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May 2013 - celebrating our entry into the 3rd trimester and an early arrival!

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SevenReasonsToSmile Thu 14-Feb-13 20:35:41

Welcome to the new thread, grab a brew.

SevenReasonsToSmile Thu 14-Feb-13 20:41:20

Continuing from the last thread.

Hi rain, feel free to pop yourself on the stats thread

shelly wow nesting already. I could do with it tbh, I've so much to do before LO arrives and zero motivation, it still feels like ages away!

elly glad you've made the 28 week milestone, must be another relief for you. It seems no time since you we're celebrating being 24 weeks.

rachywhite83 Thu 14-Feb-13 20:54:07

Love the title ! Yay for baby Seb !

Ellypoo Thu 14-Feb-13 21:21:53

Thanks for the new thread grin

Thanks yes, very relieved to have got to 28 wks!! Next goal is 32 wks I think, assuming all ok tomorrow!

We just went out for a drink this eve then had a nice glass of wine with dinner, feels like a real treat!! We don't really do valentines either, but did watch the 'don't tell the bride' special which made me cry!!!

Sisi8 Thu 14-Feb-13 21:53:31

Hi, just added to stats but comes as separate post so apologies I have made it look odd! Whoever mentioned sleeping, tiredness, cramps, bleeding gums etc... Seem to have the lot now! Anyway off to North Wales for half term and a bit of a break. Need some sea air.

aberjen Thu 14-Feb-13 22:28:40

Yay, shiny new fred! smile

Thanks all for the info about consultant-led care. Yes Bood this is my first, and I think that's probably making me more control freak-y about the whole thing. I'll be having appointments and scans at 28, 32 and 36 weeks and was told that the 28 and 36 week appointments would replace the ones I would have had with the midwife at the GPs. Sounds like it varies a bit around the country, so I guess I'll just have to see what happens at 28 weeks and go from there - thanks Artigene for the note about requesting to see a midwife when you felt you were missing something. I'll bear that in mind particularly for the 36 week appointment, as I was looking forward to discussing birth plan etc. with a friendly face (not that my consultant is unfriendly, just doctor-y iykwim).

Hi rain. And congrats Elly on 28 weeks smile

26+0 today!

Boodstress Fri 15-Feb-13 07:35:02

29 weeks today.. Woke up to nausea for the first time since wk 17, Ongoing pregnancy conjestion/bunged-upness, concrete like pelvis and an over energetic passenger in my tummy.... Otherwise I feel GREAT hmm

Hope everyone's morning started out brighter!

MooLL Fri 15-Feb-13 07:52:40

bloodstress interesting you say that ... I too have woken up this morning feeling sick again - oh nooo I really hope it doesn't last! I am also totally exhausted again. I've been off for the past 2 days with flu/cold thanks to my 3yr old DD so am hoping it all relates to that and not pregnancy symptoms. Can't believe after 20 odd years of working I only have 6 weeks left ... Bizarre!

GeordieCherry Fri 15-Feb-13 08:05:15

Happy new thread & welcome Seb!

DP has booked the week off next week to decorate

Currently washing all the bedding & clothes we've been given

Think this nesting lark is about to get going!!

Happy Friday everyone, finally!!

WildeRumpus Fri 15-Feb-13 08:14:47

Hey all! Lovely new thread, thanks seven

shelly am nesting too smile am.cleaning my house to move next week and it doesn't bother me at all, can't wait to get into the new one and clean that and start painting... Feel such an urge to make it hygienic for the baby?! And am baking...

Generally exhausted and feeling so full of baby! Am ridiculously huge eek...

Seb sounds amazing 10 smile

Congrats on 28 weeks elly!

I hope the sickness is fleeting ladies sad that sucks for you.

ng1412 Fri 15-Feb-13 08:32:48

Morning all, great new thread!

We have a whole house to paint but need to strip walls first and we did one last weekend and it did me in. Looking after our DD and doing painting is hard to combine but DH is doing another bedroom this weekend then we will start again on stripping the hall,landing and downstairs annex bedroom. I just want it all done!

Bood I feel bloody awful but that is lack of sleep and baby pressing and kicking on my bladder causing me to nip to the loo every two hours in the night. Not funny!

Boodstress Fri 15-Feb-13 09:14:18

Mooll dealing with various children's illnesses here too so maybe it is that and not the start of more nausea, I couldn't hack that with all the other stuff that goes on this trimester. Does anyone else freak out when baby turns at this stage? I was gabbing DH hand last night cause it was so uncomfortable with so much pressure inside as it turns.

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 15-Feb-13 11:12:09

Must be something in the air, I was sick this morning for the first time in a few weeks.

bood I don't like when they turn late on, so uncomfortable and makes me feel sick.

Well the sun is shining here, 2 loads of washing done and it definitely feels like spring is on its way smile

ng1412 Fri 15-Feb-13 12:29:19

Very jealous Seven it is freezing here, foggy and very dull. No sign of Spring here! envy

TerracottaPie Fri 15-Feb-13 12:42:40

Marking my place on the new thread. Will catch up properly after the estate agent has been round grin

Rhienne Fri 15-Feb-13 12:55:02

Checking in to the new thread.

Seems like lots of details have got sorted in the last week or so, and now it's just waiting, and waiting. And waiting. Sigh. Hope these 12 weeks go fast!

LO seems to like working out, lots of hard bits sticking out of my stomach. smile

I don't mind it too much when she turns, but I'm quite tall so I suppose there's a bit more room (?) but my tummy keeps juddering!


scooby26 Fri 15-Feb-13 17:39:58

Wirawoo- I was induced as my waters broke first ( family trait of start of labour) I did get contractions but not as strong as they would like so they insisted on inducement which is when it all went wrong!

MaybeAMayBaby Fri 15-Feb-13 17:46:42

Thanks, Seven. You've been properly looking after our little group; setting up fb, sorting last two thread grin.

Yay to all you that have hit 28 weeks already. I feel so far behind.

I don't think I've ever felt baby turn. In this pregnancy or last? Maybe I'm too fat? But I could never tell which was head or bum etc either. Only once when DD1 was transverse.

Full of cold. Miserable. And our babysitter has cancelled so no valentines meal out. Definitely need half term next week.

Any news, 10?


SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 15-Feb-13 17:57:42

No worries maybe, I'm just an organised person most of the time, I can't stand not being organised. I've never been good at knowing whether its a head or bum poking out either, and I'm sure it won't be because you're too far why you haven't felt them turn. I generally only feel it once per pregnancy, which I when I assume they adopt the final head down position!

Very far behind here, 25+0

Boodstress Fri 15-Feb-13 18:06:14

I'm getting somersaults and shifting organs. I can see all the limbs . I can also rule out pregancy related nausea as I e developed a full on stomach bug with the worst griping pains. All shivery etc. DH just arrived home to put kids to bed and let me lie down. It's so hard being sick with kids. It's going around and seems to be short lived so fingers crossed.

seven yes thanks so much for new thread. I'm getting such a lot from everyone's posts.

Boodstress Fri 15-Feb-13 18:13:45

everyones' posts grrrh

Ellypoo Fri 15-Feb-13 18:42:48

Boo to all the sickness and colds etc that you are all suffering, I hope you all feel better soon x

I can't tell where head/bum is but me wasn't sure either so that's ok! Baby is now head down with its feet over its head - bizarre!! Really didn't look a comfy position but I'm sure it's fine grin. All good today, measurements still on the average line which is fab, and estimated weight is 2lb 13oz!! Also my consultant said that hopefully next appt (in 2wks) they'll be able to book my c-section date so ill know exactly what date we are working towards which is really helpful!

Getting some fab movements now, but yes my worst & most painful nights sleep are when the baby is shifting position. Got crutches now hmm don't help me walk more quickly but they do take a bit of the pain off I suppose.

GTT was ok, results take 48 hrs but they'll call if any problems so I hope I don't hear from them!

Happy Friday everyone - anyone doing anything nice this weekend?

MaybeAMayBaby Fri 15-Feb-13 18:57:18

Oh no at crutches, Elly shock! Is that for the rest of the pregnancy or do they think it'll improve?
The talk of dates for sections is scary! But I'm now tempted to question it and bring up a section over 'normal' on Tuesday.

Getting a little anxious over baby's estimated weight on tues. I really hope she's put on a bit of weight (I've put on 7 lbs in under 3 weeks!) like her mum. I could do without any extra worry and from what I've read the next two weeks seem to be the critical point.

I have 4 weeks plus 3.5 work days left!! Woop whoop! With the amount if marking I packed into car this afternoon in so bloody glad it's the last time for at least a year smile.

Ellypoo Fri 15-Feb-13 19:02:55

They don't think it will improve until the baby arrives, but I have better days when I've been resting so just have to make sure I do plenty of that!!

Yay to a great work countdown!! I've got 5 weeks to go but none are full weeks and working from home a couple of days each week too which helps!

I know - I remember last time consultant wouldn't book the date until about 35 wks so I was happily surprised today, but I guess it's because I'm so anxious, and she doesn't want to deliver too early unless she needs to.

rainand Fri 15-Feb-13 19:17:41

Ellyppo, ng1412, Wirrawoo, SevenReasonsToSmile, aberjen Thanks all for the welcome! smile I'm 26 weeks, due at the end of May. Had my ups and downs, but no sickness atm, so happy smile How are you all doing?

Wirrawoo My natal hypnotherapy book is in the post, going to read that 1st and then get the CD. Trying to get the library to order a copy as I just need the audio off it! grin

rainand Fri 15-Feb-13 19:20:07

This week has been the 1st week where I've started getting dizzy spells and light headedness. Anyone else feeling that way? I suspect I should bring my blood tests forward in case I am anaemic (my blood pressure has always been low, and was very low at last check up).

I'm counting down till maternity to, 4 weeks to go. Yay!!

Did I see there was a Facebook group for the thread what is the name of it so I can join.

Struggling today with the tiredness didn't sleep well last night coz I ate too much valentines food so suffered with indigestion all night. Also my craving for ice is getting silly now currently sat with some ice lollies.


SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 15-Feb-13 20:40:52

inneed I've PM'd you about the Facebook group.

rain I've been experiencing slightly dizzy spells on and off for ages every now and then, my MW has never seemed bothered tbh. My red blood cells are smaller than they should be so can't carry as much iron, I guess like being slightly anaemic so I'm guessing that's the culprit. My blood pressure is no lower than at booking and its not always when I've not eaten so not likely to be blood sugar levels. I've got an appt with the GP in a couple of weeks so I'll be mentioning it then. Get it checked out if you're concerned.

elly sorry to hear about the crutches, though glad it sounds like everything is going really well with your LO. As much as i'd rather not have a CS it must be a lot less daunting that you'll know exactly when your baby will arrive, I hate the randomness that labour could start at any time regardless of where you are or what you're doing. Thankfully my waters broke at 6am with DD so I was still in bed, I think I'd be so embarrassed if it happened out somewhere grin

Remember when Friday nights used to be fun? I'm in bed already about to start knitting!

michmab Fri 15-Feb-13 20:43:17

Hi everyone

Want to introduce myself as have been reading threads for a while now. Am expecting baby mid may 26+ 5. Already have DS who is 2.5. Looking forward to hopefully having a may baby as last time DS was due mid may but arrived mid april, I was in total denial that I was in labour and more upset that he wasn't a may baby, so fingers crossed maybe this time ; )

Hello Michmab & InNeedofSomeSleep!

Cripes, I've got 10 weeks to go until I start my mat leave. Can't believe some of you are starting so soon (lucky bitches grin).

Bunnychan Fri 15-Feb-13 21:52:37

Haha! mamma I've still got 12 weeks to go. :-s Got Easter holiday in there though to break it up x

Wirrawoo Sat 16-Feb-13 07:43:41

rainand can sympathise with the dizzy light-headed stuff, I have been getting that quite a bit in the last few weeks although it seems to have calmed down now (got a few more steaks into my diet and a bit more rest!). It seemed to be just related to low blood pressure, low blood sugar and pushing myself too hard without putting enough fuel in the tank as it were. Lying on my left side at night helped, being propped up sitting and just regulating my diet and rest a bit more. It was v reassuring to be checked out by the GP though so recommend it if you are concerned.

Am up far too early considering I couldn't sleep until 2am last night as LO appears to be practising to be an Olympic cyclist! A nap will definitely be required at some point today. Is this what they call pregnancy insomnia?! The dream genii pillow has been a godsend but unfortunately it doesn't cure the cat deciding to play crazy fun times with fav jingly ball on my duvet at 6am. Now am awake and starving. They say you only need 200 extra calories but I am definitely needing to eat more most days just to keep from knawing my own arm off!
Hey for those people into name researching at the mo, For anyone feeling a bit hippy dippy about it there is a website called kabalarians.com that does a sort of numerology analysis of most names out there for you. I'm not usually into that but the analysis for my own slightly out there name was so massively spot on that now I am feverishly typing in all our baby name options blush
Have ordered the cot from the mothercare website and am looking for good front opening nighties for the hospital bag/initial time at home. So am I likely to throw out whatever it is I give birth in or are they keepable?

Ellypoo Sat 16-Feb-13 08:01:03

Welcome newbies grin

Morning Wirra, typically i woke up properly when DH went to work this morning - any other morning when i have to be up i can sleep right through!! you will poss not have anything on by the time you actually give birth, or maybe a hospital gown so don't worry too much about that. I would buy some cheap black knickers and poss darker nighties for after - when you are in bed you could always 'hitch' them up around your waist to avoid ruining them. I lived in mine for a few weeks after last time and def didn't chuck them.

Ellypoo Sat 16-Feb-13 08:03:58

Oh and bollocks to the 'only needing an extra 200 calories/day' - I'm constantly starving and if I don't eat, I get mega heartburn so I have to eat! Plenty of time to worry about it after, and hopefully we'll have some half decent weather this summer so we'll be able to go out for lots of walks, fx gringringrin

ng1412 Sat 16-Feb-13 08:38:45

Agree with you Elly I bought loads of black knickers one size bigger than normal and three cheap, cotton night dresses which I took to hospital and they are fine and definitely will be used again this time round.

Hi ladies just marking my place on new thread. Will read through properly later.

Just noticed some of you are due to start maternity leave soon. At what week are you all starting it?

I was going to start leave at week 36 but now I'm thinking I may leave at week 33 25th March as its the Easter holidays.Ill probably still get maternity pay to kick in at week 36 though. It's just that it seems pointless using childcare for Easter when I could be at home fitting in activities for the last time with just my older two.

10storeylovesong Sat 16-Feb-13 09:23:23

wirra I spent a fortune on nursing nighties, and as soon as it looked like labour was on its way the hospital whipped me into a hospital gown. I found I wasn't comfy wandering around the ward in my nighties so ended up in my comfy pjs.

And yeah, lots of big black knickers are a must!

I was meant to finish good Friday but gonna finish the week before now coz I'm a childminder and the parents have time off work so it worked out better for me. Running around after 1 toddler is hard work the other kids wear me out. I am planning to go back at beginning of September tho so starting earlier will be nice. Hoping the weather starts to cheer up so I can get out and about with my dd.

beaver33 Sat 16-Feb-13 13:32:42

Hey y'all, what a lovely new thread.

Welcome rain and michmab!

On labour, I am blissfully unconcerned. I think that's called "denial" but my view at the moment is that it's probably not something I'll be able to control so I'm happy to just go with the flow. That said, I'm sure I'll feel very differently on the day but for now...it's all flowers and butterflies, la la la laaah...

Guess what? Got the bank to refund the cash. Wrote to complaints dept and copied it to their press office (I'm a journalist) and alleged they didn't care if their pregnant customers were robbed at cashpoints. Cue a £200 refund and two very apologetic phone calls. Happy beaver.

So, I'm at work today and my lovely colleague, who sits opposite me, has come in with a sore throat. This would not necessarily worry me but her stepson has been in hospital with scarlet fever caused by strep A infection. I can find lots online about pregnancy and strep B, but less on what it means if I get a strep A infection. Any ideas, anyone? Should I be worried? The last two mornings I've woken up with a sore throat so I may already be infected with whatever it is....

House problems still stressing me out. I will be homeless in less than two weeks if the sale is not sorted out. This is making me VERY tetchy although DH seems unconcerned. Goddammit, I want to NEST. NOW.

Also, my NCT class has just been cancelled after 'lack of interest'. Anyone else had this?? So annoyed as it was for my new area and I was hoping it would introduce me to other local mums. There's another NCT class relatively close, but the times are just not compatible with my job - I know I can take time off for them, but they literally fall at the very busiest part of my week so I can't see the office agreeing.


MaybeAMayBaby Sat 16-Feb-13 14:47:46

Brilliant news, Beaver. I never understood them not doing so in the first place. Time to go shopping!

Was it Bood who asked about when starting ML? I'll be 35 weeks (delivery at 38 weeks max). But I actually break up for 2 weeks Easter hols before that, so really more like 33!

Welcome new ladies!

Had new boiler fitted today. I can't believe the difference in the radiator temperature! They are at least twice as hot. All good as the house has always felt cold. Gas company owe us £400, plus with the savings with a new boiler, I'm hoping our payments will drop significantly in time for being off work.

Can we use Vicks? I am so bunged up and sinuses hurt. I'm trying to refrain from drugs but I'm feeling like a wimp.

I was another one that preferred pJs. I had one nightie because my DM insisted. Are PJs a no no with a C section?

Boodstress Sat 16-Feb-13 15:00:42

Hi maybe I think that was Beaut re maternity leave.

Re PJs and sections, I've had a couple of CSs and you are very sore across your scar plus you will have a catheter in to start with so a discreet nightie (you won't wear pants to start with) is pretty essential. When I changed to PJs I had over the bump ones so it doesn't touch your scar.

Boodstress Sat 16-Feb-13 15:02:07

Oh and maybe my sinuses are terrible, had this preg congestion before. Saline spray is all they will give me in the chemist.

berri Sat 16-Feb-13 15:39:31

Thanks seven for the new thread!

Hi rainand, inneed and michmab welcome! smile

elly how annoying about your crutches - although if they help take some of the pressure off they must be a good thing.

Beaver I'm SO pleased about your refund! About bloody time. V annoying about your NCT classes, although maybe have a look into stuff you can join once the baby is here - in my old SW london area there were loads of drop in new-baby groups/baby massage/play cafes/bumps and babies etc which you can join - I met loads of people that way. Hope your house stuff gets sorted asap!

How's everyone getting on who is doing the hypno stuff? I've got 2 classes left...wish I had some more at the moment but guess I'll get more confident in it as time goes on!

My sinuses are terrible too but I'm totally converted to those breath-right strips, they make an amazing difference at night, so worth a try.

Funny some of you are experiencing sickness again - me too. Have gone back to making sure I eat first thing, like it was at the start! Also if I force myself to eat the full-fat natural yoghurt, I've noticed that I don't really get heartburn all day....big discovery!! I never really feel like eating it but if it gets rid of nausea and heartburn in one, then I will!

Wirra I'll be homesick with you grin. Seasalt jealous of you being at home in time for the baby's arrival envy Hope you are having a good time in Oz!

Snowy here in Chicago still! Hoping it'll be lovely and warm by May smile

SevenReasonsToSmile Sat 16-Feb-13 15:53:14

Hi mich. It's perfectly normal to have a preterm birth followed by a full-term one, however I'd advise you don't set your hopes too high on a May baby. I've had two earlies, at 35+5 and 35+6, it seems that's when my body decides its had enough of being pregnant. I've no expectations of going beyond 36 weeks, if I do it's a bonus. Did your DS need to go to SCBU?

10 thanks for posting more pics on the fb group. Sounds like he's doing really well, can't believe he's a week old already!

beaut I think it's a really lovely idea starting ML a little earlier and doing activities with your older two. I think we'll try to fit in a trip to the zoo after Easter before the next one comes, just easier to do these things without a newborn as well!

beaver so glad you got your money back. Sorry to hear about the NCT classes. Find out if your new area has a sure start centre, they often have plenty of groups you can go to once baby is here and are a good place to meet other new mums. No idea about Strep A, if you're concerned I'd suggest calling MW first thing on Monday morning.

maybe glad it's warmer now. Being ill in pregnancy sucks, I'm not sure about vicks tbh. I have some PJ bottoms from Asda that are really soft and stretchy and have a really wide non-elasticised waistband. I'd have thought some like that perhaps in a bigger size would be ok after a CSection.

