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Shagged Out Viroids 7th Thread! From conception to birth...living proof that JSing really does work!

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MrsBri Mon 04-Mar-13 21:03:01

Hello and welcome to another shiny fred for Just Shagging graduates!

The last fred was nice and busy so fingers crossed we get lots more members

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The last thread saw a few births, including one set of twins, and this one promises to be fruitful also with a number of us nearing the end of the 9 month wait!

Our stats thread is here, so if you find us, please add your stats too.

There is also a Just Mumming thread for grads of the grads thread

And if you want to find out what Just Shagging is about or catch up with the undergrads go say hello to the Just Shaggers here, now on the 14th thread.

WingDefence Mon 04-Mar-13 21:46:00

Brilliant. At least this one won't take half as long to load as the nearly-full other one! grin

Dysgu Mon 04-Mar-13 21:49:19

Lovely new fred, MrsBri

I had my 32 week MW appointment today (but due to when she is at my local clinic, I am almost 33 weeks). All okay so we continue to wait and see what happens.

We had quite a chat about the possibility of me BFing this time... have never managed it before although did express until the due dates so DDs did get the benefits of BFing in the early days as it was all syringed into them.

One of the MW assistants is giving a 'parentcraft' session on BFing in about 10 days so I am going along and we are going to make a plan so that I have a greater chance of things working out this time - MW reckons we can plan for it to work even if DC3 ends up the same as the others and checks into NICU for a few weeks. So I am feeling rather excited about the whole idea - but know it will be fine if I have to move on to FF as on both previous times when my milk failed to come in...

Rockchick1984 Mon 04-Mar-13 22:50:05

Lovely shiney new Fred!!!

MrsBri Liverpool sling library is fab! If weekends are better and you are willing to travel a bit then get in touch with Kangarinos near Wigan - Rachael will generally sort a Saturday when she can be there and you can have a play with some slings. I got one of mine there and she's lovely! I'm a slingaholic - already bought 2 with a view to newborn snuggles despite me ready having a few 5 smile

Pineapple80 Tue 05-Mar-13 01:31:37

Hi all, just parking my butt on the new thread smile. Hope everyone is well.

MrsBri Tue 05-Mar-13 07:38:23

Ooh, good tip, thank you Rock :-) I'll tell DH and see what his preferred option is.

Hi Pineapple. Hope you're good.

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 05-Mar-13 08:29:38

<waves> Just marking place.

Dysgu Tue 05-Mar-13 10:07:25

Ooh sling talk - I have just found a sling library on the island that I have never heard about before. And I am thinking about buying a Joe and Joy wrap just because they are such a bargain price and it would be useful to have another wrap (with my other two) before I decide what else I am going to buy.

WingDefence Tue 05-Mar-13 10:33:03

I've just found a sling library near me (a couple actually) using this website

I have got a couple of carriers kicking around somewhere that I must dig out and probably wash that didn't work last time but I'll try them again. If I don't use them this time I am happy to pass on to whoever wants them but that might be in a few months' time? smile

Kittenkatzen Tue 05-Mar-13 12:29:29

Ooh, shiny new fred smile

Just marking place, now off to catch up on the end of the old one.....

Marking place too, and who would like to guess where I am yet again sad

I wish I could stop being sick!

Kittenkatzen Tue 05-Mar-13 13:58:16

Oh no waves you poor bugger sadsad I really hope it gets gone soon, it must be utterly miserable. How are your DCs coping? Hope you're being looked after and not too stressed about other stuff xx

WingDefence Tue 05-Mar-13 14:13:09

I've just seen your pic waves. And the ironic comment by one of your friends

Do they know why it's so bad this time for you? Does it always keep getting worse with each pregnancy? I daren't ask when the last time was you had a normal meal sad

Hooya Tue 05-Mar-13 14:25:55

Hello to all and shiny new fred!

So sorry waves, just awful, keep hoping you get through this soon sad

Had 12 week scan today, all brilliant, risk of Down's tiny, kicking about like crazy and we have an amazing video of it! grin

New fred! Suppose i should go to just mumming but it feels weird. This feels like home

Kittenkatzen Tue 05-Mar-13 16:02:25

something I think we should all stay here until all our babies have arrived and then decamp en masse! I think when is due early October no? So not long to wait haha

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Tue 05-Mar-13 16:43:48

Wow on a new thread. I'm on my phone (in the bath) so haven't managed to catchup with everything yet. I'll read the end of the last thread on my computer later.

Been ill recently and had to have some time off work and lots of early nights. Thankfully I seem to be better now. Just standard pregnancy discomforts - hence why I am in the bath in the middle if the afternoon! I am working at home but sitting is agony for my rib pain so had to revamp to the bath and have now got lots of very wet paperwork, oops!

Hope everyone is well.

I'm coming up to 33 weeks and its starting to feel like the home strait. Got the home birth support group on Sunday and going to book my birthing pool. Will hopefully have it from 37 weeks so should be able to do the rest of my PhD work in there!

Teaching finishes for me next week - just 3 more days to go, yippee!

Right, must drag myself out of the bath to go and collect the children. Will catch up and respond to all the gossip later smile

tiredteddy Tue 05-Mar-13 16:44:01

Kitten yes please let's stay here and then decamp together. It's very quiet over on just mumming and I don't feel like I know any of the few that do post.

Something I'm still here and Fern is 7 weeks already I'm only going if you do too x

Im a fan of the going on mass idea!

Henry is three weeks old today and has gained 2lbs from birth!! Making him a whopping 7lbs 4oz wink

tiredteddy Tue 05-Mar-13 17:15:19

Something that's brilliant! Well done you and Henry smile

Hooya glad the scan went well and baby performed for you grin

Persuasion Tue 05-Mar-13 18:11:33

Hi all! I finally found you, having lost track for a while.

I'm 23 weeks now, have a follow up scan tomorrow, but baby is kicking away in there so I'm trying to to worry too much.

waves sorry you're back in hospital. How many weeks are you now? I hope it settles down for you soon, 'normal' morning sickness was bad enough, let alone what you're going through.

something I'm glad you're home with baby, sounds like you had a really scary time of things.

<Waves wildly at everyone else>

Hello everyone smile glad to hear positive stories!

I am spending tonight in hospital, have had 2 litres of fluids already and another 2 overnight, then 2 more in the morning before home at lunchtime. Then I'll be back here each morning for IV fluids and IV anti emetics. At least I'll get home each night, even if it does mean being at hospital every day, and I'll avoid the horrible spiralling into dehydration.

I'm 19 weeks pregnant, and looking forward to the 20 week scan next week. No idea when this is going to ease, I seem to be one of the very unlucky few who get Hyperemesis in the first place, and then it not respond too well to medication. I'm nearly 10% of body weight down now from my booking in appt, so once the dehydration is under control the consultant is going to plan how to start getting calories into me.

I did get a very quick peek at the baby today, consultant had a quick check and all is well. Still hoping to turn a corner soon with respect to the Hyperemesis, at this rate I won't remember how to get into the office at work let alone how to do my job!

tiredteddy Tue 05-Mar-13 20:09:52

Waves, that sounds like a much much better plan for you care. Nice to perk at baby too. Almost half way now. I'm still crossing my fingers that it magically gets better for you x

ChildOfThe1980s Tue 05-Mar-13 20:21:42

Hope you get all better very soon waves thanks

Great news [Hooya] smile

I am 28 weeks now. Eek, this is going quickly. I saw my MW today and she complimented me on my lovely stretch-mark free bump :D

WingDefence Tue 05-Mar-13 22:15:25

I like the plan above about us all moving over once our miniJSers arrive, or perhaps we can go in stages so we don't put off any current JSers who might want to come onto the fred -there are a few who may only be lurking anyway at the moment... Delurk, you lurkers!!! grin

Child, I also have no stretch marks, second time I've managed to avoid them. I think it's genetic as my DM didn't have them with me and my brother either and I've only remembered to rub oil into my bump about once a week so it's not been that! I see the lines of purple stretch marks the ladies have on ONEM and I am shocked - I'm not sure how I'd cope with those so sorry for those of you who do suffer from them sad

WingDefence Tue 05-Mar-13 22:17:17

And waves, I'm so glad finally seem to be getting some proper bloody care. If this ends up working I'd complain and ask why on earth they didn't do this weeks ago, especially considering the effects it has on your children etc etc angry

Rockchick1984 Wed 06-Mar-13 08:29:29

Delurking as per Wing's instructions smile just to say I've got a scan tomorrow (8 weeks) so if all goes well and there's a heartbeat I'm telling people and actually accepting I'm pregnant but very nervous about it all!

How are you feeling now waves?

WingDefence Wed 06-Mar-13 09:29:53

Ooh good luck for tomorrow rockchick! Don't forget to update us too smile

WingDefence Wed 06-Mar-13 09:30:54

And good luck today Persuasion, well done on your scan Hooya and Guinea I am dense - I didn't realise how soon you are due behind me!

How exciting grin

tiredteddy Wed 06-Mar-13 12:54:47

Good luck Persuasion and Rockchick with your scans today.

News at the teddy house is that Fern is smiling, too cute! smilegrin

Dysgu Wed 06-Mar-13 22:47:05

Waves how awful - fingers crossed that you wake up soon and are feeling better. Must be awful to be nearly half way through and still feeling so bad all the time. At least you get to go home but being at the hospital each day must still be a nuisance.

Something love the picture of your two boys together on FB! Henry still looks tiny - but o course, they don't feel tiny when they are coming out!

Rockchick good luck for the scan tomorrow. More crossed fingers.

Child and wing I too have no stretch marks - from this PG or previous two. People are telling me I look bigger this time (although MW says I am not and am pretty much the same size as I was at this stage last time). I have not used oil at all this time - DP used it a lot during my last to PGs. All it has done this time is sit on the window sill and i have thought about using it - luckily it is the thought that counts. Sorry to those who do have stretch marks - I am not sure there is anything you can really do about them if you are genetically predisposed to getting them.

Dysgu Wed 06-Mar-13 22:57:09

Sorry tired how lovely that Fern is smiling - what a great milestone!

I have seen 3 little babies today - two of them were only born on Friday (and were at the children's centre) and the other one was somewhere out and about (baby brain means I cannot recall whose it was) but she was a couple of months old and smiling hugely smile

Seeing the babies kind of brings it home that this is all real...

I am 33 weeks today so a week past arrival time of DD1 but still 10 days away from DD2. I am constantly waiting for waters to break but I know it might not happen for a few weeks yet. I am so much more anxious about this DC than either of the others so just want it to arrive - but not too soon IYKWIM. Generally I am very chilled and laid back but I am, once again, finding this end of the PG hard - just like the early days.

This evening I have written an outline of a birth plan using the NHS choices form to have an idea of what to include - never done one before. I went to a relaxation and breathing class today too. Am seeing lactation MW next week to organise plan to breastfeed. Finally had my whooping cough jab which was postponed yesterday as computers went down in the surgery (all fine so far). Washed and dried all baby clothes. Bedding, muslins etc drying now (but should I iron.... not even sure where the iron is? blush

And have written a (final) shopping list of stuff to buy tomorrow before I pack my hospital bag(s):

- witch hazel (to put on maternity pads to ease post natal peeing)
- raspberry leaf capsules (to prepare cervix - but need to check these...)
- fenugreek capsules (to aid milk flow - plan is to start pumping at 36b weeks if baby has not arrived to build supply)
- fennel tea (to aid milk flow)
- vaseline (to put on baby bum to make early nappies easy to change!)

Then I think I am ready...

Dysgu Wed 06-Mar-13 22:59:58

- lidded nappy bucket and tea tree oil (to store dirty nappies before laundry)

tiredteddy Wed 06-Mar-13 23:04:29

Dysgu that planning is fab! Maybe arnica to take after the birth? I found it really helped. I hope baby stays in for you for a few more weeks. Three is lovely.

Dysgu Wed 06-Mar-13 23:55:39

- arnica (added to list to help with bruising) - although I may call the clinic as we have a doctor who will write a prescription for a homeopathic kit (so you get about £200 of stuff free - yes, will do that in the morning and see what they say!)

Pineapple80 Thu 07-Mar-13 01:34:19

Hello all, good luck with those having scans, looking forest to hearing how it all went.

Pineapple80 Thu 07-Mar-13 01:43:24

Oops pressed post too fast!

Wanted to ask (probably already discussed, sorry!) when you've started buying the bigger baby stuff, like buggy, nursery furniture, cot etc? Realise now that some of it may take time to order into stores... I'm 24+4 today and I guess it's almost time to start shopping? We really wanted to start once DH starts working but as u know we have done the big move from UK back to Oz recently and still establishing ourselves at new home and with work. I am working but DH hasn't found a job yet. This is really stressing him out. I'm sure it will happen soon but the stress of it all is evident on him poor thing sad. So much pressure on the guys, which is tough. Luckily I am working till may and hoping some good luck comes our way soon. envy

Anyway back to my original q about when to start buying stuff...any advice would be great! This is our 1st baby so we have nothing at the moment. Very exciting there will be more babies born here in the next few weeks! smile

Rockchick1984 Thu 07-Mar-13 07:42:17

Pineapple it depends where you're getting things from really as to when you should buy them. Some prams have a waiting list, so worth choosing ASAP so that if you need to wait you will still get the one you want in time; things like cot and furniture generally not so long. Places like mothercare do a payment plan so you can pay them off gradually but know you're stuff is ordered and waiting for you. Oh, an if it's a pram that you don't have to wait for, get it as late as possible as the warranty is valid from when you buy it not when you start using it so if anything goes wrong it'll be covered by the guarantee (more common than you'd think).

Kittenkatzen Thu 07-Mar-13 07:52:41

Good luck for the scan today rock!

pineapple we've bought quite a bit already in the sales, including the pram. The warranty point that rock just made didn't even cross my mind though and it's a good point confused

WingDefence Thu 07-Mar-13 09:48:25

Dysgu, keep going and see if you can beat DD2's arrival time - your pregnancies have got longer each time so this one may arrive at 35wks-ish?!

Not heard of a lactation MW - the bfing session I went to as part of the ANCs was next to useless really and I'm not sure if there's a bfing cafe or drop-in groups around here. I'll see how it goes anyway.

I've still not packed my hospital bag, which I know I need to do even if I'm planning a home birth. You are v lucky to get all that stuff on prescription! I've got some of that on my shopping list for when I go off on ML but will add a big tub of Vaseline (already have the Sudocreme) and witch hazel. (I'd put tee tree oil down for cuts/stitches.)

Pineapple - wow 24 weeks already and I remember when you were trying to get your dating and nuchal scans booked around the time you moved! How brilliant grin

I would definitely start try to getting some of those bits. We tried to order new furniture for DS (wardrobe and chest of drawers) as MiniWing will be getting his stuff even though it's got blue fronts and Argos is out of stock which is a pain. Although the baby won't necessarily move into their nursery straight away, you will need somewhere for their clothes etc. MiniWing's are all currently in plastic bags and I want to put them away properly!

I hope your DH finds a job soon - is it an industry where there are lots of opportunities or are they few and far between? I read that Oz was in an economic boom at the moment (lucky you) so it shouldn't take too long?

WingDefence Thu 07-Mar-13 09:51:45

And I hope notsoold's scan goes well today too. I'm not sure if she knows where this thread is but hopefully she'll find us and will give us good news brew

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 10:48:23

Wing....yes I knew but was lurking as not to post all the time...smile

Just back from the scan. Pg dated at 6 weeks and fetal pole with heartbeat present ...I am so relieved! Thank you so much for hand holding and patience....

Posting from hospital so I can not name check. Thank you all again!!!

So so pleased notso

I had a bit of a bleed yesterday evening so off to gp later, have also spoken to midwife who said she will get me a scan if I don't get anywhere with gp, bloody worrying business this having a baby lark!

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 11:02:25

Blondies....take care hun. I hope gp sort a scan asap for your peace of mind!!! Xxx

So pleased to hear that notso.

I'm on my first day of day patient care, all ok so far, just have to sit here for 3 hours whilst the fluids go through. Only a week til my scan now, can't wait for that.

WingDefence Thu 07-Mar-13 11:07:16

Oh brilliant notso! Hopew you don't think I was hassling you grin

blondies I hope you do get a scan soon to put your mind at rest.

And waves - how are you feeling? Are you keeping anything down yet and do you think this new care plan is helping? biscuit

StuckOnARollercoaster Thu 07-Mar-13 11:16:17

Hello all - like it when there's a new Fred and for once I have a bit longer to write.

notsoold that is fantastic news - am so happy to hear and that there was a heartbeat - hope its more plain sailing over the coming weeks than the first few weeks you've had.
wing I liked your countdown on the old one!!!
waves hope you start to feel better soon
pineapple good luck for the job hunt
dysgu fingers crossed your little one stays put a bit longer
something and teddy its nice you stay here - pics of your babies on FB are adorable!
rockchick let us know how the scan goes - its very exciting
I know I haven't namechecked all - but its lovely to read everyones news...

Well I'm now at 26 (nearly 27 weeks) so almost into 3rd trimester - still can't quite believe its happening!
We bought our pram and car seat a couple of weeks back - its an end of line one with a good price so I didn't want to run the risk of them all selling out. We almost had a wobble on the colours - I wanted the pram in red but the carrycot in black and fortunately we managed to get the last black carrycot! All is now delivered and as I am working from home I might have a bit of a play when I finish the jobs I've set myself for today (as long as I don't stay on MN too long!).
Our only other biggish purchase is probably going to be a cot - and I keep watching gumtree and ebay now to see if I can get a bargain!

Work has been mental lately - lots of travel but I had some great news yesterday. I work as a consultant but had been hoping to get into the training arm of a company I work with because I can do that just a few days a week or a month, whereas the consultancy work is always 5 days a week full-time. I was assessed yesterday by the head of the department and I will now be on their books for when I want to return to work grin It means I can do a bit of work and not lose touch with my industry while the baby is young/toddler, which should make it easier when I am ready (if I am ever ready!) to go back to consultancy work.

Last bit of news - midwife appointment today and bump measured for the first time. I'm spot on for size - was a bit worried that I was too big, but apparently not. Also nice to hear the heartbeat and confirm that little one seems to be happy in there...

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 11:19:09

Waves....I second wing questions ...and totally fx for this to work so you don't have to stay as in- patient xxx

Wing...ohhh honey.. I am grateful for your support!!! If you name mini wing after me than it would be a different story!!! grin

ChildOfThe1980s Thu 07-Mar-13 11:44:29

Great news notso smile You must be so happy.

Stuck You're just behind me. I am 28 + 2 today. Good news about your job.

Blondies how far along are you? Hope everything is ok.

Feel better soon Waves - you must be so fed up with it by now.

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 07-Mar-13 12:24:15

Bit late but congrats Hooya! Hope the scan was a nice experience & you didn't miss dildocam.

notso, big CONGRATULATIONS (only gave you a small one last week), so glad everything is looking good.

Blondies, will be keeping everything crossed for you.

Good luck today Rock.

waves, hope it all goes well for you as an outpatient, and hope you're close the end of it all. You're doing so well, you sound so much stronger this week. x

We're sticking with travel cots, DS was attempting to throw himself out of his 'normal' cot from about 7 months so he's been in the travel cot since then!
Good news about work & the bargain stuck!

