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August 2013 Part 3 - Adventures in the second trimester!

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FoofFighter Wed 06-Feb-13 17:46:22

Thanks for the new fred Foof I'm hoping my adventures include an end to Hyperemesis! Really missing my own bed and pillows (what is it with hospitals being so uncomfortable to sleep in?)

I'm 15 + 1 so in less than 5 weeks I'll be half way there. Yay!

FoofFighter Wed 06-Feb-13 19:02:17

It's great that you are being so positive still despite feeling I am sure like utter crud waves any idea how long you'll be in for this time round?

Yvonney Wed 06-Feb-13 19:14:54

Mayanbob - my scan date is Valentine's day, I think its Mrswasj who doesn't have a date yet x
Midwife phoned me this afternoon as she forgot to bring birth notes from my DS to my house this morning. She went over everything and why it had ended up being a forceps delivery. It actually made me feel better abt what happened and not so scared for this time! smile

Yvonney Wed 06-Feb-13 19:15:34

ps take care Waves x thanks

JollyRedGiant Wed 06-Feb-13 19:17:16

Well done, Foof. Just signing in. Only 38 hours to go until my first scan. Thank goodness. Can't cope with waiting any longer.

JollyRedGiant Wed 06-Feb-13 19:17:41


Hope you feel better soon waves smile

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 06-Feb-13 19:21:07

Foof, thanks for the new thread!

cloth nappies; we use them part time with DS (smartipants brand, popper outer & a cloth insert, useless for a beanpole newborn, didn't use them until 3 months), no matter what configuration we use they're not good enough to get through a night, so he has disps at night.
We do tumble dry them, but they do seem to air dry quite quickly.
I know you can buy 'eco' disps (never tried them, will for next one), but you can buy biodegradable wipes & nappy sacks, so you can use non-reuseables without the guilt, I use reuseable wipes (cheap flannels).
If you're going down the cloth nappy route, check with your local council if they do discounts, Real Nappies for London [http://www.realnappiesforlondon.org.uk/ website]] have a list of meets & tell you if you're eligible for a voucher (in my case it's £40! hurrah).

waves, there is nothing comfortable about a hospital bed. I really hope you're out asap...what's the longest you've had hyperemesis for?

Mayan, good luck tomorrow! I'll join you with the terrified & excited all at once, I think there is one/two more scanees tomorrow? Good luck to whomever it is <babybrain>

We've not had sex since finding out I was pg, mc last time & slight spotting earlier in pg means we're waiting until tomorrow...hopefully it's all good news & we can celebrate with what got us here in the first place grin


Depressingly, I had HG til birth with DD although it lessened in gravity the last 16 weeks. Still hoping for an earlier end this time! ( less weight to lose after though, silver linings or something?)

Thanks for the new thread Foof
Waves hope you are doing ok thanks

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 06-Feb-13 19:28:20
Ditsy79 Wed 06-Feb-13 19:28:25

waves hope you are feeling loads better very soon.
Just wanted opinions on something. My boss knows I'm pregnant, I told her quite early on - I'm now 14+1. Anyway she phoned me today and said that we need to fill in the maternity paperwork for HR tomorrow, so I Ned to decide when I'll be going on mat leave. I think it's far too early for me to make that decision, I would rather wait until after the 20-week scan. I don't want to be tied to something further down the line. It's my 1st child, so I don't know how I will be later on in the pregnancy. I know she's trying to get cover sorted out, but do you think she can expect me to commit to dates this early on? Feeling a bit stressed now as I am meeting her tomorrow, and know she will try and push me into things. Any ideas/advice on how to handle the situation?!

FoofFighter Wed 06-Feb-13 19:43:25

As far as I know/have read, you don't have to give them your intentions til week 25 of pregnancy? You don't get your MATB1 form anyway till 20-22 weeks.

I am a cleaner which is obviously rather physical, so although am hoping to get to 35 weeks, will take it as it comes, my employers are friends of ours so I would imagine that as long as I give them a rough estimate, and then if I need to finish early, a weeks notice, then I should be ok.

We were looking into OH taking paternity leave for a week or two - no sad as he'd only get £135 each of those weeks we cannot afford that, he'll have to dip into his holiday allowance and only take a couple of days off. What's the point of offering them time off if they cannot really afford to do it? sad

FoofFighter Wed 06-Feb-13 19:45:04
Boosiehs Wed 06-Feb-13 19:45:43

That's annoying foof

Sorry to hear you're so sickly waves. sad

RugBugs Wed 06-Feb-13 19:53:14

Thanks to foof for the new thread.

Ditsy The way it worked in my former (public sector) workplace was that women tended to say they'd work up to 38 weeks. If they then struggled before this mw/dr would sign them off sick and their maternity leave kicked in automatically if it was beyond a certain point.
It's not as inflexible as it seems.

Good luck to those with scans tomorrow, I will admit I barely slept last night. I would put up a pic if I had the energy to get out the laptop. We got a great nub shot but I can't quite make out the angle.

Mayanbob Wed 06-Feb-13 19:54:36

Oh gosh. Sorry yvonney and MrsWasj for muddle. massive babybrain/ scan anxiety.

On the sex subject... I too am abstinent but that's because i've been too scared to do anything. Hopefully feel better after tomorrow.

Take care all. Sorry i'm la-la

FoofFighter Wed 06-Feb-13 19:54:37


Ditsy79 Wed 06-Feb-13 20:11:49

Thanks for the info, and the link foof
I thought I didn't have to make a decision until 25 weeks, so I'll just tell her that tomorrow. She's bound to see her arse about it, but that's not my problem!

FoofFighter Wed 06-Feb-13 20:15:50

Nope, tis the law smile

RugBugs Wed 06-Feb-13 21:09:16

Foof I think the nub is the developing external genetalia, anything at an angle of +35 degrees to a straight spine is meant to be a boy. Supposedly a 95% accuracy rate at 13 weeks.
Measured mine and its 40 degrees, managed to get a pic on profile and the nub is the bright white bit at the rump.

RuckAndRoll Wed 06-Feb-13 21:13:51

just checking in on the new thread. I've been reading but not commenting as I'm off sick still and feeling really rough.

got my scan on Friday so concentrating on getting past that smile


blondecat Wed 06-Feb-13 22:14:06

Just checking in on the new thread

Bean still hanging on smile

Hot coco and marshmallows all around. And ginger tea for all still suffering nausea

DaveMccave Wed 06-Feb-13 22:34:16

Checking in too. Dating scan tomorrow at 11! Not so nervous since I've been feelin non stop flutters since yesterday, either this baby is very active or I have serious digestive problems! Good luck to everyone else with a scan tomorrow.

Stopsittingonyoursister Wed 06-Feb-13 22:47:23

Ditsy the due dates we all have at the moment is +/- 5 days accuracy and you don't get your MATB1 until the 20 week scan in my area, so it is really impossible to give any firm dates until then.

With my work, I have given them a rough idea of when I expect to go off on mat leave (end of July, due date 1.8.13) but I will have around 3 or 4 weeks of holiday due to take which means that actually I won't be at work for most if not all of July. However, I haven't given any formal indications yet.

I think (from memory) how it works is that you have to give them your intentions for mat leave by 25 weeks, but if you are subsequently off sick for a pregnancy related reason any time after 28 weeks, then your employer can automatically start your maternity leave at that time. At the other end, I think you just have to give your employer 28 days notice of your intention to return. Your employer's HR department should be able to give you a copy of your maternity policy.

foof rubbish about your DP's paternity leave, I hope he gets something sorted out.

blonde glad you are still with us!

mayanbob good luck tomorrow with your scan. Congrats to those with good scans today and yesterday!

Hang on in there, waves, sending non-vom vibes to you.

oxford very pleased to hear that all is well, I love Isabella Oliver stuff, just trying to find a reason to buy more maternity clothes this time round when technically I have everything I could possibly need....

Real nappies - we tried them with DS1 and hated them with a passion. We used the little lamb nappies. Very good in terms of absorbency but difficult to wash (had to wash the inner nappy and the outer waterproof bits separately to stop fluff getting in the velcro), and either spend a fortune on tumble drying or sat with wet nappies on every available radiator trying to get them dry. However, the thing I hated about them most was that they didn't fit under any of DS's trousers. He had to wear the next size up trousers just to get over the nappy which were then too long for him in the leg, and they were so bulky that they stopped him rolling and he never crawled. And he looked so fat on all his baby photos, and it was just the nappies! Didn't use them with DD and she crawled everywhere, and it was just so much less faff, tbh. So disposables all the way for me this time round I'm afraid.

Hope all those still feeling sick get better soon, and we can all get on with this supposed glow...


Abilee90 Wed 06-Feb-13 23:45:49

Feeling very unloved tonight sad dh been in a terrible mood, basically ignored me and slept the whole time since dd went to bed sad really down.
Kidney infection still hasnt cleared and now my heart condition is playing up sad just tops horrible evening off. So now sulking in bed with my two teddys to cuddle, listening to dd breathing.

Sorry ladies just needed a rant

Chuckaluck Thu 07-Feb-13 06:19:10

Hi all, just stamping my place on the new thread. Have been reading but not posted for a while.

Oxford great news for you. Am so pleased for you.

On the maternity leave, I work in HR so company cannot force a decision out of you until at least 25 weeks so don't let her bully you! HR will know that so see them if your boss won't let it drop. When you return you have to give 8 weeks notice and if you are off sick due to pregnancy 4 weeks before due date then they can start your maternity leave early.

For any Isabella Oliver fans, I made an order and they sent me a discount code to share with friends. It's 15% off so shop away! Code is LOYAL 15 and it's valid until end of Feb.

Hormones have definately kicked in here. Feeling a mixture of energetic and happy and useless and depressed. DH thinks I am a mad women, wants to make me feel better but really doesn't know what to do with himself! It's quite sweet really but annoying! On the plus side, skin is a lot better and pretty sure I felt baby move for first time yesterday. It was such a strange sensation, like someone tapping very gently on my stomach from the inside. Felt lovely but strange!

Yvonney Thu 07-Feb-13 07:28:12

Abilee - sorry your having such a crap time, sending hugs x

I had to quickly share my dream before I get ready for work. All my teeth were falling out!!! My front teeth stayed in but all the back ones were just dropping out, I was walking round with a handful of teeth! Classic anxiety dream or what!? grin I was so relieved when I woke up! smile
Have a good day everyone x

Abi sorry to hear you had a shitty evening. Hope you had a good sleep and are feeling better.
Sending feel better vibes to all of you still feeling grotty thanksthanks
I'm feeling decidedly better this week and now 15+2 so hoping the next couple of months will be better. I'm off on hols 2 weeks tomorrow and REALLY want to feel healthy(ish) for that!!

Abi sorry to hear you had a shitty evening. Hope you had a good sleep and are feeling better.
Sending feel better vibes to all of you still feeling grotty thanksthanks
I'm feeling decidedly better this week and now 15+2 so hoping the next couple of months will be better. I'm off on hols 2 weeks tomorrow and REALLY want to feel healthy(ish) for that!!

hello ladies on our new thread!!

enjoy the holiday remembering

yvonney - i had a dream about labour last night lol another classic anxiety one! in good news i had a small baby, only took a few pushes (ha ha as if!) and it was a girl. hee!

chuck - thanks for the isabella oliver code!

abi - sorry you've been having a tough time sad

After vomity night on Monday, needing day off work on Tues, yesterday was pretty good, even managed to meet a friend for a coffee last night. Today, however, have woken up loaded with a horrible head cold. Wish I could have a lemsip with a slug of whiskey in it and go back to bed. Gah!! Not sure DS would enjoy a long morning nap tho, esp as he's currently piling all his toys around me where i'm lying on sofa grin

Christelle2207 Thu 07-Feb-13 08:36:33

Ditsy I think your boss needs to bugger off. Completely unreasonable.

Chocolate thanks so much for suggesting funmum. I am very tall and thought longer length maternity trousers didn't exist.

re. nappies I have no idea - dh and I are adamant that we want to give cloth nappies a go but naively i never thought of the drying issue - dh is vehemently against getting a tumble. Guess we need to look into these things properly at some point. Seems a complete minefield to me.

is it normal to be 15 weeks and still not feel anything?

snowshine I feel your pain, had this shitty cold now for over a week am getting better but s l o w l y. DH now also has it so there's two miserable people in the house. Spoke to doc yesterday and he confirmed that absolutely no kind of decongestant is considered safe. Great.

RugBugs Thu 07-Feb-13 08:40:33

Sorry to hear you had a shitty evening Abi

Colds are a bitch when you can't take the good stuff for them LittleMiss, I've been drinking lots and water with honey and lemon and sniffing at DD's vaporubbed chest!

Hope you get to see baby wriggling lots at your scan Dave

Christelle2207 Thu 07-Feb-13 08:51:35

what's the general vibe on here re nct? About to book myself on, they're claiming "limited availability" for the course I want.

JollyRedGiant Thu 07-Feb-13 08:56:03

My last pg I posted on here at 17+6 saying I still wasn't 100% sure I was feeling movement smile

christelle my MW said yesterday with 1st DC it's ok up to 22 weeks not to feel anything. I was a bit shock

JollyRedGiant Thu 07-Feb-13 09:14:17

Also, if you happen to have an anterior placenta you will feel much less.

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 09:30:38

food thanks for new thread :D

I can't see no nub I don't think on mine, but there is abit poking out near the bottom which looks more or less connected to the spine but its not highlighted on mine, looks faint so not sure sad

Currently sat eating porridge with fresh strawberrys and rasberrys a can say its super nice and will be having this all the time now.

abi hope your ok sad can sympathise on the OH part, mine still very distant since been preg, he sleeps in the spare bed lol. Hope your feeling better


Abilee90 Thu 07-Feb-13 09:31:09

Thanks ladies for support was very annoyed last night.
My dd gave me big cuddles in bed this morning and made it feel better. Kids always know what is best.

Hope all you ladies aint well, feel better soon.

DaveMccave Thu 07-Feb-13 09:31:15

stopsitting totally understand why you didn't like them if you stuck with them, did you have the really bulky fluffle type too? I hated bulky nappies on dd, and usually only use 2 parters like that at night. Fortunately there are lots of very slim less bulky quicker drying popper nappies (or Velcro with fold over laundry tabs) on the market but there are so many I can see why it's daunting and why you gave up. Best advice I can give anyone cloth nappy wise is DONT buy a pack of all the same brand. By a variety so you know what you like and for different times of day. What suits a newborn won't suit an older baby, what suits a chubby baby is different to a skint one etc anyone wants to pm me their preferences in a nappy so I can make some brand suggestions that Would suit them I'm happy to offer advice. Just let me know if you would tumble or air dry, if you care about bulkiness, if you prefer super reliable or super cute etc I can also send you in the direction of second hand nappy classifieds which are the fraction of the retail price and mean you can try all sorts of brands.

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 09:31:51

Arghh the phone and stupid predictivity. CORRECTION foof

P.s good luck to those having scans today xxx

DaveMccave Thu 07-Feb-13 09:33:23

Glad you're feeling better abi

Very nervous for the scan now! Hour and a half! I'm waiting till the last minute to drink lots as I don't want it to be ruined by me being so desperate for a wee!

Abilee90 Thu 07-Feb-13 09:33:44

Becki my mr sleeps on sofa. This wasnt planned but its a blessing and he keeps using the excuse that hes getting use to it. We have known for 9 weeks surely thats enough. Making me feel terrible sad


Abilee90 Thu 07-Feb-13 09:34:58

Dave good luck with scan

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 10:12:58

Was a shock to us too, I'd had the coil taken out and was using the app fertility friend to work my way round cycles so I didn't fall preg just yet, 2 months it worked fine, the 3rd however my ovulation changed from day 13/14 to day 17 I already thought I'd ovulated so thought I was safe. He was not happy at all. In last week he seems abit better but still goes on about life how now these are growing up and we have to do it again, my reply is simple...thats life. But it does make you feel so shitty, especially how he wanted a baby I was the one that wasn't sure, then soon as it happens can't handle it. Sure he will come round soon hun. Nothing much he can really do about it is there. Everything in life happens for a reason smile chin up.

dave good luck you will be fine, I did that too just drank it on way there.

sad post just come still no results. Sooo impatient xx

RugBugs Thu 07-Feb-13 10:17:24

I guess girl from your scan Beckie, I think the pair of white lines near the rump are the nub and they are pretty parallel to bottom of spine. Baby looks to have a tall forehead too, boys are meant to have more sloping foreheads (I think the skull theory has been more or less discounted though) it's quite fun to guess.

Abilee90 Thu 07-Feb-13 10:20:51

becki my dh is basically blaming me for this happening. I was on the pill, i was put on some strong medication that cancelled pill out and i was never warned by consultant. Dh is just being male but its upsetting. I wasnt planning on having another yet as dd will only be 20 months but its happening. I love being a mum and cant wait. He being so distant and i hate it. Yesterday dd went to bed at 7:30 so i jumped in bath, i got out and he was asleep. He stayed that way til 11 and i said i'm going to bed. Yh i know he works hard but still isnt fair, i need to talk and get stuff of my chest. He had the hump because i made him go asda but still didnt deserve that. Rant over sorry

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 10:36:26

abi don't say sorry, you need somewere to vent. Men there pretty typical. Thats not your fault at all. Plus no matter what it takes 2 to make a baby. Thats what I tell my OH he says yea but I didnt know you was ovulating, lol. How old is your dp if you don't mind me asking?

rugs I read about the head one, strangely this one does have a different forhead to my boys scan, but I've also seen a few girl scans with flattish forheads. Il post a pik of my ds2 scan pik in a second, they are different xx

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 10:46:30

Put ds2 scan pik up, its a little smaller they never zoomed in on it xx

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 07-Feb-13 11:03:00

Abi, hope he comes round to it soon, we're going to have the same age gap! x

Just back from the scan & all went well, it refused to cooperate with having its NT taken so that took about 5 minutes (5 mins of me thinking 'aaaaahhh! problems!'), didn't get to see any nub as it wouldn't keep still.
Tesco have baby vests for £1.50 atm, doubt they're any good for longterm but it was our 'hurrah! we might have another baby soon!' purchase.

Will post later, DS grumpy.

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 11:11:27

Yayy congrats gary xx

RugBugs Thu 07-Feb-13 11:12:01

Glad the scan went well Gary.
We have some tesco vests from DD and they've stayed really nice and soft, were my favourite ones to use actually. The asda ones we have went stiff and thin quite quickly.

Off to peek at Beckie's DSs scan!

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 11:19:17

I've been super organised this time, already sorted the pram and the cot out smile left everything last min with ds2 and was so stressful, I wanted a single pram, but ds1 starts big school in September, and don't think it be fun walking down with 1 pram and ds1&2 both walking, so got a ted&Phil (think it is) double

Abilee90 Thu 07-Feb-13 11:19:59

He will be 30 in august and i will be 23 in august. My dd is such a good kid, eats everything u put infront of her. Sleeps 7:30pm til 8:30am every day. Hardly cries and isnt naughty much. But he still seems to think it will be hard even tho shes so good. I have the same age gap wih my sister (shes older) and i loved it when we was so close. That what i want for my kids. Dh cousin just had baby and she only has 15 months between her 2 boys. I dont know what is wrong with him.

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 11:34:25

Aww different age to my dp then thought it may have been an age thing, my dp is 24. Thats Brill she sounds a star smile my 2 boys are terrors lol, ds2 will be 2 in April and still doesn't sleep up around 10x a night and ds1 was same up until 1 month before ds2 was born. There is 2.4yrs in both my ds's and there will be just short of 2.4 with ds2 and this baby. It is hard but its easy done and managed, he will see smile xxx

RuckAndRoll Thu 07-Feb-13 11:49:01

christelle wrt nct classes, we're not bothering as apparently the nhs ones are really good around here. also we could afford it, but we would rather not pay out if we don't have to.
I've found a place called physiobumps I've signed up for. run by a midwife and physio and looks great as i have a dodgy back already.

FoofFighter Thu 07-Feb-13 12:27:18

Lots of movement last night, kept me company in the wee hours when i was awake on and off all night, felt like someone had their hand in me and was rummaging!

Teeth crumbling/falling out is my recurring dream when I am worried about something, not had it for a while. I also have dreams about running but not getting anywhere, and driving a car (I can't drive) can guess what the running is, but not what driving is.

Beckie - Phil&Teds are ace! I had one when I was a CM and loved it to pieces. I always fancied a camo one but had to make do with red/grey sad

Talking of prams etc, anyone got any idea what they are going for? I'm going to get an Obaby Zezu, does everything we need it to and most importantly has a very roomy carrycot (well it's a 2in1 convertible seat unit rather than sep) as we live in Scotland and winters can be fierce.

Ruck - up here we get a physio appt automatically between 12 and 22 weeks to discuss any concerns and to learn proper posture etc. You self refer.

Mayanbob Thu 07-Feb-13 12:35:11

gary congrats on scan.

I wish mine took 5 mins! Epic morning. In short, scan is good. Little Puddin did a shoulder stand through the whole thing making NT difficult. At one point they had to call for back up because they thought my bladder was in the wrong side and My vaginal canal was in the wrong place!!! Turned out the equipment was wrong, I am not a freak and my NT is normal.

Took photos to MiL to give her the news to find her acting strangely and not well. Phoned 111, amulance sent and now DH with her at hospital. Seems ok, but worrying still. Still, DH has just shown her photo and she is happy.

Work this pm but currently hiding out in evil coffee shop as suit jacket with DH at hospital. I'm still in gel-y trousers and am completely bewildered. Still I wasn't making it up! I am definately pregnant! And so far so good.

Dexidoo Thu 07-Feb-13 12:41:06

Congrats on today's scans!

Marking my place in the new thread

Ooh Isabella Oliver code, thanks chuck!


RuckAndRoll Thu 07-Feb-13 12:46:20

foof there was something about physio in the pile of paperwork the midwife gave me, but it's drop in for an hour which I feel might only be used for once a problem occurs. It's also at the hospital on the far side of the city, and this one is 5 minutes around the corner!

Mayan and Gary congratulations on good scans and active babies smile can't wait until tomorrow to see ours. oh and Mayan thanks for reminding me to take a change of trousers in the car, last time I had am abdominal ultrasound gel got everywhere and work was not fun that afternoon!

FoofFighter Thu 07-Feb-13 12:46:41
beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 13:09:59

Aww thanks foof mines black and lime green.

Is there anyone on this thread who's already had 3 dc's? I'm worried about afterpains with this one. Didn't have none with ds1 but ds2 ouuchh, cause he was breastfed that made it worse, so would like to know peoples expiriences xx

LexiLoganberryBump Thu 07-Feb-13 13:10:54

I'm rather pissed off, was just chatting to DH about our scan next week and he's just old me that he's on another course and won't be able to attend, really annoyed as when it was arranged the midwife arranged it around DH work and it's probably too short notice to get it altered now.

When you've had your scans have you gone alone or with your partners?

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 13:42:40

lexi I went alone at my 12wk n probably will be at 20wk DP works 1.5hrs away so cant get home and refuses to take a day off cause he's self employed and it leaves his work partner on his own which is not really possible. I was sad but once there it was fine xx

Abilee90 Thu 07-Feb-13 13:53:38

I feel like i'm about to shoot myself over buggys! I dont like the ones that look like the little one in the shopping basket. No offence if people do, my own opinion. So struggling sad

Becki hopefully our dh's buck their ideas up and quick!

RugBugs Thu 07-Feb-13 14:00:20

Lexi my DP is a teacher and it's just pure luck that he's been able to come with me. He had a random day free from classes yesterday, any other day and I would have had to go alone (well with DD).

Beckie I've also got a black and lime phil&teds (explorer), only buggy we've ever purchased and I love it! It was great in the snow and slush the other week. I won't need to use it as a double hopefully (DD will be 2.9) so I've got the peanut to use from newborn.

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 14:00:50

I don't like any double prams abi and refused to have 1 last time but it was easier then ds1 loved to walk, and I lived in center so didn't walk far, but this time I was also looking at singles and DP said you need to be realistic you cannot have single this time, which he's correct about really lol xxx

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 14:02:33

rugs think thats what mine is. Mother in law is keeping it at hers wen we collect it next week xx

Abilee90 Thu 07-Feb-13 14:14:14

I love the bagile double. Can connect a carseat but its a side by side so might not be good for shopping. Its just a head ache to be honest

JollyRedGiant Thu 07-Feb-13 14:18:15

DS will be 2.4 when this bump is born, so we are just going to buy a buggy board. He's good at walking already as i make him walk a lot. I need some new wheels for the pram though as ours are knackered. We used the pram for DS to sleep in downstairs during the day and the Moses basket upstairs at night. I think we will do the same for this one. Especially if I'm having a section and not able to carry the basket up and down the stairs.