I've never been made to wear a hospital gown, I've always taken off my bottoms and birthed in what I was wearing. You'll have a bath or shower after the birth anyway so just keep PJs in the top of your hospital bag and put them on then before you get moved onto the ward, if you're not lucky enough to get a 4 hour discharge that is!

Those suffering PGP is there anything that helps? I know nothing, never suffered with either of my other two, but round the back of my hips is agony today. Picking up 15 month DD certainly isn't helping matters either.

Rhienne Sat 16-Feb-13 16:23:01

Hi all.

Can someone please PM me about the FB group?

I've booked to start mat leave 4 weeks before LO is due. DS was 40+3 or so, so there's no reason to think this one will be really early. Last time I worked to 38 weeks, and the last couple of weeks were very tiring. This time I'm less motivated in my role too, so this feels right. Can't wait for it to come, actually.

I gave birth in a hospital gown, and I wore nighties after, but that's cos none of my PJs fitted. I'm a PJs person, and got lovely mamma PJs for xmas, so I'll be wearing them this time, unless something unexpected happens. Then I lived in comfy pants (joggers, yoga pants, whatever you call them) for ages anyway.

Managed to go to the craft fair today, and take DS to give DH some own time. Exhausted now, but feels good to have managed something besides sitting on the couch in my weekend!

Beaver, I thought work had to give you time off for antenatal care. Could you, through careful description, present the NCT course as if it were antenatal care?

Well done for getting your cash back from the bank.

Re: birthing attire - I laboured in a maternity tankini top and a big T-shirt. Don't have anything too complex to get in and out of. Also bear in mind that you may be on a drip which can make changing a bit of a faff. Also remember that hospital gowns don't do up at the back. They might encourage you to go for a walk to speed things along so remember to cover your bum up (which may be made more difficult if you have a drip in and can't put your dressing gown on).

Rhienne Sat 16-Feb-13 16:26:27

Oh - and huge sympathy for those with bad sinuses! Mine were awful with the bad cold I had in January, mfelt like I had major toothache all across my upper jawline.. I lived on paracetamol and saline nasal spray. I did use Vicks one night when they were really bad, but it's not really recommended, and the smell made me nauseous. My doctor prescribed me with a steroid nasal spray - said the enclosed paperwork said it was not recommended during pregnancy but newer research says it's ok. It's no quick fix, but they got better over the days I was taking it, so maybe it helped.

ng1412 Sat 16-Feb-13 17:12:55

Been doing some serious nesting, washed all sheets, blankets etc for Moses basket and crib, washed muslins and baby clothes and put them all in neat piles in our dressing room wardrobe.

Then made a lovely pasta and pancetta bake thing which is my favourite dish and very yummy.

And all this while looking after a lively DD, who thank goodness had a nice long nap this morning and let mummy get on with things.

DH has been painting a bedroom all day and is half way through (it is a big room) so he is nesting by proxy smile

shelly81 Sat 16-Feb-13 18:15:54

I've been out in the garden today painting walls & gates DP keeps laughing at me hehe I've also bathed the dog and disinfected all the drains etc ouside think my next plan is to paint my kitchen but for now I'm going to collapse on the couch .....forgot how tiring it is being pg ha xxx

Artigene Sat 16-Feb-13 18:19:40

I have no idea what I gave birth in either time! How odd, it's just wiped from my memory. As II had an epidural tube in my back I assume I was in a hospital gown.

I have terrible restless legs. The evenings. Do others? Any tips on getting it to go away? We're going out tonight and I can't be twitching and stretching my legs all night.

betsyb75 Sat 16-Feb-13 19:24:25


Thank you for the new thread seven I love it that you are so organised!

Beaver my NCT classes were also cancelled this week due to lack of interest- DP and I are pretty gutted, they also offered us classes elsewhere about 20 mins drive away, but we can't do all of the the dates-I just can't take the time off work,- you and I do the same job too Beaver!

Also saw midwife yesterday and my GTT tests results have come back with high sugar levels so being sent to Diabetic nurse. She said it looks like we are going to have a good sized baby...I keep having visions of giving birth to a giant sumo baby...bit scared.

Iron levels also quite low, which would explain why I felt so rubbish recently, with dad being ill, everything has felt a bit too much.

Better go and start my no sugar low Gi no chocolate or anything sweet diet! grin
Have lovely weekends


berri Sat 16-Feb-13 19:30:59

How is your Dad doing betsy?

betsyb75 Sat 16-Feb-13 19:48:42

Hi berri

He had his biopsies on Tuesday, so waiting for results to come back, hopefully this Tuesday.
It's horrible waiting, we just all want to know what we are dealing with as soon as possible.
Thank you for asking x

mwncigirl Sat 16-Feb-13 23:37:42

Hey everyone, not been on for ages. I think I'm in denial as this pg seems to be going so fast. I don't feel prepared at all and am starting to panic a bit.

I'm trying to work out how we will manage on the day/night with DS (age 3), planning a home birth but not sure what we'll do if I have to go to hosp. No family around to help, and don't feel I can ask friends to help as most of them have their own little ones. Hmmm

Eveyone sounds like they're doing pretty good considering!

Is anyone suffering from varicose veins? I freaked out a bit this evening and found a massive bulging vein in my groin. Not had one before. Should I be concerned? Can't really see down there now so not noticed it. I had felt a sort of pulling especially in the mornings.

Soz for long post. Hope you all have a good nights sleep smile

Boodstress Sun 17-Feb-13 07:01:49

Mwnc is there any family that could come and stay (or stay in a guest house nearby as I always do to avoid anyone driving anyone mad when a new baby arrives)? even with a home birth you will probably need extra support but especially if you have to go to hospital. Is there a childminder that you could use in combination with a friend. I have two but would always help someone (and want to ) in that situation.

my friend had terrible varicose veins with pregnancy and she discovered a bad one on her groin at 7 months and was really worried about giving birth (pushing) but she had her baby 3rd Dec and it was all fine and all back to normal now.

I've hit 29 weeks and am now starting to freak out a bit but in my more rational moments (few and far between) I know it will ok, busy but ok. grin

mwncigirl Sun 17-Feb-13 09:28:32

Boos, I'm not close to my family and my closest friends are singe mums, so that wouldn't work either. We'll have to come up with another plan I think.

Thanks for reassurance re veins, it's really quite sore this morning. I guess I just feel a bit grumpy hmm

Artigene Sun 17-Feb-13 10:19:40

Mwnc - I'm sure your friends would want to help. If your DH dropped DS at a friend's house they could just watch him alongside their own. Or could you find a local babysitter you could have on call? Maybe a trainee from a local child care course?

ng1412 Sun 17-Feb-13 17:59:58

Well we visited the hospital to register and it seems likely I will be having a c-section at 38 weeks given my age and my concerns following my previous birth experience. Makes it easier to plan for someone to look after our DD while I am in hospital and avoids us having to make a call to them in French, something I wasn't looking forward to!

beaver33 Mon 18-Feb-13 11:51:30

Hey betsy it's frustrating, isn't it? I wonder - were we planning on taking the same class?? You're not in the wilds of south London, are you?

I think will just take the class further away and hope for the best. How interesting we do the same job. I wonder if we've ever crossed paths...depends which field you're in, I suppose!

Mamma I think these do count as antenatal care and should in theory mean I could take time off. But the class is quite literally at the most inconvenient point of the week for my job, and the idea I'd be out of contact for several hours at that time would be unthinkable.

28 weeks today (hooray). Off to midwife for bloods later and generally packing up my house in case we have to move soon....this not knowing bit is making me a bit crazy....

TerracottaPie Mon 18-Feb-13 12:02:45

Morning all.

Just been catching up.

elly boo to crutches. Sorry things have got that bad you've needed them sad My PGP ain't that great either right now. GP signed me off for 2 weeks last week (and that was on top of me already self certifying for a week). And then said that because of my job it may be that I'll be off now until maternity leave starts. I'm hoping that won't happen! Pain has lessened slightly with not being at work. And with the wonderful physiotherapist I'm seeing. But the walk on the school run is not fun. I use the pushchair as make do crutches I think!

Going back to the what did you where during labour chat. I had forceps in theatre for DC1 so it was a backless hospital gown. And then just a nightie for DC2. And I still had it for DC3 so I wore it again. And I plan on wearing it again for this one grin.

Betsy were you expecting that GTT result at all? Hope you don't have to wait long to see the Diabetic Nurse. And don't worry too much about sumo-baby! There's a few of us on here that have had big babies (my last was 11lb) and it doesn't have to mean a bad experience at all. Hope tomorrow isn't too stressful for you with your Dad x

mwnc poor you and that varicose vein sad I'm trying to remember any things that can help try and relieve them but I'm drawing a blank, sorry! <helpful>

ng sounds like an ELCS is a good plan for you! I'm trying to imagine an in-labour conversation over the phone in a different language! I'm sure it would have been ok though - MWs must be used to trying to decipher sentences through screams so a language barrier would be no probs grin


TerracottaPie Mon 18-Feb-13 12:05:56

I knew something in my what did I wear during labour typing wasn't right! just read it back

where wear

rachywhite83 Mon 18-Feb-13 13:35:05

Survived my sisters wedding on Saturday. Only problem was terrible cramp in my feet as I walked down the aisle ! Shoes came off for the rest of the day as every time my feet went anywhere near my shoes the cramp would start again hmm Ended up wearing slippers to the reception !!!

So happy because I passed my theory test this morning.

Just off to get my GTT results. Really hope everything is ok x

LittleSpade Mon 18-Feb-13 13:40:15

Had my 28 week mw appointment this morning - all fine smile

Ordered our pushchair on line at the weekend so excitedly waiting for that to arrive.

Wirrawoo Mon 18-Feb-13 13:55:32

Anyone going to the baby show at the ExCel this coming weekend? We're going to get the car seat, the pram and a few other things (electric breast pump, a brave new world of boob functions for me!). At the other one I went to there were such massive discounts on stuff (some of the prams were about £100 off and incuded free car seats), but we were too early on to buy anything, so this time am going armed with a list.

Hey beaver that really sucks about your NCT class being cancelled sad How about one in East Dulwich or Herne Hill or something? I would imagine they are always well attended!

Thanks for the advice re what people end up wearing in labour. It's good to find out from people that have been there and done it... Websites and baby books are sometimes I think trying to say we 'must' have something when we don't really.

lollypopsicle Mon 18-Feb-13 14:12:03

mwnc just offering vein sympathy. I have one that starts in my groin and continues down my left leg. I got it last time too so I was expecting it back! it did go after DS was born so really hoping it will again. Didn't cause me problems in labour. my midwife was not concerned about it either. whenever I mentioned it I was told to wear support tights and elevate my leg whenever I could- easier said than done with PGP. You can get maternity support tights from boots. My mum recommended putting them on in bed while still lying flat before the blood flows into your legs more and causes it to bulge. That way you get a chance of a normal looking leg for longer!

sorry you're on crutches elly I've found physio really helpful and has rewound the clock a few weeks. still painful but more localised and at least my limp is not so bad! doesn't sound great for you either terra how do you cope with your other kids? I'm finding 2 yr old DS a real handful sad


Boodstress Mon 18-Feb-13 16:10:02

My pelvis (mine was always called pubis symphysis dysfunction but assuming same as PGP) is now full on as I think my transverse baby has gone head first. A couple of things that help if you aren't already - going up the stairs one at a time, sitting with feet not elevated higher or lower than your pelvis.. Doesn't help if you are already on crutches - gosh I don't know how you deal with that. I have a tendency to have a big late baby so wonder if there's a correlation? I have to swap rooms around and that is freaking me out - I don't know how anyone moves actual house. 30 weeks on Friday - starting to wish away the pregnancy which is not good. Sorry for extended moans. Hope everyone ok & half term not driving anyone to (else) to tears !

Bunnychan Mon 18-Feb-13 17:58:52

Omg! I need to tell someone! My best mate has just POAS and it's positive! I'm so pleased for her but it's mega early days! Feel really guilty- today we went shopping and she brought me a Moses basket. She had a docs appoint this afternoon and that prompted her test when she got home. Exciting :-) x

Bunny smile

Will she start a November 2013 thread?

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 18-Feb-13 18:34:45

Hey ladies.

Betsy as a type 1 diabetic, my advice to you is to cut down on carbs. Most of the nhs (luckily not my clinic) have been racing on for over 20 years about eating lots of whole meal carbs. While they are better than 'white' your body still converts all carbs to glucose. As in on insulin, most of the time I can manage carbs, but I know in your position it's the only thing that will have an impact! Don't have to cut it out completely. Buy yourself a cheap blood sugar kit from boots (not sure whether you'll be allowed strips for it on nhs-ridiculous. If not, check out the cheapest ones on eBay before you buy the machine). Test first thing in morning, (aiming for between 3.5-7) and an hour or two after breakfast (no higher than about 8). Same for every meal.
And don't panic about a large baby. Did she base that on YOUR baby's scan measurements? Or was he making an assumption? My Dd was 6lbs 3oz and this one is so far on track to be similar.
Good luck. Research the diabetic/pregnancy sites.

Rhienne? Was it you with the horrendous cold? I've been in bed all weekend. My face was swollen this noting and it hurt to open and close my eyes. And the teeth!! Wow! Even my DH was sympathetic (he struggles) I looked shocking. Honestly felt I my pop. Luckily most of it has subsided this afternoon. Not impressed as I'm on half term.

During labour I wore ridiculous tight PJs. As I was induced, I knew 'when' so the day before I popped down to Next to get some big comfy pjs. I have some huge ones that I'd worn all pregnancy but where full of holes, so I thought 'same size-all fine'.
DH went home on night of induction and I got changed into 'comfy' nightware. I struggled to pull up the legs! And the top was ok-but not long enough to go over bump. No other clothes (DH was bringing more stuff in next day). By now I had to suck it up. I was contracting very regularly and painfully (MW insisted I wasnt hmm).
Next day I gave birth in top. But as soon as I did, MW said 'let's gets this ridiculous top off' blush. So embarrassed.

mwm I looked after a friend's DS when she went into labour. They dropped him round on way to hospital. She called me middle of night. I didn't mind at all, and was honoured to be asked. Also had DD at time. Kids were both same age and loved waking up in same house the next day.

milkandribena Mon 18-Feb-13 21:36:32

Just marking my place - life is being mad at the mo. So I'll catch up on you all sometime this week

GeordieCherry Mon 18-Feb-13 21:54:57

Bikini wax back to normal ouchy-ness..!

Congrats for good scans & results ladies

We did some buggy research yesterday, think we're decided on Mamas & Papas Mylo. We ~love~ the purple one but it's the full whack everywhere we look & the second fave colour (sand) is half price at Boots. We could do a lot with £300...

Rhienne Mon 18-Feb-13 22:05:48

MaybeaMay: yes, that was me. You have my full sympathy! Had a horrible cough and cold that went to my sinuses, felt like awful toothache for days. Be assured, it has eased now! There is light at the end of the tunnel, even if it takes extra long t waddle to it at the moment. All I have left are the sore rib muscles from too much coughing.

I used loads of saline nasal spray and paracetamol. And a steroid nasal spray prescribed by the doctor. Still took far longer than I wanted to go away... But did eventually.

beaver33 Tue 19-Feb-13 11:44:45

Urgh Maybe and Rhienne, I've joined the sick bus too. Thought I had a cold over the last few days because I've felt a bit groggy in the mornings. But it's definitely here now. In the office and feeling miserable and very sorry for myself, sipping on lemon and ginger tea with some honey added and dreaming of lempsip. Boo.

Was on the phone to my mum yesterday - she's 500 miles away in Scotland - and I was having a bit of a moan (house buying worries, work being a nightmare, feeling shattered, cold coming on, generally feeling a bit anxious) and she got all exasperated and said, 'So, has anything GOOD happened to you recently?'. If you can't have a moan to your mum, who can you have a moan to? and especially if your time is split between being in the office and lying on the sofa, there's not really that much more to say....


Wirrawoo Tue 19-Feb-13 12:40:36

Hey beaver you can have a moan here whenever. Sorry you're feeling rubbish. Honey and lemon is comforting at least. thanks

Sorry guys but do you mind if I have a little moan? Am sitting here crying into my cup of tea having just got back from the midwife app and am feeling really stupid for doing it but I'm so sick of having moderately crap appointments where they don't tell me anything, don't show any sort of caring manner... I nearly passed out in the appointment today because I was on my back for too long and although the student midwife there was really nice and gave me water until that horrible shaky feeling went away, the official midwife was so rubbish. She didn't show any kind of concern, only told me any information in response to my questions that I went armed with. Why had none of them even mentioned a whooping cough jab or needing to book GP appointments?! I mean seriously it's not that hard to do your job properly surely? Am realising how vulnerable being pregnant makes you feel. I'm generally a dream patient who never makes a fuss and even I am coming out of these appointments feeling like bursting into tears. surely that isn't how we should be being made to feel? The student midwife and the official one measured the bump and seemed to be having a discussion about whether it was right or not then telling me it seemed very increased from 3 weeks ago but still just about normal so they won't refer me. Why tell me that? Tell me it's fine, or not fine, but don't leave me wondering WTF is going on? It didn't feel like they were measuring to the right place anyway. Also, I don't mind having students there but every appointment has almost entirely been taken by the student. This is my first baby, I want to help them learn but could they not share it out a bit so I feel like I have the expert there for at least some of the time? I just don't feel 'cared for' at all, and perhaps naively I thought that was part of the job of midwives. Have just come home freaking out about what is going to happen if we go to the hospital and there's these sort of vaguely rubbish uncaring people who are just going to freak me out and only half do their job. Never thought I was a high maintenance person and don't like feeling like I am just because I want a basic level of bedside manner. All you really want in these appointments is for them to do the things they have to do, but also to support you and tell you that you're doing ok... That you are doing all that you should to help this little person inside of you survive and make it into the world. I've never felt this vulnerable.
Also fascinating that I have no control over bursting into tears when I feel rubbish at the moment. My partner had to leave straight after to get the train to Oxford but has just called me to check I was ok and been awesome on the phone so feeling a little more human again. Hate feeling this way after appointments. I realise they may have done this 599 times before but I haven't, this is my first, and as relaxed as I may be 90% of the time and as much as you know that women have done this for millennia etc etc etc, it's still a very vulnerable time and you need some support from the professionals in charge of your care. sad
Oh and this midwife also told me a completely different story about what I'm supposed to do about when to start the antibiotics in labour so now I don't know which one is right and that really annoys me!

ng1412 Tue 19-Feb-13 12:56:29

Wirra sorry to hear about your experience. I started off in one health care trust when I was pregnant with my DD, and transferred to another, not far away at about 20 weeks. The difference in treatment was amazing, the first midwife was more worried about the student learning than actually communicating to me and she assumed I knew what to do next each time, it was so painful as I thought I was a reasonably intelligent person but she made me feel I've a thicko! Also the treatment room was freezing and unwelcoming and I couldn't wait to leave each time.

The first time I went the student started looking for the heartbeat in completely the wrong place, took about ten mins before the midwife took over and found it immediately then announced that I had a high pubic bone, like it was something I could control and do something about. I almost apologised!

Anyway the trust I moved to was a completely different experience. My midwife was relatively young and absolutely fantastic. She helped me with every little concern and never dismissed me and took time to explain everything

It is very frustrating but you are not on your own. Thank goodness you have a great partner who can support you xx.

Is she your regular midwife? I am wondering whether you could ask to see an alternative?

Ellypoo Tue 19-Feb-13 13:16:00

Oh wirra, what a nightmare appointment. It is really not fair that they have left you feeling this way. Is there a different MW you could ask to see next time? It's not being high maintenance at all - you should expect & get a certain level of care and support from these professionals, it sounds really wrong the way that they have been treating you.

Do you have group B strep? Is that why the ABs in labour? Sorry if you've mentioned it before - my brain has totally stopped working now!

The sun is shining here today - it's lovely!!!


aberjen Tue 19-Feb-13 13:52:31

Oh wirra sad Agree you should definitely come out feeling reassured not ready to cry, especially when it's your first and everything is new. And they should definitely have told what appointments you need to have, with who, and when - do they expect you to be psychic?!

It does seem to vary so much between trusts and between who you see - I've seen a different midwife every time because the midwife I should see has been signed off long-term and while I'm lucky that they've all been great, they definitely have very different approaches!

Agere with ng - could you request to see someone different?

