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April 2013 part six...what does the third trimester have in store?

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edinfirst Sat 12-Jan-13 22:43:34

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edinfirst Sat 12-Jan-13 22:44:51

Hello ladies
Wanted to make sure we have a new home so floss can keep us updated and we can all send her our best!

Thinking of you floss

Dysgu Sat 12-Jan-13 22:58:11

More fingers crossed here for you Floss and hoping that nothing happens overnight and that everything stays put for as long as possible. Have you had the steroids? Have they given you anything to stop the contractions?

We have 2 NCIU DDs but have our fingers crossed that it won't happen this time - but are planning on getting stuff ready and packing a bag soonish.

steph2412 Sat 12-Jan-13 23:14:33

Really hope your ok Floss when is everybod getting everything ready washing clothes etc?

PandaOnAPushBike Sat 12-Jan-13 23:22:16

Marking my place.

Flosshilde Sat 12-Jan-13 23:23:09

Dysgu - I had the steroids last week when I was in so they have had plenty of time to work. They haven't tried to stop the contractions this time as it is the second time I am in and it was an abject failure last time and with my DS. I was going to get a bag packed etc at 30 weeks.

Thanks edin for starting the new thread.

I am going to try and get some sleep now, pain is ok just a stabbing feeling in my cervix.

Missmuffet28 Sat 12-Jan-13 23:26:55

Ooh new thread!

Good luck whatever happens floss!!

Steph I'm not sure there is a definitive answer to that one don't think I will until I want it as I'm tight like that and know if its too big too small or my blue is actually a pink I won't be able to return it but I think some of the neutral new born stuff I may wash I'm not gonna have more than a 10 pounder right!!??!!

Thanks for birthday wishes its been a nice day!


EssexWelsh Sun 13-Jan-13 01:07:19

Good luck floss, sounds like you have it all in control, hope the next few days-or hopefully longer-go well!

On the subject of changing bags, I am in love with the Pacapod Almora that fingers crossed I have been hinted at as getting for a gift from friends .

Nuttyfilly Sun 13-Jan-13 01:08:36

Good luck floss, marking place.
Hope everyone is ok

EssexWelsh Sun 13-Jan-13 01:12:33

Also discovered Sainsburys club today, currently 1/3 off anything baby related for anyone plus if you register here www.sainsburys.co.uk/littleones they send you a voucher for a free huggies starter pack, better get quick as huggies being discontinued so it's while stocks last!!

Trishstar Sun 13-Jan-13 01:54:34


Thinking of you xxx

Novia Sun 13-Jan-13 10:28:30

Signing in!

birdbrain17 Sun 13-Jan-13 10:39:28

just marking place on new thread..
thinking of everyone who's in pain and hope everything is okay floss


Ollibobs Sun 13-Jan-13 11:50:32

Essex I got the Pacapod Almora with a gift voucher just after Christmas. I had only seen it online and when it arrived, I was really pleased with the quality. There's lots of room in it too! What colour are you hoping for?

Ollibobs Sun 13-Jan-13 12:09:49

Another one for you Essex... What do you mean Huggies are being discontinued? Do you mean all the nappies, wipes etc?

Giddypants Sun 13-Jan-13 12:23:48

Thinking of you floss x

huggies making no more nappies here

Just popping in to say hi, things all ok here still in pain with the SPD seeing physio again tomorrow.

EssexWelsh Sun 13-Jan-13 12:26:09
EssexWelsh Sun 13-Jan-13 12:26:38

And Olithe sand as it goes with my bugaboo pram smile

lutrinae Sun 13-Jan-13 13:29:14

Crossing fingers for you flosshilde.

Thanks for the Sainsburys link Essex.

28+0 3rd trimester woo!

somewherebecomingrain Sun 13-Jan-13 13:52:18

Marking my place xx

Ollibobs Sun 13-Jan-13 14:41:24

Thanks for the link Essex and Giddypants.

Essex the sand is lovely! Good choice!

KelleStar Sun 13-Jan-13 16:23:49

Sainsbury's is good sale! stocked up on DD's nibbles and Lansinoh breast pads for when the fun begins, really cheap at the moment!

Went to the park today with DD, absoloutely knackered, this little bump is full on straining against my skin itches and aches.

floss hope all goes well for you and your baby.


steph2412 Sun 13-Jan-13 16:41:17

Ive also been to sainsburys got 3 packs pf number 1 nappys 2 big packs of number 2s big box of wipes nappy cream extra teats for bottles all for 35!also got my free huggies kit x

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 13-Jan-13 16:53:06

Afternoon all! Marking spot etc.

I have finished my night shifts smile thank goodness. Have agreed with boss that I won't do any more now. Phew.

I will be hitting the shops in the next few days to stock up on some stuff. I haven't bought much in the way of tiny stuff (in my head I'm anticipating an 8lb+ baby!) so I've mostly bought 3-6 month stuff with a view to the baby growing quickly and that people will buy newborn baby stuff for us as gifts?!


Teapig Sun 13-Jan-13 18:02:50

Thanks for starting a new thread edin.

Floss, thinking of you and hoping that baby stays put a little longer.

The Sainsbury's event is great, I've picked up quite a few bits from there at really good prices.

steph, I'm planning to do all the newborn clothes washing and batch cooking while I'm on leave before baby arrives. I'm finishing at 37 weeks so hoping that will leave me a bit of time to do the final preparations, watch plenty of bad tv and eat chocolate.

steph2412 Sun 13-Jan-13 18:13:24

faith ive also only brought 0-3 & 3-6 months clothes as my 2nd dc was 8lb 6 and only just fitted in his newborn clothes so i fugured this time if baby is smaller dh can just nip and get some essentials in newborn rather than having loads hanging around. i feel i cant leave organising things to late as i have my last consultant app at 34weeks that is only 7 weeks ago eek!

LikeCandy Sun 13-Jan-13 18:55:21

Hi all, hope everyone is having a good weekend?

floss good luck, we're all thinking of you and little one, with crossed fingers!

faith we've been gifted 3 Next newborn size sleepsuits, but the smallest stuff I've bought is 0-3m. DH is tall and the midwife seems to think that baby will be too (I'm getting kicked / punched in the ribs / groin simultaneously when she stretches!) I guess if stuff is far too big I'll be sending DH out, or ordering online with next day delivery!!
I'll be washing the basics once mat leave starts at 37+3.

mama still thinking of you and Alexander, hoping all is well for you both.

I washed a (new) teddy today with the intention of sleeping with it for the next couple of weeks so it smells like us, but it looks really scruffy now! sad

I'll be popping into Sainsburys tomorrow, hope they have Lansinoh cream and breast pads in stock! I'm also going to get some cheapy breast pads for now (because I'm already leaking a little most days), and some maternity pads to see what they look like. I always use organic cotton (natracare or similar) sanitary products because my skin doesn't agree with plastic coatings / scents etc so I'm hoping maternity pads are just simple thick cotton!

Oh and I had my 28w midwife appointment this week, no protein in urine this time (I was +1 at 25w) thank goodness but my blood pressure is up. Had bloods done for iron levels. Bump now measuring on for dates, so it's grown 4cm in 3 weeks! Next appointment at 32w.


EssexWelsh Sun 13-Jan-13 19:19:11

Could I have some advice on mattresses-they vary so much in cost and no idea what I should be looking for. Need a 60 x 120 for our cot bed.

Also how many nappies should I be buying, have been told not to bulk but in case baby doesn't like that brand but want to take advantage of cheap Sainsburys prices but not if they are just going to go to waste.


wishfulthinking1 Sun 13-Jan-13 19:32:13

Hi all-
flossi - thinking of you- good luck!

Have 28 wk midwife appointment tomorrow- have to have to at hospital as am having the anti-d injection. (Am sure mw has explained that this is- but can't remember for the life of me- my mum seems to think the injection will be in my bum- can anyone verify this or is my mum winding me up?)

All is well here- just painted toe- nails and have told dh that he'll have to do it next week- bump is getting in the way! I haven't got a massive bump- in fact a lot of people have told me it looks quite small, which makes me totally paranoid, but I'm sure everything is fine- it's v wriggly- looking forward to the bump measuring tomorrow!

Can't believe our baby is due in 12 weeks! We fitted the isofix base in our new car today just to check it out- its so exciting- I can't wait to be a proper family!


28 weeks today!!

P.s. what do you think the chances are of school being closed tomorrow because of snow? I have so much work to catch up on- it would be a big help!!! X

wishfulthinking1 Sun 13-Jan-13 19:35:39

Also, my sterilising set arrived today (ordered when someone up thread found a complete bargain on amazon- it's got so much stuff in it!!)

toobreathless Sun 13-Jan-13 19:35:57

DD was 8 lb 8 & wore 'newborn' for a month. I bought some vests in the Tesco sale & was looking at the newborn sizes thinking DD was never that small & she wasn't! Their 'newborn' is 7.5 lb so I got 'up to one month.'

Just beware washing everything in advance, we washed the bare essentials & then waited until DD arrived, we were given quite a lot so took a far amount of stuff we had bought back for refunds/exchanges. Couldn't have done this had it all been washed.

I am planning on packing my hospital bag at 34 weeks. Then I can spend 8 weeks packing and re packing before baby arrives at 42 weeks grin

On the subject of TENS, I found mine brilliant during labour. We had the Elle Babycare tens. I think it was about £60 to buy, I looked at hiring but you get a month and they send it at 37 weeks so we would have had to extend the hire as I hadn't had DD by 41 weeks. We worked out that if you had 2 babies it would pay for itself & then you can resell on eBay or to friends etc

We have been in London for DHs 30th birthday this weekend. We have had a lovely time. Peop have largely been very sweet offering seats on the tube (although I am perfectly able to stand & politely decline) it has been a lot of walking though & now having loads of Braxton Hicks.

However mentioned the Kiddicare 'just for bums' range they are very good we have used them for DD. Tesco have also just started doing 1 months worth on a big box & they are currently 50% off, been using them for DD to take to nursery & really pleased with them.

Just a work of warning for those in the SE/London in particular, when we lived there we chose our nursery & registered DD after my 20 week scan and we only just got a place! - I went back to work when DD was almost 13 months. Worth thinking about now.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 13-Jan-13 19:36:49

wishful a quick google confirms its an intramuscular injection, so basically it needs to go into a big muscle and your bum is your biggest muscle! So wear your best knickers! smile

toobreathless Sun 13-Jan-13 19:41:32

Essex I reckon one pack of size 1s and one pack of size 2s minimum. You can expect a newborn to get through 10-12 nappies in 24 hours and it's probably a good idea to have at least 5 days in. IMO you can't go far wrong with Pampers for a newborn then you can experiment with other brands once baby is here.

JaquelineHyde Sun 13-Jan-13 19:42:49

Evening you horrible lot wink

Thanks for the new thread edin

I have spent this morning in hospital after being temporarily blinded this with a brightlight flashing before my eyes. No protein in my wee thank goodness but my blood pressure is up and I have been told to rest and take it easy.

So this is just the cherry on the cake and DH and I have decided that I need to intermit for the year and go back next January to begin my placement. The decision has taken a lot of talking about today and I have cried my eyes out about it but it is done and I am going to sort it all out this week. So I suppose I am officially on maternity leave shock grin

I must head down to Sainsbury tomorrow and try and get some bargains. Thanks for the tip off ladies.

Hope everything is ok for Floss and that you are hanging on in there.

toobreathless Sun 13-Jan-13 19:50:10

JH well done for making the decision, you must feel relieved now it's all decided?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 13-Jan-13 20:13:14

Blimey Jacq! Scary times. Sounds like you've made the right decision, you need to look after yourself.

Rivergirly Sun 13-Jan-13 20:27:22

Hi all

Thanks or the sainsburys tip - I have joined today!! Asda also have their baby and toddler event from 17th Jan - had a leaflet in the post yesterday.

My next check up is at 30 weeks and I am also booked in for whooping cough jab at the same time - what is everyone's thoughts on this -?not sure whether I'm sure about it really?? I have a relative with epilepsy and apparently my mum was advised against us having the jab as babies for this reason but I actually had whooping cough at 3 weeks old anyway so do I not have immunity???

On the change bag front I have the Skip Hop Dash bag - had for my ds's and it was fab - loads of pockets and storage for bottles etc and still looks like new!!

26 +3

Nordicmom Sun 13-Jan-13 20:33:04

Hi All!
I just wanted to pop in and say hi ! I was on the April 2012 thread and can't believe DD is already 8 1/2 m and crawling and cruising etc. Good luck to everyone smile ! It goes very quickly specially if you have older children...

Jsa1980 Sun 13-Jan-13 20:38:17

Whishful - I had my anti d last week, in the top of my thigh (wasn't given a choice) stings a bit but nothing major.

Mama1980 Sun 13-Jan-13 20:54:09

Hi everyone, I'm me again! I can't believe I can write on here again it feels like something normal I can do. How is everyone? Thank you s much for all the messages and support smile
Floss I'm thinking of you and have everything crossed your babe stays put if you need anything at all just say the word.
Jacqueline I hope you are feeling better now the decision is made and physically feel better soon.
Alexander is doing great, I got to have my first kangaroo cuddle yesterday! it was amazing, I was so scared that i would feel disconnected but it was amazing, he is so beautiful. He s my baby and I thought my chest would burst holding him, I know him you know? I ended up crying hysterically and feeling very silly for worrying. He is now 2lbs 12oz which is great, he was only 1lb2oz when Born and they told me he wasn't even breathing. The drs have been amazing, totally wonderful, say he is doing as well as any 24 weeker they have seen. He has started wriggling so much they have had to sedate him so he doesn't pull out the tubes, they have reduced his 02 slightly and best of all the scan so far has shown no brain bleeds. smile I can't believe it I literally can't believe it.
I don't remember much after writing my last update on here really, which feels surreal. I remember being monitored then
Pain, a lot of pain, sharp like my stomach ripping, seeing blood and then there were doctors everywhere. I only remember the pain after that, they tell,me my placenta ruptured and they had Alex out in 6 minutes but then they couldn't control my bleeding. To be honest i cant talk about me at the moment, my body doesn't feel likely own but my children do so I'm ok. The drs tell me shock is normal and I have seen a counsellor but right now I only want to talk about my babies.
My dd was in a awful state when I first saw her she screamed and screamed, and cried. I feel so helpless, its gonna be weeks before I can get up. Then she told me about how supportive her boyfriend has been who I then cried all over yesterday trying to thank him. I'm pretty sure I will be winning embarrassing mum awards.
I'm not sure if I'm making sense here, sorry if I'm not, I feel strange but very very lucky. My thoughts don't seem to make sense all the time though.
I will check in tomorrow if I can, the drs have promised me I can keep my ipad so long as I don't tire myself. I am having to drink these awful build up drinks, I have another coming round soon, hoping for banana flavour smile

JaquelineHyde Sun 13-Jan-13 21:03:07

MAMA YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, so glad to see you posting again. Thank you for getting your sister to update us whilst you ahve been so poorly.

Congratulations on your beautiful babay boy grin grin grin

It is so glad to hear from you, I shall resist from asking a million questions as I don't want to tire you out or ask you to think about things you aren't ready for yet. All I will say is that you are bloody amazing and deserve to have the most incredible 2013!!

If you are up to it could you PM me with details of which hospital you are in and the ward etc. Obviously you don't have to if you wish to remain incognito.

Here have a very un MN ((((((((((((((HUG))))))))))))) grin smile grin

ratbagcatbag Sun 13-Jan-13 21:03:55

Yey. Mama I'm so so pleased, we've all been keeping you in our thoughts. smile

Good luck to floss too smile

Gutted about Huggins leaving uk market, I wanted to try their newborn range but don't want to get stuck on so something that I then can't get.

ratbagcatbag Sun 13-Jan-13 21:06:12

Do we want a closed fb group as well as this board? Happy to set one up if anyone thinks it would be useful? Just remembered a long time ago I said I'd do that. Baby brain.

EssexWelsh Sun 13-Jan-13 21:15:05

I would definitely join a Facebook group, been loads of times I've seen things I've wanted to upload pictures of!

EssexWelsh Sun 13-Jan-13 21:15:49

Eek and Mama amazing news, keep up your energy and amazing spirit and you will be brilliant!

Trishstar Sun 13-Jan-13 21:27:40

A fb group would be great! Names to faces is always good! Xx

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 13-Jan-13 21:27:40

Mama how lovely to see you! Glad to hear you're making progress. I can't imagine how it's been for you but I'm delighted that you got a cuddle and that Alexander is gaining weight. He must be so tiny still?! But I think what the docs are saying is really encouraging. Tell the nurses your preferences for the build ups (Fresubin?!) - if I know a patient had a preference I'll try to bring them that flavour and make sure we have plenty in stock!

Re nappies - my sister has a little boy (he's toilet trained now but) she said the Lidl nappies are as good if not better than the Huggies nappies.

KelleStar Sun 13-Jan-13 21:30:42

Halllooo Mama! Lovely to hear how you and Alexander are doing, much love to all of your family, it was great having your family updating us on both of your conditions. He sounds like he is doing well and working hard to get fit enough to go home. We are so very happy to see you posting again and talk about whatever you want (or don't want) we are here to lend a sympathetic ear.

Jacq: sorry to hear you were proper poorly and it's a hard decision to make, i am sure you will feel that it's the right decision soon, you and your baby's health is most important.

Wanted to add that, when signing up for all this mummy stuff they will send you lots of e-mails. I created a mummy e-mail address, just a free one, but means I can moderate some of the stuff coming through and it's not clogging up my usual inbox.

Trishstar Sun 13-Jan-13 21:30:46

Mama so happy everything is getting better for you both!!!

Sending love and hugs xx

damnitdamnit Sun 13-Jan-13 21:51:38

Just checking in and marking a place so I can come back and read later.

Missmuffet28 Sun 13-Jan-13 21:54:46

Wow so many posts since this morning! I just love love love hearing about everyone!

Mama glad things are looking up for you with the incredible strength you have shown so far I'm sure it will just be a matter of short time before you are back to yourself again and Alexander sounds amazing as do the rest of your dc's!

Jaqueline really sorry you have been poorly sounds quite scary, for what it's worth I think for your sake you have made the right decision it sounded like ALOT of stress on you, now you can sit back and relax for a bit when u need to the most! It'll all still be there waiting for you to get back into the swing of it in a years time smile

Argh the changing bag thing came up again! I managed to get dp's plain black freebie from boots baby club lol so just my girlie one to find there too many fab ones to choose from at this rate I won't have one at all!

Ooh and I'd be up for a Facebook group too!


birdbrain17 Sun 13-Jan-13 22:08:09

I haven't finished catching up on all the posts from today, sure I will have more to say when I do, but wishful just read your post, I also have anti-D tomorrow at the hospital, why on earth wouldn't it be in your arm?! you've really scared me!!!!and snap I am praying for a snow day would be lovely to have some time off, just had an email from school saying they will confirm by 7:15 on snow days if school is open or not, I still have hope....

birdbrain17 Sun 13-Jan-13 22:15:21

okay finished reading through, wishful forgot to say (baby brain) that we are also due date buddies, it's so exciting to be starting the final trimester!!!!

mama so so happy to hear from you that you and alex (good name choice, that's what my dh is called) are doing okay, take it easy and keep us updated


magictorch Sun 13-Jan-13 22:25:39

Woohoo Mama! So great to hear that you and Alexander are doing so well!! The strength you have both shown is truly inspiring.

Crossing all fingers and toes for Floss too and hoping all you ladies with PGP/SPD feel more comfortable soon. And Jac, what a scare. Hope you're feeling better now too.

I'd also be up for a closed Facebook group, great idea Ratbag

Got my 28 week midwife appointment tomorrow, that's if I haven't buried DH under the patio for eating the entire box of special biscuits given to me at Christmas. I didn't even get one sad. No court in the land would convict me, right?!

Thanks for all your comments on the last thread about possible names. Still dithering on boys names though, mainly because DH hates everything and I'm not in love with the one name he's suggested.

Hope you all have a good week and avoid snowmageddon!


HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 13-Jan-13 22:27:09

bird it would hurt like hell in your arm! Most arm injections go into the fat. Much kinder to go in your leg/arse!

EmpressMatilda Sun 13-Jan-13 22:51:06

Just marking my place. All well here.

