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May 2013- boys , girls or the unknown? Over half way there!

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scooby26 Sun 06-Jan-13 18:55:09

Hi all, new had for may 2013!

Wirrawoo Sun 06-Jan-13 19:12:49

Love it!
Hey thanks for the lists people, v useful! Hi newbie, welcome to the May club! It's all getting exciting now. Hard to wrap your head around really. We really are going to have babies in a few months... Someone offered me their seat on the tube a few days ago... Officially look preggers!!!
10 hope you're feeling ok. That sounds like a really full-on workload (scooby too). Look after yourself guys...
I've been doing 6 hour recording sessions all day for last few days and it's hard... Doesn't seem like so many hours but its v physical & my stomach feels like I've done 500 situps. Got a bit freaked out about it as it kind of feels like I've pulled a muscle on my side, but rest seems to make it better. Maybe some of the discomfort was BH? Hard to tell. He's kicking away in there anyway so all good.
Have been hearing some really horrendous stories about post-natal wards (at our hospital in particular). Do any mums on here have any tips about post-natal wards? A friend said to bring noise-cancelling headphones but wouldn't that mean that you can't hear the baby?! A couple of new Dads on my sessions this week were telling me about problems they had with night shift staff. Not really anything we can do to adjust that I know, but does anyone have advice how to make life a bit easier if we have to stay in for a night or two?
23+2. smile

Picklep Sun 06-Jan-13 19:25:14

Thanks Lolly for the list, they're so helpful as a newbie! One question, have heard others mention too...whst is 'tummy-time' and why is it important? Do you do it straight away? How often?

Pickle Tummy time is important to help babies strengthen their neck.Newborns can't support their own head so no you wouldn't start tummy time straight away.

Picklep Sun 06-Jan-13 19:29:36

Thanks for the reassurance about the peeing artigene, things got worse and in the end I went to the doc, I've got a UTI, so am now on amoxacylin, which are making me feel a bit crap. Tucked up in bed but making the most of it and doing some online shopping.

Sorry posted too soon.Some say start tummy time from day one but I waited with both of mine until about 6 weeks.Its during tummy time that they will eventually start pushing themselves.Not an expert opinion mind you just my own smile

shelly81 Sun 06-Jan-13 19:35:24

Tummy time is good for strengthening neck & back muscles its also encourages babies to crawl later on & in my experience from work babies that have done tummy time usually crawl earlier ... You only need to start off with 20 seconds at first tho xxx

GeordieCherry Sun 06-Jan-13 19:52:08

Thanks for the new thread 😊

TheSecretCervixDNCOP Sun 06-Jan-13 20:02:12

Signing back in on the nice new shiny thread. How are we all doing?

berri Sun 06-Jan-13 20:11:14

Thanks scooby smile

MaybeAMayBaby Sun 06-Jan-13 20:24:42

Found you!

Good luck tomorrow, Geordie. I have mine on Tuesday-getting a bit nervous/excited.
Also good luck to everyone going back to work tomorrow. Teachers-is it a 12 or 11 week term? I'm thinking Easter might be the time to go on mat leave?! Might do first day back after as it's moderating day (and a big part of my TLR-but then....relax.

My DD hated tummy time. She was such a quiet baby and happy, but used to scream and scream whenever I tried. She crawled at 9 months (so maybe late) but walked before 1. So don't think it did any damage. She did lift her head if she lay on me iyswim. But never on the floor.

shelly81 Sun 06-Jan-13 20:32:31

Maybe I never did it with boys either they hated it & were much happier on there back both crawled at 9 mnth n walked at 11 so ya can never tell .... Every baba is different :-) xx

MaybeAMayBaby Sun 06-Jan-13 20:52:23

In fact, you've reminded me of the huge guilt I felt about not being able to get her to do it. The poor thing would have a full on screaming fit!
My sister did have a mat with a small cushion to position their arms over-I think it was designed for this. So, basically, their faces weren't squashed up on the floor if they couldn't move their heads. I might invest this time. Probably the only new toy/thing this one will get! (unless I can pinch my DSis!
shelly how funny that both of ours reached those milestones at same time! I remember thinking it was strange she crawled only for a short while. In fact, she was on her feet cruising pretty much the week after so didn't bother much with crawling at all. Although I have heard crawling is good for brain development? Something about linking both sides of brain-corpus collosum (I've not re-looked that up. That may not be what I mean!).

rachywhite83 Sun 06-Jan-13 21:03:41

Maybe I'm looking to finish at Easter ! I have a 1 hour commute to work and back every day so definitely an Easter finish sounds good to me. grin

rachywhite83 Sun 06-Jan-13 21:06:33

59 school get ups if finishing at Easter !

Sisi8 Sun 06-Jan-13 21:40:44

Hi, I am not due til may 30, so waiting til Friday for my scan... So excited. Does anyone have any advice on cot or cotbed. If cot do they go straight to a little bed afterwards? Getting lots of kicks now after my very quiet day last week!.. Definitely getting stronger. So nice to read all the news and to hear lots of hope for you 10. Such a shame we don't all live in same town, what a great time we would have!!

Sparklyboots Sun 06-Jan-13 22:09:22

Hello all, just caught up with everyone post Crimbo, it took AGES to read the thread and now I can't actually think of anything to respond to...

Umm, the list looked good but we really liked cloth nappies for DS, people are always selling their stashes on Natural Mamas (are you allowed to say that here?!) if you are so inclined. Also, we have a lovely bugaboo bought second hand for DS but used less than ten times as we found the wrap much more convenient (we live on the second floor in flats without lifts). Have passed on our wraps and baby nappies so getting a new Moby wrap, haven't decided on nappies yet...

So yeah, if you are somewhere where the pram/ pushchair is going to be awkward in terms of your house or your lifestyle (prams on the tube - effing arse pain) MOBY or wrapsodie or a stretchy wrap is my big recommendation. You can check out videos on youtube for how to tie them, but stretchies (as opposed to wovens) are v. easy to use and you could go to a sling meet before baby showed up to have a lesson off someone...

Re the tummy time thing, we never did it as an activity with DS, but he was wrapped a lot which is meant to help. He actually lifted his head about two hours after he was born - he was lying on my chest tummy to tummy (o, wait - does that count as tummy time?) and lifted his head up to lie looking the other way. It was like a private sunrise, somehow, I feel all teary thinking about it now. Anyway, whatever, he didn't seem to suffer for his lack of structured tummy time - sat unaided at 5mo, crawled at 6, cruising at 8mo, independent walking at 10mo. Actually [boasty emoticon] he is 24 mo and can push up into a handstand (copying daddy). So we aren't so concerned about tummy time here...

Anyway, lovely to have finally caught up with everyone, welcome noobs, hope everyone is enjoying scans etc (and enjoying better treatment at work!!! - those shifts sound awful, 10? And others really putting the work in - sorry I can't remember or look upthread right now ladies). Love x

lollypopsicle Sun 06-Jan-13 22:31:50

Yes, I want a moby wrap this time. Used a sling that crosses over one shoulder a lot with DS but it ached my shoulders after a while so want something that spreads the weight more and think with 2 DC it will be even more useful to have baby close and hands free.

I was put off by the reusable nappies when my sister found them so poor. They are an expensive investment to make if you then find them unsuitable. Having said this, I've read on here of lots of people that think they are great. They are also cost effective in the long term.

Tummy time is also meant to help avoid a flat head at the back which is quite a common occurrence as babies spend so much time lying on their backs. My DS loved tummy time but lots don't. As someone else said, it's not the end of the world if they don't like it.
A good tip from our baby yoga teacher was to lie down yourself on your back and lie the baby on top of your tummy or legs so they don't feel abandoned.

roastpotatoes Sun 06-Jan-13 23:31:02

Officially started preparing for the baby this weekend - spurred on by you lovely ladies and the great lists. We have painted the 'nursery', ordered some curtains and made a start buying some bits and pieces for the little one. So very excited!

mwncigirl Sun 06-Jan-13 23:31:12

A quick hello before I am asleep! We loved our moby wrap and strongly recommend them.

Night night! sad

10storeylovesong Mon 07-Jan-13 06:47:24

Just quickly marking my place...

It's poor scooby that's stuck doing those awful hours - I've been really fortunate with mine so feel that's something I can't grumble about!

Zorra Mon 07-Jan-13 06:48:00

I had a Moby with DS but could never work out how to use it! I suspect that a sling is essential for the baby&toddler combination, so will put a bit more effort into it this time.

GeordieCherry Mon 07-Jan-13 08:48:46

I fancy a sling as well, so thanks for the suggestions!
I'm going to go to NCT & as for a practise smile

Eep, nervous/ excited for our scan

It's going to be a shock to the system going back to work tomorrow!

PandaOnAPushBike Mon 07-Jan-13 11:03:09

Tummy time didn't exist when my daughter was a baby. She's 19 now and has just started university. She manages to hold her head up ok grin

GeordieCherry Mon 07-Jan-13 11:13:56

Hope your scan goes well today Beaver!

Ellypoo Mon 07-Jan-13 14:26:36

I bought some tiny baby vests & sleepsuits this weekend - figured that the baby is going to be early (36 weeks latest), so it isn't going to be huge! Only bought 5 vests & 3 sleepsuits for now, but may get more later on. Want to get a new pram/travel system too, but definitely not going to get that until the baby is safely here.

Good luck for your scan beaver.

Hope you are doing ok 10, have you decided what to do about work or are you just going to see how you get on?

I am going to work out later on how to use up my leave - am really struggling already, doesn't bode well for the next few months!!!

22 + 6

betsyb75 Mon 07-Jan-13 14:42:56

Hi, thanks for the new thread Scooby and thanks to eveyone who has posted lists of things to get- I feel a little panicky about all the things i need to buy, so much to think about but so exciting.

Good luck to everyone having scans x

I'm getting really obsessed with prams and pushchairs- I'm finding myself on pram websites and staring at people with prams and really wanting to talk to them about how they like them! DP says I'm verging on being a nutter pram junkie!

Just sorted my maternity leave out too, with my holidays added on, I will leave a week before Easter so 22nd March will be my last day, with a week added on at the end of my leave. I just know that it's going to whizz by so fast.


Boodstress Mon 07-Jan-13 14:49:35

Just caught up with the new thread and the end of the last. I can't believe all the 'what we need for the baby' lists already. I still feel like there is such a long road to come before I finally get to meet this little one. 23+3 today. Maybe i need to do some thinking. As its DC3 and I have 2DSs we are keeping the sex as a surprise however it hasn't stopped me researching 'conceiving a girl' everywhere. I know lots of people who followed the Shettles method or who basically stopped any business from ovulation day onwards. Just wondered if anyone pregnant with a baby girl knows what day they conceived in they're cycle? If think I was +12 based on my LMP. I know I'm crazy and should have found out but i was determined not to. I think my hormones are sending me a bit crazy.. I also cried all weekend but I think that's January for you :-)

Thanks for starting the new thread Scooby. Had my first attack of pregnancy brain today - went into school all geared up and ready to teach, it took me 15 minutes to work out that the reason it was unusually quiet was that we're still on holiday! So back to work tomorrow then blush.

Have my scan tomorrow, then I can start thinking about the (hopefully few) things we need to get for our Belgian Bun.


Bood I conceived at least 4 days before ovulation and we are having another boy so I definitely don't believe in the shettles theory.Not that we were trying for a particular sex.Im looking forward to a ds3.

I'm have a terrible head cold.Im fed up with keep getting ill now.Also heartburn has kicked in and it just makes me feel so sick.Have thrown up twice today.Ive nothing in and no way I can venture out so I'm just drinking milk at moment so hope it helps hmm

Oops should have said dtd at least 4 days before ovulation.That makes more sense my brain isn't working

beaver33 Mon 07-Jan-13 16:02:16

Thanks for remembering, Geordie - are you today too? It's not until 6pm so DH can come.

Saw the midwife earlier today and everything is good, with a strong heartbeat of 140bpm, so fingers crossed the scan won't show up anything of concern.

Curious to know if my instinct is right - DH says boy, I say girl and in a couple of hours I'll know either way! How strange that feels, knowing this little bump will have more of an identity so soon...

Eek! x

Beaver Good luck with scan.Wonder if its another one for the pinks then to even it out smile

Boodstress Mon 07-Jan-13 16:25:31

beautician thanks for that and sorry you're feeling so rubbish. I adore my Boys so Ill be thrilled with either and wasn't trying to conceive a girl but as I know I'll never have another baby so VERY curious now.

Mamabrussels that is the funniest thing I've heard. I frequently walk out of the butchers without the meat I paid for and they all scream out the door after me in front of multiple school mums blush

10storeylovesong Mon 07-Jan-13 16:27:58

Apparently mother's instinct is right 70% of the time when guessing the sex...

Good luck at scans today.

I went into work and it was fine. The supervisor I needed to speak to isn't in until 12th but I spoke to another sgt who told me to play it day by day, so if I feel ill or bleed I can just leave work. And he gave me his mobile number so if I can't get into work I don't have to worry about phoning in and can just send a quick text when I can.

10 with previous two pregnancies I bought blue both times without finding out the sex. This time I did think girl as pregnancy is so different. However, I didn't have a strong feeling either way like before.

Your work sound great.Have you had anymore bleeding or does it seem to have settled for now.When will they check again to see if you are healed.

10 Sorry just read back and saw you have another scan on 15th.Baby brain already there really is no hope for me.

Bunnychan Mon 07-Jan-13 16:42:15

I haven't got a clue whether I'm having a boy or girl; so much for mothers instinct. Now, I'm sorry to do this on a shiny, new thread but

major tmi warning
I'm really suffering from constipation today so much it hurts! :-( been going off an on but not enough at all. I'm seeing the midwife on thurs but in the meantime, any advice?

Bunny I've been suffering with constipation this pregnancy having never previously suffered.I found drinking orange juice and eating soreen malt loaf worked for me.However, I know if nothing works to ahem get things moving then you can get lactolose from doctor

Picklep Mon 07-Jan-13 16:57:34

Bunny Me too!!! Just today and I've never suffered with it before. I called DH at work in tears it was so bad and now I have piles too. I honestly thought at one point on the loo I would need to go to hospital, because I needed to go but just couldn't. DH brought home prune juice, prunes and bran flakes aswell as pile cream and ice cream (to comfort eat!), i've had a lot of juice and a bowl of bran, have since managed to go and feel much better. Hope you feel better soon.

Thanks all for the tummy time info, so grateful to hear everyone's experiences, so reassuring.

Bunnychan Mon 07-Jan-13 17:01:21

I'm glad it's not just me! I need to go but it feels like something's in the way and then my baby keeps kicking me too which is nice but isn't helping at all. I drink loads of water and I have high fibre cereal but that's not working at all x

I find sudocream gets rid of my piles straight away too blush Gosh so embarrassing.

DP is bringing home gaviscon for my heartburn bleurgh.This pregnancy is so glamourousgrin

The heartburn's kicking in for me too Beaut. Pickle & Bunny, I used to make a chocolate and prune cake for my Dad who's diabetic. It always had a laxative effect! I suppose chocolate cake is a bit more palatable than bran flakes and prune juice.

cuppateaandagingersnap Mon 07-Jan-13 17:47:51

I'm another one miserably bunged up here, I've been taking fybogel and lactulose with bran, prunes, loads of water etc and that just about lets me go but unfortunate side effect of lactulose is windblush had to make a speedy exit from a shop earlier when some particularly noxious fumes accidentally escaped blush blush

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 07-Jan-13 17:57:31

Oh, Mamma! That is so funny! Was it a training day or were there no teachers in too?

Constipation-for DD who suffered a lot over the past 3 years-I found orange juice and sugar (brown apparently works best confused) water is good. Good luck. I seem to have had the opposite the last couple of days.

geordie and beaver how have things gone?

Argh. beaver, I guess you won't know for another 10mins at least!

10 and scooby, your police officers aren't you? I vaguely remember from the first thread. That means I'm even more shocked you're doing those shifts wcooby. Have they not got you in the office like 10?

Right. I'm confused about matB1 forms. And seen as some of you are a few weeks ahead, I thought you might know. I've tried google and I'm still none the wiser!
A conversation with my boss today (and she is usually someone whose word I would take for granted) seems to think I should have my matB form at 20 weeks! She was shocked when I told her 21, and from last time I thought I remember it being 28. Anyone? I so read on my google search that I need to let them know officially when I'm going off on mat leave by 15 weeks before due date. That's in a 4 weeks then! I better make a decision. And for some of you-isn't that even sooner?

21 weeks today! Yikes. I'm having this one at 38 weeks so time is ticking. Where on earth has the time gone?

CluelessNewbie1 Mon 07-Jan-13 19:19:17

Hi everyone, just wanted to share my frustration! I had my 20 week scan today - good news is the baby is healthy (yey) bad news is he/she had legs crossed and was in a bad position for scanning his/her head so have a three week wait for another scan - which is good as I get to see him/her again but also a little frustrating as I am incredibly impatient (silly I know). MaybeAMayBaby - I got my MATB at the scan from the midwife x

shelly81 Mon 07-Jan-13 19:29:29

Yeah maybe I got mine at 20 weeks xxx :-))

I haven't had my matb1 yet.I last saw midwife at 16 weeks and won't see her again until 28 weeks.So presume ill get mine then?

Not sure what I do with it though as I'm self employed confused

aberjen Mon 07-Jan-13 19:47:09

I'm supposed to get matb1 at 25-week GP appointment, according to The Schedule. Everything seems to vary a bit betwen hospital trusts as far as I can work out.

Re: ahem, 'bathroom habits' I must have all things pregnancy related on my brain at the mo - couldn't help smiling at email from colleague with title 'Movements this week'!

Ellypoo Mon 07-Jan-13 20:08:51

maybe you get your matb1 any time after 20 wks, generally at your 24 wk MW appt. employment law has recently changed so you need to notify your employer by 15 weeks before EDD but you don't need to hand in your matb1 until at least 1 month before your SMP is due to start.
If you are self-employed, once you have your matb1 you can apply for MA so that it's all in place by the time you want it to start.

I haven't suffered too much with constipation this time thank goodness, but remember I had it terribly after my c-section last time. Apparently glucose suppositories should help if it's really bad - anything you take orally will only help from the top, rather than the bottom, iykwim!!

scooby26 Mon 07-Jan-13 20:22:47

Maybeababy- you can get matb from from 20 weeks pregnant- generally you get it from whomever yo see at an appointment after that. My last midwife appt was 16 weeks and as this is no2 I dont see her again until 28 weeks. I may be wrong but I think you HAVE to complete mat1a by 15 weeks before EWC and hand in mat1b at least 28 days before you wish to go off.

Maybeababy- yes you remembered correctly ;-). I am office based ( was anyway) but have particularly poor bosses ( annoyingly the same one I had last time I came back from maternity has followed me to my current job!). They seem to imagine pregnancy is ' not an illness' and as such you will work as usual hours wise.... I will be off to the gp next week for a fit note- I think I've done my bit now. The same bosses have just banned all flexible working in my dept ( hmm not quite sure how that works...) so returning will be interesting!

Still hoping t move house in next few weeks signed contracts today and hoping all goes t plan and we exchange this week tho there is much Agro re move dates and other minor things presently so fingers x.

Scan here tomorrow.... Hoping all ok.... Gut feeling is a girl but we are NOT finding out ( unless really obvious ;> )

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 07-Jan-13 20:33:23


Another one here with constipation, getting a bowel mvt out today I was reminded of what is was like pushing DD out!!! Oh well all good practise I suppose!

mamabrussels very funny! I turned up at school today thinking it was very quiet but quickly realised there were no students today! I was dreading this week as it's my first proper week back after pneumonia but it's been lovely and relaxing! And I realised I'm finally feeling back to normal after 2 mths of feeling dreadful, hoorah!

I got my matb at my 20 wk appt.

clueless good news on e scan but so frustrating when they keep their legs crossed! DD did that and it was our only chance to see, but she was a lovely surprise as everyone said I was having a boy!

Back at work after 2 mths off and I find out that about 5 other women are pg, we're all between 15 and 30 wks! People keep saying there's something in the water! One woman is one wk behind me and I wouldn't know she was pg, I look like a beached whale next to her shock 22+6.

I've just bought a very cute outfit online with Cookie Monster all over it, the first thing i've bought, now i'm looking forward to finding nice boys clothes.

beaver33 Mon 07-Jan-13 20:35:27

Well...I was right - it's a GIRL! Another one for Team Pink. Am so happy to have seen her again and feel slightly stunned now. It feels like the bump finally has an identity. Absolutely incredible.

Was also lovely that DH got to feel a kick for the first time last night.

I am totally, completely in love with this little wriggler, even though she had her hands in front of her face through the whole scan...

Hope Geordie got on well today and good luck for tomorrow scooby.

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 07-Jan-13 20:38:54

Forgot to say, scooby sorry to hear your bosses are so useless, hope mat leave rolls on very soon.

And hi to everyone else and the new people!

The second thing I have bought is a swaddle blanket as it really helped DD sleep better, even thought she fought it like a hell cat to start with. The only thing I care about is getting slightly more sleep this time round, and I'm praying this one isn't colicky.

GeordieCherry Mon 07-Jan-13 20:50:15

Argh, did a really long post & now it's disappeared!

Scan today was lovely. All anomalies they can check are ok.

It was wriggling loads, waving & legs on the move which was great to see. Especially after it was asleep last time. I've put the 2 scan pics next to each other on the shelf. What a transformation!

We can now start planning & accepting the really generous offers we've had from friends

Any travel system/ pram/ buggy recommendations??

shelly81 Mon 07-Jan-13 20:57:28

Congrats beaver team pink are catching up glad your scans were ok ladies Xxx

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 07-Jan-13 21:11:01

Thanks for eveyones help regarding mat1B. Never heard of mat1a, Scooby! I don't think hospital will give me one tomorrow. I remember last time at about 26/27 weeks asking for one and they said only midwife had them. I will ask though!

scooby get the fit note. I think some 'managers' take the piss. I expect mine will be too. My DH works in same school and he made a comment today that he can see them piling it on me over the next few weeks to try and get as much out of me before I go. I'm not a HOD, but I do most of the HODs job (he is pretty unwell with chronic illness tbf). They are even fitting in a department inspection just before Easter to make sure 'I don't miss it'. Gee. Thanks. Just what I need at 30+ weeks.