Hope you feel better soon thanks

In other news, I think little one had hiccups at 6 am this morning, and then started doing the cancan! Very entertaining, but did make the final pre-alarm doze a bit challenging...

Also: www.digitalspy.co.uk/odd/news/a459929/two-sets-of-identical-twins-born-from-same-mother.html shock

10storeylovesong Tue 19-Feb-13 14:38:17

wirra sorry to hear about your horrible midwife appointment. I was disappointed with the 2 appointments I managed to make it to - but found that the hospital midwives couldn't have been more different and were superb every time I went in and really supported me all the way through. They even keep nipping in to see Seb to check how he's getting on every now and again.

Hopefully you'll have a better experience when you get to hospital.

Picklep Tue 19-Feb-13 16:24:54

hello pregnant ladies!! I have been AWOL for some time, all sorts been going on, including moving house. All well here, my baby boy is getting stronger by the day. Nesting is going on big time here! I feel HUUUUGE. Restless legs have begun which is VERY annoying.

WHO is baby Seb's mummy? That was early! Welcome baby Seb!! SOOOOO exciting. I have a lot to catch up on, will do that now.

Nice to be back with you ladies! Hope you and babies are all well!

Picklep Tue 19-Feb-13 16:27:38

oh and I am 28 weeks.....gulp.

Picklep Tue 19-Feb-13 16:33:04

10lovestory you are Seb's mummy!!! Congratulations!!! I hope you and your baby boy are well? x

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 19-Feb-13 17:34:18

wirra sorry to hear about your rubbish appointment. You're not over-reacting at all, it's their job to put your mind at rest not worry you further!

Is anyone else really uncomfortable already? Baby is really low down, yesterday I could actually feel immense pressure from her pushing down on my cervix.

I had a terrible pregnancy brain moment. I ordered a present for DHs birthday on Thursday. It should have been delivered yesterday and was still showing not yet dispatched today so I emailed asking why it wasn't here. The email I received back said it hadn't been dispatched because my selected delivery date is 3 weeks away, I'd selected Monday 18th march blush

Boodstress Tue 19-Feb-13 18:06:58

Hi Seven I'm exactly the same and its not like I go early, But the baby has gone from transverse to head down and I'm feeling loads of pressure. pelvis is also shot and generally I feel about 36 weeks. I have been having baby brain too and bursts of cleaning weird nooks and crannies in case they baby is disgusted with my cleaning regime when it arrives hmm

roastpotatoes Tue 19-Feb-13 18:19:20

I'm another one with crazy downward pressure - feels like something is already coming out! Don't really like the idea of having this feeling for another 10 weeks!

So sorry that things didn't go well with the MW wirra - I totally agree with the others that it's not unreasonable to expect them to give you the basic information you need and some reassurance.

We're still going with our decorating frenzy, but onto the last room now and then we can get the carpets done - yay!

My bridesmaid duties went well at the weekend but I was completely exhausted the day afterwards. Could barely speak! That is definitely my last big weekend and long trip away before the baby comes - time to start taking it easy I think...

I'm so impatient - 29.3 weeks today, willing the next few weeks to go quickly so that we can finally meet the baby!

Wirra I would complain or go as far as to demand you change midwife.Im sorry but you should feel important and well cared for in pregnancy.Gosh it's a major thing for our bodies to go through.

I will be going to my midwife appointment next Wednesday with a list.I hope she has given herself plenty of time for my appointment as I won't be leaving until Ive asked all my questions.Its only fair seen as I haven't seen her since 16 weeks.I know its my third but I have a 7 year age gap.

Rachy Congratulations on passing your theory.I did mine a couple of weeks ago too.When are you putting in for your test.I really want to pass before I have the baby.

Sorry to hear about all those with colds.I can't breathe at all well at night so Ive been applying Vicks.

I too feel uncomfortable.Not sure how baby is lying I was never good at being able to tell.But I have immense pressure and I get serious bump ache when I walk.The walk to work gets harder each day.Everyone has commented on my really low bump.I have a big gap between boobs and bump then it looks like I have a bowling ball stuffed down my trousers smile

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 19-Feb-13 18:55:41

wirra my MW is a bit crap too. It's the same one as last time and she til me recently that she's retiring soon. I thought she was better this time, but it's been short lived (I think she was on a high from having her first grandchild). I actually prefer it when the student is there as she's on her best behaviour. I'm lucky to see people at the hospital fortnightly to ask questions to. As she's your only 'port of call' I too think you should approach maybe your GP about your concerns?

Had another growth scan today. Baby still on 10th percentile. But I did find out it seems to only be the head circ. DD1 when born had a head measurement in 9th percebtile but it wasn't picked up on scans. I rememeber they were concerned at the time and I had to keep seeing the HV weekly for a while because of it. She's as bright as a button so in hoping it's a genetic thing. she's thumping away atm.
10 I love it when you post blush. I know you must have your hands full.

My cold seems slightly better. But there was talk of keeping me in at the hospital as I had a rogue blood reading caused by the virus. Luckily it was fine in retesting.

27+1 weeks seem to be going slow at the moment...

My midwife was rubbish with my first actually. luckily though I had nct classes and other sources of info in that area at the time.

I've been told no classes here as the midwifes are too stretched.Great I was hoping to make some mum friends in this village as I don't know many people hmm

beaver33 Tue 19-Feb-13 19:27:03

Oh Wirra that sounds rubbish. I second everything else that far wiser people than me have said. Like Beaut points out, you should try to complain, or at the very least make it clear you're unhappy. That's never easy, especially when it's a general feeling of being let down, rather than specific poor care. But it's still unacceptable. I'm having my first too, and I can't fault the community midwives I see. I come away feeling as if they're excited about my baby too. That's how it should be, and you shouldn't feel as if you're expecting too much by wanting that.

Are they community midwives, and do you see them at your GP practice? If so you could have a word with the practice manager.

Take care xx

DP just called and said he can't make the 4d scan I had booked for Saturday hmm as he has to work.I hope they have for the Saturday after now as apparently the bigger you get the less clear the pics as obviously baby takes up room

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 19-Feb-13 20:29:46

I had to give 48hours notice, Beaut. How many weeks are you? In the hospital today, it said 4D scans best between 24-32 weeks. You can't be 32 weeks! shock!
Mine is the 2nd March (is that the following weekend?). We are having
our kitchen fitted that weekend! Bad timing. Ha, maybe we should swap!

Whoever said about Vicks. I've got it on and it's not shifting anything. Suffocating <feeling melodramatic>.

Maybe Should be ok then.Im 28 weeks on Thursday.So be 29 weeks if I can get in for the following Saturday.

Artigene Tue 19-Feb-13 20:37:15

Wirra - that sounds like a really bad midwife appointment. I think you have had some terrible care as I remember your 12 week scan was also handled very badly. If you feel strong enough I would complain via PALS. One word of comfort is that in my first two pregnancies I found the antenatal midwives to be pretty useless but the labour ward midwives were fab. I think they save the best ones for the really important bit, so try not to worry to much about not feeling supported during the birth. If you are really worried you could consider a doula, I know some trainee doulas are very cheap.

Beaut - that is unfortunate about your DH missing the 4D scan. Is there nothing he can do to slip out of work for an hour?

NG - it must be a relief to have a plan for your CS. Do they keep you in longer in France? I think I heard that they did. In fact my Parisian friend may have had her baby taken away each night so she could sleep. Bliss.

10 - how is Seb doing? if you have time I'd love to hear how its going. I can't believe that you have had an actual baby for over a week.

Pickle - welcome back. I hope the move went well.

Betsy - how is your dad holding up. And did you have the GTT follow-up appointment? As others have said try not to fret about the sumo baby. My second was 10lbs 2oz and all things considered it was an OK birth. Also big babies tend to sleep for longer between feeds (or so I was told). Just don't go investing in newborn size clothes, my DDs never fitted in them even once!

Seven - I was getting immense pressure down below which I never experienced even towards the end of my last pregnancies. However, in the last 48 hours the pressure has gone and the baby feels like it is pushing out of both my sides at the same time so I wonder if he has gone transverse.

Sorry to those suffering from pelvic pain. Is it Elly on crutches? That must be very hard. My pelvis is pretty tender but its actually better when I am up and about. Sitting is the problem.

We had a lovely day pretending to be tourists in town with the DDs. We rarely take advantage of London but today we did the South Bank and the Hayward Gallery and a little petting zoo in one of the parks. Its only February and it cannot have been more than 10 degrees but my DH and DD2 managed to catch the sun and they even look a little burnt shock. Oh, and tonight I booked a week in Italy for us and the baby when he will be three months. It was so weird registering him for the hotel, he has no name or birthdate but I had to put something so I just put "Boy [our surname]". Rather ambitiously it will be his third holiday. We are booked to go camping when he is 5 weeks and we are off for a week in the West Country when he will be two months.

10storeylovesong Tue 19-Feb-13 20:42:23

Urgh, today has been a long hard day. Seb's feeds have increased from 2mls to 13mls every 2 hours in last 3-4 days which is great as it means the feeding tube in his stomach has been removed and he is being given it orally. However, as his stomach is increasing so fast it is pushing up on his lungs and his oxygen levels have been up and down all day and keeps setting his alarms off. We had such a scary moment earlier where he was sick and he panicked and slowed his breathing straight down and had to be given emergency oxygen by a face mask. It only lasted a few minutes but seemed like a lifetime and I was just willing him to breathe again. I completely broke down afterwards - it was the first time I felt truly afraid of losing him as he's done so well up to now. Was horrible leaving the hospital, even though he was settled and fast asleep as we left.

Rhienne Tue 19-Feb-13 20:57:30

Hi 10. What a scary day! Here's a cyber hand to hold if it helps! Hope Seb's lungs catch up to his tummy soon.

Maybe I really hope the cold eases soon. I'm totally paranoid anytime anyone coughs or sneezes near me at the moment.

Wirra that appointment sounds awful. This is my second and I still expect to be reassured by my health professionals. Definitely ask if you can see someone else in the future, and no more students if their supervisers aren't making sure that you're being properly seen to.

lollypopsicle Tue 19-Feb-13 21:04:45

hi ladies. quick straw poll- anyone not having the whooping cough jab and if not, why not?

I didn't have the flu jab in the end and not keen on the thought of vaccines in general. However, having seen the footage of a tiny baby with whooping cough, that really would be terrible. Not sure what to do.

Boodstress Tue 19-Feb-13 21:06:19

Oh 10 that's so tough. I hadn't considered the issues like that that you will face as they get bigger, it's such an emotional roller coaster. I'm sending lots of good wishes & positives thoughts. Make sure you look after yourself as its so important you are fighting fit and getting hugs!!
artigene that sounds like a lovely day. Did you see the Dinos from the Dino petting zoo at Royal Festival Hall (I think) my eldest wanted to go so much but it was only on Mon-Wed & my pelvis couldn't have handled it :-(

lollypopsicle Tue 19-Feb-13 21:07:35

meant to also send wishes to 10 and seb. glad he was settled when you left but must be really hard to walk away, esp after the day you had.

Ellypoo Tue 19-Feb-13 21:18:59

Oh 10 that must have been really scary - glad he's ok now but you must have been petrified. Great that the feeding tube has been removed though, I hope that he catches up with himself very soon xx

Yes it's me with the crutches - don't need them all the time thank goodness, but when I have bad days they really take the pressure off.

Think my baby has moved position - kicks feel more internal and nowhere near as strong as they were so think the back is towards my front now.

Can't wait to finish work - am really struggling now hmm

Hope you manage to rearrange your scan for when your DH can make it.

Ellypoo Tue 19-Feb-13 21:21:12

Lolly - I had the whooping cough jab last week, for me the benefits to the baby far outweigh the risks of the vaccination.

I think there have been a few threads on the pregnancy topic about it though.

Boodstress Tue 19-Feb-13 21:32:41

lolly I didn't get the flu jab last time, although I did this time after further research but I will get the whooping cough, it's very different and is just an extension of your antibodies app. Also key development has taken place by now but of course it's a personal thing.

babygeek Wed 20-Feb-13 08:34:15

Hi, will pop back in later as I've been quiet again for a while but just caught up with the thread and 10, I hope that Seb keeps well. Sounds like he is doing so well up till yesterday's little drama which is hopefully just a one-off. He is in the best place he can be even though it must be hard to leave him each day. Thinking of you! brew
Wirra, sorry to hear about your crap midwife experience. You should feel looked after and reassured after your appts if they were doing their job properly. Hope you find some alternative that can give you better advice/reassurance.

SevenReasonsToSmile Wed 20-Feb-13 08:42:04

I'll definitely be getting the whooping cough jab, like elly said I think the benefits far outweigh the risks. If the baby got whooping cough I know I'd never be able to forgive myself if I could have prevented it. It's personal choice of course, but a vaccine won't kill me, babies can die from whooping cough sad

beaut hope you manage to get the scan rearranged so DP can make it. I've heard the ideal time is 28 weeks, I can't see that one week later would make a huge difference.

10 ((hug)) that must have been really scary. Hopefully it won't be many weeks until you have him home. It must be so tough leaving him but he's in the best possible place for now.

I've caught DDs cold, I'm croaky and my chest hurts, and i've got bump ache from coughing already.

cuppateaandagingersnap Wed 20-Feb-13 09:04:49

10 glad Seb is ok after that scare, must have been horrible, like others have said he's in the best place and will hopefully grow into himself soon, hugs and handholding, xx

I think we'll worth while to get flu and whooping cough vaccines, there is a lot going about at the moment and anything to reduce risk to baby is worth it.

beaver33 Wed 20-Feb-13 09:05:55

Morning all

Taken today off work as I'm so full of the cold it's digusting. I'm a croaky, snotty pool of gunk. For anyone else out there suffering (*Maybe*, Seven) I can recommend Kleenex balsam tissues - they've got menthol in them and feel lovely and do help to clear the airways a bit.

10 poor you, what a fright. Love that he's off the feeding tube, though, that's great news. I suppose every step forward will come with a potential complication but he's such a little miracle baby already, and so strong in spirit. It must be so hard for you to walk away every day. One day - not so far away! - you'll walk away with him.

On whooping cough, I was def planning to have it. No-one has mentioned it to me so far - when do we get it? Next midwife appt is in 3 weeks when I'll be 31 weeks so hopefully that's still within the bracket.


roastpotatoes Wed 20-Feb-13 09:40:53

beaver apparently the ideal time to have it is 28-32 weeks. Might be worth phoning your surgery and asking about it though - I had to book to see a separate nurse for it, rather than the midwife. I had it last week and it was fine. Arm ached a little bit the next day, but nothing bad.

10 I hope you managed to have a good night's sleep after yesterday's stressful day and that you get to spend some lovely time with the gorgeous Seb today.

Ellypoo Wed 20-Feb-13 09:43:35

Beaver my GP surgery wrote to me, had to book it there with the nurse, not the MW, so maybe call your surgery? Think it's between 28 & either 32 or 36 wks pg.

Sorry for all of you with the horrid colds, I hope you all feel better v soon x

ng1412 Wed 20-Feb-13 10:01:56

Agh just thrown up after eating an apple. Looks like morning sickness has returned. Bugger!

shelly81 Wed 20-Feb-13 10:41:26

Morning sickness has returned here too :-( booooo xx

Boodstress Wed 20-Feb-13 11:00:01

Morning retching returned here. Re heightened sense of smell is probably responsible. 29 + 5

tasmaniandevilchaser Wed 20-Feb-13 14:03:37

hi all, I've been off line for a week, no landline or internet!!! shock Flipping BT angry Everything seems to be going wrong in the flat (boiler, phone, internet, toilet) and I haven't got the energy for it all.

10 sorry to hear poor little Seb and you had a rough day, hope he is doing better today. I've been thinking of you.

beaverglad to hear you got your cashpoint money back

wirra sorry to hear you had a rubbish appt, I would definitely ask for another midwife or complain. You shouldn't be feeling upset after an appt, they are doing something wrong!

elly sorry to hear you're on crutches. Hope that good days are more frequent than the bad.

My PGP is very up and down, but I went to pg yoga class yesterday and my hips feel a million dollars!!! smile

and yes to very uncomfortable rolls from the baby, there are times when I think "this can't be right!" as it really doesn't feel good. Glad that I'm not the only one, I was starting to worry.

whooping cough jab - yes definitely for me. I had pneumonia at 13 wks with this pg and anything that avoids that kind of illness/hospital stays etc etc for me or bubba tas is a good thing.

I'm very very very tired and hormonal and I can't wait for mat leave! DH is finishing his job this week, so from now on he'll be a lot closer to home, thank goodness!

Hope everyone is doing ok,

rachywhite83 Wed 20-Feb-13 14:57:24

Feeling like I have got about 6 babies inside me today ! The stomach movements are massive !

berri Wed 20-Feb-13 15:47:50

10 how scary for you all sad I hope he doesn't frighten you like that again! Fingers crossed you have smooth sailing ahead, he'll be going home with you in no time. How are you feeling - are you getting enough sleep etc?

<waves to pickle> congrats on your new house!

Has anyone found a good remedy for a terrible cough? My chest hurts so much!! I've had paracetamol to get rid of my headache, which is helping a bit, but the honey & lemon I've tried for the cough is doing nothing so far. Any home remedies please send them this way!!

30 weeks tomorrow shock how did that happen! Eek!

Rhienne Wed 20-Feb-13 18:23:48

No home remedies for coughs, sorry, but my doctor prescribed a morphine based suppressant which you CAN take during pg (thank goodness) that really helped. (Don't ask about the constipation it caused). It's not possible to use it while BF, as I discovered with DS, because the morphine can cause small children's breathing to relax to dangerous levels (or something), but while the LO is still getting oxygen through your blood stream it is no danger to them. It really helped, especially at night to help me sleep.

Tis was o/s, and when I looked it up on wikipedia to find the english translation I ended up here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylmorphine#Brand_names, which seems to be very US centric. Sorry, can't help with recommendations for UK products...

roastpotatoes Wed 20-Feb-13 18:56:45

Can someone remind of all the positive things about being pregnant and having a baby?? It feels like at the moment it just means that I can't join in all the fun stuff that other people are doing and that's making me grumpy. My dh is off skiing next week without me - I have encouraged him to go because will be much harder to do once the baby is here but feels really tough because I LOVE skiing and am sad to be left at home envy And then my friends are organising a girlie weekend on a Greek island for the August bank holiday. They invited me to go along but clearly it's impractical to think about when I'll have a 3 month old baby. And finally - just to top it off - my friends have just bought tickets to go and see one of my favourite bands but I can't go because it's in London the week before I'm due.

All this fun that I'm missing out on. :-( Feels like all I have to look forward to is ten more weeks of getting prgressively bigger and feeling more and more uncomfortable. And I think I saw the beginning of stretch marks on my tummy this morning as well sad

Tell me to stop moaning!

Boodstress Wed 20-Feb-13 19:45:39

I can't roast - I'm a monumental moaner right now. Feel tired, fat, cumbersome, emotional and sore and I can't face socialising .. I think it's a tough time of the pregnancy.

You're a very good wife sending other half off skiing. I'm not that nice, not with two boys to contend with. Intrigued about Greek islands for a weekend.. Is tht even possible? Do they have children at home ? I'm jealous about that one for sure envy

mrsmooms Wed 20-Feb-13 20:46:37

I'd like to join please ... better late than never I guess! Have an 18 month old DS and baby number 2 due 2nd May ...

Boodstress Wed 20-Feb-13 21:34:35

Hi mrsmooms , you're due the day before me. How has the pregnancy being going? There is a May Stats thread that you can add yourself to. Do you know what your little one will be yet?

roastpotatoes Wed 20-Feb-13 23:14:50

bood I don't feel like a very good wife, encouraging him to go and now moaning about it! I am the first of my closest friends to have a baby - not quite sure how that happened. We're all in our early to mid-thirties but I was just the first to take the plunge. So am feeling the change in lifestyle. Sure it won't be long before they all follow suit though. And that will put paid to glamorous weekends on greek islands!!

Welcome mrsmoons - great that you joined us. I'm due on 5th May...

rachy my little one has been going a bit bonkers the last couple of days as well - the kicks are so much stronger now, takes me a bit by surprise!

ng1412 Thu 21-Feb-13 08:14:16

roast very commendable letting your DH go away! I can see how difficult it is to turn down social stuff, I have forgotten what having a social life is with having my DD!

