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July 2013 - thread 7 - and we're still talking as we enter the 3rd trimester

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Persuasion Mon 15-Apr-13 16:36:47

We've managed to fill yet another thread, so here is a new one to keep chatting away on...

And the stats list is here

MrsRoss26 Mon 15-Apr-13 16:40:20

Thanks Persuasion. Now to catch up on thread 6...

wifey6 Mon 15-Apr-13 16:48:09

Thank you for new thread smile
Settling in for the 3rd trimester smile

Thanks. smile

Re-posted in case no one goes back to the old thread.

Indecisive Well my DS was a really sleepy unborn baby and rarely moved. When he was born he was the same and when in SCBU the nurses were having to actually wake him up once 5 hours had passed to feed him as he just was happy to sleep. He's continued pretty much the same until toddlerhood.

BadMiss Having lost weight while eating nothing but junk I can't imagine what it would be like without the junk! Is it gestational diabetes? Will you be able to eat what you like once the baby is born?

I don't have a huge bump either though, that's the thing. For anyone to know I'm pregnant I would actually have to tell them.

Persuasion Mon 15-Apr-13 16:59:51

In terms of movements I feel them more on the right than the left, probably 80% at the top, and the rest right at the bottom near my bladder/cervix. I have an anterior placenta though so that may affect it I imagine. Also, in the last week the movements seem to have fallen into more of a pattern with quiet periods when I guess she's sleeping, and then periods where she kicks me lots when she's awake. The kicks seem to be inevitably when I've just lain down to go to sleep!

In terms of weight, I've definitely gained, but it's all in my bump and boobs, there doesn't seem to be any change in my size otherwise. I think it's all quite individual though. Because I knew chip may be small, and the placenta may not be working as well as normal I've not limited myself food-wise at all, I've just trusted my body to tell me what it wants, within reason. I am trying to keep things healthy though, with lots of fruit and a whole variety of food. I figure I can lose weight again after if I need to, but so far despite eating like a horse it doesn't seem too bad. My mom also got a huge bump when pg with me, so I wonder if some of the way the weight distributes is genetic. As long as baby is growing fine on measurements/scans, that's all that matters as far as I'm concerned.

IndecisivePramBuyer81 Mon 15-Apr-13 17:00:08

This is what concerns me! mine is v active and I'm v concerned this is going to translate to a restless baby! bugger....confused

TomDaleysTrunks Mon 15-Apr-13 17:22:56

Another one with an extremely active baby. Midwife couldn't find heartbeat the other day but could see and feel loads of movements. It's almost constant kicks - or feels that way!

Thinking of you all shiv.

Weight gain: 10lbs. Massive bump, all out in front. I'm trying to make healthy choices, it's hard though as I don't really fancy fruit etc. grin
Off to Spain on Sat woop do woop!

25 +2

dinkystinky Mon 15-Apr-13 17:26:49

Thanks for the new thread Persuasion - just in time!

Sorry to hear of the poorly kids on thread - hope they all get better soon.

Movements - big movements on top right hand side of the bump (legs/bum I think) small movements on bottom right of the bump. They're really painful at the top.

Indecisive - DS2 was an active baby in utero and is still v active now - but he was a really mellow baby till he hit 5 months and started to be on the go again...

BadMissM Mon 15-Apr-13 17:40:39

Schro Is gestational diabetes, but is the second time I've had it so praying it goes away when LO is born.... apparently each time you get it increases your chances of having it for keeps (gulp).

My movement seems to go in periods...he wakes up when I go to bed, and quitens doen in the day when I'm active, unless I bend over and squish him, then I get kicked.

DD was a cosmically lazy baby in utero and in reality...had to wake her up to feed...now she's an equally lazy teenager! Only thing she loved was water, if I was in the bath she'd go mental!

26 weeks bob on today...

esme80 Mon 15-Apr-13 18:00:19

Hi everyone! My movements are mostly on the right side low down. Most active at night when I am relaxing, and quieter when I am more active during the day!

My ds went against the trend it seems! He was super active when pg but very chilled out baby and still is, mostly!

notprincesskate Mon 15-Apr-13 18:07:09

ama I have PM you about joining the FB group- hope that is ok and I got it right!
My movements still tend to be quite random in places, although I do seem to be getting a lot of pressure- rather than kicks under my ribs on L hand side, it feels a bit like stitch and is mighty uncomfortable until jumping bean wriggles across a bit. Last time mw had a feel she said I was tranverse, I've got a growth scan tomorrow so I guess I will see what is where then.

Abzs Mon 15-Apr-13 18:08:59

I've started putting on weight now too. Should probably eat less haribo.

I started at 55 kilos (8st 6lbs) in November, went down to 52 and am now up to 60 (9st 4lbs). I've only weighed over 9 stone once before and for a short while as I felt heavy (I'm only 5'2" - 8 1/2 stone is about right for me). I feel like that again. Midwife suggested trying some different swimming pools to see if I can find one warm enough for my slow swimming.

MrsMillions Mon 15-Apr-13 18:38:30

Esme a super chilled DC after being active in utero sounds good to me, send some of those vibes my way please!

My kicks reached the ribcage this weekend, and have been quite focused up there today. They also follow the "more kicks when I'm resting" trend, although being sat at my desk or in a meeting can count as resting where bump's concerned.

My non-maternity winter coat was getting very snug so I took the plunge on a spring coat from JoJo Maman Bebe this weekend. It's very much a maternity shape and makes me feel distinctly mumsy but it's so good to have room to breathe! Let's hope the sun keeps shining, it won't be warm enough if we revert to the icy chills of a few weeks ago.


Devilforasideboard Mon 15-Apr-13 18:57:08

Just quickly popping in to say I'm thinking of you and your family Shiv x

Will catch up shortly, just wanted to repost (with her permission of course) Shiv's latest update:

Hi guys.
Quick Oliver update.
Next few hours critical as have found a severe bleed on left side of brain. He is one of the smallest babies they have dealt with.
It's heart breaking. Love to all and again will keep you posted (and please cross post to MN - where I have seen the messages of support which I read to DH & they gave us much comfort).

Runswithsquirrels Mon 15-Apr-13 19:09:32

Lets all put Oliver in our thoughts and prayers over the next few hours then. X

dinkystinky Mon 15-Apr-13 19:14:58

Shiv - you, DH and Oliver especially remain in my thoughts and prayers. Sending hugs and white light to you all to guide and give you all strength and hope xxxx

Thinkingof4 Mon 15-Apr-13 19:21:49

Shiv I can't begin to imagine what you and dh are going through just now. I'll be saying a little prayer for your beautiful son Oliver again and keeping you all in my thoughts xx

Wishing you, DH and Oliver all the luck and strength you need right now, shiv.

Shiv have said a prayer for you all. He is obviously a fighter to have come this far. They can come through severe bleeds and live to fight another battle. My friend's son kept us terrified in nicu and is now a feisty 8 year old.,( ditto family friend's grandson who was a 25 weeker). I hope the next few hours are good and he gets stronger and stronger. You must be going through hell.

Cheeseandbread Mon 15-Apr-13 19:54:14

Sending positive thoughts and strength to Shiv, Mr Shiv and Oliver

Regarding movement I only used to feel bean low on the left but in the last week or so she has been wriggling low and high. I saw her move in the bath the first time lady week which was nice smile


GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 15-Apr-13 19:54:43

Delurking from the August Antenatal thread (I was on this thread, back when it began as I was due lateJune/early July, but was unfortunately the first to leave with a mc); Shiv, I have be holding you, your dear Oliver & your family in my thoughts and prayers all day.
I hope this evening goes smoothly. xxx

CitizenOscar Mon 15-Apr-13 20:03:11

Shiv - Wishing you, Oliver and all your family loads of strength. Hope you hear some encouraging news soon. Keep on in there little one!

Thanks for the new thread - got a bit worried when I saw the other one was at 1000 posts but should have known one of you efficient types were already on it!

My movements are mostly high up under my ribs, mostly on the left (as I look down). Makes me sit up straight so think the baby just wants a bit more space.

Don't know how much weight I've gained as I never weigh myself but the bump is getting sizeable. Got 28-week MW appointment this week so will see what they say.

AmaDablam Mon 15-Apr-13 20:22:15

Thanks for the new thread Persuasion and for reposting *Shiv's" latest news from FB. Keeping everything crossed for little Oliver.

NotPrincessKate No worries. I've PM'd you back to say happy to add you but struggling to find you on FB. I've put my RL name in there so you can add me and do it that way.

Re. movement I'm like several others and feel most of my movements upper right and lower left (sometimes simultaneously which is very strange!), with the stronger ones being at the top. I also get that stitch like pain sometimes that notprincess was talking about. I only have one area on the left of my belly button where I never feel any movements so I guess that's where my (anterior) placenta must be. Not really sure whether she's a particularly active baby or not as I have nothing to compare with, but I can go through several hours of no movement followed by anything between 10 minutes and a couple of hours of lots. And yep, the "busy" periods often coincide with me settling down for the night! On the plus side she's rarely up and about when I get up for work so hopefully she'll be a baby that likes to lie in!

Oh and she also bucks the trend in that she's more likely to be woken up by a hot drink than a cold one!


photographerlady Mon 15-Apr-13 20:27:35

If anyone's having trouble getting in the FB group you are welcome to send me a message I have a simple short name on my account.

AmaDablam Mon 15-Apr-13 20:38:37

Sorry, meant to say thanks Guavas for reposting about Shiv. Time for an early night I think!

bigbelly4 Mon 15-Apr-13 20:39:32

Iclaudius - really thinking of a landrover discovery, we had one before but sold it to buy mpv (citroen c8)when I had three under three and all in carseats rather than boosters. Which was fine and did us well. We then decided no more babies and got a vw passat estate and low and behold 1 year later decided actually we did want just one more!

I have mixed feelings about changing as I love my vw, but either I get a 7 seater or leave hubby at home or take 2 cars on family trips(sometimes leaving him at home is preferable -lol!)

orangebubbles Mon 15-Apr-13 21:00:25

Thanks Persuasion smile I can't believe we filled another thread already!!!

Shiv thinking of you and your little man xx


Thinkingof4 Mon 15-Apr-13 21:24:27

I'm getting most movements top right as well, bigger kicks here, and smaller squirmy kind of movements bottom left. I have seen a bit of correlation between movements in utero and how active baby/ toddler goes on to be. Ds3 was soooo active in the womb and has continued at a pace since he was born. We have a climbing frame in garden which he has been climbing up for months, and today his feet slipped, leaving him holding on by his hands. He managed to hold on until I ran across the garden to rescue him (basically like swinging from monkey bars) which must have been at least 20seconds, I was well impressed at how strong he is! As soon as I rescued him he was climbing back up again!
Anyway this baby seems a lot less active than he was, more like ds1 who is pretty chilled out so I'm hoping this is the case.

Thanks for the new thread btw persuasion. Ive been having lots of nosebleeds too strangely enough, has never happened in previous pregnancies, and its really annoying as it just comes on with no warning, leading to blood on pillows etc!
Still I'm glad I'm not the only one with this symptom

bigbelly we are thinking about changing dh's car to a discovery but might wait till the end of my maternity leave as that is the time when dh will need to be able to fit 4 in his car to do pick ups from childminder. I have a multimac carseat in my car already so we do have on car which we can fit everyone in meantime.
How did you like your discovery? Our neighbours have one and seem to love it but theirs is a lot newer than the ones we would be considering as we are going to be extra skint once I'm on mat leave

dinkystinky Mon 15-Apr-13 21:33:24

Dh's dream car is a discovery...DS1 quite taken with them too.

Thinking - your ds3 sounds like a true climber! Impressed at his upper body strength.

bigbelly4 Mon 15-Apr-13 21:53:51

I LOVED my old discovery, and tbh really didnt like the mpv, but it served its purpose! So a disco is def top of the list. We wont be getting a new one, probaby a discovery3 rather than 4.

dinkystinky Mon 15-Apr-13 22:06:05

Tom - have a lovely holiday in Spain. Notprincesskate - good luck for your growth scan tomorrow. MrsMillions - if you're planning to use a sling that maternity shaped spring coat will be good to use in the autumn too.

VinegarDrinker Mon 15-Apr-13 22:22:21

Thanks for keeping us updated on Oliver's progress, thoughts with him and his family. They are so tiny and fragile but can surprise everyone by being nothing short of miraculous in their progress. So everything crossed.

Nothing much to report here, had a nice weekend getting out in the sunshine. Borrowed a road bike off my neighbour for commuting the last few days as mine is being fixed, I love it but seems bump isn't so keen on being squashed!

28+6 today

notprincesskate Mon 15-Apr-13 22:31:13

Just dropping in quickly to say prayers and thoughts going to Oliver, Shiv and family tonight, keep fighting little man x

Just an update, I hardly catch up before it's off again! RE: weight gain, I've put on about a stone and starting to freak out about how much more I'm going to put on in 3 months. I was just over 10 stone before (but lost a few pounds in 1st trimester) and now 11. Ahk!

RE: movement I'm another that seems to feel it top right and bottom left - sometimes really far around, very confusing. Midwife said it was too early to tell position and they move around so much anyway at this point, but I'm really curious and want to know!

Dinky that's a good point about sling underneath maternity coat, didn't even cross my mind! Must remember that one smile

Cannot WAIT for maternity leave, I'm so sick of primary school politics and am much more sensitive to it while pregnant. It feels like I can do no right since getting pregnant, having been in the good books up til then. hmm

Anyway, 27 weeks tomorrow, that's something to smile about smile

cheekbyjowl Mon 15-Apr-13 23:31:50

Oliver - what a trooper. Keep getting stronger young man!
Over 6000 posts. Goodnight mums

BB01 Tue 16-Apr-13 08:03:16

Just marking my place and popping in to say I hope Oliver is doing well.

Sashabella0 Tue 16-Apr-13 08:56:21

Thinking of baby Oliver. X

dinkystinky Tue 16-Apr-13 09:35:08

Morning all. Thinking of Shiv, DH and Oliver and hoping you are all ok x

Guavas - so sorry to hear work is being painful - office/school politics are the pits! FWIW, it wont be personal and wont be anything to do with you or your pregnancy in reality - its just you're being used as an obvious scapegoat, probably because at 27 weeks you cant run and hide (that pesky sticky out bump!). Dont worry about weight gain - am well ahead of you there - and I was just under 11 stone to start with. I tend to put on 3 to 31/2 stone in pregnancy (all boobs and bump) and lose it while on maternity leave through walking everywhere, healthy eating and exercises. This time I fear I may break my record, but hey, what you gonna do about it apart from deal with it afterwards. Dont freak out - if you put on the weight, you put it on. Just eat healthily, live healthily, keep up some form of exercise and what will be, will be.

Vinegar - am chuckling at the idea of you on a road bike with a big bump bypassing all those dawdling commuter bumps and the riders on those bumps going shock

Am suddenly super tired here and getting breathless every so often - I suspect its a side effect of lazing on holiday and not doing any exercise other than a bit of walking so am going to have to rectify that starting today!

dinkystinky Tue 16-Apr-13 09:35:58

And I had a woman this morning walk up from behind me and tell me she guessed I was pregnant from my walk - its too early for the pregnant penguin waddle to start!

Abzs Tue 16-Apr-13 10:05:23

Having a day off sick today. Do not believe the nurse when she tells you the whooping cough vaccine doesn't usually have any effects. I'm tired, nauseous and my arm is sore. Make sure if you have it, it isn't in the arm you sleep on...

elliejjtiny Tue 16-Apr-13 10:10:29

Have posted on the fb group as well but still thinking of Shiv and Oliver, hope the morning has brought better news.

Gary congratulations on your pregnancy, lovely to hear when the ladies who have had to leave us are pregnant again.

re cars we are in the process of getting a vauxhall zafira. We are getting it from the motability scheme (DS2 is disabled) so they have to check DH's driving licence before the garage order the car.

re movements mostly getting kicks really low down and the odd headbutt in my ribs. I have loads of waters apparantly so Severus still has plenty of time to turn.


SundaySunshine Tue 16-Apr-13 10:40:16

Morning, I'm not on FB group, but if someone could pass on my thoughts and best wishes to Shiv, Mr Shiv, and little Oliver. Dh and I have been thinking about them all over the last few days, so we're sending hugs and positive vibes their way flowers

dinkystinky Tue 16-Apr-13 10:47:12

Sunday - I think Shiv is still reading this thread - she just finds it hard to post on it from the hospital (but can FB quite easily) so she is picking up, and reading to her DH, your well wishes to her DH and Oliver. Those on FB have passed on that we're all rooting for Oliver too.

Gary - really hope your pregnancy is going well. Thanks to you and the other delurkers for posting on her with your messages of support to Shiv and family. The more love and support we can send them, the better.

Abzs - that doesnt sound like much fun at all! Keep your fluids up if you dont feel up to eating and try to sleep it off if possible.

SundaySunshine Tue 16-Apr-13 10:56:16

Thanks for the new thread smile

Re movements, I'm getting definate kicks under the ribs, squirmy hand wriggles really low down, head butts on my bladder, and general fidgety wriggles all over, especially when I'm eating and when I've gone to bed. Yesterday I had a comedy mini bump poking out just above my belly button which must have been a knee or foot! So cute smile

I am definately nesting, nothing (and no one) is safe from my manic tidying, luckily I have a lot of stuff to sort through grin I've found no less then seven boxes full of 'important paper' that DH has been hoarding in the conservatory!!! So abz you're not the only one whose DH has a paper thing going on.

SundaySunshine Tue 16-Apr-13 11:03:04

gary congrats on your pregnancy, glad to hear you managed to get straight back on the preggars bus.

Thanks Dinky I'll just keep sending Shiv well wishes from here then.

Cheeseandbread Tue 16-Apr-13 11:43:03

Dinky I like the sound of your penguin waddle smile sorry you have been feeling so worn out lately. I hope the exercise helps- I'm very impressed! I walk a lot but nothing more...

Guava I know what you mean about school politics... Fingers crossed the last few weeks are brighter and more positive. I have also put on over a stone already. I'm planning on breast feeding and have heard that helps with weight loss later. Like Dinky I'm trying not to worry about it.

Abzs sorry the injection had bad side effects for you. Hope you are resting well.

I am ill at home today too as feeling sicky all last night and was sick this morning. I got no sleep. I haven't been sick with the pregnancy until now but think it must be pregnancy related. The cat is keeping me company in bed.

Gary I'm glad you are back on the pregnancy bus too.

Still keeping Shiv Mr Shiv and Oliver in my thoughts.


Gingerpanther27 Tue 16-Apr-13 12:11:10

hope shiv, mr shiv and oliver are doing ok xxx

Grannyapple Tue 16-Apr-13 13:08:20

Hi ladies...went to docs this morning to rule out UTI for the pains over the w/e..& yesterday. No apparent UTI but apparently a small
amount of glucose in my wee....so now got to have GTT tomorrow morning...grr. Everything else was fine so I think doc is just being over cautious tbh....I think some docs get frightened when dealing with pregnant ladies grin.

So for those that have had theirs already-all hints/tips appreciated smile.

dinkystinky Tue 16-Apr-13 13:38:34

Granny - dont eat anything before your GTT - just drink water. Down the horrible sugar drink within 5 minutes and make a record of when you finish it - you then have to hunt out the phlebologist at the right time to take your bloods (for me it was an hour later). Take a good book to read - if you'll have DD with you take lots of snacks/toys for her to play with otherwise she'll get v bored. Take some food to eat once the test is done (the earlier you can get it done the better) or you'll be starving and grumpy. Other than that, nothing else you need to know.

Cheese - hope you feel better soon. There are still some horrid bugs dooing the rounds. Exercise did seem to help - just some pilates but feel abit less leaden after it.

BB01 Tue 16-Apr-13 13:38:48

Love how I feel something new then come on here and lots of others are getting it, in this instance the kicks in ribs alternating with wriggles everywhere else including very low in my pelvis. Baby feels so big now!

Another one off sick today. Have not been sleeping well past few nights and spent all of last night feeling really hot and shaky with dodgy belly thrown in for fun. Tried to go in today but didn't get further than the front door as felt so weak. Hope it's not going to be a regular occurrence.

Thanks dinky and cheese for both work and weight advice - feeling better on both counts. And hope you feel better soon cheese.

Hope Oliver is alright this morning shiv, have been thinking about you guys all day.

Thinkingof4 Tue 16-Apr-13 14:17:07

Sorry to all those not feeling well today. abzs I had my whooping cough vaccine yesterday and had a headache and felt a bit viral last night but ok today apart from really sore arm! Luckily I sleep on the other side so slept ok apart from accidentally setting my alarm for 6am instead of 7!! Pregnancy brain definitely taking hold

shiv hope you, dh and Oliver had ok night. Hope you are getting some rest and remembering to eat and drink xx

Cheeseandbread Tue 16-Apr-13 14:20:47

Thanks Dinky , glad the Pilates helped.

Sorry you are poorly too BB01 I am also hoping it is not going to be a regular occurrence... Hope you feel better soon.

I also seem to get braxton hicks quite a bit- anyone else?


Cheeseandbread Tue 16-Apr-13 14:22:45

X posts thanks Guava

Persuasion Tue 16-Apr-13 14:54:56

shiv our thoughts are still with you. As thinking said, make sure you and DH look after yourselves as well, it must be really tough.

Sorry for all the others with illness - I hope I haven't started the thread off badly shock I'm off work again today, and had to have the midwife round this morning because chip wasn't really moving. Obviously once I called the midwife she started up again, and although she's definitely a bit quieter than normal heartbeat was fine. I suspect all the bowel upset is not helping, and think she may have changed position, so I'm losing some of the movement to my anterior placenta. I'm taking tomorrow off sick as well, so as not to spread my nice virus around, and to make sure all is fine with chip, and I'm still actually feeling fairly yucky. Then I have thursday and friday as annual leave anyway, so no more work for me until monday! Unfortunately that means I'm going to be ridiculously busy next week catching up. cheese my cat is also loving all the time in bed keeping me company.

granny for the GTT, essentially I'd advise the same as dinky! It wasn't so bad as I thought, just very boring so take plenty to entertain yourself. And I'd recommend taking something to eat straight afterwards, especially if you're driving - I felt quite shaky until I'd eaten.

notprincesskate Tue 16-Apr-13 16:26:35

Good afternoon all, growth scan was good today, jumping bean seems to be following the right line and est weight is already 3lb 3oz, think I got a little chunk in there. BP didn't fair quite so well, seems to be heading up again, so weekly monitoring for me now.
Those that are having DC 2 or already have had, is anyone doing a 'breast feeding' box for older sibling to prevent jealously/sibling rivalry when feeding/doing essential things, if so what did/are you putting in it, we seem to be heading towards more terrible twos tantrums at the mo, so I'm thinking it might be a good idea, but I'm not sure what to get/how much I'm sure (like everything) I could spend a fortune so just looking for a few ideas.


dinkystinky Tue 16-Apr-13 16:58:03

Glad you had a good scan NotprincessKate. DS1 was 2 and 10 months when DS2 arrived - I kept hold of our nanny (because we know and love her and I really wanted her to look after DS2 when I went back to work - just reduced her hours for a bit) but it did make things tight financially while I was on maternity leave - however also meant DS1 was still doing his activities and getting out and about and DS2's arrival didnt impact on him and as a result he took it all really well in his stride. Other friends basically invested in sticker books, DVDs, toy babies and bottles, play kitchens and lots of CBeebies and seemed to do absolutely fine.

cheese I seem to get Braxton hicks quite a lot too.

notprincesskate glad your scan went well.

