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June 2013 - Thread 4 - don't forget your pelvic floor!

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redwellybluewelly Sat 09-Feb-13 18:13:34

Last thread too full to add a link, hope everyone can find their way back!

Hurrah! Was just looking to see if anyone had started the next thread grin

learnermummy Sat 09-Feb-13 18:18:36

Thanks redwelly, must go do my kegel trainer app!
I've hired an Elle tens both times before so will probably again. There are various websites so ill have a look what the best deals are. Have never had braxton hicks but you can usually order extra sticky pads to try it out beforehand.
Happy sat night everyone, I've actually booked a sitter tonight and we're out for dinner but to be honest a night on the sofa would be very appealing!!

AlohaMama Sat 09-Feb-13 18:27:36

Thanks redwelly, and for the reminder. Wish you could get tens here. Or even gas and air. It's epidural or nothing.

MrsBri Sat 09-Feb-13 18:31:26

I finally made it to TKMAXX today and got myself the Dream Genii pillow, the last pack of aden and anais muslins and the last small aden and anais gro bag. I'm rather pleased with myself!

Can't wait to try my pillow tonight. Hoping I'll be far more comfy now.

forgetmenots Sat 09-Feb-13 18:59:40

MrsBri I have all three and at the moment love the pillow most grin have been in TKMaxx most weeks just in case there's new stock.

End of the gap sale had a few lovely unisex bits so I snapped them up too!

MrsBri Sat 09-Feb-13 19:03:57

Our TKMAXX is being extended, so I'm hoping there will be more stock when they open the new part in 2 weeks. I move next weekend, so won't be going then!

I detest how jumble sale the place is though, it has to be said. Ours was utterly chaotic today :-/

DontmindifIdo Sat 09-Feb-13 19:04:05

hello! Signing back in.

MrsBri - I've been sleeping with my lovely huge maternity pillow thing (not sure which one it is, I bought it over 3 years ago when I had DS!) - it makes such a big difference.

Feeling very happy today, my hip isn't hurting! First time in about a month. Yay!

BTW - on the previous lists of "thing you need" I've thought today of something else you'll need, really good handcream! In the first year you spend so much time washing your hands or handwashing things, you'll need it to avoid old lady hands...

forgetmenots Sat 09-Feb-13 19:10:05

There are two city centre ones where I am (glasgow) - one is much neater than the other and I tend to go there. Always worry that I miss out on bargains by not being a good rummager!

Good tip dontmind! smile Molton brown next stop!

AlohaMama Sat 09-Feb-13 19:12:47

Definitely hand cream. I often give that as a new mum gift! And love Aden and anais, they are so useful and pretty. I wish I needed more things so I could justify shopping. Oh yeah and maybe some money to spend too...

redwellybluewelly Sat 09-Feb-13 19:23:06

[Blush] just happened to be passing through

I think we hired our TENS via a money off voucher through the NCT and it was good value for money. Used it throughout labour.

This time I won't be but as im signed up to every parenting page under the sun if I do get a money off voucher appear again then happy to post it on

Also, I wondered if those of you who have been feeling sick of an evening have tried liquid gaviscon? DH got me some last night and I feel so much better this evening, have had some after every meal. And I had cake today, usually that makes.me feel sick within an hour.

cyclecamper Sat 09-Feb-13 20:08:17

MrsBri I got my dream genii today too (in the post from ebay!) so I'm looking forward to bedtime so I can try it out. I also got a couple of maternity swimsuits, so I'm going to investigate our (brand new!) local pool this week.

I'm using tons of hand cream already - the baby seems to be sucking all the moisture out of me!

I found out that there is a fairly local yoga centre that has a drop in pregnancy yoga class so I might try that out this week too. The local NCT group is about 5 miles away, at the top of a hill and the classes finish at 10 pm on Thursdays, which is not a time that I want to be hanging around bus stops. It's 2 buses from here as well, so I am probably going to give that one a miss!

learnermummy Sat 09-Feb-13 20:11:21

Gaviscon didn't leave my side during first pregnancy but am fine this time so am guessing its another bald baby like ds2. Heartburn is a horrible thing.

I don't like gaviscon, however I have been popping spearmint flavour Rennies like nobodies business. Not so bad today although I've just eaten a sherbet fountain, so give it a few minutes... grin

pinkapples Sat 09-Feb-13 22:37:52

Picked up my new car today gringrin

Toyota Aygo Ice a bit tin like but a nice enough commute car for hubby grin

Having some funny feelings tonight maybe baby has managed to kick through the double duvet placenta as the midwife describes it grin like pops but weird hopefully get some proper feelings soon midwife said might not be till 25 weeks blush

AmIGoingMad Sat 09-Feb-13 22:58:44

Marking my place as I'm rolling around in pain from indigestion. Will catch up tomorrow! Night all!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 10-Feb-13 00:05:18

Marking place

Mawgatron Sun 10-Feb-13 00:16:44

Hi all. Just in from my wedding, was absolutely stunning. Have left husband behind, to continue getting hammered and dance to dhol drumming (Sikh wedding). i was really good, and only had a glad of wine despite it being A COMPLETELY FREE BAR!!!!! Gutted, have never been to a wedding with a free bar before, Sod's law the first one I go to and I can't drink!
Hope everyone else has had a pleasant eve? Anyone else watching milk on bbc 2? Amazing film...

AmIGoingMad Sun 10-Feb-13 08:09:45

How typical is that maw- free bar while pregnant! Glad you had a lovely day and very impressed that you lasted until so late!

Will have to give gaviscon/ rennies a try- last night was painful!

How are you all getting on with your dream geniis? I bought one last time but took it back as it was just too big for me! Going to ask DH to dig out the wedge pillow and bolster that I used last time today tho. Are you all doing the sleeping on the left thing now? I can't quite manage it at the moment as DH is on my right and I also feel really comfy on my back. What are your thoughts on it?

I'm also thinking that after our scan ( tomorrow yey!) I might have to make a trip to tkmaxx. I haven't been in there since uni as the general jumble in our local one put me off. There's a newer bigger one now tho so I'm going to have to brave it after all the bargains you've found! Do they just keep getting batches of the Aden anais stuff randomly or is it quite a rare thing?

Also- I'm definitely with you in the hand cream front. Mine have been awful back and forth since DS. I've been loving soap and glory and Crabtree and Evelyn la source when I can get there/ splash out.

Congrats on the new car too!

MrsBri Sun 10-Feb-13 09:09:13

I can report that the pillow is very comfy...and I've only just woken up!

I alternate between my left and right as my legs ache quite a bit so I can't lie in one position all night. The pillow was fine to use like that, although it was obviously backwards for some of the night, but still gave me support. I had found myself waking up on my back, so this should stop that. Though that was weird, as I never sleep on my back!

My understanding is that you never know what TKMAXX will have, so it is just what is there on the day. Not helpful, I know.

Maw...Alanis should have written about the free bar :-/ At least you had a great time. I assume your DH is suffering today?!

And congrats on the new car, sounds lovely!

massagegirl Sun 10-Feb-13 09:17:52

I agree about TK max. I hate shopping there for clothes but actually if you are going for baby stuff at least it's all in one place. Have got a couple of bits from there... Wish I'd seen the dream pillow sounds lovely!! I might venture there today but am full of cold so chick flick at cinema while oh does DIY seems bit more appealing.

SunnyL Sun 10-Feb-13 11:22:17

Hi all. Learning a life skill this weekend - wallpapering! Seems to involve a lot of phone calls to my dad but baby's room is shaping up. I did have a little temper tantrum part way through yesterday but thankfully being a stubborn bugger another trip to B&Q to get the right paste and a sneaky Cadburys caramel set me back on course. Got very cute owl wallpaper from B&Q which is about the only decent gender neutral wallpaper I could find. Just the corner and door to wallpaper now - wish me luck!

pinkapples Sun 10-Feb-13 11:58:20

Awwww sunny how exciting we have our paper but no joys getting it up yet although as its a mural we are having it done professionally by a friend of ours didn't want to risk it as hubby is crap at DIY grin

SunnyL Sun 10-Feb-13 12:13:31

My DH knows how to wallpaper but hates any form of decor other than institutional white. The only way I was getting any colour in the nursery was doing it myself hence hours of phone calls to my dad and watching instructional videos on YouTube!

cyclecamper Sun 10-Feb-13 12:37:33

We live in rented house, so couldn't wallpaper if I wanted! I have admiration for those who do! We could paint, but I am totally rubbish at anything involving coordination and my Husband's asthma can't cope with the smell, so we have to put up with the peeling paint we have. Ho hum. The dream genii worked pretty well, although I need to work on positioning it. It worked brilliantly as a back pillow for sitting up this morning, folded round on itself grin.

MrsBri Sun 10-Feb-13 12:54:58

We are in rented, but all we have to do is ask permission of the landlords to decorate. We are going for light yellow paint and using the soft furnishings to add pattern.

It would be a hard hearted landlord who refuses!

I can wallpaper, though I've never done it with patterned paper. I think I could though. DH is awesome at that kind of thing, so I'm not allowed to do it, even if I wanted to. Boo!

Mawgatron Sun 10-Feb-13 14:55:37

Mrs bri, he is really suffering. I suspect it was the two mojitos and Harvey wall banger in the hotel bar afterwards that finished him off. He was hammered when I left him and that was at 11.30- he didn't stumble into our hotel room until 3.30... Revenge is sweet...
In terms of decorating, my little drunkard is a decorator which is handy, as I could never do as good a job as him. This means I don't ever have to do it - woo hoo!
Not ventured to the maxx recently but def will, heard a lot of good things about it!

pinkapples Sun 10-Feb-13 16:06:57

Is it me or is anyone else really exhausted? I feel so tired all the time hubby is so surprised I'm never awake hehe grin bought a dream genii today just waiting for it to be delivered now this week x

Withalittlesparkle Sun 10-Feb-13 16:26:39

I can't believe you're all decorating nurseries already!!!! We're barely at the 'lets start emptying the room' phase! Think I need to start getting a wiggle on!!

I have however gone through the wardrobe this weekend and cleared it out and chucked lots of stuff out of our room so we now have extra storage space!

We're not even due to get our nursery furniture until I'm 36 weeks!!

massagegirl Sun 10-Feb-13 16:38:35

Don't worry sparkle. We're having work done to the house when baby is born otherwise there will be no room, so I'm not getting my hands on the nursery til they are about 6 months old sad

Olimoss Sun 10-Feb-13 16:42:48

Oh you're all making me feel guilty about not actually decorating the baby's room. Essentially he will be in the spare room closest to ours till he sleeps through the night, then will move to the smaller room at the back of the house. It's a nice, light room, and we'll keep the paintings and giant wall clock that are in there already, as well as add the cot, chest of drawers/change table, and an arm chair, but that's it! So not really decorating it for a kid, if you see what I mean.

We figure the baby will not remember and in any case their vision is such in the first several months that black and white is the best colour scheme for them anyway (although our house has very pale grey walls inside)....

Are we being terrible parents?!

cyclecamper Sun 10-Feb-13 16:56:37

Don't worry Oli, we are not decorating and I'm half hoping that the big lad and his girlfriend will move out before we need to do any more room emptying. Not terribly optimistic though.

MrsBri Sun 10-Feb-13 17:22:09

A new baby may well make them want to move out, cycle, don't give up hope just yet!

And I'm not sure why we're going to decorate so soon (probably excitement) as baby will be in with us for a while to make night feeds easier. Once (s)he sleeps through the night (s)he'll go into the nursery.

However, the walls are an alarming bright blue at the moment, which is just wrong, so would have needed a coat of paint in any event, so we may as well go for something we really want!

We've just taken delivery of the moses basket DH used to have as a baby, and is actually 57 years old soon, as it was bought by his gran for his mum's cousin! We're getting it re-lined and have bought a mattress for it, but it's nice to have something that was used by DH :-)

AlohaMama Sun 10-Feb-13 19:17:16

Wow that is some vintage basket! I suspect better made than new ones as my not even 2 year old one is fraying.

SunnyL Sun 10-Feb-13 19:17:51

Ach we're only decorating because we moved into this house brand new a few months ago so a) it's easy to move stuff around as we haven't gotten too entrenched and b) all the walls are boring white and offend me. DH only likes white walls so took the opportunity of him being at work this weekend to do the decorating!

MrsBri Sun 10-Feb-13 19:22:13

It doesn't look that old at all. It's wicker and very sturdy :-) Slightly larger than those you buy now too, so it actually needs a pram sized mattress rather than the standard Moses basket size.

Sunny, I'm impressed with your efforts! Has your DH seen it yet?

dreamydays Sun 10-Feb-13 19:54:57

Hi everyone. Just on Tens machines, I hired one last time but found it no help at all, even though it was the only pain relief I had! I was in labour at home during the night, trying to keep moving, but kept getting tangled up in the wiring. Psychologically it was good to have a button to press during contractions, but physically I found it made no difference to the pain. My friends found the same. But, clearly it works for some people!

Also, on weight gain (sorry I'm a bit behind the chat), when not pregnant I find I can get away with eating the odd bar of choc (ok a lot of bars of choc) as on the whole I eat ok and get quite a bit of exercise. But at the moment I'm finding every non-healthy mouthful goes straight to the scales - seems so unfair - is anyone else finding this? I'm shaping up to be big as a house!

LexiLexi Sun 10-Feb-13 20:24:13

Evening everyone, our TK Maxx gets new stock every Thurs, so I try to get there before Sat to pick up the nice items before the shelves get rummaged. Not sure if deliveries are the same day at every store so may be worth asking at your local.

There were some lovely Stella McCartney items in the newborn section in ours, plus a good selection of Gro-bags.

Also politely avoiding the scales, as I've gone chocolate mad these past few months...

Very best of luck for your scan tomorrow, AmI

MrsBri Sun 10-Feb-13 21:24:57

Yes, good luck, AmI.

Were you team yellow or finding out?

Mawgatron Sun 10-Feb-13 21:46:04

WOO HOO! Just won a stokke sleepi package on eBay, saving roughly £500.
Sorry, didn't know who else to show off to, as my non pregnant friends would not give the slightest shit/have a clue what I'm on about.

redwellybluewelly Sun 10-Feb-13 22:13:45

Well done Maw wish I'd seen it! Loved it last time but couldn't justify the cost.

Good luck AmI look forward to hearing about baby's antics smile

Withalittlesparkle Sun 10-Feb-13 22:28:11

maw love a good eBay win!!

We've decided we don't need to buy any clothes at all after seeing what my sister had 'put aside' for us now we know we're team blue! I have enough baby grows, body suits, tshirts, jeans, jumpers, coats, booties, mittens and bibs to take me easily through the first 6 months! Some of it still has tags on!!

Anyone else has having worries about snow again? During the last lot of snow work closed at midday by which time the roads were so bad that husband couldn't get to me so I had to walk home, all 5 flipping miles!!!! My belly has since expanded in size and I'm just not willing to risk the walk again!!!! So am already preparing myself for a fight!!!

learnermummy Sun 10-Feb-13 23:26:13

Hello all my weekends are so busy I never have time to mumsnet hmm. An having a mild panic here about where baby stuff will go. Boys are in own rooms and don't want then to share and also don't really want to lose spare room too soon. We have a big bedroom so space for cot but have no idea where baby clothes etc are going to go! Need to get organised!!

AmIGoingMad Mon 11-Feb-13 07:54:49

Morning all! Thanks for the good luck messages! I'm all excited and nervous. Little one has started moving around again this morning tho so I'm taking that as reassurance fingers crossed! We're hoping to find out- since we decided to I just can't wait so I'm hoping we have a cooperative one in there! Will let you all know how it goes- scan not til 11 and that's if appts are on time so I'm not sure how I'm going to wait til then!!!

A lot of our decorating/ buying will depend on what happens today so we've not done anything yet. Very impressed with you lot tho- especially wallpapering yourself- dread to think if the mess I'd make of that!

learnermummy Mon 11-Feb-13 07:57:40

Good luck AmI! Hope time passes quick this morning.

suzyrut Mon 11-Feb-13 09:51:15

Morning all, sounds like everyone had a busy and productive weekend. I went to Ikea, with pretty much every other pregnant woman in London on Saturday and bought a chair and footstool for night feeds (determined not to fall into the trap of doing it in bed like the last two and not being able to get them out of there till early teens!) I think I'm going against the tide though because a woman at work was impressing on me the importance of attachment parenting on Friday, I had a quick look on the internet but not entirely sure it's going to be for me. Anyone else had any experiences on this? It was all Gina Ford and controlled crying when I had my others.

Maw one of my friends is giving me her old sleepi, her daughter hardly slept in it so just need a new matress, yeay!

AmI good luck for today, will keep my fingers crossed for some uncrossed legs xx

pinkapples Mon 11-Feb-13 12:42:36

I'm the same Suzy of course I want to bond and it is important since its a long awaited IVF baby but I to will be teaching the art of controlled crying as I work in a nursery and the on demand thing just isn't going to work for me grin feel mean when I hear about co sleeping and all the rest of it but think its for the best for me...

Had another session at aqua natal on Sunday which was good makes me want to have a water birth grin any ideas whether I can do this or not on my first? obviously depends on when baby comes

learnermummy Mon 11-Feb-13 12:59:23

No reason you can't ask for water birth pinkapples as long as you don't need to be monitored or on a drip and they have a pool available of course! For my first I laboured a while in a pool but then got out for epidural.
I did cosleep with ds2 and found it much easier but then I am a bit lazy! He's a great sleeper by the way (in his own bed). Will probably do the same with this one and am watching eBay for a bedside cot.

massagegirl Mon 11-Feb-13 13:36:18

I really like those bed side cots think might be the best of both worlds?
Just back from hospital appointment and my bp was high enough for them to worry, urine was fine, baby heart rate a bit quick, am home on sofa and made executive decision to not work tues and weds to try and bring it down and get rid of this bloomin cold/combo. Reckon taking it easy til it's rechecked on thurs might be the best thing. I like to think I'll so routine and controlled crying but then sleepless nights might mean I'll do anything!

DontmindifIdo Mon 11-Feb-13 13:58:14

massagegirl - which side cots were you looking at? We didn't get one for DS but got a moses basket instead, which he'd outgrown by 8 weeks and his big cot was too big for our room so I had to put him in his own earlier than I wanted sad (Quite happy to nick someone else's research!)

I'm trying to get a little more organised with the baby's room, need to get DS out of it first (hopefully will have the final things out of the spare room and in the loft tonight/tomorrow night, clean the carpet on Wednesday night, DH is going to just patch a few bits of the paintwork that have been scuffed with the furniture that's in there now) DS should be able to be in by Sunday - so then the weekend after we can start sorting the baby's room - that's the plan anyway...

massagegirl Mon 11-Feb-13 14:01:28

The nct bed nest and also the Troll one. But quite expensive compared to Moses basket so just not sure. Am same with not much room in our bedroom so can't have big cot.

AmIGoingMad Mon 11-Feb-13 14:46:03

Everything went well at the scan thank goodness! We're team pink!!! Quite a shock and it will be a lot more expensive but we're soooo happy! Now I need to work out how to sell on eBay to fund our new team member! Can't believe how much stuff we have up attic from DS! Must admit I'm really excited tho and won't be quite so outnumbered in a couple of years now!smile

learnermummy Mon 11-Feb-13 14:53:34

Congratulations AmI I take it you already have boys too? Lovely surprise!
I'm looking at bedside cots rather than cribs just for longevity. I want one where the side goes up and over rather than down and under so that you can start the evening with the side up but easily lift when in bed go feed. Only ones I've come across are troll and brio but they're hard to find.

Sarah2506 Mon 11-Feb-13 15:01:22

Ah here you all are! You go away for the weekend come back and the thread is full! Home on the sofa right now with a cold. Under normal circumstances I might go to work sick but so can't be arsed right now. Have to say you lot with your shopping does freak me out. We have bought nothing and I really have no idea where to start. I find it all so overwhelming. I guess I don't know what sort of parent I want to be, though I think I like the idea of not doing the on demand thing. And we've agreed co sleeping certainly isn't for us. But there is so much info out there, all conflicting that its so confusing! Or is this just me?!