Artigene just to confuse matters I am actually having the baby in a Swiss hospital as we live close to the border and the facilities are much better. Plus the French consider full term to be 41 weeks and I am not going over 40 weeks, not at my age, such a risk. I was considered high risk in the UK because of my age when I had my DD and that was 2 years ago! The French take a rather more relaxed approach which I am not a fan of.

But yes the maternity unit we had a tour of at the weekend have the option of giving your baby to a nurse overnight if you need rest, they wake you for any BF. I may take advantage of that. I suffered a lot after my DD was born as I just hadn't had any sleep for days before delivery.

betsyb75 Thu 21-Feb-13 12:42:45

Hi, been off for a bit, sorry not responded to your kind messages...just caught up.

Beaver i do live just outside Sarf London!
Still no classes we can do with NCT, so have asked my midwife if any NHS ones close by- fingers crossed. I work for a publication, but mostly sit on my bum all day staring at pictures!

Terra I wasn't expecting the GTT result at all, although I do have an underactive thyroid. I also have low iron so they have given me some Iron tablets.

Wirra I'm going to Baby Show tomorrow! Am so excited, I just want to try out some prams and get excited again...I feel like I have just been a moany old cow for ages! Hope you have a great day.

Maybe and Artigene Its good to know big babies are ok!
It was a different midwife to my usual one, she didn't measure me, just felt my bump, although my last appt with normal midwife, I was measuring correctly for the weeks. I have a appt in 2 weeks with a diabetic nurse and have been told to keep an eye on my diet.

And to everyone who has kindly asked about my dad, thank you- he is due to go in on Tuesday for more exploratory tests on his liver, and then they want to start chemo asap on his bowel. Still trying to be calm and strong, but I am having wobbly days...prob doesn't help that I have been worried about the GTT results etc.

Sorry for long post, just wanted to reply, and hope everyone feeling better/ok.
Its started to get really hard to sleep now, rolling over/getting out of bed is starting to get comical!


Catchingmockingbirds Thu 21-Feb-13 16:30:00

Hi everyone, it's been a while, last time I was on the May thread was probably around my 12 week scan.

I'm glad to see everyone is keeping well, not long now grin

berri Thu 21-Feb-13 20:23:18

Hi mrsmooms we are due date buddies! Hope you're feeling ok so far!

mrsmooms Thu 21-Feb-13 21:36:25

Hi bood, roast, berri and everyone else (and thanks for info re adding myself to the stats thread, will do that). Is there also a FB group?

30 weeks today ... have just started getting much bigger and the reality of knowing I'll have a newborn to look after as well as a toddler within a matter of weeks is starting to sink in shock Oh and um the actual birth bit as well ...

Anyone else been living in pleasantly ignorant bliss until now??

Catchingmockingbirds Thu 21-Feb-13 21:49:30

My son is now 6 so the sleepless nights and constant stress are a distant memory for me mooms, I've a feeling that I'll get a nasty shock when she's here and I'm doing the school run on 2 hours sleep with a screaming newborn.

Has anyone had any scares at all? I had some bleeding the other night, terrified me but everything was fine.

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 22-Feb-13 10:41:39

Hi to mrsmooms and welcome back mockingbirds.

roast the last trimester is tough, we're uncomfy yet having a baby still feels like weeks away. Come August you'll be snuggling your baby and walking in the park on hot sunny days with the pram, they'll be waking up hungover and moaning about it being too hot.

My cold has now progressed to having completely lost my voice. I'm so congested and have a chesty cough, the linctus and paracetamol I've been told to use aren't even touching it.

Ellypoo Fri 22-Feb-13 12:48:49

Hi all!
TGIF!!! Am absolutely shattered - had to go to London with work yesterday, so a really long day & a lot of waddling, so I can barely move today but am working from home, so that's helping at least! DH made the fire before he went to work, so I'm nice and snuggly!!
We are going to a ball tonight, so going to finish work early so I can have a nice bath and possibly a nap before having to get ready! Not overly looking forward to it, but should be a lovely meal at least! We are going with great friends though, and she is about 7 weeks pg with their second, so we'll be able to have lots of pg talk!!!

I hope your cold improves very soon seven, it's rubbish not being able to take anything, isn't it!

shelly81 Fri 22-Feb-13 17:36:41

Hiya ladies ... Hope everyones well ... Does anyone else feel like they've been pregnant FOREVER ....god its so long haha xxx

Boodstress Fri 22-Feb-13 18:21:41

Wow Elly very impressed with your ball, I haven't made it back down the stairs after boys 7pm bedtime any night this week.

30 weeks today shelly and feel like its speeding up again - I just know we have a lot to do before little one arrives but OMG Easter hols with two busy boys and a creaky pelvis... How I will cope is anyone's guess confused

Catchingmockingbirds Fri 22-Feb-13 19:12:59

Yes shelly, it's taking so long, I wish she'd just hurry up and get here. I've still got another 13 weeks to go.

10storeylovesong Sat 23-Feb-13 06:52:28

catching be careful what you wish for!!

scooby26 Sat 23-Feb-13 09:56:24

Morning all,

27w 1d here. Just done 6 days at work and got today to do til 3 days off...
It's snowing up here...

Still got 8 weeks til I start my leave which I'll be taking directly before maternity leave..

Got 28 wk appt this week and a swab to test for group b strep in this pregnancy ( had last time ) then I really must decide which hospital I want to use! :-)

Elly- hope you had a lovely night.it was my bday yesterday and I could not face getting ready and going out!!!!

10- how's it all going?

Feeling exhausted here- much more than last time- but I guess I'm working shifts and have a toddler so no just staying in bed like last time!
Bump seems much bigger and much lower- quite uncomfy at times...

Enjoy ur wkend ladies!

ng1412 Sat 23-Feb-13 14:19:33

Had my full GTT today, had to have bloods then sugary drink then more bloods after an hour and after 2 hours and I had to wait in the waiting room, they wouldn't let me leave until the end! Was exhausting as it had snowed overnight here so we have lots and lots of snow and uncleared roads as I went first thing!

Glad it is over, hope results are not too bad but have been eating a lot of sweet stuff recently. Totally lost interest in savoury foods.

Shelly I am 28 weeks tomorrow and it definitely feels like it is dragging now.

10 how are you and little Sebastian getting on. Hope you are both thriving x

Ellypoo Sat 23-Feb-13 18:09:35

The ball was lovely but am totally shattered today. I went to bed for a couple of hours before I had to get ready which was very necessary, otherwise I would have been asleep before the main course!!

Had some awful news today though, it looks like mil has got cancer of the oesophagus (sp?) so we are a bit in shock really - they are discussing her results etc on Tuesday so we should know more next week, but generally the prognosis isn't great hmm. It would just be nice to be able to be happy and look forward for a bit.

It's snowing here again too but don't think it's going to be too bad.

Hope GTT results come back ok - I haven't heard anything but they said no news is good news so that's fine!

29+4 and 4 weeks left at work before 1 week annual leave then mat leave - yay!!

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 23-Feb-13 18:17:30

elly so sorry to hear about your MIL, that's awful news.

betsy hope you and your family are holding up as well as you can under the circumstances.

I'm another one feeling completely shattered, sure I wasn't so tired last time. My PGP has gone downhill after a great few days, got a referral to the physio but not sure what they can do..... Has anyone seen a physio? What did they actually do, last time they just said try the exercises and hold on til you give birth! elly remember you got crutches, did,they do anything else?

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 23-Feb-13 18:18:56

Oh and I'm 29+4, just 3 wks of work to go before my annual leave, can't wait!

Artichook Sat 23-Feb-13 18:41:21

Elly - so sorry to hear about your MiL, I hope the appointment isn't as bleak as you fear it might be.

10 - I hope Seb is doing OK. It must have been v scary when he needed oxygen. I can't imagine what that must have been like for you.

I'm v ill: hacking cough, wheezing, fever. The cough makes my pelvis ache so badly and my pelvic floor ain't behaving as I'd like when I cough. Utterly miserable. Oh, and the DDs both have friends sleeping over so I have four girls aged 6 and under screaming with excitement upstairs.

Artichook Sat 23-Feb-13 18:42:31

Btw I've changed my name a bit AGAIN. I hope you can all recognise me. The names are all variations in a theme.

lollypopsicle Sat 23-Feb-13 18:52:50

taz when I had physio she asked me to strip to bra and pants and looked at the way I stood. she then made my lie on my stomach and poked at my back to find tender areas. she then stretched my leg out, massaged my back and one bum cheek blush then she showed me how to do a few exercises. I then had to continue these exercises at home. I have to say, I was amazed at the immediate difference. I walked in with a limp and walked out without 1. That was 3 weeks ago and while I still have pain, its like the clock has been turned back a few weeks and I'm keeping it under control. she also gave me a tuby grip to wear that goes from my hips and over my bump. for me, it was worth it.

elly sorry to hear about your mil. thanks

berri Sat 23-Feb-13 19:07:00

arti that sounds like fun shock

elly I'm sorry to hear about your mil, hope the results come back with some treatment which might help.

Hope everyone's coughs and colds bugger off soon!

Happy belated birthday scooby! smile

Ellypoo Sat 23-Feb-13 20:04:59

Thanks all, just a really worrying time - feels like we've had so many problems & setbacks over the last few years.

Tas the physio gave me some quite useful exercises, some pelvic floor, some with a birth ball - also gave me support belt and a tubi grip thing for support. I def found it useful going.

SevenReasonsToSmile Sat 23-Feb-13 20:38:08

elly so sorry to hear about your MIL.

scooby happy belated birthday, you should have said smile. I had to tell them which hospital I wanted to use at the start of my booking in appt!

ng hope the results are ok, I've also been eating far too much sweet stuff. Where are you? We've had hardly any snow here thankfully.

tas sorry you're suffering with PGP, hope the physio improves things a bit for you. When is the appointment?

arti sorry you're ill, hope you cope with the sleepover ok. I'll confess that my cough has been testing my pelvic floor somewhat.

My voice is back today but I'm still croaky and my cough is worse than it was before. I'm just so congested though and getting fed up with it.

Is anyone thinking about using reusable nappies btw? I'm contemplating it for this one. I worked out earlier that by potty training at 2.5 you use roughly 4000 nappies, if they're brand name ones that's nearly £600. With DD being 17 months when this one arrives and therefore probably in nappies for another year that's a lot of extra expense!

Betsy Hope you are ok and continuing with your positive outlook.

Elly sorry to hear about your MIL.I hope you aren't in too much pain as well.Sending virtual hugs.

Scooby Happy belated birthday.

Bet those of you with maternityeave coming up soon can't wait.

I just had an epic fail.Thought a nice warm bath might soothe baby to sleep as I can't sleep at night due to him always being awake.Anyway whilst removing leggings for bath I hurt myself (grr forgot about trying to bend with bump) then the kids needed the loo and ds2 showed his extreme shock at catching site of my noonie and telling me 'wow mum you are so hairy'. hmmI can't see it any more.Usually do my own waxing and obviously can no longer reach.

To top it all off baby seems more awake than ever after my soothing bath.

Bunnychan Sun 24-Feb-13 04:07:24

Morning ladies- I'm wide awake after the most terrifying nightmare about bleeding massive clots/ trying to get hold of the delivery suit and no one answering/ not having anything packed as only 27 weeks. Never been so happy to be awake at 4 am! This is my second dream this week about not having anything ready- anxious much?
Sorry to hear that some of you are unwell or suffering; hope things improve soon!
Also, sorry to hear about your MIL, Elly.
I don't really know the point of my post- sorry! I guess I needed to distract myself as I'm too scared to go back to sleep blush

Chottie Sun 24-Feb-13 04:24:32

Bunny I hope you are over your bad dream now. Don't worry about not having everything ready, despite all the ads, babies actually require very little smile

CheerfulYank Sun 24-Feb-13 07:17:26

Right. Am DETERMINED to keep up with all of you this time! smile

Artichook Sun 24-Feb-13 07:33:58

Welcome back Cheerfull! How's the pregnancy going? Dud the sickness pass? Do you know what you are having?

Sorry to hear about your nightmare Bunny. Hope you got to sleep again.

I'm up with the sleepover crowd. We are watching Tangled and eating freshly baked muffins DH made.

Boodstress Sun 24-Feb-13 07:45:56

bunny I'm having anxiety dreams all the time, bizarre situations and people or something dreadfully wrong with the baby. I got them with my other pregnancies. I just try and eliminate all the practical worries and accept that the others are my freaky worries at work.

Beaut that made me laugh. Boys don't hold back. My LO asked if the baby 'was there (chest area) 'or there(tummy) and I said 'here in my tummy' and he said ' hmm where are those 2 round things gone' ...monoboob alert!!!

CheerfulYank Sun 24-Feb-13 08:40:28

Thank you Artichook! smile The sickness did get a bit better with medication (odansetron) then right around Christmas we were all down with a terrible strain of the flu, and bizarrely when the flu cleared I didn't need the meds anymore.

I had to go in for a level 2 ultrasound b/c of the flu and baby was fine...and is a girl! grin It also revealed a large placental lake, which I'd never heard of but can apparently occasionally cause issues with the baby's growth. So I am having scans every four weeks to keep an eye on things.

Have also been having really strange dreams!

tasmaniandevilchaser Sun 24-Feb-13 08:46:27

hi all, thanks for the advice on physio and PGP, I haven't got an appt yet, but it was quite quick last time. Seems a bit better today, but I'm still sleeping on my back which I think helps. I slept on my side 2 nights ago, bad mistake!

artichook that sounds like hell, sheer hell. 4 small children and feeling ill shock But film and muffins does sound better (though I cry like a baby at Tangled, seen it several times and every time I'm weeping at the end when she sees her parents again blush)

hi cheerful good luck with keeping up, I come on fairly regularly and still get totally lost!

bood monoboob!! grin that is hilarious! They do say the funniest things, DD said "mummy I love your bosoms, they're like aubergines". She has also stroked my legs and said "mummy I love your hairy legs". Not much of a culture shock there, need to be a bit more proactive on the grooming front I think!

bunny hope you haven't had any more bad dreams, chottie is right, babies don't actually need much stuff and the shops will be open after he/she is born!

seven, yes I had reusables for DD (you get a free voucher from our council here) but didn't use them blush but still have them and I'm thinking about using them. Just got a load of cheap flannels from ikea and a fleece to use on his bum, at least I won't need to use as many wet wipes.

Hope everyone else is doing ok

CheerfulYank Sun 24-Feb-13 09:09:23

Can someone PM me about the FB group please? smile

I carried DS from my bed to his tonight and think I strained something. He's five and a half but the size of a seven year old and I really shouldn't have done it. I did it because I was irritated with DH too (he was sleeping and didn't want to wake up and move him so I got all stroppy and said "fine I will do it myself" blush) and now I have a low cramp and am feeling guilty. sad Baby is really active though and I'm sure all is fine.

Catchingmockingbirds Sun 24-Feb-13 10:05:06

bunny I wish I had seen your post earlier, I woke up at half 3 this morning with a bad dream and couldn't get back to sleep until about 5am, I would have chatted to you smile

taz I've been waiting to hear from a physio for about 2 1/2 months now, hoping they'll get in touch soon!

I have a very excited little boy here this morning, it's his 6th birthday. How is everyone else this morning?

Catchingmockingbirds Sun 24-Feb-13 10:06:43

Is there a fb may anti-natal group too?

Bunnychan Sun 24-Feb-13 10:49:26

I'm so glad it's not just me with the dreams. I know exactly where it all stemmed from but it was horrible just the same. I think I dreamt about bleeding because I had been talking about post birth bleeding with my SILs. Also, I don't have a nursery as I live at my parents- we will be due to move at the start of the summer so there's no point setting one up and no spare room either. This means that all my baby stuff is stashed everywhere and this is really getting to me :-( so I guess that's why I keep having anxious dreams. I did manage to go back to sleep but I have to be honest, waking up for hours on end seems to be a regular thing.
I think the next 12 1/2 weeks seem so long and yet so short all at the same time x

Bunny How awful.I too have been having nightmares like that as well although they've not been so bad last week as I can't sleep anyway.

Welcome back Cheerful and Catching

Cheerful so you will have one of each now.Are you still waiting to tell your Mum.

Catching Happy birthday to your son.Do you have anything nice planned.I can't believe by the time this baby arrives I will have a 7 and 8 year old.Just hope we manage to fit in a party for ds2 as his birthday is the 13th.

Can we eat ice cream? I really want some Ben and Jerrys grin

Catchingmockingbirds Sun 24-Feb-13 12:04:24

Thanks beaut! Yes he's got a party at his favourite softplay and all his class are going, he also had a sleepover last night for him and his friends, I obviously made all of these plans on a day where I had more energy!

twinklingelephant Sun 24-Feb-13 17:48:43

Hi guys. It's been a good while since I've been on here! The fb group has been easier to keep up with bit now I've finally worked out how to get the MN app working I will hopefully keep more in touch with this thread too smile
Good luck to everyone starting summer term at school tomorrow, I know from fb that there's a lot of us! x

roastpotatoes Sun 24-Feb-13 18:51:16

Hello everyone (and particular hello to the one of you that I happened to meet in real life today!).

Sorry to hear about the bad dreams. I've been having some strange ones as well - but your's sounds particularly nasty, bunny.

My bump has been quite painful the last couple of days. Yesterday it was stitch like pains all down the right hand side. And now today it has been feeling like I've pulled lots of little muscles all over my tummy. Do other people get this kind of thing? I wond whether perhaps the baby has moved a bit and that's what's causing it. She has been head down for quite a while now but perhaps she's shifted.


Catchingmockingbirds Sun 24-Feb-13 20:20:45

I get that too roast, the GP said that for me it's caused by baby squishing everything. It can get very painful though.

cuppateaandagingersnap Sun 24-Feb-13 20:33:53

Really sorry to hear about your MIL elly hope she gets some positive news about treatment.

I'm another one having disturbing dreams, been dreaming about having bleeds pretty regularly since the beginning and then waking up needing to dash to the loo just to check all ok, not nice but as others are saying must be anxiety dreams.

Had a 4D scan yesterday which was ace, so nice to see him wriggling around in there and pulling funny faces and re-confirmed definitely a boy!

Having a bit of a disaster today, was sorting out what will be the nursery and managed to pull the curtains down pole and all sad then went to put the crib together and discovered that a bit of it was broken, added to that our heating has packed up and it's going to be the end of next week before we can get the bits we need to get it fixed, gah!

Oh and beaut Ben and Jerry's is fine - I have a small addiction, the only ice cream we need to avoid is the whippy stuff from machines or if made from unpasturised milk but TBH never seen ice cream made from unpasturised milk, certainly not in tescos!

SevenReasonsToSmile Sun 24-Feb-13 20:39:39

I've PM'd both of you who asked about the fb group.

beaut yes ice cream is fine thank goodness

catching hope your DS has had a great day.

Today I may have accidentally spent nearly £300 on reusable nappies and all the bits I need to go with them. I'm switching 15mo DD into reusables now so I l know what I'm doing when the next one arrives. I figured I'll be more likely to put the next one in reusables if I'm already in the routine of it and washing nappies anyway, if not it'll be too easy just to keep buying disposables.

mrsmooms Sun 24-Feb-13 20:51:43

poor bunny, hope you don't have any more nightmares .. FWIW I went through a phase of having horrible panicky dreams too and when I looked into it apparently it can be your mind processing anxiety and fears during sleep (esp re horrible situations you block out when you're awake) and you may well find that when it comes to labour etc that you're calm and able to cope because there isn't that pre-existing anxiety there waiting to pop up. No idea if it is true but made me feel better! smile Oh, and I'm also pretty sure I also have nightmares if I get wrapped up in the duvet and overheat ...

seven, have also been thinking about switching 18 month old DS to reusables as it doesn't seem fair for the new one to have jazzy colourful pants and him the plain old disposable ones smile. Can you keep us updated on how you get on? Am wondering how much more extra washing it would generate on top of the daily loads and whether you need a tumble dryer or do they dry pretty quickly on an airer?

ooh could you also PM me re the FB group? Ta!

shelly81 Sun 24-Feb-13 21:21:31

My DS is going to be 13 in the morning :-o I feel so old haha he's so excited about being a teenager .... Xxx

Wirrawoo Sun 24-Feb-13 23:02:23

Hey roast I get that achey bump thing too at the end of long days. Feels like lots of little pulled stomach muscles along the sides. Hadn't thought of it being the baby squishing things though. Interesting!

elly sorry to hear about your MiL, hope you get good news soon thanks

bunny poor you with the bad dreams, like someone else said though apparently it's your psyche sorting through your fears and anxieties whilst you sleep. Haven't had any ones about the baby other than nice ones, but have had several recently where in my dreams I'm stuck having this baby with my old terrible ex from years ago, then I'm so relieved every time I wake up and see my partner there and realise that that time is over and think "thank f** for that!" my cat also keeps on turning up in my dreams in random dream locations snd i end up wandering around my various adventure dreams with her under my arm making sure shes safe confused. Don't know why that's all started happening. Our poor bodies and brains are coping with a lot right now and seems like dreams are the place where stuff that scares us goes to get worked through!