Anyone looking for reassurance re:weight gain, the pregnancy weight gain calculator gives a range of what your weight should be each week, depending on starting height & weight. Apparently I should've gained around a stone already!

shelley72 Tue 16-Apr-13 17:24:46

found you all! been thinking of shiv and hoping that oliver is alright today.

feel bad for posting given what shiv is going through but i am still feeling a bit rubbish. though it does seem that there are a lot of sickness bugs about. i now have a varicose vein and acid indigestion to add to my pregnancy glamour smile. i have been guzzling gaviscon like there's no tomorrow but its not making the slightest difference. anything and everything i eat - not huge meals either - and it starts up again. am not fancying food now at all sad.

notprincesskate i didnt do a BF box specifically with DS when DD was born but somehow he survived even though she fed a LOT. we kept to his usual nursery routine as we didnt want to change his little world any more than it already had been. i seem to remember also watching a lot of dinosaur documentaries and cbeebies! i think you also need to remember to make sure you have drinks / snacks / that they've been to loo before you sit down to feed. not quite sure how it will work this time around. i think the baby will just have to fit in feeds around school / nursery runs and other activities. i have been worrying thinking about this and i hope that i am going to be able to BF this baby when the time comes.

in other news, am nearly done with my hospital bag shopping. latest addition are some rather fetching post natal BIG pants from primark (2.50 for 4!). DH said that they are so gorgeous that he may not need the snip now after all - the pants should work just fine grin

Just found this thread, im due 20th July and to be honest im really quite new to mumsnet, am i okay to just drop into this thread? smile Sorry for a probably quite silly post wink

Runswithsquirrels Tue 16-Apr-13 18:30:55

Hello Icing and welcome.

Thank you smile so am i right in thinking this is a thread for people who are due in July just to chat about their pregnancies?

VinegarDrinker Tue 16-Apr-13 18:45:14

Yes, exactly Icing - we batter about all sorts! Add yourself to the due date list too - link in the first post. Welcome!

29 weeks today and feeling BIG!

VinegarDrinker Tue 16-Apr-13 19:01:18

NATTER not batter!

Haha thank you I'll go and do that now smile
Cannot wait to be 29 weeks! Getting into the 30's will be amazing! I'm 26+3 and feeling like my bump hasn't grown for 3 weeks! Although three weeks ago it did a spectacular show of growing enormous overnight confused

Cutandstick Tue 16-Apr-13 19:15:51

Shelley have you tried the gaviscon dual action (something like that) I find the single stuff doesn't cut it for crazy acid but the dual action does work (shame the doc prescribed the other one!) I gobble quite a few over night - not sure what state my teeth will be in once pregnancy is over?!!

Cheeseandbread Tue 16-Apr-13 19:31:00

Welcome icing We are due date buddies smile

Totally glad it's not just me with the braxton hicks- for me they are quite regular- a few times a day, normally I notice it more when I'm resting. It feels so hard I hope bean is ok in there confused

Persuasion glad your cat is keeping you company smile

notprincess glad your bean is growing nicely.

SlouchingPanda Tue 16-Apr-13 19:47:46

Evening all, and welcome Icing - congratulations!

Excellent batter/natter autocorrect fail, Vinegar although to be fair from the amount of pancake chat this weekend, batter is just as accurate.

I am completely exhausted after a shitty weekend. Got home from work and lovely DH has just bought me new fancy shampoo, run me a bath, brought me a tonic & lime, filled my car with petrol and started the dinner. He is a marvel. The situation could only be improved with actual gin.

Junior moves all over, and constantly - lots of weird wriggling top right and really low down kicks too.

Otherwise all is well. Bump feels massive, got a good-going linea nigra and to whoever was asking about tightenings I get a LOT. Worse on doing stuff, better when resting. Perhaps a sign that 12h on calls should be stopped (that, and the weekend was totally hideous)...

Thoughts and prayers with Team Shiv - anyone heard anything today?


Welcome icing!

cheese my bump gets much smaller and oddly shaped when I get a BH, which makes me worry about the bean getting too squished in there. Pretty sure it's normal enough though.

dinkystinky Tue 16-Apr-13 21:07:42

Welcome Icing - hope all going well with your pregnancy.

Slouching - so sorry you had a tough weekend. Your DH sounds truly lovely though - glad he's looking after you! My tightenings have died down but got loads of BH really early on - esp when cold. Seemed worse when didnt keep well hydrated so make sure you're drinking lots of fluids. Am with you on missing the gin..

Went to pregnancy yoga tonight - all of a sudden there are 3 of us who started at the same time all around the 29 week (me on Thursday)/30/31 week stage - making it all feel v real and v soon. I still had the biggest bump of all 3 - even rivalling the 40 week pregnant woman there . Ho hum.

No news from Team Shiv - am hoping no news is good news and means they're getting a day of sleep after what must have been another sleepless night and sending hugs and support in their direction.

Cheeseandbread Tue 16-Apr-13 21:46:30

slouching your DH sounds like a star! Sorry you had a bad weekend.

totally my bump goes funny shaped and slightly smaller too.

dinky pregnancy yoga and Pilates- well done you! I have found a local pregnancy yoga class I might start going to.

MightBeMad Tue 16-Apr-13 21:48:30

Am away with limited reception but just checking in for any news from shiv.

VinegarDrinker Tue 16-Apr-13 21:49:30

Boo to crappy weekends Slouching - any idea when you are stopping long days? I find weekends in many ways worse than nights. Yay for your DH though.

I really wish I could find a pregnancy yoga/pilates thingy but round here they all seem to be on in the daytime which is no use to me at all. Do women who work not get pregnant?!

dinkystinky Tue 16-Apr-13 21:55:15

Vinegar whereabouts in London are you? I'm v lucky as there is a yoga studio literally around the corner from my house that does an early evening class on Tuesdays - on the rare lazy Sunday we have I also head over to Triyoga in primrose hill for a class with my old pregnancy yoga teacher from when I was pregnant with ds1 and ds2 - mostly because she has become a friend over the years.

SlouchingPanda Tue 16-Apr-13 22:21:23

Thanks all. DH is certainly a keeper wink but I suspect the gold medal husband activity might be connected to the fact that he wants to buy a new road bike!

I'm stopping nights at 30wk and have gamely suggested long days/weekends until 35wk. Might rethink that though as I am totally wrecked. In bed by 2130. It's a rock & roll life!

Dinky what's your gin of choice? I really miss it. And wine. I wish I were one of those pregnant women who totally go off booze, but honestly - not drinking is agony! <not an alcoholic, honest!>

Supershiv1 Tue 16-Apr-13 22:57:49

Hi guys.
I am reading this thread, just find it difficult to keep friends/family/all of Olivers army updated so have chosen the FB group as I can add photo's.
Keep chatting about your pregnancies (dinky -it makes me laugh that I wss due to start aqua natal on Sunday!).
One of the reasons I am updating you is if it helps any of you guys recognise some of the symptoms and get to fullnterm then all the better.
Can domeon

Supershiv1 Tue 16-Apr-13 22:59:27

Doh! Can someone post across my update for non FBers?
Ps boobs are massive!!!! Who knew manual expression was so bloody hard.

As requested - update from shiv:

Hi. Between being with Oliver and trying to express milk, today has been very busy. He has got through another 24 hrs, but the bleed has impacted his brain and it's nigh on 100% likely if he survives he will have neurological problems.
I can't believe someone so small has so much obvious personality. One of the consultants has nicknamed him 'little fighter' and you can really tell everyone is rooting for him.
DH and I refer to you all as 'Olivers army' and the support and encouragement for Oliver really keeps us going. Xxx

Runswithsquirrels Wed 17-Apr-13 04:42:25

Proud to be in Oliver's Army!
Woke up with leg cramp and I couldn't relax until I checked how he was doing ( am in bed closer to seven than 2130 sigh - hay fever + 3rd trimester...). So pleased to hear he's fighting strong. He's constantly in my thoughts, as are you Shiv and Mr Shiv. Lots of love x x x

Cheeseandbread Wed 17-Apr-13 05:55:59

We are all behind the little fighter here shiv!


photographerlady Wed 17-Apr-13 06:10:57

I hope the night went well for you and the family shiv.

Morning everyone. I just wanted to share that M&P jeans are the most comfortable things I have found. I never thought I like low bump expanded (no band) but they don't roll down and they are such high quality. I think need some maternity tops now.

I must be huge this week as everyone at work keeps talking about my pregnancy. We had a power cut in the morning so few of us went for a walk up central London for an hour or so and everyone kept asking if I was ok...I am not waddling that much already am I?

VinegarDrinker Wed 17-Apr-13 07:44:15

Thinking of you all and Oliver this morning, shiv

dinky I'm East, ironically there is a yoga studio 2 minutes from me but no evening antenatal classes. Ah well, maybe I can join for a few weeks when I start mat leave if they coincide with a nursery day.

VinegarDrinker Wed 17-Apr-13 07:47:41

Slouching I did that last time with long days, managed fine actually but if you can bring it forward, I would. I'd be surprised if your colleagues actually want you running the LW at that stage, or maybe I have just been lucky with my colleagues/Consultants.

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 07:59:16

Thanks for the update Shiv - Oliver is indeed a little fighter. He's a bantam weight champ for sure! Good luck with the expressing - I was told being near, or looking at a photo of your baby, can help with the let down. Not sure if its true but must be worth a go. Sending love, hugs and white light for strength and support to you Oliver and DH.

Slouching - tanqueray is my favourite. I miss it! I also miss wine and cocktails - have had a handful of thimblefuls of wine in second trimester with meals but its not really the same! Am trying to get dh to drink beers and ales which I don't like so I don't get envious looking at him in the evenings.

Vinegar - that's annoying revtye studio. There are pregnancy yoga apps and websites and dvds which you can use yourself if you're a self starter - I am not so need classes to make me do it!

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 09:04:59

Ps the present to Bean from DS1 (who is star wars obsessed) and DS2 (who is R2D2 obsessed) arrived today - check it out

esme80 Wed 17-Apr-13 09:37:24

shiv I am thinking of you all, and am praying for your Little Fighter!

I also had trouble finding aquanatal classes, the local leisure centre has one class a week and it was in the middle of the day! I am a SAHM, which means I have a toddler to take care of during the day!

I am getting a little stressed out reading about hospital bag prep etc, I have dont nothing! Dont want to get anything down from the loft as we are not finished decorating, so babys room is a tip,at the moment! Dont want to add to the mess! Should be done in another 2 weeks or so... However, I am getting the pushchair today, very excited!

dinky I LOVE that robot outfit, I must buy it to surprise my star wars mad DH!

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 09:54:03

Esme - aren't you going for a home birth? If so, hospital bag is just a precaution - just put to one side a few things which can be chucked in a bag if need be. Ocado have lansinoh breast pads with a third off ATM - if you shop with them just bung that and a pack of newborn nappies in your next order. Then all you need are some mat pads and clothes for bubba and you're sorted!

I haven't even started thinking about a hospital bag! I'd better remember to chuck some maternity pads in the trolley next time I'm shopping, just in case. We have the small matter of a house move before due date, so I was going to leave it until after then. Last time I was induced and just packed a bag the night before after spending the weekend panic buying a crib, nappies and tiny baby grows.

I'll be doing on call days until I finish work at 36+2, but although they're pretty manic, it's only an 11 hour shift and I'm only doing 1-2 on call days a week.

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 10:08:12

Vinegar - there may be some evening pregnancy yoga options here www.hackneyholistichealing.co.uk/yoga_london.html

bigbelly4 Wed 17-Apr-13 10:10:40

Oh dear, just popped into the co-op to pick up some milk and doughnuts are on offer - so gues what i'm having for breakfast!?

Shiv - glad you have all survived another night, I am rooting for Oliver and proud to be in his Army!

Supposed to be having a day with my DH today but he appears to have done a disapearing act!

Really uncomfy at night now and finding my dream geani pillow really uncomfy - strange as i loved it early on! I am usually a belly sleeper so finding it tough not to be able to. But have about 8 pillows last night made a nest and was on all fours - lovely!

Glad Oliver is still doing well. Can I join FBI gp? Don't know how.
I have reached 30 weeks today and am super tired - hilarious dinky your reaction to tiredness is to exercise more, mine is to put 5 episodes of fireman Sam on and cat nap on sofa with ds .i have been having massive b h contractions when am tired or do lots. Pretty extreme, may phone mw but they are pretty relaxed about it I think. Meanwhile, our cat ( Norma lavender bob the builder Hoover Hancock Paul book) is stuck on the roof of neighbours house 4 doors down and 2 storeys high. Firemen won't come unless RSPCA ask them, RSPCA said I need to coax her down...this is tricky particularly as she must have jumped between 2 of the houses to get to where she is- hmm, so much for fireman Sam!

wifey6 Wed 17-Apr-13 10:53:33

Talking of hospital bags - I've washed all baby's clothes etc today & have packed his hospital bagsmile the rest has gone in to DS1 wardrobe which they will be sharing.
Have most of my toiletries packed & a few bits but that's my next mission smile

Cheeseandbread ahhh the race is on!! Haha

Thinking of Shiv and family, everyone's rooting on your little fighter xx

Oh no, I wanted to start my hospital bag but as my contract at work is finished I'm now home all the time and trying to spread things out, I wrote a list of what needs to go into it, got to be organised wink and my OH has told me to hold off until 30 weeks, so 3 weeks and 3 days if I calculated it right!

We got the cot now, wanted to get it while there was an offer on so a little early but I'm glad we did because it's one big spend off the list. Picking up the travel system next weekend - a nice present from Aunt and Uncle. Considering buying little miniature bottles of body wash etc. for hospital but don't know if it'll be a waste.

Going to weigh myself for the first time since week 18 today, lost weight in first trimester because of loss of appetite and sickness and now I'm pretty sure I've put on a stone! I feel huge sad

Haven't been feeling any BH but reading all of your messages I don't think it'll be long! I'm really nervous! Haha. Hope everyone is holding up well! grin

BB01 Wed 17-Apr-13 11:40:09

Sorry, not many name checks apart from Shiv - you and your OH are doing so well to stay so focused and just hope as others have said that you are able to look after yourselves as well as your little one. He looks so beautiful and I hope so much things work out for him.

I am getting BH quite a lot now. It is so hard sometimes. My mum chose the moment I was getting them to put her hand on my belly (I did say she could have a feel as baby had been kicking and then it started as she put her hand on!). Think she thought what on earth is in there?!

Dinky and Slouching, the further I get the more I crave a G&T or a glass of wine. I find the wine craving easier as I can get my fix with a few sips of DH's (it's more about the taste than the fuzziness for me at the mo) or half a glass on a special occasion. But with the gin, DH doesn't touch it and I am a fan of v strong g&ts. Funnily enough, having said that, I do find that a glass of ice cold tonic water does kind of hit the same spot.

iclaudius Wed 17-Apr-13 11:47:53

Weight gain again !! I'm obsessed have hit a stone now - started nine 7 now ten 7. ....I didn't lose an ounce first trimester - not fair!! I'm five foot 7 but seem to have tiny bump but two large bumps on my back!!

Big belly the discovery !! I REALLY want a defender but dp is adamant I'll hate it - he would get disco but is worried about the tiny boot as we need all 5 seats up!

Volvo are doing AMAZINg deals on xc90 as I think the model is being updated so if I had four or less bairns I'd plump for that

I think we will end up with a caravels again - love it but no fun!!

Please do not start talking snout hospital bags - waaaau too early ( south to do!)

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 11:53:26

We have an xc90 - reckon its fine for 3 kids for regular use but if all in car seats/boosters would prefer something with easier access if I had 4.

Princess - hope you get your cat down safely! Am snorting at the thought of you having to holler all those names at your neighbours roof.

Just weighed myself, right at the top end of the recommended gain, not too bad but going to cut back on all the naughty treats ive been having, out at a friends for dinner tonight but hes doing us lamb chops, mash and veg, so not that bad! I'm making a cake to take for dessert but I don't really like cakes so won't be tempted by that, thank god!

iclaudius Wed 17-Apr-13 12:18:10

Not like cake <faints>

Ahh only because I used to eat it so often I think, if it helps I like pretty much any other sweet food! grin

photographerlady Wed 17-Apr-13 14:29:07

Yay talks of hospital bags! Times flying by and I already have the baby bag packed. Mine is missing lots but I am we'll stocked in comfy maternity clothes now. Feel ashamed to admit but I am counting down the weeks til mat leave so I can enjoy those pregnancy yoga pants (6 weeks to go!).

Btw. It's super hot in London today. Phew.

esme80 Wed 17-Apr-13 14:35:57

dinky I am planning a homebirth, the hospital bag is just in case really. I suppose its just that when I was pg with ds I was so prepared! I had llists and knew everything I needed to buy and pack etc. This time Ive barely thought about it! Although Im pretty sure Ill only have about a quarter of the stuff in the hospital bag I did last time, went a bit crazy with it!

Now whats this about not liking cake? Think I might have to bake something this afternoon when ds wakes up...

Oh and got my donkey! Yay! Cant wait to try it out tomorrow!

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 14:59:39

Don't worry Esme you have plenty of time to sort it. Yay for the donkey.

Icing - a stone at this stage is fine. I went to a school where eating disorders were rampant and lost a couple of good friends to anorexia - as a result I'm very much of the opinion that a strong healthy body and mine are far more important than what it says on the scales, especially in pregnancy. Don't beat yourself up about it iclaudius - no good for you to be worrying about it as if you're putting on weight its what your body and this pregnancy needs it to do.

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 15:00:16

That should say Mind not mine! Fricking autocorrect!

cheekbyjowl Wed 17-Apr-13 15:18:38

iclaudius I stand by you in disorganised solidarity. the only baby item I have is one pair of white socks grin

icing I don't like a lot of cakes - cant stand cream, nuts or chocolate, don't like icing etc. but I love plain vanilla sponge, ginger cake and a nice fruit cake. I like some lemony cakes too. I'm a very fussy cake eater. I don't believe a person who says they don't like any cakes - I think there's a cake out there for everyone. grin

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 16:15:32

Ugh fruit cake - DH loves it, I loathe it. Its my cake nemesis.

I love banana cake though...

Charlottemerwiak Wed 17-Apr-13 16:37:48

Can I join in please ladies. I'm due 10-07-13 but was 13 days overdue with ds1 and 10 days over with dd2. So who knows this time.

Welcome charlotte. Add yourself to the stats thread too (link at top)

Mmmmm. Banana cake.

Runswithsquirrels Wed 17-Apr-13 16:41:01

I love cake. LOVE it. And chocolate. And ice cream. And anything like that. I became vegan just before falling pregnant which has probably saved me stones as vegan cake and treats take more tracking down! Although tonight I am making more cookies!

Runswithsquirrels Wed 17-Apr-13 16:41:34

Welcome Charlotte

cheekbyjowl Wed 17-Apr-13 16:50:33

I might regret posting this but I looked in the mirror this.morning and im getting titties like my grandma sad ..will pinky and perky ever return?

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 16:52:46

Lol Cheek. You will stop looking like an octogenarian but mine have never quite as pert as they were pre-pregnancy. Mind you, good bras go along way towards hiding that fact!

Hiya Charlotte, welcome smile

Okay to be fair i quite like chocolate cake but it has to be 'just right' unfortunately the person whos house were going around can't stand chocolate cake?! (I didnt realise these people existed) but i might have got myself a sneaky pack of jaffa cakes for my dessert wink practically healthy with that orange jelly! Haha

Baby seems to have moved around and where i was feeling kicks lower left now its all the right side and lower bump? Strange...

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 16:53:20

P.s. Welcome Charlotte - hope all is going well with your pregnancy. As Totally said, stick your details on the stats list.

Abzs Wed 17-Apr-13 17:25:49

I do have a strange hankering for victoria sponge at the moment. Just not quite enough to attempt to make one.

I'm also drawn to things that smell cementy. Thankfully not quite enough to lick the new fireplace though it's been close.

If you with the cravings i think your better off making a cake �� x

PhieEl06 Wed 17-Apr-13 17:59:15

Evening ladies, sorry for poor amount of name checks & not being caught up with subjects but just wanted to say hi! Welcome icing & charlotte, I'm another due on 20th icing yay! grin

Thinking of shiv & family, so proud to be part of Oliver's Army!
Starting to feel extremely uncomfortable now, driving is a real task, my insides are feeling squished & the right side of my ribs are getting a right beating!
Hope you're all well & having a nice day! smile 26+4

Ahhh! Be exciting to see how close they really are together grin ive not felt any kickings near my ribs or even that close really sad got another scan next thursday though (4d) so hopefully that should help calm me down a bit! Probably just bottom down like a naughty baby grin

photographerlady Wed 17-Apr-13 18:11:11

We are cake addicts too in my house. Making a banana nut bread this weekend. Rule of the house: if you want cake then you have to bake it. We thought it cut down on cake, I mean it did for a while as store bought was out the picture but then my husband mastered the sponge.

SundaySunshine Wed 17-Apr-13 18:25:20

Mmmm cake, I've just had an apricot and almond Danish for my starter course grin the meal will get healthier for the main, but will probably descend into a shameful pit of tiramisu lust for afters!

Cheeseandbread Wed 17-Apr-13 18:58:58

Welcome Charlotte smile

Hmmmmmmmm cake! I want some now and have none in the house...

We reserved our Uppababy Vista in red today from John Lewis- very excited grin we are going to pick it up during half term.


SundaySunshine Wed 17-Apr-13 19:00:07

Lol cheek. If I lean forward I can rest my enormous boobs on my enormous bump grin who needs bras! Not so good for general posture though!

Thinkingof4 Wed 17-Apr-13 19:55:56

Thanks for the update re shiv glad to be part of Oliver's army

Welcome icing and Charlotte

Hospital bags packed shock shock
I haven't even thought about it yet, I plan to do mine when I finish work which will be about 36 weeks! I just can't think about it yet, as soon as I see all those tiny wee babygros I will be a blubbering mess and I need to remain calm for a while yet!

Re cars I would happily get a xc90 but dh has a hatred of all things Volvo and won't even consider it hmm irrational man!

I'm feeling super exhausted at night now, don't know if it's just adjusting being back at work after holiday or whether my blooming stage has withered!

Hope everyone is feeling a bit better today, my sore arm (post whooping cough vaccine) is fine today so I only really felt a bit unwell for a day or 2, not too bad really

All this talk of cake and the closest thing I can find in the house is a raisin bake elevenses bar. With all the extra vitamins & minerals it's far too virtuous to count as cake. I can't be arsed to bake anything myself (and I'm worried I lack the self control required to not eat the whole thing anyway if I did). I need an easy recipe to make just one or two cupcakes at a time.

AmaDablam Wed 17-Apr-13 20:07:17

Mmm Danish pastry for starters Sunday sounds like my kind of meal smile

You all sound so organised with hospital bags etc. I have a few bits shoved in the bottom of the wardrobe for mine, but no where near everything and it will probably be a while before it progresses into being in an actual bag. On thing I have been thinking about is we are going away for just under a week at the end of May (in the UK) when I'll be 32 weeks. Would it be a sensible idea to take "The Bag" with us just in case?

Re. antenatal yoga/pilates I found the cost prohibitive in my area - sorry but I just can't justify £15 a class, plus one lot clashed with our NCT classes that start in a couple of weeks. However, someone (sorry can't remember who and I think we were only on about thread 3 by then) suggested the "10 minute solution" prenatal pilates DVD which I have found excellent. You probably need to have done a bit of pilates before as it doesn't give much explanation for some of exercises and I miss out the "core" section as it just doesn't seem right to be doing sit up type exercises, but otherwise highly recommended.

Feeling really sicky today. Hope it's not the return of MS confused...


Beginningofthejourney Wed 17-Apr-13 20:11:10

Evening everyone,
Hope little Oliver has had a good day and continuing to defy those doctors!

I met with my boss today to update risk assessment and discus my mat leave, hoping to not actually start mat leave til 8th July (bubba due on 11th!) but having AL before that so actually finishing on 14th June, which is only 8 weeks away on fri! This is all creeping up quite quickly smile I might have to do 1 more on call week but boss said if its a heavy week or I'm tired they will share my week with the rest of team.

I did a bit of a yoga DVD yesterday and back did feel a bit better today its call pregnancy health yoga with Tara Lee. Need to build up to doing the full 70mins before I can report on it properly but I like it so far if anyone is looking for a DVD.

Sorry long post! Should post more often! smile

VinegarDrinker Wed 17-Apr-13 20:25:32

I packed my hospital bag in labour last time, then didn't even open it til he was born. All I really needed was one of everything (clothes and nappy) for him and knickers for me although I was in NHS ones with a vaginal pack in for the first 24 hours following PPH

We stayed for 3 days but DH could have, and did, bring most of what we needed from home on a daily basis.

MrsMillions Wed 17-Apr-13 20:40:51

Evening ladies (and Paolo if you're still about)

I was busy with parents at the weekend so missed the end of thread 6 and Oliver's arrival...lots of love Team Shiv, I'm thinking of you all.

Dinky (I think) thanks for the tip up thread about maternity coat and sling.

