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The 2nd broadly Gemini luxury bus.

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Welcome aboard, for the trip that will take us into the 2nd trimester and beyond, Make yourself comfy as we head towards maternity clothes, new bras, blooming, bumps, scans, and fading ms. Full of chatting, moaning tmi and mutual support.

Here is the link to our last bus.

Jojoba1986 Mon 12-Nov-12 22:27:56

I feel awful. Just helped DH do a spot of late-night furniture moving! Not sensible but necessary. The previous owners' cat had scratched the wallpaper on the corner by the window next to DS's cot & DS recently discovered that he can pull the curtain back & pull large chunks of it off. I found a large chunk in his mouth the other day! We tried wedging the curtain harder against the wall but he managed to move it today so we've just rearranged half our bedroom! In theory it should be better for him now it's getting colder because the double glazing isn't great on the window & now he's near a toasty radiator. I'm getting cramping & pelvic pain now! Stupid, stupid, stupid! sad

MrsBri Mon 12-Nov-12 22:29:37

Oh no, Jojo...hope you feel better soon.

Traumatic evening for us all tonight. :-/

Oh jojo get DH to get you a drink, and lie down with plenty of fluids. A good nights rest is what you need for cramps from over doing it, and hopefully you haven't strained a muscle or hurt your back. But at least ds can't get hold of any more wallpaper.

I'll just post in both places:

Mrs It's really common for some spotting at right around 8 weeks. This is the time that the placenta is starting to take over for hormone production and the corpus luteum is starting to reduce in size a bit, so there are some hormone fluctuations that can make you spot slightly. And yes, vigorous anything down there can lead to spotting too. The cervix is also very friable due to the extra blood vessels that are growing so sex or (pooing, I guess in your case) can lead to that as well.

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 03:26:23

Well...poor DH isn't getting his way with me, so it can only be pooing! Bless him.

Haha! Dh has been moaning lately...I just remind him to watch out for the end of the 3rd tri when I will be making him get that baby out. He shuts up quickly at the memory smile

Been working on midwifery homework tonight and have decided I just want to shut myself up in a lovely bubble during the pregnancy. I've been having to study on all of the horribleness that can happen. Thanks to classes like "complications in the prenatal period", "complications in the intrapartum", and "complications in the postnatal period", I now am a wreck thinking about all of the things that could go wrong! This is really bad timing sad.

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 06:34:33

What a nightmare, trumpets, poor you :-(

Morning all.

Poor trumpets homework doesn't sound nice.

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 07:05:42

Oh my god...after last night's brief trauma, little bean is attempting to reassure me by giving me the worst MS I've had so far.

Not kept ANY liquid down yet. My Weetabix stayed down though. Gonna have to drink more today as I've lost almost a litre of fluid already. :-/

This train journey could be fun.

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 07:18:52

Morning new bus! Oh JoJo that's the kind of thing I would do :-/ How are you feeling today?
Trumpets that is hard to digest! At least you're mega prepared. This is a silly example but my good friend did no reading up at all and blocked her ears for the whole pregnancy, she now says this left her with a very naive and traumatic labour experience. Hopefully your wise knowledge will make you wise and confident in time trying to think of the good point grin
MrsB bean is busy growing then :-) hope you survive the train journey!

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 07:26:49

It would appear so, Peardrop!

Bearing in mind we are likely to have a tall baby, this is probably how it is going to be from now on! :-)

Are you going to manage work today? Bet you can't wait for this weekend.

Jojoba1986 Tue 13-Nov-12 07:47:50

trumpets What are the statistics for all these potential problems? I bet they're all quite low for a normal, healthy pregnancy which is what you're going to have. Go read some Ina May to reassure yourself! wink

MrsB Sounds like you're not having the best morning but at least baby is letting you know it's ok!

I'm having beans on toast in bed while watching The Hoobs by myself! blush I can't help it, it's the only modern kids show that I approve of & I absolutely love it! grin I've got an appointment to have blood done this morning as the midwife couldn't get a drop out of me at my booking!

kittykatskumkwat Tue 13-Nov-12 07:53:19

How are things this morning Nic? Sounds like it is very normal and the increasing ms although horrible pretty reassuring!
Bringon- yes that sounds like hard homework to take, I guises whenever we hear a bad story we are bound to think it could happen to us so every bad story can't be good!
Well done on the new bus, can't believe we are on a third thread allready!

I am glad you're feeling more reassured this morning mrs
I also haven't been able to keep fluids down yet this morning,

kittykatskumkwat Tue 13-Nov-12 07:56:30

Oh and Jojo I'm guilty of doing that sort of thing all the time, I was painting garage doors and house doors the day before labour last time but it more likely to do you harm then baby and even then it's more likely your body reminding you to take it easy!

Just for jojo #we're off to see the tiddly peeps#

Jojoba1986 Tue 13-Nov-12 07:59:45

#They're smart, they're fun, they know!#

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 08:20:15

I'm at my desk and managing to sip water now, thank god. Feeling a touch wonky, but never mind.

Hope you are feeling better, Jojo...can't say I've ever watched that programme. DH would know it though, I'm sure. He has god daughters and his knowledge of kids' TV amazes me sometimes.

Although I hate being sick, I do like the assurance of morning sickness. Daft, eh?

Jojoba1986 Tue 13-Nov-12 09:08:01

Yay for water MrsB!

I've been drained of blood now. I asked if they do flu jab before 12 weeks & she went off to ask someone else who came in, got a needle out & said, "Well? Do you want it?" Saved me having a separate appt but I'm feeling like a pin cushion now!

Lorelei353 Tue 13-Nov-12 10:18:40

Lovely new bus. Can't believe it's a 2nd trimester bus too. In a way it felt like forever but when you think about it, that's a 1/3 through the pregnancy. Eek.

Well, I'm not quite there yet as I'm still only 10 + 2 but you nearly!

Glad things settled down for you MrsBri. Sounds like it was nothing after all. I know what you mean by the symptoms like MS being reassuring. I only did one HPT. We were fairly sure it was going to be positive as I was very late so once we got a positive result that was it. I've just been toddling along assuming it was right but with no further verification at all! Still, after 10 weeks with no period (no spotting even) and lots of symptoms I know it's true but it's felt like a long time without confirmation!

LibrarianAli Tue 13-Nov-12 10:33:55

Would it be ok to hop onto your bus? I've been shamefully lurking on the previous two, but was a bit nervous to join in. I didn't feel like it could possibly be real and also I felt bad because I didn't really have any symptoms to share, apart from some spectacular boobs (and you don't strike me as the sort of bus that's that into boobs!)

Anyway, I had my MW appointment yesterday and I think I'm about 11 weeks, so it's time to come out of the closet and get some company on the ride (mixing my metaphors there a bit)

I think I'm about 11 weeks, but have a very irregular cycle so it's hard to tell. I should have my scan later this week or early next and then I'll be a proper Pregnant... yay!

Jojoba1986 Tue 13-Nov-12 11:03:41

Welcome aboard Ali! Do let us know when you get your scan date, we love discussing scans even more than our obsession with boobage! grin

Talking of boobage, I'm now into the nursing bra I got when I had engorgement problems after DS was born & they're still feeling a little snug. I remember a time when I was rather pleased to be fitting into a B-cup... I'm now in Ds & v concerned that I might have to go even bigger even before June! Scary! I'm more than happy to be a little on the larger side but if they get much bigger I'm going to have problems fitting into some of my favourite clothes! sad I have numerous bras that I'm giving up any hope of fitting in to again, I just hope I don't permanently go up a size like I did last time! I wish I could tell 16 year old me that not only would I grow out of A cups but I'd be complaining about getting too big!

Hi ali, is it Ali or is it libra or librarian? <confuses self> welcome out of the closet and aboard the ride, make yourself comfy. We're definitely a boob and itchy nipples bus. grin

I'm 11 weeks too, hopefully your scan date will come through soon, I'm getting very impatient for mine, but have another 9 days to wait, but at least then I can start blabbing to everyone.

Omg lorelei I didn't think of it that way, 1/3 down and 2/3 left to go. I'm not quite there yet either, but I thought it would be nice to think positive and look towards the future. Can't wait to kiss goodbye to the ms and getting a bump. They start fluttering in the 2nd tri don't they?

jojo good that they did it there and them, at least you don't have to wait and worry about being jabbed.

mrs I hope you're feeling less wonky now.

jojo I perminanty went up to a double d after dd1, but after dd2 they have been slowly deflating back to a c. I am very pleased that they have gone back up. Although I don't think it bodes well that after buying new bras, they seem to be inflating again.
16year old me would have loved an A cup

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 11:30:10

Panic over. Turns out that my top wisdom tooth was a bit pointy and has been digging into bottom gum and the wisdom tooth that has recently resurfaced. So, dentist was able to sand it down! No need to remove them for now TG!

Oh that is good pear I'm so glad my problematic wisdom teeth have been removed

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 11:55:18

Hello Ali welcome to our bus! Glad you finally said hello. I get nervous when people say they've been hiding as some most of our conversations our nuts hmm

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 12:14:50

Hello all! Hurrah for more join talk :-)

Hi Ali!

I'm feeling a bit better, but am still dehydrated as only sipping water, so not catching up.

I really hate the fact that EVERYTHING tastes just horrid.

I'm impressed with the one test, Lorelei, well done!!

Yay for having your tooth filed down, Peardrop :-)

Sorry if I missed anyone.

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 12:59:40

If there are a few at 11 weeks it means we have some scan news on the way yopppeeee grin

I'm impressed too lorelei, I must have done at least 5 or 6 2 tests. grin

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 13:42:53

Lor Really? Only one test? Wow you saved money! I think I did 4/5 the day I found out and then another two cheapies later just for good measure

Jojoba1986 Tue 13-Nov-12 13:44:45

I still have 13 days to go before my scan! Hmph.

I only did one test too because it came up as such a definite positive very quickly. I took it a few days before AF was due & was excited about getting a faint line & doing another one after a few days & getting a stronger line. I now have a frer that I don't know what to do with! I won't be needing it for at least 4 years now, if at all, by which point it'll be out of date!

My arm hurts. Stupid jab. My boobs hurt. Stupid bra. My baby's awake but I'm being too lazy to go feed him. He'll shout if he gets hungry! wink I'm feeling really sleepy all of a sudden! I suppose I'd best get off my backside & feed him before I actually fall asleep & become so comatose that I don't hear him shouting for food! <Sigh> It's a hard life!

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 13:47:30

JoJo how old is your DC?

Lorelei353 Tue 13-Nov-12 13:48:49

I can't believe I only did the one test. I have another one in the cupboard (bought a 2-pack of CB digis).

I think it was because I was a week late, on holiday in Spain, so as soon as we arrived back in the country I did it and it already said 2-3 weeks pregnant so it was pretty decisive. And we took a picture for evidence. Also, we had been up at 3 for a long drive in the dark and then flight back to London, with a traumatic landing and train problems when we landed. We were exhausted, so to then got a positive was pretty emotionally overwhelming. One was enough!

Lorelei353 Tue 13-Nov-12 13:51:42

jojo I have 15 days until my scan!

Oh, and how rude of me, welcome aboard Ali. It's a small and cosy bus. I abandoned the June thread because there were too many people and I couldn't keep up! Small and perfectly formed group here.

LibrarianAli Tue 13-Nov-12 14:16:43

Thanks for the warm welcomes everybody.

I did 3 tests - the first (Superdrug - am convinced they are lucky) when my period was two days late, it was +ve but I didn't tell DH just in case it was a broken one... I did another the next morning, it was still faint but def there. I told DH while we were having our Sunday morning lie in but said that it was very faint and he replied that we must only be having a very little baby then.

I then treated myself to a CB Digi and it was lovely to see 'Pregnant' actually written down, but now the battery has gone out and I can't see it anymore!

I keep meaning to do another test as I'm fairly convinced that the scan people are going to tell me that it's all just Pie.

Ah yes ali that's what I don't like about the cb digital ones. I had to do another frer because the battery ran out and I has to had more proof that I could keep checking

grin at having a little baby.

Welcome, welcome Ali! We are a cozy bus smile

Wow, so sorry to hear about the extreme MS Mrs! Reassuring, but definitely not fun. Maybe some juice to help balance your blood sugars? It's been my saving grace!

