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August 2013 - Part 4 - Half way there already!

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RugBugs Fri 15-Mar-13 19:00:11
MrsPennyapple Fri 15-Mar-13 19:13:57

Ooh, am I first? Woo hoo!

Scan was today, the sonographer saw everything she needed to see and was happy with everything. Good job we didn't want to know the sex, as she didn't get a good crotch shot. The scan was super clear, we could even see the ventricles of the heart. The pics came out awful though, but we got really good ones at 12 week scan so I'm not too upset.

Foof definitely buy the pram!

FoofFighter Fri 15-Mar-13 19:39:04

Just checking in smile

Yay for Team Yellow mrspennyapple!! wink

RuckAndRoll Fri 15-Mar-13 19:39:32

ooh a brand spanking new thread smile

Just checking in. Worked from home today which was great, got some rest.

Have a great weekend everyone

muddybloodypuddles Fri 15-Mar-13 19:59:36

Ooh hello - congrats on good scan mrspennyapple

Rugs / jolly - I have physio appt on 27th march, they do group appts for pg ladies so don't think I get any one on one unless its really bad - will let you know when I've been

Dh just gone out after us having a mini row (mini as in I refused to talk about it any more) - he has apparently been offered a brilliant opportunity to do the fastnet race for a reduced price - for 2 weeks in August and will only cost £3k of our non-existent money - I am actually quite upset he was even considering it and told him it was a good job he's going out tonight. No doubt his friends will be saying I'm a bitch for not letting him live his dreams blah blah blah, don't really care, its just riled me grrrr men!

RugBugs Fri 15-Mar-13 20:10:22

Hurray for a good scan Mrspennyapple, I wish I was strict enough with myself to stay team yellow but we weren't able to find out with DD, she was shy ha!, I do have moments of feeling strong but they give way to thoughts of shopping fairly quickly!

I wish I had kept my pgp sheet from last pg, had some helpful stuff on it all I can remember is keeping knees together (which I've been doing and has helped).

Muddy that's a bit off of your DH. Hopefully he's just in the initial 'OMG I have this opportunity' rush and reality will dawn on him soon.

FoofFighter Fri 15-Mar-13 21:14:24

Muddy if it makes you feel better my OH was all for going to belladrum festival a week before I am due. And couldn't see a reason not to go either. dick.

Woofers Fri 15-Mar-13 21:27:38

Rug - I mis read your post on the last thread. I thought why can't she get a midwife APP for your smart phone. Oops

My dh came home a few weeks ago and said he'd been offered a posting for 2 weeks in summer in a troubled part of the world. Normally I would have been like, yeah if you want to go, make sure the will is updated. This time I said well how are you going to get home quickly? He made the decision. I just planted the worry seed.

Abilee90 Fri 15-Mar-13 22:02:17

Ah sounds like my dh, why do they get stupid ideas? My dh was like oh my mates want to go away end of july. My reply was you dare go, he was like why? I said hmmm i dunno the invader in my womb may appear while ur away. As you can tell i'm very sarcastic.

I'm watching comic relief and some of it just upsets me far to much and i just cant watch.

Dd fell over this evening and managed to make her mouth bleed sad so i had a screaming blood covered 14 month. She ok now, no tooths lost and i cant work out where the blood was coming from but was only little bit. Dh is crap in these situations and gets annoyed that its happened. Which i try to explain isnt the way to calm her down as his tone isnt comforting but i'm in the wrong for explaining. Its also why dd wants me as soon as something goes wrong and as soon as shes in my arms shes ok and stops crying. Dh is an amazing dad but useless in high pressure situations. My dd is trying to walk more hence the accident. She face planted the floor sad hasnt lost her confidence tho. As soon as she stopped crying, she was off again. Just a bit more careful.

Sorry i dribbled on then. Little man is really getting strong smile


Woofers Fri 15-Mar-13 22:34:31

Poor baby girl! But it will be the first of many. Mouths bleed loads, but from the tiniest break in the skin. Ice lolly tomorrow to help with bruising and swelling.

My dh is the same. All about the practicalities, not about the emotions.

Red Nose Day always makes me want to go and volunteer and give aid in these third world countries. Won't be going this side of 10years tho!!! I'm sure there is plenty to do closer to home.

muddybloodypuddles Fri 15-Mar-13 23:02:16

Dh has texted to say sorry and that he wouldn't really go he just got excited... it probably was a good idea he went out, otherwise we could've had a big row. Maybe his mates told him it was a stupid idea? (or hopefully he came up with it all by himself)

Abi - hope elle is okay, its quite nerve wracking when they're learning to walk!

can't watch red nose day - crap aren't I, just can't handle it...

Woofers - lol - there could be something in a midwife App (i'm sure there probably is one already?!)

Abilee90 Fri 15-Mar-13 23:21:59

Muddy and woofers - shes fine now, was after a five minute mum mum snuggle, she taken to calling me mum mum which is so sweet. Shes so loving bless. I checked her mouth when i did her teeth before bed and all seemed ok. So will keep an eye out for bruising and stuff. She had milky buttons to make her better smile. Also was a naughty mummy and arranged for minnie and mickey mouse to deliver an easter egg to her. She mickey mouse clubhouse mad. My friend works at appearance company and arranged it for me. Excited to see her face now.

Muddy - glad dh came to his senses. Some of them need a few hours to think before they realise. Me and dh are same unless he goes out we have a huge row, i text his friend last sun and said take him out or we will end up in a row so he did. Came bk a different bloke.

Woofers - what pony do you have? I've got a welsh section d cob and a shire. Are you still riding while preg?


Stopsittingonyoursister Fri 15-Mar-13 23:44:59

Quick straw poll if you wouldn't mind ladies....

What do you think of the names:

1) Alexander James (to be known as Xander rather than Alex if we shorten his name)

2) Jack William

Which is your favourite?? Feel like I really want to name DS2 now we "know" him iyswim.

Chuckaluck Sat 16-Mar-13 06:41:37

stopsitting I personally prefer number 2 but I like them both! If we have a boy, it's likely to have William as a second name!

Oooo, shiny new thread, just Getting comfy for the next 8 weeks or so and then we will be in third trimester nearly shock

Locketjuice Sat 16-Mar-13 07:52:29

Hellllo smile just checking in!

duende Sat 16-Mar-13 08:43:47

Checking in.
stopsitting, I like both, but I think I like number 2 better.

People who have bought prams, what have you gone for?

MrsPennyApple great news on the scan. It's amazing what they can see isn't it?!
Muddy so glad to hear he's come to his senses. My DH Is keen sailor and is missing the national championships in mid August. He's disappointed but he knew it was a no brainer. I told him he should have got his little men to impregnate me sooner and then he could've gone wink
StopsittingI prefer the first option personally but they're both lovely.
Duende we've gone for Bugaboo Chameleon - second hand with new fabrics...
Have a great weekend all. I'll mostly be in bed due to having labrynthitis. Which, for the record, sucks. Still not competing for the HG crown tho - that has to suck much more!!

RuckAndRoll Sat 16-Mar-13 10:35:27

duende we've gone for the Quinny Speedi SX. DH is really tall and trying to find one that when the seat is lying back he didn't knee all the time was hard.

Muddy Glad your DH saw the right answer (yours of course!). My DH's job ends on August 31st, luckily he's seen the light and is trying desperately to get a new one earlier than that.

Stopsitting both names I would use smile

abi glad your DD is better, scary when that happens.

Enjoy your weekend everyone

Hello new thread!

I'm having a rubbish day so far, and really struggling with the marriage breakdown. It's all probably worse because of the ongoing sickness, but then I think the sickness is exacerbated by the stress! I can't believe that as well as being so ill, and being pregnant, I have legal proceedings to contend with and need to find lodgers so I can afford the mortgage when stbxh moves out, which is meant to be a week on Monday. Which is also the second anniversary of my dads death which is also very upsetting. I'm in bed at the moment, planning on attempting some upright time as I need to find the energy to get cards etc for DSs birthday and my mums the following week!

Woofers Sat 16-Mar-13 12:28:53

Waves - moon pig for cards. Can you not get an advocate for legal proceedings? And lodgers - right move and local paper. All done on line. No need to be upright smile

I've got the mamas and papas sola - car seat brand new. Carry cot ex display (half price), pushchair in grass green second hand eBay.

Now looking at second hand cot beds.

We have been given an angel thingy alarm thingy. With the sensor pad thingy.

Regarding dh's and their reactions to stress are you for or against dh being your birthing partner?

I know it's a little bit selfish unusual but I'd rather do it alone. My dh is all practicalities no emotional support, and that's what I think il need. Also he tends to shout commands in a crisis - it's his job / nature to take command of a situation. Maybe he needs coaching? Do they cover that at antenatal classes??

Sorry for excessive rambling.

Woofers Sat 16-Mar-13 12:29:36

Oh and the names - I love both choices. Xander is fab

Dexidoo Sat 16-Mar-13 17:37:50

Hello everyone, busy times at work have kept me away. Hope everyone is doing ok, have tried to catch up.

woofers we have put down a deposit on a M&P sola I fell in love with one of the new colours and so decision made blush

Have started thinking about decor/furniture for nursery and hope I've persuaded DH that we should stay team yellow- scan not for another 2 weeks.

stopsitting I like both of your names William is on our list

abi glad your DD is fine bet that was scary

waves you are doing amazingly well coping with everything (hugs)

<scuttles back to the rugby, COME ON WALES!!>


Chuckaluck Sat 16-Mar-13 20:08:41

Well DH has been watching rugby and I have been online looking at nursery sets. Anyone got any thoughts on if you need a wardrobe and the changing unit too?? It's so confusing! Want to start making some of the big purchases so costs can be spread but right now, what with prams too, I feel like head will explode!

Has anyone got any thoughts on the uppababy vista. I am quite keen but don't know anyone who has one!


20+5 - scan on Tuesday - Team Yellow!

duende Sat 16-Mar-13 22:08:36

chuckaluck the vista is what i think we will go for, but haven't bought it yet.

With DS we haven't needed a wardrobe until now- he is 3.5 and I have just today ordered a wardrobe from ikea for him (to share with the baby in the future)

Until now, all his clothes have fitted into this:ikea hemnes
He also had a white cot from Ikea which we will use again.

Stopsittingonyoursister Sat 16-Mar-13 22:14:28

Thanks all for your comments on the names, will keep on thinking!

We aren't getting a new pram for this one - we have the M&P Ultima in Afternoon Tea (white with red polka dots). Did for DS and DD for the first year so will do for this one as well! We'll get a new pushchair when DS2 is a year, like we did for DD - DD's was a lovely M&P one whose model name escapes me, but was magenta pink with a big flowery hood - not really suitable for DS2, so we'll sell that one I think and get something new later on.

woofers I couldn't have done labour without my DH there tbh, but he is very supportive. I guess a lot depends on whether you would have anyone else in the room with you, and how your DH/P would feel about you telling him you didn't want him there? Would he be upset? One of the best moments in my DH's life (according to him) has been watching our children come into the world and cutting the cord - would your DH feel denied of this opportunity? I would definitely say that you need someone in the room with you to advocate for you if you are unable to do that yourself - if you need to make any decisions or have any medical treatment/intervention explained to you, it is much better to have someone there that isn't in pain and can take in the information and ask the relevant questions on your behalf. DH found the NHS antenatal classes were very much about the practicalities (where you go when you get to hospital,how you get your parking permit etc) but the NCT classes were very good - much more about the emotional side of birth, for want of a better description. The partners all discussed their role in the birth, their worries, etc as well as how to actually look after the baby when it arrives ie how to bathe it, how to dress it when they cant push their arms through the sleeves, how often they need feeding/winding/changing etc. As long as you take all the "natural" stuff with a pinch of a salt and adjust the advice to suit your own circumstances, they really were very good.

chuckaluck we bought a low unit for our nursery and changed the baby on the floor. My DMIL is a paedeatric (sp?) neurologist and is dead set against changing units - too easy for the baby to fall off them in her opinion! So we used a low cupboard and had some boxes inside with eg vests, socks, baby grows so we could just reach into the cupboard whilst kneeling with the baby and get whatever we needed. Very very handy in the middle of the night to be able to find a clean babygrow without crashing too much furniture about! Your pram looks lovely.

waves sorry to hear you are having such an awful time. Will you legal team do a home visit in your circumstances? I act for some very poorly people and would never dream of making them come and see me. M&S online is very good for personalised birthday cards.

abi lips produce so much blood, you can't believe that it can all come from such a small cut once it's all cleaned up! Hope she feels better.

Done such a lot today, visiting my Gran who is in a home, swimming lessons, football lesson, supermarket shop (fitted in getting my nails done though!). Baby bump was really sore by about 4pm. But DS had a fabulous report from school yesterday though, so we went out for fish and chips to celebrate - made it all feel a lot better!

20 + 2

Woofers Sat 16-Mar-13 22:36:27

Stopsitting - thank you for your comprehensive reply. Amazed you managed to get a bit of mn browsing in!

We have joined the nct antenatal group, so hopefully that will be enough emotional training for dh.

Abilee90 Sat 16-Mar-13 23:08:30

Evening ladies
I'm shattered! Went to dh's best friends party all dressed up and i dont go out at night (home person) (hermit) lol. So by 10 i was shattered plus dd wouldnt give in and sleep at party as she wants to see everything. Can really tell i dont go out. 22 and loves to stay home, hmmm maybe something wrong lol.

Dd is fine now, found the cut on her lip and looks fine. Just a little cut something nothing to worry about. She had a great night smile. Thanks for all the well wishes and concern smile

Off to bed! Night!

Morning everyone... I have a fun new PG symptom and I wondered if anyone else had experienced it... Dr Google is freaking me out.
I have a sharp pain in my fanjo - like a needle being jabbed in, about halfway (?) up mainly on the right... it come and goes in moments but I have got it a few times a day for the last couple of days, especially in the morning or after going to the loo... Dr Google suggests it's cervix thinning (which is a BAD THING at 20+5, no?) which makes me hope it's early warning of SPD (which I also don't want btw!)
Anyone had similar?

muddybloodypuddles Sun 17-Mar-13 17:31:56

remembering I've had some weird kind of shooting sensation around that area going down from uterus, not particularly painful though, I figured it was just ligaments stretching or something like that. If yours is really painful though it would be worth contacting the mw - and don't scare yourself with any more - step away from googling!!!!

beckie90 Sun 17-Mar-13 19:47:43

I get it remembering I just presumed it was nerves from baby on where he was laid. But mine shoot down through the cervix aswell. Its still worth getting untouch with mw tomorow though xx

LexiLoganberryBump Sun 17-Mar-13 20:17:47

stopsitting I prefer Alexander James, love Xander

We brought the same pram that we had last time, mamas and papas ultima in cityscape fabric.

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Sun 17-Mar-13 20:18:48

I had this just the other night Remembering, thankfully I was at home because it made walking very uncomfortable. It was just shooting pains in my genital area, didn't come from my uterus.

Thanks ladies. Hopefully it's nothing to worry about but I will call MW tomorrow. Between that and the labrynthitis I'm feeling proper sorry for myself thanks

chocolatesolveseverything Sun 17-Mar-13 22:09:21

Remembering - Hope all's well when you speak to the midwife. It's probably nothing, but you'll feel better when you know that for sure!

Waves - Again to say that I have no idea how you're coping with all this, but well done you for doing so. There will be an end to it all - eventually!

Abilee - Have a good night's rest. Sounds like a hectic day.

stopsitting - Both are nice, but I prefer No. 2 myself

All this talk of prams is making me feel nervous that we've not prepared anything like that yet. I've been looking online and got some ideas, but we've got so much on at the moment, and DH is so busy with work, that I've not been able to go baby shopping/reseaching with him yet. We're off on holiday next weekend so it'll probably be mid-April at the earliest that we can start thinking of that stuff. And we've got to get the nursery re-plastered and decorated soon too!

Abilee90 Sun 17-Mar-13 23:50:25

Well today has been just as busy. I cleaned oven and microwave, washed up, done washing, hoovered and then cooked a roast for me, dh, dd, mil and fil. Shattered now but really destressed, got to be a plus point.
Happy st patricks day smile wore green all day.

My scan in 5 days :D cant wait.
Little man hasnt sat still smile

20 weeks tomorrow smile

Snufflebabe Mon 18-Mar-13 07:08:27

Hi everyone, good to hear the scans are all happening. My scan is a week on Wednesday, and I am counting down the days. I am desparate to see the baby and make sure all is well.

I'm now 18+5 and I'm still not feeling anything I think are definite kicks or movements. This is my second baby, so I was hoping I would feel them much earlier. I think with my first it was around 22 weeks or so. I think I have felt flutters, but nothing I can definatly say, eyes, that's a kick. I suppose I remember my DD when she was 30 ish weeks, and there were full on kicks and movements that you could see!

In saying that, I think I've just had a wee kick, someone hopefuly just saying "hey, I'm here, it's fine!"

Being pregnant with a toddler is exhausting, very different to when I was pregnant with my DD. I am still falling asleep at 9pm each night. Waiting for the pregnancy energy to kick in!

Pram wise, we are reusing my first pram, as it's only 3 years old. We have the sola. I bought new bottles yesterday in asda as I didn't want to use our old ones.

We aren't going to find out the sex of the baby. We didn't with DD and it really is the best surprise you can get.

Hope you are all feeling well x

beckie90 Mon 18-Mar-13 08:17:24

Morning everyone smile I have my scan today Yayy, I'm so excited, I know sex etc but just can't wait to see him :D

Just had a lovely bacon and mushroom sandwich and a cuppa. Bump had been very quiet for a few days but was back to normal last night and this morning, my belly has kinda gone down again now and not much there to see but then again seen as I've not told hardly anyone its not a bad thing

Hope everyone has a good Monday xx

RuckAndRoll Mon 18-Mar-13 09:09:28

beckie have a great day.

I've had an interesting start to the day. Got in and found a dead mouse next to my desk. Que me freaking out and finding the nearest man to dispose of it. I'm on my own in the room today so now freaking out at every squeak, sound, itch. Going to be a long day!

Bit of a sad weekend for us, we've been gradually realising that our church congregation are very against children being in church (seen and not heard viewpoint). Now we've got one coming we realised at the weekend we probably won't be happy staying at the place we've been going for 4 years and are part of the family. Sad realisation we've got to start looking for a new church sad

beckie90 Mon 18-Mar-13 09:15:00

You too ruck and that is awful I would have cried Haha. How sad about your church sad I hope you find a good one you can go to as a family when your little one arrives xx

Beckie - good luck today!
Ruck - hope there are no more mouse adventures... Sorry to hear about the church - that sucks! It's not 1875 any longer, is it? I hope you find a more forward thinking church you connect with thanks

Abilee90 Mon 18-Mar-13 11:30:36

Ok ladies i need to know what u think.
My mum is in spain lives there 8 months a year. I still havent told her i'm preg. A few white lies are in this text but i domt want to upset her for telling her earlier. Tell me what u think. We did wait til all results came bk before anyone was told. So anyway this is the text. Please be honest smile

Hey mum, been desperate to tell you but we needed to wait for test results to come back. We are having another baby. A little boy :D hes due on 6th august. We found out on 23rd of feb. didnt even know i was preg, the pill i was on doesnt have a break to have a period. So didnt even realise. We only found out due to having full blood test done. A tad shocked at the time. We havent told anyone as we wanted to make sure all was ok as my meds for my knee could have caused complications. But got results back this morning and hes perfect. So your gonna be a nan again smile xxx

Thanks smile xxx

Abilee90 Mon 18-Mar-13 11:43:04

I've told her! I just phoned her and shes over the moon. I feel like a weight has been lifted of my shoulders xx

Abbie - great that you've told her and she's happy! It must be a relief!

duende Mon 18-Mar-13 12:21:59

Abbie, pleased you told your mum and she is happy, must be a huge relief for you. No idea how you managed to keep
It quiet for so long, I would burst!

We had the scan this morning, all looks good and we are having a girl grin
Now need to convince DS it will be fun to have a sister smile

Stopsittingonyoursister Mon 18-Mar-13 12:38:20

Duende what lovely news!! Team Pink!! Little girls are fab, and your DS will be a fabulous older brother I remember thinking when I found out I was having a girl for DC2 that I would get to be mother of the bride, and she would never struggle for a boyfriend because she can just date her older brother's friends and he would "vet" them to make sure they were ok - how weird is that?!

beckie good luck for your scan today.

abbie glad that your Mum was pleased!

woofers my reply was a bit of an essay wasn't it, sorry about that!! Hopefully you got the gist of my reply!

remembering hope you feel better today, was the MW reassuring?

ruck my god, how awful! I would have screamed, dead or not! That's awful news about your Church; we attend the 10am services at York Minster and take the kids to Sunday School there (DH grew up as part of a cathedral congregation - sang in the choir and his Dad was a Canon, so village churches just didn't work for us) and even the Minster fuddyduddys have realised that children in Church are A Good Thing for the future! Hope you manage to find something to suit you soon, a supportive congregation and a church with lots of child-focused activities can be a very lovely thing.

Been to soft play today, as have run out of ideas to entertain a two year old at home with snow (well, slush) on the ground outside. Am fed up of the weather now, really need to see some sun! Might bake some buns this afternoon, just to pass the time! Will have to see if I can dig out any remaining mini eggs, and at least try to make the buns seasonal, even if the weather isn't co-operating.

RuckAndRoll Mon 18-Mar-13 13:12:31

Abi Glad you told your mum and she's happy. I was really nervous about telling my Dad as he would know we had sex! (been married 3 years but still!).

duende congratulations on your scan and a girl to add to the mix. All of you finding out is making me not want to stay team yellow and find out.

Stopsitting Really glad you have somewhere family friendly. We went to a service there when we were on holiday once, beautiful place. Our place is really family friendly to the outsider. Baby toys in a sound looped foyer then sunday school out in the hall, but the view is that parents with children should spend the whole service sat in the foyer in case they disrupt people. I have no problem taking the child out if it's disruptive, but how's it going to learn if it's never in church? argh, really upset DH and I this weekend talking about taking the baby down to church for the first time and I'm not excited about introducing the baby to our friends, I'm more scared about it crying and getting tutted at. Sad thing is there's a huge thread over in philosophy/religion with loads of people finding the same thing.

10 days until I get to see the baby again smile


Abilee90 Mon 18-Mar-13 13:17:26

Thanks everyone!

Ruck - i just did know what she would do or say but she was over the moon. She wasnt around when dd was born and met her when she was 7 months. So shes excited about being involved and having a newborn around smile now got to try and convience her not to be around in my labour xx

RuckAndRoll Mon 18-Mar-13 13:43:46

Abi ha I've had that debate with DM and DMIL already. DMIL wants to come and stay for 4 weeks (lives 8 hrs away) so she can support her son during labour as he'll be busy supporting me so who's going to look after him?!
It'll be great to have your mum around this time by the sounds of things.

Stiggley Mon 18-Mar-13 14:03:01

congrats on the team news - we are finding out on Thursday, all being well. My sickness has gone and freaked me out and I didn't feel movement for 2 days, so went to the dr as very concerned - but all is ok - being paranoid. feels odd not throwing up every day!

I saw my folks for the first time since announcing pg to them yesterday - they didn't even mention the pg at all! I don't think they are too happy with it - it will be their last grandchild (they have 12) but maybe DM will be excited when born!

Isisizzie Mon 18-Mar-13 14:04:16

We had our scan today to. Baby all okay and it's a surprise. Pic on FB.

Abilee90 Mon 18-Mar-13 14:06:57

Ruck - hopefully she'll be a great support and wont get in the way. I dont always see eye to eye with dm so hopefully this can be as relaxed as possible. My mil also said this to me about whos gonna look after me, i wasnt so nice as dh is a man and should be able to cope. Plus she only lives 5 mins round the corner. I just wanted to say typical. Hopefully your mil will also help with baby and you. Not just the son.

Congrates on your scan duende and a pink bump aww! I have a dd and i love it. Cant wait to have a boy this time

4 days til scan
20 weeks smile xxx

FoofFighter Mon 18-Mar-13 14:31:32

ahhh another girl to even it up a little smile how lovely Duende

Locketjuice Mon 18-Mar-13 15:00:45

They have postponed my scan until 5th April hmm and just got a letter to say I will be under extra care as first baby had a complicated pregnancy and went in to labour and 24 weeks but thankfully they gave me hormones and stopped it, so have a appointment for that too... Also have a water infection which is what made me go into early labour last time so been doctors for her to not realise I was pregnant and give me the wrong ones only once she said oh use extra precaution as you can get pregnant on these did I realise she hadn't noticed and had to tell her, she then said ohh sorry don't get the dirt antibiotics I have given you a prescription for then it will harm the baby!! Didn't seem bothered at all!! hmm

beckie90 Mon 18-Mar-13 15:19:21

Scan also done here too, still team blue smile all is well.

Congrats to the other ladies on scans today :D xx

MrsPennyapple Mon 18-Mar-13 15:45:16

Ruck That's sad about your church. How do they expect the congregation to carry on, and even grow, if they won't tolerate children and babies? It seems a little mean-spirited. I'm afraid I'd continue going to the same one, change is a fact of life, they'll have to live with it. Let them think of it as a lesson in tolerance if it helps them! Remind them that God welcomes all into his house? (I should say I'm not actually religious, but I was raised in a very religious household so I am aware just how much it means if you are.)

Snufflebabe I am 20 weeks today and only this week have started to feel proper kicks and thumps. I didn't feel very much at all until a few days ago, when I felt baby do a big roll over, he / she must have been in a position where I just couldn't feel the movements.

Abi Glad you got a positive response from your mum! Must be lovely to be able to share the excitement with her now.

Waves to everyone else!

TrixieLulamoon Mon 18-Mar-13 16:15:02

Afternoon Ladies,

Well I had my scan on Friday and, sorry to rock the uneven team boat again, I am team BLUE! Have 2 dd so DH is made up (it's his first so I think he would have been either way).