Thanks for all the support last week by the way ladies. You are a lovely bunch and really helped smile

We went to the Baby show today and are feeling v satisfied with some good bargains... Got our pram with a free car seat, car seat adaptor and free newborn carrycot, got Tripp trapp highchair with good discount and all the tommeetippee things we needed (breast pump etc) discounted, half price changing mat, some cheap dribble bibs and finally some (ahem) perineal massage gel. There's a phrase I never thought I'd say blush

CheerfulYank Mon 25-Feb-13 04:49:51

Does anyone else get a rock-hard uterus after sex? blush I looked it up and it's apparently normal, but I feel like it can't be quite comfortable for the baby!

Thanks Ive bought some Ben and jerrys to eat in front of the tv this evening grin

CupofTea glad you enjoyed the 4d scan we have ours next Saturday.I can't wait.

Cheerful Sorry I can't help much with the uterus thing.

Anyone else not been having as much sex?Obviously I only see DP at weekends anyway but we had a good sex life before.We are doing other things but very little penetrative sex here hmmDP has said that it worries him with me being pregnant and to be honest most of the time we are just too tired.Please tell me we aren't the only ones.

Also forgot to add that I slept for about five hours last night.First time in a week.However,the reason I slept is because baby Didnt keep me awake kicking.So now I'm worried something's wrong as haven't felt much movement.I think I need help haha.

Catchingmockingbirds Mon 25-Feb-13 08:32:56

We're the same beaut, DP is too worried about hurting either of us too, it doesn't help that my hormones are all over the place and mean I'm in the mood all the time. You might have been so tired from nights of broken sleep that you've slept through the baby kicking all night, try not to worry smile

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 25-Feb-13 08:43:15

Hey ladies.

I don't come on for a few days and this thread moves on so quick.

Elly so sorry to hear about MIL. Must be a shock. Are you close to your inlaws?

Welcome back cheeful and catch.

Beaut glad you managed to rearrange your 4D scan. I couldn't get another appt! So we will still go next Saturday-during the kitchen being fitted! Anyone else slightly worried about all the scans? It's not something I've thought too much about. I have scan every 2 weeks and wanted the 4D one to feel more like a special moment as the others are very quick and medical. But a few weeks ago, there was a thread about a woman who wanted to turn down the 20 week scan due to uncertainty of side effects!

I need to admit to pulling a sicky today. Supposed to be first day back after half term, and I see from fb many of you have that too today. I spent last week so illl and miserable. I'm still coldly and ear ache but could have gone in blush. Now feeling very guilty. I've got tonnes of work today though as I was in bed last week and got nothing done.

I think I'm a bit in denial about the whole baby thing. DH feels the same. we have bought nothing for this little 'un. I have still got everything in the loft, but if she were to make an early arrival we'd be a bit caught out. Luckily MIL has stepped up and offered to wash and sort everything. She doesn't work and I think she wants to be useful. I could have hugged her! Just need to get the things down now.

Right. Need to hide phone now. I MUST do this work. Have a good day, ladies.

beaut you're not the only ones. But after being together 16 years we are hardly still at the jumping each other stage anyway.

28 weeks today!

ng1412 Mon 25-Feb-13 09:34:20

Elly so sorry to hear about your MiL,my uncle has just had bad news about the return of his cancer, my mum is so upset and she is on the other side of the Atlantic and feels totally useless.

Seven we are in France on the border with Switzerland, pretty near mountains so we get lots of snow that stays for weeks. We have had tons this weekend, but we don't have any forecast for this week so I am hoping that is the last of it. We get amazing Spring and Summer weather so I can't wait to be in the garden with my DD in a couple of months' time relaxing again!

Cheerful what is this sex thing you speak of? grin

Boodstress Mon 25-Feb-13 10:05:12

cheerful I know that your uterus contracts when you orgasm which is why it goes hard - not that I am having first hand experience of this; sex is a foreign concept to me right now. My creaky pelvis doesn't help but to be honest it's like having the baby in the room with me, I couldn't even think about it while I can see and feel the baby move blush.

We have moved rooms around this weekend and given up our big room so kids can share massive room. I invariably ended up doing a bit of lifting and pushing stuff and I'm wrecked but at least I can get cot up and start collecting & washing bits.

ng I worked in Zurich for a year and loved the distinct four seasons, summers swimming by the lake after work, winters snowboarding at the weekend. Unfortunately I didn't like the draconian Swiss laws so much.

Wirra you mentioned about cats in their dreams, from memory dream analysis say the appearance of cats in your dreams represents your womanhood and femaleness. The fact that you were carrying it around to keep it safe made me smile.

Artichook Mon 25-Feb-13 10:28:47

Cheerful - the rock hard uterus thing is normal, I get it too, it's not caused by sex itself but rather by orgasm.

Just had my 28 week appointment. All is good except baby is currently breech. The OB said not to worry at this stage but I'm a little concerned as both DDs were always head down. Anyone else got a breech lie at the moment?

beaver33 Mon 25-Feb-13 10:38:04

Morning ladies

Elly again, so sorry to hear about your MIL. Hope she's getting the care she needs and that there are things they can do for her. Stressful for your DH though, and for you.

Beaut and whoever had the monoboob comment - LOL. I have given up on hair removal. Tried to attack my bits with a razor the other day and came out in an awful rash which I can only put down to me hacking aimlessly. So sod it.

And this may or may not be linked to my new role as hirsute monster but...sex?? Pah. In my head I'm quite horny but when I actually think about the practicalities it turns me off. DH and I haven't talked about it and we're hugely affectionate in so many other ways that it honestly hasn't been an issue. But I get the distinct impression he's so in awe of what my body's doing and that there's a little girl in there that he'd find it a bit too difficult, IFSWIM.

Cheerful trust you to wander back in here and start banging on about shagging wink....welcome back!

I had the most blissful week at work last week - my main boss was away on holiday for half term and his deputy was in charge. Which meant I left the office ON TIME every day, was not put under any unnecessary additional pressure and was even told I could leave early on Saturday night. With another eight weeks before I go on mat leave I could really do with some more weeks like that. Sometimes I just want to shout, 'See this huge bump attached to my frontage?? It's a BABY and I'm PREGNANT and you need to cut me some slack'. But I don't.

29 weeks today...

ng1412 Mon 25-Feb-13 10:40:02

Artichook mine is currently breach too. Am 28 weeks also and at my last appt my consultant said it wasn't anything to worry about yet and that they normally turn before birth.

I have another appointment a week tomorrow so will be interested to see whether baby has moved. I have to say that at the moment the kicks are still coming from the same place so i don't think baby has moved.

WestieMamma Mon 25-Feb-13 10:41:37

Can I join the fb group please? (FlamingNoraImPregnantPanda in disguise)

30 + 5

OMG! 30+5 Where the flaming nora did that come from?

10 Any news on you and Seb.We haven't heard from you in a while hope all is going well.

Maybe I wouldn't worry at all about scans.I personally have never really had more than the two standard.However,a couple of friends have needed loads one of my friends needing one a week and all has been fine.I don't think they would do them of any risk.I guess the reasons for the scans would usually outweigh the risk(if any) of a scan IYSWIM.

I forgot to mention we went to look at our wedding reception venue yesterday which has been refurbed.We absolutely loved it.The venue was lovely before but we are both so pleased now.Its hard as MIL keeps throwing wedding questions at me and of course I'm excited but the baby is my only thought at the moment.

In other news I walked out of my job on Thursday.Its s long boring story but I had a huge argument with the owners older sister at the salon.Basically she spoke to me like rubbish and I stuck up for myself.DP doesn't want me to go back but I'm not sure.

Ellypoo Mon 25-Feb-13 11:44:04

What's sex? I have gone completely off it! Doesn't help that my pelvis is causing me so much pain though! Poor DH, but he'll just have to wait!

The docs and consultants are having a meeting about MIL tomorrow, so we are hoping to get more news after that, then at least we will know what we are facing and dealing with. Yes, we are really close to IL's and to my family too - we all live close to each other, and see/speak to each other loads.

I'm not worrying about the extra scans - as they aren't aware of any side effects even though US scans have been widely used for many years now, and the reassurance is far more worth it for me.

Crikey beaut, have the owners/their sister called you to apologise at all? Well done for sticking up for yourself. At least it won't affect your MA now! Glad you love your wedding reception venue - when are you getting married?

Has anyone else's brain just turned to absolute mush? I can't remember even the most basic simple things atm - I'm just rubbish! Has been pretty bad throughout the pg, but it has stepped up (or down!!) a gear this last week or so!!!

Only 4 weeks left at work - feels like an age, but hopefully it will go quickly!

29+6 today - looking foward to being over 30 weeks tomorrow, getting lots of lovely movements, love just sitting watching my bump move around in the evenings!!!

Elly I definitely have pregnancy brain.I forgot that I asked about sex on here.But am glad I'm not the only one not having any.

No the sister hasn't apologised to me. The owner hasn't either but has asked me to go in to talk. To be honest I love the job I do but the business hasn't taken off as well as I had hoped and Ive actually earnt my lowest wage ever over this last year. Which is bad considering ive worked full time since 16.I only took 3 months maternity leave with my first. I think I may have to look into something else after I've had baby.Im thinking of either some training in another area or going mobile. It all depends on childcare as its very expensive where I live as childcare is limited so I need to find something where I'm earning a half decent wage after childcare costs are taken off.

* Elly* Can't begin to imagine how you feel. I too am really close to ILs. I get on better with MIL than my mum. I hope you hear some positive news at appt.

Catchingmockingbirds Mon 25-Feb-13 12:17:54

I was worried about scans maybe, but I've been worried about everything with this pg (2 mc and 2 dc with SN, one very severe disability too), but any evidence I've found that suggests that any harm is caused is when the scans are longer than 10/15 minutes so I wouldn't worry about quick medical scans. I found that out after staying up all night terrifiedly scouring through journals after we mentioned to dp's paediatrician uncle that we were thinking of getting a 4d scan and he said he was against them and asked us why we would take unnecessary risks. I think me staying up all night panicking would have caused more harm than a scan though!

aberjen Mon 25-Feb-13 13:36:46

Hello ladies

Elly fingers and toes crossed for MIL thanks

roast small world smile

beaut Hope the job situation all works out for you

Hello to any newbies (sorry, losing track)

Re: scans - must admit it hadn't crossed my mind to worry. From my perspective, such as huge number of women have antenatal scans, and scans have been used routinely for so many years now, that I would think if they routinely caused problems a researcher somewhere would have shown a strong causative link by now (and it would have been all over the Daily Mail...!).

Had a lovely weekend. My 'surrogate mum' (lovely colleague) dropped some baby bits round, and DP picked up a fab, bargain high chair that he bought from eBay (weaning seems eons away but DP was very insisent that it was a great buy so we should get it now!). Seller threw in a baby bath and baby gym too - bonus! Also went for coffee with some local mums-to-be - great to meet some new people in the same boat smile

Discovered that hoovering/dusting the car can be added to the list of 'things it's difficult to do with a bump' (esp. as car is a 3-door - cue much crawling around with hoover in small spaces). At least I can advertise it now and hopefully have a nice little windfall for May...

Right, half an hour before my pointless training session on some software that the company will abandon very soon and that I won't even be here to use after April any way...

CheerfulYank Mon 25-Feb-13 14:25:15

Well great, now I feel like some sort of sex fiend! grin I did read that the uterine contractions were normal but nothing on whether it's actually uncomfortable for the baby...honestly I picture her in there with a hmm face, like, "really, you two?"

My "maternity leave" is going to be pretty casual. I used to work at the school as a SN aide but gave it up when we decided to try for #2...it was already getting to be a bit much juggling preschool schedules for DS, calling in when he was sick, etc. So now I manage a teeny tiny cinema, which is nice as it's all evening work so we don't need childcare.

Basically I'm just going to work until I can't (or until my water breaks in the lobby of the cinema, eek!) and then go back whenever I feel ready. So we'll see how that goes.

Sorry to hear about your job Beautician. Good for you for standing up for yourself!

CheerfulYank Mon 25-Feb-13 14:28:25

Oh, 27+4. Where has the time gone?! On the other hand we still have a few feet of snow so I feel like spring is never coming.

Catchingmockingbirds Mon 25-Feb-13 14:44:48

'Things it's difficult to do with a bump' - running to school in the morning with DS as you're late because you spent so long trying to find a jumper that fits!

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 25-Feb-13 15:29:23

mrsmooms I'll let you know how we get on with the nappies, I've gone for fitted ones that need a waterproof wrap over the top.

wirra could you have some underlying anxiety about not having as much time for the cat once the baby arrives?

beaut good for you standing up for yourself, though people should really know better than to cross a pregnant woman! Hope you resolve something soon.

I'm not at all worried about scans tbh, there is usually a medical need which would outweigh any poosible risks like elly said. Plus there's far worse things we could do when we're pregnant, I don't smoke, avoid vitamin A, never have more than the very occasional glass of wine, and quite frankly I have more important things to worry about.

Anyone with an iPhone if you add the new Mothercare app you get £10 off a £50 spend.Plus they have a mid season sale on smile

ng1412 Mon 25-Feb-13 16:25:48

Gawd I am feeling so stuffed after the smallest amount of food. Just had a hot chocolate and an apple and feel horrendous! Struggle to eat my dinner in the evenings as feel so uncomfortable afterwards. I am sooooo massive compared to last time. I need to stop putting on so much weight.

Anyone else struggling with eating? Do you have light meals in the evening?

Ng Im struggling to eat but still do(completely over indulge). Then I regret it as heartburn kicks in.

I am starting to put on a lot of weight now. Not just my bump that has gained but my thighs and calves are looking chubby hmm

WestieMamma Mon 25-Feb-13 17:11:18

I find I'm eating about a 3rd of my meals and then sneaking the rest onto my husband's plate. Today I've only had a croissant and small microwave dinner at lunchtime. The indigestion is killing me. Not sure I'll be eating anything else today sad

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 25-Feb-13 17:25:59

I'm not eating as much, I haven't all the way through though, I'm struggling to eat as there's nothing I want. I haven't had any cravings at all, just food aversions. And I've still only put on 2lbs hmm, not sure how as my bump is massive. Will mention it when I see GP on Weds, plus I have a scan in a couple of weeks. They didnt mention baby's size at 20 week scan or at my 3d one so I guess if baby was small they'd have said something. I should add that my pre-preg BMI was 34 so I don't need to gain loads anyway, I think between 9-20 lbs is recommended in total, and its the last few weeks we normally put on the most.

beaut did you ever mention your eating disorder to your MW? Hope you've been coping ok with it smile. Thanks for the advice on the app.

I sorted through DDs first clothes today, I think we have plenty of newborn and 0-3 clothes but I need prem clothes as I got rid of some in my post-birth few weeks of definitely not wanting any more children. We're going shopping on Sunday (without the kids, bliss, I may even be able to stop for coffee in John Lewis!) so will hopefully get some then. DH is on holiday next week, he's planning on hopefully starting to fit the kitchen if the builders have finished, I may have to nag him to get on with the nursery though!

Seven No I never mentioned it.Ive never said about it really to anyone in rl so its hard.If I'm honest Ive lapsed a bit and have been bingeing and purging a little.Im still gaining weight though Im trying to be good so that I can get my weight to stabilise and then go on a good diet afterwards( I will be joining weight watchers).Im looking forward to losing weight sensibly and also the social side of the class.Plus will be a nice walk in all that sun we are going to get come May.

Thanks for asking smile

C4te Mon 25-Feb-13 20:04:09

Evening everyone. Hope you don't mind me butting in.

I'm 28 +3 and suddenly feel and look very pregnant! Saw my midwife today who told me I am measuring large for my dates.

'What does that mean?' I asked.

'Well you don't look like you're carrying excess water', she replied, 'so it's probably just a big baby.'


I'm still working and aiming at not going on maternity leave til the end of April although 10 hour shifts on my feet are becoming more and more difficult so trying to be open minded about it!

As for the sex thing, my DP won't. At all. Not since we found out I was pg. Despite several conversations about there being more than one way to skin a cat, he just won't budge. And my libido is just as rampant as it ever was so it's more than a little frustrating!

Anyway, hoping to find time to pop in here every now and then and keep up with all the gossip. Looking forward to getting to know you.


CheerfulYank Mon 25-Feb-13 23:30:18

Hi C4te! smile

berri Tue 26-Feb-13 03:18:27

cheerful I had looked up the achiness after sex too - I'm a bit blush but I just can't get enough of shagging at the moment! It's been like that almost since my bfp....DH thinks it's Christmas but I keep telling him he may as well make the most of it as I didn't feel like it for ages after DS was born!
I even have loads of sex dreams, so have been waking DH up early and all sorts. My doc says the more endorphins the baby gets, the better grin

Hi C4ate and welcome back westie and catching smile

Beaut let us know how you get on with your job - sounds like she was vile to you and has some apologising to do!

I wish I didn't have as much of an appetite!! I could eat all day if I let myself, especially chocolate. Weight is definitely going on now, I've put on 1st 4lb and I reckon there's lots more to come!


CheerfulYank Tue 26-Feb-13 06:54:04

Yay! Glad to hear from a fellow sex fiend, berri. wink

ng1412 Tue 26-Feb-13 10:51:15

Totally crappy day so far. Had a dreadful night, was up every hour for loo then at 3am I woke with horrendous back ache down my left side. Have been suffering with it quite a lot but not as severe as this. Was crying in pain at the end of the bed, scared of waking DD or DH. Stayed awake for two hours and eventually went to sleep only to have to get up at 7am for breakfast.

So tried to get a bath while DD had morning nap except she decided today she didn't want to sleep and spent an hour standing screaming in her cot. So I got out of my lovely bath, stressed out and still in pan. My DD of course is fine and now playing happily. I am still in agony.

I have a consultant appt next Tuesday and going to have to ask him for advice. I cannot bear this for another 10 weeks.

It doesn't help that we are completely in our own here, my parents are in the US and are due to stay with us at the end of April and DH's parents don't come over until mid May. Sometimes I wish I lived round the corner from them, this is one of those times....

In other news though I got results of full GTT and all was fine.....

Artichook Tue 26-Feb-13 11:02:56

Sorry to hear about your back ng, could you see a physio or osteopath? I've been sitting on one of those large Pilates balls which has helped my sore hips a lot. It be hard being so alone. Do you have good friends there? Would anyone take your DD for a few hours?

I'm still really ill with my terrible cough/wheeze/cold. I've been up since 4am having away and am feeling v sorry for myself. I haven't managed to get to work yet but must make an effort for a 2pm meeting. Groan. I feel terrible.

ng1412 Tue 26-Feb-13 11:21:21

Hi Art I can't get to see anyone because I don't have anyone to leave my DD with. I had back ache first time round but of course things were so much easier then and I used to go and see an osteo every week. I have a couple of friends near by but they have young babies so I couldnt leave my crazy DD with them.

We were so silly thinking we could cope overseas on our own. I just want to go home!

Sorry to hear about your cold, seems we are all going through it in different ways...

Artichook Tue 26-Feb-13 11:33:11

Could you afford some childcare? Maybe just a few hours a day. Or do you have space for a live-inau pair (v cheap!)? Ivey childcare would make you feel so much freer and happier. When I had DC2 I actually continued to send DC1 to her nanny share 3 days a week and it saved my sanity.

ng1412 Tue 26-Feb-13 11:36:59

I am waitng for the French childcare system to confirm my DD can attend a government run creche. I applied in November last year and am still waiting for them to confirm. It is absolutely ridiculous but my DD can't attend until she is given a registered number from the French childcare dept. and the creche won't take her until then.

Bonkers country!

