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May 2013 - we've seen our babies and our trousers are tighter as we enter the second trimester!

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SevenElvesAndAReindeer Fri 16-Nov-12 17:53:42

Shiny new thread. Come and grab a brew and a biscuit.

SecretCervix Fri 16-Nov-12 17:58:33

Hi. Didn't realise other thread was full already. Hope everyone is well. Liking thread title. Better than mine on the last thread.


SevenElvesAndAReindeer Fri 16-Nov-12 18:05:40

secret just thought I'd get ahead so we could link to the new one, there were only 4 posts left on it anyway.

MaybeAMayBaby Fri 16-Nov-12 18:16:41

last time I looked was days ago! I'd probably better catch up-all good I hope? Thanks, Seven. .

Full of a cold-AGAIN! Is this normal? I am also peeing all the bloody time. In worried now it a urine infection. No other symptoms though. Anyone else peeing even more than before?
. DH and I are both sulking over which takeaway we should have tonight.
Decisions decisions.

wilderumpus Fri 16-Nov-12 18:20:44

hurrah new thread! thanks seven <marks place>

maybe it is normal as your immune system is lower so takes ages to kick stuff and your nasal membranes might be swollen too (mine are, feel constantly stuffy). and am still peeing lots tho did manage to sleep through last night without going for one single wee! <celebrates>

finished work for day, have lovely weekends all!

ps am SO spotty and greasy today! yuk.


10storeylovesong Fri 16-Nov-12 18:21:01

Just quickly marking my place...

Seven It's because I had two really long labours before.With ds1 I was prepped for a c section but they got him out with forceps it was awful I had a terrible stitch job and I was in agony afterwards and back in hospital for New Year's Eve/day.With ds2 he had the cord around his neck and I picked up an infection.

Maybe I am still Peeing constantly notice it more at night.I also wondered of it was a bladder infection.

Wirrawoo Fri 16-Nov-12 19:01:25

Love the new thread title!
Wow things really do move fast on these threads. Hope everyone is doing ok today.
wilde hummus-gate made me laugh smile poor you!
seasalt can totally understand your worry. Hopefully by now if it nothing has developed you should be ok. Hope the rest of your trip in Bali is fab. enjoy the sun and sand and hopefully the MS won't be too yucky thanks
panda what an odd and inappropriate reaction! I know it's a really weird situation to find yourself in, but try to to let it get to you. Alas there are some weird people in the world, but you don't want to give something that crap any more of your time and energy.
We've just gone totally 'public' with the news over the last few days and luckily all members of our respective families reacted well. His mum behaved herself which was our main worry and the rest of his and my family were over the moon which has been so lovely. Did the Facebook thing yesterday and have been overwhelmed with the lovely messages from friends around the world. The only slightly negative reaction so far has been the parent of a student today who looked really disappointed for me and went off on one about how my life would never be the same again and how her career ended when she had kids (she was a dancer). Felt really sorry for her, but in my profession I'm surrounded by friends & colleagues that are all supporting each other, navigating kids and balancing it with work. Still it does feel weird when other people project their regrets onto you. I mean, yeah dur of course having a baby changes your life, but that is what life is about. If nothing changed it would be an odd life. I'm 35, this is a change we are both totally fine with!!!
Sorry for the rant, off to have a nice calm cup of tea...

Wirrawoo Fri 16-Nov-12 19:02:30

Oops sorry panda meant to type try NOT to let it get to you blush

LittleSpade Fri 16-Nov-12 19:02:36

Yay shiny new thread!

I think I'm peeing more than ever too! Especially during the daytime - seem to be down to only once per night now though thankfully.

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 16-Nov-12 19:28:08

hello again. I'm not peeing too much, probably not been drinking enough.

GP just called with chest X-ray results, there's no fluid there and it all looks ok, so it's just a matter of resting and recovering. I always thought pneumonia sounded awful, but I had no idea just how awful! I hope that all the drama and stress is over now.

Hope everyone has a nice weekend!

MooLL Fri 16-Nov-12 19:41:27

Hi all back from midwives appointment and feel drained! It's the first time I've talked to a medical person about by DD birth experience and was surprised how emotional I got ... Anyhow upshot is I will be consultant led (age, pre-eclampsia and emergency c) and midwife didn't bat and eyelid when I said I did not want to try for a vbac but wanted an elective ... Her words were ... "'my goodness I don't blame you after that experience" ... So feeling much better ... Also bp and proteins all good - phew!

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Fri 16-Nov-12 19:57:16

tasmanian glad there's no fluid there, it'll obviously just take longer to fully recover and feel 'normal' again due to pregnancy. Make sure you're getting plenty of rest.

Glad I'm not the only one who can't stop peeing!

berri Fri 16-Nov-12 20:03:40

Thanks for the new thread seven

seasalt try not to get worried, as someone said earlier I think you'd have been struck down by now if you were going to get anything - perhaps it was pre-frozen and that's why it was still raw, which will probably work in your favour. Anyway you probably don't want to be thinking about it anymore!

Got some news, had yet another scan and found out the sex (80% likelihood anyway!) and


Totally shocked, thought it was going to be another boy. Mother's intuition not correct on this occasion!

Wirrawoo Fri 16-Nov-12 20:13:26

Congratulations berri!!! Yay for a little girl smile

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Fri 16-Nov-12 20:17:30

I'm getting indigestion after ever meal now. Rennie have become my new food group. Waiting for MIL to send some Tums so I don't feel like I'm eating toothpaste.


TremoloGreen Fri 16-Nov-12 20:21:34

Wow, a new thread!

seasalt I really hope you can relax and enjoy your holiday. If you're not sick from chicken by now, you'll be fine. Just think, even if you feel rubbish, it's better feeling rubbish in Bali than on the commute to work/ walking to the bus in the rain/ trying to sit through a meeting grin

great news on the scans everyone, especially berri

panda your aunt sounds bonkers, what a thing to say!! How did your other family members react to that? Try not to stew over it, it is clearly her issue.

beaut I'm sorry to hear you're having a tough time. Have you managed to talk to your DH? I'm guessing if you haven't told him, you haven't accessed any help before. I really hope you can feel brave enough to tell the midwife (you probably won't be the first person she's seen with this problem) becuase with an ED I think it's quite helpful to have someone to talk to and to have some coping strategies on hand for when things get tough. Would it help you to make a healthy diet plan, maybe with a nutritionist, an just stick to that? Taking the decision-making out of eating is quite good when you're battling with food issues.

As a first timer, I have not thought much about a birth plan yet... kind of sticking my head in the sand! I have a book called 'Birth Skills' by Juju Sindin which a friend gave to me. She also gave one on hypnobirthing which has some hilarious (and amazing) pictures in... think everyone naked, very 70s hairstyles!!

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Fri 16-Nov-12 20:39:12

Yay berri, congratulations!

I've just updated the stats thread with my revised EDD, I've also added berri's girl and wilde's boy, hope no one minds. I know we have another boy too but I'm sorry I can't remember who it is!

milkandribena Fri 16-Nov-12 20:54:22

ohh a new thread

congrats on the girl berri
hope you feel a little better tas
oh no flamin

Pregnancy wise I think everything is okay. My boobs seemed to have grown again overnight. - They'll be as big as my head if they continue sad

It is so nice that people are finding out what they are having smile (non)-man wont let us find out sad

I'm off to his tomorrow - am basically bringing all of my study with me, so much work to do. Probably could do with not going.

LittleBairn Fri 16-Nov-12 21:13:40

Just marking my space.
Feeling very tired, I'm going to spend the weekend in bed.


LittleBairn Fri 16-Nov-12 21:14:27

Oh yes on Congrats on the girl. berri

cuppateaandagingersnap Fri 16-Nov-12 21:31:11

Fab new thread grin
seasalt hope you're feeling ok and manage to enjoy what's left of your holiday.
berri congratulations on your little girl!!!

I'm another one moving at the start of the year, we have to be out of our house by the 1st Feb so need to find something soon!

Rhienne Fri 16-Nov-12 21:35:29

[waves at people on the new thread]

15+6 today. If I remember correctly, had ms for about 16 weeks last time. So this morning's little episode was one last flash in the pan, and it's all going to be smooth sailing from now on. Right? Right??!?

Hope all those who've been stressed about scans are feeling ok at the moment, and the threatening food poisoning doesn't eventuate, and the pneumonia gets better soon!

Here it's SAD that's threatening. Must find fun activities to do to keep mind of the fact that it's so dark! And just getting darker. Really not a fan of winter this far from the equator... [grumble. Grumble. Grumble] I have a girly afternoon in planned tomorrow, will knit and watch period movies with a girlfriend. DH and DS requested to be elsewhere. Can't do girls nights at the moment, as I'm in bed too early! smile

Rhienne Fri 16-Nov-12 21:37:07

Oh - and can we please be careful to make sure we take the most updated version of the stats thread to copy and paste when we update! There,s a chunk of updates that got dropped. I'm going to reeneter my new date - but I think a few oer newcomers might have disappeared completely. sad

mwncigirl Fri 16-Nov-12 22:40:10


mwncigirl Fri 16-Nov-12 22:43:13

Sorry about last message, still can't type on my comp and only way to mark my place.
Thanks for the new thread! It's so good to hear how everyone's getting on.

Kittykatmacbill Fri 16-Nov-12 23:04:10

seven great thread name! And I'm my case sadly very true, just ordered some smart work trousers, so meetings should be a little less agony!
panda that is a truly terrible reaction, really bizarre is she normally like that? Puts my reation issues in perspective...
Just marking my place, hard to keep up! grin

wilderumpus Sat 17-Nov-12 08:01:21

congrats on your girl berri! whee!

not my boy seven! Is wirra grin I don't know what I am having yet!

peardrop2 Sat 17-Nov-12 08:14:07

berri congrats on your lovely news. How many weeks were you when you found out? My next scan is at 16 weeks so I'm hoping they can tell me then!

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Sat 17-Nov-12 09:33:30

Sorry wilde, will go and change it blush.

LittleBairn Sat 17-Nov-12 09:48:50

I actually had to go buy some smaller trousers last night I hoped to hold out until I needed maternity wear but all my trousers were falling apart. I was going to buy some bras too unsure of my size now and I don't want my uber sensitive boobs measured.

Currently feeling pissed off with DH he now has the minor common cold I had last week ( I also had a flare up of my sinus problems unlike DH...) he's acting all pathetic and expecting sympathy. NO bloody way I had to get on with our plans last weekend while not being able to take anything for it while he's on every cold med he can get his hands on!

Bunnychan Sat 17-Nov-12 10:16:41

littlebairn my man is the same lol! Go out for the day and let him die by himself lol! I'm thinking about getting some new trousers today. I know it's early (especially as this is my first) but I've woken up massive! I probably still look fat rather than pg but honestly, it wasn't this big last night! 13+2 x

cuppateaandagingersnap Sat 17-Nov-12 10:45:09

I'm just about to head out to buy trousers too, sick of being cut in half all week! I've definitely got a little belly poking out although may be mostly gas (sorry TMI!)


10storeylovesong Sat 17-Nov-12 11:39:14

Congrats to all those who have found out their sex - so jealous! I'm so impatient!

Ellypoo Sat 17-Nov-12 13:42:35

Thanks for the new thread seven

Glad you haven't got infected fluid tas, and hope you feel better really soon.

berri, yay to finding out!
We have decided not to find out intentionally but if we happen to due to the extra scans then fair enough smile

Am so uncomfortable, lower back ache, and bump ache and the start of PGP, can't get comfy in bed, even with loads of pillows. Also, I get really achey lower legs by the end of the day - sorry, had sworn that I wouldn't moan if I got pregnant again, and I'm trying not to.

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Sat 17-Nov-12 13:55:37

Elly we're allowed to moan while we're pregnant, we're growing new life inside us and it takes its toll on our bodies. It doesn't mean for one second we're not thrilled to be pregnant, at least here we can all moan together smile.

My trousers are still fine, I haven't put any weight on yet either despite not having morning sickness. I was wearing maternity jeans at 8 weeks with DD.

Is anyone else still completely exhausted?


LittleBairn show your DH this and make him feel thoroughly ashamed. wink

LittleBairn Sat 17-Nov-12 14:16:24

grin mamma will show that too him!
Bunny he eventually dragged himself out of bed. I left him to it and went to Mothercare to look at baby bouncer/rockers as my mum is keen to know what to buy for a gift but I'm really fussy so she insists I choose it.
All I want is something that reclines well, lasts until 6-9 months and is a tad softer than a Brillo pad! Oh yeah and no bloody flashing lights and all the rubbish.

Watching an American birth programm I want to punch the bastard Dr who is sniggering "I've done this a hundred time...a million times...I know every trick in the book" yip you guesed it hes a Male Dr he never bloody 'done' anything! he's pissed off she refused an epidural.

Gemlove Sat 17-Nov-12 14:19:39

Hello to all... New joining this thread. I'm due may 11th so am 15+1 ... Thought I felt a little flip flop of the bean down there last night, but don't know whether it was in my imagination!!

This is my first and still trying to pinch myself!

I wore my skinny black jeans for the last time last night - never been so uncomfortable at a dinner in my whole life. Time for the stretchy comfy jeans!!

LittleBairn Sat 17-Nov-12 14:22:11

Welcome gem This is my first too and I still can't quite believe its actually real too. smile


Bunnychan Sat 17-Nov-12 17:19:18

Well, I looked at the maternity clothes in the new look, panicked and ran lol. I'm not ready yet I think :-s x

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 17-Nov-12 18:46:47

hi gem nice to have you on board! I'm feeling little flip flops as well smile

bunny same here, thought new look mat clothes looked nice. Though I must say I wasn't ready either!


berri Sat 17-Nov-12 18:50:20

Thanks everyone smile

peardrop the sonographer said she had a good idea at 15 weeks but I knew I was having another scan at 16 so we waited until then just in case she changed her mind!

16+2 now, and the maternity jeans are ON!

babygeek Sat 17-Nov-12 18:56:59

Hi there Gem, welcome to our lovely thread. I am still in my skinny black jeans but always with the button and zip undone! And long tops or bump band of course smile Lucky they are reasonably tight so no chance of them potentially falling down haha.

Bunny I managed to pick up a couple of really cute maternity dresses and bump band from eBay last weekend. For some reason it felt less scary/committal than buying them a high st shop, not sure why?? I still only have a wee bump so they are ready in reserve at the moment. There are some great bargains on there too.

Elly go ahead and moan as much as you like, we are all suffering in our own ways. It's nice to know I'm not the only one. My DP said he didn't know pregnancy turned women into such whingers! Claimed to be joking, I will tell him I have 40+ pregnant ladies who would not take too kindly to that comment! Can you all turn up to my doorstep to tell him off please? grin

rachywhite83 Sat 17-Nov-12 20:27:36

I'm in agony ! My nipples are going to drop off I think ! Please tell me I'm not the only one. Feel like someone is pulling crocodile clips in them sad

MooLL Sat 17-Nov-12 20:39:56

Yup rschy another one with painful nips ... I describe them as if someone has sliced off tge ends OUCH!!!!

Meant to say was chatting to my midwife about the research findings on alcohol in pregnancy that came out this week. She told me to ignore them as the quality of the research was very poor ... And advocated a nice drink over Christmas!!! Loving my midwife!

Wirrawoo Sun 18-Nov-12 00:10:11

Hi gem welcome smile
Have been in maternity jeans for a few weeks now blush could probs have still fitted into my old ones but they were soooo uncomfortable. Seraphine had some nice skinny maternity jeans so got a blue and black pair and am living in them!
All these people feeling flip flops... can't feel it yet. Last night felt like a small something was poking into some internal organ but couldn't quite tell if it was bubs or not.
gem it's my first too and feel the same... It's all so exciting and can't quite believe its all real.
Don't worry elly moan away. If you can't moan on an internet forum then where the frack can you?! wine

lollypopsicle Sun 18-Nov-12 07:56:30

Hello ladies. New fred already, we're rattling through them smile
I went to a wedding yesterday. The bride is pg and had to buy a new dress on Thursday as her bump had suddenly grown and she couldn't fit into it anymore! She still looked great, had that glow I'm waiting for!

Most people I've told at work say they suspected as I've got a proper belly now that is hard to hide. Although its still at that 'could be preggo could be fat' stage . I've been in maternity trousers/jeans for a few weeks but haven't moved on to tops yet. I'm showing much earlier than last time. DP thinks its going to be a girl based on this evidence hmm

MS is defo getting better, mostly a first thing and evening thing now. I'm still tired all the time tho.

milk I'm loving the non-man adventures It's like a mini soap to keep up to date with- all romantic n stuff smile

*RT I can see what you mean about the stress of tests that give you a risk but not an answer. That is why I didn't have any. A friend of mine just found out her unborn baby has downes as she had the amnio. They have decided to abort. It's such a difficult and personal decision and I really don't think you know how you'll react until you're in that situation (like you were saying) I'm gutted for her. Every time I think about it, it makes me cry sad. As someone else said, for me DS is kind of the least of my worries. But everyone is different and has to make choices based on what's best for them and their family.

Anyway, enough of my ramblings! Hope everyone is well. Anyone been told they're 'glowing' yet?

lollypopsicle Sun 18-Nov-12 08:08:24

Forgot to add 13+3

cuppateaandagingersnap Sun 18-Nov-12 08:44:55

I just keep getting people tell me I look pale and tired perhaps that's just another way of saying 'glowing' hmm

Kittykatmacbill Sun 18-Nov-12 08:55:16

Definitely not glowing, looking fat (not pregnant) and generally a bit drained. And even beter i have woken up with the most terrible cold. Have been wearing maternity jeans for a bit as other trousers are totally agony...

Still really happy as Edinburgh is lovely and sunny and I am at 14 weeks grin

SeaSalt1 Sun 18-Nov-12 10:20:17

I'm looking forward to getting a belly - I've been pretty ill with MS and have lost about 8lbs so far - can't wait for this stage to finish so I can go maternity wear shopping and have a nice bump. We're back from our holiday and scan is tomorrow (plus chat with the dr. about the weight loss I think). Please cross everything for a good appointment...

Thanks for all the kind words about the chicken incident - no tummy bug, thank GOODNESS, I'm not sure I could have dealt with that on top of the general nausea etc.


