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Sept 2013 - kicks, prods and finding out the sex...

(1000 Posts)
LexyMa Sat 30-Mar-13 17:25:53

here we all are... hoping for nice clear 20w. scans, not too much inadvertent weeing and getting that 'glow'...

JammyTummy Sat 30-Mar-13 17:33:49

Is this thread number 6 now? Gosh we like a blether...

smallsmith Sat 30-Mar-13 17:41:51

Hello, may I join this lovely new thread please? Have been wanting to join for ages, but am a bit of a 'now and then' mumsnetter, and kept chickening out as it seems you will all know each other by now! Will try and do better at keeping up with the conversation...

Am definitely still waiting for the glow Lexy, still more grey than anything I think!

LexyMa Sat 30-Mar-13 18:04:19

welcome, smallsmith !!

please do jump in, add yourself to the stats thread if you like, too!

Should we add another element to the stats? Boy/Girl/Surprise?

it took us exactly 3.5 weeks to fill up the last thread - there are either a lot of us or we yak away like grannies in the hairdressers.

smallsmith Sat 30-Mar-13 18:10:29

Thanks Lexy - stats added. But forgot to add the boy/girl/surprise - gaaah the baby brain strikes again, sorry smile

TripleRock Sat 30-Mar-13 18:18:29

Just marking my place. Happy Easter weekend ladies!

Dorita75 Sat 30-Mar-13 18:23:43

Marking my place. Happy Easter everyone!!

MrsMc82 Sat 30-Mar-13 18:26:48

Yay new thread. .... hope everyone is doing wellfeeling a bit ...

Just wondering if anyone is still knackered and feeling a bit (very) whingey?
I'm 15 weeks on mon and could still sleep for England. ...and my knees neck elbows and hips are aching like mad..... dh has been amusing ds all day and I've been dozing all afternoon and still feel shattered. ...
Am I being pathetic? ......

HettySunshine Sat 30-Mar-13 18:29:13

Making my place. Been on the sofa all day playing a computer game on my pc. Bliss! grin

Just checking in!

Wincher Sat 30-Mar-13 18:47:48

Evening all! I'm feeling pretty good at the mo, touch wood!

JoCheshire10 Sat 30-Mar-13 18:50:59

Mrs-I'm exactly the same...shattered still all the time.

Went to a spa today and had a lovely relax, but almost fell asleep during my facial..

Lovely dh is making me tea now whilst I relax on the sofa smile Saturday nights aren't as crazy as they used to be!

Creamtea1 Sat 30-Mar-13 19:00:10

Checking in, thanks for new thread lexy

Refuse to lift a finger for bedtime/dinner tonight as DH can do it after getting at 2.40am last night and then sleeping in till midday! Cue much hungover creeping this aft hmm

CheeseStrawCraving Sat 30-Mar-13 19:02:09

Hiya, marking place, Happy Easter! 17w, still knackered, massively bad back, and addicted to playing candy crush on my ipad... Hmmm.

CheeseStrawCraving Sat 30-Mar-13 19:02:56

ION I have bunny icons thingys on my mn... grin

juniper9 Sat 30-Mar-13 19:22:30

Someone on AIBU commented that the biscuit looks like a bunny who's fallen down face first.

CharlW1 Sat 30-Mar-13 19:51:51

Just marking my place - happy Easter everyone! Jupiter totally agree with biscuit comment [bugging].

thanks all the the advice on itchy nipples - lots of body lotion is working!

This is my first pregnancy and I can not believe how everyone wants to touch my bump (17 weeks but being told by everyone how big it is!). So many people are saying I am having a girl because weight has gone on bum and thighs but I think it's because I have been having 1 to many treats - will find out in 3 weeks time smile

Jammy not sure if anyone else has said this but sounds like you might be getting a urinary tract infection - if it almost aches at the end and burns it might be a UTI

CharlW1 Sat 30-Mar-13 19:52:56

[bugging] is meant to be grin

SGJ Sat 30-Mar-13 20:02:44

Another new thread! We are good at chat. In a caravan on the Isle of Wight for a week - it's lovely but FREEZING!! Felt lots of movements today - child must be protesting against the weather smile

lovesteaandcake Sat 30-Mar-13 20:08:04

Can I join please. I'm almost 17 weeks with DC2 & am beginning to feel the aches coming back! I swear they didn't happen this early last time.
Am still getting some sickness too, & this constant horrible taste in my mouth. Anyone else got this??

I'm counting down the days till next scan as really want to know the sex this time.

Been out all day & now feeling the need for some Easter chocolate to numb the pain!

JammyTummy Sat 30-Mar-13 20:19:31

Ahhh Charl I hope you're wrong! I wouldn't say that it is achey, it's just like a tightening type feeling (don't really know how to explain it) and definitely no burning so I'm hopeful!

I have a roast chicken with the works in the oven, SO excited!

CharlW1 Sat 30-Mar-13 20:25:56

Jammy it will hopefully be just baby having a good wriggle and pressing on your bladder then smile

Your dinner doings like it is going to be seriously delish!

CharlW1 Sat 30-Mar-13 20:26:40

sounds not doing - double baby brain today!

JoCheshire10 Sat 30-Mar-13 20:50:06

Jammy-I've been getting tightening type pains too-but all has turned out to be trapped wind...hope yours sorts itself out smile

frogchops Sat 30-Mar-13 21:30:45

Jammy was it you who mentioned the tight stretchy feeling when you get up from the toilet?? This is what I had a week off work from, I dreaded going to the toilet cos it took a good half hr to calm down again. It was classed as ligament pain by my dr, although worried me loads! I get it now sometimes when I move too quickly.
New pains on the block are sharp pains on my left, only last seconds but I'm sure there's something going on in there. Doesn't feel like the stretchy ones I'm used to so I'm thinking could it be baby? Too early at 15+3?

PurplePoppySeed Sat 30-Mar-13 22:12:05

Wow, I can never keep up! Just caught up again and tried to nub theory on my scan pics only to find I don't have any pics at the right angle to use angry. Would love to know now as it feels like an age to the next scan (2nd May).

I've just started to get these stretching pains too, can't believe how much more painful they are than I expected, does everyone get them this strongly? I just can't remember any pregnant friends mentioning it!

BinarySolo Sat 30-Mar-13 22:33:33

Wow. 2 pages of a new thread already! Eaten far too much chocolate today. This pregnancy should be sponsored by Cadburys.

CheeseStrawCraving Sat 30-Mar-13 22:44:31

Ooh binary, do you think they'll do that if we collectively wrote to them? The September thread, sponsored by Cadbury's?!

Poonli Sat 30-Mar-13 23:35:09

Just marking my place x

flipflump Sun 31-Mar-13 08:01:12

Marking my place.

Happy Easter everyone, trying not to go crazy on the chocolate. Midwife appointment on Wednesday and I'm sure I've gained way too much already but I'm too scared to step on the scales. Hope everyone is having a good break. We're in at my parents, I have everyone spoiling me, it's lovely! My gorgeous 4 yr old nephew has asked several time "is the baby still in there?" and "how will you get it out?" cue me "um ask your mummy!!!"

flipflump Sun 31-Mar-13 08:03:16

Me again. I'm almost 17 weeks and haven't received 20 week scan date, should I chase the hospital?

Also, anyone else 17 weeks with first baby not feeling movement? Feel like I'm missing out/being left behind.

HettySunshine Sun 31-Mar-13 08:42:33

Flipflump, I'm 16+2 and I haven't felt so much as a flutter yet. I think it can be up to 20 weeks with a first baby so we might have a bit of a wait yet.

It's like waiting for the 12 week scan all over again!

frogchops Sun 31-Mar-13 09:00:08

Happy Easter everyone, the one thing I've gone off in pregnancy is chocolate. How inconvenient :-/

JoCheshire10 Sun 31-Mar-13 09:07:59

Morning Everyone -Happy Easter! Really tempted to start on the chocolate eggs..

I'm 14 +4, first baby and felt a few weird movements last night. I don't think it was wind or digestion, felt like little bits of air popping inside my tummy and also some other mini movements. Not having had a baby before not sure whether this is too early to feel movements? Wondering if I imagined it... smile

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Sun 31-Mar-13 09:35:20

Happy Easter everyone.

I'm feeling crap. Lots of headaches, the doctor has given me antibiotics as he thought it might be sinuses but I'm nearly at the end of the course and no better yet. Plus nausea has hit a bit late, I keep coughing so much I'm sick. Eugh. No chance of a rest either with a two year old and this morning he was up at 5.30am I'm waiting to start glowing, I look knackered and haggard at the moment.

CharlW1 Sun 31-Mar-13 10:05:13

flip I'm 17 weeks and haven't felt anything - the midwife said to me that as it's my first not to expect to feel anything until 20 - 21 weeks. Both my sisters didn't feel anything until 20 - 21 weeks with their first and then it wasn't all the tIme so trying not to worry to much.

CharlW1 Sun 31-Mar-13 10:06:26

Oh and I woikd chase the hospital flip particularly as it is a baby boom year.

fl0b0t Sun 31-Mar-13 11:08:36

jammy I had one of those stretching pains last night when I got up from the toilet- it was really bad. Like a stab. Took me a few minutes to catch my breath, it was quite alarming. I'm still surprised by how calm I've been throughout it all!

Ion we found out yesterday that our boiler isn't working so it's on average about 14 degrees around the house and we have no hot water. Bums. We've left messages with a couple of plumbers but no replies yet. Don't want to pay for an emergency plumber so not sure how long we'll be cold for.

flip everywhere is different- so it might be worth chasing (I didn't get my 12 week scan date until week 11 and they booked my 20week in whilst I was there.

Also, don't panic about feeling left behind- my original due date was 23 sept and I spent the first 12 weeks panicking about being left behind. Mms net threads are good as we can voice our fears and have a good chinwag but don't let them stress you out. I made that mistake! The Internet says that you're unlikely to feel movement til 20weeks with your first. I'm convinced I felt something at 13 weeks but who knows? Could have been wind!

Spent last night doing some experimental Easter baking and currently still in bed. Sould probably get up and wash y face (brrrrrrrr).

Dorita75 Sun 31-Mar-13 13:39:19

Same here flip no movement yet, too early for number 1 I think. Like hetty I'm 16+2. Have had a bit of twingy feeling on the left side, nothing sharp or stabby. I'm being very good and not worrying! Just assume there's a lot going on so it's all normal...

Watched One Born Every Minute last night, that poor couple, so positive though. It's made me try to be healthier (I know it wasn't anything they did, it just made me want to do my best for this little bub inside) I need to increase my veg&fruit intake and stop reaching for cheese for every meal...which is possible now I'm feeling much less sick...Finally grin

Enjoy chocolate and slobbing out today everyone! (except you frog just the slobbing for you if you can!)

frogchops Sun 31-Mar-13 14:08:20

On the subject of fruit and veg..,. Anyone got any suggestions for someone that really doesn't like veg? I just really can't stand green veg, and I think the only thing I like is probably parsnips :-/ and salad veggies :-/. I eat things like peas, carrots etc in pies, cottage pie etc but wouldn't put them on a meal on their own. I'm worried I'm not getting enough.

jennimoo Sun 31-Mar-13 14:15:31

Frog - pasta / pizza sauce with carrots peppers and anything else you've got like mushrooms courgettes (red lentils are good too) and blitz it all up.

jennimoo Sun 31-Mar-13 15:37:19

Just reread my post, I meant you add these things to a normal tomato sauce (tinned tomatoes, onions, garlic etc...) would be weird just the extra veg!

badguider Sun 31-Mar-13 16:00:51

Found you all!

Happy Easter. Hope everybody's having a nice day. I'm having a bit of a wobble I'm afraid.

So, today I am 17+3 and I don't have any movements and I don't really have a 'bump' as such.. I've got a rounded out tummy, and no waist, sort of an 'apple' shape but to be honest I've seen many people who have a stomach like this and aren't pregnant. Nobody who didn't know me (and many who do know me) would know I am pregnant.

It's still another week tomorrow before I get my 16(?) week appointment so I've had nothing since the 12wk scan... am beginning to worry that I'm not actually pregnant at all anymore sad

I still have giant boobs and occassional waves of exhaustion and mild nausea... so I suppose I'm just being stupid, but everybody else I know about 17/18 weeks just seems so much MORE pregnant than I do... envy

weebarra Sun 31-Mar-13 16:19:25

Badguider, I know what you mean, even though this is my third, I'm not sure if I've felt any movement. I'm fat anyway so just look fat and don't have my next MW appt till next week when I'll be 18 weeks. I just hope she hears the heartbeat and that can put my mind at rest a bit.

badguider Sun 31-Mar-13 16:36:26

weebarra - your midwife's name isn't 'Shani' is it? (just that i know you're in the same city as me and my mw appt is late cause she's on holiday).

flipflump Sun 31-Mar-13 17:14:27

Thank you everyone, you're right, it's very early and no need to worry about not feeling movements. Hopefully at my midwife app she'll listen for the heartbeat and put my mind at ease. Badguider, I'm with you on that one, don't really look different, morning sickness has gone, I feel great but starting to worry something's wrong. I need reassurance. The 20 week scan can't come quick enough, if I've not got a date soon, I'll give them a call. Hopefully it will be on time, so should only have a 3 week wait.

JoCheshire10 Sun 31-Mar-13 17:20:32

Bad guider-I had a wobble the other day. After being in hospital for minor bleeding I was convinced my bump had shrunk...

My dh assured me it hadn't and it seems to have sprunk up even more over night. My bump is quite big but a friend of mine looks smaller than me at over 30 weeks with her second, we're all in different shapes/sizes. Yours will spring up when it's ready smile

frogchops Sun 31-Mar-13 18:04:32

Thanks jennimoo, although I'd actually rather vomit than eat a mushroom! :-/ I'm rubbish at this game!

Creamtea1 Sun 31-Mar-13 18:42:53

badguider we are the same number of days/weeks exactly and I mentally ticked off all your worries as I read your post. No movements to speak of (and it's my third) no bump just apple shape no waist - fatter to those who know me, those who don't wouldn't look twice. Feeling lots better bar the odd headache.
Only thing I have noticed is that I appear to be having a very grumpy/moody week sad

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Sun 31-Mar-13 19:16:53

Honestly badguider don't worry. In my first pregnancy I was in my normal clothes until 18 or 20 weeks and hadn't gained a pound. I thought I was feeling some fluttering but didn't get a proper kick until I was about 22 weeks. This time I'm rounder but I think your stomach muscles give up earlier second time. I haven't felt any definite movements yet. Last time I don't think I felt pregnant until maybe 30 weeks, I've hardly had any symptoms this time around either.

Girraferama Sun 31-Mar-13 19:17:36

badguider weirdly I was going to post the same thing today (16+2) - my bump (or lack of) doesn't seem to have grown in last 2 weeks and had started to feel firm but yesterday was all flabby. No movements either so I was starting to freak myself out. Glad to see there's lots of others who haven't felt anything yet. I know I'm just being silly. I'm sure we would know if there was anything wrong, we are just in that in-between stage where the euphoria of the 12 week scan has passed and it feels like an age to the next one! Roll on midwife appointments and hearing heartbeats!!

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Sun 31-Mar-13 19:18:01

I distinctly remember pulling a pair of past year's shorts out of storage in my last pregnancy and fitting in them easily at maybe 18 weeks and I was panicked but everything was fine.

lovesteaandcake Sun 31-Mar-13 19:56:39

I did the dreaded task of stepping on the scales today. I've put on 1st 3lb in 17 weeks. Oooops.
I feel like total rubbish today as have some sickness bug thing. Can not face anything other than water so missed out on the beautiful roast dinner the rest of the family had sad

badguider Sun 31-Mar-13 20:09:20

Thanks everybody - it really helps to hear from people feeling the same smile

JammyTummy Sun 31-Mar-13 20:25:30

I know that this might not be an option for everyone and not everyone wants to pay for scans, but we went for a 'sexing scan', which as well as obviously telling you the sex has a flying look over everything- size, heart, limbs etc, and if anything it's a nice excuse to see your bubba again. It was relatively inexpensive at £75 and makes your heart bound with joy when you see your little one so grown since your last scan! I would really recommend to anyone that way inclined and who us maybe a bit worried!

frogchops Sun 31-Mar-13 20:52:40

Oh bad guider I'm sure that's normal....I'm beyond worried about my poxy 2lb. :-/

frogchops Sun 31-Mar-13 20:54:01

Sorry it was lovestea that was worried about weight gain not bad guider.... I'm I far enough along to blame baby brain??

Creamtea1 Sun 31-Mar-13 21:07:57

frog I would absolutely love it if I had only put on 2lb! As such I will be 18 wks on thurs and have put on 13lbs. Don't look preg just like I've got a fat tummy! Am 5ft 6 was 9 stone exactly before getting preg, size 8-10. Wearing size 10 now (not mat stuff yet) - disclaimer can't fit in topsho size 10 but next and river island jeans still ok.
Have reverted back to low carb eating the last week and dropped a couple of pounds.

BinarySolo Sun 31-Mar-13 21:51:24

Frogchops, I recommend the River Cottage veg book. I got it out of the library and made the beetroot pizza today and the baba ganoush. Both were delicious. Pizza can be a good way to get veg and dips with peppers and cucumber etc are dead easy and yummy too.

JammyTummy Sun 31-Mar-13 21:52:26

binary I looooove baba ganoush! It is so yummy!!!

PurplePoppySeed Sun 31-Mar-13 22:00:52

I'm in the low weight gain group too, also feeling fat though, it's weird, I think weight is coming off my thighs and going on my tummy!

badguider Sun 31-Mar-13 22:10:49

I gained loads in the first eight weeks but then only 1kg since then.... but MW only has my 8wk weight from booking in so won't know that I started much lighter than that before my period was due.

juniper9 Sun 31-Mar-13 22:49:12

I've not really gained anything as not drinking beer anymore has meant I've lost beer weight at the same rate I've gained baby weight.

KamikazeeKid Sun 31-Mar-13 22:55:29

flobot in response to your last post on old thread. ...I still at 18weeks haven't told people and I love that because of that- I've not yet become a baby vessel like with ds....where I could have any number of conversations - I am only allowed to talk baby!!!

AND for anyone daring enough. ...should you have people rubbing /grabbing baby bump belly....grab their bellies back and give theirs a good shake. ...the reaction is superb. .....I often thought about ut and did it in the end....it was a good feeling hahaha!!

This is dc2 I have felt the odd flutter but no where as near as much as with ds who I felt a lot by now....but I was a lot slimmer then!!!

Having to chase baby with the Doppler instead

kipsonline Mon 01-Apr-13 01:29:36

Oooh hello new thread! Back from lovely and v relaxing family holiday in lanzarote... Not looking forward to the mountain of washing and jobs tomorrow!! Looking forward to catching up on your news

BinarySolo Mon 01-Apr-13 07:33:04

jammy it's dead easy to make, quite healthy too as it's basically aubergine, nut butter, garlic, lemon juice and seasoning. I forgot to drizzle with olive oil but it tasted yummy any way!

Have ordered my baby carrier. I went for a Boba 3G in the end. I like that it's suitable from birth to toddler and you can loosen straps so you can breast feed wearing it. Cute design too!