Sarah2506 Mon 11-Feb-13 15:12:10

BTW; NCT rent bednests for 99 quid for 6 months. As above I have no clue so I have no idea whether this is a good thing!

suzyrut Mon 11-Feb-13 15:16:18

Congratulations amI what lovely news xx

Sarah hope you feel better soon, I've certainly lowered the bar on how sick I'm prepared to be before not going to work, you're recouperating for two now!

I agree there's lots of conflicting info on ways to parent I can remember sitting at the top of my stairs with a copy of gina ford and a large vodka and orange 13 years ago waiting for ds to stop crying and soothe himself to sleep it's horrible and honestly I felt like a total failure. I might just not read anything this time and see how I get on! xx

redwellybluewelly Mon 11-Feb-13 16:46:54

AmI congratulations! I think dividing clothes into six month groups sells best from what I can gather. I'm in the second hand market for dd as she is growing too fast! And nursery ask they have three changes of clothing a day.

As for parenting styles I think anything whoch becomes labelled is doing itself a disservice, lot to be said for trusting your instinct. I suppose I'm what you'd label an attached parent, except that "group" dont thibk I am becasue I dare to work full time and see my child only in the evenings and weekends and will do with this one too. We had sleep issues so severe for so long dd's paed got us a sleep psychologist, and we learnt a lot from that experience if anyone wants to know more then pm me but I dont want to upset the friendly nature of the june baby bus!

We had a bed nest but I hated it, too heavy, will probably have to use it for this baby unless I can trade it somehow for a Co sleeping crib. We're borrowing a moses basket this time round for downstairs. Anyone else worried about the way toddler will wake baby and vice versa?

MrsBri Mon 11-Feb-13 17:58:55

Congrats AmI :-)

I hope the shock has worn off now and it is 100% excitement!

Sorry you're ill, Sarah. Hope it passes soon.

We've just bought this wallpaper: www.linenstore.co.uk/Baby-Animals-Wallpaper/P-and-S-International-PAS0568210HAPPY-Happy-Lions-Wallpaper to redo the wardrobe doors in baby's room which currently have nasty paper on them. Couldn't resist it!

forgetmenots Mon 11-Feb-13 18:29:08

Congratulations AmI! smile
Has everyone now had their scan? Exciting!

Just found this thread! i wondered where you had all gone, then realised it was full shock
Congratulations aml!
I'm feeling very hormonal today, also very tired, grumpy, fat and frumpy!!
Decided I don't like any of the mat clothes I've bought, even though I've been wearing them a couple of weeks. On the plus side we've just ordered our crib from John Lewis, our cot and wardrobe from mothercare, and decided on the pain colour for baby's room. I'm trying to get as organised as I can as bit worried this hip/back pain is getting progressively worse.

AmIGoingMad Mon 11-Feb-13 19:06:11

Thank you! smile

Great advice too re eBay redwelly- thanks!

Hope you feel better soon Sarah and littlemiss too. I feel good today as the scan has put me in a good mood bit generally have been feeling shattered so can definitely sympathise!

Lovely wallpaper you've ordered mrsbri!

I finally feel like I can start planning properly now and am off for a look around the shops with my mother tomrw for inspiration. Although I do keep panicking myself with the Nhs disclaimer that they can't be 100% when they tell you the sex. Well look at that I've managed not to second guess for all of a few hours before creating another worry for myself! Right off to look at 'girly things'. I've notice lots of baby girl clothes in blues and brights in last couple of weeks so that will be a lovely change from the all pink I would have been expecting!smile

So is it just me with my head firmly in the sand re getting stuff ready, then? grin We have done precisely nothing, although we did reach viability day yesterday (24 weeks) so maybe that will encourage me along a bit...

I do have 2 pushchairs on watch via eBay though, does that count?!

grainmum Mon 11-Feb-13 22:32:03

No Rue I'm in the same boat. We have one packet of vests and a couple of packets of nappies that were on special offer. Nothing big. And I'm 24 weeks tomorrow. Still. that's 16 weeks to go...

redwellybluewelly Mon 11-Feb-13 23:12:48

We haven't really done anything.

I need to sort out clothes, luckily I bought unisex up until about 3months, and we need to get a new mattress for the moses basket we were given.

Still need to paint the room the baby and I will be in, and get a new double bed frame. Need to sell our buggy and buy a double.

I have bought a pack of newborn nappies which were in offer but I need to get this bump a cuddly.

concentrating on getting downstairs done, and having a wall of cupboards built for storage.

AlohaMama Mon 11-Feb-13 23:29:38

Congrats AmI, exciting. Is that everyone for scans then?
Redwelly I'm the same as you. Boxes of clothes to sort. I had a quick look the other day and realised a lot of the newborn stuff had gone stained in storage so might need a little bit of shopping. And now the dilemma, do we hold on to our boy clothes just in case we have another? Complicated by the fact that we're now considering whether to move back to the uk this summer, which will involve lots of decluttering in general. Don't even want to think about that right now though.

MrsBri Tue 12-Feb-13 07:04:19

I'm always really organised, so that's why I'm sorting stuff now. Also, I earn extra money each month by drafting witness statements, so I'm using that money to buy stuff with as it comes in.

I have no clothing whatsoever, but April is (usually) bonus month (though if we get one this year it is likely to be the last, thanks to changes to solicitors' costs) so I'll go shopping then and bulk buy all the clothing.

I like to know I'm sorted :-)

MrsJLS85 Tue 12-Feb-13 07:36:24

Hi everyone, just marking my place on new thread!

Feeling a bit rough still; I literally have every symptom in the book! Who are these women who don't find out they're pregnant til the end eh? because I feel like such a bag of tools! insomnia, vomitting, indigestion, restless legs, itchy tum, headaches, sore back, etc etc. Ah well, its all worth it right!! smile

learnermummy Tue 12-Feb-13 08:06:23

I'm the same Rue, have bought absolutely nothing, just have the bits I have been given so far. You could say I'm still in denial smile!

MrsBri Tue 12-Feb-13 08:27:59

Ah yes, the leg thing, Mrs...I get woken by my aching legs every night :-/

I've no idea how someone cannot know. Especially when baby is moving around!

Phew, I'm glad it's not just me! grin

MrsBri I know someone who discovered she was pregnant at about 30 weeks gone, she had no bump, no symptoms, had been out partying/drinking as normal but getting odd "indigestion" feelings so went to the GP. Who thought she might be about 8 weeks PG and sent her for a scan... Fortunately, baby was fine! Can't imagine the shock though, she was in a daze for the next 6 weeks or so before she went on mat leave. I went on annual leave then mat leave at about 32 weeks with my first, couldn't wait - and with SPD was getting progressively less mobile so spending a couple of months on the sofa seemed like a fantastic idea grin

forgetmenots Tue 12-Feb-13 09:34:35

I think I could have gone a long time without knowing, and written the movement off as a dicky tummy - would have taken me until about 20 weeks to suspect I reckon. Didn't even think I was when I took my test, but had been basically testing every month due to mad cycles! Just as well I did (although the lovely glass of vair nice Rioja I had just poured had to go down the sink! sad )

SunnyL Tue 12-Feb-13 10:03:52

I still remember the girl in the year above me at High School. She went to A&E with stomach cramps and suspected appendicitis and 5 hours later a baby came along. I asked my Dad at the time who was a GP if it really was possible to not know you were pregnant waiting for him to poo poo the idea. When he told me he'd had numerous patients over the years it had happened to I got a major shock. Cue all the girls in my year running to Boots at lunch time for pregnancy tests (it wasn't the classiest of schools).

Thank God I've got 8 months to get used to the idea!

redwellybluewelly Tue 12-Feb-13 12:44:18

To be fair in my 1st pg I wouldn't have known until probably around 24 weeks as no bump, few movements I had felt like wind and I wasn't really that sick. I also had been treated for severe acid reflux for years and my MS in my 1st pg was pretty similar.

suzyrut Tue 12-Feb-13 12:47:18

I marvel at people who didn't know...dropped a spoon in pret just now and couldn't bend down past my bump to pick it up from under the table!

Olimoss Tue 12-Feb-13 12:48:34

I think it's amazing how the movement thing is different for all of us.....I wasn't expecting to feel for a while because although not massive I'm also not a skinny minny...but I felt the baby move for the first time in late December and he's been increasingly punchy and kicky to the point of becoming quite regular with his schedule.

I saw the consultant today and mentioned that the baby had gone a bit quiet but I reckoned that was normal (ie: just checking in with consultant that it was) and he rushed me into scan and trace and all sorts. Bit anxiety-making.

Anyway all is fine, he's just changed position and is kicking to the back instead of the front. Growing normally but has an abdomen circumference on the 90th percentile. Fatty!

I've been told I can drink coffee and cold things all day to try to kickstart him back into kicking but to be honest it's been nice to have a night without being punched in the guts!

Good news on your scan AmI - have we anyone left?

SunnyL Tue 12-Feb-13 14:42:03

Garg! Just spoke to the person who I hoped could take on one of my projects while I'm on maternity leave. Unfortunately she is fully booked and can't take on any more work until September. Challenge is its one of those research projects in a new area which very few people have the skills to do it. Scrabbling round now looking for an alternative.

Is anyone else having to find people to cover their work during maternity leave?

pinkapples Tue 12-Feb-13 17:31:50

I reckon I could also not know as although I'm feeling a bit sick every now and again I'm alright really and not any movement yet... hmm So jealous of you all getting battered by your babies

MrsBri Tue 12-Feb-13 18:16:06

Imagine how much worry you miss out on by not knowing!

I think baby is changing his routine a touch as I've felt him overnight when my leg pains wake me. Only moving though, he hasn't taken to kicking me overnight. He saves that for the day / evening.

And he still manages to do something that tickles me. God knows what!

Glad everything is OK after your alarming consultant, Oli. Wider baby though? I've told Baby B he can be long but not wide! ;-p

Mawgatron Tue 12-Feb-13 18:19:59

Glad I'm not the only one who isn't really feeling too much in the way of movement! This is my first though, and they said that my placenta (our/his placenta?) is at the front - would that muffle feeling kicks?
Haven't really done masses yet either except the cot. Done a lot of looking, but not a huge amount of buying. Know what chest of drawers I want from ikea, and I think I'm going for an uppababy vista.
Got some hand me down baby clothes coming and I guess people will probably buy us quite a lot of clothes (first grandchild on both sides).
Am I stupid to be not that worried?

Olimoss Tue 12-Feb-13 18:24:49

No idea MrsBri although somewhat concerned we are growing a giant as abdo circumference is on the 95th centile....eek.....but yes, all is ok so grateful for that!

Think it's locked in our decision to go for a private 30-week scan though, just to check in. Although today was stressful seeing the scan was also v reassuring.

AlohaMama Tue 12-Feb-13 19:15:49

Sunny that sounds a bit crap, especially having to sort it all our yourself. Mind you I suppose it is one of those situations where if you don't sort it out yourself, all the work will be waiting for you when you get back?

mawgatron having a placenta at the front definitely muffles feeling. I have been feeling kicks probably ~2 weeks later than with ds, and as this is 2nd normally you'd expect to feel movement earlier (due to knowing what you're looking for).

oli you just have to hope baby has a small head! Having a 30 week scan will be good as they can give you a measurement then. We had a scan at I think 32 weeks which was the first point at which they decided ds was on the big side. I had another scan to check the size again and as a result was induced early, so he was born 10 d before due date, and came out at 9lb1oz.

Olimoss Tue 12-Feb-13 19:42:08

Aloha - ah that's good to hear, will definitely do it I think! Other measurements are completely normal, just he has a giant belly. Maybe am growing a baby Santa, god knows....!

AlohaMama Tue 12-Feb-13 20:54:35

oh that sounds kind of cute, little baby with big beachball belly smile

redwellybluewelly Tue 12-Feb-13 21:56:38

Sunny are you self employed? I was when I had DC1 and it was really tough running down contracts and then handing over hard earned work to others.

Sarah how are you feeling?

Scans are weird - I had one at 42 weeks which said DD was over 8 and a half pounds but she was only 6.13! I'm hoping this one is a little bigger as DD was so skinny! Baby bellies are v cute.

I've been feeling a lot of movement some days and very little other days, will be discussing with MW next week, baby has however figured out how to do somersaults which make me feel ever so slightly queasy!

MrsBri Tue 12-Feb-13 22:09:20

Ah, redwelly...Baby B does flip flopping motions. It is nausea-provoking, isn't it?!

I have busy and quiet days too...today has been more movement than kicking, for instance. And if he's had a really busy day one day, he appears quieter the next!

I'm glad I don't have to find my own cover, Sunny, but then I'm not being covered as my manager is also pregnant, so we are running the files down in preparation for the majority of the post-lit team being off on maternity!

forgetmenots Tue 12-Feb-13 22:38:15

Haha Mrs bri, mine does that too, kind of felt like going over speed bumps in a black cab... Until it started spinning/moving sideways! Never was a fan of roller coasters smile

Although I've been feeling baby for quite a few weeks, it's all been gentle and even the more sudden movements don't feel too strong, that must be where the anterior placenta comes in. Think a lot of the back pains have been kicks in that direction - no cushion there after all!

MrsBri Wed 13-Feb-13 06:29:46

I don't do rollercoasters either, forget, but it appears that Baby B's body clock has changed and he now spends all night looping the loop :-/ Cute, but not when I can't sleep due to a hideously bunged nose.

Anybody else permanently bunged up?

Mawgatron Wed 13-Feb-13 06:39:03

Yep, bunged up like nobodies business. It's quite irritating tbh! It's always much worse in the morning though.
Sunny, that sounds awful, what do you do for a living?
Makes me thankful that I am a teacher, so they have sort it for me. As if we don't have enough stress and worry without sorting our own cover out!

MrsBri Wed 13-Feb-13 07:05:13

It is irritating, Maw. I'm going to find out if we can take / do anything as I really struggled to breathe overnight.

I find work doesn't help due to the awful air con.

Work wouldn't dare ask me to find my own replacement if I was being replaced! I'm full of sympathy, Sunny.

Only 3 days til we move house...psyching myself up now. :-)

redwellybluewelly Wed 13-Feb-13 07:41:08

Olbas oil helps. I think the mucas thing is pretty normal (but frustrating) in pregnancy, my dear child has shared her throat/ear infection with me but because I took Monday off to care for her (DH did yesterday) then I cant take today off.

Latte(s) and sucky sweets will have to get me through today.

mrsbri enjoy the new house!

suzyrut Wed 13-Feb-13 08:53:59

Morning ladies, I'm really bunged up but seems to be irritating dp more than me as apparently I've started snoring really badly, so badly he felt the need to do an impression of me the other night...charming!

Am off to see an osteopath this evening that specialises in pre and post natal back problems. Midwife said she would refer me to the NHS physio but the wait was quite long and my hips feel like they're now moving totally independently of me and if I sit down for more than 5 minutes I seize up, so will see how it goes.


I don't think olbas oil is safe. Karvol is and so are menthol crystals.
I'm getting horrendous sinus pain on and off.

redwellybluewelly Wed 13-Feb-13 09:13:11

well well you learn something evreryday, I have th baby one (for DD) and it doesn;t say anywhere on it not safe for use in pregnancy but apparently you're right - its a no no.

massagegirl Wed 13-Feb-13 09:20:20

Oh dear. Steps away from the olbas oil. Got such a nasty cold had been the only thing to help... Oh well. Sniff sniff.

Sunbeam18 Wed 13-Feb-13 09:25:24

Yikes, I took one of those albus sticks (that you put up your nose) last week. Will I have done damage?

SunnyL Wed 13-Feb-13 11:26:39

Morning all. Made the cracking move of slicing the top off my finger yesterday. I have a super sexy bandage now. I'm also heading off to Sri Lanka tonight for 2 weeks with work. Now I'm planning a sob story at check in to try and get myself upgraded due to being an incontinent, pregnant wazzock with half a finger missing. Unfortunately colleagues have pointed out that my lack of bump and tiny bandage may scupper my plan for an upgrade.

AmIGoingMad Wed 13-Feb-13 12:10:52

Aw sunny! How did you manage that?! Hope the Sri Lanka trip goes well and that you get some sympathetic check in staff!

I too am a teacher so they'll be finding cover for me thankfully. Would hate the stress of finding my own! Although I really hope they do a better job than my last mat cover who did hardly anything with the kids and I had less than a year to get through the gcse course with them when I got back with baby brain!

Hope all those who are feeling rubbish feel better soon! It's tiring enough without extra bits going wrong with our bodies! DS is all bunged up today so I'm expecting it to develop just before I go back to work next week.

Went to bravissimo yesterday to be fitted for new bras as mine were killing me and I'm so happy with the ones they found me. No wonder I was hurting- gone up a back size and two cups. Didn't take as long as I usually am in there either. Also got a really lovely maternity dress from red herring in debenhams- it's all lovely and bright and summery! Can wear with leggings and boots now, and with flip flops when I'm the size of a house late spring!

Oo- exciting about your move mrsbri- that seems to have come around quickly!

Sarah2506 Wed 13-Feb-13 13:03:40

Dragged myself still feeling rough into work today and the description of Sunny as an incontinent pregnant wazzock with half a finger missing really made me smile. We have now finished all our planned travel pre baby, and no doubt for years to come! I tried for sympathy at one check in desk and to be 'helpful' they put me in the final row on the aisle next to the loo, which was cramped, noisy and the seat didn't recline. I made a point not to ask for any favours from airlines from then on!

Really wish I hadn't bothered today. Office is exploding as we lost a major bit of litigation - (you would have seen it on the news!!) - but not much I can do to help. Now a month until the major office move and really dreading the upheaval. Reckon will have the rest of the week off to recover:-)

LexiLexi Wed 13-Feb-13 15:10:50

On the subject of stuffy noses, Sunbeam I think some of the essential oils used in the formula (poss Clove) are uterine stimulants so can increase the risk of you delivering your baby early. If it was last week and you haven't had any symptoms sure it will be fine.

We hired a Rug Doctor to do a final clean on the carpets before our Victorian house goes on the market this weekend. On starting the machine up, a terrible odour of wet dog was unleashed. Judging by the quantity of dog hair eventually removed from the machine, they may well have run a pet sanctuary. Myself and DP are both unfortunately allergic to some dogs, so stuffy noses made even worse. Apparently Sterimar nasal spray is fine to use during pregnancy too, so I'm high tailing it to the pharmacy this afternoon to stock up.

redwelly, Sunny and Sarah hope you all feel better soon!

suzyrut Wed 13-Feb-13 16:50:42

Hope everyone gets better soon and that the check in people take pity on you sunny.

Good tips on nasal decongestants will try to pick up some karvol on the way home from osteo to save dh another sleepless night (he thinks he's got troubles now!) xx

SunnyL Wed 13-Feb-13 18:04:12

Below is the emial i sent work this afternoon:

Before I tell you what I've done I would like to make it clear I have a known medical condition which can cause these things to happen. I believe has a policy that prevents its colleagues from discrimination and would also like to point out that what I've done is in no way related to my gender, my hair colour or my lack of intelligence quotient. It is a medical condition known by the name baby brain. People with baby brain are victims. Fact.

I was 24 hours early for my flight.

They wouldn't let me check in.

I'm going to work from home until they will let me check in.

Here is the email response I got from my boss:

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h a hah a hah hahahahah ha ha hahahahah   ah ha ha hah ha
Get used to it.
It doesn't stop when you are not pregnant.
Better than the wrong name on ticket ( I had to cancel and rebook a flight this week...) or being a day LATE.

My observation of this email exchange:
1) I'm an idiot
2) I work for a nice company

Thought it might amuse you.

AlohaMama Wed 13-Feb-13 18:06:05

love it! cheered me right up grin

redwellybluewelly Wed 13-Feb-13 18:33:28

I'm sorry but thats just made me proper LOL - and my husband, and then my toddler who laughed because mummy and daddy were laughing. It also reminded me to do those damn pelvic floor exercises!

AmIGoingMad Wed 13-Feb-13 19:17:07

I love it! That has made me chuckle loads! And then redwelly mentioning the pelvic floor too! Poor you sunny! But as you say, you are working for a nice company!
I also believe that baby brain is a very real condition- definitely suffer from it myself. I'd also like to back up what your boss said- I don't think mine went back to normal after having DS!grin

Sarah2506 Wed 13-Feb-13 21:21:58

Oh man that has made my day!!!! I can't believe you pitched up a day early!