I've seen my belly move through my clothes today, very strange.

We are picking up our crib at the weekend then will be heading to ASDA baby event to stock up. DH has stocked up on household stuff this evening so we shouldn't run out of dishwasher tablets or loo roll for months. Also now have non bio washing liquid to wash the hand-me-downs we've been given for the baby.

I'm loving cake. Nearly finished the big apple and walnut one (Mary Berry special) I made for the parental visit. Have been eating with a scoop of ice-cream for added calcium as I'm not a milk fan. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. Now what to bake next?!


emblosion Wed 17-Apr-13 20:45:53

Found you all!

Just checking in to say shiv and family you are in my thoughts and prayers- keep fighting baby O x

vinegar I didn't even open my hospital bag when I was in labour either! I packed snacks and everything (they did come in handy over the next few days though).

All this talk of lovely cars is making me v jealous! Id love a Nissan quashqai, not sure if the budget will stretch though...


All this talk of cake!!! I'm with you totally, I just eat it all too quickly as I have no DC to share them with (yetsmile) and DP is a savoury rather than sweet kind of guy. A recipe for 2 cupcakes sounds perfect!

Beginning I finish on the 14th June too - counting down the weeks now!

dinkystinky Wed 17-Apr-13 20:57:19

Another one finishing on 14 June here - cant wait!

Cutandstick Wed 17-Apr-13 21:41:10

How big a bag do you use for your hospital bag? I've not even thought about it yet! Ah!

VinegarDrinker Wed 17-Apr-13 21:48:35

I used a small wheely suitcase for me, and just changing bag type thing with few nappies and babygros for DS, but as mentioned, most of it didn't get used!

I did initially pack snacks .... but raided them a couple of days before going into labour and didn't get time to replace them blush - it was easy enough for DH to grab stuff on the way in though.

Cheeseandbread Wed 17-Apr-13 21:48:38

I'm down to finish 14 of June too- feeling uber tired already... Paperwork seems to be increasing rather than decreasing at the moment... sad

Guava my DH is more savoury than sweet too so I too could do with that recipe Totally

VinegarDrinker Wed 17-Apr-13 21:56:57

That post makes it sound like we stopped off for chocolate while I was in labour! I meant when he came back in to visit the next couple of days!

MarieKL Wed 17-Apr-13 21:59:15

Just catching up after a few busy weeks. Shiv thank you so much for keeping us all updated. You, Mr Shiv and Oliver are in my prayers, and I'm humbled to be part of Oliver's Army.

BigBelly4 I'm with you on the doughnuts. Had one for breakfast, followed by chocolate cake a colleague brought in for my mid morning snack. It's no wonder I've put on about a stone and a half, but I'm with Dinky on it being far more important to be physically and mentally healthy. Just a shame the couch is more attractive at the moment smile

I haven't even thought about my hospital bag yet. Had 2
Bags last time. One for labour and one for stay on the ward. Better get organised. Both about the size of an overnight bag so it fits in the small cabinet by the hospital beds.

Hope everyone else is okay and welcome to everyone joining us.

iclaudius Thu 18-Apr-13 00:49:08

Just remove red a really good tip for hospital . Open a bottle of spring water top the top fifth out. Freeze. When in labour grab bottle and have lively iced water for at least twelve hours. I did it last time after reading it on MN and it was fab!!!

photographerlady Thu 18-Apr-13 06:42:13

Good tip iclaudis I was toying with taking a cool bag just full of frozen bottled water and juice. Hospitals are ever so swampy aren't they? Even this time of year they just are so warm and humid.

I am usually always chilly but the last two weeks I slept duvetless for the first time ever. I think I have the pregnancy sweats. sad

AmaDablam Thu 18-Apr-13 07:19:40

Just a really quick one to say Shiv has posted on FB again last night - Oliver is still hanging in there and had a relatively stable 24 hours. It must be so unbelievably hard - thinking of them all.

cogitosum Thu 18-Apr-13 07:24:19

Hi I posted a bit earlier on but not in ages. I'm due 12th July. Can I join?

Sorry to see someone's come early very early glad he's stable

MrsMillions Thu 18-Apr-13 08:16:52

I got carried away with my weeks last night and added an extra one on! 28 today.

I'm finishing on June 14th also. 1 week and 3 odd days of annual leave plus 2 bank holidays between now and then.

Grrr to the gales that kept me awake last night, and another grrr to whoever left an empty diet coke can on our communal drive area, it was rattling around very noisily. Muchos chocolate and cake required today I think.

Morning all!

Welcome, cogito

DD has had me awake all night. She's been suck with a fever, horrible cough and conjunctivitis and can't stay asleep. She keeps crying out and has cough-vomitted a few times, so can't be ignored. I took her into my bed and we snuggled up but then she rolled off the edge of the bed over the pillow I'd put to stop her blush so I spent the rest of the night on high alert keeping hold of her. I don't think she managed to sleep for more than a 20 minute stretch all night.

BB01 Thu 18-Apr-13 08:50:52

I like the iced water tip, especially as I keep craving icy drinks ATM! Cheers iClaudius!

Good news about Oliver still hanging in there!

totallyeggsflipped oh no! Hope your dd is feeling better today and not a bug?

Just to let you guys know 50g butter, 50g caster sugar, 50g self raising flour a drop of vanilla and 1 egg will make 3 large cupcakes smile im starting to want more savoury foods today, i hope this is a good thing as wanting to scoff sweets all the time wasnt good for making my face look less fat... Haha

Had some kicks just below my ribs today grin so happy! Cannot wait to see where she is on the scan though!

Hope everyones keeping well xx

Thanks icing! DD loves making cakes but a whole batch is far to much for me us to eat. (DD isn't quite as interested in eating them as making them yet and only likes 'brown' (chocolate) cake) 3 cakes sounds much more manageable and we can bake more often. grin

wifey6 Thu 18-Apr-13 09:26:28

totally...hope your DD gets better soon - poor little one.
Love the cake info! Also the tips on ice-drinks!
Wonderful news that baby Oliver is hanging in there. Little fighter. envy

dinkystinky Thu 18-Apr-13 09:51:04

Ah poor DD Totally - really hope she gets better soon and you and she both get some rest today. There seem to be some horrible bugs doing the rounds. Top tip for kids in bed - folded up double duvet next to the bed helps cushion the blow when they inevitably fall out - DS2 did this all the time when he was in bed with us and the duvet stopped the wailing!

Welcome Cogito - stick your due date and other info on the stats thread (see first link in first post on the thread). Hope all going well with your pregnancy so far.

Iced water tip is great Iclaudius - its what we do on holiday when going to the beach but for some reason never thought of it for labour! And lets face it, hospitals/birth centres are as warm as beaches, if not more humid!

Wonderful news re Oliver having a stable 24 hours - I really hope this is the start of him bouncing from strength to strength. I also hope it meant you all managed to get some food and sleep last night Shiv. Hugs and strength to Team Shiv x

Had a fun start to work this morning with the tube down and local station closed - quick mile and a half route march to Thameslink followed by 40 minute exercise class and am just about ready for bed again. Ho hum.

GeorgieWilson Thu 18-Apr-13 10:57:07

Ahhh am having a catch up reading since yesterday and all I can think about now is cake! I'm sitting at my desk starving! grin
Re yoga I got a set of pregnancy dvd's off amazon, they were exercise, yoga, Pilates and post natal exercise. I would definitely recommend them, by Erin somebody (I'll check)
Nine weeks left for me at work and counting - finishing two weeks before I'm due.
Measured over the 95th centile at the midwifes this week - please reassure me that it's all guesswork and doesn't mean baby Georgie will be huge!
All the talk about cars is interesting too - I've just about accepted that my beloved z4 is not baby suitable but have no idea what to replace it with!
Glad to hear Oliver is still fighting - sending lots of wishes and prayers.

dinkystinky Thu 18-Apr-13 11:04:06

Georgie - be reassured - it is guesswork and babies grow in fits and starts at different times, if your baby is 95 percentile now it may have had a growth spurt so is ahead of the curve and will drop back down. And re cars - we kept our 2 door mini cooper when we had ds1. Only traded up to a bigger car a month before Ds2 was born. And our minicooper took us on driving holidays in France/camping etc. It can be done if you dont want to change your car if you've just got the one coming along...

Esme - if you go for the R2D2 outfit (which I recommend as it is soooooooooo cute) beware they size for small babies - I reckon the 6 month one I got will work well on a chunky newborn.

bigbelly4 Thu 18-Apr-13 12:47:09

Morning ladies!

RE hospital bags - PLEASE do not panic about them. Yes its good to have a few creature comforts but the hospital is not going to make you walk around starkers because you havent packed a nightie! Or god forbid dribble baby slime because you forgot your pads.

If baby comes early (pre 37 weeks), in all likelyhood you wont need your babys stuff as early babies are not usually dressed in anyhting other than nappy (which hosp provide) and then kept warm in incubator.

Everything can be bought pretty easily now and partners can always dash out and pick bits up.

I'm a quick birther and didnt have my bag with me with my 3rd - and TBH it was the last hing on my mind - the hospital lent me babygrow/vest nappy untill my hubby went home and bought our bits in from home.

Anywho, got my 28 week MW appointment this afternoon so trying to be good and eat healthily (appart from the cupcake breakfast, Shhhh dont tell!) and drinking pints of water.

re cars - think we have decided on the discovery, although have looked at XC90 but its just not big enough for 4 kids/fat labrador and all things baby ( sounds stupid i know!). I'm happy with the disco as love it my only bubare is the tax is £490 a year!!!!!!!!! I'm actually a bit of a greeny but we do live and work on farm so 4x4 is quite essential - kind of broke my old citreon by driving over fields, not that i did it on purpose (honnest!)


dinkystinky Thu 18-Apr-13 13:09:44

Ama - to echo bigbelly, when I'm going on holiday at end of May in the UK (counting down the days already - not as much as DH who cant wait to go to Legoland) I'm only going to take my maternity notes with me - will have clothes etc for the week away and everything else can be bought/sourced from somewhere nearby if need be.

Bigbelly - think you made the right choice on cars. I just cant see how an xc90 can fit 4 kids, a dog, buggy and lots of shopping in it without lots of clever packing...

Thinkingof4 Thu 18-Apr-13 13:47:19

Hi all, glad to hear Oliver is stable, every day he must be getting a little stronger

All this talk of cars has finally made it sink in that by mid July I'll have 4 kids - bloody hell!! Anyone else having a wee panic about how they'll cope with another one?
I saw the most chilled baby ever at work yesterday, she's just 8 weeks and has slept through the night pretty much from day 1. Can I have one like that please?!

I agree with bigbelly re hospital bags, unless you live miles away then dh can always bring extra stuff in if needed. One thing I would recommend is to have a small selection of clothes kept separate at home in case you end up staying in longer than you expect. I was in for a week with ds1 and had to ask dh to bring me extra clothes, which he picked out himself. His choices were, umm well interesting and not at all what I would have actually chosen, so I'll be leaving a specific pile of clothes to be brought in if I need to stay.
Having said that I had 6 hour discharge with ds3 which is pretty standard up here and I will hopefully do the same again this time as I'll be desperate to get home to see my boys

SundaySunshine Thu 18-Apr-13 13:52:25

Hi All,

Great to hear Team Shiv have had a positive 24hrs. Team Sunday are proudly waving our Oliver's Army flags and sending best wishes and strength vibes to you all thanks

For cake emergencies here's one you can whip up in five minutes:
cake in a coffee cup

My hospital bag is a plastic Boots carrier bag at present, with totally random things stuffed in it. But first on my list was nipple cream - first timers beware, BF might be a bit painful to begin with whilst little one is getting the knack of it, but stick with it if you can as it's totally worthwhile in the long run IMHO.

29 + 6 wow just 10 wks to go tomorrow ( grin shock confused in that order!!! )

CitizenOscar Thu 18-Apr-13 14:04:44

Just realised I forgot to ask midwife about whooping cough vaccination this morning! I'm meant to have next gp appointment at 33/34 weeks - do you reckon I should just wait til then?

SundaySunshine Thu 18-Apr-13 14:11:02

I could be wrong but I thought you were supposed to have it at about 35+ wks - best check with someone more knowledgeable than me though...

dinkystinky Thu 18-Apr-13 14:20:47

GP told me I have it from any point from 28 weeks onwards - I have my next GP appt at 31 weeks so guess I'll find out then.

Supershiv1 Thu 18-Apr-13 14:39:16

Just a quickie looks around and dares not hope beyond hope as something positive is nearly always followed by something negative, Oliver had his first breast milk at lunch through a tiny weeny tube. I was there and it made his toes curl! (Hopefully in a good way).

That's brilliant Shiv, I am glad he is coming on. smile


SundaySunshine Thu 18-Apr-13 15:04:02

Great news Shiv what a little trooper grin

dinkystinky Thu 18-Apr-13 15:16:05

Ah Shiv that's fab news - those toes were curling in delight! Well done you! He'll be so looking forward to the next taste x

Twinklestarstwinklestars Thu 18-Apr-13 15:33:43

The whooping cough jab is between 28 and 38 weeks, I'm hopefully getting mine done next week when I have gtt and bloods done.

Hi everyone. smile

My driving instructor and I have decided that I am taking my test end of June/start of July.

Panicking but I might be a driver by the time DS2 is here. grin

Brilliant news, shiv that's really made me smile.

Ahhhh that's so good shiv how lovely for you smile

Went to get remeasured for a maternity bra today, last time i went the lady told me to just buy more underwired in a new size if i still found them comfortable and come back again when they weren't, so went back and the woman who measured me was really nasty about it saying 'don't you know how BAD underwires are?!!' And also kept giving me and OH nasty looks which i can only presume is because of our age, considering this was in a mothercare i thought they'd be more sympathetic to hormonal pregnant women! Had to leave in the end, was so close to tears sad

dinkystinky Thu 18-Apr-13 16:36:05

Wouldn't bother getting measured in mother care Icing - they are woeful at it. Under wired bras are fine so long as they aren't digging in or restricting you or making your boobs hurt at all - its only really in late pregnancy you want to move to proper nursing/mat bras without under wire as comfort becomes paramount then. If you have a bravissimo near you, go there - they are lovely and measure much better!

photographerlady Thu 18-Apr-13 16:44:48

aww shiv that's excellent!

wifey6 Thu 18-Apr-13 16:48:27

Aww shiv...that's amazing!! Aww how lovely smile smile

GeorgieWilson Thu 18-Apr-13 16:50:03

Brilliant news shiv!

Dinky keeping the car would have been my preference but unfortunately it wasn't fitted with the option to turn off the airbags so has to go!

SlouchingPanda Thu 18-Apr-13 17:24:24

Well done Shiv - it's great to hear that you are expressing for him.

I saw a 26 weeker born in the last few days. He was so teeny-tiny, and I was a pretty emotional thinking of Oliver and your family. Please do keep giving us updates when you have the time and strength. I hope you and your DH are looking after each other and managing some food and sleep. It's easy to forget to care for yourself in situations like this. I think you are enormously brave and strong.

I remain totally exhausted and had a letter from antenatal clinic telling me my haemoglobin is 8.5. I have a genetic anaemia trait, so am used to being about 10.5 but I think this drop has really pushed me over the edge in recent weeks. Sadly iron tablets won't help as my iron stores are fine. I think a little trip to occupational health is in order. I can't keep working current hours feeling like this. Thanks for the work tips, Vinegar... am ST2 so thankfully not running LW by myself quite yet!

No hospital bag here... I am planning to put stuff together around 32 weeks.

28+0 today grin and just about to have a nap.

Abzs Thu 18-Apr-13 17:44:17

Excellent news Shiv

I consulted Dr SIL re vaccine reaction, she asked midwife at her work who said two days lurgy is normal. Two days it was too, am fine today. Apparently my GP's practice nurse was being optimistic.

Dh has gone off for his first proper offshore rotation this morning. CatB and I have scowled out of the window at the windy weather and done some more cleaning. I am off to Englandshire tomorrow to see my family - banking on lunch at the posh services at Tebay to break the journey.

PhieEl06 Thu 18-Apr-13 17:54:16

Oh Shiv that's fantastic to hear, a really positive step! Still thinking of you, Oliver & MrShiv everyday! Sending love, hugs & positive thoughts! Xxxx
Sunday that cake in a cup looks amazing! Will have to try this later!

Icing you have reminded me of the need for me to go & get measured, falling out of my current bras!

Hope all is well with everyone, need to sort out Spocketta's things at some point, gathering way too much & have lost track of what we have! 26+5 I think confused

Cheeseandbread Thu 18-Apr-13 18:09:23

Yea Shiv grin so glad little Oliver is going well.

Icing sorry you had a bad bra experience, sounds like the lady was not very nice!

Schro whoop whoop for the driving test!


dinkystinky Thu 18-Apr-13 18:38:18

Schro - super exciting re your driving test!

Georgie - I agree babies and airbags don't go. Crazy you can't turn it off!

Slouching - no wonder you're tired. Is there anything that can be done to help the haemo levels or not really?

Abzs - hope you have a lovely trip to see family and dhs rotation passes quickly for you both.

dinky totally agree, wasn't even a proper fit just a whip around with a tape measure and off you pop, I used to work at m&s where the average bra fit took 30 minutes and you got everything you could want from there!

slouching oh thats not good but you know now what it is at least, you can demand sympathy from everyone at home now wink hope something can help though xxx

Devilforasideboard Thu 18-Apr-13 18:54:12

That's fantastic news Shiv! DH asks after Oliver so he now has at least one real soldier in his army smile

BB01 Thu 18-Apr-13 19:02:01

Schro great news re test. Best of luck!

Shiv how lovely. Must have been a very special moment

Icing that's crap you got treated like that. I've heard lots of different things re bras. At mo am wearing non underwired but I find them comfier. They're not special maternity ones though. My boobies are still too small for most maternity bras even though they feel huge compared to pre pregnancy!

SlouchingPanda Thu 18-Apr-13 19:18:57

Schro great news for your test! Surely no examiner would dare to fail a heavily pregnant woman wink.

Icing - sounds like crappy customer service! I cannot see that there is any harm in wiring as long as they fit you correctly. Are there any independent bra shops near you? I went to a fabulous one who measured me, let me try on loads, gave awesome advice and didn't mind that I left without buying.

Sadly unless my iron stores fall there's not much that can be done short of a transfusion if I drop a lot lower. But I really don't fancy that! I am self prescribing regular naps, sitting down a lot and red meat!

Dinky - sorry to return to gin when we're banned, but have you tried Berry Bros No. 3? It is my fave by far.

Thinkingof4 Thu 18-Apr-13 19:22:47

shiv that's lovely news about Oliver. Thank you for taking the time to post. Hopefully the first of many feeds xx

AmaDablam Thu 18-Apr-13 19:24:52

Excellent news Shiv, so lovely to hear Oliver has had his first meal of Mummy's milk smile

Icing it's horrible when someone in a shop that should be well used to dealing with pregnant women was so awful and judgemental. I wore underwired bras until 20 weeks when they started digging in at the sides. I did a fair bit of research on the internet and opinion seemed to be divided 50/50 as to whether they are bad for you or not, so I just trusted my intuition. Debenhams actually stock an underwired maternity bra so if they were that bad I don't see how a major store could get away with it! I think the main things going for non-wired is that they are slightly more forgiving if you start to grow out of them. On the downside the are never going to be as supportive and tend to be a bit frumpy (especially when you get past a DD cup) so it's whatever works for you, really.

Thinking, Bigbelly and Dinky thanks for the words of wisdom re. hospital bags. You are right, I should have all the stuff I need with me in terms of clothes anyway when I go away in May (may stick a bag of maternity pads in the car just in case, and notes go everywhere with me anyway) and if the baby comes that early, she's not going to fit in newborn clothes and nappies, let alone need them.

Thinkingof4 Thu 18-Apr-13 19:30:45

slouching blimey no wonder you are tired. I'm exhausted this week but am assuming my Hb is ok as it was checked at 28 weeks. I'm getting lots of dizziness/ seeing stars if I get up quickly but it's more of a nuisance than anything else. Speaking to occ health sounds like s good plan

icing that's terrible customer service you should complain about her. Hope you are feeling better now

abzs hope your dh trip offshore goes well. It's pretty windy so might be a bit rough on rig. My dh used to work offshore and he was always telling me about the rig swaying about it high seas. I think I would be seasick! Enjoy your trip home too

Is everyone carrying their maternity notes around with them? I hadn't planned on doing it yet. I never carried them with DD. I'm not even sure exactly where they are right now. I know I left them somewhere safe though so shouldn't be too hard to find before 28 week appointment next week.

Thinkingof4 Thu 18-Apr-13 19:32:38

AMA I'm taking notes everywhere with me too now. That's probably the most important thing to carry

SlouchingPanda Thu 18-Apr-13 20:04:21

I carry mine pretty much everywhere (--goody two shoes--). As I don't seem to go anywhere except work it's not a big ordeal!

Runswithsquirrels Thu 18-Apr-13 20:29:12

I carry mine everywhere since 15 weeks when I didn't and had a bleed and had to go home from work instead of going straight to hospital!

Runswithsquirrels Thu 18-Apr-13 20:29:36

And I bought a new handbag to fit them in smile

I like the way you operate, Runs

VinegarDrinker Thu 18-Apr-13 20:31:20

I don't carry my notes with me to work etc but did feel smug that I remembered to take them on holiday at Easter.

slouching I was ST2 when I had DS1, I did similar to what you were aiming to do wrt work.... But my Hb was at least 2g/dL higher than yours! Definitely see occy health. I really can't see your Consultants having a problem with it though.

All this talk of cake! I have cycled nearly 50 miles this week so reckon I definitely deserve it. ignoring the chocolate I've been troughing

VinegarDrinker Thu 18-Apr-13 20:32:47

If I was driving to work I would take them btw, but I travel light with a mini pannier! If I went in to labour at work, they all know my history anyway!

dinkystinky Thu 18-Apr-13 20:48:06

Slouching - havent tried that one. Will put it on my post baby arrival rider!

Dont carry my notes with me on a day to day basis, even though you're meant to - my handbag is overstuffed as it is! I do take them with me when I'm out of London though.

bigbelly4 Thu 18-Apr-13 20:55:59

Shiv - Bloody fantastic news! Keep on pumping!

I saw MW this afternoon for 28 week appointment, and all ok. I appear to have agreed to a homebirth! I'm actually really excited and really happy about desicion. My biggest fear was a baby not breathing, but MW confirmed they carry full resus equipment including intubation tubes so has really put my mind at ease.

Really trust this MW as she was the only one who recognised that my youngest was poorly and needed to be re-admitted at about 8 days. Despite me telly other MWs my concerns they ignored them but this one took one look at baby and was on phone to consultant within minutes - turned out he had undiagnosed jaundice.

Off for a romantic weekend away tomorrow (the one i was supposed to go on last week) and really looking forward to it!

PhieEl06 Thu 18-Apr-13 20:58:04

Will be taking my notes if I go away from home but for work & general day to day stuff was not going to bother until I come back off holiday at 31 weeks... Am I being silly there?

AmaDablam Thu 18-Apr-13 20:59:06

My notes generally live in my work bag, and then if we go away overnight, the car glove box. I have to say if I was just going out for the day at the weekend, I probably wouldn't have them with me - so not as goody-goody as all that!

Just found out that our friend from Nepal is visiting the UK for two weeks at the end of July (a once in a lifetime event for him). He arrives 4 days before my due date. DH and I just been trying to work out possible ways of getting to see him, but so many "what if's".... It's just really sunk in for us both, that this is the first time a major life event is coming up where we have absolutely no idea of or no control over exactly when/what is going to happen. Eeeeeek! shock

Have a fantastic weekend, Bigbelly.

My calves have been really sore and achy for the last week or two. They feel like I've overdone it on a long run, but ironically it only started after I gave up running. confused. They're very tender to touch too, but not swollen or anything so I'm pretty confident I don't have bilateral DVTs! My theory is that my belly is so big I'm doing a whole different form of exercise just keeping upright!! My thighs also feel tired every time I go up stairs. It's like I magically became unfit the day I stopped running sad.

SundaySunshine Thu 18-Apr-13 21:23:10

oh, I'm not carrying my notes with me, I hadn't really thought about it, but probably is a good idea...

Sacro best of luck with your test, learning to drive was one of the best things I did.

