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July 2013 - thread 5 - baby kicks and scan pics, we're halfway there!

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dinkystinky Sat 16-Feb-13 20:04:23

New thread to natter on. Will go find the due date thread to link on in a tick...

dinkystinky Sat 16-Feb-13 20:06:07

Right - link to waddlers and riders list

Fingers crossed that works...

VinegarDrinker Sat 16-Feb-13 20:45:40

Hello smile
Just on my way home from a long day at work. 13 hr shifts tomorrow and Monday too.
Hope you are all having good weekends anyway!

flyingsprocket Sat 16-Feb-13 20:45:46

Well done dinky I'm amazed at how much you've crammed in today despite feeling ill. Get well soon

thinking lemon bread & butter pudding sounds gorgeous, sounds like you deserve it!

I made yummy raspberry bakewell slices having had one in Costa yesterday. To mark 5 weeks of bleeding today, I may have more than one blush

Wow, have only just caught up on a week's worth of thread after spending half term with family.

re: comments on size, I'm also super sensitive. I had 'wow, 18 weeks, you look good for 18 weeks' - spent the rest of the day agonising over whether that meant I was wow=big or wow=small. It was clearly just meant as a kind comment. I don't think there's anything people can say about size that won't make a hormonal pregnant woman miserable, they should just comment on my hair or something non-bump related grin

I held a random stranger's newborn today while she put her wrap sling on in a coffee shop. It didn't make me broody in the way it would have done before, just bloody terrified as I realised I have no clue what to do with a newborn. I've bought so much stuff, but like someone else said I'm only now realising that there's a tiny helpless person coming my way. Ahk!

I think I felt something last night that was different - I'm sure it felt like a little kick from inside - I think what I've had so far is just my own heartbeat. Although it could have just been gas this time. Did feel a bit like the big bubbles you get before a burp/fart (sorry tmi) is about to surface, come to think of it.

As for reusable nappies, I had better bloody well use them as I've spent a ton! Got a range of types to try out, either ebay (unused but pre-washed) or in various online sales and offers. Some teenyfits and kissaluvs for first few months, a couple little lambs and totsbots with thirsties wraps, then a few BTP pocket nappies of various brands. Intending to use disposables at least for the meconium stage though, sounds totally gross and don't want to ruin the nappies as soon as they're used!

Sorry for long post and I know I'm missing out on loads, it's taken me so long to catch up!


Cutandstick Sat 16-Feb-13 20:59:32

dinky never got to. My big shop, found two bagels in the bottom of my school bag blush ...maybe tomorrow. Might aim to do our first online shop this week - it's definitely something I want to start. We're lucky our nearest supermarket is small. The big one near work is overwhelmingly big and kills me getting round it!

photographerlady Sat 16-Feb-13 21:45:08

Evening all. Not even 1/4 unpacked, and that's the moving van in the front drive. We are both exhausted and up again at 6am to lug more in the house then off to ikea for a sofa. Moving is just too much hard work I can't wait til next weekend so I can sleep in heehee.

TomDaleysTrunks Sat 16-Feb-13 21:54:10

Marking my place.

Cutandstick Sat 16-Feb-13 22:57:35

Anyone else got sore/odd feeling nipples? Mine hurt a crazy amount of I'm cold at the moment but I'm getting pain what feels like behind the nipple. Mainly one, but not exclusively. Is this normal?!

MummyKanny Sat 16-Feb-13 23:00:28

Marking my place too! Thanks for a new thread dinky - aren't we chatty?!

I don't know how to add myself to the list, but due date is 18 July, am 18+2 with my first. I definitely have a paunch now and boobs continue to grow!

I've been feeling some movement in the last day or so, or at least I think so. Feels a bit like a muscle spasm behind my belly button. Seem to notice it more when I'm tired. Can't wait for kicks! I'm sure everyone is looking forward to their 20 week scan?

Also road tested a few pushchairs, what a minefield! confused Anyone chosen theirs yet?


Runswithsquirrels Sat 16-Feb-13 23:21:15

cut my nipples are agony if its a teensy bit cold! It's been the one constant symptom throughout. And I mean, it gets really painful! They're like cold weather detectors.

AmaDablam Sun 17-Feb-13 08:02:37

Morning all, thanks for starting the new thread dinky, I think we're up to more than one a month now!!

Fab news on more great scans and exciting times for people finding out the gender. On count down to mine now - 2 weeks and a day to go!

Sorry to hear you're still bleeding flying. I love those bakewell slices they do at Costa too, although I'm sure home-made ones would be even yummier!

Good news on the baby movement guavas and MummyK. Mine feel quite like the pre-fart/burp gurgles that seem such a prominent feature of pg too, but different too as they seem deeper inside and said gas doesn't emerge! I've been getting quite a few now (I think), mainly in the evenings and in bed just before I drop off to sleep. I'm starting to find now that I get a weird feeling when I bend at the middle as well too, not at all painful, just like something is being squashed that shouldn't be. Time to start remembering the "knees not back" mantra when I pick something up off the floor!

cut I wouldn't say my nipples are really painful but they've started tingling over the last week or so, which they never did really in the 1st trimester, despite what all the books say. Occasionally I get a sharp stabbing pain but it only last a couple of seconds. Hope yours start to feel better soon.

Re. nappies, I'm still undecided on the cloth/disposable debate but going to see a friend in a couple of weeks who used cloth ones exclusively for both her DCs (not sure what make) and has offered us the lot now her youngest is dry. I hope to talk to her about the pros and cons and maybe take up her kind offer. As I mentioned when this topic came up a while back, the washing and drying of them does fill me with a bit of a panic, especially as we don't have a tumble dryer and nowhere really to put one. Maybe a mixture is the way to go - even if we just use one or two re-usables a day it will surely help the environment (and our wallets) a little.

Well, I started my Sunday by spilling a whole tub of sugar all over the hob and worktop - aargh! It really is a bugger to clean up angry. Still, I thought, I'd better get used to this given that my (somewhat idyllic) vision of the future involves lots of happy hours spent baking with DC!!

Have a lovely day everyone smile

18 weeks today

BB01 Sun 17-Feb-13 08:16:58

Oh dear had meant to comment on lots but forgotten most of it now I've flipped to this thread!

Kanny, yep just started properly looking at pushchairs. Still very confused. Have discovered I'm immensely fussy re the look of them. Only ones I loved were icandy. Have had free ones offered to us to use until we know what we need but if I'm spending ridiculous amount on a gorgeous one don't want to have to wait until baby's six months' old to have it. Apparently waiting list is that long for some models! Also worried re weight and chunkiness. Didn't really see any I liked that weren't quite huge but will be walking, public transporting and driving so really need an all rounder. Which ones have u been looking at?

Someone commented on Gap jeans having big bum. Yes, someone gave me some and love em but totally unwearable at the mo due to saggy bum area! My bum's really not that small!

Guavas you are so right about size comments. Better avoided altogether! Makes me feel better anyway to realise they can't really say anything right!

wifey6 Sun 17-Feb-13 08:21:46

Hi July mummies-to-be...can't keep up with the threads..moving so fast..but like to read as much as I can, when I can. Hope everyone is keeping well. Will keep popping in x

Cheeseandbread Sun 17-Feb-13 08:30:41

Thanks for starting a new thread dinky I hope you are feeling better.

Congratulations tom on the driving test!

phoyographer hope you ate moving stuff ok

So lovely to hear of everyone's good scans and lots more pink and blue appearing!

I went to my first nct nearly new sale yesterday had to try and stick my tummy out so it looked like I belonged I felt a bit overwhelmed surrounded by big bumps and actual children and babies... Managed to pick up a Moses basket and stand and a wrap for bean so was very chuffed. I was extra smiley carrying it home- bit of a walk back to my house and it got heavy... Couldn't persuade DH to come though he was pleased when I got home with my treasures.

We are staying with some friends this weekend who have a 4 month old and they have just given is some newborn clothes- I couldn't stop stating at them- very exciting.

I'm not sure the real baby bit has sunk in for me yet- maybe sub-consciously I'm not letting it. I think it will after the scan.

Have lovely Sundays- all your baking issuing me hungry!


Devilforasideboard Sun 17-Feb-13 08:42:47

I do love a shiny new thread!

Kanny and BB I managed to drag DH out to look at pushchairs yesterday and we both want an icandy now. It just feels so much sturdier than everything else we've tried although I do like the Quinny Buzz as well. My parents are paying but I'm thinking of doing without the carrycot to ease the financial pain. Could anyone tell me if a carrycot essential or could we manage with just the carseat and slings until Bobble is big enough for the pushchair bit?

Cheese would you say the NCT sale was worth going to then? I'm a bit scared for some reason but there's one near us in March I was thinking of going to.

Huffpot Sun 17-Feb-13 09:15:57

Marking place and totally agree with sore nipples - mine are agony if they get cold!

MightBeMad Sun 17-Feb-13 09:22:10

Ooh I found you all! Thanks for the link from the other thread. Taking a leaf out of photographers book this morning -pancakes!!


OhGood Sun 17-Feb-13 10:00:56

Marking my place - good weekends all!

Huffpot my boobs have grown so much that when I wonder around naked I keep just bumping the tops of my nipples on doors, cupboards etc. Agony! And excuse the mental image everyone. I am now fairly enormous - had put on 5 kgs by 16 weeks <horror>

SlouchingPanda Sun 17-Feb-13 10:01:53

Hi Team - Happy New Thread (thanks, Dinky)!

Having a lovely lazy Sunday today after a knackering 20 mile cycle yesterday. I feel so unfit - no reserves at all. Going for blood tests tomorrow before my consultant appt in a week or so. I am hoping I can blame anaemia, but it's more likely to be lack of exercise and too much chocolate.

Photographer hope your move goes smoothly... having all your crockery in boxes is an excellent excuse for take out, I find.

Still in awe of all you organised people with buggy and nappy chat. Head firmly in sand here. However, re. pushchairs, I have been recommended the Uppababy Vista (?). Any experiences, anyone?

Guavas, the movements I feel are a little bit like a fish flipping over inside, between my bellybutton and pubic bone. Occasionally there's a big poke, but am knocking on 19.5 weeks now...

Finally, hope the shifts have been kind to you, Vinegar, and that you get some rest after Monday.


McKTastic Sun 17-Feb-13 10:25:35

Hello all smile

Loving the chat - managing to read the thread but no wifi in our temp accommodation so everything takes ages! Am rubbish at commenting regularly & in awe of those of you who do.

Hope you're settling in photolady. I was ab knackered the week we moved but have now settled in to smaller surroundings & getting into the swing of making decisions re renovations.

Have a consultant apt on Tues after 16wk bloods. Apparently we're high risk & they want to discuss further testing. Got two letters from them - one with an apt for last wk & another for new apt after we missed last weeks. Am irrationally angry that MW told me any results outwith the suggested 'normal' range would be communicated by phone & that given the date of first letter they've had the results available since beg of last week. Am pretty sure we won't test further but has anyone on here any experience of having to do so? Am hoping 20wk scan would give us a better picture of what's to come but also going to look into another private one & see if they can do a detailed look. Why is pregnancy such a minefield when it's one of the most amazing things we do?

Sorry it's me,me,me. Re buggies we used a borrowed Quinny Buzz with carrycot till DD was about 8 months, bought the cross country wheel for the front second hand & it made a big difference to ease of use. Friends have had Bugaboos & Uppababy Vista & raved about both.

Have used Bumgenius V4 nappies with DD & love them. Use disposable liners during day & homemade fleece ones (blanket from IKEA) at night. We lived in a flat till she was over a year & no tumble dryer but as long as I kept up to date with the washing it was ok.

mysterymeg Sun 17-Feb-13 10:44:21

devil we've gone for the icandy peach jogger and have bought the carrycot too. Think the main thing about carseats is that baby is only allowed to be in one for up to two hours in the beginning. Fine if just popping out but if you drove half an hour each way somewhere you'd only have an hour carseat on pram time iyswim.

TomDaleysTrunks Sun 17-Feb-13 12:13:14

Morning all.

I'm bed bound with awful sinusitis. Antibiotics aren't shifting it and can't move my head much as its so sore. Propped up on pillows, watching the beautiful day go by and listening to DD and DH cause havoc downstairs.

I'm off to catch up with the thread.

cutandstick my nipples are definitely very sensitive to the cold. They get tingly and a bit sore when I'm out for a run.

I'm going to pick up some second hand re-usable nappies I found on freecycle this afternoon. We've used disposables with DD, mainly due to living in flats where our laundry took forever to dry until recently. Hopefully they'll be in a usable condition and I can give them a go. I'm reluctant to pay out for them when I'm not really sure they'll be a success.

Guavas Re: broodiness disappearing. I did the anaesthetics for an elective Caesarian list on Friday. (first week back at work for 2 years). I felt a bit emotional when the first baby was born, but I was completely 'over it' for the next two!

Think I'm feeling a few movements in bed at night, but not that convincing every night. My mum commented that my 'bump is coming along nicely' today, which made me smile It felt really reassuring.

dinkystinky Sun 17-Feb-13 15:33:06

Hello all - am up north at friends place for a couple of days and enjoying the beautiful spring weather.

Vinegar hope your shifts aren't too busy and you get some downtime to rest.

Mummykanny - just copy and paste the dates list in new post on the other thread and type yourself and the due date in at the relevant place. Only works if you're posting from a PC though.

Mcktastic - so sorry that you are being put through unnecessary stress in this way. Make sure you make a big list of questions you want to ask -including why you didn't get a phone call, what the issue is, why is it an issue, etc - and take it with you. Am keeping my fingers crossed all is OK.

Tom - you have my utmost sympathies. I suffered terrible sinusitis as a kid and know how debilitating it can be. Steam baths helped a tiny bit but barely touched the edges. Our nanny swears by acupuncture for shifting her sinusitis. Not sure which would be worse for me!

Totally - glad the return to work seems to be going smoothly.

Photographer - hope you have unpacked OK and are settling in well.

Tingly nipples not an issue here (though had it really badly with my other two pregnancies). Heavy jumpers at all times seemed to help abit as the cold definitely made it worse.

bigbelly4 Sun 17-Feb-13 16:24:32

mcktastic im too at high risk for downs 1:30 results over the phone from mw. Offered amnio but have declined it. 20 week scan will hopefully tell us more, but amnio is only test to diagnose on nhs. Thinkmost of the private tests are done v early 11-14 weeks. We did ask if 3d/4d scans showed more in termsof diagnosis but apparently not.

Anywho - havebeen having a lovely catch up with my oldest friend for the weekend.

MummyKanny Sun 17-Feb-13 16:35:35

Hi all!

AmaDablam that's exactly how it feels! You put it a lot better than me - a deep pre-fart feeling grin. It's very exciting and I'm really looking forward to feeling proper kicks.

devil - I think the benefit of the carrycot (according to the nice man in JL) is so that the baby can lie completely flat in it - which is recommended to support their back until three months. I'm sure someone with more experience will comment if I'm wrong!

We've done the most research over pushchairs. I was adamant that I didn't want a Bugaboo because everyone near me has one and I thought it was an overpriced fashion statement...but having seen it in the flesh and tried it out, I really want one now! The Uppababy Vista was my first choice on paper but in the flesh it was pretty wide (I'll be taking it on London buses) and quite difficult to fold and unfold. So none the wiser really.

I'm going to an NCT sale in March, hoping for a couple of bargains!

MummyKanny Sun 17-Feb-13 16:57:45

Thanks totallyeggflipped

I think it's also worth signing up to a trial of which.co.uk as they have loads of baby kit reviews on there. It's £1 for a month (and then £7.95 for each month after that) but seems to be pretty exhaustive on all things baby related.

Think I've over-researched pushchairs, if that's at all possible. Now my head is swimming with so many options, I can't make a decision!

photographerlady Sun 17-Feb-13 17:08:07

Evening all. Well moving was a crazy ordeal. Only one nerve wrecking moment with the moving van where my husband wedged it right into a side rail. Ok I'm being dramatic just he didn't go wide enough in a turn at ikea. We both panicked but every man in the car park to the rescue to take us into backing up safely.

I have unpacked 2 r

photographerlady Sun 17-Feb-13 17:12:27

...ooms. Stupid phone. Now taking a nap while DH is back in London cleaning the old flat. I love the new house. We had breakfast in the garden. Coming from London I haven't had a garden in ten years heehee. also discovered the local play park and open fields.. Like a 1 minute walk from our door.

Looking forward to my nap now seems my belly has increased overnight (or feels that way). Enjoy your Sunday everyone.

dinkystinky Sun 17-Feb-13 17:22:33

Glad the move went well (notwithstanding the IKEA car park incident) Photographer. Mummykanny - are you thinking bugaboo bee? Those would easily fit on buses but are difficult to fold one handed if need be (and depending on how busy the route is you may need to fold a lot). It was a main reason why I decided on baby jogger city versa in the end (and when baby is older we have beaten up old maclaren that ds1 and 2 have used which we can fold easily with squirming toddler under one arm if need be). If using on a train, or with stairs, weight should be a consideration too.

Thinkingof4 Sun 17-Feb-13 17:31:07

dinky thanks for new thread! Page 2 already!

Tom hope you are feeling better soon

photographer bet you are glad to have the move done before you get any bigger!

mcktastic hope you get some more answers soon

Can't remember who was making the bakewells (was it flying)
but they sound lovely (I'm on phone). The lemon bread and butter pud was lovely and leftovers for tonight too! We all deserve a wee treat at the moment don't we!

Cheeseandbread Sun 17-Feb-13 18:14:23

devil I found the nct sale worthwhile- was a bit in awe of all the other mums making their purchases though... As a first time mum I still don't really know what I need... There is another one in June so I'm hoping I'll have more of an idea then and can pick up some last minute deals. My Moses basket, stand and 7 fitted sheets cost me £15 which I thought was good. The wrap was £30 but I know they are expensive new too so didn't mind paying that. The sale was very busy so I think it's worth going with a list in mind so you can look for what you need in some sort of order.

