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June 2013 - thread 5

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DontmindifIdo Thu 14-Mar-13 13:38:22

new thread! Jump on board!

I'm here!!

Just noticed the July club are in thread 6, I thought we talked a lot!!

curiousgeorgie Thu 14-Mar-13 13:45:19

My antenatal thread when I had DD was only 2 threads long for the whole pg and births! We do talk a lot smile

DontmindifIdo Thu 14-Mar-13 13:46:53

Ha - the July lot are obviously chatty!

Blinky re your work issues, if you can put your annual leave on the start, do that. I'm finding it hard at work now - I've got 6 weeks to go, but only work 3 days a week. I've got Easter in that so one of those weeks is only 2 days, and I have 2 other holiday days left to take - think I'll make another couple of weeks 2 day weeks as well.

I'm also feeling quite low and depressed. Feeling really frumpy, not on top of things at all at home. I have a history of depression so trying to make sure I keep an eye on myself. My view is to be as kind to yourself as you can be. If you can't take your annual leave to start your mat leave early, can you split it up so you're only working part time between now and going off?

Oh, and I know 2 woman who started mat leave at 29 weeks, but then both of them had no intention of going back so weren't worried about using up time before the baby came leaving them with little at the end.

DontmindifIdo Thu 14-Mar-13 13:48:23

curiousGeorgie - saw your PIL trauma thread - really, stand your ground on that one, I think options of "pay for accomodation" (perhaps with you and DH offering to go halves) or "delay the work until July/August when SIL & BIL will have a spare room again" are the best options.

curiousgeorgie Thu 14-Mar-13 13:54:14

It's not terrific Thursday after all wink

There is going to be The Biggest Row Ever when DH gets in!


forgetmenots Thu 14-Mar-13 13:57:53

Give us an extra month and we will be on a new thread too no doubt ;) some of the months were dead quiet though, must be a baby boom!

DontmindifIdo Thu 14-Mar-13 14:00:51

curious - I'm looking forward to the update - have you thought of big salty tears about how he doesn't care about you and bump? That he'd rather <sob> put his parents saving some money <sob> over if you can <sob> establish breast feeding his new baby <sob> and <sob> surely your DC's health is more important than their bank balance <completely break down in floods of tears>

I don't cry much, I hold it back for really big issues as normally DH will agree to anything to make me stop - it's worth getting the nuclear options out for this one...

DontmindifIdo Thu 14-Mar-13 14:01:48

oh yes, just you wait until mat leave starts! We'll never shut up!

DontmindifIdo Thu 14-Mar-13 14:02:46

BTW - has anyone seen some none bankrupting gender nutural black out curtains anywhere?

Marking place now I'm back from the hospital - 2 1/2 hours for 28 week blood tests and an anti-d injection shock

learnermummy Thu 14-Mar-13 15:07:37

Marking my place too.
Feel like I might be getting cystitis today. Never really suffered before, is that something the doctor can sort does anyone know?

suzyrut Thu 14-Mar-13 15:08:40

Must be the day for hospital appointments, had my 28 week consultant appoitment today too and it looks like I will be having a May rather than June baby as blood pressure has gone up with some PE symptoms. Will see the consultant every week from now which is a real faff as it's at the hospital. He said he's hoping to induce at 37 weeks (mid may) but could be before if the blood pressure tablets I'll be starting on in a couple of weeks don't work or I get more symptoms. Just considring my mat leave options as he said he would sign me off when I start tablets so can save my mat leave but feel a bit like it's cheating as I know about it already!

Oh and joy of joys my hospital are now expecting us to reuse our sample bottles by steralising then refilling for the next appointment! Cost saving or eco-friendly I don't know but I have a bottle of "sample" in my handbag (they're not allowed to empty them down the sink for you) which I really must go sort out!

collector I've got SPD (goodness am sounding like a real whinger!) and have been seeing an Osteopath who speciaises in ante and post natal and has helped massively with it, not cheap but worth every penny.

Hope everyone's Thursday's get better soon, will read your thread curious xx

Sunbeam18 Thu 14-Mar-13 15:12:21

Cystitis is a pest, learner. Get an appointment with your GP now to get treatment. I've not had it during pregnancy but have had it lots in 'normal' life. Antibiotics usually best to stop it in it's tracks, not sure what happens during pregnancy re solution though. Meantime, drink cranberry juice. X

AmIGoingMad Thu 14-Mar-13 15:19:41

Sounds like we really are heading into third trimester with a bang! Sorry to hear people are having such crappy times, physically and mentally. I'm not too bad physically at the moment but mentally I'm struggling too. I'm just so tired and have so much to do for work its really getting on top of me. I'd been feeling much better since jan but I'm bk in the I'm a rubbish wife/housekeeper/teacher/everything phase. I'm desperate for a time machine already- how on earth will I manage this with two dc?!

Sorry- panicked rant over!
In more positive news, DS is speaking loads now which is brilliant, baby is moving loads, my mum is babysitting for me to spend an hour or so out with DH tonight and I just won the changebag I was after on eBay. So life isn't that bad I suppose, just totally overwhelming!

ella0 Thu 14-Mar-13 15:25:46

I haven't posted for a while as I haven't had much to say. I've just had my 28 week appointment (and blood tests) too and everything is fine. I can't believe how fast time is flying. Luckily we've bought everything we need, we just need to get the nursery decorated now.

redwellybluewelly Thu 14-Mar-13 15:27:11

Oh yes the third trimester does seem to have hit hard!

Guntie Thu 14-Mar-13 15:28:20

Hi Ladies... Hoping to join this thread if I may. Currently 26 weeks and looking for some company!

Learnermummy I would get to the doctors ASAP. Sounds like it could be a UTI and you need antibiotics asap to get it sorted. I get them all the time... Good Luck!

AlohaMama Thu 14-Mar-13 15:35:46

Just marking place as I catch up over breakfast.
Suzy grin at reusing sample bottles. Visions of lots of ladies going round with forgotten pots of pee in their handbags...

Sorry to hear everyone is feeling so down and all the work struggles. I'm a bit exhaustedthis week, but just cos busy at work and have to work 5 d instead of the usual 4. Tbh finding it hard to engage in work atm as the chance of us moving back to England and therefore leaving my job after baby's born is looking increasingly likely. Sadly I can't totally check out as we've got a really busy period just before due date and I'm the only one who knows my job area.

Oh well, weekend is nearly here smile

AlohaMama Thu 14-Mar-13 15:37:00

X posted - welcome guntie!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 14-Mar-13 15:58:46

Marking place! Zer

Actually I was going to say earlier - there was a lady at the MAU this morning who had been urgently referred by her health visitor, she thought she might be about 7 months pregnant but wasn't sure, and had had no antenatal care at all until today shockshockshock

The 1st MW couldn't understand why she'd turned up with no green notes, and must have asked for them about a million times grin but the 2nd seemed more on the ball and was busy getting her urgent referrals for blood tests, scans etc sorted! It did make me wonder why you would wait so long to access any care though - she had older children so I wonder whether it was a deliberate choice or not.

Sarah2506 Thu 14-Mar-13 17:32:26

Binky you are obviously a Civil Servant too - which Dept? I've had some difficulties with work too. I'm at DWP, though am actually moving tomorrow. I have an excellent relationship with my immediate LM and issues with my G5. I manage this in my head by thinking that I could leave tomorrow, but I'm not going to! I think that sometimes you need to separate out the being pregnant from the how you feel. If you felt as you do now but weren't pregnant then what would you do? If it was take some time sick then why not do that now? Our T&Cs are such that we are only compelled to take mat leave if sick within 4 weeks of expected date. Ahead of that its sick leave, and it doesn't go on your permanant record. So why not do that? If your role is such that the world will end if you aren't there then there will HAVE to be a Plan B to cover you.

I make this point as once you have started mat leave you can't go back. So if you are suddenly feeling a whole lot more positive after 2 weeks then you might then think it was a waste to start mat leave ahead of time.

I think the decision about when to leave is entirely personal, based a lot on money though! A friend did have a very rich husband and left at 30 weeks. She really regretted it. She said she hadn't distinguished between needing a recharge and needing to start maternity leave, and used it to escape a work situation she didn't want to be in. She had her baby early at 37 weeks and said it was such a relief, otherwise she could have spent 3 months bored out of her mind. She reckons 3 weeks is ideal.

I reckon the July thread is busy as they spend a lot of time trying to work out which of them is the Duchess of Cambridge. Bet she isn't thinking about money / who will decorate the nursery / when to finish work / whether DH deserves a blow job / hand job / shag:-)

SunnyL Thu 14-Mar-13 17:44:40

I'd echo Sarah. I've had the week off this week to do the garden up. As it snowed heavily at the weekend I've ended up doing very little. Work is manic at the moment and I was beginning to spend most of my time making lists of how on earth I was going to fit all this work in the time remaining. I ended up going in to work this afternoon as last week I was so stressed I didn't think I could justify taking the whole week off. However going in this afternoon I managed to breeze through a task tht I thought would take me hours and hours. I truly think this is because I've had a break and a chance to de-stres. I'm planning on going on until 37 weeks but I've got another week booked off in April so really I'm only working 3 weeks at a time.

pinkbear82 Thu 14-Mar-13 17:47:44

Ok so if today isn't terrific Thursday so we make next week our goal or look at a fantastic Friday for tomorrow?!

I'm more bubbly today. But think that maybe because I spent the day with my best friend and we agreed that we weren't to talk about DP and what might or might not happen. (Just that he's a pain in the arse and a knob wink) and I think it's just what I needed - altho knackered now!

I have no idea why but I'm having a really odd liking of giraffe things and this baby! Went into next today and say the cutest sleep suit things with giraffe print on and mini giraffes and a giraffe print hat..... As long as I'm not having a giraffe I suppose it's ok!!

Sending big hugs to everyone that needs them today x

pinkapples Thu 14-Mar-13 18:50:58

Marking my place and popped in to say really sorry some of you are feeling crap happy Friday tomorrow grin

arlandria666 Thu 14-Mar-13 19:12:47

28 weeks already eeeeek!
i had my GTT test yesterday not heard anything today they told me no news is good news and i would hear today if any problems so fingers crossed everything is fine?
Finally heard our baby's heartbeat today! my doctors don't listen til 28 weeks yet 2 miles from me they listen from 16 weeks!
invested in a dreamgenii pillow earlier in the week and have slept so much better since thankfully although still feel like i could sleep for a week!
can't believe we're in / entering third trimester already exciting times xxxx

Sunbeam18 Thu 14-Mar-13 19:14:59

I have a giraffe thing too! Everything I have bought has a giraffe theme!!!

pinkbear82 Thu 14-Mar-13 19:31:51

Yey sunbeam glad its not just me!! If u haven't already have a look in next they had lots of lovely things. Lots for little girls - I don't know what I'm having so was limited.
Got home and DP rolled his eyes and said I was getting a bit obsessed!!

massagegirl Thu 14-Mar-13 19:42:10

Suzy we're at the same hospital I think... I got a load of hassle as I'd forgotten my sample pot! They also think I might develop pre eclampsia.
Sorry to those of you struggling. I walked dog today and got v sore hips/pelvis but had lovely massage this afternoon. Can highly recommend pregnancy massage, I am trained therapist but this was my first time as a client. Wish I could afford it weekly!

pinkapples Thu 14-Mar-13 20:05:06

Would love a massage but don't have the time maybe when I go on maternity leave grin

MrsBri Thu 14-Mar-13 20:09:05

I've got quite a few giraffe things too! :-) Our theme seems to be wild animals.

The nursery has had a coat of yellow today. Looks great. Painting needs finishing and wallpaper doing, then I can start nesting in there :-)

I'm not feeling too bad this evening. Still got a twitchy right eye though, so definitely stressed.

Think I'll see how I feel after Easter, the decide if I'm going to leave work any earlier.

Can't believe we are all well into the 20-something weeks' pregnant. Seems quite bonkers!

curiousgeorgie Thu 14-Mar-13 20:47:36

Massagegirl - this might sound a silly question, but how do they do pregnancy massage with the bump smile

When I was pg with DD I bought the most adorable little giraffe all in one coat from mothercare as my first ever purchase... It's totally the wrong size / season for this baby though sad

Curious I had a preg massage a few weeks ago and she had me on my side with pillow between knees and did one side then I rolled over to other side and she did the other side if my back (iykwim). It was amazing, I was on a bed with a couple of duvets under, loads of blankets and pillows. I heard some places have a bed with space for bump cut out

pinkbear82 Thu 14-Mar-13 21:21:46

Loving that it's not just me and giraffe things!!

Slightly random but the skin on my feet has suddenly gone really dry - any one have any wonderful tips? Don't think I can blame bubs for it but thought I'd ask!!

My surgery's the same with sample pots - altho I did get given a shiny new one yesterday - maybe the tears helped wink

massagegirl Thu 14-Mar-13 21:23:28

Yep what little miss said. In a side position supported by pillows. Then turn over to do the other side. That's also how I was trained and had good feedback from pregnant clients. I've heard to tables with bumps cut out put bit of pressure on lower back, but friend just had massage like that and really enjoyed it. I liked being on my side, felt like being in bed but having lovely massage at same time, maybe I can train my OH? I felt totally chilled after... Bliss!

curiousgeorgie Thu 14-Mar-13 21:24:53

Mmm... I want one! I need one grin

curiousgeorgie Thu 14-Mar-13 21:25:36

Pinkbear - I put cocoa butter on everything including my feet smile you could try that?

pinkbear82 Thu 14-Mar-13 21:40:16

Ooo good thinking curious - I'll give that a go!
I fidget so much the rough skin catches on everything and drives me insane.

learnermummy Thu 14-Mar-13 21:48:25

My lovely DH booked me a mum to be treatment for Saturday afternoon, really looking forward to it! Plus have found myself a crochet class for Saturday morning, so Saturday should be ultra relaxing. He'll be tearing his hair out by tea time looking after two DSs an escorting DS1 to a 7th birthday party grin.

AlohaMama Thu 14-Mar-13 22:08:59

Love giraffes. I just got a blanket made for a friend's baby (sadly no sewing machine myself) - v cute giraffe pattern in turkoise, green and yellow with super-soft turkoise minky fabric on the back. So wanted to keep it myself!

pinkbear - I have boots advanced care foot softener, i put it on at night and it soaks in leaving feet lovely and soft.

I could definitely go with a massage. Dropped a none too heavy hint to dh that it would be a perfect mother's day present for me! Mothers day in the US is in May, so maybe if I keep hinting over the next few months he might book one. To be fair dh does give me lovely massages but I feel guilty as I never give them to him, and he hopes it will lead on to something else.... I think guilt-free no-obligations hour long pregnancy massage on the other hand would be great!

pinkbear82 Thu 14-Mar-13 22:18:42

I'll keep that in mind aloha, happy to try anything at the mo. kinda forget about my feet - suddenly realised today I think the nail varnish on my toes has been there since jan shock on one hand I'm impressed its lasted on the other I really should sort it out.

All this talk of massage is making me feel every ache! Would love one too, or would love DP to actually put a bit of effort in when I ask him - 2 seconds later and something on eBay has distracted him and that's it.

Hmmm just remembered its daughters day on sat - I made this up when I was about 4. The Saturday after Mother's Day (because the shops didnt open on a Sunday and that was just rubbish!) is daughters day. I'm now 30 and I still get a card from my mum and a token gift of some sort smile maybe I could suggest she put something towards a massage! Hmmmm lol

AmIGoingMad Thu 14-Mar-13 22:37:59

Haha! I love that pink! Lovely that your mum still goes along with it too!

The pee pot is the same around here too- the Nhs must have a shortage?!

I hope that everyone manages a good nights sleep and that Friday is a good day!smile

Withalittlesparkle Fri 15-Mar-13 01:55:05

Pink I had gold sparkles I'd put on at Christmas on till DH offered to take it off for me last weekend!! Bagged myself a bit of a foot massage at the same time! Amazing!!

Thanks for the heads up on the giraffe outfit from next, my mum is rather obsessed, having to limit what she buys with a giraffe theme but that is super cute!!!

MrsBri Fri 15-Mar-13 07:26:08

That is fantastic, pink! Not sure it'll catch on in my family now...I think I'm too late at 36 to instigate new family traditions :-)

My toenail polish has been on forever. Not sure my feet are overly accessible right now. I will have to get DH to sort them out for me when he cuts them. Though he hates the smell (of the polish, not my feet!) so may decline. Boo!

I feel lucky that I don't have to re-use my pee pots. My surgery just gives me a new one each time I go. Finally a benefit to living here :-)

Very tired today. So glad it's Friday. I want to tackle our garden this weekend. Though I can see being left on the sidelines as DH doesn't seem to think I'm capable of doing it. Sigh. I like gardening.

Found out we paid 40 quid for one pot of paint, some wallpaper paste and some sundry items yesterday. All because we HAD to have trade paint. Never got to use my Dulux samples, thanks to it being banned. The room does look good, but dear god. Oh well, at least it is tax deductible on his tax return!

Happy Friday people :-) Here's hoping it is a good one.

pinkbear82 Fri 15-Mar-13 07:37:36

Morning ladies

Glad I'm not the only one to have toes in need of attention! If I'd wanted the polish to last this long we all know it would have fallen off in the first week!!

Suddenly thought last night maybe this year will have to be my last daughters day as next year I'll officially get Mother's Day..... I may need to think about the rules a bit more wink

Hope today is an ok day for everyone and that having the weekend ahead is something to look forward to.

Sarah2506 Fri 15-Mar-13 08:05:07

Sitting on train to work. One before was cancelled so expected this to be manic. Got on and no fewer than five people leapt to their feet! Amazing! Moving day today, god help me! Have to pack up all my files and personal stuff ready for it to be transported to our new life in Treasury Solicitors which starts on Monday. Kind of exciting but sad- I've worked for this Dept for 11 years! I expect chaos with crates and all manner of trip hazards everywhere. I may sit and let my boss do everything. Seems reasonable hey?!

Hawkmoth Fri 15-Mar-13 10:11:01

Two pages into a new thread already! So quick.

I'm back at work Tuesday, looking forward to it, though have been slightly marked by some of the emails I've received. Time to make sure people know what I do above and beyond my role! I am slightly scared about doing too much, but the mental challenge will be most welcome. I'm not good at being ill.

Will be sorting out baby clothes in the attic later on. Knowing there are so many up there is good, but have seen some lovely outfits and I'm trying to find a reason to buy just one...

Olimoss Fri 15-Mar-13 10:16:59

Morning all - might I recommend, as far as possible, fairly regular visits to a nice nail salon? I have kept it up all through winter and it's brilliant. Nice toes make me happy....

Pee pot situation is rather hysterical across my community and hospital midwives. We get as many containers as we want - in fact they are all over the place in massive boxes, but they are the diameter, at best, of a 10p piece and I am yet to meet anyone who can manage to fill one without making a mess. It's getting bloody difficult now that I can't really see what I'm doing, either....

We had new carpets (well, Sisal) fitted in the bedrooms yesterday so feels like one of the big jobs can now be ticked off the list. Load of furniture for the spare room due to be delivered today, backyard supposed to be sorted this month (making it useable again) and plumber booked in. So. I want to be done with all jobs by mid-April, I reckon.

Olimoss Fri 15-Mar-13 10:43:54

Ermagawd, the furniture delivery actually came early. Hours and hours early. I will not have to spend all day waiting for it.

This will be a great day! Or, it will at least until the boyfriend has to try assembling it all. That'll be less great. For him. Amusing for me....

redwellybluewelly Fri 15-Mar-13 12:51:36

It might be too late to create family traditions but there is an opportunity to create a whole load of new traditions and ditch the ones you don't like. For example at Christmas this last year we told all our family and friends that we would be home for the 4 main days and they were willing to come visit but that we would be staying home, we had a mini tree, we had lunch at a time which suited our toddler, we all had an afternoon nap together bliss and we genuinely had a stress free wonderful holiday.

We also have a loooooooong walk on Easter Sunday and then home to jacket spuds and stew. We have Sunday Roasts once a month, we have Saturday mornings to relax, we take it in turns with lie-ins, we have holidays which suit tiny children and recognise that life has shifted focus.

Re the maternity care we have to reuse our peepot as well. I flatly refuse.

Any other 2nd or 3rd timers having wobbles about how their PFB will adapt to a 'new' sibling? Starting to keep me awake at night! I am so attached to my toddler and she has been an amazing amount of fun the past week or two that I am sad already my 1-2-1 time with her will be reduced. She is also growing up so fast and needs yet more new PJs. How do children go through PJs so fast?!?!?!

redwellybluewelly Fri 15-Mar-13 12:52:10

And Olimoss - trust me - go out for the day when your BF assembles the furniture.

I did. Then I came home and had to fix it as he was so stressed!

SunnyL Fri 15-Mar-13 12:56:45

Just had my 28 week appointment. Always amusing to see them struggling to get blood out of me. Had to resort to a butterfly needle and even then she gave up on the last tube and poured it between them. The midwife let slip there might be another pregnant mum on my street. I knew there was 3 of us in a street of 10. Now we're trying to guess who the fourth is. Clearly something in the water!

MadameJ Fri 15-Mar-13 13:21:09

Redwelly I have being having massive attacks of guilt in regards to DD, she is 2 and my whole world, we spend every minute together and I do worry how she will manage when we have another little person on the scene!!
DD seems excited at the moment but it doesn't stop we worrying.

pinkbear82 Fri 15-Mar-13 13:26:35

Redwelly I love the fact you do things that work best for you an your family - too many try and please everyone else and it just shouldn't be. Good for you!

On the new sibling front, I can share what my friend did for her DD when new bubs was due. After spending 4 years one on one and doing everything together my friend really was worried how her dd would react. So before bubs arrived we had a 'big sister' afternoon. A few treats and games and just made her feel she had a really special role coming up. My friend, once bubs had arrived got her dd to help with appropriate things she could and her and her husband make sure they each have time with each individually. Their DD has adjusted really well - even to her big girl bedroom. And altho there are occasions she picks her little brother up and puts him in a different room because he wants to play with her or is being noisey she also loves him dearly and is now loving to help him walk around.

I'm sure others with more experience will share more helpful tips. The fact your all so close now I'm sure will stand you all in good stead.

redwellybluewelly Fri 15-Mar-13 14:22:45

Thak you pinkbear it was partly driven by my crappy family revoking the invitation to join them for Christmas but it was possibly the least stress and most fun we've all had in a while!

We're getting DD a doll she can meet when she comes to see me in hospital. DD has been in and out of hospital most of her 31 months so is ok but wary of being there. After DD meets DC2 and me than she can go home with daddy and her 'new' baby and hopefully I'll be home the next day. DD does adore babaies but is still a bit funny when I pick up her cousins.

Not achieving much at work today. Want to go shopping and buy DD some new PJs!

pinkbear82 Fri 15-Mar-13 14:49:05

Redwelly sometimes the best things come from the crapiest situations. It's making the best of them that counts. Which is exactly what it sounds like you've done.

Dd's baby sounds like a fab plan - is it one that can be changed and bits like you'll be doing with DC2? She can almost copy mummy then and be occupied.
I did read somewhere about a box of special toys that can be made up and used for when your feeding/busy with new sibling. Big sister is then allowed to get her special box out and play, while your occupied and then they are put away when the task your doing is finished. I guess it's distraction really, just with different toys to normal to keep interest for longer, hopefully!