Congrats beaver an Geordie! Who else? clueless?. I have mine tomorrow. Very nervous. I remember last time it was like holding my breath pretty much whole way through. DD sat on the wand legs a kimbo last time. Sonographer said 'well I guess we all know now '. I had to explain to her that no, I still had no bloody idea. DH really wants a boy. I'm not sure I mind. So it'll be a girl I expect smile.

Just caught up on last weeks OBEM. Cries my eyes out! Not sure watching this series is a good idea atm.

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 07-Jan-13 21:15:34

Geordie I had the baby city mini jogger. I spent (3.5 years ago) hours researching before investing last time. I can't fault it really. Had lots of women coming up to me to ask about it etc around town! The fold is pretty fab and the hand pull to do it makes a great handle. Downsides-the carseat did attach on-but I found that a bit bulky. In the end I rarely bothered. I'm thinking of getting a carry cot for it this time around.
I am slightly swayed by the vista though. Can't justify it.

GeordieCherry Mon 07-Jan-13 22:03:49

Thanks Maybe! (You should change that to definitely!)

We've been offered a separate car seat which would be good to just keep in the car

Want to walk on bumpy pavements with the buggy & get in & out of a weeny terrace

10storeylovesong Mon 07-Jan-13 22:07:41

So glad to hear of all the good scan results today.

I was told the policy near me is to only give the matb form at a 25 week appointment. I've informed my workplace of intention to finish at 37 weeks so 19th April, and I just have to forward the form afterwards.

I've just back from hospital yet again with another bleed. Baby's heartbeat is fine though and the doctor was happy that it was blood being released from the clot so hopefully a good thing.

roastpotatoes Mon 07-Jan-13 22:11:16

Great to hear about the good scans today and good luck tomorrow (seasalt, maybe.. others? sorry hard to keep up).

Here's the updated stats - the girls are indeed making a come back. Apologies if I've missed anyone...

Boys:16 (picklep, cuppa, beaut, 10, wilde, chottie, betsy, frankie, mwncigirl, secretcervix, artigene, wirrawoo, tas, flaming, seasalt, goldmaple)

Girls:12 (roast, babygeek, reeny, berri, jenpen, shelly, sparkly, mamabrussels, moll, lolly?, aberjen, beaver)

Surprise:9 (bunny, twinkling, littlespade, terracotta, Geordie, ellypoo, boodstress, geordie, rachy)

roastpotatoes Mon 07-Jan-13 22:20:33

Sorry to hear that you've had another bleed 10 - but glad that they were encouraging at the hospital. Do take it easy - a few days of doing not very much might be in order.

cuppateaandagingersnap Tue 08-Jan-13 00:10:06

I second roast’s advice 10 I know you feel better busy and I know that there are different schools of thought on whether bed rest makes any difference in these sorts of situations but all the same if you were my patient I think I would suggest it anyway as unlikely to hurt and may just help, up to you and your doc obviously and not trying to stick my oar in honest!

SeaSalt1 Tue 08-Jan-13 00:38:27

Morning everyone! It's scan day <takes long deep breath and thinks positive thoughts)>. Mine's at 3pm Singapore time (7am GMT), will let you know how it goes, please send positive thoughts our way. Scooby and Maybe I think you are both today too - I will be thinking of you!

SeaSalt1 Tue 08-Jan-13 00:40:26

p.s. 10 sorry to hear about the bleed, glad you got some reassurance but all the same must be a bit frightening for you. Hope everything heals up very soon.

10storeylovesong Tue 08-Jan-13 07:01:52

Good luck with all the scans today!

mwncigirl Tue 08-Jan-13 07:45:23

Thinking of youseasalt smile

10 Sorry to hear about a further bleed but hopefully it's healing.

Seasalt Sending those positive thoughts your way grin enjoy your scan.

I haven't slept.On the plus side the ds's are back to school today so I get some peace. I've had to call in sick for work they aren't happy. But I can't go in breathing my germs over everyone

10 Sorry to hear about a further bleed but hopefully it's healing.

Seasalt Sending those positive thoughts your way grin enjoy your scan.

I haven't slept.On the plus side the ds's are back to school today so I get some peace. I've had to call in sick for work they aren't happy. But I can't go in breathing my germs over everyone


ng1412 Tue 08-Jan-13 10:26:42

Hello all, had my amnio this morning, ouch it hurt! Was not very nice, more a strange feeling than anything else I guess but gyne said it went well. Have to wait 2 to 3 weeks for the results. I am now resting on the sofa while DH and PIL look after DD.

Good luck to all those having scans today.

scooby26 Tue 08-Jan-13 10:56:26


Hope yr scans ok seasalt and maybe.

Just had ours. All fine! In the 'don't know' camp by choice ;-)


SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 08-Jan-13 11:03:58

Found you all! I completely fell off the old thread, but I'm back and will try to keep up this time.

10 sorry to hear about the bleeding, but glad hospital are happy that the baby is fine.

Wow so many people have had their scans and know what they're having. Mine isn't until the 23rd when I'll be 21+5, guess I must be the last one. I had still only been feeling tiny flutters, but felt the first proper kick last night.

I used a sleepy wrap (like a moby but a bit more stretchy) with DD and really loved it, can't wait to use it with a newborn again. It was a big fiddly at first but I found it really easy once I'd got used to how to tie it.

DD is teething badly at the moment, I've been up since 1:10 this morning, little monkey.

seasalt hope your scan went well smile

ng1412 Tue 08-Jan-13 11:34:30

Meant to say we are also in the 'don't know' corner by choice!

Seven I feel your pain, my 20 month old DD has been teething with her molars this week, been up each night at ungodly hour feeding the poor little thing calpol. Thank god for that stuff!

Ahh I loved not knowing it is nice knowing the sex this time.I would have happily waited if it wasn't for ds1.

I told a few mums at the school today and got a lot of 'oh maybe they got it wrong' commentsangry I hope not now that I've bought a green pushchair and some boy clothes grin

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 08-Jan-13 12:21:43

Sorry about the comments beaut, I'm sure next time they'll soon stop if you tell actually you're thrilled to be having another boy. And in my experience the old sayings are true, that boys are more loving than girls and boys are easier babies. DS was such a laid back baby, 10 times easier than DD is!

We'll be hopefully finding out what we're having. DH is certain its a girl, I'm leaning towards boy but I really don't know. I've been certain with both of the other two.

Meant to say we've got nursery furniture coming on Thursday. No idea where we're going to put it though, there's still a ton of rubbish to clear out of the nursery!

Glad I'm not the only one suffering ng, hope it improves soon smile

Hope you're feeling ok now 10

Just back from my scan. Definitely a girl and definitely a wriggler - wouldn't keep still. Got all the info from the hospital about admissions, pre-natal visits and aqua-gym classes whatever they are! Just got to sort out a kinae now...

Seven We have nursery furniture coming next Friday.So far stored in the nursery we have pushchair,carrycot,carseat,Moses basket,steriliser,bottles,bath box and clothes.Going to need a bigger house grin

Mama Congrats.The girls are definitely catching up now.Aqua gym sounds like it could be fun.

How's the heartburn I'm drinking gaviscon now.Yuck.

Ellypoo Tue 08-Jan-13 13:40:20

That's great news mamma - congratulations - another for team pink, girls have almost caught up now, haven't they!

I'm sorry you have had another bleed 10, but so positive that hb is strong and that they are happy that the clot is starting to drain/heal.

I think my baby has finally moved positions a bit, so hopeful for the scan on Friday - would be 3rd time lucky!! Movementss are a bit more 'muffled' and in a different place - lower down and more to the left of my belly button, whereas before they were definitely to the right and almost level with my belly button.

My heartburn doesn't seem to be too bad at the moment, unless I eat later at night, and it hurts when I lie down. I do have a huge bottle of gaviscon by the bed, but it tastes so horrid, that I'm so pleased that my heartburn has calmed down a bit!!

SeaSalt1 Tue 08-Jan-13 13:45:56

Congratulations on your scans Mamma and Scooby. I had mine and all is well, such a huge relief, I had an enormous chocolate cupcake to celebrate smile It turns out we're growing a big'n - all his measurements were towards the top end of the scale and the width of his head is quite literally off the chart for 20 weeks <gulp>. Not too surprised as large baby boys run in both families (DH is 6'4"). Must remember to do my pelvic floor exercises...

Maybe, hope your scan went ok, thinking of you.

You ladies are so organised with your purchases! We bought a very lovely baby grow today in celebration after the scan but that is all so far. I suppose it makes sense to buy things when we get back to London but I would love to be taking full advantage of the sales!

Seven and ng - hope the teething improves soon, fingers crossed for a better night's sleep tonight.

Beautician hope you feel better soon, and sorry to hear the mums at the school gates were so thoughtless, I'm sure you've done the right thing with the pushchair and boy's clothes.

Ellypoo Tue 08-Jan-13 15:29:49

Oh that's great news seasalt xxx Can you order stuff in the sales to be delivered & stored at your Mum's or anywhere?

berri Tue 08-Jan-13 16:09:53

Congrats mamma, seasalt & scooby!

NG glad your amnio went ok, hope you're still not in any pain? I don't know how you ladies with young kids do it, DS is 4 now and luckily (touch wood!) sleeps through every night. I think I'd be knackered if I had to get up to him as well as being generally knackered!

ng1412 Tue 08-Jan-13 16:36:42

Hi berri not in any pain now but taking it easy for next few days. I am just lucky my DH took this week off as his parents are visiting. Normally I struggle to lift my DD up the stairs!

Yay! All good scan news - congrats all round I think. Beaut, the heartburn is coming and going - how's yours? I have a pack of chewable Renee on me at all times, I can't stand Gaviscon! Sorry to hear the school gate mafia are being a bit crap - why would anyone be disappointed about having a DS?

ArtigeneAuberchoke Tue 08-Jan-13 17:40:18

It is lovely to read about all the good scans. Congratulations to everybody.
Ng – I am glad that they were finally able to conduct your amnio. How long will it take to get the results? Rest up lots and hopefully any funny pains will disappear.
Seasalt – My first two always had heads that measured off the scale (and tummies to match, although their legs were always on the short side!). I just wanted to give you some words of comfort: my DD2 was born weighing over 10lbs with a head on the 100th centile and yet her birth was really not too bad (I only pushed for 15 minutes and there was no tearing). It was certainly an easier birth than her sister’s who was a little smaller, so do not worry too much about having a big’un but do remember those pelvic floor exercises.
Beut – I’m sorry to hear that you are on the receiving end of some odd comments about DS3. I am finding that when I tell people we are having a DS after 2 DDs they all say things like “that must fulfil your dreams” or “you got there in the end”. It is driving me crazy. I did not get pregnant in the hope of a particular gender, I would have been so happy with three DDs, but nobody seems prepared to believe me.
Elly – fingers crossed that you are right and the baby has finally shifted. Good luck for Friday’s scan.
10 – How are you doing? Sorry to hear you had another bleed.
On the subject of baby shopping I have done NOTHING. I think it will stay that way. With DC1 I loved getting all the nursery furniture, little clothes and equipment but looking back I got way too much and really much of it was unnecessary, I don’t regret it as it was exciting and all part of the experience but I definitely did not really need most things. With this being DC3 it feels like a challenge to do the opposite and survive on what we have got. I stupidly gave away the nursery furniture but friends are lending me a moses basket and cot and that is really all that is needed. I also gave away the monitor but its not like our house is huge and to be honest I don’t want to be aware of every whimper this time! I have loads of pink clothes and dresses which I will Ebay but I think we have enough unisex to survive given I know we will get lots of boy clothes gifts and hand-me-downs. I don’t have a baby gym etc but this time I figure that the baby will have its sisters to watch and they will probably be more amusing than the gym. So I think we are OK expect that I need a steriliser, some formula and a few bottles. I breastfed before and I never gave the girls a bottle so I have nothing like that, this time I think I might try and mix feed so that I can leave the baby with DH occasionally and still have one-on-one time with the girls. Any experienced mixed feeders out there who can recommend a formula and bottle brand that a mainly BF baby is likely to take?

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 08-Jan-13 18:15:36

Another girl!!

Baby is fine but really quite small. Trying not to worry by have to go back for a scan in 3 weeks at 24 weeks. Apparently that is when they properly start checking for growth. My DD was small (6lbs 3oz and a tiny 9th percentile head circumference) so I guess it migh be genes.

My DH is a bit disappointed with the gender which has upset me a bit. I love being a mummy to a girl and on my side of the family, the last 10 babies born over 3 generations have all been girls! Very weird. So I feel I'd not know what to do with a boy anyway. I guess there is a bit of me that is a little disappointed, but I think that's more to do with DH. He better get over it quick or I'll have to sort him out.
DD is pleased!

High bp too. In fact I'm really sufferring with headaches too. The dr won't prescribe bp meds yet but I think it's on the cards.

ArtigeneAuberchoke I used aptamil as was told by midwife it's supposed to taste most like breast milk. She only had one bottle a day after a month or too, but needed on straight after delivery (syringe) as she wouldn't latch and her blood sugar was on low side. Also used tommee tippee bottles closer to nature. But I was very lucky with mixed feeding. Never an issue with confusion although because she was airtime early and small it took her 2-3 weeks to latch, so I expressed and bottle fed. I then used nipple shields to try and get her back on breast. Took a day and she got it! No more shields after that.

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 08-Jan-13 18:27:37

Congrats mamma, sesalt and scooby! Was there someone else? It's such a relief to get it out of the way.

And N, I bet you are more than relieved the amino is over. Finger crossed for you.

Who is left for scans? Looks like all the girls are towards end of May!

shelly81 Tue 08-Jan-13 18:49:00

Artigene I keep getting that too some ppl are just so stupid .... GTT tomorrow so nil by mouth from 8.30 tonight booooooo xxxx

ng1412 Tue 08-Jan-13 19:02:12

Thanks maybe and congrats on having another girl. I would be over the moon for another girl as I am one of two girls of close ages and we had fun when we were kids and are now very close still. I really don't care whether I have a boy or girl, at this moment in time it seems a long way of for me with the amnio hurdle to get over first.

Artigene our gyne said two weeks, he will phone them through apparently. Just realized we don't have an answer phone on our landline or any way of seeing who called last. Think I may have to get a new phone ASAP....

Have horrible indigestion but staying off the chocolate seems to have helped and of course gallons of gaviscon smile.

Shelly good luck, I am going for my GTT test some tme next week, typical France they just let you go in when you want for it. I have been putting it off but I am putting loads of weight on so may have to drag myself back to the hospital again next week. I am there every week at the moment!

Ellypoo Tue 08-Jan-13 19:39:00

I will have my GTT at 28 weeks - not looking forward to it, just because it will be so boring waiting for 2 hours at the hospital!!

23 + 0

Ellypoo Tue 08-Jan-13 19:39:33

Can you give your mobile number to the doc ng, just in case? Hope these next 2 weeks go quickly for you xx

beaver33 Tue 08-Jan-13 20:17:25

Aaaargh, need to vent! At a time of great financial pressure I just had 200 quid nicked out of my bank account...and the circumstances are making me feel like a complete idiot.

Was at a busy train station on Friday night, being sent off on a work job, and while I was at a cash point a bloke came up and was being really rude and aggressive and pushing buttons.

I know, I know, weird. I shouted at him and pushed him away but he was well-dressed and foreign and kept insisting he'd just had his card swallowed and was trying to help. God this sounds so silly written down.

I told him to leave me alone, and successfully got my card out of the machine. Man had gone. But just checked my account and money has gone. I def didn't withdraw it.

Reported to the police/bank etc but now so annoyed with myself. And I won't get it back if bank can show the machine dispensed it.

Has spoiled what should have been a lovely few days for us sad and I can't afford to lose that money....


ng1412 Tue 08-Jan-13 20:19:36

Ellypoo I should have done that this morning, doh! Otherwise it means ringing the receptionist and trying to explain in my rubbish French as she refuses to doesn't speak English...

ng1412 Tue 08-Jan-13 20:23:48

beaver so sorry to hear that, it wasn't your fault though so don't beat yourself up, I would have done the same thing and I am sure most others would. When things like that happen it is fine to look back and think in hindsight I should have done xyz but at the time you are reacting to a strange situation.

Doesn't the bank have cctv to prove it happened?

Ellypoo Tue 08-Jan-13 20:30:57

Oh no beaver, what a nightmare - CCTV is a good idea, if it was at a train station, surely there will be some that the police can access? If it goes nowhere with the bank, is there a chance your home insurance might cover it? Mine covers cash out of the house, might be worth a check?

berri Tue 08-Jan-13 20:56:57

congrats maybe!

Beaver that's awful, poor you sad Don't be hard on yourself, if someone leans over your shoulder and starts poking around it's a totally weird situation and these people are VERY well practised in distracting you so they can get what they want.

I'm sure the police can help - even if the machine dispensed it, it still wasn't dispensed to YOU so it's still theft. I hope they can help you. All cash machines have the cameras on now too as well.

flowers to you, what a rotten thing to happen.

Rhienne Tue 08-Jan-13 21:35:31

Wow you lot post loads! Every time I think I'll read the new posts then add a hello, I never get to the end!

Anyway. We're still here. LO's kicking hard, making presence felt. smile

This is DC2. Some of the gear we have/had and appreciated includes:

Teutonia Cosmo pram. Had the carry cot for the first 6 months, now the buggy seat. Also bought the attachment for our...

Maxi Cosi Cabriofix.

Baby Björn carrier.

Babylonia Tricot Slen wrap grin

When a bit older: Onya Baby carrier.

We have an Ikea cot. When DS was tiny we had it with the bottom up high, and him crossways, with a barrier across the middle so it was only half length. As he grew he went right way round, then we dropped the base as soon as it looked like he was rolling over and grabbing for the sides. Never had a Moses basket.

For this new baby, I'm looking at getting a Newborn inset for the Tripp Trapp chair, so baby can be up at our level at meals (and as someone else put it "away from big brother's pverenthusiastic hugs and kisses").

Baby Björn bouncer.

Lots of muslin cloths.

For whoever it was upthread who said they are obsesses with prams, I so know what you mean. I was obsessed with DC1 and am almost as bad again now. I have (more than once) stopped someone on the street to ask about their pram and if they are happy with it. blush We are looking at getting a Mountain Buggy Duet, and I'm a bit tempted to get it now and use it for DS with the shopping bag instead of the second seat, as it's wheels will be better for slushy snow than the Cosmo. Although I quite dislike people with 1 1/2 width or double prams who don't really need them, on the buses or at daycare, taking up more space than they need to!

Fingers crossed for those of you with worrying bleeds, or difficulties at work.

Wirrawoo Wed 09-Jan-13 00:18:05

Oh rhienne I love the look of those Tripp trapp chairs. We are coveting one with the newborn insert but will see how we go with other stuff first. What a great idea with the ikea cot. We are going to have a cot from the start because, apart from budget considerations, we have a cat and I think a Moses basket would be too tempting for her to sleep in! Was worried about it seeming cavernous for a little one though, going width-ways at first seems like a really interesting solution. What did you make the partition from? Would an angelcare movement sensor monitor work if he was sleeping that way around do you think? Haven't seen how big it is yet.

beaver what a total bugger!!! Totally sympathise, that is so crappy. sad I agree that hopefully you should be able to get it reimbursed from the bank. Cn you report it to the police? Did he take the money out then or did he do something shifty to your card? CCTV should def show it and I've often found that just hassling the bank until they give in can work a treat (speaks the long time self-employed master of living in overdraft horror!)

10 hope you're feeling ok.

Have been having weird low down pains all day, they are freaking me out a bit. Could bubs just be poking me somewhere strange, is it pelvic type growing pains or could it be a UTI? It seems too low down for baby but i guess his foot could be sticking into something there. Whenever anything feels similar to the old endometriosis pain I freak out a teeny bit. Couldn't have dinner until really late and got massively lightheaded and dizzy/breathless without food. Skipping meals isn't quite the same when you've got a bun in the oven! All in all feeling very odd health wise today. Anywhoo, maybe a nights sleep will fix it. Thanks for the info about MATB1 forms guys, you minded me to get one sorted!
Hope all those not feeling so good get better soon thanks

rachywhite83 Wed 09-Jan-13 08:37:38

Anyone else feeling AWFUL today. Haven't stopped crying since I got up. Even cried on the train to work. I'm just exhausted hmm

beaver33 Wed 09-Jan-13 10:39:52

Oh rachy, bless you. I totally understand - have been feeling much the same way myself of late. Slammed phone down on DH the other day after I forgot to do something blush, sobbed all the way through The Impossible and have been close to tears at work for the last few days and feeling really under pressure.

I think there's something about reaching this stage, having a scan and it all feeling so real. Some of it is just feeling overwhelmed by it all; also I think we're genuinely just very hormonal and delicate souls. The exhaustion is fairly constant, I agree.

Is it work that's getting to you? Can you pinpoint a reason? Or is it just a general feeling of upset? You're not alone, anyway, and it's okay to cry. In fact, it's probably good for you.

Take good care, remember to breathe, and go for a lunchtime stroll even if it is miserable and cold out xxx

SeaSalt1 Wed 09-Jan-13 11:49:00

Rachy, have a hug, I know what you mean about the crying, I made the mistake of watching 'Up' the other day and bawled my eyes out. I have been so much more tired than usual too, which I'm sure doesn't help. Anyway, just wanted to let you know you aren't alone.

Beaver Ahh thinking of you.Like others have said not your fault at all.Im sure you will get your money back.Let us know what happens.

Rachy Hugs to you.I am feeling emotional.Im not in work this week due to bring ill.I slept downstairs last night as cant stop coughing.Well I tried to sleep had about 2 hours.So now I'm ill,tired and my already bad back is worse.I answered the door to the Asda delivery man earlier and he was like ooh love are you alright.I went to look in the mirror afterwards and cried hmm

I'm going to have a look at these swaddle blankets that keep getting a mention as I swaddled both of mine to get them to sleep


Rhienne Wed 09-Jan-13 13:09:45

On phone- sorry if typing dreadful.

