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Shagged Out Viroids 6th Thread! From Early Days to Ready To Pop - Proof that JSing really does work!

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WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 17:24:47

Hello and welcome to another shiny fred for Just Shagging graduates!

The last fred was nice and busy so fingers crossed we get lots more members grin

We've just moved over from the Shagged Out Viroids Volume 5 thread, where we finally found out that a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!
The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

Our stats thread is here, so if you find us, please add your stats too.

There is also a Just Mumming thread for grads of the grads thread confused grin

And if you want to find out what Just Shagging is about or catch up with the undergrads go say hello to the Just Shaggers here, now on the 12th thread thanks

Hi all! Had my 28 week scan yesterday where i found out that i have excess fluid poly something? Chubber weighs 3lbs already

WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 17:33:21

Hi something! Haven't heard from you in ages - I'm so glad everything seems to be going well. Is that fluid thing when you retain the fluid ie. swollen feet and hands etc?

28 weeks - so exciting! I'll be 23 on Saturday so not too far behind you grin

For some reason my phone hated the old fred and wouldn let me type! Loves this one though? grin

Er its something to with to much amniotic fluid so therfore i mesure 32cm at 28 weeks!

how are you?

WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 18:21:54

So glad your phone is happy now too smile

That's ironic as I'm sure you said you weren't showing that much early on - or have I made that up?!

I'm fine thanks smile The last couple of weeks have been manic and normally I think I'd have been knocking back the wine but obviously haven't at all.

Although, there was an offer of 3-for-£5 on those little individual bottles of wine so I bought three of each colour a few last week and might have to treat myself to one tonight!

I still dont really have a bump so i dont have a clue where this baby and fluid is?

i have been craving wine and beer and have indulged in a small glass tonight yummm

Ill find a link to my bump smile

[[ http://m.facebook.com/home.php?ref=m_notif&notif_t=group_comment_reply&__user=1207017608 28 week bump]]

[[ m.facebook.com/home.php?ref=m_notif&notif_t=group_comment_reply&__user=1207017608 28 week bump]]

Arh my link wont format so ill post it in the fb group

WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 18:58:21
WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 18:59:07

Hmm, the link does but it goes through to the mobile site which is WEIRD on a laptop!

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 06-Dec-12 19:06:38

Child, I found out I was no longer immune to rubella (ella, ella) when I was pg with DS. They gave me the jab once he was out & we were on the way out of the post-natal ward (they wouldn't 'let' me leave without it), I just avoided massive groups of snotty kids until then!

Still only 5weeks here, but feeling more positive about this one. Although I've been so tired I'm really glad I didn't get pg (and sticky) earlier, IYSWIM?

Hope everyone else is doing well?

I was rubella non immune with DS got one out of the two injections and this time im immune

Hello everyone, nice to be on a brand new fred. I am all referred to midwives/obsgynae etc now, and have a lovely BMI but very low blood pressure. Managed to faint 3 times today sad only hurt myself once so could have been worse.

My mood is a bit meh at the moment - hormones, and not being on ADs, and strsses of doing up the house I think! Hoping that once things get rolling in terms of booking in appts and the first scan I will feel a lot more positive. GP gave me a due date of 29 July, but that will probably change after the scan.

Any tips on coping with the fainting malarkey?

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Thu 06-Dec-12 20:44:30

No tips on coping with fainting I'm afraid waves but hope you feel better soon. I think that low blood pressure does pass but its something to do with extra/less blood volume or something. Apologies or the completely unelightening post.

I am better with polyhydramnios though ... I had it in both previous pregnancies, badly with DD. Have they done a GTT test something? Do you know if they are going to do any further tests? My one piece of advice is DON'T google it!

I have a mini bottle of wine so think I might join you Wing!

WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 20:49:18

Hmm, waves I actually only fainted after I had DS, not when I was pregnant. I've always had fairly low BP and have had to be careful with things like getting out of bed, up from a chair, couldn't do yoga(!) etc. Being pregnant makes my BP go up to normal levels! confused Perhaps your house stresses could do the same? actually being serious

I've not had experience with ADs but if it affects you too much, aren't there some you can take when pregnant? Or would that mean potentially going onto another type which can either not work or give you bad side effects? I wonder if anyone on the mental health topics could help if you need advice.

Gary glad you're feeling positive about this one. Are you sure you're not actually Kate Middleton? Go on, we won't tell anyone... wink

guinea my gtt is normal mw wanted me scanned again but i have a scan in 4 weeks and she said there wouldnt be any point in doing one sooner.

Ive mesured ahead since 26 weeks but its consistent at 4 weeks ahead so at least im not getting bigger each time! grin

CuriouslyChristmassyColaHam Thu 06-Dec-12 21:06:39

Just marking my place. smile

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Thu 06-Dec-12 21:47:08

Something in the vast majority of cases polyhydramnios has no known cause (called idiopathic polyhydramnios) so I wouldn't worry too much. Sometimes it can cause more Braxton hicks contractions/false labours (I had loads with DD). Be prepared for a big gush when your waters break - when I had DD by elcs there was so much fluid the Dr dropped DD back in! shock grin

WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 22:18:53

Guinea I googled it blush

tiredteddy Thu 06-Dec-12 23:16:13

Found you! Just got in from third night out in a row, must slow down! Very tired, going to bed will catch up properly in the morning.

Pineapple80 Thu 06-Dec-12 23:17:40

Greetings from Singapore! smile We are doing good and absolutely loving the warm weather.

cola - so happy the scan went well!! My scan also showed baby measured 2 days older than calculated from LMP. Do you all generally follow the measurement then? What's the norm? And 6 pics too, yay!

something - interesting reading about that, had never heard about it before actually.

waves - I have had two bouts of almost fainting, I get very dizzy, sweat profusely and feel very sick. It's an awful feeling but I don't faint luckily. Hope you're ok and didn't get hurt fainting, take care! I didn't get my blood results back before I left so unfortunately not sure what caused my dizziness, apparently my BP was normal.

Hi to everyone else! Keep warm and take caresmile

Pineapple80 Thu 06-Dec-12 23:19:02

Have a good rest tired!

MrsBri Fri 07-Dec-12 07:19:05

Hello all...marking my spot :-)

Not sure how you've managed 3 nights out, tired. It's my work do tonight, and I'm dreading it after the most appalling night's sleep last night. I won't be staying late!

Hi pineapple :-) Glad the journey is going OK. Have you flown with Singapore? I like them...flew to Sydney with them and thought they were really good. And Chiangi is an awesome airport :-)

See im wondering if i had it undiagnosed with DS as when they went it was a tidal wave and at one point i mesured 4/5 weeks ahead with him?

The dr broke them i felt a small trickle she took her hand and saw out and i flooded the bed/floor and everytime i contracted there was another gush. guess im just a watery lady grin

WingDefence Fri 07-Dec-12 09:28:50

Juicy! confused grin

notsoold Fri 07-Dec-12 18:12:12

Hi there...I might not be joining you girls just yet....
I tested on digital clearblue yesterday and got a pregnant 1-2 weeks... but the gp send me to blood test today to check why the variation. So the first hcg test results will be next monday.
Yesterday symptoms, today none!!!
Still i was happy until I went to the loo and there was a tiny amount of red blood in my knickers. Just put a pad and wait to see what happens
Oh dear....
Can one spot without losing the pregnancy???
Going to check in half hour and see...
Really need some hand holding...

tiredteddy Fri 07-Dec-12 18:15:49

Here's a hand to hold. notsoold I don't know much about your situation but here to support you.

notsoold Fri 07-Dec-12 18:24:44

Thanks tired....I am 41 and havd 2 dc and after a long gap we jsed got pregnant and had a mc in june. Trying since for a lo.
I just 4 weeks and maybe should not complain...but we really want everything to go well...
Scared senseless...never had any kind of spotting bleeding before...

WingDefence Fri 07-Dec-12 18:45:48

Oh no notsoold. I had spotting when my ERTD was due that lasted four days and it was only because I thought hmm that's not a full load's worth (if you know what I mean) that I tested. Then I had red spotting on paper when I wiped after doing a poo (TMI sorry!) and I googled tons about spotting in early pregnancy and it really can be absolutely fine.

My OV/conception date was also 8 days earlier than the date calculated from the last day of the previous ERTD so that could explain a variation in you too?

At just possibly 4 weeks that sounds like implantation bleeding usally occurs if it occurs when ertd would be due

If it helps me conception date was the 5th of june DPs 22nd birthday grin got bfp on the 15th june

tiredteddy Fri 07-Dec-12 19:06:29

notsoold I have everything crossed for you. How are you doing now?

notsoold Fri 07-Dec-12 19:13:31

Ooohhh hope you are right....my af was due on the 4th of December... Today is the 7th, so I hope you guys are right....but it was bright red...and cramping a little
I went checking ( sorry tmi) no blood...
So I will check again later...
Thanks...can not tel anybody in RL... Mum knows but she is elderly and traveling tonight.
Dh is away with work!
Thank you for your pacience with this old bird!!!

ChildOfThe1980s Fri 07-Dec-12 20:27:18

Hi notsoold hope you are ok. It is possible to have spotting and a healthy pregnancy, so holding thumbs for you.x

WingDefence Fri 07-Dec-12 22:29:53

It really could be implantation. I won't say 'don't worry' because I know that is nigh on impossible (!) as I went through it too, but there isn't much you can do apart from checking very half hour obsessively as I did

Take care, oh and you're really not that old! grin

Also offering a hand to hold notso hope all is ok over the weekend

Pineapple80 Fri 07-Dec-12 23:10:54

Hope you are ok notsoold, keep us posted on how you get on thanks

notsoold Sat 08-Dec-12 07:40:53

Thanks all...
All over for me unfortunately...: (
Bleeding heavier now with cramps and it is bright red...
Thank you so much for holding my hand, and althow back to ttc I do hope to be here soon!...

tiredteddy Sat 08-Dec-12 08:05:53

Oh so sorry notsoold sad hope to see you back here very very soon x

WingDefence Sat 08-Dec-12 08:07:28

sad sad sad
So sorry to hear that. Could it have been a
chemical pregnancy because I think those may be where you get a BFP but then ERTD arrives roughly around the right time?

It may not be a sticky this time (but it might be?!) but I pray you'll be back on here as soon as possible if not.

Is it too early for wine?

sad I am so sorry to hear that notso, I really hope that you will be back here soon thanks

Pineapple80 Sat 08-Dec-12 10:23:37

Really sorry to hear this notsoold...take care of yourself & hope to see you back.

WingDefence Sat 08-Dec-12 14:01:54

Pineapple are you Down Under? Go on, tell us what the weather's like then envy

WingDefence Sat 08-Dec-12 14:11:15

Oh and MrsBri, I'm currently sitting in Cafe Moo Moo in Churchtown having a lazy lunch. Do you know it? Off to spend the afternoon with my SIL afterwards grin

MrsBri Sat 08-Dec-12 15:38:14

I don't, but DH has just told me where it is! Have a lovely time. :-)

I've just done the Christmas tree. Finally.

Buying the eye wateringly expensive chocolate tree decs finally made me get my arse into gear!

notsoold Sun 09-Dec-12 10:49:06

Hi beautifull people!!!
Again questions (sorry for being a bore!) and way TMI for which I apologise!!! wing and everybody else...please help?

I bled yesterday (a NORMAL pad every 4 hours) and last night (a night pad) and up to now ( a pad for 2 hours and still fine). Cramps were the same as during normal period but bleeding is wwaaayyy lighter (for me, anyway). Last night and today should have already been heavier and with clots, but I passed only a small one yesterday.

Symptoms are all gone (sore boobs and nausea)...
But I trailled Dr google and seems to be those that went through this and had a LO in the end... like you wing (please correct me if I am wrong)

Should I go back to Agnus castus or is there a small hope?? I am concerned to take it and if by any chance I am still pregnant I will lose it... on the other hand Agnus castus would help to remove any clots and tidy things up (sorry if wrong expression!) and I would not be bleeding for too long....

Help??? smile Pretty please??

Think i lost some plug? Had crippling backache yesterday so seems to all fit?

tiredteddy Sun 09-Dec-12 11:26:46

No idea sorry notsoold but still hand holding.

something do you have any labour symptoms again?

Only backache really that i had in early labour with DS and ahem a bit of a clear out

tiredteddy Sun 09-Dec-12 17:33:33

Hi all, hope everyone is having a good weekend? I'm irrationally grumpy. There's so much I want to get done before Xmas and I just feel foiled at every attempt I make. I know I've been snappy today too so feel like a mean mummy too. Hope you are ok something and notsoold x

WingDefence Sun 09-Dec-12 18:30:53

Hmm notsoold I really can't say. I guess only you know what is normal and what isn't re: your ERTD.

I think you have a typo in your post but I'm assuming that you wonder I'd you should still go to the GP tomorrow? I'd say yes, definitely. You've had a BFP and they will want to check things over. Try to get an early scan of possible?

Good luck - and handholding to something too.

Pineapple80 Mon 10-Dec-12 04:03:14

Hello from Oz! It is a lovely 20 degrees in Melbourne and just wonderful grin. Settling in at the in laws and all has been well.

Hope all are well and keeping warm.

We have just announced pregnancy to family and close friends as I was 12 wks yesterday.Everyone very excited and happy.

notsoold - are you able to get a scan at the EPU if you have one nearby? At least that could confirm things for you.

something - how are you doing? Hope all is ok...

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Mon 10-Dec-12 08:16:18

Hope you're both ok Something and notsoold. I recommend you both getting checked out, then you'll have an idea of where you're at.

Tired everyone has off days, I've had a fair few during this pregnancy already and I know there have been times when I have been a snappy, mean mummy and the little things have driven mad like this morning when DS was being utterly gormless

It's DDs birthday today! Can't believe she's 3 already. This time 3 years ago I was waiting nervously in a waiting room for my hospital bed and my section.

No teaching today - hurrah! Plus its my 20 week scan tomorrow, very exciting.

Glad you arrived safe Pineapple and really pleased you've shared your news.

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 08:22:09

I agree with you about the grumpiness Guinea. I have been getting much more annoyed with DS about silly things han normal and had to apologise to him last week sad

Happy Birthday to your DD! This time next year you'll be deciding about primary schools like we are and arguing about them if you can't decide between you hmm

I'm going to put the tree up today while DS is at preschool and DH is away for work until late. Even though I have tons of work to do - this is just another thing on my to do list, right?! grin

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 08:24:01

Ooh and hello Pineapple!!

There's going to be a Siberian cold snap in the UK this week so you definitely chose the best time to emigrate!

Has the Kath & Kim film been released over there yet btw?! grin

Im ok thanks however am getting my hand x-rayed today. Dp crushed it two days ago and the pain is getting worse/not better. Bit of swelling hard lump and very tender on the bone. Hopefully just a bruise?

tiredteddy Mon 10-Dec-12 10:18:17

Thanks guinea feeling a bit less tired but still rather daunted today. I think it's Xmas looming and knowing that after that there are just a couple of weeks before minitireds arrival. Happy birthday to your dd and not long until the scan, will you find out hat you are having?

Hello wing and pineapple hope your hand is ok something ?

Aches up into my wrist better not be broken as its my dominant hand!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Mon 10-Dec-12 11:25:27

Fingers crossed no pun intendedwink its just a bruise something

I'm hoping to find out whether miniGuinea is a boy or girl. I found out with the other two and really liked knowing. It also means if we are having a boy baby I can get rid of the stuff I've been keeping from DD. I have no baby stuff at all though so still necessitates a shopping trip, such a shame grin .

Wing I am meant to be working today but a friend was going to Ikea and I needed a few bits and bobs...the Ikea breakfast just landed on the table in front of me, honest blush

Just popping to mamas and papas to check out their sale.

