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June 2013 Thread 3 - the one where we stop throwing up!

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DontmindifIdo Thu 03-Jan-13 21:47:40

new June thread - we've been chatting too much!

DontmindifIdo Thu 03-Jan-13 21:55:19

Come on over!

So re NCT classes, we did them last time round as the NHS ones near us were held during weekdays, not really helpful, even if I could get the time off, I wanted DH there too. We did an intensive weekend course, worth asking if they do them near you.

It is helpful to meet new people due at the same time, although you can just join the NCT for a lot less and there are regular coffee meet ups etc. Also think if you are on a low income I think they do give you discounts on the course fees...

forgetmenots Thu 03-Jan-13 21:56:26

Hi dontmind! Thanks for the new thread smile

Got my 20wk scan on 25th Jan, but after my midwife appointment on 27/12, I don't have to go back til mid feb (7 weeks!) that feels like a long wait, is that normal?

In other news I got my pram today! So pleased with it and can't fault mamas and papas CS (after hearing bad reports).

MrsBri Thu 03-Jan-13 22:08:21

The NHS does an intensive weekend course here, Dontmind. I'll definitely do that one. Certainly not paying for an NCT course.

I see the midwife after my 20 week scan and then definitely at 28 weeks. Can't remember if there's an appointment in between. I'll look at my green book.

I'm wondering whether to ask for a c section. Would be nice to book in at 38 weeks...I could leave work 2 weeks earlier then! :-)

AmIGoingMad Thu 03-Jan-13 22:27:25

Hello! Just off to bed but wanted to say hi on the new thread first!
Very exciting for you already having date for baby arriving!!!
I have appt with consultant for the week after 20 wk scan to discuss a few issues from last time around. DH is very keen for me to have c section- not for him but for me. Think he doesn't want to see a repeat of last time. We'll see what consultant says although I have heard that around here they really try to talk you out of them- probably due to cost to Nhs!!! I did have to pay to have nt scan remember!

redwellybluewelly Thu 03-Jan-13 22:53:12

Sarah sure I'll share if you do

redwellybluewelly Thu 03-Jan-13 22:57:05

Darn phone

AmI thank you for support on AND, I have a suspicion thats where I'm heading, if I didn't have to get DD breakfast then I wouldn't get out of bed, everything is too much trouble, I'm permanently completely exhausted but then cannot sleep. Haven't accepted bump at all and just feel lardy, in no hurry to tell anyone at all and only DD and DH make me smile

Sunbeam18 Thu 03-Jan-13 23:45:07

Is it possible to get an elective section just by asking?? Or do you have to be recommended to have one by a consultant based on previous history? I'm a first timer so not sure! X

MrsBri Thu 03-Jan-13 23:58:45

It changed recently so you can ask for a section if you want one. Think they will potentially try to discourage you though, but not sure.

CollectorofCookbooks Fri 04-Jan-13 03:46:32

We've signed up for NCT, and I just got the last place on a pregnancy yoga course (6 weeks) which is as much to do with the social side as the exercise! Not sure how applicable NCT will be to us with twins but wanted to meet people.

I am wide awake and have been for over an hour, which is really frustrating - going to be shattered at work. Even finishing my chocolate orange and Bio Oiling my bump hasn't sent me off!

MrsBri Fri 04-Jan-13 03:59:00

I'm awake too :-/

AlohaMama Fri 04-Jan-13 05:13:47

Whaaaat, I go on holiday for one day, everyone is chatting away and we're on a new thread! Reading discussions on maternity leave reminds me of one thing I miss about england. Here I get 12 weeks (generous by american standards) and so if you take any time off before the baby is born that is less time with the baby after. With ds I worked in the morning till going in to the doctor to be induced then went into hospital that night. Anyway, no point worrying about as this baby will be born here. Still deciding what to do about work this time, as have to weigh up cost of childcare etc.

pinkapples Fri 04-Jan-13 06:35:19

Just marking my place on the new thread before I drag myself out of bed for work... May go on strike as getting up is proving more and more difficult

Withalittlesparkle Fri 04-Jan-13 06:50:44

Morning all

Sorry to hear you're having trouble sleeping!! I actually managed to get straight to sleep last night, got up for my 3am wee and fell straight back to sleep!! That's much better than the last couple of nights!!

Still shattered though, people keep promising me that at some point I'll get an energy boost!!!

I'm not sure I'd opt for surgery unless I had no choice, that being said I'm not really seeking the natural approach either, I'd quite like all the pain relief they can muster!!!

DontmindifIdo Fri 04-Jan-13 07:30:50

Morning ladies! I'm seeing a consultant after 20week scan so then not seeing the midwife for another 6 weeks unless there's a problem with the scan. I've been told given the sheer horror of ds's birth and shocking after care fuckups, if I want a c section, I will probably get one. (thats not the nhs wording) Thing is I dont know if I want one...

Dillydollydaydream Fri 04-Jan-13 07:55:14

Ooh nice new thread smile

I think with the c section it's easier to mention it earlier on that you are considering one. It sets the wheels in motion. It's not set in stone so you can decide nearer the time if its something you want to do or not.

Sams4lo Fri 04-Jan-13 08:22:19

I had a checkup with the consultant and told her after dc4s crash section, I want a section again this time! She's put it in my notes and didn't try to put me off, she's more concerned with getting me too 28wks and giving me 2 wkly scans, she said ideally they want me to get to 36 wks so will see what happens smile

Morning everyone.
Thanks for new thread don't mind, I hope the title is right!!
No sickness yesterday touch wood so hopefully that is it starting to pass.
All I do at the minute is sleep, but I don't think the anti sickness meds help, or the fact I've not eaten anything for weeks.
Good to see some confirmed dates. I'm actually terrified of the thought of a c section so hoping nature is going to help me out

Has anyone signed up to any parenting/baby clubs yet, such as boots?
While I'm off work I wondered whether to do it now but not sure if its too early? With boots I know you get some vouchers for nappies etc but not sure how long they will be dated for!

AmIGoingMad Fri 04-Jan-13 09:29:45

Redwelly- make sure you don't beat yourself up about it. It's really tough- especially as you can't make sense of it. Remember that it could very well be hormonal. The sooner you chat to med professional the better- it could be nothing that a bit of rest wouldn't cure or if you need more help they'll point you in the right direction. Nothing wrong with phoning midwife before appt for a chat or asking for appt earlier if you don't want to wait til original appt. if you want to pm me go for it- will try to work out how that all works! Hugs!

Those of you not sleeping- really hope it gets better for you soon as you must be exhausted- its a tiring enough time when you're getting normal sleep!

I liked the boots parenting club as you get 10 points per pound on advantage card til baby is 18 months old. Quite handy with all the nappies/ wipes etc.

Aloha- 12 weeks hey? It must be hard knowing what you would get in uk. I suppose when you see that everyone around you is having the same it can make it seem normal but must still be hard for you.

Sorry I'm not mentioning everyone by name- I keep reading posts and making mental note of replies to each but then my head loses them as I'm typing on phone!

DontmindifIdo Fri 04-Jan-13 09:31:33

Thanks Dilly - think I'll say I want one then and then try to make my mind up...

Aloha - it's hard with more htan one DC isn't it? You need to be earning quite a high wage for it to be worth it.

AmIGoingMad Fri 04-Jan-13 09:33:19

Oo mrsbri- hope the viewing goes well today! smile

As for section- it's a tough call to make. Being told by midwife last time that its lucky I gave birth in this country scared me somewhat. As did the surprise for both her an my go in hearing I would be having a dc2!

DontmindifIdo Fri 04-Jan-13 09:37:54

I've been trying not to think about the birth last time round, I decided I'd get pregnant first and think about the whole birth thing later... <sigh> it seemed like a good plan at the time. Now it's "later".

MrsBri Fri 04-Jan-13 09:52:31

Thanks, AmI, I hope it goes well too. I'm getting a bit desperate now, and we really need to give notice on 10th if we're to move when I want!

We saw a not bad flat yesterday, then found out the agent charges £300 + VAT for the application and contract. And reading online reviews, barely anybody rates them as an agent, so we'll give that one a miss. Think I'd prefer a house / bungalow anyway!

I'm really rather scared by the idea of birth. My sister had a truly awful time with my nephew, bordering on negligence, and ended up having an emergency section. My sister was then really very ill afterwards.

My niece was then elective c section as my sister was told she wouldn't give birth naturally.

Admittedly she gave birth in one of the worst-performing maternity units in the entire country (thank god I don't live there now), but I'm still rather bothered by the entire thought of it. Maybe I'll discuss it with my MW and see what she says about my birth phobia!

It's a difficult one now that there is choice.

MrsBri Fri 04-Jan-13 09:54:22

Oh, spent almost the entire night awake stressing about work and how much I hate it and the (immediate) people I work with. And about the proposed compulsory increase in hours if I start my changing contract.

I also had to get up to be sick, which isn't great. I'm not normally sick in the night.

Must email my soon-to-be manager in a bit and tell him that I don't think I can increase my hours due to being pregnant and exhausted and see what he says.

Hawkmoth Fri 04-Jan-13 10:05:12

Right well it's about time I de-lurked. Expecting number three 17/06, bit of a surprise! Now that I can feel movements I guess it's time I started taking it a bit more seriously, have told work this week and had to buy maternity pants... I feel like a house, but taking comfort in the fact that after two babies there is just no more room for stretch marks... Honestly, it's like the stretchy stuff they keep expensive peaches in down there!

Hoping for a home birth like with my last. After an induction with the first... and stuff... nothing beat having a round of toast (with pâté - I miss pâté like nobody's business), quick shower and straight to bed after having DS in the front room.

So hello everyone, now that I'm out of denial I will pop up now and again I expect.

MrsBri Fri 04-Jan-13 10:54:03

Hi Hawkmoth! Nice to meet you...come and join in our chatting every now and then now you've appeared once! :-)

SunnyL Fri 04-Jan-13 11:10:47
redwellybluewelly Fri 04-Jan-13 17:39:35

AmI had my MW appt today, baby is doing ok with a good strong heartbeat. I had to take DD with me so had to hold it together somewhat but after discussing lack of sleep, sickness, anxiety, pure exhaustion, feelings of depression no joy about the pg or even wanting tell people or have any delight its not AND but PTSD and its becoming quite significant. The PTSD is effectively magnifying all the usual aches and pains and mood swings of pregnancy, in a lot of pain as well from uterus growing which MW said wasn't unusual but how I feel about that pain is just adding to the anxiety.

I haven't even looked at the scan pics since they were taken.

Problem is there is nothing in our PCT area for support in a pregnancy after poor outcomes. No mental health midwives, no counselling, no helpline or specialist teams. Not for severely traumatic birth, stillbirth, neonatal injury etc. MW said it was an embarrassment. So I have to go to GP next week who initially referred me to a psychologist months ago. But drugs won't help, so no easy solution.

AmIGoingMad Fri 04-Jan-13 18:32:13

Welcome hawkmoth!smile

Redwelly- poor you that sounds terrible! It's so awful that it really is a matter of your postcode deciding your standard of care! Is there no way they can refer you across to another, better equipped pct? It seems madness that you can't access the help you so desperately need just due to where you are! Can the gp at least rush your appointment through? See them and ask this as you need something to give you peace of mind sooner rather than later. Daft me saying that- safe to say its something you already know. Just want you to know that you have support here. If just talking it through helps even a little then do it- I'm sure the others will agree or you're welcome to pm if you want to. I'm in no way qualified to help but I think a good listener outside your immediate support network must help? Sounds like as with some others on here ( me included) the birth bit seemed like something to think of later and now later has arrived. With your past experiences it must be hard but you will get through this I'm sure of it. Sending hugs!x

AmIGoingMad Fri 04-Jan-13 18:32:35

Mrsbri- how was bungalow?

AmIGoingMad Fri 04-Jan-13 18:34:12

Dontmind- it was you I was thinking if with the 'later' arriving now. That's such a good way of putting it x

MrsBri Fri 04-Jan-13 18:55:55

The bungalow was awesome. We've put our application in and we are just waiting to hear if it is accepted. Fingers crossed.

It even has a sun room in the garden!

Redwelly, so sorry to hear how you're feeling and your diagnosis. I hope you get seen very soon.

I emailed the training principal at work today and told him how work is stressing me out. Too scared to see if he's replied now as I really slated some of my colleagues and their laziness. Ah well, done now! At least I should sleep tonight after only 4 hours last night.

massagegirl Fri 04-Jan-13 19:22:22

Hello June ladies! I'm new to this one.. Due 1st June. Been a bloomin roller coaster but finally have the all clear that baby is well and have started feeling wriggles! Hope you are all doing well. This is first baby, have just signed up for nct as new to my area so wanted to meet people and also a class called lazy daisy which is exercise and relaxation based.

Hello newbies grin
Glad the bungalow viewing went well.
I've only been sick once today so fingers crossed starting to improve my end.

webminx Fri 04-Jan-13 20:27:09

Hi ladies,
Just checking into the new thread. All well here I think - feeling flutters, still exhausted but seems to be getting better. Yay! Now for a bit of TMI: Have VARICOSE VEINS in my thigh (and a little higher up iyswim). Cannot believe it. Had this with DC1 too, but much later on. Am bit traumatized. Bit sore but mostly just make me feel a little gaggy when I look at them ... Am I alone?!!?

MrsBri Fri 04-Jan-13 20:40:27

Hmmm...I'm now scared to look at my thighs!! :-)

The training principal was really lovely when he emailed back. Agreed a compromise with my working hours, which is great. He was so nice I may go back after maternity leave.

curlyclaz13 Fri 04-Jan-13 20:56:08

The Boss asked when I plan to start maternity leave yesterday I told her my plan is to start it on 1 June but to take any holiday owed immediately before. she couldn't get her head round it and kept saying she left two months before and I will have no holiday left. explained I plan to take rest of the year off and I think she gets it now. she had no idea about my rights or what I can do when I come back, I think I will want to do part time but she suggests treating me like a locum. I don't think so !

MrsBri Fri 04-Jan-13 21:14:37

Honestly, companies are so clueless. Scary really!

I've requested my risk assessment. Not sure the previous HR person knew about them. Worked out when I'm taking all my annual leave too.

Feeling much happier now than I was this morning. Thank god :-)

DontmindifIdo Fri 04-Jan-13 21:16:08

Curlyclaz - sounds a bit crap, do you have a HR department you can talk too? If not, have a look on the gov website, I'm sure there's stuff you could send links over to 'help'...

curlyclaz13 Fri 04-Jan-13 21:19:45

I think part of the problem is I work for a very small company with 5 employees (optician's) so boss is the owner. I am the only pregnant lady to work there since she opened 27 years ago ! clueless is an understatement. risk assessment was delegated and I was no part of it so had to go looking for it.

DontmindifIdo Fri 04-Jan-13 21:31:57

oooh, risk assessment, I'd forgotten about that !!!! I'm looking forward to the 'seat' lady coming in again, last time round, the H&S for having a pregnant staff member involved a) some random woman coming round to measure my chair and adjust it for me and b) my then boss throwing her weight around as at the time there was swine flu, and "my PA can't be expected to get the tube!" she kicked off until it was agreed that someone would have to give up their car park space if swine flu in London got bad. To put in perspective, there are only 20 places, there are over 60 partners in the London office, a car parking space is basically a sign you have made it, so to be told that someone (but not her - let's not be silly!) would have to be told to give me their space was causing panic, however as my old boss billed several million more than anyone else in London that year, she was being humoured...

AmIGoingMad Fri 04-Jan-13 23:10:37

Welcome massagegirl!smile

Mrsbri- glad you feel better about work now. Hope you get more sleep tonight and that application goes well!

Webminx- haven't noticed any as yet so am keeping fingers crossed not to. Hope yours ease!

AmIGoingMad Fri 04-Jan-13 23:12:01

Little miss- glad sickness is starting to ease smile

pinkapples Sat 05-Jan-13 03:44:02

Very cross I'm awake woke up for my normal 3am wee and can't get back to sleep to date this has not happened even if I get up 2 or 3 times in the night! shockdon't know what this face is but it seemed appropriate

In other news not feeling to sick anymore exhausted is an understatement though as I cannot keep my eyes open at all when I get in from work and I don't know if I've felt fluttering a yet I can't imagine what it feels like so can't decide am 18 weeks on Tuesday so just want the scan now to tell me everything's alright don't know how I'm going to get back to sleep but am going to attempt it wish me luck!

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 03:51:52

I'm awake too. Again :-/

I'm not worrying tonight, I just can't sleep. I think I must wake up too much from my sofa nap when I come to bed.

Hope you get to sleep soon, pinkapples.