Ellypoo Sun 18-Nov-12 10:28:08

Good luck for your appt tomorrow sea

I have been told I look glowing but I think people are just trying to make me feel better because I just feel shattered constantly!!

Feeling a few little 'rumblings' but my scan on fri showed I've got anterior placenta so I probably won't feel any proper movements for a while yet sad

Ellypoo Sun 18-Nov-12 10:28:40

Forgot to add 15+5

10storeylovesong Sun 18-Nov-12 11:08:21

I keep getting told I'm glowing... usually as I exit the toilet after losing my lunch! Tbh, it's pissing me off as I feel like crap and know I look the same!

I've been wearing maternity jeans and leggings from really early on, mainly cos I could justify buying new clothes more if believed I'd get my wear out of it! I've just been having a good nosy on eBay but keep getting outbid at the last second!

LittleBairn Sun 18-Nov-12 11:32:29

The only glow I have is from the sheen of sweat after a vomitting session...


tasmaniandevilchaser Sun 18-Nov-12 14:41:26

Sea salt hope tomorrow's appt goes well

And hope everyone's MS fades soon and you really are glowing

Lolly so sorry to hear about your friend sad

Rhienne Sun 18-Nov-12 17:42:35

Ah yes, that oh so elusive pregnancy glow. I put it in the same box as "morning sickness" and the suspicious silence on so many uncomfortable/painful pregnancy symptoms. Part of the conspiracy. smile

Had a fab day yesterday, DH was wonderful. He took out DS all afternoon, came home and cooked dinner for me and my friend. Put DS to bed, cleaned up the kitchen and then sat reading his mag while we continued our "Pride and Prejudice" marathon !!!

But I think I overdid it - stayed up too late, then spent all day today out shopping. Sigh. Still waiting for my energy to reappear!

I've been in maternity trousers for a couple of weeks. Still fit the jeans I bought in the months just post DS' arrival, but not my smaller sized ones any more. Splurged on a maternity dress for the festive season on Zulily, hope it is ok in reality!

[I blame any overuse of exclamation points in this post on pregnancy vehemence: my version of pregnancy rage.]

GeordieCherry Sun 18-Nov-12 17:59:27

There you are! Hello!

Had our scan & we're a wee bit ahead of what we'd thought: 14+1 grin

Sorry for everyone still feeling pukey. Mine is coming & going. My appetite is definitely improving though, hurray!

I'm out if my skinny jeans for sure & only managing two pairs of 'normal' jeans with long top & bump band
Best discovery: Bay Trading jeggings. Not a shop or an item of clothing I've embraced before but Oooh yeah!

Have been doing some window shopping for nursery furniture in Ikea but not going to get anything til after all clear from 20 week scan

roastpotatoes Sun 18-Nov-12 22:39:42

I'm into my maternity trousers as well - once I put them on for one day there was no going back, way to comfy! And I think they make my bump look like more of a bump rather than fat tummy, which is always good!

I'm starting to actually enjoy being pregnant now... Never would have imagined during the first few weeks that I would hear myself say that. The main thing I don't like still is the tiredness. Did a two hour drive this evening and really struggled - had to have the radio on loud and concentrate really hard.

Definitely no glow around here....

Good luck with the scan sea and the Drs appointment - hope you start to feel better soon.

LittleBairn Mon 19-Nov-12 09:15:52

Its my second scan today, feeling much more relaxed just hope it's not in another awkward position.


Picklep Mon 19-Nov-12 12:00:40

Good luck seasalt and littleb for your scans!

Feeling crappish today, back in bed. Bad day for excessive mucus production and gagging!! Feel like I'm getting a cold. Quick question ; would you be pissed off if someone came to visit you with a stinking cold? I don't quite trust my judgement at moment because of hormones and I do seem to be getting more protective over bump, it's almost primal. I nearly hit a man for delivering a package at my front door with cigarette hanging out of his mouth!

Boodstress Mon 19-Nov-12 12:07:20

Hi all,
Where can I find the list as I wasn't on the last time I checked but I had updated and reposted? I am well into maternity clothes. DC3 and my bump is very significant. My tummy muscles were so shot that itjust popped straight out.My SPD has kicked in already, so early this time. Any amount of walking or lifting and I am so sore. I am wearing a belt and doing my exercises but with such a long road ahead and two small DSs to run after I am a bit apprehensive. Does any one else have this condition?
Still unsure about finding out the sex. I am worried I would feel any disspointment which I know you don't feel when that gorgeous baby is put in your arms. Anyway, just checking in, 16 + 3

Picklep Mon 19-Nov-12 13:28:37

boodstress there is a separate thread for stats, it's called May 2013 - Stats thread or similar.

Craftyjessicat Mon 19-Nov-12 14:56:38

Hi everyone, I'm new and just thought I'd pop in. I'm due 18th May and am starting to feel its all real and exciting as I have a little bump now. Though I'm sure to everyone else it just looks like I'm a bit fat!

I've had a really crappy month picking up pretty much every bug going- sickness and upset tummy then an awful sore throat and cold where I felt I was choking all the time then an horrendous cough which in the last week has turned into sinusitis! Thankfully the Dr has given be some beasty painkillers so I can actually get on with the day without crying!

Haven't managed to buy any maternity clothes yet though I think time is up on my skinny jeans. Think I am just gong to resort to leggings and dp's jumpers as he is 6'6" giant they are nice and baggy on me being only 5'4"! Yes we are a hilarious looking couple!

Wirrawoo Mon 19-Nov-12 17:04:21

Hi crafty and welcome! brew big jumpers are the way to go. Am living in them at the mo.
Good luck for those having their scans. Have been having butterfly-like feelings today. Is that baby dancing around in there? Feels like those flutters you get when you first fall in love.
Our downstairs neighbour has just given us LOADS of their old baby stuff: bath, steriliser, unused activity mat, loads of clothes. So grateful, we are going to need all the hand-me-downs we can find! She talked about something called an Angel Blanket or something that detects if the baby stops breathing and beeps, so you aren't constantly checking them every 5 mins. Any thoughts?

Wirrawoo Mon 19-Nov-12 17:05:26

Forgot to say am 16+2 I think.

frankienoodles Mon 19-Nov-12 18:25:21

Helllooo new thread!

Marking my place as I haven't posted much at all!

definitely not glowing... skin seems to be simultaneously dry and a few breakouts at the same time, which is ... new (deep breath)

Hi crafty my scan last week informs me that we are due date buddies! generally been feeling fine despite slight dizziness that midwife said was normal. How are you?

seasalt interesting what you say re. having a chat about weight loss with dr... im wondering if i should enquire about mine since i've lost nearly a stone !(no reason since i'm eating ok) im still in the normal bmi range not under so i should be fine and ive been weighed at appts and scan without them mentioning so its a mystery. I hope your chat and scan goes well so sorry
that youve been so poorly.

14+2 xxx

wilderumpus Mon 19-Nov-12 18:53:40

hey all

so lovely to hear about all the flutterings and maternity clothes smile My baby has stopped giving me any nudges or flutters for the past week, am not impressed, I miss them!

Had to go to EPU today as i had some bad bleeding this morning. completely terrified, along with the spotting I have generally have I thought that was it for us. However, baby is completely fine, very chilled and it turns out my placenta is covering my cervix a little bit and this will cause bleeding if I overdo it. So now I have to chill out and stop being a maniac whenever I feel I have a bit of energy! yay! Am delighted to finally hear that the baby really is ok and any spotting is nothing at all to do with mc or 'one of those things' but actually has a cause.

i had to warn my nct friends that I was preggers as I am seeing them this weekend and really, I am at a stage like some of you say where some days I look wonderfully pg and my bump looks bump-like, and others is kind of goes pfffft and I just look fat! I had to say I am fat... and pg smile

wilderumpus Mon 19-Nov-12 18:53:53

oh 14+6

10storeylovesong Mon 19-Nov-12 19:19:48

wirra that's the monitor we're getting - think its called Angelcare or similar. A couple of my friends have it and really recommend it.

I'm so jealous of all those feeling flutters - I've felt nothing yet. Also feeling very fed up as sickness has ramped up again over last couple of days - surely it must be close to finishing?!

berri Mon 19-Nov-12 19:24:09

Hi crafty! Hi everyone....

Looks like we're kind of in the same boat wilde with the placenta problems and being told to take it easy. I'm just thanking my lucky stars that I'm not working at the moment and embracing the brew and [biscuits]

berri Mon 19-Nov-12 19:24:35

biscuit plural! grin

Ellypoo Mon 19-Nov-12 19:50:42

Hi all, am feeling absolutely pants today - cold that has been lurking has finally come out and im so achey with a stinking headache and sore throat. Had to come home early from work. Think I'll try to go to the docs tomorrow, i just want to check if there's anything we can do to make sure baby is ok. Or should I call MW? Does anyone know?

LittleBairn Mon 19-Nov-12 20:07:40

Talking about monitors the Anglecare one is excellent my sister and bosses have both used it and raved about it.
Another one I would reccomed particuarly if your using something like an Amby nest would be a snuzza baby mointor it clips onto the babies nappy and I think may have a quicker alert to an unresponsive baby.

Here they are here www.babymonitorsdirect.co.uk/categories/35/Browse-Monitors-By-Feature/Nappy-Baby-Movement-Monitors/

LittleBairn Mon 19-Nov-12 20:12:41

wilde so glad to hear that the baby is fine, hope you manage to rest.

Our second scan wasn't much better than our first, baby looking healthy but still being awkward this time flexing its head to far back, so the Nucal couldn't be done so will just have the blood test now.
Apparently I have a huge bladder. blush


berri Mon 19-Nov-12 20:44:18

Elly that sounds crap - maybe give your MW a call, she might be able to get you a docs appt earlier rather than later, or she might say to pop in and see her tomorrow instead of the doc?

We had the Angelcare monitor too with DS, gave it to a friend but we'll definitely be repurchasing. I know there's nothing can be done if the worst happens but in terms of not disturbing the baby by poking it every two minutes to check it's breathing (v hard not to do this!) and when it has a cold etc, we found it invaluable.

frankie and seasalt I've lost quite a bit of weight too, and didn't really have any MS. I put it down to the lack of alcohol at first but I would have thought at nearly 17 weeks I would have started to gain by now, especially now I have a bump. I'd be interested too SeaSalt to hear whether your doc says anything about it. I've had loads of doc visits and it's never been mentioned so I presume it's fine and it'll go on later probably all at once

BMI is 20 so still ok I guess.

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 19-Nov-12 21:26:53

Hiya ladies,
Just checking in. Re weight loss-I know it's different, but I didn't gain an ounce in my second trimester in my last pregnancy. I was being seen ever 2 weeks because of my diabetes so it was on my mind all te time. Especially a I seemed to be growing so much! I was always told 'not a problem'. Admittedly I gained loads in first trimester (and have this time too). I look proper pudgy!
Wirra-I wasn't happy with my mum for buying the angel are monitor for us at first. I loved it in the end! Just piece if mind. Make sure you have it on a hard surface like wood (we used a big bit of cardboard) under mattress. It went off once in a year! She had rolled right into the corner of the cotbed. We soon shot up the stairs. Never moved so fast.
Noticed the kids at school whispering and looking at my bump/fat today. Not sure what I feel about them knowing yet.
Anyone else worried about time off ill at the moment? I'm ill again. Full on cold and voice is going. I just feel like I've had a lot of time off recently and then there are all the appts too (like i said-every 2 weeks). Don't feel like it go down well tomorrow morning.
Also. Tmi. But the coughing has aggregated my stress incontinence. I've had it since last birth and was having physio during the summer. But I think since getting pregnant/cold season it's awful again. Imagine being in front of a class of 16 yr olds, coughing and then pissing yourself. I've had 2 bloody tenna lady on today sad. I'm really thinking of pushing for a section this time. And then the op to sort this mess out. So embarrassing.
Ladies. Do your pelvic floor.

LittleBairn Mon 19-Nov-12 21:27:47

elly when I was feeling bad last week I would make a home made lemon sip by putting 1 table spoon of honey into a mug, squeez a fresh lemon into it and add hot water. You could take some paracetamol with it too of you really needed it.

For chesty coughs Tumuric is meant to be good for clearing the chest.

I also read that Boots do their own versions of cough bottles and lemon sips that are safe for pregnant woman just ask the pharmacist.

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 19-Nov-12 21:28:26


LittleBairn Mon 19-Nov-12 21:31:36

maybeA that reminds me of the time my nephews angle monitor went off ( my sister and her DF were living with my parents and I was visiting ) my sister, my mum and myself immediately jumped out of bed and ran toward the cot my brother in law was woken by the commotion and was all a bit WTF at us all in the room. grin Nephew was fine.

berri Tue 20-Nov-12 03:59:59

Maybe how annoying for you sad
Can anything be done at the moment, or would you have to wait until after the baby arrives?

wilderumpus Tue 20-Nov-12 09:29:55

aw maybe that sucks.

berri do you have a low-lying placenta too? I am taking any spotting as a warning sign to chill out from now on, then I think it should be ok. not going to do any exercise for now apart from chilled out walking. Tho I really fancy just a little swim... Am a bit wary though as i read that you can bleed really badly from it! eek. I would rather have this tho than think I am doomed to mc every time I spot though!

little glad your scan was good and congrats on your big bladder grin

SeaSalt1 Tue 20-Nov-12 12:58:31

Hi there, got to be quick but wanted to thank everyone for the best wishes re: scan, it went well, thank goodness, and it was wonderful to see our little bean wriggling around, they even waved at us! It was brilliant smile

Berri, you asked what the doc said about my weight loss. He was reassuring but I'm not sure it's comparable to your situation as mine is definitely down to MS and I'm only 13+2 with no bump yet. Maybe you should specifically ask the midwife about it? Or the doctor? It sounds like something that should be flagged and discussed, if only to give you peace of mind.

Got to dash but just thought I'd update quickly.

roastpotatoes Tue 20-Nov-12 13:19:57

Great news Sea - congratulations!

I'm feeling really rubbishy today. I had a meeting yesterday with my boss and she wanted to talk to me about my maternity leave dates. She asked when I would be coming back and before I could answer, she said 'September?'. Arghhh that's only 4 months! I mumbled something about a bit longer and so she wrote down October. I was thinking that I would have at least until Christmas off and then review the situation. I know that I can do that by rights but it was clear from the meeting that this would be seen as a bit of a weakness/lack of commitment to my job. She also made some suggestions of work that I could crack on with whilst on leave ('good time to write a book or a few papers').... Ever since the meeting I've just been feeling so down. You hear of people having to deal with this kind of thing but I wasn't ready for it. Having a baby is such an exciting thing and I really want to give it my all but now I am worried that I am going to spend my whole leave feeling guilty about work. DH is away at the moment so I don't even have someone to remind me of the bigger picture sad

tasmaniandevilchaser Tue 20-Nov-12 13:53:27

Hi everyone

Roast, I'm totally shocked at your boss! You're legally entitled to a year off and you don't have to tell them when you're coming back until I think 8 wks before. You don't have to make a decision now, you can think about what suits you and get back to her. As for telling you what you should be doing during your mat leave.... shock. Are you in academia? My DH is, I know it's pretty competitive but still.

Sea salt , great news on scan!

Maybe, I feel your pain on the pelvic floor front, I'm doing my exercises now! Thanks for the reminder.

Little I'd also recommend hot lemon and honey, plus fresh ginger. I'm drinking loads. Managed to get a cold just as I was recovering from pneumonia, and that drink has been great.

Berri and Wilde, hope you are taking it easy

And hi to crafty

Under docs orders to start getting out and about, so went to a cafe for lunch today and I feel a lot better for it. It's been a bit crazy staying in bed/on sofa for 3 wks, I was starting to go a bit mad with too much time to fret.

Hope everyone else is ok

MooLL Tue 20-Nov-12 13:59:22

Roast I am so sorry you went through that meeting - its so tough as there are your legal rights (which Im afraid I dont know) but also the guilt of 'being a good team member' .. I know with DD1 I plannd to work up to almost due date (haha suprise when she arrived a month early!) and also come back dead on 6 months .. Im part of the management team here and therefore didnt eant to be seen as not being part of that team. However when it came down to it noone thanked me for it and all I did was regret leaving my DD so early. This time therefore I am taking a year off and you know what ... they can think what they like ... there is the bigger picture and you need to do what is right for you ... if you come back early and are unhappy about it surely that is worse for them that having someone back a couple of months later engergised and happy to be returning. Same for writing the book comment. With DD is actually made me anxious not to check in most days with work - but that was personal choice ... had I been asked to do it, again I dont think they would have got a very good product out of me

wilderumpus Tue 20-Nov-12 14:24:10

roast are in academia? grrr at your boss, am gutted for you. My boss said that I would have to put my baby in care to finish my PhD shock then remembered himself and congratulated me! Bah, you won't have the brain to write papers or a book while looking after a little baby - does your boss have kids, I assume not or surely they would know this?! My brain didn't come back until about 9months when I felt guilty and sloped back to my desk -wish I hadn't--.

Have your time off; this only happens to you with your baby once in your life, work will always be there and they can't sack you. When you are heavily pg and aching, nesting away and eating choc on mat leave you won't give a stuff about what they think - and as for when your baby is here... grin I remember putting away my papers when about 36 weeks with DS and the feeling of utter relief when I let my brain finally ooze into dosy, happy land!

sea hurrah for your scan smile

glad you out and about tas and feel a bit better. am indeed not doing much, just working!

roastpotatoes Tue 20-Nov-12 16:41:57

Yup academia - I guess it was always going to be tough.

But thanks for the encouragement - it reminds me that I need to do what's right for me (us!) rather than just trying to keep everyone happy.

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 20-Nov-12 20:06:15

Roast-what an utterly shocking and stupid thing for your boss to say! You'd think someone intelligent (I assume she is in the job she's in) woul know how much trouble you could cause with comments like that.
I went back at 9 months too. And while it was fine, I'm adamant I'm taking a year this time.
Berri-yes. They'll have to wait until after the birth. Tbh, when I'm not coughing or sneezing I have no issue at all. But yesterday the cough was pretty extreme and my pelvic floor just couldn't cope. Today-much less coughing and my nicer experience! But now I've nearly lost my voice. Looks like may be a day off tomorrow. My DD is 3 tomorrow! This time 3 years ago I was having regular contractions that no one took seriously (I was induced and the midwives kept saying that it was just prostin pains). They sent my DH home and I cried through the night. A dr finally saw my discomfort and got my gas and air at about 3am and asked a midwife to check me. I was (I think) 4cm dilated. Her face was priceless as she'd spent all night basically calling me a wimp. She then quickly called DH and I was whisked off to delivery.
Ahhhh, the memories smile

Tas-I feel like a wuss complaining of my cold when you've gone through all you have!

