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May 2013: 5 in the thread and the little one said, roll over - there's lots more on the way!

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Rhienne Fri 19-Apr-13 20:47:01

Running out of space over here so a new thread for all our fabulous birth stories!

Rhienne Fri 19-Apr-13 20:52:43

and a few more PG moans...

Stats thread here if anyone's looking for it.

TerracottaPie Fri 19-Apr-13 21:01:30

Love the new thread title rhienne grin

Marking my place

Boodstress Fri 19-Apr-13 21:30:49

Love the title ! Westie that is the most amazing story. I have lots of questions but mostly were you not completely traumatised by the speed of it all? Were you quick last time? Did you have a sense he was on the way the preceding few days? I hope you are snuggled up with him now. How lovely x

berri Fri 19-Apr-13 22:15:43

Our lovely little girl Estelle arrived today! 5lb 9oz. We are both doing very well! 38+1.

Will post more tomorrow, time for a snooze smile

PregnantPain Fri 19-Apr-13 22:23:22

Here's hoping this is the last thread before I have my little bundle!

Got an appointment at the hospital on Wednesday, to discuss the plan for birth as I am going for another vaginal birth, despite a third degree tear last time (hence needing to make a defined plan for birth). I have said I would like an episiotomy this time, and midwife mentioned a c-section might be likely, well I am terrified of that option and want to avoid that result (more because of the recovery being more difficult and I already have a toddler and I want to breastfeed, and hear that it's even more difficult after section - correct me if I am wrong. I failed with DD don't want to fail again)

Obviously if baby is in danger and c-section is required for that reason then by all means I won't make a fuss. If it is merely a cosmetic reason (i.e another tear) I would rather have another tear, or can it be worse? I suppose it will all be discussed on Wednesday.

In other news, I have a doula coming to visit me tommorow to discuss hiring her as I am eligible for the access fund they have, and this lady has supported women in the past who have used the access fund, so she is happy to help me if I go ahead, I still haven't got a clue what I should be asking her, she asked me on the phone if I had any questions and I drew a blank! blush I want support on an active labour if it will be possible and breastfeeding advice and support after. I really want to make it work this time and EBF.

I'm going to shut up now grin

rachywhite83 Fri 19-Apr-13 22:25:44

I'm so excited by all these babies being born !

PregnantPain Fri 19-Apr-13 22:25:55

Oh wow another little bundle! Congrats Berri that is a beautiful name, I want my little one all the more now! Am a week behind you (37+1)

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 19-Apr-13 22:27:13

Thanks for the new thread rhienne, and for linking to the stats. It's nice not having to be the organised one!

Huge congratulations to you berri, glad to hear you're both doing ok.

I'm so surprised I can't remember what I was actually going to say grin

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 19-Apr-13 22:31:23

Hi 5 babies already! Thanks rhienne for starting new thread,

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 19-Apr-13 22:35:54

Sorry 6 now, congrats berri!

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 19-Apr-13 22:36:26

Make that 6 babies! grin

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 19-Apr-13 22:36:51


Boodstress Fri 19-Apr-13 22:53:38

pregnant I totally understand you trying to avoid the section. I've had two and another planned. It's not how I would have planned it. The recovery can be tough but equally I know people with 3rd degree tears that had a much more difficult time. You are pretty intact down there following a section. I've breast fed twice following a section and its no problem (first time takes some adjustment of course) you may just need help positioning baby - if you're sitting you sort of rugby ball hold and if you're lying the baby lies along side you. You'll be pretty shattered so the latter is preferable and really lovely (& healing emotionally I thought).

Rhienne Fri 19-Apr-13 23:01:41

Congratulations Berri! Welcome Estelle.

Congratulations Berri x

goldmaple Sat 20-Apr-13 05:52:00

Congrats Westie and berri ! Lovely names! I love to hear birth storiessmile

Nothing to report except I am now more pregnant than I've ever been 38+2 and regretting refusing a sweep at my weds appt.

Good luck to whoever is next!!

DizziDoll Sat 20-Apr-13 08:56:09

Congratulations Berri. I love the name. Great birth story Westie.

On the topic of birth stories, I remember the seperate thread we had for March '10. It was great as people felt they could post any detail without scaring anyone off on the ante-natal thread. Though I must admit I would love a labour like Westie, though preferably not in the street.


SeaSalt1 Sat 20-Apr-13 09:11:10

Congratulations Westie and Berri! Wonderful news, so excited for you. I love the names you have chosen too. Please post some pics on FB so we can admire them!

Thingiebob, I saw your last post on the old thread - may be worth re-posting here so more people can comment. How are you doing now? Are the pains/contractions any closer together? If you're worried do get yourself checked out (for what it's worth I think I probably would in your situation). Please let us know how you are, I'm thinking of you.

I had a growth scan last Monday (at 33+6, I'm so far behind the rest of you!) and our little man is already nearly 6lb, which is slightly concerning me. At the point I had the scan I still had 6 weeks left to go, and a bit of googling tells me he is likely to grow at 1/2 a pound a week, which would mean I'm heading for a 9 pounder (bigger if he arrives late). I'm not too surprised, DH is 6'4", I weighed nearly 9lb at birth and my brother weighed nearly 10lb so the numbers make sense, they are just terrifying! Anyone else on for a bigg'n? Any advice?

Hooray for all the new babies! I love this thread (AND the sun is shining today!)


babygeek Sat 20-Apr-13 09:16:36

So exciting all these babies popping out. Big Congrats westie and berri!
I would love to hear everyone's birth stories, it's like a much more personalised OBEM, please share.

Yay for Elly getting to take your LO home and hopefully for you Maybe this weekend. I hope everything is going well for 10 and MooLL too.

Feeling a bit twingey here but still plenty of time to go I suspect. Every time I make a "owww" sound, I see a look of terror flicker across DPs face, it's pretty funny smile

Beaut, I hope the move is all complete now and you can start to relax. Hope everyone else is nice and settled for the next few weeks.


TerracottaPie Sat 20-Apr-13 10:45:25

Congratulations Berri!

Another here who loves hearing birth stories so whichever we do it I don't mind.

With the lastest arrivals it's really making me think I should get on and pack my hospital bag! Oh and maybe write the birth plan. Motivation is lacking somewhat!

Seasalt I'm heading for a whopper most likely. DS was last time so I think because I know I can do it I'm not worried about it too much. Positioning of the baby is so much more important IMO than size. DS was back to back and that led to some problems during my labour with him but he flipped round at the last minute and pushing him out was the easy bit. So don't worry! Plus big babies are extra squidgey grin


Berri Congratulations she is gorgeous and another lovely name.

Babygeek Yes all moved now just got to find a home for eveything and help DP put up some furniture.

Anyone else running out of things to wear? As its warm here today I went to buy a maxi dress as have mostly winter maternity clothes. I about cried in the fitting room at the size of my bump, thighs and backside sad

Bunnychan Sat 20-Apr-13 16:35:11

beaut yes I am- even out of my maternity clothes; half of them don't fit comfortably anymore.

I was just asked by a checkout lady how much longer I have left and I just stared at her for a while wondering what she meant before I realised. As if, with all the aches and pains and the size of my belly, I could forget I was pregnant lol x

WestieMamma Sat 20-Apr-13 16:38:31

Congratulations Berri flowers

Boodstress, yes I was completely traumatised by the speed of it and the terror of being home alone thinking nobody would get here in time. By the time we reached the hospital my whole body was shaking and I still can't believe it's really happened.

There were no prior warning signs. Boom and off it went shock.

With my first it was about 4 hours from when I thought I was in labour to delivery, although afterwards I think it was more like 16 hours.

I think it might be in the genes though. I was my mum's second and apparently I popped out after just 15 minutes.

Bunny I give people a glare if they ask me how much longer. I stupidly get into my head 'how dare you ask I might just be overweight'. Don't know why I think this must be the pregnancy rage.

WestieMamma Sat 20-Apr-13 16:42:13

SeaSalt1, I'm not in the Facebook group as I couldn't find the details in the previous threads. How do I join it?

shelly81 Sat 20-Apr-13 16:43:31

Another one here gettin a wopper hehe ...... Can't believe we have 6 babas already omg congratulations to all & good luck to whoevers next ..... 36 today :-) xx

Westie I think I would be scared being alone so glad the ambulance at least made it to your home. Did you feel much pain or was it all so quick. I'm so interested as I had a 35 hour labour with ds1 and a 46 hour labour with ds2. So a speedy delivery is completely alien to me.

TigerSwallowtail Sat 20-Apr-13 20:21:36

Congratulations berri grin thanks

I had been checking TIO and thought everyone had been very quiet today, I've only just noticed the thread was full blush

Thingiebob Sat 20-Apr-13 20:57:30

Hello all. Thank you for the concern re: my prev post. I have seen the midwife only to told I am in 'pre-labour' so I have been out enjoying the sun today and trying to put irregular pains out of my mind!

Bunnychan Sat 20-Apr-13 23:58:36

Eww.. I feel really sickly- I hope I'm not getting that nasty bug that's going round :-s x

TigerSwallowtail Sun 21-Apr-13 11:21:02

How are you feeling today bunny?

Have you had any more pains thingie?

Thingiebob Sun 21-Apr-13 11:40:28

Yes had mild contractions from midnight through to 4am but despite being six mins or so apart they didn't intensify. They were more painful than previous nights - think nasty period cramps and kept me awake. I tried to sleep and hold off waking up DH to take me to hospital as I wasn't convinced it was necessary and I was right as I was able to sleep and it has all stopped now!

It seems to happen at night-time. The midwife says it is 'latent labour' and judging contractions/pain levels is not an exact science hence babies being born at home and in cars etc. Made me feel more anxious!

As a rule of thumb she told me the pains need to become a regular pattern over at least two hours and they need to intensify and become noticeably stronger. She also said it is harder to judge in second/third babies.

Have to say I had never really heard of latent/prelabour before.

Hope you are not poorly Bunny!

lollypopsicle Sun 21-Apr-13 12:00:32

Oooh thingie sounds like it won't be long for you.

I have a question for those on their 3rd+. Did you find you had more 'signs of labour' in the last few weeks than the first time? I didn't feel anywhere near labour last time until it came quite suddenly with 3 min contractions straight away at 41 weeks. This time, over the past week, I have felt BH getting stronger, more frequent and more painful (though nothing as painful as an actual contraction and in no way regular). I've been getting a backache that comes and goes too. Last time my contractions started in my back and it's a similar feeling but not as intense or with a pattern.

So I guess in asking, did you feel more niggles second time around and did it mean labour was earlier than last time? [wishful thinking emoticon]

Perhaps I'm just more aware of the feeling of labour this time and random twinges mean absolutely nothing.


shelly81 Sun 21-Apr-13 13:49:28

Anyone else just realised there absolutely sh**ting themselves about labour this time round xx

Thingiebob Sun 21-Apr-13 14:09:28

I am shitting myself tbh. I was induced last time so have never gone into labour spontaneously. I ended up having a cs as well so this vbac is giving me the heebie jeebies. I can't imagine giving birth.

TigerSwallowtail Sun 21-Apr-13 14:48:30

That's rotten that they stopped thingie. I'd never heard of it either though the baby book I got from the midwife had a section about false alarms where you start labour and then it stops so that could have been referring to the same thing I suppose, although I hadn't realised it could go on for so long. Did the midwife say it was a sign that real labour could be close?

Yes shelly I'm getting quite worried. I had an epidural at 5cm with DS but the only pain relief i'd had up until then was paracetamol and I was on my own too with no support until the epidural. I don't want one this time but am worried that gas and air or the birthing pool won't be enough and I won't be able to take it.

I'm starting to get worried Shelly, should feel better after my next Drs appointment. Haven't seen him for 7 weeks.

Bunnychan Sun 21-Apr-13 15:57:47

Thanks ladies- I had diahrrea this morning but no sickness in the end. Touch wood, haven't had any since but feel rough. I'm torn about whether to go to work tomorrow.

I'm still in denial about giving birth x

Lolly I'm on my 3rd. I don't know I'd its because in more aware but I'm really feeling lots of twinges this time which I don't recall feeling with first two ds. I have had some pains today and back ache. I think it may just be braxton hicks but they were something I never had with first two and have only experienced this time.

Shelly Yes I'm dreading labour. I want to try a water birth but I am comforted by the fact that if it isn't pain relief enough I can have an epidural. I do not want forceps or ventouse under any circumstances so that's something that's worrying me

TigerSwallowTail Sun 21-Apr-13 18:16:30

beaut my midwife said that if you've not needed forceps or ventouse before then it's really unlikely that you'll need them again.

Tiger I had forceps with ds1 after pushing for near two hours. I have a small pelvis and his shoulders were wedged. He was only teeny but his poor face when he came out . I was given a really bad stitch job and had to go back in a week later to have it corrected. I was in more pain after labour than during sad

Beaut I had a ventouse delivery with DS - because I my OB wanted to get home early on a Saturday evening angry. I spoke to my (new) OB about it and he said that you're less likely to need the ventouse in subsequent labours.
I don't want another one. DS ingested a lot of what they referred to as 'fluide' and lost his suck reflex, add that the a recessed chin and tongue tie and we never managed to BF successfully. I really do not want that again.

Ah, X-post with Tiger who's been told the total opposite! Is there another area of medicine where the advice/ guidance is so inconsistent?

Mamma I am shocked re your ob wanting to get home early that's absolutely awful shock. I have written on birth plan that I do not give consent to forceps or ventouse. Unfortunately the alternative would be for baby to be pushed up a bit in order to carry out a caesarean.I still feel that would be preferable to me and baby. I would go into more reasons for not wanting assisted delivery but they are only formed of my own opinion and I don't want to scare any first timers. For the record I know many people who have had an assisted delivery and had absolutely no problems

I know Beaut, it's especially galling because you pay for healthcare here, he kept telling me to expire as well, which isn't what you want to hear in the final throes of labour! He meant exhale but his English wasn't as good as he thought it was!

The ventouse was not painful and I recovered very quickly from the birth, it wasn't at all traumatic. DS would have struggled to BF anyway (because of the chin and tongue tie) but I'd rather not have another one lose the suck reflex/ swallow loads of gunk and struggle to feed. I want to be out of hospital ASAP.

DXBMermaid Sun 21-Apr-13 19:02:20

Westie congrats!

I'm getting nervous about labour now, I had an easy labour last time. Just keep thinking nobody is lucky enough to have that twice. Just keep thinking to myself this is the last time I'll be doing it.

PregnantPain Sun 21-Apr-13 19:23:38

Hi everyone, I am officially going to have a doula present at the birth. Met her yesterday and she is really lovely, had a long chat about everything including previous labour and birth etc, went ahead and signed the contracts there and then, just need to remember to buy a stamp on Thursday and post off the application form for the access fund!

Dreading this appointment on Wednesday. Don't know what they want me to do really, I have been thinking over and over is this really all because of the tear last time, is it really so terrible to just leave me to everything and if a tear happens again it happens. Doula made a good point about episiotomy, if you cut into a piece of paper, it just makes it easier to rip it in half so if I'm cut for the sake of it I could tear even worse. Any ladies with experience of such a tear here? Were subsequent births trickier?

TigerSwallowTail Sun 21-Apr-13 19:35:46

mama and beaut that is awful what happened to you both. I can understand why you don't want forcepts near you. I'm writing that I don't give consent either, both me and my son are hypermobile so there's a chance this LO will be hypermobile too so an assisted birth could dislocate something for her. When I told my midwife though that's when she said I'd most likely not need them as I didn't need anything first time. She explained it by saying that my first baby made a path for this baby to go along, but surely if you've had intervention then a path would have still been made so would reduce the necessity for forceps/ventouse?

TigerSwallowTail Sun 21-Apr-13 19:36:37

pregnant what does a doula do? Are they just there as a birth partner?

Mamma Does your new ob seem much better in general then I hope so.

Painful How big a tear was it last time did you need many stitches? With my epistiotomy I had quite a few stitches so second time around I asked for epistiotomy/assisted delivery to be avoided. I had a tear with second and I asked how many stitches it would need they said about four or five. Being quite a small tear after my bad stitching with first birth I asked them to leave it and it healed beautifully. It looked ahem a lot neater down there than my first stitch job with ds1 which like I said had to be corrected.

Tiger I think the general rule is that you are more likely to need an assisted delivery with a first birth than you are with subsequent deliveries smile

PregnantPain Sun 21-Apr-13 20:06:05

sorry yeah it was a third degree, that's all they told me, no one told me how many stitches I had but I was being stitched up for about 20 odd minutes so I am guessing a few! Everything seems to have healed fine down there.

A doula is a birth partner but with a greater knowledge basis I think really. She will help me communicate with the midwives etc, keep me focused etc. Support my DP who will also be present. Look at Doula UK there is better info on there than I can explain!

Tiger, it wasn't that bad. The level of care over here is excellent. When I moved over here I was 35 weeks and didn't have a Dr sorted so didn't have much choice of Dr as they limit their case load. He was quite old school (and intriguingly had a can of Elnett hairspray on the table with all his gynae equipment. I never managed to work out what that was for). My new one is much, much better thanks Beaut.

roastpotatoes Sun 21-Apr-13 21:07:07

Hi everyone, I hope you're all doing well. I'm 38 wks now and it is all starting to feel a bit real and scary. I keep seeing people who say "you might have a baby by the next time I see you....", which totally freaks me out!

Finally have got around to packing my hospital bag. I just wondered, what food have people packed? I seem to being having a blank on what sorts of things I could pack. Any suggestions?