In other news, my bump feels a bit harder today, not quite so podgy-feeling. Interesting development!

pinkapples Sat 05-Jan-13 07:45:25

Aww mrsbri I was thinking that but there is no way I can stop myself going to sleep on the sofa grin

My bump is also getting harder which must be a good sign still a bit podgy in the middle under my belly button but defo around the sides and top bit gringrin

SunnyL Sat 05-Jan-13 08:29:33

Had someone go for their first grobe of my non-bump last night. It was my colleagues wife demanding to know what it was. I called out loudly it was a baby and hopefully human and she backed off. Bit weird especially since i'm still not showing.

18+3 now and still don't think i've felt it. Fingers crossed i do soon cos you're all making me jealous.

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 09:17:49

No, I just die on the sofa most nights...where's the second trimester energy people talk about? Nowhere near me :-/

Sunny, how rude of that woman. But yay for your response! :-)

Felt sick in the middle of the night again. Hope that isn't a new feature.

I barely feel bubs. Assuming what I'm feeling IS bubs. And still 4 weeks til my scan. Not sure how I will cope if the MW can't find the heartbeat on Monday.

Withalittlesparkle Sat 05-Jan-13 09:27:22

Urgh at people touching bumps, so far it's only been family but to be honest even that freaks me out a bit, largely because I mostly feel my belly is fat rather than baby!! They wouldn't come up to me prepregnancy and run my belly after I'd had a big dinner would they?!

Bri I have a midwife appt on Monday too, do they always look for a heartbeat? All she told me was to bring a pee sample with me so have no idea what to expect!!!

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 09:35:34

Ha ha, sparkle, you'd bloody hope not. Though there are some strange people out there.

I was told they'd listen if I want, but may not be able to find it due to position of bubs, but they wouldn't refer for a scan if they couldn't find it, as it is totally normal. Must remember to take my pot of wee. Which I'll have to produce at work!

curlyclaz13 Sat 05-Jan-13 10:08:04

So far two people have had a feel of my 'bump' one occasion was when I was about 10 weeks ! then on new years eve and they rubbed just below my ribs so I told him he was rubbing my fat ! I hope customers at work don't start doing it some of them feel like they know me too well already !

dreamydays Sat 05-Jan-13 10:42:04

redwelly sorry you're having a hard time. Sending sympathy x

dontmind I enjoyed the car park story!

Can't bear it if people touch my bump - why does pregnancy make you public property?

Am not feeling well - headache, throwing up - and bump seems massive, so just hoping it's nothing to worry about. And still no amnio results.

DontmindifIdo Sat 05-Jan-13 10:56:34

I've already started saying "I hated people touching my bump last time round" in an attempt to make it clear that I'm not the world's lucky budha.

olimoss Sat 05-Jan-13 15:18:35

Welcome to the new faces (?names...?), more the merrier.

I swear my bump is getting harder/firmer and it's def feeling heavier, not so comfy.

We took our first tentative steps into gear shopping this morning, taking a look at buggies. Insane range, but overwhelming. What have you all got, if anything? We want small and light as possible, shame you can't just get a stroller from the outset!

I've still not put on a pound and it seems to be a fair way along for that still to be the case, albeit I was a bit chub at the start. Should I be worried, do you reckon?

DontmindifIdo Sat 05-Jan-13 15:27:44

Olimoss - if you were a little overweight before, it could be you are balancing out if you are now eating healthier and losing some of the excess fat but gaining baby weight IYSWIM. Mention it to your midwife if you're concerned, but even though I've expanded, I don't think Ive gained much.

pinkapples Sat 05-Jan-13 15:35:28

Went shopping today with the rents oh my god everything is so expensive bought a bed set as my dad wanted to buy us something £230 for bumper quilt pillow blanket mobile teddy and sheet!!! Then looked at prams think we're going to get a mamas and papas urbo not 100% yet but I'm quite short so don't want massive heavy thing and its really light and steers well (dad and hubby having races around the shop)

Feeling big but fat big not baby big I think that's just me tho as everyone says they can tell now. Still chub tho I think grin 2 weeks to scan will mAYBE relax if alls ok so fingers crossed no feeling as such yet but there are twinges that I guess could be put down to baby as they can't really be anything else who knows I'm just guessing

forgetmenots Sat 05-Jan-13 15:38:13

Olimoss I'm the same - I have a bump but haven't gained weight. I was a little overweight before conceiving. This is even despite eating like a champion and not throwing up for the whole first trimester. Hoping it means when I get big weight gain it will balance out!

olimoss Sat 05-Jan-13 15:57:26

Thanks Forget and Dontmind - good to hear...!

Yes it's weird - pretty sure clothes are looser than ever across back and legs but mad-tight on gut and boobs. Now not really sick anymore (apart from bloody migraines) am back to normal swimming and gym regime with the personal trainer.

Never in my life have I been able to eat so many carbs (wonderful, wonderful carbs) without a massive chubbing up!

Fidget275 Sat 05-Jan-13 15:59:03

Marking place... Will b back later for a good old catch up! grin X

I have just got out of bed! I can't wait to have the energy to go shopping! I wasn't sleeping but physically did not have the energy to get up. I really need to start eating but something keeps stopping me, I'm either sick or nausea comes over me
Has anyone started decorating baby's rooms yet ( for those with dc already probably not relevant)?

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 16:13:00

I have a bump and have also gained LOADS of weight. My breasts must account for 1kg though as they are so big and heavy! I don't seem to be expanding quite so much now, but I have stopped eating as much now the hideous nausea has passed.

My bump is still way ahead of where it should be! May be massive by the end...still all front though.

I just woke from a surprise nap! One minute watching TV, the next waking up about 40 minutes later. Lovely stuff!

Fidget275 Sat 05-Jan-13 16:40:34

Wow... Back sooner than I thought! Well for the last two weeks i have been mostly sleeping, so its fab to catch up on mn and read that you are all asking and worrying about the same things as me! Still a month until
my scan so feel in pregnancy limbo atm, not a lot happening!

Bump is expanding, finally admitted defeat and bought some maternity gear!

Sat down with dp and finally worked out some kind of finance plan (we have been putting this off for a while!) and it looks like part time is a viable option for me! Woop! However, this means pretty much giving up my hard-earned management role, so many nights have been spent tossing and turning trying to decide what is the right thing to do!

And then I realised I couldn't give a crap about work or sliding back to the bottom of the ladder and so the maternity countdown begins... 18 working weeks and counting! grin

I hope those of you who are house hunting get settled soon! The keys to our new house were handed over to us the week i found out about baby. To picture my house then walk down the road and take a left turn at 1972. hmm
To picture my house now, imagine a pile of bricks and floorboards arranged to form some kind of wall and floor like structures (not even that in some cases) sucking money out of your bank account, holding your dp hostage at weekends and evenings and insisting you spend 3 months (and counting) living with your mother in law. confused


Just out of interest, anyone else here in the coventry/warwickshire area? Xx

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 17:00:21

You must finish when I do, I think, or maybe the week before. I'm finishing on 17th May, I think. 3 weeks' leave, then ML starting 10th June, 2 weeks prior.

I'm considering part time return too if possible. I've had the same thought about my career. See how I feel afterwards though, and the money situation.

My scan is a month today too...what's your due date?

3 months with the in laws? Brave! When do you move in?

Hopefully I'll get good news this week and I can start planning :-)

Kind of exciting, isn't it?!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 05-Jan-13 17:35:18

fidget I got married in Coventry!! But don't live there, but am sort of local!!

curlyclaz13 Sat 05-Jan-13 18:14:06

Fidget, I am in Rugby. work in Coventry though.

Mutley77 Sat 05-Jan-13 18:51:17

Just introducing myself....

Pleased to see many of you are still exhausted, I don't remember this from previous pregnancies, must be my age ;)
I am due on 25 June with baby number 3. We are also emigrating to Australia in about 2 months which is causing me a certain amount of panic - any advice welcome!
I am just researching prams and don't want to spend a fortune so at the moment it's between the mountain buggy swift and the babystyle oyster - any recommendations?
So, I have an appointment with midwife on Monday then scan start of Feb and Consultant appointment a week later - is that fairly typical?

webminx Sat 05-Jan-13 19:27:26

I find random people rubbing the bump VERY irritating as am a bit funny about personal space. With DC1, I got so annoyed, I used to pat their tummy back, smiling indulgently, but without comment. Very funny watching the dawning realization on people's faces that I was taking the piss... ;-)

CollectorofCookbooks Sat 05-Jan-13 21:32:39

Well, here's a new one for you ladies - today I have received an anonymous parcel in the post, containing a tshirt which reads 'I'm not fat, I'm PREGNANT!'

No idea who sent it, pretty pissed off, would rather be rubbed like a lucky Buddha! Thread in Chat if you can try and help me solve the mystery.

On a separate note, been for my regular waxing today and ow!! I do seem to recall someone saying you shouldn't have a bikini wax pre going into hospital, does anyone know if this is true? Due to infection or something? I realise I'm thinking way too far in advance here!

Sunbeam18 Sat 05-Jan-13 22:33:52

Collector, your post reminded me of something I wanted to ask - is anyone else growing lots more hair than usual?? I seem to be, and not on my head! Hormones, I guess!

collector I had a bikini wax in June with previous pg and remember it hurt more! Not had one in this pg yet. my hair is overdue a cut but I had to cancel my hairdresser appt in dec due to sickness.
I've just booked my nct classes, feels more real now some how

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 22:45:04

Sunbeam...I have a delightful hairy belly / front :-/ Lovely. Not!

Collector, what a weird gift. Just bin it and forget it!

AmIGoingMad Sat 05-Jan-13 22:45:25

Welcome muttley! We have the same due date! I have midwife appt on tues, scan 11th feb and then consultant appt wk after that. I didn't have any consultant appts with DS though.
As for hair- not noticed any changes there yet but my chin is covered in spots! Everyday a new one arrives. This wouldn't be so bad if one of the others disappeared to make room but no, of course not! I don't really get spots in normal life but last pregnancy I was the same around this time too!

Sunbeam18 Sat 05-Jan-13 23:19:09

Good to know, MrsBri! I seem to have more facial hair - nice!! Does this mean its a boy?!

I haven't been sent a consultant appointment, but have scan date of 1 Feb. Should I have one?

forgetmenots Sat 05-Jan-13 23:21:46

Sunbeam and MrsBri - I will join the yeti club. Belly in particular and the line down the middle is thick hairs (like eyebrow hair!!)
I'm dark anyway and have hairy-ish arms and legs at best of times, but at the moment I can't keep on top of it! Read somewhere that I should use creams which is what I normally do, so, er... It's been a bit au naturel. Poor DH, it's not pretty, but at least I am warm in winter smile

forgetmenots Sat 05-Jan-13 23:22:28

Oooh sunbeam yes, facial hair too. Wondered about gender as thought it may be testosterone?

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 23:24:37

Possibly a touch more facial fur...think I was trying to deny it :-)

Wonder if it does mean boy?

I'm quite hairy generally too, but no hairy line on my belly. I'll add a yet to that though!

forgetmenots Sat 05-Jan-13 23:46:53

I meant to say 'read somewhere I shouldn't use creams...' !

No one warned me about this!

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 23:55:48

I'm concerned about the moult afterwards too!

forgetmenots Sun 06-Jan-13 00:16:58

Haha, oh dear, have to say when I did attempt to get rid of my new layer, the bath looked like a furball afterwards... The moult will hopefully be much more gradual grin

MrsBri Sun 06-Jan-13 03:01:34

Ooh...just had first pregnant lady nosebleed. I'm sure there will be plenty more now I've started with them!

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 07:40:34

Collector, yep, bits are more sensitive in pregnancy so waxing hurts more. And there is some evidence that you are less likely to have infections in stitches if you are full muffed than Hollywood, which is why they stopped shaving woman. I guess the hair is there for a reason...

Re the t shirt, it's probably someone trying to be funny/cute, do you have along commute? I must say, one of those "baby on board" badges is much more classy!!!

Nose bleeds started here too, it's all so glamorous being pregnant

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 07:44:37

Mutley, how old are your older dcs, will you need double or buggy board for them? You might be better waiting and seeing what's available in oz. oh, your going to be having a winter baby while we're all having summer ones!!!! (sorry for obvious stating)

MrsBri Sun 06-Jan-13 08:44:19

You're so right, Don'tmind, glamorous at every turn! :-/

Interesting re hairy bits as I like to keep mine neat. Think I'll keep it trimmed if it's best not to remove it, for my own sake. I'm not keen on letting it roam free!!

Really need to be productive today. It's so difficult though as I've less energy than the first trimester somehow!

How is everyone today?

massagegirl Sun 06-Jan-13 09:23:12

I tried to 'neaten' up down below as had really let myself go! Managed to nick myself without realising and then thought I was having spotting... Embarrassing. Think might need to leave it to the professionals.
Agree with the no energy, I've stopped being sick this week and thought I might 'bloom' but just knackered and getting a cold. Does the blooming actually exist?!

MrsBri Sun 06-Jan-13 09:32:39

Oops, bush trimming fail there, massagegirl! ;-p I wonder if DH would like to do some pruning for me?!

I think the bloom is a myth. I struggle to find the energy for anything these days, it has to be said. I'd rather lounge around.

Which is why I'm going to start aquanatal classes, clearly! Maybe it'll help. Or kill me!

SunnyL Sun 06-Jan-13 11:25:46

I think it is possible to have a 'bloom'. I've been keeping quiet since there are clearly people on here going through a pretty tough time. I didn't really get morning sickness - just a couple of weeks of naseau. I got over my tired period about 6 weeks ago and have been feeling pretty fabulous since then. Sorry - that probably doesn't help right now but maybe it will give you hope that you might start feeling better soon. I'm 18+3 now.

Also got a fabulous text from my mate at New Year who is 6 months. It was a video of her new dance called 'Oppa Pregnam Style'. If she can dance like a hooligan at 6 months then I'm damn well going to try.

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 11:29:26

Bloom is a real thing for a lot of woman, I'm sure I only feel like death because ds decided I wanted to start the day at 4:30am sad

MrsBri Sun 06-Jan-13 11:39:04

I'm glad the bloom does exist...it gives me hope for number 2!

I think part of my problem is work stress, and the length of my working day. If I didn't have a commute, I'd potentially feel a bit better, I think.

Maybe I'll start to pick up soon :-)

massagegirl Sun 06-Jan-13 12:02:41

Good to hear about the bloomings. I do feel much better than I did, think its just the addition of cold/chesty cough which is annoying as without it reckon I'd be good. Today is all about fluids and rest to try shake it before work tomorrow.

maisiebeem Sun 06-Jan-13 12:37:09

Hello all! this is my first time writing on a page, just thought it would be good to have a few people to talk to who are due around the same time!
My due date is June 12th, this will me mine and my dh first child! exciting times ahead! smile
pregnancy is all going well, over the morning sickness now (touch wood!), but still feeling shattered most of the time! when should i get my energy back?!

redwellybluewelly Sun 06-Jan-13 13:01:38

The bloom certainly happened with dc1 but this pg is harder in every way so far.

Dh is still refusing to do more than a 50/50 split of night wake ups with dc1 and after a rough night last night I am utterly exhausted. MW said yesterday that I need to get as much rest and sleep as possible but dh just doesnt get it. We were meant to go out today for my birthday but I have no energy and having done a weeks food shop (solo) this morning and a tonne of work to do for tomorrow I dont see rest happening any time soon.

forgetmenots Sun 06-Jan-13 13:27:35

Hi Maisie I'm due on the 12th or 13th with my first too! Very exciting smile
Can't help much about the sickness, I've been lucky and managed to avoid that, hope you feel better soon!

pinkapples Sun 06-Jan-13 13:29:16

I'm due on the 12th to with our first grin not feeling sick just absolutely exhausted

Sunbeam18 Sun 06-Jan-13 13:30:29

Sunny, I'm the same. I've never had any sickness, and have been feeling pretty great for weeks. I'm 16+5, but crucially don't have any dc taking up my energy! X

cupcake78 Sun 06-Jan-13 13:41:59

Hello ladies! Due end of June, 26 to be exact. Beginning to feel human after terrible sickness grin

Energy is slowly coming back but still not up to full speed.

Noticing a few things lately. I'm very hairyblush, far more hairy than last pregnancy. Also my boobs still hurt and seem to be getting even bigger which seems impossible!

maisiebeem Sun 06-Jan-13 13:56:36

Hopefully getting back into the swing of things when i go back to work tomorrow will give me more energy (i work at a nursery school). I think i over indulged alittle over the christmas period - lots of lie ins and afternoon naps! strangely sometimes the more sleep you have the more tired you are! although im sure this is not the case when you already have dc!

I was wondering if anybody has started to feel the "flutter" yet? I havent felt any movement yet - well - not that ive noticed, i dont realy no what im looking for i suppose!