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 11:42:23

Guinea I'll take some girly stuff off your hands if you're having a boy wink grin

Oh yum to IKEA breakfast. We used to live 20 mins from the Croydon branch but DH hated going so I haven't been since DS was a baby sad I think Warrington is our nearest now. I'll have to take a day off and make a special trip out of it!

tired it's completely normal to be daunted, whichever number DC you're expecting. I haven't got there yet but when I do it's mostly about that newborn stage. I really don't know how to change a girl's nappy - there are all those folds and holes and things confused

tiredteddy Mon 10-Dec-12 13:48:27

Exciting about finding out guinea and it sounds like you are having a lovely day too. I have ds1 at home with a stinking cold so we are watching Harry Potter. wing yes I think its the thought a little of a girl being different and the feeding being different this time too. It'll be a new king of juggling to get used to with three I'm sure especially the school run. I am currently obsessing about choosing the right formula... Just can't quite bring myself to make a decisionblush.

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 13:57:36

I used Aptimal last time but I noticed the price last week in Sainsburys and it's over TEN QUID!! shock I remember it being pricey last time but I'm sure it was only £7ish.

To be fair, I'd probably go for the same again if bfing doesn't work (and with DH's feelings about bfing I don't have high hopes!).

tiredteddy Mon 10-Dec-12 14:09:22

Thanks. A lot of people have recommended Aptamil. But I read a thread on here saying that it's made in same factory as cow and gate I think. Also it said that the laws and everything about 0-6 month formula and so specific that there is very little difference between any of the brands to start with. Interesting but not very helpful either!

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 15:55:25

Oh yes I'm sure that's the case like a lot of the food we buy, eg own brand supermarket food is often made by big brands.

But although it's made in the same factory, you'll find that there will be differences. On one moneysavingexpert thread about this, it said that bread, so kingsmill (eg, can't remember), will be made out of a finer grade flour to the bog standard supermarket bread. And I imagine there will also be differences between formula milk.

But I'm not an expert! I also found the Cow & Gate cartons just a bit chavvy oops
It is completely up to you, my dear! grin

tiredteddy Mon 10-Dec-12 16:02:37

I know! I used Hipp organic for ds1 at 6 months plus when I went back to work. That doesn't seem so readily available these days. I hate the cow and gate adverts on tv the really wind me up too! Someone told me that Aptamil was smelly! Did you think so ?

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 16:07:49

Smelly? I don't remember it being smelly other than a freshly-cooked creamy milk smell!

You could buy a ready-made carton of each type of milk now and have a tasting session see what you think about them?

tiredteddy Mon 10-Dec-12 16:11:22

Ha ha about a tasting session. Think I will probably go for Aptamil I need to make the plunge and get on with it really. I think I also need to find out if I need to take bottles and milk in my hospital bag (which is down from the loft but as yet unpacked!) or not. I was meant to have a midwife appointment next weds but a letter came today with the date for my next consultant appointment at st George's next Wednesday. I'm pretty sure I can't do both and haven't seen my surgeon for over 6 months so that needs to take priority really. Must ring midwife too now.

StuckOnTopOfTheChristmasTree Mon 10-Dec-12 16:18:47

Ooh hello - have found the new thread!
Nothing much exciting going on here - half the decorations went up this weekend.
On the baby front things are very quiet now - worst of the sickness is all gone now, so wierdly am not feeling pregnant at all (to early to feel movements) - apart from the fact that today is the first time I am wearing 'maternity' trousers - and it is soooo comfy!!!

We will be using cow and gate or hipp buthoping to ebf till baby self weans.

Got the cutest hat ever today for £2.50 in the mothercare sale grin babys going home outfit is nearly done. Cant believe just over two months and its my edd!

tiredteddy Mon 10-Dec-12 18:23:24

Ooh I love baby hats something its all getting exciting now!

CuriouslyChristmassyColaHam Mon 10-Dec-12 18:57:24

wing changing a little girls nappy is out of my comfort zone too. Boys just seem easier. Does your dh have worries about breast feeding?

I introduced aptamil to ds at six months. I never had supply problems, but really struggled to express. The cartons were handy if I fancied an evening out. I smile chose it because I liked the look of it best.

Bit tmi but what do people reccomend for soaking up the ahem excess pant snot?

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Mon 10-Dec-12 22:00:15

A girl's nappy is actually easier than a boys because they don't immediately wee everywhere grin . They also generally toilet train earlier and easier too. I remember finding it a bit strange at first but after the first couple I'm sure you won't even notice.

Just interested to know what has made you both (Tired and Wing) decide to FF rather than BF?

Talking of girls im hoping this bump is pink but i wouldnt know what to do!

I remember when my DS weed on me than shat on DPs chest grin

guinea sorry if i missed it did you find out the flavour?

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 22:17:14

I don't remember DS being a big nappy-off wee-er actually. I had those little willy tent things but never really used them.

It's more the getting poo out of a girl's bits and holes that worries me. Boys' nappy changes I'd imagine are far quicker because you hold the willy and wipe all around and that's it. No double checking inside flaps and creases <boak>

Guinea my route to FF was slightly complicated but made up of the following non-inclusive list:
- DS born with v bad jaundice and was barely awake the first few days so lost 15% of birth weight due to not feeding
- DS went into hospital at 2 days old with jaundice. He was so sleepy/ill that he wasn't BFing well so I used their mad giant industrial pump but I remember never getting much milk out and so started topping up with aptimal
- back at home DS never seemed bothered about my boobs so it would take me a stupidly long time on each breast trying to feed him and then would top up
- it just didn't seem to work
- could never imagine a baby drinking from my boobs when pregnant (and having issues with that again now)
- DM and DH both not very supportive
- I had either very long and bad baby blues or else a shorter period of PND and the feeding situation wasn't helping

I kept mixed feeding until 7 or 8 weeks but he really wasn't drinking much and by then I decided myself to stop. Never looked back - I went back on the pill, felt like myself again (back to being ME), partially down to the control FFing gave me, and the hormones being regulated again. DS slept far better and is a highly intelligent boy who has barely been ill so I have never regretted it.

But I will try again this time round. I do suffer if I don't sleep well though so I may well try one FF mid-night a couple of weeks in for DH to help with a feed and I know he'd like that too.

Does it sound as if I've given up already?! confused

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Mon 10-Dec-12 22:37:45

Wow Wing that does sound like you had issues with BFing last time. I hope I didnt come across as challenging your right to FF, just interested in your 'path' to that decision (its actually one of the things I'm most interested in researching in my research career, if I ever have one).

Obviously there is talk about the benefits of BFing but very rarely about the risks associated with FFing so I'm interested in how women negotiate the choice and if their choices are 'informed' (and by that I only mean a balance of pros/cons of both possible options - not that you personally are not informed).

I do think FFing has become normalised in Western culture and one of the disadvantages of this is that there is less dialogue with parents about the possible side effects of formula, such that it is presented as a 'risk free' option when research suggests that this is not the case. I hope I'm not coming across as judgey. I FF DS for a number of reasons and had an equally long list, but I don't feel like I made a fully informed decision because nobody ever talked to me about FF and potential disadvantages.

tiredteddy Mon 10-Dec-12 22:44:18

Hi guinea I actually breastfed both my DS's very happily and easily for 6 months each. I am formula feeding this time as last year I had a double mastectomy due to being a carrier of the nasty BRCA1 breast cancer gene. All fine with decisions made now though it was a long journey. We always planned on another dc and did things this way round as it is unknown what effects pregnancy has with all the hormones on a brca1 carrier. So it's all new to me hence all my questions!

tiredteddy Mon 10-Dec-12 22:50:44

blush oops forgot to mention I had reconstructions and sport a very perky pair of DD's the gravity shall never alter wink and I am looking forward to DH doing a few of the night feeds too!

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 07:59:49

Ooh tired has had a boob job! grin

Guinea, I didn't think you were challenging me and in fact, I'm surprised my list came out quite so depressing!

MrsBri Tue 11-Dec-12 11:02:49

Morning all :-)

Had my scan today. Measuring 12+5 at 12+2, so a long little wriggler!

So relieved. I've been a bit worried, hence being quiet. Feel better now though.

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 11:31:12

Hurrah MrsBri!

That's great news smile So have they given you a new EDD and pushed it back 3 days?

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 11:35:50

Oh and Guinea I forgot to add to my list that I didn't have any skin-to-skin time after he was born: I was in shock as it was a relatively fast labour so just laid there puffing gas n air, DS's head was extremely misshapen due to stupid MW him getting stuck in my birth canal and me taking ages to get him out, so his head was like this and so he was wrapped up from the top of his pointy head to his toes and given to DH.

Now I think about it, I should have more residual issues about the birth and aftermath than I seem to in reality... hmm

What good news mrsbri and glad you are feeling better.

I think I have just hit total panic meltdown stage (thanks a bunch pg hormones angry. Basically, I have been a single mum to my DCs as exH was emotionally absent and/or having affairs/chasing me round the house trying to kill me the whole time I was pg with them, and physically left when my youngest was 4 months old. I simply cannot get my head around the fact that I am going to have to share the parenting with DH, even though one of the reasons we started TTC was so we could give our child the love and care of 2 parents (he was with his ex til his youngest was 4, but there were ongoing issues in their relationship such that he felt like a single dad much of the time) I have even started looking at flats to rent because I am so, so scared about what will happen. And I really don't know if I am scared that he will turn into the kind of monster that ExH became, or whether I am scared that he is going to be a totally different kind of parent to me. ExH has not been involved at all with my DCs, and so I have brought them up entirely myself, making all the parenting decisions, being the only one for hugs etc.

Am I being totally irrational? I have no idea where all this panic is coming from sad

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Tue 11-Dec-12 12:41:12

Hello all.

Waves I have been in a similar, Hough not the same, situation as you when I had DS. His dad didn't want to he involved at first and so I started as a single parent and in many ways it was easier (organisation, decision making etc). when me and DS moved in with DH it did take some adjusting to but it wasn't actually as bad as I had thought it might be. I think the other thing to bear in mind is that most people experience different parenting styles/opinions regardless of when they have children or have been parenting alone before. I know its easier said than done but try not to worry, I'm sure you will negotiate the transition together. Also pregnancy hormones make you crazy so remember no rash decisions! grin

Sorry to hear about your surgery (and the reason for it) Tired. Eternally perky DDs does sound like a good plus side though!

grin at pointy head Wing (sorry, I shouldn't laugh). Hopefully BFing will go better this time - I loved it the second time round and can't wait to start again.

Glad your scan was positive mrsbri and you're feeling a bit more settled with everything.

I also had my scan today. Bang on with the dates and baby looks great and is on the 50th percentile for everything which makes me think that she can't be my child
I did purposefully use she by the way, because we found out we are having a girl smile . Both DH and I are very happy, as will DD (not sure about DS but will sell it to him somehow!)

Just got 20 weeks to think of names now and with DH it really will take that long!

tiredteddy Tue 11-Dec-12 12:59:21

wing ds1 was a cone head too!

mrsbri congratulations on that long wriggly baby and all good news at your scan

waves I've never been in that situation. I'm sure it's just the crazy hormones. You decided to ttc or js together and it sounds like you and your DH have the same outlook of being involved and real parenting. So maybe just tell him how you feel and I bet he will reassure you.

guinea so three of us have found out and three are having girls! Did I get that right? How exciting. My DS's are still in the dark but say they want a DS, think its just what they are used to. Not long until we see for sure in jan. really glad all was good at you scan and average size sounds good too!

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 13:19:20

Ooh it's a girly thread!

waves it's perfectly understandable that you are freaking out at all this. We all have done/will do for various reasons. Please, please try to stay calm and talk to your DP about it as well.

I'm sure if the pre-pregnant you made the decision to TTC having thought about it all, it is the right thing to do. The thing to do now is to talk about the big parenting issues and make sure you both agree on how to do things in certain areas, or at least respect each other's points of view.

DH and I parent differently: he is the 'friend' whereas I am most definitely the discipliner (poor DS). Which means that I sometimes get frustrated because DS wraps DH around his little finger whereas I am quicker to nip things in the bud. One example, the other night DH was putting DS to bed who decided that he was going to hide under his duvet instead of getting undressed, brush teeth etc. DH was sitting by the bed practically pleading with DS to come out and get ready for bed, I went in, said "right, if you aren't going to get ready now then I'll turn the light out and we'll see you in the morning. Night night." (which DS never wants to do because he actually likes his bedtime routine) and pulled DH out of the room before turning the light of. One second later, DS had jumped out of bed and was getting undressed and it all went as normal from that.

It's a small example but DH does wind me up sometimes! But I'd never say that it affects our relationship or that our parenting skills don't compliment each other - if we were both 'friends' or both discipliners it would be a mess/awful for DS.

You can definitely work this out. I'm sure you love each other and talking about how you both brought up your children in those first few years will definitely help after the baby has grown up a bit. I bet most people in relationships never talk about it before the baby has arrived (we didn't really) so you'll have an advantage from day one! bear

ChildOfThe1980s Tue 11-Dec-12 17:19:03

Congrats on the scan MrsBri smile

I had my 16 week mw appt today, and it went really well- I heard baby's heart- nice and strong. Mw confirmed that last December (when bloods were done by my GP as part of pre-pregnancy checks) I was immune to Rubella. Now I'm not. Most annoying.

Also, I have been sick a couple times today and feel rough, so I think I have my 3rd tummy bug of the pregnancy.

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 17:45:41

So glad you had a good MW appt today Child smile

There is a horrendous sickness bug going around our village at the moment. Every family in our church has been hit and DH is now shivering in bed (but not sick - yet).

We are meant to be going out for a posh meal tomorrow night for my birthday and then I've got the day off on Thurs (my actual bday) and we were planning to go to the Trafford Centre as I've not been before but I bet I'm ill by then.

Boo hoo, woe is me - and you too Child sad

Right, DS is at his first ever sleepover tonight at a friend's house so I now need to decide what to make for tea for just lowly me.

MrsBri Tue 11-Dec-12 18:16:21

Thank you everyone :-) So much happier now. I'm a natural worrier, so although I haven't dwelt on it as such, I have had concerns (partly fuelled by things I've read on here).

And my date has moved forward 3 or 4 days, depending whose you use, but they haven't filled in that box on my green book, so maybe that will be after my next scan on 5th Feb.

Glad your appt went well, Child, and your scan, Guinea. And anyone I've missed on my phone.

Good luck to those with scans soon. :-)

MrsBri Tue 11-Dec-12 18:27:41

And that's a real bugger, Wing. Bloody stomach bugs :-(

But better now than Christmas? Maybe. Though it is rubbish your birthday's affected.

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 18:31:31

Thanks. I've been sitting here feeling very sorry for myself probably hormones too wondering what fun things DS will hopefully be up to and I haven't even made myself any tea yet because I can't be bothered. I could honestly cry definitely hormones then

Right. Must get food inside my stomach.

tiredteddy Tue 11-Dec-12 19:25:40

Make sure youbhave something yummy wing that you normally wouldn't have because your DH and DS wouldn't like it, then it will be a treat just for you!

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 20:00:35

I found some lamb in the freezer and made a curry. It was delish. I had another couple of portions left over so DH and DS can have some too at some point.

But if I wanted something just for me that they wouldn't eat? Hmm... I can't think of anything but I'd really have liked a proper home cooked lasagne with nice salad on the side and garlic bread. Oh well!

tiredteddy Tue 11-Dec-12 20:04:32

Shame you don't live down south as I do a mean lasagne! wink glad you had a nice dinner. I need to drag myself away from hobby city and put some dinner on for me and DH.

MrsBri Tue 11-Dec-12 20:19:09

We had celebratory curry tonight...nom nom. :-)

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 20:33:48

Nom nom all round!

I now feel bad talking about yummy curry and lasagne while poor DH is shivering upstairs in bed sad

tiredteddy Tue 11-Dec-12 20:40:31

Just ordered a curry! grin

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 20:47:12

Ooh what did you go for? I'm watching Masterchef to compound the foodie evening!

tiredteddy Tue 11-Dec-12 20:51:07

Chicken passanda, naan, special rice and some side dishes. Sharing with DH. I was nibbling the boys tea already so don't need a full take away!

ChildOfThe1980s Tue 11-Dec-12 21:49:59

Hope you don't get the bug, Wing. I am starting to feel better now. It's DS's nativity play tomorrow, and I don't want to miss that.

Had flu and whooping cough jabs today all o can say is ow!

Got my next scan on friday and midwife next wednesday have to see her every two weeks till 36 weeks then weekly!

Laying in bed im tired but i cant switch off

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 22:24:55

That sounded lovely tired.

