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November 2013-thread 4- nattering our way through the first trimester

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honey86 Mon 01-Apr-13 15:40:50

pow... here goes another wink

Marking place!

MummaPanda Mon 01-Apr-13 16:17:39

Nattering is right! The april lot have only gone through 8 threads, and they are due this month!! How have we done half of that already and aren't even in 2nd trimester yet??

Slippysnow Mon 01-Apr-13 16:23:18

Hiya, I'm still here 10 weeks today. Booking in tomorrow and scan on the 15th. Things are moving slowly.

honey86 Mon 01-Apr-13 16:34:50

woah! 15 weeks seems like such a long time to wait for your scan blush still havent got my booking appt through yet sad

MummaPanda Mon 01-Apr-13 16:43:27

I think she meant on the 15th april honey lol

louby86 Mon 01-Apr-13 16:50:04

Hellooooooo. Can't believe how fast we're getting through threads, although I'll admit on the last bus we were on we all ended up on Facebook as it was easier to keep up!

SuffolkNWhat Mon 01-Apr-13 16:54:03

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honey86 Mon 01-Apr-13 17:01:31

ooh poo ... baby brain got me blush

Slippysnow Mon 01-Apr-13 17:03:19

yup 15th of April (I will be 12 weeks) no way I could wait any longer!!

Diege Mon 01-Apr-13 17:10:28

Thanks for the new thread honey smile
I have my harmony test at the FMC on Wednesday - eeek!!!! They'll also give me a quick dating scan.
Have to travel down to London tomorrow night as it's super-early on the weds morning.Well too early for me to contemplate the 5.20am train I would have had to get grin

BoyMeetsWorld Mon 01-Apr-13 17:59:29

Hallo all! Still tentatively 5+4 smile

Is everyone having a good Easter? Back to work tomorrow...yay...

BoyMeetsWorld Mon 01-Apr-13 17:59:51

What's a harmony test, Diege?

Dizzy81 Mon 01-Apr-13 18:04:17

Hi all,

My ms/neusea kicks in of an evening - so I've had to wea the sea band all day today, which has helped. Plus I keep napping,how am I going to cope at work tomorrow without them?

Diege Mon 01-Apr-13 18:28:20

Phew,glad there's no work for me until next week! Only advice re: work would be to try and get an extra hour in tonight; I also used to try and have a quick nap on my office floor blush but I was almost always distributed with a knock on the door just as I'd managed to nod off
Boy the harmony test is a maternal blood test that screens for chromosome abnormalities, and is over 99% accurate. It's a good alternative to amnio/cvs as it's non-invasive and therefore has no risk of mc. Downside is that it's mega bucks (£500-£750) as the blood is sent to the US for testing, but fetal medical centre in London have a special offer on if you have blood drawn 10 weeks to 10 weeks and 6 days, of £180 for test plus the nuchal you come back for 2wks later (when the results should be in). Good thread on antenatal tests topic if you'd like further info' xx

OneLittleToddleTerror Mon 01-Apr-13 18:50:34

I'm keeping hopeful that I won't have to think about the harmony test. It's £180 I don't want to spend. Interesting that you say the first test in the FMC has to be done at 10 weeks. I thought the trial is available to anyone doing the nuchal/blood combined tests? So I still can get the special offer if I book after the results from the NHS. I looked at the £750 one and I think you can book for a weekend test too.

Well my NHS 12 week scan appointment is supposed to arrive in the post sometime this week. I'm a bit jealous some of you already got your scan date sorted. sad

stuffthenonsense Mon 01-Apr-13 19:10:37

Thread 4! In just six weeks, we are likely to take over MN at this rate.

Diege Mon 01-Apr-13 19:19:17

Hi onelittle. I'm afraid the £180 offer is only valid if you have the harmoiny between 10 weeks and 10 weeks and 6 days sad. Therefore it would be too late to have at the offer price after the NHS scan. I think the reason the offer is on at all is that it includes the nuchal and nuchal bloods,so that they are able to compare any differences between the two tests, for their own research data. Quite clever really,as most people would usually only go for the harmony after a 'bad' screening result,as you would with an amnio. You can of course have the harmony from 10 weeks until term but then it's the usual £500 (though I think you can combine a later scan which would be included in the price). I kept on getting it wrong on the phone to the centre as I couldn't understand why you would offer it alongside the later (less accurate) nuchal, but as I would be at high risk anyway (1 in 50 for ds based on my age alone) and really want to avoid a cvs, thought this the best option for me.
stuff agree,we will be on 'most active' regularly if we carry on at this rate grin

notsoold Mon 01-Apr-13 19:23:32

Diege....fingers crossed for you!!! I tried booking it but because of my timing I missed out on the offer!! sad
Well I will wait until scan and if the risk is high then I will pay and go to London !!!!

Loving the thread by the way!!!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Mon 01-Apr-13 19:24:57

boy glad you are still here

diege best of luck with the test. How long until the results come back?

honey sorry your oh is bent an arse. Hope things improve soon.

I'm back at work tomorrow. Am dreading it as I am absolutely shattered (woke at 8am and had a 2 hour nap).

OneLittleToddleTerror Mon 01-Apr-13 20:04:48

I have missed the offer anyway as I'm 10+1 today sad. Too late to think about it until I have a bad NHS screening result. diege agree that most of us won't think about the harmony until we got the free result.

MotherOfCleo Mon 01-Apr-13 20:05:24

fatigue has really kicked in this weekend, I'm 8+5 today and have had to have naps today and yesterday, Im so so tired.

Im also nauseous again....boo! Thought that had all but passed.

Dont know how Im going to cope this week, so glad I have the early scan to look forward to on Thursday night. So worried all wont be good. confused

I weighed myself this morning and Ive put on 7lb....eeek. My clothes still fit so I think a lot of it is my huge boobs, 3 sizes up already.

getoffthecoffeetable Mon 01-Apr-13 20:22:55

harv no scan date yet. I only saw the midwife yesterday for the first time and she's told me it'll take two weeks to process the paperwork.
saundy it sounds like your exciting news went down really well.
Have had an active day with DS today, painting then out to lunch then a massive dog walk and visit to the in laws. He's now fast asleep and I don't think I'll be far behind him!
I'm not feeling very pregnant at all, except for being worn out. Wish I knew when my scan will be. Am jealous of you ladies who know already!

riverflow Mon 01-Apr-13 20:38:54


I'm new to all this. Pregnant 6+1 with first. Had MC at five weeks in Nov 2012. Hope I can join this group. I've mostly just been reading everyone elses chat so far.
All going well, glad to hear that others are thirsty. I am soo thirsty, read about the gestational diabetes will chat that through with Midwife, but sounding like its just normal...or else twins..... My very first appointment on 16th April. Looking forward to hearing all your chat.

riverflow Mon 01-Apr-13 20:39:31

ps DD 24th Nov.

EcoHippyMum Mon 01-Apr-13 20:56:42

MotherofCleo I too am getting huge in the breast department! I was 36D pre-pregnancy and with my others went up to 36E when feeding but the woman in the bra shop put me in a 38DD!!! I am dreading what I might be once milk comes in after having this one! I haven't weighed myself, I got down to a size 12 and I know I will be depressed!

ilovemiltonismybestfriend Mon 01-Apr-13 21:06:58

Wow!! A new thread. I hadn't kept up a few days so my friend had to text me and tell me to check it out because I would get left behind otherwise!! How is everyone doing?? I've got a sickness band for my wrist now. Seems to be doing the trick, although I have just eaten six pieces of kFC and now feel rough. Don't know if that's baby or just my body telling me I'm a complete pillocks and it never liked being filled with crap so why have I started now!!? Lol...

Anyway, food rant over. My first midwife appt is coming up fast now (next Tuesday) and I'm a little bit excited! What stage is everyone else at??

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Mon 01-Apr-13 21:10:44

river sorry about your mc and congrats on this pregnancy. I think excess

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Mon 01-Apr-13 21:11:45

I think excessive thirst is normal in early pregnancy (it is for me anyway)

<posted too soon, damn you phone>

harverina Mon 01-Apr-13 22:21:42

Urrrgghh baby brain alert - I've been checking the old thread all night on my phone and wondering why you were all so quiet blush!!!

Had brilliant day today with dh and dd. we went for a walk and put for lunch then to the park. I've been doing uni work tonight which I have actually quite enjoyed! Dh leaves early tomorrow for an early flight and he is working away till Thursday. Thankfully I'm feeling much better than I did last time he was away - that was just awful and I was so miserable.

Nausea has pretty much disappeared though and not as tired today - should I be worried?

I feel full so much quicker at the moment and I'm also really thirsty all the time - I can drink loads and my mouth still feels dry!

honey86 Mon 01-Apr-13 22:48:38

just picked up a very brief tiny but definately there, heartbeat on my doppler smile found the swooshing of the placenta then laid there for ages scanning then angled slightly down n there it was.. so tiny though and mostly drowned out by the placenta sounds... i must have an anterior one x

riverflow Mon 01-Apr-13 22:56:42

Thanks Whenshewasbadshewashopeful fingers crossed for this one and for everyone else

Off to bed with two pints of water...

EcoHippyMum Tue 02-Apr-13 00:04:10

That's great honey86!

I am feeling a bit low, was okay until I went to the loo, and then the brown discharge is back... I wish it would stop. I am so paranoid about it all the time. It's like when I go to the toilet I am scared incase of what I find. My booking appointment isn't till next Tuesday, and I just want to know what the hell is going on, is it cervical erosion, is it SCH, what? I am not cramping or bleeding heavily, and when I have bled I've not so much as bled through on to a pad.... but I am scared. sad sad

Wibblypiglikesbananas Tue 02-Apr-13 01:11:29

Hi all! Another thread, wow, we talk so much!

Just wanted to ask if anyone else with a toddler has noticed them being different since becoming pregnant. I'm sure my DD is a lot more clingy than she was a few weeks ago. Now, the two could be unrelated and she doesn't know or really understand yet about the baby in mummy's tummy - but it seems strange. Anyway, I'd be interested to know if anyone else is in the same boat.

Ecohippymum - please don't worry. I had what you describe throughout my first pregnancy. I also used to panic before going to the loo in case I might find anything and if I did, I'd feel physically sick. However, it's super normal, particularly darker, old blood spotting, and since having DD and talking to other mums, lots of people I know had something similar. It's just not talked about so much! TMI but it was always worse after DTD... There was also no pattern and I'd go weeks without then have two weeks with and so it went on. The most reassuring thing I found was once I could feel baby moving, I knew she was ok so was able to stop worrying quite so much.

I had a tiny bit of brown spotting a couple of weeks ago with this pregnancy and whilst I panicked initially, I didn't do anything about it until my Dr's appt last week. When I told her, she said it was just normal for me and not to worry. The only thing to think about is if you are rhesus negative blood group, as I am, and have more significant bleeding, you'll need to get an early anti-D injection but that's no biggie really. Fingers crossed for you.

getoffthecoffeetable Tue 02-Apr-13 07:40:05

harv my symptoms have pretty much disappeared too - except that thirst! Have come to work today with a litre of black currant to drink!
wibbly my DS has become really clingy too over the past few weeks. It's like he's sensed he won't be the only one forever. Am making the most of it and getting in millions of hugs and kisses!
Back to work today. Not in any of my suits as the buttons won' t fasten!

Dizzy81 Tue 02-Apr-13 08:13:43

Morning all,

Up half the night as I couldn't sleep. Work should be interesting. I'm the same as you Getoff none of my trousers do up, so havin to resort to wearing dresses!

My sense of smells über sensitive again today. My dh jokes my ode could be used at airports - now there's a thought.

Had a slight panic this morning as I couldn't find y sea band, calms now been restored

EcoHippyMum Tue 02-Apr-13 08:41:38

Thanks Wibbly, it really does make feel awful. This is my fifth pregnancy (m/c between dd 2 & 3 and wasn't like this) I also had a days bleed with dd 3 but this is so different. Never thought I'd welcome the symptoms of sore boobs and nausea so much!

getoffthecoffeetable Tue 02-Apr-13 08:59:17

Good luck with work today dizzy
I'm sure I'm going to get found out today!
I'm surprisingly wide awake - probably because of the silly time DS usually gets up although he's been loads better since the clocks have changed - touches lots of wood!
My sense of smell is crackers too. Almost had to move seats this morning because a girl with really strong perfume came and sat near me!

OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 09:10:42

dizzy I struggled with my work trousers too. I worn dresses in the weekend, but I don't have any work dresses. So I have to resort to sucking my tummy in and then zip up the darn thing. I'm sitting here feeling really uncomfortable. Maybe I'll nudge DH to climb into the loft this evening to get my maternity clothes. I'm feeling a bit defeated though to be so bloated in the first trimester. sad

PurpleKiwi Tue 02-Apr-13 09:35:38

Morning all! Just marking my place on the new thread - off to my first scan later this morning. Being scanned early for my peace of mind more than anything else after our SB, feeling very emotional and worried at the mo sad

artyone Tue 02-Apr-13 09:43:13

Morning all,

Hope everyone had a good easter.

Welcome and congrats to River

All is well here. I have my first midwife appointment tomorrow and am terrified that they will take my blood. I have managed to avoid blood tests for my entire life as far back as I remember and I last had an injection 10 years ago. I am far too terrified of needles. I am really hoping I can take my OH in with me, but my doctors surgery are a bit mean, so not sure if i'll be allowed.

Easter sunday I was physically sick for the first time, ugh. My housemate made me a ginger cake yesterday though, which is delicious and hopefully will help.
What is everyone else doing to combat the sickness???
I couldn't deal with the wristbands sadly, I don't like things touching my wrists.

artyone Tue 02-Apr-13 09:45:57

Purple Good luck with your scan. Let us know how it goes.

MissTweed Tue 02-Apr-13 09:55:40

Marking place smile

MissTweed Tue 02-Apr-13 09:58:17

Good luck purple kiwi. I'm off today for my blood to be taken for the downs screen. Getting really nervous about the result (I'm 33) will find out the result at the scan in 2 weeks. I'm feeling guilty that I'm focussing more on the dreaded "risk factor" than seeing our baby for the first time hmm

PurpleKiwi Tue 02-Apr-13 10:06:22

Thanks arty. As someone who also hates needles but is now having to inject every day, it's amazing what you can make yourself do when you know its for your baby x

Good luck to you too tweed

honey86 Tue 02-Apr-13 10:08:08

good luck kiwi smile

god i feel so ill... sickness has hit me like a carbon steel articulated lorry full of bricks confusedsad sitting with my sick bowl at the ready confusedconfusedconfusedconfused

Saundy Tue 02-Apr-13 10:10:46

Welcome River & congrats.

Purple good luck with the scan - enjoy!

Make sure you explain how you feel Arty I would rather be inclined to tell them you need DP there as opposed to ask if its ok. I hope it goes well.

DP nearly broke his neck yesterday running upstairs to show me this article: www.inhabitots.com/new-study-shows-that-oral-sex-can-cure-morning-sickness-naturally/ I don't think I've ever seen him looking quite so pleased with himself lol.

Am feeling horribly sick today & even the wrist bands aren't helping. I would actually be tempted to test the theory was DP not in work!!

Saundy Tue 02-Apr-13 10:11:58

On good luck too Tweed!!

& I hope DP has started to sort himself out Honey

MummaPanda Tue 02-Apr-13 10:33:11

Lol saundy! I definitely won't be showing that to my dh!

OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 10:44:07

Is it just me, but the thought of swallowing makes me want to throw up atm hmm

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 02-Apr-13 10:45:49

Omg I'm in work feeling so sick sad sad not sure whether to be happy ive got symptoms or curl up in a ball and hibernate!

Saundy Tue 02-Apr-13 10:49:00

Best not, the sympathy I used to get has been quickly replaced with much enthusiasm to cure me!! Not sure exactly how that would work with the gag reflex?! Haha.

honey86 Tue 02-Apr-13 10:49:48

lol @ the link. i beg to differ...

hes sayin he loves me n wants t talk but flat out refuses to admit hes done anything wrong or hurtful and wont apologise. so were not really talking x

Alwaystheauntie Tue 02-Apr-13 10:51:16

I am kind of hoping the article means him doing the pleasuring rather than the over way round?? Am defo not showing the DH that one. Have managed 3.5 yrs without doing it. Not about to start now!!

Dreamstoreality Tue 02-Apr-13 11:12:44

Haven't been on here in a while but need some had holding.

Currently 8 + 3 , after 2 previous miscarriages. Yesterday started having cramps (which might be due to constipation) but also started spotting. Still spotting this morning.

Currently sitting in the GPs overcrowded waiting room (and probably will be for at least another hour) trying not to cry.

Alwaystheauntie Tue 02-Apr-13 11:13:29

Dream, keeping everything crossed for you. Xx

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 02-Apr-13 11:13:47

honey well done for beating me to finding the heartbeat. My Doppler still hasn't been dispatched yet sad.
Sorry your oh is still being an arse, hopefully he's just adjusting to the pregnancy and will angst his attitude shortly.

OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 11:14:33

dream keeps your hope up. It's just spotting isn't it? Fx for you.

SuffolkNWhat Tue 02-Apr-13 11:16:58

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honey86 Tue 02-Apr-13 11:25:13

actually hes been gossiping about me to his best mate just cos i put on my fb status that im chuffed i was first to hear it. wtf is so wrong with that!

Minesahotchocolate Tue 02-Apr-13 11:33:01

Hi folks, just marking my place - am struggling to keep up with all the chat!
Welcome riverflow - increased thirst is def normal. And if you think you're thirsty now, wait until you're breastfeeding (if you do breastfeed) - I have never been SO thirsty in my life!
9 weeks today and feeling v. normal. Just tired (but got stinking cold). Still feels all somewhat unreal.

Diege I was reading the info on Harmony tests. Sounds really interesting. Great to have a reliable non-invasive alternative. I missed the nuchal scan time window with my 1st preg (we moved internationally at that time) and didn't worry too much about it all. This time, the worry that the baby will have a prob is niggling away at me more. Almost like as if having had 1 healthy DD, I feel like it increases the chances that 2nd time something won't be right - which I know logically makes NO sense! argh!

Right, must go get some air - clear the fug out of my brain. Hope spring arrives soon! smile

Minesahotchocolate Tue 02-Apr-13 11:35:44

Dreams - hoping it all works out alright for you. I think one of the other ladies had some significant spotting/bleeding and got a scan and all was still fine. Sounds so stressful - I hope you get a scan to put your mind at rest too.

honey86 Tue 02-Apr-13 11:37:45

defo got the thirsty thing, drinking so much water its unreal

FINALLY got my booking appointment on fri smile

Minesahotchocolate Tue 02-Apr-13 11:39:35

Eco - how are you doing today? Hope you're ok. This pregnancy business sure messes with your head doesn't it? So much for 'blooming' - must have been a man who came up with that term!

Animol Tue 02-Apr-13 11:52:53

Just marking my place - got the docs tomorrow so probably another scan ( I'm not in the UK and they do loads more scans over here) - feel so sick I think everything must be OK

getoffthecoffeetable Tue 02-Apr-13 12:18:02

purplekiwi how was your scan?
dreams hope that you're ok.
As per the norm at the moment, am hungry again. Can't seem to stop eating. Filled my bag full of healthy snacks today so at least it's all good for me if not rather dull

BenthamFriday Tue 02-Apr-13 12:29:52

Afternoon everyone! I think I was on thread 2, but things move so fast for this group - love all the chat smile

I was thinking I'd dodged the nausea-bullet, but it kicked in last week and now all I can eat are crackers and fruit. And I'm tired. And my back hurts.

I do, however, feel better for a whinge, so many thanks, ladies! Hope you all start feeling less icky soon.

Dreams - hope you're OK. I had a friend with bleeding after 2 MCs and she now has a beautiful little boy.

suprisepitstop Tue 02-Apr-13 12:30:43

hi all, dreams i am hoping it is just spotting

have today off,feeling pretty miserable after being sick all weekend whilst staying at a raucous house party in the north, all hearty walks, hours in crappy pub and steaming plates of hot food that we sat over for interminable meals ( cant eat proper food still). i felt like such a party pooper, and then dh coming to bed after one am three nights in a row drunken snoring. really glad to be home in my own house!! anybody else struggling with their social life? i just dont care at the moment!

BenthamFriday Tue 02-Apr-13 12:36:46

Suprise - I definitely am. I'm cancelling things left, right and centre at the moment. I feel for you on the drunken snoring front - I had a bit of that this weekend as well and it's v annoying.

