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Shagged Out Viroids 7th Thread! From conception to birth...living proof that JSing really does work!(1000 Posts)
Hello and welcome to another shiny fred for Just Shagging graduates!
The last fred was nice and busy so fingers crossed we get lots more members
For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!
The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.
The last thread saw a few births, including one set of twins, and this one promises to be fruitful also with a number of us nearing the end of the 9 month wait!
Our stats thread is here, so if you find us, please add your stats too.
There is also a Just Mumming thread for grads of the grads thread
And if you want to find out what Just Shagging is about or catch up with the undergrads go say hello to the Just Shaggers here, now on the 14th thread.
Brilliant. At least this one won't take half as long to load as the nearly-full other one!
Lovely new fred, MrsBri
I had my 32 week MW appointment today (but due to when she is at my local clinic, I am almost 33 weeks). All okay so we continue to wait and see what happens.
We had quite a chat about the possibility of me BFing this time... have never managed it before although did express until the due dates so DDs did get the benefits of BFing in the early days as it was all syringed into them.
One of the MW assistants is giving a 'parentcraft' session on BFing in about 10 days so I am going along and we are going to make a plan so that I have a greater chance of things working out this time - MW reckons we can plan for it to work even if DC3 ends up the same as the others and checks into NICU for a few weeks. So I am feeling rather excited about the whole idea - but know it will be fine if I have to move on to FF as on both previous times when my milk failed to come in...
Lovely shiney new Fred!!!
MrsBri Liverpool sling library is fab! If weekends are better and you are willing to travel a bit then get in touch with Kangarinos near Wigan - Rachael will generally sort a Saturday when she can be there and you can have a play with some slings. I got one of mine there and she's lovely! I'm a slingaholic - already bought 2 with a view to newborn snuggles despite me ready having a few
Hi all, just parking my butt on the new thread . Hope everyone is well.
Ooh, good tip, thank you Rock :-) I'll tell DH and see what his preferred option is.
Hi Pineapple. Hope you're good.
<waves> Just marking place.
Ooh sling talk - I have just found a sling library on the island that I have never heard about before. And I am thinking about buying a Joe and Joy wrap just because they are such a bargain price and it would be useful to have another wrap (with my other two) before I decide what else I am going to buy.
I've just found a sling library near me (a couple actually) using this website
I have got a couple of carriers kicking around somewhere that I must dig out
and probably wash that didn't work last time but I'll try them again. If I don't use them this time I am happy to pass on to whoever wants them but that might be in a few months' time?
Ooh, shiny new fred
Just marking place, now off to catch up on the end of the old one.....
Marking place too, and who would like to guess where I am yet again
I wish I could stop being sick!
Oh no waves you poor bugger I really hope it gets gone soon, it must be utterly miserable. How are your DCs coping? Hope you're being looked after and not too stressed about other stuff xx
I've just seen your pic waves.
And the ironic comment by one of your friends
Do they know why it's so bad this time for you? Does it always keep getting worse with each pregnancy? I daren't ask when the last time was you had a normal meal
Hello to all and shiny new fred!
So sorry waves, just awful, keep hoping you get through this soon
Had 12 week scan today, all brilliant, risk of Down's tiny, kicking about like crazy and we have an amazing video of it!
New fred! Suppose i should go to just mumming but it feels weird. This feels like home
something I think we should all stay here until all our babies have arrived and then decamp en masse! I think when is due early October no? So not long to wait haha
Wow on a new thread. I'm on my phone (in the bath) so haven't managed to catchup with everything yet. I'll read the end of the last thread on my computer later.
Been ill recently and had to have some time off work and lots of early nights. Thankfully I seem to be better now. Just standard pregnancy discomforts - hence why I am in the bath in the middle if the afternoon! I am working at home but sitting is agony for my rib pain so had to revamp to the bath and have now got lots of very wet paperwork, oops!
Hope everyone is well.
I'm coming up to 33 weeks and its starting to feel like the home strait. Got the home birth support group on Sunday and going to book my birthing pool. Will hopefully have it from 37 weeks
so should be able to do the rest of my PhD work in there!
Teaching finishes for me next week - just 3 more days to go, yippee!
Right, must drag myself out of the bath to go and collect the children. Will catch up and respond to all the gossip later
Kitten yes please let's stay here and then decamp together. It's very quiet over on just mumming and I don't feel like I know any of the few that do post.
Something I'm still here and Fern is 7 weeks already I'm only going if you do too x
Im a fan of the going on mass idea!
Henry is three weeks old today and has gained 2lbs from birth!! Making him a whopping 7lbs 4oz
Something that's brilliant! Well done you and Henry
Hooya glad the scan went well and baby performed for you
Hi all! I finally found you, having lost track for a while.
I'm 23 weeks now, have a follow up scan tomorrow, but baby is kicking away in there so I'm trying to to worry too much.
waves sorry you're back in hospital. How many weeks are you now? I hope it settles down for you soon, 'normal' morning sickness was bad enough, let alone what you're going through.
something I'm glad you're home with baby, sounds like you had a really scary time of things.
<Waves wildly at everyone else>
Hello everyone glad to hear positive stories!
I am spending tonight in hospital, have had 2 litres of fluids already and another 2 overnight, then 2 more in the morning before home at lunchtime. Then I'll be back here each morning for IV fluids and IV anti emetics. At least I'll get home each night, even if it does mean being at hospital every day, and I'll avoid the horrible spiralling into dehydration.
I'm 19 weeks pregnant, and looking forward to the 20 week scan next week. No idea when this is going to ease, I seem to be one of the very unlucky few who get Hyperemesis in the first place, and then it not respond too well to medication. I'm nearly 10% of body weight down now from my booking in appt, so once the dehydration is under control the consultant is going to plan how to start getting calories into me.
I did get a very quick peek at the baby today, consultant had a quick check and all is well. Still hoping to turn a corner soon with respect to the Hyperemesis, at this rate I won't remember how to get into the office at work let alone how to do my job!
Waves, that sounds like a much much better plan for you care. Nice to perk at baby too. Almost half way now. I'm still crossing my fingers that it magically gets better for you x
Hope you get all better very soon waves
Great news [Hooya]
I am 28 weeks now. Eek, this is going quickly. I saw my MW today and she complimented me on my lovely stretch-mark free bump :D
I like the plan above about us all moving over once our miniJSers arrive, or perhaps we can go in stages so we don't put off any current JSers who might want to come onto the fred -there are a few who may only be lurking anyway at the moment... Delurk, you lurkers!!!
Child, I also have no stretch marks, second time I've managed to avoid them. I think it's genetic as my DM didn't have them with me and my brother either and I've only remembered to rub oil into my bump about once a week so it's not been that! I see the lines of purple stretch marks the ladies have on ONEM and I am shocked - I'm not sure how I'd cope with those so sorry for those of you who do suffer from them
And waves, I'm so glad finally seem to be getting some proper bloody care. If this ends up working I'd complain and ask why on earth they didn't do this weeks ago, especially considering the effects it has on your children etc etc
Delurking as per Wing's instructions just to say I've got a scan tomorrow (8 weeks) so if all goes well and there's a heartbeat I'm telling people
and actually accepting I'm pregnant but very nervous about it all!
How are you feeling now waves?
Ooh good luck for tomorrow rockchick! Don't forget to update us too
And good luck today Persuasion, well done on your scan Hooya and Guinea I am dense - I didn't realise how soon you are due behind me!
Good luck Persuasion and Rockchick with your scans today.
News at the teddy house is that Fern is smiling, too cute!
Waves how awful - fingers crossed that you wake up soon and are feeling better. Must be awful to be nearly half way through and still feeling so bad all the time. At least you get to go home but being at the hospital each day must still be a nuisance.
Something love the picture of your two boys together on FB! Henry still looks tiny - but o course, they don't feel tiny when they are coming out!
Rockchick good luck for the scan tomorrow. More crossed fingers.
Child and wing I too have no stretch marks - from this PG or previous two. People are telling me I look bigger this time (although MW says I am not and am pretty much the same size as I was at this stage last time). I have not used oil at all this time - DP used it a lot during my last to PGs. All it has done this time is sit on the window sill and i have thought about using it - luckily it is the thought that counts. Sorry to those who do have stretch marks - I am not sure there is anything you can really do about them if you are genetically predisposed to getting them.
Sorry tired how lovely that Fern is smiling - what a great milestone!
I have seen 3 little babies today - two of them were only born on Friday (and were at the children's centre) and the other one was somewhere out and about (baby brain means I cannot recall whose it was) but she was a couple of months old and smiling hugely
Seeing the babies kind of brings it home that this is all real...
I am 33 weeks today so a week past arrival time of DD1 but still 10 days away from DD2. I am constantly waiting for waters to break but I know it might not happen for a few weeks yet. I am so much more anxious about this DC than either of the others so just want it to arrive - but not too soon IYKWIM. Generally I am very chilled and laid back but I am, once again, finding this end of the PG hard - just like the early days.
This evening I have written an outline of a birth plan using the NHS choices form to have an idea of what to include - never done one before. I went to a relaxation and breathing class today too. Am seeing lactation MW next week to organise plan to breastfeed. Finally had my whooping cough jab which was postponed yesterday as computers went down in the surgery (all fine so far). Washed and dried all baby clothes. Bedding, muslins etc drying now (but should I iron.... not even sure where the iron is?
And have written a (final) shopping list of stuff to buy tomorrow before I pack my hospital bag(s):
- witch hazel (to put on maternity pads to ease post natal peeing)
- raspberry leaf capsules (to prepare cervix - but need to check these...)
- fenugreek capsules (to aid milk flow - plan is to start pumping at 36b weeks if baby has not arrived to build supply)
- fennel tea (to aid milk flow)
- vaseline (to put on baby bum to make early nappies easy to change!)
Then I think I am ready...
- lidded nappy bucket and tea tree oil (to store dirty nappies before laundry)
Dysgu that planning is fab! Maybe arnica to take after the birth? I found it really helped. I hope baby stays in for you for a few more weeks. Three is lovely.
- arnica (added to list to help with bruising) - although I may call the clinic as we have a doctor who will write a prescription for a homeopathic kit (so you get about £200 of stuff free - yes, will do that in the morning and see what they say!)
Hello all, good luck with those having scans, looking forest to hearing how it all went.
Oops pressed post too fast!
Wanted to ask (probably already discussed, sorry!) when you've started buying the bigger baby stuff, like buggy, nursery furniture, cot etc? Realise now that some of it may take time to order into stores... I'm 24+4 today and I guess it's almost time to start shopping? We really wanted to start once DH starts working but as u know we have done the big move from UK back to Oz recently and still establishing ourselves at new home and with work. I am working but DH hasn't found a job yet. This is really stressing him out. I'm sure it will happen soon but the stress of it all is evident on him poor thing . So much pressure on the guys, which is tough. Luckily I am working till may and hoping some good luck comes our way soon.
Anyway back to my original q about when to start buying stuff...any advice would be great! This is our 1st baby so we have nothing at the moment. Very exciting there will be more babies born here in the next few weeks!
Pineapple it depends where you're getting things from really as to when you should buy them. Some prams have a waiting list, so worth choosing ASAP so that if you need to wait you will still get the one you want in time; things like cot and furniture generally not so long. Places like mothercare do a payment plan so you can pay them off gradually but know you're stuff is ordered and waiting for you. Oh, an if it's a pram that you don't have to wait for, get it as late as possible as the warranty is valid from when you buy it not when you start using it so if anything goes wrong it'll be covered by the guarantee (more common than you'd think).
Good luck for the scan today rock!
pineapple we've bought quite a bit already in the sales, including the pram. The warranty point that rock just made didn't even cross my mind though and it's a good point
Dysgu, keep going and see if you can beat DD2's arrival time - your pregnancies have got longer each time so this one may arrive at 35wks-ish?!
Not heard of a lactation MW - the bfing session I went to as part of the ANCs was next to useless really and I'm not sure if there's a bfing cafe or drop-in groups around here. I'll see how it goes anyway.
I've still not packed my hospital bag, which I know I need to do even if I'm planning a home birth. You are v lucky to get all that stuff on prescription! I've got some of that on my shopping list for when I go off on ML but will add a big tub of Vaseline (already have the Sudocreme) and witch hazel. (I'd put tee tree oil down for cuts/stitches.)
Pineapple - wow 24 weeks already and I remember when you were trying to get your dating and nuchal scans booked around the time you moved! How brilliant
I would definitely start try to getting some of those bits. We tried to order new furniture for DS (wardrobe and chest of drawers) as MiniWing will be getting his stuff
even though it's got blue fronts and Argos is out of stock which is a pain. Although the baby won't necessarily move into their nursery straight away, you will need somewhere for their clothes etc. MiniWing's are all currently in plastic bags and I want to put them away properly!
I hope your DH finds a job soon - is it an industry where there are lots of opportunities or are they few and far between? I read that Oz was in an economic boom at the moment (lucky you) so it shouldn't take too long?
And I hope notsoold's scan goes well today too. I'm not sure if she knows where this thread is but hopefully she'll find us and will give us good news
Wing....yes I knew but was lurking as not to post all the time...
Just back from the scan. Pg dated at 6 weeks and fetal pole with heartbeat present ...I am so relieved! Thank you so much for hand holding and patience....
Posting from hospital so I can not name check. Thank you all again!!!
So so pleased notso
I had a bit of a bleed yesterday evening so off to gp later, have also spoken to midwife who said she will get me a scan if I don't get anywhere with gp, bloody worrying business this having a baby lark!
Blondies....take care hun. I hope gp sort a scan asap for your peace of mind!!! Xxx
So pleased to hear that notso.
I'm on my first day of day patient care, all ok so far, just have to sit here for 3 hours whilst the fluids go through. Only a week til my scan now, can't wait for that.
Oh brilliant notso! Hopew you don't think I was hassling you
blondies I hope you do get a scan soon to put your mind at rest.
And waves - how are you feeling? Are you keeping anything down yet and do you think this new care plan is helping?
Hello all - like it when there's a new Fred and for once I have a bit longer to write.
notsoold that is fantastic news - am so happy to hear and that there was a heartbeat - hope its more plain sailing over the coming weeks than the first few weeks you've had.
wing I liked your countdown on the old one!!!
waves hope you start to feel better soon
pineapple good luck for the job hunt
dysgu fingers crossed your little one stays put a bit longer
something and teddy its nice you stay here - pics of your babies on FB are adorable!
rockchick let us know how the scan goes - its very exciting
I know I haven't namechecked all - but its lovely to read everyones news...
Well I'm now at 26 (nearly 27 weeks) so almost into 3rd trimester - still can't quite believe its happening!
We bought our pram and car seat a couple of weeks back - its an end of line one with a good price so I didn't want to run the risk of them all selling out. We almost had a wobble on the colours - I wanted the pram in red but the carrycot in black and fortunately we managed to get the last black carrycot! All is now delivered and as I am working from home I might have a bit of a play when I finish the jobs I've set myself for today (as long as I don't stay on MN too long!).
Our only other biggish purchase is probably going to be a cot - and I keep watching gumtree and ebay now to see if I can get a bargain!
Work has been mental lately - lots of travel but I had some great news yesterday. I work as a consultant but had been hoping to get into the training arm of a company I work with because I can do that just a few days a week or a month, whereas the consultancy work is always 5 days a week full-time. I was assessed yesterday by the head of the department and I will now be on their books for when I want to return to work It means I can do a bit of work and not lose touch with my industry while the baby is young/toddler, which should make it easier when I am ready (if I am ever ready!) to go back to consultancy work.
Last bit of news - midwife appointment today and bump measured for the first time. I'm spot on for size - was a bit worried that I was too big, but apparently not. Also nice to hear the heartbeat and confirm that little one seems to be happy in there...
Waves....I second wing questions ...and totally fx for this to work so you don't have to stay as in- patient xxx
Wing...ohhh honey.. I am grateful for your support!!! If you name mini wing after me than it would be a different story!!!
Great news notso You must be so happy.
Stuck You're just behind me. I am 28 + 2 today. Good news about your job.
Blondies how far along are you? Hope everything is ok.
Feel better soon Waves - you must be so fed up with it by now.
Bit late but congrats Hooya! Hope the scan was a nice experience & you didn't miss dildocam.
notso, big CONGRATULATIONS (only gave you a small one last week), so glad everything is looking good.
Blondies, will be keeping everything crossed for you.
Good luck today Rock.
waves, hope it all goes well for you as an outpatient, and hope you're close the end of it all. You're doing so well, you sound so much stronger this week. x
We're sticking with travel cots, DS was attempting to throw himself out of his 'normal' cot from about 7 months so he's been in the travel cot since then!
Good news about work & the bargain stuck!
<waves> at everyone else.
Hi all, just a quick update - scan was fine, bubba is measuring perfect for dates (nearly 8 weeks) and heartbeat is strong! Got a copy of the scan pic, and although tiny its definitely baby shaped which wasn't the case with DS's early scan at 7 weeks (looked like a baked bean ) so I'm over the moon! Dr google says risk of miscarriage is only 1% now having seen heartbeat at this stage so we've decided to tell friends and family, and announce to the world
Yay Notso glad your scan went well too!!
Ooh lots of happy scan news! So pleased for you Notso and Rockchick
Rock....congratulations!!! A good dayfor both of us!!!
Congratulations on good scans rock and notsoold. It's so reassuring to see a heartbeat at that early stage.
tired I can't believe she's smiling already, time is really going by quickly.
waves I'm glad there's a proper plan in place, hopefully this will work better for you.
pineapple I'm 23 weeks, and we bought our pram last week, mainly because we had decided which one we wanted and then watched for a sale. When the sale appeared we pounced! We also have some clothes bought by MIL. We're planning on leaving other big items closer to the time, to spread things out a bit.
My growth scan was ok yesterday morning, baby has grown but is still on the small side. And my dopplers were normal one side, high the other side and borderline when she averaged it out so I have another scan at 28 weeks to check growth. No one seems to know what it means, if anything, and I'm feeling quite relaxed now I know she's grown about the right amount over the last 2 weeks. Sometimes I think we investigate too much, if I hadn't had the screening bloods I wouldn't have known, and would just have had a normal scan with nothing to worry about. Can't say I mind the extra chances to see baby though!
Congratulations Rock and Notso. Fantastic news :-)
And that's a relief, Persuasion...as long as growth is at the right rate, that's got to be a good sign, I'd have thought?
Persuasion, good that she's growing and as long as that keeps happening I'd assume all is ok. Yes enjoy every chance to see her. Scans are lovely in that respect.
Hi everyone. Hope you are all well. Any exciting plans for mothers day those of you with dc already?
Persuasion...she is growing at her own rate ...
That is very good
Tired....my mum is spending the day with us. My dh adores her ( although they don't speak the same language)...
My dd will not come this mother's day as they will spend at her IL.
Dd is planning my surprise (not ) cake and a new mug( I don't officially know any of this...)
Notso how nice that your DH likes your mum so much! I also laughed when ds2 told me he's made a secret card at school!!!
Such great news Notso & Rock!!
Thanks for your replies re: buying baby's things. Guess it's good to get an idea what everyone is doing. My SIL did one big shop at 32 wks and got everything within 5-6 wks. We do have Mothercare here and similar stores which do the payment plans etc so we'll probably do a one stop shop when the time comes!
Wing - we are hoping something comes up soon for him. It is normally a thriving industry but hit a slump here in the past 6 months. I think it is a matter of right place, right time, right job...
Stuck - that's great you got your pram on sale! One thing ticked off the list!
Have made a list of things to buy, plus made wish lists on m&s and John Lewis websites. So much cheaper than Oz!
Persuasion, that is great to hear about bub's growth. I hope all continues to go well for you both. I also had doppler flows checked at 20 wks due to low Papp-A protein levels and will be having growth scan at 32 wks again.
Will post properly later but just wanted to say hurrah for notso and rock!
I made the mistake of forgetting the day of Mother's Day but remembering the date so when DH asked me early last week (considering I was extremely tired and wrung out after my travelling and the funeral etc) whether he could go to the footy 'next Sunday' I foolishly said yes! So after doing the refreshments at church in the morning (i.e. I'm doing all the baking for that), he's going off to Old Trafford and I'm taking DS to my DPs with another cake I plan to bake in hand.
Saturday though we are going to one of our favourite farm restaurant/shops near Clitheroe so that will be nice and actually baking with DS will be a lovely activity too.
I've had a soap and two homemade cards from DS already (he always wants to give me my presents NOW) and I'm happy not to get anything more really
Right, teleconference in 20 mins and I've not finished my document for it! Argh best go!
Popping in to say hurrah for Rock and notso - brought a big grin to my face! And persuasion sounds reassuring re the recent growth, and lovely to get more of a look at her!
Not been on much as now I'm past 12 weeks it feels like we've been either at work or on Skype all the time! So so much fun telling friends our news . The clinic give us a DVD which they add the video of the scan to each time - it's really difficult not to watch it every day
waves hope the new treatment plan is working better!
Wing I always 'wing' it before meetings - the best way to prepare
Pineapple are you going to buy some UK stuff and have it shipped? We are thinking of doing similar as Japan can be soooo expensive!
GBT ha ha re dildocam! We were showing a mate (whose wife had the same doctor for her pregnancy) the scan video and he said "that's not a dildocam image is it?" I felt much more like a proper pregnant person getting a belly scan!
Guinea hope you are feeling better
Dysgu I am going to copy and paste your lists
then lose them somewhere and have to come back here searching thanks!
tired yay for smiles
Child I envy you as I fear the stretchmarks - I have a few very pale ones just from quick weight gains in the past, but no more than a stone, so I dread to think what this will do to my belly...
Hi to everyone else I missed - happy Friday!
I've had a happy scan too Bang on for dates (well whats a day out at such tiny measurements!) Good position at the top of uterus, little heart thumping away and beginnings of legs and arms, 7 + 4 so hopefully time will go quicker till the 12 week mark, phew, looking forward to a good nights sleep xx
My MW has advised that I find out more about labour, so that I have less anxiety and am less likely to panic this time (that's why I had an epidural with my DS- just freaked out from the fear of more pain.)
I was reading a pregnancy book today. I started reading about episiotomies (I had one with DS) and caesareans. I had to stop reading as started feeling faint. How am I supposed to research all this when my brain can't cope with it? Oh dear. BTW, I am not normally a queasy person at all, and quite happily watch OBEM and medical programs.
Hooya - are you on our fb page? I'd love you to upload a bit of your scan video
Child - for birth trauma, I think some (community?) MWs run sessions or are happy to meet to go through past births. Can you contact whoever it is who runs ante natal classes in your area? Also I think doulas provide one-to-one ante natal sessions to help go through things without your brain shutting down. Just reading a book really might not help.
Otherwise, have you thought about posting a thread on here to ask people their advice on how they got over birth panic and flashbacks etc? I actually read this thread yesterday about birth trauma and it sounds similar to your fear/anxieties?