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 10:14:06

I just don't get it....I've gotten much bigger but not much is showing on the scales. At my initial Drs appt when my weight was done i was at about 5 weeks. Anything before that I put down to Xmas eating! And although I was fully clothed, I'm still only a pound or two over it. So, allowing for my clothes, that's not much at all. I'm worried now cos I'm eating like a pig!!

JoCheshire10 Mon 01-Apr-13 11:13:04

Frog-I'm the same, my stomach is big-I can't web fit into my 'emergency jeans' which I keep for my 'fat days'. Haven't been able to fit into these for weeks, but the scales show I've only put on 5lbs which is quite a lot, but I would have expected it to be much more due to my tummy size...

PurplePoppySeed Mon 01-Apr-13 12:56:53

Same here, massive heavy boobs and fat tummy, but only a few pounds on confused

andadietcoke Mon 01-Apr-13 13:02:15

girafferama I had a panic last week when my bump went flabby and seemed to disappear. I think it was the calm before the storm because since then I've gone enormous. Have a proper, high bump, and can't see my feet. One of DH's friends turned up at the house on Saturday and said 'wow, you're showing'. This was through a hoodie. And he's a boy so isn't supposed to notice these things hmm
So, in summary, don't worry. I think it changes as bits move around inside.

PurplePoppySeed Mon 01-Apr-13 13:09:34

Hehe - that's what I'm worrying about, I feel a lot less bloated, so I guess this is now the start of the 'real' bump grin

Just been to the stats thred for the first time in a while - I like the new layout, good call binary!

Creamtea1 Mon 01-Apr-13 17:13:49

Looks like I'm the fatty of the thread then with my 13lbs! Am going to get back on the diet then this week and try and get it down a bit.

Dorita75 Mon 01-Apr-13 17:20:06

I don't own any scales so can't say but have had to put loads of my skirts away in the back of the wardrobe for the next...god knows how long!

Can someone put the stats thread link on please, I've lost it. Thank you.

Just eaten almost a whole melted Camembert to myself, so much for my swapping cheese for veg plan!!

PurplePoppySeed Mon 01-Apr-13 17:44:41

Oh no Creamtea, don't diet, we're all different, I'm sure we all gain at different times. I know I'm starting to get the dizziness now, I can't imagine trying to diet at the same time. We've all got time to diet later.

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 18:18:26

In other frog news!! .... I've had my first baby clothes present. Sooooo cute from MIL and I want something to put them in!!

juniper9 Mon 01-Apr-13 18:47:06

I've just been reading up on nub theory and still no closer to working out what my blob is (if anyone wants to have a go at mine, please do! The pic is on my profile)

I'm hoping it'll be a boy as my sister has a little girl, and I think if I had a girl too they will be compared a lot. I don't care what gender it is (although some o Gap's dresses are gorgeous!) but family harmony would be nice.

Saying that, I think my DP would be better off with a girl as he has this pseudo northern 'give the lad a pat on the head' attitude. He's the soppiest thing in the world with the cats so I'm hoping he will be with our little 'un, regardless of its gender.

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 18:55:11

Do I have to be on the laptop to see profiles?? I'm guessing a phone is no good for this?

JammyTummy Mon 01-Apr-13 19:00:02

frog I'm the same, that's why I insisted on getting a dresser/ chest of drawers/ changing unit thing as soon as the news was out! I knew I'd want to pick up bits and pieces and didn't want them just sat about the floor.
Also, when is your Harmony test? Are you all ready for it?

The little lady in my belly just gave me a little kick {swoon} smile- my heart literally melts every time I feel it! if I knew it would make me so happy I would've got knocked up ages ago

ION I drank about half a bottle of prune juice earlier (was starting to get quite uncomfortable) and chased it up with a Starbucks black coffee, and now there are some serious bubbles going around in my stomach! I feel

JammyTummy Mon 01-Apr-13 19:00:17

It may all kick off shortly!

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 19:13:34

Harmony is tomorrow..,, I'm feeling positive about it and can't wait to see the little one again. We are going to ask about the sex tomoro too but I don't know if they will tell...can they tell at 15+ 4??

CharlW1 Mon 01-Apr-13 19:21:00

Good luck for tomorrow Frog.

I'm of the I've put on lots of weight variety- I am eating healthy though so not too worried and there's always swimming world after the birth hmm

CharlW1 Mon 01-Apr-13 19:21:31

slimming even!

JammyTummy Mon 01-Apr-13 19:21:51

I think most scans tell you from 16 weeks, so give or take a few days it might be ok?

LexyMa Mon 01-Apr-13 19:30:10

Dorita here you are

I haven't weighed myself recently and wasn't weighed at the 16w appt so I have no idea what I have gained. My appetite fell away after the first trimester so (and unlike when DC1 was on the way when I had the luxury of actually choosing and thinking about a balanced diet) I am now just picking at whatever strikes me as stomach-able when I am peckish or even not peckish but think it is about time I should feed. I am definitely a different shape though, started wearing mat clothes this week but have a couple of bigger sized trousers I can also still wear and a few of my normal tops/dresses are big enough to get away with.

Must go and find out about Pilates this week, seriously. I managed to disable myself yesterday after not very much time at all gardening. All I was doing was sitting/kneeling to plant bulbs and then I lifted a half a bag of compost to spread over a bed and almost straight away my back was complaining. I just have no core strength whatsoever. Spent the rest of the afternoon in bed with a hot water bottle moaning that I couldn't take ibuprofen (but I did use some ibuleve type gel which I read is ok).

Good luck with harmony tomorrow frog, and happy kicks everyone (still rarely feeling anything convincing here envy )

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 19:42:40

I'd much rather go to swimming world!! I hope being as its a private clinic they won't not tell us and secretly want us to pay for a sexing scan...

Hi ladies,

I'm back from the conference and cold seems to slowly be getting better. I also got out in the garden yesterday & completely knackered myself out in the space of about an hour just planting bulbs/potatoes & doing a little weeding. Ended up collapsed on the sofa for the rest of the afternoon!

juniper I can't see the nub on your pic so I think ur going to have to wait til the next scan...

I also went to see the MIL today & she is in the process of knitting the most beautiful baby blanket ever! I picked out the wool, but she's worked put the pattern & I absolutely love it :-).

We cleared out the spare room on sat so I now have space for all the new purchases. Off to the baby show at bluewater on the 20th so hoping to make a start their.

Bump is most definitely looking baby like now...having a nightmare finding work maternity wear tho. I normally wear shift dresses & stilettos so am worried that people will think I've let things go if I end up too casual. There's just so little to choose from- and it almost all seems to be black! Which is fine, but surely one black dress is enough...how do you vary it beyond that?

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 20:31:53

Ditzy first time mommy message here....have seen this on amazon and thought it quite good value..... But am planning on breast feeding, (and expressing so obviously will be buying bottles too...) but I'm confused as to wether this is an unnecessary purchase for someone who plans to breast feed?? Don't ask me why, I just got the feeling, and I need 2/3rd time mummies to advise!

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 20:32:24

Doohhh, here's the link, fx it works! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tommee-Tippee-Closer-Complete-Starter/dp/B004GCJF9U

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 20:32:56

I'm guessing it didn't work....brb when I've figured links out!

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 20:43:26
flipflump Mon 01-Apr-13 21:10:42

Frog, I've bought steriliser and 6 bottles from Tesco, as they were on offer. I want to breast feed too but have seen a few family members and friends struggle. My plan was to have emergency back up incase I just can't do it. If I do end up using bottles, I'll add to the collection. That's a great kit but maybe a bit too much if you plan to breast feed. I'm sure I read you shouldn't express until you are well established as each time you feed/express it encourages more milk production. Maybe you could go for bottles, steriliser and a breast pump? I'm sure thats all you'll need if you plan to do a bit of both. I'm sure someone that knows what they are talking about will be along to offer advice. grin

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 21:22:22

Thanks flip this is brill as I have no idea what I'm talking about!! Will have a look at tesco now too...

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Mon 01-Apr-13 21:27:40

If you're planning on breastfeeding I'd maybe just get those ready mixed bottles that come with teats in case of emergency? I breastfed last time and didn't give a bottle until he was maybe three or four months. I'd not bother with a pump or anything initially though, unless you're miles from a supermarket? See how it goes first.

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 21:27:55

See now I'm confused about electric steam, micro, cold water, sterilisers, oh I'm no good at this, I need someone to just tell me what to do. I underestimated this first time mum business!!

jennimoo Mon 01-Apr-13 21:29:42

IME steriliser, pump and a bottle would be enough. DD was a bottle refuser so ended up with one each of every bottle on the market, only for her to drink from cups when I went back to work. If say a pump is s good bet as likely you'll need to reduce the pressure at some point or store some away. However, I spent ages pumping in the first few months for DZd to just refuse it. I discovered later I probably have some enzyme in my milk which means it keeps for hours not days and freezing turns it instantly to yucky tasting, so it all ended up being thrown away sad in the end at work I had to pump had dump too. Don't know how common this is but made me think there might be better things to do than pump, like may be sleep ;)

Sorry, was longer than expected, basically don't buy much, it's easy to get stuff when you need it.

Creamtea1 Mon 01-Apr-13 21:30:29

frog I ordered that on Thursday smile its a bargain, and I signed up to amazon family and got an extra £10 off - the same set is £99 in Argos and asda.
As a 3rd timer I can say it will be useful even if you BF - as if you want to express you will need bottles (and steriliser) so others can feed - as well as a pump obviously. And there's a lot of handy extras with that set - the steriliser itself is £30 plus 5 bottles are about £15 so if you get the tenner off you're getting a lot for your £44.

jennimoo Mon 01-Apr-13 21:32:24

I found an extricating steriliser easier, but a pack of Milton tablets would do the job if its just as a backup. I found the microwave one confusing, as you have to do stuff. Electric one was press button and its done when it beeps!

jennimoo Mon 01-Apr-13 21:34:28

Electric even... I hope you didn't get confused thinking there was another type you'd not heard of ;)

Think I need to go to sleep now, typing getting worse and worse!

Creamtea1 Mon 01-Apr-13 21:35:50

Oh and forget a microwave steriliser, they're cheaper but rubbish - the electric ones are much better and easier to use.

So agree with everyone else in that if you bf you don't need much kit, but the thing here is if you're going to spend £40 on steriliser, bottles etc you may as well get the set with effectively free extras, if you see what I mean.

weebarra Mon 01-Apr-13 21:37:34

I breastfed DS1 for only 6 weeks but DS2 til he was over 2 - he was always happy to take a bottle though. A friend who is a paediatric dietician and who also had a 32-weeker who was in SCBU for a couple of months recommends NUK bottles and I always found them fine. I had a medela electric pump which I got on ok with and a steam steriliser which I would recommend.
I will need to buy new bottles and steriliser for this baby though - because this was an "unexpected" pregnancy I got rid of everything...

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 21:37:41

I've been given a pump by a family member....she said she didn't like it after using once....altho am still a bit funny about it being someone else's. so I'm thinking if I get steriliser and bottles it might still come to the same cost as this pack?? ESP if I do the amazon family thing £45 is a bargain. Still open to 'chill out frog its unecessary' comments though!! wink

JammyTummy Mon 01-Apr-13 21:39:26

I got the microwave Tommee Tippee steriliser, purely because I didn't fancy another piece of electrical kit sat on my kitchen surface, space is of the essence!
Is an electric pump much better than a manual? It's a huge price difference so would be good to know of its worth it.

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 21:40:46

Am also (not planning) but not discounting the fact that breast might not happen for me.... With this kit I'll be we'll away with the bottles if all else fails. Sod it I'm ordering....

JammyTummy Mon 01-Apr-13 21:40:58

Ps frog I think you might as well! My steriliser and bottles came to about £45 and I didn't get any free useful stuff with that!

LexyMa Mon 01-Apr-13 21:45:13

I breastfed with a couple of wobbles in the early days. You don't need that set. You can pick up a microwave steriliser for very little, it is dead simple to use, and just get a couple of bottles (one on the go, one ready washed and sterilised). Cheap supermarket ones are fine, but if it is really just for the odd 'daddy takes over night' and your baby is mostly going to be used to boob, it might be worth using some of the more boob-like teats like Nuk, which also are all BPA-free as standard.

We had an unfunny night on about day 2 when colostrum was very definitely not enough but proper milk hadn't come in, and DH had to drive at 11pm on a Sunday to find somewhere that sold formula. We weren't even in the wilds of rural anywhere, it was zone 4 south London - but the only place was a 24hr petrol station, and the guy on the night payment counter was only used to sliding packets of fags through the hatch, not big tins of powder! So my suggestion would be to have a few of the ready mixed cartons if you really only want to be prepared for the last resort inconsolable hunger emergency, bearing in mind that once the carton is opened you probably won't be able to use it all before it has to be considered unsafe and chucked. We didn't even get a tenth of the way through the tin of powder before it had been opened for its max recommended time so only using half a carton might not be such a false economy as it looks, IYSWIM.

Creamtea1 Mon 01-Apr-13 21:47:51

smile frog if you keep it all in the box until needed, and then it turns out not needed you will be able to get back what you paid for it I'm sure.

weebarra Mon 01-Apr-13 21:53:59

Lexy - I'd agree re the cartons - because DS2 had a bottle so rarely, buying powder would have been a false economy.
I'll pick up a few cartons, a bottle and a cheapy steriliser and make sure I've got the details of the local breastfeeding support groups to hand!

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 22:05:15

Am ordering and will try very hard not to get it out to play with promise to keep it boxed.

fl0b0t Mon 01-Apr-13 22:42:18

I'm also planning on BF but know it won't necessarily be as easy as that. Someone has offered me a bottle steriliser second hand which I will take, so just need to work out what other bits I need. Acquired a car seat, Moses basket, bag of unisex clothes and about 8 washable nappies, plus a play mat yesterday from a friend, all second hand. Have washed Moses basket covers and car seat covers as they had been used up to the point we took them, and have washed all the white baby grows, which look darn cute on my drier! Same friend will be giving us her cot, slings and high chair! She is moving next week so hopefully we can grab the last bits then. I want to give her &some& money for the bits but I know she won't want it, wonder how I go about forcing some on her?!

Had a hilarious names discussion with her 4 children yesterday too..... But we've chosen and are keeping Schtum!

Boiler is 'doing a Jesus' as we're calling it, and after dying on Saturday seems to have risen again today. Maybe it thought it was a leap year and got the days a bit wrong? V grateful tho!

Hope scan and tests go well frogchops and that everyone has had enough sleep and relaxation over the weekend to feel positive and worry free about their pregnancies.

I'm blooming shattered from moving furniture and cleaning all day, but we now have space for nursery furniture and have a proper spare room. Things are starting to look shipshape! A mix of nesting and spring cleaning..... All the things I've wanted to do since getting pregnant but have been too sick to do. Sickness seems to have (for now) mostly abated, thought I need to eat more and more regularly otherwise I start feeling terrible again.

frogchops Mon 01-Apr-13 23:12:57

Got any other very useful friends Flo?? I want one!!

Squidwoman Tue 02-Apr-13 00:14:25

Good luck tomorrow frog.

Can anyone help? I'm getting the urge to order a pushchair and am thinking about the Baby Jogger City Mini GT. Anyone had/got one? Would you recommend the carrycot too?

I'm due on Sept 5th and have been following this thread for a while but haven't managed to join the stats thread yet!

Thanks

BinarySolo Tue 02-Apr-13 07:11:47

Good luck frog.

I have this pump and steriliser. It was all I needed last time. Hand pump worked well for me, help if you express milk from one side whilst baby feeds off the other. An electric pump would have been too much for me as I had heavy milk production and didn't want to stimulate it further. Home Bargains sells breast milk bags far cheaper than Boots etc.

Squid, I agonised over my pushchair choice only to hardly ever use it! I much preferred using a sling, but there are times when the pushchair is handy. Things to look for are how heavy it is, how it collapses down and whether the baby can lie flat. I wanted a carrycot last time, but honestly I'm not sure it's worth the extra spend for the amount of time you'd use it, you could use it instead of a Moses basket tho. Whether you have a car or use public transport may also be a factor, if on a bus you'll bang it light enough to collapse and lift with one hand ideally. Just my opinions, I'm sure others will advise further.

Ion I have a cold. How is that even possible to get a new cold whilst still suffering with the previous one? I'm concerned that this will see a return of the sickness too, so I'm feeling a bit sorry for myself.

flipflump Tue 02-Apr-13 07:23:04

Great tips on bottles, Lexy, thank you for the ready made milk tip. Will stock up nearer the time.

Frog, good luck today, we're all behind you and thinking of you.

Fl0, you have a fab friend too, isn't it amazing what people are willing to give, saving us a fortune. We returned home from our Easter family/friend visit with a cot, Moses basket, stair gate, bumbo chair, bouncy chair, bath seat, play mat, breast feeding pillow and nursery curtains. I look forward to being able to pass all these things on to another friend when we're finished with them.

Kittenkatzen Tue 02-Apr-13 08:56:26

Goodness, 113 posts into a new thread already!

Right, I'm way behind on everyone's news so a very quick download from me and then I'm off to catch up!

Had 16wk appt lat thurs which I think I did mention in the last thread. All well, heard heartbeat, 4 weeks today until 20wk scan smile. We're having a wobble on whether to find out the sex or not - originally thought not, but now thinking maybe...anyone want to convince me either way?! Lovely Easter weekend, lots of friends, family and chocolate. Think I might have felt baby movement on Friday but nothing since so not sure if it was or not. Have ordered an angel sounds Doppler from amazon grin. Not so good news - have come down with a streaming cold and feel awful, got no sleep last night due to blocked sinuses and having to sit upright to be able to breathe. Have binned off work for the day so will be staying indoors but all I really want is a nice big dose of Day Nurse!! sad

That's me done...of to catch up with all your news now!

jennimoo Tue 02-Apr-13 09:01:29

I agree with binary on the pushchair. Bought a heavy second hand Phil and teds and used it for about 6 months before switching to an umbrella fold maclaren. I'd save your money ready to get a decent next pushchair myself.

Also a sling fan, but but they don't suit everyone / all babies so probably worth borrowing or trying them out once baby arrives

Kittenkatzen Tue 02-Apr-13 09:14:47

Just a couple of bits to add - frog good luck today, am thinking of you x also I'm planning to bf but have also bought that TT set just in case/for expressing. It was on special offer so was a bargain or I probably would t have gone with just a few essentials from tesco or wherever.

ready have you checked out Seraphine for work mat clothes? They had some nice dresses last time I looked.

jemimahpuddleduck Tue 02-Apr-13 09:36:54

frog good luck today.

Great to see lots of useful advice this morning, am also hoping to BF and was wondering what I would need.

Had a very productive clear out yesterday it will be round 2 in a couple of weeks then getting the house decorated thought we may as well do it now as may not have the funds later and it needs doing.