No flutters here yet, but as you said I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Tbh I'm not expecting to feel anything for a few weeks yet with anterior placenta. Have midwife this week when I'll be exactly 17 weeks so wonder if she will get a heartbeat.
No sickness yesterday yeh!!! Fingers crossed its starting to finally pass touch wood
I'm still exhausted but I think the fluey thing I had over Xmas didn't help. I need to try and get into a proper sleeping routine though as still wide awake at 2am this morning then I spent all of this morning in bed. DH is on nights this weekend so maybe that's not helping

ella0 Sun 06-Jan-13 16:30:40

I'm not any hairier than usual and I know I'm having a girl, so there could be something in the gender thing...

forgetmenots Sun 06-Jan-13 16:34:17

Oooh that's interesting Ella! Any other 'yetis' finding out sex? (Even though I'm not I'm still enjoying playing the guessing game!)

massagegirl Sun 06-Jan-13 16:45:01

Am 19 weeks and been having flutters for past week. Have a posterior placenta and crap stomach muscles so think that helps. Feels like when you have butterflies in your tummy but in one place and singular movements if that makes sense. At my 16 weeks app it took me ages to find heartbeat then she prodded in one place and we could both feel baby move out of way, that was a strong movement and not hd anything like that since.
I had an amnio so the sex of the baby is 100% known, but we haven't asked for it yet... Decisions decisions!

pinkapples Sun 06-Jan-13 16:48:25

Just had hubby measure intended nursery for furniture fitting and discovered the beautiful £1000 set I wanted wont fit sadsadsad now to find a backup plan

MrsBri Sun 06-Jan-13 16:54:56

I have definitely been feeling something, and I would say that it's too different from anything I've ever known to be anything other than bubs making 'his' (I don't know) presence known. It's quite intermittent though. I'm either 16 or 16+4 depending on which date we use. I've had this for a good couple of weeks at least.

I hope we can find the heartbeat at my MW appt tomorrow afternoon. Still torn as to whether I'm going to ask to find as I'll be a bit 'arrgggghhh' if we can't, and then it's 4 weeks til the 20 week scan, during which time I KNOW I'll drive myself bonkers!

And as a fellow 'yeti' I can say that I won't be finding out the sex at the scan, though we both have the feeling it's a boy and we tend to refer to it as he too.

One or the other, eh? :-)

MrsBri Sun 06-Jan-13 16:56:35

And oh no, pinkapples, how annoying.

If we get the bungalow we're going to have to cancel our nursery set as there are built in wardrobes in the room, so there's really no point buying a wardrobe as well.

We will then use the cot bed from a friend and DH's sister has said her and her husband will buy the dresser / changer for us.

Bit cheaper that way!

Sarah2506 Sun 06-Jan-13 17:21:21

It's a girl!!!! Whoop!! We are so pleased, and so relieved as we have been calling it she since the word go. DH has five sisters and they all have boys so it always felt like this one would be a girl. A little girl!!!!

forgetmenots Sun 06-Jan-13 17:32:54

How lovely Sarah! Congratulations smile

curlyclaz13 Sun 06-Jan-13 17:41:30

those of you with anterior placentas when did you find out ? I haven't been told at 12 week scan but haven't felt any movement at 18 weeks. I wonder if this may be why ?

Sarah2506 Sun 06-Jan-13 17:44:33

I have an anterior placenta and am 17+2 today. Haven't felt anything - she said its like putting a duvet between you and baby and takes a lot longer to feel kicks.

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 17:57:48

Thats great Sarah! I'm sure I read somewhere that the majority of pregnant woman who didn't know what they were having when asked to guess the gender guessed correctly. With DS we picked his name before the 12 week scan, we were arguing about girls names on the way to the hospital as nothing seemed to fit the bump, MIL is sure this is because we knew we were having a boy.

This time round, we've pretty much agreed for either, so that theory doesn't work anymore (And I'm definately only having one!)

MrsBri Sun 06-Jan-13 17:58:02

Yay! Congrats Sarah. How lovely. :-)

Wonder if we do have a sense about it?!

How lovely Sarah
Curly it's in my notes after my 12 wk scan. Sonographer briefly mentioned it but said they are really more interested in placenta position at 20 wk scan

maisiebeem Sun 06-Jan-13 18:18:47

sarah thats really good!
I'll have to study my notes from my 12week scan, find out where the placenta is! Have most people started buying bits and bobs? i really want to, but dh isnt keen on buying anything "too early"
I loved hearing the heart beat, i think i actually felt a bit more emotional hearing it than i did seeing it at the scan. Looking forward to 20 week scan though at end of January smile We arent going to find out if its a boy or girl, so guess we'll be getting lots of yellow and green things!!

maisiebeem Sun 06-Jan-13 18:23:41

i also need to stop calling my baby "it"!

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 18:25:48

oooh, Maisie - for those who don't find out, shall we have a little experiment, perhaps around 30 weeks, you can all say what you think you are going to have and then we'll see if you were right!!!

Although Maisie, I'd say you don't need to buy much anyway in the way of clothes and white bedding is best so you can hot wash it and not worry! And if you've not gone for blue or pink then you can use it for the next one...

MrsBri Sun 06-Jan-13 18:29:29

Yellow is the way forwards for decoration. White for baby grows etc :-)

I like that idea, Don'tMind. Will be really interesting to see.

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 18:33:27

oh god, white babygrows, apart from anything else, so you can deal with poo stains a little easier (bleach then wash again in sensitive stuff) when they do one of those "all the way up the back, nearly in their hair" poos. Oh god, I'd forgotten about those <vom>

maisiebeem Sun 06-Jan-13 18:39:20

Oh so much to look forward to! Haha! I've always wondered why people but so many white baby grows and bedding -makes sense now! Didn't think about hot washes, bleach etc!
Luckily with the future nursery it's already decorated nicely, With floral blue wall paper on one wall- so I'm saying that will do for either! Hehe!

maisiebeem Sun 06-Jan-13 18:40:41

And that is a very good idea to all guess at 30 weeks! For a re first few months I was convinced it as a girl, now I'm leaning more towards a boy!

Mutley77 Sun 06-Jan-13 18:44:26

Am I going mad - glad to see there is someone due on same day as me!! Do you know why you are under consultant care this time? I am with Consultant for previous C/S - a bit apprehensive as my Consultant here is lovely and I obviously don't know who I will get in Australia (!)
I have loads of spots too.... Nightmare.

Don'tmindifIdo - my older DC's are 4 and 8 so won't need a buggy board or anything.... The choice of prams is much more limited in Australia and prices are higher so def worth buying it here and putting it with the shipping, hence researching early. I have a friend who has recently been over for a return visit from Australia pg with her DC2 and bought her pram to take back on the plane.

Littlebiker Sun 06-Jan-13 19:02:44

Forgetmenot- I am also a fellow yetti.Hairy belly and face ( combined with regular puking) is making me feel very attractive! Have just found out we are having a boy.

redwellybluewelly Sun 06-Jan-13 19:42:18

Our yoga yeacher always said that hairy = boy and less hairy/slower hair growth = girl. We did a straw poll and it seemd to work.

I have a feeling this bump is a boy, which I will confess I have mixed feelings about,. I'd have liked dd to have a sister and this is my last child. Ultimately though a healthy baby is the main aim! No one in my maternal line has had boys and on my husbands side its all boys.

Mawgatron Sun 06-Jan-13 19:57:16

Good evening all! I am new to this thread, so thought I would introduce myself. 17 weeks today, due on the 16th June. First baby, very excited! Next scan on 31st, and def want to find out sex if we can.

You lot are makin me feel like should be buying stuff, DH reckons don't start until April but now I feel like maybe that is a bad move? Been to have a look at prams, like the look of the urbo from mamas and papas but a bit worried about the size of the shopping basket- anyone tried one?

Dreading going back to work tomorrow, I'm an upper school teacher and have really been enjoying this break. Can't believe I have to go back tomorrow sad

maisiebeem Sun 06-Jan-13 20:01:07

I'm going to wait till probably February to start buying stuff I think, I partly don't know where to store it all until baby arrives. Planning on doing a lot of car boot sales to make space! I am such a hoarder, a habit that I need to break! X

dreamydays Sun 06-Jan-13 20:01:15

Like ella I'm not hairier (except hair on head growing more quickly) and am having a girl. So maybe there's something in the testosterone idea...

I have itchy back and a few spots for first time in many years, yuk blush

Sarah2506 Sun 06-Jan-13 20:12:32

I'm not hairy and I'm having a girl!

Redwelly you asked why I was having a section. I have chrons disease and had a perianal fistula operated on years ago. It left a lot of scar tissue about a cm from baby's exit point. This will not stretch it will just tear through which will leave me with two connected exit points and the need for a lot of surgery to repair it, which won't heal because my tissue is diseased and doesn't heal. Sorry if TMI!

MrsBri I know there was some new guideline about sections being available on request but Barnet Hospital was quite clear they just wouldn't entertain it unless needed. Too many planned and needed and emergency sections for them to include those just on request. They said they would consider it for severe mental distress, but otherwise would need to be physically indicated. Have to say not sure I'd want this if there was an option. Recovery sounds pretty grim.

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 20:18:42

Mutley - you might want to try the pram shed section - there's lots of reviews on there.

Do you know what the winter weather is like where you're going? I wanted a proper pram top to mine I bought having DS as I was having a winter baby wanted to be able to snuggle him up, rahter than a seat that laid back but meant you couldn't put proper blankets in and fiddle with the straps etc. There was snow on the ground for the first 7-8 weeks of his life (oh I just remember skidding on the sheet ice in the Doctor's carpark going for our 6 week checks, you'd think they'd clear a GP practice carpark wouldn't you?) , but that's probably not going to be an issue even though you're having a winter baby afterall!

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 20:24:30

Re c sections, I think I'm going to go into my consultant appointment saying I want one, if they can talk me out of it with convincing promises it won't be so bad this time round, then ok, but I think I'll do some crying and make a fuss. Then I'm going to make the decision if I actually want one, I can't remember who said up thread about easier to go back to asking to do it naturally than c section than to go from planned natural to c section once the consultant appointment has been and gone, but it makes sense.

MrsBri - as awful as it sounds, if you want a c section, you need to make it clear now - a big fuss will be needed if you want a c section for non-medical reasons. (You might need a touch of the Am Drams)

cupcake78 Sun 06-Jan-13 20:30:20

I was a bit of a hairy Mary with ds! Dh convinced baby is a girl, I don't think it will be. I'm going for another boy.

Will monitor hair growth over coming weeksgrin

Mutley77 Sun 06-Jan-13 20:43:07

DontmindifIdo the winter weather sounds more like our summer (being a bit flippant but low temps are generally around 8 degrees and daytime will be low teens) - however I did really want a summer baby having had 2 winter ones myself!!! Ice won't be a contender but yes I do like them to be snuggled up and had the pramette for my older two although that seems really dated now!! The mountain buggy has a separate carrycot, as does the babystyle oyster. I think carrycots are also nice for summer (hopefully will be coming to us late Sept so baby will only be a couple of months by then) - as it means the baby can just lie free without sweaty straps etc.

My Consultant was brilliant with Number 2 - we had an hour "post-trauma" discussion one to one, relating to my previous EMCS birth. She then referred me to the consultant midwife for a review of my notes on first birth. I sort of wanted to try for a VBAC but my "sensible" head won out and I went for the ELCS. I have never heard of anyone being refused after a previous C/S because there are risks of a VBAC and therefore they wouldn't make you have one!

Once you are under Consultant care you can request to see your Consultant at any time - and in fact will probably have regular appointments in their clinic anyway, so easy to review your decision.

MrsBri Sun 06-Jan-13 20:46:30

The thing is, Dontmind, I don't know what I want. If I could guarantee a non-traumatic vaginal birth, I'd take it. Sigh.

I'll mention it to the midwife and see if she can assist my nerves :-)

I love all this hairiness talk...couldn't do it in real life!

olimoss Sun 06-Jan-13 20:49:13

Mutley77 I'm an Aussie - whereabouts you moving to? I'm jealous, wish I could have my baby back there, hospitals and care are of such a good standard.....

Mutley77 Sun 06-Jan-13 20:59:16

Olimoss We are moving to Perth although DH is from Melbourne (and I am British) so it is all new to us.....! I am not sure I will be getting great care as going to be on medicare so no nice private hospitals or choosing my obstetrician...... From the sounds of it I am expecting it to be fairly similar to NHS though.

olimoss Sun 06-Jan-13 21:06:01

Ah Perth is my hometown, do you know which area you're going to live/hospital? Winter there is very mild, and very sunny...

Mutley77 Sun 06-Jan-13 21:14:13

Nope - no ideas as yet - any recommendations gratefully received! We will be in some kind of serviced apartment to start with, not sure where. We are then looking at areas to live in but I think I would rather be there and get a bit of a feel for it before we decide.... We were set on south of the city to start with but then realised the commute to the city for DH would be potentially harder, and access to the beach not so easy. There seem to be loads of hospitals and I guess I will have to opt for one and maybe change if it is too far from where we are living! Again any recommendations?

olimoss Sun 06-Jan-13 21:16:48

Yes, plenty! Where will your partner be working, geography-wise? I'm not v Mumsnet-savvy, if there's a PM function feel free to message me that way...

AmIGoingMad Sun 06-Jan-13 21:30:34

Mawgatron- welcome! I'm a secondary teacher and go bk tomrw too. Been off with AND and anxiety since end nov so am having that Sunday night feeling combined with big nerves!

Mutley- under consultant after a few issues last time around (GBS, tough labour, need for transfusion etc). So a few issues to discuss and to be reassured on. I'm really torn ( pardon the pun!) as to whether to try to insist on cs or whether to try and hope that this time around will be better. Just want to say to all you lovely first timers that nearly all of my friend had really good births first time and some second time already. It's not all awful like some of our posts suggest sometimes. There really are straightforward vaginal births and that's why I'm so undecided. Think I might take don'tmind's approach as it seems to make a lot of sense.

Sarah- congratulations!

Redwelly- hope you're managing to get some rest now.

Right- off to sleep now!
Enjoy appt tomrw mrsbri!smile

Mutley77 Sun 06-Jan-13 21:35:39

Olimoss - have sent you a PM - there is an inbox icon next to the login one at the top so hopefully you will find it there!
Thanks so much.

olimoss Sun 06-Jan-13 21:37:05

Mutley - aces, thanks - will sort a proper reply tomorrow.....bedtime for me now!

Mutley77 Sun 06-Jan-13 21:38:00

AmIGoingMad - hope your Consultant is helpful - is v difficult to know how to pitch it when you don't know what line they take. Personally I would make sure you are seeing the consultant, not just a member of the team, as he/she is the expert and has the final say. Also, worth asking around locally to see if anyone had the same Consultant to gauge what view he/she might take. Good luck....

pinkapples Mon 07-Jan-13 06:59:49

On the subject of the urbo that's the one I think we'll go with grin

forgetmenots Mon 07-Jan-13 07:09:22

I was going to go for the urbo too,but read a lot of bad reviews (about the wheel?) - it may be resolved though but have a google before you buy! I ended up going for the Zoom (similar spec, amazing sale price, couldn't find anything bad online except for generic complaints about M&P).

MrsBri Mon 07-Jan-13 07:14:54

Morning :-)

My MS is determined to hang around...feel awful today. Not helped by having to get up just before 6 to go to work. I've only had 6 days off, but it feels like loads more, weirdly!

At least I'm leaving early to go to my MW appt later and working from home afterwards.

How is everyone else faring?

suzyrut Mon 07-Jan-13 09:13:57

Morning all, thought I'd been really busy over Christmas until I've see how much I've missed out on.

Not glad to be back at work today as my body clock seems to have adjusted to waking up way later than 6.30!

Hope everyone's doing ok xx

olimoss Mon 07-Jan-13 10:27:19

Bloody well first day back at work for a month and I'm all cold and sweary and can't remember my computer login and complain-moan-mutter.

Other than that I'm fine, although the commute of walk-bus-overground-train-walk is worse than I recall.

I know I'd be bored in about 5 mins if I wasn't at work, but at the moment it's looking like a great idea to loaf around on the sofa. I have to go see my personal trainer on Thursday, after a break of 2 months. That'll suck.

SunnyL Mon 07-Jan-13 11:20:12

Personal trainer? I think a personal trainer would take one look at me and laugh their ass behind off. Back at zumba tomorrow and will have to tell my instructor I'm pregnant. She's so loud the entire town will know by the end of that class!

olimoss Mon 07-Jan-13 11:35:18

I have been seeing him for over a year now, but had to give up at about 7 weeks pregnant as the risk of hurling on the gym floor got too high! So haven't done any swimming or other exercise since then. I expect it to hurt, but determined not to sloth around too much before new human arrives as I plan to totally sloth around for a good while after they do...

massagegirl Mon 07-Jan-13 12:11:59

Half way through first day back at work..... Knackered!!!! Looking forward to bed time xxx

massagegirl Mon 07-Jan-13 12:45:27

see I'm so tired I put kisses like it was a text to my OH!