Last week of work coming up - feeling stressed about how much I still have to do. But I think also feeling a bit wound up about what a big change is just about to happen in my life. I've been so looking forward to it but now I just have the fear....

roast what about dries fruit, cereal bars, nuts? i remember devouring 3 cereal bars after I'd had DS. Some sugary sweets to give you a quick energy boost?

SeaSalt1 Sun 21-Apr-13 21:20:07

First timer checking out now, I understand people can and should discuss whatever they like but detailed chat about tears and stitches is more than I can take right now. Good luck and see you on the other side!

Don't check out SeaSalt!

PregnantPain Sun 21-Apr-13 21:42:06

Wow well if that's your limit you are in for a shock I am afraid!

Boodstress Sun 21-Apr-13 21:42:19

I think maybe the detailed discussion is best taken onto a separate thread. - 'likelihood of assisted delivery following a previous assisted delivery' or whatever but I can imagine it is a bit scary for first timers. seasalt if you are getting something from the updates then it would be a shame to leave. I think it's cool to ask people to tone it down. It's a fine balance.

In other news I've had a vomiting bug thing today (38&2) along with BH .. I'm shattered. I was hoping for a lovely last Sunday as a family of 4 but instead my 5yo said he thinks I've been in bed for 92 hours!!!

scooby26 Sun 21-Apr-13 21:42:27

Perhaps we need to open an 'explicit' thread or 'birth thread' or at the very least head messages that what follows is explicit..... It'd be
A real shame if first timers were scared off. I mind not one jot what I read nor did I the first time but my job makes me blasé.....

Back........ We will try to find a way of people
Sharing what they need without scaring others...

PregnantPain Sun 21-Apr-13 21:42:29

Sorry I realise that sounded a bit harsh.

Wirrawoo Sun 21-Apr-13 21:46:44

Actually if we could keep the scary stuff to a minimum that would be great at the moment. Another first-timer trying to focus on relaxing as much as possible and avoid getting stressed about it all and in the 'real' world am already finding it really stressful when people tell me negative birth stories. sorry don't want to offend anyone thanks

lollypopsicle Sun 21-Apr-13 21:51:29

Hmmm. Impending child birth is why we're all here. This is the natural and obvious place to discuss it. I think it's a shame that people feel they have to watch what they say about their worries or experiences on a thread specifically for pregnant women.
That's just my opinion.

TigerSwallowTail Sun 21-Apr-13 21:56:48

I agree with lolly and pregnant tbh, we're all either going to experience labour in the next few weeks or have just experienced it, it seems strange not to talk about it.

I've looked at the previous posts too and can't see any gory stories either, what post was it that was so bad?

Boodstress Sun 21-Apr-13 22:04:36

To be fair that's what seasalt said, it just wasn't for her. I personally was so scarred about the idea of an induction from my over zealous NCT trainer that I totally freaked when it did happen. We just want to be aware I guess .

scooby26 Sun 21-Apr-13 22:13:20

I Dont think anyone should refrain from posting anything they are concerned about or feel is relevant- I just think perhaps we have journeyed 8 mths together and it would be a shame for some first timers who need the support to be scared off...... Is it really so unreasonable
To 'head your post' with a warning or have a separate birth post? I for one would like to try and consider and include all views and just think its the easier way.... We are all different and deal with things in our way and shouldn't judge when someone feels scared

TigerSwallowTail Sun 21-Apr-13 22:23:51

I'm dubious about a seperate birth post, I don't think it would work very well as a few stories come out in flow of conversation on the thread or may be included as part of advice iyswim so a seperate thread may not work as well.

PregnantPain Sun 21-Apr-13 22:39:06

I think it was me mentioning my third degree tear, which I did not describe in any detail whatsoever.

Thingiebob Sun 21-Apr-13 23:33:45

Surely all this talk about stitches and tears is actually informative though? First time round I wanted to know everything from the gory bits down to the good bits!

As Seasalt has said - she understands that we should be able to talk about what we want, but she finds it difficult so has chosen not to read.
Posters always have the option of skipping posts.

Thingiebob Sun 21-Apr-13 23:37:25

Tigerswallowtail in answer to your question to me above, yes I think the stop/start labour is called 'false labour' and according to midwife is your body limbering up and can turn into real thing at anytime. It's not so common first time round. I don't know why.

Since talking to friends with more than one child, a lot of them have said that this happened to them, with one of them having signs and contractions for over two weeks. When active labour finally did establish, it was very short.

Things they don't tell you, eh?!

aberjen Mon 22-Apr-13 05:40:12

Morning all smile Just to weigh in on the 'details' debate, as a first-timer I quite liking reading about how varied everyone's past experiences have been, including the not so good ones - but I'm a hope for the best, prepare for the worst sort of person who's too nosy for her own good grin

roast I'm packing dried fruit, fruit and nut mixes, savoury bread stick type things, maltesers and, for post-birth treat, Lindor smile. Will probs add some fresh fruit and/or sandwiches nearer the time (assuming there's time of course...). NCT teacher had some suggestions but I've forgotten them now - will try to remember to look them up and post later. Ooh, I must remember to get a bottle of squash and also pack bendy straws!

Have also been doing cheese research every time I go to supermarket to check out use-by dates so I can stock fridge in advance and have lots of lovely verboten cheese ready for when we come home. Am becoming a bit obsessed blush]

Last 3 days of work! Although just feels like I'm preparing to go on holiday, really can't get head round prospect that I won't be going back until next year shock

aberjen Mon 22-Apr-13 08:39:33

Quick question for 2+ timers - how quickly did your normal immune system return after delivery? Am on my third cold this pregnancy and thoroughly fed up.

roast found my notes but not sure they're that helpful!
"Food/drink esp. something tempting to eat after birth. Chocolate, cheese and crackers, smoothies. During day, partner can go and get food to bring to delivery suite. Will get tea and toast after delivery. Also remember food for dad."

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 22-Apr-13 09:38:09

Hi all hope everyone is doing ok, at hospital with GTT so a bit loopy with lucozade atm, have to wait 2 hrs before I can have breakfast shock so forgive the waffle.

I don't really mind whether we have a separate thread for birth stories or discussions on TMI, I can see both sides. I have wild swings between severe apprehension and calm serenity. One thing I will say as a second timer is that whatever your birth and labour is like IT IS ALL WORTH IT! In my crazy lucozade state I want to gather up all those worrying in a big group hug and shout coach style "Eyes on the prize ladies!"

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 22-Apr-13 09:45:13

Thinking about food after the birth, cereal bars...... Yuk, anything dry was unappealing but I'd been on the gas and air so my throat was dry. I wanted pizza and chips but the canteen was closed. I was starving and tea and toast didn't cut it at all. Lindor mmmmm yes that's going on the list. Any other ideas? And yes to bendy straws, v useful.

TigerSwallowTail Mon 22-Apr-13 09:54:27

Fox's biscuits are definitely going in my bag for afterwards.

Rhienne Mon 22-Apr-13 10:19:24

My top tip for labour is one of these:

Same function as a bendy straw, but way better. I drank about 2L in the last hour of labour, and DH could just hold up this and I could suck in the water. Also great to have with you in the bed afterwards when you need to drink but rolling over or reaching for the bedside table is painful, and on the sofa next to you while BF (if you do so). They don't spill even if lying on the bed, and you don't have to tip it up or fuss about opening/closing them. Just bite and suck.

I'm packing dried fruit (apricots and prunes), soft sweets - like jubes, flapjacks and muesli bars, glucose tablets/sweets, rehydration salts and sweet drinks - in my case Vitamin Water but only cos it's sweet and not bubbly - (see above about how much water I drank during labour last time!). And some crackers and sweet biscuits probably.

Rhienne Mon 22-Apr-13 10:20:08
Wirrawoo Mon 22-Apr-13 10:26:05

Thanks tassiedevil and scooby too for your sensitive and supportive answers, really appreciated. I agree that we have been here supporting each other for 8 months and it has been a huge source of comfort and release at times. I don't want anyone to not talk about things they feel they need to talk about, but I completely agree with scooby that it is incredibly easy to structure our thread in a way that caters to everyone in a sensitive way. To be honest what has disturbed me reading the last couple of pages of this thread is the lack of sympathy and support for someone voicing that they feel scared or concerned about aspects of childbirth, whether that is reading extended discussions about episiotomies or any aspect of labour. To see such a "well if you can't take the heat...", "I dont see why you're fussing" response to Seasalt rather than sensitivity and support was sad to see. I feel that everyone who takes the move to reach out and join this birth club deserves sympathy and respect for any concerns they may have. It doesn't really matter whether others do or don't personally have a problem with some concern that is written about because they aren't the ones who have the concern in the first place. Surely the logical, sensitive and supportive move is just to put little things in place IF needed to make this thread a safe and supportive place for everyone to be a part of. No big deal, no big hassle, evyone still gets to say what they need to say and everyone continues to feel supported rather than made to feel somehow naive or overly sensitive. It can't be that we support each other in some concerns but not in others, just because they don't fit in with our own opinion about how we like to discuss childbirth. I completely agree that we are all going to be going through labour and of course we have to be abe to talk about it, but it's also good for us in a public forum to remain sensitive to all in the group and there is nothing wrong with putting little things in place for all to feel represented and comfortable. I was frankly shocked at some of the responses and that, more than anything, has been the thing that I would want to make sure we don't see here... where is the sisterhood ladies?! (need some kind of fist in the air emoticon but alas....)
Personally, I'm not naive... I know it's not going to be 2 sneezes and a bit of aromatherapy and he's out, but I do feel vulnerable and far away from supportive family and friends. This birth club has been a huge help over these months and until last night I felt we had all been nothing but supportive. I really reeeaaally don't want to offend anyone or spark a typical Mumsnet stressful to read debate getting in the way of us talking about the actual brilliant thing to remember which is that in a few weeks we will all have gorgeous new babies in our arms regardless of how they get there... Just woke up feeling stressed about what I was reading last night and feeling bad that anyone felt they needed to leave the thread let alone surrounded by such a subsequent lack of sympathy that I've now opened my big gob and typed all this. Sorry for any offence, I will now get back to posting about baby prep!

Sorry for the mammoth post. ducks head to avoid flying mumsnet wrath

(on that note, DP went shopping for hospital food supplies and we now have twix, kitkats, mini cheddars, crisps and muesli bars. Not quite as healthy as I had in mind (!) but am going to stock up on fruit and chuck some in the bag when we leave. Also was told that a good idea is to freeze a couple of sandwiches and take them out when you leave for the hospital so they are defrosted by the time you need them).

Bunnychan Mon 22-Apr-13 10:28:47

Hi ladies
Can I just say how rubbish the nhs are? I woke up in the night with a second bout of tmi..diarrhea which left me in agony- I swear it caused me to have contractions for a good 20 minutes and so I phoned nhs direct as I wasn't sure if the pain was or wasn't and felt stupid phoning the mw. After going through all the questions etc, the pain stopped and she advised me to phone the mw as I was 'at risk of preterm labour' she also said that as my baby had been more active than usual 'it was a possible sign of infection to the baby'. So at 2.30 this morning I hit full bloody panic mode!!! Phoned Mw, explained everything to her and she said no, that it didn't matter that baby is really active as babies have active and quiet days so not to worry about that. First phew. Then she said that if the pains had stopped to get some sleep and see how I feel but phone back if anymore problems or pains. Second phew. Talk about scaring the shit out of me. I finally managed to go back to sleep and although I feel achy, I'm not in pain anymore. I've never felt contractions before but god that was uncomfortable.

In regards to the birth stories. Each to their own. I'm a first timer and appreciate the good with the bad but maybe just putting a heading would mean that we could stay together on the thread.

Bunny x

Rhienne Mon 22-Apr-13 10:29:49

What I wish someone had warned me about last time
Warning - this post contains possibly way TMI. Not for the squeemish

I think I did read about these in one of my pregnancy books last time, but it still surprised me, and maybe it will be useful to the first timers to know. After birth, your body needs to deal with all the after effects. Two things I wasn't really prepared for were 1. how long I bled for, and 2. how much I sweated!

I had a VB, so can't talk for CS. As far as I understand it, when your placenta comes away, it leaves an open wound inside your womb. And that takes a while to heal. So you bleed. Lots. Obviously everyone's different and I'm sure some of the others can give alternative views, but I was in disposable string underwear with massive maternity pads for more than a week, then big period pads for longer still (I think...). And using the shower head to run water over my privates as I peed, because it stung my stitches. I hadn't expected it to last so long, it was much longer than a normal period.

The other thing that took me by surprise was the night-sweats. I woke up in my own private lake in the bed, every night, for aaages. I tried sleeping in a towel but just managed to screw it up and push it aside in my sleep. This time round when we bought DS's new toddler bed and a new mattress protector for him, I bought an extra for me too. So I've lined my mattress ready this time. It was really quite blah, and took weeks to settle down.

Not much fun, but hopefully forewarned is forearmed...

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 22-Apr-13 10:48:18

Anyone who wants an inspiring book on natural childbirth then anything by Ina May Gaskin is wonderful. It gave me a lot of confidence in the lead up to DD's birth and although the labour was in the end quite medical, it was good to feel a bit calmer and stronger about giving birth going into it.

aberjen Mon 22-Apr-13 10:58:25

wirra (and by extension Seasalt) hope my post wasn't one that came across as insensitive - I didn't mean it that way, just in a 'my preference would be' way. Completely appreciate that when you're skimming over mumsnet posts it is all too easy to read something that you'd rather have skipped, but weren't forewarned about. I know I sometimes need to be in the right headspace, otherwise it can be easy to stress and worry about stuff I've read, and it's not like you can unread it. From my perspective, I would rather everything was kept in one place, i.e. on this thread, but really like how Rhienne flagged her post just now with a warning, so at least it is easy to skip if someone's not in the right frame of mind. Does that make sense? (Am now sounding like NCT teacher, whose favourite turn of phrase is 'Do you see what I mean?' grin)

bunny, sorry you're still poorly and how rubbish of NHS direct! I guess they want to cover themselves and err on the side of following up with MW, but still! Hope you're feeling better soon

Rest of post poss TMI - re Rhienne

Had heard about the bleeding and sweating - was expecting the bleeding to go on for weeks but hadn't realised the sweating does too - shall warn DP about yet another fun pregnancy-related symptom that we can look forward to! Have already invested in charming waterproof mattress protector in case waters go in night...

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 22-Apr-13 11:03:12


I bled for a few weeks but I didn't sweat , but then I am a lady wink actually the least lady like person I know!

Seasalt Come back.I was shocked at what followed my posts last night certainly Didnt mean to scare anyone.

I do think its a good idea to share but like Seasalt not wanting to know me wanting to know things is my personal preference.

I would like to add to anyone that wants to know. Despite a long labour with my first and forceps delivery the first thing I said when he was placed on my chest was 'I want another one' and I had ds2 17 months later. So it certainly wasnt all that bad.
However, I wish I had been part of a group like this with ds1 and heard people's birth stories so that I could have been better informed again personal preference and isn't hindsight wonderful. I'm not saying I would have refused a forceps delivery or an epistiotomy. Epistiotomys are fine mine was fine it was unfortunately just stitched badly which is uncommon but it was corrected within a week. Now if I had have had certain knowledge beforehand my ds birth may have been different. For example I was labouring so slow I didn't know it could be accelerated in anyway and a midwife told me afterwards they should have tried breaking my waters( which broke on delivery) also I didn't realise my stitches shouldn't be sooo uncomfortable I thought well Ive been stitched its going to hurt. If I had of spoken out sooner my stitches and pain from them would have been managed before I left hospital but I didn't want to be the moany new mum ??

Anyway on to snacks for labour . I'm packing mixed fruit and nuts, dried apricots, Capri suns(easy to drink), water, biscuits, haribo and bananas and some cobs.

Most essential hospital bag items are water and LIPBALM. My mouth gets so dry during labour and even more so if using has and air smile

TMI post

I bled for about 5 weeks after ds1 but was very light from week 2. I used disposable pants and thick maternity pads. Will not bother with disposable pants again so uncomfy.

With ds2 I bled for a week and a bit then had a normal period four weeks after that.I used black asda pants two sizes bigger than my pre pregnancy size and thick maternity pads. The winged thinner pads are useless. I have the bought the same type of pants this time.

I don't remember the sweating thing but it was 7 and 8 years ago.

Boodstress Mon 22-Apr-13 12:07:43

Where are you Seasalt? Hope you've read all the comments calling you back. I also think the apprehension is palatable right now and tempers are fraying somewhat so that's probably worth bearing in mind. I know in an actual anti natel class I would temper my conversation to the audience and if there were first timers in there I would be sensitive.

Re food - as a C-section you are nil by mouth but after I dream of having a block of blue cheese, a plate of sushi, pâté & crackers and a small bottle of champers - in reality I will have a cold slice of toast with marmalade from a disgruntled NHS midwife with a cup of sweet tea - which I hate but will absolutely love.

Bunny I have had a similar diarr. Bug a few weeks ago and had to do a sample (not easy!!!) for the hospital. It was all fine. Yesterday I was vomiting and had nausea all day plus very crampy in my upper abdomen. I have a pre op in a couple of hours so will get them to check me over. The thing that was freaking me out was the baby went beserk for about an hour. It was doing laps in there. I got worried it was having a seizure or something. I need this baby out now... My paranoia is reaching epic proportions.

Section on Thursday :-000

Birth details
As a section veteran I bled for about 5 days each time and not very much at all. I didn't have the sweats at all but a whole host of other side effects available on request.