Got consultant app this morning due to asthma but hoping he will not need to see me again as can't really see it causing any problems.

nerual Tue 02-Apr-13 10:24:33

good luck frog!! on the sling front can recommend ergo baby, I can still use it for ds1 in back pack mode smile ...

fl0b0t Tue 02-Apr-13 10:32:00

hurrah for friends! I'm making a big spreadsheet of everything we need and trying to recall every conversation with a friend who mentioned "I've got a steraliser I don't need" or similar! So I can track where it's all coming from and where it may need to go back to (or who I owe a drink to!)

frogchops Tue 02-Apr-13 11:11:27

Kitten....re the sex, I know I didn't want to know and a part of me still wants that lovely suprise af the birth.... But since I've compromised with DP and agreed to find out, I am soooo excited to know. I'm also thinking of how lovely it will be to buy nice pink/blue things! Looking at names is a right pain too so hopefully that will be easier. Appt today is 2:15, will update later! Thanks for all the good lucks girls!

BinarySolo Tue 02-Apr-13 11:12:38

I looked at the ergo sling but in the end chose the boba 3G. I think they're quite similar but I liked that you can breast feed in the boba and I liked the matching change bag. It worked out cheaper than the ergo. I'll hopefully get it this week and will be testing it out on my nearly 2 year old ds.

Oh and as predicted the vomiting has returned with the cold. Bums!

astroming Tue 02-Apr-13 11:18:34

Good luck today Frog, thinking of you!

nerual Tue 02-Apr-13 11:38:32

boba looks very similar to ergo...the beco is also supposed to be very nice...it has a headrest which could also be useful. one thing I would say, it is very tempting to get a beautifully coloured sling, some of them are gorgeous, but make sure you buy one that dp is also prepared to wear ( ie resist too many flowers and butterflies!!). also saw that stokke have come up with a new sling which looks similar kind of design, ie where baby sits in sling instead of dangling by pelvis, it also looks good...so much choice!

PurplePoppySeed Tue 02-Apr-13 13:16:01

wow - I think I'm the only person who hasn't got anything yet!

Ready & Kitten - Another work clothes option that I've found is working for me is stretchy, jersey type dresses with suit jackets. I've managed to find some good ones in Hobbs, Phase 8, White Company - none are maternity, but they work fine and I think will have room for a while - for example - IVORY-12&refpage=dresses Hobbs Dress

PurplePoppySeed Tue 02-Apr-13 13:16:43

oops - hyperlink fail!

try again - IVORY-12&refpage=dresses

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Tue 02-Apr-13 13:16:49

Two thoughts from my last pregnancy:

I stockpiled loads of nappies and then found they really didn't suit DS and leaked badly so had loads of nappies we couldn't use. So I'd be wary about doing that. Maybe get one bag and put some money on a card for later use?

I couldn't use a sling with DS at all as he was such a puker and I was totally going to use one before he was born but I didn't fancy sick down my top on a permanent basis. I don't know how many others find themselves in that kind of situation but something to think about before spending a lot of money.

PurplePoppySeed Tue 02-Apr-13 13:17:05

It just won't work! http://www.hobbs.co.uk/product/display?productID=0113-9853-155L000&productvarid=0113-9853-155L000-BLACK IVORY-12&refpage=dresses

badguider Tue 02-Apr-13 13:25:08

purple - i haven't bought or acquired or ordered anything either. (except a campervan which is on order grin)

I am planning to buy some essentials around a month before and save most shopping till after the birth.

I reckon that a carseat, somewhere for him/her to sleep, a few babygrows and some nappies, breastpads, maternity pads and lanisoh is probably all I absolutely must have to start with??
Pushchair might be the other pre-birth purchase for convenience and/or a sling/carrier but I reckon everything else can wait... can't it????

badguider Tue 02-Apr-13 13:28:41

Is this it purple? IVORY-12&refpage=dresses

I am also wearing pre-pregnancy fat-face dresses, many are a little bit flared from below the bust, I just need to add a vest underneath to hide my massive bossoms!

badguider Tue 02-Apr-13 13:29:19

arrghhh.... grin

LexyMa Tue 02-Apr-13 13:47:49

I bought this in blue in the sale before Christmas when I knew I would be wearing looser clothes and wanted to introduce new styles early to throw people off the scent!!! Also another one I can't currently find but also from phase eight.

JammyTummy Tue 02-Apr-13 13:50:20

Isabella Oliver have some really nice dresses that can be good for work too. I initially promised myself that I was going to steer clear of IO as they are quite expensive, but after struggling so much to find nice mat wear in a small size I caved and ordered a top from them- complete convert!
I've decided I'd rather have less stuff but that was really really nice rather than lots of baggy tat.

Just had a cramp come on in my left side since I started typing this- quite sore!!! Let go baby!

frog wishing you lots of luck for today! Can't wait to hear your news!

badguider Tue 02-Apr-13 13:53:43

that phase8 dress is lovely - but i'd need to wear something under it to cover my clevage for work!!

frogchops Tue 02-Apr-13 15:23:49

Am out of clinic and stuck on motorway.... Scan was just lovely, strong 151 bpm heartbeat and clinician said all looked fine. Was really impressed with the clinic, very professional, three people there to do scan, she took her time, looked at all measurements that would be done at 20 weeks and gave us a DVD of the scan. And most importantly said were having a boy!! smile

weebarra Tue 02-Apr-13 15:36:21

Lovely news Frog, so glad it all went well for you.

jemimahpuddleduck Tue 02-Apr-13 15:45:54

So glad everything went well frog and congrats on your little boy!!! How exciting smile

frogchops Tue 02-Apr-13 15:49:41

Not that the sex was most important...obv making sure he's ok was most important. But ykwim!
My lovely aqua coloured pram is just perfect now!

JammyTummy Tue 02-Apr-13 16:05:37

Great news frog! And congrats on the little boy!!!

juniper9 Tue 02-Apr-13 16:46:17

I haven't bought anything yet either. We're going to try and buy somewhere before September, but we don't know where we'll be based in London as DP has interviews this week, and has to state which boroughs he'd want to work in. Then, based on his point scoring, we might get something we want or we might not! No pressure on him then... consequently, I don't want to buy baby stuff if if means it has to move house with us.

Also, I don't know if my sister is planning on giving me any of her old stuff, and she hasn't been very happy about my pregnancy so I don't want to ask directly. I was hoping she'd offer a few things, but I'm going to plan on getting things myself.

fl0b0t Tue 02-Apr-13 17:10:04

Great news frog!

With all the lovely maternity clothes I've been donated, the best stuff so far (of all things) has been a lovely jojomamanbebe orwhatever their stupid name is top (gorgeous soft fabric and beautifully cut) and bizzarely Newlook stuff! I don't often busy stuff in new look seeing as it's all tiny, cheap fabric and see through, but I popped in at lunch today and there were loads of lovely things in there, including (yes really) nice, comfy black skinny maternity jeans! Accidentally spent a little bit of money, including a tight aztec print dress which make my bump look huge-mungeous!

nerual Tue 02-Apr-13 17:20:34

congrats frog, all sounding very positive!

Kittenkatzen Tue 02-Apr-13 17:41:58

Great news frog, and a lovely blue bump! smile

kipsonline Tue 02-Apr-13 17:44:29

Woo hoo great news frog! Phew...

Our 20wk scan is a week today now... Bring it on!!

I would echo caution re nappies. We found pampers new baby great but Huggies leaked every time?!

I expressed for 1 bottle every day for both boys for 15 months and used medala swing. Again, best to see how you go to see if you need it first as expensive bit of kit...

Exciting thinking about baby purchases again!!

Dorita75 Tue 02-Apr-13 18:29:20

Great news frog

Thanks for link lexy

flobot we've been 'paying' people in bottles of wine and beer but my SIL isn't drinking at the moment and refused money, so I'm going to get her a gift voucher for somewhere.

Creamtea1 Tue 02-Apr-13 18:41:43

Great news frog really glad it went well smile

LexyMa Tue 02-Apr-13 19:20:41

Oh great happy news frog, glad you are reassured and Boys Are Great!!!

Hey kips, we're scan buddies! Mine is at 14.30 tues, what about you?

BinarySolo Tue 02-Apr-13 19:35:36

Great news frog. Boys are awesome! Now you can think about names.

frogchops Tue 02-Apr-13 21:11:41

I'm actually still quite suprised I have a blue bump.... Everyone I know was sure it was a girl. It was only me that wasn't so sure. I just can't imagine myself with a boy now after 15 weeks of expecting pink news! Although everyone says boys are best!!

JoCheshire10 Tue 02-Apr-13 21:32:28

Really useful to listen to what everyone is buying-we're moving house in about June/July so planning to start buying in summer sales (or that's the theory) smile

Ion-starting to get a complex about my bump, getting sick of people telling me its big. Someone said today that 'it's the biggest bump they've ever seen on someone who's so early in their pregnancy-especially a first baby', I joked about 'hoping there's only one in there' but think I'll mention to the Midwife not to mention the rudeness of some people! I wouldn't comment on anyone's size of anything!!

....sorry rant over smile

Creamtea1 Tue 02-Apr-13 21:48:25

jo I know it's hard but try to ignore all the rude comments. I am astounded at how rude some people actually are, and how they think it's acceptable to just discuss your body right in front of you and it's ok just because you're pregnant angry
For example, if you hasn't seen someone for 4 months, and when you did you noticed they had put on a bit of weight, you wouldn't say to them 'ooh you've put on a few pounds haven't you??' !! So why is it ok to comment on a pregnant ladies tummy/size/bum etc!

juniper9 Tue 02-Apr-13 22:14:35

JoCheshire10 I'm getting the opposite- people keep saying "you don't look pregnant" like I'm trying to trick them or something.

ION, I bought that steriliser kit from Amazon even though I said I wasn't buying anything until after we move house. A deal is a deal!

CharlW1 Wed 03-Apr-13 00:15:55

Yay Frog that's brilliant news - so happy for you.

Jo I am going through exactly the sameon the bump front and everyone saying how big my bump is - although the biggest thing is everyone guessing if I am having a boy or girl - one of my very close friends inspected me and got me to turn around and then said 'yep definitely a girl as weight has definitely gone on your hips and thighs' luckily I don't get offended easily.

On maternity wear - I got a bargain summer dress from H&M at the weekend as I am going to Turkey on Friday for a week - £5 and is so comfy.

BinarySolo Wed 03-Apr-13 07:49:38

People always comment on the size of your bump. I think there's a pamphlet somewhere entitled 'things to say to pregnant women' that lists: size of bump, sex of baby, how many kids you intend to have et as acceptable topics for discussion. hmm

Ion mse has produced a list of 50 things to make having a baby cheaper. [[People always comment on the size of your bump. I think there's a pamphlet somewhere entitled 'things to say to pregnant women' that lists: size of bump, sex of baby, how many kids you intend to have et as acceptable topics for discussion. hmm

Ion mse has produced a list of 50 things to make having a baby cheaper. Baby Checklist

BinarySolo Wed 03-Apr-13 07:50:56

Grr, cut and paste fail! Had to copy the post to avoid losing it as got a message that mumsnet was down. How annoying!

JammyTummy Wed 03-Apr-13 09:31:40

Oh no Binary it still isn't working!

I signed up to Amazon Family yesterday, it's brill! I get an additional £25 off cause I have Amazon Prime too, so pretty pleased with that!

I don't know what it is about pregnant ladies that makes people feel they can say absolutely anything to them. I've had nothing about my actual bump but some comments (along the lines of dont get ready too early as your pregnancy might still go wrong) have absolutely astounded me!!! I wonder if its people's way of showing that they've 'been there done that' it something. Either way it's rude and unnecessary.

fl0b0t Wed 03-Apr-13 09:57:45

My funniest comment so far has been "I never got that big" from a friend who has a lot of kids. Luckily I was busy laughing at my bump at the time so I felt it was ok. I don't really have a complex on the whole about my body and weight and I know I'm healthy (and still below pre-pregnancy weight)... so I don't find comments about my bump annoying yet. I love my bump, it's SO round /me strokes it.

I really enjoyed reading this book yesterday: www.amazon.co.uk/Here-Maternity-One-Mother-Journey/dp/0091897505 Mel G from Mel&Sue talking about her (unexpected) prengnacy. Absolutely brilliant (and makes me feel very normal!)

JammyTummy Wed 03-Apr-13 10:52:44

I love my bump too! I can't wait for it to get huge so I can prop things up on it, like my cup of tea.
#Cheesy grin#

JammyTummy Wed 03-Apr-13 10:57:04

Ps flobot lolz at the absolute killjoy who gave that book the one star rating on amazon! She actually made me laugh with her miserable review.

kipsonline Wed 03-Apr-13 10:58:57

Ooh lexy great, mine is 9am next tues. are you asking about the colour?!

LexyMa Wed 03-Apr-13 11:16:21

kips I think I might, although I don't feel I need to know (won't make any difference to what stuff we buy, am not into colour coding children!!). DH wants to find out, so I think I'll make a deal that as long as we keep it an absolute secret, we can ask. And of course it's not 100% accurate so there could still be a surprise on the birth-day!!

Girraferama Wed 03-Apr-13 12:27:35

Hi all, just checking in as I had my 16w midwife appointment this morning. Had a lovely midwife and got to hear the heartbeat for the first time, which was amazing and such a relief! 150-60bpm, all healthy and happy!

So excited about 20wk scan now but another 3 1/2 weeks to go! sad

ION I have an infection in my gum where my wisdom tooth is, it's real agony! Dosed up on paracetamol and penicillin and hoping it's gong to start waring off today!

weebarra Wed 03-Apr-13 13:05:40

Well, I had my first unwanted bump pat today from a girl at work who irritates me at the best of times!
She also said that she hoped I didn't double in size or I wouldn't be able to move hmm .
Most people at work have been lovely, we're a close bunch and they know what I went through with DS2 being so ill after he was born.

RunningBear78 Wed 03-Apr-13 13:20:08

Hi all, it has been a while, so just spent an age catching up on all your news! Great news frog on the scan!

Relieved to hear others still worrying about weight and bumps, I also seem to still be piling on the kgs, and although I had a bump three weeks ago, it seems to have gone, or fallen down and around into my bum. Have also progressed another bra size ... sigh.

I had my 16 wk appointment today (hence exicted and back on here!). Midwife was usual off-hand self, didn't get weighed but basically said if I started looking really fat she'd tell me! She also had a spectacular fail with the Doppler; she just got it on the belly and the battery died. Horrified as dh had taken the morning off just to hear a heartbeat! So, long story short, decided to head to the antenatal clinic in the hospital instead and had a lovely midwife (also preggers and due on the 17th Sept...wonder if she's here?) who did a great Doppler, talked me through everything we could hear. It was so amazing to hear the little heartbeat chugging away at around 150-57bpm. Also videoed the whole thing so dh can hear tonight!

On the shopping front, haven't bought a thing (charity shop moses basket and babygrow's don't count, they were both only £2!). Don't plan on getting anything till post 20 weeks, and as little as possible until after the birth. Am spending my time browsing websites and baby shops so when the time comes I know what I'm after ... and it prolongs the excitement.

Sorry ... bit long!

jemimahpuddleduck Wed 03-Apr-13 13:23:23

Just ordered the steriliser set from amazon thanks frog for the link and creamtea for the info on joining thefamily club, I must make a note in my diary to cancel before the 3 months is up.

Made a big spreadsheet at work this morning with everything we have bought and what we need etc will also keep track of how much we are spending.

ION had my consultant appointment yesterday for asthma and was signed off so just midwife from now on. Was a bit of a waste of time but got to hear heartbeat again which was lovely.

kimjayne Wed 03-Apr-13 13:44:43

Flobot - I love Mel and Sue! One of the main reasons I am so addicted to the Great British Bake off. Anyway, just bought that book on Amazon following your recommendation. Only £1.84 including postage! Bargain.

smile

Hope everyone is well today! I have finally started to form a bump smile Hurray! Feeling more pregnant now I have something to show for all the sickness. And I love it when the hubby rubs my tum to say hello to baby smile

13 days til the 20 week scan! tick tock .... come on 16th

EmmaDee Wed 03-Apr-13 13:54:40

Hi all,

Its been an age since I posted but I've been keeping up to date with all your news! My bump is still just looking like I've eaten all the pies, and my skin has decided to flare up so I look like a spotty chubby teenager!

I have my 16 week appointment this day week, so hoping she'll listen for the HB. I have a doppler and I found the heartbeat myself this morning but ity'll be reassuring if the midwife does it!!

juniper9 Wed 03-Apr-13 14:16:22
JoCheshire10 Wed 03-Apr-13 14:17:34

Thanks everyone, clearly not just me with the inappropriate comments thensmile

The MSE checklist was really useful! Ill be joining Amazon family too-on the lookout for freebies so anything I find I'll post on here too.

My 16 wk midwife apt will come when Im 15+1 (it was booked prior to my 12 week scan and the MW said not to move it unless it was a couple of weeks out. Wondering whether they can still hear the heart beat this early? Does anyone know?

badguider Wed 03-Apr-13 15:51:59

Just went to order that book - there were only two copies left on amazon. Is that because of this thread??

Keepsmilingsunshine Wed 03-Apr-13 16:24:31

Jo I had mine at 15+2 and she listened to the HB grin.

Good luck with all the 20 week scans coming up, its odd that the weeks are whizzing by but time feels like its on a go slow IYSWIM.

Still have just about everything from DC1, except a few things which were lent out and never returned, so hoping not to have to go mad this time round.

MummyOfPrawn Wed 03-Apr-13 16:25:36

You should have no problem hearing the heartbeat at 15 weeks, JoCheshire. I have been able to hear the heartbeat since 12 weeks on our little doppler we have at home.

Creamtea1 Wed 03-Apr-13 16:44:38

Think I'm going to need to turn into a hermit, I'm sorry to go on but the weight/size comments are really getting me down. I was bmi 20 before preg and am now bmi 22. FFS most of the people making the comments are bigger than that and they are.not.even.pregnant! it's like gleeful joy for every extra pound that goes on angry
It was easier last time round a few years ago when I started out at bmi 24 and had tipped into 25+ by 12 weeks, started a bit fat do noone bloody noticed the additional fat (or didn't comment at least!)

JoCheshire10 Wed 03-Apr-13 17:17:06

Ahh-thanks Keepsmiling and Mummyofprawn you've made my day! Very excited for my appt on Friday grin

JoCheshire10 Wed 03-Apr-13 17:23:55

Cream tea-completely agree, I had a BMI of about 21, I'd recently got fit for my wedding and now it's all gone a bit wobbly and can't help feeling people are secretly pleased as they are constantly commenting on my size. I haven't put much weight on and other than my tummy I am def smaller than some of them still..

Suppose we'll have to put up with this for a few months yet and then we'll have a lovely little person who'll make it all seem insignificant and make it all worthwhile smile

Least it's not just one of us and we're all getting the same

Creamtea1 Wed 03-Apr-13 17:57:13

Thanks Jo, you are right and it's a good job we have here to rant on! DH is sick of hearing about I think smile

In other less moany news smile I bought a pack of 3 sleepsuits today, only from asda - really cute white with grey stars, plain white, and a grey and white stripe. I'm only going to get bare few basics and then have a shopping spree after baby is born.
Steriliser kit arrived from amazon and it's a definite bargain!