Hope you get to get some pjs on the way home for Dd. If anything like my DP children we seem to end up with random bottoms and tops! His dd who is 6 came down the last weekend we had them in a 'nightdress' aged 2-3, it covered nothing and I still have no idea where she found it!

Olimoss Fri 15-Mar-13 14:54:49

Red - advice noted! I am actually arguably the handier one but being a bit incapacitated at moment means I need to let him at least attempt it!

learnermummy Fri 15-Mar-13 15:46:39

Oli, there was another thread recently on pee pots and someone commented that they used a cleaned out muller yoghurt pot to 'collect' and then decant into the ridiculously small sample bottle. Think they mentioned cutting a nick in the lip of said yoghurt pot to aid pouring smile. Have remembered I have a shewee somewhere that I bought for camping, but still not sure I could see properly to aim! Would definitely have to be done in the shower! Luckily I am blessed with a fresh pot each time!

pinkbear82 Fri 15-Mar-13 15:54:34

Re wee samples - I have a plastic glass thing with a really wide top - collect and decant. Saves any dribbles on fingers or anything else. It's a bright pink one, different to anything else we use to actually drink from blushand I keep it up on too of the bathroom cabinet with strict instructions that no ones to touch it ever!

Olimoss Fri 15-Mar-13 18:34:44

So many wee-wrangling approaches!

I use a little jug (it came with my iron) to wee into then pour into pot. It has a larger neck and much easier!

DontmindifIdo Fri 15-Mar-13 20:09:05

Oh I was told I could take home my pee pot today and put it in the bin instead. The amount they fucked up me having DS, they can stand me the cost of a fresh pot to piss in each time in this labour...

anyway, Redwelly - I'm getting nervous about DS and the new baby, I wanted DS in his new room back in October, but DH has faffed about so much we didn't get him in it until a few weeks ago. Except MIL this weekend (thanks!) started telling DS that the new baby was having his old room and his old bed, he's lost it 3 times, saying he doesn't want his new room, he wants his old room etc. I'm now not sure how he's going to cope. sad We were going to do the new gift for DS from the new baby idea, DH wants the new baby to get DS a bike.

I've been told that when I first see DS after having the baby in hospital that I shouldn't be holding/feeding the baby when he's brought in so I can give him a hug straight away, that we make the new baby a exciting thing and trying to keep his routine as close as possible to normal. I like the idea of a 'baby' for him.

redwellybluewelly Fri 15-Mar-13 20:19:48

Don'tmind - Jesus your MIL sounds like a right piece of work! Thats bloody evil that is!

We've still got a few months so he might still settle? If this bump is a second DD we'll keep her in the spare room with me until she is sleeping ok ish or max 18months, DD1 will have her room as it is and then we'll replaster, recarpet and totally decorate a room for them to share. DD1 will be about 4-5yrs by then and hopefully they can have bunk beds. If bump is a boy then one will have a small room and one will have a big room until we move!

I'm going into town at the weekend to borrow the 'new baby' books from the library. Nursery have started to prepare DD1 for what might happen but until I get that bloody ELCS date then we can't prepare her for what will happen on the day. I think she'll love a new 'baby' doll but so much of me wants to be the one to see her bring it home and show it the house. I also want to apologise to her current doll (very small) and her doll's baby (yes really) for there being a 'new doll' - they I burst into tears at the thought of DD1 feeling the same way!

Bloody hormones hmm

Jeez dontmind, your MIL isn't exactly tactful there, is she?! Hope your DS settles asap. Have you thought about your DS buying a little toy for the new baby? We did this with DD when DS was born, DH took her to buy him something (a rattle, it turned out) then when we showed her pics of him in NICU we made sure the rattle was in the pics. It seemed to really help. Obv you could just make sure the toy is in the cot with him when he visits!

I had a growth scan today, and as a result we are officially team BLUE! Now just got to think of some names - any traditional type names any of you want to offer? Am really struggling, and slightly gutted that I won't get to use my girl's name which would have been Meredith.

AmIGoingMad Fri 15-Mar-13 20:43:18

Redwelly I'm worried about DS too. By the time this little one arrives he'll be 2.5 and he's the first grandchild, nephew etc on both sides of the family so has had everyone's undivided attention since day one. One of my friends said though that she worried so much about how dc1 would feel that she now worries that dc2 didn't get all the attention she deserved in the first few months. I think that the present from new baby idea is a good one, as is the plan not to be holding dc2 when dc1 arrives in hospital for first meeting. Need to look for some good books on subject for DS too.

I can't quite believe it but I'm in bed now- am shattered so I'm off to sleep while DH and DS are still downstairs watching comic relief on a Friday evening. Also needed to lay down as all of a sudden putting weight on my left leg is causing massive discomfort in pelvis area. I'm hoping its just bubs laying in awkward position and that she'll move during the night- fingers crossed hey!

DontmindifIdo Fri 15-Mar-13 21:06:55

ah, in her defence, I don't think MIL had thought at all about it! There's 5.5 years between DH and BIL so DH had been out of the nursery and in his 'big boy room' for a while, not out of it and then it be given to a new sibling. I was annoyed but hopefully DS will settle again, but we had it tonight, he doesn't want to get grown up, he doesn't want to be a big boy, he doesn't want to get tall like daddy, he wants his old bed back. I told him that the baby wasn't going to have his old bed, the baby will have a cot that just happens to look like his old bed with the sides back on and the mattress raised back up hopefully as hte baby will be in the moses basket in our room to start with he'll have got used to the baby being here before the baby goes in the room...

I think getting DH to go take DS to get the baby a toy is a great idea! Thank you RueDe ! Great you now know what you're getting. Meredith is a gorgeous name - you'll just have to have another one... wink

AlohaMama Fri 15-Mar-13 23:49:08

Liking these ideas for older sibs. DS will be 2y2m when dd arrives. We have got him a doll and will get him gift from dd, hadn't thought about the other way round. I am hopeful he'll adapt as he's been in childcare since 3 mo at two places but each time it has been a mum looking after him along with her own kid, so he's had two week-time siblings. This time he'll be the older one though and obviously different as it's sharing his mummy not someone elses! Have decided not to stress about the bedroom, as likely as not we'll be moving to England, moving in with my parents when dd is 6 wks old, so that upheaval is going to be way beyond any changes in sleeping arrangements!!

Sunbeam18 Sat 16-Mar-13 09:04:04

I really feel for you all with other kids to settle in with the new baby - I'm worried enough about how my cat will react to not being mummy's baby anymore! Can't imagine how hard it must be with a child!
I seem to find Friday nights hardest at the moment - had no energy left at all last night after a week's work - sat crying in the bath at 9pm and barely had the energy to get out! A new day today!

Has anyone tried antenatal pilates, by the way? I've signed up for a class starting next week in the hope it helps with the pelvic discomfort.

MrsBri Sat 16-Mar-13 09:40:28

How do you feel today, Sunbeam? I'm always asleep on the sofa by about 9.30pm on a Friday, it has to be said.

Nobody warned me about all this crying...I feel very unstable. Seeing HR on Tuesday and need to try to hold it together.

Think I am going to try to leave on my planned date. Really don't want the utter bitches on my team to force me out with their laziness and attitude. Ultimately, me going is their loss and they will soon miss me due to how much work I do. And if they continue to ignore my attempts to train them, well, even funnier really, as they will just look extra shit once I've gone!

But if I go early, they will blame that, rather than looking like they've not been arsed to learn. And I want them to be exposed for the useless idiots they really are! Small things.

Sunbeam18 Sat 16-Mar-13 10:13:58

Feeling better today, thanks MrsBri! Still in bed with Red magazine and tea!
Did you get a reply to your email to HR, or is everything going to be addressed in the meeting next week?

MrsBri Sat 16-Mar-13 10:24:59

Good, glad you've perked up a bit :-)

Everything will be addressed in the meeting. And the HR manager is introducing me to the new HR lady too, which will be interesting. The firm has really improved in the last few months. If I'd been pregnant much before this I'd have just left, but the new regime is very supportive and approachable, thankfully.

But we shall see what the result of the meeting is and go from there.

curiousgeorgie Sat 16-Mar-13 16:20:43

Congrats Rue! If this baby had been a boy we were torn between Jasper, Harry, James and Sebastian if any of those help you smile

I'm a bit worried about DD with this new little sister.. She was obsessed with my nephew when he was born but now says 'that's my mummy!' and goes all hands on hips and madam-y when I hold him (it's actually very cute but I'm not sure I'm allowed to think that am I? Haha ;))

I've had a baby shopping morning! Bought so many lovely little clothes that we don't need from mamas and papas and next, some pink blankets, a bouncy chair and looked at furniture sets for the baby's room... I'm all happy, baby shopping is the best grin

Glad everyone seems better today!

AmIGoingMad Sat 16-Mar-13 16:25:39

Glad that you have a meeting to try to get things sorted out Mrsbri. It's rubbish that the others in your team are being so awful but sounds like revenge will be yours soon!

Sunbeam- glad you're feeling a bit better today! Friday evenings are always tough after a week in work. I was the same, on the verge of tears I was so tired from about 5pm! Gave in about 8.30 and went to bed.

On plus side- DS slept in his own room on his own last night for the first night in months! Neither if us ended up having to go on the futon thank goodness. It did take many renditions of the Thomas the Tank theme tune a various points in the night but at least from my own bed!

CollectorofCookbooks Sat 16-Mar-13 17:15:42

Suzy, just check on the sick leave / mat leave situation - now I'm signed off they will start my mat leave at 11 weeks before my due date - not what I wanted at all - but I am feeling so much better due to ring able to rest lots! And am having physio twice a week which is really helping. And doin Pilates which I'm really enjoying.

Feeling a lot better today for wearing a nice bright top which is not maternity from one of my favourite shops - ok, so it's the largest top I've ever bought but it feels so nice to be 'me' again.

Anyone else enjoying just sitting watching their tummy move and undulate?!

Onto the final bits of sorting the nursery out tomorrow, then DH can pack my bag (so he knows where everything is!) an then we're ready! 28 week scan on Monday and I can't wait. Fingers crossed they'll hang in there til May...the hospitals' aim was to get me to 30 weeks, I'm so nearly there.

DontmindifIdo Sat 16-Mar-13 17:29:01

Collector - yep, mine is doing that right now, I've got a great big wobble going on!

I'm feeling rather on my knees today - DS decided our day should start before 5am today, then we went swimming. I'm just not doing well. That said, after having a few days of food refusing he's eaten really well today so can't complain too much. Just hope he's down early...

As for boys names for RueDe - I love the suggestion of Jasper! Go for it! We know a Jasper so it's not really on our name list.

MrsBri Sat 16-Mar-13 17:38:08

Collector, I didn't think they could enforce mat leave until 36 weeks. What's in your maternity policy at work?

My belly doesn't seem to move that much, I don't think. I don't often watch though. I did get a series of monster kicks earlier which I could see through a few layers. Most amusing!

Got my maternity exemption card today...time to stock up on prescriptions and dental work! :-)

Sarah2506 Sat 16-Mar-13 17:39:44

This child is going ballistic to the rugby. Admittedly we are in a busy loud pub. Not sure if she's enjoying it or is really scared!

Hawkmoth Sat 16-Mar-13 18:46:29

I was off sick for my first two and they just couldn't enforce the start of mat leave that early, it was 37 weeks both times, no questions asked.

I'm starting to fret now. Went out for a couple of hours this afternoon, came back and straight to sleep, then woke feeling like I'd been away for weeks! How on earth will I manage at work? Had a cry about being useless and not contributing to the family. Going to do my best though, will do me good to be back at work. DH doesn't work as such so I can't go off early or go part time, though I probably have enough leave to squeeze out a couple of four day weeks. It was so straightforward with the first two, my pelvis gave out and I had no choice, exhaustion's not a good enough reason somehow, in my own mind anyway!

pinkbear82 Sat 16-Mar-13 19:15:29

I've been told I'll be put on to mat leave at 29 weeks as well because of being on SSP and off with a pregnancy related illness. There's another thread saying this can't be done but it does seem to be the case

MrsBri Sat 16-Mar-13 20:03:01

You really CANNOT be put onto maternity leave at 29 weeks unless it is your choice.

Go to www.maternityaction.org.uk and look it up. If your employer insists they can, call ACAS and ask for advice how to deal with it.

Don't let your employer screw you over.

DontmindifIdo Sat 16-Mar-13 21:40:55

I thought you can be forced to start your maternity leave from 29 weeks onwards if you are off sick for pregnancy related illness, but that could have changed, worth looking it up, I think a lot of the laws around maternity leave changed after i went off having DS (so in the last 3 years)

MrsBri Sat 16-Mar-13 21:49:00

No, it is now 36 weeks they can force a start. They're relying on out of date legislation for 29 weeks. And probably breaking the law in doing so too.

learnermummy Sat 16-Mar-13 22:13:47

Evening everyone.
Agree with others on introducing baby to siblings. We bought a present from the baby for DS1 and DS1 chose the baby a small toy. Also I purposefully left DS2 in Moses basket when DS1 arrived home so that he could have a look on his own terms and gave him lots of attention. He did regress on the potty training front for a week or two but was soon back to normal. No need to worry this time as they'll be 4 and 7 and just excited!
I've enjoyed a lovely mum to be treatment this afternoon, very relaxing, just hope I didn't snore!! Had a bit of a scare last night though - prob overdid it with Chinese takeaway and on going to bed had awful stabbing pains across top of bump. So painful it made me cry out, and they kept coming and going. Was panicking a bit about what to do especially as had no one to look after the boys. Luckily it subsided and I got to sleep, so prob just awful indigestion. Has made me realise I need to find someone in the playground that won't mind a middle of the night phone call though - on the to do list for this week!

Sarah2506 Sat 16-Mar-13 22:22:42

Bri is bang on. I worked on that legislation! 29 weeks is the earliest you can choose to take it. If sick it's SSP until 36 weeks, then force start to SMP at that point. Man, employers take the piss sometimes....

AmIGoingMad Sat 16-Mar-13 22:36:08

Aw hawk you poor thing- the exhaustion is definitely not a great side effect is it! Hope you manage a good nights sleep tonight.

I also hope your DS let's you wake later tomrw don't mind!

Sarah I'm impressed- I'm a massive rugby fan but there's no way I'd have coped in a pub today- DS had a nap and I watched from the comfort of my sofa instead!

CollectorofCookbooks Sun 17-Mar-13 06:38:33

OMG, seriously?! Thank you SO MUCH. That could save me so much money!

I will check that out, and challenge. They said they would revise my mat leave dates and be back in touch. I will dig out the policy and have a good read of it today.

A big (non-MN of course) hug xx

PS Learner, we had curry last night - right there with you with the stabbing pains! Was worried too.

pinkbear82 Sun 17-Mar-13 07:42:37

Ah thank u ladies, I too will challenge this now (and tell my mum she was right).

Bubs has been a bit quiet since fri night. I had a panic attack fri eve and now worry the stress is affecting bubs. Think if once I'm up properly I might phone the midwife and see what they think. DP is in court tomorrow so lots could be about to change and I don't know if I'm just focusing on bubs more and being a worry bean.

Hope everyone had a good nights rest x

AmIGoingMad Sun 17-Mar-13 08:08:27

Pinkbear so sorry that you're having such a tough time. It must be so hard. I'd ring the midwife just to get everything checked out if I were you. I'm sure it'll be fine but it would be good for them to tell you that for certain so that you have one less worry in your mind at what is a tough time.
Will you know tomorrow what the outcome is with dp? I hope all goes well for you.

Try to have a relaxing day together today- easier said than done I know.

MrsBri Sun 17-Mar-13 08:15:02

Poor you, pinkbear. Definitely ring the midwife about it for reassurance. And it is no wonder you're stressed. I hope your DP gets a good outcome tomorrow. <hugs>

Collector, if the policy says 29 weeks they can't rely on it. I know my company used to do the same, but it is now 36 (though as we only get SSP, SMP is better financially). Go to that Maternity Action website and look for a pdf (can't link to a pdf on here) which details your rights. Print it off, or email the link to the relevant person.

If they insist, advise you will take legal advice.

pinkbear82 Sun 17-Mar-13 08:24:30

Thank you ladies.

It's a bit unknown about the outcome tomorrow, DP solicitors have told him to prepare for being sentenced/having the outcome but that if any of the others change their plea this could hold things up. It's all happening in London too, and we're in the south west. After much deliberation I've decided I'm better off staying at home, DP dad is going with him and I just don't think I'd be in a good state coming home without DP. And being in the car for 20 mins is hassle enough let alone hours.

Ho hum, what will be will be. Hope for the best prepare for the worst.

Pink sending lots of positive thought..
Bubs is quieter here too but he's moved position and bump looks completely different now.
Has anyone booked or thought of hypnobirthing?

MrsBri Sun 17-Mar-13 09:02:54

Littlemiss, somebody has sent me a book and dvd on hypnobirthing which I will look at when I start maternity leave. It is really meant to help.

My friend, who's a midwife, has said it's best to relax into the pain as getting tense can prolong labour. Wondering if that's easier said than done though.

Pinkbear, surely it'd be madness to change plea? I hope it is done in one day so whatever happens isn't prolonged. And I think you're right to stay at home.

pinkbear82 Sun 17-Mar-13 09:17:06

Mrsbri you are right it would be madness - but so far nothing has been quite straight forward. Just got to keep fingers crossed. And as hard as it will be being at home I think it's for the best too. My mum and dad are coming to stay so I have some company/distraction.

In the mean time I have a crazy springer climbing the wall because he thinks he can see/smell something. There is nothing. But he's convinced otherwise.

Mawgatron Sun 17-Mar-13 09:39:42

Ooooooh! She wee! I hadn't thought of that genius idea, I bought one last year for going to a festival for my hen do. Blatantly going to use that for wee samples from now on.

Luckily this is my first, so no stressing about other children coping with new arrival, although my two feline children may take a little while to get used to their new baby brother.

Think I am developing SPD sad. Do you have to go to your midwife to be referred or could I make an appointment with my gp? My midwife is only in on Mondays and Fridays, I'm too late for an appointment for tomorrow but I feel like if I am going to try and see someone I need to do it sooner rather than later. I'm sure DH just thinks I am being lazy , but I'm in agony when I roll over at night, and I went to a gig on Friday (space - do you remember them from the 90s? The female of the species/neighbourhood etc? Was bloody brilliant!), and I was on my feet/ dancing all night and I think I aggravated it. I hate it, as all I want to do is be lying down!

Feeling slightly better about work now, managed to get a few things done off my enormous list, so am trying to be a bit more positive. 7 working weeks to go with a two week break in a fortnight...

Mawgatron Sun 17-Mar-13 09:47:25

Oh and keeping fingers crossed of you pink, hope the day swings in your favour. Xxx

DontmindifIdo Sun 17-Mar-13 11:22:21

oh I hope it's all ok Pink.

pinkbear82 Sun 17-Mar-13 12:12:36

You really are a wonderful bunch of lovely ladies smile thank you all.

I called the midwifes and was told to lay on my left side for a couple o hours and have cold drinks. I wouldn't say bubs is kicking for England but I've felt some little wiggles now and I hope that's relaxed me enough to feel it all more normally now.

Thank you all once again x

MrsBri Sun 17-Mar-13 12:24:11

That's good, pinkbear...it's always worrying when baby decides that they're going to have a lazy day! I'm glad there's now some wriggles to reassure you. :-)

Baby B actually responds to me lying on my back more than on the left, as I don't think he's keen. I did that this morning and regretted it about 5 minutes later when he went mental.

At what point do they realise they don't have room to keep rotating? :-/

forgetmenots Sun 17-Mar-13 13:41:55

Oh pinkbear, everything crossed for you and I'm sure baby was just having a wee rest for a bit. X

AlohaMama Sun 17-Mar-13 16:20:29

Good luck with everything tomorrow pinkbear <hugs>. Glad you're able to feel some wiggles.

Maw you are a braver/more energetic woman than me! We had friends over last night for dinner and I still had to insist on taking up my usual post-dinner horizontal sofa position for much of the evening!

redwellybluewelly Sun 17-Mar-13 17:01:15

Pinkbear I hope you have good news tomorrow

I'm working till 37 weeks now, have brought it forward by a week as I just don't have the energy which I had first time round. Plus the MW was getting all red faced and grumpy. That means I have 9 weeks left. Into single figures now - all getting a tad 'real'.

Toddler slept in her cot ALL night last night - was my night 'on duty' and I was wiped out so I was exceedingly thankful. Might have gone shopping today and browsed the baby clothes section, DD was very happy to help by pointing out the clothes 'she' liked!

MrsBri Sun 17-Mar-13 17:06:47

I'm so impressed with you working that long, redwelly...I couldn't imagine lasting that long! 8 weeks left for me, and that feels like too many. Still not sure it feels real yet though!

Olimoss Sun 17-Mar-13 17:28:03

Gosh busy weekend here, glad for the good news about and Pink, hope tomorrow goes as well as you can hope....

News in is that the boyfriend and I spent 4hrs constructing flatpack furniture yesterday with nary a harsh word nor argument. Bit anticlimactic! is good progress, both the baby's room and the spare room cleared of anything that doesn't need to be in there. Good stuff.

Anyone else feeling like their bump is growth-spurting? I feel utterly enormous, somewhat frightened to imagine what full term will feel like.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 17-Mar-13 18:03:06

Ladies any advice on suitable funeral attire?!

DontmindifIdo Sun 17-Mar-13 18:10:23

Funeral attire, oh no, I assume that means you're having a hard time now. What's your budget? this from topshop might be good, £29, sleeves, decent length - put with black flats and some discreet jewellery should be fine.

However, if you are short like me, that might fall at a difficult length, something like [[http://www.topshop.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?beginIndex=1&viewAllFlag=&catalogId=33057&storeId=12556&productId=6133818&langId=-1&sort_field=Newness&categoryId=208537&parent_categoryId=203984&pageSize=20&refinements=category~[209827|208537]&noOfRefinements=1 this] might be better, it's sold as a tunic, but if you are shorter then it'll land at knee length, put with black maternity tights and it'll be good.

Unless you are going to a high church funeral then grey or dark navy would also be ok if you already have something in your maternity wear.

DontmindifIdo Sun 17-Mar-13 18:10:49
Withalittlesparkle Sun 17-Mar-13 18:33:11

Thanks Dont, yes having a bit of a rubbish time! My Nan passed away early hours of this morning sad we were very close and I'm rather devastated but I feel like I need to start 'planning'

DontmindifIdo Sun 17-Mar-13 18:51:52

So sorry to hear that. Will you have to travel to the funeral?

MrsBri Sun 17-Mar-13 19:27:09

So sorry, Sparkle. I hope you've got family around for support. xx

pinkbear82 Sun 17-Mar-13 19:37:36

Sending lots of hugs sparkle. x

learnermummy Sun 17-Mar-13 20:23:01

Sorry for your loss sparkle.
Sending positive thoughts for tomorrow pinkbear.
I can recommend hypnobirthing - we did a course last time and think it did really help. Only downside is that you have to practise the breathing techniques and listen to the CDs a lot. Haven't managed to fit it in yet.
I hope take aways aren't off the menu for good Collector! But wouldn't want to repeat Friday nights experience.