We have chosen a name. We LOVE it, only MILFH (mother in law from hell) hates the name and even said it was STUPID. We are not changing our minds though, we still love it and she can go take a long walk off of a short pier. Sorry, rant over!!

I have fallen in love with the Bugaboo Cameleon in the Sahara colour. Im soooooo gutted it is probably out of our price range though maybe, just maybe we can manage it? Argh, i love it! If we don't manage to get that, the Icandy peach that DH doesnt like Sola is our second choice.

Ruck Im not religious either but totally agree with MrsPenny , I would just carry on going anyway. Church is not some kind of exclusive club where they can pick and choose the congregation!

Stig YAY for no more sickness! I seem to have replaced my sicky feelings with heartburn sad


muddybloodypuddles Mon 18-Mar-13 17:24:57

trixie - congrats on your team blue scan - am intrigued about the name now... yes MILFH can do one lol!

Duende congrats on your pink scan!

Ruck - our church tries to welcome children but not sure if the congregation agree! We're not regular attendees though...it does seem too much hassle!

Stiggy - how fab your sickness has ended! Just need to get some of that for waves now

locket - i really do wonder about some of these doctors!! They're really hit and miss!

My scan is on Wednesday - am excited but also getting a bit nervous in case there's anything wrong, I know odds are they would have spotted something at the 12 week scan but doesn't stop me worrying. Hopefully everything will be okay and will also be able to see which team we are!

Whoever said pregnancy 2nd time round whilst looking after a toddler is a lot more tiring I def agree!! Glad its not just me! At first thought I was being a bit crap but I suppose sitting down at a desk most of the day in first pregnancy compared to running around and entertaining a 3yr old are quite different!

muddybloodypuddles Mon 18-Mar-13 17:25:43

oh yes forgot to add 20 weeks today!! Exactly half way there now!! grin

Chuckaluck Mon 18-Mar-13 18:20:58

Hi all, congrats on all the scans. We have scan tomorrow - am feeling worried but hopefully all will be well smile

RugBugs Mon 18-Mar-13 19:32:59

Hurray for good scans today!

Muddy I'm still waiting for this rise in energy I've been told to expect. DD is 28mths and I'm sure she's teething at the minute, lots of drool and clinging.

Wavering about finding out the sex now.
Realised we have enough white newborn so the planning clothes reason is out. The only positive I can think of is that with DD I was so out of it when she was delivered I didn't understand what the mw was showing me! Didn't help I had to take out my lenses so couldn't see the mw let alone the baby she had in her hands!
DD doesn't understand boy/girl yet so can't use that as a reason.

How did everyone else decide?

FoofFighter Mon 18-Mar-13 19:45:42

trixie, congrats on your boy :D Re the cam - could you get a normal one in sand (or an older one?) and get some extra orange or brown fabrics to kind of fake your own sahara?

Woofers Mon 18-Mar-13 20:13:57

Re finding out sex of babe. Dh has always wanted to know at 20w for practicalities
I was undecided.
Then a friend said she found out because her dh was insisting on calling her bump a boy, so she thought it would be important for him. And my dm has said finding out the sex helps the dad to bond and be involved in the pregnancy.

I think my dh needs to know its a girl so he has 20 w to get used to the idea. At the moment bump is a boy.

Me "what if Herbert is a girl?"
Dh "we will call HIM herberta"

I think I may have some work to do if its a girl grin

Ps we aren't calling it Herbert, or herberta - Bertie for a boy. Family name.

beckie90 Mon 18-Mar-13 20:14:10

Congrats trixie smile

chuck are you finding out tomorow or staying a Suprise? Good luck smile


MrsWajs Mon 18-Mar-13 21:04:31

Woofers Bertie is cute! DP is hell bent on this baby being a girl so I think he needs to find out at 20 weeks incase it's a boy. It took him a good week to get over the fact that DD was a girl!

MuddyPuddles I'll definitely agree that second time round with toddler is much more tiring!

Congrats on all the scan news, we're still pretty top heavy with boys though!!

My scan is exactly a month away now hmm and I have an appt the day before at the dental hospital to have my wisdom teeth removed - don't think that will be happening as I will need a general anaesthetic and they won't do it whilst pg! Anyone any experience of having it done under local?? It's not the pain thing that's the issue it's the noises and the pulling whilst I'm awake that freaks me out!

muddybloodypuddles Mon 18-Mar-13 21:24:00

mrswajs - i would call the hosp and tell them you're pg (if they don't know already), you can't have general - I was on the waiting list for wisdom teeth to be removed and had consultation a month or so ago, we agreed it would be better to wait until I wasn't pg anymore, so we re-made the consultation appt for Sep which means I will be re-put on the waiting list from then. We agreed it was better not to have chemicals pumped in unless absolutely necessary.

rugsWith regards to reasons for finding out sex, it is both for me and DH to bond and also so I can tell DS it will be a brother or sister. I found it a bit difficult to bond with DS when he was born as I fully expected him to be a girl!! i also want to buy a few colour bits and sell the huge amount of boxes of clothes I have for DS if not a boy - as we will not be having any more DC's. With DS main reason for not finding out was it's the only part that is still a surprise with pregnancy, a secret only the baby knows (and thought it may help with final pushing lol)

PixieBaby Mon 18-Mar-13 21:28:45

Hello everyone - I am due in early August and just found this thread. My scan is on Thursday, I am excited but also nervous in terms of hoping everything is okay.

This is my first child. DH and I would love to find out whether we are having a little boy or girl. Sorry to the team yellow folks!

beckie90 Mon 18-Mar-13 21:40:52

Welcome pixie smile

rugs I decided because as it was my 3rd and already having 2 boys I'd got convinced this was a girl so I wanted to know for sure rather then be shocked when he come out a he cause my mind was like 90% convinced lol. I also feel that I can bond better once i know and just the fact I'm impatient. I knew with both my boys and the births were still super special. However ds1 is really Adamant he wants a girl, he's been telling me off today lol, he said mum is the baby a boy I said yea were having another boy he said but I want a girl though and I want her to be called ruby or isabelle Haha. xx

Abilee90 Mon 18-Mar-13 21:46:43

See i dont think it matters if you know sex to baby or not, all the excitement is to meet them and have that first initial cuddle. I knew and i pushed as hard as possible to meet her. So i wouldnt take that into consideration.

I just tried to explain why i want a relaxed water birth and he told me i was silly :/ typical. Well if i can have it, i am end of. I have nightmares of my labour and wake up shaking and sweating. So i'm desperate for a relaxed and calm labour. Praying that i'm gonna get what i want. Also no 3rd degree tear please!xx

duende Mon 18-Mar-13 21:54:56

mrswajs i had two wisdom teeth removed during one appointment under just local. It was awful, like you say, It wasn't even the pain (although it was painful) but the crunching noises, the pulling, etc. the dentist who did it was really skinny and petite and it turned out she was really struggling to pull them out, as she just lacked the strength. If I had to have it done again, I'd go to the biggest bloke I could find.

RugBugs Mon 18-Mar-13 22:06:13

Abi I think you have hit the nail on the head! It doesn't matter if we know or not which makes it hard to make a decision!
DP really doesn't mind either which doesn't help.

RugBugs Mon 18-Mar-13 22:09:29

Mrswaj I've had root canal done on a molar and that was bad enough.
It was really uncomfortable how far the dentist had to yank my mouth across to get to the tooth. He used some kind of green splint thing but it didn't really stay in place well and he kept pulling it back up.

Stopsittingonyoursister Mon 18-Mar-13 22:57:01

Urrggh for all the dental talk! mrswajs I'd try and put that off for as long as possible, at least until I could be completely knocked out! Crunching and grinding do not sound pleasant!

Abilee have you ever had a proper debrief from a specialist about your previous labour experience? Waking up having nightmares about labour sounds terrible. Would you consider some form of counselling or hypnotherapy treatment to help you process what happened and give you some help towards staying calm this time round?

Welcome Pixie, best of luck for Thursday!

RugBugs we didn't find out the sex of DS1 because he was our first and we wanted to keep it a surprise. We did find out DD's gender, because we thought it would help DS bond with the baby (he was about 2.5 yrs when we told him) and it was different but just as nice to prepare a pink room rather than a beige room. When it came to pushing, it still felt just as special, because although we knew DD was a girl, we hadn't met her, seen her little face or hands etc iyswim? So it was still just as a lovely as when we were getting to meet DS1. This time, we found out the sex because again, it will hopefully help the kids to bond with this baby, and also we can start to sort out and sell/donate the small mountain of clothes for the gender we no longer need!

Totally agree it is more tiring second (or third!) time round!

Abilee90 Mon 18-Mar-13 23:13:11

Stopsitting - no i havent, i also havent seen midwife since booking at 10 weeks because i'm under comsultant care but hopefully at 24 weeks i can talk to her about it all and hopefullu get some sort of support. Its terrible these dreams, i also feel the pain in these dreams. I felt like i was being tortured let alone having a baby. Sorry all first time mummys!

Most defo more tiring this time around. Dd has me on my feet 24/7 and then there is trying to run a house.

Dh now has the hump as i said i might be up for bedrooms activity but baby is really hurting me and stomach is so tender and my knee is killing me. So will just have to go to bed with stroop on.


MrsPennyapple Mon 18-Mar-13 23:17:25

MrsWajs I have had a wisdom tooth out under local, and it was a breeze! Admittedly, it wasn't being removed because of normal wisdom tooth problems - it needed a filling, and due to the position of the cavity, there just wasn't room for the dentist to actually do the filling, so the tooth had to come out. It was so quick and easy, I could have wept with relief. I didn't tell anyone in advance, because if there is one thing guaranteed to bring out the dental horror stories, it's telling someone you're having a wisdom tooth out.

Woofers Bertie is a lovely name smile

Christelle2207 Tue 19-Mar-13 09:33:28

just had scan @ 20+4, all perfect and still on team yellow. apparently have anterior placenta which explains not feeling much. vvv relieved.

Great news on the scan christelle.

I got an extra peep yesterday, had my consultant appt and she had a little look, to give me a boost I think!

I'm seeing her regularly in hospital now and next scheduled appt is in 4 weeks, midwives in 3 weeks. I really hope to turn a corner soon in terms of the Hyperemesis. Stbxh moves out in 6 days so the removal of that stress may well ease the physical symptoms. I'm actually looking forward to putting on weight!

21 weeks

beckie90 Tue 19-Mar-13 11:19:53

abi thats shocking I'm on consultant care too, but I saw my midwife at 10wk booking then at my 12wk scan my consultant at 12wks then my midwife at 16 again. It's prob different procedure round here to your area, but I still think going from 10 to 24wk without seeing a midwife is terrible sad xx

Abilee90 Tue 19-Mar-13 13:33:03

I see consultant twice a week so i gather thats why. Shes always on bloody holiday also. Next time i see her is 18th of april.
But then consultant is great and does all the normal, so not much different. Gtt is booked for may 14 :/ great.

Anyone else get a hard patch on belly where baby is. I seem to get a lump where he is laying, it sticks out. Defo him
Aswell, as i put my home doppler on the spot and pick up his heart beat. Maybe his very pushed forward?

Hurry up fri! Want to see my little man again!
20+1 smile xxx

Woofers Tue 19-Mar-13 13:35:40

A little winge. Picked up mother in law from her work this morning to take her home. I was a little late so She had a comment about being late getting up.

I was infact vomiting in the garden for 10 min unable to move!!

So I said actually I wasn't well.

Oh? Have you tried dry biscuits or ginger?!

Fucking ginger????!!!!! confusedconfusedconfusedconfusedconfusedconfused

Woofers Tue 19-Mar-13 13:35:59

A little winge. Picked up mother in law from her work this morning to take her home. I was a little late so She had a comment about being late getting up.

I was infact vomiting in the garden for 10 min unable to move!!

So I said actually I wasn't well.

Oh? Have you tried dry biscuits or ginger?!

Fucking ginger????!!!!! confusedconfusedconfusedconfusedconfusedconfused

I feel your pain woofers! I had the dieticiain visit me at hospital this morning and even she suggested ginger biscuits. As if I would have got to 21 weeks without having tried flipping everything.

I'm out of hospital but back to daily visits from tomorrow given my spectacular failure to cope last week. I had so little sleep last night, I feel exhausted.

Pregnancy, meant to be a happy glowing time? Meh.

RuckAndRoll Tue 19-Mar-13 14:10:44

waves and woofers you have more self restraint than I would've! my SIL suggested the same to me and got a rather sarcastic response.

glad you're onto day care again waves.

I'm off sick again after a flare up of my ongoing med condition. I can't medicate it like normal so was up all night in agony. Always fun. But on the plus side, baby is wriggling so hopefully happy.

beckie90 Tue 19-Mar-13 14:41:14

abi yea i get a hard lump stick out like his back or something I can normally always feel Were he's laid, strange lol xx

Abilee90 Tue 19-Mar-13 15:57:25

A bit down hearted today! The house we put in an offer has a completion of 6/7 months time. Plus our offer got refused feel gutted. So depressed atm. Now to worry about having no where to live by the end of august and i've became all teary! Sometimes i just wanna scream for f* sake!

Waiting for luck to change xx

Mrsd77 Tue 19-Mar-13 17:53:44

Hi all! Long time no post I know! I'm a champion lurker though!

Just had twenty week scan and all is well. So relieved! Even summoned up the nerve to make a couple of purchases. Very pleased with my spotty muslins!

Add me to team yellow please!

DH so chuffed it looks like I may have talked him into us having a new pram. It's been a good day!


BrieMonster Tue 19-Mar-13 19:27:57

Have been lurking just not joining in much. Glad to hear all the good news and hope those of you suffering get some respite soon. It has to end right?
Had my 20 week scan in 2 parts and finally found out today that all looks well including a willy. Hadn't realised how much I'd convinced myself this was a girl... But am stoked. Big brother will be 2 and a bit when this one comes along.

I'm jealous of all the new, even new secondhand, buggy buying. We'll be sticking with what we have. In fact we have blinking everything we need which is great for the purse but hope I don't make up for it but splurging on daft stuff. Oh we'll.

BrieMonster Tue 19-Mar-13 19:28:43

Oh and 21 + 3.

Woofers Tue 19-Mar-13 20:18:46

Sorry about that abi. Bit of a stumbling block!
Mind you there are loads of houses coming on the market so you might find one which is perfect and wanting a quick sale.

Ggrrrrr ginger biscuits. Dietician. Pfft. Did she say anything that was useful? I've prescribed myself ice cream as and when able to ensure I get calories or something like that

I'm booked in with an osteopath for a painful hip / bum. Il let you know how I get on. I've seen him before for back pain and shoulder pain and I was fixed in 6 sessions.

woofers I have been given loads of fortijuice drinks by the dietician, and a prescription for more, which are grim drunk neat, but can be diluted down, or made into icelollies. There are 300 calories in each drink, so hoping that I'll get calories/nutrition that way....Good luck with the osteopath!

Woofers Tue 19-Mar-13 21:23:53

Eugh forti-juice. Keep that thanks. Il keeps to my magnum ice cream grin

beckie90 Tue 19-Mar-13 21:24:19

brie congrats on team blue baby smile xx

Dexidoo Wed 20-Mar-13 06:51:46

woofers I go to an osteopath for low back/sacroiliac pain find it really good, especially now popping the odd ibuprofen is off limits.
Only thing is standing in bra and pants with wobbly bits exposed is a bit unnerving to start with.

Not sure if I'm starting to feel movements or if I have wind!!


Dexidoo Wed 20-Mar-13 06:58:10

Been trying to find the FB group- can anyone point me in the right direction? Only thing is I'm on private profile not sure if that makes a difference

JollyYellowGiant Wed 20-Mar-13 07:15:53

Lost you guys for a while!
16+6 here
And I'm 27 years old today, hurrah!

Locketjuice Wed 20-Mar-13 07:21:55

Happy birthday! thanksthanks

Locketjuice Wed 20-Mar-13 07:23:11

And dexidoo its private so you won't be able to find it, you need to change your setting to allow them to find you think its abi or Becky that will add you smile

beckie90 Wed 20-Mar-13 08:03:13

dexi if you search me Rebecca fairhurst my profile is searchable, got dark wavy hair in pik, i will add you to it.

jolly happy birthday :D


RuckAndRoll Wed 20-Mar-13 08:25:11

I need your help ladies.

I have a stomach condition which I can't medicate as normal at the moment, normally it flares up for no more than 6 hours. I had a flare up monday night, up all night, on and off all day yesterday, now in agony, can't stand upright. Pretty sure Iit's stomach, not baby, but think I need help but don't know who to turn to. GP, midwife, hospital?

Think work is off again today.

Happy Birthday Jolly thanks

Isisizzie Wed 20-Mar-13 08:27:44

Happy birthday Jolly. xxx

JollyYellowGiant Wed 20-Mar-13 08:31:08

Thank you lovely ladies.

Ruck, I would go with any of them. Wherever you will get seen quickest would be best. MW probably least useful as I doubt she can prescribe or take real action.

RuckAndRoll Wed 20-Mar-13 08:43:38

Thanks Jolly, I phoned the GP in tears and have an appointment later this morning which is pretty miraculous for them. Spoke to DH and he said if need me he'll come and get me and we'll go up to the hospital. not been in this much pain with it before.

May be back later but now I'm off to cry for a bit.

RugBugs Wed 20-Mar-13 08:45:45

Happy Birthday Jolly!

Congrats on joining team blue Brie

Sorry to hear about the house Abi.

I would go to your GP Ruck they will have a better idea of medicines and then can make sure it's ok to prescribe.

MrsPennyapple Wed 20-Mar-13 10:24:45

Happy Birthday Jolly!

Ruck Hope your doctor can help, it sounds horrid sad

I went into Boots yesterday with the intention of spending some of my points on a nice unisex outfit, but didn't see anything particularly great. There were some nice bits that were obviously boyish or girly, but nothing unisex that grabbed me. I looked in mothercare too, again nothing that took my fancy. Would prefer to buy from Boots really so that it doesn't actually "cost" anything.

Appointment with MW later today, looking forward to hearing baby's heartbeat. Have been feeling more movements this week, which is nice.

RuckAndRoll Wed 20-Mar-13 11:58:54

well the Dr was really nice. listened in to babies heartbeat for reassurance. nothing she.can do for the pain other than suggest my original medication. going to talk to dh tonight and see what we decide. if I go onto it again I get growth scans every 2 weeks which will be nice. every cloud and all that I suppose.

muddybloodypuddles Wed 20-Mar-13 14:54:20

Hello - 20wk scan today and we are team pink! Have put a scan pick up on FB.
Sorry for those who have already read on FB but have placenta praevia so bit scary, another scan booked for 32wks to check the position of the placenta (hopefully it will have moved), she basically said not to lift anythign or any vigorous exercise. I had a low lying placenta with DS but it was only slightly low whereas this one is completely covering the cervix! Isn't pregnancy fun at times! Other than that the baby wouldn't stop moving so the scan actually took 45mins as the sonographer was very thorough and wanted to check everything!

Happy Birthday Jolly!


Beckett3 Wed 20-Mar-13 15:27:40

Happy Birthday Jolly

Congratulations to others that have had good scans and joined their teams.

Also just had 20 week scan and also joining team pink! Maybe it's evening out now?

I have an anterior placenta which explains why although this is baby no.4 I've only just started feeling kicks. All measurements came back as spot on for dates.


Chuckaluck Wed 20-Mar-13 17:13:03

Had my scan yesterday. Baby was all ok. Measurements fine but baby is long!! They have 15 non appts here and baby would not comply with last 2 measurements that sonOgrapher wanted so get another scan in 2 weeks - secretly pleased I have a naughty baby!!

We are team yellow too!

Got my first appt with consultant tomorrow. Am a bit nervous. Thought my cousin was coming with me but she can't now but I will be brave and go on my own!

Ruck hope you are feeling a bit better, sounds horrible flowers

21+2 smile

Woofers Wed 20-Mar-13 21:18:33

There are 15 Rebecca fairhursts on fb. I want To join the secret group!!

Rebecca you will have to have a pic of you with a red carnation so we know its you!!

I have had the worst day at work. confused

Roll on end of July .......

Abilee90 Wed 20-Mar-13 21:20:46

Woofers she the top one with big boobies lol! Check her friends for me abbie lee smith smile

Happy birthday jolly!

beckie90 Wed 20-Mar-13 21:52:29

Abbie I just choked on my cough Haha. The one with the big boobies lmao. I'm from barnsley woofers if it says that xx

Abilee90 Wed 20-Mar-13 22:05:28

Haha well its true! Xx

TrixieLulamoon Thu 21-Mar-13 10:02:00

Morning Ladies,

Happy belated birthday Jolly

Congrats on healthy scans and good to see team pink on the rise!

Came for a little moan re work. They have been lovely, and was only here for like 5 months before I fell pregnant. Really laid back place and am very happy here. However, if we have days off sick, the next time we get holiday pay they deduct a percentage from our holiday pay depending on how many days off sick in that holiday period. I'm pretty sure this is illegal??! Anyhow, I have been taking holiday days off for scans etc as I don't drive and bus journeys between workplace and hospital would take forever! So was basically being nice in taking my holidays so they didn't have to pay me for like 3 or 4 hours when I wouldn't be in the office (I see consultant after scans and the wait time can be horrendous, plus then the public transport time on top.) I'm just so angry. It's only a few pounds here and there (like £3 per day) but it really isn't the point.

Sorry for moan!

Have a lovely day ladies, while i hope my boss doesn't have a key logger on the computers!!!!!


Abilee90 Thu 21-Mar-13 10:09:07

22 hours til my scan! This will be my 5th scan and i'm even more excited for this 1 than any of the others!

Off into town today and to pop into adopted mums for a cuppa smile treating elle to a new dress and my little man an outfit!

My mum is really over the moon and really excited. Which is lovely but now she keeps saying hurry up and have him :/ this may make the pregnancy drag.

Found a dress for mil wedding in july, got to wage how big i am gonna be and order it smile its a lovely maxi dress with diamonte detail on the bust in a lovely deep purple.

My little man is on a figit, i keep getting a cravings for strawberries with whipped cream yummy lol.

20+3 smile xxx

muddybloodypuddles Thu 21-Mar-13 11:04:50

Trixie - that doesn't sound right to me either, you ought to question it or at least check it out, I'm sure you know you don't have to take holiday for pregnancy related appointments so maybe at least stop doing that as you may want to save up holiday to use before mat leave (I saved up a whole 6wks with ds!) it doesn't matter how long it takes you to get there and back or how long the consultant takes - it is the law that you are entitled to that time off...

Woofers Thu 21-Mar-13 11:08:21

Trixi does your work have a maternity policy? If not have a look on d o w p website at the guidance regarding annual leave, sick leave and attending maternity apts. I am almost sure that you have to be paid for attending mat apts. x

RuckAndRoll Thu 21-Mar-13 11:08:26

trixie they're breaking the law wrt the antenatal appointments if you have to take annual leave. Your rights

It looks like I'm going to have growth scans and consultant appointments every two weeks, on top of the usual midwife appointments. It takes me an hour on the bus each way plus time for late buses etc it takes up a lot of time. Work aren't too happy but they have to and they know it.

Christelle2207 Thu 21-Mar-13 11:10:14

trixie it is the law that they have to give you time off (i.e. paid) for antenatal appointments though tbh if you've been there less than a year they might not be obliged to, either way you need to check with out with hr.
I know appointments are a pain, I get round it (partly) by working from home on days I have to be at the hospital, makes more more productive, not sure if this is an option for you.

beckie90 Thu 21-Mar-13 11:32:35

Woofers have you added me on fb? Got an add and don't want to add n then add to group if its not you lol xx

TrixieLulamoon Thu 21-Mar-13 11:48:54

Thanks for your replies, I was aware I am entitled to paid time off for these appointments, and they are not making me take holidays. I chose to because, to be honest, I couldn't be bothered to mess around with the bus! Doing the 45 minute journey to work for 30 mins then setting off for the hospital. Though, I didn't take a holiday for my midwife appointment, which made me 2 hours late which they haven't paid me for!

I am going to have a word with the lady that does the payroll tomorrow, I'm getting really peed off with having money taken out of my wage! And will mention the 2 hours pay for my midwife appt.

On a lighter note, I have calmed down a bit and have a very wriggly boy in my belly today, which is nice.

Foof Normal cameleon is slowly slipping out of our price range too now, seeing so many nice things to buy!

Stiggley Thu 21-Mar-13 15:08:17

Hello all. Just back from scan. Am joining team pink as I predicted. Dd will be very happy. Picture was pretty rubbish but at least everything is ok which is all that matters.

beckie90 Thu 21-Mar-13 16:18:31

Pinks evening out now smile congrats stiggley xx

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Thu 21-Mar-13 16:59:33

Hi all,

Just a query really. My 29 week scan is on Monday (yay smile) and after checking with a Midwife if this was ok we have asked my mum to come along with us. This was to thank her really for all she has done for us, she has always been so lovely and supportive and was so thrilled when we told her we were having a baby. She never had scans during her pregnancies and hasn't been to the scans of my nieces and nephews. I was really looking forward to it.

Anyway... My boyfriend's mum has asked outright if she can come and has started asking whether my mum is going. I had asked him to tell her because I didn't want to lie to her, but he has just said he doesn't know yet. My mum said to let her come too but I don't want her there! She is a very difficult woman who fits the narcissistic mould to a tee. She can be charming but at other times is nasty and manipulative, she has said and done horrible things to us then denies them, we are not her favourites and she makes this blatantly obvious.

I felt sorry for her when I saw her last, but she was charm personified, it won't be long until she starts down the nasty road again and I don't see why we should let her play happy families now just for her to shut us out when it suits. She massively favours her other child and it is so hurtful to my lovely boyfriend.