Kittenkatzen Wed 03-Apr-13 19:09:18

Awww creamtea my mum went out and bought that pack of sleep suits from asda the day I told her our news! It's very cute.

I am shockshock at all the incredibly rude comments you've all been getting - I've had the odd "well you don't look pregnant" but nothing as blatant as you've all had!

Nothing much to report. I'm still full of cold and feeling sorry for myself. DH is buying me Chinese takeout tonight though so it's not all bad grin

Ooh and my Doppler arrived from amazon today, can't wait to try it out later!

frogchops Wed 03-Apr-13 19:11:40

My steriliser set turned up today! Very quick. Have ordered the book too but new from amazon, didnt think about used ones being cheaper! Baby brain!!

badguider Wed 03-Apr-13 19:36:50

Stupid question but what even is a steriliser? Do you not just soak stuff in Milton after washing?
(Really ignorant here as most people I know ebf but due to work i will need to express at about 3mo at the latest even if bf goes well)

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Wed 03-Apr-13 20:02:56

I had my 16 week appointment today (at 15+6) and the midwife said it was too early to listen to the heartbeat sad

I don't have another midwife appointment until 28 weeks! Do you think if I called next week they might see me just to let me listen? I thought it might be standard now until I saw all your comments. I was so disappointed.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Wed 03-Apr-13 20:05:42

badguider you can get electric sterilisers and the like, they use steam so no soaking and nice and quick. I had an electric one last time, I bf but pumped now and again so used to sterilise the pump and bottles from that.

frogchops Wed 03-Apr-13 20:40:17

That's rubbish!! I heard the heartbeat loud and clear at mine yesterday at 15+4!!

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Wed 03-Apr-13 20:46:13

I thought so! I'm so bad at standing up for myself and didn't even question it. I'm going to call, come on, be assertive red. I'd been excited about hearing it all week.

JoCheshire10 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:01:24

Good luck red, hope they let you

BinarySolo Wed 03-Apr-13 21:39:51

Thanks juniper! Only just got back on here.

PurplePoppySeed Wed 03-Apr-13 22:17:12

Great news frog smile

Another one with 16 week appointment this week too, can't wait!

Back on dresses - bad glad it isn't just me that couldn't post that link.. the Hobbs dress is a black and white stretchy thing, stupid website, DH says its good "urban pregnancy camouflage"  Lexy - I have that exact phase 8 dress too, bad-it's not as bad on the cleavage as you expect, I've got pretty huge noorks and it's ok without a vest, I'd find it too hot with extra layers.

Also glad im not the only one with nothing baby related yet smile

Kittenkatzen Wed 03-Apr-13 22:18:39

red that's rubbish, definitely have a winge about that. Or make puppy eyes st the sonographer at your 20wk scan! If you're in Sussex I'll pop round with my angel sounds if you like...just used it for the first time, it's ace grin

andadietcoke Thu 04-Apr-13 07:46:46

I have the same awesome mw as runningbear and at my 16w appt she found one twin and then gave up looking for the one with the anterior placenta after her batteries went in the Doppler. Didn't weigh me, in and out in 8 minutes. No more mw appts for me grin
Would have been more stressed but I had a 16w scan the day before so knew they were okay!

Really tempted by the angel sounds Doppler as it was so easy for her to find twin 1, but she didn't really give twin 2 a chance, and as I've said before I'd be a mess if I couldn't find one of them. Might do some googling... wink

Kittenkatzen Thu 04-Apr-13 08:14:21

It's £20 on amazon dietcoke smile

flipflump Thu 04-Apr-13 08:19:02

Red, definitely ask again. It's so worth it and reassuring. The 12 week scan was such a long time ago and the 20 week is still a few weeks off.

Has anyone had their 20 week yet? What was it like? Are the pictures amazing compared to 12 week? Anyone else nervous? I'm terrified I'm so attached to this little bean and they'll find something wrong.

ION I bought a great pair of jeans from Asda of all places. They are perfect for just now and stay up, they may become annoying as I expand. They are fairly slim leg, wouldnt go as far as calling them skinny, but I'm yet to find a pair of proper skinny jeans. The band is only at the front round to your hips, so from the back they look like normal jeans. Very comfy to boot!

fl0b0t Thu 04-Apr-13 11:29:58

Jammy sterling review there! I enjoyed it! Hope kimjayne does too!
badguider it's not a very long book so maybe you can get someone to send you their copy when they've finished??
emma my skin (which has never been great) has also flared up this week (boo).Doing all I can to limit the damage! My back and chest also flared up, looks like I'll be wearing polo necks all summer to hide!

Got my 16wk appt next week as my midwife is only in on Weds (helpful) and I had a course yesterday at work so couldn't make that week, I'll be 17+1 at that appt.

Amused to find that I mostly only look pregnant in maternity clothes! In normal clothes I look like a chubby little teenager (pot belly!)

kimjayne Thu 04-Apr-13 12:50:07

Cheers Fl0b0t - It will give me something to read on a few bus rides home from work and keep me entertained. Considering I only paid £1.80 I have no idea how slow the postage will be! ... fingers crossed it turns up before the baby smile
I am happy to send my copy onto Badguider if you struggle to grab a copy smile

weebarra Thu 04-Apr-13 13:18:28

Had my 16 week appointment today (at 17+5) and all fine. Mentioned the itchy feet so she's sent some bloods off, as it's apparently one of the signs of slapped cheek and there's a lot of it about.
Heard the heartbeat which is v reassuring given that I'm not really feeling movement, but baby was moving about a lot so hard for her to check how fast it was.
MW has got another job though, working with pg teenagers - she's very thorough and good so my loss will be their gain. Another appt at 22 weeks so will have had 20 week scan!

JammyTummy Thu 04-Apr-13 15:43:21

I don't get my 20 week scan till I'm 21 weeks... Hmmmph

Dorita75 Thu 04-Apr-13 17:21:58

Have you contacted the surgery/hospital red? That sounds really out of order.

I picked up my Emma's diary mum to be pack today. Full of the usual advertising blurb but also some lovely samples of cocoa butter stretchmark lotion and nivea firming lotion, my body will LOVE them!

Thanks for Asda jeans tip flip I'll have a look at those next time I'm there...

weebarra Thu 04-Apr-13 17:43:38

Me neither Jammy. MW phoned after my appointment today and cardiac scan is a week after my 20 (21) week scan so will see baby twice in a week. Kind of makes me wonder why they can't just do the cardiac scan at the same time.

SGJ Thu 04-Apr-13 20:09:05

Stupid chubby fingers!! Anyway...
In jeans news though, I have 2 lovely pairs of skinny jeans from Mothercare, one black and one pea green, both £20 each, under the bump, elastic all the way around, comfiest things ever. Would definitely recommend and I think they do them in denim and electric blue as well. Hooray!
20 week scan is a week tomorrow (12th) - do I have a scan buddy??

SGJ Thu 04-Apr-13 20:10:23

Oh, did the first half of that not post after all? Now I just look like I'm randomly ranting about having chubby fingers...

Kittenkatzen Thu 04-Apr-13 20:18:41

grin At your random chubby fingers SGJ!

Just to add to the jeans recs, I got some lovely soft over-bump skinnies for about £20 in H&M. I have them in grey but they had loads of colours (plan to pop back for the maroon at some point)

ION the dreaded itchy skin has returned - all over this time, argggh! Body butter not touching it, any suggestions??

Oh and I finally got brave enough to weigh myself yesterday - I've put on a little under half a stone so far at 17wks, which really surprised me (was convinced it would be closer to double that).

Hope everyone's having a nice evening. Chicken kievs in the oven for dinner - yum!

Creamtea1 Thu 04-Apr-13 21:21:35

Kitten can I ask what your bmi was pre preg? I've put on twice as much as you sad

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Thu 04-Apr-13 21:24:23

I'm going to call the midwives tomorrow as I'm at home. Really hoping they'll give me another appointment, 28 weeks is forever away. I want to hear my little baby's little heartbeat! Oh and midwife called me this morning and I'm anaemic so will start iron tomorrow and hope that will stop me feeling like falling asleep constantly!

jennimoo Thu 04-Apr-13 21:30:44

I've been super sleepy since stopped remembering my pregnacare tablets, could that be iron related? Probably illness and toddler related (potty training looks like it will have to be abandoned sad )

CharlW1 Thu 04-Apr-13 21:55:21

I'm in sunny Turkey for a week from tomorrow so just wanted to wish good luck to all those with scans next week and look forward to catching up in all the news when I get back smile

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Thu 04-Apr-13 22:03:37

It could be jennimoo. I've been really run down and was anaemic in previous pregnancy too so I asked them to test me.

Kittenkatzen Thu 04-Apr-13 22:04:22

creamtea my pre-preg bmi was 24/25 I think (I'm 5'10" and was just under 12st before Christmas). Not sure if that helps you or not? Don't be down though - we'll probably find that your weight gain eases off in the 2nd tri while mine ramps up!

charl have a lovely holiday!

kipsonline Thu 04-Apr-13 22:35:55

Cream tea I am posting to make you feel better! I finally weighed myself this morning. I have also put on 13lbs. I am 5ft6 and was 9.5 stone pre pregnancy so quite similar to you (3rd child too). I don't look bigger anywhere else but do have a proper baby bump. I think I was exactly the same in previous 2 pgs and seemed to get back to normal within 6 months each time with bf so am not overly worried. Hope that helps?!? X

Creamtea1 Thu 04-Apr-13 22:55:27

kips and kitten thank you thanks that does help with my stressing! smile kips especially I shall be stalking you from now on! I really struggled after 2nd preg to lose the weight, and piled on loads. Basically only got back to pre first preg weight this year - so it took 8 years nearly! Hence my complete obsessing blush
I have noticed this last 2 or 3 weeks that the rate of gain is slowing down and now the weather is sort of improving I've been out walking the dog etc a lot more, instead of just lying on the sofa feeling sick and eating crumpets smile

CheeseStrawCraving Fri 05-Apr-13 01:11:56

Is anybody else having majorly horrific lower back pain? Asked mw what to do, and she basically said nothing as by the time she refers me to physio I would have had the baby sad

Really disappointed with the mw in my part of the world. Just a quick rant... I know it's late but hoping one of you ladies might reassure me in the AM... Am 18 wks on Sunday, and had my 16wk appt with mw at 14+5 as was also transferring from another county. She said she would refer me to the hospital for 20wk scan. Haven't been able to get hold of mw for a few days so rang hospital directly to find out scan date and they'd never heard of me angry not only that but when she asked for my NHS number and couldn't find me it transpired that the mw had actually written it incorrectly in my notes! When I was found they had all my maiden name and address details so clearly they haven't heard anything from me since I was born in the same hospital 30 years ago! Anyone else experiencing incompetence? Just want my next scan date so I can sort work etc!

CheeseStrawCraving Fri 05-Apr-13 01:16:09

Creamtea re weight stuff, I have put on about 10lb (and that was the last time I weighed myself approx 3 weeks ago - dread to think where I am now). I am 5ft 10" and was approx BMI of 21 so I think this was near the bottom end of scale (no longer!) I seem to have developed muffin tops and just feel like I generally look larger all over sad. Am determined now I feel less tired to get my eating back on track to limit any more gain... No more cheese and marmite paninis for me then.... Night all

Belvedere Fri 05-Apr-13 06:35:45

Morning all
Just checking in as had my 20 week scan yesterday (at 19 weeks) all is well and it looks like in flying the blue flag! Had to have two scans in the end as baby would move in the right position and was in there for hours, but it was lovely to watch and all is well.
Good luck to everyone else, it really is lovely.
On another note, way too scared to weigh myself (blush)
And on a other one, I've been reading the jools oliver pregnancy book which is really good
(Smile)

flipflump Fri 05-Apr-13 07:08:59

CheeseStraw, I'm also suffering. Dreading getting larger and the bump getting heavier. It's only going to get worse. My midwife was a little more helpful, she suggested always sitting to put socks on, never stand on one leg. Mine is definitely worse if I've been over doing it, I'm going to stop lifting etc. I've also ordered a yoga DVD, the reviews say its was great for back strengthening. Also, after a busy day I find I'm worse if I sit on the sofa, so I now sit on my big ball instead, it really helps. If you find any solution please let me know. wink

Kittenkatzen Fri 05-Apr-13 07:43:54

thanks For the ladies with sore backs, hope you can find something that helps.

And yay for another blue bump!

One of my tracker apps remind me to do pelvic floor exercises today, so thought I'd pass the reminder on to you guys smile

georgie22 Fri 05-Apr-13 08:11:30

Hi all - not posted since my 12 week scan but keeping up with all the news. Great news about scan, frog.
For those with lower back / pelvic pain I have had similar problems this week (which I think has been partly self-inflicted due to my acrobatics climbing from driver to passenger seat in the car!). Saw midwife who said she would refer me to physio if things worsened. Been really careful trying to keep knees together getting in and out of car, sitting down to put trousers on etc. It is feeling better but midwife also said pelvic floor exercises will help too.
Anyway off to get my dd out of bed as I'm being summoned!! Have a great day everyone.

jennimoo Fri 05-Apr-13 08:18:36

All this talk of weight has eventually pushed me to stand on our scales, and I'm happy with half to 3/4 of a stone, thought it'd be way more!

My backs ok but hips are aching at night now.

weebarra Fri 05-Apr-13 08:30:32

Cheese straw - where I am (Edinburgh) they have a specialist preg physio who you can self refer to. I saw one last time and didn't have to wait long. Wonder if there's something similar where you arr?

Girraferama Fri 05-Apr-13 09:21:22

Hiya just chipping in to say my MW also gave me the number for as Obs/Gyn Physio that I can self-refer to, so perhaps look in to that? She also gave me a website which has a booklet about back pain during pregnancy, will post the address when I get home. The NHS site also has some advice if you search on it ('back pain in pregnancy') - with a couple of stretches/exercises. Hope this helps, will post more later when back at home.

jemimahpuddleduck Fri 05-Apr-13 09:27:18

Have a lovely holiday Charl I love turkey, only 6 weeks and I'll be there myself!

creamtea I may have mentioned to you before that I lost 2 stone last year and am also worried about a big weight gain to deal with. My stats are 5ft 5 and 8,13 pre pregnancy BMI of 20 put on 6lbs at Xmas and a further 8 since so now 9,13 so a stone in total feel a bit gutted but am trying to eat properly now I am feeling well again and it seems to be slowing down. I hope that makes you feel better flowers

JammyTummy Fri 05-Apr-13 09:34:08

Cheese would it be worth going to see a GP to ask for a referral? It really shouldn't take her that long she just sounds like a cow.
My MW told me that as I am quite small to expect really bad lower back (it is here! And it is bad!) as your stomach muscles don't just stretch but almost rotate outwards. I also get a horrible pain right at the very bottom tip of my spine if I sit on anything other than perfectly comfy!

Re yoga DVDs- I have the Tara Lee Pregnancy yoga DVD and can really recommend it. It's not an intensive exercise so would do it alongside something else, but it's really good for stretching and relaxing and great for relieving sore backs and bones! Plus preps you for birth.

Going to have a nose at the Jools Oliver book now, I quite like her!

RunningBear78 Fri 05-Apr-13 10:19:37

Creamtea & jemimah et al sharing your weight gain worries. I think I win/lose here, having put a total of 9kg (19lb) on in total. I'm 5ft 6in and weighed a healthy 57/58kg pre preg (bmi of around 20), and am now at 67kg as of this morning, and I'm only 16+5. Truly terrifying, looking quite squishy all over now, but without any real bump. When I mentioned my worries, our amazing (cough) midwife just gave me one of those slightly disapproving all over looks and said something like 'don't worry I'll tell you when I'm think you are getting really fat' not quite sure what to think of that. On the plus side, she did remind me that we increase our blood volume by about 50% so I'm hoping much of the weight is water/blood.

Have a go with Katy Appleton's yoga for pregnancy on You Tube, I've found them quite good for gentle stretching all over, and free!

fl0b0t Fri 05-Apr-13 10:59:43

I wouldn't worry about weight!

The important thing is trying to be as healthy as possible- weight is a number. We are all different going into this, different shapes, sizes, fitness levels, ages etc. Some of us will get lovely pert round bumps, some of us will just look chubby. Some of us will put on loads of weight, others won't!

Easy for me to currently say as I'm (still) below pre-pregnancy weight- but to be honest I'd rather be as big as a horse and not having had severe nausea and vomiting for 10 weeks.... but others would be gagging to be a lower weight than pre pregnancy!

I think like I said before- these forums are GREAT for allaying fears, chatting to others experiencing similar things but we're all too quick to compare and worry!

Eat well (where you can) and get some moderate exercise.... and you'll be fine!

JoCheshire10 Fri 05-Apr-13 11:14:29

Woke up this morning and bump had massively shrunk! Seems to happen about once a week and had a mini panic-especially due to my bleed about 10 days ago. But...had a MW apt today and heard the heartbeat grin was the most amazing sound and put my fears to rest.

The mw said that bumps may shrink due to lack of bloating and that they often don't know why people bleed sometimes but wasn't concerned. Just in case anyone is stressing about the same thing-seems to be another weird pregnancy thing but nothing unusual.

Happy Friday everyone smile

JammyTummy Fri 05-Apr-13 11:44:59

jo I can definitely back that, as yesterday I literally didn't stop eating, then had the biggest dinner followed by a pint sized cup of tea and my bump literally looked like it was ready to pop! I was sat on my sofa with my cup of tea sturdily sat on top of my tummy, but it was gone by the morning!

JammyTummy Fri 05-Apr-13 11:45:39

The huge bump that is... Not my cup of tea.

Creamtea1 Fri 05-Apr-13 12:09:35

Thanks for reassurance runningbear and jemimah thanks
It is good to know there's a few of us, as I really thought I was the exception! I weighed this morn and it's 7kg on for me at 18+1. Like you runningbear I just look larger/squishier all over - boobs have gone up 2 cup sizes and when I look down that's all I can see, boob! I'm hoping things harden up the next few weeks and we will be less squishy smile

RunningBear78 Fri 05-Apr-13 12:09:56

Cheshire & Jammy I think I've decided that most of my tummy growth and deflation has been wind and food, which is why the scans and doppler checks are so reassuring that there is a real live baby in there!

flo I know we shouldn't worry about weight, but I think it is some kind of ingrained worry. It is good to be reassured about the variety of peoples experiences though, and know we're all special in our own way smile

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Fri 05-Apr-13 12:22:29

I'm not getting on the scales and no-one can me.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Fri 05-Apr-13 12:23:16

Make me.

fl0b0t Fri 05-Apr-13 13:27:45

redandyellow - good attitude smile

badguider Fri 05-Apr-13 13:54:06

I'm fascinated by my weight gain but not too worried - I'm a little bit worried about being too heavy to move at 35-40 weeks but I'm not worried about losing it afterwards as I can't wait to get back to proper exercise and have practically signed up for buggy boot camp already (god i miss running and biking really hard!).

Anyway, I put on 4kg before my booking in appt and just another 2 since then.

My book says that we should expect to have gained about 6kg by now so that's just right.

badguider Fri 05-Apr-13 13:56:46

6kg is 13.3lbs by the way so anybody who has gained less than a stone is perfectly on track for healthy gain grin

HettySunshine Fri 05-Apr-13 15:56:37

I'm not too worried about weight gain at the moment. I'm 5'10 and I was pretty slim to start with so can put plenty on before I need to start fretting about it.