But the thing is, what social activity can you possibly partake in when all you feel like is curling up in a tiny ball and staying very, very still? I vote we hibernate until 2nd trimester blooming-ness (fingers crossed) kicks in!

SpanishLady Tue 02-Apr-13 12:37:28

Hi Dreams - fx hope you will be ok - I do empathise Im 8+5 today - it was this day in my last pregnancy that I MC'd so am feeing abit tense and remembering (happened 1 Feb 2013 so recently)

very glad to hear people are getting booking dates - anyone got their 12 week scan date? I dont see the MW for booking in until next week so am hoping they refer me quickly so I have a date to work towards!

suprisepitstop Tue 02-Apr-13 12:46:11

Bentham i agree! the world can go on having fun without us for a bit! i just want to read rubbish on my kindle! im cancelling this weekend plans for sure , dh can go find some friends if he is bored!

SuffolkNWhat Tue 02-Apr-13 12:47:12

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suprisepitstop Tue 02-Apr-13 12:47:12

spanish i havent got a date yet either. hanging for it as it will make it all much more real!

BenthamFriday Tue 02-Apr-13 12:48:43

Right, that's a deal suprise - we stay away from fun and read / watch rubbish. I like that plan... smile

Spanish - I've got my booking in date for 13th April, but they've also given me the scan date of 3rd May already. Not sure how these things normally work...

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 02-Apr-13 12:54:02

Dreams...how are you doing? What did GP say? I remember that awful moment with my mc too, have everything crossed for you...

Suffolk - lol at the tmi, I'm hoping some of my awful 'pains' are down to that issue!

And yy to all hibernating until trimester 2. This SUCKS. Though a v plain ham and cheese roll has never tasted so good to me as it did just now. Think my workmate was slightly shocked at my level of enjoyment grin

SuffolkNWhat Tue 02-Apr-13 12:54:33

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Dreamstoreality Tue 02-Apr-13 13:26:26

GP has arranged for a scan tomorrow at 3pm. Going to have a sofa day today and hope things settle. My period would have been due now so Im hoping its just a breakthrough (even though I didn't have one last month???)

getoffthecoffeetable Tue 02-Apr-13 13:33:52

Good luck dreams try and take it easy today

PurpleKiwi Tue 02-Apr-13 13:51:22

Sadly I will be leaving this lovely group as we've just had our fears of MC confirmed. Our bean hasn't been growing and I've opted for medical management. Wishing all of you the best for the coming months x

BenthamFriday Tue 02-Apr-13 13:59:06

I'm so sorry Purple - that's awful news. Take care. x

SuffolkNWhat Tue 02-Apr-13 14:01:13

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OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 14:01:13

purplekiwi so sorry to hear about your sad news. All the best to your future baby plans.

Oh purple I'm so sorry. Thinking of you x

Saundy Tue 02-Apr-13 14:14:01

I'm so sorry Purple thinking of you x

SpanishLady Tue 02-Apr-13 14:22:14

best wishes Purple - i am so sorry

EcoHippyMum Tue 02-Apr-13 14:23:16

Really sorry to hear that Purple, my heart goes out to you. Xxx

EcoHippyMum Tue 02-Apr-13 14:26:12

Minesahotchocolate feel kind of rough today. Like I've going to be sick, then it subsides, but also my stomach high up is aching. I think it's likely because I am tensing up with worry. X

littlemonkey2013 Tue 02-Apr-13 14:44:59

well i was watching the old thread and wondering why nobody had posted then i just realised there was this new thread.
so i woke up with a cold yesterday and had no energy at all for the whole day. DH is also ill so we are as bad as each other so we were disturbing each other all night last night.
so woke up this morning still with the cold but the nausea from the last few days has stepped up and now im throwing up.

on the sofa feeling sorry for myself today

Dreamstoreality Tue 02-Apr-13 14:50:18

Purple Thinking of you x

MissTweed Tue 02-Apr-13 15:00:35

So sorry purple sadenvyxx

suprisepitstop Tue 02-Apr-13 15:08:43

really sad news purple

MummaPanda Tue 02-Apr-13 15:34:30

Sorry purple flowers

I am feeling soo sick today. Am snuggled on the sofa feeling absolutely rubbish. I thought I was coming out the other side of the ms phase, guess not!! envy

getoffthecoffeetable Tue 02-Apr-13 15:39:45

So sorry for your loss purple all the best for your future baby plans.

Saundy Tue 02-Apr-13 15:41:27

It sounds like its sick buckets all round then.

Quick question guys, I have my booking in appt tmr - is it the type of appt I should shave my legs for?! (I know I know but am feeling so rough).

honey86 Tue 02-Apr-13 15:47:05

oh purplekiwi im so sorry sadthanks

me and oh has split up. he got nasty and accused me of pushing him away from his babys life just cos i listened to babys heartbeat without him there. then he accused me of the baby not being his. i feel sick angry and upset :'( i cant believe he cud say something so vile sad

OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 15:50:42

saundy they took my blood pressure and weighed me. I also have to provide a first morning urine sample. No, you don't need to shave your legs. And get use to not looking pretty down there for the birth. My lady garden was very neglected by the end. I couldn't see down there so it's a good excuse!

honey I'm so sorry to hear that. I can't believe he's such an ass. It sounds like he's trying for an excuse to fight and then leave you. I can't believe I stuck up for him before in the thread. I hope you can get some good RL support from friends and family.

MissTweed Tue 02-Apr-13 15:52:58

You're fine saundy, its just paperwork and blood tests. And let's face it, we need the extra wooly layers at he moment! wink

Diege Tue 02-Apr-13 16:02:44

So sorry to hear your sad news purple xx
honey sorry it's come to this, but it does sound like he's an arse and at the moment at least it sounds preferable that you don't have to deal with his childish sulks xx
notsoold that's a pain about the harmony...has the offer actually finished now?
Right, off to get my train to the big smoke - will report back about how it all goes on my return!

BangOn Tue 02-Apr-13 16:03:25

saundy rofl at morning sickness bein a reaction to the sperm which has impregnated us. er, no... it's a side effect of rising levels of hormones! was it april 1st when your dp showed you the article? grin

i have my booking in appointment this thursday - actually looking forward to it, because it might help to make the whole thing feel 'official'.

sense of smell is still pretty sensitive but haven't felt nauseous for a few days.

BangOn Tue 02-Apr-13 16:05:31

sorry purple. really hope you're ok.

OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 16:42:02

DH messaged and said we got a letter from the hospital. My scan date will be 16/4, in two weeks time! Only this morning I was worried they have forgotten about me. I will be 12+2 weeks at the scan.

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 02-Apr-13 17:17:41

Oh no sad news today with Purple and Honey, thinking of both sad

How is everybody else? Still feeling sick?

Has anyone developed a really bad pain around the top of one (or both) thighs, like where it joins to the pubic bone? I'm in actual agony when I walk and no clue what it could be?

MummaPanda Tue 02-Apr-13 17:47:51

onelittle we are scan date buddies!! grin

retroelle Tue 02-Apr-13 18:31:38

Oh big bums to purple and honey's news. Thinking of you both.

I was offered the FMC harmony trial but I can't get there during the right dates. I was massively, nerdily excited about it, and I'm gutted I can't take part.

EcoHippyMum Tue 02-Apr-13 18:36:27

Really sorry to hear that Honey sounds like a he needs to do a lot of growing up! How old is he? Hopefully you can get support and not have to deal with the added stress of him now x

Saundy Tue 02-Apr-13 18:40:45

Oh Honey what a nightmare. I hope you're ok, at least now you can focus on yourself rather than have your energy taken up by his immaturity. I'm so sorry for you though.

Thanks one that's all I need to know <tosses razor in bin> & you're right MissT though its more of a fuzzy layer haha.

BangOn tell me about it!! It was yesterday he found it but the article wasn't posted yesterday. I swear to god if he drops his pants shrugs & says 'I'll take one for the team' one more time....!!!

Can't really hell you on the pain Boy I've had a bit of pain in my thigh but not as you describe. Still sick though. Have only managed a yogurt today.

Saundy Tue 02-Apr-13 18:41:44

*help I wouldn't want to hell you!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 02-Apr-13 19:03:14

purple so so sorry thanks take care of yourself

honey really sorry to hear your news too. Hope you are ok.

boy I'm wondering if its SPD. When I had it I had really bad pain in the pubic bone area (none in the thighs though). It was most painful when turning over in bed. It started at 15 weeks for me which is really early. Hope the pain clears up soon.

mine you are do right about breastfeeding and thirst, I never known anything like it.

williaminajetfighter Tue 02-Apr-13 19:06:18

Just catching up... Purple that's awful news. Was really hoping everyone on this thread would be in the clear.

Dreams, I had bleeding and proper clots too but scan was ok. Stay positive.

Going back to my nap! I'm too old for this ms !! Is anyone else on here freaking out about having a baby!!!!confused

suprisepitstop Tue 02-Apr-13 19:09:59

what is spd?william totally freaking out! i dont feel like a responsible enough maternal type! plus we are getting a puppy in august - sucker for punishment!

Dizzy81 Tue 02-Apr-13 19:15:54

Purple kiwi, I'm soo sorry.

Honey, you poor thing. Concentrate on you and the bean.

Work was ok, just got to remember not to get stressed, have a proper lunch break and breath!

Saundy Tue 02-Apr-13 19:16:55

Oh thank god Will I thought I was the only one TOTALLY freaking out!!!

riverflow Tue 02-Apr-13 19:19:58

I'm so sorry Purple i have been there too. Thinking of you. It's so difficult and different for everyone.

riverflow Tue 02-Apr-13 19:28:22

My first preganancy and am 6+3. Dreamt last night that I had plants growing out of my boobs and I had to pull them out and pot them. It was really scary! will and Saundy I am obviously TOTALLY Freaking out! Husband nearly wet himself laughing though. x

MummaPanda Tue 02-Apr-13 19:35:52

I'm freaking out a little, mainly at the thought of having 2 babies under 1!! What was I thinking?! confused

Lol at the plant boobs river!

Dizzy81 Tue 02-Apr-13 19:40:15

River, that made me giggle!!! I once dreamt that jelly bean was a tadpole and I had to insert things into myself to catch it.

THe pooh thing made me chuckle.

EcoHippyMum Tue 02-Apr-13 19:48:07

Omg I am nearly wetting myself with laughter over plant boobs!!! Sorry I shouldn't, but can't help myself!

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 02-Apr-13 19:49:05

Ewwww river that dream made me shiver!!!! I used to dream that I had little coney things growing out of my head between hair strands. That was vile too.

Since being pg I seem to have mainly...erm....kinky type dreams blush not sure why?

EcoHippyMum Tue 02-Apr-13 19:52:09

mumma my eldest two (18 & 17) are only 11 months apart, I didn't find out I was pregnant till nearly 17 weeks gone, the midwives had me sit down as I was so shocked! They said it will be okay, like having twins and I have to say it was easier than I thought, still hard work...youngest was dry during the day a month after her big sister too!

So so sorry purple sad

And hugs to you honey

I am not a well fairy - this chest infection is still raging on and I had to go to bed again this afternoon. Utterly and completely knackered. I've to fly to England with work for the day on Friday and drive too - no idea how I'm going to manage

OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 20:04:24

I'm also feeling very rubbish tonight. Just nauseous and very very tired with no reason other than being pregnant. It was so hard going at work. I'm now under a blanket on the sofa while DH is doing the dishes. I barely ate my dinner too, but craving the icecream. I thought this first trimester sickness was over because I felt human again last week. Can't believe it is back again.

DH has got my old maternity clothes down from the loft. The maternity jeans look a bit loose over the tum still. I guess I will have to find a long jersey to wear to cover up the waist band!

MotherOfCleo Tue 02-Apr-13 20:08:56

so sorry purple.

honey he sounds like hes being a tool! Men are such hard work huh!

will I am too, I panic when I think alls not ok with the baby, then I panic when I think everything is ok.....eeeek. Im screwed either way!

surprise your mad, my puppy was far harder to deal with than my friends baby (her words not mine). She said that at least babies sleep lots, you get most of the evening to yourselves and they dont pee and poo on the floor, steal food, chew things etc etc. I love our pooch heaps but she was a bloody nightmare when she was tiny.

louby86 Tue 02-Apr-13 20:12:02

So sorry Purple xx

hmmhoney, hope you're getting lots of RL support

Surprise - we got our puppy when I was five months pregnant with DS, it worked out really well smile

OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 20:14:11

Pee and poo on the floor - it's called potty training
Steal food - weaning
Chew things - teething
Evenings - but dogs don't wake up 2-3 times a night. I remember there was a point I considered one waking as a victory!

riverflow Tue 02-Apr-13 20:14:24

When are you due onelittletoddleterror? Am hoping that you are a good bit later than me (24th Nov) I have no symptoms other than really sore boobs (...with occasional plants growing out of them...). I felt a little sick when husband was cooking black pudding for breakfast at the weekend but that's it.

Hoping I am still pregnant. Had MC at 5 weeks a few months ago, concentrating on celebrating my 6+3 status and beating my record but totally not thought about getting bigger and maternity wear etc. I can't see past the scan date in May, never mind an actual baby! Don't like to hope incase it all goes wrong again.

Anyway sorry to hear that your sickness is back. brew

mycatlikestwiglets Tue 02-Apr-13 20:14:26

Marking place on new thread.

So sorry to hear your sad news kiwi.

Best of luck to Dreams for the scan tomorrow - I had a small breakthrough bleed at around 8 weeks last time around and it was just a bit of cervical erosion - I think it's quite common so fingers crossed for you.

honey86 Tue 02-Apr-13 20:20:45

fml even in the seething emotional state im in today i still cudnt stifle a laugh at the plant boob dream... oh dear <wipes a tear away> how thankful i am for MN x

he told my mum he still loves me and wants to be with me but right now i dont. if anyone saw my post on am i being unreasonable threads, theyd see a fraction of what i had to put up with. he disrespected my kids dead father and didnt let me mention him even to the kids without throwing a paddy. its just not healthy sad

OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 20:23:53

riverflow I'm due on 27/10. What you said for me googling. This NHS page says it is usually cleared by 12-14 weeks.


I always thought it would be gone by 12, but I guess it is common to last a bit longer? Fx it's gone for you for good.

MissTweed Tue 02-Apr-13 20:34:41

Anyone else got their 12w scan on 15th April??

EcoHippyMum Tue 02-Apr-13 20:35:41

I won't go into how many animals we have but I could open a petting zoo!

Anyone else had really achy back and little niggles in the tummy? I can't get comfortable!

firsttimemummyy Tue 02-Apr-13 20:36:08

Hi all
I just wanted to share something my sister (who's a doctor) mentioned to me when I said I was thinking of an early scan to put my mind at ease, that I hadn't even thought of - the safety of having scans done. I'm definitely not trying to scare anyone here and I will certainly be going for my 12 week scan (can't wait!) but it seems that the situation with regards to ultrasound, especially in the first trimester, isn't just as simple as 'its definitely safe cause everyone has it done'. This article was linked to one of my baby apps on my iPhone and is reassuring, but it seems we should maybe consider that ultrasound is not 100% consequence free and be careful in these delicate first 12 weeks - particularly using dopplars http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a1014487/are-ultrasound-scans-safe

MotherOfCleo Tue 02-Apr-13 20:37:22

yeah one I appreciate all that you say but with a puppy you get all of those at once from day one, also they do need to be let out around twice in the night to start with. confused

I am hoping my bubba will poo/pee mainly in a nappy, stay where its put (at least for a few months) and not need me to take it out in the cold rain and snow to go 'wee wee'. They do say a puppy is good preparation for a baby, just hats off to surprise for wanting to do both at the same time. grin

MotherOfCleo Tue 02-Apr-13 20:39:15

honey he certainly sounds like a lot to deal with, he sounds like he has a fair amount of unresolved issues that he needs to deal with! hmm

riverflow Tue 02-Apr-13 20:40:09

Ah honey sorry to hear that, you know yourself what is the best thing for you and your kids. Hope it works out for you.

riverflow Tue 02-Apr-13 20:53:04

Thanks firsttimemummy I actually just checked out the cost of early scans and emailed the Edinburgh Clinic a few moments ago, thinking that there were no consequences. I will now look into those consequences and decide if its worth any risk. I was so busy trying to make it all be okay after my last mc, that I hadn't thought of that! Thanks

OneLittleToddleTerror Tue 02-Apr-13 20:55:44

motherofcleo I was being a bit tongue in cheek. I guess you would be able to tell us which is harder in 9 months! I suspect it very much depends on the baby. My DD is a good sleeper, but two of my friends have absolute terrors when it comes to bedtime. I told them about bedtime live on channel 4 because their toddlers could be on the show! Neither goes to bed until the parents do, and both wakes multiple times a night still. And they have stories of waking in the dead of night wanting to play.

I wonder if puppies have personalities as varied as babies.

I had a puppy when I was young but ofc my mum took care of it. My current cat was around 6 when we took her from the local rescue. I'm sure kittens and puppies are hard work.

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 02-Apr-13 21:00:44

Wow first time that's a really valid point.

Can anyone summarise the level of risk? (I'm meant to be working on my post grad course, not googling! Naughty)

berrybomb Tue 02-Apr-13 21:06:33

Saundy - that article made me laugh. Showed my DP, he has kindly offered to let me give that a try, how generous.

Purple - I'm so sorry, hugs

Honey - what an @rse. Hope you can cross him off the list of things to worry about!

Just checking in to the new thread and catching up! I got my scan letter through - 22nd April. I also told my boss today, because I had 2 days off last week when I went panicky about the bleed and had the scan. She was very supportive and really excited, so that is a massive weight off my shoulders!

Symptoms wise not a lot today, just tired after being back at work

firsttimemummyy Tue 02-Apr-13 21:13:26

This article is not a good one to read (it's the one that scared me into listening to my sister and not booking an early scan!) - http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/ultrasoundrodgers.asp
It is a bit scientific and relates to autism at the start but if you scroll down there are sections on general risk.
Interestingly I couldn't find any scientific proof that they are safe,just the fact that everyone has them done and there are no obvious birth problems.
But an autistic child comes out 100% healthy and you only discover the problems years later,so would that be picked up?
As I said I really don't want to worry people as I know scans are often a medical necessity, I just wanted to pass on the info that my sister flagged to me just in case it helped someone make a more informed decision

firsttimemummyy Tue 02-Apr-13 21:15:35

Sorry i think the link was too long to fit!
here it is broken up so it fits on the page-

suprisepitstop Tue 02-Apr-13 21:23:47

thanks mother and one for the tips on puppies, i am wavering! my friend at worl has a lovely working spaniel bitch and is having her mated (we can take dogs to work). before i knew I was pregnant shd told me about mating her and I enthusiastically said yes please to one of the pups. Now I am seriously concerned but people keep telling me it will work. eep. at least I can take it to work - when i am back at work the dog and I will be dropping the poor baby at childcare and going off together.

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 02-Apr-13 21:26:01

Wow you can take dogs to work? I didn't know anywhere did that! Are you in an office? My dog would LOVE if I could take him. Well, maybe. Actually he'd probably drool on everything then sulk at lack of walkies.

stuffthenonsense Tue 02-Apr-13 21:26:20

Firsttimemummy if you are on fb there is a group I'm a member of, called Doppler Danger where you can get lots of articles about the risks of both Doppler and ultrasound. Essentially they should really only be used for if there is reason to believe there could be a problem. I think the risks of maternal anxiety eg past mc/current bleeding can quite probably justify a quick check to confirm all is well, but certainly the longer ones, 4D and ones where you're given a DVD are pretty risky.

harverina Tue 02-Apr-13 21:27:57

Purplekiwi, I am so sorry for your loss, what awful news. Best wishes for the future. Hope that you are ok.

I have lots to catch up on and working on uni work tonight so will catch up a bit later.

Someone asked about bag pain and niggles in tummy - yes! My back has been pretty sore and have had lots of little pains on and off in my tummy, including stitch like pains.

Someone else (sorry sorry I am being rubbish tonight - feel like I need a pen and paper to write down notes as I read!) also asked about struggling with socialising? Well I just dont want to do it!! I want to hibernate! The thought of being with drunk people when I am sober also does not appeal to me smile I need to remind myself to make an effort with friends this time. I was terrible last time.

Ok have to go now, but will read later when I am finished uni work sad its horrible having to sit here and do work when I have been at work all day grrrr.

harverina Tue 02-Apr-13 21:30:15

Oh and I had no idea that there were risks associated with ultra sounds! I dont think that any health professional has ever told me that which is appalling!!

suprisepitstop Tue 02-Apr-13 21:34:35

boy yes its an office, quite a few are starting to let you take dogs. there are usually quite a few cruising around the floor which is nice, a furry cuddle is a lovely stress relief!