Glad you don't have to get your wisdom teeth out pear! Just thinking of sanding teeth down, that still couldn't have been pleasant....

Thanks for the support, ladies. I was just moaning last night while trying to get some documents finished. They are a pain in the a** and take a really long time. Risks are incredibly slim that what I'm studying can happen. It's things I've of course heard about, but getting the gritty details of how and why they happen can make anyone a hypochondriac! Contemplating on just taking a break from school until the baby is here. I'm worried that I'll be analysing everything about my own labor and it won't progress because I can't get out of my head! I'm thinking a chat with my midwife is on the horizon.....

Lorelei353 Tue 13-Nov-12 17:14:01

A break sounds like a good idea trumpets. I just haven't read any of the bad sections of my pregnancy book. I've never been pregnant before at all, so am hoping I can just sail through and the more I know the more I'll stress. If I just act as if my body is just doing what it's supposed to then I can relax.

Sounds like a good plan, Lor!

A break might be good trumpets, I studied when I was pg with dd2, and I can't remember a thing from that year of study. But the fog got me pretty bad. I'm dreading it this time, as my memory used to be really good before DCs.

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 17:47:14

I agree that a break could be good trumpets. I don't think I could study anything that close to home right now.

I have eaten constantly ALL day today. Very bad girl, but staved off further sickness, so all good.

Hideously tired now, however. Early night ahead.

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 18:00:17

trumpets sanding didn't hurt at all. I did ask if it would hurt and he said probably not. Hate the way they can't say Yes or No! I was more worried about my tongue getting in the way! In theory a break does sound good but a chat with your midwife head will also probably help you get through any anxiety issues?!

Nicola better to eat then be sick :-)

Frus and everyone else with children...out of interest what are the age gaps between your children and baby?

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 18:04:52

Maybe, Peardrop. :-) I'll just get fat!!

We've already discussed number 2...I was a bit disappointed to only have 1 this time as I now have to do this again!

I think we will be trying again by the end of next year due to my age. What gap do you want, Peardrop?

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 19:04:53

I don't think I want a big age gap. Mainly think that now because with the way things are I doubt I'll be going back to work straight away. My friend is about to drop and she will have a 22mth gap between her DC1girl and DC2boy. I will be interested to see how that works. I guess you can only tell how you will feel after you have DC1.

For anyone interested I've just put my 12 week scan pics up. MrsBri I'm very intrigued by the shapes in your womb!

However odd this sounds, I was just talking about the taste of ground up tooth confused! Yuckola.

It's great that you're eating Mrs! I've read that morning sickness happens because your metabolism and need for more nutrients and calories increases so much more quickly than your body can keep up with, which leads to an increase in stomach acid-which makes you feel sick. Eat, eat, eat!

My boys are 18 months and 2 days apart, then there will be a 3 year and 2 month gap between my youngest and this baby.

It's tough to decide on whether to break or not....I don't know what I'll do with myself from Jan-this baby's birth. I'm a SAHM who is no longer apprenticing with a midwife at the moment, with two boys in preschool 3 days a week, and then taking a break from school- I'll have to learn how to sew to pass the time or something!

Awww! It's a little peardrop! Very cute.

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 19:11:30

trumpets 18 months...wow I bet that keeps you busy! How on earth do you find the time to keep up with this thread! Do you have good things to say about a 18month gap then?

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 19:12:44

thank you trumpets smile Realised today how apt my name actually is as I am pear shape and I'm going to eventually drop!

Ooh scan pics, very photogenic bean there pear. grin,
I have 2.5 years between dds, (which is quite a nice gap) and there will be a 5yr gap between bean and the youngest.

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 19:34:22

Oh that seems like a nice age gap Frus...enough time to forget the joyful labor experience? Actually don't answer that :-)

Just arranged to call BF tonight for a catch up chat. Going to break the news...eek! So nervous about it because she's in such a different place right now. Really hope pray she has v happy new boyf news to tell me! I just want to be as sensitive as possible about it all but I'm a bit hyper about it at the moment so that's tricky hmm

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 19:49:41

Shapes in my womb?! Should I be worried? :-/

Very cute baby photo there, Peardrop :-)

Race you to baby 2 then?!

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 20:19:34

Oh sorry Mrs I knew after I wrote that you may take that the wrong way :-) What I meant is that you've got a clear zoomed out shot so you can see what's going on around bean rather then just the uterus if that makes sense? Kind of looks like a fancy sculpture. Oh no does that sound worse :-/ I mean it in a nice fascinating way. Someone please pass me the spade hmm

Yeah, that's what people say and I don't consider myself anymore busy than any other mother with two kids. We had some pretty crazy moments in the beginning, but now I feel like they're easier than ever because they are best friends who go off on their own and completely entertain each other for hours on end. I feel like going from 1 to 2 kids will be shocking to the system no matter the age gap is (so I'm excited to just add to the chaos with #3, weeeee!).

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 20:29:50

Ha ha...ah, that makes sense. I wondered if I was odd then!! I think that it is just more uterus less baby in my shot :-)

Did you speak with your friend yet?

Sorry pear I have to answer I just can't help myself I completely forgot after dd1, but when I got my 1st braxton with dd2 I was straight on the phone to best mate, telling her I didn't want to do it again. But that is more because of my birth experience and lack of being able to handle pain. Dd2s birth was much better. And quite funny looking back on it.

I think I will have my work cut out, as dd2 is complex, but she loves babies, and will enjoy helping and having some responsibilities. But at the end of the day a big or a little age gap really wouldn't make a difference in my case, although its good she will be in school.

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 21:11:12

I can't imagine having 3 children, Frustrated! Good on you!

I've just posted a photo of my belly taken earlier (clothed, don't worry!) as we're charting growth. :-)

Aw cute little baby bump mrs grin
I think 3 children might actually be madness, but i figure my life can't get much more manic than it already is. confused grin

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 21:26:31

Did you always want / plan 3, or is it a recent decision?

I'm going to be the size of a house come 9 months!

We had planned 3, but the gap between 1 and 2 was smaller than originally planned, and this gap a little bit bigger, but all is good. Dd1 took over a year ttc, but 2 and 3 were much less.
I think 3 is a good number. And because of the bigger age gap they can be useful and able to help (fetch wipes and nappies). grin

Do you plan on waddling mrs? are you a semi or a detatched? I plan on being a tower block. wink it will slow down.

MrsBri Tue 13-Nov-12 22:38:32

Hurrah for breeding little helpers, ha ha!

I'll be an entire row of terraces! :-) With a massive waddle.

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 23:30:15

Aww look at your baby bump! I'm going to take one tomorrow to show you, fun idea. Although I'm positive mine is just fat because when we hear the baby's heartbeat it's still below my belly button so I can only assume its fat. Or is it our uterus preparing for the baby. TBH I'm a bit confused hmm

Ok, I was on the phone for 1.5hrs hence the delay. Should not have had that 6pm nap as now not tired! BF took it a lot better then I expected. She said she was expecting it so that helps a lot I guess. She seemed genuinely happy for me so that was nice. Feels even weirder telling her. Still feel like I'm making this all up and lying to everyone grin

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 23:32:36

Frus that sounds nice having mini helpers. I'd like 3 too. I'd actually like 4 but I know that's a lot of work and my DH has already said 3 is his limit so we've compromised on that number for now ;-)

peardrop2 Tue 13-Nov-12 23:34:22

So you have 2 girls Frus. Are you hoping for a boy this time then? Silly question I know because what you're really hoping for is a healthy baby!

No worries, pear DH wants 4 just doesn't know it yet. He was a bit reluctant to start trying for this one because we've finally been able to sleep through the night and now we're back at square one at being sleep deprived for a year. Hooray! hmm

We told the boys tonight! My oldest (4) just looked at me and said "Why?" and that was the end of the discussion! I'm sure the questions will come soon enough....

peardrop2 Wed 14-Nov-12 04:28:37

trumpets that's so cute. I can just imagine a 4 year old boy asking why! My 7 year old nephew rang me the other day to ask if we're having a boy or a girl (would have been cute If he wasn't shouting it down the phone) I let his mum explain why we don't know yet. I see your point about two being hard work no matter what the age gap is, I guess only time will tell when it's right to start trying again and as we all know so well it's not like we can pick a conception date!

Jojoba1986 Wed 14-Nov-12 07:08:41

I'd quite like 4 but DH only wants 2 so the plan is to have 2, wait 4 years, & then bully him discuss the idea of more!

I'm watching Hoobs again... Today we learnt about yawning & different ways to make cabbage hoobage more palatable! It'll be on channel 4+1 soon if anyone wants to catch it! wink

I remember my 7 year old niece calling me to retell me that her mum was pregnant: "Jojo, DH, mum's havin' a bay-bee" followed by exactly when it would happen, which hospital & that we should come visit in the hospital afterwards! All in an answerphone message that I managed to record & have saved on my computer! grin

MrsBri Wed 14-Nov-12 07:29:05

I only want 2...unless pregnancy number 2 is twins, DH has no choice as I won't be doing it again! :-)

LibrarianAli Wed 14-Nov-12 07:36:32

I think I'd like two, but we'll see how this first one goes.
I do have a secret hope that this one will turn out to be twins. We're quite late in our group of friends to have a baby and nooone else has had twins (competitive much?!)

Jojoba1986 Wed 14-Nov-12 07:42:34

Oh yes, if this time is twins it'll be 3 for us. Which is really ironic because I always swore I wouldn't have 3, being a middle child!

jojo if its twins which one will be the middle child? Eek twins would make my count 4.

Jojoba1986 Wed 14-Nov-12 09:34:54

The middle child issue won't be such a problem as it was in my family if we have twins. The main problem was that there was 2 years between me & my brother but 6 between me & little sister. 'The girls' were always grouped together which left me playing with toys far too young for me & her growing up too fast. I was very naive for my age which led to bullying issues at school. I can't help feeling that things would've been different if my parents hadn't left such a gap between us! I guess it was more the age gap & them treating us the same that was the problem, rather than it being a middle child thing! Given that there'll be a maximum of 20 months between these 2(/3?) I don't think we'll have that problem! grin

kittykatskumkwat Wed 14-Nov-12 10:11:16

Ahhh pear it's a little baby ( just had a look at your pics) love when you can see a proper face shape!
Nic, that was a really zoomed our pic, very clear though!!
There will be a maximum of 20 months for me to Jojo, would have only had a 16/17 month age gap of I hadn't had a mc but now looking at that fact makes me go eeek!!
I was desperate for another a month after dd was born and from then on but looking back it was because new borns are easy ( I had a good sleeper) when they hit 1you think crap this looking after kids milarkey is really hard! wink not that I'd change it

kittykatskumkwat Wed 14-Nov-12 10:11:51

Oh and welcome Ali! grin
Only a week til my scan!!!

Lorelei353 Wed 14-Nov-12 10:16:08

Loving the scan pics and not at all jealous envy.

Feeling rough as anything today. Went to get my hair cut last night, felt great. Got home and got a whopper of a migraine. Full on aura-type. I couldn't see anything properly for about 40 mins. Popped two paracetamol and got into bed at 8.30 and there I stayed until my alarm went off this morning (with the usual pee and snack breaks thrown in). Headache is mostly gone but feel so groggy.

Really not loving this pregnancy lark with migraines and sciatica thrown into the mix.

peardrop2 Wed 14-Nov-12 10:19:40

Ah kitty I know it's madness! We heard the heartbeat go up to 172 last night. They say google says that a HB over 140 indicates a girl, I wonder how much truth is in that! I am so certain it's a boy with the pizza face, time of conception and love for meat -- although I'm also loving sweets--!

peardrop2 Wed 14-Nov-12 10:21:37

Oh Lor big hugs to you! Hope your day gets better then yesterday. It takes longer to recover from any twinge, headache, icky feeling then normal I'm finding :-/

Jojoba1986 Wed 14-Nov-12 14:35:44

I'm feeling yucky too! My head just feels a bit sore & foggy & my arm hurts. Pretty sure it's a result of the flu jab yesterday! <Whimper> sad I must've been asleep by 11.30 last night & slept for a whole 4 hours, dozed on & off till 6.30, felt sick until I fell asleep at about 12 & woke up half an hour ago before having a sandwich. Really want to go back to sleep now! It's nice to catch up on the sleep I've been missing recently but I wish I didn't have to feel ill to do it!