We've bought a second hand Bugaboo Chameleon on ebay and got new replacement fabrics and bits so it looks (nearly) as good as new but cost less than £300 rather than £800
DH has enjoyed stripping it apart and making it shiny, clean and well-oiled...
It is SOOOO easy to use and swap between pram/pushchair - just need the Pebble (will buy new) and ISO-FIX base (trawling ebay) now :-)

FoofFighter Thu 07-Feb-13 15:11:23

I had a Cam (and a Frog at one point) loved them both and would have again in a heartbeat if we had the budget. Best single buggy I ever had.

as for doubles, if you don't like P&T style (which would rule out most of the inline ones aside from the older style tank ones like graco duo) then consider side by side, they are usually not more than 74cm wide which means they will fit in a standard doorway - my favourite is the Nipper, can push it with one finger even fully loaded with 2 children in smile

Abilee90 Thu 07-Feb-13 17:00:13

I've just looked at the obaby twin zezu anyons got it? What do u think of it?

blondecat Thu 07-Feb-13 17:05:27

I thought about buggy boards but I am worried about controlling DD when we take buses and go in longer outings with the buggy

She also got v protective of her buggy lately. She won't let me put shopping on it and gets upset if she can't get inside as soon as she sees it. I worry she would get b jealous of the little one

Any buggy board experiences ?

Spotting stopped for 2 days. And just started again with a vengeance. I had dared to hope it was over. Sigh.

I guess we could get a double buggy too but three prams in one house shock

duende Thu 07-Feb-13 18:07:40

I only need a single buggy as DS will be 4 when he baby arrives. I'm considering uppababy vista, baby jogger versa and maybe icandy strawberry. All 3 have parent facing option, all fold in 1 piece and the vista carrycot is certified for overnight sleeping.

With DS we had a pliko pramette and then a petite star zia and now a Maclaren.

DS is going to be just coming 3 when new baby arrives - we swapped our Maclaren for a Britax B Twin last year because they are so high up off the ground and he's a very tall child plus a chronic foot dragger so having something that had him way up in the air was v handy compared to lower down maclaren and I have to say I really like it. It converts into a twin by adding a toddler seat down below and you can buy the seats online for around £50 so going to wait and see. By then DS might not be keen on buggy at all so it might not be worth it, but at least we have the option or we can always fit a buggy board if he seems to prefer that (tho they do seem like a bit of a flipping pain to walk with!)

congrats on scan gary

cold getting wore, packing DS off to bed soon and then hot lemon and trashy tv time!!


Hi, just need some hand-holding....."D"H (I guess he is going to have to become STBXH) has left. I came out of hospital with ketones still up and consequently still very poorly. I am so, so scared, and full of tears. I have a thread about it, but no idea how to link it here.

Anyway, I am terrified now, mostly about the practical things like the house, money etc, especially as i am off work sick still and am likely going to have further hospital admissions. My DCs are being lovely, I am feeling like a piece of poo. I don't want to tell anyone in RL as that will make it even more real, iykwim.

Am about to send an email to a local lawyer, see if maybe I can get a home visit tomorrow. I don't want this to be happening

Waves, I've been following your other thread and am here to hold your MN hand thanks
You've been so strong through such a hard time and your STBXH has been a >>insert rude words of choice here<<. The fact your DCs are happy he's gone speaks volumes !!

You're allowed to feel all the things you're feeling but I know you can do this and it will be better without him xxx
I'm in Somerset, if you ever head to the mainland I'd happily meet you down in Cornwall if you need a brew and a RL chat. Please do try to open up to at least 1 RL friend you can trust tho, it's a lot to carry on your own honey
Here's a big un-mumsnetty >>>>>>hug<<<<<<< thanks

Sorry waves sad You need to prioritise your health and the health of your baby at the min, a home visit from a local solicitor who specialises in family law and separation is a good idea but while you're still in and out of hospital and in such a precarious physical state you really need to try your hardest not to let yourself get overwhelmed with it all. Hope you have a mum / sisters / good friends you can lean on when you feel like you're able to talk about it and who can help you with emotional support and also practical matters like looking after your DCs while you're off your feet. Best of luck thanks

RugBugs Thu 07-Feb-13 19:46:32

Waves I am usually very shit at hand-holding (years of being the strong independent one) but bloody hell you are going through the mill.
I'm a divorcee myself and even though it was me wanting to end the marriage I still grieved for the relationship (and my lost 20's). To have had the rug pulled from underneath you when you are at your most vulnerable and in need of a supporting partner is the worst kind of selfish act there is imo.

I agree with PFEs about telling some people in RL, it does become more real if you talk about it and let it become your reality. I didn't tell a soul for a few months that DH and I had split, I didn't think it was anybody else's business but the support I received from family, friends and colleagues really astounded me.

The practical things will fall into place, try not to worry about the short-term, it will be a transition period.
Fwiw my Dad's partner managed to keep her forever family home by taking in a lodger.

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 19:54:18

waves here for hand holding so sorry your going through this dreadful time,so glad your dc's are there for you thanks chin up hun, were always here to talk and to show you some support xxx

LexiLoganberryBump Thu 07-Feb-13 21:02:43

waves I'm so sorry, hope you soon feel able to confide in someone in RL, like someone else said just focus on your health and your children. Hope your okthanks

blondecat Thu 07-Feb-13 21:08:06

I am so sorry. Please take care of yourself. Take it one moment at a time. Breathe. Focus on getting better

The practical things will fall into place. There will be things you absolutely need to do but probably not immediately. I am sure RL ppl will be incredibly supportive too. You are in the UK right ? Better that than France for divorce law. Even outside of family and friends there are organizations that can help. Don't be afraid to ask for help. You are going trough hell and very vulnerable and in my experience there is goodness in people and most will try and help

All things will pass and you will one day be able to look back at this and just shake your head at him.
Big hugs

Abilee90 Thu 07-Feb-13 21:50:25

Waves hun huge hug and hand hold. Just what you need what a a**h*le arghh. Males are clearly from mars! Why cant they be a support and not be a coward! Sorry makes me so mad. Least you have you dc's fluff him, tell him to fluff himself. You are clearly very strong and no matter what all us mummies are here for u xxx

Stopsittingonyoursister Thu 07-Feb-13 22:02:10

waves I have posted on your other thread, but second everything that has been said here. Big hugs. Stay strong. Vent all your need.

gary and mayan congrats on your scans! dave hope all went well with yours too.

I have had the same pram for both of my DCs and will be having same pram for this one too. It is a Mamas and Papas one, that comes with a lie flat pram that doubles as a carrycot, car seat that fixes to the wheels and best thing of all it is cream with a bright red spotty pattern! I love it. DS was just turning three when DD arrived, and DD will be just over three when this one arrives. We used the buggy board and reins with DS and I intend to do the same with DD this time. DS loved the buggy board, because he could stand and look into the pram, and the reins/wrist strap meant that he couldn't run on to the road. We also taught him at a fairly early stage that if he wasn't on the board he had to hold on to the side of the pram.

dave thank you for the advice on the real nappies. I am talking about nappies from nearly 6 years ago, I'm sure they've probably moved on since then!

I had a dream last night that I was married to the actor Anthony Head (the one from Buffy and the Nescafe Gold ads) and we were trying to work out a way to tell the waiting press. Very odd indeed!

beckie90 Thu 07-Feb-13 22:03:14

Just caught up on last night OBEM the lady who had the c-section her ds's are called same as both my ds's.

I think I have a water infection, can't stop weeing every 5 mins and have a weird heavy pressure down there...any ideas :/? Xxx

Yvonney Thu 07-Feb-13 22:07:32

Waves - so sorry to hear your news. I agree with the others, try confide in a close friend. Stay strong & healthy. We're all hear for you xxx thanks

Noodles80 Thu 07-Feb-13 23:49:35

Hi Ladies, have just been catching up on all the posts. Can't believe it is almost the second trimester already.

Waves - I'm sorry you're having such a tough time. As everyone is saying, don't be afraid to ask people for help. Those who love and care about you would, I'm sure, hate to think that you were struggling on without them being able to support you.

Gary & Mayan - Congrats on your scans.

I am having my scan on Monday! I've decided to go private, as despite being 11+4 now, the earliest booking appointment I could get for midwife was 26th Feb, and then scan after that! Partly my own fault as my work takes me away a lot, but I don't think I can wait until end of Feb to know that all is ok, and hopefully start telling people!

Feeling ok, but still super tired. The baby seems to like green apples, but not so keen on the smell of anything fried! Also developing an addiction to jelly sweets! I'm going to have no teeth left by August!

Mayanbob Fri 08-Feb-13 04:07:40

waves I am so sorry that you are going through this. I can't add to what's been said on here. But look after yourself, you are number 1. Try and make sure you have RL support around you. thanks

Thanks everyone here for scan wishes.

I'm doing the insomnia internetting beccause i've been awake for an hour and am bored. Well, after eventful scan morning, DH went with MiL to hospital. Text updates started off with mini-stroke, developed to stroke and have somehow ended up with inoperable brain cancer.

I haven't spoken to anyone myself (norovirus outbreak, at hospital, one person allowed in) but from what DH says, it could be weeks, it could be months. He's in bits, what started off as the best day in his life to date has become the worst. I'm being the 'strong pragmatic one' which i'm just about managing, but so hard. Will post full thread in some other more relevant area, but I know it sounds selfish, but my rock has now crumbled and things are reversed. 'fortunately' I have experience of losing a parent to terminal illness (dad) and of having a mother critically ill in hospital (better at the moment), so I do know what he's going through. Agggh.

This should be for another thread elsewhere before it becomes a mega-essay.

In short. Bollocks. Might be around less for a while (unless the insomnnia keeps up... )

Good morning all!

waves hope you're feeling a little better today. thanks

Mayan I'm so sorry, it's must have been so bittersweet a day for you both sad

There is so much going on in everyone's lives it is putting my stresses into perspective. My thoughts are with all of you having a tough time thanksthanksthanks

Hope today's a better day.

Jollymummy2 Fri 08-Feb-13 07:56:04

Mayan, what an awful time for you and your family.
It puts my worries into perspective!

I have my scan today and am really nervous. After scan we will be able to tell the world, at the moment it's only family and close friends that know.

Big hugs to all suffering with pregnancy and non pregnancy dramas.

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 08:02:48

Good luck with the scan today jolly

mayan sorry for the awful time you and your family are going through.

Oh yea noodles I forgot its nearly second trimester, last day of the first for me today.

Good luck of anyone else has scans today xxx


chocolatesolveseverything Fri 08-Feb-13 08:30:10

Waves - Thinking of you, I can't imagine how awful it must be to be treated like that at your most vulnerable time.

Mayan - So sorry to hear about your MiL, I hope you and your DH are able to support each other through this terrible time. My DH's uncle died in very similar circumstances - diagnosed with a stroke for a fortnight, and suddenly they found a brain tumour. He died weeks later in a hospice. The only comfort for family was that he didn't seem to be very uncomfortable, in pain, or distressed. The care he received from hospice staff was excellent. I hope whover is looking after your MiL is equally good.

My 15 week midwife appointment is later this morning. Looking forward to it.

RugBugs Fri 08-Feb-13 08:34:37

Good luck for today Jolly

Mayan your poor DH must be in bits. I hope you can get some clarity on the situation soon, the not knowing is difficult.
There are positive stories out there, we have a good friend living with brain tumours, he passed his driving test this week and is training to be a teacher.

Mayan - So sorry to hear that, v hard time for your family esp coming at a time when you're getting ready to welcome a new addition. Thinking of you all thanks

DS is miserable with cold today and i'm not much better. Both flopped in bed watching CBeebies counting hours til DH is able to get off work a bit early at 3 and come and look after us. Sniffle!! Oh well, there's a lot of it going round, and this is 2nd day for me so it'll be gone soon enough.

Jolly - Good luck today

waves - how you doing this morning?

beckie - hope you're feeling a bit better too? i know this is prob last thing you want to do but they do say to drink a lot of water to try and flush these things out. Also caught up on OBEM last night too!

Christelle2207 Fri 08-Feb-13 09:06:30

Sorry there is so much sadness on the thread at the mo. Mayan and waves I am thinking of you and your very difficult situations.
Waves I think you definitely need to confide in someone in RL. Sure the right person can be the rock of support that you need right now. Are your parents close?

mayan I know every situation is different but my aunt's partner had inoperable brain cancer and things looked vv bleak. Four years later it's being kept at bay and he's doing well - he just goes in for radiotherapy/chemo now and again. Also my mil had a stroke which scared the life out of us however she has recovered to be virtually just the way she was. Really hope there is hope for her.

We have our own (potential) misery this end. FiL is 82 and has been in poor health for many years. Anyway doc now thinks he has bowel cancer - tests on Monday should tell us. This isn't a massive surprise to any of us, but of course my dh is very down about it, yet refuses to talk about it with me properly until we know either way. He (FiL) is so down generally that whatever it is I would worry that he wouldn't have the strength to fight it, but he is so happy about potential new grandchild I'm just really hoping the thought of that will gee him on a bit and of course that he will be around to see meet him/her and (seems unlikely at the moment) see him/her grow up, at least a bit. So sad that my DH has this to worry about at a time which should be happy. He lost his grandmother last month too. Also worried about how best I can support him. Luckily his family is only half an hour away so he can go over there and support as needed. We're both suffering from stinking colds so it's the house of misery over here at the mo. :-(

Hurray for all the recent scans and best of luck to those with theirs today. x

RuckAndRoll Fri 08-Feb-13 09:16:59

so much sadness here at the moment. mayan and waves thinking of you both, you sound so strong.

I've barely slept a wink, have my scan this afternoon and I kept dreaming they couldn't find a baby and were laughing at me and I had never been.pregnant. hopefully it'll go better than that!

RugBugs Fri 08-Feb-13 09:32:07

Good luck with your scan later Ruck

The post was just delivered and a letter from the hospital. My hands were shaking as I opened the letter, only to find my 20 week scan appt. aaarghhhh!

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 09:34:46

Thankyou littlemiss feeling ok today just weeing a lot.

ruck good luck for the scan smile

mayan I also agree with christelle my grandad had inoperable cancer, he got diagnosed in 2010 and he had been ill a while then, they gave him chemo etc and it did shrink some of the tumors. 3yrs on he still has regular checks and chemo and its not grown anymore as yet, so there saying all is good for now. So hopefully there is some hope for your MIL. Hope she's ok and you all have plenty of support. its a very worrying stressful time. Hugs thanks xxx

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 09:36:55

rugs ahhh I'm so jealous I'm awaiting mine, she told me to expect the scan around 19wk, think I was 19+2 with ds2 sooner rather than later smile Haha. Who is actually finding out the sex? Xx

Yes good luck ruck!

rugbugs - yay on scan date!! Mine is 6 weeks today, next mw appt is 2 weeks today, nice to have markers to help time go quicker!!

Also just realised om 14 weeks today. Cheerio first trimester!! I'm ready to start feeling good now any time you're ready to let me stop puking hormones grin

RugBugs Fri 08-Feb-13 09:55:51

Mine is at 19+5 Beckie but in a clinic not at the main hospital. Very odd.

Still waiting on my 16wk consultant appt LittleMiss! I know his clinic is a wed am so can at least plan for when it will be. I need to call my gp surgery and book to see mw for that week too, she only does a half day a week.

My what to expect app tells me anything beyond 13wks is 2nd trimester!
I have realised that at 13/14 weeks we can realistically expect to give birth in six months time!

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 10:07:23

Hmm that us strange rugs maybe there full or something. And 6 months seems a whole lot better then 9 months, I think its going quite fast really. Although in some ways I want it to hurry and in others I dont, once there born it goes so fast, blink and there nearly 2years old and beyond lol x

RuckAndRoll Fri 08-Feb-13 11:53:50

<Stupid question alert>
I've got my scan this afternoon and the letter says to drink 'clear, non gassy fluid'. No problem there. But does weak orange squash count as clear fluid?! I can't stand water on its own.

RugBugs Fri 08-Feb-13 12:17:57

I would say so Ruck I drank peach squash and no complaints from the sonographer. I did have peach smelling burps for the morning though!

DaveMccave Fri 08-Feb-13 12:35:16

Thanks for all the well wishes yesterday, scan went well. I had to go and wait for ten minutes because my bladder wasnt quite full enough, but it didnt take long. Due 18th August smile

Sorry your going through so much at home waves hyperemesis on its own is more than enough for anyone to be dealing with its not fair you've for all that going on too.

As for prams, I wasn't going to bother, just get a few slings and babywear, but a friend has offered me her quinny buzz travel system for free so I'll accept that just in case smile

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 13:02:18

Congrats on your scan dave smile xx

Jollymummy2 Fri 08-Feb-13 13:04:52

Ooh Dave, lucky you, I have my eye on a Quinny Buzz this time after trying about 10 other pushchairs with my other DC!

Scan went well, and baby looked very chilled lying back with its legs crossed.
Not looking forward to the "your having ANOTHER one," comments. It's number 4 not number 10!!

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 08-Feb-13 13:39:26

Hurrah for your good scans Dave & Jolly!

thanks for waves & Mayan

Ruck, I guess they're just making sure people don't drink a litre of coke! I didn't have anything pre-scan & she found everything alright...good luck!

Beckie, we want to find out the sex as we didn't with DS, but will see what we think on the day.

DH felt it move last night for the first time, he got more emotional than me.


Ditsy79 Fri 08-Feb-13 13:41:50

ruck - I think orange squash would be okay. My letter said to drink 2 pints of fluid (but not milk), so I think you'll be alright. Good luck!

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 13:43:21

jolly I've not told anyone yet for that reason, I got the same with my second. So dreading telling people this time xx

rugbugs - Ahh!! 6 months!! Woo hoo!! Too true, my EDD is 6 months tomorrow shock I always thought first trimester was first thirteen weeks and second tri started at 14 weeks. I'm probably just rambling tho!

Still illness HQ at snow towers and DH, who said he'd get away from work early and be home by 3:30 tried to phone and give me some excuse about work being busy and my hormones / headache / wailing toddler made me just put phone down on him lol It's annoying because MiL was perfectly willing to take DH for a few hours today to give me a break since I am also sick as a dog but cos DH was so insistent he'd be back early to take over i've been up since half 6 with a feverish, cross 2 year old. Ho and indeed hum. TGIF!

Also..sorry!! Congrats dave & jolly grin

Congrats Dave and Jolly. Eagerly awaiting news from Ruck!

Beckie we are planning to find out the sex at the 20 week scan if possible - 13/03 so 20+1

JollyRedGiant Fri 08-Feb-13 15:24:12

Hi all.

Sorry to hear your news Waves. Thinking of you and your DC.

Scan today went well. Lovely little bean in there. 1.5mm too small for NT so we are back on Thursday.

Dates changed so 40w is 29th August but having an ELCS which is booked for 22nd August!! Family all very excited smile

New gestation: 11+1

RugBugs Fri 08-Feb-13 15:33:33

Congrats to Dave and Jolly!

I am still undecided about finding out the sex. After seeing the scan I'm really thinking I'm having a boy. I get extra scans because of pre-eclampsia with DD and we're planning a 3/4D scan for my birthday in May so it might be hard to avoid asking that question!

So excited, off down South this evening to see my family. I will finally get cuddles with my niece!

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 15:56:01

Congrats jollyred

rugs just looked at your scan, im leaning towards boy, when I was looking at mine on the screen I thought boy but then looking at scan I think girl.

I do want to find out but DP is been stubborn, so looks like I'm going to be team yellow till I give birth, 26wk of pure torment cause I so wanna know Haha

Dexidoo Fri 08-Feb-13 16:24:39

Trekked back down to London for harmony results and NT today. All went fantastically- trisomy risk is less than 1 in 10000, NT 1.5mm and scan showed all bits appear to be on the right places. Bean has had a growth spurt and am now dated at 12+5 so due date a few days earlier eek

Currently freezing my arse off at Paddington waiting for train home. The promise of chip shop supper will keep me going! Anyone have any nice plans this weekend?

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 16:28:41

Thats fab dexi smile congrats smile xx

RuckAndRoll Fri 08-Feb-13 16:49:09

there's a baby! and it has a heartbeat! grin
been put forward a bit so now 13+5.
totally overwhelmed so will report back later.

FoofFighter Fri 08-Feb-13 17:22:04

fab news re scans, sorry can't name check you all cause of babybrain grin who is left to have one now?

Waves and mayan - biggest of huggles to you both, this pregnancy lark is hard enough going without external factors thrown in sad I hope you get some support during these tough times, remember we are always here to listen too xx thanks

Had a pretty shitty week too but nothing compared to you two so won't go into details just now but it's enough to stress me out!

On the bright side, had a delivery of an ebay purchase, maternity denim skirt, very flattering, looks fab, and most importantly, is blissfuly comfortable! My bump is out one morning, down the next, and I can't get comfy, even in legging and a tunic as i am sitting here now it's digging in argh!

Abilee90 Fri 08-Feb-13 17:47:33

Hey ladies
Congrats on scans smile really happy to see all the good news.

Kidney infection has nearly gone wooo! Fallen in love with the icandy peach blossom twin! Now to find a spare grand and buy a house :/ ah dear! Maybe second hand it will have to be.

Dd is being really loving atm can tell i'm upset, dh still is in same mood sad 3 days now. But looking forward to seeing adopted mum ad taking dd to a soft play area tomorrow smile

How are we all?

Congrats ruck!

foof - ebay sent me a lovely new bump friendly coat yesterday...cheered me up too!!

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 17:57:23

Whooo fab news ruck

abi glad your kidney infection is getting better. I like they icandy twins, very smart smile xxx

Abilee90 Fri 08-Feb-13 18:07:22

Becki very expensive too sad hopefully a shop does a payment scheme. One can hope.

Yea very glad its getting better as i have felt terrible


beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 18:44:20

The one near me, let's you pay 10% deposit and then whatever you want to pay everyweek. It's pretty good for that xxx

Abilee90 Fri 08-Feb-13 19:53:27

Where do u live beckie??

Just had a lovely roast chicken dinner smile actually managed to cook the chicken this time smile really proud of myself lol.

Strange craving cut the broccilli and stork smelt soooo good.


Yvonney Fri 08-Feb-13 20:51:25

Mayan - sending hugs x thanks

Fab news on all the scans! Counting the days until mine next week x


beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 22:01:44

In south yorkshire abi not sure if there is anymore of them shops anywere else or its just here, but its called babyworld. They just give you a little payment card and when its paid off you can take it home xxx

Abilee90 Fri 08-Feb-13 22:03:46

Thats really good, one place does it but their prices are unreal sad
What buggy you going for?
I know a few people in south yorkshire

MrsWajs Fri 08-Feb-13 22:40:41

Wow 6 pages in already!

I think i'll be the last to be scanned now - date is 19th sad I had to phone to get appt as i'd been forgotten. Alternating between angry and upset. I was so geared up for it being on tuesday.
Add to that we told MIL tonight about being pg and she was less than impressed - why i have no idea. Her response was as follows: "oh", to DP - "well i really didn't see you ever going back down that road again!" finished off with "well congratulations i suppose, if it's what you want" WTF is wrong with her!?! So am livid about that too!!

What is the nub thing some of you are speaking about??

Sorry to those of you who are having a hard time at the moment. We're all here to listen so feel free to vent. smile

beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 22:49:37

abi were abouts do you live? I've gone for Phil&teds one.

mrswasj nub is supposed to be a stump bit near the baby rump on 12-13wk scan if it points up more then 30 degrees its supposed to indicate boy less than is suppose to mean girl. Suppose to be quite accurate but its gotta be a good clear pick and be in the correct position xx

Abilee90 Fri 08-Feb-13 22:56:35

I'm an essex (embarrassed lol) mummy.
A mummy group i'm on has some mummys in yorkshire who i have become quite close to smile


beckie90 Fri 08-Feb-13 23:01:47

Embarrassed lol don't be daft, I'd love to visit there one time, Im obsessed with TOWIE Haha xxx

Abilee90 Fri 08-Feb-13 23:04:07

Oh i'm nothing like them lol, but hey if you ever do pop down my door is open for a cuppa smile

OxfordToLondoner Fri 08-Feb-13 23:11:50

Despite my name I'm actually an Essex girl too. I grew up in Brentwood, and what's now the Sugar Hut used to be my local. However, I do not have a vajazzle, nor am I a slave to the sunbed.