Glad to hear you're feeling better Child. DH isn't well at all but doesn't seem able to be sick. He says he's not been sick from a tummy bug since he was in primary school sad I really don't want to catch it.

something, that sounds painful!

Well I'm now in DS's bed, about to try to sleep. Thank goodness he's at a sleepover tonight. This actually was my bed when I was his age till when I was a teenager! Hope I sleep okay in this room...

Night all.

Pineapple80 Wed 12-Dec-12 10:51:40

So glad to hear your scans went well something and mrsbri. I can imagine it is a relief and how exciting about having a little girl something!

I had my GP appointment yesterday over here & got bloods done again and have been referred to my chosen hospital. Have my 12 week and NT scan on Friday.

Hope everyone is feeling ok and not caught any of the bugs going around!

tiredteddy Wed 12-Dec-12 16:19:10

Hey pineapple the weeks are ticking by and nearly time for scans then, exciting!

We are just setting off to Kingston upon Thames to finish the Christmas shopping before the weekend. Yay grin

WingDefence Wed 12-Dec-12 16:27:37

I used to work in Kingston tired. I remember a really good sandwich place down a side street off the main shopping street. Can't remember what it was called hmm Hope the shops aren't too manic!

I'm not sure how to say this, because I am probably completely wide of the mark, but a lovely MNer nominated me for the MN Secret Santa thread and I don't know who did it (and part of me doesn't want to know else I'll get all embarrassed!) and I don't know why you did(!) but I just wanted to say Thank You so much for nominating me thanks

I received a lovely parcel from my Secret Santa (who isn't that secret actually, as she posted on the thank you thread with her real name!) and because I'm fed up at the moment (just had to cancel my meal out tonight but DH does seem a lot better tonight) I opened my gifts to find a madly generous Argos voucher for DS and some homemade jewellry for me.

I am feeling a bit overwhelmed really - I didn't know of the thread until after it had closed, otherwise I'd have nominated all of YOU lovely ladies for being kind and supportive and funny and wise and fabulous. But as I'm sure we'll all be chatting away this time next year on the Just Mumming thread, I hope you get to experience the warm fuzzy I Luff MN feelings I have right now for yourselves grin

tiredteddy Wed 12-Dec-12 16:32:51

Oh wow wing that is SO lovely! You deserve it I think, you are always kind, calm and warm with good advice! Enjoy x

Pineapple80 Wed 12-Dec-12 20:07:11

Oh that is lovely wing! Hope you got your shopping all done tired! We haven't even started ourselves but hopefully over the weekend smile


Erm, so it appears I'm back. In case I'm not remembered (how presumptuous to think people might remember me) I'm 25, one ds who is 15 months, missed miscarriage on 4 Oct at 11 weeks. We weren't trying again. I've been on the pill. A test tonight has come up a faint positive. (I started a fred about it in chat) I can't say i'm over the moon, quite annoyed really, but when I test tomorrow morning, if it's positive, i'll be posting in here again because you're all quite a lovely bunch of vipers.

WingDefence Wed 12-Dec-12 20:19:49

Thanks you two smile I've had a crap day and I'm feeling really down about my birthday tomorrow (ended up cancelling the posh meal we had booked tonight for it) and DS came home from seeing Fr Xmas with my DPs extremely upset so I'm on tenterhooks thinking he's going to be puking with this bug any minute now and with DH still fragile I'll be dealing with it, which would not be a great way to spend my birthday.

But I'm being silly, and selfish and hormonal. I had a crying fit at my parents because they wanted me to open something special my DM has knitted for me (she's amazing) tonight while they were here and I felt really under pressure after a horrible work day and the stress of DH being ill and disappointment of my birthday probably being crap and just everything is rubbish.

But enough about me and my upsets, I hope you've all had fab days whatever you've been up to biscuit

WingDefence Wed 12-Dec-12 20:21:12

Oh gosh, welcome frying! +-posted with you!

Fingers crossed its a proper Big Fat one tomorrow morning then grin

Ah Wing, It's so good to see things are going well for you! Not right now like, but still.

Part of me, a large part, is hoping tomorrow is a negative. I'll be sure to update just in case. After the miscarriage I hid the other thread, and i've missed hanging around. So even if it's a BFN, i'll still stalk. smile

Oh wow welcome back frying

wing happy pre birthday and lucky you on your secret santa!!

Btw im now having a girl that i know off maybe i got confused with Guinea?

Is anyone smaller with their second pregnancy?

Pineapple80 Thu 13-Dec-12 01:44:20

Oops sorry something, must have got confused about having a girl! wink

Hi frying! Hope everything works out for you whatever the outcome.

Big <hug> to wing, I hope you are alright and that you do have a nice birthday. Sending you Aussie birthday wishes as it's technically your birthday now over here grin!!

tiredteddy Thu 13-Dec-12 07:38:58

Morning all. Hi to frying sounds like a puzzling time for you, keep us updated there's lots of hands to hold here!

wing try not to be too down about you birthday, is it a milestone or just your hormones playing havoc? Could you rebook the posh meal for when DH is better? winewinewine non alcoholic of course!

I'm doing well with the shopping only my mum to sort out now, then all the wrapping. Going to see The Hobbit today with a dear friend while the boys are at school. It feels rather naughty!

Happy birthday Wing!

I took another test, same result. Apparently the odds of 2 faulty tests in the same box are slim to none. So looks like I belong here:-) kinda mixed feelings, we're both anxious but we'll be ok. Have decided to act pregnant, and test again next week. Just in case :-P

a girl something! That's wonderful, congratulations.

Tired - I'd love to see the Hobbit. I'm gonna see if I can get a baby sitter for ds and go see it soon.

WingDefence Thu 13-Dec-12 08:48:44

Thanks for your birthday wishes everyone. DH seems lots better thank goodness but DS is playing up and won't stop crying/wingeing which is completely unlike him so I think he can't feel well (even though he says he's fine) and I'm not sure I want to chance going to the Trafford Centre today. So tears from me too this morning I'm afraid and I've not felt in the mood at all to open any cards or presents yet.

In fact perhaps I'll just leave DH to deal with DS and I'll work today instead of taking it as annual leave. Might as well since it doesn't feel at all like a special day <sob>

WingDefence Thu 13-Dec-12 08:49:29

And frying, get yourself a CB digital pronto smile

CuriouslyChristmassyColaHam Thu 13-Dec-12 08:52:21

Hope today is a better day wing. Happy birthday!

frying have you had a negative result between October and now? Was the positive at the right time in your cycle? As you say it is very, very rare to get a false positive.

Aw wing i'm sorry today is being so rubbish for you. Maybe get your DH to take your DS for a while and have a long bath with a good book. Then, maybe you'll feel up to celebrating? Definately eat cake.

Hi curious yeah i did. I had the negative on 2 Nov so it's not because of the mmc. It's a whole new one. I get paid next week so i'll digi test then. I wish that this light bleeding would stop. It just seems like old blood (sorry, TMI) and there's been nothing new.

Just trying to get my head around having another baby.

CuriouslyChristmassyColaHam Thu 13-Dec-12 10:57:22

Just lost really long message.

There was lots of sympathy for you wing. frying sorry for all the questions. After my ectopic I get anxious about people waiting and seeing, but it makes sense in your case.

It's totally understandable. I just called the Early Preg. Unit at the hospital who said it probably wasn't a faulty batch, to test again in a week

CuriouslyChristmassyColaHam Thu 13-Dec-12 12:26:23

My hormones are horrendous today. Ds wouldn't eat his lunch and threw his blueberries all over the floor. I then banged my head on the table when I was picking them up. I cried my eyes out for about 5 minutes while ds looked confused. Full of the cold, so it's obviously making me a little sensitive smile

Persuasion Thu 13-Dec-12 16:57:08

wing sorry you're feeling rubbish. I second the previous suggestion of a bath and relax to make yourself feel better.

frying welcome back, even if you weren't expecting it.

I'm now 11+3, still horribly tired and sick. DH has work xmas do tonight, so will be late home. So my big dilemma is whether to nap when I get in, then do dinner, or dinner then nap (I want to be up when he gets home so I can collect from the station). It's a hard decision. I also have to decide what to have for dinner, but am strongly leaning towards hot buttered toast at the moment!

WingDefence Thu 13-Dec-12 17:31:47

Mmm hot buttered toast smile

Evening all. Well after DS was sent to bed (not in a naughty way) as he wouldn't stop crying this morning and had no breakfast, he spent a quiet hour in bed, had some toast and juice and by 10:30ish was fine and has been all day!

I'm obviously glad he hasn't come down yet with The Bug but DH and I wish we'd just put him into the car where he could have slept and headed to the Trafford Centre after all! Great thing, hindsight! Of course, at the time this morning there's no way we could have gone and taken the chance of an hour's journey each way potentially with a vomiting DS.

So we went out for a nice lunch, had a scenic drive back through the countryside (the frost is so thick up here and has been for a few days now that everything looks snowy), came back and I opened my cards & presents, had a nap and now I'm writing this to you lot grin

Amongst my presents, my DM knitted me a beautiful wool & alpaca maternity cream jumper which has big slits up the side and a cream ribbon tied on each side so you loosen the sides as you grow. It's thick and absolutely gorgeous and I've found a small pic of it here (isn't google fab). Absolutely stunning and goodness knows how long it took her and how much it must have cost her in posh wool smile

Right, off to decide what to have for tea.

WingDefence Thu 13-Dec-12 17:39:23

Here's a link to the pattern and a better picture of the jumper. One thing I remarked to DM was the lady on the front of the pattern is barely showing whereas when I tried it on today I've already had to let the bottom out a couple of inches! It looks much nicer in reality than it does in this pic too grin

tiredteddy Thu 13-Dec-12 17:47:46

So glad your day has improved wing and the jumper looks gorgeous! It's quite frosty here too very pretty. Am still being sick on and off and can now really only manage very small portions of food before the heartburn kicks in. Don't think Xmas dinner is going to be what I'm used too. Saw the Hobbit and I loved it! Ging out for drinks tonight with friends which will be nice just need to wake up a bit first!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Thu 13-Dec-12 20:42:23

Happy birthday Wing glad you've had a better day than you thought it might be. I love your jumper thinking of commissioning your mum to make me one

Glad you enjoyed The Hobbit Tired and hope you're awake enough for drinks smile

Just watched Tangled with DD on our girls night...DS and DH out for the night. DD is such a daddy's girl she went to sleep muttering 'daddy' over and over again! Hope this one is a mummys girl, as I'm currently somewhere below DH, DS and the childminder confused

Going to treat myself to a glass of wine , a super sized bag of minstrels and Grey's Anatomy. Hope you're all having a good night.

MrsBri Thu 13-Dec-12 21:04:02

Happy birthday, Wing...I'm so glad what looked like being a shitty day was actually rather lovely instead. :-) And what a lovely jumper too.

I've just finished off the online pre-Christmas Sainsbury's shop. I hope! Our flat will be rammed with party and snack food. Can't wait to eat myself into a food coma. And as I'll be in the second trimester, I have some 4% sparkling rose in the order, for if I fancy it just to toast Christmas. We shall see. I don't fancy alcohol at all right now, but it will wait if it has to!

Has anybody cooked goose before? A lovely local butcher is doing us a couple of breasts to save us buying an entire goose just for the 2 of us! Not entirely sure how to cook it nicely as we've not had it before, we just fancied something different.

Hope everyone is keeping nice and warm. It didn't get much above -5 in Birkenhead today. Brrrrrr.

Pineapple80 Fri 14-Dec-12 08:33:52

Morning all!

wing so glad to hear you had a good birthday in the end! And how lovely of your DM to make that sweater for you, beautiful!

Are you all feeling a bit better? Sounds like a mix of colds going around and pg related sickness.

I had my 12 week scan today which included the NT testing. All looks well which we are so pleased about. My bloods for NT are still yet to come back though but the measurement we are told is looking fine too. The scan was in a lot of detail and got baby to flip of over for us and saw heart, brain, limbs, face & waving hands! It was amazing and I got it all on DVD as well which I have watched twice already since coming home grin. Feeling really happy right now.

Have been out shopping for house things, which has been fun. Next task is for us to look for work so we can pay for it all!! Hopefully I can find something to pay the mortgage until baby comes along next year.

It really doesn't feel Christmassy for DH and I right now!! We did enjoy the cold festive feeling in the UK. Is everyone set with Xmas shopping now or still more to go?

Have a great Friday all and take care smile

Pineapple80 Fri 14-Dec-12 08:37:03

Mrsbri - I have only cooked a whole goose! I assume breasts wouldn't need cooking for long. Sounds lovely though - what will you cook to go along with it? I love to hear about all things food/cooking related grin

WingDefence Fri 14-Dec-12 09:26:44

Thanks all for the birthday wishes smile

MrsBri I'm scared that apparently it's only 11 sleeps till Christmas and I've not done half my Christmas shopping yet, neither food nor presents and have a full weekend of activites planned (i.e. no time for shopping) so I'm starting to stress just a little bit. I did a big xmas online shop last year but I may just head to the supermarket in person this time round.

We will be having goose on Xmas day as DH prefers it but I have no idea how you cook it. Google is your friend though!

Pineapple that's fantastic that you had a great scan and I'm very envy that you got a DVD too! I can imagine it doesn't feel Christmassy at all over there. I visited Oz back in 1999 (goodness I feel so old now) in the New Year and I remember seeing Christmas trees everywhere and it was just a bit odd, especially when cards etc still had robins and snowy scenes on them.

It looks like it all kicked off at my work yesterday so instead of getting my big project finished today it'll be hopefully probably better be Monday now.

Right, I've already done 45 mins work and i'm still in my pyjamas so next on my To Do list is to whack Mariah up LOUD and dance around my bedroom while I get dressed grin

MrsBri Fri 14-Dec-12 09:30:28

Your scan sounds amazing, pineapple :-)

Good luck on the job hunt.

It'll be usual Christmas trimmings, so loads of veg, stuffing, pigs in blankets etc. Can't wait! :-) Oh, and roast potatoes cooked in goose fat. Almost drooling thinking about it!

WingDefence Fri 14-Dec-12 09:41:05

I had a Christmas Turkey dinner yesterday lunchtime when we went out and it was brilliant. Got another one next Wednesday when I head down to London for my team xmas lunch and then next Saturday when we have my parents round for an early Christmas day.

I love turkey, but I'll be happy to have goose this year if I ever get round to buying the thing!

And yes, pineapple I second the best wishes on the job hunt. What will you be looking for?

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Fri 14-Dec-12 15:03:31

That Mariah Carey song was playing when DD was born Wing it always brings back good memories.

We are going out to a local pub for a proper Christmas dinner on Christmas eve, so looking forward to it. Going to do a standard Sunday lunch on Christmas day as its just us four for the first time ever which is going to be wonderful.

The weather has turned from being cold but dry to persistant rain. It is so unpleasant. Going to take the kids to soft play for a runaround and tea when I've collected DS from school. Feel shattered and a bit grumpy today, hormones have got a lot to answer for.

MrsBri Fri 14-Dec-12 16:37:36

I'm amazed that I'm relatively organised, Wing, except when it comes to sending the cards. I've failed somewhat there!

But I'm going the 170 miles home tonight to deliver presents, so I had extra focus as this was my only chance to deliver them as we aren't seeing my family at Christmas.

And we are telling my mum and dad tomorrow as we haven't seen them since the day after the wedding, which was a touch early.

Apparently I can do goose breasts like duck, so start them on the hob and finish them in the oven. Sounds like a plan. Hopefully the flavour is ducky too.

Guinea, I'm often grumpy :-/ Pregnancy hasn't exactly brought out the best in me!

tiredteddy Fri 14-Dec-12 18:35:29

Exciting to be telling your parents mrsbri and well done with the organisation. I've never had goose before, let us know what it's like ?

guinea grumpy=hormones! Hot chocolate to make it better? I like the sound of soft play I should have thought of that for the boys as that is how they are treating the front room anyway blush

wing how's DH today? And DS?

pineapple good luck for the job hunt! The scan you had sounds just lovely!

Just posted a long reply, but for some reason it didn't stick.