(Whinge over!) wink

Sorry to hear about the rough night Lor! Hopefully you can get in a nap today!

Also sending a hug out to Jo. Flu jabs really are the devil. Actually vaccines in general. Not looking forward to the whole baby jabs series again. Makes me sad just thinking about it.

peardrop2 Wed 14-Nov-12 15:29:34

I've not been offered the flu jab. Has anyone else?

I've been offered it pear but I'm baby, not actually me not allowed it (crosses placenta) sodding genetics

peardrop2 Wed 14-Nov-12 17:25:34

I guess it's something to ask the midwife in December at my next appointment!

Or just go to doctor and ask them for one.

MrsBri Wed 14-Nov-12 17:55:48

I've not...keep meaning to though.

On a rammed, boiling train having to stand up. Hell on earth :-(

MrsBri Wed 14-Nov-12 18:22:22

Right...flu jab booked for a week today :-)

I hope the train wasn't too hellish for you mrs

peardrop2 Wed 14-Nov-12 19:22:32

Well I would go to GP but I don't know anything about the risks involved so a bit cautious to join the queue hmm

I don't think there are any risks to pg women and unborn babies, I have a leaflet somewhere, but a small amount does cross the placenta, so I can't have it, because DH can't have it because of a genetic condition, and I'm not taking that risk. also rules out gas and air, and consequently a homebirth or water birth. (I can't do it without painrelief)

peardrop2 Wed 14-Nov-12 20:11:22

What? So if you have a flu jab you can't have gas, water or homebath? Or is that just you who can't?

Jojoba1986 Wed 14-Nov-12 20:52:14

It's not a flu jab thing pear, she can't have any of those things because her DH wouldn't be allowed them because of his condition. The baby might have the same condition so anything that crosses the placenta or is risky because of the condition is a no-no!

There are no risks involved with the flu jab other than having a headache/slight temperature for a few days after. There are, however, huge risks to you & baby if you get flu while pregnant! No brainer in my mind! I'd not been offered it but all pregnant women can have it free. It's best to have it soon as prime flu-season really kicks off in mid-Nov so you'll want to get it before flu gets you! Makes you feel pants though so I'd recommend having it on a Friday!

Jojoba1986 Wed 14-Nov-12 21:04:41

pear Just checked out your photos... I love the progression from faint line to little baby! So cute! grin

Yeah pear it's just me. jojo explained it better than I did. There's a huge list certain medical drugs that DH can't have because of condition. We always presume that bubs has the condition, until tested post birth which means I avoid all drugs he does whilst pregnant. He cant have the flu jab, as not tested on his condition, so no proof that it is safe for him. Gas and air is one of the no-no drugs. And since pethadine isn't available for a homebirth, it rules out a homebirth. damned if I'm pushing without pethadine but it is just me.

So the g&a isn't related to the flu jab at all. its just on the list of what I can't have. I'm a awkward mare grin

My midwife said the flu jab is safe when pg, (for normal people) and pg women are on the priority list.

Jojoba1986 Wed 14-Nov-12 21:54:10

Frus You can have pethidine at a home birth, you just have to get it prescribed by the GP beforehand & keep it in the fridge!

I'm sure my midwife said one couldn't do that any more. hmm it's something to ask when I next see her.

Jojoba1986 Wed 14-Nov-12 22:01:00

She lied. I was offered it when I had DS! It's an epidural you can't have, or any kind of assistance like forceps etc!

Jojoba1986 Wed 14-Nov-12 22:06:02

Fourth paragraph

Apparently it's up to the discretion of the community midwife so they might not do it in your area!

Isn't the 3rd paragraph for in hospital, and only the 4th relates to home. Hmm I'm going to be questioning her. I'd be happy at home with my pethadine.

Jojoba1986 Thu 15-Nov-12 03:54:26

Anyone up? Having napped most of the day I can't sleep & have a nagging headache! sad

peardrop2 Thu 15-Nov-12 06:34:25

Ahhh thanks ladies for clearing that up for me! I was a bit confused confused doesn't take much :-)

MrsBri Thu 15-Nov-12 07:15:35

Baby brain kicking in? Mine is appalling!

I'm exhausted already today. Went sleep on the sofa before 9 then was awake on and off from 1.30 onwards :-/ Bloody weird dreams too. They get weirder!

And onto my boobs, as I've not mentioned them recently...they've grown so wide they now impede my arm movement backward and forward!! And yesterday was a growth day as they were hard. We've sussed them out!

Boob growth impeding movement. That doesn't sound good mrs but I think you're right with the rock hard= growth theory.

I haven't slept too good the past couple of nights. Not helped by dd waking on and off all night. I think I will need matchsticks to keep my eyes open today.

Jojoba1986 Thu 15-Nov-12 09:58:37

I don't think my boobs will ever be rock hard after bfing DS, no matter how much they're growing! Don't like the sound of them causing movement problems! Mine only hurt when poked hard at the moment. DS seems to find that the easiest place to lean his elbow while trying to stand up... Owwww! sad

I'm having weird dreams too. Yesterday I dreamt that a male friend & my mum were helping me plan an event while staying at my grandmother's house. It got late so we all decided to sleep there, me & male friend sharing the double bed & my mum in the single bed in the same room. In my sleep I cuddled up to my supposedly gay friend who started kissing me! My mum woke up & kicked him out of the house... I woke up with my skin crawling & feeling physically sick! I shudder just thinking about it! No idea how I'm going to face my friend next time I see him! hmm

kittykatskumkwat Thu 15-Nov-12 10:12:20

Oh that dream sounds nasty jojo, i hate when you dream of people you know,i think aslong as you dont bump into him today you will be ok wink
I havnt had the flu jab yet, keep putting it off as don't think I've ever had flu and it does nothing to stop colds........ Hmm what to do
Anyone tried chines birth chart to predict sex? You use the age you were and the month you conceived to get your gender, aparently I'm having another girl! wink

Jojoba1986 Thu 15-Nov-12 10:26:14

Yeah, by their reckoning, DS is a girl & this one's a boy!

I see said friend every other week when we help out at a toddler group together. I've got no idea if he is gay or not but I think I'll always be wondering now & will be terrified to be alone with him incase he pounces on me! We're usually the first ones there so I might turn up late for a while! Not that I've been for the last month due to illness!

Lorelei353 Thu 15-Nov-12 10:56:50

Good morning.

I feel actually human this morning. Maybe it's just compared to migraine-hangover-yesterday but I actually feel quite sprightly.

I had the flu jab when I saw my GP for my first (and so far only) appointment. The nurse I saw beforehand didn't really discuss it or give me much of an option. She'd the needle out and was lunging at my arm fairly fast! I had intended asking for it anyway though so it's all good. I had the flu about 6 years ago and it was the most miserable week of my life, with the exception of when I got pneumonia a few days later. I'm not taking any chances. Jab me!

peardrop2 Thu 15-Nov-12 12:19:53

Yeah I did the Chinese thing. Says I'm having a girl but I'm 80% sure it's a boy! Really really really hope they can see evidence at 16 weeks!

LibrarianAli Thu 15-Nov-12 12:24:47

Checking in at lunchtime - this thread moves fast!

I've been offered the flu jab but wasn't going to bother as I've only had flu once and I've been more healthy with this preganancy than I am most winters - no colds, sore throats, nothing... I think it's all the vitamins I'm taking! However I wouldn't want to hurt Little Prune so maybe I should. I do work with the public and they're a pretty germ-riddled bunch.

I'm very excited as I picked up my 'Bounty Pack' from Boots and it had some nice lotions in it and handy money off vouchers. I never get anything free so it felt like a real treat (and a reward for feeling sicky and fat)

Does anyone else have a sort of stretchy tummy ache? I'm 11 weeksish and just want to hold my belly up all all time as it's full of a mild, dull ache.

MrsBri Thu 15-Nov-12 12:44:15

Hello all. Glad people seem better today :-)

I'm not looking at anything re sex, however daft, as I'm trying to avoid even speculating about it. We aren't going to find out!

Good news on the home front in that DH has just been offered 30 hours a week doing funerals with a local director. He's done it casually for years for this bloke and the firm his dad works for, so knows what he's doing.

After 4 years of crap, erratic, work doing building work this is a real blessing.

And my dream was more bizarre. I was somewhere in the Middle East. Not sure where but had to go via Lebanon. And we had to escape somebody. Not sure who. But I was bleeding and saying I was having a miscarriage.

Then that dream stopped and I was in New Zealand with a lad I've not seen for years. But we went to Bri's brother's inlaws' house where he turned into Bri.


Blending Thu 15-Nov-12 14:38:39


Sorry I've not posted for a while, I've been lurking, but as I was in a panic about my scan today I didn't want to bring the thread down with my moaning.

Anyway all is good! This morning was an early dating scan, which my Midwife sorted so I didn't need to go private. 2 perfect heart beats seen again, measuring 9+4 weeks! I'm really happy as I'm past the point I had problems last time...my mind had been working overtime! I'm roughly the size I was when DD was 4 months, but not really shocking considering its twins!

So new edd is 16th June, BUT twinnys ignore that for the most part and on average are 2-4 weeks early!

I'm now in my old G cup nursing bras! They went like torpedos, rock hard and huge, but seemed to soften a couple of days ago (Which of course added to my neurotic thoughts!) I was a C/D cup orignially, and a size 12. After DD they went to a DD cup (Eventually, after we stopped BF'ing) but these mammeries are as large as they were at full term!

I think this could be an interesting ride!

Lorelei353 Thu 15-Nov-12 14:41:42

Blending that's great news about the scan. 2 perfect heart beats sounds wonderful x

Jojoba1986 Thu 15-Nov-12 14:57:11

Blending How exciting to see 2 heart beats! My boobs are also as big as they were right after DS was born. And I'm as big as I was at at least 4 months last time! That coupled with severe nausea, exhaustion & dizziness since 3dpo is why I'm convinced I'm having twins too.... Or maybe a particularly mean girl. Girls are evil! wink

kittykatskumkwat Thu 15-Nov-12 15:06:41

Oh blending that's fab news!!!
You shouldn't worry about comming on here to moan or get reasurance, that's what we're here for when you can't divulge in real life!
Interesting talk about different pregnancys and will be good to compare them when we do know gender, I thought as feeling sick this time it may be a boy ( non at all with dd) but have been told by quite a few friends with same sexes there were convinced it was different and felt sicker etc but no!
How can our bodies react do differently to the same thing?!? Baffling

kittykatskumkwat Thu 15-Nov-12 15:09:10

Oh and jeleous of increased boobage after first dc mine shrunk well smaller and have only just got to original bfp level with dd!!

Very exciting blending!

Also good news on the work front, bri. Must take a bit of stress off for you.

The morning sickness has been gone for a full week! So exciting to feel semi-normal again. Except for the pure exhaustion...that's definitely a bit of a hinder when it comes to doing homework hmm.

LibrarianAli Thu 15-Nov-12 17:02:30

Yay! Congratulations MrMrsBri - I bet that's pretty interesting work, does he like it?

MrsBri Thu 15-Nov-12 17:54:49

Ooh, so exciting Blending. :-) Bet you're so pleased?

And don't worry about coming on here and being anxious. That's what we are here for.

And thank you, yes he does kind of like it. Collecting bodies isn't his favourite thing, but there you go! Work has been so erratic recently I think he's just relieved to know what money he will have coming in as it has been touch and go some months :-(

He starts on Monday. :-)

Hey all.
How exciting to see 2 heartbeats blending

I'm having pre-scan jitters.

peardrop2 Thu 15-Nov-12 21:18:12

Evening ladies! Yay congratulations Blending on your two healthy heart beats!! Your scan pic must look very cute :-)

Also, yay to MrsB for good job news on the DH front! Marriage brings good luck ;-)

Finally yay to trumpets for less sickness and more blooming + glowing days :-)

Frus when's your scan? The lead up is harsh. Neves and excitement rolled into one.