Mayanbob Fri 08-Feb-13 23:12:53

Dave and Jolly congrats on Scans.

Christelle sorry to hear about your FiL. Seems to be bad news in the air at the moment. and thank you EVERYONE for your kind words.

Mrs Wajs being forgotten isn't nice is it, but glad you have things sorted now. And blatantly MiLs will insist on being problematic in one way or another. smile

update/rant- please feel free to ignore this -way too long and may be abuse of this forum but i need to vent somewhere without feeling like a total bitch: Today has been slightly positive... we're upgraded to a 'we don't know' situation. And we will know on Wednesday. That's better news than yesterday.

MiL has been discharged for weekend (norovirus at hospital) and is at our flat for the weekend, so she's in our bed, i'm on sofa (quite comfy) and DH will be on shitty sofabed from ikea which is in his office (he works from home). I've slept about 6 hours in total over last 2 nights and cracking up a little bit. It's getting hard to be strong without any sleep. Plus DH seems to have given up the fight before it's already begun. I know this sounds selfish, and it's probably sleep deprivation leading this, but whilst being incredibly worried andconcerned for DH and his mum, I am just so angry.

I left work early to come home and ready the flat as he said she'd be sleeping here (flat in a state and not remotely suitable) She's okay, she's lucid, walking, talking and on steroids to reduce swelling. We live on 2nd floor, no lift. We also have a bath/ shower that she won't be able to use unaided due to stepping in and out of the bath (could tell her to sit on edge and swivel but i think she'd forget to do that, trip and fall. That's just her anyway, tumour or no). She lives in supported housing, easy access shower, loo and cord for warden- I said why don't we take turns staying over there. Not even considered by DH and met with a no. However, it's okay- it just would have been nice to be asked.

He left her at her flat this afternoon for a sleep, came home, slept, then went and brought her back. I was making space for her (well the spare room for DH - but the flat really was a tip).

Now MiL is in bed and he's gone round his mate's to drink and smoke weed (which he had given up because he's going to be a father, and he knows I hate- i wasn't too worried with one yesterday because of news but it's going to be his crutch for this I can tell, and he won't stop if I ask him). He didn't ask if that was okay. Just went. I cannot sleep with all this going on and i'll be keeping an ear out for MiL (she went in the airing cupboard for a wee earlier- just a bit lost- rescued at last minute).

I know it's sleep deprivation/ jealousy (he slept till 10 this morning and his afternoon nap for a few hours) but I am just too conflicted. I care about DH, I care about MiL but i'm scared because i'm tired and i'm upset and stressed and I know that's not good for my baby which is freaking me out more.

Sorry for immense length. THANK YOU for the space to get this out. I feel better and may be able to sleep a little bit now when DH returns.

Chuckaluck Sat 09-Feb-13 07:52:08

Mayan and Waves, so sorry to hear your bad news. Please do use this as a place to vent but most importantly take care of yourselves. It's so hard but this is the one time we have to be a bit selfish and put ourselves first!

I think I have overdone things the last few days. Got really bad tugging/stretching pains in my stomach. I don't think it's anything to be too worried about but anyone else had this? I am going to take it easy today and hope they ease off!

Pram wise, it's a complete minefield! I have started l

Chuckaluck Sat 09-Feb-13 07:54:20

Damn phone!

I have started looking. Would love a bugaboo chameleon but at £800 not sure I will be getting one! Mothercare seem to do a cheaper version so might have a look at that smile


Mayan rant away hon, how you got better sleep last night thanks
waves thinking of you, hope you're feeling better
chuck we thought the same on the chameleon so got one for £200 off eBay and brand new fabrics for £45 and new bumper handle for £30 so as good as new for less than £300

beckie90 Sat 09-Feb-13 09:10:19

mayan so sorry for all the stress, I know its hard, use here to vent all you like, its really helpful cause theres people here to listen to you thanks

chuckaluck I feel sooo jealous seeing your 15+5 Haha

abi yes if I ever come to Essex i will call in for a cuppa wink

14+0 xxx

Hope you guys are ok mayan & waves thanks

DS had given me a delightful case of conjunctivitis! One eye is almost swollen shut so i look like a pirate lol and i've been up with DS since ten to six oh well , almost time to cook some sausages for brunch and then a trip to playpark. Zzzz

Sorry to hear about the conjunctivitis littlemiss - good that you are up to cooking and a park trip though smile

Mayan you must be exhausted and feeling quite abandoned at the moment. Pregnancy is such an emotional time, even when everything is going well. I had a completely different sense of abandonment during my first pregnancy, as exH had a major accident at work. He was signed off for months and had a partial finger amputation. I spent the first 6 months between antenatal appointments, working all the hours I could do bring in enough money, and taking him for orthopaedic consultations, and surgery. It was completely draining. He also got diagnosed with depression and completely retreated.

Of course you feel angry - that is the most natural of reactions. And yes, the stress is not going to help you. Are there people who can give you some support? I really hope so, and I hope that finding out a definite answer re MIL will help in some way.

I'm not too good. Still vomiting badly, and am going to call the ward later this morning. My mum has taken my DCs to their swimming lesson as I can barely walk about the house let alone up the road to the leisure centre. I'm sat here with what used to be one of my mixing bowls, but is now my official sick bowl, on my lap sad

No word at all from "D"H. He must have no heart at all.

Abilee90 Sat 09-Feb-13 09:46:26

Oxford brentwood use to be lovely until it was taken over by orange, extremely annoying people. They really bug me, i'm a million miles from being them. Never been on sunbed nor have i faked tanned. I have 7 tattoos and defo dont say reem (brrrrr)

I defo want the icandy, because it converts back into a single buggy smile

A family member has it for her 2 so gonna see what it like with 2 kiddies


beckie90 Sat 09-Feb-13 09:52:52

Haha reem or thats the worst lmao. I went away last year and there was this man in our hotel that had a reem tattoo on his back and called himself joey Essex Haha. Even though he looked nothing like him xxx

Chuckaluck Sat 09-Feb-13 10:08:33

Oooo PFEs, I hadnot thought of doing that! (goes off to start trawling eBay!)

GaryBuseysTeeth Sat 09-Feb-13 11:27:05

Congrats Jolly, Ruck on the scan & Dexi on the harmony results.

Mayan, it sounds very stressful...and like MIL would be so much better off at home.
Re. the weed, is there anything you can do that'll make him cut it out, the stress he's feeling now will be nothing compared to how crap you'll both be feeling in the first few months of sleep deprevation/learning the ropes with your newborn & if he's going to sod off & get high when ever it gets too tough it's not going to be great for you/baby.
Rant away here as much as is needed x

Chuck, Mothercare buggies are apparently awful & their aftercare/servicing is shopping. Plus they may not be around when baby is 6 months old & pushchair breaks so I'd advise you to go with another retailer/brand!
Is the tightening quite painful for a very short time? I've just started having Braxton Hicks & they're painful/sharp jab-like when they catch you off guard.

It's too early for us to decide but like Dave hoping to sling it for the first 6 months & then get a Joovy Caboose for them both, we're not on the ground floor & I need a narrow buggy that doesn't weigh much for bumping up/down stairs & this ticks all the boxes.

Avast ye salty dog DredPirateSnowshine, hope the eye gets better soon!

brew for waves, one day at a time...xx

Hope everyone has a good weekend!
Think I mentioned it? But DH felt it move for the first time on Thursday night..think he's realised we may be having another baby grin


stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 12:11:32

Just joining in, hope that's ok? Due 6th August here (:

Welcome Stacey

I can't remember who recommended funmum maternity clothes - my jeans and linen trousers turned up and they're fab! THANK YOU!!
I got a 10% off promo code with my order, valid for next 21 days if it's useful for anyone? LLH0701

stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 12:28:12

I'm still trying to kid myself I can fit into size 8/10.. Even if it is leggings worn low under the bump!

Hi Stacey - there is a stats thread about somewhere that you can add yourself to smile

I'm heading back to hospital as soon as I can find a lift. About to start sending begging texts. Still fitting in my size 8 jeans despite the hint of a bump. I guess that is what the half stone weight loss caused by hyperemesis will do! So, may be a while before I get onto maternity clothes shopping, although I did order a couple of new bras which should arrive next week.

I'm definitely feeling movements now which is lovely.

15 + 4

stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 12:32:05

Whats a stats thread? Sorry I'm new lol.

RuckAndRoll Sat 09-Feb-13 12:39:58

Stats Thread I've just updated it myself. Stacey, it just keeps track of who's here and when their due date is. Add yourself on smile

Wondering if I need to move my next midwife appointment now my dates have been changed. It'll be at 18+2 now and the list says it should be 15-17 weeks. Will give the midwife a call on Monday and see what she says. Hoping to go back to work on Thursday but I don't feel safe to drive so can't go to see the client, boss won't be happy.

Still on a high today after seeing our little one yesterday for the first time.

waves hospital is the best place for you, go easy on yourself. If you can't get a lift, phone NHS24 and they can send non-emergency patient transport to collect you.

Sorry to everyone else who's struggling, you're all so strong.

There's actually to it in the first message of this thread - it is where we put who we are, when we are due and if we have any other children smile

FoofFighter Sat 09-Feb-13 12:43:28

Just where you can enter your due date etc if you want, there's a link in the very first post on this fred smile Welcome!

I've got an old swinging crib stashed away at my exH house that I totally forgot about, planning (if it's still there!) to refurb it, it is dark wood, but I want to paint it a lovely cream smile

Almost bought a mamas and papas ultima system today, charity shop in town has the grey/black checked fabric one, the whole kit inc the carrycot stand, for £80 grin but then the GPs are buying the pram that we already chose (obaby zezu) and the way things are looking financially for us just now (just lost £300 a month ouch) it'll be the only new thing the poor mite gets, so left it.

Not much planned here, trying to gut the house and then chinese takeaway later and supposed to be going to the pub as it's a friend of our's birthday but I might not make it that far!

beckie90 Sat 09-Feb-13 12:43:46

Hi stacey welcome smile

stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 13:15:06

Thanks everyone! (: Have updated the stats thread no as well. The obaby zezu is the pram I've picked as well! Also can anyone help? Do I book my 16 week appointment or does the midwife contact me? :S forst timer, can you tell?

Jollymummy2 Sat 09-Feb-13 13:17:26

Well it's all fun fun fun in the "jolly" house today!!
Trying to do a mega house tidy as we have a house viewing tomorrow shock
Unfortunately my nausea has kicked back in, and I have an emotional/clingy 2yr old a stroppy 5yr old and a hormonal 13yr old! Oh yeah and DH is in a foul mood!!
Looking forward to DH going out this evening and wallowing in a bubble bath with a trashy book grin

Hope you are all having a good day

FoofFighter Sat 09-Feb-13 13:45:51

Have you had your booking in appointment yetstacey? Mine next appointment was made when I was there but I suppose each area is different. What colour pram did you pick? I like the lime green, he likes the red, so we are going for the black LOL

Jollymummy, strange you say about nausea coming back, mine has too, the last three days, late afternoon/early evening just like before, yeuch. At least it's not actual being sick for me anyway.

stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 14:41:04

I really like the lime. But don't know if its unisex enough? Yeah had my 12 week scan and booking appointment but it wasn't mentioned. Only noticed when I looked at my notes.

Silver15 Sat 09-Feb-13 15:17:55

Hello ladies,

Just marking my place on the new thread. I haven't posted in a while but all is ok.

Welcome Stacey.

FoofFighter Sat 09-Feb-13 16:35:29

I'd give them a call then Stacey. I had a play with a lime one in Kiddiecare and it was a lot lighter than it looked on the net, loved it though and definitely unisex smile

hello Silver, you keeping well?

stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 16:40:47

need to find a local stockist they all seem to be online. Need to have a play with one. Glad to hear it though cause I really liked the lime. Yeah will give them a ring.

Abilee90 Sat 09-Feb-13 17:45:22

Stacey if you in essex at lakeside we have a huge kiddicare. They have it in there. Also due the 6th smile

Dh has become even more nasty and i've spent the last 3 nights crying.
Took dd to a soft play area today with adopted mum and the other 2 grankids which was lovely, tho crawling round a play area has knocked me out but dd loved it and she also cut to more teeth with out me knowing. So tooth count is up to 11 smile bless her.

Kidney infection has gone yay smile but now got cramping, so got worried and checked bean was ok. Lovely strong heart beat silly mummy. I forgot the worry of it all.

Waves hope hosp can sort you out.

I havent put any weight on and no bump sad at 14 weeks 4 days i thought i would be showing by now. 2 weeks til private and i cant wait.


Mrsd77 Sat 09-Feb-13 17:52:33

Hello all! Marking my place too!

Nothing much to report. Still waiting for NT results but assuming that as its been over a week, everything is ok. Now in process of planning DS' big boy bedroom!

Nausea now comes and goes but still ever so tired. Midwife appointment on Friday.

Hello to Stacey and sorry waves and mayan are having a tough time of it.


Blinking through my sore red eyes to catch up on today's posts hee

foo - also a fan of black as a pram colour, so easy to wipe down and goes with lots of colours of fleecy blankets smile

Hi to stacey

Hope everyone is well, looking forward to some pasta and a lazy night in front of tv!

stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 18:28:27

No where near Essex unfortunately sad though I would love to be! Thanks for the welcomes ladies! X

beckie90 Sat 09-Feb-13 18:31:41

abi poor you sad so sorry he's been so cold. I've lost weight and not showing, other than abit of bloatedness now and again, was really bloated till recently and its just all gone now lol. But tbf bumps with both kids have never been too big I looked about 4 month gone at full term, I like it that way Haha.

Well my DP step-dad really did make me mad today, my grandfather has incurable cancer, chemo shrank it but didnt get rid of it and they cant operate cause its too dangerous, he's gotta go for a brain scan cause he's been getting headaches for a few month now, so I mentioned it to MIL and DP's stepdad and his reply was well your lucky to have grandparents at your age though (im 22) I was like are you serious my grandads only 63, my nan was young when she had mum and mum was 21 when she had me, so my nan and grandad were 40/41 when I was born, felt really insulted with what he said. I know I'm lucky to have my grandparents, but still think it was a pretty horrible insensative thing to say. Sorry for ranting sad


stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 18:39:57

Snap Beckie! 22 here. Not a nice thing to say, sorry to hear about your grandad. My grans in the hospital at the moment, so have an idea of how your feeling. X

beckie90 Sat 09-Feb-13 18:47:08

Thankyou stacey sorry to hear about your gran, hope she's ok. how's your pregnancy going so far? is this your first baby? I have got a lime and black pram, I think lime is pretty good for both smile


stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 19:29:56

Yeah, she's getting there slowly. So hopefully things are on the up. I'm better now than I was had pretty bad sickness and a bit of bleeding. But new medication and no more scares so fingers crossed! (: I really like the lime. Bit different without being completely out there! What pram have you got?

beckie90 Sat 09-Feb-13 19:34:36

I've had to get a double but I got a Phil and teds one. My youngest had a lime green Lunamix though when he turned 1 and loved the colour, only downside it attracted midges haha. Aww bless you, I had some bleeding too, its so scary xxx

stacey212528 Sat 09-Feb-13 19:44:19

My mum said about midgies! Lol. Aw this is my first. Don't know where to start! Lol. Xx

beckie90 Sat 09-Feb-13 19:49:59

It all comes don't worry, this is my 3rd have 2 lil boys, oldest will be nearly 5 when babys born an youngest nearly 2 and half and I still have a panic that I've forgot everything lol xx

FoofFighter Sat 09-Feb-13 20:17:32

Just as well we aren't going for the lime then if it attracts the midges, we live in Scotland!

Christelle2207 Sat 09-Feb-13 20:34:32

Welcome Stacey.

Beckie yes that was an insensitive thing to say. However I feel sad that the last of my gps died when I was 10. Much older than yours admittedly. I hate the thought that my own parents won't be around to see their grandchildren grow up - they're not far off 70 now. Definite downsides to being an older parent - I'm nearly 35.

Still no movements here. However good nt test news! 9000-1. At me age that must be as good as it gets surely.

Chuckaluck Sat 09-Feb-13 20:44:24

Gary it's a good point about the financial stability of Mothercare, had not thought of that! Keep looking at the bugaboos online so think it might have to be a second hand one, smartened up! My parents have offered to pay for pram or cot and thought it was a bit much to ask for a £800 pram!

Dont think pains are Braxton hicks but don't know really. Are quite low down and ok nowam relaxing but after doing food shopping earlier, we're really bad! Had a lean myself on trolley and take baby steps back to car! Seeing midwife on Thursday so will talk to her then.

Going to chill out with some biscuitand my loving dog. Have a great Saturday night all xx

FoofFighter Sat 09-Feb-13 20:45:35

Google round ligament pain and see if it feels like that, I get it if I overdo it or get up/sit down too fast.

beckie90 Sat 09-Feb-13 21:09:37

christelle Ye my mums sister had her 1st when I had my first, she was 36, my little cousin is 4 now and my nan n grandad are both 63 so they was older with her. And thats a fantastic NT result, still awaiting mine 11 days later, they said within 2wk so can't be long now

Abilee90 Sat 09-Feb-13 22:55:07

I really want a bump, i didnt show til 22 weeks with dd. i have had no appetite today but it came back tonight and i mullered a plate of homemade chilli and half a big bar of dairy milk lol what a fatty. Was lovely.

Dd is out for the count and i'm in bed struggling to keep eyes open.

Becki my grandparents were everything to me, that was very insensitive. I'm lucky my in laws are lovely but ob yours need a compassion bone. Big hugs.

Dh is out for evening so can relax, i cant take much more of him. Sick of being left in tears not fair on bean. Fingers crossed he bucks up his ideas

Welcome stacey, also 22, 23 on august 11th. This is my second baby. Congrates on first baby. You are my due date buddy. Praying i dont go over due this time went 14 days over and then 37.5 hours of labour took me to a total of 16 days over due. Fingers crossed i dont this time anf i have an easy labour xxx

MrsPennyapple Sun 10-Feb-13 00:10:24

Hi everyone. I'm such a pleb, only just found the new thread. I've been onto the stats thread and updated my due date as was told at the 12 week scan that I was 6 days further along than I thought, which makes me 14+5 now.

Still only feeling very tiny, occasional movements, that I'm not even really sure are movements. Thought I'd be feeling more by now, I'm not sure whether I should worry or not.

Waves and Mayan so sorry to hear you are both having such tough times at the moment. Both are just awful situations to be dealing with. Wishing I could do more than send virtual hugs. (I'm not terribly huggy really so always feel a bit unsure whether it's the right thing to say, but I'm sure you understand the sentiment.)

Yvonney Sun 10-Feb-13 07:38:02

Morning all, welcome Stacey x
Why is it even when I'm shattered I can't sleep?!? I'm officially 12 weeks tomorrow! Feel miles behind some of you. With my DS I first felt movement at 17 weeks. I didn't have a bump til abt 22 weeks. Re prams, I still have my Mamas & Papas 3in1 even tho 7 years old. We kept it in original box so is in pretty good condition. Would love a newer, trendier one but can't justify it. When I was pregnant last time round my mum worked in a baby shop so we got her discount! She's retired now though sad
Have a good day everyone x


Yvonney Sun 10-Feb-13 07:42:36

ps Beckie - your grandad is soo young, he's younger than my mum! It was an insensitive thing to say, hope everything goes ok with his treatment & scan xxxx thanks

Yvonney Sun 10-Feb-13 07:49:52

pps just looked online and my pram is a Mamas & Papas 9in1 Ultima travel system. Although don't remember it being a 9in1?!? x

blondecat Sun 10-Feb-13 07:55:28

Good Sunday morning everyone

Congratulations on happy scans and big continuing hugs to waves, Beckie and others

I thought I had no bump just has but then DH went to india for one day and when he saw me after a72 hour break he pointed out I had a bump. It just popped out and no amount of pulling in my tummy makes it go away. I credit the non existent stomach muscles grin

Off to wrangle DD and DH for walkers before church

Dexidoo Sun 10-Feb-13 08:20:54

Happy lazy Sunday everyone. Weather is atrocious think I'll take the dog out and then hibernate! Had an amazing sleep last night which is the first in a long time so feeling good.

We have told a few more people now after the results and so starting to actually feel excited rather than just scared. SIL is so excited and already offered us a carseat so all good. I like reading lots of reviews before making any purchasing decisions so 'which?' is getting a lot of use. Thinking about getting a bugaboo bee, has anyone had any experience?

We have antenatal clinic at the hospital on valentines day for bloods & nhs dating scan. Midwife says that she won't need to see me now until 24 weeks!!! She reckons no point in 15-16 week appt as already had Down's screening. At least it is less time to try and get off work.

Sorry to hear about those of you who aren't getting the support you need from your partners. DH is doing pretty well although I could do without the huffing when I don't feel up to eating what he wants or need to go to bed before 9pm!

Wet Sunday blues here. sad film fest may be in order as DH is out all day but I'm lacking inspiration - any ideas?
Abi sorry your DH is being such a **, hope he gets over it soon. Waves and Mayan hope things are improving for you both thanks
Stacey my MW told me I needed to make each appt and it was my responsibility. Defo ring them tomorrow x
MrsPenny MW said movements might not be felt until
22 weeks so I wouldn't worry just yet. Think before 17 weeks is unusual?

Someone said (sorry, forgot who) MW essentially canned the 15/16 week appt. having had mine this week I'd say can you ask for it anyway - get a chance to hear heartbeat and check its sounding good etc so
I'd push for it if I were you?!

I've got a definite bump (that's hard i.e. different from flabby belly) and I've gained c.4kg now blush if I'm only meant to gain 7-11 in total by week 40 I might struggle - ooops!


stacey212528 Sun 10-Feb-13 10:05:06

Morning (: no lazy Sunday for me, off to work. Will give the midwife a ring tomorrow to get that appointment booked. Thanks. Xx

MrsPennyapple Sun 10-Feb-13 10:14:31

Thanks Remembering. When I was pg with DD I didn't find out I was pg until 19 weeks, and realised that what I'd thought was gas was actually baby movement. I thought I might feel it earlier this time, because of actually knowing there's a baby in there - I suppose I am just impatient smile

beckie90 Sun 10-Feb-13 11:49:13

Thankyou yvonney xxx

muddybloodypuddles Sun 10-Feb-13 13:46:35

Hello - could i join in too please??
Currently have 2nd day of feeling relatively okay after feeling nauseous and exhausted for the last 8 weeks lol (no actual throwing up just feeling like crap).
EDD is 5th August so will find the link to add myself smile x

muddybloodypuddles Sun 10-Feb-13 13:47:08

Meant to add - 14+6

beckie90 Sun 10-Feb-13 14:08:30

Hey welcome to the thread muddy smile xx

DaveMccave Sun 10-Feb-13 15:07:10

Welcome muddy

I'm having a lazy day after having to get a locksmith to get home this morning after the mechanism for my deadbolt broke last night. Had to go and stay at my mums very late so it was a right pain. dp is in Ireland 'till Tuesday, so I'm just chilling out till DD is home. Cooking an organic roast and a bread and butter pudding.

My news is totally out now, visited all family last few days and announced on Facebook last night to tell everyone else I've missed. My phone has not stopped since, and in feeling much more relaxed and excited now. Didn't realised how stressed the secret was making me. Only one negative reaction from my brother who lives overseas who is 'furious' apparently. I may not be married, own my own house or have a career, but my daughter is well looked after and loved. And this wasnt even planned, i was using reliable contraception, not that that is any of his business. Sanctimonious prick!

muddybloodypuddles Sun 10-Feb-13 15:29:05

thanks for the welcome beckie and dave

Dave your dinner sounds yummy - mind if i pop round? lol. As for your brother - it must be nice being so 'holier than thou' all the time? could it be he's just a bit concerned about you (not sure what your relationship is like) and feels too far away to be there for you. But you're right, financial trappings don't matter as much as how DC's are treated/loved. It's nice being able to get it out in the open though isn't it - makes it feel more 'official'

DH has a hangover today (went to a wedding yesterday) so i have been very nice and made him bacon bagette for lunch and got him some chocolate for later (erm..and me lol). I said I don't mind as he doesn't get drunk very often (but did add if it was to become more often he wouldnt' get this kind of treatment lol).