I've realised i'm excited about possibly having another baby. I can't tell DH because he's more cautious than I am about it all. I don't know how i will feel if the tests were a faulty batch, i'm scared about going through it all again, but would love to have another child.

This week is gonna drag! I called the DR who said they don't do blood tests, they'd just do another urine sample, which doesn't help me at all, but nevermind

tiredteddy Fri 14-Dec-12 19:01:37

frying keep busy and maybe it will go quicker. Have you done one of those digital tests?

Yeah i did. Confusingly, it said not pregnant. Clear as mud. The early preg unit at hospital said they weren't as sensitive as first response. So will take another one in a couple of days

tiredteddy Fri 14-Dec-12 19:51:51

Oh that does sound confusing! Yes wait a few days and try again. Fingers crossed for you smile

This might help first response tests tend to pick up 10-12mlu of hcg. Clearblue digi only tend to pick up 50mlu+.

Had my 30 week scan today! Baby is well but breech. Had their hands and feet over their face and were sucking their leg. Roughly weighing 3lbs 3oz

Thank you!

Something that's so lovely :-) I remember when you told us back on the just shaggers thread you were pregnant. I'm getting all emotional now smile

Today i'm at work. It isn't fun. Sometimes working in a call centre sucks. Some of the calls i've had today are:

"I'm not happy you delivered at 7.15am, when you said my delivery slot is 7-11. You should have said 7.15 - 11" hmm

"you've really messed me around. I need my blah blah (honestly, something stupid like wine cooler) today because i'm disabled"

On the other hand, i've bought my son (15 months) a gruffalo trunki for when we go to Saudi in January. I know he's a little young, but it's lovely. So i did it

WingDefence Sat 15-Dec-12 20:10:58

A Gruffalo trunki sounds fab!

I've been at the Manchester Christmas Markets all day - they were amazing! I'm shattered now though - 6 hours of walking/standing with a quick half hour sit-down in the M&S cafe. I shall ache soon! DS was brilliant - he walked and stood exactly as long as we did and didn't moan once. Treats at certain times helped grin

Managed to catch up on some Xmas shopping for DH too in the Arndale Centre. For those of you in the NW you must go to the markets before they shut on the 23rd! The one in front of the Town hall and the French and German markets were my fave.

Right, before I fall asleep on the sofa, I'd better go and hide DH's presents and then get on with typesetting the church notices for the morning. Yawn

WingDefence Sat 15-Dec-12 20:13:19

Oh and those call centre customers sound terrible Flying. I worked in a bank when I was a student, answering calls from 'customers' and the stick I'd get from some people was amazing. Now if I'm wee upset with a company and have to call customer services, even if I'm spitting with anger I'll always say repeatedly that it's not the person in the call centre's fault when I'm ranting at them blush

WingDefence Sat 15-Dec-12 20:14:26

I have no idea where that cheeky 'wee' crept in my post above! confused

ChildOfThe1980s Sat 15-Dec-12 21:08:18

Frying hope you get a clear answer soon. It is hard to be pregnant so soon after a mc, but there's absolutely no reason why this baby (if you are pregnant) wouldn't be healthy. Were you planning on waiting a while before trying again?

Went to winter wonderland in hyde park today. It was crap. 2 hour wait to see santa?!

Ended up walking all over london pretty much! Had some nandos and got high speed home. Im knackered! My parents have invited us to lunch tomorrow and then are having DS for a bit yay grin

Pineapple80 Sat 15-Dec-12 22:05:10

something how lovely about your scan and baby sucking away at leg smile. Pity Winter Wonderland was a disappointment! DH and I wanted to go before we left London but ran out of time. We usually go every year and love it but noticed it had become increasingly busier each

Very jealous hearing about Christmas markets etc! No such thing in Oz plus it's not the same being summer and all.

More house stuff shopping for us today.

tiredteddy Sat 15-Dec-12 22:57:01

Oh no DS1 just been sick. I thought we'd avoided this bug!

WingDefence Sun 16-Dec-12 08:47:37

Enjoy your Sunday lunch something!

Oh no tired - how has your DS been overnight? I'm still expecting The Bug to come back and bite us any day... Keep his fluids up if you can sad

tiredteddy Sun 16-Dec-12 21:40:07

Few I think we escaped the bug after all. No more sick and then he admitted that when we had friends round on Saturday lunchtime he consumed 5 Mr Kipling apple pies which are very sugary and rich. It was just greed I think! Lesson learnt. shockconfusedblush

WingDefence Mon 17-Dec-12 11:14:48

Phew tired!!

How are you all today? I'm chucking down here and is cold to boot. Great! hmm

There are three churches in our village and it was the united Christmas carol service last night. So lovely and xmassy smile I was in the joint choir, belting out the descants on the carols!

Did anyone watch SPOTY? Gosh wasn't it boring. I remember in years past I used to always look forward to it because it was on or around my birthday and they used to have funny bits e.g. I'm sure one year they had Steve Redgrave and his team-mates racing on rowing machines. Now it's so boring and they went on for far too long about the Olympics. Grumble grumble wink

I voted for Wiggo though so was very happy to see him win!

Right, better get on. My big project is MEANT to be being released today (it was supposed to be last Friday) and I have some last minute bits to do so why I am on MN?

flyingsprocket Mon 17-Dec-12 13:59:07

I watched SPOTY but mostly on fast forward. Hormones meant that I cried at most of the Olympic stuff & at the roll call of sports people who had passed away this year.

I agree it was nowhere near as interesting as previous years. Delighted wiggo won though! Did you see his wife's face when she realised he had to ankle another speech?!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Mon 17-Dec-12 14:00:55

Glad you managed to avoid the bug Tired - we thought we might have it in our house again last night as DD started being sick in the night. It was really strange though, not quite the violent sickiness of a bug and she was fine this morning I, however, am shattered due to sleeping in DDs bed who is incredibly fidgety!

Hope your launch goes well Wing and is not too stressful. I have been writing so far today day (story of my life) but have finished early to come and watch DS in his school nativity play. Then we've got to dash off to get him to a hospital appt - not sure how whether we'll manage it but ho hum.

I bought a pushchair for miniGuinea the other day. A M&P Mylo on plum pudding and raspberry ripple (very posh sounding isn't it!). They are on sale atm but looked on eBay before buying brand new and have managed to get one for £150 and they are nearly £600 new. It is in an amazing condition and I love finding bargains. Am wondering if I can persuade DD to go in it to try it out, not holding out much hope on that one though grin .

Ooo and in other news, I realised on Saturday that we haven't received child benefit since July shock , rang them up today and they had made a mistake processing our change of bank details so they are going to repay it within 9 days. An extra £650+ for baby shopping savings, yippee!

WingDefence Mon 17-Dec-12 15:26:35

Wow that's a nice bonus just before xmas Guinea!

Project thingy has been finalised... smile Not seen any evidence of it having been launched though... angry so can't relax just yet. Have eaten a large slice of rocky road though biscuit

Flying, yes Mrs Wiggo looked properly embarrassed! Have I told you lot before that he cycles around our area and comes to our village cafe?! I've not seen him yet though.

tiredteddy Mon 17-Dec-12 15:52:14

Glad the project is finalised wing let us know when it's launched so we can toast you with online wine wine!

Ooh happy shopping guinea what do you plan to get?

It was ds2 nativity this morning he was a very wriggly and cute little shepherd. Mum and dad came to watch too which was nice as they've been very reclusive since her op. my boys are out for tea so I am wrapping presents and watching crap daytime tv!

Hello everyone!

Well, another test taken and I'm not pregnant! Kinda mixed emotions, but the overriding one is relief. We're gonna talk again about having another baby in a few months, but we're both happy it's not happening.

tiredteddy Mon 17-Dec-12 19:18:46

So did you think it was a chemical pregnancy then frying I'm glad that you are ok with the result you have and can plan when you do want ttc now.

Sorry to heart that frying but am glad your happy .

My DS took his first steps tonight!! Growing up to fast!!

I don't know tired to be honest. Quite possibly.

Ah something that's so cute! How old is he? Mine is 15 months and will walk holding your hand, but the minute you let go he just sits down. It's really irritating

Hes 11 months on christmas day it was a bit of a mad dash but he will get there grin

WingDefence Mon 17-Dec-12 21:39:08

Oh gosh frying I'm sorry I didn't see this earlier. I'm obviously glad that you're happy with the result but I'm sekretly gutted that you won't be staying on this fred thanks and wine for you!

something congrats! Life will never be the same again grin

Well it looks like, in a massive anti-climax, my work was finalised and the hundreds of emails lined up in the system to go out overnight but I don't know whether they have as it's still not showing on my organisation's website (well, an incorrect version is which I am furious about but that's a WHOLE other story).

But I am taking tomorrow off for last bits of Xmas present shopping so I shall ignore all work rubbish for the day!

FrustratedSycamoreSnowflake Tue 18-Dec-12 14:10:56

Ooh shiny new Fred.

tiredteddy Tue 18-Dec-12 17:07:42

How was the shopping wing ?
Hi frustrated how are you?

I'm feeling rather sorry for myself. My hips/pelvis/pelvic floor are agony. Midwife said don't stand for too long or walk too far. That's impossible when DH needs the car and the boys need to go to school. It's a mile each way so 4 miles in total for the school run and I'm paying for it now sad

FrustratedSycamoreSnowflake Tue 18-Dec-12 19:23:04

Hi tired (and everyone else)
I'm okay, ms seems to be eventually passing (well the nausea has). Fx the bug has passed you by.

Hands and ankles are swelling have right rib pain and a headache. Keep going very dizzy to. Thankfully have mw tomorrow and just pray my bp and urine are ok

WingDefence Wed 19-Dec-12 08:55:09

Oh gosh you poor ill ladies sad

Well I think I'm on borrowed time re the sickness bug. We had a nativity in the pub last night (it was fab) and my friend who played guitar while I sang a song has had it all night so I'm stuffed! We're meant to be having an early Xmas day with my parents on Saturday so I'm praying I'm okay for that and Xmas day itself.

tired you will end up on crutches or bedridden if you're not careful. Can family or friends do the school run for you or give you a lift? It's not for long is it?

I'm on the train down to London for my Xmas party today. Should be fun even if I'm not drinking and am on the early 17:30 train home tonight!

FrustratedSycamoreSnowflake Wed 19-Dec-12 09:50:05

Is it normal to have quite painful twinges if you've overdone things?
I over dif things a bit yesterday, so has a bit of round ligament pain last night and this morning, (and a little bit like trapped wind).
This morning I fell over in the mud carrying dc. (2hrs ago)

For the past half an hour or so, I've had a few twinges, that I can only compare to braxton hicks (but bump not going hard) or severe trapped wind. They are strong enough to make me stop what I'm doing.

What do you reckon?


ChildOfThe1980s Wed 19-Dec-12 10:49:42

Frustrated I am 17+1 and have been noticing how I can't do as much walking any more (like Christmas shopping yesterday) without getting some pain and discomfort for a couple of hours afterwards. It's really annoying, but I haven't had to stop what I'm doing or anything.

Take care of yourself, and give your mw a call if you are at all worried.

So no protein and my bp is good yay smile she doesnt know where the baby is lying but at my last scan they were breech. If they dont turn i will have to have an elcs and only allowed to go a week overdue. Fundal height hasnt changed in 2 weeks

tiredteddy Wed 19-Dec-12 19:50:18

I've written a post twice and it's not loaded up angry

something I'm glad your check up went well and that you are doing ok.

frustrated I agree with child get checked if you are worried. I think our bodies let us know when we have overdone things.

wing I'm feeling much better today thanks for the advice. 2 days left until school hols and I'll have the car. It's annoying as I much prefer walking to school with the boys.

I spent the day going up to St George's for a check up. Got inflated a bit too to even out my size wink and had some photos taken (topless! The closest i'll ever come to modelling) my consultant is very pleased with his work and uses the pics as teaching aids for medical students. It makes me giggle to think that students in London have seen my boobs blushgrin

Ah just occured to me i have 10 weeks 6 days left at the most!!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Thu 20-Dec-12 09:56:04

grin Tired - glad you're feeling better. We've I've been really lazy this week and have driven to school every day. It's not the walking there that bothers me, more the walking back up hill on my own - it seems such a trudge. After my op I had to have photos of my incision done and had to be photographed with no pants on - my surgeon is quite dishy and my nether regions really weren't 'tidy', I was soo blush

DH found out this morning that he got the job he interviewed for recently ... hurray! Think I might cook him a nice meal or get a takeaway to celebrate.

Hope everyone else's aches and pains have eased. I certainly know when I've overdone it but I'm not sure anybody gets through pregnancy without some niggles, occupational hazard of motherhood I suppose.

Right...must get on with some work. I have a chapter to finish and send before the end of the day. If you see me on MN SHOUT at me!

wavesandsmilesatSanta Thu 20-Dec-12 12:51:51

Hello everyone - been quiet for a while as I am suffering with pretty bad sickness and fainting. Bleurgh. Just keep holding onto the fact that lots of symptoms are a positive sign! Also very relieved that I am currently on annual leave - a whole 3 weeks of not having to disguise the nausea/vomiting/blacking out. Fingers are crossed that things will have calmed down by the time I return in January.

I am all booked in with the midwife, who is now referring me for the scan - hoping that will be early January, then we can share the news if all is well. DH is struggling a bit - he lost his first son at 38 weeks, and the booking in appt was on the same ward. I am giving him space today, and he is grouting the bathroom at the moment, whilst I attempt cleaning and gift-wrapping whilst making the odd dash to the toilet blush

Hope everyone is a little more ready for Christmas than I am!

WingDefence Thu 20-Dec-12 17:38:33

Hi all - you poor thing waves. Are you actually Kate Middleton in disguise? Actually, she has to do a lot of waving and smiling... hmm grin

Well done guinea's DH and woo hoo to tired getting her boobs out for the lads

I'm getting twinges too and in fact was woking up by a sharp stabbing pain in my side (not MiniWing kicking) which was not pleasant.

I've been working today half-heartedly and went for a lovely 2-hour xmas meal with DH and my DPs in our village cafe. I am stuffed now though as I have eaten a lot these last two days smile

Xmas present shopping done now, food shopping to do on Saturday (which I am dreading).

tiredteddy Thu 20-Dec-12 20:21:27

Oh waves that sounds really rotten poor you. I hope it eases off soon. Have they given you anything for the sickness?

wing I'm jealous of you eating a lot as I seem to have no capacity left for food at all. Little bit at a time is all I can manage.

guine I really chuckled reading you last post about your photos too! grinHow's the work going?

I'm trying desperately to pack as we actually go away tomorrow for Christmas. We are staying in a pretty oast house I. Kent with DH parents. Presents are sorted bit of wrapping left to do. I'll be slinging clothes in bags while the boys are at school tomorrow morning. DH was lovely today and came home with some new slippers for me as I've been wearing ds2's because mine are worn out.

WingDefence Thu 20-Dec-12 20:32:47

Well tired I'm eating it, but goodness me I woke up with indigestion last night (after the stabbing pain)! Good job I bought some Gaviscon at the weekend but I'm trying to save it for Xmas grin

Anyone else watching Emmerdale...?

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Thu 20-Dec-12 22:14:56

I'm catching up on Strictly from three weeks ago.

I've only just started being able to eat any sort of adult sized meal. I'm trying to make the most of it over Christmas as I LOVE Christmas dinner and I know it won't last long. Feeling for you Tired but just think you're going to have a baby soon and its so exciting (sorry am a little giddy and over excited about imminent baby arrivals - my friend is due in January and I can't wait!)

Never had indigestion before so this a new 'pleasure' for me. Seems to be chocolate that brings it on angry , such a shame I had a craving for Dairy Milk tonight.

MrsBri Thu 20-Dec-12 22:22:33

Evening all!

I'm having a bad evening...Sainsbury's just failed to deliver our Christmas food :-( The driver went to the wrong place and they tried to blame me for not answering the phone (I did, but nobody spoke after.numerous hellos) and then not answering the door.

There's actually a note on file about where we are too, which he ignored.