Totally hope your DD is feeling better today.

Icing poor you. getting your boobs measured is bad enough when they're nice to you. She obviously needs to refresh her customer service training.

slouching hope you manage to take things easy, you must feel wiped out.

Ama hope you get to see your friend, will he be staying somewhere near you or would you/he have to travel to meet up? It's a bit frustrating not being able to make solid plans around the time of your EDD isn't it.

right, back to my knitting smile

Thanks for recipes icing and sunday, just what I need smile

Sorry they were so mean at mothercare icing, I can also vouch for bravissimo as they did mine today and were great - am reeling a little from the FF shock however! The one I got is low cut and no nursing clips so I can feel normal a bit longer. Also as slouching said, the guidance from bravissimo was that you could continue to wear wired so long as it was the correct fit, and to get refitted as soon as it felt uncomfortable.

Amazing about the first feed shiv, bet it makes all the painful expressing feel worthwhile smile

Uh oh I don't carry my notes except to appointments. Actually forgot them for 20 week scan as I was so nervous!


ama ahh im sure youll get to see your friend, these things always work out.

Thanks for all your support on the fittings guys, feel much better and might rebook a fitting at an m&s as i know theyre pretty reliable...

Been feeling so many massive kicks today! But think its because ive been walking so much, wasn't walking as much before because of sciatica (any advice on getting rid of that would be AMAZING!) but now its getting a bit better im able to go for whole shopping trips smile sounds simple but feels like such an achievement

Hope you guys are all keeping well xxx

dinkystinky Thu 18-Apr-13 22:04:08

Icing - you can't totally get rid of sciatica but pregnancy yoga can help alleviate the symptoms. If you post in pregnancy I am pretty sure there are some sciatica pros on there who can give tips.

Have a lovely weekend bigbelly. V exciting about the home birth - bet it will be a fast one!

Ama - hope it all works out so you see your friend.

Totally - ouch re your calves. How are your magnesium levels? Try lots of tonic water and bananas or mag phos supplements to see if they help - I got bad leg cramps with ds1 and ds2 and the may phos helped.

Abzs Thu 18-Apr-13 22:41:32

Trip away now slightly spoiled by the arrival of a massive contingent of caravans across the road from my house. It's an annual occurrence and we have never had any actual trouble apart from noise, but I always worry about who is following them round using them as cover. Could really do without the worry.

esme80 Fri 19-Apr-13 08:07:35

bigbelly enjoy your weekend!

Are we really supposed to carry notes wherever we go? I've only been told to take it if I'm away for a few days or so. Don't think I have room for them in my already stuffed pushchair/nappy bag/handbag...

Thanks for sizing advice dinky I have to get that robot outfit for dh! Ok, little one will wear it, you know what I mean...

dinkystinky Fri 19-Apr-13 10:09:03

Gosh Abzs - that sounds quite intimidating. Hope they move on soon so you can stop worrying.

Esme - I got told by my MW at my first appoitment I should carry my notes around everywhere. Like you my handbag is stuffed to bulging and no space so have decided not to unless I go away from London - am keeping my fingers crossed they're not needed at any point. Was never told to carry them with me all the time with the other 2 pregnancies so am wondering if this is a new thing...

MrsRoss26 Fri 19-Apr-13 10:09:41

Icing don't get fitted at m&s if possible: they're hopeless! Far better to try any other shops in your area, who know their stuff. There is an excellent thread somewhere with women getting their sizes informed by a couple of informed mumsnetters. Best of luck though!

Am pretty sure I'm coming down with my first cold since the start of pregnancy (a real plus for me!) and feeling very unmotivated today. Shame it's so nice outside, I could really do with a day away from the office.

MrsRoss26 Fri 19-Apr-13 10:17:47

Whoops, ignore me Icing, have read back and seen everyone else's excellent advice. Should've taken more care in reading through.

Such amazing news from Shiv too, that's fantastic. I have everything crossed for continuing great progress smile

Hello everyone. smile

Slightly shocked that so many of you are carrying notes around! I am hopeless for remembering to take them anywhere.

We're going to Haggerston Castle for 4 days at the start of June, should I take them with me then? And any survival tips for 4 nights in a caravan with PIL, SIL, BIL, DP, toddler DS, a dog and heavily pregnant? confused

dinkystinky Fri 19-Apr-13 10:39:39

Yes, definitely take them with you if you're away for 4 days Schro - in all likelihood you wont need them but best to be safe. Survival tips.... erm, ditch the caravan and book yourself in somewhere with a proper bed and air conditioning if its hot? If not, take your own pillows etc to get comfy in bed and try and sit out of the caravan as much as possible (as those things get v hot in the summer - that is if it arrives by June...)

photographerlady Fri 19-Apr-13 11:08:23

Wow look at all the note carriers. Mine have been sitting in the kitchen for weeks but with GTT and 28 week appointment coming up maybe should start taking them with me. Maybe even to London when I'm at work but I rather dash for a train the sit 10 hours in a busy hospital in the city. Well hope I wouldn't have need to.

Devilforasideboard Fri 19-Apr-13 11:58:46

Morning all. Been lurking but not posting properly for ages so decided it's time I did smile

I'm glad everyone seems to be doing okish, spd and the joys of carrying around what feels like a bowling ball now aside of course.

I've had an interesting week. Had my 28 week scan and consultant appointment and it turns out I have placenta previa (they thought it was partial at the last scan but is now complete). Consultant doesn't think it's likely to move so I have to finish work at 32 weeks at the latest and will probably be admitted at 34 if no bleeding before then and hopefully make it to 37 weeks for a c-section. I've to take it very easy (no heavy housework - yay! but no sex - boo!) and head straight to hospital if I have any bleeding. They seemed surprised I haven't had any bleeding so far so I'm taking that as a good sign. It's all a bit of a shock to be honest but it's out of my hands so I'm just hoping for the best.

Luckily we're more or less organised and the pram (icandy Peach, lush!) arrived this week. On the note front I was keeping mine in the car but am now going to use the excuse of having to have them with me at all times in case of bleeding to buy a large new handbag.

dinkystinky Fri 19-Apr-13 14:39:49

Devil - sounds like you've had abit of a scary week but the fact you havent had any bleeding or indications of issues is a good thing. and it sounds like you've come to terms with it. I hope things continue to go smoothly for you and you'll make it to your csec at 37 weeks - though the idea of being admitted for 3 weeks doesnt sound too appealing. Enjoy the new handbag shopping!

Devil that sounds like the perfect excuse for a new bag. I hope things continue to go smoothly right up to 37 weeks.

DD is now on antibiotics for a chest infection and DH and I are stuck in traffic trying to get back to her. It's complete gridlock and the radio says the roads probably won't be clear for hours sad.

My calves still feel really tight and I think I'm even starting to walk a bit oddly because they're so uncomfortable. It's bizarre.

On the positive side it's a beautiful day here. It really looks like spring has arrived at last!

Abzs Fri 19-Apr-13 19:18:17

dinky intimidating is the right word. Luckily the land belongs to a housing developer and they've rung to say their lawyers are on to it. They dealt with it very quickly last time, and given they're due on site soon expediency is in their interest.

PhieEl06 Fri 19-Apr-13 19:23:04

Seems like a perfect excuse for a new bag devil! With that you've given me ideas.
On the subject of bags has anyone ever had a Storksak or Pitterpac?
I really really like this & this but can I justify treating myself that much!

MrsRoss haha no worries thank you for the tip and i must admit you're probably right about most but i know the ladies in my local ones and they're really fab, just didnt fancy going somewhere i knew them but better than back to mothercare! Haha

Devil ooh thats not the best news but at least youve found out so youve got a plan and all that in place, i didnt realise youd have to go to hosp. 3 weeks before? Take it easy x

Phie oh my god! I fell in love with that second one as soon as i saw it! But the price blush, dont think my OH would be impressed since hes just bought my birthday present sad they look really fab though

On a side note, had my nails done today so feeling lovelyyyyyy grin how is everyone feeling now its the weekend?

Phie Haven't had either of those but I have one of these and it's fab, I love it and you can get leather ones too.

Devil I hope everything goes smoothly for you. x

Dinky There's no way I can book anywhere else, I think I will just have to spend as much time outside as possible!

Thinkingof4 Fri 19-Apr-13 20:03:50

totally poor dd, hope she is better soon

devil yikes that's a bit scary, but v good you've had no problems so far

phie nice bags but do people really spend that much on a change bag shock

Such a lovely day today, fx for a nice weekend

dinkystinky Fri 19-Apr-13 20:04:36

Fair enough Schro - spend time outside, take pillows/fan to make sure you keep cool and enjoy the holiday! I'd be tempted to camp outside the caravan if its hot...

Totally hope then traffic cleared and you made it home alright and the ABs kick in quickly for your DD.

Abzs - glad the developer is on it - and the development means it won't happen again!

I think we would have to pay for a camping space. I love camping but I think it might be offensive if we slept outside! grin

Thinking I seen bags far more expensive than that in Saks in the US. And they were reduced.


By bags I still mean changing bags!

MarieKL Fri 19-Apr-13 21:59:40

Shiv curling toes is wonderful news. What a special moment for you. Thank you for sharing it with us.

I'm not carrying my maternity notes with me either, though perhaps if I had a larger handbag I could.... Mmmm I'm off for a shopping trip with my SIL who is 22 weeks pg tomorrow, and may have to have a look at handbags smile

Devil no wonder it was a bit of a shock but at least now you know what to expect. My sister had the ICandy and I agree, very lush!

Totally I hope your DD feels better soon and the traffic cleared for the rest of your journey home.

Schro no advice, but I hope your holiday is relaxing rather than stressful. Abzs hope you have a lovely weekend and any concerns are unfounded. Sounds like the situation is being dealt with, which is some reassurance.

Off to bed, as had a restless night witH DS last night. My favourite was the 4am wake up call because there was a seagull in his bed! hope everyone has a good weekend.

dinkystinky Fri 19-Apr-13 22:50:39

Marie - ds2 woke us up the other night wailing he had an eyeball in his eye! Hope you get a good nights rest.

Another one with an ill kid here - Ds1 has a headache and fever virus which struck him down at school. Am hoping he is better for his birthday party on sunday

Cutandstick Fri 19-Apr-13 23:06:28

Vouching for bravissimo icing - I cried after leaving my independent local bra fitters at about 16 weeks - as they refused to sell me a 34" back as I measured a 32" despite the fact I've had rib pain the whole way thru and can't wear a bra that tight. Bravissimo were wonderful about it!!

Hadn't thought about carrying notes - managed to leave them at home for consultant app and whooping cough jab too... So it may be a good plan.

Thanks for hospital bag advice.... On my to do list....

Anyone else feeling an aching like a bruise on their pubic bone in the morning - on both sides v low down?

Ahh theyve had so many good recommendations, but i dont think theres a bravissimo near me sad

cutandstick i havent had that but when i move to quickly or stretch to far i get a tugging pain in that sort of area, don't know if its the same sort of thing

Im finding that in the night i keep trying to lay on my back, i hate not being able to sad luckily every time i roll over it wakes me up so i can shift back over, so aggravating though sad

AmaDablam Sat 20-Apr-13 08:02:45

Morning ladies

Devils that sounds like scary news, but like you say, very encouraging that you have not yet had any bleeding and it's good in some ways to have a "plan of action" so to speak, even if it wasn't what you'd anticipated.

I'm thinking of taking a trip to Bravissimo as I've only heard good things about them. Does anyone else HATE getting their boobs measured? It's not that I'm a prude or anything but there's just something so personal about it, plus if it isn't done right you just end up with something you're not entirely happy with that makes you downright uncomfortable. I've only had it done once since pg - that was in M&S and agree they're a bit rubbish. The lady was perfectly nice but I wasn't particularly happy with the bras I walked out with.

cut I get that sometimes on my pubic bone. This morning though it feels like my hips that have taken a battering from a cricket bat! Going to attempt some pilates in an attempt to sort them out.


Cutandstick Sat 20-Apr-13 08:27:06

Make it a lump not a bruised feeling! Presuming its a gland! Was due to be waxed there this morning, glad I discovered it first because that would have HURT! blush

photographerlady Sat 20-Apr-13 08:34:49

Morning ladies. Off to a nearly new sale today to face my fear of women and shopping.

Twinklestarstwinklestars Sat 20-Apr-13 08:44:27

I recommend bravissimo too, I always measure at 36 back but they don't fit and she saw that as soon as I tried one on. I live 1.5 hours from one so was pleased I had to go to a hospital app there! That was 8 weeks ago though and its now getting a but small.

I keep my notes in my car (I work from home though) but I've been having at least one app a week and have to go in the car as live rurally so at least I don't forget, I'm high risk for various reasons though so just keep them with me in case.

dinkystinky Sat 20-Apr-13 09:11:08

Cut - could be an infected hair follicle. I had one in early pregnancy and had to get antibiotic cream from gp to sort it out - go get checked out esp if painful.

Icing, Ama - I only ever use bravissimo or rigby + peller (when i am done with bfing) to get measured - they are brilliant with checking fit and also lift/shape under clothes. Icing - there's a few in central London and you can book in advance for appointments - so if you're planning a day in London at some point may be worth checking out. They can also do phone consultations - not too sure how that would work though..

Enjoy nabbing your bargains Photographer lady.

Debenhams are quite good for bra sizing too. Only Bravissimo and Debenhams size me correctly (30HH).

New Look are selling Hot Milk maternity bras and House of Fraser are selling lovely Elle Macpherson maternity bras as well.

Btw, I still don't have a bump!

Wondering if I should start taking bets on how long it will take to appear. confused

It's not as if I am very big either, I'm a New Look size 8-10, don't know what I am elsewhere.

Devilforasideboard Sat 20-Apr-13 10:23:47

Thanks for the kind words ladies, much appreciated! Had a very lazy day yesterday and feel much better for it.

Good luck Photographer even DH found the nearly new sale we went to wasn't too bad at all. I think the key is to go in with a plan and stick to it (although we did end up with a huge Winnie The Pooh teddy which definitely wasn't in the plan smile

elliejjtiny Sat 20-Apr-13 12:25:26

shiv glad Oliver enjoyed his breastmilk, he must have looked so cute with his toe curling.

schro good luck with the driving test

photographer good luck with the nearly new sale. I've never been to one but done the next sale which can be fairly brutal.

re being organised I'm not at all, still got the boring stuff to buy, like nappies, maternity pads etc for the hospital bag. I like the idea of having a just in case bag with extra bits for a longer stay in hospital. Does anyone know what a full term baby in scbu would need? The midwife has told me that if Severus needs to stay in, he/she will probably be in scbu for monitoring. I've asked that if I'm fine but he/she needs to stay on a ward I'd rather be on the children's ward than postnatal. Midwife wasn't sure but she'd look into it. The baby ward at our hospital is a lot nicer than the postnatal ward and has open visiting so DH and the DC's can come when they like. Haven't been carrying my notes around either, oops.

re bras I've always just got DH to measure me, less embarrassing and gives him a bit of excitement grin. Poor man doesn't get much of that these days, it must be difficult to get turned on when your wife has to stop and throw up in the middle of sex!

re panicking about another baby definately! Especially at bedtime when I'm trying to listen to reading books while the one of the older 2 who isn't reading keeps interrupting and DS3 gets out of bed for the 30th time and I have to chase him across the landing before he reaches the bathroom and throws water over himself, chucks a bath toy down the loo or plays with the toilet brush.

Had my midwife appointment yesterday. + of leukocites (can't spell it) in my wee but could be because I had to use an old lush shower jelly pot as I couldn't find my normal wee pot. Midwife told me to phone antenatal ward immediately if I have suspicions that my waters may have broken. Judging by the amount of fluid measured at the scan last week I will be in no doubt when my waters break and will need to issue a flood warning! All blood results came back normal.

I've got a child free and DH free day today which I planned on spending giving the house a really good clean and hopefully finding the dvd player remote at the same time (I think ds3 has hidden it which means it could be anywhere). So far I've spent the morning catching up on mn and eating hulahoops blush. Oh well, there's still the afternoon.

Cutandstick Sat 20-Apr-13 12:46:23

Thanks dinky, but too big for hair follicle - apparently either a hernia or varicose vein. It had disappeared by the time I saw him, but has come back since - felt it pop out. Anyways, got to phone antenatal ward or go to a and e if it stays out / hurts. I suspect being on my feet / knees at work all week hasn't helped - but who am I to say! smile

Twinklestarstwinklestars Sat 20-Apr-13 12:46:34

Ellie when my ds was in scbu they provided milk but I was going to breast feed then panicked when he was so tiny (born at 38 weeks) so if you know you're bottle feeding you may need to take milk, I had to take everything else like you would normally like nappies etc. he was only in there for about 36 hours.

Schro - no bump yet??? You must have great abdominal muscles holding everything in! I feel like I've swallowed a fit ball.

Thinkingof4 Sat 20-Apr-13 13:53:23

Ellie when ds1 was in scbu he just wore a nappy so no clothes required. He wasn't well enough to feed from me initially and they provided pump for me to express till he could feed himself. They provided nappies too, so I didn't need anything for him. I got single room on postnatal ward so I didn't need to look at all the mums who had their new babies with them. It meant I was on hand when he was well enough to feed, they would just phone ward and I'd go down to him straight away (overnight for example). He was term plus 13 so quite a bruiser compared to all the other wee toots
Enjoy your child free day envy

photographer enjoy the sale but don't go crazy buying stuff

dinky hope ds is a bit better today, And totally hope dd is picking up with the antibiotics

We had a morning out today, I had haircut first then met dh with the boys and went down the beach as the sun was trying to shine. However after about 20 min they were all whining about it being too cold hmm so we went for early lunch at cafe
Yum and no cooking hurray! Hope the sun is shining smile

schro i bet itll just appear overnight! Haha suddenly youll just be huge wink

ellie ahh hopefully its just because you used the pot!

cutandstick ooh are you going back to get it checked then? Hope all is well x

I was having a really good day today until i punctured a tyre on my car, really frustrating as there was nothing to puncture it on! Nowhere near any curbs etc just going round a car park and the car juddered and stalled, theyll probably find a fat spike in it or something sad theres a bit more money gone!
Hope youre all enjoying the sunshine (if its as sunny where you are as it is here)

SlouchingPanda Sat 20-Apr-13 15:47:55

Today is a momentous day <fanfare>

I finally bought some stuff for the baby! grin Managed to pick up some stuff at a garage sale round the corner and for the bargain price of £16 got:

Moses basket/carrycot stand
Bundle of 10 muslins
Manual avent breast pump
2 x cotton blankets
4 x fitted sheets for carrycot

So overall I'm feeling quite pleased with my haul. Plus, it's a gorgeous day here so I'm going to sit in the garden with my laptop, reading scientific papers .

Hope you are all enjoying sunshine too! Photographer how was the sale? And CutAndStick hope the case of the mysterious disappearing lump is solved soon. Schro - I am sure when we are all the size of a house we will long for the 'no bump' times, so enjoy!


photographerlady Sat 20-Apr-13 16:23:24

Back from nearly new. Firstly was nice to meet so many ladies. The town I used to live in was mainly bankers (sorry if you or your DP is a banker) and weren't the most friendly folk. I picked up four grow bags, pretty much ranging from 0-18 months. All in nice condition £1.50 each. Then 6 bumgenius pocket nappies aio barely used for £12 which I thought was a mega bargain seeing they are birth to potty and a soft outer material. And then DH picked out like 10 outfits all under a year. Shameful I know cause we have so many clothes but he has this hidden natural talent for cute girl outfits, all barely worn.

The queue for nonmembers was HUGE at 10am, so glad we had a membership. DH ended up loving it which I have teased him about the rest the day.

AmaDablam Sat 20-Apr-13 18:34:41

Congratulations slouching and photographer on your hauls. I have just come home from a friend's house with 5 cellular blankets, 5 hooded towels, a shawl and a crib/carrycot sheet that she no longer has need of. A great day for 2nd hand baby gear bargains (or in my case a generous gift) smile

dinkystinky Sat 20-Apr-13 19:01:35

Ouch Cut - hope it gets sorted soon! The infected hair follicle produced a lump that was the size of a golf ball - I was amazed.

Glad you met some nice people today and got a good haul Photographer. And yay for your garage sale haul slouching.

What a pain re the puncture Icing - I hate it when stuff like that happens.

Isn't it lovely finally having some sunshine? V jealous of your trip to the beach Thinking (even if it was cut short).

Totally I've had physio weekly to do core exercises since DS was born because of my joints so it might actually be that hiding it?

Icing That's what I am scared of! Waking up one morning the size of a house!

Ellie DS was in SCBU for monitoring for a couple of nights. All we needed for him was vests, babygrows and we were allowed to put a blanket on him that we wanted to as well. But our hospital provides nappies and formula to everyone. I left expressed milk but if you were staying in the hospital or not BFing I guess you wouldn't need to?

Slouching and Photographer Glad the baby sales went well, they're a lot of fun, I think. smile

shelley72 Sat 20-Apr-13 19:19:50

photographer - what you need to do next time is volunteer, that wy you get first pick of all the stuff AND you get a yummy breakfast too! i wandered down (DCs swim on a sat morning) but it looked packed!

had bad day / night - ended up being monitored on labour ward last night for half hour, all ok so came home. tonight i have spotting sad. not bright red so they are not overly concerned but i have to phone again later if anything changes. baby has been moving today though so im hoping its just because i didnt rest like they told me too.

worried doesn't even begin to cover it...

so im having a night of trashy tv with feet up, writing a list for my hospital bag. going to get it done soon i think. glad others are having a better day smile

photographerlady Sat 20-Apr-13 19:34:09

shelly I was going to say hey look for me I'm the pregnant woman... but seems like its a popular time to be pregnant. Well I guess it was a NCT gathering I don't know why I was expecting not to be. Next ones November I think I will volunteer seems super organised.

shelley - take it easy. I hope everything settles and it was just a one off.

We were planning to go to a nearly new sale today, but DD was definitely not up for it, even though she's much better today than she had been during the week. Probably just as well, I don't think we really need anything for a while and we have a house move coming up so need to de-clutter!

photographerlady Sat 20-Apr-13 20:00:26

shelly hope rest helps and you are feeling better soon (hug)

dinkystinky Sat 20-Apr-13 20:45:38

Shelley - sounds like a scary 24 hours. Definitely take it easy and rest up, keep your fluids up and watch something to distract you. Hoping all continues to be OK.

Totally - glad dd is starting to feel better.

VinegarDrinker Sat 20-Apr-13 21:09:19

Slightly jealous of all those buying baby gear. All I have to get is a buggy board (not immediately as will most likely sling for first 6m at least), and possibly a second hand bedside cot/cheap Ikea cot (although we will prob evict DS from his). I think I even have a packet of maternity pads left from last time!

shelley hope everything settles down nicely for another good few weeks at least

Had an uncomfortable afternoon with lots of painful BHs and some nasty nausea, but it seems to be settling. DH pointed out I'd hardly drunk anything all day so hopefully just that.

29+4 ... eek, nearly at the 3/4 of the way stage!

VinegarDrinker Sat 20-Apr-13 21:10:27

Oh and we will need some size 1 disposables for hospital... But that's about it!

shelley72 Sun 21-Apr-13 06:05:28

thanks all, had a pretty sleepless night typical as DCs actually slept until 5.15 but the spotting seems to have tailed off and not got any worse so that is a huge relief, though no baby movments yet, maybe he/she is having a lie in too!

we have a busy day planned which was arranged ages ago with friends who are visiting the area and so we cant really drop out. i am hoping to be able to sit out in the sunshine though whilst the children play.

tomorrow though i WILL rest - DS is at school, DD has a nursery session and i have nothing planned so i have no excuse!

dinkystinky Sun 21-Apr-13 07:34:05

Shelley - you must be shattered after a sleepless night. Can you get a nap in before your friends arrive or if you're meant to be going out for the day, arrange to all meet at home and send dh and kids to get some stuff for a home picnic - so you can rest as much as possible? I am sure your friends would understand any change in plam as its you guys they want to see. In any event, try lots of lying on your left side and keep your fluids up.

shelley72 Sun 21-Apr-13 08:05:46

spotting has returned sad. have been back to bed for a bit, but no more sleep and no movement as yet. if things continue, i think DH may be going out on his own. in any case my mat notes are coming with me today and tomorrow is definitely a day to rest. just about to order a spare car seat to put in my mums - just in case. the more i am prepared the less likely it is i will need it all. thats my theory anyway...

dinkystinky Sun 21-Apr-13 08:09:28

OK - call labour ward Shelley for their thoughts. Tell them no movement last night and spotting has returned. I suspect they will want you back in for monitoring which will hopefully reassure all that all is OK.

photographerlady Sun 21-Apr-13 08:11:58

Morning ladies. Have a question. Has anyone had their GTT bloods done? How long does it take and do you know if I have to wait at hospital or if I can go home and come back?

photographerlady Sun 21-Apr-13 08:13:47

Aww shelly sorry to hear about your night? Did you get a chance to ring the midwives? Take care of yoursf dear xx

dinkystinky Sun 21-Apr-13 08:18:47

I had mine done photographer - they say up to 2 hrs but really should be done in 1 hr 15 mins - don't eat before, chug sugar drink within 5 mins, record the time you finished it and get bloods done an hour later. They want you to stay put (as no food beforehand can make you a fainting risk).