Good luck floss

enjay0811 Sun 13-Jan-13 23:15:29

So good to hear from you mama. Come and talk about as much or as little as u like on here, sure I'm not the only one who finds u an inspiration and looks forward to hearing how u and Alexander r gettin on!

Jacq glad you've made such a difficult decision now, must b a weight off ur mind. Look afta urself x

Sorry to hear bout all those suffering with spd etc, makes my sciatica n achey bk sound a walk in the park! blush

Must give the lidl nappies a try too afta everyone's positive comments..planned on using huggies again but tht's out the window now I guess!

Good luck to all those forecast bad snow fingers crossed for a day snowed in don't think we'll b gettin much in s wales so off to work for me! ...9 weeks, 4 days and counting....

Oh, def up for a fb group ratbag fab idea!


bext Sun 13-Jan-13 23:15:56

Wow what a day of news!

Mama so great to have you back online and so glad to hear Alex is putting on weight. I think we've all been thinking about you loads and wondering how you've been getting on.

Floss, good luck if things do happen with you.

And Jac, so pleased you've decided to give yourself some time out, even though sounds like the decision was forced on you a bit.

On changing bags, I bought a pacapod second hand off eBay before Xmas and am so pleased with it. It looks brand new, looks like it will hold loads and looks smart enough to replace a handbag. Felt very grown up hanging it on the pram and pushing it round the kitchen grin

And thanks for the sainsburys tips. I felt a bit strange in the queue with nappies in my trolley as it feels so early but can't resist a bargain!

Hope the snow isn't too awful for everyone.
And a Facebook group would be fab, thanks for offering to set it up smile

ILoveNoodles Mon 14-Jan-13 05:42:45

Just popping in to save my place on the new thread, and to wave to mama! X

ILoveNoodles Mon 14-Jan-13 05:43:52

Facebook did someone mention facebook....yes please.

Trishstar Mon 14-Jan-13 07:24:23

Daft question but do we pay tax/N.I.
on SMP or do you receive the full £135.40?


Fluffeh Mon 14-Jan-13 07:29:24

mama it's fantastic to hear you're on the mend and amazing that Alexander is doing so well!

On the nappies subject I've heard Aldi are meant to be pretty good? We were going to buy a small pack of those and a small pack of boots then buy extra if needed. I was thinking baby was going to be a decent size but from yesterday's mw appt I'm measuring so small I think she's going to be <7lbs meaning we'll have to wait a but longer to start with reusables.

Hope everyone had a good weekend and the snow isn't too bad, if your affected by it smile.

milktraylady Mon 14-Jan-13 07:32:25

I had a look at the finances, and unless I have it wrong, 12 months off work with smp gives around £9k. So that's under the limit to be taxed on. So we should pretty much take home all the smp.
Anyone else more financially savvy can agree??confused

I am so pleased Mama & Alex are doing well, I often think of you bothsmile

I had my first hypnobirthing session yesterday. Lovely lady, am now feeling maybe I can do this <scared> blush

bunnygirl80 Mon 14-Jan-13 07:52:11

Great to hear mama and Alexander are doing well

jaqueline glad you've made a firm decision about uni.

I went to test drive yet more double prams today and STILL can't make up my mind. I just don't think my ideal pram exists, as everything I've tried is a compromise somewhere. The one I liked most is well over my budget, but I've seen one nearly new just listed on eBay, so perhaps that's fate telling me to get it grin

Teapig Mon 14-Jan-13 08:38:08

So happy to hear from you mama. You and Alexander have been in my thoughts a lot, really glad to hear that you're both doing well. It sounds like a very traumatic experience so give yourself plenty of time to recover. Huge congratulations on your baby boy!

jaqueline, sorry to hear how poorly you've been. You've taken a brave decision and I'm sure it's the right one for you and baby. Time to start enjoying your maternity leave.

Ratbag thanks for offering to set up the facebook group, count me in.

KelleStar Mon 14-Jan-13 08:44:28

I thought I lost my post last night hmm glad it posted! Would be great to have a closed group for us.

Currently trying to build a tent for DD under the dining table.

Giddypants Mon 14-Jan-13 08:52:35

So great to hear from you mama pleased to hear both you and Alexander are doing well and on the mend

I'm up for a Facebook group, faces to names etc

SneezySnatcher Mon 14-Jan-13 09:06:03

Good to hear from you Mama. So pleased to hear you are both doing well.

It sounds to me you've made the right decision JH but I understand how hard it must have been.

Consultant tomorrow - let's see what he says!

JaquelineHyde Mon 14-Jan-13 09:26:53

Gah! Help me let my Mum down gently please sad

DH and I have decided this is for the best and I have sent the email off to my student advisor asking her to answer a few more questions and put the ball in motion for intermission.

However, my Mum just rang to ask how I am after yesterday and I just prattled on about how I had rested yesterday (and then slept in this morning) blah blah blah and completely avoided telling her about uni!

I said I was going to pop round this morning for a tea and so I need to tell her when I go. It's stupid but I'm bloody terrified about telling her because she wants me to push on through so much. I just want to make her proud and it's really upsetting me that she migh might be let down sad sad

Please help me tell her...God I feel like a bloody child again not a 34yr old mother of 3 (nearly 4)!!!!


Ollibobs Mon 14-Jan-13 10:14:33

Hi Jaqueline, I know it is hard to feel like you are letting your mother down, but you must remember that you are not quitting or giving up, you are just taking some breathing space temporarily. You fully plan on returning to your studies, so you are just taking some time to concentrate on your new baby during a very special, and tiring, time.
To be honest, I think while it was a very difficult decision, you might be reassured over time that it was the right one. Not only will it be kinder to your body and mind, but it will allow you more time to bond with your new baby. Plus, when you return you will be able to give your full attention to your studies - which in my experience, is difficult to do when you are tired and overwhelmed. I think you will find that you will have better results on your dissertation if you are not feeling rushed too.
I know it was a hard decision, but the only thing that matters is doing what is best for your family - your children, your husband and yourself.
You are only one woman, so please don't beat yourself up. You are doing the best you can, and that is all you can do...

bext Mon 14-Jan-13 10:57:38

FWIW I completely agree with ollibobs jacq

The only other thing I'd add is to be open with your mum that you're worried about letting her down. By bringing this out in the open she's more than likely to dismiss it (ultimately she'll want wants best for you). And if there is any chance that she feels let down, then at least she knows you recognise it and you've not made your decisions lightly.

Good luck smile

angeltattoo Mon 14-Jan-13 11:05:44

Hi All,

Marking spot :-)

Thinking of you Floss and hoping all is well.

I have washed the clothes I have got, as my mum gave me some over Christmas and they needed washing, so I did the lot together.

Then I started my baby bag for hospital with a huggies starter set, some vests and gros in various sizes, a blanket and a towel etc. I have one pack each of vest and sleepsuits for newborn, up to one month and 0-3 months. I am taking both newborn and up to one month to the hospital.

I have started to make a bag for myself too, just throwing things in as I buy them really, so have some toiletries, some knickers, some maternity pads etc.

A bit early perhaps, but I think the nesting instinct is kicknig in :-)

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 14-Jan-13 11:13:05

jacq just spell out to your Mum that you and your DH have decided this best for both you and the health of your baby. You tried to stick it out but it was putting you at risk. Then try the broken record technique where you just repeat the same phrase until the message gets through This is what's best for me and our baby!

I am so tired, turning round from nights. Not nice at the best of times but vile when pregnant!


Flosshilde Mon 14-Jan-13 11:29:03

Update for you all.

I am still here with regular contractions but they aren't getting any worse so labour is progressing very sloooowly. It looks like I'm going to be here until I have the baby, however long it takes. Tomorrow is my DS' due date (albeit 3 years on) so it would be ironic if this one made an appearance tomorrow.

I am caught between wanting all this to be over and wanting to stay pregnant for as long as possible to give DS2 the best possible start. I've made 29 weeks today at least. I am horrendously bored interspersed with a couple of hours of agony a couple of times a day.

Lots of ladies coming in, having their babies and going out again. We had a delivery on the ward as someone ramped up to 9cm in minutes and they couldn't get her to delivery on time. The baby crying made me cry!

Mama I'm really pleased to hear you're recovering and little Alexander is doing well.

Those of you choosing baby stuff the most useful things I bought were my iCandy peach, muslins (used for everything), a baby bath for in the bath and a steriliser. The only new stuff I'm getting this time is a new breast pump and a new change bag as my old one has fallen apart and I fancy a treat for me. DH and I both like a grey one we saw in JL so will probably get that one.

edinfirst Mon 14-Jan-13 11:52:40

Hi floss thanks for updating. I have been thinking about you loads and wondering how you are getting on. It must be very strange to be surrounded by other ladies having their babies while in your mind you are torn between wanting to meet yours as soon as and wanting it to cook a little longer. I am pleased that things are moving steadily and safely - and congrats on making 29 weeks, that is going to give your wee one a great start.

Also thanks for updating mama, it is so great to hear from you again and to hear that you are on the mend and Alexander continues to do so well. It won't be long and this will all just be another memory.

Waves to everyone else and wishes the week away to the weekend again...

lutrinae Mon 14-Jan-13 13:27:09

great to hear updates from Mama and Floss

wishful and birdbrain I am due date buddy too!

Facebook group sounds great to me. Think how lovely it'll be when we can upload all the baby pics as they arrive.

Lately I have been feeling sorry myself that I don't drive. Nor does DP and we simply can't afford lessons at the moment. Anyone else in the same situation? All the talk about car seats panicked me a bit. Will they let me go home from hospital in a taxi if I borrow one?!

Ollibobs Mon 14-Jan-13 13:27:42

Can't remember if we all knew this already, but Tesco is now having a baby event too... Started today...

Mama1980 Mon 14-Jan-13 13:34:44

Thank you so much everyone smile
Floss, glad to hear your at 29 weeks now am thinking of you.
I've just got wheeled back from visiting Alex, I got to have another cuddle. He wriggled like crazy as they moved him but when they put him on my chest and under my top I felt every muscle in his tiny body relax into me and his heart rate stabilised really quickly. I never wanted to let him go but he's doing so well they said he can come out of the incubator more often. He has a fierce little grip, you would never think something so tiny has so much strength I Had to prise his fingers off mine. Holding him my boobs starting leaking like crazy. The nurses have been expressing for me but it has to be thrown away because of the meds I'm on, being able t breast feed is a bit f a long shot but luckily for me they are totally supporting my desire to try at least. Does anyone know of anything natural I can take to help?
I'm due to see the physio later this afternoon to discuss my legs and hips. I am so envious u all talking about shopping but I am still getting paid (amazing boss triggered sick and maternity leave for me plus I have a phd grant which I am not planning to take too much more time off from-gonna kick my brain back into gear hopefully in the next week or two, well month but I'll give it my best shot sooner) so when I do get out of here I'm going to go crazy and buy everything! Does anyone know where my brother could go to buy tiny preemie clothes? Alex is wearing nothing but in the next month or so should be able to move out of the critical nicu but chances are even mother care neonatal will be big. He is all legs, arms and head, hardly any body at all bless him.
I hope everyone else is well will update soon xxx

JessieEssex Mon 14-Jan-13 14:18:29

mama it's so good to hear from you, and it sounds like Alex is going great guns. You should both be very proud of yourselves!

I've finally got some bits and bobs - don't need much as this is DC2, but MIL bought me a new Tummy Tub bath as the one we had before was borrowed (I really recommend these - DD LOVED it), blankets, vests and sleepsuits in neutral colours, new muslins and a pramsuit. DD is really excited and wants to unwrap them now (and presumably dress up her doll in them).

Baby was head up at my 28 week scan, but I think that it has moved as the kicks are now happening all over the place. Probbly not head down yet, but making its way down there!


toobreathless Mon 14-Jan-13 14:40:54

Mama just WONDERFUL to hear from you & that Alexander is doing so well. What a little trooper! I would love to send you a little something, can you PM me your hospital address? Wrt breastfeeding does your hospital have a specialised infant feeding co-ordinator/BFC for Neo natal? It would be a good idea to meet them now & they can start getting to know you & wee Alex so they can help you in the upcoming weeks and months as you both get a bit stronger.

Floss 29 weeks well done you! Baby stands such a good chance now.

Crazytictac Mon 14-Jan-13 15:29:25

Great to hear from you mama. Alex sounds a very special little boy, just like his mum! Hope the physio goes well. Am not really sure about premmie clothes although I'm sure I've seen some in Mothercare?

Good luck floss, must be worrying, but as another poster has said you've done well to get to this stage. Keep us posted.

Only a quick post but will try again later!

twinklesparkles Mon 14-Jan-13 16:00:20

Mama1980 hope you and your baby are ok <3

Mothercare do under 3lb and under 5lb clothes but are expensive

Have you checked if the ward do any clothes schemes or if there's any charities? I'm sure there are a few charities that help with that kind of thing but it would depend on your area ect smile

Hugs for floss also, hope things go ok smile

I'm 28 weeks now, still waiting for nesting to kick in so I can clean :P getting paranoid about how messy my place is... Its not that bad, I'm just hormonal smile dh and his friend took stuff to the skip a few days ago, so that's created more room and I've made 4 black bags of toys for charity shop. Its just a case of getting them there :/ need to sort more clothes and have another throw out ...

So much to do

Saw the baby on wednesday, had my last scan smile its still a girl ( Was beginning to worry about the amount of pink stuff I've bought) got all of my big stuff now, moses basket swing playmat pram ect. Got quite a lot of clothes. Need to get bottles and a breast pump maybe :/ but there's a local loan scheme here so might use that. Have cleaned out the steriliser and checked its working. Will prob start buying a few practical bits like nappies and creams soon

Hope everyones well

Anyone else getting braxton hicks?

somewherebecomingrain Mon 14-Jan-13 16:06:43

mama1980 just amazing to hear your story - am in tears esp about details like his heart rate slowing down and everything relaxing when you give him a cuddle. Little Alex sounds like one determined little boy and what a great mum he has. You will need to recover slowly and take your time - you deserve it.

I can't keep up with this thread (probably too old, I do better on the stately over-40s thread!) at all but your story shines through.


BonaDea Mon 14-Jan-13 16:07:55

floss - all the best and very very good luck. You are in the best place and being looked after, so I am sure everything will be just fine.

Absolutely shattered here. Head practically on desk at 4pm!


BonaDea Mon 14-Jan-13 16:09:20

oops - and mama - great to hear about you and Alexander, too. Sounds like he is getting stronger by the day.

edinfirst Mon 14-Jan-13 16:10:51

WRT premmie clothes, my mum knits for a charity (bonnie babies I think it's called) which John Lewis supports. They (or someone like them) would be able to help with some stuff, but I totally get that what you really want is to buy some lovely stuff for your little man - I will keep my eyes peeled while I'm out and about...

KelleStar Mon 14-Jan-13 16:29:53

Mama it's worth trying boots online as they do preemie with easy openings, very handy to fit around tubes. I think 3lbs is the smallest. Some big stores carry it in stock.

Flosshilde Mon 14-Jan-13 16:30:13

Mama - people bought me tons of prem clothes for DS but most of it was 5lb plus. The most gorgeous stuff was from Mamas and Papas (my v generous sister went and bought everything they had) but I also had bits from Mothercare and Tesco. I need to get it all out of the loft... well DH does.

There is tiny tiny baby stuff available online but some of it doubles as dolls clothes so check the materials aren't synthetic.

jj247 Mon 14-Jan-13 16:34:01

[mama] fab to hear from you and know that you and Alexander are doing so well. i had a quick google and came up with this site for preemie clothes and accessories (so cute!):
[floss] really hope your little one hangs in there a bit longer, must be terribly difficult to see other Mums come and go, but good to know you are in absolutely the best place and getting the best of care for when bump does decide to land!
[jh] congrats on making, what must have been a very difficult decision. Hope you managed to tell your Mum and she was supportive of the decision that you and DH have made. if your health had deteriorated then it could've really adversely affected your study as well as potentially harming you and bump, so draw strength from knowing you are doing the right thing (if it is any consolation i am 41 and still scared to tell my Mum things for fear of feeling a failure!)
[Olli] in case you are still looking for a belt, I got mine from Amazon. It isn't pregnancy specific but fits comfortably under my bump and effectively holds my pelvis together, i can't recommend it highly enough:
[ratbag] count me in for FB providing I can stay private as I've not gone public on FB with the pregnancy! Not quite sure why, just don't think it is any business of the world and I guess i worry about jinxing things even now, so the people that matter to me know, but not the "casual associates" smile

jj247 Mon 14-Jan-13 16:35:20

dammit, used brackets instead of asterisks.

mama, floss, JH, Olli and ratbag see above smile

EmpressMatilda Mon 14-Jan-13 17:38:39

mama That's so wonderful. I am surreptitiously checking this at work and had to wipe away a few tears when I read about you finally getting to hug your son which was a bit embarrassing!

Had 28 week appointment this morning. Everything fine and baby's heart beating away. Got to see doc on Fri about the thrush that probably isn't thrush and will get whooping cough jab then too.

DH has job offer and another interview on Weds for something else. smile

Going out for curry tonight. All is good with the world.


toobreathless Mon 14-Jan-13 18:15:30

Empress glad to hear about DH's job! Great news!

What a lovely day for this thread! Lovely news about Mama & our first April boy the precious alexander, floss got to 29 weeks, empress DH has a new job and my DH is 30 today and has had a white birthday! We took DD out in the snow, first time she's seen it, she is very cautious by nature like me & was happy to walk in it but not to touch it.

Also keen for a fb group.

28 + 3

Dysgu Mon 14-Jan-13 19:29:02

I have almost caught up with all the posts from the last couple of days but just jumping on to talking about preemie clothes mama

Do have a look made to order baby clothes free charity as they are just fabulous.

I know Alexander is not wearing anything but before you know it you will go down to see him and he will be dressed. I remember when it happened with DD1 and I cried - she started to 'look' like a little baby and not a bundle of wires! The NICU staff were wonderful too as they know it is such a big moment for parents. Pop 'n' grow is a charity based here on the Isle of Wight but they send made-to-order clothes all over the world and they do this for FREE - they will take into account Alex's size and any medical needs as you will need clothes that can be put on him without dislodging his wires or tubes. Normal preemie clothes, even for tiny or early baby, will just be small versions of 'normal' clothes (and even DD1 had to grow into them.

Also our NICU has a selection of baby clothes for the babies to wear - and they wash them there too! We donated a lot of our old stuff once DD1 was too big (and then borrowed some again when DD2 was in a couple of years later!)

ratbagcatbag Mon 14-Jan-13 19:55:28

Hi all

Will defo do a private group, not public smile

I'm just fed up today, it's my 30th birthday which I've been dreading, but everyone has made it amazing for me. I couldn't sleep last night after waking up at two am, works mental and I came home to the boiler broken, so no heating or hot water until at least weds and it's snowed all day.

Having a woe me moment and a little cry sad

JaquelineHyde Mon 14-Jan-13 20:03:32

Ha I am an utter coward and very nearly bottled it!!!

I was at my Mum's for hours we were chatting about anything and everything...We have a lot to talk about at the moment as my little sister is also pregnant and due in March but sadly she has severe mental health difficulties and has been sectioned on more than one occassion and due to this and other ridiculous choices she has made her baby will be removed at birth against my sisters will and placed with my Mum who will then apply for special guardianship of the baby....So yes lots and lots to talk about.

I was very happy with all the chatter but DH kicked me once or twice under the table to try and make me say something but I just couldn't.

So just when I thought we had better get going and I had gotten away with it DS walks into the kitchen and innocently announces in responce to someone saying how busy we all are that 'Yes but it's going to be much better for Mummy now as she doesn't have to go back to uni until after next Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!' shock grin

My Mum laughed a lot and kept saying thank you George for letting us know as I don't think your Mummy was ever going to let us in on her decision. She was fine about it all, said she thought we had made the correct decision and that all I need to do is say I'm on maternity leave like every other normal person and not feel like a failure at all!

So worrying over nothing again!!! I have a few appointments at uni tomorrow where I should be able to finalise everything and officially begin relaxing.