<waves> at everyone else.

Rockchick1984 Thu 07-Mar-13 13:00:41

Hi all, just a quick update - scan was fine, bubba is measuring perfect for dates (nearly 8 weeks) and heartbeat is strong! Got a copy of the scan pic, and although tiny its definitely baby shaped which wasn't the case with DS's early scan at 7 weeks (looked like a baked bean smile ) so I'm over the moon! Dr google says risk of miscarriage is only 1% now having seen heartbeat at this stage so we've decided to tell friends and family, and announce to the world Facebook at 12 weeks.

Yay Notso glad your scan went well too!!

tiredteddy Thu 07-Mar-13 13:40:57

Ooh lots of happy scan news! So pleased for you Notso and Rockchicksmile

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 17:22:43

Rock....congratulations!!! A good dayfor both of us!!!

Persuasion Thu 07-Mar-13 17:47:53

Congratulations on good scans rock and notsoold. It's so reassuring to see a heartbeat at that early stage.

tired I can't believe she's smiling already, time is really going by quickly.

waves I'm glad there's a proper plan in place, hopefully this will work better for you.

pineapple I'm 23 weeks, and we bought our pram last week, mainly because we had decided which one we wanted and then watched for a sale. When the sale appeared we pounced! We also have some clothes bought by MIL. We're planning on leaving other big items closer to the time, to spread things out a bit.

My growth scan was ok yesterday morning, baby has grown but is still on the small side. And my dopplers were normal one side, high the other side and borderline when she averaged it out so I have another scan at 28 weeks to check growth. No one seems to know what it means, if anything, and I'm feeling quite relaxed now I know she's grown about the right amount over the last 2 weeks. Sometimes I think we investigate too much, if I hadn't had the screening bloods I wouldn't have known, and would just have had a normal scan with nothing to worry about. Can't say I mind the extra chances to see baby though!

MrsBri Thu 07-Mar-13 17:59:59

Congratulations Rock and Notso. Fantastic news :-)

And that's a relief, Persuasion...as long as growth is at the right rate, that's got to be a good sign, I'd have thought?

tiredteddy Thu 07-Mar-13 18:03:47

Persuasion, good that she's growing and as long as that keeps happening I'd assume all is ok. Yes enjoy every chance to see her. Scans are lovely in that respect.

Hi everyone. Hope you are all well. Any exciting plans for mothers day those of you with dc already?

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 18:18:54

Persuasion...she is growing at her own rate ...
That is very good smile

Tired....my mum is spending the day with us. My dh adores her ( although they don't speak the same language)...
My dd will not come this mother's day as they will spend at her IL.
Dd is planning my surprise (not ) cake and a new mug( I don't officially know any of this...smile)

tiredteddy Thu 07-Mar-13 18:31:52

Notso how nice that your DH likes your mum so much! I also laughed when ds2 told me he's made a secret card at school!!! wink

Pineapple80 Fri 08-Mar-13 02:06:34

Such great news Notso & Rock!! smile

Thanks for your replies re: buying baby's things. Guess it's good to get an idea what everyone is doing. My SIL did one big shop at 32 wks and got everything within 5-6 wks. We do have Mothercare here and similar stores which do the payment plans etc so we'll probably do a one stop shop when the time comes!

Wing - we are hoping something comes up soon for him. It is normally a thriving industry but hit a slump here in the past 6 months. I think it is a matter of right place, right time, right job...

Stuck - that's great you got your pram on sale! One thing ticked off the list!

Have made a list of things to buy, plus made wish lists on m&s and John Lewis websites. So much cheaper than Oz!

Pineapple80 Fri 08-Mar-13 02:12:37

Persuasion, that is great to hear about bub's growth. I hope all continues to go well for you both. I also had doppler flows checked at 20 wks due to low Papp-A protein levels and will be having growth scan at 32 wks again.

Kittenkatzen Fri 08-Mar-13 08:02:28

Will post properly later but just wanted to say hurrah for notso and rock! gringrin

WingDefence Fri 08-Mar-13 09:40:29

I made the mistake of forgetting the day of Mother's Day but remembering the date so when DH asked me early last week (considering I was extremely tired and wrung out after my travelling and the funeral etc) whether he could go to the footy 'next Sunday' I foolishly said yes! So after doing the refreshments at church in the morning (i.e. I'm doing all the baking for that), he's going off to Old Trafford and I'm taking DS to my DPs with another cake I plan to bake in hand.

Saturday though we are going to one of our favourite farm restaurant/shops near Clitheroe so that will be nice and actually baking with DS will be a lovely activity too.

I've had a soap and two homemade cards from DS already (he always wants to give me my presents NOW) and I'm happy not to get anything more really smile

Right, teleconference in 20 mins and I've not finished my document for it! shock Argh best go!

Hooya Fri 08-Mar-13 12:57:00

Popping in to say hurrah for Rock and notso - brought a big grin to my face! And persuasion sounds reassuring re the recent growth, and lovely to get more of a look at her!

Not been on much as now I'm past 12 weeks it feels like we've been either at work or on Skype all the time! So so much fun telling friends our news grin. The clinic give us a DVD which they add the video of the scan to each time - it's really difficult not to watch it every day blush

waves hope the new treatment plan is working better!

Wing I always 'wing' it before meetings - the best way to prepare grin

Pineapple are you going to buy some UK stuff and have it shipped? We are thinking of doing similar as Japan can be soooo expensive!

GBT ha ha re dildocam! We were showing a mate (whose wife had the same doctor for her pregnancy) the scan video and he said "that's not a dildocam image is it?" wink I felt much more like a proper pregnant person getting a belly scan!

Guinea hope you are feeling better

Dysgu I am going to copy and paste your lists then lose them somewhere and have to come back here searching thanks!

tired yay for smiles

Child I envy you as I fear the stretchmarks - I have a few very pale ones just from quick weight gains in the past, but no more than a stone, so I dread to think what this will do to my belly...

Hi to everyone else I missed - happy Friday!

I've had a happy scan too grin Bang on for dates (well whats a day out at such tiny measurements!) Good position at the top of uterus, little heart thumping away and beginnings of legs and arms, 7 + 4 so hopefully time will go quicker till the 12 week mark, phew, looking forward to a good nights sleep xx

ChildOfThe1980s Fri 08-Mar-13 14:36:38

Great news Blondies smile

ChildOfThe1980s Fri 08-Mar-13 14:52:13

My MW has advised that I find out more about labour, so that I have less anxiety and am less likely to panic this time (that's why I had an epidural with my DS- just freaked out from the fear of more pain.)

I was reading a pregnancy book today. I started reading about episiotomies (I had one with DS) and caesareans. I had to stop reading as started feeling faint. sad How am I supposed to research all this when my brain can't cope with it? Oh dear. BTW, I am not normally a queasy person at all, and quite happily watch OBEM and medical programs.

WingDefence Fri 08-Mar-13 15:15:29

Hurrah blondies!

Hooya - are you on our fb page? I'd love you to upload a bit of your scan video grin

Child - for birth trauma, I think some (community?) MWs run sessions or are happy to meet to go through past births. Can you contact whoever it is who runs ante natal classes in your area? Also I think doulas provide one-to-one ante natal sessions to help go through things without your brain shutting down. Just reading a book really might not help.

Otherwise, have you thought about posting a thread on here to ask people their advice on how they got over birth panic and flashbacks etc? I actually read this thread yesterday about birth trauma and it sounds similar to your fear/anxieties?

To be honest, I have never read in depth about episiotomies or CSs - sometimes it can be worth not knowing too much!?! I had a 2nd degree tear with DS and I've never looked up the differences between 1st/2nd/3rd degrees as I think I would seriously scare myself. There's a difference between being prepared and frightening yourself by going into every little potential problem or outcome?

I wish I could give you a hug! Have a biscuit instead smile

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 08-Mar-13 15:56:51

Blondies, that's fantastic news! Roll on 12wks!

^What Wing said Child.
I'm still a bit iffy about giving birth (felt like a failure going from planned homebirth to all the drugs/monitoring in hospital), but I've found watching OBEM (with DH, incase it gets to me) & reading about other people's experiences (good & bad) has helped....although I think your MW was wrong to advise you just to find out more about labour, given the anxiety you felt last time, is there someone else you can speak to about it for a 2nd opinion?

envy Wing, sounds like a lovely Saturday, hope the weather is decent for you.

Got into my Maternity Jeans for the first time yesterday (still needed a belt, but they didn't fall down), I forgot how comfy they are!
18wks tomorrow & it's hit me that we may, possibly, could, be having another baby. Won't believe it until it happens, but still.. grin

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 08-Mar-13 15:58:55

Oooh, and just cos! Someone linked this poem on another fred, it was on Radio2 other day & it's lovely (have tissues at the ready);

The Last Time

The father, reading to his girl
some little tale they always read
is unaware that this may be
the last one that she’ll ever need;
she’s grown past stories softly read
by daddy sitting on the bed.

The mother with her muddy son,
kicking a football in the park,
cannot sense as they wander home
through chilly, soft-approaching dark;
this was the last time they’d come out
to kick that happy ball about.

How secret, sneaky-soft they come:
those last times when we’ll kiss it better,
hold their hand across the road
or lift them up to post a letter.
They pass unmarked, un-noticed; for
we’re not so needed any more.

So they abandon fairy tales,
and nursery rhymes that mummy sings
and leave behind soft toys – and us -
and put away their childish things;
a loss so small. Our loss the greater,
unmissed, un-mourned, until years later.

WingDefence Fri 08-Mar-13 16:26:26

Oh I saw that poem on the other thread (can't remember which one it was now...) and it is truely lovely but heartbreaking! <sob>

ChildOfThe1980s Fri 08-Mar-13 17:20:38

Thanks Gary and Wing

My MW said that she runs 'about birth' sessions, and has booked me for one in April, although I will need to check this.

Hopefully this will be good and helpful. I can't really afford a doula. It's weird, I've spoken with lots of mums about my birth, and it always helps. But there is something that makes me think I may fall apart as soon as contractions start properly, no matter how positive I feel about it (although a little anxious) now.

Also I need to remember that having an epidural is not failure. Even though I really want to give birth in the lovely birthing centre that doesn't look like a hospital if at all possible.

notsoold Fri 08-Mar-13 18:28:48

Blondies.....excellent news!!!! Xxx

Rockchick1984 Fri 08-Mar-13 18:48:18

Brilliant news Blondie!!

Child have you looked into natal hypnotherapy? I completely forgot all of the ideas behind it once I was in labour but it was amazing for calming me down in the preceding weeks - I was very nervous about labour!! A very good theory that I read was that your body won't put you through pain which you can't cope with as your pain receptors in your brain would just refuse to accept it! Don't know how true it is, but it certainly helped me despite DS being back to back with no gaps between contractions!

I'm hoping for a home birth this time, I think I'll be calmer in my own home without the stress of hospital!

Hooya Sat 09-Mar-13 01:56:58

Hooray blondies - what a great week for scans!

Child I can only sympathise. I did a lot of research and certainly hypnobirthing seemed to get very good reports, and I can recommend CBT for extreme anxiety (having suffered many years ago) - worth asking your GP about? Like GBT I have found reading about it the best option. My DP watched a full uncensored video of a CS before we decided on it - I didn't, but watched his face while he watched it, which was enough! We both agreed that there will be no peeking round the screen shock

And finally there is no such thing as failure when it comes to giving birth! Ok, I guess keeping your legs shut and refusing to take your pants off wouldn't be brilliant, but you know what I mean... grin

notsoold Sat 09-Mar-13 02:03:37

hooya...congratulations (sorry I am late ) smile

tiredteddy Sat 09-Mar-13 09:30:36

Congratulations Blondies, so very pleased for you smile

MrsBri Sat 09-Mar-13 09:44:54

Fantastic news, Blondies :-)

Wing, are you on your last week of work next week? So envious!

And hope all is well, Ted...come back soon to update us!

Just been catching up. Re scans they are so inaccurate Henry always mesured above the 50th percentile and his head of the chart he was a teeny 5lb 4oz born at 38+0. My 37 week scan estimated him to be 6lb 15oz....

Henry is now 3 weeks and 4 days! Seems to go even quicker on your second! Think he has a touch of reflux so need to book him into the gp.

I'm still getting my scar packed and dressed but DP says the hole isn't to big anymore

WingDefence Sat 09-Mar-13 18:07:52

Wow something that has gone quickly smile

I've been baking today for church as we're doing the refreshments in the morning. So I've made biscuits just like these but heart-shaped for all the mums, then chocolate crispie nests (recipe from netmums because it was the best one I could find online but don't tell anyone! shock) and finally, a cappuccino cake for my mum for Mother's Day tomorrow.

I am bloody knackered now and my back has given up! The 20-30 biscuits alone took me two hours this morning with all the modelling of the flowers and leaves, then we went out for a lovely lunch, came back and then straight into the choc nests and cake. <yawn>

How have all your days gone today?

MrsBri, yes LAST WEEK AT WORK!!! I cannot wait! Got a to do list still left of things I need to finish off but nothing too stressful so as long as I don't procrastinate Monday/Tuesday, it should all be fine smile

Dysgu Sat 09-Mar-13 19:13:53

I have had a pretty quiet day and DP has been great keeping the girls busy so I can lounge around! The baby is either kicking so hard it hurts or else is so low that moving is difficult. Walking is okay for a short time - once I get going - but then the sciatica really sets in and it almost feels like I am walking so slowly that I am going backwards!

OTOH that cappuccino cake looks really good Wing - I might have a go at making it for my mum. We are taking her for lunch tomorrow but I might make it to take over to her on Monday as an extra surprise (and if my numbers are okay I might even agree to a tiny taste too grin )

Something Henry is getting really 'old' now smile and yes, the time goes so quickly with the second one. It is hard to imagine a time when they weren't there! Hope your scar is healing well - how much longer do you think you will have to have it packed for?

I have been reading up on BFing. I ordered this BF book and started reading it today. I am not sure whether it is a bit 'BF is the only way' for me but there does seem to be some useful information in there. I am meeting the lactation MW on Wednesday this week so come up with a plan!

Dysgu Sat 09-Mar-13 19:15:08

Oh and wing I hope your last week at work goes smoothly. I have just finished my first week of ML and even though the two days I have DD2 are exhausting, it is lovely to have the other 3 days to 'nest'

MrsBri Sat 09-Mar-13 19:44:29

Well, my day could have been better as I found out that DH has lost his job. :-/

Apparently it happened on Monday, but today was the first day he felt he could tell me for one reason or another.

Seems the guy he was working for was a knob and hasn't even paid him properly. So we need to get that from him.

We have a few irons in the fire, so will be OK for a bit. Hopefully something will come up soon though.

Your day sounds exhausting, as per, Wing! I'm always put to shame by how much you do!

WingDefence Sat 09-Mar-13 20:24:42

Oh no MrsBri, that's crap news sad Yes you must get the money that's owed to you and work out if your DH's rights have been adhered to as well.

Dysgu, MiniWing has been kicking me recently right in my bladder/ladies bits. I have no idea how she gets down there! She's not engaged yet - well she wasn't at all at my MW appt 10 days ago and I can still walk without that proper waddling you get in late pg, it's just a big bump waddle at the moment. But you'll get some relief soon eg when the baby pops out!

Right, must get something to eat. Hope you all have a lovely Mother's Day or Mother-to-Be's Day tomorrow thanks

tiredteddy Sun 10-Mar-13 22:15:10

Mrs Bri I'm sorry to hear that about your DH job. I really hope it gets sorted out regarding the money owed and that he finds work very soon.

I've had a lovely weekend. On sat DH took the boys to see the new wizard of oz film while I had a wander around H&M (I had my colours done for my birthday in feb so am adjusting my wardrobe!) then we went for tea and cake in godalming a pretty little town near here. Today I had breakfast in bed and homemade cards. DH has made a photo collage of pictures of all the dc little fingers and toes, very cute. We then went to RHS wisley gardens. Very cold but nice. We finished the day watching Mary Poppins.

Practisingparent Sun 10-Mar-13 22:55:10

Mrs Bri so sorry to hear about job loss, crappy timing, and hope you are able to manage untill a new job can be started. your poor dh probably feels terrible!

You lot talk! on page 4 by the time I even find the new fred!

Rock re potty training, my dd has only recently turned two but always tells me when she has done something and has been known to ask for potty and occasionally produce something. But she cant pull down nappy or trousers herself and only just manages to sit on a potty without catching her vest or dress. Im very aware of the possibilty of regression, so with all the other changes taking place, i think i might be wise to hold off till summer, and baby is settled etc.

Now on night number 4 with my dd in big girl bed, feel very sad walking past an empty cot, she feels all grown up already!

Practisingparent Sun 10-Mar-13 22:56:50

Oooh, i got choccies and flowers and a cup of coffee in bed this morning! I felt pampered but think I might hold out for breakfast in bed next time! grin

Pineapple80 Sun 10-Mar-13 23:45:15

Oh so sorry to hear about DH job MrsBri hmm. I can kind of relate as my DH is job hunting since our move over here and often does et him down. But I am working and trying to keep him positive. That's all you can do really... How is your DH? And you?

Wing - yay for your last week of work! Is it going to be a busy week or winding down?

We have a bank holiday today so I'm really going to relax and enjoy it. It is stinking hot though and not nice whilst pregnant! Take care all x

MrsBri Mon 11-Mar-13 07:19:23

Thanks all...I'm not so bad, for now, but in a month or so I'll start to worry, I think. See how we fare.

DH is pissed off, but actually feels relief as the bloke was a knob! Sadly he hadn't been there long enough to sue, but he is legally entitled to the week's notice and accrued holiday the idiot hasn't paid. He abound get the letter today telling him to pay it by 25th. If it doesn't appear, we need to ring ACAS again for the next step, which I imagine is a 7 day letter, then we will sue for it. He's messing with the wrong people as a) I know how to sue as I do it for a living and b) we aren't stupid. Unlike him!

Enjoy your final week, Wing :-)

Hope everyone else is ok and you didn't suffer too much in the heat, pineapple.

WingDefence Mon 11-Mar-13 09:07:52

I'm glad you know your stuff legally MrsBri! Hope he doesn't put up much of a fight.

Pineapple - "stinking hot" is not allowed when us lot in the UK at basking in siberian minus figure temperatures! envy grin

tired it sounds like you were thoroughly spoiled this weekend and Practising choccies and flowers and a cuppa sounds great too!

I had a lovely day yesterday too. DH went to Old Trafford we won't mention the result and I took DS over to my DPs. DM had received absolutely nothing from my brother, not even a text and I had a good chat with both DPs individually in the few hours I was there. There is obviously more to this situation than I'm sharing on here but it seems as if the relationship was very one-sided (i.e. my parents doing all the help, love, contact etc) even before they moved up here and this was just the catalyst to what has become a terrible situation. I don't think my mum is coping very well though - I mean, imagine if it was one of our babies who did this to us in 30-40 years time? After all the love we pour into growing them, having them, bringing them up and doing so much for them and then to have it effectively thrown back in our faces? angry sad

But DM loved the scarf I bought her (found on a MN scarf thread actually!) and the cake I made, even though it was a little dense.