I'm in the New forest for a couple of nights with DH- got a great last minute deal for some us time before I get big and bean arrives. Just had a nice bath and am enjoying a hot chocolate in our room before supper- feeling very smug grin

MightBeMad Sun 17-Feb-13 18:18:12

Ah, went on a lovely lovely ridgeway walk in the sunshine this afternoon but I'm shattered!!! Have just measured our route on the map and it was less than 5 miles. Felt like 10 times that!! I'm so unfit and I had thought I was doing quite well!!!

Oh well, nothing for it but more pancakes. Got to use up the mixture wink

flyingsprocket Sun 17-Feb-13 20:45:58

Oh cheese where are you staying. I was looking into spa breaks in the new forest recently, some amazing places.

I too walked the legs off myself today but unfortunately it was during the foggy, early morning. By the time we got back in the car the sun broke through.

BadMissM Sun 17-Feb-13 21:39:45

Cutandstick Get pain behind my left nipple too..but that's the one which kept getting mastitis with DD...

photographerlady Hope the move has gone OK xxx Having outside space is wonderful after being cooped up in London!

Tomdaleystrunks Get better soon xxxx

Dinky See, we do get sunshine up here sometimes!!! Been glorious today here too!

Now confused whether Dad had rant at pg or was just automatic rant...and whetehr he really heard me? (Though DD and DH are sure he did). He hasn't mentioned a word about it though, and DD reckons he hasn't told my mum.... either that or he's ignoring it and hoping it goes away?

Supershiv1 Sun 17-Feb-13 21:52:14

Nipples - yes! Painful - yes!
2nd bra size change yesterday. Now 40D and moved to wireless.
Have a week in the sun coming up and because of sudden bump popping out and mammoth boob growth am very concerned that summer clothes won't fit.....and wrong time of year for buying.....

elliejjtiny Sun 17-Feb-13 22:21:54

mcktastic I didn't have the nuchal/bloods so no experience of that but all our children have a 75% chance of having ehlers danlos syndrome type 3/benign congenital hypermobility syndrome so I understand a bit of what you're going through

photographer glad you are enjoying your new house, very jealous of you having the park so close

badmissm maybe your dad is just trying to pretend it's not happening. When I told my Dad (less scary than telling my mum!) he had a good ranting session and then not mentioned it again. I rang my mum up because it was her birthday a couple of weeks ago and she didn't mention it either.

Is anyone else feeling really uncomfortable? I keep pulling what's left of my stomach muscles just doing general housework and when I get up after sitting down I always need a wee. Not got a bump really although I was quite fat before. Going to be like a hippo soon! Also got no energy and feel really unfit. I was thinking about maybe trying a pregnancy yoga/pilates dvd to see if that helps, any recommendations?

This weekend I bought some new tunic style tops, trying to avoid the gap between maternity top and jeans. (I'm 5ft 1in, how can normal maternity tops not be long enough). Spent £100 on 3 tops, eek. Justified it to DH by saying it's that or I will have to be naked for the rest of the pregnancy. He said that my problem is I have too many clothes and if I looked properly I would find something that fits hmm.

Just a word of advice for those of you planning on using moses baskets etc. You don't need to buy sheets for them as a pillowcase is the perfect size and lots cheaper. I found them especially good with DS3 as he had reflux and puked a lot. It was easy to buy a load of pillowcases and we never had to worry about not having clean ones when they needed changing multiple times a day.

elliejjtiny Sun 17-Feb-13 22:22:27

20+2 (always forget that bit)

Twinklestarstwinklestars Mon 18-Feb-13 03:55:56

cutand stick my nipples are agony at the minute, ds laid on me for a cuddle and it was so painful!

We chose our pushchair yesterday, after i said i wouldn't get another and would use a sling this time blushwe've ordered a baby jogger city select in crimson and ordered a maxi cosi seat.

18 + 5

Calmisthemantra Mon 18-Feb-13 08:09:51

Morning all. We are a chatty lot! glad everyone seems to be progressing wellgrin

devil we have the iCandy strawberry with dd and looooove it. Feel sad that I will soon have to use a double (phil& teds). I really liked using the carrycot part of it, dd looked so comfy in it and it's suitable for nighttime sleeping do was handy to put her in something she was used to if staying away from home/evening at inlaws. As someone else said- young babies are supposed to be laid down flat whenever possible and car seats have a time limit on them. Worth the investment IMO. Maybe you could buy it if you're conscious of the money for parents/inlaws.

I'm hoping I can get some trips out with new baby in the iCandy if dd is out with someone elsewink

Devilforasideboard Mon 18-Feb-13 09:15:34

Thanks for the tips everyone, the carrycots were cute and if needs be we can buy it ourselves. I'm going to brave the NCT sale in March, DH will be just back from three weeks away with work so may take some persuading. I suppose I can always leave him in the car to sleep and get him in to carry my bargains to the car smile

dinkystinky Mon 18-Feb-13 09:16:58

Morning all. Twinkle - as a new BJ convert I'd say its a good choice of buggy. With ds2 I found he preferred the buggy to sling after 4 months - as he was a total fidget - so a good long term investment either way :-)

Looks like a nice day again out there - think we are off for a walk today.

SundaySunshine Mon 18-Feb-13 10:18:07

Hi all, just a quickie. Was wondering how many mw appointments everyone is having (for second timers). I've had the 16 wk and not having another till 28 wks, is this the same for everyone else? I know you have more first time round.

dinkystinky Mon 18-Feb-13 10:22:55

Yep same here sunshine

SundaySunshine Mon 18-Feb-13 10:24:45

Great thanks Dinky smile

esme80 Mon 18-Feb-13 10:29:33

I am on second and have a 24-week appointment.

Re pushchairs we need a double and have pretty much decided on the mountain buggy duet. Now hoping to find a deal on a second hand one... Have a bugaboo from ds that I am keeping to use for when ds not with us or when he gets big enough to just use buggy board. Now off to enjoy the sunshine a bit,

cheekbyjowl Mon 18-Feb-13 11:03:31

Hi sunday. I'm the same, next one at 28 but scheduled for bp checks with gp too. I think at 25 weeks

Are all people looking for buggies just super organised or do you need to order them long in advance? I'm still to make my first baby purchase as still in normal clothes

Thank you for setting up the new thread dinky

notprincesskate Mon 18-Feb-13 11:10:05

Morning all, just catching up and passing the time whilst I wait for my scan, worked 2 long days over weekend so not had much time to think about it, now feeling a bit nervous, but excited to see bubba again, DH forgot and didn't book the time off so going on my own, also he conveniently booked car in for service today hmm, so train and bus for me, at least an hour each way, but at least it saves on the ridiculous parking situation at the hospital.
We use cloth nappies a mixture of of tots bots with wraps and bumgenius v4, I rarely use the tumble dryer for them, although it does help if you have space to have a clothes horse somewhere, never had a problem with nursery using them either, or any regular poo explosions, I'm going to invest in a few more as bumgenius are leaking but I think that's related to the elastic wearing out in the legs which I'm currently replacing, so they should be good to go for bubba. I have to say I am never without a pack of the right size disposables tho, can be a godsend if you've forgotten the wash or they haven't quite dried and suddenly bubba has 2-3 changes quickly, also use them for holidays etc or staying over at other people's house- some can be quite funny about even sluiced nappies in their washing machine! but usually cloth if we're just out for the day and going home. Also use fleece liners couldn't get on with the paper type ones always found that DD felt damp, but feels as dry in a fleece liner as in a disposable.
esme the MB duet was my was choice for a double too, sadly I can't justify it as DD will be almost 3 and I have the luxury of a car for longer journeys, that said if I found a second hand bargin...........off to check eBay!


dinkystinky Mon 18-Feb-13 11:17:57

Cheek - just being super organised (and trying to spread the cost over time while still earning full pay)

MightBeMad Mon 18-Feb-13 11:33:30

Sunday, I'm on dc2 and have a 25 week appointment with gp, then 28weeks with midwife.

Uck, feeling rough here. Think my walk yesterday was a bit much. Very unsettled night and this morning nearly passed out in the kitchen and then promptly threw up my breakfast shock. Decided to work from home rather than face the 3hr run car/train/tube commute but feeling a bit sorry for myself.

Also, and please excuse the mememe nature of this post, I'm getting increasingly anxious. I'm 18 weeks tomorrow and no movement yet. I know I have an anterior placenta but I felt dc1 from 15 weeks so I'm struggling to keep my worry in check and getting paranoid that there's going to be something wrong at the scan in 2 weeks' time. Please talk some sense into me!

dinkystinky Mon 18-Feb-13 11:37:22

Mightbemad - your symptoms are how my virus started. Seemed to be over in 48 hours. If you get temperature and aches and headache next its definitely what I had.

Re movement - I felt loads early on then nothing for a few weeks, I think bean was giving my placenta a kicking instead:-) now at 21 weeks I feel more but much less so than with the boys. So you are not alone.

sassteee Mon 18-Feb-13 11:46:30

Hello all,

First post on here. Due 18th July, first baby, enjoying maternity clothes although my bump isnt that big yet (but they're so comfy!). Thinking of going on holiday next month to relax and get some sun before the mayhem begins!

Think ive felt little flutters but not quite sure if its my imagination or not!

Sarah x

MightBeMad Mon 18-Feb-13 12:10:49

Thanks dinky. Here's hoping it's just one of this things and not a bug. Yours sounds horrid. Hope you're feeling better now?

Welcome Sarah.

MightBeMad I'm 18+4 with DC2. I thought I felt a couple of little flutters on two occasions around 17 weeks, but nothing that convincing and only when lying quietly in bed a night. The last 2 nights I've felt something much more convincing, but not much and I need to be lying in bed to feel anything at all.

Welcome sass

cheekbyjowl Mon 18-Feb-13 12:53:44

Thanks dinky Good to know. mightbe I'm 19+4 and don't think I've felt anything either, except my own pulse which I can now hear in my stomach, when I asked my midwife at the 16weeks scan when I should expect to feel a movement she said at around the time of my next scan or after. So think it must be normal not to have felt anything before. Then again I'm quite daft when it comes to biological matters. At my first appt I asked the mw if I should worry I hadn't experienced sickness, she said 'no it could be a gender thing' and it took me far too long to work out she was referring to the gender of the baby, I thought I'd missed some medical advances in mens reproductive abilities grin

grin cheeky

MrsRoss26 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:40:50

Thanks for starting the thread! Still on phone, so sorry for not being able to respond to individuals.

Re: nipples, I occasionally get tingly and itchy (different times) but heaping cocoa bhter on at night seems to be helping. DH is enjoying this particular complaint and treatment for some reason!

We had my parents stay for the weekend, first time we'd seen them since new year and mum definitely saw a difference in my shape. I have a podge, but it's a bump we think pushing everything out! It's making me feel bloated permanently, so I know it's not just lunch smile

We chose and pram today! After some excellent customer service in mamas and papas and more test driving in john lewis we went back to m&p and ordered a Bugaboo Cameleon. The uppababy, quinny etc. were too heavy / fiddly for us so we've gone for the full pram, carrycoy system. Think we'll end up with the maxi cosy carseat too as so many people have recommended.

Couple of weeks now til my scan, but excited! Buying the pram (thank goodness for parents wanting to help out) seems like such a big step. Good to see you all dong so well. My back/pelvis issue is getting worse, so will be talking to mw soon.


shelley72 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:54:51

checking in after an awful weekend and we have a shiny new thread smilethank you. i can see there is lots of blue and pink scans coming through and some exciting pram and nappy shopping going on - quite envious of all the shopping plans!

had terrible weekend with lower back pain, saw a midwife this morning as was at hospital anyway and it sounds like it might be mild PGP and is completely normal. just need to rest. must remember to tell my DCs grin.

but better news was that we had the 20wk scan and all was fine - such a relief, a v co-operative baby in perfect position for measurements and everything seemed to be in working order as far as they could tell smile. so i'm just resting now whilst DH does school run and then we can show the DCs their new baby brother or sister. oh and as suspected, placenta is anterior (again) so thats why i've not been having much movement. but at least its not breech - at the moment.

hope everyone is enjoying the sunshine!


photographerlady Mon 18-Feb-13 14:55:14

First 1.5 hour commute almost finished with. I mainly slept on my way in but was happy to not have to use the train toilet 200 times hehee cause I am not looking forward to that. Will see how hectic tonight's journey home will be.

Tomorrow is my new booking appointment with the new MW. So far things have been really friendly and hope the ladies here will be the same. Not hear anything about my reschedule on my scan, maybe they can call tomorrow and check but I much rather not drive two hours to my old hospital to get the 20 week scan.

Might I do not have much movement if at all at 19 weeks. I have been cheating a little as I have a home heart monitor so once a week sneak a peek at the little ones heartbeat. My MW said it could be up to 22 weeks without feeling anything.

Welcome sass

MrsRoss I hear you on the increasing back pain sad

19 weeks today!

shelley72 Mon 18-Feb-13 15:01:22

photographerlady i used to sleep on way in too - at least the train stops at waterloo. just dont do it on the way home or you could end up in exeter!!!

photographerlady Mon 18-Feb-13 15:22:51

good suggestion shelley will set my alarm grin

I have time tomorrow to get lost explore Salisbury before my booking appointment. Its a little funny moving and not knowing your way around at all. Found the mothercare yesterday though hehe its a start.

Thinkingof4 Mon 18-Feb-13 16:36:04

mightbemad I didn't feel this baby till about 16 weeks having felt ds3 at 12 weeks shock so I think there can just be difference in how active different babies are. I'm hoping this one will be a bit more chilled than ds3 who is extremely busy grin
And my dsis who is 22 weeks with anterior placenta is still not feeling baby despite normal 20 week scan. Hope you start to feel kicks soon x

elliejjtiny Mon 18-Feb-13 16:54:47

20 week scan this morning. Very co-operative baby, stayed very still for all the measurements. They did find a problem though, a cleft lip on one side. We have to be scanned again next tuesday by the consultant to confirm it (although it was fairly obvious even to my untrained eye) and we see the specialist team who will do the operation next week as well. The operation will be when Smallest (baby's nickname) is 3-4 months old and we have to go to bristol for that. A big shock but feeling very looked after and the nurse who phoned me this afternoon seemed really positive about me still being able to breastfeed which is good.

dinkystinky Mon 18-Feb-13 17:01:08

Welcome Sass - add yourself to the Waddlers and riders list (follow link on second post down from the top).

MrsRoss - congrats on pram selection. Shelley - sorry to hear it sounds like pgp is settling in. You're going to have to train up your kids to do all your lifting and carrying for you.

Had nice walk and trip to Jodrell bank with kids and friends this afternoon. Could get used to Mondays and Tuesdays off...

dinkystinky Mon 18-Feb-13 17:04:29

Ellie - cross posted with you. It sounds like the hospital are all over it and being really proactive and clear with you on what needs to happen. And if the cleft is only in one side, there is every chance you will be able to bf successfully.

ellie glad to hear you got so much support and information about what to expect from the hospital so quickly. My worry is that they find something at the anomaly scan but there's a big wait for more information/advice. It's great that they're so positive about BF too.

MrsMillions Mon 18-Feb-13 18:19:27

Wow from me to thread #5 already!

Ellie I can only reiterate what others have said, pleased you seem to have got such excellent, timely expertise following your scan. Hope the good care continues.

Pretty quiet weekend here, but we did have a bit of a finances/nursery chat and decide I will return to work (ideally 3 days/wk) so need to start getting our heads around the whole nursery/childcare vouchers/drop off and pick up thing. Have booked to view a nursery after our scan on Friday then have 4 hour drive to visit my parents and some close friends for the weekend.

On countdown to our final pre-baby jet setting next month (not impressed with £/$ rate worsening) then shopping and preparations will begin in earnest.


CottonSock Mon 18-Feb-13 18:23:23

Hi all, thanks for new thread.

Ellie glad you are getting lots of support. It must be a shock, but totally treatable.

I walked 8.5 mils yesterday, quite pleased with myself, but did eat a whole bag of mini eggs to get me round (a large one) (second bag that week.)

One tip on getting a carrycot, but one second hand. I got my oyster one half price on Ebay and they only ever get used for 3 months ish so it looks as good as new. will wash matress.

Also researching cloth nappies. intend to do a mix with disposables. Had my recommendations from the nappy lady today.. http://www.thenappylady.co.uk/
but I will hold off forking out a load of money until I have tried one or two (NCT lend them out for free in my area and might get some used ones).

Grannyapple Mon 18-Feb-13 21:16:26

Hello, ladies...wow these threads move super fast! Can't even remember if I managed to post on the last one!

Been ill since the beginning of the month...had a horrible bug/virus thing with shivers, fevers etc...now left with a horrid phelgmy cough (sorry for tmi) & struggling to breath sometimes...have doc appt on Wednesday to see if there is anything I can have to break the mucus down more & allow me to breath better )apart from Vicks rub, hot drinks etc to break it down). Did spin on Friday morning & was sick when I got home...

Can't remember who asked about mw appts but yes I was supposed to go from 16wk appt to 28wk appt...but my mw said she thought that too long so suggested I make a 25wk appt too, so will do that as soon as the diary opens up..

Off back home to Glasgow on Friday for a few days as its DS's 2nd birthday (can't believe he's 2 already!) & figured it'll be last chance for us to go up before no 2 arrives..

Found out SIL is also pg so babies will be 6 wks apart...just a shame we live so far away...

Congrats to those making the big purchases smile

Felt baby move last Wednesday but not much since (tho baby prob had whiplash from all this coughing!!).. Think it was about 20 wks last time before I felt proper movements last time.

Have anomaly scan on 8thmarch...haven't updated stats yet but will do...will be 21 wks then..

18 + 3

Grannyapple my SIL is due to have her DC1 at the end of April, so almost 3 months difference. Unfortunately she's moved to Australia!!! I hope your SIL is a little bit closer!