Sarah2506 Mon 07-Jan-13 13:41:57

I am starting pregnancy bikram yoga today. Has anyone else heard of Bikram? Its the yoga you do in a room heated to forty degrees. Understandably thats out while pregnant and I have really missed it. They do a pregnancy version in a warm room and I've been looking forward to going so much, and now I'm enough weeks in to be allowed. I'm really excited!!

I'm so glad I'm off this wk too I've been sick all morning :-(
Wish we had classes like that near me, don't even have aquanatal that I can go to not that I'm up to it right now

redwellybluewelly Mon 07-Jan-13 14:33:49

have fun sarah I'm starting yoga again the day after my 20week scan after which we will tell people.

Right ladies - serious stuff here - PELVIC FLOOR EXERCISES. Yes - I'll just repeat that again PELVIC FLOOR EXERCISES

Suffice to say mine were bloody perfect before I got a little cold and started sneezing and well, blush I need to improve them. Can't google as at work but does anyone know if you can improve them during pregnancy?!?!? Praying it is possible

MrsBri Mon 07-Jan-13 16:06:00

Hi Redwelly, I've been told to do the exercises so I assume you can improve them :-) Bloody hope so, anyway. Really must do some.

Let us know how the yoga goes, Sarah. I've got my first aquanatal on Wednesday. Looking forward to it.

Heard bubs' heartbeat at my MW appt, so utterly lovely. Nice and strong :-) Just held it together!

Said I had birth fears and was told to go to antenatal and aquanatal and make sure I'm informed. Said majority of births are fine!

SunnyL Mon 07-Jan-13 16:28:48

I've got a reminder on my phone to do pelvic floor exercises at 12 noon every day. This seems to coincide with my lunch time wee. Whoever sits next to me in the cubicle must think I'm mighty weird with the pee - stop - pee - stop nonsense I'm doing.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 07-Jan-13 17:18:00

bri yay!!! I've just heard my baby's too!! Starting to sink in now!!

Just been told I'm A- blood type so have to have an anti D injection, anyone else?

AmIGoingMad Mon 07-Jan-13 17:36:23

Yet on hearing heartbeats! So exciting! smile
I've been bk to work today after 6 wks away with AND- was crying to boss within half hr of being there! Aargh bloody hormones! Did manage to stay there all day though on restricted duties and only burst into tears once more in the day. Madness! I even feel semi normal in my home life now- surely work life will catch up soon ( she says hopefully!).
I need to sort those pelvic floor exercises too- sneezing/ being sick are embarrassing moments right now! Be careful though as I'm pretty sure I read that you shouldn't do them while peeing as can lead to urine infections? Not certain but might be worth checking out?

AmIGoingMad Mon 07-Jan-13 17:36:45

Yey not yet!

Mawgatron Mon 07-Jan-13 18:23:43

I also have an app that reminds me to do pelvic floors. Still rubbish at doing them though sad
First day back at work was ok, although was very easily irritated by one colleague, and managed to snap at her. In my defence, she was being REALLY ANNOYING, but I'm pretty sure hormones are partially responsible.
I'm assuming that I should be having another midwife appointment at some point soon - should that be before my 20 week scan? Bump is all firm today, starting to feel real, rather than just too many mince pies...

maisiebeem Mon 07-Jan-13 18:40:00

I went back to work today too - straight into the staff room and hands all over my stomach! GRRRR! "ooo havent you grown....ooo you must have eaten well! etc"
some people i dont mind touching my bump - but only people i like! i may try the idea of touching the other persons stomach - see how they like it!

Maw you should have midwife around 16 wks then 25 wks if first child according to nice guidance
i am yeah in sure your right you should do pelvic floor exercises while actually going for a pee

Mawgatron Mon 07-Jan-13 21:20:01

Ha ha, I had people staring at my stomach the second they saw me. It's like they were talking to it rather than me!
Had a text from the student midwife today and she said the same about the appointments so I will ring my gp tomorrow and book one. Keep talking about pelvics, I'm treating it like a drinking game. Each time I read it, I'm doing them...

pinkapples Tue 08-Jan-13 06:25:47

Having some serious sleeping issues these days cannot get comfortable is it that bump is getting bigger anyone else having like a stretching pain when they lie down to sleep all across the front of my tummy?

MrsBri Tue 08-Jan-13 06:29:59

No stretching pain, but bump is getting uncomfortable, yes. Need a pillow soon, I think.

And turning over is like turning an oil tanker: slow and cumbersome! :-/

Mawgatron Tue 08-Jan-13 06:44:16

Bought a sleeping pillow from John Lewis- the long one that you can bend, not a dream genie as I read bad things about it. I love it, although poor DH has convinced himself that I am trying to wall him off in bed...

MrsBri Tue 08-Jan-13 07:03:03

Awww...poor DH!

Apparently I regularly head over to DH's side in my sleep and tell him to get out so I can have his side. Oops.

I also keep him awake talking utter nonsense :-)

They get a bad deal sometimes, don't they?!

Oh, I'm wearing a new black velvet maternity skirt from Next today. It has to be one of the most comfy things I've ever worn.

Also, I've found that now I'm in a much bigger maternity bra, my boobs are taking it as a message to grow and grow and grow. God knows where they will end up!

Hawkmoth Tue 08-Jan-13 08:44:58

I'm A- as well. Top tip, make them give you the Anti-D in your backside. Last time they insisted it was 'better' in my arm.... It was a lie. It's a big needle and hurts for a good while afterwards, not as bad if it's at the side of your buttock.

Oh and when do we stop throwing up again? Can someone remind me of the date? I'm fed up of retching in the shower, it's starting to scare the children!

I'm not sure hawk. When you find out please let me know!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 08-Jan-13 10:35:59

Hawk midwife said yesterday that its an in your leg jobby!!

My sickness is dying down, at least the actual vomiting has stopped 16+4 but still feel crap!!!

learnermummy Tue 08-Jan-13 16:22:50

Hello everyone. I'm expecting No. 3 19/6. Bit of a surprise but I'm coming around to the idea now smile
Have seen people talking about pelvic floor exercise reminder apps - any recommendations? Cannot remember to do the damn things!

Mawgatron Tue 08-Jan-13 16:36:43

My app is called kegel trainer- pelvic floor exercises. Does the job- you set reminders and it pops up and tells you to do them. Think you can set up to 6 reminders per day, but I only have 3 going at the mo.
Feel bad- haven't really had any sickness, but feel like I am retching constantly. Particularly after I have eaten anything.
Will go and have a look for that skirt, sounds good.

MrsBri Tue 08-Jan-13 18:02:10

I'm the same, sparkle...still got nausea, but not thrown up since Friday, I think :-)

The midwife said it should die off soon, thank god.

Been told I'm glowing by 2 people today. Interesting, as I feel quite non-glowy!

MrsBri Tue 08-Jan-13 18:03:46

And I'll get my blood type at the hospital after my 20 week scan. Interested to know what it is, actually.

dreamydays Tue 08-Jan-13 19:53:22

Just out of interest, has anyone who already has one/more children found that pelvic floor exercises actually work?

AmIGoingMad Tue 08-Jan-13 19:53:28

Welcome learner smile

I'm the same with the nausea- currently sucking on a mint to hopefully ease it. Haven't been sick since sun so it has really eased but I'm still fed up with the feeling sick thing!
I think I have a bump now (16 wks today) but still not certain it's not just m excess weight from last time around not being sucked in now!!!grin

AmIGoingMad Tue 08-Jan-13 19:55:45

Well I did do them last time around but not religiously and let's just say that I really wish I had! The lack of control sometimes when sneezing/ throwing up is not good! Need to set aside a time to do them really as I haven't been great this time either

learnermummy Tue 08-Jan-13 20:36:21

I did do them last time, only when I remembered though, certainly not religiously. I've never had any problems except once on a trampoline blush.

I'm O- and have had plenty of anti-D in my time. Bit of a pain, especially this time as if I manage my homebirth they won't come out to give the anti-D and I'll have to go in within 72 hrs of the birth to get it!

Sunbeam18 Tue 08-Jan-13 21:58:07

Went to my first Yoga in Pregnancy class at a lovely pregnancy and parenting centre tonight. Really nice - small group of 8 and tea and biscuits at the end! And someone came in with their newborn at the end and told us about her very positive water birth experience! A good night!

grainmum Tue 08-Jan-13 22:35:24

That's lovely sunbeam I have mine on Saturday really looking forward to it.

forgetmenots Tue 08-Jan-13 22:41:51

Is anyone else feeling kicks? I'm on one hand pleased and excited but on another hand terrified because it's so early (17+5) and my first... Not at all neurotic, of course! Can it be anything else? Proper jabs to the tummy!

redwellybluewelly Tue 08-Jan-13 22:49:31

I was feeling kicks but nothing for a few days now. Desperate to do some exercise and texting my old yoga teacher tomorrow to see if she'll let me start her classes next week.

I've decided I'm teling work on the 28th Jan. Gives me almost three weeks to figure out how and what to say.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 08-Jan-13 23:03:04

red can't believe you've held off telling work this long, are you not showing? If I'd not told work before Christmas they'd definitely know by now!!

Sunbeam18 Tue 08-Jan-13 23:12:17

Me too! I told work at 13 weeks and people had already guessed!

pinkapples Wed 09-Jan-13 06:26:54

Aqua-natal classes booked start on Sunday which should be good :-) had a relatively calm night which is good and managed to sleep grin even after a visit from ofsted at lunchtime yesterday hay ho all in a days work :-)

pinkapples Wed 09-Jan-13 06:27:48

Still not feeling much 18+1 today but anterior placenta at what point am I supposed to get worried so jealous of you all getting kicks and flutters

MrsBri Wed 09-Jan-13 07:11:03

The sensations I get come and go. No real kicks yet, but lots of fizzing and buzzing! It's probably too early to feel much more, though I think it won't be long, baring in mind what I can feel now.

How you've lasted this long without telling work is amazing, Redwelly. But why the apprehension?

Question for you lovely ladies...the midwife thinks I should stick to 24th as my due date, even though the scan moved it to 20th, so I don't get induced. I'd rather have the earlier date and give birth sooner rather than later. What do you all think. Has anybody been induced? Is it bad? And a sweep?

Need to consider my options!

Sunbeam18 Wed 09-Jan-13 08:36:40

MrsBri, I think that here we are told our due date based on the scan-don't think we have ability to change it. I don't think i would have a huge issue with being induced - means the whole thing is hopefully over more quickly! X

Sunbeam18 Wed 09-Jan-13 08:48:43

How are you all doing your pram research? Any websites/threads you can recommend? Thinking I better start on that soon!

olimoss Wed 09-Jan-13 09:07:54

Hi Sunbeam - we've started cause we've our 20 weeks can and appt with Consultant coming up this Tues, and feel like we should get some of the big stuff sorted after that (without going overboard....).

Which is a helpful site, for sure. So far I think iCandy is top of our shortlist, mostly to do with personal recommendations from other people. One thing def learnt is not to get hung up on what they need as newborns, as long as you can lay them flat, because all that stuff is only for the first 6 months or so.

Lots of them are quite wide, so if you need to use buses or trains I'd check about that. And other thing we've learnt is to avoid those with tiny wheels - get one with at least two larger wheels at back (usually) as minimum.

Withalittlesparkle Wed 09-Jan-13 09:10:29

Bri I know a couple of people who have been induced and it can be a rather drawn at process, it can also be rather invasive, with them manually breaking your waters etc. Also I think sweeps can be really uncomfortable. As its only 4 days I'd go with the later date, but I guess its a personal thing.

Im rather lucky that my dates by lmp give me an EDD of 22nd June, with my scan giving me a date of 21st June!!

Sun I spent ages looking at the big websites, mothercare, babies r us, kiddicare, kiddisave etc to get an idea of what I wanted, then when I saw a buggy I liked I just googled reviews for that buggy, we've popped to some of the stores as well to actually get a feel for each buggy, feel how heavy it is, see how long the wheel base is (a decent sized wheel base is better for getting on and off buses) and we've decided on the Mothercare Orb, I like the size, the fact it has extendable handles (husband v.tall) and that the seat unit converts into the carrycot!!!

redwellybluewelly Wed 09-Jan-13 09:25:38

Induction if the body isn't ready can lead to further interventions, I'd read quite carefully around the subject, NCT classes will talk about the cascade of intervention - and my consultant has also backed that up. An induced labour can often be faster into the more hard core contractions without leading up to them but it does also depend on fitness, circumstances and why you are being induced. Some hospitals (but not all) will require constant monitoring if you have been induced which means flat on bed (think pushing uphill not with gravity) and no water birth. Although my first labour was induced and was fast and hard it wasn't hugely painful and manageable but i had been in very slow labour for about 6 hours prior to ARM and I was extremely fit. Not so this time

I won't be induced again but I know many who have been and been ok albeit few who have been able to have the more natural birth.

I'm not really showing, I have spread a bit so I look like I ate too much over Christmas and the last week I can tell in the morning where bump is. Rock hard above my pubic bone and then a bit of flubber covering the top of the uterus. I've not told anyone let alone work (obviously told DH!) because my first pregnancy ended in such terrible circumstances and I'm not dealing emotionally or physically with this pg very well - easier to keep quiet. Also I'm a FT PhD student in my final year, about to do a huge data collection exercise - supervisory team is made up of hard core academics and having a baby partway through phd is considered pretty bad form lol.

redwellybluewelly Wed 09-Jan-13 09:27:24

Re prams, don't forget about whether they will fit in your car, order in plenty of time (most shops will hold onto them for you) and read read read reviews.

We have an iCandy and I like it still, but at 2.5 DD is getting a bit big for it even though its meant to last until 4yrs, I wanted a mountain buggy and still do!

suzyrut Wed 09-Jan-13 09:46:54

Hi MrsBri I had to be induced with both my previous children not for overdue reasons but more medical. I had sweeps, pessaries and finally the drip both times, sadly the less intrusive methods of inductions don't always work!

What I would say is that you're after a natural birth by the time they put you on a drip you can pretty much forget about it as you're constantly strapped to a monitor. Also the drip starts very strong, painful contractions immediately and so I ended up with an epidural both times and was completely necessary for me.

Sorry this is sounding like a scare story, it isn't meant to but I have to be honest and say I wasn't hung up at all about giving birth without pain relief, the care I had in labour was brilliant both times and I look back at them both as wonderful births! (I did deliver both naturally on my back without assistance so it is totally possible)

Re prams - I had a quinny pushchair with my daughter and it was excellent so am looking at the Moodd (despite the dreadful name). xx

Sams4lo Wed 09-Jan-13 10:25:24

To be honest there are so many horror stories about inductions, with my first I was too scared to read any lol and am glad I didn't! My experience in a word after 3 inductions is 'rapid' smile

We have a phil and teds which we used for dc2,3,4 and this one will be in it as well, that's if we can ever get our 5yr old out of it lol!

Sarah2506 Wed 09-Jan-13 10:56:05

We've been looking at City Joggers. This seems to suit my requirements - light weight, good off road, easy up and down - pretty well. I've been put off ICandys a fair bit by people telling me its style over substance - certainly the ones I have looked at are SO pretty! I drive a Beetle which I am very attached to and the guy in John Lewis did say that the sort of girl who would buy a Beetle over a Golf or Polo is the sort of girl who would buy an Icandy - which I took to mean that a beetle is just about the styling and is just an expensive Golf!

My big stress for today is nursery!! There are two local ones and one has an outstanding Ofsted report and the other only satisfactory. The former has an eighteen month list and I'm now on it, which is crazy!! And I am now worrying about what happens if its full! I do find all these decisions we are meant to make very overwhelming. I sat down with a calculator the other day to face up to the reality of part time work plus nursery fees and I just have no idea quite how its going to work - ok for one but certainly not for two!

Off on our last big exotic holiday on Friday. Probably our last holiday FOREVER the way finances are looking!

Sunbeam18 Wed 09-Jan-13 10:56:28

Thanks for good pram tips. I see I was totally misinformed about induction when I posted before so good to have all the info on this. I hadn't realised.

SunnyL Wed 09-Jan-13 11:53:56

A couple of thoughts on inducement.

My sister's third child was induced. She was given the pessary and sent home. Had to turn the car around 15 minutes into their journey. Baby delivered very quickly with minimal fuss. She was home in time for tea.