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 02-Apr-13 21:46:25

Omg - to both dogs in offices and ultrasounds!

Wish mine was a dog friendly office, how amazing!

Stuff - are the 4D ones risky even in later pregnancy? I'd so had my heart set on one if I make it that far but now feeling worried about it - would never forgive myself If I had one then something happened hmm

Lucky13ForBaby Tue 02-Apr-13 21:57:42

sad having an early scan 2mor due to previous miscarriages am now petrified of it causing another sad

MummaPanda Tue 02-Apr-13 21:58:37

suprise that is awesome! I'd love to work somewhere like that! Its such a good idea!

firsttimemummyy Tue 02-Apr-13 22:01:24

stuff thanks for the fb group info, I will have a look at it!
Interestingly my mum was saying that when she was pregnant with me (nearly 30 years ago) you never had a 12 week scan, you just had a blood test to assess the risk of downs - the first and only scan she had was at 5 months.
I have to say it makes sense to me that heating up and vibrating the baby by ultrasound even if just a small amount cannot be good, especially now when its so tiny it will get a full blast and all the organs are forming etc. Plus was quite disturbed by the fact that when a microphone was put in the uterus it sounds like the noise of a subway train coming into a station! No wonder the poor babies try to wriggle away from it!

firsttimemummyy Tue 02-Apr-13 22:06:13

Lucky13 don't worry - I haven't seen any suggestion that it actually causes miscarriage, it's just the potential long term risk to organs like the brain etc - however, perhaps just ask for the scan to be very quick just to check all's ok and on the lowest possible setting and I'm sure there'll be no damage at all

MummaPanda Tue 02-Apr-13 22:39:24

They can't be that dangerous or they wouldn't do it! I must say the scans are my favourite part of pregnancy, getting to see your little person wriggling around and already developing their own personality is absolutely amazing. Nothing is going to stop me enjoying every single second of mine!

Mumma I agree. I've been already for a scan and I honestly don't need anything else to worry about right now! There are risks in EVERYTHING we do - read up about them if you wish but let's keep some perspective

harverina Tue 02-Apr-13 23:25:35

My early scan was over in about 40 seconds - literally, this is no exaggeration, so maybe this is why. Who knows. AGree with you mumma that they cannot be too dangerous otherwise they would not be done, though they do carry risks.

I am in bed still working away on uni work but have the worst heartburn and cravings - I bought a caesar salad earlier as i have been desperate for it all week but had to give it away as Im not allowed it sad Now all I am thinking about is caesar salad. I will need to have somthing to eat as I feel a bad sickness night coming on if I dont.

Cannot believe that dogs are allowed in some offices! Thats hilarious! Surely if you can take your dog to work you could take your baby....;)

Suprise...I love animals but dont think I could have coped with a puppy and new baby at a similar time. Maybe an older dog may have been easier - I grew up with dogs so they have always been a part of my life, but puppies can be really hard work. On the plus side, think of all the long walks your dog will get along with your new baby smile

Boymeetsworld, my dreams havent been kinky yet but OMG last time they were diiiirrrrttty!! I woke up most mornings absolutely mortified haha!

Williamina, good to see you back, wondered how you were.

Honey thinking of you. Its hard being pregnant without you having to deal with all of this too, so probably a good idea to take a break from OH just now even in the short term until you know what you want to do.

Ok I really need to go, heartburn is awful sad I think its all the fanta zero I have been drinking...oh and rememebr how I was eating smoked salmon constantly? I had to give my last packet away tonight as I couldnt even open the fridge without boaking at it. The thought of it makes me want to be sick. Only a short time ago it was my friend and MS cure smile

Hope you all get a decent sleep tonight. I was up at the crack of dawn as DH left at 4.30am to get an early flight. DD and I were both disturbed and couldnt get back to sleep sad and today I feel a bit rubbish. A decent sleep is def a huge help.

harverina Tue 02-Apr-13 23:26:26

Sorry for huge post - this is why it is better that I use my phone rather than laptop as I have a tendency to get carried away blush

louby86 Tue 02-Apr-13 23:51:27

Surprise- you'll be fine with the pup, ours was brilliant! We took him training up until the week I had DS then it became a job for DH. We put stair gates up from the start and never let him in the nursery so he'd never associate being restricted with a new baby. A lot of people thought I was mad but it worked really well for us and actually helped me prepare for motherhood in a strange way smile

louby86 Tue 02-Apr-13 23:55:46

In terms of scans I'm a firm believer in the whole of parenthood being a massive risk assessment, whether it be scans/delivery methods/immunisations, each to their own. For some (maybe most) the risk associated with scans is outweighed by the need to have your anxiety bought under control. You need to do what is right for you and your family, whether that's something other people agree with or not. Everything from here on in has an element of risk, look at the leaflet they make you read on epidurals for example, or the disclaimers you have to sign for surgery. Welcome to parenthood smile

Wibblypiglikesbananas Wed 03-Apr-13 00:16:29

Hi all! Hope the sickness isn't too bad.

So sorry to hear the bad news earlier up the thread.

The scans one is tricky, especially with there being lots of different advice out there. I was much more wary last time round but this time, as I'm having the baby in the US, I'm following the US advice and you can have a scan anytime you like. Seriously, they tell me there is no risk and it's super common here.

Now, whether that is actually the case is another question but I'd drive myself insane if I questioned everything I was told by my Dr here. It's quite interesting as because we're part of such an international crowd, you get a real range of views and opinions on what's right or not depending on cultural viewpoints. My Swiss friend thought it was crazy not to have an early scan when I told her I was deliberating as it wasn't standard in the UK - she says they do them early in Switzerland to check how many you're having!

I agree with harverina - in and out in no time, it's not like they hang around in there! I guess like louby86 says, it's all down to choice at the end of the day.

Have a lovely evening all!

firsttimemummyy Wed 03-Apr-13 00:29:36

Hi all I'm really sorry I didn't mean to come across as telling people not to have scans - I really believe they are a good thing in many situations (whether medical or to reduce anxiety) and I am counting down the days till my first one in a few weeks!

My point really was just to highlight the issue to anyone who, like me, hadn't thought that a scan should be, as louby says, a risk assessment - weighing up the good and possible (altho unlikely) bad points. I had presumed before my sister mentioned anything to me that scans were a no questions need to be asked 100% safe procedure with no possible side effects - but perhaps I should have known without needing to research that nothing in pregnancy is 100% risk free! I was just worrying also for people who were mentioning dopplars after a few things I read.

Anyway I think I might be a bit on the too cautious side (prob being my first one) so really sorry again for causing worry to anyone. None of us need any more worry than we give to ourselves so will keep myself in check from now on!

Dizzy81 Wed 03-Apr-13 00:57:46

Morning all,

Woke up for a wee now can't get back to sleep. Grrr,

I too am having back pain and niggling stomach pains / like implantation cramps! I'm guessing its a good sign?

Thank you for the scan info firsttime , I had mine to put my mind at rest and to asure me I was pregnant! I'm counting down the days to 12 weeks for the scan. I just want to know my jelly beans growing ok. Then I can start thinking about maternity leave - wishing the days away already! There has been a boom in pregnancies on the company I work for recently, could be the 50 shades effect?

Dizzy81 Wed 03-Apr-13 02:13:35

I'm craving a subway salad!!!

honey86 Wed 03-Apr-13 03:51:05

so do i sad just woke up as ds decided it was playtime hmm but decided to vent this on fb and had a massive anxiety attack. cos for a second i was worried itll make my oh angry (hed question in a jealous way as if i was guilty for using my fb app at that kinda time). to me, thats an emotional scar, and cant believe im actually intimidated by him still when hes not even here sad

So sorry to see we have lost a few ladies from the group.

I am wide awake and enjoying another round of the heartburn-nausea-heartburn cycle. And if DP keeps snoring I might just smother him. Grrrrr

Feeling marginally stressed as moving house in three weeks and so tired I can't bring myself to do any packing. Our car died last week and DP is moping about because he has a cold. A cold which has prevented him emptying the bin. I can't do it as the smell makes me heave. It's the one thing I asked him to do. I feel grump as I'm the one sorting the whole move even though he gets the greater benefits.

Grump grump grumpy. I have my first midwife appointment next Tuesday. I'm going to change mw in three weeks as well! Plus I have to interview for my own job next week. I feel very stressy!

Slippysnow Wed 03-Apr-13 06:14:14

misstweed( I think it was you) my scan is also the 15th at 9.30. Not long to wait!

Dizzy81 Wed 03-Apr-13 06:59:29

Honey, I had those pains before my early scan and everything was ok. Huge huge your way too.

Msfanacker, he's got man flu, the most dangerous thing known to man kind!!! Try and keep calm, easier said than done I know.

Ariel21 Wed 03-Apr-13 08:07:49

Marking place until I can catch up!

Going Bridesmaid dress shopping this weekend so am going to have to spill the beans... Feels weird though as only 6 weeks ish and not telling most people yet!

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 08:25:51

Ariel - when are you bridesmaid? I'm going to be a bridesmaid the end of August!

Firsttime - don't worry, you didn't come across like you we're telling people not to have them. This is just the start of the should I/shouldn't I process of being a mummy smile

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 08:55:03

FWIW I don't trust random website or fb group on medical advice. They are more likely to be filled with scaremongering stories. I have not looked at the risk of ultrasound scans. But I know many other countries have a lot more scans than the UK. (Though a friend in Sweden has to go to London for a private 12 week scan as that's not done there. They don't believe in down's screening). Don't even start me on the immunisation thing.

I agree there are risks with epidurals and other procedures. The NHS is pretty good at giving us the risks. For example I was advise against pathedine by a specialist midwife last time. There was also nothing I could take without risks for my eczema last time too. They both pose much more recognised risks than ultrasounds. I guess if you are giving your bump a daily dose, it is a different story. But I really doubt anyone of us would be. I will read what they gave me, or the current NICE guidelines.

To not scare people on here I did do a search on medical journals and Doppler scans. The first hit I got was a paper from 2001 and it said the risk is higher in 2nd and 3rd trimesters. So it's not automatic that it is worse for smaller foetuses.

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 09:05:07

That doesn't sound like a good legacy he's left honey, but it sounds like you're getting some perspective which is a good thing. I remember when an ex left & the weeks following were done of the happiest of my life. Just realising how much easier things were without him. Obvs I wasn't pregnant so not quite the same. I hope you can figure out what's best for you and DC.

That sounds crap MsFP give him a kick up the arse.

It's always good to have the info first so don't feel bad about sharing. Though I'm not a big stresser, it's a bit late for me early scan wise but that's ok I'm not worried & we all know to keep a bit of perspective. Interesting to know re home dopplers though.

I hope you're feeling better Fairy.

Oh & big mistake Berry you'll live to regret that one lol.

DP has to go to a bloody meeting in Scotland today, only found out last night. So he's gonna miss the first midwives appt. Bit gutted. Not least of all because he's taken the car!!

harverina Wed 03-Apr-13 09:18:32

Morning all!

Had a rubbish sleep - heartburn and nausea hmm then had a little wriggly visitor in the night too! Then I stupidly put the heating on because we felt cold, fell asleep and woke up later on boiling!!

Sitting outside work in the car and can't face going on. On the plus side my mum had made me a cheese sandwich when I dropped dd off this morning. I devoured it on the way to work and it has really helped grin

I lost my scan letter!! Convinced dh has moved it...anyway called up and my scan is first thing on 23 April. Can't wait! (Though slightly nervous too!)

Honey sounds like your oh has not been good for you - although easier for other people to say your better off without him, not so easy in your situation hmm to make that decision.

Saundy shame your dh will miss your first appointment but don't worry there really isn't much to it.

Someone mentioned yesterday that they wanted their oh in with them - don't even ask, don't mention it, just walk in with him! It's your decision who you take in with you for support (to any medical appointment) dh came to all my appointments first time and no one batted an eyelid grin

Ok so is better get into work and face the music. Supposed to start almost an hour ago. Thank goodness for flexi.

Hope you all have a good day grin

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 09:20:11

first I don't mean to sound harsh, btw. I'm sure your sister means well. I agree with the home doppler too. And that we shouldn't overuse them. But I think going for those not so frequent scans at the hospitals is definitely fine. (Not sure how long are those 4D scans). I don't want any of us being put off having scans.

And to whoever said their parents didn't have scans. My mum didn't either. I think 30 odd years ago, these scans are either too expensive, didn't exist or wasn't safe. My mum said she didn't have gas and air or other drugs for a VB either. She was given a piece of plastic to chew on! My brother was born with c-section because he was breech, so they did have that!

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 09:21:50

Oh and she said her recovery from c-section was horrible. And she had a huge scar on her tummy. I'm sure it's nothing like this now.

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 09:39:05

Cheers harv I know it'll be fine, if she wants to try for the heart beat though will be a bit gutted he missed it. They don't usually like to though so probably not even worth thinking about. I could always say no ta, but totally wouldn't!!

Have had 2 weeks off work, dreading going back so really feeling for those who are struggling through it at the min.

I actually do work in an office where I could bring my baby to work if I needed to, though not every day obvs. Can't imagine I'd get much done though.

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 09:40:07

Giving birth is not something I'm ready to start thinking about yet one haha!!!!

My friends c section scar from 2 weeks ago is tiny and already healed! Think years ago they cut you lengthways confused

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 09:47:51

Fairy my mum's scar is vertical if that's what you mean. It's really really long!

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 09:49:31

Actually now I think about it, I don't remember if it's really vertical. It's just one of my fuzzy childhood memories hmm

I feel sorry for people who had those sorts of c sections - they just have been in agony for months!

Waiting on Gp to call me back about yet more antibiotics for my chest. Seriously sick of taking tablets!

berrybomb Wed 03-Apr-13 09:57:26

Saundy - gutted your DP can't be there for appointment, but if it's your booking in, he won't miss much. There wasn't even a spare chair for my DP at my appointment - he had to jump up on the bed. The MW asked me all the questions, and I tried to include him, but there wasn't much he could add.

On the scans debate, I agree with most here, that the anxiety and stress it would have caused me not having it done would be way more dangerous to baby than having the early scan. It's an interesting read though firsttime, and I'll be reviewing it if I get to the stage of wanting a 4D scan, someone mentioned this might be more dangerous.

So after feeling smug for not having very much MS, it hit with force this morning. I couldn't face a piece of toast, then had to run to the loo to puke up the ill-tasting pregnancy vitamin that was the only thing in my tummy! Ick.

On the subject of birth 30 years ago, my mum and both me and brother by elective C-section, because she is very slight, and has size 3 feet (just the same as me), and they thought she just wouldn't be able to do it. I think this has changed, and I'll be pushing! My mum wholly recommends c-sections, and from a kid I've had it in my head that's the easiest way to do it!

Over here partners are ejected from the booking in app until you get your scan! Apparently it's so women feel happier about disclosing domestic abuse etc if the partner isn't there hovering over her

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 10:02:03

Oh dear Berry ms kicking in 24 hours after showing DP that article is bad timing haha, I hope it doesn't last!

berrybomb Wed 03-Apr-13 10:11:13

Haha Saundy, he had the decency not to bring that up this morning while I was feeling rough. I expect it will get mentioned tonight!!

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 10:20:08

berry a friend of mine is very small but her DH is very tall. She was told nature is very clever and that the baby would be the right size for her to push. She was worried the baby would be too large to push.

I'm very petite too, 160cm and size 8 (topshop 8, I can't fit anything in M&S or gap). My bump was tiny last time and I was sent for a growth scan. The sonographer had a look at me and said, ofc your baby would be tiny grin. DD was born just over 2.5kg, which is the weight she'd have to be kept in hospital for being born underweight. Even the newborn size was too big when she was born.

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 10:20:38

I mean my DD was born VB. So I think they'll make you push now even if you are petite.

berrybomb Wed 03-Apr-13 10:25:22

Onetoddle - yep, I think they'll make me push as well. Which I'm fine with. TBH, I'm trying not to think about the birth yet!!

retroelle Wed 03-Apr-13 10:28:42

I'm petite too - 5' tall and a topshop 8. My mum is equally tiny and had four kids by VB; I've never even considered it could be a problem. I'm more concerned about finding maternity clothes that don't swamp me!

Us petite ladies will be more or less spherical at full term smile

notsoold Wed 03-Apr-13 10:31:37

morning all!!!

still lurking over here but I wanted to say honey I am thinking of you...xx

My scan will be on the 12th April!!!! It means DH will be able to come (as it is school holidays)...

berry...I read the article and I will not show DH ever smile

hello to everyone!!! xx

TiredFeet Wed 03-Apr-13 10:34:21

Hi all, catching up with the new thread! Wow it moves fast!
No way am I showing dh the article about the supposed morning sickness cure! Something tells me a man wrote that...

purple I am so sorry to hear your news and wish you the best
dreams I hope everything goes well at the scan
honey I really feel for you. The relationships board is a great place to post if you need support and advice. And we are here for you too whenever you need us. If it helps you feel less alone, me and dh weren't in a good place when I found out I was pregnant, I am still not sure what will happen, I think we will try and work things through for a bit longer, ds loves his dad so I don't want us to all live apart but I also don't think it is good for children to grow up with constant rows. And my friends whose parents limped along and split when they were teenagers/adults all found it harder to cope with I have noticed.

Re c-sections, I had an emergency one as ds got into a crazy breech position in labour (they think because he was just too big - he had a massive head and was 9lb7 and I am quite small). I loved it! I have such happy memories of the whole experience, especially seeing DS being lifted out and then having my first cuddle. Recovery was hard but not that awful, and my scar is barely visible.

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 10:37:13

reterolle topshop and h&m both does size 8 maternity clothes. I was eyeing up the pink jeans on h&m website yesterday. But I already have a pair of maternity jeans so I'm debating to myself if I need a new pair, even though it will be a different colour!

But I know what you mean by swarmed. The tops look very large generally. But last time I managed with maternity trousers and normal long knitted tops until quite late. But I seems to be showing much earlier this time sad. I already couldn't fit into my jeans and work trousers and it is only 10 weeks. Last time I was in Japan during 11-13 weeks and I am sure I was wearing all normal clothes!

TiredFeet Wed 03-Apr-13 10:37:45

retroelle yes I didn't put on weight anywhere other than my bump last time (thanks to hyperemesis!) But my bump was enormous! I think it is perfectly right to expect a normal birth, ds was just excessively large relative to my size but if I had had a proportionally sized baby it would have been fine

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 10:42:55

My sister is 5' & her baby daddy is 6'5" my nephew is 8 years old & nearly as tall as me but somehow came out a very reasonable 7lb something when he was born. I'm 5'4" so slightly taller but still expecting to go full sphere!

School girl error Berry DP showed me the article 5 times yesterday, I think he's probably getting printouts today, he'll probably paper a wall in them haha.

MummaPanda Wed 03-Apr-13 10:43:53

retro I am 5ft2 and I have the funniest picture taken the day before my waters broke with dd, honestly looks like I've got a basketball under my top! It does look funny having such a big bump on such small people, I didn't look like I should be able to stand without toppling over last time!

berrybomb Wed 03-Apr-13 10:47:28

What size shoe are all the petite people? I'm 5'4 and size 8, but back 30 years ago when my mum was having babies, they said because she had size 3 feet she wouldn't be able to do it. I've read a few up to date articles that say that was believed at the time, but now known to be twoddle!!

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 10:50:05

berry do you mean you have size 8 feet? or size 8 clothes? My shoe size is 4. So bigger than your mum. There are lots of things that were believed and then discarded. It's called science grin.

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 10:51:28

But do they do vanity sizing on shoes? I mean was a 3 then the same as a 3 now?

retroelle Wed 03-Apr-13 10:52:37

The boots I'm wearing today are a size 4 (clarks) but are a bit big. I'm probably a 3.5 but you can't usually get those, so I opt for comfort smile

I suppose they thought that foot size was related to pelvis size, which sounds like nonsense to me. Your pelvis opens up for the birth anyway.

MummaPanda Wed 03-Apr-13 11:00:31

I was shoe size 5.5 but since dd I'm now size 6 lol

berrybomb Wed 03-Apr-13 11:01:20

Haha - no, I'm size 8 clothes, and size 3 feet! Oops, didn't realise how that read!!