Just leaves more time for worrying about everything else!

KamikazeeKid Fri 05-Apr-13 16:02:19

Gosh I put on 7lbs but had put on more than thst during first trimester during my eat to cure nausea stage but have lost a few lbs since eating normally again....however my BMI is a LOT higher than all those mentioned that im too embarrassed to admit now.....I do think whoever said not to obsess over weight in pregnancy is right...now is not the time! Worry about that post birth but when bf I had the worst raging hunger!

I've had the worst day with ds who is around 20months and after his public meltdown I melted down as I have no idea how I am going to cope with 2 young ones...I know you just do but am in a bad place figuring how I will!!!!

Def not a good Friday this week!

KamikazeeKid Fri 05-Apr-13 16:04:31

...and just to let me know bubs is there....he/she has spent the entire day kicking me in the fanjo....

jennimoo Fri 05-Apr-13 16:15:17

Kamikazee - i know what you mean...I got all upset yesterday as DD wouldn't nap and potty training has been a disaster so I was thinking 'what am I doing having another?' Then felt guilty in case some thing goes wrong sad

Hoping that Mondays scan and finding out what I'm having will help me feel better!

weebarra Fri 05-Apr-13 16:25:01

I haven't really put on anything, maybe a couple of pounds. However, my BMI was a lot higher than anyone has mentioned so far. I also had an addiction to CocaCola (not diet!), which I have finally managed to kick, so that probably explains why I haven't put on any more weight.

WhizzsMum Fri 05-Apr-13 20:46:57

Hi ladies, not posted for weeks as we moved and were without broadband. Rather frustrating.
The 12 week scan went well, only cooking the one! Having a 16 week scan next wed as the consultant believes I have an incompetent cervix!! How dare I? I did ask was that the most medical term for it?! DD aged 4 is very excited about coming to the scan smile
RE weight gain, I'm only 16 weeks and some of my maternity clothes I was wearing at 6months+ last time are not fitting now. My pre preg weight this time was lower than last. Not worried though, just very excited that people can tell I'm pregnant! smile
Lovely to be back on here and catching up with everyone again.

SGJ Fri 05-Apr-13 21:04:24

Jemimah - one good thing about your 2 stone weight loss - my weight with DD was the same as yours (though I'm shorter) and like you I'd lost 2 stone before getting pregnant. When I naturally put on weight with DD (about 2 stone in total, I think) I was apprehensive just like you, but lost it all within the 9 months following the birth, and what's even better, having been 2 stone heavier in the past, I didn't get a single stretch mark! NOT A SINGLE ONE! I'm sure it's down to being a bit squishy previously so basically I guess I'm saying, don't fret, sounds like you're right on track and all the weight will disappear again in time. smile

Dorita75 Sat 06-Apr-13 07:47:27

I'm with you red and I don't even own a set of scales. It's my first baby and my weight is the one thing I'm relaxed about!!

JammyTummy Sat 06-Apr-13 10:50:34

Does anybody know if there is anything at all we can take for hayfever? Eyes are killing me!

jennimoo Sat 06-Apr-13 11:03:38

Doctor prescribed me a nasal spray last time, so worth making an appointment on Monday. I doubt chemist can help...

Creamtea1 Sat 06-Apr-13 12:50:53

I've seen a new nasal spray advertised called Prevaline, it looks quite good (for hay fever) - should be able to get that from the chemist?

juniper9 Sat 06-Apr-13 12:55:10

Clarityn is safe in pregnancy.

fl0b0t Sat 06-Apr-13 15:45:52

D'oh my hayfever hasn't started yet but I think my anti-sickness drugs are antihistamines also :-)

JoCheshire10 Sat 06-Apr-13 16:04:48

Jammy-I have bad hay fever, but thankfully not too bad so far... MW told me there is a brand we can take - think its Piriton, but may well be Clariton as suggested by Jammy, worth checking with Pharmacist

JammyTummy Sat 06-Apr-13 16:17:09

Will have a look at Clarityn thanks! I bought piriteze earlier And didn't see anything on it- till after I paid for it, at closer inspection. Silly.

juniper9 Sat 06-Apr-13 16:47:45

From the nhs website

If you're pregnant and feel that you need antihistamines, or you're advised to take them by your GP, loratadine or chlorphenamine are the antihistamines that considered the safest to use.
However, chlorphenamine is a first-generation antihistamine, so it may make you feel drowsy.
If you can't take loratadine or chlorphenamine, your GP may recommend another oral antihistamine called cetirizine. Cetirizine is also considered safe to use during pregnancy

LexyMa Sat 06-Apr-13 20:25:06

I get hayfever usually but (bizarrely I think, given that I am more highly sensitive to smell when pregnant) I didn't seem to get many symptoms at all in my first pregnancy. If I do, loratidine doesn't seem to work for me so I go straight to cetirizine. But always remember it's a cumulative drug so you can't just pop one when your eyes water, you have to take it every day and build it up.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Sat 06-Apr-13 21:04:58

Re the midwife not listening for heartbeat. I called her and she said that the Nice guidelines say not to before 20 weeks now and if she hadn't been able to find anything she couldn't refer me anyway. Seems bizarre compared to everyone else's experience. Anyway she's agreed that at 20 weeks I can have an appointment to listen to the heart so that's good. I borrowed a monitor thingy from a friend but can't find anything with it but it hasn't worried me, will keep trying!

badguider Sat 06-Apr-13 21:35:15

heartburn HELL here today sadangry

couldn't even enjoy a cup of tea let alone food all day today.

Manoodledo Sat 06-Apr-13 22:11:08

My midwife also told me that she wasn't supposed to listen for the heartbeat before 20 weeks in case they weren't able to find it and freaked people out, but said if I wasn't put off by that possiblility she would do it, which she did.

ION, DS1 (aged 6) really made me laugh today. He goes through phases of asking me endless questions about the baby and I ended up trying to explain that the baby has everything it needs inside me and he said 'A torch?'. Ha ha, that would be useful I'm sure. He also asked me if the baby knows where it is and we had an interesting conversation about early thought processes. Deep!

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Sat 06-Apr-13 23:05:19

Is anyone anaemic this early? I've been taking iron tablets for two days and swear I feel better already!

JoCheshire10 Sun 07-Apr-13 07:24:34

Morning everyone-can anyone recommend a good baby book? Had a look on amazon and I've seen Jo Frosts book but no idea if it will be useful or not... Does anyone have any recommendations? smile

andadietcoke Sun 07-Apr-13 07:48:47

redandyellow I started taking 200mg a day of ferrous sulphate after I fainted and have had a lot more energy. Am starting to feel like I should rattle when I walk though...

jennimoo Sun 07-Apr-13 08:25:49

Just about over my second (or 3rd!!??) bout of flu and have felt quite well for a whole day. This morning DD seems to have chicken pox, so I expect that even if I go alone the hospital won't want me having my 20 week scan tomorrow sad

Manoodledo Sun 07-Apr-13 08:59:24

oh no Jennimoo! Nightmare. Hope DD isn't too miserable. I've caught the DSs cold and feel achey all over, and going on holiday tomorrow, where according to the forecast i've just checked it will be raining non-stop for at least three of the six days we are there. Great!

jennimoo Sun 07-Apr-13 09:26:44

DDs fine at the mo, just a little hot, do hopefully wont feel too bad. Nearly got her the vaccine a few months back...

Just got to rearrange scan and work. Was so looking forward to seeing the baby and finding out which it was, as need cheering up and hoping that (and if its s boy the associated shopping for an outfit!) would help me feel less terrified about the prospect of DC2! (Even though we were trying for 6 months...)

jennimoo Sun 07-Apr-13 09:44:07

The hospital say I can go alone to scan as very little risk to others but DH really wants to come too... I'm exactly 20 weeks tomorrow. Does anyone know what the window is for the '20 week' scan if we postpone?

weebarra Sun 07-Apr-13 09:49:15

I'm having mine at 21+5 so that's within the window, not sure what the upper limit is though. Hope DD is feeling ok.

Girraferama Sun 07-Apr-13 10:27:22

Hey Jo I bought 'first time parent' by Lucy Atkins last week and really enjoying it. Can't remember if you are a first timer but id definitely recommend it - really practical and not patronising at all. You can have a sneak peek of contents etc on Amazon.

EmmaDee Sun 07-Apr-13 11:31:57

Morning all, hope your having a good weekend, and the cold/flu/chicken pox symptoms aren't too bad!

Random question, I've been having weird twinges in my lady bits, is this normal? I'm 16 weeks tomorrow?

jennimoo Sun 07-Apr-13 12:35:34

Hello. DD seems fine so far. Am going to scan as DHs parents are travelling down to help out smile

And Emma I know what you mean, I think my baby kicks in that direction sometimes, had whole days of funny feelings down there!

EmmaDee Sun 07-Apr-13 12:57:33

Cheers, but is the baby really that far down!?

Fozziebearmum2b Sun 07-Apr-13 13:53:47

Thanks Girafferama-will take a look grin

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Sun 07-Apr-13 14:18:18

jocheshire I hated the Jo Frost one. I threw it across the room in temper once. I like "what to expect in the first year".

weebarra Sun 07-Apr-13 14:52:44

I liked "what to expect..." as well.

Eeeknumber3 Sun 07-Apr-13 16:04:19

Hello all, just catching up, been in Devon for a week with kids and DH, where it was bloody freezing! I had a lot of squirmy type feelings for a few weeks, now at 16 weeks I haven't felt anything for well over a week, am panicking, is that normal?! Help!

HettySunshine Sun 07-Apr-13 16:09:37

Eeek - I am 17+2 and I haven't felt any movements yet. I think it very much depends on how the baby is lying. Have you had your 16 week appointment yet? Mine's tomorrow, I'm hoping that we'll hear the heartbeat and then I can relax!

badguider Sun 07-Apr-13 16:23:34

I'm 18+4 and not felt anything yet.
Is it your first? Firsts are not usually felt till 18-20wks.

Eeeknumber3 Sun 07-Apr-13 16:45:44

Thanks ladies, no its my 3rd, just have a bit of a sinking feeling about it. Had a lot of movement early in week 15 and 14, then nothing. Maybe bubs has moved? Have midwife appt on Wednesday, so will get her to listen in. All my symptoms disappeared around the same time,but guess that is more to do with second trimester...

Eeeknumber3 Sun 07-Apr-13 16:47:11

Also have chronic sinusitis, have never had this in pregnancy before, it's horrible!

jennimoo Sun 07-Apr-13 17:18:31

Eek- I definitely had periods of feeling a lot less movement around my 16 week midwife appointment, I remember being very glad they listened for the HB. All is well so I expect its common to feel less at times depending which way baby is lying.
I reckon if you say you're concerned they'd definitely listen tomorrow though.

andadietcoke Sun 07-Apr-13 18:07:58

Mine's come and gone. Can feel at least one of them most nights but sometimes not for a couple of days. I have one anterior placenta and one posterior placenta, and one baby is cephalic and one transverse so their feet are both in the same place(ish) so I have no idea which one I can feel!!

kipsonline Sun 07-Apr-13 18:51:44

My baby movements have def come and gone too, some days lots then nothing for a few days...
I also liked what to expect... And i highly recommend a small book called your baby week by week by Simone cave. It's a v simplified wk by wk guide, but I must have lent it out about 10 times and everyone has ended up using it the most for a quick check each wk - I used to keep it near the loo!
We moved the boys into our old room this weekend, in bunks (step 1 of baby prep). We painted a space themed room and moved in a load of their toys, they are ridiculously excited, am not sure when they will actually sleep??!

JammyTummy Sun 07-Apr-13 19:28:59

I'm glad people are having on off movements! I felt buba kick the first time about two weeks ago (I'm 18+5 now, so it was quite early) and felt it very day since, but some days much much less than others. Reassured by everybody else's experiences!

I bought the Mumsnet baby book which I'm about half way through now, and I'm really liking it. It's quite like a rough guide, and packed full of other mums advice. In that this is my first baby, I was worried I was going to bring it home and spend a long time staring at it having no idea what to do next, so this is giving me a good rough outline without giving too much bossy 'instruction manual' type advice you get in other books.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Sun 07-Apr-13 19:33:21

I haven't felt a thing and I'm 16 weeks with my second.

Keepsmilingsunshine Sun 07-Apr-13 19:55:46

Hope your DD is feeling ok Jennimo and your scan goes well tomorrow.

I loved 'what to expect..' with DC, but sadly it was one of the items that I lent and was never returned.

Feeling some definite movement finally [17+2]. I think I have for a couple weeks but only when sitting and I wasn't too sure, but now defiantly baby flutters most days. grin Does anyone have any idea when they might start to become stronger?

Creamtea1 Sun 07-Apr-13 20:21:45

I'm 18+3 and only felt a definite something yesterday. This is my third so fairly sure it was baby - however not a peep out of him/her since!

WhizzsMum Sun 07-Apr-13 20:37:37

Hi ladies, I'm 16+2 and I can only feel movement when I'm completely relaxed and still, generally just before I fall asleep at night. DH is very frustrated, he is desperate to feel it too. Said I was happy to kick him just before he falls asleep each night if that helped!
Has anyone had incompetent cervix before? I have braxton hicks already plus very achy lady bits and wondered if they were linked and signs of cervix not holding out for whole pg.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Sun 07-Apr-13 20:56:18

With my first pregnancy I didn't get a proper kick or thump until I was about 22 weeks! There were movements before but I remember clearly the first proper kick.

jennimoo Sun 07-Apr-13 21:23:28

I felt movement super early first time (13weeks) but I think that having lost a bit of weight and having non-existent tummy muscles really helped. If you aren't feeling much til late you probably just have a lovely toned tummy ;)

DD seems fine so far with the pox although the spots are appearing so fast! She has dozens already, but is sleeping fine so far and doesn't seem to ill with it.

Excited / nervous about scan tomorrow, 9:45am. Anyone else got theirs tomorrow?

RunningBear78 Mon 08-Apr-13 09:21:26

emma I went for a bike ride yesterday and ever since have been getting twinges too, like quick stabbing pians? Is that what you have, doesn't feel like the baby flutters I have now and then ... Bit worried. Any idea what they might be?

frogchops Mon 08-Apr-13 09:29:19

Good luck with scan jennimoo....
Running, I get those....and I've been no where near a bike!

EmmaDee Mon 08-Apr-13 10:34:02

Runningbear, frog, yeah they seem to be worse when I'm standing, I havemt been on a bike in years!!

I went out for dinner last night and after stuffing myself they seemed to get worse and the bottom of my spine was sore!

I have a mw appointment on Wednesday morning, so hopefully she can shed some light, keep googling stuff and freaking myself out! What's spd, could it be that?

fl0b0t Mon 08-Apr-13 10:56:12

runningbear- It's unlikely it's linked to riding the bike unless you've not ridden much recently? I've been riding and no funny feelings.

I laughed a lot on Saturday night and had a very sore lower abdomen when I went to bed! sad

Things looking up here, feeling a bit less sick, got a funny round bump and got a little more energy smile

andadietcoke Mon 08-Apr-13 11:25:52

emma spd is when your pelvis separates. It's more likely to be round ligament pain. I've had stabby pains, aches and back ache and they normally precede a growth spurt - had them Friday and Saturday and by today I'm sporting some lovely stretch marks hmm

Call your mw if you're worried, but for me what you describe is normal, and has been happening throughout the three scans I've had since 12w.

Keepsmilingsunshine Mon 08-Apr-13 11:31:27

Random question, for some reason I awoke at 3am thinking about this and then didn't get back to sleep until gone 4! When I had DC1 I read that the safest place to seat them in the back behind the passenger seat. Now that DC2 is on the way does DC1 get moved over to behind the driver and DC2 take the safest spot or do you put the baby in the safer car seat behind the driver and leave DC1 in the more vulnerable car seat where he is?

jennimoo Mon 08-Apr-13 13:15:53

Keep smiling - I've never heard that, DD was always behind drivers seat...

Scan was all good, DD is getting a baby brother! Brought years to my eyes as I suddenly got the image of the 4 of us...

jennimoo Mon 08-Apr-13 13:16:09

Years! Tears...

kipsonline Mon 08-Apr-13 13:20:29

Hurrah lovely news jenni and hope the bugs all disappear too now...

JammyTummy Mon 08-Apr-13 13:47:25

Aww congrats Jenni!

Woman on Radio 2 going on about how Mumsnet is evil... I for one love my Mumsnet!

HettySunshine Mon 08-Apr-13 13:57:21

I had my 16 week appointment today (at 17+3) and heard littley's little heart beat. It was amazing! All is well and less than 3 weeks to my scan! Woop grin

jennimoo Mon 08-Apr-13 14:56:27

I love MN too. The support is invaluable and it's pretty easy to keep out of any nastiness. Especially in those first few weeks being pg when you're supposed to keep it secret.

LexyMa Mon 08-Apr-13 15:03:13

Bloke at work just told me that three years ago when his wife had 20w scan at Watford General they wouldn't tell them the sex, because they had a significant concern that in the local area people might abort girls sad. I wonder if it's still the case... either I will find out tomorrow or I could crash the August thread and ask if any of them are Watford mums-to-be who know...?!

This weekend we got to the bottom of why DS (3y 7m) wants to call his baby brother OR sister 'James'... it's nothing to do with tank engines, it's because he loves James May. Yes, him off Top Gear shock blush angry hmm

DH found this utterly hilarious and having already agreed with DS that 'James' is a good name, is now voting for 'May' if it's a girl. He will get a slap at least if he says that when I'm in labour...

Keepsmilingsunshine Mon 08-Apr-13 15:19:18

Huge congratulations Jenni smile.

That made me laugh so much Lexy grin. As for the scan, you could always give them a quick call?

Glad your apt with the MW went well Hetty we must have the same due date. When is your scan booked for?

smileattherain Mon 08-Apr-13 15:23:17

Hello, please can I join in, if I'm not too late! Been lurking for ages just trying to pluck up the courage to post...am 18 weeks today with DC2, looking forward to 20 week scan in a couple of weeks and hoping morning sickness might decide to leave me alone soon!

juniper9 Mon 08-Apr-13 15:58:49

Has anyone had their 20 week scan yet? I'm right at the end of September so always on the tail end of everything... can't remember how far along the furthest person is! Is anyone here more than 19 weeks?

JammyTummy Mon 08-Apr-13 16:03:20

Welcome smile!

I honestly think I might've driven myself crazy in the first few days/ weeks of knowing I was pregnant if it wasnt for mumsnet- it's such a terrifying time when it's your first and you cannot tell a soul!

shock @ Watford story! Is that really true?!

kipsonline Mon 08-Apr-13 16:33:26

My friend lived in Bradford when she had her 2 DC and it was def true there then (not sure now)- no gender reveal allowed in case of girl related abortions. Awful.

LexyMa Mon 08-Apr-13 16:45:04

juniper it's me and kips with the first 20w scans I think - tomorrow!!

