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April 2013.....we're halfway there! (Part 5)

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bunnygirl80 Sun 02-Dec-12 01:50:50

Our newest home!

Old thread here

Stats thread here

Trishstar Sun 02-Dec-12 05:22:19

Wow halfway there and another thread. Thanks ladies for being so lovely and helpful xx

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 02-Dec-12 06:21:11

<marks spot>

Eurgh, off to work looking like the girl on the wowcher advert - y'know, the one they suggest needs fake tan?! Wish me luck, I've got a 12 hour shift to get through! confused

ILoveNoodles Sun 02-Dec-12 07:06:23

Hi, can I join. Will be 21 wks on tues am due the 16th April. Have had my quads come back as 1 in 9270, will 30 in feb are these numbers ok?
Had 20 wk scan last tues I went with my mother in law as DP couldn't make it so got her to write it down and place it in an envelope, and we opened it when he got in from work we are having a girl! My four yr old son wanted a sister so he is happy!
Was a but shocked convinced it was a boy,but grateful everything seems ok. Wanted to say congrats to everyone here, and give my thoughts and wishes to everyone who has had bad news. X

ILoveNoodles Sun 02-Dec-12 07:08:01

I meant I will be 30 in feb! <fat fingers>

steph2412 Sun 02-Dec-12 07:50:41

Welcome Ilovenoodles we have the same due date i know trishstar does aswel and a couple of other ladies i think x

kellestar Sun 02-Dec-12 08:15:44

Hello Ilovenoodles welcome to the April mums to be. I am 31 and had a similar number to your risk.

Trishstar as to change bags, i have a paisley babymel change bag, £60 in MC but bought bnwt on eBay for £15 and its brill, it's a hobo bag with lots of pockets and has velcro mini straps to attach the bag to buggy easily. It easily holds DD's stuff and my bits too. Before that I had the boots one, but it was narrow and couldn't contain my stuff too so had a small handbag in addition. Nosied in MC, price hunted online. It started out with a red and brown pattern, which has faded slightly, but I like the more muted tones now.

My cold has boomeranged back and feel vile again. DD decided 6am was a good time to get up and she came in with us, quite funny as DH was trying his hardest to ignore her but she kept snuggling up to him and being cute.

Off to see the reindeer parade with DD, DNeice and DNephew in Wells today, fancying a hog roast for lunch.

Trishstar Sun 02-Dec-12 08:16:56

Welcome ILoveNoodles, steph is right we have the same due date, I'm having a boy.

What's the quad test?

Have you thought of names yet and is it your first baby?


Trishstar Sun 02-Dec-12 08:18:20

Thanks kellestar babymel was one of the brands I was looking at actually but I didn't know anyone who actually had one. I will have a look!

Mama1980 Sun 02-Dec-12 08:52:18

Morning all just marking my place I'll update later.

Trishstar Sun 02-Dec-12 08:56:44

Hi Mama hope you're both doing well xx

Missmuffet28 Sun 02-Dec-12 09:02:05

Welcome noodles

I'm still waiting for a due date buddy to join I think I'm the only one without one sad

All this talk of changing bags is making my fingers itch I know what I'm gonna spend Sunday afternoon doing! Searching for the perfect one o those!! Iv got a feeling that dp isn't going to Agree to anything remotely girly though, this bag is just as much for me than it is for babe right?! Means I get final say grin

SneezySnatcher Sun 02-Dec-12 09:03:23

Hello! I've started looking at changing bags. I just had a cheap one with DD but this time, as I'll have 2 DCs, I'm considering a Pacapod. They have different 'pods' including an insulated feeding pod, which will be good for DD's snacks. It needs to be big enough to fit baby stuff, plus a change of clothes/colouring things/toys for DD.

SneezySnatcher Sun 02-Dec-12 09:04:03
EmpressMatilda Sun 02-Dec-12 09:11:24

Good morning all. Marking my spot on the thread.

I was prompted yesterday by some local ads to start looking into cots, Moses baskets and travel systems. Realised we simply can't afford to buy new but the reviews and prices are all over the place. I am now starting to wonder whether eerie even need a travel system. We have a car seat for car travel and carrying, getting a sling or carrier to attach him to me when I go to the shops and will get a cot for sleeping in. I don't see why we need anything else. And surely if we get a cot Moses basket is unnecessary?!

On another note I've decided to get a car otherwise I'll be housebound in my maternity leave. I mean, I walk A LOT and intend to continue but for day trips and getting up north to my parents I can't rely on DH's fancy car which will be at work with him. I passed my test 10 years ago and haven't driven since. Yikes! I think some refresher lessons are in order.

Sorry for the essay.


EmpressMatilda Sun 02-Dec-12 09:12:27

Eerie?! Naughty spell check.

Crazytictac Sun 02-Dec-12 09:33:46

Hi ladies and welcome to all the newbies!

Have been thinking about changing bags so will have a look at the pacapod, thanks sneezy. I do have a pink lining one which I love but it has the yummy mummy slogan on which I felt a bit self conscious about and would turn the bag so the slogan wasn't on show.

lutrinae Sun 02-Dec-12 09:34:25

Hi all - Sorry I haven't posted for ages. Have been busy moving house (to Walthamstow) and getting a new kitten! (she's called Mouse and is trying to help me type this). In fact I think there was so much going on I think I forgot I was pregnant for a couple of hours.
I'm finding it really frustrating not being able to lift stuff though, anyone else getting that? We are also now 15 minutes walk from the nearest station (neither of us drive) instead of 5 and I'm finding my current walking pace not up to scratch!

My 20 scan went great, everything looked normal and the sonographer even said it had 'great vessels' whatever that's supposed to mean smile
She didn't even offer to tell us the sex but as we didn't want to know, that was ok. It was being pretty awkward about getting into position though.

I don't want to give away names but mine are all pretty traditional. The complication is that we want a double surname AND it's a family tradition to have 2 middle names so it will have a LOT of names! I also do family history as a pastime so there are lots to mine from that.


FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Sun 02-Dec-12 09:49:46

Hiya all, just checking in. -20C here just now and mountains of snow. Was supposed to go over to my daughter's today but husband says no. The roads haven't been cleared yet and although we have winter tyres, he still thinks it's unsafe. Guess I'll have to cook my own dinner then sad

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Sun 02-Dec-12 09:53:09

ILoveNoodles I was told that average risk for my age (40) is 1:96, which I believe is much higher than for your age. They also said that I would only be offered further testing if the results were 1:200 or less. If that's for high risk, then as a lower risk you must be fine with your results.

JessieEssex Sun 02-Dec-12 09:53:41

Hi all
I had a Stortsak Jess bag with DD and it was great - will be dusting it down and using it again. They're not that cheap but I got it as a present when I left my last job (along with the baby monitor that we still use!)
Welcome to all the new joiners - I still haven't got a due date buddy, here or in the March thread (due 31st)
23+0 (woo-hoo!)

Jsa1980 Sun 02-Dec-12 09:58:59

Hi miss muffed when are you due? I'm due on 6th.

Hohhot changing bags, I was just going to get the free one from boots parenting club but there are so many lovely ones out there I might splash out as we'll be using it for years so it's an investment right?

Trishstar Sun 02-Dec-12 10:17:38

Thanks for the suggestions on bags ladies!!! Lovely scan news too!!

I'm working today so can't look at bags yet!!!!

Can you please post links if you find anything fab? Thanks! x

angeltattoo Sun 02-Dec-12 11:00:06

Morning ladies, just marking place.

Went to NCT sale yesterday, bought a tiny pram suit!

I bought a big bag for a hospital bag from Primarni for £10, i may just use this as a changing bag depending in how it fits with my pram. I change things like that quite often blush

Have picked car seat too, am asking mum for a comprehensive list of what she's bough at christmas (she has been going crazy since I told her at 6 weeks, despite me asking her not to buy anything until after the 20 week scan!) then really getting organised after christmas.

She's been trying to tell me I don't need to buy anything, any ideas how i impress on her my need to prepare for my own baby?!

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Sun 02-Dec-12 11:09:23

We researched and picked out a car seat too. Thankfully we didn't buy it as I found out last week that our council loans out new ones for £35 deposit, which you can then swap when you need the next one up. Fantastic.

Missmuffet28 Sun 02-Dec-12 12:00:36

Aww jessie you'll just have to be my no due date buddy instead I'm not until the 14th but that doesn't matter!

angel just tell your mum that you would love to get some bits for yourself as coo-ing over it all in the shops is half of the fun and she wouldn't want you to miss out on that would she! Even if she insists on paying for it! Can't say I'd be upset at that prospect grin

flamin what a fab scheme that is!!! That'll save you a few hundred for sure! More to spend on a bag eh!!

Bags!! I couldn't resist looking! I'm living the look of pink lining ones all cute and chic on the outside then bam shocking pink inside just my cup of tea! They are really expensive tho even on ebay at the mo, so prob out of my league unless I ask Santa maybe or my birthday is in January hehe! Someone mention they had one of these already? How did you find the practicality of it?

lutrinae great vessels has to be a compliment right!!!

mama as always looking forward to your update

Hope everyone enjoys the rest of their Sunday!


FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Sun 02-Dec-12 12:20:24

To be honest, I'm not really interested in changing bags. A bag's a bag to me and I'll probably end up using a carrier bag coz I'm such a saddo.

I will however use the savings to buy lots of as close to pink babygros for our little boy as I can get past my husband grin

MumOfTwoCats Sun 02-Dec-12 12:39:59

Hey missmuffett I'll be your due date buddy! If I may join please? I have been lurking and as we have had good results so far I think we may be ok! We are having a surprise! First baby!

21 weeks today

JaquelineHyde Sun 02-Dec-12 12:40:21

Hello everyone, thank you for the lovely new thread. Half way there eeeek!

Flamin that's brilliant, I will have to investigate and see if our council does that but I doubt it!

DH and I are arguiung over changing bags as he will be doing the majority of the childcare once I go back to uni so he wants something plain and manly hmm So I suspect we will be getting two grin

I'm 34 and my quad test came back as 1 in 19,000 which I was told was very good. However, I don't think it matters how high it gets as long as it doesn't get into the low hundreds IYSWIM?

I think dh and I will be buying everything we can second hand as we can't afford to buy everything new and once you have got the few big items you need there isn't really muh else you need. I should make a list!

birdbrain17 Sun 02-Dec-12 12:54:23

Hi everyone. Can't believe I haven't been online for a couple of days and so much has happened, and a new thread!
Just marking my place on here and will catch up properly later.
welcome to all the newbies and jacqueline so glad everything is okay.
have a great sunday smile

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Sun 02-Dec-12 13:04:49

Jacqueline I'm in a remote area of Sweden. I have a feeling that being so remote, and hardly ever seeing a police car or another car even, may have led people to not bothering in the past. I think the council brought in this scheme to address this problem.

JaquelineHyde Sun 02-Dec-12 13:56:29

Aaahhh I see, when I lived on Shetland it was spretty much the same so I understand why they would do that, bloody good idea too!

Missmuffet28 Sun 02-Dec-12 14:34:39

Yay welcome mumoftwocats of course you can join! And congratulations! X

ratbagcatbag Sun 02-Dec-12 14:36:38

Marking my place. Feeling slightly better today but decided to try and get the final few bits of Xmas presents and my damn Achilles' tendon has bloody done something again, cue a pathetic limp back to the car and the offending ankle on ice whilst I mumsnet finish my shopping on line. smile

SneezySnatcher Sun 02-Dec-12 14:57:25

Quick question. Is anyone else getting braxton hicks already? I've been getting a couple a day (not at all painful). They do stop if I lie down/ change position but it's unpleasant.

Don't remember ever getting them with DD so I'm a bit freaked out!

wishfulthinking1 Sun 02-Dec-12 17:22:45

Hmmmm sneezy you've made me consult google about Braxton hicks- I think I've been getting them for aaages! Every now and then my tummy gets all hard, I assumed it was the baby pushing against my tummy, but from reading it actually sounds like Braxton hicks. I remember talking to someone about it unthread and saying 'nah, it's just the baby's position' but perhaps I was wrong!
22 wks today!

kellestar Sun 02-Dec-12 18:15:45

empress we had most stuff for DD second hand apart from mattress and car seats. Cot was £15 off a friend, bought a new mattress. Maclaren XT lies flat and is suitable for new borns, £45 off eBay. We also bought a M&P swing crib from eBay, local collect for £30, bought a new mattress, it was small enough to fit in our room as she was so small the cot was too big really. Loaned SiL's moses basket, but the sides were too floppy and she kept almost rolling out, so sent it back to SiL. Obviously crib will be coming back out the attic for DC2 and I'm probably buying a P&T E3 and selling on the Maclaren XT. There are nicer things to spend money on. I loved my moby wrap sling, it's long and stretchy and is great for big curvy types and DD spent plenty of time in there.

Bambino29 Sun 02-Dec-12 19:03:37

Hi everyone, haven't posted in a while - been insanely busy! Am twenty weeks today and have my scan tomorrow - so excited to find out what we're having but also pretty nervous!

Loving the tips for changing bags - haven't bought anything yet as wanted to wait until scan was done so, providing all's well tomorrow, will be hitting the shops hard!

Sneezy - thi I might have been having braxton hicks - like Wishful, I thouht it was the baby pushing up against my tummy but it does go very hard every now and again.

birdbrain17 Sun 02-Dec-12 19:12:31

been looking around a bit today and wondering if anyone has recommendations of what buggies are good to buy. My sil is giving us a car seat as they had twins so have a spare one, so I'm not looking at travel systems which I would have otherwise I want to get a good buggy that is suitable from birth but will last a couple of years. I'm not worrying about price at the moment first I want to see what is out there and then we'll decide how much we can afford.
p.s any tips on what else to buy would be great I've been reading different lists online but good to hear what people actually needed
22 weeks!

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Sun 02-Dec-12 19:17:18

I've bought a bugaboo chameleon. Luckily I managed to find a really nice one second hand. Husband was so relieved he didn't have to get a new one.

caliope Sun 02-Dec-12 19:26:25

Hi all,

We had our baby gender party this afternoon and when we cut into the cake it was..... BLUE! so we're having a boy! It's our first so really didn't mind what we were having but I must admit it's really nice to know and now I can refer to my bump as a him!

So please change one of the surprises to a boy for me!

As for changing bags my mother-in-law very kindly bought me a Radley one in the House of Fraser 40% sale today so I feel very spoilt! (I'm certainly getting most of whatever else I need 2nd hand!)

SneezySnatcher Sun 02-Dec-12 19:35:23

Flamin we have a Cameleon too. We had it for DD and I loved it. It's lasted well and I'm looking forward to using it again!

Teapig Sun 02-Dec-12 19:58:20

Welcome to the newbies! Wow, we're halfway through, can't believe it!

Went to my first NCT sale on Saturday and it was great, picked up lots of clothes and books for next to nothing and it was great fun. Thanks for starting the changing bag discussion Trish, that's something I'd been thinking about.

I've seen a pram that almost looks too good (i.e. cheap) to be true, it's a Graca Quattro and is about £300 brand new for the whole travel system. Has anyone used one before and know if it's a real bargain or if there's a catch?

DH and I are really struggling on girls names. So far we have one and are desperately need of inspiration, if anyone has ideas please do share. We don't want to go too traditional but also not totally off the wall.


EssexWelsh Sun 02-Dec-12 20:28:55

Loving the Pacapod bag, had always wanted the cowboy print Cath Kidston one even before pregnancy but now seeing how practical the Pacapod is I'm sold! Also it matches our pram perfectly and is man friendly, so DP will use!

And think we got the name today-Blake, not sure where I saw it yesterday but suddenly thought it was a great name plus told DP and apparently it's Robin in Batman's surname, so he likes it-did I mention I do worry about the genes I'm breeding with &#128521;

steph2412 Sun 02-Dec-12 20:29:31

Teapig i would have a really good think about the pushchair and its practability. When we had first dd i got a new chicco travel system it was 300+ but we only hax it 6months it was to big and bulky to hard for me to fold and hold dd on my own etc!this time there r lots of pushchairs i like but just cant make a decision!

Giddypants Sun 02-Dec-12 21:18:29

Evening everyone, just marking place hope your shift was ok faith my feet are on fire after mine! Back on Tuesday.

toobreathless Sun 02-Dec-12 21:25:24

Just quickly popping in before I head off to my night shift:

Lovely to hear about your gender reveal party Caliope congrats on your boy.

Welcome to newbies jsa1980 and ilovenoodles

16 girls
18 boys
14 surprises

toobreathless Sun 02-Dec-12 21:33:17

On Changing Bags:
I have a PACAPOD and have used it daily since DD was born. I have the brown leather satchel one, DH would definately not be seen dead with anything girly. It was expensive (£175?) but DH gave it to me for Xmas 2011. I highly recommend them, I think you get them from about £50? The pods are brilliant, means you don't have to take whole changing bag into toilets etc & the pods will clip onto the buggy individually if you don't want to take the whole bag out. I also can't fault their customer services, our main zip broke after a year, I emailed them a picture and sent them the main bag (they told me to keep the pods) & they just sent me a new one complete with new pods and changing mat!

Trishstar Sun 02-Dec-12 21:37:41

My travel system is the baby style oyster. We got a really good deal on it so have all the bits til little man will be 2.5/3, and then for the next DC we can change the colour pack on it if need be. We've got the ocean colour pack (a teally blue)


kellestar Sun 02-Dec-12 21:42:57

A friend gave us the graco quatro travel system, she'd had it six months, it was clean and shiny and looked nice. But I hardly used it as it was such a heavy pram to get in and out the car and was hefty to handle loaded with a small baby, change bag and a little shopping. Bath was a nightmare and i dragged the graco backwards up a small hill in frome. I passed it on to another friend after about 3 months use and acouple of weeks ago a wheel broke off and it was irrepairable, she had it just over 6 months. Though it was stood in our garage for 6 months it had less than 18 months of light use before failing. Also didn't fit in the boot of a fiesta unless the parcel shelf was removed permenantly. I couldn't believe how light and easy the maclaren is in comparison. Weight is the only thing putting me off the p&t.

Also check the reviews section of MN can give good advice too.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 02-Dec-12 21:46:51

Thanks giddy it was really hard work! Think I've been having Braxton Hicks actually after some googling! A bath and a big drink seem to have settled it. Hope your night shift goes ok too.

I saw a really nice Cath Kidson changing bag actually. I'm not that into her stuff but it was great! It's not something I'm particularly thinking about yet!

We're still looking at travel systems. Budget isn't massive DH has vetoed my Quinny dream and it needs to fold quite small as we only have a Polo. Suggestions for the folds up small/around £400 mark gladly received.

Rivergirly Sun 02-Dec-12 22:13:16


on the change bag front I have a skip hop change bag - bought when I had DS2 and it was fab - lots of pockets to put things in, big strap to carry and little velcro straps to attach to various pushchairs! Mine is plain black as it went with all previous pushchairs.

I am defo opting for a travel system - so much easier when out in the car to offload a sleeping baby in the car seat and onto the pushchair without waking it. But I don't know what I want - my two options are either a Mamas and Papas pliko pramette - I had just a normal pliko before which was fab and used for both my boys and bonus built in toddler step or the lovely looking quinny buzz - cos of the lovely big wheels which are always so much easier to push but it doesnt have the biggest shopping basket in the world and I do like to walk to the shops when I have the option.

Still mega excited that third time round we are having a girl - bought a few little pink things this weekend but my head still doesnt quite believe we are having a girl!!!

oh and got a bargain m&p cot from a friend the other day for £30 like new - trying to save as many pennies as poss for the travel system!!!

20 + 3 days edd 18th april xx

ILoveNoodles Sun 02-Dec-12 22:21:32

Hi everyone! Thanks for the welcome and the reassurances about the oods for downs.
Had a busy day we went out for my DP's nans bday and I ate soooo much thought I'd explode!
step2412 and trishstar its nice to have others with same due date!
Trishstar this is my second I have a little boy already.
As for names we have a couple that we liked from having our son but obviously didn't use as he was a boy.
I don't have to buy a new buggy just yet as I still have my travel system from my son, along with matching changing bag and footmuff! Its black so is okay for a girl this time round. Its a pilko pramette.
I haven't bought anything yet I can't get motivated to I'm gonna need to at some point though as gonna need some clothes. We have some friends who are passing on lots and I want to go to an nct sale heard they are really good so hoping to sell my boys stuff and get girl stuff.

usernamegoeshere Sun 02-Dec-12 23:00:09

oooh welcome more new people!!

I had some braxton hicks already, originally I thought was baby curling up in a weird position but that was just cos it kept happening at 5am when I was groggy, when it happened in the day time it was easier to judge what was going on.

Also (sorry if tmi...) my nipples are weird, is a black mark on one like dirt but I scrubbed it & its not. Dr Google has reassured me that its fairly normal and my nipple probably won't fall off.

And my bellybutton is dissapearing. I took the piercing out about 5 weeks ago, now its literally getting more shallow by the day with extra skin inside (thats a bit sensitive) & one side is like a ramp now.

So yeah, thats my weird symptom check for the day, sure I will be back tomorrow with new ailments.


Ollibobs Sun 02-Dec-12 23:16:15

Hi everyone! Haven't posted in ages, but have been reading everyday.
Our scan isn't until December 11th, which seems like ages away! The suspense of finding out if it's a boy of girl is killing me! Although, I have a feeling it is a boy, although, can't say why exactly - just a feeling. It's our first child though, so I have nothing to base that on other than a hunch.
Love the baby name/push chair/changing bag talk. We have a girls name picked out, but nothing at all for a boy!
I've been researching pushchairs like crazy the last few weeks. At first I was dead set on the Bugaboo Cameleon, but now I'm leaning towards the Uppababy Vista. Unlike the Cam, the pram is suitable for regular overnight sleeping, so negates the need for a Moses basket and it comes with the car seat adapters. The basket is huge and is accessible with all seats (unlike the Cam). Plus it can be parent facing, has a built in additional sunshade and adjustable handle. I had a push around John Lewis and it was like a dream.
However, like all things that seem too good to be true, the downfall is the price tag. At £600, it seems a bit over the top.
Trying desperately to rationalise shelling out the money, but just can't seem to bring myself to do it. Haven't bought a thing yet, as waiting for the scan first....
Am eager to hear views on other cheaper travel systems.
(Sorry, that was a long one! blush)

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Mon 03-Dec-12 00:41:19

Huh? Is the Bugaboo Cameleon not suitable for overnight sleeping then? I thought that was the whole point of getting the carrycot bit confused

toobreathless Mon 03-Dec-12 01:57:39

FlaminNora not all carrycots designed to fit onto travel systems are suitable for overnight use, it depends on the mattress and how they are ventilated, some are, you need to check with with brand.

Faith I have a 2011 Polo and two Quinnys: the Buzz and Zapp. I recommend both, for different things, the Buzz is perfect for a newborn and does fit in my boot with the carrycot, you just have to take the front wheel off which takes about 20 seconds. The Zapp is a very lightweight stroller which folds up tiny but is only suitable from 6 monthsn.

To those buying travel systems for the first time it is worth considering that most people (well people I know anyway!) seem to use them for a relatively short peroid of time then get a stroller/MacClaren.

Mama19080 hope you are baby boy are continuing to get on OK, Alexander is such a lovely name, so strong. I am very impressed your DD gave him such a mature and thoughtful name! If my DD got to name no2 I suspect it would either be 'bubbles' or 'daddy' but she is 19 months grin

Night shift going OK here, unfortunately DH is on a course tomorrow and worked today so was up with DD this morning and will have her all day tomorrow. No sleep for me! DH usually has mondays off so she doesn't go to Nursery. Luckily I have never needed much sleep.

Morning everyone! Anyone else got insomnia? Mama, how are you doing?

Got 28 week scan appointment through for seventh january,so not too long to wait. Can feel baby kick loads more.

This is baby number five for me, it's funny but when I had dd1 we lived in town and my phil and ted was absolutely invaluable. Now we live in the country and I didn't bother once with i t I drive everywhere and use a sling when I get there. Not environmentally friendly at !

Teapig Mon 03-Dec-12 08:06:05

Thanks for all the advice on travel systems. Kellestar thanks for sharing your experience of the Graco Quattro, I will definitely think carefully about that.

Giddypants Mon 03-Dec-12 08:31:27

Morning everyone, I have my first growth scan today, and a check to see if the notches on my arteries are still there, DH can't make it so mum coming with DS.

Really in two minds whether to find out the flavour, I really want to know but then I don't.

Lots of movement here thankfully going to sleep when I sleep but is up and kicking when DS wakes me!

Missmuffet28 Mon 03-Dec-12 09:10:14

Lucky you giddy mine wakes up when I get in bed! Keeps me awake a while especially when kicking against the bladder sort of area that's very uncomfortable the little monkey!

Good luck with your scan today also I think there is a big stigma attached to finding out the sex sometimes, I just looked at it as tho its a surprise whenever you find out whether its when babe is born or at scan just if you find out before you can prepare slightly! When I was sat in waiting room I thought I changed my mind and didnt want to know because then the surprise was all over but actually I'm glad I stuck to my guns because I have already picked up some really cute stuff not saying neutral stuff isn't cute but sometimes the gender specific stuff is very cute grin

My MIL has made a big deal out of not wanting to know infact me and her have come to blows a little about this pregnancy but that's a whole other story! At the end of the day it's my baby I wanted to know and that's all that matters anyone else that finds out is just fallout I'm afraid unless they genuinely want to know then I tell them!


EmpressMatilda Mon 03-Dec-12 09:26:10

missmuffet My mum was adamant she didn't want to know so though we told my dad and sister and MiL we didn't tell anyone else and those 3 had to keep it secret. It worked well for about a week then my mum gave in and asked dad!

giddy Could you get them to write it down and put in envelope so you have the option?

Thanks everyone for the discussion about travel systems and prams. It's very helpful for first timers like me. Still not convinced we need the pram and pushchair but if we do decide to get them I at least know they can be got cheap!

Definitely going to buy a cot and mattress though. Can't do without that! Someone mentioned Boots have a baby club. I have loads and loads of Boots card points saved up so will check that out.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 03-Dec-12 10:36:56

Hope it all goes well today giddy.

I'm off to see my GP in a bit. I had a did I dream that moment but DH confirmed that I did in fact throw up in my sleep last night (lurvely!). I'm definitely not right so best to be checked out!

I joined Boots baby club. They've sent me a magazine etc through the post already!


somewherebecomingrain Mon 03-Dec-12 11:50:10

hello all - marking my spot

JaquelineHyOnChristmasSpirit Mon 03-Dec-12 11:58:36

Morning everyone

I am in agony the whiplash has well and truely kicked in today and I am fuming at my Drs who despite me being in floods of sobbing tears down the phone on several occassions still haven't rung me back to advice whether or not they will prescribe some kind of pain relief that DH can go and pick up.