So, I am sorry for the epic post but am I being an utter bitch? I wanted this to be special for my mum and apart from that it is an important scan and it is important the sonographer can get on with their job.


beckie90 Thu 21-Mar-13 17:07:34

ijustwore no I don't think you are, my mum didn't know I was preg till today so didn't come to my scan, so I had to ask dp's mum to come with us to watch the kids in Waiting area. But she come to pick us up she bought her step sons girlfriend with her too without asking, then started saying why don't you leave L (my partner) at home with kids then I can come in with you, I said no sorry I want him with me hes the farther then when we got to hospital she said I think he's best to stay out here to watch the kids Il go in, for a moment I was going to accept it then just thought no why should i, I want my partner in. So told her no again. She royaly did my head in if I must say so. So no your not been a bitch, I wouldn't have wanted her to come either but had no choice as my hospital don't allow kids in the scan room till all checks are complete xx

Woofers Thu 21-Mar-13 17:39:21

Yes that's me. - rosy grin

I have no intention on taking any mother with me to any scans (apart from my 12w scan when my dh couldn't get time off work and my surrogate mum came)

I asked my mum to come and see the wedding dress I chose, not millions, the one. Only one dress. She asked if she could buy a paper on the way because she wasn't that interested. I took my m I L to the final fitting and she spent the entire time on her phone texting someone. So they have both got their cards marked in my book.

It's non of your MiL business who goes with you to the scan. Offer to buy her a picture, and promptly ask her for the £4 to buy it.
What does your dh say?
If you have to justify your reason then explain that you want your mum to support you. After all it is all about you!! Your the one who has to put up with the body changes, the birth, the sleeplessness, etc. . . .thanksthanks Good luck! thanksthanks

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Thu 21-Mar-13 17:42:03

That sounds awful, her putting you on the spot like that! Like something my boyfriend's mum would do. My problem is when she is going through a nice phase it is easy to forget the bad times. She is already making noises about being at the birth so she can 'bond'. There is just no way! I'm quite a private person and it would stress me out to have have her there. Utterly ridiculous to suggest you can't bond with a child unless you attend the scan or birth!

FoofFighter Thu 21-Mar-13 17:56:46

Trenchcoat - is there not a limit on how many people you can have anyway at the scan wink (although there really is at my hospital, one companion only)

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Thu 21-Mar-13 18:16:46

My boyfriend wants my mum there too, even said she could go instead of him if only one person was allowed, bless him! I don't want him to miss out though. It's just it was my mum I was sobbing to the morning of my first scan because I was so worried, and I am her only daughter so it just feels like a little payback for her being so lovely!

I checked with the Midwife at my 16 week scan and she said it was fine to take more than one person, but I might phone the US department tomorrow just to double check!

There were 2 seats time, though I suppose one of those could have been for the pregnant woman if there was anything to discuss. Still, it is a good excuse if nothing else that there is a 2 person limit say.

Abilee90 Thu 21-Mar-13 18:25:15

Iwore - i would have full blown said the only 2 people who be in my labour will me and dp, end of. My mum was like oh i can come to the labour and my exact no you cant as its a private thing that me and dh do as a couple. I dont want to sound rude but this is our child and you can come up after in visiting time like the other nannys.

Had a crappy afternoon, dd has had major flare up with her eye and i ended up in tears at our doctors. I'm sick to teeth of sticking some sort of medication in her eye. Then they gave me this thick drop stuff and has 7 days to unblock her eye or she will be booked in to have an op. it has taken 15 months to sort all this out. Just a breaking point with it for her. She such a good kid and doesnt kick up a fuss.

Scan in 13 and half hours. Very excited.

Congrates on healthy scans smile


RugBugs Thu 21-Mar-13 18:33:15

Oh bloody hell, no way would I want DPs Mum anywhere near the ultrasound room! I found it intrusive enough that his parents came into see us a few hrs after I had delivered DD, I think if I had people waiting in the hospital for me to give birth I would go crazy!

I was finally able to see GP about spd today, referral sent hurray but she was very adamant that if I'm doing all the right positioning/movement already then it's just going to get worse. I should get crutches and support belt just after Easter though.

DaveMccave Thu 21-Mar-13 18:58:00

Trenchcoat, just tell her it will only be you two?
DP's mum is coming to our 20 wk scan. I suggested it as its her first grandchild and she's very excited. I have only met her a few times and just want her to know she will be included where possible. We will be doing attachment parenting, so think opportunities for her to babysit etc may be limited and I don't want her to think that's just me snubbing her.

I feel really bad that I haven't invited my mum though. My mum is a good grandparent and seems excited but I think a lot of it is because that's what she should do, not how she feels. It's her 6thgrandchild too. She's just not naturally maternal, though she does make an effort even if it doesn't seem genuine. I don't want the room to be too packed though, it's an anomaly scan after all, not entertainment. I think it's best all round that she doesn't know. She did attend my dd's birth, didn't ask if she could, just didn't leave after giving us a lift to hospital, and that still narks me.

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Thu 21-Mar-13 19:15:11

Yes Dave, I don't want a crowd with me, maybe if it was an entertainment scan rather than NHS anomaly. And yes, babysitting opportunities will also be restricted, my boyfriend's mum is already talking about long walks on her own with the pram. Hoping to feed baby myself, so she will be waiting a long time.

My mum might be at the birth with us as well Abi my boyfriend is encouraging it as although he will be there, but has a history of collapsing at anything slightly medical/gory and he doesn't want me to end up on my own. He can go faint even just at medical discussions. I think it's quite sweet, but don't know if I'll still feel like that labouring on my own when he's in A&E attached to an ECG for the umpteenth time! The good thing is she won't be at all offended if she is not asked in. She has said she is more than happy to come/not come/wait outside just in case. It's nice to have at least one mum between us who is not hard work!

Rugbugs did you go straight to the GP regarding SPD or see a Midwife first? I have a thread in pregnancy about this and have read a few others where Midwives have been quit dismissive. Mine was about the sickness-inducing migraines, she didn't even bother, just said paracetamol and to keep hydrated. Paracetamol wouldn't touch them!

RugBugs Thu 21-Mar-13 19:32:53

Straight to GP, I did ask who I should see when I rang for an appt but they booked me in with the lovely GP that's just joined the practice. She was really good actually, the mw is only at my practice an hour a week so I would have had to wait until the Friday after Easter to see her.

Chuckaluck Thu 21-Mar-13 19:35:55

Well my appt did not go as expected today! I thought I would get a lecture on my BMI but ended up with them being very concerned about my blood pressure and possible onset of pre-eclampsia. I now have extra scans and appts booked and blood pressure has to be checked every week by midwife. Went on my own to appt but really wish I hadn't. Got really upset as I think I was shockedsad

Anyone tell me anything about pre-eclampsia as not even sure I know what it is.

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Thu 21-Mar-13 19:37:14

I might have to make an appointment if it doesn't ease soon. To be fair to the Midwives, they don't seem to have a lot o time for 'extras' above checking urine/bp etc.


RugBugs Thu 21-Mar-13 19:52:48

Sorry to hear that Chuck. I had PE with DD and ended up being admitted twice at 36 and 37 weeks. Have you been offered screening for it? There are two blood markers that are particularly indicative of PE. It's pretty manageable if they are on top of it. If you have sustained high bp over a few readings plus protein in urine they might have you go down to an assessment unit for urine collection, more blood tests, fetal heart monitoring. They can prescribe aspirin if they've not already and there are other meds to lower bp if it stays high.

It is important to monitor it so often though as it can escalate quickly. At 36 weeks I was given 24hrs to get bp lower and to monitor my kidney function, I had the surgical team come and discuss delivery by cs which terrified me. Thankfully DDs lows weren't frequent enough and they put me back to weekly assessment at the day unit (and admitted me for induction the next time I went!).

Nightwish Thu 21-Mar-13 20:06:49

Joining team blue!
Scan went well, everything was fine =].

RugBugs Thu 21-Mar-13 20:27:32

Ijustworemytrenchcoat I read your thread and what you've described is very much how mine started, a niggling but bearable pain low in one cheek not unlike a bruised tailbone but it has gotten a lot worse recently and yy to the stiffness if I sit in the same position for any length of time. I find myself having to wiggle my toes a lot to prevent pins and needles too.

Make an appointment as soon as you can so you'll see a physio before it gets worse, I really wish I'd seen someone sooner.

beckie90 Thu 21-Mar-13 20:35:02

Congrats nightwish smile

At my hospital you take 1 companion in with you then once the scans complete and all is well then you can shout family members in to have a look.

abi hope she's ok sad and good luck for your scan in the morning xxx

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Thu 21-Mar-13 21:59:23

Good luck for your scan Abi, and I hope your daughter feels better soon.

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Thu 21-Mar-13 22:02:16

I think I'll take your advice Rugs, before it gets much worse. Thank you.

Stopsittingonyoursister Thu 21-Mar-13 22:53:16

Chuck sorry to hear about the PE. I'm not entirely sure what causes it, but your blood pressure rises, and your kidneys come under a lot of stress, so you get protein in your urine. My DSis had it with her pg. As Rug said, as long as it is picked up it can be managed, but it can become a problem very quickly, so read up on the warning symptoms/signs so you know what you are looking for. My DSis had terribly swollen ankles and blinding headaches IIRC. Hopefully, as they have picked up on it, they will manage it for you, but it might mean a lot more appts for you and sometimes at short notice so you might want to mention it to your work so they are prepared? I hope it all comes to nothing.

Congrats on all the lovely healthy scans - there are so many of them now! It's all very exciting! Good luck for all scans tomorrow!

Trenchcoat it's easier said than done, but my experience of "difficult" MILs is that if you give them an inch, they take a mile. You'll just have to stand your ground, explain your reasoning and if she takes offence, that's her problem. This is about the one time in your life that you can make everything revolve around you and they way you want things to be without feeling guilty. I hope you get your PGP sorted out soon.

Had the most awful day at work today - meant to finish at 3.30 but had to ring my DMum to ask if she could feed the kids and take them up to our house because I just couldn't get away from the office until nearly 5.30. One client very very poorly so had to get everything sorted out just in case anything happens over the weekend. Puts everything into perspective really. Going to make sure I enjoy my weekend now!

Autumn12 Thu 21-Mar-13 23:19:09

I had my scan yesterday and I am also team blue! I must admit to feeling quite disappointed because I have wanted a little girl since I was a little girl myself. The nub theory is total rubbish as that pointed to this baby being a girl. The main thing though is that everything was ok and I know I will love my little boy to bits.

I don't seem to like any boys names though so naming him is going to be a struggle.

Straight after the scan we went and ordered our bugaboo cameleon. DH was so impressed with it he didn't even quibble at the price!

RugBugs Fri 22-Mar-13 08:56:49

Congrats on a good scan Autumn. I don't mind admitting that i will be a little dissapointed if I have a boy. I already have a DD and I foolishly opened the box of all my favourite baby clothes last week and am longing to get them out again.
DP says I can't put a boy in a pink tulle dress sad

My thinking is that men view prams a bit like cars and some of them are a bit crazy about their vehicles! DP also didn't flinch when I ordered our phil and teds back when we got it, I was all ready to defend why we should spend so much!

MrsPennyapple Fri 22-Mar-13 09:11:05

Congrats Autumn, give yourself a bit of time to come round to the idea, your little boy will be lovely smile

We're team yellow, and whilst practically it would be good to have another DD (we kept EVERYTHING so shouldn't need to buy anything), I was in M&S the other day and saw some great outfits for little boys. No reason a girl couldn't wear them too, of course, I just thought what fun it could be dressing a little boy - Robots and monsters all over the place!

zippyrainbowbrite Fri 22-Mar-13 09:35:02

Hi all! have been reading posts and lurking, but not posted anything for a while!

Had 20 wk scan last week, all looks good and another here for team blue - although the sonographer was newly qualified, and didn't seem that confident when she said it! confused

Had DSS's parents evening last night - he's 9, and I thought it wasn't going to go well, as he seems to have had a few issues this year. Was pleasantly surprised, teacher was very positive about saying that he's doing ok, just that he could do so much better if he stopped talking in class and listened!

RuckAndRoll Fri 22-Mar-13 09:40:38

rugbugs it's true, my DH was more excited than me about getting the pram and car seat I think. He saw one he loved (first time we'd actually seen it), admitted to all the secret research he'd been doing, then bought it half an hour later. I barely got a say in the matter!

Congratulations on a healthy scan Autumn. Give yourself some time, we've convinced ourselves this is a boy and I know it'll take some getting used to if it's not. We're staying team yellow (or red or green or orange or multi-coloured!) though.

Hope everyone's feeling ok today, at least it's Friday. I've got the joy of an all day meeting at the church tomorrow to discuss the wonderful 'issue' of children in the service. Should be fun. <note to self - count to 30 before opening mouth and DO NOT hurt anyone!>

beckie90 Fri 22-Mar-13 09:48:58

Congrats autum give yourself some time it will get better. I always imagined having a lil girl ever since I was little, I had a name list for lil girl and everything lol. Im now having my 3rd child and there all boys, I was super shocked because I was convinced this one was a girl, but anyway my 2 lil boys are absolute treasures and I now can't wait to add another lil boy to them smile

Anyone know how many boys and girls we have now? Xx

FoofFighter Fri 22-Mar-13 12:12:06

ooh the boys are definitely winning! Statistically it should be about 51% boys 49% girls, anyone care to go and count how many we've got? [can't be arsed emote]

Still waiting for my pram to turn up drums fingers if it comes too late I shan't have a chance to play with it before OH comes in from work sad

Abilee90 Fri 22-Mar-13 12:19:56

My scan went well (pics on facebook group) little man was curled up asleep and took the lady 50 mins to get everything she needed. Hes bigger than elle and is measuring 80th to 95th centile :/ hes gonna be huge. Also he was blowing bubbles. I never knew they could do this but we got pics of him doing it. Strange. Amazing to watch. Was really strange.

Dd is off her food and just wants to drink milk. But temp is now down. My poor moo.


muddybloodypuddles Fri 22-Mar-13 14:52:11

autumn - congrats on good scan - I felt a bit strange when ds was born as I'd convinced myself it was a girl, it took a little while to get used to it and I felt I didn't bond so well at the beginning which is why we found out at 20wk scan so we've got another 20wks to get used to it. couldnt imagine him being anything else now though grin

abi - glad scan went well - my as was huge too, was v worried about going over edd, but luckily he came on the edd day but was still 8lb 13!

ijustwore - I have pgp which is on one side of my pelvis, the pain goes from lower back down through left buttock - I have physio appt next week which was through mw, but she us a v good and thorough mw. I have also just started antenatal pilates which should help, although my muscles are still aching from the first class on Wed - think I'm a bit unfit!!

Have been to the library today and got a couple of books for ds from the 'situations' bit about baby in mummy's tummy or new baby coming - trying to break it to him gently :-)

muddybloodypuddles Fri 22-Mar-13 14:54:36

Abi - I didn't mean my ass was huge (although...) blimin autocorrector always changes DS to as confused

beckie90 Fri 22-Mar-13 15:13:39

I posted earlier but not shown sad

abbie ds2 was on the top line for his measurments. He was 9ib.

Haha muddy my as was huge too lmao that made me chuckle


Creamtea1 Fri 22-Mar-13 15:57:23

Hi August ladies - just popping in from sept thread (I'm due 5th sept)
Quick question - I'm on dc3 and I haven't felt any movements yet (16+1) am I a bit early? When did you all start feeling things, I thought I would have by now. Only think I'm wondering is that with dc2 I had a low lying placenta so if I have that again maybe that affects it?

beckie90 Fri 22-Mar-13 16:12:03

creamtea I'm on Dc3 too, some little flutters earlier on like 12wks but only very faint and not often could go ages without feeling anything. They got more apparant by 15/16wk but my placenta is posterior, so it could be you have low like you said or anterior, but everyone feels at dif times anyway. I know a few on here have only just started to feel them smile

Beckett3 Fri 22-Mar-13 17:28:49

creamtea1 I'm pregnant with dc4 and couldn't be absolutely sure I'd felt anything before 18 weeks, it turns out I have an anterior placenta though.

BrieMonster Fri 22-Mar-13 19:14:45

That's my birthday creamtea!! I am only on number two but had to wait til about 20 weeks to feel proper movements.. Was getting a bit worried too as I heard it was supposed to be sooner. Probably had flutters at 19 but was only sure at 20. Unstoppable now! Won't be long for you I'm sure.

MrsWajs Sat 23-Mar-13 02:14:05

I've been lurking but not posting, can't seem to post from my phone anymore!?

Re: dentist - you've all thoroughly put me off having it done under local so I will just rearrange it for after baby is born I think!

trenchcoat I don't think you're being a bitch at all about not allowing MIL to come to the scan, it's completely up to you what you do. My mum came to my 12 weeks scan this time because DP couldn't get time off work but he will be coming for the 20 week one. I did however have my mum in with me when I had DD, just as well cus DP didn't cope all that well. Not sure whether to have her with us again but she's keen so will see how I feel nearer the time, will depend if I need her to babysit or not!! MIL will visit at visiting time, same as everyone else (no love lost there).

Autumn & RugBugs I'm a little bit like you guys and would really like another girl but I will be equally happy with a boy once the idea grows on me! I thought for ages it was a boy and now am back to thinking its a girl - still agggeesss to go til scan and DP says no to private one - harrruummph!

Creamtea Hello fellow September person (am due on 1st) I've not been feeling much either and on DC2 but last few days been getting definite flutters, mainly on the left though so suspect placenta is on the right!

Sorry mammoth post once again, I need to keep up more! I'm on nightshift so plenty of time to post now!


MrsWajs Sat 23-Mar-13 02:16:20

Sooo gender prediction according to placenta placement suggests I'm having a boy. As does the chinese calendar thingy ma bob!!

RugBugs Sat 23-Mar-13 09:59:49

MrsWajs we are in the same boat! I started off feeling 'girl' but I think that was down to habit (considering boy stuff is alien to me as I've never looked at it before) but then as pg progressed I thought 'boy' but really I just don't know!
DP has been loving showing the scan to the many women at work (girls school), we both enjoy the guessing quite a bit!

Realised my diastolic bp was up by 25 when GP took it other day and not seeing mw for another 6 weeks! I haven't seen my hypertension consultant since booking in at 7wks so might try and get an appt at next clinic.

PixieBaby Sat 23-Mar-13 15:32:18

Hello everyone - I had my scan on Thursday and everything is okay, which was a huge relief as the anomaly aspect is a bit daunting! We are having a little girl... Hope that helps even up the stats a bit.


Woofers Sat 23-Mar-13 19:57:34

I am so cross with mu dmum. She calls me up rabbits on about her dog then starts taking the piss about name choices of baby etc. she's not actually interested in the fact I'm in agony with my hip and anti sickness tablets don't do jack.

And she's drunk. And anything I say is wrong or she takes the piss.

My dh has been less than sympathetic about my shitty week at work and is just being childish

I'm going to bed confusedconfusedconfusedconfused

PixieBaby Sun 24-Mar-13 09:33:43

Woofers that sounds really irritating! Nightmare. Poor you.

@ Becky, I sent you a friend request on FB this morning, hope it comes through - not sure what privacy settings I have on these days. It would be great to join the group, if that's okay with everyone.

beckie90 Sun 24-Mar-13 09:48:25

pixie yes I've got it Il add you now xx

PixieBaby Sun 24-Mar-13 09:55:49

Thanks very much Becky - talk about prompt service! Have a great day. :-)

beckie90 Sun 24-Mar-13 10:08:19

I'd just put my phone on and thought I'd check on here Haha great timing. You too smile x

Creamtea1 Sun 24-Mar-13 10:18:42

Thanks for all the replies ladies smile
I've got a mw appt tomorrow, snow permitting, so am going to ask if she can listen for the heartbeat - and also check bpm against the gender theories!

GaryBuseysTeeth Sun 24-Mar-13 14:51:16

Woofers, that sounds awful, hope you're having a better day today!

MrsWajs according to that chinese gender thing DS is a girl & this one is a boy..so we're still expecting it to be a girl (scan on Weds).

Creamtea, good luck (getting too &) at your apt tomorrow.

DH has manful the black death atm so just hoping he doesn't give it to me or DS.
Hope you're all having warm & cosy Sundays!


Woofers Sun 24-Mar-13 17:25:51

I am a lot more rationa

Woofers Sun 24-Mar-13 17:31:21

I have a premature posting problem.

I am also a little more rational today. smile

Dh ate 4 asda cookies from the bakery all to himself on Thursday. So today whilst going round the shop I managed to slip in
Ben and Jerry's peanut butter me up core ice cream
Pink wafer biscuits
And carrot cake
All on the counter argument 'you ate 4 cookies!'
Job well done I think. Obviously I have tried all of them, to check that they are in date and of good quality.

muddybloodypuddles Sun 24-Mar-13 19:50:16

woofers - can understand your cake measures entirely, he may have eaten 4 cookies but obviously to you the effect was as bad as him having eaten pink wafers, a carrot cake and the peanut butter ice team (which my sister thinks is pure heaven). Your diet sounds almost as good as mine - today was dh's birthday so we had some friends round, I made a choc fudge cake and trifle for pudding (I had to try both obviously) as well as helping dh eat some; toblerone, after eights and truffles <fat bloater emoticon>

all the sugar today has meant the baby has been going a bit mad, my bump feels bigger and stretched today (nothing to do with the diet I'm sure)


GaryBuseysTeeth Sun 24-Mar-13 19:52:29

Woofers, I actually lol-d at your premature posting problem!
Well done on such a great haul today...how is the Ben & Jerry's?
I want to try some but the last Core one I had was rubbish <first world problem>

A pre-warning for this Wednesday's OBEM, it's a very sad one.
I don't think we'll be watching it in Chez Gary.

FoofFighter Sun 24-Mar-13 20:04:27

Muddy, I feel very tight and stretched at the top of my bump today, it's pretty uncomfortable. It's not even baby as that's below, it must be organs being squished up into that bit I think?

Gary oh? Thanks for the warning, probably won't watch it then x IDid anyone else catch Home Dleivery on ITV the other night? There's also that BBC3 show Don't just stand there! I'm having your baby! - from the daddy point of view and really good I thought.

Woofers Sun 24-Mar-13 20:04:35

Peanut butter me up is awful. Disgusting. You defo don't want to try it.

<runs to corner shop to buy all of their stock>

FoofFighter Sun 24-Mar-13 20:05:26

the white choc and berry core really honestly was horrid, and I heart B&Js!

RuckAndRoll Sun 24-Mar-13 20:27:24

damn you all and your ice cream. I've just had the last cornetto and it's far too cold to consider going out for more so i'll have to make do with yogurt and fruit and other boring stuff.

Woofers Sun 24-Mar-13 20:30:08

In defence of my high sugar high cal diet today - I have been living on raw carrots whilst having morning sickness, so I'm just having a bit of a catch up whilst not being nauseous. And he ate 4 cookies!!

JollyYellowGiant Sun 24-Mar-13 20:34:10

I have no such excuse. I just like ice cream grin

We got Ben and Jerry's Apple Pie. DH loves it but I'm not so sure.

PGP still bothering me, but physio appointment is on the 11th and I've today discovered that if I lie on the sofa with my bum propped up on the arm rest it is much less painful.

Creamtea1 Sun 24-Mar-13 20:48:40

Note to self to seek out peanut butter b&j's tommorow...
Agreed the white choc berry core one is pants

MrsPennyapple Sun 24-Mar-13 21:01:54

Mmm, I love ice cream. I may have to look for some of that apple pie one tomorrow and then eat it all before DP gets home.

I made a ginger cake last week, it was a total failure. I had to use granulate dsugar as I thought I had a whole bag of demarera, but then it turned out I didn't. It sank in the middle because I knocked it when turning it round in the oven. Then it stuck to the tin and ended up coming out in pieces. And finally, it tastes a bit odd. Nothing I can put my finger on, it's just the first taste is a bit funny. (Solution - eat more of it. The weird taste goes after the first couple of bites.) I am going to have a go at parkin sometime this week, hopefully that will be more successful.

Nothing to report on the pg front, a bit of kicking, that's it really.

Woofers Sun 24-Mar-13 21:30:28

I'm not keen on the my my apple pie one. Too much cinnamon

Ps beccy. Did I send a friend req to the right person? Can I be on the fb page?

12 sleeps til 20w scan grin then the shopping can really begin!!!

muddybloodypuddles Sun 24-Mar-13 21:45:40

woofers - I have no such excuse but i did manage to have tomatoes, cucumber, orange and apple for tea followed by another piece of toblerone

Jolly - I'm trying to imagine you laying on the sofa with your bum on the arm? Sounds mighty uncomfortable to me - also that would give me the most enormous heartburn hmm - but I guess we do what we can!

Have to say I'm not much of an icecream fan so none of those flavours entice me

Went to antenatal pilates on Wed eve - my god, i've only just stopped aching! Muscle aches in my back and thighs - she really works you out - I was on the 'low level' bit too - no jumping around due to placenta previa and only slight lifting of legs due to pgp (I sound like a hypercondriac - prob not spelt right) - hopefully if I keep going though it will make me nice and fit ready for labour even though I'll probably end up having a c-section anyway due to the PP - apparently she's pretty hardcore for the postnatal pilates too - and she has 3 kids under 4!! i think I am in awe....

Abilee90 Sun 24-Mar-13 22:50:03

Not a happy preg lady today sad headache is horrendous! Made rocky road cheese cake and havent tried it yet as headache makes me very dizzy! Eaten a total of pretty much sod all apart from the roast i cooked. This double my calorie intake (plan consultant put me on) is in impossible. I can just stomache one meal a day let alone 3 sad sorry shouldnt moan about being aloud to eat more but just feel ill.

Today has just been rubbish. Dd slept for 3 hours, still getting over what ever has attacked her immune system. A tad worried sad
Dh has gone out for second night in a row :/ even tho i aint top notch :/ his excuse is i got cut short last night (i rang him, due to the fact dd was ill and my knee had swollen straight. Couldnt even bend it a little) so he in dog house.