Right, must get stuck into this work to do list so I can seriously wind down the second half of the week! Then I'll just have to start on the baby to do list...

Kittenkatzen Mon 11-Mar-13 11:50:34

Morning! Hope everyone was spoiled rotten yesterday smile

mrsbri that really does suck about your DH's job, fx he finds something else very soon. And hopefully you can get what you're owed from the tosser ex-boss in the meantime.

wing I can't believe it's your last week at work, it really seems to have flown by!

pineapple just envyenvyenvy at your lovely weather!!

Happy monday everyone smile

Sitting in the drs waiting to get my wound redressed and packed. It really smells so I'm hoping its not infected. I'm hoping the stitches can come out today to nurse last week was reluctant to take them out and she didn't have enough information.
Hope everyone is ok and had a lovely day yesterday. I sure did smile

tiredteddy Mon 11-Mar-13 12:52:12

Hi something. Hope you are healing ok? Glad you had a nice day yesterday. How's Henry?

WingDefence Mon 11-Mar-13 12:59:25

Oh dear something - I hope the wound isn't infected either sad

WingDefence Mon 11-Mar-13 14:55:54

I just found this animated babycentre labour video online. It's actually really interesting (if a bit sped up!). Although the mucus plug bit made me a bit bleugh!

tiredteddy Mon 11-Mar-13 18:44:30

WING that's the video I showed my DS's when they asked me how the baby was getting out? shockgrin

WingDefence Mon 11-Mar-13 21:53:28

Aha - I may show it to DS then smile

I've just got back from a nearly new sale and got a fantastic Moses basket bargain! Brand new (not sold as such but I cannot see a smudge on it and the cotton bumper etc looks perfect), with stand and two blankets as well.... FIVE POUNDS! grin It is such a massive weight off my mind as that was the one last thing I really needed. A mummy friend of mine offered me one until her DBro needed it at the end of July but I wanted to get one tonight if I could.

Didn't really get anything else for MiniWing apart from two nice cotbed duvet sets for when she's older and one pair of trousers and one dress (but I've been given lots of clothes already) but I did get tons of books for DS.

DM and I had to wait in the snow for 45 mins before we went in. We were the second car there but waited 20 mins before joining the queue. My friend who we went with said there were only about half the normal number of people there and there was a lot left over when we left (we were near the end to leave!), so the weather must have out lots of people off.

Still - Moses basket! And it's pink grin

tiredteddy Mon 11-Mar-13 22:01:10

Sounds like a great purchase Wing! Not so keen on waiting in the snow though. It's been bitterly cold here today.

Kittenkatzen Tue 12-Mar-13 08:14:37

Ooh excellent bargain hunting wing sounds lovely! smile

Feeling sorry or myself this morning (and a teeny bit panicky stupidly) as I slipped and fell on the ice this morning. Got a scraped knee and a torn coat for my troubles but didn't land on bump at all so I know everything is fine but still can't help worrying a little sad come and tell me how stupid I'm being please!

Rockchick1984 Tue 12-Mar-13 08:23:10

Aww, Kitten you poor thing! I had a bad fall around 30 weeks when having DS and even though I knew I hadn't landed on my bump I was terrified! I'd sprained my ankle and went to A&E but they weren't concerned about me being pregnant - they said that the baby is very well protected even if I'd landed on it, but if you're worrying then trust your instinct and go get checked out for your own peace of mind!

Kitten i got crushed by a horse when around 5 weeks DS is a happy healthy cheeky 13 months now.

So re my scar nurse and dr didn't like how it looked so sent me to the hospital. Drs at the hospital swab it clean it take the stitches out and say it doesn't look to bad

Kittenkatzen Tue 12-Mar-13 10:09:16

Thanks girls smile. Goodness something crushed by a horse certainly puts things into perspective, you poor thing! Glad the wound is healing nicely after all.

Kittenkatzen Tue 12-Mar-13 12:21:27

Ooh dysgu does your fb update mean what I think it might??!! gringrin

WingDefence Tue 12-Mar-13 12:39:36

Kitten I came on here to post exactly the same thing!!! Ooooooooooh grin

tiredteddy Tue 12-Mar-13 13:58:19

WING KITTEN give me a hint please?! wink

WingDefence Tue 12-Mar-13 14:24:08

I'll send you her details on FB. Latest status says: Here we go!!!!

Looks like she may not be attending that lactation MW appt tomorrow after all!

Rockchick1984 Tue 12-Mar-13 14:31:57

Oooh, fingers crossed Dysgu - good luck!!!

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 12-Mar-13 14:42:46

Fingers crossed it's labour Dysgu & not just singing along to Chemical Brothers grin

something, glad Dr's went well & you seem to be healing fine, how are you feeling?

MrsBri, sorry about the job loss, although fantastic that you know your stuff.

brew (caffine free) for Kitten, DS kicked me in the stomach earlier today & I feel sicky (but the same as when he kicks me & not pregnant, so not worried) so I shall join you on the minor injuries bench.

<waves> at everyone else.

WingDefence Tue 12-Mar-13 15:48:26

Gary - hahaha!

Kitten sorry I forgot to ask how you were feeling eariler blush Hope you're not too achy.

Kittenkatzen Tue 12-Mar-13 16:28:28

<shuffles up for gary> do you think someone will be along in a minute with a magic sponge for us like they have for "injured" players in football matches? grin

I'm fine thanks wing - defo more pissed off about tearing my lovely coat than anything else now!

WingDefence Tue 12-Mar-13 17:46:10

Hmm, artistic shabby chic patch on your coat?

MrsBri Tue 12-Mar-13 17:57:30

Ooh...good luck Dysgu!

Her babies don't like to stick around, do they?! Glad we've decided to be ready at 30 weeks after hearing about her deliveries.

Hope the occupants of the minor injuries bench feel better soon :-)

And good buy, Wing...I need to order a bespoke mattress for our Moses basket as it's almost 60 and bigger than the ones you get now. Must remind DH to bring it home later!

It also needs lining, but DH's mum has found somebody who can do that for us. Hopefully it won't be too dear.

How's the final week going, Wing? I start working from home one day a week from tomorrow. Can't wait to a) get up at 7.15, not 5.45 and b) not do my 90 minute commute each way! Bliss.

Oh, and I get to not answer the phone. Bliss!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Tue 12-Mar-13 20:52:07

Hello all hangs head in shame for being a rubbish MNer at the moment

I have been so busy recently I haven't even had chance to lurk. But thank fully I finish my teaching on Thursday and will just continue working at home until I can get my last piece of PhD work done.

Sounds like a few people have been in the wars - hope you all feel better soon.

I have finally got an appointment with the SoM. I am having a meeting about my homebirth on Thursday afternoon with a HB midwife, SoM and a consultant obstetrician. Hopefully they will be supportive but I am armed and ready with evidence just in case they're not!

I've really been suffering with what I could only describe as rib pain but it feels deeper than that, so maybe diaphragm pain (if that's even something you can get confused?) It seems to be related to the baby's position and seems to be worse at night when I've been lying down for a while. I have been relegated to the sofa for fidgeting too much!

I'm not sure who I am friends with on FB but sounds exciting re. Dysgu. Someone at church who is - or was - due around the same time as you Wing gave birth yesterday. She had a baby boy who is small but perfectly formed, so that's good news. People keep saying to me 'can't have got long now' because I'm the size of a whale and I know it's theoretically only 6 weeks but it feels like forever away! Especially because I know that in all likelihood I am going to go 2 weeks over because I seem to 'cook' my babies for ages!

DH is out tonight so I'm going to sit on our new and exciting sofa with a Creme Egg and watch Grey's Anatomy or Casualty.

Hope you all have a good evening. Will hopefully keep upto MN a bit more from now on as I do miss hearing what everyone is up to.

WingDefence Tue 12-Mar-13 21:23:48

I'm watching Masterchef - hurrah it's back! Sooooo scary to think that I will probably be watching this same series at silly hours in the morning while I feed new MiniWing! shock

Guinea I was just thinking the other day how the bump inside me is now actually a child and not just a growing foetus/baby. She could arrive within the hour please don't though little one! and, as for your church friend, she'd be absolutely fine. Argh!

I also get the rib intense pain, especially when I'm in bed. Yes, I think it's to positioning but I doubt she's going to engage any time soon to give me any relief.

Isn't it mind blowing to think just how far we have all come from when we were on the JSing thread, JSing EOD 'like something', then that 2WW, each of us getting our BFPs, then scans at various stages and on until WOW our babies have started arriving! It's enough to make me a bit emotional. I luff you guys! thanks

Kittenkatzen Tue 12-Mar-13 21:54:35

<passes tissue box to wing> you big sap winkgrin

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Tue 12-Mar-13 23:08:38

I know. Time seems to have gone both incredibly fast and incredibly slow - those first few weeks until first scan and 12 week 'safety' were agonising but here we are, some with babies, some just about to but all of us having bringing up new children this year.

I also share your excitement for tv programming...I can't wait for Home Delivery to start on ITV. Next week they'll be 2 baby programmes to get hormonally weepy about grin

WingDefence Wed 13-Mar-13 08:40:49

<blows nose> Thanks kitten grin

Guinea if you mean OBEM I'm usually more likely to shout at the tv at the annoying men couples and the way the midwives are working than blubbing!

tiredteddy Wed 13-Mar-13 11:04:45

At doctors as Fern is having her first immunisations and 8 week check today. She really wailed!

Kittenkatzen Wed 13-Mar-13 11:30:07

Aww poor little Fern sad Hope she doesn't feel too poorly with them!

wing i know what you mean about shouting at the TV when OBEM's on - my DH is awful, he can be a lot bit of a snob and will constantly pass judgement on all the couples. I shouted at him for it a few weeks ago (I couldn't hear the telly over his bitching!) so now he just sits quietly raising his eyebrows and rolling his eyes every 5 seconds....! And I'm sure a couple of those midwives aren't old enough to have left school yet!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Wed 13-Mar-13 12:28:02

Yes I spend most of the show getting cross but I always cry when the babies are born - just can't help it!

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 13-Mar-13 13:23:30

Kitten, maybe some of that special spray stuff they use after a footballer has been injured and is rolling around dying....and the magic liquid they drink, limp off, sip of 'water' & they're back on tackling.
Footballers salary would be nice too grin

I'm still on the injury bench, managed to mess up my shoulder last night, can't lift DS on one side or bump the buggy up/down <faints dramatically>

Wing, I've put it into record (Masterchef that is!)! Very happy it's back, tried Masterchef Australia for a while but it t'was rubbish.
Although I never find a couple on OBEM I 'like', like Guinea the second the baby appears I cry, and then usually judge the name. blush

<calpol> for Fern tired, still can't believe we have proper babies here! <steals tissue box off Wing>

18+4 today, scan in two weeks. Starting to drag a bit....

Kittenkatzen Wed 13-Mar-13 18:11:01

Nooooooo gary, Masterchef Australia is bloody brilliant! You have to stick with it through the first few episodes where there's a gazillion finalists, but once they get the final 24 they all move into the Masterchef house and it becomes Masterchef meets big brother grin only better! I actually can't stand the uk version, it's so dull and serious by comparison!

Dysgu Wed 13-Mar-13 20:35:25

I have just got home and must say it is lovely to be home as I felt something like a spare part sitting around waiting for something to happen but also knowing it was for the best if nothing happened. I did get a snapshot of other women going through the angst and pain of labour though - that is the part you forget about even when you have done this twice before!

However, I also got a preview of life on the maternity unit where all the midwives and doctors are lovely, as are the ancillary staff (probably a proper name for them but I mean the cleaners, the people who bring the meals etc) and the place was really warm and clean. They even have disposable bath mats in the shower rooms for avoiding standing on the floor- although everything was spotless!

I spent most of yesterday in a day ward which had three beds in. We had a window bay so could watch the snow but it was very warm as the heating was on... also had an impromptu visit from my MW and then in the evening our ante natal group came round for their visit (which we had ummed and aahed about attending - the irony!)

They managed to stop the contractions yesterday so it was all very odd - previous attempts with DD1 and DD2 failed so we thought it would all be over by lunchtime but obviously different drugs and the extra stuff I am taking anyway mean my body responded differently and baby is holding on. Is all a bit uncomfortable really - head is really low and still leaking fluid - but I know it is better for the baby if we can keep it in. Also have ABs to take for the next 9 days (or until the baby arrives) to avoid infection and have to go back to hospital every 2 days and have to see the consultant every 4 days - being on 'bed rest' is going to be quite exhausting

Sorry for the mememe post - hope everyone else is doing well.

WingDefence Wed 13-Mar-13 21:04:33

Wow Dysgu - such a lot of visits etc you've got to go through! I'm rubbish - please remind me how far along you are now? Is there a point when they'll say 'right, baby's coming out now'? Eg 35 weeks or something or is it just as long as possible?

I've got my 36wk appt tomorrow at 36+5 and I'm not sure what she'll do apart from feel the baby's position? I can't remember when my next appt is after then either (I must look it up on my green notes).

I've just had a 50min skype call with the person currently in Australia (but is English) who is due to take on my role while I'm off. I'm blinking knackered now and I just can't wait to finish work on Friday. I have a handover teleconference with my line manager tomorrow but got a lot of the proper work done today so I should only now have things like expenses claim to do, clean up my laptop of old files and emails, that sort of thing. I want a dossy day on Friday!

Dysgu Wed 13-Mar-13 21:20:14

Wing I am 34 weeks today - which is a good time but they really hope to keep the baby in a bit longer. I think no one really expected the contractions to stop yesterday so no one knows what is going to happen. I saw a lovely doctor and he just said he could not say what or when things would happen but if we can keep the baby in for at least another week it will put it in a much better position medically. Obviously he could like it to stay in until 37 weeks but did not reckon what was likely - but said that if I got to 37 weeks then they would induce me.

And I have come home like a walking pharmacy - I have to do extra blood tests to ensure my blood sugar is staying normal, my trial pessaries have stopped so they have given my progesterone as that helps to maintain a pregnancy and then I have antibiotics to be taken every 6 hours. DDs are 'fighting' over who gets to play nurse!

DD1 especially found it very hard coming home from school yesterday and finding me not here. My DMum collected DDs from school/pre-school - DD2 went with the flow but DD1 was tearful and stayed that way until I came home today. We were a bit naughty actually: DD1 had a hospital appointment today anyway with her consultant for straight after school - so DP collected her after afternoon registration and brought her to see me at the hospital. I gave her a tour of the unit so she knew where I was. She was really happy when they said I could home this evening but at least now she knows where I will be when it happens again and she is now ready for it to happen again!

WingDefence Thu 14-Mar-13 08:48:11

Your poor DDs sad And yay for labour stopping. Perhaps your care team have learnt something from the last two?!

I've got my MW appt this morning. Completely underwhelmed by it now grin

One more day... <sung a la Les Mis>

WingDefence Thu 14-Mar-13 10:36:43

Well everything fine at my end. Full term tomorrow! shock

Apparently there was a slight trace of ketones in my urine sample so the MW has sent it off for testing. (Embarassingly I'd only managed to squeeze out a few mm of wee this morning as I was rushing out of the door whereas normally I give a full pot!) Sorry - TMI grin

I can't remember what that means but I feel absolutely fine and have had a bit of (TMI alert again) creamy white discharge which I was ignoring but it's probably linked so could be thrush, who knows. I have to ring up on Monday for the results.

When the MW and I were going through the MW schedules to see if the lead MW was going to be around for my next appt in two weeks time, she checked and it seems that my lead MW (the lovely one who brought my HB box over and went through it all with DH and I) is actually on holiday from now until 3rd April so I very much doubt she'll be around to do my HB sad Bit sad about that as this MW is a crazy-hyper-loves-her-mascara MW and I'm not sure I'll be as calm with her around. Oh well, we'll just have to see what day and what time it is as to who turns up I suppose!

notsoold Thu 14-Mar-13 11:37:47

Dysgu!!! I am very happy for you that they managed to control the contractions!!! Take easy babe!!!smile

Wing almost there then!!!! Shame about MW being on holiday for your HB !!! Booo hoo to that!!! But maybe you will be surprised be the MW onn the day!!!!

Gary...I bet the time is dragging but will arrive soon! And then, the 20week scan will be done and you will have more photos of little one :

Kitten I hope you are well!!!xxx

Sorry I have been missing! I was going to be a birth partner for a friend in beginning of April, but baba did not wait and after lots of stress for Mum and family baby Alex arrived and I was there!!! Second time I am someone birth partner but first time since ttc and I thought...OOMMGG it hurts!!!! But Mum was happy I was there and I am happy to help her and quite honoured to see another brad new person arriving!!!

Hello to everyone!!!! I booked a private scan on 22th March (will be 8 weeks then). I hope it will help my nerves...

WingDefence Thu 14-Mar-13 11:39:31

I've just seen on the evil Facebook Dysgu popped this morning at 3am-ish!

I won't spoil things for her by telling you the details on here grin

Congrats Dysgu!!

MrsBri Thu 14-Mar-13 11:56:25

Congrats Dysgu!

Boo to AWOL midwife though, Wing.

Notso, I think an 8 week scan is a good idea. Should help with the nerves. For a short while!!

Struggling to cope at work at the moment thanks to working with a bunch of lazy bitches. HR are as much use as a chocolate teapot too. :-/

WingDefence Thu 14-Mar-13 12:00:07

MrsBri if you want to moan about work, feel free. I'm sure we can offer some advice brew

notso, I agree about the scan too. You'll be counting down the days then? smile

StuckOnARollercoaster Thu 14-Mar-13 12:00:14

Wow was just reading the posts and going to write something about how its the home straight now for wing and dysgu but it looks like dysgu has gone and finished!
Congrats - can't wait to hear the details and see some pics...

wing I think you must be next to get a snuggly newborn to cuddle. Hopefully you can relax and enjoy your remaining days now...

notsoold that sounds lovely - to be at a birth but not on the painful side. Must be quite emotional knowing that it will be you eventually and you get to see your baby soon with the extra scan...

Starting to count down the days to finishing work here - its quite sad as my remaining tasks are all about wrapping up the piece of work I've been doing. Although its contract work I've been here since June last year so its like I've become 'part of the furniture'.
Also just had a text from boyfriend and I've had a successful ebay bid and made another baby purchase - am starting to get the hang of this babystuff shopping! (Have got a baby bean bag to plonk the little one in so I can at least go to toilet/have shower/make cup of tea!)

StuckOnARollercoaster Thu 14-Mar-13 12:01:49

MrsBri I've yet to find a decent HR department anywhere that I work -it seems to be a common thing!
(apologies if anyone on this thread works in HR blush)

notsoold Thu 14-Mar-13 12:10:59

Dysgu!!!! Congratulations!!!!

Wing.... I am counting the days. And the hours smile

Stuck...it was quite lovely and kid of intense. Knowing that (hopefully) I will be there at the hospital was weird!!! (different hospital,but YKWIM)

tiredteddy Thu 14-Mar-13 12:30:31

Ooh exciting can't wait for the details Dysgu!