To be honest, I have never read in depth about episiotomies or CSs - sometimes it can be worth not knowing too much!?! I had a 2nd degree tear with DS and I've never looked up the differences between 1st/2nd/3rd degrees as I think I would seriously scare myself. There's a difference between being prepared and frightening yourself by going into every little potential problem or outcome?
I wish I could give you a hug! Have a instead
Blondies, that's fantastic news! Roll on 12wks!
^What Wing said Child.
I'm still a bit iffy about giving birth (felt like a failure going from planned homebirth to all the drugs/monitoring in hospital), but I've found watching OBEM (with DH, incase it gets to me) & reading about other people's experiences (good & bad) has helped....although I think your MW was wrong to advise you just to find out more about labour, given the anxiety you felt last time, is there someone else you can speak to about it for a 2nd opinion?
Wing, sounds like a lovely Saturday, hope the weather is decent for you.
Got into my Maternity Jeans for the first time yesterday (still needed a belt, but they didn't fall down), I forgot how comfy they are!
18wks tomorrow & it's hit me that we may, possibly, could, be having another baby. Won't believe it until it happens, but still..
Oooh, and just cos! Someone linked this poem on another fred, it was on Radio2 other day & it's lovely (have tissues at the ready);
The Last Time
The father, reading to his girl
some little tale they always read
is unaware that this may be
the last one that shell ever need;
shes grown past stories softly read
by daddy sitting on the bed.
The mother with her muddy son,
kicking a football in the park,
cannot sense as they wander home
through chilly, soft-approaching dark;
this was the last time theyd come out
to kick that happy ball about.
How secret, sneaky-soft they come:
those last times when well kiss it better,
hold their hand across the road
or lift them up to post a letter.
They pass unmarked, un-noticed; for
were not so needed any more.
So they abandon fairy tales,
and nursery rhymes that mummy sings
and leave behind soft toys and us -
and put away their childish things;
a loss so small. Our loss the greater,
unmissed, un-mourned, until years later.
Oh I saw that poem on the other thread (can't remember which one it was now...) and it is truely lovely but heartbreaking! <sob>
Thanks Gary and Wing
My MW said that she runs 'about birth' sessions, and has booked me for one in April, although I will need to check this.
Hopefully this will be good and helpful. I can't really afford a doula. It's weird, I've spoken with lots of mums about my birth, and it always helps. But there is something that makes me think I may fall apart as soon as contractions start properly, no matter how positive I feel about it (although a little anxious) now.
Also I need to remember that having an epidural is not failure. Even though I really want to give birth in the lovely birthing centre that doesn't look like a hospital if at all possible.
Blondies.....excellent news!!!! Xxx
Brilliant news Blondie!!
Child have you looked into natal hypnotherapy? I completely forgot all of the ideas behind it once I was in labour but it was amazing for calming me down in the preceding weeks - I was very nervous about labour!! A very good theory that I read was that your body won't put you through pain which you can't cope with as your pain receptors in your brain would just refuse to accept it! Don't know how true it is, but it certainly helped me despite DS being back to back with no gaps between contractions!
I'm hoping for a home birth this time, I think I'll be calmer in my own home without the stress of hospital!
Hooray blondies - what a great week for scans!
Child I can only sympathise. I did a lot of research and certainly hypnobirthing seemed to get very good reports, and I can recommend CBT for extreme anxiety (having suffered many years ago) - worth asking your GP about? Like GBT I have found reading about it the best option. My DP watched a full uncensored video of a CS before we decided on it - I didn't, but watched his face while he watched it, which was enough! We both agreed that there will be no peeking round the screen
And finally there is no such thing as failure when it comes to giving birth! Ok, I guess keeping your legs shut and refusing to take your pants off wouldn't be brilliant, but you know what I mean...
hooya...congratulations (sorry I am late )
Congratulations Blondies, so very pleased for you
Fantastic news, Blondies :-)
Wing, are you on your last week of work next week? So envious!
And hope all is well, Ted...come back soon to update us!
Just been catching up. Re scans they are so inaccurate Henry always mesured above the 50th percentile and his head of the chart he was a teeny 5lb 4oz born at 38+0. My 37 week scan estimated him to be 6lb 15oz....
Henry is now 3 weeks and 4 days! Seems to go even quicker on your second! Think he has a touch of reflux so need to book him into the gp.
I'm still getting my scar packed and dressed but DP says the hole isn't to big anymore
Wow something that has gone quickly
I've been baking today for church as we're doing the refreshments in the morning. So I've made biscuits just like these but heart-shaped for all the mums, then chocolate crispie nests (recipe from netmums because it was the best one I could find online but don't tell anyone! ) and finally, a cappuccino cake for my mum for Mother's Day tomorrow.
I am bloody knackered now and my back has given up! The 20-30 biscuits alone took me two hours this morning with all the modelling of the flowers and leaves, then we went out for a lovely lunch, came back and then straight into the choc nests and cake. <yawn>
How have all your days gone today?
MrsBri, yes LAST WEEK AT WORK!!! I cannot wait! Got a to do list still left of things I need to finish off but nothing too stressful so as long as I don't procrastinate Monday/Tuesday, it should all be fine
I have had a pretty quiet day and DP has been great keeping the girls busy so I can lounge around! The baby is either kicking so hard it hurts or else is so low that moving is difficult. Walking is okay for a short time - once I get going - but then the sciatica really sets in and it almost feels like I am walking so slowly that I am going backwards!
OTOH that cappuccino cake looks really good Wing - I might have a go at making it for my mum. We are taking her for lunch tomorrow but I might make it to take over to her on Monday as an extra surprise (and if my numbers are okay I might even agree to a tiny taste too )
Something Henry is getting really 'old' now and yes, the time goes so quickly with the second one. It is hard to imagine a time when they weren't there! Hope your scar is healing well - how much longer do you think you will have to have it packed for?
I have been reading up on BFing. I ordered this BF book and started reading it today. I am not sure whether it is a bit 'BF is the only way' for me but there does seem to be some useful information in there. I am meeting the lactation MW on Wednesday this week so come up with a plan!
Oh and wing I hope your last week at work goes smoothly. I have just finished my first week of ML and even though the two days I have DD2 are exhausting, it is lovely to have the other 3 days to 'nest'
Well, my day could have been better as I found out that DH has lost his job. :-/
Apparently it happened on Monday, but today was the first day he felt he could tell me for one reason or another.
Seems the guy he was working for was a knob and hasn't even paid him properly. So we need to get that from him.
We have a few irons in the fire, so will be OK for a bit. Hopefully something will come up soon though.
Your day sounds exhausting, as per, Wing! I'm always put to shame by how much you do!
Oh no MrsBri, that's crap news Yes you must get the money that's owed to you and work out if your DH's rights have been adhered to as well.
Dysgu, MiniWing has been kicking me recently right in my bladder/ladies bits. I have no idea how she gets down there! She's not engaged yet - well she wasn't at all at my MW appt 10 days ago and I can still walk without that proper waddling you get in late pg, it's just a big bump waddle at the moment. But you'll get some relief soon
eg when the baby pops out!
Right, must get something to eat. Hope you all have a lovely Mother's Day or Mother-to-Be's Day tomorrow
Mrs Bri I'm sorry to hear that about your DH job. I really hope it gets sorted out regarding the money owed and that he finds work very soon.
I've had a lovely weekend. On sat DH took the boys to see the new wizard of oz film while I had a wander around H&M (I had my colours done for my birthday in feb so am adjusting my wardrobe!) then we went for tea and cake in godalming a pretty little town near here. Today I had breakfast in bed and homemade cards. DH has made a photo collage of pictures of all the dc little fingers and toes, very cute. We then went to RHS wisley gardens. Very cold but nice. We finished the day watching Mary Poppins.
Mrs Bri so sorry to hear about job loss, crappy timing, and hope you are able to manage untill a new job can be started. your poor dh probably feels terrible!
You lot talk! on page 4 by the time I even find the new fred!
Rock re potty training, my dd has only recently turned two but always tells me when she has done something and has been known to ask for potty and occasionally produce something. But she cant pull down nappy or trousers herself and only just manages to sit on a potty without catching her vest or dress. Im very aware of the possibilty of regression, so with all the other changes taking place, i think i might be wise to hold off till summer, and baby is settled etc.
Now on night number 4 with my dd in big girl bed, feel very sad walking past an empty cot, she feels all grown up already!
Oooh, i got choccies and flowers and a cup of coffee in bed this morning! I felt pampered but think I might hold out for breakfast in bed next time!
Oh so sorry to hear about DH job MrsBri . I can kind of relate as my DH is job hunting since our move over here and often does et him down. But I am working and trying to keep him positive. That's all you can do really... How is your DH? And you?
Wing - yay for your last week of work! Is it going to be a busy week or winding down?
We have a bank holiday today so I'm really going to relax and enjoy it. It is stinking hot though and not nice whilst pregnant! Take care all x
Thanks all...I'm not so bad, for now, but in a month or so I'll start to worry, I think. See how we fare.
DH is pissed off, but actually feels relief as the bloke was a knob! Sadly he hadn't been there long enough to sue, but he is legally entitled to the week's notice and accrued holiday the idiot hasn't paid. He abound get the letter today telling him to pay it by 25th. If it doesn't appear, we need to ring ACAS again for the next step, which I imagine is a 7 day letter, then we will sue for it. He's messing with the wrong people as a) I know how to sue as I do it for a living and b) we aren't stupid. Unlike him!
Enjoy your final week, Wing :-)
Hope everyone else is ok and you didn't suffer too much in the heat, pineapple.
I'm glad you know your stuff legally MrsBri! Hope he doesn't put up much of a fight.
Pineapple - "stinking hot" is not allowed when us lot in the UK at basking in siberian minus figure temperatures!
tired it sounds like you were thoroughly spoiled this weekend and Practising choccies and flowers and a cuppa sounds great too!
I had a lovely day yesterday too. DH went to Old Trafford
we won't mention the result and I took DS over to my DPs. DM had received absolutely nothing from my brother, not even a text and I had a good chat with both DPs individually in the few hours I was there. There is obviously more to this situation than I'm sharing on here but it seems as if the relationship was very one-sided (i.e. my parents doing all the help, love, contact etc) even before they moved up here and this was just the catalyst to what has become a terrible situation. I don't think my mum is coping very well though - I mean, imagine if it was one of our babies who did this to us in 30-40 years time? After all the love we pour into growing them, having them, bringing them up and doing so much for them and then to have it effectively thrown back in our faces?
But DM loved the scarf I bought her (found on a MN scarf thread actually!) and the cake I made, even though it was a little dense.
Right, must get stuck into this work to do list so I can seriously wind down the second half of the week! Then I'll just have to start on the baby to do list...
Morning! Hope everyone was spoiled rotten yesterday
mrsbri that really does suck about your DH's job, fx he finds something else very soon. And hopefully you can get what you're owed from the
tosser ex-boss in the meantime.
wing I can't believe it's your last week at work, it really seems to have flown by!
pineapple just at your lovely weather!!
Happy monday everyone
Sitting in the drs waiting to get my wound redressed and packed. It really smells so I'm hoping its not infected. I'm hoping the stitches can come out today to nurse last week was reluctant to take them out and she didn't have enough information.
Hope everyone is ok and had a lovely day yesterday. I sure did
Hi something. Hope you are healing ok? Glad you had a nice day yesterday. How's Henry?
Oh dear something - I hope the wound isn't infected either
I just found this animated babycentre labour video online. It's actually really interesting (if a bit sped up!). Although the mucus plug bit made me a bit bleugh!
WING that's the video I showed my DS's when they asked me how the baby was getting out?
Aha - I may show it to DS then
I've just got back from a nearly new sale and got a fantastic Moses basket bargain! Brand new (not sold as such but I cannot see a smudge on it and the cotton bumper etc looks perfect), with stand and two blankets as well.... FIVE POUNDS! It is such a massive weight off my mind as that was the one last thing I really needed. A mummy friend of mine offered me one until her DBro needed it at the end of July but I wanted to get one tonight if I could.
Didn't really get anything else for MiniWing apart from two nice cotbed duvet sets for when she's older and one pair of trousers and one dress (but I've been given lots of clothes already) but I did get tons of books for DS.
DM and I had to wait in the snow for 45 mins before we went in. We were the second car there but waited 20 mins before joining the queue. My friend who we went with said there were only about half the normal number of people there and there was a lot left over when we left (we were near the end to leave!), so the weather must have out lots of people off.
Still - Moses basket! And it's pink
Sounds like a great purchase Wing! Not so keen on waiting in the snow though. It's been bitterly cold here today.
Ooh excellent bargain hunting wing sounds lovely!
Feeling sorry or myself this morning (and a teeny bit panicky stupidly) as I slipped and fell on the ice this morning. Got a scraped knee and a torn coat for my troubles but didn't land on bump at all so I know everything is fine but still can't help worrying a little come and tell me how stupid I'm being please!
Aww, Kitten you poor thing! I had a bad fall around 30 weeks when having DS and even though I knew I hadn't landed on my bump I was terrified! I'd sprained my ankle and went to A&E but they weren't concerned about me being pregnant - they said that the baby is very well protected even if I'd landed on it, but if you're worrying then trust your instinct and go get checked out for your own peace of mind!
Kitten i got crushed by a horse when around 5 weeks DS is a happy healthy cheeky 13 months now.
So re my scar nurse and dr didn't like how it looked so sent me to the hospital. Drs at the hospital swab it clean it take the stitches out and say it doesn't look to bad
Thanks girls . Goodness something crushed by a horse certainly puts things into perspective, you poor thing! Glad the wound is healing nicely after all.
Ooh dysgu does your fb update mean what I think it might??!!
Kitten I came on here to post exactly the same thing!!! Ooooooooooh
WING KITTEN give me a hint please?!
I'll send you her details on FB. Latest status says: Here we go!!!!
Looks like she may not be attending that lactation MW appt tomorrow after all!
Oooh, fingers crossed Dysgu - good luck!!!
Fingers crossed it's labour Dysgu & not just singing along to Chemical Brothers
something, glad Dr's went well & you seem to be healing fine, how are you feeling?
MrsBri, sorry about the job loss, although fantastic that you know your stuff.
(caffine free) for Kitten, DS kicked me in the stomach earlier today & I feel sicky (but the same as when he kicks me & not pregnant, so not worried) so I shall join you on the minor injuries bench.
<waves> at everyone else.
Gary - hahaha!
Kitten sorry I forgot to ask how you were feeling eariler Hope you're not too achy.
<shuffles up for gary> do you think someone will be along in a minute with a magic sponge for us like they have for "injured" players in football matches?
I'm fine thanks wing - defo more pissed off about tearing my lovely coat than anything else now!
Hmm, artistic shabby chic patch on your coat?
Ooh...good luck Dysgu!
Her babies don't like to stick around, do they?! Glad we've decided to be ready at 30 weeks after hearing about her deliveries.
Hope the occupants of the minor injuries bench feel better soon :-)
And good buy, Wing...I need to order a bespoke mattress for our Moses basket as it's almost 60 and bigger than the ones you get now. Must remind DH to bring it home later!
It also needs lining, but DH's mum has found somebody who can do that for us. Hopefully it won't be too dear.
How's the final week going, Wing? I start working from home one day a week from tomorrow. Can't wait to a) get up at 7.15, not 5.45 and b) not do my 90 minute commute each way! Bliss.
Oh, and I get to not answer the phone. Bliss!
hangs head in shame for being a rubbish MNer at the moment
I have been so busy recently I haven't even had chance to lurk. But thank fully I finish my teaching on Thursday and will just continue working at home until I can get my last piece of PhD work done.
Sounds like a few people have been in the wars - hope you all feel better soon.
I have finally got an appointment with the SoM. I am having a meeting about my homebirth on Thursday afternoon with a HB midwife, SoM and a consultant obstetrician. Hopefully they will be supportive but I am armed and ready with evidence just in case they're not!
I've really been suffering with what I could only describe as rib pain but it feels deeper than that, so maybe diaphragm pain (if that's even something you can get ?) It seems to be related to the baby's position and seems to be worse at night when I've been lying down for a while. I have been relegated to the sofa for fidgeting too much!
I'm not sure who I am friends with on FB but sounds exciting re. Dysgu. Someone at church who is - or was - due around the same time as you Wing gave birth yesterday. She had a baby boy who is small but perfectly formed, so that's good news. People keep saying to me 'can't have got long now'
because I'm the size of a whale and I know it's theoretically only 6 weeks but it feels like forever away! Especially because I know that in all likelihood I am going to go 2 weeks over because I seem to 'cook' my babies for ages!
DH is out tonight so I'm going to sit on our
new and exciting sofa with a Creme Egg and watch Grey's Anatomy or Casualty.
Hope you all have a good evening. Will hopefully keep upto MN a bit more from now on as I do miss hearing what everyone is up to.
I'm watching Masterchef - hurrah it's back! Sooooo scary to think that I will probably be watching this same series at silly hours in the morning while I feed new MiniWing!
Guinea I was just thinking the other day how the bump inside me is now actually a child and not just a growing foetus/baby. She could arrive within the hour
please don't though little one! and, as for your church friend, she'd be absolutely fine. Argh!
I also get the rib intense pain, especially when I'm in bed. Yes, I think it's to positioning but I doubt she's going to engage any time soon to give me any relief.
Isn't it mind blowing to think just how far we have all come from when we were on the JSing thread, JSing EOD 'like something', then that 2WW, each of us getting our BFPs, then scans at various stages and on until WOW our babies have started arriving! It's enough to make me a bit emotional. I luff you guys!
<passes tissue box to wing> you big sap
I know. Time seems to have gone both incredibly fast and incredibly slow - those first few weeks until first scan and 12 week 'safety' were agonising but here we are, some with babies, some just about to but all of us having bringing up new children this year.
I also share your excitement for tv programming...I can't wait for Home Delivery to start on ITV. Next week they'll be 2 baby programmes to get hormonally weepy about
<blows nose> Thanks kitten
Guinea if you mean OBEM I'm usually more likely to shout at the tv at the annoying
men couples and the way the midwives are working than blubbing!
At doctors as Fern is having her first immunisations and 8 week check today. She really wailed!
Aww poor little Fern Hope she doesn't feel too poorly with them!
wing i know what you mean about shouting at the TV when OBEM's on - my DH is awful, he can be a
lot bit of a snob and will constantly pass judgement on all the couples. I shouted at him for it a few weeks ago (I couldn't hear the telly over his bitching!) so now he just sits quietly raising his eyebrows and rolling his eyes every 5 seconds....! And I'm sure a couple of those midwives aren't old enough to have left school yet!
Yes I spend most of the show getting cross but I always cry when the babies are born - just can't help it!
Kitten, maybe some of that special spray stuff they use after a footballer has been injured and is rolling around dying....and the magic liquid they drink, limp off, sip of 'water' & they're back on tackling.
Footballers salary would be nice too
I'm still on the injury bench, managed to mess up my shoulder last night, can't lift DS on one side or bump the buggy up/down <faints dramatically>
Wing, I've put it into record (Masterchef that is!)! Very happy it's back, tried Masterchef Australia for a while but it t'was rubbish.
Although I never find a couple on OBEM I 'like', like Guinea the second the baby appears I cry, and then usually judge the name.
<calpol> for Fern tired, still can't believe we have proper babies here! <steals tissue box off Wing>
18+4 today, scan in two weeks. Starting to drag a bit....
Nooooooo gary, Masterchef Australia is bloody brilliant! You have to stick with it through the first few episodes where there's a gazillion finalists, but once they get the final 24 they all move into the Masterchef house and it becomes Masterchef meets big brother only better! I actually can't stand the uk version, it's so dull and serious by comparison!
I have just got home and must say it is lovely to be home as I felt something like a spare part sitting around waiting for something to happen but also knowing it was for the best if nothing happened. I did get a snapshot of other women going through the angst and pain of labour though - that is the part you forget about even when you have done this twice before!
However, I also got a preview of life on the maternity unit where all the midwives and doctors are lovely, as are the ancillary staff (probably a proper name for them but I mean the cleaners, the people who bring the meals etc) and the place was really warm and clean. They even have disposable bath mats in the shower rooms for avoiding standing on the floor- although everything was spotless!
I spent most of yesterday in a day ward which had three beds in. We had a window bay so could watch the snow but it was very warm as the heating was on... also had an impromptu visit from my MW and then in the evening our ante natal group came round for their visit (which we had ummed and aahed about attending - the irony!)
They managed to stop the contractions yesterday so it was all very odd - previous attempts with DD1 and DD2 failed so we thought it would all be over by lunchtime but obviously different drugs and the extra stuff I am taking anyway mean my body responded differently and baby is holding on. Is all a bit uncomfortable really - head is really low and still leaking fluid - but I know it is better for the baby if we can keep it in. Also have ABs to take for the next 9 days (or until the baby arrives) to avoid infection and have to go back to hospital every 2 days and have to see the consultant every 4 days - being on 'bed rest' is going to be quite exhausting
Sorry for the mememe post - hope everyone else is doing well.
Wow Dysgu - such a lot of visits etc you've got to go through! I'm rubbish - please remind me how far along you are now? Is there a point when they'll say 'right, baby's coming out now'? Eg 35 weeks or something or is it just as long as possible?
I've got my 36wk appt tomorrow at 36+5 and I'm not sure what she'll do apart from feel the baby's position? I can't remember when my next appt is after then either (I must look it up on my green notes).
I've just had a 50min skype call with the person currently in Australia (but is English) who is due to take on my role while I'm off. I'm blinking knackered now and I just can't wait to finish work on Friday. I have a handover teleconference with my line manager tomorrow but got a lot of the proper work done today so I should only now have things like expenses claim to do, clean up my laptop of old files and emails, that sort of thing. I want a dossy day on Friday!
Wing I am 34 weeks today - which is a good time but they really hope to keep the baby in a bit longer. I think no one really expected the contractions to stop yesterday so no one knows what is going to happen. I saw a lovely doctor and he just said he could not say what or when things would happen but if we can keep the baby in for at least another week it will put it in a much better position medically. Obviously he could like it to stay in until 37 weeks but did not reckon what was likely - but said that if I got to 37 weeks then they would induce me.
And I have come home like a walking pharmacy - I have to do extra blood tests to ensure my blood sugar is staying normal, my trial pessaries have stopped so they have given my progesterone as that helps to maintain a pregnancy and then I have antibiotics to be taken every 6 hours. DDs are 'fighting' over who gets to play nurse!
DD1 especially found it very hard coming home from school yesterday and finding me not here. My DMum collected DDs from school/pre-school - DD2 went with the flow but DD1 was tearful and stayed that way until I came home today. We were a bit naughty actually: DD1 had a hospital appointment today anyway with her consultant for straight after school - so DP collected her after afternoon registration and brought her to see me at the hospital. I gave her a tour of the unit so she knew where I was. She was really happy when they said I could home this evening but at least now she knows where I will be when it happens again and she is now ready for it to happen again!