Don't swim wirra! I say relax. You'll miss that in a few months wink.

tasmaniandevilchaser Tue 20-Nov-12 20:32:09

maybe we're all allowed a moan! And I've spent the day relaxing on the sofa and having a nice lunch out and you've been in the classroom, I'm not feeling hard done by today! smile

roast a friend of mine worked really hard when she was pg with her first, worked right up to her due date. Then while she was on mat leave got totally shafted and basically they offered her a secretarial/admin post on her return (she's something high up in accounting). The take home message is look after yourself and your family.

Kittykatmacbill Wed 21-Nov-12 08:41:28

roast how ridiculous is your boss?!??? I am really sorry that is totally terrible. When my dh worked in research, one of the men was explaining that he was going on paternity leave for the fortnight, the confused response from their prof was 'good god man! What on earth are you going to do with that time? your golf can't be that bad!'.

I finally told work, they were super nice. Until the risk assessment, which seems to mean I can't work on any of my favourite projects!

I been a bit exhausted this week, with an endless and increasingly disgusting cold. It's been really exhausting, and in a moment of fraughtness I totally convinced myself that my uterus hasn't got any larger for the last 6 days, everything has remained the same tiredness, breathlessness, huge boobs etc. really tempted to get a doctors appointment but I think it is just me being neurotic and tired....

beaver33 Wed 21-Nov-12 10:42:38

Hi all, what a lovely new thread.

roast was literally shock at your post. I think your reaction tells you everything you need to know, quite frankly. Don't be bullied into doing 'the right thing' for the company. It has to be the right thing for you, and for your baby and family. In years to come, you won't regret spending more time with your child - but you will regret spending less time with him/her as a baby and more time at work.

As for working while you're on mat leave - be firm. You absolutely cannot commit to anything because you just don't know how you'll feel at the time. It's important for you and your stress levels that you deal with this whole situation head on and quickly - tell them you want to take XX months off, that the plan, however vague, is to return in XX and that you can't possibly commit to doing anything while off at the moment.

It's your right. Exercise it.

I know all this is easier said than done, and everyone's workplace is different with unique pressures and obligations. But this is such an important moment in your life and you need to feel relaxed, comfortable and under as little pressure as possible. Do yourself a favour and push everyone else's opinions and expectations to one side.

I'll be rooting for you! smile

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Wed 21-Nov-12 14:15:47

I'm starting a daily pelvic floor reminder, clench those muscles ladies!

roast another person here shocked by your boss angry.

I haven't checked in for a few days, I've been busy sorting things out for DDs birthday, she's 1 today.

Has anyone else had a previous fast labour? I'm a bit worried tbh. With DD my waters broke at 6am, went to hospital and they checked me out and decided I was showing no signs of labour. As I was under 37 weeks they wanted me to stay in for obs. DH left at 5pm so my mum (who had DS) could come for evening visiting. She left at 9 and I was having slight twinges. I was having strong contractions by 9.45, MW checked and I was 5cm. Rang DH who had to wait for mum to look after DS and was rushed off to delivery. DH arrived at 11, DD born at 11.15!

Hello everyone

I had a midwife appt today and got to hear the heartbeat and heard the baby moving around in there.I also got my results back from the blood test and my risk is 1:1600.

I mentioned to the midwife about wanting a c section.She booked me a consultant appointment but said she very much doubts I will be able to have s c section sad

roast Awful about your boss.I hope you aren't too worried about it and just do what's best for you.

I can't decide whether to leave my job sooner rather than later need to check my maternity pay rights first.I am self employed but work within someone's salon and she is just being a bit bitchy and I'm getting sick of it.

MooLL Wed 21-Nov-12 18:47:49

beautician sorry to be nosy (or if you have mentioned it before) but what is your reason for wanting a c(don't answer if you don't want to) - just surprised by her reaction as certainly the Nice guidelines would make it seem a lot more grey/judgemental and even if for psychological reasons they will now entertain it although ask you to go through therapy to try and overcome fears

I have also asked for c and seeing my consultant in 2 weeks but I think a combo of previous cat 1 emergency c, pre-eclampsia means she almost seemed relieved I didn't want a vbac .. Now to see if the consultant is so accommodating!

babygeek Wed 21-Nov-12 19:01:49

roast, I hope you are able to help educate your boss on maternity rights! When are you returning? When you're damn well ready! smile
I really hope it all works out for you and there is not too much stress.
Thanks for the reminder Seven, I am practicing as I type hehe.
kittykat that's a bummer about not being able to work on your favourite projects, hope you feel better from the cold soon.
Beautician yay for hearing the baby's heartbeat! I hope I get to hear mine at my appt with the midwife next week.
I am finally feeling like the ms nausea is almost gone and I generally have more energy although still doesn't take much to wear me out. I am loving my growing bump! I keep having to pat it grin

lollypopsicle Wed 21-Nov-12 19:48:18

beaut it must be really dependent on where you live as to whether you can get an elective c section. I know people who have had no problem. Very annoying that you get treated differently across the country.
roast sorry your boss is a nob. I think I've been really lucky in that respect. Was on a temp contract til Easter which was fine by me then just before my scan my boss offered me a permanent post. I then fessed up i was pg and turned it down. This week, he offered me a perm contract anyway. I warned him that I may take the full year and may only want to come back 2 days a week ( I do 3 currently) and he was ok with that too! Feeling pretty lucky that things have worked out so well and I get full maternity pay as well.

In other news, there's chickenpox going round in our school right now which caused my first panicked call to the midwife. Going to get a blood test done at docs to check immunity. May book the flu jab too. Not sure yet but as I seem to get every cold going round at the moment it might be wise to do so.


Lolly Sorry to hear about the chicken pox I know another mum on this thread had to look after her son who had it whilst we were all in the very early stages and she wasn't too concerned so I'm sure all will be fine.I have had the flu jab as I seem to suffer every Christmas.

Babygeek Hope you get to hear the heartbeat to.My midwife did inform me before she listened that she may not be able to find it this early and that if she couldn't no further action would be required as its perfectly normal not to hear it.She found it after a good 5 mins.

Mooll Don't mind you asking at all.I wanted a c section as ds1 was a forceps delivery and I was in agony afterwards and back in hospital a week later.Ds2 was a normal delivery but I went into shock and we both had an infection plus cord around his neck.I also labour really long and ds2 was a longer labour than ds1.So all in all I've just been really put off and I'm scared.

MaybeAMayBaby Wed 21-Nov-12 20:53:08

Happy birthday to your DD, sea. Mine is 3 today. Been thinking of the whole experience three years ago. What the hell am I doing?

I am also thinking of returning part time. My DH isn't convinced yet, but I can tell he is considering it (he has recently started earning a lot more). Tbh, it's not just being at home with the kids. With both of us working full time and my DH working most evenings too, I just can't keep on top of things. It's not a healthy way to live.
But I'm really worried the school won't go for it. They have for others in the past-lots in fact. But in my department, they'd probably have to hire someone else and I think they'll say no. Does anyone know, that if they've said 'yes' before, can they say 'no' or have they set a precedent? I'm anxious about this and we havent even agreed on it!

Beaut-I'm also leaning towards a C section. After pushing for 3 hours last time I'm convinced it exasperated another serious health condition (don't want to say what as it's quite rare and might out me). I haven't had this 'confirmed' by specialist-but they wouldn't anyway as they gave the green light for it to go ahead, despite literature I've researched saying there is a risk. I also know have shot pelvic floor.
But the. I read some of the stories of recovering from a section on MN and worry if this is actually more trouble. Anyone got a nice story about a section with minimal recovery? Pretty please.

MooLL Wed 21-Nov-12 21:04:36

beautician I am shocked that a midwife would say that to you given your history!!!! Wait to see what the consultant says and remember if they say no, you can referred to another

MooLL Wed 21-Nov-12 21:12:56

maybe I do ... But I would say it isn't tge 'easy' option as some see it as you are recovering from major surgery and certainly extends the healing time vs many natural births .. However I was up and about day 2 and onto just paracetomol for pain by day 3. By week 2 I was going on some pretty long walks ... Of course I dindnt have a dc already with dd1 and think this time it will be different as will have to keep my active 3 year old at bay for a couple of weeks ... But I have to say I am happy to have another one and had no problems with my first

lollypopsicle Wed 21-Nov-12 21:18:45

maybe as I understand it, they are required to consider you request for flexible working hrs (ie part time) but they are not obliged to agree and can cite specific circumstances regardless of what was agreed for others.
However, if your request is reasonable and there are others that have been able to go pt previously then you have a good case. I would advice consulting your union when you plan to negotiate your return to work and seek their advice before agreeing anything too. Perhaps contact them now to talk through your rights/ options as it may help you worry less for now?

lollypopsicle Wed 21-Nov-12 21:20:21

Advise not advice. Call myself a teacher, eh? blush

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Wed 21-Nov-12 21:34:23

maybe pushing for 3 hours, my entire labour with DD lasted 3 hours!

roastpotatoes Thu 22-Nov-12 08:41:35

Thanks everyone for your support - I'm feeling much better about it all a few days later - realised I'm just going to have to be assertive!

By the way, those of you who have done this all before, what do you think is the best amount of time to take off before the due date? I know it ultimately depends on when the baby comes but I am wondering if 2 weeks before EDD is about right?

RTchoke Thu 22-Nov-12 08:55:03

Hi Everyone

SeaSalt - I'm glad your scan went well and that the raw chicken did no harm. I once got salmonella from undercooked chicken but it hit within a couple of hours. Is your morning sickness receding at all? I have to admit to being jealous of your weight loss. My sickness led to carb loading and I have put on a WHOLE STONE already. So depressing.

LittleBairn - your baby clearly agrees with you that a nuchal measurement is unnecessary! Is your DH relaxed about having bloods only?

Roast - that is shocking about your boss. I second, third and fourth what others have said about not feeling you have to do the right thing about work. I fell into that trap and returned to work gullying after adD2 and I do regret missing out on lots of special times with her. This time o have no choice but to return full time after 6 months, if I don't we won't be able to pay the mortgage, but if I had a choice I'd want a better home/work balance.

Beaut - I think if you keep pushing and pushing you will get a c section. It's a sad reality that on the NHS the pudgier people get the treatment they want but the standard first response is "no" because that will put many off and save time and money. I'm conflicted about whether to ask for a c section. Two huge babies and one instrumental delivery have left my pelvic floor in a less than optimum state so on those grounds I'd prefer a c section, but I hate the idea of 3 nights in hospital and post op pain.

I'm 14+3 and although the nausea is improving it's yet to disappear. The tiredness is still there too (that may not be being helped by the 41 hour work weeks combined with two insomniac daughters). When will the glow begin?

RTchoke Thu 22-Nov-12 08:58:15

So many typos! I did NOT mean "pudgier" people get better NHS treatment. I am sure I typed "pushier". Must preview!

milkandribena Thu 22-Nov-12 11:55:58

How are we all this fine day?

Maybe - they can make decisions individually but I second the talk to your union and just send out feelers about how they might respond.

Wish I had the option of going part-time. But with it wouldn't work and I work sort of flexi-hours now anyway. Plus have to think it though work/money wise like a single parent.

See glad the scan went good smile

lolly your boss sounds lovely.

roast WHAT?!? Some people...

I have been rushed off my feet this week - so many meetings and there isn't enough time in the day. Have nearly forgotten about 3 already and only remembered in the nick of time - Is this the start of preg-brain ? I'm already very forgetful.

16+2 today

10storeylovesong Thu 22-Nov-12 14:27:08

Urgh, I'm not so great today. My ms seems to be getting worse and worse and I got sent home from work at 1100 after spending the whole morning being sick. I've also had a banging headache the last two days which stopped me sleeping last night that probably hasn't helped. I tried getting into the doctors today but no appointments. Just feel so down at the minute.

berri Thu 22-Nov-12 14:28:14

RT grin

I just thought I'd come and cheer everyone up with the following revelations...

Am 17+0 today and:

- spotty skin has gone
- terrible constipation blush has gone
- little waves of nausea have gone
- there is a definite bump appearing
- lovely fluttery popping baby feelings every day

So hang in there everyone with constipation and ms, you are approaching a nice corner to turn!

jenpenod Thu 22-Nov-12 14:49:52

10 - are you sure you don't have hyperemesis? You sound so ill, I don't know how you're managing to get to work at all. It was a relief in a way to be at the hospital being treated for hyperemesis because they put you straight on a drip and fill you up with fluids. It was such a relief to know my body was getting hydrated without the stress of having to force liquid down and inevitably throw it back up. I'm through the worst if it (although now have whooping cough) but I found the mental side of being constantly sick much harder than the physical side. It's no wonder you're feeling down. Any chance you could stay home for a few days from work? At least that would relieve you from the pressure to get dressed, commute etc. Really hope it passes for you soon...

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Thu 22-Nov-12 17:24:08

Had a bit of a scare today. Walked past the mirrored wardrobe in the buff and caught a side profile view. I HAS 3 TUMMIES NOW! shock. The low lying wobbly fat one that's always been there. The above waist displaced innards one which appeared a few weeks ago. And in between them both a new firm baby one. If I lie on my back I'll look like a 3 humped camel.

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Thu 22-Nov-12 17:26:37

Oops 16+2

10storeylovesong Thu 22-Nov-12 17:51:56

jen I'm trying to get into docs but they've been fully booked. It is the mental side that's more difficult. Work have told me if I feel the same tomorrow to not bother going in, but I'd rather make it official through the docs first.

12ylnon Thu 22-Nov-12 18:36:21

Hello ladies, can i join!?
I'm jumping from the June group to this one- had my scan today and was 6 days further on than we predicted. Huge shock! It feels like we've lost a week (although i'm secretly quite pleased seeing as my bump is mahoosive!). 13+4 today and feeling well and truly pregnant.

jenpenod Thu 22-Nov-12 18:45:28

10 - totally understand, I felt the same about wanting the doctor's sign off. Was so worried that people would think I was skiving off work which seems ridiculous now when I think back to how sick I was. Just make sure the doctors listen to you. I found one doctor SO dismissive about the mental said of things. I was trying to tell her how depressed I felt and all she could say was 'of course you're depressed, you're being sick 10 times a day'. Not particularly helpful. After that I just turned to DH and friends for more support. Had been pushing friends away because I felt so useless and sick but then realised that they don't mind and are happy to come to my house and sit with me even if I'm not in the mood for much chat. It made the world of difference and definitely pulled me out of my dark moods...that and the realisation that it was temporary and would go away at some point before giving birth! Maybe after having a difficult pregnancy, we'll have lovely babies that sleep 23 hours a day smile

Fingers crossed for your recovery and until then, try and do as little as possible.

berri Thu 22-Nov-12 19:24:09

Hi 12 welcome & congratulations!

Jen & 10 I'm sorry you're still feeling so crappy sad I really hope you get some help from the doc Jen & fingers crossed this nasty phase will be over very soon do you can enjoy your pregnancy.

jenpenod Thu 22-Nov-12 19:54:17

Thanks berri smile

As soon as I'm better, I've big plans to eat in ALL of my favourite restaurants/takeaways. I'll make up for the weight loss in the first trimester!!

Have a good evening all...

wilderumpus Fri 23-Nov-12 09:28:45

hey all

10 chuck. can you have a phone appt with a dr, if they are worried you might be called in to see a duty dr or sent to hospt with a referral. That's what I did with my bleeding on monday, didn't have to physically see the doc... If you have headaches they are a sign of dehydration. are you keeping fluids down today? Have you told the receptionist that you cannot stop being sick, am sure they will put you thru to a dr straight away if so? hope you get better soon thanks

glad you are blooming berri smile

maybe my friend tried to get part time after having her first but they said no and hired someone else full time! luckily she had saved her maternity pay and could just pay it back. other's had part time positions ion her school. It just seemed mean tbh as she had the best results in her dept etc. weird. they were a bit shite tho.

sorry beaut I don't know anything about c section vs natural births really, but hope you get the birth you want!

am really achy on my lower back and womabge area today, think is weird growing pains?! skin really spotty one day and then the next all gone... proper little bump. Have told my supervisor at work but not heard back. Am very anxious about that info just hanging about the ether!


10storeylovesong Fri 23-Nov-12 10:34:44

Yeah I was in tears to receptionist saying I couldn't keep anything down and that I'd been sent home from work but she said that was the best she could do. Keeping down some fluids but probably not enough - that's what I thought about the headaches. Just tried to take dog round the block for a bit of fresh air and ended up having to link dh as felt dizzy and legs like jelly - I'm seeing a nurse at 12.10 as they said they can prescribe anti-sickness meds if need be. Thanks for all your help x

beaver33 Fri 23-Nov-12 10:39:53

10 and jen so sorry it's still so crap for you both. 10 am glad you're trying to see the doc. If nothing else, it'll make you feel better just for having had the chance to talk to a professional about it. Just make sure you're very honest about how you're feeling and don't underplay it. You really shouldn't have to feel this awful.

When I went at around 11 weeks, feeling horrific as I couldn't keep any food or liquid down, they were great and really understanding and I made sure they knew I couldn't carry on the way I was. They didn't sign me off, sadly, but they did give me anti-nausea pills which were MIRACULOUS. I ended up only taking them reactively because I didn't want to be reliant, but they really helped settle things.

Good luck, and let us know how you get on.

So who knows what happens next? I have a midwife appointment at 17 weeks (about 10 days time) and anomoly scan at 22 weeks in Jan, but should I be going to antenatal classes yet? It's kind of a weird time, this, because things are happening but I feel totally clueless. Happy, but ignorant.

Anyone have any ideas what should be going on?

Hi ladies. I've been loitering, but had scan and dates have been bumped forward a bit, so now I'm officially due in may.