I can barely move but apparently because my Dr is off today I have to wait until all the other Drs have finished clinic before anyone will bother to ring me angry angry

I also can't get any reply at my midwifes for advice on what I can take over the counter.

So I am stuck in agony and no fucker cares angry angry

So for the whingy moan I just don't know what to do.

Crazytictac Mon 03-Dec-12 12:08:39

giddy hope your scan goes well today and the check up.

havealittlefaith hope you feel better. Is it ms or bug ish?

missmuffet yikes, your MIL sounds hard work! I think sometimes people forget that it's your baby first and foremost.

silentmammoth no insomnia here but I've found since I stopped drinking caffeinated drinks late afternoon onwards has made a massive difference. Can drop off to sleep like a man now whereas never used to be able to do so. Having really bizarre dreams though about people who I've not thought about in years and wasn't even friendly with.

Have had a look at the pacapod, they look fab so think I will be purchasing one soon! Thanks for the tips ladies. Still not feeling a lot of movement but there are definite occasional kicks now, usually early evening. Mad how two pregnancies can be so different.

Hope everyone else is well

Crazytictac Mon 03-Dec-12 12:14:46

X posts. Oh jacqueline sorry you're having such a rubbish time. I know from experience that they often won't prescribe anything for whiplash (sometimes strong pain killers, codamol(sp?)) but don't know what the position is with pregnancy. Your doctors surgery sounds crap, somebody at least should call you back. Could you see a physio privately? Know that is expensive and may not be an option but just thinking of suggestions.

ILoveNoodles Mon 03-Dec-12 12:39:37

I think this thread is sooo nice. I am really enjoying hearing about everyone who is at the same stage.

Insommnia here too but then I have always been a bit of a rubbish sleeper which only gets worse when pregnant.

Giddy I second having it put in an envelope I did that as my DP wasn'twith me but we wanted to find out together.

Jacqueline I'm so sorry to hear what you are going through. Even though we can't actually get to you we care.

Just a question is anyone having really bad back pains? I couldn't really move this morning and it took me 40 mins to wall myson to school on a journey that is usually 15mins.

jj247 Mon 03-Dec-12 12:51:23

jaqueline have you tried speaking direct to a pharmacist? Your DH should be able to ask them to advise on suitable over the counter pain killers if you aren't having any joy at the Doctors, at least as a temporary measure?

I have the babymule changing bag, it converts from a messenger bag to a rucksack, clips directly onto the bar of the pram, has lots of useful bags and sections so you just take the bits into the changing room you need etc. and looks like a plain black rucksack from the outside, so totally Dad friendly (they do lovely bright colours too, if DP/DHs don't mind!) on the inside it is red and the changing mat has a fab red japanese floral print so appeals to my girly side but DP can still carry it smile

Got my 20week scan in 1 hr!!! V nervous...


HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 03-Dec-12 12:58:09

Gp isn't sure what it is, has done some bloods and will ring me with results. Urine dip was negative. I guess it could be stress/anxiety...,its the anniversary of our house catching fire sad She did say it might be anaemia. I'm not back at work til Saturday night so hopefully a few days off will help me perk up.

Poor jacq, that sounds awful. Hope you hear from someone soon!

JaquelineHyOnChristmasSpirit Mon 03-Dec-12 13:37:55

Having you poor thing, I hope it turns out to be something and nothing. What happened when your house caught fire? Was everyone ok? Try and rest over the next week if possible.

jj247 Good luck with your scan.

The Dr has been out and I have been prescribed some pain relief, DH has just gone out to get it. Also advised on how to complete an ice massage which apparently will be as effective pain relief as most tablets.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 03-Dec-12 13:56:44

The fire was not as bad as it could have been - food processor caught fire, smoke detectors woke us up at 12.05am. Lots of smoke in the kitchen, lights tripped so we got out and called fire brigade. They came promptly but still fire damage to kitchen and smoke damage to the whole bungalow. It took 6 months to put it right. It was just the two of us (and the hamster who is still going a year later!) but it's caused a lot of anxiety.
I am thinking though its unlikely I'd be sick in my sleep from stress?! Ah well, at least 5 days off to rest and recover (I hope!).

Sounds like you've got a good treatment plan there. Glad you seen promptly!

Good luck with your scan jj!

usernamegoeshere Mon 03-Dec-12 14:00:46

Having if you were sick in your sleep did you consider acid reflux? I'm not completely sure but I believe that can cause similar symptoms in some cases.

LordOfThe5Rings Mon 03-Dec-12 14:04:53

Hi all was on the very first thread but haven't updated in absolutely ages!

I am due April 8th! I am 22 weeks today grin

She is doing absolutely fine, thank goodness and nearly destroyed my bladder yesterday! :D

LordOfThe5Rings Mon 03-Dec-12 14:05:50

^ Oh yes most likely acid reflux. I got that very, very bad last night. It stopped me from sleeping for a good 2 or 3 hours, it just burned.

Congratulations by the way to all the April mummies out there smile

kellestar Mon 03-Dec-12 14:08:44

jacqueline glad to hear you are finally getting sorted for some pain relief. The ice massage does do wonders, it hurts like feck at the time, but once it takes action it reduces the inflammation and is a relief, DH gets one done when his lower back has issues. I had it on my sprained ankle.

having sorry to hear you aren't feeling too great, hope the Dr has an answer for you soon.

DD had me in tears last night, she was incredibly cute. I went to bed earlyish and she came in with me for a bit. She wanted to speak to the bump, so pulled the duvet down and had her ear to the bump, she gave it some big wet kisses which was so cute, but then she wanted some cream to give the bump a massage. Bless her she did such a good job, considering she's not yet two. DH came up and found us and I burst into tears, he thought it was vair cute too. Having lots of overwhelming emotional moments.

magictorch Mon 03-Dec-12 14:49:32

Hi Everyone - haven't updated in a while but glad to see everyone is doing well on the whole.

Jacqueline am shock at your doctor, but thank goodness you have something now. Hope you feel better soon.

Username I read your post then had to lift my top up and check my belly-button out. I hadn't noticed it had shrunk!! I wonder how many of us did that when they read your post grin

I had a very sad weekend. I had to have my beloved pusscat put to sleep on Saturday. We'd been treating her for cystitis, but it got very bad and her kidneys were failing. I am bereft. The house seems so quiet without her and I keep thinking I hear her, or look round to where she likes to sit and just see an empty space. Am very, very sad and it's just as well I have a day off work as I still keep crying. I miss her so much. DH also cried and is trying to keep strong for me sad sad

In terms of prams, I wasn't really bothered by the name, but wanted something versatile, long-lasting, easy to use as I'm clumsy big basket and good value. I opted for the Mothercare Movix system and got everything I needed, including Group 0+1 car seat, for £425. The carry cot is also suitable for overnight use and you can choose a variety of colours and options. Pack includes changing bag, footmuff, hood, etc etc. I'd recommend it - probably not the most trendy, but great value for what you get I think. It's currently residing at my sister-in-laws as DH is superstitious (17 years together and I find this out!)

Interesting to hear how some of you have got on at NCT sales too. We went to one last week and were really disappointed. We're members, were first in the queue, which theoretically should have meant we got best pickings. However, we were let in after queuing 30mins (15 mins past when we should have been let in) and had watched the volunteers leave the hall first with bagfuls and bagfuls of stuff for themselves. It was like a swarm of locusts; when we got in, there wasn't much left that wasn't grubby or dog-eared. Plus, some of the advertised stalls that I had specifically wanted to see hadn't turned up. Not sure that we'll bother again tbh.

In terms of names, DH doesn't like anything. Everything I suggest is 'too gay,' or 'too Irish' (I'm half Irish!) etc. Grrrr. All he comes up with his the name of his footie team or 'Killer!' Men!

Started to feel definite movements this week too. Glad to know baby's OK in there and it's not just wind!!

Blimey, I seem to have written War & Peace...


Mama1980 Mon 03-Dec-12 15:32:07

Hi everyone, hope you're all well smile
magictorch I'm so so sorry to hear about your cat. I have a dog and cat who are both my shadows normally. Glad your dh is being supportive. How are you doing? Thinking of you.

kellestar that is so so sweet, I would've cried too!

jj247 I hope your scan goes well.

* jacqueline* what a nightmare! I'm so glad you have some pain relief now. Are you feeling any better?

havingalittlefaithbaby I hope you feel better/ get everything sorted soon.

giddy I hope your scan goes well

missmufett your mil sounds a nightmare, sending sympathy!

toobreathless yes bless her dd did take the choice of name very seriously. There were some less great options too but love the ones she chose. She is desperate to go baby shopping but I've said no until babe s here safe. Plus I know from experience he won't be wearing cute baby clothes for a while anyway.

Sorry if I missed anyone out I wrote a list to try to answer everyone. All is much the same here I had look drawn earlier for them to check the bleeding from the placenta. I'm so tired I can hardly even hold a conversation, I hate it. But I'm 23 weeks today. I have a scan on Wednesday then they'll give me the first lot of steroids for baby's lungs on Friday all being well. To be honest I just want to sit and sob I want my children, I want to go home. I want my baby born In April. But I also know I can do this i ave to believe it will be ok. Sorry for the self indulgent rant there but if I write it here I can smile in real life. Thanks

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 03-Dec-12 15:57:33

Bless you Mama! Vent away. It's such a tough circumstance for you. Try to hang on to the positives like being 23 weeks! It's ok to cry if you need to smile

Damn you lot, I have checked out my belly button and it is smaller! It's not as deep! shock

Curled up under a blanket on the sofa watching Dawson's Creek smile

bext Mon 03-Dec-12 16:22:18

Oh mama it's not self indulgent at all. You're so strong most of the time but you can't hold it all together all of the time. We can all be your ears for the rants so you can be strong in RL smile

And magictorch so sorry for you too. I'm full of cold so am in bed today and my two cats haven't left my side. I would be bereft if they weren't here.

Has anyone else seriously fallen out of love with their work since getting pregnant? I was starting to get to the stage where I was thinking about new possible career change anyway but since getting pregnant I really have lost my interest. I'm finding it so hard to motivate myself. I've always been really career oriented so it's an odd feeling. Is it just me?

And yes re belly buttons - how weird!! I've got mine pierced and just looked and realised the holes have moved to both be completely outside of my belly button now. (tmi sorry!). Freaky!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 03-Dec-12 16:27:53

bext work is just something I do to earn money at times. I changed roles back to my old job. I go in, get it done, come home and collapse. I don't hate it most days but I don't love it. Before I fell pregnant, I was desparately looking for another promotion opportunity b jobs have come up and I haven't even applied! I'm just happy to earn a living and come home and wait to have the baby smile

Missmuffet28 Mon 03-Dec-12 16:31:04

Lol!!! I actually checked mine out this morning too I don't think mines changed much i don't know though I didn't really take much notice before how did u test deepness did you stick your finger in it tehee!grin I too took my piercing out prob only 4 weeks ago or so it looks funny I don't like it sad let's hope I can get back into shape after April and have it redone yeah right haven't got back into shape after having the last one 10years ago!

Mama you are officially allowed to self rant as much as you like we all sat at home can only imagine what a hard time your having I only wish I could help you other than send my wishes on mn!

Sorry to everyone else feeling poopy jaqueline and having and anyone else I forgot! And sorry about your puddy tat magic I know what it's like one of mine went missing not so long back I cried for weeks I still don't know what happened to him and the one before that got poisoned at 9 months and didnt make it my poor little bert! I still have my ernie tho and my pooch but doesn't make it any less sad!

Thanks for those who sent sympathy re: the mil she really is hard work and funnily enough I spoke to her this afternoon on the phone for 20mins and she actually for the first time this pregnancy asked how I was and how it was going! That's a small clue to how funny she is for you!!

Missmuffet28 Mon 03-Dec-12 16:45:36

Oh my! Just also read Kate and prince William are expecting, she has been taken to hospital with ACUTE morning sickness and is expected to stay there a few days!! Lol royal toilet not good enough I guess! I can hear the Pregnant women all over the world chanting suck it up princess grin
I'm just being mean I obviously don't know whole story! It just tickled me a bit

milktraylady Mon 03-Dec-12 17:36:58

Hi joining the new thread.
Missmuffet I will see you a MIL and raise you an even more annoying mother! Mine refuses to know if it's a boy or girl (it's a girl) because she wants the surprise at the birth. Totally disregarding what me & my husband want. Grr.
Then puts the phone down because I didn't do what she said- v v controlling.

Mama I'm so glad you are still ok, really hoping you are staying pregnant for as long as possible.

I just read in Preg forum Kate is in hospital with Hyperemesis. Maybe this will mean more people hear about the condition- ie it's NOT just ms. I had it for 10 weeks and I'm a wreck now.

Saw a lovely doctor about all my anxieties today, will be getting some CBT treatment. Thankgoodness, as I am still worrying about everything!!

Giddypants Mon 03-Dec-12 18:17:34

Hello everyone, mama I admire your patience, I couldn't manage more than 2 nights in hospital before self discharging and going home! You have done so well, if letting off steam here helps, then rant away, we can't do much else to help.

jhyde hope you manage to get on top of your pain.

magictorch sorry to hear about your cat sad

I had my scan today, bp and urine all fine, the notches on my arteries seem to have gone, however there is restricted blood flow on my right artery, but my left one appears to be in good nick, I also asked if it was possible to tell the sex, she said she would write it down for me, so me and DH could find out together.
Anyway, put the probe on my tummy and got the biggest eyeful of willy and scrotum between a pair of legs!
His legs were stretched out over his head, she asked if I still wanted it writing down, I said no but please can I have a picture of that so DH can see what I've just seen! I should really put it on my profile, I will do later if I can get on the laptop, (MN doesn't like the iPad uploading pictures)
So I need my surprise changing to Boy!

Giddypants Mon 03-Dec-12 18:27:01

milktray my PIL are like your mum, they don't wish to know, I know they are desperate for a girl in the family, (3 grandsons so far, and another boy on the way)
My FIL said to his daughter when she went into labour, bring us home a little girl won't you? No pressure then!
I'm telling my friends on Wednesday at our weekly coffee morning, they have all said girl, they are going to get a shock!

Bambino29 Mon 03-Dec-12 19:03:59

Hey everyone, fleeting visit as off for dinner but thought I'd share our news - had our scan today and all's well. Having a little girl! So excited. Really makes it all seem much more real, doesn't it?!

Magictorch - sorry to hear about your cat - so sad.

Mama - so glad to hear you're hanging in there. Often think about you - so amazed by how strong you seem to have been. Keeping everything crossed for as long a pregnancy as possible.

EmpressMatilda Mon 03-Dec-12 19:05:57

missmuffet Haha! The whole media obsession is annoying me already. I just saw a headline saying 'Kate and William expecting baby -live coverage'. Of what? 'Here's Kate puking into the loo', 'here's Kate attached to a drip' <<resists obvious Prince William joke>>

How horrible to have the world watching your pregnancy. Especially before the magic 12 weeks are up.

Giddy So pleased it went well. What a great pic!

bunnygirl80 Mon 03-Dec-12 19:19:17

magictorch sorry to hear about your cat sad

jaqueline hope you get some pain relief sorted out soon.

mama keep on hanging in there, not long now till you hit the magic 24 weeks, then every day your little boy stays inside will make him that little bit stronger

havealittlefaith hope you feel better soon. Could the vomiting be down to baby's position? I had a work colleague whose baby wedged itself near her stomach and she ended up projectile vomiting when baby moved, poor thing

Loving all the talk of change bags, although I'm not a bag person. I got a very functional looking cheap change bag for DS that's still going strong now. Has lots of pockets and a built in change mat, and it's black so suitable for DH to carry too. My friend's DH is very envious of it, but then she conned him into getting her a $1000 Louis Vuitton one shock

Not much exciting going on with me. Feeling lots and lots of movement now, which is responsible for getting me up at 4am every day. Was the same with DS and he's remained similarly active all his life, so looks like I'm getting another bouncy child. You'd think after all these weeks of constant wriggling they'd at least be tired and want a little rest when they come out grin

Trishstar Mon 03-Dec-12 19:20:17

Giddy my scan was the same! Saw willy and balls before the sonographer even mentioned it!!! No mistaking baby is a he!!! x

JaquelineHyOnChristmasSpirit Mon 03-Dec-12 19:31:27

Mama you post on here as much and as often as you need to. I don't care if you rant, scream, cry, shout or just talk and talk and talk. Anything that makes it easier for you in the real world is ok by me. Thinking of you everyday and hoping Alexander stays put for as long as possible.

I'm also sick of the royal pregnancy already but DH and I think that Wills and Kate are stalking us and want to steal our lives as they ended up getting married the day after us and now they are trying to steal our pregnancy thunder grin

Still in pain here but the pain killers have relieved it just enough so I can be comfortable for about 3 hours at a go. Has anyone on here had whiplash before? What are the chances of me waking up tomorrow and being perfectly ok?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 03-Dec-12 19:44:36

Maybe bunny?! I think the suggestion of the night time sickness being due to reflux might be right - it was more like regurgitation and only a bit. There's norovirus at work (mostly patients) so it could be partly that. Doc seemed quite unsure.

jacq I've only ever had mild whiplash but I suspect it's something that'll ease off gradually.

I would hate the speculation that Kate and Wills have. I told a close colleague when I was 8 weeks (we shared an office and I kept running off to vom!) but I'd have hated the world to know. I've seen reports in the papers saying they weren't expecting it to happen so quickly. They've been married 14 months. If they've been TTC since they got married its actually taken a year! I saw a report speculating about how soon she'd get diffed because 'all royal couples in recent history had conceived within 18 months'. Poor woman just wants to stay with her head down the loo and there's all this speculation!

magictorch Mon 03-Dec-12 19:59:47

Thanks for all your kind thoughts. I'm still very weepy sad and really not looking forward to work tomorrow.

Bext completely get where you're coming from. I've always been quite career-orientated and have given my all to my company, but they're being pretty crap with me and I've lost all interest now. Biding my time and having an internal monologue as to whether I'll go back there or not after baby arrives. Most unlike me, but meh.

I feel quite sorry for Kate - she must be feeling like poo, worried about the 12 week point and now will have cameras pointed at her belly for the next nine months. Will be like having 10million interfering MILs at once. Happy for them though, they seem like a nice couple.

Thinking of you and Alexander, Mama

photochick Mon 03-Dec-12 20:03:58

mama moan away - I think you deserve it!
Magictorch we have gone for the Movix too - seems a good deal for everything you get, plus I am hoping to use the carrycot overnight in the early days, even if I have to get a proper sleeping mattress for it.
jaqueline sounds like you have had a bad time lately - hope you are feeling better with the painkillers.

Have been getting an irregular heartbeat but all the bloods and ecg have come back clear. No-one has seen that bothered by it and I feel ok but its disconcerting. Guessing I need to take it a bit more slowly and 4 days in London baby shopping last week didn't help! smile

Giddypants Mon 03-Dec-12 20:57:23

photochick I also have an irregular heartbeat, sometimes it skips a beat! I've been told its linked to stress, and I do feel that when I'm stressed the more it happens. Try not to worry about a lot of people have it and don't really notice it

Rivergirly Mon 03-Dec-12 21:56:24

loving the MIL talk - i think i can beat you all my MIL refuses to even speak to me and I have never entered her house - I don't take it personally though - she wouldn't like anyone that dared to take one of her sons away from her!!! I should note that the eldest son (in his 50's) is still living at home.

The girls I work with were all shocked when I said she refused to get in my car or speak to me recently at a family dinner - yes I am nice in RL it's just her that's the problem!

So unless my OH takes our baby girl to see her it is unlikely that she will ever have anything to do with her!!

and Mama I am sooooo pleased that you have got past the 23 week stage - now just hope your little man can hang on a bit longer and get stronger.

Teapig Mon 03-Dec-12 21:57:48

mama you can rant all you like, you are doing amazingly well and we'll all here for you any time.

magic I'm so sorry to hear about your cat, I have two and can only imagine how you must be feeling. Thanks for sharing your pram choice, I'm going to check out the Movix, sounds like a very good deal.

jaqueline I hope the pain goes soon, it sounds horrible and sounds like you've been utterly messed around by the Drs.

Congratulations bunny and giddy (and anyone I've missed) on your scans today, fab news!

bext I know what you mean about losing interest in work. I'm usually very career orientated but I've found my motivation is dwindling which is really unlike me. I feel like counting down to my maternity leave already even though it's yonks away.

toobreathless Mon 03-Dec-12 22:02:12

Lovely news giddy and bambino

17 Girls
19 Boys
13 Surprises

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 03-Dec-12 22:04:45

I've never met my MIL. She and DH were estranged until very recently (we think she has MH problems). We are gearing up to the introduction but she lives a long way away so it's tricky logistically. DH met up with her and told her I was 8 weeks pregnant - she put it straight on FB and couldn't understand what the problem was! shock

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Mon 03-Dec-12 22:39:21

I'm very lucky with my MIL, she's lovely. She's very excited about becoming a granny and wants to be involved as much as possible but is also extremely mindful and nervous about interfering. Having AS I'm not very good at picking up subtle hints but the hints she was dropping about being around when the baby is born were more like sledgehammers. Once it dawned on me what she was hinting at and I told here she was welcome anytime, she was besides herself with excitement. I just found out that she has told her employer she is retiring when baby is due so she can fly over and spend a month here getting to know him and helping us.

Missmuffet28 Tue 04-Dec-12 08:56:42

Morning all hope all is well good luck to any scan people today!

I'm off Xmas shopping with my mum this morning!
thou shal not buy more baby crap, thou shal not buy more baby crap!

Trishstar Tue 04-Dec-12 09:44:06

missmuffet I did Christmas shopping yesterday and still managed to buy a couple baby things!

Crazytictac Tue 04-Dec-12 11:05:08

mama as the others have said, rant away. Can't imagine how stressful this has been for you. I hope the next few days and weeks go by quickly and safely for you and your little boy ( and your other lovely children too).

magictorch very sorry about your beloved cat. They really do have such a special place in your heart. Sounds a very lucky cat to have had such loving owners. Hope you and your DH are ok.

There are a few with interesting Mils on this thread. Can be such a complicated relationship! You sound as if you've lucked out flamingnora, send her my way smile. I always tolerated my Mil as she could be difficult but her heart was in the right place. However she died very suddenly last year (and young really at 59) and I do feel very sad that she will miss out on DS growing up (and this baby) as she adored by DS and was very considerate where he was concerned.

JoRich77 Tue 04-Dec-12 11:11:13

Hi all

Glad to hear all your can news and sorry to hear from those of you who things are not going so well for. Mama hang on in there!

I have my scan in a weeks time, due 30th April so a few weeks behind you all. Me and DH still debating whether to find out the gender, I like the idea of a surprise but think knowing the sex will help with bonding.

Feel a bit down today as DH causing me all sorts of stress which I don't need, and seems to flip from very happy to moody and silent on a regular basis- I thought it was me that was meant to be hormonal. I love him to bits but sometimes can't help thinking easier if go it along which is scary thought.

kellestar Tue 04-Dec-12 11:39:14

Tattooedapril87 hope you are well, was thinking of you last night as I thought we had scans on the same day.

My IL are generally lovely but they don't think before they say things, they really offended DH yesterday [he works with them] and he lost his temper... he never looses his temper... honestly we've been together 15 years and not once has he ever lost it like he did yesterday. Poor chap is so stressed out and they are just being awkward buggers.

JoRich I do wonder if pregnancy is much harder on our other halves, they don't have the excitement and wonder of something growing in them, bonding is harder and they worry but keep it quiet and bottle it up, rather than just talking about it [like we would] DH really benefitted from the antenatal peer support group we went to last time, there was one for dads too, the first week or two was just a bit of looking sheepish at each other, but the lead dad was good, his partner recently had a baby and he said some sensible advice. DH was really scared at the birth but was so reassuring for me, he was amazing really. He had a really great time bonding with DD, made sure he had 'jobs' to do with the baby. Once baby is here it is easier for them to deal with.

I feel sorry for Kate, actually, the idea of everybody sticking their oars in. Ack, don't envy her at all. I feel sad that she didn't get to keep her secret for longer.

I thought I'd got over the morning sickness, woke up this morning and only just managed to scrabble out of the bed to the bin and puke up some water I'd drunk in the middle of the night.

Wore my maternity swimsuit swimming this morning, it's huge and the bust shelf offers no support so my boobs are sagging low and the band is rubbing my sore nipples. Getting the sewing kit out later and going to put a few stitches in to make it a little more supportive.

Trishstar Tue 04-Dec-12 11:44:32

On the MIL/Mother situation for us:

MIL is fab (tbh all of OH's family are ace) they have made me feel like family since day one ESP since we have only been together since Feb this year and got the BFP in August!

My MIL had 6 children but sadly her DC4 (24 year old daughter who had Rhett syndrome) passed away in June so it's been a sad time for us all but in a way has brought us all closer together and our little man is some good news for them all after this year! This will be her 5th grandchild but the first one where she'll be able to spend more time as she was previously always caring for her disabled daughter 24/7.

She's a fab Mum herself so has plenty of advise! And 2 of OH's sisters have children so lots of advice and things given to us from them!

My Mum is an absolute gem. Going thru some depression at the moment :-( but our little man is keeping her focused and more positive xxx

photochick Tue 04-Dec-12 11:51:53

JoRich I also have my scan next week - feels like we have had to wait ages since we are due at the end of April!
Sorry about the OH. In my experiance although my DH is excited its not as all-consuming for them (an he hasn't even been able to share in any kicks yet because my baby is keeping very well hidden! So its still a bit intangible). He did find reading some books at partners very helpful though as he feels more informed and in a way more involved.

kellstar I agree about Kate. I know she has chosen a public life but judging by the rubbish I have read this morning every single part of this pregnancy is going to be picked to pieces. I have found (to my great annoyance) that everyone seems to have an opinion on your pregnancy anyway, for her it will be a 1000 times worse! At least we will have our babies first and not be totally overshadowed! wink

steph2412 Tue 04-Dec-12 12:18:40

Hi all have just seen the mamas and papas zoom is reduced from 450 to 250 and its on my shortlist of pushchairs wete goin to test it next tues and if we still like it were going to order it! also i read on another post the baby event is normally on at end of jan i know they do good offers on nappies and wipes then!

jj247 Tue 04-Dec-12 13:31:03

Scan went well yesterday, although little bean was being camera shy and hiding behind his/her feet so we couldn't get any decent piccies sad Lovely to know all is progressing well though smile So, a "surprise" to add to the list!

Sending "get well" and "hang in there" wishes to all our poorly/injured tribe, especially mama you are being incredibly strong, I'm full of admiration for you. So pleased to hear the steroids start on Friday so Alexander will be strong enough to take on the world when he arrives x

On the MiL front, mine is lovely and sweet, but 75 and always scared of interferring, my Mum is equally scared of interferring but will no doubt give us her opinion without realising (she means well but just doesn't know when to keep her mouth shut - biggest classic was telling SiL that "she didin't expect her to bring her children up to the same standard that she did but...", apparently she meant in the same way, but obviously the wording was poorly chosen and it took about 6months for the dust to truly settle.) Biggest bug bear of mine is her fussing over DP in my home, can see her edging to do the same with bean when he/she arrives... she has already rolled her eyes over books I'm reading on it all "in my day there wasn't any of this, you just went into hosital and had your baby", have to bite my tongue and not respond... keep reminding myself that she means well... (not sure how well that will work when knackered and hormonal once bean arrives!)