MrsBri Wed 13-Feb-13 21:29:23

Ha ha, Sunny, that is priceless!

Ha ha sunny that is brilliant. Your boss is much more understanding than mine!
Lexi are the rug doctors any good? When they don't smell of wet dog!

suzyrut Thu 14-Feb-13 08:49:06

ah sunny that is brilliant, you should show it to the check in people along with your bandaged finger later today, they'll have to upgrade you now! xx

SunnyL Thu 14-Feb-13 10:15:29

Apparently my medical condition is catching though. The MD things he might have it. Apparently it might also explain his massive consumption of sweeties recently.

Sarah2506 Thu 14-Feb-13 11:14:46

Ok it's Valentines Day. I really think I should make an effort. Is anyone else with me? For 5 months DH has been treated to a daily parade of bad underwear, jogging bottoms and manky T shirts as soon as in from work, the bed being somewhere for sleep to the exclusion of all other activities, and frankly good luck overcoming the baracade of pillows between us anyway. He's a lovely bloke and very understanding, but I really feel like I should make an effort this evening. Honestly the closest he gets to a good wife at the moment is the rather excellent channel 4 programme...

MrsBri Thu 14-Feb-13 13:17:08

Well...I'm on the way to the labour ward for a check up as I've got a little pink discharge on my knickers, not when wiping. Standard procedure apparently. Bit daunting though.

Luckily there's a drop in centre to see a midwife in Birkenhead where I work, so I've been there and heard the heartbeat, so that's a good thing.

I'll update you all later.

Hawkmoth Thu 14-Feb-13 13:19:17

Good luck MrsBri.

suzyrut Thu 14-Feb-13 13:54:40

Good luck mrsBri, I completely sympathise with the terror, I hope everything goes ok xx

sarah I would love to help by dh is getting a romantic evening watching me do the online shopping! xx

suzyrut Thu 14-Feb-13 13:54:52

but not by!

forgetmenots Thu 14-Feb-13 15:34:18

Good luck mrsbri - I'm sure all will be fine but will be thinking of you, anything like that is bound to be scary.

MrsBri Thu 14-Feb-13 15:36:08

Phew, all ok. Baby's heartbeat nice and strong :-) No obvious cause for it they could see, so just one of those things.

Wondering if I should stay off work tomorrow to rest up though? Only had one day off so far.

AlohaMama Thu 14-Feb-13 15:43:34

Great news mrsbri glad all is well.

forgetmenots Thu 14-Feb-13 16:34:09

Great news mrsbri you must be so relieved - just do whatever feels right tomorrow smile

MrsBri Thu 14-Feb-13 16:42:59

I am...I'm glad I got checked out, but being sent straight away to the labour ward was scary in itself.

At least DH has now heard baby's heartbeat. So there is an upside!

suzyrut Thu 14-Feb-13 17:18:24

Hi Mrs Bri,

Really pleased everything's ok. Just on the staying off work thing, I have tried to rest up after my bleeds. I know there's probably nothing in it but psychologically it makes me feel like I'm doing everything possible, especially when they can't tell you what's caused the problems in the first place.


MrsBri Thu 14-Feb-13 17:27:13

Thanks, suzy. I may stay off...worst timing ever with this weekend's move though. :-/

massagegirl Thu 14-Feb-13 17:52:51

Agree with Suzy take time off. I've been off this week due to very high blood pressure, it's gone down now but I chose to rest up. Good luck with the move, just direct from the side lines!

AmIGoingMad Thu 14-Feb-13 18:25:01

Only now getting chance to check mn. Poor you mrsbri. I'm so glad that everything's ok! It must have been horrible. As everyone's already said- make sure you rest up and remember that you and little one ate more important than anything else. Sending hugs x

Sarah- know what you mean. DH had surprised me with a night away in lovely hotel bless him. With all he's had to put up with the last few months too. Am now having a lie down I. An attempt to reenergise so that I can be at least somewhere near scintillating company this evening at dinner and beyond! Btw- I live the Good Wife! Haven't met anyone else who watches it just me, DH and my mum as I recommended it!

Aloha- nice to see you on names thread! Just heading over to check those out now!

Poor you mrs bri. Def think you should take it easy tomorrow and get as much help as you can with move.
Does anyone's bump has a name yet? We're struggling so glad we have a few more months to decide!!

DontmindifIdo Thu 14-Feb-13 19:17:06

MrsBri - Stay off tomorrow. Put your feet up and take care of yourself.

MrsBri Thu 14-Feb-13 19:54:07

I've asked HR if I can work from home as I don't fancy the long commute. See what they say.

I'm not ill, so I'd just be bored rigid at home doing nothing!

I do have a banging headache now though :-/

AlohaMama Thu 14-Feb-13 20:14:00

littlemiss - we have a name. we chose on for ds1 (we didn't find out gender that time) and we still love it. in fact i think we chose it about 8 years ago! sadly it is now on everybody's list of 'overpopular' names, but who cares we're sticking with it. nice not to have the stress of coming up with a new one which is why we were secretly glad this wasn't another boy

AlohaMama Thu 14-Feb-13 20:14:31

mrsbri - bored? sit on sofa, feet up, watch a film. perfect!

SunnyL Thu 14-Feb-13 20:42:07

Well bumps name varies depending who you ask. I refer to it as Babs or 'it', friend is calling it Elvis and mother is calling it some weird north of Scotland name.

When it becomes a baby though we have far better names in mind. I won on both accounts i.e. DH hasnt got either of the names he likes. Mind you i normally win so its not unusual.

AlohaMama Thu 14-Feb-13 21:44:25

sunny, sounds like the kind of balance in a relationship that i like grin

cyclecamper Thu 14-Feb-13 21:56:35

sunny we call the bump Gladys, but have no idea of the sex. We haven't even really talked about what it is going to be called when it arrives. We'll probably be one of those couples standing outside the registry office still deciding grin.

LexiLexi Thu 14-Feb-13 22:53:29

So glad everything was ok Mrs Bri, hope you are able to wfh tomorrow.

Littlemiss, Rug Doctors are great and have worked miracles on our cream carpets, although they are a tad heavy (we have a Victorian house on lots of levels). We hired ours for two days, which I would recommend as it doesn't cost much more than a day's hire and would have felt too much work to do in one go.

Does anyone have a link to the names thread, please? We're ok for boys but completely stuck for girls! Agree Aloha, these name trends come and go so quickly anyway that it will hardly matter in later life. Hope The Royals don't end up naming their baby after ours tho!

Mawgatron Fri 15-Feb-13 06:47:42

I love the good wife! I have watched every series so far and am considering downloading it all to watch again when I go on maternity ( have done this with true blood!)

Thank goodness mrs bri! I shit my pants when I had a bleed a few weeks ago, there is no worse feeling than thinking something is wrong. Blatantly take the day off. Frankly, I am looking for an excuse. Thank god for half term so I can catch up on marking.

Might show DH this thread, so he knows I am not the only one in my jammies the second I walk in the door!

I'm putting this out there, our boys name is Baxter. We loved it even before we were getting preggop. people seem to be getting used to it now, after the barrage of 'that is a dogs name' or 'that makes me think of soup'. If we were having a girl, we would have gone for freida. Guess we will save that for the next time.

Sarah2506 Fri 15-Feb-13 07:19:05

We are pretty certain on names. We have a short lit of five- freya, Effie, Esme, Rosalie and Elsa. DH favours freya and I like Effie. However I don't think Effie is so good for an adult. Dr freya sounds ok but Dr Effie not so much. Also it's kind of short for Euphemia which neither of us like. So I reckon Freya it may well be..

AlohaMama Fri 15-Feb-13 07:54:56

Oh I love Freya, such a pretty name. I agree Effie is cute but Euphemia not so much. Is there anything else it could be an abbreviation for, even if not typical? Like Fiona or something else beginning with f?

Sarah2506 Fri 15-Feb-13 08:03:07

Well in Skins, which is where I first heard it, it was short for Elizabeth. If we call her that then we will then have to spend time forcing everyone to call her Effie. It's nice to discuss this on here as if people steal your names it doesn't matter and if they hate them then so what! I have learnt not to mention them in real life as I hate people's reactions!

AlohaMama Fri 15-Feb-13 08:10:55

If you just introduce her as Effie people would soon pick up on it. They are all lovely names though.

Sunbeam18 Fri 15-Feb-13 08:22:40

Morning! I have finally been paid this month and start buying some bump clothes. Suddenly nothing fits! Can anyone recommend where to get good quality soft leggings? I don't mind paying a bit for them as think they will be a wardrobe staple over the coming months.

Sunbeam18 Fri 15-Feb-13 08:42:18

I love Freya and Esme Sarah. I'm in Scotland and Effie would not be a good name here as it's the name of an old lady character in Take The High Road (dodgy 80s Scottish soap)!

forgetmenots Fri 15-Feb-13 09:10:10

I love Elsa smile

I'm all over the name threads, I love them! Think we have settled on Angus if bump is blue smile

suzyrut Fri 15-Feb-13 09:16:15

Morning ladies, sorry mrsbri forgot you were moving tomorrow, good luck! Makes it way more important to rest up today!

sarah I love Effie, it's gorgeous. We have a name for dd, it's received such mixed reactions that I'm not telling anyone else in RL now until she's born when no one will dare say anything. Anyway it's Audrey (middle name probably Belle and she will have a 3 syllable surname), please think more Hepburn than Roberts!!

Sunbeam I bought some leggings from Topshop, they're nice and soft and they're staying up ok so far, can't vouche for how long that will last though!


MrsBri Fri 15-Feb-13 09:17:34

Well...I'm working from home, which is great. The commute is a killer, so it is fantastic to not have to do it. And to not have to answer the phone all day :-)

I love the name Freya. My friend has the name Esme too. It's unusual, so I'm quite surprised there's two of you choosing it! It's also lovely though :-)

New Look do a twin pack of leggings for 14 quid and they're over the bump and soft. Only online I think though, unless the bigger shops have them. Our locals ones don't stock them :-/

forgetmenots Fri 15-Feb-13 09:44:20

Love Audrey, Suzy - classy choice smile

Sarah2506 Fri 15-Feb-13 09:48:41

My top leggings tip is Sainsburys! The expensive ones, which are still only a tenner. They have something in them which begins with M - modal? I LIVE in leggings and these have been the best. I have now got to the point that regular clothes which still 'fit' are being stretched beyond recognition.

Great names - love Audrey and Angus:-) I am conscious that my choices are all influenced by popular culture. Effie from Skins, Rosalie and Esme from Twilight. Elsa was my next door neighbour. Freya was DH's choice. It was either that or something from Lord of the Rings - Arwen. Middle name is Lucy or Madeleine after my Granny.

forgetmenots Fri 15-Feb-13 09:58:14

Sarah I second the Sainsburys tip - they also do fab yoga pants which stay up! And my favourite piece of bump clothing is from there (a smock style dress I bought in the sale!) thumbs up!

forgetmenots Fri 15-Feb-13 09:59:16

PS I vote for Elsa Madeleine or Freya Lucy - all gorgeous names though smile

Olimoss Fri 15-Feb-13 10:05:50

Very impressed with the quality of names so far!! We are still discussing although our shirt list is v short. Boyfriend has a nice, alliterative Italian surname but it's a bugger of a thing to get names to go with, so we are thinking something simple and short like Joe or Rex.

We will see. Audrey was on my list for a girl, I love it!

I have leggings from H&M and they've been great, and in fact their maternity footless tights have been a godsend, I got a few pairs and have them on rotation. I am also finding trousers just too uncomfortable so bought a few more stretchy jersey dresses online (H&M, Isabella Oliver and Gap) and reckon they'll now see me through to the end.

SunnyL Fri 15-Feb-13 10:24:04

My DH said absolutely flat no to my boy name until he sat watching F1 and I pointed out that boring names don't tend to sound so good when they get on the podium. He is convinced our child is going to be an F1 champion so hey presto I got my more interesting boy name over his rubbish ones.

My girl name is technically a family name on DH's side but the reason I've picked it is nothing to do with it. I just like it.

I'm being superstitious though and won't share them with anyone. Even here.

Sunbeam18 Fri 15-Feb-13 10:34:11

Great names! Rex is so cute, and Audrey very cool! My favourites at the moment are Keir and Theo. We also like Logie (my grandpa's name) xx
Thanks for the legging tips!

forgetmenots Fri 15-Feb-13 10:41:37

Keir was on our list too Sunbeam, love it. smile definitely will be a traditional Scottish name one way or the other!

pinkapples Fri 15-Feb-13 13:31:43

We think either Amelia or Rhiya for baby pink we have a mega short surname (3 letters) so have a 3 syllable middle name after hubby's sister who died

redwellybluewelly Fri 15-Feb-13 13:59:28

I have some legging for Jojomamanbebe and some jeans - blooming lovely and comfy. Not got quite enough bumpage yet to really keep the jeans up but they are much better to sit at a desk in.

Names. I heard the name I will call this bump today, not sharing with anyone, not even DH but it will (oh yes it will) be babies name grin

lovely names so far, I know a Freya and an Esme too

AmIGoingMad Fri 15-Feb-13 15:06:44

Hello all!

How are you feeling mrsbri?

I'm loving the names! It's a bit of an obsession of mine at the moment as you might notice from the three threads I started on the names board within a few hours of each other! Someone asked where that can be found. If you're on an iPhone go to
Home> topics> becoming a parent> baby names
I don't know how to link sorry!
I've got a few on the short list so far and have mentioned a few to DH and asked for his ideas too.
DS would have been Evie Grace but not certain now. Think I want to have two or three definite maybes by the big day and make final decision when I see my daughter! Oo that that sounds lovely- daughter!smile

For leggings I found new look maternity and asos maternity ones brilliant! My only concern is them being over bump- last time that was amazing and I'm loving the comfort of them now but am wondering how they'll be come may/June.

Mawgatron- good luck catching up with marking! I'm coming to the end of my half term and the books are still where I left them last fri. Oh dear- Sundays going to be great! hmm

Olimoss Fri 15-Feb-13 17:21:31

Just wanted to let you know my Isabella Oliver dresses just arrived and they are really aces. Not the cheapest but on sale at the moment, and will def see me through to the end.

I got:


And another tshirt dress which I can't find now. Anyway impressed with the quality and good enough for fancy but relaxed enough for work or casual.

Just in case you were looking. The ruching is front and back so nicely camouflages excess pregnancy butt as well as gut!

MrsBri Fri 15-Feb-13 18:06:41

Hi AmI, I'm OK. It was nice to work from home, so I'm nowhere near as exhausted as I normally am by now.

We've started the move now too, which is fantastic :-) If chaotic! We are moving some stuff now and the rest in the morning, then we are done. So exciting!

It's amazing how much can be fitted into a flat.

DontmindifIdo Fri 15-Feb-13 18:21:49

Names - well I thought we were terribly organised on the boy name front - Benedict being first choice, Oscar as a 'fall back' if he didn't look like a Benedict. So this week we've had Oscar being the name of a girlfriend murderer and Benedict being the pope who resigned (and I'd worry a week or so after naming said baby some big scandal will come out behind that...) <stamps feet> it's not fair! We had it sorted for boys. There are no other names we both like that work with our surname and DS's name. Don't want to have to start again.

For girls, DH has shit ideas that sounds like an early 80s class register different taste to me, so I've given him my list to pick from, he likes Eloise and "doesn't mind" Agatha. Agatha is my fav girls name, but DH is campaigning well that Eloise or Ellie goes well with DS's name. I do have to conceed Eloise does work better than Agatha with DS's name so might sway that way... (All other names he's refused point blank, and she'd be his DD too)

Sarah - from your list i like Elsa Madeleine.

DontmindifIdo Fri 15-Feb-13 18:23:42

Re over the bump vs under the bump - I found at the end, all the below bump ones just fell down, so even if they'll be hot towards the end, at least your arse won't be hanging out...

Sarah2506 Fri 15-Feb-13 20:33:33

On the names thing I'm also interested to know what you are doing about surnames? We are married but I didn't change my name. Baby will have both. Never really saw why it should automatically follow that she would have his name. In my office people have given them both names, or a DD gets the wife's and a Ds the husbands and so on. Or just given the whole family a new name! What are you doing?

AlohaMama Fri 15-Feb-13 21:06:05

Dontmind I wouldn't worry about the pope. I can't imagine most people will be thinking about it in a few months, let alone all the rest of dc's life. Same with Oscar. Just wait and see how you feel about the names when dcis born. Love Eloise. Agatha is a nice name but are there nice nicknames? Not loving Aggie for example...

Some beautiful names mentioned, especially for girls. Lots beginning with E?! I wouldn't worry about pope or Oscar P as no one will make the connection.
I really like Oliver/Ollie and Oscar but my SiL has 2 dogs with they names!! Currently like caleb, Finley and Jacob. Why is it so difficult?!
I bought some maternity leggings from next but they're not great, very baggy around the crotch area. Currently rolling my normal ones down! Any recommendations for tights?
I'm exhausted this evening, slept dreadful last night so came to bed early this evening and can't sleep!

Sunbeam18 Fri 15-Feb-13 21:56:26

I've had a really worrying evening. Sorry if this is TMI but i wonder if anyone else has suffered from this. Tonight I had lots of bleeding in the toilet after doing a poo. The bleeding was, I'm sure, from my bum and not vagina but got a big fright. I wasn't constipated or in any pain. My sister reckons it must be piles internally that I didn't know about. Has anyone had this or got suggestions on what I should do. It was a lot of bright red blood, but none at all since and none on knickers or when wiping front. Sorry, this is horrible and embarrassing.

Sarah2506 Fri 15-Feb-13 22:09:58

Hi sunbeam. Caveating that I'm not a doctor so if worried then please contact one. However I do have a bowel disease and good knowledge of the area! Bright red tends to mean it is either piles or tiny cuts called fissures. The time to worry is if it appears to be actually in your poo, and flowing freely from the exit point, if its dark or mixed with mucus. I have to watch mine like a hawk for signs of changes. I have what you describe occasionally and this, for me, is piles or fissures and nothing to worry about. Does this help? Def mention to midwife at next appointment though!

Ooh names. No idea what we'll go for this time! The boys name we had for DD I've gone off completely - William. We knew the triplets were boys, and used up our 3 favourite boy names for them, and had family middle names. Didn't bother thinking of girls names.

Since we don't know what this one is (due to non-cooperation at 2 scans so far...), we're trying to come up with a boys name and a girls name and not having much luck with either.

DD has suggested Rosie, Matilda, Peter or Jack (very sensible! And I actually quite like Peter.). DS wants a sister with the same name as him. So not too much help from them grin Girls names I like are Madeleine, Genevieve, Esther, that's about it so far.

Re maternity clothes, I only started wearing them this week grin not quite sure how I've managed, but finally broke out my old maternity jeans and they're v v comfy. I've also been given a bunch of stuff - from my sister and friends, so I need to weed through that and sort out what's in a fit state to wear. Soon...

DontmindifIdo Fri 15-Feb-13 23:49:24

Pooh rue, genevieve is on my girls name list, however dh vetoed on the grounds too many letters! I like esther as well, and the biblical Esther was a good 'un! (oh I might have to add esther to the list)

Aloha- aggie as a nickname is dhs sticking point on agatha, while we aren't Scottish, our surname is Scottish, and he thinks it sounds like "the pensioner running the post office in some tiny Scottish village".

Sunbeam if its just the once don't panic but do mention it to your mw.
If it happens more frequently visit your gp.
I've had another dreadful nights sleep. I'm tried but just can't sleep! Going to tire myself out with a bit of shopping then hopefully have an afternoon nap!

Rue after triplets and a dd how are you just getting into mat clothes now?!! There really isn't hope for me, dc 1 and I've lived in mine for weeks!!! Well not fully true I'm trying to mix and match. Normally size 10 and wore a size 8 non maternity dress yesterday but my tights were torture!!