Boodstress Mon 22-Apr-13 12:08:29

Grrrrh - typo ' Palpable right now'

Bunnychan Mon 22-Apr-13 12:15:01

bood that was like my baby yesterday! In reality I think that the baby has changed position so I'm feeling a lot more outward movements. The midwife was not at all worried about all the extra movement x

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 22-Apr-13 12:24:56

I can understand first timers worrying when they read about scary birth stories involving stitches etc but I agree everything should stay on this thread. Just to redress the balance FWIW I had two easy non-complicated births. With DS I was in hospital being monitored for pre-eclampsia, due to be induced at 36 weeks. At 35+5 contractions started around 11am. I was given pethidine (which made me feel very spaced out) at 1pm, DS was born at 3.15pm after 20 mins pushing. With DD my waters broke in bed (definitely recommend waterproof mattress protectors!) at 6am. I was told to go in despite not having contractions as again I was pre-37 weeks and kept in for obs. Mild Contractions started at 8pm, and were quite painful by 10pm, MW checked and I was 5cm dilated. Taken to the delivery suite where I had gas and air (no time for anything else), DD arrived at 11.15. I had a very small graze caused by her speedy arrival but it was fine within a few days.

Not meaning to offend anyone but surely we can talk about the bleeding after labour? That's one thing that we all certainly will experience, and its presumably useful to have a good idea how long it lasts so you know how many maternity pads are necessary.

Had a nice weekend in London. DH done the marathon in 5.5 hours, he suffered with his feet quite badly, and has gone to work walking like a robot today grin

ng1412 Mon 22-Apr-13 12:49:16

Seven fair play to your DH going to work today, I took the day off after I did the London marathon as i could not walk anywhere!

Just back from gyne appt. Baby is head down but not engaged so the head is by my bladder and not yet near to my cervix, with its back rounded and legs sort of under my left ribs. We were relieved to hear it is not ready yet as my parents are not due here until Saturday so we would really struggle with our DD if something happened before then.

The French gyne also confirmed that I am 36+1 rather than as the Swiss say which is a week behind. I honestly can't understand the Swiss but I will not argue with my c section date as the actual date is fine with us given DD's birthday is the week before. Anyway I am comforted to know I am right haha!

DD's roseola cleared up, scary times but everything seems ok. Let us hope she doesn't catch anything else anytime soon....

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 22-Apr-13 13:16:26

Phew! Parents are back from holiday, bump you are allowed to arrive now! (They are down for babysitting DD when DS decides he is making his appearance)

seven congrats to your DH and the money he has raised!

DXBMermaid Mon 22-Apr-13 14:05:22

Possibly TMI

Found out today that I've tested positive for strep-B... Makes me feel like I have a dirty fanjo blush Dr informed me that I will be given iv-antibiotics during my labour. Hope that doesn't mean I won't be able to move around! Has anyone else had this? Do I need to worry? I started reading on google but got rather freaked out.

On a different note, I'm another first timer who finds it very useful to read about the gory stuff. I guess I like to be informed about things. I knew about the bleeding, but not about the night sweats... Thank goodness for a.c.

Have my first BH last night. Not painful but uncomfortable and strange. Suppose it means things are slowly getting started!

TerracottaPie Mon 22-Apr-13 14:23:12

Just been reading the last lots of posts. Not going to rehash everything but wanted to say Seasalt I do hope you come back to the thread and get any support you need from it.

These last few weeks can really take their toll. No matter how many babies any of us have had I think most of us will be having wobbles at the idea of labour at some point. Everyone is different in how they deal with those anxieties and no one way is the right way so I do hope we can accommodate everyone in this. Plus what Wirra said!

I'm still to do anything to be organised for this baby! I have what i need to do in my head but that's it. If I, by some miracle, have a baby that comes anything except late I'll be scrambling around trying to pack a bag aren't I? I see the consultant on Wed and think I'm waiting for that appointment and will organise everything after that. Please feel free to give me a kick up the bum if I post again after Wed and mention that I still have no hospital bag packed grin

Agree that bleeding shouldn't be a taboo topic seven. Do the books mention that lochia lasts around 1-2 weeks? With DS I was till bleeding (albeit lightly) at my 8 week post natal check. Nothing was wrong just that due to DSs size I had a large placenta, which means a greater wound on the uterus which in turns means it longer to heal. Or something like that. The other 2 DCs were around 4-6 weeks I think.

Oh yes, the sweating...I'd forgotten about it when DS came but as it's not been that long ago since his birth I've forgotten none of the post birth joys this time. (eg I'm planning on getting my super strength pile suppositories and cream prescription sorted this week!)

Any second timers not been told about after pains? They were a shock. I loved how my mum and sister went 'oh, yes they are unpleasant' when I mentioned it to them. So why didn't they bloody tell me about them before I gave birth?! Saying that though, I didn't have any with DS. Don't know if that was due to the gap between 2 and 3. Makes me wonder what they'll be like this time though!

Last thing I wanted to say was to echo what tas said during her glucose high. It is so so worth it. All of it. I'm so excited to meet this baby. So excited to see what he or she looks like. And whether it is a he or a she. Can't wait for those newborn thighs to squidge. And labour, no matter how it goes means I get to do that. I will deal with what ever comes before, during and after because I will have this beautiful baby as a result of it.

Sorry for the soppiness. Must have had a good nights sleep or something grin

TigerSwallowTail Mon 22-Apr-13 14:37:10

I'd never heard of after pains until this thread, is it stomach cramps, backache or both? And how long do they last?

TerracottaPie Mon 22-Apr-13 14:49:25

It's the uterus contracting to shrink back down from its pregnant state. So basically like contractions in labour. Which hurt. A bit.

Super fun stuff hmm grin

I remember them being especially fun when I was trying to breastfeed (which can bring on a pain in itself) and therefore didn't want to move and disrupt DD2 but it then meant I couldn't find a comfy way to deal with the pain. Not everyone gets them though I don't think.

I've just remembered something I wish someone had told me when I'd had my first. That you still look pregnant! I was so shocked by it. For some reason it didn't occur to me that my uterus wouldn't immediately be back to the size it was before it had taken 9 months to grow a baby grin

TerracottaPie Mon 22-Apr-13 14:52:38

Oh and I cannot remember at all how long they last! Not that long I don't think. A week maybe? Hopefully someone else can remember that better than me. They do become less frequent and less strong though.

Also TMI I was pissing like a racehorse after I had DS. All that water you retain in the last couple of weeks is either sweated or piddled out.

I understand that people are nervous about delivery and I hope none of my comments have worried anyone. Honestly, I had an easy labour, I slept through most of it then woke up needing to push, he was out in 25 minutes. Was much, much easier than I thought it would be and the second that baby is placed on your chest you forget it all. If it were that bad I wouldn't be doing again (and dropping subtle hints about wanting a third to DH).

Terra I didn't have any after pains, nor did I notice my milk coming in.

TerracottaPie Mon 22-Apr-13 16:13:12

Mamma you don't tend to get the after pains with your first. Usually come with the second one and then apparently get stronger with each subsequent baby. Haven't got a clue why that is though thinking about it.

You mean you didn't get the enormous rock hard boobs when your milk came in?! I would love that grin

TerracottaPie Mon 22-Apr-13 16:18:39

Just realised as well that I made it sound like you have constant contraction-like pains for about a week if you're on DC2+. It's one contraction-like pain every so often that become less often as the first few days go by.

And not everyone gets them but just so they don't take anyone else by surprise (like me) I thought I'd mention them smile

CluelessNewbie1 Mon 22-Apr-13 16:34:50

I have cankles sad .. they are only going to get worse aren't they?

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 22-Apr-13 16:40:59

terracotta I'd forgotten about the squidgy thighs, oh the thighs! I was focusing on the chubby cheeks grin can't wait to kiss them!!

I didn't have any after pains, or rock hard boobs with milk coming in. Maybe with DC2 this time?

But yes to still looking pg after the birth, I looked at a woman on the post natal ward and thought "well she must have had the baby if she's here hmm" and then looked at my own tummy and thought shock mine's the same! And it stayed the same for quite a while! But after going to a lovely post natal physio group, my tummy went back quite quickly.

I'm really looking forward to post natal yoga/Pushy Mums buggy exercise/post natal physio groups, I'm looking forward to a bit of exercise. Wish I liked swimming, I'd go now, but all I can think is beached whale doing the doggy paddle, and being overtaken by old ladies in the slow lane - it's not appealing.

Terra, I had pretty enormous boobs before, they didn't go rock hard and didn't notice.

Also looking forward to having energy and being able to walk for longer than 15 minutes before waddling.

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 22-Apr-13 18:00:48

Crikey I was in agony with milk coming in, but I was expressing not BFing which probably makes a big difference. After pains I had second time round but not first as is usual like terra said. I took paracetamol for the first 2-3 days but they were manageable after that.

The bleeding only lasted a couple of weeks with DS and was really heavy for the entire first week. With DD the really heavy bleeding only lasted a couple of days but it was 6 weeks before the very light bleeding stopped completely. I had the injection to speed up delivery of the placenta with DD but not DS as they forgot to give it to me, not sure if that's what made the difference.

I was expressing too Seven, just didn't feel any different.

Starting to assemble my hospital stuff now. I still have most things from DS but treated myself to a new camera and a big can of Evian water mist.

Can't believe I'm asking this but is anyone doing perineal massage? Has anyone done this before? Did it help? Can you manage it on your own, I don't think I could bear to ask DH for help with that.

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 22-Apr-13 18:55:45

I have been contemplating perineal massage, I think I did give it a go last time. Not sure if it helped. The midwife said I should have listened when she said "PANT!", I thought she said push! I think listening to the midwife would have been more use!

Zorra Mon 22-Apr-13 20:01:02

I did perineal massage with DS and (like so, so many other things!) keep meaning t get round to it this time. I did it by myself once a day for the last six weeks or so, with mama balm from Neals Yard. I have no idea if it made a difference, super easy birth with a tiny graze but not sure if that was luck or preparation! I do think it made the feeling of the baby crowning less weird, but not sure it actually changed anything...

DXBMermaid Mon 22-Apr-13 20:02:48

I thought about it, but am finding my arms are too short. I bought an epi-no. Am hoping that it will do the trick. Need to start soon. Will report back.

Boodstress Mon 22-Apr-13 20:33:52

I did perineal massage first time round but only got to 4cm so that was a waste of legs in the air time. I had my pre ops today and turned into quite an event. Firstly I found out I could be sterilised after delivery, I never want anymore children and we have been talking about a vasectomy so sounds like a good idea, if not a bit daunting.i signed the forms but can change my mind at any point.
Secondly when I mentioned I was sick yesterday with upper tummy cramps she sent me to triage who proceeded to monitor baby for an hour. Noticed I was having v noticeable tightenings. They got the doc who said I appeared to be slightly dilated & decided to do a full vaginal - she said it was ok but if the contractions got more regular or more severe to Cw straight back. So I finally got home at 6pm after a 2pm appointment 15mins away. I was v freaked out as I hadn't organised anything for the boys and as it was I was rushing home for childminders etc, to top it all off - DH has decided he has my bug from yesterday & is 'dying'.

On a separate note, I was v sore the couple of days after milk comes in , I have small boobs normally but always have tons of milk. Cold cabbage leaves from fridge is the only thing that helped.. Seriously. That and hand expressing a bit before starting a feed.

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 22-Apr-13 20:40:37

Blimey bood hope you're ok and not worrying too much. When is your CS booked for?

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 22-Apr-13 21:05:34

What on earth is an epi no? mermaid pls enlighten me, sounds scary!

Boodstress Mon 22-Apr-13 21:09:51

Thanks Seven worrying about my husband who is not looking like someone who could spring into action anytime soon. My section
Is Thursday so hopefully we can stick to that plan.

DXBMermaid Mon 22-Apr-13 21:46:21

Epi-no is sort of like a balloon which you insert and can then pump up. There are exercises to train your pelvic floor muscles, to stetch your perineum.


Just tried it for the first time and have say it seems quite effective. Will be interesting to monitor progress.

goldmaple Tue 23-Apr-13 01:51:10

I can definitely understand why first timers are reluctant to hear about the less pleasant aspects of the birth. I was the same way.
Here are some positive thoughts: whatever happens you will be fine. Just have faith in yourself and know that women have been doing this for thousands of years and they did it without the teams of educated professionals and access to pain meds!! You will be fine and that squishy little baby is more than worth it!
Not trying to preach but those thoughts helped mesmile

I did the perianal massage a few times last time and only had a small tear (stitches were optional) and very few after pains. I had no idea that after pains were worse with the second birth!! I'm glad to be prepared. What helped other than medication? I'd rather not take anything.

I only bled for a week or so. I was given a squirt bottle that I filled with warm water to cleanse after going to the washroom (didn't have to use any paper). I definitely recommend this!! Also I made 'Popsicle pads' last time. You basically put water on a maxi pad and freeze it. Then it can go right in the in your underpants like an ice pack! Freeze it in a shallow bowl so it is u shapedsmile Very nice in the first few days!

If anyone has any other tips I'd love to here them.

mwncigirl Tue 23-Apr-13 06:18:37

Hi everyone, haven't posted for a very long time, but still here.
Wanted to say how important this thread is, especially now, approaching the birth of our amazing babies. It's understandable that we all have our different thoughts and needs re birth support. I think it's easier for those who have experienced birth before to forget what it's like to be a newbie mum and 'too much info' is such a personal thing, we all have different levels of tolerance.
Anyway, I can't work out what food I might like. It was yoghurt last time, but I remember not drinking or eating enough and don't think that helped really.
Also after pains were really painful for me and carried on whilst breast feeding. Hope they're better this time.
Nearly there ladies!!

Goldmaple I put witchazel on my mat pads and in my squirty bottle. I found it very soothing.

Should add that it was diluted not neat *witch hazel.

aberjen Tue 23-Apr-13 07:36:01

mamma how dilute does the witch hazel need to be when you use on pads (and when you add to the water bottle for that matter)? I read a book that just said to sprinkle a bit on the pads, was all set to buy some and then saw on the bottle it said not to use on broken skin! confused

Thanks for all the tips, ladies, much appreciated!

Boodstress Tue 23-Apr-13 07:37:56

popsicle pads genius genius! grin

DizziDoll Tue 23-Apr-13 08:02:09

Also don't forget to pack some comfy breastfeeding sleeping bras, especially if you are staying in hospiral a few days. I couldn't go without the support once my milk came in.

I have the mother of all colds, including a horrible cough and a sore throat. ELCS is booked for next Monday. I am worries that they will delay it if I am still sick hmm

TigerSwallowTail Tue 23-Apr-13 08:12:46

Tmi: it hurt a lot for a few days afterwards when I had to pee, although I had a catheter put in during labour which may have caused all the pain afterwards. What I found helpful was bringing a cup to the bathroom and filling it with warm water then pouring it over me while I pee. If anyone has any other tips I'd be glad to hear them, I thought this was the worst part of post-labour and dreaded everytime I had to go to the toilet.

lollypopsicle Tue 23-Apr-13 09:45:20

I found putting my hands in the floor while I pee'd on the loo helped direct the flow and avoid stinging.

Possible TMI
My dsis was in so much pain the first time that the mw suggested running a shallow bath to pee in to. It helped her a lot and was the only thing that helped ease the pain.

Beautiful sunny day here today smile
Only 4 more days of work after today. Woo hoo!

TerracottaPie Tue 23-Apr-13 10:49:44

I used the warm water at the same time as passing urine trick with my first (episiotomy), managed without for the 2. Definitely recommend it though. Also making sure drink a lot as it will dilute your urine and make it a bit less stingy.

So the toddler has just gone for his nap and I've broken out the tub of Ben and Jerry's chocolate fudge brownie. Not too early for ice cream is it? grin

38 weeks today!

TigerSwallowTail Tue 23-Apr-13 10:55:53

terra I had a craving for ice cream last night, I ended up eating a whole tub of Haagen daz to myself shock, I've never done that before but couldn't stop making my way through it. Break out the ben&jerrys, it's never to early for ice cream.

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 23-Apr-13 11:18:50

Definitely drink plenty to help stop your wee stinging as much. I also found leaning forwards really helped. It only stings for the first couple of days if you haven't had stitches, but the first one is worst. My tip is putting a few drops of lavender oil in the bath to help with healing. Another non-pain related tip is buy a travel mug if you don't already have one. Once baby arrives you'll soon get fed up of pouring cold tea down the sink because you didnt get time to drink it!

terra I highly recommend Green & Blacks chocolate ice cream!

Any tightenings today bood?

I've just ordered the Moses basket mattress from John Lewis, plus a new changing mat for the changing unit in her bedroom. The almost identical mattress in mothercare is half the price but its been out of stock for ages, I daren't leave it any longer! I'm now 8/9 days away from when I had the other two, eek! Not sure what to do with myself if I go to full-term, I suspect I'll be very fed up of waiting!


Aberjen I just added a few drops to the water and the pads. Did it by smell rather than measurement.

YY to an insulated mug! Also make sure you've got some food in that you can eat one handed and isn't too disgusting if it goes cold. I found cake, biscuits and waffles to be the best for this smile.

scooby26 Tue 23-Apr-13 16:39:48

DXBMermaid- I had group b strep last time- discovered after having tons BH having fallen down the stairs. Know how you feel re dirty but 25% have it.....I'm really glad
I knew risk is grossly greater if you have it and don't know co
Compared to Antibiotics! The antibiotics were no
Problem at all- the only issue I had is that my waters breaking was the first sign of labour- in group b strep cases my hospital insist on induction straight away rather than waiting and it was the induction/syntocin that was limiting.