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 11:04:22

Actually I'm probably size 3.5 too retroelle. I can wear size 4 boots and anything with laces or straps. But size 4 ballet pumps always fall off me. The shops don't sell size 3 so I have never tried pumps in size 3. I just avoid them.

retroelle Wed 03-Apr-13 11:18:12

I did a quick medical journal search (why yes, I do have work to do) and I found this British Medical Journal article from 1988 which makes me think it contributed to the end of foot size as a risk factor


I did find quite a lot of articles linking maternal height and likelihood of c-section, but mainly small sample sizes, low significance vales, and not in the top journals, so I shall stand by my previous hope for a VB.

berrybomb Wed 03-Apr-13 11:30:41

Thanks for that retro - interesting read. I too will stick to the assumption that I'll be pushing!

MotherOfCleo Wed 03-Apr-13 11:35:25

whoop whoop now craving fruit, this has to be healthier than crisps grin

Lol mother I'm wanting apples and I bloody hate apples!

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 11:44:25

I've been buying apples!

I'd love a bacon butty with red sauce at the mo lol

BenthamFriday Wed 03-Apr-13 11:47:17

Loving all the shorties on this thread! I'm 4'11'' and 2.5 feet, so I have the dubious honour of being the smallest so far. Not sure what they would have said about me having a baby back then hmm especially as DH is 6'1''...

I'm worried about maternity clothes - where will we find them? I have such short little legs...

Does next do petite maternity? I've got the opposite problem in that I find most trousers too short!

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 11:59:51

Fairy I found next sizes are on the big side. I have to wear a 6 in next and they don't do many 6s.

Bentham I have very short legs too and have never bought a single pair of trousers that fit without alteration sad. I now take the trouser legs up myself.

BenthamFriday Wed 03-Apr-13 12:00:43

That's a good thought Fairy - will check.

Ah, to have your lovely, long legs... wink

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 12:06:47

BTW, the smallest maternity jeans size h&m does is 8 and topshop is 8L30. (But the rose leigh I've been eyeing is only in 8L32). The H&M ones I got was pretty snug last time, and was too small by the last few weeks. I switched to dress trousers and leggings only towards to end, instead of forking out for another pair of jeans to wear for a few weeks.

SpanishLady Wed 03-Apr-13 12:13:02

Hi everyone

I had a c-section (emergency due to failure to progress) after being induced and would recommend getting an epidural for the induction as was excruciating to go from a bit of pressure to full labour in about 30 mins!

im 5'2 and would love to be size 8 again - im a dumpy size 12!

9 weeks tomorrow and well still nauseous not so bad that I cant function so a blessed relief

getoffthecoffeetable Wed 03-Apr-13 12:31:58

Hi all.
I'm 5'6 and a size 12. I'm still managing to fit in all my jeans, it's my smart and suit trousers for work that I can't fit into.
spanish were you induced by the drip? I had a pessary and was fine on gas and air when I had DS.
I had a monster sleep last night. Laid down after putting DS to bed, fell asleep and DH woke me up at 8.10 when he got home. All I did then was put my pjs on and crawl into bed. Think I slept for eleven hours and I still feel like I could have a nap now and probably will when DS goes down for his nap
I've been for my blood test this morning which is done separately at the Outpatient Clinic at Boots here. I was really nervous but the woman was fantastic and really quick. DS behaved himself in there too thank goodness!

BenthamFriday Wed 03-Apr-13 12:33:03

One - I feel your pain. I can't sew though, so DH has to do it! Will have a pootle to H&M when the time comes, thanks!

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 12:43:52

Bentham I bought the sewing machine because I was fed up paying £10 to take the legs up on every single pair of trousers. I did a little bit of sewing in home economics at school and so did DH. I followed the instruction on the DVD how to thread the machine and then I just started doing up some pyjamas I have at home grin. I found the woman I paid before didn't do anything fancy either. She just sewed a straight line around the bottom of the leg. It's easier than it looked. But if you've never used a sewing machine before, I can see how it would look impossible.

(When I mean the jeans from h&m are snug, I mean around my bum. Obviously I've shorten the legs too).

BenthamFriday Wed 03-Apr-13 12:48:22

Have just found a couple of videos on YouTube - am inspired! For the amount I pay to tailors, £100 on a sewing machine would be more than worth it. Thanks!

(Got it! May go up a size in that case wink)

harverina Wed 03-Apr-13 14:02:01

I'm craving Caesar salad - is there no way I can have it?? I'm desperate hmm

Why can't you have it?! M&s Caesar dressing is bound to be safe or tescos etc

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 14:07:31

I think it's only homemade mayonnaise that is not safe because it contains raw eggs. Unless you are thinking of something else?

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 14:11:27

Though I have to admit I forgot during easter and had a cheesecake at a pub. I have no idea if it's a baked one (or only cream cheese if not baked). I didn't even rememember until that evening. But since I'm not poisoned yet.

I had sushi last time because after a week in Japan I just couldn't resist eating them. I'm unlikely to go back anytime soon and it seemed such a missed opportunity to not have sushi in Japan!

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 14:12:34

Nice to see some of you on the pregnancy exercise thread! Definitely feel more at ease now, I dragged myself off to spinning this morning, was hard work but feeling much better for it.

honey86 Wed 03-Apr-13 14:12:53

i was naughty yesterday and had blue cheese sauce on my steak (which was well done). but i asked dr google and it sed it should be ok cos its cooked :/ x

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 14:13:50

Um now you lot reminded me I also had two salads at different places .... blush. I really need to remember better this time. I was a lot more cautious last time round. I remember avoiding all burgers at pubs as they always come with lettuces and tomatoes. And also all side salads. Basically limiting to boiled and roasted veges. It's not as bad as it sound because it's pretty much safe if you stick with the roast.

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 14:14:52

honey oh dear my steak was medium. I really need to be more careful. I know the risk is very low, but what if I'm the unlucky one to get food poisoning or listeria?

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 14:15:56

louby I am not on the exercise thread, but it's definitely to go keep going. I cycled to work last time till I went off on maternity. There were quite a few raised eyebrows.

honey86 Wed 03-Apr-13 14:20:16

oh my days i just got a huge bunch of flowers delivered to me from my newly made ex.. sayin hes sorry.. but he was so vile to me yesterday i still cant believe hed think id sleep about n get preg by a random.. its going to be so awkward at the booking appointment fri sad i dunno wat to say. all i know is rite now i dont feel the same about him anymore x

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 14:20:18

OneLittle - they've been great at the gym, it's mostly been people who don't really exercise passing comment. I'm sure they'll be more people who say things too once more people find out.

I need to be more careful with food too, had Camembert at the weekend but it was very well cooked.

TiredFeet Wed 03-Apr-13 14:35:43

honey sad I can see why you would feel very upset with him, but maybe don't rush into any decision right now as it is such an emotional time for everyone.

Its so hard remembering everything you can't have to eat! Think I need to go read the list again. I managed most of the time last time but with the occasional slip up/ giving in to temptation. All I feel like eating at the moment is crisps though!

MissTweed Wed 03-Apr-13 14:36:44

Afternoon ladies..... I've just woken up with bleary eyes post night shift..... Can someone please quickly recap on why you can't eat salad??? I had a Quick back scan and can't find where it started. TIA smile

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 14:41:48

MissTweed you can't eat unwashed fruits or salads because soil can give you toxoplasmosis (I think it's toxoplasmosis). You can eat all the salads you like at home because you know you have wash it well. But there is no guarantee in a pub.

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 14:52:23

To all the first time mums, here's a list of food to avoid (or eat with risk understood) from the NHS

I didn't know about any of this first time round. I didn't even take folic acid blush. But we has a fantastic early pregnancy class in my area that went through this. I think some of you might not have this in your area, or haven't even seen a midwife/GP. So hopefully it's useful to some.

berrybomb Wed 03-Apr-13 15:34:34

And now I can't stop thinking about caesar salad either! Weirdly I fancied an M&S chicken caesar wrap for lunch yesterday, but they'd run out. The food shop tonight will include caesar salad ingredients!

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 16:10:43

Harv it's a good job you've gone off smoked salmon as my midwife told me today that its on the no list, with runny eggs & prawns!! Oh the injustice. Good news is the caesar sauce is fine as its processed & not made fresh so go for it (if it was a sauce issue).

I want a rare steak so bad.

BF I have to second the sewing machine vote. I bought one & gave myself a baptism of fire by making a pair of blackout lined curtains my first project pretty much nailed it. If I can make them you can defo hem some trousers!

Don't rush yourself Honey make sure you take all the time you need to figure out how you feel. It's good that he's sorry & it's your choice now.

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 16:16:12

Saundy the NHS page I linked says prawns are ok if they are cooked through until steaming hot. I think it's another one of those eat only if you look it yourself list. I think the danger with eating out is they are very likely to be slightly undercooked, like scallops and steaks.

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 16:28:52

She was defo on the cautious side, was trying to put me off chicken! That's like my staple!!

Diege Wed 03-Apr-13 16:51:10

Hi! Back from harmony test at FMC. Bloods taken and had a scan too - all fine and dr 80% sure it's a girl!!! They've classed me at 11 weeks today,slightly further ahead AGAIN!. I am feeling a bit of a fraud being on Nov thread now blush Re: the sex, they look at the 'angles' of the (non-existent) genitalia and make a guess, but don't bother asking if you're having an NHS scan as they don't look at 12 wks grin It's something the researchers at the centre have been studying and not widely done. Just glad for the reassuring scan,and fingers crossed all will be well at 12 weeks when I have the nuchal.
Oh and saundy/haverina smoked salmon is absolutely fine - the smoking process destroys the parasites that are the cause of any possible problems (from NHS website). My mum managed to put me off smoked salmon when I was tucking in by saying it looked like I was eating a goldfish sandwich... Can only eat now if chopped finely into scrambled egg..

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 17:07:30

Glad everything went well Diege!

We were told at 20 weeks we were having a girl! Thank goodness for the 4d scan later on that told us it was really a boy! After the labour I had I don't think I could have coped with finding out that day grin

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 17:09:24

Woo Diege a girl that's fab - fix you have a preference?! I heard today that big boob increase in pregnancy = a girl, so is that true for you?! Mine still haven't shifted but I am wanting a girl!! Is it bad to say that? I would still love a boy obvs!

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 17:10:56

Fix = did

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Apr-13 17:15:11

No it's not bad to say it because I want a girl too! It's only bad if we are going to treat a girl like a princess and a boy like a slave, like in some cultures sadly. (Obviously the other way round as I can't think of one the prefers girls over boys).

Diege Wed 03-Apr-13 17:19:04

Re: the sex I really don't mind either way as have 3 dds and 2dss already...have always thought another girl would be nice though as think dd3 especially would love it,dd1 and 2 being so close (15mths age difference).
Re: the boobs yes they have got a lot bigger actually! (not hard starting from a AA cup...I'd say a generous C cup now..) Having said that they did with the ds's too!

Theicingontop Wed 03-Apr-13 17:20:30

I've been rather distracted and busy! I will catch up and post grin

Animol Wed 03-Apr-13 17:30:25

Saw my LO at the docs this morning - 1.75cm - he said it was spot on for 8weeks - he said he could see the heart beating but I couldn't really.

I'd love a boy but I'd really really love another girl - would love my dd to have a sister - she's already got 3 brothers! We'll take what comes. My boobs are getting bigger - could be a good sign!

honey86 Wed 03-Apr-13 17:41:36

id like another girl, think that wud complete my family x

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 17:49:51

A few in the girl camp then - but I'm not going to find out!!

I've read that medium to well steak is grand as long as its really hot all the way through. Same with prawns etc. I've happily been eating salads at our local cafe but sadly they make their own mayo so can't have that! You can def still have Stilton too as its a semi hard cheese. Goats cheese is also fine as long as its the one without the rind and is pasteurised.

Think you can go seriously mad on not eating stuff tho - one small amount isn't likely to kill you!

Dinner is stuffed peppers and couscous tonight tho not very hungry as I've just eaten 2 walnut whips shock

Dreamstoreality Wed 03-Apr-13 17:53:30

Back from my scan and not reassured at all. By my dates I should be 8 + 4 but on the scan all they could see was the pregnancy sack and no baby. They have said I might just not as far along as I thought and that Im only about 6 weeks hence the baby will be too small to see. But I know when we dtd and I can't be 6 weeks.

Now have a 2 week wait for another scan to see whether its grown by then or not.

firsttimemummyy Wed 03-Apr-13 17:54:25

It's funny I was so convinced I wanted a girl (I even did the whole girl diet thing (eating a lot of yoghurt and no salt -DH thought I was bonkers!- and timing DTD 3/4 days before ovulation) but now I'm pregnant I find I hand on heart don't mind either way, which I didn't think I'd feel! I think I'd just like a girl at some point as I'm really close to my mum and I'd like to have that relationship with a daughter, but I also find the thought of a little boy really lovely too.

Also I didn't realise you can find out the sex so early, that's amazing!

honey86 Wed 03-Apr-13 17:56:00

omg i love stuffedpeppers smile aint had them for aages x

MissTweed Wed 03-Apr-13 17:57:14

I'm so impressed I had to share.....

M&S long sleeve maternity tops reduced to £5. Bought one online (collected from small m&s food hall which I live near for free) and it is brilliant! Washed well and is lined at the bust area!! These are fab, I'm going to order some more.

Unlike the pack of 3 new look t's. I'm normally a size 10 top (12 now my boobs have grown) and I had to buy size 14. Washed at 40* and they have shrunk so much!! Taking them back. Tempted to replace them with a size 18 to allow for the shrinkage.

SuffolkNWhat Wed 03-Apr-13 17:57:44

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 18:06:27

Oh Dreams you must be so worried, I'm sorry you didn't get better news but everything crossed for two weeks - you never know xx

Diege Wed 03-Apr-13 18:08:17

dreams sorry for the worry the scan must be causing you. I'll be honest, I have been in exactly the same situation as you before and sadly there was no progression in my case. However, I also know of several friends, plus people on MN, who have been reassured 2 weeks later with a bean and heartbeat. This will be a very difficult 2 wks for you, but we are all here for you if you feel like a chat/handhold xx

Dreams all fingers xd for you and the scan

TiredFeet Wed 03-Apr-13 18:26:34

I don't really have a preference, but I think I slightly lean towards wanting another boy, partly as a playmate for ds, partly as it will be cheaper (got all the clothes!) And partly as I have just had so much fun with ds. But I think really I would love a girl just as much, and so probably would ds!

TiredFeet Wed 03-Apr-13 18:28:14

dreams just saw your post, so sorry that you are going to have a very long two weeks! Hopefully at the next scan you will be able to get the reassurance all is well

williaminajetfighter Wed 03-Apr-13 18:29:55

Dreams. Am thinking of you. I have to say that I've had 2 scans in the last few weeks and there was a big difference in what I could see- the earlier scan was v clear, the next far less. Part of it must be down to different equipment, different positioning and possibly the person doing the scan.

I hope your little guy was just hiding and you'll see him/her in a few weeks. Btw if you're still getting pg symptoms that's a good sign.

MissTweed Wed 03-Apr-13 18:32:17

thanks For dreams, thinking of you x

harverina Wed 03-Apr-13 18:36:28

Oh dreams thinking of you thanks

I had my scan at 8+5 last week and the sonographer said it was very hard to see as I have a tilted womb. She did see the baby and heartbeat but said it was very difficult. Hoping you see some progression in 2 weeks - what a long wait for you though hmm

Saundy it's fine to eat prawns and smoked salmon. The Nhs link is good. I was on it earlier checking cheese - web with no2 I forget sometimes what I can/cannot have.

berrybomb Wed 03-Apr-13 18:45:38

Dreams - sorry you didn't quite get the news you were after - fx for your scan in 2 weeks.

I think I'd prefer a girl, DP would prefer a boy, but being our first, we'll both be happy wither way.

MissTweed - I'm getting on the M&S website now - thanks :-)

littlemonkey2013 Wed 03-Apr-13 18:48:14

dreams, that was the thing im dreading. im going for another scan tomorrow and hope i see something. i went for my first last week with my GP saying that i was 7 weeks pregnant (she just went from LMP) then i went for the scan and there was just the little black sac and the doctor said it was more like size of 5 1/2 weeks or 6 weeks (which would fit in with my longer normal cycle)
so going back tomorrow and hoping we see something more and that it is progressing. i would hate to think this throwing up is for nothing.

on the subject of boys or girls, i think i would prefer a girl as i have always wanted a girl first then a boy (i was the younger sister to an older brother and hated it) but then boys can be cute too. i dont think i will mind when it comes down to it but all my cousins and sister in laws have had boys first.

i dont think i could stomach half of the things on the do not eat list, at the moment i want as plain and boring as i can get. ive gone to 3 mugs of coffee when i get up in the morning to none for the last 2 days because just the thought makes me want to run to the toilet

honey86 Wed 03-Apr-13 18:52:52

omg sorry dreams i missed ur post... fingers crossed its ok xxxxx thanks

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 19:15:50

Dreams - sorry you didn't get the news you were hoping for, fingers crossed your next scan shows progression xx

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 19:18:21

I think I'd like a girl, but in the same breath I've had such a great time with DS so far that I's be just as excited about having another boy.

I wasn't too bad sticking to the food guidelines last time, although I was awful sticking to the caffeine guidelines, I'm making a proper effort to stick to those this time because I was ridiculous with DS. Hate caffeine free coke though, it goes flat straight away :/

Dizzy81 Wed 03-Apr-13 19:23:18

Honey take your time ref your ex.

Dreams I'm soo sorry. If you want us to help you through the next few weeks, we are here for you.

And to those craving fruit and salad, I'm with you there! My diets gone from being constant junk to healthy within a few weeks.

Got my midwife appointment tomorrow. It's become all too real.

Lucky13ForBaby Wed 03-Apr-13 19:43:53

dreams just wanted to say I know just how you feel. Had exactly the same happen to me today. Got to go back on the 18th now sad going to be a long few weeks.

MotherOfCleo Wed 03-Apr-13 19:58:42

everything crossed for you dreams.

Oh really saundy mine have grown 3 sizes! I'd love a girl but the OH wants a boy. hmm

Saundy Wed 03-Apr-13 20:01:12

Lucky I'm sorry you're in the same boat I hope it works out for you too.

My DP wants a boy too and if its all in the boobs he may well get his wish!

getoffthecoffeetable Wed 03-Apr-13 20:06:11

dreams and lucky fingers crossed for you both.

EcoHippyMum Wed 03-Apr-13 20:15:43

Dreams I hope it all works out well.
diege where did you get your test done?

I am still having the brown discharge that is now more of a brick colour, this is what happened when I started bleeding at 6 weeks. No cramping still so remaining hopeful and that this is going to be what it's like for a while since I had the scan at 7 weeks and all was fine - just hate this worrying.

Diege Wed 03-Apr-13 20:25:57

EcoHad the harmony at the Fetal Medicine Centre in London x

BenthamFriday Wed 03-Apr-13 20:29:51

Dreams and Lucky - fingers crossed for both of you. Waiting must be so hard. Xx

Saundy - you & One have convinced me sewing machine-wise. Am going to take the plunge!

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 20:33:49

Lucky - keeping my fingers crossed for you too x

EcoHippyMum Wed 03-Apr-13 20:36:53

Wow £750!! If it was £150 I would but can't afford £750 sad

theboob Wed 03-Apr-13 20:49:25

It has taken me ages to catch up !
purple I am so sorry , look after yourself x

For those waiting for another scan , fingers crossed it all turns out ok for you both x

Sickness has gone again and my boobs are out of control ! I've gone from a C to an E in a few.weeks .Still waiting for my scan date , although really I'm not in a rush for anything with this pregnancy , I really know this will be my last so I want it to last .........strange

Diege Wed 03-Apr-13 20:52:19

I can't afford it at that price either Eco grin. Not sure if they are still doing the offer, but I got it for £180 which also includes the nuchal scan which you have 2 weeks later. You have to be between 10 weeks and 10 weeks and 1 day to take advantage of the offer (I was 10 and 4 on my dates, 11 weeks on their scan shock but no-one said anything - technically I should have been charged full whack!). Have a feeling it was only open til end of March but might be worth giving them a call.

Diege Wed 03-Apr-13 20:53:21

Sorry meant to read 'between 10 weeks and 10 weeks and 6 days'!

Frenelder Wed 03-Apr-13 20:57:14

Hi I'm new here too & only just pregnant I think about 6 weeks I have my 1st midwife appointment on 12th April & can't wait.
I'm alway thirsty currently & didn't know it coul be pregnacy related ill mention it to the midwife next week.