I'm stressed and annoyed. :-(


Pineapple80 Fri 21-Dec-12 06:47:27

Hi Ladies! Hope you're all ready and prepared for Christmas.

mrsbri - ahh what a disaster about your groceries! Did they end up delivering or do u have to go out to get it all now?

waves - hope you are feeling better soon. Along with everyone else not feeling too good lately...

something - 10 weeks! Wow not long to go at all, so exiting smile.

Well I have been keeping a bit low this week because I got my Nuchal blood results back Tues and when combined with the measurements etc my risk for baby having Down Syndrome was 1:23. The tri18 risk was also quite high. We were shocked as the measurements were good and there was a nasal bone seen on baby scan. I'm also 32... My GP dis say it was my Papp-A levels that were very low which put my risk right up there.

Anyway to cut long story short, we decided on doing CVS as it was important for us to know. We got the results today and its all clear! It's a relief and glad baby is ok.

Wishing you and your families a safe and merry Christmas x

tiredteddy Fri 21-Dec-12 07:05:48

Oh pineapple what a relief for you. Very glad everything is ok. Not surprised you were worried and laying low.

mrsbri what happened next with the shopping? A re-delivery or do you have to go and do it.

Last day of school today, hooray!

MrsBri Fri 21-Dec-12 07:20:00

Oh, thank goodness it's all ok, pineapple. What a relief.

And I'm getting a call at 8.30 this morning from the online team to find out what we can do. If they can't redeliver I'll be even more angry than I am now! I don't appreciate being called a liar. No matter how many times I said the bloke went to the wrong place, he just kept repeating that he had been. Sigh!

We shall see what happens next, but I've already lodged my complaint with the online team rather than just leave the branch to deal with it.

Keep feeling a bit non pregnant this week as I'm in that limbo period where I'm feeling better but can't feel baby. It's odd!

My bump and boobs are MAHOOSIVE though. Not sure why bump is as I'm only 14 weeks! No subtlety here :-/

StuckOnTopOfTheChristmasTree Fri 21-Dec-12 07:20:17

Pineapple - so glad it turned out ok in the end... Must have been a stressful few days

Mrs Bri - you'd expect better from sainsburys, hope you've got your groceries now...

Guineapigs - can't wait for Xmas dinner either as well, glad it's traditionally a daytime meal because I'd miss out if it was evening as that's when I can't eat anymore!

Tired - sounds like a nice break, hope you can put your feet up on your new slippers!

And a big wave to everyone else... On my mobile and can't see much more on my screen! Last day at work and I can't wait for it to be over... Am so ready for a break! Still got some present and food shopping to do but am hoping (could be being a bit naive here) that it won't be too bad...
At least we cheat here and go out for the main Xmas meal and I don't need to worry about that!

Pineapple80 Fri 21-Dec-12 08:22:22

Thanks all, it is a relief and really relaxing now smile.

Stuck - have a good last day of work!

MrsBri - hope your shopping gets sorted today then! How annoying and talk about bad timing to stuff things up! Great to hear you're feeling better. I am also feeling a lot better these days, only very occasionally feeling sick after a meal but am mostly well now.

Have a good Friday all

MrsBri Fri 21-Dec-12 08:41:54

Shopping is coming between 6 and 7 tonight. Thank god! :-)

Bloke was nice as pie...I imagine he had been told to just sort it.

Have you had any luck finding work yet, pineapple?

WingDefence Fri 21-Dec-12 09:13:43

Oh NO MrsBri! angry But yay that is has got sorted!

We had Sainsburys deliver last year but I remember the site kept crashing when I was finalising the shop and it took me two hours to do. It was so stressful I'm just going super early tomorrow instead and doing it in person.

Pineapple, how stressful for you, but I'm so glad everything is okay. Although I should say that having a Downs child, whilst it can be a shock, can be a lovely rewarding thing too and not the end of the world IYKWIM. One of my friends has a lovely Downs boy who is coming up to 2 and it hadn't been diagnosed so it was a massive shock for her but now of course she wouldn't change him for the world! smile

Last day at work for me too for 2 weeks hurrah! I'm not sure what I have to do today so hopefully I'll get some admin done (yawn) and perhaps some present wrapping too smile

Stay warm and comfy all!

Pineapple80 Fri 21-Dec-12 09:16:22

Hooray MrsBri! grin

I am waiting to hear back from my former boss actually. I met with them earlier this week and they indicated there may be work available in the new year. Fingers crossed! It'll be tricky if if I do get work as i will have to tell them I'm pregnant almost straight away. I haven't even had an offer yet so I'll deal with that when and if it happens! Have you told your colleagues at your work yet MrsBri?

MrsBri Fri 21-Dec-12 12:09:50

Ooh...good luck!

I've just been told that my training contract (to become a solicitor) starts on 14th Jan :-) Good to get a start date and some certainty. Just had to email the training principal to tell him the news so he can plan when certain things happen, so his response will be interesting.

Most people do know, yes, though I haven't broadcast it. I've ballooned so much that hiding it is impossible!

Pineapple80 Fri 21-Dec-12 12:49:52

Oh excellent MrsBri!

Argh I'm not even showing!! My jeans are a teeny bit tight lately but keep looking in the mirror for signs of a bump every day! Ha ha grin. I can't wait to have something to show!

WingDefence Fri 21-Dec-12 13:04:49

Brilliant news you two grin

I'm massive already. The part-time midwife I know (who also runs our village cafe) told me I looked about 6-8 weeks further gone than I am so I'm paranoid about it now sad but there isn't anything I can do. Apart from this past week or so I've not been pigging out and eating tons doesn't affect the size of the baby bump so who knows if/why I'm larger than normal. I haven't got a MW appt until after the new year. In fact, that reminds me, I should probably try to book it right now...

WingDefence Fri 21-Dec-12 13:16:21

I say 'already' but I'm 25 weeks tomorrow so I should be showing by now anyway! grin

Just tried to book my 28wk MW appt for w/c 14th Jan but they are puting in a new computer system and can't book past the 7th Jan. The receptionist told me to call back in the first week of Jan when I know it will be chaos as there will be the inevitable 'teething problems' no doubt

MrsBri Fri 21-Dec-12 17:56:31

I am massive, ridiculously so :-/ It's a nice neat front bump though, but still not normal at 14 weeks!

I'm probably as many weeks ahead as you.

Even my boss - female - commented on the size of my boobs today too. They're making an impression!

So glad it's the weekend. Only got to get my hair cut and view a house (3 x beds / 2 x reception / conservatory) tomorrow. Rather excited about the house...would be perfect if it is nice. Bit of a shock after a 2 bed flat. In a good way :-)

What's everyone else up to?

tiredteddy Fri 21-Dec-12 18:10:59

Well nine if you can be as big as me as I'm 36 weeks now! grin Measuring spot on for dates. We have just stopped at waitrose fir supplies then 10 mins further we will be at our holiday cottage for Xmas. The car is rammed full I can only just see the boys in the back, they are almost buried under duvets etc.

tiredteddy Fri 21-Dec-12 18:11:26

none of course!

WingDefence Fri 21-Dec-12 20:02:44

Oh have a lovely time at the oast house tired! My family are all originally from Kent (don't ask me if they are Men of Kent or Kentish Men though!) smile

I'll be off to the Sainsburys superstore early (7am) in the morning to do our food shopping although thankfully we have a lot of it already. Argh! confused

Pineapple80 Fri 21-Dec-12 21:38:31

Have a great time tired!!! And hope shopping isn't too stressful wing grin

Just a quiet weekend for us here. It's going to be very warm 30C + over Sat/Sun! wink

tiredteddy Sat 22-Dec-12 17:44:06

Thanks everyone! grin Its beautiful here. But raining of course like the rest of England. We've hit sainsburys early today si food shopping done. Now it's DVD and present wrapping time.

WingDefence Sat 22-Dec-12 18:17:41

Pineapple envy You lucky thing!

It's been chucking it down today so we've had a quiet one (after an actually very pleasant and civilised food shop this morning). DH and DS made yummy mince pies earlier and we went to the village cafe for a lazy lunch with friends.

DS had a free Christmas phone call from Mickey Mouse this afternoon which he loved. Mickey told him that he'd seen Santa and he was on the good list and he was so chuffed - it was wonderful!

If you've got DCs already who like Mickey Mouse, there are loads of time slots left (you book it for a 15-min slot and ours came dead on 4pm) and I thoroughly recommend it! grin

WingDefence Sun 23-Dec-12 20:05:39

Evening all!

Right, DS has just gone down to bed (singing away though) so I'm going to have to try to get DH's pressies wrapped extra-speedily while he's at church tonight... Hang on, car outside... Phew, tis next-door neighbour!

Right, I'd better get on. Hope you've all had lovely days and aren't running around too much (if you can <eyes tired in particular> smile

tiredteddy Sun 23-Dec-12 20:14:00

Nope, no running around at all thanks wing! I had a 2hr nap yesterday lunchtime and a lie in this morning until 9.45 so feeling well rested for a change. We went for a nice wander around Canterbury this afternoon it was very pretty. Just about to tuck into shepherds pie for dinner, yummy. Happy wrapping x

WingDefence Sun 23-Dec-12 22:09:09

I had a two hour nap too today! And DS had an afternoon nap - first time in over a year probably that he's napped in his bed and not (say) when we've been driving.

Unfortunately that meant that he's been up and down from his room until 9:25 which is completely unheard of but we think he's asleep now, finally!

I got every pressie wrapped for DH bar one so I banned him from the lounge until I'd done that last one!

Night all smile

Persuasion Mon 24-Dec-12 18:06:35

Happy christmas for tomorrow (when I'll be absorbed in cooking a massive duck and watching crap TV)!

Had my dating scan today, I'm 12+5, and baby is fine and wiggly! It's actually starting to sink in that I really am pregnant!

tiredteddy Mon 24-Dec-12 18:11:05

Yay persuasion especially lovely on Xmas eve. X

WingDefence Mon 24-Dec-12 18:32:46

Oh that's great news Persuasion!

Well DS is in bed after a nice bath, new pjs and dressing gown, milk and a mince pie out for Fr Xmas and 'reindeer food' (oats and glitter) on the path. After he got up and down for a couple of hours last night, it does appear to be all quiet at the moment...

I'm planning on not coming online at all tomorrow so I wish you all an extremely Happy Christmas, free from stresses and strains. grin

tiredteddy Mon 24-Dec-12 18:58:18

Sounds like your evening is going very well wing we ate about to have supper. Then the boys will watch the Snowman and the Snowdog, then off to bed!

Merry Christmas to everyone for tomorrow! Love to all my mumsnet friends!

CuriouslyChristmassyColaHam Mon 24-Dec-12 21:02:13

Hope everyone has a lovely Christmas and a fabulous new year. X

Pineapple80 Tue 25-Dec-12 04:16:36

Merry Christmas to you all and your families all the way from Oz! Have a great day grin x

FrustratedSycamoreSnowflake Tue 25-Dec-12 16:46:37

Happy Christmas

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Tue 25-Dec-12 18:31:58

Taking a moment to MN and wish everyone a very merry Christmas.

Great to have a lovely scan on Christmas eve Persuasion glad its starting to feel a bit more real.

We too did new PJs and drink for Santa last night. Both DCs were so excited it was a bit later than usual but at least they slept well.

It's been a successful Christmas here it seems, though DD keeps asking for more presents!

Hope to catch up with you all tomorrow for Christmas drama updates. Am now going to stare at DHs bottle of port longingly and munch a huge box of Thorntons whilst watching Room on the Broom. I love Christmas smile

WingDefence Wed 26-Dec-12 19:54:35

Evening all!

Hope you've had lovely Christmas smile

We're heading down to London early tomorrow morning to catch up with friends and family although plans are a bit fluid as my uncle is seriously, terminally ill with cancer and everyone is taking each day as it comes. He just wanted to make Christmas this year sad and we are hoping to see him on Friday afternoon. I am under no illusions that it is going to be horrible but I cannot not see him. I mean, it must be far worse for him and my auntie/cousins so why should I be selfish and not see him?

We were going to be down there for DS's birthday on Sunday but due to issues with my brother various reasons, we are now driving back on Saturday late evening with DS in his PJs and so will be home for it. I must get him a birthday card!

Aaaaanyway, I am also staring at DH's large glass of wine while I munch the last few of my box of maltesers. I did treat myself to a nice glass of red yesterday with lunch but that really does mean I can't have another one as much as I'd like to.

Apart from tired, does anyone else just completely forget that they are pregnant a lot of the time? I do! blush Even though I am in full-on maternity clothes and hoovering on Xmas Eve was actually quite painful in a ligament-stretching way! I really could neck a load of wine right now but obviously I won't!

Right, back to the footy...

Hi all been very busy with christmas but am back now. Was DS first christmas and was all a bit much for him. Got his 1st birthday coming up to.

Feet ankles hands fingers are all swollen and have bad pain in my shoulder but apart from that were all good. Hope everyone else is ok?

Had mw last week and mini somethig is currently breech if there still breech late on then i will have to have an elcs as cantget and evc. As im trying for a vbac im allowed to go to 41 weeks before elcs

tiredteddy Thu 27-Dec-12 23:35:06

Hi wing hope you visit to London and your uncle is ok tomorrow. Will think of you. I def can't forget I'm pregnant that's for sure. I've got a good waddle going on now! We saw my dsis and her DH today ad its her birthday. we went to Canterbury it's beautiful. Packing up to go hone in Tbe morning.

tiredteddy Thu 27-Dec-12 23:37:39

Hi Something it can be very overwhelming for little ones. I remember ds1 being like that on his first birthday. Hope you are feeling ok. Baby might turn yet. Mine was transverse until quite recently.

Pineapple80 Fri 28-Dec-12 02:32:44

Hi all. Sounds like you all had nice Christmases. Ours was lovely too and my turkey turned out nicely!

Wing - I hope all went ok with your visit to your uncle, thinking of you...

I'm currently at our new house, waiting for delivery of our fridge! They have us a 3 hr window for a delivery and without any furniture to sit on, it is very uncomfortable on the floor! Speaking of uncomfortable, I think in finally getting too pudgy for my favourite jeans so have used the hair elastic trick which is working great!!

Not much else going on over here. Can't believe it'll be end of the year next week. Have you all got plans? We are having a quiet one with SIL and family.

StuckOnTopOfTheChristmasTree Fri 28-Dec-12 17:27:43

Happy late christmas all!

Has been lovely here - mum came to stay from overseas and much as its been lovely to spend it with her and the in-laws we are finally glad to have the house back to ourselves (and much JSing!!! its as if we're trying to get pg again!!!)

Definitely not feeling pregnant anymore - keep having to poke the small bump thats appearing to check it is a firm pregnancy bump not just flabby fat from the christmas food! I'm now 17 weeks so keep lying still to see if I can feel anything but nothing at all so far! At what date have others felt their baby for the first time? I can't wait till it happens...

Have had my results come back from the Quad test today and very relieved its low risk (given that I'm going to be an older mum) so we don't have to go down the amnio route which was at the back of my mind lately. Although I will probably still be on tenterhooks till the 20 week scan in January for some more reassurance that all is ok.

We talked about New Year and if the weather stays mild we are thinking of getting wrapped up warm, heading for some high ground to see if we can see the fireworks over Manchester. I've never been a fan of boozy crowds at New Year, so this suits us perfectly!

Take care everyone...

I have a scan on new years eve! smile then staying in for the 2nd year in a row. Think this baby is head down now as getting alot of pressure in my hip though DS was breech till 34 weeks

tiredteddy Sat 29-Dec-12 14:22:23

wing hope the visit to your u cle want ok? Has it been your DS birthday yet?

pineapple new fridge., new house, so exciting! Sounds like you are settling in. Tell us about the house please!

stuck 17 weeks already that's flying by. Bump growing nicely? Good to have no symptoms, I wish mine would disappear but I suppose they will vey soon blush

something how nice to have a scan on New Year's Eve, do you still think it's maybe a dd? You are being very strong willed not finding out. Loving you FB pics of your DS he is very cute!

We are back home now. Just about unpacked from our Xmas week away. I'm laying in bed watching bbc ip,yer and catching up on all the crappy tv I missed grin DH is entertaining the boys, they are making a playmobil city downstairs. Very sweet. Had some very groovy two-tone hunter wellies for Christmas, I'm going to look cool on the school run now! wink

WingDefence Sat 29-Dec-12 17:22:30

Hi all - just a quick one!