MyLittleAprilSunshine Tue 04-Dec-12 16:37:27

How is everyone today? smile

I have utmost sympathy for those with terrible MIL and FILs. My partners parents can be okay, but they interfere a lot, have had arguments with my partner about me and other things that have lasted for months and have generally bad mouthed me before in the past so I really can relate there. I hope they will get better but if not, it's their fault why I don't visit them so often!

My little sunshine is busy kicking away today, despite Mummy having a stinking cold that makes my nose run every second and sneeze every other. My nose is as red and puffy as Rudolf's and I am drained of energy.

But otherwise, all is very good. I hope everyone else is the same smile

LikeCandy Tue 04-Dec-12 17:34:58

Hello ladies - so much to catch up on!
I am lurking / keeping up to date with you all, but life seems to be too busy to let me sit and type a decent post!
It's so nice just seeing how people in a similar situation are doing, I can almost guarantee that if I have a new niggle or issue I can come on and find someone else going through the same - so thanks to all of you for that!

I feel great, though look massive (and still spotty, when do I get to glow?!) and I'm enjoying being pummelled from the inside but mourn the rapid loss of my belly button!

Am I the only one who hasn't bought anything for baby yet?!


Mama1980 Tue 04-Dec-12 19:01:12

Hi just checking in hoping everyone is well? Crap day today have done nothing but throw up all day, babe really doesn't want me to eat! Also a evil locum dr tried and failed about a dozen times to put in a new cannula so my hand is all yucky, it didnt help that he was joking at the same time about how he was usually good at this etc. felt sorry for the guy who was embarrassed but seriously?! Not helpful to joke about your discomfort while stabbing repeatedly a sick pregnant woman! grin I'm 23+1 and have another scan tomorrow, I am hoping to be able to report good news for once!

I haven't bought anything either at all, I'm very superstitious and wouldn't be buying anything at all even if the circumstances were different. I do know that's illogical smile

twinklesparkles Tue 04-Dec-12 19:41:20

Hi guys smile

Can I join in smile
I'm 22 weeks, 23 weeks on saturday.

Expecting a little girl and I have a 5 year old ds.

Babys due the 10th and I also got given the 6th but they said they don't change the date unless its more than a week.

Have a few bits, moses basket,swing,playmat,steriliser and pram.
Quite a few clothes !! smile smile pink,animal print and hello kitty smile this poor child may be slightly overdressed ..... Only slighty of course


wishfulthinking1 Tue 04-Dec-12 19:53:33

Welcome twinkles- it sounds I've you've got most things sorted!

mama fingers crossed you get good news at your scan tomorrow and sorry you're feeling so poorly!

jorich - if it's any consolation my dh has been a mardy git the last week. I don't think it's anything to do with the baby- he's just tired from work and under the weather, but it can really wear you down,hey! How long have you guys been married? Is this your first baby? Hope you're feeling ok though- the fact that you're thinking of 'going to alone' sounds serious- have you spoken about it much to him?

To all those who have gone off work- SNAP! I seriously cannot be bothered- and normally I love my job! Don't want to be a party pooper but have any of you thought much about returning to work? I think I'll ask for part time if I can get it. But, quite frankly, I'd rather not bother at all! Financially we could just scrape by on do salary- but really only just and there'd be no breathing room. My folks have offered free child care 2 days a week, so it makes sense that we take it- they can't wait!!

Missmuffet28 Tue 04-Dec-12 20:15:22

Well I managed my shopping without buying anything for baby smile think I'm almost sorted for Xmas now rest will have to wait until I get paid next few days before Xmas eek! Dp is the only one left and to top it off his birthday is 3 days before Xmas also awkward bugger lol!

Welcome to thread twinkles you sound very organised! I hope to eventually be that person too!!

Mama sorry your feeling poopy my babe won't let me drink tea sad I already gave up coffee smoking and alcohol surely he isn't demanding I don't have tea either!

Snuggled on the sofa under a blanket with the dog and the halogen heater now so have a nice evening all


bunnygirl80 Tue 04-Dec-12 20:51:05

Sympathies to those of you with horrible pils. I'm lucky with mine, they are both absolutely fantastic with DS and are very very good at keeping their opinions on child raising to themselves. In fact the only comments I've ever really got from mil over my parenting choices are about how lovely it is that I got so much help with bfing whereas she was told to stop bfing all three of hers at 6wks because they were gaining too much weight confused Living on the other side of the world probably helps, because it certainly stops any chance of her popping round unannounced grin

My mum on the other hand wasn't backwards in telling me she thought it was wrong that DS was sleeping in our room when my DH needs his sleep to go to work the next day, or that I shouldn't be letting DH cook dinner when he's worked all day and I'd been at home. The fact that DS used to cluster feed every night at dinner time, and I wasn't a good enough mother to figure out how to bf while standing over a cooker without risking setting poor DS on fire, was lost on her.

So, mil is coming over to help out while I'm in hospital and after the birth, and my mum isn't invited until dd is at least 2 months old and we're hopefully established in some sort of routine. I know my mum's upset about this, but she might be more upset when I try and stab her when I'm all postnatal and hormonal and she opens her big mouth and pushes me over the edge grin

MumofWombat Tue 04-Dec-12 20:58:49

Fed up of the heat, it was 24 degrees outside here at 4am.... So I'm struggling to sleep, and having a little one using my insides as a trampoline, and DS cutting a tooth REALLY isn't helping!
My MIL is an interesting character. She's great with DS unless the other grandchildren are around and then all get ignored in favour of one of them. I just wish having a favourite wasn't made soooo obvious. She also goes on and on about how great boys are, and that girls are horrid bitches (yep, her words....) considering DH and I are thrilled to be expecting a girl, I'm hoping she realises to either never say it again or be prepared for my response....
Now my BIL and SIL.... Well, lets just say that neither of them have yet managed to acknowledge this pregnancy let alone say congratulations. I think they liked it when my DH lived alone and they could use his house as a holiday home and I've come along and ruined it for them. I could tell you about the absolute hissy fit BIL had when he was asked to return a set of keys to our house so I could have them rather than pay out the $00s it was going to cost to get new house alarm fobs but you wouldn't believe a grown man could behave like that. You see they never told my DH that the 6 of them would be coming to stay, they'd just arrive and let themselves in....(woh, just having a flashback to the hissy fit MIL had a few weeks ago when she found out we had decided to decorate the middle bedroom for DS to move into. This was the room she had always slept in.... BIL and MIL very alike!) Ho hum, Christmas is going to be fun this year isn't it! I should add that DH takes after his father and FIL is lovely. He's excited about there finally being a girl in the family.
Loving hearing all your news!

bunnygirl80 Tue 04-Dec-12 21:37:29

mumof hope it cools down a bit for you soon. We left the uk on Thurs morning and it was 2 degrees, arrived in Sydney at 9pm on Friday and it was 28 and super humid. Saturday was 37 during the day, and it didnt get below 27 all night either. Couple that with a very jetlagged DS deciding the only place he could sleep was on my tummy with his face buried in my cleavage, while the baby got pissed off with having her little home squashed and kicking all night long, and I had a very long sweaty night of lying there wide awake. Luckily it's cooled down to much more civilized temperatures for now.

tattooedapril87 Tue 04-Dec-12 22:12:26

kellestar thanks for thinking of me- scan was last wed so could have been me!

we wanted to have the sexes written down to open on xmas day but our hosp wouldst write it down: against policy apparently... so we now know we are having two boys!!

scan generally went ok- both weighing similar to what a single pg baby should be which is great.
only thing is we had to be referred to a specialist as twin1 has talipes (clubbed feet less him). during the specialist app it was picked up that twin1 also has strange heartbeat-heights of 190 and lows of 90 during scan.

specialist says she believes it to be nothing to worry about- but wants to check it again next week to be on safe side. structuly heart was great etc but it still worries us!
it feels reassuring that they are monitoring this- and now i know where each one is laying i can tell which one is moving so that's good too.

generally I've just been lurking as I'll feel more confident after next check up.

feels nice to.keep uo with everyone else's news- mils and all!!

21 wks

toobreathless Tue 04-Dec-12 22:35:27

Yay for twin boys tattoedapril and welcome * twinkles* congrats on your girl! Also lovely news from jj which takes us to:

21 boys
18 girls
14 surprises

What will I do when the scans are finished? grin

bext Wed 05-Dec-12 00:17:49

likecandy I am with you on the feeling spotty thing. My chin looks like a teenage boys and I just feel fat. I don't look pregnant at all, just like I've eaten shed-loads of cake. I'm not usually too precious about my body, just take it for what it is but I'm feeling a bit glum about my general spreading! Esp with office Xmas party this thursday -what to wear?!

And hang on in there for me toobreathless - I've got the last due date of April 30th and they're making me wait until 21+2 for my scan so not until December 20th. seems so far away...

ILoveNoodles Wed 05-Dec-12 04:33:50

likecandy I haven't bought a single thing either, not do much as a sleepsuit!

Suppose I'll pinch some things up inn the sales if I find anything. To be honest this pregnancy feels a bit surreal, even though I have a massive bump, plenty of aches and pains, and we are all very happy it seems to be taking a while to sink in.

LikeCandy Wed 05-Dec-12 07:36:45

bext it's my chin too, which I guess is hormonal? I am really struggling with what to wear, nothing is flattering and most clothes just make me look fat.Pre-preg I usually wore skinny jeans and big jumpers and I've been sticking with that (just ordered a pair of over belly skinny jeans from Gap). I think I need to invest in some more fitted / stretchy / clingy tops to make me look more obvious!

noodles and mama I was thinking about why I haven't bought anything and I don't think it's superstition or anything like that. I think noodles hit the nail on the head, I am enjoying pregnancy but it's still feeling surreal that this bump will one day be a living thing out in the real world that needs its own stuff! It's overwhelming!


LikeCandy Wed 05-Dec-12 07:39:17

Oh and congrats to all having their 20w scans.
Omg tattooed twin boys how exciting!!
Come on team pink, we need to catch up!!

twinklesparkles Wed 05-Dec-12 08:49:01

Congrats on your twin boys tattooed smile I'm sure they are fine smile

Serious back ache today, have sent ds to school with dh.. I'm staying in bed! Christmas tree all lit up.

So hungry, I'm eating everything and anything right now .... Just give me foooooood lol smile

Have a great day everyone

Mama1980 Wed 05-Dec-12 09:16:27

Morning all. Getting very nervous before my scan so am ordering yet more Christmas presents online! Hope everyone is well and drive safe if any of you have snow.

JessieEssex Wed 05-Dec-12 10:16:07

Congrats on the boys tattooed. A very good friend's son had talipes and he had to wear special boots at night for a few years and is absolutely fine now.
Had quite a bit of snow here this morning and quite skiddy taking DD to the childminder's.
I haven't bought a thing for the baby yet, but we have lots of stuff left over from DD and have been offered most other things on loan by friends!
Think baby has hiccups at the moment - so cute.

usernamegoeshere Wed 05-Dec-12 11:28:02

Good luck for scans today!

I was going to go Christmas shopping, but the snow has convinced me otherwise... I think Ebay & Amazon will have to do.


EmpressMatilda Wed 05-Dec-12 12:53:21

Good luck mama

tattooed How exciting! Do they know whether they are identical or not? I have no idea about these things!

Jessie Wow. How can you tell it's hiccups? Mine is being very active right now I can feel a general bubbling with occasional proper thumps that I can see on the outside. But no way of picking out exactly what's going on.

I am reassured by all the movement though. Spent two days in bed with a nasty cold. I kept having these horrible coughing fits that seemed to shake my whole tummy. But baby has carried on regardless. I guess he's well protected in there.

birdbrain17 Wed 05-Dec-12 13:01:03

omg there's snow in north west london! I woke up this morning with such a shock, it's freezing!!!found my old boots from last year but I wore them so much the grip has totally gone, oh well good excuse for a shopping trip I suppose.
I haven't actually bought anything yet, but my mil (who just for the record of the earlier conversation is amazing and I actually get on better with her then my mother!!!) has told us she's picked up a couple of neutral baby grows and some vests so I guess I'll just get a couple more as everyone told me they grow out of the first stage very quickly so I suppose we'll buy pink or blue for the next size up.

Is anyone else feeling a bit achy like they've overworked their muscles or someone's beat them up?! I feel so sore today but I really didn't do anything too strenuous yesterday....oh well roll on winter hols 2 and a half weeks to go I can't wait!!!!!!


jj247 Wed 05-Dec-12 13:05:42

mama good luck, thinking of you with your scan and sending positive thoughts your way. hope to hear good news soon and that you're feeling much better today than yesterday

On the "buying" front, I'm beginning to think my poor baby is going to feel a bit like a charity case. I've been lucky enough to be offered most "big" things such as cot, high chair, travel cot, moses basket, car seat from friends who have children or grandchildren that have outgrown them, then this week I picked up a travel system from freegle. Its a Jane slalom pro, so supposedly brilliant for going on uneven ground and came with the carrycot and car seat attachments which are virtually brand new. It does need a bit of work, (brakes and tyres which DP is fixing/replacing as they are just like his precious bike bits), but structurally is really sound. The main pushchair section and hood is really faded though, so I was contemplating dyeing it, then I thought, does this make me look like I don't value my baby, wandering round with a botched together second hand system and that maybe this is a step too far? confused I love little bean already, but I'm conscious that if i can save the £500 on this then I should do really... anyone else getting mostly secondhand?

MyLittleAprilSunshine Wed 05-Dec-12 13:08:23

I too haven't bought anything. I don't want to jinx it, worried something will happen to her if I start buying. I reckon I will though in January. She'll be around 28 weeks and if she decides to come out, at least she has a fighting chance then.

PIL for all their rudeness are sorting out a moses basket and a few other things. Sometimes I wonder if they are trying to over compensate by spending rather than being nice? Or maybe I'm really judgmental, I don't mean to be.

My Mum wants to buy a nice buggy/pushchair for her and perhaps a carseat. I'll probably get most of the little clothes for her though. But they are so small!

JessieEssex Wed 05-Dec-12 13:17:47

empress I'm pretty sure it's hiccups as they're little twitches at very regular intervals (every couple of seconds) and in exactly the same place. A very different feeling to the big thumps and somersaults that I get the rest of the time! When I was pregnant with DD I remember the same. Apparently they all do it at some point - it strengthens certain muscles. Love it.
jj go for the second hand, we nearly bankrupted ourselves buying a super-whizzy travel system for DD!

EmpressMatilda Wed 05-Dec-12 13:19:35

jj Sounds very sensible to me! We are very into second hand as well and my DH is also into fixing things. We will probably be doing very similar to you. I see our thrift as a manifestation of love! There will be far more important things to spend money on when child is older. I'm sure they care a lot more about being able to afford school trips and having some help with uni fees than what their pushchair looked like. That's my take on it anyway and thankfully DH is in strong agreement.
Anyone else's bump growth stalled? Mine grew so much over weeks 18-20 but I haven't noticed much change since then. I know all is well by the amount of kicking going on in there but it's just curious. Is there a pattern to it and if so when should I expect the next spurt?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 05-Dec-12 13:19:58

I've been buying! Little bits since about 16 weeks. I'm not superstitious and once we knew there was definitely a baby in there we thought we might as well. que sera, sera etc. Jjj most of our stuff will be on loan from my sister who has a DS who is 3. She isn't sure if she'll have any more but can't TTC until after our baby is born anyway (has to get some meds out of her system first) so she said we can borrow anything we need! Moses basket, washable nappies, travel cot, clothes, angel care monitor. Saving us an absolute fortune. Only big thing we'll get new is the travel system which my Dad is buying for us. I honestly don't think kids notice that stuff is second hand! smile


EmpressMatilda Wed 05-Dec-12 13:24:10

Jessie That's amazing I will scrutinize bump a bit more now. A lot of the movements are in the same place but not sure about regular.


lili86 Wed 05-Dec-12 13:28:22

jj, secondhand is nothing to feel bad about! Most of our stuff for this baby is 3rd hand as we got given alot from DS. With reguards to your pram, i wouldnt worry. They end up covered in sick, snot and food anyway and most people buy a stroller after 6months or so! No point wasting money if you dont have it spare!

Glad all the scans are going well! Got ours on Monday!eek!

Cant remember who was asking about braxton hicks, but ive defo been getting them for a few weeks!(dc2 and 19wks!)

usernamegoeshere Wed 05-Dec-12 13:30:41

JJ most of my big things will be presents from family. I know what you mean about baby feeling like a charity case but I think close family enjoy spending time choosing for the lil one, especially for first grandchild so I'm just gratefully accepting all offers and happy that baby will have so many people who obviously love her already!

enjay0811 Wed 05-Dec-12 13:59:16

bext ikwym bout Xmas works party outfit, can't find anythin tht doesn't look very underdressed like skinny jeans (having trouble finding over bump ones in stock so will chk out gap whoeva suggested tht thanks!) Or looks like a tent ie maternity dresses. Feelin very fat and frumpy atm sad

jjmy dd2 has lived in hand me downs from dd1 and sum stuff will get passed onto bump too like travel system, cot etc. Already had other things given to us 2nd hand too like bouncy chair and playmat. It wld b lovely if this one is a boy to give me a chance to buy some sparkly new clothes! Don't fork out loads if u don't have to I think! Only thing we've bought so far is a microwave steriliser incase I don't get on with bf.

toobreathless you're doin great job with the stats!

Good luck to all those still waitin for scans, lovely to hear about them.

21+4 I think? Seriously suffering with baby brain lately! [Blush]

Nuttyfilly Wed 05-Dec-12 14:09:53

Hi all! Had my 20 week scan today and im pleased to say im having a boy!! My son is over the moon as is dp! Hope everyone is pk

Nuttyfilly Wed 05-Dec-12 14:10:10

I mean hope everyone is ok!

photochick Wed 05-Dec-12 14:12:27

enjay0811 I have bought myself one nice 'party' outfit from ASOS - I will wear it to all the various events in the next few weeks. You have my sympathy as I am waiting for my roundness to look less like a big stomach and more like a proper bump and I am definitely mourning the loss of my waist!!

QueenofNightmares Wed 05-Dec-12 14:59:04

Well I've kind of been hiding in despair and anxiety since my last post worrying about the scan. We've had it today everything looks good I cried when I got to see the picture as the lovely woman we had was happily pointing out facial features seemed happy to pose! Despite crossed legs and turning its back on the midwife we are having a little boy! grin

I feel like I can finally relax and start buying things for him including the teeny weeny little baby shoes I brought today blush Total waste of time I know but I did cry over them so DH felt we had to buy them. I can feel the kicks more now too and I got a very strong one an hour before the scan which made me relax as if he was letting me know everything was fine <blubs in the corner>

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 05-Dec-12 17:16:43

Crikey Queen, I'm glad its all good now smile. Enjoy relaxing and shopping!

How mega cheesy is this - I was shopping for quality Christmas cards on funky pigeon and I found this card in fact they have a variety of cards from "the bump". I know its mega cheesy but I couldn't resist and have ordered DH one! grin

usernamegoeshere Wed 05-Dec-12 17:28:51

omg that is awesome. Its cheesy but I do kind of want to get one now, I mean if you can't be cheesy at Christmas when can you be....

Mama how was your scan?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 05-Dec-12 17:43:51

After so long of TTC, when I saw it, I decided it just had to be done! Figured this is the first Christmas I can do it!

mama hope you're ok.

birdbrain17 Wed 05-Dec-12 17:57:53

Just read a really encouraging article on bbc news about premature babies surviving, for those of you who worry about things like this read this

wishfulthinking1 Wed 05-Dec-12 20:23:32

havealittlefaith - thanks so much for the link- have just ordered a card for my mum and dad- brilliant!! X

wishfulthinking1 Wed 05-Dec-12 20:24:06

mama - any news? X

ILoveNoodles Thu 06-Dec-12 02:57:39

Hey every one hope you are all taking care in this weather.
I must admit I nearly slipped over and actually felt unbalanced and its only only gonna get worse. So I an off today to get a pair of boots with some proper grip.

You do know with all the talk about second hand I've been thinking and most of this baby's things will be second hand.
The only things new will be practical ie, matresses, bottles, steriliser, etc, when I actually get round to buying anything!
Also hoping mamas scan went well.

ILoveNoodles Thu 06-Dec-12 02:59:10


Tut! Tut! As my mum would say!

SneezySnatcher Thu 06-Dec-12 07:54:48

Blimey I wish this snow would disappear. I hate trying to get myself and DD about without falling over.

It doesn't help that last time I was pregnant I fell in the snow, my MW told me to go for a scan and I bumped my car into a wall on the way to the hospital!

Hoping everyone is fine and stays safe in this weather. Thinking of those of you feeling ill and especially you, mama.

Teapig Thu 06-Dec-12 08:08:48

Is anyone else yet to feel movement? This is my first and I am 21+1 today. I have an anterior placenta so perhaps that makes a difference? Any advice welcome.

I am all for buying second hand especially as babies grow so quickly.

Lovely to hear all the great scan news.

mama hope your scan went well too.

Welcome noodles! And how are you doing mama? You must be so close to 24 weeks now, you and your boy are doing amazing!

It's been great hearing about everyone's scans. We had ours on Monday and it was amazing! We are having a girl!!! DH and I are delighted and went straight onto eBay and bought a funky dress. The baby was moving about like crazy so the sonographer had to chase her around to get measurements, but all looking 'normal'. It's such a relief.

Now the bladder situation has righted itself too we can crack on with nursery planning and enjoying Xmas. Now there's snow I'm really in the mood! We'll it the decorations up tonight and ill bombard DH with The Fairytale of New York and All I want for Xmas is you on repeat!

What's your fave Christmas tune?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Thu 06-Dec-12 09:14:49

Teapig it may well be because you have an anterior placenta. When I first felt movement, it just felt like tickling! It's most noticeable after a really cold drink and when it's really quiet - try having a cold drink and lying in bed quietly and see what you notice.

Ah congratulations grow! Glad the bladder thing has cleared up and you can just enjoy the latter half of your pregnancy. My favourites are: traditional - Oh Holy Night (preferably the Michael Ball version but don't tell anyone!) and Non-traditional - All I want for Christmas is you by Mariah!

I am still suffering with this bad stomach. It's not much fun! I'm hoping it'll settle over the weekend!


angeltattoo Thu 06-Dec-12 09:43:22

Hi everyone,

Still not much movement here, I am desperate for it to start regularly (especially after a scare on Sunday, where I had to be monitored on the ante natal ward, but all ok so panic over) .

Re: buying stuff, mum and dad have kindly bought me an icandy cherry, we have to buy a car seat. So that's sorted.

Last week I ordered some basic vests and body suits in various sizes for my hospital bag, and today a colleague of my husband's has just passed on a massive bag of gorgeous bits, which are currently in the tumble drier. We also have another friend with a 5 month old little girl, she is lending us a moses baske, and will also pass on lots of clothes. So I am loving and am very grateful for the passed on bits!

That said, i have been told my mum has bought a ridiculous amount of stuff ( by someone else - she lies to me when i ask what she's bought!) so I have asked for a complete list by Christmas, and then I will know what I need to buy after Christmas.

We don't have any storgae room at the moment, as we are in a one-bed flat, it is on the market and hopefully it'll sell before baby comes, if not we will have to manage, but space will be tight! I have ordered one of these bags for now to put some clothes etc in.

I will have to buy a couple of those cards, I think!

birdbrain17 Thu 06-Dec-12 10:04:27

Hope everybody is wrapping up warm and taking care on snow/ice. Any recommendations of where to buy boots with good grip for a reasonable price would be appreciated!
I totally agree about 2nd hand stuff I mean kids only get more expensive as they get older so save where you can smile we're borrowing a moses basket for a few months and just picked a cot up last night from a friend of a friend who can't have more kids and were desperate to get rid of it so they gave it to us for free grin so that's £100 saved!!! and my in-laws have given us a budget that they will spend on a travel system/pram depending on what we find within their budget grin grin It's starting to get so real and exciting! I'm hoping to do a major tidy up of our flat during the winter hols to make space for all the baby stuff so I warned DH last night if he didn't want me to get rid of it he has to tidy up all his junk in the spare room...he was not happy at the thought of losing his "office" so we're going to set up a corner of the living room for his desk etc. as compensation.

mama please update us when you can...thinking of you!

hope anyone who was feeling ill is better now...only a few weeks till the bank holidays and then we can all go to bed wink

Trishstar Thu 06-Dec-12 10:14:49

birdbrain get some snow chains! I use them on boots/shoes! Great in snow and ice!


EmpressMatilda Thu 06-Dec-12 10:21:40

Feeling sorry for myself. Bad, bad cold. The toothache is back as well. I went to the dentist last week and they declared my teeth to be 'absolutely fine' and of course the pain had gone by then. But last night it came back. Going to see GP later today.

Really feeling like this should be a good time. My birthday coming up, then Christmas, and I really want to enjoy being pregnant for a bit.

EmpressMatilda Thu 06-Dec-12 10:24:33

Sorry that was such a moany post.

I just feel ill and like I've dropped into a time warp where I'm 22 weeks pregnant for ever! This week has lasted an eternity.
Hurry up Christmas!

jj247 Thu 06-Dec-12 11:05:06

Thanks so much for words of support re. secondhand stuff, i feel much better now (off to work on the pram after work grin)

teapig I've not really felt much movement either, Monday after the scan bean was super wriggly but before then and since nothing. i worry too, but keep telling myself to be patient and hopefully it will be a nice Christmas present wink

empress don't worry about whining, that is what we're here for! toothache is awful too, gets right inside your head and you can't escape it, it could be linked to you sinuses too so def worth trying your doctor to see if they can help, hope you're feeling better soon.

trishstar thanks for snow chain tip, off to look for some, super paraoid about falling over after a pg girl at work slipped last week, fortunately bump was okay but she is now having to manage with a 7 month bump, a 2yr old and crutches due to a broken leg!


toobreathless Thu 06-Dec-12 14:29:10

Lovely news from grow queen & nutty

Takes us to:

23 boys
19 Girls
14 Surprises

EmpressMatilda Thu 06-Dec-12 15:08:16

Thanks jj smile Do you work in the medical profession?! Just wondered as I saw the GP earlier and apparently I have a "bad case of sinusitis" (as opposed to a 'good' one?) which explains the toothache! So you were right. I've been prescribed bed rest and paracetamol (which was what I was doing anyway) with a prescription for antibiotics on standby though I am going to try to do without.