When I had DS I was in NW London, and my hospital trust didn't even send out 20w scan dates as standard, you had to ask specifically. The reason I was given (by sonographer / hosp MW was that there were Brethren/LDS in the area who wouldn't want to know (i.e. pre-empt God's will) about the conditions looked for. shock

badguider Mon 08-Apr-13 16:49:41

Hi,

MW appt today at 18+4 and heard the heartbeat (150bpm) which was great as I don't have any movements or much of a bump yet.

Scan on 24th April.. just two weeks and two days till we can stop calling it 'it'. smile

MeanMrsMustard Mon 08-Apr-13 16:51:35

Just popping by to give a chilled out wave from Barbados. I'm currently relaxing on the balcony watching the sea (and mumsnetting, of course).

It's lovely catching up on scan news. So pleased for everyone that it's all been good news.
I am 20 weeks tomorrow. I'm still not sure If I've felt movement. I think I can (mainly when I'm lying down), but can't be certain it's baby not anything else. My scan is a week today so I have something to look forward to once my holiday is over.

I started off convinced I was having a boy, but now feeling more uncertain about it. Where as I used to have lots of 'boy symptoms' they seem to be being taken over by 'girl symptoms' now! Obviously I'm taking it all with a pinch of salt, but the weight is definately going everywhere now, and I'm hairier than I realised! (I had probably managed to avoid noticing these two things when at home in the cold. It is more apparent here!)

I am going to have to try and slow down my weight gain though. It must be nearing the top of the recommended gain for my height/starting weight at 20 wks. I'd been on a diet before bfp, and was finally managing to lose my non smoking weight. I guess there was little hope for me going from dieter to carb muncher in the space of about 3 weeks! I will have to question my food choices more thoroughly when I get home.

I've heard quite a few hospitals don't tell the sex for that reason. It is quite scary isn't it! I seem to remember slough and Ealing being mentioned.

Glad things seem to be going smoothly for everyone. Good luck with the next flurry of scans.

BinarySolo Mon 08-Apr-13 16:53:17

Yep I've heard of hospitals having a policy of not revealing the sex due to abortion of girls.

Made a cake today. Would it be very wrong of me to have a second slice?

Creamtea1 Mon 08-Apr-13 17:16:53

binary I order you to eat the cake smile

kips looking forward to scan news tomorrow - are you going to find out? I was with some friends yesterday and they are all convinced I am going to find out the sex because of having the 2 boys already hmm

As its been a while, in more ways than one, let's talk about poo - tomorrow will be day 8 of 'no movement' in the bowel front! I thought I was over that problem...

JammyTummy Mon 08-Apr-13 17:41:09

My Jools Oliver book just arrived! DH is out tonight so I'm going to get myself on the sofa, put my feet up and have some quality book time, with probably some cake involved somewhere!

HettySunshine Mon 08-Apr-13 18:11:59

Keepsmiling - how lovely to be due date buddies. My scan is on 26 April so exactly 20 weeks - I can't believe we're nearly half way through! smile

Btw, when we were listening to the heartbeat my midwife said 'now, does that sound like a train or a horse.' We said a train and she said 'ah, a boy then!'

She was joking of course but i wondered if anyone else had heard that one?

kipsonline Mon 08-Apr-13 18:15:59

Thank you Creamtea. I think we are, as DH and DSs want to, even though I'd rather not. I'm tying myself up in knots a bit about how to tell people if we do find out as i really don't want people to think/assume we'd be disappointed with another DS. I guess I'll have to face it either way, just a bit harder for people to make inappropriate comments when the DC has actually arrived. Maybe? Am also worried about the potential ill effects of some of my scarier lupus drugs. Deep breaths. It'll be fine.

kipsonline Mon 08-Apr-13 18:17:04

Oooh and 8 days????? Yeeouch

fl0b0t Mon 08-Apr-13 18:22:15

8 days creamtea?! ouch! Whats your diet like? I assume you're trying to get a nice balanced diet with lots of fibre and fruit/veg etc? /me gives you a stern look!

kips do whatever YOU want to- it's your baby! I hate the concept of disappointment about the gender- and yes it's definitely harder to make comments when baby has arrived. Our exact reason for not finding out the gender or telling anyone. People are bonkers (rude!) to think it's ok to suggest that you'd be disappointed with one gender or another. FIL (who is usually ok, just a bit thoughtless) has already "requested" a grandson hmm. Yeah, cos it's that easy....

Hello Ladies,

Been following along with your posts but too low & tired to get involved! Cold is finally starting to let up (tho my sinuses are still blocked), but I am constantly exhausted at the moment. Having plenty of sleep but just can't shake off the exhaustion :-(

Anyways, I'm trying to look on the bright side as am 16weeks today so just 5 months to go! Also, it looks like I'm not flying for 6 weeks....considering baby has averaged 1 flight a week since conception this is amazing news....may even help me feel less exhausted!

On the clothes front, I've now got a collection of dresses from Seraphine, m&p, boden & my mum's eBay hunting....still think I look a bit scruffy but I guess stretchy things will never look that smart. Top tip on Seraphine....John Lewis stock a fairly decent range & ship for free so it's worth checking there before you buy direct.

After a conversation with the hubby last week where I gave him a verbal run down of my baby shopping list, to be met with comments such as 'we've already got a bath, why do we need another one for the baby?' and 'I thought baby's sat in the front of the car' when discussing ISO fix bases I have now invested in a book called 'What to buy for your baby' from Amazon. It's really good, very down to earth and practical- should help me win over the husband, and reassure me that I do need certain items, and definitely don't need others.

Lexy re: Watford sex scans, in Asian areas they tend to have a policy against telling the sex in case of abortion. My boss was Milton Keynes and it applied there as well- but I think if you come across in the right way then the sonographer may take pity on you (he's very white middle class & managed to find out). I'm in Surrey & the 12 week scan letter actually says that you will be able to ask the sex at the 20 week.

No baby movements for me yet :-( but tummy is still growing (am poss even getting the start of some stretch marks!!!)....

Creamtea1 Mon 08-Apr-13 19:03:46

smile flo promise it's been good! Consciously trying to keep things moving so things like raisin shredded wheat for breakfast (couple of porridge days too), whole meal bread only if having bread, mega helping of spinach with home made curry on sat night, big glass of fresh orange or apple each day, tea as hot as I can drink it in the mornings...I'm running out of things now, actimel in there too!!
I'm going to come out the other side 2lbs lighter for sure! grin

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Mon 08-Apr-13 20:15:11

creamtea opposite problem here - four poos today! I swear it's the iron tablets. I'm not surprised I'm knackered from all that going up and down the stairs.

kimjayne Mon 08-Apr-13 21:13:08

Is anyone else watching bbc 3? "don't just stand there, Im having your baby" is partly filmed at my local hospital tonight!

Creamtea1 Mon 08-Apr-13 21:19:13

Ha ha red !
<dreams of the nirvana of a four poo day...>

LexyMa Mon 08-Apr-13 22:00:22

Well I have just been to Pilates class. That was interesting... Baby enjoyed the shoulder bridge position in particular, it was his/her cue to start a little foetus Zumba session in there.

I'm perfectly happy with not knowing the sex at the scan - just told DH about Watford not telling, and he said well that settles it then, no worries. We aren't bothered enough to pay for a private scan. Unfortunately, DH won't be able to be there with me tmrw which is a shame but unavoidable.

JammyTummy Mon 08-Apr-13 22:35:54

My baby is dancing around tonight too! I had a bath earlier, and felt such a big kick (although I reckon it was a flip) it actually made the water ripple! DH might be getting some bump cuddles soon!

Whoever recommended Jools Oliver book- I'm really loving it,
such a nice book!

kimjayne Tue 09-Apr-13 09:17:21

right, this might sound strange but has anyone else started experiencing a pulse/heartbeat noise (quite loudly) in their left ear? Or either ear really? I have had it constantly now for over 2 weeks and have read online that this is another symptom of pregnancy. I have tried my best to ignore it but it's driving me mad.

Has anyone else had this?

CheeseStrawCraving Tue 09-Apr-13 10:46:50

Thanks for back advice peeps, whoever mentioned sitting down to put socks on etc, that really is helping! Also stopping with the heavy lifting has helped...

ION still waiting for scan date, despite chasing (am 18+2 today) - good job I'm self-employed or there's no way I'd be able to organise time off when the date finally comes through!

Also, have purchased Jools Oliver on my ipad, am also really enjoying it, thanks for the tip! For other first timers, a friend who had her first in Nov has recommended 'what to expect when you're expecting' as a rough guide that she found useful.... Will let you know what I think, anyone else read this one?

Hope you're all having a great day!

kipsonline Tue 09-Apr-13 11:04:23

So, 20 wk scan was fine, although still waiting in a v hot clinic for all my varied checks... The baby proved to be a little camera shy, shielding his/her face from the paparazzi and absolutely refusing to open his/her legs, so we are none the wiser!! Couldn't get a proper head view either so will need to be rescanned in a couple of weeks. Bonus!

Cheese I've got 'What to Expect' but am not that keen on it to be honest. It doesn't really seem to say much, it's mostly q&a e.g. 'I feel dizzy, what does it mean?' 'now that I'm getting bigger I suddenly feel scared' etc etc

Maybe I've been spoilt but I think our little group on mumsnet probably does a more thorough job of addressing all these little niggles! Was probably a great book before the days of the internet....

BTW have now ploughed through a good few sections of the 'What to Buy for your Baby' book & it really is brilliant. They go through item by item and give an opinion on whether you need it or not, whether it's worth paying top dollar for the best item & also recommending specific products where relevant.

Book in one hand, pen & paper in the other & ipad in between to google pricing/stockists etc!

JammyTummy Tue 09-Apr-13 14:12:58

Just read an article which reminded me, and now I am reminding you (because if you're in any way like me you never remember)- do your pelvic floor exercises today!

Creamtea1 Tue 09-Apr-13 14:14:42

Drum roll......the eagle has landed and it was painful!

have also managed to put on 4 lb in 11 days hmm and that's supposedly being good...anyone know if somewhere between week 18 and 20 we get a growth spurt? As bump has suddenly popped this week so did suspect a spurt!

JammyTummy Tue 09-Apr-13 14:25:59

Creamtea my baby app tells me that your baby grows in size six-fold from when it is 18 weeks, so sounds about right!

LCR77 Tue 09-Apr-13 14:31:06

On the subject of good books I'd highly recommend the Rough Guide to Pregnancy by Kaz Cooke. It's really thorough and also very amusing and sectioned week by week including a handy ruler guide for size of the baby on that week.

LexyMa Tue 09-Apr-13 14:35:58

Creamtea, about that 4lb... did you weigh yourself before or after the, er, eagle landed? smile

in scan waiting room now...

Creamtea1 Tue 09-Apr-13 14:40:06

Arrgh lexy it was after!
Thanks jammy for the growth info - literally noticed since last week the bump seems to have doubled.
Am I going to seem like a nutter if I ask midwife at next appt re gestational diabetes as I'm now at 19lbs on in 19 weeks..I am admittedly thirsty all the time, my craving has been cold drinks of any sort - I've been watching what I eat since I stopped feeling sick about a month or so ago.

EmmaDee Tue 09-Apr-13 14:51:41

I just ordered the mumsnet book, I wanted something that was funny and informative so hopefully it'll do the job. Then later on I'll buy something birth related! Dont wanna scare myself this early on!!

Anyone get a bout of crazy tiredness on the 16th week? As well as my mental pains in the pelvis/lady area, I feel the need to sleep for a week.

Last night I got in from work and had a wee dose, woke for dinner then fell asleep again from 8.30 right through to after 7.30 this morning!!! Is this normal??

LexyMa Tue 09-Apr-13 15:48:03

Emma I was tired until about 18 weeks I think, only just realised the other day that I'm not so completely shattered when I get home any more, although I do struggle to get out of bed in the morning still (might be more to do with boring boring work at the moment though!!). I've been taking 200mg ferrous sulphate every other day because I'm prone to anaemia, and I think it helps keep my energy up, indirectly.

Well I have had the 20w scan, it was fantastic to see all the bits of anatomy... And I could have found out the sex after all, but I decided not to. Same as in the 12w scan "this is a very active baby" was commented on... Uh-oh!!! Do we have a little wriggly handful coming?! Or was it the bag of haribo I ate in the car on the way there Saw all the chambers of the heart in great working order, she pointed out everything from the head circumference to the two kidneys to the existence of two feet at the ends of two legs (?!?), and jabbed me quite viciously in the tum when baby got bored of performing. Head is down, placenta anterior, femur length and head circumference are just under average, but abdominal circumference just over the 50th centile. And I got my notes back, finally, so I can see the full blood results.

jennimoo Tue 09-Apr-13 15:51:26

Emma - I'm rired again the last few weeks. So want to close my eyes right now...

On books I found what to expect when you're expecting useful first time around and was pleased DH could read the page on delivering a baby in an emergency! It was quite American though, although they may have updated it. I liked the mumsnet pregnancy one and DH read it, but if you've been loitering on the forums a while you might not find much of it new. I have the mumsnet babies one but don't think I read much of it...

WhizzsMum Tue 09-Apr-13 17:21:20

Emma I too am still feeling very tired at 16+4, having read today's posts though I have realised I've not taken my daily (sometimes twice daily) spatone iron supplement for almost 2 weeks. Have started again today and hopefully I'll feel better again in a couple of days. I have found it makes a big difference to fatigue levels.

ION I have a 16 weeks scan tomorrow to see what condition my cervix is in. Have googled incompetent cervix and wish I hadn't!! Oh the dangers of being able to google everything hmm

KamikazeeKid Tue 09-Apr-13 19:07:04

Show of hands please...anyone else stillnot announced pregnancy yet? I'll be 20 weeks Monday (scan Tuesday) and still not come out! !! This is due to work issues...

Anyway....I seem to have gone to sleep fat last night and woken pregnant!! The bump has arrived and very hard to hide.

Dorita75 Tue 09-Apr-13 19:18:36

Kamikazee how have you not told anyone?! Or do you just mean work? I'd be bursting if I'd not told anyone by now grin

Emma I've started getting pokey feelings in my lady bits the last 2 days. Feels like someone poking the boney pubic area?? Is that what you've had? I'm also still feeling pretty tired. I have had more energy and am less likely to collapse on the couch at 7pm, going to bed 9 rather than 8 but still feel tired all evening. I wake around 6:15 which is fine, feeling full of beans!

EmmaDee Tue 09-Apr-13 19:35:54

Thanks dorita,whizzmums,jenni for the reassurance, glad its not just me in the totally knackered camp!

Also realised I haven't been taking my vitamins as regularly as I should, as it says to take them with main meal! Do you think that really matters?

Kamikazi how on earth have u kept it to yourself?

EmmaDee Tue 09-Apr-13 19:44:35

Ooh and lexy!

jennimoo Tue 09-Apr-13 19:49:30

I'm going to start taking the pregnacare again in case it helps. Really tired and I think that and slight work stress is causing the queasiness to return. Really need to not worry about work, only about 3 months til I finish smile

frogchops Tue 09-Apr-13 20:02:17

Am shocked kami had not told anyone....mainly due to the size of my bump and how obvious it was at 8 weeks!! Am 16+4 today and massive! Went for blood test today and the woman next to me was smaller than me and was 28 weeks! blushblushblush I'm already uncomfortable and achy. There is absolutely no way it's a secret! I also have a friend who is a week ahead if me and only has a slight bump... Mine is like a full on capital D!! blush

WhizzsMum Tue 09-Apr-13 21:05:52

Frog I'm with you on the big bump. I don't fit into some of the maternity clothes I wore with my first at 6 - 8 months, let alone 3 almost 4 months. I am blatent!!! It worked in my favour in Rome last weekend though, two elderly people gave up their seats on bus journeys moments before I would faint, and a waitor took me by the hand past a long long queue for the toilets and I was ushered into staff loos much to the disgust of everyone else in the queue. Oh how I loved my big bump that day grin
Jennimoo I know I probably shouldn't but I've kind of experiemented with my pregnacare tablets in an unintentional way. I've taken them for short bursts and for some reason stopped, then remember again when I feel rough. They generally take a couple of days to wear off and the same again to take effect. Well it appears to do that for me. Hope you feel better soon.

jennimoo Tue 09-Apr-13 21:11:20

Whizzsmum - thanks for the info, will try to keep taking them, especially as I have a couple of boxes in the cupboard!

I'm stressing that I'm getting stressed now, and that it's making me feel worse. Although I've suffered from anxiety and depressionin the past, in pregnancy and postnatally it is probably better than average, so fingers crossed its a blip sad

WhizzsMum Tue 09-Apr-13 22:24:38

Oh jennimoo I'm with you on that too. I've suffered with bouts of depression most of my adult life. Had horrible PND with DD. Haven't really suffered with depression since she was born until falling pregnant this time. I have what I can only describe as sudden black clouds hanging over me for no apparent reason, I am also having crazy anxiety dreams as well as periods of severe paranoia when awake. It's making work a little tricky as I'm beginning to think the worst of people's comments and very much doubting my own ability. I confessed all to my boss who has organised some coaching and some councilling for me through work before I go on maternity leave. Said she wanted me to leave work content with everything and be able to make the most of my maternity leave. Hopefully it is just a blip flowers

juniper9 Tue 09-Apr-13 23:18:24

I've been taking Pregnacare or tesco's own since I was trying to conceive, but I'm going to stop taking them to see if they're causing my heart to race. It probably isn't the cause, but an easy thing to exclude. My heart rate is nearly always over 100 if I'm not lying down, and it went up to 150 when I walked down the road the other day! I thought it was going to explode- not pleasant. Waiting for blood test results to see if I'm anaemic or have an under active thyroid, as they said my ECG showed 'nothing of major concern' but of some concern?!?!

jennimoo Wed 10-Apr-13 06:15:07

Whizz - than you for sharing. smile Your boss sounds great. I've been very open about my past issues with my current boss, but we're a small new company and things seem to be permanently changing and stressful, which is hard to keep up with 2 days a week!

Although I love what I do I'm looking forward to getting the final ok on holiday / Bank holidays so I can set a final finish date and countdown the days. Probably about 30!

Kittenkatzen Wed 10-Apr-13 07:46:35

Morning lovely ladies!

Have had a busy few days so not been around much, lovely to read of all the happy scan news though! Mines not till the 30th, yawn...

Couple of catch up points:

ready I've also got the What To Expect... book and haven't found it overly useful tbh. Agree that the web is much better for answering random questions! I've got the What To Expect...The First Year as well and actually that does seem a bit more helpful from what I've skim-read so far. A little pushy on the pro breast feeding side maybe (and that's coming from someone who plans to breast feed!).

In bump news, DH and I both think I've got a proper little bump now, but all I keep getting from others are comments on how I'm not showing much yet. It's making me slightly paranoid as to just how podgy I must have looked pre-preg! confused

On the multivitamins are we still supposed to be taking those?? I had thought you were supposed to stop after 12 weeks! Still got some though so maybe I'll start them up again. emma I definitely always had to take mine with food, they made me properly pukey on an empty stomach!