SpanishLady Wed 03-Apr-13 21:03:04

Get off - I was induced by the drip after my waters broke 78 hrs prior but I didn't go into labour. It was ok for the first 3 hours and managed on the tens machine then MW decided to up my dose and within about 30 mins I was having contractions one on top of each other. It was like being in the sea and going under a wave and before I could get to my feet and take a breath another wave comes crashing down - totally lost it!

Dream & lucky sorry you are both having such a worrying time

I really don't mind what I have though guess I might choose a girl if I could but then would be easier so to speak to have another boy and maybe nicer for my son. If I get to 20 weeks we are going to find out this time. I think because I was so sure from about 5 months I was having a boy (the belligerence of my baby was so masculine! We would play a song to my bump and dh would put his iPhone on my stomach and the baby could punch or kick it off!) and as I had an emcs I don't feel I need the surprise.

getoffthecoffeetable Wed 03-Apr-13 21:29:37

spanish that sounds awful. Def not like the pessary induction that I had.

Am downing Dandelion and Burdock like it's going out of fashion. Feels like I'm ten again!

Hi and welcome frenelder!

I've my booking in at the hospital on Tuesday - I actually forgot about it being so close! I need to make up my mind about doing a promotion board tho on 15 April. Done no prep and my mind just isn't on it as there's so much else in my brain! Not sure what to do...

We'd both like a girl slightly more than a boy tbh but we will be delighted with a healthy baby of whatever sex!

EcoHippyMum Wed 03-Apr-13 21:39:11

Diege Thanks for that, I shal give them a call tomorrow morning, no harm in trying!

Hi Frenelder, I think a lot of women are thirstier during pregnancy. My main thing at the moment is soup, particularly minestrone! I made my own massive version of it tonight with lots of grains too so hopefully healthier!

harverina Wed 03-Apr-13 21:42:18

I'm honestly don't mind what sex out baby is. We have one girl and would be happy with a boy or a girl. Dh says he has no preference but I wonder if he secretly wants a boy? Who knows he claims not to.

I can feel the heartburn kicking in again. I'm so tired but have got tidying up to do and should really work on my essay for an hour or two. I'm starting to get really really stressed out hmm about it. Have 9 days to do it but have dd's birthday on Friday, family coming on Saturday and dh away next week. In getting so stressed out!!! I could sit and do it now I know I'm just so tired, feeling sick and just don't know if I can start at this time after being at work all day hmm

Sorry to moan, I need to get some perspective.

Frenelder Wed 03-Apr-13 21:51:53

Hi Fairygidmother,
What's a promotion board? Good luck with your appointment hope all goes well.

Thanks for the thought about soup eccoHippyMum I think I'll make a few up this week end for the freezer I just can't get enough liquid at the mo

It's 3 people firing questions at you and deciding if you should get promoted! And it's scaring the crap out of me as its for 2 grades higher so I've not got a great chance!

But if I did manage to scrape it the pay rise would be about £14,000 extra!

Frenelder Wed 03-Apr-13 22:00:27

Haha I thought it was something to do with your hospital appointment - dur! Silly me

EcoHippyMum Wed 03-Apr-13 22:00:50

Wow fairydogmother that's a big pay jump! Go for it!

Frenelder I got some mixed grains and pasta from the local supermarket, was less than £2 and I made about 3 litres! I liked it - a bit too much as I ate it so quickly I e now burned my tongue!!! Feel like I should be talking with my tongue lolling out lol.

riverflow Wed 03-Apr-13 22:16:37

Hi Frenelder I am just over 6 weeks too and also really really thirsty. Welcome. I have first midwife appointment on 17th April and first scan on 15th May.

Just been reading all the early scan chat above, booked myself one for next week, as am now scared that I'm no longer pregnant. (Had MC a few months ago) I can see how I could possibly get carried away with the anxiety of thinking I'm not pregnant anymore. I'm trying to control myself and think an early scan is a way for me to do that. Although as my husband says that will only make me feel better for a short while before I start to panic again. Maybe I just need to get over it! Enjoy it. It's a special time and I should enjoy it! Oh who knows!

I'll talk myself around in circles until I eventually go to bed with another two pints of water! and probably dream about it.

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 22:24:08

Just cried my eyes out at OBEM. Never made me cry until I had DS!

riverflow Wed 03-Apr-13 22:26:26

Anyone taking Pregnacare or Pregnacare Max? My husband (in a bit for brownie points) came home with the more expensive Pregncare Max for me today, which seems like it might be a bit of a marketing ploy as its got most of the same stuff in it as the Pregnacare normal one.

I had a horrible allergic reaction to pregnacare! Just watch there's nothing in any vitamin tablet that you shouldn't have as I'm not allowed iodine and most have that!

I take sanatogen mother to be and they're pretty cheap

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 22:37:23

I've got allergies so I just take folic acid with vitamin d

Forgot to say that melon and pineapple really helped me when I was mega thirsty. Cranberry juice too. The fruit seemed to help more than just water for some reason.

I've been a greedy pig today - 2 walnut whips, a hot cross bun and a massive cheese and lettuce baguette. O and 2 caramel bunnies confused


harverina Wed 03-Apr-13 23:11:31

I take pregnacare original - it was on a 3 for 2 on boots so it was fairly good value at the time. Up until I found out I was pregnant I just used a cheap asda folic acid but we need vitamin d too so that's why I changed.

Just ate 4 baby bels and they too rarely helped my heartburn and nausea but can feel it coming back. Is it possible that when I am more tired my other symptoms will be worse? I had great sleeps at the weekend And start of week and felt great. Nausea was barely there. It's back with a bang and have has hardly any sleep past 2 nights?

Welcome fren!

Fairy try and go for the promotion, no harm is there? And you just might get it! If it was hardly any money is say don't bother but it's a fair amount - if your successful will you also be entitled to better mat pay? I work for a local authority so my may pay is fairly good - 6 weeks at 90% then 33 weeks at 50%. I increased my hours last year partly because we wanted to buy a bigger house and partly because I knew it would help loads when I stop for mat leave.

louby86 Wed 03-Apr-13 23:49:42

Harv - last time my sickness was loads worse if I was tired or had a late night. I'm pretty sure I'm feeling better this time because I do a job share rather than the 50 hours a week I was doing before with a massive commute. I think it's how our body tells us to slow down a bit, if we get the chance to that is smile

Haverina Aren't all local authority schemes the same.I get 11 weeks 90% then 13 at 50 plus SMP then just SMP. I was doing crafty sums today whilst trying to make sure nobody else could see what intranet page I had open. I won't have to go back full time until July 2014 based on accrued leave and KIT days.

Weeks are going so slow. I got my bfp at 3w4d and now it feels like forever until we can tell people. I am so excited to tell my grandmother and DPs grandpa. I bet they both cry, they're 86 and 93! My mum is planning baby gates for her house already.

I don't care if we have a boy or girl. Although a girl will mean we avoid having to tell people that no, we will not be circumscising our son. DP really wishes he hadn't been done and I'm not Jewish so we both don't see any need to do it. DP can explain why there isn't a bris though!

DP has accepted manflu isn't deadly although I have had hourly updates on snot and how is mouth feels weird. I shall remind him of all this when I'm in labour.grin

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 04:24:30

fairy that's is a lot of pay rise! No wonder you are anxious about it when so much is at stake,

I take pregnacare original. Ocado does 3 for 2 as well. I found boots and them have the promotions at different times, so I buy from whoever have the discount atm.

I wish I have such good maternity pay. Only 18 weeks full pay then SMP. It would be so great to be on 50% till 39 weeks. But I don't work for a local authority, oh well.

And I am sure nausea is linked to tiredness. I always feel worse towards the end of the work day. I'm just so unproductive lately I am starting to feel guilty. And I hate this waking up at the middle of the night too. Seriously not helping. I went to bed at 9.30 last night because I slept so badly the night before. I bet I won't last till 10 tonight again. Us pregnant women are such a joy to be with aren't we?

harverina Thu 04-Apr-13 06:55:12

Msfan now that you have said that....I shall double check today. I'm sure I got 33 weeks at half pay last time but thinking that's very generous so perhaps not! Will let you know/ so you work for an LA too? I am in Scotland.

MotherOfCleo Thu 04-Apr-13 07:33:14

My company has no maternity package so I have to go buy the government smp rules......basically I will get bugger all maternity pay sad

I have my booking in appointment this morning and my scan this evening, pleased and scared! Oh and Ive woken up feeling horribly sick! Anyone else have a snotty nose? Ive had mine for weeks now, no cold just snuffles confused

MotherOfCleo Thu 04-Apr-13 07:38:52

Just checked and I get 90% for a whopping 6 weeks, then down to £135 a week! Sucks big time! You ladies with good maternity are so lucky! confused

getoffthecoffeetable Thu 04-Apr-13 07:43:41

cleo I'm in the same boat as you if it makes you feel any better, only smp for me too. It's a pain but if you put some money away now it does tend to last, I found I didn't actually spend that much when I was on maternity last time.
I've had snuffles too, it's part of the pregnancy with me, it just gets steadily worse!
Good luck with your booking in and scan.
I've woken up feeling sick this morning and forced myself to have some toast, I do feel a bit better now I've eaten.
DH has tidied away my bands and can't remember where they are. Am less than amused and if I still feel ill later, I'll nip out and get another pair at lunchtime!
Had the weirdest dream last night that I was going on holiday to the jungle and I hadn't told anyone I was pregnant. I then had to pack while the taxi waited outside and I only had ten mins to do it in. Could only find scrappy inappropriate tops. I was really stressed when I woke up!

MissTweed Thu 04-Apr-13 07:46:14

Morning ladies.. Is it possible that I felt my baby move last night?? I'm 11w exactly today and last night I was lying on my side/front so my belly was swished and I felt something that felt like something wriggling inside me. Could this have been baby or is it far too early??

Ariel21 Thu 04-Apr-13 07:52:16

I'm self employed so it's MA for me, that's if I get my NI contributions up to date (whoops). It's a pain, I almost considered getting a full time job last year just for the benefits...

Feeling OK this week, my tummy has a definite bulge to it although I suspect that's just bloating. Couldn't tolerate my skinny jeans yesterday. Cow & Gate app tells me I'm into week 7?

I also had the faintest brownish spotting when I wiped, hopefully this is nothing to worry about. Will keep an eye on it.

How's everyone today, especially those of you who are 10-12 weeks! You must really be feeling it now!

Saundy Thu 04-Apr-13 08:00:03

Welcome Fren & congrats!

Wow D&B GetOff thats a blast from the past, make sure you get some ice cream in there!

Good choice with the sewing machine BF!

I think my maternity is average, 12 weeks at full pay, then 6 at 50% & then SMP. Back to work today, dreading it.

Had quite a rough night with my tummy feeling uncomfortable no matter how I lay, which makes no sense considering I have no bump ! Feeling the opposite of refreshed!

MotherOfCleo Thu 04-Apr-13 08:07:33

glad im not alone get, this snuffly nose is driving me mad. blush

BoyMeetsWorld Thu 04-Apr-13 08:28:09

V jealous of people with good maternity packages...my company is the standard 6 weeks at 90% then SMP. Shocking really but it's a v patriarchal company...

Diege Thu 04-Apr-13 08:34:07

Lucky with my package too (uni lecturer), 6 wks full pay, 6 at 90%, but then 50% with smp on top. I will unfortunately have to return after 12 weeks as this was an unplanned pregnancy and not feasible financially to take any more time off sad. Am able to add holidays on end though, plus have 10 KIP days that I can use, so may be able to eek it out a little.

honey86 Thu 04-Apr-13 08:49:31

think the movements thing depends on how many youve had already... with ur first its meant to be 16-20 weeks but subsequent babies can be earlier... ill be 10 weeks soon, cant feel anything yet although when i lie on my back i can feel the weight of my uterus... kinda like i grapefruit resting on my tummy feeling x

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 09:04:53

MotherOfCleo it's very very hard to live on the SMP (I mean the £135 a week part). We didn't have savings last time since we just bought our house. I only took 7 months. But it's nothing I could do. This time round, we have already started saving. I'm hoping to go back in September, which should be about 10/11mo, isn't it? Not many people I know take the full 12mo, most take 39 weeks + annual leave only. The last three months on no pay is even harder!

Diege must be very tough to take only 4 months. I feel for you already.

Diege Thu 04-Apr-13 09:13:39

Just thought, the 4mths leave assumes I work up to labour day, which just isn't going to happen...Have 2.5 hr commute each way to work so by 34 weeks or so I'm totally done in. Will have to think if I can come up with a creative solution and make life a little easier!
Re movements I've felt them progressively earlier with each baby - felt a few around 8ks, then also over last few days (11 wks). baby one felt at 19 wks, baby 2 15 wks, baby 3 12 weeks, baby 4 and 5 8 wks...

Saundy Thu 04-Apr-13 09:23:22

Is there a certain date that you must start mat leave by before your due date? I'm only taking 5 months so was planning on saving this years holidays to take me up to my due date if I can manage that.

Diege Thu 04-Apr-13 09:31:24

It can start on the day you give birth if you like saundy x

Diege Thu 04-Apr-13 09:32:40

Not that I'd necessarily recommend that !! although I have a friend it happened to when baby came early. She was happy in hindsight grin

Theicingontop Thu 04-Apr-13 09:32:40

Yeah but colleagues tend to watch your every move!

I had loads of fun getting 'twinges' :')

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 09:32:55

Saundy you have to start your maternity leave when the baby is born. As it was explained to me last time from HR, if you say take annual leave, and then start maternity leave on your EDD, but your baby arrives on week 38, they will have to move your maternity leave start day by 2 weeks. In effect, you lose your annual leave. I'm not sure how it works in practice other than by you being honest. They couldn't find out your baby was born before your EDD can they?

I'm planning to start on week 37, given DD came at 37+5 last time. I think I still have around 3 weeks of annual leave, so I'll be off work from week 34. (I stopped at week 37 last time, but since I went back in the same holiday year, I didn't have to use up my annual leave).

Saundy Thu 04-Apr-13 10:10:31

Haha love that Icing.

I think work would turn a blind eye as long as it wasn't something they could get in trouble for should I go early.

I'm discovering that me & DP have quite different attitudes to preparing for baby. I'm not even that concerned about the nursery being ready as its a while before they're in there but he's in a blind panic that you have to have EVERYTHING even stuff you may never use. Everything has to be new as well. We're opposite extremes so should be interesting!

Lozcat86 Thu 04-Apr-13 10:12:06

wow i go away from here for a few days and we're 13 pages in to a new thread! Havent had time to come on here for the last few days as ive been working a lot.
8+3 today and feel nauseous all day long pretty much which is not great, dont really fancy eating anything so im eating for the sake of it and that helps the feeling of sickness for a while. Have got a little bump beginning which is bigger in the evening. Starting to relax a little now and worry a little less smile looking forward to my scan on May 7th, still feels ages away though!

JBrd Thu 04-Apr-13 10:13:19

Oh, yes, there are such differences in the maternity packages... I am about to hand in my notice, and I keep thinking, what the hell am I doing? I currently work for the university, they have a great maternity package - 18 weeks of full pay, then 21 SMP. In my new job, all I will get is MA, as I won't have been there long enough for qualify for their (very measly) maternity package. Hmph. Not sure how we will manage, I think it will boil down of reducing DS's childcare hours, which I am loathe to do. Not only because it does him a world of good, but also because it gives me a much-needed break! We'll have to see...
I had MA only last time as well, but no childcare costs, which was doable.

I'm thinking of working until week 35-36, depending on how much annual leave I will be able to take. And only 9 months off this time... Probably won't be able to do any longer financially, depending on what state my savings will be in by then confused

Diege 12 weeks leave, that is tough... Mind you, in the US, they don't get even that!

Finally some symptoms have started to kick in - I'm getting a lot of dizzy spells at the moment, anybody else get that? And feeling very 'bleurgh' on and off in the last few days, without actually being sick, though. I need to be really careful in the gym, when getting up from the floor etc. at the moment.

Had my haematology consultant appointment yesterday, and now have my heparin prescription, phew! One worry less.
Still waiting for the mw to get in touch for the booking appointment, getting a bit impatient - it's meant to be done here by 8 weeks, I'm 6+4 now...

louby86 Thu 04-Apr-13 10:17:02

Saundy - you can do that but like what's already been said, you have to take maternity leave from the day the baby arrives because of the law that states you are not allowed to work for the first two weeks from having a baby. I'm a HR manager so what we do if a baby comes early and people have holiday remaining is just give them the money for the holiday at the end of their maternity leave/holiday year, whichever comes first.

I get the standard 6 weeks full pay then SMP which is rubbish considering the company I work for but oh well!

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 10:18:36

JBrd how many hours is your son doing at nursery/cm? Surely most people will have to reduce childcare hours, unless they are taking a very short leave? I just can't see how I could fork out £45 a day when I hardly have income! I'm planning on leaving DD in full time for the first month, then reduce to 2 days a week. And that's only if work will continue to pay for the childcare vouchers. If they pull a nasty and pay for that, I think I'll have to go down to 1 day a week, or 2 half days. She loves going to nursery, and I think it'll be good for me too.

i think i get 5 months full and 4 months half pay and then nothing if i want to take the extra 3 months

can i claim anything else on top of half pay tho?

MummaPanda Thu 04-Apr-13 10:23:39

I'm on MA now as my job wouldn't pay me maternity leave, and now that I'm pg again will have to also take the 3months unpaid then go straight into another maternity leave on MA. I really hope its possible to do that lol. But anyway MA is doable, even though I was main earner before as dh is self employed and his work isn't constant / reliable.

getoffthecoffeetable Thu 04-Apr-13 10:41:54

DS starts pre school in September so am going to take holiday then maternity leave, otherwise we'd just be putting him in with a childminder that he doesn't know for a month or two, I don't want to unsettle him anymore than he will be already with leaving his nursery (which he loves) to go to a new pre school and then top it all off with a new baby brother or sister. Feel quite sorry for the poor mite!
He'll love having a sibling though when s/he gets old enough to play with him.

MotherOfCleo Thu 04-Apr-13 10:42:03

All booked in, blood taken, pee tested. She said I have a bmi of 26 which I don't believe as I have put on about 7/8lb already and must be flagging on the system as a chubber!

We already save around £300 a month one and also have some savings due to mature in the summer which should help us upgrade the car and buy a few bits, although the savings were initally for a new kitchen which I doubt we will get now. I am hoping to put a bit more away though and I know my parents will go overboard buying us things. I'll be loosing over 1200 a month when I'm on SMP so I hope if I can save around £2k I will be able to at least top up the £135 a week to £200.

good stuff mother

I've no idea how i'll save any money at all as we've a wedding to pay for plus i literally use all my salary every month. i'm trying to sort something out for my horse as if i didnt have to pay livery i'd save about £220 a month from that alone

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 10:44:31

mummapanda someone told me you have to be earning something to get MA. Would SMP count as earnings?

berrybomb Thu 04-Apr-13 11:21:13

Fairy - good luck with your promotion board, I'm sure you'll nail it.

Saundy - hope your first day back at work isn't too stressful for you!

My maternity package is pretty good - 6 weeks at full pay, then 20 weeks at half pay, then down to SMP. I'm not sure whether to go back after 6 or 9 months, DP thinks we can afford 9, but I'm not so sure. I'll also have about 3 weeks of holiday to use either side of that.

williaminajetfighter Thu 04-Apr-13 13:13:11

I'm like berry I think... 26 weeks full pay. I'll probably go back after 9 months then be broke for 4 years paying for childcare! From the website:

26 weeks' full pay (inclusive of any statutory maternity pay which is due); followed by

13 weeks' statutory maternity pay (if a woman does not meet all the statutory qualification rules for statutory maternity pay, she will only receive pay for the first 26 weeks of maternity leave); followed by

13 weeks' unpaid leave

Total = 52 weeks' leave

williaminajetfighter Thu 04-Apr-13 13:15:57

Sorry berry said 20 weeks half pay. Guess I am very lucky as 6 months full pay is quite incredible.

Time to get pregnant again!!

artyone Thu 04-Apr-13 13:18:16

Hello everyone

Maternity pay at my company is pretty good, however I've only just started (accepted offer days before I found out I was pg), so I won't be entitled to it :S. I might be able to get MA though, but I'd have to be there for 13 weeks and its a 12 week contract with possibility to renew so I have to hope they'll renew it knowing i'm pg. We'll see eh? Luckily my OH has a good job so we should manage.

Had my booking in yesterday, midwife was lovely and blood test went well despite my fears. My local hospital has a brilliant reputation too do it looks like i'm booked in to a good place.