Sorry to moan just needed it off my chest :/


Stopsittingonyoursister Sun 24-Mar-13 22:53:57

muddy that sounds like hard work! I'm trying to motivate myself to get back into swimming, but so far even the thought of coming out of the pool with wet hair in this weather is enought to put me off!

Jolly whatever works for you!!

woofers yesterday I ate toast for breakfast, danish pastry at the coffee shop, hot cross buns and cheese for lunch, picked at the kids' pizza, cheese and bean toastie for dinner (DH was out with friends) and white chocolate, raspberry and amaretto cheesecake for afters. A tad carb heavy!! Have eaten LOTS of fruit today to try and balance it all out.

Went to a naming ceremony today - I was one of the Supporting Adults for the baby - with a party afterwards. Was so proud of the kids, they behaved really well and I didn't have to use any Stern Looks, always a bonus! The bump suddenly looks huge though (nothing to do with the 4500 calories consumed on the Saturday!), and everyone looked very sceptical when I kept telling them I was 21.5 weeks. Made me feel a bit self-conscious!

RuckAndRoll Mon 25-Mar-13 09:51:24

So, ladies who are on DC2 or more. My Grandad has decided he wants a big family meal for his 80th bday in June, I'll be 31 weeks by then. We'll need to fly (just over an hour) then 2 hours in the car with my parents. I've checked the airlines rules and they discourage flying after 28 wks but will accept you until 34wks. What are the chances of me actually wanting to fly at the point? Or is it likely to be all too much? I really want to go but I'm reluctant to get his hopes up if we can't make it.

We're already in the dog house with DH's family for missing a 90th bday party at the end of July, in one of the most southerly towns in the UK, when we live in Scotland. Apparently we should drive!

How is everyone today? Countdown to the scan begins - Thursday smile


Beckett3 Mon 25-Mar-13 10:33:19

Abilee90 Hope your headache is better today and that your DH is being more supportive.

Stopsittingonyoursister I'm sure your bump is lovely grin

RuckAndRoll Sorry can't really help as never been in that position, however I wouldn't take the fact that you've already had to turn down one invitation into consideration. Good luck for your scan on Thursday.

Is anyone else still in their normal clothes? I have a definite bump, but am still wearing my pre pregnancy clothes, don't think I've ever got to this stage and done that yet!

I have 2 more driving lessons this week, every week is a step closer to freedom! Fingers crossed that I will be able to continue to fit comfortably behind the wheel.

Did a little baby clothes shopping at the weekend and had a good look at some pushchairs, my 3 children had great fun testing them out and helping me choose.

Locketjuice Mon 25-Mar-13 10:49:09

Ruck, I never really felt any different being pregnant with ds1, had a couple of stays in hospital etc but that was out of any ones control and once that was over I just felt rounder not really 'different' so if you would usually be ok with the travelling I don't see why not, especially if you have no complications in the lead up, I have to drive 4 1/2 hours end of may to my brothers wedding, Hasn't crossed my mind about being pregnant so not being able to, maybe I'm just dopey haha smile

My scans on the 4th so countdown to that aswell! Exciting! When's yours again? x

Locketjuice Mon 25-Mar-13 10:54:13

Beckett- hope your driving goes well, I have just passed (7th march) so hope to be insured and ready to go on Friday, fingers crossed!

And yes still in my normal clothes, although have been wearing my maternity skinnys because I love them and couldn't wait to find an excuse to get them back on, hopefully shopping some point this week though as they are too big so going to hunt through h&m to find maternity 8's as I love how comfortable they are smile and will hopefully see me through the whole pregnancy.

Hope everyone is well, babies really active now and wakes me up along with ds1 throughout the night... Little darlings hmm


muddybloodypuddles Mon 25-Mar-13 10:56:26

Stopsitting - you are making me hungry! I went swimming the other day for the first time in ages, lovely feeling light in the water but forgot how heavy you feel when you get out again!

Abi - hope you start feeling better soon, can see why dh is in the dog house angry

Ruck - I would think I would have been okay in last pgcy to fly a short way at 31wks but not in this one as it is a bit more complicated with my PP. As someone else said don't feel pressured into it, you have to put yours and baby's health before what everyone thinks. How late can you leave it to book? Depending on the airline you may need a doc's cert to say you are safe to fly too. And I DEF don't blame you for not going to the one in July - the people that disapprove must not have their heads screwed on properly!!!

Beckett - def not normal jeans!! But can still wear a couple of dresses and tops that are pre-pregnancy

Anyone going away for Easter? We're off to mil's in Cornwall on Thurs for a week (could be our only 'holiday' this year lol) - would've been nice to get some sunshine and warmth but nevermind...it will be nice to spend some time with dh without him working all the time!!

RuckAndRoll Mon 25-Mar-13 11:03:55

Locket I was happy to go until I read that they discourage you from 28 weeks. I'm leaning more towards telling them I can't go and if everything is going well we can book last minute flights as a nice surprise, rather than book and plan to go and end up upsetting them if we can't go. So far, I'm fine but things will probably change when my medication changes next week.

Beckett I'm still in pre-pregnancy tops but the trousers are long gone. They seemed to dig in at just the wrong point when I'm sat at my desk. Although being 6ft tall I am enjoying the extra length in maternity tops!

Stopsitting Well done to your DC, you have them well trained obviously grin and I'm sure your bump is fine. One of my friends keeps joking that mine is too small, have to keep reminding her she has twins!

RuckAndRoll Mon 25-Mar-13 11:08:48

x-post their Muddy. Thanks. We can book quite late as long as there are seats on the flight really. I'm sure the restaurant will be able to add 2 people if they're told the day before. I'm going to speak to DH and DM later and work out a solution. Now to try and decipher the airline policy for if I need a drs note for flying at 26 weeks.

MrsWajs Mon 25-Mar-13 12:57:05

It'll depend on the airline Ruck I'm flying with Ryanair in May to my parents place in France and they only require a letter from your GP or MW if you're in your 28th week, which I won't be, however I'm that big that they may not believe me so I might get one just incase!!

I have my gramdmas 80th in November which is also down south, baby will only be a couple of months old and my aunt has helpfully suggested that rather than taking all the kids to the restaurant with us, the neighbour could babysit!!! Ehhh... no thanks! I wouldn't leave any of the kids with people I hardly know regardless of their age. DSS is 5 and DD will be 2, my brother will be there too with his DD who will only be 1 - I hardly think the 60+ yo neighbour would cope anyway!!
The 6 hour drive should be fine though, we did it last month with DD and DSS and it was ok. When we last did it with DD she was only 10 weeks and slept the whole way except for feed stops so I'm hoping it'll be ok!

Muddy France will be our only hols for this year I think. We were due to go on a big family holiday also in November to Lanzarote but DP isn't keen as we are trying to save for a deposit for a house and will be living with my parents til we can afford it so I don't think splashing over a grand on a holiday features highly on his priority list!

Beckett v. jelous of you still wearing normal clothes, I've been in mat stuff for a while and am a good few weeks less pg than most of you too sad

MrsWajs Mon 25-Mar-13 12:57:49

Oh yeah 17+1

bluer Mon 25-Mar-13 13:16:35

Hi ladies...hope I'm not too late to join the party! My due date is 22nd Ausgust. ruck and roll suggested I pop by on another thread as I'm having a hard old time of it...anaemia, low bp, virus and cold, and one heck of a time at work sad
I'm usually much more chipper honestly!

RugBugs Mon 25-Mar-13 13:20:40

Haha MrsWajs I'm flying with ryanair at 22wks and am a little worried they won't believe i'm not more than 28wks.

I must be crazy, we're going to Brussels for DPs birthday in two weeks, last time I was there I got so horrifically drunk I lost my debit card in one of the confusing European banking halls blush then got stuck in there (as no card to let myself out).
I'm going to get DP to order the beers I want and then just take a sip of each [sob] and console myself with lots and lots of yummy fresh cream pralines.

Baby wouldn't let me go to sleep last night! It's usually pretty quiet late evening but I felt proper actual movements under my hands and a few good jabs. I have been feeling really subtle movement under the layer of fat for a while but last night was awesome grin, it's quite odd to feel small movements on the outside when inside it feels like the baby is trying to dig it's way out.

BabyHMummy Mon 25-Mar-13 13:22:16

Only just seen this courtesy of the post bluer put up elsewhere. I am due 18th August...bloody terrified as feel completely detached from pregnancy etc. Anyone else feel like this?!

RuckAndRoll Mon 25-Mar-13 13:24:09

Hiya bluer, never to late to join the party did you bring snacks?

If need be, ask work to show you the risk assessment they're legally bound to do once they know you're pregnancy. That normally shuts them up as they don't always do it!

bluer Mon 25-Mar-13 13:35:05

grin I did that a while ago! Interesting to note that they're always trying to put extra classes on us etc due to other absences when the risk assessment says my workload should be discussed and reviewed often! it's all lip service!
Hi baby h <waves>

Boosiehs Mon 25-Mar-13 13:56:53

Any suggestions as to what I'm supposed to be feeling? The bubbster has a nice strong heartbeat and according to the midwives is very wriggly, but I can't tell when its moving.

Hi all, checking in from hospital again having my daily IV fluids. I'm still in "normal" clothes, apart from ones which won't do up round my bump, but that's only 2 pairs of jeans, and been in new bras a while now as my boobs grew a lot right away!

Attempting a return to work on Wednesday, all subject to them letting me have the time to come up for daily fluids.

Stbxh should be gone by this evening, hopefully after he's gone I can start to focus on the future and things will be a bit more positive. Fingers crossed ...

muddybloodypuddles Mon 25-Mar-13 15:39:55

Welcome to bluer and babyh! Bluer you sound like you're having a bit of a rough time - are you on the horrible iron tablets? I've had a taste in my mouth almost permanently since about 5wks that reminds me of the taste when taking iron tabs in my last pgcy - yuk

Waves - good luck for later fingers crossed he goes without too much of a fuss. Going back to work sounds like a positive step, is the medication working or you starting to feel a bit better? Not surprised you're still in normal clothes!

Boosiehs - it can feel like fluttering butterflies or wriggly fish or sometimes I can tell baby is just rolling around because it feels a bit like a washing machine inside (hard to describe) and makes me feel like I've got a case of butterflies. Otherwise I just feel little kicks and thumps - I didn't feel anything until 21wks with DS, it also depends where your placenta is.

I do have another holiday booked but its for 24th Aug!! In France - along with my mum and sisters we booked a large house in France (before I got pg), they've just booked their flights but in really not sure what to do - would prob do ferry instead but baby is due 5th Aug so would be 3wks if it came on time and am not only worried that's too young but also what if I go overdue or have any complications or if I'm still bleeding a lot... Am tempted to book anyway and maybe dh and ds could go without me if I didn't want to...im sure id be okay with a 3wk old on my own, unless I had a c-section..

Anyone ever been abroad with a very young baby??

Christelle2207 Mon 25-Mar-13 15:42:58

good news waves and if you are thinking about going back to work I assume you are feeling at least a bit better?

No way am i in normal clothes, have been in mat trousers since about 15 weeks (now 21) though some "normal" dresses and tops are still ok for now.

FoofFighter Mon 25-Mar-13 16:12:26

waves thinking of you just now, did stbxh pick right now to go knowing you'd be possibly upset anyway with the anniversary? sad thanks for you xxx

Hello BabyH and bluer - come on in smile

Re flying - I am booking to go and see my DD and GD in two weeks and already worrying they might think am further, will be 22/23 weeks by then...


I pulled out my maternity clothes last week and all my trousers are too big! I was about a stone lighter at my booking I appointment this time round, and combined with the new job (postie) which obviously involves lots of walking, I appear to have dropped at least one dress size although my belly is enormous.

Being on the larger size last time round I didn't buy that much, my wardrobe was full of empire line dresses and tunic tops that stretched nicely. But whith the weight loss and hopefully it being hotter towards our due dates (ds is a December baby) it looks like I'll be asking my mum for an advance on my birthday money to buy maternity leggings and some linen trousers or similar.

If anyone wants some size 18 marernity jeans from next to try pm me grin

Oh, re flying, just make sure you've got your green notes to hand! Most airlines just want to be as sure as possible they won't have to divert a flight due to a mama going into labour...tis very expensive........

FoofFighter Mon 25-Mar-13 16:36:26

gah where were you two/three weeks ago when I needed some Kat haha!

bluer Mon 25-Mar-13 17:06:18

Iron tablet are yuk! Just another nuisance...had the horrible sour taste for ages.

BabyHMummy Mon 25-Mar-13 17:13:36

Boosiehs for me baby moving just feel like my stomach flipping when you drive over a big bump in the road. Mind as mine has been using my ovaries as punch bags for the last few weeks i can tell where it is based on the pains. It only stops when the dog curls up on my bump.

I have been in maternity clothes since about 10 week. I had really bad HG and couldn't bare anything tight on my mummy

Woofers Mon 25-Mar-13 17:25:40

thekat bagsy your jeans please gringrin

Sorry to hear that a few of y'all are have crappy times of it. But I am delighted to hear waves fancies going back to work and exdh is out out out out.

As for holidays, we have a week in June in Oxfordshire. Family gathering. Fortunately we will have the dowgues with us, so they will get used as polite excuses to retire early.

I'm on a count down to mat leave because work is so awful.

LexiLoganberryBump Mon 25-Mar-13 17:30:50

I'm still in my pre pregnancy clothes, have been having a look through to see what I've got in my wardrobe that'll see me through, don't want to spend to much on maternity clothes, was thinking of getting a bump band so I can bridge hide any gap, not sure if that'll actually work but might be worth a try.

bluer Mon 25-Mar-13 17:42:23

I've been in mat bottoms for the last few Weeks but can still get into some pre pregnancy tops and dresses. Been really fortunate to get full wardrobes from my two best friends so i've been able to just supplement with a few things as I go. how much weight have people put on? I've put about 8 pounds but it's all bump so far

muddybloodypuddles Mon 25-Mar-13 17:44:50

Babyh has described it better - that flipping stomach feeling is what I get when I figure baby is rolling around

Ditsy79 Mon 25-Mar-13 17:59:47

I've been in mat trousers since about 16 weeks. Got some jeans in M&P sale for a fiver, but they are far too big and keep falling down, so I've just ordered some others from Next to see if they're any better. I've been wearing my 'normal' tops, but they are starting to annoy me because they are getting too short - so have also ordered tops from Next.
Had my 20-WK scan last Thurs - all looking good. We are in team yellow - it's our first baby and we want a surprise.
We've got a hol booked for start of May - 2 hr flight, so hopefully won't be too bad.
Can't believe how quickly time's going - more than halfway there!

BabyHMummy Mon 25-Mar-13 18:16:44

Ladies check out whether you have a mothercare clearance shop near you. There is one in sheffield and they have been doing mat clothes for £2.50 an item. I have bought loads and spent about £20.

As for holidays...we are going to my nan's for a few days over the Easter school Hols and then we have been loaned a friends holiday home in skeggy for whitsun week in May. We were gonna take the kids to London for a few days but i kinda figured that at 7 months pregnant i may not be in a fit state to walk around the museums etc!!

We have 2 wedding just after bean arrives which i am so excited for!! Any one who got any suggestions of places to buy suits or dresses for a 6-8 week old baby?!

Locketjuice Mon 25-Mar-13 18:43:38

BabyH monsoon do gorgeous little suits/dresses as do next smile have a wedding in may so my little man will be suited and booted smile could have timed it a little better and would have had a teeny one to dress too as it is I will have a big bump and wide arse to deal with instead winkgrin

bluer Mon 25-Mar-13 19:07:51

Ooh...my sister gets married four Weeks after my due date and I'm very excited about finding cute little outfits! One reason why we're going to find out the sex!

BabyHMummy Mon 25-Mar-13 19:09:53

Haha lockett!! i am.sure you will look gorgeous!!!

I was meant to be bm at one of the wedding as its my baby sister's but fairly sure they don't make breastfeeding friendly stress bras!! Plus lactating bm want gonna look pretty in the pics! Instead i am providing a very young flowergirl/pageboy. Its part of why i wanna find out the flavour next week cos don't fancy the shopping for me within a few weeks of giving birth let alone trying to buy a baby outfit too!

BabyHMummy Mon 25-Mar-13 19:10:35

Great minds bluer!!!

bluer Mon 25-Mar-13 19:14:39

Ah it's my wee sister too...and the bridesmaid dress has been insisted upon grin but no duties etc. the shop ordered a humungous size and will cut it down to fit, hopefully! If not I can always use it for camping!

muddybloodypuddles Mon 25-Mar-13 19:39:59

babyh - i went to a wedding when DS was 5wks old - got a really cute suit type thing from M&P's - they've got a sale on at the moment! (although i'm sure they'll prob have another one before August!)

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Mon 25-Mar-13 20:26:00


Beckett I can still get into my jeggings, but not my normal skinny jeans or work trousers. Still in my old faithful Topshop skater dresses, with a bit of added tummy now. All my (baggy) t shirts are now a bit strained. Go some bits in New Look and H&M maternity as I could try those in store, bu going to order a few more bits soon.

We had our 20 week scan today, everything is looking good and developing nicely. Was so lovely to see our wriggly little baby, I could see them moving but not feel it at all, so was a little surreal. We didn't find out the sex, but did try to have a little peek I must admit, but nothing spotted. None of the pictures show that area very well either. Got some amazing images with babies hand up, and legs crossed. Made me all giddy to see him/her again.

Oh, turned out MIL could not have came to the scan anyway because she was on a trip away! I'm sure she knew that all along... hmm.

BabyHMummy Mon 25-Mar-13 20:29:51

bluer haha too alike!!! I just didn't want the stress of trying to get into the dress so fast!

Abilee90 Mon 25-Mar-13 20:35:17

Welcome new duebies smile

Nothing much to report here, another headache :/ never got them with dd pg so all fun. Dh is gonna be kicked in his special place if he dont sort himself out. Off to see adopted mum tomorrow, to have a chat and bit of break as dd is being very full on as teething. She has 14 teeth only 6 more to go, to fullset.

Still in pre-pregnancy clothes. Woke up with a bump that had soon disappeared after cheese cake for breakfast lol. (Only thing i fancied)

Feeling bit down today, anyone get this?

21 weeks, 19 left to go! Yay!
Hurry up little man

beckie90 Mon 25-Mar-13 20:48:01

woofers added you, I posted on here the other day when I got the request to see if you had sent one, cause I wasn't sure if it was you, and didn't want to add a random person to the group Haha, you must have missed it. but just added you on now smile xx

Chuckaluck Mon 25-Mar-13 21:42:33

Hi all,

We are off to Cornwall for a holiday and might squeeze in a weekend somewhere but doubt it will be abroad!

Have been in maternity trousers for a few weeks and now finding it hard to wear anything apart from over bump jeans, they are so comfy!! Tops and dresses are still ok but maternity tops are a bit more forgiving!

Just got my second 20 week scan appt as baby would not behave last time. Any day next week would be fine apart from Friday as we have a wedding so of course, it has come for Friday. GGGRRR! Hate ringing up and changing it as receptionists clearly think you are just being annoying!

Oh god, dog has just been sick everywhere - oh well, good practice really!

22+0 smile

DaveMccave Mon 25-Mar-13 22:26:13

Glad to hear others have the same guilty eating pattern as me. Lots of junk, followed by a day of excessive portions of fruit and veg, and then I feel virtuous so back to junk. If I add olives and spinach and capers to pizza it totes cancels out the fact I'm eating takeaway, right? I've just added a portions of fruit and beg a day app to my phone which encourages me to remember.

I'm feeling a bit glum today. Dp is away on tour till next week. I've been stuck in the house with a dd on school holiday who doesn't want to go anywhere. So we've had a boring lazy day, house is a tip. Dp has a day off so he's getting pissed, eating 'special' muffins and enjoying the scenery in Amsterdam. I'm trying not to be jealous but I'm so bored, and even dragging dd out tomorrow wont be fun with it being so cold sad At least I'm not in work I guess!

Stopsittingonyoursister Mon 25-Mar-13 23:43:30

Dave it really is too cold to go anywhere, isn't it?! We have amazingly escaped anything more than a light dusting of snow here, but have seen weather reports on the local news of drifts literally feet high not 20 miles from where we live. But the wind...my God, it is sooo cold!

I was in maternity clothes from about 16 weeks with this one. I can still get into my old longline tops that I used to wear over leggings, but tbh they just look a bit odd now because they aren't cut for a huge bump. I had a lot of mat stuff from DS and DD, so figured I may as well use it up now this is my last one! And it is so comfy - I had a pair of tights on for the do yesterday, and the waistband was killing me after about an hour and the baby was really kicking against it as well, so I guess he didn't like it either. Am just hoping against hope that I can get out and at least do some walking or swimming on an evening once the clocks go forward this weekend - but only if it warms up a bit! - otherwise I shall in mat clothes and the baby will be 6 months old....

IJustWore annoying is not the word for some MILs....

Abbie hope your DP has sorted himself out. I would second the suggestion of getting your BP checked out for the headaches. Have you had your eyes tested recently as well?

Hi to the newbies!

Holidays - we have a week booked in St Ives, Cornwall for the May half term, and I have to endure a trip to the MILs for Easter. She doesn't believe in central heating, lives in literally the middle of nowhere up a stone track on the side of a fell, and sticks rigidly to her own routine regardless of the rest of us (ie dinner is at 7.30, despite the fact that the DCs go to bed at 7 - 7.30). It's going to be fun time....!

JollyYellowGiant Tue 26-Mar-13 06:20:31

Too many posts to catch up on. Glad to hear from you waves.

We are driving 500 miles to go on holiday, about 8 hours solid driving, when I'm 32 weeks. And we'll have to drive back too! Last time this would have been no problem at all. This time with the PGP I'm quite concerned!

Hello everyone, in terms of feeling a bit better, I'm thinking that I am a little, but mostly really worried about the ever increasing backlog, and wanting to show willing... Having daily IV anti emetics and the IV fluids is definitely helping tons though!

You are all very brave to be planning holidays etc - I'm staying put til after the baby arrives, but planning to spend a week up in the Lake District towards the end of August. DM is taking the DCs up there for a fortnight, and I am planning to fly up just for 5 or 6 days with the baby, but won't book that til he is here, as I need a name for the flights, and if he arrives late, then it won't really be practical.

22 weeks today

Abilee90 Tue 26-Mar-13 09:58:38

Taking dd back to doctors today, she not eating and when she is, shes screaming between every mouthful. It just aint right. My dd has always been a fantastic eater, i refuse to believe that can change in 5 days. And i know shes not right when she is screaming while trying to eat milky bar. Just dont know whats wrong with her at all. She just isnt her normal self.

Sorry to rant on, just need some answers and doctors not just to give her antibiotics and not explain why. (Going to bang head against brick wall)


RuckAndRoll Tue 26-Mar-13 10:10:10

Abi Mothers intuition, if you know something isn't right with your child, keep telling them that. Hope they have answers for you.

waves Glad you've found a bit of a balance with the meds/IVs. Take it easy and don't throw yourself straight back into full days if possible.

We were hoping to get two weekends away before August, just within 2 hours of home so not going far. Now we have DN christening and Grandads birthday both of which require flying down south for weekends and the associated costs so I think the money just isn't there to do it. Keeping an eye on the various sites to try and find cheap B&B deals.

It's quite sad how excited I am about it being Easter weekend. We've already pencilled in the babies Christening for Easter Sunday next year so makes it all feel really special. Logistically and liturgically it's the best weekend for us.

FoofFighter Tue 26-Mar-13 13:54:34

officially halfway point today, 20 weeks today woop!

TrixieLulamoon Tue 26-Mar-13 14:09:39

Afternoon Ladies,

Welcome newbies!

So very very jealous of all of you planning holidays. Wish I could go away before my little boy gets here.

Abbie I'm with Ruck. If you think there is something wrong I would just keep on at them.

Waves fingers crossed you keep on feeling better and can get back to normality soon!

I too am in pre pregnancy clothes, although they are rather uncomfortable when I am sat at my desk, and do quite often get kicks as I don't think baby is happy either! I ordered maternity clothes online from New Look as nowhere in my town sells maternity wear!! So just waiting on the parcel.


TrixieLulamoon Tue 26-Mar-13 14:20:04

Abi appears I can't read. Apologies for the miss spell!

I'm blaming pregnancy brain. Sometimes I can't remember words. It gets quite embarrassing at work when I'm trying to explain something!!

MrsPennyapple Tue 26-Mar-13 16:29:30

Hi everyone. Lots of wriggling going on here, and a bit of pelvic achy-ness of an evening.

Abi Hope you get on ok with DD at the doctor's. Be persistent, don't let them fob you off.

Waves Glad you are feeling better, but don't stress yourself out worrying about the backlog. You can only do what you can do, your employer will just have to get you some help.

Anyone heard from RememberingMyPFEs? She hasn't posted in a while, am hoping everything is ok.

MrsPennyapple Tue 26-Mar-13 16:35:34

Ah yes, Labyrinthitis, I just checked back. Hope you're feeling better, Remembering!

BabyHMummy Tue 26-Mar-13 18:25:32

Ladies help...went swimming this morning and ever since my stomach has been killing me. Its really tight and uncomfortable specifically around where bean is sitting. I am struggling to not of walk around and its making me feel quite sick. Any ideas??

FoofFighter Tue 26-Mar-13 18:39:24

I had a day like this, in my case I think the baby had gotten down very low and kind of stuck in an awkward position, I did a few jumping jacks and it did help but was still sore for the rest of the day.

if you are worried, call the MW/mat ward for advice?

BabyHMummy Tue 26-Mar-13 18:48:50

Thanks foof. It started in the pool and had to get out cos i was in agony :-(

Will see how it is tomorrow and ring Dr if no better xx

FoofFighter Tue 26-Mar-13 19:26:31

Could be you've jiggled your pelvis while swimming? I'm finding breast stroke really really aches afterwards.