We have a tripp trapp for DS. Very happy with it now, but I bought an Ikea antilop during weaning because it has a tray and is so much easier to clean. Now just use the antilop chair when cutting his hair wink. He loves his Tripp trapp and was very put out when we tried to take off the cushion to give him more room this week.

Don't know about a movement monitor, sorry. Didn't use one so don't know how big they are.

We put the cot bumper across the cot to divide it in half. So the bumper was tied to the bottom of the cot. Up half one side, across the middle, and down the other half side. Very loath to recommend it because cot bumpers aren't recommended at all. If the baby rolls into it they can suffocate. (Never did personally understand why bumpers=bad but solid sided moses basket =ok). So that's what we did, but USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Rhienne Wed 09-Jan-13 13:12:33

Can add that I'm back at work after almost 3 weeks xmas break and still exhausted. Got to work this morning, went straight to the restroom and slept for another hour before making it to my desk! sad

MaybeAMayBaby Wed 09-Jan-13 17:04:18

Gosh. We are all a sorry lot! Definitely agree about exhaustion. I've also had a headache for 3 days. It's really getting to me. Dr didn't seem too bothered yesterday though.

Rhienne I think the bumper thing is more that in theory they can get trapped underneath too. A newborn in a Moses basket won't be able to roll. An older baby in a cot could roll up against sides. I had our bumpers on for a bit but kept taking them off. Problem was, she kept head butting th sides and getting her legs and hands stuck through the bars.
I think they sell a cot divider? I'm sure I've seen one.

beaver I also agree that you're likely get your money back. Each ATM has a camera on it to film how takes the money. Did the guy punch in and take the money while you were there? Or was it some technical scam? I'd be tempted to cry down the phone to the bank and say you had the money put aside for a pushchair for new baby. Get the sympathy vote.

Baby girl news has sunk in a bit more now. Having to tell people to say helped. No negative comments so far. Tbh, our DD1 is such a good baby/kid that if we have another the same we'll be laughing.

Anyone had a breakdown of their maternity pay. Like a forcast? I did last time. Just wondering, does SMP kick in after your employer pay stops? I read SMP is 39 weeks but I get 12 weeks pay from work (6 full, 6 half). So, is the 39 weeks after the 12, or along side? I'm hoping the former. I want a year off!

scooby26 Wed 09-Jan-13 17:14:07

Maybe- smp runs alongside so sadly not a year..

MaybeAMayBaby Wed 09-Jan-13 18:06:13

Oh no scooby! So three months to live off nothing then.

What are everyone else's maternity pay packages like? And how much is SMP now? I vaguely remember it going up since last time.

So 6 weeks half pay, will actually be more like 3/4 pay then. Plus I expect you don't get tax on it? Do I remember a tax rebate at some point that year off too? I did some KIT days last time to earn a bit more.

I'm self employed so I get maternity allowance not sure how much ill get.I pay my national insurance contributions and apparently that helps but it's all a bit confusing.

roastpotatoes Wed 09-Jan-13 19:02:05

maybe I get 6 months full pay and then can take up to another 6 months without pay. I was told by work that I would get SMP at the end of the paid 6 months so that might be the same for you? They also said that if I take keeping it touch days (KIT) during the paid 6 months, you don't get additional pay on top. However, if I take them after that time they are paid, so would effectively be another 2 wks pay (I know I will have to do some work anyway, so might as well be paid for it!)

Ellypoo Wed 09-Jan-13 19:05:56

I just get statutory maybe - 6 weeks at 90% then up to 36 weeks at SMP (which is currently about £135.48/week). Am envy at people who get enhanced pay, but have started saving already. Am taking about 7 months off, going back in November, which fits in really well with my busy time at work.

Max MA is same as SMP beaut, at £138.48ish, but is not subject to Tax & NIC unlike SMP. Think there may be a calculation on the gov.uk website.

I get 15 weeks maternity leave. The first 30 days are paid at 82% of my salary; the remainder is paid at 75%. I'm planning to finish work one week before my EDD. Most of my leave will be in the school holidays - grrr.

It's a bit of a dilemma really. I'm only on a year's contract so I don't actually have to go back (indeed they may not want me back). There aren't very many employment opportunities for me over here as my French isn't great. It's taken ages to get this job so I feel that if I don't go back in September there's a good chance I won't be able to find another job. This is making me think that I have to go back if given the opportunity. On the other hand I know I'm really going to regret leaving my 15 week old baby in creche while I go out to work. On the plus side, my job is very part-time, I'd probably have a maximum of 10 hours a week. The downside is that those 10 hours could be split over five days with one lesson at 8.30am and the other finishing at 4.15pm. DS's creche is a bugger to get to too...

I really don't know what to do sad

Ellypoo Wed 09-Jan-13 19:40:01

Hmm, that's difficult mamma. When is the 1 year contract up?

School finishes in July, I think I'm contracted until the end of August.

ArtigeneAuberchoke Wed 09-Jan-13 20:15:52

I'm so lucky with my maternity deal: 6 months full pay then 3 further months of SMP. I will finish at the end of April and return in January. I would have liked to have returned part-time but work said no, I will return full-time but compressed into four days which I'd what I do now. It's not too bad really as I get a three day weekend with the kids and I enjoy my work. Being a stay at home mum for 8 months is actually a rather scary prospect!

Ellypoo Wed 09-Jan-13 20:21:15

So after the 15 weeks would you need to find another job anyway mamma, unless they want you back? If your hours are set, would it be easier to find a childminder to cover the lessons, rather than sending your 15 weeks baby to nursery?

Wow arti, that's fantastic!!!

Thanks for answering Elly. If the school didn't need me in September I'd go back to being a SAHM again (and be very happy doing it). I'm incredibly lucky to be able to do that I know.

Childminders don't really exist over here. The creche that DS goes to is excellent and DD would go there. It's quite normal for a teeny one to start creche and then spend the next six months off creche because they're ill all the time

beaver33 Wed 09-Jan-13 20:40:40

6 months full pay, Artegene and roast?? Lucky ladies, am very envy.

Mine is 6 weeks full pay (the only enhanced bit), then the standard - 6 weeks 90 per cent and then SMP.

I want to take a year off so preparing in theory for 3 months unpaid at the end - although you do get paid for annual leave accrued, which for me amounts to a good seven weeks. That'll def help.

You feeling any better tonight rachy? Hope so.

Thanks for cash support, all - am def planning on milking the sympathy/baby card. And have reported to police who are going to check CCTV at the station. Still seeing red, though...

beaver33 Wed 09-Jan-13 20:42:08

Ooh, and my mortgage application was approved today!! Getting closer to the new home...


Ellypoo Wed 09-Jan-13 20:54:07

Yay beaver!!

I have decided to spread my accrued leave out when I go back, so I won't actually be doing a full week until next Feb, which I think will be better for me than taking it in a block at the end, but we'll see!!

PandaOnAPushBike Wed 09-Jan-13 21:02:30

I'm in Sweden so in maternity pay heaven. We get 480 days of parental leave to split between us as we see fit and can be taken any time until baby is 8 years old. Any days my husband takes will be at full pay (80% from the state + 20% from his employer). Days I take will be at £18 per day (from the state) as I don't normally work, I study with the OU.

We're planning on taking 6 weeks together when baby arrives then husband will take 2 days a week so I can continue with my studies and I'll take 3 days a week.

Rhienne Wed 09-Jan-13 21:02:32

<quietly sits in the corner blush about maternity leave. Whispers "i'm in one of those countries that actually supports parents. We get 480 days paid by the government for me and DH to share. Most of it at 80-90% normal salary, capped, some days on less. There's rules about each parent having to take so many days. It's wonderful".>

Rhienne Wed 09-Jan-13 21:02:55

Jinx Panda grin

PandaOnAPushBike Wed 09-Jan-13 21:04:25


SevenReasonsToSmile Wed 09-Jan-13 21:37:36

Congrats on the girl maybe.

beaver that's great news about your mortgage application. What an awful situation about the cashpoint though, hope the police find something on the CCTV footage.

ng what's the amnio checking for if you don't mind me asking? Sorry I missed a load of the previous thread and haven't caught up yet.

Whoever asked about those still to have scans mine isn't until the 23rd but it's late, I'll be 21+5. I'm not due until 31st may so right at the back of the thread, now 19+5 so I'm guessing there can't be many others left?

I feel for all of you lot worrying about maternity leave, it feels like a lifetime ago I was having the same worries when I was pregnant with DS. I've been a SAHM since I had him in 2008. Any other SAHMs here?

MaybeAMayBaby Wed 09-Jan-13 21:52:25

OMG! Very envy.
I'm going to have to keep the last 3 months pay a secret from DH for a bit. Might have to quietly put some a way.
But I've just ordered a new kitchen blush and was planing on a few other home improvements. It's a good job my DH's business is going well.
Anyone else got a DH who is self employed? He teaches in day at school then works in evenings. I've got a feeling he won't be able to take those evenings off around patenity leave. Bit anxious already.

ng1412 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:53:50

I am a SAHM Seven. My DD is 20 months old. Feels like ages since I worked, was a lawyer before, slight career change!

I am having the amnio purely because of my age, I am 43. My nuchal measurements were all ok but that doesn't put me in the clear of course hence the test. Petrified.....

milkandribena Wed 09-Jan-13 22:11:38

wow I feel very out of the loop - Christmas, new year, family drama all got far to big and consuming. I shall go back and read up on whats been happening with you all. But hope we are okay

milkandribena Wed 09-Jan-13 22:48:21

congrats on all of you who know what you're having. We are firmly in the surprise category. BF (for that is what he is now eeek) made us not find out (and he's just about managed to convince me of it)

So odd to be buying stuff now and do we need to buy 2 of most things and things like that? a mindfield

One of my brothers is moving in this weekend. Not sure how long for sort of worried that it'll be indefinite and he'll be here when baby and me and BF are finding our feet. but he's my brother and that is what you do, He needs me so I'll be there for as long as, however inconvenient the timing is.

maybe oh I do love a bit of home improvement especially kitchens and bathrooms. I have a thing for DIY though i've had a number of mishaps

Ellypoo Wed 09-Jan-13 22:52:15

My DH is self employed Maybe - he won't get any paternity leave/pay or anything, but I think what he'll try to do is plan several days or half days off over the first few wks or months and spread it out a bit, because my DMum and DSis will also be around to help.

Hi Milk, hope all is well with you, bump & half man!!

cuppateaandagingersnap Wed 09-Jan-13 23:28:32

Hi milk so happy things working out for you and your BF, I think it's a really nice thing to take your brother in in his hour of need, hope he gets himself sorted and out from under your feet before LO arrives but if not I guess you'll have an extra pair of hands to help out with housework and shopping etc - I'm sure he's not at all like what my bro was like before he settled down and had a kid himself - his idea of housework was to sit down and tidy up a whole box of coco pops and every drop of milk in the house grin changed days now that he's got a LO of his own smile

scooby26 Wed 09-Jan-13 23:29:43


Beaver... Yay for mortgage! Sorry to hear the crap about money. Don't believe the hype re CCTV at cash points though- sadly they are not present at every one ( lots in fact ) so please don't blame the police if there isn't any- the cheapskate bank may have wanted to save dosh ;-)

Depending on the circs the bank may still be obliged to refund you- if they claim not you should run the exact circs past the financial ombudsman who are very helpful and it's just a phone call and they will tell you the obligations. Don't bea ourself up too much- these gangs are professionals.

My allowance is 18 weeks full pay then smp for the rest of the 39- I had hoped for a year off but won't be able to afford quite that so likely be off from late April as. Have to take m 2013 leave beforehand so actual maternity will kick in 19 may til hopefully feb 2014. Ten months off in total. In my defence I work work full time shifts so wall difficult to go back with weeny ones.

berri Thu 10-Jan-13 02:28:22

milk nice to see you, have been wondering how you & man are!

Seven I'm a sahm - same as you have been since DS arrived in 2008 - they must be around the same age?

It's totally different being pregnant while not at work - although it definitely went more quickly last time, I was just knackered all the time so I really feel for those doing long hours & crazy shifts. I remember fainting on the tube once, no chance of that this time seeing as I'm pretty much glued to the sofa grin


SevenReasonsToSmile Thu 10-Jan-13 07:43:56

berri DS was 4 in June, I also have a crazy non-stop 13mo DD so I'm still exhausted though! How is your tear now btw?

milk good to see you and hear that non-man is now BF.

maybe when is your kitchen arriving? We're getting our garage converted into a bigger kitchen this year, so we have choosing a new kitchen to look forward to. Unfortunately our budget doesn't stretch as far as getting it fitted so DH will be doing it himself.

Off to take DD to a new playgroup this morning, have a good day everyone!

GeordieCherry Thu 10-Jan-13 08:58:55

I'm taking 12 months ML. 9 months paid at SMP, apart from first 6 weeks at 90% salary
It's a bit rubbish but we are mortgage free so manageable

Emotional? Ohhhhh hell yes. Caught sight of our scan pic on the bookshelf last night & welled up! And I'm very very grouchy hmm

I'm thinking of working til the early May bank hol...but I've got an hour commute... Argh! There's a project I want to get finished which ends then. Still undecided but need to tell work soon!
I might use my holidays & do part time for the last bit

Saw my friend yesterday who was the same pg as me but had a MC at about 9 weeks. Feel very very lucky all's ok with us & they're going to try again next month. Keeping everything crossed for her

Have a good day everyone x

10storeylovesong Thu 10-Jan-13 10:06:57

beaver just to echo what Scooby said really, these gangs are so quick at what they do. It's hard but please don't beat yourself up about it as you're not the first and it certainly doesn't make you daft.

milk how exciting about half man becoming bf - sounds like you're both handling the situation so well and hopefully it's the start of something beautiful.

My mat leave is the same as scooby's - I've put in my request to finish on 19th April which is 37 weeks but the way I'm feeling at the minute I may have to add some leave to the beginning of that as I'm knackered all the time and struggling with the commute.

I'm still bleeding constantly but it's small quantity and brown and the hospital have said to ring if it becomes bright red, increases in quantity or there's pain - so at the moment we're still in limbo waiting for scan.

And yes to feeling emotional. I've bought the Maggie Howells hypnobirthing set to try and help me relax and part of it tells you to put hand on stomach to connect with baby and tell him your hopes and dreams for the future - all I could think of was that I hope he arrives safely and dh went mad when caught me with tears rolling down my cheek.


jojo020780 Thu 10-Jan-13 11:11:43

Hi ladies can I join May club too please- I'm due end of April/beg of May. New to mumsnet so not sure how this works and where to find everyone xx

Picklep Thu 10-Jan-13 12:34:27

oh help; got myself in a bit of a pickle (by name and nature!)...

Have been feeling the baby most days particularly at night, however, in the last couple of days the movements have slowed right down but also changed i think! I don't really know what I am feeling anymore. It feel like large bubbles popping and I am feeling occasional pressure down below, but I couldn't say that it felt like kicks, so I am worried if these are just body sensations and not baby. I have been in tears for most of the morning, mostly because I feel so confused and a bit bloody useless that I can not tell the difference between my baby and just bodily feelings. I called the mw and she just panicked me more and has booked me in for a scan this lunchtime, she kept saying , 'if your not feeling baby move and haven't for a couple of days it's best we check them' But I was trying to explain that I don't know what I am feeling, there are feelings, but very different and not as often.

I definitely do not feel the butterfly feelings I was feeling before. Has anyone noticed a change in movements? is that normal? I am too scared to google.

Pickle It will be good for you to get reassurance from the scan as words won't help.However, I don't believe you will have anything to worry about.

I felt baby move loads over Christmas wouldn't say kicking as such probably is kicking but he is to small for me to get that yet is more swishing feelings in tummy. Since Ive been ill Ive hardly felt a thing but I didn't last time I was ill.I presume it's due to all the coughing as I should be quite in tune with it being my 3rd.

They move position a lot.I mean at 17 weeks my placenta was low and I was feeling movement high,by 20 weeks placenta high up and I felt lots of movement low down.Now I just have bump ache from coughing.

lollypopsicle Thu 10-Jan-13 12:47:49

Don't panic pickle you have fine the right thing by ringing midwife and very soon you will have your scan.
I would say movements do change over time from that 'flutter' to more 'squirming' and obvious kicking. Big hug, good luck for the scan x

10storeylovesong Thu 10-Jan-13 13:05:28

pickle you've done the right thing to call your me for reassurance. My kicks feel like large bubbles popping so it sounds like you'll be ok - but no point sitting worrying if you can get help to mind your mind at ease earlier. When's your scan?

FrustratedSycamoreIsNesting Thu 10-Jan-13 13:41:44

Hello ladies. Add another boy to the may list. grin

Wirrawoo Thu 10-Jan-13 13:44:58

Try not to worry pickle I think the bubs shift position a lot at this stage so some days feel weaker than others. Good on you for having a scan, much better to be reassured.

So tempted to move to a more parent-friendly country after reading some of your posts smile my hubby-to-be (don't know the MN abbrev for that!) and I are both self-employed classical musicians so it's attempts to save and measly SMP for me (and no paternity leave for him). SMP barely covers my half of the rent let alone anything else so I will have to start working again from 6-8 weeks after the birth sad gutted, I really don't want to, would like 3 full months off at least. A plus for us is that we can choose our hours so I can take on more teaching and do from home (saving on childcare), and both of us can hopefully wangle the work we do to be as part-time or full-time as we can handle. My mum is also around to come with me and look after bubs so I can keep breast feeding in the breaks. Eek! A lot of my colleagues do this though and there is a lot of comraderie surrounding it, people will be understanding. Am trying to organise higher paid chunks of work so I can earn more in less hours. Fingers crossed! Was livid at recent news about cuts to maternity pay. I still can't believe there is no state paternity leave. Poor dads.
Anyway, essentially I will be part time for a year probably by virtue of taking on less work so times will be tight. Not so many lattes in my future!

SevenReasonsToSmile Thu 10-Jan-13 15:16:49

Congrats on your boy frustrated.

Hi jojo, there's a May stats thread in ante-natal if you want to add yourself onto the list smile

pickle hope the scan went ok. I'm on DC3 and its only the last couple of days I've felt proper kicks, I'd been worried a couple of weeks ago as I was hardly feeling anything. Chances are baby has just moved position, though it sounds to me that it is still the baby you're feeling.

SevenReasonsToSmile Thu 10-Jan-13 15:18:49

wirra I'm in awe at you both being classical musicians, I'm the least musical person ever, what do you play? Are you hoping LO will grow up to be musical?

AuntyDiluvian Thu 10-Jan-13 15:59:35

Hi everyone - I was on this thread way back in August/Sept and then drifted off Mumsnet for a while so am just marking my place and re-introducing myself! Everything's been going well and I have a boy on board, though haven't told people in real life that yet. Will now get on with catching up with some of the posts on the new thread...

Boodstress Thu 10-Jan-13 16:17:51

Hi joJo and Aunty. I follow most days but don't post so much. I'm listening though as I know it sometimes feels like your talking to yourself .. Which I have been known to do as well grin
pickle hope the scan helps you feel reassured. I haven't felt much movement last few days and I could see the movement from the outside before. I fell over the bins putting them out the other night (another chore I can now get out of) and bruised my breastbone so gave me a fright. I have had movement,since but less. I know the baby is in a new position though as the movement is very low and far in if you know what I mean. Im sure all is fine.
I'm suddenly feeling v pregnant and very hormonal - is that the end of the nice but? 23+6 today confused

Boodstress Thu 10-Jan-13 16:18:59


shelly81 Thu 10-Jan-13 17:51:16

pickle I've not felt a lot this last few days and am hoping she has just moved place a little :-) keep positive xx

Rhienne Thu 10-Jan-13 18:42:14

Pickle, my "movements" feel different all the time. i think it depends on how the baby is sitting/lying.

Really hope all went well withh the scan...

aberjen Thu 10-Jan-13 18:43:15

Hello jojo and aunty and any other new people I've missed

Hurrah for scan news and BFs! smile

pickle hope all went well this afternoon?

V pleased to arrive home and find maternity dress from jojo maman bebe sale had arrived. They also sent a voucher for £40 off wine - surely that's just cruel?!

Picklep Thu 10-Jan-13 19:23:56

Thank you lovely ladies a lot, you really calmed me down before my appointment, I'd really got myself in a bit of panic. Didn't have a scan, but mw checked in with a doppler and she said that he was being a pickle (which I had a giggle about!) and making it difficult to find a heartbeat, but we did and she said that he has wedged himself in a little cosy corner deep within and that he sounded perfect, with lots of movements and great heartbeat. He's just deep within so I can't feel the kicks, but we heard them on the doppler.

So you were all right, and I was pleased to have made the appointment otherwise I'd still be sat here in a mess, which is no good at all.

To reassure others (particularly first-timers like me), mw said it is SO common especially at this stage of pregnancy for them to 'be little pickles' and movements will change and have quiet days - but your maternity ward will always be happy to check over - you won't be considered a fuss-maker, like I thought I was! The lady I saw was SOOOO lovely and put me at total ease.

Beaver just wanted to send you a hug after your ordeal, what a vile person, he'll get his! But you should not beat yourself up, these people are professionals.

Now, to properly catch up with you all, I see Milk has some news to update us...YAY!

shelly81 Thu 10-Jan-13 19:33:30

Awww yey glad all is ok pickle & you have now had ya mind put at rest xxxx

berri Thu 10-Jan-13 19:42:43

That's great to hear pickle, glad you can relax now.

Another blue one for the list frustrated! Congrats!

Hi jojo & welcome back aunty

Hope everyone is having a good day - only 1.40pm over here but I guess I should say evening for everyone else!

SevenReasonsToSmile Thu 10-Jan-13 20:10:00

Hi aunty.

pickle really pleased everything was ok for you and your little pickle! I was looking back at the old threads btw and noticed you mentioned you have chickens too, how many do you have? We have five Sussex hybrids.

Wirrawoo Thu 10-Jan-13 22:20:29

seven I am in awe of your chickens! we dream of having chickens and a veggie garden one day smile I am a violinist and my partner is a Brass player (also singer/songwriter and pretty fab guitarist). Weirdly we are both 3rd generation musicians but seriously I don't mind in the slightest what our little fraggle ends up doing, just hope it's something that he loves, that makes him happy and fulfilled. That's the only inspiration from our work I hope to definitely pass on (and hopefully a good sense of rhythm!).

pickle so glad everything is ok. Sounds like she was the perfect person to see you for that checkup.