Your poor DDs And yay for labour stopping. Perhaps your care team have learnt something from the last two?!
I've got my MW appt this morning. Completely underwhelmed by it now
One more day... <sung a la Les Mis>
Well everything fine at my end. Full term tomorrow!
Apparently there was a slight trace of ketones in my urine sample so the MW has sent it off for testing. (Embarassingly I'd only managed to squeeze out a few mm of wee this morning as I was rushing out of the door whereas normally I give a full pot!) Sorry - TMI
I can't remember what that means but I feel absolutely fine and have had a bit of (TMI alert again) creamy white discharge which I was ignoring but it's probably linked so could be thrush, who knows. I have to ring up on Monday for the results.
When the MW and I were going through the MW schedules to see if the lead MW was going to be around for my next appt in two weeks time, she checked and it seems that my lead MW (the lovely one who brought my HB box over and went through it all with DH and I) is actually on holiday from now until 3rd April so I very much doubt she'll be around to do my HB Bit sad about that as this MW is a crazy-hyper-loves-her-mascara MW and I'm not sure I'll be as calm with her around. Oh well, we'll just have to see what day and what time it is as to who turns up I suppose!
Dysgu!!! I am very happy for you that they managed to control the contractions!!! Take easy babe!!!
Wing almost there then!!!! Shame about MW being on holiday for your HB !!! Booo hoo to that!!! But maybe you will be surprised be the MW onn the day!!!!
Gary...I bet the time is dragging but will arrive soon! And then, the 20week scan will be done and you will have more photos of little one :
Kitten I hope you are well!!!xxx
Sorry I have been missing! I was going to be a birth partner for a friend in beginning of April, but baba did not wait and after lots of stress for Mum and family baby Alex arrived and I was there!!! Second time I am someone birth partner but first time since ttc and I thought...OOMMGG it hurts!!!! But Mum was happy I was there and I am happy to help her and quite honoured to see another brad new person arriving!!!
Hello to everyone!!!! I booked a private scan on 22th March (will be 8 weeks then). I hope it will help my nerves...
I've just seen
on the evil Facebook Dysgu popped this morning at 3am-ish!
I won't spoil things for her by telling you the details on here
Boo to AWOL midwife though, Wing.
Notso, I think an 8 week scan is a good idea. Should help with the nerves. For a short while!!
Struggling to cope at work at the moment thanks to working with a bunch of lazy bitches. HR are as much use as a chocolate teapot too. :-/
MrsBri if you want to moan about work, feel free. I'm sure we can offer some advice
notso, I agree about the scan too. You'll be counting down the days then?
Wow was just reading the posts and going to write something about how its the home straight now for wing and dysgu but it looks like dysgu has gone and finished!
Congrats - can't wait to hear the details and see some pics...
wing I think you must be next to get a snuggly newborn to cuddle. Hopefully you can relax and enjoy your remaining days now...
notsoold that sounds lovely - to be at a birth but not on the painful side. Must be quite emotional knowing that it will be you eventually and you get to see your baby soon with the extra scan...
Starting to count down the days to finishing work here - its quite sad as my remaining tasks are all about wrapping up the piece of work I've been doing. Although its contract work I've been here since June last year so its like I've become 'part of the furniture'.
Also just had a text from boyfriend and I've had a successful ebay bid and made another baby purchase - am starting to get the hang of this babystuff shopping! (Have got a baby bean bag to plonk the little one in so I can at least go to toilet/have shower/make cup of tea!)
MrsBri I've yet to find a decent HR department anywhere that I work -it seems to be a common thing!
(apologies if anyone on this thread works in HR )
Wing.... I am counting the days. And the hours
Stuck...it was quite lovely and kid of intense. Knowing that (hopefully) I will be there at the hospital was weird!!! (different hospital,but YKWIM)
Ooh exciting can't wait for the details Dysgu!
Wing, it might even be a different MW altogether? Happy end if work for tomorrow.
Notso, 22nd is a good date, it's my DH birthday!
ooh how exciting for dysgu can't wait to hear all the
wing hurrah for reaching full term and finishing work on the same day, what a lovely way to end the week
mrsbri sorry you're having a crap time at work. Don't you started working from a home a little bit soon? Hopefully that might make things a bit easier.
notso how lovely to be able to be there for your friend - must have been weird to be thinking "that will be me soon"!
stuck baby bean bags? What is this thing? I must google immediately as I think I want one!
Is a baby bean bag like this? I love the yawning baby in the main pic!!
Yes tired I was always expecting it will be a random MW so as not to get my hopes up but having met my lead MW now a couple of times recently and as she was the one to come round and discuss everything with us I was really hoping she'd be around. I knew the chances were slim anyway as she is part time but being on annual leave completely wipes the chances unless MiniWing doesn't come early (DS was 3 days early and they also pushed my EDD back by 8 days at the dating scan) which I doubt.
Right, have got my handover teleconference in an hour so I just want to finish off a few bits before then
(And Stuck oooh snuggly newborn baby smell!)
Congrats Dysgu , can't wait to hear all about it!
I have 15 minutes more of teaching (its my office hr hence the MNing) and then I'm done! Not quite full maternity leave but at least I can work at home now and not have to trek in to University. Might treat myself to a tonight! Sending one to you for tomorrow Wing !
Sorry to hear about your MW being away. This happened to ne when I was pregnant with DS and planning a HB and I was so disappointed at the time. Hopefully when it comes to it you will be visited by a wonderful MW who, if you're anything like me, you will be eternally grateful for and have no idea what her name was or what she looked like .
Would love to be a birth partner notso - congrats to your friend and good luck with the early scan.
Right, going to finish boxing up my stuff for when we move to a new office building during my leave and then its off to the hospital for my meeting with SoM and consultant. Wish me luck!
GOOD LUCK GUINEA!!
And yes, good idea about tomorrow night!
yep that's the type WD and that baby is so cute! the harness bit can be changed as the baby becomes a toddler so its a bean bag for their room.
I couldn't decide what kind of bouncy chair would be useful given that the comments seem to vary between my baby loved it, to my baby hated it and there are so many different types and prices that I decided not to get one at all and then I saw these and thought that even if the baby hates it - it may be useful once they're at toddler stage and so wouldn't be a complete waste of money! (Plus buying it on ebay for a fraction of its new price!!!)
The baby beanbag looks amazing! We've bookmarked it to buy when baby outgrows the bouncy chair we've already bought
Good grief someone in this train smells like they've not washed in a month, it's properly grim. An having to keep my face in my scarf not to vom <-- puke face
I hate smelly train people...I seem to encounter them all the time.
There's a woman who gets on my train in the morning who has a range of coats that could be bath mats, kind of, or 70's cushion covers, and they smell rank. That musty, got damp and not dried properly, smell. Makes me want to puke and she insists on sitting near me. In face, she's a 'race the preggo to a seat' culprit!
Now you tell me Masterchef Oz is awesome, dammit! Thanks for the warning Kitten, will catch it next time around.
Masterchef UK clashed with something in the planner last night, so I'm not even watching that now.
I want a beanbag, DS Hated his bouncychair, only liked the swing. Expect this one to be just as awkward.
MrsBri, my best mate & I gave nicknames to everyone on the train to work about 5 years ago....everynow and again I get a random text saying 'OMG! Just seen Fishfork',
Fishfork doesn't sound as fun to sit next to as MustyCoat.
Ha ha...I sometimes see Banana Man on my evening train. He's a bloke who always eats a banana on the way home! Makes commuting not so bad.
There's also Fat Twat. No explanation required! He wears half mast tracksuit bottoms which also have holes in. Nice :-/
We have a bouncy thing. Hope Baby B approves! :-)
Hi all - yes, Evan David Nelson Langford made a quick, early arrival at 3.16 am this morning after something of a dash to the hospital! He weighs exactly 5 lb and is perfect.
I did have niggling pains at around 11pm but they were not hurting and as contractions had stopped on Tuesday I did not pay them much attention and headed to bed. I was woken with a GUSH at 2.05 am and within 5 minutes big contractions were coming. I timed a few and they seemed to be up to 90 seconds long and coming every 2 or 3 minutes so I woke DP about 2.25 am and called my parents to come over to be with DDs.
DDad headed over - but whilst living very close, the floating bridge that connects to two towns does not run between midnight and 5am so he had to drive the long way round and there are traffic works that cause a long diversion - even though there was very little traffic!
DDad arrived and we left home at 2.55 am. We are close to the hospital so were there by 3.05 am and I had been told when I called to head straight for Labour Ward and not maternity. As I walked in to Labour Ward they were just preparing a delivery room so I had an other contraction before climbing onto the bed. MW was connecting the monitor and trying to take my BP etc and I told her I needed to push. She told me all was fine and gave me the gas and air so I told DP to tell her I needed to push! They managed to undress me from the waist down after my second contraction on the bed.
I remember saying "it's coming. I promise you, it's coming" and she said yes, it was fine.
And there was a baby on the bed between my legs! We had been in the delivery room less than 10 minutes!
I think everyone was surprised at just how quickly he made an appearance! I think he rode out on a wave of amniotic fluid as the place was soaked (and my slippers, which were on the floor, have had to be binned!)
1st degree tear so no stitches. Gas and air to deliver the placenta.
Dp went down to NICU where they had taken the baby and came back with first pictures. Then DP headed home and was home before DDs got up for school/pre-school. They came to meet their baby brother after school and have declared they love him and want him to come home soon and that we should keep him!
I am now home - hoping to get some sleep in my own bed and hospital is a hard place to sleep as alarms go off all the time. They don't have a transition ward here - that is the next step and they are currently setting it up. I will go in again in the morning and have been given a pump to use as we try to establish a milk supply. Nothing happening yet - at all - with hand expressing or the pump but I will keep going. I have struggled before and only managed to express any milk until both DDs' due dates before giving up....
Hope all else are well - off to sleep for a bit before trying to express again.
Oh congratulations Dysgu , and I hope that Evan is home with you soon. What a quick delivery too - I bet DDs are pleased to have you home so quickly. Good luck with the expressing
I'm feeling in brighter spirits today, despite all that is going on with the horrible hyperemesis and Twuntish STBXH. I had my 20 week scan, and everything looks perfect, and I'm having a little boy Now the fun of thinking of baby names, and whittling down a list.
All the talk of smelly train people reminds me why I am SO pleased I don't live in mainland UK anymore, no trains where I am and my daily commute is a 10 minute walk along quiet lanes. DCs are at school a 3 minute walk away, and the nursery place I have reserved is at the nursery at the top of my hill, equidistant between my house and DCs school.
Off to bed for me now, shattered still from the ongoing vomiting and stress of the domestic situation!
Mahoosive congratulations Dysgu but it all sounds very dramatic!! How long do they expect Evan to stay in NICU for? My friend's little one was kept in due to being prem and she was allowed to breastfeed rather than expressing, maybe ask if that is an option if it's something you would want to do, particularly once your milk comes in? Even if it's just one or 2 feeds per day, obviously you can't be there all the time with having other kids!
Oh Waves, congrats - little boys are amazing!! Have you narrowed the list of names down yet?
Rock I am not doing so well on name narrowing down, I love Osian, Dylan, Sebastian, Caspian, Corin, Arlo and Jules at the moment - but that may well change. DS and DD are hugely excited at the prospect of a baby brother, and with them being so much older I'm sure they will want to be actively involved in looking after him. At least it will be easier than last time (only 17 months between DS and DD), and DS2 is due end of July, so it will be school holidays too. I hope we have a lovely summer as I am having dreams of making home made icecream and sunbathing on the patio for a couple of months
Wonderful news Dysgu! S pleased to hear about Evan and his safe arrival. How lovely to have a little boy too. Hope you are resting and feeling ok.
Waves, you do sound brighter! Another DS for you too and I love all the names on your list! Ice cream sounds rather wonderful maybe we should all come and visit
Congrats Waves on a great scan and finding out you're having DS2. I love the name Sebastian but it was vetoed by OH - totally irrelevant in the end as we have found out we are having a girl! We have chosen a name but am keeping quiet until she arrives .
What an entrance to the world baby Evan. Good news that you're allowed to keep him Dysgu . Have you thought about using a supplemental feeding system? This allows you to 'top up' milk for baby with expressed breastmilk or formula at the same time as breastfeeding - this helps build up your supply as well as being lovely for you and baby. I know its a pain, but might also be worth waking up to express at night. Prolactin levels are higher at night and is a key factor in milk production. Glad you're home and managing to rest. Hope you can all be together as a family soon. (p.s. am slightly of your speedy labour/delivery - do you think I could book one of those?!)
My meeting went really well today though what was meant to be half an hour ended up being 2! I was certainly grilled regarding what I would/would not want/expect/accept as part of my care, but it was done in a supportive rather than aggressive way. They are supportive of my homebirth so have been transferred to the hospital where the HB is based. I am, however, going in to make a hospital birth plan with a senior MW just in case transfer is required
because I definitely won't be coherent during labour but otherwise I'll see one of the HB MWs at home at 37 weeks.
It was strange being in the same hospital that I was watching on TV last night. We had our meeting in the active birth room with the pretty lights and the ceiling rope/swing thing. Plus one if the MWs was on the programme the other week. I'm embarrassed to say I felt a bit giggly .
Aww congrats Dysgu! Welcome to little Evan . Such lovely news!
Guinea - glad your meeting went well. Very cool your hospital was on telly!
We have picked a name ourselves as we know baby's sex but are one of those couples not telling! Middle name will be one of DH parents names, which I guess I am fine with. Had our heart set on one name for a while but we came across this one which is more unique and injustvlike it more IMO!
Great news of scans recently, bet it is a relief! I'll be 26 wks this weekend, hospital checkup next week then glucose test the week after. Baby stuff shopping possibly this weekend or next, I think it's going to make it so much more real when we buy things .
Not sure why but feeling a bit down today . Lot of stress (created by only myself!) re DH's no-work situation. I know it won't be forever & these things take time but I am worried about what may happen, worried about DH's well-being etc etc. Someone just give me a kick up the bum please and snap me out of this!! Baby needs a positive and happy mumma . Anyway I am sure I will be fine, just one of those things that builds up over time I think & I'm letting it get to me.
Wishing u all a good Friday x
Congratulations! When Henry was in scbu they gave me a screen so I could express sitting next to him. Really worked for me but then Henry was term even though he was a size of a 34/35 week baby.
Not much to report here. Dressings getting changed today.
Congratulations Dysgu...what a speedy labour! Hopefully Evan won't be in SCBU too long and you can all be at home together. :-)
And congrats to Waves too on finding out you're having a boy. I love your names. I like Sebastian too, but decided we weren't rich enough for it, ha ha! And DH wouldn't have liked it either.
Though he's surprised me with the boy's name we've agreed to as I thought he'd hate it!
We aren't telling many people our names. The boy's middle name is my mum's dad / Bri's brother and the girl's middle name is my dad's mum, so I get a family name in both, bearing in mind they'll have DH's surname.
Only 35.5 days left at work today. Thank god. Not feeling any better about the awful people I work with, but determined they won't push me out.
We've been told the whole company will be reviewed re redundancies after April, with one department under 30 day consultation as of now, so I think they're quite concerned about what will happen. They should be as they only work for half of the day, choosing to sit talking for the rest of it, so as productivity is bound to be looked at, they should well worry!
I'd probably go voluntarily if offered, as I qualify for SMP anyway now and I could then look nearer home when I felt ready. Sadly, my job may be safe!
Welcome to the world Evan! Hope you are feeling better soon Dysgu and you can establish feeding that works for you...
Sending lots of positive vibes for pineapple and waves and anyone else that needs a pick me up... Just think of cuddling your baby in a few weeks or months (whichever is appropriate!)
Mrs Bri that redundancy situation has happened to me twice - I was prepared to leave but wasn't selected. Its really tough when people around you are upset and don't want to go, but you can't... Arghhh...
I'm glad Seb/Sebastian gets our thread approval - its no.1 on our boys list of names! Although I'm going to be trying to bring him/her up in Polish so there's a chance of being bilingual so we'd probably use Sebek, which is the cuter Polish way of saying the name for a little boy. Finding girls names much harder and the 2 front runners don't really have a Polish equivalent...
Hope you all have a good Friday... If I don't get a call today then I've passed my GTT test, and I've sneakily decided to work at home. Am shattered and so if pulled up on it am going to use the pregnancy card for the first time. Will still get the work done so it shouldn't be a problem. I'm starting to count down - 10 working days left!
Ah window man is here still in my dressing town.
Wow, what an exciting and speedy birth story Dysgu! Congrats again
waves, we're all thinking of you - and your little boy!
Guinea, I hope that all means you get the birth you want. Do you mean the hospital is the one on OBEM?
Pineapple it's completely normal to feel down about work situations and your DH even without being 25-26wks pregnant. My DH was made redundant just over two years ago (which was the catalyst for us moving Oop North) but these things do work out. Just think, if he doesn't get a job in the next few months, he'll be around more to help when the baby arrives!
I love the name Sebastian too but DH also vetoed it for being too posh (a la Brideshead Revisited)! Good job we're having a girl then
We decided on the first name of MiniWing driving back from the 20wk scan and had decided on a middle name too (one I've always loved for a girl) but DH wants to change the middle name to something Man U-related. Yes really!! It's actually a lovely and pretty normal girl's name and for DS he chose the first name and I chose the middle name (my dad's name Raymond, poor DS! ) so I will probably let him have this one if he really does want it.
LAST DAY woo hoooo! Better get my last expenses claim written out!
Thanks Wing . I am so lucky to be able to vent here!
Have a fantastic last day at work!!
Thanks Stuck! And I really like Sebek, sounds very cute indeed .
We have a super long surname so a name that is short or able to be shortened is a must!
Omg dysgu that really is a speedy and exciting entrance! Really hope Evan is home with you all very soon and that the expressing gets easier.
waves so glad you're feeling a bit brighter, and mahoosive congrats on your little boy! Love your name choices too - I have Arlo on my shortlist, but DH isn't keen at the moment. I am of your 10min commute and lovely village life.
mrsbri I'm sending redundancy vibes your bosses way, maybe it'll help!
wing happy last day, hurrah!
We have a little shortlist of names on the go now...only one or two that we agree on though so far! We mentioned our current favourites to a few people last week and got a few faces. Was a bit upset with my bf though who said "just no" to our boys name and openly laughed and took the mickey out of our girls name. I think she thought it came across as friendly teasing, but I was actually quite hurt I know I'm oversensitive though so didn't say anything. Just won't tell her any others I really like.
<waves> to everyone I've missed.....I know I've missed loads but I'm too hungry to think straight right now, must go and get some lunch!
Henry's now weighing 7lb 15oz at a month old. He's put on 2lbs 11oz since birth. He has reflux but it doesn't appear to be stopping the weight gain
All of you talking about names really should be testing them out with us
Something that's great about Henry.
Oops Stuck you shared Sebastian Sebek. A lovely name indeed!
<wipes tears> Dysgu, that's a lovely birth story...hope you get to take him home soon.
Stuck, We're got a Seb & we get lots of compliments over it.
I've got Eastern European roots, but DH vetoed anything too out there...would love a Violetta, Milena or Maja!
Well done Henry for the weight gain something!
Wing, hope you get to put your feet up from now on!
A few weeks ago, there was a boy called Trafford in one of the tacky (think it was Take a Break!) mags at the Dr's surgery....don't let your DH know that!
Waves, love your list of names, so glad you can focus on the positives no matter how stressful it is for you.
We've got a huge (78 boys names, 65 girls names!) list of names, so hopefully if we find out the sex we can start whittling it down, although we won't pick the name until we meet him/her.
Dysgu....hope Evan gets home soon!
Well we are already negotiating names as it always takes forever and also something that my relatives in Brazil can pronounce.
Gary, DH will not be using the name Trafford!
Well I'm on maternity leave now with a large glass of lovely thanks to Guinea!
I didn't mention yesterday that the MW said she thought MiniWing is back-to-back at the moment. I wasn't too worried but I've looked it up now
a lot and I really think I should be doing something about it My BF trainee MW sent me a big list of instructions of positions I need to do pretty much all the time but I've not done much apart from bounce on my exercise ball for half hour last night and tonight because, quite frankly, I'm knackered as it is and the thought of watching tv on all fours, leaning on my ball (which I'm sure is too bloomin squishy compared to last time but DH says he can't inflate it any more grr) is not a great one.
But from next week I shall make more of an effort and I just pray it'll be enough to shift her into the right position before she engages
Right, bed. Night all!
Wing DS was back to back (didn't realise til he came out) and it wasn't half as bad as I'd thought it would be - very speedy labour although he got a bit stuck on the way out so pushing for quite a long time (no forceps or ventouse or anything though). Oh, re football names, DH has ruled out Scarlett if we have a girl based solely on my team playing in red and his in blue
Kitten my MIL didn't like DS's name and spent the whole of my third trimester calling the bump by another name
which sounded like a dog's name to me despite us saying we were 99% set on his name so wanted to start using it to see how it felt!! In the end DH had to have words as I was ready to thump her discuss it in no uncertain terms
My morning sickness decided to have a contrary day today - have been feeling lousy all day most days then ok in the evenings then today I felt loads better then have been trying not to throw up since 8pm!
Hello all! Not been on for ages due to evil evil work week but popping in to say huge congrats to Dysgu and thanks for sharing the lovely birth story!
And good news from waves too that you're doing ok and having a boy!
I've just started to show a bit which is very exciting! Slightly stressfully found out that DP's sister tested positive for the cystic fibrosis gene so we've both had the test too, and now an anxious 2-week wait for the results, but it's still very unlikely so fingers crossed all will be well.
Right, must catch up on some sleep but will have a proper read through soon.
Congrats on finishing work Wing. DD is also back to back but obviously I'm a bit further behind you. I've read some info from the Spinning Babies website which seems to be vaguely do-able. On a good note, lots of babies turn during labour.
Yes my hospital is the LGI which is currently on OBEM!
I went to the chiropractor yesterday to try and sort out my rib/diaphragm pain which has been waking me up at night. She did an al over check and the upshot is that I'm falling apart! Seeing her a few times over the next couple of weeks to try and get in the best possible shape for birth.
So tired today but still managed to get lots of errands done this afternoon and the kids were impeccably behaved which was incredibly helpful!
Right must get up off my bottom and go and cook dinner
which should really have been done and eaten by now
Morning ladies! Busy busy week ahead - its my DS's birthday tomorrow so had stuff planned every day between yesterday and Wednesday
divorced grandparents means twice as many parties
I was having horrible dreams last night, dreamed that I started bleeding and thought I was having a miscarriage - I was running around the hospital trying to find where I needed to be but couldn't and I was alone because DH had to wait at home with DS - stupid subconscious clearly knows all my fears!! Woke up with a tummy ache and panicked, but have got an upset tummy (sorry TMI) so presume the pain of that was why I dreamt it!! Anyone else had anything like this?