BabyHMummy Tue 26-Mar-13 19:48:52

Was doing breast stroke at time. Was aching from stretching my stomach as i was swimming but then pain got a lot worse. Just feels weird. Thanks for help xx

RuckAndRoll Tue 26-Mar-13 20:43:16

My stomach felt very 'stretchy' when I was swimming and the day after. The midwife reckoned it was just the muscles being in different places and being used differently. But Breast stroke is supposedly the worst one.

Keep an eye on it, if it feels like cramping and/or there's blood, call the midwife.

BabyHMummy Tue 26-Mar-13 22:01:27

Thanks ladies. Think foof hit it on head. Baby did an almighty flip and pain vanished. Little sod was obviously getting payback for being squashed into my tummy tuck costume

RuckAndRoll Wed 27-Mar-13 10:48:38

Crossing my legs in pain today after seeing a story on BBC news of a 15lb baby. ouch! Very cute baby, just not so little.

DH spent ages last night curled up on the sofa with his hand on my bump putting pressure on it to try and make the baby kick his hand away. It was definately kicking in his direction but he couldn't feel it. He's getting really frustrated he can't feel it yet. Hopefully tomorrows scan will help him a little.


FoofFighter Wed 27-Mar-13 10:57:05

haha babyH, was probably the movement of the swimming stroke made it get squished a bit, weird feeling isn't it?

Just found out I won a FB competition to name some newborn lambs and won a farm pass wooo! it's about 80 miles round trip though?!

happy hump day everyone smile

JollyYellowGiant Wed 27-Mar-13 12:56:26

You also need to be careful at the moment Foof as you shouldn't be around birthing sheep if you're pregnant, but well done smile

FoofFighter Wed 27-Mar-13 15:02:09

Yep, not going to go myself, no point if I can't snuggle wee lambs!

Hello everyone - sorry for the radio silence!
All is well with Beanetta and I'm on the mend from my Labrynthitis so can now read threads and watch telly again - thank God! I would wish it on no-one other than waves STBEXH

It's taken me an age to catch up on the thread - sorry I can't remember names of newbies but welcome thanks
waves hope things are on the up now but don't push yourself hon

I'm HUGE and most definitely in maternity stuff now. She is also kicking 7 shades of crap out of me so I'm guessing she'll be a feisty one when she gets out!

Anyone else thinking about Hynobirthing? I've been reading the book and have found a practitioner but it's £250 for 5 classes which is a lot of cash....

Apologies, forgot to add 22+1 (where is the time going confused )

FoofFighter Wed 27-Mar-13 17:23:06

Oh it's going so slowly yet quite fast isn't it? or is that just me??

Can someone help me with working out when I am going on maternity leave please? I keep reading the thing about working it out but my baby brain has kicked in and I'm getting all confused with the sunday thing and working it back or something confused blush you have to legally notify your employer of your intentions by 25th week of pregnancy.

EDD is 13/08/13 and I'd like to go on leave at 36 weeks?

foof fully agree - it's flying by yet taking forever wink
36 weeks will be 16th July for you thanks

JollyYellowGiant Wed 27-Mar-13 17:58:38

Google "pregnology". That website will tell you all your dates if you put in your due date smile

I feel the same. Sometimes I'm like "aargh, august is so soon" and other days I feel like august is forever away!

JollyYellowGiant Wed 27-Mar-13 17:58:54

17+6 here.

FoofFighter Wed 27-Mar-13 20:38:20

ahh many thanks

FoofFighter Wed 27-Mar-13 20:38:34

err 20+1! why do I always forget

Stopsittingonyoursister Thu 28-Mar-13 00:06:30

I agree, I worked out today at work that after the Easter hols, I have 11 weeks left at work before I finish. That all sounds scarily close!!

foof my work say you have to start your mat leave on a sunday and end it on a saturday (ie you can't start mat leave mid week), so you need the date of the Sunday before your EDD, and then count back 4 weeks - I think! Congrats on the FB win. MIL's house is also surrounded by sheep so will be housebound this weekend as well....can you tell I'm really looking forward to the visit hmm

remembering glad you are feeling better.

waves how did it go with work? Don't feel under pressure to rush back.

abi how did you get on with your GP and your DD?

babyH hope you are feeling better. I remember breaststroke was bad for my back when I was pg before - something about the odd position of your stomach muscles and the extra strain/weight on your muscles generally?? Can't see how front crawl would be much good either though!

MrsWajs Thu 28-Mar-13 02:05:02

I won't be finishing on mat leave until 5th August - some of you will have had your babies by then!! I just counted it and it's 19 weeks away sad hmmmph.


JollyYellowGiant Thu 28-Mar-13 07:10:22

MrsW, I have a meeting on Aug 21st. And my section on Aug 22nd!

I will be working very part time though and will only go to that meeting if I'm required.

I'm starting Mat leave on June 18 (34 weeks) but my commute is >5 hours round trip... Can't wait!! 11 weeks!
Still going to Glastonbury at the end of June grin

Dexidoo Thu 28-Mar-13 07:34:33

I'm not starting mat leave until 39 weeks, but taking 2 weeks AL before so hoping for not too early an arrival!

Scan day today, excited and a little bit scared


RuckAndRoll Thu 28-Mar-13 07:41:59

I think I'm going off on July 12th at 36 weeks using up 3 weeks annual leave before starting official mat leave. Biggest brain ache for me is trying to decide how long to tell them I'm taking off. I'm pretty sure I have to go back when SMP ends at 39 wks but if DH gets the new job he's gone for, we can afford for me to take the whole year, which I'd prefer if possible.

Scan today then we're hitting ikea - not sure if that's a good idea on a bank holiday weekend!


bluer Thu 28-Mar-13 08:31:12

I'm off from June! Got eleven teaching Weeks after Easter and then six Weeks of school holidays. My official maternity stay date will be the 18th August and my due date its 22nd. Pleased that my Easter holiday started today as I'm exhausted.

Abilee90 Thu 28-Mar-13 08:56:31

Dd is ok now, just another nasty virus. Docs are sending her for a few tests to see if she has a weak immune system. I was right that she was well. Just wish they would listen to parents more often. Also the doc she see fri gave her antibiotics for no reason. Feel like i'm going round in circles most of the time with these bloody docs.

Back ache today and i have so much to do. Dh is driving me nuts already! Its like oh i'm going pub after work. Is it ok. Well not really as it will be dinner time and someone needs to watch dd so i can cook :/. I dont see why he cant go pub later in the evening when dinner and bedtime is out the way. Really had enough of his s**t. I dont see why our dinner should be put back just so he can run off to pub. I wouldnt mind but he went out sat and sun to see the same said mate as tonight. Its been 4 days really. I wouldnt mind but i havent been out since without dd to see a friend since october 30th. Because hes like i'm going out sat night. Every week for the past 6 weeks at least. Am i being unreasonable?

Sorry for rant really had enough now.

21+ 2

We have to start ML no later than 2 weeks before EDD so I my last day will be 12 July. Back to work on 6 January, we get less leave over here than in the UK, so will be taking my basic 18 weeks statutory pay, and then using all my holiday pretty much for this year to tag onto the end of it.

Work was a bit pants yesterday - I have so much to do sad. Not helped that the way the systems are set up means that my boss can't access the system for the company I am in, so all the bits he has been covering in my absence are on his system which I can't access. Off to hospital now, then will see how I get on this afternoon in the office. Amazingly hard work to be honest, but my consultant will sign me off if it gets too much. Oh, and no-one thought I looked pregnant, just that i had a "bit of a tummy". And there was me feeling so proud of my bump!

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 28-Mar-13 09:26:33

I'm a SAHM...sorting ML sounds like a massive headache (don't think I could've returned to work after having DS).
DH gets 5 days of Paternity leave, so he'll be using most of his leave to have all of August off.

waves, you do look pregnant! If the snow has cleared there maybe go in wearing a bikini so everyone can see it grin
Sorry about your dick boss.

Abi, Yanbu. I think you should sort something out (you out one sat, he out the other then 2 together as a couple a month) because if he assumes it'll be the same when the new one arrives you'll end up having bigger rows.
Hope your DD is better soon, and the test results arrive quickly x

foof, congrats on the lamb! I love going to the local 'city' farms in Spring. Grrrh.

We're team blue, I was expecting it to be a girl but we're both grin about having 2 boys (there are 3 years between DH & BIL & they're close), looking forward to seeing how much damage they'll cause to the flat & each other hmm


beckie90 Thu 28-Mar-13 11:47:50

Congrats gary 2 boys together are amazing honestly smile so much fun xxx

TrixieLulamoon Thu 28-Mar-13 13:03:03

Abi Glad your DD is feeling better. It is hard work seeing them so ill and noone listening to you! As for DH, give him a kick up the backside and tell him to stay home and cook for you and DD, THEN he can go out!

Foof How is the pram? Was it the Cameleon you got? I think we are ordering ours this weekend. We are going to break the bank and go for the cameleon 3 in the Sahara. They seem to have a high resale value if you look after them and the limited editions should be popular? Fingers crossed!

BabyH It is hella scary when you get pains isn't it? Every time i get a niggle i think something is wrong, then 30 mins later it has stopped! I overdid it power walking up the hill on my way home from work, I suffered for an hour or so after, tummy was very painful.

I will be going on maternity leave 21st July. Just in time for the school summer holidays. DH is happy as he is SAHD and is delighted he won't be alone with 2 DD's through the hols. I think I have been optimistic with the date, I will be 38 Weeks and with DD2 I was HUGE. I don't think I could have managed a full time job at that stage.

Congrats Gary! Lots of boys on here grin


Boosiehs Thu 28-Mar-13 14:49:30

Crikey - you are all so prepared! I'm 19 weeks today. So tired its untrue and have a stinky cold. I am so happy I'm off for a week now!

20 week scan in 12 days and am dying to find out whether its a boy or a girl.

waves - I have no idea how you cope - you must be superwoman!

FoofFighter Thu 28-Mar-13 16:28:36

Trixie, no mine's the new Mothercareone Xpedior smile

RuckAndRoll Thu 28-Mar-13 17:12:45

scan went well smile. we remain team multi-coloured. I gave dh the final decision and he said no. baby was healthy, uncooperative and extremely camera shy!

BabyHMummy Thu 28-Mar-13 17:19:40

Thanks ladies...still in a bit of discomfort but judging on where my stomach is rigid i think it just the way bean is sat. I get impression baby is at front and placenta etc at back cos they found heartbeat straight away and the rigo bit move about a lot!

I am signed off sick currently with anxietybbu think i may have AND so seeing mw in a couple od week of no better and hoping they will sign me off til July at which point i will go on AL for 4 weeks and then start mat leave on 5th Aug and am due on 18th although had the worst dream that i went into labour at 28 weeks last night

BabyHMummy Thu 28-Mar-13 17:29:20

Thanks ladies...still in a bit of discomfort but judging on where my stomach is rigid i think it just the way bean is sat. I get impression baby is at front and placenta etc at back cos they found heartbeat straight away and the rigo bit move about a lot!

I am signed off sick currently with anxietybbu think i may have AND so seeing mw in a couple od week of no better and hoping they will sign me off til July at which point i will go on AL for 4 weeks and then start mat leave on 5th Aug and am due on 18th although had the worst dream that i went into labour at 28 weeks last night

BabyHMummy Thu 28-Mar-13 17:29:59

Apologies stupid laptop crashed then posted it twice

FoofFighter Thu 28-Mar-13 17:38:15

BabyH just watch the being signed off sick as I believe your emplloyer can force you to start your mat leave early if you are signed off for a certain time/by a certain point x

Ruck, well done for staying firm! We don't have a choice as the hospital do not tell. How many people are still left to have their anomaly scan? Mine's on the 3rd.

BabyHMummy Thu 28-Mar-13 17:51:40

Yeah 36 weeks i think but thanks foof Xxx

JollyYellowGiant Thu 28-Mar-13 18:05:55

Mine is not until the 15th!

im 18 weeks today smile

Chuckaluck Thu 28-Mar-13 18:43:33

I work in HR and Payroll so anyone need any mat leave advice, just shout!! By the way, mat leave can start any day. It used to have to be a Subday but it changed a few years ago.

My last day will be 5 July, taking 2 weeks holiday and starting maternity leave on 19 July. Will probably take 39 weeks so back to work in April 2014. Hard to believe that this time next year I will be gearing up to go back to work!!!

Chuckaluck Thu 28-Mar-13 18:48:41

And BabyH if you are signed off 4 weeks before EDD then work can make you start mat leave so your planned dates should be ok. Sorry you are suffering with anxiety thanks

Got to get blood pressure checked tomorrow, not looking forward to that!

Forgot to say 22+3 smile

FoofFighter Thu 28-Mar-13 19:11:09

interesting Chuck, all the guides I've looked at still stating the Sunday thing.

I just won some cloth nappies on ebay, so excited!! (LL bamboo size 1s for any clothies here) first time using re-useables but have childminded a baby with them, so only know about them from the changing position, not the having to wash and dry them position!! Anyone else going to use cloth nappies?

BabyHMummy Thu 28-Mar-13 19:30:18

Thanks Chuck. That is what i had understood but its nice to Have it confirmed!

Anxiety is a b*tch!!! And not aided by work as they are not very understanding or supportive. Its making ot worse as i am struggling to feel like a mum to be. Sorry to anyone ttc etc but i just feel ao detached. It like its happening to someone else and i am just along for the ride. I am terrified with my history that it will develop into pnd when the baby comes along. i have spent the 11 week i have know i was pg worrying about how everyone else feels/will react...dp, his ds &dd, my parents, his parents, my bf who is desperately ttc and failing (we weren't thing and was told 17 yrs ago i don't produce viable eggs), work, my ex husband. When i try and focus on me i cry cos i just feel numb. I put it down to shock at first but now i am scared it more iykwim.

As for nappies...i have zero experience with reusable...how easy are they to use?

Chuckaluck Thu 28-Mar-13 20:22:54

They do tend to use Sunday still as your MATB1 will state the Sunday of the week baby is due. I think this guide explains it quite well and also confirms mat leave/pay can start on any day. They do
Like to confuse us though (like any govt benefit in my opinion!) confused


Woofers Thu 28-Mar-13 20:26:51

That prenogolgy website is great!!! I'm going on ml at 36w which is 2nd aug for me. 17 w to go!! Minus holiday - 1 week in April and a fortnight may/June
And prob some more too.

Had 2nd apt with osteopath today. Took me 15 mins to decide which knickers to wear!!

MrsWajs Fri 29-Mar-13 02:30:54

What's your EDD then Woofers? You sound like you could be one of the last with me smile My scan isn't until 18th April!

Ruck I'm pretty sure you don't need to tell your employer straight away when you plan to return as long as you give them 28 days notice once you have decided? I'm sure Chuck will be able to set me straight if I'm wrong.

I'm going off on 5th Aug (a Monday) until the beginning of June 2014 - 9 months ML and 4 week holidays, so 10 months in total which is basically what I had last time.

BabyH If you find the anxiety is getting on top of you please speak to someone about it. I felt a lot like you described in my first pregnancy and did go on to have PND afterwards but I was majorly in denial and so never got a diagnosis until DD was 1 and I was back at work. I'll have no qualms about going to the GP straight away if the same happens this time around as I wish I'd gotten it seen to sooner but felt really ashamed like I had no reason to be depressed about anything. It was pretty horrible.

Chuckaluck Fri 29-Mar-13 06:49:14

You don't have to tell your employer when you plan to come back. They have to assume you are taking the full year and u have to give them 8 weeks notice of your return!

BabyHMummy Fri 29-Mar-13 07:21:11

Thanks mrsw i will. I am leaving it til i have my scan next week to see if finding out the flavour help at all and then am off to mw and Dr for help.

I feel like much a fool. I have always wanted to be a mum and have spent yrs mourning that i wouldn't be and now i am gonna be one i don't feel a Damn thing

RuckAndRoll Fri 29-Mar-13 08:57:07

thanks chuck and mrs I didn't realise that. company is quite small so I think i'll give them an informal idea of my plans.
so, had my 20wk scan yesterday, this morning my belly feels really bruised. I didn't realise she'd pushed that hard but it's bloody sore this morning. anyone else have this?
anyone up to anything exciting today? I'm off on a good Friday pilgrimage soon, really hope the weather holds. smile.

Woofers Fri 29-Mar-13 09:07:51

Babyh - are you consultant led at the min? Will you see someone at you scan?

I'm consultant led because of severe depression a few years ago and I still take meds. They offered me 1-2-1 support if I needed it and they have a consultant who has a specialist interest in ant and post natal depression.

I feel the same as you - I have no 'link' to this baby,and I have spoken to my wonderful gp about it. I see her monthly. She says maybe once it starts kicking 50 shades out of me il feel different.

On bad days I resent it from preventing me from riding, training for a triathlon, feeling sick, back pain etc. however I also hate work so the thought of 6 mths off is fabulous. I realise some ppl may see me as selfish / immature / ungrateful - but I'm walking in these shoes so I feel like this. I hope that makes sense. Your not alone.

Talk to someone in rl who you trust. Thinking of you thanksthanks

BabyHMummy Fri 29-Mar-13 09:45:21

Hi woofers yeah am consultant led and Ty for sharing...i was starting to think i was only one!! Should see someone i hope!

I don't feel resentful i just don't feel anything. I dunno why.

FoofFighter Fri 29-Mar-13 12:36:31

I'm struggling a bit to bond with the baby I have to admit. I tried so hard to get pregnant with my exH for 5 long years of nothing, referred for IVF and the whole shebang - then new partner (of a year at that point) and last year I got pregnant without trying, MAHOOSIVE shock, was just getting over that shock and started to feel excited when we lost it sad then of course the early days with this one were full of stress and doubt and I couldn't relax, so yes I understand the feelings all too well.

DaveMccave Fri 29-Mar-13 18:19:34

Foof I've got my nappies from cloth nappy tree. Got some xs bamboo sandies, bimbles and diddy diapers as they are recommended as the best 2 parter newborn nappy. Then I saw a load of teeny fits for sale (tiny, Velcro all in ones) so got them too. Thy are adorable, and so trim! I've also got 2 little joey all in ones that have a snap down for umbilical too, they are so small. I'm going to sell on some of the bimbles and diddy diapers if your interested.

MrsWajs Sat 30-Mar-13 01:50:46

Don't feel foolish BabyH your feelings are not uncommon for a lot of women.
I totally get the 'feeling nothing' thing. I tried for a year before I fell pg with DD and I expected to be over the moon when I finally did but I didn't. At. All! Hated being pg up until about 25/30 weeks and then loved it!! I'm weird! But then same again once she was born, took me a good few weeks before I felt I bonded properly with her so don't feel upset if you are the same, not everyone immediately gets the overwhelming rush of love thing going on.
It's tough going this pregnancy malarkey sometimes smile

Sorry to hear about your earlier mc foof thanks

So it's wedding venue viewing today!! I'm now slightly dreading it as I'm only going to have had about 2 hours sleep before we go! But still kind of excited at the same time AND a few hours away with no kids! Yay!! smile

BabyHMummy Sat 30-Mar-13 08:03:59

Thanks mrsw. Had a long chat with a rl friend yesterday and has put a few things into perspective. Am gonna talk to hospital on Friday when i go for my scan. DP is being amazing. Keeps telling me i will be fine, we will get through this together. Considering he always said he didn't want another child he has been adamant from day 1 that we are having this baby and he is excited. Still struggle to believe it but am questioning everything at the moment!!

Knowing other people have gone through it is a real help so thank you Xxx

Abilee90 Sat 30-Mar-13 09:16:35

Woofers - i get the whole horse ridding thing as it was horrible not being able to ride.

Bonding isnt something that just clicks on. Its normally when you feel them kick and you dont feel them for a day you realise just how much u want them. Thats how i bonded with elle. It takes time to adjust to all the change and the amount of things you have to adjust in your life. Everytime you feel unbonded think about what life gonna be like when they are here

I couldnt live without dd now. Shes my right arm, in 15 months i havent spent one night away from her. Shes been by my side since she was born. If i have to an appt and get someone to have her, it feels like someone is torturing me. So the bond does come, dont panic xx

RuckAndRoll Sat 30-Mar-13 10:14:46

mrs have a great time wedding venue viewing. it's so exciting grin don't be put off by the first price they give you if you have a close budget. my dad got 40% off the first quote at our hotel just with a bit of hard nosed negotiation.

I'm being a bit irrational today. the scan pictures we got on Thursday are awful. baby was just not co-operating. I know it shouldn't matter as it's healthy but it's upset me a bit that I don't have any pictures to look at. please tell me to stop being so silly.

bluer Sat 30-Mar-13 10:22:17

Oh my 12 week scan photos were awful....the stenographer keep saying 'oh your pictures are crap! '
Other people at work had clear faces, noses, baby sucking thumb...mine look a but like a bit potato which is all blurry....still love them though! !

FoofFighter Sat 30-Mar-13 12:00:24

My one and only scan pic from DC2 is shit, he was so far on when I got a scan that they couldn't fit him on,(didn't find out til V late!) so it's a kind of split screen of a bit of his face, and then a foot. Nobody but me can see what it is sad

I'm fully prepared for not so clear pics at scan next week as am a bit fat and it does make a difference to the clarity esp with older scanners, not so much with newer ones.

Dave, I may possibly be interested wink am addicted to looking for cute fluff now blush

RugBugs Sat 30-Mar-13 12:32:53

Ruck I didn't get any scan pics with DD because like foof was too far gone for a decent shot. You won't give a shiny poo when you're getting kicked in the ribs every day and later have photos of an actual baby!
I know it seems kinda important now though because they're one of the very few things you have but it passes very quickly.

FoofFighter Sat 30-Mar-13 12:34:10

Good excuse to go and get a private peek a bit later on maybe Ruck wink

RuckAndRoll Sat 30-Mar-13 13:47:30

I know in the grand scheme of things it won't matter, but since when have first time pregnant women been known for rational thought?! I mentioned a private scan to dh who thinks I'm going mad and he said no to spending 100pounds on it.

RugBugs Sat 30-Mar-13 14:32:26

I skipped irrational behaviour first time round, I was far too laid back for my own good actually.
I'm making up for it this time! I actually asked a restaurant to make sure the Gorgonzola on my pizza was cooked properly last weekend blush I have handed over all hoovering to DP already (he is aghast at how often the living room requires doing) and I'm panicing Ryanair won't believe I'm less than 28wks and refuse to let me fly next month!

Our hospital does 3D scans in the usual ultrasound rooms as 12/20wk scans for £65 but I think the only reason DP has agreed is that it's my birthday at the best time to do it.

Woofers Sat 30-Mar-13 18:42:04

Hoovering? Do we not have to Hoover??!!

JollyYellowGiant Sat 30-Mar-13 18:52:57

Hoovering is a bugger if you have SPD. Or PGP.

So is pushing a buggy and carrying a toddler sad

FoofFighter Sat 30-Mar-13 19:15:30

Rug, I'm flying on the 8th, going to take my notes as proof I will only be 22 weeks!

RugBugs Sat 30-Mar-13 20:34:17

I was thinking about taking my notes but it's Ryanair and the binder will take up precious bag space! We have cheekily booked 'baby equipment' for a tenner each way, there will be nappies and a booster seat in the bag but it's mainly so we don't have to carry bags and DD up stupid Ryanair steps (I've also heard a rumour about Manchester not always delivering buggies at aircraft doors).

FoofFighter Sun 31-Mar-13 13:55:35

You should be really taking notes when you go away anyway, but how about just photocopying the relevant page that says your EDD?

FoofFighter Sun 31-Mar-13 13:56:19

ahh premature posting!

Baby did REAL PROPER KICKS lots of times in a row this morning, and very easily felt by my hand, just a shame it stopped as soon as swapped for OH hand hmm

LexiLoganberryBump Sun 31-Mar-13 21:11:12

foof I don't have my anomaly scan till 16th, DD's school have agreed to let her have a hour off school so she can come too.

I used cloth nappies with DD and will be using them again this time, we'll be getting the bumgenius freetime.


Woofers Sun 31-Mar-13 21:50:18

Foof how far are you along? My dh is very impatient and wants to feel it kick.

I have had a 1-2-1 consultation with dr google and after reassuring myself that I don't have a spinal tumour I think I have sciatica affecting s 2. I'm back at work tomorrow, and I'm not altogether sure how I'm going to cope. I do a fairly intensively physical job, which involves crawling around on the floor a lot.

We have also lost a cat. He has gone walkabout. Think he saw a break in the weather and he's gone mouse hunting

Hope everyone else is having a lovely Easter weekend.

RuckAndRoll Sun 31-Mar-13 22:09:16

My DH is convinced there is no point him even trying to feel kicks as the baby have proved itself to be unco-operative so far so he won't be able to feel anything!

Just popped round a friends house for a drink, came home with a bouncy chair, moses basket stand, 10 fitted sheets for a moses basket/pram, 2 bags of toys and a play mat. Apart from furniture we really don't need much else now.

woofers hope you find your cat soon, hopefully he'll make his way home.

21 weeks today smile

RuckAndRoll Sun 31-Mar-13 22:10:37

oh and woofers step away from dr google! I was just on there curious as to what it reckons my back pain is, apparently I could have renal failure, stomach cancer, kidney stones, or most likely muscle strain!

FoofFighter Sun 31-Mar-13 23:34:29

Woofers, 20+5 smile

lexi, that's nice, our hospital do not allow children there, would possibly turn a blind eye at 12 but no way at 20 cause they have all the checks to do and measurements etc. Hope she likes it, how old is she?

I AM HUNGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY! I am sat here munching ham sandwiches when I should really be in bed

MrsPennyapple Sun 31-Mar-13 23:54:03

Evenin' all. I haven't been posting much but have been keeping up with the thread. All ticking along fine here, starting to feel movements that I'm pretty sure DP could feel, but he's either not around at the time, or it stops when he gets near! He says he thought he felt something today, but isn't sure. His skin on his hands is like rhino hide anyway, all thoughened up from working outside all the time, so it might take a bit longer yet smile

In other news, I believe I have finally got a wedding dress sorted! Six weeks before the day, cutting it a bit fine - just hope it's right when it arrives! If not, I'm cutting a head-hole in a bed sheet and tying some twine round my waist, and that'll have to do.