I am back in bed with the electric blanket on and I just opened our first Christmas cards (both addressed to us and 'bump' grin ) so am feeling happier about things.

trish Good tip about the snow chains. Given the amount of walking and railway station steps involved in my daily life I have been getting paranoid about slipping. I do have a good pair of snow boots though, which I bought for a holiday in Norway a few years ago, so am going to try them first and move to the spikes option if necessary.

Glad people's scans are going well.

22 + 6

Crazytictac Thu 06-Dec-12 15:22:26

Urgh lost my original post!

Congratulations nutty, queen and tattooed on your little boys. They are fab! And congrats to you too growourown on your little girl, there is so much gorgeous girl stuff in the shops at the moment.

teapig it's only this last week that I've felt proper movement and even then it's a few cursory kicks between 8-9pm and maybe the odd one in the day. I'm working on the theory that this baby is going to be calmer than my DS who was much more active in utero! Anterior placentas can really act as a buffer. I know of one woman who didn't feel a thing until 34 weeks pregnant.

empress hope your toothache and cold go quickly. No fun. Hopefully out of the way for Christmas. When is your bday? I've got quite sore gums which dentist said is pregnancy gingitivus. I sympathise!

havealittlefaith cool link. Am getting one for my mum, she will love it.

birdbrain fab link. Really interesting. Quite reassuring to look at the figures. Nearly there......

mama hope your scan went well. Thinking of you.

Hello to everyone else!

21 + 6

usernamegoeshere Thu 06-Dec-12 16:51:07

Ordered OH a cookie monster onesie from play.com (he a big wuss & always cold so I thought he might appreciate a onesie!) I thought it would be cute to get a matching sleepsuit for baby, but the only ones I can find are really expensive from American costume sites, so if anyone happens to see a shop that stocks anything that might do whilst baby shopping can you let me know!

The play.com onesie is here: onesie

jj247 Thu 06-Dec-12 17:16:41

empress, no, not in medical profession (I'm an Engineer!) but my DP suffered really badly with sinusitis and I got to hear all about it grin, he isn't one to complain normally so I know it must feel bad. Hope it clears for you soon

photochick Thu 06-Dec-12 17:20:37

Its reassuring to read others are also not experiancing much movement - people keep on asking but I have only felt the odd thing and am feeling a bit cheated! We have used a borrowed doppler out a couple of times this week just to put my mind at rest. Going to ask about the position of my placenta at scan next week.
hope you are doing ok mama.

user I had a quick scan of EBay and all I could find was this

There must be more out there somewhere!

So pleased to read all the lovely scan news smile

mama I hope all is ok, been checking for an update.

It's madness here this time if year. I'm madly rushing from one school/nursery performance, fete or Xmas something or other everyday it seems. I'm desperately trying to get my present shopping finished. It's such a nightmare. Ds3 only asked for 2 things one of which is out of stock on the entire planet. I had my Boots order stolen from my door step thanks to the stupid courier leaving it outside when I wasn't home so I've spent 3 days now trying to sort that. It was an almost £200 order too. I really hope they sort it asap. I feel so unorganised this year.

Although I do have the tree and decs up so not all bad grin

Sorry not had time to read all the way back on other thread. I will try catching up properly soon.

Take care in this hideous weather ladies smile

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Thu 06-Dec-12 18:00:32

I've just spent 2 hours digging my car out of the snow, which was not fun. My back is killing me now.

itsaruddygame Thu 06-Dec-12 18:28:29

JJ we are also getting a Jane courtesy of my Mum. They are supposed to be really hard wearing (I want one for the stables/walking across the fields with the dog) and I recently met a lady with a 9 year old one that was still going strong so I am sure your re-furb will do a grand job for you.

mama hope all ok - everything crossed for your scan results and that your steriods started today as planned.

flamin nightmare re: the snow - where are you? We never seem to get much round these parts (north west).

bird brain I have some brilliant ice grips for my shoes that I take with me when we go skiing. You can put them on any shoe/boot and they are easy to slip on and off (no straps to do up just studs on stretchy plastic that stretch over the toe at the front and heel at the back). I cant remember what brand they are but will ask my husband later if he knows!

Hope all feeling ill get better quick - I have a bit of a cold but luckily is not taking too much hold!!

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Thu 06-Dec-12 18:49:10

I'm in Sweden and we've just had a 2 day mega-blizzard.

KelleStarOfWonder Thu 06-Dec-12 19:06:52

usernamegoeshere H&M... I saw one the other day... but it's not on their website. I think it may have been a vest only, but it defo had cookie monster on it.

EmpressMatilda Thu 06-Dec-12 19:15:32

flamin I knew there had to be a downside to living in Sweden. It sounds so bloody wonderful otherwise!

KelleStarOfWonder Thu 06-Dec-12 19:18:09

itsaruddygame mine were from lidl! bought a few years ago, brilliant stuff, slip on my trainers or my walking boots. Was a worthy investment when I was expecting in December and was unbalanced wobbling about in the snow. Price is under a tenner. I recommend them to all my friends.

With all this ice and snow about [not in the SW yet] I've upgraded my autumn box in the boot to a winter version, extra snacks and drinks. I have a couple of snap to warm heat pads [disposable ones for back pain] extra mittens, scarves, hats, socks, tights and other extra clothes. I've also got my snow scoop, ice scraper [a wooden spatula which has a long arm] and a blanket. Most stuff gets used out and about, rather than when we breakdown, but best to be prepared.

Today has been a really busy day and I finally felt a bit better and have gained some energy. Finished preparations for DD's birthday in two weeks [three parties for my family, his family and DD's friends] and we plan on making christmas cards tomorrow, that's the last of the things to do on my list. We made jam and chutney last weekend and would like to make some marmalade as well, but time is short.

Teapig Thu 06-Dec-12 22:07:08

Thanks so much for the reassurance on movement faith, crazy and jj. I like the idea that kicks are to come and will be lovely Christmas present, great thought jj.
angel and photochick I hope we all feel lots of wriggling and kicking soon.

Bump seems to have suddenly got huge. I thought I was hiding it quite well on tuesday but today bumped looked BIG. I caught the tube for the first time in ages and was immediately offered a seat, even with my big coat I must look obviously pregnant, kind of made me proud smile

empress hope you're feeling better thanks

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Thu 06-Dec-12 22:45:06

If you want shoe spike thingies, search on Amazon for Yaktrax. That's one brand but it will them bring up all the others. I feel safer with the spikey ones rather than the chain ones but apparantly they all work just as well.

empress the snow ploughs were out all night in it which mean the roads were safe to drive on as soon as it stopped. That is of course assuming you can find your car under the 3ft of snow with 6ft+ drifts.

aufaniae Thu 06-Dec-12 23:06:38

No snow here but lots of rain. Sang "I'm singing in the rain" with DS on the way home tonight, which was lovely.

It made up for me not wearing a proper winter coat at the time, as there are none of my own I can do up any more! DP has gave me his a while back, but I've not been wearing it. It's not nearly as pretty as my lovely coat, but at least I can do it up! Any nod to fashion stops tomorrow I think!

aufaniae Thu 06-Dec-12 23:07:26

mama I'm thinking of you also. Hope you're OK.

usernamegoeshere Thu 06-Dec-12 23:28:23

I keep checking back in case of update from mama too, hope everythings ok & just having an internet break!

Cheers for the info on cookiemonster, I couldn't find anything on Ebay that looked right either but I will pop into H&M tomorrow, thanks!


Missmuffet28 Fri 07-Dec-12 00:02:10

I also hope mama is ok!

It's not primarily Cookie Monster I know but I picked up the sleep suit versions of

I can't find them on the website anymore but they had loads in store in the sale smile

No snow here in Somerset but temp must have risen slightly tonight as its chucking it down with rain at the mo!

I tried watching one born-what happened next, or whatever it was called on the tv but I couldn't I just turned into an emotional wreck hehe!! These hormones are funny old things eh cos usually I'm quite a tough cookie!
I'm laying awake cos of my wriggling bean as usual and dp is laying downstairs on the sofa cos he has a bad trapped wind feeling bless him! He also told me he's off to holland for a few days a week Monday, for work but none the less made me also sad! Im not usually that incredibly needy i swear! I'm blaming the hormones again sad

Missmuffet28 Fri 07-Dec-12 00:04:23

My link hasn't worked but iv no idea how to make it work either hehe so copy and paste job I'm afraid grin

EmpressMatilda Fri 07-Dec-12 00:16:59

mama Hope all is well.

flaming Ah yes, the efficient Scandinavians! I have a bit of a thing for that part of the world. Am definitely an admirer.

Thanks for your kind wishes. I think I am on the mend. Hopefully. It's just the wretched toothache. Apparently raw garlic onto the gums gives relief so I tried that. It works well for 10 wonderful minutes and then the pain comes back. Ah well. I'm sure childbirth will hurt a LOT more so might as well treat it as training!

And apparently our kitchen reeks of Olbas oil and garlic. I can't smell it at all as I'm so bunged up but DH's face said it all!!!

ILoveNoodles Fri 07-Dec-12 05:27:16

empress I'm sure clove is good for toothache obviously you'd have to check if its okay whilst pregnant though.

birdbrain17 Fri 07-Dec-12 10:59:15

Thanks for all the info on snow grips, are they good also if it's just a bit icy outside? My boots are 2 years old (and weren't great to start with) so when I say there's no grip left on the bottom I mean you can't even see there was any!!!!

two weeks today till I break up for holidays! It's so needed I was in tears last night about absolutely nothing, DH came in and asked what's for supper and I just burst out crying missmuffet I agree these hormones are a pain wink

EmpressMatilda Fri 07-Dec-12 12:00:03

mama Any news? Your disappearance worries us. Though totally get it might not be convenient for you to check out MN at the mo!

crazy Hope your gum pain is over soon too. I still have toothache but it's not as bad as it was. Birthday is Weds next week so I have a decent chance of recovering in time! Don't usually do much for it but this year DH and I have both booked the day off to go on a day trip somewhere using our NT cards. A nice opportunity to do something together mid-week. Would be gutting if I was too ill!

IloveNodles Thanks for that tip. Internet is contradictory on whether clove is OK in pregnancy (surprise surprise...) but I think consensus is that it is. Am going to make myself just work through the pain for now but if it hasn't improved by late afternoon that's the next remedy on my list to try!

Today I am 23 weeks. Hooray! Time does move forward after all grin

ILoveNoodles Fri 07-Dec-12 14:23:31

Hope you get better son empress I have never had toothache <knocks wood> but my mum has and she had to go to the dentist even though she is petrified.

ILoveNoodles Fri 07-Dec-12 14:24:42


Cocochops Fri 07-Dec-12 15:11:58

Hello can I join?

I am expecting my second on 14th April. I see there is a gender tally going on here so file me under surprise!

Just finished my Xmas shopping (bar one pressie) so relieved as it was starting to stress me out!

Haven't bought anything for the baby yet as we have all the stuff from dd1 Will probably buy a few new baby grows nearer the time.

For those expecting their second has anyone investigated double buggies. I really don't want to get one although tbh I think it may be inevitable as there will only be 2 years difference but I think I am going to try with a sling and single buggy and see how I get on. I reckon I'll last a week!

usernamegoeshere Fri 07-Dec-12 16:16:15

welcome coco

I had my physio today, apparently I have the start of SPD, but she says its caught early enough that exercises will stop it completely. But the bad pain am in has been caused by a pulled muscle in my upper thigh, apparently the early SPD weaknesses in my pelvis caused one side of me to overcompensate for the other & pulled the muscle!

So am pretty pleased, since a pulled muscle is temporary pain + the SPD has been caught early enough to prevent from getting worse!


edinfirst Fri 07-Dec-12 16:35:37

Oh username that's great news. I have physio appointment next Fri with suspected SPD so I am cheered up to hear that catching it early can help and doesn't mean it'll just get worse.

Welcome coco, very envious that you've finished your Crimbo shopping!

Like everyone, I'm thinking of mama and have everything crossed we hear from her soon.

Hope everyone is staying safe and warm. Have a lovely weekend (I am going to push the boat out and have a wee glass of red wine, my first since finding out, and I can't wait!)

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Fri 07-Dec-12 17:17:50

Evening all! Welcome coco, congratulations on your surprise! I've got all my Christmas shopping done <smug emotion> wrapped and under the tree! grin That's only because I learnt from experience last year (bought and wrapped presents, then the house caught fire shock but because they were wrapped all I had to do was re-wrap them. So much better this year!)

user great to hear your SPD will settle, that must be such a relief!

Thanks for the well wishes with regards to those of us who are ill. I'm on the mend. I ventured out the house tonight (woo!) just to the local shops and without makeup but I do think I'm on the mend. This was always going to be a quiet weekend because there's a huge Christmas market in the city centre and the place is always packed so we tend to stay in!


toobreathless Fri 07-Dec-12 19:07:13

Popping past mainly hoping too see mama really hoping she is ok.

Coco welcome and congrats. We will have an almost identical age gap, DD will be 2 yrs on 23.04.2013 & I am due the 05/04/2012. Like you I was hoping to do sling and buggy. Helps that in theory both my DD and the newborn could go in the buggy so could swap them around will out. I also do have a stroller do thinking for big family outings DH & I could always push one each?

I have awful heartburn, now appreciate why some people think they are having a heart attack with indigestion. Today I have eaten/drunk: 3 filter strong coffees, one apple, one satsuma, one glass OJ and a can of tomato sauce. Clearly this has nothing to do with my heartburn does it ladies? grin

toobreathless Fri 07-Dec-12 19:07:56

Oh yes and empress we are due date buddies!


Missmuffet28 Fri 07-Dec-12 19:17:11

Welcome coco we are due date buddies I'm spoilt now I have 2! Hehe!

Half way through my Xmas shopping rest will have to wait until the 22nd when I get paid again eek! I spent all our money already!

Empress I meant to say I get tooth ache every time I get a cold now I made them X-ray me a few times it hurt so much and they still couldn't see anything! Sometimes it felt like I had something stuck between 2 teeth as well its very strange! So I know how you feel and hope its better soon x

I really do hope mama is ok!!!!


bunnygirl80 Fri 07-Dec-12 19:46:02

Welcome coco

I'll have a 2.5yr age gap, and I'm really unsure whether I'll need a double or not. I've had a look and decided which I'd like, but I'm going to hold off buying one until as close to April as possible and see how DS is with walking nicely at that stage. I'm a bit of a pram addict though, so really want a new one even though I doubt it'll be necessary for longer than 6 months. I think I'll probably end up going with a sling/pram/buggy board combination in the end.

While I was reading ds his bedtime story last night the baby was kicking like mad, so I put his hand on my tummy so he could feel. The look of shock on his face when she gave his hand a good boot was priceless. Then he patted my tummy and said night night to the baby. smile

EssexWelsh Fri 07-Dec-12 20:12:56

Evening ladies, going to catch up now. Had another set back, just went to toilet and had a load of brown discharge, why oh why, had it about 6 weeks ago. Have had scan on Weds this week and all fine, have been thinking not feeling him move much at all this week compared to a few weeks ago. Anyone else had any discharge? Sorry to ask but no one I can ask in RL.


Hi coco, I've used a phil and ted which I can recommend as a type of double.

I'm due dc5 so only need to buy nappies, though am still working my way through tub of folic acid so as to avoid"well, may as well get pregnant and use that up" mindset again!

Do hope mama is ok.

edinfirst Fri 07-Dec-12 22:41:17

Essex didn't want to read and run. Did you mention the discharge to MW last time? As you had your scan and all was fine a couple of days ago I'm sure it will be fine, but just to out your mind at rest might be best to give them a ring? I hope someone else has more knowledge or experience of this than me and can be more help.

EssexWelsh Fri 07-Dec-12 23:07:07

Thanks Edin, nothing more since this evening, just had a shocked, got in from work, went to the loo and knickers covered, but was brown so that's good (not bright red) and baba was just really kicky, even DP felt him, so he's given me the best reassurance! Will keep an eye tomo.

usernamegoeshere Fri 07-Dec-12 23:17:19

aw Essex, you probably just irritated your cervix with something (sex, lifting, running for the bus...?), probably best to let midwife know for reassurance though.

enjay0811 Fri 07-Dec-12 23:25:50

Welcome coco my dd's are 2yrs 2mths apart and we managed with a single pushchair (bebe confort streety) and buggy board but dd1 was a quite strong walker.

bunny the baby seems to have turned 2day and been having strong kicks right up towards my ribs which dd's cld feel, dd1 hugged my belly and said hello baby! Sweet grin

Been thinkin of mama really hope everything is ok and Alexander is staying strong Xx

enjay0811 Fri 07-Dec-12 23:31:11

essex sorry forgot to post, how r u now? Have u been overdoin it today? I'd give the midwife a ring jst to see wot she says but put ur feet up and take it easy Xx

bext Sat 08-Dec-12 01:12:57

Also thinking of mama. Really hoping no news is ok news.

toobreathless I had a really bad attack of heartburn earlier this year and saw the doctor who put me on some serious acid inhibitors (pre pregnancy). But on advice I also cut out anything acidic and found that orange juice /oranges & tomatoes were really bad for it. Coffee was also an irritant. I found four days on really neutral food sorted it out as it gave things a chance to heal internally. Lots of milk, cheese, plain chicken, bread, plain potatoes etd. Hope you manage to calm it down soon.

MumofWombat Sat 08-Dec-12 05:17:03

I've been thinking about the double buggy issue as well. I'll have 23 months difference, and was hoping to do the stroller/sling/buggy board route. But DS is known to be a bit of a bolter, so would need reins as unless he gets a lot better in the next few months I just couldn't trust him. I think if I got a double buggy, it wouldn't be too long before I wouldn't need it and it could potentially be a waste of money.

mama very much hoping no news is good news.

angeltattoo Sat 08-Dec-12 12:09:30

Essex, i had a bleed on Sunday, quite large, and bright red, after sex...won't be doing that again! Then faded to brown for a few days, seems to have cleared up now.

Baby is fine, I hope, midwife found a Hb on doppler, and my cervix was closed. I'm still not feeling much movement and am desperate to feel more movement. Keep an eye, but I'm sure it'll be fine, like you say, as least it's brown. Ring the midwives for advice.

I just wanted to sympathise, I too thought 'why, oh why?!'

KelleStarOfWonder Sat 08-Dec-12 16:45:27

DD will be 2.4 when the next one arrives. Our buggy is fine for a NB but it's knackered and needs replacing, but not going to make the decision until closer to April. I tried out a P&T E3 at the nearly new shop, it's inline and would be great, but it's a gert lunker and would be a PITA getting it in and out of the boot all the time. I think a double may be an easy option for short term, then I'd get another maclaren techno xt.

Getting lots of weird pops in my tummy, not like the fizzy pre kicks, it sounds like a muffled balloon pop and it's not my pelvis, I might be lazing out on the sofa and it'll just pop, even DH hears it. Anyone else?

fx crossed for mama.

ratbagcatbag Sat 08-Dec-12 19:07:57

Hi all

Just popping in to say I hope everyone is fab, hoping mama comes back soon with good news.

My bean is now doing full kicks and wriggles and DH can see and feel them now, times marching on but besides an adorable teddy I've bought nothing grin


enjay0811 Sun 09-Dec-12 08:05:48

Mornin all! Jst checking in and hoping for news from mama. Goin Xmas shoppin today and may get my first baby stuff but feelin a little tired after another 4am insomnia episode! Oh well, hope everyone has a good day x

MumofWombat Sun 09-Dec-12 10:53:52

I've given up. I'm joining DS in just wearing underwear, well, his is a bright reusable nappy and I'm in a vest top and knickers. If its acceptable for him, it is for me too! It's just too hot. And the house has descended yet again into a near slum as I'm too hot and tired from not sleeping to do more than the bare minimum.
And I think I'm going to have a mummy's girl on my hands! I get kicked all the time but as soon as DH puts his hand on my tum she stops. I don't think he's taking it personally yet...

usernamegoeshere Sun 09-Dec-12 15:34:08

still checking for news from Mama

I can't remember who mentioned swimming suits (or if I imagined it...) but I was just looking at next website since am planning to try put some Christmas money aside for there sale on boxing day. In the clearance section on the website they have 2 different maternity swimming suits more than half price in a bunch of sizes, one between 8 & 18 and the other between 12 & 22.

I feel like a whale at the moment and all I really want to eat is marmalade on toast and cheese sandwiches, feel bad that I am rejecting dinners so often all the while filling myself up on bread.


Teapig Sun 09-Dec-12 16:44:07

Also checking in for any news from Mama. Sending all best wishes and hoping that Mama is just having a little internet break.

We visited DH's family t'up North this weekend and were given some lovely baby goodies, even though we're having a girl we were given football team pjs, DH's family are football crazy.

Think we're finally getting somewhere with the name debate, glad though that we have a good few months to properly decide.

Welcome coco and congratulations!

lutrinae Sun 09-Dec-12 18:07:35

Anyone else on a bit of an emotional rollercoaster at the moment? Feel sad and weepy a lot of the time, and pretty overwhelmed by even the smallest of tasks and setbacks sad

ratbagcatbag Sun 09-Dec-12 18:12:16

Hi lutinae, feel exactly the same and then feel so overwhelmed I do nothing. I've found lists broken down help, so not clean the house which is huge, but wash pots, move junk mail etc and aim to get two or three done and that's helped me smile I'm also mega bitch a lot of the time as well, moodyness is here to stay as well.

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sun 09-Dec-12 18:12:47

Yes lutrinae, crying at all kinds of random crap! It's a tad overwhelming.

Sending my support for mama across via the power of MN. I hope everything is ok!

20+5, only 2 days til the next scan!

lutrinae Sun 09-Dec-12 18:23:28

Thank God, was getting worried that everything was genuinely hopeless and awful. We moved house recently and with Christmas coming as well as everything else I am not coping very well. Pregnancy is much, much harder than I ever thought it would be.

Small lists is a great idea, ratbag. I have a tendency to itemise EVERYTHING that needs doing/getting.

JaquelineHyOnChristmasSpirit Sun 09-Dec-12 18:33:46

Afternoon all I've been missing in action for the last week due to the massess and masses of uni work I have had to be doing.

Also been trying to cope with whiplash and SPD at the same time is bloody agonising.

Oh well it's assessment week at uni this week and then I am off for Christmas HURRAH!

mama you have been in my thoughts all week. I hope all is well with you and your little boy.

I have my scan with the area consultant tomorrow and I'm a little nervous about it. I have no idea what risk the cysts on my umbilical cord hold and I'm not sure why but they also said they want to have a really close look at the babies heart function confused sad So I have no idea what to expect.

Hope everyone is well and enjoying this middle stage of the pregnancy.


SneezySnatcher Sun 09-Dec-12 18:41:52

lutrinae me too. I cried last week because I was so tired. Today I have a really bad throat infection and I want to cry because I don't want to take painkillers but I'm going to have to. I'm in bed now and hoping I'll be asleep soon.

Ah well, I break up on Friday and then I'll have three weeks off!

SneezySnatcher Sun 09-Dec-12 18:43:25

Good luck tomorrow jaqueline.

Teapig Sun 09-Dec-12 20:01:14

Good luck tomorrow jaqueline. Hope you're feeling better, whiplash on top of SDP must be a lot to cope with. Hope the uni work slackens a bit soon.

Sneezy hope you feel better soon too and get a good night's sleep.

I'm counting down until I finish work for Christmas too. Two weeks to go and then I have two weeks off. Roll on the 21st Dec!

ratbagcatbag Sun 09-Dec-12 20:32:15

I agree on pregnancy being a lot harder lutrinae, I'm organised queen and remember everything, lately I find myself getting unreasonably upset because I've forgotten something. Lists are definately helping me get through the day, even tiny stuff, so post letter etc, I end up with a big list but less stressed because I'm not forgetting anything and it feels very satisfying to see stuff being done no matter how small.

I'm suffering with lower back pain at the moment and its shooting down my right leg, nightmare.

wishfulthinking1 Sun 09-Dec-12 20:50:16

lutrinae - I'm a complete mess at the moment- glad its not just me! I get so upset about the littlest things.

Had nightmare day- had a lot of watery discharge earlier- looked online (stupid dr google) and was advised to ring midwife. She said I should go to maternity triage, which I did- all is fine. Hung around for hours- had an examination and a scan and all seems fine- dr couldn't see any fluid anywhere,cervix closed and baby has plenty of fluid around it- I was sure it wasn't anything to worry about - but was glad I got it checked out.

Question- dr said during scan 'he's got plenty of fluid here...' Do you think that means we're having a boy? Or was it just something he said?

Hope you're all ok, I'm fine, just knackered!!
23 wks today x

Fluffeh Sun 09-Dec-12 20:52:58

waves Hi ladies.
Popping in to introduce myself. My EDD IS 28th but I'll be having an ELCS around 38-39 weeks.
It's my first baby and I'm hoping to find out the sex at my scan on Thursday smile.
We're on a really tight budget so been buying bargains as and when we see them. We have most big things now except for a cot and sling. Haven't started with clothes yet but I think I know what we need.
Silly heartburn has really kicked in the last week or so making eating a real chore. Even Rennes aren't fixing it - has anyone any suggestions please?

steph2412 Sun 09-Dec-12 21:54:16

Welcome fluffeh where have you been snapping up all these bargains?i have the bath moses basket cot no matress yet steriliser and bottles sling play gym and bouncy chair!still cant decide on the pushchair!

Trishstar Sun 09-Dec-12 21:57:32

Hi fluffeh

Deffo share where you've had the bargains from!

So far we have

Travel system
Moses basket and stand
Assorted clothes
Gro egg

And a name!!! That's about it so far!

Trishstar Sun 09-Dec-12 21:58:00


Missmuffet28 Sun 09-Dec-12 22:31:05

Just checking in after a busy weekend!
Welcome fluffeh!

Good luck tomorrow jaqueline.

Wishful what a bother but good job you got it checked out no doubt it would have bothered you If not! And hmm about the he thing unless you asked I guess you will never be sure as scan person may just refer to all beans as him you will never know!!

Lutrinae I cry at everything! I cry at the thought of something sad it doesn't even have to have happened! Hormones are really wreaking havoc! I'm usually quite a tough bunny too! Dp announced he was going to holland for two days for work on 17th, you'd have thought it was the end of the world it's not confirmed he's def going yet but if I think about it I go into melt down! It's only 2 days for christs sake!

People seem to have a bit of a collection going on! So far I have quinny travel system on order and nearly paid for! TT set ordered from mothercare with the steriliser bottle warmer etc in it was price matched to £60 from £140 so I couldn't resist but haven't paid for that yet! I'm on a promise for a swinging crib but again don't have that in possession but 99% sure I can borrow it! My mum has bought a load of material and is making me sheets, bumper, quilt etc bless her, I bought in the sale 3 sleep suits, 2 body suit vest things 2 packs of 3 bibs, a pair of elmo slippers (not in sale but so adorable if I didn't have a baby to buy them for I'd have bought them for the cat or something!) 2 soothers (don't care on people's opinions of these if I need to use them I will!!) had some vouchers and so picked up the sangenic nappy wrapper for a whole £1.50 that's my biggest bargain grin need to bug my brother about his cot I did ask few months back he said he would discuss it with his dp but her sister just announced she's pg so I guess she will possibly get it so will prob buy that second hand with a new mattress!