Teapig Mon 14-Jan-13 20:09:58

It's so lovely to read your update mamma. It sounds like Alex is getting stronger and stronger, hope you get tons more cuddles.

floss, I'm thinking of you. It must be really tough being on the ward while others come and go with their babies. Well done on getting to 29 weeks, that's quite a milestone.

lutrinae, I don't drive either and DH is in the process of learning. I doubt he'll pass by the time baby arrives and even if he did not sure how we'd afford a car and all the expense that comes with it. My parents live nearby so they will probably give us a lift back from hospital but I'm beginning to realise that not driving presents some big logistical challenges. We have a wedding to attend in July up north not sure how we will manage to get there on public transport with baby and all the stuff baby needs.

empress, great news that your DH has a job offer, that was quick! Enjoy the curry.

KelleStar Mon 14-Jan-13 20:14:06

JH out of the mouths of babes, eh? A relief, I am sure, for you. She sounds like she'll have her hands full.

KelleStar Mon 14-Jan-13 20:20:31

Lutrinae & teapig it is possible... not me... but friends who have moved local [rural] have only just started learning to drive and their DD will be one soon. The lived in Manchester before and it was simply easier to get public transport everywhere. They still get about on trains with ease, they've practice now. Plenty of time to get your packing skills sorted by July smile You can go in taxi's without a car sear and they will let you leave the hospital. Friends did buy a car seat as it was easier to strap DD in securely/safely and when travelling on the train, though they'd book an extra seat for long journeys/busy trains. I am impressed really as I carry a car load of crap that I probably don't need.

JaquelineHyde Mon 14-Jan-13 20:26:17

KelleStar My Mum has always had her hands full, I'm one of 7! grin

She now has a 4yr old and the baby to come. She is 62! I don't actually know how she does it. It's definitely not the retirement her or my Dad expected to be having I'm sure!

birdbrain17 Mon 14-Jan-13 20:27:28

Hi all, good to hear your updates jh well done for getting it out, so happy your mum is supportive. Had my 28 week appointment today, baby is measuring fine for dates and good heartbeat, I'm feeling really ill now though as had to have a blood test and anti-d injection. Bit upset as well as my midwife told me I won't be seeing her anymore as she's getting married at the end of the month and moving to surrey, really happy for her just upset that I won't be seeing her anymore she's great sad also they did a swab to check for thrush and a few other things but it came back all clear, which is good but now they don't know what the problem is confused

twinkle I think I've been getting braxton hicks but it's my first so not really sure what they are, I just keep getting a tightening right at the bottom of my bump and it's really uncomfortable for a few mins, I get it mostly if I'm walking around a lot or bending over. Is that braxton hicks?!

lutrinae <waves> Hi due date buddy hope you're doing well. I don't drive either, started learning but after I failed 2 tests we decided I should stop for a while as it was getting too expensive, hopefully after the baby is born I'll try again, it's so ridiculously expensive!!! where do you live?! do you have a good public transport network?


JoRich77 Mon 14-Jan-13 20:56:11

Hi all

Thinking of you 'mama' baby alexander, 'floss' and everyone else on here who is suffering.

I feel like i am some way behind most of you as only 25 weeks tomorrow. Looking for forward to midwife appoint on weds and hopefully hearing heartbeat again.

Today signed uo for Emmas diary as you get £150 worth argos vouchers of various baby things plus 3 sample packs you pick up from boots, I imagine a bit like bounty but not managed to get any of those yet as didn't get voucher from midwife.

Signed up for sainsburys club as the huggies free pack looked food in store.

Am after all the freebies I can get and will unsubscribe from all the emails later

angeltattoo Mon 14-Jan-13 21:04:12

Mama yay!!! thanks thanks thanks

Not much to report here, no new symptoms at all my nipples have CHANGED COLOUR oh my god

JoRich77 Mon 14-Jan-13 21:18:48

Oh I will get the bold names right one of these days smile

lutrinae Mon 14-Jan-13 21:46:30

angel it is weird huh? I expected them to get bigger but the colour change was a bit of a shock!

Thanks kellestar that is reassuring. birdbrain well we are in the same boat - twice! I live in London so luckily transport is good. What about you?
It's just a pain for trips like shopping, vets, picking up furniture & getting out of London. So I imagine even worse with a small one. Sadly no relatives live nearby.

Can anyone tell me if it's worth buying a baby birth? Our bathroom sink isn't big enough & the kitchen one is horrible. Are there any alternatives?

alwayshopeful13 Mon 14-Jan-13 21:54:29

Hello all,

Sorry for slipping into silence again. I do pop in frequently to see what's going on but I just can't keep up with this thread (or the previous one!) enough to get involved with the day-to-day developments, so apols as usual for not name checking everyone.

mama it is so fab to hear you and Alex are doing so well. You really are amazing.....your positivity and determination (and little Alex's) are just wonderful.

floss sending you all possible good wishes for whatever exciting adventures await. Glad to hear you are being well looked after.

All well here. Feeling (and apparently also looking) well....my boss told me today that I look 10 years younger (and it wasn't because she wanted something at the time!). I do feel way better after the horrendous nausea/tiredness that continued until 19 weeks.

Only vague concern is the potential growth issue they found at 20 (22) week scan - blood flow from me to baby lower than normal. Baby was right size then so trying not to fret. But I'm just a tad sensitive about people commenting that my bump is "neat" or "you really carry it very discretely." Grrr. But babs was also right size (admittedly be slightly approximate measuring tape test) at 24 week mw appt. Have next growth scan next week so fx all ok then.

On mat leave - my gameplan is to stop at 36 weeks or maybe a bit before if scans show up any problems. My boss is being awesome - v flexible and if I'm feeling ok and want to work a bit longer that's fine too. But I'll definitely aim for at least 2 weeks nesting time before edd.

Sorry for long post. Won't give the long update on my shopping so far except to say thanks for all the tips you about offers/discounts etc...v useful. If I find anything else that may be useful I'll definitely post.

The very best to everyone for whatever the next few weeks bring. I'll try to be more diligent on the posting front from now on x


Tifftops Mon 14-Jan-13 21:56:58

Hope all improves floss! Anyone else due 29 th??

MumofWombat Mon 14-Jan-13 23:38:31

I woke up at 5.30 this morning with the most excruciating leg cramp pain. I tried being silent so I didn't wake DH up, but that lasted about 10 seconds. After stretching out my foot, he went and got me a banana. He reckons that when he cramps when playing cricket if he eats a banana it subsides really quickly. And it did! So I thought I'd pass on the tip....

Trishstar Tue 15-Jan-13 00:04:46

Woohoo!! 3rd trimester now!



bunnygirl80 Tue 15-Jan-13 02:19:28

Good tip mumofwombat. I've been getting terrible leg cramps every morning for the last week. The other morning I was yelping in pain and thrashing around while DH merrily stayed fast asleep.....I reckon I could be in full on labour next to him and he wouldn't even notice hmm

Novia Tue 15-Jan-13 09:49:47

I don't know about anyone else - but I'm just shattered this week! I don't know if it's the start of the third trimester, or post Christmas blues, but the thought of 9 more weeks at work makes me want to cry! Finding it so hard to get a good night's sleep which doesn't help.

Had a midwife appointment last week and I'm measuring 3 weeks too big (but no issues with BP or urine so hoping it's not diabetes). I've put on a lot of weight, so perhaps just my tummy! I have to go back again next week to be checked and then maybe have another growth scan. sad

And I'm going to kill DH if he doesn't stop referring to my maternity leave as "9 months holiday!"

On a happier note, our nursery furniture arrives Friday - so we can start getting the baby room sorted. Also ordering the moses basket today to pick up on the weekend. Planning to pack my hospital bag on Sunday!

Sending love and positive thoughts to mama and floss!


BonaDea Tue 15-Jan-13 11:15:54

Novia - I'm with you. I am absolutely, postively shattered. I don't think I've ever been this tired in my life. I woke up briefly in the night last night (just to roll over I think) and this feeling of complete exhaustion washed over me - in BED, ASLEEP!! I also feel like crying when I consider working for another two months!

Your DH will soon realise that mat leave is not a holiday when the baby finally arrives and he realises the work involved. I once nearly killed the husband of a friend of mine who called her mat leave 'a career break'. FFS.


Novis and Bona, I'm shattered too. Am currently lying on the sofa unable to move, when am supposed to be wfh sad have no energy at all, but my iron levels are five. I keep getting told its because it's my second pregnancy and because I gave a toddler, he's at nursery though so not like I'm running round after him all day! Had bad insomnia for the last few weeks, git diagnosed with a uti last week so on antibiotics which are making me drowsy and lethargic. Can't win sad really really struggling. This is more than tiredness, am getting a bit worried that something else is wrong..... Only 25 weeks plus here too, do bit longer to go than you guys.


Missmuffet28 Tue 15-Jan-13 13:00:04

Hehe I came on to tell you guys I am sat here and my damn eyes won't stay open! I'm so tired!!! I can't wait to get iron levels checked last pregnancy I had to have supplements but still spent approx 16hrs asleep everyday towards the end so I hope it's not that again!! Thing with me is I fall asleep doing stuff I was scrolling through a page on the computer this time lol then my phone rang I woke up still scrolling!

My nursery furniture also coming at the weekend! Look forward to that! Must dash have a set of nails to infill in a minute and if I don't do something to wake up no doubt ill be asleep on her hands grin

ratbagcatbag Tue 15-Jan-13 13:04:50

Ok here you go for the FB group.

I have had to add my DH so it would let me create a group, as I don't know anyone else's real name yet, but I'll log onto his account later and reject the add smile

FB Group

It's a closed group and I've tried to not be obvious with the name, so it's MN April13ers - Over here!! Could be anything smile

I'll add if you request it. HTH

It's bloody freezing here with no heating working, gas fire is doing overtime, but the house is like an ice box.
My lovely boss has given me the day to do my promotional criteria so I can get a big payrise before I go on maternity leave.

ratbagcatbag Tue 15-Jan-13 13:05:43

29+3 eeeek

jj247 Tue 15-Jan-13 13:12:03

JH couldn't help but laugh when you related how DS spilt the beans on your behalf, but really pleased to know your Mum responded in the best possible way, what a wonderful relief for you and hopefully more confirmation that you have made the right decision.

Has anyone else started antenatal/NCT classes yet? They don't run them very often where we are, so we started last week as the next set of classes ran until 20th April and with EDD 22nd I thought that was cutting it a bit fine. If first class is to go by I'm really pleased we decided to go, the girl running the class is really relaxed and friendly, plus open to change what she takes us through to tailor the classes to our wants/needs and the other three couples seem really nice, relaxed and friendly. only downside for me is that they are all due the first 2 weeks in March so will be potentially "dropping" long before I do, whcih makes me feel a bit of an outsider. I guess if they are late and we're early it won't be that far apart and as DP says, at least we can learn from what they go through! the biggest thing I got out of class 1 is the importance of relaxing and keeping mobile during labour (all to do with adrenaline, oxtocin and endorphin levels keeping the labour on track and less painful) oh and not to lie on your back as there is less room for bean to get out as your tailbone tips into the way... all easier said than done no doubt, but think I may start listening to my hypnobirthing CD soon smile

I'm also v envious of all you guys getting your nurseries sorted. We are squeezing little bean in our box room which also houses my wardrobe and drawers as there is no room for them in our bedroom. At the moment it is also crammed with all my craft/dressmaking stuff too, so I started the mammoth task of sorting through it all at the weekend, (freecycle is doing very well out of me at the moment!) in an attempt to make some room for a cot and an armchair, my sewing table is already going to be the changing table! a friend is kindly donating a cot, but that won't be available until after Easter, so i feel a bit woefully under-prepared and like poor little bean is going to be squeezed into a tiny space... hopefully love will make up for sq ft! smile

jj247 Tue 15-Jan-13 13:14:04

ooh ratbag, excitement, I've just asked to join smile

ratbagcatbag Tue 15-Jan-13 13:20:33

You're in JJ - now I will stop MNetting and carry on with boarding - it's really stupid, I really am not motivated to do it, but they are pushing me, and it's one pack of info plus appendices and one presentation, for a massive payrise!!
C'mon motivation where are you?!?!

JaquelineHyde Tue 15-Jan-13 13:32:33

Hey ho everyone smile

It is official, I have signed on the dotted line and my maternity leave has now officially begun!!! grin

I have 2 essays due on Thursday that I just need to pop a mitigating circs form in for and then I can submit them both over the summer. Everything else is now on hold until January 2014!!!!!!!

I'm a little bit shocked it's all done to be honest with you.

Like the rest of you I am knackered at the moment, no matter how much I rest it just doesn't cut it.

Request sent to join the FB group. Yay.

ratbagcatbag Tue 15-Jan-13 14:39:06

Got an emergency appointment at 4, baby hasn't been moving since 6am this morning and I've rang hospital and they've booked me in. fingers crossed it's just sleepy as its cold in here.


JaquelineHyde Tue 15-Jan-13 14:43:44

Good luck ratbagcatbag I hope everything is ok. Try not to worry too much x

Ollibobs Tue 15-Jan-13 15:04:09

Good luck Ratbagcatbag! We will all be thinking of you and your little one.

Giddypants Tue 15-Jan-13 15:16:25

ratbag good luck, try not to worry xx

Crazytictac Tue 15-Jan-13 15:20:43

good luck ratcatbag. I had this with my DS and all was fine, sometimes they just have very lazy days like us. Good to get it checked out though.

Mama1980 Tue 15-Jan-13 16:05:51

Very tired today. Just want to say still thinking of you floss and I hope everything is well ratbag, got my fingers crossed for good news from you both.

usernamegoeshere Tue 15-Jan-13 16:34:43

ooooh new thread! I been a bit behind this week.

I seem to have gotten over my entering the 3rd trimester mental slump now. Physically feeling better & have gone back to worrying time is going too fast rather than being pregnant forever!

Saw consultant this week, there is still white blood cells in urine (3rd time in a row now) but no infection, so he wants me back in 2 weeks. My iron was also pretty low again but that is more poor management on my behalf than a real problem.

I have Glucose tolerance on Friday, going to have to find a good book for that one!

Ratbag I hope your appointment is reassuring, its scary being pregnant really, glad they that fit you in so quickly.

Floss I hope everything is ok with you & keeping eyes out for updates!

Mama glad to see you back & getting cuddles! It was really great of your sister to update us while you were too poorly, I hope you tell her thank you as we would have been out of minds worrying by now!

When do we start raspberry leaf tea stuff btw? Is it soon?


toobreathless Tue 15-Jan-13 16:36:03

Good luck ratbag I also had this with DD & all was fine.

SneezySnatcher Tue 15-Jan-13 16:55:08

Good luck Ratbag I had this too.

My consultant appointment wasn't great. Now have +protein so got to go back Friday and have a scan on 29th. I've been given aspirin to start taking.

MumOfTwoCats Tue 15-Jan-13 17:33:17

Good luck ratbag. Hope all.is well.

I'm home resting as i have a throat infection. I was signed off last week and made it in yesterday and this morning. Such a sore throat! I can't feel too sorry for myself as others have it much worse!

Everyone told me to go home.Luckily its office based so I'm keeping an eye on e-mails on the sofa with my cat.


ratbagcatbag Tue 15-Jan-13 17:57:43

Hi all

Everything fab, as soon as monitor went on for trace it kicked loads. smile

MumOfTwoCats Tue 15-Jan-13 18:00:19

Excellent news!

ratbagcatbag Tue 15-Jan-13 18:04:15

Awe mumoftwocats hope you feel better soon.

I'm going to do some more work on my promotion thing tonight to see if I can at least get version one ready for tomorrow. It takes four weeks min to prep and organise the panel so really need to get moving to get it in and done before I go off on maternity. -2 here now, no heating really is a nightmare. Hope it gets fixed tomorrow.

edinfirst Tue 15-Jan-13 18:08:45

That's great news ratbag, and it's reassuring to know how quickly they can fit you in if there are any worries-so nice to not have to be scared to phone if there are any concerns.

Thanks for setting up fb group too, will be so nice to put faces to names smile

jojo2509 Tue 15-Jan-13 18:37:21

Hi - first time I have posted on here....27+4 and only starting to really think about the fact i am going to have another baby soonish! so fat nothing sorted!! Have already got 2.5 yr boy. Just looking for some friendly support and share experiences! Is anyone on here thinking of having 3rd trimester private scan?

toobreathless Tue 15-Jan-13 18:52:44

JoJo Hi! I am also expecting my second, DD is 21 months. Do you know what you're having? I don't think we will have a private 3rd trimester scan, we didn't with DD.

ratbag glad all ok.

KelleStar Tue 15-Jan-13 19:09:43

ratbagcatbag typical. I remember drinking such ice cold water my teeth were in hell and no movements, but a glass of cold tap water at the MWLU got them moving. But it's best to get it checked out.

hi jojo I'm also on DC2, DD is 2 and a full on bouncing off the walls toddler. I have a third trimester scan coming up in a few weeks to check growth as DD was a small baby that was overdue and I've a slightly overlying placenta. Welcome.

signed up for the FB group.

jojo2509 Tue 15-Jan-13 19:32:49

thanks too breathless and Kellestar - know that I am having a girl which is lovely! Part of me wants another scan just to be sure before I go and buy a load of pink stuff though!!

Ratbag - I have requested to join your facebook group too! So lovely the support you girls are giving each other. I forgot how stressful and exhausting being pregnant is!

wishfulthinking1 Tue 15-Jan-13 19:50:37

Phew ratbag so glad everything's ok. No energy to write more now.... It's nearly 8 so I'm off to bed! Night all! Yes yes- everyone who's knackered- I agree with you- never been so exhausted!!!

lutrinae Tue 15-Jan-13 19:55:45

I've just asked to join the FBI group too.

Anyone else feeling so big and stretched and tight it seems impossible to get any bigger? I swear there's no room left, and baby'll just pop out like Alien!

lutrinae Tue 15-Jan-13 19:56:30

I meant the FB group of course. I don't want to join the FBI just now.

ratbagcatbag Tue 15-Jan-13 19:57:05

You're all lovely - thanks for the kind messages, it's so nice to be able to just say what I want and you're all supportive, I only told one RL friend as word gets out otherwise and people are constantly ringing etc, which is fine when everything is fab, but I would imagine awful if not.

I am starting to get tireder (is that a word) a lot earlier now. Going for a day trip to London next weekend, so need to perk up a bit!

Trishstar Tue 15-Jan-13 20:00:04

Thanks for the fb group xx just asked to join xx

MrsSimkins Tue 15-Jan-13 20:07:52

Hi All,
wow another group I really can't keep up but just had a quick read through. Well done mama so glad to hear you and Alex are doing well. floss thinking of you, sounds like you're being well looked after though so fingers crossed. ratbag so glad baby was just scaring you. I had a panic last week that I hadn't felt much movement so I had a glass of orange juice and a creme egg (oops) and laid down on my back, a website I looked at said if i do this and get at least 6 kicks in an hour not to worry, I got 6 kicks in about 20mins which totally put my mind at rest.

I feel like everyones been telling me how huge i look lately and that I cant possibly still have 3 months to go and how April is still ages away. Its really getting on my nerves because i'm measuring bang on and 3 months is not time at all!?!

Hope everyones keeping well and getting excited that we'll soon be hearing about more lovely babies like Mamas from this thread!


toobreathless Tue 15-Jan-13 20:35:58

lutrinae I would like to join the FBI, not sure they would have me though grin

magictorch Tue 15-Jan-13 20:38:47

Thanks for the Facebook group, just joined smile

magictorch Tue 15-Jan-13 20:43:06

Can also relate to tiredness. Have 6 hours of driving over next two days for work as well. No wonder BP was up at 28 week appointment yesterday!


miarosemum Tue 15-Jan-13 21:01:12

Hey all, Been a while since posted bug so glad to hear great news about mama and Alexander, also floss fingers crossed all goes well for you and 29 weeks is a good stage to be at. I had a small drama last week and got smashed in the back of my car and seat belt went in with some force to my bump. Baby was monitored on ctg machine for a while and had to go back Saturday for more monitoring but baby was all happy and moving around. Like the midwife said baby is very well cushioned inside but still was worrying obviously! Had 28 week appt today and baby is head down and measuring spot on for due date which is good. Off to join the fb group now which is a great idea!

miarosemum Tue 15-Jan-13 21:07:42


alwayshopeful13 Tue 15-Jan-13 21:17:41

miarose sorry to hear about your drama-great to hear all is well with you and the little one. Take care of yourself.

ratbag great you've had the reassurance that is everything is fine. What a relief.