AlohaMama Sat 16-Feb-13 08:52:37

I can relate to the tiredness littlemiss, earlier stood at the front door pressing the button on my car keys wondering why the front door wasn't opening. Tried to explain to my dh it was because I was tired but only managed to say it was because I was cold. We live in Hawaii, he was a bit hmm

massagegirl Sat 16-Feb-13 09:28:28

Fully embracing maternity jeans... Would it be wrong to wear them when I'm no longer pregnant? Off to a nearly new sale, I hear they are pretty hectic... Wish me luck!

AmIGoingMad Sat 16-Feb-13 10:21:46

Happy moving today mrsbri!

Sunbeam- it's worth going to the doc but not cos I think it's something you should worry about, just as he/she will be able to give you something to make it more comfortable. I had exact same thing (from sound of what you've written) about 6 weeks into pregnancy after a serious bout of constipation. When I could go it was so painful and quite a lot of blood. As someone's said- dr said I had a fissure and gave me cream to make going less painful and prescribed fybogel. I didn't get on with fybogel at all and found benefiber powder from boots much better (I checked with dr that it was ok in pregnancy).

With maternity tights I find debenhams ones really comfy.

Which maternity jeans do you have? Tried loads last time and couldn't find any comfy ones!

On names front I'm pretty traditional I suppose and took DH's name so don't have that dilemma at the moment. The baby's first name is enough for me right now! Think we'll have one of those E names-DS has a name beginning with E too-purely coincidental!

Don't mind I wouldn't worry about those events and relations to names. As someone said earlier- see how you feel at the time.

Aloha I'm doing things like that all the time at the minute!
Got a few bargains in tk maxx this morning. I never usually go in but thought I'd give it a try. Got a dream genie pillow for £25 and a couple of gro swaddle wraps.
Mrs Bri hope the moves going well. I'm off for a lie down!!

Hawkmoth Sat 16-Feb-13 13:52:52

Re names, I'm worried that I william a nice traditional name, only for the new royal to be called it and then there be a tidal wave of them! I think this may be fairly paranoid but hey ho! Also kicking myself as ds has two middle names which we now obviously can't use if this is another boy. It's very difficult, so I've pretty much given up and hoping it will come out with a name tag or something!

Littlemiss I have no idea! My theory is that it all got so stretched last time round that there's plenty of saggy and baggy room in there this time without having to stick out in front grin. I have been surprised by how much better I feel physically this time though. Long may it continue!

Mawgatron Sat 16-Feb-13 18:02:36

Been sorting out the spare room today, it's making me really excited! Set up nursing chair and have been running around with a tape measure working out where to put everything. And I caved and bought my first baby clothes - 4 pack of little vests and a 4 pack of tees.
Feel like its all starting properly now!
Second vote for debenhams maternity tights, although only the black ones. I am reasonably tanned and the nude ones looked a bit freakish as they were too light and thick denier- made my legs look like mannequin's legs.
Hope the move is going ok mrs bri! I remember how stressful our move was (6yrs ago), so I don't envy you...

SunnyL Sat 16-Feb-13 18:46:34

My sister is truly mega ace. She's just sent me a detailed itinerary of all the baby stuff in her loft that she's giving me including web links so I can know what the feck some of this stuff is. With my sister in law also promising me a heap of stuff I think the only things we're going to need to buy in the first 6 months is a baby monitor and a breast pump.

Phew! I don't know how she did it first time round. She was 26 on minimum wage whereas I'm 32 on a proper professional salary and yet the cost of this stuff is still making me go pale.

Sisters are ace.

MrsBri Sat 16-Feb-13 18:56:12

Hi everyone :-)

Quick check in...totally exhausted and house nowhere near sorted. Still need to clean some of the old flat too.

But, the lounge, bedroom and kitchen are sorted, so we can at least relax after dinner!

DontmindifIdo Sat 16-Feb-13 19:02:08

Mawgatron - I've been emptying the spare room and cleaning the carpet too - of course that's not going to be the baby's room, DS is going in there then I have to do it all again for the baby's room... Soo glad we are doing it now.

I think I should win the tiredness one - as well as normal pregnancy tiredness, DS was ill last night, i got a grand total of 4 hours sleep. I kept wanting to cry this morning. I've decided to ignore the coffee limits today. Only way I'm still functioning. That and creme eggs, I swear the baby is craving them... wink

Sarah2506 Sat 16-Feb-13 19:57:58

Ditto on the cleaning out room front. We've gutted the spare room and reckon we can actually keep the nice double bed: we thought we'd have to sacrifice it to make enough room but its looking good. Spent lots of time on the web today. Reckon we will get a Bednest, and a Quinny Buzz. And that's as far as we got today! So jealous of the sister! I have FIVE sisters in law. They all have kids. They aren't having more. Not one has offered us anything. Kind of gutted about that. I know they have it going spare. DH is only boy, and was last to marry and last to have kids and its like they've done it so many times before they just don't give a toss!

DontmindifIdo Sat 16-Feb-13 20:31:08

Sarah, have you thought to ask any of them if they've kept any of their baby things and say if they wanted to clear out in your direction you'll happily take hand-me-downs? However if they are all done having DCs, they might not have kept much... I think this will be our last and I'll be binning stuff/charity shopping it as and when this DC outgrows it... Definately ask - they might like to clear out the lofts...

Even if they haven't kept newborn stuff, by flagging up that you'll take hand me downs, they might start saving anything their DCs outgrow now, you might have a couple of years of storing bags of stuff in your loft until your DC is big enough to wear it, but it'll be worth it, particularly if any of them have good taste in children's wear...

AmIGoingMad Sat 16-Feb-13 22:24:02

Sunny that's great about your sister and sisters in law!

Mrsbri- glad the move went well smile

Don'tmind- hope your DS gets better soon bless.

I seem to have predicted correctly and am now full of cold passed on by DS. Got some berocca in for DH but I obviously can't have that. Can you all rind me again of what you said is ok to use in pregnancy to make the evil lurgy bearable?

redwellybluewelly Sat 16-Feb-13 22:36:57

AmI its honey and lemon drinks with paracetamol, rest and fluids.

I'm quite quiet as dd is very poorly and she loving passed on the bug, sat up all last night with her and tonight looks to be the same. She has never had a chest infection before but I think that might be what it is

AlohaMama Sat 16-Feb-13 23:00:29

Sorry to hear you're all sick sad

MrsBri - well done on the move, hope you get settled quickly. I remember staying up late in the evenings cleaning our old flat 3 days before baby was born.

Sounds like everybody is busy nesting and sorting. I am kind of doing that, not so much for baby, but more because...we might end up moving back to England in August. All up in the air right now and we won't know for sure for a couple of months, but rather than have to get things ready to ship/sell/sell a house etc in the last few months of pregnancy I'd rather tackle it now just in case. I guess I'd better get on with it then...

redwellybluewelly Sat 16-Feb-13 23:04:11

Well done on the move MrsBri, dont overdo it though!

Hope poorly people get well soon, I have to go do a full day at work tomorrow and then a full week at work, I keep forgetting I'm pg.

MrsBri Sun 17-Feb-13 07:26:33

I hope you got some sleep last night, redwelly. Exhaustion and pregnancy do not go together. Is your DD any better?

I'm trying not to overdo it, but I found it frustrating being told to not get involved, so I did load the car a couple of times with light stuff like pillows and duvets, just to be more helpful. :-)

And I had to sort the kitchen and decide on which cupboards were used for what as DH wouldn't dare!

Baby B was having a whale of a time while I was having a bath last night (we only had a shower in the flat) and we were watching my belly move...DH loved it. :-)

Wish I could sleep longer to get a nice lie in. Doesn't really happen much though. Boo! Any other early risers out there?

redwellybluewelly Sun 17-Feb-13 07:39:35

Oh yes. Early risings here due to a small toddler. I got a little more sleep last night but waiting for dh to take over at 8 so I can have another hour.

Dd always loved bathtime whwn she was inside, only time I ever "saw" her move. I can watch this one move even now on its energetic days, one in three are the busy days.

Move sounds not too bad, wish so much we'd moved before dd because moving and then renovating/decorating is impossible with her in the house.

learnermummy Sun 17-Feb-13 07:41:59

Hi all have been busy for last few days so just catching up!
Sunbeam piles are unfortunately quite common, your gp can prescribe you something to clear it up - last pregnancies I've had some suppositories that were great & worked much better than anything you could buy over counter.
I also seem to have caught a cold and have v sore throat - not a lot I can take is there? On top of that I dropped a le creuset on my toe on Friday so have been hobbling around feeling v sorry for myself hmm
DS1 is off to his Nanna's for half term do we 're going to swap DS2 into spare room that way we can fit double bed and cot in together. Will feel a bit more ready after that! Also bought my first baby purchase this week, just some sleep suits but in girly colours. Felt a bit overwhelmed by all the girl clothes - I know where I am with boys!!
Sorry to hear about scare mrsbri hope moving hasn't exhausted you too much.
V jealous of all just into maternity clothes, am suddenly feeling huge this week. Had no idea sainsburys even did maternity wear - is that online or in store?
Blimey that was long! Happy Sunday!

DontmindifIdo Sun 17-Feb-13 08:05:13

another bad night with DS, how am I going to do this with 2?????

I'm not normally someone who takes much time off work and will be at my desk when like death warmed up, but I've just thought "sod it" - if he's too ill for nursery tomorrow, I'm not ringing round relatives to beg someone to have him, I'm calling in sick myself. I genuinely don't care anymore, which is surprising, as I was pregnant with DS I was still very committed to work and wanted to do a good job, but this time round it feels like I've mentally left already, and I've got 10 weeks to go!

I forgot to ask the midwife I saw on Friday for my Mat B1 form, when do you have to have given to work? Not sure if I can book another appointment to get it...

I've also got a stinking cold hmm
My midwife posted out my mat B1 form as I don't see her till 26 weeks. it should be handed in 15 weeks before expected due date so at 25 weeks for those not got a planned elcs.
I still don't know when to finish. I have 4 weeks annual leave to use, not sure whether to use it all as a block and finish at 34 weeks or finish at 35/36 weeks and use it to have some shorter weeks for a few weeks. (iykwim?!) I need to make a decision this week. My mat policy is rubbish so I'm not keen to actually start mat leave too early as sooner I start sooner I stop getting paid!

DontmindifIdo Sun 17-Feb-13 08:59:37

thanks little miss - I'll call up tomorrow and get them to post it to me, or see if I can swing by and just pick it up...

Sarah2506 Sun 17-Feb-13 09:36:01

After yesterday's mega clear out we now need to fill up with baby stuff. I realised I am clueless. Could you help me?! So if I get a basket or a bed nest etc then she will presumably sleep in that for six months, in with us. So does this mean we don't need to buy a cot? Cots seem to come in many sizes so not sure what we would need. After six months I guess she is in the spare room, which will be her room. What would she sleep in at that point? Some cots have sides that come off so that would presumably see her through a while? But then there are some massive cots, when would you want them?

MrsBri Sun 17-Feb-13 09:44:41

Littlemiss...a word of warning is that your mat leave will start the day after you give birth. If you're still on annual leave you're likely to lose any holiday and therefore pay you haven't used.

I also have 4 weeks' leave to take, so am finishing at 34 weeks but starting mat leave at 38 weeks. Hoping Baby B doesn't come more than 2 weeks early!

And Sarah, the larger cots are probably cot beds which transform into a bed to see them through til 4 years old ish. That is what we are getting as it works out more cost effective. And we have the Moses basket for when baby is in with us. Baby will probably transfer to the nursery once I'm sure he's sleeping through. :-)

DontmindifIdo Sun 17-Feb-13 09:56:45

We bought a cotbed for DS, he's 3 now and could easily get at least another year out of it, but will be putting him in a single bed now to put the baby in the cot.

He did look insanely small in it when he was little though! Word of warning, I intended DS to sleep inthe moses basket for 6 months, however after 8 weeks, he'd taken to sleeping wiht his arms out and was waking himself up in the basket, thankfully my Dad wanted to buy the cot bed so we already had it set up in the nursery.

Mrs Bri my work have said that any AL not used I can take before I return back to work. It's so difficult! I really want some time at home to get organised so 3 weeks AL then 1 week mat leave may be the way to go?
Sarah we are getting a crib for our room as friends have said not many babies will still fit in a Moses basket at 6 months and no room in our bedroom for a cot. We're getting the John Lewis gliding crib.
In babies room we have ordered a cot bed and a wardrobe as no furniture in there at minute and I'm going to use baby's room to keep all his clothes, nappies toys etc. hoping to use that room to get him changed after bath etc and for daytime naps when he's a little older to get him used to it.

DontmindifIdo Sun 17-Feb-13 09:58:41

LittleMiss - although you lose the time if you are forced to start mat leave earlier due to the baby arriving, you will have to be paid for the holiday days you are owed at the end of the year, so that might fund extra time at the other end.

Sunbeam18 Sun 17-Feb-13 19:10:44

I think the holiday thing depends upon your company policy. I've been told by HR that I won't lose holiday if the baby is born while I am still on annual leave. I could just take the outstanding holiday at the end instead of the beginning.

MrsBri Sun 17-Feb-13 19:21:41

That's good. Apparently we lose it, but I'm wondering how that can be legal. That's law firms for you! :-/

Withalittlesparkle Sun 17-Feb-13 19:26:26

I'm allowed to use my annual leave from this year, and select how much from next year I want to use to top up my maternity pay OR extend my maternity leave I've gone with the later, but waiting for HR to send me a letter confirming my change! It means I get 60 months off with baby smile we also accrue bank holidays and 'closed days'

Crib/cot/cot beds wise, they should all be a standard size!! So Moses baskets and cribs are first size to use for first 6th months (or as long as your baby fits in it!) then cots/cot beds come after the 6 month mark (or sooner if you have a chunky monkey), cot beds are bigger and designed to be used as first beds!!

We've got a family crib (was husbands) and a Moses basket for downstairs if we want it (sisters) and the ordered a cot bed! We'll have nursery set up before baby arrives

Yeah that doesn't sound right mrs Bri.
I think I'm going to take 3 weeks AL and use the other 5 days throughout April/May. Wish we didn't have to decide now!!

AmIGoingMad Sun 17-Feb-13 20:10:24

The mat leave thing is already confusing me! Want to have some time with DS before DD arrives but also want to get as much time paid as possible afterwards. As I teach I don't accrue hols whilst off ( think they might do in Scotland though).

Hope DD and DS are better soon redwelly and dontmind. Our DS still has his cold but he also had icky tummy now bless him. So far myself and DH have just caught the cold part!

We had a Moses basket in our room for a bit then somehow managed to fit the cotbed in there instead. Moved cotbed into DS room and he's still sleeping in it but I'd like to get him into a single a month or so before DD arrives so he doesn't feel ousted. I think DH thinks that we should wait as long as possible before that expense but I don't want it to be done when baby arrives as it could well mean DS thinks she's stealing his bed! Maybe I'm over thinking? Wouldn't be the first time!

DontmindifIdo Sun 17-Feb-13 20:17:55

MrsBri - does your holiday year run Jan to Jan? Because it's down to the company's discretion if they let you carry it over to the next holiday year to take it at the end of your maternity leave, however if you don't do that, you have to be paid out for that holiday either when you come back or if they want to, they can pay you for the days at the end of the holiday entitlement year.

So, if yours runs Jan to Jan and you have the baby when say, you have 4 days holiday leave left, in your Jan pay, along with SMP you'll get those 4 days pay.

Does that make sense? It's down to them if they want to let you have the time or the money.

MrsBri Sun 17-Feb-13 20:30:08

That makes sense as we aren't allowed to carry over. I go back on 2nd Jan anyway, so could potentially swap the end of my mat leave for holiday, or just get paid in Jan.

Bearing in mind my company thinks it can ask me to make time up for antenatal appointments, it wouldn't surprise me if they think they can also steal my holiday / pay!

Sarah2506 Sun 17-Feb-13 20:39:50

Also payment for holiday only applies to the stat minimum which I believe is 20 days. So you can be paid for those but if you get 30 days holiday they only have to pay for 20.

learnermummy Mon 18-Feb-13 07:18:50

Withalittlesparkle how are you managing 60 months off??
Must really sit down and work out my leave. Boss is so disorganised he'll probably mess it up anyway...

Mawgatron Mon 18-Feb-13 07:28:15

That is the one benefit of working in a big secondary school, they are really organised with maternity leave and have led me through the whole process. Gonna take a year, then ideally go back part time. They are going to work out a breakdown for me of wages if I went down to 3 or 4 days a week so I can work it all out.

On a different note... I AM TOO EXCITED TODAY! Want my little man now! Think it is all the nesting etc that is contributing to that. I'm on half term so I have time off to watch OBEM and plan things.
Friend is passing on lots of 2nd hand bits and bobs on Wednesday - Moses basket, clothes etc. But, should I take her electric breast pump? Kind of want to, they are so bloody expensive, but I have also been reeding scaremonger stories online...the thing is, are those stories just there to make you buy new all the time? Because surely it wouldn't be sanitary to use a new one, then potentially wait a few years and use it again with your next child if milk had leaked into it somewhere? Surely mouldy old milk would be unsanitary whether it is yours or not?

AlohaMama Mon 18-Feb-13 07:53:37

mawgatron it may depend on the pump. I have one from ds (Medela pump in style) which I have stored since then. I'm replacing the parts that the milk runs through (in the case of the one I've got it's just the tubes, breast shields and valves). The main bulk of it is just a pump/motor and the milk doesn't come into contact with it. I know they say don't use a second hand one, but if you replace certain parts (and you can normally buy accessories kits/replacement parts fairly easily) I can't see how it would be a problem. Maybe have a look at it and see if you can work out how it works, and ensure you can replace bits you need to.

I thought sparkle was doing quite well for maternity - 60 months off!! Wow!

Olimoss Mon 18-Feb-13 09:19:15

Gosh you are all sounding so organised - I am feeling a bit behind!

Hope the move finishes well, MrsBri.

AlohaMama - do you want to come back to the UK? Big move!

I wanted to ask you all - in terms of sleeping I keep reading you should really sleep on your left side as far as possible, particularly from the stage we are all at now onwards. I try to fall asleep on my left side (surrounded by pillows, the boyfriend has an iceberg's chance in hell of getting anywhere near me with all the bolstering!) but I am so MUCH more comfortable on my right side, or on my back, kind of 3/4 tilted against a pillow (so not lying flat, if that makes sense).

Should I do anything more or do you think our bodies will tell us if it's just too awful to lie on our backs? I know it's to do with a major nerve and blood supply....

I have, after spending the first half of this pregnancy not putting on weight and being really happy about that, seriously started to pork out. Worried as 15 weeks to go...!

forgetmenots Mon 18-Feb-13 09:24:12

Olimoss I found the dreamgenii pillow helped but I'm keen to see if anyone knows more about this - I like to sleep on left and right sides but I worry about turning in the night...

Olimoss Mon 18-Feb-13 09:34:50

Oh I've seen that pillow but it kind of weirds me out with the built in 'arm' hugging you! I was wondering about whether to just get a couple of good quality V shaped pillows...

massagegirl Mon 18-Feb-13 09:58:41

I've done quite a lot of pregnsncy training but am no expert. Left hand side is optimal for getting baby into best birthing position but ultimately sleep how you are comfy. If you sleep on your back your body will wake you up if its struggling (feeling sick, dizzy etc) but side laying is ideal if you can. Like I say just what I've been told so not gospel. I go to pregnancy class and the teacher said that's what is important is that you get sleep!

Sarah2506 Mon 18-Feb-13 10:37:14

I was told much the same re sleeping. I aim for left or right but ultimately you are always going to move in the night. I tend to find that baby wakes me up if I lie on my back, in a sweet but annoying 'I really don't like this position mum' way. I read somewhere that there is no way you would ever be able to stay in a position long enough for it to actually hurt you and ultimately you shouldn't worry. I still occasionally wake up almost on my front. I am starting to fantasise about sleeping on my front again!

I am stressed today. We spent a lot of time researching prams etc only to discover pretty much nothing will fit in the boot of the car. I love my car. It’s a new beetle. It is not designed for children at all!

I am in the office. It is 1030. Someone has brought in a massive tray of crispy creams, a box of quality street and some satsumas for their birthday. I have had two satsumas as that didn't seem indecent. At what point is it acceptable to go over, break the seal and start shoving everything in my mouth? In public?!