Sister in law refused to be induced even at 14 days. She went into labour naturally at 16 days overdue. Things went quite badly for her and she ended up with an emergency caesarean and quite frankly were lucky baby and her were alright at the end. She was a high risk pregnancy (48 years old and various medical issues) but was insisting on doing things naturally - consultant had recommended an elective caesarean. Now she says she'd have listened to the consultant more and not relied on google to tell her how to bring her most precious bundle into the world.

learnermummy Wed 09-Jan-13 12:03:01

Sarah2506 make sure you and your OH look into claiming childcare vouchers as part of a salary sacrifice scheme - really helps save on nursery fees. Your OH could even start claiming them now.

DontmindifIdo Wed 09-Jan-13 12:14:26

I got an iCandy Cherry with DS (now 3) and used it to walk a lot (most days 4+ miles) - and it's fine for this DC, so I would say worth the money.

Having had a cheaper umbella fold (as when he started nursery I could only leave a buggy if it could fold in one piece and the buggy store wasn't all that secure so I wanted something I wouldn't cry too much if it was stolen/damaged), I would say manoverability is very important once they get past the age of 1 and are heavy (and if you have hills near you!). Plus I hated him being forward facing (I missed our chats on our 45 minute walks into town, not knowing if he was ok, awake or asleep etc - you really do interact less with them when they are forward to rear facing, if you are only going to walk for a short time, not an issue).

Everyone said once I got the umbrella fold one that I wouldn't use the big buggy anymore, but I found if you've got a sensible practical buggy in the first place that's easy to push and rear facing, the slighter greater speed for folding/unfold and slightly lighter for lifting in and out of the car frame isn't that great.

Most places (I know John Lewis will) will bring a test frame out to your car and let you see if you can get it in the boot - those big wheels are a bad idea if you don't have a good sized boot, and check out the width of doors etc you might want to go through, the Cherry does fit though the barriers at the trainstation and most doorways, I know my friend bought the apple and that is slightly too big so she's aways got to open double doors of shops...

And really think about how you will use it, most friends have worked their way through 3 or 4 buggies by now (we all have 3 year olds!) - I'm usual in having just the original one and then an umbrella one I don't actually use much.

oh, and check out the after care of where you buy from, John Lewis if your buggy brakes will give you a "loan buggy" while yours is being fixed. I think some other big suppliers do the same, but if you get from elsewhere, worth having a sling or something in case your buggy is out of action for a week...

DontmindifIdo Wed 09-Jan-13 12:16:35

oh and a lot that are rear facing from newborn can only be forward from 6 months, and that's when you really need to be able to chat to them!

redwellybluewelly Wed 09-Jan-13 12:18:50

I have to say I still have DD (2.5) rear facing much of the time

I'm also extremely unusual in having just the original pram/buggy we bought when i was expecting DD. We also have an umbrella fold buggy for travelling on holiday

DontmindifIdo Wed 09-Jan-13 12:27:16

Sarah - re nurseries, not all waiting lists are the same! So for DS's nursery, I put his name down when he was 3 months old (in March) for a place in the baby room from January the following year, I was told I was 20th on the waiting list and unlikely to get a place.

Panicking slightly in October when I was trying to plan return to work, I asked again and got chatting to the nursery manager's assistant about how the places are allocated, they have a set number of places for ratios and the start of each month, if they have a place, they look at the list of who wants a place for that month then allocate to them, regardless if the people on the following month's list have been there longer. (because they don't really care who fills the spaces, and leaving a space empty for a month or 2 just because someone wants a place in January asked first if they've got someone who turned up in November who wants a space and they've got one now, they might as well get 2 months more money).

I discovered that the December list was empty (who goes back to work in December? you wait until the new year!) so I put my DS on the November and December lists, paid for a week in November he didn't go and paid for december 2 days a week - oh yes, if you are there already parttime, you have first refusal on any additional days that come available (so I could take DS up to 3 days) again above anyone who'd been on the waiting list longer for those days but whos DCs aren't already there.

There's lot of demand for nusery places in September, January and after Easter (as people try to get those holidays out of the way before returning to work), if you can go back just before (or pay for a place you don't use!) you might be able to jump the queue.

redwellybluewelly Wed 09-Jan-13 13:05:35

Have you visited the nurseries? Ours was 'good' but areas to improve but we took a leap of faith and its now outstanding.

Wow I've missed loads!
Saw midwife this morning and heard hb which was amazing! I wasn't expecting to as not guaranteed at 17 wks and with anterior placenta but she found it very easily. Then DH and I have been to a pram shop seen as I've not been sick today hurrah! We have decided on iCandy peach. Just got to pick the car seat I was going to go for maxi cosi pebble but she showed us the Be safe iZi Go which looks good as has 5 point harness. Decisions decisions! Also went to M+Ps and think we have picked our cot, but its getting discontinued so we need to decide for sure and order if its the one we want!
Also picked up my bounty pack which has a good little booklet in called a product guide so going to read through that later so I know what I should be looking for in everything we need to buy!

redwellybluewelly Wed 09-Jan-13 13:52:14

Lovely hearing the heartbeat isn't it? I'm debating getting a doppler.

everything we need to buy do beware that some things (like baby wipe warmers) are completely necessary. I loathe the Bounty packs, there is a petition at the moment to give the option of 'mama packs' which are a lot more interesting and less mainstream.

Also - has anyone got a baby monitor for two babies? We want to try and get a split screen one

I thought of a Doppler but not sure if it would make me more paranoid.
I gave bounty an email address I only use for junk!

pinkapples Wed 09-Jan-13 14:41:15

Just missed my appointment for flu jab and been on hold for AGES trying to apologise and rebook if they can't be bothered to pick up the phone what am I meant to do!

I thought about a Doppler but what happens of you can't find the hb how anxious would you be? Majorly!

redwellybluewelly Wed 09-Jan-13 14:56:22

that should of course read unnecessary

BumbleBee2011 Wed 09-Jan-13 17:27:19

Hello, I'm a bit late to the party but would like to join please - due 23/06/13 with DC2.

Haven't read through all the thread yet - but littlemiss I have the iCandy peach and used the pebble for DD, can recommend both smile

Saw the MW on Tuesday, she thinks my placenta is anterior, she had to go round the side to get the heartbeat!

I mentioned to her that I think I'm getting BH contractions already, she looked really surprised...I've looked online today though and it seems a lot of second time mums get them early...is anyone else? Or am I a weirdo?

Starting a yoga class tonight, looking forward to meeting other pg ladies in my area.

AmIGoingMad Wed 09-Jan-13 17:47:14

Wow- one early night and look what I miss!!!
Congratulations on heartbeat hearing! Bet it was such a lovely experience!

Re prams- we have the icandy apple and I love it! The wheel base is large but I could get it in my fiesta boot- had to take one rear wheel off but that's incredibly easy to do. One problem is that we have had to replace the inner tube on one tyre once but that was after over a yr and lots of countryside walking.

Dontmind- that's a very good plan with nnurseries! We've been lucky this time with family care but haven't had discussion if that will be possible next time around.

As for being induced- I was just before due date last time due to medical reasons. It was intense and frustrating not to be able to move around but then I couldn't have after epidural anyway ( have heard of walking epidural but wasn't available here- anyone else had it?). It was a tough labour but then as it was before due date I'm convinced that DS wasn't ready to come out anyway! Feel like this time around I don't really know what to expect about onset of labour just like last time as it didn't happen naturally. That said I'm also going to be talking to consultant about elcs too so we'll see. It's probably different for everyone I'd imagine?

Also- do you think that the fact I've been off work with anxiety etc will actually go in my favour if I do decide I want a cs? It was a rubbish time so if I could get some benefit from it that would be nice!

Well done those of you exercising- I must do something soon!!!

Also- posted in pregnancy last night about being massively thirsty in the nights before going to bed. Any of you having this?

Congrats Bumblebee!
Thank you for recommendation that's good to know. Enjoy your yoga class, I'm still looking for something in my area for when the sickness stops

AmIGoingMad Wed 09-Jan-13 17:48:02

Welcome bumble bee! smile

MrsBri Wed 09-Jan-13 17:58:48

Hi Bumblebee :-)

AmI, I'd have thought the anxiety would play a part in their decision. When are you seeing the MW next?

In relation to dates, I'd rather keep the earlier one, else I should probably work an extra week and I don't really want to!

Induction doesn't sound horrendous. I'll see what date the next scan gives me and go from there, I think.

First aquanatal class tonight. Should be interesting. Will be good to meet other preggos from my area! :-)

Mawgatron Wed 09-Jan-13 19:05:43

I'm quite up for getting a Quinny but DH likes the look of the m and p urbo- anyone had any experience of these?

Hadn't have even thought about nurseries yet, taking a year off but didn't realise that I should be looking now! Should I be panicking?

dreamydays Wed 09-Jan-13 19:09:47

Hi Bumblebee. i also think I've been having BH contractions and have been worrying trying not to worry about it. I am 19 weeks today but have been having them for a bit. I'm due to have my 20 week scan next Fri so will ask about it then. Reassuring to hear I'm not the only one! I'm also getting lots of kicks which is reassuring.

Would like to start yoga, found a class starting on Sat, but I still don't have my amnio results (after 3 weeks!) and am putting off any commitments til I do...

Hawkmoth Wed 09-Jan-13 21:08:02

I've been having BH as well, stronger than with the first two. Grr. Bloody irritating.

Done a bad thing and stole a comfy chair from one of the directors. Bless him, he never said anything today. I will put it back next time he comes in. Thankfully only one day a week and my back is crippling me! Had a lot of problems with SPD and SI joints previously. So far nowhere near as bad but the last couple of days they've started, and I'm worrying so the stress probably makes it worse. I can't face months off work resting, it would do me in as I love my job, going to dig out my girdle...

Sunbeam18 Wed 09-Jan-13 22:08:41

AmI, I'm with you on the thirst, especially after a bath. Extreme thirst was my first pregnancy symptom and it's never stopped. Think it's normal as we are producing so much more blood in our bodies when pregnant.

Got my midwife appt tmrw and should be able to hear heartbeat! Did anyone take their partner with them to this appt? Mine would love to hear the baby's heart.

Sunbeam DH came with me so go for it. Good luck! smile

MoottonBun Wed 09-Jan-13 23:33:20

Just saying hi to mark my place on this thread. Am glad yoga's been mentioned, has just reminded me I must look into it locally.

pinkapples Thu 10-Jan-13 00:19:49

Waking up 3 hours after going to bed to be sick is so not funny!

MrsBri Thu 10-Jan-13 07:31:28

Poor you, pinkapples :-/

I was surprised by being sick while brushing my teeth today. Thought I was over that.

Baby didn't make 'himself' as known yesterday...when are we meant to feel movement every day?

Woke up to DH resting his hands on my little bump so cute!!
He said I had both my hands on it all night he couldn't get near!
DH is defiantly showing more interest since hearing hb yesterday, he even came home and put the due date on the calendar. I haven't had the heart to tell him the chance of it happening on 19th is very slim bit we never know!

forgetmenots Thu 10-Jan-13 08:02:07

Keen to know that too mrsbri, some days there's fluttering, there have been a few days with jabs and some days almost nothing - consoling myself at the moment that I hadn't expected to feel movement at all by now. A wee flutter every day would be nice!

Also got a dead thigh so I'm wondering if baby is lying on some nerves. Finding sleep really difficult.

redwellybluewelly Thu 10-Jan-13 08:59:11

I went to bed at 7.30pm last night after settling DD in, woke up at 12.30 when DH came to bed then fell asleep till 5 when DD woke up - then gazed at the ceiling while she babbled on about something, then we both fell asleep together until 7. And my word I feel better for it this morning.

I have had some days with movement and some days without - none yesterday until cooking dinner and when my DH got home and said hello to me there was a massive kick inside. DD used to do that too.

MrsBri I have also been sick while brushing my teeth this morning hmm wasn't sick yesterday so thought it was stopping!

AmIGoingMad Thu 10-Jan-13 09:54:57

Sunbeam- enjoy hearing heartbeat today!
Pinkapples- poor you! Sounds like you've had very little let up. Hugs!
I'm with you on the teeth cleaning thing- it's hard work isn't it?! I must admit that the second I start wretching I stop and just use mouth wash. My teeth are being cleaned but probably not to my usual standard. Mouthwash is my friend at the moment! smile

AmIGoingMad Thu 10-Jan-13 09:58:17

Good to hear you had a good sleep redwelly. It really makes a difference doesn't it. It's my day off today and DH got up with DS so that I could have a mini lie in til he started work as he's working from home today. He is such a star!!!

SunnyL Thu 10-Jan-13 10:12:15

Cycled to work today for the first time in ages. Cycling when pregnant is weird - FACT! Could feel my bump moving around as my legs went up and down. Wonder what babs thought?

19 weeks today and still don't think I've felt any movement. MW appt tomorrow though so hopefully I'll hear the heartbeat like so many of you have.

redwellybluewelly Thu 10-Jan-13 10:29:29

AmI - yes - sleep (and caffeine) but most of our issues are due to DD not sleeping so we all wake up all night long. DH reckons he is ill as well (a very minor sniffle) and so he is being miserable and grumpy.

Sunny - cycling is weird when pg I agree! I've now reached the point where I can't cross my legs, this baby seems to be sitting very low, much lower than DD did.

Sarah2506 Thu 10-Jan-13 10:31:28

Sunny - How far did you cycle? I used to cycle the whole way to work - 12 miles - but in the winter I train to Kings X and then Boris Bike to work from there - 2.5 miles. I am forever being told off by people for even doing that, though these are the same people who tell me off for going to the gym, or running, or lifting anything. When people see me cycling with my Baby on Board badge they give me odd looks. Is it that strange? I was planning on cycling for a bit longer, until I decide I don't want to rather than let others decide for me!

Sarah- cycling, gym, running! Where do you get the energy?! Granted the sickness isn't helping me but I can't seem to get off the sofa at the minute I have zero energy

SunnyL Thu 10-Jan-13 11:04:42

I used to cycle 9 miles which in Edinburgh was practically all uphill. I've moved recently so my cycle is now a very sedate 2 miles and most of the time I walk it since I feel I get more fitness benefit from walking than from cycling.

I've been told I should stop cycling at 6 months since your centre of gravity changes and there is more chance of you falling off. Still allowed to use the bikes at the gym though after that.

So far no one has had a go at me for cycling but now my route is very rural and very safe. I think if I was still doing my old route which was right through the centre of the city I'd probably have had a lot of telling off by now.

Incidentally my zumba instructor had kittens on Tues night when i told her I was pregnant as She's not had any training in what to do with pregnant ladies. She calmed down immensely though when I said I was 19 weeks and the midwife said it was fine.

AmIGoingMad Thu 10-Jan-13 11:16:33

You exercising ladies are putting me to shame! It's something I really want to get bk into but as I haven't been great at exercising consistently since DS I'm not sure where to start safely. We do go on nice long walks- when the weathers a bit better than this! I have a davina pregnancy DVD from last time and some antenatal yoga ones- which I didn't use! Will also look into if there are any antenatal classes around locally although last time there was nothing around here grrr!

learnermummy Thu 10-Jan-13 13:05:19

I'm struggling with the exercise thing too. Have a couple of dvds here, but can't find any class particularly local to me. Would love to do yoga as it was great last pregnancy, but again nothing local here sad.

olimoss Thu 10-Jan-13 13:13:19

Survived first session back at the gym with my trainer. I can't believe it's me saying this, but I actually kind of enjoyed it....I don't know myself anymore! But it was definitely different kind of stuff than we did before I got pregnant, he's getting me to do lots of arm, back and hips stuff to strengthen for when it arrives, all the lifting, etc.

Swimming's next!

Obv I've just eaten a huge lunch to make up for all the effort.

monal Thu 10-Jan-13 15:17:32

I really feel like going swimming but the way I'm feeling right now I'm afraid I'll bob around like a beach ball grin

learnermummy Thu 10-Jan-13 15:56:15

My midwife told me no breaststroke if I go swimming (breaststroke legs are not good for preganancy apparently) and that kind of puts me off going. Don't have the energy for other strokes although suppose could use a float!

Could you do breast stroke arms but just kick your legs like front crawl?

learnermummy Thu 10-Jan-13 17:00:27

Will have to try that, but might mess with my head smile

ella0 Thu 10-Jan-13 17:01:11

MrsBri, our midwife said that from 25 weeks you should feel movements 10 times a day. Before that, and they're not concerned.

ella0 Thu 10-Jan-13 17:03:02

Also, I'm not feeling movement every day and I would be going insane if it weren't for the doppler we've got; it's very reassuring.

olimoss Thu 10-Jan-13 17:34:25

Re: swimming (as an ex-semi-proper swimmer), just do breaststroke style but flip overnon your back, instead, as it'll support your spine better and you can v much reduce the kicking arc. Or do backstroke.

Or just do,freestyle, v good for your lung function!

Not butterfly. It's a killer.

MrsBri Thu 10-Jan-13 18:05:09

Ah, ella, thank you...ages to go then til I have to be concerned! :-)

Didn't know that about swimming. Interesting. Breast is my favoured stroke (and DH's, fnar fnar!). May stick to the bouncing round at aquanatal.