ION we went to ikea at the weekend to see if we could maybe get a few nursery bits and pieces but we were really disappointed with what they had...a couple of nice bits and pieces but a lot of it just looked cheap and tacky sad. We went to the big mothercare afterwards and did our first proper baby shop which was lovely - picked up lots of bits like babygros, sleep suits, muslins, bibs....I was like a kid in a expensive sweet shop!! grin

Oh and I'm definitely starting to feel more definite movements now - it's fluttery still but more predictable (after eating normally!). I've only felt it while sat down so far though...

Anyway I've rambled enough...happy Wednesday all smile

flipflump Wed 10-Apr-13 09:52:54

Lovely to hear all 20 week scan news, really looking forward to mine in 2 weeks. Really need to know everything is going well, I'm such a worrier.

I'm still unable to brush my teeth without vomiting, does anyone else struggle? Any tips?

Having a lovely, lazy day off today. I'm just reading through Gurgle magazine I picked it up in mothercare. I'm really enjoying it. Lots of practical info, great products etc. I feel I can relate to it, does that make sense? Like its aimed at me? Clearly losing the plot, 18 weeks and a bit mad!! First preg yoga session today, really looking forward to it. Up until this point, I couldn't face much, work and life in general wore me out. Hope everyone else is enjoying the second trimester and being almost halfway through pregnancy. Has anyone bought a maternity swimming costume? If so, where from? Tried my own on and it looked awful but keen to do a spot of swimming.

flipflump Wed 10-Apr-13 09:54:58

Kittenkatzen, how exciting, love hearing what everyone has been buying. It makes it feel so real, heading home with a mothercare bag of goodies.

Has anyone not bought anything at all?

I fear I'm a little too enthusiastic/organised but I find it hard to resist!

badguider Wed 10-Apr-13 10:01:21

So interesting to hear about the big and little bumps. I look really chubby around the middle but it doesn't look like a bump yet. It's also far bigger in the evening with bloat then flatish again in the morning blush. The annoying thing is that I don't really fit any maternity clothes - am wearing size 16 normal clothes and my normal (size 12) dresses, trackies and yoga pants. Have got a couple of 'over the bump' things in sales - a cord skirt, some navy chinos and a pair of jeans and certainly can't even think about wearing them yet.

Had my first baby anxiety dream last night. I dreamt that I gave birth and they took my baby away with out any skin-to-skin or feed and put her in an old-fashioned nursery and said she'd visit me occassionally as she grew up but I had to just 'get better' and get on with life she'd be looked after in the nursery / by a nanny. I was distraught.

Guess that means I have bonded with the wee wiggle in my tummy then grin. I was worried I hadn't at all.

I was quite restless around 3am for an hour or two then this morning just could not wake up... so tired... got a lot of work to do today but all at home and dh is working late so I guess I'll just work late into the evening too to catch up (I do LOVE being self employed sometimes!).

badguider Wed 10-Apr-13 10:12:37

flipflump* - i've not bought anything except a campervan

But i've done a lot of research...

EmmaDee Wed 10-Apr-13 10:33:15

I havent bought anything either. Dont wanna tempt fate. Gonna go mad after the 20 week scan and buy mothercare out!!!

Had my 16 week mw appointment this morning, she listened for the hb after telling me not to panic if she couldnt hear anything but she found it straight away! She also said I had just the right size bump for my 16+3! So all good!! Cant wait for the "big scan" now!

flipflump Wed 10-Apr-13 11:06:35

Badguider, I love that!! We have discussed selling our tent on eBay but might attempt one last camping trip before I'm too huge, then trade it for a big family one grin

I'm unable to go near a shop without leaving with something for baby. I had worried about tempting fate etc but after my 12 week I gave in, then it got slightly out of control wink we've also been given a HUGE amount by siblings as we're the last to reproduce. I love that baby will be using their big cousins things.

andadietcoke Wed 10-Apr-13 11:30:24

flipflump I've not bought anything at all, and I won't until 28 weeks. I think it's a superstition thing and anxiety post miscarriage, compounded by every time I look at twin buggies or anything at all twin I think about how I'd feel if one (or both) of them didn't make it for whatever reason and how I'd hate to be surrounded by twin things. I intend to get to 28 weeks and then buy everything online and just have it delivered. Maybe I'll feel differently after the 20w scan but at the moment it just feels like tempting fate too much, and I still can't believe I'll be lucky enough to end up with one baby, let alone two.

WhizzsMum Wed 10-Apr-13 11:54:55

I've not bought anything either, however I do have loads from DD, so if we have a girl I am all sorted.

I had my 16week check how long my cervix is scan this morning. All baby measurements good and sitting nicely on 50th centile. My DD aged 4 was able to see her new brother/sister on the screen. Her face was an absolute picture, the excitement and joy on her face was just gorgeous (hope that feeling lasts when baby is actually here). We even got to see baby open its mouth and when it moved its arms DD said 'it's waving at me'. Cervix on the other hand is on the shorter side of average hmm back to consultant next week and then hopefully I'll be scanned at 20, 24 and 28 weeks just to keep a check on things.

Dietcoke I can understand your anxiety, must be doubled with twins, fingers crossed you'll feel better after 20 week scan

WhizzsMum Wed 10-Apr-13 12:30:43

Just thought I'd share a little find this morning. Have made playdough with DD, we normally make a dough that needs to be heated in the pan/microwave but have today found a non-cook recipe (much quicker).

theimaginationtree.com/2012/04/best-ever-no-cook-play-dough-recipe.html

frogchops Wed 10-Apr-13 12:45:55

I'm all doughed out! During the holidays its all we seem to do at work, so I'm having a well earned dough break until dc is about 13!! grin

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Wed 10-Apr-13 13:07:37

Kittenkatzen I think (might want to google to check) that we're meant to take Vitamin D throughout pregnancy so even if you stop multivitamins you should take vitamin D. I'm still taking my Superdrug multivits.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Wed 10-Apr-13 13:08:54

I googled...

Vitamin D
Vitamin D regulates the amount of calcium and phosphate in the body, these are needed to keep bones and teeth healthy.

You need to take vitamin D during your pregnancy to provide your baby with enough vitamin D for the first few months of its life. You should take a supplement of 10 micrograms of vitamin D each day when you are pregnant and if you breastfeed.

In children, not having enough vitamin D can cause their bones to soften and can lead to rickets (a disease that affects bone development in children).

Vitamin D can be found naturally in oily fish (such as salmon, mackerel and sardines), eggs and meat. Some manufacturers add it to some breakfast cereals, soya products, some dairy products, powdered milk, and fat spreads such as margarine.

The best source of vitamin D is summer sunlight on your skin. The amount of time you need in the sun to make enough vitamin D is different for every person, and depends on things such as skin type, the time of day and the time of year. However, you don't need to sunbathe: the amount of sun you need to make enough vitamin D is less than the amount that causes tanning or burning. If you have dark skin or always cover your skin, you may be at particular risk of vitamin D deficiency. Talk to your midwife or doctor if this applies to you.

flipflump Wed 10-Apr-13 13:09:49

Dietcoke, I fully appreciate where you're coming from. With twins it must double the worry too. Will be such a relief once we all get to meet these little people - I'm sure we'll still be worrying about them though

Wincher Wed 10-Apr-13 13:54:10

I just found i hadn't posted on here for long etough that it had fallen off my threads I'm on!

I haven't bought anything yet, but I have most stuff left over from DS. If we find out thesex at 20 weeks I will probably buy some clothes to suit whichever gender. Mind you I gave away all the neutral newborn stuff when my SIL was working with a refugee who had a baby girl and had no clothes, so even if it's a boy I might want some neutral bits to escape the endless blue and khaki!

fl0b0t Wed 10-Apr-13 14:05:04

Cream Tea I need to know of the weight of the Eagle!!

emmadee Sorry to hear the tiredness has hit- did you have it before? My tiredness on the whole has died down, but I have a few nights of going "oh god, 8pm, bed time" still!

kamikazee although we have told people, a week and a half ago I had exactly that- wen to bed feeling round, woke up with a BUMP!

Pregnancy vitamins- to be honest I've not been very good at taking them. A few bad experience of taking them when I was still very sick and it's put me off them. I am taking some extra vit D though, even though they are stinky as all hell. Vit D usually improves my skin, and seeing as I'm breaking out right now I hope the vit d will help!

I had my 16 week midwife appt today. I think my midwife likes me as I'm so uncomplicated! Bloods came back all great (Rheus negative tho), blood pressure 110/69. I took the husband on the offchance we WOULD hear the baby's heartbeat and we did! It sounded awesome, fast and VERY strong, though the baby kept kicking the heartbeat device and making crazy noises (it clearly didn't appreciate being poked!). Very quick appointment, and I feel confident that all is well. Phew :-)

I am also falling madly in love with my lovely round bump!
(picture here http://www.flickr.com/photos/claredowlingphotography/8604700222/)

It's perfect for stroking and patting (and I rested a biscuit on it earlier). Weeks 5-12 of the pregnancy went so damn slowly whilst I was sick, then suddenly I'm at 17 weeks and scared of it ending! I'm enjoying pregnancy now!

BinarySolo Wed 10-Apr-13 14:07:33

My local council gives free folic acid with vitamin c for pregnant and breast feeding women. We also get supplements for young children.

Still got a horrid cold making me vomit.

RunningBear78 Wed 10-Apr-13 14:53:47

I'm so jelous of all your bumps envy fl0's is super cute! I'm so glad I can feel wriggling though, very reassuring.

I've accidentally bought a moses basket for £2 from the charity shop currently serving as a laundry basket and some cute baby grow's also £2 from a charity shop. We've been given a couple of cute baby presents already, but a la dietcoke, I've packed them up and hidden them just in case. Including this gorgeous thing www.flatout.com.au/koala.htm !!! from an Aussie friend. Shopping post 20/24 weeks I think, just in case.

Oh and was someone talking about lower abdominal pain whilst weeing? Just had that, so strange!?

EmmaDee Wed 10-Apr-13 15:28:24

Fl0bot, I got away with the tiredness for a while. In the early days I was working on site and I think the freezingness and fresh air helped. But now stuck in the office (yuck) I think the air conditioning and ridiculously warm conditions isnt helping my sleepiness!

Gonna hit the vitamin tablets hard, see if that sorts it out!!!

KamikazeeKid Wed 10-Apr-13 16:35:45

Nope not told anyone other than parents! Amazed at my restraint.
Sure people r guessing as ive either become a mega fatty overnight as opposed to usual chubby self....or that im pregnant. Need to wear mat clothes but thats a giveaway!!!

KamikazeeKid Wed 10-Apr-13 16:36:20

Really want to announce and enjoy without worrying about work!

ratbagcatbag Wed 10-Apr-13 16:36:33

Ok copy and pasted from oct thread. If anyone interested please let me know.

Hello lovely ladies, apologies for the gate crash, I'm from the graduated April 2013 group with an early arrival and doing night feeds.
Anyway I posted some of my maternity stuff on the would you like topic, but no one responded, I figured logically, here may be better, I'm happy for it to go to a good home rather than someone tell e they want it, and then sell it. Likely to happen if I free cycle the stuff. Anyway hers the list copied and pasted from other thread. If you want any of it please inbox me. Obviously it's all free, just don't want it or need it now.

Ooh, have my size 18 maternity stuff if anyone interested.
2 x jeans, one over bump, one under, both boot cut style, short leg -new look
2 x bubble hem top, comfy and flattering, one in dark purple, has a tiny hole on the seam, one dusky pink -new look
Lovely jade green going out top, with pull tighter ruching?!?, cowl neck - new look
1 x fitted black jumper with 3/4 sleeves -red herring
1xblack work trousers, short leg. New look again

Let me know if interested, I'm in notts area, may need to pay some towards postage fir jeans as I imagine they won't be cheap.

LexyMa Wed 10-Apr-13 17:40:56

What a lovely offer ratbag!

I have avoided telling people unless they need to know in some way or it's unavoidable. E.g. Most people know at work, told a couple and then just let it be obvious after about 17 weeks and confirmed if asked. Family, friends we went skiing with, and I think DH has told lots of people by email.

What I very deliberately haven't done is Facebook-announce, and I disabled my wall so that once people know they can't write congratulations messages which all my other friends would see (would just undo my caution!!). I just didn't want the me-me-me, I have learned from MN that people can take happy baby news very hard, and I am now glad I did that because last week someone from my first-time-round NCT group put up a post linking to her blog and announced she has lost an IVF baby at 7 weeks. Her first was IVF too, so I can imagine it all feels very last chance saloon for her. Others in the group have all had second babies (and third in one case). This week she has put up another blog post about the egg harvesting and called it 'part 1' so I imagine there will be more and she is using blogging as therapy. So there will be no Facebook references or pictures from me.

Creamtea1 Wed 10-Apr-13 18:30:53

flo it must have been a 2lb'er! I'm still suffering the after effects today!
I love your bump pic, and am a bit reassured as mine is about the same size and shape smile

Fozziebearmum2b Wed 10-Apr-13 18:58:21

Flip flump-Im the same, almost being sick when brushing teeth! I thought It was just me! I don't have any tips Im afraid just that mine has for better since the morning sickness has subsided.. But is still there-it's so annoying..

Kittenkatzen Wed 10-Apr-13 19:05:50

flip I haven't actually vommed whilst brushing teeth but I do gag a lot - weirdly I find that blowing my nose first helps, as does leaning over the sink and spitting regularly. And I bought a maternity tankini from next a week or two ago - have yet to pool test it though smile

badguider I'm envy I want a campervan!

Thanks for the vits tip red, I'll get organised and start taking them again smile

Eeeknumber3 Wed 10-Apr-13 19:06:56

Been to midwife today for 16 week appointment...she tried to persuade me to have a home birth...she said, ahhh look you've had two dead straightforward births, do this one at home! Erm, no thanks...
Heard the hearbeat at 149 bpm, so that was reassuring after the lack of moving...blood pressure taken and that was it, 10 mins max! Back at 28 weeks...

Dorita75 Wed 10-Apr-13 19:28:23

I'd be interested to know if anyone's found a good swimming costume too as I want to do some swimming. Got first preg yoga next Monday, can't wait.

Big news here is I've left my wristbands off since last night and been ok, hurrah! Was still retching with toothbrush until about 10days ago. Think I'm finally nearing 'blooming' phase tho still ready for bed early.

We've not bought anything yet mainly because we've been given so much. Joined cow&gate club and got cute toy cow, baby's first toy!

weebarra Wed 10-Apr-13 19:28:53

Not doing the facebook thing either. Too many friends who have had losses or have problems ttc.
I am so knackered but it's the end of my working week - at least, the end of the bit I get paid for wink .

JammyTummy Wed 10-Apr-13 20:07:23

Oooh Running Bear that looks just like the JL sheepskin teddy I got (for which I am constantly mocked by DH who thinks he is creepy cause he's flat), but I so love it!

flip I found that using a different toothpaste helped. Not necessarily going the whole way down to kiddie paste (but if you're really struggling this may not be a bad idea) but just changing to a different flavour of mintiness/ consistency.

I've been taking pregnacare bits daily since I got pregnant, and got in a really good habit of doing it, so I think I will stick it out! Thinking some extra vitamins can't be bad for me!

Still having cramps sometimes after peeing, although the one I had today was in a different place completely! I used to feel them just above pubic bone (I concluded that it was baby relaxing after being squashed by my bladder for a prolonged period of time) but today it was on top of baby, where I would imagine my stomach to be. Odd.

LexyMa Wed 10-Apr-13 20:07:49

Swimmers: I have a Mamas & Papas halter tankini from first time round which was good. Horizontal navy/white Breton stripes and bright pink knicker trim and tie bits on the halter neck.

Who mentioned maternity tights earlier? A week on Monday I start commuting by tube an hour each way, will probably get a seat on the way in but who knows at home time... I have a load of mama-hosiery om the suitcase that goes around my friends with kids, will see if they make a difference.

Would it be weird to add a label or something to my baby on board tube badge that says "if asleep please wake me for <my station name>"

LexyMa Wed 10-Apr-13 20:09:22

om=from

JammyTummy Wed 10-Apr-13 20:09:36

Ps I am definitely of the 'over prepared' camp- I've even started building up a stock of nappies: a pack every time I do my weekly shop!

RunningBear78 Wed 10-Apr-13 20:39:17

dorita I've been swimming a fair bit but have bought a normal cossie but the next size up, after advice from serious swimmers that maternity ones are good for floating but not good if you want to swim at any sort of pace. Decathlon do reasonably priced cossies, but beware thier cheaper ones are see through! I have a cheapy and wear a bikini underneath it is so see theough!

flipflump Wed 10-Apr-13 22:33:04

Jammy, I've been tempted to nappies too. Decided I must not go that far yet. I'm leaving myself very little to buy/prepare over the next 22 weeks.

Thank you for all the toothbrushing tips, I'll buy a few different toothpastes tomorrow and try them out. Tonight I had a regular spit and swapped from electric to manual and managed to keep my dinner down, things are improving.

ION, am I the only one that hasn't felt any movement?

Dorita75 Thu 11-Apr-13 06:58:50

Thanks runningbear I'll have a look at those, thanks for tip!

Flip I've not felt a thing yet. Also when I wake up the bump is very obviously to the right of my belly button. I'm trying to lie on left side but who don't know what I'm doing once I'm asleep! (does it actually matter which side? SIL told me it was best for blood flow to baby but I've only read don't lie on your back because you can put pressure on nerves that make you feel faint)

I picked up a speedo maternity costume from John Lewis as I really don't like the halter neck style that everyone else seems to sell.....too uncomfy if you're well endowed!

Not bought anything baby related yet, but have a John Lewis wish list building up & am off to a baby show on the 20th which am sure will signal the start of the spree!

BinarySolo Thu 11-Apr-13 07:25:45

Be careful with stock piling nappies as size could be an issue and also different brands have different fits so some will suit your baby more than others.

HettySunshine Thu 11-Apr-13 07:50:32

I felt the first little flutters yesterday - it's like nothing else but did take a few before I was sure.

I've also noticed the last couple of nights that it is much harder to get comfortable in bed. I usually sleep on my tummy but can't anymore. Trying to get used to sleeping on my side but keep waking up sort of wedged in between the two. I hadn't expected that to happen so soon.

I'm afraid we have bought quite a lot - car seat, pushchair, nursing chair, angel monitor, changing bag and lots of little bits as well. Mostly because this way we don't have to buy everything all at once which we wouldn't be able to afford. Can I let you all into a secret though? It is the best fun EVER! grin

Fozziebearmum2b Thu 11-Apr-13 08:03:57

Anyone else's bump smaller in the mornings? Mine seems to feel smaller and wobbly in the morning but grows massively through the day and becomes harder too...v odd

kimjayne Thu 11-Apr-13 08:29:17

Flipflump, I've not really felt anything yet. sad I was starting think it might just be me. Glad to hear that there's a few others too. Also, my bump seems to have paused in growth. It had a growth spurt around a week ago but nothing since then.
Has anyone else noticed that your bump grows most when your sickness is at it's worst?