MrsBri Mon 18-Feb-13 10:39:37

I use the dreamgenii and position it for right sided sleeping. I do switch between left and right and you still get a bit of bump support, so you can change sides. I just prefer right sided sleep though.

I had found I kept waking on my back, which was strange as I never sleep that way, but the pillow has stopped that, thankfully.

MrsBri Mon 18-Feb-13 10:40:32

Now is fine, Sarah! :-)

Olimoss Mon 18-Feb-13 10:45:03

Reassuring, thanks all.

Donuts are go, Sarah! I'm about to crack into some slice I made on the weekend, as breakfast number 2. Keep me going till Lunch number 1.

Sarah2506 Mon 18-Feb-13 10:56:35

This is the title of an email just received:

Lime Ginger and Toffee Cheesecake in the usual place - please help yourself

It's like they are trying to feed me:-)

peardrop2 Mon 18-Feb-13 11:10:01

Ahh I just replied to the sleeping post on the wrong thread shock Wanted to say that sleeping on both of my sides is not comfy for me. Weirdly I'd rather sleep on my back but I know it's a no no hmm Also want to say stuffing face in public is totally acceptable during pregnancy wink DH cleaned my car yesterday and found all my secret chocolate wrappers. I'm now on a strict no chocolate diet for a couple of days hmm

DontmindifIdo Mon 18-Feb-13 11:11:59

Sarah, pig out - my view is, this is probably my last pregnancy. After I have had this baby and finished breast feeding, i'll go on a diet. After I'm back to my 'pre baby weight' I'll probably have to continue vigilence on my weight/diet as being well in my 30s and having had DCs, it's very easy to gain weight and takes effort to remain the same size.

This means, once you factor in breast feeding, I have about 10 - 12 months of not watching what I eat and worrying about it, followed by about 30 years of self denial and restraint.

When you look at it that way, why would you waste any of this golden time in your adult life when you really can eat anything without worrying about it?

Crack open the cheesecake with a doughnut topping. grin

DontmindifIdo Mon 18-Feb-13 11:15:14

Sarah - re prams and boots, can you check if you can get a frame at least and then the seat/cot unit on the spare back seat? While I could get all of my icandy in the boot of my fiesta, I often couldn't be bothered (as it had to go in a particular way to fit) so would just stick the cot top on theback seat/in the rear foot well.

Seems exessive to change your much loved car over this!

Olimoss Mon 18-Feb-13 11:16:22

Don'tMind - I might adopt that as my mantra and just see what level of porkage I can achieve.....

peardrop2 Mon 18-Feb-13 11:40:17

I would love to relax and keep eating chocolate but I feel if I did I would loose control! It helps to know Summer is on its way...don't want to be a fat mummy shock Is anyone else using to the Davina antenatal DVD?

Sarah2506 Mon 18-Feb-13 11:43:20

I am now in love with Don'tMind. Much better advice than this five a day, good nutrition nonsense. Anyone going to the babyshow this weekend in london?

massagegirl Mon 18-Feb-13 12:00:23

I am using Davina but find it a bit too chilled out so am also swimming and walking. Sarah we were supposed to go to the London baby show on saturday but actually I've changed my mind as think I might get swept up in it all and spend too much money, I am also rubbish in places like that at the moment, get all hot and bothered. Have fun though, hope you get some bargains!

Olimoss Mon 18-Feb-13 12:25:13

The thought of a baby show frightens me, I'm afraid. I already refused the list of stuff we 'have' to get from the lady at John Lewis, and she looked at me like I was crazy!

pinkapples Mon 18-Feb-13 12:34:38

I am going to the show in London on Saturday early breakfast then hopefully a day of bargain hunting for big stuff like the pram and furniture so excitedgrin

june2013 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:16:44

Hi everyone - I just found this today. I've read through the whole thread, it's really nice to have a place to hang out / share / chat!

I'm writing because I am soooo tired today. I'm not usually knackered on Mondays (as in no more than normal) but I'm really struggling today!! Falling asleep on my computer... I have to power through til 7pm - any tips? I can't have coffee at this time or I won't sleep tonight (should have had a stronger one this morning clearly), does chocolate or anything else do the trick? I'm too far from home to go and have a power nap! Argh! I wanna SLEEP!!

Also been reading the sleeping arrangements conversations with interest. I get so overwhelmed with what I need to buy and actually making a choice when faced with 50 different cot / pram types and well meaning advice. A good friend recommended an Inglesina Carrycot (a lying down thing - this is probably obvious to everyone else but me), which apparently can be used in the car too, though not sure this applies in the UK (she's Italian and uses it here all the same). But then when I asked her about what she had bought in more detail, it turns out she bought another pram system when the baby was 6 months old (the inglesina pushchair thing was too heavy apparently). The inglesina system is 800 euros already. People don't really buy a whole new system at 6months do they?? I've delegated this decision making to my husband who seems quite happy to have practical things to do, but being a total control freak I have many opinions of course! Only reason I am thinking about travel system is that we're hoping to go abroad for a few days a month after the baby is due (if labour all goes ok & is on time). This will involve coach, plane, car, metro and train travel... so not sure what is best way to carry the baby around! Sling & car seat I am thinking....

Zzzzzzz I'm so tired I think I might go and buy a mars bar and hope for a sugar rush!

peardrop2 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:27:02

June - sometimes a little walk around the office helps me or a window open for a bit. I know how you feel though its exhausting ploughing on in the office!

maisiebeem Mon 18-Feb-13 14:27:53

I was desperate to go to the baby show, unfortunately double booked myself! Baby brain!
Who ever goes hope you have a fantastic time!
I have just been sent home from work with a bad back, horrible head cold and incredibly tired as can't sleep with the back/cold combo! Joy! All I want is neurofen cold and flu!
As for the eating- the cheesecake with a donut topping sounds ideal! pear I had a horrible realisation last night when I went to my secret chocolate stash only to find that I had eaten my last bar without realising! Think I will have to send dh out on a sweet treat shop!
I went to my first nearly new sale at the weekend- got my first few bits, although I am team yellow I found my self drifting towards the blue rails! So got some unisex- yet probably meant for boys baby grows!! It is all becoming so real and even more exciting!
Hope Monday is treating everyone well!

P.s. sarah my brother and sister in law recommended to us to get a mclaren techno xt(?) or something like that, it's not a travel system at all, but apparently was easy to store, went flat for baby, and was pod for getting in and out of car- bus - train etc. I really want a pram/pushchair that faces me, so I'm ignoring their advise- but may be helpful to some people! Plus it's cheaper than most and lasted them for both their children.

Long message- sorry!

peardrop2 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:40:07

Sarah - yes that's a good tip Re Mclaren pram. My mum is going to buy one because she won't be able to carry our bugaboo as its too heavy for her. Apparently the Maclaren is the lightest and highly recommended for travel according to my friends. You can also use from birth to toddler.

SunnyL Mon 18-Feb-13 14:42:20

Greetings all from Sri Lanka. Flying long haul at 24 weeks was ok apart from stupidly wearing my jeans. Felt like I needed to pee constantly which did mean I did the stand up and walk around thing every half an hour much to the irritation of the grumpy teenager I was sat next to. Unfortunately AirLanka are gits and wouldn't upgrade me just for being pregnant. The guy who had a heart attack over Saudi Arabia did get upgraded though!

On the sleeping on your side thing - left is also meant to be good for people suffering from varicose veins. I've had them since I was about 18 and they've never really bothered me but at the moment they look quite gross and are hot and itchy.

LexiLexi Mon 18-Feb-13 15:32:34

Welcome june! We are thinking of traveling with our baby too, worth looking into which car seats are approved for use on the plane as not all are. We chose the Maxi Cosi Pebble as it is also compatible with many travel systems (we are still undecided but will prob plump for the iCandy Peach Jogger). Parent facing is a priority for us too, maisie

Managed to pick up a Stokke Sleepi, off eBay. Any ideas on mattress choice? Should we go Coco? Seem to think that there may be concerns with some of the synthetic/ foam types but haven't read anything specific.

Sarah2506 Mon 18-Feb-13 16:01:15

I'm not planning on doing a huge amount of shopping at the babyshow. Its more about checking things out that you may not see in shops, like the babyBay we quite fancy at the moment. I'm hoping there will be lots of free samples?! I doubt we will last very long. It's not entirely the sort of environment I want to be in right now, and to be honest, can you imagine what the queue for the ladies will be like?!?!?

Mawgatron Mon 18-Feb-13 16:01:49

Oh let me know if you find a bargain mattress lexi, we are picking up our sleepi on Friday (that we won on eBay). Haven't really done much in the way of research, thought we would probably just get the cheapest one. Is that bad?

maisiebeem Mon 18-Feb-13 16:05:38

I haven't though much about mattresses, but have looked into those little pillow things- not actual pillow, but they are meant to help to prevent "flat head" by allowing the pressure of baby's head to be spread out evenly- supposedly. Have seen them in jojo and John Lewis.

We haven't really shopped about for our mattress. Just went for the best one that mothercare did. It's a pocket sprung which is meant to be loads better than foam and spring so I'm hoping he will get a good few years out of it in his cot bed.
Mattresses for crib is a different story, JL only seem to do one that fits the JL crib. Reviews are good but not sure whether its the best out there. DH thinks we should just get it but I read somewhere with mattresses (and most stuff to do with babies !) buy the best that you can afford.

pinkbear82 Mon 18-Feb-13 17:16:01

<pops head round corner> hello everyone I'm a bit new to all of this!

Due 5 June with 1st DC for me and 3rd for DP. Haven't found out which variety for us much to DPs annoyance!

Bubs is currently squashing the tube from my kidney to bladder which is causing quite a lot of pain and means I'm currently off sick so trying to figure out what I do re mat leave and when to start etc.

You all sound super organised - I have one baby gro and that's it so far. Do have a lovely friend who is making a list of what she has and is more than happy to pass along which is lovely.

I shall leave it there for now.smile

pinkapples Mon 18-Feb-13 17:31:33

Yep ill second that your all sounding very organised I have no clue thought ill just buy what I think and hope for the best is that naive or no? Think it will be alright as long as we get proper mattress etc should b alright

Welcome pink bear and June congratulations! smile

pinkbear82 Mon 18-Feb-13 18:45:43

Ty littlemiss smile

bshorty Mon 18-Feb-13 19:24:26

Hello. I'm just introducing myself. I've been an avid reader for quite a while but not had the courage to post. Feel a bit guilty for not contributing so here I am. I'm due 10th of June and we're having a boy. Had my 24 week check up today and everything is on track. We have done some decorating and are putting up some wall stickers. I have bought a few little things, a cot and a Moses basket just cos can't afford to buy everything at once. Counting down til pay day as usual.

bshorty Mon 18-Feb-13 19:28:33

It must be a day for coming out the closet pinkbear

redwellybluewelly Mon 18-Feb-13 19:31:11

Hello new people and bumps!

24weeks today, 15 weeks until eviction (although exact CS date tbc) and I have bump ache, anyone else? DH got home from work to find me in the bath entertaining DD with bubbles. Think I might have overdone it at the weekend but not sure how? Being very careful with lifting and carrying DD, I did do a weeks food shop and work all day Sunday.

In fact DH has sent me to bed and offered to bring my dinner up, DD unsettled anyway so no point in going up and down the stairs.

We've been offered a brand new cot bed with brand new mattress for dd, baby can tgen have the smaller cot. What we're going to do with the brand new single bed in the meantime I have no idea!

pinkbear82 Mon 18-Feb-13 19:39:14

Hehehe bshorty - it must be!!
You've got so much more organised than me! I've told DP what colours I'd like in bubs room but that's as far as we've got!

AmIGoingMad Mon 18-Feb-13 19:42:51

Wow it's been a busy day on here today!

Welcome June and Pinkbear!smile

Dontmind you might well be my new hero! Sometimes you just have to have chocolate and its nice not to feel guilty about it for a change!grin

You're all so much more organised than me! My plan for the coming wk/ wkend is to get DSs clothes down from the attic and bundle up ( thanks for the tip redwelly/aloha- I'm sure it was one of you that told me that) ready for my first attempts at eBay. Trying to sell the fertility monitor I bought about 2 days before my bfp too. Haven't a clue what I'm doing so should be interesting!

Mrsbri- are you fully in now and how have you been feeling?

Mawgatron- have a great half term! I went back today and am so tired its unbelievable! I'm doing that annoying thing that teachers do and I swore I wouldn't and already counting down to the next hol!

Ladies I cannot believe how quickly time is going- it's madness!

AmIGoingMad Mon 18-Feb-13 19:44:36

X post- welcome to you too bshorty!smile

pinkbear82 Mon 18-Feb-13 19:46:46

Red my bump has been really 'tight' the last few days and have been finding bending really hard!

I'm currently on the sofa in pjs with the duvet - avoiding the mental dog that's chasing something he thinks he's seen!!

bshorty Mon 18-Feb-13 20:13:05

Thanks for the warm welcome. Think I'm only organised cos I don't have any other DC to run round after. We had a little wait before getting pregnant and had a mmc so I'm now finding it hard to restrain myself from buying everything insight.

MrsBri Mon 18-Feb-13 20:18:27

Hello to all the newbies...welcome to the mad house :-)

We have quite a few bits either bought, ordered or being given to us. In fact, the only thing we are really lacking is clothing, but I'll do a bulk shop in April when I get paid.

We are decorating the nursery next weekend, I think :-) So exciting! It's going to look awesome. I'll put a picture on my profile once it is done.

And yes to tight bump...I think I've had Braxton Hicks today. Took my breath away. But OK now. Baby is going mental now I've eaten. Amuses me how much of a reaction I get to food!

Redwelly, we have a single bed which I wanted to keep in the nursery, but I'm not sure everything will fit now. I need the cot bed to work it all out. The joy of too many beds!

AmI, we are getting there now. We still need to build the little, 2 seater, table and chairs I got for the kitchen and my nursing chair, plus the changing unit once the nursery is painted.

DH needs to unpack his clothes and the computer needs putting back together too. And we have one box left to unpack.

But considering the chaos from the weekend, and even this morning, we are doing really well. If only I could remember the kitchen layout! :-)

I'm utterly wiped out though. Glad I did this now and no later. Who else was planning to move pre-birth?

MrsBri Mon 18-Feb-13 20:20:08

Oh, and the bending is very hard indeed. So I've started to bloody drop every other thing I'm holding onto the floor! I've driving myself bonkers :-/

pinkapples Mon 18-Feb-13 20:28:10

I'm like that a bit bshorty took us 4 t
Years so I keep buying baby grows cant believe its actually happening and soon they'll be a baby in them! gringringrin

Can't wait to decorate baby's room just waitin for my sister to collect the last of her stuff as we've been storing it since she moved back into our mums after splitting up with her boyfriend

And the baby show this weekend with both sets of grandparents spend fest or what! Hehe

peardrop2 Mon 18-Feb-13 20:32:16

After my little health rant earlier today I thought you'd be pleased to hear that I'm going to have a chocolate eclair while watching baby penguins at 9pm. I was good all day after all lasted long wink

MrsBri Mon 18-Feb-13 20:40:55

Ooh...penguins. I'd forgotten that was on. Can't wait!

If anyone isn't quite decided on paint colours, Dulux is selling 3 x 30ml testers for 1 quid, including postage, at the moment, so I've ordered 3 yellows to see which I prefer :-)

Mrs Bri I saw that advert for testers today, after DH and I bought 8 last week!! Think we have decided on a creamy yellow, like a sandy colour. Going to then brighten the room with blue curtains etc.
we're hoping to move in a couple of years, before lo starts school so I l want to keep his room pretty neutral so it sells easier.
I'm off to bed, with 2 pints of water, 2 satsumas and a choc bar! Is anyone else really thirsty at night? I keep getting a dry mouth and feel so thirsty.

AmIGoingMad Mon 18-Feb-13 20:57:16

Me littlemiss! It's been driving me mad! Have to down a pint of water before I go to sleep and then wake in the night! I can't get enough water but mostly in the evening/ during the night.

MrsBri Mon 18-Feb-13 21:01:59

Me too, Littlemiss...drives me mad. Like AmI said though, I'm really thirsty generally, but at night it is chronic.

The ad is what made me order the samples. DH asked me why I'd ordered them...surely it is obvious!

MrsBri Mon 18-Feb-13 21:02:37

Awwww...baby penguins. So adorable!

Mawgatron Mon 18-Feb-13 21:03:45

Welcome new ladies! Hope you are all feeling ok!

Glad I'm not the only one struggling to bend over. It's def getting harder to put shoes on each day.

Finally been feeling lots of kicks over the last few days, it's nice to know that little man is ok. I can actually see it from the outside now too, its nloody weird! Had my 24 week appointment today (a week early) , and everything is healthy and going well.

Bshorty, know what you mean about payday, there are so many things I want to buy but have no cash. I know as soon as I get it I will blow it on loads of baby bits!

Have also been feeling pooped, have been in bed since half six watching movies. Roll on penguins at 9!

cyclecamper Mon 18-Feb-13 21:08:47

littlemiss yes, I'm really thirsty a the time, including at night.

I made myself feel a bit sick sorting out the dining room and taking stuff down to the cellar today. I made space for the tandem that was in the hall so I don't have to move it every time I open the front door, so it was worth it though. It wasn't going to be long before I couldn't squeeze past it to go upstairs so it needed doing! (Dining room is a loose term - we mainly use it for camping and bike storage - it now contains 2 tandems, 2 folders, 8 bikes and a frame!shock)

My husband is still nesting in the form of baking which is totally fab, even though at this rate they'll have to roll me into the hospital! Today's offering was flapjacks. Yesterday was veggie roast and since Friday we have also had scones, galettes and brioche. It's a good thing that my appetite is currently unusually small!

So glad it's not just me. DH was getting worried and reading about gestational diabetes!!

Mawgatron Mon 18-Feb-13 21:20:51

I was worrying about diabetes too, been feeling faint in the afternoons and have type 1 in the family, but my midwife said I need to eat more regularly. Having the glucose test in the Easter hols

redwellybluewelly Mon 18-Feb-13 22:12:25

OK baby can now tickle me from inside and it responds to DH and to DD if they speak close to bump. It particularly likes bedtime stories.

It likes me giggling but goes sleepy after food, and it does this weird thing which feels like a sudden jerk, and is almost painful.

MW tomorrow when I can ask about movements, its odd to think yesterday I was worried after today's frantic gymnastics. And (TMI) swollen labia which I don't remember from dc1. And this bump ache which just lingers. Suspect my decision to work to 37+4 will be questioned as well.

cyclecamper can see how you got your nn!

AmIGoingMad Tue 19-Feb-13 06:55:09

Morning all!

This little one is definitely getting more active too which is nice and reassuring! Most kicks and punches are in the same places but at about 4 this morning she seemed to move position for the first time that I could tell anyway! She's back to her usual again now though.

Have a good day everyone! I'm hoping that today is less tiring than yesterday.

MrsBri Tue 19-Feb-13 07:30:36


Baby B is currently wriggling round and kicking me. He's definitely getting stronger as DH is feeling the movement /kicks far more than he was.

I really can't tell what some of the movements are or what direction is being travelled in, but they're funny!

Redwelly, I get tickled from the inside all the time. I love it! I should start reading to baby, rather than talking banal rubbish at him!

Yes my movements are very odd, still no specific pattern and I'm not really sure what he's doing but DH can now feel something so that's good! When should you start counting kicks etc?
Counting down the days till my next mw appt (not till march!) as my 20 week scan feels like a decade ago! I'm hoping they listen for hb again?

MrsBri Tue 19-Feb-13 08:53:18

Hi Littlemiss...they should check for the heartbeat every time now, I think.

And 25 weeks to count movement. :-)

Withalittlesparkle Tue 19-Feb-13 09:08:27

I think they actually discourage from counting kicks now, it's more about your babys pattern and when your most likely to feel it! Least that's what my midwife said to me!

My 24 week appt isn't until I'm 25 + 4 which I thought was fairly late but then I know she doesn't mind me booking appts between then even if I just want a chat! Very aware of antenatal depression in my area, and every time you go she offers the Doppler!! Last time I only went to get my MATB1 form signed!!!!