Just back from my second week of pregnancy yoga-loving it!

miarosemum Tue 15-Jan-13 21:23:07

Thanks always. Can't believe we are entering third trimester ! 12 week countdown has begun shock!!

alwayshopeful13 Tue 15-Jan-13 21:29:55

I know miarose the time is just flying by. I can't believe it's only a week and a bit until the 3rd trimester starts for me. It's funny to think back to the early weeks when time went SO slowly!

SneezySnatcher Tue 15-Jan-13 21:41:04

Just done FB request!

Teapig Tue 15-Jan-13 22:45:04

So pleased that everything is ok ratbag. I had the same with lack of movement a couple of weeks ago and so glad I got it checked out, it's not worth the worry.

I've asked to join the FB group too, looking forward to putting faces to names.

I had an MW appointment today so booked the day off, lovely hearing baby's heart beat. Afterwards we went to Ikea and got some stuff for the nursery, can't want until DH has finished painting and we can assemble the furniture.
I've been trying to buy purely practical things but I caved today and bought this lovely giraffe wall hanging: www.potterybarnkids.com/products/girls-safari-canvas-art/?pkey=bnew-baby-arrivals-accessories Hoping the sonographer was right that it's a girl as it's a bit too pink for a boy.

bunnygirl80 Wed 16-Jan-13 03:57:20

Glad all was well ratbag. I've requested to join the fb group.

Just waiting to go in for my 28week appointment. Am hoping they'll be able to tell baby to move herself out of my stomach so I can eat more than a mouthful without feeling sick grin

ILoveNoodles Wed 16-Jan-13 03:58:12

I've also requested to join fb.

Fluffeh Wed 16-Jan-13 07:14:53

Wow so many posts since my last visit!
I've requested to join the fb group too, thanks for setting it up rat bag smile.

I went back to the gp yesterday with the acid heartburn and she prescribed rantinidine (may be spelt wrong lol). Hopefully that will work over the next few days. She said not to take it with any other medication as it can hinder the absorption of them. Especially iron.

Finally going baby toiletries shopping tomorrow. We're only intending to buy what's needed but I could do with a bit of help please. So far i think we'll need - nappies, cotton wool, sudocream, nappy sacks and some kind of baby bath product? Does that sound ok? I don't want to forget anything and were really limited money wise so I'm having to buy things each week to try and get everything in time.

Trishstar Wed 16-Jan-13 07:34:28

Much less movement from yesterday night, going to ring triage in a bit and see what they say. How do they check everything is ok at hospital? xx

SneezySnatcher Wed 16-Jan-13 08:44:46

Hope all is well Trish. At my hospital they will just listen for the heartbeat before 28 weeks. After 28 they will put you on a trace machine, which straps to your bump and monitors you for about half an hour. It picks up heartbeat, movement and any contractions IIRC.

Trishstar Wed 16-Jan-13 08:51:15

Thanks for replying sneezy. I am 27+1 and I have a good quality Doppler. HB was absolutely fine last night and this morning.

bunnygirl80 Wed 16-Jan-13 09:44:20

fluffeh I wouldn't bother with baby bath stuff. They don't really need it when they're tiny. I bathed DS in plain water for about the first six weeks. If money's tight then it's really something you can do without.

miarosemum Wed 16-Jan-13 10:10:56

I have requested to join fb group too smile

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 16-Jan-13 10:31:25

I have also requested to join!

Will try to be specific where I can - glad things are ok ratbag. Hope the hospitals reassure you trish.

Thinking of Mama and Floss.

I am in the exhausted camp. Work yesterday was really tough! Physically (got some heavy patients who need lots of attention) and mentally - had a newly qualified nurse and a student nurse so I was teaching virtually all day!). Enjoying a day off today and off into town I need bigger knickers, tell me I'm not the only one?! and off to see Quartet smile


Trishstar Wed 16-Jan-13 10:33:56

Thanks HALFB.

Just en route to hospital now will update in a bit!

Hope little man is just being lazy x

edinfirst Wed 16-Jan-13 10:50:41

FX for you Trish

JessieEssex Wed 16-Jan-13 11:17:02

FX trish.

I'm also exhausted - about an hour after waking up I'm dying to go back to bed again. Not chance of that happening with a toddler in tow (and a non-napping one at that!)

DD wet the bed for the first time in ages last night so I was up with her at 2.15 and then the baby started doing somersaults when I went back to bed. Combined with a snoring DH....

Does anyone else have a really really itchy tummy? The skin is red and looks like its covered in tiny thread veins, particularly in the evening, but then seems fine by the morning. I'm not worried about it in a medical sense, but it's soooo uncomfortable. I don't remember this with DD. I am depleting the UK stocks of Bio Oil!


JessieEssex Wed 16-Jan-13 11:18:52

ps have requested to join FB group...

Trishstar Wed 16-Jan-13 11:43:03

Thanks ladies! Just grabbing some food and heading back to work!

Took a little while to get HB but they found it and he kicked the Doppler away!! little bugger!!! had to be seen by midwife and 2 doctors but they said any more reduced movements even for few hours that I should just come in and they can scan to check everything is ok.

Teapig Wed 16-Jan-13 12:41:52

Really pleased that everything seems ok trish. Hope baby was just having a lazy day and you don't have to go back.

The movements I feel are still very sparodic but as long as I feel them every day then I think it's ok. Every little bean is different and I guess mine is on the lazy side, must take after DH!

Teapig Wed 16-Jan-13 12:42:24

Oooh 27 weeks today, hello to the third and final trimester!

steph2412 Wed 16-Jan-13 13:41:14

Glad all is ok Trish i am getting a bit nervous for my scan on tuesday hoping pkacenta has moved up!on a happier note i am nearly finished baby shopping got 400 pampers nappies size 1 & 2 loads of wipes and all other essentials! were paying some more off the pram this week which will only leave £80 to pay!im starting on getting things for my hospital bag this week there really isnt that long left and with the 2dcs already at home i want to be as organised as possible! Hope Floss Is ok your in my thoughts x

itsaruddygame Wed 16-Jan-13 14:37:54

Glad all OK ratbag and trish!

Great to hear from Mama in person and so fantastic that Alex is doing so well. It seems he was determined to join your family from the start Mama!

Good luck Floss - hope the little one is staying in for a bit longer.

I am also having a quiet day with movements although I think he has moved and that is why they are not so strong. I have an anterior placenta and sometimes he is positioned so that I feel him very strongly but other times not so much. I am getting weaker movements but deeper and towards the back. I will have a rest and snack when I get home and see if anything changes.

I was also told I had Leukacytes in my urine this week but have to wait for a few days for further results. Anyone else had this?

Other than that I have been really busy - ante natal pilates on Monday, Aquanatal last night and the last 2 saturdays we have been on a hypno birthing course (2 more weeks to go). My mind is racing a bit as time is ticking on and I dreamt that I had him but forgot to feed him and that I was carrying him around in a basket wrapped in tea towels as I had not had chance to buy anything - oh dear!! grin

birdbrain17 Wed 16-Jan-13 15:20:43

lutrinae I'm also in london so got a good network of buses and tubes but I find it's so expensive public transport, I guess if I was driving petrol is also a lot of money....

jessie I sympathise about the itchy tummy, I also have that, funny hadn't noticed but now that you mention it, it is worse in the evening...

Had a call from the midwife today with the results of my 28 week blood test, my iron levels are just about okay so she told me to eat more iron rich foods, but they want to do another test because my platelet levels are low. I did a bit of googling to find out what this means and I'm really scared it could be a sign of something quite serious, has anyone else ever been told this?!


Flosshilde Wed 16-Jan-13 16:36:49

Hello everyone and thanks for all the kind thoughts - it's worked as baby has stayed put and I have been discharged for now so I have just got back home. The contractions have stopped and my cervix has reclosed, something I didn't think was possible but apparently it is. It is still very soft and they are not expecting me to make it anywhere near term and I am to go straight back in if my contractions restart.

At the moment my main source of discomfort is the bloody thrush I have got due to the antibiotics! They have given me cream and a pessary for that.

I am back at home and have decided to take my annual leave and then go on mat leave as I have been told to rest. It will be very tedious if baby hangs on in there till due date (extremely unlikely though) but has to be the right decision.

SneezySnatcher Wed 16-Jan-13 16:47:22

birdbrain my platelets are low too. They were low end of normal (but still normal) at booking and have dropped (wasn't told new level).

It's fairly common in pregnancy and it won't cause a problem unless they get really low (50 I think) in which case you can't have an epidural and may need a section. It can just be that your platelets get bigger in pregnancy so there are less of them but still doing the same job IYSWIM?

I'm not concerned and neither was my consultant. I have restarted my pregnancare though as it can be a sign of vitamin D/ frolic acid deficiency.

Were your levels ok at booking?

SneezySnatcher Wed 16-Jan-13 16:47:46

folic acid!!

birdbrain17 Wed 16-Jan-13 17:13:14

sneezy thanks that's really reassuring. I think they were okay at booking, no comment was made then so I assume they were. I don't take pregnacare as swallowing tablets was making me throw up but I have vitamin d and folic acid liquid supplements that I keep on forgetting to take, I'll have to try harder to remember now that you've told me that....

SneezySnatcher Wed 16-Jan-13 17:26:09

No problem! I did worry slightly but then thought if they were fine at booking then it was just a pregnancy thing. Everything I've read seems to confirm this. They are going to test them again in a few weeks though.

Mama1980 Wed 16-Jan-13 17:47:51

Great news floss-have been watching out for your update. How are you feeling? Thrush is bloody miserable I hope it clears up soon.
I had another cuddle today, Alex is getting stronger by the day according to the drs. I cannot Imagine how I got so lucky smile
I have seen and spoken to the lactation consultant several times and am pumping all the time now I am more awake even though it means throwing it all away. I cannot believe I miss the hell of the expressing room as I called it with ds1 but need people to talk too, real ones not just nurses who though lovely are focused on keeping me calm they seem to think I will break if they give me a straight answer. I'm not complaining at all and am very very grateful but I'm ok. One look at Alex and I'm more than ok smile
I still feel likei am trapped in a strangers body i feel very disconnected from it, which may be good given the state of it right now. I am dreaming of a long hot shower though.

EssexWelsh Wed 16-Jan-13 19:54:42

Great news Floss who knew your cervix could reclose, how amazing is the human body!

Also lovely to hear your updates Mama, so good to have your brilliant updates now! Hope your body catches up with your mind now grin


EmpressMatilda Wed 16-Jan-13 20:39:37

Great news floss and mama

Sneezy I totally want some of that frolic acid. It sounds fab grin.

Still got the bizarre and irritating itchy/dry/swollen 'down there' problem. Could be thrush but have had that before. Don't think it's the same thing but is just as bad. Also got red blotches on my left thigh.

I will raise it all with the doc on Friday but TBH I am now viewing anything unexplained my body does with mild indifference. I just attribute it all to 'general pregnancy weirdness'! Yes also to the itchy tummy and itchy breasts. It's itch central here really. How lovely!

Hope you are all OK. I might get over my shyness and join the FB group. Wasn't going to 'out' myself but am just too nosy to miss out on everyone else!

enjay0811 Wed 16-Jan-13 23:31:40

Joined the fb group! Will have to figure out who is who now or perhaps post our usernames on fb. Can we do tht?!

Glad babe is hanging on in there floss

Have felt rotten today, headache, shattered, felt sick, so been in bed since 9 watchin obem and discovery health baby programmes! Makes it all so more exciting knowing tht we'll meet bumps soon! grin


aufaniae Wed 16-Jan-13 23:35:01

Wow, things have moved on lots!

Mama, so good to hear from you, and that you're both doing so well. Thanks for getting your sister to update us too, we were all worried and I'm sure the others would agree, it really did mean something to us that you got her to update us, even though we're just a random bunch of strangers on the internet! Even DP was waiting for news of you too. I hope you're not too bored in between your visits to Alex.

Floss, I've never heard of that either, well done your body! Hope you manage to enjoy your extra time off (the calm before the storm?)

Jaqueline, I know it's not what you wanted, but I'm actually quite relieved to hear you've intermitted. Much less stressful! I'm sure you would have managed it, but uni stress and young children is a tough combination! (Sorry, I know I'm stating the obvious!). I hope you're enjoying the time off.

Have sent FB request. How strange to see people in RL! You're all real people, not just words on a screen, who would have thought it?! wink

Dysgu Thu 17-Jan-13 00:44:13

Hello everyone.

I have also clicked to join the FB group ratbag

Glad to read that things have stopped flossie and that you have been discharged.

Lovely to read updates about you and Alex Mama - hope things just keep getting better and better for both of you. Well done for continuing to express, it must be extra hard when you are having to throw it away but at least it will keep the supply up for when Alex and you are ready.

Regarding moving - there have been times today when I have wanted this bump to stay still - I think it has sharp toe nails or something as it has been stabbing me when it kicks. I was watching my tummy bounce about this afternoon - the kids in my class are going to be spotting it soon!

Only 22 more working days until I start my ML- and there is half-term in the middle of that too so I get a break with my DDs before I actually finish. I am not sure I am looking forward to the school run each day but I am sure I can get a waddle on!

I was exhausted earlier - DDs had a party to go to at a soft-play place and I was nearly asleep there. Then I had a bit of a catnap for 20 minutes when putting DDs to bed and now I am wide awake again and will have to tell myself to go to bed soon as I have to be up at 6am (and DP might wake me when he gets up at 5am!)

DancingLola Thu 17-Jan-13 01:38:50

Hi all, got a bit lost trying to find this new thread! Have sent request through for fb group too. Hopefully I'll be able to keep more up to date on there, I always seem to be on FB.

Not much to report here, I bought a moses basket & stand as argos had some on sale. Came to just over £30 in total so was quite pleased with that smile Am planning to have it downstairs in the living room, think it will come in handy when I'm getting DS ready for school in the mornings - I've got a swinging crib for the bedroom but still need to get a new mattress & bedding. Keep looking at more things to buy, but waiting until DH gets paid (this month seems so long as he was paid early in December!) Been looking at baby clothes & thinking they look so small! DS was 8lb 8oz & newborn did fit him for a month or so, but I think I'm going to get mainly 0-3 months for this one as I have a feeling he will be bigger. So far I've only bought some sleepsuits, vests & socks.

Been feeling really tired the past few days, not been able to sleep until 3/4am & my energy is just nowhere to be found! I'm hoping it will pass. Baby is very active at night too, so I go to bed & it feels like he's dancing a conga! Am wondering if I might be a bit anaemic, so may get some iron supplements & see if that makes a difference to the tiredness. In a way I'm relieved I finished my contract last month, there's no way I could work like this!

Mama1980 Lovely to hear how things are with you & baby Alex, and Flosshilde glad to hear baby is staying put for the moment!

Right, off to try & get some sleep now.

Fluffeh Thu 17-Jan-13 07:01:26

Aww fantastic news floss. Hopefully baby will stay put for a few more weeks.

Lovely to hear how well you and Alexander are doing mama.

I have no idea what I've done to it but my hip is evil. It started yesterday morning and really hurts if I put any weight through it or bend it while walking. I thought at first it may have been a trapped nerve but its hurting more today than yesterday sad.
I have loads to do today so I can't rest it, but if its still the same tomorrow I'll have to cancel shopping and go see a gp. It's like I live there atm lol.
Had to walk to Tesco yesterday and it must have been a funny sight for people. DP was trying to support me as I walked but because of my guide cane he just kept getting hit on the ankle lol.

Loving all the bump photos on the Facebook group. I find it harder to use Facebook than mn so may still stick to posting here more than there smile.

Teapig Thu 17-Jan-13 07:55:40

So great to hear that you and Alexander are getting on well mama.

Floss, it's great that baby is staying put a bit longer. I had no idea the cervix could re-close, the body is truly amazing.

I keep waking up wide awake at 4.45am and toss and turn for ages trying to get back to sleep. Then when my alarm goes off at 6.20am I find that I've fallen back to sleep and can't wake. It's a small thing but it's tiring me out especially as this week I'm working 8.30am-6.30pm and with my commute I don't get back until 8pm. DH is being amazing and doing all the cooking but I need the weekend now!

Hope everyone with discomfort has a better day today.

lutrinae Thu 17-Jan-13 11:48:31

Agree with the itching. It's itch city on my belly lately!

I slept all through the night last night without waking up once - not even to pee. It must be some sort of miracle.

Ooh, birdbrain whereabouts are you? I live in Walthamstow and work in Kew.

vivien14 Thu 17-Jan-13 12:58:35

Hi there, I'm a long time lurker on the site but thought I'd introduce myself and say hi! I'm suffering from a few things others have mentioned - particularly the insomnia, I just don't seem to be able to get comfortable enough to sleep at the moment!

Great to hear the good news about Mama's early arrival and that Floss's little one is staying put.


Cocochops Thu 17-Jan-13 13:01:19

Afternoon all. Haven't posted for a while. This thread moves so fast I find it hard to keep up!

Mama glad you and Alex are doing well and happy to hear baby floss has decided to stay put for a bit longer.

Counting down the days to mat leave now six working weeks with a weeks holiday week after next. Anyone else lost all motivation with their job?

We are moving next week can't wait to sort out the nursery and Dd room. I haven't bought a thing yet!

For those on number 2 are you getting a new matress for the Moses basket if you are re using it or just using the same one. Mine has a kind of plasticky cover o it's completely sealed not sure what he current advice is?

Also requested to join Fb

photochick Thu 17-Jan-13 13:04:03

Mama so pleased to hear your updates and hear that you and Alex are doing so well. We have been amazed at your strength and courage.

Floss its also great to hear that your baby has decided to wait a bit too!

I have had really itchy sides, goes away if I stick to an organic aloe vera shower gel. I guess my skin must just be hyper sensitive.

Had my 25 week appointment on Tuesday, all good and I am feeling very lucky (touch wood) that I have very few compliants to speak of. Plenty of issues with my DH family, that I shan't bore you with, but include my MIL turning round out of the blue and saying she is not now coming to see the baby because its "too difficult" which has left us all reeling. I know she has a lot on her plate right now and we are all getting over the loss of my FIL last October but it seems totally irrational and has left us very upset.

Hey ho, lovely to see you all on facebook and loving the bump pics! Not sure I want to post one as even my mother told me last night it was a strange shape shock. Think my yoga muscles, which are keeping it quite flat at the front, are going to have to give way at some point!!

Trishstar Thu 17-Jan-13 13:36:22

Welcome Vivien! x

usernamegoeshere Thu 17-Jan-13 13:56:56

welcome Vivien

Have requested to join FB group, thank you for setting it up!

vivien14 Thu 17-Jan-13 14:12:35

Thanks for the welcome! Just joined the FB group too x

photochick - sorry to hear that about your MIL, I hope she changes her mind over the coming weeks.

steph2412 Thu 17-Jan-13 14:40:22

Hi all i was seen shopping today and the lady said not long until baby now then when i said 13weeks she lookes shocked and asked if it was twins. i wouldnt mind but i have only gained 5lbs although i have lost weight off my bum hips etc. im ment to be having my gtt test tomoro but the snow had just started so i may rebook!ive been getting lots of aches and pains just been really grumpy in general!hope everypne is well x

usernamegoeshere Thu 17-Jan-13 15:27:33

Steph I'm having gtt in the morning, which reminds me I need to sort out a book to read. I hope it doesn't snow here, been quite lucky with it rest of week.

itsaruddygame Thu 17-Jan-13 15:53:01

Crickey lots to read since yesterday!

I have just been to get checked out at the local day unit as have had very little movement since yesterday. Thankfully all good - they think he is hiding behind my anterior placenta and that is why I can't feel as much as usual. He normally gives me a good kicking several times a day so was a bit worried but feeling reassured now! I also had my urine checked again and it was clear of luekocytes this time so that is one less thing to think about.

I feel sorry for those with aches and pains - I have been pretty lucky on that front and can't complain. I did have a bit of back pain but saw a maternity specialist physio who sorted me out pronto. If anyone is North West and would like her contact details let me know and I will PM them. She really is excellent and very tuned in to preggo ladies bodily changes as it were grin.

SneezySnatcher Thu 17-Jan-13 16:17:37

Hello all. I'm absolutely shattered! I really could cry. I love my job but spending time with thirty kids isn't exactly restful, despite the fact they are all lovely.

Got another hospital appointment tomorrow (second this week) to check BP and urine due to +protein. I'm pleased they are keeping an eye on it, but I'm finding it hard to enjoy this pregnancy with the extra worry of getting PE again.