MadameJ Sun 17-Mar-13 21:00:07

Hello ladies, very strange today but baby appears to be "divebombing" onto my cervix, it's such a strange feeling and at one point it felt as if baby was trying to escape hmm

MrsBri Sun 17-Mar-13 21:07:54

I get kicked in what feels like my lady bits all the time, Madame...bizarre, isn't it?!

MadameJ Sun 17-Mar-13 21:19:48

Really strange MrsBri, never experienced this with my first and Im not overly sure I like it hmm

MrsBri Sun 17-Mar-13 21:22:47

I have to admit to finding it more disconcerting than endearing! Feels quite wrong. :-/

redwellybluewelly Sun 17-Mar-13 21:46:55

Sorry for your loss sparkle

Cervix tickling and kicking is a common occurrence here. Most disconcerting.

MadameJ Sun 17-Mar-13 21:56:25

Glad im not the only one!!

maisiebeem Mon 18-Mar-13 07:00:01

I am so looking forward to not having this Monday morning feeling soon. I'm going to start doing 4 day weeks, so hopefullythat feeling won't be transferred to a Tuesday!
pink hope today swings the right way for you! And sparkle sorry for your loss.
Just wondering where would you ladies recommend getting a mattress for a stokke sleepi from?
Happy Monday people!

AmIGoingMad Mon 18-Mar-13 07:03:56

Haven't had much chance to read since posting yesterday morning but just wanted to say, so sorry for your loss sparkle x

And good luck today Pinkbear. I hope it all goes as well as it can and will be thinking of you x

MrsBri Mon 18-Mar-13 07:07:33

Best of luck today, pinkbear.

We spent yesterday evening watching my belly move, seemingly of its own accord. It's fascinating seeing the kicks as well as feeling them. :-)

DH and baby are bonding nicely too, in that if DH pushes baby's foot gently, baby will push back against him. Sweet!

Have to say that having baby shove his head into my side as hard as possible was a tad uncomfortable though!

Overall I'm quite enjoying it at the moment. I feel a bit better about work today as I gave myself the whole weekend off. And they can go jump if they even consider complaining!

curiousgeorgie Mon 18-Mar-13 09:16:51

Good luck Pinkbear, keep us posted!

And so sorry for your loss sparkle sad

Has anyone heard of CMV? Ive just heard this morning that BIL, SIL and DN all have it and I've been with them quite a bit, as recently as yesterday... Is it something I should worry about? confused

Sunbeam18 Mon 18-Mar-13 09:57:38

Curious, I'd phone the midwife about CMV. I hadn't heard of it but just googled it and it sounds like a herpes-type virus which isn't good if contracted for the first time during pregnancy. I'd keep away from those who have it now they have been diagnosed.

Good luck today, pink. Hope things go ok - thinking of you.

curiousgeorgie Mon 18-Mar-13 10:10:34

I called the midwife and have to go in and have bloods taken... Very annoying!

pinkbear82 Mon 18-Mar-13 10:11:36

Thank u everyone. Heads a bit all over the place!
Slept better than I thought I would - might have been the fact I could take up the whole bed to get comfy.... Best not tell DP that! wink

Hope everyone's Mondays go ok. It's the start of being a week closer to meeting our LOs.

Will be back later with an update once I've heard anything. And thank u all, might sound silly but it's kinda nice knowing I have even more support.

suzyrut Mon 18-Mar-13 11:33:24

Good luck today pinkbear I have everything crossed for you and DP xx

redwellybluewelly Mon 18-Mar-13 12:12:23

thinking of you pinkbear flowers

forgetmenots Mon 18-Mar-13 14:43:10

Good luck pinkbear - thinking of you thanks

pinkbear82 Mon 18-Mar-13 15:06:18

Well, good news of sorts. Today is done, DP has to go back at the end of April for sentencing. Have yet to talk to him properly to find out all the details. 3 were late this morning which meant a 3 hour delay for them, which must have been agony.
So not all done and dusted, but gives us a bit longer to hopefully feel a bit more prepared.

Thank you all once again for being so lovely.

Tell you what, the house hasn't been so clean since we moved in in November! Even the dog has been bathed and his bedding washed - only the cats have escaped a good cleaning.

Thank u again. x

pinkapples Mon 18-Mar-13 16:40:12

Pinkbear glad that today kind of went your way :-)

Sorry for your loss sad

I am feeling absolutely knackered tonight needed a brew all day but not managed to make it yet work is absolutely manic!

CollectorofCookbooks Mon 18-Mar-13 17:36:39

Sorry for your loss Sparkle. And pleased that you're feeling a bit happier Pinkbear, hopefully it'll be good news in April.

28 week scan showed all well, both babies are identical in measurement and weight - 1.1kg each! All on now to hit the magic 32 week mark. Am a bit crampy today but that could well be indigestion and my SPD seems to be getting worse, but as long as they're ok that's the main thing.

And with a roll of drums I can announce that HR have apologised!! I sent an email last night querying the policy and they have agreed yes, I (ie YOU) are right and I shouldn't be put on maternity pay til 36 weeks.

So a big big thank you xx

MrsBri Mon 18-Mar-13 17:52:13

Pinkbear, glad your DP came back today...shame it couldn't all be sorted today though. Fingers crossed for April.

Were the pleas in mitigation done today, or will it be part of a pre-sentencing report? In other words, when does the deciding Judge get to know about baby?

Glad that worked out, Collector :-) Good to have a little win!

Baby B has been entertaining the workforce today with his moving round so people can see! Extrovert already :-)

pinkbear82 Mon 18-Mar-13 20:31:27

MrsBri - he says it was pre-sentencing today, but I do believe mitigating pleas have also been put in. Luckily the main culprit admitted today he was the ringleader (5 involved altogether) so hopefully that is also a good thing.
Apparently he has to do a probation report now too. So hopefully that'll all help with baby and things too.

In other shocking news, I'd been so tense I hadn't really paid much attention to eating, frosties were simple easy and tasty..... I then tonight very naughtily fancied a big tasty from macy d's - they have stopped doing them shock I asked what a pregnant woman was to do if that's what she really fancied..... The worker just looked confused. That'll teach me for wanting rubbish food!!!

MrsBri Mon 18-Mar-13 20:36:14

I hope his Barrister did an excellent plea for him. And fingers crossed re the main culprit admitting the same...not sure how that works for joint enterprise though. I hope it is in your favour :-)

And that is very cruel and inconsiderate of McDonald's! Poor you!

SunnyL Mon 18-Mar-13 20:45:45

Hi all. Had. Busy busy weekend with a road trip from Edinburgh to Cambridge via PIL in Durham. Used a friends child's christening as an excuse to catch up with lots of different friends and family over the long weekend. As a bonus my SIL had left a tonne of baby stuff at my in-laws for us including loads of clothes, toys and a Moses basket.

Unfortunately Moses basket has now been bagsied and baby may find it a tight squeeze. The cat has decided this is his new bed and is looking ever so comfy curled up in the Moses basket. Not to worry - he did the same with our dogs bed until the puppy showed up and the cat decided he would rather live in the wardrobe than put up with the noise and irritation of a puppy. I imagine it will be no different when baby arrives.

LexiLexi Tue 19-Mar-13 08:28:45

Morning everybody! Have been reading but not posting for a while as it's been pretty hectic here. We have accepted an offer on our house, so all being well will be moving into our derelict delightful little cottage in the countryside in early May. Timing is less than ideal, but figure it'll be better to be settled beforehand, rather than attempting to move with a newborn and we'll be in more of a position to get things done being on site.

maisie, I think you asked about mattresses for Stokki. We ended up getting one from Littlegreensheep, which redwelly recommended. Worth looking around to see if you can find a discount voucher before buying - we got one off their facebook page.

Collector so pleased that your twins are doing well, it must have been lovely to see them on the scan- were they playing nicely? Pinkbear, glad that you and DP have some more time together before baby arrives, keeping everything crossed for you.

Off to see the Midwife today, without, I hasten to add, my 'recycled' pee pot. Bit concerned about my iron levels as I've been having so many nose bleeds and starting to look a bit pasty. Hope everybody has a good Tuesday.

Olimoss Tue 19-Mar-13 15:07:16

Hi everyone, I have a quick question - I keep waking up on my back, when sleeping. It's by far and away the most comfortable position for me (I am chocked up on both sides by a V pillow so not lying flat-out, if that makes sense, but still basically on my back, albeit with a very slight tilt left or right) but I know that general advice to try and avoid it.

I'm not experiencing any dizziness or pins and needles or anything - do you think that my body would let me know if it wasn't ok? As I understand it lying on your back doesn't compromise the baby as such, it just might compress a big vein and a nerve (hence pins and needles and dizziness symptoms)....

Not sure what to do!

SunnyL Tue 19-Mar-13 16:03:09

Olimoss I've been waking up on my back too. So far no issues - the human body is a magical thing and will probably tell you if there is an issue.

An update on the naked baby situation. After some amazing donations of baby stuff from my sister and my SIL my baby has 50 vests and 26 sleep suits just for the first 3 months!! DH wanted to know if that meant we wouldn't have to do any washing for the first month.

On a slightly more rubbish note I have been advised to get a prescription for compression tights as my varicose veins are seriously gross. Midwife also suggested I try to cry when I see the GP as they may recommend I get them stripped out. Challenge is I'm really not a cryer - do I try to watch Marley and Me surreptitiously on my phone before going in??

Citybaby Tue 19-Mar-13 16:26:41

Hello, Hoping to join too if that is ok with you ladies? I'm 28 weeks + 6 days and feel huge! Also I finally seem to have hit the emotional stage, almost cried when an old man smiled at me this morning and offered me his seat on the tube! Tears of happiness though don't worry! xxx

learnermummy Tue 19-Mar-13 16:33:35

Welcome Citybaby smile. I burst into tears yesterday afternoon watching a dog being rescued on the tv hmm. Par for the course I think!

Citybaby Tue 19-Mar-13 16:40:42

Thank you learnermummy, glad it's not just me! The man looked at me like I was mad, oops! xx

pinkbear82 Tue 19-Mar-13 16:53:09

Welcome citybaby smile it's amazing what can trigger waterworks once hormones are involved!

Oli I too seem to spend a lot if time in a propped up on back position - and also asleep on the right had side! I figure if we can still find a comfy position for now then sticking with it is good. I'm am a major fidget so don't stay any particular way for that long anyways.

pinkbear82 Tue 19-Mar-13 16:57:53

Ooo and sunny - good work on the non naked baby! It may not mean no washing but should at least mean it takes some pressure off of recycling one outfit wink
So far I think I can dress baby for 3 days a week - as long as there are no accidents.
My friend laughed at me the other day when we were talking and I said I should really buy some nappies. She looked and said dont they need more than nappies?! I concluded it was a good move to try and contain as much s**t as possible..... We then concluded a giant life size nappy may also come in hand on that basis too grin

Oh and sunny maybe the threat of
Crying will be enough for ur GP... Or say you got really upset with the midwife. Failing that onions in your bag for back up wink

Olimoss Tue 19-Mar-13 17:30:36

Thanks everyone!

Sunny - a nice bit of Vicks Vaporub under your eyes will have you bawling in no time!

Hawkmoth Tue 19-Mar-13 18:07:58

Olimoss, don't worry too much. I also keep ending up on my back and it clearly doesn't suit as it makes me feel absolutely bloody awful, dizzy and sick. Plus baby doesn't like it much and goes bonkers. This did not happen with my other two!

Wish I had to try to cry in front of GP, think I much prefer being together and darkly humorous in my dealings with healthcare professionals!

pinkapples Tue 19-Mar-13 18:26:02

I thought about that too oli as I quite often wake up on my back but no pain as yet and like others have said I'm sure our bodies and babies would tell us if there was a problem hehe

curiousgeorgie Tue 19-Mar-13 18:31:15

I think it's fine unless it makes you light headed / is painful...

I'm still trying to sleep on my front but with one knee up to tilt my body and accommodate my bump... But I think that's over and it's time for uncomfortable side sleep! I'm dreading the last few weeks when sleep just doesn't happen... I somehow forgot about that till now!

MrsBri Tue 19-Mar-13 19:39:30

Wow, georgie...front sleeping?! I'd never be able to do that as I'm very bumpy. I'd need a hole in the bed!

I do.sometimes wake on my back briefly. Very odd as I never sleep on my back normally! I do it deliberately if I've not felt baby for a while as it drives him crazy!

I think as long as you feel OK it won't be doing any harm. :-)

Well done Sunny on the clothing! Much more than I have now.

And good luck with the move, Lexi.

Also, agree re the shit, pink. :-)

Sarah2506 Tue 19-Mar-13 19:52:25

Evening all! Office move all over and done and have nice window seat on 10th floor overlooking central London. People already talking about who gets my desk when I leave! Bloody exhausting though, kind of like starting a new job whilst having the deadlines from the old.

Had the most amazing midwife appointment today. Last time I went I got this simpering idiot who ended every sentence with a giggle. This one had funky clothes and tattoos. She was happy to chat about everything. You remember I had some issue with whether my sleeping pills were ok or not? She just said everything perfectly ok, you do what you need to, too many women beating themselves up about this and that when its all perfectly fine. She said GPs know nothing and we should listen to her:-) then we had a good listen to the heart and I measured bang on. All very positive. She was also very honest about the hospital and managed my expectations well! Why can't they all be like that?!?

Mawgatron Wed 20-Mar-13 00:57:49

Hi all. I'm still awake at 5 to 1, feeling very sorry for myself. Horribly blocked up and sinus pain. Very sulky. Watching scum on the telly, it's well depressing. Grrrrrrr. Roll on getting up for work at 5.45....

SunnyL Wed 20-Mar-13 03:48:14

Oh dear Maw. Hope you get back to sleep. The reason i'm awake at 4am is entirely self inflicted and deserves no sympathy. I had a takeaway curry despite knowing i would suffer with indigestion through the night. Damn it was tasty though!

Dillydollydaydream Wed 20-Mar-13 04:25:07

Wide awake here! Keep waking up in the middle of the night for an hour or 2 and can't get back to sleep. I went to bed at 11 so not ridiculously early. Going to be shattered tomorrow!
Hope you get done sleep soon.

Mawgatron Wed 20-Mar-13 06:05:50

Did get about 3 hours. Got up at 5 as I couldn't be bothered to lay in bed awake anymore. Came downstairs and showered, decided not to go to work. Sat on sofa...oh good. There is cat sick on the sofa that my freshly washed arse sat it. Brilliant!

Olimoss Wed 20-Mar-13 09:21:49

Insomnia for us all last night then? How nice...

layers on 2 inches of touche eclat

redwellybluewelly Wed 20-Mar-13 09:23:45

No insomia for me but I had a very busy (and stressful) day - posted in Childbirth for anyone who wants the gory details of my ongoing shit care from the NHS

Coffee anyone?!

pinkbear82 Wed 20-Mar-13 10:13:40

brew And match sticks for all. Don't worry ladies 'it's just preparing you for when baby arrives' ARGH confused if one more person says that to me! including my own mum, did you find that saying helpful mum?! No well shush!

After forcing myself to do housework and nasty washing (tumble dryer busy, airer hanging an ld putting away is soooo boring) I am now sorting my toe nails out. A nice pretty fresh colour I think. Even if I don't feel it my toes will look it.

LexiLexi Wed 20-Mar-13 10:39:35

have just read your other post, redwelly. That is an awful situation; it sounds to me like someone in the consultant's office is trying to cover up their incompetence (not passing on messages, etc.). I'm not au fait with the NHS but I'm sure that there are others on here that will be able to provide some suggestions as to the best course of action. In the meantime, hope that you are getting the support you need, unMNet hug brew biscuit

learnermummy Wed 20-Mar-13 12:38:41

No insomnia here, but unusually both kids were up in the night! That hasn't happened in years, they're such good sleepers.

How about this for front sleeping - www.holo-lilo.com

MrsBri Wed 20-Mar-13 13:05:40

Not exactly insomnia, but Baby B doing the Riverdance for about 90 minutes Leo me awake til gone 1am :-/ Luckily I'm working from home today, so I got to stay in bed til 7.30am, which was bloody lovely!

Sorry about the problems you're having, redwelly. I hope it gets sorted soon.

AlohaMama Wed 20-Mar-13 15:42:14

Just read your post redwelly and i'm sorry you are having such a struggle with your hospital. Sorry no helpful advice as I don't know the system but I really hope you manage to get the support you need and someone to fight your corner.

suzyrut Wed 20-Mar-13 16:20:15

Hi All,

Have the 4 am wake up call too, don't know if it's because baby is awake or she wakes up because I am but 5.30 is my normal get back to sleep time, will know to check mn from now instead of just lying there thinking about all the things I haven't done! I have read that the waking/sleeping patterns that baby develops now are similar to what we'll get when they arrive...yikes.

Sorry you're having such a tough time redwelly. As an alternative to trying to speak to the consultant over the phone can you make an appointment to see him without going through his secretary? I arrange appointments with my consultant through the regular ante-natal booking team in the maternity unit and eventhough I have spoken to his PA in the past she didn't seem to manage his diary beyond which hospital he'd be at on that particular day. Failing that and as a last resort could you find out what day his clinic runs and camp out until you've seen him, I appreciate in your circumstances that may be very hard?

Good luck xxx

MrsBri Wed 20-Mar-13 17:21:40

I swear this baby us trying to escape through my belly, ala Alien :-/

The amount of shoving that goes on, and what feels like dragging of knuckles on the inside of my uterus, is unreal! I've find from not seeing movement to baby almost never being still in the space of a couple of days!

If it wasn't for the scan, I'd assume I was having an octopus!

pinkbear82 Wed 20-Mar-13 17:28:34

Lol Mrsbri - you've got a wriggler!!

I was listening to some music earlier and every time a song by the script came on there was loads of movement! Not quite sure what to make of that.

Does anyone else find that their maternity bras come above every top? Just the lace bit on the top of the cups. I can't say my clothes are so low cut everything hangs out, but on most I get bra popping above - even if I put a vest top on underneath. Can't wait till it starts warming up if I'm getting issues with non summery clothes now!!

MrsBri Wed 20-Mar-13 17:34:13

My bras are so MAHOOSIVE they show under everything! :-/

Baby B doesn't always respond to music...got me worried he's deaf. DH told me not to be daft!

Pink, it does make you wonder if they love or hate it, doesn't it?!

Olimoss Wed 20-Mar-13 18:02:22

We are flying to Rome on Sunday and the airline has asked for a doctor's letter to say nomprobs with pregnancy (even tho will only be just 30 weeks....) - GP will charge me £20 for it - cheek!

Redwelly - that really sucks. My dad is a Dr and he's be pissed if he found out his messages weren't getting passed on. Def try to see yours face to face, that's the best way.

pinkapples Wed 20-Mar-13 18:28:29

Home after a busy day sorry your having a rough time of it red and definitely sounds like you have a wringer in there mrs bri

Baby comes and goes these days but not a day goes by that I don't feel her which is nice as it took so long to start with grin downloaded my baby's beat on the iPhone (against my best judgement) but underneath my own gurgling you can defo hear baby which is nice and at my last appointment the mw let me record it which was lovely...

Very excited about my scan on the 2nd April woohoo can't contain myself im so excited gringringringringrinwill possibly see babies face if she cooperates grin

Did anyone else decide on another can before baby comes

pinkapples Wed 20-Mar-13 18:28:49

Sorry mrsbri I meant wriggler

learnermummy Wed 20-Mar-13 18:42:48

Oli - can your midwife not do you a letter for free? I did that last pregnancy.

As for bras, you need Anita underwired maternity - feel and look just like normal bras, shame so expensive as I really need new ones now!

pinapples I'm really tempted to book another scan, will probably ring babybond next week...

MrsBri Wed 20-Mar-13 18:46:34

Pinkapples, we are holding off getting another scan. Going to be patient for the first time ever, ha ha. :-)

Learner, you're not meant to wear underwired bras in pregnancy. Have those be specially developed somehow?

And that's steep, Oli. Definitely ask your midwife.

grainmum Wed 20-Mar-13 18:56:34

Which airline oli? (panics about easyjet flight to Paris Friday even though website says it's ok)

AlohaMama Wed 20-Mar-13 18:57:34

MrsBri last pregnancy I heard no underwired but then when I re-checked advice this time I read that there wasn't any proven link between wiring and problems with milk production, which I think was the concern. I think it's just what is more comfortable, and making sure it fits properly. I still wear wired bras, and a couple non-wired. Mind you they still feel mahoosive. Wait till you try and get nice nursing bras!! Top tip for nursing bras though - soft (non-wired) strapless boob tube/bras are great and cheap!

Have fun in Rome Oli!

SunnyL Wed 20-Mar-13 19:10:01

Mini rant. I'm back at work after 10 days away. I'm prepping for a workshop I'm facilitating on Friday. So far today I've written 4 presentations, edited a further 3, written 2 handouts, sorted the logistics, printed out all the necessary materials. On top of that I've also done some project management for a further 2 contracts I hold.

My colleague who came in today to help me has written 2 presentations and 1 handout in the same time.

And they say I've got baby brain and am functioning slower than normal!!!! Flippin heck they're lucky to have me here!

SunnyL Wed 20-Mar-13 19:10:57


MrsBri - somehow my babs has smuggled a cork screw in there and occasionally picks it up for a bit of digging. It feels marvelous hmm

AlohaMama Wed 20-Mar-13 19:15:21

Blimey sunny you're a lot more productive than me. I just sit here thinking about leaving and surfing mnet and wishing I didn't have to do all the things on my to do list!!

Olimoss Wed 20-Mar-13 19:24:20

Alitalia which is why it's probably confusing. They say medical thingy obligatory if twins/7 days before or after birth, etc, but also say kind of that it's best to have the letter. Midwife will have all her spots booked up already for this week.

Maybe I should just go without, cover bump with jacket and scarf till I board the plane!

MrsBri Wed 20-Mar-13 19:31:50

Sunny, I recognise that sensation :-/ At the moment baby is trying to shove himself out via my right hand side. I'm really very uncomfortable. Once my dinner has gone down I'm going to lie on my left and hope gravity kicks in.

And that's awesome productivity! I'm still doing more that the 3 bitches I work with too. Probably bloody combined. Not sure I've done that much though!

learnermummy Wed 20-Mar-13 19:50:38

Yes, these bras have a soft underwire that is fine for preganancy/nursing. They also have nursing clips on. Wouldn't be without them!

Withalittlesparkle Wed 20-Mar-13 19:57:36

I'm still wearing underwire bras! Although I actually take my bra off whenever I'm at home

SunnyL Wed 20-Mar-13 20:09:34

It's amazing how productive one can be when a deadline is looming!

Olimoss I got a letter from my midwife to fly back from Sri Lanka for free. I only needed it when I pleaded with them for a better seat on account of my pregnancy. To be honest - the check in desks are so high i think you could easily get away with it. Unless the staff at the gate notice??

learnermummy Wed 20-Mar-13 20:40:23

Oli perhaps you could phone the midwife and ask? You might not need a full appointment.

Olimoss Wed 20-Mar-13 22:17:48

Yes good advice, all, cheers, I'll see what she says.

I'm totally wearing normal, underwired bras but did have to go get a bigger size in the back and cup....I'm a Rigby & Peller fan (I've got massive bloody jugs, I hate them) and just can't abide anything that doesn't fit me properly, so is def worth it.