Rock, I had a dream like that in early pregnancy (though we were trying to escape some bad people in the Middle East in mine!). It was awful :-/ But ultimately it was only a dream.
We've got to the point where baby's kicks are strong enough to be seen and felt now. Most amusing! :-) Just waiting for recognisable body parts to start shoving me!
I hope you feel better soon, Rock.
Wing - hooray you're on mat leave!
Hooya - have everything crossed for you for test results. It's so exciting when you start to show isn't it? It took me a while and it's only in the last 3 wks have I "popped" out. I was distressed and thought it may not ever happen, silly isn't it .
Guinea - good to hear you got an all over check up of your body. That is a really good idea. How regularly do you have to go and do u have to do much in terms of exercises or such at home?
Happy birthday to your DS Rock!!
We made some progress with baby furniture on the weekend! We got the pram on sale, it was the floor stock which was discounted & previous model but we didn't mind it had a few scratches & little dusty but otherwise new. I have it a good wipe down yesterday and love it! We have also ordered cot, drawers, shelves, bassinet, bath and stand... All the big stuff out of the way which I am so pleased about. I still need to get bedding and toiletries, nappies etc. I just put in an online order at M&S for sleep suits and other basics because there is currently free delivery to Oz. The babywear is also so much more well priced for the quality.
Hope you all have a good week ahead.
Well after a knackering weekend I've been out for coffee this morning, popped in to see my parents for a few mins and then shopped (very slooooowly) in Sainsburys. I'm currently sitting in my car outside my house typing this as I'm actually too tired to get out of the car and into the house
Pineapple, do you mean you've bought a baby bath that comes with a stand? I've never known anyone needing one of those (I'm prepared to be corrected!) - people I know, including myself, have variously used the bathroom or kitchen sink or a normal baby bath without a stand. Unless you definitely know you'll need a stand, I would consider not getting one as it does sound like just something else to take up space.
But certainly feel free to ignore anything I say!
Oh I really should get out of the car and put my few bags of shopping away. I'm planning on sitting on the sofa with chocolate and the tv on this afternoon and writing a huge to do list. Oh no, hang on I'm meant to be leaning across the damn exercise ball to try to shift MiniWing's position. Trouble is, doing that for a few hours on Saturday has already killed my back
Congrats Dysgu !
Glad you're on mat leave now, Wing but sorry to hear that you're so tired.
My back's starting to ache very easily now, and I'm only week 30 tomorrow. How will the ball help the baby to shift position Wing ?
Also, I have a ball now, are there any simple exercises that anyone recommends (to get me ready for labour preferably) ?
Child, I have no advice about exercises or balls as I have managed to have three children without ever going near one! Oh actually I did sit on one briefly at the hospital when in labour with ds1 and jumped right off again. I found no relief in putting pressure on my nether regions when about to give birth! Hope your back feels better soon though and someone has something helpful to say.
Wing, out for coffee how nice, that's what I spend most my time doing at the moment. I must start going for walks and things once the weather improves. I bet the tiredness is catching up with you as you've been so busy! Hope you had a relaxing afternoon.
Pineapple, sounds like your shopping is well under way now. M&S sleep suits are lovely quality we have some for Fern. Your pram sounds like a great bargain too!
MrsBri, I almost miss baby kicks and my bump. It's weird I still look at Fern and think its impossible she was ever inside me now she is such a part of our family seems like she's always been here.
Rock, happy birthday to your DS hope he had a great day. Your dream sounds horrid I always dream about whatever I'm worrying about too.
Guinea, ds2 was back to back but we didn't know until he made his appearance the facing the wrong way up! It was more painful but I'd assumed that was due to it being quicker than ds1. Hope you are feeling less tired?
Hooya, fingers crossed for your results. Nice that you are showing it makes it seem more real at last.
Hi to everyone else!
Wing - we got the bath with stand because...our house has not a single bath in it! I figure we can use the laundry sink at first quite easily for a while but hate the thought of having to bend down in shower when baby is bigger! Has anyone else had the no bath issue in their home before?
Aha, that makes sense. Is it pretty large then to take an older baby?
I'm off to the Trafford Centre to get the last bits and pieces (exciting things like hopefully MiniWing's first teddy and unexciting things like maternity pads) with my DPs. I've already said though that I want to just be dumped in a Starbucks somewhere if they are going to go off and look at furniture and stuff so I've got my Ina May Gaskin's guide to childbirth to start reading.
For those of you with older DC, have you got / are you going to get a present for the DC from the baby and vice versa? I was thinking of getting DS some Lego and saying it's from MiniWing but not sure about the other way round. DH hasn't heard of doing this at all (either way round) so I wondered whether it is a good idea?
Hope you've all got nice days planned x
Oh and HAPPY BIRTHDAY Pineapple!
Happy birthday Pineapple! It's our wedding anniversary today too!
Wing, enjoy your shopping. Have a look at the moulin roty baby teddies, so sweet! And of course Jelkycat ones. We did the present thing from
The baby when ds2 was born as ds1 was a toddler and more likely to be upset/ emotional. We didn't this time as the boys were so much older and dd was born two weeks after Xmas. That said lots of people who bought gifts bought for them too so they were very lucky!
Ooh happy birthday pineapple and happy anniversary tiredteddy!
And happy shopping wing
And hello everyone else!
Happy birthday Pineapple :-)
Had a very productive meeting with HR about the issues at work. I'm not finishing early now, as I thought I might. But the 3 witches will be looked at more closely.
Ooh yes, happy anniversary, tired :-)
Happy birthday Pineapple and happy anniversary Teddy!
Re presents, my DS loves toy prams but we intentionally haven't got him one before so the baby can buy him one! I also use a sling a lot so am going to buy a doll sling so DS can sling his teddy when I'm slinging the baby, hopefully stop him getting so jealous. Not planning on getting anything for the baby from DS though.
Happy Anniversary tired
I had a really productive day at the Trafford Centre! Got tons in Boots (boob pads, tee tree oil etc plus some stuff for the baby like Snufflebabe stuff and saline spray in case she gets bunged up. All things I'd forgotten about.), two lovely funky nursing bras from M&S
even though I know MNers think their fitting service is rubbish, steriliser and bottles half price in Mamas & Papas so that they were the same price as on Amazon (even if BFing goes well this time, I know I'll probably want to introduce a bottle after a couple of months).
We looked at teddies but there wasn't the best choice in John Lewis or Selfridges - only Jellycat which are lovely but not quite what I wanted and no Moulin Roty - so I'm going to get another Steiff bear for MiniWing as that what DS has online.
Which do you prefer?
The same as DS's but a different colour?
DH thinks this has a 'more feminine' face
I have a favourite but I'd be interested in your views!
I didn't overdo it and we took our time going around. We only had a few places to go to which helped.
Tomorrow, I am going to organise everything! Nesting time
MrsBri, glad to hear you sound happier about work. Don't let the
bastards witches grind you down
Ooh, choices, Wing! I like feminine or two tone myself :-)
Well done on the successful shopping too.
How many maternity pads do I need? I have some already, but think I'll definitely need more. Such glamour, isn't it?!
MrsBri, glad you had success at work regarding the witches. Hope they are better colleagues to you in the future. About mat pads, I got through several packets at least 6 packa of the nice thick ones before I used the slimmer ones.
Wing, you day sounds great. The teddies are lovely too. I was looking at those in Bentalls at the weekend. They do a girly princess one too and a cool pirate one I'm a little boat / nag that I really liked! From your lovely selection I like the second one with the green t shirt it dies just have a very sweet face. But as I'm indecisive I'd be tempted to get the one that matches your DS's one as I like things to match helpful arent I?
In the teddy competition my vote goes with Mr Wing - the teddy in the stripy tshirt is adorable!
Happy Birthday Pineapple!
Happy Anniversary Tired all round!
Wing, I don't like the two-tone bear, he doesn't look very bear-like. Can't explain it better than that but I wouldn't buy him. Love the other two, although the one in the stripey top just edges it!
Do you think the dri-nites 8-15yr old nappies will be just as effective as sanitary pads post-birth? I can just fit into them (looking at the sizes) and they do a free sample offer on their website, so tempted to order some to try them out!
MrsBri, I didn't bleed much at all after DS, only a little bit after wiping for 3/4 days...the big cheap Value sanitary towels from the Supermarkets were what I used.
Hooya, congrats on showing...and fingers tightly crossed for your results.
Re maternity pads - I bought 2 packs and have not finished the second one before moving onto thinner sanitary pads. However, this is DC3 and the DDs were very different and I think I probably used about 4 packs on each of them.
Gary not sure I would want the bother of dry-nites myself - pads are easier to put in/out of pants, I imagine?! However, I would also come nowhere near being able to get into them...
Wing another vote here for the 'feminine faced' bear with the striped t-shirt.
Re gifts from DS to DDs - yes, 'he' bought them each a toy dog; he had obviously heard the non-stop games of vets, Crufts, agility shows that go on in this house so thought they would love more dogs - which they do!
DDs have not bought DS a gift - but I have said that they can each choose him something (clothes or toy or whatever) once he comes home from the hospital.
Oh I'm so behind! Can anyone remind me of how I join the fb group please?
MrsBri glad you are getting some help from HR - I too have found that getting anyone from HR with actual answers at work is not easy! Over a week after I sent my email to about 10 different HR people, they still haven't even arranged the conf call to talk about how it impacts my secondment...
Happy birthday Pineapple and hope your DH gets good work news soon. Of course you'll have low moments but things will improve!
tired happy anniversary - Fern 8 weeks already, wow!
Oh Wing I'm at Boots shopping - can't wait til our UK trip in a few weeks, going to buy another massive suitcase while there to fit all the shopping in!
GBT wow at being able to fit dri-nites!
I am struggling with maternity wear. Ordered a pile of stuff from asos which came today, some of it's ok but I am so used to fitted businesswear it feels a bit odd, and I do want to buy a couple of posher things for big meetings - does anyone know if I could get away with a DvF wrap dress a couple of sizes up on my usual? I thought she did maternity ones but can't find yet...
Today is a holiday, spring is here in Tokyo (22 degrees) and the cherry blossom is starting! Sorry showing off to make up for lack of Boots here!
<looks out of train window at freezing cold, grey, drizzly gatwick airport>
<wishes it was Tokyo>
hooya if you pm me your rl name then I'll find you and add you to the group when I get to work in a bit
Oh and re the DvF wrap dresses my guess would be that it'd be fine for a while but probably not once you're properly big, depending on your build. I've bought two or three work tops a size up from normal but am finding that whilst they fit my tummy they're a bit loose around the shoulder/boob area and I end up inadvertently flashing a bit of side boob (not a good look - Cameron Diaz I am not)
Thanks Kitten - pm sent!
Have just ordered another 3 dresses from a store called Seraphine... I think you're right about going a size up, I don't want to go flashing anyone (you don't even show shoulders in Japan so sideboob would be )
I found my first 2 pg-related stretch marks this morning they are very pale as are my other weight gain / loss ones, but still, not too excited about that...
Seraphime have some lovely stuff - I was eying up a nice pair of straight leg trousers on there the other day as well as a couple of black officey dresses that I might invest in after payday
Boo to the stretch marks...I seem to be ok so far, but then I'm a bit of a chubbier to start with so have some growing space
Train just getting to London now, expect a random friend request in half hour or so!
Seraphine have some lovely stuff - I was eying up a nice pair of straight leg trousers on there the other day as well as a couple of black officey dresses that I might invest in after payday
Boo to the stretch marks...I seem to be ok so far, but then I'm a bit of a chubbier to start with so have some growing space
Train just getting to London now, expect a random friend request in half hour or so!
Hooya despite gaining loads last pregnancy I mostly wore non-maternity clothes and just let them stretch around my bump as there was hardly any maternity wear that I liked - personally I bought 1 size up depending on stretch, and they were fine (I had a couple of dresses from pre pregnancy that I could still wear by the end)! Just remember that you won't be able to keep wearing them once you've lost the baby weight as they will be all stretched and baggy xxx
Hi all. Sorry I missed birthdays and anniversaries yesterday - had another busy day.
Went to another chiropractic appointment yesterday but also went to a talk about chiropractic for pregnancy, babies and children (my chiropractor specialises in this area) and WOW - I had no idea about the kinds of things chiropractic could help with
as I wasn't totally sure what chiropractic even did
She recommends all women get a check before birth as so many people have 'issues' that don't cause pain but that can affect labour/birth - I had no idea that my pelvis was slightly twisted as I haven't had any pain but she said if it hadn't been adjusted it would have reduced the space available for miniGuinea when she comes. She is also treating my rib pain/tight diaphragm as well as a tight neck, some compression in my mid spine, and my heartburn! Best thing is I don't have any exercises to do at home .
I am also going to take miniGuinea as soon as she's born - research has shown that approximately 90% babies (regardless of how/where they are born) experience 'trauma'/strain from the birth. This can cause nerve irritations that can cause problems with breastfeeding, colic, reflux etc. I'm also taking DS as he has a number of issues that can be helped with chiropractic and she offers free assessments.
Anyway, as you can probably tell I found it very interesting!
We have a busy day today - setting off for ballet in about half an hour, then meeting a friend for lunch, got to take the sofabed cover to the launderette (we are selling it), and then I'm helping at DSs school disco - so I'll be surrounded by loads of screaming children for a good 3.5 hours . Wish me luck! Hope you all have a lovely day.
hooya! I think ive found you on fb but you seem to have ultra high security to the point where I can't even send you a friend request!
I pm'd you earlier with my name so I think you'll need to friend me and we'll do it that way....
That's really interesting Guinea - I have heard of cranial something for young babies which I'm guessing is done by a chiropractor but never did it for DS.
Hooya, Isabella Oliver does the most amazing
and can be pricey clothes, including wrap dresses. I've also got some very smart cotton wrap work shirts and other bits but because I wasn't in an office this time round I didn't use any of them. Check them out and then look on eBay (the clothes do hold their value).
The thing about a maternity wrap dress is by the time you really are getting larger, the hem will stay pretty straight whereas a normal wrap dress hem will rise up as it goes over your increasing belly.
When are you visiting the UK and whereabouts are you coming to?
sorry i havent been here in a few days DS1 has been ill with his first case of tonsillitis been a draining time!
of to get henners registered 5 weeks today!
Hooya, have a look at the Isabella oliver wrap dresses I had one and it's immaculate after three pregnancies and looks great.
Something hi! Hope ds1 is better and enjoy registering ds2. When we registered Fern the lady said she was the first fern shed ever registered. Special
Wing, which teddy won the competition????
Right, I'm on fb now, fun!
I had looked as Isabella Oliver too, just ordered a (hopefully) gorgeous dress and a skirt thanks for the recommends!
Naughty day's shopping for me! But in my defence, I was getting so pissed off seeing my lovely suits (mostly tailored dresses and jackets) hanging sadly in the wardrobe, wondering if I'll ever wear them again!
something hope DS1 is ok!
Wing we're visiting at the end of April, starting in Scotland for a week including a trip up to the Hebrides I think for some scenery, then London for a week. So much catching up and shopping to do!
Right, must go to bed
before I buy anything else
Poor DS, something
tired I went for the lovely Knuffi with the green Tshirt. DS wanted us to buy the two tone Ricky bear but to appease him we asked him to name the bear and it's going to be Snuggly Bear (or Snuggy, I can't remember), which will go quite well with his Soggy Bear.
(And in case I haven't explained to you lot why it's called Soggy, it's because DS used to suck its ear when he was a baby!)
I've done some sorting today but not as much as I wanted, but I then moved onto going through the last few boxes of my childhood toys and primary school work that my parents gave to me when they solds their house. Memories!! DH is a bit that I'm keeping all the immaculately boxed Sindys I had, but I can't possibly get rid of them until MiniWing has had a chance to play with them
Right. Feet up and then I may head to the cafe before
for cake before I pick DS up if I can be bothered.
That reads like I may not be bothered to pick DS up from preschool! Of course I meant if I can be bothered to go to the cafe!
H ha...sorry, son, I need cake, so you'll have to stay there! :-)
Yay for the green t shirt teddy now known as snuggly bear, very cute.
Ooh catching up and I liked the green t-shirt one!!! Very cute
Another thumbs up for Isabella Oliver. I got quite a few bits on ebay and they are my smartest workwear. The other stuff that I like has been my jojo maman trousers and swimsuit. Have got a few mamas and papas bits but for the price I think the quality is poor. The H&M stuff I rate as similar quality than M&P but wins because the price is so low so I don't expect too much from it.
Well I'm on countdown - only 6 days left at work! Starting to feel tired so I'm glad there's not long left.
I think I have started having Braxton-Hicks contractions - my belly goes all tight and low level of pain (like really bad wind), which then causes the baby to kick and create! Its happened twice, but I'd read about it so I wasn't too freaked out and just think of it as a bit of practice for my body!
Now off to watch the video on FB!
Hi Stuck, glad you haven't got long left at work either!
I've been having BH for a few weeks but they aren't painful, apart from when I'm sitting down scrunched over so they may me stretch out to give MiniWing room (like yours is complaining about too)!
Which video are you going to watch?
Oh and I stand corrected on the new bear's name: it's Snuggle Bear apparently
I get BH contractions very frequently - so often that I thought I was in early labour the other day . I don't seem to be able to walk 10 paces without getting one. Plus whoever described them as 'painless tightenings'
is a man LIED!
Glad you're finishing work soon Stuck, bet you're counting down the days.
Part of me feels like I'm on maternity leave as teaching has finished, but I've still got this research report to write up before I can put my PhD stuff 'down'. Really want I want to do is nest, eat cake and watch TV all day. Ho hum, not too long now I suppose...
Lovely to know Fern was the first she'd ever registered before Tired, I bet not many people can say that. The name we have chosen is not common, in our area, but it's not 'unusual' at all. 'Classic' hopefully.
DS is having a meltdown upstairs whilst putting his PJs on so I must go and intervene. Hope you all have a lovely relaxing evening.
Was trying to look at hooya's scan video but am in a hotel and it doesn't seem to be working on their WiFi so I'll have to wait till I get home...
Ooh thank u ladies for the birthday wishes!
I had a lovely day, was at work but spend evening with DH, we got pizza and he had bought me cupcakes too. If only every day was like that!!
I have bought a few maternity basics for work, few stretchy work pencil skirts, a pair of black trousers. Funnily enough no tops as I've managed with stretch longer vests and cardi's over the top.
I also get braxton-hicks, nearly once a day if not every second day. Not painful but can def feel them when happening. Think I first got then 29 wks onwards?
Yay Something, great to hear Henry's registered .
Hooya - ahh thanks. I know things will improve, it's just the waiting part and all this uncertainty with DH's work. I've always been impatient and hate not knowing what the future holds!! Uncertainty scares the hell out of me. It's silly I know!
Hope u all have a great day x
^ oops meant I started getting BH from 19wks onwards
I did wonder when you'd gained 2 weeks on me!! :-)
He he bloody iPhones!!
Had a hospital appointment today and did the GCT test for gest diabetes. The Dr did a quick scan too which I wasn't expecting to check on the uterine doppler flow - apparently all looks good and growth on track, we're really pleased. Was really nice to have another glimpse at baby Pineapple! Looking so much bigger
well i.booked the appointment online got the register office and there was no record on the system!
luckily i screen shotted the confirmation so i wouldnt forget the time and showed them that so they fitted us in.
off to get the dressing changed and wound packed later nurse thinks were on the home straight though. then were going to get henry weighed and speak to hv about reflix and development
Ive had some bad news about my mum. Been really upset and tearful. She's been taken back into hospital as she's developed a really nasty infection in her wound for her Breast surgery. They are going to have to remove her implant. I can't imagine how she feels. She will be left with her empty breast for a minimum of three months while they ensure the infection has gone before the try again with a new implant. I'm so scared about her having another operation. And what if its worse on the inside than what they can see? There's nothing I can do except talk and text her and dad. I can't talk to anyone about it as no one knows, they are very private people. I have to keep a brave face on for the boys and I just feel really snappy and anxious
Oh, Tired I hope she is ok. Sending lots of positive energy your way.
Oh no tired
Hopefully once this is all sorted she will be able to have another implant and it will all be back to the way it was before. At least they have identified the infection now so they can treat it quickly?
What is it with wound infections at the moment - your mum and something too
and (and ?!) for your mum.
Oh no tired big hugs for you, how has your mum taken the news? As wing says hopefully they can whip out the implant, treat the infection and plonk in a new implant before you know it. for you and for your mum.
something how annoying about the registry office but glad you were fitted in. All official now!
Thanks Wing, and Kitten. She sounds tearful. She's saying all the right things and being brave but deep down I think she's very scared. Unfortunately she will have to wait a minimum of three months before they try a new implant so will have a long time with only one normal breast.
Your poor mum, tired.
I hope the operation is straightforward for her and everything resolves itself sooner rather than later. xx
Thinking of your Mum, Tired. Hope she'll be ok.
Wing, I think that Baby will get DS a present, if I can be organised enough. I have recently bought the Ina May childbirth book too. It is quite interesting. I also got a hypnotherapy for birth CD, which I haven't tried yet.
I haven't had any BH and I'm 30 weeks. Hmm.
Tired, sorry to hear about your Mum. Hope the operation is as stressfree as possible and she's 'ok' about having to wait so long for a replacement implant. for her.
Hurrah for Henry being a 'real' person now something...and a chunky one at that, what fabby weight gain!
Hurrah for Snuggle Bear finding a home too.
Am I just a crazy person, or does anyone else feel like a bastard when putting cuddlies/toys with faces away in boxes?
DS was weighed today, 15months & 24lbs....oh, and he's broken the tv. Grrrh.
Child, I've only got half way through the birth stories. They are... interesting!
I may skip them and head to Part II then go back to them
if I have time
Gary, Snuggle Bear arrived today and is as lovely as in the picture. She(?) will be sleeping with me from now until MiniWing is born and then go into her Moses basket (probably right down the foot end- I think that's what we did with DS's bear).
I'm in a foul mood with DH tonight. Can't be bothered to go into why though!
Looking forward to the Home Delivery programme on ITV tonight at 9pm though! You must all watch it (I'll put a reminder on FB too)!
Wing I love that bear. Ds1 has a very old tatty polar bear from mamas and papas called Sunuggles. He's very well loved. Ds2 has a Zutano Zoo Crew baby blanket known as At-it also dirty and frayed and very well loved. The boys chose this for Fern,
They've named it Annie, I'm yet to decide whether she actually likes it or not it is sweet though.