SeaSalt1 Tue 26-Feb-13 11:38:58

Hi NG, just wanted to send you a big hug from one expat to another. I really understand how you feel; I know how hard and isolating I have found it living in Singapore and I don't even have a child to deal with - being so far away from everyone and not having the kind of support network you need is incredibly challenging. Keep going, you are doing brilliantly well and you're so nearly there now. Keep coming on here for a chat, I'm here for hand holding / encouragement whenever you need it smile

ng1412 Tue 26-Feb-13 12:06:08

Ah thanks Sea it must be more difficult being so far away. I guess we could nip home if we wanted but our difficulty there is that my PiL live in a tiny 2 bed bungalow and never gave the heating on and my parents are in the US but I can't stop them going as they have a house there and have been doing the winter months for 15 years or so.

You are going home soon right? Have you found somewhe to live etc?

Zorra Tue 26-Feb-13 13:59:55

Expat here as well, living in Sudan! I'm due home for the birth but having a total nightmare with HMRC and working out how long I can be back for before I lose my non-resident tax status (of course have private health care and whatnot, just want to be near my mum!). It's making me tear my hair out at the moment: I'm due to leave here in a month to make sure I have good time to settle / don't take too many risks with not being able to fly and I still don't know if I can really spend five months at home or if I need to move to a totally new place confused Feeling very sorry for myself and DS! (better for the rant though, so thanks!)

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 26-Feb-13 14:28:29

Wow zorra what on earth are you doing in Sudan of all places?! Hope you get some answers from HMRC soon.

ng sorry to hear that you're struggling.

No news here today, except that they're now at the plastering stage in the new kitchen. It's very nearly a room, they'll be knocking through into the main part of the house later this week.


SeaSalt1 Tue 26-Feb-13 14:38:16

That does sounds tricky NG, perhaps once the weather's a bit warmer (early spring?) you could nip over to the UK for a long weekend and visit some friends and your PIL (though granted none of us are likely to 'nip' anywhere very speedily in the next 12 weeks or so...).

You're absolutely right, I'm back to the UK at the end of next week. I can't believe it's all nearly over, I feel sad that I haven't really made the most of the experience of being in Singapore (most of it has felt like a survival test rather than a big adventure) but I'm proud of myself that I've done it and that I'm nearly through it. Adjustment back to UK life will take a while too. We have just spent a fortnight in Australia, which was wonderful (I love it there) and DH flew back to London last night to start his new job on Friday. I'm missing him loads already, and can't wait to join him next week. The 15 hour flight on my own with 50 or so kilos of luggage isn't something I'm looking forward to much though...

Zorra, you're in Sudan! That's so interesting, I'd love to travel there. The whole tax thing can be so complicated - I'm still paid through London (with UK tax rates) and haven't been here long enough to be taxed on a Singapore basis but I have to be careful not to spend too much time here in the next few months or I may be liable for double taxation. It must be very hard not knowing how long you can be in the UK for - have you got a good lawyer or accountant to advise you? There should be a pretty clear answer, it's just working out how to access the information. If you have to move somewhere else for tax reasons where would you go? The channel islands could be nice for the summer and not too far away from England (I'm guessing that might work tax-wise though I might be wrong). I completely understand that you want to be close to your Mum and that you don't want to fly too late in pregnancy - I was going to return to the UK at 31 weeks but pushed it forwards a bit and I'm so pleased I did. Keep us posted as to how you get on with planning.

aberjen Tue 26-Feb-13 14:53:36

Afternoon smile

Hi C4te

ng sorry you're having a rough time of it sad

seven exciting to hear how the kitchen is progressing! We knocked walls down to make ours bigger and I love it - but that's probably cus I make such a mess and need lots of workspace (it drives DP nuts, bless 'im grin)

Does anyone else seem to be back in the first trimester, just with a wriggly bump now?? Queasiness and constant hunger have returned, but all I really fancy eating are fizzy sweets and cheese and pickle sandwiches, much like at 7-8 weeks. And the weeing all the time has cranked up another notch - lovely!

27+5 - the 28 w milestone is within sight!

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 26-Feb-13 15:39:57

aberjen yes I can't stop peeing, and morning sickness has made a return.

Artichook Tue 26-Feb-13 16:05:00

I'm also feeling queasy. Not yet as bad as in the first trimester but not great. Maybe it will stop me eating and piling on the weight!

Zorra - wow to Sudan! Would your DH return with you?

WestieMamma Tue 26-Feb-13 16:54:41

Yep, I'm back in the first trimester. I feel queasy all the time and completely knackered. Indigestion tablets have become my new food group.

On a positive, I have been trialing a weighted blanket for the past couple of weeks. OMG, within half an hour I'm out cold until 7/8am with just once toilet break. Can't imagine what a difference it will make once baby arrives. I have a review appointment on Friday with my occupational therapist at the hospital. The blanket will be staying at home. She'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands if she wants it back. grin

WestieMamma Tue 26-Feb-13 16:55:17

*one not once

ng1412 Tue 26-Feb-13 17:18:08

Oh dear Zorra the joys of relocating back, I can't wait for that one day. Will be hugely complicated I am sure! We moved from Switzerland to France last year and that was fraught with complications and we only moved 30km! Our tax is still to be sorted out between the two jurisdictions.

But at least you know you will be home soon. So then what after the five months? Will you go back?

Sea next week, how exciting! So has your DH found you somewhere to live so you don't have to worry about that when you arrive back? I loved Singapore but we were only there on a short week stopover on the way to Oz and NZ. The heat was something else, spent most of the time underground! My dad was based there in WW2 (yes he is old and so am I!) so I took loads of photos for him, he couldnt believe the changes, but the old buildings are still there which I loved.

I finally had a nap earlier when my DD went to sleep for her afternoon nap. Now feel even worse!

Seven how long until the work is complete? Sunds like progress is being made!

aber definitely feeling worse again, I get up for the loo at least four times in the night. Plus horrible sickness. Roll on ten weeks!

ng1412 Tue 26-Feb-13 17:18:54

Westie what is a weighted blanket?

Boodstress Tue 26-Feb-13 17:41:37

Feel sorry for all those far from home. I've worked away a lot but all before I had kids. I miss my mum (in Dublin) a lot right now as MIL is not around like she was with the other pregnancies as my FIL is having chemo and she just doesn't have any other time. In means in times of sickness or extreme wreck ness you have to start leaning on the kindness of friends, even if they have little ones.

nG have you got a babysitter? Or a local older mum who you could befriend? I use Sitters agency for emergencies but not sure if there is an equivalent set up there?

Catchingmockingbirds Tue 26-Feb-13 18:03:11

It's usually for people with sensory issues ng, it's a really heavy blanket/duvet. It can be very calming to lie under and help with sleep.

CheerfulYank Tue 26-Feb-13 18:38:14

I love weighted blankets. smile When I worked at the school we had them for some of the kids and they were lovely.

ng1412 Tue 26-Feb-13 18:57:04

I am loving the idea of these blankets. I need one!

Bood unfortunately I barely know anyone here, cold and unsociable winter has meant no chance to even get out of the house, let alone meet people. Have to just wait until the creche will take my DD or my parents come over, both ages away! I really do wish we were at home right now.

WestieMamma Tue 26-Feb-13 19:02:19

Mine is a hospital grade one I got on prescription. It's a quilt with steel chains running the length of it. It means you are pinned to the bed like a butterfly in a display case are firmly wrapped while you sleep. This makes you feel more secure and thus enables deep sleep, in the same way as swaddling a baby I suppose.

Because I am autistic I don't normally sleep well, rarely falling into deep sleep (until now). This means I struggle during the day with anxiety, concentration and cognitive function. Normally I drag myself out of bed around 10am but can't function much before 12 because my brain is in a fog. The last couple of weeks I've been up at 7am and the fog has gone by 8am. This is unheard of for me.

berri Tue 26-Feb-13 19:40:27

ng I totally agree with the other guys' suggestions about childcare - I now have DS in every morning from 9-12 and I've really valued that time for being able to make appointments, just do nothing (!) or go to the supermarket by myself. Is it possible financially?

Cheerful grin that's what got us into this in the first place! I will be cheerful along with you wink

Hello to all the other expats brew - we are expecting a huge dump of snow on Chicago today so I'm slightly crapping myself. Hoping DH can leave work early so he doesn't have to drive through it. It's already started and looking ominous out! Luckily I have filled the freezer so technically don't have to go out for a while smile

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 26-Feb-13 19:57:16

Art sorry you are ill. This virus seems to be particularly nasty. I'm not over it yet either after a week and half. The sinubpressure had now shifted to my ear. I feel your pain!

Ng you poor love! Can you not go and stay at your parents house and get in laws to help out. Do they live near your parents? Could DH stay at home for a bit to help out? sad.

seven grin at kitchen! Ours is being fitted on Saturday. Worktops next week. I am so stupidly excited. We haven't emptied te old one yet and now I panicking slightly. My DH is deluded. He thinks it'll take minutes (we have a messy and big kitchen). He also hadn't organised a skip, believing that the people fitting the kitchen will have done. Of course he hadn't checked. I can see the weekend being slightly stressful. How do you guys manage workmen? Do you stay in or leave them to it? It's not something I have much experience with as we've never had the money before to pay people to do things!

Heartburn is now here. Had it horribly last time. I must stick up on antacids. I am also hungry constantly. I am very worried about the weight I must be gaining. I lost 3 lb last week when I'll. I've now put that back on and another 3lbs!!! Wtf?! In just a few days?!


MaybeAMayBaby Tue 26-Feb-13 19:59:47

What is with all the typos! Sorry. Especially all the tense confusion.

Art Hope you feel better soon.Its horrid being ill and pregnant I actually cried a few months ago when I had that cold.

Ng Sorry you are having a rubbish time of it.Are there any childminders or sitters you can use.When I was a single parent I had no one to have the kids and although I've always lived over here its lonely when you can't have a social life and hard with no break.So I would squirrel away a few pound each week and the boys went to a childminder who actually offered over night stays at her house.
How old is your little one?

I have not done my thighs or general weight gain any good.Just back from a cake tasting.Wow the cakes were amazing and that's something now ticked off the wedding to do list.smile

Westie very interesting about the weighted blankets.My ds1 finds it very difficult to sleep I think he has to clear his head each night before dropping off and go through the days events which can take some time.Also I check in the kids before I go to bed and always have to pull his quilt off from over his head.Even in his sleep he pulls it straight back up and all around him.Ive never thought anything of it before.Hmmm wonder if he would benefit from a weighted blanket.

I love this thread smile

Rhienne Wed 27-Feb-13 01:31:55

Hi all. This thread is moving so fast! So many things to recognise and comment on...

I'm back to eating all the time, but only a little at a time. And nauseous if I don't. sad

Ng I know you said you don't know many people locally, but if there's anyone you can ask for help who is local, speaks the local lingo and gets the "system" (more 'how to talk to officials', than knowing the relevant rules), drag them into the relevant offices and get them to sort out your DD's number. That's what it took for me to get anywhere when I had an issue with french bureacracy, and it was all sorted that day... Finally. ;(

It's still cold here, and where they didn't plough/sweep the snow away, it's all compacted into ice. The forecourt of my office building is one big sheet of grubby ice, so I have to wear granny-crampons everywhere. This time of year is what I call "fake weather" because the sun shines brightly on the windows, making me think it's warm, then you step outside and it's actually still bitterly cold. Blah! Very jealous of those who've mentioned anything about spring or warmth.

DS climbed out of his cot for the first time tonight. The standard banging noises from the bedroom turned into bang, bang bang, thump, waaaah, patter patter patter, creak, opening door! I made DH take the side off the cot at 23:30 before I let him shift DS from his half of our bed... We'll see how many times DS rolls over, falls out of bed, wakes up and comes to find us!

I splurged tonight on 3 comforter animals for the LO. We managed to get DS to fix on a comforter animal that's easy to wash and small to transport and we have three of them so one at daycare, one at home, one in the wash/clean. Hope we can do the same for LO, but I'm betting he's going to fix on something non-washable and non-replaceable, just to teach us for being smug about DS's!

Rhienne Wed 27-Feb-13 01:32:25

Seven can you please PM me about the FB group? Tx

ng1412 Wed 27-Feb-13 08:13:22

Ah thanks all, it is all a bit difficult because of the fact we are in a tiny village, our fault, we should have bought a house near a town but we didn't and we are stuck!

Having my hair cut on Saturday at Aveda, spoiling myself, so will have a couple of hours rest. Then my DH has agreed to look after DD next Saturday as there are swimming sessions for pregnant ladies at our local pool then. And the weather is hopefully picking up next week, it can't stay like this forever!

Beaut my DD is coming up to 2 in May. Been teething recently so been tough!

Berri any more snow? It is snowing here...agh

Rhienne how old is your DS?

Ng I asked as when I was on my own with my two at around that age and ill for any reason.I would just get in plenty of snacks,DVDs and leave them to it a lil bit whilst I would snooze/rest on the sofa.I just used to put all their toys around them and the stair gate up so I knew they were safe.

Gosh thinking back my two were so good.Just hope this one is as well smile

Had my midwife appointment today.Poor woman I rambled on and on.Im measuring exact on dates, super strong heart beat and she thinks baby is head down at the moment.Thats probably why my movements have felt restricted as I'm pretty sure he was lying across before.

Only part I hated was my bloods arm is still aching hmm.I got my matb1 form though.Whats the next step do I have to send away for the maternity pay form ?

WestieMamma Wed 27-Feb-13 10:45:08

You may have already seen this if you're subscribed to the NHS pregnancy service, but just in case you haven't, here is a website where you can morph your and your partner's photos to get a picture of what your baby will be like.


Have fun.

shelly81 Wed 27-Feb-13 11:12:58

Hey all ......do any of you ladies have sure start childrens centre near where you live ??? Xxx

Artichook Wed 27-Feb-13 11:20:55

I have several Shelley. Why do you ask? I think that cuts have resulted in some of their services being reduced which is sad. After DD2 was born I did a great baby massage course with Sure Start.

Still really ill. On the bright side I've lost 3lbs!

Rhienne Wed 27-Feb-13 11:22:21

ng my DS turns 2 in a couple of weeks.

MrsCobes44 Wed 27-Feb-13 11:22:21

Hello all

Just adding myself to the group- I've just been catching up on all the threads. I am expecting DC2 on 24th May so I have my 28 week appt with the midwife on Friday. I'm looking forward to hearing the baby's heart beat again grin)

DS1 will just have turned 3 after DC2 is born- he is adament that we are having a girl!!

Please can someone PM me the Facebook group when they have time. I didn't even know MN existed with my first pregnancy so it's nice having somewhere to hear other people's experiences this time round!

Thanks very much

shelly81 Wed 27-Feb-13 12:00:04

arti I work in one that's all just wondered if any of you ladies had heard of/used them. Some have been hit really hard by the cuts luckily we haven't been hit too bad at the minute. Xx

Ellypoo Wed 27-Feb-13 12:06:26

beaut if you look on https://www.gov.uk/maternity-allowance that should give you the info about applying for your maternity allowance, there will be a form and you will need to return it with your MATB1.

Got scan & consultant appointment on Friday - hopefully will get the date for my section then, which will give me a date to work towards, struggling with anxiety at the moment although work is kind of taking my mind off it a bit I suppose.

Hope those of you struggling/not feeling well feel better v soon. I am having rubbish sleep, am constantly eating (if I'm not then I get bad heartburn), and in a lot of pain with back & pelvis, so it's worse in a lot of ways that 1st trimester, I have also got that all-consuming tiredness but as i can't get comfy in bed it's even worse!!!


Zorra Wed 27-Feb-13 12:17:33

Thanks for the brew and sympathy! I'm the Country Director of a charity which works with children who are affected by war, which is why I'm in Sudan. It can be very intense, and I find it even more so since I had DS and started to 'feel' children's issues more... Not sure how long I can do it for to be honest (especially as it's very stressful, with very very long hours), but it's been satisfying so far. DS has enjoyed Sudan, especially the camels! I just wish that I could come home for a few months and have the baby without locking horns with the HMRC, but I understand how they have to assess people. Bah!

28 weeks today, lots of tickly movement (I have an anterior placenta so not feeling everything) and heartburn but not much else exciting to report! Got my scan and 28 week tests next week which is exciting and always a little nerve-wracking. Hope you ladies are all well smile

NG have you tried posting in the Living Overseas section? There might be some other Mumsnetters that live near you. There are loads of us in Belgium and NL, we have a Facebook group and have meet ups from time to time. It's been such a massive help to me. Think how many expats there are on this board alone - it might be worth a try?

ng1412 Wed 27-Feb-13 15:00:24

Hi Mamma I hadn't thought of doing that, I am sure there must be some mums here that I haven't met yet!

Try starting a new thread here

Shelly Are you a nursery care worker.I would love to get into working with children in some way.Even if its the admin side in a centre.

Can't say I know a lot about sure start centres just that despite being a village we actually have one heregrinLike I mentioned up thread the pre natal care here is pretty much non existent.However,I do believe that most of the post natal care here is good and that all babies checks etc are carried out at the sure start.

Bunnychan Wed 27-Feb-13 18:36:04

All my midwife appointments are at the local sure start centre. It's a lovely little place and I'm looking forward to going to groups there with my LO. I feel like I'm creeping back into the first trimester too; my spots and clumisness are returning as well my tiredness. Think I managed to glow for about a week a few weeks ago :-( x

I too feel first trimester again (well from previous pregnancies as I wasn't bad this pregnancy).My skin has a few blemishes for the first time this pregnancy and is super dry,flaky and dull looking.I keep getting told I look well.Now that I've put on another 3lb I think people just mean fat.

I have felt really uncomfortable this week.Like I'm so full of baby.Really achy pains under my bust.I was told today baby is in head down position which I had kind if guessed. When I was pregnant with ds2 he constantly wedged a foot under my ribs on the right.My ribs have stuck out more that side ever since.Ive just realised today that all the general aches and uncomfort I've been feeling are because I have a feeling ds 3 has found that lovely gaphmm

The only glow I've experience with this pregnancy has come from going pink with anger at DH. I've been waking up in the middle of the night completely raging at him for no reason, unable to get back to sleep because I hate him so much!

Glad you mentioned clumsiness Bunny my fingers seem to have lost all their grip, I didn't thing it could be to do with pregnancy. Amazing how something changing in one part of your body affects just about every other part of it.

29+2 and it's dragging now.

berri Wed 27-Feb-13 19:42:33

ng yes its still coming down! Not as deep as expected though and thank goodness we have a clearing service so I can get the car in & out! On the bright side it's not as cold when it snows.

shelly I love the surestart centres, there's nothing like that in the usa and I really miss it! Our local one was fantastic after I'd had DS.

zorra what a worthwhile job you do - hat off to you!

Hi MrsC smile

berri Wed 27-Feb-13 19:43:33

PS westie that website is hilarious!

Elly Forgot to say thank you for the link smile

Westie I'm about to look at the site haha

Boodstress Wed 27-Feb-13 20:18:49

Evening all! My low back ache seems to have passed but gave me a fright. I think it's the way I'm carrying this time which is very high, I can fit into my fat day jeans but I have put on a stone and half so it's all big under my mono boob so I'm really breathless with constant heart burn and latest one is bright flushing cheeks which is really obvious in my deathly pale state but.. No spots :-) small mercies. This baby is so strong and the movement so acute. I don't remember either of my last pregnancies having so much room to kick and push at 31 was which I am Friday. Boring you all with symptoms in case anyone has the same and wants to moan a long grin

Very over being pregnant now!

aberjen Wed 27-Feb-13 20:30:46

Well, as rubbish as it is that there are others of you feeling crappy, it's nice to know I'm not the only one who has regressed (misery loves company)

Hello mrs smile

Bood do you find it more kind of alien of that makes sense this time around.This is my third and it feels a lot stranger compared to first two.I feel way more movement and like you say so early as well.

I know I'm older this time but I also had more energy at this stage before.I didn't moan as much about being uncomfortable at this stage if at all.I thought nothing of going to work and getting on with things wheras this time everything's an effort

Boodstress Wed 27-Feb-13 20:44:58

My first was busy beaut and then my second was quiet but this one is very strong. Memory fades symptoms of course and I am older - although not by much. I am actually freaking out at some of the movement though and it really hurts. I don't think you ever adjust to it - it's always bloomin' mind blowing IMHO.
Someone told me busy in the womb = quiet baby so I am hanging onto that. :-))

SevenReasonsToSmile Wed 27-Feb-13 21:26:05

Hi mrscobes. There's a stats thread in ante-natal groups, feel free to add yourself on there.