Moan over!

ILoveNoodles Thu 17-Jan-13 16:49:28

Its so strange seeng all your faces on facebook!
cocochops I am using the same moses basket but have bough a new mattres.I would of bought one anyway but when I took the old one out of its covering it was quite dented-my son must of had a heavy heah!

ILoveNoodles Thu 17-Jan-13 16:50:11

head obviously!

ratbagcatbag Thu 17-Jan-13 17:35:36

Argh!! Had whooping cough jab last week, just had call from nurse, they used an out of date one on me by mistake so need another one in four weeks which puts me at the limit of 32weeks. It bloody made me sore as well and I'm worried that a double dose could be bad, as they ant guarantee that the first one won't work. sad gutted. Hate needles so much.

Will update fb group later when I've stopped stomping round. sad

steph2412 Thu 17-Jan-13 18:22:45

Ratbagcatbag i think the cut off is 38 weeks fx x

EssexWelsh Thu 17-Jan-13 19:52:03

lutrinae I work in Walthamstow live in Romford. Not sure of protocol but up for a pudding club meeting pre baby and def mummy and baby lunches in Walthamstow Village post baby, or anywhere else London/Essex if anyone else is?

Blimey, it's taken me four days to catch up on posts from last Thursday! smile

Mama and floss - great to hear good news both sides. Floss, hang in there and stay chilled.

Sorry to hear so many having challenging times.

Teapig I know what you mean about waking at 4am and being in a sleep pickle after that....and the long dyas and commuting up town. I'm finding sitting at a desk most of the day then on a train for over an hour way way is giving me backache. However I did start a local antenatal yoga class and have been two weeks in a row, so that's helping along with my morning yoga stretches (that I do when I can't sleep!). I really notice it when I don't do them.

Must keep up the pelvic floor exercises too as this persistent cough is making me go through boxes of tena lady! grin

Here's to a weekend holed up due to snow, painting the spare room and drinking hot chocolate!


milktraylady Thu 17-Jan-13 21:38:19

Yay let's do a meet up! I live in Upminster (Essex) but can easily get to Romford.

We went to kiddicare tonight and bought loads- cot, mattress, bedding & glider chair! That's £300 gone, blimey. All in the sale & we got another 10% off for having to wait ages at the til! Bonus!

Is anyone else finding the number of medical appointments alot? I am surprised how many I have.

I don't post much, as am really anxious, but it's so lovely hearing from everyone, it's like being part of a book that's being writtensmile

EssexWelsh Thu 17-Jan-13 22:14:01

Are you on Facebook group milktray or PM me.

milktraylady Thu 17-Jan-13 22:16:51

Hi I haven't joined the fb group yet, but will!
(I don't know how to pm from iPhone)

bunnygirl80 Thu 17-Jan-13 22:27:36

floss great news that baby's staying put a while longer

cocochops I got a new mattress for the Moses basket. We leant it to friends and I'm not sure if they used a different mattress or used ours, and I just thought it'd probably be a bit worn out if it's now onto its third occupant. I think guidlines are to get a new mattress for each child

I slept all night last night, but now feel even tireder than normal confused.

milktraylady Thu 17-Jan-13 22:48:23

Aha! I will not be defeated by iPhone- join request sent to fb group grin

Dysgu Thu 17-Jan-13 23:11:48

I sent a request to join fb group but nothing has happened. Not sure if I did it wrong (my initials are N S and my profile pic is my 2 DDs standing on a model of the island).

ILoveNoodles Fri 18-Jan-13 01:15:38

Hey Romford ladies
Essex and milktray I am up the road from Romford too! Don't wanna say too much here as I don't even have my area or where I live on facebook lol!

Catching up on posts whilst ds coughs away in my arms, he has been vomiting too, I am exhausted, and funding my reactions to grab sick bowl, tissues etc, are currently less than ninja like due to bump. Also because I changed my bed sheets this morning, he obviously had to puke on them today shock wish I could stop him coughing though, sounds horrid.

Hope you're all well. How do I join the fb group via my phone?

Fluffeh Fri 18-Jan-13 07:00:53

Aww cheese I hope he feels better soon.

Did a bit if baby stuff shopping yesterday and my spare room is starting to resemble mothercare lol Pampers are on offer at boots at £8 for the bigger pack so we got 2 of those and the free changing bag for DP, I have a pink one to match the pram smile.
Boots also have buy one get one half price on baby clothes, I'm trying to convince DP we need a striped rainbow babygro :D. It's a bit too much to spend on just one item though with how money is atm.
We also picked up the Emma's diary packs from Argos, inside there was 4 50% off mamia nappies and wipes coupons hopefully they'll last us until the baby fits in reusables.
Had our second antenatal class yesterday but I had to leave half way through as the room was so warm I felt really sick. But we did listen to the talk on SIDS safety and bathing and baby massage. The baby who came in to demo was not pleased with getting naked in front if all those strangers, poor little chap. He was pretty good though and really relaxed being massaged.
They run free classes of baby massage at the surestart centre so I'm hoping to go along to them when she's born.

Teapig Fri 18-Jan-13 07:48:10

Hey essex, milktray and noodles, I'm a fellow Essex girl. I'm in Southend but could get to Romford pretty easily, it's not far on the train and I'm a hardened commuter. I used to live in Walthamstow, still miss the Village.

grow, I hope the back ache eases up. I was getting it a bit until I was given a special back support thing for my chair at work, that seems to have made all the difference.

A weekend holed up in the snow sounds good to me. We're painting the nursery this weekend and assembling furniture, so exciting!

Dysgu Fri 18-Jan-13 08:45:03

We have snow so schools are closed but I am meant to have my GTT this morning. I have been trying to call the clinic but can only reach the main switchboard who promised a call back but said many clinics are still running but that they would be happy to reschedule the appointment if needed.

My stomach is starting to rumble - DDs think it is baby bump growling at us as it is sad to be missing out on the snow!

birdbrain17 Fri 18-Jan-13 09:03:27

lutrinae would have been nice if we were local but I live in Edgware and work in Colindale. I guess london is a big place....

It's started snowing outside, hoping they close school early I have so much to do tonight, it's just been one of those weeks where nothing got done!

Trishstar Fri 18-Jan-13 09:06:35

No 4d scan for us today :-(

OH is refusing to even attempt to go! Just looked at the voucher and it says 48 hour cancellation policy tho!

jj247 Fri 18-Jan-13 09:37:40

Hope everyone isn't too badly affected by the snow this weekend. We seem to be getting off lightly up in our part of Yorkshire, but my folks are under a few inches already in Wales, so it looks like the meet up I had planned with my Mum at John Lewis in Cheadle will be cancelled tomorrow sad Really disappointed as it would have been the first time I had had a chance to look at baby stuff in an actual shop instead of online, (my town sells no baby stuff (apart from a few clothes in Next) or maternity wear!)

That said, currently waiting for a call back from the midwife as I'd been worrying about not putting any weight on for a couple of weeks at the beginning of the week, then this morning stepped on the scales and I've actually lost weight. I'm sure it is fine really as can feel little bean wriggling, and it is just because I'm stressed at work, but just want to get a word of reassurance!

Then I rang my Mum to see how the snow was her end to check if we're likely to meet up and found out she is at the Doctors, getting a lump checked on her breast. She didn't want to worry me apparently (she had a breast removed due to breast cancer years ago). Praying it hasn't come back.

Knackered and hormonal, so just want to go home and hide away from it all, no chance though! Got a builder coming round to see if he can do anything with our kitchen later today, (to quote for work, not actually do it!) as it was -4 in there this morning and it is awful/unhygienic in there with loads of cracks to trap food. it is tiny though, so by the time the walls/ceiling/floor get insulated it would probably be the size of a fridge! smile

Sorry to be mememe, just feel like it is all a bit too much at the mo. doubtless a good sleep over the weekend will fix it all smile

Trishstar Fri 18-Jan-13 09:46:52

JJ hope everything is ok with your Mum. Xxx

angeltattoo Fri 18-Jan-13 11:04:44

Hi Everyone,

Feeling very sorry for myself here, I went out for my antenatal appt but ended up sliding in the car, hitting a triple height kerb, damaging my car and hitting my head very hard :-(

I am home now, have cancelled my appt, but I have a whacking headache, and my DH is abroad :-(

There is noone else who can take to the hospital, so I am sitting on my sofa hoping I do not have an epic head injury. I have a headache, but no nausea or vomitting, so I suppose I'll just keep an eye on it? I cannot drive my damaged car so I cannot get to hospital. DH is due back this evening, if flights into Gatwick are ok.

I didn't hit bump, and she seems to be moving ok, but does anyone have any advice or words of comfort? I am feeling very alone and sorry for myself without DH Cannot believe he is not here!!!

ILoveNoodles Fri 18-Jan-13 11:15:53

angeltattoo hugs from me, maybe give docs or midwife a quick ring to make sure. I hope you are alrite xx

<waves at teapig! I'm up for that. You are due one day after me I see.>

ILoveNoodles Fri 18-Jan-13 11:18:18

Got to get ds from school early as they are closing cos of the snow <not impressed!> sending oh so I can stay inside xx

JaquelineHyde Fri 18-Jan-13 11:38:09

Oooh angel rest, rest, rest and be aware of any twinges in your neck, shoulders or back for up to 48 hours. If you do feel any, go and get some pain relief asap . It took 48 hrs for my whiplash to set in and I have been in agony with it.

I'm just waiting for the call from school to go and collect DD1, luckily we got the shopping done afetr dropping her off this morning before the snow started, so we are set for staying indoors for as long as needed and that is just what we need as the house looks like a bomb has hit it!

milktraylady Fri 18-Jan-13 12:40:37

Blimey angel, hope you are ok.
Maybe phone the midwife for advice?
Take care

Dysgu Fri 18-Jan-13 12:49:14

Managed to cancel my hospital appointment so they will reschedule for next week - which means more planning to have my class covered at school and I also have my two appointments next week already! I imagine my boss will also be counting the days until my ML starts at this rate - although they have yet to advertise for my replacement!

Hospital was great once I managed to speak to antenatal people (the switchboard was nice enough but you could really tell the difference once I got through to antenatal!). They were very concerned that I should not try to get there - I am on a bust route and so are they - especially as I have my 2DDs and it would not be ideal to have them sitting around for 2 hours. The midwife told me to stay home, eat breakfast and put my feet up grin

So we have been at the park for the past two hours! I am sure I will pay for it in a few hours especially as we stopped off at the shop on the way home and I ended up filling 4 carrier bags blush to carry home (although DD1 carried one smile )

And even better, DP has sent a text to say his place is closing at 1 o'clock so he should be home by 3 - depending on when the boats run at this time of day - so would I be a really bad mummy if I plonk my girls in front of the TV for lunch and a bit of CBeebies and then DP can build the snowman we have planned for the back garden once he gets in?!

angel I imagine you are feeling even worse that you otherwise would as you are on your own. Hopefully your headache will ease off and there will be no other pains but I would give your MW or clinic a call as they can reassure you. Perhaps you can hunt out a taxi telephone number just in case you need to go up and be checked.

jj it really seems as though everything is coming for you and your family at once too. I hope your mum's results come back quickly and that they are good news. Fingers crossed.

Thanks teapig I'll get one sorted from facilities. What colour/theme are you doing your nursery? We're no a woodland theme and my mum's knitting some badgers and hedgehogs and handcrafted toys. I know the baby won't notice or care for ages, but it's fun for me and DH!

angel keep an eye on yourself, and like milktray says, call your midwife for advice and if your headache gets any worse call an ambulance or a taxi.

aufaniae Fri 18-Jan-13 12:57:10

Angel I also reckon you should call your MW for advice. That's what they're there for, they will be happy to speak to you.

angeltattoo Fri 18-Jan-13 12:59:57

Thanks everyone, my DH has rang (from bloody France ) and I told him, he was worried as all our family and friends are a) 2 hours away and b) snowed in anyway and he rang the GP, so someone will walk round and see me.

So I feel relieved, will let you know how I get on.

JJ fingers crossed your mum will be fine, everything is scary after cancer, I know. Xx

aufaniae Fri 18-Jan-13 13:00:32

I've also requested to join FB but nothing happened.

My profile pic is sort of like a negative (but not!), it's mainly black with lines picked out in kind of rainbow colours. (That'll make sense when you see it, I hope!)

aufaniae Fri 18-Jan-13 13:01:29

angel, that's good news.

Let us know how it goes. Keeping fingers crossed it's totally minor and nothing to worry about smile

Dysgu Fri 18-Jan-13 13:07:38

As we are all sitting here (very busy) would anyone mind telling me what they have bought for DC already? I know we need to really get onto this but so far seem to very little:

Phil n' Ted buggy (left over from DD2)
Changing table (gift from Dparents for DD1)
Various reusable nappies (from DD1 then DD2)
3 x newborn white vests
3 x newborn white sleepsuits
1 pack of newborn size nappies (Tesco own I think)

and that seriously is it...

angeltattoo Fri 18-Jan-13 13:31:05

Dr has been, he checked my eyes with his keyring torch, said he's sure I'm fine.

He wasn't bother about baby, as my head had taken all the impact and that they're robust and well protected in there!

So I've just dipped my own urine (trace of protein only), done my own blood pressure and had a listen with the doppler (i don't like doing this normally, but HB was heard and she was kicking the probe!) so I feel reassured.

Just hope DH can get his flight home now, and this headache doesn't las too long, or whiplash set in.

angeltattoo Fri 18-Jan-13 13:46:03

Dysgu, I have bought/been bought:

For baby:

Icandy cherry pram/pushchair
Lots of nappies and wipes (my mum has bought and got them stashed at her house)
Vests - newborn and up to one month and up to three mths, one pack each
Sleepsuits - newborn and up to one month and up to three months, one pack ech
Blankets - mum has knitted these!
Baby towels - although not essential, these were presents
Cotton wool
Nappy sacks
Little cotton hats
Jacket x2
All in one suit (not sure if needed, got cheap at an NCT sale, probably not essential as has jackets/blankets/April baby)
Some fancy sleep suits for coming home, but only a few - will wait to see how big she is!
Breast pump and steriliser and two bottles incase of BF difficulty.

Friends have given us various clothes etc, but I haven't listed these. Also some sleeping bags etc but willuse these as she gets bigger

Will buy:
Change mat
Car seat

For me:
Maternity pads
Toiletries for hospital bag
Nipple cream
Breast pads

Will probably think of more...

Dysgu Fri 18-Jan-13 14:28:52

Thank you angel you see your list is a lot longer than mine so I think I need to get some stuff. I think our next NCT sale is in April, but which time we will probably have this new baby, know what it is so will be able to buy more stuff.

I keep nosing online but can't get my head round actually buying anything - I still think it has something to do with the idea that if we leave off buying stuff then the baby will stay put!

toobreathless Fri 18-Jan-13 14:45:28

Dysgu we have:

From DD:
Pram & carrycot
Cot bed and changing table.
Bedding (baby sleeping bags & sheets)
Bottles x 5 (no teats)
Breast pump
Microwave steriliser
Most clothes (expecting DD2)
Baby monitor
Baby towels (given to us second hand)
Reusable nappies and bucket
Car seat and base.
Hundreds of Muslins and bibs.
Calpol/baby suncream/baby nail clippers.

We have bought:
Dummies x 2
2 new teats for bottles
Vests - up to 1 month x 5
Cardigan x 1 0-3 months
1 pack nappies size 1
1 pack nappies size 2
1 pack cotton wool
Huggies wipes x errrr, 22! I use them for DD & saw an amazing offer!
Lansinoh cream
Maternity pads x 2 packs
Breast pads x 60

We need to buy:
Something for new baby to sleep in (probably NCT baby nest)
Nighties x 2 for labour with buttons
Big pants
Baby gym (borrowed one for DD & would like our own, not an essential)

We won't bother with:
Baby bath
Baby thermometer (one on monitor)

angeltattoo Fri 18-Jan-13 15:19:18

Oooh yes, muslins! Have got lots of those.

Also, I need to get a bath support.

steph2412 Fri 18-Jan-13 15:46:26

Dysgu this is dc3 but i got rid of everything so have had to start from scratch so far in my spare room i have:

moses basket with stand and matress
3 fitted sheets
5 blankets
electric steriliser with 6 bottles and 6 from birth teats and 6 from 3 months teats
changing mat
mamas and papas changing bag
fisher price activity gym
mothercare 2 in 1 gym
fold up baby bath
toiletries for baby
Nappy cream 3 small tubes
nappy bags
14x wipes pampers sensitive
2x bags cotton woll
230x pampers new baby num 1 nappys
196X pampers new baby num 2 nappys
10 bibs
3 muslins
clothes newborn i have
6 babygros
5 long sleve tops
2x jeans
1X dungaree outfit
in 0-3 i have
8x vests
9x babygros
2X blue trouser and top thin outfits
2x cute jogges
1x jeans
2x combats
2x tops
Tigger outfit with feet in
3pairs pjs
1X Fleece
2x hats
1 pack scratch mitts
5pairs of socks

also got some 3-6 month clothes
i have brought nearly everything half price!still to get is bouncy chair or swing my hospital bag stuff ive brought a new bag!also need to pay the rest of my pushchair off. think im nearly there!
btw i am only getting so organised as taking dcs oon holiday in feb half term and baby may b early!

steph2412 Fri 18-Jan-13 15:47:48

Forgot to add ive ordered my pushchair and carrycot from mamas and papas just. need to pay the remander and collect at start of march!x

SneezySnatcher Fri 18-Jan-13 16:33:39

JJ sorry to hear what a worrying time you're having.

angel hope you're feeling better soon. I had a bump into a wall with my car when 35 weeks with DD (due to snow) and all was fine but I know how worrying it is.

Been for my second appointment this week. No protein but BP slightly higher (still not worryingly high though). I now have to go to the hospital three times a week. I'm grateful they're monitoring it but it's getting tough going in so frequently sad

steph2412 Fri 18-Jan-13 16:36:12

Sneezy i know what a pain that can be with dc1 in the end the midwife came to me every other day until i was taken in to hospital to be started off. At least the end is in sight!

Teapig Fri 18-Jan-13 17:57:42

sneezy, going to the hospital that often must be tough but at least they're keeping a good eye on you.

Glad you got checked out angel, hope you're headache eases quickly and OH is home to take care of you very soon.

Hey noodles, we're almost EDD buddies!

grow, a woodland themed nursery sounds gorgeous! DH is painting our nursery at the moment, I know it sounds mad but we're painting it a fairly dark grey. Not the usual choice for a nursery I know but we love dark colours that make brights pop out and create a cosy effect. I'm thinking of doing a feature wall in Quentin Blake's cockatoos wallpaper. Can't wait to start assembling furniture.

Wow, I thought I'd bought quite a bit of baby bits but reading everyone's list I'm realising I have much more to get. We have snow forecast but none yet, hoping it stays clear so I can venture to the shops while DH cracks on with the painting.

Hope everyone stays warm and snug in this cold weather.

enjay0811 Fri 18-Jan-13 18:37:08

Well..snowed in here! We managed to get dd's out earlier to build a snowman n have made some biscuits and cakes with them but so bored! Cldnt bend down to pick the snow up but still wore myself out and needed a cat nap this aftanoon!

jj hope things are ok with ur mum, must b so worrying.

angel glad everything is ok but take it easy for a few days. Hope oh makes it home soon.

steph I'm in the same boat..dc3 but got rid of everything! Def need to get shoppin to catch up with u tho. I've got bits and pieces, vests, babygro's, muslins etc and have cot bed, pram, moses basket but need to get stuff for me and toiletries, nappies etc.

steph2412 Fri 18-Jan-13 19:01:03

ENJAY i must admit i am only so organised as i am worried this baby will be early!i have saved so much money tho by buying in the sales i got all the nappies wipes and bottle teats from sainsburys last week as there baby event seemed to be the cheapest for essential. ive picked a second hand cot but need to get a matress!think i will need some more sheets aswel the list goes on and on x

Dysgu Fri 18-Jan-13 19:49:29

These lists are really useful - we too are expecting DC3 having been pretty certain we were stopping at 2 until we changed our minds last spring!

We are also expecting this one to come early - if it repeats DD1 then it could arrive before the end of February although we managed a couple of extra weeks with DD2.