So all is good. I just wish I wasn't suffering so much with Morning Sickness. Bleeeuugh.

ive a few weird feelings low down - def something changing a bit down there! 9+3 today

getoffthecoffeetable Thu 04-Apr-13 13:56:37

fairy are your weird feelings tummy related?
I'm 9+5 and my abdomen feels weird. It's not painful, more like I can feel things stretching and churning!
Am very ready for a nap!

yea its like someone poking from inside! but not sore - just odd

i'm counting the minutes until i finish work at 3....

getoffthecoffeetable Thu 04-Apr-13 14:10:18

Thanks fairy good to know I'm not the only one feeling it.
My bump's looking quite large now that I've had my lunch. Weird how the bloat increases so much after eating!

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 14:11:26

williamina 6 months full pay is simply amazing! May I ask what sector are you in?

i'm feeling left out of the bump monitoring as i havent got anything!

well a bit of a wibbly belly but thats toffee crisps lol

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 14:26:43

fairy bump monitoring? I'm so bloated I'm wearing my maternity work trousers today sad. I'm only 10 weeks ffs.

Just meant I haven't got anything whereas some people seem to have popped out already lol

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 15:41:09

fairy is this your first? Supposedly you show much earlier for subsequent pregnancies. Because we are all loosened and widened after a birth grin

It's my 2nd pregnancy but first baby if you understand!

My friend was showing at 8 weeks with her first and that made clothes a nightmare for nearly the whole time!

honey86 Thu 04-Apr-13 16:05:49

oh my days i just got a second bouquet from another florist at my door blush the tag had a pic of a wilted dandelion on it saying im sorry i love you.

im struggling to stay angry confusedblush but im keeping my head screwed on atm n not be won over just by freakin gorgeous flowers hmm

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 16:07:17

fairy you should be glad you aren't like a whale yet grin

Honey I love flowers but I love a rational, adult male as my partner more!

If he put a bit more effort into talking to you it might help more than flowers!

But not trying to be mean so please don't think I am!

SuffolkNWhat Thu 04-Apr-13 16:14:12

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SuffolkNWhat Thu 04-Apr-13 16:16:43

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Wonder will I get SMP on top of half pay? Would be fab if I did! But I won't hold out hope lol

berrybomb Thu 04-Apr-13 16:28:52

fairy - I don't get SMP on top of half pay. Ours states the SMP will be 'topped up' to half pay.....

I bet I probably won't get the two either. O well!

My appetite has returned! Had to have a cheese, cucumber and lettuce baguette there as I was starving!

Saundy Thu 04-Apr-13 16:36:13

Mine just says 12 weeks full pay & 6 weeks half pay, this is the minimum entitlement guaranteed, further arrangements may be negotiated.

So does that mean SMP too or that's it?

getoffthecoffeetable Thu 04-Apr-13 16:45:38

Honey - it might be a good idea to meet up and talk maybe? He's obviously realised he's in the wrong and wants to apologise. It's worth listening to what he has to say at least.
It must be a stressful time for the dad too - not excusing his behaviour at all though.

williaminajetfighter Thu 04-Apr-13 16:45:50

onelittleToddler - I work for Oxford University. But it does mean living in stinky, boring, overpriced, hard-to-get around, conservative Oxford. (As you can see I am lovin' living here).

I said the organization specifically, not to out myself, because I've worked for other Universities and the Mat leave is not all the same. Ditto government organizations and NGOs.

williaminajetfighter Thu 04-Apr-13 16:46:49

I moved down from Scotland but hoping I can make close friendships with some of the Scottish-based people on the thread (hi Harverina) and move in with them!

williaminajetfighter Thu 04-Apr-13 16:49:49

and Saundy you should be able to get SMP on top of what your company provides.

berrybomb Thu 04-Apr-13 16:51:15

Oh no, people at work have started to guess!!

My colleague (and friend) just asked outright if I was pregnant! Eeeek.

My boss knows because I had to have some time off and didn't want to lie, but there's no way she would have told anyone, she's just plain guessed. It's probably because I've stopped going on the after work drinks every Friday!!

honey86 Thu 04-Apr-13 16:53:52

its cool fairy, your on my wavelength smile

were meeting up for the booking appt tomorrow, but im still going to want my space for a while yet.

got my maternity note pack through the post today x

Saundy Thu 04-Apr-13 17:02:31

Oh no Berry what did you say?!

It's a matter of time for me, I'd been sick twice before I'd even turned my computer on so it won't take a genius.

I hope so Will I suppose it's a while before we need to have that talk.

Good luck Honey maybe meet him first & clear the air so you can just enjoy the appt?

I'm not showing yet but do go into super bloat over drive after eating just the smallest thing which makes me really nervous re weight gain.

Is anyone going to any aquanatal type stuff yet?!

Theicingontop Thu 04-Apr-13 17:07:57

So I'm all booked in properly, midwife took my blood pressure and stole my blood, weighed me and filled out my maternity NHS exemption form. All very straightforward.

Can I ask who's planning to get the whooping cough vaccine?

The posters of the tiny babies breastfeeding on the wall in her office made me melt. I'm going to have another one of those squishy little poo machines!!

We don't have any aquanatal classes her Saundy sad, so I'm just going to make do with a swim once a week while OH plays with DS in the baby pool grin

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 17:10:32

I'll be getting the whooping cough jab, if it's still offered later this year. I had the flu jab last time. I've already had one this year, so I guess we won't be offered another flu jab? They usually do it sep/oct time isn't it?

I do waterbabies with DD. Does that count? grin

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 17:13:00

Btw, I did antenatal yoga last time, but not until really late? I think third trimester. They are generally not very active and I'm not that into yoga/pilates type of exercise normally. I prefer more energetic ones (like zumba). I might look into them again when I'm less mobile. I found the antenatal yoga really useful re preparing me for the birth. I used the breathing and visualisation in my labour.

Animol Thu 04-Apr-13 18:08:40

Felt so well today I wondered if I was still pregnant - then went shopping and got so knackered I realised I am!
Ever since the last DC I've looked about 4 months pretty much permanently and any bump I've got now is definitely not LO.
Saw my doc yesterday and he said any exercise is good as long as you take it easy - not the time to 'go for the burn' etc.
I had whooping cough when I was a tiny baby - too young for the jab - was hell for my parents but I'm still here and hopefully immune.

getoffthecoffeetable Thu 04-Apr-13 18:32:44

animol I had whooping cough when I was little too, I asked midwife if that made me immune but she says it doesn't and that it doesn't make you immune.

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 18:42:54

The whooping cough jab is given at last pregnancy so we can pass the immunity to the newborn. Otherwise they don't get it until 2mo when they get their first jab. The reason the NHS is stepping up with the immunisation of babies is because there is an epidemic happening at the moment. I wouldn't want to risk it on my newborn.

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 18:45:20

I don't know if you are already immune whether you will pass it on the child. Also immunity does decrease with time. For example tetanus I remember you have to get boosters. But most adults don't have problems with these diseases. It's the vulnerable that suffers, the young, the elderly and the sick. Just look at how many babies die in the third world sad

DittyRatt Thu 04-Apr-13 19:19:42

Evening everyone. Welcome to the newbies.

So sorry to hear of those with bad news. Hope your all okay.

Re: gender; I am going to find out the sex of the baby but I don't mind either way, I am planning on having a few more babies.

Re: maternity pay; I get 24wks at 90% then 24wks at 50% or SMP depending on which is higher, then you can also take an extra 12wks no pay. But you have to take a minimum of 24wks.

I have my booking in appointment tomorrow, was supposed to have it today but got a call from the midwife this morning asking to reschedule.


Dizzy81 Thu 04-Apr-13 19:30:46

Had my booking in appointment today, straight forward and paperwork exercise..

Got to go to s diff hospital to have bloods taken - as this is my back up hospital and whilst falls under mt local pct it still wants me to go there for bloods and scans.

Animol Thu 04-Apr-13 19:46:43

Hello getoffthetable oh! Thanks for that - i'd better look into it.

jen252 Thu 04-Apr-13 19:50:39

Been a hectic week (8 weeks tomorrow!)... had booking in on Tuesday, had an epic battle getting my anti-sickness prescription sorted on Wednesday (midwife left a note for GPs, who ignored it, I got an attitude from receptionists when I called about it, finally spoke to the GP who was apologetic and wrote it up, then when dh went to pick it up, they made him wait so long he had to drive all over the place to find a pharmacy that was still open), and now waiting for it to take effect.

Starting to tell a few more people, which has been kinda fun. Still hard to really enjoy it all when I'm feeling so ragged from the ms, though.

jen252 Thu 04-Apr-13 19:53:52

Oh, and if things keep up, I'm going to need to get a pair of wheelbarrows for my boobs. They started off stupidly big, and getting ridiculous now.

TiredFeet Thu 04-Apr-13 20:07:14

Well after moaning about its absence, the sickness has finally arrived!! Feel bad now for moaning, you lot with sickness must have wanted to hit me!

Made it in to work today luckily and told my boss the news, in case I need to take time off like last time, also did as much tidying up of loose ends as possible, in case people need to take over my files. Hopefully I will be able to struggle on this time, but I would rather feel prepared.

Need to check what our maternity pay is, I work for a local authority but I don't think its a particularly generous package. (But they are great about flexible working so I will forgive them!)

stuffthenonsense Thu 04-Apr-13 20:07:39

I normally do yoga in pregnancy, starting at 14 weeks but the class is an awkward time so I may not manage it these time.
My 'bump' is big, I'd lost six stone and my tummy was almost flat (after 5 big babies it never will be without surgery) and I have gained about 6cm on my waist.
I will not be having any vaccinations in pregnancy as whilst the government are pushing them they have not been tested on pregnant women, and never will be as it is unethical. Breast milk boosts babies immune systems, regardless of whether mum has immunity to whooping cough/flu or not, they just gain greater immunity for all diseases and are less likely to contract disease.

I'd thought of yoga too but I can't afford to join a gym and everywhere that seems to offer it wants a subscription. I'll keep looking tho.

I have the worst immune system ever! I get the flu jab every year anyway so that's done and will wait to see what else they want to discuss having.

Really have to get a hold on eating tho as my appetite has returned with a vengeance!

MotherOfCleo Thu 04-Apr-13 21:34:26

Yay scan was fab! measured 9 weeks exactly, bean wasnt moving around but saw and heard the heart beating away grin also got 6 pictures for free. Shame it looks like a blob hmm You could see the shape of the head and nose though, body was a bit blobby as it wasnt moving and was at a funny angle. So nice to know therw is actually something in their! grin

Theicingontop Thu 04-Apr-13 21:39:52

I polished off five bags of cheese and onion walker's crisps and a whole packet of haribo today, fairydogmother. Those three pounds I've gained will be thirty if I carry on! To be fair though I have been craving those crisps for a week. oh what? that's no excuse? damn

I will be saying no to the vaccines too, stuff. I asked the midwife about the mercury levels in them, but she said they've taken the mercury out in order for them to be safe for pregnant women. I haven't looked into that yet, but if it was true I'd still feel uneasy about it :/

But then I am a massive conspiracy nut with an OFRS blush

Fab news mother! We couldn't actually see much apart from a blob!

Lol icing I've had an extra sandwich after lunch plus a chocolate steamed pudding and a cookie blush

TiredFeet Thu 04-Apr-13 21:58:11

fairy try looking to see if there are nct ante natal yoga classes near you? I wanted to go in my last pregnancy but couldn't get to them, but might try this time.

wonderful motherofcleo smile

all I can eat is toast and crisps now envy envy envy. new colleague started at work today and think she thinks I have a very weird diet as ate about 3 packets at work today! worried she will be annoyed by the constant munching, but its that or vomit envy

I am 7+1 now and still not had date for booking in with midwife. bit worried doctor I saw has messed it up! it seemed like it was her first day in the job...hmm. when did / will most of you have booking in? I thought it was normally at about 8 weeks, but that would be next week! do you think they would be annoyed if I ring and check?

riverflow Thu 04-Apr-13 22:00:01

Good to read what everyone elses maternity packages are mine averages at 75% for 6 months then SMP. Seems relatively average/good.

We have just done some sums and worked out that with the tax differences, working full time (plus full time nursery fees) and part time (plus part time nursery fees) is only gives me an extra £130 per month. Worth thinking about. DH is going to input it all into our magic spread sheet tomorrow to see if 6/9/12 months maternity leave is possible.

ps I am in Edinburgh too. (although from Norn Irn...said with a Norn Irn accent!).

riverflow Thu 04-Apr-13 22:02:53

Also really looking forward to get going to the ante-natal yoga, rang around a couple of classes, no one will have me till I'm 12 weeks. Will have tokeep running then then, if I can manage to get myself out in the evening....although much easier with the lovely bright evenings.

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Apr-13 22:06:10

tiredfeet it is 8 weeks for me but I don't think it is standard across all PCT. the midwife booking in is my first appointment re pregnancy. We don't see a GP first. As in we book an appointment at the surgery reception for a midwife directly.

riverflow Thu 04-Apr-13 22:06:50

theicingontop feeling your week long lust for crisps. I am definately getting a big cheese pizza tomorrow night.

riverflow Thu 04-Apr-13 22:11:22

Tiredfeet if you happen to be in Edinburgh I can give you the number of the Midwife centre. I just booked in my booking and scan myself with them about 10 min after I went to GP on week 5. I had specific dates that I needed the appointments to fit in around due to work and holidays so she advised me just to ring myself. I have my booking at 8 weeks and scan at 12 although I have read that booking can be between 8 - 10 weeks.

Saundy Thu 04-Apr-13 22:13:43

Fairy try your local council website, they should have local classes that require no membership.

Tired it's normally week 8-10 but just call, what's the worst they can say.

Is anybody else uncomfortable lay on their backs? I usually like to sleep on my back but it feels like something's not sitting right now - but I have no bump!! Am 9 weeks tmr. It makes no sense.

SuffolkNWhat Thu 04-Apr-13 22:29:50

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honey86 Thu 04-Apr-13 22:43:34

tired ring them up, i didnt hear for aages , i rang them tues and they said my appts fri and it mustve got lost in the post. i finally got it through today blush and the appts tomorrow.

i know a woman whos daughter had whooping cough and she sent her to school angry some ppl are so selfish, stick their kids in school with a contagious infection that could harm pregnant women or babies just for the sake of gettin peace n quiet.

dd's chickenpox has all crusted over finally and are vanishing now.. thank phuk thats over, cos my son only had it mild and hes had it twice so far hmm x

harverina Fri 05-Apr-13 00:12:39

Evening everyone, didn't get a chance to look at my mat policy in work today but dh thinks I was 6 weeks at 90% and 33 weeks at 50% too, so fairly good. i have lots of holidays still to take this year too and next years holidays to an extent. Trying not to take too many of this years before going off although will take 2 weeks in the summer to spend with dd grin

Had the worst day at work today. So stressful and feel a bit overwhelmed by my workload at the moment hmm of course my boss doesn't know I'm pregnant which won't be helping. I didn't really want to tell him before 12 week scan but may have to just to let him know that I am struggling a bit with work, sickness, tiredness and uni all on top of being a a mummy already.

Off tomorrow as it is dds 3rd birthday gringrin so spending the day with her.

Dh home tonight so hoping for a decent deep sleep after hardly sleeping for 2 days. Feel really nauseous and dizzy tonight it just be linked to sleep deprivation!

Honey agree it might be a good plan to meet before the appointment to clear the air a bit? Although that might be hard of you don't want to speak with him, which is understandable.

Suffolk I have a bump too but can't see it yet with the fat on my tummy. Maas speaking to a friend today and she wore her normal jeans until well over the 20 week mark first time - second time round she couldn't button her jeans by the 12 week scan and her clothiers were right before that so it's probably fairly common 2nd or more time round. I just don't have motivation to look in shops for decent stuff to wear bit know I need to soon. I am usually a shopaholic!!!

EcoHippyMum Fri 05-Apr-13 06:37:43

I'm already not fitting into clothes and I do have a bump already, probably mostly bloatedness, but I think everything has shifted up. When I had my scan at seven weeks they were pressing right over my bladder (not the most comfortable thing in the world) and could see it fine. But this is my fifth pregnancy (4th baby if it stays put). I am 9 weeks today!

getoffthecoffeetable Fri 05-Apr-13 06:58:17

Morning all.
Good luck with meeting up with DP today honey and good luck to all of you having booking in and scans today.
Didn't sleep very well last night, kept getting weird fluttery feelings in my tummy. Very strange.
Am going to have to get DH to go into the loft tomorrow to get my maternity clothes out. Especially my belly bands.

getoffthecoffeetable Fri 05-Apr-13 06:58:52

harv enjoy DD's birthday today.

Dizzy81 Fri 05-Apr-13 07:28:11

Good luck today honey.

ecohippymum we're due date buddies.

I'm 9 weeks today and constantly farting, shock bloated,, feeling sick when I o to bed and instantly sleepy. Works doing my head in, I'm in the same boat as you harvernia with workloads! Hope your dd has a lovely birthday.

EcoHippyMum Fri 05-Apr-13 07:37:07

dizzy yay smile. I too am getting lots of wind, have had a constant niggle on my right hand side for the last couple of hours after turning to quick in bed with round ligament stretch ... Now would like the resulting niggle to bugger off! Woke at 2:30 am with heart burn, and boobs doing weird sharp tingly pains. Went back to sleep, awake again at 4:30 needing a wee, then again at 5:30 after the fast turn. I too get tired very fast but finding it increasingly difficult to sleep for long periods! Not great when I have to drive 175 miles back home today!

Dizzy81 Fri 05-Apr-13 08:18:52

Oh no poor you, eco you poor thing. Take it steady driving home.

I'm fine for a few days and then boom the symptoms hit me big time. I'm making myself go out for short walks, to get some fresh air and more importantly exercise.

I'm hoping I get a letter about my 12 week scan date in the next week. Even though I've seen jelly beam and it was spot on with size etc, I want o know it's ok and growing as it should.

BoyMeetsWorld Fri 05-Apr-13 08:25:39

Suffolk - does that mean it would be worth quickly joining the childcare voucher scheme now before work know I'm pg?

I'm in England today with work - 2 flights plus driving kills me! Hoping the day goes quickly and I get home to bed zzzz

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 05-Apr-13 09:07:13

BoyMeetsWorld are you in the public sector? Or private? And do you already have children. You can only join if you have a child. Technically, they are not allowed to kick you off the scheme during maternity, and also not allowed to deduct from SMP. But many private companies don't play nice. They have special rules around their childcare voucher schemes that make you leave on maternity. Or for small companies, they fake ignorance and just don't pay. I can't see the public sector doing scmmy things like this. I'm hoping my vouchers will be paid for during my leave because that's how I am going to keep DD in the nursery part time. I can't afford it otherwise.

retroelle Fri 05-Apr-13 09:19:05

Just popping in to say how much I love this blog vagendamag.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/styling-out-your-pregnancy-grazia-way.html?m=1 and thought some of you might enjoy it too.

Dreamstoreality Fri 05-Apr-13 09:19:37

Just wanted to say bye and goodluck to you all. Didn't have to wait 2 weeks for the scan after all and miscarried last night.

Wishing you all happy and healthy and sticky beans xx

louby86 Fri 05-Apr-13 09:24:39

So sorry to hear that, Dreams. Take care of yourself xx

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 05-Apr-13 09:26:40

dreams sorry to hear that. Take care and good luck when you feel ready to try again.

Saundy Fri 05-Apr-13 09:41:26

Dreams I'm really sorry it didn't work out this time, thinking of you xx

Best wishes to you dreams x

SuffolkNWhat Fri 05-Apr-13 09:42:35

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getoffthecoffeetable Fri 05-Apr-13 09:47:51

Oh dreams so sorry to hear you news. Sorry for your loss and good luck for the future with your family

SpanishLady Fri 05-Apr-13 09:57:19

im am so sorry dreams - please take care

louby86 Fri 05-Apr-13 09:58:47

I wasn't allowed to start getting child care vouchers until I returned from maternity leave and still not entirely sure what will happen when I go on maternity leave again :/

williaminajetfighter Fri 05-Apr-13 10:00:02

oh shoot dreams - what crappy news. It is so depressing to see people leaving this thread. I do hope you try again soon.

Diege Fri 05-Apr-13 10:15:31

Sorry to hear your news dreams; I had been wondering how things were going. Take care xxx

Dreamstoreality Fri 05-Apr-13 10:19:05

Thanks everyone.