Thinking of you and your Mum tired. Must be a really difficult time and she is so lucky to have you there for her. I hope the op goes well and things progress positively from there. Big hugs to you ...
tired im sorry to hear that. thinking of your family
well ive just done a phone interview with a jounalist from the mail and my sepsis story will be featured in an article
Tired sorry to hear about your mum and how worrying although hopefully the infection has been caught early and can all be sorted. I guess the 3 months will feel very long for her; are there special bras she can buy to feel better about the way she looks to others although I imagine she just wants the next few months over. Sending best wishes.
Something congratulations on registering Henry. You have just prompted me to look up how we go about registering Evan - will have to find a time when DP is home so he can be on the certificate too! And your story will be interesting to read. Did you do a story after DS1? Sorry, I am not sure what sepsis is, is it something that could affect anyone?
Wing that bear is lovely.
My news is that today, at the age of just one week, Evan came out of his incubator and was dressed which feels like such a huge step forwards. I have not managed a single day without tears yet but there are a lot more good times than bad now. I was with him for the morning and he was still under his lights and in his incubator. DP went up for the afternoon and got to dress Evan.
We took the DDs up this evening but hadn't told them that Evan was in a cot and dressed so they were both really happy to see him. DD1 especially felt he looked more like a baby and now wants to visit him every day - she didn't really like seeing him in his incubator as he was so tiny and bony. She was afraid to touch him but loved holding his hand today.
And DD2 found it absolutley hilarious when I was changing Evan's nappy - had got everything done, was about to swap the nappies and he did a HUGE fountain of pooh which went everywhere! I had to pull the emergency cord to get a nurse to come and help - we had to wipe it off the side of his cot, down the side of his mattress and he had even got it OUTSIDE his cot to the monitor which was on the shelf at the bottom of his cot
That boy has got talent! He tried to escape from his incubator two nights ago - they gave me the photograph of him turned sideways with his head pressed up against one of the access windows!
Great news about Evan Dysgu And congrats to him on the massive poo.
Glad Evan is going well Dysgu.
Sorry to hear about your mum Tired. This happened to a friend of mine. In the end she had an operation to reconstruct her breasts using muscles in her back and fat/tissue from elsewhere - is there an.option for your mum to have a reconstructive surgery without implants? It is awful having to wait but fingers crossed it will be sorted once and for all.
It is heavy snow here so had to walk the DCs to school - they loved it but I could definitely have done without it. Got a pregnancy massage booked this morning and thought she might cancel (she comes here) but she's just texted to ask if my road is clear so fingers crossed she comes.
Who.watched Home Delivery last night?
Wing I ended up skipping to part 2 of the Ina May book as I think it has the most practical advice. Though I challenge anyone to doubt their body's ability to birth after finishing that book! I'm also reading Birth Skills by Juju Sundin. she's a physio that does more physical methods of pain management. I figured it wouldnt hurt to have the natal hypnotherapy CDs and something a bit more active should I need it.
I watched Home Delivery (as you will know from FB)! I thought all the couples were lovely and normal which was such a positive thing
Dysgu, well done to Evan for the poo of the year! I'm only just remembering how obsessive we get as new mums with poo - regularity, quantity, consistency etc etc. Bless their little bums
I'm actually sitting at my work desk as I've just spent half hour ripping out staples and getting all my old papers (some a year back) into the recycling bag. I can see the wood on my desktop now Will log of here though and drag myself back out of here.
I feel so much more organised now - clothes sorted; changing mat etc sorted; carry cot and car seat adapters on the buggy chassis and working; bits for home birth sorted; Snuggle Bear snuggled!
I think the only things I feel like I do need to do is to pack my hospital bag(!) and also get the home birth stuff all together in one area, including MiniWing's first clothes etc. Then whenever contractions start, I know DH can find the dust sheets, towels etc and the bits for the baby are ready to be picked up so all I'll have to worry about is the birth...
Right. I'm going to log off my work PC and head downstairs to watch the snow!
Guinea - I am also reading Birth Skills by Juju Sundin. Literally just started but finding it very interesting.
Glad to hear you are feeling organised Wing! Am feeling very excited for you .
Friday night over here and just relaxing after tiring day at work!
Thanks for everyone's support. I'm waiting to hear that mum is out of theatre and what the outcome is?
Dysgu, yes there are special bras and things she can wear. I think the hospital will provide a prosthesis too. I'm glad that Evan is doing well. fern also did an enormous poo, all over my bed, really serves me right for not using the changing mat!
Guinea, mum was offered that method of reconstruction as a better one for older ladies at the time of planning this op. however she wanted a quick recovery more than a natural look. She hasn't ended up with a quick recovery anyway but you can't make people's choices for them. I think she was led a bit by my op. as I'd had my mastectomy and recon done before her. Luckily for me it was very straight forward and I was healed and back to normal within 10 weeks. They will try another implant I think and if that doesn't work she will have to consider using her own body tissue. It's all so grim to think about really. I'm sleeping very badly.
Hi everyone, just delurking for some advice please.....
Have had combined scan and blood results back at 1:140 for downs....mw offered me amino tests which obv come with their own risks of 1:100 of mc. (Although I've read in most places this could be more like 1:200. )
What would you do? Am struggling with getting my head around what I'm going to do here :-/
Oh no frog...but sometimes these results are nowhere near accurate.
All I can say is how we decided to not have the tests was ask ourselves if we would act on the results or not. We wouldn't, so didn't get tested at all.
Ultimately it is a judgment call for you and your DH / DP. Sorry if that hasn't helped. xx
Oh, Frog I hope you're ok. Turning the figure on its head sounds better though - you've got a 139:140 chance of everything being ok! If you have the additional testing done would you have a termination? I think you need to know the answer to that before you can decide about invasive testing, it's something only you and DH can figure out the answer to. Also which would be worse, not testing and having a baby with Down's, or testing and miscarrying due to the amnio? You don't have to answer, there's no right or wrong as again it depends on your own views and your family.
Frog chops, do a search on hear about something called the Harmony test. It's no invasive some how, I read about it a while ago. I think the test just from a normal blood sample? I really don't think my info is very accurate but it is definately new and much safer than amino. Take care x
tired - you're right that you can't make people's choices for them but I do find myself worrying about my parents (and they aren't both that old really, late 60s) just as much as I worry about DS to be honest. I think it's a combination of being a parent myself and wanting them to make the right decisions as they get older, as well as recognising that they themselves don't have all the answers with complete certainty as we thought they did when we were children (infallibility). All you can do is support her in her choices and try to help her not look back and regret any choices she made beforehand I think.
frog - I agree with the others. I can't tell you what I'd do in your circumstances because it's is up to you and your thoughts and situation (and your DH/DP too of course). I know I wouldn't terminate if I knew my child had Downs but I am the sort of person who would really want to know in advance so I could prepare myself, get in touch with different support groups etc. But the amnio test risk is relatively high as well.
Holding your hand though x
Thanks everyone... I know it sounds like I'm asking you to tell me what the right thing to do is! I think I'm more frustrated that DP was 100% on wanting the nt scan as he thought we wouldn't cope with a downs baby. Now he's almost ignoring the high risk and saying 'oh 0.7% is very low' lets just carry on regardless. I'm also confused that my nt measurement was 1.5 at 13 wks, I don't have any other indicators and am 29 which to me means something was really wrong with bloods ?!
Frog....there is a thread for the harmony test. It is not cheap at all, but not invasive. Would that help??? The test is very thorough from what I read.
Tired...poor Mum. I hope she recovers soon!
Wing you are organized!!! Well done!!
Dysgu..so glad reading your news about Evan and laughing at the poo bit
Had a private scan today and now the dates seems to be inline (9 weeks)therefore I will try to relax a bit and to stop thinking how things could go wrong! Good hearbeat and now DH is reading more and more about harmony test.uch more expensive here in Manchester...
Kitten and hooya....hello!!!!
That's excellent news on the scan, notso :-)
Oh, and yes, congratulations to Evan on his awesome pooing ability!!
Good news on your scan notso, and thanks for the harmony advice....but even if we could afford it, I'm just past the timescale for having it :-/
I can imagine that this is a worry Frog. We didn't get any testing done so haven't been in your position and not sure what I'd do. My best friend has a little boy with Down's syndrome and a few of her friends (from her support group) have had the amnio with their subsequent pregnancies and have said it wasn't that bad. Are there any other soft markers? Nasal bone, femur length etc?
You sound very organised Wing - we've been on a major DIY mission...got new wardrobes for the kids, bought some cupboards for the small bedroom and a big storage unit for downstairs. Just have to sort them all out now .
Got an active birth class on Sunday and my parents are coming to put the kids to bed so DH can come. Then going to start collecting cheap sheets and towels from local charity shops.
Haven't asked about other soft markers yet, I'm currently thinking/wondering wether its worth asking for a second test?
Definatly frog I'd say demand some info b4 thinking about anything more risky, got my scan and test in a couple of weeks, will see what initial results we get but it's so hard knowing what to do! xx
Isn't there another invasive test you can have (CVS or something?!) but that may have better odds? Sorry, I should have googled it before posting
Towels - yes I need to get more out! Haven't done the hospital bag yet as we've had a nice relaxing afternoon round at friends
eating amazing rocky road with crunchies and salted peanuts in but we don't have much planned this weekend so I shall do it tomorrow probably.
Can I please just finish by sharing with you two words that have been stuck ING mind a lot these past few days? PANT SNOT! Ahem.
Hi Frog. I had CVS done after a very high risk NT result in December 1:21 chance of Down Syndrome & another trisomy was on the higher end but I can't recall exactly the details. It turns out my NT measurement was fine but part of my bloods (PAPP-A) was very very low which can indicate chromosomal abnormalities. My DH and I needed to know for sure, and went ahead with the CVS. It was a very distressing week of waiting but the results came back normal and baby is fine. I have since been monitored more closely for my low PAPP-A levels which can also indicate growth and placental issues. So far all has been reported as normal and well.
There are lots of options, CVS is not a must but will give you a definite diagnosis. This was personally important to us. I have heard of the Harmony test and would look into that if you're near London.
Let me know if you need to know more, I understand it can be really difficult.
frog I agree with all that's been said - get all the info you can on the nature of the risk, and then decide whether you would take any action on the basis of the results before you decide what to do. For us, we know that we are likely to take action so would go for the test; if our CF results come back both carriers then we will do. Scary times but you'll get through them and you know you'll make the right decision for you
tired sorry about your mum, it is so sad worrying about parents isn't it! Really hope she gets the best care and treatment and is less worried soon
notso brilliant reassuring news, congrats! how did it feel seeing the heartbeat? That was the moment my DP had a proper cry, the first time we saw it!
wing I am with you on the pant snot! Ok that sounded a bit strange, but you know what I mean...
Guinea how exciting getting the place ready for the birth! I am very jealous of the homebirthers, seems such a lovely way to bring a baby into the world
More maternity stuff arrived today from Seraphine - it's ok but I can't believe I'm going to wear so much stretch jersey for the next 5 months! I'm used to fitted stuff giving my bum a decent shape, now it's going to roam free in all these stretchy fabrics it's looking a bit rubbish!
And I miss lie-ins! Been waking at 4am to eat
Err, pant snot now = bloody show...!
And we have no water in the house due to a leak so I I do go into labour today (still think that's a long shot), it'll have to be a hospital birth...
Will keep you all posted. We're actually going to pop to town in a bit as there is no point staying at home while there's no water but perhaps I should tell DH about the pant situation first...
OOoh exciting Wing! Good luck for pant watch.
Frog, good luck with what you decide to do. As mentioned here the antnatal tests/choices pages are good for advice on harmony etc.
Tired, hope your mum is as well as can be & you all have a peaceful weekend.
I was going to make some such comment about you going into labour when the water is off on Facebook! Very exciting with the show though :-)
Best take your bag if you go out!
Gary...20 weeks?! Your pregnancy is so much faster than mine!
Right, bag sort of packed but I don't have any snacks, dextrose tablets, drinks etc in there which I remember stuffing my hosp bag with last time (and never used any of it as DS was so fast).
It is making me nervous though. I think if I had my day planned l be at home and there was damn water I wouldn't feel nervous but his has all completely thrown me
Okay, better finish packing the bag then get out. I think a morning in Starbucks while DH takes DS to the shops is a good idea. Hmm, although walking about would be good too wouldn't it?
You lot are so lovely with all you kind words! Mum had her op and it went well. She may come home today.
Wing, wow getting exciting now. Shame about no water. Enjoy you trip to town it might be your last as a family if three
Hooya you clothes sound nice from seraphine. I looked at there stuff but always thought it too pricey!
Frog, thinking of you.
Gary congratulations 20 weeks is such a big milestone!
You need to wander in shops that are known to give you lots of freebies if your waters break in there! :-)
Must be disconcerting having your plans buggered about, potentially. Let's hope you last til the water is back on.
Tired, I hope your mum gets home soon. Much better to recover there than stay in hospital.
Tired so glad her op went well, hope she gets discharged today!
Wing how exciting!! Walk around as much as you can, how many weeks are you now?
Gary halfway there!!!
Oooh, living on a prayer I was 10 weeks yesterday, morning sickness seems to have stopped over the last few days but upset tummy continues - lovely pregnancy symptom! DH remembers me having the same last time, I must have blocked the memory out
Just to make sure I have the right idea here... From what I've read the harmony test is around £750 right? But I was aware that it can be completed up to 14 weeks. I am passed this now, and I know we can't afford this. Makes me feel even worse that I can't afford to sort out such a big decision.
DP has said that he feels strongly that the risk of mc is higher than waiting it out and doing nothing more. Only slightly though....and also questioned how we would feel if things turned out fine via amnio and then I went on to miscarry. I'm so drained about this
Frog if it makes you feel any better about the harmony test, apparently the NHS won't offer it yet as its accuracy isn't confirmed so don't feel bad about not getting it done (we wouldn't be able to afford it either!). How do you feel about waiting it out, not how DP feels? If you decide not to get the further testing done, as tough as it will be you mustn't spend your entire pregnancy worrying about it, you have got a strong BabyFrog (Tadpole?) growing in there, whatever happens will be right for you!
Thanks rock....tbh my gut feeling was to wait it out too...I know odds are highly in my favour, plus with thinking about the difference between my risk and low risk being 0.03% (I can't remember who posted that but thankyou!) it seems silly to dwell on that 1.
DP reminded me that I'm often buying 1:4 chance scratch cards and I always lose! .... So I reminded him that I also play the lottery in the hope of being that 1....someone has to win right??! And now I feel bad that I compared my baby to a scratch card! :-/
You haven't compared your baby to a scratch card - you've just put te risks/chances involved into a more easily understandable and familiar situation.
I can imagine your mind is all over the place. Have you and DP decided what you'd do if you had a baby with Downs? (it was World Downs Syndrome Day this week btw!) If you would be fine, then don't have the test and then you won't be taking any chances of miscarriage.
Argh I just wrote out a long paragraph about risks and chances and my phone deleted it all grr. Basically there are people with v low odds (like me 1:100,000) who will have a child with Downs and people with high odds who don't. And people who have no testing like my friend who still have a child with Downs.
Take care hon.
In other news, we've made it into town
actually Preston is technically a city and I'm in SB while DS plays on his iPod and DH has gone shopping. Apparently the water is sort of back on in our area as they've rerouted it so I feel a bit better. I was having the mildest low down period pains last night and with all the pant snot I shouldn't be too surprised. I'm 38 dead on today but by my original dates I am 39+ 2 or 3 and DS came at 39+3 or 4, a day or two after my show...
Wing how exciting! Hope your water gets sorted very soon so you can relax(?) at home!
Frog these are very very difficult decisions and you mustn't feel bad about how you make any of them! I'd second looking on the antenatal tests and choices board, loads of info there to help. And I agree with Rock about the Harmony test.
I'm a risk manager at work so I think about odds and probabilities quite a bit. You shouldn't worry about comparing different risks / events - i.e. yes you play the lottery even though the odds of winning are 1:13,000,000 because the cost of playing is very small, so you may as well do it in the hope of being the lucky 1! So you can't compare that to the odds of something happening which is not a desired outcome, iyswim.
The thing to weigh up with any risk is firstly how would you feel if it materialised. Is it an outcome (having a Down's baby) which you could live with, or think you would not or could not manage? Is it an outcome which is undesirable but manageable? Would you feel able to terminate at this stage if you decided that was the right thing? Answers to these questions are deeply personal but should help guide you towards the right answer.
Sending thoughts and un-mumsnetty hugs your way x
How exciting Wing - glad you've got some water so HB plans aren't entirely scuppered. Am very very uncomfortable today so am a bit that you may have your baby soon, even though I don't really want want miniGuinea to arrive yet.
Good news about your mum Tired, hope she has a speedy recovery.
Congrats on getting to 20 weeks Gary, I remember feeling like I had achieved something when I got half way .
Can't remember who on here babywears... but just wondered if anyone has tried a carrier cover? If so any recommendations?
Sending you a small Frogs as I think you deserve it with all the worrying. Have you looked at the ARC website btw?
Guinea I never wore DS out in the rain apart from with a brolly so can't help you with covers I'm afraid.
No news here although bloody show is still forthcoming. On my 4th panty liner now (I would say TMI but nothing's TMI for us JSer grads!), with a few mini clots last time I went to the loo. I wonder if it'll start overnight or not for a few days? My MW trainee best friend is driving up from Worcs just to see me for the day on Tues so I'd *love* it if she were here for my labour as she's not seen a HB yet!
Oh and water is back on - phew
Guinea I've never used a cover - front carries I put my maternity coat on and fasten it around us both, or just a normal coat and make sure his hands and feet are inside. We usually both end up roasting hot anyway so no need for too many layers! Back carries I bought Spider-Man tights from H&M for under DS's jeans so no gaps at the top of socks, and wear him over my coat. Oh, and a big golf umbrella for the rain!
Hi all - nothing to report here! Had painful BHs all this morning and thought something was starting but back to nothing happening now.
Now just watching Kung Fu Panda with DS and chilling out a bit
I'll keep my fingers crossed for later on, Wing!
We are spending today watching / videoing my bump moving and bouncing all over the place! DH loves it, bless him. :-)
Hi all and happy weekend to you too.
Wing, hope the bh aren't painful? Enjoy the rest today!
Guinea, I'm joining the ranks of saying that I've used slings with dh's coats over the top and a Bromley in wet weather. I am loving my new ergo it is SO comfortable!
We had friends round for dinner on fri night for DH birthday which was really nice, fern just slept through the event in her rocking seat. Just bought a travel cot as we are have a night away next Friday. We are taking the boys to Bewilderwood in Norwich. It looks amazing.
Nothing happening here!
I found an old online journal I used to have around the time I was pg with DS and it looks like I thought my show happened 8-9 days before DS actually appeared which is really making me because I'm getting impatient now!
Today I think DH and I are going to pop out for a coffee and then I'm going to go to my village cafe as the lady who owns it and who I know pretty well is the semi-retired MW
who said I looked huge at 24 weeks and have me a complex just for a chat.
Hope you all have lovely days planned.
Here you are, I lost you all.
frog hope you're doing ok this morning - feeling any clearer about things this morning?
wing how exciting! Ooh if it's 8-9 days then you might actually have an April Fool's baby! My friend is one and she loves it
tired I just googled Bewilderwood, it really does look amazing - I want to go!!
gary congrats on 20 weeks! Halfway woop woop!
I think I may have felt a first flutter of movement on the train to work this morning. Could have just been wind though of course! Still, made me feel better after my dad kindly pointed out to me on Saturday that at the moment I don't look pregnant, just fat. Thanks dad!
It's nice to be able to rely on family members for encouraging comments isn't it Kitten! Great news on feeling the baby move .
Not too long now Wing. I feel like I have ages to go. Realistically I know that I need the time to get everything prepared - house, work finished, last few bits and bobs for me/baby, and stuff for HB. BUT I am really uncomfortable. I keep getting painful contractions with really bad back ache, but they're very irregular. They seem to be worse at night and when I'm sitting and doing
MN and FB work at the computer. It's making it really difficult to concentrate and I just want to be in the bath all the time! Still, this is my last pregnancy so I am determined to enjoy the final few weeks of growing a person...
I went to an active birth class last night at the hospital and it was fab. DH found it really helpful and has said it saved him loads of reading. It also prompted some helpful discussions that need TBC but at least we have more idea about what we agree on and what we don't.
I am currently sitting on my birth ball with the laptop propped up on a tray and numerous pillows to try and avoid working at the desk - if only I could find a way of typing in the bath .
Going out for coffee sounds good Wing. Can't wait until I officially finish work and then I can relax and take some time out without feeling guilty. Must get on then, hope you all have a lovely day.
Active birth classes- they sound interesting. I might have to research that for my area.
I have just started part two of Ina May's book about childbirth, and apparently anxiety can not only slow labour down, it can make your cervix close. Must try to remain as calm as possible- easier said than done of course.
Hi, have just posted this on another thread so sorry if you've read it!
I think being as I need some help in deciding on amnio or not I'm gona go for a private marker scan to look specifically for downs markers. Markers will sway my decision towards amnio whereas few or no markers will help me deal with the risk (the clinician said it will change my risk score if this is the case) ..,.so altho I can't afford harmony, this is my next best option. I'm also going to ask tht my 20 wk scan is at a diff local hosp, one that has state of the art stuff to detect things and has a specialist ante natal medicine centre.
Sounds like a good plan Frog, when can they check for the markers?
Am going to ask the best time tomorrow rock, it suggests 18 week I think.
Would you be able to go through with a termination that late if it turned out positive, or would you just want to be pre-warned? Hopefully there will be no markers anyway so you won't need to worry, but I'm very pro-choice but not sure I could do it once baby was kicking etc. It just seems very late, I think it may be worth seeing if it can be done sooner than that if possible. Hope that doesn't sound insensitive, I don't mean it to!!
No it's not, I appreciate anyone's views...I am going to ask tht its done at the soonest time possible that will give the best results. I've read 16-17 weeks is possible on their website. I'm 15 weeks on Friday so don't want to hang around too much! Will still discuss with my mw on wed though.
Oh! Having just got home.... I've had a letter that says my bloods have been rejected due to an error with either the form or the sample. The letter was sent a day before the phone call. I'm sooooo confused.
Oooh, fingers crossed for a mix-up Frog!
I really don't need this. I'm guessing its not the downs bloods though, they wouldn't have been able to give me a risk other wise :-(
The private test sounds like a good idea. Have you booked it yet or can you wait until after you've spoken to someone tomorrow about the bloomin results?
I'm calling in the morning about these damn bloods but I won't book test till I've spoken with mw on wed. Think its best I call rather than go to the clinic. I fear for their safety face to face!!
Gosh Frogs I can really understand your confusion. Definitely worth a phonecall to someone senior tomorrow I think. The scan seems like a good idea, a way to decide whether to risk the amnio or not.