Grannyapple Mon 18-Feb-13 21:26:59

Well yeah...Glasgow v London...so much closer smile

Think I need to call nhs direct tonight...had some pink mucus from coughing (again sorry for tmi)!

Hmmmm. Glasgow to London is hardly convenient. But at least you're in the same time zone for messaging. Although maybe the Oz thing will work in my favour during night feeds!!!

Good luck with NHS direct. Pink sputum isn't good.

paolocee Mon 18-Feb-13 22:16:54

Best wishes to Ellie and Grannyapple.
We have our 18 week scan here in Sweden on Wednesday.
Fingers crossed on the anomaly front. I think we're going to find out the sexes. The Two Ronnies could become The Two Ronettes....

VinegarDrinker Mon 18-Feb-13 22:32:11

Evening all. Just checking in quickly, seriously knackered after 39 hours at work and 20 miles on the bike in the last 3 days.

Repeat anomaly scan tomorrow - hope little bugger is less stubborn this time!

Hope you are all well

emblosion Mon 18-Feb-13 23:50:49

Hi all, just checking in on new thread, you guys have been busy! Had family staying last week so not been online, but have just had a minor thread catch up session!

20 week scan was fine, pictures rubbish tho and its our trust policy not to tell you the sex so we're going to get a private gender scan in a couple of weeks (i've got to know, ha ha!). due date changed back to 8th July, so I'll update the list when I'm on laptop.

Can anyone else not stop eating? I am majorly craving carbs. I feel so blobby at the minute, 'bump' is quite pronounced but still mostly fat I think!

mightbemad I had anterior placenta with ds & didn't really feel movement til 24 weeks ish. All through pregnancy movement felt v muffled too - and he was a wriggler! This time I have only felt occasional movements but it is MUCH stronger than last time.

ellie that must have been a shock at the scan, but sounds like the drs are on the ball & all can be sorted quite quickly. Glad you are getting lots of support. thanks

photographer glad the move went ok & hope the commuting continues to be not too bad too smile

Welcome newbies and a big wave for everyone else!

emblosion Mon 18-Feb-13 23:53:28

Oh and 20+5 today!

emblosion Mon 18-Feb-13 23:57:52

PPS (!) Can't remember who was asking about pushchairs, but my friend has a bugaboo chameleon and its gorgeous!

We've pretty much decided on the Out n About 360 double, I need to measure my car boot tho and check it will fit, (I have an ancient Clio)...

notprincesskate Tue 19-Feb-13 08:40:07

ellie pleased to hear the NHS are sorting you quickly and providing the advice and support you need.
20 week scan for me too yesterday, all looks good (despite her commenting on the sheet, views were reduced due to high BMI blush) hmmm I'm lighter by quite a bit than I was last time AND my BMI was just acceptable on booking, still must try to cut down on all things sweet. I have got a low lying placenta so they booked me for another scan at 32 weeks to check, the decision re vbac or elcs may still be taken out of my hands, which actually I wouldn't mind at all.

Hai1988 Tue 19-Feb-13 09:49:05

Hi all hope were all okay smile

19+4 now got my 20 wk scan exactly a week today smile

Feeling jellybean moving alot more now last night was the most active so far.

MightBeMad Tue 19-Feb-13 10:14:28

Morning all. Thank you for reassuring thoughts on movement and anterior placentas. DH suggested last night that we get another private scan to reassure me but I think I'm just going to try and hold out for my NHS scan given it's unlikely to make any difference to the outcome and is just more money. 'Only' 13 days to go! Fingers crossed I'm just being neurotic!

Dinky, I seem to have escapoed your bug thank goodness, so I guess it must have just been the walk/late lunch. I'll try and be more careful now to keep to regular mealtimes as clearly this baby dooes not like being messed with on that score! I do feel like I'm constantly eating though and I'm going to be a whale by the end. I'm more bothered this time around as I know how hard I had to work to shift the baby weight last time...

Ellie, sorry to hear you had such a shock at the scan but it sounds as if your hospital team are really on the ball, which is great news. The repairs they do are absolutely phenomenal now so a few months on from the op I imagine there will be very little evidence that there was ever anything done! Did you find out if the bean is pink or blue??

Congrats to all others on good scans.

Good luck for the rescan vinegar and anyone else being scanned today x

BadMissM Tue 19-Feb-13 10:42:29

Yep, I've been worrying a bit about not much movement (DD was a wiggly baby), but midwife did say I have an anterior placenta as well.

Ellie sounds like they have everything well in hand xxx

I have anomaly scan on 06 March now, they brought it forward two days to see me in clinic at the same time.... seems forever when you are waiting! Would really like to know the sex, but don't know if our trust let you!

BadMissM Tue 19-Feb-13 10:43:19

Oh yes... forgot... 18+1 today!

Persuasion Tue 19-Feb-13 11:20:36

ellie that must have been a shock, I guess we never expect it to happen to us, but it sounds like you're being well looked after which is the most important thing.

vinegar good luck for your rescan tomorrow, and I hope you get some rest in before then.

Congratulations to those with good scans. I had mine this morning, all looks good, and baby was quite wiggly! We're having a girl, and I've already been on mamas and papas looking at the cute baby dresses (although my good ness the prices, I think we'll have to hope for presents!). They couldn't get the doppler fully, so I have to go back to have that redone in 2 weeks, but hopefully all is fine.

Cutandstick Tue 19-Feb-13 12:31:31

Just read Hillary Mantel's criticism of duchess Kate on the news - that's all you need when you're pregnant and hormonal,someone bad mouthing you - never mind in the press!

Hai1988 Tue 19-Feb-13 13:41:51

ooo hearing you all talk about your scans is getting me excited although am a tad nervous incase something wrong is picked up.

Congratz on finding out about your lil girl persuasion

Thinkingof4 Tue 19-Feb-13 14:11:24

Ellie hope you are feeling ok re scan, I'm sure it was a real shock to hear. I know a wee girl born with cleft lip and palate recently and she's doing really well x

cut I know, what's that all about! I don't understand why people think it's ok to pick on her, especially when she's pregnant!

Good to hear about all the good scans, and good luck to anyone who has theirs this week
Another warm sunny day here (well not that warm but at least it's not icy!), will hopefully take boys to park after school/ nursery pick ups to let them blow off some steam

Gingerpanther27 Tue 19-Feb-13 14:42:07

Is it normal for midwives to ask you to come in for checks ASAP? confused really worried now....

MightBeMad Tue 19-Feb-13 14:59:25

Ginger I had one of those and it as just because some protein had showed up in my urine tests and they wanted to do a repeat test and check my blood pressure. All was absolutely fine, nothing to worry about at all. Yours could easily be something equally innocuous. Try not to worry. when are you seeing her?

VinegarDrinker Tue 19-Feb-13 16:20:04

Just had scan - all well and it's a girl smile

Devilforasideboard Tue 19-Feb-13 16:26:46

Aaaw congratulations Vinegar! And everybody else with the scans, we are coming along smile

Gingerpanther27 Tue 19-Feb-13 16:28:26

All was fine they just wanted to see me as they'd forgotten to reschedule my appointment that and I have white blood cells in my pee....so very relieved emoticon, congrats on the pink bump vinegar

dinkystinky Tue 19-Feb-13 16:37:28

Hello all - congrats on recent scans (and girls on the way!) And glad all is OK Ginger.

flyingsprocket Tue 19-Feb-13 16:40:51

Congrats on the girls persuasion & vineager my scan seems so far away!!

Ellie glad to hear you're being well looked after

17 weeks today

dinkystinky Tue 19-Feb-13 16:45:12

Notprincesskate my friend had a note on her notes that sonographer couldn't see anything due to maternal adiposity - she asked her doctor dh what it meant and he told her it was a fat tummy! Charming...

MightBeMad Tue 19-Feb-13 17:01:34

Yey on the good scans!!

Princess and dinky grin I'm sure they don't mean any offence. Much like my grandmother's: "gosh, you've filled out in your face' comment to me at 37 weeks last time around. Just what a pg hormonal woman wanted to hear! hmmgrin

Calmisthemantra Tue 19-Feb-13 17:55:05

hai we're scan date buddiesgrin

Hai1988 Tue 19-Feb-13 18:02:37

Yey calm what time is urs? Mines at 2.00pm wud rather a morning one as i know the days gonna drag being in the afternoon.

When you due?

specialknickers Tue 19-Feb-13 18:07:06

Marking my place... Just come back from the scan and all is well, thankfully. Held my breath through most of it I think and didn't look much but the sonographer was delighted (she was having a bad day and i was her last scanee) and so am I. We didn't want to know the sex but I'm thinking boy now, for some reason.

Something strange though: we got a really good look at the babies face and he looked sooooo different to ds it was amazing. He / she is going to be a brand new person, that blows my mind!

Persuasion Tue 19-Feb-13 18:15:16

vinegar congratulations! I'm not sure hwy I thought it was tomorrow when you clearly said today confused

ginger I'm glad all is ok, it's a bit off of them to worry you like that though.

I also saw the DoC stuff on the news, think there must be a degree of envy in there driving it? It's Kate's job to look/be perfect for goodness sake, and there's really no way of knowing what she's like as a person. I think the way the media is really makes some people feel like they 'own' celebrities, and forget they are people underneath like the rest of us.

Ok, rant over...

Congratulations everyone on your good scans.

emblosion I'm craving carbs constantly too! I get serious munchies in the evening and hardly stop eating from when I get home until I go to bed.

AmaDablam Tue 19-Feb-13 20:21:07

Evening everyone. Congratulations on all the good scan news smile

Sorry to hear you had unexpected news at your scan ellie. That must have been hard, but as others have said it sounds like your hospital are very much on the ball, and thankfully it is something that is very treatable these days.

I think there's been a lot of to-ing and fro-ing on the whole Princess Kate thing, on whether it was actually an attack on her, or a criticism of the way the media is portraying her, which was then taken out of context. Either way I'm sure it's not very nice. On a purely selfish observation, though, I was reassured to see that her bump is about the same size and shape as mine (the same can't quite be said when comparing any other part of my body to hers, I hasten to add!) so that made me feel a little more normal - I wonder if she is getting "bump envy" too!

Is anyone else getting really sore hips/top of thighs from lying on their side at night, when they would normally sleep on their back or front? I thought I'd sorted it out by lying on top of a pillow, but after a week or so, it's come back with a vengeance. My funky new Carla Nougat pillow and wedge arrived from Amazon today, so I'll see if I can get any more comfortable with that...


dinkystinky Tue 19-Feb-13 20:44:47

Hurray for more scans and cooperative babies.

Ama - I got sore hips sleeping on a futon at my friends place. I find wrapping myself in a duvet seems to help alleviate it.

MrsMillions Tue 19-Feb-13 20:56:44

Not heard this latest on Kate so will have to check it out next.

On phone and can't remember who mentioned this...I thought I'd resolved the hip pain thing but it's back. Going to have to try more pillow experiments.

Or maybe take to sleeping on a Holo lilo which I got to use at my first pregnancy yoga class this evening. It lets you lie on your tummy, was soooo comfy. See http://www.holo-lilo.com/. Rest of the class was good too, just simple stretches and breathing (I'm not bendy and beyond walking to/from station every day and a few swims, haven't exercised since BFP). Around half the class looked like they're due very soon so guess I'll see quite a turnover over the next 20 weeks but was very welcome "me" time.

To top it off DH served dinner within 5 minutes of me getting home, and it's Grazia Tuesday.


photographerlady Tue 19-Feb-13 20:58:16

Evening all. Second booking appointment today and thank goodness they didn't another round of bloods. I am now carrying around two huge books of maternity notes as they now need my old hospital and new hospital notes. The midwife was lovely and it was pleasing to find out she would be the same lady my entire pregnancy. She told us a lot about the hospitals labour ward and the likelihood of getting a room with a birthing pool. Was nice to be told that we can enjoy a bath in one room and also moved to a pool room if they were fully booked on arrival. Sounds silly but was unsure if they allow that. Also she expressed the midwives desire to have you mobile as much as you like (I have a phobia of hospital beds or well ppl leaning over me in one).

Scan is rescheduled for March 4th which is a week later than my previous one but its nice that they squeezed me in and that I don't have to travel 2 hours back to my old place for a scan.

notprincess I have a high bmi and hoping my notes don't say "too fat to see baby"

vine congrats!

And all those with scans smile

19 +1

iclaudius Tue 19-Feb-13 21:40:14

i know for a fact that doc has a holo lilo...don't ask me how i know but i do!!!!

iclaudius Tue 19-Feb-13 21:41:09

by that i meant DoC!!

marmitemad Tue 19-Feb-13 21:47:15

Evening everyone, busy day for scans today smile

Ours took 1.5 hours due to trainee sonographer and unco-operative baby.
Dd was slightly bored by the end but it was nice to have the extra viewing time and all is looking good so trying to relax a bit now.

Calmisthemantra Tue 19-Feb-13 22:03:46

hai 0940. So excited. Feels like a looooong time since 12wscan!

SlouchingPanda Tue 19-Feb-13 23:03:41

Been on a shopping adventure today and made 2 exciting discoveries. (1) My local H&M has maternity wear! Bloody loads of it. Not sure why I didn't check before traipsing to Oxford Street the other week! (2) For anyone near Reading (I think there are a few) Pudding in Kings Walk have some Hotmilk bras in store, and the ladies in there are lovely.

Ellie hope you are still feeling positive after the news at your scan. These things can take a little while to sink in, but it sounds like they are looking after you well.

I was wondering if any of you seasoned mums can help with a stupid carseat question. My car has isofix points - do I need to buy the car seat and a base to attach to the isofix points, or does the seat attach straight to them? And if the former, does the base stay even though you change carseats as the child grows? Or do you have to change the base as well every time? Thanks in advance - these questions are so basic I don't want to look like a doofus by asking the shop assistant for fear of getting laughed at!

I have made progress though... we went into John Lewis and pushed a few pushchairs. Then ran away quickly... one step at a time!

19+5 grin

mysterymeg Wed 20-Feb-13 07:13:27

panda I am not seasoned but I have done car seat shopping. The isofix points allow you to fix an isofix base so yes you need to buy the base if you want to use the points. Most seats can be used with just seatbelt if you don't want to buy a base.

The base means you can get the seat in and out easier rather than threading the seatbelt each time.

Most bases are only usable with the one seat. However there are some that will also do the next one up. I've bought the maxi cosi family fix base. This fits the cabriofix carseat I've bought as well as doing the next carseat up (the pearl). This means the same base will do me until the baby is 3.

I'm sure other brands do similar. Just be careful what you buy. Don't be afraid to ask the assistants for help. I'd deffo recommend asking for help in john Lewis. They'll talk you through all ofvtheir models and bases.

19 + 5

SlouchingPanda Wed 20-Feb-13 07:40:38

Thanks so much, Meg - that's enormously helpful.

Cheeseandbread Wed 20-Feb-13 07:52:04

Lots of chatting since I last checked in!

Congratulations on all the scans- very exciting!

Ellie it sounds like the hospital have everything under control. I knew someone at school who had a sister born with a cleft lip. She had the op and was fine. A lovely healthy little girl.

Flying I think you asked about my New Forest stay (on my phone so hard to check) we stayed at the Master Builders at Buckler's Hard. It wasn't a spa hotel but I couldn't recommend them more. We stayed on a winter warmer deal on the Sunday (£99 for bed, breakfast and £30 each towards supper in their lovely restaurant) we paid normal price on Monday and ate in the pub section which was still lovely. Lovely rooms and roaring fires throughout the hotel- great food too. We had some lovely walks and explored the local area.

Panda DH and I did the John Lewis bit yesterday too. A couple of weeks ago we did the run in and out quickly but this time we asked for some help. I was really impressed as they gave us lots of information but there was no hard sell- lady even told us which sites to go to to price compare then go back to John Lewis to price match! Also said you could book a slot with your car to test boot space so think we will be doing that in a few weeks- maybe Easter as we want to have had our next scan before we buy the pushchair.

Hope everyone has lovely Wednesdays all round. I'm taking mum out for a girlie day for her birthday ignoring all the school work that needs doing

Cheeseandbread Wed 20-Feb-13 07:55:49

Also discussing names that my mum wants to be called as she doesn't like granny. She suggested 'Angel' I laughed out loud! My children will not be calling her Angel... Any granny names that don't sound like granny gratefully received...

flyingsprocket Wed 20-Feb-13 08:40:54

Thanks cheese I'll have a look at that hotel. Definitely not going with OH on his trip to the sun tomorrow so I need to organise something to look forward to.

We called my Mum's mum "Nana", so I think that's what mum would like. And OH's mum is already "Nan" to 2 grandchildren.

Out nearest John Lewis is just a John Lewis at home, don't think they stock buggies & car seats. I think the next closest is in Kingston, has anybody been there for baby shopping?

MightBeMad Wed 20-Feb-13 08:56:29

Panda, from experience, I'd also say if you're thinking of buying a base to do more than one seat, make sure you do your group 1 seat research first (we didn't!). I think I'm right that most of the bases that will fit the baby (group 0) and toddler (group 1) seats, will only take a forward facing group 1 seat. Once I'd looked into it all a bit more (when dc1 was nearly a year old) I decided to go for a rear facing group 1 seat, which means the base we bought for the group 0 seat is no longer used. Had I considered it all at the start, I could have got a rear facing seat that would have done birth-3/4 years but I only really looked at the baby seats at the time. I might have ended up doing the same thing anyway as the birth-4yr seats can't be taken in and out of the car like most of the baby group 0 seats can, but if you know you are going to buy two separate rear facing seats then you don't need to worry about your base fitting the second seat, iyswim!

dinkystinky Wed 20-Feb-13 09:15:56

Panda - we didnt have isofix in our car when we had ds1 so just used the maxi cosi cabrio with seat belts - abit of a pain in a 3 door mini so we wished we'd had isofix base! We reused the seat with DS2 and just got an easy fix base in our next car (which had isofix) - toddler upwards car seats tend to be isofix themselves anyway.