Wing, it might even be a different MW altogether? Happy end if work for tomorrow.

Notso, 22nd is a good date, it's my DH birthday!

Kittenkatzen Thu 14-Mar-13 12:54:02

ooh how exciting for dysgu can't wait to hear all the gorydetails!

wing hurrah for reaching full term and finishing work on the same day, what a lovely way to end the week smile

mrsbri sorry you're having a crap time at work. Don't you started working from a home a little bit soon? Hopefully that might make things a bit easier.

notso how lovely to be able to be there for your friend - must have been weird to be thinking "that will be me soon"!

stuck baby bean bags? What is this thing? I must google immediately as I think I want one! grin

WingDefence Thu 14-Mar-13 13:30:55

Is a baby bean bag like this? I love the yawning baby in the main pic!!

Yes tired I was always expecting it will be a random MW so as not to get my hopes up but having met my lead MW now a couple of times recently and as she was the one to come round and discuss everything with us I was really hoping she'd be around. I knew the chances were slim anyway as she is part time but being on annual leave completely wipes the chances unless MiniWing doesn't come early (DS was 3 days early and they also pushed my EDD back by 8 days at the dating scan) which I doubt.

Right, have got my handover teleconference in an hour so I just want to finish off a few bits before then smile

(And Stuck oooh snuggly newborn baby smell!)

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Thu 14-Mar-13 13:51:58

Congrats Dysgu , can't wait to hear all about it!

I have 15 minutes more of teaching (its my office hr hence the MNing) and then I'm done! Not quite full maternity leave but at least I can work at home now and not have to trek in to University. Might treat myself to a wine tonight! Sending one to you for tomorrow Wing wine !

Sorry to hear about your MW being away. This happened to ne when I was pregnant with DS and planning a HB and I was so disappointed at the time. Hopefully when it comes to it you will be visited by a wonderful MW who, if you're anything like me, you will be eternally grateful for and have no idea what her name was or what she looked like blush .

Would love to be a birth partner notso - congrats to your friend and good luck with the early scan.

Right, going to finish boxing up my stuff for when we move to a new office building during my leave and then its off to the hospital for my meeting with SoM and consultant. Wish me luck!

WingDefence Thu 14-Mar-13 13:53:43


And yes, good idea about wine tomorrow night!

StuckOnARollercoaster Thu 14-Mar-13 15:28:14

yep that's the type WD and that baby is so cute! the harness bit can be changed as the baby becomes a toddler so its a bean bag for their room.
I couldn't decide what kind of bouncy chair would be useful given that the comments seem to vary between my baby loved it, to my baby hated it and there are so many different types and prices that I decided not to get one at all and then I saw these and thought that even if the baby hates it - it may be useful once they're at toddler stage and so wouldn't be a complete waste of money! (Plus buying it on ebay for a fraction of its new price!!!)

goodluck guinea

Kittenkatzen Thu 14-Mar-13 18:26:41

The baby beanbag looks amazing! We've bookmarked it to buy when baby outgrows the bouncy chair we've already bought smile

Good grief someone in this train smells like they've not washed in a month, it's properly grim. An having to keep my face in my scarf not to vom sadenvy <-- puke face

MrsBri Thu 14-Mar-13 20:13:06

I hate smelly train people...I seem to encounter them all the time.

There's a woman who gets on my train in the morning who has a range of coats that could be bath mats, kind of, or 70's cushion covers, and they smell rank. That musty, got damp and not dried properly, smell. Makes me want to puke and she insists on sitting near me. In face, she's a 'race the preggo to a seat' culprit!

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 14-Mar-13 20:28:01

Congrats Dysgu!!

Now you tell me Masterchef Oz is awesome, dammit! Thanks for the warning Kitten, will catch it next time around.
Masterchef UK clashed with something in the planner last night, so I'm not even watching that now.

I want a beanbag, DS Hated his bouncychair, only liked the swing. Expect this one to be just as awkward.

MrsBri, my best mate & I gave nicknames to everyone on the train to work about 5 years ago....everynow and again I get a random text saying 'OMG! Just seen Fishfork',
Fishfork doesn't sound as fun to sit next to as MustyCoat.

<waves> madly.

MrsBri Thu 14-Mar-13 20:37:15

Ha ha...I sometimes see Banana Man on my evening train. He's a bloke who always eats a banana on the way home! Makes commuting not so bad.

There's also Fat Twat. No explanation required! He wears half mast tracksuit bottoms which also have holes in. Nice :-/

We have a bouncy thing. Hope Baby B approves! :-)

Dysgu Thu 14-Mar-13 22:12:33

Hi all - yes, Evan David Nelson Langford made a quick, early arrival at 3.16 am this morning after something of a dash to the hospital! He weighs exactly 5 lb and is perfect.

I did have niggling pains at around 11pm but they were not hurting and as contractions had stopped on Tuesday I did not pay them much attention and headed to bed. I was woken with a GUSH at 2.05 am and within 5 minutes big contractions were coming. I timed a few and they seemed to be up to 90 seconds long and coming every 2 or 3 minutes so I woke DP about 2.25 am and called my parents to come over to be with DDs.

DDad headed over - but whilst living very close, the floating bridge that connects to two towns does not run between midnight and 5am so he had to drive the long way round and there are traffic works that cause a long diversion - even though there was very little traffic!

DDad arrived and we left home at 2.55 am. We are close to the hospital so were there by 3.05 am and I had been told when I called to head straight for Labour Ward and not maternity. As I walked in to Labour Ward they were just preparing a delivery room so I had an other contraction before climbing onto the bed. MW was connecting the monitor and trying to take my BP etc and I told her I needed to push. She told me all was fine and gave me the gas and air so I told DP to tell her I needed to push! They managed to undress me from the waist down after my second contraction on the bed.

I remember saying "it's coming. I promise you, it's coming" and she said yes, it was fine.

And there was a baby on the bed between my legs! We had been in the delivery room less than 10 minutes!

I think everyone was surprised at just how quickly he made an appearance! I think he rode out on a wave of amniotic fluid as the place was soaked (and my slippers, which were on the floor, have had to be binned!)

1st degree tear so no stitches. Gas and air to deliver the placenta.

Dp went down to NICU where they had taken the baby and came back with first pictures. Then DP headed home and was home before DDs got up for school/pre-school. They came to meet their baby brother after school and have declared they love him and want him to come home soon and that we should keep him!

I am now home - hoping to get some sleep in my own bed and hospital is a hard place to sleep as alarms go off all the time. They don't have a transition ward here - that is the next step and they are currently setting it up. I will go in again in the morning and have been given a pump to use as we try to establish a milk supply. Nothing happening yet - at all - with hand expressing or the pump but I will keep going. I have struggled before and only managed to express any milk until both DDs' due dates before giving up....

Hope all else are well - off to sleep for a bit before trying to express again.

Oh congratulations Dysgu thanks, and I hope that Evan is home with you soon. What a quick delivery too - I bet DDs are pleased to have you home so quickly. Good luck with the expressing

I'm feeling in brighter spirits today, despite all that is going on with the horrible hyperemesis and Twuntish STBXH. I had my 20 week scan, and everything looks perfect, and I'm having a little boy grin Now the fun of thinking of baby names, and whittling down a list.

All the talk of smelly train people reminds me why I am SO pleased I don't live in mainland UK anymore, no trains where I am and my daily commute is a 10 minute walk along quiet lanes. DCs are at school a 3 minute walk away, and the nursery place I have reserved is at the nursery at the top of my hill, equidistant between my house and DCs school.

Off to bed for me now, shattered still from the ongoing vomiting and stress of the domestic situation!

Rockchick1984 Thu 14-Mar-13 22:27:33

Mahoosive congratulations Dysgu but it all sounds very dramatic!! How long do they expect Evan to stay in NICU for? My friend's little one was kept in due to being prem and she was allowed to breastfeed rather than expressing, maybe ask if that is an option if it's something you would want to do, particularly once your milk comes in? Even if it's just one or 2 feeds per day, obviously you can't be there all the time with having other kids!

Rockchick1984 Thu 14-Mar-13 22:28:56

Oh Waves, congrats - little boys are amazing!! Have you narrowed the list of names down yet?

Rock I am not doing so well on name narrowing down, I love Osian, Dylan, Sebastian, Caspian, Corin, Arlo and Jules at the moment - but that may well change. DS and DD are hugely excited at the prospect of a baby brother, and with them being so much older I'm sure they will want to be actively involved in looking after him. At least it will be easier than last time (only 17 months between DS and DD), and DS2 is due end of July, so it will be school holidays too. I hope we have a lovely summer as I am having dreams of making home made icecream and sunbathing on the patio for a couple of months smile

tiredteddy Thu 14-Mar-13 23:11:31

Wonderful news Dysgu! S pleased to hear about Evan and his safe arrival. How lovely to have a little boy too. Hope you are resting and feeling ok.

Waves, you do sound brighter! Another DS for you too and I love all the names on your list! Ice cream sounds rather wonderful maybe we should all come and visit smile

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Thu 14-Mar-13 23:31:47

Congrats Waves on a great scan and finding out you're having DS2. I love the name Sebastian but it was vetoed by OH - totally irrelevant in the end as we have found out we are having a girl! We have chosen a name but am keeping quiet until she arrives smile .

What an entrance to the world baby Evan. Good news that you're allowed to keep him Dysgu grin . Have you thought about using a supplemental feeding system? This allows you to 'top up' milk for baby with expressed breastmilk or formula at the same time as breastfeeding - this helps build up your supply as well as being lovely for you and baby. I know its a pain, but might also be worth waking up to express at night. Prolactin levels are higher at night and is a key factor in milk production. Glad you're home and managing to rest. Hope you can all be together as a family soon. (p.s. am slightly envy of your speedy labour/delivery - do you think I could book one of those?!)

My meeting went really well today though what was meant to be half an hour ended up being 2! I was certainly grilled regarding what I would/would not want/expect/accept as part of my care, but it was done in a supportive rather than aggressive way. They are supportive of my homebirth so have been transferred to the hospital where the HB is based. I am, however, going in to make a hospital birth plan with a senior MW just in case transfer is required because I definitely won't be coherent during labour but otherwise I'll see one of the HB MWs at home at 37 weeks.

It was strange being in the same hospital that I was watching on TV last night. We had our meeting in the active birth room with the pretty lights and the ceiling rope/swing thing. Plus one if the MWs was on the programme the other week. I'm embarrassed to say I felt a bit giggly blush .

Pineapple80 Fri 15-Mar-13 01:19:05

Aww congrats Dysgu! Welcome to little Evan smile. Such lovely news!

Guinea - glad your meeting went well. Very cool your hospital was on telly! grin

We have picked a name ourselves as we know baby's sex but are one of those couples not telling! Middle name will be one of DH parents names, which I guess I am fine with. Had our heart set on one name for a while but we came across this one which is more unique and injustvlike it more IMO!

Great news of scans recently, bet it is a relief! I'll be 26 wks this weekend, hospital checkup next week then glucose test the week after. Baby stuff shopping possibly this weekend or next, I think it's going to make it so much more real when we buy things smile.

Not sure why but feeling a bit down today hmm. Lot of stress (created by only myself!) re DH's no-work situation. I know it won't be forever & these things take time but I am worried about what may happen, worried about DH's well-being etc etc. Someone just give me a kick up the bum please and snap me out of this!! Baby needs a positive and happy mumma smile. Anyway I am sure I will be fine, just one of those things that builds up over time I think & I'm letting it get to me.

Wishing u all a good Friday x

Congratulations! When Henry was in scbu they gave me a screen so I could express sitting next to him. Really worked for me but then Henry was term even though he was a size of a 34/35 week baby.

Not much to report here. Dressings getting changed today.

MrsBri Fri 15-Mar-13 07:15:12

Congratulations Dysgu...what a speedy labour! Hopefully Evan won't be in SCBU too long and you can all be at home together. :-)

And congrats to Waves too on finding out you're having a boy. I love your names. I like Sebastian too, but decided we weren't rich enough for it, ha ha! And DH wouldn't have liked it either.

Though he's surprised me with the boy's name we've agreed to as I thought he'd hate it!

We aren't telling many people our names. The boy's middle name is my mum's dad / Bri's brother and the girl's middle name is my dad's mum, so I get a family name in both, bearing in mind they'll have DH's surname.

Only 35.5 days left at work today. Thank god. Not feeling any better about the awful people I work with, but determined they won't push me out.

We've been told the whole company will be reviewed re redundancies after April, with one department under 30 day consultation as of now, so I think they're quite concerned about what will happen. They should be as they only work for half of the day, choosing to sit talking for the rest of it, so as productivity is bound to be looked at, they should well worry!

I'd probably go voluntarily if offered, as I qualify for SMP anyway now and I could then look nearer home when I felt ready. Sadly, my job may be safe!

StuckOnARollercoaster Fri 15-Mar-13 08:07:16

Welcome to the world Evan! Hope you are feeling better soon Dysgu and you can establish feeding that works for you...

Sending lots of positive vibes for pineapple and waves and anyone else that needs a pick me up... Just think of cuddling your baby in a few weeks or months (whichever is appropriate!)

Mrs Bri that redundancy situation has happened to me twice - I was prepared to leave but wasn't selected. Its really tough when people around you are upset and don't want to go, but you can't... Arghhh...

I'm glad Seb/Sebastian gets our thread approval - its no.1 on our boys list of names! Although I'm going to be trying to bring him/her up in Polish so there's a chance of being bilingual so we'd probably use Sebek, which is the cuter Polish way of saying the name for a little boy. Finding girls names much harder and the 2 front runners don't really have a Polish equivalent...

Hope you all have a good Friday... If I don't get a call today then I've passed my GTT test, and I've sneakily decided to work at home. Am shattered and so if pulled up on it am going to use the pregnancy card for the first time. Will still get the work done so it shouldn't be a problem. I'm starting to count down - 10 working days left!

Ah window man is here still in my dressing town.

WingDefence Fri 15-Mar-13 10:21:36

Wow, what an exciting and speedy birth story Dysgu! Congrats again thanks

waves, we're all thinking of you - and your little boy!

Guinea, I hope that all means you get the birth you want. Do you mean the hospital is the one on OBEM? smile

Pineapple it's completely normal to feel down about work situations and your DH even without being 25-26wks pregnant. My DH was made redundant just over two years ago (which was the catalyst for us moving Oop North) but these things do work out. Just think, if he doesn't get a job in the next few months, he'll be around more to help when the baby arrives!

I love the name Sebastian too but DH also vetoed it for being too posh (a la Brideshead Revisited)! Good job we're having a girl then wink

We decided on the first name of MiniWing driving back from the 20wk scan and had decided on a middle name too (one I've always loved for a girl) but DH wants to change the middle name to something Man U-related. hmm Yes really!! It's actually a lovely and pretty normal girl's name and for DS he chose the first name and I chose the middle name (my dad's name Raymond, poor DS! grin) so I will probably let him have this one if he really does want it.

LAST DAY woo hoooo! Better get my last expenses claim written out!

Pineapple80 Fri 15-Mar-13 10:44:55

Thanks Wing smile. I am so lucky to be able to vent here!

Have a fantastic last day at work!!

Pineapple80 Fri 15-Mar-13 10:48:57

Thanks Stuck! And I really like Sebek, sounds very cute indeed smile.

We have a super long surname so a name that is short or able to be shortened is a must!

Kittenkatzen Fri 15-Mar-13 12:52:15

Omg dysgu that really is a speedy and exciting entrance! Really hope Evan is home with you all very soon and that the expressing gets easier.

waves so glad you're feeling a bit brighter, and mahoosive congrats on your little boy! Love your name choices too - I have Arlo on my shortlist, but DH isn't keen at the moment. I am envy of your 10min commute and lovely village life.

mrsbri I'm sending redundancy vibes your bosses way, maybe it'll help!

wing happy last day, hurrah!

We have a little shortlist of names on the go now...only one or two that we agree on though so far! We mentioned our current favourites to a few people last week and got a few hmm faces. Was a bit upset with my bf though who said "just no" to our boys name and openly laughed and took the mickey out of our girls name. I think she thought it came across as friendly teasing, but I was actually quite hurt sad I know I'm oversensitive though so didn't say anything. Just won't tell her any others I really like.

<waves> to everyone I've missed.....I know I've missed loads but I'm too hungry to think straight right now, must go and get some lunch!

Henry's now weighing 7lb 15oz at a month old. He's put on 2lbs 11oz since birth. He has reflux but it doesn't appear to be stopping the weight gain

tiredteddy Fri 15-Mar-13 19:01:04

All of you talking about names really should be testing them out with us grinwink

Something that's great about Henry.

tiredteddy Fri 15-Mar-13 19:02:28

Oops Stuck you shared Sebastian Sebek. A lovely name indeed!

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 15-Mar-13 20:03:16

<wipes tears> Dysgu, that's a lovely birth story...hope you get to take him home soon.

Stuck, We're got a Seb & we get lots of compliments over it.
I've got Eastern European roots, but DH vetoed anything too out there...would love a Violetta, Milena or Maja!

Well done Henry for the weight gain something!

Wing, hope you get to put your feet up from now on!
A few weeks ago, there was a boy called Trafford in one of the tacky (think it was Take a Break!) mags at the Dr's surgery....don't let your DH know that!

Waves, love your list of names, so glad you can focus on the positives no matter how stressful it is for you.

We've got a huge (78 boys names, 65 girls names!) list of names, so hopefully if we find out the sex we can start whittling it down, although we won't pick the name until we meet him/her.

notsoold Fri 15-Mar-13 20:38:12

Dysgu....hope Evan gets home soon!

Well we are already negotiating names as it always takes forever and also something that my relatives in Brazil can pronounce.

WingDefence Fri 15-Mar-13 22:06:48

Gary, DH will not be using the name Trafford! shock grin

Well I'm on maternity leave now with a large glass of lovely wine thanks to Guinea!

I didn't mention yesterday that the MW said she thought MiniWing is back-to-back at the moment. I wasn't too worried but I've looked it up now a lot and I really think I should be doing something about it hmm My BF trainee MW sent me a big list of instructions of positions I need to do pretty much all the time but I've not done much apart from bounce on my exercise ball for half hour last night and tonight because, quite frankly, I'm knackered as it is and the thought of watching tv on all fours, leaning on my ball (which I'm sure is too bloomin squishy compared to last time but DH says he can't inflate it any more grr) is not a great one.

But from next week I shall make more of an effort and I just pray it'll be enough to shift her into the right position before she engages sad

Right, bed. Night all!

Rockchick1984 Fri 15-Mar-13 23:39:08

Wing DS was back to back (didn't realise til he came out) and it wasn't half as bad as I'd thought it would be - very speedy labour although he got a bit stuck on the way out so pushing for quite a long time (no forceps or ventouse or anything though). Oh, re football names, DH has ruled out Scarlett if we have a girl based solely on my team playing in red and his in blue hmm

Kitten my MIL didn't like DS's name and spent the whole of my third trimester calling the bump by another name which sounded like a dog's name to me despite us saying we were 99% set on his name so wanted to start using it to see how it felt!! In the end DH had to have words as I was ready to thump her discuss it in no uncertain terms grin

My morning sickness decided to have a contrary day today - have been feeling lousy all day most days then ok in the evenings then today I felt loads better then have been trying not to throw up since 8pm!