Would like to get a sling of some sort, some bath bits and changing bits and a monitor oh and the all important NAME! but have 4 months yet I keep telling myself!!

Mil popped in mine today to pick up the Xmas tree she asked me to get her she took her Xmas tree didnt even acknowledge i was there! No hello no good bye no eye contact even so hmph to her!
Hope everyone is well! My kicked in the bits feeling is back think I have been over doing it again got my mw appt. booked for 27th so will def mention it as its quite painful, bean still keeping me awake when I get in bed.

Sorry for the long post thought I'd get it all out hehe


lutrinae Sun 09-Dec-12 23:18:39

Welcome fluffeh!

Sorry you've had a rubbish day ratcatbag. You're right, lists are the best!

Glad it's not just be, thanks wishful - and I'm 23 weeks today too! We are EDD buddies smile

Had one of my bezzies over this evening which cheered me up considerably, and made me feel a lot less isolated. As does this forum, of course!

toobreathless Sun 09-Dec-12 23:49:48

We don't need much stuff luckily as this is DC2 & the same sex as DC1, the two things I was planning on buying in January are NCT baby nest side car cot & Woodland friends baby gym. My parents have kindly offered to buy the baby nest! Bless them. They bought our Quinny for DD.

What I have bought is some clothes and bits and bobs. I am doing the baby a little secret stocking and giving it to DH on Xmas morning before we get up. So far I have got:
- Joules gorgeous baby grow
- Cath kidston baby grow & 2 bibs.
- Owl rattle
- Comforter.
As the vast majority of this baby's clothes will be hand me downs I didn't feel too bad spending a bit more than I usually would on the few new things we are buying.

Can I mention a couple of things we found useful or not to try and help those having DC1? Don't want to sound like a know it all! Just what worked for us, take it with a pinch of salt. Everyone is different.

Couldn't have lived without:
- Baby sleeping bags: BRILLIANT! We use Merino ones but they are pricey.
- Angelcare monitor & Sensor pad: can't fault it really and no false alarms with the sensor.
- Changing mats (doh!) x 2! one upstairs and one downstairs to save traipsing up and down. Nice whicker basket for wipes & nappies downstairs.
- IKEA Antilop high chair: £22 including delivery and so easy to clean! Also very handy for holidays as legs come off
- Easyfix base for car seat: so much easier than faffing around with seatbelt and feels more secure.
- Muslin clothes: buy double what you think you'll need!
- Dummies: lifesaver, DD was a very sucky baby and EBF- no problems with nipple confusion. I also got rid of them at 10 months when she had a cold and couldn't suck them and breathe.

Things that were a disappointment/didn't get used:
- Gro egg: had a thermometer on monitor, think most of them do.
- Mini outfits in newborn/0-3 months: DD just wore sleep suits.
- Moses basket (borrowed): huge & clunky, bent out of shape really easily, nightmare to store & transport, couldn't see baby through sides or reach out and touch easily. DH had to pick DD up and hand me her to feed after stitches for a few days BUT the alternatives are expensive.
- Tommee Tippee electric breast pump: rubbish and very tricky to clean, Mendela swing was much better.

Be careful stocking up on nappies/wipes as some babies get awful rashes with one brand or another and you don't want 200 nappies you can't use.

toobreathless Sun 09-Dec-12 23:59:14

fluffeh welcome!

wishful sounds like an awful day but at least everything is OK. Hope you are taking it easy. I wouldn't read too much into Dr saying he/she, I think Drs tend to pick a sex and then call all babies he/she regardless of gender.

Mama continuing to think of you.

Jacqueline good luck for tomorrow.

mumofwombat we will have an identical age gap. DD was born 23.04.2011 & I am due 05.04.2013.

enjay0811 Mon 10-Dec-12 00:32:17

Welcome fluffeh

Good luck for tomorrow jacqueline

ratbag I'm with you on the lower back and shooting pain in my bum cheek and right leg. Had sciatica with other 2dd's too but atleast it doesn't sound as bad as you poor ladies with spd.

toobreathless I think sharing your knowledge and experience is really helpful. This will be dc3 but I found it interesting! My twopenneth - you really don't need a baby bath! Biggest waste of money, or a bottle warmer. Most useful - muslins/bibs - get about 4 times the amount you think you need! Fab for dribble, milk, snot and will last well into toddler age. Agree with dummies too, I wld of gone insane or seriously wld have stopped bf otherwise. Dd2 was ebf for 6 mths but was very sucky. Found it very hard to take them away again but worth the sanity in the early days.

Ooh, I found some skinny jeans atlast too, in mothercare. £15 in the sale to make it even better! Loose top from debenhams and now all sorted for my work Xmas party! grin

Take care all x

22 + 2 I think?

toobreathless Mon 10-Dec-12 01:13:09

enjay agree re: baby bath, but they are very handy to fill with ice and stick beers in etc if you're having a party/BBQ! Ours has had beer in it more often than a baby grin

aufaniae Mon 10-Dec-12 01:21:07

Jaqueline good luck for tomorrow, keeping fingers crossed for you smile

Mama thinking of you, hope you're both OK.

Fluffeh Mon 10-Dec-12 08:00:07

Thanks for the warm welcome smile.
Most of our bargains have been at school/church Xmas fayres. Best bargain so far was a brand new gym/playmat thing for 50p! It's really lovely and doesn't look like it was only 50p.
We also scour the local buy and sell groups on Facebook. This weekend I picked up a travel system where only the pushchair part has been used, meaning the carrycot and cars eat (including car base) are in perfect condition. It cost just £20! I figured we could buy a different pushchair when he or she grows out of the carrycot.
toobreathless thanks for the tips. I was going to buy a breast pump before baby is born but I think I'll hold off as I don't want to waste money that could be spent elsewhere smile. I've also got a fair few sleeping bags, I think they're a fantastic idea!

SneezySnatcher Mon 10-Dec-12 10:07:59

Things I found most useful last time:
Muslin squares (again)!

Easifix base for car (still using now as DD's car seat is extended rear facing and will be until she's four).

Morrck baby blanket 'hoodie'. I remember trying to get DD into a snowsuit on way home from hospital and it was a nightmare! We got one of these and it was a lifesaver as it worked in car seat and pushchair. It also meant if DD fell asleep in the car we didn't have to take loads of layers off to bring her in and risk waking her. www.morrck.co.uk/baby-hoodies-1.html

Coffe holder for Bugaboo blush

Pointless things include: top and tail bowl, baby socks (we used rights as they stay on) and "outfits" as I kept DD in babygrows for months!

SneezySnatcher Mon 10-Dec-12 10:08:28

coffee obviously suffering from withdrawal symptoms!

SneezySnatcher Mon 10-Dec-12 10:09:12

tights stay on, not rights! I give in now!

usernamegoeshere Mon 10-Dec-12 11:20:47

I hope appt goes good today JH

All this info on babies things is pretty useful, I have to admit have been feeling slightly overwhelmed (still have only purchased a teddy!) but will try to make myself a list then go sale shopping on boxing day morning.

Mama1980 Mon 10-Dec-12 11:57:06

hi sorry for the very late update. thanks so much for all the thoughts and messages they mean a lot i've only be able to get online today. last wednesday monitering showed signs of foetal distress decelerating heart rate which stabilised again then last thursday my waters began to leak and i had a large bleed. They have given me steroids and medication magnesium something or other and have been expecting me to go into labour any day, but everyday counts. So far babe is looking good. They have been holding off delivery to give the meds time to get into his system but at the next sign of distress or heavy bleeding they think they will have to deliver. I'm just focusing on keeping breathing. 24+0 today.
I really hope everyone is doing well.

JessieEssex Mon 10-Dec-12 12:05:08

mama thanks for updating - we're all keeping everything crossed for you and little Alexander. 24 weeks is such a milestone and you've made it!

Crazytictac Mon 10-Dec-12 12:15:34

Relieved to hear from you mama. Glad you've hit the magic mark although obviously this must still be incredibly anxious for you. Best wishes to you and Alexander. What a little trooper he is.

You're all putting me to shame with how organised you are. Haven't done a thing yet!

Missmuffet28 Mon 10-Dec-12 12:25:44

So good to hear from you mama! Glad that your amazing little Alexander is still hanging on in there fingers crossed he can stay put for a little longer hey! I hope you are well too!! I can only imagine what a wobbly time this must be for you mentally as well as physically.

I never used muslin squares last time with ds1 so now you all have me wondering what I used instead lol! Maybe ill try them this time round and see what I'm missing!

usernamegoeshere Mon 10-Dec-12 12:35:31

Glad to hear from you mama you & lil Alexander are doing so well & being so brave. As someone who can't even read the tv guide at the moment without finding something to cry over I find your bravery incredible.

JaquelineHyOnChristmasSpirit Mon 10-Dec-12 13:44:13

mama so good to hear from you. Well done to you and Alexander for making it to the magical 24 week mark smile

You are right every second counts so the fact that you have both fought through to now is amazing. You are amazing.

Keep us updated when you can. If you need anything at all please get in touch and I'm sure we will all do everything we can to help you.

I'm off to my scan now, will report back later. Will also do a list of things I loved last time round and what was a waste of money etc.


OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 10-Dec-12 13:47:47

Great to hear from you mama. Sorry to hear its been such a scary time but really glad you've made it to the 24 week mark! Hang in there baby Alexander!

I'm much better (phew!), even walked down to the village this morning. Must be feeling better. Managed to queue up in the post office for about 20 minutes hours too which I'd never have managed last week! smile

Scan tomorrow! Eek!


birdbrain17 Mon 10-Dec-12 14:02:23

wow mama can't believe your 24 weeks it seems like we've been counting down to this for ages! So glad your still okay and your baby is still hanging in there, looking forward to more positive updates smile

Thanks for all the tips everyone on what you found useful for dc1 keep them coming I'm starting a shopping list of what I need and what is nice to get so this is really helpful! For those of you who have breastfed before did you get a pump and bottles for when you knew you would be out during a feed or so DH could do some, I'm hoping to breastfeed but not sure if I need this stuff....

Anyone still knitting? I'm making a blanket (purple and yellow as we don't know what gender) I decided the easiest way was to do small squares and sew them together as that way I can just start and stop whenever I have time and not worry about ruining it. I worked out I need about 70 squares all together(!!!!) and I've done 12 I'm so proud of it so far hope I manage to finish it wink


welcome fuffeh! sounds like you've been doing what i have...getting ebay and other 2nd hand bargain. i love the challenge of it! we've got an ebay cot and glider chair - both £40 bargain! a grow egg, various funky clothes, a borrowed moses basket, some funky coloured muslins and my SIL bought me a M2B pack of smellies plus her fave breast pads!!

lutrinae - ive been an emotional wreak the last two weeks all of a sudden. and stupidly watched some recorded One Born y'day and bawled like a baby. hilrious. i think xmas expectations can make things run at a higher vent too.

sorry for crap typing...i'm doing one finger typing with my left hand as i made a painful kitchen boo-boo last night and grabbed the metal handle of a frying pan that had been in the oven at 200 degrees! after a lit of swearing, we ended up in A&E as the burns are quite bad. what a numpty i am! now ive a hand all bandaged like Mr Puft from ghostbusters and my arm in a sling...i hope t heals in time for me to wrap my chrissy prezzies, its my fave bit!

mama well done to you and your boy makng it to 24 weeks and FX you can hang in there for a bit longer.


JessieEsseXmas Mon 10-Dec-12 15:05:48

Oh grow poor you - I hate hate hate burns (who doesn't!) and I'm always grabbing hot things.

birdbrain I breastfed DD1 and I didn't have a pump or bottles at first. I tried pumping at about 12 weeks just to see if she would take a bottle, but she never got used to expressed milk for some reason. She had a bottle of formula a day from 5 months and had no problem with that (in fact she loved it!) I was happy to feed in public from the beginning but I completely understand that it's a really big deal for some people and expressing might be the way forward if you think that might be a problem.

I haven't bought anything at all for new baby - as we didn't find out the gender with DD, we have loads of neutral stuff already, but I really should treat him/her to something new and special!

One thing I can really recommend is to get some kind of comfort toy from the beginning - my DD still has her rabbit in bed (and one spare!) and it really settles her.


ILoveNoodles Mon 10-Dec-12 16:24:33

Glad you have made it to 24 weeks mama. heres hoping baby can hold on for a bit longer.

Still haven't bought anything hmm at this rate baby girl will be out and doing her own shopping!!!
Maybe I'm waiting for the sales. <wishful thinking>

Missmuffet28 Mon 10-Dec-12 18:42:49

So what slings/carriers are awesome nowadays ladies? When I type in eBay thousands come up shock narrow it down for me!! Been almost 11 years since I used one and I def don't remember what it was! I want it for a little bit of shopping and mostly walking the dog I think if that makes any difference!

Any info would be mostly appreciated! X

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 10-Dec-12 18:49:22

Ouch grow that sounds nasty! I think increased clumsiness is a side effect if pregnancy but still....shock Hope it heals quickly!

Slings wise I inherited one from my sister - it's a Tomy Safari.

Trishstar Mon 10-Dec-12 18:59:14

Great news mama! Keep going we are all thinking of you!

I need to get a good sling/carrier! OH is adamant he wants to use one!

usernamegoeshere Mon 10-Dec-12 19:30:40

same, OH wants to use a sling but we are clueless (& on a budget!) so any suggestions welcome.

Looking out for news from JH

Mama, I'm so glad you and alexander are ok. Congratulations on reaching twenty four weeks!

Teapig Mon 10-Dec-12 20:51:46

So happy to hear that you and Alexander are ok mama. Well done for getting to the 24 week mark, I hope the little fella stays put as long as poss.

Great to hear all the advice on essential baby items, I'm a first timer and find it super useful. DH also really wants a sling so I would be glad of any tips there too.

Stupid question but what are the muslins for? Yes, I am a complete novice!

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 10-Dec-12 21:20:39

My understanding is muslins clean up all sorts - milk, vomit etc!

SneezySnatcher Mon 10-Dec-12 21:35:43

teapig muslins are good for all sorts. We used ours for wiping up sick/drool, as a nappy change mat when out and about, floor and sear covers, covering shoulders when burping etc. We also had some lovely big ones that we used for swaddles and as covers when the weather was very hot. They were Aden and Anais www.hamillbaby.com/aden-and-anais-muslin-swaddling-blankets-4-pack-19-c.asp

WRT slings. We have a Babyhawk and a Wilkinet which are both good. I quite fancy a Movy wrap too!

SneezySnatcher Mon 10-Dec-12 21:36:08

Moby wrap!

KelleStarOfWonder Mon 10-Dec-12 21:48:44

mama glad you are still hanging in there with your little man. 24 weeks! eep time is passing now! fx all things stay put for now.

teapig I still use muslins all the time. Squirty boobs, mopping up leaking milk when feeding, sick, as a bib, burb cloth [double fold though], lying baby out on change tables, easy to clean if you have a poosplosion, also use them in public changing rooms too. Booby coverage for public feeding, if you want to be a little discrete, also good for baby to pull on rather than your hair. lying a naked baby in the grass in the garden. Still used as bibs on DD and for cleaning up accidents whilst potty training. Just cheap ones from asda or tesco. Though was bought some funky ones from MC and they've faded rapidly and are no different fabric wise than the cheap ones. You can use dylon to dye them bright colours, but they will fade with use and the dye may come out on other things, white or pale is so easy to bung in with other things [pooy pukey things were washed on a hot wash, just to kill bacteria.]

I had a Moby wrap which is brilliant, but complicated to wrap at first. Was fine until DD fidgeted herself loose, so stopped using it after 9 months [she was a small one] DH refused to wear it though, even though I brought the dark brown one.

I have an old sling from a friend that's forward facing and was good for DD in her nosy days when she was able to hold her head up firmly. I also have the backpack type [two in fact] which are brilliant for day trips, but DD want's to constantly be looking around, so hates backs of heads, thinking about selling them now, as we really don't use them that much blush they are second hand from eBay so it'll be good to get some cash back from them.

DD has another cold... 6 weeks of three different colds... not looking forward to this, don't want another one myself. But it means disturbed sleep and lots of whinging. Yuck!

Baby is fidgeting around quite a bit now, but goes still for DH smile My bump still seems to come and go some days.

KelleStarOfWonder Mon 10-Dec-12 21:53:49

wrt to the moby wrap I am big of nork and belly and short. I found lots of slings meant baby was squished by my boobies. Plenty of fabric and easy to adjust to suit your shape. It's been on a loan to my tall, willowy friend, who is also big of nork and her extremely tall DH and they've loved it, really easy to wrap once you know what you are doing. Though I remember a rainy day in a car park trying not to get my ends wet. It's close to 3-4m of fabric.

Seconding a moby wrap. My 18 month old has only just ventured out.

Missmuffet28 Mon 10-Dec-12 22:09:37

Oh kelle you do put things in the most wonderful of ways! I just let out a loud giggle at poosplosion (a little scenario played through in my mind!) and the term of big norks hehe!! I am of medium height 5'7 with G norks so this sling sounds like it may be worth a look into if babas tend to get suffocated by boobs I guess!

Did any one hear from jaqueline? I hope her day went ok!

lili86 Mon 10-Dec-12 22:22:37

Just checking in! Glad you are holding on Mama. Sayinga prayer for you.

Had our scan today! So amazing!! We are having a girl! Still hasnt sunk in that i will have one of each.smile

Cocochops Mon 10-Dec-12 22:45:30

Thread is busy I can't keep up!
Just had a quick skim and

wishful when we had our 20 week scan for DD1 the sonographer referred to the baby as a he his heart etc So I wouldn't read too much into it and think they may say 'he' so they don't say 'it'.

mama glad you are hanging in there

Slings we had a baby bjorn which i used quite a lot outside the house and found the support good for walking. Now expecting dc2 I envisage I might use the sling a lot more in the house to keep hands free to play with dd1 etc so maybe a wrap one might be better? Watching with interest

I will have a think about useful list and post later.
Night all

Trishstar Mon 10-Dec-12 22:55:21

Ladies just felt my first proper kicks! Not just flutters.

Was lying in bed reading when I felt it, so strange! Hopefully OH will feel it soon too.

21+6 smile

Missmuffet28 Mon 10-Dec-12 23:41:40

Congrats on scan lilli!

And yay for the kicks trish!!

bunnygirl80 Tue 11-Dec-12 04:11:35

Glad to hear you're hanging in there mama

Great to hear what everyone found useful. Here's my contribution:
Stuff that's good to get before baby arrives:
1. Bottles, sterilizer, breast pump/formula. I had major problems with latching DS on when my milk came in and couldn't feed at all for a while. For us if we'd had no bottles he'd have gone hungry until we could have bought some. Typically it all happened at 2am so not ideal shopping for bottles time, so at least was able to keep him fed till the lactation consultant came out to us in the morning
2. Muslins. DS was never that sicky but I used them for swaddling until he was nearly 5 months and also used them for keeping the sun off him in the pram
3. Lasinoh. Essential to save your nipples!

Stuff that you can get when you feel you need it:
1. Baby monitor. I didn't let DS out of my sight till he was about 2 months old blush.
2. Baby clothes beyond a few baby gros. We didnt get much at all until DS was born and we knew what size he needed. He wasn't a particularly sicky/poosplosiony baby so he'd wear the same thing for days

Pointless stuff!
1. Baby bath. We just used the kitchen sink then the big bath. I did have something called a bath dam which fits across a big bath so you don't have to fill the whole thing with water
2 .Room thermometer. Our baby monitor had one anyway, but it's pretty easy to tell if its hot or cold!

Teapig Tue 11-Dec-12 08:00:43

Thanks for all the advice on baby essentials [adds sling and large quantity of muslins to shopping list]

I'm feeling a little down about work at the moment. Just been told I'm reporting to a different manager who is based in the US and wants weekly catch ups. I feel like the pressure of work is going to increase just when I don't need it to. Wish we could afford for me not to go back after baby arrives but I am the main earner so not an option. Oh well, maybe it won't be as bad as I think.

Congratulations on your scan lili86! That's lovely news.

Fluffeh Tue 11-Dec-12 08:28:05

Aww congratulations lili !
Regarding slings, I really wanted a traditional lay down type for when he/she is tiny. Is it possible to create that with a wrap style sling?
I'm blind so was hoping to get a sling to carry baby around outside then i can still use my cane (or if its sorted in time, a guide dog). But I didn't think it was good for newborns to be in the sitting position for rio long?
My DP can push the pram when he's with us but I have idealistic thoughts of long walks just means baby smile.

itsaruddygame Tue 11-Dec-12 08:35:19

Everything crossed for mama that Alexander stays put for a bit longer.

Great reading all the recommendations - so far I have a few baby grows and muslins and that's about it! I have chosen all the big items though so will hit the January sales.

Teapig I hear you re: work. I am under a lot of pressure at the moment and it could not be worse timing. It looks like Christmas is not going to be the relaxing break I was hoping for and I have had a few sleepless nights. I havent had time off since end of Aug/early Sep and i could kill for a week off. It is a family business so when the brown stuff hits the fan there is no escape! Here's hoping things get a bit easier : )

usernamegoeshere Tue 11-Dec-12 12:32:55

gah, I am such a moody cow. I can't help myself. Am behaving like a precious 16 yr old who sulks if her boyfriend doesn't give her 100% of his attention.
Thing is, I am fully aware I am doing it & am literally full of hate of myself for it, yet I can't seem to stop. I really hope this is just a phase.

Fluffeh, it must be so much harder to prepare when blind, I hope you have loads of support.

But yey Trish!!

& good luck Faith for scan today. No word from JH yet?

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Tue 11-Dec-12 12:36:20

fluffeh I'm curious, how do you MN? Does it speak it out for you?

I'm so achey today! Not sure why?! Eek only 3 hours til the scan - thanks username! grin

Woo hoo 21+0!

good luck for scan, faith. i'm 21 weeks today too! feeling like the right side of it now and on the home straight. enjoy your scan and ask for some detailed pic - ours are great!

Ollibobs Tue 11-Dec-12 12:53:47

Just a quick message to say that it looks like M&S online is having 20pc off on baby wear. Can't tell how long it's going to last, but I seem to remember someone posting links for lovely M&S baby grows.

jj247 Tue 11-Dec-12 12:58:32

fab news mama, hope Alexander keeps hanging on in there a while longer too, but brilliant to know you got to 24 weeks!

Yay trish too, must feel absolutely wonderful.

user my moods are all over the place too, from petulant teenager to blubbering mess, I'm hoping it is a passing phase or I've no chance of getting through the Christmas movie season and I think DPs patience will wear thin after 5 months of it!

21 weeks today too! grin

Fluffeh Tue 11-Dec-12 16:39:56

I hope them&s sale is still on Thursday after my scan, I want pink or blue instead of cream smile. Thanks for the link grow!
I'm inundated with family support, honestly everyone is already fussing around me I dread to think what they'll be like when the baby's here haha.
Yeah Faith I have a screen reader on my laptop and VoiceOver on my phone. I tend to use my phone more as it corrects most of my awful spelling mistakes too. :D.
It's taken me quite a few years to decide to have a baby, I've always worried about what other people would think and how much of an impact having a blind mum would have on a child growing up. But last year I met the most amazing woman who is deaf blind and a single mum and a fantastic one at that.
I figured if I could be half as good at parenthood as she is then it was worth a try.
Also my partner is a fantastic support and has two older teenagers already so knows what's coming.
I do get the odd unkind comment but that's more other people's problem than mine smile.

usernamegoeshere Tue 11-Dec-12 17:14:25

Thanks for the M&S link!

Stupid question alert! Are Muslin clothes just like tea towels?

Also, I read a while ago that you can get sleep suits with built in scratch mitts & people were recommending them, but now I can't see them anywhere so should I just get normal sleep suits or is there something I am missing?

That set up sounds great Fluffeh its awesome what technology can help with these days.

lili86 Tue 11-Dec-12 17:34:30

Username, next do the babygrows with mitts! Very cute ones too! Ive got some m&s ones and they are fab aswell. Ds first outfit was a babygrow from markies which had little dinosaurs all over. Shame he only wore it once as he didnt fit newborn clothes! Wish had bought it in a bigger size!

Trishstar Tue 11-Dec-12 17:39:27

fluffeh I really admire you. Good to know you have lots of support and ignore anyone who makes stupid remarks.

I was going to ask how you use the computer/phone etc.

If you don't mind me being nosy, have you been blind since birth?


OComeAllYeFaithBaby Tue 11-Dec-12 18:05:36

Wow fluffeh that's really cool! I was watching something the other day (might have been the one show) about a woman who was TTC that was in a wheel chair. She'd come up against loads of discrimination but they showed footage of a woman who had a baby a few months before. She described the only difference as Other people parent standing up, I parent sitting down! I really admired her!

So we've had our scan! All looks nice and healthy. She wasn't keen to right it down so we asked her to tell us. Baby was of course not in a particularly good position but no obvious boy bits so put us down as pink! grin

edinfirst Tue 11-Dec-12 19:03:43

username just to add that I was looking for built-in scratch mitts too and kept thinking I couldn't see any as I was looking for something obvious on the end of the sleeve. Th ones I got out of next are not noticeable unless you look for them-like a wee extra cuff on the sleeve that you fold over (ie not a great big mitt dangling off the end!).

lutrinae Tue 11-Dec-12 19:15:38

Sometimes it's the stories of people on here that really put things in perspective for me, like mam and fluffeh -but for totally different reasons
[tries to stop stressing about Christmas].

I haven't bought anything yet! Not a thing. Putting off thinking about it until New Year. I think it will be an eBay-clad baby!

yay faith - another pink one due 23rd!

fluffeh it sounds like you've got loads of great support on hand (if not too much) I work for an org that supports blind people and know a few blind mums who do a much better job than some sighted mum! good on ya for being confident and going for it, i'm sure you'll be amazing.

lutrinae we'll have a funky ebay baby too! hope you're feeling less up and down at the mo and are looking forward to xmas. we all deserve to put our feet up!

Ollibobs Tue 11-Dec-12 20:09:56

Hi all. Had our scan today and everything looks like it should. So relieved. Also, we found out the sex.... And it's a girl!!

Let the shopping begin! grin

Missmuffet28 Tue 11-Dec-12 20:29:12

Congrats on your great scan ollibobs!

I think I'm heading for yet another cold I can feel it brewing in my nose! A crappy problem compared to some I know! Got my flu jab tomorrow too so hope it holds off till after that or i'll have to put that off again!


lutrinae Tue 11-Dec-12 21:02:04

thanks grow! I am actually feeling a lot better than I was, thank God. Although I just got a bit weepy at Masterchef but that's allowed.

