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BROOKING NO ARGUMENT! we will be full to bursting with Springtime graduates all preparing for their sneeze births (part 15)

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NewYearNewBoo Thu 28-Feb-13 15:14:26

Thought I would do us a new thread, I have gone seasonal again, but we will be so busy welcoming our new gradustes it will soon fill up, I am Brooking No Argument

ignoring the fact I could be sneezing on this thread

lovely new fresh fred!

TheLittleFriend Thu 28-Feb-13 15:23:58

Well done Boo, marking my place.

Why have you got to have a drip tomorrow Cartoon?

little to zap away my nasty nk cells!
how are you?

Here you go, new thread, new BOO, what do you think ::twirls::?? I thought it was about time, New Year was a while ago after all smile

Cartoon do you have blood tests to make sure the drips are working or is the success of the pregnancy enough to go on?

Little how is it all going?

successful pregnancy is all the proof we need to show that its working.
looking forward too my scan. we had an NHS scan on tues, my midwife booked me an extra slightly early one. I got a bit teary seeing pebble move! its so nice having all these extra scans. if slightly expensive!
just wondering did anyone Not have a nuchal scan?

We had the nt measurement at our 12 week scan, they do it as standard whilst scanning. Along with the blood test results it was very reassuring.

my mw said it was my choice so we're not having it. dh really doesn't want it I was kinda on the fence.

BartletForTeamGB Thu 28-Feb-13 16:40:48

A new thread, excellent!

cartoon, we didn't have NT done with DS because we wouldn't have had invasive testing (because of the miscarriage risk) or a termination regardless of the result. With DD1, her NT was 11.3mm, so they told us the result because it was so bad and we needed referral to fetal medicine. Then it was done automatically as part of my investigations this time with DD2. I imagine if I ever do it again, I would have NT done as part of the many tests we have to have but it would be for risk stratification and we still wouldn't have invasive testing or a termination in any event.

see we figured, it won't change anything. we would never terminate this baby. plus its not a definite answer is it. u could spend months worrying because u got a high risk and then the babies fine. what will be will be.

GreenOlives Thu 28-Feb-13 17:15:40

Hello ladies. Great new thread!
Very tired in the Olives house at the mo, DS2 decided he wanted to feed all night last night and scream his head off if I dared to try and take him off the breast!! The night before we had no sleep as he had that horrible newborn mucous vomiting all night and the night before I was in labour so I am slightly delirious today! Did have 4 hours of sleep this morning as he finally slept after his marathon feeding session! Am hoping milk comes in soon to try and satisfy him! Will post birth story when I have more energy and functioning brain cells - may be 2014! Despite the tiredness we are all elated with our new addition, DS1 is adorable with him, it makes me cry watching them together!

Hello all, joining the brooking for loads of spring grads.

olives, hope your milk comes in later so you can have more sleep. I had DS weighed today and he is 10 lb 14 oz so I am in awe of your DS2 and looking forward to birth story.

cartoon brooking for another lovely scan for you.

Boo, love the new name and new thread.

Afternoon. Just marking place, tho should probably move onto grad thread ...

Whims you don't have to actually move, you could live with us and visit the post grads regularly smilesmile

Olives hope your milk comes in so you can get some rest thanks

Bartlet loves to see you, hope you are all well.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 01-Mar-13 06:28:14

Marking place smile

grin [stdavid][stdavid][stdavid] lovely daffs but I think I preferred last year's red dragon.

sad fail sad


another good scan for me. he says my baby moves a lot! exept I couldn't really see!blush sad maybe my bladder wasn't as full as usual. sad

Yay Cartoon that is brilliant news, done nice and early this time, you didn't have to wait around all day smilesmile

yup had to get up at 5am to get there though! I've been studying my picture. I think pebble is facing down. but that's a completly different position to before. is that possible?

Yeah completely normal, little pebble (love that name) is playing a game of super twister right up until there is no room left for it to move much any more (about now for me)

Withalittlesparkle Fri 01-Mar-13 09:25:06

Face baby will wriggle around and move all the time even though you can't feel it! So even scan baby is likely to be in a different position! They're still so very tiny at this stage!!

feel silly I've had a bit of a cry cos I can't tell what's what's what. but the more I look the more I can see. Mr s is very quick with his scans hopefully ill get a better look on Wednesday at my NHS scan. thanks for reassuring me.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 01-Mar-13 17:38:02

Give it a couple more weeks and you'll be able to see everything so much clearer

Withalittlesparkle Sat 02-Mar-13 10:28:38

Today we're mostly conforming to gender stereotypes in the sparkle household! Mrsparks has gone to the tip with a wave of his hand declaring he was "off to do manly stuff" while I'm at home doing the housework! Something I'm actually enjoying more now!!! I assume its the whole nesting thing kicking it!

BartletForTeamGB Sat 02-Mar-13 12:59:05

sparks, make sure that you do your hair and your make-up before he gets back so you are all pretty and housewifely! wink

We conform to gender stereotypes very happily in the Bartlet household. It is definitely DH's job to put out the bins!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 02-Mar-13 15:27:07

Bartlet I was dressed when he got home, that's surely more than he should expect?

GreenOlives Sat 02-Mar-13 16:38:15

Right, the milk monster is sleeping so I'll try and get my birth story written!

So Monday morning I had stretch and sweep number 3 at 40+1 - midwife wasn't very hopeful as cervix still "unfavourable" but she gave it her best shot. I had a tiny amount of spotting just afterwards but nothing else. Picked DS up from school in the afternoon and had just got home and go to the loo for a wee when I heard and felt a "popping" and waters broke on the loo. Kept trying to get up but was loads more waters kept coming so DS brought me the phone so I could ring DH and my mum. Eventually was able to get up and get a pad on and gave labour ward a ring. They advised to watch for signs of infection and ring them back once contractions started and became regular.

I decided I needed to fuel up so was making a hearty dinner when I had a call back from a midwife on labour ward. They had looked at my notes from DS's birth and decided they wanted to check me over at AAU so DH and I headed down there after I'd had my dinner grin Had started to have some irregular contractions at that point and they just checked me over, listened to baby and advised me to go home and try and rest.

I did attempt to sleep when I got home but contractions were too painful so I spent the evening bouncing on my ball with my Tens machine on (really rate the Tens machine!) By midnight the contractions were quite regular and painful so we headed back down to labour ward. Once there I was devastated to be told that the contractions were doing bugger all, as I was only 2cm dilated (same as when I'd had my sweep that morning!) And to top it all a waterbirth would be out of the question as the birth pool had been condemned by infection control due to rust on the taps!! I felt really despondent and thought that it was going to be a repeat of DS1's mammoth labour!

We went back home and back to the bouncing - it was a long painful night and it was difficult to relax as my mum and stepdad were in the spare room as DS really didn't want to go to theirs so I couldn't go in the bath as it is right next to their room. I was really glad when they took DS off to school Tues morning so that it was just DH and I and I jumped straight in the bath!

By 11.30 I felt I couldn't cope with the pain much longer and was contracting every 3 mins so back to the hospital we went. I was examined at 12.20 and was still only 4cms - again I felt so despondent that everything was so slow and I was saying to DH that I felt I would need an epidural if there was still hours to go!

Anyhow - it all changed very quickly after that! Baby's heart rate had dropped massively during the examination (I'd had a really big contraction at the same time) so they wanted to keep the monitor on. I walked from the assessment room to the labour room they allocated for me and the contractions began coming almost continuously. Baby was very distressed during contractions and heart rate kept dropping, ended up with lots of panic and people in the room and talk of theatres being prepared. Then they put a scalp probe on DS and realised that all the distress was because things had progressed so quickly and I was 8-9cms shock I was away with the fairies using gas and air at that point and before I knew it I was ready to push. 20 minutes later and my beautiful big boy had arrived! I did need an episiotomy to get his head out which did tear slightly more too but they were very afraid I would have ended up with a much worse tear had they not intervened. I still can't quite believe that there was no shoulder dystocia this time as he is even bigger than DS1 but he was apparently in textbook position - clever boy! grin Can't remember if I said on here but they initially converted his weight slightly wrong so rather than 10lb 14oz he was in fact 10lb 15oz! (4.97kg) shock My midwife was really chuffed as it's the biggest baby she's ever delivered!

I am definitely experiencing the elation that you other ladies have talked about - he is absolutely perfect and I feel so blessed to have 2 fabulous boys and a wonderful DH (who was an absolute star during labour!) It's making me all teary now just writing it down! I am still knackered as T is definitely a night owl at the mo and my lady bits are VERY sore but it is sooo worth it for the end result! I have told DH that we are sticking to 2 though, I dread to think what size a 3rd might be!

Wow, what a mammoth post, hope you're all still awake by the end of it!

Wow Olives he was a bit of a slow starter but was certainly in a rush by the end. I am so pleased to hear a positive birth story of a larger baby, it gives me hope smilesmile hope you and your boys are all settling in and hope your lady bits feel better soon thanks well done.

Fab birth story Olives! Well done again! Did I say that DS weighs 10lb 14oz at 9 weeks! you're a superstar. Enjoy these early weeks, they go so fast smile

Great story olives. I was just chatting with a friend about how great it was being a mother of boys (the conversation started off being about eating lots of pudding...) and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

<<wanders off feeling a bit teary herself>>

GreenOlives Sun 03-Mar-13 08:28:04

P.s Almost forgot to say that because I had a "normal" birth this time we were allowed a 6 hour discharge so we were all back at home by 9.30pm! smile (with a McD's for sustenance!) grin

TheLittleFriend Sun 03-Mar-13 08:32:20

Great birth story Green, you did an amazing job. How are you getting on now?
(And aren't 6 hour discharges great!)

BeedlesPineNeedles Sun 03-Mar-13 08:36:36

I'm not sure I've actually said congratulations yet olives or maybe I should be saying ouch. Ddi you know he wa going to be big?

GreenOlives Sun 03-Mar-13 14:48:22

boo Your birth will be a breeze, you've delivered a big un before with no prob so Im certain you can do it again! grin

gen I know that time is going to fly past so quick, it would be lovely to have a pause button to make these precious moments last a while longer. smile

whims Boys are great - FACT! grin

little Things are going great so far. T is feeding well and seems very content. He is nosier at night and more difficult to settle but I think that's maybe because its so quiet compared to daytime. We are going to try using white noise tonight to see if that helps as DH and I could do with some more sleep!! DS1 is being really great with him and he's loving being mummys little helper so long may that last! Midwife came today for 5 day check, all good with me, uterus almost back to normal shock Shame the rest of my stomach isn't! And lady bits healing ok although bloody sore still! Thomas has lost 6% of his birth weight but apparently 8-10% is acceptable so that's fine. smile How are things going with you?

beedle Thanks for congrats. We did know that it was likely to be a big baby as DS1 was 10lbs and growth scan showed a fairly big baby but he was still bigger than their predictions!

Hi ladies, quick fyi, lanisoh nip cream is £6.65 in the boots baby event smile

We had a voucher to use up (old birthday present I forgot about) so we now have all sorts of disposable nasties for me and some bits for booby smile

shock just seen an advert for an album to buy for mothers day titled Music for Cooking, comes complete with 8 new recipes. Next advert was a 'perfect mother's day gift' of a rotating hard skin buffer for feet sad I told DH not to even think about it! gift wrapped David Tennant is all I need grin

HELLLOOOOOOOOOOO <echos> I feel so lonely over here sadsad I will just have to update myself then grin

I had a growth scan and chat with my consultant today. Booby is looking big, over the top line of the growth chart on my notes. My consultant has agreed that if it is still on the same line (or has gone up shock) at my next scan in 3 weeks then I can start to have sweep and stretch done at 37 weeks to prepare my cervix for a medical induction (unless I sneeze from the sweeps of course) She also agreed with me that if the baby is looking that big, I definitely will not be left to 40 weeks. So that is my news, 6 weeks left and we start to encourage this bloody massive little one out

Withalittlesparkle Mon 04-Mar-13 17:44:30

Boo looks like a big baby is on the cards then? 6 weeks will actually fly by!!!

BartletForTeamGB Mon 04-Mar-13 19:36:18

Boo, my big baby left me with only a graze and has been fantastic at BFing. Unfortunately last night, she didn't really settle at all and DH and DS both have high temperatures and are miserable so it has been a bit of a struggle today. Tomorrow can only be better...

Rationally I know I can part with a lovely chunky monkey, and 6 weeks until we get to be proactive and make a start at it ain't long smilesmile I have been frantically making lists today of what is left to get and what db has in storage that I need to bring over and wash, also my bag list has started. If I don't report back in 5 weeks that I have done everything on my lists please feel free to kick my arse grin

Oh Bartlet I posted too soon, I meant to add I really hope DH and DS feel better tomorrow, also that they keep what ever it is to them selves and don't pass it on to you and DD! Hope you get to have some sleep thanks

SweetieTime Mon 04-Mar-13 20:17:16

Olives fantastic birth story. And what a lovely picture of bedtime story telling with your boys you have posted on fb. Love it, you must be very proud.

<waves to everyone else>

GreenOlives Mon 04-Mar-13 20:36:36

Aww thanks sweetie, I am indeed one very proud mummy! grin
boo We brookers are definitely churning out some larger babies aren't we?! Although I needed the episiotomy I didn't even notice it at the time and its healing really well at only 6 days post partum smile And you never know, maybe booby won't be measuring quite so big at the next scan! hmm

bartlet Hope DS and DH get better soon.

DS1 was up in the night with a temp and now he's all snotty and coughing bless him and Im so worried about DS2 catching it as DS1 loves kissing and hugging him and I don't want to tell him not to do that confused DS2 did great last night, just woke twice for feeds at 12.30 and 3.30 but we were up with DS1 being poorly! Fingers crossed for well children and husbands! grin

Withalittlesparkle Tue 05-Mar-13 13:19:42

Hmmmmm to spend more money on maternity clothes or not? New look have a sale and I'm rather obsessed/in love with my maternity wardrobe!!!

I would Sparks I wish I had a few more bits to wear, but at this stage I'm reluctant to buy anything new could be tempted by a sale though!

treat yourselves!

Frootloopz Tue 05-Mar-13 15:32:19

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Hi Froot lovely to hear from you. Only 4 weeks, wow!! I have been putting off wondering about my birth plan, I have time to put it off some more to wait grin

I have been having really big problems with my hips too, the mw has referred me for physio, hope you carry on enjoying your mat leave.