Thanks to those who asked about the kitchen. As its a garage conversion they haven't needed access to the house much, only really to get water for the plaster and for the plumber to add the radiator pipes onto the existing onto the existing ones, they're knocking through tomorrow though. Also I'm a SAHM so I'm often here anyway.

bood my DD was very active in the womb and even more so out of it, she even rolled at 9 weeks and crawled at 6 months. This one is much calmer so I'm hoping she'll be calmer than my crazy DD.

Sorry to all of those suffering with illness and discomfort. I've got my voice back now but I'm still full of cold.

scooby26 Wed 27-Feb-13 22:01:37

Hi all

I need to join team moan....

I am 27w 5d and had midwife appt today. She is soo useless it's unreal. I was very distracted and forgot to ask about whooping cough jab and ask for matb- needless to say she didn't bother mentioning either!

She said she can't work out which way baby is lying... Maybe head down ( she's so clueless)

We briefly discussed group b strep ( which I had previous pregnancy. But again she had no answers.... She was like this last time too..

So came away just thinkin what a complete waste of time. I am measuring 28 weeks and had glucose in urine.

I've had a frankly s@@t week. I keep losing m temper with DH - he seems to live on another planet... Such as thinking its ok to arrange a non urgent house fix job for 8am on my day off / DS 3rd birthday... He just never seems to think...

This baby does not lie still and is playing havoc with my sleep and bladder ( when coughing) I'm quite fed up- defo wasn't like this last time.... Must be a girl!

I'm off before I whine anymore- sorry!

Boodstress Wed 27-Feb-13 22:02:36

Oh no seven I've had two crazy boys, early crawlers & walkers ... I was hoping for a bookish sort that will sit in the corner grin

WestieMamma Wed 27-Feb-13 22:05:07

My baby will apparantly look like a cherub. My daughter tried it out to see what she and her boyfriend would produce. Their baby would look like a serial killer. grin

Wirrawoo Wed 27-Feb-13 22:20:34

Oh scooby I'm sorry you had a rubbish time. Totally sympathise. Maybe you can make an appointment with your GP to talk about some of these things? Have just made one for whooping cough jab and to confirm exactly what the deal is with strep B labour. In the meantime, have a hug from me and a cup of tea brew thanks

Am wondering if OBEM is an accurate depiction of what labours are like or if they choose the more dramatic ones? One thing is for sure, if I cry this much at a tv show every time a baby is born, what on earth is going to happen when we see our own baby?!? He is kick kick kicking away in there, must still have enough room in there because he's always on the move grin. Just had an OMG epiphany that in 9 weeks or so we will forever have a child. Head spin! It feels exciting but scary because of the unknownness of it. A bit like standing on the top of a diving board! DP is seriously excited smile am so glad, my first instinct is always to make sure he's ok and not freaking out, but someone may have to do that for me soon too!
Not nauseous at all, but the dreaded varicose veins seem to be suddenly threatening to take over my left leg. Dammit!!
Hope all you ladies suffering with colds and bugs feel better soon and welcome to the new people xx

Catchingmockingbirds Thu 28-Feb-13 00:12:16

beaut ds has some sleep problems too, his OT suggested trying him with just an extra blanket over the top of his duvet or a heavier duvet if possible before trying him with a weighted blanket. I put his sensory light on pointed to the ceiling at night now as he goes to bed and it really helps him fall asleep, he finds it difficult to lie with his eyes closed and needs to keep them open until he falls asleep so he lies in bed and watches his light on the ceiling and it relaxes him and he's able to fall asleep. The double duvet works well for keeping him asleep and stops him waking up as often during the night and I open the window in his bedroom if I think he's getting too hot.

CheerfulYank Thu 28-Feb-13 05:32:32

Ugh. All poorly in some way at chez Cheerful. DS had his kindergarten inoculations today-four on all. He felt fine earlier but it very achey now, poor thing. sad DH carried him to bed and hurt his (already sore) back. I had an awful headache earlier so I took some ppainkillers, went to sleep for a bit...and woke up with an awful sore throat. I'm trying hot lemon water on it, it really hurts! Sigh. Even the dog is crying and scratching at his ears. Arrgh!

My mom is coming to visit Sunday-Tuesday and I'm already a bit apprehensive. I love her to bits, she's so funny and adores DS, and can be very helpful (she plans to paint while she's here, yay, and is here to watch DS b/c I have a 3 hour long appt with my doctor on Monday) but she can also be extremely pushy. And despairs of my, as she calls it, "relaxed attitude" toward life. <deep breath> I'm practicing saying "remember, you had your babies. You were in control then." smile

Bood I am also hoping for a calm one! DS is a bit of a live wire. And he never, ever, ever stops talking. People think I'm joking until they meet him. I don't know how he even breathes sometimes!

Zorra Thu 28-Feb-13 06:40:38

Sorry for everyone feeling rubbish sad Been up since 5.30am with cramp in both legs, so I feel your pain! Wishing everyone a cheerful and ache-free day x

Artichook Thu 28-Feb-13 09:42:34

Zorra - let cramps are awful. Have you tried a magnesium supplement (if you can get them over there)? I was really suffering and was told to eat a daily banana and take a magnesium supplement and it seems to have really, really helped. Drinking lots is important too as cramps can be a sign of dehydration.

beaver33 Thu 28-Feb-13 10:19:03

hey y'all, sorry to hear so many of you are feeling crappy. Feel like a bit of a fraud in that I'm kinda ok for the moment, if getting pretty tired. Haven't taken any time off work since November (no holidays over Xmas/NY either) so it's beginning to drag....

I've been waiting to move house so I can take a week off and it HASN'T HAPPENED YET and it's driving me crazy. Four weeks ago we emailed questions to our vendor based on the outcome of our building survey and it's been silence ever since.

Been ringing our (very diligent) solicitor daily to find out what's going on and apparently the seller has returned the signed contracts but has still to respond to the questions. It means nothing has happened for four weeks. Nothing.

I need to move house. aaargh.


Catching This is why we need to move.The older two ds are now sharing a room which they love but I can't use ds1 sensory light as it keeps ds2 awake.ill try the extra blanket though.

Another one moaning here.I walk everywhere and it's really becoming difficult.Ive just got back from the shops and my bump is aching badly on the left side plus back is killing me.I just think its all the walking as I didn't do do much with first two. Oww I could cry sad

10storeylovesong Thu 28-Feb-13 14:33:29

Just a quick check in - been reading the thread but struggling to post. I've been listening to all your problems and although the circs are horrible I can't help but be glad I'm not pregnant any more. It just didn't agree with me. My midwives can't believe that the day after I was discharged I was walking the dog and clearing out the spare room. No issues whatsoever - I was all psyched up for that first wee they all warn you about - nothing! Absolutely fine!

bood Seb never stopped inside... And never stops outside. He keeps pulling out all his tubes, wriggling out of the positions the nurses put him in and kicking his pulse trace off his foot so they can't get a proper reading! He's tiring himself out that much that its causing problems as he doesn't have any energy left to allow him to come off the oxygen altogether which is his next step. On the plus side though, he's not supposed to have a sucking reflex until around 32+ weeks - he's 30 week today and they've had to give him a dummy as he was so desperate to suck! Very cute.

Boodstress Thu 28-Feb-13 16:20:55

great to hear an update 10. The constant movement is a blessing and a curse I guess. Ill bet that's why he's so strong now. The poor little munchkin tiring himself out and how amazing that's he's already got that sucking reflex.

My little one is now stretching so hard that I think I might burst -<possibly prone to exaggeration >
I got my whooping jab this morn after much consideration. I feel rotten and my arm weighs 350 tonnes <more exaggeration> I mentioned to the nurse that the last few days I've had sporadic back pain, puffiness & extreme tiredness and she popped into the midwife who was able to see me straightaway (amazing) who took some more bloods, did a urine test and talked through my symptoms. She said 2 boys 5 & 3 are going to make the pregnancy much more achey. Even though my iron is normal (my usual state is a condition with too much iron) it may help to eat more steak & spinach etc. as well and I should be drinking vast amounts more than I am. 'Go and get some proper rest' How FFS... Still glad I saw her and she'll see me again week after next. She complained that the obst d

Boodstress Thu 28-Feb-13 16:21:49

... Doesn't realise the nessesity of the midwife visits! Next visit is feeding apparently!!

10 Lovely to hear from you. Sounds like Seb is still doing well and surprising them.

Has anyone else been continuing with any excercise throughout the pregnancy.I am generally very achy at the moment especially with walking. I'm ok when doing standing excercise but when I do my floor excercises my whole uterus area feels painful and crampy and I struggle to move at all on the floor whilst getting into different excercises.

Gosh no wonder I have no sex life at the moment blush

10 Lovely to hear from you. Sounds like Seb is still doing well and surprising them.

Has anyone else been continuing with any excercise throughout the pregnancy.I am generally very achy at the moment especially with walking. I'm ok when doing standing excercise but when I do my floor excercises my whole uterus area feels painful and crampy and I struggle to move at all on the floor whilst getting into different excercises.

Gosh no wonder I have no sex life at the moment blush

Boodstress Fri 01-Mar-13 09:31:47

Wish I could exercise Beaut. pelvic pain means I struggle to walk longer than a 100 yards, not even allowed swim but I can 'wAlk through the pool' confused I'm doing my pelvic floor a zillion times a day though.

lollypopsicle Fri 01-Mar-13 09:58:49

sounds like you're really struggling blood sad
beaut I'm doing aqua natal and yoga. I've found aqua natal great for feeling more supported around the bump and pelvis.
With the yoga, if anything is uncomfortable she will always give an alternative. The problem with classes is the expense. both are £7 a session.
have you tried a pregnancy Pilate's DVD? I know a few ppl who have recommended them in the third tri.

had my 28 WK appt yesterday and despite me feeling and looking like a whale, I'm measuring way below the 10th centile for fundal height so I have to have a growth scan today. I had this problem last time but DS was 9lb in the end so hoping its just the way I carry rather than something wrong.

Had a funny moment at work on wed too where my vision went blurry and I felt disoriented and got very flushed. My blood pressure is fine but midwife said get my iron levels checked so got blood tests later today, too. I
hate blood tests.

good to hear news of baby Seb, 10.

28+1 ( third trimester , whoooo!)

lollypopsicle Fri 01-Mar-13 09:59:53

sorry, bood autocorrect for you!

Lolly No I have a pre natal DVD which I'm doing.Ill look at Pilates one sounds good.Thanks.

I think I may have found the reason for super uncomfortable bump.My youngest was sick all through night and Ive woken with a tummy bug.In agony with cramps.Strange as baby is moving loads which makes my tummy feel worse but least I know he's ok.I have my 4d tomorrow and no way I'm cancelling again.So me and the boys are having a duvet day

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 01-Mar-13 11:11:16

beaut sorry to hear about the stomach bug, enjoy your duvet day and hope you feel better for the scan tomorrow.

lolly hope the growth scan is ok. I guess it's reassuring though that you had a similar problem before and all was fine.

10 I love to hear your updates, sounds like he's doing really well.

Sorry to everyone I haven't mentioned who's feeling poorly. I'm now on day 9 of having a cough and cold. The cough does seem to be on the mend now but I'm getting more congested if anything.

The builders knocked through into the hallway yesterday. We just have an archway into the dining room though rather than a door so of course everything was coated with a thick layer of dust. I spent nearly 3 hours cleaning everything yesterday afternoon, I'm aching a bit today, and have a million loads of washing to do as we couldn't get to the machine yesterday, plus we accidentally left all the bedroom doors open so all the beds needed changing too.

Seven Thank you I hope you feel better soon.So much going around at moment.

Lolly forgot to say I had the same problem with ds1.I was packed off to hospital on numerous occasions as was measuring small for dates.The final doctor I saw told the midwifes to stop sending me.He said yes you are small for dates but not so small it's concerning,you are just having a small baby.Ds1 was a perfectly healthy baby weighing in at just over 6lbs smile

Ellypoo Fri 01-Mar-13 18:36:34

I hope your growth scan was ok lolly.

Beaut sorry you have a horrid bug, I hope you feel better very soon & that it doesn't affect your 4D scan tomorrow.

Seven, that sounds horrid, I hope you start feeling better really soon & that the builders fit a door so you have a lot less dust, sounds awful, hate the way it just gets everywhere.

Had growth scan today, all looking ok so far, and my cons has booked me in for section on 10th April - I was hoping that it would be then, had to argue to get it because she wanted it later but I got there in the end! Will be 36+1 by then, 5 weeks on wed - officially on countdown now grin

Hi to everyone - hope you are feeling ok xx


lollypopsicle Fri 01-Mar-13 20:01:05

Wow, not long til you meet your baby then elly 10th April is no time at all smile

Growth scan went well. Thanks for the well wishes. Baby measures bang on for length/circumferences etc. Weight wise, she does weigh on the low side of normal but still within range so they were happy. It was lovely to see her again. I can say 'her' now as the sonographer had a better view this time and thinks it's a girl which confirmed what we thought.

Hope all of you feeling under the weather start to feel better soon. I've managed to escape illness lately, despite DS and DP suffering with lurgies.

Now it's march, May seems so much closer than yesterday grin

shelly81 Fri 01-Mar-13 20:24:27

I want to kill my DP he's such a selfish arsehole argghhhhhhhhhhhhhh ............ Rant over sorry ladies I'm experiencing some really bad pregnancy rage & cud very easily murser him then laugh xxx

shelly81 Fri 01-Mar-13 20:24:55

*murder argghhhhh fat fingers alert !!!!! Xx

Shelly oh dear what's he done? I kind of feel like that to.Dp has had to stay over at work and won't be back until tomorrow afternoon.I always knew he would be away for his job but I honestly feel like a single parent all over again.I haven't seen him since 4am Monday morning hmm

WestieMamma Fri 01-Mar-13 21:08:16

Had a bit of a bad today sad

I haven't felt the baby move much over the last couple of days and was starting to worry. Agonised over whether to wait till Monday's appointment or talk to someone today. I can't bear the thought of being a nuisance but eventually decided I rather be that than ignore something which shouldn't be ignore.

So I rang the general advice line who told me to ring the hospital immediately. The hospital told me to come in straight away which completely freaked me out. Cue floods of tears and stress.

Anyway, baby is completely fine. They monitored his heart and did a scan, all fine. Except he's playing silly buggers. Instead of being head down, eyes front. He's sat upright, head right under my ribs which explains the pain I've been having there, and is facing backwards. This is why I can't feel much. I suspect he's been in the upright position for a couple of weeks but turned to the back just a few days ago.

MaybeAMayBaby Fri 01-Mar-13 21:48:44

Sorry easy you've got a reason for the pain now, Westie. Little monkeys! It's started already.

Lolly gla all is well. I don't get this estimated weight thing. My LO is 'underweight' too, but which measurement do they use to estimate weight? Is it head circumf? As that's the only measurement under on my growth charts. All very confusing.

I've got a lesson obs next week with the head. And it just do happens to be on 'ultrsound'! I've got my 4D scan tomorrow too beaut. Good luck. Mine isn't until 4pm. What is 4D anyway? What the 4th dimension? Time? As in video? confused.

Elly- 10th April?! Bloody hell. I've just realised I've only got 9 weeks left and was scared, but I guess you win! I'm going to bring up having an elective next week and see what they say. I think induction and section will be 7th May.


Maybe ill most definitely be thinking of you when I have my scan as mines at 4pm too.Hope yours goes well.I will be drinking my lucozade beforehand.We get an hours appointment with DVD and lots of pics.Plus an estimated weight.gringrinCan you tell I'm excited

Catchingmockingbirds Sat 02-Mar-13 04:02:26

Anyone else miss getting a full night of uninterrupted sleep?

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 02-Mar-13 05:31:09

hi catching I'm up too! Flipping DD, little pickle, was charging around at 4am (it's her 4th birthday party tomorrow/today so she's a bit excited) and I can't get back to sleep. The baby started kicking very rhythmically, like the ticking of a clock, it went on for about 15 mins and really freaked me out!!! So I just decided to get up. And I've lost my wedding ring. Ok moan over.

Hope everyone else is ok

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 02-Mar-13 05:34:19

beaut I'm not doing much exercise, can't really walk much, more like a hobble at the mo. Depends on the pelvis on that day. I did go to a yoga class a few times and that was lovely but on a bad day I just don't feel like it. Got a physio appt for 2 weeks away, which is great. Can't remember who's been waiting for 2.5 months, but that is really really rubbish! Are they just waiting for you to give birth so they can get you off their waiting list???!!!

CheerfulYank Sat 02-Mar-13 05:36:37

Westie that happened to me with my first! He hadn't moved all day and they were insistent I come in immediately. I was terrified but he was fine.

Catchingmockingbirds Sat 02-Mar-13 07:40:40

That sounds like big baby hiccups taz smile. I wake up now during the nigt every night as I'm uncomfy and sore, I miss going to sleep and waking up in the morning rested. She must be getting me into practice for all the sleepless nights I'll have when she's born.

Ellypoo Sat 02-Mar-13 08:14:55

Ooh good luck with the4d scans today beaut & maybe!!! So exciting!!

No exercise here either, can barely walk and swimming will make it worse hmm

I love baby hiccups - they feel so funny don't they!

I was getting some quite sharp pains on thurs eve & fri am, was worried about it as they were just on the right side, really quite low down under bump - turns out that's where head is at mo and as he/she turns it a bit it must have been pressing on a nerve! Glad it's nothing sinister but was a bit scary!

5 wks on wed - proper countdown now!!!

Is anyone up to anything exciting this weekend? Am having my hair done this lunchtime, but I think that's pretty much it, am shattered for a change!!!

Catchingmockingbirds Sat 02-Mar-13 08:28:29

elly the exact same thing happened to me, but on my left side. It was just ligament pain, all that panic for nothing. We're trying to get the house done up before the arrival of baby so we're heading to b&q to pick out wallpaper and then go and look at carpets.

5 weeks, how exciting for you! I've still another 12 weeks left.

Boodstress Sat 02-Mar-13 09:04:08

I can't believe some are due in 5 weeks - are they early sections for medical reasons? Im so excited to start hearing news of all your arrivals. I'm due a section last week in April but they won't give me a date until the appointment on the 10th April which is a pain. I'm going to push the pelvic dysfunction and try and get as early as possible in that week to try and avoid the baby getting as big as my term plus babies. I can almost cup the whole baby in my hands - it's really bizarre. Hope there's enough fluid ( latest paranoia)

To those wanting to murder other halfs, I felt like that during the week but he has just given me the lie in, made me breakfast in bed and is running me a bath as I type... I'm so glad I didn't murder him. grin

Catchingmockingbirds Sat 02-Mar-13 09:39:25

"I'm so glad I didn't murder him"

grin hahaha.

Rhienne Sat 02-Mar-13 09:43:23

Hi Catching. I am soooo looking forward to sleeping through the night. Sometime around November hopefully!

Since DS climbed out of his cot and we took the side off, we've had veeerrry long evenings getting him to sleep, and disturbed nights as he comes crying to find us every time he falls out. Thursday was about 6 times until DH (who'd been very anti the concept) hauled him into our bed, and last night about 3 times. The worst is that I can't get back to sleep after he's woken me, and even if DH resettles him, the sound of his cries wakes me.

And we get to do this all over again when his junior bed turns up in a couple of weeks, I guess.

I was hoping to introduce all the necessary changes in his life slowly over these coming months, but if it takes him a couple of weeks to get used to each change, his life is going to be one long upset for the next few months. sad

Tas - hope you find your wedding ring again. I'd be really upset if I misplaced mine.

I'm quite uncomfortable. My lower back is struggling and yesterday a hip went funny and I could barely take any weight on that leg. My "overdoing it" limit is getting very low... I think LO is head down. Don't know if it's just turning around or scratching his/her nose or what, but sometimes it feels very strange down there. Like someone is scraping the inside of my pelvic bones. hmm.

Boodstress Sat 02-Mar-13 10:03:53

rhienne my experience is very similar and equally strange. It's like someone's tapping my hipbone sometimes.
Before we got DS 2 into a big boy bed we took the sides off cot bed and wrapped a single bed sheet the whole way round the bed under the mattress as well and that stopped him falling - might be worth a try x

Ellypoo Sat 02-Mar-13 11:02:46

Bood yes I am having an early section at 36+1 which is why it's so early!