On my own tonight excuse for big spoon of Nutella without judgement look from DH

peardrop2 Thu 15-Nov-12 21:27:45

Having lots of twinges tonight :-( probably not helped by wearing tight trousers to work today


pear I've got another week to wait. But I keep getting really weird twinges, which logically is just wind and a lower back ache which is only in the evening, so logically is just my back deciding its had enough for the day but I'm still feeling rather paranoid about it all, even though my logical brain is being logical.

I'm also blooming blooming look like a blooming pizza face [frown] [not fair emoticon] <stomps feet>

peardrop2 Thu 15-Nov-12 21:32:54

Ahh. Have you got a Doppler to reassure you? Wish I could come to your house with mine to reassure you! Maybe this is my new career...Doppler reassurance services :-)

No I haven't. sad I'm pretty sure my back ache is just my back being annoying as usual and it's usually the bottom of my back that goes when it goes, which is a few times a year. I'm just being paranoid.

MrsBri Thu 15-Nov-12 22:55:11

We must share a back, Frustrated, as it is my lower back that goes too. It's already been aching too :-( No hope.

My scan is 3 weeks on Tuesday. Ages away.

Jojoba1986 Thu 15-Nov-12 23:22:53

If you're sharing a back it's no wonder it's hurting! wink

Cheers for your optimism pear smile

Sorry to hear about your back, frus (and the general feelings of unrest). Have you tried a hot water bottle or heating pad? I guess I don't know how you all feel about chiropractors over there (aren't they called "physios"? Can't remember....) but oh man, I am in love with mine! I see her the same weeks that I see the midwife and I feel like I new woman when she is done putting everything back in place. I have horribly lose hip and sacral joints that are very painful in pregnancy, so seeing her helps so much!

peardrop2 Fri 16-Nov-12 06:16:55

Happy Friday ladies! Another day in the world of pregnancy :-)

Mrs & Frus could you two be referred to a physio via your GP? Not the quickest option but certainly the cheapest.

MrsBri Fri 16-Nov-12 06:33:31

My alarm clock chose to go off 10 minutes' late today! Luckily DH has assisted and I'm now back on course :-)

But feeling queasy...fast starts aren't helpful!

MrsBri Fri 16-Nov-12 07:11:22

Oh, and pregnant ladies can't have physio either. My pregnant clients are told they have to wait til after the birth to have treatment.

Not sure about chiro, but you can't get that on the NHS.

I just cope with mine. With a bit of moaning to Bri, ha ha!

Jojoba1986 Fri 16-Nov-12 07:30:52

You can get specific massages for pregnancy... Never had one myself, just noticed a hotel that did them & it amused me! Might be helpful!

LibrarianAli Fri 16-Nov-12 08:26:13

My local hospital offers Aromatherapy massage and Reflexology for pregnant women. It's £20 per hour which is cheaper than usual I think.

I got my scan appointment through - 11th Dec! Feels like such a long time away, I'll be 15 weeks by then. I'm a little annoyed as I've been in the system since 10th October. Anyway, it'll be a lovely Christmas present!

ali have you opted out of the nuchel scan? I thought 15 was too late for that?

MrsBri Fri 16-Nov-12 08:40:59

Ooh...I'm on 11th too, Ali. But I'll be 12+3.

15 is late, isn't it?

peardrop2 Fri 16-Nov-12 08:44:54

I think you can find out the sex at 15 weeks not gender obsessed at all £20 sounds like a good price!

LibrarianAli Fri 16-Nov-12 08:58:07

Ahh, I have opted out of the nuchal test, maybe that's why there isn't such a rush.
Pregnancy seems to be more about waiting than anything else!

peardrop2 Fri 16-Nov-12 09:01:26

Ah ok, that make sense if you opted out. It is the longest waiting game!

Blending Fri 16-Nov-12 09:28:10

Morning ladies.

Another grumpy achy person here. I've got a sore throat and aching all over. I was in bed early again last night before I'm a Celeb, but my toddler had other ideas. She has a sore throat too and kept waking up.

Little Madam, I gave her a bottle of water, and she is more than capable of drinking it herself, but she woke hourly crying , and thrust the bottle at me when I went in the room, insisting I gave it to her.

DH went in until 12, (but I still woke up) then I took over, but I'm feeling pretty crappy today.

Stuck her in front of ceebeebies with poridge at the moment.

Do I feel guilty using the TV as a baby sitter for a 23mo? Not in the slightest!

My tummy is huge and suddenly I cant get comfy in bed.

Off to make some honey and lemon, and take a paracetamol aka home made lemsip!

kittykatskumkwat Fri 16-Nov-12 09:58:07

I feel your pain blending, my dd has had a sore throat/cold and been teething the past 2 nights, dh with his operated arm is in the spare room oblivious and I hear every whimper every few hours, had to get up for an hour at 1 to administer calpol and get a bottle of water then up at 6 for work sad
She's quite good really considering but it's hard!
Sorry to hear of all the aches and pains, I'm worried because I don't really have them but can't wait to feel "normal" again --that'll be another 7 months then--wink

Jojoba1986 Fri 16-Nov-12 10:08:11

My DS was awake & upset a lot in the night too! Not sure if it's a cold or teething but he slept for about 20 mins, woke up crying & then sang in his cot for 4-5 hours before settling for an hour. He then woke up & we had his sad little 'I'm in pain' cry for the next few hours! He had some calpol & is asleep now but cries in his sleep every 30 mins or so! It's heartbreaking listening to it & not going in to him but I know he'll only wake up properly if I do & he's so tired! sad

<Hugs> for everyone looking after a sick DC!

kittykatskumkwat Fri 16-Nov-12 11:03:43

Oh Jojo that's sounds like mine, I think it's the teeth because of the pain cry, she had 3 little blood patches in her cot yesterday where the big ones must be comming through, feel so sorry for her but you can't do anything, I think the same as you, unless I know she's awake and not going to sleep I dont go in as it makes her worse
< hugs for all the babies sad>

Blending Fri 16-Nov-12 14:10:07

DD co-operated and had a 2 hour nap, so I threw together some home-made chicken soup.

We just had a steaming bowlful each and I'm feeling all earth-mother like and smug grin.

The fact we are not even dressed and she is now back infront of the TV doesn't come into it . Nor does the fact I've bribed her with a cornetto so I can do other stuff in peace MNblush

DH has had this cold for a couple of days and when he rang to see how we are, I said he deserves a medal for not really complaining, he said "I'm not pregnant with twins and doing battle with a toddler!" Bless him, he can be a pain in the arse, but occasionally he says the right thing that means he has noticed!

sad So sorry to hear about all the poorly and teething little ones! My are complete maniacs this morning! They won't hold still long enough for me to even give them a quick hug.

Jojoba1986 Fri 16-Nov-12 15:24:52

We're cold-y over here! Lots of snotty sneezes! DS seems to have perked up but my head is foggy & I just feel a bit yuck! I need homemade chicken soup too! sad

I'll have some homemade chicken soup too please. smile

Lorelei353 Fri 16-Nov-12 17:07:24

I don't have scold but the soup sounds lovely!

I took today off work just to hang out by myself and chill. Went to Debenhams to get some new bras and came away with some lovely, comfy and supportive bras - in a 34F! I was 32E before I got pregnant but still, that's pretty big! Still I recommend their bras.

I got mine from debinhams too lorelei their padded underwired t-shirt bras are so comfy.

Lorelei353 Fri 16-Nov-12 18:10:03

I got two-pack of soft, lacy ones. I figured I didn't need more padding!

Good point lorelei I work with teenagers, need padded on cold days, not good otherwise.

Lorelei353 Fri 16-Nov-12 18:59:00

Ha ha frus. I understand grin

I'm glad you do lorelei it could have come out sounding extremely wrong.

Even despite the growth spurt these ladies have experienced....I still can barely fill a C. blush. Probably from feeding the other two for a grand total of 4 years....they just suck it all outta you, I tell ya.

4 years is impressive trumpets I wanted to get to 2 years but mine both self weaned before then.

Ugh I have a headace and super-thirst on today. Than and my refound ability to not be able to last more than an hour without needing a wee. I think that shall be my superpower - the power to drink gallons of water in one sitting and still be thirsty.

In the plus side depending on how you look at it I have an ache down my right thigh, so am now certain that my back ache is the start of sciatica again but at least I can stop be paranoid about it ring anything else.

Le sob! Nausea-free for the past 10 days....until right now! 2 hours before the babysitter gets here and we are heading out for DH's birthday. <wail!>. This isn't fair! I'm so complaining right now, I thought I was all done with this!

MrsBri Fri 16-Nov-12 22:54:06

Told you we shared a back...my sciatic nerve went this evening, Frustrated, but on the left. It hurts. :-/

Nightmare, trumpets. Hope it buggers off.

Jojoba1986 Fri 16-Nov-12 22:54:10

Sounds like we're all feeling a bit worse for wear! Chicken soup & relaxing weekends all round!

DS had a good afternoon sleep but has just woken up grizzling again! sad We're being really mean & leaving him to settle himself but he's just lying there whimpering! Poor little boy!

Lorelei353 Fri 16-Nov-12 23:17:07

Ah so I was just an early starter with the sciatic pain. Sorry ladies. Welcome to my world. sad

Jojoba1986 Sat 17-Nov-12 06:46:08

Watching The Hoobs again & the question today is 'why is Tula being so clumsy?' My first thought was that she must be up the duff! I can't stop giggling & trying to decide who's her hooblet-daddy! grin

Jojoba1986 Sat 17-Nov-12 06:48:18

(I'm thinking it's Ivor, Groove seems to be cross-dressing today...)

Hoobs the daddy jojo?

Jojoba1986 Sat 17-Nov-12 09:24:27

Lol! grin It's ok, she was being clumsy because she was rushing to finish her painting! No hooby-babies!

LibrarianAli Sat 17-Nov-12 09:29:18

You can tell who already has kids on this thread. I just had to go and Google 'Tula + Hoobs'!
We are visiting our fabulous child-free friends this weekend (actually they are us 3 months ago but w better jobs!) I didn't think we could excuse me not drinking for a whole weekend but was a bit nervous about telling them, but DH slipped it really casually into a conversation about someone else not having a baby, he just said "Well, we are" and they were speachless & then v happy.
I'm so glad it went well. They're the 1st people we've announced to and we do so much together but usually it centers around fine-dining, good wine and cocktails! Now I can go shopping to Bicester Outlet Village (our planned outing while the boys are at footba) and dont have to pretend to buy normal clothes, I can buy smocks to my hearts delight

Jojoba1986 Sat 17-Nov-12 09:35:02

Actually Ali I discovered Hoobs looong before DS came along! I had depression a few years ago & was mostly nocturnal & often still awake when The Hoobs came on in the morning! It's fab! grin Enjoy your smock-buying trip!

Evening all. How's everyone doing this evening?

merrygiant Sat 17-Nov-12 21:02:38

Evening! Frus I'm doing great this evening, we had our scan today and all was well! Annoyingly, I was not far enough along to do the Down's screening, but saw baby do a massive buckaroo flip, which was so cool! Gonna go back next week for a second go at the measurements, FX.

Welcome onto the bus Ali, nice to have you along for the ride! It's so fun telling people isn't it? We did the text rounds this afternoon, although my Mum is in deepest darkest Wales today and so didn't get any of my texts. Instead of ringing me, she took this as bad news and spent the whole afternoon panicking, poor thing. Still, nice to be able to put her mind at rest when we finally hooked up.
And told my bro too, who was really sweet and happy for us. Its really starting to get real now. Saw friends who are due in December last night and they've got the nursery/pram/wardrobe full of ironed babygros - the whole works. OH trying on their sling with a doll in it was a sight to see!

Roll on 2013...

Jojoba1986 Sun 18-Nov-12 05:14:35

Wow, everyone was quiet yesterday! We took DS over to my parents' house yesterday & have left him there for 24 hours! It's the first time we've left him overnight & while I know my parents will look after him & he probably won't even notice, I still can't help feeling a little anxious! blush

jojo it's so hard the first time isn't it, even when you know they'll be fine. I hope you got a lie-in and didnt automatically wake up early.

merry I'm very jealous of your scan, and pleased that all was okay. grin at your DH carrying a doll in a sling.