GreenOlives Tue 05-Mar-13 18:49:26

sparks I vote treat yourself too! grin

Nice to see you froot Glad you are making the most of relaxing on your mat leave. I did bullet points for my birth plan - it was more like a list of things I would like and things Id like to avoid. And I didn't get round to doing mine until 39 weeks so you've got plenty of time to put it off to crack on with it boo! grin

Hey Sparks did you spend on new clothes??

We are a bit quiet on here aren't we??

so I had my 12week scan today. after deciding not to have nt done we were advised to have it as the sonographer noticed excess fluid. the measurement was 3.8mm. sad

Oh Cartoon what did they say/advise? I know the measurement can be backed up with a blood test.

I'm sure a brooker with more experience will be along, for now have {{{{hugs}}}}

they took my bloods now just have to wait for the results. I don't really know much about it. especially since we went in there having decided not to have it so I'm confused as why she checked the measurement anyway. I don't really know what if anything happens now.

I think she must have seen that many of them by now that if she noticed it she would want to measure it. I'm sure they will wait for the blood test results and take it from there.

I'm just a bit suprised. I have no idea whether this means it will come back as high risk or not. what is it they look at in your blood. will the fact that I'm 27 bring the risk down a bit?

Hi Cartoon, sorry to hear you're worried about the NT result. Please bear I'm mind that you shouldn't try to interpret the measurement in isolation, it should be based on your age and the blood result too, so I am brooking that the overall result will say toony is low risk. Brooking for you all!

TheLittleFriend Wed 06-Mar-13 21:22:45

Sorry you've had yet more worry Cartoon. I hope you get some reassuring advice , but sorry I have none to offer. Brooking for you though x

Withalittlesparkle Wed 06-Mar-13 21:40:01

No to the new clothes, ran out of time at work, so going to do a bit of Internet shopping at the weekend!!

face hard not to worry but you really have to try and relax! You'll be contacted if something is wrong, or if everything's ok you'll just get a letter saying your risk levels! But as already said you can't interpret the risk on thickness alone you need to wait for the blood results to come back and then they consider your age, family history etc etc

Watching one born every minute now! Day dreaming what my labour is going to be like I'm ordering a nice pain free blood free one!!!

Ooh I watched that too Sparks I would like the first birth please, 4cm to birth before the commercial break will do me nicely smilesmile

surely really with my age and no family history, either side there's a good chance it will come back as low risk.
its just this worry was the exact reason we didn't want it done. but obviously the thickness was enough she felt she had to tell us and then really didn't leave me much choice about the blood test. the way the were looking at us and speaking to us was like we were being told someone had died which makes it worse. I wish I didn't know, even though really I don't know anything yet. the fact that they've spotted something will cause me to worry the whole time now no matter what the result says, from what I've been able to find out it can be very inaccurate.
I'm a bit annoyed that I was left with no choice but to have the test done.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 07-Mar-13 07:17:12

Boo I was completely unaware that labour had commercial breaks!!

Face you'll be fine! Remember Nuchal thickness is only an indication anyway, people results vary wildly ladies on my thread have had 1 in 500, mine were 1 in 10,000! You honestly can't tell anything until you get your letter! Did she take more than one measurement?! Cus I know when they did mine they measured twice and there was quite a difference!! It'll be ok, try to focus on the fact you've reached the 12 week mark, that's a huge milestone!!

From what (limited knowledge) I know, the blood test is more accurate than the measurement, but like you said your age is also taken into account, I know it's a worry, they should be in touch with the results soon.

grin of course sparks, 3 minutes break every 20 mins or so otherwise it would be very hard work indeed wink

Lovely new non-Christmassy thread Boo. How big do they reckon Booby is going to be then?

Great birth story Olives, you did amazing! I hope DS1 is feeling bett today. Our house has been lurgiefied for a couple of weeks with one thing and another. I'm always telling DS to stop kissing DD when one of them seems snotty but it's pointless, he can't leave her alone.

Brooking for your DH and DS to get well soon Bartlet

Sorry to hear you're having to worry about the NT measurement Cartoon. I'm afraid I have no knowledge, but I do know that the measurement alone is not usually a cause for alarm. Too one of the post-grads who still posts on the post-grad thread had a high NT measurement for her DD and the full results did come back as 1 in 10 so she opted to have an amino. Obviously this was extremely worrying for her and her DH. The amino showed that the baby didn't have any problems at all so even with those results everything can still be absolutely fine. Pop over to the post-grad thread if you'd like to know more, I'm sure she'd be happy to explain anything. I don't think she reads this one any more.

thanks for all the kind words. I know I shouldn't be getting all in a state before I get my result. I think its the shock. is it usual that all they tell u there and then is the measurement?
scarlett thanks I shall post over there

BartletForTeamGB Thu 07-Mar-13 09:54:19

Oh dear, cartoon. I hope everything is okay and they get the results to you quickly.

scarlet, thanks. Both DH and DS have both recovered so it is just me and DD at home this morning, so I am enjoying a lazy morning tucked up in bed and lots of newborn snuggles.

I have an appointment this afternoon to see the screening midwife, who I should have seen yesterday. so hopefully ill get a bit more info.

Oh good luck with that cartoon write down your questions, it is so easy to get overwhelmed by information at these things that you forget everything.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 07-Mar-13 11:59:42

Face they didn't even tell me my measurement which I thought was really odd but I saw it on the screen! First thing I did when I got home was google it!!! So hard not to worry

for once Dr goggle hasn't scared me much there's a lot of positive story's. I find it strange that all she told me was a measurement. especially when I hadn't wanted this information.

Frootloopz Thu 07-Mar-13 14:27:05

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Withalittlesparkle Thu 07-Mar-13 14:33:08

frootz can you book an appointment with a different midwife? Just so you can get double triple checked. She shouldnt be making assumptions, not at this stage!!!

Frootloopz Thu 07-Mar-13 14:43:59

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Hi Froot I'm glad you have another appointment tomorrow but I would be very tempted to call her on her mistake or at very least speak to another mw and make it clear what she has done. That is shocking at this stage!

*Cartoon' hope you are ok with your appointment.

musicalmrs Thu 07-Mar-13 16:59:43

Cartoon, thinking of you, and hoping everything's ok. I can't offer any better advice than anyone here has, but I'm sure they'll get back to you quickly. In the meantime, I know waiting is the hardest bit, so try to keep yourself busy. I didn't have a large measurement, but did have a lot of early bleeding, and I know waiting for the blood results each time was hellish.

Frootz, I found a few little 'white lies' on my notes as well - but nothing like that. Bizarre about the 2/5 palpated...

I watched that OBEM this afternoon. Love it, I'm such a addict. Is it sad that I really enjoyed labour?!

Looking forward to some more snuggly newborn brookers - who's next to pop? I'm guessing it's Boo and Booby?

well it seems to be worse than we thought. not only is the fold measurement over what it should be there is also other excess fluid. two different things she said but both are around the neck area. she didn't give me much hope of a positive out come made it seem like its more than likely there will be something wrong. she said its most likely my results will come back as high risk.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 08-Mar-13 06:25:03

Oh face I'm sorry to hear that but lets wait for the proper results to come through before we panic too much! Even a high risk baby can still be born complete normal! Flip your risk, a 1 in 10 risk means you have a 9 in 10 chance of having a normal baby!

Withalittlesparkle Fri 08-Mar-13 06:26:15

Oh, back ache at night?! How can I make it better? It wakes me up!!! But then so do the terribly horrible dreams!!

oh Sparks back ache is no fun. have you tried supporting it with a spare pillow? I have one between my knees and under bump so I stay in a good position. You can also have paracetamol to help?

Cartoon I agree with Sparks I know it is hard, but let's see the actual results then work from there. thanks it could be that they are erring on the side of caution and you may have only a medium risk??

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 08-Mar-13 07:32:38

cartoon sorry to hear that you're still having a stressful pregnancy. I'm brooking that mini-cartoon is just preparing you for the next 18+ years of worrying about him/her cos that's what parents do, not because there's anything wrong. How long do you have to wait for the combined result?

beedle she seemed to think that I would get a phone call either today or Monday with the result.
sparks that's a much better way of looking at things.
the screening midwife has absolutly terrified me. I know she has to give us all the information but my god.
talking about Edwards and patau which I knew nothing about. she made it clear that babies can't always live with some of these things. why am I being told all this when my results aren't even back yet.

GreenOlives Fri 08-Mar-13 09:17:47

cartoon Just echoing what the others have said, try not to worry until you have the full facts. Unfortunately I think its fairly common for us medical types to dwell on the worst case scenario but as sparks said even a 1 in 10 means a 90% chance of a healthy baby. Sending big hugs your way. thanks

I have just realised I have not answered a couple of posts blush

Musical Froot is next about 4 weeks then it is my turn smile

Scarlet they are measuring booby as just above the 95th centile for head and abdominal circumference shock the Dr I spoke to about my diabetes said he thinks I had it last time but it didn't show on the tests. Toddly boo weighed in at a healthy 10lb 3.5oz (full term) and this one is similar but I am likely to be induced at 38 weeks so perhaps it won't have the same high birth weigh [hopeful emotion]

Cartoon brooking you get your call today and you can start getting the correct information.

thanks olives
I'm confused by this other fluid she kept talking about hopefully the consultant who will rescan me on Mon will explain better.
just been told Fil needs an op for a cancerous tumor in his bladder. things seem to be going from bad to worse x

BartletForTeamGB Fri 08-Mar-13 11:34:55

cartoon, I am not going to be able to say much reassuring as things ended rather sadly for us (although DD1's NT was 11mm so much, much greater) but I can say that I know how you feel & the questions you must have. Sending you lots of hugs. I really hope the consultant can be reassuring on Monday. Sorry to hear about your FIL as well. You are having a really hard time.

bartlett I'm so sorry to hear that. I still feel there's so much I don't understand. no phone call as yet from the hospital. apparently they phone pretty quick if your high risk.
considering the harmony test but will wait until I have seen the consultant on Monday.
I am starting to lose faith that pebble will be our take home baby.

1in40 is my risk. so actually better than I thought. but what is skin oedema? is it hydrops?

Withalittlesparkle Fri 08-Mar-13 17:38:10

So 39 in 40 that baby is fine! Lets see what the consultant says. Will you pursue further testing?

Oedema is swelling of the skin, water rentention type thing I think! Most preggos get it at some point!!

my sonographers report says skin oedema around the fetus, sorry should have put that.
but yes sparks that result was not as bad as I thought it might be. she said the bloods were all fine and it was just the measurement that had made it high.

1 in 40, that's not too bad, that's a 97.5% chance of pebble not having it smile do you have any further tests to investigate the odema?

boo that makes it sound miles better. we have an appointment first thing Monday with a fetal medicine specialist so will see what they say.
I'm not 100% but It could be quite a bad thing. I think ds might be the least of our worrys.

Of course, your FIL too, when does he have his surgery?? How is DH coping?

And Erm, did you say DS?? wink

Hang on, stupid alert, you mean DS for downs syndrome, I thought for a sneaky mo someone had seen something.

haha I did wonder if I might confuse you with that abbreviation!
I think dh is ok considering, he's good at hiding his emotions though. fil hasn't heard yet when the op will be, I'm guessing soon though.

Withalittlesparkle Sat 09-Mar-13 07:16:18

Face forgot to say sorry about your FIL! They won't keep him waiting long though!

My Nan is back in hospital as well! So stressful but I'm under much stricter instructions to share responsibility with my family so I can get some rest time in, rather than going and and forth to the hospital every day

sorry bout ur nan sparks. I'm sure fil will be fine, his doc didn't seem to worried.
im not even sure anymore whether to tell more people I'm pregnant or not.
I ordered some mat jeans which Im going to pick up today but I wish I hadn't got them.

Cartoon don't think like that, wait for Monday and speak to the specialist. I know it must be so hard but pebble is with you now, each day at a time eh?! thanks

Sparks brooking for your Nan, is it the same as last time?? And do let other people help out too. You need to take care of you and twinkle. thanks

just had my hair cut, I've known her for years we used to work together. she asked whether we were thinking about children any time soon and all I said was you never know sad . I had been looking forward to telling her and a couple if other friends

Oh that must have been so hard for you, I'm so sorry you're having to go through all this. Have you and DH got some RL support?

we have my family close by, but my mum is very upset.

I feel sicky today and have had lower back ache all day. its like pebble is saying 'hey, I'm still here you know'

Aaw, pebble is just saying hiya in the only way it knows how. Booby does it with a foot to my ribs grin

ah bless! its quite a nice reassurance is it.
in the aid of positive thinking and Brooking spirit I brought pebble the cuddly rabbit I've had my eye on.

Good on ya' Toon!

good lord I've just tryed on my mat jeans I have not been that comfortable in weeks! I think I shall wear them forever

Hahaha, bliss isn't it grin you have to re measure your boobs next and treat them to a new bra, you think you know comfort now ..............

You seem happier, I am happy about that! Just keep talking to us, I have no real experience to pass on, but will hold your hand.

bras were last week, have gone up 2 cup sizes! I wasn't ready for the none wired proper maturnity ones yet I'm putting that off as long as poss.
we are off to the cinema tonite to watch oz.

I'm glad your here boo

Ooh, I really want to see oz, but found at my mahoosive girth size, sitting still during Les Mes a few weeks ago was uncomfortable sad I am now making a dvd list and pre ordering everything on love film!

And on the subject of bra's, I miss wires, I really do, I always relied on wires to hold the girls up, non wire does nothing for me sad

how annoying! I find the cinema uncomfortable at the best of times though so I'm not suprised. most films come to DVD quite quickly now, don't they luckily.

And you don't have to pay through the nose for pop corn and a drink!! And you can pause it for a pee! I still love the cinema though

the whole thing is mega expensive, but its nice to get out and there is just something about watching a film on the big screen. we might even eat out too!

Ooh yes, treat yourselves to a date night!!

we may as well try and be normal and enjoy this weekend as it may be the last one in a while depending on how Monday goes.

There will certainly be a lot of information to take on board on Monday, try to remember this doesn't necessarily mean the worst, it may just mean that it won't be as easy as you first thought.

Hey all, quick question, I never really had BH's with toddly boo so not sure if that's what this is. My bump feels quite tight and hard and I feel my breath being taken away a little (like I want to take bigger breaths for a moment or two) they don't hurt, it is more like a painless cramp and tightening. Are these the BH's or just perhaps booby stretching and moving now it has less room? It is happening more and more.