Welcome new people! smile

HenD19 Thu 10-Jan-13 22:20:35

Hi all. My DCno3 is due 9th May. Already have daughter 5 and son 2. Scared about how I'm going to cope once the baby is here, especially with getting up and out on the school run. Excited too though. Looking forward to sharing our stories

Picklep Thu 10-Jan-13 23:04:55

Thanks all, so pleased. wirra you're so right, she was very Chummyesque.

seven yay, another chook owner! i have 4 Rhode Island hybrids. I love them, they keep me very entertained. We're off on holiday soon and we are having to take them to a local chicken hotel, already I'm dreading it, they've been anywhere else before, DH tries very hard to make me understand they are just livestock and simply provide us with eggs! But I've named them, they have different personalities, and I'm also a little emotional at this time. The 'hotel' has come recommended by other chicken owners so I'm sure they'll be fine (pleeeeeease). Are yours laying still? Mine have been great, but a lot our friends hens hsve stopped with the colder/wetter weather. I've been treating ours with warm leftover porridge - wow they love it!

Picklep Thu 10-Jan-13 23:06:38

*they've NEVER been anywhere else .

scooby26 Thu 10-Jan-13 23:07:18


Pickle- really pleased all well.

Please can i Rant- not about babies- houses!,

So having been dancing a merry tune to our buyers who only offered on our house mid November ( and then their sols closed for Xmas) we should have been due to exchange tomorrow or Monday which is fairly swift. We dared to suggest that we hold off on final completion for two weeks to save us moving twice and n with parents as our new build isn't ready til mid February...

Their response- we n longer wish to proceed and here's the contract back?!!,


We have very calmly approached their solicitors to see what the problem is ( have had concerns re the response speed of my sols to them but obligated by builder to use them ). Only to then get a letter emailed that they will reconsider and exchange if we give them 3.5 k cash up front next week compensation for stress....

Hmmm a very nasty game........ ,( must remember to breathe... )

We have politely declined .... If I had Which i dont, i wouldn't give it.... It's sheer bribery. They have quoted a number of issues such as slowness ( its only been 7/8 weeks inc xmas! ). being called stupid by our estate agent ( and that's my fault?!) and feel compensation is required...

So looks like all off- we have lost £000's pounds with sols fees, searches , mortgage fees (as we had to take fitted wardrobes etc from builder as no one else could do after as specific t build ) so as we'll as house ill have to cut short maternity leave as we had to use savings on Moving bills that would have been replaced out of equity that's now gone. We can't move again as mortgage offer lasts til June and then we can't get new one as n maternity which abbey won't allow ( tied to them ). So extremely unlikely to get new buyer and out by then


cuppateaandagingersnap Fri 11-Jan-13 00:18:58

scooby that sounds unbelievably shit, tbh sounds like they are unpleasant people mucking you about but also I think your solicitor might be rubbish..... Crap that you're tied to them.
Love and hugs, moving stressful enough at the best of times and you don't need this now especially. Things will work out though, try to stay positive, x

SeaSalt1 Fri 11-Jan-13 01:13:07

Hi Jojo and Hen and welcome back Aunty!

Scooby - so sorry to hear about your house, that's terrible behaviour from your buyers. I'm no expert but 7-8 weeks with Christmas in the middle doesn't sound slow to me at all, and cash up front sounds like they are holding you to ransom. Grrrr. I hope they come round and change their minds once they realise you are prepared to say no to their (very unreasonable) demand.

Pickle - so pleased everything is ok!

Got to dash now but didn't want to read and run, Scooby - keep us posted as to how it is going...

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 11-Jan-13 05:04:18

scooby what a nightmare! They are massively taking the piss, bastards! If they do end up backing down console yourself with evil,thoughts about leaving prawns under the floorboards to stink them out when they move in! In the meantime, take deep breaths.

I am struggling to keep up, so apologies if I've missed any important news, but I'll say

Ng hope amino goes well

Very jealous about the chicken owners, stuck in London flat, no chance of that here

Hi to jojo and hen and welcome back to aunty

Very impressed to whoever saw the impossible, I can't watch the trailer without feeling overwhelmed!

Also very jealous of some people's mat leave, I get 8wks full pay, 16 wks half pay and then 3 mths SMP. Have been saving.

Frustrated congrats on the boy! Another one for the list

And hi to milk and your half man! Long time no see!

I really should go back to bed, woke up with pelvic girdle pain, can't get back to sleep. Anyone else with PGP?

CheerfulYank Fri 11-Jan-13 05:17:24

I was away but am back...still due May 23rd. smile

<settles back to read the thread>

ng1412 Fri 11-Jan-13 08:24:10

scooby we had similar when I was pregnant with our first DD. the buyer pulled out a week before exchange after we had spent thousands and committed to renting a property for 12 months.

It was really tough, in the end we moved out anyway and rented our house out before selling after 12 months to a lovely young couple.

Not the best timing for you, hope it all sorts itself out...leaves a nasty taste in the mouth as well.

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 11-Jan-13 09:35:00

scooby ((hugs)) we had a huge amount of stress to do with selling a property last year so I can sort of sympathise, though ours was just due to the incredible slowness of the solicitors our buyer was tied to. Getting it complete in 6 weeks is about the quickest I've realistically heard of tbh, so with Christmas in the middle that isn't too slow at all. Hope they realise how ridiculous their behaviour is and change their minds.

wirra we also have a veggie garden, not that we ever get much time to grow anything with 2 under 5 and a house that needs lots of work!

pickle we got ours as chicks this year, one came into lay in September (the same week I found out I was pregnant, no runny poached eggs for me, boo!), then another 3 in November. We still have one that hasn't started laying yet. They've slowed down during this current cold spell but we're still averaging a couple of eggs per day.

Hi hen. I'm also on DC3, do you know what you're having this time? Feel free to pop yourself on the stats thread, it's in the ante-natal groups category.

I'm exhausted today, DS had me up on and off until 4:15 little buggar

ArtigeneAuberchoke Fri 11-Jan-13 10:12:45

Scooby - Could you write the buyers a friendly note to try and appeal to their humane side? They may not be thinking of you as individuals and it sounds like they are focusing on the agents and solicitors and blurring you altogether. Our estate agent (who we have bought our last two houses through) has the unorthodox approach of encouraging a personal connection between buyer and seller and IME it really helps. I would write that I was really sorry they want to pull out, that I agree the agent could have been more polite and you certainly won't use them again, that I have tried to be as quick as possible and if the two week delay is a huge problem I would be happy to reconsider and finally that I just did not have the resources to reduce the price and would hope they understood. You might not feel any of these things but sometimes being overly nice and stroking peoples' egos really pays!

It is lovely to see some of the older posters returning to the thread. Welcome back all! How is your sickness CheerfulYank? Better I hope.

Pickle - I too freaked out yesterday morning as the baby did not move at all and his movement have been strong for over a month. He is usually active in the mornings and we can see the kicks from outside. Luckily he started moving just as I considered leaving work and going to the hospital. I am glad your MW was so lovely and supportive. Lets hope you get to see that one lots and lots!

Milk - I am so excited to hear that non-man who became half-man is now a full-man. Congratulations! Are you planning on moving in together before the baby comes? I am suspecting not as you mentioned needing two of everything. Do you plan on the baby staying away from you from birth? I just wonder as you may find that really hard once the baby arrives, I know I found the desire to be near my babies was so much stronger than I could have imagined. Anyway, it is great that you are a couple and I hope things continue to go from strength to strength.

Wirra - how lovely that you and your DH are both classical musicians. Will you be able to juggle your hours when the baby is hear so that usually one of you can be at home while the other is at work? On my last antenatal thread there was a lovely opera singer who travelled the world lots and had to go back to work 6 weeks after birth. She was lucky that her husband gave up work and travelled with her caring for the baby and it sounds like your family might be able to give you that support which is great.

Who mentioned pelvic girdle pain? I never had it with my last pregnancies but I do have a sore coccyx this time and sometimes I am getting pain down my leg too. Its a horrid feeling. I wonder if I should get physio but I have no MW appointment until 28 weeks so nobody to refer me. Oh and this is way too much TMI but my pelvic floor aint coping well with this third pregnancy so ladies I cannot emphasise enough the importance of lots and lots of pelvic floor exercises. Not just a few a day like I used to do but diligent work. I wonder whether I need physio for that too. Groan.

Picklep Fri 11-Jan-13 10:15:02

scooby am so sorry you're going through such stress!! They are complete bastards for putting you through this. Fingers crossed they see reason! Big hug to you.

sevenreasons so lovely when they first start laying, I was so excited. At first I wasn't eating my girls eggs. But now I'm averaging one a day and soft-boiled. All british poultry should be innoculated against salmonella and I double checked with our breeder, ours have. I also found out that if a chicken has salmonella then it has salmonella and so will its eggs. We've had no problems with our eggs since having them. The baby has been craving them, so i've been devoiring them, made the mistake of doing it in front of MIL!!! She nearly got them in her face with her 'do you think that's wise?' and 'I think you should be a bit more careful!' Ggggrrr

Picklep Fri 11-Jan-13 10:20:42

artigene you have a little pickle too! They are already testing us. Glad you got some more movements and could relax. After all the panic and worry, my little pickle has been doing acrobats ever since.

scooby26 Fri 11-Jan-13 10:49:06

Morning all...

Thanks all soo much for your words- confirmed I'm not going mad in thinking the request is unreasonable.

Antigene--- we took. Exactly your approach at 4.45 pm yesterday and wrote a personal letter to the buyers explaining our perspective on the same issues and explaining we went on hol etc for two weeks which was long booked ( estate agent well aware but maybe hadn't said) and offerring them a playhouse ( husband not looking not forward to taking down) and a sofa ( that we don't want ;-) )

At 0902 hrs we received a reply saying they now do intend to proceed and will take the sofa but not playhouse.... Unable to exchange by Wednesday we said suggested as they aren't ready yet ( hmmmmm)

So will see what happens now... Back on for completion 25 jan but vv nervous....

beaver33 Fri 11-Jan-13 13:49:45

scooby that sounds like my worst nightmare. Poor you, that's hideous. As others have said, they're obviously just taking a punt and hoping you'll bend to their demands. I'd have also recommended writing to them directly and appealing to their better natures, so I'm glad to hear it's worked.

It's fraught with problems, this house-buying nonsense, isn't it??

Pickle what a horrible panic you must have had. I think all of us are so tuned in to what is/isn't/should be happening we're hyper alert to any changes. That's good, though, and probably nature's way of helping us pick up problems. Glad it's all well though. Take good care!

Wirra what a lovely job. I used to play cello in orchestras etc but haven't picked it up properly for years. I still dream about it - it was something I genuinely loved and now just don't have time for. Then my fingers softened up and I came out in blisters every time I tried to play properly. Hoping my little girl will be musical, but DH is absolutely not (although he is an artist, and really creative generally). Am playing her lots of classical stuff in the hope she'll catch on....


tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 11-Jan-13 14:08:42

Hi scooby great to hear things are moving, maybe you won't need the prawns!

Artigene, it was me with PGP, I referred myself for physio, I think it's worth catching things early.

HenD19 Fri 11-Jan-13 15:26:20

Hi sevenreasons. I don't know what we're having-do you? How do you feel about having 3? I'm quite worried as life is hard and busy enough already. Getting more excited as the weeks go on though, especially now I'm feeling lots of little kicks and wriggles (from baby bump not 2yr old though he has his moments!). Hope you get a full night's sleep tonight. I'm still shattered and mine both slept thru!

GeordieCherry Fri 11-Jan-13 16:58:42

Went to an ante-natal 'fitness' class this morning. We did posture & pelvic floor& that was it!! Needn't have worn my joggers..!

Still, got some proper idea of how to do PF exercises. Must keep that up

Went for another bra fitting today. Up another cup size. Only bought one as I'll be back again in 6 weeks & will need a different size at this rate. Thank goodness for the quick wash cycle on the machine wink

Glad to hear the buyers have seen sense & it's all now back on Scooby

Hope everyone's niggles are settling down & here's to a relaxing weekend

Boodstress Fri 11-Jan-13 17:06:03

Hi Artigene - I have mentioned my PSD - pelvic girdle pain - several times as I have it with my last two pregnancies and already started hobbling with this one. I also got the coccyx issue after the birth of my dS2 and that has kicked back in now. The belts have been uncomfortable and pretty useless but I am not wearing a type of stocking bandage that holds everything in which is helping plus I have the coccyx cushion for under me when sitting which has a hole cut out around the coccyx to take the pressure off. tBH there is no substitute for the physio exercises they give you ( Pilates style to improve strength of core) boringly enough !

Boodstress Fri 11-Jan-13 17:07:06

now wearing

Ellypoo Fri 11-Jan-13 17:11:20

Hi - was a case of 3rd time lucky for us with the scan today, although I did have to lie on my side!!

Next growth scan in 2 weeks, then GTT & another growth scan 3 weeks after that. Anyone else having GTT?

I also have PGP - I had it last time, but not until after 30 weeks. It started at about 18 wks this time, but it's getting worse. I also have a sore coccyx, especially at work.

scooby, what an absolute nightmare - can't believe the cheek of your buyers, but well done for managing to sort it out.

We sold our house in the summer - was 5 weeks from accepting their offer to moving out, I think that's some sort of record nowadays!! We weren't in a chain though, and first time buyers were buying their house so that really helped. Also, we built up a relationship with our buyers too, and let them use one of our rooms for storage before completion to make it easier for them - it really helped things move smoothly I think. Very lucky, and not expecting to ever move that quickly again!!

23 + 3

MaybeAMayBaby Fri 11-Jan-13 17:12:46

scooby glad it seems to be back in track. I hate house buying/selling. We had similar problems 6-7 years ago. I just don't get people backing out so late. After all, they too must have spent a fortune.

pickle glad you're reassured. I was forever at the day assessment unit with DD! But they never seemed to be annoyed and said I was right to come in etc.

Chicken keepers! Love the idea. My PIL want to, but worried about when they went away. They have 2 dogs and we have 2 enormous stupid mutts too. Think they didn't want us to feel obliged. I never knew about chicken hotels though!

Can't remember who asked. Our kitchen is hopefully going to be done over feb. But found out yesterday that the 'friend of a friend' who had done the quote hadn't included VAT. So not such a great deal sad. Still £1500 cheaper though. But having to find all that cash up front is scary. Especially when I feel like I should be saving. I'm getting a bit anxious about finances. We are so much more better off than last time, so I know I should relax. I get so panicky. My DH doesn't organise any money related thing at all and has no idea so he thinks I'm just finding stuff to moan/nag about.
On a positive-just had first nursery bill since getting 15 hours free (after 3) and its saved £200 a month! That should help. Also wondering if I should take her out of nursery bar the free hours as soon as I go on ML. But worried I'll regret that. Anyone having same dilemma? What have you decided? In theory, the money saved with soon so, and the free hours could be enough to see us trough those last three months unpaid...

Lastly, wanted to say 'Hi' to the newbies. I've found this thread moves really quick, so you'll have a job to keep up if you don't read up daily!

MaybeAMayBaby Fri 11-Jan-13 17:14:35

Yay for finally getting the checks done for scan, elly!

Gosh. 21+4!

Ellypoo Fri 11-Jan-13 17:59:49

maybe, are you paying for your kitchen in advance? I would really recommend that you withold some to pay on successful completion - we have renovated 3 houses now, and have various 'issues' with tradespeople, and even the really good ones who we have recommended to others, we have never paid in full upfront. It gives you a bit of bargaining power if they need to come back to finish anything, and with our new kitchen in this house, which was a bespoke, handmade one, we had to get them back to touch up the paintwork slightly and sort some other bits out. Sure you will already be aware, but that's just my experience and advice. So exciting getting a new kitchen though - I love love love mine!!!

MooLL Fri 11-Jan-13 19:51:08

Maybe I was in the same position re nursery school and spent some time debating what to do. DD was doing 3 mornings a week before Jan. The 15 free hours has just kicked in, however we have done the opposite. Although I will be on mat leave for a yaer (with no intention of ever going back), we have increased her to 5 mornings a week therefore effectively keeping the amount we pay the same (as nursery 51 weeks a year whereas gov funding is only term time funding). My thinking was it would give her some space and time on her own with her friends without having to always take on the 'big sister' role. She has also flourished since starting nursery and with all the activities (swimming, dance, french etc) onto of maths/phonics etc I think it will provide her the stimulation that perhaps I would not in the first year of having another around. On top of that we are also keeping our 3 days a week nanny until the summer as after a c section I will need the help and my DH works very long hours and no family are near.

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 11-Jan-13 19:53:34

elly I'm having the GTT along with a growth scan at 28 weeks, then another growth scan at 34 weeks due to my previous premature labours.

hen my scan isn't until the 23rd but we'll hopefully be finding out. I'm really looking forward to DC3 but wondering how I'll have the energy, especially as DD is only 13 months! We wanted them close though, my brother and sister are 6 and 8 years older, I'm convinced its the reason I'm not close to either of them. I figure if they have a close bond by being close in age it'll be worth a year of so of being exhausted for.

We've given the builders the go ahead for the garage conversion, they can start as soon as its empty so DH will be clearing out the junk on his days off next week. Then we have 2 months of building work to look forward to.

Last night is catching up with me, plus DD has been up with teething at 3am or earlier every night for the past week so I'm feeling pretty exhausted. Off to bed with my new green parent magazine which arrived today and my knitting, night all!

jojo020780 Fri 11-Jan-13 20:37:23

Hi ladies and thank you! I'm just popping on quicky before I burn my dinner and realsie that I need a loooong time to get to grips with every thing on here! Look forwards to joing you proper;y v soon xxxxxxxxxxxxx

shelly81 Sat 12-Jan-13 09:26:25

Off to football with my ds this morn so glad its not raining :-) love being a touchline mum & all you ladies that are having boys get your thermals at the ready haha xxx have a lovely saturday ladies xxx

SevenReasonsToSmile Sat 12-Jan-13 09:38:08

DD slept until 6.30, I actually feel normal this morning!

ng1412 Sat 12-Jan-13 10:30:36

We had a bad evening, DD teething severely with her molars, woke up at half 10 and would not let us near her to give her any calpol, was hysterical for two hours until we thought maybe take her downstairs and watch some Abney and Teal (God bless Sky+ and CBeebies!) and she calmed down enough for me to give her some.

Oh and our electricity shorted whilst upstairs soothing her, due to the crap French electrical system we have in our house. So I was sitting with her screaming in the dark while DH tried to negotiate the dark cellar staircase without breaking his neck.

She woke up fine this morning but I am dreading another night of it. Knackered!!

CluelessNewbie1 Sat 12-Jan-13 13:28:03

Hi everyone, just to let you know we went for a scan this morning and we are having a girl! So exciting. x

Wirrawoo Sat 12-Jan-13 13:58:47

Yay congrats clueless (not so clueless any more!) smile
Sorry to hear about those teething pains, I guess we have all that to look forward to!
Also sorry to hear about those house selling stresses. It seems like such a short exchange time I'm amazed that those buyers could be so bolshy about it. Sounds like you have it worked out now so fingers crossed it all goes well for you.
Yes to whoever it was who asked (sorry, can't scroll back), we are lucky in that with our odd muso working hours we should be able to share and juggle childcare for the most part (and my mum will help too). He will come along to my rehearsals etc when he can and both of us have agreed that there may be a few sacrifices of tours etc along the way, but we will make it work as best we can. My mum and dad managed it with me so I have good inspiration to work with smile we will go to Australia (my old home) for a few months over next Christmas for combination of work and holiday so being surrounded by family support there and nice accomodation provided by work should also provide some nice relaxed time in the first year. Fingers crossed!!

PandaOnAPushBike Sat 12-Jan-13 14:48:12

I'm having a bad time the last couple of days. Last night the discomfort was so bad I started to worry it was premature labour (I don't think it is at all but pain can make ones brain go cuckoo). It feels like period pain, except I'm feeling it in my lower back too, and it's a constant throbbing ache. Kept me up all last night.

Until now baby has been lying on his back so kicks and movement was all felt across the top of my bump. Movement is constant, throughout the day. I don't think he ever sleeps. Coinciding with the ache, baby seems to have flipped over. I think this because now all the kicks are down below and aimed inwards. I suspect his current favoured position is somehow behind the problem. sad

rachywhite83 Sat 12-Jan-13 15:20:27

Panda I'm not feeling great either.

Had a fainting episode in a shop today and have been in bed since. Not sure if there is a problem with my blood pressure. Having headaches and seeing stars when I bend over. Going to get DH to check when he comes in from work. He's a paramedic so has got the stuff to check my blood pressure. Really not feeling right at all but can't put my finger on what is wrong. Baby is moving round and kicking well. Mummy's the one with the problem sad

jojo020780 Sat 12-Jan-13 19:06:59

shelly oh no, I've decided this boy won't be doing football lol. ng1412 Blimey, you have my total sympathy- hope things are better for you today? clueless wooo congratulations, how exciting! Are you going through names as we speak?! panda omg (I haven't read through all of the posts yet) do you know what's up hun? rachy I get this a lot an they found my iron levels are low- have you checked this out?

well I've just become another victim of the dreaded heartburn. gahh- thought I'd been too lucky! I found the best thing last time was thick custard but I'm stranded at home without transport so fingers crossed it passes tonight xxxxxx

GeordieCherry Sat 12-Jan-13 19:32:25

Heartburn a-go-go here too hmm

Chocolate milk, especially soya, does the trick. And thankfully more portable than custard. I now want some custard mind!

SevenReasonsToSmile Sat 12-Jan-13 20:26:38

rachy let us know how your blood pressure is.

panda hope it improves soon, and the same to everyone suffering with heartburn.

clueless congrats on your girl!

Has anyone decided on any names yet? We have Beatrice for a girl, a boy would probably be James but not certain yet.

Wirrawoo Sat 12-Jan-13 20:32:23

panda and rachy you poor things, and weirdly... Me too. Think it's low iron or low blood sugar or something, have been massively dizzy and weak all day and pains have been going inwards and low down to the left the last few days. I feel worse when I lie on my back. The baby turned inwards theory makes a lot of sense 'cos he's still kicking away. DP is prescribing steak, tea and rest but please let us know if you find out what it is.
Hey jojo I find milk works really well. Apple too. Odd but works!