It is very cold and frosty in the park this morning. But I still can't convince a shivering dd2 to go home and come back later when it's warmer (and we have gloves) so dds are squealing and shouting and waking all the locals up.

MrsBri Sun 18-Nov-12 08:31:56

You'll be popular with the locals, Frustrated...but they're probably the kind who moan if kids stay indoors all the time too!

I'm fed up...sleeping like utter shit and nausea almost all the time are dragging me down :-( And my boobs are clearly planning world domination, the amount they're growing. We are measuring them later. They are now getting in the way in bed. Time was I used to be able to get my arm under them to get into a comfy position. Not now :-/

Yay for the scan, Merry :-) I want one of those sling things. Was it good?

Jojoba1986 Sun 18-Nov-12 08:45:30

MrsB I'm feeling moany too! I managed to go to sleep earlier than usual but woke up at 3.30. Felt fine when I woke up but now my feet are icy & I feel sick! DH seems to be refusing to wake up & take care of me! sad

MrsBri Sun 18-Nov-12 09:21:18

I've had to get up and sort breakfast myself too. He isn't that hungry and not inclined to get up it seems.

I'll make dinner now, as we are having lamb casserole. Gets it done while I still have some vague impetus to do it.

Nausea has passed for now...wonder how long for!

Put your cold feet on his back jojo that'll wake him up.
I'm not sure if I'm going to do the sling thing this time, dd2 wouldn't like it

Sorry you're feeling rough mrs

I'm feeling rather sicky today.

MrsBri Sun 18-Nov-12 10:18:38

How's your sciatic nerve, Frustrated? Mine is very painful :-/

Sciatic nerve isn't too bad today thanks *mrs8 I'm sorry yours is playing up. My niggles are all round the front today.

Hello bus,

<pokes head round bus door and smiles>

Hope you don't mind me popping by to say hello, and merry, so pleased for your scan news. Sounds like this one might be a gymnast?!

Hope you are all doing well despite the discomforts x x

MrsBri Sun 18-Nov-12 11:32:22

Don't be daft...it is lovely to see you.

How are you doing? I hope DH is spoiling you.

Pop back whenever you feel up to it. xx

Hey thund <waves>

Hi ladies <waves back and takes a doughnut>

Yeah I'm ok thanks, dealing with it all, trying to fight the new levels of exhaustion but looking forward to popping back on at some point with some of my own good news, hopefully before you all pop!

merrygiant Sun 18-Nov-12 14:23:51

Hi Thunder! Lovely to hear from you. I've only just seen your PM, thank you. It was really odd to see the wriggler move from facing one direction to the face completely the other way, doing a huge buck in the middle! Can't yet feel any of it, not sure if I'm looking forward to that bit - it must be so peculiar.

I for one certainly don't mind you popping by to say hello. Last pregnancy, I was on a babycentre forum, and hung about lurking for a while afterwards. But eventually it felt OK to leave it behind, as it were. Whatever's right for you I guess, but you're welcome aboard anytime!

What a beautiful wintry day it is, just been in the garden watching OH rake leaves, realising that there is shitloads a bit of tidying to do before it gets really cold. Maybe I'll leave that for the week after next, which I have annual leave for grin

I had to buy some of that Lansinoh nipple cream today, as last night my poor right nipple got trashed. I have eczema but have never known an itch like this! Still, if they can tough it up through this now, then a baby hanging off them in a few months will be a walk in the park wink

Here's a few snuggly blankets to brighten and warm up the bus, have we all got mittens and hats at the ready or shall I lay those on too? Frus it sounds like you have them, but not always on your person?!

I only wear gloves when dog walking. But you've just reminded me that I need to find their gloves.

Jojoba1986 Sun 18-Nov-12 15:10:42

Hi thund! <waves> You absolutely must come back & tell us the moment you have good news! Take your phone with you when you next poas so we can be the first ones to know! grin

Jojoba1986 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:22:58

Ridiculous hormones. DS just returned from his overnight stay with my parents & I feel like crying because he wasn't bothered that we weren't there! I wasn't expecting anything else because he's such an easy going child & I know that according to attachment theory it's a good thing if they're not bothered but I would have liked a little more enthusiasm to see us, not just an eagerness to get on with playing with the toys he hasn't seen for 24 hours! hmm sad

peardrop2 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:23:53

Evening ladies!

Thunder lovely to hear from you! And yes please do pop in when you want and share your happy news with us soon :-)

Sorry to hear a few of you have had blurrr weekends but I'm sure all the rubbish symptoms will disappear soon FX!!

merry lovely news about your scan. So nice to see them move about isn't it! Even though mine wasn't so willing to move takes after us both there!

Hope you enjoyed your lamb stew mrsb :-)


Hi there girls, thanks for the welcomes.

Yep I will definitely let you know as soon as I have any good news.

I'm not lurking here, just keeping an eye on you all to make sure you're all ok.

Take care and look after yourselves x

Evening pear, jojo everyone else grin

jojo it's your hormones, I'd pay someone to take my 4yo overnight how old is your DS? Has he reached the clingy stage yet? It is good that he is comfortable with being left and knowing that you will return.

I have succeeded in seriously reducing my ironing pile, painted my nails, and am currently watching im a celebrity woo get my exciting life. <sniggers at self>
My cramps have developed into quite obvious round ligament pain. So I'm happy. Unfortunately I'm sure it comes before bumpage growth. Eek.

Hey ladies! It's been a really busy weekend. Finally having a few minutes to just sit down and put my feet up for a bit. DH's birthday was yesterday so he got a lay-in, breakfast, fancy lunch and dinner whilst I had the boys (which was exhausting on it's own, on top of pregnancy). Today was much more exciting! Squeeeee! Just got home from a breech birth seminar with JANE EVANS! She was absolutely lovely to listen to, had some wonderful stories about births she's been to and just normalised breech birth in a way that I feel so much more comfortable if I run into one. Saw a lot of birth videos and kept thinking "oh shite, I'm gonna have to do that again." She's kind of like the British Ina May Gaskin.

Jojoba1986 Mon 19-Nov-12 06:23:03

Hoobs first question today: 'What do mums & dads do?'

I've not heard of Jane Evans, will definitely be investigating her. I'm a big fan of anyone who suggests it's possible to have a natural breech birth!

Frus DS is 13 months & so far hasn't had a clingy stage at all! He's a v independent child. He used to cry to be put down as a newborn! I was looking forward to being the only one who could stop the world ending but I'm beginning to think he's never going to let me! sad Hopefully the next one will be a bit more affectionate!

MrsBri Mon 19-Nov-12 07:08:26

Morning all!

How is everyone? I did bugger all this weekend which was nice. Slept like shit though, so still exhausted! Bit better sleep last night, but think I was too tired not to.

Work day = increase in MS though. Nice, not! At least I get a lie in on Wednesday as I'm having my flu jab just before 9, so don't have to get up until 7.45. Lovely stuff. :-)

Quite crampy the last 24 hours. Shows things are growing, I suppose. My boobs appear to have stopped for the time being, however. Thank god!

Jojo You've for a while before he goes clingy, I think it's about 2 when it hits. although dd2 hasn't hit that developmental stage yet

mrs increased ms on workdays is not good.

12 weeks today.

peardrop2 Mon 19-Nov-12 10:23:30

frus yay for 12 weeks!! Very nearly scan time :-)

I'm feeling better then last Monday but I'd still love to be at home instead :-/

Librarina Mon 19-Nov-12 11:37:58

Hello! It's me, Ali but with a slightly new name.

And Hello Thunder, it's nice to meet you (I lurked on the previous threads so you are familiar to me even if I am new to you)

I have good news regarding my scan (which was going to be on 11th Dec), my lovely Midwife has found me one on the 29th Nov which is 13+2 by my reckoning, and, more importantly, is Only Next Week... YAY!

My new work diary for 2013 has arrived and as I'm transferring info across I keep realising things I won't be around to do because I'll be on Mat Leave... which is weird and exciting.

Hope you're all feeling well. My boobs were ridiculous this morning, I thought all that was supposed to calm down in the 2nd Tri but they're as big and hot as ever, I'm still tired and WHERE'S MY GLOW!!

Blending Mon 19-Nov-12 11:56:11

Jojo, my DD is an independant thing and hates being cuddled and picked up, but when she hit 18 months she started to get all affectionate with snuggles and kisses. Now she hates to miss out, and when she sees DH and me hugging she runs over arms outstretched to join in. She also realised if she shouts "NEED a cuggle!" she'll get picked up from her high chair/cot/etc! (then wriggles away to get on the floor!)

Thanks for dropping in Thunder, Its good to know your doing ok x

As for everyone else , it sounds like a busy weekend all round.

Getting over this silly cold, and neither of us had any energy so had a chippy tea on a Sunday! The height of lazyness! All three of us went to bed before 8, but then I snuck down to watch the end of X-Factor- OH BOY! Glad I did as it was all over facebook this morning, and it wouldnt have been the same shock value (By the way I'm a scouser and NOBODY I know has voted for Mr Baloney, we are all ashamed that the cheesy-wotsit coloured one is representing Liverpool grin)

Anyway back on topic, I am now in my maternity jeans! OK they are the ones I thought were useless last time as I grew out of them too quickly, but they are soooo comfy! I wouldn't have gone out and bought them, but I was getting fed up with the elastic band through the button hole trick, and as they were in the loft already...'tis a slippery slope towards floatty smocks and such like!

Lorelei353 Mon 19-Nov-12 12:39:37

So I had my booking-in appointment with my midwife this morning. Really lovely women (and lovely student) and nice clinic too. Got my green book and all my info and gave loads of blood.

Thunder So nice to hear from you! Pop in as often as you'd like to say hi.

However - MASSIVE TMI ALERT - I've just got into work and gone to the toilet and there was quite a bit of cervical mucus/discharge. It was kind of yellowy/green, and possibly a bit brown. Is this normal? I did have sex yesterday which was the first time in weeks (just not been feeling up to it) so could it be related to that? I don't want to over-react and call midwife, so thought I'd gather thoughts here first. I'm 11 + 1 now.

Jojoba1986 Mon 19-Nov-12 13:04:18

It's perfectly normal for there to be more/different cm after sex. As long as it's not bright red blood it should be fine! I'm sure the midwife would be more than happy to reassure you if you need it though! smile

Blending, it's nice to know we might still be in with a chance to have a few cuddles from DS! Everyone told me he'd go through a clingy phase at about 8 months so I thought we'd missed it!

Lorelei353 Mon 19-Nov-12 14:32:19

Thanks Jojo.

I don't have any cramping and it wasn't bloody. It was egg white in consistency but just yellow/green and brown so looked quite odd. And a big glob came out too. I think as long as I don't get any more I'll leave it, but if I do I'll ring my midwife.

Typical that this happens an hour after I've left my appointment!

Librarina Mon 19-Nov-12 14:48:11

While we're on TMI - we too DTD last night for the first time in ages... it was lovely!

Lorelei353 Mon 19-Nov-12 14:57:49

I hear you Librarina (like the new name by the way). I've been missing that closeness of late.

Well at least some of us are enjoying it.....I feel completely turned off by DH at the moment and want nothing of it! He just seems hairy, sweaty, smelly to me. No thanks. I feel bad...but I can't help it!

MrsBri Mon 19-Nov-12 15:13:15

Ah, trumpets, I'm with you.

DH smells and tastes different and I'm finding it really hard to deal with :-(

I've not had sex since we found out and don't want to either! Poor DH.

Lorelei353 Mon 19-Nov-12 15:19:14

That's how I've been feeling up until now. Haven't wanted anything to do with him. Am taking return to form as a sign of the end of my first trimester symptoms. Nausea's also massively improved. Fatigue still an issue..zzzzzzzzz

Thanks Bri and Lor. The nausea is gone, now it's just a general aversion to the poor chap. hmm. Even snuggles and kisses are feeling too much when I just want to sleep!

Librarina Mon 19-Nov-12 16:11:13

I had the whole DH aversion thing too - he smelt like a beast to me, and he kept breathing near me and I felt too squashed. In fact for the last couple of weeks he was evicted to the spare room as I'm just so hot and restless at night.