Also going to pop this on post grads later cos you have all gone and left me

Hope you're all having a lovely mother's day.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 10-Mar-13 10:32:05

I have no idea boo

I feel miserable as anything today! I can't even be bothered to get out of bed! We've been asked not to go to the hospital as my nan doesn't feel well enough for visitors sad and the curry I had last night is making me feel dreadful!!!

Oh Sparks poor you thanks do they know what is wrong with your Nan? Hope she starts to feel better soon. Enjoy your duvet day (me and toddly boo are still in our Jim jams grin) hope your curry doesn't punish you too much.

am also still in bed here!
sparks hope you recover quickly from the curry.
boo have no idea if that's what they are.
how many weeks are you both now?
how many preggos do we have left? doesnt seem to be many people about.

Hiya Toon I'm 32 weeks now smile there are a couple of us about, I think the list goes -

Froot - 4 weeks ish
Boo - 6 weeks or so (depending on induction dates)
Sparks next after me
Toon who WILL be after Sparks!!

But it is very quiet on here these days, our grads are all in baby bliss (jealous, me?? grin) I think this is the quiet before the storm, these are so many assisted BFP's on the way from the ttc's thread we will be full again soon.

aren't keep and ummmm solars? very imminent?
I forgot to say my due date, with everything. they put me forward 2 days, so back inline with my lmp. so due 17th Sept.

We have Keep who is any day now, Scarlet not far behind at all, Maybe, Solars and Sweetie within weeks of them and Geek and Beedle who should be hearing about their dates any time as well smilesmile I have even possibly missed someone out as there are so many getting their BFP's.

Pleased your dates have worked out, the 12 week scan really is the most accurate for dating.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 10-Mar-13 11:50:40

Keep is waiting to here how her embys are developing and I think Scarlett is having egg collection done on Monday! Then bundles of other appointments coming up soon!!

I'm 25+2 so due in about 15 weeks, but I have it in my head that I'm going over by a week!!

Right so we have -

Froot - 4 weeks ish
Boo - 6 weeks or so (depending on induction dates) 
Sparks in 15 (possibly 16) weeks
Toon who WILL be after Sparks on the 17th Sept
Then all the new grads smilesmile

TheLittleFriend Sun 10-Mar-13 15:53:47

Just popping in to say I'll be thinking of you tomorrow Cartoon, I hope it is a positive appointment.

Boo, what you describe sounds just like bh, I got loads. They started at 17wks with ds!

Ooh, actual BH's grin I am unnaturally excited by this, it makes it feel like things preparing for a big sneeze smile

Cartoon brooking for you tomorrow. Take a note book, and remember they will explain it all 3 times over if you need them to. Make sure you ask everything you want and no question is too daft!

No need to go wire free in bras when pregnant, just make sure you are in the correct size i.e. not fitted by m&s etc and you will be fine. MN specialise in online bra fittings nowadays smile

Cartoon everything will be fine I'm sure.

Boo are you on the raspberry leaf yet?

I did see you mention the wired nursing bra's a while ago Rubber I am going to seriously investigate those when feeding is established (toddly didn't take it at all so I'm not hanging my hopes on this one too much)

Not on the raspberry leaf yet but I am on my new gym ball as often as I can wink This baby will be ready for a quick induction!!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 11-Mar-13 07:22:12

Oh god the back ache is just making me want to die!!! I had such a horrid nights sleep. No amount of pillow wedging made and difference at all, largely because I had to keep rolling round to get comfortable

Now this morning I've woken up with a severe hives outbreak (potench stress related) largely around my mouth which is making everything really uncomfortable!!

Oh and the worry about my Nan... We find out today what's actually wrong with her but it was all rather worrying over the weekend!

At what point do I actually enjoy being pregnant?!!!

so bloody scared sad

Oh Sparks you poor thing. When is your appointment with the dermatologist? Though if it is stress related I'm not surprised you have it again now.

I think it might be a good idea to speak to your mw about a physio referral for your back, they did wonders with mine and I go back on Friday to start physio for my hips (I'm saying it's my hips thought it's looking much more like pgp)

I really hope your Nan is found to have something that can be quickly and easily treated. Please be kind to yourself thanksthanks

Toon I am thinking of you this morning, I hope you get some answers and reassurance. Good luck, report back when you can thanksthanks

Hoping all the new post grads really got spoilt yesterday, mother's day with newborn snuggles and breakfast made by toddlers and daddys with added chocolate for all!

Not much to report here, me and booby are just waiting for our next scan in 2 weeks, that's when I think we will start to decide on the plans for delivery.

Oh x post Toon I'm holding your hand today thanks I really hope for positive next for you. {{{{{Hugs}}}}}

GreenOlives Mon 11-Mar-13 08:10:29

Thinking of you today cartoon and brooking no argument that pebble will be just fine thanks

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Mon 11-Mar-13 10:25:45

Cartoon, so sorry to hear your news. I'm sorry I haven't seen your posts before today. Brooking really hard for today's appt to be good news, although they may not be able to tell just yet. If it helps, my story is that DD2's nuchal score was actually done at 13+5, so the very last day it is possible to do. They thought I was only 12 weeks but put my dates forward at the scan. I don't remember the actual number, but I think it was above 3. 3.2, maybe? It was the combined result with the blood test that gave me the high-risk score - my PAPP-A score was bad. I was only 28 and still came out with a score of 1:10 overall. The hospital handled the notification really badly, which didn't help - left a voicemail asking me to call them (no other info), but by the time I picked it up it was after 4pm and they were shut, so I called Triage in a panic and eventually someone called me back who said 'I can see from your notes that you have a score of 1:10, is that what you want to talk about?' hmm Anyway, to cut a long story short, we opted for an amnio at 16 weeks. The waiting was horrendous. sad The procedure itself was not so bad - I could see DD on the screen and you could see the needle approaching her amniotic sac, but she was quite happy even when the needle went in. I felt much calmer after seeing her, weirdly. The hospital told us it would take 3-5 days to get the results, but they actually called me the very next afternoon to say that DD was okay - she didn't have DS or Edward's or Patau's. I got the more detailed results by phone a couple of weeks later, including the sex. I didn't have any symptoms at all after the amnio - no cramping/bleeding or anything. Fast forward 18 months and DD is a year old, bright and beautiful! I really hope it's the same for you. I'll be watching for your updates and if there's anything else I can do just ask.

pebble died. can someone tell the other brookers.

I will, I'm so sorry

BeedlesPineNeedles Mon 11-Mar-13 10:41:46

cartoon I'm so so sorry to hear that, ((((hugs)))) to you and MrCartoon

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Mon 11-Mar-13 11:24:58

I'm so, so sorry, cartoon.

TheLittleFriend Mon 11-Mar-13 11:34:58

I am so very sorry for your loss Cartoon thanks

Withalittlesparkle Mon 11-Mar-13 11:44:14

Oh face I'm so sorry for your loss xxx

Stacks Mon 11-Mar-13 12:01:51

Oh Cartoon so sorry to hear your news. I'm crying just imagining how you're feeling. I hope you're getting lots of love and support from your family and friends just now. [hugs]

BartletForTeamGB Mon 11-Mar-13 13:06:01

Oh, cartoon. I am so very very sorry for you and your husband. I hope you are able to spend some time together off work over the next few days. Do come back and chat if you would like to. A number of us have lost babies so would be very happy to listen and chat. Whether or not you want to chat, we all send our love and hugs and will be here whenever you want.

keepitgoing Mon 11-Mar-13 13:33:10

Oh cartoon I'm so so sorry xxxx

musicalmrs Mon 11-Mar-13 13:58:31

Cartoon, I'm so so sorry. Thinking of you and your husband.

So very sorry for your loss Cartoon.

Oh cartoon I am thinking of you and MrToon, I'm so very sorry for your loss xxx

sorry if i repeat my self or anything in this post. im starting from the begining as i plan to post this on all 3 brooking threads. so as most of you know we had 2 early missed miscarriages last year. we saw mr shehata privately for tests and was told i had very high natural killer cells. i was on his treatment plan for this pregnancy. it got us further than ever before. we had several early scans and things seemed to be going well. i was just starting to relax and have faith that our baby was finally coming. at our nhs dating scan on wed we were told pebble had a raised nuchal measurement and there was other excess fluid. our nt results came back very quickly with a 1:40 risk. we had an appointment today with a fetal medicine consultant to find our more info and have a more detailed scan to start looking into what problems pebble may have. but sometime over those last few days pebbles heart stopped beating. they found that there was no nasal bone and there was also a lump like a hernia in the stomach.
they have took bloods from us both for testing and will do testing on pebble. we have requested (hoping) that they will be able to tell us the sex.
i am booked in for an erpc first thing tommorrow. part of me is grateful i am still at a stage where they can do this. i am also grateful for the fact that nature decided this and it wasnt a decision we had to make, if you see what i mean.

GreenOlives Mon 11-Mar-13 17:57:22

So sorry to hear of your terrible loss cartoon Sending you lots of love & hugs.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 12-Mar-13 07:18:09

I hope everything goes ok today face

Thinking of you today Cartoon hope you and DH have plenty of support. X

GreenOlives Tue 12-Mar-13 09:34:04

Hope everything goes smoothly today cartoon Thinking of you and DH thanks

Withalittlesparkle Tue 12-Mar-13 13:59:54

I feel bad moaning considering what face is going through but I feel rubbish today! Woken up with a dreadful cold!

Oh Sparks is there any chance you can have a couple of days off to relax, you really sound under the weather at the moment? How are the hives and your back doing?

I was a bit tearful myself this morning, I had a fall in the ice last night, booby is fine, actually booby made its feelings about falling quite clear for most of the evening (not a happy booby). Then this morning at diabetic clinic they started me on insulin sad so I had a good old cry (in the clinic with the lovely nurse blush) I don't feel quite as bad now.

You can have paracetamol for your cold, and tea and the duvet. It also helps to throw in a couple of naff films.

Cartoon not much I can say, I hope you and DH are as well as you can be xx

Withalittlesparkle Tue 12-Mar-13 18:33:56

Oh boo!! How rubbish!!! How do you feel now? Sometime a good cry really does wonders!!!

No break for me because manager is off! Just an early night

Shall we wallow together?

Feeling ok now, still a bit stiff and sore from my meeting with the pavement, not happy about the insulin but what can I do??

I do fancy I good wallow, a cry made me feel much better (it was so embarrassing all tears and snot blush)

I think we should start our very own brooker wallowing sofa, comes complete with duvet brew chocolate (for those who can) and naff films on hand!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 12-Mar-13 21:21:11

Yes I think a wallow sofa is a brilliant idea! I'd def be on it with you!

Although I have cheered myself up greatly by trying on the clothes I ordered from new look and deciding I actually look fabulous! There's something to be said for proper fitting clothes! Oh and over the bump jeans?! AMAZING!!! These are a tad too long but I can always get mil to turn them up for me!!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 12-Mar-13 21:29:46

Oh but mrsparks has put his back put so is on a major grump!!

My cold has stopped me going to see my nan who has been moved to critical care so can't can't risk her getting this!

And my hives are stopping me bending my legs

But at least I now have Jeans that fit grin

envy <---- me right now at the thought of new clothes, I love new clothes but there is no point yet, I have enough to get through though. I love that new clothes 'I look amazing' feeling!

Hope Mr S feels better soon, he has to compliment you on all your new clothes grin do they know what is wrong with your Nan? It must be awful for you that you can't visit, you will soon enough though.

Leg bending is highly overrated grin

<lands on the wallow sofa, grabs brew? Settles in smile]

Cartoon if you're out there, I hope you can get some rest, be kind to yourself xx

Withalittlesparkle Tue 12-Mar-13 22:23:31

I tried everything on and he sorted of grunted at me, told me he felt sick then fell asleep!

I've been wearing a lot of dresses for work but all my casual stuff is getting a little short and I was risking some belly peakage which makes me want to BOAK! The tops I bought are long length bubble hem so totally avoid that and with plenty of belly room for when twinks has another growth spurt

Nan started off with a second dose of pneumonia but now they think it may be more serious but until she's more stable they won't be able to run any tests on her! Just a waiting game!

Turns out our new antenatal wallow sofa is a diabetes free zone! So have some chocolate (Lent has gone out the window)

Withalittlesparkle Wed 13-Mar-13 06:14:03

Please cover the wallow sofa in plastic sheets, I've woken up with a horrid nose bleed!on the plus 'woken up' suggest that I did get some sleep last night

The wallow sofa is diabetic free and wipe clean grin

I get nose bleeds too, another attractive side effect of pregnancy hmm but yay for sleep smilesmile

I'm sure your Nan will respond to treatment soon thanks try to have a good day at work.

Ooh also, I love a bump band, a hoop of fabric that just covers the bottom of the bump and stops the belly peek wink

Withalittlesparkle Wed 13-Mar-13 07:17:28

I have a bump band but it just feels like more fabric round my belly than I can handle!

Have decided to admit defeat and have a duvet day! I absolutely need to be well enough to go in tomorrow but I think rest is more important than anything else!

How are you feeling today?

I am feeling ok today not so stiff or sore, I had a very weird and vivid dream about giving birth to Booby, so vivid I had to check my bump was still there when I woke up blushgrin

Just did my first insulin jab, it's really not that bad!

I'm so pleased you're having a duvet day, you really need one.

Withalittlesparkle Wed 13-Mar-13 12:02:16

I dreamt that I had hair coming out of my belly button, like a pony tail that went up knees.....

grin arf @ belly button pony tail, did you check when you woke up?? I would have wink

Withalittlesparkle Wed 13-Mar-13 12:41:16

No because in my dream I cut it off.... So obviously it wouldn't still be there!!!

Being at home even when ill is sooooo boring!!! I'm not entirely sure how I'm going to cope on maternity leave

Oh yeah, obviously! smile

Don't worry about mat leave, plan lots of nice things to do, plus there will be a little something else to occupy your time smilesmile

Withalittlesparkle Thu 14-Mar-13 06:45:42

Back to work sad
But only 10 weeks till maternity leave starts grin

Woo hoo maternity leave countdown grin brilliant stuff! Wonder who a SAHM gives mat leave forms to hmm grin

Hope you're having a good day today, not working too hard and your duvet day helped. How is your Nan?