Hooya Sat 16-Mar-13 14:53:24

Hello all! Not been on for ages due to evil evil work week but popping in to say huge congrats to Dysgu and thanks for sharing the lovely birth story!

And good news from waves too that you're doing ok and having a boy!

I've just started to show a bit which is very exciting! Slightly stressfully found out that DP's sister tested positive for the cystic fibrosis gene so we've both had the test too, and now an anxious 2-week wait for the results, but it's still very unlikely so fingers crossed all will be well.

Right, must catch up on some sleep but will have a proper read through soon.

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Sat 16-Mar-13 17:38:29

Congrats on finishing work Wing. DD is also back to back but obviously I'm a bit further behind you. I've read some info from the Spinning Babies website which seems to be vaguely do-able. On a good note, lots of babies turn during labour.

Yes my hospital is the LGI which is currently on OBEM!

I went to the chiropractor yesterday to try and sort out my rib/diaphragm pain which has been waking me up at night. She did an al over check and the upshot is that I'm falling apart! Seeing her a few times over the next couple of weeks to try and get in the best possible shape for birth.

So tired today but still managed to get lots of errands done this afternoon and the kids were impeccably behaved which was incredibly helpful!

Right must get up off my bottom and go and cook dinner which should really have been done and eaten by now

Rockchick1984 Sun 17-Mar-13 08:43:06

Morning ladies! Busy busy week ahead - its my DS's birthday tomorrow so had stuff planned every day between yesterday and Wednesday grin divorced grandparents means twice as many parties smile

I was having horrible dreams last night, dreamed that I started bleeding and thought I was having a miscarriage - I was running around the hospital trying to find where I needed to be but couldn't and I was alone because DH had to wait at home with DS - stupid subconscious clearly knows all my fears!! Woke up with a tummy ache and panicked, but have got an upset tummy (sorry TMI) so presume the pain of that was why I dreamt it!! Anyone else had anything like this?

MrsBri Sun 17-Mar-13 08:51:03

Rock, I had a dream like that in early pregnancy (though we were trying to escape some bad people in the Middle East in mine!). It was awful :-/ But ultimately it was only a dream.

We've got to the point where baby's kicks are strong enough to be seen and felt now. Most amusing! :-) Just waiting for recognisable body parts to start shoving me!

I hope you feel better soon, Rock.

Pineapple80 Mon 18-Mar-13 01:46:01

Wing - hooray you're on mat leave! smile

Hooya - have everything crossed for you for test results. It's so exciting when you start to show isn't it? It took me a while and it's only in the last 3 wks have I "popped" out. I was distressed and thought it may not ever happen, silly isn't it grin.

Guinea - good to hear you got an all over check up of your body. That is a really good idea. How regularly do you have to go and do u have to do much in terms of exercises or such at home?

Happy birthday to your DS Rock!!

We made some progress with baby furniture on the weekend! We got the pram on sale, it was the floor stock which was discounted & previous model but we didn't mind it had a few scratches & little dusty but otherwise new. I have it a good wipe down yesterday and love it! We have also ordered cot, drawers, shelves, bassinet, bath and stand... All the big stuff out of the way which I am so pleased about. I still need to get bedding and toiletries, nappies etc. I just put in an online order at M&S for sleep suits and other basics because there is currently free delivery to Oz. The babywear is also so much more well priced for the quality.

Hope you all have a good week ahead.

WingDefence Mon 18-Mar-13 12:05:53

Hi all!

Well after a knackering weekend I've been out for coffee this morning, popped in to see my parents for a few mins and then shopped (very slooooowly) in Sainsburys. I'm currently sitting in my car outside my house typing this as I'm actually too tired to get out of the car and into the house sad

Pineapple, do you mean you've bought a baby bath that comes with a stand? I've never known anyone needing one of those (I'm prepared to be corrected!) - people I know, including myself, have variously used the bathroom or kitchen sink or a normal baby bath without a stand. Unless you definitely know you'll need a stand, I would consider not getting one as it does sound like just something else to take up space.

But certainly feel free to ignore anything I say!

Oh I really should get out of the car and put my few bags of shopping away. I'm planning on sitting on the sofa with chocolate and the tv on this afternoon and writing a huge to do list. Oh no, hang on I'm meant to be leaning across the damn exercise ball to try to shift MiniWing's position. Trouble is, doing that for a few hours on Saturday has already killed my back sad

ChildOfThe1980s Mon 18-Mar-13 14:48:56

Congrats Dysgu !

Glad you're on mat leave now, Wing but sorry to hear that you're so tired.

My back's starting to ache very easily now, and I'm only week 30 tomorrow. How will the ball help the baby to shift position Wing ?

Also, I have a ball now, are there any simple exercises that anyone recommends (to get me ready for labour preferably) ?

tiredteddy Mon 18-Mar-13 16:27:35

Child, I have no advice about exercises or balls as I have managed to have three children without ever going near one! Oh actually I did sit on one briefly at the hospital when in labour with ds1 and jumped right off again. I found no relief in putting pressure on my nether regions when about to give birth! Hope your back feels better soon though and someone has something helpful to say.

Wing, out for coffee how nice, that's what I spend most my time doing at the moment. I must start going for walks and things once the weather improves. I bet the tiredness is catching up with you as you've been so busy! Hope you had a relaxing afternoon.

Pineapple, sounds like your shopping is well under way now. M&S sleep suits are lovely quality we have some for Fern. Your pram sounds like a great bargain too!

MrsBri, I almost miss baby kicks and my bump. It's weird I still look at Fern and think its impossible she was ever inside me now she is such a part of our family seems like she's always been here.

Rock, happy birthday to your DS hope he had a great day. Your dream sounds horrid I always dream about whatever I'm worrying about too.

Guinea, ds2 was back to back but we didn't know until he made his appearance the facing the wrong way up! It was more painful but I'd assumed that was due to it being quicker than ds1. Hope you are feeling less tired?

Hooya, fingers crossed for your results. Nice that you are showing it makes it seem more real at last.

Hi to everyone else!

Pineapple80 Mon 18-Mar-13 19:28:04

Wing - we got the bath with stand because...our house has not a single bath in it! I figure we can use the laundry sink at first quite easily for a while but hate the thought of having to bend down in shower when baby is bigger! Has anyone else had the no bath issue in their home before?

WingDefence Tue 19-Mar-13 08:08:29

Aha, that makes sense. Is it pretty large then to take an older baby?

I'm off to the Trafford Centre to get the last bits and pieces (exciting things like hopefully MiniWing's first teddy and unexciting things like maternity pads) with my DPs. I've already said though that I want to just be dumped in a Starbucks somewhere if they are going to go off and look at furniture and stuff so I've got my Ina May Gaskin's guide to childbirth to start reading.

For those of you with older DC, have you got / are you going to get a present for the DC from the baby and vice versa? I was thinking of getting DS some Lego and saying it's from MiniWing but not sure about the other way round. DH hasn't heard of doing this at all (either way round) so I wondered whether it is a good idea?

Hope you've all got nice days planned x

WingDefence Tue 19-Mar-13 08:09:13

Oh and HAPPY BIRTHDAY Pineapple! grin thanks

tiredteddy Tue 19-Mar-13 09:33:02

Happy birthday Pineapple! It's our wedding anniversary today too!

Wing, enjoy your shopping. Have a look at the moulin roty baby teddies, so sweet! And of course Jelkycat ones. We did the present thing from
The baby when ds2 was born as ds1 was a toddler and more likely to be upset/ emotional. We didn't this time as the boys were so much older and dd was born two weeks after Xmas. That said lots of people who bought gifts bought for them too so they were very lucky!

Kittenkatzen Tue 19-Mar-13 12:17:02

Ooh happy birthday pineapple and happy anniversary tiredteddy!

And happy shopping wing

And hello everyone else! grin

MrsBri Tue 19-Mar-13 12:17:56

Happy birthday Pineapple :-)

Had a very productive meeting with HR about the issues at work. I'm not finishing early now, as I thought I might. But the 3 witches will be looked at more closely.


MrsBri Tue 19-Mar-13 12:18:34

Ooh yes, happy anniversary, tired :-)

Rockchick1984 Tue 19-Mar-13 16:21:39

Happy birthday Pineapple and happy anniversary Teddy!

Re presents, my DS loves toy prams but we intentionally haven't got him one before so the baby can buy him one! I also use a sling a lot so am going to buy a doll sling so DS can sling his teddy when I'm slinging the baby, hopefully stop him getting so jealous. Not planning on getting anything for the baby from DS though.

WingDefence Tue 19-Mar-13 17:10:13

Happy Anniversary tired thanks

I had a really productive day at the Trafford Centre! Got tons in Boots (boob pads, tee tree oil etc plus some stuff for the baby like Snufflebabe stuff and saline spray in case she gets bunged up. All things I'd forgotten about.), two lovely funky nursing bras from M&S even though I know MNers think their fitting service is rubbish, steriliser and bottles half price in Mamas & Papas so that they were the same price as on Amazon (even if BFing goes well this time, I know I'll probably want to introduce a bottle after a couple of months).

We looked at teddies but there wasn't the best choice in John Lewis or Selfridges - only Jellycat which are lovely but not quite what I wanted and no Moulin Roty - so I'm going to get another Steiff bear for MiniWing as that what DS has online.

Which do you prefer?
The same as DS's but a different colour?

DH thinks this has a 'more feminine' face
Two-tone bear

I have a favourite but I'd be interested in your views!

I didn't overdo it and we took our time going around. We only had a few places to go to which helped.

Tomorrow, I am going to organise everything! Nesting time grin

MrsBri, glad to hear you sound happier about work. Don't let the bastards witches grind you down sad

MrsBri Tue 19-Mar-13 17:58:48

Ooh, choices, Wing! I like feminine or two tone myself :-)

Well done on the successful shopping too.

How many maternity pads do I need? I have some already, but think I'll definitely need more. Such glamour, isn't it?!

tiredteddy Tue 19-Mar-13 18:19:12

MrsBri, glad you had success at work regarding the witches. Hope they are better colleagues to you in the future. About mat pads, I got through several packets at least 6 packa of the nice thick ones before I used the slimmer ones.

Wing, you day sounds great. The teddies are lovely too. I was looking at those in Bentalls at the weekend. They do a girly princess one too and a cool pirate one I'm a little boat / nag that I really liked! From your lovely selection I like the second one with the green t shirt it dies just have a very sweet face. But as I'm indecisive I'd be tempted to get the one that matches your DS's one as I like things to match wink helpful arent I?grin

Kittenkatzen Tue 19-Mar-13 18:26:04

In the teddy competition my vote goes with Mr Wing - the teddy in the stripy tshirt is adorable!

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 19-Mar-13 19:19:44

Happy Birthday Pineapple!
Happy Anniversary Tired thanks all round!

Wing, I don't like the two-tone bear, he doesn't look very bear-like. Can't explain it better than that but I wouldn't buy him. Love the other two, although the one in the stripey top just edges it!

Do you think the dri-nites 8-15yr old nappies will be just as effective as sanitary pads post-birth? I can just fit into them (looking at the sizes) and they do a free sample offer on their website, so tempted to order some to try them out!
MrsBri, I didn't bleed much at all after DS, only a little bit after wiping for 3/4 days...the big cheap Value sanitary towels from the Supermarkets were what I used.

Hooya, congrats on showing...and fingers tightly crossed for your results.

Dysgu Tue 19-Mar-13 23:39:32

Re maternity pads - I bought 2 packs and have not finished the second one before moving onto thinner sanitary pads. However, this is DC3 and the DDs were very different and I think I probably used about 4 packs on each of them.

Gary not sure I would want the bother of dry-nites myself - pads are easier to put in/out of pants, I imagine?! However, I would also come nowhere near being able to get into them...

Wing another vote here for the 'feminine faced' bear with the striped t-shirt.

Re gifts from DS to DDs - yes, 'he' bought them each a toy dog; he had obviously heard the non-stop games of vets, Crufts, agility shows that go on in this house so thought they would love more dogs - which they do!

DDs have not bought DS a gift - but I have said that they can each choose him something (clothes or toy or whatever) once he comes home from the hospital.

Hooya Wed 20-Mar-13 03:08:19

Oh I'm so behind! Can anyone remind me of how I join the fb group please? smile

MrsBri glad you are getting some help from HR - I too have found that getting anyone from HR with actual answers at work is not easy! Over a week after I sent my email to about 10 different HR people, they still haven't even arranged the conf call to talk about how it impacts my secondment...

Happy birthday Pineapple and hope your DH gets good work news soon. Of course you'll have low moments but things will improve!

tired happy anniversary - Fern 8 weeks already, wow!

Oh Wing I'm envy at Boots shopping - can't wait til our UK trip in a few weeks, going to buy another massive suitcase while there to fit all the shopping in!

GBT wow at being able to fit dri-nites! grin

I am struggling with maternity wear. Ordered a pile of stuff from asos which came today, some of it's ok but I am so used to fitted businesswear it feels a bit odd, and I do want to buy a couple of posher things for big meetings - does anyone know if I could get away with a DvF wrap dress a couple of sizes up on my usual? I thought she did maternity ones but can't find yet...

Today is a holiday, spring is here in Tokyo (22 degrees) and the cherry blossom is starting! Sorry showing off to make up for lack of Boots here! grin

Kittenkatzen Wed 20-Mar-13 07:33:24

<looks out of train window at freezing cold, grey, drizzly gatwick airport>

<wishes it was Tokyo> envyenvy

hooya if you pm me your rl name then I'll find you and add you to the group when I get to work in a bit smile

Kittenkatzen Wed 20-Mar-13 07:36:19

Oh and re the DvF wrap dresses my guess would be that it'd be fine for a while but probably not once you're properly big, depending on your build. I've bought two or three work tops a size up from normal but am finding that whilst they fit my tummy they're a bit loose around the shoulder/boob area and I end up inadvertently flashing a bit of side boob (not a good look - Cameron Diaz I am not) grin

Hooya Wed 20-Mar-13 07:55:25

Thanks Kitten - pm sent!

Have just ordered another 3 dresses from a store called Seraphine... I think you're right about going a size up, I don't want to go flashing anyone (you don't even show shoulders in Japan so sideboob would be blush )

I found my first 2 pg-related stretch marks this morning sad they are very pale as are my other weight gain / loss ones, but still, not too excited about that...

Kittenkatzen Wed 20-Mar-13 08:20:53

Seraphime have some lovely stuff - I was eying up a nice pair of straight leg trousers on there the other day as well as a couple of black officey dresses that I might invest in after payday smile

Boo to the stretch marks...I seem to be ok so far, but then I'm a bit of a chubbier to start with so have some growing space smile

Train just getting to London now, expect a random friend request in half hour or so!

Kittenkatzen Wed 20-Mar-13 08:21:00

Seraphine have some lovely stuff - I was eying up a nice pair of straight leg trousers on there the other day as well as a couple of black officey dresses that I might invest in after payday smile

Boo to the stretch marks...I seem to be ok so far, but then I'm a bit of a chubbier to start with so have some growing space smile

Train just getting to London now, expect a random friend request in half hour or so!

Rockchick1984 Wed 20-Mar-13 09:31:59

Hooya despite gaining loads last pregnancy I mostly wore non-maternity clothes and just let them stretch around my bump as there was hardly any maternity wear that I liked - personally I bought 1 size up depending on stretch, and they were fine (I had a couple of dresses from pre pregnancy that I could still wear by the end)! Just remember that you won't be able to keep wearing them once you've lost the baby weight as they will be all stretched and baggy xxx

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Wed 20-Mar-13 09:46:17

Hi all. Sorry I missed birthdays and anniversaries yesterday - had another busy day.

Went to another chiropractic appointment yesterday but also went to a talk about chiropractic for pregnancy, babies and children (my chiropractor specialises in this area) and WOW - I had no idea about the kinds of things chiropractic could help with as I wasn't totally sure what chiropractic even did

She recommends all women get a check before birth as so many people have 'issues' that don't cause pain but that can affect labour/birth - I had no idea that my pelvis was slightly twisted as I haven't had any pain but she said if it hadn't been adjusted it would have reduced the space available for miniGuinea when she comes. She is also treating my rib pain/tight diaphragm as well as a tight neck, some compression in my mid spine, and my heartburn! Best thing is I don't have any exercises to do at home grin.

I am also going to take miniGuinea as soon as she's born - research has shown that approximately 90% babies (regardless of how/where they are born) experience 'trauma'/strain from the birth. This can cause nerve irritations that can cause problems with breastfeeding, colic, reflux etc. I'm also taking DS as he has a number of issues that can be helped with chiropractic and she offers free assessments.

Anyway, as you can probably tell I found it very interesting!

We have a busy day today - setting off for ballet in about half an hour, then meeting a friend for lunch, got to take the sofabed cover to the launderette (we are selling it), and then I'm helping at DSs school disco - so I'll be surrounded by loads of screaming children for a good 3.5 hours confused. Wish me luck! Hope you all have a lovely day.

Kittenkatzen Wed 20-Mar-13 11:07:44

hooya! I think ive found you on fb but you seem to have ultra high security to the point where I can't even send you a friend request! grin

I pm'd you earlier with my name so I think you'll need to friend me and we'll do it that way....

WingDefence Wed 20-Mar-13 11:25:46

That's really interesting Guinea - I have heard of cranial something for young babies which I'm guessing is done by a chiropractor but never did it for DS.

Hooya, Isabella Oliver does the most amazing and can be pricey clothes, including wrap dresses. I've also got some very smart cotton wrap work shirts and other bits but because I wasn't in an office this time round I didn't use any of them. Check them out and then look on eBay (the clothes do hold their value).

The thing about a maternity wrap dress is by the time you really are getting larger, the hem will stay pretty straight whereas a normal wrap dress hem will rise up as it goes over your increasing belly.

When are you visiting the UK and whereabouts are you coming to?

sorry i havent been here in a few days DS1 has been ill with his first case of tonsillitis been a draining time!

of to get henners registered 5 weeks today!

tiredteddy Wed 20-Mar-13 13:20:08

Hooya, have a look at the Isabella oliver wrap dresses I had one and it's immaculate after three pregnancies and looks great.

Something hi! Hope ds1 is better and enjoy registering ds2. When we registered Fern the lady said she was the first fern shed ever registered. Special smile

Wing, which teddy won the competition????

Hooya Wed 20-Mar-13 13:58:30

Right, I'm on fb now, fun!

I had looked as Isabella Oliver too, just ordered a (hopefully) gorgeous dress and a skirt grin thanks for the recommends!

Naughty day's shopping for me! But in my defence, I was getting so pissed off seeing my lovely suits (mostly tailored dresses and jackets) hanging sadly in the wardrobe, wondering if I'll ever wear them again!

something hope DS1 is ok!

Wing we're visiting at the end of April, starting in Scotland for a week including a trip up to the Hebrides I think for some scenery, then London for a week. So much catching up and shopping to do!