FoofFighter Sun 10-Feb-13 16:02:02

I think I have norovirus sad

Welcome muddy & sorry to hearcthat foof sad

In the doldrums, it has been cold, grey and relentlessy rainy for 2 days straight so DS going stir crazy but cold i've been fighting all week has moved into my chest so not in the best form to entertain him - every time i cough i wretch and threw up my whole lunch confused plus some combination of conjunctivitis/coughing/wretching has given me heaps of broken blood vessels in my eyes. I am a flipping shivery, coughing, stuffed up sick mess. Sorry rant over...just getting fed up! Ready to start 'glowing' any day now...

Hope everybody's well x

beckie90 Sun 10-Feb-13 17:53:57

Sorry to hear that foof get well soon xx

dave sorry about your brothers reaction. My pregnancy is still a big secret, and starting to get to me now I so desperatly want to tell my parents but don't want the very negative reaction I'm going to get, but then again I'm happy so thats what should be important.

I've Changed my diet a lot to really healthy and lots of fluid now (I've never drank much water before) and must say the very bloated belly I had in early weeks has now dissapeared, and got increasingly better over last week and is now back to normal, it must be relieved after my terrible previous diet (total junk food lover) I've always been able to eat loads of food and not gained weight so it made me eat even more fatty foods, but my god I feel totally different now and have loads more energy. Definatly going to eat better from now on smile

14+1 xx

Feel better Foof make sure to replace the salts, not just the fluids thanks

Welcome Muddy

muddybloodypuddles Sun 10-Feb-13 18:29:53

Oh dear foof - hope you manage to get lots of rest, I had it when pg before, doc said no harm to baby as its well protected but try to keep hydrated - he prescribed me Diarolyte to sip as I got quite dehydrated. hope its over quickly

littlemiss thanks for the welcome - sorry you're not well either, sounds horrible - go to the docs if you get worried as if it turns into a chest infections it can get nasty - so much going round at the mo - hope it gets better soon

beckie - I've always been an advocate of a healthy diet, it makes such a difference to our moods / energy levels, however I haven't been able to carry it out with the constant nausea / tiredness so bread & butter, chips, crisps, etc have been my main staple... hoping to get back into healthy eating once the 'blooming' starts... (any time now I'm sure!)

Yvonney Sun 10-Feb-13 19:03:14

Welcome Muddy x
Foof - hope it passes soon x
Beckie - just read your post about healthy eating while finishing off a plate of bacon, sausage, toast and tomato sauce!blush Feel like a right pig now but really wanted it lol! I'll make up for it with some fruit later! x

11+6 - nearly 12 weeks!!! grin

beckie90 Sun 10-Feb-13 19:09:45

I agree muddy in the first 5wks after finding out, I couldn't stomach barely anything, then after that it was mainly crisps (hoola hoops lol) but in last week I seem to be craving plenty of fresh fruit oh and raw carrots lol, I'm still eating treats though like a chocolate bar every now and again and last night I ate a Chinese cause DP wanted one so had Thai green curry and rice smile it should pass for you soon smile , still shattered by time it hits 6pm and get headaches but its so much better compared to sickness and dizziness and total exhaustion. Xxx

beckie90 Sun 10-Feb-13 19:15:23

yvonney thats quite healthy to me Haha, my diet used to consist of takeaways something big and greasy haha. When I was expecting ds1 I think all I ate was Chinese blush was far from healthy. Not healthy now really but to me its super healthy Haha xx

stacey212528 Sun 10-Feb-13 19:29:37

Should I feel guilty that I'm reading about healthy diets while crunching my way through a packet of mini eggs? blush

OxfordToLondoner Sun 10-Feb-13 19:41:57

Told DS (aged nearly 5) this weekend. Such a lovely reaction, was sooo pleased. All weekend he's been talking about his little sister (as well as his goldfish, acquired yesterday, which is equally exciting for him). Realised we won't be able to keep the gender a secret though.

Abilee90 Sun 10-Feb-13 19:45:03

We have snow in essex sad blooming typical. Rained all day so thought it wouldnt settle boy was i wrong.

Foof-flat lemonade helped when i had it.

Beckie - healthy eating would consist of more than one meal so that me out, rare accurance that i eat more than one meal a day. Have tried just makes me sick.

Dh is gonna get a swift kick up the bum soon.

Feeling really low and need to snap out of it. When dd is up i'm fine as soon as she in bed get really down.

Havent told my mum yet, i'm really scared of what she will say. I wasnt talking to her when i was preg with dd so worrying. Always told me when i was younger that if i ever came home preg she would kick me out. Kinda stuck in my head now sad


beckie90 Sun 10-Feb-13 19:53:00

No stacey gotta allow treats Haha.

abi I've only had 1 meal today too, well a sandwich, but had plenty of fruit, I feel weird today really full. So I'm not all that healthy ha, just to my standards that is. Still not told my mum either, don't even know how to bring it up, always told her straight away before. Hard isn't it sad


Yvonney Mon 11-Feb-13 06:56:42

Morning, I'm 12 weeks today yippee!!! grin Counting the days and hours til my scan on Thursday. Getting slightly anxious as only ever did one pregnancy test! Really hope there is actually a baby inside lol! x

Have a good day everyone x

12 - finally wink smile grin

Congrats Yvonney it's nice to make the milestones grin
Good luck for Thursday.

I had been feeling loads better but exhausted, nauseous and grumpy this morning. DH is flying stateside today for a week with work and I know IBU but I have overwhelming sense of foreboding - I'm putting it down to the fact he went exactly the same week last year and Mum died on the Thursday. Might need biscuit and brew this week as I'm feeling quite wobbly... sad

beckie90 Mon 11-Feb-13 08:42:24

Morning ladies smile hope everyone is well.

Yayy yvonney

Aww hope your ok remembering thanks xx

Not much happening over here today, had some lovely snowy weather again, so housebound, not even attempting to go anywere with the boys in this, hate been stuck in house.

14+2 xx

Abilee90 Mon 11-Feb-13 09:14:47

Morning smile
14 weeks 6 days today. Only 1 day til i'm 15 weeks. Yay.

Feeling bit better about things today but wont be going out because of snow. A lady is selling a baby jogger city select, dont know weather to go for it. She wants 400 for it, thats with everything. Anyone know if its a good deal. Want to get buggy sorted so i can relax as that the biggest thing. Got moses basket, my brother bought my cot for me. From online for baby and its lovely. Clothes i can pic up as i go and i have plenty of blankets. I have sterrilizer and just need to get bottles if i dont bfeed. So this is thing i'm panicking over.

Hope all are well and who ever has scans go well smile

FoofFighter Mon 11-Feb-13 12:34:11

hello all, feeling a lot better today, the erm.. "output" has stopped now since early this morning so hopefully that's it now, just feel tired, headachey (dehydration I guess, working on that!) and my limbs feel achey/fluey feeling. Slept such a lot yesterday in between bouts then didn't get up till 11 today!

Hope the little monkey is ok anyway, NHS said that it would be. Bump seems to have done a disappearing act again, but then I suppose after the last 36hrs there's nothing left in there to bloat me and stick it out so it's probably where it should be blush

Just had toast, as despite not wanting food, body is telling me it needs it.


Abilee90 Mon 11-Feb-13 12:51:10

Oh foof poor you. Baby will be fine, if you do get worried ring your midwife. Eat stuff you fancy if it hasnt got much or no dairy init.


beckie90 Mon 11-Feb-13 13:08:41

sad hope your ok foof get well soon.

abi I don't have a clue if its a good deal not very good with that lol. I'm buying mine off a friend of DP's cause its not been used right long, but she's asked for 175 for it. She said it was nearly 700 then she bought lots of extras. So I gatherd saved me spending loads more. I've got the cot MIL has bought that for us, need a Moses basket, I sold mine to a friend in august last year lol, I plan to combi feed as ds2 still gets up all night, but if he stops that before babys born then I think Il just be fully breast feeding. Eeeek our scans are next week xxx

FoofFighter Mon 11-Feb-13 13:25:07
GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 11-Feb-13 14:10:50

Happy Monday everyone!
Welcome muddy!

Foof, hope you're feeling better soon. I'm not a fan of these modern buggies (and their prices) but that bugaboo looks decent for 2nd hand. Can I be the shoulder devil that says 'bid for it'?

beckie, abi, snap on the not going out due to snow. It's stopped here now, but the pavements look icy.
beckie, I told my mum via email. The only thing she's concerned about is if I told PIL first hmm
Is that an option for you? Or getting one of your DS's to say something/give her scan pic?

remembering thanks Wobble away. Here to hold a hand if you need it this week.

Mayan, how's the homelife been over the weekend?

Dave, sorry to hear how your brother took the news.


FoofFighter Mon 11-Feb-13 14:22:15

You could be Gary but we've already picked what we want and the Gps are buying it, I doubt they'd want to get secondhand for their PFBGC wink

How are you anyway

Abilee90 Mon 11-Feb-13 14:25:02

Beckie 12 days!!!!!! Ahhh so excited lol. I'm pretty much bouncing of the walks.

My dd is being super cuddly today smile i'm loving it.

I'm gonna have to go tesco as i have a mad craving for beef stroganoff
Yumm lol


RugBugs Mon 11-Feb-13 14:34:53

Hope you're feeling better Foof?

I don't understand why families can't just be supportive of our decisions even if they don't agree with them?
I'm convinced DPs sister is annoyed with us, she's getting married in September and DD is meant to be a flowergirl but since DPs mum told her (for the second time she told DPs sisters before he could) there have been dress appts for the other niece but not DD.

I'm not a fan of bugaboo, I'm with Gary and prefer a more rugged look but the fact that the pram is serviced is a bonus! My Dsis bought a second hand quinny buzz and sent it off to be serviced. It needed a new frame which meant a new seat (new frame had different attachment) so it ended up costing her a whole lot more than she anticipated.

My blood results came through on Saturday (have been away and had a lovely 5hr drive up the country through driving rain/snow yesterday), 1 in 15000 yipee!

beckie90 Mon 11-Feb-13 14:37:29

gary no mother doesn't have an email Haha, think I'm going to pluck up the courage after the scan next week and say here u go lol I'm having a baby.

The snow is cleared up here now, desperately need to go shopping but going to wait til DP gets home. I've just got my NT result after having to ring up cause I'd still not recieved anything 2wk later. It's low risk

abi I'm so so nervous about it, and still trying to persuade DP to let me find out lol


Christelle2207 Mon 11-Feb-13 15:00:52

rug that's great, mine came back as 1 in 9000 - I actually think it's a typo and is meant to be 1 in 900, because overall, other things being equal, 1 in 1000 babies are born with down's, and 1 in 900 is an average score for a 30 year old. I'm nearly 35, so 1 in 900 is a good score, let alone 1 in 9000!

Either way I'm not going to worry about it.

Thanks too to the lady that provided the funmum discount code. Limited range but i have just ordered what I want with a 10% discount. Assuming the quality is good, it seems good value anyway.

RugBugs Mon 11-Feb-13 15:11:35

I will be 32 Christelle and was surprised how high the base risk was, serves me right for nosily reading midwifes wall charts!
But I think the 9000 is right, my Sister was 30 and got 1 in 19000. So assuming they use some kind of formula you can kind of see a pattern with an increased risk of 2k per year.

MrsPennyapple Mon 11-Feb-13 15:40:38

Christelle I'm 35 now and my risk came back as 1 in 2200, so 9000 is probabl right.

Nothing much to report here, except I'm 15 weeks today.

Hope everyone is ok.

beckie90 Mon 11-Feb-13 16:23:31

My result when I was 17 came back as 1 in 800 for my oldest, there was no NT measurement then though just the bloods. Result for ds2 was 1 in 2500 with NT measurement I was 20 when I had him. And my result for this one the lady on the phone today said 1 in 22500. So mine was quite high risk for my age with my 2 boys although obviously its still low risk. Everyone else got a lot lower risk results then me. But that didn't matter cause there obviously fine smile xxx

stacey212528 Mon 11-Feb-13 17:11:19

I couldn't get the test for downs as baby played hide and seek so the midwife couldn't get a neck measurement. Have to go for a blood test at 16 weeks /:
I just left my scan inside a card to "grandad" for my dads birthday and went to work! Lol. Cowards way out I guess. Have a really bad craving for salt and vinegar crisps or strawberries dipped in chocolate! Hope everyone is well. Xxx

muddybloodypuddles Mon 11-Feb-13 18:39:34

Thanks for the welcomes smile

foof - glad you're feeling a bit better and you're listening to your body

MrsPennyapple - snap on EDD smile

Remembering - you're probably feeling more anxious because of pg, we can get more protective of our 'family unit' and considering what happened last time I can see you are working yourself up a bit - we're here to hold your hand but try and think of it as a chance to watch what you want on the tele!

Christelle - I'm 36 and my background risk was 1:327 and adjusted risk (with blood tests) 1:6549 so I also think 9000 is correct for you.

Yvonney - congrats on 12 weeks, and good luck for Thursday!

Thought I was feeling better yesterday but by 5/6pm was feeling awful again...
i have a Quinny Buzz for DS that just needs a good clean and service so hoping to just get a buggy board for it as DS will be 3.6 when this one arrives

has snowed a bit here today but not v glad its not settled (surrey)

muddybloodypuddles Mon 11-Feb-13 18:40:51

Stacey - mmm strawberries (but I can skip the chocolate which is most unlike me!)

stacey212528 Mon 11-Feb-13 19:24:56

Has anyone used/tested the uppababy vista? Or know an average price? From what I can see it varies loads from site to site! I still really like the obaby zezu.

muddy I ended up skipping the strawberries and having an American style cheese toastie ...AMAZING!

FoofFighter Mon 11-Feb-13 19:48:29

I know lots of people rate the vista but I just don't like the look of it. The people on the pushchairs bit of MN rave about it all the time.

for tea I have had a slice of pork pie grin

duende Mon 11-Feb-13 20:06:58

stacey i've found the vista for about £570 -without the car seat. John Lewis sell it for £630 I think, but told me they would price match. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet but I'm considering this or the baby jogger versa.

stacey212528 Mon 11-Feb-13 20:11:10

I honestly don't even know where to start.I really like the zezu but concerned that the harness would dig into baby while on pram mode. Thought about a mattress but thought it might make the pram too shallow. Ahhhhhh decisions!

Abilee90 Mon 11-Feb-13 20:43:26

Foof my dd has noro virus as we speak sad she has covered me in vomit twice. Even 5mls of water is being brought back up sad
Praying i dont get it. Dh had a moan as i was gagging at smell but couldnt help it. Preg makes my smell terrible sad


Yvonney Mon 11-Feb-13 20:50:23

Stacey - ooh what exactly is an American style cheese toastie?! Sounds yummy grin

Percephone Mon 11-Feb-13 21:02:01

How do you get the Down's screening result? Do they send a letter? I forgot to ask (doh) and not seeing midwife again til 18 weeks.

Gary Muddy Beckie thanks for your kind works and thanks

Got home tonight to empty house - no DH, no dog - and burst into tears. What a wuss!! I wish I could have some wine
I also feel so bad as half of you are ill and Mayan and Waves are really having something to cry about and they're being so amazing and strong. Need to pull myself together.
Sorry for the 'poor me' but I feel better now!

Foof hope you're better soon too!

FoofFighter Mon 11-Feb-13 21:10:30

Stacey, the harness straps come out when it is in pram mode and the pram liner has it's own built in soft harness on a Zezu smile

Abi, hope she's fine soon and keeps it to herself! Slap to your OH, he should be taking his turn helping.

PFE, why the tears you daftie smile yes am feeling huge amounts better, am starving hungry now but just nibbling bits till am sure I am safe!

stacey212528 Mon 11-Feb-13 21:10:57

Yvonney so you butter the outside of the bread, put LOADS of cheese in the middle. So like a sandwich and put in the frying pan without oil. 2 minutes then flip. It's basically a fatty version of the toadtie but tastes ten times better all crunchy and gooey at the same time. In fact I'm off to make another one.

beckie90 Mon 11-Feb-13 21:16:34

percephone yes if you had the screening they send you a letter out.

abi hope your DD gets better soon, awful when kiddies are ill. Hope you don't get it


beckie90 Mon 11-Feb-13 21:17:49

stacey Omg now I want what you just said. Yum xx

Percephone Mon 11-Feb-13 21:20:26

Thanks beckie I will look out for a letter then smile

stacey212528 Mon 11-Feb-13 21:22:18

It's amazing. I have to limit it though. Lots of grease lol. Xx

beckie90 Mon 11-Feb-13 21:37:02

No problem percephone they told me within 2wk of the scan which would be tomorow, but still not recieved it today so I rang them up, they gave it me over phone. If it gets a long time, ring the ante natal clinic they should tell you.

Ahh but I like greasy food so thats fab ha. I had a salad for my tea from the salad bar at Morrisons and it didn't do the trick, I'm starving xx

Yvonney Mon 11-Feb-13 21:40:28

Stacey - that sounds fab! Going to make one tomorrow smile

Yvonney Mon 11-Feb-13 21:55:14

Remembering - its understandable its going to be a tough/wobbly week for you, take care brew thanks x

DaveMccave Mon 11-Feb-13 23:39:21

Glad you're feeling better foof. I had a vomiting bug at the peak of y morning sickness, I could barel tell the difference, it was just more forceful and dd and dp had it too! Not nice, but it doesn't harm the baby. Apparently you can't get true norovirus for about 2 years at least once you've had it, this seems true for me. So at least you won't have to deal with it with a little baby, hey?!

Sorry you're feeling lonely remembering. My dp is away in Ireland this week, missing him makes a nice chane though, I've felt really smothered and been spoiling for fights recently.

My friend who was giving me the quinny buzz messages to say it broke the other day sad. Still, I don't think I'll bother finding a replacement. I've bought 2 stretch wraps already, and want to get a connecta.

Dexidoo Tue 12-Feb-13 07:30:54

Hope all of the horrible viruses are on their way.

(Hugs) remembering hope you are doing ok. Things are bothering me (emotionally) much more than usual on the verge of tears watching friends yesterday!

Told work colleagues yesterday- mostly women in their late 40's-50's and they are all very excited. A couple of them said they had suspected, been so green and listless for weeks.

Feeling much better in myself probably psychological but want to feel more normal now. Actually managed a proper breakfast (porridge) and a day without sweets yesterday, miracle!

JollyRedGiant Tue 12-Feb-13 07:50:56

God, loads of us are having shit luck at the moment.

Yesterday, I found out I'm likely to be made redundant from my second job and not get maternity leave - not the end of the world but we'll be on much less solid ground financially. Also our second car has broken down and will cost far too much to repair. Finally, someone I respect and love who had been good to me over many years has been given a diagnosis of terminal cancer and is likely to only live weeks.

Poor bump is having to put up with me crying lots at the moment sad

Sending you all hugs and ice cream.

Dave Dexi thanks! Just had a goo chat on the phone to DH and a chat about Mum too. Bittersweet but feeling a little stronger today smile

Hope everyone is feeling better and have a great day today xx
Waves and Mayan how are things going with you both?

beckie90 Tue 12-Feb-13 08:50:41

dave thats intresting, my dp has had it but me and kids didn't catch it so we must have had it, we had a sickness bug last year, must have been that. I wondered why I wasn't getting it as I get everything going.

jolly sorry to hear about your job sad

Woke up today with the most horrible cold, can't stop coughing, and how rubbish is it when you can't take any medicine.

14+3 xx

MrsWajs Tue 12-Feb-13 09:05:00

Sorry to hear about your friend jolly, that's so sad and your job as well sad

Well finally I'm 12 weeks today and good news, got a call from MW yesterday and there has been a cancellation for NT today so I can have it this week now after all! Very happy but a bit sad as wonder if someone has had to cancel for sad reasons?!

Feeling very symptomless just now so glad I'm not having to wait another week.

Abilee90 Tue 12-Feb-13 09:32:29

Morning ladies, after being up all night my poor dd brought up blood and i had to take her out of hours doc. She is bit bettet this morning, she very quiet and just wants to relax. Which i dont mind at all. She gets such bad tummys, she has a scan booked to see more sad so now worrying. Was defo noro this time so hopefully she wont get it again now.

15 weeks today yay smile baby was going mad last night more than flutters now yay.


Oh, jolly what a horrible time for you sad

Hugs to remembering as well, hope you get through the week ok.

I'm out of hospital again, hoorah, but my new medication won't be here til tomorrow, it is rarely prescribed so not in stock, but it is safe for the baby. So, a very sicky day again already today. I still feel a lot better than I have in a while, having had 7 litres of IV fluids in 48 hours! So today I am on the sofa under a duvet, with a sick bowl, watching tv with the DCs.

Hoping the HG reduces soon, and the new meds work, as I would really like to start to feel glowing, and get excited about buying things for the baby.

16 weeks today smile

beckie90 Tue 12-Feb-13 10:02:09

abi bless your poor dd, hope she's feeling better soon.

waves glad your back out, hope it gets better for you.

Happy pancake day smile currently making mine now smile xxx

Abilee90 Tue 12-Feb-13 10:20:51

Thanks beckie. Its horrid when shes ill. I just want to take it away.
11 days til scan smile

Ah yes pancake day, vanilla ice cream, strawberrys and syrup for my dinner yumm. This poor mummy is warn out. Hoping bean is ok and isnt stressed

beckie90 Tue 12-Feb-13 10:30:42

Bean will be fine smile me n dp had a very unhappy relationship during my pregnancy with ds2 he was always out every night a lot of time didn't come home, I spent a lot of time crying st night and stressed worrying, but ds2 always seemed happy and still is smile there tough little things. Ooo that sounds yum, I just had Orange squeezed onto mine and a sprinkle of sugar, quite simple and boring Haha. I know I'm still not sure if I want to find out ha, I do but I don't because funny thing is I've actually convinced myself its s girl so Il have s right shock when it turns out boy Haha obviously a happy one though xxx

DaveMccave Tue 12-Feb-13 10:47:39

I can't stop buying things! I'm only 13 weeks...Someone please tell me they are the same? Mostly just second hand clothes from eBay and charity shops, some really cute scandi brands, loads of cloth nappies, couple of slings. I'm going to have nothing left to buy if I don't stop. Somebody stop me!

MrsPennyapple Tue 12-Feb-13 11:11:37

Re pushchairs, we bought a Graco when I was expecting DD, it was second hand but had hardly been touched, it came with the carrycot bit and car seat with iso-fix base, and the lady threw in another brand new bigger car seat she'd bought because it matched, but had then decided she didn't like any of it. We got the lot for £210, absolute BARGAIN. It is big and heavy, but also very sturdy, and although it's not the most nimble pushchair, I really like it, so will be using it for DC2. I wasn't driving when we got it, so walked everywhere with it, and it has a huge basket underneath for plenty of shopping.

Waves Glad you're feeling ok, hope the medication works and you can get on with glowing smile

Remembering Feel free to blub as much as you like, if you can't when you're pg, when can you? Glad you feel better after talking to DH though.

Muddy nice to have an EDD buddy! Hope you're feeling well. Any movements yet? I keep thinking I've felt something, and then not being sure.

Sorry for those fighting noro virus, hope it clears up soon.

RugBugs Tue 12-Feb-13 11:12:29

Sorry to hear so many are having a tough time of it at the moment sad

Hope your new medication works when you get it waves

Haha I'm kind of with you Dave I need to reign myself in! I have yet to buy a sling though, I had a look at the Liverpool/Wirral library the other weekend so know I want a wrap/ring style one but there's so many!

DaveMccave Tue 12-Feb-13 11:21:52

It is confusing rugs. Ive had a glance at sling forums and they are crazy ladies that speak a whole different language! I've been advised to get a stretchy wrap, I got a bargain second hand moby, and then found Victoria sling lady who is well recommended and does the same type as moby for half the price so bought another so can have one for wash/dp can wear one at the same time. The ring things baffle me, there are so many! I fancy a buckle one, so think connecta. Do you know where the liverpool sling meets are? Did you see them at the baby show? I'm probably moving to liverpool now so think it will be better to go there than the one in Wallasey. Think I might stick with the stretchy ones I've got and order another w hen babies here? I find most so girly printed, so need something neutral that dp can wear. Hmmm

RugBugs Tue 12-Feb-13 12:04:34

Yes, they were at the baby show, they had mums demonstrating about 10 different ones on their stall and a seminar going into them in more depth. The Liverpool website is www.liverpoolslinglibrary.co.uk/ there seem to be a lot of meets but one2one consultation available too.

We had a baby bjorn for DD but it was such a faff to adjust between each of us wearing it, DP is a good foot taller than me so we ended up him wearing it out a lot and me carrying DD which won't really be an option this time, I want both hands free!