SunnyL Thu 21-Mar-13 05:56:02

Well that was a truly rubbish nights sleep - 3 hours tops. Did that irritating thing where i knew i have a really important meeting today and needed to be fresh for it so instead of sleeping i lay there worrying about it. Oh and add a healthy dose of indigestion on top of that.

Got a 4.5hr train journey to London this morning. May have to use that time for napping instead of prepping.

MrsBri Thu 21-Mar-13 07:08:44

Definitely nap, Sunny. Sleep is far more important than prep! :-)

I was kept awake with the Riverdance again last night. Apparently I did manage to sleep through some of it though, as DH told me he felt movement overnight. I appear to have a baby that doesn't sleep. Bodes well :-/

In the office again today...seriously hoping for properly disruptive snow tomorrow so I can stay at home again! I get far more done. Bet it doesn't happen though. Or it'll only get disruptive once I'm at my desk and can't go home!

Hi everyone!
Just checking in nothing interesting to report. I totally agree about the maternity bras showing with every top I wear its a nightmare! Can't stand underwire at min though as gone from 32 to 36 so having to put up with it and trying to use vest tops under tips where possible.
I'm exhausted working can't wait to finish!! I nearly pulled into services off M1 yesterday for a nap!

pinkbear82 Thu 21-Mar-13 09:54:42

Well, you have all made me feel much better about the bra situation! I was half expecting it just to be me with odd boobs or something!!

Sunny hope you can nap on the train and re boost.

Oli hope you can get your letter from
The midwife sorted - I have a general midwife office phone number for the area, don't know if you have something similar to track one down with even if yours is busy.

Was up in the night with DP who had chronic toothache. Nothing worse, add a man into the equation and it's the worst thing ever so off to the dentist with him later.
Did make me giggle that I can be awake countless nights and he'll sleep soundly. Bless him.

AmIGoingMad Thu 21-Mar-13 10:53:14

Redwelly just read your post- glad you've finally managed to get an appt and so sorry you're going through this.

I'm still in underwired bras this time- last time I couldn't face them but this time they're marginally more comfy than the non wired ones. I just wish I could wear my bravado vest all day every day!

Have a lovely time in Rome oli!

DS full of cold so sleep situation has taken a few steps backwards and I'm now full of cold too! Thank goodness I'm off today!

Have a good Thursday all- nearly the weekend!

AmIGoingMad Thu 21-Mar-13 10:53:45

I appear to be addicted to exclamation marks sorry!

redwellybluewelly Thu 21-Mar-13 11:55:44

Thanks AmI seems however I got the wrong end of the stick when I thought that I would have any kind of discussion about when the CS would be booked for, even though I have to arrange specialist care for my daughter (she has seizures) which the consultant team are well aware of.

Now looking at going to a hospital out of area, which means a long way to travel as we are so rural but possibility of better care. Would also mean leaving DD for much longer without her seeing her 'noo baby' but I might then be able to relax and gain a bit of confidence in the hospital team.

I am going to have to bit the bullet and get some new bras, and some better maternity PJs - I just wore T-shirts or baggy trousers last time but this time I am carrying so low nothing fits. Bump is about 4/5 inches lower than last time!

pinkbear82 Thu 21-Mar-13 13:53:07

Redwelly it's such a shame you are having such a time of it. The least the hospital could have done is stuck to their word and supported you.
I don't blame you for looking else where - and I hope you put a complaint in about the lack of support you've had.

Does your dd go to any day care at all? I was just thinking/wondering if she did if someone who knows her from there, and therefore knows what care she needs would be able to help you out? Don't know if that would be at all possible. And no doubt you have ideas of what you might do, but just thought I'd throw something else in the pot - hopefully not out of turn.

Oli I love R&P too - I got some fantastic underwired nursing bras from them before DD was born, but I need to replace them this time round, they're really rather knackered - I worked out I bought them about 6 years ago shock so probably about time!

Redwelly good luck with sorting out your section & DD's care - I'm agitating for a date too as childcare for DD & DS will be my parents, but they are abroad and have to book travel to get here. I have a couple of friends who have offered to be in reserve, but they have kids of their own and husbands who work nights so it could get complicated. You'd think that HCPs realised this... hmm

Can't remember if I mentioned this already, but I now have another growth scan booked in for next Thursday as there were some concerns raised about last week's - fingers crossed things have settled down a bit by then. Otherwise we'll be looking at sections more towards 35/36 weeks rather than the 38 weeks I'm currently aiming for. Desperate to get past 36 weeks, as DD's birthday will be when I'm 35+6 and don't want to be in hospital for that!

redwellybluewelly Thu 21-Mar-13 13:58:46

Thanks Pink and Rue

Childcare for DC1 will be her usual daycare or the only family member who is comfortable dealing with the potential seizure risk (they always require paramedics) but I still need to ensure that is in place and nursery while they are outstandingly brilliant have already said that they cannot offer any additional slots. Its just the feeling of lack of support and lack of understanding when I hate the place already.

Rue hope all is well at the growth scan thanks

Mawgatron Thu 21-Mar-13 14:23:28

It must be awful having to cope with that red, I hope you find a better alternative to your local hospital.

Have yet to buy maternity bras, although I suspect that next week when I am on Easter holiday I may go on a little jolly to mothercare.

Still off work sick. Full of cold, agonising sinuses. Well grumpy! At least watching Jeremy Kyle is making me feel slightly better- my life could be a lot worse!

maisiebeem Thu 21-Mar-13 15:18:54

Nothing like a bit of Jeremy Kyle to make you feel better about yourself!
Now- I have a tmi question for you ladies....about hair downstairs! I used to be a regular waxer- but have let that go....poor dh!
As so many people have told me- during labour you loose all self respect, and don't really give crap about how you look- I do really want to start taking better care of the area, I want to feel good down there- iyswim? And would quite like to be pretty trim closer to the birth!
What are you all doing? I was thinking of using hair removal cream, but thinking its going to get more an more awkward to access the area! Also read somewhere (possibly on a previous thread- in which case I apologise for repeating the subject!) that you shouldn't be totally "hair-less" down there as the hair helps prevent infection- if you have stitches etc...! Sorry to lower the tone!

Mawgatron Thu 21-Mar-13 15:22:39

Glad you asked that Maisie, I'm in exactly the same boat. Also, the bigger I get, the further up my tum my bikini line seems to be travelling! I'm thinking I'm gonna keep waxing, but go for a less extreme version than normal (g string instead of Brazilian). Not sure how late I can have one though, anyone got any ideas?

pinkbear82 Thu 21-Mar-13 15:31:12

Must be on our minds! I'm usually a trimmer of the area but as I now can't see have been wondering what's best to do as dont want any accidents. But it really has got to the point of needing to do something.

Glad it's not jus my bikini line that's escaping upwards.... Oh the glamour!

AmIGoingMad Thu 21-Mar-13 16:27:49

I'm definitely with you on this- its pretty bad now! Can't see to do much about it either! Can we use hair removal cream or is that no good for bubs?

I've been using hair removal cream for the past month or so and it's not too bad. It's a bit wonky where I cant see but I feel it's safer to go wrong with cream than a razor and hopefully as d day gets closer DH won't mind helping. He does complain about the smell though. I bought some veet than comes with a scrubbing brush and it stinks (sensitive one) but quick and easy.
Buy 1 get 1 half price in boots iirc.
Reading here makes me realise how lucky I am not having to plan childcare etc it must be so difficult. I've just got to hope that DH is reachable when I do go into labour. He's a police sergeant so works shifts and if taking statement etc phone is off.

Olimoss Thu 21-Mar-13 16:48:16

Thanks everyone for Drs letter support - have decided to take a risk and just turn up without one, too much of a hassle in the end, think it should be fine, I'll cover up with scarf and coat anyway!

I had another go at buying scary stuff like nipple cream and maternity pads today. Got a few but freaked out when looking at choice of bottles and sterilises and stuff and so just bought what I had and then ran! Did get a nice rug for the baby's room from Urban Outfitters so it's all ready now bar the cot.

Re: bikini lines. Did mine this morning, we are all in some kind of weird sync! I just propped a mirror up on a chair in the bathroom, stood in the bath and used a good bikini trimmer (Phillips, I think), this trimmed very shirt but no chance of stubbly regrowth or ingrown hairs. Perfect. Think I can manage that all the way as long as with the mirror I can see what I'm doing....don't fancy letting the buy friend near there with anything resembling a cutting surface!

Olimoss Thu 21-Mar-13 16:48:59

Shirt = short. Obv.

Olimoss Thu 21-Mar-13 16:49:40

Shit, and buy friend = boyfriend...

I swear my iPad is crazy.

pinkapples Thu 21-Mar-13 16:55:55

Well after my scissor incident which I'm sure you all remember grinI have gone for using hubby's hair trimmer (number 1 as he uses number 2 on his head) no stubble close enough to preserve some hair for fighting infections etc and easy to do with no risk of cutting/hurting etc... I did read no hair removal cream on genitals and I think it says it on all the packaging and tubs as I'm sure I thought about that before hubby suggested hair trimmers x

learnermummy Thu 21-Mar-13 17:16:36

I also have a bikini trimmer which is good! Lying down seems to flatten out bump a bit so I can see too.

cyclecamper Thu 21-Mar-13 17:33:44

I only trim the bit that would poke out of the leg of my (all in one) swimsuit and I can still manage that. I did actually shave my legs on tuesday for the first time in a while. I went swimming today so that was worth it (husband doesn't care about legs and finds too much shaving creepy - he says he likes grown ups! grin). I joined the local swimming pool and gym yesterday and went for a gym induction and swim today, which was nice.

AlohaMama Thu 21-Mar-13 17:52:00

bikini waxing while pregnant??!! ouch! I had to give that up as it was way more painful as I was so much more sensitive. Currently dh uses bikini trimmers, apparently he enjoys it hmm, I just have to rein him in so he doesn't go too far. He's also a dab hand at waxing my legs and is getting more practised with painting my toe nails!! At this rate he can have a 2nd career as a beauty therapist!

MrsBri Thu 21-Mar-13 17:53:41

I'm still shaving, but by touch more than sight...hoping to avoid injury. I imagine it looks more than a little haphazard down there!! :-) DH didn't seem too keen on taking the job on, so will keep going until I just can't anymore.

My midwife friend did say they're not too worried about that kind of thing. But clean feet are essential!

LexiLexi Thu 21-Mar-13 18:15:53

I'm using a bikini trimmer and a strategically-placed mirror, which seems to work quite well for now. AlohaMama very impressed with your DH's skills, not sure I'd be brave enough to let DP loose with the nail varnish- happily my cheap and cheerful Barry M seems to be quite chip resistant!

btw, MrsBri I asked the midwife how long the somersaults go on for and apparently it could be up til the end of week 37...I think baby has learned to swim recently as I'm getting kicks both sides of my bump simultaneously

AlohaMama Thu 21-Mar-13 18:24:06

Lexi, he doesn't do a perfect job but I figured with practise...

DontmindifIdo Thu 21-Mar-13 18:47:04

well I've shaved (rather scary to do ) as I couldn't get a wax appointment and we went swimming last weekend with DS, however letting that regrow and getting back to the waxer. Yes it hurts more, but have chocolate cake in the house back home as your treat to yourself afterwards.

I have read, however, that the reason they don't shave you in labour any more is that woman who are full bushed at childbirth actually have less infections in stitches than those who are clean shaven/waxed, the hair does have a purpose it seems (although they aren't entirely sure how it protects you, just that it does). So whatever tidying up method you go for, from about 34 weeks, stop and embrace the full on 70s porn style muff in time for childbirth....

pinkbear82 Thu 21-Mar-13 18:47:53

Aloha I read that out to my DP and asked when he was taking up training!

I keep meaning to get a mirror I can leave in the bathroom for trimming purposes. Like many a thing lately I keep forgetting.

MrsBri Thu 21-Mar-13 19:43:07

Lexi, that's not what I wanted to hear! I assumed - clearly naively - that Baby B would run out of room sooner than that. :-/

Thankfully today is a quiet day after mentalism yesterday!

I doubt I'll be able to shave even at, let alone after, 34 weeks, so I'll embrace the muff, I reckon :-)

AmIGoingMad Thu 21-Mar-13 19:44:47

Mirror and decent trimmer will need to go on my to buy list smile

redwellybluewelly Thu 21-Mar-13 20:10:15

Baby got hiccups on the way home, cute, what was odd was dd also had hiccups!

DH out tonight so dd and I curled up in bed together to read books. Dd had bear and then saw I didn't have a cuddly so got back out of bed, found another cuddly, gave it to me and told me to get reading!

Forgot to get any munchies for tonights rubbish tv watching so you'll all have to keep me occupied!

pinkbear82 Thu 21-Mar-13 20:19:48

Awww redwelly that's priceless!

DP suffering with a tooth infection. Nothing worse than toothache but goodness me, I've offered to take the bloody tooth out myself if it saves the moaning and cost
Think I may have left my sympathy somewhere else.

Think it might be me getting wound up over my first counselling session tomorrow. Just that whole meeting someone new and being able to open up. It will be worth it eventually tho.

pinkapples Thu 21-Mar-13 20:42:39

Awww pink good luck for tomorrow let us know how it goes

Anyone gone in for this talking to baby/letting it listen to music? How are you doing it if so? Just turning te music up or directing it at the bump etc would be interested to know

AlohaMama Thu 21-Mar-13 20:47:33

grin @ embracing the 70s porn style muff!!

Good luck tomorrow pinkbear.

as for listening to music/talking. Hmm no not really. I figure baby can probably hear us talk without having to specifically feel like we're taking to it. DH did talk to belly with ds and does occasionally remember to talk to the bump. DS says hello and night night and gives it kisses! We'll see if he's still so loving once she's actually here!

learnermummy Thu 21-Mar-13 21:03:45

Ooh just found home birth programme on itv smile

redwellybluewelly Thu 21-Mar-13 21:09:21

Baby likes music but I haven't spent anytime sending it specific toones. However I do hum a tune I picked up at yoga last time which is meant to soothe and if they get used to it can be used to calm them when they are earth side as well. Didn't work with dd but then she was a very sick baby and then a very cross baby!

Dd says hello and bye bye to baby and it does respond to dd talking ans dh talking. Its very loved already and it gets a lot of attention!

Anyone else having issues with dry skin? My hands are so bad they are bleeding allover my desk and clothed!

redwellybluewelly Thu 21-Mar-13 21:11:17

Good luck pink. Also re the tooth infection has he seen a dentist? Ive had two tooth infections aand they were more painful than labour.

pinkbear82 Thu 21-Mar-13 21:23:17

Thanks for all the luck - I've had cbt before and found it really useful. So probably not as nervous as I could be, but it's everything it brings up and feeling a bit emotional all ready. Had a bit of a teary moment over cooking tea because it means using two saucepans and a frying pan...... I know, I don't get it either.

Redwelly I did manage to get him to a dentist earlier - he has a massive fear and hasn't been in years. He needs two teeth out and some fillings. He's got antibiotics for now as the infection is affecting two teeth but the one he's feeling it in is a good tooth and she was reluctant to take that out just to solve pain.
Think it will be sedation and hand holding to get him back - but think he'll listen to my nagging pleas to get it all sorted now.

I occasionally have a little chat with bump. But haven't really thought about doing anything else. Have a feeling it's first words might be 'no dog' he's testing patience tonight. The dog, not the bump! wink

maisiebeem Thu 21-Mar-13 21:37:29

I'm a nursery nurse, so everyday am singing and reading stories, so I pretend I'm singing and reading to my little one instead! DH tries to talk directly to bump every morning and night, he always puts on a strange voice though- which I don't think he realises he does! And we play music to it most mornings, as we slowly wake up. What ever music dh feels like listening too- most recently Jason mraz- which little one seems to like!
I am goin to purchase new trimmer and a "do not move from bathroom" mirror!

AlohaMama Thu 21-Mar-13 21:59:30

Finally succumbed to buying more maternity clothes after realising that my one pair of jeans and 2 skirts plus a couple of dresses weren't quite enough. I hate spending money on something that lasts for such a short space of time! Fortunately a friend sent me a big box of her old maternity clothes now she's done having babies, so now I think I'm all set. Less worries about naked babies here, more about naked mummy.

Aloha I know the feeling its really annoying buying more clothes at this stage. I'm starting to look at clothes suitable for breast feeding & tops are so expensive. Not really sure what I need. I've even looked on eBay and can't believe nursing tops go for so high! Been looking at vest tops as it will be summer but I prob won't want my flabby tummy on show!
Anyone else awake? I've just had some toast and a choc milkshake!!

redwellybluewelly Fri 22-Mar-13 04:15:34

I'm awake.

Dd woke at 3am and although its dh settling her I can't sleep. Too much on my mind.

AlohaMama Fri 22-Mar-13 05:16:59

I'm awake!! But then it is only 7 pm here. Still feels like it's nearly bed time. So hot, I just want to lie under a fan and melt.

littlemiss do you really need specific nursing tops? If you've got something to kind of cover up on top then surely lots of 'normal' tops work? Or am I missing something? If you want summer stuff, strapless is easy.

pinkapples Fri 22-Mar-13 06:25:27

Oh good that I'm not alone on the talking front I manage a day nursery Maisie so I kind of feel the same if she can hear then what she's getting is nursery rhymes books and daft voices with puppets hehe

SunnyL Fri 22-Mar-13 06:43:52

Went to an important business meeting which could mean quite a lot of money to my company. Its very hard to concentrate though when someone is kicking you in the fanny from the inside the whole way through. Im sure i must have been pulling some cracking faces throughout.

On the music thing i havent been specifically playing music to bump but it did go mental at zumba last week during all the latin tunes. Guess i'm having a world traveller like me.

AmIGoingMad Fri 22-Mar-13 07:09:03

Haha sunny- that must have been interesting!grin

Good luck with counselling today Pinkbear.

Happy Friday everyone! I'm just getting ready for work but am feeling dog rough. New sickness policy is evil though so going to try but will have to come home if I don't start to feel better throughout the morning hmm

MrsBri Fri 22-Mar-13 07:12:42

Baby B has been hit and miss when I've played music into my bump through headphones. Though as I'm not too sure which end is which, I could be playing music to his arse!

May try again this weekend. :-)

Thankfully, Sunny, Baby B has turned so I no longer get kicked in my fanjo! I just get head butter in the side as he seemingly attempts to make an escape through my right side. Painful.

As is his habit of wriggling hard into whichever side I'm laying on in bed.

Awkward buggers, aren't they? Very much loved awkward buggers, mind :-)

I've not even considered nursing tops yet. Head in sand much?! I've got ages to go...maybe I'll just wear my nursing nightwear permanently!

MrsBri Fri 22-Mar-13 07:19:10

AmI, sickness due to pregnancy isn't allowed to count towards your sickness record, so don't go in if you're rough.

And good luck today, pink. Hopefully you may open up more easily to someone who's impartial.

And it was butted, not butter, below!

redwellybluewelly Fri 22-Mar-13 08:38:32

Will come back later and post my cheap and cheerful alternative to nursing tops.

Fairly predictably we all got up very late dur to being up between 3-5am and an hour later I'm just finishing breakfast.

Mawgatron Fri 22-Mar-13 09:36:13

Morning all. Thanks for the reminder about nursing tops, will add that to my to do list.
Still off sick. Prob could have dragged myself in but just thought its not worth it. Better to recover properly and go in Monday I reckon.

Baby is also kicking loads when I'm lying down now. It's quite a relief as I didn't feel much for ages because of an anterior placenta. Was starting to get a little worried! I'm sure he will be driving me potty soon enough though.

DontmindifIdo Fri 22-Mar-13 13:00:21

Mawgatron - to be honest with nursing tops last time, I found a vest top and pulling down with boob over the top with a large pashmina to cover exposing myself worked fine, and often easier than overly complex nursing tops. Ones with lots of poppers etc will be hard work to do back up when you've got a baby in your arm and trying to cover back up fast...

DontmindifIdo Fri 22-Mar-13 13:01:08

Other alternatives, vest top with stretchy straps with a t-shirt a size too big over the top (ideally same colour) and you have you own double layer top.

MrsBri Fri 22-Mar-13 16:50:48

Afternoon :-)

Actually been allowed to leave early today due to snow as Merseyrail advised people not to travel with them after 4pm!

Though I'm on a train now and it isn't too bad...don't want to tempt fate though!

Pink, how was the counselling? Hope you're ok. xx

pinkbear82 Fri 22-Mar-13 17:56:37

Great tips on nursing tops - had been wondering if I needed to get lots. Guess summer babies are quite handy too, less layers to battle thru!

Counselling went ok this morning. Leaves you feeling a bit raw. Haven't felt 100% since. The good thing is the lady said its usually a two step course and you usually finish the first part and they see about the second, but she said she's put me forward for the second as well, as she hopes that will fit with arrival of bubs and possibly when I may find I need extra help. So I guess we'll see how it all goes smile

Hope everyone's got something to look forward to this weekend. We have the DSC and I'm voting for a film day tomorrow with duvets on the sofa. As long as we can get both girls to pick a film and if I hide love actually we may get to watch something different wink

SunnyL Fri 22-Mar-13 19:53:54

If anyone sews I've found a couple of useful looking patterns for nursing tops. DH is on night shift this weekend so was thinking of tackling one of the patterns with some cheap fabric I picked up in Sri Lanka. Canae be assed buying yet more clothes that will get limited use.

DontmindifIdo Fri 22-Mar-13 20:12:29

Sunny - that was my thinking really, buying vest tops (ideally with either stretchy or adjustable straps so you can easily get the top down) and layering (or just using big pashminas to cover up any exposed boobs/belly) means I'll at least wear those anyway. Cardies with a vest top underneath you can pull down is also perfectly servicable. (go for somehting with a lot of fabric in it, like a boyfriend or <shudder> waterfall cardie to make sure you can wrap it round you) Not the most 'summer friendly' idea, but hten after last summer and this 'spring' I'm not assuming it'll be all that hot...

redwellybluewelly Fri 22-Mar-13 22:31:48

Ok. My tip is to buy stretchy vest tops from h and m as well as bump bands which are often found in topsgop or new look.

Lift vest top and bump band protects midriff. Discreet and cheap. I had a terrible feeder and found it was easier to rely on where I fed at least in the early days. So I knew I could grab lunch from boots and eat it in the feeding room in mothercare sitting in a comfy chair. Or that our Starbucks had cosy armchairs which faced away from the main cafe and friendly staff. By the time I stopped feeding dc1 at 26months I could do so fairly unobserved.

AmIGoingMad Sat 23-Mar-13 07:30:47

Glad counselling went well Pinkbear. I have mine in April and have been kind of dreading it.

Great tips on feeding tops thanks! Last time around I didn't buy any at first and was glad I hadn't when bf ing didn't work out. I was devastated and one of the only silver linings was that I hadn't spent lots on tops to remind me that I hadn't been able to do it hmm
I'm hoping that birth will be a little easier on my body this time and that it will play ball accordingly. Does anyone have nipple shield recommendations? Apparently mine (nipples not shields) were the talk of the midwife station last time shock!

Binkybix Sat 23-Mar-13 09:10:03

Hey all

Just checking in. So far I've only bought one maternity skirt for work, but think the time has come for more stuff. I was going to go today, but it's so cold. Does anyone know if Oxford Street shops actually have maternity ranges in? Have had real trouble elsewhere, even Westfield.