Right, must go to bed before I buy anything else

WingDefence Wed 20-Mar-13 15:10:17

Poor DS, something sad

tired I went for the lovely Knuffi with the green Tshirt. DS wanted us to buy the two tone Ricky bear but to appease him we asked him to name the bear and it's going to be Snuggly Bear (or Snuggy, I can't remember), which will go quite well with his Soggy Bear.

(And in case I haven't explained to you lot why it's called Soggy, it's because DS used to suck its ear when he was a baby!)

I've done some sorting today but not as much as I wanted, but I then moved onto going through the last few boxes of my childhood toys and primary school work that my parents gave to me when they solds their house. Memories!! DH is a bit hmm that I'm keeping all the immaculately boxed Sindys I had, but I can't possibly get rid of them until MiniWing has had a chance to play with them grin

Right. Feet up and then I may head to the cafe before for cake before I pick DS up if I can be bothered.

WingDefence Wed 20-Mar-13 15:11:54

That reads like I may not be bothered to pick DS up from preschool! shock Of course I meant if I can be bothered to go to the cafe! brew

MrsBri Wed 20-Mar-13 16:42:18

H ha...sorry, son, I need cake, so you'll have to stay there! :-)

tiredteddy Wed 20-Mar-13 16:45:49

Yay for the green t shirt teddy now known as snuggly bear, very cute.

StuckOnARollercoaster Wed 20-Mar-13 17:49:26

Ooh catching up and I liked the green t-shirt one!!! Very cute

Another thumbs up for Isabella Oliver. I got quite a few bits on ebay and they are my smartest workwear. The other stuff that I like has been my jojo maman trousers and swimsuit. Have got a few mamas and papas bits but for the price I think the quality is poor. The H&M stuff I rate as similar quality than M&P but wins because the price is so low so I don't expect too much from it.

Well I'm on countdown - only 6 days left at work! Starting to feel tired so I'm glad there's not long left.

I think I have started having Braxton-Hicks contractions - my belly goes all tight and low level of pain (like really bad wind), which then causes the baby to kick and create! Its happened twice, but I'd read about it so I wasn't too freaked out and just think of it as a bit of practice for my body!

Now off to watch the video on FB!

WingDefence Wed 20-Mar-13 18:15:21

Hi Stuck, glad you haven't got long left at work either!

I've been having BH for a few weeks but they aren't painful, apart from when I'm sitting down scrunched over so they may me stretch out to give MiniWing room (like yours is complaining about too)!

Which video are you going to watch?

Oh and I stand corrected on the new bear's name: it's Snuggle Bear apparently smile

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Wed 20-Mar-13 19:18:06

I get BH contractions very frequently - so often that I thought I was in early labour the other day confused. I don't seem to be able to walk 10 paces without getting one. Plus whoever described them as 'painless tightenings' is a man LIED!

Glad you're finishing work soon Stuck, bet you're counting down the days.
Part of me feels like I'm on maternity leave as teaching has finished, but I've still got this research report to write up before I can put my PhD stuff 'down'. Really want I want to do is nest, eat cake and watch TV all day. Ho hum, not too long now I suppose...

Lovely to know Fern was the first she'd ever registered before Tired, I bet not many people can say that. The name we have chosen is not common, in our area, but it's not 'unusual' at all. 'Classic' hopefully.

DS is having a meltdown upstairs whilst putting his PJs on so I must go and intervene. Hope you all have a lovely relaxing evening.

StuckOnARollercoaster Wed 20-Mar-13 20:02:04

Was trying to look at hooya's scan video but am in a hotel and it doesn't seem to be working on their WiFi so I'll have to wait till I get home...

Pineapple80 Wed 20-Mar-13 20:25:24

Ooh thank u ladies for the birthday wishes! grin

I had a lovely day, was at work but spend evening with DH, we got pizza and he had bought me cupcakes too. If only every day was like that!!

I have bought a few maternity basics for work, few stretchy work pencil skirts, a pair of black trousers. Funnily enough no tops as I've managed with stretch longer vests and cardi's over the top.

I also get braxton-hicks, nearly once a day if not every second day. Not painful but can def feel them when happening. Think I first got then 29 wks onwards?

Yay Something, great to hear Henry's registered smile.

Hooya - ahh thanks. I know things will improve, it's just the waiting part and all this uncertainty with DH's work. I've always been impatient and hate not knowing what the future holds!! Uncertainty scares the hell out of me. It's silly I know!

Hope u all have a great day x

Pineapple80 Wed 20-Mar-13 20:58:06

^ oops meant I started getting BH from 19wks onwards

MrsBri Wed 20-Mar-13 21:01:17

I did wonder when you'd gained 2 weeks on me!! :-)

Pineapple80 Thu 21-Mar-13 08:11:28

He he bloody iPhones!!

Had a hospital appointment today and did the GCT test for gest diabetes. The Dr did a quick scan too which I wasn't expecting to check on the uterine doppler flow - apparently all looks good and growth on track, we're really pleased. Was really nice to have another glimpse at baby Pineapple! Looking so much bigger smile

well i.booked the appointment online got the register office and there was no record on the system!
luckily i screen shotted the confirmation so i wouldnt forget the time and showed them that so they fitted us in.

off to get the dressing changed and wound packed later nurse thinks were on the home straight though. then were going to get henry weighed and speak to hv about reflix and development

tiredteddy Thu 21-Mar-13 13:02:32

Ive had some bad news about my mum. sad Been really upset and tearful. She's been taken back into hospital as she's developed a really nasty infection in her wound for her Breast surgery. They are going to have to remove her implant. I can't imagine how she feels. She will be left with her empty breast for a minimum of three months while they ensure the infection has gone before the try again with a new implant. I'm so scared about her having another operation. And what if its worse on the inside than what they can see? There's nothing I can do except talk and text her and dad. I can't talk to anyone about it as no one knows, they are very private people. I have to keep a brave face on for the boys and I just feel really snappy and anxious sadsadsad

Rockchick1984 Thu 21-Mar-13 13:24:22

Oh, Tired I hope she is ok. Sending lots of positive energy your way.

WingDefence Thu 21-Mar-13 13:52:11

Oh no tired sad

Hopefully once this is all sorted she will be able to have another implant and it will all be back to the way it was before. At least they have identified the infection now so they can treat it quickly?

What is it with wound infections at the moment - your mum and something too sad

thanks and biscuit (and wine?!) for your mum.

Kittenkatzen Thu 21-Mar-13 16:39:36

Oh no tired big hugs for you, how has your mum taken the news? As wing says hopefully they can whip out the implant, treat the infection and plonk in a new implant before you know it. thanksthanks for you and for your mum.

something how annoying about the registry office but glad you were fitted in. All official now! smile

tiredteddy Thu 21-Mar-13 16:43:32

Thanks Wing, and Kitten. She sounds tearful. She's saying all the right things and being brave but deep down I think she's very scared. Unfortunately she will have to wait a minimum of three months before they try a new implant so will have a long time with only one normal breast. sad

MrsBri Thu 21-Mar-13 18:00:55

Your poor mum, tired.

I hope the operation is straightforward for her and everything resolves itself sooner rather than later. xx

ChildOfThe1980s Thu 21-Mar-13 18:10:32

Thinking of your Mum, Tired. Hope she'll be ok.

Wing, I think that Baby will get DS a present, if I can be organised enough. I have recently bought the Ina May childbirth book too. It is quite interesting. I also got a hypnotherapy for birth CD, which I haven't tried yet.

I haven't had any BH and I'm 30 weeks. Hmm.

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 21-Mar-13 19:31:57

Tired, sorry to hear about your Mum. Hope the operation is as stressfree as possible and she's 'ok' about having to wait so long for a replacement implant. thanks for her.

Hurrah for Henry being a 'real' person now something...and a chunky one at that, what fabby weight gain!

Hurrah for Snuggle Bear finding a home too.
Am I just a crazy person, or does anyone else feel like a bastard when putting cuddlies/toys with faces away in boxes?

DS was weighed today, 15months & 24lbs....oh, and he's broken the tv. Grrrh.

WingDefence Thu 21-Mar-13 19:44:10

Child, I've only got half way through the birth stories. They are... interesting!

I may skip them and head to Part II then go back to them if I have time smile

Gary, Snuggle Bear arrived today and is as lovely as in the picture. She(?) will be sleeping with me from now until MiniWing is born and then go into her Moses basket (probably right down the foot end- I think that's what we did with DS's bear).

I'm in a foul mood with DH tonight. Can't be bothered to go into why though!

Looking forward to the Home Delivery programme on ITV tonight at 9pm though! You must all watch it (I'll put a reminder on FB too)!

tiredteddy Thu 21-Mar-13 20:13:16

Wing I love that bear. Ds1 has a very old tatty polar bear from mamas and papas called Sunuggles. He's very well loved. Ds2 has a Zutano Zoo Crew baby blanket known as At-it also dirty and frayed and very well loved. The boys chose this for Fern,


They've named it Annie, I'm yet to decide whether she actually likes it or not wink it is sweet though.

Pineapple80 Thu 21-Mar-13 20:22:51

Thinking of you and your Mum tired. Must be a really difficult time and she is so lucky to have you there for her. I hope the op goes well and things progress positively from there. Big hugs to you thanks...

tired im sorry to hear that. thinking of your family flowers

well ive just done a phone interview with a jounalist from the mail and my sepsis story will be featured in an article

Dysgu Thu 21-Mar-13 22:17:39

Tired sorry to hear about your mum and how worrying although hopefully the infection has been caught early and can all be sorted. I guess the 3 months will feel very long for her; are there special bras she can buy to feel better about the way she looks to others although I imagine she just wants the next few months over. Sending best wishes.

Something congratulations on registering Henry. You have just prompted me to look up how we go about registering Evan - will have to find a time when DP is home so he can be on the certificate too! And your story will be interesting to read. Did you do a story after DS1? Sorry, I am not sure what sepsis is, is it something that could affect anyone?

Wing that bear is lovely.

My news is that today, at the age of just one week, Evan came out of his incubator and was dressed grin which feels like such a huge step forwards. I have not managed a single day without tears yet but there are a lot more good times than bad now. I was with him for the morning and he was still under his lights and in his incubator. DP went up for the afternoon and got to dress Evan.

We took the DDs up this evening but hadn't told them that Evan was in a cot and dressed so they were both really happy to see him. DD1 especially felt he looked more like a baby and now wants to visit him every day - she didn't really like seeing him in his incubator as he was so tiny and bony. She was afraid to touch him but loved holding his hand today.

And DD2 found it absolutley hilarious when I was changing Evan's nappy - had got everything done, was about to swap the nappies and he did a HUGE fountain of pooh which went everywhere! I had to pull the emergency cord to get a nurse to come and help - we had to wipe it off the side of his cot, down the side of his mattress and he had even got it OUTSIDE his cot to the monitor which was on the shelf at the bottom of his cot grin hmm

That boy has got talent! He tried to escape from his incubator two nights ago - they gave me the photograph of him turned sideways with his head pressed up against one of the access windows!

ChildOfThe1980s Fri 22-Mar-13 09:10:39

Great news about Evan Dysgu smile And congrats to him on the massive poo.

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Fri 22-Mar-13 09:44:32

Glad Evan is going well Dysgu.

Sorry to hear about your mum Tired. This happened to a friend of mine. In the end she had an operation to reconstruct her breasts using muscles in her back and fat/tissue from elsewhere - is there an.option for your mum to have a reconstructive surgery without implants? It is awful having to wait but fingers crossed it will be sorted once and for all.

It is heavy snow here so had to walk the DCs to school - they loved it but I could definitely have done without it. Got a pregnancy massage booked this morning and thought she might cancel (she comes here) but she's just texted to ask if my road is clear so fingers crossed she comes.

Who.watched Home Delivery last night?

Wing I ended up skipping to part 2 of the Ina May book as I think it has the most practical advice. Though I challenge anyone to doubt their body's ability to birth after finishing that book! I'm also reading Birth Skills by Juju Sundin. she's a physio that does more physical methods of pain management. I figured it wouldnt hurt to have the natal hypnotherapy CDs and something a bit more active should I need it.

WingDefence Fri 22-Mar-13 10:20:50

I watched Home Delivery (as you will know from FB)! I thought all the couples were lovely and normal which was such a positive thing smile

Dysgu, well done to Evan for the poo of the year! I'm only just remembering how obsessive we get as new mums with poo - regularity, quantity, consistency etc etc. Bless their little bums grin

I'm actually sitting at my work desk as I've just spent half hour ripping out staples and getting all my old papers (some a year back) into the recycling bag. I can see the wood on my desktop now blush Will log of here though and drag myself back out of here.

I feel so much more organised now - clothes sorted; changing mat etc sorted; carry cot and car seat adapters on the buggy chassis and working; bits for home birth sorted; Snuggle Bear snuggled!

I think the only things I feel like I do need to do is to pack my hospital bag(!) and also get the home birth stuff all together in one area, including MiniWing's first clothes etc. Then whenever contractions start, I know DH can find the dust sheets, towels etc and the bits for the baby are ready to be picked up so all I'll have to worry about is the birth...

Right. I'm going to log off my work PC and head downstairs to watch the snow! brew biscuit

Pineapple80 Fri 22-Mar-13 10:32:41

Guinea - I am also reading Birth Skills by Juju Sundin. Literally just started but finding it very interesting.

Glad to hear you are feeling organised Wing! Am feeling very excited for you smile.

Friday night over here and just relaxing after tiring day at work!

tiredteddy Fri 22-Mar-13 11:04:27

Thanks for everyone's support. I'm waiting to hear that mum is out of theatre and what the outcome is?

Dysgu, yes there are special bras and things she can wear. I think the hospital will provide a prosthesis too. I'm glad that Evan is doing well. fern also did an enormous poo, all over my bed, really serves me right for not using the changing mat!

Guinea, mum was offered that method of reconstruction as a better one for older ladies at the time of planning this op. however she wanted a quick recovery more than a natural look. She hasn't ended up with a quick recovery anyway but you can't make people's choices for them. I think she was led a bit by my op. as I'd had my mastectomy and recon done before her. Luckily for me it was very straight forward and I was healed and back to normal within 10 weeks. They will try another implant I think and if that doesn't work she will have to consider using her own body tissue. It's all so grim to think about really. I'm sleeping very badly.

frogchops Fri 22-Mar-13 11:43:33

Hi everyone, just delurking for some advice please.....

Have had combined scan and blood results back at 1:140 for downs....mw offered me amino tests which obv come with their own risks of 1:100 of mc. (Although I've read in most places this could be more like 1:200. )
What would you do? Am struggling with getting my head around what I'm going to do here :-/

MrsBri Fri 22-Mar-13 12:08:16

Oh no frog...but sometimes these results are nowhere near accurate.

All I can say is how we decided to not have the tests was ask ourselves if we would act on the results or not. We wouldn't, so didn't get tested at all.

Ultimately it is a judgment call for you and your DH / DP. Sorry if that hasn't helped. xx

Rockchick1984 Fri 22-Mar-13 12:40:53

Oh, Frog I hope you're ok. Turning the figure on its head sounds better though - you've got a 139:140 chance of everything being ok! If you have the additional testing done would you have a termination? I think you need to know the answer to that before you can decide about invasive testing, it's something only you and DH can figure out the answer to. Also which would be worse, not testing and having a baby with Down's, or testing and miscarrying due to the amnio? You don't have to answer, there's no right or wrong as again it depends on your own views and your family. thanks

tiredteddy Fri 22-Mar-13 13:14:11

Frog chops, do a search on hear about something called the Harmony test. It's no invasive some how, I read about it a while ago. I think the test just from a normal blood sample? I really don't think my info is very accurate but it is definately new and much safer than amino. Take care x

WingDefence Fri 22-Mar-13 15:35:34

tired - you're right that you can't make people's choices for them but I do find myself worrying about my parents (and they aren't both that old really, late 60s) just as much as I worry about DS to be honest. I think it's a combination of being a parent myself and wanting them to make the right decisions as they get older, as well as recognising that they themselves don't have all the answers with complete certainty as we thought they did when we were children (infallibility). All you can do is support her in her choices and try to help her not look back and regret any choices she made beforehand I think.

frog - I agree with the others. I can't tell you what I'd do in your circumstances because it's is up to you and your thoughts and situation (and your DH/DP too of course). I know I wouldn't terminate if I knew my child had Downs but I am the sort of person who would really want to know in advance so I could prepare myself, get in touch with different support groups etc. But the amnio test risk is relatively high as well.

Holding your hand though x

frogchops Fri 22-Mar-13 15:58:33

Thanks everyone... I know it sounds like I'm asking you to tell me what the right thing to do is! I think I'm more frustrated that DP was 100% on wanting the nt scan as he thought we wouldn't cope with a downs baby. Now he's almost ignoring the high risk and saying 'oh 0.7% is very low' lets just carry on regardless. I'm also confused that my nt measurement was 1.5 at 13 wks, I don't have any other indicators and am 29 which to me means something was really wrong with bloods ?!

notsoold Fri 22-Mar-13 16:56:27

De lurking

Frog....there is a thread for the harmony test. It is not cheap at all, but not invasive. Would that help??? The test is very thorough from what I read.

Tired...poor Mum. I hope she recovers soon!

Wing you are organized!!! Well done!!

Dysgu..so glad reading your news about Evan and laughing at the poo bit smile

Had a private scan today and now the dates seems to be inline (9 weeks)therefore I will try to relax a bit and to stop thinking how things could go wrong! Good hearbeat and now DH is reading more and more about harmony test.uch more expensive here in Manchester...

Kitten and hooya....hello!!!!

MrsBri Fri 22-Mar-13 16:59:57

That's excellent news on the scan, notso :-)

Oh, and yes, congratulations to Evan on his awesome pooing ability!!

frogchops Fri 22-Mar-13 17:53:01

Good news on your scan notso, and thanks for the harmony advice....but even if we could afford it, I'm just past the timescale for having it :-/

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Fri 22-Mar-13 18:48:00

I can imagine that this is a worry Frog. We didn't get any testing done so haven't been in your position and not sure what I'd do. My best friend has a little boy with Down's syndrome and a few of her friends (from her support group) have had the amnio with their subsequent pregnancies and have said it wasn't that bad. Are there any other soft markers? Nasal bone, femur length etc?

You sound very organised Wing - we've been on a major DIY mission...got new wardrobes for the kids, bought some cupboards for the small bedroom and a big storage unit for downstairs. Just have to sort them all out now confused .

Got an active birth class on Sunday and my parents are coming to put the kids to bed so DH can come. Then going to start collecting cheap sheets and towels from local charity shops.

frogchops Fri 22-Mar-13 18:52:51

Haven't asked about other soft markers yet, I'm currently thinking/wondering wether its worth asking for a second test?

Definatly frog I'd say demand some info b4 thinking about anything more risky, got my scan and test in a couple of weeks, will see what initial results we get but it's so hard knowing what to do! xx

WingDefence Fri 22-Mar-13 20:09:27

Isn't there another invasive test you can have (CVS or something?!) but that may have better odds? Sorry, I should have googled it before posting blush

Towels - yes I need to get more out! Haven't done the hospital bag yet as we've had a nice relaxing afternoon round at friends eating amazing rocky road with crunchies and salted peanuts in but we don't have much planned this weekend so I shall do it tomorrow probably.