Withalittlesparkle Thu 14-Mar-13 12:11:05

Work is rubbish and nan is no better, I'm full of stinky cold and struggling to 'hold it together' feeling rather pathetic actually because I'm normally able to just cope, the persistently happy chirpy person who just gets on with stuff!!!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 14-Mar-13 12:12:12

Oh and SAHMs don't get maternity leave because they are living the dream (little envious that you don't have to work)

Mmm, fair point!

Don't beat yourself up about not being chirpy, you are growing a whole new person, worried for your Nan and feeling rotten. Any one of those would make you miserable but all together is just bloody rotten and unfair! <plumps up, cushions on the new wallow sofa> thanks

Withalittlesparkle Thu 14-Mar-13 13:20:59

Thanks boo I'm getting good use out of the wallow sofa! You dare stop posting after booby arrives!!!

Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere!!

<takes a couple of brew to the sofa>

Ok, tell me honestly, at what point does cleaning become nesting?? Keeping the kitchen, living room tidy, making beds picking up after the kids all good so far?? How about tidying under the bed and re folding everything in the linen chest - I mean actually making sure duvet covers are folded with their matching pillow cases inside, then put back with the sheets that I think go best with them, pairing up all the spare pillow cases and putting them back in a neat little pile shock tis madness I tells ya!!! I needed to re fold everything cos DH had folded some and they HAD to all be folded the same blush

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 14-Mar-13 16:44:21

boo that's not nesting its OCD grin

maybe sorry you're feeling rubbish and I hope your Nan feels better soon too.

Thought I'd pop in here as the sofa looks rather comfy.

Thanks Beedle I knew it wasn't normal grin

Pull up a spot on the sofa, have a brew smile

just going to sit quietly on the sofa.

<passes Cartoon a duvet and brew> stay as long as you want, talk when you are ready xx

Withalittlesparkle Thu 14-Mar-13 17:48:38

We might need to invest in a bigger sofa!

Mr S is being very good after I totally lost when i got home! I think i may allergic to crying though because my hives flared up straight away! He keeps asking what I want to do and to be honest what I really want to do is go shopping! I mean seriously?! Who craves shopping?!

Boo I tidy our linen closest every so often, largely because I can't decide whether I prefer my towels folded or rolled!!!

Our sofa is wipe clean, diabetic free and super expendable grin

I'm not surprised you lost it, you have so much on at the moment, good on Mr s being nice. grin arf @ the shopping craving!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 14-Mar-13 17:57:05

I think you mean expandable, our sofa is by no means expendable!!

Take it back about mr S he's having a nap! So I'm left on my own to dwell!
Bleugh, must pull myself out of this pit of self despair!!!

Bloody auto correct grin yes expandable!

I take it all back about Mr S, you know it's all his fault if you and your credit card accidentally find the internet while he is asleep wink I honestly think we have cravings for a reason!


Stacks Thu 14-Mar-13 19:21:03

cartoon [hugs].

Oh Cartoon {{{hugs}}}

musicalmrs Thu 14-Mar-13 20:14:50

<hugs for cartoon >

We're here if you want to talk - or if not, of course.

I sit here trying to post actual words but then don't know what to say.

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 15-Mar-13 06:52:51

well I'll just sit here beside you with a cup of brew and give you a ((hug))

<sits next to Cartoon, holds hands>

Take your time, we're here. X

Withalittlesparkle Fri 15-Mar-13 08:27:45

Joins everyone back on wallow sofa, after a quick nap on the wallow bed!

Face you don't need words, I doubt there are any words! But know we're here for you, every step, every tear, every ounce of brooking power we can possibly muster

Withalittlesparkle Fri 15-Mar-13 12:08:13

Can you all brook for me and my family please? It's going to be a very tough and long weekend!

Sparks brooking no argument of course, what's happened? thanks

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 15-Mar-13 14:50:52

sorry you're having a tough time sparks
brooking that your weekend isn't as bad as you think it will be

Withalittlesparkle Fri 15-Mar-13 23:04:10

Been sitting with Nan for last 12 hours, best they can do now is make her comfortable!

Oh Sparks I'm so sorry to hear that. thanks

Withalittlesparkle Sun 17-Mar-13 09:59:38

Just let you know it's over, she's gone!

Twinks was a massive comfort last night, when I'd sort of calmed down he was giving a good old wriggle and getting himself in to such a position that I could feel exactly where he was , like he was letting me know he was there

Sparks I am so so sorry for your loss. How lovely that twinkle was giving you a special mummy cuddle though, it is a very special bond!

I'm here for a chat or just to sit quietly with you, whatever you need thanks

Just checking in Sparks hope you're doing ok. Cartoon thinking of you and DH

thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks

Not really any news here, I think I have been nesting a bit, cleaning things to within an inch of themselves. The insulin is really working keeping my levels stable, had physio for my hips and hopefully they won't get any worse and I have my new gym ball for a good bounce of an evening, hopefully Booby will be well prepared and ready to come. Ooh I finally sold teen boo's old bike (been trying to flog it since November) it went to a lovely young fella who got so excited about having a new bike he couldn't speak grin

Withalittlesparkle Sun 17-Mar-13 19:50:34

Thanks boo I just feel a bit spaced out and numb, I've spent the day with my mum but now we're back home it all just feels a bit surreal! I was very close to my Nan and she'd gone for nearly 81 years without even really showing her age so... Hmmm... I just can't quite verbalise

I can tell from your posts that you and your Nan were close, if I can tell that from what I have read, how loved and cherished she must have felt with you is amazing.

It is very soon for you to be able to talk about it and make any sense of it, take your time. thanks xx

Withalittlesparkle Mon 18-Mar-13 02:55:58

Very mememe but is there a way of promoting dreamless sleep? And is this stress going to affect the baby?

I don't know of any way to do that Sparks have you been having nightmares?? sad also worth remembering that bad dreams are just one of the ways your mind tries to make sense of what is happening when you are awake, they are not messages or prophetic!!

Please be reassured twinkle should be fine. As long as you keep eating and drinking he is getting what he needs. You and twinkle will get through this and you will be fine.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 18-Mar-13 13:20:17

It was horrid last night, I dreamt that she had opened her eyes and was actually still alive but so very alone. then I couldnt get back to sleep. so I'm shattered!

I couldnt eat this morning but Ive just managed to have some lunch which has obviously made me feel a little better about things.

Oh I'm not surprised you were disturbed by that dream, it sounds awful! But it is so fresh and raw for you I'm not surprised. Take it easy and, even if you don't feel much like it, have food or a snack regularly, twinkle will still be taking what he needs from you and you.

I can only roll out the usual platitudes of time being a great healer, but in grief it is right, you will come to terms with your loss, and find a way to live with it, and it won't always be as bad as it is now.

Here if you need me. xx


Evening Sweetie just popping in to say I really hope you have had as good a day as you could expect and manage some rest and sleep tonight. xx

Gosh I was quite tired last night, that clearly should have been for you Sparks blush

I hope you did get some rest last night and are having a good day today.

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 19-Mar-13 12:15:25

sparks sorry about your nan, hope you managed to get some rest last night ((hugs)) thanks

Withalittlesparkle Tue 19-Mar-13 13:25:07

Thanks ladies, I did manage to sleep last night however this morning I was taken to A&E with breathing difficulties, cue a massive panic attack! Been sent home with antibiotics, steroids and the orders to calm down!!!

Waiting to fine out about my GTT that I'm meant to have tomorrow, don't fancy sitting round half starved for 3 hours!!

Oh Sparks, you are really in the wars at the moment. I'm sure they will be able to organise something for your gtt. May I ask why they are sending you for one?

Now do please try to rest and relax, I know it is hard but you must try.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 19-Mar-13 13:37:04

I think I'm being sent for one because of the PCOS, and I'm mildly podgy around the gills!!

It sounds like a precaution, I hope they move it for you.

Tell me where you are in the baby preparation. I have just got my pram, I have fitted toddly a buggy board to it. I have been washing like a demon all the blankets, sheets and covers all clean and ready to use smile

Still putting off packing myself a bag, I need to get some new (black) PJ's for the hospital. But I think almost there.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 19-Mar-13 14:06:38

What buggy did you go for?

We've ordered a mothercare orb but it won't come until end of May at the same time the furniture is due to be delivered!!

Nursery still needs emptying and decorating but we're getting there slowly but surely

How many weeks do you have left? Are you excited or nervous?

We have a Graco Quattro, first time I have had a proper travel system. I'm 34 weeks this week (Friday) so officially just over 6 weeks but induction means probably more like 4 weeks shock I think I am excited and impatient now grin

Tell me more about twinkle, how is your DH doing. Is he excited about his son arriving soon? (If you hadn't noticed I'm trying to distract you by talking about something lovely)

Withalittlesparkle Tue 19-Mar-13 16:57:33

I did notice what you were doing and I think it's a great tactic!!

Twinks is awesome, such a wriggler!! When I got the news about Nan (not dwelling, is a positive thing) I lay in bed and because I'd be crying my belly had sort been shaken. So I was lying down and he just started booting me and sticking his head or bum right out so I could see my belly moving! It was like he was just telling me it was ok!!!

Mr S is very excited but I think a little unaware of what's going to happen when the baby arrives, he keeps saying that he is going to plan some lovely days out when he is on paternity, like everything is going to be exactly the same just with a little baby in tow!! Bless him!!

Booby has a thing about sticking it's bum out too, I have also got a little foot that rubs along the top of my bump, I will miss these moments when I have to share Booby with everyone else wink

I want to give Mr S a hug and pat on the head, bless him, days out with twinkle in the first 2 weeks grin it's a very sweet idea. You might want to get him to Google new babies or show him the post grads thread on here grin

Where have you ordered your furniture from? I think I would have liked to know the sex of Booby now so I could buy lovely things for him/her, but that might be my impatience showing a bit hmm

How has your day been today Sparks? Hopefully not as eventful as yesterday!

Me and Booby have had a quite a quiet day playing with Toddly Boo. Not much to report really, I have an anti natal appointment with growth scan on Monday.

Did they manage to move your gtt to another day?

Frootloopz Wed 20-Mar-13 17:09:02

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Withalittlesparkle Wed 20-Mar-13 17:11:14

Cross post!!

GTT has been moved back 2 weeks, they wouldn't do it with the penicillin and wanted to book it for next week but obviously I was waiting for a funeral date so didnt want to commit to anything!!!

Withalittlesparkle Wed 20-Mar-13 17:14:27

Ohhhh Frootz!!!! Surely you won't make it another 2 weeks cus it sounds like babyfrootz is ready to make itself known, another brooking baby on its way

I think you will still beat me to it Froot I'm going to be pregnant forever , it's good to hear from you, sounds like everything is going really well, fabulous news that baby is not breech!! Booby is currently measuring just above the 95th centile shock and is also head down ready to go [eek]

Sparks I'm really pleased that they could move your gtt, it seems sensible to keep next week free for your Nan. How are you doing at the moment? Brooking that you are ok xx thanks

Withalittlesparkle Wed 20-Mar-13 21:45:40

95th percentile?!?!? That's crazy!!!!

I'm ok, my chest is killing like a crazy thing but have decided to self certify for the rest of the week! Think I need it!!!

Yeah, I do have a chunky monkey in my belly grin we will find out on Monday if it is still on the same growth line.

Self certify is the best idea this week you need time to come to terms with everything. May I ask why is your chest still sore? I haven't had a PA so I don't know what effects they can have on your body, hopefully it will sort itself out soon.

Off to bed now, I'm being a right miserable old cow to DH cos I'm so tired (thank you Toddly boo, I love you too, but 4am is definitely still sleep time!!)

Withalittlesparkle Thu 21-Mar-13 06:57:19

There's a chest infection to go with the PA! I'm just a tad run down!! And cus there's not a hell of a lot you can do when you preggo rest is really the best option!

Did you get much sleep?

Good morning, I slept right through, didn't wake for a pee or anything smilesmile gosh I feel better for that!

You have had such a hard couple of weeks I'm not surprised you are run down. Hope you recover quickly.

TheLittleFriend Thu 21-Mar-13 11:28:30

Sparks, sorry I'm so late to give you my sympathy at losing your nan thanks

Hope you preggo are well. Just had a quick scroll back and love MrSparks idea for days out on pat leave. You never know, you might get a sleepy baby and fancy doing something smile

Withalittlesparkle Thu 21-Mar-13 11:59:55

Thanks little

MrS has his rose tinted baby glasses on for sure, bless him

I miss it here.

BartletForTeamGB Fri 22-Mar-13 09:40:05

Hugs, cartoon. Hope it is not long before you are back here.

We miss you too Cartoon hope it's not too long for your results.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Mar-13 12:40:39

Oh face you poor thing, I hope you get some answers!!

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Mar-13 12:43:40

I'm finally turning a corner with this infection I think, tmi but my phlegm has finally started coming out in bucket loads!! Feels like I've broken my back from the coughing and sneezing but I can handle that as long as I show the smallest of improvements!!!!

Ooh that is a good and slightly disgusting sign, have you got a date for your Nan's send off yet?

so I'm very confused that the doc thinks I'm having my period and concerned now bout our slight accident, accidentle pregnancy would not be good in our situation.
I've also been having lower back ache and pins and needles/numbness in my leg and bum.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Mar-13 13:33:29

Boo it's on Wednesday!

Face if you had a slip up earlier in the week but now on your period then you're mostly likely not pregnant. In the mean time you should probably take some precautions until you've made a proper decision

I know when to brook for you now Sparks and not ask inane questions wink

Cartoon at the risk of making you glare at me again, I'm with Sparks I think you are probably ok this cycle, but take precautions until your results are in. Don't know about your pins and needles though.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Mar-13 13:49:30

That's boo, it's all rather emotional and Im really rather dreading but we have some lovely family things planned for Easter, we'd organised it before my Nan got sick, and we think she'd still want us to go so trying to keep that in view as well

I know I know I was really upset with myself. condoms are so fraustrating though! I'm reluctant to go on the pill (havent been on one for years) because I'm hoping it won't be long before we can TTC.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Mar-13 15:49:37

No need to go back on the pill, condoms might be fiddly but it'll save you the worry

I've literally gone from one extreme to the other, the past few days I really want to be pregnant again. but before I really didn't ever want to try again and was going to leave u all.

It is still very soon to be making any big decisions. Take your time.