FrustratedSycamoreIsNesting Sat 12-Jan-13 22:34:30

panda I'm getting lower backache at the moment too. How are you sleeping? (what position?) does that make any difference?

PandaOnAPushBike Sat 12-Jan-13 23:26:45

I'm not sleeping very well at the moment at all. I just can't get comfortable. Baby is still happily kicking away all flippin day so I'm not overly worried, just in a lot of discomfort, although it has eased off a bit over the last few hours. I have an appointment booked with my MW on Monday so I'll talk to her then.


MaybeAMayBaby Sat 12-Jan-13 23:47:53

Sorry everyone's having a hard time today. panda I've had similar pains on and off too. But I did last time and everything was fine. Hopefully it'll be better tomorrow.
clueless congrats!

Off to bed x

Hi to all the newbies.
Hen I am another one having their third.We are expecting ds3.By the time baby arrives my two will be 7 and 8.

Seven We have got our short list of names down to Tate,Felix,Finley and Jude.

Sorry to everyone feeling faint and ill at the moment.I fainted just before Christmas.Midwife said was more than likely a dip in blood pressure.I haven't slept in a week due to cough but back to work on Tuesday so hoping it clears.

FrustratedSycamoreIsNesting Sun 13-Jan-13 09:54:06

panda do you sleep with extra pillows? I've got made a pregnancy pillow, with a couple of pillows cases stitched together so I have one under my bump and between legs, and one behind my back to stop me rolling onto my back, as I seem to ache more when I've been sleeping on my back.

seven we may have settled on a name. I've totally gone off the boys names we had as options with dds. But fx we have decided and won't change our minds.

FrustratedSycamoreIsNesting Sun 13-Jan-13 09:58:24

beaut, hen and seven I'm on dc3 too.

Frustrated am I right in thinking you have two dds and will be having a ds this time?Congratulations.

We went shopping yesterday for a friend who's just had a girl to get her an outfit.DP got all excited around the boys outfits and couldn't resist buying a few bits it was lovely to see he was buzzing all day grin

Boodstress Sun 13-Jan-13 10:14:23

I'm on DC3 hen and mildly panicked about 3 5 and under but excited too. I'm one of nine so no sympathy from from mother who already thinks I over egg the whole parenting business.
Re the sleep pillows I have slept with a cushion between my knees since 12 weeks and a pillow that has a flat bit in the middle so every time you turn you're bump is supported - it's really great, makes a huge difference. Will progress to full body pillow in a month or so although it tends to feel like another body in the bed so DH not entirely keen wink

I really didn't realise so many were on dc3 on here.Do any of you keep getting asked when you'll have another shockIm not sure if its just a question people with same sex children get or everyone.I got asked a lot with ds1 never got asked with ds2 so finding it odd people are asking with my third.

This will definitely be our last as we just couldn't afford anymore.

Bunnychan Sun 13-Jan-13 10:26:47

I think it's a question everyone gets. I've been asked it already and I'm only on dc1 (21+3). So far my response has been "let me get through this one first!" Lol x

FrustratedSycamoreIsNesting Sun 13-Jan-13 10:43:16

Yep, that's right beaut
The questions we get are more of the "will you be stopping now?" Which is always followed by me telling them we always planned 3. Pure fluke this one is a boy. Again we didnt get any questions with dd2.
Although I did get a "if you didnt have enough on your plate already" which I actually appreciated as I'm sure most people we know are thinking it anyway, and the honestly is quite refreshing.

What are the ages of yours Frustrated I hope all of mine bond due to age gap.Ds2 has already expresses his concern at no longer being the baby smile

Boodstress Sun 13-Jan-13 11:01:00

Most people are obsessed with what sex this one will be - I have 2 DSs. I have to repeat the same thing to them all ; another boy would fit in very easily - a girl would be a whole new ball game but lovely. I get the feeling no one will be that interested in another boy. They also demand to know when I will change my car and how I will ever go away on holidays EVER again. Oh and the house is too small apparently. As one of nine I know anything is solvable but do wish people would stop.

FrustratedSycamoreIsNesting Sun 13-Jan-13 11:13:29

They'll be 7 and 5 beaut, the youngest is very much the baby has SN so more like 3 this little one will make the world of difference in her development, as at the moment our life does revolve around her, she is babied alot, and it will help us and her so much to break that cycle and for her to see that the world doesn't revolve around her.

Ahh I have itchy flaky nipples. I thought I'd got away with it what would I have in my house that will help?

shelly81 Sun 13-Jan-13 11:20:24

Is anybody on DC3 gettins a lot of “oh you must be mad” I get it all the time and its starting to piss me off a little lol xx

FrustratedSycamoreIsNesting Sun 13-Jan-13 11:21:06

I changed my car bood but more to do with doing the school run and taking a friends dc
I'm at a loss with a boy rather than a girl. It will be so strange.

Also had the no holidays comment. Which I find a bit hmm since we haven't been on holiday since dd2 was 1.

Right, I have virasoothe, e45, arnica, and sudacrem, - which is going to stop me wanting to scratch my nipple off?

ArtigeneAuberchoke Sun 13-Jan-13 11:35:59

Beaut, Hen, Seven, Frustrated and Bood - I'm on number three too so there are a whole gang of us. Isn't Shelley also in the same boat. I too am having a boy after 2 girls. My girls will be 6 years 9 months and 4 years 5 months if this one arrives on time. I am glad it's a different gender purely as I worried about DD2, who is v sensitive, getting a bit of "middle child syndrome" and I think that might be lessened by still being the youngest girl. I've yet to be asked if I'll have even more but maybe that's because people see the fear in my eyes when I announce number 3! Actually I do find it strange how many people think it's ok to react to our news with comments like "are you crazy?" or "you are brave". Quite different reactions to those I got with DCs 1 and 2.

ArtigeneAuberchoke Sun 13-Jan-13 11:38:37

Sorry Shelley we crossposted there as I took ages to type. I see you are indeed on no. 3 and I'm not alone in suffering the "are you crazy" comments.

MaybeAMayBaby Sun 13-Jan-13 11:48:45

Ha, frustrated, I think most of those would work. Try them one at a time?

I'm on DC2 and I already have at the back of my mind the thought of another! My DH would go mad. It took a lot of persuasion for this one. But, because so far my body has coped (complications last time by now) I keep thinking -'if I get through this unscathed, I can do it again!'. I'm one of three girls so I like the idea of 3. But DH is one of 2, and he and his sister don't talk. So, I think I'm going to have to accept that 2 is it dreams of announcing no 3 to a mortified DH.

Just realised that potentially I have 10 work weeks left!

PandaOnAPushBike Sun 13-Jan-13 12:07:08

Frustrated I have a maternity pillow which helps a bit. I have problems sleeping at the best of times though, tied in with being autistic. My occupational therapist ordered me a weighted blanket to help with this but that was before I fell pregnant. She has it at the hospital now but won't let me use it until she finds out for certain that it's ok for pregnant ladies to use (which I doubt as it's about 2 stone of extra weight).

Beautician I had lots of people asking me if I was mad and why on earth I would want to have a baby now. This is because he is my second but my first is now 19 and has just left home. IE why go back into the lion's den when you've just escaped. It makes me sad and I wish people could just be happy for us.

FrustratedSycamoreIsNesting Sun 13-Jan-13 12:19:01

Haha maybe virasoothe has worked for now. Must invest in nipple cream. 10 weeks sounds nice, I have 16 working weeks. depending on when I decide to work until

Boodstress Sun 13-Jan-13 12:25:56

Shelly mostly people think I'm mad having 3. I think it's cause they are so young but it's not like its that shocking. I would like to upgrade car etc but it won't happen straight away. For those having their first boy after girls ; boys are fantastic and they idolise their mums (for now) My almost 5 YO said yesterday he wished he had asked me to marry him before Daddy - I didn't go into how that would not really have worked grin

scooby26 Sun 13-Jan-13 12:46:13

Hi all

Hope you're having a relaxing weekend.

I've got 14 weeks til I start my leave then maternity. Off for a week low as I've taken my nights off as leave and I have a week booked in feb if/when we move ( hmmm )

This is our DC2- there will be no more! Im not 'brave' ;-) enough for 3. I'm one of 3 myself but I don't see how I'd cope with any more than 2! One hand for each! But seriously - I kinda get the car/hols things- its much more difficult with a 5 person family logistically:financially than 4 so we will be stopping here- I don't mean to offend- I just know my own limitations/capabilities! My dad is one of 9- god knows how anyone copes with that many!

SevenReasonsToSmile Sun 13-Jan-13 13:09:24

shelly yes I'm getting a lot of I think you're mad comments. I reply with yes we are a bit mad, it soon shuts them up. DS will be 4.10 and DD will be 17 months. DH is keen for another but I'm happy with 3, especially as straight after DD I said I didn't want anymore. Plus we have 4 bedrooms so they will have one each, and we already have a grand scenic anyway.

My MIL was one of 13, now that I think is mad!

beaut I love the name Jude, but DH said no meanie

Boodstress Sun 13-Jan-13 13:11:13

We coped scooby with 9 - in fact it was a pretty amazing childhood. I guess we are programmed to think we must have more stuff than we need but also its down to choice of course. We never planned 3 DC but I've got three seat belts in the back of my car and I'll work everything else out grin I am done now though - that's it.

I haven't really had you are mad comments.Just 'you'll have your hands full.Boys are so much harder than girls'.I don't see why everyone thinks ill have my hands full as older two ds's will be at school most of the week.In that respect the age gap works well.

We have a Scenic and just about fit the third car seat along the back but the older two have loads of leg room so won't be changing the car for now.I just need to learn to drive it grin

We were going to try and manage in this house for a little longer.Its a 3 bed and we have put the ds's in together but their room is so cramped.Plus I've doubts we will fit all the furniture in the nursery.

I'm excited to be counting down my maternity leave also.I was thinking of taking it from 23rd April.3 weeks before my due date as then my pay covers me until after Christmas.However,I'm now thinking about giving up on 8th April so Ive got 5 weeks to get organised.Ill probably still get maternity pay to kick in from 23rd though.Does anyone else think its going scarily quick now

Bood My 6 year old was rather put out that I will be marrying DP and not him.He still doesn't quite understand why that isn't possible.

Boodstress Sun 13-Jan-13 14:12:50

Haha! Beaut my DP wouldn't have a look in if we we were marrying now. We did when my eldest was 6 months old luckily grin

milkandribena Sun 13-Jan-13 14:18:16

artigene there has been slight talk of moving in - slight. maybe just when baby is small and BF has his paternity leave? he also mentioned the two of us moving in to his flat while I'm on mat leave and he's at work. or he moves in with me but that means and hour+ commute each day and if I'm not working that doesn't seem fair. So I think double things some days not to jinx it but others.... But after he goes back to work he'll want baby overnight and things and I'm not going to deny him that or that he would just see him on weekends. Starting to see why people get together first then have the kid wink

cup I hope he gets himself together before baby comes. poor kid. thankfully we're a big family so he has lots of experience 'helping' and I'm letting him stay as long as he does housework. I know what he wants to do he knows what he wants to do but can't get his arse into gear. I may just buy him the plane ticket to germany and tell him to go. But for the meantime he may have a job down here which will be good for him.

scooby bood i'm one of 8. BF is one of 12. It was great and wonderful but no way on earth would I do it.

congrats if you have found out what you having - I just can't keep up

seven don't get me started on names - we can't even decided on the surname we're not going anywhere near first names. We might just do Maria or Paul - it's catholic enough and works very well in both ireland and germany and england. Except everyone is called it !! beaut I like Jude would seem odd in germany though

hope we are all having a wonderful weekend, without snow. I'm meant to get some but it isn't appearing as of yet.

HenD19 Sun 13-Jan-13 15:47:50

I too am sick of 'are you mad?' And even 'was it an accident?' comments. People can be so rude! Must admit though I am feeling as though I must be a bit mad as life is already mad with my 2 DC but obviously not telling aforementioned rude people that!

We are converting our loft into an extra bedroom but were planning on doing that before I got pregnant (not by mistake coincidentally) and we're looking into getting a new car but again were planning that before the pregnancy.

At least we can swop tips for coping with 2DC.

HenD19 Sun 13-Jan-13 15:50:54

I mean 3DC!! And Boodstress maybe your DH can relive a fantasy re the pillow being like an extra person!

milkandribena Sun 13-Jan-13 16:11:44

the worse hen is when you get asked 'was it an accident?' and it was but you have to make sure you don't pause long before saying 'of course not' otherwise the nosey buggers know you're lying. question closely followed by 'when is the wedding?'

Boodstress Sun 13-Jan-13 16:35:05

Ha Hen we call the pillow Camilla AKA the other person in our relationship! It's crazy already with 2 LOs i know but they don't stay little forever :-( and I always felt like someone was missing at the table. Even just been pregnant with no 3 feels like we are complete now.

aberjen Sun 13-Jan-13 17:09:27

DP and I have been together 8 years and expecting dc1. My mother still asked 'was it planned' closely followed by 'so are you going to get married'. Harrumph!

shelly81 Sun 13-Jan-13 18:09:51

I think most people are shocked because our boys are going to be 13 & 11 wen this little lady arrives so it is like starting again a suppose. DS2 referred to her as “our baby” today for the first time I nearly cried as upto now she has been mums baby :-)) happy mummy here xxXx

Wirrawoo Sun 13-Jan-13 18:19:12

boodstress camilla hahaha!!! grin those massive preggie pillows do seem quite an addition to the sleeping arrangements. Spent a long time in mothercare trying to work out which one to get and ended up not getting any 'cos I couldn't decide!

DP and I have been together 4 years, this baby is very much planned, everyone predicted we would get hitched frm the moment we got together and the response from everyone has been universally overjoyed and brilliant except future MIL and SIL sad his mum in her current state can't handle that he might be marrying for love and has converted the concept in her mind to it being just a legal convenience for kids (despite knowing that he has wanted to marry me for ages and was only putting it off in the hope of her attitude towards us improving). Her congratulations to me was just,"well done. Well that's sorted then." The baby response was more just passive aggressive veiled hints that it was all me and I've now trapped him into a life she thinks he's too young for (he's 30). Must channel Zen like compassionate vibes and just ignore it from now on. Her loss, I'm quite a nice DIL to have really wink.

Boodstress Sun 13-Jan-13 19:05:53

Poor you wirra - I hope I never become that sort of MIL to future daughter in Law material. We used to get a lot of stick for doing things 'backwards' but these days they have a whole new set of gripes grin

aberjen Sun 13-Jan-13 20:07:59

Awwww wirra sad Very in awe that you remain so gracious

SevenReasonsToSmile Sun 13-Jan-13 22:09:52

Sympathies about your MIL wirra, definitely her loss. I'm quite lucky with my MIL, though I'm not convinced my parents like DH that much. I have already sworn that when my DCs have grown up and have partners as long as they're happy then I will be happy for them, as parents isn't that all we want for our DCs to be happy?

shelly that's very cute of your DS. Mine is much younger but was insisting he didnt want us to have another baby, I'd been starting to get worried tbh that he was feeling pushed out. Anyway the last few days he's started putting his hand on my belly when I say the baby's moving and singing to my bump, so very happy mummy here too smile

DH and I have been together for 9 years, and married for 6 years in March.

shelly81 Mon 14-Jan-13 16:34:17

DP & I have been together for 17 years this year childhood sweethearts haha xx

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 14-Jan-13 16:35:31

Did I kill the thread? Hope everyone is having a good day wherever you all are smile.

I've finally started feeling proper kicks the last couple of days after 8 weeks of tiny flutters, DH felt it for the first time too last night.

How much weight has everyone put on so far? I've still only put on half a pound, though I'm large enough already that it doesn't really matter I guess. It's not intentional, I'm just not craving the junk I did in my previous pregnancies and for some (I assume psychological?!) reason I'm rarely finishing my main meal, even though I'm not necessarily full once I've eaten just over half of it I just don't want any more.

Ellypoo Mon 14-Jan-13 16:41:16

I think I've put on about a stone so far, but I'm not really weighing or worried about it. I put on loads last time, and was still 3 stone heavier when I fell pg this time to last time, but I'm not eating as much rubbish as i did last time - I used it as a total excuse, having been on weightwatchers for what seemed like years!!!

Yay to proper kicks seven - it's just the best feeling, isn't it! Lovely that your DH can feel them too!!

Have started to make a list for hospital bag today (have the day off from work which is good because we have some snow here and it's very slippy out, although I'm sure the main roads are clear) - reach the 24 week milestone tomorrow, so will be on countdown!! Next milestone is 28 weeks.

I hope everyone is keeping safe and warm - it's been so mild so far this January, it seems weird that it's so cold now!!!


SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 14-Jan-13 16:47:51

Wow to being 24 weeks elly. I'm right at the back of the thread, only 20+3. I was pleased to reach 20 weeks though.

Wirra Sorry that you have a mean MIL.Im quite lucky I usually get on quite well with MIL which is nice as I'm not close to my own mum at all.However,I wasn't impressed by her reaction to her first grandson hmm

I have put on a stone so far.I was hoping to only put on a stone the entire pregnancy.Im 11 stone now and only 5'2 blush

Oops should read stone and half was 9st 5 to start

I'm 22 +4

ng1412 Mon 14-Jan-13 17:15:15

I have put on about ten pounds and I weigh about the same as I did when pregnant with DD although I must say I do feel a lot bigger. I am also getting heartburn and back pain a lot earlier then I did with DD, plus pain in my sternum which is very annoying.

I am falling apart! DH just ignores me now when I start moaning. He went through it all when I was pregnant with DD and now he has to go through it all again...poor thing!


GeordieCherry Mon 14-Jan-13 17:30:26

I'm thinking of getting one of those V shaped pillows for sleeping a little bit upright. The heartburn is soooooo uncomfortable confused

Think we've decided on a Graco Evo pushchair. Thoughts anyone? It has good reviews...

Re: the MIL, my own Mum said "are you getting married?" as the first thing she said. Yet to say congrats actually! She has got over herself though & I didn't get upset. Thank you Al-Anon wink

Weight-wise I have no idea, I don't weigh myself as it's not good for me. Maybe a stone..? Doing some exercise most days & not denying myself anything I want to eat except pate, rare steak, nice blue cheese, red wine, raw sushi...etc..!

Did a risk assessment today & I'm not allowed to work with one of my groups any more due to risk of violence or bodily fluids. It's never happened in 6 years but hey ho. Very disappointing sad

22+2 with a little wriggler envy

Boodstress Mon 14-Jan-13 17:30:46

I've put on a stone and heard you put on 1-2 pounds a week from now! Ill put on about 2 and a half last two times. I am smaller than I was before at this point I think (not weight wise) but I'm sure ill get my comedy bump again, which is all in front like a man in a cannon ball is waiting to shoot out.


ng1412 Mon 14-Jan-13 17:35:29

Geordie I have a V shaped pillow but I just don't get on with it, it made my hips ache when I slept with it between my legs. Maybe I should try it as a pillow although it seems a bit too big for that. it is a monster! Gutted as I really can't get comfortable in bed.

Have you got some gaviscon? It comes with me everywhere, I couldn't do without it.

I second the gaviscon Geordie I can't stand the peppermint but the aniseed one is ok.I leave a bottle by my bed and carry one around with me as well.Im afraid I just swig from the bottle blush

GeordieCherry Mon 14-Jan-13 17:40:09

Wirra: don't have too much tea as it can deplete the iron. Hurray for steak though! Oh, & it might be because you're lying on your back you get dizzy. There's some vein there that gets squashed by the baby after 16 weeks. Hope it improves for ya smile

GeordieCherry Mon 14-Jan-13 17:57:18

Got Rennie Extra in my handbag, some Tesco own brand in the car & Gaviscon tablets by the bed
Chamomile tea is helping too
If it gets much worse I'll go to the Dr, want to get some benefit from the free prescription!

I was thinking the Camilla-pillow would double for feeding too..?

ng1412 Mon 14-Jan-13 18:04:56

Geordie you are well stocked up then!

I only bought the pillow for this pregnancy so no idea about feeding but I think friends said they are good. I just stuck a normal pillow under DD when I was feeding.

GeordieCherry Mon 14-Jan-13 18:08:04

Hahaha NG! It's cos I kept forgetting to take stuff with me & feeling like I was going to do a dragon-y puke

We have such a weeny house that it would be best for pillows (& everything!) to be double use e.g. cot top changing table smile

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 14-Jan-13 18:14:35

geordie what job do you do?

I've never got on with extra pillows in pregnancy, at least I'm knackered after chasing DD around all day grin

scooby26 Mon 14-Jan-13 18:28:45

Hi all-

Still stressing/waiting over house complications...argh.

But I did get a lovely fit note today from my lovely gp that I don't have to work after 11pm or before 8am ;-)

Sure work will be please that when m back at the weekend !

GeordieCherry Mon 14-Jan-13 18:58:49

It's one of my prison projects Seven

I'm an arts worker & I work with lots of different 'marginalised' groups

The prisons are one of my faves though smile

Wirrawoo Mon 14-Jan-13 19:24:53

Cheers for the tea tip geordie, didn't know that about tea and iron! Am drinking decaf tea by the gallon so this may be an excuse to switch to hot chocolate grin. Lying on the back does seem to do bad things to my head and heartbeat now so not doing that any more for the next few months. Btw what you do as an arts worker sounds really interesting!

V shaped pillow for sitting up in bed sounds like a good idea. Being propped up a bit definitely helps with the whole heartburn/indigestion thing. Anyone have any good suggestions for preggie pillows that double up as feeding pillows or are they not really necessary? A friend had a sort of semi circle pillow that she swore by and looked really comfortable for BF. so many choices!

Re: weight, lost some in 1st trimester, put on 4 kilos last time I looked but the bump has grown considerably since then! Not weighing myself at the mo but just being sensible with food etc. Don't want to weigh in that often or get too worried about it as long as I'm not going too nuts with meals.

berri Mon 14-Jan-13 20:29:52

Hi everyone smile

Uneventful weekend! Eating far too much chocolate at the moment, I totally can't get enough! I might end up regretting it if I start piling the weight on!