Good luck today 10 I'm sorry you're having to fight to get anti-sickness meds. And I hope they prescribe you some today.

i think I must have had a very sympathetic doctor (personal experience perhaps) who prescribed mine. They are great. I can actually function now, except today because I forgot to take them last night, I dread to think how horrible I'd feel without them, at least I know it'll be okay tomorrow


milkandribena Fri 23-Nov-12 11:29:55

hello 12
10 sounds shit hopefully the doctors can do something

beaver 'fraid not I'm completely in the dark about everything But then I usually am in general.

jen hope you feel better soon.

It's non-man turn to come down this weekend. Have so much to do this weekend it is unbelievable.
But I have to do something with my bathroom - so may be dragging him to B&Q need to get tiles and paint and stuff. 'Tis very exciting - I do love a bit of DIY.

milkandribena Fri 23-Nov-12 11:32:34

Hello frustrated :D

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Fri 23-Nov-12 11:54:44

Can't believe I've already reached the big scan point (done at 17/18 weeks here). Have it on Monday so will find out the sex. Very excited.

Baby is being naughty and tormenting mother already. All this week I've felt loads of movement, particularly in the evenings. Yesterday nothing. Could I sleep? I was awake all night worried sick, desperate for any little flicker. Nothing. Had to get up for a 10.30 appointment (about an hour after I finally dozed off). As soon as I get out of bed exhausted, KICK! 5 more months of those kind of shenanigans will not go down well.


How exciting panda have to wait until 20wks here. Oh well, only 7 weeks to go.

MooLL Fri 23-Nov-12 12:06:30

beaver if I can remember clearly from last time you do go into a period of not much happening ... I did NCT classes but don't think they started until about week 30 ... So yes think it's midwife or consultant visit week 16 the scan around week 20 then a couple more midwife appointments ... Fingers crossed with first trimester symptoms slowly going, bumps growing and the elusive glow about to hit us (please)... I think we can all sit back and enjoy things at last ( hmm fingers crossed!)

LittleBairn Fri 23-Nov-12 12:21:43

Just catching up it's been a long few days MS, acid vomitting and long commutes so glad I have a few days off!

RT DH isn't frilled to only have bloods done (which I haven't yet arranged...) but accepts that's the only choice now our 2nd scan was done at 13+6 so we had run out of time. That said he's much more relaxed. NOw we've seen a healthy baby, twice.

10 hope your Dr can prescribe something to help. If my Drs surgery is being difficult over appointments I wait till out of hours and call NHS24 to get an emergency appointment.

panda I'm a bit jealous of all the movements your feeling!

ProcrastinatingPanda Fri 23-Nov-12 12:51:26

Has anyone felt any flutters yet?

ProcrastinatingPanda Fri 23-Nov-12 12:52:27

Oh never mind, I've just read pandas post grin so exciting! I'm 14 wks just now and can't wait to feel the baby move.

10storeylovesong Fri 23-Nov-12 13:25:42

Well I'm dehydrated so they've finally given me tablets (cyclizine) and signed me off work for a week, told me to take it easy and suck ice cubes which can't do at work! Feel better that they're taking it seriously so I've rang in work guilt free and am now lay on the couch with crappy daytime tv.

little have you been given any meds as your sickness sounds terrible?

Ellypoo Fri 23-Nov-12 13:36:38

Glad they have sorted you out 10, hope it helps you to feel better very soon.

I've had mw appointment today, heard hb - yay!! I've been feeling flutters for a couple of weeks, it's lovely! Can't wait for regular proper movements!!

Still got this rubbish cold, it's doing my head in now, but at least my temp has come down, so that's a worry off.

Hope your scan goes well flaming!

Welcome to the joiners!!


ProcrastinatingPanda Fri 23-Nov-12 13:42:27

That's really nice about the flutters elly, I've thought I've felt flutters but wasn't sure if it was possible at 14 weeks, it's definitely not wind though, what do you think? This is my 3rd pregnancy; dc2.

That's really crap that some here are still feeling sick, I hope you all feel better soon. I had terrible sickness in 1st trimester but it's now gone and has been replaced with anemia and pelvic girdle pain - you win some, you lose some wink

MaybeAMayBaby Fri 23-Nov-12 14:02:40

Yay! 10, that must be such a relief. Do the meds kick in straight away?

Welcome to the two ladies from the June thread.

Wild-that's what I'm worried about. I have a responsibility (TLR) and I think at the very least they'll make me give it up. Thing is, I think in another few years I'd want to go back full time and go for HOD. It's what I've been working towards and got shortisted only last term-but so glad I didn't by it now! I really can't see them saying yes-our department is in a bit of a mess and is also a huge core subject. I'm not sure what to do. Did your friend not to back at all? Part time jobs are so hard to come by. I'd love to be able to find something completely different for a few years that meant more time at home and less work at home. Just can't think of anything.

Had results from Downs screening this morning. Looks good-so another milestone to tick off.
I noticed that the baby has moved! Sounds daft, but I ways know where to find him/her with the Doppler. But today I found the hb right over the other side! And I'm sure it's slowly getting higher. I reckon at 20 weeks last time I was pretty obviously pregnant. Pretty big bump. Quite exciting to think that in a few weeks at Xmas we'll all be like that. Still need to book that private scan...all talk of the next scan has reminded me.

Lost 2kg in about a week! That's a bit strange isn't it? I won't worry yet after putting on half a stone (and the rest) already.


FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Fri 23-Nov-12 14:02:44

With my daughter I didn't feel anything until 20 weeks. Then a few flutters made me look at my bump and I jumped out of my skin on seeing a massive kick. After that she only really moved if prodded. Pretty much how it went for the next 19 years.

This time I started feeling lots of movement from around 13+5. The occasional flutter but mostly rolls, like a grapefruit is being rolled around inside my bump. I wasn't entirely sure it was the baby but it got stronger and stronger over the next couple of weeks. This week I'm certain it really is the baby. I can feel it now even if I'm distracted (although it's still strongest if I'm still and quiet with my hands on my tummy).


LittleBairn Fri 23-Nov-12 14:23:11

10 no meds yet I've got an appointment for Monday morning.
The MS althought still awful and frequent isn't too bad as I seem to get a major bout but then recover quickly so within the hour I can start keeping down water.

The Acid reflux and vomitting is far worse but I know the only solution is to put me onto stronger Zantac and Rantidine and possibily other presciption Ulcer meds which I want to avoid at all costs because I know how hard it is to wean your ulcer off them allowing your body to self regulate.
I took my first over the counter Zantac last night since then No reflux!
I know it will greatly improve once MS goes and I can eat properly again.

Mentally it's not so bad I expected this to happen, my mum had server Hypermisser all through her pregnancy with me and my sister had it for the first 5 months with her first.
I have lost a stone but I have a fair amount of padding so I can afford to loose some.

LittleBairn Fri 23-Nov-12 14:30:33

For those that have had 4D/3D scans how easy is it to spot the sex without being told? DH is now quite keen to have one but we don't want to know the sex.

Wirrawoo Fri 23-Nov-12 15:04:22

Wow, so many posts to catch up on!
10 glad they've given you something, poor you! Hope you're enjoying some quality ice cube and telly time.

beaver we signed up to NCT after um-ing and ah-ind for a while about it. The classes don't start until about late March I think. There was a different lot of classes in our area too run by local midwives which looked great but they were all on days that we usually work. A shame as am feeling a bit apprehensive about our local NCT. In the cafes around here we see so many nightmare high maintenance mums that I get a bit freaked out by the whole thing. I've been in the local cafe and overheard the NCT tea morning all moaning about their partners and it just seemed like really not my (and my very involved boyfriend's) sort of scene. In the end though we decided to go for it and are just hoping that there might be a few people there we can relate to. Sorry, realise that I sound horribly judgemental. Its just what other colleagues in my Field who live locally have also said that they experienced with various mothers groups in the area. Haven't really conveyed it right... Please nobody be offended! thanks

The whole maternity leave thing is a real concern for us as we are both self-employed and in the absence of anything other than the small state maternity allowance I'm definitely going to have to start doing some work again from about 6 weeks afterwards unless my man gets some fab lucrative work in. Such a shame as I really want 3 months off at least and then ease back into it gradually, but we just can't afford it. Got a call from our mortgage guy yesterday basically saying we need a bigger deposit or some actual
PAYE work. Partner is going to start looking today, but it does mean we might be in our little 1 bed place longer than we hoped. Am worried about trying to get a mortgage once I have a significantly lower income next year sad feeling a bit down about it all. Usually am the optimistic one but am starting to feel like I just want to nest and look after the baby and don't want to have to start working (in a very tiring field of work) so soon after they are born. Ah well. Cup of tea solves everything. Think it's the hormones amping up the emotions...

Have been getting into the baby books. Just read a really interesting one called 'French Children Don't Throw Food'. Funny!

Ellypoo Fri 23-Nov-12 17:02:40

Haha wirra - my friends didn't go for the NCT classes for exactly the same reasons!! It's not my cup of tea, I will probably go to the mw run ones locally, although because of having an ELCS they probably would only be any good for meeting other people.

I hope you manage to work things out wirra, at least you can still claim MA and earn self employed income (I think), so could you maybe do alternate days with DP so that at least one of you will be looking after the baby?

MooLL Fri 23-Nov-12 17:23:06

I think all NCT experiences are different ... I was hoping for a lovely network of ladies ... However only bonded with one ... Then again 3 years on we are still close friends ... And to me one very good friend is better than a lot that you arent very bothered about

MooLL Fri 23-Nov-12 17:24:37

As for parenting/ birth skills the only thing I took away is to be flexible and accep whatever happens ... Which given my experience was sage advise!!

wilderumpus Fri 23-Nov-12 17:28:49

wirra me and my nct friends are a right load of happily married drunks smile So maybe it just depends who you meet; I hope you meet some nice friends whichever group you go to smile

maternity leave is such a fecker. I never really had to get into it as i am a FT student but I do feel for working mumz, our society doesn't look out for us.

wirra there is a silver lining... so many of my friends who had bought had to move house when their babies turned one! so maybe good to hang on to where you are and move when you realise what kind of house you really need when you have toddler. Sorry you are worried about having to work so early after the birth tho, I hope you can work something out.

speaking of which, maybe, no my friend didn't go back to teaching - there weren't any jobs! Mardy news I know, but if you are HoD material you'll likely have better luck; she was only just out of her NQT year when she got pg I think... Does seem tricky though and she was shafted for sure sad. My other teacher friends managed to have mat leave until a couple of weeks before the summer, then had the summer hols paid and went back FT after - could you do something like that?

glad you have meds 10 and hope you feel better soon little

panda if you think you have had flutters why not go with it? you know your body! smile I think I have but nothing definite and few and far between. can't wait for regular feelings!


RTchoke Fri 23-Nov-12 18:48:49

OOh the old NCT "should we/shouldn't we?" debate.

We did do NCT antenatal classes before DC1. We did them specifically because I wanted to know some local women who would be on maternity leave at the same time as me. Our local NCT does some courses where every class is for Mums and Dads and some where it is mostly Mums only. We chose the Mums and Dads classes as DH wanted to be involved and I wanted to know women with DHs who were involved. The group I was with were not my soul mates but I did meet up with them regularly throughout maternity leave and it was great to have people going through exactly what I was who would want a local coffee after another sleepless night. I am only friends with one of them now.

For me I found my real motherhood friends in an NCT drop-in baby group. It happened to be populated by a group of women who I clicked with. Six years later and four of those women are some of my closest friends: we regularly holiday together, go out together, hang out with the kids after school. This weekend our DHs have gone away together!

I guess it is all luck of the draw.

pinkandstripey Fri 23-Nov-12 19:11:56

Good evening all smile

I haven't updated in weeks (forgot my MN password!!), have changed my due date back a week (from 2nd to 8th may). Had 2 scans, cos what we though was 12 weeks was dated as 10+1, then the revised 12 week scan ended up being 13+0. Had a little cry at 13 week scan blush

All is well anyway, DS results were fine, but not felt any movement yet sad soooooo looking forward to that!! Bought some mat jeans from next online, which are very very comfy for days when I'm feeling a bit fat larger. Mostly still in normal clothes tho.

Anyway, is lovey to catch up with how everyone is faring, am logged in now, so will try to stay up to date smile

beaver33 Fri 23-Nov-12 19:15:20

wirra I had similar fears about the whole NCT thing for much the same reason (again, no offence to anyone who's had a great experience, but reviews have def been mixed where I am). Will dig further...

Also, on mortgages and money. Deep sigh. I'm in a similar position as I earn considerably more than DH, and my mat leave allowance is just shite. Like, it's statutory, I think - 90 per cent of my salary for 6 weeks and then SMP.

We're in London, haven't been able to buy, but have to now because once I'm on SMP we won't be able to afford our rent. So will be lying about my pregnancy to try to get a mortgage, we'll need a 95 per cent one as we don't have money for a big deposit, and will have to downsize massively to be able to afford a roof.

It's horrible. And yet we're two hard-working professionals in our early 30s who've always worked, have good solid jobs with decent pay and prospects....and here we are. Irony is if we were living anywhere else we'd get a house and mortgage no bother.

But if we moved from London we wouldn't have our jobs....

Ach, sod it. I'm done with having a real life anyway. Gonna sit me at home with my baby and lentil-munch. smile

LittleBairn Fri 23-Nov-12 19:23:04

pink welcome back. smile

NCT I was keen to join the NCT but there seems to be no local groups or much activity in my area possibily because we are close to Glasgow so most go through the Glasgow group but I really can't be bothered to do that. As a nanny I'm pretty used to rocking up to baby groups and making friends.

I don't really feel the need to do a prenatal class, I'm not particularly keen to do them NHS either as I feel fairly well informed. I am looking into Hypnobirthing but no sure if to go with a CD course or actual classes.

LittleBairn Fri 23-Nov-12 19:30:14

beaver <hug> London house prices are shocking, hence why in the 6 years I lived there I was always a live in nanny as there was no way I was paying sky high rent for a bedsit with a shared bathroom.
A lot of my mum bosses had to go back early purely due to financial reasons, if they left London they would either have to give up work or commute very long distances.

We could have stayed in London DH had very lucrative job offers but I knew that even on a great salary it can still be very hard living in London. I do regret it sometimes London can be a fantastic place for kids, loads of fantastic parks amd free museums.

Wirrawoo Fri 23-Nov-12 22:55:44

beaver our house situations sound so similar! We are in almost exactly the same position. Grr to London prices. Am going to see if we can sort it without needing to mention pregnancy but it's not looking good. We are 2 working professionals in our early 30's, and again if we moved out of London it'd probably be fine, but both of us need to be in London for our work. Ah well, it'll all work out for us all in the end. Let's think of it as one of those stories we get to tell when our kids are grown up smile

Wirrawoo Sat 24-Nov-12 09:47:47

wilde hopefully my NCT class will be more like yours smile

We are in a difficult position with moving as well.We are renting and saving for our deposit.However, I am self employed and I think we are going to have to stay in private rented for a long time now sad
With a baby,Wedding and the way house prices are rising I just don't think we will ever be able to get on the property ladder.

milkandribena Sat 24-Nov-12 12:14:28

jealous of you all who have felt flutters and movement - nothing sad
10 hope the meds worky
Elly Glad the scan was good
little hope you continue to feel better
welcome back pink

oh beaver london prices - no fun. Non-man lives in London as is now tied into working there for a couple of years. He owns but once you move out you can't move back though he is desperate to. I know lots of people who commute to London from here - it's only an hour away. A house prices show it but it is still less than London. I just can't believe DC is going to be a southern. smile

ohh NCT non-man wouldn't be able to come to any which wouldn't seem right. Part of me wants to for the getting to know other people but I HATE anything organised fun like or people who get really into those sort of things or those 'professional mothers' types. Which round me there are a lot of. So I don't know.

Right off to B&Q - I am slowly doing my place up which is great fun. But time consuming.

GeordieCherry Sat 24-Nov-12 13:51:44

15 weeks today smile
Continuing to sort out the horror that is the spare room so we can turn it into a lovely nursery. It's taking a while...

berri Sat 24-Nov-12 14:30:28

Just another one to add about NCT experiences - I absolutely loved our whole group, we're all still very close despite moving around the country (and other countries!).

The group became probably my closest friends, and we all looked after each other's kids when subsequent siblings arrived etc, as the kids all felt so comfortable in each other's company.

I think it's bonkers to write off a particular organisation because you might meet someone you don't like - the people who join NCT are no more/less likely to be a bunch of twats than people you'll meet on a NHS course. It's all pot luck, like RTchoke said.

I also met a huge group of friends through a baby massage course which I started when DS was around 6 weeks old. We all just clicked which was strange. I also did a baby yoga course but didn't click with anyone! It's all random.

LittleBairn Sat 24-Nov-12 20:18:53

I'm watching the One Born every minute catch up crying at the titles never mind the content.

Kittykatmacbill Sat 24-Nov-12 21:20:02

Gosh couple of days without 3G and loads to catch up on. I was visiting my bf from school who live in amazing ruralness, which was lovely but my normally very cute 15mth god-daughter was terrifyingly grizelly with teething eeeek.

Haven't got anything to add to the london house price debate. Sounds horrible... Always avoided living in London for that reason and kinda enjoy the shock of London friends when they see housing in the of the uk! (hmmm not helpful - sorry)

Thought you might like this on nct - the nct group which my mother joined to have me (32ish years ago) still meet! I think its only six of the original 10, but they still are the most amazing support for each other. The people that my mother was most excited about telling was the nct group! I am still really close friends with one of the other 'nct babies'!

We have decided to nct, not for that reason although obviously if I can get 10% of the experience that my mother had that would be wonderful, but for the boring logistical reason that my dh can't make the nhs class time! grin

Definely needing the maternity trousers, have not felt movement yet, but am wincing everytime I pick up anything off the floor... blush

14 + 6

lollypopsicle Sat 24-Nov-12 22:53:23

Well, I can report that Cobra alcohol free lager does not taste of lager. Boooo. Becks Blue is still the best of a terrible bunch

My bump seems to have grown somewhat overnight. I think I look rather pregnant now, not just fat...I hope!

lollypopsicle Sat 24-Nov-12 22:53:53


LittleBairn Sun 25-Nov-12 10:26:05

I'm now thinking of joining the NCT classes but not for the prenatal classes but for the baby groups after, just realised the Glasgow group isn't that far from me by train.
If you have a membership how much extra do you pay for courses and baby classes?
Will definitely be doing a few baby groups, it gives me focus and structure for the week.