Hopefully he'll get used to not having sides on his bed by the time his big boy bed comes fx!

Ooh enjoy wallpaper & carpet shopping seven - that's the fun bit!!!

I didn't realise so many of you on here were having a section.Makes me wonder if I should have pushed for one.I definitely don't want forceps or ventouse intervention.I just thought recovery wise I would be better off not going for one.Hmmmmmm

beaver33 Sat 02-Mar-13 13:02:05

OMG just saw there's a November 2013 thread. I must be REALLY pregnant blush.

We've come so far!

Hope 4D scans go well, Beaut and Maybe - would love to hear about them.

I get a growth scan at 32 weeks - 2 weeks time - so looking forward to that.

Feeling really....happy....at the moment, weirdly. I know that shouldn't be weird, but I wonder if I've had a dose of chilled out hormones as recently I've been really angry and riled up. Now I just feel.....zen-like. Beatific. At one.

Until someone p*sses me off.

Rhienne Sat 02-Mar-13 14:29:46

Yeah. DS's junior bed is here! The baby shop rang and DH went and collected it while DS and I both had afternoon naps. Now we just need to put it all together.

Hopefully he'll stay in it a little better, as it has rails on the top half.

Aaarrghhh I'm in the 'wanting to murder DP' camp for sure today hmm

Rhienne Sat 02-Mar-13 15:55:34

Hmphf. It was the wrong model bed! And since we had to order it in, I guess it's going to be weeks until they get the right model in again. I'm too tired and hormonal to deal with these things without overreacting. angry

4d scan was amazing. He is definitely a he no mistaking. He has a cute chubby lil face.Was being his usual awkward self and not moving much for the scan he was snuggled between my uterine wall and the placenta with the cord on his nose.Was licking and holding his cord. Looks like he has massive feet. I don't know where that's from as Dp is a size 9 and I'm a 4. So much for the midwife saying baby is measuring small for dates but he's 3lb already shock

MaybeAMayBaby Sat 02-Mar-13 19:41:57

Glad it went well, beaut. Ours wasn't such good news.
Pretty certain my placenta is failing. The cord resistance was high confused and baby has dropped to 4th percentile. The dr spent an hour doing measurement and checking blood flow. Baby IS a girl and she has grown from 2 weeks ago, but at a slower rate.
She was jumping around like a nutter so taking some readings was difficult. Couldn't get any pic as she refused to move her fce from the uterus wall. Have to go back on Thursday for another try.

Looks like this one will be even earlier than 38 weeks. He wants me to go in Monday despite a scan and appt on Tuesday. Might even call DAU tomorrow.

Rhienne Sat 02-Mar-13 20:08:55

Hi Maybe. That sounds really scary. Very glad to hear that they are keeping a close eye on you.

Ellypoo Sat 02-Mar-13 20:56:51

Crikey that sounds really scary - so glad you went for the scan today. What are they likely to do? Just monitor? This is part of the reason I'm having so many scans - to check the function of the placenta.

SevenReasonsToSmile Sat 02-Mar-13 23:35:53

That does sound scary maybe, glad they're taking it seriously. Try not to worry yourself too much over the weekend until you've had your next appointment.

I've got a growth scan at 28 weeks in 10 days time, feels like I'm so far behind some of you. I'm expecting LO to make an early arrival around 36 weeks but it'll still be the start of May.

Maybe Sorry yours didnt go so well but like others have said its a good job you went. I'm sure everything will be fine and the doctors will do whatever they need to.

berri Sun 03-Mar-13 16:20:26

Let us know how you get on maybe, sending positive thoughts your way.

Boodstress Sun 03-Mar-13 17:27:21

Hope all ok Maybe, you're very far down the road now so I'm sure no matter what it will be ok but sending lots of positive thoughts. Rest as much as possible. My arm is still very sore from whooping cough jab and I have a bright red patch on my upper arm that is very hot to the touch - did anyone else have this? Hope it's ok.

Happy Sunday all!

Rhienne Sun 03-Mar-13 20:56:51

Hope everything's ok Maybe.

Over here there's reasonably good news. DS seems to have decided he can fall asleep in his cot, even with the side off. Now if we can just stop him falling out and going clunk on the floor and coming crying in to us several times a night, it'll be great!

61 days to edd and counting!

roastpotatoes Sun 03-Mar-13 21:10:38

63 days to go until EDD for me - how exciting!

Sorry to hear that the scan was a bit worrying maybe. But it's great that they have picked up that there is something going on. Sounds like you will get lots of attention and they will know what's best. I hope you're doing OK.

bood my arm was a bit sore after the WC jab, but didn't swell up. However, I know other people who has some redness and swelling so I think it is probably normal. I hope it gets better soon.

Hope you get a better night's sleep tonight rhienne!

10storeylovesong Sun 03-Mar-13 21:14:01

Thinking of you maybe. Sorry if I've missed it, but how far along are you now? There was a girl in the bed next to me who's placenta had disintegrated and they'd kept her going for a number of weeks, carefully monitoring the baby. Obviously it's scary but there's lots they can do now to help with these things. Fingers crossed its not as bad as you think x

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 04-Mar-13 07:15:19

Thanks everyone. Baby still moving lots. I'm hopefully going in this morning. 10 that I reassuring. Baby has grown since last scan (two weeks ago) so placenta is still going but struggling. I'm 29 week today. It all doesn't really feel like its happening to me. Bit surreal. But 10 you have given me hope. My main concern isn't really gestation as i know 29 weeks isn't the end of the world-but she'll be much smaller. She was jus under 2lb on scan. Isn't that two-3 weeks behind?

Haven't had wc jab. And I didn't have it as a child sad. Do I request it today?

10storeylovesong Mon 04-Mar-13 07:20:04

Those weight scans are notorious for being inaccurate. From what I can see gestation is more important - there's a baby in the unit next to Seb who was 30 weeks at birth. He weighs the same as Seb, but was only in the incubator for one night and didn't need any ventilation at all. He's not attached to any monitors and is even trying to breastfeed. He's so much further along than Seb, even though he had a small birth weight.

MooLL Mon 04-Mar-13 07:55:49

maybe so sorry to hear your news ... Is it pre eclampsia related? Happened to me at 30 weeks last time as baby slowed down - they kept me going with twice weekly monitoring at DAU until week 36 when she was 4 1/2 lbs ... Main thing is they have spotted it so you are now in safe hands.

We have our growth scan on we'd as my consultant concerned my pe is coming back this time - but my blood pressure checks at home show all is fine - so hope she is just being a worrier!

Finally placed up courage to jump on scales at mil this weekend - shocked to find I've lost 6 kgs since my 12 week check in appointment - bless you morning sickness and flu - hopefully mean tge weight loss post baby will be less of a chore this time!

Is anyone else back exhausted again - I keep falling asleep post lunch (including at mil's house where I conked out on the sofa and started snoring in front of her post Saturday lunch!!) nice :-)

WestieMamma Mon 04-Mar-13 08:16:46

shock We're counting down the time remaining in days now rather than weeks or months. Yikes.

58 days to go. shock

beaver33 Mon 04-Mar-13 09:44:42

Oh Maybe what a frustrating thing to happen at your scan! Still, how fortunate that you booked it otherwise you wouldn't have known and none of this specialist care would be happening. Take good care and keep us updated. It's a great sign she's still wriggling around and, like 10 says, gestation is so important. You're nearly there. thanks

Off for my whooping cough jab today and slightly confused by all the stories of swollen and painful arms! Eek.

Anyone started NCT yet? Our first class is next Monday...not sure what to expect but hoping to meet some lovely ladies.

30 weeks today! grin

ng1412 Mon 04-Mar-13 10:33:10

Sorry to hear that Maybe but yes thank goodness you have regular scans and yeah! to baby still growing.

I am not feeling too many moves from my LO, have scan and gyne appt tomorrow so a bit nervous....

TerracottaPie Mon 04-Mar-13 12:58:45

Hi all,

I've been keeping up with your news but then every time I go to post I either get distracted or feel like I'm going to whinge and moan too much so I don't.

10 still thinking of you and Seb lots x

And maybe fingers crossed for good news. Hope things are at least a bit clearer for you by now x

WC jabs - another one here that had a sore arm. Sore enough to not lay on it for a couple of nights!

I'm currently doing very good impressions of a penguin. And also my 14mo toddler apparently. Walking hurts so much. As does most movements. GP signed me off for 3 more weeks as my job really isn't compatible with this. So that will be 6 weeks off by the time this note runs out. Not really feeling like I'm going to get back to work at all by at this rate before maternity leave kicks in. They'll enforce mat leave starting at 36 weeks anyway if I'm still off with PGP.

Fed up with it all and feel bad moaning as I know things could be so much more complicated. Just feel like I'm not being a very good mummy right now to DS. He doesn't understand at all about a baby coming or why I'm not able to do as much with him. And while my older 2 do understand it's not their fault or anything they should have to be concerned with. sad

I like this counting down the days idea. Will work mine out.....64 days.

Although in my head every time I work out how long to go I add on a couple of weeks so that I don't get my hopes up (not exactly known for going into labour on time!)

Oh and last thing, had a MW appt last week. No surprise to learn I'm currently measuring 3 weeks ahead. See her again at 34 weeks and if it's the same off for a growth scan and to check there's no polyhydramnios. Where I imagine I will learn I'm cooking a big one again. Will be nice to be told otherwise, but I think it helps me mentally to prepare for another big baby!

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 04-Mar-13 16:44:15

Well DAU was uneventful. Had a quick scan to check baby was ok-she is. Moving lots. MW had a word with the doctor and I'm to go back in tomorrow. She didn't do a Doppler scan, just a normal one. But did say everything looked fine.

Actually contemplating going in to work tomorrow! My appt isn't until 3pm. And we have workmen in fitting the kitchen so I can't relax at home.

I really feel for those of you with PGP/SPD. I had it last time and it was miserable. Have you tried the support belts? Who was it who was waiting a long time for physio? I had a phone call te day before induction giving me an appt for the following week! Complete waste Of time.

Catchingmockingbirds Mon 04-Mar-13 17:03:13

Im glad baby is wriggling around maybe, it must have been such a relief when the MW said everything was fine. I'm still waiting on a physio appointment! I've been in pain since about 4 months because of my hypermobility so made sure to try and get an early referral too hmm

TerracottaPie Mon 04-Mar-13 18:23:13

I'd chase your referral catching. When it was a week after the MW had referred me and I hadn't heard anything I rang. Ended up with an appointment a few hours later.

They'd posted the invite to make an appt letter to me about 2 working days after receiving the referral so I don't think it should be a long process.

maybe glad everything seemed ok today. What are they planning on doing with you tomorrow?

I have a support band. It was really helpful to start with, but is too uncomfortable to wear right now with how rotund I have become!

Boodstress Mon 04-Mar-13 20:07:51

I now have a tubbygrip Terra as I find the belt too uncomfortable and can't be worn in bed. The physio gave me 2 sizes, one for day and one for night although its all v warm and my pregnancy temp gauge is on high, hot and flushing most of the day.

My babies are big too but hoping for a little smaller as big bambinos make the PSD worse.

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 04-Mar-13 21:11:33

Glad the scan was ok maybe.

DH is off work this week to fit the kitchen. It was meant to be delivered tomorrow, they phoned to say some of it is out of stock (despite saying in stock online) and won't come until next Tuesday angry. Still at least it means he'll get the nursery done I guess, it suddenly feels like time is getting away from us!

roastpotatoes Tue 05-Mar-13 09:44:51

Great news that things looked OK yesterday maybe. Did you end up going to work today?

Mooll I'm completely exhausted. Really struggling to do more than an hour or so or work at a time. It doesn't help that I am writing a super boring report - would probably send me to sleep at the best of times! I hope your appt with the con goes well tomorrow and that there is no sign of PE.

Terracotta, I'm not surprised you feel like a moan - sounds like you're having a really tough time. It's no fun not being able to move around - especially with your other children to look after. I'm expecting my first, but just a few hours with my 2 year old niece at the weekend made me realise how challenging this would be with another one to look after as well. But you're on the home straight now... hang on in there. The sun is out, spring is on its way and so is your LO - things will be sooo much better in a few weeks time!

We still have quite a long list of things to get done... Most of the painting is finished but we need to get carpets laid throughout the house and put up curtains etc in the nursery. The biggest job is the garden, which is currently a building site. Hopefully dh is going to have time to lay a patio before the baby comes. I have visions of spending my mat leave sat outside enjoying the gorgeous summer that we are bound to have. But that won't be much fun if the garden is still a mud pit. 62 days to go.... surely that's plenty of time?!

How is everyone.We all seem to have various problems at the moment hmm

I'm not feeling great when walking I never had pains this early with last two I can only presume its because the muscles are weaker.

I've just booked my practical driving test for when I'm 37 weeks.I hope they take pity on me smile

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 05-Mar-13 11:16:25

No, I stayed at home. DH had already told them I wouldn't be in. I'm glad now. I'm exhausted.

37 weeks, beaut! Argh! Good luck. I can't imagine taking my driving test again-it was so nerve wracking and I've picked up loads of bad habits. Will they make you do an emergency stop do you think? Might be a bit cruel given how big you'd be.

Can't believe how many of you are suffering with walking etc. flowers.

Fingers crossed for everyone's appts today. There is a few of us I think?

aberjen Tue 05-Mar-13 12:52:28

Hi all,

maybe hope all goes well at your appointment today

beaut fingers crossed for your driving test when the time comes smile rather you than me! wink

seven how annoying! But hope the nursery bits are going well instead

Hello to everyone else too - sorry, thread moves so quickly!

Am another one who is knackered. Wake up at 3.30 am every day and then takes an hour or so to get back to sleep sad angry. Oh well, maybe I should consider it practice?!

Currently waiting for scan that was supposed to be at 12.30, then have consultant at 2.15 - suspect a long afternoon is ahead. Bored already. Good luck/fingers crossed for others with scans etc today!

roastpotatoes Tue 05-Mar-13 13:21:33

good luck with your scan and appt aber - hope it all looks good...

aberjen Tue 05-Mar-13 13:37:09

Thanks roast smile PS 62 days def plenty of time to get everything done she says optimistically !

Scan fine - was actually to keep an eye on ovarian cyst but sonography couldn't find ovary/cyst - said that in itself was a good sign, if it had grown lots couldn't help but see it on scan.

Bubs bang on for dates (28+5), all looks good and definitely a girl smile

Next stop, consultant.

Boodstress Tue 05-Mar-13 14:40:56

Quite envious of the scans - I'd love another peek. Someone said they didn't post too often cause they didn't want to be always moaning - I should take a leaf out of their books. Sorry!! All I do is moan at the moment. Sinus problems/ conjestion is now full blown sinusitis and they will give me nothing but a nasel wash vomitty thing ( not good when you have no gag reflex) dragging my self out to do the school run now ... Hate this flippin trimester.

Bood Dont be silly.Im the same I even drive myself mad with the moaning.I have so many aches and pains and I'm constantly out of breath.Cant believe I still have 10 weeks left.I wasn't like this with the first two all I can think is that's its because I'm older this time around and I walk more

Just catching up. Glad things looked OK on your scan Maybe, hope everyone else is OK not too achy & tired. Good luck with your driving test Beaut, have you told them you're PG? Hope they take that into account when deciding the route. You wouldn't want to have to go over loads of cobbles and bumps at 37 weeks!

I've just realised I've forgotten to go for my GTT, have Dr tomorrow so think I'll get a ticking off. Is 30 weeks too late? I'll have to go on Thursday.

TerracottaPie Tue 05-Mar-13 18:03:44

bood I said about not always posting because I would feel i was moaning constantly. Don't take a leaf out of my book at all! I've been holding it all in and ended up having a big emotional meltdown in the supermarket last week. Then sat in the car sobbing whilst waiting for DP and his dad to finish shopping. Not good sad Please moan as much as you need to!

roast thank you for that. You made me smile with those words smile

Oops mamma about your GTT. I don't think 30 weeks should be too late. I never went to mine either. Although I did cancel mine first grin.

31 weeks today. Thank god. Being on single figures for the number of weeks left feels good.

I didn't have an appointment Terra, they just expect you to turn up when you can make it. smile

SeaSalt1 Tue 05-Mar-13 23:43:03

Hello everyone, just thought I'd check in for a quick catch up, lovely to hear all your news and sorry to hear so many of you are uncomfortable. I'm doing a bit better these days - physio seems to have helped my back and I'm eating a lot better than before. Overall I've still only put on about 2 or 3 pounds, but I lost so much in the first trimester that it sounds much worse than it is.

My other news is that I'm flying home tomorrow night. I know quite a few of you are abroad and would love to be going home so I won't bang on about it (promise) but just wanted to mention it - six months of pregnancy on the other side of the world has been pretty challenging (it's hard to set up any sort of meaningful support network in such a short time) and I can't wait to get back and see my family. DH flew back about 10 days ago so I'm missing him and the time change has made it tricky to talk much.

So, it's time for some third trimester long-haul flying, have any of you got any experience of this? Fifteen or so hours in a plane wouldn't be my preferred activity at this point but I'm going to have to do it. Any tips would be great.

WestieMamma Wed 06-Mar-13 08:58:16

I had a bath yesterday instead of a shower to try and ease a few aches and pains. I haven't had a bath in years. Ever since I've had discomfort in my ear, especially when swallowing, burping or yawning. Anyone know what it may be and how to get rid?

Catchingmockingbirds Wed 06-Mar-13 09:39:53

I've the same thing with my ears, have had it for about 2 months now. I assumed it was pregnancy related somehow.

Is Kitty still here?

Wirrawoo Wed 06-Mar-13 10:03:13

Hi seasalt so happy for you coming home smile the tips I've been given were mostly: wear flight socks to help stop your feet and ankles swelling too much, keep walking around the cabin and massaging your legs to keep circulation going, drink lots of water, do all you can to score an upgrade! Happy flying, hope there's good movies, have done that singapore to london flight sooo many times, hope it will be nice and empty for you so you can stretch out. Ooh and on that note, make sure you have a nice squishy pillow to help you get comfortable smile

ng1412 Wed 06-Mar-13 10:32:13

Wow seasalt very jealous of you coming home. Hope the trip is ok, I have done that journey a few times and at least you have a nice load of leg room and nice (ish) food! And just think what awaits you when you arrive, wonderful!

Maybe hope everything is ok, thinking of you x

I had a scan yesterday, all fine. Baby has a big head apparently, but the gyne was not bothered, said it was better to be big, not sure what that means...anyway baby is still breach so that explains why I am feeling so breathless and my lungs feel like they are being crushed all the time. Also have a lot of fluid which apparently explains the weight gain that I have suddenly had since second trimester.

Transfer my care in 5 weeks to Switzerland and then hopefully the C Section in 8 or 9 weeks. Can't wait now!

Bood I am whinging and moaning all the time about different ailments. This week it is backache, last week it was heartburn. Can't wait to see what next week's ailment could be. DH just ignores me now....

SevenReasonsToSmile Wed 06-Mar-13 12:30:28

maybe hope you're ok, we'll all be thinking of you tomorrow.

seasalt it doesn't seem 5 minutes since you were saying how many weeks you had left there. Hope the flight isn't too uncomfortable.

ng glad the scan went ok. At least you don't need to worry about the baby being breach if you're having a CS.

I can't remember who wanted me to let them know how we got on with starting reusable nappies but its going great. We're now on our 3rd day of using them and no leaks so far, haven't tried them at night yet though. The ones we're using are Mother-ease one size with tots bots flexi-wraps. I'll definitely be using them for DD2 as well, they're suitable from 8lbs though DS and DD were both prem so we'll probably just use disposables until she's big enough rather than pay an extra £200 for enough small ones.

The nursery is almost painted, its lavender and looks really pretty. we just need to find a carpet then DH can build the furniture. There's still an old wardrobe in there which the charity shop are collecting next week so we're at a bit of a standstill until then. I want to find some vintage style wallpaper to make some fancy unique artwork for the wall in there not that I have time.

Hope everyone else is doing ok.

roastpotatoes Wed 06-Mar-13 12:45:07

Hello, Is anyone taking any iron supplements? Just seen the Dr who said that my Hb levels are at the low end of the normal range (about 10.5) and so I was thinking about starting to take Floradix. As far as I can tell this is a plant based iron supplement and less likely to give you nasty side effects (constipation). Has anyon