At the moment I've put on 9lbs. Can't remember where I was this time with DS, but in total I think I put on 2st? But he was born early so I would have gone up more if I'd gone full term. This amount of chocolate will definitely not be helping but it's like a bloody addiction grin. I have a big bowl of celery soup in the fridge but for some reason it's just not drawing me in in the same way!!

It's so funny you guys who are going from DC2 to DC3 - all everyone used to talk to me about was when we were going to have DC2....I suppose we've had a big ish age gap seeing as he'll be 4yr 5mo when this little girl arrives, and I've had nothing for the past 4 years apart from questions about when we were planning number 2! Bog off it's none of your business!!!!!!
Constantly - a lot from total strangers such as people in the supermarket queue and waitresses! Everyone saying how awful it is to have just one child! I used to get so angry! And it seems the same thing when you go from 2 to 3 - why on earth is it only 'normal' to have 2 children???? Not 1, or 3 - just 2!! This world is so strange sometimes.

anyway back to my creme egg

HenD19 Mon 14-Jan-13 21:11:19

Not surprised you brought up weight gain sevenreasons! How have you managed to put so little weight on? I suppose if you've been really sick that would make sense. I sickeningly (ha) got down to my Weight Watchers target weight during the first trimester when feeling sick but now I've put it all back on and a couple of pounds too. It's not fair! I suppose I have been making up for not drinking much alcohol by eating loads, especially over Christmas.

Can't believe that everyone is getting such bad indigestion already. And getting so uncomfortable in bed. Dreading those stages happening to me. Mainly loving being pregnant but very tired and not much get up and go which is driving me mad. I'm normally like this at this time of year though.

aberjen Mon 14-Jan-13 21:37:22

wirra I think I read that it's the caffeine in tea/coffee that inhibits iron absorption so would guess decaf okay? Not certain though.

scooby Great news! No idea how you've been doing night shifts. I'm finding the usual 9 to 5 bad enough.

Think I've put on about a stone so far blush Was lucky in first trimester as not much nausea but spent a good few weeks ravenous - would get up at 3 am for a bowl of cereal and be starving again by 7ish

Changing the subject completely, have just made myself cry with laughter over absolutely nothing. The more DP looked at me like I was crazy the more I laughed. Decided to blame it on hormones - need to get mileage out of it while I can grin

aberjen Mon 14-Jan-13 21:51:17

Dammit, research then post - looks like caffeine isn't the culprit so decaf wouldn't make a difference blush

Sparklyboots Mon 14-Jan-13 22:03:01

Ha, I am too old for anyone to ask if pg was an accident - also on number 2 so it was more or less fully expected by everyone else. My dad did go white and say he thought me and DP were going to announce engagement rather than impregnation with DC1, though. But everyone was v. happy etc. so naturally I expected a hero's welcome on announcing number 2 - not so! I can't remember the last time anyone in my/ DP's family have asked about the pg and I was more or less hassled everyday for progress with first pg....

Not sure how much weight I've gained on account of being untrustworthy round food etc. I am still running most days but for pitiable amounts of time (like, 20 minutes max) so I'm not sure it counts. Starting to get odd looks as the bump reveals itself and I don't just look like I'm trying to get rid of a wobbly belly. I'm also less pissed off when someone smugly runs past me, but only marginally.

Re iron absorption - it's tannin that is the problem which unfortunately renders hot chocolate, decaff, red grape juice, blackcurrant and chocolate off limits if you think that is your problem - basically anything v dark. The good news is that vit C aids iron absorption so deck a high dose vit C (or even 2) with your iron tablet/ drink orange juice while eating your greens/ have a vit C before tackling your steak or whatevs and you should upgrade your intake. Vit C is not toxic and you will excrete any excess, a massive dose (like 5 grams/ 5 high dose tabs) with a drink of water will have a laxative effect which I only mention as I think most of us currently have a vested interest in such things. And you can still have tannin rich drinks or food, just try to keep them well away from when you have your iron/vit c combo. As a veggie/ sometimes vegan who runs (footstrike equals red blood cell damage equals higher iron needs) I've not had iron probs this pg or last. And I've drank tea and hot chocolate throughout...

ArtigeneAuberchoke Mon 14-Jan-13 22:07:02

Gosh I've put on more weight than anyone: 20lbs. I'm quite depressed about it. It happened in my last two pregnancies too, my body's reaction to conception appears to be to panic and stockpile fat reserves. I'd lost some weight before I got pregnant and was a size 8 and feeling fab about it, that seems a long time ago. Oddly my bump is tiny, I'm much smaller than at this stage with DCs 1&2.

Geordie, your work sounds fascinating. What kind of projects do you do with the prisoners?

SevenReasonsToSmile Mon 14-Jan-13 22:52:47

hen not much sickness, I just can't finish my meals, makes no sense to me. My BMI is 34 though so I have enough not to worry. I'm not obsessing over weight, just weighed myself the other day out of curiosity.

sparkly if it makes you feel better I doubt I can run for 2 minutes let alone 20! DH is a runner, he's in training for this years london marathon.

berri you're right about numbers of children, and why do people insist in giving their opinions? Me, DH and my two best friends are all from three-child families, it seems like a perfectly reasonable amount to me!

SeaSalt1 Tue 15-Jan-13 00:59:29

Hmm... this weight gain thing is very interesting to me. I am 21 weeks now, so am due at the end of the month (EDD 28th May) but after an incredibly rough first trimester I'm still about half a stone down on where I started, despite having started to put a bit back on over the last few weeks (please don't hate me, though I think you're more likely to be concerned as I know you're a lovely lot). My BMI is healthy so that's good.

I would put the weight loss down to the extreme nausea I had up to week 16/17 or so, my total aversion (which continues) to strong smells (which there are tonnes of in Singapore), the heat and humidity (very extreme), my development of a craving for fruit (I can't eat enough apples and grapes), no alcohol, lack of access to my usual 'treats', and more exercise (I'm swimming three times a week and am doing yoga classes). Doctor seems unconcerned and baby is huge so he's growing well.

I'm definitely putting weight on now and am expecting to be back at my starting weight by the time I leave Singapore at about 28 and a bit weeks. I don't think it's a conventional weight pattern for a pregnant lady but I'm not overly concerned...

Is anyone else's weight lower than when they started?

FrustratedSycamoreIsNesting Tue 15-Jan-13 07:50:18

Um, weight gain? I have no idea, I don't even look when the midwife does it.

I used to have a problem with food before pg with dc1, it wasnt a good place to be mentally. the issues will always be there, but are easier to manage during pregnancy, the pregnancys override them as it were. so I always put on weight when pg as its the only time I eat healthily and regularly

rachywhite83 Tue 15-Jan-13 08:52:51

I'm off to the Midwife today. Had enough of feeling rubbish. DH checked blood pressure and that was all fine. Really hoping she can help me today.

I'm constantly crying too. Poor DH having to cope with a moaning hormonal woman like me all the time sad

10storeylovesong Tue 15-Jan-13 09:12:57

Just been catching up with a couple of days worth of thread!

scooby so glad you've got your note. It's about time - hopefully you'll feel the difference.

rachy good luck at midwife today. Fingers crossed you feel better soon.

I'm very jealous of those with little weight gain! I lost 9lbs in first tri but sm sure I've put that on and plenty more since. My scales have broke and I'm not buying new ones until afterwards, but all my clothes feel tighter and my bump is now massive. I'm hoping its a good sign that baby's growing but we'll find out at the consultant this afternoon - I'm so scared but need to know what's happening for my sanity.

Boodstress Tue 15-Jan-13 11:25:14

All the variance in weight gain proves there is no norm so I am going to relax, I don't look like I've put on loads and the baby is on the smaller side so far, I just must have the weightyist placenta going.

I have a condition where I have too much Iron in my blood so my specialist is thrilled when I am pregnant as I don't require any treatment grin good luck for scans & consultant appointments..I just had to cancel a 24 week til 28 when I realised that was just for first time Mums...pity I was so looking forward to hearing the little heart beat.

beaver33 Tue 15-Jan-13 12:01:42

morning all, just checking in.

scooby that's great news about the fit note. Well done. Hopefully with that done, and - fingers crossed - your house woes sorting themselves out soon, you can start to feel a bit less stressed! Def thinking of you. Our house purchase is so far going ok but am braced for disaster....

not sure how much weight I've gained - I think about 4 kg. What's that? Just over half a stone? I'm quite little anyway and look pretty huge already because there's nowhere for this bumpette to go but out...!

Went to a lovely spa at the weekend and had a great pregnancy massage. Was trying to relax but the little blighter kept kicking me throughout! Made me giggle.


HenD19 Tue 15-Jan-13 13:06:54

Actually thinking about my weight gain I think I've put most on my chest-it's massive already. No wonder my babies have struggled to breast feed!

rachywhite83 Tue 15-Jan-13 13:27:10

Just come home from the midwife. She has sent my urine away because it showed signs of infection. She said that this could be the reason I am feeling so rotten. Heard babies heartbeat. Baby wasn't happy about that kicked the monitor out of the way ! She said she wasn't worried about the baby because it was moving around so much grin She is going to phone me in the next couple of days with the results.

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 15-Jan-13 15:01:08

Glad they've found the possible infection rachy, UTIs can sometimes allegedly be responsible for premature labour. It was suspected I had one when I went into early labour with DD, though come to think of it I never did her the results, my labour only lasted 3 hours!

beaver your weekend away sounds fantastic.

I've been clearing out in the office/new nursery today. Cleared the desk and loaded it up with more rubbish to go to the tip with it. Does anyone else have much sorting out to do before LO arrives?

DH is clearing the garage out tomorrow ready for the builders to get in there and start on the converting it to the new kitchen.

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 15-Jan-13 18:28:52

Yes seven I have loads to do.
New kitchen.
New boiler!
New floor (I want this but may not happen)
DD1 needs to be moves from no room into proper room which is currently my DHs 'mess' office. I can't even see carpet in there. It'll take a while.

I can't wait actually. Last time we were plastering the nursery when I was 36 weeks! I don't want that again.

I've put on roughly a stone (I think about12-13 pounds). My weight like last time has stabilised the past two months. I seem to gain most of that stone in the first trimester then stop for the second! I hate to admit that I think I'm pretty close to the weight I was when I gave birth to DD. I was on track and losing quite a bit after last time, then at 6 months post partum, my DH had a stroke. It was a pretty awful time. I had literally just gone back to work too. I never lost another pound. In fact I probably gained 10lbs back. He is ok now btw. He has some vision missing but leads a normal life!

I've forgotten everyone's news blush. Who was it with the possible UTi? It's common not to have symptoms while pregnant so sounds promising.
scooby hope your house sale goes through soon. Have you a date for exchange yet?

Ellypoo Tue 15-Jan-13 19:32:38

Woohoo reached 24 week milestone, very relieved. I have set next one for 28 weeks. Can start packing my hospital bag now.

Have been getting some sharp stabbing pains down the bottom left side of my bump, sort of near my hip sort of area. Am seeing MW thurs am so will ask then but she'll prob just say its normal.

How is everyone doing? I'm shattered and have got a really long day tomorrow, which I'm really not looking forward to.

10storeylovesong Tue 15-Jan-13 19:53:02

Urgh. What a day. Just got back from the hospital again. Unfortunately the haemorrhage has gotten bigger which is very worrying. The good news is that the baby has grown as well and is bang on his size for his dates. The consultant has put me on bed rest, signed me off work for 2 weeks and booked another scan in for 2 weeks to check on the size of the bleed / baby. They are very concerned that I will go into premature labour so I'm going back to hospital Thursday for a course of steroid injections to help baby's lungs develop just in case. It's all been a lot to take in again - I'd better start getting my hospital bag ready!

Boodstress Tue 15-Jan-13 19:55:55

Oh 10 what a lot to get your head around. Focus on the positives though, the baby is blissfully unaware doing its growing business and each day is progress. Get lots of rest!

scooby26 Tue 15-Jan-13 20:23:55

10- really sorry to hear that 10, at least you are being monitored and signed off sick. Put your feet up and try to relax( can't imagine how) the steroids are just a sensible backup and every day/ week is a good step forward.

Still struggling with house- we are ready- do are they supposedly yet apparently they want to see the house again before they exchange.... Sunday was suggested with a possible exchange of Monday and move out next Friday..... Eh no! I can't possibly pack and arrange moving in 3 days and I wont pack until we exchange as history has shown them to be a little unreliable and threatend to pull put twice in last week. I've said yes no proba move next Friday but only if we exchange by this Friday. I don't think that's unreasonable to require a week to pack ip a four bed house... See what tomorrow brings but I'm vvvv stressed!

Ellypoo Tue 15-Jan-13 20:32:17

Oh gosh, how scary 10, I hope that they are keeping a very close eye on you & baby. Great news that he is bang on size for his dates though. Can you get people to bring you plenty of books/DVDs etc to keep you entertained?

Crikey scooby they are really giving you the run around aren't they - I really hope that you get everything sorted, and exchange by Friday - it's totally fair enough!!

berri Tue 15-Jan-13 20:55:27

10 oh how worrying for you sad
I'm glad you've been signed off & can concentrate on really putting your feet up. I had the steroids with DS, they are a real godsend for prem babies so hang on in there.

Just on way out so haven't read the other recent posts, hope everyone's ok & will be back later.

SevenReasonsToSmile Tue 15-Jan-13 21:22:34

10 what a worrying time for you, but glad they're taking good care of you and have signed you off. I hope you've got plenty of magazines, box sets and chocolates to at least enjoy while you're resting. As others have said with each day and week that passes your LO will be getting stronger, how many weeks are you now?

berri how prem was your DS?

ukfirestorm Tue 15-Jan-13 21:28:34

My wife is expecting in May, dead excited, and found out its a girl, glad i found this thread.

ArtigeneAuberchoke Tue 15-Jan-13 21:32:11

Wow 10 you are really having a worrying time. How many weeks are you now? I have a friend who had her baby at 26 weeks exactly with no warning, so no steroids, and after a rough few months in ICU he defied all expectations and is now 2 with no real lasting problems. Thinking of you.

beaver33 Tue 15-Jan-13 21:44:42

Thinking of you, 10, but looks like you're in safe hands again. You must be 24 weeks now (or thereabouts) which, remember, is the point at which most premature babies survive. Obviously we all hope you don't have to think like that, but it's reassuring nonetheless and it sounds like whatever the issue with the bleed, your baby is going from strength to strength. Good for you!

Really feel for you, though. You need some good box set recommendations. Are you up on the Killing? The Bridge? Game of Thrones? Prison Break (shit but awesome)?

scooby seriously? They sound like even more of a nightmare every time you post! Everything crossed for you that it works out timing-wise for all parties...

ukfirestorm wow, welcome! I think you're our first non-pregnant male member! Delighted for your wife, ad that you're having a wee girl (must even out our numbers now, I think?).

10storeylovesong Tue 15-Jan-13 22:06:43

I'm 23+6 so they're starting the injections Thursday when I'll be 24 weeks. Just hoping he stays put for a few weeks longer yet. I think they'll just keep a closer eye on me and as long as he's growing well they'll just leave us to it. We got Downton Abbey and Homeland box sets at Xmas so they're first on the list. Dh is being fabulous and running round after me and he sorted it out with my mum that I would stop at hers when he's on nights so at least I won't be on my own. And my friends are being great as well and nipping round when I need them. There's loads of stories of baby's doing well so keeping positive - and it might even not happen yet!

scooby they sound like an absolute nightmare. Why on earth would they need to see it again at this point? Sooner it's all done with the better.

scooby26 Tue 15-Jan-13 22:41:42

10- really pleased to hear DH being fab- just what you need. Enjoy the peace and feet up!

My thoughts exactly re viewing- surely the time to view and satisfy yourself is long before you offer and allow your seller to spend lots of money on fees etc.. And they do know I'm pregnant. It just all seems rather bad manners....don't know how I'm gonna last til fri lunchtime... I've insisted on exchange by then as so much to do..or not if they pull out! Surely you either wanna buy a house or you don't?

MaybeAMayBaby Wed 16-Jan-13 07:23:09

10 I'm so sorry. I also know lots of preemies who are now toddlers or older. Last two were twins at 29 weeks (so only marginally bigger than a single at 24-25 weeks). They are nearly 3 and have been fine. Good luck and fingers crosses for the next few weeks.

scooby are they first time buyers? Even so, they are really pushing it. The awful thing is, they know that they've got you over a barrel and that you have to agree. Personally, I'd agree and say 'yes' to whenever they want to complete and then turn round (as long as you've exchanged) and say you need a few more days. In both cases that I've bought, I've exchanged and completed on the same day. It wasn't until quite recent that I realised this wasn't the norm!

Welcome fire. You might find some of our comments abit tmi. Has anyone else got incredibly sore boobs at the mo? I can feel the milk glands! Very painful last night.
And my DD is really playing up at nights. She doesn't want me at all. She has turned into a proper daddy's girl. I'm worries it's connected to the pregnancy. She won't even let me hug her some times. She wet the bed twice last night after being dry for about 14 months. It's starte already and the baby isn't even here!

ng1412 Wed 16-Jan-13 12:46:58

10 look after yourself and get lots of rest.

My DD is also upping the pace, she has had me running around after her all day, the terrible two stage appears to have come 4 months early. The amount of times I have told her to stop doing stuff today is ridiculous.

I am feeling so restless and bored. Bored of rubbish daytime tv and bored of being on my own all day. Weather doesn't help, it is about -7 and snowy outside so no way I am venturing out.

Oh to be in a warm English speaking country right now!

HenD19 Wed 16-Jan-13 14:27:32

10 glad to hear you're being positive and taking it easy.

Welcome fire! It will be funny for you to hear the other side from us all although we tend to be quite positive about our DHs!

My DH and I were chatting last night about how the new baby will impact on our other 2 dc. We think our dd aged 5 will be fine but think it will be hard on DS aged2 as he'll have to get used to mummy having a lot less time for him. I think he's my main worry but remember feeling the same over my dd when I was pregnant with DS. Things change so much for them.....

berri Wed 16-Jan-13 16:32:31

Seven my waters broke at 31 weeks and he was born 10 mins into week 32 smile

berri Wed 16-Jan-13 16:37:09

Scooby these people sound mental!! I think you're totally right to just put your foot down over your deadline, otherwise they'd just be messing you around. Terrible how these things work out through the solicitor - I'm sure if you had to have face-to-face meetings with your buyers there's no way they'd take the piss so much! When it's faceless like this people think they can get away with anything!
Fingers crossed it works itself out on Friday!

shelly81 Wed 16-Jan-13 20:30:47

Pissed off & fed up :-( sick to death of bein ill now full of a cold again only been back at work a week & half arghhhh what's happened to my bloody immune system :-( xx sorry ladies rant over now xx

Ellypoo Wed 16-Jan-13 20:52:32

Hi hope everyone is doing ok - 10, glad your DH is looking after you so well!!

Welcome fire, will be great to hear a DPs side of things!!

Well, I have spent 7.5 hrs in a car today and a couple of hours walking round a building site so I can barely walk now - expected to suffer because of the PGP, even though I wore a support belt, so think ill be working from hone tomorrow & fri to rest!! Am snuggled on sofa in front of lovely log burner now - DH has gone to a comedy night!!

24 wk MW appt tomorrow! Looking forward to hearing the HB again even though I can feel loads of movements.


Rhienne Wed 16-Jan-13 21:00:20

I feel for you Shelly. I have the lastest in my constant run of illness, a really nasty cough with fever. Blaaaahhh!!!

Went to the doctor (again - I swear this new GP thnks I go running to him at the slightest sign of a cough) and it's the usual... Virus...drink lots...rest...wait for it to go over. Sigh. Though he did say there is a tiny chance that constant sickness during pregnancy is caused by thyroid issues, so he's sent the paperwork to the lab, and when I'm up to it I can go past and have it checked. Part of me wants it to be true, as then something can be done about it! That's the samll part of me that's not just hanging out for the day when I get back some semblance of an immune system.

Does anyone have any experience of super-extra low immune system being caused by lack of particular nutrients? I take multivitamins and extra iron...

ArtigeneAuberchoke Thu 17-Jan-13 08:46:26

Sorry to hear about your constant illnesses Shelley and Rhienne. I had a terrible time after the birth of DD2, I actually started to worry something was very seriously the matter as I was ill constantly. I started a concerted effort to drink lots of water, cut out all processed foods and eat fresh, exercise every other day and go to bed early. I also too extra Vit C, Zinc and echinacea. Not sure which bit of that was the key but something worked.

Any more news on the move Scooby?

And good luck with your first steroid shot today 10.

I hope the PGP settles Elly. Have you tried pregnancy Pilates? I've heard it can work miracles.

I had my 20 week check at the GP yesterday (I'm actually 22+3 but I forgot to make the 20 week appt). Unfortunately I got a student GP who said shed never done an antenatal check and then looked utterly freaked when she realised I had a history of pre-eclampsia. She took my BP which was 116/63 at my last check and was 123/66 yesterday. Even I know that isn't a rise and just a teeny fluctuation but she insisted I go to the hosp antenatal clinic. Such a bore. They laughed out loud at her notes and sent me straight back to work.

scooby26 Thu 17-Jan-13 11:49:31


Sorry to all those poorly- hope u pick up soon.
10- hope today's steroids go ok- every day/ week makes him stronger.

Well a rather amusing turnup today re house move- some furniture arrived today! For our non buyer! :-). Let's see if he's buying after tonight's viewing- we will know one way or the other within 24 hrs.....

10storeylovesong Thu 17-Jan-13 12:14:24

Bloody hell scooby they sound crazy!! Fingers crossed it all goes ok.

Injection went fine apart from appointment being an hour late! And now my bum feels numb!

Ellypoo Thu 17-Jan-13 14:16:35

Your 'buyers' do sound very odd scooby! I hope that you get a definite answer v v soon.

10 glad the appt was ok - how many injections/sets of injections do you get? I will be having the steroid injections at 32 weeks too, so just wondered what to expect!

I have just ordered stuff for my hospital bag from boots - tiny baby nappies, cotton wool, maternity & breast pads etc. Looking forward to it arriving, then I can get my bag packed up ready!

We have really bad snow forecast here for later today/tomorrow and the weekend - does anyone else have any? I'm not planning on leaving the house unless I absolutely have to!!