Ditsy79 Mon 01-Apr-13 06:47:36

Lexi - We are also considering using Bumgenius Freetime, mainly because they are all-in-one and don't need stuffing etc. However, this is our first baby, so we don't have a clue whether or not we'll get on with reusables - DH was originally very keen, but has got less so due to the faces friends/family pull when we tell them we will be using reuasables! Have you used the Bumgenius Freetime before?
Hope you all had a lovely easter. We are visiting my parents. Ate far too much chocolate yesterday, but think the baby liked it :-)

Ditsy79 Mon 01-Apr-13 06:49:55

ooh, forgot to put 21+6!
MrsPenny - congratulations on getting your wedding dress - v exciting!

JollyPurpleGiant Mon 01-Apr-13 08:00:22

We had bamboo nappies for DS and I wouldn't use them again. They were tots bots bamboozles. They took forever to dry. And now we won't have nearly as much drying space so just won't have time.

We will be using the bambino mio nappies though. Which dry very quickly. We don't have enough to use exclusively but can probably use them for about half the time.


RugBugs Mon 01-Apr-13 10:27:42

We've taken 2yr old DD to both scans without any problems (arranging childcare meant family would know when scan was and I didn't want that).
It actually said on my 20wk appt letter, only one other adult and any of your own children. Given the amount of toys in the waiting areas I gather it's pretty standard here.
They even provide a crèche in the delivery unit!

FoofFighter Mon 01-Apr-13 10:49:45

I have some bambino mio prefolds that were given to me way back when I was ttc with ExH, second hand but obv never used by me, I thought bambino mio were not supposed to be that good? Had forgotten about them actually, would need to buy some wraps. I have gotten some Little Lamb bamboo ones for out and about and later on for night times when the baby will hopefully go longer between changes/wakes.

JollyPurpleGiant Mon 01-Apr-13 12:37:34

My bambino mios are not prefolded. They are just squares that you fold over. So they dry very quickly and are pretty easy to use. They worked fine for us but we didn't use them that much. As we are 'mix-nappying' I'm not going to buy any more, just use what we haven't managed to sell from DS.

Used nappies seem to be worth a lot less than they were a couple of years ago sad

You can mix and match wraps too smile

FoofFighter Mon 01-Apr-13 13:15:56

I've seen the ebay cheapy chinese wraps and wondering if they are totally useless or actually ok? They have some lovely patterns on [swayed by pretty things emote]

FoofFighter Mon 01-Apr-13 13:16:54

oh and I think we are talking about the same thing btw, a square that folds into 3, are they not called prefolds anymore?

JollyPurpleGiant Mon 01-Apr-13 13:19:29

I thought prefolds were the ones that were already folded? Like the tots bots bamboozles? Maybe I'm out of touch with the terminology!

Haven't seen the Chinese ones. They sound lovely though.

JollyPurpleGiant Mon 01-Apr-13 13:21:37
FoofFighter Mon 01-Apr-13 13:26:08
JollyPurpleGiant Mon 01-Apr-13 14:24:07

Thank you smile

DaveMccave Mon 01-Apr-13 16:16:08

I'm not keen on pre folds or 2 partners like little lambs (except for night time) they are just too bulky for me. My dd was a skinny thing though. It's pockets and all in ones for me. (And some v slim fitting xs newborn fitted for pooplosions!) I love reusables but like bright colours and as much like a disposable as possible. So pockets.

The eBay cheapy pocket nappies are pretty good, as long as you buy something like little lambs boosters for them or use other inserts. They are like unlabelled fuzzi bunz pockets. They won't fit newborns (too big) but will fit from 12lb on. No birth to potty will fit a newborn by the way. I'd advise waiting, or using prefolds or Muslins if you don't want to buy xs too. You can by second hand xs and sell on for same price though so I can't understand why people are so reluctant to get them. How can they resist such tiny cuteness?!

LexiLoganberryBump Mon 01-Apr-13 16:18:54

Ditsy I haven't used them before, they look great don't they, I love that theres no stuffing and with the flaps they're meant to dry fast.

With my DD I used the original old school terry cloth squares, then the mio prefold which jolly and foof were talking about up thread. I was amazed at the many options out there this time round.


FoofFighter Mon 01-Apr-13 17:47:04

Dave I've got a load of muslins that I was hoping to use at first and will buy a few xs wraps (will probably use dispos for first two weeks full time though while concentrating on getting bf sorted)

Glad to see a positive write up about the chinese cheapies smile I'd be using better boosters with them if I got any.

Interesting reading on the re-usables. I know nothing but I do want to use them!
Is anyone else experiencing rib pain? I'm not sure how long it should last but OW! I'm only 5'1" so guessed I would need to 'make space' ! confused

JollyPurpleGiant Mon 01-Apr-13 19:55:20

PFEs... You should get that checked out. MW should be able to advise what's normal and what's not. I'm sure it's fine, but I know my mum had some issue with her ribs when she was pregnant with twins and they would have been able to make it less sore had she told them earlier smile

That was a bit garbled, sorry!

FoofFighter Mon 01-Apr-13 20:07:36

think it's around now that the ribs expand so that could explain it, especially if you are only wee PFEs, I'm 5ft 7 and quite long in the body, don't recall having rib probs previously apart from being booted in them!

OxfordToLondoner Mon 01-Apr-13 21:10:15

My birthday today. This time last year I was dancing to loud music in the garden having been drinking since midday, and basking in the heat. Somewhat different this year. Recovering from an all weekend ear infection, and DS's 5th birthday & party on Saturday. On reflection, I am very happy. It's going to be a good 43rd (ouch) year...

Abilee90 Mon 01-Apr-13 21:58:48

Happy birthday oxford! I also have been ill but with a chest infection. Went out of hours doc to be told she wont give me antibiotics as i'm allergic to penicillin and without speaking to my gp :/ so got to go to my gp surgery tomorrow. Not what i wanted to do but i sound like i've smoke for 40 years.

Dh has gone from sweet and caring to being nasty and uncaring back to caring :/ cant keep up. So planning an early night as i feel so crappy :,(

Dd has been really loving to me and really sweet. She broke into one of her easter eggs today (well i did for her) and she had a white choc beard. Too funny.

Hope everyone ok.

22 weeks tomorrow smile xxx

Autumn12 Mon 01-Apr-13 22:20:32

Ah that's sweet about your DD Abilee.

I seem to have some sort if pinched nerve thing in my left thigh. I keep getting painful electric shock type pains that come at random. They only last a few minutes but are really painful.

Is any body else finding clothes a problem now? In the past two weeks my bump seems to have really popped out. So I can no longer wear my normal trousers and my coat won't fully button up. I'm not sure what I'm going to do if this freezing weather continues as I don't want to spend money on a maternity coat or any winter clothes that I won't (hopefully) need for very long. It was supposed to be warming up by now do that I could make do with a few lighter and looser items that I already have until I'm big enough for proper maternity wear.

muddybloodypuddles Mon 01-Apr-13 22:44:33

Know what you mean Autumn, my maternity coat is made more for spring-time so I have been managing to zip up my normal winter coat but I can only just do it now and its really uncomfortable as everything is squashed

My bump seems to have got enormous (again) this week, bit worried about how early I am starting to look like an elephant hmm

Happy birthday Oxford! 43 is still young ;-) - it was my dh's b'day last week and last year it was 23 degrees and we had a barbeque for his birthday - this weather is bonkers!

Abi - hope you're feeling better soon x

Still haven't bought anything for the baby - am I in denial?!? At first we said once the 20wk scan is okay, then after getting pp diagnosis dh is saying not until 24wks when baby is 'viable' (he knows how to stop me worrying eh)... We still have stuff from DS so won't be stuck obviously but anyone else not actually bought anything yet??

MrsPennyapple Mon 01-Apr-13 23:16:38

Remembering when I was pg with DD I had chronic rib pain. I'm 5'7 and quite long in the body (like Foof) I found that the only relief I could get was lying down. I don't think I ever mentioned it to my midwife either, perhaps I should have! I'm afraid it didn't really let up, so do mention it to the mw and hopefully she can do something for you.

I would add that so far this time, I have only had painful ribs once, and that was when I was wearing a fairly new bra, so not very stretchy. Once I'd changed it for a knackered stretchy one, it was loads better.

I've also been wondering about coat-related matters, as mine is almost at it's limit now. I am glad I kept the stretched-out-of-shape hoody I wore last time round, as it's the warmest thing I've got that fits now!

22 weeks today and expanding daily - had put on 1st 2lb at last check, a couple of days ago!

Thanks ladies! I will mention to MW if it doesn't ease up.
I managed to get a (very ugly) maternity coat in the sample sale at work for £2 (annoying smug face) but its a duvet so perfect today but not when it's slightly warmer (less smug)
I'm now officially huge so am in full blown maternity. Saw SIL at weekend who had her 3rd last July and I'm now as big as she was when she had her DD.
23 weeks today

RuckAndRoll Tue 02-Apr-13 11:48:20

How is everyone today?

I'm panicing a bit and can't decide whether I need to call the midwife or if I'm being silly. During the night DH rolled over and dropped his arm down hard on my bump (almost like a punch, he's a lead weight when asleep), this morning I've got pains like period pains. There's no blood and the baby has given me a few jabs this morning but I'm sat at my desk really not sure what to do.

Typically I then spent the rest of the night only managing to doze and trying to keep as far away from him as is possible when in bed, DH carried on snoring, oblivious to his sleep actions!

We went through our list last night and realised furniture and a moses basket are the only bigger bits we have left to get. We've manged to be far too organised and have pretty much all the stuff (apart from nappies, maternity pads etc).


OxfordToLondoner Tue 02-Apr-13 13:18:10

Call the midwife right now. There's no point worrying. Even if (as almost certainly) there's nothing wrong.

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Tue 02-Apr-13 13:56:11

Yes Ruck do call your Midwife, even just to put your mind at rest. Are you rh negative? They may decide to gve you Anti-D so it's worth letting them know.

I am following the reuseables talk with interest. I really want to use them, and have done lots of research including filling in the nappy lady questionnaire, but it looks like we may not be able to move from our rented flat now sad. I don't know if it's practical with a dodgy washing machine that barely cleans our clothes now never mind a load of dirty nappies and just a drying rack indoors. We do have an outside line but it will be weather dependent of course.

I really want to use them as I feel it will save money and I don't like the waste with disposables. Have been looking at the possibility of Eco disposables and wet composting but will have to compost at my parent's house!

RuckAndRoll Tue 02-Apr-13 14:03:50

Ijust I'm rh positive so ok on that front. Just realised the only place I have the midwives phone number written down is in my notes, which are at home so can't call until I get back from work. I've googled and have a number for the team of midwives but I was told only to call that if my midwife wasn't answering and it was an emergency.

Learn from my mistake and make sure your midwife number is in your mobile/written down somewhere obvious.

BabyHMummy Tue 02-Apr-13 14:59:40

Awww rugs hope you are ok!!

I am joining on the crazy organised we only need to get the hospital stuff like maternity and breast pads oh and the cot mattress. I am 20+2 today.

Already have starter kit of nappies wipes etc and a couple of friends who have had babies over the last year and have left over newborn and first size nappies who have kindly given them to us so that is covered.

Just need to decide on ease of disposables or cuteness of cloth nappies

JollyPurpleGiant Tue 02-Apr-13 15:50:09

Happy Birthday Oxford smile

We've bought nothing except a pair of Dungarees for baby so far. But we have almost everything from DS.

We just need: 3 mattresses (cot, Moses basket, pram) some vests and sleepsuits, a blackout blind, A high chair and new pram wheels.

DS has a Stokke Tripp Trapp high chair so we'll get one the same for DC2.

Woofers Tue 02-Apr-13 17:26:28

In a weird bug out bag kind of way my hubby told me to pack a hospital bag at 18weeks. So I have all things for a labour admission. Breast pads, mat pads, nighty, knickers, dressing gown toiletries etc.

I'm not buying for the baby until I know what team I'm on. Although I did get an adorable little vest with stars on with a matching hat. From jo Jo mamon bebe.

We need 3 mattresses too. And will start buying newborn nappies at 7 - 8 mths. We intend on going reusable but since you can't get a lot of use out of new born, and I should think I will be suffering from shock, il be doing easy as poss for a while.

My scan is not thurs after all. It's Tuesday!!!!! A whole week!!!!!!!

Happy birthday wine

Hello, I'm updating between trips to vomit in the bathroom. Really not handling the Hyperemesis too well the past few days. Largely I think this is because my lodger moved in yesterday so I am going a bit OTT with housework, and completely knackering myself as well as the awful smells of cleaning products setting me off. Back at work between my daily hospital visits now too, so pretty exhausted really.

Baby is due in 17 weeks now! Which means I have 15 weeks left at work, not so long really.

I am hoping to feel a bit better before long, I have no baby clothes, or nappies or anything like that and I'll need some energy to get that all sorted.

Stopsittingonyoursister Tue 02-Apr-13 23:39:20

Wow - so many messages over the Easter break! Hope everyone had a good Easter and got enough Easter Eggs to last at least a week!

Oxford - happy birthday!

Waves - I don't know how you do it. Hope your stbexh left without too much trouble or pettiness, given what he's put you through already.

Ruck - hope everything was OK once you got home and rang the MW. Good idea about putting the number in my phone.

MrsPenny and MrsW - hugely exciting about the weddings! Have you got something borrowed, blue, old, new and MN?!

After all my worries and complaining blush our weekend away with the MIL wasn't actually too bad. The DC loved it. Their Uncles were over from Brussels, so brought tonnes (literally) of Belgian chocolate with them and hid it all over the yard and garden - it took ages for the kids to find it all! Plus we had good weather, comparatively speaking, so although it was freezing, it was also sunny and we all had good walking gear so could get out and about. I need to just really try to get over the lack of bleach, lack of food suitable for the kids, and lack of any sort of flexibility on MIL's part, and then we would go more often...!

First proper day of the holidays today, and has been fab. Stayed in PJs until gone 9am, friends came over for lunch (9 kids in the house = mental), library, park. Bless DD, she fell asleep in front of the Cbeebies ballet at 5.30. We are currently trying to get her to be dry through the night, and so far (only day 2!) she has done really well. I am very proud of her, she's not 3 until May and DS was 3.5 before he was dry through the night.

You are all very organised about getting organised. I need to start getting stuff down from the loft and making lists!


RuckAndRoll Wed 03-Apr-13 11:03:37

waves not good your feeling rough again. Don't push yourself, explain to your lodger and relax as much as you can (Easier said than done I know).

Stopsitting thanks, feeling fine today, baby obviously knew I was worried so spent most of yesterday afternoon and evening practicing it's kicking smile and well done to your DD, will be easier only having one set of nappies to manage once baby arrives.

Well I'm having a major wardrobe crisis today. It's DNs christening in a few weeks and I've no idea what to wear. I normally live in jeans and tshirt or black work trousers and a smart top, easy. I have a maxi dress in turquoise which fits and the shape is good but it's very bright and summery and I don't have a jacket that would work with it - far too cold for bare arms.

Arghhh would this dress be too smart/stade for it do you think?!

FoofFighter Wed 03-Apr-13 11:12:38

Scan today, feeling very nervous. everyone has had good scans with no problems and feelign my old age and thinking there'll be something wrong. I think too much confused

Re equipment, just needing cotbed, mattress, cot sheets, and more cloth nappies, then got to do my stuff for the hospital so breast pads, maternity san pads, knickers etc

Not much at all really, probably should have spread it out a bit longer!

BabyHMummy Wed 03-Apr-13 11:16:34

Good luck foof mine is Friday and am terrified!!

ruck dress is nice, maybe brighten with accessories or scarf?

FoofFighter Wed 03-Apr-13 11:19:34

Answering the fb sos re dress ;) I think it's absolutely fine for a christening smile and it'll be fine for work after too smile

FoofFighter Wed 03-Apr-13 11:19:57

Thanks H smile (ignore the rude comments on the other thread btw!)

RuckAndRoll Wed 03-Apr-13 11:27:17

Foof everyone worries about their scans, irrespective of their age, my 90 year old gran informs me the worry lasts at least 55 years (Dads age!). Hopefully baby will be there waving or blowing bubbles or being un co-operative like mine

Thanks for the SOS response, DSIL is so fashionable and will look amazing in whatever she throws on. DH says 'that's fine/lovely' to everything I try on, even when it looks awful.

FoofFighter Wed 03-Apr-13 11:32:12

If you want something a bit brighter how about the same on on tesco link in the coral kind of print?

RugBugs Wed 03-Apr-13 11:39:38

I live in 3/4 length sleeve jersey dresses, that one looks very nice.
Have you looked at fat face Ruck? Not maternity but their jersey dresses are often rouched under the bust and very roomy, I have a red heart print one from last winter that is lovely.
I would probably wear that dress with a waterfall cardi (I don't get why they are hated on MN, they are v.handy for public bf'ing) and a nice big brooch.

JollyPurpleGiant Wed 03-Apr-13 12:48:14

I got a maternity dress in New Look. On their website they have 100 ish to choose from:

FoofFighter Wed 03-Apr-13 16:20:50

Scan went ok, no detectable problems that they could see, pics on profile smile

muddybloodypuddles Wed 03-Apr-13 16:33:18

Hurray foof, glad all was okay smile

Ruck - that dress looks fine for a christening - I went to a wedding when pg with DS and bought a lovely jersey dress from blooming marvellous, used it again for another wedding 5 weeks after birth

JollyPurpleGiant Wed 03-Apr-13 16:39:59

Good news Foof. I love your pics smile

RuckAndRoll Wed 03-Apr-13 16:47:20

Great news foof very jelous of all your pictures.

Seems a general concensous (sp?) that the dress is fine so I'll order it in and see. Everything else I've ordered lately resembles a tent on me so not remotely hopeful! Discovered earlier boots has maternity tights in our local store so useful to know for the panic which will probably happen in a few weeks when I can't find any!

Dexidoo Wed 03-Apr-13 16:53:07

ruck dress looks nice, until you put it on it's hard to know how it will look. I've bought most of my mat wear second hand, just splashed out on a dark red isabella Oliver wrap top for nights out off eBay. It is really lovely and now have my eye on a wrap dress. No way I'd spend over £50 on a top but £20 for virtually new I can deal with!

Having a really busy time in work. Usually I pick up extra work all the time to help out but having to step back a bit as starting to feel a bit burned out. Have next week off thank goodness with not much planned except sleeping.

BabyHMummy Wed 03-Apr-13 18:43:20

Foof don't worry about comments and glad your scan went well!!

Ruck maternity night are a bloody nightmare...i have been everywhere for poem and got really pee'd off at the prices...£10+ for a single pair...ridiculous!!!!

Stopsittingonyoursister Wed 03-Apr-13 22:55:59

I like the dress Ruck - I would wear it with a black vest top underneath, but then I find that wrap dresses tend to gape on me around the bust, and I like to have a vest underneath to stop any unnecessary boob sightings! My DMum (who was a teacher) was once wearing a jumper and when she bent over, one of her pupils (about age 5/6) said "oooh MrsStop, I can see your lungs!". We have been a family of vest-top wearers ever since!!

Great news on the scan foof

Dexi don't push yourself too hard, is your boss supportive of you taking more of a step back?

Had a lovely day here today - really sunny, so kids were outside without needing gloves/hat/scarf/wellies etc. They really enjoyed running around and being able to actually bend their arms in their coats!

DaveMccave Thu 04-Apr-13 02:04:43

Word on the street kids, primarni are starting to stock maternity wear. Some of the bigger stores have it already. I'm not a huge primark fan, but might be worth checking out?

Dexidoo Thu 04-Apr-13 07:06:48

Sounds like it could be worth a look thanks dave

stopsitting it is very rare I go without a vest as I am generally a cold bod however now agree the cleavage needs some extra coverage these days!

Work is going to be an ongoing challenge, I am my own boss working in a partnership with around 15 employees so know I have to pull my weight but am usually the first to volunteer and find it hard not to

RuckAndRoll Thu 04-Apr-13 08:23:29

stop I'm rather gifted up top, even before pregnancy so am normally really aware of flashing people. Someone I know insisted she was a size 12 for her wedding dress, even though it was painfully too small, as she knelt down for the prayers it came down (strapless dress) and gave the vicar an eyeful!

Thanks for the heads up Dave I'll pop along to Primark one lunch time and see what they've got.

Had my last antenatal physio class last night website, it's been really good and I'm feeling a little bit lost now. Back is still painful so need to work out if it's midwife or GP to get physio.


Snufflebabe Thu 04-Apr-13 08:59:32

Hi everyone,

We had our scan sat week and baby happy and healthy. We stayed team yellow, we didn't find out with our DD and OH keen not to find out this time. Baby looks very similar to our DD scan photos - hard to imagine that they wont be identical!

Next midwife appointment next week, looking forward to hearing the heartbeat again.

We move house in a couple of weeks to all my energy is going into packing and decluttering. I can't wait to get into our new house, it has so much more space than our current house.


Mrsd77 Thu 04-Apr-13 12:10:39

Hi all. Long time no post (again!) Happy to say the baby gave DH's hand a massive wallop this morning! He was thrilled to bits! Good week for us here. Wedding Anniversary yesterday and off on hols for a week from tomorrow.

I've also gotten v brave and started to buy things. Seems I have an obsession with muslins! Also got myself a lovely Koto changing bag yesterday. Didn't have a "proper" one with DS as I couldn't find one I liked. This one looks great. I'm really pleased. My dad has also offered to buy us a new buggy. Going with mamas and papas zoom.

Now, must stop procrastinating and get the holiday ironing done!


TrixieLulamoon Thu 04-Apr-13 15:02:50

Good afternoon ladies.

Foof Yay for all ok!

Still very jealous of holiday talk. Maybe we can have some nice weather over a weekend while my DD's are at their dads so I can feel like I'm having a holiday?? HINT HINT

Having a little bit of a mare at work re: holidays. How are your employers dealing with holidays accrued while on leave? Are you being allowed to carry them over to the following year? Or are you taking them before you go on maternity? I really don't want to be paid for them, I would rather take the time off though my employer doesn't seem to know much about the rights of a pregnant employee and it's driving me crackers.

Thanks Dave for the heads up re Primani.

We bit the bullet and ordered a Bugaboo for almost a grand (not including extras ie car seat) and now work is talking possible redundancies. Sods law right?? (DH is SAHD)


muddybloodypuddles Thu 04-Apr-13 19:31:35

trixie - not sure with holidays as I asked for them as payment with my last job, they will normally only let you carry over max 5 days which have to be taken in the first 3mths of year. Sorry to hear about redundancies, you could send it back? Or just think good job you bought it now while you have the money! smile

mrsd - where are you going on holiday? Am v jealous, have a good time!

snuffle good to hear scan was good, good luck with moving!

I am also quite well endowed up top so would never do a wrap dress without vest, I am quite envious of those that can without looking like they're in a porno lol

Just got back from Cornwall after long drive with horrible sore throat and stuffy head and it is snowing :-/ BUT having a lie down on sofa and baby cheered me up with lots of movements and kicks that both DS and dh could feel and they could see my belly moving grin

muddybloodypuddles Thu 04-Apr-13 19:32:31

Forgot to say - 22+3

Woofers Thu 04-Apr-13 19:56:12

Steam steam steam gringringrin kärcher arrived yesterday and today was my day off gringringringringringringrin

Well jell of those going on holiday. hmm I really am craving some sun.

I had myself convinced that today was scan day, but no it's next Tuesday.

Holidays - I go on mat leave beginning aug so the bank hols that I have added to my hols are taken off me. So aug bank hol and Christmas and new year. Other than that I get the full amount. I have no idea how much that is but since I'm not taking a full year mat leave I might take march as annual leave. And go back in April. . . .

Christelle2207 Thu 04-Apr-13 21:09:27

Re holidays seriously pissed off here! Spent ages researching hols for June ages ago and booked Brittany ferries gite holiday in France. Found out by chance today that Brittany ferries absolutely definitely won't accept anyone who is more than 32 weeks on return - no letters accepted, it's a boat FFS!
I will be 33 when we come back. Aarggh! Considering dh going by boat/car and me flying, which is doable in theory because flybe will take me up to 34 weeks with a letter, but who knows if I'll actually get that. More likely we will cancel (grrrrr) and try and sort something out in uk instead. Feel so stupid, never occurred to me that taking a sodding boat would be out of bounds sooner than a plane. Obviously I'm stupid and naive.

On another not went to hospital for maternity dep. tour this eve. They kept us waiting for 25 minute then made it really brief and hurried as they were "so busy" yet I couldn't hear any screaming women/ babies or anyone running around like you see in OBEM. Anyway it was ok, and the midwives seemed competent, but there was something of a discussion about where you park if you come in the middle of the night- all the normal car parks shut at 10pm and the mw didn't know!!! Doesnt exactly fill me with confidence....not a good day.

JollyPurpleGiant Thu 04-Apr-13 21:42:31

Can you not take the train or channel tunnel home?

Stopsittingonyoursister Thu 04-Apr-13 21:57:34

Christelle as long as you aren't blocking an emergency entrance/exit, I would park right outside the door! We have a separate entrance around the back of the hospital with a separate car park (presumably so that you don't have to walk past everyone in full blown labour). When we went in with DS and DD, DH just abandoned the car as close to the door as he could get and went back to sort it out once I was comfortable (or in DD's case once she'd arrived because she was so quick!).

The Eurotunnel is really good, and you can get the car on the train - can you cancel the ferry or just do the ferry one way? The roads up to the tunnel are fab and ever so quick, but it depends how far you have to drive either side.