DS's birthday is tomorrow and we saw my uncle yesterday afternoon. It wasn't as horrendous as I had imagined in my head and doing it the coward's way ie when my parents and a couple of my cousins were going round made it far more bearable.

We've just had a lovely mini party for DS with my aunts and uncles (not the ill uncle obviously) and my cousins and their children too. Manic in this rented apartment but just lovely. Unfortunately my brother couldn't make it with his children so it's been 6 months now since we saw them but not my choice...

We're just about to have a quick chippy tea and then heading back home at 6ish.

Sorry I'm not replying to anything you've said above but I'm on my phone and can't scroll up to check!

tiredteddy Sun 30-Dec-12 15:09:55

Hi all! Well I'm ready to pop now that's for sure. Does anyone have exciting plans for nye? DH is at work in the morning. Pil are calling by at lunch ti deliver more baby goodies (we have been very spoilt by them, not sure where I'm putting it all though!) then we are all going (boys too) ti our friends house for the afternoon / evening. Plan is for a walk/ movie then dinner maybe sparklers and sky lanterns when it gets dark. Then seeing if we can stay awake until midnight!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Sun 30-Dec-12 16:59:12

Ooo Tired that sounds lovely. As does the late night walk Stuck.

Glad the visit to your Uncle wasn't too bad Wing and happy birthday to your DS - saw the FB picture - very cute!

Re. NYE, we are hoping not to fall out and row like we did last year and the year before we are not really a couple that 'rows' so it seems to be an odd new years 'tradition' and one we could do without confused

We are seeing my parents tomorrow, which given that we saw them three days in a row last week we could probably do without, but hey ho, I know Christmas is family time. Just feel like curling up for a few days and not being sociable - we got back yesterday afternoon following an overnight visit to MIL. It was fine but a bit sick of chatting now. Anyone else feel all talked out or it is just me sounding a bit bah humbug?

When are you due Tired? My best friend is having her c/s on 14th Jan and I can't wait for newborn baby snuggles...she can't wait to get the baby out of her!!

Really must go and make dinner now instead of MNing but it's been ages since I read/posted anything that I wanted to see how you're all getting on.

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Sun 30-Dec-12 17:00:24

p.s. am a bit envy of your wellies Tired. I ofetn admire Hunter wellies but can't quite bring myself to pay for them blush

tiredteddy Sun 30-Dec-12 17:53:59

I know what you mean about the wellies guinea DH had obviously spotted me admiring them. They are lovely and were a great suprise! Due on 18th jan so just under 3 weeks to go. Buggy being delivered next Friday. Then everything is ready I think. yes I do also need a rest from socialising, I'm planning on being a hermit when the boys go back to school until baby arrives! Sleep and reading is all I plan to do!

I have my growth scan tomorrow at 32 weeks im guessing bean will be 4lbs 9oz but ill probably be wrong!

Have a major urge to sort tiny baby clothes tonight

Practisingparent Sun 30-Dec-12 22:34:44

Hi all,
Its been a while from me. Glad to hear all is going well. Im a bit envy tired, that you dont have long to go. I am really sick of all these pregnancy twinges and aches, and feel huge already, would be nice to know that Im due within the month when in actual fact I have till the end of April to go! But am also really gratefull for this amazing little baby, and also some time to sort stuff out.

My sis just gave me 2 extra large vac pack bags of second hand clothes, am in some desperation as to sorting through and finding places for them all!

Will be keeping a closer eye on this thread from now on as ladies begin to pop.... exciting times!

Happy New Year all! [shloer all round] grin

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 31-Dec-12 10:17:58

shock that some of you are ready to pop. I remember you getting your bfps <old gimmer alert>.

Hope everyone has a nice start to 2013, DS has been ill but seems to be better so hopefully we'll have a peaceful one!

Practising, now I'm pg after a mc I feel like I shouldn't bitch about how cack pregnancy can feel so I know what you mean!

Pineapple80 Mon 31-Dec-12 12:21:48

Happy new year ladies! 40 mins to midnight here in Melbourne and we're sitting by the water waiting for fireworks to start. It is a pretty low key for us this year which suits me fine grin.

Have a lovely day x

MrsBri Mon 31-Dec-12 13:09:56

Happy new year to you, pineapple :-)

I know what you mean about not complaining about pregnancy symptoms as I'm so pleased to be pregnant. But my morning sickness has come back with a total vengeance today at 15+1 or +5, depending on if it is period date or scan date we go by.

Do you knowledgeable ladies think it is caused by the surge in growth about now? Or is it just sod's law. This morning was the closest I've been to throwing up on the train :-/

tiredteddy Mon 31-Dec-12 14:57:10

Happy new year everyone! grin

BelleEtLaBete Mon 31-Dec-12 20:39:01

<cautiously sidles in>

Got a lovely strong bfp today so I've come to wave at MrsBri, Wavesandsmiles and GaryBusey. And anyone else I've forgotten. And to anyone I don't know.


<Still only 4 weeks so sidles back out to hover between here and JS for a bit longer>

MrsBri Mon 31-Dec-12 20:42:37

Hello Belle :-) I straddled the two threads, as it were, for a while (and, as you know, I still lurk on the other side too!).

Fx it all runs nice and smoothly for you.

WingDefence Mon 31-Dec-12 22:06:18

Happy New Year to everyone! grin

We're having a nice quiet one in, currently watching the 50 best Olympics moments on BBC3 - yes, we are very sad. I am having a nice glass of wine though!

DS had a lovely birthday yesterday and we've had a lazy day today. Popped into Preston this morning and then spent the afternoon opening his various Xmas and birthday Lego kits and I had an hour's kip in bed

I treated myself to a Kenwood Chef in the Debenhams sale which I reckon is good timing for doing DS's birthday cake for his 'proper' birthday party on Saturday. I want to do a chocolate cake covered in smarties but never used a stand mixer before. Have any of you got one?!

And welcome to Belle too. You must have joined after I left the JSing fred so that must have been relatively quick going! wink

Right, back to the boring TV...!

BelleEtLaBete Tue 01-Jan-13 09:42:07

Hi Wing. Used to be DingDongBelle - but you're right, I did do a bit of a Kitten. Maybe I missed you. Might lurk here for a bit if that's ok?

WingDefence Tue 01-Jan-13 09:51:16

Oh DingDongBelle rings a bell! grin

I made it to halfway through watching the fireworks on BBC1 and went to bed. DS up normal time today and I feel half asleep still - a really foggy head.

Might go for a walk later in the soggy fields!

MrsBri Tue 01-Jan-13 10:02:13

I had a nap and woke up in time to see the new year in :-)

Happy new year everyone...can't wait for our babies to make their appearance this year. So excited! :-)

tiredteddy Tue 01-Jan-13 10:17:19

Happy new year everyone. It's actually quite nice not to have a hangover. It did have a little champagne to toast at midnight. We were at friends and had dinner, went for a walk and did fireworks and sparklers with all the children. Then watched Disneys Brave (so rock and roll) played games until midnight. It was actually perfect! Just got up after a lovely lie in.

Welcome and nice to meet you belle

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Tue 01-Jan-13 13:22:42

Welcome Belle - what great news for the new year!

Happy new year all. Hope you all had lovely relaxing nights.

DH and I managed to not fall out! We played board games, JSd on the sofa and watched the fireworks with a glass of champagne grin - much better than last year!

We are all having babies this year, it's very exciting! Can't decide what to do this afternoon. It's not raining so we might go for a walk but I got up with DD (in the night and first thing this morning) so have the energy of an ill slug (I imagine they have very little energy hmm ). What do all you lovely ladies have planned today?

Pineapple80 Tue 01-Jan-13 13:55:34

Sounds like good NYEs all round! Have a great first day of 2013! I'm also very excited about our babies due this year. smile

Welcome Belle!

Having a few signs over the last couple of days either baby wants out or my bodys having a practice! Nesting yesterday i was an emotional wreck bad back ache all day and clear out sorry for tmi and tonight tightnings from hips round to bottom of bump doesnt hurt enough yet though!

Pineapple80 Wed 02-Jan-13 04:39:49

Hope you're ok something! Keep us all posted. Thinking of you x

Kittenkatzen Wed 02-Jan-13 07:23:56

<sidles in>

Ummm, hey ladies smile

So I got a BFP yesterday and again this morning I'm not quite ready/confident enough to come and join you properly yet, but thought seeing as you're all lovely you might keep a little spot warm for me while I hover for a bit? smile

MrsBri Wed 02-Jan-13 08:03:14

Hey kitten :-) Come join us! Again, so pleased for you!

tiredteddy Wed 02-Jan-13 08:03:29

Ooh hi kitten a spot is being kept warm indeed. Tentative congratulations!

something hope alls ok this morning?

I'm off to the midwife in a bit. Then hopefully doing nothing for the rest if the day!! grin

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 02-Jan-13 08:10:44

something, ooh, hope all is ok with you!

kitten, very excited on your behalf! I think you were JS almost as long as I was!!

<waves> at the thread, hope everyone is having a good 2013 so far?

Dysgu Wed 02-Jan-13 08:24:07

Hi all, just checking in again as it has been ages since I posted although I do occasionally lurk.

This has been (emotionally) my hardest PG (is number three and all the extra tests due to age and previous preemies makes me think I have felt quite detached and more aware of the risks/struggles this one might go through). DP also seems less 'involved' than previous times but has really picked up recently.

Anyway, today I am 24 weeks which means the baby is now viable and so we are really going to start getting ready for it to arrive. It is not due until the end of April - and I keep saying that it might chose to stay put until May but we are probably/possibly looking at any time from the end of February.

So far we have bought nothing at all for this baby. We were going to stop at 2DC so gave most of our stuff away. I have just one a bundle of baby sleeping bags on ebay so that is the first purchase for this one. I need to make a list of what we need and should probably think about stuff for my hospital bag too (although I have never packed one before as DDs arrived before we got that far).

Today I am spending the morning at the hospital. I am 'taking part' in two studies to try to prevent premature births which means a morning of swabs (oral and vaginal), blood tests and then 'capsules to insert each evening at bedtime' until 34 weeks! (TMI - I cannot even insert tampons without applicator so not sure how I am going to manage - might have to get DP to assist!)

Anyway, hope all going well with everyone and hoping to be much more involved now that we have reached 24 weeks.

tiredteddy Wed 02-Jan-13 09:05:02

dsygu that study at the hospital sounds really interesting. Are you glad to be taking part? Is it one of those things where there's a trial group and a group on placebos, or are you all on the the actual drugs? I hope it helps to cook your baby nicely. We are also on dc3 and I've found that I'm SO busy with boosted that its is much harder to get a moment to think about this one. DH and I were saying last night that we need to appreciate the bump for the next two weeks as its likely the last bump I'll ever have. My hospital bag is packed so I'm ready now at least practically. I think I'm actually feeling more nervous of the birth this time though. Maybe just the thought of labor or maybe the complicated logistics of plans for childcare etc. nice to hear from you x

Kittenkatzen Wed 02-Jan-13 09:41:34

Thanks girls, it's lovely to (sort of) be here! smile very glad to see everyone is doing well over here!

yep gary this is cycle 9 for me....ertd is officially due today so we'll see - I have a feeling I'm going to be on frantic pant-watch for a good few weeks days! My boobs are definitely tender and feel heavier this morning though which I am taking as a good sign...

MrsBri Wed 02-Jan-13 09:43:33

Ha ha, Kitten...I'm 16 weeks and still investigate my knickers / the loo roll ALL the time! I'm not sure it ever stops, to be honest.

I'm trying not to be too concerned, but the non-pregnant feeling part of the pregnancy is a bit weird (having not been pregnant before!).

You'll be just fine. And you're in great company with the ladies here too :-)

Congratulations and welcome to all the new grads!

Got checked last night cervix is incrediably soft and 1-2cm dilated but could stay this way for ever!

Kittenkatzen Wed 02-Jan-13 11:35:13

16 weeks!! shock You can't possibly be 16 weeks already!! Let's hope I can relax a little before then, I've already knicker checked 3 times in the last 2.5 hours! (nothing to report yet!)

Ooh something that sounds exciting - I can't believe you're all so far along, it only seems like a few weeks back that we were all JSing!

tiredteddy Wed 02-Jan-13 12:04:54

All fine at the midwife this morning. Head is 3/5 engaged so going in the right direction.

StuckOnTopOfTheChristmasTree Wed 02-Jan-13 12:46:37

hello kitten and belle - good to see new arrivals

am starting to get excited for you tiredteddy - haven't seen one of you lovely ladies have a birth yet since joining the thread so its an exciting reminder of what's to come!

I'm back at the midwife's tomorrow for a regular check. I'm hoping she can reassure me all is ok in this strange in between period when I'm no longer feeling rubbish but not yet feeling any movements or kicks.

Although I did have another clear sign that I hope means everything is progressing well because my belly button is getting bigger and I have broken out in some lovely blotches on my face!

Am only 32 weeks kitten so hoping to not go to much further! Though 4-5cm before actual labour would be lovely!

My skin is horrendous and seems to be getting worse each day!

Dysgu Wed 02-Jan-13 16:25:18

Gosh something I am now sat here wondering how you check your cervix? Not sure if I really want to know or whether knowing is better/worse than imagining.

Spent 90 minutes at the hospital clinic this morning. Both studies are still at the trial stage so the next stage is hormones/placebo and it is a double blind so no one but the computer actually knows whether I will be getting the hormones or not.

I have to go back tomorrow though as the consultant was not in today and he needs to be the one to set me up on the next stage. The holiday season has messed up the days as the testing is usually done on Tuesdays when he is working on the island. He will be back tomorrow though so there goes another 90 minutes. (At least I had lots of time left on my parking ticket so did a good deed by passing it on to the people who parked in my space when I left - I know that is not officially allowed but there was still 2.5 hours on my ticket.)

Good news though was the initial hormone test results that they get back almost straightaway showed no fibronectin being secreted which means no increased likelihood of this baby coming early - although as they said, there was never any sing of the others coming early, until they did!

WingDefence Wed 02-Jan-13 16:28:58

Ooh welcome kitten! Pease do lurk and even post if you feel up to it! And I'm still checking my pants, even though I'm nearly 27 weeks grin

something glad your cervix is holding out!

gary and dysgu hello! dysgu I said upthread that I forget I'm pregnant most of the time sticking my head in the sand? and haven't done anything to prepare as yet. I had a dream the other night that I started having early contractions and realised I hadn't sorted out any newborn clothes so got DH up into the loft ASAP to get them all down otherwise the baby wouldn't have had any clothes at the hospital!

stuck good luck at the MW tomorrow. I booked my 28wk appt and whooping cough jab today for the 17th Jan. I must really look into antenatal classes soon before they get booked up - in London there were no NHS classes so I went for NCT but up here there is more NHS provision so I'm going to try to get on the local course. I think it's for first time parents, but the ones for 2nd time parents is at the hospital and I cannot be bothered to drive approx 30 mins each time and pay for parking when I can go locally 10 mins away with free parking.

Has anyone done aqua natal classes before? I may look into that too if its not too late.

I have a feeling the next 12 weeks is going to go bloomin fast - tired do you think your past few days will draaaaag or rush past?

WingDefence Wed 02-Jan-13 16:35:05

I've just updated the stats thread with my 28wk appt and I've noticed a few of us on there's who haven't been around for ages sad but I can't remember who didn't have sticky ones and who have just become lurkers.

Do you lot have better memories? I don't want to PM anyone and say 'hi, where have you been' if they MC'd...

tiredteddy Wed 02-Jan-13 16:40:19

Hi wing think the next two weeks are going to fly by. I'm starting to feel a bit nervous in all honesty, about the birth, managing visitors and the new mega-juggling of three children! About others, mandasand is still around on the FB secret group and doing ok with her twins she just doesn't seem to mumsnet so much at the moment. Will looks at the stats thread and see who else I recognise. Also we should invite new grads over to the FB group too. Soon I'll be posting pics of mini tired blushsmile

MrsBri Wed 02-Jan-13 16:45:37

Wing, I'm hoping to start aqua natal classes next week if my maternity swimsuit arrives in time. My new, ever expanding, breasts aren't going to be secured by my old bikini! :-)

Might as well have a go as they're free!