I've insisted on being tested this time- first was done wrong, second negative which I was unconvinced about so paid privately for third which was again negative. I have to accepy it but it does worry
Me its being missed- I'd rather just have the antibiotics!

DXBMermaid Tue 23-Apr-13 18:00:25

Thanks Scooby
Glad to know I'm not the only one. I completely freaked myself out by reading about all the horrible things that can happen to a newborn if they catch it. Thankfully have also read that the chance of a baby actually becoming infected isn't that high.

Loving all the tips regarding stinging wees! Love the maxi pad ice lollies! Fantastic idea! At ante-natal class the midwife recommend making diaper ice lollies to go round sore boobs. Aparently they are the right fit and shape. Just hope my friends don't go rooting in the freezer for the vodka lol.

babygeek Tue 23-Apr-13 18:08:44

I am only 36+6 but totally symptom watching! I am a bit obsessed I think, maybe cause I am a first timer. Only 5 more days at work and really looking forward to finishing up but at least work is distracting me from wondering if every ache or twinge is labour starting! Argh!

I have a 37 week scan tomorrow for home birth. Have now definitely decided we will be going to the birthing unit in Stockport but midwife was super keen on homebirth so I kind of went along with it. Bonus scan to check out baby anyway grin

Looking forward to meeting all these may babies! We still haven't decided on a name but have a short list and were going to decide on the day once we meet LO. Is this a wise strategy though? What if DP and I still disagree? We like:


With Grace as a middle name.

aberjen Tue 23-Apr-13 18:09:11

Thanks mamma! And also for tip re: food - am always happy to have a good excuse to eat cake grin

Boodstress Tue 23-Apr-13 18:40:35

seven mild tightenings all day but not building to anything so hopefully all stays calm til Thursday. I can't quite get my head around how certain it all is. Thank god I kept the sex a surprise.

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 23-Apr-13 18:51:29

Ha! I was going to suggest the popsical pads! A friend recommended them last time. The relief was amazing. If they are really frozen-you might want to add a pair of pants on top as well as underneath. So it doesn't stick to your bits iyswim.

Wonder if bood is otherwise engaged...? Exciting times ladies!

Has anyone set up a postnatal group yet? I hadn't even considered it until just now. I guess I'm more likely to fit into March.
Alice had a bad day yesterday. She hadn't breastfed for days and slept 24 hours solid. She was diagnosed with retinopathy of prematurity. It's where the blood vessels on the retina grow abnormally and in the worse rare cases can cause blindness. Bizarrely, I have te same condition due to my diabetes so I helpfully know too many details. If it gets worse (next check next week) she'll need laser surgery on her retinas which will require a general. As you can imagine I was a blubbering wreck yesterday.
But today has been fantastic! She has been awake loads and fed lots. She was on the breast for 50 mins and really going for it. Her anaemia has corrected itself which will help with her very slow weight gain and more importantly with the eyes. Feeling much better.
First timers-you have no idea what a worry these little bundles are. You can't help it. You'll worry about everything. From feeding to colour of poo. It's really overwhelming.
Like the travel mug idea! A woman at the hospital hada breastfeeding apron/cover. It looked so useful, I've got to invest. Also hides your bare mummy tummy as well as boobs whilst feeding.

Bunnychan Tue 23-Apr-13 19:12:17

Hi ladies,
How did you cope when it feels like your belly is going to fall off? Mine is killing me from feeling like its being pulled down! And- anyone else's baby movements make their foo-foo feel uncomfortable? I actually feel like I need to hold myself when baby gets a squirm on!

Also, thank you for the good advice for post labour coping strategies! Making a note of these for the future!

tasmaniandevilchaser Tue 23-Apr-13 19:35:49

Popsicle pads and nappies on sore boobs, brilliant! Wouldn't have needed it last time but good to know.

shelly81 Tue 23-Apr-13 19:47:53

Ladies does anyone know if there is any deep heat at all that you can use ...... Think I've got a trapped nerve under my shoulder had it since friday & in agony xxx

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 23-Apr-13 20:24:29

maybe don't go anywhere, we're glad to have you. I can imagine you must have been worried sick yesterday, glad she's had a good day today though. Any sign of her coming home soon? On my last group with DD we all stayed on the ante-natal thread until the last baby had arrived, then moved over to the post-natal section.

shelly no idea sorry, hope it improves soon. Only thing I can suggest is try stretches and doing big arm circles if its not too agonising to try and free it?

babygeek sounds like a good enough plan for a name as long as its only a small list, you have 6 weeks to register the name anyway so doesn't matter if you can't decide immediately. They're all lovely names, I wanted Elizabeth but decided against it as her initials would be EAR, we've already decided on Ann as a middle name after my mum.

I actually found warm things helped on sore boobs more than cold, a warm flannel was good, but when it was really painful the only thing that helped was a really hot shower.

TigerSwallowTail Tue 23-Apr-13 20:34:06

Shelly you can use Olbas oil during pregnancy, it can be used as a decongestant but also for muscle pain if you rub it on your skin.

I'm another that has to hold my bump when she squirms down low, and her movements have been hurting me quite a bit too.

We're going with the name Willow Sophia, we've kept her name a secret though from friends and family until she's here. What do you all think of it? I don't want to say her surname on here but it will be the same as little Seb and his mummy smile, does it sound ok?

shelly81 Tue 23-Apr-13 20:46:50

Thank you Tiger ill try anything at the minute xxx

scooby26 Tue 23-Apr-13 20:54:08

Tiger- that's three of us with the same surname ;-)
I like your name choice... We will be sticking with 'middle of the road/non unusual' such as Oliver/Sam/Jessica et al. My husband doesn't do anything more unusual! Wanted bailey as middle name for DS but initials would have been BBQ- DH complained he would be called 'sausage' as nickname but I don't think it matters- boys will have nicknames wotever happens and I've heard MUcH worse ;-)

Baby geek- we also have about 4 names per sex with probable favourites by will wait and see what he/she looks like.... We ended up using second choice boys name last time as he simply didn't look like the top name IyKWIM ;-))

Maybe- sorry you're both having a tough time- hope things keep picking up and you're home with snuggles soon.

Re Popsicles- mothercare sell a specific freezer gel item that does same thing and works a treat if u feel you need it- I did last time - which I won't go into- but fab!

roastpotatoes Tue 23-Apr-13 21:03:05

I'm reassured to hear that other people are suffering from painful bumps too! Some of the movements have changed from being a bit uncomfortable to downright painful recently and I wasn't sure if that was normal! I think everything is getting rather squashed in there...

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 23-Apr-13 21:21:12

Yes to painful movements. I'm pretty certain there's an elbow that keeps which keeps poking out on my lower left side, its really quite painful! Never had any painful movements like this with the other two.

Love the name tiger.

Rhienne Tue 23-Apr-13 21:31:47

Lately, it's been a major achievement to tie my own shoelaces. Today, at 38+3, I managed to cut my toe-nails and epilate my legs. I feel like I deserve a medal!

Now with the money I saved by not paying someone at a salon to do it, I'm off to buy DVD boxsets on Amazon. grin

Rhienne Tue 23-Apr-13 21:33:46

I keep gasping as LO tries to stretch. This baby is getting quite strong! DH looks concerned every time.

And yes, when LO scratches his/her nose, or whatever it is they're doing way down low, it is decidedly uncomfortable!

Rhienne Tue 23-Apr-13 21:38:19

Does anyone have any recommendations for good washable breastpads? I tried a couple of reusables last time, but found they were leaky, uncomfortable and showed horribly through my clothes, so went with disposables. I can imagine using washables, if I can find ones that work.

lollypopsicle Tue 23-Apr-13 22:00:15

rhienne you def deserve a medal. DH had to tie my laces yesterday and he cut my toenails tonight. I can't get a hold of my feet for long enough! I'm 35+5 now so don't have a hope in hell by 38 wks!

babygeek Wed 24-Apr-13 07:46:06

Great to learn lots of tips from ladies who have been there before. Not sure what DP will think if he opens the freezer and sees a bunch of maternity pad popsicles though haha!

Maybe, that is really positive news that Alice is feeding well and she is having some quality contact time with you. Hopefully she will just keep getter stronger by the day.

Some lovely names there, it feels like quite a big responsibility naming the baby smile

This LO loves to stretch out arms into my lower left side which is really uncomfortable. Seriously saw her push my belly out about 4-5cm the other morning with an elbow or something. They are bony squirmy wee things. But it's good to know that they are active in there.

Rhienne, I aspire to your personal grooming achievements! I can still shave my legs but at a very awkward angle so it's infrequent. Putting on tights is becoming very challenging, luckily only a few more days of that.

Just seen all the advice on weeing after the birth. I can honestly say both times I had no pain on urinating after at all. However, during labour and following I guzzle loads of water so maybe its due to my urine being really diluted.

My feet and legs(cankles) have now started to swell each evening sad

I just had a midwife appointment and baby is still head down which he has been for weeks but not engaged. I'm really surprised as have had lots of pains. She said second and third babies often engage and come out again and so on for a while.Next appt is booked for when I'm 38+ 6. I was cconvinced he would come early now I'm not so sure

Forgot to add 36+6

Picking names is really difficult, we only had a boys name. I have changed my mind twice now. Really wanted Amelie but kept hearing it loads so had to pick again.

Beaut I think I'm giving myself a week late coz dd was 11 days but dh thinks this one will be early.

I'm getting so uncomfortable now and today I have no energy at all to do anything. I'm really struggling to sleep at night and not getting chance to nap in the day thanks to a very jolly toddler.

I have family coming for the weekend so I can get some rest which I'm really looking forward to.

The end is nearly here, how exciting.


ng1412 Wed 24-Apr-13 16:34:11

Oh InNeedof you sound exactly the same as me, it is tough with a very active toddler isn't it? My parents arrive in two days and I cannot wait to start having afternoon naps while they chase her round the house!

Or 3 weeks today until C section

It is such hard work, we live in Somerset and our families are up north and Portsmouth so I will be making the most of it. I don't know how people ever have more than 2 kids they must be exhausted all the time. It's good you will get plenty of rest before baby comes.

I'm so happy peppa pig is on the telly all the time just so she will sit down for 5 minutes.

DXBMermaid Wed 24-Apr-13 19:18:20

Had a friend take some pregnancy pics of me today and I can see that I am exhausted in most of them. She's coming for lunch on Saturday so hopefully I'll be a little less tired and won't look like I haven't had any sleep in weeks.

Also feet swelled up like a bullfrog again today. Seems that as soon as I overdo it, out come the cankles. Went for a nice long pre-dinner nap with my feet up on two extra pillows and that seems to have helped.

I really don't want my baby to come early, especially as DH is away on business from 4-8 May, but physically I am ready to trade in my morningsickness, spd and canckles for a sore fanjo and leaking boobs although I may regret saying this hmm

Rhienne Wed 24-Apr-13 20:56:31

38+4 and today I have (mostly) packed my hospital bag. Now if someone can just sort out the corner of our room where the cot is supposed to go, I think we might be almost ready for this baby to arrive. Not that my "list-of-things-to-do-before-the-baby-arrives" is empty, but most of the "it-would-be-very-inconvenient-to-not-have-done-this-when-baby-arrives" things are now completed.

Rhienne Wed 24-Apr-13 20:59:13

I know what you mean Mermaid. I keep thinking - I would reallylike to stop being pregnant now. But then I think - do I reallywant to step into new-parent-havent-slept-for-days mode just yet???

rachywhite83 Wed 24-Apr-13 21:43:11

well at 37+5 I have just bought my first bottle of gaviscon. Im surprised that this is the first heartburn I have had.

Good luck with your section today Bood, hope all goes well and wish you a speedy recovery. Another one arriving before May has even begun.

Wirrawoo Thu 25-Apr-13 09:42:45

Ooh yes wishing you all the best bood smile.

TigerSwallowTail Thu 25-Apr-13 09:45:28

It must be a great name then scooby wink. I love Jessica, it was on my shortlist, it's such a lovely name. I also love Samuel, will Sam be short for that?

Sophie is my favourite of your names geek, a really pretty name smile

That's interesting beaut, last time I wasn't allowed to drink anything during labour (I don't actually know why this is) and my first pee was agony, after that I was too scared to drink too much water so I didn't have to go to the toilet too much. I'll take your advice this time though and drink lots.

My feet and legs feel like they're swelling a bit too dbx, I can only fit into those slip on ballerina type shoes which aren't very practical in all the rain we're having at the moment!

Good luck today bood soon you'll be having lovely newborn cuddles! At this rate we'll have more babies born outside of May than we will have May babies!

I hope everyone else is ok, not long now thankfully!

I've got good news and bad news; good news is the physio finally got in touch and I've an appointment today, I'm 36+1 today though so am not sure there's any point, better late than never though. The bad news, DS decided to paint his bedroom wall and put a lovely handprint pattern all over it. It's wallpapered too so I can't wash it off.

I had a bit of a panic last night, I had horrible backache, nothing was helping it and then I started worrying that if I couldn't take some backache then how on earth was I going to manage labour. I was confident about it before but now I'm getting quite worried that I won't be able to handle the pain, I had an epidural at 5cm last time, even though it kept wearing off it definitely took the majority of the pain away but now I don't think I'll be able to do it this time without an epidural.

Boodstress Thu 25-Apr-13 09:46:58

Waiting to go down. Very calm but think I'm paddling like crazy under the surface. Such a strange time, this bit before. Better not be too late... I'm so hungry. Bit nervous but all will be well xx

Tiger, don't worry about being able to handle the pain. Ask your physio about techniques to manage the pain - mine had some interesting suggestions which seemed to involve throttling DH. I may have missed something in translation though smile.

There's nothing wrong with having an epidural, they're bloody marvelous.

tasmaniandevilchaser Thu 25-Apr-13 10:46:17

Bood, v excited for you, keep us posted when it's convenient.

Tiger, I hear you loud and clear about coping in labour but you just do, don't you. And we're both doing it again so it can't have been so awful. All worth it anyway! So many people have said their 2nd was a lot quicker.

I'm so shattered, I am a foul and grumpy mum sat in front of cbeebies on a beautiful sunny day. I'm just not sleeping, any tips? I was walking a lot mon/tues and I felt great but I'm too tired now. DD is a little angel , not even hard work but I 've got no patience sad

tasmaniandevilchaser Thu 25-Apr-13 10:49:39

And a good book about labour is by juju sundin, it's about focusing in labour but it's much more active than hypnobirthing, which suits me. It's quite blunt about talking about pain, which I do sometimes find unsettling but part of me thinks it's good to be realistic. Though everyone's labour is so different.

tasmaniandevilchaser Thu 25-Apr-13 10:51:26

And epidurals, yes marvellous, I may have proposed to my anaesthetist, which DH thought was hilarious!

lollypopsicle Thu 25-Apr-13 10:51:45

Best of luck bood
Tiger I had similar thoughts about coping with the pain. You will deal with it because you have to. If for you, part of dealing with it means an epidural then so be it. And remember it will end grin

aberjen Thu 25-Apr-13 11:00:02

Good luck bood!

First day of mat leave here (hurrah!) and I'm spending it...finishing off the work/handover notes etc that I didn't manage to get done yesterday. Oops. But nearly there!

TerracottaPie Thu 25-Apr-13 12:13:44

Can't believe Thursday has come around so quick...good luck Bood! Hopefully you've gone down already or will be very soon smile

Tiger I was wondering about your physio referral the other day and whether you'd had an appointment yet. Can't believe it's took that long for you. Hopefully they'll be able to at least help with some exercises that can alleviate the pain a little for you.

I remember having the same worries about coping with pain in labour for DC2. I had an epidural (that didn't work properly) and ended up with forceps delivery in theatre for DC1 and wondered how would I cope the next time. DC2 was a planned homebirth with gas and air and it was amazing. So much quicker than DC1 and I felt so much more in control of everything. It was all so calm compared to the first time.

Think what I'm trying to say is that while we know every labour is different it's easy to let our own individual experiences convince ourselves that that's how it will be on another occasion. It's hard to think positively when you're anxious about what's to come though! For the most part I try and tell myself that I've done it before and I can do it again. And will do it again. Soon grin

Good luck today Bood

Well I just had my driving test and failed. Although it was a great fail. I went through a red light sad Ao disappointed as when ill get time for another test is beyond me

TerracottaPie Thu 25-Apr-13 12:25:10

Oh no Beaut sad

Try not to let it get you down too much. I think you were very brave trying to do it now. And there will be opportunities to get it done. Eventually. Just maybe not before the baby comes. I know it would have made it easier to do before though. Don't give up will you? (I failed my first try spectacularly too)

rachywhite83 Thu 25-Apr-13 12:34:18

ah beaut I'm sorry. I have given up till baby comes along. Trying to pack a house is enough at the moment and DH isn't very helpful at the moment. He keeps saying we will do it later but later is getting nearer and nearer.

Thanks ladies to be honest I would have been shocked to pass first time. I'm kind of glad I failed on a big thing than little mistakes. I'm going to chill now and wait for baby to arrive.

Hopefully ill do it next time. Now that I know what to expect. I need to get driving sharpish though as I'm so restricted being in a village smile

TerracottaPie Thu 25-Apr-13 13:33:04

I'm waiting for the MW to ring. Hopefully she will soon. Can I offload here in the meantime?