Trixie I have to take any leave accrued in the year that it is accrued iyswim. My holiday year runs April to March, so I have to get all my holidays in before I go off on mat leave, and will then have full year's leave when I go back in July 2014. So, I am taking holiday now, over May half term, and then July, go on mat leave 28/7 and then going back to work 26/7/14. Does that help?

muddy very jealous of your visit to Cornwall, we love it there, usually go twice a year. We are going down in May half term, but missing the August holiday this year (for obvious reasons!). Going to try and wangle a break over October half term....

snuffle congrats on the good scan. Best of luck with the move! Are you going to new area, or upsizing in the same area?

Dave good tip on Primarni!

Christelle2207 Thu 04-Apr-13 22:10:41

Thanks both, I would be too far gone when we go too (by 1 day) so considering the tunnel both ways. Would end up costing more and would add a lot of time to the journey which I'm not keen on.... I was looking forward to the overnight boat trip!!!

sitting do you have to take all your leave for the year or just that accrued?

Stopsittingonyoursister Thu 04-Apr-13 22:27:49

Christelle all my leave for that year - for me, that's the equivalent of 6 weeks off.

Locketjuice Fri 05-Apr-13 14:13:43

For everyone not on the Facebook group, I had my scan all is well and having a little pink one smile yay! One of each so really happy!

Everyone worrying about mat. Leave I feel sorry for you! I'm lucky and haven't worked since I was pregnant with finnley (ds1)

I know some of you are having utterly hideous times with OH's and I'm aware that this will all seem petty in comparison but DH is driving me mad. We have a great relationship and since I got PG he is super affectionate. But. He does ever-so-slightly more than he used to around the place and thinks he deserves an effing medal.

This weekend just gone his family came over. We had 9 adults, 2 teens and 2 infants. I tidied the house dusted and vacced top to bottom, sorted the bedding out for everyone, did all the shopping, made cupcakes and ran around all day. He walked the dog (on his bike so had fun) and cooked the goose. He thinks he pulled his weight. He had time to play golf and go sailing - which I was happy for him to do as he wont have much chance after DD arrives for a while. I watched 2 episodes of Criminal Minds and felt guilty.

His family apparently had a go at him and now he is "depressed" that everyone thinks he's a bad husband (over-reaction much?!?) and feels I should have said more about how I didn't feel he pulled his weight - I did mention it a few times but if I push it too much I just get the martyred look and I can't be arsed with the discussion thereafter as I always end up feeling like I've been unreasonable. Maybe I am?

I know I don't ask him to do much as a rule (I do all laundry, dishwasher/kitchen and he cooks 1/2 times per week when I ask him to, he walks Dog and does garden/car stuff). So I've got myself into this situation to some extent but I have 3.5 months left to train him to SEE what needs doing without being told and pick up the slack. I have 3.5 months to train me to ASK for help when I need it without feeling guilty... I also know I'm liable to be quite passive aggressive when stressed and can be a cowbag when tired - I don't want to rip him a new one when DD is 3 weeks old...

Anyone got any advice on how to train a well looked after DH? I've just bought "How to baby-proof your Marriage" in the hope it might help...

Stopsittingonyoursister Fri 05-Apr-13 16:57:52

ARRRGH!! Got on the scales this morning - I've put on 1stone 9 pounds, and am only 23 weeks!! I am going to be heffa by the time I'm at 40 weeks! Please reassure me and tell me that is within the bounds of normal at this stage....

locket fab news on your scan!

Remembering no real advice, I live with a DH who actively asks me to tell him what needs doing - IME (only the one DH) men just do not see the jobs that need doing, so you have to ask them. Perhaps sit down one evening when you're both relaxed and not stressed and work out a timetable - list all the jobs and then divide them between you so you each have your own areas of responsibility, and then schedule some free time for both of you, so say Saturday morning you get to lie in and recover from the week, and then say Sunday morning DH gets to do his sailing or whatever? Would that work? I don't know if that would work or whether it would be too much for you both at the moment? I'm sure some others will be along later with better advice!

muddybloodypuddles Fri 05-Apr-13 20:17:27

Remembering - I think this is quite a trait with men! My dh thinks he's a right martyr when he does things. Do you work? I am sahm so find I do everything as I feel guilty that he has to work so much whilst I don't earn anything - however I am also aware that looking after a 3yr old is also a full time job and,although I don't 'earn' I am still 'saving' us nursery fees - I have to remind myself this a lot. I think naturally a lot of women take on the majority of the domestic stuff, sometimes without realising it then you sit down one day and realise you are doing nearly all of it... but a lot of the time it's also because we're not very good at asking for help and men see things very much in black and white. Example today, I went with ds to friends house for about 4 hours and dh has day off so agreed to do shopping, I had put a load of washing on as we got back from Cornwall yesterday, so when I got back he had done exactly as I had asked him(no argument there) but when I asked if he managed to put the washing out his reply was that I hadn't asked him to do that so it wasn't on his list <roll eyes> so I do find I have to lay out exactly what I would like him as he won't normally take that initiative and think 'oh I think the floor needs a vacuum'. I am finding it difficult now as the hosp said I shouldn't do any housework due to my placenta previa, I had an inward moan as that means I will have to be asking dh to do all sorts of things and sometimes I will ask him to vacuum and he gets round to it 2 or 3 days later.... (and with a dog and a cat it needs vacuuming quite often). So this is a good test for me as baby needs to come first and when we were both working he did an awful lot more than he does now. Also, when he does things he has to list them all in great detail, i.e. he doesn't just 'do' the kitchen he empties the dishwasher, refills it whilst rinsing things and putting bits in the bin and wiped the sides, etc. and thinks he deserves some kind of medal lol. But I do partly blame myself as I just took over all domestic chores. I think stopsitting has a good idea because men generally don't realise all that we do as we don't advertise it! And if you write down all the chores to divvy up it will make him realise just how much you really do!
Sorry I've gone on there a bit blush

duende Fri 05-Apr-13 22:09:28

Checking in after not posting for a while.
I've put on 7kg (over a stone) and I'm 23 weeks. I think I am bigger this time round and my bum is growing more too :/

Looking forward to our last holiday for a while - we are off to lanzarote in 2 weeks time smile it will be DS's first foreign beach holiday and I really hope he enjoys it.

Also, my pushchair arrived today -a black baby jogger city versa. I love it!

JollyPurpleGiant Fri 05-Apr-13 22:20:32

Remembering, it is probably good that you're discussing it now. And good on his family for having a go at him!

I think you'll just need to tell him what needs done and he'll need to make sure he does it.

Here, I do the vast majority of housework - including all washing, nearly all cooking, hoovering (except the stairs), recycling, bathrooms, etc.

DH puts out the bin and hoovers the stairs. But he does ALL the garden stuff and for almost all the big jobs, like painting a room or decluttering a cupboard he is the driving force. He also cleans up the kitchen after tea most nights. And cleans out the fish regularly.

We have different standards though. DH would like the house to be spotless with even the doorhandles polished (wtf, he's mad!) But because I do most of the cleaning it is done to my standards and my priorities.

JollyPurpleGiant Fri 05-Apr-13 22:22:41

I've put on about 5kg since June. less since pg started though as I had put on weight before getting upduffed. Running around after a toddler is limiting my weight gain I think.

I'm 19+1, nearly half way!

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 05-Apr-13 22:29:10

Pre DS I was 122lbs, at 21wks pregnant I weighed 140lbs & full term with him I was 160lbs(!) Lost it all very quickly afterwards.
Was 122lbs before this one, am currently at 138, but hoping to follow suit & lose it all quickly again...like Jolly, having a toddler helps!
Stop, there is no normal! But as long as you're not eating a massive chocolate cake or big mac meal everyday it's fine smile

Remembering, I don't think it's something you can do pre-DC arriving as you have no idea how both of you will handle it/the routine you'll be in with baby.
Pre-DS I did the majority of housework/food prep but that has changed massively, and on a day-by-day basis we just do what we see/the other asks us to do, for example I always iron DH's shirts, but the last week he's been doing it.

Woofers, envy have you steamed the live out of everything?

Hurrah for all the purchasing going on, we're leaving the buggy until we've got a 6month old, hoping to get by with just the slings.


FoofFighter Sat 06-Apr-13 11:37:45

Locket how lovely, congratulations smile

I haven't weighed since my booking, going to ask at 24w appt to be done (they don't routinely weigh you anymore)

JollyPurpleGiant Sat 06-Apr-13 12:30:07

Just want to say, I hate being pregnant.

I have PGP, numb fingers, crap skin. I can't sleep. And today we have driven 200miles from home in a rare child-free escape only for me to be puking up everything I eat. Which I presume is not pregnancy related but it's shit anyway.

I know lots of you are having shit times, I'm just feeling sorry for myself today.

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Sat 06-Apr-13 12:46:56

Aww, just wanted to sympathise with you Jolly. I am either in niggling discomfort or outright pain in my bum cheek and my pubic bone at the front with my ?PGP and have to wait 2 weeks for a physio appointment. I too am finding it hard to sleep - soo painful to turn over, and hellish if I move my leg at the wrong angle. Struggling with sleep also. It hurts to lie on my back, too much pressure to lie on my front, starting to get rib pain too I think!

Dont get me wrong, i know it could be worse and I am utterly thrilled to be pregnant, but I am a crap pregnant person. I can't believe some people enjoy this. Awful wishy washy knackered 1st trimester, onto pain in the 2nd. I am back to work after being signed off from mid next week and am dreading it. Occupational Health said to 'take it easy' and I don't see how it's possible, I know I will be in pain after 8 hours, a 10 minute trip out now makes me seize up.

My boyfriend concurs, we wanted 3 but he said he is banning me, I am obviously not cut out for it and ours will be an only child (tongue firmly placed in his cheek I think!).

LouiseD29 Sat 06-Apr-13 13:40:08

Successful scan today at 22 weeks! All looking healthy and developing well, and... it's a GIRL!!!!

RuckAndRoll Sat 06-Apr-13 17:14:05

Congratulations Louise after the initial influx of boys it seems the girls are evening things out.

Spent the morning doing housework, sat down for a quick rest of my back and just woke up 2 hours later! oops.

Sorry to hear your finding it hard Jolly and IJust Just keep focusing on the end results and moan away as much as you like!

RugBugs Sat 06-Apr-13 17:59:07

Congratulations on a good scan Louise and hurray for more girls!

I count myself very very lucky that DP and I both had untidy siblings so neither of us are good at tolerating mess, DP just gets on with it. I swear when DD was born I did no housework or cooking for months, I was limited to what I could do with my one free arm!
Remembering I don't think there's much you can do beforehand except prepare them and drill it in that if you won't be able to do anywhere near as much as you do now. Then just sit on the sofa with newborn and dictate away!

Jolly I'm not having much fun this time round. I had an eclair for lunch and it's still repeating on me, I'm sure I'd have heartburn if I could manage to eat more than a few mouthfuls per meal. I'm really excited about getting crutches which is quite sad.

Woofers Sat 06-Apr-13 18:43:46

Jolly and I just wore - I am joining your club. I hate being preggers too. Just finished a 10hr non stop day and I now feel overwhelmingly sick. Possibly due to the lack of hydration and nutrition.

Sick sick sick interspersed with pain sleeplessness and pain.

I am now looking for dirt and can't wait to steam again.

woofers was it you that wants the jeans? They're clean now so can post them on mon if you pm me your address.

My house is filthy if you want to come and steam here...

TheThinksYouCanThink Sat 06-Apr-13 21:34:42

Can I join? I am due 27th Aug with DC3. Have just found that we are expecting a girl which was a big surprise as I was convinced it would be another boy! Both other DC are boys!

LouiseD29 Sat 06-Apr-13 22:06:35

Congratulations on your girl news, Thinks. And thank you Rug and Rucks. Finding out the sex has made it seem a while new chunk of real! First one for me, so although I'm five months gone, still having trouble getting my head around the reality.

BabyHMummy Sat 06-Apr-13 22:56:29

Hi girls...had my scan Friday and thankfully all is looking fine...am also team pink.

Spoke to mw about my anxiety and feelings of total numbness about it all and she was brill...helped that i knew her outside of her job as i felt more relaxed talking to her so probably was more open about it than i would have been with a random. she ia logging me for extra attention and follow ups to see how i am etc. Also managed to get the issue over having the gtt resolved and they have agreed not to do it (yay) as the risk for me and baby is too high and i do more careful and regular monitoring than they do anyway so they are leaving it with that unless i hit an issue so feeling a little less wound up.

Still feel surreal and cannot get my head round baby let alone the idea of a daughter...but dp's kids have taken news well so that is a relief. Just git to try and get my head around it all i guess...

Word of advice for anyone still to have scans...ask for a couple of pics cos they really struggled to get a decent one for mw...little swine obviously got fed up of posing and decided the had fulfilled her end when she didn't have her legscrossed!! First one was really fuzzy and distorted but second was brill

OxfordToLondoner Sun 07-Apr-13 10:30:19

Shopping opportunity alert! There's a special code to get 30% of EVERYTHING at ASOS Today. But you can only use it if you're a 'premier' customer (basically, you pay a tenner and get free next day delivery and returns for a year). The email says other people will get the code in the next few days (but loads of the best stuff might have sold out e.g. Hot Mile already running low).

I've just bought a load of Hot Milk nursing bras, maternity maxi dresses, Tshirts, tankinis etc (most of which i'll probably send back!) in prep for warmer days. The code is: 30%OFF

Happy shopping ladies....

Woofers Sun 07-Apr-13 21:32:57

Wow oxford that's great thanks.
So do you have to sign up to be able to use the code or are we good to go as we are?

I've spent the day in hospital after an all night vomiting session - home now. My hubby is now in the process of complaining about car parking. At least we had a practice at getting there!!

I've been changing bag inspired by the vib infinity pic on Facebook. But I can't find it online anywhere. hmm

However I do like this one

How is everyone else getting on with shopping?

Woofers Sun 07-Apr-13 21:44:49

Question - hot milk maternity bras are under wired. I thought we were to avoid underwiring?

Woofers. I have Hot Milk maternity bras and they're not underwired - maybe they have different ones? They are sooooo comfy x

muddybloodypuddles Sun 07-Apr-13 22:13:45

woofers I haven't seen any that are underwired? I have 3 hot milk bras and love them :-)

23wks tomorrow - only 17 weeks left to go eek!! smile

OxfordToLondoner Sun 07-Apr-13 22:36:17

I'm not sure about the code - try it tomorrow maybe without signing up to premier. Asos usually pop codes onto their facebook page too. The failsafe way is the premier sign up though.

Hope the bras aren't underwired!

Abilee90 Sun 07-Apr-13 23:58:27

Hey ladies,
After a terrible week. Today has been my silver lining. Had a wonderful day with dd, just what i needed. For those of you on facebook group, you will all know whats been going on. So i wont burden the forum with it also.

No weight gain here yet. Will be glad to gain a bit as i have been really good with eating this past week but we will see. I had gained 2.5 kg by this point with dd. but now i'm running round after a toddler, that has just started walking every where this week! Yay! (Will be regretting the yay, soon i'm sure).

No need for maternity clothes here as i like flowy tops. So i'm pretty much ok. Will need a couple of maxi dresses but that about it.

Chest infection is on its way out yay! Been suffering with no anti biotics but i seem to be getting over it now.

Anyway i seem to have waffled plenty. Bring on a better week!
22 + 6 smile
Hurry up little man xxx

JollyPurpleGiant Mon 08-Apr-13 08:44:27

You can have underwired bras as long as they fit properly.

Hot Milk 'only' go up to a G cup, so not big enough for me. I was a K when my milk came in with DS shock

Thank you for the sympathy folks. I am feeling much better today. Just a bit dizzy still with lack of food I think. Managed to keep down a bag of crisps and half a slice of toast between Friday night and this morning. I think I was running on Ribena! Hungry again this morning though which has got to be a good sign.

Have my first Physio appt on Thursday and the 20w scan a week today.

19+4 (officially half way as I'm having a section at 39w)!

RuckAndRoll Mon 08-Apr-13 09:12:35

Welcome TheThinks, the more the merrier smile

Jolly and Abi Glad you're feeling a bit better.

Off to the midwife this morning for check up. I get the impression she's the sort of person who wants to tell you what's happening and not be questioned, so of course I have a nice list of questions to ask her!


Woofers Mon 08-Apr-13 13:33:03

hot milk under wired

I much prefer under wired as I am a reasonable 36e normally but with milk anticipated they prob wont fit well.

Ruck - good luck with your list of q. I get the impression from my midwife they have so much to get thru in such a short time they prey for no questions. I have a question tho. When do you talk birth plans?

RuckAndRoll Mon 08-Apr-13 14:10:39

Well midwife was very different and chatty today so I did get a chance to ask my questions, and got answers to them all smile

Baby gave the midwife a boot in the hand when she was examining me, and booted the doppler too. Feel a bit bad though as DH hasn't felt it kick yet even though he spends ages sat with his hand on my tummy, yet the midwife gets 2 boots in 2 minutes.

JollyPurpleGiant Mon 08-Apr-13 14:22:20

Woofers I think I wrote mine sometime around the 34 week mark last time. I didn't really bother discussing it much with my midwife, beyond clarifying what interventions were and were not available at the place I planned to give birth.

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 08-Apr-13 20:30:49

Welcome Thinks!

Woofers, asked about hospital vs home/birth centre early on but with DS (end of 2011 birth) birth plans weren't mentioned until 28wk (in a 'let me know next appointment' way), my birth plan is whatever I need as I need it. grin
Glad you didn't spend too long in hospital.
We have this DH-friendly changing bag, ignore the poor review, it's really well made (although the bottle pocket can't fit a full size Dr.Brown).

If any of you haven't signed up for the Boots baby club, the free changing bag you get through them is amazing for just one baby (basic, in black)!

Abi, glad things are looking up for you.


Stopsittingonyoursister Mon 08-Apr-13 22:51:11

You've reminded me Gary - I need to sign up for Boots baby club again, the baby changing bag is very good. I have also dropped LOADS of hints regarding a new Cath Kidston changing bag so hoping my DSis has picked up on them!!

Woofers, I think I wrote my birth plan at about 34 weeks ish with both of mine, but it literally said something along the lines of: "We want to thank all the medical staff for the care and attention that we are receiving. We trust your expert medical knowledge and advice. We want the best possible outcome for both mother and baby, and will take your advice on the safest and most appropriate way to reach that objective. If at any point I become incapable of giving coherent instructions, you have our joint authority to take whatever steps are deemed necessary" I guess if you have really strong feelings about what interventions you want etc then it is worth writing them down. but I didn't have any strong opinions either way because I didn't really know what I was going to feel like. TBH, I don't think they made any difference to the way my labours progressed and were managed by either me or the medical team - with DD, she was so quick the plan didn't even make it out of the bag!

I don't get my next MW appt until 28 weeks! Only get them at booking, 16 weeks, 20week scan, then 28 weeks, 34 weeks and then weekly from 36 weeks. It's seemed like a long wait between appts actually.


GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 09-Apr-13 12:01:58

StopSitting, I keep on double checking that I haven't missed my appointment as my next one is the last week in May!

The only thing I would like to avoid is forceps...and possibly lying down on the monitor for the entire thing (unavoidable with DS) but they know what's best & they can punch me in the head if it's safer for baby.

For those of you with more than one already, how hard did your first DC find adjusting to DC2+ (and what was the age gap?).
DS will be 20months when this one arrives & we're just ordering 'new baby' books & a newborn doll for him so he 'gets' it a little (hopefully).


Jolly I have Hot Milk non-wired and am up to 36GG so far - I think they do go further just not on all sites...

I've just started Hypnobirthing classes, has anyone else read Marie Mongan's Book / done classes / had experience with it?

Hope all are doing ok flowers

Woofers Tue 09-Apr-13 17:09:07

Scan today. All is well And we are team blue. Much to the relief of my dh.

I however have been told to stop dog training as its 'too risky' according mr health and safety dh. And he is currently looking at buying a riffle. Because that is so much safer! Obviously! I am a little pissed off, when I should actually be delighted following today's news.

Grrrr confusedconfusedangryangryconfusedconfusedhmm

gary it's a while ago, but there are just under 18 months between DS and DD. he was very unfazed by her appearance, and now they are great companions. When they aren't trying to murder each other!!!

Had a soft doll for him that was completely ignored, just made sure there was plenty of attention for them both, well, particularly him eg when visitors came to meet the new baby.

Oh, and 24 weeks today :-)

duende Tue 09-Apr-13 21:22:05

remembering I've read natal hypnotherapy by Maggie Howell, I think the two approaches are similar, but natal hypnotherapy is British and hypnobirthing is American. I have read the book and bought the cd and I listen to it a couple of times a week. I looked into classes but the only ones I could find were £250 and involved five Saturdays, I don't want to spend this much time away from DS when I don't see too much of him in the week.

muddybloodypuddles Tue 09-Apr-13 21:29:54

waves - hope the sickness goes soon!!! That's what I'm planning for DS too, I want people to come round and entertain him rather than helping me with baby / housework - esp as it will be the summer holidays!

woofers - congrats on team blue - I really am not a fan of guns and dh is so we tend to disagree on that subject, he was going to apply for his shotgun licence - erm why?!? (he didn't in the end), just the thought of having them in the house scares me, we've got a little pellet gun that looks like a handgun, dh keeps it on a very high shelf in the garage and DS has never seen it (and never will...) - that's enough for me...

The reflux / heartburn is really starting to kick in now - cue lots of pillows and sleeping semi-sitting up... ho hum, other than that actually feeling quite good at the mo smile, even the pgp seems to have almost disappeared for now.. (sorry for all those still feeling crap)


muddybloodypuddles Tue 09-Apr-13 21:34:24

remembering / duende - I've got the Maggie book too, have read some of it and its quite interesting, however think I'll wait until next scan (32 weeks) to do any more as if my placenta is still really low I'll be having a c-section anyway!

Woofers Tue 09-Apr-13 22:02:48

Opinions please. this set is advertised as unisex. What do you think? I love stars and the sheets are great fun!

BabyHMummy Tue 09-Apr-13 22:05:22

woofers its great fun and did unisex. Xx

Stopsittingonyoursister Tue 09-Apr-13 22:10:34

Woofers congrats on your scan. Why does your DH feel that dog training is unsafe? How big are the dogs involved?! My DH is a bit of a gun freak, but I absolutely refuse to have them in the house, nor to have them as toys for the kids. However, DS has already developed his "gun noise" the minute he went to playgroup <<sigh>>...

Gary mine have 3 years (all bar two weeks) between them, and they were fine. We showed DS pictures of babies in the womb (age appropriate obviously!) and he felt DD kick. When DD arrived, she brought a present for him, and he went a picked a teddy bear for her that she still sleeps with now. We did get a doll and pushchair for him (much to DH's disgust!) but I have to say that was totally ignored. I made sure that I spent time with DS whenever DD slept, and all the family and friends were very good at bringing little presents for DS when they came to see DD. We did have a couple if incidents where DS tried to get on to DD's baby mat/baby chair whilst she was still in it (hence my username!) but that only lasted a couple of weeks. They play really well together now, it is lovely to see; he is really patient with her, and she worships the ground he walks on!

JollyPurpleGiant Tue 09-Apr-13 22:10:38

£32 grin Definitely unisex though

JollyPurpleGiant Tue 09-Apr-13 22:10:57

hmm, that should have been shock not grin

Stopsittingonyoursister Tue 09-Apr-13 22:12:01

PS Woofers - love the M&P set, especially the wallpaper, would look fab!

Woofers Wed 10-Apr-13 13:49:33

yes the price is a bit gobsmacking!! but im sure they will wash well!!!!!

whilst i dont fully agree with guns and the violence associated with them, we live in the country, and DH is a member of a shoot during the season - we eat what he shoots, there is no shooting for the sake of it. I realise that we may have differing views to others on mn. My beef i have with him, regarding the purchase of ANOTHER rifle is this….

1 - we are having a baby in aug and when does he think he is going to have time to 'pop down the range'
2 - in july i will be giving back my work car, therefore we wont have a car for ds (do you like that?! now im team blue!!!) to be transported in.
3 - the sheets i want are £32
4 - the riffle he wants is £400+++++++
5 - i cant do dog agility incase i fall over. . . . he cant shoot incase he gets shot isnt a valid argument apparently

is that no enough reasons??!!! i think so, he doesnt….. bloody boys and their toys.

I could however compromise - if he bought me a car AND a caravan….

grin at Woofers

BabyHMummy Wed 10-Apr-13 16:07:39

Lol woofers!!!

I get the gun thing totally! Maybe a compromise of he will be busy helping you with ds this year but why not save up and get it next season when he will actually get a chance to enjoy it rather than have it locked in a cupboard gathering dust? my dp keeps asking for new land rovers, mountain bikes, boys toys...my off pat response is once we have everything for the baby and we have sold his house with his ex and we have bought one for ua then he can have new toys. so far its working well...am mastering this art of saying no without actually saying no lol

Abilee90 Wed 10-Apr-13 22:51:44

Birth plans are a guideline. Mine may as well have been thrown out the window. So just gonna go with the flow this time. I do really want a water birth.

Guns are a huge no no in this house. Dh wouldnt even dream of asking. He has his music :/ and grands worth of equipment.

Busy busy busy here atm, so just a quick hello. Huge kicks and hiccups from wee man atm. Which is lovely. Zoo with dd tomorrow and then a rest fri i think.

Hope everyone ok.

23+2 xxx

MrsWajs Thu 11-Apr-13 03:49:29

Hello! Sorry been AWOL again, been trying to keep up on fb but just never seem to have time just now!

Think I'm starting to develop full blown PGP so have been grumpy mummy the last few days. Currently at work wishing I'd phoned in sick!! Had no luck with MW yesterday angry was told there's nothing they can do until I'm 20 weeks (umm, you mean in 3 days time!?) and "it is to be expected to be sore with your second" WTF!? What shocking advice, they wouldn't even give me a tubigrip ffs! So have tracked down an osteopath near me and am going to phone for appt tomorrow.