Grannyapple Sun 21-Apr-13 08:20:21

shelley-call your mw or go to maternity assessment unit!

photographer I've got mine this coming Wednesday & my understanding is that you need to stay in the path lab/phlebotomy unit ( or wherever they have you do the test in the hospital)...pain I know as appt is 2 hrs..I'm taking my work laptop (new system I work tomorrow so lots of adjusting for me to do) & will take a Marian Keyes book that I got for Xmas but haven't actually got very far with!

Does anyone know if the results are instant or if they go back to docs for you to get the results?

dinkystinky Sun 21-Apr-13 08:23:45

Granny - had mine on a Tuesday, was told would call on Friday if an issue. No call so will get results at next mW appt at 34 weeks. May differ from trust to trust though.

SlouchingPanda Sun 21-Apr-13 08:34:45

Shelley sorry to hear you've been having a worrying time. If you still haven't had any movements, please do call your maternity unit. Thinking of you today - let us know how you are.

In my trust, results are back in a few days. If raised, you get a call from a specialist MW. If you don't hear, it means they're normal, but I would ask your MW next appt to double check.

Beautiful day again here so I should probably get out of bed


shelley72 Sun 21-Apr-13 08:53:14

thank you all. they didnt seem overly concerned about the spotting - only if it changes (going bright red) or if my waters go (not that i would know if they had i think!). i think that i am feeling hiccups down there though and have been eating and drinking a lot so im hoping that has woken baby up. any more changes and i will phone them again. they probably have me down as a problem patient already and whilst i really dont want to waste anyones time i would rather be safe and all that.

my GTT took a couple of hours from start to finish and i had to wait in the antenatal dept - i took a book to read but luckily bumped into someone i knew there so that did pass the time a bit. another lady did faint so thats probably why you have to stay put! make sure you take some food for as soon as you're done. they said that you will get a call next day i they find anything and if you dont hear you're to assume that everythings ok.

i have just had a mad half hour ordering stuff online - wouldnt be surprised if the credit card company ring in a bit to ask what on earths going on!

VinegarDrinker Sun 21-Apr-13 09:02:27

Re movements, shelley and others the current guidelines if you are not sure baby is moving enough (from 28 weeks) are to lie on your left side in a quiet room with no distractions (ie no TV) for 2 hours. If less than 10 movements in that time then to contact Labour Ward/your MW.

PhieEl06 Sun 21-Apr-13 09:13:20

Morning all, shelley sorry to hear you've been worrying, I hope you have some improvement today.
For those not part of our secret Facebook group, I felt very strange yesterday, very breathless, lightheaded & palpitations, I feel much better today after a sleep so I think I must of over done it yesterday with the massive spring clean I did.

Also back to expensive changing bag links from before I am trying to convince OH to buy me one for my birthday in June... We'll have to see. smile

Runswithsquirrels Sun 21-Apr-13 10:22:28

Anyone else watching the marathon? So jealous! I did it two years ago and couldn't walk for two days. Can you imagine trying to carry baby bump 26 miles? I struggle getting up stairs!

Shelley second advice about lying on side - try drinking something cold too.

Phie glad you are feeling better. I get very breathless at the silliest of things!

My GTT was completely different to you guys blush i was told my appointment was at 9am and to start drinking the lucozade at 6:50 and finish by 7, no other foods and drink except water then when i got to hosp they just took blood and was done smile Strangee haha

shelley i hope everything is okay, do make sure you take it easy, as you say better safe then sorry, even if you go out let everyone else run around after the kids and make sure you have plenty to drink x

Beginningofthejourney Sun 21-Apr-13 10:31:47

In my head runs I would love to run a marathon but in reality I don't think I ever could. I did the breast cancer moon walk a few years ago and it took forever!
shelley hope you get to chill out a bit today and all ok.
I also got some baby bits yesterday, my goddaughter parents seem to find something to pass on every time I visit, yesterday i got an unused breast pump, a bottle warmer and some other bits. This is a second hand baby, and if its a girl then they said I have loads of clothes to come :-)
Hope baby Oliver has had a good weekend? X
28+4!! (Going quick!)

dinkystinky Sun 21-Apr-13 11:26:02

I am seriously in awe of anyone that does the marathon - my cut off point for running is 8k! No idea how anyone runs 26 miles!

Shelley - you are not a problem patient. Its really important to get stuff checked out if there is any doubt/concern at all and really important that you are reassured.

Shiv posted on FB late last night - looks like Oliver had a good day and is off the ventilator (breathing by himself) and also being weaned off the morphine, so he's continuing to do brilliantly. Hopefully she'll pop on here at some point to update you all herself.

VinegarDrinker Sun 21-Apr-13 11:30:21

Thanks for the Oliver update dinky

I couldn't run for a bus let alone a marathon! DH is talking about doing the Royal Parks Half in October, makes me shudder to think about. Give me a bike or long distance walking though and I'm in! (Although I prefer the minimum number of people around as possible so not interested in races/events etc).

Great news about Oliver! Thanks for the update, dinky

I'm at work today. Just catching up on MN and the marathon whilst taking a sneaky break. I really miss running. I'd love to do another marathon some time, but the training takes up so much time. I stopped running 3 weeks ago and feel a bit sad and envious every time I spot someone out running, especially now the weather has improved.

Shelley it's better to call for advice or get checked out if you have any concerns. Don't worry about being a 'problem patient'!

AmaDablam Sun 21-Apr-13 11:50:41

Sorry to hear you've had a difficult 24 hours Shelley. Hopefully some rest will do the trick, the spotting will stop and those movements will get more definite.

It seems very minor in comparison but I've just got back from the out of hours GP who I had to see for suspected UTI. Dip test actually showed up clear, and symptoms are easing off so just got to pop a sample into the surgery in the morning to send off to the lab as a precaution. Also had increased discharge over the past few days which the nurse I spoke to on the phone sounded quite concerned about. GP was not in the least bit worried though and said it'll just be hormonal or possibly a mild case of thrush.

Really good news about little Oliver - will pop onto FB in a mo and have a look at Shiv's latest post.

27 weeks today

Runswithsquirrels Sun 21-Apr-13 13:07:29

Totally I get so jealous seeing runners too! I stopped early on as I had no energy but manage the tiniest bit on a treadmill about once a week.

Calmisthemantra Sun 21-Apr-13 14:52:48

My GTT was really different. Had to eat a very precise breakfast of exactly 75somethings of carbohydrates. So had a list to pick and choose from. Went with special K with fresh berries & milk, orange juice and toast with jam. Then EXACTLY 2 hours later I had to have blood taken. Was having a stress as the midwife was running late and there was no one I could speak to (to tell her the importance) Luckily I predicted this and had the brekkie 10mins late so hopefully it worked out ok. They only contact me if there's an issue so fx.

On another note. We had a fun evening last night- I fell over the stair gate, bashed my bump on it and broke a toe! Had to go to maternity dept to get baby monitored and the anti D injection early, didn't bother with an X-ray (&mega wait in a&e) as they don't do anything for broken toes! . All fine though. Phew

photographerlady Sun 21-Apr-13 18:47:30

calm ouch sorry about your accident.

We a need to wrap in cotton wool ladies too many hospital visits this week.

photographerlady Sun 21-Apr-13 19:55:08

Sorry to be a pest but anyone know what part of the hospital the GTT will probably be in?

dinkystinky Sun 21-Apr-13 20:05:33

It was in the antenatal clinic when I did it but clearly varies from place to place.

Calm - ouch poor you. I hope you don't feel battered and bruised for too long.

Ama hope you are OK - lots of discharge by itself is common at this stage but if smelly, discoloured, bloody or accompanied by discomfort please get checked out.

Runswithsquirrels Sun 21-Apr-13 20:08:08

My GTT was in the blood department although I was allow to sit upstairs in the cafe for my two hour wait.

Abzs Sun 21-Apr-13 20:29:59

Having a fine weekend here. Got sunburned at a steam rally yesterday with DB1 & his DW, and have been to my first soft play centre with DB2, SIL & DNs today. Fed a lovely roast dinner by DB2's mil too!

MarieKL Sun 21-Apr-13 20:59:03

Dinky thank you for the update on Oliver. I giggled at your DCs eyeball comment as well.

Sounds like quite a few of us aren't having a great time at the moment. Shelly I entirely agree with everyone else. You know you and your baby best so if you're worried make a fuss. Phie glad you're feeling better. Calm ouch! I hope your toe heals quickly. Ama glad the doctor was reassuring. I hope it clears up soon for you.

I'm impressed by all the running talk. Though much like Vingear I prefer long distance walking, though not much chance of any walking with DS in tow. Far more like a leisurely wander, with frequent stops to poke things!

Good luck to all those with tests etc this week.

dinkystinky Mon 22-Apr-13 06:51:10

Brief Oliver update from FB for those not on it - shiv posted a photo of him last night and he is gorgeous; he had to go back on the ventilator as the CPAP was making him work too hard - still amazing progress in a week though!

AmaDablam Mon 22-Apr-13 07:05:38

Thanks Dinky and Marie. Back to stingy wee this morning sad but hopefully I'll have peace of mind when the sample comes back from the lab. I do suffer on and off from interstitial (sp? - basically non-bacterial form of) cystitis so I expect it's just that. As for the discharge (sorry if TMI) it is a yellowy colour, but I told the GP this and she wasn't worried.

Calm sorry to hear about your accident, hope your toe heals fast and glad the bump is fine, despite its encounter with the stairgate.

Lovely to see that little Oliver continues his fight - the pic from Shiv really cheered me up this morning smile


shelley72 Mon 22-Apr-13 07:27:27

Good news about as shiv and little Oliver!

Tried to post last night but mumsnet went off when I hit post. Anyway I'm ok, thanks for all the messages yesterday. I ended up going back in to hospital from our day out as throughout the day the spotting got worse and was accompanied by cramping. Had some more prodding and monitoring and baby is fine. They think that the spots may be caused by some bruising/blood coming away through the cervix. Having a complete rest today between school and nursery runs. house is a mess and have two baskets of ironing to do but they will still be there tomorrow!

Photographer I went to same place as we do for the scans / dau. Took a couple of hours and had to wait there. Hope it goes Ok

notprincesskate Mon 22-Apr-13 08:08:12

Goodness there must have been something in the weather this weekend, with all the trips to get checked out, I spent a couple of hours at the local maternity unit, as I've had/still got left sided pain, which is more across my ribs, and feels like its my skin rather than deep type pain, difficult to describe, but mighty uncomfortable, everything looked fine anyway, they think its muscular, although its still there.
Is anyone else feeling really uncomfortable when even doing normal things, I just can't really comprehend the thought of getting any bigger/ more uncomfortable if I go anywhere near full term!
Weird how the GTT varies I should have mine this week- fast for 12hrs, have blood, drink lucazade, wait an hr have blood, wait an hr have blood, and not to move around too much in that two hrs- sounds like bliss, but on one of those uncomfortable chairs sounds like a nightmare, too much time for me to think of all the jobs I could be doing.
Had a whole list of things I was going to reply to, but can't remember them or who now, except, very bad patient here don't carry my notes anywhere unless appts, despite being high risk, that said I'm not usually more than 30mins from home at any point. And I got a lovely oilcloth changing bag from a lady on eBay who makes them, it's a really good size and she does lots of different designs or will make to order, cost around the £55 mark, so I didn't think too exorbitant, especially as I'm likely to use it as my main bag for a out a year and in comparison to some of my handbags which are about a tenth of the size and 3 times the price- just don't tell DH wink.
Have a good day all

cheekbyjowl Mon 22-Apr-13 08:44:14

Oh dear. Sorry that so many of you have had baby concerns but really glad to read that none are thought to be serious.

shiv really glad to hear how oliver is doing. What a blessing. Its incredible hes improved so quickly and seems to be in excellent care. Weve been praying for your family and hope you and your husband are resting ok and have good friends around you

Dh and I are going to do a test next month to see how we can make living on a single income work. Anyone else doing this/done this? Any good apps to track spending? no starbucks for us in May!

Cutandstick Mon 22-Apr-13 08:50:53

That's very sensible cheek We both seem to have extra outlays at the moment, I'm buying all baby stuff and DP is buying all materials to build a shed (he def has worst side of the bargain, but I do get most of the food!) I've only got 2 more full pay checks left, and one is in a few days...ahhhhh!

Definitely something in the air this weekend for so many of us being checked out. We must have reached that stage of pregnancy when everything is under a bit more stress in our bodies. I'm back to the GP this afternoon, my MW says to see GP over everything unless its a check up!

photographerlady Mon 22-Apr-13 09:15:48

Morning all. Had my first set of blood taken, nurse was just back from annual leave and my arm was dropping with blood (tmi). Now my two hour wait surrounded by other ladies reading magazines. You think they have pregnancy mags in here but it's all Closer and Now. It's going to be a long two hours atleast I have Game of Thrones on my tablet :p

dinkystinky Mon 22-Apr-13 09:25:11

Ouch Ama and Notprincess - you both sound like you are in the wars. If it is cystitis, I hope it passes soon Ama and Notprincess that the baby moves position (if that is what is causing it) and the pain eases up for you. I know what you mean about not being able to imagine getting g any bigger - I have had 15 people tell me this weekend (I kept count) that I look like I am term already - I had to tell them that they ain't seen nothing yet as I look like I'm smuggling space hoppers down my top by the end!

Glad you and the baby are OK Shelley - please do take it easy and ignore the ironing. I don't iron anything (refuse to buy things for me or the boys that need ironing and DH irons his own shirts as they are nothing to do with me!) But know I am a domestic slattern in that respect.

Cheek - I found it really useful to go through statements on mat leave first time to work out monthly and quarterly outgoings and put them in a spreadsheet. Don't forget annual expenses too (insurance/car tax/parking permit/Mot etc). I then worked out what we would have coming in while on mat leave. I did a food/shopping budget and saving for unforeseen expenses allocation (easiest to set up a transfer to a savings account to stop you dipping into it - if its not used, you can use it for holidays/classes etc in the future) and we put what was needed (split in proportion to what we had coming in so DH had to pay the lions share) plus an extra 100 each into our joint account and what was left was ours to spend as we like. It worked really well for us but I know different approaches work for different families. Money saving expert is a good website to trawl for budgeting ideas.

BB01 Mon 22-Apr-13 10:13:31

Sorry to hear of people not feeling well and having worries over the baby with movements etc. Hope they all turned out to be unfounded worries and that all the babies stay where they should be for a good while longer!

Sounds like Oliver is making good progress overall, which is lovely to hear.

Yes, feel a bit envious of all the runners at the marathon! Don't fancy doing a run that long but I did used to do some quite long distances at one point and got such a buzz off it! Am finding it too uncomfortable to even do my slow jogging on pavements now so having to walk to the canal tow path then do my shuffling along! Really want to keep at it as long as it feels ok though as nothing else comes close to it for clearing my head and making me feel good.

Think it's a really good idea to have a look into single income finances - thanks for the reminder!

BB01 Mon 22-Apr-13 10:20:30

I thought this was lovely (nearly had to stop reading as was on a train and was struggling not to blub!!) http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/apr/13/letter-to-my-unborn-baby

dinkystinky Mon 22-Apr-13 10:25:52

Abzs - sounds like you're having a lovely time with family. Hope the sunburn isnt too bad.

It was DS1's 7th birthday party yesterday - bowling and pizza and icecream for 15 kids. Went well but am knackered today after it - spent most of my time having to marshall a 4 year old back to the bowling lanes (not even my 4 year old!) from the amusement arcade bit of the bowling alley...

BadMissM Mon 22-Apr-13 10:46:48

Well, no-one else has been nearly murdered in front of the house this weekend, so things going better!

Stupid neighbours woke me up at 7am, after a really bad night, so got my own back by sanding at 8am (ha). Have been using time to paint a chest of drawers for LO's room.... being careful after last week's panic....

off to finish painting the rest of his room (so I can put it all in place), then off with my Polish friends this afternoon, as she wants me to give her ideas for HER LO's room (I should become a style consultant....!!!)

dinkystinky Mon 22-Apr-13 11:41:07

Glad the week is looking up for you BadmissM! Am impressed at all the stuff you're doing for LO's room - do I see a new future in interior design opening up?

lancslass83 Mon 22-Apr-13 11:46:35

Hello everyone, been lurking since 4 weeks but thought it was about time I posted, would also love to join fb group. Due 21st July with dc1 so date twins with Ama. Been really good to hear everyone's stories and to know I'm not mad with some of my issues.

MightBeMad Mon 22-Apr-13 11:59:55

Love that article BB01 - just about sums it all up.

Sorry to hear that some many of us are having wiorries and discomfiorts. I'm keeping everything crossed that they all turn out to be harmless. I went in for monitoring last week too after a couple of days of reduced movement. All seemed to be ok though which is a relief. And so far, my cholestasis blood tests seem to be coming back clear...

Shiv, soo so glad to hear of the amazing progress little Oliver is making! Long may that continue. Hope you are also doing okay yourself?

Welcome lankslass and other delurkers!


IcingTheCake Mon 22-Apr-13 12:13:48

Welcome Lancslass if you message me, I can add you to the facebook group, always nice to have more people to talk to! smile Hope your pregnancy has been good to you so far?

Welcome LancsLass smile

Sorry to hear everyone has been having worries. sad

dinkystinky Mon 22-Apr-13 13:05:41

Welcome Lancslass - add your details to the stats thread (link up in first post on the thread). Hope your pregnancy is going well.

IcingTheCake Mon 22-Apr-13 15:31:04

Managed to record baby making my whole tummy move with kicks earlier, my mum was so pleased as she always seems to miss the big ones smile

MrsRoss26 Mon 22-Apr-13 16:15:39

Welcome Lancslass.

I hope this isn't insensitive, bearing in mind how wonderfully Oliver is doing, but does anyone else have any idea / feeling that they'll be pre-due date? I have two generations before me with preemies (7-8 weeks is standard!) I'm trying to plan my leave, shopping, decorating etc. around the expectation that babbers will arrive early, but hoping s/he won't!

I hope everyone who's had troubles over the weekend gets things checked out and sorted really easily. I've woken up the past few nights with headaches and niggly pains in my abdomen, but trying to stay calm and not over-think things too much. It's hard not to worry though, not having done this before!

dinkystinky Mon 22-Apr-13 16:27:28

With DS1 I had a feeling he'd be late - he was, and had to be evicted by the drs... With DS2 I had a feeling he'd be early and he was, at 38 weeks. This baby, I'm hoping it will be a little early as our 10 year wedding anniversary is at the end of June and it would be lovely to have a babe in arms for it, but fairly sure it will be more like DS1...

Icing It's great, isn't it? You can him squirm when he moves with me, I am guessing it's because I am so small this time round but you can see every movement! Last night I had a completely flat tummy on one side and a big lump on the other side moving, when I was lying down.

MrsRoss I had been thinking about this but didn't want to ask because of Oliver.

I already have DS and he was born by induction at 38 weeks but this time feels different. I don't know how to explain it. Also, I have a cystocele from DS and have to hold it up while I wee and I can feel the babys head (I think it is a head) lying flush with my cervix and pushing it down.

Devilforasideboard Mon 22-Apr-13 16:35:20

MrsRoss I may well be pre-due date depending how things go with the placenta previa. According to the consultant the best case scenario now is admission at 34 weeks and delivery at 37 but if I bleed earlier they may just whip him out. It's a bit difficult to plan for but I've got a hospital bag ready for me and will add bits for Bobble as I get further along <crosses everything>

notprincesskate I know exactly how you feel re uncomfortableness! I look like a stranded turtle trying to get out of be already. Bobble also has a habit of falling asleep in a really uncomfortable position just before I have to walk somewhere. On the plus side my lovely boss has sorted a parking permit for the car park nearest the office for me so that's a bit less walking to do.

I had my anti-D injection today and a lovely migraine afterwards just when I was about to go shopping for my new big handbag. Not impressed. We've been moved onto an earlier NCT class as the other one was cancelled so that starts this week, good timing really given the possibility of imminent arrival.

So, so glad to hear Oliver's doing well. I shall get myself added to the FB group so I can have a peek.


Runswithsquirrels Mon 22-Apr-13 16:43:25

Hello everyone.

I don't need to try living on one income at present as we are - mine. Trying not to worry though. Trying to convince DP he may have to be a househusband... He's not sold yet!

MrsRoss I thought I was going to 'go late' but had two dreams telling me I was going to go a week early - so we shall see. Bubba is tall so will probably run out of room.

I hope everyone is having a worry free day. I'm off to write more school reports now.


IcingTheCake Mon 22-Apr-13 16:55:11

I know what you mean about being early, i think i just cant imagine waiting any longer than my due date! Me, my OH, my brother, his brother, all on the due dates! So we'll see grin

esme80 Mon 22-Apr-13 17:32:14

I kind of expected to go over with ds when I was getting towards the end as he was my first, was quite pleased when he came 2 days before due, those extra 2 weeks some women go before induction must be very uncomfortable! I think this one will be similar, but who knows?

Abzs Mon 22-Apr-13 17:32:56

Re early/late I saw my mum today and she looked at the bump and declared that she "can't see me lasting until July".

Have now acquired a silver cross pram with car seat and rocker/stand, matching sheets for when it's a crib, changing bag, cot, bits of hardly used clothing and some books. A huge pile of stuff to fit in the car. There are advantages to going third out of my siblings. Though goodness knows what DH will think when he gets back onshore and can't get in the house.

I know what you mean about babies coming early. I was induced with DD at 36 weeks and she came pretty quickly - only needed membranes ruptured and she was out in under 3 hours. No drugs. So I feel like she must've been ready to come out couldn't wait to escape my inadequate placenta I'm hoping this one will stay in a but longer, but 6 days early would be great - I'd love to give birth on my mum's birthday.

Devil - DD is known as Bobble (not her real name)! She was called sproglet whilst in utero, but became Bobble after a few months and it stuck.

Runswithsquirrels Mon 22-Apr-13 19:20:07

Okay, question time - tonic water! I have dreadful leg cramps and am wondering whether to try tonic water. I know Quinine is not recommended during pregnancy but the amount in TW seems so minimal and googling has told me one NHS trust acually recommends it. Any opinions/evidence anyone?

dinkystinky Mon 22-Apr-13 19:33:48

What you need is magnesium Runs - tonic water and bananas are good sources IIRC (and what the MWs recommend) but the only thing that really helped me in my last 2 pregnancies were mag phos (magnesium phosphate) pillules I absorbed under my tongue every few hours.

Runswithsquirrels Mon 22-Apr-13 19:36:21

Okay. I might try the TW tonight as this is what we have here and locate some magnesium in the week.

Runswithsquirrels Mon 22-Apr-13 19:36:30

Thanks BTW.

CitizenOscar Mon 22-Apr-13 19:38:35

Hi everyone - I was another one getting checked out this weekend. Had some bleeding and reduced movements so they suggested I go in. They monitored baby and looked at my cervix & said all ok. Also took swab to test for infection. Felt very relieved after the check. Also saw lovely (male) midwife who I remembered from when I had DS, which was quite reassuring - hopefully they're some more familiar faces when I actually go in to have the baby. Would love to have the same midwife deliver DS2 - she was so lovely - but what are the chances?!

Hope everyone else who had worries this weekend has been reassured. I remember I had something similar at this stage with DS1 so maybe it's something that tends to happen around now?