This was my 3rd miscarriage so will hopefully be having some investigations now. Have to wait until everything settles down first so at least 6 weeks before the blood tests and then repeated bloods a couple of months after that. But will be trying again ASAP

williaminajetfighter Fri 05-Apr-13 10:46:19

Dreams I was like you and had 3 mcs. It was really useful getting the investigations (even though it didnt show anything particularly wrong... just my age (am 43 - eggs tired)!)

But if you do get pg again, and I'm sure you will very soon, because of your recurrent mc you will be monitored really closely, scans every few weeks and a lot of care. I hope you get there. x

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 05-Apr-13 10:53:56

SuffolkNWhat yes, I'm in private and I wasn't allowed to join until after my maternity. I'm not sure what will happen to my current schema when I take leave this time. I'm fully ready for them to say, but hey, you aren't allow to continue.

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 05-Apr-13 10:55:53

dreams hopefully you get some good news with the investigation. I didn't know it's your 3rd mc. It must be a horrible thing I can imagine. I'm really anxious this time because I had one mc.

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retroelle Fri 05-Apr-13 11:22:04

Sorry to hear your news, dreams sad

Williamina, I used to work for your current employers, until I abandoned the academic life for a change of career. I enjoyed living in Ox, although spent a lot of time in London which probably helped. Hopefully you will get used to it. I did my phd in a town I initially hated and found claustrophobic, but grew to love my life there due to the fantastic friends I made.

littlemonkey2013 Fri 05-Apr-13 11:32:50

sorry to hear your news dreams.

i had my scan yesterday (7 weeks) and the black blob has got bigger, couldnt see the embryo clearly though but the doctor said all on track. he turned the sound on and we heard the heartbeat too which makes us feel better. still says we have to go back in 2 weeks to check again and then we should see the embryo.

when we got home we scanned the photo to send to my brother to tell him and zooming in a bit my parents reckon we can see what we think is the embryo with a little umbilical cord.

i was a little disappointed we couldnt see more as a black blob is not always the most reassuring but the doctor seemed very happy and said its going well and not to be worried. so the wait is on for another 2 weeks... i just want to see something that looks like a baby

i dont feel as sick today which is a bonus but then ive only eaten haribo yet today so they are obviously agreeable.

williaminajetfighter Fri 05-Apr-13 11:35:51

retroelle how good to know that someone survived Oxford and the Uni as well. It's a funny place but, like everywhere, good friends make the place don't they? Am just not sure if I like the 'vibe' --- it's certainly not very 'funky' is it? I'm sure i'll find my way back north eventually!

EcoHippyMum Fri 05-Apr-13 11:50:54

Sorry to hear your sad news Dreams, sending you lots of love and hugs x

JBrd Fri 05-Apr-13 11:54:07

Sorry to hear your sad news, Dream, take good care of yourself x

notsoold Fri 05-Apr-13 13:09:10

So sorry for you Dreams....xxxxx

BoyMeetsWorld Fri 05-Apr-13 13:13:07

Onelittle - I'm private sector. They're pretty good but considering the very base maternity pay I'm guessing they won't be overly supportive relating to vouchers.

I do already have a DS - meant to join the scheme ages ago but it was so complicated and nobody here offered any guidance at all.

Dreams - so very sorry - 4th time lucky? Very best of luck

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 05-Apr-13 13:24:47

boysmeetsworld if you have a son in paid childcare, and you are not entitiled to working tax credit, then it's always worth enrolling. You can get £243 a month max (if you are a lower rate tax payer). That would save you about £930 a year in childcare cost. The child's father can claim separately.

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 05-Apr-13 13:25:45

I mean the father can also claim, so in total, if you are both lower rate tax payer, you save around £1860 a year. Higher rate tax payer get less.

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 05-Apr-13 13:27:33

I mean childcare tax credit ... not the working one.

honey86 Fri 05-Apr-13 14:09:31

oh dreams im so sorry hunni sad thanks

honey86 Fri 05-Apr-13 14:30:43

just had my booking app.. ep met me there... but he sulked through the whole appt!! angry cos i werent all smiles n sunshine when i met him. wtf does he expect? give me sum flowers and a note and for things to be back to normal?! he sure came unstuck. i dropped him off at work and said 'if i hear from the midwives ill contact you' and gave him the scan date on a bit of paper. he muttered ok n flounced off like a stroppy child. as per, unless it goes his way hes not happy.

midwife put me down as high risk cos of previous complications and so im under the same lovely woman consultant as last time. but ill still be allowed to labour in the midwife led unit. got my dating/nuchal scan on the 18th x

Lozcat86 Fri 05-Apr-13 14:33:57

so sorry dreams xx

started wearing a 'sea band' today to try to help the sicky feeling - anyone had any results with these?

Saundy Fri 05-Apr-13 14:41:27

No joy for me Loz mostly just an irritated wrist.

Sorry it wasn't better Honey some effort eh? The flowers are the easy part, I hope you're feeling ok?

Alwaystheauntie Fri 05-Apr-13 15:18:47

Just had my scan at EPU. Am 6 weeks not 8, so EDD moved to 29 nov. saw the heart beat on the black lob! V happy all is ok, but now got to go back 2 weeks!!

Dreams - v sorry to hear your news. Xx

williaminajetfighter Fri 05-Apr-13 15:44:07

Loz the seabands did nothing for me. Apparently the curse of those with tiny wrists. Hopefully it will work for you!

getoffthecoffeetable Fri 05-Apr-13 15:53:42

The seabands worked for me. Although am not as nauseous this pregnancy as I was with the last.
Lovely news alwaystheauntie

berrybomb Fri 05-Apr-13 16:24:33

Dreams - I'm sorry to hear that, and hope it works out for you next time.

Honey - it sounds like you handled it very well and kept nice and calm - well done you.

So, these childcare vouchers - I'm confused! Is it basically tax free vouchers you can spend on childcare? But you can only get a certain amount? i know our company offers them, but I've never delved into all the blurb around them!

Lozcat86 Fri 05-Apr-13 16:24:46

so far its not made any difference.. grin(
not actually being sick its just the feeling of it all day long..

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 05-Apr-13 16:31:17

berrybomb here's some info for you regarding childcare vouchers. Basically yes, it's a tax free thing. You sacrifice £243 in pay for that equivalent amount in vouchers. After tax and NI, that £243 is worth less in real cash. But you get a real £243 to use to pay nursery/childminder. It's really that simple.


MummaPanda Fri 05-Apr-13 17:04:04

So sorry dreams

Just had my booking appointment with same midwife as last time, was lovely as she was on holiday when dd was born so didn't get to meet her. She also said that if I'm not 12weeks at my scan, which I don't think I will be, then I should get another! Yaaay! grin

berrybomb Fri 05-Apr-13 17:23:33

thanks onelittle, think I get it :-)

Minesahotchocolate Fri 05-Apr-13 18:32:40

Wow this thread moves fast. So sorry to hear your news Purple and Dreams. Good luck for the future. I hope you're doing ok Ariel?
Re: sex of baby, with my 1st preg I was sure it was a boy - it was a girl. Took a moment to get my head around when she arrived! This time I'd quite like another girl. Had really vivid dream last night tho that I'd just given birth and was holding a boy. Can't get it out of my head as it was so clear. Time will tell! They do lots of scans in Germany so it makes it hard not to find out until the birth, and the medical staff find it quite exciting not knowing for once!

Had had v v little symptoms but last 24 hours have felt queasy - which I find bizarrely reassuring. Someone mentioned they're eating Haribo - me too!! Normally find them way too sickly sweet but have eaten shed loads of them recently smile

Oh, is anyone else taller than average? I'm 5'11, ideally take 34length trousers. Found it v hard getting mat clothes last time - am hoping being preg largely in summer will be easier (am hoping for mild autumn!). Found some great mat trousers last time from Long Tall Sally. Any other tips of places to try??

Hope everyone keeps well - roll on the 12 week scans! Think I'm 9+3

ClaraColomba Fri 05-Apr-13 18:52:31

Hello all, been lurking for a little while. Very nervous because I have a scan tomorrow (8 weeks + 4) but last time I had a scan in the autumn the news wasn't good, and I can't bear the thought of hearing those words 'I'm very sorry but we can't find a heartbeat' again. I don't expect to sleep well tonight!

Saundy Fri 05-Apr-13 18:55:14

I keep dreaming its a girl but I think it's just because I want one!

Before I got pregnant I was a Haribo addict but they are now one of the things that are sure to make me physically sick. Gutted. 3 for 3 occasions though so it's time to face the facts & back away from the jellies.

Saundy Fri 05-Apr-13 18:57:17

Hey Clara welcome & congrats.

Sorry you've had bad experiences but this is a new pregnancy so everything crossed for tmr. How have you been symptom-wise? Thus baby is kicking my ass so far!!

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littlemonkey2013 Fri 05-Apr-13 19:03:50

clara good luck for tomorrow

TiredFeet Fri 05-Apr-13 19:35:38

dreams I am really sorry to hear your news, wishing you all the best for the future!

Well I rang the doctors and the receptionist confirmed that the gp I saw hadn't done the right things to get me booked in with the midwife angry

Took ds for a walk to the shops today and suddenly had to decorate some bushes blush just as a man walked past with his dog! He was a bit alarmed until I explained why! Ds just sat on his trike staring, his eyes wide with shock!

honey86 Fri 05-Apr-13 19:35:40

believe me it was awkward. i had to wait a while to have my bloods taken and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife. ive told him ill have talks with him once the kids are back at school, a few days before the scan but til then i just wanna be alone to throw my guts up rest and recover.
he seriously needs counselling hes so obvs got depression but typical bloke too stubborn to get help for it. i wont even bother if he dont cos as harsh as i sound im not willing to live with it.

feel so ill today i could cry, cant wait til bedtime xx

TiredFeet Fri 05-Apr-13 19:36:46

clara keeping my fingers crossed for you that all is well tomorrow

Dizzy81 Fri 05-Apr-13 19:42:17

Dreams I'm soo sorry. Clara, good luck for tomorrow.

Well serves me right for bragging this morning about lack of symptoms, had a massive wave of nausea at work which resulted in dry heaving! Lovely. The boobies have been tingly and the appetite has been massive!

MissTweed Fri 05-Apr-13 20:28:41

Evening ladies smile, can anyone help as I'm having a bit of a panic.....
I'm having the combined scan/blood test for downs and was sure I was told to have my blood taken at 10w + 1or 2 (so in time for scan but thats the earliest you can have them done) but I've just read my notes and the midwife has written 11w + 1/2. Have I had them too early to count?? I can't find anywhere where it says the earliest you can have the bloods taken?? Can anyone help? hmm

louby86 Fri 05-Apr-13 21:00:05

Good luck for tomorrow Clara.

Miss Tweed - sorry, I've no idea but didn't want to not acknowledge your post and look like I was ignoring you!

Been busy cooking all evening for the feb 2012 bus party tomorrow! I'm so excited!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 05-Apr-13 21:01:09

sad so sorry dreams I had all the tests done for recurrent mc too. They all came back fine, which means they couldn't do anything to help. But the consultant really put my mind at ease by saying it means you have the best chance of a healthy future pregnancy. (I think that's medical speak for you've just been horribly unlucky and it will be fine in the end).

Really hope you have a healthy pregnancy in the near future thanks

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 05-Apr-13 21:04:14

honey well done for staying calm around your ex. You have def beaten me re the Doppler, it arrived today, I'm 10 wk 4 and couldn't find a heart beat. It's worrying me but all the symptoms are still there, so I'm really hoping the foetus is ok.

misstweed I don't know. I think I had my bloods taken at 12 weeks for the combined scan (pregnancy with dd). Not sure though.

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 05-Apr-13 21:11:52

misstweed I have no idea either. Can you ring your midwife and ask. I was told to have bloods taken beofre 11weeks for a bunch of things like HIV. And then have my bloods taken on the same day as my 12 weeks scan for the combined nuchal/blood screening for downs.

louby86 Fri 05-Apr-13 21:19:29

That's how my bloods were too OneLittle. I remember waiting with a ticket after my 12 weeks scan to have the bloods for the nuchal test done.

TiredFeet Fri 05-Apr-13 22:24:55

misstweed I don't know, but I am sure your midwife won't mind if you ring and double check

Animol Sat 06-Apr-13 08:10:56

dreams so sorry - so sad.

minesahotchocolate I'm in Germany too - had two scans already - expecting one about once a month at each gynea appointment - I'm really torn about knowng the sex this time - we managed to not know before but I'm not sure if I can hold out this time!

Diege Sat 06-Apr-13 09:31:01

misstweed to put your mind at rest, if you are combining early bloods with a nuchal scan they can indeed be taken from 10 weeks. It's preferable in a way to take them before the scan as you will get an immediate risk figure then after the scan. I have a nuchal booked for 12 weeks (I will be nearer 13 weeks) and had bloods taken at 10 weeks. Hope this helpssmile

Slippysnow Sat 06-Apr-13 10:18:41

misstweed hopefully this will give you some relief as I am being scanned on the same day as you and they stole my blood for the test at my booking app at 10weeks exactly. smile

MummaPanda Sat 06-Apr-13 10:46:37

10 days til my scan!!! Not that I'm counting down or anything...

EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 10:56:20

I've got my booking appointment this coming Tuesday, and my scan isn't till the 23rd, I really want to move it though as I have uni that day and already have missed quite a few Tuesdays due to Mum passing away etc. going to ring them and see if I can have it in the afternoon instead!

BoyMeetsWorld Sat 06-Apr-13 11:22:43

Best of luck to everyone with scans coming up!!

Gah I hate hormones hmm sat locked in my room crying because went out for driving lesson, DH knew what time I'd be back but has gone out with the dog and left MIL who doesn't speak any English in the house when I got home. I've been dying for the toilet and to throw up all lesson (awful MS) but she's now been in the bathroom an hr, I can't even go to my own bathroom to be sick and when she DOES come out il have to sit in awkward silence or try to speak another language when my head will barely function. Gah!!! Feel really emotional about it and cross at DH but I guess it's just hormoneshmm

Sorry for rant!

EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 12:19:01

Why has she been in there so long?! I got very annoyed at my DH over Friday and Saturday...I had every reason, but I think the hormones and me worrying about this pregnancy made it worse. If I couldn't get into my own bathroom, I too would be angry! x

BoyMeetsWorld Sat 06-Apr-13 12:26:20

Goodness knows - she seems to take an hour putting her makeup on. It's partly my own fault as I don't want anyone knowing im pg at this stage thanks to mc last time.

Theyve all gone out for lunch now & left me because I feel so sick. What food is everyone with bad ms finding they can actually keep down, please?

Saundy Sat 06-Apr-13 13:15:26

Don't eat ice cream!!!! I discovered last night it's is the very worst thing fir the return journey.

Plain ham sandwiches stay down for me. Anything bread related really.

BoyMeetsWorld Sat 06-Apr-13 13:23:23

Thanks Saundy I've been living on bread (with occasional cheese if I'm having a good hour) but its making me feel somewhat...erm...bunged up (sorry tmi!)

Will def be avoiding ice cream!

Saundy Sat 06-Apr-13 13:30:07

Apples are ok too actually. It is really hard though to find something that'll stay. It's no craving & all aversion this end.

Dizzy81 Sat 06-Apr-13 13:31:05

Ritz crackers, sandwiches anything starchy really.

SuffolkNWhat Sat 06-Apr-13 13:44:37

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BoyMeetsWorld Sat 06-Apr-13 13:49:06

Oooooh squares - could fancy those!

Dizzy81 Sat 06-Apr-13 14:09:36

I had a massive thing for sal and vinegar crisps and lemonade. I went to makro and got a box of 40 mccoys.

Fresh baguette with cheese - helped me tho I didn't have much nausea so not really qualified to comment!

Seems to be that bread etc does help tho does somewhat 'bind' you up lol

MummaPanda Sat 06-Apr-13 14:45:52

Ginger biscuits toast and bread sticks. I also find lemonade helps settle a queasy stomach. And anything starchy, like oven chips without any sauce / salt and vinegar, just plain. Basically nothing with any flavour lol

MotherOfCleo Sat 06-Apr-13 15:32:51

apples were my saviour when I was nauseous.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 06-Apr-13 15:57:53

I'm not good with fruit and vomiting. I ate some pineapple yesterday and threw it back up 1 hour later. It was really acidic and burnt all of my throat.

Still can't find a heartbeat on the Doppler sad 10 weeks 5 days today.

williaminajetfighter Sat 06-Apr-13 16:14:40

I think they should open a restaurant for women with MS called 'Plain white starchy stuff....' Huge loads of mash potato, buttered toast and other carbs. All you can eat. Would be lovely.

I've been finding that toast is fab and Robinson's lemon squash is really nice --- you can take the bottle to work and add it to water all day.

I am eating CONSTANTLY. It is getting embarrassing. Yesterday went down to London with colleagues for an event --- was eating on the train, then stopped in Paddington to buy something in the shop, then ate all the canapés at the event + 3 drinks, then stopped at Yo Sushi on the way back. I am disgusting myself but they must be aghast! Funny enough I've only put on a few pounds but I'm sure i'll jump up shortly.

When will this MS end? I cannot remember last time around... for all those with lots of children, can you remember when this particular type of hell will be over?

I'm really hungry too! Have had cornflakes, a cheese and lettuce baguette, apple, wee packet of peanut m&ms, half a cookie and several glasses of cranberry juice!

I've done a right bit of exercise today and my blood sugar has gone a bit haywire. Feeling a bit shaky but not sure what's best to eat?!

stuffthenonsense Sat 06-Apr-13 16:48:59

Ms for me tends to end when the baby is born...only 30 weeks to go.

EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 17:16:07

when I have read somewhere that they aren't the most reliable till later on from about 16 weeks x

williaminajetfighter Sat 06-Apr-13 17:18:50

oh stuff I feel for you. You are a trooper especially for doing it more than once.

williaminajetfighter Sat 06-Apr-13 17:19:22

sorry, trouper..

honey86 Sat 06-Apr-13 17:20:45

dw bad, ever since, i havent found it again sad starting to wonder if it was actually babys hb i heard blush

as for ms, i cant remember exactly when ms went last time, but i THINK its about 14 weeks... i remember throwing up at the side of the road after my dating scan with dc1 and that was about 12-13 weeks x

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 06-Apr-13 18:14:42

honey sorry you haven't heard the heartbeat again secretly quite relieved, sorry
I guess it is just really hard to find at this stage. I'm going to try and ignore the Doppler till after my scan next Saturday.

EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 18:16:52

Gahhhh bloody men!!!!! Sorry feeling very angry and emotional and my DH is royally pissing me off at the moment. This weekend I had to pick DD from his aunts house in NE Lincs as she had stayed there the week, the Friday was his aunts b-day. He refused to go as he didn't want to upset his mother and twin brother (both he rarely speaks to), even though he knows how tired I am getting and how worried I have been due to this constant brown discharge. Then he takes yesterday off work to play games and laze about to put together a piece of furniture I could have done in an hour; tells his boss it's his starter motor on his car and tells them he will use my car!!! This he has done before and I told him never again, as the car isn't insured to drive for work...I am not risking my insurance! So he then says 'well you wouldn't even have the car if it wasn't for the fact my dad bought it and I gave it to you'...but that was because he broke my damned car in the first place!!!! Even the car he uses for work I payed and my mother payed for! So pissed off excuse the language!

EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 18:17:28

Sorry for ranting - men = blooming frustrating idiots!

BoyMeetsWorld Sat 06-Apr-13 18:34:01

Well just been out and I got some salt and vinegar squares - they were lovely but did make me feel funny after. Then had a plain pizza baguette slice - that went down ok(ish). DH & co are having chicken tonight though and the smell of it is turning my tummy no end.

The one thing I've found that I can't get enough of is strawberry ribena. Never used to like it!!!

The poster who mentioned YoSushi - is that ok? I thought sushi was a 'black listed' food?

EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 18:35:57

Bacon, cheese and onion crisps, black currant - never normally like them but now do :/

So queasy ALL THE TIME. I hate it, no puking but just constant quease. Definitely worse if I haven't eaten. I'm already a fatty so worried about even more weight gain. Fizzy water seems to help. I'm going to have to talk to the mw on Tuesday about taking phenergan or something because I feel so awful all the time. I'm glad it's not hg but this isn't any sort of fun.
I'm wondering if I have my dates right. I had coil out end of Jan, period in Feb was v late and then v light. It makes next to no difference really, although it would mean DP and I can't take a holiday when we hoped. But it would mean I was closer to the exciting 12 weeks.

BoyMeetsWorld sushi is ok if fish was frozen first http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/foods-to-avoid-pregnant.aspx#sushi

williaminajetfighter Sat 06-Apr-13 18:52:55

Hi - I had the veg sushi, not into the fish.. just love the rice and avocado maki rolls!