Fwiw I don't think my boy has settled in to a pattern yet!! But I miss it when he isn't booting me!!!!

13 weeks till mat leave and counting!!!

pinkbear82 Tue 19-Feb-13 09:28:42

Morning all - thank u for the lovely welcome. It's lovely to read everyone's stories. smile

Had wonderful heartburn last night, ended up almost sleeping sitting up just to try and help it - apart from feeling like I wanted to drink a whole bottle of gaviscon!

Mind you, DP did day as we got into bed last night that even if he was the best problem solver ever, I've got too many for him to know where to start wink (I may have had a moany day yesterday!!)

Olimoss Tue 19-Feb-13 09:41:06

Welcome to the new joiners....I was thinking it seems so long ago we were all anxious about booking in appts and 12 week scans and things.

It seems the first half of this whole palaver goes so much more quickly than the second half - we have so many milestones to make in weeks 1-20, but after the 20-week scan it's just waiting and monitoring!

After 6 weeks of solid kicking and moving about, my baby has started to what I can only describe as 'swing' in the lying-in-a-hammock position he's in at the moment. Makes me feel a bit seasick.....

learnermummy Tue 19-Feb-13 09:51:34

redwellybluewelly i have really swollen labia too blush even went to doctors as it's quite uncomfortable but she said it was nothing. I don't remember having it before either. Last midwife appt was 16 weeks and then don't have another til 28 weeks! As a third timer I'm obviously not worth too much worrying about!
Think I'm going to have to invest in a pillow, woke every 2 hours last night switching from left to right side. I know left is best but do seem more comfy on the right.

peardrop2 Tue 19-Feb-13 10:09:49

Is anyone else growing out of there maternity clothes? Maybe I've just brought the wrong things but I've discovered that my gap denim maternity skirt with stretchy band no longer fits today. Neither does my smart black skirt from serraphine. I'm feeling slightly annoyed as I assumed maternity clothing would fit me the whole way through Ahhh! shock I'm considering weighing myself. Maybe I've put weight on my hips too hmm

peardrop2 Tue 19-Feb-13 10:11:24

Oh and my Hennes maternity tights no longer fit as well! hmm

MrsBri Tue 19-Feb-13 10:12:47

One of my tops appears to be on the way to being too small now, annoyingly.

Hoping my work clothes last til I finish though, but suppose that depends on my bump!

Olimoss Tue 19-Feb-13 10:13:16

Peardrop2 - my shape has changed and where I've put weight on isn't in the same place it would if I was just getting fat, if that makes sense! It's gone on around the back of my hips, so I'm 'thicker' there than otherwise. Legs and arms and stuff are the same, gut is obviously now a babygut, but there's a definite general thickening when I see myself side-on. If I look from the front I still have a waist but I reckon it's on borrowed time....

I can't wear trousers anymore, not even maternity ones, just too uncomfy...

suzyrut Tue 19-Feb-13 10:16:27

Morning ladies and what a busy weekend everyone's been having.

Welcome to the new joiners smile

Was going to ask about braxton hicks and thank goodness yet again it looks like our symptoms are totally in synch, I'd thought it was too early but after I went swimming on Sunday (which the baby did not seem to like at all) I'm sure I felt some tightenings and hardening of my bump, wasn't painful but neither was it pleasant, is that them, definitely didn't have them with other two???

Glad the move went well mrsbri sounds like you're nearly there which is amazing going for one weekend.

I've got leave to use up so am selfishly decorating our bedroom, and when I say I am decorating my input extends to perusing farrow and ball paint charts and ordering some new cushions and stuff xx

peardrop2 Tue 19-Feb-13 12:23:44

Olimoss - oh thank goodness it sounds like I've got the same thing. It's like someone has come along and put an extra layer behind my back which means I no longer fit my very baggy non-maternity dresses. I did weigh myself and I've put on 9lbs. A little scary but hopefully normal.

MrsBri - quite pleased to hear I'm not alone! Silly me thinking one size fits the whole 3 trimesters grin

And as for Braxton hicks. I get them 2/3 times a day. Like you say it's not painful but just a firm feeling and sometimes I change position or stand up to make them go away.

peardrop2 Tue 19-Feb-13 12:25:20

Suzy - my baby hates me swimming so I can't do it. Tried it twice and found it very uncomfortable!

Sunbeam18 Tue 19-Feb-13 12:54:08

Feel suddenly big too - circumference from right below my boobs round my back seems to have expanded a lot. Going to try swimming this afternoon as am away on a 3-day break in a nice hotel with pool with my mum and sis.
Well done on the move MrsBri. I'm another one who is still to move. DP and I rather unconventionally live apart but in the same street at the moment and we are going to rent out my flat and I'm moving into his. Hopefully this is all going to come together within the next month or so xx

MrsBri Tue 19-Feb-13 13:18:54

I definitely feel more solid...my thighs seem hefty and my arms are also fatter, it would appear.

I still could get away with not looking pregnant from behind, if you didn't know how slim I was before, but I'm certainly more solid.

Which takes me onto how thin Kate Middleton is still. Bearing in mind bodies do what they do, regardless of who you are, isn't it typical she's not expanding massively?!

peardrop2 Tue 19-Feb-13 13:25:02

I'm not surprised about Kate because I only started expanding at 24 weeks. Which is why I'm having a OMG what just happened to my body moment. I don't think she's 20 weeks yet is she? Also, think of the nutrition and exercise she's given on a plate! She is certainly not at home stressing about how to afford all this baby stuff while stuffing her face with Lindt chocolates grin

redwellybluewelly Tue 19-Feb-13 13:30:03

She has been veey ill though. If I am wearing my tigher on the leg jeans and a baggy top and standing tall then I am not obviously pregnant and I'm a lot bigger this time round than last time.

I'm also not eating very healthily, I know I should but the only things that keep me going are carby foods. Cant eat sweets or chocolates but can do damage to a sausage roll on a daily basis!

SunnyL Tue 19-Feb-13 13:31:18

Agree re. Kate. My sister was quite similar on her first baby though - slim slim slim except a baby bump. Grrrrr

For me, people who know I'm pregnant say I've got a baby bump. However those that don't know I'm pregnant just think I've been eating a few too many pies. I even wore my bikini today and the person I was with didn't still didn't realise I was pregnant. I'm still wearing quite a few of my non-maternity clothes though. It helps that I was on weight watchers before I got pregnant so quite a few of my clothes were really quite baggy anyway.

Sarah2506 Tue 19-Feb-13 15:42:39

I just logged on to make a comment about Kate. I don't look like that. I've never looked like that. I'm torn between being jealous and envious. Nice to have everything done for you - hello blowdry on a daily basis / tailor made wardrobe / nutritionist / no doubt ultrasound machine on demand. Though, have to say I would not appreciate anyone interfering with my right to lie on the sofa shovelling crap in my face without having to worry about my next public appearance. And how would you hide the wrappers without your private security finding them?! I wonder if she lurks on the July 2013 threads.. or maybe she lurks on ours!!

Have just actually bought stuff. First time! Mothercare have 15% off bedding and nursery so bought a good cotbed mattress and a few sheets and blankets.

Ladies - can we agree that the minute anyone spots anything on offer they post immediately!! I can't be buying everything full price!

DontmindifIdo Tue 19-Feb-13 15:49:35

re Kate, she's tall! Remember you are measured from top of bump to plevic bone, last week that was measuring at 23 weeks for me (spot on), however I'm 5'0 - there is very little space between the top of my pelvic bone and the bottom of my ribs, so in order to be 23cm, a lot of that has to be going in an outwards direction, Kate is a lot taller than me, so it's not unreasonable that from the bottom of her ribs to the top of her pelvic bone to be 20cm with only a tiny bump outwards. Tall/long bodied woman show later.

MrsBri Tue 19-Feb-13 15:57:36

Not in my case, Don'tmind...I'm 5'11" and showed literally instantly! :-/ I did shovel crisps to combat sickness, but it was always blatantly a preggo bump, not fat! My innards went upwards very quickly, as they've been uncomfortable for ages.

Bearing in mind I have to use public transport for my commute, I've actually been thankful for my bump as it has allowed me to get a seat twice, whereas if I had no bump I'd be left standing. Small mercies, eh?!

learnermummy Tue 19-Feb-13 15:58:52

Agree totally Sarah2506 would not want the world to be scrutinising my waistline! Must go and hide the wrapper of that flake I 'borrowed' from DS1s Christmas chocolate stash....

MrsBri Tue 19-Feb-13 16:00:19

But...I am mostly leg (4' floor to waist), so I suppose that may have more of an influence than if I was more evenly balanced! Desperately scrabbling for reasons my bump is MAHOOSIVE!

redwellybluewelly Tue 19-Feb-13 16:12:32

I'm measuring spot on size wise, MW has just said I have a very happy healthy baby in there but I am carrying low even for a second timer and that might be why everything is swollen down there and why im getting so much bump ache. Not only was dd (very) overdue but she engaged fully at 38 weeks so I got stretched for a month.

Spring cleaned today, moved all the furniture around in the playroom, hoovered throughout downstairs, two loads of washing put away and one load hung up, three lots of washing up, cleared out fridge, mopped hall floor, opened all the windows and aired the duvets. Dusted upstairs

Have also minced some beef for dinner, still need to cook it though, and thought about meals for the freezer for babymoon. Still need to dust upstairs and clean the bathroom.

Roofers finish work tomorrow, plumber and carpenter booked for mid march, and nursery fees paid until end of March. Live it when a plan comes together grin

maisiebeem Tue 19-Feb-13 16:22:06

learner how is there still a chocolate stash in your house?? Mine lasted not long at all- and it was a very big stash! I am tempted to start bulk buying Easter eggs! In preparation for my next lot of chocolate cravings!

pinkbear82 Tue 19-Feb-13 16:32:07

Omg Red - you've been a busy bee!! I've had a day where it's been a struggle to do anything! In fact was just considering a nap.

Bit jealous of all of you and chocolate... Since suffering from hg chocolate anything is likely to be parted with hmm

Bloody hell Redwelly I thought I was doing well defrosting the freezer, running the dishwasher and getting a load of washing on! grin

I'm 5'8" and have only just got a bump in the last couple of weeks - I can still fit into my non-maternity jeans, only the baby doesn't like them much and tends to kick me if I squish it under the waistband grin don't look like Kate though!

redwellybluewelly Tue 19-Feb-13 17:42:54

Dont know what came over me <dreams of bath at 7pm> is it too soon to be nesting?

Have also taken clothing returns to post office, suddenly realised the returns had been sitting there for two weeks and I had a day left to get a refund.

Dd has a single spot on her tongue, none on hands or feet, I'm desperately hoping its a mouth ulcer not hand foot and mouth or chickenpox. I'm so so up against the wall at work and days off now would be catastrophic if I'm to stand any chance of finishing my phd. Sigh.

AlohaMama Tue 19-Feb-13 17:59:37

Goodness me ladies you have been busy over the last few days. Welcome to all the newbies.

I'm the same as yourue and still have my skinny jeans (though probably stretching them without realising). I have lovely maternity jeans but they're way too big. I'm going to be stuck for the next few weeks in that in-between stage where non-maternity is too small but maternity is too big and will just have to wear leggings and the same top every day!

Feel good about having done some de-cluttering over the weekend. Not really nesting as we don't need to do much for the baby, more a 'better start sorting out the house just in case we move back to the UK in August but we don't really know what we're doing' type of thing. I did go through all ds's old baby clothes though and realised this little girl has nothing to wear till she's 3 months old. Might have to succumb to some shopping, or hope that other people buy it for us!!

Olimoss Tue 19-Feb-13 19:11:10

Are you all going to do the isofix thing for your carseat? It's extra dosh for the attachment and I've had advice that a correctly belted maxi cosi or what ever it is you choose is just as safe.....

Back home in australia most people hire a very basic baby capsule for the first few months or so, and it's just belted in. Am confused.

Sarah2506 Tue 19-Feb-13 19:15:29

Oli I think it falls into the category of 'things our parents never had for us and were absolutely fine but we think we really need. Ultimately it will likely make life easier, so we will get it, as you just snap the car seat in. We have a three door, and I'm having a section, so arsing around trying to get the seat belt round it won't be for me!

redwellybluewelly Tue 19-Feb-13 19:22:12

We had an isofox version that was for cars too old to have an isofix iyswim? Bloody brilliant. Seriously. Will certainly be using it this time although we are getting a new car seat as our old one was the spare of a ffriends and its now too old for my liking.

I've decided I'm not getting a buggy till baby is here, purely because if dd is walking everywhere or using buggy board we can use our icandy but if she decidea not to walk then I'll get a second hand mountain buggy double or nipper 360. We'll see.

I am as expected now flat on my back exhausted.

AmIGoingMad Tue 19-Feb-13 19:31:27

We got the maxi cosi and got the base for my car then used seatbelt in DH's. when DS got too big for that we got the maxi cosi axis ( turns to the side for you to put little one in and saves your back) just for DH's car which is the one that whoever is with DS drives.

Redwelly it's sounds like you're a woman on a mission already! I really don't have the energy to do the general day to day things around the house so I'm not sure when the nesting will start!

learnermummy Tue 19-Feb-13 20:35:52

maisie up to now I've felt too guilty to raid DS1's chocolate stash. He's like his dad when it comes to chocolate and it will probably stay there til next Christmas if I don't eat it. Am hoping he forgets there ever was a flake....
redwelly you really are on a mission, wish I could find some get up and go! Did manage to swap DS2 into spare room last night, but now we need to paint the new spare room....
As for car seats I love maxi cosi seats but haven't had the isofix base before. Might look out for one on ebay.

ella0 Tue 19-Feb-13 20:55:08

Thanks for the info on the Dulux tester offer, I don't watch adverts so didn't realise. I wanted to order testers a few weeks ago but refused to pay the £4 or so including p&p.

Our midwife said counting the kicks from 25 weeks is important; I'm 25 weeks in a few days and I'm still not getting enough movement to count 10 kicks a day (I have anterior placenta)... I haven't had any braxton hicks either.

I'm hoping my maternity clothes will last the whole way through; so far the weight is just going on my bump.

We've got the isofix base for our maxi-cosi car seat. It's not essential but we thought it'd make life a lot easier.

cyclecamper Tue 19-Feb-13 20:58:26

I quite like the isofix bases they make it much easier to get the seat in and out of the car. As we don't have a car, I won't be getting one though! I'm having whatever babyseat my welsh friend has, because it fits on the pushchair she's also giving me and I'll be getting it whenever she comes to London next.

I've done a load of vacuuming today - my husband has severe asthma and has been really bad lately - it's a viscious circle: The dust is bad for his breathing, and he's been bad so he was off sick so I haven't vacuumed, so the dust makes his breathing worse... He actually went into work this afternoon so I did the whole of downstairs. Hopefully he will be well enough to go tomorrow so I can do upstairs.

Thank you Redwelly - every time I see the thread title I do my pelvic floor exercises whilst I wait for the page to load - it's a great reminder!

learnermummy Tue 19-Feb-13 21:05:12

Those of you who aren't first timers how often are you seeing your midwife? my last appt was 16 weeks and next isn't til 28. Just seems a while between appointments. I had an independent midwife for number 2 so appointments were much more frequent.

Sarah2506 Tue 19-Feb-13 21:07:12

I am doing my head in this evening. I weighed myself this morning and I was a kilo more than I was on Friday. As only half the week has passed this puts me on track for a 2kg or nearly 4lb weight gain. This counts as 'excessive' and so I have now diagnosed myself with pre-eclampsia. I have no other symptoms and no reason to think anything is up. If only I hadn't got on the scales! I'm not obviously swollen, I don't know where it is going! Pls reassure me that I'm being a first time mum worrier! I'm also thirsty so assume I have diabetes as well. Argh!!!

redwellybluewelly Tue 19-Feb-13 21:15:12

learnermummy I saw MW at 9ish, 16, 24 (today) and 28 is my next one, however that may be because I am labelled as higher risk so being seen on the same schedule as a first timer.

sarah as a first timer last time and telling myself not to be silly and missing something I would say trust your instincts, give your MW a ring in the morning - are you * ahem * blocked up? I certainly went through growth spurts with the last one, and this one to although I haven't blush stepped on the scales recently.

cyclecamper have you thought of laminate? I used to stay somewhere with laminate/wooden floors and it always helped my then BF asthma.

redwellybluewelly Tue 19-Feb-13 21:16:41

I asked about movement today and MW said that they would start to worry about movement from 26-28 weeks onwards but that if I were ever really concerned I should go straight to the AN ward.

Olimoss Tue 19-Feb-13 22:04:50

Thanks for the isofix info and tips. Will do some research.....

Re: movements, the consultant told me they get concerned if activity stops, or if the pattern abruptly changes (hence why I had the unplanned scan last week) but otherwise just to be aware of patterns. My bump gets incredibly hard and tight as the day progresses, with real low-pelvic discomfort by late afternoon, but the kid still kicks and punches joyously so I figure it must be ok. Don't fancy another 15 weeks of this feeling though.

cyclecamper Tue 19-Feb-13 22:06:56

redwelly - I would love laminate floors, but unfortunately we rent (and have no spare money to spend on a house that we may only be in another year or 2sad)

We've bought the iso fix base for our car seat. It's 120quid so costly but my SiL said it would be worth every penny especially if its raining! She bought hers when my nephew was 4 weeks old. We went for the be safe iZi go car seat instead of maxi cosi it can be used on the iCandy with the maxi cosi adapters. Cot arrived today so starting to feel real!

LexiLexi Wed 20-Feb-13 07:30:32

According to Which? isofix bases provide more protection in certain types of accident, including side impacts, so is a must for us.

Sarah, I haven't even dared step on the scales! Though guess I'll find out at my appointment next week.

I've been doing a bit of mattress research. Apparently it's the foam ones which should be avoided as they can encourage mould growth. Stokke do a Coco mat upgrade but it's v expensive. There are a couple of other places (one in Wales & one in Devon) that do Stokke for about half the price & they'll custom make for any other brand too. If anyone would like details, please PM me.

Baby is responding to touch & sound now, though some of the kicks are really quite strong-don't know how long my stomach muscles will hold out!

suzyrut Wed 20-Feb-13 09:27:52

We bought the isofix base as much as anything so I won't have to faff around with seat belts every time we go anywhere. With that said I've also bought a push chair with a carrycot (and car seat adaptors) so either one will probably end up being under used, if only I knew which!

learnermummy I'm on dc3 and had my 1st proper appointment at 16 weeks then won't see anyone again until 28 weeks. It was the same with my 2nd I seem to remember. I was relieved to have the scan at 20 weeks as it does seem a hugely long time in between appointments. Am quite glad though because i'm having to go to the hospital to see the consultant for every appointment rather than just local midwife which is a pain and costing a fortune in parking!

redwellybluewelly Wed 20-Feb-13 09:54:51

LexiLexi is that Green Sheep in Wales? If so then thats where we got our DDs cot mattress and it has been absolutely wonderful

cyclecamper I've reread my post from last night and I am so sorry if it sounded like I was teaching you to suck eggs! Was extremely tired and went to bed at quarter to ten, woken throughout the night by DD waking and then DH getting cross with her. Think she wanted her mummy and she was cold as well but she has got to that point where she is uncomfy co sleeping but likes the extra warmth from mummy/daddy. Might try her in her thicker PJs tonight and see if that helps.

LexiLexi Wed 20-Feb-13 10:07:46

hi redwelly, yes it is. I was just procrastinating looking into some reviews, so really helpful to know that you are pleased with yours. Sorry to hear that your DD didn't settle very well last night, the temperature is so up and down isn't it- we are constantly putting on/throwing off blankets!

redwellybluewelly Wed 20-Feb-13 10:18:36

They were really great, it arrived quickly and I think I got a 10% discount code from somewhere, they often do deals - it was expensive, but we also bought a mattress topper which is washable and when DC2 goes into the cot we'll replace the mattress topper but not the mattress. Certainly nice to think DD sleeps on sheep grin

I realised after getting to work today that I forgot to get my MATB1 form signed - should teh MW have given it to me or should I have sent off for it?!