LittleBairn Sun 25-Nov-12 10:27:01

I'm 14+5 feel like its going quite quickly now we will all have babies in no time. grin

rachywhite83 Sun 25-Nov-12 15:46:25

Yay ! 16 weeks today ! gringringrin

Picklep Sun 25-Nov-12 20:10:57

Just checking in ladies, all good here. Have got mw appt this week with doppler, those that have had it, does mw do anything else at this appt? My main concern is more bloods?

Only just recovered from watching One Born Every Minute - the follow up, I watched it on Thursday!

Bunnychan Sun 25-Nov-12 20:53:34

Hi ladies! Hope all is well! I'm posting coz I feel like I need to own up to how badly I have eaten these last four days! I've had loads of take aways and junky snacks! I'm feeling guilty and thought that if I posted about it, it would motivate me to eat better! So, ladies, hand on heart! I'm going to eat better this week!
14+3 x

Pickle I just had Doppler and she felt my tummy.We discussed blood results and various other things and no bloods were taken.She said my next lot of bloods will be 28 week appt to check iron levels.

I feel really uncomfortable today.Constipation again angry and a lil bit of heartburn.Just feeling really heavy,irritable,fat and ugly sad

When does the glow start


MaybeAMayBaby Sun 25-Nov-12 21:01:26

Haha, Bunny. Me too. I've had 3 takeaways this week. I've been so knackered. Gotta sort that out.

I didn't do a single group or class with DD1. But I had 2 very good friends on maternity at the same time. They've both moved away, so now your talk about nct has got me thinking. I'm just not too good at that first initial turning up thing. Argh. What do you do? Is it a 'meeting' or do you go to classes? I'm confused.
Saw myself today in a video of my DD's birthday party. I look proper pregnant!

MaybeAMayBaby Sun 25-Nov-12 21:02:22


I read that next week baby can hear things! Wow! I remember hitting that milestone with DD. seems amazingly early.

cuppateaandagingersnap Sun 25-Nov-12 22:07:29

Knackered today, was out last night for the first time in ages, was very very bad a teensy bit naughty, not only had half a glass a few sips of champagne, had a canapé with pâté on it, a Roquefort cheese tarte and my steak was bloody, I have promised myself i will be so so good from now on, but it felt good to be out enjoying myself!

LittleBairn Sun 25-Nov-12 22:30:17

I know it's way too early but I though I felt a movement today. I was resting in the armchair and suddenly felt something that felt like a wave over my lower abdomen it was very odd.


scooby26 Mon 26-Nov-12 00:36:52

Awake and annoyed.com!

glad to hear all going well for everyone and ditto and the eating badly- whoops! Defo stress related here ;-)

Had an offer on our house ~ this is the third time we have tried to sell it. Unfortunately I was asked whether ny chnge of circs likely and my honest self coughed being pregnant- we Ate now struggling to get. Mortgage with our lender ( giving excuses we now don't believe) and are tied into a fixed rate so can't afford to leave them. Sooo frustrated.

Moral is- if u are buying a house and are Not asked- do NOT volunteer the info! Probably would get sorted eventully but due to tight timescales I think ours will be off and we will have to take house of market now until our fixed rate expires. Aargh ... Poooey.

In addition we are potty training for last week with mixed success so frustrated all round.

Can u all send me some good news to read please! Thanks muchly!

scooby26 Mon 26-Nov-12 00:38:42

Oh and 14w 3d here and defo feeling baby squirm about- but it is no2 ;-)

hopeful92 Mon 26-Nov-12 09:38:47

My revised EDD is now 28th May, I got put back a week at the scan so I am now 13+7 not 14+7 but its all good as it gives me an extra week of not being induced (its meant to hurt a lot more when induced). Still suffering bad morning all day sickness, and lost a stone and a half through this. Not a bad thing though as my BMI was 35.2 at booking and now its 31.9.

LittleBairn Mon 26-Nov-12 09:42:28

hopeful my BMI was/is the same it was 35 now around 31 due to loosing weight partly also to do with getting my height wrong. That said I put little faith by BMI and have refused to meet with the consultant or discuss it any further with the midwives.

Rhienne Mon 26-Nov-12 12:57:55

Things have been a bit up and down over here. Supposed to have been working all weekend at a major meeting for my organisation, but got gastro Friday night and spent the weekend flaked out. Still off today. Feel a bit like I missed the party! And slightly stuffed on the flexitime front, as I'd let myself get behind, knowing I'd make up loads of hours this weekend. Hmmm. See an uncomfortable discussion with HR coming up.

On the upside, LO decided to spend all Friday night being very energetic. So I know he/she's feeling fine!

TerracottaPie Mon 26-Nov-12 13:15:04

Hi all smile

Not been around for what seems like ages as I've been ill. Going to read up on all your goings on in this shiny new thread now.

Hope you're all doing ok.


LittleSpade Mon 26-Nov-12 14:12:14

Hello :-)

Just had my 16 week mw appointment and all seems well - she had a listen in and we heard the HB and she said she also heard it kick grin

Was otherwise very non-eventful - we just chatted through my blood test results, screening test results and how i was generally feeling and she tested my urine and blood presure. Next appointment not till 25 weeks at the end of Jan - seems ages away!

I have started NCT pregnancy yoga and although i've only done one session so far i really enjoyed and found it a really good way to bond with the baby (which i had been finding a little hard/intermittant after two previous mc) and think about going through labour. She gave some really good tips on breathing techniques and active positions for labour too.

I'm enjoying my growing bump and waiting to feel movements.

I hope all those still struggling with sickness or other illness feel better soon!

16+1 today

Picklep Mon 26-Nov-12 16:32:39

Not had a good day today at all - I'm very worried. What do you do if you hear a bad story about your midwife??? I have heard of a couple that felt they were so let down by my midwife that they have decided that they don't want a midwife for their new pregnancy. Sadly, they lost their last baby and I don't know what the circumstances were but they feel very let down by/angry towards my midwife. I have been panicking all day because my initial reaction of her was not very good. I feel that she is quite dismissive and very fake-nice, as in whenever I try and make conversation with her, she does a lot of fake smiles but doesn't really engage with me. She was also very dismissive of DH. She seems like quite a bitter person - not very happy.

What I want to do is change to another midwife who I have heard great things about - it would involve putting in writing that I want this change (I don't need to explain why) the problem is that there are three midwives for our area, and they each have responsibility for their allotted health/doctor centre but they cover for each other should one be away. So because I am having a home birth, what if when I go into labour they send the one I 'sacked' because my chosen one was on leave?? how stressful would that be! and for an already bitter person, she might take it out on me in my fragile state! It's making me feel like I'd be safer in hospital but that's not the birth I wanted and it seems silly to change my birth plan for fear of upsetting a midwife and any fallout. I just HATE animosity and confrontation, makes me very nervous.

I want to ask more about the situation with this couple and what happened with the midwife but it's obviously very painful and I don't know them that well. We heard about the midwife thing before I knew they were talking about our midwife.

DH thinks that it was a case of feeling let down and looking for someone to blame in what must have been a dreadfully upsetting situation rather than a case of negligence on her part. My rational brain tends to agree but my emotional/hormonal/mum side is telling me to stick to my instincts and change mw.

Sorry for long message - just need some second opinions.

Ellypoo Mon 26-Nov-12 16:33:33

Yay to heartbeats & starting to feel movements! I can't wait to start feeling regular movements & kicks!!

Got a really painful coccyx (sp?), so it really hurts to stay sitting down (especially at work) for any length of time, but then my PGP flairs up if I spend too much time standing/walking - not a great situation!

Am seeing MW again tomorrow to hear heartbeat, so will try to remember to mention it then. Also starting a little bit with acid, so will see if I can get some stuff from MW tomorrow.

Still feeling coldy and knackered - had really painful ears and throat this time, and I just can't seem to shake it off. I had to cancel my flu jab again today (that was my 4th try for it) because I'm still not feeling well and they wouldn't have been able to do it. Hopefully will be feeling better very soon so that I can finally have it!


Ellypoo Mon 26-Nov-12 16:43:48

Cross post, sorry pickle, oh what a dilemma.

That's really really hard. Do you know anything about how they lost their baby? It could be something that wasn't down to the MW but they just need someone to blame maybe (as your DH said). Do you know anyone closer to them who might be able to fill you in on the details?

If you really feel uncomfortable with having her as your MW, then maybe it would be best to write and ask if you can see a different one for your appointments in the future? With a homebirth, I believe that 2 MW's will be present, so even if she was one of the ones on call, then at least it wouldn't just be her. If that sets your mind at rest and makes you happier, then that's what you should do.

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 26-Nov-12 17:05:26

Hi all

Hope those with pg sickness are feeling a bit better

I'm in the same boat wrt planning to move, good advice scooby to not volunteer anything about the bump. It's a bit tricky as DH will be getting a new job in March, so the timing is all off. We also had a look round the local school as dd is starting reception in sept and it's brilliant, so moving seems like a bit of a pain all round.

Pickle sorry to hear about your dilemma, is there any way you could ask mutual friends about what happened to your poor friends? Not sure I agree with your dh, it could be negligence on the mid wife's part. It's v hard to know. Are your friends making an official complaint? You don't have to make a decision now though, you can sleep on it.

I remember someone asking about pgp, yes I got it with dd, not much fun. It was worst lying down and then trying to move or get up. or when walking. It seems to be better this time, maybe because I'm a lot fitter and stronger due to lots of boot camp after I had dd. has anyone found physio any use?

I'm feeling a bit more back to normal after the pneumonia, but now dd has tonsillitis so we are a house of ill health ATM! Normally we're both very healthy, it's very boring being ill.

Berri how are you? Still resting ?

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Mon 26-Nov-12 17:26:46

pickle how sad that they lost their baby, even if DH is right is it worth taking that risk? As elly said 2 MWs would be present for a homebirth, if it puts your mind at rest a bit more could you afford to hire a doula?

frustrated what's your revised EDD?

We didnt have any classes with either of our 2 and won't this time. I had a brilliant pregnancy book which I read cover to cover with DS, plus loads of pregnancy mags. If you're well read up on labour and newborn care you'll be fine without.

little I had a hypnobirthing CD I used with DD. I found it really relaxing listening to it during pregnancy but it didnt help when I was in labour, I think I was just in too much pain (very low pain tolerance level!) to remember much of it. Having said that I had a very fast labour, if it lasted a good few hours and the pain build-up was slower it probably would have been more helpful.

I've been feeling flutters for a couple of weeks now, though I was 19 weeks before I felt anything in my first pregnancy. I'm also looking a bit pregnant now, though I'm still in my normal jeans.


cuppateaandagingersnap Mon 26-Nov-12 17:32:10

That's really hard pickle, can you get any more details from anyone who knows the couple a little better? I would find it really difficult to trust her with your home birth knowing that. If you change midwife could you resolve yourself to just having to go into the hospital if she does happen to be covering at that time? It would be disappointing but sounds like she would spoil your experience anyway.

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 26-Nov-12 18:17:43

Meant to say seven thanks for the pelvic floor reminders, now when I see your posts I start the clenching! Any coughing or sneezing means I have to stand still and cross my legs, it's not dignified!

I did NCT classes with dd's pg, I'm still friends with half of them 4 yrs later. I think it's luck of the draw. I also met lots of people through the wider NCT borough group that I'm still good friends with. they've been a godsend through the last year looking after me through some horrible times. I'm also good friends with a load of women I met at a HV run post natal group when dd was tiny.

The local nhs classes were useless and not the place to meet people. I still laugh when I think of the bf class. The midwife was completely out of her depth, she kept stopping, holding up a knitted boob and a dolly and saying "this is the baby.........this is the breast" and then randomly changing the subject. Honestly it was like something out of a comedy show.

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Mon 26-Nov-12 18:57:26

Had my scan today. They moved the EDD again. (Not going again, every time I see someone they move it closer wink). Everything is fine, the only observation was that baby has very long legs, which isn't surprising as Dad is 6ft2. Oh, and we're expecting a boy.

Now 17+5

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 26-Nov-12 19:14:29

Ahhhh, Pickle. (I want to say what a pickle). I think you need to speak to someone in charge of the midwives. A bit like PALs maybe? I don't know if they cover community midwives. But, I think you need to actually tell them why you are wanting to change. It doesn't have to have any weight as such-but if they know it's because you 'don't want her' maybe they can try and make it more possible for that not to happen.
I wasn't a fan of my midwife last time. Luckily I didn't have much to do with her as I was seen at hospital two weekly. But she was very dismissive and made it clear she didn't want anything to do with me (and my condition) and even told me incorrect info.
I was over the moon when she was on leave when I needed the home visit after giving birth. I had lots of locum midwives from
Other areas and some were better than others. Te final one spent ages helpin me getting DD to latch despite all the other help I'd had. And she was so unjudgmental too.
I was horrified when I realise it was the same community midwife this time. However, she seemed so much nicer than I remember when I met her a few weeks back. Time will tell. In fact next week will tell!

Gosh. A lot of rambling there. Sorry.

MaybeAMayBaby Mon 26-Nov-12 19:15:05

Congrats Flaming!

berri Mon 26-Nov-12 19:52:53

Lovely news flamin!

Hi tas how are you? I'm feeling ok actually, getting used to this 'doing nothing' lark - perhaps a bit too easily grin. Must try not to order DH around too much, he's being great though. Another scan next week to look at the tear, but I've had no bleeding for over 2 weeks so hopefully it's healing up.

pickle I feel for you - I have a slightly similar situation in that I'm going to change doctors (we have no midwives here in usa, v odd to get used to!) and although I haven't heard anything bad about my one, there have been a few situations which have put me off her slightly, and another lady came very highly recommended so I've decided to move to her.

I totally know what you mean about the animosity and confrontation - I need to call at some point this week to say I'm leaving and want my notes transferred, and I know they are going to make a fuss and ask me why etc.

The only thing I can think to say is that you've got to trust my gut instinct with something as important as this, and at the end of the day I'm probably never going to see these people again so if I piss some of them off, so be it.
Like Elly said, if you do end up seeing her at your home birth, it's likely she won't be on her own with you anyway. You could always make up some rubbish about wanting to switch as your friend had had a previous great home birth with the other midwife or something like that?

Hi sevenelves my revised edd is 31st may. So I think I'm the furthest behind. Must go update the stats.

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Mon 26-Nov-12 20:07:12

frustrated you're not last, you're the same EDD as me, I'll be expecting mine a month early though!

tas glad I remind you of pelvic floor exercises grin

berri great news that you've had no more bleeding, hope its good news at the next scan.

And congrats on your boy flamin!

I can't get my head round being 13+3, I jumped from 12+3 to 13 in the space of 5 minutes.
Why do you think you'll be a month early?

LittleBairn Mon 26-Nov-12 20:55:19

picklep I can see your DH point of view but at the same time I would change her based solely on that she was very dismissive of you, in labour tats not the type of person you would want around when in a vulnerable state.

seven tjhanks think I'll buy the CD even if only to relax althought I can see the downside to the method if you don't have a build up. My Mils labours were 90 mins, 60 mins and 45mins!

I had a lovely but very tiring day visiting family. I'm actually now debating if I should have my sister as well as a doula as birth support.
My sister is desperate for another baby but decided against it due to her MS she fully admits her new puppy (already has a dog and cat) is because she is so broody since I announced my pregnacy. She even rocks the puppy to sleep when it needs a nap! At least I'll have an on tap babysitter if needed. grin

Wirrawoo Tue 27-Nov-12 00:05:44

littlespade cool to hear about the yoga class. Just ordered a prenatal yoga DVD as the classes around here are all full!

pickle really sorry to hear about your MW situation. My only advice would be that you should be able to feel comfortable with the people taking care of you. People change midwives all the time, you are totally within your rights to do it. I can totally understand why you might not be comfortable with someone you feel isn't genuine in their manner, regardless of other people's experience. I'm sure there's a much lovelier experience on its way for you from now on xx

berri glad you're feeling better smile

Have got midwife app tomorrow too. Am 17+3 now so am hoping to hear the heartbeat again too. Going shopping with my best mate afterwards which is helping me feel less nervous. Got some FAB maternity clothes from a website that sent me a mint chocolate and loads of discount vouchers with the package. I'm easily won over! Seriously though the clothes were cool and half price (woo hoo!). Looking online seems to be the way to go smile

MaybeAMayBaby Tue 27-Nov-12 07:12:39

Oooo, Wirra-name of site/link please. I've definitely popped and all my old maternity stuff is summer clothes. Not really the weather for shorts and t-shirts.
Anyone's bump grow overnight? Think the dozy kids at school might 'get it' this week.

Wirrawoo Tue 27-Nov-12 09:41:48

It's www.babeswithbabies.com at first glance I thought it was all too expensive, but then the perfect dress that I needed for work came up half price so I got it, arrived in 2 days with the discount voucher and choc ( which has another discount voucher on the wrapper), then got emailed a 20% discount voucher which I used yesterday on 2 more things that were half price anyway. Feeling shopping savvy smile another site was www.livelovematernity.com I think.

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Tue 27-Nov-12 10:23:10

Pelvic floor reminder ladies!

wirra thanks for the links, the second one looks fab. Maternity clothes from loads of retailers in one place, genius!

frustrated DS was born at 35+5, DD 35+6. I've given up hope of going full-term! Thankfully they were both fine and didnt even need SCBU.

berri 45 minutes, crikey, that's how long it takes us to drive to the hospital!

wilderumpus Tue 27-Nov-12 14:31:30

thanks for the reminder seven smile

wirra look forward to perusing the link! am in h and m and new look maternity clothes atm... LOVE overbump leggings, so comfy but a bit chilly... boo. Does anyone have any super lovely overbump jeans they could recommend?

glad you doing better berri. I am still on bedrest as I walked DS to the childminder and back yesterday (is about 4 miles a day) in howling gales (but still managed to do it in an ambly chilled-out way!) and still started spotting from it last night. So DH has taken over today.

AFM had my 16 week appt today where I was told am not 16 weeks today as I thought but actually 15+6. am totally confused about how I worked it out wrong and annoyed because I was very excited about being 16 weeks! will hold off celebrations until tomorrow lol. Heard the heartbeat which was utterly delicious and DH recorded it! silly but yummy. for some reason hearing it right there in your tum is so much more definite than a scan. I might sound mad but I think because the bubs is on a screen it still seems a bit surreal, but with a dopplar whoomph - is no denying that is come from you! and they kicked while listening too. marvellous.