I've not thought about anything at all planning wise yet. Will get organised soon for sure. Maybe.

Hope that all ladies and doing ok.

Mrs bri - how did it go with HR?

MrsBri Sat 23-Mar-13 09:15:51

I think other people have said there still isn't much choice on Oxford Street, Binky. The internet is almost the only place with any choice :-/

HR meeting was positive. I'd already decided I wasn't going to be forced out early by bitches. They are going to take a more proactive role with them too.

Have also said there needs to be a handover plan in place for me, which there wasn't, which will gradually reduce my workload, so I feel less stressed. So it is coming together now. Though the person who is taking over my work is a lazy cow who doesn't do stuff properly, so it could be fun. Not my problem though!

AmI I've used the avent shields before (both times) and found them pretty good - I hated the boots ones, the raised part wasn't big enough and pinched me, and the flat bit against your skin was massive and got in LO's way. Not tried any others. Having said that, with dd when the MW said I should try them (day 3, 9lb baby & no milk in yet - poor love was starving and ate me alive!) she dispatched DH to buy them and in the meantime actually just stuck a bottle teat over my boob - which worked shockgrin

MrsBri Sat 23-Mar-13 09:21:34

Sorry, got distracted and pressed send...how are you feeling now, Binky?

Binky apart from a tiny mothercare I felt that Oxford street was rubbish. The Internet is your friend I'm afraid. Next has a sale on this wkend and I think mamas and papas does too.

DontmindifIdo Sat 23-Mar-13 09:54:08

Just checked my e-mails, seems Kiddicare have a sale on pushchairs for the next 48 hours, up to 60% off - worth looking to see if they've got one you had your eye on in the sale...

Binkybix Sat 23-Mar-13 12:18:50


Glad it went so well Mrs Bri.

I made the decision to just leave early, so not too long to go now. Work is still very busy and being put under pressure to do stuff even though people know I'm leaving, but as you say, not my problem once I'm gone! Even though people will judge the poor management of workload on me, but trying not to think of that yet.

Still not feeling great, but getting there hopefully.

I hate internet shopping. All the hassle of trying stuff on sending it back etc. Le sigh. At least it's good weather for staying in. Although think a few shops in Batttersea where I could get some jeans perhaps.

MrsBri Sat 23-Mar-13 13:29:38

I know what you mean, Binky, but it appears that there's not much option. New Look tends to have a little bit of maternity wear in store, but not huge amounts.

What's your finishing date? So jealous of anybody leaving really early, though I'm finishing at 34 weeks thanks to annual leave to use up. Still feels forever away though! :-/

And I have no doubt that I'll be blamed for the bitches' shortcomings once I've left and all manner of other things as well. But I'm not going back into that team, so sod them! They'll soon suffer without my brains to pick. :-)

SunnyL Sat 23-Mar-13 16:03:57

After 3 crazy as back at work I am doing a rather good impression of a slug today. I've barely made it up from the horizontal position on the sofa other than a short dog walk (couldn't ignore her anymore - I'd had toys piled high on my belly for about 2 hours leading up to it).

Anyway I'm in shock - very good friend had a baby on Friday night. It was 10 pounds. How the feck do you push something out that is that big???

MrsBri Sat 23-Mar-13 17:00:40

Ouch, 10lbs sounds painful :-/

Enjoy the sofa, Sunny, sounds like you need / deserve it.

Baby B has been entertaining us today. What with my belly moving all over the place, baby also smacked DH hard in the face while he was talking into my belly. Really very amusing :-)

I'm now on the way to my friend's baby shower for the evening. Nice to get out, though it took all my motivation to escape the house!

pinkapples Sat 23-Mar-13 17:45:26

Aww sunny I've just got back in from taking the dogs to the forest for a walk as like you I'd had a lovely collection of rope toys and balls steadily taking over my sofa space...

In other news bought some new look over bump jeans today which are so so so much more comfortable than the under the bump ones also got a cosy maternity hoodie grin

Had my nails done twice today once at 9am this morning full new set of acrylics as my others were falling off all over the place an hour later decided I hated cried to my husband at how I hated them and then went back and asked her to change them... She must have hated me but to be fair they weren't what is asked for think the crying was more about why the hell I'd walked out the first time clearly not liking them bless her she took them all off ad started again and didn't even charge me gringrin bargain (although utter waste of my life)

Now sitting with hubby for a salad and we have decided to have a wetherspoons breakfast in the morning yummy...

Anyone else thinking of a getaway before baby shows up? We're thinking log cabin with its own sunken heat pool hmmm lush!

arlandria666 Sat 23-Mar-13 18:13:29

can't believe we will soon be in April! not been on for a while and just been catching up x x
we have a 4d scan booked tomorrow (that's if the snow doesn't stop us going!) just wondered if anyone else's has had one or having one x x

Hawkmoth Sat 23-Mar-13 18:21:12

Anyone else got swollen legs yet? Is bloody awful. MW not overly worried about them as bp and urine ok, but I'm sure it's a bad sign. Not to mention the stretching and itching on my shins. Not looking forward to 12 more weeks of it, at least.... I actually swelled up MORE after DS.

Pink we are thinking of a weekend away in May, just can't decide where!!
Think I might need to get my over bump jeans out soon. Popped to garage earlier it was snowing so popped my coat on, and it no longer fastens! I want to start wearing my summery maternity clothes!!

Good luck with scan tomorrow how exciting!
Mrs Bri have a great time.
I've already told this baby he needs to be 6lb, nothing over 8 please, can't even imagine popping out a 10lb baby!

redwellybluewelly Sat 23-Mar-13 18:33:50

Bigger babies are easier to birth as they come out with gravity according to many people I know. Or rather smaller babies can take a longer time to birth.

Big heads though. Sheesh.

My full day at work with three hours driving has just been nicely rounded off by discovering that a family member fed my dd something which will make her sick all night. Completely accidental but also avoidable. Joy.

AmIGoingMad Sat 23-Mar-13 18:37:33

10lb?! Please no!!!

Have a lovely time at baby shower mrsbrismile Glad the meeting went well with HR too. They're looking for a new head in my school so replacing me for a bit is understandably a lower priority! Trying to find my own cover at the moment to avoid the awful one we had last time. Looking promising so far and fingers are crossed!

Thanks for recommendation Rue- will definitely be going with them ready in hospital bag this time in case, those and lansinoh cream(DH had to go hunting for it and drop it bk after visiting hours last time bless him.

No swelling here so far and have fingers firmly crossed that it stays that way!

I've had quite a productive day trying to sort my clothes and room out. Did loads but it somehow looks just the same as when I started!

DontmindifIdo Sat 23-Mar-13 18:38:18

Binky - topshop are pretty good on oxford street, and mamas and papas are there too. However, most of my new stuff has been internet ordered then you can normally return to stores even if that store doesn't do maternity range.

MrsBri - on the bright side, you can only be blamed for mistakes for the first few months, IME, a year off means that they can't keep blaming you when it all goes very wrong...

AmIGoingMad Sat 23-Mar-13 18:38:45

Oh and good luck with scan tomrw!

X post redwelly - I hope she gets better soon

DontmindifIdo Sat 23-Mar-13 18:43:07

Pink - check you are allowed to use said hot tub! Most say no pregnant woman, check with midwife before you book.

I'm having none of it that big babies are easier to birth, you have to push them out! My friends who had the most damage and the longest recovery last time round all had v big babies.

got talking to a midwife friend who's on mat leave herself earlier in the week, think without meaning too, she's made my mind up I want a c section, I'd blocked a lot of it out but she's really brought the sheer terror and pain memories back. Was interesting talking to her about home births, seems the further you live away from the hospital, the earlier they call 999.

Sarah2506 Sat 23-Mar-13 18:50:02

Why why why did we have football tickets for this weekend?! I wore leggings, jeans, walking boots and socks, vest, top, polo neck, shawl, football scarf, winter coat. And I still froze! Very glam in league 2- snow driving in towards us, shelter not doing its job. I wouldn't recommend it!

Pink - where is this place, I want to go!

Would like to recommend Baby Bay, such a lovely company to deal with and we LOVE the Babybay! Anyone else got one? Snow permitting we are off to get the final big bits tomorrow - microwave, tumble dryer, cot bed.

pinkapples Sat 23-Mar-13 19:01:17

Hmm i am checking for a temperature controlled one that we can set just in case but I read they are fine after 16 weeks when spine is formed grin

Haven't found anywhere yet there's a couple of places in forest of dean and Somerset but a bit pricey would quite like April sometime as don't want to go into labour away from home

My scan is on the second of April so excited you'll have to let us know how yours goes x

SunnyL Sat 23-Mar-13 19:06:14

Arg this indigestion is causing havoc with my eating habits. I always seem to get it just before dinner so I'm eating later and later each evening.

We've got our last getaway before baby booked. We're off for a week on Barra in a couple of weeks time. Gutted i can't go kayaking but hopeful i can still cycle round the island. I'm told the home baking though at the airport cafe is worth the 5 hour ferry in itself.

Had to ask my mum and DHs mum how heavy we were after hearing about friends 10lb whopper. DH was 6lb4 which would be good. Unfortunately i was 8lb12 which is less preferable. Is it hereditary?

redwellybluewelly Sat 23-Mar-13 19:16:52

You mightrbe having none of it but ive heard it said by many. FwIW the people I know with the most 'damage' after have pretty much all had 6-8lb babies. Its all subjective anyway and having had a second degree tear after a small baby and no sleep in 48hours I was still running the next day.

I don't recommend the running.

We've next got a scan at 34weeks, so 5 weeks to go. Can't remember the exact date though.

Having roast for dinner, lying in the bath watching baby wriggle while I try not to think about the night ahead.

We used Avent nipple shields, and also used a cold water steriliser. Can highly recommend it as its so useful for all baby things not just bottles and we still occasionally use the milton fluid now. V cheap.

forgetmenots Sat 23-Mar-13 20:18:43

Lucky you Sunny, Barra is paradise smile

Binkybix Sat 23-Mar-13 20:39:26

oooh good point on returning to normal shop...right, internet shopping it is tomorrow.

Made the mistake of looking at Blackberry tonight. Am an idiot and now not enjoying my lovely cosy night in any more. DH reading out possible baby names trying to soothe me..Araminta anyone?!!

I just can't think of the birth yet. One thing at a time!

Binkybix Sat 23-Mar-13 20:40:05

ps where is Barra?

pinkbear82 Sat 23-Mar-13 21:05:49

Evening all.

It sounds like you've all had a far more productive day than me. It was decided by dsc this morning today was to be a pj and film day!
Duvets on the sofa, films a plenty and lots of snuggles. Even DP and pets joined in.
Feel quite nicely recharged now - bath before bed and I think I'll be done.

Glad others are finding over the bump jeans soo comfy, I love mine. DP says they are to prevent any further babies being made especially with maternity bras as well..... I could live with that they are so amazing!

Redwelly hope it's not too bad a night for you. Or that you at least manage enough sleep on top of it all.

Jealous of all the talk of getting away. Would love to have even a weekend away but can't see it happening.

Right off for that bath - sleep well everyone

redwellybluewelly Sat 23-Mar-13 21:15:47

Re maternity clothes - I have no shops at all that have a maternity range near me - its been JJMB all the way.

forgetmenots Sat 23-Mar-13 21:20:12

Binky - Barra is in the most southern of the Outer Hebrides, it's stunning: www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2011/sep/05/barra-scotland-airport-on-beach

Hope the names are soothing you and not making your blood boil grin

forgetmenots Sat 23-Mar-13 21:20:31
Olimoss Sat 23-Mar-13 22:22:12

Ciao everyone - weather-willing we fly out early tomorrow morning to Rome where, although not toasty, the weather shall seem so in comparison to the current British misery.

I literally cannot stop belching. I pity those near me on the plane. Also, what if the seatbelt won't fit?!?!

(re: scans we are booking a 32 week well being scan at the Foetal Medicine Centre - curiosity and peace of mind reasons...).

I shall drop in from Italy but till then everyone stay well and sleep deeply.



SunnyL Sat 23-Mar-13 22:58:41

Olimoss sounds like indigestion. Time to reach for the Gaviscon methinks.

Ok so who's idea was it to put The Time Travellers wife on telly? Just bawled my eyes out to it. Daft moo. Must go find the dog for a cuddle since DH is on night shift.

learnermummy Sun 24-Mar-13 07:36:57

Hi all gosh what a lot to catch up on.
Want to add that bigger babies not necessarily more trouble - my DS1 only 7 pounds but back to back and ended up with long labour and third degree tear. Ds2 9 pounds 7oz born v easily and quickly at home, no stitches.
I was a fan of nursing tops, more the cross over type as less fabric to gather up iyswim. H&M v cheap for them though. Apron style covers also good though- the ones with boning in so you can see down. Think bebe au lait is a brand name of them, but much cheaper versions on eBay.
Off to christening today which should be nice. Hope roads aren't too bad.

DontmindifIdo Sun 24-Mar-13 11:53:18

Sunny - I can beat that, I cried last night when a taxi driver won a trip to Vegas on Ant & Dec's programme.

Olimoss - I have seen some of the rather 'rubenesque' people getting on flights before now, don't worry, an otherwise normal sized woman with a baby bump will fit in the seatbelt!

I got no sleep last night, bump kicking, odd dreams, DS having nightmares, it was horrid. Thankfully have a day off tomorrow, although I have to take DS to nursery anyway. Might come back and sleep...

Just been to church, it was communion service, has anyone else found communion wine really sets of the indigestion?!? (That and kneeing down with a dodgy hip with half the church watching me and then trying to get back up in an elegant, respectful fashion without letting out any groaning sounds being tricky.)

cyclecamper Sun 24-Mar-13 11:58:45

Ooh, Barra and Rome both sound nice right now! We are camping near Ross on Wye next weekend so that will be a nice break. I hope it stops snowing before Friday - I love camping in the snow, but we've hired a car and I won't drive in it confused.

Oli I have been burping constantly for the last 2 months! Along with the tickly cough and the farting, this baby is going to arrive with it's hands over it's ears!

I'm glad I'm seeing the midwife on Wednesday, the top of my bump feels as though I've pulled a muscle or torn something.

Sarah2506 Sun 24-Mar-13 12:48:11

Examining body and bump. I have no stretch marks as yet. Does anyone else? I expected loads as I got quite a few on my boobs when they first grew! Boobs are super size. The bras I bought around 16 weeks are too small but I am reluctant to buy more now. When it comes to nursing can they kind of predict what size you might need after milk comes in? I cannot go to M&S 4 days post section just for that! The rest of my body is a bit yuck. I have the chunky thighs and back fat I fought to lose when we got married. But no varicose veins yet either, and my mum and gran were both destroyed by them! Anyone got them?

MrsBri Sun 24-Mar-13 13:07:55

I like the idea of holidays and breaks away...I keep an eye on Lake District hotels and may book something if I can get a good deal.

Not sure about camping in winter, though DH would be up for it!

We've been trying to film bump movement today. Baby B seems to know what we are doing and stops his acrobatics when we try!

Sarah, no stretch marks here yet. I'm not going to assume they won't come though.

As for bras, I was told to go back a few weeks before birth for a re-fit for nursing bras. Mine aren't too bad for now, though I'm on the loosest fitting now, rather than the tightest.

I'm struggling with more, umm, solid thighs, it has to be said, as well.

pinkapples Sun 24-Mar-13 13:39:12

So jealous as stretch marks have set in here both sides of my tummy but not all the way round and they are relatively pink (not bright red or purple that I was taught to expect) obviously they may get worse but as yet they are bearable

pinkbear82 Sun 24-Mar-13 13:47:45

Haven't noticed any stretch marks yet.... Altho did notice very vainy boobs last night!
Think my thighs are starting to expand - getting my just washed maternity jeans on this morning required more of a wiggle dance than I remember previously. Sent a wave of panic over me. Didn't help with the 'I feel huge' feeling I was having.

Think I was told from 38 weeks on is a good time for nursing bras to be fitted.

forgetmenots Sun 24-Mar-13 14:33:35

No stretch marks (copious amounts of lovely Clarins cream being slathered on every night). But I do have weird pigment changes on my boobs, looks like I've had a reverse tan - nicely brown boobs and milk bottle everywhere else!

Hawkmoth Sun 24-Mar-13 15:13:04

I have no new stretch marks. There is nothing left unstretched.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 24-Mar-13 16:25:28

Stretch marks here but only on the underside of my belly so I actually can't see them

MrsBri Sun 24-Mar-13 16:28:19

Which means they don't exist, Sparkle! :-)

Binkybix Sun 24-Mar-13 16:35:48

I don't seem to have any stretch marks yet....but there's plenty of time still!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 24-Mar-13 16:36:12

That's what I was thinking bri smile

Olimoss Sun 24-Mar-13 17:38:36

A quick buono notte from Roma where I've been walking around in short sleeves & loving it, but also walking around with Braxton Hicks. Not loving that so much....hurts.

Stay warm you all back in the UK!

AmIGoingMad Sun 24-Mar-13 18:50:25

Oo Rome! I'm jealous but also happy for you that you're getting a trip awaysmile

No new stretch marks here so far. Fingers are crossed that none appear but I'm not that optimistic ha!

arlandria666 Sun 24-Mar-13 18:56:55

absolutely loved my scan it was amazing and i was sobbing got some brilliant photos and at one point he stuck two fingers up ha ha! proper little chubby face:-D watched the dvd 4 times already best money i have spent xxxx
now just need to focus on the next ten weeks and get organised can't believe how quickly its going x x

forgetmenots Sun 24-Mar-13 18:59:49

Arlandria that's lovely smile glad it was such a nice experience!

redwellybluewelly Sun 24-Mar-13 19:00:21

I didn't get any stretch mqrks until about eight months last time. Was very upset when I looked under bump to see them appearing. This time they've come straight back.

Mine were unnoticeable within 18months. I was a bit over zealous with bio oil though. This time haven't worried, I was never a bikini lass anyway!

Definitely overdid it yesterday, exhausted today.

Arlandria how exciting? Where did you go? I'm still debating whether to have one or not!
Oil I'm very jealous. We went to Rome nearly 6 years ago and loved it!
No stretch marks here (that I can see). Bump is sore tonight at the top and round by my belly button. Going to watch corrie then bed me thinks.

arlandria666 Sun 24-Mar-13 19:53:06

i went to window to the womb i am from nottingham it was lovely and the staff were so nice you can take up to five people not including yourself and partner my mother in law and teenage niece and husband came. we got a dvd of the scan 3 key rings 5 pictures printed out and a disc with 36 photos on x x

MrsBri Sun 24-Mar-13 19:56:13

Littlemiss, my belly button has popped a bit today and is sore too :-( Odd feeling, isn't it?

Baby B is still bouncing round inside. Surely he will sleep soon?!

MrsBri Sun 24-Mar-13 19:57:36

And that sounds amazing, Arlandria :-) So lovely.

I'm resisting a scan so far, but we shall see!

arlandria666 Sun 24-Mar-13 20:01:20

Mrsbri i have been umming and aaaring right from early sexing scan at 16 weeks lol talked myself in and out of it so many times lol i only booked it Thursday x x its weird when he is kicking about that i know what he looks like :-D so much in love already x x x

arlandria666 Sun 24-Mar-13 20:02:14

i didn't have an early sexing scan i just meant i have been thinking about it since then x x

Sounds lovely. I've been recommended them (also from Nottingham area!!) very tempting!

Mrs Bri it is very odd. My belly button keeps going in and out at the minute each day is different, very weird.
Bump likes to be active when I want sleep too, they must know!

learnermummy Sun 24-Mar-13 20:33:21

Sounds great arlandria, i've just booked a 4D scan at Peterborough babybond for next saturday. Excuse is to involve the kids a bit more, but really I just want another peek and a gender check smile.

maisiebeem Sun 24-Mar-13 20:39:52

Can't believe we are already another week closer! Still soo much to do!
I have been feeling very strange todo. Little one has been very very wriggly, but I have also been in a lot of pain. At first I thought it was wind, but it hasn't stopped. The pain come and goes, it's a sharp pain in my back and the top part of my bump/ lower lungs! Has anyone had anything similar? I haven't had heart burn yet, could this be that?
As for stretch marks, incredibly annoyed that I have some! Ever since we found out I was pregnant I haven't stopped moisturising! And have been drinking water religiously- plus my stomach was big enough to begin with! Grr!

MrsBri Mon 25-Mar-13 07:01:23

I don't know what that is Maisie. I hope you get a solution for it soon though.

Feeling ok about work today...helped by only having a 3 day week for the next 2 weeks :-) Makes things feel loads better. Though my workload may be hideous when I get back, but as I'll be starting my work handover, then maybe not. We shall see!

28 week midwife appt today, so I get to leave work early too. Even better!

Hope everyone is OK today.

Morning all. Maisie I don't think you get back pain with heartburn but I've not had it yet so not sure. Maybe give your mw a call later?
3 day week for me too which I'm so glad about. I really am ready to finish now.
Anyone still got snow? I'm working from home as not driving in this.

ChicaT Mon 25-Mar-13 14:01:35

Hi Maisiebeem, I'm typing from bed today as the pain's so bad! Last night i had excruciating indigestion/trapped wind (that'll be the last baked beans i have for a while then!) and today i have what i think is ligament pain but my God it hurts when i move or stand up. I don't think there's any point in going to the maternity ward to have it checked out - i reckon as i don't have a fever or bleeding and baby is kicking away they'll probably come to the same conclusion - that it's ligament pain. Also the half hour car journey to get there sounds like a bit much when I feel so rotten. If it still persists tonight/tomorrow I'll go. I also have a cold so feel very disinclined to go anywhere!

ChicaT Mon 25-Mar-13 14:04:14

PS also I'm pretty sure this pain isn't from contractions, and I have some back pain too - pain from your front can often translate to pain in your back. But if you are the slightest bit worried, get yourself to your maternity ward and have it looked into.

Sunbeam18 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:44:55

Chica, do you have SPD? Sounds similar to my pelvic pain - hard to move sometimes.

Knomski Mon 25-Mar-13 15:00:34

Hi all, I'm due June 29th with my 3rd dc. Would love to join your thread and hear your experiences.... Also to have a place to moan about pregnancy gripes! smile

LouGlasgow Mon 25-Mar-13 15:25:47

Hi All, Another late joiner! Due 23rd June. First pregnancy but have a 2 3/4 year old DS already (DP gave birth to DS). We're expecting a girl this time smile Just had a 3D/4D scan at weekend - truly magical! Watched it over so many times. She was folded up with feet up at her face trying to lick her shins lol and suck her hands. So lovely to see whats going on inside there. Had stressful 1st trimester with a lot of bleeding, relaxed 2nd trimester and now beginning to feel more and more pregnant as I hit the 3rd. Lots of lovely bloating, gass, heartburn, leg cramps etc. Great reading everyone else's stories on here knowing I'm in good company!! Loving it all tho and can't wait to meet our gorgeous wee girl!!