Which is why I was so glad when the (ahem) desire came back... complete with a bubble bath and candles.

And while I was still hot and restless in the night, at least I felt fondly towards him again!

kittykatskumkwat Mon 19-Nov-12 16:44:10

Hello everyone, finally had a chance to catch up, poorly dd all weekend which I feel I'm getting and so busy!
Lor- on the cm, I think I posted on the early bus about it, definatly green yellow in colour and I worried it was mucas plug comming away but I think it's fine and has come sort of once a week since, any spotting is quite common after sex! Although I'm with the others and havnt done it once blush so tired I can't even describe plus with dh arm not sure he's bothered at the mo, I was I bed at 7:30 last night, it's getting rediculous, I can't describe how exhausted I feel
I'm with you Jojo on the lack of clingy dd although at the min she's uber cuddly with my mum and makes it clear she's loving her more, hugs and crying when she tries to go, when I come back from work it's like she's not bothered ( or punishing me!!) hard when your the one up at night with poorly screams!!sad
Scan on Wednesday!!!
Nice to see thunder- hopes she gets to join us very soon again xx

trumpets and mrs I'm with you both on the DH aversion.
I'm so tired, and clostraphobic and, well, icky. such a passion killer

trumpets and mrs I'm with you both on the DH aversion.
I'm so tired, and clostraphobic and, well, icky. such a passion killer

Oops double post.

Phew, well at least I'm not the only one!

MrsBri Mon 19-Nov-12 17:51:35

Nope...we all have DH aversion! :-/

I seem to have an aversion to being awake too. Zzzz so tired.

Jojoba1986 Mon 19-Nov-12 23:16:03

I'm having similar aversions too! DH can't do anything right, especially if he's just woken me up! I seem to be exhausted just before teatime so end up falling asleep so DH wakes me up to ask what I want, decides for me because I'm too sleepy to answer, wakes me up with a bowl of cheesy pasta shoved under my nose & then gets stroppy with me when I feel too sick to eat it! Anyone fancy being woken up by the smell of cheese? <Shudder> I've been incapable of being pleasant in the evenings for several days now & he still doesn't seem to get that constantly insisting that I must eat & asking what I want just annoys me & makes me think about food which makes the nausea worse! Grr! sad

Jojoba1986 Mon 19-Nov-12 23:19:09

Needless to say, there's no chance of DH coming anywhere near me! Unless he wants a black eye!

MrsBri Tue 20-Nov-12 04:23:19

Actually, I'm loving cheese, so that would be awesome.

And I think that's sweet of your DH. Some would let you starve! He's also right that you need to eat.

I generally decide what we are eating but DH makes it, unless he doesn't know how!

Cheesy pasta would make me gag at the minute too jojo even though I love cheese but shoving it under my nose wouldn't be a good move. I know what you mean though, I'm hungry, but DH cooks and the smells just make me feel ill.

Anyone else struggling to get up and going in the morning? I think I'm going to go back to bed after the school run.

And I have the start of a stinking cold today too. Feeling rough as houses.

MrsBri Tue 20-Nov-12 07:38:56

As much as I struggle to get going, I have to leave the house at 6.45 and get back about 18.30, assuming no delays! I'd love to be able to go back to bed, especially after a night's sleep like last night. Or non sleep.

Food doesn't make me sick at all. Food actually stops me from being sick, so I embrace it. Then throw it up, ha ha!

Chemical smells like perfume, deoderant etc make me gag.

Already later for work than anticipated, thanks to Merseyrail. I'm hoping my day's bad luck is done now!

I have to say that I try to be really grateful to DH, even if he's getting it a bit wrong. As it could be worse, he could not help at all. I appreciate his help when it comes down to it. Even if he smells and tastes funny!

Jojoba1986 Tue 20-Nov-12 08:17:10

Of course I appreciate his help. What I don't appreciate is him trying to force feed me when I'm feeling sick purely because he thinks it's the appropriate time for food. I feel ill in the evenings at the moment & eat at other times but that's not good enough for him because he's a bit ocd & likes things to happen at the 'right' time. The main reason he insists on making me food is because he thinks it's food time, regardless of how I'm feeling, & not because he's trying to be helpful.

I'm the same jojo I can't eat in the evenings. although I can stuff my face the rest of the day. luckily DH doesn't cook for me unless I ask him too as he knows this, but he still asks, and still cooks for himself, so I get the smells.

Jojoba1986 Tue 20-Nov-12 11:44:26

DH seems to have decided that because I'm not cooking at all that means he can cook all the things I don't like, like Bolognese sauce, which really stinks! He then complains about having to cook different meals for different people... I have gently pointed out that I don't want him to cook for me! hmm

Librarina Tue 20-Nov-12 12:14:52

I've been eating a lot of breakfast cereal in the evenings as I've not really fancied much proper food. Poor DH has been having various things on toast, but I did brave pasta the other night and really enjoyed it. It turns out that I'm not anti-food, just anti-cooking it.

On a more exciting note, I think I might be 12 weeks today. I feel like there should be some kind of parade/badge/special 2nd Trimester song... but all there are achy sore boobs and a slightly uncomfortable 'fanoir'.

peardrop2 Tue 20-Nov-12 12:24:32

Lib congrats on reaching 12 weeks :-)

I've been fortunate to enjoy most foods apart from fish as I've really gone off all thoughts of having fish which isn't great for baby but I'm taking omega 3 pregnacare to help make up for it. I am still having to eat lots of apricots, current buns, raisins and other things to help my long-term pregnancy battle which is a hassle but I've now excepted it as the norm!

14 weeks.

<pokes head in again to cause a bit of mischief>

nic does that mean your marriage isn't erm...consummated then? wink

Blending Tue 20-Nov-12 12:30:16

Going back up thread, I have the opposite problem to DH aversion! I'm not supposed DTD until 12 weeks due to a slight bleed and a previous MC, but this week I've been waking up after the most incredibly erotic dreams ready to jump on him! I figured that everything is fine now, and that I have had a couple of scans which were good, and nice firmly closed cervix, it should be OK (Plus I will burst trying not to which is obviously not good for the babies wink)
I can't be the only one on here can I?

No proper food for me in the evenings, but I'm constantly snacking on dry-ish non-smelly stuff like popcorn, cheese and crackers, crisps etc which helps keep away the nausea.

I'd hate to be woken with something stuffed under my nose though Jojo! I know he's concerned for you but they can make themselves a bit of a martyr sometimes can't they! (Actually I have an angel for a DH, but he still manages to annoy me from time to time, I think its part of being preggers)

Kitty, I get upset because DD doesnt want to come home from nursery and screams when I try and get her in the car. Long gone are the days when she cried "Mama!" and came running towards me full of joy. Now she bolts to the far side of the room! I tell meself its because Im like a comfy old pair of slippers, and yes it was me that was up 4 times last night with her not her nursery teacher!

Haha that's awesome Blend! I'm missing those pregnancy hormones that I had with the other two pregnancies. Even more reason for me to think this is a GIRL. Roll on 2nd tri when I'm not dead tired and suffering from stinky things. grin.

mmmm, it's 8 in the morning and cheese pasta sounds fabulous right now! My nausea has left the building, but the absurd cravings for random foods at all parts of the day has definitely moved on in!

MrsBri Tue 20-Nov-12 14:13:21

Dear oh dear, Thunder!

We had half sex the morning after the wedding, so I think insertion counts to consummate!! I didn't want to continue though, so we stopped.

Bored of giving sympathy blow jobs now though!!

Lorelei353 Tue 20-Nov-12 14:32:28

Ha ha Thunder. This is why we're glad you're still popping in. We'd totally missed that!

MrsBri We'll let that count grin

Kitty thanks for your comment. I knew someone had posted on one of the other buses about having cm like mine but couldn't find it/wade through the threads. I've had nothing at all since so I'm going to just assume it's all fine.

lorelei I remember that thread, but don't know which one it was.

peardrop2 Tue 20-Nov-12 18:02:07

OK so I've officially changed surgeries and made my next appt with new midwife in December. They don't have any flu jabs in stock so I'll have to wait until December...seems a bit pointless then doesn't it?

MrsBri Tue 20-Nov-12 18:10:40

At least it counted :-) Don't think he'd bugger off and get it annulled though. I hope!

And better safe than sorry, Peardrop.

Mine is tomorrow. I get a 2 hour lie in. Bliss. (Though no doubt I'll be up at almost the usual time due to my shit sleeping capacity!)

pear you can get them at some chemists, I know out morrisons instore chemist does them.

Blending Wed 21-Nov-12 05:43:38

I missed that last post from Thunder! I actually did LOL when I saw it.

Right I'm easily confused, so is there a post with EDD and scans on it for everyone?

Well awake from 4, can't get back to sleep.

Has anyone ever used a pregnancy pillow? I read all the reviews but most of them who have posted them after the first couple of weeks say they go flat. Ideally I'd like a goose feather one, so you can fluff it up.

I can't believe I'm getting uncomfortable already, its ridiculous and its going to be a looong pregnancy.

On the upside my MS has nearly cleared up although Im very sensitive to smells still. DH asked me if some chicken was on the turn and to me it smelt rancid, and I was wonderng how on earth he thought it could possibly safe to eat!

kittykatskumkwat Wed 21-Nov-12 06:36:30

Lol at thunder grin !!! Poor Nic, I think if your updiffed people will assume consummation, plus I agree it's insertion that counts, if we went by orgasm some women might say they were never married after 20 years wink ( that's not me btw lol) but sympathy blow jobs!!! you have more sympathy then me, I'd say I deserved the sympathy!
Thanks blending on the dd story, glad to know its not just mine who aparently doesn't love me! I've worked out she develops a loyalty to whoever she's been with that day and only wants them, it was me yesterday, the only time it doesn't work is nursery ( we are made to feel guilty about leaving her there!)
No problem lor- I have had it once or twice more but doesn't seem to mean anything
Scan today so nervous! Plus found out my mum has told while family I'm pregnant, apparently I'd like to wait til after the scan doesn't mean that and they were asking my sis today if it was common knowledge now angry more pressure on today!
On positive note last 2 nights slept threw and no toilet trips- does this signify the start of 2nd tri?! 12+5
P.s I have heard the higher sex drive meaning boys too?!?
P.p.s I now have dd cold sad
P.p.p.s sorry for long post! ( and frus is it you tomorrow too, so close!!) x

kittykatskumkwat Wed 21-Nov-12 06:37:57

Oh and had to add, I've not gone off food at all blush I'm starving In the evening and all day

MrsBri Wed 21-Nov-12 06:46:34

Good luck today, kitty :-)

We haven't told our parents yet, so no news spreading going on. Are you annoyed? I would be!

I've not gone off food either. I've also barely needed a wee at night. Maybe my bladder isn't getting the pressure somehow? Or I'm just used to holding it in as I tend to at work as I'm too busy for a wee!

Jealous of the scans...mine is 3 weeks yesterday! Nervous too. Feels so long after the one we paid for!

kittykatskumkwat Wed 21-Nov-12 07:12:46

I am abit anoyed and will make a comment but more because I feel so worried anyway, what if its bad news then now there's a mountain of people who know my woes!
My mum is bad for that type of thing although it's because "she has a good feeling this time"hmm
She's known since the beginning and sister for about 4 weeks, we hadn't told everyone else but I guess it would be d day today and what will be will be!

MrsBri Wed 21-Nov-12 07:18:08

Yeah...difficult to be philosophical though, isn't it?

The odds ARE good for both of us as we saw wriggling beans with strong heartbeats at our scans. Still hard to be positive when there's people like poor Thunder about. :-/

Sometimes mothers can be liabilities, even if that's not their intention!

Morning all. kitty i would be fuming, I also lie about my due date, and tell everyone that's later --dc1 was very late and the constant "have you had the baby yet" drove me mad yep my. Good luck for today, yes my scan is tomorrow. So hard to keep quiet about it, especially when I look pg.
I need a bump pillow too, I can't get comfortable either, --can't understand how I slept on my front last pg, Im struggling to get in a position I can sleep in.
I have sicky coldy illness too. Bleugh.