The active birth classes were very comprehensive when it came to hormones and the effect anxiety has on them. She really focused on birth environment - although she was very pro-HB, the MW did suggest that if you are not going to birth in your nest (home) then take your nest to the hospital. She recommended taking photos, music, familiar and comforting smells etc. to the hospital to make it as much like home as possible. I thought that was s nice idea.
She also recommended a book called Ecstatic Birth. It's by Dr Sarah Buckley and is available as a free ebook from her website. I read it last night (its only 15 pages long) and well worth a look in my opinion. Can't link to it as I'm on my phone but I found it through Google fairly quickly.
I need to tidy up the dinner things but all I really want to do is get in the bath ... decisions decisions!
Good luck Frog, sorry to hear you have to go they all this additional stress.
How are you doing Wing? Thinking of you!!
Hope everyone is doing well this week. I'm really looking forward to the long weekend. Spend more time with DH and maybe go away on a day trip.
Guinea - I may look up that book you mentioned, thanks!
Oh frog have just caught up with the thread and hope you can get some answers today. You must be on a such a rollercoaster of emotions - hopefully you may get some good news today, but if not, keep reaching out for support in real life and here...
Well last workshop at work has been completed - just 3 days of finishing off work left... (As you can see that involves a mumsnet catch up first )Feeling very lucky that I am finishing so early. Going to sleep for a week and then spend the next few weeks tackling the house and turn it into a freshly painted nest for us!!!
Cutting a long story short....it's not downs bloods, its the other 4 bottles that need redoing. The form wasn't filled in right. I have found out that my hcg level was 1.5 and Papp-a was 0.3. It's the Papp-a that's elevated the risk. :-(
Frog I won't pretend that I understand that (and I appreciate that was the short version) - does this mean you're back to where you were the other day?
In babywatch news, still nothing happening! In fact, as I've managed to catch up on sleep and not do much in the day since running around doing all my sorting out and organising last week, I actually feel pretty good and not at all like a baby might be arriving soon!
My BF is currently driving up from Worcs to visit me today - I cannot wait to see her! I hope she's brought her MW ear trumpet thingy
I've booked us into a nice restaurant for lunch and we might pop over to see my DPs for a cuppa this afternoon but otherwise it's just going to be nice to catch up now we live so far from each other (both from south London and have ended up out in the countryside).
Hope you all have nice days planned , whether you're at work or not, and you aren't worrying too much frog.
Frog the HCG is well within normal range then which is fantastic, the Papp-A would be considered normal if it was 0.4 or higher so its not a million miles away from normal! This website explains it fairly simply I think.
Glad you're feeling ok Wing
I think I might have it wrong....I think the hcg was 2.something, and the Papp-a was 0.3. Making it not so good. It was the nuchal measurement that was 1.5. When I mentioned provate testing, the mw said that nhs could do anything a private clinic could....but I'm not sure. She said the marker scan could be done by nhs at 20 weeks. I'm not sure if it would be as detailed??
Frog, to give you some perspective my Papp-A levels were 0.09 mom. Making it very, very low... It was also the only factor making my risk 1:21 then. No one can explain why it was so low bit they are monitors me closely now and all is well so far.c not sure if this helps at all bit wanted to to say i know what you're going thru right now. It's so hard. For us the CVS was decided very promptly based on my higher risk. I went to a well known OB here to get my CVS done and was assured they were reputable and do them often (less risk of issues).
Have a nice day Wing, that is so lovely your bf is coming to visit!
Hi all - had a lovely day with my BF but am knackered now so I'm in bed and this will be short!
She palpated me this morning and reckons MiniWing's back in on my front left now so I hope she stays that way! She also thought 2/5 engaged I think but I can't remember. I'll see what the MW says in the morning
Right, I need my
beauty sleep now. Night all (except for Hooya and Pineapple overseas!)
Is it just me that thinks "palpation" should mean mashing up soft fruit or something, not prodding a pregnant belly?!
Well I can see the similarity kitten
Had my MW appt today (38+5!) with CrazyMW and yes, MiniWing appears to be more round to the front which is good, and head is fixed but not fully engaged but that's fine second time round and heartbeat was absolutely fine.
My lead MW is back from leave next Wed so I now want to hang on until then! Next MW appt will be with her the week after (two weeks today) as apparently they don't normally do them until 41 weeks now but the MW said she doesn't think leave a pg woman 3 weeks without a check is wise and I agree with that!
I went through my HB box with BF yesterday which was useful to look at all the stuff in there. MW today was in less of a rush (so less crazy than usual to be honest) and we had time for a chat about the third stage, cord clamping etc. i might write that discussion up later as BF and I had a good chat about all that yesterday and there are some things I know I would prefer - looks like I might actually have something to write on my birth plan after all!
This MW is v pro-HB so that made me feel happier if I do get her but I'm expecting not to know the MW (as if I went into hospital) and then if I do know them that'll be a complete bonus.
frog, how are you today? Have you made any more decisions?
There are some really interesting blogs I've been reading about the 3rd stage of labour and cord clamping. Have you made any decisions Wing? I'm opting for a physiological 3rd stage so clamping the cord will be done when that's done.
Glad they are seeing you sooner rather than later - hopefully you'll have your baby by then though! Good news on the position and engagement - I think miniGuinea has twisted around a bit as I'm not feeling kicks at the front/middle as much.
Cutting an extremely long story short am possibly in the position to consider harmony testing. I won't bore everyone with how/why and the details you've already read, but now I'm looking for opinions on this and if anyone has/knows of anyone who has had it. :-/
frog, not had it but wishing you all the luck in the world. xx
Wing, hurrah for birth planning! With DS mine said 'whatever I want at the time'
20wk scan went well & it's a boy!
Congratulations GBT. Fab news on positive scan and yay for a boy!
Sorry Frog I can be of no help as I hadn't even heard of the harmony test before someone on this thread mentioned it. Sending you , and though <-- comfort food.
Good luck on your decision making frog and congrats on the blue scan GBT. I have a blue bump too
I'm STILL being sick all the time, and now am 22 + 2 weeks, but at least the daily IV fluids and meds are helping by keeping the dehydration at bay, and allowing me to retain some calories, so I have stopped losing weight.
No idea about the Harmony testing Frog, could you star a thread about it? Someone must have had it on here somewhere?
Waves, nice to see you here. Glad the treatment is at least helping you a bit. I think of you often
Gary, a blue bump hooray how lovely!
waves, so glad to see you back. Sorry I've been a bit slack at commenting in the other place but I've been thinking of you lots.
Gary, congrats on the blue bump! And frog I'm afraid I'd never heard or the harmony test either before it was mentioned on here. Have you thought of starting a separate thread about it?
Guinea, BF and I had a long talk about it yesterday because she went on an interesting MW conference lecture last month in Birmingham and she had been telling me about that (basically about the different types of injections they use for the managed stage should be given at different times and no one seems to know about it).
But then we went on to discuss delayed cord clamping as I saw a thread on here about home births and delayed cord clamping so I wanted to ask her thoughts on having a managed third stage (which I'd prefer, only because I want it over and done with ASAP!) but combined with delayed cord clamping if possible. She said that it is perfectly possible so that's what I'm going to ask for.
But what was interesting was that in the middle of our convo she mentioned that some of the 'more experienced' MWs
or complacent older MWs in her hospital give the injection to help the placenta come out once the head's been born i.e. when the baby hasn't even been born yet. She was saying that she'd never do that for a few reasons including undiagnosed twins(!) but also, more seriously, something like shoulder dystocia (where the shoulder gets stuck). If you being the artificial process of expelling the placenta and the baby's not even been fully born, then you can certainly cause problems for the baby if there are any problems between the head coming out and the full birth.
I just took in what she was saying and thought 'yep, makes sense'. So this morning I was discussing having delayed cord clamping for MiniWing but still having a managed third stage and the MW was agreeing but then just dropped into the conversation that "we usually give the injection after the baby's head has been born but we'd wait until the cord has stopped pulsating before we clamp it". Apart from the point that I can't see how a delayed cord clamp really works if they've already give an injection to speed the placenta expulsion, I just thought "nooooo, you are no way giving me the injection before my lovely baby has been born completely 100% safely!!!".
I did the right thing by nodding politely and thinking "sod that, I'm definitely putting it in my birth plan that I was a delayed cord clamp and the injection to follow"!
I spoke to BF tonight and as I was explaining this to me she knew exactly what I was going to say and completely agreed that my choice (if I want a managed third stage) was absolutely the right thing to do. She was also impressed that I had just silently nodded agreement like an uninformed person but knew exactly that what she was saying isn't a great idea.
Sorry, that was really long!
In other unwelcome news, a child at DS's preschool came down with chicken pox yesterday and DS hasn't had it so I'm currently really worried that hell come down with it in the next two weeks when the baby has been born as it's really dangerous for newborns
I've done a lot of googling and it does seem to make a big difference if I'm immune and I did have it really badly as a child so I'm currently trying to decide whether I
sit for ages get an emergency GP appt tomorrow morning for a blood test to see if I'm immune, which I probably am, or whether just to let it take its course and worry about it if DS comes down with it. Even then, the baby might not catch it. I don't know what to do - we had family plans for a day trip tomorrow
Ooh lots of blue bumps, lovely!
Nice to see you back waves glad the treatment is helping a little bit. The constant vomming must be getting beyond tedious now though you poor thing
Interesting stuff on the 3rd stage/cord clamping business, definitely something I need to read up on.
16wks today for me, midwife appt this morning
Wow, kitten, 16 weeks already?! You're zooming along nicely. :-) 28 weeks today here.
And yes, I need to read more about the cord clamping thing. My best friend (coincidentally a midwife) is visiting on Monday so I'll talk to her about it, I think.
Wing, hope the chicken pox scare gets resolved somehow. Must be difficult for you. And fx MiniWing stays put til your midwife is back :-)
Frog, good luck in whatever you choose to do. I can't imagine what you're going though with all the decision-making. xx
Gary, congrats on the scan and yay for team blue!!
Guinea, Baby B has moved from right to left overnight. Most weird having movement and kicks on the 'wrong' side...he's been on the right for ages! Seems to have given him a lease of life as he's barely stopped this morning. Clearly settling in :-)
Oh, I'm rubbish...nice to see you back, waves. I really hope your sickness does one soon. At least the treatment is doing what it can.
Hello - its my last day at work today
Mrs Bri the movements sound good and impressed that you can feel so well - I can't figure out if I've got a head or a bony bum stuck in my left side!
Kitten I think that's the stage where I started feeling much better and was getting very impatient for the next scan! Bet you can't wait!
Wing it all seems like its getting closer for you - I have also taken on board your cord clamping info and also want to make sure that the managed 3rd stage now doesn't happen till all the pulsing has stopped and the cord is clamped.
Tired how's Fern - we need more photos
Waves hang on in there - but glad it seems to be more manageable
Gary does that mean you are going to be hitting the shops now you know your flavour of baby???
Frog really sorry you are going through all this difficulty - I hope you've managed to get some advice about Harmony from people that know about it.
Anyway got a few things to wrap up today at work. Will be quite sad to go - I'm a contractor but I seem to end up in places for ages and have been here for 10 months. That said I can't wait to have some time off - plan for next week is sleep!
Stuck...I have absolutely no clue which way round Baby B is! I guess the harder jabs are feet though, as I think legs are stronger than arms? No idea really though!
Hope you get everything sorted with work :-)
Hi all! Just a quick one to say hi and hope all are well.
Baby Pineapple has been doing lots of big rolling, moving, stretching in belly in the last few days! Tummy is making big movements which is funny . Kicks were subtle before, compared to them now! MrsBri - that is funny baby B has changed sides & kicks are all opposite now!
Interesting about the cord clamping Wing. I will read up on it too, a friend of mine did mention this to me too.
Beginning of Easter long weekend for us! Looking forward to lot and rest and time spent with DH
I bet the weather in Oz will be better than it bloomin well is here pineapple - they are predicting a white Easter and freezing temperatures lasting into mid-April!
I am pissed off today with DH for various small but annoying reasons.
In other news, having spoken to my DMum, I'm happy that I do have CP immunity and actually I do remember playing a lot with other children who had it because I'd already had it so it was fine. Saved me schlepping in for an emergency GP appt this morning and spending time sitting around
playing words with friends twiddling my thumbs in the waiting room.
It gives me an extra incentive to really try with the BFing as then MiniWing will get about 7 days' extra immunity I think. Then if she does get it early on I think the chances are it'll be milder for her.
Of course this is all ignoring if poor DS gets it. I had it really badly apparently (in all orificises, DM said) and if he gets it, I'll be focussing on the baby and I feel guilty already! It wouldn't be the best start for him with a new sister usurping his place in the family as no 1 attention draw, and I'd not be able to look after him 24/7 etc etc.
Still, I know it's all a lot of 'what ifs' - I just pray he doesn't get it this time round...
Stuck, enjoy your last day and then Mat Leave woo hoo! MrsBri, even when it is pointed out to me, I have no idea which way MiniWing is lying. Eg right now I reckon it's all different to how she was yesterday but if her head is fixed (a term I'd not heard before as it doesn't mean she's engaged) I don't know if that's possible. One of my other friends had two HBs and the second one took ages as it was an undiagnosed back-to-back labour so that's playing on my mind a bit.
Right, better go x
Tired, Fern is gorgeous. And growing so fast!
Thanks mrsbri! She so contented, sleeps like a dream and really smiley. We are all totally in love with her.
Wing, so much to think about but tti not ti worry. Fingers crossed DS doesn't catch cp, if he does then it will hopefully be ok. Maybe miniwing will be late and it won't be an issue? Perhaps you'll be the first mum to wish their baby is late
Hello all, no time to catch up properly but just wanted to wish everyone a happy relaxing Easter!
Sorry i havent been around my phone got cut off. The phone company are incapable of correctly setting up a direct debit it seems.
Henry has reflux and is on gaviscon but its not better and his poo.stinks of vinegar so we have been reffered to the peads. Zac is just zac and just turned 14 months.
How is everyone? Any exciting news?
Right firstly, do not get your hopes up ladies!
DH and I had a big row at lunchtime (over nothing serious) and I ended up sobbing in a huge hormonal mess for half hour then went and laid down in bed over thinking everything and how I was going to to ruin DS's life and I resented MiniWing already and really didn't want another DC (after always not wanting an only child and trying for her for 18 months etc etc).
I then realised I was a little bit 'damp' but thought I'd wet myself (oh the joys of late pregnancy with a DC2) but it was pink so I kept an eye on it while I
stayed in the bedroom and ignored DH and DS rested for an hour but have had to change my panty liner twice now.
On top of this I have had some low period pains and a couple of 'ooh' period pains although not for 25 mins. And I've been feeling MiniWing moving about really low down as if my pelvic floor muscles have been doing odd things all by themselves.
So something may happen, but probably not! I bet I post this time tomorrow and nothing has moved forward!
Oh and DH and I are fine now and DS has gone to his end of term disco and a sleepover.
Haha something - I think I'm just desperately symptom spotting like we all did back in the 2ww!
How long ago that all seems now
Ooh, indeed, Wing! I'll keep my fingers crosses that baby is on the way! :-)
Ooooh come on miniWing, time to come out and meet the world!! Glad you're feeling better wing - sometimes a mini-meltdown is just what we need...like hitting the reset button
something poor little Henry, hope they fix up his vinegary bum soon, sounds nasty
Ooh fingers crossed something's happening WING, perfect timing too if DS is out on a sleepover.
Yes it would be good timing wouldn't it! Don't worry all, I'll let you lot know if anything starts occurring properly
Ooo fingers crossed Wing, will be thinking of you - keep us updated. How lovely that you won't need to think about when to go to hospital but can stay in your nest .
I'm actually in hospital atm. Started getting contractions today - intense, not painful as such but felt more than Braxton Hicks and lasting longer. I rang the hospital as I'm only 36 weeks and they have decided to keep an eye on me overnight, primarily because my polyhydramnios has got worse (so I'm told) and that carries some extra risks. Been here since 4pm and I'm starving now! Going to go for a wander in search of food soon I think.
Well you must keep us posted too GUINEA, hope miniguinea stays in a little longer and that you are ok x
Oh my goodness Guinea! You are in a good place for them to keep an eye on you and MiniGuinea Could this turn into a double birth thread...?!
(Nothing happening here though.)
Oh, good luck Guinea. I hope everything is OK and baby hangs on in there a bit longer.
Oooo double birth!! I remeber the excitement when my waters broke!
Re henrys reflux the hospital called and henry has an appt on tuesday very impressed as the dr made the refferal yesterday xx
Good luck Guinea, hope you find some food soon.
Hope something happens overnight Wing, would be hilarious to see your DS's face if he came home from a sleepover to a new baby!
something, that's nice & quick! Hope they can help him.
Stuck, hope you're putting your feet up tonight!
Nothing much happening here, PIL are
stealing taking DS for a few nights from tomorrow, usually I throw him at them & look forward to time away to recharge but since getting upduffed I hate the idea of being away from him.
Bought this suit for baby, but not buying anything else new for him!
Gary that suit is cute! My boys were brought big brother and little brother tops
I was on the Just Shagging thread from last November/December after a miscarriage in November. However, my mental health (late diagnosed PND from DS and social anxiety) took a bit of a dive and I took myself off to a quiet corner.
Anyways, found myself pregnant in early January and am now almost 16 weeks!
May I join you?
Hello lady, you graduated at the same time as me!!! Got my bfp on jan 15th.... So am 15 weeks tomorrow. Welcome! Xx
Something that's great about the quick referral
Gary, really cute suit!
Frog, how are you?
Lady, welcome and congratulations
Thinking of you Wing and Guinea!
Tired - Fern is so cute!! She is filling out lots isn't she? Aww x
Gary, that's such a cute suit :-)
Hi Lady, glad you've joined us.
Oh, and Baby B has now moved to the middle. Very interesting indeed!
Well, after having a bath and a bit of a sleep I was thinking I was on the home strait and everything had stopped. Now back up to 5 mins apart. MW just sat with me for the last few and says that they're palpating quite hard . She's called the Dr. Still could all stop in 10 mins though!
Guinea - it's certainly happening here too!
Ow ow OOOWWWWW!
Baby girl born 4:40am before midwife and paramedic could arrive! Bloody fast!!
~ Faith Alexandra, 7lb 5oz. ~
Will update properly later. All fine here although I am in shock
Eeeeeeeeee!! Congratulations wing, beautiful name, hope everything is ok xx
Wow, Wing, bloody well done! Hope DH was a good midwife! Congratulations :-)
Beautiful name. Can't wait to meet her. xxx
And come on, Guinea, let's go for 2 on one day! :-)
Congratulations Wing. Beautiful name. Well done you. Glad you're both fine. Can't wait to hear more about it.
No baby here! The contractions keep stopping and starting. Not sure what they're going to do with me ... let me go home hopefully.
Congratuations wing and what a speedy entry for Faith. A beautiful name (my DD is tallys-faith) hope you manage some rest today
Hoping all is well with you guinea
I'm off to hospital later this morning for IV fluids etc, it is so comforting to hear of the new arrivals as it reminds me why I am going through all this! Stbxh moved out last night, so I now need to adjust to my new life. I guess if I have such a speedy arrival it will be my DCs acting as emergency midwives!
Congratulations Wing xxxx
Wow, Congratulations wing, how quick was that! So glad I checked back in this morning. Lovely name too!!
What a rush. My best friend gave birth a few days ago after a 3 hr labour! Everyone seems to be having quick and smooth labours.
I feel like Im no where close. Finished work yesterday, and just know the next few weeks will drag by. Officially I only have 4 weeks left but, I was induced at 42 weeks last time, so it could be more like 6!
Good luck guinea!
WING huge congratulations amazing news! Beautiful name can't wait for photos. Well done and welcome Faith xxxx
That's what I thought too Practising!
I'm in no man's land - still contracting (too much to say I can go home) but not enough to have a baby. Just wish my body would make up it's mind - babies eh, so unpredictable!
Thank you so much all!
Can I ask that you keep it off facebook until we've announced it later?
Thank you and 'speak' soon! Xxxxx
Lovely names...please take a photo of DS's face when he comes home from the sleepover!
for Guinea, good luck for today.
Waves, hope last night passed peacefully for you. x
Good luck Guinea, hope it all kicks off properly for you soon.
Hi Lady nice to see you over this side of the JSing fence
Wow, a huge congrats Wing!! Welcome to Faith . Xx
Wow HUGE congrats wing and welcome baby Faith can't wait to see pics!
<shakes pompoms extra hard in guinea's direction > come on miniguinea!!
Congrats and welcome to ladyflumpalot I remember you from js'ing, lovely to have you here
waves glad things are getting a bit more sorted for you....you'll have to do some trial runs with your kids haha!
I've just flopped on the sofa after a busy morning doing housey bits, and I'm definitely getting poked from the inside
Wow congrats wing!!
Practasing i dont have smooth quick labours! Ds1 17 hours on hormone drip-emcs
Ds2 26 hours after waters broke-emcs!
Woohoo! Congrats Wing and love love LOVE the name!
Good luck Guinea
And welcome Lady, more congrats!
Apologies something, I guess not everyone has it easy, hope you are not too traumatised.
I keep thinking about my first birth, and thinking, I so don't want a repeat! Even tho I managed a natural delivery in the end.
i would love a go at a water birth, but would really like to know how a natural onset labour might go for me, and whether it might be more manageable.
Water births look amazing!
Right, v quick version of the birth story!
It was all pretty quick even though I was planning a home birth anyway! I woke at 1:30 with cx every 10-15 mins, then woke DH at 2:50, started monitoring the cx at 3:40 and they got long and close v quickly. Called for the MW at 4:10, started pushing at 4:30, DH called 999 at 4:35 and she was born a few mins later! Paramedic turned up 5:05, ambulance at 5:15, MW at 5:20!!!!
Phew! She's been sleeping a lot today so I feel like I've got off easily so far but not looking forward to the milk coming in! DS taken it all in his stride ie not that bothered!!
Woop woop! Super congrats Wing and what a lovely birth story and beautiful first and middle name. It's certainly been a good Friday for you, lol.
How are you feeling now? Looking forward to seeing photos.
I hope my labour is as quick as yours!
How are things going Guinea ? Hope you and miniGuinea are well.
Welcome to the thread, Lady.
Congratulations wing how fabulous! Glad you got your home birth - how did you feel with it just being the two of you? Were you calm and relaxed or stressing that no one was arriving in time? I have no idea how I would have coped but I am sure DP would have been in full panic mode! Lovely name and glad that your DS is taking it all in his stride - though he might think twice about going to his next sleepover if he comes home to a new baby!
waves it sounds like you are having a tough time with this pg - the hg and the situation at home; hope you are managing to take care of yourself.
something glad you got the appointment so promptly and hope that Henry is sorted quickly - hope it is not too tough a wait until Tuesday.