Withalittlesparkle Sat 23-Mar-13 00:26:50

Ok actually freaking out about the snow!! From now having enough food in the house, to it not being gone on Wednesday!!! Trying to calm myself down because there's nothing I can do about it but its just plain shit!!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 23-Mar-13 00:39:49

Also freaking out because husband has read we're being moved to weelie bins.... Why the hell can't I deal with anything rationally?

GreenOlives Sat 23-Mar-13 07:34:51

Morning glowing preggos!
You fell off my threads blush so im just checking in to say hello. So sorry to hear about your Nan sparks - love the FB pic of her smile

Morning Olives. I'm not sure about glowing, I seem to be wearing someone else's hair sideways today hmm

Sparks you lovely hormonal whirlpool!! Rational went out the window about 28 weeks ago grin I'm just happy if I can through the day without crying or shouting

Sorry, pressed post too soon, it was meant to be crying, or shouting and panicking because my socks don't match grin

keepitgoing Mon 25-Mar-13 03:52:06

<peeps in nervously>

I spoke to my sister last night, and finally manned up to ask her the sex smile also asked her to send me a picture of her bump, which she did with the loveliest email 'sorry if this is hard, thinking of you'. I want to tell her, as hate to think of her feeling bad for me. But dh has forbidden it, as saying then we'd have to tell both families... Agreed to wait till after we see a heartbeat. Argh. Anyway, I tried to stop her worrying with a lighthearted reply.

Do you guys think that's OK?

No symptoms, other than sore boobs from progesterone pessaries.....

Withalittlesparkle Mon 25-Mar-13 06:31:43

Hey keep smile I think your wise to wait but it is the absolute hardest secret to keep, buy also the absolute best!!!

Don't worry about lack of symptoms, I think I was a good 5 weeks when I even felt remotely different! And even then I think 6 weeks before the vomiting actually started!!

Good morning ladies. Hiya Keep I was very similar to Sparks I think it was a good 6 weeks before any symptoms really started to show. It really is hard to keep it to yourself when all you want to do is shout it from every rooftop smile Telling them is brilliant fun though! When will you have the scan?

keepitgoing Mon 25-Mar-13 09:48:50

Well, I think they will do overkill on scans here, as they want to make money... We have one on Friday, that I think they use to confirm clinical pregnancy for their stats. I'll only be 5 weeks, so will just see the yolk sac. I think you can see the heartbeat earliest 6ish weeks? I don't know what other scans they recommend.

OK, won't stress about lack of symptoms. I am still so happy, plus overwhelming sense of relief.

At least I'm 000s of miles away, makes it easier to keep a secret!

boo have you started m/l yet?

What happened to cru and ?*/Mon*?

No m/l for me I'm afraid, I'm one of those bloody sahm's wink

I didn't think I would have many scans, I have ended up seeing more of booby than some of my family. I'm waiting for my last (I hope) growth scan now, and I have really enjoyed every single one!

I will check back in later when I have been scanned and checked up on!

keepitgoing Mon 25-Mar-13 10:23:14

Ooh brill, I didn't realise! Good luck for the scan today.

I'm going to stop reading about m/c rates now...

argh I need to be banned from coming here, I like still coming to visit you all but then I just upset myself.

Oh Cartoon we love seeing you too.

Right, we have a plan! Booby is currently measuring just north of the 95th centile, weight estimated at 6lb 6oz. I go again in 3 weeks (I will be 37+3) for another scan and a stretch and sweep. Induction for sometime the following week if I have not already had it.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 25-Mar-13 14:24:46

Oh boo that doesn't sounds like very long at all!! Might want to consider packing that hospital bag already!!!

Keep step away from google, I did the same though so can't really tell you off!! But just think, every day your little bean gets stronger and stronger!

There won't be a point you stop worrying though, you'll see a yolk sack at 5 week and worry till you see a heart best and then worry till you 12 week scan, and then from 12 weeks to 20 weeks you'll think is the most torturous wait known to man! Then you just worry until baby arrives... That could just be me though!!!

Nope, not just you Sparks I have worried constantly about booby, now I'm fretting about will I be able to breast feed (teen did toddly didn't).

I actually have everything ready for booby (not in a bag yet but all in the same place) I just need to get to primarni for some cheap PJ's, dressing gown and pants in black/dark colour then I'm good to go smile

And please do step away from Dr Google unlike me who still checks weekly for baby growth updates grin

Withalittlesparkle Mon 25-Mar-13 14:43:28

Mr sparkes wants me to pack my hospital bag, Im only 28 weeks for gods sake!!

He got all worried when I had to call an ambulance last week (non pg related) so wants to have a n ever so basic bag ready to take 'just in case' bless him!!

Oh Sparks your DH is fab smile just tell him all you really need is you and your notes, the hospital/ward/Tesco can provide the rest if you need it for now, bless him.

Can't believe I am so close now, eek!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 25-Mar-13 15:46:28

He started planning the route to the hospital at about 20 weeks, bless him!!

It doesn't seem like that long ago that you were announcing your BFP!!!

grin ask him if he has packed his labour bag yet?? Snacks, change of clothes, deoderant, tooth brush, car park change?? Bet he's not thought of that Mr boo hasn't!

Is he keeping the car topped up with petrol just in case?? Bless, he's going to wear himself out before twinkle get here grin

Withalittlesparkle Mon 25-Mar-13 17:19:12

But boo don't forget when twinks arrives It'll be like a holiday anyway so he'll get a lovely rest

Sorry I forgot, in at 9, out by 11, minimal parking charges then off for a picnic for lunch followed by 2 weeks of bliss and sleep in's grin grin are you going to try and tell him or just wait for him to find out for himself?

Withalittlesparkle Mon 25-Mar-13 18:52:20

I think he'd be rather perturbed by having to drive at 9, it's rush hour after all!!

I'm just going to let him find out, he has a book so it's his own fault if he is unprepared

DH is making hmm faces at me, I have just laughed so hard at that my eyes are leaking grin if also thinks we have been here on our own too long now, we have actually gone a bit crazy confused grin

Withalittlesparkle Mon 25-Mar-13 19:15:52

Yes cabin fever may have set in a little bit

JenFreggle Mon 25-Mar-13 20:19:09

<peers in, sees the crazy people and creeps out before they spot me>

On Jen please stay, tell us tales of life outside the grads thread, please don't go [begging emoticon]

Sparks just checking, Mr S's book is about being a dad and not changing oil or something, cos a book about changing oil will be no help to him in the next 12 weeks grin

keepitgoing Tue 26-Mar-13 02:07:18

boo that's one big baby!!!! Ooh, four weeks to go! Doesn't sound long, but to me at the moment the days are crawling...

sparks that's so cute of your dh to be so prepared. What was the ambulance for? <frets>

One day at a time.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 26-Mar-13 06:49:37

Yes Jen stay

Boo maybe that's where I went wrong, it's actually a copy of Harry potter... He thinks he needs to start looking at hogwarts fees!!!

Keep I'm just getting over a rather nasty chest infection, I was struggling to breath on Tuesday so hubby called NHS direct who called for an ambulance, they were worried about oxygen levels getting to the baby but my sat levels were 100% so it really was just a bit of an over reaction!

And yes one day at a time but today your one day more pregnant than you were yesterday smile

Keep the first 12 weeks were for me the longest slowest time I have ever known. But just wait, you will soon be 34 weeks, panicking about having no black PJ's and can't be arsed to go into town to get some wondering where the time has gone. I promise.

Sparks grin arf @ Harry fees!

keep the ladies on my other thread say pupo.
pregnant until proven otherwise.

keepitgoing Tue 26-Mar-13 10:28:49

Ooh sparks, nasty! But best to be safe for you and twinkle. I don't think it was ASN overreaction on anyone's part, just being sensible.

4+4... Pupo, I like it face. You'll be back here before we know it, you mark my words.

boo, that's the beauty of online shopping, no? Order what you want! Are the kids excited about the baby now? Expect teen boo is, but secretly. Yours is an ubb, right?

keep I know that's why I'm nit letting my space on the sofa get cold! touchwood I've never taken long to find the right pre stick its the other stuff that delays me, appointments, tests etc.
in some ways 2wks has gone quick in others I can't believe its only been that long. I'm just anxious for our appointment and an action plan.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 26-Mar-13 13:03:30

I've just been reminded that I only have 8 weeks left till I break up and nearly a week off for Easter, so really only 7 weeks left at work, I totes needed someone to put a smile on my face and that did the trick smile

keepitgoing Tue 26-Mar-13 13:34:02

That can't be right, sparks! Wowee!! Fab fab fab.

Yes, face, you'll get the right drugs or support or what not, and bobs your uncle. At least you find the right pee stick fast, I guess.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 26-Mar-13 13:40:55

My calculations are correct, I've sneakily managed to get to 28 weeks (on Friday) without really noticing!!

Good morning ladies, ooh how exciting Sparks we love a good countdown.

I will be thinking of you today, I hope it is the send off that your Nan would have approved of thanksthanks

Withalittlesparkle Wed 27-Mar-13 08:13:01

Thanks boo at the moment I'm battling with getting out of bed! Never wanted this day to come sad

One thing at a time Sparks don't think ahead too much it could overwhelm you. And remember, by the time you get back into that bed today will be over and you won't have to do it again thanks

keepitgoing Wed 27-Mar-13 09:58:09

Oh, sparks, try and think of it as a lovely day to remember your Nan. Funerals are awful, but helpful too I think. Take care of yourself x

Withalittlesparkle Wed 27-Mar-13 09:59:43

Thanks ladies, I've got up and had a shower and sort of straightened my hair but I'll probably bung it up in a pony tail and not worry about it!!

keepitgoing Wed 27-Mar-13 10:00:06

boo, what's the best period in pregnancy, you think? In terms of physical and crazy-worrying both? Am guessing it's neither where you are nor where I am...? Though bfp-day was Amazing smile

JenFreggle Wed 27-Mar-13 10:14:08

Sparks I'm sure you will do her proud

Withalittlesparkle Wed 27-Mar-13 10:28:05

Keep in my opinion the best period of pregnancy is after the 20 week scan assuming that your morning sickness has gone!

Keep I would say 16 - 30 weeks or so, at 16 weeks we get a mw appointment and hear the heartbeat, confirming that little one is ok, you should also be feeling better from the ms, I also had a lovely boost of energy and a beautiful bump to play with. You feel the first kicks and feel like getting things ready as you get more confidant in your pregnancy. But though it seems a long way off now it really will soon come round.

Sparks hope you're doing ok. Xx

Frootloopz Wed 27-Mar-13 15:17:38

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

GreenOlives Wed 27-Mar-13 15:49:30

frootz Not sure about your gender theory, I had a LOT of sickness in both my successful pregnancies and they are both boys! grin And bartlett had really bad sickness for DS and DD iirc. Do you have any gut feelings? Can't believe another.brooking baby will soon be here! grin
sparks Hope today went as well as it possibly could ((hugs))
keep Lovely to see you here, so happy for you smile
Waves at boo!

Hiya Olives how's it all going?

<clears another space on the sofa, someone will be wanting it very soon wink, you know who you are>

GreenOlives Wed 27-Mar-13 18:06:20

All ok today thanks boo but yesterday evening was a nightmare with 2 solid hours of DS2 screaming whilst trying to do dinner bath and bed for DS1( who also ended up in tears Im not keen on DH being on late shifts! How's the insulin going?

JenFreggle Wed 27-Mar-13 19:39:45


Ooh hello Jen <shuffles up the sofa a little> what's new with you?? wink

JenFreggle Wed 27-Mar-13 19:48:03

Not much really Boo, just like, you know, diffed

Loopyhasanotherbean Wed 27-Mar-13 19:59:27

Err, hello?!?!?!? Diffed you say Jen?!?!?! Congratulations!!!! Wasn't expecting to read that snuck in there smile

JenFreggle Wed 27-Mar-13 20:11:18

I wasn't expecting it either. One careless, no contraception SFF and I seem to have a 2 line pee stick blush

Loopyhasanotherbean Wed 27-Mar-13 20:14:24

How old is your youngest? (Dd I think or am I muddled?)

JenFreggle Wed 27-Mar-13 20:16:00

She's 10 months on Friday

Make yourself at home again Jen brew<---- for the shock. Have you told DH yet or will you wait for the luxury stick?

JenFreggle Wed 27-Mar-13 20:35:29

He's blissfully unaware at the moment, playing playstation. Which test shall I get then?

I would say you can't beat a Clear Blue Digital. Pricey but it tells you in actual words that cannot be mistaken as evap, or I believe super drug own are good as they use pink dye, I think pink dye ones show clearer than blue ones. The best person to ask about that really would be Geek who has peed on just about every sort of stick available.

Ooh don't forget to save your first pee in some sort of receptacle for testing!

keepitgoing Thu 28-Mar-13 02:42:37

Ooh jen!!! Congratulations!!! I am no expert on sticks, but if you got a line quickly on the other then it probably doesn't matter.

How many weeks are you, then?! I am 4+6. I think someone's slowed down time...

Loopyhasanotherbean Thu 28-Mar-13 06:40:43

Well you know the rules Jen, a line is a line smile although I do like the clear blue digital just to see the word pregnant along with how many weeks.

So, your hubby will have his hands even fuller soon then, how do you think he will cope with 3, under 4 would it be by then? I struggle to remember whose children are what ages! (Assuming you will go back to work and he will still be at home with your brood)

JenFreggle Thu 28-Mar-13 09:55:16

I only have 1 at the moment and am a SAHM. Not sure who you are thinking of Loopy

keepitgoing Thu 28-Mar-13 10:13:10

Have you poas and told dh yet, jen?

sparks are you OK? X

Withalittlesparkle Thu 28-Mar-13 10:30:03

Wow I missed a bit of surprise BFP action yesterday didnt I? Tut tut Jen we know what you've been up to!!!! wink How do you feel?

Thanks keep I'm ok, it went well yesterday, as well as these things can go but I feel a little brighter today, like a weights been lifted sort of thing! We're off on a sort of family holiday this weekend,booked before, so mums asked that we all still go and use the time to reflect on the happier memories!

Keep are you a day ahead or a day behind? Because you have a scan coming up and I'm not really sure when to wish you luck!!! Also if your a day ahead you may well have hit the 5 weeks mark by the time you read this!!!!

Froot sounds like we need to brook this baby out pronto!!!