Can I please just finish by sharing with you two words that have been stuck ING mind a lot these past few days? PANT SNOT! Ahem.

WingDefence Fri 22-Mar-13 20:10:22

ING = in my

notsoold Fri 22-Mar-13 21:53:51


Pineapple80 Sat 23-Mar-13 04:39:08

Hi Frog. I had CVS done after a very high risk NT result in December 1:21 chance of Down Syndrome & another trisomy was on the higher end but I can't recall exactly the details. It turns out my NT measurement was fine but part of my bloods (PAPP-A) was very very low which can indicate chromosomal abnormalities. My DH and I needed to know for sure, and went ahead with the CVS. It was a very distressing week of waiting but the results came back normal and baby is fine. I have since been monitored more closely for my low PAPP-A levels which can also indicate growth and placental issues. So far all has been reported as normal and well.

There are lots of options, CVS is not a must but will give you a definite diagnosis. This was personally important to us. I have heard of the Harmony test and would look into that if you're near London.

Let me know if you need to know more, I understand it can be really difficult.

Hooya Sat 23-Mar-13 07:58:08

Hello all!

frog I agree with all that's been said - get all the info you can on the nature of the risk, and then decide whether you would take any action on the basis of the results before you decide what to do. For us, we know that we are likely to take action so would go for the test; if our CF results come back both carriers then we will do. Scary times but you'll get through them and you know you'll make the right decision for you flowers

tired sorry about your mum, it is so sad worrying about parents isn't it! Really hope she gets the best care and treatment and is less worried soon flowers

notso brilliant reassuring news, congrats! grin how did it feel seeing the heartbeat? That was the moment my DP had a proper cry, the first time we saw it!

wing I am with you on the pant snot! Ok that sounded a bit strange, but you know what I mean...

Guinea how exciting getting the place ready for the birth! I am very jealous of the homebirthers, seems such a lovely way to bring a baby into the world smile

More maternity stuff arrived today from Seraphine - it's ok but I can't believe I'm going to wear so much stretch jersey for the next 5 months! I'm used to fitted stuff giving my bum a decent shape, now it's going to roam free in all these stretchy fabrics it's looking a bit rubbish! sad

And I miss lie-ins! Been waking at 4am to eat blush

WingDefence Sat 23-Mar-13 08:22:33

Err, pant snot now = bloody show...! confused

And we have no water in the house due to a leak so I I do go into labour today (still think that's a long shot), it'll have to be a hospital birth...

Will keep you all posted. We're actually going to pop to town in a bit as there is no point staying at home while there's no water but perhaps I should tell DH about the pant situation first... hmm

GaryBuseysTeeth Sat 23-Mar-13 08:29:24

OOoh exciting Wing! Good luck for pant watch.

Frog, good luck with what you decide to do. As mentioned here the antnatal tests/choices pages are good for advice on harmony etc.

Tired, hope your mum is as well as can be & you all have a peaceful weekend.

20wks today!

MrsBri Sat 23-Mar-13 08:34:53

I was going to make some such comment about you going into labour when the water is off on Facebook! Very exciting with the show though :-)

Best take your bag if you go out!

Gary...20 weeks?! Your pregnancy is so much faster than mine!

WingDefence Sat 23-Mar-13 08:50:10

Right, bag sort of packed but I don't have any snacks, dextrose tablets, drinks etc in there which I remember stuffing my hosp bag with last time (and never used any of it as DS was so fast).

It is making me nervous though. I think if I had my day planned l be at home and there was damn water I wouldn't feel nervous but his has all completely thrown me sad

Okay, better finish packing the bag then get out. I think a morning in Starbucks while DH takes DS to the shops is a good idea. Hmm, although walking about would be good too wouldn't it?


tiredteddy Sat 23-Mar-13 08:55:46

You lot are so lovely with all you kind words! Mum had her op and it went well. She may come home today.

Wing, wow getting exciting now. Shame about no water. Enjoy you trip to town it might be your last as a family if three grin

Hooya you clothes sound nice from seraphine. I looked at there stuff but always thought it too pricey!

Frog, thinking of you.

Gary congratulations 20 weeks is such a big milestone! smile

MrsBri Sat 23-Mar-13 09:00:48

You need to wander in shops that are known to give you lots of freebies if your waters break in there! :-)

Must be disconcerting having your plans buggered about, potentially. Let's hope you last til the water is back on.

Tired, I hope your mum gets home soon. Much better to recover there than stay in hospital. thanks

Rockchick1984 Sat 23-Mar-13 09:29:18

Tired so glad her op went well, hope she gets discharged today!

Wing how exciting!! Walk around as much as you can, how many weeks are you now?

Gary halfway there!!! Oooh, living on a prayer smile I was 10 weeks yesterday, morning sickness seems to have stopped over the last few days but upset tummy continues - lovely pregnancy symptom! DH remembers me having the same last time, I must have blocked the memory out grin

frogchops Sat 23-Mar-13 09:37:40

Just to make sure I have the right idea here... From what I've read the harmony test is around £750 right? But I was aware that it can be completed up to 14 weeks. I am passed this now, and I know we can't afford this. Makes me feel even worse that I can't afford to sort out such a big decision. confused
DP has said that he feels strongly that the risk of mc is higher than waiting it out and doing nothing more. Only slightly though....and also questioned how we would feel if things turned out fine via amnio and then I went on to miscarry. I'm so drained about this confused

Rockchick1984 Sat 23-Mar-13 09:46:41

Frog if it makes you feel any better about the harmony test, apparently the NHS won't offer it yet as its accuracy isn't confirmed so don't feel bad about not getting it done (we wouldn't be able to afford it either!). How do you feel about waiting it out, not how DP feels? If you decide not to get the further testing done, as tough as it will be you mustn't spend your entire pregnancy worrying about it, you have got a strong BabyFrog (Tadpole?) growing in there, whatever happens will be right for you!

frogchops Sat 23-Mar-13 09:57:32

Thanks rock....tbh my gut feeling was to wait it out too...I know odds are highly in my favour, plus with thinking about the difference between my risk and low risk being 0.03% (I can't remember who posted that but thankyou!) it seems silly to dwell on that 1.
DP reminded me that I'm often buying 1:4 chance scratch cards and I always lose! .... So I reminded him that I also play the lottery in the hope of being that 1....someone has to win right??! And now I feel bad that I compared my baby to a scratch card! :-/

WingDefence Sat 23-Mar-13 10:26:05

You haven't compared your baby to a scratch card - you've just put te risks/chances involved into a more easily understandable and familiar situation.

I can imagine your mind is all over the place. sad Have you and DP decided what you'd do if you had a baby with Downs? (it was World Downs Syndrome Day this week btw!) If you would be fine, then don't have the test and then you won't be taking any chances of miscarriage.

Argh I just wrote out a long paragraph about risks and chances and my phone deleted it all grr. Basically there are people with v low odds (like me 1:100,000) who will have a child with Downs and people with high odds who don't. And people who have no testing like my friend who still have a child with Downs.

Take care hon.

In other news, we've made it into town actually Preston is technically a city and I'm in SB while DS plays on his iPod and DH has gone shopping. Apparently the water is sort of back on in our area as they've rerouted it so I feel a bit better. I was having the mildest low down period pains last night and with all the pant snot I shouldn't be too surprised. I'm 38 dead on today but by my original dates I am 39+ 2 or 3 and DS came at 39+3 or 4, a day or two after my show... confused

Hooya Sat 23-Mar-13 15:08:11

Wing how exciting! Hope your water gets sorted very soon so you can relax(?) at home!

Frog these are very very difficult decisions and you mustn't feel bad about how you make any of them! I'd second looking on the antenatal tests and choices board, loads of info there to help. And I agree with Rock about the Harmony test.

I'm a risk manager at work so I think about odds and probabilities quite a bit. You shouldn't worry about comparing different risks / events - i.e. yes you play the lottery even though the odds of winning are 1:13,000,000 because the cost of playing is very small, so you may as well do it in the hope of being the lucky 1! So you can't compare that to the odds of something happening which is not a desired outcome, iyswim.

The thing to weigh up with any risk is firstly how would you feel if it materialised. Is it an outcome (having a Down's baby) which you could live with, or think you would not or could not manage? Is it an outcome which is undesirable but manageable? Would you feel able to terminate at this stage if you decided that was the right thing? Answers to these questions are deeply personal but should help guide you towards the right answer.

Sending thoughts and un-mumsnetty hugs your way x

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Sat 23-Mar-13 18:23:14

How exciting Wing - glad you've got some water so HB plans aren't entirely scuppered. Am very very uncomfortable today so am a bit envy that you may have your baby soon, even though I don't really want want miniGuinea to arrive yet.

Good news about your mum Tired, hope she has a speedy recovery.

Congrats on getting to 20 weeks Gary, I remember feeling like I had achieved something when I got half way grin .

Can't remember who on here babywears... but just wondered if anyone has tried a carrier cover? If so any recommendations?

Sending you a small wine Frogs as I think you deserve it with all the worrying. Have you looked at the ARC website btw?

WingDefence Sat 23-Mar-13 18:35:47

Guinea I never wore DS out in the rain apart from with a brolly so can't help you with covers I'm afraid.

No news here although bloody show is still forthcoming. On my 4th panty liner now (I would say TMI but nothing's TMI for us JSer grads!), with a few mini clots last time I went to the loo. I wonder if it'll start overnight or not for a few days? My MW trainee best friend is driving up from Worcs just to see me for the day on Tues so I'd *love* it if she were here for my labour as she's not seen a HB yet!

Oh and water is back on - phew grin

Rockchick1984 Sat 23-Mar-13 21:21:08

Guinea I've never used a cover - front carries I put my maternity coat on and fasten it around us both, or just a normal coat and make sure his hands and feet are inside. We usually both end up roasting hot anyway so no need for too many layers! Back carries I bought Spider-Man tights from H&M for under DS's jeans so no gaps at the top of socks, and wear him over my coat. Oh, and a big golf umbrella for the rain!

WingDefence Sun 24-Mar-13 14:12:22

Hi all - nothing to report here! Had painful BHs all this morning and thought something was starting but back to nothing happening now.

Now just watching Kung Fu Panda with DS and chilling out a bit smile

MrsBri Sun 24-Mar-13 14:21:09

I'll keep my fingers crossed for later on, Wing!

We are spending today watching / videoing my bump moving and bouncing all over the place! DH loves it, bless him. :-)

tiredteddy Sun 24-Mar-13 14:52:41

Hi all and happy weekend to you too.

Wing, hope the bh aren't painful? Enjoy the rest today!

Guinea, I'm joining the ranks of saying that I've used slings with dh's coats over the top and a Bromley in wet weather. I am loving my new ergo it is SO comfortable!

We had friends round for dinner on fri night for DH birthday which was really nice, fern just slept through the event in her rocking seat. Just bought a travel cot as we are have a night away next Friday. We are taking the boys to Bewilderwood in Norwich. It looks amazing.

WingDefence Mon 25-Mar-13 07:57:20

Nothing happening here!

I found an old online journal I used to have around the time I was pg with DS and it looks like I thought my show happened 8-9 days before DS actually appeared hmm which is really making me angry because I'm getting impatient now!

Today I think DH and I are going to pop out for a coffee and then I'm going to go to my village cafe as the lady who owns it and who I know pretty well is the semi-retired MW who said I looked huge at 24 weeks and have me a complex just for a chat.

Hope you all have lovely days planned.

Kittenkatzen Mon 25-Mar-13 10:16:25

Here you are, I lost you all.

frog hope you're doing ok this morning - feeling any clearer about things this morning?

wing how exciting! Ooh if it's 8-9 days then you might actually have an April Fool's baby! My friend is one and she loves it smile

tired I just googled Bewilderwood, it really does look amazing - I want to go!!

gary congrats on 20 weeks! Halfway woop woop!

I think I may have felt a first flutter of movement on the train to work this morning. Could have just been wind though of course! Still, made me feel better after my dad kindly pointed out to me on Saturday that at the moment I don't look pregnant, just fat. Thanks dad!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Mon 25-Mar-13 10:53:26

It's nice to be able to rely on family members for encouraging comments isn't it Kitten! Great news on feeling the baby move smile.

Not too long now Wing. I feel like I have ages to go. Realistically I know that I need the time to get everything prepared - house, work finished, last few bits and bobs for me/baby, and stuff for HB. BUT I am really uncomfortable. I keep getting painful contractions with really bad back ache, but they're very irregular. They seem to be worse at night and when I'm sitting and doing MN and FB work at the computer. It's making it really difficult to concentrate and I just want to be in the bath all the time! Still, this is my last pregnancy so I am determined to enjoy the final few weeks of growing a person...

I went to an active birth class last night at the hospital and it was fab. DH found it really helpful and has said it saved him loads of reading. It also prompted some helpful discussions that need TBC but at least we have more idea about what we agree on and what we don't.

I am currently sitting on my birth ball with the laptop propped up on a tray and numerous pillows to try and avoid working at the desk - if only I could find a way of typing in the bath grin hmm.

Going out for coffee sounds good Wing. Can't wait until I officially finish work and then I can relax and take some time out without feeling guilty. Must get on then, hope you all have a lovely day.

ChildOfThe1980s Mon 25-Mar-13 15:21:34

Active birth classes- they sound interesting. I might have to research that for my area.

I have just started part two of Ina May's book about childbirth, and apparently anxiety can not only slow labour down, it can make your cervix close. Must try to remain as calm as possible- easier said than done of course.

frogchops Mon 25-Mar-13 18:18:09

Hi, have just posted this on another thread so sorry if you've read it!
I think being as I need some help in deciding on amnio or not I'm gona go for a private marker scan to look specifically for downs markers. Markers will sway my decision towards amnio whereas few or no markers will help me deal with the risk (the clinician said it will change my risk score if this is the case) ..,.so altho I can't afford harmony, this is my next best option. I'm also going to ask tht my 20 wk scan is at a diff local hosp, one that has state of the art stuff to detect things and has a specialist ante natal medicine centre.

Rockchick1984 Mon 25-Mar-13 18:20:16

Sounds like a good plan Frog, when can they check for the markers?

frogchops Mon 25-Mar-13 18:23:39

Am going to ask the best time tomorrow rock, it suggests 18 week I think.

Rockchick1984 Mon 25-Mar-13 18:28:02

Would you be able to go through with a termination that late if it turned out positive, or would you just want to be pre-warned? Hopefully there will be no markers anyway so you won't need to worry, but I'm very pro-choice but not sure I could do it once baby was kicking etc. It just seems very late, I think it may be worth seeing if it can be done sooner than that if possible. Hope that doesn't sound insensitive, I don't mean it to!!

frogchops Mon 25-Mar-13 18:33:26

No it's not, I appreciate anyone's views...I am going to ask tht its done at the soonest time possible that will give the best results. I've read 16-17 weeks is possible on their website. I'm 15 weeks on Friday so don't want to hang around too much! Will still discuss with my mw on wed though.

frogchops Mon 25-Mar-13 18:53:20

Oh! Having just got home.... I've had a letter that says my bloods have been rejected due to an error with either the form or the sample. The letter was sent a day before the phone call. I'm sooooo confused. confused

Rockchick1984 Mon 25-Mar-13 19:08:59

Oooh, fingers crossed for a mix-up Frog!

frogchops Mon 25-Mar-13 19:25:32

I really don't need this. I'm guessing its not the downs bloods though, they wouldn't have been able to give me a risk other wise :-(

WingDefence Mon 25-Mar-13 19:58:08

Hi frog

The private test sounds like a good idea. Have you booked it yet or can you wait until after you've spoken to someone tomorrow about the bloomin results? thanks

frogchops Mon 25-Mar-13 20:08:02

I'm calling in the morning about these damn bloods but I won't book test till I've spoken with mw on wed. Think its best I call rather than go to the clinic. I fear for their safety face to face!!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Mon 25-Mar-13 20:21:46

Gosh Frogs I can really understand your confusion. Definitely worth a phonecall to someone senior tomorrow I think. The scan seems like a good idea, a way to decide whether to risk the amnio or not.

The active birth classes were very comprehensive when it came to hormones and the effect anxiety has on them. She really focused on birth environment - although she was very pro-HB, the MW did suggest that if you are not going to birth in your nest (home) then take your nest to the hospital. She recommended taking photos, music, familiar and comforting smells etc. to the hospital to make it as much like home as possible. I thought that was s nice idea.

She also recommended a book called Ecstatic Birth. It's by Dr Sarah Buckley and is available as a free ebook from her website. I read it last night (its only 15 pages long) and well worth a look in my opinion. Can't link to it as I'm on my phone but I found it through Google fairly quickly.
I need to tidy up the dinner things but all I really want to do is get in the bath ... decisions decisions!

Pineapple80 Tue 26-Mar-13 01:46:43

Good luck Frog, sorry to hear you have to go they all this additional stress.

How are you doing Wing? Thinking of you!!

Hope everyone is doing well this week. I'm really looking forward to the long weekend. Spend more time with DH and maybe go away on a day trip. smile

Guinea - I may look up that book you mentioned, thanks!

StuckOnARollercoaster Tue 26-Mar-13 09:52:44

Oh frog have just caught up with the thread and hope you can get some answers today. You must be on a such a rollercoaster of emotions - hopefully you may get some good news today, but if not, keep reaching out for support in real life and here...

Well last workshop at work has been completed - just 3 days of finishing off work left... (As you can see that involves a mumsnet catch up first wink)Feeling very lucky that I am finishing so early. Going to sleep for a week and then spend the next few weeks tackling the house and turn it into a freshly painted nest for us!!!

frogchops Tue 26-Mar-13 10:01:33

Cutting a long story short....it's not downs bloods, its the other 4 bottles that need redoing. The form wasn't filled in right. I have found out that my hcg level was 1.5 and Papp-a was 0.3. It's the Papp-a that's elevated the risk. :-(

WingDefence Tue 26-Mar-13 10:11:46

Frog I won't pretend that I understand that (and I appreciate that was the short version) - does this mean you're back to where you were the other day?

In babywatch news, still nothing happening! In fact, as I've managed to catch up on sleep and not do much in the day since running around doing all my sorting out and organising last week, I actually feel pretty good and not at all like a baby might be arriving soon!

My BF is currently driving up from Worcs to visit me today - I cannot wait to see her! I hope she's brought her MW ear trumpet thingy grin

I've booked us into a nice restaurant for lunch and we might pop over to see my DPs for a cuppa this afternoon but otherwise it's just going to be nice to catch up now we live so far from each other (both from south London and have ended up out in the countryside). smile smile smile

Hope you all have nice days planned , whether you're at work or not, and you aren't worrying too much frog.

Rockchick1984 Tue 26-Mar-13 10:17:01

Frog the HCG is well within normal range then which is fantastic, the Papp-A would be considered normal if it was 0.4 or higher so its not a million miles away from normal! This website explains it fairly simply I think.