Anyway. am reading often but not posting as much as work has gone into overdrive. lovely to hear all your news and am nosy about housemoving issues - am also moving house early next year and dreading it - tho if my placenta doesn't shift I won't be doing any of it! weird. Will be still renting tho, won't buy for some years yet (DH self employed, first time buyers bla bla)

be well all brew biscuit

Wow Wirra Those clothes are gorgeous but even discounted very expensive.I don't want to spend much as this is my 3rd and more than likely my last.

Wilde I got some topshop jeans which are awful and digging me already angry
So I've just ordered some from next which I lived in last time Ill let you know what they are like.

Just had a call from my childminder and she said my eldest is hitting one of her other mindees and the child is do distressed he doesn't want to go to her anymore.Im hoping I can sort it out otherwise I am going to have to give up work Tuesdays and Thursdays sad


Picklep Tue 27-Nov-12 14:58:38

thank you so much you lovely mummies! I feel much better today and thank god for this place. I can't find out anymore about the couple but I did find out one more thing that they lost their baby midway through their pregnancy so I'm unsure as to how the fault could lie with the mw. A terrible terrible situation for any parent but I felt slightly better that it wasn't during delivery.

I met her today and she was much better (it was like she knew!) in terms of her social skills and bedside manner and as always she was very professional, answered all my questions, delivered 4 homebirths last week, on call for 3 this week. I did have a trainee midwife in the meeting today and she was nice, she had trouble with finding the heartbeat...a terrifying few minutes...my mw stepped in and found it immediately and talked me through all I was hearing. I feel a lot better about her today and Ellypoo you were right about two midwives being there, I didn't know that, so I feel even better that there will be two of them.

I was so lovely to hear baby's heart beating away in there and I heard the placenta working away which was a little strange.

The only thing that did come up was that I am O neg blood group. MW tested DH today to check his blood, but he was pretty confident that he is 0 positive - if confirmed I will need an injection of Rhogam (sp?) at 28 weeks in case the baby is positive as well. Has anyone got the same situation?

Berri good luck with switching Docs, like you say we shouldn't worry what they will think, we'll never see them again. We also have a right to be happy and comfortable with our care givers.

wirra love the link you posted - thank you!

Maybe hope your mw does a turn around for you next week.

ps- Isn't it nerve wracking when everyone keeps saying 'are you feeling lots of movement?' when you're not yet. The next time someone asks me I am going to feign a massive panic attack, with tears, hysterics, the works! That'll teach 'em.

16 +3

Picklep Tue 27-Nov-12 15:00:31

pps - maternity jeans I ordered some from Seraphine and they are amazing. I love them so much I've ordered another pair in a different style. They fit really nicely everywhere. www.seraphine.com

mwncigirl Tue 27-Nov-12 17:41:13

Hi everyone, just a quick though, no one seems to be mentioning food any more. Have our cravings stopped?!

No movement for me yet, 16+1. Got MW tomorrow so panicking about heart beat. Silly really coz my tummy is growing by the momentgrin

jenpenod Tue 27-Nov-12 17:43:30

Picklep - I know I'm O Negative but didn't realise that it impacted pregnancy in any way. Must make sure to ask the midwife about it next week but if you find out anything else in the meantime, please let me know!

beautician have you asked the cm what she is doing to try and stop the situation occurring? Hitting is usually a response to a trigger, (and a form of communication when all other forms have broken down), I would be questioning the CMs level of supervision.

Picklep Tue 27-Nov-12 18:00:44

jenpod I had no idea there would be any issue with pregnancy and different blood groups either. It used to mean problems but now this injection we will get means no issues. The concern is that if your blood mixed with babys, your body would see it as a foreign body and release antibodies which could harm the baby. But from what I understand its rare that your blood would mix anyway, unless you had an accident or during labour. But having the injection eliminates any risk if that were to happen.

Our blood unlike rhesus positive lacks the antigen-D, so when our body comes into contact with it, it doesn't recognise it so reacts to get rid with the antibodies. The injection as I understand basically tells our body not to react to antigen-D.

Let me know if you find out anymore too. We are quite rare, only 1 in 5 people are rhesus neg!

mwnc I can't get enough of Christmas sandwichs turkey,stuffing and they have to have a bit of cranberry sauce in as well.Still have a sweet tooth so I've started excercising again.

Frustrated DP is speaking to him tonight. I am seeing his school teacher tomorrow.I can control his behaviour at home but unfortunately not at school and at the childminders. I think a lot of it is change ie the baby, Christmas and his birthday (Christmas eve).

My Next jeans are so comfy wow definitely Going to be getting all my jeans from there.Usually hate there jeans but these are lovely.They are the slim leg ones and have an adjustable band so pretty sure will last me.I just ordered my regular size grin

scooby26 Tue 27-Nov-12 18:42:45

Picklep- thanks for reminder about seraphine- just bought some bootcut jeans for 19 pounds! Only had size 14 left but that'll do me ;-)

wilderumpus Tue 27-Nov-12 18:53:11

sorry to hear about your DS beaut sad I would also be concerned about the cm's level of attention/awareness of my child if my DS was hitting there tbh; I hope he is ok.

next jeans hey? I might go there then! my new look ones look lovely and fit wonderfully but if I am sitting all day they really dig in to my stomach - how they might fit anyone near-term I just do not know.

will look up seraphine too, thanks pickle!

mwnc my cravings have settled so I guess I just don't swing as badly (or excitedly!) as in the early days smile I love skips crisps, mini chedders, tom kha gai soup (adore this soup, DH is sick to death of me wanting to have thai takeaway), and am also really into xmas sarnies! Never ever eat them in normal life, in fact I actively dislike them! Oh and roast dinner food - anything with roasties, loads of veg and tonnes of gravy. OMG. Otherwise am pretty normal and generally eating quite well. Not put on any weight yet which is odd but expect to pile it on now am virtually sitting all day long.

pickle my ma has this issue and had to be induced with my brother because of it. This was in the really olde days tho when it seems they didn't know much about it and was quite frightening for her; is so brill you won't have the complications she did.

jenpenod Tue 27-Nov-12 19:26:01

pickle the thought of our bodies attacking the babies is a bit scary but from what you've said, it sounds like modern medicine has it all under control! thanks for the info - at least i'm prepped in advance of my first (community) midwife appointment next week. will let you know if i found out anything else from her....

Picklep Tue 27-Nov-12 20:26:00

jenpen just read that Rhesus neg people tend to have large heads and have difficulty finding hats apparently! Really made me laugh as it's true in my case. :-)

scooby you're welcome - enjoy your new bargainous jeans!

wilde thank god! Your poor mum though. Didn't they have it hard in the old days??? I wonder if they'll think that about us in years to come?? Wonder what advancements there will be!

wilderumpus Tue 27-Nov-12 20:44:07

pickle I have no idea. She was quite shy so maybe she never went to appts or something but she always told the story like it was a suprise emergency issue and he had to be got out asap. Was only with my bro - his blood type didn't work with hers - but me and my sis were fine.

lol at your big heads smile Mine is teeny, I can wear my 2 year old's hat hmm

Old days indeed, is marvellous they know about you and jenand can deal with it easily smile.

tasmaniandevilchaser Tue 27-Nov-12 21:04:11

He he about large heads and rhesus neg - I'm rhesus neg and have the tiniest head! I also wore a random hat I found around the house before I realised my DM had bought it for DD! If I remember rightly you have the 1st anti d injection (in your bum, v undignified!) at 26 wks. I didn't realise only 1 in 5 had rhesus neg blood.

tasmaniandevilchaser Tue 27-Nov-12 21:07:31

Oh and cravings - balsamic vinegar and lime pickle. My stomach is feeling the acidity!

Picklep Tue 27-Nov-12 21:18:22

tas you're in the club too! Although your tiny head has blown the big head theory out the window! It is funny reading some of the 'traits' of rhesus negative people online, one said 'Rhesus neg people are more likely to be abducted by aliens' on account of the majority of alien abductions are reported by rhesus neg people. Lets just hope we have our babies first hey girls?? Alien abduction now would be most inconvenient.

tasmaniandevilchaser Tue 27-Nov-12 21:29:52

Abducted by aliens! Pmsl! That would be inconvenient

Reenypip Tue 27-Nov-12 21:44:09

Hiya! My first time posting in this topic. I'm due on may the 15th with my second child. I have already been told ill be having an elective c section about a week before (due to many health problems) I'm nervous because of the life threatening problems I had during my c section with my 1st.
My 20 week scan is 2 days after Christmas.

mwncigirl Tue 27-Nov-12 22:04:33

Mmmm chocolate. Mind you, that's not just a pregnancy craving wink

mwncigirl Tue 27-Nov-12 22:05:14

Oh and butternut and coriander soup. Yum.

tasmaniandevilchaser Tue 27-Nov-12 22:06:20

Hi reeny, welcome! Sorry to hear about your health problems, I know pg can be a scary time and once you've had a bad experience, it's never the same sad
Hope that your consultant is keeping a good eye on you and that it all goes smoothly. And feel free to off load here.

I've just bought my first item of maternity clothes! It's a big step for me, I might just be starting to engage mentally with the bump, now at 17 wks. I thought that once they established it wasn't another ectopic and I got through the 12 wk scan without the baby dying, then everything would be ok. In reality as time goes on, I just have been feeling there's more to lose. Anyway, hoping that this marks a change for me.

Hope everyone else is ok

berri Tue 27-Nov-12 22:30:53

Hi and welcome Reeny I hope things go smoothly for you this time.

I'm in the RH- club too! Picklep tas and jen <bumps fists>

I've known for years and there's not usually a problem unless you have any bleeding during the pregnancy (spotting doesn't count, has to be more than a tbsp) but you will be given the anti-d/rhogam shot after birth regardless as your blood will have mixed and it protects subsequent babies.

Unfortunately though it wears off after a while, and none showed up in my early blood test so I had to have another shot a couple of weeks ago after I'd had the biggest bleed with this one. Yes it's in your bum, nice!

jenpenod Tue 27-Nov-12 22:30:59

Can't stop laughing re. large headed rhesus negative theory...I definitely don't have a small head grin

Maybe the head comes in handy when fending off aliens?

berri Tue 27-Nov-12 22:31:21

Oh and the big-head theory is definitely not true here DH calls me pinhead

cuppateaandagingersnap Tue 27-Nov-12 22:32:18

Hi Reeny yay a new due date buddy! My 20 week scan is on New Year's Eve. How old is your 1st DC? Natural to be apprehensive if you had such a worrying time last time, I'm sure they will be keeping a really close eye on you this time.

Reenypip Tue 27-Nov-12 22:47:43

Hiya all, berri, tas and cupatea!
My first, is a little boy 19 months.
He will turn 2 a couple of weeks before my second is due.
I have weekly appointments at the hospital so they do keep an eye on things. some things can't be predicted, but of course that's normal :-) I just hope they have all the knowledge and staff available to help.
They don't know what caused the heart problem during the c section so they don't know what really to avoid or decrease the risk.

My cravings have been for honey, and things such as gravy, mash and peas, and apples, so far.

Wirrawoo Tue 27-Nov-12 23:30:53

Hi reeny! Welcome smile

pickle I hear you re the Seraphine jeans. Have got some too and they are seriously comfortable!
beautician yeah the first site I found most stuff too expensive but got lucky with a few things that were fab. In my line of work I need a specific type of formal clothing as am performing, so what I found there turned out to be cheaper than what I would usually have to buy (tax deductible!). Good because had been freaking out about how much I would need to get.
The livelove site has everything from £4 up though so bargains galore!

Wirrawoo Tue 27-Nov-12 23:34:47

Also, am laughing about the rhesus negative/big head thing!!

Had MW appointment today, was really nervous but all was fine. She was lovely, we heard the heartbeat... I agree with the previous comment that hearing the heartbeat makes it more real. It all still feels so nebulous somehow, but knowing he's actually in there is such a relief!

Reenypip Tue 27-Nov-12 23:36:49

Has anyone felt movement yet? I'm 16w tomorrow and I'm positive I've felt flutters and rolling.

Kittykatmacbill Wed 28-Nov-12 10:47:49

Hello all and specially newbies,

Re pregnancy trousers I love my h&m mama jeans really comfy and look normal, but have an integrated bump band. I also have a really uncomfortable pair of mamas and papas cords and a lovely pair of tweeds from top shop.

My bump appears to arrived overnight! Very strange grin

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Wed 28-Nov-12 10:54:04

I've been feeling movement for about 3 weeks Reeny, although I'm a bit further along than you. I don't feel kicks as such, it's more like a grapefruit being rolled around my bump. I can tell when he's awake and when he's sleeping and also which corner of the womb he's squashed himself into.

18 weeks today. Eeek!

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Wed 28-Nov-12 12:01:54

Hi reeny. I've been feeling the odd flutter since 11 weeks, but I'm on my third.

I had my first consultant appointment today. After looking at my notes the first thing he said to me was "you've put on weight since last time". They also want me to have a glucose test, which I didn't have with the previous two, despite being bigger when I was expecting DS. It's not a problem having it, other than the fact the hospital is nearly an hour away and the test takes two hours. It's more that I don't see that it's necessary, tbh I couldn't be bothered to argue about it. I'm also having extra scans at 28 and 34 weeks.

My jeans are starting to get tight, I had next maternity jeans with DD which were really comfy, I'm currently looking at some on eBay!


Hello all

Has anyone found any nice party wear.I have quite a few parties in December plus I like to wear something nice over Christmas.

Completely embarrassed myself at school today.Spoke to ds1 teacher and she was very helpful and said they are going to start social stories with him and monitor him at lunchtime. Anyway I felt reassured by her and then we went round to playground. Ds1 was fighting with one child and I had to tell him then about 10 mins later s load of children were around ds1 chanting at him.He cried and then I went into his teacher and cried.Feel such an idiot.


Forgot to add to all those with 20 week scans coming up.Who will be finding out the sex? We have ours on 28th and will find out on New Years Eve.

Kittykatmacbill Wed 28-Nov-12 13:32:26

Oh beaut, you do seem to have a tough time! I guess at least the school is aware of the issue...

Re party clothes found a lovely non maternity skirt that I can wear a size or two up. Purple and glittery. Can wear with black maternity top! smile and possibly a bump band....


Kitty I am feeling rather sorry for myself at the moment.Think it's mostly pregnancy hormones. I can't wait for Christmas to arrive to get a bit of a break.

wilderumpus Wed 28-Nov-12 13:50:17

welcome reeny! I have been feeling teeny little flutters for a while now but they are becoming more noticeable now (am 16+1)

oh beaut that would break my heart and i would cry too a lot. Your little boy is hitting out and you don't know why but are worried for him, and the others chanting at him must have been awful to see. These are stressful things. has he told you what he is feeling about it all? He'll be ok with you looking out for him am sure. brew biscuit

aw am envious of your parties! I am away from friends and family and don't have a job so won't have a single party this year! Boo.

beaut sorry am being thick, but how come you are having your scan on the 28th but won't find out the gender till NYE?!

i don't know when my next scan is, am starting to fret! does anyone else not know yet?!

thanks for jeans recommendations everyone!

tasmaniandevilchaser Wed 28-Nov-12 13:51:49

Oh beaut, poor you! Good that the school are on it. I can't wait for Christmas either.

DD has tonsillitis, she was quite poorly to start with but now is annoyingly perky, though not perky enough for nursery. I am still exhausted and really want to rest but am having to be a bit more on the ball. Neither of us are really well enough to get out, so we're watching a lot of DVDs. I am suffering from CSI Miami withdrawal symptoms. Luckily the new Octonauts is quite entertaining. The colossal squid is very funny!

I'm feeling rolls and flutters, but it's off and on. Scan on the 18th, really want to find out the sex, to know if we've got to get new clothes. Dd wouldn't let us see her bum during her scan, little pickle, so there's no guarantees!

seven I've also got my eye on some next mat jeans on eBay, bet they're the same ones! Do they end tonight?

Reeny Welcome sorry I missed your post. I have been feeling the odd movement for a while but it is my 3rd do probably more apparent.

Wilde You aren't being thick grin DP wants the sonographer to write down the sex and we will read it at New Year.We are going to a black tie and cocktail dress dinner at our local pub.They are only letting 60 people in so I'm really looking forward to it.

Tas Hope you and dd feel better soon.I forgot about all the cartoons ill be watching again.The ds's are still into Ben 10 though.

tasmaniandevilchaser Wed 28-Nov-12 14:04:53

God I'm an idiot! Went onto eBay to look at the jeans I was bidding on, couldn't find them anywhere on my profile so thought I had just dreamt it. So have bid on more then found the 1st pair in my "things you have BOUGHT"! So may well have 2 pairs of mat jeans. Doh! I am in charge of a small child, not entirely sure this is safe.....

tasmaniandevilchaser Wed 28-Nov-12 14:09:42

Thanks beaut. that's a lovely idea with finding out the sex! Sadly I have the self-control of a two-year-old so that wouldn't work for me.

Picklep Wed 28-Nov-12 14:15:08

beaut I have just burst into tears reading your post about the NYE idea - what a LOVELY, LOVELY idea! You will have such a lovely evening and you will need the perfect dress. Have you looked on asos.com - I have ordered a couple dresses from there. Like you wilde I am not working so have no office parties but hoping one of our friends have some gatherings and if I am up to it I might have one. You and your partner should have a special evening evening where you can both get dressed up over the holidays.

Welcome Reeny I haven't felt anything yet but it's my first so hoping it won't be too much longer, can't wait to feel something.

Jenpod yes hopefully our large heads will put us at an advantage if an alien encounter occurs!

Tas I have already told DP he will have to hide it from me as I will want to sneak a peek.

Pickle Thank you. Sorry I made you cry too must be catching today. I have looked on asos but not too sure on anything. I have bought a nice plain black dress from there that I will be wearing to DP s works do and I will just dress it up with accessories

wilderumpus Wed 28-Nov-12 14:32:34

aw beaut what a lovely idea smile might steal it and your NYE sounds fab. Am not a big NYE person myself so a quiet one in a local pub would be smashing. next year mebbes!

eek tas hope your dd gets better soon and gives you some peace as well!

roastpotatoes Wed 28-Nov-12 15:51:24

Hi everyone,

It's so exciting to hear that so many of you are feeling the baby now. I am 17.3 and don't think I've felt anything yet - but it's my first so I guess it takes a bit longer.