LouGlasgow Mon 25-Mar-13 16:06:52

Ps skimmed the posts and noticed Gina was asking for tips with spotty skin. Despite nearly being 33 I still get plagued by acne and normally take antibiotics to keep my skin at bay. I gave them up as soon as we started trying and now swear by bare minerals blemish remedy - put a dusting on my oily spot prone zones every morning and if I get a spot I put extra on before bed. My skin has never been better. I also use bare minerals deep cleansing foam which I think really helps with my skin too. Been worth the outlay too as the cleansing foam lasts about 9 months and the powder 4 months smile So glad I discovered them - hope they might be helpful for you too :D

pinkbear82 Mon 25-Mar-13 17:24:17

Welcome ladies! All the more tips and stories to share smile

I have had a real can not be arsed day. I really have not done much. Gearing myself up to do a water change on fish tank as DSD decided putting half a pot of food in was helpful - was surprised they survived the night to be honest.

Hope everyone else has had an ok Monday!

suzyrut Mon 25-Mar-13 17:35:02

Hi everyone hope you're all ok. I've not checked in for a while as I've been in hospital with my blood pressure. Long story short I've been put on tablets and signed off work until i start maternity leave which i'll take from 36 weeks if i'm not induced earlier. can't quite get my head around the fact that I won't be going back till 2014! Tablets are making me feel very sleepy and a bit odd but quite a relief to know everything's back under control and to get out hospital, made me go a bit stir crazy but was a good practice run out for my hospital bag!

Hope the third trimester's treating everyone kindly xxxx

Welcome newbies!
Sorry to hear you have not been well Suzie but at least it's being treated. Fingers crossed bambino stays put for a few more weeks yet.

MrsBri Mon 25-Mar-13 19:04:55

Hello to the newbies :-)

And I'm glad you're feeling better and you're back at home, Suzy. It must have been stressful for you. Here's hoping baby stays put for a good while longer.

I had my 28 week appt today. A bit early due to the bank holiday, but never mind.

DH came along as he was going to pick me up anyway, so I asked him to join me so he could hear the heartbeat again :-) He actually knew the midwife, which is more than I did!

Baby is sitting on the right, as I knew, and bump is measuring a week or so ahead, which isn't bad, considering my size!

Quite straight forward again, really.

So glad I'm having a break from work over Easter as my lazy, shit, colleagues are doing my head in. Why do something properly when you can do a half-arsed job of it?! :-/

Littlemiss, no snow here now. It's all gone! The up side of being on the west coast.

Had to buy some cute deerstalker hats from John Lewis today, 5 quid each in the sale. Had to buy for both sexes though as we are team yellow! Sure we will find someone to donate to once we find out :-)

pinkapples Mon 25-Mar-13 19:38:16

My sister is throwing me a baby shower on the 12th April and the games came today through the post woohoo! So tempted to look up the answers but I won't grin

Well don't on the buys at John Lewis we don't have one of those near us

Sunbeam18 Mon 25-Mar-13 21:11:20

Hope you are feeling better, Suzy. That sounds like an awful experience.
We finally managed to order our pram and car seat today - had been trying to order last week and the one I wanted looked to have been discontinued. Panic as had set my heart on it! Found some stock online at Kiddie Kingdom today - yay. It's a Jane Slalom Reverse.
How many clothes are you all buying for your babies before the birth? How many newborn vests, suits, cardies; and how many 0-3 months? I have no idea, but don't have much yet. Xxx

MrsBri Mon 25-Mar-13 21:30:08

Well done on getting the pram, Sunbeam :-)

I'm getting 7 or 8 vests / sleepsuits etc, I think. I'm sure we will have stuff bought for us once baby is here, so don't want to go overboard!

pinkapples Mon 25-Mar-13 21:34:37

I haven't bought much sunbeam like mrsbri said maybe 7/8 suits although hard to know with the weather what's best at this rate may need a snowsuit grin

Glad you managed to get what you wanted in terms of shopping as well sunbeam gringrin

Mawgatron Mon 25-Mar-13 21:39:21

Hi all, and welcome new ladies!
3days to go until the school holidays, hoorah! Glad everyone seems to be feeling a bit better and brighter now.

Having a pram dilemma. Was set on an uppababy vista, but hubby's mum saw an icandy something in john Lewis and said it looked amazing. Anyone got any experience with either of these? Luckily parents on each side are chipping in about £300 each, and we can put in the extra so we have a pretty decent budget. I know the uppababy is a great all rounder, but i think the icandy might be a bit more stylish. What do you guys think?

Sunbeam18 Mon 25-Mar-13 21:46:58

Thanks! 7 or 8 is probably about right as know we will all get lots of pressies once they arrive. I wish I knew what size he was going to be! Though if he is big then guess I don't want to know in advance for labour fears!!!
Where do you recommend for cute outfits? There is some lovely stuff on Mamas and Papas website on sale (until Monday); I'm loading up a basket smile

Sunbeam18 Mon 25-Mar-13 21:50:34

Maw, my friend had an iCandy cherry and loved it. Its pretty cool. I have also heard the Peach recommended. Don't know much about Uppababy other than they are also classy-looking prams. There might be some threads devoted to this on here?

MrsBri Mon 25-Mar-13 21:58:07

Ooh...I've not looked at Mamas and Papas yet. I've mostly gone for plain cream or cute unisex designs from Asda.

I've ordered some hungry caterpillar short sleeved vests too, and some plain block bright colour ones from John Lewis.

I'm getting the same amount of newborn and 0-3 month clothes, to be on the safe side.

Sunbeam18 Mon 25-Mar-13 22:10:29

Haven't looked at Asda - will add to my list! Think someone said Next had some good stuff too!

Maw DH and I have ordered an iCandy peach. Tbh it was the only one we both really liked. It's sturdy and moves so easily with a good basket and important to us was adjustable handle bar as DH is nearly a foot taller than me! We got carrycot for 0-6 months then pushchair think it came to 750. They also do a cherry (cheaper and lighter), strawberry (has memory fold) and apple. Really personal preference which one you prefer but I heard prices go up in April (for most prams after Harrogate fair) so I would decide pretty quickly.
I've bought too many sleep suits mix of newborn and upto 1 month (approx 15) but not going to go mad with outfits in first couple of weeks so figured that allows for a few changes over a few days. Got 2 cardis and a pack of vests. Need more vests but not going to buy any other clothes wait and see what we get. Not sure whether I should get a little coat or pram suit. I'm hoping being June we won't even need the cardi!

Sunbeam I have been looking in next, mothercare, mamas and papas and Sainsburys pretty good too. Debenhams have loads of cute things online.
I don't need to buy anymore but I can't believe how much stuff is on eBay.

redwellybluewelly Mon 25-Mar-13 22:19:13

Suzy I hope you are resting and baby stays put

I'm struggling with finding maternity nightwear, my current PJ bottoms were primark cheapies and have literally fallen apart. Bump is so low that no 'normal' pjs will fit. And JJMB where I've got most of my things from has rhe most laughable selection ever! Who wants pale maternity nightwear? !?!?!??!?!

Sunbeam18 Mon 25-Mar-13 22:28:46

Think you are right about harrowgate pram fair - they bring out new year stock at this event apparently and discontinue last year's stock. So prob best to order soon.

Red have you looked in mothercare or mamas and papas?
I got some for Xmas from mothercare which are low for under bump and very comfy. Seen some lovely ones in m+p last week but none of them were too dark. Figured comfort is higher priority at the minute!

learnermummy Mon 25-Mar-13 22:55:00

Hi all and welcome newbies.
Suffering with a cough and sore throat here and keep losing my voice . Bump sore from all the coughing. To add insult to injury I have my GTT tomorrow so have started fasting and will have to survive night without lockets. It's going to be a long night!
Red - I'm mainly wearing some cheap tesco pjs that I bought a few sizes too big. Also have seen some m&s pjs in a maroon colour.
Am still in denial over prams as really don't want to spend the kind of money people are talking about! Hoping to borrow from a friend but not sure when I'll see her!!

MrsBri Mon 25-Mar-13 23:01:21

And I've just discovered that Tesco has a really good range of vests / sleepsuits etc too, and just ordered a load more stuff in 0-3 and 3-6 months :-)

Feel like I'm getting there now. Bloody good job too, as I've spent an absolute fortune this month. And I'll only have to pay it off in April and May :-/

AlohaMama Tue 26-Mar-13 02:19:48

Hi all and welcome newbies! As usual so much to catch up on. Lots of shopping going on it sounds like.

Am feeling shattered after only 1 day of having visitors - dh sister and family (3 kids) arrived last night and they're here for 2 1/2 weeks. I'd forgotten how noisy children are, compared to the quiet of just our one ds. Have also realised I'm going to need to take it easier as after lots of running around, and looking after people I have back ache and bump ache, and would you believe it, housemaids knee.

On the plus side, we'll be going for our last pre-baby getaway next week, which while not exactly relaxing (as it'll be us 3 plus our visitors) will be nice to have a break from work. Work is looking like it's going to be horribly busy till I go on mat leave so my dreams of frittering away the time online shopping and mnetting have just been dashed sad

SunnyL Tue 26-Mar-13 03:28:28

Urg just woken up from a very very vivid dream. Now trying to keep myself from falling back asleep as i may throttle DH in my sleep if i go back into that dream. Dreamt that he told me he was leaving me for a job in northern ireland and there just wasnt room for us in his life anymore. Phew - the things your unconcious does to you when you are feeling vulnerable. Very very tempted to wake him up to tell him how horrible he was in my dream. Definately not rational but i've got a bloody good excuse for being mad havent i???

SunnyL Tue 26-Mar-13 03:28:58

P.s. Hello all newbies!

Sarah2506 Tue 26-Mar-13 05:17:46

Urgh cant sleep. Second night in a row. Wish Valium or gin were acceptable in pregnancy! Have weird sex dreams about boss when am asleep. Not helpful:-) tomorrow is going to be a horror day....

AlohaMama Tue 26-Mar-13 06:40:58

Ooh dear sarah, those are not good dreams. Hope you manage to get some sleep and wipe it all from your memory!

Morning all!
I don't have weird dreams, just have a rubbish sleep. Think I'm getting DHs cold which doesn't help when I can't breathe anyway!
Hope you all have a good day

Meant to add Sainsburys have 25% off clothing starting today and 1/3 off loads of baby toiletries inc nappies, breast pads etc so worth a visit if your near one

MrsBri Tue 26-Mar-13 07:41:57

Oh dear, Sarah, that's not good. Glad I don't have that problem!! Mind bleach required.

Quite a few of the supermarkets have good deals on baby things at the moment. Asda sells Pampers in big boxes for about 12p a nappy, which is the best price I've come across.

My local Sainsbury doesn't stock clothes, sadly. :-/

I'm still glad I looked at the Tesco baby wear though, as their unisex stuff is more fun than other shops have.

learnermummy Tue 26-Mar-13 09:11:21

Yuck having to drink huge glass of lucozade in 5 mins on empty stomach is not nice! Now to sit and wait for 2 hrs in waiting room, have brought my baby cross stitch to do smile.

redwellybluewelly Tue 26-Mar-13 10:06:25

MrsBri I remember when I was getting clothes for DD I got some Tesco vests and they were great, but they were also HUGE! If you have any sleepsuits from other stores (even if you return them) compare the Tesco's 0-3 to other brands or newborn, they may have changed sizing in the last 3 years but DD was 7lbs and they were about 2inches too big all round and she was a long baby. Wanted to save your DH having to go out in a hurry.

Will check out the Mothercare PJs, comfort is certainly the higher priority right now but I also don't have the £ to buy more when I've had baby, and with a CS scar and the usual lochia I'm thinking dark PJs will be less embarrassing. DH has already come up with a plan to protect the sofa (where I will be spending much of my first week at home!).

learnermummy I hope the sugar crash isn't too bad and you can have a nice brew soon

LouGlasgow Tue 26-Mar-13 11:19:01

I found the opposite with Tesco sleep suits (DS will be 3 end of June). They were always smaller than next & mother care. Found John Lewis the biggest. Liked having different brands to bridge the gaps in size smile Babygrows look so tiny and cute now - still can't get my head round the fact we'll have a tiny newborn soon!! My MIL has gone mad buying girl things as its her first granddaughter. Luckily we have similar tastes smile

learnermummy Tue 26-Mar-13 11:32:28

GTT all done now and enjoying cuppa and a muffin grin. Wasn't too bad actually and quite nice to be forced to sit still for 2 hrs!

MrsBri Tue 26-Mar-13 12:04:15

Ta for the heads up, redwelly...our newborn stuff is Asda, our 0-3 is Tesco. We shall see how it goes!

I have some absorbent pads for sitting on. Glamorous!

redwellybluewelly Tue 26-Mar-13 12:46:01

Those absorbent pads (the big ones) can come in handy in the car and in a bed when potty training so if you do have any left over put them in a bottom drawer somewhere smile

learnermummy Tue 26-Mar-13 14:46:38

Yes, those absorbent pads are also good under the sheet of the cot/crib to catch any vomit or nappy leakage! Must get some...

DontmindifIdo Tue 26-Mar-13 15:11:24

oh god those absorbent pads (adds to list) also good for putting under the sheets in bed, a lot of woman's waters go in bed, so you could ruin an otherwise perfectly good matress if you aren't careful...

Tesco stuff is big, but be careful about tumble drying it, it tends to shrink.

Thanks for the Sainsburys tip, any idea how long that's on for? won't get there tonight...

Saku Tue 26-Mar-13 16:52:13

I am 27 weeks.. any one with same.. hmm

Citybaby Tue 26-Mar-13 17:57:26

Oh where do you get the absorbent pads from please? Everyone I know waters broke in bed and I love my mattress too much!

Roll on the long weekend! Xxx

MrsBri Tue 26-Mar-13 18:03:13

I got mine from Boots. Only got one pack for now. May look for them somewhere else where they may be cheaper! :-)

pinkbear82 Tue 26-Mar-13 18:11:46

Ah good idea with the absorbent pads - we had to use them with dsc when she was going thru a bed wetting stage and they were a godsend!

I shall add them on to my (yet to be made) list of things I need to get.

Don't mind think it ends next couple of days, might be tomorrow for nappies etc. There clothes offer ends Monday.
City- boots have an incontinence section so will find some there. I walked passed it the other day. Or puppy training mats will do same thing.

pinkapples Tue 26-Mar-13 18:27:30

Oh I hadn't thought about waters breaking in bed blush just bought a 2000 pound new mattress so thinking will need to protect that just in case where will I get one from that big(kingsize) and when is everyone going to lay them? What if baby comes early

learnermummy Tue 26-Mar-13 18:42:31

pinkapples, the absorbent mats aren't as big as the whole bed, so you just put them under your sheet on your side. If you want to really protect the whole bed you'd need a waterproof mattress protector. Only problem with those is they can make you a bit sweaty I think.

redwellybluewelly Tue 26-Mar-13 19:05:04

We have mattress protectors on both the double and king size beds. They've saved the mattress from many indignities, all I hasten to add caused by DD! Early days of BFing I leaked constantly, especially during feeds, nappy leaks, sickness, then the D&V bugs etc. We coslept pretty much from getting home so our mattresses had to put up with a LOT!

redwellybluewelly Tue 26-Mar-13 19:06:20

Oh and I got one from blooming marvellous prior to it shutting down and another from dunelm mill. Cheapish and brilliant, wash and dry easily and not noticed any sweatiness as yet lol

pinkapples Tue 26-Mar-13 19:28:55

Anyone planning on watching one born every minute this week?

MrsBri Tue 26-Mar-13 20:14:33

Littlemiss, it is tomorrow for nappies...we just did a dash to Sainsbury's and bought another 242 nappies using mostly our 25 quid of Nectar points we had saved for the purpose!

We must have well over 1000 nappies now, I'd have thought :-)

redwellybluewelly Tue 26-Mar-13 20:48:43

OBEM this week has a baby pass away, so be warned it might be very very sad.

I've just written my hospital bag list, anyone want to play swopsies tomorrow if I post it? Reckon we can figure out amongst us a good list. Also starting a list on what food to get in so I can set up an online order as well as the few bits n pieces we need for #2.

MrsBri Tue 26-Mar-13 20:54:44

That's why I won't watch OBEM, redwelly...not keen on seeing stuff like that at all. Not something I want to think about right now. Or ever, particularly.

I'm going to pack my bag on Thursday, I think. No list written yet though!

redwellybluewelly Tue 26-Mar-13 21:01:19

I haven't watched it since the week before I had my DD, won't even watch an advert.

DH being surprisingly helpful re organising a list of food to eat

Mawgatron Tue 26-Mar-13 21:14:28

Still need to write a list for hospital. Knowing me it will be RIDICULOUS! Went to a festival last year and pretty muh took the entire world with me. I only live round the corner from the hospital and plan on mum and DH being with me so if I am desperate I can send one of them off for whatever I have forgotten.

One born will be sad, but just read up about it, baby had an issue that was raised at the 20 week scan, so I may watch it (if I am back from parents evening by then). It would make me more stressed if it was something that didn't come to light until after birth (ie, might happen to us). Obviously I am not naive enough to think that everything will def be ok, but I want to be as positive as poss! Do love watching it though.

Anyone else feeling impatient? Want him here NOW! DH is hoping for as long a wait as possible, but I want to experience it all as soon as poss (prob because i have no clue what i am in for). The anticipation is driving me a little bit potty. Only 11 and a bit weeks to go...

redwellybluewelly Tue 26-Mar-13 21:25:49

I've ten weeks to go. And nine until I finish work! Although baby will be here at 39weeks.

I don't watch OBEM on principle, there are a lot of issues in the maternity provision and I feel it doesn't raise awareness or help solve those. We did have an issue which was caused by negligence in delivery, had we just been a bit more confident and demanded a second opinion we wouldn't have spent two weeks in NICU. I think speaking up about stillbirth and neonatal death is important because its now completely taboo in our society and I applaud the parents who have done so this week.

I think this has been the first day where I want baby here rather than in my ribs! I now feel pregnant and huge.

redwellybluewelly Tue 26-Mar-13 21:27:15

Oh and I have list for my bag, babies bag, bag of spares in car and extras at home.

Me going into hospital needs to be planned with military precision round here.

Mrs Bri how many of what size have you got?
We now have 50x size 1 and 50x size 2. While they have 1/3 off i'm debating buying more size 2 or sone size 3.
Not sure yet if I'll watch obem.

redwellybluewelly Tue 26-Mar-13 22:18:12

Certainly used to be the case that supermarkets would exchange unopened packs of nappies for bigger sizes?

When I said 50 I meant 50 nappies, not packs btw!

MrsBri Tue 26-Mar-13 23:34:35

I've got almost half and half 1 and 2 with 180 3 as of this evening as there weren't many 2s left.

pinkapples Wed 27-Mar-13 06:56:05

Oh my goodness can't believe you've all started getting nappies etc think I need to start then

learnermummy Wed 27-Mar-13 07:19:56

I have only 2 packs Pink, and only because I wanted to bulk out my mothercare order to get free delivery smile.
You might want to experiment with different brands once baby's here to find out what you like best/ what is best fit on baby/ what suits their skin best.

MrsBri Wed 27-Mar-13 07:27:48

Oh dear...I was awake at 4 goading Baby B into moving as he had a quiet night last night! Good news is that it worked :-) Poor baby though.

If he's quiet today I'll drink a sugar laden drink! Though he's probably exhausted after his utterly manic weekend and Monday, and catching up on rest and therefore won't thank me. Oops.

I'm just stocking up on essentials while I'm on full salary so I don't have to spend too much of my maternity money on stuff. Our cupboards are bursting in the nursery!

cyclecamper Wed 27-Mar-13 07:47:12

So far I only have spare disposables that were given me- mostly size 3 but a few size 1s. I have a lot of washables though. I'll buy a packet of small disposables closer to the time, when there is a clue about how big the baby is going to be. No point spending money and filling the house with size one if it is 10lbs and goes straight in size 3!

I've started packing a hospital bag-I need to think about what I really need as we don't have a car that I can leave things in. I think I will pack assuming that I will be straight out and leave a bag at home with stuff for longer if necessary.

Midwife this afternoon:-).

MrsBri Wed 27-Mar-13 08:07:13

My nephew was 9lb 14oz and was in size 2 for a while, my sister tells me.

And I'm still hoping shops will swap nappies anyway!

pinkapples Wed 27-Mar-13 08:31:31

Just phoned the midwife to let her know I've been exposed to chicken pox (nursery life I guess) so have to get a blood test today to check immunity happy days!

Will I need a receipt to exchange nappy size?
While the offer is on I might get another couple of packs today.
Also got the mw today. Not sure what to expect at 28 wk appt, is it blood tests today? Also getting my whooping cough jab. Hopefully mw can tell me what position this lo is.
P.s today is my Friday woohoo!!!

Forgot to ask I need mw advice. After today my next mw appt was meant to be at 31 weeks but due to work commitments I was booked for 32 weeks instead. She left a message yesterday saying she needs to change it as booking some days off so she can see me week after instead (33weeks). My appt after that is 34 weeks. Should I try to see if another mw can see me or do you think I will be ok with no appt between 28-33 weeks. I thought if nice guidelines say 28,31,34 then there must be a reason?!

MrsBri Wed 27-Mar-13 09:11:17

My midwife said that it is fine if everything is straight forward, as the bank holidays screw mine up. Said they would arrange to see you sooner if any inkling of an issue.

Not sure about the receipt. I'm trying to keep them just in case.

Today is my Friday too :-)

SunnyL Wed 27-Mar-13 09:13:03

MrsBri - our bubs must be getting really hacked off with me and DH too cos we give it a poke when watching telly so we can watch it squirm. I'm sure it will give us full payback when 13 though!

Littlemiss I've moved round MW appointments for work and holiday commitments. If you are in the low risk category then it really isn't that big a deal.

And yes 28 weeks is bloods again. Got mine taken 12 days ago and still have the bruises to show for it. Don't worry though - its just cos I've got crap veins.

Thank you that's good to know. I'm guessing if anything shows up after blood tests taken today she will call.

P.s. sunny I have crap veins too. They can never find them!!

learnermummy Wed 27-Mar-13 10:35:17

Yesterday I had to have four vials of blood taken, and my anti-D injection - really felt like a pin cushion! No call from the hospital yet so hopefully GTT is all clear.

SunnyL Wed 27-Mar-13 11:05:12

Learner - they could only take 2 vials from me before my veins gave up. They had to pull the tops off and pour blood between the 4 vials. I promised not to tell the Health and Safety Executive. Its a good thing I'm never allowed to give blood (too many trips to dodgy malaria countries) - it would take an age for me to give someone a pint.

learnermummy Wed 27-Mar-13 11:11:35

Oh dear sunny sounds awful. My veins are usually hard to find when not pregnant, but when pregnant they don't seem to have a problem thankfully!

MrsBri Wed 27-Mar-13 12:24:00

No problem with my veins, but only one vial taken from me on Monday. I was told they would only call me if they needed to tell me my iron count is low.

I had 4 or 5 the first time though :-/

Sunny, if I lie on my back it tempts Baby B into moving. Don't think he likes it much! Thankfully he's back to his wriggly self today and kept me entertained through the 4th lot of costs training I've had in 10 days!

Tell you what, if Baby B turns out to be a girl, I'll be really surprised! Always the chance though :-) I just can't call my baby 'it'!

Sunbeam18 Wed 27-Mar-13 13:05:41

Just had my 28 week appt, and all well. Three vials of blood taken - I couldn't look. He is measuring 2cm over so the midwife said she anticipated he 'wouldn't be a 5 pounder'! Oh God... But he is robust so good news, I think!

forgetmenots Wed 27-Mar-13 13:16:32

Mrsbri, I've recently been thinking mine is a girl (with no reason for this), strange given how similar our 'symptoms' have been! Could both be wrong, of course!