Come on Jen the shops have been open for ages!

keepitgoing Thu 28-Mar-13 10:41:47

sparks I'm just seven hours ahead. Scan is v early on Saturday morning.

Glad it went well, I think funerals are so necessary in the grieving process. And how lovely to have some time with your family at the weekend. Hope your chest is better too.

Drums fingers at jen. Fancy having no tests...

keepitgoing Thu 28-Mar-13 10:43:36

I have really bloated stomach, from wind, by the evenings. I expect it's not normal but from the manky progesterone pessaries I have to take? Keep worrying it's the uterus but I think it's mostly the, er, digestive tract. blush

Withalittlesparkle Thu 28-Mar-13 10:55:26

Nope keep you sound perfectly normal! At 5 weeks I went to the docs because I felt massive, completely convinced I looked pregnant, and felt like my stomach would explode with the gas! All totally normal!

It'll ease off... Well actually it doesn't, it just doesn't build up like it does the begin with! Seriously half the time I'm walking round I sound like I've being jet propelled lol

Don't worry about your womble yet, it is still quite a small thing tucked right down in your pelvis.

Sparks sorry I missed your post, glad it went well yesterday, I'm pleased you get some family time over the weekend too, where are you all off to? As you have seen we kept ourselves occupied yesterday grin

Jen anything to update??

Withalittlesparkle Thu 28-Mar-13 10:56:51

Oh and it helps to try and identify where your cramps are coming from of you're having any! Anything down low should be checked out, anything higher is most likely just gas!!

Ooh x posted Sparks. Arf @ jet propelled grin you know that it comes back quite dramatically, I need to get a dog so I have something else to blame blush

Withalittlesparkle Thu 28-Mar-13 11:19:17

Boo isn't that what toddlyboo is for?!

It was sad now he just points at me and says 'no mummy that came from your bum' blush

Withalittlesparkle Thu 28-Mar-13 15:11:22

Bahahaha toddlyboo is a legend!!!!

JenFreggle Thu 28-Mar-13 16:11:24

Posh test says pregnant too shock

Squee Jen no getting away from it now smilesmile. What test did you go for in the end? You will have to tell DH now.

S'ok, answered my own questions over on FB.

Loopyhasanotherbean Thu 28-Mar-13 20:00:06

Err, I seem to have lost the post grad thread, can anyone do a link to it please?

Ps big congratulations keep, not had chance to say that till now!

Oh and Sparks who's side are you on here???? grin

Withalittlesparkle Thu 28-Mar-13 21:31:50

Yay Jen so that means you have to stay on the antenatal thread and make up numbers!!!!

Boo I'm afraid I'm siding with toddlyboo on this one grin

Not a bad week for grads eh!! 2 new ones smilesmile

Froot sorry lovely, I seem to have missed you in the excitement. I know it isn't nice but I think the increased pain means baby is really ready to sneeze out, hopefully it won't be long for you. I'm voting dd, for no particular reason (and I'm usually wrong too wink)

Jen is the shock wearing off at all?

Sparks after everything we have been through, how could you? wink grin

keepitgoing Fri 29-Mar-13 04:26:54

Yay jen! We can mental away the next 7 weeks together!

boo, I have to agree that ToddlyBoo is awesome grin

I want to feel sick! .........

foot hope it happens soon. I'll go for a boy, but am usually wrong too, and this way either me or Boo will reverse our form.

am leaving mumsnet. bye.

Don't worry Keep you will then you will wish you didn't, then when when you don't you will be worrying about why not and wish you did again and so it goes smile what your due date, it must be close to Jen?

Cartoon don't leave, maybe take a break then pop back when you feel a bit stronger??

Morning Sparks and Froot

JenFreggle Fri 29-Mar-13 09:29:19

Look after yourself cartoon. I hope to see you again on here but at the end of the day we are just a bunch of strange people strangers on the internet so don't worry about us.

Well it is starting to sink in here, been trying to think of the positives and at least dd is too young to tell anyone that mummy is being sick smile I was 5 weeks last time when the constant puking started and am 5 weeks now.

keepitgoing Fri 29-Mar-13 09:58:50

Mind's 29/11, when's your jen? Must be the same if you're five weeks today too?

JenFreggle Fri 29-Mar-13 10:34:20

28th Nov according to period dates but I know we conceived on 9th March as we only dtd once blush 5+1 today. I'll phone the Dr on Tuesday and get the referral to the mw sorted. We are going on holiday in May and I'll be 13 weeks when we go so fingers crossed I get a good scan date and it is before the holiday. Last time my scan was bang on 12 weeks

Withalittlesparkle Fri 29-Mar-13 10:35:29

Morning ladies, we did something rather indulgent this morning, turned the alarm off and just allowed ourselves to sleep as much as we needed, so I fell asleep around 11 last night and woke up at about 10 this morning, that's an amazing 11 hours of pure undisturbed rest! After the last 14 days of barely sleeping, getting a couple of hours max my body obviously needed it!!

Keep, I was totally the same about feeling sick, and then when I was running to the loo at work, I decided I was mental for wanting to be sick!!! Then I had two days where I stopped feeling sick and cried and cried because I thought something was wrong, then I was back to clinging to the loo smile

It's rather lovely to have more of us here again!!

I've just sent mrsparks out for bacon, I have a day off and I full intend to spend as much as possible in bed!!

JenFreggle Fri 29-Mar-13 10:40:40

Sounds great Sparks. My sickness started at 5 weeks and stopped suddenly at 14 weeks. It was just constant puking all day, every day so never had that worrying something was wrong break in the middle.

Just realised it's Friday so 5+2, not 5+1 not that it makes any difference

keepitgoing Fri 29-Mar-13 11:52:43

And we conceived on the 8th! Well, the lab did...?

Have a good day in bed sparks and get spoiled. I love a Bacon sarnie!

JenFreggle Fri 29-Mar-13 12:21:46

Off caching today and then have a party to go to tonight. DH started talking about sleeping arrangements so he is getting his head around things too now.

grin grin grin grin look grins with added condoms grin

Jenmeant to ask before now, what is geo caching? I have seen you mention it a few times.

JenFreggle Fri 29-Mar-13 19:51:22

It's like a global treasure hunt. You go on the website to get gps co-ordinates and then use a smartphone or gps unit to find the cache. It is usually a plastic container. You sign the log book to prove you found it and then log your find on the website. It doesn't cost to join and if you have gps on your phone you don't need to buy a gps unit.

That sounds brilliant! Surely it is happening near me (peak district) I will have to have a look.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 29-Mar-13 23:43:53

Mildly jealous that jens sickness was over by 14 weeks!! Mine was projectile until 18 weeks and the slowly died down so I was ok by my 20 week scan!!!

Ended up going shopping instead of staying in bed, big mistake, it was like people were planning for a forthcoming apocalypse!!! We had to get stuff for the weekend but there were people filing two trollies up, mental!!!

Best basket spotted, bearing in mind that I was wait to pay for ages, was 2 boxes of black magic, 4 boxes of cupasoups and a bunch of tulips!! Seriously?! Why would you queue up for that?!

I've also eaten my weight in pic and mix today, baby has a mean sweet tooth!!!

Withalittlesparkle Fri 29-Mar-13 23:44:09

Good luck with your scan keep smile

keepitgoing Sat 30-Mar-13 04:43:29

Thanks sparks. All was good, hcg now 2900 so more than doubled as it should, and progesterone high, as it should be from the 'fanny candles/bum bullets'... Which I was told today I get to stop at 8 weeks. Anyway, he saw the gestational sac where it should be, and right size, and possible yolk sac, so he was happy.

Next scan on 18/04, when I should be 7+6. Seems ages away!

jen/ that geocaching sounds great fun!

sparks you should have done Tesco.com! We've found a hotel doing a proper easter lunch, yummy! I love how you blame twinks for pigging out on pic n mix!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 30-Mar-13 07:30:10

Yay keep this is fabulous news!! How do you feel?

Twinks gets blamed for everything these days, especially when I want to eat unhealthy food!!!

Keep that is brilliant news, so pleased for you! 7+6 will soon roll round, but someone does pause the clocks and calendars in the first trimester!

sparks sounds like madness is the shops yesterday! I love basket snooping too grin

keepitgoing Sat 30-Mar-13 09:30:15

Yes, time is slow slow. Sorry boo I seem to have slowed it down, and there you are wanting to meet Booby.

Still feeling fine. Felt a bit underwhelmed by the scan, don't know why, as knew we wouldn't see anything. Am silly.

I now have a great new, size up already, bra. Had a strop in the shop as Thai ladies do not have 32dd boobies, but dh ignored me and persevered and its So Comfy. I've had sore boobs since about cd 8!!

But once twinks is born, you can't blame him, see boo's earlier posts on toddlyboo... Make the most of it! smile

Ooh I love that feeling of sinking your boobs into a nice comfy new bra smile I'm waiting now till my big milky norks happen before I measure again. Don't worry about slowing time down, I really want to meet my booby but starting to not be too keen on doing the bit between being pregnant and those first cuddles shock

Sparks, Keep makes a good point about twinkle/toddly boo! It will happen when you least want it to in the most public way grin Is it this weekend you are away with the family? Gate a lovely time if it is.

#have not gate, stupid auto correct.

JenFreggle Sat 30-Mar-13 12:33:30

Keep there are a number of caches in Bangkok smile

Boo after doing some FB stalking to confirm where you live, there are thousands near you smile

Ooh!!!!!! I feel a summer hobby coming on smilesmile I think it would be good for teen boo (who thinks walking is some sort of punishment) to have a goal to aim for he might even enjoy it!

JenFreggle Sat 30-Mar-13 12:53:32

You can buy trackables which you register on the website. You set the mission and then put it in a cache. People pick them up and move them from cache to cache and you can watch their progress on the website. here is an example of one I found once.

It looks better and better, what a brilliant idea! Let's get this booby sorted and I'm on it!! Thanks Jen.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 31-Mar-13 22:51:05

Twinks got his first Easter egg today, think I'll have to help him eat it!!!

keepitgoing Mon 01-Apr-13 02:00:52

Selfish either, eating your son's Easter egg. I hope you didn't digest any on the way and just sent it all on to him. smile

Withalittlesparkle Mon 01-Apr-13 07:13:05

Keep it's one of the joys of pregnancy everything you eat is really for the baby! It goes some way to make up for the 18/20 weeks of projectile vomiting, the heart burn and the general uncomfortableness!!!

Don't forget Sparks when you get into 30+ weeks it counts as a reward for getting this far!!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 01-Apr-13 09:11:50

28+3 so totally nearly at the reward stage!!!

Sounds close enough to me, you might as well just go for it!

JenFreggle Mon 01-Apr-13 10:25:52

Also the rules last year were that you eat 1 creme egg for every vial of blood taken

Withalittlesparkle Mon 01-Apr-13 12:22:39

I think so far they've taken 4 vials... What do you get for an anti D injection? I've heard they can be quite sore and I'm having mine tomorrow!'

keepitgoing Mon 01-Apr-13 12:35:20

I've had six vials in the last five weeks, at least... And no Easter eggs here!!

smile at payback for vomming...

Withalittlesparkle Mon 01-Apr-13 20:21:03

Keep you'll have to find an alternative chocolately treat to reward yourself!!

<starts adding up all the usual pg blood tests, plus 6 weekly thyroid tests, plus gtt = a whole lot of creme eggs grin>

Keep do you have someone here who could stock pile them for you till you get back?

Withalittlesparkle Tue 02-Apr-13 07:38:33

Booooooo I have a midwife appt this morning it's at the hospital because I have an anti D injection booked as well!! Didn't receive a letter or anything so have absolutely no idea where I'm meant to go, heading down there early to just randomly walk round looking for signs to the antenatal department i think!

Injections should come under the same rules as blood tests! That's another creme egg for you today Sparks! You should be invited for your whooping cough jab soon too.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 02-Apr-13 09:31:21

I have to book my whooping cough thanks for the reminder!!!

keepitgoing Tue 02-Apr-13 11:12:14

Sparks is the anti D because your blood is rhesus negative? Is this your first injection for it? I am B-.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 02-Apr-13 12:40:17

Oh shit a brick!!! My belly is measuring massive, booked in for emergency scan tomorrow morning!!!

How big? Don't panic, could be loads of reasons?

Withalittlesparkle Tue 02-Apr-13 12:54:23

Fundal height is 31 or 32 (checked by two midwives who got different measurements) according to growth chart it should be 28! So Im well above the top line!!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 02-Apr-13 12:55:06

On my scan referral it says polyhydramnious!! So it's a fluid issue rather than size of belly!

I have had a chat with Dr Google and he said they allow 2cm so you are only a little above. Also, is it you who has the 17ft tall DH, maybe Twinkle is just a little long?

Ooh x post, that is probably what they are expecting it to be, when is your gtt? They have been very interested in my fluid as gd can mean an excess of it.

keepitgoing Tue 02-Apr-13 13:07:24

Oh sparks I have no clue about all that but am brooking for the best tomorrow, maybe brooking the midwives got it wrong? Booby's a huge baby, maybe we brookers grow them big?

When was your last scan? Was he big then? X

Yep, booby is now called chunky monkey in the boo house grin

How are you Keep any interesting symptoms that aren't bum bullet related?

Withalittlesparkle Tue 02-Apr-13 13:16:56

GTT is on Thursday so by end of the week I'll know what's going on!!

Everything was fine at last scan, measured perfectly average! His heart rate today is absolutely perfect as well!

Boo I may be joining you in the GD club!!

If it is this polyhydramnious then I may have to start my maternity leave early which will be rather shocking!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 02-Apr-13 13:23:05

And yes, mrsparks and I are both tall (6'8'' and 5'10'')

How are you feeling keep?

Boo is your GD well managed?!

Well you know from your 20 week scan that twinkle is just fine, and you can feel him moving and heard his heart, I keep telling myself as long as baby is ok, I can take care of everything else. What time is your scan tomorrow?

Withalittlesparkle Tue 02-Apr-13 13:29:18

9.30 so I won't have long to wait!

JenFreggle Tue 02-Apr-13 13:29:53

Sparks some people have lots of fluid, some only a little but they can still produce healthy babies.