Had my consultant appt yesterday. Majority of the appt was spent getting told off for declining the GTT at 28w. Got sick of explaining myself really. Ended up painstakingly giving my reasons and then having to say that I hadn't decided lightly in order for them (junior dr and consultant) to give it a rest. The decision was made 10 weeks ago fgs.

The only reason it was offered was because of the size of DS. Who i didnt have GD with and who was big because he was big and has never dropped from his birth centiles. So then the Consultant had a feel of my belly, decreed that this one isn't big (which is fine by me but all my measurements are showing that it's likely to be on the bigger side) and that was that. To me thus proving my point that I didn't need the GTT I thought.

Trouble with this appt is that I was looking around the hospital and didn't feel comfortable there. Now having massive wobble that ive picked the wrong hospital and that I want to change to the one I had DS at. Even though some of the things I didn't like about that hospital were what led me to choosing the current one.

On top of that if this is a normal size baby (like x-ray vision dr seems to think) then I want my homebirth option back.

Feel so confused and anxious about all this now when I was just trying keep relaxed and go with the flow.

Also, and I think it is a blip rather than anything else, my BP (taken before seeing the drs!) was way higher than my usual readings. Not in the realms of high blood pressure that much but for me it was a big, big jump. No-one batted an eyelid at it. I'm not sure if they even looked at previous readings in my notes. Everything else was fine though.

Oh and my MW is off next week so I'm not due to see her until 40w now so although the hospital dipped urine, did BP, measured belly and had a feel for position of baby, the heart beat wasn't listened to. So I'm worrying about that not happening (and there being a 4 week gap between checks), my BP being a bit raised and not knowing where the hell I want to give birth sad

Sorry to go on a bit. It's helped to get it all out though.

Terra If they weren't concerned by blood pressure then I wouldn't be either. Mine was a lot lower than usual yesterday but my midwife said nothing. With the tests I wouldn't worry about that either. However, I can understand if you want to be seen for reassurance. If so just call your main maternity unit and asked for an extra midwife appointment to be slotted in. If you tell them your concerns they should be fine and just fit you in with another midwife.

What is it you don't like about hospital? My midwife asked me yesterday if I wanted a home birth at my 36 week appt so its not too late to ask. Just tell them when you call the hospital. Remember after all its your body your decision and you have a right to request whatever you feel is best for you and baby. Most midwifes these days will see that your wishes are met.

37+0 eeeekkkk

Just realised your waiting for midwife to call. Like I said just say you would like an extra appt and that you would like a home birth or to change hospital. Just keep in mind its your decision not hers and an appt shouldn't be missed anyway just because shes away someone else should do it.

TerracottaPie Thu 25-Apr-13 14:13:10

I'm not worrying too much about the BP Beaut as I do think it was a blip - there was an aggressive bloke in the waiting room next to me swearing a lot about how long they'd been waiting, calling people twats nder his breath if anyone dared to turn around and look at him - more bothered that no one noticed it was a lot higher than usual. It's more I think about not having the baby's heartbeat checked from between 36-40w. You're right though, I should just ask to have it done when I do have someone ring me back.

The homebirth thing I don't want if baby is big again (I had a bit of a PPH with DS and it's more likely with a big baby) but if it's an average size baby like the dr seems to think then I do want a homebirth. It's the not having any clarity anymore that upsetting me.

The hospital issue I can't quite explain. It's not to do with the appointment yesterday as such - I've had crappy dr appts before and it's not bothered me - it was more a feeling. I just didn't feel comfortable there. And the idea of delivering the baby there makes me feel anxious. I really don't know why. I feel like I'd be happier at the other hospital and things like patient hotels don't make up for that feeling. But everyone who i speak to mother and birth partners have all had great experiences there. I don't want to be worrying about shite like this. I just feel silly sad

You shouldn't feel silly at all. Gosh we all on here know how daunting labour is at the best of times. You need to feel comfortable as you don't need any extra worry as you will need all your energy for the task at hand.

Have they not offered you a scan to get a more accurate estimate of babies weight? Again something I would ask midwife. If you want a home birth and discuss your issues for being dubious due to size of baby then they should accommodate that and offer to check the size accurately. You are in control.

I'm loving our new neighbours went in for a coffee and chat yesterday and she told me her baby was 11lb 12oz at birth and his size was never picked up. Wow medal for her. She had an easy straight forward birth with no stitches or anything. smile

babygeek Thu 25-Apr-13 14:46:28

Thinking of you Bood, all the best and looking forward to more cute baby pics very shortly smile

Beaut, sorry to hear about your test. They are pretty stressful and maybe it will actually be easier next time as the pressure is off? brew

Terracotta, if you are going for a home birth then perhaps you can ask to have another ultrasound so they can check baby's position? Might have a better idea of size then as well to ease your mind.

I am a fan of the name Jessica as well, DP not so much hmm

Working from home today as i had a MW appt earlier but struggling to focus, argh.

I'm not trying to say you will have a big baby by the way just that if they have concerns due to your last baby then they should be checking it out properly this time not just saying I don't think baby will be big. Everyone thinks mines going to be huge(friends and family) but midwife and private scan both predict 7 lb 7oz. We will see. Ds1 was predicted at 4lb 7oz max. The midwife was very concerned but he was 6lb 6oz at birth 39+6

I loved my girls name list. Ill not get to use any now but mine were ;


rachywhite83 Thu 25-Apr-13 15:45:16

We have chosen Florence or Florrie for short with May as a 2nd name x

Rachy Thats lovely. It was top of our list that and Elodie. We definitely won't be having anymore though and I'm hoping that all the scans have been right as everything I have is blue smile

Boodstress Thu 25-Apr-13 16:35:00

Alice Jennifer arrived at 11.38 am weighing 7lb4.5 oz. I can't believe it's a girl after 2 boys. She's dreamy & super chilled. Latched on but v sleepy, managed to get a little into her. I'm v sore but stocking up on painkillers by every means possible. Can't believe it & so v happy. X

ng1412 Thu 25-Apr-13 16:38:02

Wonderful news bood! And such a beautiful name. Your family is complete. X

shelli135 Thu 25-Apr-13 16:46:14

Hi everyone I'm new to MN due 22nd may grin

lollypopsicle Thu 25-Apr-13 16:47:02

Yay bood. Welcome Alice!

rachywhite83 Thu 25-Apr-13 16:56:21

Ah congratulations Bood. Alice is my sisters name. Enjoy snuggles x

berri Thu 25-Apr-13 17:00:59

Huge congratulations Bood!! thanks

aberjen Thu 25-Apr-13 17:18:46

Yay, congrats bood! smile

Hi shelli <waves> almost the same as me - I'm due 23rd (four weeks today shock)

Huge congratulations Bood. What a lovely surprise a girl. I bet your boys can't wait to meet their new sister. Get some rest thanks

Welcome Shelli.Is this your first baby? How are you feeling so far smile

wrigglerchick Thu 25-Apr-13 18:17:35

Congratulations bood! Hope you can get some rest and enjoy cuddles!

ng1412 Thu 25-Apr-13 18:45:01

I wish my c section would hurry up! Spent day with my active toddler DD who decided she wasn't going to sleep or rest so I have been playing with her non stop for 8 hours. Major tantrums at lunch which lasted 3 hours.

I am so tired. I just tried to snatch five mins in the sun as she was having dinner with her daddy but she wanted to come out so I had to come back in.

Wowzers roll on hospital stay so I can have a rest!

scooby26 Thu 25-Apr-13 18:45:29

Bood- congratulations! Glad all well !

Beaut- soz re test- it was a lot to take on... Can you get a cancellation?

Terracotta- know how you feel- I have been wholly unconvinced re hospital after issues last time. We have a new midwife unit opened since last time which I have been to see and now I'm deemed not to have strep I can go there... I visited as week and feel a b happier. Yo have to be happy... Is not too ate to change hospital- but decide ASAP In case is early! The possible baby size is just a guess even with a scan.. If its a worry for you bear n mind most babies are bigger than their sibling.....take that into consideration...

36w tomorrow...

ng1412 Thu 25-Apr-13 18:45:33

Sorry welcome shelli!

CluelessNewbie1 Thu 25-Apr-13 19:24:20

Congratulations Bood

Bunnychan Thu 25-Apr-13 19:55:07

Congrats Bood- looked at the fb pic and she is gorgeous!
Terra- I know how you feel about the hospital- I went on the tour yesterday and I've not been feeling too nervous about the birth but now I'm frightened of how clinical the hospital seems! I've never been in overnight before and now I'm scared!
Hi Shelli
Beaut- There were some lovely and usual names there!

Can't believe I've still got more weeks to get through at work! I'm starting to get fat each night now :-(

Bunnychan Thu 25-Apr-13 19:55:35

Sorry- unusual names!

DXBMermaid Thu 25-Apr-13 20:08:31

Congratulations Bood! Lovely name and it will be lots of fun buying lots of lovely dresses for Alice. Hope you will be pain free soon!

Welcome Shelli, I'm also due on the 22nd. Less then 4 weeks to go! Eek!

Beaut, sorry to hear about your test. Hopefully next time you'll pass with flying colours.

Terra, I also wouldn't like to not be checked during the last four weeks. I am finding it very reassuring to see the Dr every week at this point. Well done by the way for sticking up for yourself with regards to GTT.

Every time I have my BP meassured it starts off at 140/90 then within minutes it goes down to 125/75 and then drops again to 120/70. No idea why, maybe I'm just really nervous every time ?

I should not have put the comment about not having had any BH yet as they've pretty much been coming and going all day long. Moved to my back as well which was quite painful, but now I'm in bed after a warm shower and they've gone again...

Bunny when are you giving up work ? How many weeks are you? I couldn't have continued at work now I'm just too tired. Yes I like unusual names. I hate to have anything that I regularly hear screeched across the school playground. I have changed a bit as got older and like some of the more classic names now but they just wouldn't go with the two boys names. smile

Well done Bood' she's absolutely gorgeous.

Sorry about the driving test Beaut, they say all the best drivers pass second time round anyway.

NG DS has been a bit mental today. Are toddlers solar powered?

ng1412 Thu 25-Apr-13 21:23:44

Mamma let's hope so as it is due to rain here all day tomorrow and next week.


cuppateaandagingersnap Thu 25-Apr-13 21:23:56

Congratulations bood and welcome Alice - fab name smile

Sorry about your driving test beaut I also failed my first test with a major - I managed to cut up a bus - don't think my weak 'I didn't see him' went down well as an excuse blush

Welcome shelli smile

Terra sometimes you just have to go with your instincts, you need to have confidence in wherever you are.

Bunnychan Thu 25-Apr-13 21:39:37

Beaut I'm exactly 36 weeks-when I finish (May 10th hopefully) I will be 38 +1. Luckily, we have a teach-first trainee who need experience of KS1 so I will be sharing the workload with him next week and then he's taking over the following week so I can write (copy & paste) reports.
Don't worry about the driving test- all the best drivers pass second time ;-)

Think I've found another new bloody mole on my neck Boo!

TerracottaPie Thu 25-Apr-13 21:45:11

Congratulations Bood!! She is scrumptious grin

Thanks all for the support smile don't worry Beaut I know you weren't saying it would be a big baby! Well, I finally spoke to the midwife. I've changed hospitals (well the paperwork has been sent off). I really don't know what it was about the first place. I'm very comfortable in hospitals and with medical and clinical settings (I'm a nurse) but something just didn't feel right about it. There was nothing wrong with any of it but maybe it was just not right for me. I do feel easier about my decision. Hope it was the right one. Only problem now is if I go into labour over the next few days before everything gets processed! Unlikely though. MW says I'll probably get an appt to see consultant and a scan due to being a new patient.

MW advised she didn't feel homebirth would be the safest option for me and whilst I know I could still go for it I'm inclined to agree. I still think it's a big baby (although I'm more than happy to be proved wrong!) and I wouldn't want to be in the position of having a repeat of last time when my BP dropped post birth and being 20+ miles from any hospital.

scooby you made me chuckle with saying about most babies are bigger than their siblings. So far that's been right. Only problem is the last one was 11lb so I'd rather not have too much bigger grin

Welcome shelli smile

Rhienne Thu 25-Apr-13 21:49:00

Congratulations Bood! Alice is beautiful. smiley

Wirrawoo Fri 26-Apr-13 07:48:52

Hi shelli!
Congrats again bood now that today is your 'day after' it must all be sinking in. Hope you are recovering well. So exciting to think we are all meeting our babies now smile she looks so gorgeous.

beaut elodie is our top girls name too!! Considering how unusual it is that is quite a coincidence! Top names were Elodie, Willow, Oona, Lexie. I have always loved the name Elidh too but it is one of DP's ex's so obviously ex names are out!!! Scans say we are having a boy but we thought we'd keep our girls names out there just in case. We have sort of 3 boys names up there at the mo and are going to meet him and hopefully one will seem more right than the others. Am sort of wishing I had more names on our list just in case but am sure we'll be fine smile Don't worry about the driving test btw, I failed first time too and so did almost all of my friends!

We just got our wedding date/venue confirmed yesterday so can send out save the dates now. It's actually happening, yippee! grin

TigerSwallowTail Fri 26-Apr-13 09:49:54

bood she is gorgeous, congratulations.


I had an eventful night last night. I'd been having stomach cramps for the past few days, then last night I felt like I was having lots of pressure then it felt like my waters were treakling out a bit, when I went to the toilet there was a small amount of blood too. I phoned the hospital who told me to go up, they recorded baby's movements for about an hour and any signs of contractions for me (she was fine) and then done a speculum. They said it didn't look like my membranes had been ruptured or any waters had broken so they sent me home. By then the stomach cramps had miraculously stopped anyway.

I've now just had what I think could be my show, could this be related to the speculum exam I had? I'm not having any other labour signs.

I'm 36+2 but I've been going by the dates I was given at my first hospital scan which matches up with my own dates I had worked out, but as I changed hospitals at the beginning of my pregnancy they worked my dates out to be exactly a week behind so my notes say I'm only 35+2.

Tiger It may just be your body preparing itself for labour and doesn't necessarily mean labour is imminent. I would imagine after a speculum you may have a bit of blood. A show is quite different TMI alert its usually jelly like mine were both long streaks of jelly literally like a plug with blood in them. I went into labour quite soon after my shows however, sometimes it can take a couple of weeks. Hope that helps smile

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 26-Apr-13 10:27:12

Not been on for a couple of days, congratulations to bood.

I'm feeling awful. I was violently sick during the night and then again when I got up this morning. I'm also cold and absolutely exhausted. DH is convinced I'll go into labour this weekend, I'm less than a week away from when I had the DCs.

Will go back and catch up on the thread.

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 26-Apr-13 11:04:07

tiger the show is likely due to the speculum, I had one after a sweep with DS.

wirra great news about the wedding venue.

beaut sorry to hear about the driving test, like you said though its probably better to fail for one big thing than lots of little ones.

Whoever was worrying about the pain of labour, you will be fine, and you will cope because you have to and know there's a very good reason for it. I have the lowest pain tolerance level of anyone I know, I had pethidine with DS which lowered the pain to a tolerable level and it was great, I even slept between contractions. I wanted it with DD and very nearly swore at the MW who said there wasn't enough time. I ended up just having gas and air, I admit the pain was pretty awful but I managed, and it want enough to stop me doing it again!

Meant to say I had a scan and saw the consultant yesterday. Everything is going well, measuring spot on which I'm relieved about as last time they said she was measuring small. Current weight prediction is 5lbs and she's head down now too smile.

TigerSwallowTail Fri 26-Apr-13 11:26:02

Thanks beaut and seven, (*tmi again sorry*), last night it was just a bit of blood but this morning when I woke up I had what you described beaut, like bloody, green and clear jelly. I've not had anything else since though. I didn't have a show with my first pregnancy, my waters just started trickling out then a few hours later my contractions started so I'm not too sure what to look out for. seven did your labour start soon after?

Tiger Sounds like a show to me. Your waters don't always go. Mine didnt for either of my two. They went during the pushing stage. After my shows I had period type pains starting a few hours later. If you're concerned at all call your midwife.

Ds2 is having his early birthday party tomorrow after that I'm ready. Can you believe I'm already impatient and I have 3 weeks left. Goodness knows what ill be like if I go overdue.

Artichook Fri 26-Apr-13 11:36:53

Congrats Bood. Sorry about confusing the Alice's on FB.

Sorry you are feeling rubbish Seven. Do you think it's a bug or pregnancy related.

Beaut/Wirra - Elodie is lovely. We nearly called DD2 Eloise.

Has everyone seen the news about delayed cord clamping being much better got the baby? It's really got me thinking and I'm going to ask for a delay even though I did have a big billed after DD1. See this article here.


Artichook Fri 26-Apr-13 11:37:44

Bleed not billed! Sorry for typo-tastic post.

Seven yes sorry you are feeling rubbish. Is that how labour has started before for you? I know a lot of people that have been sick beforehand. Time to put your feet up I think.

Arti It goes so well with my two ds names. I'd love to see someone on here choose that name. Can't believe in a few weeks I will have 3 gorgeous boys. I'm happy with the name we have chosen for ds3 just hope it suits him now

lollypopsicle Fri 26-Apr-13 12:29:39

Tiger fwiw, in my last pg I had a show but didn't go in to labour for another 2 weeks ( and that was after a sweep at 41 wks)

I love the name Elodie too but DP does not. hmm

sorry about your test beaut t took me 3 goes to pass grin

lollypopsicle Fri 26-Apr-13 12:32:09

Oh and seven first thing I thought when you said about sickness was labour. Rest up.