I think fabric choice will determine which brand we get, agree there are a lot of pretty fabrics and lots of rainbow stripes that poor DP was a little bit hmm about but there are one or two that are in plain navy/khaki.

LexiLoganberryBump Tue 12-Feb-13 12:07:18

I would like a sling, started to have a look at some but there are so many to choose between I haven't got a clue where to start, I like the ones which wrap around you and have seen pics of baby in different positions in those but think I'd be worried about doing it up properly as they only seem to tie in a knot at the back, not sure how secure it would be. I never had one with DD.

I like the cosatto giggle treet but DH isn't to keen, we don't have any shops really close that sells prams, don't really want to buy online without having had a try first.

DaveMccave Tue 12-Feb-13 12:18:03

I had a baby bjorn too, they are known as 'crotch danglers' by experiences baby wearers. If you read up on it, they are actually very ba for babies and adults spines! It's quite shocking really. They are very overpriced too.

Lexi, I'm told a stretch wrap (3 well known brands are moby, kari me, and Victoria sling lady) are perfect for newborn, there are different holds and good for breastfeeding in. But most people who babywear a lot instead of using a pram branch out into the other fancier types fairly soon. I was advices a basic stretch wrap, a ring or pouch sling and a buckle sling. Will wait till baby is here and go to a meet I think. Have a look on youtube at moby holds to get an idea... Dp nailed the tie first time but I failed miserably!

LexiLoganberryBump Tue 12-Feb-13 12:28:10

Thanks Dave I'll have a look, just popped over to the mamas and papas site and there flex wrap looks nice and it looks simple to use. Does anyone have this one?

LexiLoganberryBump Tue 12-Feb-13 13:03:18

Dave The moby wrap looks fantastic and after watching a few of the you tube videos actually looks alot easier to put on than I'd imagined, I had thought that the ones with meters of fabric looked compicated but this one looks great, thanks for the recommendation smile

I feel stupidly excited about buying one now. I haven't wanted to buy anything till I have my scan, well I brought some bibs, only £3, but keep looking at clothes/babygrows with DH.

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 12-Feb-13 13:03:57

naturalmamas is a very 'woo' site, but very helpful/useful for info about all the billions of different slings & you should find at least one local(ish) meet!

DH is happy to use our babybjorn, but I need something more supportive of the upperback so I'll be going on a quest for a decent one soon.

thanks jolly, what shocking news about your friend!
Very sorry about the job news too.


With regards to slings there are lots of sling libraries all over the country so you can get another mama to show you how it works and then rent it for a fortnight before parting with your cash. I'm on my phone but will try to find the link later.

Stopsittingonyoursister Tue 12-Feb-13 13:45:36

Hi All

Pancakes part I done for breakfast with maple syrup. Pancakes part II with chocolate spread for a treat after tea tonight. Pancakes part III (for me and DH!) with fruit and honey planned for about 10pm tonight at this rate!!

waves glad to hear you are out of hospital and hope you get your medication soon.

jolly what a rotten run of luck. Will you definitely not get any maternity pay at all from the company? Sometimes you can accrue it. If you don't then you can apply for a maternity grant I think it's called? My friend had it when she had her second (she never went back to work after her first). I think it works out the same as the SMP, but you are then entitled to all sorts of extra grants and vouchers and stuff, so it might be worth checking out? When you do find out for definite about your job? Very sorry to hear about your friend as wel, that is awful news.

Mayan hope things are OK with you.

Non-vom vibes being sent to all those suffering with viruses. There is chicken pox going around DS school and DD's playgroup at the moment. DD has been complaining of feeling cold and tired all weekend so I keep checking her for spots but nothing yet. DS had it when he was just 3, and DD was a newborn, and she never got it so hoping it means she has some sort of super immune system. We are going away to Center Parcs this weekend for the start of half term so no doubt we'll get the first spots on Friday.....

mrswajs yay for the improved scan date and best of luck!

remembering glad you are feeling better.

I am going to properly look at slings this time round. I had a baby bjorn with DS but I just could not get it to fit comfortably at all, although DH loved it, especially all the women coming up to him to coo over the baby all the time!! I tried it again with DD but again no good. I have a bit of a dodgy back, so I just assumed that it was the weight of my babies that was the problem but I'm interested to see that might be wrong. I also borrowed a type of peanut shell sling when I had DD, but I found that when she was snuggled right in, it made her absolutely boiling and I still had to have one hand under her to support her because I as convinced she was going to fall out. However, I will need both hands free this time round to deal with DS and DD so a decent sling will be my lifesaver. I will look up the sling libraries recommended.

Whoever it was that had the Ultima system from M&P - that's the pram system I had. I don't remember all 9 functions, but I'm sure one was that you could turn it into a highchair by putting the pushchair 'chair' bit on the carrycot stand - pushing it a bit far I think!!

MrsPennyapple Tue 12-Feb-13 15:42:46

I bought a moby wrap when I had DD. I agree there are so many types and styles, it's hard to know where to start, and there are no sling meets or anything like that near me. I looked at youtube vids on how to tie it, and when wearing it I found that both DD and I were comfortable and supported. Unfortunately, her being born in the height of summer meant that we both just boiled alive, so it didn't get used much. I will try it out again with DC2, and will hopefully get a bit more use as it gets cooler.

FoofFighter Tue 12-Feb-13 17:10:00

Jolly sad what a shitty time you are having, sending you big squishy hugs x

I won't be doing slings as have a back problem and don't think it wise as am often unsteady on my feet from resulting nerve damage, looking forward to having a pram to hold onto!!

No pancakes here, OH bought (himself!!) some ready made ones, he can have those (urgh!) i can't be bothered making some for just me and have no lemons anyway cause I forgot it was this week.

made a pork in cider thing for dinner tonight using half a can of cider (which the alc will evaporate) and am intending on drinking the remaining half over the course of tonight! worked it out to be 1.3 units as they hadnily tell you on the can how many units it is! ridiculously looking forward to this

stacey212528 Tue 12-Feb-13 17:38:40

Hugs and warm thoughts to all those having a rubbishy time! Am currently tucked up in bed feeling very sorry for myself and peanut as I have managed to contract chicken pox sad straight on the phone to the doctor who came out this morning and has put me on daily checks with him and a scan for bump to check his organs sad so now fingers crossed. So worried!

Abilee90 Tue 12-Feb-13 17:38:53

No fun in my house today, my little dd. she still managing smiles which just make me melt. We have spent the day in our pjs and watched disney films.

Take away for dinner for me and dh as i'm shattered and just dont have energy. Havent slept since sun night sad shattered aint the word.

Plus my house smells of sick :/ scrubbed everywhere including floors and dd herself sad


Abilee90 Tue 12-Feb-13 17:40:32

Stacey i had chicken pox when preg with dd dont panic xx

stacey212528 Tue 12-Feb-13 17:44:42

Thanks Abilee, just can't help thinking about the worst especially when you feel so crappy anyway xx

Abilee90 Tue 12-Feb-13 18:27:34

Thats ok hun i was same, all of a panic. Make sure you eat right and chill out and rest. Feel for you sweets.


FoofFighter Tue 12-Feb-13 18:48:15

oh stacey, what a worry sad get well soon and stupid as I know it is, don't worry x sounds like you have a really good GP there who is totally on the ball :D

stacey212528 Tue 12-Feb-13 18:55:09

Thanks ladies. Currently cosied in with crap telly to distract me from the itching! He was brilliant, came up to the house within 15 minutes! Xx

Jolly so sorry to hear you've had such a crappy lot of news. As a taxpayer you should be entitled to 39 weeks of maternity allowance (same as SMP I believe). I hope you get to spend some good times with your friend and that the end isn't too painful thanksthanks
Stacey get well soon, I'm sure the bean will be fine. My mum had TB when she was PG with my eldest DSis an she picked up great immunity. Good you'll get all the medical support scans etc to put your mind at rest thanks
Hope things start looking up for everyone, waves and mayan too!
Have a good evening everyone, I'm trying to decide between chips&dips or Dominos for dinner - I'm dead healthy me!!! I also have a bottle of alcohol free pear cider I'm drooling thinking about. 30 mins to go on the train... sad

JollyRedGiant Tue 12-Feb-13 19:08:22

Thank you lovely people. Don't know if I'll be entitled to anything regarding mat pay as I don't earn that much (second job). It's not the end of the world, just a but shit. I'll get a wee redundancy payment though. But as again not much as I don't earn that much.

Sounds grim, Stacey. Hope you feel better soon.

MrsPennyapple Tue 12-Feb-13 19:10:58

Ooh, pear cider! I would actually kill for some of that right now.

Jollymummy2 Tue 12-Feb-13 19:12:14

Big hugs for all of you that are suffering in one way or another. thanks
I have been suffering with pelvic stretching pains, which I'm not happy about as suffered with SPD with last two pregnancies. Looks like its starting much earlier this time, so am worried it will be crutches at the least this time hmm trying to rest as much as poss so I don't aggravate it, although midwife has warned if it continues I could be in bed rest by the last few months of pregnancy. With 3 DC to cope with that sounds a colourful prospect!!

FoofFighter Tue 12-Feb-13 19:13:59

alco free pear cider???? where???!

Am I the only one who has just realised there are two Jolly's blush

JollyRedGiant Tue 12-Feb-13 19:17:50

Kopparberg do an alcohol free pear cider. I'm about to have one.

Lol, Foof, I noticed :D

2 jollys - could get jolly confusing (sorry!!)

Yes, Koppaberg and Tescos have it on offer for £1 grin

muddybloodypuddles Tue 12-Feb-13 19:46:25

Remembering - lol!! - we shall have to distinguish them some how

Stacey - oh poor you! Can imagine what a worry it is but its good they're keeping a close eye on you and baby

foof - enjoy your cider ;)

stopsitting - you're going to look like a pancake soon! Wasn't thinking about slings until you posted this, now I think back I never really found the baby bjorn that comfortable so might look into a sling, although MrsPennyApple makes a good point about it being hot in August but I suppose it could just be for the first 2 or 3 weeks....

JollyRed sorry you're having a run of bad luck and sounds horrid about your friend sad - I'll pass on the icecream though as it will no doubt give me heartburn as just about everything is at the moment...

Jollymummy - hope it doesn't get that bad, I vaguely remember my friend having it and she would sit there with an icepack between her legs - would that help with the pain??

Not fancying the idea of pear cider - bleugh. had our pancakes, 1 with nutella and one with raspberries and maple syrup - yum yum. Not feeling so sick tonight but did feel knackered around 5pm again.. thinking about moving house too (are we mad?!)

muddybloodypuddles Tue 12-Feb-13 19:59:43

MrsPennyappl - yes have been feeling movements for a little while, just flutters at first but now getting stronger (esp when I've just eaten a load of chocolate), usually when I'm laying in bed though. I used the doppler last night to listen to the heartbeat and the baby obviously didn't like it as it kicked right at it! Made me jump and shed a tear at the same time. Didn't feel anything with DS though until about 21 weeks so I think it really depends what position they're in, mine seems to be right down into the left hand corner most of the time

RugBugs Tue 12-Feb-13 20:01:30

blush I got confused and made pancakes last week.

Sorry to hear you have chicken pox Stacey

Jolly I've been getting some ligament pain too, especially when I shift in bed at night or pick up DD. I was just starting to get beyond discomfort at 36 weeks with DD but then I was hospitalised with pre-eclampsia and labour a week later so it never got any worse thankfully.

FoofFighter Tue 12-Feb-13 20:02:37

muddy that's the position mine is favouring although like last week when it decided to go walkabouts it's worrying me cause I can't find it again, it's hiding at the back somewhere, don't like it! at least last week it was the day i had my scan and it was upside down and back to front lol

not enojying this half pint of cider at all, smelt wonderful but tastes awful sad have had half the glass and about to throw the rest out and make a lovely cup of milky decaff coffee instead!

beckie90 Tue 12-Feb-13 20:09:48

Sorry about your chickenpox stacey

Well babys been moving loads today getting really proper now obviously not full on moves but more than the little tapping/fluttering

Absolutely cannot stop eating cucumber Haha eaten a full huge 1 today, my new craving xx

MrsPennyapple Tue 12-Feb-13 21:39:15

Lovely DP went to the shop for me to get some alcohol free pear cider! But they didn't have any sad so I am drinking lemonade. I may console myself with some ice cream shortly.

RuckAndRoll Tue 12-Feb-13 21:45:56

wowa far too many posts since I last came on here, sounds like there's a lot of tough times going on. Go easy on yourselves.

Well I'm still signed off work for pain issues and the added joy that I keep passing out. Saw the consultant today and all they can tell me about the meds that would work for the pain is 'increased miscarriage risk, potentially small baby, and neonatal withdrawal, but other than that it's fine'.

She's going to do some more digging for me and see me again in 4 weeks. In the mean time, I should be going back to work Thursday but work are being a bit funny about it. So tomorrows job is to find out where I stand legally with this and work.

On the plus side, baby is apparently nice and happy. They can throw whatever they want at me as long as the baby is ok.

Stopsittingonyoursister Tue 12-Feb-13 23:05:52

Pancake marathon complete! Not making another one until next Pancake Day at least!

Have been sewing name tags on to DDs's playgroup outfits today. She's gone up to size 3 -4 clothes so everything needs renaming - socks, pants, trousers, coat, etc. She only goes two mornings a week, but that's three of everything that needs naming - one per session plus the spares. When it comes round to summer again, and DS needs his new school uniform I am getting iron-on labels!

DH just offered to cook a Valentine's Day meal for me on Thursday evening. This is an historic event. He only cooks very rarely and is a "use every pan and work surface in the kitchen" type cook. However, I may ask him to get the alcohol free cider to go with it - I need something different to drink rather than water or juice at the moment.

muddy are you thinking of moving a long way? We put our last house on the market when I was 35 weeks pg with DD and ended up moving when she was 3.5 months old. Wasn't too bad, but then my parents live in the same village as we do, so just decamped there for 2 weeks before we moved so we could properly pack up and clean the house, and then sort and unpack in the new place before we moved in. The viewings were just a bit of a pain to deal with - DH went to work with a load of ironing in the back of his car more than once!

Ruck that doesn't sound good, I hope you get the meds sorted soon.

jollymummy hope the ligament pain is just everything stretching out. Why do healthcare professionals always prescribe things that are just impossible to comply with in reality?! My friend has three boys under 4, and has been told to try feeding the youngest in a nice quiet room so he isn't distracted by the older two. A quiet room with two kids under the age of 4? It just doesn't happen (unless they are doing something they shouldn't!)

stacey hope all is well. When DS had the pox we found putting the calamine cream in the fridge really helped with the itching. I hope all is well with your scans thanks

Abilee90 Wed 13-Feb-13 08:57:44

Stopsitting - your ironing story made me chuckle.

Stacey - how are you feeling?

My dd still isnt great, not interested in food or anything. Poor little mite.
I have woke up with a really sore and no voice blooming feel like the sick house atm. Gonna paint a cross on my front door. Slept for 10 hours last night as dd didnt even stir. Atleast she wasnt sick last night.


LexiLoganberryBump Wed 13-Feb-13 09:45:29

Abi hope you and your DD feel better soon.

It's my 12 week scan today. Dreamt for the last 2 nights that I forgot my notes and didn't drink any of the water required, I can't drink a glass of water without going to the loo soon after, goodness knows how I'll drink a litre and not pee. DH can't come so having to go on my own.

RugBugs Wed 13-Feb-13 10:22:58

Good luck Lexi, I'm the same as you re peeing but even though I felt quite uncomfortable I didn't need to pee until after the appt time, and of course they were running 20mins late.

RuckAndRoll Wed 13-Feb-13 10:34:26

Enjoy today Lexi. I diligently drank what they said for my scan, got there early so they saw me 30 mins early, the baby wouldn't get into the right position for her so she immediately sent me to pee before she could do anything, so it's not always the end of the world!

About to go into work to meet my boss and discuss coming back - fingers crossed he's good.

Abilee90 Wed 13-Feb-13 10:40:55

Good luck ruck!

Really worried about dd so waiting for doc to ring me bk sad she only 13 months sad xx

stacey212528 Wed 13-Feb-13 10:40:55

Bleurgh pretty much sums up how I'm feeling, doctor was up again and says that everything appears to be "progressing" as normal. So am on the couch watching daytime telly for the first time in ages. A revalation! Thanks everyone for the well wishes and tips. Xxx

beckie90 Wed 13-Feb-13 10:56:48

Good luck lexi I'm like you so I drank less than 500ml 30min before because the previous time I drank about 700ml 1hr before and I was too full so had to empty my bladder.

Bless your poor DD abi hope she's better soon sad its awful. I remember when ds was 14months he had to be kept in hospital with gastro-interitus tonselitus and chest infection. It's the worst thing In the world when your lo is poorly. Sending you thanks xxx

14+4 xx

LexiLoganberryBump Wed 13-Feb-13 12:12:50

Thanks everyone. I really just want it to be time to go now, I'm so nervous about getting bad news and just want to get to the part where they'll hopefully say yes everythings fine and turn the screen to me so I can start to enjoy it.

How much did you have to pay for your scan photo's? when I had DD they were free but this hospital charges. If your paying can you ask for 2 or 3 photos with each one being different or do you end up with 3 photos all the same?


muddybloodypuddles Wed 13-Feb-13 12:15:50

Lexi - good luck for your scan! My scan letter didn't say anything about drinking fluids, seems most people's did and i had an empty (as empty as it can be when you're pg!) bladder and all was fine.. maybe it's a different type of sonography machine!??

Stacey - good to see you're able to get some rest - when DS had chickenpox I used 'poxcilin' on him which was really good to stop the itching (better than calamine), it was about £10 though

Abi - hope your DD is okay x

Ruck - good luck with the boss, its horrible having work issues on top of pg issues

stopsitting - not too far away but my mum lives about 45mins away anyway so just a bit too far. We mainly want to move soon as I will need to apply for DS's school this autumn so would rather move before he starts than have to move his school. Just not relishing sorting out all the stuff we've been hoarding over the years! But am currently in the process of putting a bundle of 17 pairs of shoes on ebay!!! I've got so many high healed fancy shoes that I just don't wear anymore (am a sahm and dont' currently have a job)

Am feeling a bit more energy today so I think it is slowly coming back, took dog for nice long walk and didn't have to have a lie down after - result! grin

muddybloodypuddles Wed 13-Feb-13 12:17:23

Lexi - we had to £8!!! but got about 4 or 5 photos for that (not sure how many there was supposed to be) including a close up of the baby sucking it's thumb - so cute! they were all different.

muddybloodypuddles Wed 13-Feb-13 12:17:40


LexiLoganberryBump Wed 13-Feb-13 12:24:20

muddy I'd be happy to pay £8 for 4 or 5 pics, that sounds great, when I first saw the £8 I thought you were going to say each.

Also it is odd about different instuctions for people but your most likely right that it's the equipment used, wish I had your machine.

RuckAndRoll Wed 13-Feb-13 12:33:46

Lexi our hospital had big signs up saying you must ask for pictures if you want them and a charge would be made. I asked for photos, the sonographer laughed and said I've yet to meet a parent who doesn't want pictures and they only charge if you want a silly number of them.

Word of warning though, if you can, scan them into the computer or make copies ASAP as the images are not designed to last long term

Work meeting didn't go well, they don't want me back yet as I still have phases of going dizzy/blacking out. Problem is the dr says I'm fit to work as long as I'm desk based (which I am 95% of the time anyway). Waiting to see if they'll let me work from home if they don't want me in the office.

abi hope your DD is feeling better soon.

stacey take care of yourself, dvd box sets are great when day time tv gets too much! Along with the brilliant inventions of iplayer, 4od etc.

FoofFighter Wed 13-Feb-13 13:34:15

My scan pics are still going strong after 22 years smile just sitting in the photo album smile Don't ever laminate them though, the heat will destroy them I hear!!

Hope all is well at your scan Lexi smile at ours they printed 4 off and only ask for a donation, so shoved what spare change me and the MIL had in our purses.

muddybloodypuddles Wed 13-Feb-13 15:04:41

foof - for a moment I thought you had a 22 year old! Then brain clicked in that you must be 22 and the scan pics are of you...blush - mind you my sister was 22 when our youngest sister was born (I was 20) so its not entirely barmy...wink

stacey212528 Wed 13-Feb-13 15:28:51

I got 3 scan pics but they were free. They used to ask for a donation but apparently changed policy. But under NO circumstance will they ever tell you the sex! Boo!
RuckandRoll Gave up on Jezza and got out the Greys Anatomy boxset. Hello McDreamy!

Abilee90 Wed 13-Feb-13 15:45:55

Dd went back to docs for the doc to use the medical term, its kicking her bum. Her immune system is low because she is cutting back teeth and it causes a low immune system. I never knew that so, i learned something today. He said i was doing all the right things and to carry on.

Bean hasnt sat still since i sat down but its nice to know he or she is ok.

Lexi my hosp charge 5 pound for 2 pics.

Stacey huge hug for u. I know how u felt i was 26 weeks when i had it tho. If your lucky, baby will immunity to it but its rare.

Thanks for all dd well wishes. Hope everyone is ok smile


FoofFighter Wed 13-Feb-13 16:33:16

Muddy, I have a 21yo and an 18yo grin and I'm a granny!! oh to be 22...

Stacey ours won't reveal either. No idea why as I understand the reasons for it in some inner city areas but we are semi rural and there are only 5 delivery beds so obviously not rushed off their feet, maybe they are just shite at it and got sued a lot...!

I went and got the Bounty mum to be pack today, I filled in a false name and address as they are well known for selling your details on as well as pushing loads of crap on you themselves, and have dubious in hospital practises at a time when you are at their most vulnerable - really recommend searching MN for threads about Bounty before you hand over your details or let them take their awful pictures.

Anyway, the haul (I have no qualms about taking the goodies btw!!) includes, the obligatory wee pot of sudocrem (which is all I wanted really for the changing bag, soooooo handy!), 2 samples of Fairy non bio tablets, one sample of persil non bio liquid, 2 samples of comfort pure, one sample of ovaltine, a persil branded baby bath towel, with the corner hat thing on?, and a FULL SIZED Simple moisturiser smile

FoofFighter Wed 13-Feb-13 16:33:34

oh and lots of advertising guff that went in the bin... grin

LexiLoganberryBump Wed 13-Feb-13 17:30:37

Had my 12 week scan, teabag was very difficult and layed on his side for the whole thing, I was in with her for at least 20 minutes, she did the normal scan then sent me for a wee and a jump around to see if baby would move, had me doing a belly wobble (very unflatering I can tell you) to get baby moving, still wouldn't move, then did the internal scan and still wasn't co-operating. She got a measurement of the head and thats it, couldn't do length or the nt measurement, going in 2 weeks to have the quad blood test instead, was disappointed but at least teabag appears fine, I'm just happy there was a baby in there.

Scan photo also not to great as of back.

She's also put me forward a bit, I assume based on the head measurement. When I went in I was 12+3, came out 13+1, new edd 20th August.

Got 2 pics and they charge £3 a photo.

Abilee90 Wed 13-Feb-13 17:39:26

Lexi glad everything was ok. My baby was a pain in the bum also lol had to have an internal in the end.

Stacey if you live in area that has alot ethnic minorities then they wont tell you as a lot abort if its a girl. My hosp do disclose but u have to beg :/ i'm having private scan on 23rd of feb to find our. But private scans are expensive.

Got 10 days til scan and cant wait to know smile

15+1 smile

FoofFighter Wed 13-Feb-13 18:01:33

Abi, it can't be just that reason though, as I said our area is ruralish, far north of Scotland, very quite, 99.9% white/british and they don't tell.

Lexi, it's disappointing when they won't do as you want isn't it! Didn't think they could determine date from just head measurement, surprised me smile

zippyrainbowbrite Wed 13-Feb-13 18:02:06

Hi all, just checking in and catching up. Hugs to all those having a tough time at the moment, and pleased to hear so many bouncy bean scan stories!

Most exciting thing to report here (tmi alert!) is that the lactulose my dr prescribed is starting to work well on my chronic constipation! I never thought I'd be so happy to have a poo! grin

Stopsitting I would definitely not recommend the iron on labels - I had some for Dss and they all came off in the wash after a few times. I just bought a permanent marker pen and write his name (or initials if that's all that fits) on the washing label. Much easier than sewing in the name tags (which he always used to complain we're itchy anyway!) grin

16 + 1 - can't believe I'm 4 months already!

stacey212528 Wed 13-Feb-13 18:04:59

I'm in a village/town with a population of about 1500 lol. The local hospital is in a "city" not much bigger. But hey it just means a private scan (: I'm too impatient not to know! Lol.
Lexi same thing for me, blood test next week cause Peanut didn't want to play!