MrsBri Wed 27-Mar-13 14:05:12

I'm 2cm over my real date too, Sunbeam :-/ Looking good for a bruiser!

Forget, I'm willing to be proven wrong, but I'm almost convinced boy. As is everyone at work!

SunnyL Wed 27-Mar-13 14:42:41

My sister is convinced I'm having a boy because I'm carrying only at the front i.e. don't look preggers from the back. I've told her she's got a 50/50 chance of being right.

DH thinks it might be a girl because a) he didn't see anything in the ultrasound and b) he keeps having dreams that we've had a girl. I think also he would secretly like a girl (something to do with having the first ever F1 champion that is a girl - god helps him if the poor child doesn't like cars).

People keep asking me what my gut feeling is. Currently my gut is feeling indigestion.

redwellybluewelly Wed 27-Mar-13 14:50:24

Sunny Currently my gut feeling is indigestion oh I hear you!

learnermummy Wed 27-Mar-13 15:22:36

Currently my gut is feeling indigestion grin. I'm going out for a curry later so am sure will be joining you!

I don't think I'm 'carrying' any differently to the other two, but supposedly this is a girl. Have definitely experienced the heartburn v no heartburn for hairy/not hairy babies though.

Sunbeam18 Wed 27-Mar-13 15:37:48

I think we're tracking on the same course, MrsBri, as think we go on mat leave on the same day too! What is your due date? I'm 18 June.

redwellybluewelly Wed 27-Mar-13 15:42:24

I had heartburn mildly with my DC1 (DD) and she did have some hair, this one will have locks like Rapunzel the amount of flipping heartburn I have had!

Only DH and I know the sex of this baby though and we are keeping very very quiet about it. My nephew guessed correctly (his accuracy rate is about 90%) and my best friend 'knows' because she had a dream although I've refused to tell her if she is right or not grin

huhpuh Wed 27-Mar-13 15:53:45

Hi there! I'm a newbie (to Mumsnet, this thread and pregnancy) due on June 11th. Just a tip for any of you Juners who haven't had your whooping cough jab yet - I had mine in my left upper arm (I'm right handed - so obvious no?). But that meant that I couldn't sleep on my left side for 2 nights as it was sore. So if you're a leftie sleeper, perhaps have it on your right? I wish I had.

As for packing my bag - it seems a bit early? Plus I know that the longer I have it hanging about, the more tempted I'll be to keep adding stuff to it so by the time I'm in labour, most of the house will be in it and I'll have upgraded the size of bag 3 times!

MrsBri Wed 27-Mar-13 16:01:22

20th June, Sunbeam, finish work 10th May.

Race you to the finish!!

Sunbeam18 Wed 27-Mar-13 16:11:50

Yep, 10 May departure here too! Bring it on! Only 20 working days left as have annual leave to take next week!
It's going to be exciting when our thread start hatching these chicks!

learnermummy Wed 27-Mar-13 16:27:02

Gosh I'm due 19th June and wasn't going to finish until 23rd May.

Welcome huhpuh, good tip on the jab, getting mine Tuesday so will bear that in mind!

AlohaMama Wed 27-Mar-13 16:36:14

I'm going to be so jealous when you're all on mat leave and I still have a month to go sad it's also going to be busy up until the end.

Should I be thinking about packing a bag? I think I prefer the denial approach, as in I can't possibly be needing it for at least 10 weeks so I don't need to pack it now!

Learner I'm also due 19th but have so much annual leave to use I'm finishing on 2nd or 3rd May. I can't wait!!
I'm just back from mw so I feel like a pin cushion after 3 vials of blood taken and my whooping cough jab in my left arm! Not too much a problem for me as I'm struggling to sleep on my left with my hip anyway. My friend did say she found it painful come bed time.
At 25 weeks I was measuring +2cm so worried i was having a biggie but at 28 weeks (today) I'm spot on. Nct teacher did say it is a guesstimate as it depends what position baby is in to what you measure (baby facing forwards or back, side to side etc) and also whether mw measures exact top of uterus and pelvic bone etc.
mw didn't want to leave it till 33/34 weeks till next appt so she has booked me into a postnatal clinic at 31 weeks. She wants to monitor me for anaemia.
Sorry for long post!!

Huhpuh I know what you mean about adding to bag! I'm bad enough at the minute adding to this little boys wardrobe!! I wasn't planning on packing until I've finished work at 33 weeks unless I have any probs between now and then. I might start buying things though (nightie, big pants etc).

learnermummy Wed 27-Mar-13 17:03:56

I have 5 weeks annual leave to take - taking a week at Easter, and possibly another week with a day or two here and there before finishing, so that leaves 3 weeks to tack on to maternity leave. I could start my actual maternity leave before my due date I suppose. Will see how I feel. 2nd May is no time at all littlemiss.

pinkapples Wed 27-Mar-13 18:19:45

Wow ill also be jealous of you all finishing grin I'm not done till the 31st may leaving me a week before my due date (hopefully) but if I'm bored ill be going in for a brew and a chat at work as hubby isn't on pat leave till she's born

Thanks for the whooping cough think I've booked mine in for the 12th as I cancelled last apt couldn't make it

I also won't be packing a bag for a while for fear of overloading it so will hold out probably till about 35 weeks only another 6 weeks to go it is mad to think she will be here in 11 weeks blush

MrsBri Wed 27-Mar-13 18:57:19

I'm planning on packing my bag tomorrow once my nighties have been delivered! Want to be all organised by 30 weeks really, then I can relax :-)

I have 4 weeks' annual leave to take and I'm starting mat leave 10 days before my due date.

I'm having my whooping cough jab once I've finished as I can't keep taking time away from work for these things when I work an hour away from home. 34 weeks will be fine, if not ideal.

Wish I could stop myself shopping for baby things. Far too tempting!!

Citybaby Wed 27-Mar-13 19:04:18

Hi, I didn't realise heartburn meant your baby had hair, that should mean my baby is a little monkey at this rate! grin

I'm also so jealous you are on maternity leave soon, I have really had enough of commuting now.angry

Did you guys have to book your whooping cough injection or did the doctor just give it to you at your appointment? I haven't been offered I one yet, my next appointment is 32 weeks. Xxx

redwellybluewelly Wed 27-Mar-13 19:28:58

Thanks for maternity nightwear tips, have found some I like in M&P so will order those online, we've a tiny tiny store near us so was wondering if I can take things back to in store rather than have to faff getting items sent back? Anyone know?

Finished work for Easter today, oh the relief at a week off!

Those comparing dates to leave I do wish now I was leaving a bit sooner but I was originally working until 31st May, now its the 24th May as I have some leave to take. Baby will be here first week of June. Bump is so low I am now concerned about driving later on, I can brake and accelerate but its so uncomfy to drive for more than twenty minutes or so.

As yet haven't bought anything at all for this baby, feeling quite mean!

MrsBri Wed 27-Mar-13 20:08:10

Redwelly, their website says you can return to a store, so that's good :-)

A week off is perfect, isn't it? Can't wait to relax for a short while before the home straight!

I have to book my whooping cough jab separately, but every surgery is different. I can only have mine on a Tuesday or Friday morning too. Useful. :-/

And City, my commute is one of the reasons I'm stopping at 34, not 37, weeks. I am also fed up of it!

SunnyL Wed 27-Mar-13 20:47:11

Took your lead Redwelly. Been getting grumpy at about 3am at pj's riding up so just bought some pj's on Mamas and Papas. I'm tight and didn't want to spend £30 on a pair of pj's for just 3 months so their 3 for 2 offer was tempting. Surprised some of the cheaper places like New Look haven't bothered with pj's. Are we meant to be sobbing around in our husbands oversized t-shirts or something? Chance would be a fine thing as my DH is a skinny ratbag

Hawkmoth Wed 27-Mar-13 20:54:36

Huhpuh, thanks for the tip! I have sensitive arms so will just pull my pants down and hope for the best!

28 week appointment with MW today. Not being seen again for six weeks!! All fine and measuring spot on for dates, though I feel huge.

She couldn't get my bloods. It was awful. Not my usual MW. She tried where she 'knew' there was a vein.... Then moved the needle. Then wiggled it. Then pulled and pushed at the vial. Then STOPPED when I went grey and said, "ooh I feel a bit sweaty, can you stop now?"

It took two hours, a hot vim to, mini cheddars and half a pack of chocolate raisins for me to stop feeling woozy... And I am sooooo not squeamish! What joy. Hope she's not there for the birth, though she was very lovely!

Mawgatron Wed 27-Mar-13 21:13:25

Getting a bit concerned about all this talk about measuring- I haven't been measured yet! Do they measure your bump? I have been to all my appointments so am now getting paranoid! Gonna see if I can have my whooping cough jab at my next appointment on the 5th.

City I had to phone my gp surgery and book it with one of the nurses. Not sure why the mw's can't do it tbh.
My arm is really hurting now. No wonder baby's have a restless night after their jabs. I feel like a wimp and DH keeps reminding me labour will be worse. Anyone watching obem?

Sunbeam18 Wed 27-Mar-13 22:01:22

City, my mw just provided info about the whooping cough vaccine. It's up to you if you choose to have it or not. They advocate having it as there is some kind of epidemic at the moment - it's to give the baby immunity in it's first few months. If you choose to get it then you need to book it with a nurse at your GP practice when you are between 28 and 32 weeks pregnant.

Mawgatron Wed 27-Mar-13 22:05:09

Hands up who had a little cry at OBEM...

Mawg - I've not been measured either, in fact I've barely seen a MW at all (2 mins max per appointment, no chance to ask her any questions - had to send the nurse off to find her for me last time as I had stuff to check!). I have got another growth scan tomorrow though, so I figured that's why they weren't measuring this time.

City - I have to book mine through my GP, I asked at my last appointment about it and got told the MWs don't do them and to arrange directly. I'm definitely getting it, a friend's DD nearly died of whooping cough in the autumn, she caught it at 5 weeks old and was in intensive care for weeks.

Cry? I'm sobbing!! So so sad but such a brave couple.

And I haven't watched OBEM, too triggering after stillbirth and NICU experience last time. I think the couple are incredibly brave for sharing their story though and I hope it helps them - I've found it's helped a lot to talk about what happened to us, even though I know other people find it difficult.

Sunbeam18 Wed 27-Mar-13 23:55:34

Where is good to get hold of nightwear for hospital? And what nightwear will we need?

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 00:13:42

I've bought a twin pack of strappy nighties from Mothercare with detachable straps for feeding. They were 24 quid. You don't want anything too toasty in there!

ella0 Thu 28-Mar-13 01:09:05

SunnyL, I'm having a girl and I'm carrying only at the front!

Thanks for the tip, huhpuh, I'm having my whooping cough jab next week. My midwife advised me to book in for it at my 28 week appointment; appointments are very random so I could only get one for three weeks after I tried to book one.

I've got a week off at Easter and then only 2 1/2 weeks in work before I finish (I have annual leave to use up before I start maternity leave). I'll be 34 weeks when I finish - I'm 30 weeks now.

I'm managing to wear normal pjs in a larger size; they have an adjustable waist which is good as I haven't put weight on anywhere other than my chest and bump. I've bought button down nighties for my hospital bag/ nursing though.

Mawgatron, they've measured me since my 25 week appointment. I was measuring small at my 25 week appt and spot on at my 28 week appt.

pinkapples Thu 28-Mar-13 06:23:50

I also haven't been measured at all mw felt bump at 28 week and said was progressing well next apt on the 9th at 31 weeks so maybe she'll do it then

Have OBEm on record still deciding if ill watch it

learnermummy Thu 28-Mar-13 07:16:20

I don't think measuring the bump is seen as particularly accurate so not always done. I had independent midwife last time and was never measured.
M&S is good for strappy nursing nighties too, about £12 each.
I also have OBEM on record and deciding whether to watch. Sorry to hear about your past experiences Rue.

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 07:38:38

In relation to the whooping cough jab, 28-32 weeks is the optimum time, but you can have it up to 38 weeks. I'm annoyed at my surgery for being less than helpful in assisting me to have it at the preferable time. The (pregnant) receptionist was very 'computer says no' about it :-/

Sorry about your past experiences, Rue.

Baby B has changed sides overnight and is now on the left after camping on the right for ages. It's odd being attacked on the other side!

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 07:56:37

I don't think I can watch OBEM, not at the moment. I've thought long an hard about it because I think what they have done is really brave and important.

I've got nothing but admiration for the bravery of the couple involved - but I kind of feel I would be watching it just thinking 'that could happen to me', which is only upsetting me and also would be taking away from their very real grief in quite a selfish way, rather than understanding their situation if you see what I mean.

Maybe if I wasn't as far along I would watch. I think though when people talk about stillbirth awareness, I find it strange because that means there must be some mums who don't understand the risks? I may just be neurotic but it's in my mind a lot of the time (have had a friend go through it very late on), and so I'm not sure watching would have any positive effect on me.

I've donated to SANDS instead.

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 08:00:24

PS just saw your post Rue, so very sorry to hear you have been though that thanks - I'm so glad you've been able to share and found that a helpful part of the process. ((Un-MN hug))

pinkapples Thu 28-Mar-13 08:49:40

I think I will watch it as apparently the couple knew there was something wrong when they went for the 20 week scan so as a couple hubby and I are passed that as we know there is nothing physically wrong with baby

Hubby and I are not to worried about the birth etc its the bit after that worries me hubby lost a sister to SIDS at 4 month old so we are really worried ill be like a zombie for the first year as I won't sleep for fear of the worst happening

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 08:53:05

Forget, I think about it quite a bit too, which isn't ideal, but I can't help it.

I keep telling myself that problems happen for the very small minority and the odds really are in our favour.

Would ignorance be bliss though? :-/

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 08:57:58

I know exactly what you mean mrsbri, on one hand you want to be aware and understand, on another it becomes a source of anxiety - I've weighed it up and felt pretty selfish either way but have decided I can't, I will just worry, even though I know this is a very sad reality.

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 09:07:48

We can worry together then, forget, as I try not to let DH see how concerned I am. Maybe my hypnobirthing dvd / book will help me relax when I start practising. Hopefully!

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 09:20:29

Oh brilliant - what hypnobirthing book have you got? Want to give it a bash!

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 09:21:42

Once I've crawled out of bed I'll let you know :-)

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 10:04:37

Right, it is 'Hypnobirthing. The Mongan Method' by Marie F Mongan. It was given to me by another MNer, so no idea what it is like yet. I'm really hoping it helps me relax though. :-)

learnermummy Thu 28-Mar-13 10:34:16

I did the Marie Mongan course during my last pregnancy, it was good. There's a lot of breathing techniques to practice though! The rainbow relaxation track is very good though, you could use that now to help you sleep. I never even make it to the colours!

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 11:12:52

Oooh thanks Mrs Bri and learnermummy - may have to pick that one up! Clearly relaxing you so much you're in bed MrsBri! smile

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 11:27:33

Making the most (or is it least?) of my day off!

I'm waiting for my Mothercare delivery so can't get in the shower til it is here. Annoying. I know it is on the van, just not where the van is!

Suppose I could clean the kitchen while I wait. Hopefully DH will be home soon to relieve me.

redwellybluewelly Thu 28-Mar-13 13:37:05

I think often when it comes to birth we ignore our instincts. Our daughter was healthy until a dr made a bad call and although she was full term and fat she still ended up in NICU on life support.

I think part of the shock was that we felt we'd ggot past the dangerous stahe of pregnancy. Had someone told me that no matter what the doctors are not always right and that sometimes you just have todemand betyer care we would have asked for a ssecond opinion and dd would have been ok.

I talk often about the mistake that was made because it was just that, a mistake, but the repercussions have changed our lives. I won't shut up and I won't sit down. Its not about ignoring feelings or panicking people, its about raising awareness and happily I know of one occasion recently when the dad of a couple who knew our story demanded another opinion for his daughter, senior staff ordered an emergency CS and baby was ok but it was a close call and had they allowed the mum to just wait another hour then baby may not have been ok.

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 14:03:24

That's awful redwelly. No one would want you to shut up and sit down (I would hope). Even sharing your story here will mean that everyone on this thread knows that. You may help one of us in ways you won't know yet by doing this.

Similarly though I think once people have taken good advice like that on board, and are aware of risks/issues they then have to decide for themselves how much they want or need to know. As I said, I think it's very important that OBEM have done this and very brave of the family. I've had a close friend go through this and I'm aware as far as I can be, but I don't think watching it will help me learn or understand more and as I mentioned my other thought was that I'd be looking at this story and constantly putting myself in it at this stage (I do this with the happy stories too!) and I felt a bit uncomfortable with that for a few reasons.

Please don't think for a second I meant that people shouldn't share these experiences. It's vital, and I'm sorry if anything I said sounded that way. I don't think anyone here means that, at all. You may just be giving us information that stops one of us going through what you have and I for one am so grateful for that. thanks

AmIGoingMad Thu 28-Mar-13 15:42:29

Wow such a busy thread!
Suzy glad that you're out of hospital now and that they're getting your blood pressure under control.

So sorry to hear of people's experiences. Like forget says its really important that people talk about these things. I, like forget, felt that watching last night was something I couldn't do. Felt guilty tho in some ways if I'm honest.

Someone asked about icandy a few days ago- I love our apple and we'll be using it again this time. I would say that the messenger bag that is for the apple is far too small. Just bought one for the peach on eBay and am thrilled with it! It's like brand new for half the price!smile Have that and a baby hawk sling and a Moby wrap so we can try both out. Other than that we're totally unprepared hmm
I'm hoping that in these Easter hols we'll at least get around to sorting out the junk in what will be the nursery. Getting a bit panicked by how disorganised we are. Am too shattered in the evenings and can't get huge amount done in the days when I'm off without ignoring DS and am not happy to do that! Hopefully with DH off for part of my school hols we'll be able to do it in shifts over a couple of days.

With baby clothes- I loved mamas and papas but found them very pricey and very small compared to others. Next I've found fab and they wash so well too.

pinkbear82 Thu 28-Mar-13 16:20:28

afternoon all.

red you shout from the rooftops - people need to know as much information ad possible. The positive and the negative. Only then can balanced decisions (hopefully) can be made.

I did watch obem - I recorded it and decided I'd watch today and could stop if I found it too much. As heart breaking for the couple as it must if been they came across wonderfully and considering it was such a sensitive area I think it was done in a very good way. Not morbid or ott.
Each to their own on it - that is after.all what makes the world go round. If we all thought the same life would be dull!

I was looking into hypnobirthing at 4am when I couldn't sleep! I am intrigued but don't know if I should look into it further.....

Hope everyone is ok and that you all get to enjoy the Long weekend thanks thanks

pinkapples Thu 28-Mar-13 16:41:13

This is completely off the subject and probably a thick question but do you have to wash baby's clothes even if their brand new? I hadn't planned to the heard a mention what's everyone doing?

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 16:53:40

I would pinkapples just because of the chemicals sprayed on clothes, in case the little one has very sensitive skin (my DH has a skin condition that makes me wary though)

There was a thread about this in Pregnancy recently, will try and find you the link smile

pinkapples Thu 28-Mar-13 16:56:04

Fab thanks forgetmenots grin

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 16:57:26

I'm washing all bedding and clothing, pink, just to be on the safe side. And little baby clothes drying are adorable :-)

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 17:00:05

Here it is pinkapples - turned into a bit of a debate, so might be you decide not to, like I say we have a bit of an issue with skin conditions so I'm probably erring way on the side of caution:


pinkapples Thu 28-Mar-13 18:09:23

Thanks forgetmenots

Having some serious bra issues at the mo had a non underwired bra on today an that has been a bit better but still painful came home from at 2pm and took my bra off straight away but still have a slight pain under my left boob like a ache hmm

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 18:29:52

Holy shit, forget, that thread is mad!

I don't care what other people do, but I'm enjoying washing all the little clothes and looking at them drying! Some people are far too judgmental. :-/

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 18:38:30

Haha, should have put a biscuit warning on it! I'm with you, would never judge anyone who did or didn't, at this stage I put any extreme reactions down to hormones and hope others are as kind with me when I'm being a lunatic emotional smile

redwellybluewelly Thu 28-Mar-13 19:27:14

I completely agree that we read or see things and then determine our decision. Thats the way it should be and if there qas a little less opinion and a tad more respect for people to make their oen choices MN probably would be as judgy! The problem is that in our case at least there really wasn't any info out there at the time and I'd done the NCT course, been to every antenatal clinic, listened to others etc etc but didn't have the information I needed on that night.

I overdid it today. DD and I in the supermarket by 9am to do the Easter shop, obviously put all items in trolley, took out of trolley, put back in trolley, put in car, took out of car. Then after an epic nap by DD during which I hoovered, washed up and hung out washing we headed into town where everything I wanted was sold out and we went two minutes over into the next pay band on the car park.


Oh and DD is turning into a runner so almost broke myself stopping her bolting for the road when some salesman knocked at the door.

And JL babygro sizing is insane! Tony baby is up to 7lb and then Newborn is 8-12LB and when you put them next to each other there are inches difference. I'd personally rather not have a 12lb newborn.

forgetmenots Thu 28-Mar-13 19:39:20

You're spot on redwelly - it's awful to think that a bit more information can make such a huge difference, but you're right of course as you know only too well. Hope after the day you've had there's a nice wine substitute on the go and you've got your feet up!

Didn't realise that about JL, that's a bit shock what's annoying me is the variation from shop to shop!! No two 'newborn' bodysuits the same size!!

AmIGoingMad Thu 28-Mar-13 20:10:46

My goodness red- how did you fit all if that into one day?!

Couldn't believe some of the posts on that thread- so many judgmental people!

I'm gutted as today I finally bit the bullet and decided to order some new maternity leggings from new look- only to find that they're out of stock!!! I could cry!!!

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 20:15:18

Try again in a few days, AmI, as they're in and out of stock all the time.

My second lot weren't as good quality as my first, oddly, however.

AmIGoingMad Thu 28-Mar-13 21:32:46

Good to know- thanks mrsbri!

AlohaMama Thu 28-Mar-13 22:17:37

Oooh trying so hard to keep up but this thread is busy busy and our house is full of visitors right now. All I can say is it sounds like you had a really tough experience red and sorry you had to go through that with your dd. And secondly, take it easy, lie down and let your dh do the shopping for you next time!!

I'm finding my body is now very definitely telling me when I'm doing too much with v painful BH. But only on one side. Does anyone else have that? I can feel it has contracted all over but it's really painful on the right and doesn't hurt on the left. I'm assuming it's how the baby is lying?

I didn't read the washing clothes thread, can't be doing with all that over-emotive judgyness. I would suggest though that if you do wash your new clothes (personally I did) then don't do all of them straight away, that way if you need to return/exchange sizes you can.

Don't cry AmI! Hope you can find more leggings soon - I do appreciate the trauma of maternity clothes shopping! I just got my online delivery ordered, lovely comfy skirt and jeans shorts, just 2 things but it will open up my wardrobe possibilities!

pinkbear82 Thu 28-Mar-13 22:28:35

anyone else craving ice cold things?! me and ice lollies have been inseparable the last two days.
really bad low back ache too. angry

Not got time to read all will check back tomorrow but AmI I can recommend jojo maman bebe for maternity leggings. Very comfy and not see through. The bump band is very supportive. If you search on MN there is a discount code somewhere.