Cheese - sounds lke you had a lovely time in the new forest. We got there often for weekends away as easy to get to from London and DS1 sees a specialist out there for his concentration (or lack thereof) every few months. Not been to Bucklers Hard, normally stay around Brockenhurst, so may suggest that to DH for next time. Also re grandparents - when I got pregnant with DS1, MIL was not ready to be called Nan so we call her the hindu name for grand ma - "Ta-ma" - which she loved. My mum and dad are also called the hindu names for Grandma on mum's side (Didimoni) and grandad (Dadu) so it was in keeping with that. Now her DD has had a daughter, she's fine being called Nan by her GD- mind you she had 5 years to get used to being phased into it with Ta-ma first. How does she feel about Grandma or nanna?

shelley72 Wed 20-Feb-13 09:26:24

re carseats, can recommend john lewis, as they will come to your car and fit for you, to make sure everything is compatible. i think (IIRC) that maxi cosi also have a list of compatible cars on their website. we bought the cabrio fix car seat with the isofix base for DS and it has lasted really well. just need to work out now how we are going to fit three seats across the back! we do have three isofix points, but DS is now in the high back booster seat thats just secured by seatbelts.

saw DoC on the news this morning and i have serious bump envy. where is my bump <stamps foot>. DH said not to worry as i dont usually grow huge babies but i am 21 weeks today and i would like to look a little bit pregnant now as opposed to just a bit podgy round the middle. felt a complete fraud at my scan the other day. still i have felt a few movements today so at least someones happy!

not doing very well on the 'resting' front (as i'm supposed to be) so investigating osteopaths is on my list of jobs for today, once i have caught up with washing and been to music. hope everyone else's day is a tad more exciting than that!

BB01 Wed 20-Feb-13 09:36:33

Congrats on all the scans!

Ellie, hope you're ok and so glad it sounds like the hospital are being helpful. Must still be a bit of a shock but sounds as though it's usually easily treated.

Found out my placenta's anterior too and definitely finding the kicking's quite on and off and often not very noticeable.

Still can't stop eating!

I still have bump envy of pretty much every PG person I see/know!

Can't stop obsessing over pushchairs now. iCandy ones still near top of my list but can't stop worrying about spending that much and then finding it's too big and heavy. Anybody considering a Cosatto Giggle? Love the design and some good reviews though not seen in real life yet.

Hai1988 Wed 20-Feb-13 09:38:35

Oo lots of advice re carseats at jhon lewis will have to have a look at some point, despatatly need help buying a pram as me ans dh cannot decide on one sad

Still counting down the days till scan smile


MiniPenguinMaker Wed 20-Feb-13 09:52:19

Thanks to everyone who commented about my redundancy (last thread - gosh it moves fast!) and hello again. I have been made redundant but am appealing the decision. I think I would have a reasonable case at an employment tribunal, although unfortunately they probably wouldn't award any money even if I won because my employer pays above statutory redundancy pay. Still, I think I am going to go ahead with it - depending on how the appeal goes - to make sure they think twice about doing this to anyone else. It really is a horrible time to make somebody redundant; they ought at least to make sure they do it properly and fairly.

I'm at exactly 19 weeks now and I think I have been feeling some wiggling lately, which is exciting. Scan on the 9th of March, when I'll be 21 + 3...

19 + 0

dinkystinky Wed 20-Feb-13 10:34:14

BB01, Shelley - you can have some of my bump if you like. I'm looking like I have a space hopper down my top already. As I said before, bumps come in all shapes and sizes - you will get yours soon.

Mini - good luck with your claim and hope you're managing to keep yourself busy.

elliejjtiny Wed 20-Feb-13 11:01:45

Thanks ladies. I'm mostly worried about breastfeeding as I breastfed all the others and really want to this time. The specialist nurse and the midwife said that I'll be given loads of support to breastfeed if that's what I want to do but that some babies can't manage it. I've got another scan with the consultant next week and a 4d scan booked for 12th April. The 4d one is free, organised by a charity which I thought was a really lovely idea. We'll know more about how severe it is then because we'll be able to see more clearly than in 2d. We get some photos too. With all these scans we'll have a whole photo album used up before he's born! We didn't find out the sex but I've been saying he because "it" feels wrong. I'm going to get a huge shock if "he" turns out to be a girl grin.


SlouchingPanda Wed 20-Feb-13 11:46:13

You lot are all marvellous, thank you for all the car seat chat.

Ellie I am sure you will get as much help as possible to support your wish the breastfeed, and the fact that you are already a pro after 3x DC will be an enormous help. Of course it will depend on your baby too, but your really strong desire to do it is a big part of the battle.

MiniPenguin I missed your original post re redundancy, but good luck to you. How awful to have to deal with this at an already stressful time.


MiniPenguinMaker Wed 20-Feb-13 11:48:33

dinky - thank you for the good wishes!

ellie - that must have been a shock, but fingers crossed that you will still be able to breastfeed. I am like you in being convinced that I am having a boy, so will be surprised at my anomaly scan if I'm actually wrong!

Ladies, I'm thinking that after my anomaly scan on the 9th of March I might start feeling ready to buy some stuff. But I'm new to this whole baby-having lark, and I've got some questions...

- any good recommendations for cheap but nice baby clothing? A friend has pointed me in the direction of M&S and it looks great, but any similar ideas would be appreciated. I like bright colours (hate the whole pale pink and pale blue thing) and clean plain Scandinavian-type design...

- how many bits of clothing (baby-grow, sleep suit etc) do I REALLY need to buy for the first month or two? I can imagine going wildly overboard on the shopping for this, so a reality check would be appreciated.

- what are the other clothing essentials that you couldn't have done without?

Gingerpanther27 Wed 20-Feb-13 11:50:41

Morning all, got my consultant appointment hopefully it won't be another non-existent one...hmm as its two buses there and a lot of munchies for me and he who rules me. I also have bump envy depending where he is sometimes I have this lovely bump then other times it looks like too many pies and not bump (or am i been cynical?) yet midwives are very jealous of my stomach muscles and reckon I'll give birth no problem shock

Gingerpanther27 Wed 20-Feb-13 11:52:15

Oh forgot - 20+3 today smile

dinkystinky Wed 20-Feb-13 12:07:59

Minipenguin - look at Ebay for bundles of baby clothes (especially for the first 3 months). Its great value. I like M&S babygrows as they are lovely and soft. Supermarkets often do colourful ones. Whatever sex this child is, it will be going into its big brothers' clothing.

Given our babies will be summer babies rather than winter ones (like Ds2) or spring (like Ds1) I'm going on the basis that I need more vests (wide necked ones) than sleep suits - so 10 vests vs 5 sleep suits if you have easy access to a washing machine - if not, double it. Couple of light weight cardies. Light weight hat. You'll do alot of washing in the first few days/weeks so you basically want enough so you dont run out. If you need more, you can buy them when the baby is here. Nappies. Nappy bags for disposal. Cotton wool pads (not balls - too small to do anything) or wipes for the early cleaning days. Change mat. Muslins. Not much else needed really though - you'll need a car seat to get home. And you already have a buggy - you may want a sling. Check out local sling meets.

For you, you will need maternity pads if having a vaginal birth (more than you could imagine you will need - start with 4 packs then buy more if need be), nipple balm and breastpads if bfing. Enormous cheap pants for post birth (primark or supermarket cheapies will do the trick -bin when done with). I also found breastshells great for keeping tender nipples away from material in early days. If bottlefeeding/expressing, you'll need steriliser and bottles. I like to swaddle in the early days so use huge muslins for that.

shelley72 Wed 20-Feb-13 12:20:20

and can i just add - you will still need maternity pads if you have a CS - i was surprised at how long bleeding lasted after DD (longer than with DS who was VB). and yes to soft breastpads and lots of muslins!!!

also try NCT sales for newborn sizes - i literally had two suitcases full of stuff for DS (sept baby) - but it was a warm sept and he was a tiny baby. so lots of his stuff was in the wrong size for wrong time of year - it all ended up at our local NCT sale (DD was spring baby). this baby will have a lovely choice of white/bright/pink/blue sleepsuits - as long as it doesnt end up a big baby we should be fine! i washed them through last weekend and couldnt believe how tiny my DCs once were (and that was NB size which they didnt get into for a while). made me quite teary at how fast they have grown up sad.

BadMissM Wed 20-Feb-13 12:20:41

MiniPenguinMaker Found some very cute bright ones in TK Maxx the other week... Have Pm'd you about Employment Tribunal....

With DD had just as many basics as possible, vests, babygros, cardies... especially if you're going to be taking the LO to visit family/friends soon after birth, and won't be within easy reach of a washer at home...

Moses basket/carrycot/travel cot if you are planning to visit anyone... also useful at home in first few weeks!

Abzs Wed 20-Feb-13 12:24:19

Hello! Back from four days of fabulous weather in which the Cairngorms did their very best to look like the Alps! DH had the most amazing day ski mountaineering with some of the adult leaders, from the Cairngorm ski centre over the plateau down to the loch and up to Ben Macdui and back. I'm kind of sad to have missed out on that, but I definitely don't feel safe to ski.

I managed to get out for three of the four days - needed a rest on day 3 so was the Kitchen Apprentice. You need an awful lot of biscuits for 40 portions of cheesecake!

Small has bagged several Corbetts now. Not sure if they count if done pre-natally though grin I was glad to still feel quite confident and competent on the hill, despite the bump.

I think Small either loves or hates driving, as I've been getting a right kicking when in the car this week.


photographerlady Wed 20-Feb-13 12:52:48

Dinky & BadMiss Thanks for all the tips on clothes and things you need the early post birth days. You experienced ladies will see my posts later on bugging you all about the must haves and also the hospital bag.

abz glad you had a lovely time smile

Persuasion Wed 20-Feb-13 13:39:40

dinky shelley and badmiss that's really helpful! So far we have about 7 vests and babygrows in 0-3m, after a grandparent-to-be funded shopping spree, and a sleepsack, but nothing else. I'm thinking a few in newborn is a good idea, then see how big the baby is and buy more of what we need.

BB01 we're pretty much decided on the cosatto giggle. It seems to get almost universally good reviews, and seems very reasonable cost for what you get. We were also quite tempted by the Urbo from mamas and papas, but it seems to have a lot of reviews with problems with the front wheels, and is a fair bit more expensive than the cosatto. We haven't bought yet, I'm keeping my eye out for somewhere with a sale.

dinkystinky Wed 20-Feb-13 13:48:12

Persuasion -my DC were really long and chunky monkeys so went straight into their 0-3 month clothes. I think I had 2 newborn sleepsuits which never got used. So while a good idea to have a couple of newborn dont go overboard.

Abzs - glad you had a fab break. Bagging corbetts in utero definitely counts grin

dinkystinky Wed 20-Feb-13 13:48:46

P.s. Shelley - thanks for clarifying that you need maternity pads post c-sec.

Persuasion Wed 20-Feb-13 14:17:46

Oh, and abz I have no idea what most of your post means, thus no comment (what IS a corbett?). Glad you enjoyed the break though. I don't have any holiday coming up but wish I did, I really could do with a break to look forward to!

elliejjtiny Wed 20-Feb-13 14:33:44

Mini I've had a few bright coloured sleepsuits from next. With DS3 everything in the shops seemed to be pastel colours so I ended up getting a load of plain white sleepsuits, vests and muslins from asda and some packets of dylon. Looked lovely and DS3 got a lot of compliments.

Anyone else been feeling really rude assertive? I think I've offended quite a few people with my attitude just lately. Mostly people moaning that I am unwilling to be public property this time. Apparantly I'm being very unreasonable for not telling everyone I was pregnant as soon as I'd peed on the stick and for not sending out a group text to tell everyone I know the results of every blood and wee test.

I'm a soon to be mum of 4 and managing all their appointments and activities is a full time job. Also I have to spend a lot of time doing housework to keep it in a state that the nappy bin isn't overflowing and toothpaste/loo roll hasn't been squirted/unravelled all over the bathroom. I don't have time to ring people after every single appointment and even if I did I don't always want to tell everyone my buisness.

And breathe! Is it obvious I've been up since 5am with a 6 year old who was very excited about his school trip today grin.

iclaudius Wed 20-Feb-13 14:58:00

I just buy job lots of 0-3 month vests ( bodysuits) and white towelling babygros - my dc6 was summer born and their legs ad feet are so skinny they look almost blue when not covered ...
I am looking at the donkey from a distance as have cameleons and lived them but need a double ... DP not laughing!!

iclaudius Wed 20-Feb-13 15:00:09

Elliejj I am with you on the 'why didn't I know ' front - sooooo frustrating - even when they do know I have to face the comments and japes and jests some of which are wearing thin and I only announced a fortnight ago

Abzs Wed 20-Feb-13 15:53:01

Persuasion - a Corbett is a kind of Scottish mountain summit. There are lists of them and people tick them off and try to visit them all - 'bagging'. Quite a good explanation [http://www.jimwillsher.co.uk/Site/Hills/Hills_Intro.php here].

DH just phoned - we are off to Mothercare tonight to see if they have an alternative to the Uppababy Vista. Ideally something that only costs an arm rather than the full arm and leg...

elliejjtiny Wed 20-Feb-13 17:13:56

iclaudius glad I'm not the only one. I was determined to wait as long as possible before announcing anything as I hate the stupid comments from people who think they are hilarious and also I had a miscarriage last time and I was nervous. Don't get me started on people who've watched one born every minute and think they know everything. I know people who try and speak medical jargon and do it wrong and also people who want to hear my birth story and tell me all the bits I didn't do right. My personal favourite was someone telling me I should have asked for an epidural as soon as I got to hospital so I could rest before being induced. Never mind that I wasn't in any pain at that point. This time I won't be telling anyone when I go to hospital apart from PIL as they'll need to look after the other DC's. I'll just tell people when I get home and have slept.

Devilforasideboard Wed 20-Feb-13 17:48:18

Mini H&M and Next have nice bright stuff. I think Tesco have some as well. If you haven't already, join the baby clubs at Sainsburys, Boots etc so you get lots of free stuff and samples. The one thing everyone with babies already keeps telling me is to buy loads of muslins!

In other news I had a really good consultant appt today - no antibodies present in the last blood test so got the all clear and they see no reason not to expect a 'normal vaginal delivery' smile

OhGood Wed 20-Feb-13 18:42:58

persuasion my DD was in her 'tiny baby' stuff followed by 'newborn' for ages...

whitedaffodil Wed 20-Feb-13 18:43:03

Hi all, second devil's advice to join up to the clubs, there seem to be a lot of discount vouchers etc. now to keep track of them! slouchingpanda your pushchair story made me laugh - that is exactly what we did. Baby steps ... .

The other thing I've been told about baby clothes is don't go overboard on the newborn baby stuff as lovely friends, colleagues and relatives who want to get the baby a present when it's born will invariably buy small / newborn clothes so you might well end up with more than you think.

Thanks for the advice re: maternity pads dinky, shelley and others - a necessary but less exciting purchase than lovely baby outfits I have to say.

Scan next Friday and then seeing consultant straight afterwards (hope the scan appt is on time, thought it was a bit too good to be true that it all lined up). We know what we're having already as it was unavoidably obvious on some early scans but looking forward to and slightly nervous about seeing the little chap again.


VinegarDrinker Wed 20-Feb-13 19:09:28

Have to say we hardly used our muslins....!

My advice is don't buy too much of any one thing. You can always top up on clothes/muslins/nappies/maternity pads (if necessary, online or sending DH) once baby is born.

AmaDablam Wed 20-Feb-13 19:25:16

Glad you had a nice time Abzs and managed to get some proper walking in. We're off to SIL's in the Brecon Beacons this weekend and hoping the weather will be similarly kind to us.

Thanks for all the great advice on baby essentials, all the experienced mummies. Like several others I'm steadfastly refusing to buy anything until after my 20 week scan but I still have 1001 thoughts and questions, several of which have already been answered. Having season-appropriate advice is good too as most of the "check lists" you see in books and mags seem to focus on winter babies. I'm one of those people who is always cold and it has to be seriously scorching for me to bare my arms and legs, so one of my biggest worries is that I'll overdress LO and he or she will overheat. I'm also wondering, what do newborns sleep in/under when it's hot at night? Would one of those "gro-bags" be OK or would that be too much?

Another random wondering is about carrycots. As we've been offered a lovely wooden crib which will go beside our bed, I'm not planning to get a moses basket, but instead use the carrycot part of the travel system we've got our eye on for daytime sleeps downstairs. I assume the carrycot will come with a mattress but as it's going to get quite a bit of use, I'm thinking I'll also need several sets of sheets. Are there special ones that come depending on each make of carrycot? Someone suggested a little while back using a normal pillowcase as a sheet for a moses basket but would the same apply for the carrycot? It's hard to imagine a mattress being that small!

Oops seem to have written an essay as usual. Was going to go off on a spiel about grandparent names but I'll save that for another time!


marmitemad Wed 20-Feb-13 19:29:58

panda I guess you must be fairly local to me if you've been shopping in reading? Are you planning to go to RBH? I had dd there in 2007 and am booked there again.

cheese my MIL was not ready for the traditional granny names when her first gc arrived 14 years ago so chose "amma" which suits her so well everyone calls her that now!

Dd was very sicky so we used a fresh muslin with every feed for ages, again we needed loads of sleep suits/vests and the washable sofa throws were invaluable. No idea what I've got left in the loft after its been borrowed by both sils, going to sort out clothes & new mattresses after our Easter break.

dinkystinky Wed 20-Feb-13 20:17:37

Odd vinegar - we used our muslins all the time. But DS1 and DS2 used to posset a lot.

Glad you had a good appt today Devil.

Ama - I tend to swaddle in early days and layer blankets on if cold. Ds1 slept in sleep suit, ds2 slept in vest and sleep suit. In height of summer you can use 0.5 tog sleep bags (basically just a sewn up sheet) and pop baby in there in a nappy if you don't swaddle. Or just in their vest and nappy if hot.