My bump is trying to take over the world. I swear it increased at work today. And my lovely deep inny belly button is heading out :-(

I'll be utterly MAHOOSIVE very soon.

Have we got 20 week scans coming up soon? Very excited about people finding out the sex, even if I'm not!

forgetmenots Thu 10-Jan-13 18:39:39

Me too (excited about those finding out the sex!) partly because I'm enjoying guessing and I want to hear all their symptoms so I can play along...!

curlyclaz13 Thu 10-Jan-13 18:48:46

I thought I might try swimming but I can only do breaststroke so now I'm not sure.

redwellybluewelly Thu 10-Jan-13 19:13:23

Ive got my 20week scan on the 23rd when we find out the sex. You guys will be the only ones to know as we'll keep the gender secret from everyone else. My money is on BOY!

I swam three times a week until 36weeks last time when I switched to aquanatal. Really desperate to swim but as soon as anyone I know sees me in a swimsuit the secret will be out!

dreamydays Thu 10-Jan-13 19:36:44

I swam throughout my last pregnancy and mostly breaststroke - I had no idea it wasn't recommended. I was planning to do the same this time, as I reckon the exercise really helped me get through the birth etc.

Finally got my amnio results and all fine, so finally I can relax and start making plans! So relieved, v happy.

Sunbeam18 Thu 10-Jan-13 20:05:47

Wonderful news, dreamy! I heard my babys heartbeat today! Best sound ever. It sounded like dogs barking! Think it was about 150bpm. So excited - we recorded it and I've been playing it back all evening!

pinkapples Thu 10-Jan-13 20:27:50

My 20 week is on the 23rd too! So excited but also worried fingers crossed baby is still ok all I know is something's making me sick and sleep deprived and poor baby's not even here yet

Sams4lo Thu 10-Jan-13 20:28:56

All this talk of exercise is making me want to have another chocolate bar lol really wish I could exercise but having no energy and spd starting makes it all a bit more challenging! And I keep telling myself looking after four little ones is enough exercise for now lol wink
Got my 20 wk scan on Tuesday smile

pinkapples Thu 10-Jan-13 21:50:21

Omg sams so jealous of your scan so soon!

I'm starting on Sunday aqua natal yoga (I didn't know it was yoga) grin never done yoga before but will give it a go and let you know how it goes :-)

AmIGoingMad Thu 10-Jan-13 22:15:06

That's brilliant news dreamy! smile

And sunbeam that's fab! smile I also love the idea of recording heartbeat- think i might steal that one!

MrsBri Thu 10-Jan-13 22:26:42

Fantastic news Dreamy :-)

And I'm also jealous of scans so soon when mine is still about 3.5 weeks away. Boo!

I wanted to record the heartbeat, but was rushed onto the bed and didn't get a chance to grab my phone. Poor DH. :-(

AlohaMama Thu 10-Jan-13 23:23:20

Wow, I've only been offline a few days and so much to catch up on - prams, bikini waxes and allsorts!

Had no idea about breaststroke being bad? Last time I swam throughout and found crawl pulled at something in my pelvis, so slow breaststroke was all I could manage. This time I can't even work out when I can find the time to exercise. It's a nice idea but hard to make a reality!!

Had appointment this morning, heard heartbeat (phew), bloods taken for the chromasomal screening thing (results in 2 wks), and referral for ultrasound which should be in about 3 weeks. Can't wait to find out if we get to use our chosen girls name or whether we have to go through tough task of finding a boys name we like as much as ds.

MrsBri Fri 11-Jan-13 07:09:34

Thatl teach you for buggering off, Aloha! ;-p

I just felt my first real kicks!! Got a full on pounding just now. Think bubs may not like the tightness of my jeans! Hopefully my maternity ones will be in store to collect tomorrow so the complaining can stop :-) The kicking is amazing though!

massagegirl Fri 11-Jan-13 08:47:02

Proper kicks, that's so exciting! I'm still on flutters, bubbles and flips- dont know how else to describe it. My scan isn't until 22 weeks as with specialists due to problems at beginning. Long time to wait. Saw gp and they listened to hb, took an age to find again, naughty baby but then was nice a strong. Happy nearly weekend everyone!

suzyrut Fri 11-Jan-13 09:23:10

Congratulations dreamy am so pleased for you. What a great idea on the heatbeat recording as well, have my second scan next Thursday can't wait and will definitely give that a go!

SunnyL Fri 11-Jan-13 10:21:21

When, WHEN will they invent a sample bottle that a girl can wee into without dribbling all over her fingers??

I've been peeing into sample bottles for years due to having dodgy kidneys so if anyone can pee into these bottles without getting everywhere it should be me. And yet I've come to the conclusion its a flipping impossibility. I'm not even sure blokes can find it that easy?

Sorry minor gripe. Just heading off to my midwifes (or should that be midhusband?) appointment now.

LexiLexi Fri 11-Jan-13 10:32:02

Haven't been on here since just before Christmas - so much to catch up on!

First of all, congratulations dreamy know you've had a long wait for results, so pleased it's good news!

Anyone else not really done any shopping yet? We're trying to wait until after our 20 week scan on 25th Jan.

The only thing I've bought is a Bloomin' Marvellous tankini which I got in the sales as due to go to the Spa with my Mum. Also would like to start swimming or aqua natal in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the swimming tips, olimoss, backstroke is my favourite though I do feel ever so slightly antisocial so tend not to if the pool's busy.

MrsBri my lovely deep inny has become a flatty over the holidays and I'm convinced it's heading outwards soon...

massagegirl Fri 11-Jan-13 12:01:52

Lexi lexi... I have bought nothing apart from maternity jeans, they are sooo comfy!'
Great news dreamy, I know how stressful waiting for amnio results is. You must be so happy.

grainmum Fri 11-Jan-13 14:16:38

Hmm I didn't know about breast stroke either - shame becuase I much prefer it to crawl.

I was bending over to put on my tights today and had the first experience of my breasts resting on my bump! Wierd sensation. Also tights now falling down due to bump - time for some new ones.

AlohaMama Fri 11-Jan-13 16:41:42

Ah jealous of all those feeling the baby. I'm still only getting very occasional flutters. Last time I loved feeling ds moving all the time. It was so reassuring and such a nice feeling. Still waiting to get a nice bump too, currently just still a little pudgy.

forgetmenots Fri 11-Jan-13 16:50:59

Lexi our scans are on the same day smile I've bought a couple of wee babygros and my pram but only because it was in the sale!

DontmindifIdo Fri 11-Jan-13 17:48:11

obviously my "can't be bothered going for waxing as I know it will hurt and therefore using this as an excuse not to go swimming" plan has ended up working out for the best!

Getting lots of little kicks now. It's rather fantastic. Spent the afternoon at a birthday party where a lot of of the other mums have 2 DCs now. It looks terrifying! One told me the hardest bit she found was having to try to entertain a toddler while BFing number 2, that could mean a lot of peppa pig...

dreamydays Fri 11-Jan-13 18:45:35

Thanks for the congrats everyone! smile

Also getting lots of firm kicks, DH has even been able to feel them at times. And DD shouts into my belly button, probably frightens the life out of the little bean! smile

pinkapples Fri 11-Jan-13 19:58:42

Still no feelings for me either aloha so jealous of you all but anterior placenta as I said before and it is my 1st so I could be feeling the flutters and not know although I thought I would definitely know the difference never mind only a week and 4 days till my scan in 24th praying bean is still ok although I may have to start calling it something else as it is not a little bean anymore gringrin

SunnyL Sat 12-Jan-13 02:50:46

Ok silly time of night to be awake but my husband is on night shift so i'm having a nice textconversation with him about my first real flutters i think i'm having. He is clearly sitting next to a more experienced father at work or has really been reading the books because he's coming out with some real pearls of wisdom.

LexiLexi Sat 12-Jan-13 07:47:54

forgetmenots, so excited about seeing baby again and it's less than 2 weeks away for us! smile Still undecided whether to find out if we're having a boy or girl...

On the subject of prams, can anyone recommend a good off-roader? Where we live is rural and when baby's older we'd like to be able to take him/her through some hilly, sometimes muddy woodland tracks.

finally, congratulations Dontmind, dreamy and Sunny on feeling baby's kicks! I'm sure pinkapples and aloha won't have long to wait now...

curlyclaz13 Sat 12-Jan-13 09:25:34

I haven't felt anything yet either, don't know about the placenta as there is nothing in my notes, don't really look pregnant either ! (18+6) I know rationally this can be normal but I don't feel rational !

DontmindifIdo Sat 12-Jan-13 09:41:32

Is anyone else having name negotiations already? We've got a boy name sorted I think now (I win!) and we've got down to 2 names on girls. It's hard as DH and I have very different tastes...

MrsBri Sat 12-Jan-13 11:27:18

We are almost sorted on names, Dontmind. We have similar tastes, which is useful :-)

I have to recommend New Look for maternity wear. Just got mine and it is great. Really good price and comfy too. Advert over!

I'm massive already, curly. Not sure which I'd prefer, as I love looking pregnant.

No more kicks yet today. Boo! Willing baby to get moving!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 12-Jan-13 12:47:19

We've had our names picked since we started trying (we were at it for 12 months) we've got a girls name and a boys name, and reserves for each as well

dreamydays Sat 12-Jan-13 12:48:13

lexi we have a Jane Strada and it's been excellent on hills, in mud, for jogging - everything. DD always prefered being on bumpy surfaces so it had a lot of wear! Apart from needing the brakes fixed, it's still in perfect condition (bar a good wash!) for this time round too.

Don't mind I'm the opposite. I'm finding a girls name easy but not got a clue when it comes to boys names! Hopefully after our scan on 24th we will know one way or another.
I'm going to look online today for pregnancy pillows I think even though DH doesn't think there is enough room in a double bed for one and both of us.
Not been sick yet today so fingers crossed I can get some stuff done. I need to go to sainsburys and can't tackle that on a sat pm as well as sickness!

DontmindifIdo Sat 12-Jan-13 15:27:54

Oh, I find girls names easy, it's just that DH doesn't agree with my choices and he likes dull middle aged woman names names that sound like his class register from his primary school!

Annoyingly, have just looked at the thread in baby names about pretty names, I'd already suggested Persephone or Genevieve as both names I love but DH absolutely hates (so have been taken off the list as it's not fair to ask him to have a DD with a name he hates), and I have another couple I have loved for a long time that I've nagged in into submission over I'm bringing him round to - it's just between those two now if it is a girl and I'm not sure which I prefer, yet now reading that list, someone has suggested "Lydia". Now, I actually like that too. (and I've always had a soft spot for Lydia Bennet in P&P, she strikes me as a lot of fun!) I'm now considering adding it to my name list, but that makes it 3 girls names I'm arguing for, and then DS's name starts with "L" - that rather starts a trend if we want more DCs to have to give them an "L" name...

Boy name is pretty much sorted, DH and I both like the same shortened name, but we both agree a 'nickname' shouldn't go on the birth certificate. The name we like has 2 possible "long" names (well, actually more, but 2 main ones) and we both like a different one. He's said he's happy to compromise on that, mainly because I think he doesn't think we'll actually use the long name except when telling the boy off (I might have given this impression, but fully intend to use the long name once I've got it on the birth certificate and make sure everyone else does, sneeky, me?!? wink )

AlohaMama Sat 12-Jan-13 16:48:24

We have a girls name which we both love, having picked it out for baby 1 who turned out to be a boy. No boys name yet but hope to find out gender to see if we need to think of one or not. It has to be simple though as our last name is very long. And I already feel we gave the best name to ds1 so would be hard to find another boy's name we like as much.

lexi we have a BOB Revolution SE which I love for jogging and bumpy roads. They are really popular here but I don't know how available they are in the UK.

curly I'm still hardly showing but a bit behind you at 16 1/2. Still wearing normal clothes and only gained 3lbs which feels like it is mainly just boobs! Looking forward to a proper bump!

learnermummy Sat 12-Jan-13 18:43:31

We've struggled with names both times already and find that the older you get/more children you have that more names are 'taken'! Think we'll find out if boy/girl this time to help decide on names! Just hope they don't get it wrong - that's my fear about finding out!

DontmindifIdo Sat 12-Jan-13 19:00:28

AlohaMama - I know what you mean about having given the 'best' name to DS already, I really felt like the names left on our 'boy name list' were the ones that weren't quite good enough, however we were chatting and DH just suddenly popped out with the shortened version we'll use and it seemed like it would go really well with DS's name. It wasn't on our last list so does feel like a new name just for this bump (if it's a second boy).

We didn't have a girl name we loved, we were arguing on the drive to the hospital while I was having contractions about girl names. I think that's also fed into the "let's find out this time" feeling!!! (It would have made that drive a lot less stressful if I wasn't trying to argue my case for a name I love while remembering to breath properly!)

Sarah2506 Sat 12-Jan-13 20:07:35

Urgh, 4am here in Hong Kong and wide awake. So tired having been awake for well over 24 hours getting here. Do miss being able to have a gin and some Valium to get me through jet lag! Today seems like it will be another long day!!

AmIGoingMad Sat 12-Jan-13 21:10:17

Poor you Sarah! Hope you manage to get some sleep!

I had a crappy day yesterday but then Kate in the afternoon I'm sure I felt some flutters! Yey! smile

Learner- that's my fear about finding out this time too! Although I think we're going to as I think it'll be helpful logistically with all the stuff we already have if this little ones a boy and stuff we'd need if bump's a girl!

Binkybix Sat 12-Jan-13 23:09:04

Hello all. First time on this thread. Am due my first on the 14th June. Over the puking now, and have just started a new job so feeling a bit tired this weekend.

I've not done any planning etc at all yet!

AlohaMama Sun 13-Jan-13 02:54:06

Welcome binky and good luck with the new job.

learner does that still happen much? I was so impressed by the clarity of the scans last time it seems surprising that mistakes can still be made, I would have thought it was fairly rare. I suppose you could still get a false positive for a girl if it was a boy crossing his legs and hiding the evidence. Would be quite a shock if it was wrong but I think I'll still find out and hope for the best!

arlandria666 Sun 13-Jan-13 13:34:55

after umming and aarring about flutters i am almost certain that what i felt the past coupe of days was little kicks not very often lol i am 19+3 and been unsure about what i have been feeling lol this is my first baby.
yesterday was the first day i have embraced the bump and wore maternity clothes :-D
got my scan a week on Wednesday so hope this snow has cleared off and no more comes!x x

learnermummy Sun 13-Jan-13 17:39:17

The scans are so clear these days that hopefully they wouldn't get it wrong - just my irrational fear! Will still try and find out though.
DS1 and DS2 are driving me mad today and really making me worry about coping with 3! Am hoping it will diffuse them a bit!

cupcake78 Sun 13-Jan-13 17:53:32

Beginning to get excited now. I know I'm a long way off but wondering what baby will look like. Is it a boy or girl etc

Can't wait to pull the baby stuff out the attic but have a room to sort out and a house to rearrange before I can even get to that stage!

forgetmenots Sun 13-Jan-13 18:06:43

It's so exciting Lexi, I'm getting impatient for another peek. I'm in a city but for offroad I heard good things about Babyjogger versa gt - think it may only be for occasional offroad use but heard the wheels were very resilient.

Spent today looking online for things for baby, getting little jabs and kicks, so exciting. DH is thrilled because baby seems to get all active whenever he touches the bump smile

grainmum Sun 13-Jan-13 18:12:33

Just bought my first baby related purchase - a manual breast pump! Seems ridiculous but was half price in the Tesco event so seemed silly to miss.

I bought myself some breast pads in tesco! They had 1/3 off. Might start popping something in when ever I do a big shop or when I see something on offer. Just got to work out where to put it!

MrsBri Sun 13-Jan-13 18:26:18

Asda has a baby event starting on 17th. I'll get a few bits from there.

Go on Amazon for really good deals on Avent bottles, sterilisers, pumps etc.

AmIGoingMad Sun 13-Jan-13 18:54:56

Welcome binky!

My scan seems ages away! Have mw appt on tues though so hopefully I'll at least be able to hear little one. Feels a bit unreal again to be honest!

curlyclaz13 Sun 13-Jan-13 20:10:00

I am so bloated today can't really face food and am super gassy ! is this a pregnancy thing or just me grin

redwellybluewelly Sun 13-Jan-13 22:33:32

Ten days and we'll find out the gender! First thing I've been excited about since finding out I was expecting.

Dh still playing the competitive tiredness game, he is insisting we share night wakeups for dd and today had a lie in while i looked after dd and a nap while I did the weeks food shop! I'm annoyed as well as I did the first eighteen months solo at night even though I worked from dd being six months, had two nights off when I had a sickness bug and one when i had mastitis. Argh!