Jojoba1986 Wed 21-Nov-12 07:46:38

I've been dealing with people sharing my news too, although not my mother! Bless her, it's so difficult for her to keep quiet given that she sees my SIL regularly & she's due in Feb! I'd only told 2 friends but another friend was getting really worried about me being ill so one of the original friends told her & swore her to secrecy. Unfortunately she's a bit of a (self-proclaimed) stereotypical American - she tactfully congratulated me in a very loud voice while there was someone who didn't know standing nearby. She means well, she just can't keep quiet about anything! sad

Good luck today, kitty! Enjoy sharing your exciting news with everyone, even if they already know! wink

I slept relatively well last night! I didn't have a nap at all yesterday, managed a few mouthfuls of dinner before feeling so sick I couldn't stand being in the same room as food & went to bed early(ish)! I did wake up once but dozed until DH appeared with breakfast! Here's hoping it's because I'm 11+5 & I'm getting to the energetic, good sleep phase!

My scan is in 5 days! Eek!

Blending - I've not tried a proper pregnancy pillow, last time I ended up with 2 normal pillows under my head, one between my legs & one under my bump with a cushtie to cuddle! I've had one between my legs since about 6 weeks - it really helps with pelvic pain!

MrsBri Wed 21-Nov-12 09:09:17

Flu jab done :-) Now safely on the train to work. Boo!

Not feeling as pregnant today. Suppose I should be grateful. My morning cup of tea still had me running to the loo though. I'll keep it down one day soon, I'm sure!

Yay for flu jab mrs.
jojo there's an energetic good sleep stage? Can you point it in my direction please, my body seems to have forgotten.

Jojoba1986 Wed 21-Nov-12 10:30:01

Yeah, it lasts about 36-48 hours! Everyone gets it at some point during their pregnancy but it's relative to the severity of your normal symptoms! wink

relative to the severity of your normal symptoms that sounds awfully official jojo grin so does that mean that my getting off my arse and hoovering this morning was my energy burst? Darn it, now I feel like I've wasted it. wink

Lorelei353 Wed 21-Nov-12 13:33:19

Good luck with your scan toady kitty. FX for strong little heartbeat.

Mine is this day next week. SO far away!

We still have managed to tell absolutely no-one. I don't know how we've done it. Tomorrow I am telling my best friend though as she's off to India on Saturday for two months - the first month spent yoga teacher training - so I won't be able to reach her easily. My mum and sister arrive for the weekend on Friday, so we'll tell them too. All three can keep a secret so should be okay. Everyone else will know next week!. I can't wait to be able to talk about it (assuming all goes well at the scan).

Lorelei353 Wed 21-Nov-12 13:33:59

toady Kitty?

I clearly meant 'today, kitty'. You are not at all toad-like.

Jojoba1986 Wed 21-Nov-12 14:04:27

Frus it's the physicist in me... She sneaks out occasionally! blush

I feel dreadful! Started feeling sick so I lay down, fell asleep & woke up feeling so dizzy! I've had a few cookies & I'm hoping it's just low blood sugar but right now I can't stand up & poor DS has just woken up & wants his lunch! I was really hoping I was over this phase! sad

I have heard that a higher sex drive can indicate a boy. I think it was in the "Orgasmic Birth" book that I read that....(highly recommend it!).

A huge good luck on your scan! It's so exciting getting to see your little one!

I tried a pregnancy pillow with #1 and it just seemed to make me all tangled up and frustrated in the middle of the night whenever I wanted to turn over. I'm just a nest-builder with like 5 pillows taking up all of DHs side of the bed too during pregnancy grin.

Since tomorrow is Thanksgiving at my parent's house everyone will definitely know. There is no hiding this bump! I look about 15-20 weeks pregnant instead of 11+3....even my mum said that she couldn't believe how huge I look (thanks mum, love you too).

Sorry to hear you're still feeling so sick, Jo sad. I SO feel your pain!

kittykatskumkwat Wed 21-Nov-12 16:22:29

Scan went well gringringrin
She said it was a wriggler, 13wks today and 29th may so 2/3 days more then I thought and what they said at 9 wk scan hmm I'm not bothered as this date counts and I'll happily be moved up
A big relief all round
Thanks for the good luck msgs even if I am abit toady grin
Sorry your still feeling sick Jojo, my tiredness literally lifted last night although it may be a one off, hope it ends for you soon, it's hard at the best of times without a littlun to look after aswell x

Jojoba1986 Wed 21-Nov-12 17:05:01

Awww a wriggler! That's fab kitty! It's so lovely to know that they're not only ok, but energetic too!

I know of 3 other mums in our church who've announced they're expecting recently! Looks like it'll be at least 4 babies born in the space of 2 months! DS was one of 13 in his school year, most of which were 2nd or 3rd babies so I wasn't expecting to be part of another baby-rush! How exciting! Our creche is going to get huge! grin

Yay! For wriggler kitty
I'm now wondering where my dates are going to put me. I'll soon find out. Not long to wait now. <attempts to convince self>

smile kitty

Fx frus

Sorry for sickness jojo it's the twins

MrsBri Wed 21-Nov-12 17:47:28

Excellent news, kitty :-) So exciting.

Glad it all went well. you can now (re)tell everyone!

kittykatskumkwat Thu 22-Nov-12 07:21:25

Good luck today frus! X

MrsBri Thu 22-Nov-12 07:36:46

Yes, good luck Frustrated :-) You're thinking twins, yes? Here's hoping!!

Sssh. I'm trying to ignore it. I very much doubt it's twins. I'd be more than happy with one little healthy bean. I've got ages to wait.

Do I need a full bladder?

And I'm currently enjoying my high from dd2 going into school happily and with no fuss. (1st time ever!!!) proud mummy alert

Jojoba1986 Thu 22-Nov-12 10:40:45

What time is the appointment? Yes, you need a full-ish bladder but don't make yourself uncomfortable! You want to be able to enjoy it without having to worry about how much you need to wee! grin

Been for a wee. Going to save my top-up drinking til I get there and have to wait for ages
Its soon jojo I'm trying not to think about it. and the bloods they do at the same time it's not working btw (the not thinking about it)

Blending Thu 22-Nov-12 11:52:19

Sounds like a fantastic scan Kitty!

Good luck Frus, yep full bladder, dosen't need to be bursting though.

So if high sex drive equals boy, I guess as I seem to be in over-drive, that could mean 2 boys!

There was a baby rush here 2 years ago. DD is 2 tomorrow, and in our close of 20-odd houses there were 6 babies born within 6 weeks of each other!

We did have an electricity cut and loads of snow 9 months earlier...

One little bouncing bean. grin

grin frus x

MrsBri Thu 22-Nov-12 12:48:26

Yay, Frustrated. :-)

Lorelei353 Thu 22-Nov-12 12:54:11

Yay Frus. Another healthy little bean to add to the bus's collection! grin.

Jojoba1986 Thu 22-Nov-12 12:56:27

Yay! Congrats Frus!

Yeah frus grin what's the due date then??

Oh I ve named changed in honour of the new bean, but I can still be kitty x

Hello. Thanks ladies.
Dates have been moved forwards, so 12+6 today. Due 31st may. Was jumping about all over the place, and flipping over. Sonographer was really cheery and even put it into 3D mode which was amazing.

Are you having kittens then kitty? grin

Ha ha no but my daughter is kitty, we have 3 cats so it's only right this is the new kitten in our house grin
Yeay for jumping beans and may babies grin

Lovely news frus!!

Thanksgiving here today in the States, so I'm very thankful for maternity trousers with elastic waistband for eating loads of delicious food grin.

I, ehem, retract my statement about aversions to DH....that has turned around quite quickly we feel like newlyweds. Hurrah for pregnancy hormones!

Librarina Thu 22-Nov-12 15:17:09

Hurrah for frus and her amazing dancing bean! and Happy Thanksgiving Trumpets, I am mightily jealous of your turkey and your pumpkin pie.

It's nice to have some good news, I've had a horrible couple of days. My fanoir wasn't feeling right after Sunday nights love-in (sorry if this is TMI) and by Weds it was quite clear that I had some kind of Thrush-type incident.

So, I phoned the MW today who said that Canesten would be fine (despite the leaflet in the packet saying that it wasn't) so guess what I'm doing this evening.

I feel so sorry for myself. We'd barely done it since I got preggers and the one time I do, it breaks me! DH is now firmly banished to the spare room and I'm mainlining yoghurt.

Happy thanksgiving trumpets
Now I just fancy a huge thanksgiving dinner... <salivates at the thought> have elasticated waistband ready. grin

peardrop2 Thu 22-Nov-12 21:00:44

Yay to happy beans kitty and frus grin Lovely lovely news!

Happy thanksgiving trumpets!

peardrop2 Thu 22-Nov-12 21:39:31

MrsBri Did you have any side effects from the jab or was all OK?

Jojoba1986 Fri 23-Nov-12 06:22:39

12 weeks today, 3 days until scan! Eek! My new discovery is that motion sickness wristbands help. I now have very un-subtle dents on my arms!

MrsBri Fri 23-Nov-12 06:32:46

No side effects yet, Peardrop! We shall see though. Probably happen over the weekend if they do happen :-/

Can safely say that my ms hasn't stopped. Forgot to take my meds last night, and now can't currently move from the bathroom. Ugh.

Librarina Fri 23-Nov-12 07:04:35

Oh poor you frus. Can you take the meds now?
Hope you feel better soon.

MrsBri Fri 23-Nov-12 07:12:47

Oh no, Frustrated. Hope it eases soon. Can you take the meds now? Is there somewhere you can put them so you won't forget to take them? All my tablets are in the kitchen, in sight at all times.

I've been lucky with my 'throw up and move on' type sickness (like this morning). While I've had awful nausea some days, it doesn't translate into actual sickness much.

My boobs truly are taking over the world...squeezing them into my bras and tops until after my scan though. Roll on 11th!

Boobs to take over the world grin

Unfortunately I can only take them at night because they knock me out. So I just have to suffer today.

Jojoba1986 Fri 23-Nov-12 09:11:56

Aww Frus I wish I could give you some of my pills! They work within 30 mins & don't make me sleepy. Taste horrible & get stuck to the back of my tongue though so they're not all good! Look after yourself today! and stop ruining my 'everything's dandy after the scan' delusion! wink

Hey jojo keep a firm hold of that delusion. It is fabby doosy after the scan just my body hasn't figured out that I've had the scan grin

MrsBri Fri 23-Nov-12 11:51:11

Second trimester starts at 14 weeks...not after the scan!

Sshh mrs don't spoil the delusion illusion wink

MrsBri Fri 23-Nov-12 12:13:05


Hope you're feeling better.

We have a sickness bug going round work. Fx I don't catch it.

peardrop2 Fri 23-Nov-12 12:42:10

mrsbri coat yourself in that hygiene gel :-)

The Doppler confirmed early this morning that baby pear is finally moving towards my stomach! Finally! I've managed to sleep through the night all week now...pure bliss! However, second trimester has not wiped out my pizza look which is very disappointing. Still waiting for the glow!

peardrop2 Fri 23-Nov-12 14:29:47

Has anyone noticed the brown line yet? DH noticed mine has appeared this morning. He seemed quite concerned lol Men!!

I don't get it pear my friend got it really dark.

Lorelei353 Fri 23-Nov-12 15:45:50

Brown line? What brown line?

I got to tell my best friend last night which was SO exciting. She's off to India for two months today so I wanted her to know before she left. Then my mum and sister tonight. Everyone else will have to wait until after the scan next Weds.

Is anyone else really bored of eating? I'm not eating a lot at any one time but have to constantly graze. SO bored of it. Will this bit go away after 1st trimester?

MrsBri Fri 23-Nov-12 17:51:09

Yeah, Peardrop, slight brown line already. DH thinks it is ace! But he's just praising me / everything baby-related constantly! :-)

I don't know lore I'm a natural grazer.
The line is the one some preg women get that runs up the middle of your belly.

It's called a linea nigra. Some women get them and some don't. Kind of just depends on your skin tone.

Mine gets very dark! Takes a couple of months to go away after the baby is born. There's a very slight one starting already for me too.

I didn't get it either, how strange we all are!