Not sure about carrycot answer as I just used some of my big swaddle muslins as sheets for ours.

OhGood I was just sorting through DD's tiny baby clothes the other day. It's hard to believe they were so small! The tiny baby stuff was hanging off her and we didn't need any newborn stuff until after she was 3 months old.

Mothercare sometimes have some really nice bright clothing. It's often with the boys stuff, but I've always thought it was unisex.

My mum wasn't ready to be a granny or a grandma, but is happy being nana. My dad is baba (that's just what DD started calling him herself).

AmaDablam Wed 20-Feb-13 20:32:05

Thanks dinky just the sort of answers I was after. I do like the idea of swaddling actually so will maybe give it a go and see how LO likes it. If it's OK to use large muslins as carrycot sheets (I guess they would also work for the crib) I will probably do that, rather than splash out on expensive fitted ones which some places will no doubt try to sell me!

esme80 Wed 20-Feb-13 20:42:14

Ama when I was pregnant with ds (due in june) I was really worried about how to dress him and him over/under heating. They say dress babies in one more layer then yourself, but I just thought but I am always cold and wearing one more layer than everyone else so one more layer than me, or dh? But it wasnt that complicated when ds was born, feel babies chest with your finger to see if they are warm or cold. I also swaddled at night, so he either had short sleeved body suit or sleepsuit under.

I listened to friends and bought loads of muslins, didnt really see the need for that many atferwards. I mean they are washable..

BadMissM Wed 20-Feb-13 21:25:23

VinegarDrinker Didn't have any muslins for DD...she was born in France and they are not common there...

Amadablam Pram/Carrycot sheets are generally a standard size.

I had a 'grobag' for DD when she was little, it was brilliant, and above all, safe.

Cheese and Marmitemad My mother pushed her luck trying for 'Auntie' when DD was born.... I didn't let her get away with it. I used to call my grandma 'Ouma'. My Dad is known by DD as Fafa, I used to call my grandfathers 'Fafa' and 'Oupa'

Dinky Also guess was a temperature thing between here and Paris. Didn't swaddle DD a lot as it was too damn hot!

VinegarDrinker Wed 20-Feb-13 21:33:20

Re grandparent names - my Mum is Nana (her choice, fond memories of her own Nana), MiL is Grandma but DS calls her "Marmar", FiL is Grandpa but again DS has his own version "Papa" which I love and was my own Grandpa's name for the same reason! My Dad is Grandy - because his name is Andy smile

dinkystinky Wed 20-Feb-13 21:36:44

How funny BadmissM re the muslins. Did you use bibs? I never used bibs on the boys - probably because I had a handy cloth to hand for all eventualities.

Loving the gp names. Vinegar - your Ds is too cute!

CitizenOscar Wed 20-Feb-13 21:46:23

DS was born in warm June. I remember we all slept in our living room one night as it was coolest room in the house! Couldn't bring myself to just dress him in a nappy so think he was always in a vest but sometimes with just a muslin over him. I did swaddle on slightly less warm nights.

I think most of his newborn stuff was white. Felt appropriate in summer anyway.

Haven't bought anything for this one yet. I'll need some newborn stuff though as I borrowed quite a lot of stuff last time & bought from charity shops, which I then returned. I think a new blanket would be nice too. And maternity pads, nipple cream (used lansinoh last time, then gave away rest of tube as I only needed it for a week or so)... Can't really think of anything else!

CitizenOscar Wed 20-Feb-13 21:47:48

PS 20+1 today but still 10 days to go til scan - trying not to be impatient!

I'm always cold, so I always kept DD in one more layer than DH was wearing! It seemed to work well. She's just like him - always saying she's hot and taking her coat off. I'm sure she'd have overheated if he wore as many layers as me.

orangebubbles Wed 20-Feb-13 23:31:32

Hello all smile

Hope everyone is well.

Sorry if this conversation has been done and I missed it!
Sleeping: with DD we had her in a crib by the side of the bed, however, I had to get out of bed to pick her up (wont be so easy this time due to CS recovery) and didn't like not seeing her and she probably didn't like not seeing me! This led to a very informal co-sleeping practice which was less than great. So, this time round I'm looking at Babybay or bed nest (but will need a second mortgage for either of those options!). What are your thoughts/plans?

Have skim read to catch up, lots of good scan news.

About clothing, I'm cold so I dressed DD in one more layer than DH. She was born in a heatwave though so for the first two weeks of her life slept in a nappy with a muslin over her! To this day she loves running around with nothing more than a nappy on!!

Calmisthemantra Thu 21-Feb-13 07:25:27

orange I have bought this from amazon.

Baby bed multifunctional 3 in 1 co sleeping cot by Infantastic

Took a bit of searching to find it but i got it for £75 incl mattress!!! Really happy with it as I wanted a co sleeper with dd1 but no way I could afford it. For dd1 I ended up getting the John Lewis Eric cot (£70), took off the drop side and butted it up against the bed and wall then filled the gaps between the mattresses with tightly rolled towels and it worked really well for us.

Let me know if you can't find it on amazon and I'll link from my computer

VinegarDrinker Thu 21-Feb-13 07:56:48

We did the same as calm but with a cheap Ikea cot (£40). We used it as a co-sleeper til 1 then he moved with the cot to his own room and is in it still at just 2. I think we'll turf him out in to a toddler bed before the summer and do the same with the cot.

mysterymeg Thu 21-Feb-13 08:15:59

TMI but top tip I discovered by accident yesterday - if anyone is suffering from (ahem) pregnancy constipation blush I highly recommend eating a whole bunch of grapes in one sitting. Sorted it out in no time lol

bigbelly4 Thu 21-Feb-13 08:52:09

Morning ladies!
Re car seats we are going for an isofix this time round, as will 5 and 6 yo in back we dont want any accidentalu nclipping of seatbelt of car seat!

Told my mum about being 1:30 for downs yesterday and kind of wishing I hadnt as she is really worried, dont think she gets that there is still 29 chanc3s all will be ok!

Bump is huge, think 4th time round my bodyhas just gone "yep pregnancy, I remember that, lets go huge!" But feeling loys of movements now and have been in mat jeans since about week 14! First time round iwas desperate forthe bump and didnt get one till about 26 weeks!

Toodlepip for now,


dinkystinky Thu 21-Feb-13 09:48:59

We'll be reusing the stokke mini cot we used for Ds1 and Ds2 - I co sleep for the first month and then pop them in that. It should just about fit into our bedroom (or rather into the shoe and handbag storage area just off from our bedroom once I've had a shoe and handbag cull).

MightBeMad Thu 21-Feb-13 10:21:41

grin at the sad reality of shoes and handbags giving way to babies grin

I just ate half a (small) jar of nutella, with a spoon. It was the best thing I have ever tasted grin grin


MightBeMad Thu 21-Feb-13 10:22:53

Ps good luck to any scannees today!!

poalo was donna's scan yesterday? How did it go and did you find out the sex of the two ronnies?

iclaudius Thu 21-Feb-13 11:10:16

Poala I put my money on one of each !

dinkystinky Thu 21-Feb-13 11:21:17

Dont worry MightbeMad - will find somewhere else to put them grin

Paolo - I'm betting on 2 girls...

PhieEl06 Thu 21-Feb-13 11:31:05

Just popping on to say hi, I have posted on one of the old July threads before but then forgot about it. smile Trying to remember this time as currently need people to talk to & keep me sane through work (bored, nothing to do & only me in the office) & keep me away from Internet shopping.

Oh & I'm due 20th July with my first. grin

iclaudius Thu 21-Feb-13 11:37:16

Paolo sorry for my mispelling name lazy me hooting another poster!
I haven't even got a scan date yet nor an exemption thing and I've only done one appointment which was booking ...
Not moaning but wondering slightly ....

iclaudius Thu 21-Feb-13 11:38:28

Hooting ?? Copying !! I swear this new skinny iPhone makes my spelling 400 times worse -NOT feeling the love!

iclaudius Thu 21-Feb-13 11:38:53

My baby is one today - scary !

Just catching up. Lovely to hear scan news and thanks for all the advice on what baby wears in summer, had been wondering!
I'm only 19 weeks and spotted a STRETCHMARK this morning. It's the same colour as my skin so hardly visible, but HOW is that fair when my bump is hardly noticeable to the outside world?!?
Has anyone had them at this stage before, and were they much worse by the end? Am worried that if it's started now i'll be a zebra in 20 weeks time. I've been using bio oil and some extortionate clarins stuff i got from DP at Xmas, fat lot of good that did!!!
Sorry for rant. *sniff


dinkystinky Thu 21-Feb-13 12:07:25

iclaudius - happy birthday to your baby. Doesnt sound right re no exemption certificate - definitely worth following up on.

Phie - if you havent already, add your date in to the waddlers and riders list (link to that thread second post down on this thread)

Guavas - use the oils and the stretchmarks will be less visible to you.

iclaudius I had to go back to the GP surgery to ask for a form for the exemption certificate and leave it for a doctor/midwife to fill in & send off. The midwife didn't mention it at all and I only thought of it because I have to see the dentist soon. Only took about 10-14 days to get the card through.
Also surprised you don't have a scan date yet. Round here you ring up to make an appointment about 4 days after your 12 week scan, which is great, but they're really strict that you have to be within 3 days of 20 weeks. I wasn't allowed to book a scan for 20+4 when DH would be off work.
Happy birthday to mini-Claudius too!

Gingerpanther27 Thu 21-Feb-13 13:12:20

My iPad just got booted of bump shock grin

PhieEl06 Thu 21-Feb-13 14:10:45

Hehe GingerPanther I'm currently sitting with my iPad resting on bump & thinking I may be feeling my first few kicks, have been having them over the last few days but becoming a bit more definite!

MrsMillions Thu 21-Feb-13 14:17:40

Ginger - very funny about bump booting iPad!

Mine has been very wiggly today celebrating its half way point.

Dinky, mightbe - I had a shoe cull last night, can't believe how many I'm getting rid of but need the space and just wasn't wearing them.

Scan tomorrow!!

20 weeks today

SlouchingPanda Thu 21-Feb-13 14:27:54

Just been to the ladies and realised I have my maternity tights on backwards. Lovely and roomy round my arse, mind you...

20+0 (In the words of Jon Bon Jovi: woooooaaaaah! I'm half way there!) grin

dinkystinky Thu 21-Feb-13 14:49:37

Lol at the ipad bashing bumps!

Slouching - I'm wearing maternity tights today and they're driving me crazy as the bloody gusset keeps trying to head for my knees. Back to trousers tomorrow for sure!

photographerlady Thu 21-Feb-13 15:23:07

Hehee SlouchingPanda that song is going to be in my head the rest of the day now. I am looking forward to Monday my official 20 weeks too. Time has seemed to just fly by since 12 weeks which at the time felt like some long awaited milestone.

I have a dilemma. I have my old scan appointment on Monday and my new one the following monday. I am now feeling like I am so impatient and starting to talk myself into driving the whole way to my old place just to have the scan a week early. I am terrible I know...

Abzs Thu 21-Feb-13 15:32:03

Definite earworm there * SlouchingPanda*. Covers up the tinnitus a bit...

Bought some bump bands yesterday (but not a pushchair). They seem good for keeping the kidneys warm and holding up the maternity jeans that are bit big yet even though I absolutely need them.

orangebubbles Thu 21-Feb-13 15:55:10

Thanks calm looks good, shall put on list for consideration.

dinky how long were they in the stokke for? Seems like a hell of a lot of money if it's just for a few months but value if it'll take baby through to bed stage?

Mystery lol at your grape induced bowel movement!!

dinkystinky Thu 21-Feb-13 16:52:41

Orange - DS1 was in stokke till DS2 came along (when we moved him to toddler bed) - 2.10.

DS2 was in stokke (extends to a full cot and then to cot bed if you want) till he was nearly 3.

By the time this baby is done with it, we'll have had best part of 9 years use out of it (I get a new mattress each time) so not bad value if you think of it that way...

Main advantage of the stokke mini cot IMO is that its tiny and so can fit easily into bedroom and be wheeled around/out of the way if need be.

Cutandstick Thu 21-Feb-13 18:23:15

Anyone want a brand new pair of black 40 or 60 denier black maternity tights size large? I bought a bargain in mothercare a few weeks ago, except the box said medium... And the tights are large. Can check denier if you want. Just pm me, seems a shame to throw them out, and the parking at the shopping centre to return would cost more than the tights!

dinkystinky Thu 21-Feb-13 18:36:36

Cut - give Mothercare customer services a call if you have the receipt. They should send you the right size in the post enabling you to post the incorrect tights back to them.

After a day wrestling with maternity tights, I am now remembering why I prefer to wear trousers in pregnancy.

Sashabella0 Thu 21-Feb-13 19:43:30

Evening ladies hope you are all well. Lots of good news about the scans. Mine's not until 25th March. My hospital does a 32 week scan as standard so I suppose I'm lucky in that respect.

In other news I've broken my little finger walking the dog. It got caught around the lead and she pulled. It's my pip joint and I have the option of an operation to straighten the finger out else it might heal crooked. The surgeon said the operation is best done under general anaesthetic, bit that's obviously not an option for me. It can be done under local. Has anyone ever had any experience of this?

AmaDablam Thu 21-Feb-13 19:44:35

grin slouching at the tights story! I have to look at mine really carefully in the morning to make sure I get them the right way. I have found I get on quite well with them though, although I agree the gusset can sit a little bit low dinky, which did make me feel a bit paranoid the other night when I wore a short dress to a party.

BadMiss I called my grandparents Oma and Opa too (I'm assuming similar pronunciation despite slightly different spelling) as my mum is Dutch. We are planning to use the same for my parents and my mum was dead chuffed when we suggested it. Borrowing from another language is an excellent idea, I think, if you're after a name that doesn't sound too "Grandma-ish". If that doesn't feel right though, I've always thought Nana is a good one. That's what MiL will be, with FiL being the more conventional Grandad, as this is what our nephews already call them and it seemed sensible to keep continuity between the cousins. (Well, actually they call them "Big Grandad and Little Nana", based on their appearances. Bizarrely the opposites would have worked quite neatly for my parents but I couldn't have brought myself to refer to my mum "Big Nana" especially as she is only big in the height department!!)

I bought a lovely maternity maxi dress from H&M in my lunch break today, a right bargain at £5 in the sale. Only problem is, I somehow seem to have lost it between leaving the office and getting home confused. Really hoping it will still be by my desk when I get in tomorrow, although I swear I picked it up. What a dingbat (as DH kindly called me when I told him). Guess this is the start of "baby brain".....


CitizenOscar Thu 21-Feb-13 19:54:52

Anyone else feel super pregnant all of a sudden? Have had to get my gym ball out & inflate it to get me off the sofa and give my poor organs (and baby) a bit more space!

DH nearly passed out when I said I was 5 months pregnant & therefore struggling to carry DS1 round the supermarket (he's been ill). Well, it's a bit of an exaggeration at 20+2 but not that much!

What have people with DC already told them about the new baby? We've told DS (20 months) that I've got a baby in my tummy & he's going to have a little brother or sister, and we've got a couple of books about it. He strokes my belly & says "baby" and today he kissed my belly. grin

dinkystinky Thu 21-Feb-13 20:14:47

Sashabella I broke my little finger years back playing football - first joint up from knuckle. Didn't do anything about it and now have noticeable bump in the finger but apart from that its fine. I'm not sure about GA in pregnancy but hopefully one of our resident medics can advise.

Ama - hope you find your dress.

Citizen - ds1 and ds2 know all about the baby. Ds2 stuffs toys up his top and tells me he is pregnant too.can't wait to see him try to bf his toys. Ds1 is nearly 7 and really interested in the science side of things - am trying to explain it without going into too many specifics...

AmaDablam Thu 21-Feb-13 20:39:12

Sashabella I can't give any advice I'm afraid but just wanted to acknowledge your post and say ouch, poor you, sounds painful!

Dinky that made me chuckle about your DS - we went on holiday with 2 sets of friends with young kids earlier this year and there was a 2 month old breastfed baby in the group. One day the three older ones (girls aged 4 and 5 and a boy aged 3) came into the lounge with their tops pulled up, holding dollies or teddies to their nipples. The two girls told the boy in no uncertain terms that he could not feed his "baby" as he was a daddy not a mummy. He was most disgruntled about this!

BadMissM Thu 21-Feb-13 20:42:05

My problem with the co-sleeping idea is the layout of our stupid bedroom, size of our bed, and the location of the door. I'll be able to fit a moses basket widthways next to the bed, but not a co-sleeper... Unless I can talk DH into swapping sides, but he's really not keen....

Hi PhieEl

Iclaudius Not any scan yet? That's a bit odd....

Guavas Got stretchmarks right at the beginning, silvery ones, with DD..

Um, what exemption certificate? No-one has mentioned this to me yet? !

Sashabella Ow for the finger.... but good that your hospital do a 32 week as standard....

Amadablam Mine was because my grandparents lived in South Africa, so from the Adrikaans side, I guess! Borrowing from other languages good. I quite like the Scandinavian Mormor and Morfar too... DD has Nana and Fafa and Mamie and Papy (her father is French)...

It seems forever til my scan...2 more weeks yet!

dinkystinky Thu 21-Feb-13 20:54:28

Sasha - meant to say frozen peas in towel to regularly ice the finger helps bring swelling down and reduce the pain too.

VinegarDrinker Thu 21-Feb-13 21:23:21

Just realised I didn't get a Mat B1 at my last appointment and I need to hand it in to work by 25 weeks to claim mat pay. Bummer. I really don't want to take a day off work and make a MW appointment just for that!

Sasha Ask to talk to an anaesthetist about your options. they should be able to give you a nerve block that would provide very good operating conditions for the surgeon without you feeling any pain.

Supershiv1 Thu 21-Feb-13 21:58:05

Jealous of all the movement talk and paranoid as my boobs appear to have deflated suddenly....
12th March is my scan and have a wk away before then (holiday wardrobe dilemmas I did not consider when booking).
Between no movement and dressing myself I Must relax!!!