SevenReasonsToSmile Thu 17-Jan-13 16:29:43

I agree your buyers do sound mad scooby. What on earth did you say to the person delivering it? Hope you manage to get the exchange tomorrow.

elly did you say before you're having an ELCS at 36 weeks? Mine were 35+5 and 35+6, 4lb 9oz and 5lb 4oz. Never bothered with tiny nappies just started on size 1.

We were going to buy DDs first shoes today, DH went to the recycling centre earlier and said roads round here are awful, the main A road near us had t even been gritted so we thought better of it. The garage is empty though, builders start at 8am grin

Ellypoo Thu 17-Jan-13 16:44:59

Hi seven, yes that's right - all being well, there is a chance that they might perform the CS earlier though if there are any problems, and DD1 was really small (4lb 15.5oz) so assumed that size 1 nappies would be too big - I have loads of the newborn/size 1 from last time, so I just ordered 2 packs of the tiny ones, just in case - they were on offer, so not too worried if they are too small - can always gift them to the neonatal unit at hospital maybe?

Can't believe they haven't gritted the main road - that just sounds crazy!!

Trying again to light the fire - couldn't manage it earlier, I'm a bit rubbish!!!

Ellypoo Thu 17-Jan-13 16:45:37

Oh, and woohoo to builders starting tomorrow - that's so exciting!! Have they given you a timescale? Hope it gets done really quickly for you!!!

beaver33 Thu 17-Jan-13 16:50:18

scooby are you serious??? I know it's actually a good sign in your case - it's all relative, after all - but I'd be FURIOUS at their damn cheek.

scooby26 Thu 17-Jan-13 17:53:36

So the house tale continues....

Buyer and family arrived and seemed reasonable plausible- sadly two mins before they arrived I had a call from my sols saying they aren't proceedable as waiting for tick in box from mortg company which may not now come til early next week- ( Apparant) natwest stowed off ??!!) their sols thinks the only solution is for us to spend more money ie book removals and plan to move fri as all will be fine.... Yeah rite!

As soon as in the door they apologised for having the 80 quid item delivered but stated it must reassure us .....hmmm believable?!! I'm still concerned come next week they will redemand money which we won't pay and all be off again as they may think we may be more over a barrel by then...

So upshot we have restated no exchange by tomorrow no move next fri... End off. I fully expect an email tomorrow saying they've pulled out!

10 Sorry to hear you haven't healed as well as hoped.Im sure that everything will work out well.Ok you may not go to term but baby has proven to be strong so I don't think you will have baby too early.You are already at a safer stage.You are being looked after I hope and I second or third the box sets and chocs grin

Scooby Goodness I really feel for you.The buyers sound utterly odd.Hope you get sorted soon.

I am getting really excited now.Its my birthday next week and we were supposed to be going out for a meal at the weekend.However, the snow has started to fall and I've a feeling we may be getting a fair bit.I don't mind staying in at the weekend I've no energy.


Ellypoo Thu 17-Jan-13 18:11:19

Oh scooby what a total nightmare - am still keeping fingers crossed that you manage to exchange tomorrow by some miracle. this is so unfair of your buyers & sols, and I would be exactly the same as you - stand your ground, and I certainly wouldn't feel safe in paying out any more money out until you had some guarantees. Your buyers are really playing some games, I really feel for you x

Happy birthday for next week beaut - I don't blame you for wanting to stay in - I feel exactly the same!!

10storeylovesong Thu 17-Jan-13 19:25:07

elly I had one today then you have one either 12 hours or 24 hours later. Mines 24 hours. I have no idea what happens after that tbh, but from the Internet it seems to be around 30 weeks (happy to be corrected if anyone knows better!).

tasmaniandevilchaser Thu 17-Jan-13 20:40:50

scooby your buyers just get weirder! Hope it all works out, not much you can do, just breathe!

rhienne and shelly sympathies from me, hope you both perk up soon. I felt like that after the pneumonia, it took 2 mths to feel myself again. I would recommend keeping warm, lots of fluids, and lots and lots of rest. Also fresh fruit and veg, tons of it. I also liked floradix as a tonic. My grandma used to talk about tonics a lot!

10 hope you are taking it easy, every day that baby grows in there they are a day stronger. If they do arrive early, docs can do so much now, I know someone who,had their baby at 23 wks and baby is fine now at 4yrs old.

I'm 24 +2, feel like I've clambered over a big hurdle getting to 24wks, I'm very happy!

I can empathise with those who are having their DD/S play up. dD is going crazy at bedtime, wouldn't sleep til 9.45pm last night. My patience was all used up, that is time for me to relax.

I saw another thread one of you started about hypnotherapy. I got the maggie Howells cd and not quite sure what happened when I listened, I cannot remember a single word of it, think it had a strong effect on me!

Hi to everyone else, including ukfirestorm! Nice to have a DH on board!

Wirrawoo Thu 17-Jan-13 21:34:51

tassiedevil that hypnobirthing cd sounds powerful! Have been wanting to research the hypnobirthing thing as a close friend found it incredibly helpful in her labour. Will look up that one you mentioned.

scooby crikey Jeebus those buyers sound like total fruitcakes! Really hope it all works out for you in the next few days. You'll deserve one helluva mocktail when you get into your new place! wine

10 so sorry that you're going through this, but it sounds like they are really taking care of you. Like others have said, every day that passes makes your little one stronger and the precautions they are taking will help even more. I have friends who had a baby at 24 weeks and she is now 4 and the life of the party smile with the rest you are getting and the care they are taking of you, you might find yourself going for months yet! We will all be here for you whenever you need it thanks

beaut happy birthday for next week!! Hope you have a great one smile

Sorry to the people who aren't well right now. I don't know about the rules when pregnant, but I have found vitamin C and zinc to work a treat in the past boosting immune system when run down. Best to check before you take any extra supplements though. Hope you feel better soon xx

Went to the doctor today to get a note to fly and also get checked out after the feeling weak/ dizziness. Turns out my blood pressure is low, so it seems like it was just a bit of overwork and not eating enough or in time (!) for those times when it dips. We are hopeless at keeping the cupboards stocked in this house when we are both working lots. Our hours are so crazy. Anyway, have been getting crazily grumpy when hungry in the last few days and feeling really bad for my poor partner when I, ahem, lose my ethereal charm and turn into a right grumpy moo. Am blaming it on blood pressure! Anyway, heard the heartbeat and the baby is doing just fine. The pain in my lower left side turned out to be a little heel!

10storeylovesong Thu 17-Jan-13 21:40:58

tasmanian I've got the Maggie Howells CDs as well and am currently finding them really useful. I don't know whether it's linked - probably not - but I was really struggling until starting listening regularly to it and now I've been sleeping again really well, even with everything going on. I would definately recommend them.

scooby26 Thu 17-Jan-13 21:51:37

Tassiedevil- I have the cd somewhere and listened to it last time - I never heard the end ;-)!

twinklingelephant Thu 17-Jan-13 23:09:57

Hiya. Blimey it's been a while since I've been on here! Good to read a little of what everyone's been up to.
I forget who it is who's moving Norwood / crystal palace way but wanted to tell them to look at the 'crystal palace mums' page on Facebook as we're having a local mum to be coffee on Saturday. Can't wait to meet some local preggers ladies! We'll all have to wear red carnations so we recognise each other. Though the bumps may give it away!

Reenypip Fri 18-Jan-13 00:02:58

Hi, haven't been on this new updated post yet.
How's everyone getting on?
I'm 23+1, and in hospital at the moment.

GeordieCherry Fri 18-Jan-13 00:15:32

Laid in bed feeling very grumpy that we might not be going to my parents this weekend after all, feckin snow

But totally cheered by actually seeing some of the baby's kicks! Little Alien Shearer grin

10, are you home or staying in hospital after the steroids? Hope you're ok

berri Fri 18-Jan-13 04:29:52

Hi reeny how come you're in hospital? Hope everything's ok with you?

How are you today 10?

Scooby hope you're remaining calm and collected in the face of madness grin

I've signed up to a hypnotherapy course! Heard nothing but good things about it so looking forward to getting started.

24 weeks is a great milestone tas, glad you're feeling good smile

ng1412 Fri 18-Jan-13 07:25:18

Well we woke up with no heating or hot water! Boiler had failed overnight. Got a roaring fire now and it is back on, why do these things happen when you need them most?! Luckily our DD's room was still quite warm. Good job as I don't fancy ringing our local boiler man and explaining in my worst French.

10 do you have the injections every 24 hours or just one more? Don't know much about it, sounds like they are taking good care of you though.

Reeny hope you are ok.

Am jealous of all those over 24 weeks! Am 22+5 so not long I guess. This trimester seems to be dragging, I remember feeling that with my DD. Maybe it is because I am bored stiff at home all day....

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 18-Jan-13 09:05:27

Thanks elly it's a big job though, might take up to a couple of months. The snow is quite deep here, no sign of builders yet ...

Hope you're ok reeny.

scooby keep us updated on your bonkers buyers, hope you somehow manage to exchange today.

beaver33 Fri 18-Jan-13 10:30:15

twinkling that's me - thanks for the tip off! Unfortunately I work Saturdays, though, so will have to miss out. We're (hopefully) moving end of Feb.

happy birthday Beaut!


lollypopsicle Fri 18-Jan-13 11:10:55

Hope everyone is coping with the snow ok. Woke up to a bit but not enough to think 'snow day' so if was working today I'd have had to have gone. Since then about 5 inches has fallen and it's still going. So glad I don't work Fridays!! I'd be in a right state by now at the thought of trying to get home in this weather.

Those of you with PGP...did you go to the doctors initially or just put up with it? I'm getting more uncomfortable by the day. Moving/sleeping and sitting on the loo is becoming rather painful for my pelvis. Do you just accept it and get on with things as best you can or is there anything that the doctor can do?

Reenie saw your post on the pg board. Hope everything is ok with you.
Happy birthday beaut and sending 'stay put vibes' to baby 10.

22+1 ( woo! I remembered!)

lollypopsicle Fri 18-Jan-13 11:11:52

Sorry reeny on my phone do couldn't check spelling blush

Boodstress Fri 18-Jan-13 11:37:08

Hi Lolly I have had PSD diagnosed with my first which is pubis symphisis dysfunction but maybe that is now known as PGD. This is my third pregnancy so I am pretty clued up on the exercises and the things not to do. I self diagnosed and then went to the doc at 18 or 20 weeks and they sent me to a physio. I went with each pregnancy. The belt really helps some people so the physio can get you fitted for one. Little things like going up stairs one at a time and getting out of the car and bed two feet together are all really important. Most of all if you are having a V delivery make sure they don't let them put you near stirrups.

To all those that are ill.I have been finding hot honey and lemon,steam inhaling,oblas oil on my pillow,paracetamol every 4hrs,honey by the teaspoon full to help with tickly cough and a hot water bottle as back has been aching all help .

I haven't had anymore heartburn since I got rid of my cough.Is strange as I had it really bad with last two pregnancies all the way through.

Baby is kicking loads.I love feeling him move about.

Not looking forward to the school run later on as the snow is coming thick and fast now we have about 3 inches.So I think I'm going to cancel all birthday plans this weekend and snuggle up with a film and takeaway.DP is only home tomorrow afternoon until Monday morning hmm

Thanks for all the messages.Birthday is Monday.Its the first time it's snowed near my birthday since I was little.


Ellypoo Fri 18-Jan-13 12:49:30

Hi lolly, my MW asked if I wanted to see a physio, and she gave me a sheet with some exercises/positions to help, and they might give you support belts etc which I find help if I'm walking around a bit - might be worth trying to get a referral?

Hope you & your baby are ok reeny, what are you in hosp for?

Any news scooby?

Hope your builders have turned up seven.


10storeylovesong Fri 18-Jan-13 12:59:17

Just a quick update - I had a massive bleed at 4am this morning and was rushed into local hospital. They did a speculum and found fluid they suspect was my waters leaking so I was then rushed to Liverpool Women's hospital with the neo natal on stand by. The bleeding has slowed down a lot now and the last internal didn't show any obvious fluid so I'm just having loads of tests and waiting for another scan.

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 18-Jan-13 13:13:22

Goodness 10 ((hug)) you're really not having an easy time of it are you? Fingers crossed its nothing too worrying, the bleeding stops soon and baby stays put for a few more weeks yet. Make sure you still get your second lot of steroids today, if you're in a different hospital it's easy for these things to be missed unless you mention it. Totally different circs but when I had DS there was a woman staying as she had placenta preavia and kept having big bleeds. They wanted her to stay in so she was never too far away, so if she had a massive bleed she could be seen straight away and they could deliver baby ASAP if necessary.

They did turn up thanks elly, they're digging up the floor first, DCs terrified of the drilling so we're hiding at my parents house.

Oh no 10 Sorry to hear this.You are in the best place.I always have a bit of a nosy at the April thread and two of the ladies on there had their babies at about 24 weeks I think.All is going well for them and babies

ng1412 Fri 18-Jan-13 13:15:43

10 how scary for you but sounds like you are definitely in the right place. You really are going through it, I feel for you.

Also on the other thread they have started a fb group.I think it would be nice to put a face to who om speaking to on here.do have pics on my mn profile.If anyone wants to add me on fb I will inbox my details

LittleSpade Fri 18-Jan-13 13:30:47

Hello all. Just checking in to say hi as not been on here in a while. Was on holiday in the carribean last week and have been busy catching up on work so far this week. Was lovely to have some warmth, sunshine and relaxation time with DH. Also really helped me to focus on being pregnant and feeling the baby's first gentle movements (have anterior placenta). Bit of a shock coming back to snow though!

Will be 24 weeks on Sunday so really looking forward to that milestone.

Sorry to hear of your ongoing scary time 10 - sounds like you're being taken good care of and fingers crossed your baby stays put a bit longer at least.

Waves to everyone else - especially those who are ill or are having stressful times with moving or building work. We had our nursery furniture delivered today - so exciting! Perhaps a little over-organised though as now we'll have to re-decorate around it.

Boodstress Fri 18-Jan-13 13:32:56

Gosh 10 you poor thing. You sound calm so that's something. At least your in there and they are looking after you. Sending lots of positive thoughts!

Ellypoo Fri 18-Jan-13 14:28:12

Oh my word 10, I hope you are ok and managing to not be too stressed. I hope they are keeping a very close eye on you, good that you had the 1st lot of injections yesterday, hope they give you the next lot today, and that baby manages to stay put for a bit longer. Sending lots of best wishes to you xxx

scooby26 Fri 18-Jan-13 14:34:58

10- oh crap... Glad your getting looked after- hope the news is positive for you later nd you get back out today.

We have exchanged!!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!! Phew!!!!

ArtigeneAuberchoke Fri 18-Jan-13 14:45:57

10 - thinking of you and sending stop bleeding vibes. I've heard good things about Liverpool Womens. Is it far from your home if you have to stay in for a long time?

Scooby - yay to exchanging! Great news.

Beut - happy to do the FB thing. Am FB friends with my antenatal thread for DC2 which is happily still going strong after more than 4 years.

FrustratedSycamoresRocks Fri 18-Jan-13 14:46:05

Yay scooby

Scooby Yay at last I bet that's a huge relief.

I can't stop eating chocolate digestives blush

MaybeAMayBaby Fri 18-Jan-13 16:31:26

Great news scooby! And relax ....

10 I'm pretty sure a friend of mine was at Liverpool for the same thing. It was a few years ago now-but we live in the midlands so a bit of a trek. She stayed for a few weeks and was in and out for most of her pregnancy. But she went full term. I can't remember details, but if she wanin for 2 weeks for a bleed it must have been bad! So fingers crossed. Hope that's given hope.

Snow day here. Sent home from school at 11. Luckily I had DHs 4x4. About 6-7 inches here but it's finally just stopped. Is it wrong that I'm hoping for a day off Monday too? 9 school weeks left!


MooLL Fri 18-Jan-13 16:31:45

10 sending you lots of positive thought - great you are sounding so relaxed as that can only help, and you are in the best hands!
scooby yay! Such a relief and you can now forget those frankly bizarre people and get on with planning your life in the new house - so?exciting!

After 2 weeks of cold/flu finally being better - however not until you are pregnant that you realise how much drugs suppress the symptoms normally - been a rough couple of weeks.

In the midst of it all my nanny resigned - thankfully not going until my first day of mat leave - but still all my grand plans of having a month off before the birth with her looking after dd1 for 3 days a week have gone - hey ho! Now to find a family member to help out when I am in hospital and help whilst I recover from my c section - although last time I remember I was walking fair distances 2 weeks after

Hope everyone is warm and safe in this weather - always quite cool having snow in London as doesn't happen often - however know many have got it much worse than us

FrustratedSycamoresRocks Fri 18-Jan-13 16:39:57

beaut try the mini chocolate hobnobs with a slice of banana on. Yummy.

Frustrated That sounds gorgeous.Im going to be the size of a house though grin

ng1412 Fri 18-Jan-13 17:11:21

Congrats to Scooby is it all systems go now then?

Beaut very envy at you eating chocolate digestives. One of the many products we can't get here.

Still waiting for my amnio test results, it seems to be taking an age but it is only ten days since I had it. Wish it would hurry up, have an appt with our consultant on Monday but it is just a check up so won't get them then. I just want to know now.

Hope everyone is safe and warm, we have had quite a lot of snow for a while here in France, of course nothing stops, the place runs as normal. We live in a village and every morning the snow plough comes without fail when there is snow. So different from where I lived in the UK! More snow forecast for next week

shelly81 Fri 18-Jan-13 17:17:52

Sending lots of hugs and well wishes 10 hope things get better for you soon :-). Xxx

berri Fri 18-Jan-13 17:50:26

Excellent news scooby

10 oh gosh poor you, I hope they are taking great care of you in there and you have everything you need. Stay put baby 10!

Ellypoo Fri 18-Jan-13 18:01:02

Fantastic news scooby! What a relief!!

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 18-Jan-13 18:25:41

I will try to set up a fb group tonight if that's ok with everyone? Anyone interested PM your name and I'll add you smile

scooby that's fantastic, so pleased and hopefully you can relax a little more now.

Seven Thanks that would be good.

Ellypoo Fri 18-Jan-13 18:47:48

Thanks Seven - nice to put faces to names!! Will it be a private/secret group? Don't want to 'out' my MN name on FB!!!

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 18-Jan-13 19:09:13

10 hope you are feeling ok, glad they are looking after you, but what a horrible scary thing

lolly don't just put up with it, get to a physio, at least then you know you've done everything you can, even if it doesn't magically disappear. Have just remembered that with DD I had acupuncture, that was quite magic actually! Must get back to my acupuncturist!

scooby hurrah! Great news, you must be so relieved,!

Hi to everyone else,

Oh and about the hypno cd, DH tells me I was snoring like a warthog, so I was very possibly asleep not 'under' as I thought blush

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 18-Jan-13 19:11:03

Yes will make it a private group. My profile pic is a little boy in a white t-shirt so you know it's me when I add you.

Reenypip Fri 18-Jan-13 19:38:18

What's the fb group called?

Hope your ok 10 and looking after you both.

I'm on the maternity ward too in hospital. Because of spinal injury my bladder and bowel don't work without interventions. And with the interventions I've been using, they have stopped working. To stimulate them to work again, can stimulate my uterus to contract too and go into pre term labour, and also because of extra pressure that my bowel could rupture under pressure, so have to stay in until a new plan in place and they start to work.

I'm really upset, as I want to be experiencing the snow with my 1 year old boy and enjoying it with him.

SevenReasonsToSmile Fri 18-Jan-13 20:50:17

reeny that sounds scary, hope they get it sorted and you can get back to your DS soon.

tas I used the CD with DD and never got to hear past the beach part, I don't think it helped me during labour tbh. It only lasted 3 hours though so contractions were pretty intense and I was alone for most of it which probably didn't help so I couldn't relax as much. I'm going to make an effort to stay awake and hear it all this time to see if it makes any difference.

Facebook group is set up, secret group so you won't just be able to search it and join. PM me your name or PM and ask for mine (if you're a common-named type) so I can add you as a friend then invite you to join the group.

Bunnychan Fri 18-Jan-13 21:00:39

Hi ya ladies,
Hope your keeping well or as well as can be.
I' went for a snowy walk today with my DP to his sisters and it ended up taking 1/2 hour there and then 1/2. Omg! I can't move- my hips and pelvis are killing me. I didn't realise how unfit I've become since being pregnant!

GeordieCherry Fri 18-Jan-13 21:59:07

Happy birthday Beaut!!

10 I was at the Liverpool Women's today! They're absolutely brilliant, you're in great hands

Hope everyone's doing ok in the snow

I decided to walk to my hospital appointment & back. 7 mile round trip. My hip flexors are killing!

Had antenatal fitness today, we did abs. I'd kind of forgotten I has any... shock

rachywhite83 Fri 18-Jan-13 22:04:28

10 thinking about you. We are so lucky to be near Liverpool ( the greatest city in the UK imo !) The Women's is such a great hospital. We are all thinking about you x take care of yourself x

rachywhite83 Fri 18-Jan-13 22:05:10

Of Geordie another Liver bird ?!

Geordie I've stopped all my ab excercises during pregnancy as I know most are not suitable when pregnant.Would be interested to know what kind of excercises you did in an ante natal class.We have no classes at all around here hmm

So nice to see some faces on fb.smile

GeordieCherry Fri 18-Jan-13 22:43:36

Hard to describe Beaut, so be patient!

Standing, proper posture, feet hip distance. Pull stomach gently in & slightly tilt pelvis under. Relax & repeat

Seated, knees out to the side & feet in a bit as if you were in 2nd position in ballet. Just so it's comfy, don't sit awkwardly. Fingertips on opposite shoulders so elbows are crossed & lift elbows to shoulder height. Relax shoulder blades down your back. Pull in stomach gently & slightly tilt pelvis, like with the standing one. Relax & repeat

Other one we did was like a smaller version of the Cat in yoga, less range if movement: lift bump up towards spine & slightly tilt pelvis under. We then added to that lifting alternate hands & knees but without wobbling. Think Pilates!