Baby is getting more active or I can feel it more, probably the latter! Scan is finally only 1 week away!! Can not wait!

Will try and keep up better. I am usually lurking but no time to post.


JollyPurpleGiant Thu 11-Apr-13 06:55:06

MrsW that is awful! I have my first physio appt today at 20w. Do you think your GP would refer to physio?

RuckAndRoll Thu 11-Apr-13 10:36:44

MrsW as Jolly says, might your GP be a better bet? I find my GP is scared witless of the fact I'm pregnant so will do whatever I ask with referrals, time off work etc!

I've been trying to get through to book a place on the self refer ante-natal physio since last wed, finally got through today to find out why. The person whos phone line it is only works 9.30-2 Mon-Thur. I couldn't even get an appointment though, she's got to phone me back.

Nearer the time I'll have to get one of you 2nd/3rd timers to look at my birth plan and tell me if it's totally stupid and PFB!


Boosiehs Thu 11-Apr-13 10:48:17

Whoop whoop! Another one for team blue (probably).

the sonographer at first told me he was a girl, then right at the end said "whoops - what's that", and said "Oh dear I think I've made a mistake".

90% sure it's a boy. More importantly all healthy - which I was totally panicking about!

muddybloodypuddles Thu 11-Apr-13 11:12:36

congrats on healthy scan and joining team blue boosieh
Birth plans, I wrote one but nobody asked for it and I just went with the flow, dh knew what I wanted so he was in charge of making sure I got itbut as it was in a birthing centre there are no other drugs available apart from gas and air and pethidine so I just had gas and air. My only requests were to keep active, limited intervention (they only checked cervix once) and for lights to be dimmed and it to be calm. But thus is mainly the way the birthing centre works anyway, think it will be different in a hospital! But if I do go to hospital (haven't made up mind yet) then I would hope to at least keep active (depending on if baby needs constant monitoring).

mrswajs and anyone else suffering with pelvic pain old check out the exercises I put on fb (under files tab) from my physio appt for pgp - mine has really calmed down lately, I put that down to having lots of rest last week while away in Cornwall and starting antenatal pilates. The physio person said antenatsl pilates and antenatal yoga are really good too. She recommended just going to a few classes so you know you're doing it right and then getting a dvd uf you can't afford to carry on with classes. So I'm going to carry on with pilates class and do an antenatal yoga dvd

Feeling knackered today :-/


Boosiehs Thu 11-Apr-13 11:44:05

Thanks v v much mbp.

Has anyone else had hip pain at night? sleeping on my left is a total pain fnar

I've been waking up with chronic hip and back pains. Stretching seems to help a bit - does anyone have any good stretches?

21 today.

JollyPurpleGiant Thu 11-Apr-13 13:52:12

If anyone is interested, here is my birth plan from last time:

Birth Plan
Updated 15.03.2011

The most important thing is that the baby is healthy and given the best opportunity to thrive.

* I would like MrJolly to be with me during the labour and birth.
* I would like to be able to move around if I want to.

Pain Relief
* I do not want any pain relief that will affect the baby
* I do not want morphine derivatives as they can cross the placenta and cause drowsiness in the baby
* Nor do I want a remifentanil PCA
* I will only have an epidural (or spinal block) if a caesarean section is necessary
* I would like to use water during labour (preferably a pool, but a bath if this is unavailable)
* I would like to use gas and air if I want it
* I would also like to move around to find the best position for me at the time

Other medical procedures
* I would like the baby’s heartbeat to be monitored at intervals only, but understand that continuous monitoring may be advised if there are worries and I will agree to this
* I am happy for vaginal exams to take place as necessary
* I would prefer not to have artificial oxytocin to stimulate contractions and would like other options to be exhausted before going down this route
* I would like to give birth to my baby in whatever position I find most comfortable, but probably not in the pool (although I might change my mind on this!)

After the second stage
* I would like a medical professional to tell us the baby’s sex and also to cut the cord
* I would like an injection to help with the third stage of labour
* I would like to cuddle my baby as soon as possible after the birth
* If, for any reason, I cannot do so, I would like MrJolly to cuddle the baby
* I would like to put the baby to the breast soon after birth
* I would like my baby to have vitamin K by injection

If there are problems
* I would prefer not to have a forceps or ventouse delivery and would like other options to be exhausted before going down this route, however I would agree to this if we have tried other birthing positions and anything else that may assist birth first
* Alongside this, I will agree to an episiotomy if it is necessary
* I understand that if the baby is in distress that a c-section might be necessary and would be willing to have one to ensure the health of my baby
* If this is necessary, if at all possible, I would like MrJolly to be present during this and to have skin to skin contact with the baby if I cannot

OxfordToLondoner Thu 11-Apr-13 14:20:04

Oh god, this brings back my birth plan. Which had loads about natural birth....but ended in a C-section! Really good idea to have one though, I defo will again.

JollyPurpleGiant Thu 11-Apr-13 14:38:37

Hah, I'm not going to say what actually happened but the birth plan did go out if the window! Not going to bother to have more than a couple of lines this time as I'm having a section.

20+0 Today!

RuckAndRoll Thu 11-Apr-13 14:45:34

Jolly good to see that. Mine currently consists of my name, alergies etc, DH's name and phone number. I'm tempted just to add 'get baby out safely' but think I may need to give it more thought than that. It's more a guide for DH but by no means a list I expect to happen. I've been on MN too long to know that they very rarely go to plan!

We've started looking at furniture a bit over the last week. How important is a drop side on the cot? I though as long as it had adjustable base height it would be ok.

Also, changing tables, do you need one? We already have an empty chest of drawers, can't we just put a changing mat on top of that and move to the floor if that doesn't feel safe?

muddybloodypuddles Thu 11-Apr-13 16:42:02

ruck drop side for cot useful to save your back, we had a changing table but a chest of drawers will be fine with mat on

boosiehs - have a look on the fb group for my pgp exercises / stretches - if you're not on fb group oi could email them if you message me

Sister has been over today with her little one who is 6mths older than DS and they're just getting to the age where they play quite nicely together, it helps she's that little bit more mature. So sis did my nails while kids made things with play doh.. so kind of relaxing (if you don't mind the kids keep bringing you their 'creations' lol) :-)

JollyPurpleGiant Thu 11-Apr-13 17:04:25

We don't have a drop side cot, but the base goes really high. So it was no problem. Especially because by the time DS was big enough to be pretty heavy he was standing up so didn't need dragging out of a low cot.

We do have a changing unit, but if we had had suitable alternative furnture would have used that. I've changed DS on my knee since he was about 6mos. I think the high unit will be useful post-section though.

BabyHMummy Thu 11-Apr-13 20:37:24

I have a wooden platform thing that locks onto the cot bars and u put a change mat onto it...just have to remember to take it off before dropping the cot side lol

Am still having horrendous pelvic pain :-( really struggling to get dressed and undressed it sucks! May have to go to the Dr

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 11-Apr-13 21:10:19

Ruck, we changed DS on the floor/bed on a towel or the changing mat, didn't need a changing unit.
Other thing to bear in mind, is if you have a climber a cot will be wasted on them...DS was out of the cot (and into his un-escapable travel cot) at 6/7 months as he continually tried to launch himself out of it (on the lowest setting), so if we'd bought a cot it would've only been used for a little while.

Boosiehs, I'm sleeping on the sofa/floor because my back/hips hurt too much on our bed.
Congrats on the scan!

Woofers, congrats on the scan, will have to look through stats & see how many blue/pink we've got, I'm in the Dec'11 group & we're mainly boys, I don't know anyone who has had a girl in the last 2 yrs!
I'm not anti-guns, but I am anti spending money on stuff that won't be used for a year or so.

BabyH, hope Dr can do something about it.


IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Thu 11-Apr-13 21:29:52

Hello, I felt my baby move for the first time late on Tuesday, so exciting! It happened 4 times, then once again a bit later, like a bubble breaking the surface. A bit sporadic since, the odd feeling then a flurry of activity last night. Am looking forward to it getting stronger.

I am back at work this week and in pain sad. The pelvic pain seems to have concentrated itself at the front, every step hurts, I am getting shooting pains and in the afternoon I feel numb or pins & needly. Then at home after a rest I seize up in agony at the front and back and can only stagger around. This is taking it easy, with kindly colleagues, I am dreading being expected to get back to normal and being left on my own to just get on. I just don't think I will manage. Physio next week thankfully.


MrsWajs Fri 12-Apr-13 00:23:55

I think I will try GP although I know for a fact that I can go to the health centre and just ask for a referral form and refer myself! The mw also knows this but said it will take longer that way!! Why I don't know.

I forgot about your exercises muddy will go and find them and give them a try.

Came to work again tonight (mug) and still sore although definitely don't sound as bad as you, TrenchCoat mine is more of an aching pain at my lower back with occasional shooting pains down both bum cheeks and an ache at the front too. It's more tiring than actually painful if that makes sense? It also make me want to cry! Maybe it's not PGP at all but the prospect of having to deal with this for the next 2 weeks is pretty soul destroying.

We have a changing unit/chest of drawers which DD is really too big for now but I have been putting her back on it the last week or so as kneeling and bending over her on the floor is making my back worse!

Jolly I remember your birth plan from last time! I think I used parts of it for mine!! Mine was pretty much standard for a mw led unit, or so they told me. The only thing I found that was different in mine to most other peoples was that I wanted regular VE (because I'm weird and like to know where things are at!) and there was to be no dimmed lights! I can't stand sitting in the dark! DP always wants the big light off at home and lamps on and it annoys me so much, I like to see what's happening!
I wanted to leave the cord attached for as long as possible but as it turned out it was only about 10cms long so had to be cut straight away.
I also initially said I didn't want morphine, for the same reasons Jolly mentions but I did have some in the end because I was so exhausted and it was a choice of have it and get a little snooze or not have it and probably end up being transferred to a bigger hospital because I wasn't coping. After 22 hours of labour I was pretty easily persuaded! And it all turned out well as she was born about 6 hours later and had no ill effects whatsoever.
I'm hoping that birth number 2 will go pretty much the same if not a bit quicker!!

Abilee90 Fri 12-Apr-13 10:33:13

Changing units are a huge no no in this house. Specially when it comes to dmil. Dd has always been changed on the floor on a mat. It only takes a second for them to roll. Thats a big drop where as the floor has no drop what so ever. Too many babies have had cracked skulls and things so i wouldnt even risk it. Just my views. Please noone take offence.

Gonna try and have a water birth this time, was desperate for one with dd but i was strapped to a bed for 37.5 hours.

Baby is kicking really hard now and you can watch it on my tummy. Also managed to kick the tv remote that i was just resting on my tummy.

23 + 4 smile

DaveMccave Fri 12-Apr-13 11:44:08

I didn't write a birth plan last time. Wasn't planning to this time either, and homebirth group doesnt think they are neccesarily a good idea. My midwife will discuss the plans with me before the birth and go over consent forms for routine procedures, but maybe I'll write a list of the non conventional requests incase I have to transfer in to hospital? Things like I want to delay cord cutting until it has stopped pulsating, I want the cord to be tied and not clamped, I don't want syntocin injection for third stage or vitamin K for baby. I'll prob just make sure dp is on the ball for those things if necessary though.

JollyPurpleGiant Fri 12-Apr-13 13:00:29

I must admit, a lot of the reasoning behind my birth plan was so DP would know what I wanted/didn't want and the reasons behind each of my wishes. He's not very good at remembering things, so having it written down helped him. I also wasn't clear how eloquent I'd be in labour so needed to ensure he could speak up for me if need be.

My birth plans both times previously were pretty much essays. Main purpose was so the midwives understood my preferred outcomes and that there was no rush to intervene if things could progress as naturally as possible.

This time will be very similar, so will be specifying no pethidine, and generally no pain relief other than tens or water, no constant monitoring in order to enable me to remain physically active, delayed cord clamping, baby to breast and skin to skin immediately after birth, no vit k injection, natural 3rd stage (no syntocin) I've arranged a doula to be a hopefully calming and spiritual presence during the labour and birth, and also to advocate on my behalf with the medical professionals should that be necessary.

After months of hospital visits a natural birth as with my others, would be wonderful, so keeping my fingers crossed.

MrsPennyapple Fri 12-Apr-13 15:39:15

I didn't do a birth plan last time, I had no idea what to put on one, so just left it up to the midwives to do what they felt was necessary. They asked me questions in between contractions which pretty much covered everything anyway. I did ask that they wait a few minutes before cutting the cord though, as I'd read a bit about cutting the cord too soon not being a good thing. This time round, as we're on team polka-dot (surprise), I think I'd like DP to know the sex first, so I might write a more comprehensive one this time.

Will look at those exercises on fb, thanks MBP.

No changing unit here either. We used her mat on the floor, if downstairs. DD's room is next to the stairs and there is a bit that goes over the stairs, so there is a raised area which is about 18" high and has walls on three sides, so ideal to kneel at for changing. (That might not make much sense. The room is L shaped, but the floor itself is only a rectangle, the bottom line of the L is the raised bit.) Very useful for us, but not much help to anyone else!

Getting lots of wriggling thumping and bumping here, but DP still can't feel it. It's his thick rhino-skin hands that are the problem.

Woofers Fri 12-Apr-13 17:05:04

I'm really interested to hear all the birth plan options. Yet again the majority of the stuff you are including I have no idea about.

Completely see you point regarding baby rolling of changing unit, however I can see why you'd want one post section. I can't imagine the pain getting on the floor each time. However, I can feel a cunning plan coming on ...... I think I shall just use my bed with towel and mat to cover as we have a double height mattress and if baby is on the bed then there is plenty of room to roll. ...... But tbh it will get done where it gets done. Ask me in September !!!!!

My only 2 requests are water birth where possible - due to reducing risk of episiotomy, and I love water.

secondly no spinal unless medical emergency. And even then I'd prefer General anaesthetic. I have lower spine damage, and you just don't quite know where that 6inch needle is gonna go.

What's this about the cord cutting? Does it pulse?! I think I need a crash course in midwifery before August.

I think I will put in something about strong evidence base regarding drugs administered to baby.

And finally I don't want pethadine as its not actually a pain relief, it just gives a sense of euphoria. And I hate not feeling in control - I hate being drunk if you know what I mean.

Been to see the gp today regarding hip and recent hospital admission. Urine and bp back to normal. Hip pain - self referral to obstetric physio.

woofers there is a huge amount of research to suggest that it is beneficial for the baby to receive everything it can from the placenta, so it is best to request that the cord is not clamped until the cord has stopped pulsating. Usually (for ease) it is immediately clamped, but I am definitely requesting that the clamping is delayed. Want to give baby the best possible start.

And with pethidine, it passes to the baby, making it sleepy and amongst other things can make it a struggle to get breastfeeding off to a good start.

I am now on 2 litres of fluids, and 2 lots of IV ondansetron every day, making hospital admissions even longer. The assumption is that I am not just going to get better, given I've now passed 24 weeks. Feeling pretty rubbish about that, and it is such a huge struggle to cope with everything at home by myself. Every time someone has a moan about their OH, I am feeling envy, because I am totally by myself, and am soooo cross about the whole situation, particularly as I have ended up so ill.

BabyHMummy Fri 12-Apr-13 19:33:45

Am reading all ur birth plans with awe and horror...can all these things really happen/need to be planned for? No one has mentioned them to me in terms of mw or hospital but. Under consultant led care for various reasons so suspect until i meet with the anethetist (sp?) at wk 34 it will be irrelevant. my only concerns are if baby is in distress do what ever you need to to get her out safely.

Gary thanks hun me too...i am walking like a 90 yo!! Went shopping with dp to look at baby clothes (his mum and i went mad on Wed and bought tons) and as a consequence i am in absolute agony! Got stuck in a booth in a cafe cos couldn't twist to get out much to amusement of dp

JollyPurpleGiant Fri 12-Apr-13 20:02:32

Your birth plan can be as extensive or as detailed as you like. Mine fitted on one side of A4, just. I'm a bit of a planner and I felt better having thought through some of the less unusual scenarios and decided what I would like to happen in each of these. It may not be apparent from mine, but the most important thing for me (after getting baby out safely) was to get breastfeeding off to a good start. So a lot of the decisions/plans were geared toward giving us the best possible opportunity for this.

I also read stuff and remember it... possibly too much. So I had read a LOT about options in labour before writing my birth plan.

Locketjuice Sat 13-Apr-13 11:09:12

I didn't have a birth plan at all, didn't go to any classes and didn't really read, lots of people said it was stupid but I said I didn't want pain relief but would if I really needed it and everything else I left to the midwifes to decide regarding baby, as long as he came out healthy I wasn't fussed how smile I think if I had known more I would have been so much more scared when it all went 'tits up' as it was I was petrified but didn't have the knowledge to realise how bad it was so helped me.. smile

chocolatesolveseverything Sat 13-Apr-13 13:23:25


Haven't been on here in a while. Just browsing now and having a little look at peoples' ideas for birth plans - very helpful thanks. I am imagine mine will be quite short as me and DH are quite relaxed about what happens on the day, but it's good to ponder over some of the issues and decisions you've mentioned.

Those on the facebook group may know that I've had adventurous time in the last few days. Early on Thurs morning I awoke with what felt like a pulled muscle underneath my ribs. I was a little nervous about whether paracetemol was appropriate so rang NHS 24. It turns out that their policy for any pregnant woman complaining of chest pain is to assume a possible pulmonary embolism and send for an ambulance! So that's what happened.

The paramedics said I appeared fine but advised me to either go back to hospital with them or see my GP. I chose the latter, but later regretted it as he advised me to get checked out in obstetric triage anyway. To cut a long story short, I was in triage for about 8 hours, saw numerous medical professionals, and got a strong feeling that there were backroom disagreements about the potential risks. One minute I'd be told I was getting out shortly, next I was being asked to wait for further tests, etc. But throughout the whole thing my blood pressure, etc was absolutely fine. A junior doctor did spot a slight murmur from my heart and this concerned the registrar enough that after the 'medic' heart/lung specialist team had apparently refused to see me for about the fourth time (presumably because my obs had remained normal and constant the whole day) he decided to admit me as an inpatient at about 8:30pm in order to 'force' the medic team to come and see me. By this point my initial pain had almost gone away!

So I ended up staying in hospital overnight, being told it was necessary for me to have a heart scan the following day. However, when the (different) consultant came round then he decided there was no immediate rush and I could be referred as an outpatient. So I was sent home that morning. And no, I never did see the medic team after all...

The heart murmur is still a slight concern, but all doctors who heard it thought it was almost certainly a unproblematic 'flow murmur' which doesn't put me or the baby in any danger. Apparently these things are very common during pregnancy. I've just got to wait for the heart scan appointment to come through (and try not to panic every time I feel my heartrate rise whilst walking uphill or climbing stairs in the meantime! grin)

Sorry for the long post - but thought it might be of interest. I never thought that a slightly pulled muscle could lead to an overnight hospital stay! DH has banned me from ever asking for advice on paracetemol ever again smile, but I guess it's good that at least the heart murmur can be checked out now, and did give me an insight as to what being on a maternity ward is like. I certainly couldn't complain that my medical needs were not being taken seriously enough!

Stopsittingonyoursister Sun 14-Apr-13 00:04:50

Wow chocolate that sounds scary! Good to know that they take things seriously, though, just in case.

Have just finished sorting and folding all of DD's 0 - 12m clothes, as I have sold them all on to a friend's family. Have been weeping over some of the little outfits that I remember her wearing really clearly like it was only a couple of months ago, and not 2 - 3 years ago. I cannot believe where the time goes, makes me so sad that you can't slow everything down so you can really appreciate what you have whilst it's right there in front of you.

Woofers Sun 14-Apr-13 13:29:33

Chocolate - glad you got seen as a proper priority and they weren't mucking about. At least, as you say, they can monitor things from now on.

Waves. thanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanks
How bloody shit. I hope you have some rl support, and you are not feeling too rubbish. Have you tried ginger biscuits?! wink

I have a new iPhone 5. Do you have any pregnancy apps? I don't mind paying a few pounds but I want something useful.

muddybloodypuddles Sun 14-Apr-13 14:56:02

Chocolate - glad everything was okay in the end, what a nightmare! But as everyone else has said it's reassuring they took it all so seriously

Woofers - I used a contractions app with DS which was really useful..

DS been poorly since yesterday with really high temp, he's just asked to cone downstairs now at 2.45pm! So has been sleeping most of the day with bouts of the runs and he was sick once. He's had some toast and it hasn't come back up and I can hear dh negotiating with him that he needs to finish his diarolyte (sp?) before he can come down to watch tv - hate seeing my baby I'll :-( - even worse I couldn't pick him up to carry him to the bathroom - good job dh was here

RuckAndRoll Sun 14-Apr-13 17:15:07

muddy I just read that as a contraception app! not much use to us at the momentgrin I must remember to read things properly.

we had an expensive day but now have paint for nursery, cot, changer, Moses basket and stand and changing mat. we now have plenty of stuff, so why do I feel so disorganised?!

muddybloodypuddles Sun 14-Apr-13 20:33:00

Lol ruck - bit late for that now grin

chocolatesolveseverything Sun 14-Apr-13 21:19:46

Know what you mean about not feeling organised enough ruck, but you're probably fine.

Saying that, has anyone noticed on the July thread that one of the ladies has just given birth prematurely? I think she was due less than a week before me so reading it has shaken me up a bit! (Hope the baby's doing OK, poor mite.)

I saw that in the July thread, very scary stuff! I know we are just entering the viability area so the thought is less terrifying week by week, but even still hmm

My hypnobirthing classes are going really well, practicing my breathing is helping me sleep when I wake up in the middle of the night too. DH and I are going to write out birth plans out soon but want to visit the birth centre first to ask some questions.

waves and chocolate hope you're both doing ok!
Hope everyone has a good week.

MrsWajs Mon 15-Apr-13 13:16:45

Aaaaarrgghhh we move house in 4 days and I just can't find the motivation to start packing!! I've emptied my wardrobe and bagged up loads of stuff - mainly because that's an easy job as I can't wear most of it!! I've sorted out some stuff from the bathroom, also easy, next I'm planning to start the living room but my back is killing me now! I'm signed off work til Friday so am supposed to be taking it easy, which was going well over the weekend as DP was here but now I'm sore again!
Never mind scan is THIS WEEK!!!! Yay!! grin

Woofers Mon 15-Apr-13 19:29:34

How's everyone getting on with name choices?
We have an 80% possible but mum and m I L don't like it.

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 15-Apr-13 19:49:00

I can't imagine the stress/sadness of having such an early preemie sad
Hope he pulls through with as little sideeffects/hospital time as possible.

Woofers, why don't they like your name choice?
We have a shortlist but won't be naming it until it's born.

Chocolate, glad everything is 'ok' now, hope the scan appointment comes through asap.

StopSitting, looking at buying DS's winter clothes now (can't see myself having the energy with a 4month old!) and it's depressing enough knowing he'll be wearing 2yr old things, because he's going to be a two year! Waaaah, my baby growing up!

Locketjuice Mon 15-Apr-13 19:55:15

My other halfs cousin had her baby at 24 weeks weighing a tiny 1lb 9oz she is now a gorgeous (still teeny for her age and still only 14lb) 1 year old, she was born a week before my little boy and he looks like a giant next to her but there are happy endings, she talks crawls etc smile

FoofFighter Mon 15-Apr-13 20:32:56

Woofers - we have pretty much got them sorted out (barring the baby looking nothing like the name!) and are not telling anyone precisely for that reason - we don't want anyone putting negative spins on the names we have chosen. it's nothing to do with your M and MIL, they had their chance naming you two!!

CheeseTMouse Mon 15-Apr-13 21:07:06

Hello. Have been lurking for a while and my first post. Due in August with first baby, so thought I'd delurk and see what helpful hints I can pick up... All very exciting and have felt baby kicking in last few days, so feels a lot more real.

Looking forward to sharing the rollercoaster with you all.

muddybloodypuddles Mon 15-Apr-13 21:38:36

Hi cheesetmouseand welcome -it makes it feel more real when you can feel the baby smile

I looked up the thing about the early baby on July thread (I prob shouldn't have?!?) - scary stuff, hope baby is okay

As for names I have a couple of names but also not sharing with family / friends as don't want their 'opinions' on them. Have one that seems like 'the one' but it's got a lot more common over the last couple of years so not sure just based on that so am doing more research to see if any others hit us like that, if not that will be 'the one' (common or not lol). DH and I are trying to stop calling her that name so we can try out some others.

mrswajs-good luck with the move, I keep having the odd days of motivation and energy with days of just wanting to slob out all day -I hope you'll get some energy /motivation days!!

Feeling fat today, haven't seen my dad since 16 weeks and met him for lunch today, his comment was 'I wasn't expecting you to be that big for 20 weeks' - I just replied, 'I'm 24 weeks so probably not that big'... anyway I do feel big and my bump feels quite uncomfortable and 'stretched' most of the day apart from first thing in the morning when it is much smaller and doesn't feel uncomfortable. I don't remember feeling this uncomfortable so much with DS... only 16 weeks to go!!

24 weeks today smile

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Apr-13 22:24:30

welcome cheese I've been reading up on breastfeeding tonight and baby went mad whilst dh and I were talking about it. think it might like its food just like its daddy!

we have a list of baby names stuck to the fridge. 10 of each which we're hoping to have down to 3 of each then.decide once it's here. have to keep remembering to move it when ppl come round as we don't want 'helpful' suggestions.

mrs Eek moving house sounds stressful. hope you have plenty of chocolate on standby

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Apr-13 22:26:01

oh and 23+1

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Apr-13 22:26:01

oh and 23+1

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Apr-13 22:26:02

oh and 23+1

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Apr-13 22:26:03

oh and 23+1

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Apr-13 22:26:04

oh and 23+1

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Apr-13 22:26:04

oh and 23+1

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Apr-13 22:26:06

oh and, 23+1

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Apr-13 22:26:06

oh and, 23+1