Sarah2506 Thu 28-Mar-13 22:52:35

Man that other thread is well nasty! Why are people like that?! Or maybe we are just all too polite? If one of you says something I don't agree with I think 'don't agree with that' and move on! Would never think to get all mean about it here!

In Lake District for weekend. Is TORTUROUS. Friends planing loads of walking with DH and I'm so jealous. Miss climbing mountains so much. Going to tea shops on own and for potter tomorrow. Can't deny DH his mountains as likelihood is he won't be doing this again for a while,

AlohaMama Thu 28-Mar-13 23:16:06

Sarah sounds like a perfect opportunity for a spa day, surely? I mean if you're going to be hanging out on your own, you may as well make the most of it. Unless that's not your cup of tea.

Sunbeam18 Thu 28-Mar-13 23:16:46

Yeah, that thread about washing is plain weird! Someone on it seemed to be calling her unborn baby a brat!? I'm glad we are all kind and supportive!

Pinkbear - YES, I have eaten an entire box of Fab ice lollies in the last few days blush grin

To those who commented and don't know our story: DS is a surviving identical triplet, we had acute twin to twin transfusion syndrome last time round and despite laser ablation we lost his brothers, and DS was born at 31 weeks and spent 5 weeks in NICU before coming home.

I had a growth scan this morning, which wasn't particularly good - baby is growing too quickly and abdominal circumference is off the top of the centile chart. Weight currently estimated at 5lbs shock I'm seeing the consultants on Tuesday, but I suspect we won't make the 38 weeks we're currently aiming for, and am half expecting delivery at more like 35 or 36 weeks. Which is a bugger, as it's DD's birthday that week.

AlohaMama Thu 28-Mar-13 23:58:16

Thanks for being so open Rue, I think I'd got the gist of it after various posts but it just sounds like it must have been such a difficult time for you <un-mnet hugs>. As for your fast-growing baby this time, are there any reasons for the fast growth or are they just concerned to make sure you have the baby before it gets too big? Presumably you'll keep having regular scans to monitor the growth?

forgetmenots Fri 29-Mar-13 01:56:52

Rue - I didn't know your story. thanks
Very brave of you to tell us, I really hope all is well with your little one, are they monitoring you closely?

Thanks for the leggings tips! Definitely need a pair to see me through smile

learnermummy Fri 29-Mar-13 07:24:00

So sorry to hear your story Rue, hope this little one slows down for you.

Sorry you're having to spend the day on your own Sarah - make sure you treat yourself to something nice smile.

We're off to see 'walking with dinosaurs' today and the kids are playing really nicely while I laze I'm bed. Happy Good Friday everyone.

AmIGoingMad Fri 29-Mar-13 08:31:28

Rue that must have been so difficult. Big hugs. ( someone will have to explain the un mn hugs thing to me as I haven't a clue and it puzzles me every time I see it) Good that they're keeping a good eye on the growth now too.

Littlemiss- thanks for the recommendation! I'll look into those in a bit.

Sarah alohas suggestion seems like a good un to me!

Hope everyone has a lovely bank hol! Mine started very early with DS but my shower has woken me a bit! The sun is shining too- happy days! smile

SunnyL Fri 29-Mar-13 09:37:48

Morning all. Went to the GP yesterday about my varicose veins on the advice of the midwife. Asked her about the support stockings. She said 'well you know varicose veins are just one of things that happens in pregnancy, we're not even sure if stockings will help that much, lets see them first - whoa! they really are bad aren't they??!!'. There is this weird bit of me that always feels smug when I manage to shock a medical practitioner grin.

Anyhoo I have a prescription for these super sexy support stockings. Got to give the pharmacist about 1000 measurements and they'll order them in for me. As if I wasn't sexy enough for DH at the moment!

pinkapples Fri 29-Mar-13 09:39:06

Mine started well with no underboob pain however having put on a bra It's now back grin

pinkapples Fri 29-Mar-13 09:40:24

Hopefully this is not going to last the whole weekend but I'm thinking it might hmm

pinkapples Fri 29-Mar-13 09:41:52

Awwww sunny must have been funny to see the shock on her face tho grin I know feeling much less sexy each day at the moment not impressed only a matter of weeks to go now tho

Thanks ladies - the growth is because of diabetes, which is being a pain in the bum and not behaving itself despite best efforts. My fingers look like they have freckles from all the spots where I'm testing, I'm fairly sure that if I squeezed them they'd bleed all by themselves!

I've got more growth scans booked in, for 32 & 36 weeks but will probably have one at 34 weeks and they might up it to weekly depending on how we go. Seeing consultants in between them, so 1 week consultant, next week scan etc. The hospital car park is costing me a fortune!

Sunny - the glamour of pregnancy never ceases to amaze me grin

AmI - MN is a nest of vipers, didn't you know? wink

Pink - hope your boobs are feeling better soon grin

Sarah2506 Fri 29-Mar-13 16:41:43

There is a spa in Ambleside. Why did this thought not occur to me?! Went for a lovely short walk though, just eight or so miles with not much hill. So lovely up here in the snow. Happy Good Friday all:-)

pinkapples Fri 29-Mar-13 16:56:15

Awww glad you had a good day Sarah sounds lovely grin
well I've been in bed all day rib pain easing but now have back pain and the shivers along with being sick every time I move so a good start to the bank holiday weekend for me! Hopefully tomorrow will be more successful hmm

SunnyL Fri 29-Mar-13 20:12:23

Just tried on my new Mamas and Papas pyjamas. Theyre flippin HUGE! Wonder if i'll still think that in 10 weeks grin

learnermummy Fri 29-Mar-13 20:17:00

Oh no pink sounds like this horrid lurgy that's doing the rounds. Hope you feel better soon.

Rue, are you diabetic normally or just pregnancy related? Sounds awful hmm.

Well we had a great afternoon watching the dinosaurs, highly recommend it to any with small boys!

redwellybluewelly Fri 29-Mar-13 21:02:29

Sunny I got mine today as well, annoyed as I asked for them to be sent to store so I didn't have to pay. Also didn't realise the ones I got were under bump, useless after CS so will have to go back. But the nighties are nice. No. They are functional.

Rue I'm sorry about the diabetes being such a PITA, though reassuring such a close eye is being kept on you

Pink get well soon, sounds horrid

pinkbear82 Fri 29-Mar-13 21:27:16

I'm slightly jealous of all the New pjs - I used to love my jammies but recently find I'm too hot in them and uncomfy so don't bother.

woke up with a killer sore throat and as the day's gone on I've developed a delightful dry hacking cough. cue bump ache (and now when it kicks it feels like it's kicking something out of my fanjo) and an awful amount of leg crossing during a coughing fit!

and then, after making the effort yesterday to deforest my legs dp is just rubbing my leg and announces he'll shave them for me as feeling a bit rough angry lucky for him I could only cough in reply!

AmIGoingMad Fri 29-Mar-13 22:27:40

Get well soon both pinks!

I'm having to look into pjs soon- have one pair that I bought from next last time around and they ae sooooo comfy! Now need to find another few to live up to them.

Can't believe I'm only now going to bed when I've been so tired for ages!
Night ladies!

I'm type 1, had it most of my life and normally it's pretty well controlled but being PG sends me/it into a spin - have promised faithfully that there'll be no more kids after this one! Don't think I could hack it again.

Pink & Pink hope you're both feeling better soon. I'm busy coming down with my 6th cold this year (!) and not at all happy about it!

I ought to find some PJs for hospital I guess, are mamas and papas ones comfy? Can't remember the last time I owned any blush Where else might sell me some? Also, has anyone seen any underwired nursing bras anywhere? I had some both previous times but haven't found any in stock so far.

redwellybluewelly Fri 29-Mar-13 23:05:18

Rue see my post ^ I picked some and they were under bimp, and it didn't explicitly say that on the web. I'm hoing to try some others though.

redwellybluewelly Fri 29-Mar-13 23:05:50



Bloody phone.

learnermummy Sat 30-Mar-13 07:22:13

Rue the Anita underwired nursing bras are fab. You can get from figleaves but they are pricey so worth holding out for s discount. They do 20% off days now and again, will let you know if I spot one.

DontmindifIdo Sat 30-Mar-13 09:03:18

oh big jim jams is a good thing - lots of growing room and not rubbing if you have a c section.

NCT do have a good range of nighties and pjs, a lot that are designed for giving birth in.

Now, here's a birth tip for you all, get in your 'giving birth' outfit/nighty before you insist on an epidural or let them put a drip in your arm, trying to get a t-shirt off over a drip was rather farsical last time round - they put me on a drip as soon as I got there because I (being the classy bird I am) had been throwing up pretty much on every contraction and threw up all over the carpark and entrance hall for the hospital. Wish I'd actually thought before I let them put that in my arm that I was still dressed, I just wanted the vommity feeling to go...

pinkapples Sat 30-Mar-13 15:04:06

Have spent the last 2 day in pyjamas grin soooo comfy the aches all over are not tho sad back ache leg ache everything ache who said pregnancy was fun!

learnermummy Sat 30-Mar-13 16:53:44

Back from my 4d scansmile. Lovely to see her again but she did have hands and feet in front of her face most of the time! Weighing in at 2 lb 14 oz apparently. All good. Kids enjoyed it too. Only downer is me and DS2 both running a temperature hmm.

pinkbear82 Sat 30-Mar-13 19:01:18

<comes along with a tray of hot honey and lemon for everyone>

hope everyone starts to feel better soon!

<goes off to find more tissue and a miracle cure for stupid cough>

SunnyL Sat 30-Mar-13 19:04:15

Has anyone filled out their birth plan yet? I got reminded by my midwife last time I saw her but havent done anything about it yet. Was thinking of waiting until i'd done the antenatal classes so I might be in a more informed position - not entirely sure watching One Born Every Minute means I know sufficient to write it.

pinkapples Sat 30-Mar-13 20:12:02

Awww learner bet it was lovely grin got mine on Tuesday

pains gone now which is nice just generally achey and tired feeling sick tho still so will be nice to see her on Tuesday grin

Baby brain has hit to as I have just realised today that I have booked 2 whooping cough jabs one on Wednesday and one the following week what a muppet will be cancelling one of those next week as well

learnermummy Sat 30-Mar-13 21:19:07

No birth plan yet here Sunny although don't want to do that until they ok my home birth. Don't see how you could do it before antenatal classes though. I did buy some muslins today though!
Don't think you need 2 whooping cough jabs pink .

pinkapples Sat 30-Mar-13 21:22:58

No I don't think so either not sure why I booked a second obviously was having a moment grin

Sarah2506 Sat 30-Mar-13 21:31:14

Does anyone else just occasionally hate being pregnant? We are in a B and B. the bed is small and DH has cold and is snoring a lot. I got 2 hours sleep. All my friends went out walking with DH and I did not much, though couldn't sleep. Dinner was booked for 830. I was sick with tired and hunger and got there to discover we were sat on table with loads of randoms in hot, noisy room. I asked for my food early, ate it quickly, burst into tears at table and am now back at B and B on own, lonely, exhausted and wishing I hadn't bothered coming to the Lakes at all. I've barely seen DH, I haven't seen my friends at all and really wanted to at dinner. I just feel so out of it and like life is horrible - I know it's not. And I despair of the thought of another sleepless night listening to him snoring before more of the same tomorrow. Want to go home to my own bed, with DH in spare bed and me with Snowy my soft toy reindeer friend. I am SO pathetic right now. sad

peardrop2 Sat 30-Mar-13 21:43:34

Hi ladies, just popping by to tell you about my pyjama bargain as a few of you have been asking about pjs! Today I went to Primemark and brought a pair of white lounge wear pyjamas with navy spots on in size 14-16 (I was Primemark size 12-14 before pregnancy). The elastic is really thin and soft so it doesn't dig in at all. The best bit is the matching top in navy or white has buttons so it will be perfect for nursing! They feel really soft. Top was £3 and bottoms were £6! I'm going to go back and buy more in a few weeks. I also brought some of the £1 pants size 16-18 but now wish I'd gone for the size 18-20 as 16-18 only just fits :-(

Lastly, I brought a couple of lovely nursing bras from M&S. I find if you book a nursing bra appt first they're really helpful and have a lot of choice.

Sorry for the long post ;-) Just wanted to share as I resent paying £25 for maternity pyjamas!

peardrop2 Sat 30-Mar-13 21:46:20

Now I need help...does anyone own a bugaboo Cameleon? If yes, what do you lie baby on in the carry cot part? Are you meant to buy a liner or can you lie baby straight on the thin mattress? I brought a liner but now realise its for when baby is sitting in the upright position!

learnermummy Sat 30-Mar-13 22:04:23

Oh Sarah big hugs sounds like a horrid time hmm. It is hard when you're the only pregnant one amongst childless friends. Can you get yourself to that spa tomorrow? And find some ear plugs? Hope you don't have to spend another day on your own. Weather doesn't help either does it?

AmIGoingMad Sat 30-Mar-13 23:01:42

Aw poor you Sarah- sounds awful! If you're anything like me you're probably emotional enough at the best of times at the moment, let alone with the added lack of sleep! I hope you have a better night tonight and that everything feels better in the morning.

Learner- such a lovely thing for you all to have seen baby! I'm getting worried that I should book a scan as I keep thinking 'what if they got it wrong and I'm preparing for a girl but we have a boy?!'. This isn't helped as I was talking to someone today who said her mum was told she was having a boy and then out SHE came! Granted that was many years ago but still!!!

I hope everyone who's feeling rough feels better soon!

Peardrop - I don't have a Bugaboo, but with the carrycot on our old double pram I used a moses basket mattress with sheet to lie LO on. Although I could have put them straight on the carrycot mattress. You'll probably need a sheet or a folded muslin covering it though, babies are mucky grin

I'll have a look for Primark PJs, thanks.

Sunny - not even thought about birth plans, doubt I'll bother this time as DH & I know the ropes well enough to ask for what we want and I don't think anything has changed since last time.

Sarah - sounds like a horrible day, I hope you get some sleep tonight and tomorrow is better. Sounds like your DH needs a smack upside the head though, his job for the foreseeable future is to pander to you and your every whim - do we need to whip up a posse and send them round? grin

learnermummy Sat 30-Mar-13 23:37:17

AmI that's partly why I booked another scan! Wanted to be sure it's a she!!

MrsBri Sun 31-Mar-13 02:13:14

Sorry to everyone feeling rough still, and I hope you feel better tomorrow, Sarah. I'd be bloody miserable in that situation too.

Great news about the scan, learner :-) I'm still quite enjoying not knowing the sex of Baby B, it has to be said.

Sunny, I've not done a birth plan yet, but am planning to soon. One of my weekly emails had one I can download and complete, so I'll use that.

Baby B has been utterly manic tonight. Really quite painful with his kicking, shoving and moving. God knows what position he's ended up in, but he's still rummaging. Hope he stops soon so I can sleep.

SunnyL Sun 31-Mar-13 04:31:50

Awww Sarah. Hope you get some sleep. I had a similar couple of nights last week when we were at the inlaws who only have a small double bed and DH had stayed up drinking whisky so his breath stunk and he was snoring. I took pleasure in kicking the bugger a few times grin.

Hopefully your melt down at dinner will have been noticed and some members of your group will hang back with you tomorrow and do the slow pregnant lady thing.

SunnyL Sun 31-Mar-13 04:38:04

P.s. Im getting a Bugaboo chameleon but not a scooby what the answer to your Q is. Now faintly worried too!

Meant to be going for a big family lunch at my parents today bht they have blocked drains so we may have to go to my sisters and eat roast lamb picnic style on our lapss. Unfortunately if that happens i just know my mum and dad will have fallen out again and will be sniping at one another. sigh happy families.

pinkbear82 Sun 31-Mar-13 13:50:59

Just a quickie - m&s have a 20% off Easter event. Pjs included and they do have some over the bump dark bottoms in the maternity section. No idea what they are like but thought I'd say!

redwellybluewelly Sun 31-Mar-13 14:31:31

Thanks pinkbear we're taking it so easy today we've all just settled down for an afternoon nap together after not getting up till half ten.


Olimoss Sun 31-Mar-13 17:24:18

Buongiorno everyone!

Back from Rome where I walked an average of 5km a day (not bad considering I'm heavily in foal and one knee is so busted that were I horse I'd have been put down by now!) on the cobbles, so pleased with that. Obviously massively carbo-loaded on pasta and gelato so it evened out.

I would recommend, though, if you are doing a final break before the baby comes, to maybe do something a bit more restful. Am absolutely knackered and look it.....hmmmm.

Sarah - totally understand what you're saying, I'm over it! All the walking I did brought on fairly unstinting Braxton Hicks the whole time, and it just got painful and boring. And today I tried to take off my wellies after walking the dog and couldn't bend down to get them off, nor then put on my shoes, and I fantasised about having a massive tanty.

Hope everyone else is feeling ok - I have had to succumb and am wearing the officially Massive Underpants - tried wearing smaller (boyleg, my faves) ones last night but so uncomfortable. Good PJ tips, I've been trying to find those old-man style ones with unelasticated by with tie-waist ones - anyone know what I mean? My great-grandad used to wear them....

We are having a wellbeing scan on 11 April at the Foetal Medical centre - I want reassurance that baby's measurements are ok after last scans shows 50th centile for everything except for the abdomen, which was measuring at 95th. And to check he's still got a massive pair of balls, and not the other!

Sorry for long post, took so long to read the updates since I've been gone my head is spinning!

AmIGoingMad Sun 31-Mar-13 19:43:11

Sunny I hope everything worked out for your family meal! Families are complex things aren't they?!

Oli Rome sounds like it was fab! I've been once on a one day whistlestop tour and it was fab but tiring!

Hope you've had a better day today Sarah?

I'm currently sat outside DS room trying to get him to go to sleep. We've had a nice relaxing day with lunch with in laws. Hoping to even watch a film tonight dare I say it!smile

SunnyL Sun 31-Mar-13 20:09:58

AmI - clearly when the man from Scottish Water came round not only did he unblock the sewer he also dropped something in my parents tea because they were on immaculate behaviour. It's like they were replaced by someone else. In fact even my brother wasn't an arse and he is ALWAYS an arse!

AlohaMama Mon 01-Apr-13 01:02:44

Happy Easter everyone. smile

Thanks for the advice on getaways oli - we're going away tomorrow (to the Big Island aka Hawai'i) and current plan involves ascending (in car) to summit of mountain at 14,000 ft (cue altitude sickness), snorkelling, hiking around volcano, and lots of beach visits, all with another family and 4 kids in total. Relaxing???? I don't think so...Anyway we'll see how we get on.

Yay to big pants by the way. Just another aspect of the glamour of pregnancy!

Right, off to enjoy a well earned half hour on the sofa before ds wakes up, then easter egg hunts in the garden and BBQ. Bye all.

Hi everyone.
Just catching up been a busy weekend with friends and family staying, they go home today so back to normality soon.
Pinkbear thanks for heads up on m&s I've ordered. Some pjs and a couple of nighties to try.
I've given up on trying to sleep had a rubbish night so I'm up with a cuppa tea (and a flapjack!).

AmIGoingMad Mon 01-Apr-13 08:21:38

Sounds like everyone's having a nice bank holiday weekend!

I'm glad your family pleasantly surprised you sunny grin

We've had quite a sleep deprived night but I'm in denial and looking forward to a family day out on a steam train for DS! Hopefully I won't crash into a wall of tiredness until this afternoon!

forgetmenots Mon 01-Apr-13 09:58:26

Hi everyone - cant believe how quickly the time is going in, I'm 30 weeks and it feels like the home stretch now!

The over the bump PJ suggestions are great, thanks so much. Need to start thinking about hospital bag soon (nighties, nursing bras etc! Argh!) and I really would love a comfy pair of pyjamas.

I can see baby moving really clearly now (have felt it for a while of course but with anterior placenta wasn't seeing it!) - this week has been quite an active one, and I love seeing DH's face when there's a big kick or turn! smile

pinkapples Mon 01-Apr-13 10:23:13

I know forgetmenots its so surreal

Is it me or is anyone else feeling not rested after getting up? I feel knackered! It may be the tail end of the sickness that I've had but I am absolutely hanging

MrsBri Mon 01-Apr-13 11:05:42

Forget, the last 2 weeks have been mental on the watching baby front! It's fascinating. DH also plays 'find the foot' and will press lightly because baby pushes back. Cuteness. :-)

Think I'll look for those PJs, though probably sold out now!

Hmmm...good reminder re nursing bras. Though I was hoping to wait a few more weeks yet before splashing out (and to allow my boobs to increase a touch more!). I'll be packing my bag tomorrow though, with what I do have.

Pink, I do feel tired a lot of the time. And everything is SO much effort. :-/ Think this is it now, sadly.

forgetmenots Mon 01-Apr-13 11:37:22

I'm not too bad on tiredness - but I am sleeping like a champion, and luckily baby seems to wake when I wake (Don't see that lasting for long!)

I think I'm going to go on the very glam bra and nightie shopping trip at the weekend...

Mrsbri that's really cute! We can't identify between hand/elbow/foot yet but given that baby was firmly head down at my last appointment I'm assuming those are feet banging my ribs! smile

MrsBri Mon 01-Apr-13 12:00:18

Forget, Baby B has tried head down on at least 2 occasions, but doesn't stay there for long. The right hand side is the preferred location at present. Hopefully head down will come sooner rather than later, else I foresee much time spent on all fours with my arse in the air attempting to turn him. And DH is bound to see that as some sort of invitation!!

Nighties and bras. Once upon a time that would have been for sexy clothing. Sigh!

You're lucky with your baby's waking hours, forget. Baby B used to do that. Now I get Riverdance when I'm trying to sleep. Though I must sleep through it sometimes as I dream about baby kicking me!

I have to say that one benefit of pregnancy is very clear, very soft skin. Wonder how long that'll take to go afterwards?!

MrsBri Mon 01-Apr-13 12:01:50

Oh, and the only reason we know it's a foot is its size and shape. Generally we can't tell if we aren't pressing on it.

I'm a bit squeamish about it though. Daft really!

SunnyL Mon 01-Apr-13 14:22:08

When you just HAVE to eat the creme egg even though you know it will give you indigestion........thank god for Gaviscon.

forgetmenots Mon 01-Apr-13 16:17:59

Haha MrsBri - I'm thinking the night-time dancing might not be far off, or it might be the benefit of anterior placenta (cushion for sleep!). I have noticed that baby likes kicking against my dreamgenii pillow though, which is quite funny ('give me more room to jump about!!')

The nightie and bra situation has gone distinctly granny fashion, was actually laughing at the window of Ann Summers the other day! Oh the memories haha! My skin's pretty good too, except (bizarrely) my shoulders, which have broken out teenage style and now gone red and sore!

With you on the Gaviscon SunnyL. I have deposited bottles at work and around the house smile

MrsBri Mon 01-Apr-13 16:21:52

Yes, forget...that is exactly it, dancing against the pillow!! How funny :-)

I've just started my cross stitch. Here's hoping I manage it OK.

forgetmenots Mon 01-Apr-13 17:01:28

Good luck with the cross stitch! Lovely idea. A friend of mine sent me this link from guardian online about making a swaddle blanket:


I'm not great at sewing but might give this a try once I've stopped work!