Red welly your mw should be able to pop it in the post for you. That what mine did

learnermummy Wed 20-Feb-13 13:11:07

I haven't managed to get hold of a dream genii pillow from TK Maxx so far, has anyone seen any discount codes in any magazines?

Olimoss Wed 20-Feb-13 13:18:41

Argh think will have to get an isofix then, now too scared not to!

In other exciting news, I managed another fall on the slippery train floor, on way to work today. Cue a trip to A&E, a busted medial collateral ligament in my left knee, crutches, a brave, apps with the Ortho next week and an extremely cranky face (mine).

Crazily the A&E at the hospital I was at won't/don't/can't do foetal health monitoring so it was either head to the EPU or my GP. I went with GP, heartbeat fine, but doesn't that all seem a faff all for the want of a Doppler?

Olimoss Wed 20-Feb-13 13:20:07

Brave = brace, for knee

ChicaT Wed 20-Feb-13 13:38:01

Ouch!!! Anyone else suffering stretchy pains and indigestion today? Both in one day is a bit much. Very sore, currently working from bed!

I think Isofix is the best option...easy to use and safe.

learnermummy Wed 20-Feb-13 13:58:03

Oh dear Olimoss sounds nasty. Get better soon biscuit.

Am watching a maxi cosi isofix base on ebay at the moment...

cyclecamper Wed 20-Feb-13 14:01:38

Redwelly No problem - I took it as it was meantsmile.

Olimoss ooh, nasty, hope you heal soon.

ChicaT I've had some rotten days with both the stretching and the indigestion. I think my muscles are quite put out at being put to such strain for the first time at my age!

One of my bosses in the early nineties had a lovely wool matress from somewhere in Kent - the programme/research about foam matresses came out just after she had her baby so the baby slept on blankets for a few weeks whilst we waited for the matress to arrive! I haven't started thinking about matresses yet.

I'm hoping to muster the energy to go and try the pregnancy yoga class tonight. I won't be able to attend for the next 3 weeks as I will be working till 7pm, but I think getting started is a good idea.

learnermummy Wed 20-Feb-13 14:17:28

Pregancy yoga is great cycle. Unfortunatley there are no classes near me. I have a DVD but never seem to muster the energy to do it!

ChicaT Wed 20-Feb-13 14:30:06

How old are you Cyclecamper if you don't mind me asking?! I'm 36, and while not pregnant i feel perfectly young,fit and healthy but pregnant...let's just say 'haggard and tired' rather than 'fresh and glowing'! Also have you thought about getting an ioniser and/or a humidifier to help with the dust? Our place is newly renovated so lots of dust, I find a humidifier helps if it makes me cough at night.

Lexilexi - I'm getting a Green Sheep mattress too. We live in a warm climate and so I want something that's breathable and won't grow invisible mould.

learnermummy Wed 20-Feb-13 14:37:35

Have just signed up for a pilates class, and whilst it isn't a pregnancy specific one the instructor does have pregnancy training. Have paid upfront so that will force me to go! Ordered yoga pants from mothercare to go in and added a couple of packs of Nature newborn nappies as they were on offer. I feel like I'm slowly getting more organised....

redwellybluewelly Wed 20-Feb-13 15:00:57

We have a few pack of NatureBabyCare Size 1 as they are on offer, although they didn't fit DD that well so we might get some other eco brands as well

I have back and bump ache. Its 3pm, the earliest I can sneak is 4pm. I have so much work to do its frightening but its hard to concentrate when uncomfy.

Sarah2506 Wed 20-Feb-13 15:39:25

I am absolutely mortified by this email which has just been sent round the team blush

'As you all know I am fond of baking and happy to bring in the occasional cake etc for the team to enjoy. However on the last couple of occasions the cake I have left on the side on Monday morning has been gone by the afternoon, which means those who don't work Mondays feel left out and don't get to enjoy the occasional treat! Whilst I'm pleased you enjoy my cakes could you possibly enjoy only one slice each so there is some leftover on Tuesday? Many thanks. '

redwellybluewelly Wed 20-Feb-13 15:46:54

Unless you have eaten the entire cake then I don't think you have anything to worry about!?

peardrop2 Wed 20-Feb-13 15:55:41

Hah hah how much cake have you eaten?

peardrop2 Wed 20-Feb-13 15:57:48

Poor Oli! hmm

redwellybluewelly Wed 20-Feb-13 16:32:02

Oli I missed your fall! Hope you get better quickly and that does sound madness to not have any foetal checks in an A&E!

AlohaMama Wed 20-Feb-13 17:10:21

ow oli that sounds crap. How long are you going to be on crutches for?

sarah surely you only had 2 slices, one for you one for baby? that seems legitimate!

MrsBri Wed 20-Feb-13 17:51:07

Ouch, Oli, that sounds nasty :-/ Hope you recover soon.

Maybe the cake baking person should bring it in on a Tuesday and save any further issues. How many slices have you had, by the way?! :-)

We've gone for a breathable mattress, not a foam one, for both the Moses basket and cot bed. I don't believe in getting the cheapest option for that.

Baby B has been kicking almost all day today without break. I'm assuming he's knackered now as I'm getting a break! Hopefully we will sleep all night too. He doesn't keep me awake or wake me, so I assume he generally sleeps when I do!

Oh, I lied, here he goes again! :-)

Had a horror day today. Went to Court for two small hearings, but was only given the papers half an hour before I left and they were not right. Cue a bollocking from the Judge <sad face> He did acknowledge it wasn't my fault, but I was to pass the bollocking on!

Glad I'm on the way home now!

Sarah2506 Wed 20-Feb-13 19:31:27

I had three slices. I pretended it was one and got all indignant:-)

I was all lined up for a court nasty myself but called to say the other party had vacated to be listed in three months time so no longer my problem. Boom!

This time last year we were all dressed up and heading to the Brit Awards- DH music industry bod. Now I'm on the sofa about to watch it in PJs, with squash instead of champagne. How life is changing..

peardrop2 Wed 20-Feb-13 19:37:48

Oooh MrsBri that doesn't sound fun! Hope you purposely stuck your tummy out a bit more then usual to make him feel bad after!

Sarah - I know what you mean. I run in from work, change into pjs and smile to see my dressing gown (1st ever dressing gown) before getting comfy on the couch! Life has definitely changed!

DontmindifIdo Wed 20-Feb-13 19:40:27

Olimoss - poor you! Hope you are on the mend and are being spoilt.

Sarah - I'm sure there's others in your office who've given up cake and treats for lent, you are just having their share. I would point out to precious cake baker that if it's been left out uncovered, it probably will be dry by Tuesday, and if it has any cream, it probably wouldn't be best to be eaten anyway. The obvious solution is for you to take up cake baking and take in cake on Wednesdays.

DontmindifIdo Wed 20-Feb-13 19:42:59

oh and, I realised, 9 weeks today and it'll be my last day in the office. I'm not quite at the stage of counting the number of sleeps, but not far off.

pinkapples Wed 20-Feb-13 20:14:52

Awwww I've still got a few weeks more than that hehe about 14 hmm
Waiting for baby to kick me having some more movement now but by no means is it all day and neither i nor hubby has felt it from the outside hmm I'm 24+1 today so fingers crossed she gets going soon (will be mega regretting that soon I'm sure) looking forward to baby show this weekend and 3d scan in 6 weeks grin

MrsBri Wed 20-Feb-13 20:26:11

Pear, I made sure my belly was on view on the way in...I think it would have been worse if I wasn't pregnant, to be honest! That particular Judge is known for being harsh :-/

I have 11 weeks and 2 days til I finish now. Or 51.5 working days thanks to leave / bank holidays. Lovely stuff!

MrsBri Wed 20-Feb-13 20:27:28

Ooh...and we now have our wallpaper and our sample paints also arrived today. Want to decorate NOW! :-)

pinkbear82 Wed 20-Feb-13 20:32:04

Olimoss that's really nasty - from experience of working in a Physio environment make sure you get some to help what ever needs doing - they can help! Hope it's not too painful and watch your back with the crutches.

Bubs has been have a boogie today which has actually been quite nice and kept me calm on a stressful day. Got loads to deal with at home, nothing plain sailing or as it should be and just as you think it can't get any worse another thing came about today. My head may well explode at this rate confused but feeling bubs wriggling around was strangely soothing.

peardrop2 Wed 20-Feb-13 21:11:42

6 weeks and 2 days grin

pinkapples so I shouldn't tell you that I'll have a baby in less than 13 weeks, then? grin there's an upside to having to have a section before 38 weeks I suppose!

Sunbeam18 Wed 20-Feb-13 21:19:46

Oli poor you, that sounds awful. I hope you are taking some time to rest up after the fright.
Sarah there is nothing worse than a self-righteous baker in the office! Why bring a cake in on a Monday if you want Tuesday workers to eat it? They wouldn't even have known about it if it was all gone. That kind of scolding from office feeders makes me blood boil.

AmIGoingMad Wed 20-Feb-13 22:44:03

Poor you olimoss! I hoe you've managed to rest up a bit now.

Am going to have to google green sheep. I'd never heard of them and I live in the land of sheep!

Sarah- does the baker intend to monitor you all or maybe keep the cake at her desk to make sure everyone has their share?! Madness!

I'm just shattered at the moment. Have yawned all day. Should have gone to bed earlier really but have been busy catching up with things around house.

Night ladies!

Olimoss Wed 20-Feb-13 22:44:19

Thank you everyone, you're all lovely.

I won't know more till I see the Ortho next week but I've definitely re-busted a previously busted (and repaired) ligament so I'm sure another MRI and op needed but baby will determine timescales for all that. A bright blue leg brace is not my best look....

I'm worried now I'm static and can't move around or swim that'll I'll just pork out to feral proportions!

Babe moving heaps tonight so v reassuring.

Re: cake - eat it all!!

AmIGoingMad Wed 20-Feb-13 22:49:36

Poor you olimoss! I hoe you've managed to rest up a bit now.

Am going to have to google green sheep. I'd never heard of them and I live in the land of sheep!

Sarah- does the baker intend to monitor you all or maybe keep the cake at her desk to make sure everyone has their share?! Madness!

I'm just shattered at the moment. Have yawned all day. Should have gone to bed earlier really but have been busy catching up with things around house.

Night ladies!

cyclecamper Wed 20-Feb-13 23:31:16

Chica I'm 42 and have energy in fits and starts. We can't have a humidifier as the damp is worse for the asthma than the dust sad.

I managed to get the upstairs and stairs cleaned, which was good.

I cycled over to the yoga class, which was really good, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I am currently cycling about half my usual speed, but it was nice to ride- I've barely been on my bike this year! I'm going to have to plan some nice flat routes and try and do a bit more. Dr's for a check up early tomorrow so I'd better get some sleep.


Mawgatron Thu 21-Feb-13 08:09:11
massagegirl Thu 21-Feb-13 08:26:57

Mawg .... Get yourself to the shops and buy whatever sweet stuff you want. Sit and watch some crappy tv/film. And if he had a ho politely remind him you are growing a person. Grrrrrr. Oh I want a double decker now!

Mawgatron Thu 21-Feb-13 09:17:45

Thanks massage. And get yourself a double decker. Best thing you will do today...

redwellybluewelly Thu 21-Feb-13 09:19:44

Holy cow Maw I am shocked - have commented on that thread! Methink you need to start thinking of ways to exact revenge.

redwellybluewelly Thu 21-Feb-13 09:33:22

cyclecamper I get energy in bursts too, I'm finding it increasingly uncomfy to work at work and so making it in for 8.40am and then working till lunch, having a walk around and then working until 4.15ish before selecting onw piece of work to complete in the evening, picking up DC1 from nursery and heading home.

I can recharge my batteries at home, then do my piece of work before getting an early night. I do weekend night shifts with DC1 so I have to conserve my energy through the week. Tonight though I am starting on the great unclutter

Maw I read that thread earlier, I can't believe how rude he's being! Especially as he's not joining in the "regime" himself! Should I be the first to say LTB? winkgrin

suzyrut Thu 21-Feb-13 11:09:45

mawgatron that has made me really GRRRRR for you, tell him his actions are raising the blood pressure of pregnant women everywhere, now that's dangerous! My biggest loathing of pregnancy and motherhood is the way that fully grown, independent, self sufficient women are treated like total idiots completely unable to make considered choices and have, by conceiving, somehow granted everyone from strangers in the supermarket upwards carte Blanche to comment on ALL aspects of our pregnancies and motherhood.

Sorry rant over but this really gets me riled. Dp once asked how many cups of tea I'd drunk that day, he didn't do it again!

Sorry to hear about your accident oli sounds really awful.

On a positive note my hushamock arrived this morning, it's taken a couple of attempts to assemble it and now it's done it's enormous and I don't know if (after dis and re assembling) it will fit in our room where I thought it would. Spatial awareness was never my strong point xxx

DontmindifIdo Thu 21-Feb-13 11:17:41

Mawgatron - I'm really sorry but it appears you have married a twat. I hope this is just temporary paternity twatishness and he'll turn back into a sane person shortly.

My DH would not do this, but that's possibly not because of not being twatishly leaning, more out of self preservation. He knows not to get between me and chocolate. Divorces have been brought for less...

LexiLexi Thu 21-Feb-13 11:20:23

Ouch Oli, hope you are feeling a little better today and are coping with the crutches ok.

Maw sorry to hear of your DH comments, looks like MN found it a bit controversial as it's disappeared from view. If it's any consolation, my appetite has returned with a vengeance, so have been merrily scoffing marzipan chocs and (slightly guiltily) hot cross buns...

Little Green Sheep have a 10% discount code valid til Friday, FREEBIEFRIDAY.

We are having a last minute panic as completely forgot to get the paternity forms in, luckily tomorrow is the last day for us!

LexiLexi Thu 21-Feb-13 11:20:54

er I meant paternity leave forms!

SunnyL Thu 21-Feb-13 12:20:32

oooh Mawg bit of a crappy one. Although amusing to read the thread - how quickly do these ladies go from funny one-liner responses to 'leave the bastard - he's clearly an evil evil man'. Take it with a pinch of sugar salt??

My DH tried to comment on my minor obsession with Super Noodles a couple of months ago. It didn't go down too well. I know he was right but its hard to stay sane when your hormones are going mental. He's kind of off the hook at the moment because he's given up alcohol for lent. Although I've since heard he's off to look at a 2 seater sports car today as 'a project' for when the baby is born. How much time does he think he will have when baby comes??

SunnyL Thu 21-Feb-13 12:25:53

Oh and just saw LexiLexi's post. Is there a deadline for paternity forms or is it just your partners work? I have to admit DH asked me for a photocopy of my MAT B1 a few weeks ago but I forgot. Hopefully the police admin team will be as efficient as ever and won't have noticed his elapsed deadline.

learnermummy Thu 21-Feb-13 12:43:35

Blimey Mawg that's terrible. How dare he?! Especially as you're clearly more restrained than the rest of us as there was an uneaten double decker in your drawer!
I don't know about paternity forms either. I don't have my MATB1 yet as not seeing midwife til 28 weeks. My work aren't bothered about it but DH's might be...

learnermummy Thu 21-Feb-13 13:18:13

If you need a giggle take a look at this thread http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/1688163-Share-your-TMI-stories-that-you-cant-in-RL?pg=1
I'm crying with laughter here grin.

LexiLexi Thu 21-Feb-13 14:13:36

The Paternity Leave deadlines for notifying employers are the same as Maternity Leave ones. We nearly got caught out, thinking as it was less time off, less notice would be required! Here's a link to the form for anyone who needs it:

MrsBri Thu 21-Feb-13 15:43:09

I think DH is taking leave, not paternity leave. Must consider it!

learnermummy Thu 21-Feb-13 16:16:50

I think DH is taking one week of paternity leave as he gets full pay for the first week, and then will probably take holiday after that.

Mawgatron Thu 21-Feb-13 17:49:24

Ha ha, genius. Thanks learner!

I know sunny, I'm not going to leave him over it but it is nice to have a bit of validation. I like being told repeatedly that I'm right!

DH is self employed, so no form filling for him at least.

Glad I'm not the only one who was craving super noodles- so wrong but so right. Mmmm. Fake chicken goodness...

Sunbeam18 Thu 21-Feb-13 21:47:57

Received my maternity jeans from Jojo Maman today in the post - oh my god, they feel like heaven!

SunnyL Fri 22-Feb-13 10:02:52

Had to go home today and change out of my trousers. Bump was doing a terrific impression of a washing machine and was making me feel really quite nauseous. Think I'll need to put those trousers to the back of the wardrobe for a while.

Sarah2506 Fri 22-Feb-13 16:38:51

So, went to Mothercare and discovered favoured Bugaboo will fit in boot. Boom! Then found someone selling one locally - Result! She wants 300 quid for everything; pram, car seat adaptors, covers, foot muff, the works! This would be more than a grand new. Also, Easyjet destroyed the frame last year so that's only 6 months old, so seems like a good bet. Really pleased - didn't want to spend crazy money on new pram, not least because I fear it being stolen!

If you want some interesting, though vaguely depressing, reading, then see this link. Its about having a baby in Finland. If you read nothing else check out whats in the box you get as a new mum; and note that the box is sturdy enough to be used as Baby's first bed together with the free mattress! I now want to be Finnish! I only came across this because of the BBc story about them leaving their babies to nap outside, and it does indeed seem like the Fins think that fresh air cures absolutely everything...


DontmindifIdo Fri 22-Feb-13 16:54:50

£300 for a bugaboo? Which one? That's very exciting!

Hi everyone just checking in. Been a busy week with work. Will catch up on here over the weekend looks like I've missed loads.
Hope everyone is well and bumps are growing as fast as my little man I feel huge!!

AmIGoingMad Fri 22-Feb-13 19:06:10

Maw I hope you've been eating lots of chocolate in front of DH today!

Sunny I had to laugh that your DH thinks he'll have time that needs filling with a project after baby arrives!!!grin

Sarah- that's an amazing price for a bugaboo!

Sarah2506 Fri 22-Feb-13 20:14:51

Bugaboo cameleon! So pleased!

Sarah - well done on the pram, that's amazing! I'm still looking...
And the Finnish leaflet was fascinating, I know they are quite good at maternity benefits etc but it's interesting to see it all in black and white.

I'm going to try and get to a nearly new sale tomorrow, not sure if I can manage it as I've got to take DD to a birthday party as well, and they overlap - fingers crossed I can do it! Don't know if anyone will sell prams/pushchairs at it though, has anyone seen them at that sort of 2nd hand thing?

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Feb-13 21:41:45

Have you ladies noticed the 15% off buggies in mothercare at the moment?!

maisiebeem Sat 23-Feb-13 06:25:29

Ooo I will have to check that out! My dh has fallen for a bugaboo, just can't justify the price brand mew, although I think his parents are wanting to help out with it, as this will be their first grandchild, and they don't like the idea of it having second hand stuff! Little do they know that the cot, cot, clothes etc will all be second hand! I like a bargain!

SunnyL Sat 23-Feb-13 08:05:27

We're meant to be going pram shopping with my mother in March as she's buying. Although she's now suggested my sister comes too. I think DH may find his head explodes if he sets off with three females who are all quite loud and opinionated. Trying to work out a nice way to say back off to my darling sister although need to be nice cos I'm inheriting so much baby stuff from her.

LexiLexi Sat 23-Feb-13 08:33:41

Sunny, maybe suggest meeting with your sister for a coffee or lunch afterwards (if that's not too much for DH)? I think any 4 people from my family shopping for a pram would be rather raucous!

We are pretty much set on an iCandy peach jogger as it was the only one DP liked. Was wondering if anyone here has one & if so would they recommend it?

redwellybluewelly Sat 23-Feb-13 08:34:39

I have the icandy apple and its great

LexiLexi Sat 23-Feb-13 08:36:23

Er I mean 3 people- clearly my brain has turned to mush!

LexiLexi Sat 23-Feb-13 09:20:19

Thanks redwelly!

AmIGoingMad Sat 23-Feb-13 09:46:28

I had the apple too for DS and loved it! Will be using it for this little one too x

Lexi we have ordered a peach (not the jogger though). It was the only one DH and I really liked too. Luckily his mum was paying!! I still need to order the footmuff but won't need it till Autumn/winter so going to wait a bit.