Little miss under the cot is a good place.

I don't have a cot yet!
I'm looking forward to finding out too the 24th can't come quick enough. My bump is looking huge! Had a bath tonight and can't believe how much it's grown already.

MrsBri Mon 14-Jan-13 06:33:05


And so the return of MS...lots of retching in the shower :-/ Wonder when I'll finally be free of it?! Hoping the breakfast I'm currently eating will stay down.

Redwelly, sorry your DH isn't being helpful. Why is he like that? Exciting about finding out the sex though.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 14-Jan-13 07:30:46

bri how far are you now? I have moments when I just feel awful (17+3) but I've stopped the actual vomiting which makes a nice pleasant change!!

Scan in just over 2 weeks and I'm still undecided as whether I want to find out or not!!!

forgetmenots Mon 14-Jan-13 07:49:01

Not feeling pregnant today! Very strange! Bump is clearly there but... Nope. Forgot I was pregnant this morning. I'm 18+4, hasn't been like this for a few weeks. sad

MrsBri Mon 14-Jan-13 08:20:12

I'm almost exactly the same as you, sparkle. Either 17 or 17+4 depending on whether it is LMP or scan we go by.

At least I'm not the only one suffering :-/

My sister thinks it may be caused by reflux...in turn caused by baby growing hair to tickle internally! I like that theory.

We are determined not to find out. I hope we stick to that resolve!

Steffanoid Mon 14-Jan-13 08:45:42

Hi all! Im due June 11 with my first, cant wait for my 20 week scan as im not sure what I've felt are movements or not but am very worried that something has gone wrong I'm very paranoid about this stuff!, hoping to find out sex as well providing all goes ok

olimoss Mon 14-Jan-13 10:55:38

We have scan tomorrow, and Consultant appt. Bit scary but mostly excited. I suppose we've been up officially waiting for the (hopeful) all-clear after the anomoly scan to really get serious about sorting the house, buying stuff. And booking a final holiday - essential!

Oh, and we are DEF finding out, don't feel any compulsion whatsoever to be secretive, maybe it's cause we're old and v pragmatic!

princesschick Mon 14-Jan-13 13:03:38

Wow, it's so busy on here! I try to keep up and read when I can but I've been so busy with other stuff, mostly around our house renovations that I haven't had time to get involved. So, sorry, you've probably all forgotten me as I've been woefully quiet. Anyways, hellos to all the newbies and hugs and brew all round.

I'm glad to be able to say that the sickness has gone...finally...I was still throwing up last week. Bleurgh... And I'm 19 weeks today. Fingers crossed for no more vomming.

Can't wait for my 20 week scan next week - so exciting! We're not finding out the sex because I like the idea of a surprise at the end.

Baby has been moving loads since 17 weeks and DH can feel him too (we call baby "he" in the text book sense and because he had big hands and feet on the 12 week scan!! grin)

On the topic of antenatal classes - we're starting hypnobirthing classes next month and have decided on the UPPAbaby pram. We had a good look at one before Xmas in John Lewis and absolutely loved it. I've only decided on the pram and a babybay so far, but not brave enough to buy anything yet. We're going to leave the nursery for a while so that we can use the room for people to stay over whilst baby is in with us and then we'll do nursery when we know what we really need as I'm the sort of person to get majorly excited and OTT, and we need to save for my maternity leave as I bring in the bigger wage at the moment.

On that note, is anyone going down the cloth nappy route? I've been in touch with the Nappy Lady who had some brilliant suggestions but the one's she's suggested seem to take a long time to dry and I really like the look of the bumgenius nappies. I think we'll try a couple of cloth nappies and if we don't get on with them we'll go down the eco disposable route. We'll probably end up doing a mixture of both anyway. Just wondering what others were going to do?

I've started a pregnancy yoga course, which is really brilliant and went and had a gentle swim at the weekend. It's so nice to feel back to normal again.

Well, hope you are all feeling brilliant and that the bloom is kicking in.

SunnyL Mon 14-Jan-13 13:09:04

Hi Princesschick

I'm hoping to go down the cloth nappy route. My sister in law has passed me her Bambino Mio newborn pack of nappies. I'm an environmental consultant so feel it would be hypocritical of me not to at least try. I did the sums and technically I could do full nappies up to potty training for £250. I found the Changeworks website really helpful for describing all the various options. http://www.changeworks.org.uk/shared/real-nappies/148/

princesschick Mon 14-Jan-13 13:20:13

Thanks SunnyL the Nappy Lady suggested Bamboozle Stretch (Stretchies) and then Motherease Rikki wraps plus all the other paraphernalia required. The nappies / wraps were about £200 + a bit more for liners etc but this would be newborn to potty and seems like a huge saving. The Bamboozle's do look good, apart from the drying time. She was really thorough: I had to fill out a long form and she got back very quickly. I'll check out the website you've suggested thanks for that! Lucky you to be passed some cloth nappies, I'm the first in my family to have a grandchild; we haven't had any new babies for 15 years in either of my families or DH's family so there aren't really any hand me downs and just complete hysteria about the arrival of our baby - eek!

grainmum Mon 14-Jan-13 13:20:27

Hi princess! I was wondering about nappies too as I was browsing the supermarket special offers and wondering if I should start stock-piling! I think we might start with disposable with the aim of moving to cloth a few weeks in when we're in a routine (?wishful thinking).

So, I've just looked up the Nappy Lady which looks like it has a lot of information. What can you tell me about eco disposable?

SunnyL Mon 14-Jan-13 13:25:02

Ah I'm lucky in that I'm not sure I'll have to buy anything for baby for at least 1 year. Hearing the amount of money others on here are considering spending on cots etc is terrifying. So far I've got all my furniture for free, pram being bought by my mum, clothing etc sorted (my sister used to work for Adams clothing company and when it went into liquidation she 'aquired' quite a lot of stuff), accessories from both sister and sister in law.

Thats a major bonus but it does mean because EVERYONE has had a baby before me I'm getting LOTS of advice. wink

olimoss Mon 14-Jan-13 13:27:07

I was given a top tip by a friend with a new 6-week old - she says just buy one pack each of a few different brands of newborn nappies, as they'll fit each baby differently and you won't know what works for you till your baby arrives. Once you've figured it out, stockpile away, disposable or otherwise.....

redwellybluewelly Mon 14-Jan-13 13:45:40

We've always used eco-disposable. We have a very good nappy group near us now but they were a bit rubbish when I was pg 1st time round and I bought some cloth nappies but never used them. I think its like slings, if you can get into them great otherwise just find what works for you. The money some people spend on cloth bots and also on slings is imho utterly jaw dropping.

We've used Sainsburys eco nappies from birth and also Naty babycare when on offer. Moltex are meant to be good. If you get a mamapack (£3-4) it may have some trial packs in it. I also get non disposable for nursery if they are on an excellent offer as they change DD on a system there wether she needs it or not. We found Naty babycare did not work when DD was small as her um was so ickle and they leaked.

LexiLexi Mon 14-Jan-13 14:02:55

Thanks dreamy, Aloha and forgetmenots for the pram recommendations, will check those out. There's so much choice out there, it's good to have a steer in the right direction. Particularly like the look of the Jane Strada, dreamy is it easy to fold? Our boot is usually half full of wellies and waterproofs so it's compact size appeals smile

Welcome Steffanoid, we are due the same day and it's our first baby too! Also feeling excited but a little apprehensive about the 20 week scan.

princesschick, we are hoping to go down the cloth nappy route too but will probably have some eco disposables on hand for trips away. We are renovating a cottage too, hoping the new roof is on before baby arrives!

maisiebeem Mon 14-Jan-13 14:28:57

hello all!
princess ive been looking into hypnobirthing, unfotunately there arent any local course that would be running around the time we were wanting to do them, and lots of weekend courses but unfortunately my dh and i both work weekends. Ive been debating a DIY method, studying some books and getting the CDs,

Has anyone else looked into hypnobirthing? tempted to go down the NCT route!

Buggy wise - what to people think of the Buggaboos? they seem really popular where i live!

redwellybluewelly Mon 14-Jan-13 14:47:04

I did hypnobirthing DIY style and weekly yoga from 13weeks and the two worked well together. I couldn't afford NCT and hypno classes.

I would certainly recommend it

Mutley77 Mon 14-Jan-13 15:04:13

Just ordered baby's pram - v excited as makes it seem more real. As I am on DC3 we have most things so this and the moses basket mattress will be about the limit of my shopping!!!

Early to be ordering but we are emigrating in six weeks and want to take the pram with me - will keep it in the box with receipt until I have had the 20 week scan and hope that all will be well after that.

We have decided on the mountain buggy swift and contraversially didn't like the babyjogger versa (also it's not really suitable for our needs given limited off road capacity) - anyone else going for a mountain buggy?

princesschick Mon 14-Jan-13 15:09:57

I think loads of people do DIY hypnobirthing using books / CDs / internet etc. We're just lucky to have some really good practitioners where we live and the lady we're going to is on the board of hypnobirthing teachers and was one of the first UK teachers approved by Marie Mongan. The course comes with all of the CDs and stuff that you need to practice and that seems to be the emphasis, practice, practice, practice! A couple of friends who've done it say it was the best decision they made; they had no tearing; and the midwives said they were super calm. I'm not sure how calm I'll be but it's worth a shot!!!

Grainmum eco disposables are just like regular disposable nappies but don't contain any chemicals nasties and bio-degrade slightly quicker than regular nappies. I'm just thinking that cloth nappies are easier on the purse when worked out over a couple of years. It's such a personal thing isn't it. Before I was totally going to be a disposable nappy mum and then I had a big think about it whilst in my third year of TTC when we overhauled our lifestyle completely. We switched to natural / organic toiletries / cleaning products last year, even changing from tampax to natracare tampons and from supermarket to organic cotton wool. Our house is being renovated using non toxic materials where possible (DH suffers from allergies and I had a slight hormone imbalance + when we started researching all this stuff we were horrified by some of the side effects, but lots of people consider us neurotic and over the top rather than sensible and cautious wink) So having chemical free / cloth nappies is really important to us, but not everyone's top priority. Plus I'm on a big saving drive at the moment and cloth nappies seem the cheaper option.

Lexi good luck with your cottage renovations. How long have you been going? We've been doing most things ourselves except for big important stuff like re-wiring, plumbing, lime plastering... It's taken an age because it's been fitted in around work and holiday's and social commitments (we're into our 10th month) but we're close to finishing now and I'm really excited about moving in. I started measuring up for furniture yesterday and I'm going to start a mood board for the kitchen tonight. I felt like Sarah Beaney sanding the stairs with my massive boiler suit, mask and bump yesterday!

AlohaMama Mon 14-Jan-13 16:12:40

sunny and princess I have used cloth with D's since he was about 4 wks old and still do (he's 20 more). We started with g diapers which were good when he was little and you can use flush able or washable inserts. We did try covers and pre folds but I was not keen on the wet pre fold being against the skin. Now we use fuzzibunz which I love. Same as bum genius really. They wick away from the skin well and are adjustable so one size fits all. Initial expense but we built up in batches and usually bought when there were offers on. I line dry but caveat is that I live in hawaii so stuff dries really quick plus gets nicely sun bleached. When it rains I occasionally use the dryer but try to avoid. I have friends who love bum genius and rumparooz, one friend who loved baby mia. Hope that helps! Oh yeah and we use disposables at night cos he pees lots and sleeps 12+ hrs and cloth would be sodden, and it means I can use nappy rash cream occ which you can't with cloth. I know others who use cloth at night though.

AlohaMama Mon 14-Jan-13 16:19:01

And Maisie my SIL used bugaboo for 3 kids and loved it. It was good on tracks and muddy paths but I am not sure if it's considered truly off road. She had the bassinet part, and I think the seat switched both ways. I know my MIL found it a pita to collapse bit that might just be her grin

Mawgatron Mon 14-Jan-13 18:07:42

I was looking about the Quinny but have recently also discovered the uppababy too and I think we might go with that- seems to have amazing reviews everywhere and has won lots of awards. And they sell it in John Lewis so you get the excellent customer service/ price matching etc. if you are looking to get one though, show John Lewis the beegees website- it is £50 cheaper on there and is a genuine shop that you can walk into so JL should price match it...

dreamydays Mon 14-Jan-13 19:40:44

lexi yes I always found the Strada fine to fold. It's not particularly light for chucking into the boot, and I wouldn't have thought it's all that small, but perfectly manageable - I haven't had others so don't know how it compares. Another reason we chose it was that its safety ratings at the time, particularly the car seat, were the best around; but this was in 2008 so things may well have changed since then.

AmIGoingMad Mon 14-Jan-13 20:38:38

Wow this thread moves so quickly!!!

Haven't managed to read up on everything but wanted to say hi!

Have mw appt tomrw- really hope I get to hear heartbeat- starting to worry again at the moment!

AlohaMama Mon 14-Jan-13 21:54:40

Good luck with your appointment AmI. Soon enough we'll all be able to feel movement regularly and then have that constant reassurance rather than wait for the hearbeat each time. I think maybe I am feeling occasional movements now, just that mostly I'm too busy to stop and notice it!

BumbleBee2011 Mon 14-Jan-13 22:26:21

Just wanted to weigh in on the nappy debate - we used disposables with DD for the first few weeks (was going to be the first fortnight but she ended up being tiny, and wouldn't fit into cloth nappies right away).

We went with bum genius, have had some accidents but we had those with disposables as well - it's just one of those things, especially when they're little and things can get explosive down there...

We tumble dry, and have been astonished at how easy it has been once you get into the routine of washing them. Plus I find they are kinder on baby bottoms, and they don't have that horrid chemical smell you get with disposables. We've had to switch to disposables at night now, and use Naty (from boots) as they don't seem to have the chemical smell either.

Starting to feel movement now, but the scan is ages away - 8th feb. Can't wait to find out whether DD will have a younger sister or brother!

learnermummy Mon 14-Jan-13 23:19:21

We did a hypnobirthing course last time which was good but think you'd get quite a lot from the book. Have also heard the natal hypnotherapy CDs are good. Midwives said I was really calm which I didn't believe until I found some video footage after the event!

AlohaMama Tue 15-Jan-13 01:34:27

Just made a Very Serious Error. Noticed on the parenting boards a thread for those with a newborn and toddler. "Aha" I thought to myself, maybe I can get some tips in advance. Now am convinced that darling ds will turn into a monster the minute his little brother or sister arrives, and I will be tearing my hair out in despair. Anyone expecting dc2, do not go there...

pinkapples Tue 15-Jan-13 06:16:37

My midwife keeps harping on about hypnobirthing but think I'm going to opt out it is £160 started aqua natal yoga on Sunday which was nice very relaxing my legs where like jelly when I got out of the pool grin

MrsBri Tue 15-Jan-13 07:19:24

Oops...thread fail, Aloha! :-) I'm sure it'll be just fine. Probably the same people posting who insist on sharing extreme birth stories. Normal, nice, stories don't get told!

Feeling pretty rough today and was sick again. I haven't felt much kicking since last week...hopefully baby is just camping out towards the back of me. I wish this worry would stop as I'm driving myself mad :-/

How is everyone feeling today?

Oh, and in relation to finding out the sex, I'm old and pragmatic as well, Oli, but I want a reward at the end of the hard work by finding out the sex then. Nice to have something to look forward to after labour. :-)

Mawgatron Tue 15-Jan-13 07:34:53

Feeling better today but was feeling terrible yesterday, all fluey and crap. Probably made worse because I couldn't drug myself up like I normally do.
I had written off cloth nappies as a complete pain in the arse, but reading this has made me reconsider. Problem is we haven't got a tumble drier- wont they go all crispy if you dry them on an airer?
Quite like the sound of these Eco disposables. Going to go off and have a nosy at them (first baby, research is my best mate ATM...)

Sams4lo Tue 15-Jan-13 07:55:49

Aloha - try not to panic, I'm on dc 5 and you never ever hear good stories only negative! Children are more adaptable than we give them credit for, touch wood I've never had jealousy or problems with rivalry, I don't think age gaps matter, we have between 3 yrs and 21 months between each and it's made no difference! Children will always test boundaries and a new baby is an excuse to see how on the ball mummy and daddy are, but routines help and consistency smile

I considered reusable nappies with mine but they have all had milk allergies, and the thought of not chucking out one of those nappies is not a nice one! I have so much respect for those that do it and wish I could do it too, but dc5 is the last as dh is going for the snip snip lol smile

So today I'm off for my scan and consultant appt smile to say I'm nervous is the understatement of the decade, I didn't sleep last night and am petrified sad

learnermummy Tue 15-Jan-13 08:08:14

Washable nappies weren't for me but do know lots of people who've had great success with them. I went for Eco disposables - either nature or sainsburys ones. Will do again as I found them much kinder to baby's skin. Good luck with the scan today Sams, need some tips for coping with more than 2!

redwellybluewelly Tue 15-Jan-13 10:10:12

Good luck Sams

LexiLexi Tue 15-Jan-13 10:24:32

Thanks redwelly for the mention of the Mama pack, have just ordered mine online for princley sum of £2.60. For anyone else interested, there's a list of online pack stockists at www.mamapacks.eu/viewtopic.php?f=357&t=17880

princesschick, congratulations on reaching the almost-complete stage of your renovation. It would be great to hear your experiences and to swap renovation stories! We are just at the beginning of ours. Our cottage is listed so everything takes time as we need consent to carry out even basic repairs. Getting the cottage habitable for baby is a huge challenge as it has been virtually untouched since it's last revamp c.1870 (no bathroom and the kitchen is a sink with a bucket underneath). However we thought it'd be years before we had our dream home and we have it now.