They're very gentle movements so no 6 packs! But I do feel a little tighter in that area smile

Rachy, nah, I'm an ex-pat Geordie bird! Lived in Liverpool a few months

Geordie Thank you.I really do ask some questions I know.In real life I never shut up and I'm so inquisitive about everything.

GeordieCherry Fri 18-Jan-13 23:06:08

It's a v gentle class so I wasn't expecting to be doing the plank today! I know the ones you do laid on your back are no good but plank was okayed by my fitness instructor from circuit training. And a quick Internet search says they're ok, just take it easy

I'm a chatty person too, so carry on! smile

berri Sat 19-Jan-13 04:07:23

How's things reeny and 10?

Hope everyone is keeping warm!
Starting my hypnotherapy class on Tuesday, didn't realise it had come round so quickly! Nervous!

10storeylovesong Sat 19-Jan-13 08:03:18

Well I'm currently sat with a brew and a croissant and life always looks a little brighter with a brew. Yesterday was a long hard day and I've got to admit I'm struggling a bit and fell to pieces after mum and dh left the hospital. The bleeding has settled for the time being again - and scan showed that baby is still doing well. However, we've had to sit down and discuss our options with doctors about how much intervention we want in next week or so if I go into labour, and told the chance of us walking away with healthy baby at this stage is 25%. Obviously this increases day by day and week by week, so I keep telling him to stay put as long as he can but we've been warned I'm highly unlikely to make it past 28 weeks as placenta is coming away so soon he will either stop getting the nutrients he needs and they'll have to get him out, or the bleed will bring on early labour. It's been hard to hear - even though I knew the chances anyway - and I know I'm currently in the best place with great survival rates but my emotions are currently all over the place and between the lights, constant obs in the ward, people pressing their buzzers every 5 mins and the gob on a stick who is in the bed opposite me and thinks the ward revolves around her I've not had much sleep.

Is it petty that after keeping my up all night I've deliberately turned on all my lights for breakfast knowing she wanted to sleep in?! I know it is but I'm past caring after her antics last night - I'm convinced she put my toothpaste in the toilet after I accidentally left it on the sink and when I went back it was down the loo and she was the only one who'd gotten up (small ward of 4 people!).

10storeylovesong Sat 19-Jan-13 08:11:52

Oh and scooby that's fantastic news - I'm so made up for you. You can start looking forward and planning the future again now!'

scooby26 Sat 19-Jan-13 08:38:11

10- really sorry to hear your news- though on the positive he is lively and strong and hanging on in there- good lad! ;-)

Take each day as it comes and keep those legs crossed ! Each day improves his odds which at 25% are already pretty good for someone so dinky- and he's clearly a toughnut so he WIlL be the 25% of that I'm sure!

Hospitals are horrid aren't they?! I was admitted a couple of years ago with asthma problems and discharged myself eventully as I got such little rest - they are never the place to be when your poorly! That said it sounds like you are I'm fantastic hands so hang on in there and keep your headphones in ;-)

Thanks all for your kind words re out move- especially 10- who really should be thinking of herself right now! ;-) -
It is such a relief! I spend the afternoon/ evening sorting out redirection/ cancellation / moving of sky etc etc and also ordering wardrobes and furniture of spied and hoped I'd still get in sale which I have. Not just spending for spending sake- our current house has all fitted wardrobe so really needed to order some new ASAP or nowhere to put all our crap!

Taken the day off work to pack - though not sure the boxes will be delivered in this snow... Could be packing as we walk out the door at this rate- and poor DH has a wooden playhouse to dissemble sometime before next Friday..... Brrrr!

babygeek Sat 19-Jan-13 09:19:52

Thinking of you 10 and your LO, sounds like you are getting really good care. Hang in there little 10! Sending you lots of virtual hugs and brew
Your bed neighbour sounds like a total nob. It's rubbish enough being in hospital without having ppl there that behave so inconsiderately.

scooby yay! for moving into the new house, you must be so relieved to finally have exchanged and now you can start making the new house your home ready for the new addition! Packing sucks, hope it all goes smoothly.

Hugs to all those who are suffering from unpleasant symptoms. Hope they pass soon or are at least reduced. Bump is growing here with lots of kicking now for me and DP. We can now ask her lots of yes/no questions ( just like a magic eight ball! Except with kicks), hours of entertainment grin
Off to make a snowman here today.


lollypopsicle Sat 19-Jan-13 09:24:43

Oh 10 what a worrying time for you and DH. As a couple of people have already said, most of us probably know of a baby that was born really early and is now happily wreaking havoc. I know a baby born at 25 weeks and another at 23 weeks. The 23 Weeker was born last yr at Liverpool and had a tough time but is now fit, well and back home causing mischief.
The 25 Weeker was obviuosly small and needed care but was overall a healthy little thing that went from strength to strength. She is now a bossy 3 yr old.

Stay positive and get some ear plugs thanks

10storeylovesong Sat 19-Jan-13 09:40:13

I have ear plugs on order to be brought in today!

GeordieCherry Sat 19-Jan-13 09:42:32

Berri is it hypnotherapy for hypnobirthing or a career change?

Need to get the hypnobirthing book & CD. Might make a trip out in the snow today to get a Discman (hello the 1990s!!) as no stereo in the bedroom

10, get the light on, get your visitors in, chat away, 'accidentally' drop something loud. Get your own back! People like her are one of my many reasons for wanting a home birth.

Hip flexors are still grumbling after yesterday's walking so going to head for a swim in a bit. Love my comfy new maternity swimming costume too smile

Anyone else getting rib pain? It's not a baby's foot or anything, it's higher up than that in between my ribs. Left side

beaver33 Sat 19-Jan-13 10:53:42

Oh 10 my love - I have such admiration for your strength over all of this. I second everything everyone else has been saying. The only thing you can do is focus on the positives: the sheer wonderful professionalism of the staff at LWH, the expertise re your little boy and the determination of everyone to make sure he and you make it through all of this. That's what everyone is working towards. Keep talking to us, won't you.

Did manage a giggle at your battle with the moron opposite. I've fortunately never had to spend a night in hospital but if I did, that's exactly the kind of thing which would make me seethe. Keep the lights on, use her toothbrush to scrub the toilet and make sure someone rings your mobile while she's asleep. Selfish cow.

scooby congratulations!! thanks well done for persevering!

On the FB group, would it show up that I've joined it on my feed? The only reason I ask is, because of various family difficulties (my sister miscarried at 12 weeks when I realised I was pregnant and it's safe to say this has not gone down well and she is still enormously delicate about the issue 5 months later) I have not revealed my pregnancy on FB. Mainly I don't want the congrats/well-wishing to affect her, which it still would do.

I live in London but am a proud Scot, and lots of my Scottish friends still don't know I'm up the duff.

So if the group outs me, I'll have to steer clear....

cuppateaandagingersnap Sat 19-Jan-13 11:17:22

10 keeping everything crossed for you and LO. Hopefully gobshite in bed opposite will get discharged soon and leave you in peace. Hugs, xx

Scooby glad things moving forward for you - no pun intended! We're doing as much sorting and packing here as possible too, our moving date is the 1st Feb, I think things are a bit more straightforward here in Scotland, we had to exchange contracts before Christmas with a moving date and completion on 1st Feb.

WildeRumpus Sat 19-Jan-13 11:19:51

Hey all, long time no see smile

10 am so sorry to hear your news and echo the positive vibes of everyone else. Sounds like you are in the best place. I cAnt imagine this is at all easy for you. Please talk away here won't you?

Congrats on exchanging scooby smile

Lovely to hear about people exercising and enjoying the snow! And movements! So pleased for you all. And commiserations for the ill peeps sad

Been crazy here, move to Cornwall next month eek! Big change. Bleeding getting worse which is a bugger... Seeing mw on tues which is a relief. Envy anyone enjoying the snow... I can't go out in it but don't mind having to stay in and read by the fire smile am now a stay at home mum and adore it! Luckiest person ever.

Sorry don't post much, now I don't work I rarely use my laptop and phone is rubbish! Do lurk tho smile

Take care ladies, especially 10 and reeny x

SevenReasonsToSmile Sat 19-Jan-13 11:20:10

beaver it's a secret group so only other members can see who's in it and what's been posted. I hope regardless of your sister you're enjoying your pregnancy and not feeling guilty, I'm afraid in 4 months time you will be having a baby and she will have to accept it.

Ellypoo Sat 19-Jan-13 11:21:59

Oh 10 my love, am keeping everything crossed for you and baby10. You really are in the best place, it sounds like LWH is a fantastic place (other than the silly cow opposite).

If the fb group is secret then it won't show up on your feed at all, either that you joined the group or any posts. Looking forward to putting faces to named - seven have you managed to set it up yet? Pm me if you can't find me wink

DH has banned me from leaving the house!

Hello all.
10 Baby sounds like such a lil fighter.Fingers crossed for labour or intervention holding off.Your hospital sounds great care wise but they don't have the greatest bedside manner there do they smile Im actually really shocked that the percentage at your stage is 25 % I would have thought it would be higher.I take it that goes up quite a bit with each day/week.

I have a question about maternity wear.Where is everyone getting there's and what are you investing in.Its like Ive forgotten how to dress properly feel like such a frump.

Good luck to all those moving.We are renting and really should move as the boys are a bit cramped now we've put them together.However,absolutely nothing is coming up at the moment.So it's either move before baby comes or persevere here for longer.I will be sad to move.Not being from this area it has been lovely to be made so welcome by our neighbours.I don't drive and neighbours have been giving me lifts on the snow and checking to see if I need any food in.Thats quite a rarity to me.They all look after me as they know I'm on my own with the boys all week grin

23+ 2

Ellypoo Sat 19-Jan-13 12:10:09

That's really nice to have good neighbours beaut, lovely that they are looking out for you!

I have bought a lot of my clothes from New Look - it's nice and cheap and I got some good things in the sales too. I have mainly gone for leggings & long tops, I have got some jeans and trousers from there too, had jumpers from last time, and I'm still wearing my 'normal' cardies! I have invested in some decent pj's though!!

Elly I just ordered some New Look jeans ones that go over the bump as all my others sit below and drives me mad pulling them up.Where did you get your pjs I need some good ones seem as I ahem live in them blush

Very impressed by the Next courier that made it to my house this morning.I now have some super sensible knee high,flat boots for trudging about in the snow grin .Not that I intend on going far but apparently the boys school never closes in the snow.

ArtigeneAuberchoke Sat 19-Jan-13 12:20:55

Thinking of you 10. I hope your placenta keeps working for a few more weeks. Did they give you the stats for 28 weeks? I bet they are much more comforting. Will you def have to stay in hospital until you deliver.

I was an inpatient for a week before DD1 and remember the annoyance of my bed neighbours. Except I was lucky and my direct neighbour was a lovely lady who was in for months with bleeds when expecting twins. We later recognised each other from MN posts!

Wilde - I had not realised you were moving to Cornwall. I love that part of the world. Where are you now?

Reeny - Sorry to hear about your troubles. I hope your ward mates are nicer than 10s!

Scooby - I will send you a pm for the FB group now I am reassured that it will not show anywhere on my FB profile. For some reason I would be mortified to be identified as a MNer and I am not actually sure why that is.

I am Ebaying my old girls clothes now we know we are having a boy. Just sold a toddler coat and matching hat for £14 + postage so I am happy with that. Only another 5 sacks to sell.

cuppateaandagingersnap Sat 19-Jan-13 12:28:20

Beaut sounds like you have really lovely neighbours smile I found some quite nice maternity clothes in H&M and some tops from mothercare, I'm wearing quite a lot of long sleeved t-shirts with long drapey cardigans over maternity jeans or maternity slim leg trousers, am bored to death of my wardrobe already but can't really justify getting any more as I do have enough, trying to jazz things up a bit with scarves and jewellery. Zulily are doing some good deals on nice maternity clothes if you're looking for something a bit more exciting.

Ellypoo Sat 19-Jan-13 12:35:47

beaut - they are the jeans that I got, I find them really comfortable! I got pj's from Mothercare - I live in mine at the moment too!!!

I have just ordered that MN book - Why did no-one tell me (or similar), so looking forward to that arriving next week!

I'm sure stats for 28 weeks are loads better 10 - and I'm sure that every day will make a huge difference too. Did you wake the nightmare ward neighbour up from her lie-in?!!!

10storeylovesong Sat 19-Jan-13 13:00:43

I did - and very much enjoyed listening to her tutting and sighing!

The survival rate is more like 50% but doc said 1/2 of those would have severe physical or learning difficulties so more like 25% for a fully healthy baby. We're still waiting for someone from neo natal unit to come round who are apparently going to give us a fuller picture... been promised this since 6am yesterday!

Mn book I must have it.Do I get it from on here.Note how I haven't even asked what it's about.I just like spending.

scooby26 Sat 19-Jan-13 13:11:27

Happy snowy weekend all!

My boxes And packaging have arrived so made a Starr in kitchen! Bed 4 was already packed as it was going to have been emptied anyway if fell through as it would become the nursery! Two beds pretty much only have clothes in and we will be getting wardrobes boxes for those so all in all praying we dont have toooo much to do!

Ordered furniture last night; bookcase and tv unit) and I've already been called with my delivery date which is the Monday after I move in-yay!

10- keep your chin up and never rely on thee docs coming when they say- on the positive that's because rightly they will be looking after the littlies- which I'm sure ud prefer.! X

Ellypoo Sat 19-Jan-13 13:18:24

That's great scooby - good to be able to make a start on your packing!

I clicked on it on here, and it took me to Amazon, it was £6.29 with free delivery. TBH I don't really know what it's about, but something to do with home truths every parent should know!

Ellypoo Sat 19-Jan-13 13:18:54
milkandribena Sat 19-Jan-13 15:34:33

Very bored down here - not a lot happening. Apart from the snow.

Great news about the house scooby
Thinking of you 10

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 19-Jan-13 17:21:21

hi all

10 hope you're holding up ok, keep us posted, big hugs xx Every day baby10 is getting stronger. Having a little snigger at beaver's idea of cleaning the loo with the nutter's toothbrush. I remember my nights in hospital without any fondness at all. Earplugs are a godsend. thanks for you

reenyand thanks for you too, hope you're doing ok, sounds rough, take it easy

scooby glad it's all happening now!

geordie Think you're talking about rib flare. I got rib flare with DD, it was awful, painful. But I had acupuncture and it disappeared and never came back.

HI to everyone else, sorry if I've missed any good/bad news, I'm struggling to keep up!

I got some lovely maternity/nursing pjs from M&S, purple vest top and over bump bottoms. I love over bump trousers, so comfy!

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 19-Jan-13 17:22:20

oh and belated happy birthday to beaut!

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 19-Jan-13 17:25:58

beaver that must be so hard for you and your sis sad This time last year I was still devastated by having a MMC discovered at the 12 wk scan, I found it so hard to hear about other pregnancies for a few months. But......you need to enjoy your pg as well, hope she's starting to accept and move forward. So hard I know.

Thank you Tas its on the 21st so your not late yet.Wish I was celebrating my 21st but ill be 32 grin

Thanks for all the maternity wear advice.Ive just spent loads online.Two pairs of pjs,two tshirts and some yoga pants from mothercare.Then some extra bits from new look.

Ooh didn't even know m and s did maternity wear I'm off to look there online now grin

Thinking of you 10 and Reeny thanks and the relaxing properties of wine (even if you can't drink it). Excellent news on the house move Scooby, very impressed that you'll be all packed up and ready to move so quickly!

GeordieCherry Sat 19-Jan-13 21:44:52

Rib flare?? That sounds a bit 70s & a bit space age! Going for acupuncture anyway so I'll mention it, thanks Tas

twinklingelephant Sun 20-Jan-13 00:30:15

beaver would be worth you joining the crystal palace mums page as there's lots of free local stuff being passed around mums and info on things to do. It was nice to meet three other locals this morning. We'll meet again soon but not necessarily on a Saturday. Be great if you could make it. About pages showing up on your thread, it probably would at first but then you click on the icon on the right of it on your feed & choose to hide all updates then it would disappear.
lolly I have PGP too. God it hurts doesn't it?! I moaned at my midwife who referred me to the physio. Took ages for an appt but its really helped. Also, an ante natal yoga or, even better but less common, pilates class will really help too.
seven I will try to PM you for the fb page. I'm much better and checking fb than mumsnet. I've no idea how to though so we'll see! Also, as a teacher I have v high privacy settings on my fb so I don't know that you'll be able to find me to invite me. Lets see what we can work out!

SevenReasonsToSmile Sun 20-Jan-13 09:38:53

Hope you had a better night in hospital 10, and that you're coping in there too reeny.

I may have to invest in some maternity PJs, my bottoms ate getting a bit tight now and I live in them this time of year. I need maternity tights too, we're going out for a friends birthday dinner on Saturday night.

lollypopsicle Sun 20-Jan-13 10:33:17

Thanks for the PGP advice ladies. Not got a mw appt for a few weeks so think I'll make a doc appt this week and ask about physio.
tas I've started pg yoga so hoping that will help. tried to find a local Pilates class but no joy there. Going to sign up for aqua natal classes as reckon the support of the water will make exercise a bit easier. My plan of action is to stay as active as possible without too much of the 'wrong' sort of activity (which appears to be walking at the mo! confused).
Terrified at the thought of being pregnant on crutches with a 2 yr old and having to start maternity leave early sad

Enjoy your Sunday everyone!

tasmaniandevilchaser Sun 20-Jan-13 11:13:49


lolly and anyone else who's suffering from PGP, this website is quite good for advice, if you haven't already seen it

SevenReasonsToSmile Sun 20-Jan-13 13:52:29

lolly aqua natal sounds like a great idea, there's nothing like that here in the middle of nowhere and I don't drive.

This morning we've been busy sledging and make coco pop cakes, it's now snowing again.

I've finally got my (ahem) 20 week scan this week, I take it I must be the last one to have theirs. Does anyone else have any extra scans? I have one at 28 weeks then another at 34 due to previous pre-eclampsia with DS, even though I didn't get it again with DD.

7 I have scans at every Drs appt, so every month until 35 weeks then every week! Was scary when I was PG with DS and the scan said he weighed 8lbs at 35 weeks. He didn't even weigh that much at birth.

SevenReasonsToSmile Sun 20-Jan-13 17:44:37

I was told by GP feeling my belly and by scan that DS would be big, at almost 36 weeks when he was born he was only 4lb 9oz. I have a tiny size 6 friend who was told her enormous bump was mostly fluid, her DS was almost 11lb at birth!

frankienoodles Sun 20-Jan-13 17:44:50

Hi everyone, hope you're all doing well in the snow. we stayed in all weekend painting the nursery. now that we are getting more organised with the baby things it's starting to slowly feel more real although I still don't like to admit what we've bought for him!like someone's going to jump out and say "it's far to early for that!" every time I get something done. we got a pram and car seat on eBay, nursery furniture from my mum's attic! and mother in law keeps throwing baby clothes at us like no tomorrow! I guess it's the same with most first babies and ours is the first grandchild all round too so everyone is going postal.

can't remember who was the very organised one out there doing the Facebook group... seven? was it? I would love to be added but because I'm such a mumsnet newb I can't seem to figure out how to pm my name !

all the best to our snow babies, hopefully they're all warm and safe in massive bellies!


Ellypoo Sun 20-Jan-13 19:12:40

7 I am having quite a few extra scans - had 2 extra ones to finish the anomaly, then at 25 wks (this Fri), then 28, 30, 32 wks then wkly - it really helps with reassurance and to see them plotting the measurements.

I've found H&M good for maternity tights.

Thanks for the link, MW gave me a load of exercises and tips this wk too which is helpful.

To PM, you can click on the persons name and it will give you the option to send a PM.

I have some mothercare tights on order.Having a tights nightmare.All the maternity ones I have bought so far are too big and don't stay up.So I tried regular ones in a bigger size but they cut my bump in hAlf.Haha

I don't want to have to go out in the snow.Ive already skidded a couple of times so frightened of falling.I have ordered food for tomorrow as I don't drive but worried it won't turn up hmm

cuppateaandagingersnap Sun 20-Jan-13 20:53:37

My favourite tights tip is to wear a second pair of knickers over your tights, a la superman, not sexy but keeps them up at the crotch and super comfy blush

lollypopsicle Sun 20-Jan-13 21:07:16

Great tip cuppa! Not sure my DP will thank you for it, though grin

MaybeAMayBaby Sun 20-Jan-13 21:14:08

Evening all.

Hope you've had a good day 10 and Reeny. You're both in my thoughts.

Had loads of snow here today. I reckon we've got about 7-8inches out there! It's been a fair few years since I've seen anything like it. We stupidly have been out all day and I'm relieved to be home.
Snow day tomorrow! I feel like I've been given a present or something!

I'll get round to pm about fb tomorrow. I'm about to sit and watch a film with DH.

As for scans-I'm another having loads. 24,28,32,34 then weekly. Plus I want a 3D soon. Only positive of been diabetic.

Take care all of you-and enjoy the day off if you have an cheeky one tomorrow x

Ellypoo Sun 20-Jan-13 22:10:59

Well it's started snowing here again it not too bad atm, will have to see how it is in the morning - don't want to risk slipping/falling, and can work from home, but I'm also senior staff and should be setting an example. So basically, I want it to either stop snowing completely or for it to snow loads, really heavily all night so there is no chance. Hmm, pretty sure I know which way it's going to go!!

Sparklyboots Mon 21-Jan-13 00:17:34

Hello all, am just popping in to wave, really. All poorly here, tis most annoying, bet I' m better for my three days at work having suffered the whole weekend. Also miffed at the invisibility of being mum - DS is ill too, poor bugger - but wish I warranted some of the concern currently pouring in his direction...

10 how are you? Thinking about you, hope your placenta is doing the biz.

OBEM is starting to have the effect it did just after DS was born- am very burst- into- tears- y when the babies come. Before DS I wouldn't have bothered with it and it s emotional magic had started to fade a bit... now I am weeping willow when it's on (& considering Willow for bump, as a side thing).Anyone else quite distracted/ emotional/ thinking about names? Am NOT discussing names in RL btw, was disastrous last time.. Hope everyone's safely upright in the snow x

10storeylovesong Mon 21-Jan-13 08:07:35

Willow's a lovely name! I really want Sebastian (Seb on day to day basis) but dh isn't keen. He likes the shortened version but not the full name.