Fever is starting to tail off and though I am still itching like hell I don't feel like I want to throw myself out the window anymore. Small things right? Hope everyone is good!


stacey212528 Wed 13-Feb-13 18:06:15

Scotland here too Foof (: xx

FoofFighter Wed 13-Feb-13 18:27:04

whereabouts are you Stacey? (pm if you don't want to put it in public smile ) you have piqued my interest cause I like in a "city" where everyone for miles around has to come to the hospital (DG) technically it's a city cause of the cathedral but it's very very small smile

Zippy congrats on your poo baby grin

stacey212528 Wed 13-Feb-13 18:33:15

Clackmannanshire, the local city is Stirling and only because the Queen chose it over Inverness or somewhere I believe!

FoofFighter Wed 13-Feb-13 19:05:33

I think of all the main towns and cities Stirling is the only one I've not been to as yet smile I'm in Morayshire smile

stacey212528 Wed 13-Feb-13 19:09:19

It's got a fairly decent shopping centre and of course all the historic stuff that I think we kinda overlook as locals. Woops. Aside from that your not missing much.

LexiLoganberryBump Wed 13-Feb-13 19:26:46

foof I don't know whether they can either, but she asked what my dates were when I went in and when I was sat outside the room waiting for my notes my dates had been changed, the only measurement she did was the head measurement so I'm assuming it was that as couldn't see it being anything else, but like I say I don't know for sure.

zippyrainbowbrite Wed 13-Feb-13 19:35:27

Thanks Foof! grin

Abilee90 Wed 13-Feb-13 20:19:54

You guys sound like your kept in the dark a lot. My hosp maternity unit for scans pretty good. They show u all of the scan and can choose pics.

Thought dd was on the mend but boy was i wrong just was sick everywhere including me and dh sad want her better.


Yvonney Wed 13-Feb-13 20:21:39

Stacey - I made your cheese toastie tonight and it was fab! Hope the chicken pox clear up soon smile
Lexi - glad ur scan was ok even if couldn't get all measurements. It's my scan tomorrow, I feel soo nervous about it, I just hope there is definately a baby in there lol!


stacey212528 Wed 13-Feb-13 20:25:21

Yvonney totally worth the calories right? Good luck with your scan!

JollyRedGiant Wed 13-Feb-13 20:32:13

Put car in a ditch on way home tonight. Up close and personal with some barbed wire. On Thursday we had 2 cars now we have none. Hope my one is repairable though!
I think I'm going to bubble wrap myself and refuse all phone calls/emails for the next week to avoid any more bad news!

Yvonney Wed 13-Feb-13 20:40:27

Jollyred - omg are you okay? You must of got a fright, take care x

FoofFighter Wed 13-Feb-13 20:50:46

scary biscuits JollyRG sad very glad you're ok x

nausea is getting worse again, am going to have to start having my main meal at lunchtime I think. Managed a cheese sandwich and now having my free Ovaltine, was surprised to see it contains 100% rda of folic acid in one cup, wish had known that at 6 weeks!! a lot easier to have a drink than force a bowl of cereal in that you don't really want.

JollyRedGiant Wed 13-Feb-13 21:02:37

Thank you again, lovely ladies. I know I only come on here to bitch but it really does help me. Once I have less going on I shall be more attentive smile

beckie90 Wed 13-Feb-13 21:10:00

stacey I also made your toasty for my lunch yumm smile

Aww jolly hope your ok

Good luck for tomorow yvonney

abi sorry to hear dd is not better sad and less than 10 days to go now xx


LexiLoganberryBump Wed 13-Feb-13 21:13:10

jolly hope your ok

yvonney that's how I was, desperate to see teabag in there. We're no longer due date partners now they've moved my dates.

LexiLoganberryBump Wed 13-Feb-13 21:13:56

And meant to say yvonney good luck for your scan tomorrow.

Abilee90 Wed 13-Feb-13 21:57:18

Thanks becki, shes not a well baby at all. This is torture sad
I cant wait to find out! Are you gonna find out? smile


Stopsittingonyoursister Wed 13-Feb-13 22:28:19

Gosh JollyRed hope you are OK and no aches and pains tomorrow.

Abilee hope your DD gets better soon, poor thing.

Lexi glad your scan was OK even if bean wasn't co-operative. Good luck with your scan tomorrow yvonney.

Sorry to hear about the sickness foof, and good news on the Ovaltine!

Went on DS' school trip today. First half was fine, as indoors, but second part after lunch was just terrible. Trying to do a walking tour, spotting things on a list, in the sub-zero temperatures with sleet and snow getting everywhere. We had three kids crying with the cold by the time the teachers decided we should head back to the bus sad. Straight home in a warm bath and a hot chocolate for DS this afternoon!

Managed to scare myself earlier today as well. I was used to feeling little fluttery movements from DC3 but got around to thinking this afternoon that I hadn't felt anything like that for a couple of days. Started panicking that that was not a good sign. Then, as soon as I ate my dinner and actually sat down, started noticing just a few movements. Just wish this DC would move a bit more, just to reassure me, although I guess at 15 weeks I can't expect to feel too much.

Also started to get a bit of heartburn now after eating, particularly anything that is acidic tasting, like berries, blackcurrant juice. granny smith apples etc. I really don't want to be back of Gaviscon already, I detest the stuff. Does anyone have any alternatives that I could try please?

beckie90 Wed 13-Feb-13 22:44:51

I think so but am scared haha, having convinced myself its a girl think I'm going to be in for such a shock when they say boy lol. It can't come quick enough because its driving me mad thinking what is it. But then watching OBEM tonight, when that girl didnt know the sex Aww it was lovely I cried blush xx

Abilee90 Wed 13-Feb-13 22:58:35

Stopsitting - thank u, fingers crossed shes ok tomorrow. Want my happy smiley baby back now.

Beckie - convinced its a boy and panicing that if they say girl, dh will be upset. I dont mind who so ever what i have.

Think i have flu sad or some sort of bug. Seem to be one illness after the other atm sad


RugBugs Thu 14-Feb-13 09:23:11

Good luck to Yvonney for your scan today! I remember there is at least one other scan today? MrsWaj maybe?

Hope you've had a restful night with your DD Abi?

Also really struggling to eat a meal in the evening Foof and anything I do eat at 6pm is still repeating on me when I go to bed at 10. Sucks that it's happening already as I remember it's only going to get worse!

parttimer79 Thu 14-Feb-13 10:01:36

phew I've not been on here for ages!

Hope you are feeling better soon ruck and you abi

Everyone at work is ill, hoping my flu jab is doing it's job.

beckie how is my due date buddy?

I've hit the 2nd trimester bounce now (although it may be that my workload has dropped to a manageable level) so am feeling much less tired and weepy. Finally get to enjoy being pregnant at least for a while.
I've got my first aquanatal tonight which is making me strangely nervous. I feel like I'm part of a club I never expected to join and shouldn't really be a member of!

Good luck all today's scanees!


MrsWajs Thu 14-Feb-13 10:01:53

Good luck for scan today yvonney, Rugbugs I had my scan on Tuesday as I got a cancellation appointment smile All fine but baby too small for NT measurement so I get to go back for another scan next Tuesday too - yay!

JollyRed Hope you are ok! You don't seem to be having much luck at all just now.

Foof I also live in a "city" that's not really a city! And in scotland too.

Abilee Hope your DD starts to feel better soon.

My DD is in the bad books today, she's been having a run of bad nights and early wakings which is unusual for her but this morning took the biscuit. She woke at 3.30am and refused to go back down, despite DPs best efforts. I ended up going into her at 4am after it was clear she wouldn't go back to sleep. I took her into DSS's bed (he only stays at wekends) and she fell straight back to sleep...until 05.15! Then asleep again from 05.30 until 7am. YAWN!! I can't keep doing this, I am working today from 1-9 and will be exhausted by the time I finish sad

ladies i have been totally AWOL - just going to read back and catch up. Me and DS have both had norovirus and it got so bad for both of us that we needed pumped full of zofran to stop us vomiting and liquid paracetamol to bring down scary high temps. Spent all last night having to sponge a v cross DS down to try keeping his temp down and force feeding him tea spoons of water. Horrible! He seems a lot better this morning, unfortunately i still feel like crap! Just typical, finally getting severe pregnancy-related nausea under control with meds and then get a sever vomiting bug! Feel like I have been run over by a truck, house is a state and i have no energy whatsoever to do anything about it and i need to sleep for 12 hours straight so Valentines Day is postponed til tomorrow lol. On plus side.. I'm 15 weeks tomorrow tho!!

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 14-Feb-13 10:37:18

JollyRed, hope you're not too shaken & car is repaired asap.

Snowshine, sorry you're all so ill atm, hope you're over it all soon.

Good luck yvonney!

Stopsitting, no advice on the hearburn, but I've not felt anything for a few days here (think it's moved back, can still hear it on the doppler).

Hope everyone feels better soon.
I've got really sore gums atm (had really bad bleeding gums when pg with DS) and can't face eating...gah!


Abilee90 Thu 14-Feb-13 10:43:28

Thanks for dd well wishes, she seems alot better but now dh has it sad blooming sick house

Littlemiss my dd and my dh both have it, i'm praying i dont get it. Already a very bad cold sad

On count down til my sexing scan i cant wait now smile 9 days beckie smile
Beckie have u told parents yet?

15 +2 smile

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FoofFighter Thu 14-Feb-13 12:25:52

ooh have we had a hairy handed bridge dweller in or something??

Guacamole is all I can think about today <licks goop off fingers>

RugBugs Thu 14-Feb-13 12:33:17

Arghhh yeah I remember now MrsWajs!

Sorry to hear more of us are sick sad

I really need to stop buying newborn boys clothes, at least until we have confirmed what we are actually getting (at least I am confining myself to next sale stock).

Hello everyone, just a quick update....I have been out of hospital a couple of days, but ongoing issues with medication, so still being sick sad

Quite fed up of it all, and increasingly worried about the amount of work piling up in my absence from the office, especially as I was meant to be getting ahead of all my work this year in advance of maternity leave!

On a more positive note, I found a very much reduced hot milk bra on amazon and it arrived. It is SOOOO comfortable and I shall be buying a couple more when I get paid smile

Woodifer Thu 14-Feb-13 14:53:35

Hello all

I have just read the last few pages (not all the freds), but thought I would check in.

I have a DD (15 months) and am due DC2 on the 17th Aug (so currently 13+5)

Go do some more reading now smile

FoofFighter Thu 14-Feb-13 15:08:32

hello woodifer smile welcome aboard! How have you been keeping?

RuckAndRoll Thu 14-Feb-13 17:16:23

welcome woodifer

waves Don't worry about work, it's really not important at the moment. You, your DC and the little baby are most important. I do know how you feel though, I've caused a bit of chaos at work as I'm not allowed to travel (most of my job atm) so other people are covering for me. I said I was feeling guilty about it and got told off as work just isn't important if you're not well.

Do you have a link for that hot milk bra?

rug stop shopping!!

I'm off to start writing a list of all the things we realistically need to buy for baby to freak out DH when he gets in from work. So far we have a bath, 3 babygrows, and whatever MIL has bough us (a lot apparently, but won't tell us what, how useful).

stacey212528 Thu 14-Feb-13 17:32:50

Ahhh this week is just not getting any better for me! Just had some random woman at my door ranting and raving threatening to phone the police on that "devil dog" of mine. Supposedly he attacked her dog first thing this morning and has left the poor thing "terrified and injured" and she will be expecting me to cover the vet costs. This will be the same dog who didn't get walked until about an hour ago because I'm so bloody unwell. Aside from the fact that he is a gentle giant (Bernese) and wouldn't have attacked her ratty dog in the first place! Have no idea who's dog attacked hers but it certainly wasn't mine! Sorry about the rant sad one of those weeks! x

Jollymummy2 Thu 14-Feb-13 17:40:53

thanks To all of you that are suffering.

I'm currently crashed out in the sofa feeling yucky, with the shakes!
My own fault though as have been rushing about most of the day so missed lunch (which is very unlike me) then ate half a box of chocs with DH whilst waiting to pick DD up from school! So feeling suck, hungry and generally yuck.

On the plus side DH is cooking me a special valentines meal, consisting mainly of potatoes and cheese, with some salad for good measure. Bless him he is so good with my pregnancy weirdness, even after going through it all twice already.


Chuckaluck Thu 14-Feb-13 17:53:45

Big hugs to all suffering with sickness, whether it be pregnancy related or otherwise.

I had my 16 week midwife appt today. I have a new midwife who is lovely and explained the whole consultant thing a bit better. Feel like a bit of a failure for having to be referred to the consultant for my BMI but she explained it all and made me feel a bit better. I was also pleased as she explained that I might be able to use the birthing pool, which originally was a complete no no. Anyone else been referred to the consultant? On the plus side, I do get an extra scan in third trimester!

Heard baby's heartbeat which was lovely and definitely starting to feel baby kick. DH came to appt and seeing his face when we heard heartbeat was lovely.

Romance is not dead in our house - my DH told me that he had ordered some flowers but they were coming tomorrow as it was cheaper!! Might go get some fish and chips, can't be bothered to cook!!!!


Yvonney Thu 14-Feb-13 18:21:20

Hi, not caught up with all todays posts but just wanted to say my scan went well! There was definately a baby in there jumping around! Got all measurements taken. Due date put back 2 days so now 28th Aug, although I was a week early with my DS. Good news is cos I have Crohn's disease I'm getting a 20 week scan, then another at 28 weeks, 32 & 36 weeks smile Our DS was over the moon when we told him x

RugBugs Thu 14-Feb-13 19:05:36

Hurray Yvonney!

I'm wearing a jersey dress today and didn't think I was showing but I got such an evil look from a woman in m&s this afternoon taking DPs corona to the checkout!

LexiLoganberryBump Thu 14-Feb-13 20:17:24

chuchaluck I've been referred to a consultant too because of my bmi, I was a wreck before my booking in appointment with the midwife but she really put my mind at rest.
Have you had your consultant appointment yet? I was told they'd try to have it at the same time as my scan but haven't heard anything and scan was yesterday, will mention to midwife at 16 week check.

Yvonney Congratulations on your scansmile

Abilee90 Thu 14-Feb-13 20:22:04

Chuck - i also have a consultant, one for my bmi which is all due to not losing baby weight. I have another for my heart condition and then another for my knee all in one pregnancy. But glad to know that you can still have a water birth.

Dd is on the road to being better smile no sick. Dh on other hand sad
My chest feels like i have an elephant sitting ontop of me on fire sad

Just had 3 dippey eggs with soliders smile just what bean wanted.


Woodifer Thu 14-Feb-13 20:26:06

Ooh ta for the welcomes foof and ruck blimey this thread moves fast! I've not been too sick, just a bit nauseous and combatting it by eating inordinate amounts of junk! Non-stop. Starting to feel a bit more human - but still pretty knackered!

OxfordToLondoner Thu 14-Feb-13 20:36:57

Am rather sick of all the red roses pics on Facebook. For the first time we decided to totally ignore V-Day. Just about to go to bed (830!) with DS as dH is away for the night. Perfectly happy!

Chuckaluck Thu 14-Feb-13 20:57:04

Hi Lexi and Abi, first midwife had mentioned it at booking in and said I might get an appt come through or might not. Midwife today was very definate that I should have it and called up and made an appt whilst I was sat there so I have an appt on 21 March. Midwife did say it wasn't anything to worry about and I would probably think why did they bother so we will see!!

Abilee90 Fri 15-Feb-13 05:39:42

I give up! Dd is being sick again 4 times since 4am. I'm shattered! Not slept, elephant on my chest! Crying cause i cant take it away. All i wanna do is take it away! Its like ding ding round 2. I cant keep up anymore! I feel terrible and what worse is i'm getting no help.

Sorry ladies dont mean to rant, just cant suffer in online silence when i am indoors sad

Yvonney Fri 15-Feb-13 06:16:38

Oh Abilee sorry your dd still not well sad rant away, you must be shattered. Do you have any family nearby that could give you a hand to take all the pressure of you a bit? Sending hugs, take care xxx brew thanks

Welcome Woodifer

chuck I'm also under consultant due to age, 1st DC and Mum had hypertension in her late 50s. Annoyed the crap out of me and my consultants appt was a waste of time (had it at 13 weeks) Despite consistent BP of 110/60 I'm "at risk of high BP and Pre-eclampsia" so on Asprin sad
Also told I "can't" go beyond 40+0 as at the ripe old age of 40+3months my placenta will magically cease working on exactly that day... angry jobsworth
Hope your consultants appts all go bette thanksthanks

PS Hope all you poorly mums and mums with poorly DCs feel better soon

Abilee90 Fri 15-Feb-13 09:17:34

Yvonney - thank you, it just got ontop of this morning. My real mum is in spain (lives their 8 months of year) adopted mum gas m.e so i cant risk her getting it and mil has a disabled husband who cant get this as it will make his eplipsey worse, she gas been helping us out picking up stuff from shop and dropping it round. And dh isnt, so this mummy has to carry on


stacey212528 Fri 15-Feb-13 09:31:35

Abilee hope things get better soon!

Have ny scan this afternoon to check peanuts organs and stuff so fingers crossed. Though I'm not best pleased about venturing out looking like I am. Spots everywhere. Scarf wrapped round the face it is don't want to scare any children! Hope everyone is keeping well/better than they were. Xx

LexiLoganberryBump Fri 15-Feb-13 11:11:40

I've brought a pram!!!!

Decided to buy a very similar one to the one I had with DD. I've brought a second hand mamas and papas ultima mpx chassis (9 in 1) although we haven't brought the surefix stand as we're not sure we would really use it, we'll get it later if we think it's nessersary. Last time we had the xcel chassis because I walked into town and brought alot of fruit veg from the local market and needed the strong basket, this time we don't need the strong basket so went for manouvreability the mpx chassis offers instead. We've just unpacked it and it's in amazing condition. I'm so happy with it, complete bargain, no way we could afford the £900 price tag of a new one.

abi sorry your DD and DH still aren't well.

Welcome to woodifer and thanks to everyone who is poorly or dealing with poorly DCs.

Exciting news on the pram lexi smile

I'm still vomiting and consequently feeling utterly fed up. Medication should be arriving tomorrow, so until then I am lying down as much as possible. DCs are out with DDs godmother today which is nice, particularly as it is a beautifully sunny day so they are getting to make the most of it (half term here this week)

I have an official appointment with my consultant on Thursday - it is the 4th reschedule as I have been in hospital so missing all the others. However, I have actually been seeing a consultant every day that I have been in, so not convinced there will be anything new to discuss! I don't have any risk factors that would automatically put me into high risk, but over here everyone gets a consultant appointment anyway.

I'm looking forward to 14 March when I have the 20 week scan. Less than 4 weeks to wait, and hopefully the HG will have eased by then

16 + 3

FoofFighter Fri 15-Feb-13 13:05:25

Afternoon all,

Was a bit concerned that I hadn't felt baby moving about but I reckon it is hiding with it's limbs towards my back, why is there always something to worry about grrrr?? Walking back from work felt an awful sensation in my belly, think it upended itself and was doing cartwheels, made me feel sick!

Going for a lie down in a bit as pretty whacked after being out late last night (till 10pm!!)

stacey212528 Fri 15-Feb-13 13:12:35

Foof I'm the same, always worrying. I haven't felt any movement at all yet /: just got to trust everything is ok. Hope you feel better.

Abilee90 Fri 15-Feb-13 14:45:35

Hey ladies, dd is bit better yay smile she is interested in food finally.
And more interested in playing too. Dh is on the mend also. I have disinfected my lounge and kitchen so even tho i felt like poo, i feel bit better now as i just got on with things.

Lexi - i have brought a pram yet but need a double so not alot of choice and i need one that will fit my dd who will be 20 months when baby here.

Foof - i went out last sunday for lunch with friends and by 4pm i was shattered lol.

Stacey - i looked like a pock a dot person when i had chicken pox lol good luck with scan smile cant wait to hear about it.

15 weeks 3 days smile

Abilee90 Fri 15-Feb-13 15:01:21

Also stacey this is your first bubba, you prob wont feel bubba move for a few more weeks. I was 17 weeks when i felt dd. you are more aware with your second as you know what your waiting to feel.


FoofFighter Fri 15-Feb-13 15:40:46

What abi says ^ this is my third DC (5th pg though) so my muscles are shot lol

RuckAndRoll Fri 15-Feb-13 15:55:56

abi glad your DD is on the mend, wanting to play is a good sign :-)

Well I've just agreed a return to work plan with HR. I was starting to go stir crazy stuck in the house. Start back Monday but with an assigned person to keep an eye on me incase I collapse/fall down the stairs (it's a fairly small office with lots of quiet places I could be and no one would know).

Lexi that's so organised. We can't seem to find anywhere that stocks the pram we want to see, loads online but nowhere has it in store. Everywhere has the bugaboo, icandys, stokkes, mclarens, but nothing else!

waves fingers crossed you feel better soon and the meds work wonders for you.

Abilee90 Fri 15-Feb-13 15:59:24

Ruck have you searched the buggy make and area you live for stockists? There a shop near me that stock icandy and bugaboo. Off to have a look next week when everyone is better. I also have a huge kiddicare and mothercare near me so hopefully will find one smile


Stopsittingonyoursister Fri 15-Feb-13 16:06:02

Hi Ladies

Lexi how exciting on the pram! I have that model too, with MPX chassis which is fab. What colour is it (obviosuly that's the most important thing, LOL!). We only really used the surefix stand as a base instead of a moses basket. I had a swinging crib upstairs next to the bed, until they stopped feeding at night and then they were in their own rooms, but I found the stand downstairs meant I could put the DC down for a nap and then if they were still asleep and I needed to go out, I could just unclip the pram base, stick it on the wheels, and with a bit of luck they would stay asleep. Not so important with DC1 because if he was asleep I just waited until he woke up, but with DC2 when I was up and down to playgroup to pick DS up, it was a god send.

Well, after worrying that I wasn't feeling any movements, yesterday was a complete circus! We had cartwheels, kicks from all directions, and all sorts! Think it was because I sat down a bit more yesterday, so I was more aware when there was movements iyswim. I also agree with you, foof that sometimes, I think the baby is just pointing towards my spine, so I don't feel anything. Doesn't stop the worry though, does it?! stacey if this is your first, I didn't feel DS move until after 20 weeks, only when he properly started booting me in the kidneys (nice), so like abi says, try not to worry.

Welcome woodifer hope you are feeling ok.

Good luck to all ladies having scans today. Has everyone had one now, or anyone still waiting?

abilee glad your DD is feeling a bit better, hope it lasts xx

waves hope you start feeling better soon, it seems to have taken ages for your meds to arrive. We have the same 20 week scan date. Hope things are at least bearable at home thanks.

We are off to center parcs tonight, just waiting for DH to come home. Kids are running round like wild things, I have confined them to one room so that they rest of the house can stay tidy! Been packing all day, it takes so long with DD "helping". Really looking forward to it, as are DCs. According to DS' teacher, he hasn't been able to say anything all day that wasn't somehow connected with him going to CP tonight, I bet she was glad to see the back of him grin!

LexiLoganberryBump Fri 15-Feb-13 16:38:27

It's not that I'm organised really, I liked 2 prams and DH didn't like one of them and I found it on ebay so couldn't risk it selling, it was removed from the aution a couple of weeks ago and I thought it was sold then it became available again so brought it as soon as we knew teabag was ok.

sitting it's the cityscape fabric, what fabric is yours?
Also enjoy centre parcs.

DaveMccave Fri 15-Feb-13 17:04:34

sitting I am so jealous. Have a great time!

I've got a child free weekend and not in work tomorrow for a change. We thought about going and staying in a b&b or something for a night but too indecisive. So we're going to go to Cheshire oaks in about an hour for food, to look and see if they have any maternity clothes in h&m and mamas and papas, (I believe thy have those super cute but ludicrously expensive blankets in there half price so I may try and sneak one of them. 25 quid is still a bit much for a blanket though isn't it?) and then the cinema. Think we're going to go to the science and industry museum in manc tomorrow. And i'll take dd the circus on sunday. What's everyone else up to this weekend?

Abilee90 Fri 15-Feb-13 18:06:08

Dave thats a crazy price for a blanket. Sadly all spare money is going into buying house and buggy, but i have a lovely adopted mum that loves to knit blankeys. My dd comfortors is one of nannys knitted blankeys. She cant sleep without it.