I should at least get my hospital bag sorted, I think.

bunnygirl80 Fri 18-Jan-13 20:42:01

dysgu this is DC2 for me and so far I've bought:
More clothes than she'll ever need!
1 jumbo box of newborn sized nappies
New breast pump (DS got hold of my old one and used it to dig in his sand pit!)
New mattress for Moses basket

We already have:
Moses basket and cot
All bedding
Reusable nappies, although DS still wears them so one child will be in disposables till he potty trains
Change bag

I'm planning on getting
Double pram (we're off to look at them again today)
New baby monitor (current one died at the hands of DS)
New car seat for DS (his will then go back to rear facing for dc2)
Teats for bottles
Muslins (gave all my old ones away to a friend in need)

angel hope you're ok and whiplash doesn't set in

Am loving hearing about everyone's adventures in the snow. It was the hottest day on record in Sydney yesterday, it reached 46 degrees in the afternoon. I ventured out to the park with DS pretty early in the day, but had to come home after about 30mins because the heat made me feel sick and dizzy. Ended up going to the swimming pool for the afternoon, which was great as the water makes him light enough for me to comfortably lift him and my SPD felt much better.

Teapig Fri 18-Jan-13 20:51:44

OMG - my belly button is no longer any inny! It's transformed since this morning though not yet an outy, it's just sort of flat. Grossed out that in a few days I could have an outy on my hands - ick!

SneezySnatcher Fri 18-Jan-13 21:04:50

Teapig mine did that yesterday. Well, the top half is outy and the bottom half is flat - not attractive!

tattooedapril87 Fri 18-Jan-13 21:29:02

my button is the same- not in but not out ...

but here is the worst bit- its gone gooey/crusty/flakey?? whats all that about??

Fluffeh Sat 19-Jan-13 07:07:09

angel hope your feeling better smile.

Had to go underwear shopping yesterday because my bras were creating 4 boobs and my knickers just kept falling down as I couldn't get them in the right place for bump. Pre pregnancy I was a 30aa yesterday I had to buy 34dd!! Fantastic haha!

Loving the lists of things already bought/left to buy.
We have -
Moses basket,
Pram - with carrycot and carseat and base,
Bouncy chair,
Changing mats,
Cotton wool,
Play mat with gym,
Two big bags of clothes from a lovely MN'r,
Sleeping bags,
3 blankets.

We still needs cot and mattress, mattress for carrycot, baby gros, reusable nappies + wipes and a couple of bottles and steriliser just invade breast feeding doesn't go too well.

Snow wise we've had hardly any sad. Not even enough for a snow ball fight. But that's a good thing as DP needs to drive around 80 miles today to visit his boys.

SneezySnatcher Sat 19-Jan-13 07:37:22

Ridiculous amounts of snow here. DH and I are going to take DD to the park on the sledge.

Supposed to be going to DNeice's second birthday party tomorrow. Only problem is it's on a farm (!) on a very inaccessible road. The children are supposed to be feeding the animals and going on a tractor ride. Not sure how likely that is!

edinfirst Sat 19-Jan-13 08:58:30

Finally snowing in Scotland too. Dragged DH out to make a snowman at 10 o'clock last night (wanted to make a snowlady with a bump smile) but it wasn't frozen enough so we had a snowball fight instead - can't wait to have a little person to play with too!

Last night I went for a pregnancy massage and feel lovely for it today! Couldn't afford salon prices but found a lady online who used to be a midwife and massages from home - would totally recommend it for anyone with just general aches and pains.

We too are building nursery furniture this weekend, I can't wait. We've not long decorated, so just putting up a wee border to make it more like a nursery. Very excited to see a change as we've been referring to it as Bumps's room for ages and soon it will look like that!

Off to yoga this morning so I'd better get up and sort the car out. FX for good enough snow to build my upduffed snowlady later

edinfirst Sat 19-Jan-13 09:15:38

Also meant to say re belly button that mine got really flat/stretched and I was sure it was going to pop out-but it had gone back to normal now. So weird

ratbagcatbag Sat 19-Jan-13 14:53:18

Hi all.

Hope everyone is staying safe despite the thick snow.

I want to moan about bloody men. My DH started wallpapering (he does hate it though) it took six drops of paper to get two hung, one step ladder kicked across the room, one massive row and lots of swearing before I legged it down the road where a painter and decorator live. Quotes coming tomorrow and even though he's busy he. Will fit us in. Thank god. I thought I was going through a divorce before due date. Never again. I accept my DH can do electrics, painting, plumbing, carpentry and lots of ironing however wallpapering is not a skill he possesses.

Moan over. smile

Fwiw my belly buttons not moved at all, but I have got a wobbly tum anyway so the fats probably keeping it in.

photochick Sat 19-Jan-13 15:46:22

oh ratbag wallpapering is not fun. We have done ours but never again and we only have to do 3 drops and a bit over the door.

Been shopping this morning - a local store had a blue cross sale so two dreampod bags for £7 each (were £30) and 2 flannelette sheets for £5 each (which I will cut in half to make 4 cotbed sheets!). Also braved nappies with my mum and got 100 pampers, though slighly niffed you can get cheaper Huggies via Amazon (so will order some of these too). Guess we will use so many it won't matter and in buying pampers we got a free changing bag which will be a handy spare as we got one with our pram. Also went to a fab charity shop that only does childrens / baby stuff - 4 vests, 3 long sleeve vests and a blanket for less than a fiver and all great condition. Love a bargain and every penny counts!!

Teapig Sat 19-Jan-13 16:12:43

Good to hear that I'm not the only one with a changing belly button. It's a little freaky.

Ratbag, my DH and I are planning to hang some wallpaper in the nursery, it will be DH's first time of hanging wallpaper and I may just go done the decorator route like you for fear of wallpaper-relate divorce proceedings.

Sounds like you got some great bargains photochick, I must check out the Huggies on Amazon.

toobreathless Sat 19-Jan-13 16:45:28

Also have a belly button 'on the move!' Don't think it will become a proper 'outie' though. After surgery for my ectopic the little wound in my belly button got infected and had been a bit stuck down since.

I have had a lovely morning. Also done a spot of shopping & got some lovely stuff in Cath Kidston: a blanket as a new baby present for a friend expecting a girl reduced from £16 to £8. Two beautiful bibs (supposedly to go with blanket, but may end up staying here!) reduced from £8 to £2! Two vests for bump reduced to £4 for both. Also popped into M&S and was surprised how reasonable they seem, got DD a swimming costume, leggings and lovely (too nice for nursery) top for £12 total in the new season line.

I only have 12 working days left smile smile smile I am finishing at 32 weeks! I worked till 39 last time so quite a difference. I work fulltime & will be returning fulltime after a year and I owe it to DD to spend some te settling her into her new routine (as well as potentially moving house!) and preparing her for the new baby.

To those on DC2 (or more!) can I ask how you feel about this pregnancy? I thought I'd be more relaxed this time round and I'm definately worse! I'm generally pretty laid back though. I think I've bonded earlier and feel more 'invested' in this pregnancy as I look at my bump and see DD.

Work is super busy at the moment, lots of nasty viruses and chest infections around at the moment. I also saw two people last week triaged as ? Shingles and ? Chicken pox. Couldn't work out if I was being overly precious or not but it doesn't seem to be ideal. There are 3 other (male) docs in and two nurse practitioners who are both approaching 50 so not pregnant who could have seen them. They were extras so had just been out on the end of my list. I just got on with it in the end.

Right enough about me:

ratbag I HATE wall pappering and there would have been a similar scene in this house! That guy will be worth every penny.

Mama hope both you and wee Alex are continuing to go from strength to strength. How much does he weigh now?

Trishstar how are wedding plans going?

floss hope you are taking it easy, must be difficult with DS! And not too bored.

JJ hope things are ok with your mum.

Apologies for not name checking anyone else I can't flick back whilst writing this on my phone.

29 + 1

Hello everyone! I haven't posted for absolutely ages, I do try and follow the thread but it moves so quickly I find it hard to keep up!

Since I last posted I was struck down with Bells Palsy and put on 50mg Steroids for 10 days, but luckily it was mild and has mostly gone now. They were worried it was a blood clot in my brain because of the clot I had in my last pregnancy, but thankfully no clot this time! Just a wonky face and a sleepless night in hospital ;) .... (is anyone else dreading the postnatal ward???)

So pleased for Mama and Alexander, wonderful.

Some of you are so organised with your baby equipment smile, I need to sort through the bits and bobs I've got and see what I need to get! Did venture out this morning to M&S and get a pack of vests and 0-3 months sleep suits, seem to be very lazy at getting stuff together for this DC.

Have joined FB group. Will seriously try not to be absent for so long again!

Due 12th April

Giddypants Sat 19-Jan-13 16:48:44

I love hanging wallpaper, I find it so therapeutic <weird> I need to do the living/diner but I have been banned until baby arrives.

Not done anything re nursery decorating yet, not even sure where we're going to put him, DS has a room but sleeps in my room still, DH has been turfed out to the spare (can't do with his snoring and tossing and turning all night) and the box room is still junked up from when we moved here 18 months ago blush

Managed to get out in the back garden to build DS a snowman today, not that he was bothered, think he was more entertained by the dog frolicking after his ball!

30 weeks today yay!

Giddypants Sat 19-Jan-13 17:02:14

toobreathless totally agree with the other staff looking at/after infectious patients, I had a patient, with GBS caused by CMV.
I know a young boy DSs age with congenital CMV so was paranoid the whole shift that was it, I had infected this one.

Trishstar Sat 19-Jan-13 17:09:03

Wedding plans are going ok! Set for march 2nd. OH has suit just needs new shoes! I just need a dress but if I don't win the one on eBay then I've found a good website that sells maternity wedding dresses between £100-£150! And you can give them your measurements to have it altered!!

Then we just need to choose some (cheapish) wedding rings.


Pontouf Sat 19-Jan-13 19:49:55

Hello everyone! I haven't been on here or absolutely ages, but was pretty active on the 1st couple of threads. Glad to see everyone is doing well.

Mama1980 Congratulations on the birth of little Alex. So glad he is doing so well. Hope you will start to feel better physically soon.

Flosshilde glad you're doing ok too and that you managed to keep minifloss in for the time being. Aren't women's bodies amazing?!

Since I last posted I've had a horrendous chest infection, ended up in a&e with suspected pneumonia which was a bit scary but they put me on some steroids and antibiotics and told me to stop going into bloody work (I am an idiot and had been working in operating theatres while feeling that poorly. Had to go to A&E halfway through my shift. Not very good at admitting defeat you see.) anyway feeling a lot better now.

I found out at my 12 week scan that I have an amniotic band - a band of tissue across my uterus, which probably formed after my ELCS with DS. Apparently this has meant that there is reduced room for my baby so while it won't affect growth it could affect the baby's movement. Anyway they've been keeping a fairly close eye on me and I had a scan last week at the Fetal Medicine Unit. The scans are really detailed - they can do all the 3D stuff which was amazing! DH and I decided before I went for the can that despite always saying we didn't want to find out the gender and waned a surprise, that actually we did want to know! DH couldn't make it to this scan (to be fair it was the 8th in this pregnancy!) so I asked the consultant to write down the gender and put it in an envelope. We sat down in the evening with DS and opened the envelope. So we're having a.......................GIRL!

I am ridiculously excited about it and want to go out and buy loads of pretty girl stuff (despite not being much of a girly girl myself) But DH is a tight bastard thinks that since most the newborn stuff we've got from when DS was tiny is all neutral, we can just use those things. I've bought a few sneaky inexpensive bits and pieces though. A little red hat and gloves, a couple of girl sleepsuits and some little socks.

Anyway, I've joined the Facebook group now so will go and have a sneaky peek over there. Sorry for the epic post!

jj247 Sat 19-Jan-13 19:52:01

So, mum has been given all clear by doctor, still slightly paranoid as last time she got lump checked for 3yrs then had to have a mastectomy within 24hrs of the last scan, but hopefully this is nothing to worry about. Mum seems happy with result so I am too. smile
midwife thinks weight loss nothing to worry about either and bean has been reassuring me by being super wriggly :D
This morning a lovely lady helped me down the road as I was picking my way across some ice, as she walked on with her son he asked "what was wrong with that lady?" to which she replied " nothing, she has a little baby inside her that she is looking after" smile
angel hope your DH is home and you're feeling okay. Super pleased to hear mama & alex, and floss are all doing well xx

jj247 Sat 19-Jan-13 19:53:22

Ooh and trish that dress on eBay is gorgeous, hope you win it!

Keys86 Sat 19-Jan-13 20:11:06

I did originally post when we were all just pregnant, and I was a nervous wreck after having a miscarriage in April. But now I am happy things are going smoothly and I am starting to enjoy being pregnant I thought I would join everyone on here again!

We are having a surprise! Due on 26th April so a bit behind most of you.

What did most people decide about NCT classes? We are signed up for the free ones but thought we would do NCT too, until they told me it was £230! Which we can't really afford, but as none of my friends are at 'the baby stage' I'm worried I'll be a bit lonely when DH goes back to work etc. really to sure what to do!

Stay safe in the snow! X

Keys86 Sat 19-Jan-13 20:11:38

Will also join FB group!

jj247 Sat 19-Jan-13 21:11:19

Welcome back keys smile
We started NCT last week (the next course finished 2 days before our due date so thought that was cutting it a bit fine!) and we've met three other great couples. Its great to feel like we have RL people to share it all with, I also feel like we're learning a few things which will help me cope with the labour and birth. I was in two minds when I found out the cost but I've no regrets now we're doing them. Just my experience though, do what feels right for you x

LikeCandy Sat 19-Jan-13 21:37:25

keys I'm not doing NCT classes (and haven't decided abou the NHS classes yet) but there are plenty of post-baby activities you can do to socialise with little one! In my local area I've been looking at surestart / bumps and babes / and NCT meet ups (that you don't have to be a member for) - I will make a rota of things to do once my LO is born and we have some kind of routine!

trish how exciting! just a word of advise, it may be worth buying yourself a super cheap temporary wedding ring and get a real one post birth, only because I can't wear my engagement ring, and my wedding ring is almost jammed onto my finger at the moment with pregnancy swelling!!

alwayshopeful13 Sat 19-Jan-13 21:38:44

keys like you I've been an infrequent poster but trying to get a bit better now I feel more relaxed in the pregnancy (mc at 11 weeks Dec 2011) and the end is in sight with work, so there's all the exciting stuff to sort now (thanks everyone for all the lists-v useful).

On your NCT question-we were in two minds about it (for various reasons). In the end we decided to stick with the NHS ones and for me to do pregnancy yoga because I liked the idea of spending money on something fairly practical. Anyway I completely LOVE the yoga and it's local so I'm meeting some like minded ladies due around the same time. The teacher does a separate intensive birth prep workshop (for partners too), v reasonably priced so we're going to do that as well. Just an idea....if you can find a local yoga class.

Hope everyone else is well. jj - great news about our mum. You all must be so relieved.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sat 19-Jan-13 21:48:26

Hi all. Trying to keep up but when I'm at work I struggle!

We decided against NCT for two reasons 1. The cost (about £130 here but can think of better ways to spend that money) and 2. They are running for 8 weeks and there's no way I can commit to that since I work shifts. We are going for a private midwife who does 1:1 at home over two sessions instead.

Great news about your Mum jj smile

I am a bit worried we're not very organised now! I need to get all the stuff we're having off my sister soon so I know what we still need!

Pontouf glad the pregnancy is going well and you're excited about a girl!


alwayshopeful13 Sat 19-Jan-13 22:11:26

Ooooh just found a fab website listing loads of other great ones for funky babywear and other bits and pieces....I love clothes that are bright and bold colours (for bump not for me!). Just thought I'd post in case anyone is interested...apols if you all know of it already:


Trishstar Sat 19-Jan-13 23:28:27

Thanks candy! We only got engaged on Christmas Day. My ring finger has been and still is size j (has been since school) and that's what my engagement ring is and fits fine. Think j will be ok for wedding ring?

Fluffeh Sun 20-Jan-13 06:49:22

Ooh exciting trish! The dress you shared on the fb group is lovely, fx you have the winning bid smile.

jj fantastic news for your mum and family smile.

We're signed up to nct classes but we got them for less than £15 or we wouldn't have been able to afford them.
I'm glad too as the nhs ones are so crowded I find it difficult to see anything and people tend to talk over the ladies running the course, meaning I can't hear what they're saying either.
The nct ones start early feb.

Silly question but is it worth buying basic clothes for baby in newborn size or should we just get 0-3 months? The obstetrician thinks its going to be on the small side so I'm thinking newborn might be better at first?

My aunt has been knitting and crocheting like mad making us blankets and cardigans. Would a crochet blanket be similar to a cellular blanket with the holes in it or should we still buy cellulars? The hand crocheted ones are lots prettier smile.

Pontouf Sun 20-Jan-13 07:40:03

Thanks Faith, obviously I'd have been happy with another little boy. I have a two year old DS who is absolutely the light of my life, but I have such a great, close relationship with my Mum and i'd love to have that with a daughter of my own. Also DH and I absolutely cannot agree on another boys name so now we can stop arguing and just go with our beautiful girl's name!

Trishstar that dress is utterly gorgeous. Am very jealous, wish I could get married all over again. It was so much fun. I loved the planning as much as the day I think!

Fluffeh, if The obstetrician says your baby is likely to be smallish I'd go for newborn. To be honest a lot of it depends on leg length though. DS was an average 7lb 3oz when born but was in newborn for at least a month as he had little short legs (still does a bit!) I'd get a few newborn bits at least. It'll be a pain in the arse to have to go out and buy stuff as soon as you have the baby and if they are too small you can always eBay them and get some of the money back. Or just leave the tags on till the baby is born and you can swap them if necessary?

Urgh, have had such a rubbish night's sleep. The baby was going crazy last night, felt like she was stretching out her full length. Made me feel quite ill. Now I'm up watching a DVD with DS (lazy mother alert) as he was up at 6 as usual and it's DH's turn for a lie in. I may sneak back to bed once he gets up though!

lili86 Sun 20-Jan-13 09:11:57

Hi everyone!
Glad we are all progressing nicely. My belly button isnt an outy and never has been but i do have a piercing, which i have a preg bar for!
I went to a mums market event yesterday and got loads of stuff for bambino. Some new/preloved etc but at great prices. Got an elephant shaped feeding cushion, electric breast pump, tommee tippee feeding cloth, breast milk storage bags, sleepbag, birthing ball and 3 reusable newborn nappies and pail, a dummy steriliser for out nd about and a hanging decoration for the nursery all for £24!
Those of you wanting to use reusable nappies, i recommend you check with your local council on any schemes they may have first. Ours had a stall at the event and i got the nappies and pail for free(all brand new) for signing up to do 3 online surveys over a year! It allows me to see if i like them and they also do a hire scheme so you dont have to keep buying new sizes along with a support group!

back to work today after a weeks holidaysad, so better get myself ready!

jj247 Sun 20-Jan-13 09:32:41

porkus good to have you back smile really glad to hear they caught the bells palsy early too and you're well again. Our plumber had it in November too and they thought it was a stroke at first, surprisingly common and must have been scary.
I'm dreading postnatal ward and have fear they won't let me out because I can't get the hang of breastfeeding. In ideal world bean will be born with no intervention, feed straight away and we'll be discharged 6hrs later straight from labour ward smile

toobreathless Sun 20-Jan-13 10:11:26

Can I try & reassure people somewhat about the post natal ward. I had DD 23.04.2011 so same time of year. I went to a small district hospital in Hampshire for induction on good Friday & she was born on Easter Saturday.

I had 1 midwife and a student through out active labour despite not really 'needing' it - no particular medical reason for 1 to 1 care. For pushing I had 2 midwives plus student. I stayed the first night on labour ward as I had a bleed after DD arrived so they could 'keep an eye.' Then I spent a further 2 nights in as DD was rubbish at breast feeding initially. The care throughout was exceptional. I had a double room to myself as I was staff (didn't ask for it) but the main rooms slept 6 and never had more than 3 ladies in each, most had 1 or 2. DH was given a lesson in how to bathe DD and we had so much support with everything. One of the other ladies in my antenatal group went three as was also really happy with the care they recieved and she had an EMCS.

I know you hear some real horror stories on MN but people don't tend to talk as much about the great experiences so it presents a rather biased picture. I did think very carefully about where I had DD opting not to go to my local bigger and busier hospital and going to the one I worked at instead. Not sure how much of a difference this made.