Getting very envy looking at all the bumps on the FB page.

Citizen I'm glad everything was okay when you were checked, maybe you will get lucky and will see someone you know when you are in labour. smile

MrsWildermac Mon 22-Apr-13 21:43:00

Hi everyone...

Been a while since I posted but have been lurking and keeping up to date with everyone's news.

Just wanted to say Shiv thinking of you and little Oliver and praying that he'll get stronger every day. My DH was born at 26 weeks 34 years ago and was the earliest, smallest baby ever to survive then. Hope little Oliver keeps fighting and getting stronger.

Would love to join the FB group if someone can tell me how!


MrsWildermac Mon 22-Apr-13 21:44:34

Oh, and my midwife recommended TW for leg cramps!

Runswithsquirrels Mon 22-Apr-13 22:13:10

Mrs Wildermac, if you PM me I can add you to the FB group. I'll just need to know yr Facebook name so I can find you!

Thanks for the ref to TW, am going to glue some now!

AmaDablam Tue 23-Apr-13 06:55:12

Morning, thanks for the good wishes and hope everyone else's health niggles/worries have cleared up and turn out to be nothing serious. I have had that side, under the rib-cage pain that others have described too but having mentioned it to both the MW and the out of hours GP, neither seemed to bat an eyelid, so I'm assuming it's fairly normal.

Welcome lancslass, nice to have a date twin! Hope all is going well for you.

Got a parking ticket yesterday - booo. Purely through baby-brain and forgetting that the ticket I bought was only valid for 12 hours and not 24. Just kept thinking about all the nice things for baby I could have spent that £60 on! Still, I think pregnancy and especially stories like Shiv's put everything into perspective a bit - it really isn't the end of the world.

I don't particularly have a "feeling" whether this baby's going to be early or late, but something tells me she is going to surprise us one way or another (last night I dreamt I had a boy, so that could be it, sonographers do get it wrong sometimes!). DH has persuaded me into a weekend away when I will be 35 weeks (provided I feel up to it). I only said yes on the premise that our nearest hospital would be the one where SiL had her boys and she seemed to have a good experience there.


Runswithsquirrels Tue 23-Apr-13 07:42:07

Ama try writing a letter explaining the ticket and see if you get let of. Nothing ventured...

cheekbyjowl Tue 23-Apr-13 08:48:30

Thanks dinky the emergency fund sounds like a good idea as we'll forget things like dental costs etc im sure (do fillings privately)

im assuming I'll be late as its the first. My boss thinks I'll be early as I'm only stopping work.at week 39,the friday before edd. But I also think its a boy, though nothing to go by.

ama sorry about your parking ticket. I get a stitch like pain on lower.right.sometimes but assume its just a twist or cramp as its always when walking and always goes away.

Hey what amazing weather. Will be.lovely having summer babies. Yay!
Oh we finally got our first baby items (no pram yet though) We ordered some from john lewis, I thought.id need to collect from their oxford st store but they deliver to waitrose. How good is that? Ordered on sunday at 3 collect the next day at local supermarket. Thought id tell.people in case its useful

SundaySunshine Tue 23-Apr-13 08:51:20

Morning all,

Wow, great news about Oliver, thanks for the updates. Shiv I hope you and DH are managing to get some rest.

Sorry to hear that some of you have had baby worries over the weekend, glad to see most of you have been given the all clear.

I have no idea if boy babe will be coming early or not, DD was 12 days late, but I'm hoping that won't be repeated this time, it was so uncomfortable in the hot August sun.

I'm also already on a single income, just my measly pt wage, but luckily we have already adapted to frugal living so it won't be too much of a culture shock for us.

I have just booked a short holiday in the May half term to the Kent coast, I'll be 36 weeks, and I'll have to do all the driving as DH can't drive, so I hope I haven't been too ambitious hmm. I'll definately be taking my notes on that trip.

Right we're of to 'the beach' while the sun is still shining. Hope everyone has a lovely day.

notprincesskate Tue 23-Apr-13 09:00:39

I had DD at 31 weeks for severe PET and have been told in a not if, but when way to expect this one to also be early, again due to PET, so I'm fully expecting to have had jumping bean by the time I'm 36 weeks, although keep hoping they might be wrong.
Got my weekly appt with midwife today to check BP and urine, so fingers crossed I get to keep cooking, also want the pain in L hand side looked at again and feels like nerve pain rather than muscular, also have a couple of blister like spots, so have self diagnosed, wonder if I'm right wink.
On a completely different note (not looking at photographer in anyway, I think there are a few interested in photography on here and was wondering if anyone would recommend one of these online courses, in particular the one on group-on at mo, I'm very amateur, but hoping to use some time on mat leave to improve.

dinkystinky Tue 23-Apr-13 09:09:14

Cheek - the emergency fund is a great buffer and means you dont get shafted when (for example) your car breaks down. The other thing I found really useful (and still do now, even though I'm back at work full time) was to plan ahead for big expenses (e.g. Christmas/holidays) by setting a budget and setting aside a small amount of cash each month from groceries from about 5 months before the event in question - and keeping an eye out for bargains. You know you can get free NHS dental care for a year post birth (your maternity exemption card covers this)? Is a life saver as my teeth are always rubbish during and post pregnancy.

Ama - what a pain re the parking ticket. DH has appealed, and won the appeal, lots of parking tickets - he's never pleaded pregnancy brain though grin Worth a go as Runs says. Enjoy your weekend away - we did a weekend away when I was 36 weeks with DS1 and it was lovely to have a last couples weekend before the baby arrived.

Runs - hope your cramps passed. Figs, peas, green leafy veg also apparently good magnesium sources. Makes me wonder if that's the reason I havent had cramps so bad this time round as have been eating veggies more than usual.

dinkystinky Tue 23-Apr-13 09:13:19

Only half my last post posted! Here's the other half:

Sunday - DS1 was induced at 42 weeks, DS2 arrived at 38 weeks totally spontaneously and it was a quick labour and birth so hope it will be the same for you. We're off to Dorset and then legoland (for 2 days) over May half term when I'll be 34/35 weeks and my notes (in their water proof pack) will be coming with me too. Fortunately I wont be driving as I hate driving at the best of times. Sooo envious of your trip to the beach. Fancy swapping and sitting in an office (which doesnt even have an external window) for the day, drafting shareholder agreements? No? Strange that...

Also, anyone on the look out for a bargain steriliser, Amazon have the Avent microwave steriliser on sale for £12. I'm getting it for use for breast shells and dummies/pump bits if needed, and then for use with bottles when I return to work.

NotprincessKate - good luck for your MW appointment today - hope it goes well and you do indeed get to keep cooking your little one for as long as you'd like. Doing a photography course sounds like a great idea! Never been on one but would love to do one at some point.

Quinandthem Tue 23-Apr-13 09:22:50

(tried posting this yesterday but it failed)

Glad little Oliver is fighting - everyday he will be getting stronger

I feel for everyone in the pregnancy wars.

On Saturday morning I managed to trip over on completely flat ground! Managed to land on my forearm/elbow and knee so don’t think bump touched the ground. But we then had a really busy weekend including going out for dinner with friends and our first NCT sale. And it wasn’t till Sunday lunchtime that I realised that I hadn’t really felt bump move that much – normally only feel it when still i.e. in bed or after dinner since my placenta is at the front.

So I went to the drop-in midwife this morning for a check-up, she listened to HB and all was well but she wanted me to go to the maternity day assessment unit to have a proper monitor.

Anyway, off I went and they were so nice, didn’t feel like I was bothering them at all. So after 20 mins on the HB monitor all is well.

They said they would rather see us if we have any concerns.

I really dont want to go late (and need to be induced), but presume I will since it's my first.

IcingTheCake Tue 23-Apr-13 09:35:03

quin i am so glad everything is okay! Definitely agree its best to get checked and everything is fine than the other way around x

I hadnt been getting any proper bump pains until just now i sat with my feet up, sort of curled up and got a massive shooting pain down the left side of my bump confused i moved my legs and it eased off but a bit hmm as to why its happened at all, anyone else had this?

dinkystinky Tue 23-Apr-13 09:37:28

Quin - I posted on the last thread about my pregnancy clumsiness (managed to pour soup down myself on more than one occasion now...) so dont worry, its really common. Glad you and the baby are both ok and hope your bruises fade soon.

Icing - is it all the way down your left side of your bump or more near the bottom? It could be nerve pain, caused by how you were sitting, or the baby simply letting you know it didnt like the position. If more near your bum, might be linked to your sciatica.

IcingTheCake Tue 23-Apr-13 09:45:27

It was the top 2/3, really strange pain, probably just baby protesting, wouldnt be surprised at her kicking up a fuss if shes anything like me haha

bigbelly4 Tue 23-Apr-13 09:54:16

Hello ladies.

Re early births, my 3 were all born at 38 weeks and all weighed the same so I am hoping this one will follow the same pattern. That said it will probably be the polar opposite and be late and a whopper!

Currently having a lazy day after a hectic start trying to nit comb DD, get breakefast and three unenthusiastic children dressed, fed, teeth brushed and to school. Could have done without the nitty noras making an appearance - got all the buggers though!

My youngests teacher has just announced her pregnancy- which is lovely and ds is being very loving and gentle with her and rubbing her back and holding her hand!

I had my swab results back from my bleed just over a week ago, and all is ok, no gbs but do have another infection but apparentlyno antibiotics unless symptomatic - note to self: dont speak to dr on hands free in car with friend in car unless you want to run through the colour and smell of discharge in front of them! Thankfully mine is ok but im not sure who was more embarrassed her or me!

Also, what do I actually need to a home birth, have read so many different list, but what do I actually need? Lots of peopletrying to sell stuff thati dont really think I will need!

Is anyone starting to get nervous knowing that term is no further than the time it would take to get to the 12 week scan? confused

BigBelly Glad your results came back okay.

I'm having a homebirth too. I will be buying a waterproof sheet for the bed and stuff to put on the floor to protect the carpet, my pool, snacks for MWs and stuff and making a CD of music to listen to and candles and I have spotlights as well. Packing a hospital bag just in case, sea salt and tea tree for the bath afterwards etc.

IcingTheCake Tue 23-Apr-13 10:11:36

schro oh god i never thought of it like that shock

Icing Makes you panic, doesn't it!? I only started thinking about it the other night when I was thinking how quickly this time has gone in.

dinkystinky Tue 23-Apr-13 11:19:32

I actually find it a reassuring thought that from Thursday its only 10 weeks away till term for me - makes the humungo bump less ridiculous.

Bigbelly - nitcombing in the morning. That's a rubbish way to have to start your day. Hope you got the buggers. Glad your swab was ok but LOL at your discharge conversation in front of your friend. My friends who had homebirths had waterproof sheets, towels, birth pool, snacks and emergency bag packed just in case.

BadMissM Tue 23-Apr-13 11:35:31

I have no idea when mine will actually be...if it all goes like DD, will be 4 weeks from now, if I get my ELCS, about 11 weeks..... if I go to term, 14!

I am packing bags and finishing the room just in case!!!

Bigbelly The only consolation I found for nits was buying all the damn nit lotion from Boots so I collected a zillion points on my Advantage Card...and could spend them on something nice to make up for the nits!

Bah, have managed to mess up dyeing some baby stuff...all come out streaky and rubbish. Serves me right for putting too much in (but am still miffed). Back to painting for me!!

Quinandthem Tue 23-Apr-13 11:37:43

My SIL is having a CS on Wednesday (tomorrow) as the baby is breech.

I think they have all they need regarding the baby, so does anyone have any good ideas for presents for her (not getting my brother anything as he hasn't done any of the hard work!).

I've been in denial that we are having a baby but i think them having theirs will make it all too real!

photographerlady Tue 23-Apr-13 11:57:49

Hey notprincess what sort of photography training you looking for? What sort of camera you have is it point and shoot or DSLR? Depending your location meetup.com has some great online hands on courses or maybe your local photography society. Always welcome to message me with any questions. The lovely thing about babies is that you always have a little subject to clickaway and get better smile

MightBeMad Tue 23-Apr-13 12:28:02

I still feel like the birth is ages away. I think because my due date just got chaged (only by a few days) it feels like I've been about 26 weeks forever smile Now 26+4 so still over 13 weeks to go (unless baby arrives early or I have to be induced for cholestasis). Still, I finish work in 5 weeks so I'm counting down to that at the moment!! Not even thought about packing my hospital bag or washing baby clothes. I plan to do that when I'm on mat leave. Fingers crossed baby doesn't have other ideas!

BB01 Tue 23-Apr-13 13:06:39

Ooh this talk of photography reminds me about my poor attempts at trying to learn how to use my DSLR (bought last year). Had a really enthusiastic few trips out with DH to try to put what we read in our photography book to good use, and then life took over and it has gone on the backburner. Hopefully wanting to get some half decent shots of the baby will spur us back onto it!

BB01 Tue 23-Apr-13 13:08:28

Any other runners/joggers now finding it hard going? I have been going for the most pathetic of jogs down the canal towpath (nice and soft underfoot) but even that is now getting a bit uncomfortable. I just feel a bit stitchy really low down and it seems to set off the braxton hicks. Really would have liked to have kept on going but considering switching to speed walking instead (along with pilates/yoga/stretching and weights when I can be bothered).

cheekbyjowl Tue 23-Apr-13 13:12:06

Its slightly better as most of us were already 5/6 weeks pregnant when we found out. I think 2 and a bit months away sounds longer than 11 weeks. I still need to find a house shock

shelley72 Tue 23-Apr-13 13:16:21

schro and others planning a HB, last time round my MW said that a good floor covering is a 'value' shower curtain i think that they can be picked up really cheaply in supermarkets. also an anglepoise lamp / headlamp etc in case of stitching. also a cheap sieve if you are having a pool. apart from that i dont think that any 'special' equipment was required at all. feel quite jealous of those of you planning a HB envy.

quin not sure about presents for your SIL - after my CS what i really loved was when my mum came round and helped with ironing / hoovering etc as wasnt allowed to do that for a while and being stuck on sofa just had to look at the mess! i didnt use any of the lovely 'smellies' that people were kind enough to buy me - they felt too pefumed / fragranced for using with the scar and also wanted my baby to smell me. what WAS fab though was the expensive hand cream that work bought me - you will be amazed how often you wash your hands with a little one. oh and lots of glossy magazines to flick through whilst you're stuck feeding.

realised today that if i go for a CS, only have about 8 weeks left of being pregnant sad

BB01 Tue 23-Apr-13 13:55:25

Re homebirths, I picked up 2 shower curtains from Ikea for about £1.50 each! Also got some big waterproof pad things from Boots.

dinkystinky Tue 23-Apr-13 14:15:16

Quin - lots of homecooked meals and someone to do the cleaning (especially laundry)will probably be well received! Other than that, if you live near, offers to run errands that need to be run will go down well. Nice handcream

BB01 - I stopped doing combat a couple of weeks ago as was getting aches below. Definitely need to listen to your body and switch to something else if its getting uncomfortable.

photographerlady Tue 23-Apr-13 14:24:34

BB01 my biggest advice is spend a week shooting with your camera in AV mode (aperture priority) So you only adjust the iris (how much light you put in the camera). Take a photo and at 5.6, then drop it down to 4, then lower number and it makes the photos brighter. Then go the other way 7, 9, 11... but always base it off 5.6 or 4 to start. The higher the numbers the less light getting in - darker the photo/more depth of field.
AV mode lets the camera do all the hard work but you adjust the aperture to get better photos. Better than if you were in all AUTO settings

After a few weeks then you switch to TV mode. Which is shutter speed. This adjust the range there and you will see your images get blurrier or sharper. Slowly you will understand both AV mode - setting your aperture and then TV mode, setting your shutter and you are ready to go to manual smile

photographerlady Tue 23-Apr-13 14:26:00

shelly (hugs) I hope they can give you some answers, look after yourself!

notprincesskate Tue 23-Apr-13 15:18:02

Thanks for the info photographer I have a DSLR, which I like to think I'm reasonably competent with, although I might just use your advice to BB01 as well, to get back to basics, not really sure what I am looking for to be honest, I should join the local photography club, but I'm too much of a scaredy cat blush.
All good with the midwife today for another week, with the exception of the diagnosed muscular skeletal pain, which in fact is shingles ouch, double ouch that the usual things given seem to be a bit of a no no in pregnancy, unless it gets really bad.

photographerlady Tue 23-Apr-13 15:22:39

Lovely stuff notprincesskate I am teaching my DH to use my DSLR and I put him on AV mode, its really the best way to get images that aren't all blown out (too light and not depth of field) which AUTO mode tends to do. He has taken some really nice photos in AV mode and is starting to understand why the camera is then presetting the shutter and ISO for him. Nice thing is if you nail an image and it looks nice you can also press the info button in preview to see what the Aperture, shutter and ISO settings were.

BadMissM Tue 23-Apr-13 15:52:49

DH after a new DSLR, the CPU on his died.... he's currently borrowing a friend's..but I do want to get him a new one, he loves photography, and given a good camera, takes beautiful pics you just can't achieve with my point and shoot... Also this time I'd like some pictures of me and my LO, there are hardly any of me and DD as I was always the one behind the camera!

photographerlady Tue 23-Apr-13 16:06:21

I hear you BadmissM I have no photos of me hehe. Time to train up those Partners.

VinegarDrinker Tue 23-Apr-13 16:12:26

Hope everyone is enjoying the sun, I've had a day off work, MW appointment this morning and teaching medical students this afternoon. Just about to go and get DS from nursery and get an ice cream grin

30 weeks exactly today!

BB01 Tue 23-Apr-13 17:07:01

Thank you so much Photographer! This is really helpful. Will definitely try your tips. I've generally used aperture priority mode since I got it unless really in a rush then I've reverted to auto! But altho in theory I know how it works, I always forget what to do in practice. The way you described it makes sense though!
Thanks again :-)

Thanks Shelley although no head lamp for me as I'm not allowed stitches.

26+4 <I think>

Thinkingof4 Tue 23-Apr-13 19:47:18

Hi all
shiv lovely to hear that Oliver is doing so well, I was thinking about you today hoping improvements continue.

Sorry to hear about those who have had trips to hospital over weekend, hope you are all resting and recovering now.

Interesting to hear about how late/early everyone's babies have been- all 3 of mine were overdue, ds1 +13, but ds2 and ds3 only 3 days over. Had to be induced with first 2 but not third. I don't mind if I go 3 days over again as that takes us to start of school holidays here so I wouldn't even have to think about school run with 4 kids for 6 weeks or so!
I kind of think every woman has a natural gestation and for some this is 38 weeks and for others nearer 42, but I don't know if there is any evidence to back up my theory??
30 weeks today, 6 weeks left at work, kind of feeling like I'm on the home straight now, but really 10/11/12 weeks is quite a long time

lancslass83 Tue 23-Apr-13 20:12:35

Thanks for all the welcomes, pregnancy all good so far, lots of annoying niggles and sorely missing the g&t's but no major probs.

I'm another runner who's had to give up, kept trying to up until about 22 weeks but just succeeded in giving myself spd so switched to swimming and yoga and feel much better for it, very jealous of all the runners out in the sunny evenings now though.

Quin - I second the hand cream & magazines suggestions for your SIL. Also nice snacks for whilst BFing - fancy cereal bars, chocolate, dried fruits. Maybe a home-made equivalent of a graze box. If she's a cheese or wine lover then something she's been missing for the last 9 months.

BB01 - I really miss running, but I think when it starts to get uncomfortable or you start to leak a bit of pee it's time to stop. Unfortunately I haven't had enough time to find a replacemt activity. There just don't seem to be enough hours in the day.

notprincess - ouch! Shingles! Hope you recover quickly.

I've had a really busy day at work and I'm got a stinking cold, so I'll be having a very lazy evening watching tv.

dinkystinky Tue 23-Apr-13 20:39:20

Ouch re the shingles NotprincessKate - sounds painful!

Vinegar I hope you and ds enjoyed your ice cream in the sun! V jealous.

Discovered a new delightful pregnancy symptom at yoga tonight - hot flushes! Joy of joys

MrsRoss26 Tue 23-Apr-13 20:54:17

Schro - that's one way of looking at it - and completely shocking us all! Yikes.On the flip side, I figured that I have just 8 1/2 weeks left at work now, and that does make me smile!

Quin I love the hand cream advice - that's a great thought. Having had such horrid dry hands through the last 4 months it sounds like an extra good idea. I may have to suggest this to my colleagues....

Baby is definitely getting a lot more active now. I can feel kicks, thumps, what I suspect is hiccups, and wriggles at really steady intervals throughout the day now. It's just starting to get exciting now that bump is out and proud and my PGP/SPD seems to be receding now that I'm resting more.

I hope everyone who was welding to their desks/jobs inside today get some evening or weekend sunshine to make up for it! Can you all feel how lovely it will be to have summer babies now?


VinegarDrinker Tue 23-Apr-13 21:06:41

Re the early/late chat, DS was born (spontaneously) at 38+5 and was already pretty good sized at 8 lb 9 oz, and this one was bigger than him at the 20 week scan, so kind of hoping she evicts herself between 38 and 39 weeks too...

WeeS Tue 23-Apr-13 21:55:56

Hello! Hope you don't mind me popping in again! Was at the start of the year. Hoping everyone is well. Shiv, thinking of you & baby Oliver.

paolocee Tue 23-Apr-13 22:27:57

Been very busy last 10 days or so but caught up with Shiv's story. Oh my, close to tears reading the last message. Bloody sympathy symptoms.
Go Oliver!

MarieKL Tue 23-Apr-13 22:46:03

Shiv Its lovely to hear Oliver is growing stronger every day. I hope you and your family are doing okay as well. (thanks for the update Dinky)

Sorry to hear about all the worries that are being checked out, but great to know that everyone and their bumps are okay. Ouch to shingles and other assorted pains/colds etc. Lets hope this is a better week for everyone.

Quin Hand cream and snacks sound perfect. I was also given PJs when I had DS1 which I really appreciated as had night sweats during the first few weeks after birth and between that and not quite positioning myself correctly on the toilet in the middle of the night blush I managed to get through quite a few sets of PJs over several nights!

I have no idea when wriggles will arrive, but agree its a scary thought that I won't be pg for that much longer. DS was 1 hour and 40 mins late! Something similar this time round would be lovely.

Vingear Ice-cream sounds delicious. Bigbelly I hope your day got better.

Really enjoying the photography conversation. My DH takes amazing pictures, but I always feel bad as it means its generally me and DS in them!

Quick question, does anyone know if its okay to eat soft cheese like the Philadelphia sort? I really, really want some, but remember reading somewhere that it either was or wasn't alright to eat! confused

Grannyapple Wed 24-Apr-13 08:27:17

Hi ladies...GTT this morning-I'm hungry already hmm

Philadelphia is totally fine in pg-it's made with pasteurised milk. I certainly haven't stopped eating it!

BB01 Wed 24-Apr-13 08:32:16

Philadelphia is fine in pregnancy :-)

Thanks re the running comments (sorry to not name check). I agree you have to listen to your body and figure at least I've kept it up til 30 weeks almost which isn't bad.

Yes another one here with hot flushes! Am generally a lot warmer than I normally am but get moments of intense heat! Layers are my best friend at the mo esp in stressful work meetings!

MightBeMad Wed 24-Apr-13 09:05:31

Morning all! V impressed with running until 30 weeks. I haven't made it to the gym at all yet this week, must get back to it!

Hope everyone is doing well. Esp Oliver and shiv!


dinkystinky Wed 24-Apr-13 09:19:23

BB01 - I've taken to carrying a cold bottle of water with me everywhere to help counter the hot flushes. Nice taste of what menopause has in store for us!

Looks like another beautiful day out there. DS1 turns 7 tomorrow - he was born in 2006 when we had that glorious long warm summer and I remember the weather when I was being induced being just like today - rather hope its going to be another lovely summer this year with our little ones.

Cream cheese is fine! I have practically been living off tubs of it and breadsticks. blush

Weather isn't nice so far here. sad

RE: Hot flushes... Go to poundland and they sell bottles of spray stuff, it's a cooling spray and it's like a mist of cold water. It's brilliant, I had about 3 bottles of it in my hospital bag last time as the labour/postnatal ward is so hot it feels like you are in a sauna.