We had another scan today (part of a research study so have a few extra scans) and all looked well with the baby. We even got to see the baby in 3D for a bit which was cool - although it looked a bit skeletal and weird!

The sonographer has put the gender of the baby in an envelope for us to open on Christmas Day. He also printed out a picture and put it in the envelope - everyone was laughing as he did it, so I have my suspicions that it is a boy! But we'll have to wait a month to find out!

I didn't like this scan as much as my 12 week one. He was pressing really hard and it was quite uncomfortable. There was also a trainee there who had a go too so I felt like a bit of a guinea pig. I then started getting really anxious that the scan was in some way bad for the baby, which stressed me out.

Flip, there's so much to get anxious about during this process!

Sorry to hear you're having a tough time beaut - I'm sure getting the school involved will help. Hang on in there - not long until Christmas now!

roastpotatoes Wed 28-Nov-12 15:53:29

P.S. Thanks so much for all of your support around maternity leave stuff last week - I have got my head around it now and know what I am going to say that I want to do when I next see my boss - and it won't be going back full time after 4 months! I really appreciated all your comments - good to be reminded to put things in perspective.

berri Wed 28-Nov-12 16:56:25

beaut poor you and poor DS. Christmas is just around the corner so focus on that and the lovely break you have coming up!

I was wondering the other day how you are feeling these days about your other worries - did you speak to your DH or midwife in the end? I hope you're still feeling in control.

Berri Thank you for your lovely post. No I chickened out and still haven't told anyone. I have lapsed a couple of times recently but it's because I stupidly weighed myself and have put on a shocking amount.Its obviously going to take a long while for my body to settle down.So to try and control it I have started excercising again

Yes really can't wait for Christmas. Can't believe how quickly it has come around.

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Wed 28-Nov-12 19:37:05

beaut you could always check out the Eating Disorders boards on Mumsnet if you feel you could do with some support but don't want to actually tell anyone. Hope things improve for your DS soon.

tas yes they end tonight, I'm the high bidder at £5.99! Hope your DD is better soon, how old is she?

I think DS has the flu, he's been really miserable today sad

wilderumpus Wed 28-Nov-12 19:57:09

take care beaut.

hope your DS is ok seven

glad you sorting out mat leave issues in your head roast.

I really can't believe the loveliness of opening your letters to find out the sex of your babies at xmas/NYE! I, however, am way too impatient but I wish I wasn't, it sounds like a brill idea! grin

MaybeAMayBaby Wed 28-Nov-12 21:18:07

Hi ladies,

Beaut-I feel like I've missed something from earlier. Just wanted to say that I've been there in the past. Have you had support in the past?
Your poor DS. No wonder you cried! How is he? 31/2 weeks to go x

Very jealous of all the scans. Mine isn't until jan 8th. I'll be 18 weeks on Xmas eve and am now wondering about getting a private scan done before Xmas. Is it worth it do you think? If you had a private scan for gender would they also have a good look like they do in the anomaly scan? Just hoping to put my mind at rest.

Another bump growing ridiculously fast here. Just ordered some tops. Mine are now all too short and won't cover my bump! I think some of the kids have guessed at school. No one has come out and said anything yet. My DH works there too so could be interesting!

Wirrawoo Wed 28-Nov-12 23:20:33

Ooh was just lying on the sofa with my partner watching telly and felt a definite kick! He put his hand on it too and then we both felt a few more definite little kicks!!! Omg there really is a baby in there smile
Was crying over the One Born Every Minute what they did next episode. A baby that ended up with meningitis from Strep B. Got totally freaked out but then reminded that at least they know with me and I will get antibiotics in labour so little Mungo (we call him a different weird name every time) should be fine. Was a teary mess for a while though. Hormones....

scooby26 Thu 29-Nov-12 09:58:32

Wirawoo- yay for kicks!

Away at the mo but hoping one born every minute will be on catch up tv!

I too have group b strep and am so glad we know- another lady due same time as DS didn't know and her baby is now disabled :-(. With antibiotics our risk drops to about 1/8000. Hospital are still unsure how to deal this time but I will INSIST on antibiotics whether I'm swabbed or not! How did you come to find out you had it? I fell down stairs when pregnant lag time and was swabbed when in hospital- I had a smear earlier this year and asked to be reswabbed- no surprise still have it!

Wirrawoo Thu 29-Nov-12 14:41:31

scooby thanks smile those odds have made me feel better. How unlucky for your friend sad I found out because they screen for it in my area when you have the tests at your first midwife app. Didn't even know they were testing for it let alone what it was but am so grateful they did! Hope all goes well for you, that must have been scary falling down the stairs last time. As I understand it we just get IV antibiotics every 4 hours from the start of labour. Still ok for all labour options and you can still walk around.

berri Thu 29-Nov-12 15:57:34

I've been thinking about the group b strep as well, when is it that you need to be tested for it? Is it a bit further along or is it something I need to be mentioning at my next appointment?

Wirrawoo Thu 29-Nov-12 16:15:33

berri Would imagine you can be tested at any point as mine was part of the routine urine test at my original booking app. It can come and go apparently.

LittleSpade Thu 29-Nov-12 17:52:25

Hi everyone

I'm having an interesting week - went to a work related evening lecture with one of my close friends (who've not told about the pregnancy yet) on Tues evening but we arrived late and had to stand at the back (for over an hour) and part way through i came over really hot and dizzy and basically knew that if i wasn't going to faint i had to either leave or take my jumper off. Sounds simple except my jumper was my hoodie - the only top i have that still fool-proofly hides my bump (due to the pocket on the front) - whic i'd worn in disguise so she didn't guess before i had the chance to tell her properly when both her DH and mine would be there (which we'd already planned for a meal tonight to belatedly celebrate my birthday - been trying to get them together to tell them for weeks but their DS has been ill). So anyway I had to take to hoodie off but I was wearing a really fitted top underneath that really hugged my bump so it'll be interesting to find out tonight whether she noticed! I so think she did as when someone left and a seat became available even though she was nearer it she insisted i sit down.

Had lunch with another friend today and told her. After which i undid my cardigan and she said i definately have a bump which, given i'm only slowly getting more confident in the pregnancy after past mc's, really made me grin

I work from home with few client meetings so so far i have only bought casual maternity clothes but i suddenly have to attend an important meeting next week - really nerbous about what to wear and about my clients noticing before I'm ready to announce it in a work context! Any tips on disguising a bump in work clothese much appreciated!

A quick question can I eat goats cheese?Just booking my choice on the menu for New Years Eve do .

16 weeks exactly today grin

scooby26 Thu 29-Nov-12 18:21:26

Wirawoo- there is no mass routine testing in uk presently - I had a test when I fell down stairs at 25 weeks and had contractions so ruling out a cause. USA/ oz test at 37 weeks which the the only reliable time as it can come / go. Testing early can mean that the infection has cruelly left by birth which is when the risk is but testing at 37 weeks safely means its likely at labour time. I recommend anyone get private test ( swab) and if positive nhs would stand by result!

I felt a flump, I felt a flump! Granted I was lying on my belly, but it was a definate "oy I'm here" flump.

Right going to catch up on what I've missed up thread.

Wirrawoo Thu 29-Nov-12 19:20:47

littlespade a blazer style jacket if you wear it open will minimise the bump... A floaty top underneath and a scarf of some sort usually does enough to make it less obvious. Hope that helps smile

Littlespade Unfortunately I can no longer hide my bump. However, in the earlier stages I just wore looser dresses with tights the tights held me in a little but not uncomfortably so. How far along are you ? smile

MaybeAMayBaby Thu 29-Nov-12 19:55:22

Beaut-it's a 'no' to goats cheese I think. It has a rind doesn't it? I had bought a pasteurised camembert the other week thinking it would be fine. But when I searched online apparently it's not it being pasteurised that's te issue, it's the rind. It can have a certain bacteria on it.

Yay to all the kicking. I've stopped feeling definite flutters, but today while I was lecturing my yr10s for their appalling behaviour I suddenly felt a thump. It made me stop mid sentence!

Anyone else eating soooo much? I have actually lost 2kg in the past few weeks but I can't stop eating. I must be burning it off (sitting on my arse).

GeordieCherry Thu 29-Nov-12 20:00:30

Got more of a proper bump now grin
How do I know what's usual body things & what's a fluttery kick? I'm 15+5. Can't wait!

lollypopsicle Thu 29-Nov-12 20:19:08

beaut the most common sort of goats cheese is ok (think nhs website actually specifies it) The type of goats cheese with a rind is not ok though. I guess the only way to be sure is to ask the place before you choose.

I defo felt a 'kick' that made me jump today! I'm 15 weeks today. I felt DS for sure at 14 weeks but this time I haven't felt movements as definitely...until today grin

Think I'm leaving the ms behind. Wooo hooo!

Maybe Thank you I thought it was so I've gone for the chicken. Wish I was losing weight hmm

I look so big. I do hope I dont have a big baby.Ds1 was 6lb at term and ds2 7lb 4 at term.

I have updated mumsnet on my iPhone and have some new icons can everyone see them.Just wondered if only iPhone users

lolly Thank you.

Geordie The only feelings you get usually in your tummy are rumblings or crampy type feelings from wind,hunger etc.Baby movements feel more like flutterings or rolling type movements.

Rhienne Thu 29-Nov-12 20:36:03

LittleSpade - loose blouses are your friend! I splurged on one of these (don't need so much maternity wear, as this is DC2) and it's great for hiding my bump:

berri Thu 29-Nov-12 21:17:05

littlespade I find patterns or stripes are v concealing - and definitely the baggier the better!

Thanks for the strep info, next appt isn't for a couple of weeks so I'll make a note to come back to it...

Wirrawoo Thu 29-Nov-12 21:52:29

scooby yes, they said they will be testing again later in the pregnancy. I was told that I will definitely have IV antibiotics in labour though due to testing positive at any stage in pregnancy. It's all a bit confusing! It's such a shame they don't have mass routine checks in the UK. Here's hoping they will one day. We just got sent a letter and a photocopied pamphlet so was all a bit freaky until we spoke to our midwife about it. Hope all goes well for you thanks

Reenypip Thu 29-Nov-12 21:53:51

Hi Geordie, with my first baby, the first movements which I wasn't sure was baby at the time felt like pop corn popping.

scooby26 Thu 29-Nov-12 22:46:29

Snap WIRAWOO- all we got last time was the insensitive letter with a leaflet about risk says I had this lurgy! ;-)

Feel very lucky though as much better off than the 25% of ladies who carry it and hae no idea. As I haven't been tested in this pregnancy they cannot decide whether I'm high risk consultant led or not! Depends who I speak to.... Though all happy that of I want antibiotics I can have them- erm yes..... No brainer thanks! Just beware if you are hoping for birthing pool there are mixed policies due to our 'germ' despite 25% unwittingly using pools without knowing! I had to really persuade them and get it in writing or it would be a no go- plus if you waters go first it's a no go as ull be induced straight away which rules pools out due to the drip. But annoying!

GeordieCherry Thu 29-Nov-12 22:59:16

Thanks Reeny & Beaut. At the moment it kind of feels like bubbling, like a trump would when first brewing blush

Zorra Fri 30-Nov-12 09:00:46

What a long old week! Had my nuchal scan about ten days ago, all looks good thank God. DC2 was bouncing away merrily, and jabbering. Looks like it will take after its big brother!

In bad news I had a car crash on Monday, and still very bruised and shaky. My right breast is totally purple from the seatbelt sad Plus cramps legs and general woe. They gave me a scan and bubs seemed fine but I keep panicking that either I have something undiagnosed, or imagining how much worse it could have been...

Still, counting blessings. 15 weeks smile

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Fri 30-Nov-12 10:56:00

Blimey, all this talk about hiding bumps. I couldn't hide mine if my life depended on it. I daren't go for a walk on the beach in case Greenpeace tow me back out to sea. My neighbour is 26 weeks and I look bigger than her shock.


LittleSpade Fri 30-Nov-12 13:08:31

Thanks Wirra and berri I was thinking something along those lines may work - I'll have to have a bit of a trying things on session at the weekend! Not convinced though as am growing rapidly!

Beaut I was doing that too originally but it stopped working a couple of weeks ago - I'm now 16+5 and the meeting is when I'll be 17+5. It's my first so i am quite suprised at how fast it's growing (but pleased).

Rhienne unfortunately blouses/shirts never worked for me at the best of times let alone with inflated pregnancy breasts but I do have some floaty tops along similar lines to the one you linked to so I'll try some stuff on at the weekend.

Maybe I thought it was a no to all goat's cheese - please tell me i'm wrong!

I'm totally with you Panda - I think I'm not far off the same size as my friend who's at a similar stage to your neighbour. Is this your first DC?

Oh Zorra how scary! Glad they scanned you to check on baby and i hope the rest of you feels better soon enough. Have some brew and biscuit.

lollypopsicle Fri 30-Nov-12 13:39:11

Wow I am ridiculously emotional at the moment. I could feel the tears coming when 23mo DS refused to eat his lunch! I also started crying at the sheer thought of a 'call the midwife' Christmas special confused

On the goats' cheese issue, I shall try and link to nhs below but making not promises so to summarise. If the cheese is soft with a rind then don't eat it, eg chèvre. Sadly this seems to be the goats' cheese of choice in restaurants. However you can eat it cooked through eg goats' cheese tart

There are goats' cheeses you can buy in the supermarket that are soft and not mould ripened (or no rind) so these and hard goats cheeses will be ok. Attempting link...

lollypopsicle Fri 30-Nov-12 13:45:28

I love cheese btw so it's important to me to know that I can eat some! I was very glad to realise we can eat Stilton as Xmas with no Stilton would be very sad indeed! Also, smoked salmon is safe. Best. News. Ever. grin

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Fri 30-Nov-12 14:17:45

LittleSpade this is my second, although the midwife told me I get treated like it's a first as it's more than 10 years since number 1. My daughter is 19 shock

I'm feeling very sad about the cheese ban. We have a cheese factory near us and they have a restaurant which serves a cheese buffet. Cheeses and crackers and nibbly things from all over the world that you can gorge on try. We won't be going this Christmas sad

wilderumpus Fri 30-Nov-12 16:38:31

lol I am scoffing all cheese! grin I bloody love it but happily am off really stinky cheese - seem to like tart cheeses and had goats cheese last weekend. Didn't think owt of it really. I did think stilton was off the menu so haven't had that - but is it ok then lolly AND smoked salmon?!! WOOT.

maybe I have only put on 2lbs so far this pg BUT am eating so much this week too! Am eating every two hours odd, and not snacking - I had proper lunch of rice and thai soup and then had to have two pieces of toast at 3! and will eat again at 5! Is so weird, am just hungry. Not shaky hungry like in the early days, but just hungry. Think will start putting the weight on now, eek.

Am lurged, I have a hideously sore throat. I can't have throat sweets can I?

zorra horrible news about your car crash sad I hope you are ok.

is anyone else, ahem, really burpy?! God it is a shocker, I cant even have a cup of coffee without burping really loudly! and that combined with acid reflux... ouch!

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Fri 30-Nov-12 16:51:04

Antacids have become a new food group for me. I've been through 2 massive boxes of Rennie, 1 huge box of Asda's own and am now half way through a tub of Tums.

berri Fri 30-Nov-12 16:51:58

Zorra how scary, I'm glad you're ok. Hope your bruises go down soon, take care of yourself.

jenpenod Fri 30-Nov-12 16:59:09

I'm another antacid fiend. For those of you who've been pregnant before - does the acid reflux last the whole 9 months? I'm scared it might!

Mine went away in the 2nd tri jen but came back in the 3rd. (Sorry)

GeordieCherry Fri 30-Nov-12 17:06:21

Eek Zorra you poor thing! But hospital said all ok?
Heartburn is my new best enemy. Chocolate milk seems to be working but not very good for ya confused
Bump looks nice in some clothes. Just look like I've eaten too many pies in other things...

jenpenod Fri 30-Nov-12 17:08:10

Thanks frustrated...feel so naive, always thought pregnancy looked like a walk in the park but it's actually quite hard!

wilderumpus Fri 30-Nov-12 17:46:49

geordie I have the same issue! In overbump trousers and a fitted maternity top I look like I have a lovely neat little bump. Underbump/normal trousers and a jumper tho and I just look tubby!

My heartburn issues never went once they started with DS jen and seem to have started earlier and just got worse with this one. everyone is different tho smile

flamin rennie do nothing for me! Is gaviscon all the way at the mo and if (when?!) it gets worse in the 3rd tri I shall go to the drs for the hard stuff. I love the tablets but they stick in my teeth!

LittleSpade Fri 30-Nov-12 17:54:29

Panda that cheese restaurant sounds like my kind of heaven! Would you mind me asking in roughly what part of the country it is? although maybe i shouldn't cos if it's nearby you might need to restain me

Wilde I'm with you on the burps although onions and garlic seem to be my biggest trigger foods and they're in everything!

So glad it's the weekend!

Wirrawoo Fri 30-Nov-12 18:18:29

wilde totally with you there... Am a burping machine at the mo! Have never been able to burp impressively before so seem to be making up for lost time shock
Am mainlining gaviscon too. Mostly at night or if stressed but its the only thing that helps. That and milk.

lolly big yay to smoked salmon! Bring on the blinis!!