At the Dr today to sort my referral to the mw and he didn't bother taking my blood pressure. Last time I was told I needed to see the Dr for this but obviously not this time! Also he said that my lovely mw has broken her leg so isn't working at the moment. Fingers crossed she is back to work for my booking appointment as she knows what I'm like with needles. 5+6 today and this is when my ms started last time. I feel like a ticking bomb that could go off at any moment, even though I'm not feeling sick in the slightest confused

Oh just realised we x posted again, yes quite well controlled and I am very well looked after by the diabetic team at the hospital.

Jen you will be sick, I promise!

JenFreggle Tue 02-Apr-13 13:48:48

I was kind of hoping that I did enough last time to cover this pregnancy as well grin Surely spending most of the day with my head in the loo, every day for 9 weeks was enough?

Well yes, maybe you filled your quota last time, maybe this time you will get away with a little light nausea in the morning.

Munxx Tue 02-Apr-13 14:18:26


jen my ms was much much less severe with teeny Munx than it was with wee Munx.

Thanks again for the lansinoh btw! I really needed it.

Big congrats to you, keep and all other diffed Brookers

Hiya Sparks just popping on to brook for you tomorrow.

GreenOlives Wed 03-Apr-13 08:31:37

Good luck for the scan sparks, Im sure twinks is just fine. My hairdresser measured 8 weeks ahead of dates cue lots of panic, extra scans and induction at 39 weeks. Her lovely boy was 9lbs so although above average he was not a giant!! And by the time I went into labour I was measuring bang on yet I still had an almost 11lber! Like boo said its highly likely that twinks will be tall so that may well be why you're measuring bigger. Let us know how the scan goes. x

Withalittlesparkle Wed 03-Apr-13 09:35:44

Go on then ladies lets diagnose me....according to sonographer my fluid levels are good and twinks is actually measuring small (tracking the bottom line on the growth chart) so what the flip is going on? How can my two measurements be so very different? Did I just need a good fart yesterday?! I have to wait in the hospital to see a midwife! Yesterday I was kept waiting for 1 hour 30 and that was with an appointment so god knows how long I'll be kept waiting today!!!

Umm ................ <scratches head>........ dunno, just really really pleased that it is all ok!!!?

Withalittlesparkle Wed 03-Apr-13 10:00:43

Midwife has scratched head too 'just one of those things' but she's very happy and no further action required!! Phew!!!

I am so so so happy for you Sparks that is great news!

keepitgoing Wed 03-Apr-13 11:07:06

Yay sparks!! When's your next appt?

I'm fine, dammit. Very painful wind by each evening, but nowt else. 5+5. Maybe on Friday...?

Withalittlesparkle Wed 03-Apr-13 11:16:43

Next appt is 31 weeks (so end of April) except my GTT which is tomorrow!! That's a lovely sit round and wait for 2 hours!!!

Ah the painful wind, the joys of early pregnancy!!! I was so bloated I felt I looked hideously pregnant!!!

Keep don't worry about symptoms, mind sort of crept up on me after about 6-7 weeks, but wind is normal.

Take a book tomorrow Sparks otherwise they are the most boring 2 hours ever, and you can't even have a snack to keep you going!

JenFreggle Wed 03-Apr-13 11:26:21

Glad to hear everything is ok Sparks

6+0 today and I'm so bloated it's ridiculous. I'm wearing the trousers I was wearing while heavily pregnant and they feel tight confused Last night I was so tired I went to bed at 8 and got up this morning at 10:30 shock

BartletForTeamGB Wed 03-Apr-13 12:37:48

Maybe it is twins, jen. wink

Great news, sparks. grin

keep, another one saying don't worry about symptoms. I feel great until about 8 weeks and then it all starts going pear-shaped (or toilet shaped - even my DS now plays being sick in the toilet!)

Ooooh yes Jen it might be twins! Remember when Dream found out about hers? I'm sure I remember reading that twins are more likely if you conceive while BFing.

Not been here for a while. Chicken pox took over at home and RL has been quite hectic.

Can't remember who was relating MS or lack of with sex of baby. But I've never had MS with any of my pregnancies. Not once. And my successful ones were a DS and a DD.

Withalittlesparkle Wed 03-Apr-13 22:54:05

Oooooh Jen, twins!! How exciting!! Lol!!!

GTT tomorrow!rubbish

keepitgoing Thu 04-Apr-13 03:48:01

Good luck sparks!!

I have v bad wind too, and it's not twins here jen. Yesterday I had lots of v small meals and lay down after dinner and it was a bit better. I've never had wind before, never knew how painful it could be!

Thanks Bartlett That is hilarious re your ds! 14 days to my scan...

Withalittlesparkle Thu 04-Apr-13 11:30:26

Thanks keep!!

15 mins to go so I've successfully gone 15 hours without eating and not passing out!! Amazing!!!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 04-Apr-13 11:31:24

Ok I have a question do you have to have a GTT after baby is born? There just seems to be a few people here with fairly young babies, or are they all doing a Jen?!

JenFreggle Thu 04-Apr-13 12:50:35

I had my GTT at 28 weeks because my DM is diabetic

Glad it is all over for you Sparks hope you rewarded yourself with a lovely lunch. I will have a gtt when booby is 6 weeks old but only because I have gd, otherwise I have never been offered repeat gtt with teen or toddly.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 04-Apr-13 14:25:47

Jen mine is because I've got PCOS, a bit annoying really because if I'd not pushed for them to start investigating my irregular periods I wouldn't have had the scan that confirmed the presence of cysts! The scan was done the week before AF started, the last AF!! 5 weeks later I found out I was diffed!!!

Boo I assume that's what those women were there for then because they were little babies, not sort of 16/28 week old babies!!

DinoSnores Thu 04-Apr-13 15:02:18

sparks, you'll only be offered a GTT at 6 weeks if this one is positive. It's because when diabetes is diagnosed in pregnancy, we don't know if it is just gestational diabetes or if it is diabetes that just happened to be picked up in pregnancy. Everyone with a normal postpartum GTT should then be offered an annual fasting glucose as there is a 50% chance of developing 'proper' diabetes after having GDM.

Anyway, trying out the namechange. Not sure what I think yet. I did like one another thread when someone (not one of us, so a stranger!) said that she recognised me and thought I seemed sensible and wondered what I thought. [smug] smile

Withalittlesparkle Thu 04-Apr-13 16:01:43

Ah that makes sense then!!

Woo hoo, I have had a brilliant bargain day smile got £50 worth of beautiful crib bedding for £15, all brand new from my local FB selling page, and I finally ordered my first sling, I went for the lovely stretchy Joy and Joe grin happy day!!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 04-Apr-13 21:40:33

Love a good bargain

GreenOlives Fri 05-Apr-13 09:08:59

Good shopping boo! smile
I have just ordered a mei tai style sling from another bargainous website called Daisybaby - just saying in case anyone fancied a look, they do all sorts of baby stuff and also have an ebay shop! winkgrin

Ooh, put a pic on FB Olives sounds lovely smile

I have seen the mw this morning everything fine with booby no sign of being engaged but apparently that can be normal. She was a little dismissing about my bouncing efforts on the ball, I thought bouncing now would be a benefit in the long run hmm is it worth keeping up with it or just wait for labour to start and use it then?

keepitgoing Fri 05-Apr-13 11:09:13

Come on booby. Engage with your mother!

Are names sorted, boo?

Names are pretty much sorted Keep, 2 or 3 of each I'm really hoping that when I meet booby one will seem like the right one. It is very different, with teen and toddly there was only ever one name they were going to have, it is worrying me a little, just hope one of the names 'fit' iynwim.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 05-Apr-13 11:40:36

Boo now we need 'the list'

keepitgoing Fri 05-Apr-13 11:52:18

Yes. List, please.

Now now, patience ladies, not long to wait you will find out what we decide wink

keepitgoing Fri 05-Apr-13 15:05:35

But maybe we can help... <wheedles>

Have you definitely ruled out Booby, then. I think it suits him...

Withalittlesparkle Fri 05-Apr-13 15:12:37

I think it should be a brookers vote!!! I have my name picked out so I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours

Um, I think booby has been pushed down the list a little (behind Norman, Brian and Tarquin grin)

I can't stop eating today. Fish and chips for tea I've decided but not sure if I'll be able to wait til 6 when DH gets home

Withalittlesparkle Fri 05-Apr-13 15:54:17

Tarquin Booby is an amazing name!!!

grin how did you guess Sparks I was trying to hide the real name in with the others grin

shock I actually did it, pulled my finger out and actually got my bag ready grin

Withalittlesparkle Fri 05-Apr-13 19:13:08

TIme to go in to labour then?!

Mrsparks has announced we have a 3d scan booked for tomorrow!! How exciting!!!

Ooh, what a lovely surprise for you smilesmile you must tell us all about it!

Yes, I have had words with bumpy booby and an eviction notice has been served!

Withalittlesparkle Fri 05-Apr-13 21:39:13

Soooooo what's boobys name?

Withalittlesparkle Sat 06-Apr-13 09:33:30

That was hands down the highlight of my pregnancy!! Twinks is already the cutest little munch!! According to the measurements 72nd percentile (NHS has me at 90th from fundal height and 10th from scan measurements) but the sonographer was much more thorough so I'm inclined to believe the private scan!!

Aah too cute!!!! 72nd sounds much more likely given yours and DH's heights. I can't imagine how amazing it was seeing his little face and little hands [over excited] smilesmile

keepitgoing Sat 06-Apr-13 10:37:36

Yay sparks! How different is it to the normal ultrasound scan?

Withalittlesparkle Sat 06-Apr-13 13:08:34

Very different keep, you can see so much detail!! Def worth paying for!

How are you feeling today?

Withalittlesparkle Sun 07-Apr-13 09:14:36

Just a thought from yesterday, should I worry if my baby is breech? I'm assuming at 29 weeks he still has enough time/space to turn

keepitgoing Sun 07-Apr-13 09:21:35

I'd think so sparks <clueless>

I'm ok, thanks. Suffering quite a bit with really surprisingly painful wind, partic in the evenings, and waking up crazy early. Counting down the days till my scan (11)...

keepitgoing Sun 07-Apr-13 09:27:00

My book says it'll change a lit between 28 weeks and birth. He still has a way to grow x

Don't panic, there is plenty of time for twinkle to move down.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 07-Apr-13 10:55:57

Thanks ladies that's what I thought bit just wanted to check!

Mr sparks decided he wanted to gather some supplies after seeing that twinks is a proper baby now!! Reckon I might be the only person who has a semi hospital bag packed at 29 weeks!!!

On a plus note he has a started to realise how hard post birth might be!! He now knows what nipple pads and nipple cream are for lol

Ooh, that's a steep learning curve for him, has he encountered the maternity pads yet? Good to be organised though grin

Withalittlesparkle Sun 07-Apr-13 11:23:28

I snuck those in to the trolley, I'd just had to explain about leaky nipples I didn't want to have to explain about other parts of me leaking as well!

He did suggest a nice new pair of pjs with a nice kimono dressing gown which I didn't turn him down!

For the first few days I lived in black trousers with long black tops as I was paranoid about leaking through my pad and as I was wearing the thick ones, people seeing the pad through my clothes. The thick pads were a must, I was changing them multiple times an hour some days so the thin ones would never have coped with that level of blood loss

keepitgoing Sun 07-Apr-13 11:32:28

<buries head further in sand>

Withalittlesparkle Sun 07-Apr-13 11:33:25

I think I've bought the thick ones and when it came to the pjs thry're black bottoms!!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 07-Apr-13 11:36:17

Keep your time will come!!!

Same here Rubber, I have black PJ's packed and a black robe (just in case) and many many packs of thick maternity pads ready.

Come on Keep start taking notes grin

I think I changed to thin pads at around 4-5 weeks. Lochia lasted for 7 weeks in total and AF returned a month after that.

keepitgoing Sun 07-Apr-13 12:32:54

shock at, well, everything really...

Withalittlesparkle Sun 07-Apr-13 12:38:00

Hahaha poor keep!! We may be scaring her!!

Is now a good time to say I've bought black towels and big black pants? Haha

Ooh you can't beat a big black pant!! Did you get them in primarni? That's where mine came from wink don't forget to put spare bags in you hospital bag so DH can take stuff home for washing!

Rubber I'm not sure I thanked you properly for taking that AF for me grin

Withalittlesparkle Sun 07-Apr-13 20:40:01

Asda pants are where it's at!!!!

I've just cried at Ashley banjos street crew... Tell me I'll be normal once I've given birth?!

Of course you will be absolutely fine after twinkle is here [convincing liar] grin

Withalittlesparkle Sun 07-Apr-13 22:09:26

Hahaha it's going to get worse isn't it?!

How's booby getting on?

Keep have you found a way to relieve the bloating? Keep up your fluids and try a rennie!!!

keepitgoing Mon 08-Apr-13 02:12:37

Where's booby? Any news?

sparks it's 40 degrees here so I am drinking pretty much non stop. I have not found anything that works other than bum in the air but will see if I can get a rennies. Thanks!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 08-Apr-13 07:23:41

Sometimes the only cure for wind is a gold old farting session!!

Where are we at now 10 days till scan day?!

I had a terrible night sleep, twinks appears to be trying to force himself out through my belly button head first using my spine as a spring board!!! Reckon I clocked about 2 hours of the most restless sleep ever!! So tired for work today but it has to be done! Every day I get up brings me a day closer to my glorious 62 weeks off!! 6 weeks 4 days grin

Keep booby is exactly where we left it, I'm afraid it's never coming out, seems extremely comfy and planning on staying put sad Bum up is the only way I have found of clearing wind, hope you start to feel better soon.

Sparks I hope you have an easy day and manage to get some rest later. Woo hoo for that 6 week count down smile

Frootloopz Mon 08-Apr-13 09:18:45

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Ooh hello Froot I would say at that stage, it is looking very much like mini Froot is about to say hello smilesmile if it was me, I would be getting some snacks ready and walking to encourage things along.

keepitgoing Mon 08-Apr-13 09:39:00

62 weeks off?!?!?! How's that? Wow, can't believe just six weeks now. Hypocrite, me, as till 12 weeks seems forever away.

Yep, 10 days till scan, its next Thursday.

Boobydoo, come out, come out wherever you are...

keepitgoing Mon 08-Apr-13 09:39:47

Ooh gosh, good luck froot!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 08-Apr-13 12:28:54

Yes froot i think I'd be double checking my hospital bag and walking as much as possible sounds like those period pains might actually be contractions!!!