WingDefence Wed 02-Jan-13 16:54:38

Thanks tired, yes I forgot about those on the FB group!

MrsBri I'd forgotten about getting a maternity swimming cossie! blush

StuckOnARollercoaster Wed 02-Jan-13 17:04:47

Mrs Bri - free aquanatal? is that because you already have some kind of membership or is it something offered by local council/hospital?
Might look into that myself. I think I need to start doing something just to help keep the limbs moving gently and might start to meet some new faces in the local area.
(At the moment don't know anyone other than immediate neighbours and DP's family - none of whom are pregnant or likely to get pregnant because they're all over 60!)

Well first day back at work is over and hasn't been too bad... I think tomorrow will be harder though! Must bring in left over christmas chocolate to keep me going!!!

MrsBri Wed 02-Jan-13 17:09:47

Stuck, it must be a council / NHS initiative. My midwife told me about it at booking in, so I thought I'd give it a go as it'll be good to get some exercise. :-)

Wing...maybe go shopping before you book your first class?!

Dysgu Wed 02-Jan-13 19:15:35

I rather fancy doing aqua natal but they only run classes in the day time here which doesn't work for me as I work full-time. I do wonder about asking the MW to 'insist' that I do them when I see her on Monday; I am expecting her to confirm that I do have SPD as I have constant lower back pain and hip pain and watching/listening to me try to turn over in bed has become something of a family activity (although DP and DD1 are very good at repositioning my support cushion between my legs) and is a real nuisance as I seem to have to turn every couple of hours all night once things get too painful.

I am going to ask about ante-natal classes too as we have never completed a full set and I imagine there are things we have forgotten over the past 4 years.

Also, can anyone tell me what is the 'use by date' on first car seats. I know the plastic decreases in safety or something but I can't find any actual ages. We used the same Stage 0+ seat for both DDs but I am wondering if we need to get a new one for DC3.

WingDefence Wed 02-Jan-13 19:28:07

Dysgu - mine run in the daytime and I work full time too but legally they have to give you time off for appointments and things like aqua natal (I think, will double check...).

I keep waking too when I need to turn in bed but I don't have pain with it (unless I've been lying on the same side for too long). I can't imagine how rubbish that is sad

And I have no idea about car seats! Worth starting a thread about it on MN?

Stuck, yes unfort I think it is a 'postcode lottery' (I hate that term) with NHS provision. Tomorrow's chore for me will be to ring up and get myself booked onto things.

WingDefence Wed 02-Jan-13 19:32:02

Here you go Dysgu, you have the right to take all antenatal appts off. Although the aqua natal classes haven't been prescribed to me as such by the MW, as it is on the list of classes the MW says I should consider, that's good enough fore. You should just be able to say they are antenatal classes without saying it is in the water, if you think they may be funny about it? And with your SPD I'd say aqua natal would be really helpful.

WingDefence Wed 02-Jan-13 19:32:25

*for me

MrsBri Wed 02-Jan-13 19:33:51

If your midwife says you should take the class your work have to give you the time off.

Ours are on Weds evenings, thankfully, so I don't have that battle. Already got a battle on my hands about my working hours being increased if I start the training contract on 14th, which is taking up loads of energy. :-/

That does sound painful, Dysgu :-( Maybe aqua natal would really help you.

tiredteddy Wed 02-Jan-13 19:38:42

Hi dysgu I think that the "use by" date as such for car seats is 7 years due to plastic deteriorating over time. I will get in touch with my Dsis and check it out as she works in the industry. Hth.

Dysgu Wed 02-Jan-13 20:19:52

wing I did have an idea that work would have to let me have time off for classes - will mention it to the MW on Monday and see what she thinks. I will also have a check to see if any of the other pools run classes as work will be fine about me having time off but I will need to provide work to be dome by my classes when I am not there so it would be nice to find a time that works for me too! I already have lots of extra time off due to screening appointments and the GTT in a couple of weeks means another whole morning off work!

We are due OFSTED though so things are very stressful - but on the other hand, my Head is always checking in and being very diligent (she has no children herself but reminds me daily that she is obliged to make things work for me as she has 'a duty of care! Would be nice that she asked how I was/did things because she cared but it is not so bad that she does them because she HAS to!)

tiredteddy thank you. It would be really good if you would check. Our car seat was the one we used with DD1 so that would be 6.4 years ago. I can find stuff on American sites which vary from 6, 7 and 10 years from the manufacturers date on the bottom. It would be nice if we could use it again - it is great and has the base so the seat just clicks in and out but if we do have to get another one then there are so many deals on right now where you get the seat free with the pram so it might be worth us looking whilst these sales are on.

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Wed 02-Jan-13 21:59:39

Hi all. Welcome kitten congrats on the BFP. Occasionally all the time I do knocked checks because sometimes it seems I have so much discharge I wonder if it's blood blush (sorry tmi I know).

Good to hear from you Dysgu - glad all is going well so far. We must be pretty close on dates as I am due end of April too. We also got rid of all the stuff as thought we were stopping at 2. so I have made lists of everything I think we need. I seem to have forgotten the basics though and genuinely couldn't remember how many vests/supervisors etc I need. A friend at church messaged me to ask if I want any baby clothes so I have a lovely big bag of stuff arriving on Sunday...happy me smile , I love getting second hand baby clothes (I'm weird I know).

Hope everything's ok Something and baby manages to stay put for a while longer. My friend is currently in hospital at 37 weeks because she has been contracting and is 1cm. She's booked in for a c/s on the 14th Jan though. The drs have said she has to stay in until the contractions stop as they won't do her section until she's in established labour. With 3 DCs and a slightly useless DH at home she's not a happy bunny!

Speaking of hospitals, I have visited the Maternity Assessment Centre tonight. Been getting some horrible abdominal pain which was awful this evening. Luckily nothing to worry about baby wise - likely just a scar adhesion from my abdominals surgery stretching and causing pain.

I did aqua natal with DC1 and thought it was fab. Unfortunately the classes are all on during the day here so can't go this time. I know I could insist with work but as I am behind with PhD work it feels a bit cheeky. Will just have to make do with my pregnancy yoga DVD.

I did take the kids swimming the other day though and it did feel nice being in the water. Unfortunately I grabbed by standard swimming costume and when I put it on in the changing room realised it was FAR too small for me - my breasts actually were popping out. the lifeguard kept staring blush If it had just been me I would have cut my losses and left but the kids were changed and excited so I stayed. I have since found a maternity tankini!

ChildOfThe1980s Thu 03-Jan-13 10:46:44

Hi all and happy new year. Welcome to newbies.

I have been struggling to find a nice-looking yet affordable (less than £30) tankini. Even Amazon seems to charge about £60 generally. Not on. I need to find one soon as my boobs will explode from any current swimsuits.

I would love to do aqua natal classes, but am guessing they are very expensive. Will have to research.

What are pregnancy yoga DVDs like? Are they new-agey?

StuckOnARollercoaster Thu 03-Jan-13 11:13:00

Yay - midwife appointment today and she handed me a sheet of paper about various ante-natal clasess and we do have Aquanatal! There's no mention of cost so I wonder if its free but even if not - I think I will check it out. Will see how bad my swimsuit looks with my tummy (or even if I can get it on) but I suspect I may be shopping so I avoid guineapigs breast spillage scenario!

Am very happy because my midwife said lets see if we can find a heartbeat and got out what I'm assuming was a doppler. Like the scan the little one would not keep still - but we did get a fraction of a second of his/hers heartbeat. Held it together in front of the midwife but was in a flood of emotional tears when telling my boyfriend about it afterwards.

Child - I was shopping for some maternity trousers yesterday and looking at the sale ranges of various shops and I remember quite a few of them had swimsuits - I wasn't paying much attention to the styles and if they were tankini's but it may be worth checking out the sale pages. I will probably take a look later (am assuming my swimsuit won't fit - or at least that its a good excuse for some more shopping!) and will post if I see anything...

StuckOnARollercoaster Thu 03-Jan-13 13:15:55

Child - I am having a productive lunch break. Here are some tankinis under £30
jojo 26 i love the red polka dot and navy stripe ones - am seriously tempted to get one of them myself

My body feels like it wants to go into labour im on day three of bad period type feeling in my back and ocassional tightenings through hips and bottom of bump the tightenings increase if im on my feet. God knows what my bodys playing at?!

tiredteddy Thu 03-Jan-13 17:04:08

Aquanatel classes sound great. Think I've missed the boat on those. I managed to get the boys to the park today to give them some fresh air, been shattered ever since. My legs ache. The boys are sweet though as they've put a blanket and a soft toy rabbit in the new pram waiting for their baby.

WingDefence Thu 03-Jan-13 17:56:46

I've been schlepping around the Trafford Centre (finally!) today with DH and DPs. It was fab but I really did flag after lunch (McDonalds blush) and ooh I ache now.

Bargains included 75% off everything in Clintons as they are moving stores so I stocked up on 4th, 5th and 6th birthday cards for the next couple of years, plus a lovely Melissa & Doug nativity set for just £2.50!

Also got two cake tins to do DS's cake tomorrow in the Kenwood. Gulp, I'm nervous!

tiredteddy Thu 03-Jan-13 17:59:56

I looked at your link to the cake wing it looks yummy! If I lived closer I'd say save me a slice! grin

Kittenkatzen Thu 03-Jan-13 18:21:24

Cake? Did someone say cake?! gringrin

MrsBri Thu 03-Jan-13 18:28:38

Ah, Wing, we are off to the Trafford Centre tomorrow. We could have had a mini meet :-)

Sounds like there are bargains to be had, which is good to hear.

Really tired this week. I think work in between Christmas and New Year took it right out of me. I've definitely needed these days off.

WingDefence Thu 03-Jan-13 19:07:17

MrsBri that's is SUCH a shame! Grr! sad Not sure how much will be left in that Clintons though...

And tired & kitten, don't get too excited - my cakes never turn out like the picture in any recipe I use. I'm hoping that a choc cake covered in ganache (never made before...) and smarties can't go wrong grin

MrsBri Thu 03-Jan-13 19:18:27

By the sound of it, not much since you left, ha ha! :-)

I need some maternity bottoms of some description as I could have cried this morning as nothing fitted :-/ I resorted to one of the work dresses I bought in Next's sale!

Chocolate cake in ganache with Smarties sounds ace, Wing!

Dysgu Thu 03-Jan-13 20:40:08

I think I might have to look for a new swimming costume - am planning on asking my MW to advise me to do the aquanatal classes so I can insist on time off work but it seriously had not crossed my mind about what I would wear blush

I spent the second morning in a row at the antenatal clinic at the hospital although I think the 'highlight' might have been when I was picking up the medication at the hospital pharmacy and the pharmacist went into great detail, in front of all the other people waiting, about how exactly to insert them into my vagina and push them up 'but not too far' and then gave me an A4 diagram in case I needed more guidance grin

One thing I did forget to ask or didn't even consider thinking about until much later in the day, was whether DP and I can still DTD. I presume we can but should we do it before or after the thing is inserted as it needs to be put in each day at bedtime for the next 10 weeks (or until the baby arrives if it puts in an appearance before 34 weeks).

Persuasion Fri 04-Jan-13 12:50:46

I'm still here I just lurk chronically grin

I'm 14+3 now and feel a long way behind some of you! I'm still waiting for my nausea to go and my second trimester 'glow' to appear! don't tell me it won't, I'm not listening, la la la

I hope it holds off a little longer for you something, although it does sound like baby might want out now!

dysgu I love the A4 diagram, I'm surprised they didn't go the whole way and do a demonstration confused grin

tiredteddy Fri 04-Jan-13 17:52:23

dysgu funny about the diagram indeed! grinblush

Hi persuasion sorry to hear you are still feeling sick hope it passes soon for you.

Does everyone have exciting plans for the weekend. Mine include directing DH to do the last DIY jobs (hang blind in playroom, put up new light and coat hooks) and wash the baby bedding! Then tidy/clean the house so it's ready for impending arrivals and visitors. Then on Sunday we are going to my friends sons party.

Hope everyone's ok?

WingDefence Fri 04-Jan-13 22:42:22

That's very funny Dysgu! I'd forgotten you teach when I'd said before about you taking time off work for aqua natal - it's definitely not as easy as being in an office job.

Hello Persuasion - I hope too you round a corner soon and stop feeling sick envy <-that's a sick face, not jealous!

Blimey tired, you are really making me think how soon this unavoidable baby arrival is for all of us...!

I've got DS's birthday party tomorrow. I'm absolutely wiped out having made his cake (need to decorate tomorrow - just sorted out five giant tubes of smarties into their different colours...), plus 15 gingerbread men for the little darlings to decorate, done all the party bags, wrapped the pass the parcel, did a MASSIVE shop this morning for food etc. Five hours in the kitchen today and I've barely sat down so I ache tons.

Just have to decorate the cake, make the dough tomorrow for the pizzas, then get down to the church hall and blow up 100 balloons, sort everything out, decorate, actually host the party etc etc...

Right, night all!

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 10:36:42

Good luck today, Wing. It all sounds exhausting!

I've just booked onto aquanatal on Wednesday evening. It's useful in Southport that the classes are at 6.30 or 7.15. I'd never get there during the day.

I'll report back after I've been :-)

tiredteddy Sat 05-Jan-13 11:43:51

I just put all the baby things in the drawers. And double checked the hospital bag. Only 2 weeks to go now grin

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 11:53:33

Wow, tired, 2 weeks, that's quite bonkers really. Seems odd that I had just joined when you got your BFP. Feels like forever ago! But also like yesterday. Time is weird.

But how exciting :-)

tiredteddy Sat 05-Jan-13 12:54:07

I know mrsbri ! Time is flying now. We are having a productive morning of nesting, curtains finally going up in the boys playroom and back up in the lounge downstairs. My next mission is to make up "hospital" type bags for the boys so my folks/ friends can find anything they might need. I'm going to put a change of clothes, school uniform and pjs, also the spare special teddies and blankets they each have and leave the booster seats out in case they end up going anywhere like back to my mums in the car. NESTING!!!

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 13:02:00

I can't wait to do a bit of nesting :-) Fx we get the bungalow we've applied for and I can start getting properly ready. Though not for a while yet...need April's pay which includes bonus, then I'll just go on a rampage! Assuming we get bonus, that is :-/

tiredteddy Sat 05-Jan-13 13:30:31

Well my fingers are crossed for you! smile

Dysgu Sat 05-Jan-13 13:56:23

Yes wing teaching is generally not the easiest job to get time off from - although my current school is very AWARE of its duty of care so I imagine if I tell them something needs to happen, then my head will okay it. I have only managed to find one aquanatal class that runs on the island anyway. It is across the county but it on a Wednesday and would probably be the best time of the whole week for my class to be reasonably easily covered, although it would eat into my PPA time, which I would not mind but would need to check if that causes problems legally!

My weekend plans involve lots of rest - since starting the medication (TMI yes, DP has to put it in as I can't reach to push it to the top hmm ) I have become exceedingly 'soggy' and did have some idea that I was leaking. Anyway, I had to wear a pad and the leaking stopped within a couple of hours so everything seems to be fine. The baby has seemed less active which is exactly what happened with DD1 when she decided to arrive early. I am seeing the MW again on Monday - although will call the hospital if anything happens over the weekend, obviously - but it has all been a bit scary as I am only 24 weeks so far.

Anyway, this has all prompted me to start thinking about getting my stuff ready for when it does happen so we bought the first items of baby clothes yesterday: white vests and white babygros. Yes, that is it but I also bought maternity pads, big knickers and breast pads so have made a start!

I have also decided to start my ML earlier than originally planned - even though the whole think is academic as I have never MADE it to maternity leave before the baby arrives and starts it automatically. I am now going to finish a week after our half term holiday so my last day at work should be 1st March. I was 'planning on staying until the end of term which is the end of March but we have decided I will just do 7 more weeks of teaching and then stop.

I will be 32+2 then and hope that the baby has not already put in an appearance. It does seem a bit like tempting fate but then, I know that this baby will just appear when it feels like it.