Kittenkatzen Thu 11-Apr-13 08:41:43

Ooh jammy I woke with a high-up crampy feeling this morning - ouchy!

lexyma I have found that my baby on board badge has had almost no effect at all so far! Hopefully you're brave than me and happy to ask for a seat if you need one smile

hetty I'm a stomach sleeper too and can highly recommend the full body length pillow that people were talking about on the last thread. It's not the most romantic thing ever (!) but omg it's sooooooo comfy to sleep with. Think it still on offer for a tenner in Argos.

fozzie my bump definitely grows through the day....am sure it has nothing to do with that fact that I'm pretty much living on a diet of carbs and veggies grin

Had an odd conversation with my bf last night....the subject of breast feeding came up, and she announced to the group that there was no way I'll be breastfeeding on demand for six months. I said that well that's my plan but we'll see how things go obv, but she was insistent and said surely I need to get baby straight onto a 4-hourly bottle routine so I can get my life back hmmsad. Sigh - not even 6 months pg and already getting grief for our choices!

Flo your bump pics are gorgeous!

My bump defo gets bigger after food, which makes sense as there's less space for the bowels at the mo! And I feel sick when I have indigestion (usually when I've had too much food, like last night....). Gaviscon & peppermint capsules all the way for me ;-)

Am still on pregnacare as am veggie so have always taken a multivitamin, alot of the normal multi-vits have things in that you shouldn't take while preggers so I feel safer with pregnacare.

Kittenkatzen Thu 11-Apr-13 08:52:00

Ha lexy I take it back, a lovely lady on the bus just spotted my badge and offered me her seat smile

badguider Thu 11-Apr-13 09:11:35

I'm having slight issues with the terminology 'bf on demand' with DH because we have a friend who tandem bf's on demand her 1yo and 3yo and with the 3yo it really is 'on demand' rather than 'ask nicely' - she is a slave to him/it and will not say no (nothing to do with bf, she won't say no to him about jumping on furniture or anything really).

It's given DH the absolute terrors and he has visions that if I start of bf on demand it'll mean ending up like that family.... I'm doing my best to reassure him but it doesn't help that we don't have a lot of other bf-ing friends who weaned earlier or mixed with ebf bottles (as I intend to).

jemimahpuddleduck Thu 11-Apr-13 09:11:59

Had lots of flutters all day Monday but none since I am feeling movement but it's more like little jolts has anyone else kind of skipped the flutter stage? I wouldn't say it was a big kick or anything but definately more than a flutter.

Bump seems to have stopped growing completely its the same size as it was at 12 weeks I'm now 18+1. I'm not too worried as am guessing that when I was 12 weeks (when I thought it was too big!) it must of been bloating
and now it's more of an official bump.

kitten glad you got a seat on the bus this morning smile

fl0b0t Thu 11-Apr-13 09:35:50

doritaI bought the left hand swimming costume here www.next.co.uk/women/maternity/underwear-swimwear/2

I tried it last night- worked well except when you push off from the side the top peels down a little. I don't think I exposed any nipple though!!

It was super comfy, loads of space to grow and it will be great post-baby whilst my body is all wibbly too. Highly recommended (unless you're a "serious" swimmer!) I did 30 lengths happily (second swim since before xmas) and was very comfy in it.

Jammy we're going to try real nappies, and have been donated a bunch. Will buy a few disposeables but hoping to go without the expense (also I'm a bit of a hippy!)

flip I've also found nose blowing and a lighter toothpaste helped.

Hetty- I also used to love sleeping on my front, but I broke my shoulder last yer and had to pump myself full of cocodamol and lie on my back (couldnt even lie on my side!). So I've got used to just having to lump it. You will too!

Fozzie my bump doesn't exist when I lie down, or first thing in the morning! but by lunch it's going "HELLO" and knocking things off shelves!

Kitten- BF is a very emotive issue. I would love to BF, and do so for as long as possible (ok, maybe not up to age 5!!) but maybe even up to the year, and ween when I go back to work. Not everyone's up of tea, but for me that feels like it should be the natural normal thing to do! I'm not having a baby to "get my life back" I'm having it to change my life forever!!!

Ready thanks! I am so glad I've got my creative mojo back!

jemimah depsite being told I'm likely to feel kicks as I'm slim, I'm still not really feeling anything as far as I can tell! Sounds like it's a wriggly little git (12 week scan and kicking the doppler at hte 16wk midwife appt) but I can't feel it yet!

Wow that was long! smile

jennimoo Thu 11-Apr-13 09:53:16

Bad guider - maybe using the term bf ing on 'request' or 'cue' would be better terminology. With a newborn they aren't demanding it as such straight away, more giving you cues that's what they need (eg cute little mouth making sucky movements).

I bf DD until 2.3 (January) but not always on demand, it's usually easy to distract an older child if you choose too. Never planner to be an 'extended bfer' just said I'd give BFing a go and see what happens.

weebarra Thu 11-Apr-13 09:58:10

Likewise Jennimoo - I wanted to bf DS2 until 6 months if I could manage it and before I knew it he was 2! Went back to work when he was 10 months and expressed.

badguider Thu 11-Apr-13 10:00:02

Yes, 'on cue' is a good way to put it for a newborn.

I was really taken aback when DH said 'I really hope you won't be bf on demand' and I said 'of course I will be' but then we talked and I realised he was thinking about the 3yr old we know.

While I don't judge their decision if it works for them, there is just no way I could bf a 3yo on demand whenever and wherever they want instantly as my friend does.

badguider Thu 11-Apr-13 10:01:21

btw. not ruling out extended bf. Just extened combined with 'on demand' without boundaries.

JammyTummy Thu 11-Apr-13 10:03:35

Oh my days I just found out my friend is preggo this morning. She just did her poas and think she was in a state of panic! I told her to save up her wee and go get herself a pink (fr) test as I found them so much more sensitive. I so hope it's a real baby! All that seems so long ago!

flip following all my good advice last night I practically vommed on my toothbrush this morning...

hetty we are the exact same as you- been buying stuff for ages, cause I love to organise and prepare things but also mostly so that its not a huge financial shock come July/ August.

TripleRock Thu 11-Apr-13 10:15:56

About the BF issue, I agree 'on cue' is a better description for what I am aiming for. Some sleepy newborns even need prompting and reminding to nurse regularly in those all important early days. I have seen threads on MN of mums waiting for their newborns to 'demand' and they end up getting themselves in a pickle, coz lots just don't.

I'm another who intended to ebf to 6m and then carry on till 1yo before switching to cows milk, however for various reasons I'm still feeding her at 2.5, albeit down to once every few days now. Fwiw I have not fed her in public since she was about 9/10 mo. Not for any special reason, just because she stopped needing to feed in the day.

TripleRock Thu 11-Apr-13 10:20:42

jennimoo I have just realised our DDs must be very similar ages (Oct 2010?) smile

Are you planning on bothering with a double buggy can I ask?

jennimoo Thu 11-Apr-13 10:39:41

Triple. I was on the Oct 2010 thread but DD showed up 2 weeks early in September!

We rarely use a pushchair so hadn't even considered getting a double. But I bet she'll want to ride when she sees her little brother in a pushchair!

Kittenkatzen Thu 11-Apr-13 11:05:56

Yes I'm hoping to mix with ebf bottles after the first few weeks too - in no small part because we feel it would be good for DH to be able to feed baby, and for others to get involved too. Incidentally my DH is nothing but supportive about bf...although he's slightly apprehensive about me feeding in public - think he has visions of me flopping a nork out randomly grin Not sure why my friend seems to feel so strongly about it - she doesn't have kids of her own so it's not from personal experience. Hopefully we'll be able to discuss things a bit more in the next few months - I don't want to be self conscious about feeding in front of her sad

At the moment our plan is bf (with some ebf bottles if poss) to six months, then introduce blw. It's just a loose idea of what we'd like to do though - all kinds of circumstances could change that of course!

Girraferama Thu 11-Apr-13 11:13:06

Can I just come on and have a slight panic please? Just been to the loo and there was a little bit of blood. It was mainly when wiping - I've had quite a lot of mucassy discharge (sorry if tmi) and so it was mixed in with that but was red/pink. There were also a couple of drops in the loo. I'm trying not to panic. Not had any pain at all and feel fine. Waited 10mins and went again and there was nothing. Am I overreacting?

Been lurking as I can never keep up with the conversation!

Had my 16 week midwife appointment today at 18+1 an I got to hear the heartbeat. Midwife and I agreed it sounded like a train. Wonder if that'll be true. Got my 20 week scan on 25th and I plan to find out! Didn't find out the last time but seen as this one has been a wee surprise, I need some control and hope that finding out will help me regain that!

Kittenkatzen Thu 11-Apr-13 11:24:14

Not overreacting giraffe but try not to panic, it can happen for lots of reasons. Have you dtd recently as that can be a big cause, or it might just be some old blood coming away.

Give your midwife/epu a call and get checked out for peace of mind, but if its stopped already then it's probably nothing to worry about.

Deep breaths smile

TripleRock Thu 11-Apr-13 11:29:42

Girraferama, I'm sure there's no reason to panic, but in your shoes I'd want to get checked out. Can you reach your MW?

frogchops Thu 11-Apr-13 11:41:34

Am wondering if anyone's had pain, like sitting on a knitting needle right up the fanjo. Sort of a pain/itchiness which is right inside. Sound normal?like a uti? Something else? Makes me move about in my chair to get comfortable. Went to the loo but it didnt shift it.

fl0b0t Thu 11-Apr-13 11:44:43

Agreed giraffe don't panic but call your midwife. They can get you in for a scan to reassure you smile fx

ION I'm sure some people enjoy being offended. Just posted looking or baby names and all I said was I don't like chavvy or biblical names and I'm getting comments of "hard to know what to suggest until we know what you call chavvy". So I guess I should just write out a list of horrible names to offend half of mumsnet?! Gah! Too many hormones in this place for comfort!

JammyTummy Thu 11-Apr-13 11:48:48

flo I think some people thrive on kicking up a stink, it's what gets them going. If you don't like a thread, don't bloody look at it!

JammyTummy Thu 11-Apr-13 11:50:46

giraffe have you been able to establish whether its coming g from 'outsid or 'inside'? I know if it was me I'd have a little, ahem, investigation in there. It might give you some peace of mind.

Girraferama Thu 11-Apr-13 11:55:07

Thanks guys, yes will give her a call. Just been to the loo again and totally fine. So weird. Trying to stay calm.

Creamtea1 Thu 11-Apr-13 12:36:12

giraffe I've had exactly that too and it was coming from errm, the bottom end. So try not to worry x

CharlW1 Thu 11-Apr-13 14:08:34

Just catching up from the last few days! I'm on holiday in Turkey - the week has gone so fast but exactly what I needed in terms of relaxing - not sure how I am going to cope at work next week without my little long afternoon sleeps!

My skin has been a lot more sensitive in the sun - second day I burnt my legs so bad it actually hurt to walk! ankles have well and truly turned to cankles too.

I still haven't felt anything definite and I'm19 weeks tomorrow - I am getting a bit worried now but hopefully I will feel something soon - definitely roll on to the 19th for my 20 week scan.

CharlW1 Thu 11-Apr-13 14:09:09

Just catching up from the last few days! I'm on holiday in Turkey - the week has gone so fast but exactly what I needed in terms of relaxing - not sure how I am going to cope at work next week without my little long afternoon sleeps!

My skin has been a lot more sensitive in the sun - second day I burnt my legs so bad it actually hurt to walk! ankles have well and truly turned to cankles too.

I still haven't felt anything definite and I'm19 weeks tomorrow - I am getting a bit worried now but hopefully I will feel something soon - definitely roll on to the 19th for my 20 week scan.

TripleRock Thu 11-Apr-13 14:43:10

Creamtea I've had that delight too. Nearly had a heart attack before I realised...

LexyMa Thu 11-Apr-13 15:31:29

Fx all ok giraffe, don't worry.

Kitten, I bet you just looked a little smidge more assertive as well as wearing the badge, because you'd been thinking about it! I have managed to travel in and out off peak so no pressure on seats at all.

I bf'd DS on cue/demand and had plenty of a 'life'!! including going back to work at 6m although I know I was lucky to have a meeting room available to express, and a fridge, AND nursery was on site so I could just drop the milk there for the following day. I have blocked out can't remember when the middle of the night feeds went on till. As he gradually weaned and needed less milk, we went down to an 'arriving home' 6pm feed, a last before bed 8pm feed, sometimes an 11pm 'dreamfeed' and a 6am wake up feed. Dropped the dream feed, then the before bed, then the arriving home, and did the 6am one until age 20 months when we went to Cyprus for a postponed honeymoon and left him with my parents for four days (he had a great time being fussed over!). I didn't really want to go out partying much, and our social circle is mostly families anyway, so baby came with us and fed when he needed. After 1 year old, if I did go out he could have cows milk, but some nights it was daddy and cow milk even if I was in, because I was insistent we shared parenting completely.

The only person who ever commented on my feeding him was MIL, and not in a bad way really, she just kept mentioning that she couldn't because she had an abscess. well, I ... (er, probably bit much of a scare story for this thread, so if you want to know, look for 'Lexilicious' in late 2009 in the breast and bottle feeding topic!!)

I am realising I am currently in rather polarised maternity wear options where the choice is boring black trousers or jeans, coupled with either floaty or bump-accentuating tops. Today I have been in a floaty top because I didn't want to look pregnant too obviously, because of the particular meeting I was in. I am wondering whether to look for skirts, but I also have quite a few dresses, so maybe that would be a bit extravagant.

Fozziebearmum2b Thu 11-Apr-13 16:16:29

Giraffe, I had the same thing about 2 weeks ago. Ie, one wipe worth and nothing more..

It was at night and I was advised to go to A&E by my midwife, had loads of investigations and baby was totally fine (I was 13+5 at the time) now 16 wks, not had anymore and heard the lovely heartbeat last week. Don't panic, get it checked out for peace of mind.

Hope it all goes well

JammyTummy Thu 11-Apr-13 16:17:39

So shocked by this article! shock

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2307129/Amanda-Holden--Shona-Sibary-Why-I-hate-smug-bullies-Mumsnet.html

SGJ Thu 11-Apr-13 17:23:34

What's more shocking is how the Daily Mail allows its journalists to lazily copy and paste from a similar 2009 article....
Some people who use mumsnet are plain bonkers but im pleased to say that you lot all seem like sane, normal people!! (and whilst pregnant too, well done you!)
Got 20 week scan tomorrow, it seems to have come round quickly! Will be 20+2 so hoping to get some nice clear pictures. Won't be finding out the sex though! Anyone else got theirs tomorrow?

frogchops Thu 11-Apr-13 17:31:42

Quick vote. I think I've either got a uti, some sort of infection, cystitis or thrush...I'm rubbish at telling the difference. Either way its really uncomfortable bordering on painful. My Drs is conveniently closed today. Would you wait to go in the morning or wait the two hours at the Walk in now?

Eeeknumber3 Thu 11-Apr-13 17:58:53

I haven't bought anything yet! My DD and DS are 5 and 7, so all their stuff is gone in the main! Will be borrowing lots, charity shopping/ebaying/jumble saling it....am known amongst my friends as Mrs Money saver! Hasn't always been this way, used to be terrible spendthrift!

Eeeknumber3 Thu 11-Apr-13 18:03:04

Ooo what just happened, I posted my post and it gave me several new pages of you guys posting, so apologies that last comment was very behind...OMG I have serious baby brain...

RunningBear78 Thu 11-Apr-13 18:19:26

frog does it hurt when you pee, or twinges now and then or all the time? A few of us have had stabbing type pains up inside the fanjo, but it does pass. I've been told it might be growing pains, although to be fair, not by a mw. Mine passed so I stopped worrying.

If yr really worrieddo you have a mw triage number to call? Otherwise head for the gp.

Kittenkatzen Thu 11-Apr-13 18:28:06

frog at this point i think I'd probably wait till the morning if you're not really in pain atm. Unless you're really worried or think you might have trouble getting in first thing tomorrow?

jammy I laughed my way through that article earlier - the tone of it is just so childish ("they were mean to me...") and I can't believe she named and shamed some posters - telling tales much?! Thing is MN is so big and so broad that you can find anything here if you look hard enough - some threads do turn really nasty, but I've also read some if the kindest most heartwarming threads in support of people having a hard time as well. It is what you make of it I think, like anything in life.

dakomponist Thu 11-Apr-13 18:51:45

SGJ - I've my 20 wk scan tomorrow also. Really looking forward to seeing the wee thing again and sharing the moment with DP.

JammyTummy Thu 11-Apr-13 19:46:26

I was just quite amazed that they let her publish such an angry, bratty article and feature it as one of their main stories! I appreciate that whoever was nasty to her is in the wrong but she seems to have a real chip on her shoulder.
I absolutely agree- I've had nothing but good advice and support since I've joined, and I know lots of other people definitely have too.

frogchops Thu 11-Apr-13 20:04:51

I went to the walk in as I didn't want to piss work off by being in late again tomorrow. blush The nurse has prescribed anti biotics that will get rid of both uti and cystitis apparantly. She did a dip test on my wee and said it was only slightly infected. She wants me to send it away to be tested so well see what's wrong when I've done that! She prodded my yummy and was a little concerned that I could feel pressure below my belly button, but surely that's just because there's a baby there??

Girraferama Thu 11-Apr-13 20:30:06

Hi all, update, nothing all day so was feeling quite relaxed about the incident this morning and came up with all sorts of reasons it could have happened. Checked myself out when I got home from work but couldn't see anything like a scratch or mark.

Text my midwife to ask her to call when free, non-urgent, then got ready for yoga, quickly popped to the loo to find... Blood again! Freaked out! Rang my local midwife unit and the lady was so lovely. I popped along straight away and she listened to the heartbeat, all ok.

She said it's quite common, not too worry because it was pinky-red not bright red and old me to take it easy and just call them f I'm worried. She was really good.

It's stopped again now. She said it could be from Dtd (which we haven't), thrush (which I've not got) or from overdoing t/lifting things (which I haven't) but she told me really not to worry, so I'm now at home doing my best!!

God this pregnancy thing is SO stressful! Thanks or support everyone thanks

CheeseStrawCraving Thu 11-Apr-13 20:30:44

SGJ I agree, we seem to have a nice sane, open-to-all-experiences group here which is lovely, but mners are sometimes bonkers! In fact, I sometimes wander onto the baby names threads to look up our short list and see what the opinions are. I get sidetracked every time by the different opinions, they are brilliant, esp as peoples' choices are so varied!

ION haven't felt any movement yet (18+4) today, but finally got my scan date through for 22nd April, yay! Anyone else found community midwives in thir areas not great? Wasn't sure what to expect as a first-timer, but can honestly say a bit disappointed so far...

Also, I know we have discussed this before, but how many of you are going for NCT classes as first-timers? Just can't decide!

JammyTummy Thu 11-Apr-13 20:51:41

Cheese I am really undecided too! I was told that they are great from a social aspect, as you get to meet people in the exact same boat as you, but the idea of 'role playing exercises' and other such fills me and DH with total fear!

PurplePoppySeed Thu 11-Apr-13 20:59:50

Girra - my friend told me a she back that in all three of her pregnancies she had bleeds at 16 weeks. Each time she decided to take it easy for a couple of days and never got an explanation for it, but she has 3 healthy teenage boys now grin