Very best of luck for today, AmI and Sams!

redwellybluewelly Tue 15-Jan-13 10:37:17

Missed AMI post - hope you get to hear squishy nice and loudly smile

I might go get my mama pack after my 20 weeks scan, after a few days of being bumpy I woke up with no bump again so I'm a tad concerned as to why I am fluctuating so much in shape.

princesschick Tue 15-Jan-13 11:47:19

Thanks for the mention Redwelly and the link Lexi, I've just ordered my mamapack smile

lexi Ask away about anything re the renovation - our house is a small, cottage like Edwardian terrace and was in desperate need of TLC (admittedly, we had no idea quite how much when we started!) what with had about 100 years of rubbish DIY and cheapo botch jobs plus no apparent maintenance for years. The only option was to gut and start again. Big jobs: removing all of the old lath and plaster and replacing with hemp lime plaster and fibre boards / removing a concrete floor by hand and replacing with limecrete....it's been extensive! We're not listed though so we don't have the same restrictions as you'll have. But we have been super thorough so PM me if you want smile Oh and I would highly recommend the following books: Period Property Manual and Old House Handbook as you need to be quite careful how you treat old houses / what materials you use. Some builders / suppliers will look at you as if you are mental when you comment on some of this stuff, but we've done loads and loads and loads of research and quite often those builders / suppliers were wrong and we'd have ended up with problems down the line if we'd had listened to them. Your house sounds gorgeous BTW - good luck! smile

Interesting to hear all of the experiences of cloth nappies v eco disposables. I guess I won't know what fits / suits / works for us until baby's here, so I think I'll just keep an open mind and try a few different things.

Hope all of the appointments go well today.

I must admit after feeling brilliant and optimistic yesterday morning I was feeling all teary and tired at the end of the day yesterday. DH bought dinner to me in bed on a tray so that I could watch telly and slob, which was lovely. I had 9 hours unbroken sleep last night but still feel wiped out today. Someone was very busy yesterday too, so I wonder if we're having a growth spurt / development experimentation going on in there at the moment!!

Waves and loves to all smile

Olimoss Tue 15-Jan-13 16:25:02

Hi all - just back from Consultant appt and 20-week scan. Baby as unco-operative today as at the 12-week scan, little bugger....but v detailed checks done and all as normal as could be hoped for....and it's a boy. Definite willy action in the screen....will have to stop referring to the baby as 'it' I guess!

Hope everyone else's apps went well today, it's a big relief to get this anomoly scan done when you're ancient like me. Obv no guarantees, but so far so good.

C-section looking likely, due to various factors, will know more at next appt in a month.

suzyrut Tue 15-Jan-13 16:29:08

Hope all has gone well today amI and sams have my scan on Thursday and will hopefully if this baby chooses to oblige (first time ever) then will be finding out boy/girl not least so I can stop referring to it as "it"

Have taken the plunge and booked a holiday in July, it's only cornwall and baby should be about 5 weeks but early reactions from RL friends is that I must be insane! I remember the early stage being tiring but not that bad, it was a long time ago though so maybe I will live to regret it!

princess my tiredness seems to have come back with a vengence in the last few weeks, I read that they baby doubles in size or weight (can't remember which) in weeks 16 to 20 though so I think you could be right on the growth spurt!


suzyrut Tue 15-Jan-13 16:30:35

Congrats olimoss brilliant news xx

Sams4lo Tue 15-Jan-13 16:38:21

So I went and not the best outcome as baby looks like a boy, and now I'm in a complete state after ds1 and ds2 were abruptions sad I'm so scared it will happen again sad sorry to write a negative sad

Hope everyone else is ok smile x

AlohaMama Tue 15-Jan-13 16:46:48

Congrats olimoss on your boy!

mawgatron I use cloth wipes too (love them) and they do go crispy on the line but as I use them with a bowl of water to wipe it doesn't matter. The fuzzibunz don't go crispy, I think cost they are synthetic fibre not cotton. Inserts are soft micro fibre polyester and outside is fleece polyester.

suzyrut I'm sure you'll be fine. The difficult things will be taking breaks in the journey to feed and get baby out of car seat (depending on where you are coming from). At 6 wks ds was still sleeping and highly portable. We're coming back to UK from Hawaii (24 hrs, 2 flights) with ds1 who will be 2yr4mo and new baby who will be around d 6 wks. Have convinced myself it will all be fine!

DontmindifIdo Tue 15-Jan-13 16:47:18

Sams4lo - have you seen a consultant about it? Is it more likely with a boy than a girl?

Sams4lo Tue 15-Jan-13 18:09:02

Seen the consultant and review in 3 wks! For me I've carried two girls and no abruption and the two boys were both abruptions sad so hoping this one goes against the theory! X

forgetmenots Tue 15-Jan-13 18:17:05

Congrats olimoss that's lovely!

A bit worried (again!) because not feeling the same movement and not feeling very pregnant today sad just a bit sensitive I think! Scan next Friday...

AmIGoingMad Tue 15-Jan-13 18:32:49

Will catch up properly in a min- quick post as just heading home from work. Got there for appt and she told me that they don't listen now til the 24 wk appt!!!! Wtf!!!! So I see the baby again before hearing heartbeat?!?! My mate in diff hospital but same health board had heartbeat listened to at 16 wks. Feeling a bit sad about it all and very angry!!!

Hawkmoth Tue 15-Jan-13 18:58:17

My MW said its not recommended to listen to the heartbeat at 16/18 weeks here now. Which is bloody odd because she was my midwife last time. She said if I ask her she will do it though... Tomorrow smile

Olimoss Tue 15-Jan-13 19:01:59

So weird, this heartbeat stuff. My midwife did at 16 weeks, even the consultant did today....such a little thing that makes such a big difference to peace of mind....can't understand why they don't.

forgetmenots Tue 15-Jan-13 19:10:30

Mine said (before doing it), 'this absolutely doesn't mean anything, it's just sometimes worth it'. She did stress that I shouldn't get upset if I didn't hear it and that it might be hard to find. I think they worry about upsetting mums needlessly.

learnermummy Tue 15-Jan-13 19:21:58

They did find my little one's heartbeat at 16 weeks but did stress beforehand that it might be too early and not to panic if they couldn't find it. As forgetmenot said probably don't want to upset people unnecessarily.

MrsBri Tue 15-Jan-13 19:45:34

My midwife said exactly the same...said if I would panic by not hearing it, I shouldn't have her try.

I'm glad appointments went well. So exciting finding out about the sex of babies :-)

Fx this boy us third time lucky, Sam.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 15-Jan-13 20:54:57

I'm another whose midwife warned is before hand that you may not hear the heartbeat, she gave us the choice, it was the only reason why DH came with me some gave it a go!! It took ages for her to find it and it was rather terrifying while she was looking for it!

redwellybluewelly Tue 15-Jan-13 21:02:18

My midwife didnt give any kind of warning but I was a bit later due to Christmas so 17ish not 16 weeks.

suzyrut I dont think you're mad or at least if you are so are we! Thinking of taking dd and dc2 to see friends in south west in late August/early September!

pinkapples Tue 15-Jan-13 21:23:27

I listened to hb at 15 weeks and midwife never even mentioned it just asked me to get on the bed grin

Feeling decidedly not pregnant today scared of the scan next Wednesday just have visions of someone saying its stopped growing weeks ago or that there is a problem sadsad

forgetmenots Tue 15-Jan-13 22:08:36

That's how I'm feeling today pinkapples, a bit unsettling isn't it? Wonder if the baby is resting a bit more because it's using all its energy on a growth spurt iyswim, bump certainly getting bigger.

Sunbeam18 Tue 15-Jan-13 22:10:31

Congrats on your boy, Olimoss! I have over 2 weeks to wait to find out if mine is blue or pink!
I'm ancient too, Olimoss. Can you tell me if the consultant took age as a factor re possible caesarean? Haven't yet seen consultant so not sure of options. Have been told I won't be allowed to go over 40 weeks at my age due to in increased change of deteriorating placenta (am 40, and will be 40 at time of birth). X

AmIGoingMad Tue 15-Jan-13 22:31:51

Congratulations on positive scan olimoss and on finding out you're having a boy!smile

Sams it will all be ok. See what the consultant says when you see them next and discuss your worries with them. And don't apologise for posting a 'negative' - we're all in the same boat with swinging between the positive and negative! I think it's the nature of pregnancy!

Forgetmenots- I know what you mean. I think that's why I was so upset at not even getting a chance at hearing heartbeat. I'm 17 wks today and whilst I understand the disclaimers being given as many of you have said, I would have liked to have the choice. Feel a little cheated! Hopefully little ones will start moving around more for us now to reassure us?! My 20 wk scan is also when I'm 21 wks so even longer to wait- aargh!

I also feel your pain/ pride with renovations- we gutted and pretty much rebuilt our house a few years back- although hats off to you as I wasn't pregnant during renovation!

AlohaMama Tue 15-Jan-13 23:32:13

Shame they can't leave it to you to decide if you want to try to hear the hearbeat or not. As long as they explain the potential for not hearing something, you would have thought you could make the decision yourself? Fortunately my ob always checks, in the initial appointments it was using one of the internal ultrasoundy thingies and since the 12 weeks appt it is using the external thingy.

Anyway I finally have my scan date - 30 Jan. So excited!

Sarah2506 Wed 16-Jan-13 05:41:03

Aloha- I'm being noisy and wondering how come you have the uk/Hawaii dimension? Are you English and living out there? Which island?

So ladies, we are on our last holiday for what will be a while. We went to Hong Kong for three days an we are now on a lovely Thai beach before heading home via Singapore and dubai. It's lovely but it's been really hard to adjust with the jet lag. I'm not expecting sympathy- I know how cold it is at home! Wondered if anyone else had found it much harder to adjust to time zone changes while pregnant though? Normally I'd just sleeping pill through it, it Valium if really bad, but not an option for me right now! Doctor said nytol ok if desperate but that doesn't seem to make much difference!

A few of you have said you'd like final holidays before baby so def worth factoring in that everything is harder than normal, much like normal life at home- sun knackers you quickly, feel sick if sunbathing and get too much sun on head, need to drink gallons and wee constantly!

Withalittlesparkle Wed 16-Jan-13 06:47:52

I feel decidedly unpregnant today too sad I have my scan two weeks tomorrow and pretty convinced it'll be bad news, despite seeing baby twice on scans and hearing its little heartbeat

forgetmenots Wed 16-Jan-13 07:31:22

Me too, sparkle. I've been a total worrier since day one (paid for an early scan because I was sure something was wrong...) so trying to tell myself it's not necessarily bad news. But I've gone from feeling baby's 'presence' (not in an airy fairy way, since six weeks I've been able to point to where it is sitting) to not feeling pregnant much at all in the past couple of days, and yesterday was odd. Hoping for flips, kicks and flutters today sad

MrsBri Wed 16-Jan-13 07:39:19

Sparkle and forget...I feel exactly the same as you. I think it is only natural, but it is frustrating, I think, to worry so much. I'm desperately trying to tune in to baby's movements now after the kicks on Friday.

Just have to try to stay calm. UnMN hugs all round, I think.

forgetmenots Wed 16-Jan-13 07:50:44

It's not maybe a nice thing to say but it's weirdly comforting that others feel the same - makes it more likely to be 'normal'. I've been trying to just take the opportunity to get on with things while I feel less affected, and it's a distraction. Very unMN hugs to you all, I'm sure the babies are just busy growing... We might be wishing for a kick free day in a week or two!

DontmindifIdo Wed 16-Jan-13 08:13:55

I must say, I do'nt remember feeling DS kick this early, so perhaps you've just got more laid back babies(this isn't a bad thing when towards the end they can be kicking hte hell out of you constaintly)

I'm currently trying not to panic - giving DS a bath last night I noticed he'd got a rash on his torso/legs. I know chicken pox is doing the rounds in this area. I just hope it's not that,I've kept him off nursery today and have a GP appointment this morning to check what it is. He seems really chipper and playing nicely with his cars so I think it's unlikely to be anything serious. Spent last night googling worse case senario for bump if I catch chicken pox. Really, google can be the way to maddness...

AlohaMama Wed 16-Jan-13 08:15:11

Hugs to all those feeling non-pregnant and worried. Just to reassure you, it will only be a couple more weeks like this then you'll feel decidedly pregnant with a growing bump and regular movement - as long as you don't start worrying on the days when there isn't much movement.

sarah I'm British (well dual us-uk but lived most of my life in England so the us-psrt is just a passport) and have been living in Honolulu for 4 yrs now. Which is why I only ever post in the afternoon and night time for most of you, as I'm ten hours behind. Right, off to sleep now!

redwellybluewelly Wed 16-Jan-13 09:16:20

DD (DC1) started kicking at 18 weeks and didn't stop until the day I went into delivery due to lack of movements.

This one - 19+2 and have felt a few movements but certainly not daily.

curlyclaz13 Wed 16-Jan-13 09:20:04

Still not feeling pregnant, no movements and not much of a bump. Scan is tomorrow and I am really worried it is bad news, barley slept last night and have cried every day since Saturday form various things to the point OH is getting annoyed as I am stressing myself out and it 'is not good for the baby' well tell my hormones that ! (possibly the only thing that is 'pregnant feeling' about me)

Olimoss Wed 16-Jan-13 11:29:35

Thank you everyone for your kind words, it's taking a while to get head around the fact the baby isn't an 'it' anymore, but is a 'he'.....now keen to hear what the deal is for the rest of you!

grainmum Wed 16-Jan-13 11:47:05

Hi everyone, hang in there until the 20 week scans! I had mine yesterday and it was lovely - took 20-25 minutes and sonographer checked all the bits of the baby really thoroughly, could see it nudging me with its hands and legs so I think DH really believes that it is proper movements now!

So, onto the shopping list. Today's task has been to have a look at cots/nursery furniture on-line. DH is working long days over the weekend so I think I might take the opportunity to go and at least look at where the decent shops are. Anybody got any good suggestions - Glasgow area?

DontmindifIdo Wed 16-Jan-13 11:49:01

Well, DS has chicken pox, apparently as I've had it as a child it's low risk I'll get it and then even if I do, low risk the baby will catch it.

So worrying! It's amazing how I genuninely don't care about my own health only that of DS and bump....

forgetmenots Wed 16-Jan-13 12:37:02

Hi grainmum! Try the glasgow pram centre in the east end, and John Lewis and Mamas and Papas have sales on just now - picked up a couple of bargains! I'm in glasgow too - scan next week at the southern!

Thanks for all the hugs - think my worry is just because baby has been very active (I felt flutters really early) and it now feels less, when it's probably just different and nothing is regular yet. Still tuning in to the different feelings!

suzyrut Wed 16-Jan-13 13:57:47

Hey ladies, am a worrier here too, have taken today off because of spotting (5th episode now) and even though I'm sure there's no problem (baby kicking around) and been to the hospital the last few times where they've reassured me I can't stop worrying about it!

I know everyone's diferent but if it's any consolation I was feeling flutters from about 14 to 16 weeks then had a very quiet period upto half way through week 19 didn't feel anything some days. I think it can depend on where your placenta is and the a big growth sput up to 20 weeks too. I also feel less "pregnant" as in the hormones seem to have finally calmed down a bit.

I read everywhere this is the bit we're supposed to be enjoying!!!! xx

forgetmenots Wed 16-Jan-13 14:16:00

Suzy, thanks so much for taking the time away from your own worries to post that, I find that really reassuring. thanks

You're doing the right thing resting up - lovely that baby is letting you know all is well! smile

SunnyL Wed 16-Jan-13 15:10:15

I've barely felt babs moving all week (until today). I've not been worried since its such early days and had the midwife appointment on Friday who said not to start expecting regular movements until 24 weeks.

What I can suggest is try wearing tighter jeans. I've been getting poked and kicked all day whereas on previous days when wearing floaty dresses have barely felt a thing. Its either that or babs likes listening to Radio 2....