Yeah, I can't wait till the prep is over and it's actually Christmas. I'm gonna genuinely try and eat for two wink

usernamegoeshere Tue 11-Dec-12 22:49:46

hehe Edin you are spot on, I was expecting the mitts to be a bit more obvious, I just seen a whole bunch now on Next website! thanks.

Congratulations on the good scans! Girls must be catching up by now I think.

Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better Lutrinae and Missmuffet I hope you don't get cold!

bext Tue 11-Dec-12 22:53:30

Just thought I'd pop by and say hello.
Currently lying in bed feeling a couple of real kicks - very odd sensation!
20 weeks today, can't believe the half way mark is here so fast grin
It's been lovely reading all the good scan news, so pleased for everyone.
And thanks for all the advice from you experienced mums - invaluable smile x

edinfirst Wed 12-Dec-12 03:00:18

Argh, insomnia. That is all.

ILoveNoodles Wed 12-Dec-12 06:07:47

Hey! Glad to read everyone is ok.
Friends of mine had their second baby boy yesterday and he is madly cute.
Only thing is I am finding myself feeling slightly jealous blush, I dont get it I am 22+1 with my own baby what is there for me to feel this way about.

On the other hand with reguards to "baby stuff" I am now the proud owner of a hardly used pilko pramette, another buggy was bought soon after, thanks to a buggy fetish! with car seat that was only used to bring baby home from hospital, footmuff, and changing bag, spare raincovers and black bags full of baby girl clothes, including hats, coats, snowsuits, dresses, tops, trousers, tights, and some clothes for my son <I could go on all day!> thanks to a wonderful friend whom I have known since I was 11, nearly 30 now so I can trust her. She also brought cake and did all my dishes, wipe down my kitchen bless her.
When she said she was coming I quickly nipped out and got her a box of choccies and wrote her a thank you letter which I snuck in her bag but I wasn't expecting all of that so will get her a little something extra. Although I was gonna use my old pram her one is more up to date, <shallow> slimeline, and lighter and I wouldn't of been able to get it new.
Was quite emotional to be honest. And she brought it all down on the train depsite living over an hr away.
And you know the only thing she said was just want to help me as I did her. Both of her kids are only slightly older than mine so I couldn't pass on things but I made sure I was there practically.

Really sorry for the long post but I really wanted to share.
Damn I've got a fantastic network behind me.. I'm not even gonna start on my mum and mother in law <started crying now>

Fluffeh Wed 12-Dec-12 06:39:55

Aww noodles your friend sounds lovely! And the pram sounds fab too smile.
I've only been blind for 3 years but I started losing my sight 12 years ago. I have a bit of blurred vision in one eye and I have my fingers crossed its still there at the birth so I can do my best to see the baby. If not though I'm sure my partner can describe them for me smile.
I'm too excited to sleep which is really stupid, we have the scan tomorrow I feel like a kid at Christmas haha!
All these scans going on here are making me super excited to find out the sex and start clothes shopping.

LikeCandy Wed 12-Dec-12 07:09:15

Hello all! (And a special hello to the newbies - i cant believe the April clan is still getting bigger!) Soooo much to catch up on - will write a proper message later but I just wanted to come on and share my irrational happiness at getting to 24w.

(I must change entry on the stats, e.d.d 3rd April!)

Missmuffet28 Wed 12-Dec-12 07:57:02

Aww noodles your friend sounds lovely!
Edin hope you managed some sleep in the end!

I got my cold I knew it was coming sad I'm going to try and hide it at flu jab though!

Have a good day everyone good luck to anyone having scans today x

Mama1980 Wed 12-Dec-12 08:39:59

Hello this is Sam updating again for mama1980.
My nephew Alexander was born at 2.41am this morning by emergency c section. Bec thought you would all want to know.
He is gorgeous and doing well but Bec lost a lot of blood and is in intensive care as a precaution.
We are not sure what happened exactly they just called my husband and told us to come to the hospital, I'm sure Bec will update you as soon as she is able.


Ollibobs Wed 12-Dec-12 08:57:54

Hi Sam, thanks for the update about mama1980. Will keep both of them in my prayers.

aufaniae Wed 12-Dec-12 09:02:55

Sam thanks so much for taking the time to update us, when your family must have so much to deal with. I know we all really appreciate it, your sister is often in our thoughts. We were all very worried when she disappeared for a few days and we're all rooting for her and Alexander.

So good to here Alexander is doing well smile I hope your sister is OK, and well enough to come out of intensive care very soon.

photochick Wed 12-Dec-12 09:36:22

Sam, thank you for your post. I hope that mama and Alexander are doing well. They are certainly both fighters and such an inspiration. Thinking of you all x

bunnygirl80 Wed 12-Dec-12 09:38:01

Thanks for updating us Sam. I'll keep them both in my thoughts.

fluffeh it's great to hear you have so much support. It's making me wonder what your screen reader software makes of some of the words that really only appear on mn.

Felt some sort of limb poking out of my bump this evening. Had an anterior placenta with DS and although I felt lots of movement I could never really tell what bits of him were where until I was about 36 weeks and had a knee sticking out the top of my bump. This was a definite arm or leg sticking out and poking me though...I prodded it back and it went away!

usernamegoeshere Wed 12-Dec-12 10:43:51

Thank you for updating us Sam, congratulations on being an aunty! Your sister & lil nephew are in my thoughts, hope they are doing well & can't wait for more updates.

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Wed 12-Dec-12 11:13:27

Goodness. Welcome to the world Alexander! Glad to hear he's doing well. I'm aware it'll be a long journey for both him and Mama, they're in my thoughts and prayers. Thanks for updating us Sam.

ratbagcatbag Wed 12-Dec-12 12:07:03

Thanks for the update, Mama and Alexander are in my thoughts and I will light a little candle for them tonight. I'm sure I speak for everyone on the thread when we say we really are rooting for them and can't wait for updates.


I'm definately being kicked more than ever now and still haven't bought anything other than a teddy blush I really do need to get my backside in gear.
Hope everyone else is well.

SneezySnatcher Wed 12-Dec-12 12:10:51

Thank you for the update. Mama and Alexander are in my thoughts x

Trishstar Wed 12-Dec-12 12:18:48

Praying for Mama and Alexander xx

JaquelineHyOnChristmasSpirit Wed 12-Dec-12 12:36:19

Hello ladies not updating for myself right now, just wanted to say...

mama you and Alexander are both in my thoughts and prayers. I shall light a candle for you both tonight.

Keep fighting the fight and know that when you are up to it you can come back here and we will do everything we can to support you.

Thank you for the update Sam it is much appreciated. If you are able to please could you PM me and let me know which hospital your sister is in as I would like to send a little something up for her.

photochick Wed 12-Dec-12 12:50:18

back from my scan - all perfect and wriggling around. The scan was amazing! Femur length above average which made us laugh - I'm 5'11" and my DH 6'5"!
In RL its a surprise, but I can share here that we are having a girl smile. Glad we found out because we thought it was going to be a boy! Can't wait to buy some non-cream / more girly things now!

Sam thank you very much for updating. Please let mama know she and Alexander are in our thoughts and prayers. We'd love an update when it is convenient.

Crazytictac Wed 12-Dec-12 13:37:07

Thanks for keeping us in the loop Sam. Very best wishes to mama and Alexander. They've both come so far. I know it was always on the cards but can't believe he's arrived already. Huge hugs across the web.

Hope your scan was ok jacqueline

itsaruddygame Wed 12-Dec-12 14:23:42

Sending lots of love and healing to Mama and Alexander. They are in my thoughts and I hope that Mama is stable and out of ITU very quickly. Glad to hear Alexander Thor is doing well and hope that he now thrives.

Thanks for the update Sam - it is really kind of you to take the time despite the difficult situation you are in.

Giddypants Wed 12-Dec-12 14:30:36

Thanks for the update Sam, I will keep them both in my thoughts and prayers xx

Trishstar Wed 12-Dec-12 14:35:27

fluffeh hope you do get to see your babe at birth

You say there is a possibility of a guide dog for you soon? When I see those dogs at work for both blind and deaf people I always think they are so incredible. I'm a big animal love anyway but that just gives me even more admiration for them.

Hope you get a dog if that will help you out!

miarosemum Wed 12-Dec-12 15:12:28

Lots of love and prayers for mama and Alexander

itsaruddygame Wed 12-Dec-12 15:42:50

Fluffeh and Trishstar I just met a few guide dogs that had finished training and were waiting to be placed with their new owners. They were fund raising in our town centre. They were such stunning dogs - so clever. I hope you get yours soon Fluffeh and that it really helps with day to day living.

Missmuffet28 Wed 12-Dec-12 15:48:38

Wishing mama and her little Alexander all the best!!

Jaqueline hope you are ok too! X

toobreathless Wed 12-Dec-12 17:30:45

Just popping in to say a big Congratulations to Mama and to send love and wishes for a speedy exit from ITU and recovery from the C Section. Sending lots of positive thought to little Alexander here's to a boring few months in NICU just eating, sleeping & growing!

Love also to you Sam and all of Mamas family including her DS & DD, it must have been a very difficult few months and there will be challenges ahead. Would also like to send a little something, I will PM JacquelineHyde and hope you don't mind her passing on Mamas hospital address? Don't want you to have to PM us all individually Sam.

Congratulations and warmest wishes to mama on Alexander's arrival. I know they will be strong. Hope mama is out of itu and with Alexander soon.

Teapig Wed 12-Dec-12 18:20:08

Thank you so much for sharing the news Sam. Sending my congratulations and very best wishes to mama. I hope she is out of intensive care very soon and Alexander goes from strength to strength as I'm sure he will. He and mama are such fighters, truly inspirational. They are in my thoughts often.

I think I'm feeling movement at long last. I get the occasional squirmy sort of feeling which I'm hoping is baby moving about. I would love a big kick in the belly that DH can feel just so I know I'm not imagining it.
bunny, you post about the limb sticking out and disappearing back in really made me laugh, I can't for that.

itsaruddygame hope work gets less crazy for you and you enjoy a nice Christmas break.

Glad I'm not the only one who hasn't started buying, I'm planning to hit those January sales.

SneezySnatcher Wed 12-Dec-12 18:41:30

Hello all. Had my 24 week appointment today. My BP was high so
I'm a little concerned as I had PE last time. I'm being referred to a consultant and need to be seen again in two weeks. Feeling a bit down now.

Love to mama and Alexander.

KelleStarOfWonder Wed 12-Dec-12 18:55:20

Sam thank you for taking the time to update us, I wish mama and all of the family a hearty congratulations and best wishes for a speedy recovery. A very auspicious day for Alexander to arrive on 12.12.12.

EmpressMatilda Wed 12-Dec-12 18:57:04

Wow. Such amazing news about mama and Alexander. I really hope she is OK and able to recover soon and be with her family and new son. So, so pleased to hear that he is doing well.

Perhaps 12/12/12 is a good omen for him?! It's my birthday too and I've had a lovely day so it was great to check in here and get this news. Every year when it's my birthday I will remember that there's a little boy called Alexander whose birthday it is too!

sneezy Sorry to hear about your BP. Shame it will cloud out all the positives but with your experience last time I can understand why. Just try to stay positive. Fingers crossed.

photo That's great news. Enjoy the shopping!

For those mentioning movement. Mine is very active some days and then others does nothing at all. Is very disconcerting. I guess he is being active, I just can't always feel him due to the anterior placenta. And I certainly can't make out which bit of him is where!

magictorch Wed 12-Dec-12 20:23:56

Just wanted to add my best wishes and prayers for mama and Alexander. Welcome to the world, little one x

Fluffeh Wed 12-Dec-12 20:44:08

Congratulations mama and welcome Alexander. I hope your feeling loads better soon mama and get to spend lots of time with your gorgeous little boy as he's growing.

Guide dogs are amazing, I think I'll have to wait until baby is around 6 months as the training together is pretty intense but it'll happen eventually.
Scan tomorrow yay!

Missmuffet28 Wed 12-Dec-12 22:18:26

Wanted to share my latest bargain I wasn't going to bother until much nearer the time of needing one but saw a lovely condition travel cot on eBay in my town and bid up to £10 and won it for £8 even dp was impressed with my bargain lol! Best thing was dp got there and the guy gave him a high chair and a bag full of baby toys that he was going to put on free cycle! How very kind!

EssexWelsh Wed 12-Dec-12 22:25:55

Congrats Mama, thinking of you both. Quite amazing to think we are all growing something that could actually now be born a little person! I hope you both a speedy exit from hospital, you are both fighters so I have no doubt!


edinfirst Wed 12-Dec-12 22:49:33

Just adding my thoughts and very best wishes to mama and Alexander I hope it's not too long a haul until your whole family can be together at home.

jacqueline thinking of you too, hope you can update for yourself when you feel able.

MumofWombat Thu 13-Dec-12 00:40:03

Welcome baby Alexander! Grow nice and strong little one, there's a lot of us wishing you and your Mama strength, healing, cuddles and love.

I'm getting kicked left, right and centre at the moment, shan't moan too much about it as secretly I love it!

enjay0811 Thu 13-Dec-12 00:45:40

Just about to doze off but wanted to give a huge congratulations to mama and send lots of love and best wishes to Alexander. Thank u so much Sam for the update. We would love to hear how they're both getting on Xx

ILoveNoodles Thu 13-Dec-12 05:21:56

Fluffeh and Missmuffet28 Thank you I know I am lucky to have such a wonderful friend.

Fluffeh I am hoping you will get to see your beautiful baby. It's quite interesting hearing about how you get by as you have been answerimg some of the questions I for one have certainly always had but never knew anyone to ask.

Missmuffet28 Look at you with your brilliant bargins, thats absolutly amazing I am sticking with my sentiment that there are alot of good amd generous people in the world.

Wonderful news about Mama and Alexander. If just on everyones good wishes and thoughts alone, they will surely be perfectly fine. They are strong.

ILoveNoodles Thu 13-Dec-12 05:22:51

Sorry for the typos blush

ILoveNoodles Thu 13-Dec-12 05:26:43

Oh nearly forgot, although I've been feeling movements for weeks, my dp was able to put his hand on my belly and feel them for the first time about half an hr ago!
It's my sons nativity today he is a......sheep! Looking forwars to seeing that. I know all the songs he has been singing them non stop for the past few weeks!

aufaniae Thu 13-Dec-12 10:04:21

jaqueline, hope you're OK, thinking of you xx

KelleStarOfWonder Thu 13-Dec-12 10:36:03

jacqueline hope everything is alright. Same goes for apriltattooed haven't heard back about your visit to the specialist.

lovenoodles nativities are so sweet, get ready for some blubbing. Went to help my mum's school out with some face painting. Got all emotional watching them and they aren't even my children hmm. DH thinks its vair hilarious at the moment watching me blub over things. DD said a good friends name properly for the first time and her little baby, it was so cute. It's a nice part of being pregnant, I am such a hard as nails type and never show emotion normally, so it's nice for DH to know that I am capable of tears [snot and dribble] smile

DH can see my bump jiggling from kicks but can't actually feel them, it's quite funny really.

I knitted some little socks to go on our christmas tree. DD thinks they are for her and keeps trying to put them on... must make a pair for my little wriggler when s/he arrives.

My task today is to put things away in the house. I have a bad habit of putting things on the nearest available surface rather than finding a home for things. As it's DD's first 2nd Birthday Party on Sunday I'm trying to get the house a bit straight so I can spend Saturday afternoon making cake, pretty little sandwiches and a pineapple and cheese hedgehog.

JoRich77 Thu 13-Dec-12 14:09:44

Congrats to Mama and Alexander. I had my 20 week scan yesterday and all went well. We werent sure about finding out the gender so were going to get sonographer to write in envelope but decision was taken out of our hands as buba was all curled up and sitting on feet. So its a surprise for us!

All in all feeling pretty good, went to pregnancy yoga for first time last night which was very relaxing. Def going to go back for that. Have hardly brought anything but have a long list and planning on hitting ebay and the Jan sales.

20w2d, due 30th April

Fluffeh Thu 13-Dec-12 15:04:57

Had my scan but baby was lying in a strange position so I have to go back again next Friday to try again.
She said everything looks good but couldn't see the spine properly so we have to try again. They couldn't tell the sex 100% either but think its a girl.
It definitely ruined my "go buy pink or blue" shopping afternoon. DP joked it was being lazy like it's mum ha! He/she wasn't for moving though sad.

usernamegoeshere Thu 13-Dec-12 16:16:56

ooooh congrats on both scans!

I had trouble at 12 weeks with baby position, tried loads but ended up having blood tests as baby was refusing to budge! thankfully at 20 weeks she had turned into a complete fidget and spent whole scan doing rolypolys.

I went pink shopping today... still bought nothing. I am officially a terrible shopper, though I did finish Christmas shopping (except 1 item) so at least thats done. Going to treat myself to chinese tonight though.


Teapig Thu 13-Dec-12 18:46:37

Yay for more great scan news!

I my 24 week MW appointment next week, although I'll be 23 weeks as Christmas is in the way. Those who have had them, what happens at the 24 week appointment. Is it the usual handing in of wee and BP check? Do MWs listen for a heart beat?

toobreathless Thu 13-Dec-12 19:10:57

Teapig general chat, blood pressure, check urine sample, feel tummy & listen to babies heartbeat.

I don't have a 24 week appt as a low risk second (or more) pregnancy they only routinely see you at 16 & 28 weeks.

Giddypants Thu 13-Dec-12 19:24:26

Teapig saw consultant today for 24 week check up was usual bp, urine and heart beat check, she also checked the position and had a general poke around but think that was slightly unnecessary!

tattooedapril87 Thu 13-Dec-12 19:59:56

kellestar i am still here! i just spend my time reading everyone else's comments..

2nd scan for twin1 heartbeat was on Monday and it all seems to have settled down which is great news.
we have to go back for another scan at 26wks to check that twin1 still developing properly and that his talipes is isolated and not the start of signs of a neuro disease.

im loving feeling the movements now-and my tummy is huge! the.guys at work like to.measure me around my tum every week and im putting on average an inch or so a week! eep!!

bunnygirl80 Thu 13-Dec-12 22:43:46

Glad to hear of more good scan news. tattoo good news about twin's heartbeat

I was rudely awakened at 5am by baby hiccuping away for about 5 minutes. Took me over an hour to get back to sleep

KelleStarOfWonder Fri 14-Dec-12 09:00:25

Tattooed glad to hear you are well and your babies grin and you are feeling movements. We had a teeny pair of twins come into baby group wednesday, they were so sweet and snuggly. Mummy was glad for a hot choc and cake while eberyone went gooey over her little boys. That'll be you soon wink

Hiccups too last night, this one seems very active 2am onwards... confused worryingly as often their waking patterns on the inside are similar on the outside. This one is up and down all day. And it feels so violent, a real wriggler. DD was a fidget but can't remember her being this uncomfortable.

Came over all funny after DD's gymnastics class, so came up to have a lie downbat about 3.30 with cbeebies on the nedroom tv for DD. DH found us fast asleep snuggled up. I still felt awful so he fed, entertained and bedded DD while I slept through. Bump was just achey and I felt faint and sick. Feel better this morning.

22 weeks today!grin

Missmuffet28 Fri 14-Dec-12 09:57:22

Kelle please don't say that!!!! Mine wakes up as soon as I get in bed and keeps me up for ages!!!!!! Hmm maybe I should start changing my routine in preparation hehe going to bed earlier and stuff!

itsaruddygame Fri 14-Dec-12 12:29:33

Another one hoping the wriggling pattern is not an indication of when he is going to be awake. Very active at night when I go to bed - still kicking at midnight and waking me up very early with a boot! grin

Keep checking in for another mama update. They are both in my thoughts often and I am hoping they are both doing OK.

Teapig Fri 14-Dec-12 15:34:32

Thanks for the heads up on the 24 week appointments.

So pleased to hear you had good news tattooed on twin's heart beat.

I have a Christmas do tonight and would like to wear my heels, I have some very high ones and some not so high. DH is horrified at the prospect of me wearing heels, he worries about things that I think are fine (has only recently been ok with me eating Helman's mayo). Is it ok to wear heels at this stage or is there a reason to stick with flats?

itsaruddygame Fri 14-Dec-12 16:42:25

Teapig I did chuckle at your husband - mine can be a tad health and safety at times grin I wore very high heels for our work do and to be fair I don't wear them v often so I am a bit of a liability. Just make sure you don't fall over!

Teapig Fri 14-Dec-12 17:08:23

Thanks itsaruddygame, I will make sure I'm steady on my feet. My DH sounds similiar to yours, I'm given daily health and safety lectures which I suppose is quite sweet really.

Missmuffet28 Fri 14-Dec-12 17:14:21

Wear the heel take the flats! Just incase you find your centre of gravity has shifted slightly! I'm useless in heels I'm one of them that can only walk in them when drunk not that I can walk in them better just that I think I can haha!
Your dp sounds sweet more than I can say for mine don't think he has cared less about what iv eaten, yes he said no way to alcohol and smoking but when it came to the dog crap in the garden or the cat tray it was a different matter......

EmpressMatilda Fri 14-Dec-12 21:17:40

Ache, ache , ache. Wrists, elbows, forearms, right shoulder. Feeling the tug in hitherto unknown muscles in my sides.

DH has gone and got fired from his job. His good, well-paid job was the thing we were relying on. Arrrgh. Terrible timing. angry

Lying in bed playing 1940s music to bump. It's about all my sanity can take.

On the plus side -24 weeks today, another milestone reached.

Have fun at your parties everyone. My work one was yesterday and I wore kitten heels and a lovely blue maternity dress that I got off ebay. It worked very well. The highlight was a drunk (female) colleague coming up to me and saying "I just want to say, your boobs are amazing, they just keep getting bigger!" blush

SneezySnatcher Fri 14-Dec-12 21:28:31

Oh no Empress I'm sorry. It's never a good time for these things to happen but the timing couldn't be much worse.

I'm still in a bit of a state worrying about PE. It seems ages until my next check (although it's only two weeks). I just want to know if my BP is still up or if it was a one-off. MW has said I definitely can't go to the MLU for labour and I'm worrying that I'll be admitted and induced like last time (plus the fact that my BP has gone up this early is worrying me).

In other (bad) news. My throat infection has spread to my ear so I'm now partially deaf. I've spent the evening sleeping and vomiting.

However, school finished today for THREE WEEKS! Hurray!

EmpressMatilda Fri 14-Dec-12 21:38:09

Oh dear sneezy, what a horrible combination of things. So great that you now have a Christmas break to recover.

I am putting my woes in perspective now. DH seems philosophical about it all and is downstairs updating his CV. He has a good network of contacts in his field and has been contacted in the past about work so he is hopeful he will get something soon. I really hope his optimism isn't misplaced.

Trishstar Fri 14-Dec-12 22:06:20

Hi Everyone!

empress hope your hubby gets another job sorted soon.

Good news on scans etc and tattooed good news on your twin scan hope ur next scan has more good news about twin 1.

I'm currently being beaten by the flu, as we can only have paracetamol I'm not doing well with it!

Have my next MW appt on Monday as its not open as much over Christmas. So my 24w appt is at 22w6d.

Haven't had any strong kicks since Monday night, just wriggly little boy keeping me up at night


Teapig Fri 14-Dec-12 22:59:53

Well I wore the heels, proper three inchers, and managed to stay on two feet so all good. Have just met up with a very drunk DH who was also out on a separate do and he is in a state shock that I wore my very high heels. Will now have to endure a drunken health and safety lecture on the train home.

Really sorry that your DH has lost his job empress. We were in a similar situation last year. DH lost his job just before Christmas and I was very worried but it all worked out for the best. Sure it will for you too. Try to stay positive and I'm sure you'll DH will find something very soon, sounds like he is in a strong position.

trishstar hope you feel better soon.

enjay0811 Fri 14-Dec-12 23:05:39

Evenin all! Had my works do this aftanoon/evening and I'm absolutely knackered, more so than usual! Somehow managed to drink my body weight in lemonade n took a mini bottle of wine (180ml) to add a splash which lasted me 6 hrs but did the trick of feelin like I had a drink! My colleagues were well impressed as I'm usually the piss head tht drinks the most! blush

Sorry to hear about ur oh's job empress hope he gets sumthing else soon. My Dh just had to reapply for his job due to a restructure but thank god he came out ok. Stressful times ((hugs))

hope everyone has a good wkend Xx

22wks today!

Trishstar Fri 14-Dec-12 23:09:55

Thanks teapig ! Did I mention that where I work (big name dept store) is generally 10-11 degrees, it's so cold there which makes it even worse!

somewherebecomingrain Sat 15-Dec-12 03:44:56

- Actually fired? As supposed to made redundant? Either wat My sympathies we've been there it leads to better things more
Happiness xx

ILoveNoodles Sat 15-Dec-12 05:35:18

kellestar I watched the nativity and I did indeed cry, it was when they were singing and my son was doing all his actions and singing really loudly like he said he would so I would hear him blush.
Its really funny hearing about everyones christmas do's!

ILoveNoodles Sat 15-Dec-12 05:36:37

empress Sorry to hear about your DH's job.

Fluffeh Sat 15-Dec-12 07:33:40

empress so sorry to hear about your dh's job, hope he finds a new one soon.
Hope everyone has fun at their parties. I'm not going to any this year because I find it impossible to enjoy myself this size haha. I can't get comfy stood up or sat down and I don't want to be ruining everyone else's night with my sulky face.
We have a big family party on Boxing Day that's been a tradition for years but I have a consultant appt on the next morning at 9am and as buses won't be running my DP needs to drive us meaning he'll have to stay sober too poor guy.
I'm really looking forward to my extra scan this Friday, another chance to see the baby and hopefully this time it'll wiggle like at 12 weeks instead of lazing around like it did on Thursday lol.

Teapig Sat 15-Dec-12 08:06:57

Ooh I think I may have found a pram. I've found a second hand icandy cherry travel system that seems to be in good condition. Has anyone used an icandy cherry and have any thoughts on how good it is? It's going for £250 second hand, does that seem like a good price for a travel system?

Any advice very welcome.

EssexWelsh Sat 15-Dec-12 09:19:26

Morning all, hope all are well. My loving, sharing DP has given me his cold, which I now realise is horrific without taking all the pills I normally would! So been gargling salt water as the sore throat is the worst bit, any suggestions on clearing up the nose?

EssexWelsh Sat 15-Dec-12 09:21:19

Teapig I paid £250 for a bugaboo chameleon with all the trimmings, which as I have continued to check eBay -as I am a saddo- does look like a good price. Not sure of the icandy tho in credentials, we went into a mothercare to play with brand new ones to help make a decision smile

Teapig Sat 15-Dec-12 09:26:54

Thanks essex, we're hitting John Lewis today to see if we can try one out.

Hope you feel better soon. I don't have any good remedies I'm afraid other than gargling with salt, that will definitely help with the sore throat.