TigerSwallowTail Fri 26-Apr-13 12:42:30

I've called my midwife just incase, nobody was in though they must all be on their lunch so I left a voicemail. The funny thing is we are getting new carpets throughout the whole house today (and in her tiny bedroom, woo!) then DS is going to his grandparents until Sunday afternoon and so I joked with dp that she can come any time after today as we'd be ready then. grin I wonder if she heard me and agreed!

ng1412 Fri 26-Apr-13 12:56:18

Oooh everyone is having stuff happen, am I the only one who isn't? Feels like it!!

All very exciting though. Wonder who wil be next?

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 26-Apr-13 13:05:23

tiger contractions started a couple of hours after show for me, though MW said I was already 3cm dilated so I guess early labour had already started without me realising. I can't compare it to DD as my first sign of labour was my waters breaking.

Thanks for the well wishes. No idea if its just a bug or not, everyone else is fine though.

Rhienne Fri 26-Apr-13 13:31:52

one for those of you moving house rather late in the process:



Thank you to you all for making me feel better about driving test. I'm just frustrated that I have to wait so long for the next one.

I've no signs of labour either. Despite not stopping with unpacking, cleaning, walking etc. I think he's happy in there.

Thank you to you all for making me feel better about driving test. I'm just frustrated that I have to wait so long for the next one.

I've no signs of labour either. Despite not stopping with unpacking, cleaning, walking etc. I think he's happy in there.

TigerSwallowTail Fri 26-Apr-13 16:14:37

I eventually got hold of a midwife, she doesn't think it's my show and that it's just because if the speculum, she booked me in for a scan on Monday to check everything too just to make sure. I've no more stomach cramps or anything either, I guess she isn't going to make an appearance this weekend, I'll just enjoy the rest of the weekend with my feet up then as soon as DS goes off to his grans.

beaut I'm impressed that you managed to go through with your test ontop of moving house and making a baby grin

ThePurpleGirl Fri 26-Apr-13 16:54:46

Hello everyone, I'm a bit late to the thread... I was literally about to post my intro message just over a month ago to say hello, but the excitement of posting on here must have proved too much as I went into premature labour! My EDD was 9th May, but I gave birth to my little girl Jessica Rose on 23rd March, almost seven weeks early! shock

I hope it's okay to still join in on the May thread despite my March arrival, as I was following everyone's stories on here for a few months while plucking up the courage to post, so feel more at home here than the March thread.

Sorry it's taken so long to post, but we've only just made it home from hospital - we had to wait until Jessica was off all the monitors, and was gaining weight without any top ups through a nasal gastric tube, and then just as we were getting there I was hit with a severe case of mastitis and had to be on IV antibiotics for a week! All is well with both of us now.

Here's my birth story:

Lounging around with the laptop reading mumsnet in bed on a Saturday morning, my waters just suddenly broke at 11am (yes I know I'm lazy and should have been up by then!). By the time we packed a bag and got to hospital an hour later I was having contractions three minutes apart. I still didn't really think it was happening, so didn't think to ask for any pain relief. They gave me some gas and air, but by the time I asked if maybe I could have something more, the midwife had a look and said it was too late as I was 10cm dilated and she could see the head! Jessica was then born at 14:33, so just over three and a half hours from start to finish!

Congratulations to the others who have already met their little ones, and good luck to all of you still waiting! grin

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 26-Apr-13 17:06:12

tiger glad you've had some reassurance, rest up over the weekend just in case!

Hi purple and congratulations. Feel free to add yourself and Jessica onto our stats thread, there's a link on the first page of this thread. I was only 3 hours with DD, good job you got there on time if your contractions were 3 mins apart when you arrived!

I'm still having stomach cramps but no more sickness thank goodness. I'm exhausted though and daren't eat much which probably isn't helping.

lollypopsicle Fri 26-Apr-13 17:06:42

just read that article arti. I was discussing delayed clamping with MW yesterday as it's what I want as part of my birth plan. I had it last time when I had DS in a birthing unit but didn't realise it was unusual, they just did it. I've learnt more about it through forums on here tbh. can't understand why they wouldn't delay it if birth was routine and the baby and mother are well.

TigerSwallowTail Fri 26-Apr-13 17:12:14

I have my feet up as we speak (or type) seven. I hope you feel better soon.

Welcome to the thread purple, and congratulations on the birth of your daughter smile.

How long is the cord left intact with delayed cord cutting?

scooby26 Fri 26-Apr-13 18:40:17

Tiger- with DS I remember having extra clear/milky discharge a week or two before he was born then sometime in the week before he arrived I had two large bloody tinged jelly discharges that I presumed were a 'show' then at 5am the day my waters broke I got up for the loo and had the 'show' was very similar but MUCH larger... So maybe it is yours just coming away in smaller bits. So within a week or so maybe....?!

I'm hoping for obvious signs again ... My waters broke and gushed non stop for hours.. I presumed it would be a one time thing but aparantly it's common for it to just keep coming....at least it left me in no doubt!

babygeek Fri 26-Apr-13 18:59:13

Welcome purple and congrats. That is great that you have your LO at home now and can give her lots of cuddles.

I wonder who is going to be next grin, so exciting! No symptoms here, just lots of big punches and kicks from bubs.

Just been organising my labouring playlist, it's ended up being quite eclectic. I have some Aretha, stones roses, carpenters, black eyed peas...deluded first timer maybe? Plan is to distract myself with some good tunes I can sing along to smile

Only 2 more work days left, yay!


TigerSwallowTail Fri 26-Apr-13 19:06:21

We're just about to pop off to the shops and pick up some little hats, extra wipes and some baby milk so we're prepared for anything. What's the bet now though that after all the commotion she's late and I've still got another 6 weeks to wait.

goldmaple Fri 26-Apr-13 23:41:36

Painful tightenings have started and they are getting worse (over last 3 hours)! I think this is it!! Wish me lucksmile

Sparklyboots Sat 27-Apr-13 00:06:18

Hi all, fell off the MN thread but have been keeping up to date on the FB group... just got to the end of the thread and gold seems to be heading for the finish line, good luck!

I'm really looking forward to sharing birth stories, should we have a special birth story thread? I found telling my birth story really important and special last time, even though it was pretty uneventful as far as birthing goes. But it was important to repeat it somehow?

Interesting to try and remember the post-birth peeing etc. I honestly can barely remember how long it took to recover in that sense. I had a second degree tear, and recall having discussions with a friend re post-birth baths (with salt) or something but can't remember dealing with - or having to deal with peeing specifically? I did worry about pooing - sorry ladies - but only because the idea of pushing was horrifying. My strategy was to eat prunes every morning and I honestly can't remember a bad experience. I do remember struggling with stairs in the week after, because of the stitches but it wasn't awful; I just had to go slowly.

DS is only 2.4 so I don't think it's the haze of time; it's more like the haze of what was going on at the time - much more visceral and memorable are DS, those moments when his eyes opened and he looked at me; holding him; nearly snatching him off well-wishers when he cried in their arms; his smell; his movement which were so self determined and strong, I couldn't quite believe it. And his poo, which smelt of roses, well, no worse than the soil they are planted in, for the whole time he was ebf. Also panicking about mad details like the number of minutes he fed/ when he went to sleep etc. - stuff which seemed like the beginning and end of the whole world at the time but which just passed so, so quickly.

Can't wait to meet my DD! Except as I'm still doing paperwork it might be nice to go my full 40 weeks so I at least get a week off before chaos ensues!


TigerSwallowTail Sat 27-Apr-13 00:23:18

Welcome back sparkly. I enjoy reading all the birth stories too smile.

Good luck gold, how exciting!

SevenReasonsToSmile Sat 27-Apr-13 09:07:31

Good luck gold, can't wait for some news!

Artichook Sat 27-Apr-13 09:09:41

Oooooh exiting Gold! How is it going?

I'm so going to be the last pregnant lady standing. I fell weeks away from delivery.

babygeek Sat 27-Apr-13 09:15:12

Good luck gold! Looking forward to the update.

Sparkly, some really lovely words there about your experience with your DS. I really can't wait to meet this little person growing inside me now! smile

Bunnychan Sat 27-Apr-13 10:25:51

Don't worry arti we'll be there together. In fact, I'm terrified of being early- I still have two weeks at work! X

SevenReasonsToSmile Sat 27-Apr-13 11:06:57

I didnt realise we'd had another arrival <makes mental note to check fb group more often>. We're now up to 2 boys and 6 girls. Wonder who'll have the first May baby?!

DXBMermaid Sat 27-Apr-13 14:09:54

Bunny and Arti, I'm also joining you in the late May baby slot!

Enjoying a rare rainy day out here in the desert. Currently lying with my feet up on the couch, waiting for the cankles to go down before heading out to Ikea.

rachywhite83 Sat 27-Apr-13 15:38:01

I'm exhausted today and feeling really sorry for myself. I'm fed up of being surrounded by boxes. I just want to move NOW. We can move in on the 9th baby due on 12th but I have been told I won't go that far. Its all fun fun fun in the White House ! ( Sorry for the moan girls. Just needed to vent some frustration !)

Ahh I'm sure it will all come together Rachy I'm still surrounded by mess and boxes in the new house and I just kind of give up at the moment as I want to put my feet up. I moved into a house on 19th Dec when I had ds1 and he arrived on 24th Dec was in hospital all day 23rd. As long as you have your hospital bag to hand and all babies essentials close to hand you will be fine. Try not to let it get you down there isn't anything you can do about it so just have a nice bath and put those feet up and enjoy your last few weeks of being able to read a book, watch a DVD, go cinema etc smile

Had ds2 birthday party today. It went really well. Just about to settle down with a Chinese and Britains Got Talent. I'm not seeing the mess of the house anymore I just want to chill out and eat rubbish for the last time before I start healthy eating once baby is here wink

DizziDoll Sun 28-Apr-13 05:20:42

Warning: self-pitying post! I am scheduled for an ELCS on Monday and was planning a nice relaxing last weekend with DH and the dc. Instead I have the most painful piles and can't sleep. The glamour of pregnancy!, I am going to try and freeze a purposefully shaped water-logged nappy. <sigh>

Welcome to the new babies and late joiners! Who is going to join me for a delivery date of 29th of April?

goldmaple Sun 28-Apr-13 07:07:23

Pleased to announce that baby Oliver arrived early Saturday morning weighing 7 lbs 14oz. We are both doing wellsmile will update with birth story later!

Good luck to whoever is nextsmile

lollypopsicle Sun 28-Apr-13 07:25:39

Congratulations gold. Thought you'd have news for us today. Hope you are both doing well. thanks

Piles are definitley a design flaw!! Keep your eye on the prize Diz. Those piles will soon be worth it. Good luck with the section.

Wow! I'm so jealous of all these babies being born! I have birth envy. Think I'll be some way down the end of the line though. DS was born 41+1. Would be nice if this 1 came on time, at least, but we'll see.

Bought a birth pool yesterday for my home birth but need to buy a hose to fill it- which is clearly playing on my mind as It's all I dreamt about last night!

Enjoy your Sunday ladies, whether that's with your feet up or with a snugly bundle to attend to smile


aberjen Sun 28-Apr-13 07:33:02

Congratulations gold!

ng1412 Sun 28-Apr-13 07:40:43

Congratulations gold!

tasmaniandevilchaser Sun 28-Apr-13 07:42:56

Lovely news gold! Congrats

Can't believe how many babies have arrived already! I am SO ready for this baby to arrive, I feel like a hippo. I started getting stretch marks at this point with DD, if only this baby would come now!!!


TerracottaPie Sun 28-Apr-13 08:31:15

Congratulations gold! Was hoping we'd hear from you soon after your last post. Can't wait for the birth story. Enjoy your snuggles with Oliver smile

babygeek Sun 28-Apr-13 08:33:15

Ooo, lovely news gold. Enjoy your cuddly bundle smile

Congratulations Gold.

So jealous all the babies are arriving hope I'm not to long now, I hate waiting. On the plus side I finally packed my hospital bag and finished the nursery. Just need our baby girl now.

Hope everyone has a nice, relaxing Sunday


DizziDoll Sun 28-Apr-13 09:10:02

Congratulations gold! Oliver is a fab name. Enjoy the snuggles.

Congratulations Gold.

wrigglerchick Sun 28-Apr-13 09:28:04

Congratulations gold!

Congratulations Gold. What was your original due date. Love his name. Hope you are enjoying lot of newborn snuggles. Not jealous at all grin

Dizzi I keep suffering on and off with piles. Super quick cure for mine though is bran flakes and applying ahem sudocrem. Takes a day and then they disappear. Make sure you are drinking plenty as well as that can make them worse. So glam but worth it all in the end.


beaver33 Sun 28-Apr-13 11:09:57

Aw, another lovely bundle to add to our happy thread - welcome to the world, Oliver, and congrats gold. They're coming thick and fast now!

Another one here who feels far away from delivery (37+6). Feeling relatively good, considering. I get tired if I'm out for any length of time (although trying to stay active by walking every day) and have horrid cankles, but apart from that all is ok. My aim for today is to clear some garden pots and pay a visit to a curtain shop to sort out the living room window so we no longer live in a goldfish bowl and my neighbours are saved from the sight of me lying on the sofa at night, bump out, scratching like an animal possessed... (anyone else REALLY goddamn itchy???).

Rachy can totally sympathise on the house front although am v impressed at you moving days before due date. Although we moved a few weeks ago, the boxes and dust and general sense of unfinishedness has been getting me down (a clear nesting sign). But I found you just take care of the bare essentials and everything else can sod off.


SevenReasonsToSmile Sun 28-Apr-13 11:59:35

Congratulations gold!

Anyone else fed up of being pregnant now? I'm tired and so uncomfortable.

I am ready for this baby now. Really tired and can't nap in the day. I been doing loads of cleaning to try pass the time. Had my family for the weekend but still didn't manage to rest. My aim for the day is to get dressed and maybe a bit of online shopping to cheer me up. smile

Having a duvet day as was up all night throwing up. Kept having stomach cramps and freaking out that this was going to bring on labour. All right now though.

Have an appointment with my OB tomorrow, going to ask about the possibili of being induced at 39 +2 (May 8th) as that's when we've got our parents coming over to look after DS. The 9th and 10th are holidays over here so I reckon he might go for it just to be able to enjoy the long weekend. Tell me, wise Mumsnetters, what can I expect if I'm induced? Will it be faster/ slower? More/ less painful?

shelly81 Sun 28-Apr-13 13:34:01

Congratulations gold grin can't wait for our baba to make an appearance .... Hope she isn't as late as her brothers tho 9 & 13 days late xx

scooby26 Sun 28-Apr-13 14:41:15

Gold- well done and congrats! Love the name - our top boys name ( if its a he and looks like and Oliver ! )

36w 2 d here so potentially still ages! Gotta be in next 6 weeks but I'm ever hopeful for next 2 ;-)

Boodstress Sun 28-Apr-13 14:47:20

Congratulations Gold. My last baby was an Oliver and he is a joy.

All coming along here, Alice is a bit jaundiced so I am laying in the light of the window. Feeding more should flush it through, she is such a petite feeder compared to my ravenous boys. I still don't believe she's a she and under 8lb - seriously don't know where she came from. She is such a little blessing.

Hope you ladies are hanging in there, it is so near. Enjoy your sleep ... Really try & enjoy that sleep zzzzzz x

Sparklyboots Sun 28-Apr-13 14:56:58

Congratulations Gold and welcome Oliver! It's all very exciting, isn't it.

Sorry to hear you are unwell, MamaB - you haven't been on mat leave long, right? Seems a bit unfair to spend it unwell... <no expert disclaimer> I did think I'd heard that induction contractions are on a bit of a steeper gradient, so you have less time to acclimatise to the discomfort iyswim? For me in your situation, though, I'd probably go for it because I am way more concerned about DS than I am about me and bump! But I would NO WAY go for the 8th of May because the new Star Trek film is out on 9th and I'd like to see it in cinema, given the choice... Oh wait, did I just out myself as a geek...? Anyway, however painful it is, I reckon it is just as painful as you can imagine so probably wouldn't factor that into a decision; birth is a different reality, anyway, right?

Much sympathy to movers; I moved cities the week before DS was born, I didn't really have much choice about the dates, but swore never to schedule stuff like that before birth ever again...

Am so close to finishing my (only paper)work now; officially on mat leave so I don't have to be on site but OMFG I can't wait to just stop for ten minutes and work out what to put in my hospital bag. Yes, I know I should have packed it already (as I'm 38+4) but I'm hoping that my own denial is realised on an actual, physical level....

SevenReasonsToSmile Sun 28-Apr-13 18:45:21

mama that's exactly how I was on Friday, glad you're ok now. No experience of induction but I believe it can take a while to get started but once you start having contractions they tend to be more powerful and efficient therefore more painful.

sparkly have you learnt nothing from the amount of babies we have already? Go and pack that bag now! grin

Lovely to hear from you bood, hope the jaundice clears soon.

Apologies for saying I'm fed up of being pregnant, I know really I should be hoping to go to full term but I'm so exhausted and uncomfortable, plus I realised earlier I've now spent 16 of the last 23 months pregnant. Baby has definitely engaged today and I'm feeling quite hormonal and sorry TMI I've noticed a definite change in discharge so I don't think it'll be too much longer.