FoofFighter Fri 15-Feb-13 18:42:16

Those blankets are lovely though, I have a few made with love and gingerbread ones on watch on Ebay blush

Plans for the weekend include working both days but tomorrow am meeting my girliefriends for a Greek meal smile thankfully it's a lunch so the nausea won't have hit!

Mrsd77 Fri 15-Feb-13 19:27:27

Hello all! Little update here. Just had 16 wk appointment and heard a strong heartbeat. Am chuffed to bits!! Been feeling a few movements for a couple of weeks and midwife said some of the noises meant baby was kicking quite hard!! Fortnight since nt and still not had anything through the post so she rang through. Low risk. Yeah!

Happy weekend everyone!

muddybloodypuddles Fri 15-Feb-13 19:42:48

foof - wow that's quite a gap - i am one of 5 girls who are now 38, 36, 29, 19 & 16 - my mum was a grandma at 36 - and 2 of my nieces are older than my youngest sister! grin - thanks for the Bounty tip as well - will fill out my false name! shock

Stacey - how did the scan go? all okay I hope - i didn't feel movements with my first until 21 weeks

Dave - ooh a child free weekend how lovely! And yes £25 is a lot for a blanket but, if its in the sale and you really want it.... grin

Lexi - well done with the pram that's the main big thing out of the way!

Abi - hope everyone is feeling better soon so you can start being looked after for a change!! Good to hear your dd is better too

Stopsitting - my movements keep coming and going but def feel more when laying / sitting still (as well as after eating chocolate!)

Still getting knackered quite easily, took DS to a playdate this afternoon and after telling him off because I saw him push and hit this other kid when they were fighting over a toy, it wasn't until we were in the car and DS said his leg hurt where this boy apparently bit him. So I checked his leg when we got home and he had been bitten it had drawn blood!(through his trousers) So just had an awkward text conversation with his mum, wasn't sure whether to tell her but thought I would want someone to tell me... she texted me back to say her son admitted it as soon as she asked him so he's been dealt with.. hate dealing with things like that (I'm not v good with confrontation).
Just had a chinese and now vegging on the sofa smile

Abilee90 Fri 15-Feb-13 19:59:40

Muddy - you must teach me how you can remember everyones name and conversation. I also have ordered chinese and will hopefully be munching on it soon. I think you have to bite the bullet and just face the problem head on. And christ how hard did he bite him. I had a problem with my adopted mums grandson. He was purposely hurting my dd (13 months old) and had to say as she cant say herself. Awkward lol.

Stacey - how did scan go?

I thought i would give you ladies a laugh, i sneezed and look at dh and said i had wet myself :/ embarrassing but it was a false alarm. Now my dh fakes sneezes and says he has wet himself arghh lol. Everyone seems to be alot better yay smile


FoofFighter Fri 15-Feb-13 20:54:49

If it makes you feel better Abi, at the weekend when I was very forcefully vomiting, leaning over the loo bowl, I piddled myself blush

Re remembering peoples names, I don't tend to really, sometimes if I cba I open another window and scroll through and type the message in the other window grin

FoofFighter Fri 15-Feb-13 21:03:10

Just been looking for a decent footmuff, OMFG never mind those M&P blankets, just look at the price of this one..! And that is reduced! shock


RugBugs Fri 15-Feb-13 21:15:42

Really glad your family is getting better Abi

I bought my new niece a lovely blanket from zara. Was more than I would spend on ourselves but is cotton and a cot sized one though. Zara have some gorgeous silky almost faux fur like blankets that stay really soft and snuggly when washed (we borrowed one for DD and I was quite sad to give it back) I really want one of our own this time.
The mamas & papas blankets are buy one get one half price in shops, I never get past the clothes in the outlet!

It's DPs mothers birthday tomorrow so we are off round to theirs. I need to find some clothes I don't look huge in. Feeling very conscious that I can't suck it all in now.

RugBugs Fri 15-Feb-13 21:19:27

Wow! But it is sheepskin! Think the sheepskin liner for a phil & teds is about £70!

We got a grey one from John Lewis for £18, absolute pain in bloody arse it is. Zip got stuck on the label every time no matter how close I trimmed it angry

Abilee90 Fri 15-Feb-13 21:50:39

Dame foof thats expensive. Also that did make ms feel better but aww poor you.

Chinese was crap sad so not a happy bunny. Was really hungry aswell.


Abilee90 Fri 15-Feb-13 21:51:05

And thank u rugs smile

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 15-Feb-13 21:52:00

Welcome Wood!!

I didn't want a footmuff for (Winter born) DS, MIL insisted we get one (bought it for us), it lasted a month on the buggy before I ripped it out, uselss thing, like you rugs it kept getting caught in zip & it just got DS hot & agitated...although we're not in Scotland, I know you people actually have Winter weather up there!

The buggy I want has,according to the website, one shop stocking it in the UK, in Cumbria. I've suggested a road trip, but DH is happy to buy it online & pray it fits in boot.

MrsD, hurrah for heartbeat & low risk!

Stacey, how did the scan go?

Abi, glad things are getting better for you, very jealous of all you ladies having Chinese, my stomach has gone off food...my big fat mouth however!

Dave, have a wonderful childfree weekend! Sounds like you've got loads planned!

If all the scans are out of the way I think it's safe to say we'll not have any Aug Twins+?
I was secretly hoping for twins, so at least we didn't have to plan DC3! grin

LouiseD29 Fri 15-Feb-13 22:54:20

How is everyone doing? Anyone got a visible bump yet? smile

Abilee90 Sat 16-Feb-13 00:37:27

Think i am coming down with bug sad feeling reallg sick can feel it bubbling. Hoping not as i will be hospitalized as i'm high risk sad


stacey212528 Sat 16-Feb-13 01:07:48

Hey ladies. Scan was great, peanut is measuring slightly smaller than he/she could be but is still within average (: so am a lot more settled now that I know. Also midwife said that it's not policy to change the due date they give you. So even if they know they've got it wrong they won't change your notes. Am I the only one that finds that a bit odd? Glad everyone is feeling better Abilee hope it passes quickly!

duende Sat 16-Feb-13 08:07:51

Hi, this thread moves quickly!
Congratulations on all old scans, heartbeats, kicks and purchases smile
I definitely have a visible bump, in maternity clothes most of the time, but at least it definitely looks like a pregnant bump, not "I had too many burgers" bump.

I can't feel the baby move yet, even though its my second and I'm 16 weeks.
I can hear the heartbeat with the Doppler though so not worrying.

RugBugs Sat 16-Feb-13 09:39:00


Hope you managed to keep the vom at bay Abi

I guess it only makes a difference if you have to be induced Stacey, being put forward greatly benefits me if I am induced as DP is a teacher and we were very close to the beginning of September.

I can't work my bump out! It's quite high.

Abilee90 Sat 16-Feb-13 09:51:49

Rugs i did keep it at bay and i dont know how lol dont feel sick this morning. Maybe it was bean being naughty lol or the fact i kept saying i will not be sick, i will not be sick lol.

Poor dh has a dodgey bum so going to get him so imodium.
Dd is back to her usual self now smile

Stacey glad your scan went well. I was measuring big but they only put me forward 3 days. Second babys are meant to be bigger. My dd was only 7lb 8oz and i went 16 days over due sad


RugBugs Sat 16-Feb-13 10:26:28

Nooooo Abi I was hoping for another small baby!
DD was 7lb1 (at 37wks) and stayed small for the first year. Her genes caught up with her then though, she's very tall and often mistaken for being a year older.

This one was measuring 66mm at 12+6, no idea how average that is.

FoofFighter Sat 16-Feb-13 10:27:52

gary what buggy have you got your eye on then? [nosey]<pramaholic and proud>

Abi, nothing worse than a disappointing chinese takeaway!!

Stacey, probably because a few days here and there makes no difference anyway and baby will turn up when it feels like it lol

Louise - yes sometimes, over the course of the day it pops out, last few days it's been hiding though and worrying me although am trying to be rational and say it's cause it's hiding at the back somewhere and I just can't feel it. I think when you've already lost one, any little thing sends your mind into overdrive sad don't think you ever truly relax apart from the day you have a scan!

Rugs, mine is usually low but then zooms up high, was really surprised how high the scanner moved the doofer up actually, past my belly button at one point!

Just workign out what I can wear out for my girly lunch that will let me eat but also won't dig in, won't look huge etc, this in between bit is awful!

have a good day everyone x

Abilee90 Sat 16-Feb-13 10:38:59

Rugs you think if she had stayed in for the extra 3 weeks they almost a pound on every week til born. The last 3 weeks they put loads of weight on. My bump wasnt very big and was all water, my waters kept going for 2 days lol. I think this baby will be about 8lb for me sad me and my dh aint huge ourselves. So hoping so lol. Dd is a chunk but she loves her food so i put it down to that.

Foof i'm still annoyed about it sad blooming shocking didnt eat hardly any of it sad

Whats everyones plans today xx

Abilee90 Sat 16-Feb-13 12:06:06

I have decided to make rice crispie bird nests with my dd today as we are having an indoors day smile


MrsPennyapple Sat 16-Feb-13 12:21:48

Hi everyone. SIL came round yesterday and said "ooh, you ARE starting to show aren't you?" Hmm. So apparently I am showing. Was absolutely knackered yesterday. All I did was take DD out for a walk, we went to the park with her in the pushchair, and then walked round the pond with her on the reins. We only got as far as going down one side of it, as DD (19mo) insisted on touching every daisy and crocus along the way, it took AGES. Nice to see some flowers starting to come through though, and the day had a real Spring smell about it.

Abi, if it's any consolation we don't have a decent Chinese takeaway nearby, we have two crappy ones though. We don't even bother going any more, except the odd time when I forget, and think "Ooh, haven't had Chinese for ages!" so we get one and wish we hadn't bothered. So disappointing.

LouiseD29 Sat 16-Feb-13 12:30:42

Abilee, I am going to go through my wardrobe today and pack everything away that I know I'm not going to be able to wear for (at least) the next six months to a year and figure out what I'm working with! It's taking me forever to get ready in the mornings at the mo because I no longer know what fits! But I really want to avoid splashing out on loads of maternity wear.

I can feel a very slight bump across lower belly, but you can really spot it yet if I'm in my normal clothes.

Christelle2207 Sat 16-Feb-13 12:59:50

Hope people are feeling better.

I've finally got rid of my cold and definitely feeling better than I have done for a long time, yey! Still no movements though.

I saw consultant the other day (because of thyroid) which was fine and she got the Doppler out and I heard his heartbeat for the first time which was so reassuring, just waiting for the movements now, I feel strange sensations going on but not movements iyswim so concentrating hard when I get to bed at night.

Definitely a small bump here, bought bigger size trousers about a month ago and they're already getting tighter so out to look for mat clothes this pm. Gerry excited about seeing a good friend next week, who is now 20 weeks, lives miles away so don't see her very often.

So pleased the weather has improved, can't wait for clocks to change and the arrival of spring!


muddybloodypuddles Sat 16-Feb-13 13:22:42

Definite bump here too smile
don't say 2nd babies are bigger!! My DS was 8lb 13lb and came on his due date!!! I dont' want another big one shock - that was painful enough thanks.


Abilee90 Sat 16-Feb-13 14:51:35

I live and die in leggins as i have a bad knee and jeans rub it and make it hurt even. So its dresses and tops with leggins. No bump but can feel where my uterus is and feel bean moving.

Pennyapple - it was terrible, normally it good but am so disappointed i just wont shop there again. We do have an amazing indian near us and best kebab pleace ever lol not that eat lots of take aways.

I havent put any weight on or anything. No bump and i want a bump i'm nearly 16 weeks sad

15 weeks 5 days

I'm still poorly :-( major issues getting my medication so still in the throes of Hyperemesis. Really built myself up for today as it was the day it was definitely going to arrive. But no, so been crying as well as vomiting today!

I definitely have a small bump now despite weight loss as opposed to gain. Just reassured that I know the baby will take what it needs, so it's only me with the problems.

16 + 4

Abilee90 Sat 16-Feb-13 15:25:08

Waves huge hugs for u. I havent been able to gain weight. I dont know why. Quite worried as i didnt have this prob before. I know i shouldnt be complaining but doc seem to think its an issue xxx

muddybloodypuddles Sat 16-Feb-13 15:46:20

Waves no wonder you're upset and disappointed, poor you - hope it arrives soon!!

Abilee - don't worry you WILL get a bump soon smile - i got absolutely huge with ds (ppl asking if it was twins) so can only assume I will get quite big with this one too...(what fun)

Abilee90 Sat 16-Feb-13 16:19:01

Muddy - i was showing by now with first. I'll be complaining i'm too big by the end. Just no please in some people lol. How u feeling?


MrsPennyapple Sat 16-Feb-13 17:11:05

Waves you must be utterly miserable, I really feel for you. Hopefully your medicine will arrive Monday and you can kick the hyperemesis's backside!

I'm 15+5 today and feeling all sorts of twinges in my belly, nothing alarming, just things starting to grow and change I think. It all sort of feels a bit more solid, I think. It's hard to explain. I have put on 6lb in total, which is less than I thought, given how much cake I've been eating. Lovely DP made me a white chocolate and raspberry cheesecake yesterday. It's amazing, but quite heavy, and can only be eaten in small portions - even by me, and I'm a pro when it comes to cheesecake.

FoofFighter Sat 16-Feb-13 19:35:22

Feeling a bit better now I felt baby having a rummage about for a bit smile very faint though, had to really concentrate so guess am correct in thining it's shifted about towards the back.

Going out now to an album launch party, hoping can make it till around midnight but we'll see!

chocolatesolveseverything Sat 16-Feb-13 20:28:49

FX you get that medication soon Waves

No movement yet (midwife thought it would be 18wks at the earliest as it's my first), but I do have a small bump so people are starting to comment. My dance teacher told me after class last week that it looks really cute smile.

Weight's starting to pile on though. I only put on 2lbs during first trimester, but last week I put on another 2lbs, and this morning discovered I've put on a further 1lb. Hope this is all baby and not the result of too much pigging out blush.

Yvonney Sun 17-Feb-13 07:09:24

Hi all, welcome to all the newbies.
Abilee - I'm a leggings and dresses girl too! I often have a sore tummy due to Crohn's, and can't stand jeans or anything tight against my tummy. There are some nice dresses in New Look maternity that I want to order.
As I just had my scan on Thursday, we're still telling people. It's funny (or slightly annoying!) how many people have asked if it was planned!?! I think people assumed we weren't having anymore cos my DS is 7 and I'm 37. It's only because we had to wait until I was well enough with the Crohn's we waited. I def have a bit of a tummy, but I always do have a belly as its normally bloated. It's def coming out a bit more from under my boobs though.
Hope everyone has a nice Sunday and hope your medicine arrives soon Waves x

Boosiehs Sun 17-Feb-13 08:27:42

Happy Sunday all!!

Waves, I really hope you get your medication soon. FX!!

We've decided we like the Oyster buggy. My sister has one and she's really happy. Also it's light and folds up really small. In turquoise. smile

Morning everyone!

waves hope your meds arrive soon, it must be hideous sad every time I feel like having a whinge about something I think of you and pull myself up by my bootstraps x

I certainly have a bump, I've gained 5kg already but I think at least half of that is boob - now up 2strap and 4 cup sizes shock

Mums 1st anniversary yesterday. Had nice day with Dad and Sis, tended the grave and took flowers but didn't talk much about her. Less painful than I'd feared and certainly less raw. Thanks for the hand holding earlier in the week ladies thanks

Abilee90 Sun 17-Feb-13 08:51:19

Yvonney - we are getting the same question but it because i'll be 23 in august that they being funny :/ my dh is 30 in august. I dont see the prob.
We are buying our own house, we both have good jobs. My dh has just signed a 5 year contract with fords. So his job is safe. Even down to i never have anyone look after my daughter over night ever. And its been less than 10 times that anyone has had her for couple of hours. Just annoys me. Everyone comments on how well presented my dd is. How well behaved she is and what a credit to me. Even down to listening to me she shocked my new midwife. So i just dont see peoples problem.
I live for my dd, shes my right arm.

Yvonney - its not like 37 is old, our friends have just had their first baby at 35 so you should just tell them that you was waiting for your ds to be bigger or something. I have no bump, but my boobs have got huge. My dh loves to tell me lol men. My friend just had her first baby and she has crohns. It cant be quite nasty from what she has told me so look after yourself

Happy sunday everyone smile

Yvonney Sun 17-Feb-13 09:29:08

Abilee - thanks, they're keeping a closer eye on me and I'm getting extra scans to keep a check on baby too.

It's funny though how people have opinions on your life. Don't get me wrong, everyone is happy but there have def been a few surprised faces! x

A wise woman once told me "opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks!"
Somehow your sexlife and your body become everyone else's business when you're PG, tell em all to get stuffed grin

Yvonney Sun 17-Feb-13 11:36:45

Pmsl Remembering! grin

FoofFighter Sun 17-Feb-13 15:48:15

try being pregnant at almost 40 and a grandmother for shocked faces and inappropriate comments!!!

LexiLoganberryBump Sun 17-Feb-13 18:52:43

We had decided a few years ago that we wouldn't have another but obviously had a change of heart so half expecting the was it planned question but I'm kind of wishing people will say it to us as most of our family are the sorts that'll be nice to your face then bitch among themselves about it being an unwanted pregnancy and I can't bare the thought of that, not sure how to address it, don't want to say we've been trying but at the same time don't want people saying unkind things, my DH doesn't care what people say and think and I know that I shouldn't either but can't help not wanting people to say negative things about our baby.

Foof I'm with you on the nearly 40 one (when's your birthday?) but it's DC1 for me - cue lots of unplanned / IVF questions. Nosey beggars!!

Abilee90 Sun 17-Feb-13 20:53:24

I have a bump today according to my dh smile yay! Only a small one tho.
In 6 days i find out what i am having how exciting!

My mum told me today that she might not come home from spain til april which has upset me as i'm desperate to see her but gonna have to wait another 2 months. Havent seen her since begining of december sad miss her.

Yes i agree with you ladies, opinions should be kept to themselves if they aint nice. Its more my dh aunt that is throwing her opinions around :/ but it upsets me. Even down to nasty statuses on facebook. I have never done anything to this women sad

I'm shattered today, took mil to wedding farye and then to toby carvery was lovely but i am shattered now.


Abilee90 Sun 17-Feb-13 21:01:21

Remembering and foof havent you heard? 40
Is the new 30. So stuff them and their ivf treatment questions smile


Morning all - remembering I am glad you coped ok with the first anniversary of your mum. My dad died very suddenly just under 2 years ago, and it is still really hard at times.

I'm still in my own personal torture room, and am back up to hospital shortly for another admission and copious IV fluids. My new hope is that things will have eased off by 20 weeks, which is now 3 weeks and 1 day away. I've spoken to my mum and she is going to have the DCs to sleep tonight, so I just need to pack my bag again, and get myself up there.

Baby seems to be doing acrobatics at times now, which is lovely but the movement triggers vomiting which isn't so fun!

Hope you are all enjoying a good start to the week

16 + 6

beckie90 Mon 18-Feb-13 13:43:50

Havnt been on in a few days net ran out on my phone.

I'm currently sat in the hospital waiting to be seen by a doctor, had horrible tightnings very regular and period pains and backache aswell as pressure down there. So waiting to be checked over hopefully its just a uti making my uterus irratable.

Hope everyone is well


stacey212528 Mon 18-Feb-13 13:54:44

Beckie, got my fingers crossed for you. Sending lots of good thoughts your way!

Waves hope you feel better soon.

Spots are finally beginning to fade, so have spent yesterday and today gutting the house. Exciting stuff I know. Also trying to find a baby show ANYWHERE in Scotland with no luck. Off now to clean the inside of the fridge.. The joys!

MrsPennyapple Mon 18-Feb-13 14:37:19

Hope all goes ok and it's nothing to worry about Beckie

I had a dream last night, that I'd had the baby, it was a boy, and he was about 3 months old in the dream. I kept forgetting about him, and leaving him places around the house. I suddenly realised I'd left him on the floor between the chair and the sofa, and when I ran back to get him he'd got hold of a biro and had pen marks all over his face, and then DP arrived home and I had to explain why the baby was covered in blue pen. Oh well, funny old pregnancy dreams. How come I never get rude ones? I have dreams that look as though they are heading in that direction, but I wake up (usually needing the loo) before I get to the good part. It's not fair!

Noodles80 Mon 18-Feb-13 15:26:27

Beckie - hope it all goes ok at the hospital

Waves - sorry you are still feeling so poorly. I really hope the hospital can help this time!

I had my scan last Monday and all looked good! New due date of 29th August. I got blood results back and all ok on that front too. Now just need to see consultant for thyroid and hopefully all ok for the moment!

I am back in Asia working and completely exhausted. Yesterday I worked from 4am until midnight. Been feeling a bit sorry for myself as on a conference tour and the only food has been sushi which obviously can't eat! Reticent to tell anyone I am pregnant as really wanted to wait until 20 weeks for work people, but I have been feeling ratty and hungry. Given how much everyone else has been drinking I think the fact that I'm on the soft drinks might be giving it away though! I'm sorry to whinge as I know others are having a really tough time. It just feels a bit exhausting at the moment as my job involves so much travel and its really wearing me out. Unfortunately I still have lots to do before baby, so will have to stop moaning and get on with it!

Right, sorry for the rant! Enjoy the rest of the day. 12.30 here so bedtime for me.

Abilee90 Mon 18-Feb-13 15:45:05

Beckie let us know as soon as. Hugs.

Stacey glad spots are fading but remember to take it easy.

Waves get better soon hun, feel for u.

Pennyapple i had dreams when i was preg with dd that she was a girl and she had gotten into pink paint. I asked a dream specialist and she said your body can make you dream about sex or a certain colour. Me and my dh have both had dreams about this one being a boy so if dreams are right. I will let you know on sat as find out then


beckie90 Mon 18-Feb-13 16:08:38

Back from hospital, clear of uti, still in pain even more so now, all the doc did which was a young woman (not a midwife) was look and swab me. Then sent me home feeling very mad tbh. Don't know what else to do now, other then express all this to my midwife Thursday and see if she can refer me to be properly checked out rather than be just looked at. I don't feel happy at all with that given the pain xx

FoofFighter Mon 18-Feb-13 17:10:57

Noodles, your job sounds so exciting! Tiring, but exciting smile I can only imagine the torture of not being able to eat that sushi sad if it's been frozen first it's ok, but highly doubt they do it that way over there eh? Any hint on what it is you do?

Beckie, that doesn't sound good. How bad is the pain on a scale of 1-10? I think I'd be giving my MW a call if they have said there's no UTI (but it could be borderline on dipsticks yet positive if they send it away for cultures?) Don't be sitting sorrying, give them a ring, or if it's too late for them, ring the ward up.

mrsPennyapple, i just keep dreaming about work!!

Waves sad you must be so tired, poor thing. How are the kids doing?

I was snuggling an 8 week old today, bumpo did NOT like that! a minute in and it was bang bang bang get off my MOMMY!!!!!! hehehe

Bought this: www.boots.com/en/Mini-Club-Newborn-Boy-Brights-All-In-One_1290124/ annoyed they call something unisex like this a boys thing though, why can't girls wear brights too?! I hate cream and pastel stuff, much rather lots of lovely bright stuff like this. Anyway generally impressed with the Boots clothes overall, they aren't too twee, worth a look right now with the baby event on as lots reduced and lots on bogohalfprice.

Anyone else bought anythign they can show me smile

Lexi, if people did start asking about IVF type of stuff with me then they'd get short shrift tbh, with my ex husband I was referred for IVF as suffered with secondary unexplained infertility, we tried for 5 yrs before we split up, not a sniff of a pg. Then with new man got pg without trying last year which we sadly lost, and then this preg, no problems! Strange how things work out. Must be toyboy power ;)

RuckAndRoll Mon 18-Feb-13 18:25:53

foof that babygrow is brilliant! DH and I love bright and colourful. I may have to get that one. So far we've bought a baby bath with insert in the Sainsburys baby event, it's winnie the pooh. Off on holiday next week so we're waiting until after that before buying much extra.

beckie If you're not happy, phone your midwife, or go back to the hospital and get stroppy until you're happy.

noodles Asia sounds exciting but I know how draining travel for work can be. Due to my blood pressure issues I'm not allowed to travel at the moment, it has it's benefits. Glad the scan went well.