I just had a cream cheese and jam sandwich and it was a winner - the cream cheese is very soothing/comforting and the bread provides the necessary stodge.

Sorry about partner eco -- men can be idiots and you're probably a bit more aware of it not that you're pg. He really should be waiting on you hand and foot though!

EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 19:07:58

I don't expect him to, but a bit of consideration wouldn't go a miss. When he does do something it's normally out of guilt after I have said something. Just fuming with him at the moment. He even came out with a stupid comment after I made some food earlier for us, saying I do love you even if you don't like me... Absolute twit!

My other thing of choice to eat at the moment is anything fruity...sweets, not really into chocolate right now although quite fancy hot chocolate. Bought some Warbutons fruit loaf with orange - buttered and its heaven with a cup of decaf coffee or decaf tea!

I have discovered cheese, lettuce and sliced apple baguettes! Totally yum!

I have hated apples my whole life too lol.

Eco men are pests at the best of times but especially when you're pregnant!

EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 19:17:55

Yes they are!!! Might have to try that combination Fairy, sounds nice!

harverina Sat 06-Apr-13 19:38:18

Hi everyone,

Was dd's birthday yesterday so spent the day with her and today have had family over for a little party which was great. Really struggled yesterday with dd at times and it was all my fault - she was fantastic most of the time but played up a bit at one point and ran away from me in the shops and I actually felt like crying and snapped at dd and dm hmm think it was a combination of me being exhausted, too warm and feeling a bit nauseous. Party today was fantastic, made a load of party type food and have grazed on that all day which has meant no sickness!!

Do any other mums feel guilty about something most of the time? I so constantly!

When my nausea is bad I like salt and vinegar crisps to lick, diet coke and now salad grin I had a caesar salad in work on Thursday and it was AMAZING. My boss kept coming to talk to me about something important and I couldn't tear myself away from it. I had to stop myself from groaning haha!!

Whenshe and honey - re. not finding a heartbeat with the doppler, from what I have read, that's not uncommon at our stage. My mw won't listen with the doppler until my week 21/22 appointment. Maybe wait a few weeks and try again, otherwise you guys will just torture yourselves with worry. That's why I didn't get one - I'd be doing it every day.

Misstweed, did you get bloods taken to check your own health in terms of HIV etc? I got that at 8 weeks. I will get bloods taken again on the day of my scan too at 12+3 for downs etc.

I am 10 weeks today. Feel like the weeks are going a little faster now that I don't feel quite so unwell, although every time I say that I then have a horrific sickness day!

Williamina are you really hoping to give birth on Glasgow? (Or do you just miss it so much and you'd love to be here?!) Do you have family up here?

I am sitting waiting on a Chinese meal. Have been craving it for a couple of weeks but not so sure now that it is here.....we'll see!

Hope you are all having a lovely weekend. For those of you with bad sickness hope it passes soon or you find something to relieve it. I was bad last weekend and feel your pain.

harverina Sat 06-Apr-13 19:49:00

Eco sorry your dp is being a nuisance hmm my dh is definitely not being as considerate this time round...he isn't doing anything wrong but he's also not being any extra attentive or caring and last time he really looked after me - so this is, quite unreasonably probably, annoying me!!! I think I deserve a little extra care and attention grin

EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 20:02:32

Well considering what most men get like when they have a cold or anything.... Yeah a little consideration is all that is asked. This is his first too! My fourth...you would think he would be a little more understanding but the I don't think he has read anything about pregnancy, if its something he is really interested in you can't get him to stop researching. I guess that does worry me somewhat. I am sure I am over reacting somewhat too due to hormones and worry - just wish he would see things from my perspective sometimes. And also sort out the issues he has with his mother and brother (and father for that matter)!

MummaPanda Sat 06-Apr-13 20:13:41

boymeetsworld I am also a strawberry ribena guzzler in pregnancy, I have to have a constant supply in the house, but it has to be the cartons with the straws! Was the same with dd, maybe its something to do with the vitamin c?

Dizzy81 Sat 06-Apr-13 20:17:29

Eco sorry to hear your dh is being an arse!

I feel really lucky at the moment as my dh has do far been amazing since I found out I'm pregnant! He's doing the washing up - not something he enjoys doing, cooking tea, a bit of cleaning, washing and constantly making sure I'm ok. If I fall asleep on the sofa early he leaves me to wake up naturally for a wee!
This morning I was throwing up and he rubbed my back, made md juice and made sure I was ok.

For those not bring able to hear the heart beat with the thingy. I think it's too early to hear it, so please don't stress.

Also someone was mentioning maternity clothes for the longer legged ladies amongst us, I've found a site that specialises in mat clothes for the ltsller lady . Will post link when not on my phone.

Am having to use a hair band to button up my jeans! I'm a fatty. :-(

littlemonkey2013 Sat 06-Apr-13 20:59:10

ive felt really off for the last 2 days. i feel like ive got constant wind and today ive had some brown discharge. i know a lot of people get it but it still makes you worry. though i am trying to calm myself down with the fact that i still feel really sick most the day and my boobs hurt so they are symptoms.

ive struggled with what to eat really and dont fancy much. saundy and boysmeetworld bread has been my staple too but plain bread is probably not all that nutritional though apples have gone down well.
i tried to have some pasta tonight and managed to eat half of it.

i went to the supermarket earlier and felt sick just looking at the food on shelves

LovesTheChoas3 Sat 06-Apr-13 21:31:15

Hi ladies, I haven't been around since the beginning of the first thread due to sleeping my way through the last month and having so much to do I feel like my head is going to explode. Seems like most of you are getting lots of cravings and things you have gone off. I can't stop eating banana's and they are the only thing that stop me feeling/being sick. Have any of you been excessively tired? I have a sleep in the afternoon, every afternoon and sometimes in the morning too. I can not physically keep my eyes open. Was hoping to be anemic and iron tablets would be the answer but no. My DP has been great, my 3 boys have been too, very excited but obviously not quite understanding the time frame of it all. Have any of you told your DC's and how did they take it?

williaminajetfighter Sat 06-Apr-13 21:52:38

Harv, my DP still works in Glasgow and I am down south with DD. he comes down on the weekend but its tough being alone during the week.

Ill likely take my mat leave back in Scotland and then we'll decide whether to come back south. Two homes is killing us financially but he's yet to find a job as good as the one he's got. At the moment I feel a bit like a crazy tired single pregnant mom

Ps my prenatal and baby care was so good in Glasgow as was my birth I'm scared to go elsewhere

SuffolkNWhat Sat 06-Apr-13 21:52:52

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EcoHippyMum Sat 06-Apr-13 22:42:05

littlemonkey it is really worrying, but try and stay relaxed. I still worry, even though the last time I spoke to the midwives they seemed not bothered about it all! She said unless its bright red, with clots and a lot of pain not to worry. I am getting weird twinges, but ALS a lot of wind that doesn't help matters - I feel like I am going to worry the whole way through this thing!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 06-Apr-13 22:50:29

Sorry about the brown spotting little & echo

Thanks to all for reassurance re heartbeat. I'm going to leave it alone till after my scan next week.

littlemonkey2013 Sat 06-Apr-13 23:05:14

thanks for the reassurance.

i feel he same eco that im just going to worry all the time

EcoHippyMum Sun 07-Apr-13 09:04:02

Good morning ladies and little bumps smile I hope you are all ok this morning. DH and I had it out last night, and I don't think he even realised how he was making me feel..but I think I have from what he said been making him feel bad as I have been snappy. So we are going to try harder. Keeping fingers crossed but the horrid brown stuff has gone! But saying that my breasts don't seem as sore... I seem to remember it fading in my last pregnancies fairly early on. Has anyone else had this?

Saundy Sun 07-Apr-13 09:39:02

Will I'm sad to say I would go to that restaurant! There's s gap in the market we need to get on it!

Loves I totally know where you're coming from. I've never know fatigue like this. I wish I had your napping opportunities! Work is so hard. I can't wait until this trimester is over. I think I'm expecting 12+1 to be some kind of magical morning where I spring out of bed full of energy, no sickness & totally back to normal - it happens like that right?!

Am glad you're getting somewhere with DH Echo it is easy to forget its nowhere near as hard on them too!

Am not particularly showing but am feeling so uncomfortable, especially on a night when trying to sleep - doesn't bode well!

BoyMeetsWorld Sun 07-Apr-13 09:49:51

Eco - my boobs are def less big and sore at the moment too. As I've previously mc I'm hoping that's not a bad sign - but the ms is still raging and no bleeding so fx. I think hormones just fluctuate throughout different pg stages.

Plain White Starchy Stuff would be a GENIUS cafe...imagine if it was combined with a lovely maternity wear / baby-proof jewellery shop, maybe a little library about pregnancy and parenthood where you could read the books while in the cafe, and a "kids welcome" policy. One of us should really do it!!!

Dizzy81 Sun 07-Apr-13 10:12:21

Eco glad you and your dh have sorted everything out.

I've got a stinker of a cold, feel sick and want to curl up in a ball and sleep. I'm nibbling my way through some toast - fingers crossed that will help.

Hope everyone's ok?

Saundy hate to tell you that the first trimester doesn't finish until 14 weeks so you've a wee bit more to wait!

I've slept practically all weekend lol tho dragging myself up to go and ride my horse now. Massively thirsty all the time and its a pest.

Have a good day everybody!

TiredFeet Sun 07-Apr-13 11:30:41

Really miserable now. Can't keep anything down and constantly vomiting even when nothing left sad off to out of hours dr later, praying they will give me injection! Feel so sad as stuck in bed, if move I am sick. Little DS sort of understands but he is going to find it v hard if it goes on for weeks sad . Dh meant to be going away with work next week but I think I need him to cancel, we have no family nearby and I am scared if I try to cope on my own I will end up in hospital and then where would ds go. Just hope dh isn't to stressed, but he knew I was pregnant when he agreed to the trip so it was always a gamble

Ariel21 Sun 07-Apr-13 12:21:23

Someone asked how I am - but have lost the page so can't find out who! I'm doing just fine - went shopping for a bridesmaids dress yesterday so told my secret to other bridesmaid and MOTB. Stretchy silk jersey and empire line is my friend.

Hope everyone is OK today.

Saundy Sun 07-Apr-13 12:31:55

NOOOO Fairy Noooo!!!! 14 weeks? Really? So 14+1 is now my new miracle day.

Sorry to hear you're feeling so rubbish Tired hopefully the Dr will be able to help.

2 things have happened in the last 24hrs that have been a real you're pregnant reality check. 1 - looking at cars with back seats & generous boots to part ex my lovely little 2 seater convertible for BUT perhaps more disturbingly is 2 - seeing that dungarees are back in fashion & thinking 'nice one' haha.

Saundy Sun 07-Apr-13 12:33:07

Hope you're feeling better too Dizzy

harverina Sun 07-Apr-13 12:43:33

I was about to say morning then realised its well into the afternoon now grin and I have done nothing with my day! In laws are still here, so I am going to go and hide somewhere and do uni work while my mil looks after dd and dh and fil do DIY!

Sorry to hear that everyone is feeling a bit miserable this weekend. Tired I hope the dr is able to help you. I feel quite fortunate compared to others (it doesn't stop me from moaning!)

I am very tired today. It's been a busy few days with work then dd's birthday party. I look hungover - you know the way that no amount of makeup will hide tired eyes, well that's me today, I look awful. Dreading work tomorrow hmm.

Pregnancy wise, the sickness continues to come and go, though it has been over a week since I have actually been sick. Nighttime seems to be worse for nausea and heartburn. My boobs are still sore. They are bigger but massively so (they were already massive hmm).

Eco glad you and dh have sorted things out grin

Ok is better go - I need to give myself a shake and get motivated!

Will catch up later.

harverina Sun 07-Apr-13 13:09:41

Not massively so haha!

suprisepitstop Sun 07-Apr-13 14:16:07

hmm, just went into kingston with DH for a wander and dragged him into john lewis to have a bit of a nosey at baby buggies and suchlike, and maternity wear. have got to say, buggies etc so confusing, think it is going to take me six months to figure it out! and the clothes!! just because i am pregnang does not mean ive had some strange brain shift making me want to walk around in floor length white cheesecloth skirt with massively fat making horizontal striped top!! im pregnant, not insane without any taste! think further research into shops is required

Minesahotchocolate Sun 07-Apr-13 14:30:36

Tiredfeet - I hope that the sickness passes soon, that sounds really horrible. Esp. if you're meant to be looking after a little 'un. I hope that your DH is able to stay home - you don't need that extra worry if you're already feeling so rough. Were you sick like that with your 1st preg too?

Littlemonkey - I also had a bit of brown discharge this morning. Gave me a bit of a surprise (and been obsessively checking ever since). Keep trying to tell myself that it is normal.

Animol - Where abouts in Germany are you? I'm in Munich. The healthcare here is so crazily good isn't it? I'm trying to learn German at the moment, and am really noticing the effects of prego brain - my concentration has gone out of the window.

Dizzy81 - That was me asking re: taller preg clothes. I am reassured to hear you say that you're using a hair band on your jeans as I just started doing this this morning! I'd forgotten how pants this early preg stage is - I feel sick, and generally fat, can't fit into my clothes properly, yet have no proper bump to show for it. I feel a fraud wearing a bump band/jeans held together with hair band combo as I just look fat! There is no bump, not even a hint of a small one. I also don't want folk to know yet, but dressing like this makes it kind of obvious.

I'm 9+5 - any one else at this point also already using a hair band? Needing to unbutton jeans? (Prob not helped by my jeans already having been a bit snug before the preg). I'm sure it didn't happen anywhere near as early with preg 1 (but then I still have a mummy tummy from preg 1).

Have also got a stinking cold - oh to be able to take some decongestants! Hate not being able to take most medications. On the plus side, now that I'm not buttoning up my jeans and am only a couple of weeks from the magic 12 week mark, it is all starting to feel a bit more real and I'm beginning to get excited about this baby (which is a relief as at first I felt so distant/in shock about it). I'm looking forward to being able to tell my parents smile

Minesahotchocolate Sun 07-Apr-13 14:31:43

Ooops, seem to have written an essay. blush

Oh TiredFeet poor you. I really hope you get sorted. It sounds miserable.

I feel like crying because the nausea is constant. I've tried everything suggested anywhere ever. How can I do an interview on Tuesday when I feel so awful? I'm trying to be positive about it, it means my baby is growing. I'm 6w3d and keep looking at my little fingernail as that's how big the bissellah is now.

I feel massively lucky not to have what some people are suffering - hugely lucky!

Hope all those with nausea/ vomiting feel better v soon.

Saundy I've a convertible too but it's a 207cc so there's a huge boot and wee back seats too. My OH is changing his car so we can fit baby and dogs in all at one time but otherwise my car will be grand. Note to anybody with leather seats - baby seats leave huge marks! But I saw a special padded seat cover thing in my local baby shop for £8 that stops the damage.

Having a wee sit down now before thinking about hoovering confused

BoyMeetsWorld Sun 07-Apr-13 18:34:04

MsFanacker I know exactly what you mean. I am currently sat outside a restaurant whilst all my family are inside for the next few hours having a meal. I've just made an absolute idiot of myself by not being able to want a single thing off the entire menu (didn't help that it's a v elaborate menu & when asked they wouldn't even do me a sandwich or just some plain pasta or salad). Then I burst into tears when they brought everyone's antipasti because the smell of the Parma ham was making me retch. I've had a grand total of half a banana, 1 slice of brioche and 2 roast potatoes today & I threw up all of those.

Now trying to stop crying and pull myself together but can't see an end to this constant nausea. Not sure how I'll manage work tomorrow.

How's everyone else's ms today?

littlemonkey2013 Sun 07-Apr-13 19:13:32

boymeetsworld sorry to hear about your restaurant trip, i could imagine me being the same as i told dh i wanted biscuits yesterday and walking up and down the biscuit aisle 3 times i declared i didnt like any of them.

i thought i was doing better today i woke up and was able to drink my morning coffee and have cereal and banana for breakfast. the nausea hit around 2pm and felt sick since.

typical anything i think i could fancy i dont have in the house, at the moment i am dreaming about fresh corn on the cob, its all i want to eat....and also a cold glass of wine but i think thats because i cant have it.

only a little brown spotting today so fingers crossed alls ok

fairy if you are worrying about leather seats then think how my seats are going to get because they are beige! i think im going to have to find a car seat protector type think to save them.

honey86 Sun 07-Apr-13 19:13:43

evening, ladiessmile

ms not too bad today, still wore the seabands though.. definately lacking in energy, though i was so sick of looking at my overgrowing garden and after my food shop i mowed the grass pruned the shrubs cleared rubbish etc so exhausted now.

feeling abit up and down emotionally, breaking up is starting to sink in abit now, <sigh> why do men have to change? sad when dp1 died i swore i werent going to become a single mum again. but from what ive heard, ep hasnt changed abit. still pissing money up the wall still not looking after himself still same old same old. so on i soldier..

boobs are still sensitive but not as painful and not as swollen xx

williaminajetfighter Sun 07-Apr-13 19:55:19

evening boy - you should have come over to my 'dream' restaurant that serves mash, salt and vinegar crisps washed down by Ribena! heaven.

I tried to do a shop today - people stank, the store stank and looking at raw meat made me want to retch. I just randomly threw things in the cart hoping whatever I picked up would do the trick. I am also sooo tired of feeling nauseous and i'm only 9+4. Frig.

My mom is coming to visit next week and I'm not going to tell her about pg as we are not very close and I don't want to worry her if anything goes wrong. Plus she's not so hot on DP so it'll probably be a bit of a disappointment. How I am going to get through 10 days with her I have no idea. I'm just going to have to tell her that I'm coming down with the flu/something I can't shake or that I've suddenly becoming highly allergic or anaemic. Are there any illnesses that last 10 days and make one lethargic and nauseous? Should I tell her I have Mono? smile

EcoHippyMum Sun 07-Apr-13 20:09:38

Evening all, went for a nap earlier and woke up feeling nauseous bleurgh. Had some very light brown spotting again and everything is stretching, blooming relaxin is even making my legs ache already.
Awaking a friend to come, she is bringing me a African Pygmy hedgehog!! I haven't seen her since we were 17, so will be nice to catch up.

BoyMeetsWorld Sun 07-Apr-13 20:23:37

Soo good (in a selfish way!) to hear others are going through the same thing. Willamina your restaurant sounds like heaven smile

Eco - are you serious? A real Pygmy hedgehog? Why? And Awwwwwww! Please add photos if it's a real one!

harverina Sun 07-Apr-13 21:03:32

Boymeetsworld have you seen your gp about your sickness? Might be a good idea to see someone and get some help with your sickness. Such a shame that you were not able to eat with your family today. While some days my nausea has been awful and there have been times I have been sick, generally there is always food I crave which helps me, even for a short while.

Williamina jut caught up properly and saw your message - you must find it hard during the week while your dp is away hmm. My dh is working away again this week from early Monday until Friday night and I find it a struggle sometimes. The first week he went away (he has a newish job) was horrendous because my nausea, dizziness and diarrhoea was awful. I cried most nights and really struggled with all the basic day to day stuff with dd. it's gotten a little easier as the weeks have passed as my ms comes and goes and is never constant and my diarrhoea and dizziness has pretty much gone (perhaps they were linked). But just to have someone else around to help a bit is great - I really appreciate what he does when he isn't here as he is so good around the house. I know that single mums just have to get on with it and I admire their strength and all the hard work they put in.

Honey sorry your ex hasn't been any bwtter. In a way it may be better to realise that now? I don't know, it's easier for me to say that as an outsider when I am not on your shows, but you have been a single mum before and seem to be so strong that you will manage this time too. I was brought up by a single mum and while I know she struggled financially and probably emotionally at times without a partner I can honestly say, hand on heart, that I had the best childhood and a fantastic relationship with my mum. We are very close (we have our moments!) and I love her to bits. I'm not minimising the difficulties, just wanted you to know that I had a really positive experience as a child.

I am jut heading to bed - dh is up and 4 and while he tries to be quiet I usually waken and struggle to get back to sleep so I'm determined to get off to a food start tonight grin

Btw can't believe how common brown spotting is in trimester 1! Maybe if we were told these things we wouldn't panic so much. Thinking of those of you that do have spotting, and understand that you will be feeling anxious despite midwives not being too concerned.

Also thinking of those of you who are feeling sick and being sick tonight. Try and sleep as much as possible. I noticed a huge difference after a decent sleep.