I will also be hoping for a discharge from labour ward this time though smile

Dysgu Sun 20-Jan-13 12:01:26

toobreathless it is really interesting to read about what happened with you on the ward. I have never stayed on a ward with a baby but am hoping that this one will arrive at the right time and then we will probably have to stay in for a day or so?

With DD1 I was given a private room as she arrived so early and was whisked off to NICU.

With DD2 I insisted on being discharged on the same day (it was Xmas Eve, DD2 was again in NICU and DD1 was at just the right age to 'get' Christmas and her stocking had not been packed!)

There is a tiny part of me that sort-of-hopes that this one comes early if only because then I know what to expect. Of course, for the baby's sake, I want it to stay in until it is properly cooked.

EssexWelsh Sun 20-Jan-13 12:43:22

For those living in/moving to Walthamstow [http://m.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/jan/18/lets-move-walthamstow-north-east-london let's move to Walthamstow Guardian article]

EssexWelsh Sun 20-Jan-13 12:43:57
wishfulthinking1 Sun 20-Jan-13 18:01:46

Hi all-
Not been posting much but lurking v. regularly!

Glad to hear of all your updates and the bits and pieces you've all been buying. We're pretty much sorted- just need to get some newborn clothes and bits for a hospital bag-- eek, very exciting, 29 weeks today!

Been a tough day- I had a mc before this pregnancy and baby would have been due today, that made me feel a bit weird, topped off with a row with dh didn't help! But alls well - hubby and I are friends again and trying to be philosophical and positive about the mc- the baby I'm carrying now is obviously the baby I was supposed to have and that's all there is to it!

Am v. Jealous of those with quentin Blake wallpaper- we've just gone for boring magnolia- but we've ordered some lovely curtains that should arrive this week and that'll jazz it up!

Anyway- it's tonic water and shit tv for me tonight- tomorrow's another day and at least without today's 'due date' looming anymore it'll all be in the past. Onwards and upwards!!!

Have a great week everyone!

KelleStar Sun 20-Jan-13 20:13:34

wishful don't want this to come across the wrong way... but it really doesn't hurt to remember what could have been. MiL had many miscarriages and stillbirths [to be honest can't believe she kept trying] and she remembers each one in her own special way. FiL is less than kind about it, but she now just ignores him and does her own thing on those days [we are talking at least 30 years ago, DH was her last child, but she still honors their memory].

We've been loving the snow, DD is just a bouncing ball of energy and though she should be tired she is not sleeping well and both DH and I are exhausted as we take shifts in getting her back to sleep.

Watching call the midwife... confused

Mama1980 Sun 20-Jan-13 21:02:08

Hi all smile how is everyone?
I have my first physio session tomorrow and because of the snow no visitors today so i Decided to stop being a coward and with the nurses help had a proper look at myself. Well im a mess of scars but then I was before, grin I have lost a lot of weight though which looks kinda funny as I'm all boobs but little else. I can't have another child, that feels like a constant dull ache somewhere in me but its ok,and They don't know if I will be able to use my right leg again, but I'm gonna give it my best shot. I'm also going to have my hair cut, its long very long and dull so dd is sorting out a new style for me to try, feel the need to reclaim my body from the medical men if that makes sense.
Please don't feel the need to reply to any of that,smile I just needed to write it down, I hope that's ok?
I cannot wait to see Alex tomorrow and hopefully have my cuddles.
Thanks so much to everyone who mentioned places to buy prem stuff, much appreciated .

Dysgu Sun 20-Jan-13 21:57:54

Mama hoping the physio session goes well tomorrow although I imagine it is a long road, so to speak. Having a hair cut and a new style should make you feel good and more like 'you' rather than a puzzle for the medics to put back together.
Cuddles with Alex are definitely something to look forward to - how is he doing?

We only had snow flurries here today so everything should be back to normal tomorrow. DD2 had a party to go to at soft play so DP dropped DD1 and me in town (and took DD2 to the party) so we went shopping for baby stuff grin

Town was really empty which was great and DD1 is a wonderful helper and carried shopping bags and chose some lovely bits for the baby.

We got:
Changing bag this MAM one but at less than half that price and in the blue trim

little caterpillar outfit

And a bunch of other, less interesting stuff
-baby blanket
- muslins
-H&M vests - which I loved last time as they do up on the side and do not need to go over the head
-sleepsuits - one in leopard print and one in a cow print (DD1 chose these and they have matching hats and vests smile )

And when I got home and was telling/showing DP our stash (and he was pretending to be interested) he remembered that he had seen the old moses basket in the loft so went up to get it. It is still in great condition, the mattress looks fine and there were even three fitted sheets sitting inside it. I have put all the sheets, apron, liner and hood in the wash and it should all be fine. Now I am wondering whether we need to buy a stand - we had one before but gave it away.

When I told my mum that we had bought some stuff she did make a point of saying that the baby is going to stay in FOR A LOT LONGER YET!

enjay0811 Sun 20-Jan-13 23:23:56

Hope the physio goes well mama and Alex gives you big cuddles. Your optimism and positivety really makes me feel humble and glad you feel you can share your ups and downs with us x

Re post natal wards - my only experience has been at a birth centre which I really can't praise enough. Private room and bathroom, Dh was allowed to stay over nite and fantastic nurses and bf counsellor on hand. Stayed 1 night with dd1 and 2 with dd2 as I was in agony with afterpains and bf. Goin to a different birth centre this time as the other has now closed but plan to stay a cpl of nites to make sure we get bf sorted and to give me some peace

Bought some cheap vests and sheets online today in the Asda baby event, if you join the baby club you get a huggies newborn starter set if anyone is interested and priced up nappies on amazon. Getting there slowly! smile


EssexWelsh Sun 20-Jan-13 23:36:28

enjay how did you get the starter pack? I have registered online but not received an email or anything of next steps. Thanks.

steph2412 Mon 21-Jan-13 07:50:40

Morning all weve had more snow overnight its starting to depress me now im ment to be going to pay some money off my pushchair but cant go out. dcs are off school and im ment to have app with consultant tomoro not sure if ill be able to make it and really dont want to miss it!sorry for that rant just fed up.

angeltattoo Mon 21-Jan-13 10:14:26

Morning all!

toobreathless not long now until Mat leave for you, how lovely.

JJ Am so glad your mum got the all clear, the relief must be fantastic.

Pontouf yay a girl! Congratulations!

Thanks for all your concern, my husband finally made it home early Saturday evening, and I spent a quiet weekend on the sofa. My headache is much better now, and I made it into work this morning on a very slow, very crowded train.

My car may be quite poorly, DH is finding a garage to book it into, and although I know damage to the car is less important than damage to the baby or me, it is an expense we can well do without, so I'm hopng not too much damage done :-/

Lovely to hear about all the things you have been buying, I am keen to press on, and want to buy the crib and car seat.

We also need a bouncy chair, but are short on space, can anyone tell me if we need a baby gym too, or will a bouncy chair do for now?

Also due to space, I wasn't planning on buying a changing table (until we move), and was just planning on getting a changing mat to use on the sofa/bed. BUT as a naive first timer, would this be okay? I have noticed that Ikea do a foldable one, if I buy this for use in the bathroom, would this be a better idea and would it be useful? I am anticipating pooplosions and my sofa, and thinking that my first idea may not have been the best!

Changing table

Also, does anyone have an ikea cot? Due to being in a one-bed flat for now, I was thinking of getting a crib like this:

crib Actaully, there is anicer mothercare one that I would probably get, but the website is playing up!

But am wondering if a cot like this may be better, as it would do her until she is bigger/older:

Ikea cot

Any thoughts appreciated!

steph2412 Mon 21-Jan-13 10:42:07

Angel no need for a changing table imo i never used one and have just brought a changing mat again for this time round. I have brought a play gym and am getting a baby gym but a bouncy chair will be fine as it means baby can look around more when you need your hands free!thats just my opinion x

somuchstufftodo Mon 21-Jan-13 11:33:48

angeltattoo just a changing mat is absolutely fine.
It'll be safer on the floor though once your baby is near rolling age.

Baby gyms and bouncy chairs serve different purposes, you don't need either of them.

I found the bouncy chair very useful when I needed to have a shower. I put DS in it, in the bathroom, so he was safe, and showered while talking to him!

I found the baby gym useful as it kept DS entertained for 5 minutes. It was also useful to put the arch bit over his changing mat to keep him entertained while changing so he didn't wriggle off somewhere else! Also as he wasn't keen on being changed.

I think I found the bouncy chair more useful over all (could have used something else to keep him entertained while changing I guess).

Could you buy both second hand perhaps?

Our bouncy chair was very basic, literally a chair which bounced by the power of my foot! You can get all-singing all-dancing ones, which are great, but it's not necessary to spend a fortune - you've got the bouncy-chair-requirement ticked if you just get a basic one.

steph2412 Mon 21-Jan-13 12:37:29

Angel if you do want to buy new asda have bouncy chairs reduced to £16 in the baby event atm.

birdbrain17 Mon 21-Jan-13 14:56:22

Hi all, hope your keeping warm. We had no school today as the playground and carpark were all icy and it didn't stop snowing till late last night so they couldn't have gritted it, so happy to have had the day off as I was up all night, every position I tried made something else uncomfortable so it was nice to catch up on sleep this morning.
Had a really miserable sunday as well, was in a really grumpy mood all day and poor DH everything he tried to cheer me up just made me start crying again! feeling much happier today but definitely still very hormonal, and I have whooping cough jab booked for weds so no doubt thinking about that will put me in a bad mood again tomorrow!!!!
Cheered myself up by sorting through all the lists I made of baby stuff to buy and crossing off what we have so I can see what else we still need to buy.
any recommendations of cheap baby monitors, we live in a flat so baby will always be nearby just want one for reassurance (nervous first time mum!) nothing fancy with screens etc as we're on a tight budget, just something that you can hear the baby on...
also apart from the obvious big expensive places like john lewis, mothercare etc where can we buy a cot mattress from (we have a crib for the first few months but trying to see what else we can get in the end of sales)

sorry for the long post smile
29+1 (can't believe I'm counting down less then 12 weeks now, remember when we were all counting to get to 12 weeks!!!! shock )

Emmie10 Mon 21-Jan-13 17:55:10

birdbrain have a look on gumtree for monitors I got an angelcare sensor one yesterday for £20!

Teapig Mon 21-Jan-13 18:17:14

Evening all. Hope everyone is doing ok in this icy weather. The pavements are great on my route to work in London but locally they're a nightmare and it takes me ages to walk anywhere.

angel, glad to hear your headache has gone. Fx the car doesn't cost too much to fix, the main thing is you and baby are ok.
I was going to ask the same question on changing tables. I'm thinking of just getting a couple of changing mats rather than something we might not really need.

I picked up a bag of 0-6 months clothes via freecycle today. I'm sure we'll weed some out but should really help to boost our baby supplies without maxing the budget.

27+5, can't believe how quickly the time is flying now

angeltattoo Mon 21-Jan-13 19:57:37

Teapig, i bought a change mat from the asda event (*thanks Steph!*), I am going to try with that and see how we get on.

I phoned the car insurance, they will collect, assess and fix and I only have to pay my excess of £110, thank goodness!

Novia Mon 21-Jan-13 20:03:00

Okay - I know it's nothing compared to childbirth, but I had my whooping cough jab this morning and it's so painful now! Anyone else feeling my pain?! smile

Trishstar Mon 21-Jan-13 20:46:31

Ordered changing bag, nappies and wipes from amazon, got the fisher price woodsy bouncer too, 2nd hand from ebay for £20!!

Not much left to get. Just little bits like muslins, sudocrem, lasinoh for me! coming home outfit etc.

On the downside (sorry if TMI) but I thought I'd escaped the pregnancy piles but no!!! Ouch!!! What can I do?!! xx

aufaniae Mon 21-Jan-13 21:20:21

Novia, yes! I was surprised how tender it was, not so much at the time, but for a few days after. Feeling OK now. (Had it done on Weds).

It was a bit of a surprise too. I was in the Drs anyway for DS, and I said to the receptionist I wanted to book the Whooping Cough jab. I wasn't sure what week we're meant to get it from, nor was she, so she called the Dr to ask. The Dr said, "well we might as well do it now!" and so we did! shock

Dysgu Mon 21-Jan-13 22:10:42

I think I have my whooping cough in a couple of weeks - I am hoping to make an appointment to have that done and that have DD2's pre-school booster done. I will have to be brave and go first and show her how easy it is and then she will have hers - but she gets chocolate buttons.

I have my steroid injections on Thursday and Friday and every time I mention them, people point out how much they hurt. I imagine by Friday I will be feeling like a pin cushion as they have rescheduled my missed GTT from last week for this Friday so I will have the blood test, the drink, the steroid injection and then wait a while and then have the second blood test. I think after that it might be a relief to get into work!

As for the questions about changing tables - my parents bought us one when we had DD1 and we have used it... it is great for storing stuff on grin I think we did use it in the early days of each baby but then we just move to change them on the floor or bed or lap or wherever is easiest. It is great as it has lovely wicker baskets so we store the reusables and swimming stuff and baby towels and other baby stuff on it but have to be careful or we just pile stuff on top of it. It also played a major role in DD2 learning how to climb (and then she taught DD1!) as it is so solid and has well-spaced shelves!

photochick Mon 21-Jan-13 22:49:56

picked up a cot top changer today for £5 - total bargain as there is not a mark on it. Doesnt quite match cot but close enough! We are both tall so thought it would be easier than always bending down! It also
saves on space.
Also picked up rocker/bouncer 2nd hand for £10 - again spotless, just needs airing.
Regarding mattresses www.cotmattress.com have a huge range of styles / prices. Thinking of buying from them.
Next midwife appointment I have the whooping cough and anti-d injection and bloods to he taken. That will be fun!
Hope you are all keeping warm and safe in the snow - absolutely none here!

EssexWelsh Mon 21-Jan-13 23:59:22

Novia had mine too last week and it freaking killed afterwards, had a massive lump and was red and was told off by DP for 'whimpering'! I couldn't sleep on my left side for 3 days, phew, thought I was just a total wimp and dreading labour if that was the case wink


aufaniae Tue 22-Jan-13 00:59:04

Got a gestational diabetes test tomorrow (got to have one as I'm officially fat!)

I don't think I've got gestational diabetes, but then I don't know much about it. I hope not!

JaquelineHyde Tue 22-Jan-13 09:22:54

So many appointments this week, I have the midwife tomorrow morning and then on Thursday my 28 week growth scan followed by consultant appointment, and then my GTT on Monday. I also need to ring up and book my whooping cough jab and my physio appointment for the SPD.

On the upside I have just ordered a fantastic new bed and can't wait for it to be delivered on Sunday. At least that will make all the poking and jabbing feel worth while.

Teapig Tue 22-Jan-13 13:17:46

Does anyone have any receipe inspiration? DH is out until about 9pm tonight so I need to make something quick and healthy when I get home that's easy to re-heat for DH. I'm in what DH and I call a food funk, I can't think of anything to make at all and I really want to give the LO some goodness and not resort to a bung in the oven thing. Any ideas are very welcome.

jaqueline, that does sound like a lot of appointments and prodding and poking in a short space of time. At least it gets it over with and you'll get to see you LO again on Thursday plus you have the new bed to look forward to.

WeeHans Tue 22-Jan-13 14:34:48

teapig how about chorizo and chickpea stew? 1 can cooked chickpeas (drain them), as much/little chunks of chorizo as you want. Fry it off with red peppers and onions and chilli flakes and garlic. Add a splash of red if you are ok with that, reduce it down, get a can of tomatoes, slosh them in, add some ground black pepper, reduce down the heat and simmer for as long as it takes a loaf of garlic bread to warm up in the oven. Even better next day.

I checked chorizo on the NHS banned food website, it's fine http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/foods-to-avoid-pregnant.aspx#cured

aufaniae diabetes test is fine. I had it a few weeks ago, try not to worry. The hard bit is the not eating in the morning and the lucozade.

Afternoon all.....quick question: are any of you getting bump tightenings, especially around the sides and top of the bump, 2-3 times a day? They seem to be about half an hour after I've eaten. I can't work out if it's just that or braxton hicks starting. Second timers, any ideas?

edinfirst Tue 22-Jan-13 14:52:23

Ooh weehans that sounds delicious. I am doing chilli with turkey mince tonight.

From the sublime to the ridiculous, do any of you experienced mummies have recommendations for maternity pads? The choice is baffling and I don't want to end up with something uncomfy or ill-fitting. Starting to think about hospital bag, so any other tips on things to take (outside of things on the list that every shop I go into seems to give me) or indeed things not to bother taking also v welcome.

And lastly, how are the knitters getting on? I'm beginning to wish I hadn't chosen a blanket-it is looking good but I'm so bored of repeating the same pattern that it's turning into a real chore sad

edinfirst Tue 22-Jan-13 14:56:05

growyourown I get tightenings at the top of my bump if I've eaten a lot, or, weirdly, if I'm in a hot shower too long. I've had tightening in that bit of bump since very early days so have been assuming not BH but I will look out for replies to your post with interest.

birdbrain17 Tue 22-Jan-13 15:56:49

edin I know what you mean about knitting. I decided to do a patchwork (purple and yellow we're having a suprise) and after about 20 squares out of 50 I got really bored but then I sewed what I had done together and it looked really cute so now I'm excited to finish it, just wish I'd started earlier I'm scared I won't get it done in time!

went to asda last night and bought some cheap baby toiletries and nappies, I'm on a mission now to tick everything that needs doing off my list by the end of half term (that's about 4 and a half weeks time) as we're going away during half term grin and when we get back I want to be able to focus on staying awake during work and cooking for the freezer, I'm starting to get really excited for the baby. DH was so sweet last night, he's only ever felt one or two kicks at a time and last night when we went to bed he felt loads and was getting all concerned that the baby was okay, and did it get scared when it felt him 'pushing' the feet back in when it kicked!!!


ooh, I was thinking the same thing re: maternity pads edin...lets hope we get some good answers on both! smile

birdbrain17 Tue 22-Jan-13 15:57:32

p.s It's our first wedding anniversary today shock grin

Giddypants Tue 22-Jan-13 16:18:46

maternity pads you go through a lot of them! I didn't realise just how much, only bought2 packs of mothercare own brand, I was still in hospital and running out fast so sent DH to go get some more from the sainsbos around the corner, he came back with Kotex sanitary towels, cheapest ones he could find! Anyway they did the job and were much softer than the official maternity pads, so I've gone for them again this time, just bought many more packs lol.

tightening after eating yes usually more likely in the evening, not BH but not sure what causes them

Congratulations birdbrain

Mama1980 Tue 22-Jan-13 17:22:05

Hi everyone,
Congratulations birdbrain happy anniversary smile
Amazing news here-alex has been doing so well and he has been fighting the vent so today he was taken off the ventilator breathed fine on his own and put on Cpap!!!!!!!!! Just a nasal cannula now not the god awful tubes everywhere. My beautiful strong boy. And-yep theirs more grin- they are going to give him his first breast milk feed tomorrow all being well, they are so optimistic he will tolerate it that they have taken me off harmful meds, I am so excited, he looks less sick already and there's power in his little fingers, real strength you wouldn't think it when you see pics of tiny babies but they grip hard!
In the next space there are 24 week twins called will and Seth,born A week after Alex, will is active like Alex and has to be sedated, Seth just sleeps - even now they have different personalities their mum and I were talking all day she is hoping to breast feed too so its great to have someone to hand hold with.
Physio yesterday was crap but right now I don't care! smile

Fluffeh Tue 22-Jan-13 17:24:57

Ooh that stew sounds nice. I'll have to order some veggie chorizo online, I've been meaning to order from them for a while but usually just for sausages so chorizo too makes it more worthwhile smile.

Does anyone know whether tampons will be ok after a cs? I have never used pads in my life and I'm worried that if I have to post baby I'll feel even yuckier.

Saw a good deal on a cold water steriliser at Asda hopefully my local will have one in when we're there on Thursday.

jaq I feel for you, I have the same appointments starting next Friday with mw, then gtt on Monday followed by growth scan and obstetrician on Thursday. Apparently my local hospital don't use lucozade, they have a sugar infused potion instead that tastes like liquid sugar :-/.

Anyone else noticed kicks in the same place as their waistband? If I wear anything that sits on the bump instead of under or over the baby kicks seem loads more frequent and powerful.