I've had my first day back at work today, I'm totally exhausted now, but on the plus side I didn't pass out or fall down the stairs!

beckie90 Mon 18-Feb-13 18:52:13

foof its exactly like the start of my labour with ds2 I was in slow labour the tightnings arnt painful just uncomfortable, but the lower backpain n period pains hurt more. Just like with ds2. I'm going to discuss it with my MW and ask to be seen at a different hospital. I have no faith in my hospital at all. I had major problems with them while having ds1 they just seem to not have no cares and fob you off

RugBugs Mon 18-Feb-13 18:56:36

Beckie have you checked your maternity notes to see what they say? Mine say (not very clearly) that beyond 12 weeks we call straight into 24hr labour/delivery reception.

Hurray for spots starting to clear Stacey!

Waves I hope they can get you your medication in hospital. Why didn't they just dispense it from the hospital pharmacy when you were discharged last time?

Foof I have to agree with you about toyboy power! DP is eight years younger than me and one slip of bc on my part led to DD.

DP realllllly wants these dinos, we have more girls clothes than any DD2 could ever need so our only purchases will be boys clothes.

MrsPennyapple Mon 18-Feb-13 19:07:55

Foof Love that babygro. Thanks for the heads up about Boots, I do like their baby clothes, DD has had a few bits from there. I do quite like the coffee and cream colours though smile

muddybloodypuddles Mon 18-Feb-13 19:28:37

beckie - please ring your antenatal ward or whatever it says in your notes, if you feel something isn't right please trust your intuition and get it checked out asap, hopefully everything is fine but otherwise you will just be worrying, my mw said 'always contact, don't ever feel like you're being silly' xx

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 18-Feb-13 19:46:28

beckie, hope everything gets sorted soon...sounds very stressful.

waves thanks again, really hope you're not back in hospital very long.

Foof, lovely babygro!
We're avoiding things with feet...DS has massive elephant feet & they haven't ever fit into anything with footholes, no doubt if we have a girl she'll be a lanky balding big foot like her dad!
Had a look around Bluewater today, all the new stock is in the shops & there is some lovely looking girls stuff atm.
What's the female version of toyboy, DH is 11years older than me.


beckie90 Mon 18-Feb-13 19:55:44

I rang antenatal first thing this morning they said I'm not allowed to be seen there as I'm too early so I went to gp who checked my pulse hmm and poked my belly then said no your fine no more further action, so then obviously thought what the actual hell and rang a midwife cause my midwifes phone was off, she reffered me to epu/gynaecology ward. I didnt feel that was right place for me but antenatal lady I spoke to on phone this morning was really nice and said what I was describing wasn't the norm she mentioned irritable uterus and in worst case misscariage, but the doctor on gynae ward just said well pains are normal in pregnancy, so seemed she didnt have a clue cause given I've had 3 previous pregnancys, I've never had pain like this until the end. Theres a hospital 30mins away that specialises in pregnancy, so hopefully my midwife will see this isn't normal and I'm concerned and refer me there.

Sorry to ramble, just real down about it and always made to feel like been over worried were I live and there care provided x

RugBugs Mon 18-Feb-13 20:29:12

Ramble on Beckie, it's awful when something's not right but medical professionals tell you otherwise.
I'm another one who is not happy with previous care from my hospital but I shall go in a lot wiser and much more assertive this time.

muddybloodypuddles Mon 18-Feb-13 20:34:01

beckie - not surprised you're feeling a bit down about it, sounds like you've been passed around a bit without getting any answers or feel like you've been taken seriously enough, I thought epu for was before 12 weeks? Anyway, I hope you are getting some rest and it's all okay in the end - can you give your midwife a ring tomorrow if pain is still there? x

Gary - I've not got a toyboy either - DH is 9 years older than me :/

foof - I like the babygrow too - lovely and colourful smile - i haven't bought anything for the baby yet, just mat bras and clothes for me smile

Stacey - glad your spots are going, you sound like you're doing a bit much maybe?? I can't seem to do that much without chicken pox grin - hope you're getting rest too

Noodles - you made me feel knackered just reading that - if you tell work would they reduce the amount of travel you have to do - not sure what you do... but surely they'd need to take that into consideration?

Ruck - well done on not passing out or falling down the stairs! Was it nice to get back to work?

Anyone elses bump ache quite a lot? Not sure if its just wind or stretching or both but by evening it feels like it's too heavy or something (and we've got a looong way to go yet!), doesn't feel weird or wrong just achey..

16wks today smile

RugBugs Mon 18-Feb-13 20:45:11

I'm leaving DD with DPs parents for only the fourth time tomorrow while we go to the cinema. They've not had her since she could crawl and she's 2.3 now!
I'm half terrified we'll come back to her with shorter hair or wearing random new shoes (why do clarks do shoes in burgundy and purple?) or worse, a dog bite from one of their over-enthusiastic labs sad

beckie90 Mon 18-Feb-13 20:57:13

That's what I thought too muddy wouldn't really call over 15wks early pregnancy anymore. But I guess they put me there because I was too early for antenatal. I don't know when they can see you from on antenatal ward over here, but can't be too far away as I was seen there with ds2 at bang on 22wk with bleeding. Stupid how it works over here, I was sat with a couple of old ladies waiting for there surgery (obviously gynocology surgery or something) I'm still tightning but pain eased off abit, but no doubt it will be back in morning cause thats what happend last night.

rugs definatly do that, don't seem to get anywere if not.

In other news lol got my ds2 potty trained in less then a day, even going for number 2s (sorry tmi) its just ds1 wouldn't go for that till 18 months after he started using the potty he always asked for a nappy on for that. And I've got my college interview next week smile yay very excited for that x

Jollymummy2 Mon 18-Feb-13 21:16:00

Ooh Beckie well done on potty training. Being trying to get ds sorted (he's 2yrs 9mths) for about 6 mths and he has never quite figured it out. Although yesterday I felt so tired I couldn't even get the energy to get his nappy on, and he went on the toilet every time grin
Tried it again today and only one wee accident. He has decided baby needs his nappies. I can't quite believe it was so easy.
I'm loving the bright coloured baby clothes. Not sure i can justify buying more as I still have all the clothes from the last 3 wink

I have been looking at prams over the last few weeks, and just can't decide what I want. DH laughs and says at least it keeps me quite.

MrsWajs Mon 18-Feb-13 21:27:19

Waves I hope you're feeling better soon, sounds like you're having an awful time sad

Beckie Can't believe you've basically been fobbed off! Hope you get some better answers from your own MW. And well done on the potty training. I bought DD some 'big girl pants' today as I think she's just about ready, she frequently asks for the toilet, mainly for poo's but she uses the same word for both things! And probably 8 times out of 10 she does something so I reckon it's getting quite reliable. I just need a good stretch of days off to do it properly with her. Do any of you think it's too early at 1year 10months??

No idea what to do re: pram, thinking I need a double but people keep telling me not to bother. Currently have a quinny and was going to get a lascal buggy board but have read some reviews tonight which indicate they aren't too good whilst using carrycot or buggy in parent facing mode which isn't ideal. I have a friend with a phil & teds explorer who may be interested in a swap so need to check them out and see what I think.

Thought I felt some slight movement tonight but it could still be too early at 12+3. First felt it at 17 weeks with DD.
Second scan tomorrow and hopefully now get NT measurements and get a firm date!!

beckie90 Mon 18-Feb-13 21:36:12

mrswas ds1 was 18 months when he started using potty and toilet for wees and ds2 is 1yr 10 month too, so no I think if they show signs there ready then go for it. With ds2 he started pulling his nappy off and throwing it away then soon as he needed a wee or a poo he would tell me and then go get another nappy out and pass me it so last night o thought right let's try his potty out he's been using it ever since. And I'd say you prob did feel the baby smile

jolly welldone on your little boy too, they grow up way too quick don't they xx

RugBugs Mon 18-Feb-13 22:02:53

We have an explorer MrsWajs and it's no good with a carrycot or parent facing with a doubles kit or buggy board either I'm afraid. Only real options for a newborn in doubles mode is with second seat on top and newborn flat in main seat.

So much potty training at the minute! I was sorely tempted to do it with DD this week but we're away on Wednesday for a while.

Stopsittingonyoursister Mon 18-Feb-13 22:56:08

Hi All

beckie sorry to hear you have worries at the moment, I hope you get some better answers soon. Well done on potty training DS2, he sounds like he's a bright boy! My DS was an absolute nightmare, we had to send postcards from his poo (don't ask) to get him to put anything in the toilet at all. I was dreading doing DD, but she got it in about three days. I guess having an older sibling can be a good thing sometimes.

JollyMummy congrats to your little boy too.

mrsWajs I have the lascal buggy board and it was fab for DS when DD was in the pram, but he was 2.11 when he started using it and could be relied on to stay on the board and not jump off. I don't think the fittings fit every pram either. My friend has a Phil and Ted's and they are great as a double, but very heavy and very large to fit in the car boot, so I guess it depends on what upper body strength you have and how big your car is!

Rug hope your DD survived! Did you enjoy the film?

Ruck congrats on your first day back at work. Have you gone back full time straight away or are they letting you ease yourself back in to the routine?

Hurrah for spot-free skin, Stacey. Make sure you rest up - the cleaning can wait until the "nesting" kicks in!

Noodles your job sounds very exciting! The furthest I've ever travelled for work is Dublin! How do you think work will react when you tell them? Will you still be able to travel etc?

waves very sorry to hear you still aren't feeling well. Hope you are getting more help from your mother, and you can rest and rehydrate.

muddy my bump feels like it's stretching in an evening as well. Not unpleasant, just like it's growing.

MrsPenny I have very vivid dreams at the moment. I wake up and really believe that something I've dreamt has actually happened - makes my mornings very confusing! I dreamt the other day that Gary Linekar had died, and was telling DH how awful it was, and he thought I was mad!

Well, Center Parcs was fab as always. Turns out DS is absolutely fearless, going down every flume and slide on his own even though he is only 5 and can only swim 10m! DD also loved the water, and spent most the time "washing" my hair (tipping a bucket of water over my head!). I love the times we spend away together, as we see DH so infrequently because he works long hours, so ofter during the week the kids are in bed before he gets home. It's lovely seeing them all playing together. I think we'll miss not getting away in the August holiday this year, as we usually go to Cornwall for a week, but I just daren't book anything. I have DH at home for one more day tomorrow, and then he is back at work. Going to make the most of the extra pair of hands and actually sit down for a bit!!

Hope everyone else is well.

beckie90 Tue 19-Feb-13 08:18:10

stopsitting that made me laugh about the postcards smile things we do for kids eh.You sound like you and your LO's had an amazing time at center parks, sounds lovely smile

Hope everyone has a lovely Tuesday

15+3 xx

DaveMccave Tue 19-Feb-13 12:58:13

foof that was the first clothing item I bought too! A few weeks a go i'll be honest. Reminded me of the Toby Tiger one but fraction of the price. It would be even better if the neck band was yellow.

noodle Asia! Wow, very exciting. You must be knackered though!

Dd has just been picked up by her dad for 2 nights and dp and I are going to make the most of it and have borrowed his brothers boat in Wales, so we're going to stay on that smile Trying to make the most of all child free time at the moment.

Dexidoo Tue 19-Feb-13 14:07:23

Hi all

Hope everyone is doing ok. I work in a surgery and got to hear a heartbeat today- one of the ladies I work with got the sonic aid out, was lovely to hear.

Told the grandparents last weekend got 'congratulations' swiftly followed by 'just as well you are getting on a bit' ( wtf I'm 34 today!!) and to top it off 'you'll have to get rid off the dog' ( who is the softest thing in the world). Don't think I'll be going back to see them for a while!


RugBugs Tue 19-Feb-13 17:29:20

Happy Birthday Dexido!!!

We got the same comment re getting rid of our cats from some quarters. Bah!

MrsPennyapple Tue 19-Feb-13 22:15:18

Reading all this potty training talk with interest. DD is 19mo and tells me when she is doing a poo. We have bought a potty and sat her on it a few times with no expectations, just to get her used to it really. We normally do it immediately before her bath, and she hasn't done anything in it yet, but a couple of times has been not too keen to sit on it, and then has weed as soon as she is in the bath. So this tells me that she is aware of needing to wee, and she is able to hold it for a few moments. Obviously I'd rather she didn't pee in fresh bathwater, but at least I know the awareness is starting to be there, although I suspect she it too little to really get it yet. I have a toilet training seat thing, maybe I'll sit her on that and see what she thinks.

Had my appointment with the consultant today, not really sure why but everyone has one here. So they took my blood pressure, listened to the baby's heartbeat, and said they'll see me again if I go a week overdue. Not really sure why I had to go up to the hospital for that, as they could have done it all locally. I didn't even see the consultant I'm supposed to be "under"! Lovely to hear baby's heartbeat though, although it wasn't terribly clear. Maybe he / she was in a funny position.

Dexido Get rid of the dog indeed, how silly! As if you have some slavering beast tied up in the corner of the living room!

JollyRedGiant Tue 19-Feb-13 22:28:29

DS will be 2 in April and is definitely nowhere near potty training. Although he knows when he is pooing, and will hold in poos until a more convenient time, he has not got any clue about when he is doing a pee. When he does one in the bath he looks very surprised.

I have heard that boys take longer than girls though. But it seems to me inevitable that we will have two in nappies. I'm not too worried about it actually. I'd rather wait until he was ready than have to deal with regular clothes changes.

Things with me are heading back towards an even keel so I'm feeling a bit more okay about life and baby now.

OxfordToLondoner Tue 19-Feb-13 22:49:43

My DS is nearly 5 and has only just come out of night nappies (and still wees himself in the daytime too). Don't sweat it ladies!

Dexidoo your grandparents just made me feel ANCIENT! (mind you, i am 41)

Noodles80 Wed 20-Feb-13 04:20:29

Stop sitting - I'm sure work will be fine when I tell them, its just believe it or not I will be the first person in the office to have a baby so not sure they will know what to do with me!

Muddy - Not really possible to do less travel in this role at the moment as I am in charge of global marketing for everything we do in Asia so have to make lots of visits all over the place. As long as I feel well then plan to travel until June and then have two lovely months at home!

Off home this afternoon and then Malaysia next week!

Abilee90 Wed 20-Feb-13 08:47:48

Hey ladies

Sounds like a lot of potty training going on, we still havent tried with dd as shes only 13 months. So prob will have two in nappies.

I went to bed a night last night after having a headache for over 24 hrs. It was so bad it made me have tears in my eyes. Then to top it of dh made me a bacon sandwhich projectile vomitted after eating half. So have slept for nearly 12 hours :0 feel a tiny bit better but not great sad

Beckie how are the pains?

3 days til private scan :D wooo i cant wait


beckie90 Wed 20-Feb-13 10:21:13

abi Omg I just been thinking about that, I'm terrified me lol. Well yest I had pain but not as bad and the tightnings wernt uncomfortable, but today I've got lots of pain at the moment tightnings are getting slightly uncomfortable again. I see my midwife tomorow, so mentioning it to her again hopefully can get seen by some1 who specialises in this rather then just some doctor of the gynocology ward. Hope your feeling better soon hun xx

RuckAndRoll Wed 20-Feb-13 10:45:25

Morning all,

I'm feeling a lot happier today, finally gave in yesterday and decided my normal stretchy trousers are now too tight so hit new look on the way home from work as they have loads in store and they do tall trousers. Today is bliss! I suspect most of it's fat/tummy and not baby but I don't care, I'm comfy!

Hope those of you feeling unwell perk up soon. I'm back at work, feeling rough but plodding on until Friday as we go on holiday for 2 weeks on saturday so can rest lots then.


stacey212528 Wed 20-Feb-13 10:54:53

Morning everyone (: Think I may have overdone it with the cleaning the other day as have slept pretty much all day since then! Lol. Midwife appointment today, though can't think of any questions at the minute. Will probably think of a thousand afterward though! Hopefully get to hear peanuts heart beat. So fingers ctossed for that. Hope everyone who's poorly/sore feel better soon. Xx

Jollymummy2 Wed 20-Feb-13 11:11:45

Lol Ruckandroll, I too have a "bump" which is mainly just tummy not baby, but could not do my trousers up yesterday so think maternity clothes might be making an appearance very soon.
Ooh Ruck we are due date buddies, in 15 + 3 too!
I do seem to get big quickly, and as this is number 4 I'm kinda expecting to be HUGE by the end shock

Having lots of stretchy achey pains, so will have a chat to MW next week at my appt and get a physio referral.

Hope the blooming is starting and the sickness has passed for you all.

muddybloodypuddles Wed 20-Feb-13 14:06:29

Ruck and jolly - er I started in mat clothes (jeans anyway) from about 10wks/11wks!! But my bump does seem huge - prob doesn't help that I had ivf as I always put weight on with treatment too - ah well, just hope its not too difficult to shift at the end hmm

Abilee - do you think you could be having braxton hicks?? They can start quite early in a 2nd or subsequent pregnancy... just a thought..also - not sure i'm going to be able to eat a bacon sandwich for a while now hmm

Noodles - ooh sounds exhausting but I suppose if you're used to it already then it's not as bad - hope you manage to get lots of rest this week smile

As for potty training I did DS in August when he was 2 and a half - only because he wanted big boy pants and was telling me when he was going. He did okay but I still get frustrated now and again as we can't seem to get through a fortnight without at least one accident but he's definitely getting better - I'm just going at his pace really. But he went dry at night straight away - he said he didn't want to wear nappies at night either so I tried (with the drynites sheet) and he's been dry ever since...weird, he's better at night than he is during the day but then who knows what really goes on in a toddlers mind

Got MW appt tomorrow but think I'll have to take DS, don't want to tell him about baby no.2 yet, until at least the 20wk scan, so not sure what to say when the MW listens to the heartbeat (mummy's tummy making a funny noise?)hmm

Yvonney Wed 20-Feb-13 14:18:21

Hi all, hope everyone having a good day. I had to share last nights dream with you. Channing Tatum was my boyfriend in it!!!! Omg, it was fab, he was declaring his un-dying love for me lol!!! Was gutted when I woke up ;-)

Back to reality, really chuffed as I got 3 tops and a dress from New Look maternity, in the sale - yay! x


FoofFighter Wed 20-Feb-13 14:58:08

Hello all., nothing to report, just checking in smile


muddybloodypuddles Wed 20-Feb-13 16:37:28

yvonney - I have also been having a few, erm..sexual type dreams, makes me feel a bit strange for the rest of the day sometimes, like I've been cheating hmm nobody famous in mine though sad - I like new look for mat clothes

Locketjuice Wed 20-Feb-13 16:43:44

I lost this thread and couldn't for the life of me find it until now grin

Better late than never smile

LexiLoganberryBump Wed 20-Feb-13 17:03:37

I seem to have got loads of appointments through all of a sudden, Having bloods done on monday for the quad test as I couldn't have the nt combined test.

Seeing my midwife on the 5th March then meeting my consultant on the 6th March, also got my second scan on the 16th April and I'll be 22 weeks by then so going to check that with my midwife or give the antenatal clinic a call as my notes say I should have it at 20 weeks.

Hope everyone's ok

JollyRedGiant Wed 20-Feb-13 18:10:11

I dreamed about some incredibly passionate sex with Chris Evans. The Radio 2 breakfast show hasn't been quite the same since.

stacey212528 Wed 20-Feb-13 19:36:05

Anyone else find the 16 week appointment a waste of time? Was in and out in 5 minutes, no examination or anything /:

I dreamt the other night that I had a major argument with my best friend. So real I phoned her to sort it out! Lol.

MrsSmurfette Wed 20-Feb-13 21:13:23

Hi everyone, just wanted to introduce myself. Have been lurking, for what seems like forever, sine I got my bfp just before Christmas but after a mmc at my 12 week scan the previous Christmas I was very nervous/paranoid until this scan. Had it on valentines day and there is one very kicky long legged baby this time. Had NT test and measurements were fine and not had phone call saying am high risk so fingers crossed - was a bit worried as I'm 38 and its my first? Due on 26th August - 2 weeks before first wedding anniversary!
Have followed all the threads and want to say I'm thinking about those having a tough time and looking forward to sharing this time with everyone.

Stopsittingonyoursister Wed 20-Feb-13 21:21:31

Stacey I am always glad when my appts go quick, means there's nothing wrong! From memory, I think I just get the dipstick test and listen to the heartbeat at 16 weeks, all nice and easy! I have mine on Monday, hoping MW will run on time otherwise I'll have to run to collect DS from school!

JollyRed that made me LOL!

Welcome back locketjuice

beckie hope you get some answers soon. You are due for a scan shortly, aren't you, so at least you will get another look at the baby to reassure you all is well.

abilee your headache sounds awful. I hope you feel better soon.

I am definitely in maternity clothes now, have been for about 3 or 4 weeks. Was paranoid at CP that I didn't "look" pg but just large, I much prefer having a definite bump so everyone knows I haven't just been overdoing it on the cakes! I have had to buy all new bras as well, hoping they will last me after pg (although I still have some F cup bras from last time, although I'm usually only a C cup! DH loved it!)

Movements in the bump have definitely changed. The flutterings have gone, and been replaced by very definite stretches from the baby. If I put my hand on the bump, I can feel the baby turning around underneath, which is lovely.

It's my DMum's 65th birthday in a couple of weeks. She asked for a mug with a photo of each of her grandchildren on it, so she could always have one to drink from. So, me and my DSis took all the kids to a pottery cafe place to paint their own mugs. They looked brill, they did such a good job - although only DS' mug was actually a recognisable picture. DD's and DNiece's (both 2) were a little more "abstract". It was a lot of fun, will definitely be doing that again!

Stopsittingonyoursister Wed 20-Feb-13 21:22:22

PS hi and welcome Mrssmurfette, sorry x-post.

muddybloodypuddles Wed 20-Feb-13 21:33:35

Hi & welcome mrssmurfette - I also had a 12 wk mmc at beg December before last so know a bit about how you're feeling, I don't think the anxiety goes away just gets a bit better - I was a mess before the 12wk scan this time round! But keep telling myself this is a completely different pregnancy x

stopsitting - mug sounds lovely, I have also noticed I'm sticking my 'bump' out a bit more when in public so hopefully people realise I'm pg rather than fat (although I do feel v fat)

Have 16wk MW appt tomorrow but will certainly be asking for some Gaviscon and telling her all about my lower back pain so hopefully it will be longer than 5 mins wink - she'll prob be glad to get rid of the whingey one


stacey212528 Wed 20-Feb-13 21:54:14

Didn't listen to heartbeat or take a urine sample. Blood pressure, everything ok questions and on my way. But hey I shouldn't moan. Trying to decide when to book my gender scan. Don't want it too close to my 20 week as I want there to be a difference in the pictures if you know what I mean. But then again patience is not a virtue I've been blessed with.

muddy we're due date buddies! Lol.


Yvonney Thu 21-Feb-13 08:47:40

Welcome MrsSmurfette, I had my scan on Valentines day too! My original due date was also 26th Aug, but have now been put back to 28th Aug. Although in my head I'm ignoring that and still due 26th! ;-)

Have a good day everyone x

beckie90 Thu 21-Feb-13 09:50:29

Welcome mrssmurfette smile

stopsitting yea in 2 days smile he/she is fine keep feeling it move all time

Nothing much to report here

15+5 x

Abilee90 Thu 21-Feb-13 11:17:51

Beckie only 2 days eppp i cant wait! Just as i wrote this bean just started kicking around like a nutter lol. I cant wait. What time is your appointment? We must announce it on here.

Feel very healthy today and no headache yay!!!

16 + 2 smile

beckie90 Thu 21-Feb-13 12:15:59

Abi mines at 1pm. I think I can already announce its a boy Haha did have a big girl feeling but my gut says boy. I'm also feeling quite well today so far, no migraines. Got midwifes today.

Well I recieved a perscription through post for 8 antibiotics a day, not stating what they was for. It turns out that it was from the gp I saw before epu who did no tests at all, so I've asked what they are for, he says I looked back over your records and saw u have group strep b, so its for that. So now I'm confused as my midwife said id just be treated in labour. So im going to have words with the midwife first as I don't wana take them if there not neccesary


MrsWajs Thu 21-Feb-13 12:16:10

Haha Yvonney I am also ignoring MW advice on due date and sticking to my own, mainly because they are now saying 1st September!!! Does that make me the very last person on the list??
It won't matter anyway cus I'm having this baby on the 30th August (which probably still makes me the last person on the list, hmmmph) smile

Thanks for all advice on buggy boards and buggies. I am now currently bidding on a couple of icandy peach blossoms on ebay <fickle>