Persuasion Thu 21-Feb-13 21:59:34

Just a quick note to point out that mothercare has a half price sale on clothing. They also have a sale on pushchairs with 15% off if you spend over £100 - there's a code on the pushchair page of the main site (I can't find it now I'm on my mobile though) which you put in at the checkout.

So we have bought our pushchair grin a cosatto giggle.

Sashabella0 Thu 21-Feb-13 22:09:57

Thanks for all the advice. The finger isn't painful unless I move it. It is quite swollen and the surgeon is going to review it next week. I didn't ask if I would have reduced function if I didn't go ahead with the operation. If the only pro to an operation is aesthetics I think I'd rather leave it. Will keep you informed.

Oh I'm 18+1 by the way. Time is going so quickly! X

mysterymeg Fri 22-Feb-13 07:25:59

Ouch sasha no advice here just sympathy.

Re grandparents my baby gets three sets! Spoilt little one! DMIL and SFIL are already grandparents and so will remain Nan and Grandad.

DF wants to be grandpa (as that is what we called his late father). As my own granny and grandma are still very much with us DM has settled on gran - which goes nicely with grandpa. They weren't worried about sounding too granparenty luckily.

Re DFIL and SMIL were not sure what they will be called yet - we only made contact last year after 30 years of DH not seeing them. Everything has gone really great and DH loves having them and his siblings in his life but the may end up being Grandad Bill* and Nana Jean* (*not their real names).

V nervous about 20 week scan later confused had a nasty dream last night that I'd gone into premature labour. Will feel better once gone over 24 weeks I think.

20 + 0

Cheeseandbread Fri 22-Feb-13 07:32:07

Thank you all for suggestions on granny names. I'm sure one of them mu mum will like.

dinky and ama your stories made me chuckle.

phie we are due date buddies! grin welcome.

citizen I suddenly feel like my bump has got bigger!

sasha ouch for the finger.

paolo I hope the two ronnies or ronettes are doing well.

Congratulations to everyone else on good scans! It seems ages to wait until mine... I'll be having it at 21+2 as I'm on a residential the week I'm 20 weeks. Still not feeling much but then my placenta is anterior so I'm trying not to worry. Felt some almost fish flippy movements which I think was bean but not sure.

Off to take the cat for a flu jab at the vets in a mo.

Happy Friday everyone smile


Cheeseandbread Fri 22-Feb-13 07:35:22

mysterymeg we crossed posts. Good luck for your scan today!

MightBeMad Fri 22-Feb-13 07:39:38

Ouch sasha!! Sounds uncomfy.

Good luck for scan later [baby brain made me forget who] blush

esme80 Fri 22-Feb-13 07:44:55

Ouch sasha, sounds painful!

vinegar I called my midwife re mat b1 form and she just posted it to me, no need for an appointment.

My parents are called mormor and morfar, I try to speak mostly swedish to ds. Then mil and fil are nana and pops. My dh called his mother granny on one occasion and got quite a stern look for it.

Good luck for any scans today!

Before findng out gender at anomaly scan, I thought we had some girl names we really liked. Found out we are having a girl and I have gone off all of them! Can not think of a single girls name I even remotely like! Good thing we have about 19 weeks left I suppose...

PhieEl06 Fri 22-Feb-13 08:30:17

Yay Cheese!
Citizen my OH's niece (she's 2 & a half) was told last week I was having a baby & when I saw her afterwards she said "is there a baby in there" pointing at my belly, when I told her yes her reply was to her mom "can I go back into you mommy?" We were all rolling around laughing at her, now every time I think about it I have a little giggle!

CitizenOscar Fri 22-Feb-13 08:57:23

Haha Phie. Must seem like a comfy place to go back to! Or just curious as to what it was like?! Good luck to her grin

VinegarDrinker Fri 22-Feb-13 09:09:01

Hah I told DS he used to be in my tummy when he was a tiny baby and he just laughed hysterically and said "noooooo! mummy being silly!"

flyingsprocket Fri 22-Feb-13 09:13:50

Hi ladies. Turns out it wasn't meant to be for us this time. Went to hospital yesterday morning, my waters had already gone. And, although there was still a heartbeat, there was nothing that could be done.

The midwives & doctors were so lovely & thankfully I was able to get home to my own bed last night.

I sincerely hope that I'm the last one to leave this thread. Thank you all for your support & I wish you the very best for the next 20 weeks x

VinegarDrinker Fri 22-Feb-13 09:20:08

Oh gosh, I am so sorry to hear that flyingsprocket, so so sad. Take good care of yourself. X

PhieEl06 Fri 22-Feb-13 09:23:36

So sorry to hear that flying sprocket, hand holding here & praying for you. Xxx

dinkystinky Fri 22-Feb-13 09:25:43

Oh Flying, I am so so sorry to hear your news and am sending you and your DH big hugs. I really wish that your body recovers physically soon, and hope you get plenty of love and support to come to terms with your loss. If the hospital is offering counselling, please do think about taking it up as and when you are ready. Much love x

dinkystinky Fri 22-Feb-13 09:33:11

Sasha - I spoke to my parents (both doctors) about my finger at the time. The main risk in not resetting it etc is reduced mobility (which I dont have) and an increased risk of arthritis in the finger in old age. As everyone over the age of 65 in both sides of the family suffers from arthritis, I figured it was a risk I was willing to take. But definitely do speak to your Dr about pros and cons of surgery and if the nerve block option is available given your pregnancy.

BadmissM - maternity exemption certificate (now a pretty little card) is what gets you free prescriptions and dental treatment while pregnant and for a year after the baby is born. You should have been given the form signed by MW at first MW appointment.

Supershiv - is it boobs deflating or your bump getting bigger wink?

Vinegar - can you see if you can get the MATB1 faxed to you? Or left for you to pick up on your way to work?

esme80 Fri 22-Feb-13 09:57:09

flying I am so sorry to hear that. I hope you have a lot of support and can take time to rest and recover. Will be thinking of you. Xxx

McKTastic Fri 22-Feb-13 09:58:56

Will update another time just wanted to say how sorry I am to hear your news flyingsp. You have come across as being amazingly strong throughout the last few weeks when they must've been extremely worrying. I hope your strength helps you now. Thinking of you.

Runswithsquirrels Fri 22-Feb-13 10:15:51

Thinking of you flying and sending you good thoughts x

Abzs Fri 22-Feb-13 10:21:56

So sorry to hear that flying. Do take care of yourself. X

Thinkingof4 Fri 22-Feb-13 10:41:35

Oh flying I'm so sorry to hear that. What a shock for you both. I can't really imagine how you must be feeling, I hope you have lots of support just now xx

Cheeseandbread Fri 22-Feb-13 10:53:19

Flying so so sorry to hear your news. I hope you have lots of people supporting you. You are in my thoughts xx

CitizenOscar Fri 22-Feb-13 10:59:15

So sorry flying. Hope you have all the support you need. Xx

iclaudius Fri 22-Feb-13 11:34:37

Flying I am so sorry I had no idea there was any problem how shocking for you . Look after yourself xxx

BadMissM Fri 22-Feb-13 11:40:57

Oh, Flyingsprocket, I'm so, so sorry to hear that. I hope you have the love and support of your nearest and dearest, and I'm thinking of you xxxx

as dinky says, if councselling is offered, take it up. It's really worth it. I know it's not easy (been through it a couple of times myself), but use all the help available xxxx

Dinky hahahahaha! MW gave me nothing at first or second MW appt, and has now disappeared off of the face of the earth...I'm sure they think it's not going to happen... I'm going to have to chase it up like verything else, it seems....

MiniPenguinMaker Fri 22-Feb-13 12:04:35

So very sorry to hear your news, flyingsprocket. Take good care of yourself. Thinking of you.

MrsRoss26 Fri 22-Feb-13 12:08:22

Oh flying I'm so sorry, I hope you get all the love and support you need at home. I'll be thinking of you xxx

butterflyexperience Fri 22-Feb-13 12:28:32

Hi all

Joining in if ok

So sorry to hear flying. Hope your getting lots of rest xx

I'm 19 weeks now with twins 2nd scan nxt week very excited ! Hoping all will be well

I'm so sad for you flying. Can't begin to imagine what it's like for you, but as people have said you're in my thoughts and I hope you have lots of support around you.

Gingerpanther27 Fri 22-Feb-13 13:30:06

Sorry to hear that flying hope you have lots of support xxx

Cutandstick Fri 22-Feb-13 13:32:33

Big hugs flying you poor love. Thinking of you and your DP, be gentle with yourself xxxx

shelley72 Fri 22-Feb-13 13:34:36

oh dear god, so sorry to hear your news flying. hope you are getting all the support and love you need

Calmisthemantra Fri 22-Feb-13 13:44:00

Take care flying thoughts are with you and family

TomDaleysTrunks Fri 22-Feb-13 14:02:55

Oh gosh flying. Thinking of you all, sorry to hear your sad news. Will be thinking of you.

photographerlady Fri 22-Feb-13 14:33:14

aye thinking of you flying

MightBeMad Fri 22-Feb-13 14:56:56

Oh flying, I'm so so sorry to hear your awful news. My heart goes out to you and your dh x

Quinandthem Fri 22-Feb-13 15:02:24

so sorry to hear your news flying

look after yourself and dh.

Devilforasideboard Fri 22-Feb-13 16:59:17

So so sorry flying, my thoughts are with you xx

BB01 Fri 22-Feb-13 17:45:11

Flying am so very sorry, really am. Will be thinking of you and your family and hoping you have all the support you need. Nothing we can say to make it better but sending you virtual hugs and best wishes for the future xx

Persuasion Fri 22-Feb-13 17:47:50

Oh flying how awful, I'm so sorry. Look after yourself, I hope you have plenty of RL support?

elliejjtiny Fri 22-Feb-13 17:53:59

So sorry flying. If you want to share any details, photos etc of your baby then please do. I remember after my miscarriage wanting to show off my scan photo and talk about how long the baby was and how I thought he looked like DS2 but people said I shouldn't because it was weird. So not being nosy but if you want to talk about your little one I'm happy to listen.

VinegarDrinker Fri 22-Feb-13 17:59:33

Absolutely what ellie said. Talk to us as much as you want or need to.

elliejjtiny Fri 22-Feb-13 18:05:11

I've started a baby weight list so we can compare how heavy our babies are at the 20 week scans/growth scand etc to how heavy they are at birth. Thought it might be interesting to see if the heaviest baby now is still the heaviest in July. I did this with DS2 on another forum comparing weight at birth to weight at 1 year and there were quite a few changes. I'm also looking for reassurance that mine isn't the biggest grin. I'm always a bit scared that I'll end up with a massive one even though I've birthed 3 nearly 9lb babies without any problems.

cheekbyjowl Fri 22-Feb-13 18:09:02

flying you're probably not checking this any longer but there are many willing ears if you want someone to chat too but I hope you have plenty of support at home too

Stay strong. There'll be another time for you. X

Devilforasideboard Fri 22-Feb-13 18:28:16

ellie I had my scan today but they didn't tell me the weight. I've got another one in a couple of months so I'll make sure I ask then.

All was well at my scan and mini Devil is very definitely a little boy smile We were going to find out anyway but I spotted something that clearly wasn't the cord at the start and the sonographer confirmed it at the end. I'm a bit surprised as I really thought it was a girl but very happy and DH is over the moon and looking at Scalextric sets already hmm

dinkystinky Fri 22-Feb-13 19:03:19

No idea re weight of the bean Ellie - they didn't tell me at 20 week scan

Belated welcome Butterflies - add yourself and your due date to the list on the waddlers and riders thread (link on second post from the top). paolocee and his dp are expecting twins too.

dinkystinky Fri 22-Feb-13 19:04:11

Glad your scan went well and congrats on a boy Devil. Hope other scans today went well.

So sorry flying. We'll be here for you if you want us. I hope you're on another thread soon and can come back and let us know how things are going.

Welcome butterfly

ellie if I get a weight at the scan I'll be hoping its not another midget quite as small this time.

emblosion Fri 22-Feb-13 20:30:58

Oh Flying such horrible news, I'm so very sorry for your loss sad.

Take care of yourself xx

AmaDablam Fri 22-Feb-13 21:17:00

So very sorry to hear your news flying. Echoing what everyone else has said and thinking of you and your DH.

SlouchingPanda Fri 22-Feb-13 21:29:09

Oh, Flying - what heartbreaking news. I am so sorry for your loss, and glad you were treated sensitively by the doctors and midwives. Thinking of you. Xxx

SlouchingPanda Fri 22-Feb-13 21:31:58

And welcome Butterfly - our second set of twins! Exciting! Add yourself to our stats thread too.

SundaySunshine Fri 22-Feb-13 21:43:37

I'm desperately sorry to hear your sad news Flying. I know there are no words to ease the pain, but wishing you and your family well. Take care of yourself and best of luck for future x

butterflyexperience Fri 22-Feb-13 22:00:45

Thanks panda

orangebubbles Fri 22-Feb-13 23:42:09

flying I'm so sorry to hear your news, bless your precious angel who will always be loved and never forgotten. xx

flyingsprocket Sat 23-Feb-13 06:55:16

Hi ladies, thanks so much for your kind words. I've been awake since 0400 in a bit of discomfort but mostly because my mind is racing.

I had my sister with me in hospital as, unfortunately, my OH was on a flight 9 hours in the wrong direction (we're both pilots) He was able turn around & come straight home so he was with me at 1000 yesterday. Poor guy was just shattered. In a way it's a good thing he didn't see the delivery because I'm just playing it over & over in my mind.

Having had such prolonged bleeding the MC didn't come as a huge shock but it's obviously devastating nonetheless. Overall we're optimistic & are looking after eachother.

I have a friend who is due her 1st in July so I'll be living vicariously through her in the summer & thinking of you all too xx

dinkystinky Sat 23-Feb-13 07:15:28

Flying ((hugs))

I'm glad your sister was with you and your DH could fly home and is with you now. Its completely understandable that you are in discomfort of every kind. When you are ready, I would really recommend counselling - i have seen firsthand how it has helped dear friends who have had a traumatic loss through a dark confused time. Insomnia and reliving everything over and over is very common, and to be expected as you process what has happened. Take it easy today and make sure you look after yourself x

mysterymeg Sat 23-Feb-13 07:23:28

Oh flying I'm so sorry. Please take the time to look after yourself. I went through something similar a few years ago and know how awful it is. Rest and take it easy and don't be afraid to grieve. Have an unmumsnetty hug from me too x

Welcome butterfly more twins! Exciting stuff!

Scan went well. Little one was uncooperative though. Had to get up and jump around to get him to move (the use of him is not indicative of anything - we didn't find out lol). She still couldn't check his face and one angle of the heart that they're supposed to get so got to go back at 23 weeks for another scan. On the plus side everything checked is healthy and growth is spot on the middle of the centiles for everything.

Certainly getting my money's worth out of through nhs. This will be scan no 6 when I go back smile

20 + 1

notprincesskate Sat 23-Feb-13 07:28:39

flying so sorry to hear your sad news, thoughts are with you at your family x

Chinainthegarden Sat 23-Feb-13 08:28:08

Flying I've been lurking on this thread for a week or so, but just wanted to say I was so sorry to hear your news. I'm glad you and your DH are taking care of each other, I hope you get lots of time to come to terms with what has happened.

I had my scan yesterday for DC1. Having convinced myself (and DH) we were having a boy it turns out we're having a girl! Sonographer took a good look between the legs several times and said she was as sure as she could be. Took about an hour to stop mentally calling mini-China 'he'! Am now going to have to put my mind to thinking of girls' names. Of course my mother and grandmother say that they knew all along it was going to be a girl (apparently they could 'tell' from the 12 week scan photo, despite it only really showing the head!)

Supershiv1 Sat 23-Feb-13 11:20:46

flying absolutely gutted for you.
I kind of always felt we were on a similar journey as we both had bleeding and scans at similar times.
Plus although I haven't changed the due date thread we were due within 2 days of each other.
Take care and do keep popping in xxx

paolocee Sat 23-Feb-13 12:27:58

Oh, flipping hell, Flying, that's just so unfair. Our thoughts are with you.

The Two Ronnies are fine and dandy if a tiny bit behind schedule. Just a day or two, though. Unable to tell the genders yet. Will find out on next scan - March 25.

elliejjtiny Sat 23-Feb-13 12:57:22

I think you can work out the weight with a bit of maths if you know the head circumference, abdomen circumference and femur length. I'll see if I can find the sum for you all.

photographerlady Sat 23-Feb-13 13:52:43

So I was going through my notes and reading the nice "Guide to Pregnancy" book my midwife gave me. Last night my DH tucked me in and read the week 20-23 chapter out loud "vagina discharge, piles and leaky nipples". Geeez the look on his face smile

No more bed time reading for us I think.

paolocee Sat 23-Feb-13 15:12:13

I had been enjoying some fish pie, photographerlady.....shock

butterflyexperience Sat 23-Feb-13 17:06:49

Photo - hearing how the men are all confusedshock about pregnacy stuff always makes me snigger.
Especially when we have to deal with all their <ahem> leaks! wink

dinkystinky Sat 23-Feb-13 18:04:20

Welcome China - please add yourself and your due date to the due date list - link second post down on thread. Glad your scan went well - and yours too MysteryMeg.

Ellie - thanks but my maths is worse than abysmal so I'd probably calculate a 10 tonne bean. Mind you given the size of my bump...