I have no idea why it's like that, they said it was to keep the babies warm but SCBU is nowhere near as hot.

photographerlady Wed 24-Apr-13 11:38:12

Re: Hot Flushes. I join you ladies on that one, I usually have duvets wrapped around me all summer but the past few weeks I am soo warm, last night I woke up and even got out the fan. Thank goodness for fruit pastels lollies at work. Nice tip on the spray bottles SchoroSaw because hospitals are so swampy

I'm always cold, so I was hoping I'd get some of the pregnancy warmth everyone seems to talk about, but no luck yet. Hot flushes don't sound like much fun though. I think I'll stick with my multiple layers.

BB01 Wed 24-Apr-13 12:11:22

Ooh will check out poundland! Was almost tempted in Boots but it seemed really expensive for a bit of water in a can!!

BB01 If you have no luck in Poundland (they usually always have them though) Tesco and Asda sell them for about £3 as well.

BB01 Wed 24-Apr-13 12:39:16

Thanks schro, that's brill

IndecisivePramBuyer81 Wed 24-Apr-13 12:53:38

Hey ladies

Sorry for no personal responses but I have a quick question and have been quite worried this morning...

I woke up with a bit of a pain on the lower right side of my bump (it kind of felt like I was being pulled from the inside almost?), and having walked 15, 20 mins to work I was completely out of puff and the entire lower area of my bump kind of felt like I'd done a load of sit ups yesterday or something. I also felt light headed/faint and had a bit of a hot flush..

Not really sure if I should be concerned or not? The pain has gone now, but bump still feels a bit tense and I have what feels like period now..could it be mild Braxton Hicks? Is it possible to sleep through Braxton Hicks and I've just woken up with a sore bump perhaps?

Baby is fine and moving as normal, and I don't want to worry about things unnecessarily, but this is new so I thought I'd ask on here!

MightBeMad Wed 24-Apr-13 13:10:26

Indecisive, could well be BH, they leave me feeling rather out of breath and tight. Or the discomfort low down on the side of your bump sounds like what I experience for ligament pain - often comes on in bed, moving around, a bit like a stitich or something. I would always say though that if you are worried, speak to your midwife and get checked out.

In my experience, pregnancy is full of benign aches and pains (to the extent pain is ever bengin - but you know what I mean). First time around particularly I was amazed at how painful it was at times, and yet nothing was wrong, it was all within the realms of normal. So I think it's more than likely that you have absolutely nothing to worry about. That said, I'm not medically qualified and it's impossible for anyone to diagnose you over the internet so I'm always worried about giving false reassurance to someone - hence my comment that if you are worried, to get checked out, for your peace of mind.

IndecisivePramBuyer81 Wed 24-Apr-13 13:34:14

Thanks for the quick response MightBeMad

I've had quite a lot of ligament pain but most of it has been on the top of my bump so I spose it might feel a bit different in a different area!

I'm inclined to think that if baby seems OK it's probably a 'normal' pain but as it's playing on my mind I guess I just wanted some reassurance. Will see how it goes. I have a Doctor appointment on Friday anyway so I'll mention it then.

It's all glamour this pregnancy lark mind!! hmm

dinkystinky Wed 24-Apr-13 13:56:32

Indecisive - it could be overdoing it (did you do alot yesterday/this morning) or braxton hicks or it could be that you've pulled something down there. I agree with Mightbe - if you're worried, give your MW/labour ward a call and ask for advice. Also make sure you're well hydrated (as being dehydrated can make Braxton Hicks worse).#

Mightbe - hope all is ok. Might it be rib pain as they stretch out?

Schro - I had one of those mist sprays when I went in to give birth to DS1. I thought I'd love it but it annoyed the hell out of me in no time at all! I clearly get v tetchy in labour...

IndecisivePramBuyer81 Wed 24-Apr-13 14:20:58

Dinky - I don't think I'm overdoing anything, but I'm finding it difficult to slow down to be honest! Yesterday was just a normal day in my world so I'm not sure..haven't been right since I had the whooping cough vaccination on Thursday to be honest. I saw a few people on here had similar reactions though. Baby seems to be doing his best to reassure me this afternoon so I'm feeling much better smile but def call if anything changes.

I really didn't expect pregnancy to be like this - I was expecting 9 months of being able to eat what I liked, shiny hair/skin and some discomfort at the end...naive eh? lol

Meant to say I've been recommended mist sprays as a must have and Poundland/various bargain shops have the MUCH cheaper than Boots!

I also think you are all mad for even considering running..!!

photographerlady Wed 24-Apr-13 14:21:05

Afternoon all. I feel like I am in the slowest countdown ever. The last three weeks I trained my replacements and training another hub next week til I leave at the end of May but I am soooooo bored. I delegate work and feel like I am just counting down every day til maternity leave.

dinkystinky Wed 24-Apr-13 14:30:11

Ha, yes Indecisive - no one really tells you about the less glamorous side of pregnancy beforehand. I think its because the human race might die out if they did grin

That said, despite being the size of a small spacehopper, I do love being pregnant - I love feeling the little one moving around inside me and wondering what their personality will be like.

Ah, the glamours of pregnancy. I've been incredibly windy lately. I keep letting out sneaky farts at work blush. Haven't been caught yet though and luckily they seem to be mostly fairly quiet and not particularly malodorous!! hopefully that's not just because I have a cold

Someone at work just commented that my bump seems to have suddenly expanded overnight, which made me smile, but my arms seem to be getting scrawny. What's that all about??

IndecisivePramBuyer81 Wed 24-Apr-13 18:30:41

I've been letting out sneaky ones at work when I can for some time. .unfortunately had an unexpected not-so-cheeky one in the toilets the other day and had to wait for everyone to leave! blush

Beginningofthejourney Wed 24-Apr-13 18:38:48

Hi everyone, good to see everyone is feeling glamorous!
I had one of my extra scans today (due to IVF) bubba is still big! Long legs, 95th centile or head and tummy [shocked] estimated weight is 3lbs 6oz, bump is measuring perfect for dates so I'm in denial that bubba is big!! Got another scan beginning of June (just before I'm due to go to Wales for very good friend's wedding!) so will have a rough idea about bubba's final weight!
Any Facebook people had an Oliver update today?

Runswithsquirrels Wed 24-Apr-13 18:41:52

I haven't seen an Oliver update on FB so far today.

Hai1988 Wed 24-Apr-13 18:56:08

Hi everyone, another thread my godness you lot can talk smile

Sorry so many posts cant mention everyone but just wanted to say Congratulations to shiv My thoughts go out to little Oliver

Also congrats on the 4d scan going well ellie

A few updates here are had my 4d scan and all is well, we had it confirmed that we are indeed having a girl which put my mind at rest.

Also had my 28 week mw app this week and all is good there, bloods just came back as slightly anemic (sp?) but other than that all good and healthy.

Having the whooping cough Jab on Friday, not looking forward to that (needle phobic) but it must be done.

Just been sorting through my clutter in the flat atm getting ready for the move which unfortunately will probably now not be under late June which is cutting it fine a bit but want to be in the new house and have nursery done before she arrives really so,will just have to take it easy and let others really help out with moving day.

Hope everyone is keeping well smile


Hai1988 Wed 24-Apr-13 18:56:38

ooo and forgot to ask how do i find the facebook group??

Twinklestarstwinklestars Wed 24-Apr-13 19:11:29

Hai have pm'd you about the group as its a secret group.

Twinkle, not sure if I missed a post when I was on holiday, but how is your baby's heart complications? Did you get your referral?
Notprincess sorry about shingles, all you need!
Shiv hope today was a good day.
Does anyone have a good list/ know of a good one for newborn kit?- I know more or less what I'll need but not quantities. Ie for Muslims etc

MarieKL Wed 24-Apr-13 20:15:09

Thanks for the cheese advice. Schro I love the idea of breadsticks, may have to go via the shops tomorrow, in the meantime it's crumpets and cheese for tea.

Indecisive Glad you're feeling better. It's so hard to know what to worry about and what's just a normal part of pg.

Interesting thoughts about the mist sprays. I can't stand them generally, irrational fear about having water sprayed in my face, but given how hot labour wards are I can see me fancying one whilst in labour. Will investigate poundland.

Grannyapple, I hope your GTT went okay, and *Palocoee hope everything is okay with you too.

Has everyone else been offered the Whopping cough jab? My MW hasn't even mentioned it!

MarieKL Wed 24-Apr-13 20:18:58

Princess, no idea on lists, but with DS I brought one packet of 16 Muslims thinking that was a crazy amount and within a week had brought another pack as DS seemed to bring up milk at every feed! He now carries them around as comforters so well worth the investment!

dinkystinky Wed 24-Apr-13 20:53:56

Lol at the stealth (and not so stealthy) farts!

Hai glad you had a good 4d scan. Beginning - stay in denial! I grow big babies - ds1 was a 9 over and ds2 was 8 lbs 6 oz when born at 38 weeks - both over 91st percentile but it was fine.

Lol at the investing in Muslims. I think baby books and pregnancy magazines normally have the kinds of lists you are looking for Princess llama.

Abzs Wed 24-Apr-13 22:11:52

My dh has bought a bale of 60 terry cloths he found in the auto parts aisle at Costco. Rather cheaper than any packs of muslin ones that I've seen, and more substantial. I might even let him have a couple for cleaning the car with.

I've arrived home from the south lands with a big pile of stuff DB2 & SIL2 had in storage, so there'd better be good weather in may when I finish work so I can tackle washing it all.

dinkystinky Thu 25-Apr-13 06:31:35

Shiv posted on FB last night - another mixed day for Team Oliver. On the plus side, he has put on 20grams, is off the jaundice light and has opened his eyes for the first time. Unfortunately his blood pressure isn't stable, meaning possible transfusions needed which are a potential issue due to the grade 4 and 2 bleeds on his brain, and he is now developing morphine resistance. So, small steps forward, but team Oliver, and Shiv and her DH, will need us all to send them love and strength, and keep them in our prayers, still.

Thanks for the update, dinky

BB01 Thu 25-Apr-13 11:01:00

TK Maxx have some lovely reusable wipes in at the mo. Sorry I can't remember the brand but it's quite a luxurious one. They seem about half the RRP and are soooo soft!

MrsRoss26 Thu 25-Apr-13 11:04:34

Thanks for the update dinky (can't access FB at work!) Here's hoping that Oliver keeps gaining weight and improving. He's always on my mind at the moment.

photographerlady Thu 25-Apr-13 11:31:43

Hai1988 glad to hear everything is well, what sort of things do they cover in your 28 week appointment? heard anything about anti-d?

Hows everyone's baby buying going? Prams, Cots, chair/swings, slings, clothes etc. Much left to get or haven't you started yet?

dinkystinky Thu 25-Apr-13 12:22:36

Baby buying done and dusted here Photographer - with the exception of an enormous pot of sudocreme (top tip for first timers - after the first couple of weeks, when putting baby to bed at night time slap on a huge layer of barrier cream when doing the last change of the night) - it means you wont need to change them again in the night and will avoid fully waking them up that way. Got given that tip by a doula/ex special care nurse after I had ds1. Regardless of the sex of this baby its going in all DS1 and DS2's old stuff - just need to wash it all.

Abzs - sounds like you're all set for baby now (washing aside). Have the caravans moved on?

Hai1988 Thu 25-Apr-13 13:12:04

Photographer My 28 week check just consisted of urine sample check, blood tests, bp test, measured bump and heard heartbeat heard. Also was told to book appointment for the whooping cough jab, which mine is tomorrow sad

Baby Buying almost done, just need some more sheets for moses basket, then just the feeding side of things (steriliser, bottles, formula ect..)

Other than that think im all done, although I'm sure ll find an excuse to buy more stuff smile

MrsRoss26 Thu 25-Apr-13 14:15:42

Blimey, you're doing well Hai! We have so far bought a moses basket, have a pram on order, had a few outfits / knitted goodies given by relatives, and been given a Baby Bjorn carrier. Other than that, we're picking up a second hand cot from an eBay seller this weekend and that's it! I can't wait to find other furniture for the baby's room so I can organise toiletries, buy nappies and decorate generally.

I like the sudocrem and wipes tips dinky and BB01, thanks.

I seem to have moved back into heartburn territory this week. Is anyone else wincing with this wondrous pregnancy issue?

Hey everyone, just checking in.

Glad to see people getting on with the buying things! We have a pram (double) and a couple of outfits but so far, that's it.

MrsRoss I have acid reflux right now, it's fecking horrible. I've been using those Gaviscon instant powder things and ranitadine they work quite well.

Knackered today, got to sleep after 2am after spending practically the full day in Maternity Assesment for the second day running and was up at 6am this morning looking for my cat. hmm Had another productive day spent in hospital today, peeing on mirrors! grin

BB01 Thu 25-Apr-13 16:14:43

We've been given nearly everything we need (mostly secondhand) from lovely friends and family so keep thinking we have nothing left to buy. However, every conversation I have with someone who's recently had a baby has gone like this:

Me: 'What do I need to buy?'
Them: 'Oh hardly anything! Babies don't need much!! OH but you MUST get such and such...it was my one must-have thing I didn't know I'd need until the time'...

Cue getting back onto ebay for another shopping expedition :-)

BB01 Thu 25-Apr-13 16:17:19

Photographer, I had my anti-d booked when I went for an early anti-d shot (after falling over!!) but otherwise mw would have booked it at my last appointment (which I think was more like 26 weeks rather than 28). Are you rhesus negative too?

shelley72 Thu 25-Apr-13 16:26:09

ooh i love baby or any other type of shopping!

we finally went up to the loft yesterday and got down our moses basket which was surprisingly dirty given that it had been well wrapped and that DD only used it twice! took all of the covers off and soaked them in napisan overnight and given it a lovely hot wash today and it seems to be as good as new. just need to buy a new mattress.

if the baby is a boy we probably wont need to buy anything clothing wise for at least 2 years shock. i know he was is my pfb but i cannot believe just how many clothes DS has had in his little life. i feel really quite sorry for DD as there was hardly any of hers (though she is still wearing some of her 12-18mth clothing). we do need some new sleepsuits though, we have quite a few tiny baby sze but not many newborn. will wait and see how big this one is measuring nearer the time. apart from that i can't think what else we need, keep thinking there must be something i've forgotten?!

all has settled down with me now spotting/movement wise so thats a relief, just very tired after having some sleepless nights. have next MW appointment next week and im trying to get an appointment without much luck for the whooping cough jab. i was going through some feeding stuff this morning and made me realise how much i had forgotten, and a bit worried that i wont know how to feed my baby shock.

glad to hear news of shiv and oliver, i hope that he's having a better day today. i am wondering whether to venture into the world of facebook. i dont use it and dont understand it really and i dont want to be known to the whole world and have random people contact me and knowing my every move! is there a way of getting round that? it seems so complicated!!!

IcingTheCake Thu 25-Apr-13 16:36:48

Hey everyone smile its been a couple of days since i posted and im on my phone so sorry i cant name, but glad to hear everyones keeping well and any problems are being sorted! Had my birthday yesterday, so got very spoilt (baby and me) but had an awful nights sleep last night! Got up for a wee and couldnt get back to sleep for almost two hours! sad But were going for a 4D scan in about 2 hours grin im so excited!

Hope everybody is okay and enjoying their bumps smile

dinkystinky Thu 25-Apr-13 17:04:06

Happy birthday for yesterday Icing - glad you had a good one. I too had a rubbish nights sleep last night - think its due to ongoing pregnancy hot flushes!

Schro - sounds like a fun couple of days, not! Still hopefully you're all sorted out for now which has to be a relief.

Glad all settled down with you now Shelley - it must be a huge relief. Know what you mean about feeding the baby - its been almost a year and a half since I last bf and I really cant remember much about it at all!
Will try to do some reading on kellymom and look up local bf support groups towards the end of May.

shelley72 Thu 25-Apr-13 17:16:46

its been less than six months for me so i really have no excuse. but feeding a toddler is much different isnt it, you dont need to think you just kind of do it! i am hoping that it will be one of those things that just comes back to you once you've done it once (or twice) and that the baby is keen too.

happy birthday icing and hope you enjoy the 4d scan. i've never had one. have to let me know what its like!

Runswithsquirrels Thu 25-Apr-13 17:21:38

Photographer my 28 week midwife appt was:
doppler to listen to heart
Anti D jab
Answering questions
Pee pot

PhieEl06 Thu 25-Apr-13 17:46:40

Hello strangers I've just had to catch up on 6 pages of thread! I hope you're all well, I can't even remember what's been talked about over the last few days so sorry for no names or being at all up to speed on conversation.

icing I hope you had a lovely birthday!! & your 4D scan goes well.

Re baby shopping I have so so much already that I need to sort out when I can be bothered enough clothes to last the first 6 months in a range of sizes however I think what my family are forgetting is when she will fit into the 6-9 month old summer dresses which are oh so cute, it will actually be winter. hmm Mainly at the moment buying holiday clothes for myself, as I go away in just over a week & have nothing to wear, when we get back though its all baby baby baby, her room will be decorated, cot, wardrobes & other furniture purchased & last few things organised.

My motivation at the moment has gone out the window, have a very bad case of cannot be arsed syndrome!! 27+5

Persuasion Thu 25-Apr-13 18:06:36

dinky thanks for the update on shiv and baby oliver. I'd been wondering how he was getting on, he's very firmly in out thoughts and prayers.

I had a hospital midwife appointment for my anti-d at 28 weeks, and they did the other checks at the same time (feel for position, heart beat, blood pressure, pee)

Regarding buying things I think we're nearly there. The car seat was delivered to my parents house today, so that's the last thing I think we really need before the baby is born. I haven't washed any clothes or bedding etc yet though, think I'll save that for mat leave. I'm also waiting to buy nappies, breast pads etc until closer to the time. I have my big tub of sudocreme though!

schro did you say peeing on mirrors?? Should I ask why?? I hope all is ok now if you had to spend the day in maternity? And did you find the cat, sounds like you don't need the extra worry!

Mrsross I have intermittent heartburn, but I'm mainly managing with milk and rennies, I HATE gaviscon, it makes me so sick. I have horrific constipation though, no matter how much fruit and fibre I eat. It really is getting glamorous isn't it?

shelley I'm glad everything seems to have settled.

icing - happy birthday! Enjoy your scan, what a lovely birthday present.

I don't really have any news, I'm better from my virus, and just pottering along feeling like a whale! People have started giving up their seats for me on the tube, even without the baby on board badge, it's been 3 days in a row now, I obviously look like I may collapse any minute! I can't imagine how it's going to be by the time I stop work in 6 weeks.

30+1 (Oh.My.God)

Abzs Thu 25-Apr-13 18:22:17

icing hope you had a good birthday

dinky we are hoping the caravans will go tonight. Unfortunately this group have been noisier and dirtier in their habits than ones that have been here before. My neighbour had the worst of it when her children saw some of the men going to the toilet on the roadside. She had visitors at the time, who just happened to be police officers. I'm hoping the developer will secure the site properly, but not sure how they'll do that without cutting off our footpath access to the bus stop.

I just have nappies and bottles to think about now.

MrsRoss26 Thu 25-Apr-13 20:23:43

persuasion ditto the constipation, sadly this seems to be unending for me even though I'm eating FAR too much, and most of that fibre! Glamour? I can't find it! Though I had my hair cut this afternoon for the first time in 9 months (a sign
of of things to come?) and finally I feel vaguely attractive again...

Persuasion I'm constipated too, despite loads of fluids & fruit every day. Glad you're getting a seat on the tube. It's great when you reach the stage where you're obviously pregnant and not just a bit fat. grin

SlouchingPanda Thu 25-Apr-13 20:32:32

Just checking in. Busy few days at work so have been reading but not posting.

All good here. Went to our first antenatal class this week - they seem like a lovely bunch. I am the last one due from the group so felt very inadequate in the bump department!

The baby moves all the time, and is now jamming up underneath my ribs. Does it really get even bigger?! I'm really feeling limbs and things too, which is rather fun.

29+0 today which feels really late, but as I was reminded today, I could go to 42 weeks which is three months away! shock

Charlottemerwiak Thu 25-Apr-13 20:48:31

Persuasion I suffer really badly with heart burn even when not preggers lots of water helps to dilute the acid but milk actually can make it worse although it does feel soothing initially. I steer well clear of dairy when it's bad. Obviously fatty foods and caffeine are meanies too. Peppermint is fantastic in tea or mints though.

I'm finding really hard not to eat sponges and tooth brushes at the moment. Not the washing up sponge but them yummy baby ones for the bath. grin

Dinky Yes definitely feeling a lot better now I am more confident.

Persuasion I had to learn to self catheterise as I keep going into urinary retention, they tried to convince me to take a semi permanent bag but I didn't want that so have to do this every 4 hours. When I was being taught today you have a mirror that clips onto the toilet seat and I forgot to aim the catheter down! Que wee all over mirror and bathroom. blush

We found the cat! She was trapped behind old bits of wood and cot in a bed room in the house, she seemed a bit shaken as she only had a tiny space to move and couldn't get out, had her dinner and a roll around my carpet and seems a lot happier!

Don't rely on rennies, they're rubbish. Try those gaviscon instants, not at all like normal gaviscon. It's a tropical flavoured powder you put on your tongue, they work really well.

Icing Enjoy your scan. smile

Charlotte It was sponges my best friend craved when pregnant! Turned out she was very anaemic, apparently it's a sign.

Charlottemerwiak Thu 25-Apr-13 21:24:45

Thanks Schro I'm at docs in the morning ill ask for them to get my bloods checked. Glad I'm not the only one though.

With me it was soap. I found pica to be the most hilarious pregnancy symptom. smile

VinegarDrinker Thu 25-Apr-13 21:31:01

schro I know I posted already on your other thread, but really glad you have been seen and got a solution, albeit not a very fun one! .

Vinegar I know you did, the support has been brilliant, thank you. smile

I'm glad too, it worried me before but actually, I feel better about it than I have since DS was born, I don't need to worry about not being able to go and the ones they gave me today are much easier to use, I can do it in seconds now so I am quite happy. smile

Thinkingof4 Thu 25-Apr-13 21:40:06

icing happy birthday, hope you had a good day

schro hope you are feeling a lot better, I saw your other thread in chat

abzs hope the caravans move on soon, sounds like you had a good weekend with your family

I can't believe how organised all you lot are in buying things for baby. I literally haven't bought a thing yet, and not even sent dh into loft to get baby stuff looked out. We just seem to be so busy every weekend and baby stuff seems pretty far down the to-do list!
Time is passing very quickly at the moment.

dinkystinky Thu 25-Apr-13 22:39:21

Evening all. Persuasion, MrsRoss - I get heartburn too. Eating little and often is the only thing that seems to stop it. Huge sympathies to all those with constipation - pregnancy hormones have a lot to answer for!

Abzs hope the caravans move on tonight and the developer sorts things out.

Slouching - glad you have a nice antenatal group.

Am rather fed up this evening - bought secret cinema tickets back in October for this Sunday (and gave some to sister and BIL as xmas presents) only to get an email tonight to say all this weekends screening are cancelled due to licencing issues.given all performances are sold out through June no chance of me going again before Bean arrives. Just hoping I can organise replacement dates for sis and Bil OK.

Sashabella0 Thu 25-Apr-13 22:57:32

I was meant to be going on Saturday Dinky hmm

dinkystinky Thu 25-Apr-13 23:02:44

Bloody annoying isn't it Sashabella?

Sashabella0 Fri 26-Apr-13 01:34:34

Very annoying Dinky!

IcingTheCake Fri 26-Apr-13 06:32:05

Thank you so much for the birthday messages guys smile the 4d scan was just amazing, i would definitely recommend it, and definitely a girl she said! Haha

dinky oh no! Thats so bad! If you called and explained the situation you might get something compensation - like vouchers to spend when you do rebook, not much but better than nothing!

Morning all!
Had a terrible nights sleep - DD waking up, me coughing, toothache, general insomnia, but I have my 28 week appointment today and off to that London on Saturday with DH for the night, leaving DD with her grandparents. smile

Hai1988 Fri 26-Apr-13 08:14:19

Morning all,
Happy birthday for the other day icing and congrats on the good 4d scan and on the pink confirmation smile did u no it was a girl already or did u not find out at 20weeks.

sorry you had a bad night totally but good luck with ur 28week check hope it all goes well and also hope u have a good time with ur dh on Saturday smile

Today in going to be catching up with a old grie d who moved away last year and also going to be meeting her 4month old for the first time, which i no is gonna make me terribly broody (can u get broody while pg or is it called something else :/ )

Also craving Tea so much latley have woken up wanting a cup today that's never happened before.
What is everyone else craving at the mo?