6 weeks till mat leave, 10 weeks till baby (unless he is late)

Work is being tooooo bad, It's a fairly quiet period for us so atleast I don't have anything stressy going on!! I do have my whooping cough vaccine booked for this afternoon though, cus I obviously was jabbed enough last week!!!!

Keep from BFP to 12 weeks is definitely the longest wait, then 12 to 20 is a little more bearable! But you have us to keep you company!!!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 08-Apr-13 14:34:01

Major itchy boob going on today!!! Surely it's home time?!

Yep, it's a well known fact that an itchy boob means home time grin

My Joy and Joe sling arrived today, I have read the instructions confused I don't even dare unfold it from its little pockety foldy uppy thing it arrived in hmm I think you tube is the way forward!! (May also help not having a massive baby bump where I'm supposed to wrap it grin)

GreenOlives Mon 08-Apr-13 17:53:14

I didn't try mine until the bump was gone boo! grin Its surprisingly easy once you've done it a couple of times -- I still can't get it to fold up into its pocket again though!-- grin

GreenOlives Mon 08-Apr-13 17:53:40

strike out fail! grin

I will take your word for it Olives grin DH's face was a picture trying to work out the instructions confused

Any news to share Froot or are you busy with newborn snuggles?

Withalittlesparkle Tue 09-Apr-13 07:08:44

Oh god my arm is killing from yesterday's whooping cough vaccine!! And I've obviously reached that stage where sleep is more of a chore than anything else!

Froot any news?!

Boo did you find a video for your sling? I really want one but am under advice from my sister to wait until after twinks has arrived and then go to a sling library!!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 09-Apr-13 07:53:53

Oh and for the record I have the nicest midwife ever!! She bumped in to me yesterday at the doctors and rather just walking passed and saying hello she came over to find out how I was doing! When I told her about the measurement issue last week she asked to see my notes and just doubled checked everything was ok, she's not concerned by the measurements and said the hospital midwife handled it very badly!!

Oh what a lovely mw you have Sparks very nice she took the time to chat and check on you. You may find your arm feels a bit like it was kicked by a horse forfora couple of days. I found the jab didn't hurt at all and after was the worst.

Frootloopz Tue 09-Apr-13 19:18:43

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 09-Apr-13 19:43:25

Yay congrats team frootz

Aaw congratulations, that's fantastic news, well done family Froot thanks

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 03:05:12


Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 06:56:22

Boooooooo I've woken up with a cold!!! I've only just got over a chest infection so how in the world is that fair?! Still 6 weeks 2 days till maternity leave, I'll just battle on!

Froot hope you and mini froot are having lots of snuggly cuddles!!

Keep is it 8 days or 9 now?

Boo any mOvement from booby? Does booby not know about the eviction notice being served next week?!

GreenOlives Wed 10-Apr-13 07:36:49

Congratulations froot Lovely news grin thanks

Oh Sparks that's poo indeed!! Hopefully it won't last long.

No sign of booby packing its bags or getting ready to move out at all, I think it will come as a surprise to the poor thing when it is evicted.

TheLittleFriend Wed 10-Apr-13 09:48:50

Congratulations Frootz, looking forward to hearing all about her smile

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 10:35:27

Booby will invoke squatters' rights, and want to stay forced :-)

It's eight days, sparks, well less than that now. And I'm 6+5 today and feeling sick the last two days <proud>

That's poo you're feeling sick. Still, not long now, so just show up at work and take it easy...

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 10:38:12

*want to stay forever. (I'm channelling imps)

grin Keep I am so pleased you're feeling sick wink that's brilliant news!

I do think at this point I will actually be pregnant forever!!! I have been nesting again and everything is ready for booby's arrival but it feels like a waste of time as clearly this child is clearly never coming out shockwink I suppose I have to be patient, I am only just coming up to 37 weeks, ages to go yet!!!!

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 10:52:16

Yay to you feeling sick Keep smile Its the best reason to feel rotten!!
Oh for the record, just in case the sickness gets worse or you struggle to cope, it is absolutely acceptable sit on the bathroom floor hugging your knees, crying declaring how unfair it is and that you just want to die personal experience AND if Mr Keep tries to be dutiful and caring and insists on sitting in the bathroom rubbing your back while you projectile vomit it is not OK for him to comment on the smell of your vomit (mine often smelt of haribo, go figure) but it is OK for you to tell him to "get the f* off/out" and to not expect him to take it personally again personal experience

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 10:53:36

<lights fire>

Once again I'm ready to smoke a brooking baby out!!!

Jealous that you're 37 weeks!! masses ahead of me and Im ready for him to come now!!

Pmsl @ your ms advice Sparks grin

I was talking to some other mum's at play group and we agreed that 30 weeks would actually be the perfect amount of time for pregnancy smile I may take you up on smoking this little one out!! Hey ho, Monday will soon be here and they had better will discuss the timetable for it.

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 11:27:05

Oh god sparks. I hope it stays minimal.

Elephants have two years, boo...

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 11:38:18

keep are you saying boo is an elephant?! harsh!!!!

gringrin cheeky!!

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 11:57:25


I'm so freaking tired but don't sleep at night.

Ooh I get to do the first one grin I'm so happy!! Ready for it ...............

Keep that's normal I'm afraid.

grin that will happen a lot with the most random symptoms.

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 12:35:11

Ha! Ok, will take your word for it...

Is it time to mention pregnancy constipation? I found that having All Bran for breakfast every day meant I didn't get constipated

It's never too early for the constipation chat smilesmile or thrush or piles or nose bleeds I think I have only had a couple of occasions of really bad constipation, but it was when I was changing my diet to the gd diet so I think it was inevitable understandable.

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 13:56:54

Dont you just love how we're the perfect poster children for the 'pregnancy is beautiful and wonderful' school of thought.

Oh the wonderful joys of being shattered but completely unable to sleep at bed time! I dont know if you can get hold of it but Im sure you could find an alternative, I bought a mum and me relaxing spray when I was in first trimester, I think it was lavender and canomille or something like that. I found that really helps, mostly because the smell of everything just made me want to vomit and that would keep me up more than anything!!

Ah I've only had two bouts of the old preggo constipation but then luckily Twinks made me crave fruit so thats helped!!!

When your ready keep we'll start discussing the heartburn... and then the weeing.... and the swelling...... smile

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 15:07:27

my hot chocolate tastes of spoon sad

Let us not forget the leaky norks leaky fanjo and runny nose. I was on an embarrassing pregnant bodies thread a couple of weeks ago and a lot of them were talking about drooling in their sleep and snoring grin

Poster girls indeed gringrin

Oh Sparks that is sadsadsadsadsadsad

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 15:40:33

yes yes about the snoring, Ive actually started snorting myself awake!! It has MrS in absolute fits!!!

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 16:34:58

Lucky you girls keep this off the other brooking thread or people might be put off!

Where's Jen? Just puking her guts out so not here...

I'm mistaken that pregnancy is just a small neat neat bump, glowing skin, and a sneeze birth? Nooooo

Speaking if sneezes, was that froot's first?

Nope, I'm here and not puking. I'm convinced this one is a boy as I'm now 7 weeks with no sickness and last time started puking at 5+4 grin

Why did you think we had a grads thread Keep? Did you think it was so we could bask in the glow of pg with out making the others envy oh no, it is so we can discuss leaking, snoring, swelling and aching without putting the others off before it's too late grin

Ooh Rubber maybe you just used up your vom quota last time?

Just wait until you move up to post grad, it's one thing to have to put up with your own body doing unpleasant things, totally different when somebody else is pooing and puking over you smile

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 18:25:37

Rubber I wouldn't bet on it, projectile vomit at least 3 times from weeks 6 to 18, was 100% convinced that meant girl but this one definitely has boy bits!!!!

FFS, that's it, had enough now, I am actually crying at Ashley bloody Banjo bloody secret street dance programme blush I have definitely been pregnant too long now!!!!!!

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 21:20:47

Bahahaha didn't I say that on Wednesday? Was it the one with the farmers? Cus it was when the one was talking about feeling he'd wasted time by not spending it with his children and how he just wanted to make them proud!!!

Yeah it was the bloody farmer one, I had completely forgotten you did too, don't feel quite as bad now smile

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 22:09:26

We're all totally normal smile

Withalittlesparkle Thu 11-Apr-13 09:25:31

Boo I'll see your crying at Ashley Banjo and raise you a crying because I thought I'd lost a bracelet (I suddenly realised at midnight last night that I hadnt seen it for a while)

<snigger> oh dear, had you actually lost it?

I actually welled up last week because I asked Mr B to bring me some paracetamol for my hospital bag and he brought the horrible round ones not the nice capsuals, I didn't actually cry but very nearly!!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 11-Apr-13 09:37:28

Id worn it last weekend and put it in my camera bag when we were travelling home so technically no it wasn't lost, it was just in the very last place I looked!!!

Is paracetamol your only pain relief?! Tempted to get some asda corner beef so I can benefit from its bute content lol

grin <snigger> at least you found it.

The paracetamol is for after, I remember last time the mw's were quite often busy when you wanted needed some, so I am taking my own just in case, they helped with the kicked in the fanjo by a horse feeling ache after.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 11-Apr-13 09:49:23

Is that the same horse that kicked you in the arm after your whooping cough jab?! I think your horse might have anger management issues!!!

Gosh yes there is a lot of horse kicking in the boo house, I clearly need to expand my descriptive language blush

keepitgoing Thu 11-Apr-13 10:57:01

I'm sure paracetamol will be more than enough for your quick sneeze both boo <naive>

Sorry jen I didn't realise that was you.

Five day weekend and we're off out of the stinky city tomorrow morning!! That should make the next five days go faster than these other endless ones, right?

Ooh where are you off to on your long weekend Keep, sounds like a very well timed trip.

I won't even need the paracetamol the sneeze will be that fast <pats Keep on the head, will tell her the truth later grin>

How you feeling Rubber, any symptoms to report?

keepitgoing Thu 11-Apr-13 12:15:29

Going to the countryside for waterfalls, forests and swimming, boo. Will be great, but hot.

Chocolate cookies are going down particularly well this afternoon...

Ooh that sounds lovely Keep, I am going to try and get to the coast this weekend, this is possibly the last weekend just the 4 of us shock

Withalittlesparkle Thu 11-Apr-13 19:12:06

Which coast boo? Aren't you pretty central?

Keep sounds like a fab way to spend a weekend but you'll prob end up spoiling it by vomming smile

I ended up back down the craft store this evening. I'm making a throw for the nursery and have already worked through 9 balls of yarn!!! Bought another 6 tonight shock I think my fingers may start bleeding soon!'m

I am so envy of practical crafting, I love x stitch but it has no practical value, Judy usually end up in a drawer with a promise I will frame them one day.

Were looking at going to either Filey or Bridlington (possibly Scarborough) they are about 2 hours drive. Teen boo struggles in busy places so we're avoiding Blackpool and skeggy. Just fancy a day out and treat them before the madness descends.

I've felt a little bit sick a couple of times and am exhausted constantly not helped by dd being up 5 times last night but that is it so far.

Have a great time Keep

Withalittlesparkle Thu 11-Apr-13 20:05:15

Boo we were in Bridlington Easter weekend!! Loved it

Rubber I guess it's harder to cope with the symptoms when there's another child in tow but it'll be totally worth it

Ooh Rubber those symptoms are starting to creep up on you then, is that annoying or reassuring?? When will you have your booking in appointment?

Keep what is the ante natal care over there is it similar to here?? Will you be back here before your due date? That will mean some sort of hand over of the information, is that easy to organise? Sorry, full of questions tonight.

I'm waiting for my booking appointment letter to come

Withalittlesparkle Thu 11-Apr-13 22:34:28

Look at boo with all the questions tonight, quite the social butterfly smile

Rubber how are you feeling about the how being differed thing now? Getting used to the idea?

MrSparkes presented me with a new weekend bag today, well to use as a hospital bag, it's one I'd been listing over for quite a while but couldn't justify it (I have expensive tastes) anyway apparently because we had to cancel our anniversary weekend due to snow and the fact I really don't enjoy hotels any more he decided to spend some of the money treating me smile

Morning smilesmilesmile I have reached 37 whole weeks as of today, come on booby it's time now!!!! Do we still do symptom spotting for labour?

How is everyone else?

Sorry Sparks completely forgot to compliment Mr S on getting the bag, what a love!!!!!

keepitgoing Fri 12-Apr-13 11:49:03

Ooh boo congrats! Now, come on booby.

sparks what a lovely dh.

boo my ivf doc seems to want to keep me till I go home, so I'll need to check he can do all the right tests etc. Will ask next week, if all's ok,. Will be moving home to an unknown location and dh an unknown job and me no job at 21 weeks. This brings geek out in cold sweat on my behalf but we're used to it. The life of a doctor <sigh> am a bit worried about sorting AN care at that point but hey, people must move all the time. Right.... smile

Withalittlesparkle Fri 12-Apr-13 14:48:02

Keep you should totally move near me! Very highly thought of hospital AND great maternity care (plus it'd be nice for me)

No no move near me grin I can just imagine Geek trying to do her spreadsheet with all the unknown bits grin

Well if you're staying with the Dr, I'm sure everything will be taken care of.

keepitgoing Sat 13-Apr-13 11:54:43

Hmm, well we won't get a choice, unfortunately. Nhs does national recruitment. His interview is on the 24th, so brooking please. He has to fly home, so its v expensive for us, so hope he gets one of the v few jobs...

Withalittlesparkle Sat 13-Apr-13 12:06:49

I'm brooking, but harder for a more central location grin

keepitgoing Sat 13-Apr-13 12:57:05

Where are you?

Brooking hard that he is offered something, have I ever mentioned that the Peak District is just lovely at any time of year??? grin

Withalittlesparkle Sat 13-Apr-13 15:26:17

West Midlands, not wanting to narrow it down tooooooo much on MN lol actually in the grand scheme of this boo and I aren't actually a million miles away!! Well about an hour and a halves drive I think

Ooh I didn't realise you were so close Sparks I feel a summertime meet up may be in order smilesmile ooh, what if we find a location between us for Keep and Mr K to move to, that would be perfect!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 13-Apr-13 18:38:22

Ah yes because I happen to loooove things around your end.... Which sounds super duper wrong!!!

I get what you mean Sparks it is beautiful here smile

My crying update for today is <drum roll> ............ Britain's Got Talent blush