EmpressMatilda Sat 15-Dec-12 10:13:39

Essex I used olbas oil. Just a bit on a tissue or putting it in a bowl of boiling water and inhaling the steam.

somewhere Yes actually fired as opposed to made redundant. That's why I was cross. No point staying angry though. He is trying to find something else.

Hopefully as some people have said it will lead to something better. I was just panicked because he earns a lot more than me and the job was in our hometown whereas I commute a long way so his was the job to hold on to! Ah well, it's done now. Don't think we''ll be going to his work do tonight!

I wonder how mama and alexander are? Sam, me and my prayer group prayed for them yesterday, hope that is ok.

Teapig Sat 15-Dec-12 12:49:52

essex, did you get the carry cot with your bugaboo from ebay? Just wondering if second hand carry cot is ok to use given that mattresses need to be new in cots. I'm guessing it's fine as we'd use a moses basket at night but wondered if you knew if it's ok?

Missmuffet28 Sat 15-Dec-12 13:00:40

Essex feel your pain I have a full blown snotty cold sad I friggin love a lemsip or 20 when I have a cold and not being able to have all the lotions and potions is killing me!! I'm drinking hot squash with a paracetamol to curb the craving a tip I read on here was to cover your feet in vapour rub but when I asked the pharmacist about using it she said to only use it sparingly so I haven't tried it, I don't have sore throat but I do have the dreaded face ache there must be so much pressure in there hope you feel better soon!

Giddypants Sat 15-Dec-12 13:10:54

DH has given me and DS his cold too, so feeling quite miserable. Coping with just paracetamol but have to drag myself out to work tomorrow.
Poor DS woke up coughing last night so much so that he threw up all over his bed, we spent the night downstairs, think I managed a whole 2 hours sleep!
Will hopefully sleep better tonight.

On the plus side 25 weeks today

Missmuffet28 Sat 15-Dec-12 14:09:53

Giddy read through the hints and tips thread on here loads of people saying about the vapo rub on their dc's feet to stop coughing and stuff in the night and swearing by it! I'm dying to try it lol!
There another tip on there about the flappy envelope bits on baby vests, being there incase there is a poosplosion and you have to take it off downwards instead of over their head!!! Is that true?! If so I'm a total noob I did not know that and would have saved many an occasion of ds1 having pooey hair!

Missmuffet28 Sat 15-Dec-12 14:13:11


Link I saved it to refer back to! Some really useful stuff id of have never thought of!

Giddypants Sat 15-Dec-12 16:21:58

I put Vicks on his feet last night, unfortunately he vomits very easily so I knew it was coming!
He's too old for the envelope vests, but yes when he was younger and had explosive nappies I did the vest downwards, mind you it took me a while and a lot of baths with poo in his hair to figure this out blush

Will be saving that link though, looks really good

Missmuffet28 Sat 15-Dec-12 16:55:50

See where have I been!!!! Where is this magical book of things you don't get told, that make perfect sense!

Giddypants Sat 15-Dec-12 17:17:03

I also (still) put wipes in the microwave for 3 seconds as when they were old it used to make DS scream!
There's more odd things which I do which have just become the norm now DS was a very needy baby, and I'm lazy prefer the line of least resistance so gave into him a lot!

Giddypants Sat 15-Dec-12 17:18:02

*cold not old, I didn't use old wipes on DS hmm

Trishstar Sat 15-Dec-12 17:33:51

All of us are getting colds/flu/etc! Feel better soon ladies xx

EssexWelsh Sat 15-Dec-12 18:19:42

teapig yes did get carry cot but you can get a thicker mattress to go in it that would make it new and you can then use it for overnight use if needed. Meant to replace any second hand mattresses to prevent cot death but not sure why this is exactly, it's that fine line between thinking it's fine but not wanting to risk it!

SneezySnatcher Sun 16-Dec-12 10:34:41

Hoping those of us with colds are feeling better. I'm less ill than I was but still struggling to get out of bed. I've missed my staff night out, DNephew's birthday party and I'm supposed to be going to 'lunch with Santa' at a gorgeous nearby restaurant this afternoon but it's looking unlikely. Wish this cold would just do one now!

Trishstar Sun 16-Dec-12 10:54:12

Me too Sneezy! Thought this flu was shifting but had a terrible night and woke up feeling worse! Desperately want to be better soon as its my first Christmas with OH xx

SneezySnatcher Sun 16-Dec-12 11:44:40

Poor you Trishstar. You have my sympathy. I spent all day in bed yesterday and aiming to do the same today. I'm off work now for three weeks but need to be able to look after DD on Monday as DH is working until Wednesday. Are you managing to rest?

We must get better for Christmas. There's nothing more miserable than being poorly on the big day!

Just wanted to pop on quickly to catch up. Huge congratulations to mama I hope you're feeling better now and out of ICU. And I hope little Alexander is doing well. You've both come so far xxx

Sorry to hear so many of you are feeling unwell. We seem to be bug free in this house for once but keeping fingers crossed we all stay well for Xmas. I hope you're all better soon.

I've spent 3 days having a huge declutter. I've given two massive boxes of toys and clothes to oxfam, sold my old Phil & Teds vibe as I'm getting a single this time and I've listed a load of bits and pieces on local selling sites. It feels so good to get rid of all my junk!

Almost done with the present shopping just a few bits to get that are always out of stock but typically the only things DS3 has asked for so have fingers crossed they get more in this week. And as yet have done no food shopping. Nothing like last minute!

On the baby front I've got all the nb clothes I will need now apart from a special first outfit. Still looking for something I like enough. I've got the Moses basket and stand and all the cotbed bedding, also started stocking up on nappies. I want to get a Bugaboo Cameleon but not buying new as they are so expensive. Keeping an eye out on eBay and Gumtree for a bargain!

Now off to finish tackling my washing mountain. It never ends grin


Trishstar Sun 16-Dec-12 12:59:01

Thanks Sneezy! I'm on day off today so wrapping all presents but I still have work! Only have Christmas Day off but as long as staffing allows I have nearly a week off after 28th December.

Need it!

Trishstar Sun 16-Dec-12 12:59:39

Thanks Sneezy! I'm on day off today so wrapping all presents but I still have work! Only have Christmas Day off but as long as staffing allows I have nearly a week off after 28th December.

Need it!

KelleStarOfWonder Sun 16-Dec-12 17:05:51

trishstar ah I remember the days of retail christmas working... ack, don't envy you. It'll be worth it having the week off over new year.

empress sorry to hear about your DH, hoping it leads to something better for him. My brother was fired about a month ago and has recently landed his dream job, he's the type that needs a rocket up his arse to get moving on things, he wouldn't have applied otherwise.

sorry to everyone suffering with colds/sore throats... you don't realise how much you rely on typical cold and flu relief remedies. I've been loving hot ribena [particularly the strawberry one] full of vit c and feels good on my tender throat. If you add a dispersable paracetamol it makes all the achey bits feel better for a while.

The only reason to go gentle on the Vicks, is because some of the menthol ingredients in large quantities are supposed to trigger labour [thyme for example] but I'm not sure I hold much by that... Otherwise it'd be recommended to encourage induction hmm.

Just finished DD's second birthday party with DH's family, it was lovely and the niece and nephew had fun playing with all her toys. Her actual birthday Tuesday and she is having some friends over for lunch after swimming. Made a delicious huge malteser cake. It is chocolatey heaven.

Lots of kicks this weekend, DH hadn't been able to feel them, but thought he'd try listening to the heartbeat instead, supposedly you can now hear this by just putting your ear to the bump. He got a kick in his ear for his efforts, which thoroughly excited him. This morning while lazing in bed, my bump was actually moving from the kicks, which had him super excited, DD wasn't that impressed though.

Missmuffet28 Sun 16-Dec-12 18:32:55

I haven't read all post properly but just had to say mmmmmm malteaser cake how yum does that sound!!! Care to share recipe? or is it a secret one wink I have tues to thurs off and quite fancy making a cake for Xmas and malteaser cake sounds right up my households street!! X

KelleStarOfWonder Sun 16-Dec-12 18:42:05

It's a Nigella recipe, but I couldn't find the right book so googled it and went with this one which was the closest to what I remember. It is really really tasty and half the cake served 10 of us, I didn't use the egg in the icing, but it was fine. I also only had ovaltine in the house rather than horlicks. I have done it lots over the years and it is rather yummy.

Great news is I have half a malteser cake leftover... mmm

Missmuffet28 Sun 16-Dec-12 18:55:19

Oh my it looks amazing too!!! Thanks I am certainly going to have a go at that this week! Always have a fruit cake and it never gets eaten bet ya a choc one will though!!
I may have to pop to shop in a min now also to satisfy my absolute need for malteasers since I came across your post! I'm sure most of you understand hehe!!

Teapig Sun 16-Dec-12 21:12:07

Wow, the malteaser cake looks amazing. Just added that to our Boxing Day menu.

We've finished decorating our living room for Christmas today and it looks very festive. Can't wait to start on the Christmas cooking now, making apple and cranberry chutney tomorrow.

One Christmas dish I'm making is vegetarian pate but I saw that you can't eat veggie pate when pg because of the listeria thing. However I can't see where listeria could crop up in the receipe I have I can't see listeria could crop up, it doesn't contain eggs or anything, anyone where the listeria risk comes in with veggie pate?

Sending well wishes to every suffering colds.

toobreathless Sun 16-Dec-12 23:11:11

Hello Ladies!

DD and I have spent the weekend down south visiting friends and family. We are staying tonight with one of my antenatal group from DD and having a joint Xmas party for the 5 'babies' now 19/20months tomorrow (I have annual leave.)

Feeling a bit fed up with some of my other friends as very sadly a few seem to be having problems TTC. Which is heart breaking clearly and I like to think I am very sensitive to their feelings. I'm annoyed though as I keep getting comments along the lines of 'you only have to look at your husband to fall pregnant' said in jest but with undertones IYSWIM. They seem to have all forgotten the fact that we lost out first pregnancy to an ectopic while DH was in Afghanistan & I now only have one tube. So yes I know we are doubly blessed to be expecting our second & I wish they'd just shut up! Anyway rant over!

Work is going well. I LOVE my job. Bump had two blessings from patients on Friday a Christian one and a muslim one! Both along the lines of 'god bless you and keep you safe' despite not belonging to either faith it was very sweet and I appreciated it. I also had a beautiful hand crocheted white shawl given to me by a patient. Lucky bump!

Bump is huge here and I'm getting myself worked up about the risk of shoulder dystocia & I have no idea why! DD was 8 lb 8 so not of elephantine proportions but I just feel much bigger... This might be a second pregnancy thing. I haven't seen the midwife since 16 weeks and won't until 28 weeks so will discuss my concerns then. I might book a private growth/presentation scan at 36 - 38 weeks but then I read an article saying that mothers estimates of how big a baby is going to be are as accurate as growth scans. Aaarrgh!

Right off to do a spot of name checking and rotting up of scans and will post again.

toobreathless Sun 16-Dec-12 23:32:54

Stats update:

We have had a little flurry of PINK! Congrats to Olliebobs Lilli fluffeh photochick and faithy on your GIRLS. Girls are amazing smile but I would say that as I am expecting DD2 grin

And Coco and Jorich are having surprises smile

Taking us to:
23 girls
23 boys
15 surprises.

How many scans left to go? I'll need a new hobby after scan news stops rolling in!

tattooedapril87 Mon 17-Dec-12 00:15:15

i can't sleep im too bloody uncomfortable. twin2 who is currently breech seems to be enjoying kicking me in bladder/bowel/pelvis.
sigh. didn't think id be this uncomfortable this soon..

sorry for mememe

bext Mon 17-Dec-12 04:27:02

Oh insomnia... How do we love thee? Let us count the ways... Oh no, there are no ways in which this is good. Especially on a Sunday night before a busy week!

Tattooed sorry you're also awake with an uncomfy bump.

Scan on Thursday, really looking forward to that milestone. Spent the weekend with MIL who is desperate to start shopping, as it my mum. Have been given lots of bits and bobs so need to work out what big stuff we need.

Roll on Christmas - sounds like we all need a good break!

And thoughts as ever to mama and Alexander.


Insomnia rules here too. Ds shed 2.6 has finally started sleeping through the night without getting up at all!!!!! And I now wake before 5am regularly. Drives me mad!

My scan is this morning too!

Fluffeh Mon 17-Dec-12 07:37:11

Urgh to insomnia!
I sleep fantastically from 11 - 3am and then I'm wide awake till I decide to get my lazy self out of bed lol.
It doesn't help having a crazy hamster who chews the bars at the top of her cage from 2am until I get up. Think ill swap her for a goldfish haha!
I am so unprepared for Xmas it's scary. We still have DP's DS1and DSS1&2 to buy for plus his step GS and we're rather skint too sad.
I'll be spending lots of time baking this week for special cake presents for close friends and family that always cheers me up.
Good luck for scans today! smile

Mama1980 Mon 17-Dec-12 08:19:19

This is sam again with a quick update. Alexander is doing very well, the doctor says very much as well as he can be. They are being very positive and he did not decline during the 48-72 hour danger zone at all. He is beautiful and strong and we are all very hopeful.
Bec is still in intensive care.
I will update again soon.

lili86 Mon 17-Dec-12 10:37:51

Thanks for the update on Mamas behalf Sam. Glad to hear Alexander is staying strong and hope Bec, is well soon. I think this is her bodys way of resting after everything she has gone through.
Such an inspiration and i wish them both love, strength and happiness.x

JessieEsseXmas Mon 17-Dec-12 10:48:35

Thanks for the update Sam - fantastic news.
Had 25 week GP appointment this morning - measuring spot on and lovely strong heartbeat. Yay!

itsaruddygame Mon 17-Dec-12 12:33:19

Thanks for the update on mama and Alexander Sam.

I am so glad the little one is doing so well and hope that your sister is out of ICU soon and on the mend. They are both in my thoughts often.

birdbrain17 Mon 17-Dec-12 13:10:22

So glad to hear good news from people and those of you who are feeling rubbish you have my sympathy and feel better soon [mn hugs] brew
Drove to manchester and back yesterday (from london) for my best friends wedding, despite spending most of the evening sitting down as I was scared to fall or something stupid and hurt myself and bump, and sleeping in the car on the way home I feel ill from tiredness today, I'm all shaky and have no patience for any of the kids I teach, can't wait to get to bed, I think it's gonna be takeaway for supper tonight no way I'm cooking!!!!

I seem to have a really hyperactive bump it seems to spend all day wriggling and it doesn't wake me up at night, but if I do wake in the night I can feel it kicking then as well. Hope it's getting itself nice and tired so when it's born it'll sleep loads wink

24+1 grin (yay over the 24 week mark!!!!)

Teapig Mon 17-Dec-12 18:42:36

So pleased to hear that Alexander is doing well. Thanks very much for the update Sam. Sending best wishes to mama for a speedy recovery. They are both so strong I'm sure they'll be home before long.

Pretty certain I felt movement last night and again today. So glad to feel something at long last, woohoo! Have my MW appointment tomorrow so hoping everything will be looking nice and normal.

Yay for spot on measurements and hearing a lovely strong heartbeat jesse.

mincepies hope your scan went well today.

LoobyLou33 Mon 17-Dec-12 22:01:29

Hi just marking my place so I can catch up soon...not been on for weeks! Sounds like there are some new people - welcome! - look forward to finding out how everyone's doing.


Trishstar Tue 18-Dec-12 08:18:57

Hey everyone. Still so flued up. Keep expecting to feel better but not yet :-(

Great news about Bec and Alexander. Thanks for the update Sam, still praying for them.

Had MW appt yesterday but cos of high blood pressure in last couple weeks (work stress confused), she wants to see me sooner! She kept asking me if I feel depressed too? I said I'm not just stressed with everything at work and my uncooperative/ever absent team!

On the plus side 23w today! Woohoo xx

Quick poll: anyone else getting bad acid reflux / heartburn and got and natural remedies please?!

I've never had it before and it's pretty constant, not just triggered by food. It's out me right off eating, but I'd like to look forward to Xmas food. smile

I get bad heartburn, am even getting t after drinking water these days confused. A glass of cold milk helps.

Ollibobs Tue 18-Dec-12 08:27:48

What about Gaviscon growyourown? I know it's not natural per se, but safe during pregnancy and works like a charm.

itsaruddygame Tue 18-Dec-12 08:41:44

I have also started with heartburn! Never had it before so a bit of a shock to the system shock. I have read that papaya extract is very good but not done any proper research yet or found out if it is safe in pregnancy. Failing that bring on the gaviscon!

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Tue 18-Dec-12 10:05:16

I've been getting heartburn, especially as I settle down for sleep. Be careful with milk - it'll work initially but because its excess alkaline it can convince your body you don't have enough acid and you end up producing more! Vicious cycle! I go with cheap alternatives to gavisvkn myself.

Very grateful for the update re mama/Bec and Alexander. He's such a little fighter. Praying for his progress and hers.

I am shattered but have a few days off (yay) so just pottering at home getting the place clean!

JessieEsseXmas Tue 18-Dec-12 10:49:50

Yep, heartburn here too. Although it's usually when I've eaten too much rubbish (i.e. a lot of the time!) A glass of milk really helps me, but I didn't know about the alkaline theory OCome - maybe I'll just lay off the chocolate in the first place then. Nooooooo!


JaquelineHyOnChristmasSpirit Tue 18-Dec-12 11:30:18

Hello everyone <waves frantically>

So sorry I have been missing for so long but the last few weeks have been manic.

::Quick Update::
I went for my scan with the specialist and she was lovely. We were waiting around for hours as she had been called to surgery but she made up for keeping us waiting by giving us a a free 3D scan grin grin
Baby is growing well and all measurements look spot on. The 3 cysts I have on the cord are still there and also growing, however, she had a good look and thinks that they are all on the outer part of the cord and not obstructing any of the important inside bits confused
The bad news is that the baby was in a really akward position and would not stop moving (consultant said she had never seen such an active baby) and so they were unable to check heart function and spine growth. There is still concern about these areas and until they can scan clearly we don't really know what if any damage there will be sad
I am booked in for growth scans at 28, 32 and 36 weeks for all the extra checks and have booked in my glucose tolerance test and a meeting with the anethatist alongside the usual midwife checks.
I've come to terms with all of it now and am happy to not know any more as it will make no difference to me or the pregnancy so I am going to enjoy every second of being pregnant smile

The baby is moving loads now and has moved up high now, last night DH saw a load of kicks grin Unfortunately SPD has pretty much crippled me and I am pretty immobile at the moment but I just don't care. I'm having a baby and that makes me amazingly happy.

Oh and I passed my first term at Uni grin grin including 2 (45min) presentations that I got distinctions for and the panel interview to prove that I was fit to practice that I either had to pass or get kicked off the course. All in all I am a very happy girl.

The only down side is Eastbourne hospital being so bloody awful and incompetent. I am putting a complaint through my community midwife and I'm seriously considering giving birth else where but we shall see. I will explain all in another post, this one is long enough as it is grin

I hope you are all doing well and enjoying your growing bumps.

Sam thank you for the update on Bec and Alexander, they are still in my thoughts everyday. I hope they both keep getting stronger as each hour passes. Send them both all our love please. thanks thanks

JaquelineHyOnChristmasSpirit Tue 18-Dec-12 11:40:18

Oh and I am off on an amazing holiday on Friday for a week. Whoop whoop!!!

Go on have a look at it and tell me how fab it's going to be... YIPPEE


jj247 Tue 18-Dec-12 12:03:36

Just back from long weekend in Budapest getting into the Christmas Spirit grin

Great to hear Mama and Alexander are both doing well, really hope you both continue to go from strength to strength full of admiration for you. I went to a wedding reception last week that was actually hosted as a charity night in aid of Bliss (charity for premature babies). Their daughter, who is now a glowing bright lovely 7yr old was born at 24weeks, lovely to see just what alexander can become (perhaps without the pretty party dress!).

jacqueline, great to hear your news and know you are feeling so positive and focused on enjoying your pregnancy. too right, you have every right to be happy and many congrats on storming through your first term at Uni, total respect with everything else going on!

I feel totally pathetic in comparison to two such strong ladies. After 2 great days in Budapest, tramping miles to take in as many sights as possible, i woke up yesterday feeling "less pregnant" and couldn't stop focusing on not having felt bean wriggle for over a day. i was in floods of tears but DP was super supportive, saying bean was probably just tired with all the walking. On the flight home bean suddenly became super active and has been wriggling ever since, so I think he/she is happy to be back in Yorkshire blush I just feel so silly for over-reacting. mind you, I also started crying when watching the news and again at something later in the day so think maybe my hormones might be to blame. DP is loving it as normally it is him crying smile

somewherebecomingrain Tue 18-Dec-12 12:35:24

Jacqueline Hyde my respect. Well done on your course and have a Lovely lovely hols.

Sam/mama1980 congrats on Alexander I look forward to more updates and congratulate you all on your bravery as a family. Xxxx

somewherebecomingrain Tue 18-Dec-12 12:36:27

Jj247 I feel like you - do those strong ladies have any tips for the likes of us? Xx

KelleStarOfWonder Tue 18-Dec-12 14:20:58

sam thank you for the update on Bec and Alexander, glad that they are on the road to recovery.

jj247 Bump seems to settle back to back and I just look like I've eaten lots of cake not carrying a baby. It really is scary when you can't feel much.

jac well done on passing your first term, a relief for you and you can now enjoy your holiday, which looks lovely btw. Not that I am biased about somerset or anything wink. Also great to hear your consultants appt went well, at least plenty of scans mean you get to see baby lots smile

growyourown I found that eating low GI foods helped with the heartburn, even an empty stomach feels just as bad as a full one, so the little and often advise is back again. faithbaby is right, don't overdo the milk, but it can help. I personally go for Rennie Orange flavour chalky chews, they seem to calm it down a little, I can't stand minty flavoured things, gaviscon made me heave [had it last pg]. Fennel tea is good for calming tummy's but it doesn't taste particularly good. I also used to find gripe water effective, it's a baby colic relieving thing. Decades ago it contained alcohol, now it doesn't, but it is fennel seed oil with some other calming stuff, a spoonful of that when it's at it's worst felt good.

Missmuffet28 Tue 18-Dec-12 14:23:30

Lovely news about mama and Alexander!

So glad to hear from you also jaqueline was becoming worried for you but it sounds like you all have it in check! And your holiday looks lovely!! Not a million miles away from me either smile

I'm still snotty as hell this cold isn't shifting particularly quick!
I fell out with dp on Sunday over mil as usual and he went to holland for work last night without saying goodbye so I was in a right mess hehe stupid I know but it's the HORMONES!
He's due back around midnight tonight but he's really ill he thinks he has tonsillitis can't eat speak or swallow so no doubt he'll be a bundle of fun when he gets back!

My landlord died also bless the poor old guy! So now I have the added stress that I may have to move again which is bound to happen around April you can guarantee it! We only moved in, in June and took ages to find the perfect place so its really playing on my mind, but hey ho more important stuff to be thinking about!!!

Hope the ill people get better soon!


Teapig Tue 18-Dec-12 15:01:41

So pleased to hear mama and Alexander are doing well, thanks for the update Sam. Wishing them all the very best as they get stronger every day.

jaqueline really pleased that baby is growing well and well done on doing so well at uni. I don't know how you do it. Happy holidays, the place looks fab!

I went to HSBC today to see if I could make an appointment with a mortgage advisor to talk about a mortgage holiday or a period of paying interest only during maternity leave. I got to see the mortgage advisor there and then but he was actually very rude. I explained the situation and he just shrugged. Then he said 'it's a relatively new mortgage, was your baby not planned?' angry

I don't know if it's just me but I found that question really insulting and felt like saying 'actually we did plan this pregnancy and after we lost our baby last pregnancy the newness of the mortgage wasn't the first thing on our minds'. And the mortgage isn't actually that new, we've had a mortgage with them for three years it's just that we only moved into our new place in December last year so it looks very new but moving was part of our planning to start a family.

And so what if a baby isn't planned? Ours was but by asking that question I felt he was implying that we can't afford this baby and have not thought things through. angry Anyhow, HSBC can't give us a mortgage holiday or temporary reduction of any kind which is a bummer. Ok rant over.

In other news I had an MW appointment this morning and got to hear baby's heart beat which was so lovely.

Sorry for epic post!

itsaruddygame Tue 18-Dec-12 15:54:36

Teapig we have a hsbc mortgage and I asked for our interest only period to be extended about 3 years ago. They were spectacularly unhelpful despite us having had 2 mortgages with them over the last 12 years. I keep meaning to move!! The advisor also sounds incredibly rude - I cannot believe he actually said that to you.

Jaqueline I am glad all went well at your scan and hope they can get a good look at the other bits next time. I think you are doing a great job being so positive - it is not easy and even if there is nothing out of the ordinarly happening it is hard not to worry!

JJ Budapest - sounds very exciting!

Teapig Tue 18-Dec-12 16:37:07

Thanks itsaruddygame, he really pissed me off. I find that such a rude question to ask. I've found HSBC pretty good overall but it's times like I wish I was with a building society rather than a big evil bank known for laudering drugs money and being rude to expectant mums HSBC.

twinklesparkles Tue 18-Dec-12 19:35:30

24+3 smile

Have always just had a large glass of cold milk (full fat, or semi) for heartburn. Normally always does the trick smile thankfully I don't suffer from it too often.

Think I may have started having braxton hicks? ? Stomach goes hard quite a lot, and last night ended up laying on my side for a while to get a bit more relief. Wasn't a great feeling.
I can't remember having them with my ds. Freaked out a slight bit lol

I've paid more off the pram and I've gotten more clothes smile

Dh is enjoying the bump more, loves the kicking and we can start to see the bump move now.

Am absolutely starving, baby must be going through a growth spurt?? I just need food ....

Hmmmmm food smile

usernamegoeshere Tue 18-Dec-12 20:31:24

Jacqueline so glad to see your update & that all is well! That holiday looks amazing too. & in the UK!

I have to say, I hate HSBC with a passion, they are still my bank but if I ever have a decent amount of money am changing. They are a proper kick you when down organisation & am only with them cos I got a bit trapped (as you do!)

I spent weekend with OH, he still hasn't felt any movement. Had some massive pokey out foot kicks but he managed to miss them all. Bit disappointing really. But will see OH again in 3 weeks for a whole week so he will do then I guess.

enjay0811 Wed 19-Dec-12 00:06:30

Oh teapig what can I say - he sounds a right twat. How rude! After calling into my bank the other day I had a customer satisfaction survey phone call. Perhaps hsbc shld do the same and do sumthin about their awful treatment to customers!

Jach well done with the uni stuff! I really don't no how u do it, I'm shattered or stressed most of the time with work and dc's so hats off to you! Glad things r being monitored with the cysts, must of been fab seeing the baby in 3d too! What was it like?