Keep well everyone smile

Hai1988 Fri 26-Apr-13 08:15:43

Old friend** what's wrong with my phone!

PhieEl06 Fri 26-Apr-13 08:51:47

Morning all, brought some lovely stuff from H&M last night, I had no idea they had the "mama" range in my local store so was pleasantly surprised, spent an absolute fortune on ASOS too. blush
Have a lovely half day at work planned, with nothing to do so currently sitting with my feet up Internet shopping & browsing MN.
Hai cravings seem to have slowed for me now, I just like food in general, still having the occasional daily orange ice lolly but apart from that I'm finding food less & less appealing! Meeting your old friend sounds lovely, hope you have a nice time!

If I've already handed my maternity leave dates in can I change them now as long as I give 28 days notice or do I have to stick to what I've put originally, don't think I can cope with the stress up to 38 weeks!

Have a nice day all! 27+6

dinkystinky Fri 26-Apr-13 09:26:40

Thanks Icing - I think there are hundreds and hundreds of people effected (they've cancelled 8 showings) - at least we found out last night rather than on Sunday which would have been even more annoying. Will get refund for me and DH and new tickets for my sister and BIL if I can - as the film is a 15 doubt they'll let me bring Bean along... Glad you had a lovely 4D scan.

Totally - ugh, poor you. Hope you have a lovely night away with DH> Whereabouts in London are you going to be and do you have anything planned? Time out online is great for letting you know whats on if you do feel like doing stuff.

Hai - have fun with your friend and the baby. No real cravings here though am still eating a mostly veggie diet.

Phie - sounds like you're totally sorted for your holiday now. I think you can change your dates if you need to - of course the more notice you give, the better.

dinkystinky Fri 26-Apr-13 14:17:39

Aah, feeling happier now - my lovely little sister has found a movie and dinner deal at Charlotte Street Hotel we're going to go to on Sunday evening instead. Abit easier to go to than Croydon!

dinkystinky Fri 26-Apr-13 16:50:02

Where is everybody? All busy nesting/shopping/preparing for holidays?

shelley72 Fri 26-Apr-13 16:57:13

im here! trapped under DS who is shattered after school whilst DD jumps off the sofa.

no shopping for me, thought i had to buy some NB sleepsuits and then i found a brand new set today that i bought ages ago when i was going through DSs trunk. boo. there must be something i need right? this is no fun at all!!!

have quiet weekend planned after last weekends hospital trips before the MW on monday. whats the betting that she asks AGAIN which type of birth i am going for?

agree that everyone is strangely quiet today!

IndecisivePramBuyer81 Fri 26-Apr-13 16:58:45

It really is quiet today..I think everyone is trying to make the most of the sunshine!

I went to the Drs today about the pains/cramps in my tummy and I'm being referred to physio about my back and Dr thinks the tummy pains are all muscular and a result of baby being low, combined with the back issues. I'm hoping physio might help both as am starting to feel a bit down about it all now sad Because I know I've still got 10 weeks to go, I'm finding it hard to talk myself up!

Shopping - all sorted in that dept, just got the pram to order next weekend. Decided on an Uppababy Cruz and v excited!

Holidays - am very jealous of you all! I would love nothing more than a holiday right now, albeit a sitting down one!

Cravings - not really had any cravings/aversions as such, although I am rather enjoying chewy sweets. Gummy bears and the like. Not craving them really, but perhaps that's because I just keep eating them!

Re everyone having worries lately - you can tell it's the last trimester! We need a motivational speaker I think!

Let the glamour continue! smile

29 + 7

Sashabella0 Fri 26-Apr-13 17:00:09

Working. I'm going shopping for a new kitchen rather than SC. the joys of being a grown up confused

Abzs Fri 26-Apr-13 17:01:27

Am not busy at all dinky. Think the weekend has caught up with me. Have spent the day vegging on the sofa.

I have done one and a half loads of washing - the half because I knocked basket over while I was hanging the it on the airer and it went in the litter tray.

Abzs Fri 26-Apr-13 17:11:11

"hanging the it"?

Shows the sorry state of my brain today...

BB01 Fri 26-Apr-13 17:11:37

Phie glad you found some good stuff to buy. I finally managed to track down a H&M with maternity stuff and was really happy with my purchases. Some nice very long t shirts.

Cravings wise my worst ones are still chocolate and cold sweet drinks so nothing too shocking but having to really try not to think about Coke too much as I'm its new biggest fan and I know it's awful for you :-(

Cheeseandbread Fri 26-Apr-13 17:12:38

Hello everyone! Sorry I've been quiet for a while... Stressful time at work lately- lots of tears this week sad I've had a couple of lesson observations this week- first was awful- my white board broke mid lesson and made me flustered. I got pulled up for various little things as well. Second one went very well so that was a relief. One of my friends is also retiring today so there were more tears... We are all going out for a meal tonight but I'm shattered!

Thanks Dinky for the update on little Oliver. He is always in my thoughts at the mo. Good to know he is gaining weight and hopefully getting stronger. I was born at 28 weeks and as I come to that milestone tomorrow I feel good.

Sorry to those who have been feeling under the weather lately. I hope everyone is able to get some rest over the weekend.

Happy birthday for the other day icing


BB01 Fri 26-Apr-13 17:13:41

Hope you get your aches and pains sorted out indecisive and glad to see you are no longer an indecisive pram buyer!

MrsMillions Fri 26-Apr-13 17:56:02

I've been hobbling around today with residual pain from cramp at 6am, don't know if it's the cramp itself or the over-stretching in my half-asleep state causing me problems but not nice either way.

A bit fed up with my small maternity wardrobe so using the excuse of sunshine to buy some summery things for these last few weeks - and early days postnatal too. Started an online order at work to finish at home tonight.

Got a 10" square fruit cake to bake this weekend ready for my dad's 60th. My house is going to smell of Christmas while it cooks! Any exciting weekend plans amongst you ladies? (Well done dinky's sister for the alternative cinema trip!)

MIL is puzzling us both with random purchases for us/baby...she's now got muslins, nail scissors and a car sun shade. Sweet of her but very odd.

29+1 and sooo glad it's the weekend.

Cheeseandbread Fri 26-Apr-13 18:07:37

Oooooooh Mrs Millions I like the sound of your cake baking! Sorry you've been in pain lots of the day. Indecisive we like uppababy too but are going for the vista.

I got given a load of maternity clothes from a friend to borrow so have lots of choice now which is lovely as I only had a few bits before.

DHs birthday on Monday so we are going to MIL for supper tomorrow which should be fun. She bought us a high chair the other day which was sweet even if we won't need it for a bit. Also picking up a cot from SIL tomorrow so we should only need to but a mattress for it.

dinkystinky Fri 26-Apr-13 19:21:43

Aah nice to see you all back on - thought I was nattering to myself back there.

Indecisive - I hope the physio helps with your aches and pains. Also hope the cramps pass soon MrsMillions - I know I have said it before but I swear by mag phos pillules to help alleviate pregnancy cramps - that and gentle exercise.

Cheese - so sorry work has been stressful/emotional. Not long to go till mat leave though! Enjoy your dinner tonight.

Sashabella - enjoy the kitchen shopping. That was the bit I liked best when we did up our house.

Happy birthday to your dad MrsMillioms - v sweet that you're baking him his cake! And happy birthday to your DH for Monday Cheese too - hope he has a good day.

Abzs - I hate it when stuff like that happens to freshly washed stuff.

dinkystinky Fri 26-Apr-13 19:24:38

Shelley - know what you mean about not having to buy anything for no 3 being no fun. I've bought some little vests and tshirts (including the r2d2 one) to alleviate my boredom on that front...

Also should we be placing bets on the next random purchase by MrsMillions MIL? I reckon a bath thermometer...

shelley72 Fri 26-Apr-13 19:38:01

nah i think it will be a baby wipe warmer or a nappy stacker grin

MightBeMad Fri 26-Apr-13 19:58:39

Evening all! Sorry for being AWOL. DH has been away so I've been flying solo with work and toddler. He's now on his way back from the airport, via the Chinese to get a takeaway and I can't wait (to see DH and for the Chinese!!!).

27 weeks today

I had my 28 week check at the MW today and the nurse popped in to give me my whooping cough vaccine whilst I was there to save me making a separate appointment - how's that for service? It was great to hear the baby's heartbeat again. Everything was fine, except she measured my bump as 24. She referred me for a growth scan, but said that was because DD had IUGR and didn't mention any issue with measuring smallish today. Anyway, had a call from the hospital in the afternoon to ring back to make an appointment for Monday! Very excited that we'll get to see the baby again. smile

Enjoy your Chinese, MightBe

Supershiv1 Fri 26-Apr-13 20:25:16

I held Oliver!

[quickly pulls neck back in as need to go and express again and not sure if it's all a dream]

VinegarDrinker Fri 26-Apr-13 20:26:50

What fantastic news shiv !

Abzs Fri 26-Apr-13 20:28:53

I appear to have gone mad just ripped the grotty carpet off the stairs. CatB is very put out (DH may well be when he gets home too).

Abzs Fri 26-Apr-13 20:30:38

That's brilliant Shiv!

shelley72 Fri 26-Apr-13 20:34:06

Oh shiv you've made me cry. That's fab news!

notprincesskate Fri 26-Apr-13 20:42:49

I'm very excited for you shiv such an amazing feeling.
Despite us having pretty much everything from DD I have still managed to shop for things that I didn't have first time, and really want or don't really need but still want! Although mostly its bits of furniture to turn our spare room into a nursery/spare room combo, also not sure whether DH has fully noticed that I have also acquired 2 new pushchairs, so that I have 4 in total [shocked].
Had GTT this am, with my one good vein well and truly used now. No plans for the weekend suspect it will be more feeling sorry for myself with these dreadful shingles, never had something that is so constantly painful sad

Thinkingof4 Fri 26-Apr-13 20:50:27

shiv that is so lovely! I'm so happy for you x

notprincess sorry you are still feeling so poorly, hope you can curl up on couch and watch your favourite DVDs to take your mind off things

Sorry on phone so can't name check any more!
Another week gone, only 5 weeks left to work, starting to feel really tired so much as I love my job I'm looking forward to stopping
Fx for some good weather this weekend, strange weather here today with hailstones then sunshine then torrential rain. Just sunny tomorrow please!

Great news, shiv!!!

Runswithsquirrels Fri 26-Apr-13 21:36:05

Aw Shiv, that's great to hear! :')

dinkystinky Fri 26-Apr-13 22:10:30

Shiv - that's awesome news: so delighted for you and Oliver! Hope the cuddle makes expressing easier - and he continues to feed and get bigger and stronger. Bet he can't wait for the next cuddle x

Abzs - this is what happens when you spend all day on the sofa! Maybe you can claim its uber-nesting!

Notprincesskate - so sorry the shingles are causing you so much pain. Hope you get lots of rest in at the weekend

SundaySunshine Fri 26-Apr-13 22:34:27

Yay shiv wonderful wonderful news <jumping round the sitting room doing the happy dance>

Just in the middle of a major BH hmm getting them loads recently they wake me up on the middle of the night. The up side is though I panicked myself into doing my hospital bag grin

notprincesskate really feel for you, shingles is rubbish, hope you feel better soon.

Sorry your weekend plans have gone pear shaped dinky good your DS managed an alternative.

Hope everyone else is ok. Thanks goodness for the weekend eh?

SundaySunshine Fri 26-Apr-13 22:35:54

DSis not DS!

McKTastic Fri 26-Apr-13 22:51:22

Really lovely news shiv grin

Hope the expressing is going well. My DD was only 4 weeks early but couldn't latch initially so I expressed for 6 weeks until she learned how. She's two now & only stopped BF last month (self weaned prob bce my milk supply's gone down in pregnancy) Anyway it's not easy keeping it going & you've a lot more to cope with at the moment too. Hope you're getting good BF support if you're hoping to continue.

Thinking of you, your family & Oliver.

Hello to everyone else grin

SilverBirdie Fri 26-Apr-13 23:16:00

Hi all smile
I've been a lurker for a while and never managed to put myself on any of the lists.
I am self employed and a sahm most of the week to our Ds 2.8 so time isn't something I've had much of. Now though, my nesting is getting ridiculous so I'm thinking of shutting my business down early to get organised before dd arrives. Dh works from home too so this place is a pig sty sad

I am 28 + 5 with dd and am dreading the thought that I'm probably going to have an elective c sec sad still trying to tell myself it's the right decision. According to notes from Ds' birth I have Cephlopelvic Disproportion and am already measuring 32 weeks. sad
Ds was emergency csec after awful labour, was big, long and had a huge head so I'm hopeful that the recovery from an elective will be a lot different.

Due date is 14th July but could be earlier if elcs. There's not been much talk of names on here, not the bits I've read anyway. This is a very chatty thread smile
Is everyone keeping it a secret? smile
We have a top 4 but the no.1 is a marmite name and I think i might be too chicken to use it sad

Really pleased to read about Oliver's good progress shiv

Hope everyone else has a fab weekend smile

Cheeseandbread Sat 27-Apr-13 00:03:41

Just got to bed after my night out- a late one for me as I'm usually in bed by 9 these days...

So nice to have great news about Oliver. *shic I hope you and DH are keeping well.

AmaDablam Sat 27-Apr-13 06:39:04

Morning all. I'm in danger of becoming a bit of a lurker on here, having got too used to popping a quick comment on the FB group instead, but I do still check in most days!

Been awake since 3 sad. Woke up for a pee then spent half an hour worrying because I couldn't feel the baby move, then another hour lying there whilst she had a full on rave party! Oh well, who needs sleep? Good training for the not too distant future I guess...

Welcome SilverBirdie hope you're well. There has been a fair bit of chat about names on here but I think most people either haven't made their final choice yet or are keeping it a secret. We have decided (I think) but aren't breathing a word until she's here!

Great news about Shiv last night, so happy she's finally been able to have a cuddle with her boy smile


Charlottemerwiak Sat 27-Apr-13 09:53:05

Arghhhhh I have very sore leaky boobs I don't usually get them this early. Has anyone else had this yet? Ive gone right through a bra (I can't sleep without one on) and vest through the bed sheet onto the mattress. Do you think it will calm down again before dc arrives or am I stuck like this for the foreseeable?

Quickly checking in. smile

Charlotte I've had this since about 17/18 weeks. I had it with my DS1 as well unfortunately and it didn't go away. sad

Just back from a second hand baby sale, got some bargains. A tummy tub for £4, one of those big baby bean bags with a rocker for it and play gym arch thing on it for £20 and some lovely wee clothes.

Also bought a maternity top, the woman and man at the stall were very whispery when I took it to pay for it, to the point I asked what's wrong, she said nothing. Got it home and there is massive burn holes all over the bottom of it. angry

notprincesskate Sat 27-Apr-13 15:10:48

Is anyone else thinking of doing any bulk baking, I was/am hoping to, as I'm off sick at the moment I'm wondering if I should get on and do it now so its ready, we have room in our freezer, but as it could potentially be in there for 10 weeks + I'm not sure if its a good idea, we are usually really bad and have stuff in the freezer for ages past its supposed date, but have never had any adverse effects, and I always make sure its properly cooked second time round.
What do you think?

I'll probably batch cook a load of stuff when I get to about 33 weeks. Not sure about how long it will keep though but will be handy when you start getting bigger and more tired again and really can't be arsed.

shelley72 Sat 27-Apr-13 18:52:26

i am going to batch cook too in a few weeks when i can be bothered.

i remember the MW doing post natal visits with DC1 asking, 'whats it today then?'. she found it quite amusing i think but at least we/i was eating good food (allbeit reheated) rather than living on take aways! i seem to remember doing lots of casseroles, lasagnes, tagines etc.

not sure how much i will get done this time, but will definitely be getting muffins etc done for lunch boxes. like they are going to survive in the freezer for 6 weeks blush. will also be getting a food order ready so it can be delivered as soon as we are all home. i seem to live on toast and cake for the first week or so anyway but i suppose my children will want to eat!!!

bad luck with the mat top schro - i bought an 'excellent condition' jojo maman top from ebay the other week - was so disappointed with it, all bobbly but not worth the postage/hassle of sending back. especially disappointed as the same weekend i won a cheaper one which was brand new shock. its a shame that some people arent entirely honest!

MrsMillions Sat 27-Apr-13 19:43:39

A bit belated but wow, Shiv, excellent news...that must have been the best cuddle of your life.

I'm loving the suggestions on what MIL will buy next. They're up next weekend and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she finds something else before then, will keep you all posted.

Dad's birthday not until July but we're celebrating early as I won't be making a 4 hour journey then! Still a few weeks to go but as every Mary/Delia/Nigella wannabe knows a fruit cake needs feeding with booze, I will enjoy breathing it in as I do it. Have got the fruit soaking in rum now, can't quite believe how much there is and a bit worried I don't have a bowl big enough for the full cake mix.

On names...think we're sorted for a girl but still struggling on boys. Told the mw our girls name but haven't shared with family or friends, will definitely be waiting until we announce the baby's arrival.


Grannyapple Sat 27-Apr-13 21:17:19

Hi ladies...looking through some old pg books (thought I'd better give myself a refresher-just as well, how could I forget to think about getting bibs?!)

Anyway I got looking at sites for tens hire-found a site that does 7 wk hire starting at about £18-£21.. Anyway, here's the site details for anyone that's thinking about it


VinegarDrinker Sat 27-Apr-13 23:20:57

We didn't use bibs until weaning.... Guess it depends how sicky your baby is!

cheekbyjowl Sun 28-Apr-13 00:17:52

Wooo shiv. That's amazing! Is there a way of putting photos on mn? If so i would love to see a pic of Oliver.
Notprincess outchie. Shingles sounds horrible - i really hope it clears up for you
Ama are you kick counting? I'm trying to but not sure if it re-assures me or worries me as seems a bit sporadic. Right now sprog is auditioning for riverdance, two nights ago it was sleeping lions.

I've discovered nesting. I didn't know that happened. I'm about to de-clutter till there's nothing left.

Goodnight all. Hope you're having good weekends.

Cheeseandbread Sun 28-Apr-13 07:17:13

notprincess how funny you mentioned baking- I was thinking about this the other day. I think if you want to do some now go for it... I'm never sure how long things are supposed to be in the freezer but have eaten many things that have been in there for a long while confused Think I'm going to do some when I'm on mat leave. Sorry you are poorly at the mo.

Sycro how annoying about your top!

At MIL this weekend and SIL came over and has given us an old cot and lots of lovely clothes that her daughter has grown out of which is great! The conversation turned to Christmas at one point and where we were going- too early! I know my Mum would kill me if it wasn't spent with her so I tried to stay quiet... I'll talk with DH later and sort it. We also got into the subject of mat leave which annoyed me- MIL (who I get on really well with and usually sides with me over DH) annoyed me as she was saying she worked up to 39 weeks. At the moment I'm going at 35 but after the week I've had I feel like going sooner... I think it's different for everyone and hate feeling judged. I went to bed feeling cross angry still feel a bit annoyed now...

I hope everyone has a lovely Sunday

dinkystinky Sun 28-Apr-13 09:08:58

Morning all and welcome Silver birdie - please add yourself to the stats list. Don't worry about your ELCS - my friend had a crash CS with DS1 and an elective with her twins last month and she said it was worlds apart - she's recovered really, really well. And she worked up to the day of her ELCS - god knows how! Re names - Dh and I are leaving it till nearer the birth as we can't agree on them!

Schro - super annoying re the top but otherwise great bargains. Enjoy the tummy tub - both boys loved it in theirs for the first few months.

Cheese - try not to get annoyed re mat leave comments. Its your pregnancy and your body and job - you know best when to finish work.

Re batch cooking - aiming on living on lovely salads and fruit with a summer baby - that is if the summer ever arrives!

MightBeMad Sun 28-Apr-13 09:30:18

Shiv - amazing news!!!! I too would love to see a photo of Oliver smile

IndecisivePramBuyer81 Sun 28-Apr-13 10:31:40

Belated, but great news shiv - made me cry a little!

cheekbyjowl Sun 28-Apr-13 10:45:40

Does anyone know if we need to buy a car seat long in advance. I.e is there a wait from ordering to.delivery? Well prob get the whole caboodle in john lewis

Twinklestarstwinklestars Sun 28-Apr-13 11:02:19

Cheek if John Lewis say there's a wait you can order them from kiddicare etc and get them next day, I waited a few weeks for mine but ordered it from a local pram shop who ordered individually, they also wanted about £30 more than amazon etc so make sure you check online before so you can get them to price match if needed.

dinkystinky Sun 28-Apr-13 11:54:11

Cheek - normally a wait with John Lewis from order to delivery IIRC. Ask them when you go in to order - and I agree with online price checking for price match too.

DH has come out with sympathy pregnancy insomnia - wouldn't mind but he wakes me up when I'm actually sleeping. Am off to boots today to get him some nytol!

Will catch up in full a bit later but wanted to say cheese that I'm leaving at 35+3, and the headteacher made some snide comment about the other teachers staying til 38 and getting bored in their 2 weeks at home. 35 is def enough for me and if it weren't half term at 33-4 weeks I'd probably leave sooner! So stick to your guns smile

Abzs Sun 28-Apr-13 14:24:53

Seems it was my turn for a hospital stay. Woken up yesterday by sudden bleeding and was admitted for 24hr monitoring. All is fine, Small was jumping around so much it was hard to get the monitor fixed on the heartbeat. No apparent cause and no reason to suggest it'll happen again.

I did cause a bit of a fuss with the neighbours as the hospital insisted I get an ambulance for transport because I was on my own - DH is still offshore until thursday. I am lucky to have good neighbours who figured out it must've been me, and brought me some overnight things in after phoning the hospital to see if I needed CatB looked after!

MightBeMad Sun 28-Apr-13 14:38:38

Eek abzs that sounds like a drama. Glad all is okay with the little one. What lovely neighbours you have!

emblosion Sun 28-Apr-13 14:45:02

Glad everything is ok Abzs must have been horrible to be woken up like that.

Stupid phone app won't let me scroll up to see posts, hope all is ok with everyone.

Is anyone else EXHAUSTED at the moment? Doesn't help that my ds is having some sort of awful sleep regression at the mo, but honestly I could snooze at the drop of a hat! I had a 3 hour sleep on Friday afternoon. Apparently iron levels are ok so its not that am just sooo sleeeeepy <yawn>.

29+6 today. Where is the time going?

Hai1988 Sun 28-Apr-13 15:42:33

Glad you and lil one are ok abzs must of been quite scary tho at the time.

emblosion Im with you on the sleepiness am so tired today but seem to me sleeping ok atm, although got woken up by some uncomfortable BH's the other night.

29+2. Just getting impatient now, got nearly everything bought for baby, just need to get stuff for me for the hospital bag, which i will be packing as soon as i have done i expect as just wanna get it all done and dusted and have lil one here for newborn cuddles smile

Runswithsquirrels Sun 28-Apr-13 15:49:57

Guavas and Cheese, my head seems desperate to get rid of me! She tried to tell me when I had to finish so I quoted back UK employment law. I want to stay as long as possible as I'd get bored and lazy at home - I know what I'm like! If I left early and then had two weeks going overdue I don't know what'd happen to my sanity!

Glad things are okay * Abz*.

Cheeseandbread Sun 28-Apr-13 16:37:07

Thanks Dinky and Guava for your reassurance! I'm feeling a bit better about it all now. Runs sorry your head is trying to make you leave early.

Abzs poor you! Glad all is ok with you and small.

emblosion yes I feel shattered too... It seems to come in waves with me.

I've got my 28 week appointment tomorrow which I'm looking forward too!


Glad things worked out ok, Abzs. What lovely neighbours you have.

SIL (who is tiny) living in Australia gave birth to a 9+lb baby boy by Caesarian this morning. He's gorgeous. Seeing a photo made me so broody - I really want to hold a little baby. Good thing I'm pregnant!

Just on the way home from a weekend in London with DH. Found it pretty tiring, but I think some of that is due to lack of sleep over the last week and a hideous cold that has me constantly blowing my nose and coughing.

Hope everyone else has had a good weekend.