Fluffeh Tue 22-Jan-13 17:26:47

X-posted with you mama.
That is really fantastic news about Alex! You must be so proud of him smile.

Mama1980 Tue 22-Jan-13 17:48:15

Thanks fluffeh I am so so proud, I wanna jump up and down except i Can't stand so instead am lying down and waving my arms round manically and grinning!

EmpressMatilda Tue 22-Jan-13 17:50:33

mama That's great news!

Whooping cough jab - I had it on Friday and it was so quick and painless... then I spent a couple of nights wondering what the hell was wrong with ny arm! No lumps or bumps or anything but just really stiff. I thought it might be the jab but it seemed weird. So I guess that it was the jab after all! Well, at least the baby will be better protected. Hopefully!

I''ve been getting those tightenings around my sides and top of bump too. They seem too mild to be BH but perhaps they vary? I just assumed it was 'general tweaking and movement'. I am a novice too though so no idea!

And my piles are back too so whoever posted about that you have my sympathy!

Feeling hungry now after all this food talk. Hope my train gets in soon so I can go home and cook!

29+4 So close to the 30 week mark.

Mama1980 Tue 22-Jan-13 17:52:23

Thanks empress smile hope your arm feels better.

Teapig Tue 22-Jan-13 19:01:35

That's fantastic news mama! So pleased that Alex is getting stronger and stronger.

Thank you weehans for much needed food inspiration. I've just gobbled down a big helping of the chorizo stew and now considering whether to eat DH's portion as well.

grow, I've had tightenings at the top of my bump. They usually happen in the evening, either after I've eaten or not long before bed and are pretty uncomfortable but don't seem to last too long.

Happy anniversary bird! The first one is paper I think, it's a long road to diamond. We're on leather at the moment and graduate to fruit and flowers this year apparently although we're pretty crap at marking it and usually it's a hastily written card, oh the romance.

KelleStar Tue 22-Jan-13 19:35:40

mama such good news! so great to hear little Alex's progress.

chickpea and chorizo stew is a favourite of mine weehans DH isn't impressed with it, but it's delicious with a hunk of crusty bread.

happy anniversary bird we are really crap at celebrating ours as well and a card is about as far as either of us get. We've been married 6 years but together for 15 years, we count the years together more significantly.

fluffeh definately don't use tampons even with a CS, you still pass the same 'stuff' as a VB, so there will be clots and they need to be able to flow out, you need to be able to check for significant clots. Plus it can cause infection, ack, the one they tell you about when you first start using them, is it toxic shock.

TBH for the first week or two I used the boots own brand maternity pads, the thick wodge ones, I'd had an episiotomy and the thick padding was a relief to sit on and didn't pull my stitches. I moved onto their own brand thin maternity pads too for a little while. They are breathable and a little rough because they use more natural fibres and have less of the chemicals to help the more liquid part of the period set. As you should be changing them quite regularly, rather than being worn for long periods. I kept them in the fridge, doused in distilled witch hazel [stocked in our Sainsbo's!] and applied them quite often. I did also rinse after each change as it's quite messy down there, I also had stitches to keep clean and found sluicing the area with the shower head and not using any products to clean, dabbing with a towel afterwards, letting air dry or your kind and loving DH using the warm setting on the hair dryer smile also helps. I also had arnica cream to help with the bruising.

Don't be a hard as nails type and take your painkillers on time, it really does ache for a while. Not that I was, but friends would moan about the pain afterwards and then not take painkillers. If you ask your pharmacist they can give you the stronger paracetamol so you don't have to take as many little pills. Also worth keeping some in your labour/ward bag as I found the reliability of being given painkillers when you need them was a little lacking.

My other tip would be to have a trim before labour 'down there', I bought a cheap beard trimmer and it's easier to keep clean afterwards, especially with the lochia. I still use it now as I think it looks neater and it's easier to keep under control. grin

edin I have quite a few knitting/crochet projects on the go so I can swap and change. I do set myself aside 30 minutes for working on them though, so that I keep on top of it, otherwise it gets really depressing if you are using the same yarn, same stitch for metres. Sometimes I keep going and get a few hours in before bed. I was checking for cute hat patterns today as I want to make one for baby to wear [and I usually take a few extras in for the ward].

Ollibobs Tue 22-Jan-13 19:59:22

Great post KelleStar. As a first timer, I have been wondering about the nitty gritty of the after effects down there. Have no idea of what to expect. Really appreciate your honesty.

EmpressMatilda Tue 22-Jan-13 20:18:27

kellestar Definitely a very helpful post. I already have some of the boots maternity pads at the ready but will prob stock up a bit more! It's so good to get an insight into what it's actually like and what we will actually need.

I for one have no intention of being hard as nails. I'll take all the painkillers they let me have!!!

Novia Tue 22-Jan-13 21:36:21

Mama - great news! Really pleased for you and your family.

Oh good - glad it's not just me feeling the whooping cough pain! grin I have a massive red bump on my arm today and so sore. No wonder babies cry when they have their jabs!

On a different subject - is anyone else trying/has tried hypno-birthing/natal hypnotherapy? I've always been really scared of the idea of labour and the pain, but I read the Maggie Howell book and it made a lot of sense to me. It's all about reconnecting with the natural process of birth, trusting your body and taking away the fear.

It's a bit 'woo' in places, but overall something I feel I want to try. I know that it might not work for me, or things may still go wrong but I figure its worth a try! I also bought the CD which I tried for the first time when I got home home tonight - I promptly fell asleep to it so hoping it does work subconsciously!

I'd be very interested in anyone else thoughts/experiences of this?

steph2412 Tue 22-Jan-13 21:36:39

I had my 28 wk consultant app today scan estimated baby weighed 2lbs 13oz which is just right on my graph but he is lying transverse and breech plenty of time for him to turn yet though! been getting bits for my hospital bag today it seems to be getting close!28weeks

Dysgu Tue 22-Jan-13 22:32:52

Fabulous to read about Alex Mama he seems to be a real little fighter and that is great that he is off the ventilator so 'young'. It is a big milestone for him to be having breastmilk too - I remember when DD1 had her first feed and it seemed a huge amount as they syringed it into her NG tube (it was 2ml and I remember my BIL pointing out that a teaspoon holds 5ml).

I am 'only' 26+6 so a bit behind lots of you but in the last few days it has started to dawn on me that I will be giving birth 'soon' and then it dawns on me that we will have a baby around! I am sure my previous PGs felt so long but this one seems to be taking ages. I think I was rather detached in the early days in case anything happened so it took me quite a long time to get real about this one.

The aftermath of the birth is something I had not really thought about either kellestar so it is good to read your post. I have a stack of maternity pads upstairs ready although I think I moved onto own brand pads pretty quickly. At least when you are home you can change them a lot more often, I am sure I went through dozens and I remember sending DP out to get more. I know what you mean Fluffeh about feeling even more yuck but tbh everything feels a bit yuck afterwards anyway!

I need to have a look for the witch hazel too...

I also have a load of appointments - I am even double-booked for this Friday as they have rescheduled my GTT from last Friday to this one when I already have an appointment for my second lot of steroids. They are in the same place so I guess the jab in in the bum will take my mind of the long wait I have during the GTT!

I am hoping to schedule my whooping cough for the same time as DD2's pre-school booster but it looks like I really will have to be brave if it really does hurt. I have told her she can watch me and so can see how easy it is to have a jab and then she can have hers (but with chocolate buttons).

And we organised our will today - mostly because we needed to set things down in case we should both die... was simple and don't really know why we kept putting it off.

enjay0811 Tue 22-Jan-13 22:59:28

Hi all! More snow here, school closed 2day and comin down heavy again atm. Being confined to the hse is drivin me nuts!

steph u shld have been sent vouchers in an email for the huggies newborn pack, if not, jst email customer services and they'll put them in the post.

Can't remember names sorry but maternity pads - jst go for the supermarket own maternity ones, bigger the better! U will b sore, bruised and swollen down there for a while so the more padding, the better! Def agree bout havin a trim too, esp if ur not used to wearing pads, gets a bit messy and easier to keep clean. I went for night time sanitary pads after a day or so then, didn't feel so much like wearing a nappy! blush

hypno birthing I can't recommend it enough! Listened to the Maggie Howell cd before having dd2 and had such a better experience. Felt calmer, more in control, knew what to expect and jst trusted my body to give birth. Bought the book a few wks ago to refresh my memory this time around. Also resulted in a much quicker labour, bout 3 hrs est labour instead of bout 8 with dd1! May have been cos it was 2nd baby but I thought it helped!

Got lots of appts comin up too - GTT Thurs then whooping cough jab Fri. Dd2 also has pre-school jabs Thurs but Dh is takin her cos I know she'll scream the place down!

braxton hicks been having them on and off for bout 10wks, feels very tight at bottom of bump or all over tho, not jst top like others described. Quite uncomfortable but not painful. Usually happens wen I've been walking a bit or generally over doing it a bit.

Sorry for the epic post, so much to catch up on in a few days! Oh, and fab news mama Alex sounds like he is doin so well!


milktraylady Tue 22-Jan-13 23:06:23

Hi Mama what great news about your wee Alex, and I hope your rehab goes a bit better next go.

Thanks for the aftercare advice fluffeth, I have been wondering about that too. I price checked the maternity pads & was wondering to buy either mothercare boots or tescos.

Novia I had started hypnobirthing classes. Had 2 now. In connjunction with reading the book & doing relax practices each day.
Make sure you have the uk book, a friend lent me the USA one & it's a bit different.
I don't mind the woo, it counteracts all the science in the other books like what to expect book (tho this has been good info too)
I truly feel without hypnobirthing I would (still) be in a state of complete panic about the whole event. I feel I now have a glimmer of hope that I can do this.
Would prefer a general but that's not an option! Scared of cs surgery too. Argh!

And I have some good news, after waiting since September I finally have a nhs counselling perinatal mental health appt next week. Really hope that they can help me work tru the panic I am in. I am just as worried as I was in sept, but got used to feeling it now. Grim.
Anyone else had this/ any tips?
Everyone keeps telling me it will be fine when (the b word) arrives. I bloody hope they are right sad

Fluffeh Wed 23-Jan-13 07:24:27

milktray I hope the counselling appointment goes well. I've no experience of natal anxiety but I used to be terrified of surgery and overcame it by discussing every possible outcome, good or bad, with my surgeons. That helped me feel prepared for anything! As it turned out everything went well each time.

Looks like I'll be adjusting to maternity pads then :-/. I have weird issues with hygiene and I'm going to have to really work on that. Would wet wipes be ok to use?

Anyone got a fail safe tip on how to get comfy in bed? I find I'm waking a lot due to discomfort no matter how I lie or how many pillows I use. My wriggling is keeping DP awake too and I feel really guilty that I'm affecting his sleep too.

MumofWombat Wed 23-Jan-13 07:43:55

Lovely news about mama and Alex!

I've been a bit over emotional today. I'm sleeping dreadfully badly and DS seems to be pushing all my buttons so I feel like an awful mum. It doesn't help that he is trying to drop his nap, so I'm not even getting that time to relax or try to sleep. I know he's just testing boundaries and I'm sure independence, determination etc will be great characteristics when he's older but at the moment I'd love one of those toddlers that does what their Mum says all of the time (seriously, one of the babies in my mothers group is like this! Another pushes even further than DS so in my sane moments I know to be thankful for what I've got!).

Also got to tidy and clean the house tonight. We've got a journalist and photographer coming round tomorrow to take photos of DS for a story about his heart condition and my volunteer involvement in the charity that supports us with it. Think I'll have to cover up the dark circles around my eyes with some make up!

mama fab news on feeding Alex, he's a strong one!

wombat and fluffeh I know what you mean, I'm sleeping terribly, sooo uncomfortable and feel guilty that the disrupted sleep affects DH. I know it's gonna affect both of us when the baby arrives, but its hard. I was a grumpy mare yesterday too. It doesn't help that my work is so boring at the mo so I feel so much in limbo. Still, at least I'm not run ragged. smile

milktray I hope your counselling goes well. I'm seeing the women's health counsellor for anxiety around the birth due to my sister losing my neice one day after birth through complications and EMCS and the baby we lost. I hope you're doing ok. I also find the natal hypnobirthing CDs good and try to listen to it on my commute. PM me if you want to chat.


JoRich77 Wed 23-Jan-13 08:54:09

Hi all

Just want to say that i have been listening to Maggie Howell natal hypnotheraphy CD and started reading the book. I definitely recommend it as made me feel a lot calmer about the birth. milktray I too am thinking about getting referred for counselling, as I have a lot of anxiety. I really hope it doesnt taken as long to get referred here as will have had the baby by then.

As regards sleeping, I have good and bad nights. Have brought body pillow from Argos which was bargain at £10 and that has definely helped with the hips aching.

itsaruddygame Wed 23-Jan-13 10:56:54

Great news about Alex from Mama - you must be chuffed to bits!

Milktray Novia and Jorich my husband and I have been going to hypnobirthing classes for the last 3 weeks - it is our last session this week - then we have a refresher at 37 weeks. It is a group session and last week we discussed our fears and then did a guided meditation/hypno session around realeasing our fears and replacing them with positive thoughts. It was pretty Woo but we both found it useful. It was interesting to see what others fears were and made you feel much more normal as everyone was scared of something! Having said that I am a first timer so I think if you have already had a bad experience then it must be a lot harder.

growyourown it sounds like you have a lot to deal with in terms of your experiences and it must be hard not to be petrified. My brother lost a baby at a late stage a few years ago - thankfully I am past where they were at the time but it still haunts you!

30 weeks today and starting to get rather large!

Thanks Ruddy and sorry to hear about your brother too. I'm working through it, just hadn't anticipated how much it would come up once I was pregnant and heading towards D-day. I can't believe you're into the 30's now! smile

On a lighter note, I've just started getting proper big kicks that I can see from the outside, so that's really exciting and really hits home that there's someone in there!

birdbrain17 Wed 23-Jan-13 13:02:17

Sorry can't remember people's names to reply to posts but firstly thanks for the info about afterbirth, silly question but do maternity pads have wings on them because even with my regular periods I always bleed quite heavily and I've lost count of how many pyjamas I've had to throw out from leaking blood on them...
about sleeping I'm also finding it difficult and keeping DH up half the night, I've tried pillows in every position but normally after about a week it stops helping and I have to change them again at the moment I have a normal pillow and v-pillow for head, one pillow on each side of me (one under bump and one under back) and a cushion between legs....sounds like a ridiculous amount but if it helps me sleep I don't care!

important question when should I go buy nursing bras?! I want to get now so I don't have to go shopping as soon as the baby is born, but apparently your cup size changes again when the baby is born (I'm already really big...) so I don't want to buy now and then they won't fit. Any non-first timers help with advice please confused thanks


eek got whooping cough after school today, I already have a phobia of injections (my friends are laughing at me as I'm adamant I won't have an epidural and they keep saying wait till your in labour...) and now I'm really scared for this one sounds painful!

sorry for the long post wink

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 23-Jan-13 13:19:29

I can't keep up! I've done lots of shifts over the last two weeks and am revelling in a week day off catching up with telly and housework.

bird I have some nursing and some wireless bras already. Nursing are just as comfortable and I'm just not unclipping them get!

For those not sleeping - I was just using pillows but seriously, I am sleeping a million times better now I have a proper maternity pillow. I know £40-odd seems a lot but its worth every penny.

Do you all feel like your bump precedes you now?! I feel like as I go my bump goes first and I follow!


SneezySnatcher Wed 23-Jan-13 17:00:05

Hello all! Just popping in to say how pleased I am to hear Mama and Alex are doing so well!

EssexWelsh Wed 23-Jan-13 18:25:16

Will catch up in a minute but had to share my deal of the day...

Joined Sainsbury's little ones club a couple of weeks ago and got email today to say next time I went in store I would receive voucher at end of shop for free huggies bundle box, so did shop, got voucher, put through free box plus you have to buy one pack of nappies. Here's the bargain bit, huggies are all still 1/3 off even though baby event over, so the box went through as £6.65 but the voucher takes off the original £9.99 so I got the large pack of size 2 nappies for £2.65 instead of £5.99 and the free box, result!!

It's the small things that excite me these days! Right off to catch up on last 2 days on here grin

EssexWelsh Wed 23-Jan-13 18:40:14

Just caught up.

I only have 10 maternity pads at the mo as didn't want to mass buy and find they are not the best.

mama how did the breast milk go today?

Thanks for the tips, I literally have a running notebook now that I jot down everyone's tips in, which is my shopping list of what still to get, witch hazel has now been added as has Maggie Howell's book. This thread has seriously been the most invaluable thing I have got in terms of preparations, haven't picked up one of my maternity books in weeks, only one I have a guilt pleasure for is Myleene Klass' that I read once a week, a chapter for the week I am on, however now knowing her partner left her after baby 2 and just getting married does leave a bitter taste in the mouth whenever I read his extracts, he sounded a bit of an arse even then!

Teapig Wed 23-Jan-13 18:57:02

Thanks for all the really useful posts on hypnobirthing and what to expect post birth. Like essex I haven't picked up a maternity book in a while but find this thread super useful.

Re hypnobirthing, do you need to book a class or can you just read a book and listen to the cd? I'm keen to try but can't get to a class.

28 weeks today, woohoo it's really flying by now

JaquelineHyde Wed 23-Jan-13 19:44:12

Evening everyone.

So good to hear from mama again, what an amazing little boy you have, I hope that the breast milk went ok today, I'm sure you will both be home in no time.

I had my 28 week appointment today and that was a big waste of time, I said I had a few questions (after she asked if everything was ok) and she said ok as long as it isn't a lot of questions shock

So I asked her about getting some proof for uni to support my mit circs etc and she said no I would have to pay the GP to do it as midwives don't do that kind of thing. (luckily uni contcated me today and said they didn't require any further evidence they are just accepting it)

Then I asked about constipation and what was the best thing to take as I have been suffering for several weeks now and I got a lecture about eating properly (which I bloody am!) and then told the GP is the only one who can help me further, So I pushed for a recomendation for over the counter stuff and finally she said well you could try senacot.

I then asked about antenatal appointments and was told I can apply for them and was given a big form to complete but was then told it would be too late for me anyway...Lovely considering I have never been offered them, actually they haven't been mentioned once since I found out I was pregnant.

Feeling really pissed off at this point!!

I then mentioned my concern about going back into hospital to give birth as my last birth was quite traumatic and when they tried to admit me the other month after the accident I had a mini breakdown which shocked me as I didn't realise I had been that affected by it all. Finally a decent responce and she said she will do a home visit to debrief me properly over my last birth (which was 7 years ago) and sort out a plan of action so that this time things are much better.

God this is epic I am so sorry!!

Then I was examined and she couldn't tell how the baby was lying, couldn't find any heartbeat and said that was it and off we went.

Gah what a wasted appointment!

Sorry for the ramble, it was just so frustrating.

Off for my growth scan and consultants tomorrow, so fingers crossed that os a little more productive!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 23-Jan-13 19:54:45

jacq if buying over the counter I'd reccomend lactulose rather than senna personally. I've also found havinga daily probiotic really helps.

Re maternity pads - my friend said don't get maternity pads, just use tenalady! confused Apparently they are better...

Flosshilde Wed 23-Jan-13 21:23:40

Hello all - has taken ages to catch up. I'd lost track of the thread despite the fact I have spent most of the last week not doing very much at all.

Baby is still staying put for now - I get periody type pains overnight most nights (which doesn't help with the not sleeping due to discomfort) but so far they haven't ramped back up into proper contractions and tend to settle during the day. I am resting as much as possible, although sitting on the sofa gives me backache and sitting upright on a chair squashes my bump against my legs as its so low, so I'm uncomfortable whatever I do! I am trying to get out and run an errand every day, plus take DS to nursery to break the day up and stop me going mental with boredom. I am also doing a 1000 piece jigsaw and knitting a cardi, which is most unlike me at all!

Reading everyone's lists of stuff they have got has also made me realise that we should start getting things down from the loft and buying the new mattresses, etc that we need.

Maternity pads - I used Always extra long last time but I understand they are now scented so I will avoid as it is a one way ticket to thrush. I had lochia for 11 (count 'em) weeks last time so was getting pretty sick of using them.

Nursing bras - one of my projects for next week. I am going to try and waddle into tow