Practising nice to see you - I thought I would be sitting it out until 42 weeks even though all the medical people said not! Can't actually imagine it tbh. Hope that you are not too uncomfortable and that, when it happens, the birth goes smoothly.
Lady congratulations on the bfp and to reaching 16 weeks. Hope you are feeling well.
Hi to anyone I have missed - hope all are well...
I am sitting on the sofa cuddling Evan
DP has just taken DDs up to bed - very late but it has been quite a day!
I got to NICU at about 8.30am this morning and the ward sister said she had been about to phone me. That caused a moment of panic as they have never had to call with Evan so it makes you think there is something wrong.
But then she said, "Well, you're going to need your car seat if you are taking him home today!"
Again, a moment of panic but then it sunk in and we were out of the hospital at lunchtime. I did consider just taking him home to surprise everyone but then thought that, had it been DP at the hospital this morning, then I would want to know and be involved in Evan coming home. So I called DP but we agreed to keep it a surprise for the DDs so my dad came over - and put the cot together for us!
Evan passed all of his discharge tests - car seat, eyes, hearing, weight (5lb 3oz) with flying colours.
The girls were very excited to see him home - the NICU staff gave him a knitted hat in the design on a chicken so he was little easter chick and even brought chocolate eggs for the DDs, courtesy of the NICU staff.
DD1 had the first cuddle and was quickly followed by DD2. They have both helped with nappy changes and feeding and we took him out in the car where the girls have been taking it in turns to sit next to him.
He has had cuddles with my Dparents who can't get over how tiny he is in person!
I am hoping that we have a good first night - both DDs have not been sleeping through the night since I had him and are anxious about wanting us in the night and us being busy with Evan. Hopefully such a late night for them might mean they are so tired and sleep through - although DP has a habit of falling asleep with them so I might need to go wake him in a while!
So exciting that you have got your family compete at home Dysgu!
Wondering how Guinea is getting on... Hope all is well wherever she is...
DH and I had a few hours between us last night. I was pretty much proper up the whole time with F on me, either sleeping of me trying to get her to wake up and feed or her feeding!
I really can't believe how different I feel to after I had DS. DH said to me this morning that he doesn't remembered smiling at all those first few weeks Must have been awful for him. Having DS helps and even last night, even when it took me 45 frustrating minutes to get F to wake and latch, I was relieved when she did so could relax more about it. Even though she then went on and off for two hours while I was trying not to fall asleep!!
Not looking forward to the baby blues hitting in the next day or so but I will try to remember that these are all phases. Pleeeease remind me of that when I'm posting really fed up posts!
Love to all - sorry I don't have time to comment on each of your entries right now
Great news Dysgu
Glad that things are going well so far, Wing It is a shame we have so many hormones flying around at this time- that combined with sleep deprivation can make the first few months so hard.
I seem to be having Braxton Hicks for the first time this pregnancy (31 weeks). It's quite weird (and hard to stop myself from packing my hospital bag in a panic!)
Hope everyone is well.
Thanks for all the welcomes! Am off to read the thread and catch up.
Well, I had some bloody discharge and my womb was feeling all tight, so I rang the midwives. The lady I spoke to said to come in (to the delivery dept) so I went up to the hospital for a couple of hours.
They monitored baby's heartbeat and whether I was having any contractions, and did an internal exam, but everything is fine so I could come home. Just have to call them again if there's any more blood.
Better safe than sorry. I dreamt last night that I was having contractions, so they may have been Braxton Hicks as well. On the plus side, I am now going to go out asap and buy some prem and newborn baby clothes, just in case. And some less exciting disposable pants and huge pads!
Lovely posts from Dysgu and Wing. Newborn cuddles are just amazing. As Pineapple said down thread fern is growing fast, she's 11weeks already and filling out quickly.
Hope you are ok Guinea?
Child glad things are ok always better to get checked out.
So many congrats to Wing and you seem to be coping with the first days wonderfully!
And Dysgu great to hear about you taking Evan home to the family - it sounds (and looks from the fb pics) just lovely.
Child I'm already scared of BH and I'm only 16 weeks! I'm such a wimp I'm sure I'll show up at hospital and they'll look at me like I'm a right muppet...
More good lucks to Guinea hope all is well.
We've finally started trying to choose some of the 'kit' for baby. Any thoughts on Stokke Xplory vs Bugaboo Chameleon for buggy? I like the Xplory for the height and eye contact etc, DP likes the Bugaboo because, erm, they make it in orange and he likes that colour ha ha!
And anyone used a hammock instead of moses basket? We are going to get the Stokke cot that starts as a micro-cot thing so may not need the hammock for long, and it does look lovely and cosy and good stats on sleeping... ooh this is difficult!
Ooh Wing she is gorgeous. Sounds like you and DH are doing well, so happy to hear that .
Dysgu - lovely to hear Evan is well!
Child - hope you're doing ok. You're right getting check out in case, I would've done the same. I've had some really light spots of pink a few months ago after JSing and also have had strong BH after too . The tightening feeling is a bit weird isn't it?
Hooya - we bought the Bugaboo cameleon. Have to admit we didn't look at anything else as it was on sale and a really good deal so we took it! Feels really smooth to push around and easy enough to take apart to collapse and reassemble. Not too heavy either which is great. We got the red and black , again no choice with colour but I happen to love red!
Congrats, Dysgu, on taking Evan home. Must be fantastic to have your whole family at home :-)
Child, good to get these things looked at. How far along are you now? Hopefully all is OK now.
Guinea, hope everything is ok and you have a better idea what is happening now.
Waves, I hope you manage to settle into your altered situation soon. Hopefully your DC will help you.
Baby B has been utterly bonkers since yesterday. He can't seem to make his mind up where he wants to settle. Though he keeps trying head down, in the middle, he keeps returning to the right hand side. Plenty of time to turn though. Kind of!
Saw my parents and sister for the last time before birth on Friday / Saturday. Scary stuff...coming round so quickly!
Hi all. Thought I would update ...
... Baby still inside which is a good thing
I've been released from hospital following an encouraging scan to see the position of the baby and check where the cord is. They've basically said its a waiting game now but they are happy for me to wait at home, on the proviso I go in if it all hots up again/waters break/mvts change etc. I'm still contracting - sometimes regularly for an hr or two and other times sporadically. I'm torn between wanting her to come out, because I am fed up of latent labour (a long latent phase is apparently common with third babies at Tired and Dysgu for missing out this 'wonderful' stage!) but if she stays inside until next Saturday I can still have my HB
though if she comes on Thursday/Friday then I'm staying at home anyway
MrsBri I'm 31 weeks.
Guinea are you getting enough rest or are the contractions quite full-on?
Some of the contractions are like prolonged, slightly more intense BH. Others are crampy and stop me moving/talking and I have to sway rhythmically. I looked v. strange at church this morning
Guinea, I'd not heard of this latent phase. Is that like the first stage of labour but before you hit 4cms when they say it's proper established labour? That is a right pain (no pun intended)
I'm currently giving Snuggly newborn feeds. Looks like my milk is just starting to come through. So weird - never had this with DS as the bfing just wasn't working (partially due to his bad jaundice taking him back into hospital). She seems to be fairly good at latching on but we'll see what happens once the milk is in and she ramps up feeding... Not looking forward to that as we've been relatively spoiled with a couple of good stretches of sleep I feel okay in myself too this time round but have been keeping an eye on myself and my moods as well.
Hmm... <tickles DD lightly to get her going again>
Right, I need my hand back to relieve the cramp in my supporting arm! Hope you all had lovely Easters
Yes Wing its also called prodromal labour in some literature and you're right, its pain in every sense!
Glad BFing seems to be easier this time round. Can't wait to have squidgy newborn feeds - I LOVE BFing
good excuse to sit down, eat lots and cuddle babies!
Going to Ikea today and then probably for a walk with my DPs and their dogs, need to get the kids to run off all their Easter eggs!
Hope you all had a lovely Easter day. We celebrated at church in the morning but spent the afternoon sorting the house out - few more bits and pieces and I think we are there.
I was going to ask Wing if there was anything you wish you'd had at your HB that I should get...but baby Faith didn't seem to want to engage in a leisurely process . Still...any words of wisdom?
Guinea, yes it was so quick that all our plans went out the window (just like with DS where I never opened my labour bag) so I'm not sure what we could have needed more of but the one thing is definitely TOWELS.
I had got four old ones to use for the really yucky stuff but because I was in the bathroom with nothing else on the floor (ie the dust sheets we'd bought for the lounge carpet which we were going to cover with newspapers and then a few towels) and I shouted at DH to get those just before DD arrived, they got chucked as there were no point in trying to keep them. [long sentence, sorry!]
So we had enough for DD's birth (still a lovely novelty to write DD!!), but I do think we could have done with more. She was wrapped up in the first towel to hand after she was born (my bath towel) and then another one when she was checked over a couple of hours later as then of carouse I needed one for my shower - a clean one for my top half and one that could get blood on for my bottom half. And then of course I've had showers every day afterwards to keep the stitches clean (I'm not a bath person and I can't feel these ones anyway so haven't felt the need to sit in a bath with tea tree oil/lavender oil in).
So yes - towels!!!
Milk has apparently come in as DD finishes feeding now with a milky mouth. She's a bit jaundiced but otherwise all lovely. And I've realised that I really need to head over to the Just Mumming page!
Oh Guinea you must be knackered! Here's hoping everthing settles down pre Saturday (or Thurs or Fri ). Are they really sore?
Wing brilliant that your milk is in and lovely to hear you looking forward to BFing. I'm pretty excited about BFing though very scared too
will defo be all over mn for tips
MrsBri I am at the waiting to feel movement stage so I am so jealous of your active baby!! Does it keep you awake / is it sore?
Pineapple right that's one vote for the Bugaboo - thanks
We got great news today - both mine and DP's gene tests for CF came back negative . The tests only cover 90% of variants so there is still a risk but it's tiny now - 1 in 2,700 ish, phew!
Got another docs appointment tomorrow at 16 weeks but I'm not sure if we get a scan - here's hoping!
That's such good news, Hooya :-) Bet you're so relieved.
And great news about the milk, Wing.
Hooya, sometimes I get kept awake at night if baby decides to Riverdance as I'm trying to get to sleep. Other times I must sleep through it, as I dream I'm being kicked!
And sometimes it's a bit ouchy, yes. Though I hate saying that. There's one particular thing that baby does, no idea what it is, but it feels like knuckles being dragged across my insides. That hurts.
And now baby is stronger and bigger, some of the kicks can take my breath away. I do love feeling baby move though, so wouldn't change it.
Good news about the CF results hooya! And on the pushchair front I have nothing constructive to add except for go for the Stokke Xplory as its BEAUTIFUL! I really wanted one but we couldn't quite stretch to it unfortunately - I think I would have just parked it in the corner of the front room and stared at it!
wing sounds like everything is going swimmingly with little DD, so glad that bf is working out for you so far!
I know I've not mentioned loads of everyone's important news but my excuse is I've got a horrible cold and my head is full of treacle so I will have to pop back later and catch up properly when it hurts less <self pity emoticon>
At my end bfing seems to be going relatively well. DD is a bit of a slow eater though and pauses after every (say) 5-10 sucks so I have to keep tickling/stroking her. And the biggest issue I have are the massive cluster feeds she's done for the past 3 nights (so every night apart from her first). Sat was 9pm-2am, Sun was better at 5-10:30pm but last night was roughly 7pm-1am! She then does sleep for a few hours but it's just crazy.
She latches on fine then does her feed-pause-feed-pause but also falls asleep on me after 15-30mins bit if I try to put her down she starts rooting and sucking her fist and cries until I start feeding her again!
Last night I just let her fall asleep properly on me at 1 and dozed myself for 15 mins before I tried to move her and that seemed to work. I don't think I can do much about it - DH got really frustrated last night because nothing he could possibly do would satisfy her as she obviously was hungry.
He'd introduce a bottle tonight if he could but the MW and the What To Expect... book (best book ever!) say wait 2-3 weeks before doing so so that's what we are going to aim for (two weeks today basically).
Right, she's getting hungry again so I'd better go!
Ooh MrsBri that sounds painful! Judging by miniHooya's kicks in the scan vids, I'm in for some fun...
Kitten boo about the cold, so crap when you can't get proper drugged up either! I am with you on the Xplory, it does look brilliant - DP seems to be leaning a bit so maybe I'll persuade him
Wing that sounds so exhausting! Good on you, have some and to keep the energy up!
So we got another scan today - doc is 85% that the baby is a boy! All measuring good or ahead of dates .
I'll post the scan vid on the fb page - there was a nice moment when he was saying can't tell, then moved angle and we all thought we saw boy bits and he went "oh, looks like it's probably a boy!"
Also another classic line when I asked about diet as I am worried I'm gaining too fast - he said up the protein and less carbs, as (quote) "babies are made of protein, not noodles!" He also reassured me that DP can be in the room when I have my c-section (some in Japan don't allow them - wtf?). So all in all a brilliant scan visit!
Hooya....excellent news all over your post today!!!
Congrats on Master Hooya... And really good news about your oh being allowed with you!!!
Hooya - that is great news that the test results are all clear !!
MrsBri - sounds like your little one is super active! Mine has active days then quieter ones. I know that weird knuckle feeling u described, it's kind of like a deep rolling sensation to me! Some of the movements are bizarre but I'm really loving it and can't wait to meet bub.
Wing - I will miss you once you leave this thread!! I guess we will all move over to the mums threads eventually though.
Kitten - hope you get well soon!
Notsoold - how are you doing? Hope you've been well. How many weeks are you now?
All going well on my end over here, cannot complain. Have been feeling v tired this week, keep waking up at 4am or so but manage to get back to sleep. Alarm then goes off and it's off to work! Another 4.5 weeks left f work for me but as I am on contract I have told them I'm willing to work till end of may if they need me. Really could do with the extra money and i am feeling fit and well so far so I guess why not?
Bought some nappies on sale last week, I got 7 packs at 50% off! They are the Naty/Natures baby brand and I quite like the Eco and health aspect of them. Not sure if anyone has used them before or not? I plan to buy a pack of nappies a week from now till due date, maybe it'll be less hassle down the track...any thoughts?
I plan to use modern cloth nappies eventually but think we will probably start on disposables at the beginning. Everyone has different thoughts and advice but I'd like to give them a go!
Have a lovely day everyone
Ooh, a boy, fantastic news, Hooya :-) When is your next scan so you can check / confirm?
Pineapple, I have active days and quiet days too. I guess Baby B can't sustain utterly mental on a permanent basis!
We can't wait to meet baby either...DH is stupidly excited, bless him. :-)
Very sweet to hear that your OH is so excited MrsBri. My OH doesn't really 'do' excited. I know he'll be pleased when baby is HERE and we are both safe - until then he tends to worry until then.
Fantastic news about your scan and results Hooya - you must be very relieved.
Glad you're still feeling well Kitten. When I was pregnant with DS (DC1) I worked until the end and felt fine, plus it maximised my maternity leave/pay with him. I am really glad I'm not teaching now though .
Obviously I meant to tag you about the working thing Pineapple - good job baby brain is already a valid excuse!
I have a question...how to explain to DH that his jsing time is finite (remembering my other pregnancies/bfing times) and therefore he should enjoy as it lasts???
pineapple I am still 10+5 weeks.....
Lost you all for a couple of days.
So glad to hear your news Hooya! A little boy, how lovely.
Cough cough cough. Sniff. Sniff sniff.
<rubs itchy eyes>
<feels sorry for fellow commuters>
<wishes day nurse was pg friendly>
Feel for you kitten - just like holidays I think a cold was waiting for me to finish work and I'm sat here sniffing and feeling sorry for myself also.
notsoold - I kept warning my DP that the JSing would diminish but he's the one pointing out that it doesn't seem to be happening yet and asking if he will get a break when the baby is born!
that sounds like a bargain pineapple on the nappies - I'm trying to buy 1 newborn pack from each brand and will then see what suits - I'll check out those eco friendly ones next time I'm in a big supermarket. The only thing I've picked up from threads on here is not to overbuy in case your baby is born bigger and you need the next size up.
and congrats on a little boy hooya
Apart from this stinky cold I am loving being off work - have managed to finish a big sofa throw that I've crocheted for my mum (has taken 8 months it was so big!) which means I can start on a snuggly blanket for mini-Stuck. Have got a big 'to do' list but I'll start that in a few days!!!
Well so far my 'day of being
childless productive' has involved folding some bedding and having a bath. I did attempt to do some reading for my PhD whilst in the bath but unfortunately my heavily pregnant brain is too addled to make sense of it . Think I might just type up my existing thoughts and send them to my supervisors as they are.
I'm going to buy the last few baby things this afternoon - maternity pads, breast pads etc. I'll be 'full-term' on Saturday so have given baby permission to stay in until then but then she needs to get a move on, I'm bored now!
Just in case she settles in for a bit longer
which is highly likely I am booking myself some lovely treatments next week. It's my birthday on Monday so I have a good excuse to treat myself I think. I'm going to have a Maya abdominal massage which aims to balance your womb and your internal organs. It can, apparently, help baby engage faster, reduce time/pain in labour and helps remove scar tissue - which I have masses of. If nothing else though I get to lie down for a couple of hours whilst someone rubs my ginormous belly, which can only be a good thing I figure.
How is everyone else planning on spending their last weeks/days of maternity leave?
Guinea I really hope its my last 'days' of maternity leave, Im getting bored and yet trying to keep busy enough for time to fly by! Really Im just filling time with last odd jobs around the house. Good idea about booking treats, I have a hair appointment in a couple of weeks and think I might book a pedicure too. The abdo rub sounds interesting, hope it works out for you.
Anyone have any ideas about spending quality time with 2yr old dd? Really feel like I should make the most of her, as I will be distracted, no doubt, when screaming newborn arrives.
stuck your crafty projects sound lovely, but Im trying not start anything too big, I wont have time to finish.
kitten hope that cold is on its way out now!
notsoold I think you phrased that just right! My poor DH had no warning!
Guinea that massage sounds good. Is it only for the last few days of pregnancy or would it be safe at 33 weeks?
Practicing does your 2 year old like crafts? You could make something special together. Also maybe a small trip out to somewhere they like, like a farm? But the weather isn't that helpful is it? Or, they may be too young, but I've been thinking about fitting in another trip to the cinema before baby arrives - I know I'll miss it when I can't go for a few months.
Well, I managed to get up today, have breakfast, have a bath, buy a mattress online and then had to go back to bed as I was absolutely knackered for no reason - and I slept well last night. Terrible.
child Id love to do something crafty with dd. i might try doing some salt dough with her and maybe decorating the letters of her name. Will have to look up a recipe. not sure where that thunderbolt came from, but excited now! will also look into a day trip with her, I think. Thanks for ideas!
Morning! Cold is in it's way out now thankfully - hope you're feeling better too stuck
child I often find baths make me sleepy, especially in the morning!
Can I ask for some advice please from you lovely ladies? I think my boobs are trying to take over the world so need to invest in some new bras - should I go straight for nursing bras now? Or are my bazongas likely to outgrow these ones too before I'm done?! Also any recommends gratefully received
Hi Kitten...my boobs did that. And have started doing it again.
You should go and get maternity bras (usually not underwired, but some are. I'm not comfy with wire now), not nursing ones. You'll need to get refitted nearer to the due date for nursing bras.
And mine have loads of support, you wouldn't know they don't have wire!
Child the massage is suitable for everyone as far as I know - I know you don't live near me but this is the person I'm seeing and her website has some great info.
Ended up in MAC again last night with regular contractions but thought baby had done a flip! Luckily she's still head down so all is good and I came home straight away.
Glad your cold is going Kitten.
Re. maternity/nursing bras they usually recommend getting fitted for nursing bras from 36 weeks, so before then its probably worth getting supportive maternity bras. When I had DC1 my breasts exploded after day 3 so I recommend getting your daytime nursing bras after baby arrives. But you can get night/sleep nursing bras that will see you through late pregnancy and early breastfeeding. I've just ordered these from Jojo Maman Bebe.
Thanks for the tips ladies, will investigate some maternity bras for now then. Hopefully I'll be able to find some comfy underwired ones, not sure non-wired would cope with my boobage (DH keeps offering to find me a nice metal girder )
I've gone up to 38E and non wired is fine! Maternity bras are made to be supportive :-)
Stuck! The crochet blanket sounds lovely. I'm planning to quilt all dd's clothes into a nice quilt for her big bed one day!
Guinea, how are you feeling today. Sill having contractions? How long to go now?
Kitten, I agree with the advice you've been given re bras. Try to wait until your milks come in for feeding bras. My size changed so much especially with ds1. Sleep bras are good for the first few days. Happy shopping!
Love the idea of using baby clothes to make a quilt Tired. Couldn't really do it now as I have given away all of DSs and DDs clothes so only DD2 would have one (gosh it seems weird referring to a DD2!)
Still having contractions yes - ended up in MAC again last night as I thought she'd flipped but thankfully she's still head down. As a bonus I did manage to scrounge some of the bedmats from the hospital which saves me buying some
Feel like I am
not at all ready for my homebirth. I went in to a local charity shop yesterday and got loads of towels. Just washed them and they are drying as we 'speak'. I am hoping that DD takes this as an indication that she can come, though quite where I'd find the energy to give birth from I don't know - I am absolutely exhausted today.
The HB notes from the hospital arrived today and I have bought a very powerful torch, which was the only thing the HB midwife actually asked for.
Is it bedtime yet?
I know, it's too late already to make quilts for the boys however their bedroom is "where the wild things are" complete with a full wall mural, and matching bed linen which I painted/ made so I have made them things. I'm literally cutting her little vests and baby grows etc into squares ready to quilt as she's grows out of them. She really is our last dc, we feel totally complete as a family so I'm happy not to save things. It sounds like you need a good nights sleep. Glad you are as ready as you'll ever be! Not long hopefully x
Guinea You do sound sorted! You may be having contractions but my midwife said i MIGHT actually have an early labour due to my high risk status... hmmm, bet you still beat me! but it has my DH on major alert.
Tired Your idea for a quilt is lovely, but Im not sure how you can bring yourself to cut up baby clothes, i think Id be in tears. (That could just be my over emotional pregnant state tho)
I love that idea about making the baby clothes into a quilt Tired - we too gave away most of the DDs' clothes but I am thinking I could easily do it with their clothes from now - they still have some lovely clothes and I expect Evan's will not be so cute when he gets bigger. What size squares are you cutting?
Practising. I am keeping some special tiny things in memory boxes. As I sorted out all the boys things I've made up a box for each child. Hospital wrist bands, first photos, first tiny clothes and special bits.
Dysgu, I've cut 10cm squares as that was the biggest square I could make out of the smallest vests! I'm going for the bright things rather than white based items as then I hope the quilt will last her a long time. I'm hoping make it big enough to go on a toddler bed and then it could be used as a throw on a big bed. I'm quite crafty but never done a quilt before. I think I need interfacing as the majority of things are going to be jersey fabrics. Have you made one before?