TerracottaPie Sun 28-Apr-13 20:08:40

sparkly I still haven't packed my bag either (38+5 today). I've sort of got the baby's parts done though. But I only did that about 20 minutes ago grin

mamma hope you're feeling a bit better. I had an induction last time and only needed the gel to get me going which felt pretty comparable to my non induction labours in that it ramped up gently. I think it's more when membranes are ruptured for you or the drip is started that it can be a bit more intense.

seven you've made me try and work how long I've been pregnant in the last couple of years. It's pretty much 18 months out of the last 25. I did try and work it out in days but the amounts got too scary! Plus I feel really dim today so I'm not trusting my maths grin. Anyway, I think that means you're allowed to feel fed up now. I know I am.

And Bood you sound so very very happy. Thank you for the update smile also hope the jaundice goes soon.

Zorra Sun 28-Apr-13 20:10:16

Another one whose had enough here, did a big yawn and have pulled all the muscles down my neck/throat/side of face sad Not long to go for any of us!

Bunnychan Sun 28-Apr-13 21:54:08

Congratulations gold!
Week 1 of 2 to go at work.. Should be starting to slow down but we'll see what happens! I've a got a unqualified teacher taking over but (excuse the terribly sexist comment) he's definately got a male brain so we'll see who ends up running round.
My sister threw me a surprise baby shower yesterday, incredibly American, but really lovely! Been given a lot of gifts so now need to reorganise and wash more baby stuff lol!
Hope you're all bearing up well; I'm enjoying getting my rib cage back now the baby has started dropping :-) x

Rhienne Sun 28-Apr-13 22:18:58

Congratulations Gold! Great name smile

Here life is ... Pregnant. Must say I think I'm sleeping way way better than I was with DS, but still very tired of being so heavy and having no core muscles! Daily ambition levels are pretty low - still not sure how I managed to take DS out to play teice yesterday, while DH was ill. But spent most of today horizontal, so probably makes up for it.

39+2 and praying LO's not going to go too far over!

lollypopsicle Sun 28-Apr-13 22:21:16

I still have a foot in my ribs, bunny. How lovely of your sister to surprise you.

I committed the ultimate baby brain faux pas today and left the front door open when we left the house- we were gone for hours blush nothing bad happened but still blush

Rhienne Sun 28-Apr-13 22:23:26

Ooops! Just realised the link I posted on the previous page linked to totally the wrong comic, which made no sense whatsoever in context. Sorry! Try this instead:


Rhienne Sun 28-Apr-13 22:24:38

Oh dear Lolly! But thank goodness nothing happened. I have to keep triple checking everything I do, as I really cannot follow through any basic thought processes just now.

SevenReasonsToSmile Sun 28-Apr-13 22:35:25

lolly I almost shoplifted a few weeks ago by putting something on the hood of the buggy while I carried on looking round then forgot about it, only remembered after I'd paid for the other thing I was holding blush. Hope that helps.

bunny glad you enjoyed the shower, what a nice surprise.

Does anyone have much left to do? We're organised enough and all of the big jobs are done except building the cot but we have the crib in our room for the beginning anyway, but I made a list of all the smaller odd jobs I want to get done before her arrival. I was surprised by how much is actually on there. Things like cleaning the baby bath, putting the car seat in the car ready, stocking up the cupboards etc. Anyway I've now done a huge tesco order so the cupboards will be fully stocked up tomorrow night, will hopefully have the energy to tackle some more of the jobs tomorrow.

DizziDoll Mon 29-Apr-13 04:34:56

I'm leaving for the hospital in 30 minutes. I thought ELCS's were meant to be easier in the sense that I would be well rested. Except I haven't slept a wink for 2 nights and feel so unprepared for this baby. I pretty much cried the whole night.

I've been on mat leave for 7 weeks but with easter holidays and DH working stupid hours I feel like I haven't really had a moment to myself. Is it too late to reschedule the ELCS?


I don't think you ever feel truly ready before the baby arrives Dizzi. When they get here it doesn't really matter, you're everything your baby needs so you can't fail to be ready. Good luck for the CS today, you can always ask for it to be rescheduled.

DizziDoll Mon 29-Apr-13 06:43:33

Thanks Mama. I am in now and starting to feel quite excited.

Zorra Mon 29-Apr-13 06:50:16

Good luck Dizzi thinking of you today! As Mamma said, your baby just needs you, and you magically transform to fulfil all those needs.

lollypopsicle Mon 29-Apr-13 07:22:14

Good luck DIzzi

ng1412 Mon 29-Apr-13 07:30:18

Good luck Dizzi am sure you will be fine when you get there. I am counting the days until my c section. A long two weeks ahead! X

Good luck Dizzi. Am I right in thinking you have a surprise re sex. So exciting.

It's all going on today to anyone that hasn't seen fb both twinkiling and Cheerful are having pains start smile Goof luck ladies. I'm so jealous.

Mother in Law told me this morning that shes really busy and as my DP is also baby had better stay put this week. Lovely just what I wanted to hear


SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 29-Apr-13 10:05:57

Good luck dizzi.

Wonder how many more we'll get before may arrives?!

Good luck oops

scooby26 Mon 29-Apr-13 10:09:43

You'll be fine Dizzi- another one for MMMM ! ;-)

Boodstress Mon 29-Apr-13 10:22:41

Good luck Dizzi I was exactly the same last Thursday but you will
Run off adrenalin once the little one is in your arms. I'm still sore but massive difference every day.. Take all the pain relief they offer after x

TigerSwallowTail Mon 29-Apr-13 10:31:01

Congratulations gold! grin Wonderful news.

Good luck dizzi. Don't panic, you'll be fine.

For those of us that are still left and are keen to get things moving - Morrisons are selling pineapples at 50p each. I've ate about 3 already whilst bouncing on my birthing ball!

TigerSwallowTail Mon 29-Apr-13 10:38:39

I feel like I'm the only one still pregnant, everyone else have either already had their babies or havr started to go into labour, even my friends cat went into labour last night! How many of us are left?

Baby is getting very big now and some of her movements are hurting quite a bit as she runs out of space. Last night she kept kicking my ribs really hard. It was so sore that I jumped a couple of times too, is anyone else experiencing the same?

Tiger Nearly all my friends have had their babies just me and one other to go. My baby is head down curled around with his feet on my right side. I have a foot almost constantly poking out its really uncomfortable. He's either really long so can't manoeuvre his legs up a bit or really big shock

ng1412 Mon 29-Apr-13 11:21:53

I am still here Tiger and Beaut, nothing happening at all. Only 37+1 so expecting a long wait. Was induced with my DD at 39 weeks so don't know if she would have been late or not but at least I know I only have a max of 2 weeks with my c section booked.

Another one joining Tiger, Beaut & NG on the subs bench, just got back from the Dr. Baby not engaged and cervix firmly shut - still waiting. another appointment next week to discuss induction, which he is totally fine with.

Hope all has gone well for you Dizzi

I'm not even due until the 16th its just I really thought I would of had him by now. Not sure why as Ive not had an early baby before. I'm going to make an attempt to put the cot together now maybe that will help grin

shelly81 Mon 29-Apr-13 12:29:50

I'm still here too ladies 37 + 2 xx

TigerSwallowTail Mon 29-Apr-13 12:39:10

Hopefully we won't be too long then. I'm just back from a scan after bleeding and cramps last week, everything is fine but the doctor said she reckons that I had my show on Friday, or at least some of it, but can't predict if I'll go into labour soon.

You're due before me beaut, I'm due on the 22nd but after my false alarm I'm desperate for her to come now, I had psyched myself up for having her over the weekend as the same happened when I was pregnant before with DS and I had him that night.

DXBMermaid Mon 29-Apr-13 13:02:46

Just got back from seeing the Dr and the Fysio.

Fysio was interesting, had a vaginal examination to determine of I was using the right muscles when doing my pelvic floor exercises. Thankfully I am! I was so unsure of if I was using the right ones and if they had any strength in them. I need to do a lot for of them to build up strength but at least I've been doing the right thing.

Asked Gyny about the strep-B infection and in particular how long I would get before being induced if my waters broke. The answer was, as soon as my waters break I should go to hospital and they will induce immediately... Hoping that won't happen. Bought some probiotics for me and the baby yesterday, but she seems to think they are a load of nonsense. Well they might be, but I am going to give them a shot anyway.

Good luck to all the ladies who are close to giving birth! I am so very much in two minds about it. On the one hand I am so excited about finally meeting my daughter, on the other hand I feel unprepared for the reality of actually becoming a Mum and want her to stay inside right up until she is due... confused

I'm still here to, 38 weeks tomorrow. Had no sign of baby thinking of coming and no braxton hicks. Gonna get a ball so I can start trying out the bouncing see if that works. I have made plans everyday this week just to pass the time.

DizziDoll Mon 29-Apr-13 13:21:15

Baby Fleur Eleanoor was born at 8:45 this morning, weighing 3.86kg. She is gorgeous! I am in love.

shelly81 Mon 29-Apr-13 13:29:34

Awww congrats dizzi beautiful name :-) another lil lady to the thread xxxx

TigerSwallowTail Mon 29-Apr-13 13:35:17

Congratulations dizzy smile that's lovely, I bet she's a beautiful little girl too.

Congratulations Dizzy another beautiful name.

I have just finished putting up the cot. Very proud of myself grin

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 29-Apr-13 14:01:14

Congratulations dizzi.

Plenty of us left tiger. I'm not due until 31st but the other two were a month early. It's frustrating knowing it could start at any moment, but also I could still have another 5 weeks! I felt like it was close yesterday, today I don't feel anywhere near.

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 29-Apr-13 14:02:28

Well done beaut. I'd probably get told off by DH if I don't ours, plus I have zero energy.


Artichook Mon 29-Apr-13 14:06:20

Congrats Dizzi! Lovely name.

Good luck to all the ladies with twinges etc.

I've just seen my consultant to follow up on my pre-eclampsia scare last week. Things are looking better although BP still a little high. The BP added to the fact that a growth scan suggested that the baby is ALREADY 8lbs, means they have booked an induction for 2 weeks today when I will be exactly 39 weeks. EEEK!

I am not sure what I think about the induction. I think BrusslesMama was asking for views. I had an induction with my first and it did lead to a cascade of interventions which I do believe that I could have avoided if I had waited until my body was more ready. I think the key is to only agree to induction if you have a high Bishops Score. The Bishops Score is the number they give you when they examine your cervix, it combines dilation, effacement, baby's position etc. If it is higher than 6 or 7 then studies show induction should be successful. With my first my Bishops Score was 1 and I think that is why it was so bad. I will only agree to this induction on the day if I have a Bishops Score of at least 6. Until then I am going to try all the old wives' tales for preparing my cervix (um, lucky DH!).

beaver33 Mon 29-Apr-13 14:11:20

Congrats Dizzi - beautiful name for a wee snuggler. Enjoy.

Another one here waiting. Just been for a stroll for a couple of hours, ate a whole box of fresh pineapple, sorted out bank account stuff and posted things I've been meaning to post for ages. Now what?? My boxset of Six Feet Under arrived today so maybe I'll kickstart that new obsession.

Tiger and Beaut I also have really strong movements still - last night it felt like she was going a bit mental in there...! She's head down, feet curled up to my left, and if I'm not being smacked in the ribs it feels like she's burrowing down into my pelvis so I'm getting it both ends hmm.

38 weeks today!

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 29-Apr-13 14:11:31

I'm sure the old wives tales were actually invented by a man, I'm not really fancying sex or hot curry at the moment grin

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 29-Apr-13 14:23:16

Dizzi congrats! Lovely name.

I'm still here, due date is the 7th but I bet I'm still here long after that! Would love it all to happen now but it's unlikely considering DD was 8 days late. Thinking about some shiatsu massage to encourage my body into releasing this baby into the world.


Congratulations Dizzi, lovely name. There are so many girls.

goldmaple Mon 29-Apr-13 14:35:08

Congrats dizzi! Newborn snuggles are amazing!

Birth story (read at your discretion):

Had early contractions starting at about 1:00pm on Friday. Waited until they were 5 mins apart before going to the hospital. I was fluffing my hair as we left so I knew I wasn't quite in active labor wink but second DC can come quickly so I thought I'd better get checked. I was 2-3 cm dilated and told to walk around for 2 hours (which brought us to 10pm).
I was 5cm dilated and admitted and ready for gas and IV narcotic!! The gas was amazing and I actually had a rest in mid labour with all the pain meds. Was much much better than last time.
Had to push by 1:30am but was only 8 cm dilated . Dr did a rimming and broke my waters which quickly dilated me but I also had a uterus or placental tear?!
I pushed about 5 times (was huge relief) and Oliver came out very quickly!! I did not tear at all - yay! But had too much bleeding so I had to have oxytocin and stay at the hospital longer than I wanted.

Oliver is sleepy (if babies come to fast they dont have a chance to get rid of the mucus in their tummies) but we are slowly getting the hang of bf and the after pains really are worse with the second baby. All in all it was about 13.5 hours from start to finish so much faster than DC 1 and I can't complain.

Hope everyone has similar or better!

Congratulations Dizzi, I love the name Fleur really pretty and unusual.

wrigglerchick Mon 29-Apr-13 15:13:18

Congratulations dizzi!

I'm also still here and happy about it - 38+3 and don't feel at all ready for anything to happen yet, although I'm analysing every twinge and have convinced myself LO will be early!

Am nervous about being far from home now but just got back from lunch with friends and have a Physio appt tomorrow so trying to keep busy and hope the LO stays in for a bit longer yet! Or at least until after my bikini wax on Wednesday wink

DXBMermaid Mon 29-Apr-13 15:17:34

Congratulations Dizzi! Enjoy these precious moments.

Arti, thanks for the info on the Bischops score, had never heard of it before. Am hoping to avoid induction, but we shall see.

Gold, thanks for another birth story. Finding it very educational to read all of them.

Seven DP isn't impressed that I'm not resting with my feet up on maternity leave. To be honest I think its only because my cankles every evening freak him out grin

Beaver I have the low down feelings too it makes me feel like I need a wee all the time.

Gold lovely birth story. I didn't know that about them coming quick.

roastpotatoes Mon 29-Apr-13 18:28:54

Well I've just had my first day of maternity leave and loved it! A friend came to visit and we went for a walk and had lunch sat out in the sunshine by the river. Then spent the afternoon chatting and reading the papers. Luxury! I'm happy for the baby not to come for a little while yet....

Congratulations Dizzi and Gold!


Bunnychan Mon 29-Apr-13 21:02:03

Congrats dizzi!
Omg! Some please make my partner understand!!!
We've been invited to a wedding 12 days before my due date and the day after I finish maternity leave. It's a distant friend (of mine); he wants to go as his sisters are going but it's about 30 mins drive away. I don't want to go; I'll be knackered and feel frumpy and grumpy now- let alone then. I've asked not to go but he's adamant he wants to and will go with his sisters- this means he will come back absolutely smashed, no matter how much he promises not too. He was drinking last weekend after my baby shower, the weekend before with an old friend and the weekend before that at his sisters wedding. He's just moaned about life having to stop for the next 3 weeks... Excuse me!!! Aaarrgggghhh! When will men understand (sorry rant over!) x

Bunny I can sympathise with that. Not sure I can help much. DP over heard a conversation last weekend whilst on a family meal about everyone meeting up this Saturday for a friends birthday 12 days before my due dateshock. I didn't even give him chance to respond I said 'dont even think about it'. He keeps saying 'If they go out for a few pints locally before heading into town ill just go to that. I'll only have one'( he never has one and threes about his limit anyway). I've made it quite clear to him a) I need him to get me to hospital should anything happen and b) I will never forgive him if he is drunk at our babies birth. Whether this will have any impact on whether or not he goes out this weekend remains to be seen.

Baby is really wriggly this evening. There is a constant foot poking out of my right side. I never really experienced seeing body parts through my skin so clearly with the first two its nice but a little weird also smile

TigerSwallowTail Mon 29-Apr-13 21:39:21

I didn't even think about DP not drinking until last weekend when I asked him when he was popping out to get his beers as we had a friend coming up, he looked at me like I was daft and started laughing saying ofcourse he couldn't drink incase I went into labour.

shock beaut and bunny tell them that if they go out drinking they'll have a thread full of angry, hormonal/postnatal women to deal with!

Sisi8 Mon 29-Apr-13 21:51:18

Hi. Congrats Dizzi and all those who have already made it to the other side. Only 35+5 so feels ages to go yet, especially as first time was 13 days late! So I could be one of the last wink however this one lying wrong way at moment, so have scan tomorrow to see what happens next.... Excited about seeing him and bit nervous at possibility of a CS... shock

lollypopsicle Mon 29-Apr-13 21:57:38

Congrats Dizzi. Lovely name. Hope the 2 of you are doing well.

2 more days of work left for me. Roll on Wednesday.


Sparklyboots Mon 29-Apr-13 22:54:51

Congratulations Dizzi and thank you for your birth story gold.

Okay, I've got most of the stuff I need for the birth centre, just haven't got it in an actual bag yet. DP snaffled some of it before he realised it was for the birth centre. Honestly, proper food was his top priority last time, though strangely having being through it once he is less concerned this time.

I have finally, finally finished all my paperwork for work; just graded my last papers today. Many were just dreadful, utterly dreadful. I kept sending OMFG emails to my boss with quotes from them, I couldn't quite believe how bad some of them were.