It does seem strange though as 7 weeks (8 including the half term holiday) is hardly any time at all!

tiredteddy Sat 05-Jan-13 14:08:36

dysgu that all sounds like a really good plan about starting mat leave earlier. Hope you make it until then. It sounds like they are monitoring you well. Well done also for starting to get ready and prepared. You've also reminded me that the last thing I need to get is BIG knickers. blush

MrsBri Sat 05-Jan-13 14:28:16

That does sound like a very good plan, dysgu. Sounds like you're very organised.

Ah yes, big pants. Must remember those. Cheap and throw away is my plan. How long do I need to wear them for?!

Booked myself a mw appt as my feet are so swollen it feels funny to walk! Had +protein in my urine at hospital appt to.

Been birthday shopping for my DS as he is one in a few weeks! It was 12 days from today last year that i was waiting to get induced!

tiredteddy Sun 06-Jan-13 09:47:22

Hope you get some help from the midwife Something. Shopping for you DS birthday, how lovely. Will you be having a little party?

Were goimg to See DPs parents in the morning soft play with some baby friends in the afternoon then to see my parents for cake in the evening!

tiredteddy Sun 06-Jan-13 19:00:04

That sounds like the perfect first birthday something seeing all his special people without getting overwhelmed. Clever you! smile

Hello everyone, haven't been around for ages as Christmas was busy then we went on holiday. I'm 11 weeks today going by my dates, and still waiting for a scan date to come through, but have had my booking in appt, and have another through for 13 February. Nausea is horrid, and I am still fainting daily. Bleurgh. I have come back from holiday with bruises, not from our adventures in the glens and mountains but from passing out in carparks. Well, one faint was in the beautiful glen nevis.

Back to work tomorrow after 3 weeks off, and not really looking forward to it, especially as I will have to cover up the symptoms as much as possible. I think early nights and the odd lunchtime nap might be needed.

Kittenkatzen Mon 07-Jan-13 07:48:42

Gah, you disappeared from TIO, marking my place again.

waves hope you have a good first day back at work


tiredteddy Mon 07-Jan-13 08:06:42

waves sorry to hear you are still fainting! That must be very difficult to live with. Has the GP/ midwife suggested anything to help with that?

kitten hi how are you? Hope you are well?

Kittenkatzen Mon 07-Jan-13 08:16:42

Hi tired smile I'm fine thanks - worryingly so in fact! Am only 4+4 today though so hoping the lack of symptoms is just down to it being so early still and nothing else. Bit worried that the ICs are still showing the faintest of lines, but DH keeps reminding me that the 3 expensive tests I've done we're all clearly positive so I shouldn't put too much stock in the result of tests that cost about 20p for 500-odd! Fair point I guess hmm

It's so lovely seeing how all you ladies are getting on though, I can't believe you're so close now! Did you find out if your bump is pink or blue and have you chosen names and everything?

WingDefence Mon 07-Jan-13 10:12:27

Morning all!

Welcome back waves and hi again Kitten!

Dysgu, keep those legs crossed confused

something, I can't remember what protein in urine means...?

I've been onto the 'parentcraft' people this morning re: antenatal classes. It's interesting that I'm sure it was more impressed upon me by the professionals last time to get on and book classes whereas this time (perhaps because it's my second and also because I've had far fewer MW appts) they've not mentioned it once after the booking-in appt.

Anyway, the refresher session is at the hospital in the daytime so I'm not going to that but instead have booked onto the local normal classes. Unfortunately they start (they're in 4-weekly groups) this Friday afternoon and we've booked a couple of nights away in Liverpool without DS (first time!) Thurs-Sat so I won't be able to make it. I'll go to the other three sessions though and then hopefully the next starter session which is in mid-March (eek, will be close!).

I've also booked onto the Delivery Suite tour but I'm still hoping to persuade DH to go for the home birth option...

Kitten I found out the sex and we're having a little girl this time round! We agreed names really easily in the car on the way back from the scan which was great as with DS it took a long time! Haven't told anyone the names, but we have told close friends and family that she's pink smile

tiredteddy Mon 07-Jan-13 10:36:40

Hi kitten stretch marks are re-stretching. Ouch. Bump is really tight. Yes apparently this bump is pink also but I'm so used to boys that I don't quite believe it. Not long til I know for sure. Have a boys and a girls name ready just in case. The boys are Max 8 and Toby 5. So bump will be Zack or Fern. smile

tiredteddy Mon 07-Jan-13 10:38:04

Oh wing well done for classes. I haven't done any or booked a tour of hospital! I'm sure it'll all come flooding back blush weekend away sounds really great!

So i have my mw appt tomorrow in suffering with chronic headaches and a gammy eye since last night it felt like my head was burning on and off?! Wtaf?! So the headaches are so had im actually considering an ELCS so id only have to do 5 more week instead of 7/8

Protein in urine can be a sign of pre eclampsia.

kitten were a yellow bump over here our boys name is 100% henry john lee our girls name is probably evie willow mary but poppy is being thrown about

WingDefence Mon 07-Jan-13 10:55:57

Lovely names something and tired!

something, if your head is that bad you really must get an appt sooner than tomorrow with your GP. That just doesn't sound good hmm

WingDefence Mon 07-Jan-13 10:59:21

something I really don't want to stress you out but severe headaches are a sign of preeclampsia as well as vision symptoms.

Please get yourself to the GP...

Persuasion Mon 07-Jan-13 11:00:51

something headaches can mean high blood pressure. In combination with a bit of protein in urine and swollen feel I would definitely run it by your midwife just in case. Hopefully it's noting but worth a check.

Sounds like we will be having some babies soon on this thread one way or another, les hope they allappear bang on their due date.

I like all these names! We've tentatively thought about it (boys and girls) but no firm decisions yet.

My only news is that my nausea finally seems to be settling a little!

Kittenkatzen Mon 07-Jan-13 11:05:22

Oh lots of lovely baby names, I'm so excited for you all! And more than a bit envy that you're so much further on than me grin (a JSer is never happy right?!)

something that doesn't sound like fun, hope you feel better soon.

If it isnt better by the time DP is home (3) i will be going to a&e as right now it feels like my head and neck are on fire whilst im being stabbed in the head.
I had pre eclampsia last time wich is why i had booked an extra appt tomorrow but i will be seeing.someone today the way i am right now

Meringue33 Mon 07-Jan-13 11:18:07

Go now! Please x

WingDefence Mon 07-Jan-13 11:19:34

something, can DP get home any earlier? If you had it last time you really must be at v high risk this time. brew

He cant leave work and everyone else who could help is at work and cant leave DP can only leave if im in labour

WingDefence Mon 07-Jan-13 11:51:52

Can he tell your work he's in labour? Because of course it could be a false alarm...

Thinking of you x

tiredteddy Mon 07-Jan-13 12:09:30

something at least ring the midwife and speak ti someone. Maybe they will cone to you especially if you say your head is so bad you can't leave the house?!

StuckOnARollercoaster Mon 07-Jan-13 13:57:59

something just read the last few posts - please talk to your midwife or someone at your hospital before 3.
I know people stress about misusing the NHS but there are times when you need to - and if a medical professional is concerned they can surely arrange for an ambulance or something and DP can meet you at the hospital?

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 07-Jan-13 16:30:31

something, did you see the GP/are you feeling better?

Sat in a&e will update when i know anything

tiredteddy Mon 07-Jan-13 16:42:50

Good luck something really hope you and baby are ok, thinking of you x

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 07-Jan-13 16:45:03

Good luck something, hope all is well xx

Being sent to the maternity hospital bp is149/100

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 07-Jan-13 17:06:33

Oh crumbs something, hope everything checks out ok, is there a chance they'll induce you tonight?

Sending positive thoughts your way. x

tiredteddy Mon 07-Jan-13 17:10:35

Keep us posted something you are in the right place to be looked after.

WingDefence Mon 07-Jan-13 17:15:59

Gosh thinking of you something

You know we are all thinking of you x

Kittenkatzen Mon 07-Jan-13 18:45:27

Oh something hope you're ok, keeping fx for you

Another one keeping my fx for you something - glad you are being looked after

Dysgu Mon 07-Jan-13 20:50:42

Hoping everything is alright something and that whatever needs to be done is done quickly and that everything is sorted soon.

I too had protein in my urine sample at the MW before. That has never happened before... but I am already booked in for a GTT next week due to my age.

MW also agreed to 'suggest' that aqua natal classes would be useful so I just need to find some that are actually running - the pool where I thought they were is still closed for renovations.

I have also been updating our calendar (although am on the lookout for a new one in the sales as we really need one with 6 columns) and I have 7 weeks to work and 6 appointments already booked in that will require my bosses to sort cover (and that is without me taking time off for the aquanatal classes if I find some).

I forgot to mention antenatal classes to the MW - I am only 24+5 so should have time to fit them in if I speak to her next time, shouldn't I? I am seeing her at 28 weeks and will then move to fortnightly appointments if all things seem ok.

Still got fingers crossed for you something

Thanks for your concerns i had no protein in my urine so there not overly concerned
.i just have to put up with the pain wich is so bad its making me think about elcs!

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 07-Jan-13 21:17:40

Oh something, 'glad' it's just serious pain & not something worse.
Are you ok about having an elcs?
I know you really wanted a vbac...will you try again with your next pregnancy?
Hope DP is looking after you!

Dysgu, good luck finding an aquanatal class! My local (council run) swimming pool is utter shite when it comes to timetables (on the website they've got their summer 2012 programme) so might have to try that.
No idea about the antenatal classes (didn't do them last time, won't again), but on another thread someone mentioned their locals ones aren't 'open' to women until 30wks so you've probably got time left.

12wk scan booked in for 13+4, so a month away!
Going to book in for a late welfare private scan at 34+, DS stopped moving twice & I'm so worried about it happening again that knowing there's nothing wrong will help reassure me.
something, I had my 6wk scan at Kent Medical Imaging, they were fantastic, thanks for the recommendation!

Hope everyone is well.

Glad you enjoyed your scan!

Well im not deffo having an elcs im purley considering it because of the pain. Im desperate for a vbac so will probably just stick to that. Just keep telling myself 8 weeks left at the max as im only allowed to go to 41 weeks. Will have a chat about elcs with my mw tomorrow

WingDefence Mon 07-Jan-13 21:34:16

So glad you're okay something!

I looked up aqua natal classes but they are only on a Tuesday lunchtime and that'd be too much time out from work, enough to put me off. The antenatal classes I'm going to attend are in a Friday afternoon 2-4 and that'll be nice enough (lazy Friday afternoons hurrah) smile

tiredteddy Mon 07-Jan-13 22:01:48

Glad you are okay * something* take it easy if you can?!

Kittenkatzen Tue 08-Jan-13 07:29:40

Glad you're ok something!

Random question but does anyone know if you can get anywhere on the council housing list if your partner works? Were renting privately and cant afford it unless i can find somewhere £100 cheaper or closer to DPs work wich will never happen as i cant pay london prices!

WingDefence Tue 08-Jan-13 11:48:33

No idea I'm afraid something!

How's your head today?

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 08-Jan-13 12:28:45

something, I think any can apply for council housing, it just depends on what your local area lists are like...you may find that you're low-ish on the list & it takes a few years to get somewhere.
Have you cut back in areas you can afford to?
We've recently cut down our spending & started budgeting more as DH is looking at changing careers.

Heads pretty much the same! Dosed up on painkillers and off to see the mw at 4.
Yeah we have cutback on everything non essential

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Tue 08-Jan-13 15:01:09

Hello all. Sorry I've been off the radar a bit recently... been massively busy since the end of the Christmas break and I haven't even started teaching again yet.

I will catch up on the 2 pages of posts (you lot have been chatty!) this evening but I am actually posting to ask a favour ...

I'm sure most of you already know ... but I am doing a sociology PhD at the moment and I am trying to complete my research fieldwork. I have tried a number of different methods of data generation/gathering and none of them seem to be quite right. So, in a last attempt at finding a research method that generates the kind of data I would like, I have designed a qualitative questionnaire. I just wondered if any of you lovely ladies would be prepared to fill it in and give me feedback on it please? The sorts of things I would like to know are:

1. How long does it take to fill in?
2. Are the questions straightforward to understand?
3. Did you feel able to answer all the questions and why/why not?

I don't need detailed feedback, I just need somebody (or bodies!) who isn't me and DH (and doesn't already know my research) to fill it in and let me know what they think. If you don't mind helping me out with this then if you PM me your email address I will email you the questionnaire. I will also be ETERNALLY GRATEFUL and send you lots of virtual thanks and decaff brew !

The questionnaire is asking for your opinions about love by the way.

WingDefence Tue 08-Jan-13 15:12:09

something hope the MW appt goes well.

Guinea, have you got my email address already? Happy to help (hot long do you expect it to take?).

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Tue 08-Jan-13 15:22:31

Hi Wing. Thank you - I have emailed it to you. I am hoping it will take no more than 20 mins but so far no one independent has filled it in so I'm honestly not sure confused

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Tue 08-Jan-13 15:28:14

Wing ... I also emailed it to myself to have a look at and it seems to have gone very wrong! Ignore this version - I'll have a pootle (technical research term!) and email you another copy when it's right.

Kittenkatzen Tue 08-Jan-13 15:40:41

Hey guinea I'm happy to give it a whirl if you like....am on phone so can't pm right now but drop me a pm to remind me or I'll do it when I get a chance to log on properly smile

tiredteddy Tue 08-Jan-13 19:33:50

I'll do it too if your need another person too guinea

I'm SO tired. Baby is 3/5 engaged and really putting pressure on my bladder to the point where I have to stand still and stop walking. It really hurts. This baby better not be late as I will never manage!

CuriouslyChristmassyColaHam Tue 08-Jan-13 21:20:51

Struggling to keep up with the thread as usual smile

something if you have made cut backs/ created a budget for the months ahead and can see you can't afford your rental there are options available to you. Don't let yourself get in the arrears, act first. If you approach your housing department of the local council you can tell them you are concerned about not being able to pay rent and becoming homeless. Get your name put on the council list. They should offer you financial assistance in the mean time. If you became homeless due to eviction and your partner works they put you in temporary accommodation. This is very expensive and can work out worse than when you started out. The key is to getting assistance early. Not sure if its the same in England, but your citizens advice should also be helpful and sort you out with forms for housing association accommodation. Hope this helps and doesn't sound too dramatic. Unfortunately, I know someone who got in arrears and ended up in a right mess as they buried their head in the sand.

17 weeks here and looking like I have a basket ball up my top grin. Nothing to report really, just trying to keep ds entertained and busy. Today was a good parenting day. Does anyone else love it when naps are perfect, all meals are eaten, the day is filled with laughter, bedtime is easy and somehow the house isn't a mess? I'm sure this is how I envisaged every day as a parent smilewink

Dysgu Tue 08-Jan-13 22:37:02

CCCH that sounds like a lovely day of parenting. It IS lovely when everything seems to go so smoothly - long may it continue for you.

tiredteddy how much longer do you have to go?

guinea I also sent you a PM with my email address if you need any more feedback on your questionnaire.

Well, I had another bonus of being pregnant today. We are waiting for the phone call from Ofsted and in a constant state of alert at the school where I work. The Head has decided on yet another round of internal observations - this will be the third round since last Easter so has to be the last ones until this coming Easter - but she told me that I do not need to be included as it is simply stress and pressure that I don't need at this point. I am perfectly fine with being observed - I teach such classes that I am many extra adults in the room with me all the time anyway - but am not going to argue with her as it gets me out of having to write individual lesson plans for every lesson over two days grin

Hope everyone else is doing okay.

tiredteddy Tue 08-Jan-13 22:41:47

Hi curiously you day does sound rather lovely. It's so nice when that happens isn't it smile

dsygu 10 days to go until due date. Def getting a lot of pressure, Brixton hix and some other tmi symptoms that it shouldn't be too long. I've well and truly nested (am naturally messy and disorganised and house is slick and span and ready for a new addition). I hope Ofsted don't darken your doors until you are on mat leave grin!

CuriouslyChristmassyColaHam Wed 09-Jan-13 07:05:59

Dsygu your head teacher sounds