Photographer - remind him that those are only things that might happen, not necessarily will...

dinkystinky Sat 23-Feb-13 18:13:54

Glad the two Ronnies are doing well Paolo.

photographerlady Sat 23-Feb-13 18:37:05

Oh no it was light-hearted and we laughed about it. The funniest thing was each chapter has good info about baby growth and little side bit about side effect but nope not chapter week 20-23 and it just happen to be the one he read out smile

dinkystinky Sat 23-Feb-13 18:39:48

Thank god for that - had visions of your dh terrified that you were turning into the creature from the black lagoon :-)

MummyKanny Sat 23-Feb-13 18:41:42

Oh flying, how impossibly sad. Thinking of you. I can't imagine what you're going through, hope you're being looked after.thanks

19+2 today, feeling a lot more movement. Not sure if they are kicks but they are certainly more pronounced. Looking forward to the scan on Thursday, although it isn't until 4:30 so the wait is going to be unbearable! At my last appointment the doctor said I was at risk of having an incompetent cervix (due to a colposcopy just over a year ago) so pretty nervous about that.. Hoping everything is okay, not sure I like the idea of being stitched up!

So has anyone else been to the Baby Show? We managed to pick up a couple of bargains. There is a lot of stuff that seems superfluous but some good deals to be had. Would love to hear about any good deals people managed to nab.


dinkystinky Sat 23-Feb-13 18:53:07

Not been to baby show MummyKanny but saw an article on the giant bouncer for adults being shown there - did you pick one up?

flying i am really sorry, it is sad sad news. we won't forget you and your baby on our thread. i am glad your dh is with you.

would have loved to have gone to the baby show mummykanny but no where near it -is it the london one or birmingham? i know both no good.
does anyone know if you have to be a member to go to an nct sale?
also co-sleeping cots-are they able to be raised up and down or do you have to hope your bed is standard height?
have just received most of my baby kit back from sil. i am so lucky as told her when i gave it to her that she could do what she wanted with it, i wouldn't need it ever again-little did i know... feel a bit bad as she has 1 dd who is 3 and is v keen to have another but i know my brother is making her wait (or washmm (wouldn't have put up with that myselfwink. anyway sil has been quite weird about handing stuff back (she thinks some of her sister's stuff might be in it too). she is not good about talking about these things so haven't managed to have a conversation about it all. think they might be trying now too maybe-arrgh, family dynamics!

also, do we think the babies will need a cotton hat for coming out of hospital? and would they overheat if they were wearing woollen knitted cardigan?

princess the one I'm hoping to go to in March just opens half an hour earlier for members, everyone else can come after that. I didn't think that an extra half an hour was worth paying extra for to be honest - would just make me spend more as more on offer :-)

dinkystinky Sat 23-Feb-13 19:22:09

Princess - can't speak as to cosleep cots as just cosleep in my bird for first couple of weeks. You will only need cotton hat for baby if weather is cool - given recent summers its anyone's guess as to whether that will be the case or not! Ditto the wool cardis (they will be handy for cool evenings anyway).

dinkystinky Sat 23-Feb-13 19:25:18

Hmm incomprehensible last post meant to say cosleep in my bed. Fricking autocorrect.

photographerlady Sat 23-Feb-13 19:49:05

Glad others are feeling movement. Sadly I'm feeling none at all which I am trying to not get too worried about as my scan is the week after next and don't want to get worked up. I am hoping its just because its my first and I naively don't know what it should feel like :/

dinky black lagoon heehee

princess our NCT nearly new sales start in April. Not sure what I will need maybe a baby bath and some cloth nappies.

elliejjtiny Sat 23-Feb-13 20:01:11

princess DS1 was born in July (2006 so very hot that year) and his first outfit was a vest, sleepsuit with no feet, matching hat and socks. The midwife came round the next day and took off his sleepsuit and hat, saying he was too hot.

DS3 was born in January (2011) and was wearing a sleepsuit, vest, knitted cardigan and cotton hat. The midwife came round the next day, told me off for letting his feet go blue and shoved him down my nightie to warm up before phoning the childrens ward in a mad panic who said we needed to come in. When we arrived (after adding socks, booties and a thick blanket to DS3's outfit) he was absolutely fine and his feet were a more healthy colour but we were kept in for 4 hours and left feeling a bit daft.

So maybe I'm not the best person to ask grin

ha! that's quite funny ellie, i was pg with my first the summer of 2006 and nearly went mental with the heat, total crazy lady!

esme80 Sat 23-Feb-13 21:11:07

I remember saying to anyone who would listen when ds was born (june 2011) that I wouldnt be heavily pregnant again during summer. Obviously listened to myself...

MightBeMad Sat 23-Feb-13 21:21:40

Photo I'm in the same boat: 18+4 and still no movement. Everyone I've spoken to has been very reassuring so I'm trying (and failing!) not to freak out!

lizincornwall Sat 23-Feb-13 21:31:20

Flying - sending you guys our thoughts & hugs. You sound amazingly strong to be able to tell us about it so clearly. Hope you're gettinglotsof support & love x

Photographer - i didn't feel anything until about 23 weeks with DD, i think the books are a bit optimistic if it's your first - like due dates, i think they should give you a big old 'window', instead of an 'average' number of weeks! You'll know it when you feel it smile

Butterfly & China - welcome :0)

All ok here. 17+6. Haven't checked the board for a while, but have loved catching up on everyone's news tonight.
We finally orded the Oyster Max after it came in to our local nursery shop & both me & DH loved it. We didn't think we wanted a tandem buggy, but thereyou go! Does anyone know what the waiting list is on these? i want to get DD in it right away so I can get used to it smile

dinkystinky Sat 23-Feb-13 21:35:41

Very funny - DS1 was born April 2006 just as the heatwave started. He spent his first few months in just vests and nappies, bless him. Mind you that was the last baking summer I can remember. We definitely used the cardis hats etc for ds2 in summer 2009!

MummyKanny Sat 23-Feb-13 21:47:15

The Baby Show was the one in London, was pretty huge and disappointed I didn't come across the huge adult bouncer! But got a mothercare playmat for £20 which was a £25 discount. Also bought a pushchair and a cot which was not planned but too good a deal to miss! I think the show is on in Birmingham too in May.

MummyKanny Sat 23-Feb-13 21:50:47

DH saw the giant bouncer and said a woman was struggling to get out of it! Haha!

orangebubbles Sat 23-Feb-13 23:37:50

mightbe and photo apol's can't remember but is this your first baby? If so please don't worry about not feeling baby move. Most women don't feel their first baby until sometime after 20weeks. Unless of course they are mistaking a little wind for movement or are just competitive about how soon they felt it!!! [Grin] Also if you have an anterior placenta you'll feel much later too.

mightbe and photo if it's any consolation I'm still not convinced that what I'm feeling isn't just gas and my own heartbeat! Can't wait to know for sure that it's baby...


esme80 Sun 24-Feb-13 07:11:01

I dont think I felt my ds (first baby) till after 20 weeks, and I didnt have an anterior placenta. And remember everyone asking me daily if I had felt movement yet and getting really stressed about it! This time I have (probably imagined) felt movements very early on. Maybe its like bumpsize (mine is enormous) everyone is different.

MightBeMad Sun 24-Feb-13 08:49:53

Thanks orange, esme and guavas. It's my second. Felt my first from 15 weeks and by this stage could see the kicks distorting my tummy from the outside (she was a veryactive baby!!). I do have an anterior placenta with this one so hoping that accounts for the difference, but it doesn't help that I was already a bit concerned by how little (ie not at all) this bean was moving at each of the three scans we've had so far. Only 8 days til scan day...

Calmisthemantra Sun 24-Feb-13 08:59:12

I think it was princess I think most co sleeper cots have lots of height positions to match it up with your own mattress. The one we bought from infantastic certainly does. With dd1 when we just used a basic cot and took a side off, it had 3 height positions and luckily the middle one was right for us.

cheekbyjowl Sun 24-Feb-13 10:30:53

photographer and mightbe do you think you're feeling flutters but not recognising them. I sometimes get mine confused with hunger and don't know whether to feel happy or eat. I usually go for eating smile
Speaking of which my bump is now appearing accompanied by some disconcerting surrounding wobble. I would like to look like I'm storing a neat little melon under my clothes but it looks more like a rubber ring. [shock I heard that if you carry weight more around than up front its a sign its a girl. Is that just a myth?

dinkystinky Sun 24-Feb-13 10:33:26

Cheek - i have always carried up front ( put it down to short body) and have 2 boys. More to do with body shape than sex of child ime.

Huffpot Sun 24-Feb-13 12:45:12

Haven't had a chance to read everything yet but just wanted to telling Flying I'm thinking of you and sending you many hugs thanks

photographerlady Sun 24-Feb-13 13:09:08

cheek I do hope it's missed flutters as really I feel like there hasn't been anything.

Last night was my first night of leg pain. I was up and down all night. No cramps but between the sore legs and weird dreams I was up all night.

photographerlady Sun 24-Feb-13 13:39:01

Aww that post makes me sound so moany. I'm sofa napping to make up for my bad night sleep. Hopefully the lack of movement will be put to rest next Monday at my scan. Have a great Sunday everyone.

I don't think you sound moany, photographer. Anyway, it's good to vent our frustrations on here a bit to avoid being moany IRL.

Is anyone else unable to relax about their pregnancy despite nothing to suggest that there's anything wrong? I seem to have a constant feeling of vague unease and I'm starting to get anxious about what will happen at the scan next week. I was worried before the dating scan too. I'm a natural pessimist, but I'd really like to be able to just relax and enjoy this pregnancy. I think the fact that it took so long to get pregnant doesn't help either.

marmitemad Sun 24-Feb-13 16:02:50

egg I totally understand your feelings about not being able to relax. I've been waiting nearly 4 years for this baby and despite all the trauma we've had i feel I'm pushing my luck with wanting dc2 as we have many friends unable to have dc1. I still check the heartbeat everyday with my Doppler despite feeling beanie moving and am just expecting there to be complications at some point. Dh tries very hard to reassure me, even looking up stats on the Internet, sometimes it helps a bit.

esme80 Sun 24-Feb-13 17:11:36

I am also a bit nervous, despite no reason to be. Relaxed a little after anomaly scan went well. It took me a year to get pregnant with ds. Not uncommon I know, but I kind of expected it to take a bit of time second time. So when I got pregnant first month of trying it has taken a while to believe it. With ds I worried a bit less the further along I got. Of course then I had him and started worrying full on again!

photographerlady Sun 24-Feb-13 17:33:08

egg I'm so uneasy too, TTC for three years and this was my first ever pregnancy so even though I am not as terrified as my 12 week scan I can't help to still be so nervous.

dinkystinky Sun 24-Feb-13 18:05:06

To be honest I think its normal to be apprehensive in pregnancy - whether its your first or fourteenth - as each pregnancy is different but you still keep comparing it to what the books say, your friends (real and invisible via mn) say and previous experiences.

dinkystinky Sun 24-Feb-13 18:06:06

Photographer - hope you got some rest today and your legs are OK.

MightBeMad Sun 24-Feb-13 18:58:01

Yep, very apprehensive here too! I'm sure I'll get some relief from that if the scan is good (about an hour's worth wink)

Glad to hear I'm not the only one! (although, obviously I'd be happier if none of us were apprehensive at all)
I think working in a hospital doesn't help. You get a bit of a warped view of what life is like, because you see sick people all the time and forget about all of the healthy people out in the real world. I think it's easy to lose sight of what a small proportion of the population are ever really unwell.

photographerlady Sun 24-Feb-13 20:14:14

Thank you dinky and everyone else. I know need to just take things at it comes but like many things in a first pregnancy I don't know how I'm meant to feel or how to reassure myself. I know the hormones don't help but I hate to say it but find abit of comfort to know I am not alone.

MrsMillions Sun 24-Feb-13 20:25:34

Delayed update from a Friday scan as I've been "back home" for the weekend. I also had a slightly uncooperative baby and had to move positions a few times to be able to see everything, but got there eventually. Sonographer lady confused us by asking about finding out gender as "so is this a private baby or..." - no no, we thought, we're not paying anything, then all became apparent! So still set for our surprise but I'm not sure we'd have been able to find out if we wanted to, due to positioning.

In contrast to some of you I'm getting a bit worried about the amount of movement I AM feeling...scan revealed anterior placenta but am sure I feel multiple movements every day (not gas) despite this, am I growing a future boxing champ in there??!!

Went to visit a nursery afterwards and it seemed good but we have no frame of reference so going to visit another at some point for a comparison.

Spent a lot of Saturday with good friends whose DD I am godmother to and DS is a month old. Had lots of fun, and my friend gave me a load of maternity clothes she has no intention of needing again, a tens machine, and newborn babygros, vests etc, some of which unused as their v cute and chilled little boy was too big to ever wear them. Quite a collection and absolutely lovely of her to pass all on to us.

Flying - no idea if you'll be back to read this but so sorry to hear your news, look after yourselves and hope you're back on a new thread as soon as you feel ready. In the meantime I can highly recommend the therapeutic powers of a sunny, relaxing holiday for you and DH, did us the power of good after losing one last year, and imagine your jobs give you access to such things at good prices.


Cheeseandbread Sun 24-Feb-13 21:08:30

I hope everyone has had nice weekends.

Like photographer and others I've been a bit aprehensive lately. I have a question... I don't think I'm feeling kicks but I do feel a build up of pressure on different occasions and when I press lightly on my tummy (womb area) where the pressure is building, it is hard... Are these kicks?

Also been feeling slight pain in my lady area, cervix I think... I felt this early on but not for a while now- is it normal? Does it just mean I'm stretching some more? Please say yes... Google is not my friend I started to find information about an incompetent cervix...

dinkystinky Sun 24-Feb-13 21:14:52

Glad you had a good scan and weekend MrsMillions. Lovely of your friend to pass on all that stuff.

Cheese - if it feels hard and like a squeeze its likely to be braxton hicks - practice contractions - you are feeling. Baby will feel like something tapping or flipping over in you.

dinkystinky Sun 24-Feb-13 21:16:08

PS pain in cervix area v common - not sure what causes it but 4 out of 10 at pg yoga were complaining of it today.

MightBeMad Sun 24-Feb-13 21:22:00

Yep pain in cervix/pelvic floor v v common. I worried myself silly about incompetent cervix last time but no, everything fine, pregnancy is just jolly uncomfy! (less uncomfy second time around though, interestingly. I guess there's nothing left to stretch!!) grin

dinkystinky Sun 24-Feb-13 21:29:20

Second time round the foundations have already been laid Might be mad :-)

Cheeseandbread Sun 24-Feb-13 21:31:33

Thanks for the reassurance dinky and mightbe

MarieKL Sun 24-Feb-13 21:40:06

Just catching up after not checking for ages. Flying I'm sorry if I've missed you but you and your DP are in my thoughts and prayers.

Welcome to all those joining us, and lovely to hear all the scan news. Ours went well though DS looked at the two screens and announced look 2 babies! Took a while to explain there is only one!

I'm nervous too, but can't place why. Feeling movements now but didn't feel anything till 24 weeks with DS1. To be honest the movements give me the ebbie jebbies but good to know bump is wriggling away. I think I must be the only one who isn't too keen on them, but they remind me too much of a scence from the film Ailen!

Can't remember who was mentioning a baby bath but I wish we'd got a washing up bowl for DS 1 instead. He loved being bathed in one at his Nan's. It wasn't so heavy to empty and despite trying to give our bath to friends twice it's always come back!

Hope everyone has a good week.

dinkystinky Mon 25-Feb-13 08:47:51

MarieKL - glad your scan went well too. We had a tummy tub for DS1 (which we used for DS2 and will for this baby) for when they were tiny - I quite liked having a baby in a bucket (and they loved being in water up to their shoulders too). I'd recommend it to anyone - and you can pick second hand ones up really cheap from ebay...

photographerlady Mon 25-Feb-13 10:06:58

Morning all! 20 weeks today so will be joining the halfway there club smile

dinkystinky I have seem those tummy tubs, look very interesting but as Marie has mentioned we will probably use a washing up tub. We accidentally purchased a second on when we moved so its in the kitchen collecting dust. I guess we will just put it to use.

No leg pain last night thank goodness, must of just been a weird night, as last night I slept like a rock. Well a rock that was using the poor DH as a pregnancy pillow, had him trapped in the duvet as I leg locked him coverless. This pregnancy is making me one classy gal.

dinkystinky Mon 25-Feb-13 10:54:29

Fair enough Photographerlady - washing up bowls wouldnt have worked for me as I seem to give birth to long legged babies (I had to cut off all the feet on their baby grows from 4 weeks! Bloody DH and his tall thin genes). Can see it would be perfect for non-freakishly long babies.

Re leg pains, I used to get bad leg cramps in pregnancy with DS1 and DS2. Mag Phos tablets really helped reduce those. Havent had any yet so far this pregnancy but a while to go yet..

MrsRoss26 Mon 25-Feb-13 11:10:22

Photographer absolutely everything about this pregnancy seems to be making a classy lady of me - the ungainly walk (thanks to pgp), the trapped wind, restless legs, the pillows wedged everywhere at night. Thankfully my DH is taking it very well so far - and I'm really hopeful of certain things returning to normal post-pregnancy!

A colleague passed on a tummy tub to me - they're odd-looking things, aren't they? She didn't use it at all, but I'm hoping to at least try it as it was free.

I definitely felt the baby move on Friday for the first time - s/he was having a solid wriggle. I don't think I've ever been so in awe of something. To those asking about cervix pain - I'm also getting the odd twinge here and there which I generally attribute to uterus stretching / potential braxton hicks.

18+5 (scan next week and can't wait! Hopefully DH will be able to come too.)

bigbelly4 Mon 25-Feb-13 11:45:43

Ha ha ladies! Who said pregnancy was glam! With the aches and pains to burps and constipation, its such a lady like time - not!

Got my scan on friday, which is aslo my eldests 8th birthday! So have enlisted my parents to look after the children whilst we go to scan - thankfully ds1 is very understanding (with bribary and the promise of birthday tea out and party the next day!)

Have just booked some camping for the end of the summer hols with a friend - my dh is a farmer so mega busy and we find it better being away as much as pos over summer hols - but this year taking a friend with me (and her older ds x2) to keep me sane!