Olimoss Sat 23-Feb-13 10:34:28

We did heaps of research and went with an iCandy. Blasted if I can remember which one!! It's smallish and has one-handed collapse and release and all that stuff. The Strawberry, maybe? Anyway it's robust enough to go off-footpath on occasion (not full 4wd) but narrow enough for boots and buses and stuff. I was wary of ending up with a beast, on the basis that after six months a stroller function is what you'll be needing for the most part.

Also determined not to have one of those children still in strollers at an advanced age - will have to get his stamina up from the word go.

Actually, with this knee of mine maybe we should've bough the biggest pram we could and I could sit in it and baby and boyfriend could push me around....hmmmm.

redwellybluewelly Sat 23-Feb-13 11:24:37

Cherry is the smaller one? We didn't get a stroller until dd was eighteen months, before that she was so uncomfortable even in a maclaren umbrella stroller. We still use the apple now around town. If you're only looking to need a pram for six months why not get a sling and a shopping bag on wheels? Infinitely cheaper and several friends in London have opted to do this.

Still eyeing up some doubles though, dd will probably want to sleep in the buggy a while longer.

SunnyL Sat 23-Feb-13 12:01:06

I've been looking at maternity clothes online as recent protests from baby suggests I need to stop squeezing into non-maternity clothes. Two observations

1) maternity wear is about the only time you see a model older than 14 wearing the clothes

2) maternity knickers appear to be the exception as they are all modelled by non-pregnant skinny beeyatches.

Got an afternoon in London next weekend layover so going to have a look down Oxford Street if I can cope with the rude shop assistants

Olimoss Sat 23-Feb-13 12:17:10

I've found the maternity undies at H&M surprisingly comfy. I'd not have guessed.....

MrsBri Sat 23-Feb-13 13:06:33

I'll have to take a look in H&M as I need more comfy knickers.

The house is almost sorted now. Just trying to get DH to paint the nursery wall with the first coat of pale emulsion so I can use my testers.

Though I've been told that apparently Dulux paint isn't good enough; we have to use trade paint. The joys of living with a professional tradesman! :-/

At least he isn't controlling my food intake. In fact, I'd say he's encouraging me to keep topped up with food, including chocolate :-)

Has your DH apologised yet, Maw? Or even realised the error of his ways? My DH's response was that he hoped you told him to fuck off! :-)

We are getting a Silver Cross Linear Ventura, which has either front or rear facing buggy option, which was what we wanted. I didn't even look at the iCandy ones as they are out of my budget (or actually, my in-laws' budget).

I need to investigate slings too as DH is really keen to carry Baby B like that.

So glad it is the weekend now...need a rest after the move. :-)

pinkapples Sat 23-Feb-13 15:32:33

On my way home from the baby show now spent nearly £1800 between us and both sets if parents
£900 furniture set from tutti bambini absolutely beautiful and just the right size for our small room grin
£460 on pram (mothercare oyster) with carrycot and car seat with 15% off woohoo £126 on electric breast pump bundle so dh can feed baby when I'm at work and a sling, thermometer, cushion thing (its called a widgey hehe think that may be why I bought it grin) good day all in all cant think of what else we need now x

Sarah2506 Sat 23-Feb-13 17:29:18

Well you did better than us at the Baby show! Riding high on the sucessfull Bugaboo purchase last night I was well up for it! However I got very weary very quickly. The best thing was that we got our Babybay - £292 for the cot, side, mattress, wheels and sheet. It's £292 on the NCT website as well, but not including wheels and sheet, so we have saved a bit and it was good to see it and make sure it was right for us. I'm really pleased actually, it's sturdy and looks really good.

Less good was the trip to Kiddisave. We bought a Maxi cosi pebble car seat and a Family fix base, each for £130. Was horrified to then discover the car seat was cheaper on the Kiddisave website! They made me think it was such a good deal! It's only 90 quid on the Mothercare website - though admittedly out of stock. Called them up and they will refund the difference, but I think I might struggle getting them to price match. Bloody cheek! Should have perservered with the Mothercare stand, but it was crazy bus when we swung past. DH starting to feel faint - oh the irony - and the queue for the loo and juice bar just about finished us off so we left.

Particularly enjoyed the comedy of the London Comic show being in different bits of Excel at the same time. Loads of pregnant women mixed up with men dressed as superheros in the car park!!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 23-Feb-13 17:36:30

Am I the only person to have gone for something other than an icandy or a bugaboo? Gutted that we can't use a family fix base but I'm assured it doesn't affect safety ratings greatly! We've gone for a mothercare orb!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 23-Feb-13 17:36:56

(With a pebble car seat)

Sarah2506 Sat 23-Feb-13 17:47:10

You can use a pebble car seat with a family fix base! That's what we've just bought. Or are you saying you can't use it in your car?

Withalittlesparkle Sat 23-Feb-13 17:54:28

It's the car, it has stupid floor storage that we didn't know about until the lady in mothercare pointed it out!!

pinkbear82 Sat 23-Feb-13 19:06:21

I really feel I need to be getting more organised with things! Just stressing over being off sick and pay going down and DP lost his job last month. Have sort of been avoiding looking as dont want to tease myself and feel disappointed when I can't get stuff confused but also very aware time is not on my side! Waaahh

Bubs today has decided to lie in a really odd way and causing quite a bit of discomfort..... Have decided I will be dead grateful when I can wear flip flops and forget trying to get to my feet with socks and doing shoes up!!

pinkapples Sat 23-Feb-13 19:51:17

Awww Sarah can you return it and get the cheaper one? We bought our pram at mothercare and service was awful as was so busy but was well worth it so we stuck it out and yes I'll second the extremely funny costumes that were walking about grin

redwellybluewelly Sat 23-Feb-13 20:04:34

I had a bump incident today, toddler over balanced on the chair and I leapt up and hit my bump on the table, did it about four hours ago and it still bloody hurts.

Plus DH went out last night and got hammered, then kept waking me up going to toilet and back all night, worse bit was that he woke dd at 2 and at 6 (when she got up for the day). Then he missed dc's special therapy session and was blatantly hungover all afternoon. Why he has to act like such a dick I really do not know.

redwellybluewelly Sat 23-Feb-13 20:05:46

Well done on the baby show, I'd have loved something like that

Sparkle, check with the floor storage (do you drive a Picasso by any chance?). You can use a isofix base with it, you just have to have the storage compartment open and fix the base in that to the actual bottom of the car IYSWIM. Or do what we will, and put the infant carrier in the middle of the back seat.

I went to a local nearly new sale this morning, looking for bits and pieces including a pram/pushchair if there were any. Saw a lovely one, no obvious branding on it, enquired, nearly fainted with shock when the lady told me it would be £400! Turns out it was a bugaboo cameleon, in denim, 3 1/2 years old with the newborn carry cot and a car seat thrown in. Slightly out of my budget this time round grin so I'm still on the hunt.

Actually, if anyone has any suggestions, I'm after a lie-flat pram/carry cot to start with, then a seat unit or pushchair conversion that can be forward or rear facing. Will need to be 2nd hand as we're skint, so any ideas of what we can look at and stand some chance of getting for about £150ish would be fab. Will be used for school runs, on buses, limited car use so folding not a massive problem (have Mei Tai for car travel anyway if necessary). Help!

MrsBri Sat 23-Feb-13 20:31:42

Ouch, redwelly, sounds painful. :-( And sorry about your DH too. Bloody men.

Rue, the Silvercross Linear Freeway we are getting could be about that second hand, and would seem to fit the bill. Maybe look for something like that?

AmIGoingMad Sat 23-Feb-13 21:16:13

Sarah and pinkapples wow! You've been busy! Well done!
Redwelly- hope your bump feels better now? That's really annoying about your DH. I hope he's seen the error of his ways now?

I think the apple is the bigger icandy and the peach and strawberry are slightly smaller. I think the strawberry's the one the beckhams had!

I'm with redwelly in that DS was in the icandy until about 18months as the seat is really roomy. We then bought Chico echo but he wasn't in that long as he's really tall and prefers to walk which is great but makes life harder when it's raining !

I'm still not at all organised and only have what we already have from DS. We've turned his cotbed into a bed for first time tonight so it could be an interesting one! Wish us luck!

On the slings front- can anyone recommend one that can be used pretty early on when baby arrives?

redwellybluewelly Sat 23-Feb-13 21:30:46

My early go to wrap is a Close carrier, very veey swift to put on, cheap secondhand, and doesn't cause any hip issues.

I also have a half buckle toddler wrap andI have just purchased an in between connecta integra. Its a great way to bond with baby and I can recommend local sling libraries as having a selection to try before you buy.

Bump still painful, think I hit it hard but baby is moving a bit so I'll ring MW if it gets worse. I under reacted last pg and will never forget it sad

peardrop2 Sat 23-Feb-13 21:36:44

AmIgoingMad - we've brought the caboo DX for DH because he's tall and the oyster baby sling for me. Highly recommend both grin

Withalittlesparkle Sat 23-Feb-13 21:49:39

Rue it's a cmax, we tried with the cover up but the storage is pretty deep so the leg doesn't actually go all the way down!

I like the Close baby carrier too - lovely to wear. Then I go to an Ellaroo Mei Tai, which I also find really comfortable and can be used for front and back carries so lasts for ages. I've got a ring sling knocking around somewhere too, but I don't particularly like wearing that one.

MrsBri - thanks, will have a look at that one.

Redwelly - hope your bump feels better soon! And yy to calling the MW if you need to.

cyclecamper Sat 23-Feb-13 22:44:08

The baby show sounds fun!

redwelly hope your bump feels better soon. Shame your Husband is being an idiot!

pinkbear hope the baby shuffles to a more comfortable position soon. I wouldn't stress too much about stuff- there are several months yet. I've also been worrying about money - I'm unemployed and temping when I can and finding that exhausting and my husband has been off sick a lot - he's been ill and doesn't get sick pay at the moment as he had so much time off last year with a dislocated shoulder and subsequent operation, but people have been very kind handing on nearly new things, which is lovely. Babies don't need as much stuff as all that in the first months anyway (nice though it is!). I haven't bought a single baby thing, although as a nanny, I do own a sling and some washable nappies which is a pretty good start. At least we don't need to worry about car stuff, being car free! (Someone has given me a baby seat so we have the option, but it won't get a lot of use!) It means I don't have to choose pushchairs and the like, but I've tried most at one time or another and I'm not fussed enough to mind what I'm given!

SunnyL Sun 24-Feb-13 02:43:13

Jeezo - feeling very naughty and unprepared compared to you guys. Currently I've spent about £40 on wallpaper for the nursery. Otherwise baby is coming home and living in a drawer with some old towels - or maybe I can find a way of registering to be Finnish and getting one of those boxes??

Going pram shopping next month so will ask for advice nearer the time.

I might even stretch to a pack of baby grows in Tescos one of these days. Although I keep looking at things, frankly the cost scares me. I'm saving like crazy for maternity leave so really don't want to spend anymore than is necessary on stuff I may not need. Watch this - we'll probably end up doing a mad shoppathon en route to the hospital as I realise that I have nothing for bubs.

forgetmenots Sun 24-Feb-13 09:47:19

Redwelly I hope you and bump are ok? Your DH needs a kick up the arse, men can be such pains!

I'm feeling a bit wobbly now because I've got so much to do... Like to be prepared! Had a repeat scan this week so it was lovely to see baby again - sad that there are no more scans.

massagegirl Sun 24-Feb-13 10:14:50

Ouch redwelly, hope you are ok.
Well done to those who braved baby show, having a mild panic about my lack of buying baby related bits.
I need to have a man rant, oh has a cold feeling sorry for himself so staying in bed while I go to lunch with friends, then next weekend we are going away with some other couples and he's told me he needs to work, pissed off with his lack of organisation and man flu... Grrr. Rant over he's a lovely boy really but think I'm easily irritated at the moment.

MrsBri Sun 24-Feb-13 11:30:01

Morning all! I amazed myself by sleeping until 9.45 today...must have been tired.

Baby B has been playing this morning. No idea what he was doing, but it tickled quite a bit :-) Think he was glad when I finally ate breakfast!

Is anybody else starving hungry at the moment? Think there must be a fair amount of growth going on as all I can think about is food!!

How is your bump today, redwelly? Hope it is OK and doesn't hurt anymore. And hopefully your DH isn't being an arse today.

DH has now told me I'm not allowed to be at home when he paints, which is why it isn't done yet. Not sure where the hell he expects me to go, bearing in mind I don't know anybody up here :-/ Just have to throw me out on the street!

Sorry to anyone else whose DH / DP is being annoying.

Red welly hope bump ok this morning.
Mrs Bri I keep having days where I eat non stop then some days not so much. I've had a lazy morning, poor baby must have been starving as just had breakfast!!
I think lo has moved, as bump seems higher today and his kicks feel different.
Very jealous of those that went to baby show, but it was too far for me to go alone as DH working this weekend. I also have cot, pram, car set so didn't know if there was much point.
DH also wants me out the house while he decorates the baby room. he wants me to stay at his mums. I'm sure I will be fine as long as I don't go in room while he is sanding and doing the gloss but I wanted to help!! I'm dreading emptying the room next weekend though, it's kind of turned into my clutter/dressing room as well as storage room for all my work equipment. Not sure yet where everything is going to go! Anyone else on countdown for finishing work? I'm hoping to finish around 34 weeks but I'm going to have a manic few weeks before I finish with lots of stays away from home hmm

Withalittlesparkle Sun 24-Feb-13 12:03:52

Bri my husband is the same!! He is packing me off to my mothers for a weekend so he can paint!

Sparkle I wouldn't mind going to my mothers, but his?!!
He has a point, mine live over 300 miles away, his are about 10 but I want to help!!
Must be a man thing!!

pinkbear82 Sun 24-Feb-13 12:49:05

Must be the weekend for DP/H being less than helpful! Mines had about a week of being nothing but annoying.
Love him to say he was going to decorate the nursery but have a feeling I'll be kicking him up the bum to even consider doing anything! (Men confused)
Bubs seems to have wiggled into a bit of a better place today - which is quite nice as DSC want to go out on their bikes this afternoon so a waddle walk will be in store!

MrsBri Sun 24-Feb-13 13:01:42

Littlemiss, I'm on serious countdown to finishing. 11 weeks to go, of which I'm working 49.5 days :-) And apparently the lazy, good-for-nothing chatterbox bitches have been told they need to start doing more of my stuff and help me out so that they're used to found it when I'm gone. Bet that went down well!!

It's weird about positioning. Sometimes Baby B can't really be felt. At others he sits really heavily. :-/ He was sitting heavy until a short while ago, so at least it is more comfy for our trip out to Preston Mothercare shortly. :-)

I'd NEVER go to his parents' to stay. I'd rather sleep rough! Mine are 170 miles away, so not that close, and my mum has an anxiety thing, so I can't stay over anyway! He will just have to work it out when I'm working or having my hair cut or something.

I wanted to help too :-/

Withalittlesparkle Sun 24-Feb-13 15:13:45

I missed the bit about his parents!!! I do have a half decent relationship with my inlaws though so at a push I'd be willing to stay with them BUT only for for one night maximum!!!

redwellybluewelly Sun 24-Feb-13 15:16:15

Why can't you help? Most paints these days are low or no odour, you can do the middle of the walls without exerting yourself or cutting in. Now glossing I would also now stay away from (half an onion in a bowl or a lit candle can help reduce fumes) as I'm a tad paranoid (plus the low odour gloss paints don't cover so well).

DH finished painting the front room today in time for our new sofa to be delivered this week, the only reason I'm not helping is because I needed to provide the toddler entertainment.

Now at work. Have bought a ready made roast (oh the shame) which DH is getting ready for 5.30 dinner, bump not moving around much today but have had a few sharp kicks, so so much to do before Easter I'll be working 6 day week (but finishing at 4,.30 not 5.30!). I've 13 weeks before I finish on the 24th May.

MrsBri Sun 24-Feb-13 15:32:56

I've been told no, and it's not worth an argument. And the way DH paints there is no middle bit to do, as he is one stripe up and down the wall. He's a perfectionist, so it is probably safer I'm not there! :-)

And he really wants to do it himself to help me and do something for Baby B!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 24-Feb-13 15:35:48

Red I finish on 23rd smile

redwellybluewelly Sun 24-Feb-13 15:41:00

sparkle whats your due date? Mine is 10th June but baby will likely be here 6 or 7th June.

Having a lot of family problems at the moment, DH is trying to be supportive but some family members haven't acknowledged this pg at all and others (like my mum) have been very non-committal to helping out at all afterwards sad

Withalittlesparkle Sun 24-Feb-13 16:36:07

Red I'm not due until 21st but taking 2 weeks annual leave befor

Withalittlesparkle Sun 24-Feb-13 16:37:20

Before I start my mat leave 2 weeks before my due date!!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 24-Feb-13 16:37:42

Any idea why family are being like this red?

Sunbeam18 Sun 24-Feb-13 16:48:49

I kept out of the way when OH painted the flat a few weeks ago - think its safest to be out of the way of both fumes and ladders!
Very impressed with all the purchases! We haven't got much at all yet, but there are still almost four months to go. Got a Moses basket from eBay, and some bits and pieces of cute clothing when I see them. Also, a neighbour has passed a cot on. I'm not 100% sure if I want to use it or buy new. My folks are going to buy us the pram.
I have a question about bedding. I know we need to buy a new mattress for the Moses basket and also for the cot. what is recommended for mattresses? There seems to be huge amount of choice... Do we just need a swaddle blanket, fitted sheets for both and cellular blankets? Any help appreciated!

pinkapples Sun 24-Feb-13 18:02:10

Sunbeam ill second that question as no clue what baby is meant to sleep in blanket sleeping bag sheet etc confused

redwellybluewelly Sun 24-Feb-13 18:09:24

I did a long post about blankets on the old thread, I'll see if I can find it when I get on the pc later

Mawgatron Sun 24-Feb-13 20:04:36

Hi all! Back from my weekend away in Beverley, 3g was crap all weekend so didn't get a chance to check in. Went to stay with brother in law and his husband, spent a FORTUNE on eating out, but have had a lovely time.

Mrs Bri he has been very apologetic, and we had a really good discussion (and it was actually a discussion rather than an argument), felt much better after talking it through properly with him, and I think he has finally got the message. Glad to hear it is not just me with a DH who is irritating though!

Picked up our Stokke Sleepi from Birmingham on the way to Bev, really excited to get it up and installed, but we cant get it up until DH has painted bubba's room (he is also a decorator who is a perfectionist - it needs to be just so!). It's an ebay job, but the previous owner is much more organised than I would ever be and has kept everything (box/instructions/teeny tiny parts etc) so it is basically like new.

with a little, we aren't getting a bug or an Icandy! going for an uppababy vista, but we need to save for a couple of paychecks before we can get it. My nan is insisting on getting our baby monitor, so we don't have to worry about that. We also had a load of baby clothes donated, so everything is really falling into place.

just started getting heartburn regularly - have never had it before and it sucks! what is the best remedy that people have come across?

16 weeks to go!

Mawg - try Rennies or Gaviscon - if you speak to your MW next time you see her she might be nice and write you a prescription for it (aniseed tastes least revolting IME!)

Redwelly - glad you're feeling a bit better today and baby is kicking away smile

Everyone on about decorating - I think your DH's are fab! DH is rubbish at decorating, end up with paint everywhere and really sloppy cutting in etc so I did it myself. Mind you, he wouldn't be able to get rid of me anywhere unless he wanted to pay for me to stay in a hotel for a night or two grin

26 weeks today! grin somewhere between 10 and 12 weeks to go...EEK!

MrsBri Sun 24-Feb-13 20:30:23

That's good news, Maw...I'm so glad it worked. With those situations, it's easy for it to swing the other way.

I'm also glad you understand the perfectionist DH re decorating! It's just easier for me to not get involved :-) I have to admit he does an awesome job, even if I find it kind of frustrating!

Sounds like you had a lovely weekend all round.

SunnyL Sun 24-Feb-13 21:14:29

I'm on the indigestion bus Maw. I find the liquid Gaviscon is the most