DS and I are basically hanging out together til the baby comes now. Hoping to go 40+, just so we've got a bit of breathing space. Has anyone got other DC presents 'from' the baby? I sort of want to, but also worry its a bit hokey, or about manipulating him into liking the baby or something. My friend is like FFS! HE'S TWO. But, I can't help thinking it's sort of deceptive; it anticipates him not liking the baby; it supposes that he can't be trusted to manage his own relationship with her; it sort of implies that he has to like her. Which he doesn't. On the other hand, we're all getting something lush and he's getting a huge upheaval over which he's had no say and which will absolutely change his whole life. Why begrudge him a bit of Brio? <disclaimer> I may be over-thinking this rather than worry about the actual birth...


scooby26 Tue 30-Apr-13 03:21:20


Having gone to bed at 10.30 surrounded by 3yo with cold- who I must remark has slept next to me lie a dream! ( only cos he's poorly!)

I'm not sure I personally have actually yet had a wink Of sleep. Between my own cold and the nocturnal acrobatics from no 2.....

Sparkly- I'm all for bribery DS is getting a train set ;-)

Oh dear Bunny. I'd be thoroughly pissed off if DH moaned about having to put his life on hold for three weeks - what the fuck have you been doing for the last nine months? Not drinking is not a big thing, how's he going to feel if he misses the birth of his child because he's pissed?

Sparkly we've got DS a present from baby sister. Didn't get anything big just some Jelly Babies, a couple of toy lorries and an ITNG magazine. I don't think it's bribery, more creating a positive first impression.

Artichook Tue 30-Apr-13 07:45:22


Sparkly my older DCs are 6 and 4 so they understand and are so excited for the baby that I am not doing presents. I think we may spend some money on special outings with DH once the baby is here. When DC2 arrived, and DC1 was only 2, I totally over thought the introduction. We bought a present from the baby and made sure I wasn't holding her when DD1 waked in etc etc etc. I wish I'd just relaxed as it was a weird and strained first meeting with DH and I all stressed over how DD2 would react. The poor girl was being watched like a hawk and artificially spoilt and she knew it.

I've been given sooooo many baby boys clothes. I've bought nothing myself yet but just counted my 0-3 month stuff (which is much smaller than the 3-6 month pile!) and there are 16 baby gros, 10 undervests, 6
tiny trousers, 4 summer cardis, 4 thick cardis, 12 pairs of teeny tiny socks, 3 summer hats, 7 warmer hats and 3 pairs of tinsy swimming trunks. That's just the hand me downs before gifts arrive. I don't think I will buy a thing!

Rhienne Tue 30-Apr-13 09:13:50

Hi Sparkly. DS will be 24 months when this LO arrives, and I have also been totally overthinking the introduction. I have a huge stash of presents to give him if people turn up with stuff for the LO, and he gets upset that the present isn't for him. Last time we had a bday (mine) he was convinced anything in wrapping paper was for him. And though I can't find it again now, I'm sure I read somewhere here on Mumsnet that it was a good strategy to shower no1 with presents.

We have been reading this book, which DS has actually been really interested in that last few days, and just in the last few days he's also started to show lots of interest in baby dolls, so I got out the one I'd bought to give him when LO arrived. The last 24 hours have been all about babbee! Both the one in my tummy, and the baby doll.

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 30-Apr-13 09:33:26

We have small presents here too, plus we let DS choose a special cuddly toy for him to give to the new baby. Small treats when people visit are definitely good, I don't think it's bribery, just not letting them think the new baby gets all of the attention.

arti that's an impressive stockpile! I'm glad we're having another girl as DD is only 17 months so we have all of her clothes, I've barely bought anything except bibs as the old ones were grubby and a tiny dress that was so cute I couldn't resist

Having a few twinges this morning, I guess we shall see.

Rhienne Tue 30-Apr-13 10:14:15

I got sucked in by the vouchers we receive in baby bags here (I guess a little like the Bounty bags I've seen referred to on Mumsnet in the UK). Get one free outfit from Shop X, so of course I got the free one and bought two others... We actually have everything we need from DS, but it seems nice to have a few new things for this LO. Am I odd to be worried that I won't be able to tell which is which in their baby photos, if they're wearing all the same clothes?

Rhienne Tue 30-Apr-13 10:16:12

I found BF quite challenging with DS - got mastitis very early on and took a long time for it to become painfree for me. So this time I've been reading up on tips to make it go as smoothly as possible.

I found this today - which I thought was very interesting. Might be interesting for anyone else here planning on trying to BF:


DISCLAIMER: I have no idea of the qualifications of the author, or how well researched this article is.

beaver33 Tue 30-Apr-13 10:29:41

Morning all. Today is going to be very exciting because the curtains and carpets are being delivered for the nursery AND the bookshelves are going up in our living room. You have no idea how many boxes this will get rid of, which are currently cluttering up our living room/hall/bedroom. For a woman in the desperate stages of nesting, today is like heaven. I can put up the cot! I can fold away baby clothes! I deserve extra biscuits for all the effort this will take, another bonus!

I also have a slight conundrum and wanted some views from those who've been there before.

My parents are on the opposite side of the country (a full days' travelling) and are being very sweet about not wanting to interfere or burden us when LO is born. But it will be their first grandchild, and TBH they'll be champing at the bit to meet her.

However...it means they'll have to stay with us, and probably for several days/close to a week. This in itself is fine for me - we get on well and I think I'll need the extra help and support. But DH is being a bit weird about it. Partly it's because I think he sees the two weeks of paternity leave as a special time for us as a new family, and resents any interference in that. Partly also it's because the timing of this little lamb ain't great as he's doing professional exams and will need to work during his leave.

My view is well, what about me? If you're off beavering away at a desk, where's my support? But from his perspective it makes doing any work at all much harder if we have a house full of people.

I think he needs to be more realistic about what having a new baby actually means, and how I'll be feeling. But I also know how stressed he's going to be anyway, regardless of our new arrival.

My parents are lovely and very well meaning and will do everything they can to support us and make sure we're happy. I don't see how I can stop them coming, and I don't want to. I've made sure DH has a quiet space to work in (although it's in our spare room, which my folks will be using) and not sure what else I can do.

Sorry, long post, and quite boring. But it's something that's playing on my mind right now.

Any ideas? And putting my folks up in a hotel isn't an option really.

Wirrawoo Tue 30-Apr-13 10:57:20

Hey beaver yay for nesting! The feeling of satisfaction when you can stand back and observe all the stuff that is out of boxes and in its new place is sooo nice. Having moved a gazillion times I empathise smile
My only advice re your parents is to keep talking until he can really understand and accept what the situation is going to need to be. It's tough for guys sometimes I think. Sounds like he wants to be superman and be there for you both but perhaps hasn't quite wrapped his head around what you will need in those first few weeks if he is working. Are there any good cafes nearby that he can go and do a few hours study in whilst your parents are there so that it doesn't get too claustrophobic? Maybe if you both sit down and work out a sort of sensitive sketch of a timetable for his study needs etc alongside things for your parents to do whilst they are there, then you will be able to avoid any tension. Also perhaps a compromise of them coming towards the end of his leave after you've both had some alone time together? Or working out alone time together that you can have whilst they are there?

My mum lives down the road which will be amazing, but we are going to have to be careful about some boundaries as sometimes she gets a bit carried away and I get a bit crowded out when she freaks out if I don't answer a text for a few hours! All the rest of my family a in Australia though and with DP's mum & sister being such soap opera nightmares right now (they haven't spoken to us for 4 months apart from a family outing that DP went to where they barely spoke to him & weren't interested in anything to do with the pregnancy. It's really upset me actually, i realise depression is an illness but their selfishness has been staggering over this time. All this for NO apparent reason other than they think he has been 'brainwashed' by this ridiculous love thing!)... Anyway, Oz loved ones seem so far away and I am missing the support big time, so l totally support you wanting your parents around. If things aren't set in stone anyway, maybe it will make him feel less restricted if you can play it by ear to a certain extent once the baby arrives?

bunny you poor thing! I would be mega pissed off if DP started talking like that. 3 weeks is a mere blip in time but if he misses the birth of your baby, or cant drive because he's over the limit or causes you unnecessary stress with any of these worries right at the end of your pregnancy those are things that are important! Big reality check for him needed hmm

Congrats gold that was a great story. It's all happening now ladies! Who will be next???

Artichook Tue 30-Apr-13 11:00:14

Beaver - what about suggesting to DH that he stops all work for the first week and the three of you just bond and support one another? Then suggest that he spend the second week catching up on his revision and your parents come down to support you. Ask your parents to agree they will only sleep in the spare room and let him have it all day if necessary. Might that be a compromise?

I think the first few days it is lovely and important to be alone just you, your partner and the baby.

beaver33 Tue 30-Apr-13 11:35:40

Thanks Wirra and Arti. DH is a wonderful man and will make a brilliant Dad but he can be a bit of a drama queen sometimes (just like his mother) if he feels crowded or has his space otherwise invaded.

There is a local library he can use and I think I just need to keep gently reminding him that I'm going to need support and that it's not unreasonable for both sets of parents to want to be around over the next few weeks. Am trying also to get him to finish as much work as he can before LO arrives so he's less stressed later.

Also like the idea both of you suggested re making sure we have time together alone. I think if he feels we'll still get that it might help.

Wirra I'd forgotten about the situation with DP's family. That's really tough. Depression is such a difficult illness. Great your mum's so close, bless her, even if she's going to prove trying sometimes (who's mother doesn't??). I suppose it's harder because you know that actually having the baby isn't going to make things any easier. Perhaps it may encourage some kind of contact, though, and could soften things slightly. Presumably DP would let them know the baby's been born and that could lead to at least some kind of conversation?

I sympathise because, although my sister is now pregnant again (she miscarried when I found out about my pregnancy back in August and things have been very difficult since) she still doesn't express any real interest in me or how things are going. Less than two weeks until my due date and we Skyped for half an hour the other night without her asking a single question about my pregnancy (she's moved to New York). It was her husband who finally stepped in. I don't think she's making any plans to come to the UK to meet her niece and that is hurting me more than anything. We're a year apart in age and used to be very close and now...we could be complete strangers. very sad.

Another long post - must be feeling chatty today or just lounging on my sofa waiting for carpets

Time for another biccie x

Boodstress Tue 30-Apr-13 11:43:58

Thanks Rhienne - I breast fed son 1 & 2 with no problems but this time has been very very different and challenging. Some interesting points on there.

roastpotatoes Tue 30-Apr-13 16:06:06

beaver that does sound like a tricky dynamic with your dh and parents visiting. I too have this impression of the two weeks when my dh will be on paternity leave as this very special time when we will get to know our little baby and get used to life as a family. If it was me, I would almost prefer that my parents delayed their visit so that they could help with the transition when your dh has to go back to work (that's the time that I am most worried about). But if you want them to come sooner than that, I agree with the others that you need to just keep talking and find a way that he will be able to get some space and work during that time as well. I hope that by now you are in carpet/curtain heaven and you are finally able to get organised. It is sooo frustrating wanting to get the house sorted but not being able to - i was in that place a few weeks ago before our carpets went down.

Well, day 2 of mat leave here.... I have a list of things that I should be getting on with but I have been incredibly lazy, lying around reading. I've read a bit of 'French children don't throw food'. Has anyone else read it? It's quite interesting - the chapter I read today was about trying to figure out why French children seem to sleep through the night much earlier than British/American children.

rhienne thanks for posting the thing about breast feeding. Seems like a really useful guide for what to expect.

I've been having some funny belly pains today - some period like cramps and then some more sharp stitch like pains. But nothing regular, so am presuming it's just baby in funny positions rather than the start of anything... smile


betsyb75 Tue 30-Apr-13 16:15:25

Hi Everyone.
I haven't posted in a really long time, but I have been keeping up to date with everyone's news and the amazing birth stories.

I think last time I posted, I was upset and had just found out my dad has cancer.
Well, he is the strongest most amazing dad in the world, I just love him so much- he has started chemo, and even though he has lost his much loved big white bushy hair-he is being so brave. I can't wait for him to meet his grandson, and me being pregnant has really helped keep everyone's spirits up.

So I am 39 +1 and going a bit stir crazy at home. Making obscene amounts of cake-Mary Berry would be proud. Wondering if this big baby of mine is ever going to appear...my emotions are just all over the place, and starting to feel a bit restless and anxious.

My midwife wants me to have a sweep next week, but I have to say I am a bit scared...I am just a bit rubbish with internal examinations and I get so nervous. I know I have to go through worse when I have the baby, but do I have to have a sweep?

Cant believe I am going to be a mummy- I am so excited!

roastpotatoes Tue 30-Apr-13 16:27:38

Hi betsy! Great to hear from you and so good that your Dad is getting on so well. We are similar dates as I am 39+2. My midwife suggested a sweep on my due date, which seems early to me. But the more I think about it, the more I think I'll go for it. I'm pretty keen to avoid being induced if I can, so this might get things moving a bit earlier to avoid that. And also, she will hopefully be able to give me some indication of if I am close or not - the waiting and not knowing is hard to handle! But she did say when she booked me in that it is totally up to me, so if you really don't want it I think you can just say so.

betsyb75 Tue 30-Apr-13 16:50:34

Hi Roast I remembered we were close due dates!
I think I will just go to the appointment and see what happens, like you I would like to avoid being induced.
It's nice to hear from you, hope you are feeling well.

rachywhite83 Tue 30-Apr-13 17:34:54

I'm booked in for a sweep on Friday. I have an ongoing medical condition and my consultant does not want me to go over. We will see what happens !

lollypopsicle Tue 30-Apr-13 19:06:19

You definitely don't have to have a sweep if you don't want one. I fact, you don't have to have any internal exam if you don't want one, inc in labour.

Evening everyone, hope you are all enjoying the sunshine. Actually got out of the house with DD today and we are both exhausted now.

I had a sweep on my due date with DD and it didn't do anything. Think it may of been a bit to soon. Glad I'm not the only one who is nesting. DH has banned me from doing too much now after I went crazy with a steam cleaner on Friday.

With family we didn't have anybody come for a week after we had DD so we could enjoy just being on our own with her and as it was our 1st we wanted to enjoy every second. This time my mum is gonna come when labour starts and then stay a couple of days to help out, just in case I have to stay in.

How nice is it to think that as of tomorrow we can all say our babies will be here this month. I can't wait now.

DXBMermaid Tue 30-Apr-13 21:13:10

We've also decided that my Mum will come out only after the birth. The plan at the moment is for DH to take two weeks off, then for my Mum to come for a week and then for DH to take another week off. Soon after that Ramadan starts which here means that DH can finish everyday at 14.30 which he normally wouldn't do as we are not Muslim and don't fast, but this year he might to be able to spend more time with us. I think it is very important to do what feels right with regards to having people come and stay. If you feel that you need support and you don't think you will be getting it from your DP, then make sure you are getting it elsewhere. Just a thought, but you haven't got friends locally who are away on holiday in that period and need someone to look after the cat? Then your parents could house sit which would give all of you some more breathing space.

Spent most of today watching the abdication or our Queen and crowning of our new King on Dutch television. Felt very homesick and cried through most of it. Was lovely to watch and Charles and Camilla looked lovey together as well.

That will be nice having someone to help for a month. When DD was born DH went away with work (he is in the navy) for 5 days and it was horrendous. I was on my own coz we are nowhere near family and they where all working so couldn't help. This time I'm making sure I have plenty of back up around. I'm happy that DD will start nursery the day after she is 2 (mid June) for a few afternoons a week so I can spend time on my own with the new baby.

Rhienne Tue 30-Apr-13 21:32:06

Beaver - I would also suggest having your parents come as soon as DH has to go back to work. Those first few weeks, I found I did most of the night wakings: since I had to be up to feed DS anyway, it just made more sense for DH to sleep when he could. So DH was around to take care of DS when I crashed during the day. But the LO also sleeps quite a bit, so your DH should be able to get some study done, while both you and your LO sleep.

When my parents come they also have to stay with us, and it worked out that they arrived just as DH was going back to work after DS was born. This was great for me, having help after DH went back to work, and meant we weren't all driving each other crazy in our little apartment.

Your DH needs to be realistic about how much study he can do with a newborn in the house, but I think you'll all have a more peaceful time if your parents can wait just those first couple of weeks.

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 30-Apr-13 21:42:32

Birth story alert grin

I had a few twinges this morning then a small amount of blood when I wiped. Came into hospital for monitoring, contractions started around 1pm and quite severe by 4pm. Beatrice Ann made her very speedy arrival at 5.26 weighing 5lbs exactly at 35+4. She's in SCBU getting a little help with her breathing but is otherwise healthy.

I've been keeping on top of the births and adding them onto the stats thread, would a couple of people mind volunteering to take over for the next few arrivals please? dizzi's LO still needs adding too. Thanks x

Congratulations Seven. Another lovely name. She is so tiny to. X

lollypopsicle Tue 30-Apr-13 21:48:53

Wooo! You do evict them early, don't you, seven! Sounds very efficient! Congratulations. Hope Beatrice goes from strength to strength.

roastpotatoes Tue 30-Apr-13 21:59:40

Congratulations seven!! It's great that it went so smoothly and quickly. I hope her stay in special care is short and you are soon able to go home. Lovely name!

TigerSwallowTail Tue 30-Apr-13 22:06:45

Congratulations seven! smile

Well it's officially May in a couple of hours, I wonder who will be our first May baby.

Rhienne Tue 30-Apr-13 22:11:42

Congratulation Seven! Welcome Beatrice smile

scooby26 Tue 30-Apr-13 22:22:30

Seven- well done! Nice and quick and lovely name! Im not due until 24th and i really hope early- guarantee with my luck it'll be 2 weeks late so another 5 weeks! Aargh! Enjoy ur snuggles... May tomorrow!

wrigglerchick Tue 30-Apr-13 22:30:59

Congratulations seven!