Great news about mama and Alexander too. Hoping they r both gettin stronger with each day.

missm hope u've sorted things with dp now, I hate falling out with Dh but the hormones really don't help. We had a huge row the other mornin n I felt shit for hrs aftawards (he was undermining me in front of dd when I was tellin her off but tht's another story!)

Not much happening in rl with me atm, bought a new car tht will fit 3 car seats in tho ready for bump's arrival smile Also growing at the speed of light, someone asked wen I was due the other day and when I said April, she jst went 'oh!' Made me feel more of an elephant than I already do blush

Sorry for the epic post! Off to bed now (been asleep on the settee since 10 as usual) but wanted to catch up and jst say hello! ((Waves))


bunnygirl80 Wed 19-Dec-12 09:39:40

teapig sorry HSBC were so unhelpful. We had a similar experience when we were emigrating and couldn't sell our uk flat. Asked if we could switch to interest only mortgage and they told us if we did that it would result in our credit rating being affected and probably never being able to get another mortgage again

jacqueline glad your scan was positive. And well done on getting such great results at uni

I'm pretty certain this baby is trying to bust her way out of my bump. I keep getting very painful kicks in one particular spot on the right side of my bump, and yesterday either a head or a bottom (a round lumpy bit anyway) started pushing out of that exact spot

MumofWombat Wed 19-Dec-12 09:41:17

Heartburn city here! I've been prescribed ranitidine as over the counter stuff just wasn't touching it. Certain food make it worse, I swear I only have to be in the near vicinity of orange juice and it gets bad!

Good to hear everyone's updates. I still look fat whilst wearing clothes but when I'm naked I definitely have a bump! As I never had one with DS I'm quite excited, still hoping it looks like a proper baby bump soon to everyone else rather than a 'who ate all the pies' bump.

And Kookie is getting good at kicks, she managed to move the iPad which was on my tummy (currently lying on the bed with a fan on as its stupid temperatures again - 38 degrees forecast for Christmas Day with Boxing Day even higher....).

Missmuffet28 Wed 19-Dec-12 11:15:42

Can't remember who found the cheesy but cute bump cards online but anyway I just ordered mine hehe plus a few others and some personalised Xmas moshi goodies for dsd I couldn't remember what site it was and have the two stupid jingles stuck in my head for the funky pigeon advert and the moonpig one so ended up using the pigeon one there's a 50percent off cards code if anyone's interested can only have up to 3 in basket at a time but well worth it! It's FUNKYASP

Gotta go pick up ds' bike today how the hell I'm gonna get it in the car I don't know! That's the prob with them getting older! Their stuff gets bigger!!

aufaniae Wed 19-Dec-12 11:31:40

jaqueline great to hear you and bump are doing well (SPD aside) I was getting worried about you! Congratulations on passing the first term smile

Do you mind if I ask what your concerns about Eastbourne are?

Great to hear Alexander's doing well, thanks so much for the update Sam. I hope mama's well enough to come out of intensive care soon.

I've also got heartburn. After the horrible feeling in my throat I get a horrible feeling in my head (think it's sinus related maybe) is anyone else getting that? It's really weird and I didn't get it last time!

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Wed 19-Dec-12 11:36:11

'twas me missmuffet! DH smiled in a You're so cheesy but I love it! way!

jacqh I really admire you! Well done for passing your first term! Did you have utterly terrifying OSCEs? Are your uni being supportive/helpful re your pregnancy?

My baby is getting very wriggly! It seems to really like music. I've been to a couple of concerts/been singing which she really seems to respond to. Love that! grin

EmpressMatilda Wed 19-Dec-12 13:37:19

teapig That is rubbish, I totally agree. We have our mortgage with them too but all our other banking is Nationwide or Co-Op. Got locked into the HSBC mortgage ages ago and their rates are so good that despite frequently thinking of switching to Nationwide it's not really possible.

We've thankfully never had to ask for any changes to it though. However, if DH doesn't get a new job before baby comes I think we'll end up having the same conversation with them as you did. Then they'll show their true colours by the sound of it.

He already has some interviews coming up though. I am very impressed. Wouldn't happen like that in my line of work at all!

Hope everyone else is faring well. Very envious of your 3D scan jacqueline. We were thinking of paying for one but can't really justify the expense. Wonderful that they gave you a free one!

I have had either a stomach bug or food poisoning. Was very nast for 24 hours. Was worried about baby with all that vomiting I was doing but he kept on kicking away. Had my 24 week appointment on Monday and all was apparently "just as it should be" with a clear strong heartbeat. Then of course since yesterday morning baby has been very quiet. He does this a lot though. I'll have three or four days of lots of kicks and then two or three days of nothing or very little. Does anyone else have this?

I think perhaps he shifts position. When he's active I get the kicks low down, around my bikini line, and they can be seen from the outside. Then today I haven't had any like that at all but I am getting a 'fluttering' much deeper inside. It feels like he's kicking my bowels! But it could just be my still fragile tummy and not the baby at all. Very strange. Could it be that he just turns round every few days? Is that normal?

jj247 Wed 19-Dec-12 13:41:30

oh, and for anyone not needing the stronger stuff for heartburn but worried that their gaviscon bill is going through the roof, you can get that on the NHS too smile I now have regular doses as I go to bed and again around 3am... I feel for everyone else suffering heartburn already, but it is comforting to know it is normal!

usernamegoeshere Wed 19-Dec-12 16:17:27

I finally bought baby some clothes! 6 teeny vests, a sleepsuit & a hat all for £9 from Tesco (they have a sale).

I had a concern about the outdoor onesies/pramsuits though. They looked really nice & snug but they all said to keep away from fire. Now obviously I plan to keep the baby away from fire but there is a difference to me between a material that would catch fire/burn slowly and something that will go up in 3 seconds. Just to clarify I don't intend to let baby near a fire, but I feel against dressing her in highly flammable materials. A lot of the outfits also had this warning in Tesco, do you think it means that the items are very flammable or is it just a over zealous warning not to leave the baby on the cooker.


Fluffeh Wed 19-Dec-12 19:02:27

Wow so many posts since I last visited!
Really good news about mama and Alexander. I hope she's out of icu soon.
Had an impromptu midwife visit this morning and while she was listening to the heartbeat we heard hiccups -so cute smile.
Heartburn drives me insane, I'm just using rennies at the minute but may be driven to see the dr if it continues!

Teapig Wed 19-Dec-12 19:35:52

I've bought a pram! After much testing out in shops and scouring on eBay DH and I have got an Oyster. We got the chassis, seat and rain cover for £225 brand new online. My sister is giving us her carry cot and her car seat so all we need to get is a new cot mattress and also a foot muff when baby is big enough. Seems like a good pram and a decent price for a new one.

Of course just after we ordered it our fridge broke and it's just cost a packet to get that fixed, sod's law. Very excited though to have a pram.

username, good question about the flammable warnings. I don't know the answer but interested to hear what others think.

23 weeks today!

Giddypants Wed 19-Dec-12 19:58:17

Thank you for the update on mama Sam I think about her and Alexander often, I hope she is out of ICU and on the mend x

Username, I think it's just a warning that material is flammable like that warning you get on peanut butter <may contain nuts> no shit Sherlock

Trishstar Wed 19-Dec-12 21:53:08

Teapig! I've got the Oyster (whole system), what colour have you gone for? There was an offer when I got it for whole system for £360 at a babystore near me.

I've gone for the ocean blue.


EssexWelsh Wed 19-Dec-12 22:59:54

Good work missmuffet just bought 9 copies of the keep calm card for various relatives, all for half price and I would have just got their 4 for 3 offer, so blinking bargain smile thank you

enjay0811 Thu 20-Dec-12 00:44:15

Oh bollox, jst got off the pc after ordering 5 funky pigeon cards! Thanks for the code tho missmuffett hope someone else can use it!

bext Thu 20-Dec-12 06:45:19

Scan today....finally! Can't wait. Reckon I'm probably the last to go so we'll get our final tally of boys/girls/surprises.

I've bought a mamas and papas pram off eBay which is coming on saturday - hope I haven't been too speedy with the mouse and that it's ok. It matches a car seat we'd already been given so seemed like a good deal.

Hope everyone's colds and flu are getting better, and thanks for the mama update Sam.


Trishstar Thu 20-Dec-12 07:09:51

Good luck today bext! Hope everything is ok and you have a cooperative baby for the scan x

Teapig Thu 20-Dec-12 07:47:05

Trishstar that sounds like a great deal you got on the Oyster. It looks like a great pram, I can't wait to start using it. Ours is plain I think, I guess it will be delivered in the New Year.

Good luck today bext, so exciting that you get to see your little one today.

This might be a stupid question but are there any other routine scans after 20 weeks or do they only scan again if something needs checking?

Teapig Thu 20-Dec-12 07:49:46

Trishstar, meant to say plain black. Looks like a lovely pram, hope it serves us both well.

Fluffeh Thu 20-Dec-12 08:13:57

How exciting all the pram buying!
Sometimes I get this really excited feeling with no warning, mainly when I'm doing something mundane. We're over half way to meeting our babies -eek.

Good luck with your scan bext smile.

I have another scan tomorrow afternoon, hopefully baby will move this time and they can measure the spine.

Teapig, I don't think there are anymore routine scans now although I'll be having a series of growth scans to make sure the extra fluid I carry from my broken shunt isn't squishing or hindering baby's development, so sometimes there are more smile.

SneezySnatcher Thu 20-Dec-12 08:29:24

Just checking in. Hope everyone is well. DH's holidays start today so I am looking forward to some quality time with him and DD before the Christmas madness starts!

Trishstar Thu 20-Dec-12 08:33:05

Teapig, think I pushed it around the shop for about 40 mins! Changed seats on it etc! I loved it! So easy up manoeuvre/fold down etc!

Just need to choose changing bag now!

tattooedapril87 Thu 20-Dec-12 08:39:10

i get the fluttering inside bowel feeling too- esp uncomfortable! im finding it the worst bit at mo as last scan we had showed both of twins have their legs down there and they are defo practicing their football/wrestling skills.

I had one of those 4D scans yesterday and it was AMAZING! wouldnt have paid full price but we got an offer off of groupon for 20min scan and dvd of it with cd of pics for £70! i loved it and have already rewatched the dvd 3times!

im starting to feel like its getting very real now- still can't believe im pg!let alone due in April- argh!!!


Missmuffet28 Thu 20-Dec-12 09:06:15

Morning all!
Good luck with your scan today bext and anyone else having rescans, I nearly had to have a rescan luckily a wee and a jiggle momentarily moved my naughty bean!

I'm having trouble weeing at the mo I sit and rock like a mad person but when I get up I still need to go its very frustrating returning to the toilet every 5 mins!

Also found out I'm working 5 hours Boxing Day and they put me on customer service eek!!!! In Argos on Boxing Day that is not the position you want to be filling lol!! I'm a little annoyed I'm even in, as its kind of a family day for me but hey ho someone's gotta do it and ill be home by 2.15!

Am seeing mw on 27th for my 25week check can't wait for that! Can't believe in my notes the dates are like every 2 weeks after that! The last weeks are going to fly by!!

Day off today and dp got paid so I'm gonna go and make the best of it hehe! (He's at work btw!)
Glad you could make use of my code also! I rarely pay full price for anything if I can help it there's always a code somewhere grin

bext Thu 20-Dec-12 11:08:52

Can't really concentrate at work this morning so an sourcing the web for 'inspiration'!!

So a bit of humour to lighten our Thursday's - is this what the future holds for us al?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNVde5HPhYo

bext Thu 20-Dec-12 11:10:29

Now with 'live' link! MotherHood

usernamegoeshere Thu 20-Dec-12 13:35:27

Good luck with your scan Bext am a bit jealous, I felt like I was a bit too daunted & stressed to really enjoy that scan.

I looked more into the Tesco fire warnings, & Giddy was correct, the clothes are no more flammable than anything else, its just a pointless extra warning.

Time seems to be going really really fast now. I think its Christmas doing it, ever since finding out was pregnant I thought a baby was ages away cos not till next year, & now its nearly next year.


Bambino29 Thu 20-Dec-12 16:05:42

Hi everybody,

Been a while since I checked in - lovely to hear how everyone's getting on! Username - know what you mean about time going quickly - the first twelve weeks seemed to take forever and since then, time has just flown by! Babies will be here before we know it!

Had my scan on the 1st and all went well. Found out we're having a girl! Had 'low' downs risk (1/2450) but now, having looked at lots of other people's on here, seems relatively high (am just 30)?

Thanks everybody for pram chat - the Oyster does look great. Going to have a test drive of some at the weekend!

22 + 4

bext Thu 20-Dec-12 16:18:11

Hi all

Home from scan - its a boy smile
All healthy although was in a funny position so the sonographer made me jump up and down a lot which somewhat challenged my pelvic floor control blush

If I'm honest, I'm a little bit disappointed it's a boy. Which then makes me feel massively guilty - we tried for so long for this baby that I should just be overjoyed whatever it is, we're so lucky to have managed to conceive at all. And especially with some of the news we've had on this thread, I need to just be thankful that he and I are healthy. But if I'm honest, I'm a bit scared. All the little boys we know seem to be uncontrollable and not very nice to be around.

So any words of wisdom from you out there with gorgeous DS's most welcome!

I am terrible aren't I? Should be so happy and yet have such mixed emotions.


KelleStarOfWonder Thu 20-Dec-12 16:47:05

username it seems a usual warning, it's even on adults clothing, yet you don't tend to look at those labels as much smile With the snowsuits they usually have a polyester filling to keep it cosy, which is a flammable substance.

bext it's not an unusual response to feel a little disappointed. My friend found out she was having a girl earlier this year and was really upset as she really wanted a boy. She is loving having a little girl now. My little girl is an uncontrollable, self obsessed maniac... but I think that is most 2-3 years olds, to be honest, whether they are boy or girl. There has been a little influx of boys at baby group and they are just as snuggly as girls smile We are all allowed these little worries. I am both hoping and dreading this one being a boy... we've decided on a surprise for now... can't wait to see what we get smile Glad everything else was good.

bambino great to hear you had a good scan too. Your down's result is the same as mine and I am 31.

usernamegoeshere Thu 20-Dec-12 16:57:37

Bext its not terrible at all. After my 20 week scan I was really miserable for a few days, everything was just a bit overwhelming, I couldn't get my head around her being a girl and felt a bit sad almost like I was grieving a tiny bit for the boy I had imagined, then I felt bad for feeling bad, but now I can't imagine her being any different.

I think I would have felt a bit like that either way though. The 20 week scan has quite a big build up and I would think its natural feel a bit down afterwards, like having holiday/January blues but with more hormones.

Teapig Thu 20-Dec-12 17:59:21

Don't feel bad bext, it's natural and some when little arrives you won't be able to imagine yourself without your gorgeous DS.

I was secretly really hoping for a girl but was convinced we it was a boy. When we found out it was a girl I was thrilled but part me of me felt sad it wasn't a boy, I think a small part of you feels like that whatever the gender.

tattooed the 4D scan sounds amazing! You got a really deal too. I'm very tempted to have one, seems crazy that we won't see our babies now until they arrive but not long to go I guess.

I stupidly ate raw mozzerella today without knowing if the milk was pasturised or not. D'oh, hope it's ok.

Giddypants Thu 20-Dec-12 18:09:06

bext don't beat yourself up, it's really normal to feel disappointed when you imagined you were getting one thing, then find out their totally to opposite, DH was a bit disappointed that we were having another boy, his words were, aw but I wanted a girl! I really felt for him, but boy are fab, we already have a 4 year old boy, he's fabulous very much a mummy's boy, and comes for hugs and snuggles, would cuddle all day if he could! No in the slightest boisterous.
Think what I'm saying is that all kids are different, boy or girl.

Just got back from seeing my GP. I needed her to refer me to anti natal physio clinic, was telling her about the pain I've been suffering, especially after work, she was keen to sign me off sick, but I don't want to go just yet, so she made me promise that when things get too bad I must go back to get a sick note!

I've never been off sick unless I was really poorly in 10 years, and I feel guilty about letting my colleagues down, was informed last week that 17 staff had gone off sick with Norwalk! So we are a bit thin on the ground already, and it's the season for people getting really ill, I just don't know what to do.


aufaniae Thu 20-Dec-12 18:49:59

bext I thought I was having a girl the first time round. I couldn't imagine myself as a mother to a boy. Now I can't imagine anyone else being my first born other than my lovely, clever, funny, kind-hearted little boy.

And anyway, you're not having any old boy. Forget those other boys you've met, they're not your child! You're having your son. He'll be half you, but totally one of a kind. There will be no one else like him on earth!

You will fall in love with your child, whether girl or boy, and you will be glad that they're them, I promise smile

It's OK to recognise that you feel this way now. But things will change when you meet him (if not before!) smile

Emmie10 Thu 20-Dec-12 19:00:45

Good to hear Mama and Alexander's update. I hope they are both getting stronger by the day.
I had my 24 week check up and measuring at 28 weeks so have to go for a growth scan tomorrow. Anyone else had any experience of this?

angeltattoo Thu 20-Dec-12 19:12:22

24 week appt here today, all was well, HB heard and she's been kicking my tummy today. Am still desperate to feel more movement, but getting a bit more each day I think.

Last morning at work tomorrow, then off til after new year, can't wait, looking forward to seeing family and friends. Although. Wish this bloody house would sell so we wouldn't have to stay with relatives!

Am loving the motherhood rap!!!

P.s. Emmie I measured 27cm, am 24 weeks tomorrrow, she said it was big but said nothing else? What did you measure, do you know? At least the scan is tomorrow so you don't have to wait, and I'm sure you'll be reassured all is fine - and another chance to see your LO!

bext Thu 20-Dec-12 19:12:36

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your words.
I know I will love him dearly when he arrives. smile

bunnygirl80 Thu 20-Dec-12 19:21:22

bext I cried with disappointment when I found out DS was a boy at our scan. I'd got over it well before he arrived and now I can't imagine loving anyone more. He's definitely a child that likes to run about and be active, but he has plenty of little girl friends that are the same. But is also very very loving and cuddly, much more so than the girls I know.

I think a bit of disappoitment's normal, even if you had no preference, as you'll always wonder what it would have been like if they were the other gender. This is pretty much definitely my last child, and when we found out she's a girl I was a bit sad Ill never have another son.

Trishstar Thu 20-Dec-12 19:29:19

Bext I did have a cry after our scan too, we did have a slight preference for a girl as the boys in OH family are in the majority! Plus I'd always pictured myself having a girl first even from a young age. OH did want a girl too, but now I wouldn't change my little man for the world. I'm excited to have 2 men in my life to look after me and if my little man is anything like his daddy he will be one amazing man! Xxxx

SneezySnatcher Thu 20-Dec-12 20:15:00

Emmie I measured big last pregnancy and had to have a growth scan. All was fine at the scan (although even the scans are notoriously inaccurate) and DD was born weighing 7lb 7oz so not big at all.

Measuring with a tape measure is so objective and I think different MWs can all get different measurements. On the plus side, bonus scan!

Emmie10 Thu 20-Dec-12 20:39:59

Thanks ladies! angeltattoo I was 24+1 and measuring 28 although the midwife said that everything looks and feels as it should. I was definitely not going to turn down the opportunity to have another peek at baby.
Sneezy that is reassuring. Did your midwife measurements come up as 'big' even though scan confirmed it was fine?

SneezySnatcher Thu 20-Dec-12 20:58:47

Emmie yes. MW put me around 4 weeks over. Scan put me on 50th centile. Obviously there are other reasons someone may measure big (big baby, lots of fluid) but I reckon most of the time it's because the measurements are such an inaccurate method.

Well, I started getting lots of tightenings over the weekend. As it's my fifth I just thought out was bh starting early but yesterday at work they started intensifying and becoming more frequent. Got gp appt who diagnosed uti so now knackered on antibiotics. Glad I went though.

The funniest part was ringing my boss to explain I was leaving early and hearing him desperate to get of f phone and stop talking about girl stuff! Must remember that!

ILoveNoodles Fri 21-Dec-12 04:52:12

Hi all just checking in.
Have my next midwife app 27th, will be 24 wks, will also have another scan so looking forward to that.
I am currently lying in bed working my way through a tin of quality street given to me from a friend as a christmas prezzie, <oops!> trying not to rustle the bloody wrappers as DP is lying next to me asleep. <tut tut!>

EmpressMatilda Fri 21-Dec-12 08:12:34

bext I was exactly the same. I wanted a girl and could somehow imagine us with a girl and not a boy as there are no 'boyish' males in our family. So although I put on a brave face at 20 weeks inside I was just as you describe including the guilt at feeling that way. However, I am now totally reconciled to the idea and love my son so much already even though he's not born yet. I wouldn't swap him for anyone! So you will start feeling like that I assure you. And who knows what his personality will be. I think that's a lottery anyway with kids. The girl next door to us is a total nightmare whereas my husband and my dad were both well behaved, quiet kids and teens!

EmpressMatilda Fri 21-Dec-12 08:25:35

Had a chat with some friends who are also due next year. We've started doing 'pregnancy bingo' with our symptoms! I find it funny that everyday my body does something strange and unexpected and all I have to do is type it into Google with the word 'pregnancy' to find it's yet another thing that's quite likely in pregnancy!

I woke at 3am and thought I was having a heart attack until I remembered you all talking about bad heartburn. So there's another one for the bingo! And I can add thrush, nosebleeds, tingly fingers and wrist ache! Ticking them all off makes it almost fun!

I am feeling quite jolly today. Last day at work before Christmas. I have a great husband. My baby is growing. And today I reach the 25 week mark.

Happy Christmas to everyone! grin

usernamegoeshere Fri 21-Dec-12 17:44:22

oooh pregnancy bingo sounds really fun. Well you know, not actually fun but less annoying for everyone around me if I tick something off a card than moan constantly.

I seem to have anger issues at the moment, its been a few days. Literally wake up in the morning raging & I don't improve much during the day. I blame lack of sleep (& obviously my hormones too)

24+0 feels like a milestone but I had a really bad night of stressy dreams that I was in labour/waters broke last night, kept waking up in a panic.

MumofWombat Fri 21-Dec-12 20:22:22

Totally natural bext. I didn't find out with DC1, and everybody (and I really mean everybody) reckoned I'd have a girl from the way I was carrying and all the other wives tales. I allowed myself to believe it, so when I was in recovery (long story, but I had a general anaesthetic c section) and was told I had a boy one of my few memories of that day was saying "really? Are you sure?". We had other stuff going on (DS was in special care and then the next day got transferred to a specialist children's hospital) and it took me ages to get my head around the fact that he was indeed a he. Tbh, even weeks later I'd be looking at clothes in a shop and think 'I can't buy that cute item because you're not a girl'. I loved him, but I wanted him to be a girl.
He has grown up (20 months now) to be a funny, very cute, loving, independent, too clever for his own good, strong willed little monkey who lights up my life. He is simply the best thing since sliced bread. And whilst I would do anything for him not to have his heart condition if I could, I wouldn't have him any other way (although if you asked me that when I discovered the crayon drawing on the walls this morning it might be a different story....). When I found out this DC is going to be a girl I was shocked, and whilst happy, there was a little bit of me that thought 'I won't have another one just like DS'.
And you can find cute clothes for boys, and I was that mum who matched socks to his outfit etc!

And I can't remember now whether it was chat or aibu, but there is a thread about the Bounty reps that come round hospitals. You might want to read it to prepare yourself. I was quite shocked reading it, thank goodness we don't get them here!

LikeCandy Sat 22-Dec-12 08:10:32

Hi all, so good to read how everyone is doing.
fluffeh I added you to the stats thread when I updated my due date on there (completely forgot to do that after 12w scan!) due 3rd April though midwife is predicting the 1st!
I had my 24w midwife appointment at 25+2, heartbeat sounded great, bump measuring 23cm, I feel great in myself, but I have protein in my urine so they'll be keeping an eye on that.
The only real niggles I'm getting are swollen legs / feet at the end of the day, occasional headaches, and heartburn after evening meals.
Have an awesome weekend all, hope everyone is prepared for Xmas?!

MumOfTwoCats Sat 22-Dec-12 17:47:00

Hi likecandy how did they measure your bump? I am huge and really worried I'm having a toddler baby rather than a little one!

I'm also getting swollen legs and have to be mindful that I don't do too much. only 24 weeks tmw and already huffing and puffing when I over exert! I new I should have done more exercise! I've been napping for two hours because I popped to town for 4hours and that included a long lunch!


Ooh, hello! I've finally found you again! I've had to to find my way via the helpful links from the very first thread!

I've been AWOL for ages, hope everyone is as well as can be!

I've had lots of nausea and exhaustion, long busy days at work haven't helped! But generally i'm in good form. I just cry all the time at the moment, over anything sad But I'm sure it's just hormones.

I'm 22+4 today - over halfway. smile

toobreathless Sun 23-Dec-12 00:15:24

Hi ladies,

Just thought I'd mention the JoJo Maman Bebe online sale: baby stuff & Maternity wear from £5 with free delivery. The stuff is still full
price in their shops though, I was a bit shock to see stuff at £26 in the Harrogate store today that is £9 online! Bit naughty really.

Sainsburys also have a great sale on.....if you're having a boy. Some lovely bright stuff with dinosaurs etc, sleepsuits & vests half price. Their girls stuff is a very sickly pink though IMO.

Tired here, work is very busy. DD has learnt to say 'baby' which is very sweet although she still has no idea that there is one in my tummy! Think that might be a shock grin

25 + 2

toobreathless Sun 23-Dec-12 00:21:05

After lovely scan news from bambino and bext we are at:

24 girls
24 boys
15 surprises.

Yes, we are having 63 babies between us! Aren't we clever grin

Anyone left to scan?

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sun 23-Dec-12 05:38:50

Just a reminder that the Next sale starts today as well. Should be lots of bargains for maternity stuff. I have to work (boo!) but have a slot booked online for when I get home!

Fluffeh Sun 23-Dec-12 08:02:48

Thank you likecandy I have no idea how to do it myself.

We had the second 20wk scan to see the spine and everything looks good. I took my aunt along too, she was so excited it was funny to watch.
Baby decided to lie flat on her face with her bum in the air! Rubbish position to see anything other than the spine but at least it pleased the sonographer lol.

Last night I didn't do much sleeping. My DP's children live with their mum and he found out yesterday he won't be seeing them over Xmas sad. Their not little children but it will be his first without them in almost 18 years and he's feeling quite sad about it. I'm going to try and make the day as special as possible for him and hope it makes him feel a bit better.

Hope everyone is doing well.
Thanks for the sale tip offs, a brand new big Next has been built nearby so I may brave a visit smile.

SneezySnatcher Sun 23-Dec-12 08:28:40

Hello all! Good luck to those of you braving the sales. I'm off to The Sage Theatre to watch 'The Snowman' accompanied by an orchestra -so very excited. We went last year too and it made me feel really Christmassy! I'm possibly more excited than DD!