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 30-Nov-12 18:26:31

thanks seven, hope your DS is better soon too. DD is 3, nearly 4. She seems to be a bit better today thankfully. We have made her a wand. Being at home both of us ill all week has been......erm.....interesting. Thanks flipping God for the ipad.

maybe I know what you mean about wanting a scan sooner. I think they do have a good look at anomalies if you go private, but I was only looking at the Fetal Medicine Centre in London, so not sure if the babybond places do.

scooby sad for the lady with Strep B. I am galvanised into testing at 37 weeks now. Where do I go? Does anyone know?

littlespade I know what you mean about people noticing before you're ready to announce. When I go back on Monday, I'm going to have to tell people, which is a bit nervewracking after a MMC and an EP this year. They mostly all know about them so sure they'll be delighted but it's still a big deal to me.

beaut I see a green face and a glass of wine (not on Iphone)

zorra you poor thing! Hope you're recovering ok. I think it's natural to worry about the little one, but they are well cushioned in there, nature has designed it that way.

flaminnora grin at the thought of Greenpeace rushing in to save you!!!

wilde sorry you're poorly, have a nice honey and lemon. I've had a load of them, try adding fresh ginger as well, very warming.

jen sorry to be another one to tell you, it just gets worse as the baby presses up, soz! Gaviscon Advance was my friend in the last pg. 100 times better than ordinary gaviscon (which did NOTHING)

I'm back at work on Monday (gulp!), but have arranged to work half days til Xmas (phew!). The most I've done in the last month is walk to the local shops, I seriously cannot imagine being on the go from 7.30am til 6pm.

The bump is getting larger, I can feel it growing and pressing and stretching. Just want to get the anomaly scan over and done with, have to wait until the 18th Dec. If anything is wrong, we are plunged into Christmas shift staffing issues, so praying that it's all boring and fine.

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Fri 30-Nov-12 20:07:57

Sorry LittleSpade, I know I shouldn't mention yummy food to pregnant ladies. Unfortunately for you I'm in Sweden, so you'd have to come a long way for your cheese buffet. But if you are ever in the vicinity, it's this place:


Wow panda 150 different cheeses! And they give co-ordinates to get there!

Wirrawoo Fri 30-Nov-12 20:27:31

zorra sorry meant to say before, really hope you're feeling better after that scare. thanks must have been so scary, but if the hospital has checked you out and given all-clear then that's great. They are well cushioned in there those little bubs. Big hugs to you xx

wilde lemon and honey works wonders. Hope you feel better brew

GeordieCherry Fri 30-Nov-12 21:13:26

Wilde I've ordered a pair of maternity trousers from Vertbaudet, see how they go on. Definitely more 'bump' than 'pies' with leggings on I think. Although it's so flippin cold I've been sticking with the jeggings. Just folding the waistband down as my arse & legs don't need another size up yet smile

I'll ask the MW on Thursday but will I get called for whooping cough vaccination..?

MyFriendGoo Fri 30-Nov-12 21:41:21

lurking May lady materialises

There IS a cheese restaurant in the UK! www.thecheesesociety.co.uk/

lurking May lady disappears back into the mist

Kittykatmacbill Fri 30-Nov-12 23:13:29

wilde you can't have any throat medicine w active ingredients like strepcils (err that doesn't look right but to late to think...) as the were by closing capillary and reducing the blood flow, not good for baby sad. I went through this in boots, all I could get was fishermans friends, then had To sit through a almost 4 hour meeting feeling really queasy, with a sore throat and only thimble size glasses of water....

flamin tell me about, I feel like a total hippo no elegant bump for me I fear! wink

Re blue cheese and smoked salmon, are you sure? I am sure both my books say no to both...

Very jealous of all your movements stories, had nothing yet!


FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Fri 30-Nov-12 23:37:56

While that looks very nice MyFriendGoo, it is lacking 1 essential ingredient: an all you can scoff cheese buffet. grin

MyFriendGoo Sat 01-Dec-12 06:00:03

kitty have definitely read on NHS site that Stilton is ok...

flaminnora I hadn't read far back enough to appreciate the true deliciousness of this Swedish phenomenon....dang!

Off to have baked brie at the Christmas party today....baked is ok I think???

Yours, Goo (who was more or less vegan until the cravings kicked in and is now a woman obsessed)

Zorra Sat 01-Dec-12 06:15:34

Thanks for the nice thoughts! Bruising is going down and Dr said all is fine, but it ha exacerbated all the headaches, aches and paranoia I had already!

YY to heartburn, bleurgh. Hope you ladies have a nice weekend!

lollypopsicle Sat 01-Dec-12 07:06:28

Happy December ladies!

zorra make sure you give yourself time to mentally get over your car crash. Talk to dr or mw of you need to as I imagine pregnancy magnifies the trauma of it all as well. Look after yourself.

Kitty, brownies honour, the nhs says stilton and dmoked salmon are safe... Here's more nhs links tgat state Stilton is ok because all hard cheese is ok (nhs specifically says Stilton as an example). Also that smoked salmon is ok...although not all countries agree but if it's good enough for the nhs then it's good enough for me. Having said that I did avoid it at a wedding the other week when served as a canapé as I didn't know where it had come from or how long it had been 'out' for iyswim



Off to look at goo's uk cheese restaurant link now, yum is it weird to want cheese at 7 in the morning?

Ellypoo Sat 01-Dec-12 09:44:50

Hi all! Loving being able to have stilton, it's feels like a massive treat!! Winter isn't the same without it.

Wondering of any of you could help/reassure me please.

I am having sharp stabbing type pains in the left side of my bump, quite low done, they aren't particularly regular, and depends what position I'm lying in, but a bit scary. Any ideas?

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Sat 01-Dec-12 10:52:50

Elly could possibly just be ligaments stretching? I'd ring your MW or hospital if you're worried though to put your mind at rest.

zorra your car crash must have been scary, glad the hospital have given you the all clear.

goo why are you hiding? Come and join us! Any other lurkers here who want to our themselves?

I'm getting a big hooked on buying maternity clothes on eBay! This will be our third and last so I don't want to spend much. I won the £5.99 jeans, they even still have the tag on them. I also won two mamas and papas cardigans, just over £8 each. One is lambs wool, it's here already and it's so soft, it must have been at least £40 new. I've outgrown my old jeans, but discovered that maternity clothes make me look huge, I'm very glad I don't have to hide it.

I'm very jealous of those having scans before Christmas/new year, mine isn't until the 23rd January. I'm not sure I like being right at the back of the thread!

I can't believe we can have Stilton, I'm off to check out that link. And thanks to goo for mentioning baked Brie, I was gutted about the removal of Brie from the Christmas cheese board, I might have to do a baked Camembert on Christmas Eve once the DCs are in bed!

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Sat 01-Dec-12 10:57:14

Yay, Stilton is definitely on the menu, hooray! I prefer Danish Blue though, which isn't safe during pregnancy.

That's late seven mines on the 10th and we have the same dates. confused

Mmm Stilton. <drools>

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 01-Dec-12 11:21:52

hi all

zorra hope you're taking it nice and easy, I think it's only natural for something scary to magnify general worries about the baby, I got very very stressed after the pneumonia, antibiotics and chest X rays (not the same at all I know as a car crash but I have a general file of "horrible and scary" and I've put them both in there) but it has got better as I can see the bump growing. Just be kind to yourself. flowers

elly sounds like ligament stretching to me, hope you're ok

seven I'm constantly on Ebay as well! Just got the jeans and a top and bidding on a dress. I need knitwear too! Must have a look.

Re cheese, can I recommend gruyere? There's a Swiss fondue restaurant in London. Mmmmmm. I'm having cravings, thank god it's on the NHS website as safe. I'm sure this has changed since having DD but I'm not arguing. Talking about recommendations changing, they have changed since I first looked at 5 weeks! It used to say you can eat rare meat as long as the outside is cooked properly, but it's changed now to say they're still looking into toxoplasmosis, so no rare meat at all for now.

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Sat 01-Dec-12 11:23:47

I was hoping to sneak a bit of brie on Christmas day but I'll never get it past my husband. He's normally laid back and follows my lead, but my pregnancy has turned him into the food police. He's even hiding the coffee so I can only have 1 cup a day (which he makes because he luvs us). This is despite 3 cups being the recommendation here. He jumps between the Swedish and UK recommendations depending on which is the most restrictive. hmm

(I don't mind really. It shows how much he cares)

betsyb75 Sat 01-Dec-12 11:41:00

Hello everyone
I'm outing myself as a lurker, been here since the beginning but just a bit shy!
This will be my DC1 EDD May 6.
I'm excited scared and overwhelmed by everything, but wanted to say hello and also thank you, it really has been just so comforting reading everyone's journey so far, and has helped me relax a lot these last few weeks. I'm a bit of a worrier but I always feel so much better after being here.
So if you will have me, I would love to join the May family.

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 01-Dec-12 11:52:37

hiya betsy! smile We are almost due date buddies. DC2 is due 7th May. It is an exciting, scary, overwhelming journey! But also wonderful! When I was pg with DD, I was fretting a lot but I could never have imagined how wonderful it would be when she arrived (even with terrible sleep deprivation!)

flamin your DH is sweet!
My DH has no idea about these things, but his DF almost has a heart attack if I want a sip of wine at Christmas! I do feel thankful he cares but I do feel also very.......owned....judged...embarrassed.....not sure how to describe it. Maybe I feel it's my and my DH's business but not other people's? Don't think I've explained this very well, does anyone know what I mean? I suppose I'm thinking of our bodies being other people's property - people grabbing the bump without asking, talking about our weight (DF I'm looking at you!! [ANGRY] etc.

scooby26 Sat 01-Dec-12 12:03:01

Welcome betsyb!

Flaminnora- aww that's sweet that he cares ;-)

I too am a cheese addict......!

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Sat 01-Dec-12 12:34:10

Hi betsy, glad you've finally 'officially' joined us.

tasmanian I'm sure he means well, must be very frustrating though. I'm generally happy to not drink during pregnancy, though I will be having a glass on Christmas Day. I don't think the rare odd glass will do any harm but I wouldn't do it often. I'll probably have one at new year then not another until my birthday in April.

DH has been ordered to buy Stilton on his way home tonight!

LittleBairn Sat 01-Dec-12 12:45:52

I've got so bad news. My waters broke yesterday at 15+3. Have have no waters left yet baby still alive with strong heartbeat but only a 1% chance of survival.
I'm calm one minute expecting my fate, sobbing the next.

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 01-Dec-12 13:01:10

oh god little I'm so sorry sad. There are no words to say.

Ellypoo Sat 01-Dec-12 13:24:40

Oh god little, I'm so sorry. Is there anything they can do? Huge hugs and handholding xxx

LittleBairn Sat 01-Dec-12 14:13:35

elly they were pretty doom and gloom about my prognosis they aren't expecting the baby to survive mostly because all the fluid is gone and it's so early.
BUT sometimes the fluid can reform and the membranes reform around the hole. Its a massive but, we literally need a miracle.
The baby this morning still had a strong healthy heartbeat it hasn't given up so neither will I but at the same time I'm mentally preparing to go into labour.
It's a confusing time.

LittleBairn Sat 01-Dec-12 14:17:02

Forgot 15+4 my little fighter is still with me so far...

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Sat 01-Dec-12 14:18:04

Oh god little I'm so sorry. Sending you huge hugs and thinking of you x

milkandribena Sat 01-Dec-12 14:26:33

little So sorry. I'll be thinking (and praying) for you and baby. Stay strong

CatchingMockingbirds Sat 01-Dec-12 14:26:59

I am so sorry littlebairn, I'll be sending out good thoughts today for you and your little one.

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Sat 01-Dec-12 14:48:49

Oh LittleBairn that is so awful, my heart goes out to you. I'm praying for you both.

Wirrawoo Sat 01-Dec-12 15:21:25

Oh little I'm so so sorry. Am thinking of you and hoping. My thoughts are with you. Xxxxxxx

MaybeAMayBaby Sat 01-Dec-12 15:36:28

So terribly sorry, LittleBairn. You're both in my thoughts. x

babygeek Sat 01-Dec-12 15:47:12

Oh Little, really sorry for you. Will be thinking of you and your little one. Stay strong Xxx

frankienoodles Sat 01-Dec-12 16:25:10

so sorry. such an incredibly sad thing to hear, take care xxx

Kittykatmacbill Sat 01-Dec-12 16:25:44

little I am so sorry, can't imagine how awful that would be. Sending in you some positive vibes. Xxx

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 01-Dec-12 16:36:16

little I've definitely heard of the fluid replenishing itself. Are you at home now or still in hospital? Thinking of you and hoping for that miracle.

betsyb75 Sat 01-Dec-12 16:57:25

LittleBairn I am so sorry, thinking of you xx

Sparklyboots Sat 01-Dec-12 17:11:57

Little good luck, darling, we're hoping for the miracle with you

LittleBairn Sat 01-Dec-12 17:23:57

Thank you all, your a great bunch.

tasmin yes I'm at home for now.
Spent a long and lonely night in hospital and couldn't face staying.

Little, so sorry to read your sad news. Sending you hugs, love and positive thoughts. Good luck.

Ellypoo Sat 01-Dec-12 17:38:13

Still a chance though, little one is fighting, I so hope that your waters replenish xxxx. My thoughts are with you xxx

Fx for you and fighting bean littleB

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Sat 01-Dec-12 18:06:38

little when do you next have to go back, how often will you be monitored? I don't believe so I can't pray, but I'm wishing on every star in the sky you get your miracle.

It's very scary how easy it is to forget how even after having a good scan things can still go wrong. And to think I was moaning about not being able to have Brie FGS.

Rhienne Sat 01-Dec-12 18:48:05

Oh LittleB. I'm so sorry to hear that! Sending all my best wishes. Take care of yourself and your DH.

LittleBairn Sat 01-Dec-12 18:50:29

seven it is scary I hadn't realised how much I let my guard down after the 12 week scan.
I'm back in on Tuesday morning for a scan to see if there is still a heartbeat and then again on Friday for another scan. But it will be a few weeks before we can tell if I'm developing new waters.
I've been told sometimes this can go on for weeks and weeks before the baby gives up or i could go into labour at any moment.

Rhienne Sat 01-Dec-12 18:54:15

Oh LB. That's a big load to bear. Here's hoping for good news. Are you on bed rest until then? Do you have things to keep you occupied, books to read, DVDs to watch?

LittleBairn Sat 01-Dec-12 19:39:08

rhienne well I've put myself on bed rest because I know that helps but the consultant didn't seem to think it was important, I got the impression she feels there is no chance of survival.
I've got my iPad so books, tv,net all in one.

Im just googling, reading success stories for 1% percentres but so far I havent managed to find a story that mentions Zero waters.

Forgot to add, yesterday when I had an examination my cervix was closed up tight, she could barely find it. But I did realise later just how much smaller my stomach had shrunk too.
I've never been so glad to be fat at least the baby has a little protection!

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 01-Dec-12 19:58:08

little good your cervix is closed, have they put you on antibiotics? It's so hard, horrible when you have no control over any of it. Hope that you and your DH have lots of support.

jenpenod Sat 01-Dec-12 20:07:36

Not been on here all day. Thinking of you little and hoping for a miracle. Take care...

ArtigeneAuberchoke Sat 01-Dec-12 20:20:03

LittleB - I'm so sorry to hear your news. I will keep everything crossed that you and BabyB are in the 1%. There is always hope. Can you do anything to improve your chances? Can I ask how you knew your waters broke? Was it different to wetting yourself (in both my previous labours I didn't notice!).

Can you all recognise who I am despite my namechange?

Picklep Sat 01-Dec-12 20:34:45

littleb I'm so sorry, what a shock. But what a little fighter, I have everything crossed that all will be OK. I have read that babies can survive with no amniotic fluid. You are in my thoughts and I hope you are getting the support you need. Sending hugs and so many positive vibes xx

GeordieCherry Sat 01-Dec-12 20:53:19

LB thoughts are with you & little LB. x

LittleBairn Sat 01-Dec-12 20:54:30

tasman no antibiotics at the moment showing no sign of infection in fact I seem completely normal other than I've lost all my amniotic fluid.

artigene I noticed straight away it was my waters. Ironically I was on the phone to midwife making my 16 week appointment came off the phone stood up and I gushed my waters and bloody fluid. But I realised it was my waters going.
It's like water trickling down your legs without any 'feelings' of when your having a wee.

For all my concerns regarding medics,hospitals and birth I have to say the hospital has been fantastic. DH has been truly amazing.

Thank you everyone for your kind wishes and thoughts, and yes to get this far my little bairn is one kick ass baby.

CatchingMockingbirds Sat 01-Dec-12 22:51:49

We're all thinking of you xxx

(I'm a namechanger, not a random lurker incase you were confused)

SeaSalt1 Sun 02-Dec-12 08:48:52

LittleB, I have only just read your news - so sad you are going through this, I'm thinking (and praying - hope that doesn't offend) for you. You have a little fighter in there. Remember the 1% is there for a reason - because it exists and your little one can be in it. Don't google too much and rest up, we're all here whenever you need support (I'm 8 hours ahead of you here too so you might even catch me in the middle of your night if you need some hand holding when others are asleep).

SevenElvesAndAReindeer Sun 02-Dec-12 08:54:02

How are you feeling this morning littleb?

berri when is your next scan btw?

10storeylovesong Sun 02-Dec-12 09:44:07

little I've not been on the thread for a few days and just caught up with your awful news. I'm so sorry to hear about it and sending positive thoughts your way. Your little un sounds like a fighter.

LittleBairn Sun 02-Dec-12 10:15:17

seasalt we agree 1% isn't 0% there are babies out there that have survived this!

seven I feel ok, not much bleeding (mostly old blood) and not in any pain.
I even had morning sickness!

So how's everyone's else's pregnacy going?
Don't let my situation stop you lot chatting, I'm the biggest moaner of us all I would usually be posting about my sickness and acid reflux. blush

cuppateaandagingersnap Sun 02-Dec-12 10:16:49

little I've got my fingers tightly crossed for you, such a horrible situation, sending you, your DH and your little bairn lots of love, xx

LittleBairn Sun 02-Dec-12 10:59:53

cuppa thank you for your kind words.

Right must nap, may as well since I'm stuck in bed.

tasmaniandevilchaser Sun 02-Dec-12 13:41:04

Hi little hope you had a good nap and you're feeling ok today.

wilderumpus Sun 02-Dec-12 14:26:40

little I just logged on for the first time this weekend. Am so sorry to hear your waters broke already and fingers crossed for your scan on Tuesday. I hope you are ok. This limbo must be so worrying for you.

thanks and brew and biscuit

Little So sorry I haven't posted earlier.Sorry to hear your waters have gone so soon.Hoping that lil bean stays strong and keeps on fighting.Really feel for you and don't know what else to say.Rest up and good luck with the scan.Thinking of you thanks

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Sun 02-Dec-12 19:19:36

Hmm, I'm rather confused. For the last week I've looked very, very pregnant with my massive bump. But it's gone today. Where's he gone? confused