Glad you're feeling ok Wing

frogchops Tue 26-Mar-13 10:39:22

I think I might have it wrong....I think the hcg was 2.something, and the Papp-a was 0.3. Making it not so good. It was the nuchal measurement that was 1.5. When I mentioned provate testing, the mw said that nhs could do anything a private clinic could....but I'm not sure. She said the marker scan could be done by nhs at 20 weeks. I'm not sure if it would be as detailed??

Pineapple80 Tue 26-Mar-13 10:52:15

Frog, to give you some perspective my Papp-A levels were 0.09 mom. Making it very, very low... It was also the only factor making my risk 1:21 then. No one can explain why it was so low bit they are monitors me closely now and all is well so far.c not sure if this helps at all bit wanted to to say i know what you're going thru right now. It's so hard. For us the CVS was decided very promptly based on my higher risk. I went to a well known OB here to get my CVS done and was assured they were reputable and do them often (less risk of issues).

Pineapple80 Tue 26-Mar-13 10:56:03

Have a nice day Wing, that is so lovely your bf is coming to visit! smile

WingDefence Tue 26-Mar-13 21:29:48

Hi all - had a lovely day with my BF but am knackered now so I'm in bed and this will be short!

She palpated me this morning and reckons MiniWing's back in on my front left now so I hope she stays that way! She also thought 2/5 engaged I think but I can't remember. I'll see what the MW says in the morning smile

Right, I need my beauty sleep now. Night all (except for Hooya and Pineapple overseas!) smile

Kittenkatzen Wed 27-Mar-13 07:39:47

Is it just me that thinks "palpation" should mean mashing up soft fruit or something, not prodding a pregnant belly?! confusedgrin

WingDefence Wed 27-Mar-13 11:42:08

Well I can see the similarity kitten grin

Had my MW appt today (38+5!) with CrazyMW and yes, MiniWing appears to be more round to the front which is good, and head is fixed but not fully engaged but that's fine second time round and heartbeat was absolutely fine.

My lead MW is back from leave next Wed so I now want to hang on until then! Next MW appt will be with her the week after (two weeks today) as apparently they don't normally do them until 41 weeks now but the MW said she doesn't think leave a pg woman 3 weeks without a check is wise and I agree with that!

I went through my HB box with BF yesterday which was useful to look at all the stuff in there. MW today was in less of a rush (so less crazy than usual to be honest) and we had time for a chat about the third stage, cord clamping etc. i might write that discussion up later as BF and I had a good chat about all that yesterday and there are some things I know I would prefer - looks like I might actually have something to write on my birth plan after all!

This MW is v pro-HB so that made me feel happier if I do get her but I'm expecting not to know the MW (as if I went into hospital) and then if I do know them that'll be a complete bonus.

frog, how are you today? Have you made any more decisions?

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Wed 27-Mar-13 14:04:29

There are some really interesting blogs I've been reading about the 3rd stage of labour and cord clamping. Have you made any decisions Wing? I'm opting for a physiological 3rd stage so clamping the cord will be done when that's done.

Glad they are seeing you sooner rather than later - hopefully you'll have your baby by then though! Good news on the position and engagement - I think miniGuinea has twisted around a bit as I'm not feeling kicks at the front/middle as much.

frogchops Wed 27-Mar-13 16:59:00

Cutting an extremely long story short am possibly in the position to consider harmony testing. I won't bore everyone with how/why and the details you've already read, but now I'm looking for opinions on this and if anyone has/knows of anyone who has had it. :-/

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 27-Mar-13 18:05:41

frog, not had it but wishing you all the luck in the world. xx

Wing, hurrah for birth planning! With DS mine said 'whatever I want at the time' grin

20wk scan went well & it's a boy!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Wed 27-Mar-13 20:44:07

Congratulations GBT. Fab news on positive scan and yay for a boy!

Sorry Frog I can be of no help as I hadn't even heard of the harmony test before someone on this thread mentioned it. Sending you thanks ,brew and biscuit though <-- comfort food.

Good luck on your decision making frog and congrats on the blue scan GBT. I have a blue bump too smile

I'm STILL being sick all the time, and now am 22 + 2 weeks, but at least the daily IV fluids and meds are helping by keeping the dehydration at bay, and allowing me to retain some calories, so I have stopped losing weight.

tiredteddy Wed 27-Mar-13 21:56:16

No idea about the Harmony testing Frog, could you star a thread about it? Someone must have had it on here somewhere?

Waves, nice to see you here. Glad the treatment is at least helping you a bit. I think of you often smile

Gary, a blue bump hooray how lovely!

WingDefence Wed 27-Mar-13 22:15:13

waves, so glad to see you back. Sorry I've been a bit slack at commenting in the other place blush but I've been thinking of you lots.

Gary, congrats on the blue bump! And frog I'm afraid I'd never heard or the harmony test either before it was mentioned on here. Have you thought of starting a separate thread about it?

Guinea, BF and I had a long talk about it yesterday because she went on an interesting MW conference lecture last month in Birmingham and she had been telling me about that (basically about the different types of injections they use for the managed stage should be given at different times and no one seems to know about it).

But then we went on to discuss delayed cord clamping as I saw a thread on here about home births and delayed cord clamping so I wanted to ask her thoughts on having a managed third stage (which I'd prefer, only because I want it over and done with ASAP!) but combined with delayed cord clamping if possible. She said that it is perfectly possible so that's what I'm going to ask for.

But what was interesting was that in the middle of our convo she mentioned that some of the 'more experienced' MWs or complacent older MWs in her hospital give the injection to help the placenta come out once the head's been born i.e. when the baby hasn't even been born yet. She was saying that she'd never do that for a few reasons including undiagnosed twins(!) but also, more seriously, something like shoulder dystocia (where the shoulder gets stuck). If you being the artificial process of expelling the placenta and the baby's not even been fully born, then you can certainly cause problems for the baby if there are any problems between the head coming out and the full birth.

I just took in what she was saying and thought 'yep, makes sense'. So this morning I was discussing having delayed cord clamping for MiniWing but still having a managed third stage and the MW was agreeing but then just dropped into the conversation that "we usually give the injection after the baby's head has been born but we'd wait until the cord has stopped pulsating before we clamp it". Apart from the point that I can't see how a delayed cord clamp really works if they've already give an injection to speed the placenta expulsion, I just thought "nooooo, you are no way giving me the injection before my lovely baby has been born completely 100% safely!!!". shock

I did the right thing by nodding politely and thinking "sod that, I'm definitely putting it in my birth plan that I was a delayed cord clamp and the injection to follow"!

I spoke to BF tonight and as I was explaining this to me she knew exactly what I was going to say and completely agreed that my choice (if I want a managed third stage) was absolutely the right thing to do. She was also impressed that I had just silently nodded agreement like an uninformed person but knew exactly that what she was saying isn't a great idea.

Sorry, that was really long!

In other unwelcome news, a child at DS's preschool came down with chicken pox yesterday and DS hasn't had it so I'm currently really worried that hell come down with it in the next two weeks when the baby has been born as it's really dangerous for newborns sad

I've done a lot of googling and it does seem to make a big difference if I'm immune and I did have it really badly as a child so I'm currently trying to decide whether I sit for ages get an emergency GP appt tomorrow morning for a blood test to see if I'm immune, which I probably am, or whether just to let it take its course and worry about it if DS comes down with it. Even then, the baby might not catch it. I don't know what to do - we had family plans for a day trip tomorrow confused

Kittenkatzen Thu 28-Mar-13 08:10:25

Ooh lots of blue bumps, lovely! smile

Nice to see you back waves glad the treatment is helping a little bit. The constant vomming must be getting beyond tedious now though you poor thing thanks

Interesting stuff on the 3rd stage/cord clamping business, definitely something I need to read up on.

16wks today for me, midwife appt this morning smile

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 09:04:04

Wow, kitten, 16 weeks already?! You're zooming along nicely. :-) 28 weeks today here.

And yes, I need to read more about the cord clamping thing. My best friend (coincidentally a midwife) is visiting on Monday so I'll talk to her about it, I think.

Wing, hope the chicken pox scare gets resolved somehow. Must be difficult for you. And fx MiniWing stays put til your midwife is back :-)

Frog, good luck in whatever you choose to do. I can't imagine what you're going though with all the decision-making. xx

Gary, congrats on the scan and yay for team blue!!

Guinea, Baby B has moved from right to left overnight. Most weird having movement and kicks on the 'wrong' side...he's been on the right for ages! Seems to have given him a lease of life as he's barely stopped this morning. Clearly settling in :-)

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 09:05:21

Oh, I'm rubbish...nice to see you back, waves. I really hope your sickness does one soon. At least the treatment is doing what it can.

StuckOnARollercoaster Thu 28-Mar-13 09:52:05

Hello - its my last day at work today smile

Mrs Bri the movements sound good and impressed that you can feel so well - I can't figure out if I've got a head or a bony bum stuck in my left side!

Kitten I think that's the stage where I started feeling much better and was getting very impatient for the next scan! Bet you can't wait!

Wing it all seems like its getting closer for you - I have also taken on board your cord clamping info and also want to make sure that the managed 3rd stage now doesn't happen till all the pulsing has stopped and the cord is clamped.

Tired how's Fern - we need more photos wink

Waves hang on in there - but glad it seems to be more manageable

Gary does that mean you are going to be hitting the shops now you know your flavour of baby???

Frog really sorry you are going through all this difficulty - I hope you've managed to get some advice about Harmony from people that know about it.

Anyway got a few things to wrap up today at work. Will be quite sad to go - I'm a contractor but I seem to end up in places for ages and have been here for 10 months. That said I can't wait to have some time off - plan for next week is sleep!

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 10:02:04

Stuck...I have absolutely no clue which way round Baby B is! I guess the harder jabs are feet though, as I think legs are stronger than arms? No idea really though!

Hope you get everything sorted with work :-)

tiredteddy Thu 28-Mar-13 10:48:17

Stuck, more photos on FB grin

Pineapple80 Thu 28-Mar-13 11:04:22

Hi all! Just a quick one to say hi and hope all are well.

Baby Pineapple has been doing lots of big rolling, moving, stretching in belly in the last few days! Tummy is making big movements which is funny grin. Kicks were subtle before, compared to them now! MrsBri - that is funny baby B has changed sides & kicks are all opposite now!

Interesting about the cord clamping Wing. I will read up on it too, a friend of mine did mention this to me too.

Beginning of Easter long weekend for us! Looking forward to lot and rest and time spent with DH smile

WingDefence Thu 28-Mar-13 11:36:09

I bet the weather in Oz will be better than it bloomin well is here pineapple - they are predicting a white Easter and freezing temperatures lasting into mid-April! sad

I am pissed off today with DH for various small but annoying reasons.

In other news, having spoken to my DMum, I'm happy that I do have CP immunity and actually I do remember playing a lot with other children who had it because I'd already had it so it was fine. Saved me schlepping in for an emergency GP appt this morning and spending time sitting around playing words with friends twiddling my thumbs in the waiting room.

It gives me an extra incentive to really try with the BFing as then MiniWing will get about 7 days' extra immunity I think. Then if she does get it early on I think the chances are it'll be milder for her.

Of course this is all ignoring if poor DS gets it. I had it really badly apparently (in all orificises, DM said) and if he gets it, I'll be focussing on the baby and I feel guilty already! It wouldn't be the best start for him with a new sister usurping his place in the family as no 1 attention draw, and I'd not be able to look after him 24/7 etc etc.

Still, I know it's all a lot of 'what ifs' - I just pray he doesn't get it this time round... sad

Stuck, enjoy your last day and then Mat Leave woo hoo! MrsBri, even when it is pointed out to me, I have no idea which way MiniWing is lying. Eg right now I reckon it's all different to how she was yesterday but if her head is fixed (a term I'd not heard before as it doesn't mean she's engaged) I don't know if that's possible. One of my other friends had two HBs and the second one took ages as it was an undiagnosed back-to-back labour so that's playing on my mind a bit.

Right, better go x

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 11:36:18

Tired, Fern is gorgeous. And growing so fast!

tiredteddy Thu 28-Mar-13 11:59:55

Thanks mrsbri! She so contented, sleeps like a dream and really smiley. We are all totally in love with her.

Wing, so much to think about but tti not ti worry. Fingers crossed DS doesn't catch cp, if he does then it will hopefully be ok. Maybe miniwing will be late and it won't be an issue? Perhaps you'll be the first mum to wish their baby is late wink

Hooya Thu 28-Mar-13 12:18:09

Hello all, no time to catch up properly sad but just wanted to wish everyone a happy relaxing Easter!

Sorry i havent been around my phone got cut off. The phone company are incapable of correctly setting up a direct debit it seems.

Henry has reflux and is on gaviscon but its not better and his poo.stinks of vinegar so we have been reffered to the peads. Zac is just zac and just turned 14 months.

How is everyone? Any exciting news?

WingDefence Thu 28-Mar-13 18:27:16

Right firstly, do not get your hopes up ladies!

DH and I had a big row at lunchtime (over nothing serious) and I ended up sobbing in a huge hormonal mess for half hour then went and laid down in bed over thinking everything and how I was going to to ruin DS's life and I resented MiniWing already and really didn't want another DC (after always not wanting an only child and trying for her for 18 months etc etc).

I then realised I was a little bit 'damp' but thought I'd wet myself (oh the joys of late pregnancy with a DC2) but it was pink so I kept an eye on it while I stayed in the bedroom and ignored DH and DS rested for an hour but have had to change my panty liner twice now.

On top of this I have had some low period pains and a couple of 'ooh' hmm period pains although not for 25 mins. And I've been feeling MiniWing moving about really low down as if my pelvic floor muscles have been doing odd things all by themselves.

So something may happen, but probably not! I bet I post this time tomorrow and nothing has moved forward!

WingDefence Thu 28-Mar-13 18:28:40

Oh and DH and I are fine now and DS has gone to his end of term disco and a sleepover. smile


WingDefence Thu 28-Mar-13 18:37:54

Haha something - I think I'm just desperately symptom spotting like we all did back in the 2ww!

How long ago that all seems now grin

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 18:42:28

Ooh, indeed, Wing! I'll keep my fingers crosses that baby is on the way! :-)

Kittenkatzen Thu 28-Mar-13 18:50:11

Ooooh come on miniWing, time to come out and meet the world!! Glad you're feeling better wing - sometimes a mini-meltdown is just what we need...like hitting the reset button smile

something poor little Henry, hope they fix up his vinegary bum soon, sounds nasty grin

tiredteddy Thu 28-Mar-13 19:05:06

Ooh fingers crossed something's happening WING, perfect timing too if DS is out on a sleepover. wink

WingDefence Thu 28-Mar-13 19:13:23

Yes it would be good timing wouldn't it! Don't worry all, I'll let you lot know if anything starts occurring properly smile

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Thu 28-Mar-13 19:16:57

Ooo fingers crossed Wing, will be thinking of you - keep us updated. How lovely that you won't need to think about when to go to hospital but can stay in your nest smile .

I'm actually in hospital atm. Started getting contractions today - intense, not painful as such but felt more than Braxton Hicks and lasting longer. I rang the hospital as I'm only 36 weeks and they have decided to keep an eye on me overnight, primarily because my polyhydramnios has got worse (so I'm told) and that carries some extra risks. Been here since 4pm and I'm starving now! Going to go for a wander in search of food soon I think.

tiredteddy Thu 28-Mar-13 20:02:58

Well you must keep us posted too GUINEA, hope miniguinea stays in a little longer and that you are ok x

WingDefence Thu 28-Mar-13 20:05:19

Oh my goodness Guinea! You are in a good place for them to keep an eye on you and MiniGuinea smile Could this turn into a double birth thread...?!

(Nothing happening here though.)

MrsBri Thu 28-Mar-13 20:07:31

Oh, good luck Guinea. I hope everything is OK and baby hangs on in there a bit longer.

Oooo double birth!! I remeber the excitement when my waters broke!

Re henrys reflux the hospital called and henry has an appt on tuesday very impressed as the dr made the refferal yesterday xx

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 28-Mar-13 20:41:42

Good luck Guinea, hope you find some food soon.

Hope something happens overnight Wing, would be hilarious to see your DS's face if he came home from a sleepover to a new baby!

something, that's nice & quick! Hope they can help him.

Stuck, hope you're putting your feet up tonight!

Nothing much happening here, PIL are stealing taking DS for a few nights from tomorrow, usually I throw him at them & look forward to time away to recharge but since getting upduffed I hate the idea of being away from him. hmm

Bought this suit for baby, but not buying anything else new for him!

Gary that suit is cute! My boys were brought big brother and little brother tops

LadyFlumpalot Thu 28-Mar-13 20:52:19


I was on the Just Shagging thread from last November/December after a miscarriage in November. However, my mental health (late diagnosed PND from DS and social anxiety) took a bit of a dive and I took myself off to a quiet corner.

Anyways, found myself pregnant in early January and am now almost 16 weeks!

May I join you?

frogchops Thu 28-Mar-13 21:12:34

Hello lady, you graduated at the same time as me!!! Got my bfp on jan 15th.... So am 15 weeks tomorrow. Welcome! Xx

tiredteddy Thu 28-Mar-13 21:19:24

Something that's great about the quick referral

Gary, really cute suit!

Frog, how are you?

Lady, welcome and congratulations grin

Pineapple80 Fri 29-Mar-13 00:18:06

Thinking of you Wing and Guinea!

Pineapple80 Fri 29-Mar-13 00:25:24

Tired - Fern is so cute!! smile She is filling out lots isn't she? Aww x

MrsBri Fri 29-Mar-13 00:39:24

Gary, that's such a cute suit :-)

Hi Lady, glad you've joined us.

MrsBri Fri 29-Mar-13 00:46:03

Oh, and Baby B has now moved to the middle. Very interesting indeed!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Fri 29-Mar-13 02:20:20

Well, after having a bath and a bit of a sleep I was thinking I was on the home strait and everything had stopped. Now back up to 5 mins apart. MW just sat with me for the last few and says that they're palpating quite hard confused . She's called the Dr. Still could all stop in 10 mins though!

WingDefence Fri 29-Mar-13 03:25:44

Guinea - it's certainly happening here too!

Race you... grin


WingDefence Fri 29-Mar-13 06:56:45

Baby girl born 4:40am before midwife and paramedic could arrive! Bloody fast!!

~ Faith Alexandra, 7lb 5oz. ~

Will update properly later. All fine here although I am in shock grin

frogchops Fri 29-Mar-13 07:02:38

Eeeeeeeeee!! Congratulations wing, beautiful name, hope everything is ok xx

frogchops Fri 29-Mar-13 07:04:53

Come on baby guinea news!!!

MrsBri Fri 29-Mar-13 07:39:30

Wow, Wing, bloody well done! Hope DH was a good midwife! Congratulations :-)

Beautiful name. Can't wait to meet her. xxx

And come on, Guinea, let's go for 2 on one day! :-)

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Fri 29-Mar-13 07:50:03

Congratulations Wing. Beautiful name. Well done you. Glad you're both fine. Can't wait to hear more about it.

No baby here! The contractions keep stopping and starting. Not sure what they're going to do with me ... let me go home hopefully.