Eek not much more to say really, hope evryone is well and despite the grim sides of this pregnancy lark, enjoying it too! X

MiniPenguinMaker Mon 25-Feb-13 12:24:02

Ooh, I really like the look of those tummy tubs - I'd rather like an adult one, all for me! I'd settle for a hot tub though... wink

Getting so impatient for my 20-week scan, which I'll be having at 21+3. I've been feeling some little movements on and off lately. Including some that feel like the little one is kicking me right in the cervix! Very funny feeling.


dinkystinky Mon 25-Feb-13 13:55:13

At the gym today I had 2 women come over and tell me how great it was I was exercising so late in my pregnancy. I had to point out I'm only just 5 months - the looks on their faces were just like this shock

So I have had official confirmation I am ginormous. Ho hum.

Glad you got positive comments dinky.

For some reason my mum decided to buy the (Shhh) Mail on Sunday blush (I think she was tempted by the Delia pull out). Anyway, there was a pretty positive article about exercise in pregnancy, following on from an article they'd done recently about a woman who got loads of abuse of exercising in pregnancy. My mum had been asking in terms of me giving up running soon, but is now much more relaxed about it. (And also recalls playing squash until she was 7 months pregnant with me, which is much more hazardous!)

Persuasion Mon 25-Feb-13 16:15:51

Pregnancy is certainly not glamorous! This morning DH said I seem to have reverted to some sort of primal state where all I do is eat, pee and fart, and I'm totally ruled by my emotions!

Congrats to those with good scans in the last few days.

dinky how embarassing. I'm also ginormous (and it's my first, so no excuses). Although it seems to change day to day whether people think I'm big, small or just right. The most recent one (now we know it's a girl) is 'oh yes, you can tell it's a girl because you're carrying low' - I mean, really, what does that even mean??

I'm definitely feeling movement now, which seems to come in bursts. Then I worry when baby is quiet, and have to remind myself she's probably just sleeping!


BooStar Mon 25-Feb-13 16:29:05

I haven't been online for quite a while & its taken me ages to catch up with you all but want to say first that I'm so so sad to hear the news about Flying. If you are still popping by I can only second someone's recommendation of counselling - it was invaluable for me. And the other recommendation of a holiday, it's no compensation but I found to just get away from reality for a bit really helped.

So I'm now trying to remember all the topics that have come up over the last 4hrs it's taken me to catch up with the thread that I wanted to comment on - I really should have a notepad and pen handy when reading coz by the time I come to post my mind is blank.

I remember someone was asking about cots and co-sleeping. We were given a standard cot and it seemed a shame not to use it (even though I coveted the specialised co-sleeper side cots) so DH took the front off and attached to the side of our bed with cable ties. We used big books under the feet to bring it up to the right height! I think it actually worked really well and it was nice to have the extra space of a full cot for DS to grow into. And the intention was that we would put the front back on and he would naturally move into it when he stopped feeding in the night. Although by the time he was a bit more robust he was in the bed with us and we took off the cot and put a side guard on the bed instead and he didn't stop feeding in the night til he was 13 months!!
So he then went straight into a standard single at 2yr so never actually used the cot as its intended!!

MIL has just turned up so will try & post again later!

dinkystinky Mon 25-Feb-13 17:15:10

Seriously Persuasion - I am all bump. I look like one of the kiddie drawings with a huge round body and tiny arms and legs...

SlouchingPanda Mon 25-Feb-13 18:15:31

Just a quickie to say that all looked well on my 20 week scan today. We didn't find out the sex (our choice) and the child was wriggling around in there like a good-un. Hurrah!

Hope the rest of you are all coping with the aches, pains, piles and other associated pregnancy woes.


MightBeMad Mon 25-Feb-13 18:24:47

Congrats on the scan slouching!

I got asked for the first time yesterday if I was sure it wasn't twins blush by my dad! angry

Cheeseandbread Mon 25-Feb-13 18:27:10

dinky loving the mental picture ha ha ha

Boostar I like the sound of the cable tie idea.

penguin lucky you feeling lots of movements!

I know we covered this earlier but my brain can't contain all the things we chst about... at what week are people planning to go on maternity leave? I was thinking 35 weeks... DH is pushing me to go for 37/38 saying I can bring it forward if it gets too much but won't be able to push it back if I'm still feeling fine...

Hope anyone who had a scan today went well.

MightBeMad Mon 25-Feb-13 18:30:59

Congrats on the scan slouching!

Dinky, I got asked for the first time yesterday if I was sure it wasn't twins blush by my dad! angry

MightBeMad Mon 25-Feb-13 18:32:12

Oops! Duplicate posts! Sorry!

MightBeMad Mon 25-Feb-13 18:34:18

Cheese, I was aiming for 36 weeks last time and really struggled to extricate myself earlier when I was really struggling and wanted to finish, because my work were expecting to have me until then. This time I'm going at 32 weeks!

AmaDablam Mon 25-Feb-13 19:05:25

Hello, just catching up after a busy weekend, mostly spent celebrating nephew's 7th birthday. On the way back from his party (20 very lively 6 and 7 year olds!) DH said he was now starting to worry about how we would cope with that kind of thing, and where you would even start organising a kids' party. I actually quite enjoyed it, plus I pointed out we could always ask SiL's advice when it comes to our turn, as she seemed to have done an excellent job. It's where do you even start with looking after a newborn that terrifies me far more!!!

On movement/anxiety, I've been pretty sure about feeling movements for about the past 2 weeks, but as my scan approaches, paranoia is starting to set in and I'm wondering whether I've just been imagining things. I go through all sorts of scenarios in my mind, from being told something is seriously wrong with the baby to finding out there is actually no baby in there at all (this last bit is totally ludicrous when I have photos to prove there was a very healthy looking baby in there at 12 weeks!). I think the miniature bump, which doesn't seem to have grown much for about the past 3 weeks and constant comments of "you really can't tell" are not helping matters.

Someone was asking about NCT sales - we are going to one on 16th March as we are booked onto a First Aid course through NCT on the same day at the same venue. We are members anyway, but the First Aid lady said we get to go in "with the members at 1pm" so I assume that means an earlier start time before it opens up to anyone, as someone else mentioned.

Agree with everyone who says pg is un-glam! What with the various "emissions", hairy tummy, falling asleep on the sofa at 8pm.....The only things that could be remotely associated with the word glamour are my oversized boobs, and I'm not sure that's a good thing blush!!


BadMissM Mon 25-Feb-13 19:29:39

Gosh, you've all been busy! Turn my back for a second, and the conversation goes crazy!

marmitemad I can't quite believe everything is going OK...keep pinching myself...

This is not my first pregnancy...but have had problems before....

I just can't wait til the scan next week...it seems to be taking forever!

TotallyEggFlipped I don't think having worked in public service/medical/education sectors helps at all...you know all the things that can go wrong!

photographerlady Difficut in first pg, as you really don't know what you are supposed to be feeling!

MrsMillions I've also got an antrerior placenta, but get kicked at bedtime! Sounds like you had a good weekend! Wish I had lots of friends with little babies!

Cheese I had Braxton-Hicks really early with DD and have had a few this time....

MightbeMad Unless there's 14 years between 1 and 2....now it's all hurting again!

photgrapher I am slowly taking the bed over with pillows and becoming a mistress of duvet-stealing!

Dinky Oh dear for gym ladies.... I was told I looked enormous by Dh's sister yesterday...hmmmmmm!

Second all the comments about lack of glamour.... and ages to go yet!


Cheeseandbread Mon 25-Feb-13 19:39:30

ama your nephew's party sounded fun. I think it is normal to be paranoid... I keep thinking that maybe when the midwife checked the heartbeat at 16 weeks she got my pulse and not the baby...

mightbe thanks for letting me know when you are planning on going on maternity- I still have some work to do on DH I think...

dinkystinky Mon 25-Feb-13 19:50:27

Cheese - you are the one growing and carrying this baby, you should decide when you go on mat leave, not DH! I think for your first child its nice to have some time to look forward to nesting before they arrive - enjoy the lie ins, the freedom to do what you want when you want - before the baby turns your life upside down (in a good way). You wont get that opportunity again with subsequent pregnancies (well not without mummy guilt). I worked till 38 weeks with ds1 and was shattered and super stressed by the end of work - with ds2 I worked till 37 weeks and that was more manageable (and he came a week later anyway). Will prob work till 37 weeks this time too.

iclaudius Mon 25-Feb-13 20:50:11

Hello all. Feeling nervous - got consultant tomorrow who made us promise dp would have vasectomy last time and now ....

Am actually dreading telling her.
Also getting a bit panicky as ds had some ( very rare) cord issues last time and some googling last time indicated familial. ... Gah.

Anyway - feeling v fat but noo bump at all although only 18 weeks so earlier than all of you!! NEED one now to stop me just looking bulky!
Need scan too - no date as yet nor darn exemption form ... Sorry for moan moan moan post!

iclaudius Mon 25-Feb-13 20:51:27

Also SPD has pounced with avengence the last too days 'stinging' and ouch!!

elliejjtiny Mon 25-Feb-13 21:14:50

iclaudius I've got the consultant tomorrow too, hope it goes well and isn't as scary as you think. There have been a few HCP's who have told me not to have any more but I haven't had to see any of them so far.


Devilforasideboard Mon 25-Feb-13 21:28:02

Cheese I'm using some annual leave to go part-time for a month from 30 weeks then using the rest of my leave to finish at 34/35 weeks. I've got quite a hefty commute which I really don't fancy when I'm getting huge and the weather is warmer. I also like the idea of a bit of nesting/me time like dinky says. Why is your DH so keen on you pushing on? I think mine would be quite happy if I finished now, bless him.

Supershiv1 Mon 25-Feb-13 21:37:32

So a colleague told me today she is due 24th July with her 2nd and her belly hasn't 'popped' yet.
I'm on my first & due 3days later & although 5lb lighter than when I started I have a very defined belly.
I would say we are similar sizes so it just goes to show! She is only really telling people now, whereas I wouldn't have been able to conceal it!

Supershiv1 Mon 25-Feb-13 21:38:54

Oops movements - when I changed gear in the car I thought I can feel something a couple of times??

SundaySunshine Mon 25-Feb-13 22:29:59

Hi all,
Great news on more good scans.

Cheese, I worked til 37 weeks with DD then used two weeks of annual leave to take me up to 39 weeks, figured I'd have more time with babe before going back to work; I was 2 wks late so it did get a bit dull sitting around waiting towards the end. But I think it depends on how you are feeling generally - this time round I'm finding it all rather uncomfortable and tiring already ( this bump is much bigger than DD, I think I'm incubating a monster!) but I'm gonna try to hang on till 37 wks again.

Can't remember who mentioned trying to work out the weight from scan measurements but I'd be interested on the formula. My DD was a neat 7 lb 8oz with a tiny head, but I really struggled to get her out. This boy is touching the top percentiles on most measurements which I'm finding a bit alarming shock.

Just had our bathroom fitted so the house is in turmoil and the new shower unit is leaking angry finding it difficult to stay calm with these raging pregnancy hormones!

Good luck for those with consultants meetings tomorrow and any of you having scans smile

22 + 5 ( ish)

cheekbyjowl Mon 25-Feb-13 23:30:22

For mat leave i'm hoping to hold on at work for as long as possible, so that i can spend more time with the baby when it arrives, but that's because i'm anxious about childcare and delaying it as much as possible. However, i might change my mind if i end up driving 45 miles round the m25 with my waters breaking! But i bet there are plenty of advantages in stopping earlier too - you will be better rested, probably less anxious and have time to get ready. It's got to be your decision.

Ama the NCT sale near me is the 16th too - are you in Manchester by any chance?

cheekbyjowl Mon 25-Feb-13 23:48:47

sunday was it the estimated birth weight they calculated or the current weight? My scan notes from today gave the formula for estimating the weight it is now which was the hadlock (BPD-HC-AC-FL) or at least that's what it says on the chart. They estimate sprog at about 313g on that. but not sure about predicting future weight.

Ama i empathize with the bazooker situation. I have gone from a c cup to an e. I thought if they can't find my baby in my stomach when i have the scan, i'd request that they checked further up! I thought a little extra goodness would be a good thing but at this rate i'm going to look like heidi montag only without the abs- so anne widdicombe perhaps!

iclaudius Mon 25-Feb-13 23:51:11

Good luck tomorrow Ellie hope it sets your mind at ease x

Hai1988 Tue 26-Feb-13 08:25:03

Scan day has arrivied smile hopefully finding out the gender today smile

dinkystinky Tue 26-Feb-13 08:59:29

Good luck for scans and consultant appointments today those having them. Iclaudius - the consultant probably sees lots of people so may well have forgotten forbidding you to procreate further... make sure you mention the spd though to get physio referral. Ellie - hope the consultant appointment goes well and they can advise you further re the cleft palate treatment.

Cheek - that was my thinking first time round (have as much time as possible with baby) but as I was on a deal which signed 3 days before I went on mat leave - and was working till 3 in th emorning regularly for that - I really wished I'd thought it through more as was shattered and super stressed. I rather suspect your job may not be such insane hours/clients though. I still ended up being off till baby was 7 months old as took a month unpaid parental leave at the end (which did with DS2 too). I have a 5 week paid sabbatical accrued to take this time round - am umming and ahhing whether to tag it on to mat leave or take it over the next summer holidays so I can have all of summer 2014 off with my 3 kids...

Sunday -such a shame about the leak under the shower! Will all be worth it when you get to use your lovely new bathroom without issues though. And dont worry about the baby - they grow in fits and starts so while he may be up on all the percentiles now, that's not to say he'll be right up there at birth.

dinkystinky Tue 26-Feb-13 09:00:12

Ps Plus side of looking like I'm about to drop at this stage is I have nice people offering me seats on the tube all the time - so at least there is a silver lining to being a human weeble...

Huffpot Tue 26-Feb-13 09:01:07

Hi all.
Had my doc appointment yesterday at 18+1 (was later having 16 week one cause of consultant appointments).
I've been feeling movements for 2 or 3 weeks now but none for the last few days so doc tried to find the heart beat but after 20 mins trying wasnt having any luck actually hearing it although the machine was digitally showing it. She asked me to come back in the afternoon to try again but the same problem so am waiting for the hospital to call me today to go up and see if they can pick it up on their machines so fingers crossed!

dinkystinky Tue 26-Feb-13 09:06:51

Huffpot - am keeping everything crossed for you and the baby. Its a good sign that you are feeling movements and the machine is finding the heartbeat - even if its not showing it out loud. It may be something as simple as a fault with the machine or a pesky baby playing hide and seek. Hope the hospital call you soon and can put your mind at rest soon.

Abzs Tue 26-Feb-13 09:34:15

Off to get scanned today. Despite this being my 6th scan, and having a ream of pics showing a healthy wriggly small person with the standard number of appendages I still have a little niggle of worry. That "what if something didn't show up before" or "what if I broke it" feeling.

Have converted my mountain bike to a hybrid with road tyres and flat pedals, so will be braving the frosty temperatures to cycle there. Must try to exercise somehow, as I have failed with swimming due to all standard pools here feeling a similar temperature to the North Sea.

cheekbyjowl Tue 26-Feb-13 10:33:04

Dinky do you work in a law firm/city. 3am sounds hideous. No my work is not as stressful at all, nor do I have children which is why I'm hoping to cling on in the workplace for as long as poss before I pop. But j might be naive. Were currently living centrally but looking to move outside the m25 which will mean lots of driving whilst pregnant. It might not be the best plan. I'm hoping in laws can help me out in the first few months.

cheekbyjowl Tue 26-Feb-13 10:38:23

Good on you abz you can be the Mrs motivator of the thread. I did some hill walking this weekend and felt so unfit. I'm totally impressed with the number of people still going to the gym, cycling etc. If I walk up the left side of the escalator rather than standing I feel heroic

Let us know how the scan goes

Twinklestarstwinklestars Tue 26-Feb-13 10:39:52

Huffpot that has happened to me twice, the first time the midwife was getting really stressed after 45 mins of trying so sent me to hospital who also couldn't find it so scanned me and it was laid on its tummy low down.

Then on fri I went in because of bleeding and they couldn't find it again but could hear fetal movements so scanned me again.

Got 20 week scan and midwife tomorrow so if they can't hear it again at least I will have just had a scan!

MrsRoss26 Tue 26-Feb-13 10:57:45

Cheese I have a lot of annual leave to take before ML (4 weeks!) so DH and I are currently thinking that I'll take a chunk of 3 weeks before ML starts, with the rest spread over the weeks before to 'wind down'. So effectively going on ML around 36/37 weeks. That way I have the maximum time off post-birth, hopefully. Though with my family history I completely anticipate the little one arriving early and scuppering all plans!

dinkystinky Tue 26-Feb-13 11:12:14

Cheek - yep, that's me. Am also a corporate lawyer which is where the carzy hours come in.

photographerlady Tue 26-Feb-13 11:40:26

Good luck with the scans today everyone smile

Huffpot Tue 26-Feb-13 13:02:05

I'm sure baby will be fine but now have to wait till tomorrow as I didn't hear from the hospital so rang them and they hadn't got the doctors fax so have booked me in for 2pm tomorrow.

photographerlady Tue 26-Feb-13 13:44:31

Hope things go well for you Huffpot. Keep us all posted.

MightBeMad Tue 26-Feb-13 15:19:40

Really poorly here with a horrid cough, cold and asthma. Have had to relent on my 'no drugs' policy and take some inhalers but needs must and hopefully it won't last long... On the up side, I told the gp I was worried about movement and he listened to the baby with the Doppler. Being naturally cautious, I never get quite the same reassurance from a Doppler as a scan as I know it can be all too easy to confuse the baby's hb with the sound of the placenta, but he was confident that what he was listening to kept jumping around and said baby appeared to be doing aerobics in there despite my not being able to feel it grin

On the downside, my poor, beleaguered pelvic floor is taking a serious onslaught with my 24 hr coughing fits sadblush

19 weeks today.