Hullo! Haven't had a chance to read up very far I'm afraid, but I hope everyone is doing well.
Had 16 week check this morning and heard the heartbeat! Was very strong and loud. The midwife suggested I record it on my phone as well.
On the down side, I appear to have SPD.
Hello ladies - thank it's the weekend!
Kitten glad your cold is on the way out! Re bras I wish I'd had positive experience with non underwired like MrsBri but I haven't - have bought a couple from M&S and Elle McPherson (which are quite pretty) but I can't actually bring myself to wear them outside - I'm about 32E or 34DD at the moment and I just feel the non wired ones flatten me out and make me look
even more porky... I have instead opted for wired ones but in a 34 or 36 instead of 32 so they are comfier...
Stuck I wish I had your crafty skills for making lovely baby stuff! I am getting good at online shopping, does that count?
Guinea so exciting! What's the torch for - is it in case of powercut, or for the midwife to get a really good look at your fanjo?
Lady sorry about SPD, is it really painful?
My exercise DVDs have arrived... means I have to start doing exercise, doesn't it? I have gained 6.5 kilos which is awful so I really need to sort it out before I become a blimp in a wrap dress!
Hooya, I gained quite fast, but it has evened out since! I'm all front, so from behind I'm not really pregnant, though now bump is spreading width ways, this illusion won't continue much longer! :-/
I'm doing a cross stitch for Baby B. As creative as I get, sadly. I love the idea of making something more, but I know my limits. (Anyone else picturing Harry Enfield there?!)
My bras are from Mothercare and I'm very impressed!
And the torch is for fanjo viewing, yes...I've been subjected to an industrial torch at Ormskirk both times I've had bleeding. Midwife holds torch, Dr goes in. Dignified!
At the mental image of midwife wielding enormous floodlight style torch while doc prepares to "go in" hahaha!!
Loving all the talk of quilts, such a gorgeous idea...my sister made one for our brother's DS so maybe I'll steal the idea and ask her to do the same for us!
lady hurrah for hearing the heartbeat but boo to SPD. Have you had it checked out yet?
I'll try a few different bra styles on then and see what feels best. TBH I've never worn non-wired due before due to the flattening issue hooya mentioned, so I am a bit biased but will remain open minded and see what works! I was a 36D pre-preg so am dreading getting measured again!!
Off to watch DH go zorbing today - cant decide whether to be jealous or thankful that I can't partake!
It was exactly like that, Kitten! The torch was one of those that needs a massive, rectangular / cuboid battery. The kind you buy from B&Q :-) Proper industrial thing...we had a laugh with the midwife about it!
My DH loves my increasing boobs...I do keep reminding him they aren't for his benefit. No leaking here yet though. Surely that happens soon? I'm 29+2 today.
Please excuse the crass-ness but the SPD feels like someone has kicked me right between my legs. It aches and feels bruised if I walk around or stand for a while. I don't feel it while moving, but when I stop it starts to ache.
The midwife said to call if it gets worse and they'll put me in for maternity physio.
Some women never get pregnancy leakage mrsbri - others get loads, both is normal!
Sorry you're suffering lady I had spd/pgp with DD1 and was in agony. I ended up on crutches. Went to see the physio who was useless and in desperation ended up seeing a chiropractor - she was a MIRACLE worker. I went from barely being able to walk to practically pain free in about 2 weeks. I haven't had it this time but have been with other pregnancy niggles and this chiropractor was just as
magic effective. I HIGHLY recommend them! Also ice can help.
My torch is industrial sized! DH is concerned he's going to end up holding it for the midwife and seeing far more than he bargained for !
Lady - I hope your SPD doesn't get worse, sounds awful. I have it also but think it is on a minor level. Can feel the soreness between the legs too and especially if I stand on one leg getting dressed etc.
MrsBri - I have also wondered about boobs & leakage lately... None here to report for me! Enjoying increase in boobage though, had smaller ones before becoming pg, so it's a bit of a novelty .
Lazy weekend over here! Went and did some swimming yesterday which was lovely. Have not fit in much exercise lately but trying to go for walks and swim more often. Officially in 3rd trimester now, can't believe it. Time has really flown!
Have. A lovely Sunday ladies
Hello lovely ladies just back from my 12week scan, all looking lovely!
Baby was perfectly positioned, bang on for measurements, DH pleased as anything that he could see it stretching and wiggling around. Very happy after the mmc last year!
Excellent news, blondies :-)
Are you allowing excitement now?
Think I'm still in shock! Still doesn't seem real, only people I've told in rl is my sister, best friend and 2 people at work, thinking at the mo that we will wait a couple of days (in case of high risk test results) then tell DD's and let them tell everyobe else (me copping out much!)
Hi ladies, I'm afraid I'm going to have to leave you all - been for 12 week scan and have had a MMC - baby stopped growing at 8 weeks just after we had a scan and saw the heartbeat
I'm so sorry Rockchick I've been posting on the threads all happy and you have had such bad news I had a mmc and erpc following 12 wk scan last June, so if there's any advice or anything I can do let me know xx
Rockchick that's terribly sad Hope you get back on the JSing wagon when you and your OH feel able too and you get another BFP in due course xx
Don't worry Blondies I'm made up for you that your scan went well! I'm trying to be quite philosophical about it all - I've had a normal pregnancy and healthy baby previously so there is obviously a reason why this hasn't worked out and I have to believe it is for the best.
Oh no, Rockchick, I'm so sorry.
It sounds like you're trying to be philosophical about it.
I really hope we see you back here very soon. <hugs>
I'm so sorry for your loss Rockchick, hope the next few weeks & months of recovery pass peacefully.
I know what you mean about being philosophical about it all, if you need to talk about it, here for you.
I hope to hear good news from you if you feel like JS again. xx
Blondies, so very please for you. I was around way back when you got your first bfp of last year, so very glad. x
LadyFlump, I read somewhere that marching instead of walking normally is better for SPD...I've been doing it (in private!), it does seem to help a little but sleeping on the sofa is helping more.
Pineapple, congrats for third trimester milestone!
Hope you're comfortable Guinea.
<waves> at everyone else.
Rockchick I am so sorry for you anx your family!!! Xxx
So sorry to here that Rockchick. All the very best for a speedy recovery and a happy future.
Threeblondies congratulations so very pleased for you x
3blondies congrats, good news!
So sorry rockchick, but think you are definately approaching it the best way, good luck for the future.
Lady Im glad to say Iv never experienced SPD but have heard nasty stories, how is it diagnosed? and does it always remain for the rest of that pregnancy?
I have started on the evening primrose oil, plan to get some rasberry leaf tea tomorrow, and am searching for castor oil for if I go overdue, but my pharmacy dont stock it! Also awaiting tens machine to arrive. Have high hopes for a slightly early arrival. 38 weeks on wednesday!
Sorry Rockchick - take it easy on yourself and take as long as you need to mourn. x
Sorry for your loss Rockchick - hope you have a speedy recovery and the next stage isn't too awful.
Great news about your scan Blondies, congrats!
Hope everyone else is ok. It was (is) my birthday today and it's been very busy. Did a few errands this morning, including going to Ikea AGAIN. Think that should be it now though. Then went for a meal at TGI Friday's with DCs, DM and DGM. Then I ended up in Toys R Us of all places . Got a new board Orchard Tots game to play with DCs (we love board games in our house) but managed to escape relatively unscathed.
For my birthday I have pooled my birthday money and bought a new fridge freezer . It's arriving on Thursday and I'm very excited! Our current freezer is so small I can't freeze meals
and always end up making far too much but this one is lovely and big and half price too . I'm planning on spending Friday cooking and freezing meals for when DD arrives.
TMI alert - I've had lots of pant snot
in this pregnancy recently and tonight it was slightly pink tinged. Could this be a show or is it more obvious than that? Not done the whole spontaneous labour thing so not sure what to expect .
On a separate matter, my sleep bras came from Jojomamanbebe today and they are sooo comfortable - I can highly recommend.
Happy birthday, Guinea.
Here's hoping it's a show :-)
Which fridge freezer did you get and where from as I need one too? #ialsoleadaglamorouslife
Rock - really sorry to hear about this, do take care x
Blondies - congrats to you, lovely news!
Happy birthday Guinea! Hope you had a lovely day .
We chose this one MrsBri. We currently have a Beko and have had it for years with no problems. Silver matches our other appliances, plus it's such a good offer!
I'm currently trying to decide if I feel slightly sick because I am hungry and therefore want to eat something, or whether I am just feeling nauseous .
Thank you. We have a Beko washing machine which is fine too.
Did you try to eat anything?
Practising, have you looked into what sideeffects Castor Oil might have on you/baby? I wouldn't advise it.
Enjoy the raspberry leaf, it's...urm...lovely.
We have a Beko, it was the large freezer space out of the combined fridge/freezers but considering how good their products are on catching fire I've gone off them as a brand.
We've just bought a dishwasher from applicancesonline would recommend having a look there, £30-60 cheaper than Currys & they have video reviews on most things.
<small pompoms> Guinea hope it's a show & you had a lovely birthday!
This one is due shortly before DH's birthday & I think secretly he wants to share a birthdate
Practising, my friend who is a nurse and mother of four, took castor oil when due with her third. She says it was brutal. Very fast and very painful. She didn't with number four. Could be coincidence? Raspberry leaf tea sounds a safe bet. Good luck.
Hope it's a show guinea!
I bought our dishwasher on appliances online and whilst they are generally cheaper this fridge freezer from Currys gave us the most capacity for the price. I hadn't heard of this fire thing until my mum mentioned it but I figured Currys wouldn't be selling it if there was a known problem with this model - really hope so anyway.
I had a bit of fruit and finally managed to get back to sleep at 6.30am but I'm exhausted now! So wished DCs still napped but they are 6.5 and 3.5 so maybe a little much to ask at this stage .
I've heard not good things about castor oil too. I didn't mind the raspberry leaf tea but it has never successfully brought on labour for me. Someone suggested evening primrose oil the other day. She has had to be induced with her first 3 children at 42 weeks
this will be me and the 4th, where she used EPO, was the only one where she went into spontaneous labour. Completely anecdotal so not sure its much help.
been away and missed so much!!
rock im very sorry for your loss.
please do not take castor oil. henry pooed in me in distress and inhaled it. due to this he ended up in nicu then scbu and they had to breath for him to start with and he had a ng tube.
sooo henry is 8 weeks old and weighs 8lb15oz following the 2nd percentile steadily. ordered myself a mei tai and have sold my double! probably mad but we will see.
hope all bumps and babies are good!
Glad Henry is doing well. I am so looking forward to using my carriers again - very exciting Something.
After doing a bit more research about EPO it seems it is not recommended as apparently it can weaken the amniotic membranes and cause your waters to break but without initiating contractions - making augmentation more not less likely.
Not that I need much help contracting. Plus I really want to avoid my waters breakng before I'm in labour, otherwise I'll have to traipse to the hospital to get checked and it's a faff. My new mantra is 'I am just going to be patient'. (Please remind me of this in a couple of weeks when I'm tearing my hair out!)
Hey something! Meitai (sp?) sounds fab! Fern is loving the ergo it's a great carrier too. She's nearly 3 months already time is just flying. I haven't been to get her weighed since her 8 week jabs. How often do you get henry weighed. It's more important for him I guess as he was prem and tiny. Sounds like he's doing well though.
because hes on the small percentiles i have to get him weighed every 2 weeks. hes doing well though!
wow i cant believe she is nearly three months only seems like yesterday she was born!
guinea i was going to do epo but never got round to it. I had a curry and that was it for me. Completle myth came true haha!
What does raspberry leaf tea do? When can you take it from?
I would love to have Baby a few days early, but I'm just 33 weeks, so mustn't get impatient.
Hope you had a good birthday Guinea and congrats Blondies :D
Child, you apparently take raspberry leaf tea from 32 weeks. It doesn't bring on labour, but is meant to make labour more efficient / effective when it does happen.
3 months, tired?! How the hell did that happen? Surely I should be giving birth by now in that case! Only 30 weeks on Thursday coming.
I'm hoping for a June 11th baby as that's my late gran's birthday (and my ex's, but we will ignore that one!), which will be 13 days before my real due date and 9 days before my revised, scan-given, due date.
I've been really uncomfortable with how baby has been lying today, so an early arrival would suit me just fine! He does need to bloody turn first though, instead of turning and then changing his mind. :-/
Child. it apparently tones the uterus (which is why you avoid it in early pg, could cause mc) which helps ease labour pains <hollow laugh> and increases milk production.
You can take it from 32wks onwards, between 3-6 cups of the nasty stuff a day.
You're not supposed to take it if you're planning a C-section or have had a short labour previously & apparently it also helps with the postnatal uterus contractions.
Although I guess the best thing for labour is not to be induced early before baby can be bothered with being born
Tired, with respect, I think your poor mother-to-newborn brain is confused, there is no way your DD is almost 3 months old. She was only born a few weeks ago!!
Glad Henry is doing so well something!
We've bought a bushbaby cacoon carrier as apparently it's better for those with upperback problems (me!), so hope it works.
Seriously ladies she is I promise! she was 12 weeks if counting that way on Sunday and next sat is 13th April. She was born on 13th jan! I was the first bfp and quite a bit ahead of everyone. And I'm not too tired as she's sleeps through (nothing I've done just how she's wired and smiley contented little thing) maybe I should name change!?
Child raspberry leaf tea is known to have an effect on the uterine muscle, strengthening it for labour. There is no evidence it starts labour or causes productive contractions (i.e. ones that produce changes in the cervix) BUT there is quite a lot of evidence that suggests it shortens the second phase of labour - I suppose its like weight training for the uterus! Given the amount of contractions I've been having I don't think I'll bother this time . As far as I know it can be taken from 34 weeks but many prefer 36 weeks 'just in case'.
Wow, can't believe Fern is 12 weeks already, time really does fly
except when you're waiting to have a baby.
Sorry started writing that message ages ago and cross posted with everybody it seems .
Must catch up with everyone on here soon but next job is to get DS to bed
Shocked here too that Fern is 3 months already!!
I reached 24 weeks today, which feels quite positive, although I am still poorly. Hoping for a mid as opposed to end of July baby, purely as that will signal the end of this horrid hyperemesis. Both DCs were earlier than due dates, so we will see.
Sending you lots of sympathy rockchick, and hope you are coping ok?
Oh rock that's awful news, I'm so sorry . Hope you're being looked after x
<waves> to everyone else, bit manic busy atm so will catch up with everyone's news properly later. At Fern being 3 months, that's unbelievable!!
Talking of unbelievable - I'm 18 weeks tomorrow...how did that happen?!
Today i do not rate 2 under 2. Waiting for indian takeaway am on antibiotics so cant even have much needed wine
Sorry to read your sad news Rock and hope you are taking care of yourself.
to Fern being 12 weeks old and Henry being 8 weeks old. Evan is 4 weeks old tomorrow (I would be 38 weeks today). He is also a chilled baby, so far, and is beginning to spend a bit more time awake each day - but basically he sleeps unless he is hungry. We registered him yesterday so he is 'real' little person now - just need to fill in the form to apply for his CB next.
Also, on a slightly related theme, the registrar said we would have to reregister (all DCs) if we got married. Has this always been the case - she said it would be to change my surname (DCs have DP's surname) but I was just wondering whether this is a fairly recent thing. I have no issue with this but surely my name NOW is the one that should be on their birth certificates. Also, would we need to reregister them if I chose NOT to change my name, IF we got married? (This is just idle wondering but just wondered if anyone knew?)
Dysgu, I was told the same about reregistering ds1 as he bas born before we got married. The registrar said he is legally am illegitimate child! that was the term she used! So one day I guess we need to do that so all the dc are the same.
Oh and glad Evan is doing well he looks really cute x
Wow babies grow fast! i remember 3 months with DD, it was like a huge milestone, you start to feel more normal again (I found).
something sorry to hear about henry, and lack of wine.
Dont think I will be trying castor oil. My consultant wont be allowing me to go far over 40 wks as it is. Had final scan today, which shows baby has suddenly ballooned, so they will want to induce me again if I actually reach my due date! There are no signs of baby making an early appearance tho, but Il continue with rasberry leaf tea and epo anyway. Really excited to have such a definite end (2 weeks tops) in sight, but so scared about another induction!
<can't think of anything to say about night feeds>
<pops out again>
Thanks guys, I think I'll need to get some raspberry leaf tea then. What's epo?
I have a massage today - woop woop.
Wing...tiring? That's something to say!
Child, EPO is evening primrose oil. Hope you enjoy the massage. :-)
Baby B has gone from kicky to wriggly. Not sure if because he's turned round or because of less room. Really weird now have little baby outline on my belly. He lies as far forwards as possible. Still shoving me lots. I really am in his way!
Interesting re re-registering. Not heard of that before.
quick hello to all...
Isn't it wierd how now I'm on maternity leave I thought I'd be on here loads - but it turns out mumsnet was my guilty coffee/lunch break secret while at work and now I'm not there I haven't been quite as regular at reading and updating.
Have done a big shop this week and got lots of lovely baby goodies - a mattress for the cot, plus various nappies, creams and maternity pads.
Other big news (not!) as of yesterday I have officially lost my nice 'inny' belly button :-( currently flat but suspect as I'm only 31 weeks its going to become an 'outy' before the end.
Also here's what I've been working on and have finished for babystuck!
stuck that looks lovely - gorgeous colours and love the hat too!
Tired yes apparently it is a legal requirement to reregister after marriage - TBH I have no problem with my children being illegitimate, after all thry were born 'out of wedlock' - although I am no fussed about marriage/religion. By reregistering, does that make them legitimate?
Tomorrow we are off to the mainland just for one night. We are staying in a Holiday Inn so I am hoping they don't have a problem with there being 5 people in the room. Can't see why they should although website does say maximum of 4 per room but Evan won't need a bed or breakfast.
STUCK! Loving your work. It's absolutely gorgeous. Lucky baby stuck x
Enjoy your massage Child!
Stuck - beautiful blanket and hat! So lovely ! I restarted a blanket I'm knitting last weekend and you've totally inspired me to keep at it! Mine was started way before getting pregnant but it is neutral coloured so could use it as tummy time mat I sorts maybe?
MrsBri - ooh same here with wriggling baby. My bump is harder lately and must be baby's back? Tends to move a bit but bump has increased in size lately! If I'm daring enough, may post a bump pic on FB group this weekend .
Sooo glad it's Friday and almost the weekend here. Been a tiring week for me, not sure why I'm tired but must be the 3rd trimester tiredness setting in?
Mind has been on labour lately. Been reading and trying to prepare myself! Classes start next month and looking forward to them because DH will get an opportunity to be more involved. I figure there is only so much I can tell him from my reading, a class would be so much more informative for him!
Quick question! Lady at work asked me if I had bottles and steriliser bought. I don't! I plan to BF so have not even thought about it!! Do I need them or would it be ok to get them if required (for expressing etc given BF works out for me) after baby is born?
Have a wonderful Friday ladies!
Ahh the joys of third trimester tiredness Pineapple - just sort of creeps up on you I find. Hope you manage to have a restful weekend. Re. bottles: With DD I knew I wanted to BF but I bought bottles and steriliser during pregnancy and I wish I had saved my money ... DD wouldn't even entertain a bottle! To say I exclusively BF her I spent a fortune on different bottles/teats etc . I wish I had waited until I wanted to introduce one before buying a whole set and a steriliser - I would probably have bought just one bottle to see if she liked it and saved myself a fair bit of money. Of course you may have an easily fed baby like DS who didn't care where his milk came from .
I also think that in the early days when you're tired and hormonal post-birth and if BFing is trickier than you imagined having the bottles there can act as a bit of a crutch (just my opinion though). I think getting baby to take EBM (or FF if you decide that's what you want) from a bottle can be really handy but IMO its the sort of thing you can decide and buy when you need them rather than beforehand. That being said I have bought this breastpump this time because it is half price and the bottle is self-sterilising (in the microwave) which means I won't have to buy a seperate steriliser. I have bought this for the pump though and if miniGuinea decides to take the bottle then that will be a bonus.
I am still in bed - DH has taken DCs to the childminders for me as I am absolutely exhausted. Still getting episodes of strong contractions. The massage therapist I saw the other day (who is also a doula) thinks I may be having a long pre-labour as a way of getting baby into a good position - apparently long phases like these are common with OP presentation babies, which miniGuinea is, or certainly has been until now. The abdominal massage was wonderful by the way.
I've done a MAMMOTH online shop which should be arriving in an hour or so. I plan to spend the day chopping, cooking and freezing in preparation for baby's
eventual arrival. Plus I get to use my new freezer which I am extremely excited about .
For those having third/last babies (just Tired and Dysgu?) how did you feel towards the end of your pregnancies? I'm feeling a bit
a lot mixed. Most of me desperately wants miniGuinea here to meet her, but part of me wants to keep her as a baby for as long as possible and this is really the last time I'm going to be pregnant. Ending that feels bittersweet somehow. I know that once she comes out of my belly she's going to start growing so fast and before I know it she'll be big - which is of course the joy of watching them grow up. I suppose though I feel a bit sad that this is the end of an 'era' - my time in life as a birthing woman/mother.
I was wondering if this is why my body isnt letting go and labouring, because emotionally I'm not quite ready to let go yet ? Does that sound weird and hippyish?! If that is the reason then I'm really not sure what to do about it!
GUINEA, I know exactly what you mean. Even in the last weeks of pregnancy I tried to enjoy it and treasure the feeling of carrying a child as the plan is that fern is our last. And now she's here I'm trying not to rush her though the stages but to enjoy the time whilst she is so small. I think it's been easy to enjoy her because the boys are at school so I can have some proper 1:1 time with my baby. I spend lots of time just cuddling her and ignoring the housework . I want the time to go slowly...
Thanks for the advice on bottles etc Guinea! So helpful to hear people's experiences. You sound so very organised with food prep etc!! I can only hope I can be so organised myself when the time comes.
Guinea, we're probably on our last baby here (can't afford to move for the next 3/4 years, DH turning 40 soon & doesn't want to be an old dad) & if I think about it, I cry...I love being a mum, I love having babies (shit at being pregnant!) & it feels unfair that we've had to make a sensible decision whereas other people I know just pop babies out with ease/without thinking about providing for their futures. <stamps feet>
Pineapple, I'd pick up one or two bottles and a cheapy sterlisier this tommee tippee can fit Dr.Browns/Philips Advent in too with ease.
You never know if you'll get mastitis or be on anti-b's in the first few weeks!
Other thing to bear in mind is the formula shortage atm, we're planning on ff & if by the end of next month supply is not back to normal we'll be adding a carton on to ea