Jojoba1986 Sat 24-Nov-12 12:12:33

I'm feeling un-pregnant today. sad Can't really explain it, just don't feel like it's happening! hmm 2 days until I can find out if everything's ok!

merrygiant Sat 24-Nov-12 16:09:09

Yay for happy scans Frus and Kitty grin grin
Yay for my flippetygibbet, who we've had the good luck to just see wriggling about again. 12+1 and due 7th June. Hurrah!

Sorry to hear you're not feeling the preggers vibes today Jojo, I'm sure its just one of those 'let-up' days when the symptoms seem to have faded and you're left feeling vaguely normal. It'll probably be back with a vengeance tomorrow.

Gotta drive halfway across the country tomorrow to see family, in this gorgeous weather. Deep joy.

I don't have a linea nigra yet either, but in a boob update: they are growing and for the first time I actually have what you might call a cleavage, wahay!

Jojoba1986 Sat 24-Nov-12 16:23:33

I'm due June 7th too! It'll probably change on Monday though!

It's not that I feel even remotely normal, I still feel ill, just not pregnant! confused

Jo I'm due 3 days behind you and I haven't been feeling pregnant for a while. A bit disconcerting....but I borrowed my best girlfriend's (who is also a student midwife) doppler and there was the heartbeat, clicking away.

So exciting news....our furnace went out. Woke up to a lovely 60 degree house with it being 23 degrees outside. We were shocked to wake up at 8:30 and have both boys still in bed (probably because they were freezing the minute they got out!) and our noses practically frozen. Cue 200 dollars to have someone come around and check it out....but not until 4 this afternoon. Joy! hmm.

peardrop2 Sat 24-Nov-12 23:48:03

How can you feel sick but unpregnant? Surely ms = pregnancy unless you've caught a bug JoJo?!

Jojoba1986 Sun 25-Nov-12 00:37:53

I don't know, it doesn't make any sense! confused blush

Morning all. trumpets I hope you have heat.

jojo is it prescan jitters,

I have a headcold and feel rough, and haven't been able to shake it off, on to of the fact that I'm constantly knackered.

MrsBri Sun 25-Nov-12 11:04:19

My symptoms have dropped a bit today, but I generally feel better at the weekend when I don't have to leap out of bed at 5.55!

Very snotty though. Think my flu jab is taking effect.

Wading through the housework now...just the kitchen to go. After a sit down!!

Jojoba1986 Sun 25-Nov-12 13:10:54

It probably is a pre-scan thing. I've been trying to convince myself that there's only one so I won't be disappointed if it's not twins & maybe I convinced myself so well that there's now no babies at all! grin

Definitely still getting symptoms though. I had to help out with the 19 under 3s at church today which involved wiping snotty noses & ignoring people changing their DC's stinky nappies all while trying to hide the fact that I was gagging! Oh, & someone ate a banana. I didn't see who it was but I could smell it! angry How dare people eat such vile things in my presence?! wink

I'm also eating now. But only carrots. Lots & lots of carrots. I think I'll be turning yellow soon! grin

Hope you both feel better soon!

peardrop2 Sun 25-Nov-12 14:36:28

Is anyone managing to drink 8-10 glasses of water a day? Seems like a lot :-(

MrsBri Sun 25-Nov-12 14:52:37

I do on weekdays...I generally have a pint of water before I leave the house (thought this depends on whether I throw it up again at the moment, so it has reduced to about half a pint to prevent vomit!). Then I have about 2 litres at work, then at least a pint of squash in the evening.

I also have 2 cups of tea and 1 or 2 small glasses of fruit juice.

At weekends, I just don't seem to drink as much at all. But I'm not captive at my desk in the same way!

peardrop2 Sun 25-Nov-12 14:55:40

MrsBri can I borrow you to come and help me bring that much! grin I drink 5 glasses in the day and 2 in the evening. At weekends I fail to drink more then 4-5 glasses in a day. Maybe this is why I'm suffering so much today :-(

MrsBri Sun 25-Nov-12 15:05:33

It is difficult at home. I struggle.

I have a litre bottle on my desk and just keep refilling it, which makes it easier at work.

I feel your pain as I suffer a touch with constipation, but nothing like you do. Apricots really worked for me, though I know they don't for you.

peardrop2 Sun 25-Nov-12 15:09:31

Apricots worked at the start of this roller coaster nightmare but I think my body quickly rejects things from working because hot cross buns used to save me but not this weekend :-( If anyone has any remedies for constipation that doesn't involve eating fibre (raisins, apricots, mangoes, orange juice etc) drinking more water, lactoluse or Fybogel please tell me your secret!

MrsBri Sun 25-Nov-12 15:11:17

Apparently it is evil, but maybe you've now hit the desperate measure of prune juice?

peardrop2 Sun 25-Nov-12 16:09:58

Yeah maybe I have sad Time to go back to Holland & Barrat shock

Librarina Sun 25-Nov-12 18:08:30

I've not been about for a bit cos was feeling proper sorry for myself and was convinced that icky Thrush would jeopardise the baby, I guess I'll find out at the scan on Thursday (I'm another one who's convinced it's all going to be a terrible misunderstanding!)

Anyway, just wanted to suggest bran flakes or all bran to help with constipation. I think Bran Flakes taste slightly nicer but neither are what you'd call delicious!

peardrop2 Sun 25-Nov-12 19:41:22

Thanks Lib I'll give that a go :-) Hope time doesn't drag too between now and Thursday for you! And I'm sure everything is just fine in there!

merrygiant Sun 25-Nov-12 20:03:44

A cigarette always used to get my bowels moving perfectly in the morning wink

Kale will get things moving very quickly (you can throw it in soups, smoothies, eat it sauted with garlic and onion and have an egg on top...possibilities are endless) plus it's a superfood for pregnancy! Either that or Chia seed pudding (you can find a recipe online), which I think actually tastes really good!

MrsBri Mon 26-Nov-12 07:06:54

So, a meal of All Bran, with prune juice and a kale smoothie for Peardrop? See if that has the desired effect!

I'm not feeling too bad today, so far. Bit queasy, but not quite enough to be sick (though it wouldn't take much persuading!).

Finally having my scan 2 weeks tomorrow. Feels so far away, yet it is only 4 weeks after the private scan.

If I had a doppler I think I'd be obsessed! But I'm going to take the advice of my midwife friend and not buy one. I'm very obedient!

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 09:54:44

Glad you're not feeling as bad today MrsB! It seems your ms has joined me for the day! I feel dreadful! So far I haven't actually been sick but I've come v close! Probably has something to do with my scan being in an hour! I don't remember feeling this nervous last time! confused

peardrop2 Mon 26-Nov-12 10:03:32

Wow lucky me what a meal to look forward to :-) All good suggestions though so I'll start to introduce them in my diet this week...can't wait!

Time is seriously dragging...probably for everyone too! It doesn't help that I realised this morning that I have to reach January 1st to get to the half way point. 20 weeks just seems so long away! I seriously hope Xmas festivities speeds things up!

peardrop2 Mon 26-Nov-12 10:04:26

Good luck JoJo hope you have a lovely scan :-)

MrsBri Mon 26-Nov-12 10:09:19

I wouldn't say I was feeling good, Jojo...came VERY close to throwing up on the train this morning. Still hovering close to vomit.

Hope your scan goes well. :-)

Not sure it'd be great to eat everything at once, Peardrop, don't want a, ummm, dramatic purge!!

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 10:31:18

I might need to steal some of those suggestions! Who knew that eating 2 carrots a day would cause problems?! Nearly passed out on the toilet just now! Had to lie on the floor until I felt up to crawling back to bed! Not what I need this morning! sad

Good luck today Jojo, sorry you feel like crap sad x

Librarina Mon 26-Nov-12 11:01:41

Hmmmm, the image of a 'dramatic purge' is going to stay with me all day! smile

Is there a health food shop you can get to MrsBri? I wouldn't recommend them for actual sickness as I think I'd punch anyone who tried, but I've been eating some ginger sweets called 'Gin Gins' which have been very helpful for keeping nausea and quesiness at bay.

They might have something to help with the other end too. I seem to remember my Mum having senna pods and licorice root when I was a child.

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 12:31:11

Everything's good! Just the one little wriggler! Still not convinced there isn't another one hiding behind #1! They had much more of a problem getting measurements than they did with DS! It's got to be a girl. wink


Yay jojo

So does that mean I'm having a boy since it was good and lying perfectly for measurements?

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 13:24:49

Yes. That's exactly how it works! grin

Have you compared your photo to the nub theory?have you heard about the nub theory lol I've spent far to long analysing obsessing!

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 14:45:52

No nub visible. It's nowhere near as clear as the one we had with DS! sad Couldn't see anything in DS's either - he had his leg in the way!

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 15:05:06

I've uploaded the photo for anyone who's interested! (At least, I think I have!)

I don't think it's public Jo. There isn't a hyperlink under your name.

Holy smokes! 12 weeks today! Can't believe it.

Leaving for England in 23 days. That means I have: 3 classes to finish in 14 days, packing for 4 people, finishing my Christmas shopping to bring gifts over, two midwife appointments, 1 chiropractor appointment (my favorite!), and all of the piddly bills, tying up lose ends, and buying random things. Oy, I feel tired just looking at the list.

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 15:23:08

Should be working now...!

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 15:24:33

It's definitely a girl. She's got a hand bow on her head!

peardrop2 Mon 26-Nov-12 15:31:13

Aww JoJo it's a baby :-) It looks big or is it because the picture is zoomed...it's not easy to tell! I take it you would like a girl then if you have DS already.

peardrop2 Mon 26-Nov-12 15:34:09

Don't panic JoJo just looked at mine again and mine is very zoomed out which is why yours looks big :-)

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 15:39:02

I think it is quite zoomed in, they didn't comment about it being unusually large! I always wanted 2 boys but I'm convinced this one's a girl! Don't like girls though. I've always found it easier to relate to blokes! I suppose I wouldn't mind buying a few dresses & playing with a little girl's hair but I hate the thought of dealing with puberty! I was a nightmare! blush

peardrop2 Mon 26-Nov-12 15:56:26

No sorry it was just me comparing it to my picture. I would really like both although I am convinced its a boy. I always wanted a girl and told everyone so until literally the day I fell pregnant when I started having a strong desire for a boy too which is handy (and bizarre) because I really do think its a boy. I do feel that I would be happy with either. Only 8 days until I hopefully find out!! Woop woop!

Your right Jojo no nub but if you go by the skull theory girls have a flatter forehead and pointier chin and yours is rounder and more defined like mine this ofcourse could be bulk shit wink
Ooohhh exciting pear, I think it's natural if you want a certain gender to convince yourself your having the other just incase, I did it first time

I'll try and do mine later and you can all have a guess although I think boy too

It is a cutey though bow and all grin

Love your pic jojo
It's the same size as mine.

Put mine up now too.

MrsBri Mon 26-Nov-12 20:16:56

Both so cute...I have scan envy! :-/

ive put mine up too I think but its the wrong way round- side ways for some reason!
frus- thats a really good pic too, very clear but still no nub to guess at!

Aw kittens little hand by face. Got to be a girl. I reckon mine is a boy because it had its arms behind its head. just watch us all get proved wrong wink grin

jojo I wanted to play with little girls hair, I have 2 girls who hate having their hair brushed.

mrs not long until you have yours.

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 20:28:39

Right, I'm guessing Frus is having a boy & Kitty is having a girl. Anyone else want to join in the guessing game?

Jojoba1986 Mon 26-Nov-12 20:29:41

Heehee... X-posted but with the same guesses! Interesting!

MrsBri Mon 26-Nov-12 20:30:27

Two whole weeks tomorrow :-( Boo!!

And I hated having my hair brushed too!

Right, so it's hands by face = girl.
Easy to take measurements = boy.

What else?

Ahh your the first to say girl smile
I like that it's still 50/50 getting anoyed with people telling me I want you to have a boy or your definatly having a boy etc ( why do you want me to have a boy? Surley it would be nicer for me to get what I want?!) or am I just pregnant and unreasonable?! Lol

peardrop2 Mon 26-Nov-12 20:58:14

Frus an kitten cute scan pics :-)

At scan for dd2 they said it was a girl and DH went "oh darn it I wanted a puppy" it was so funny. The look on the trainees face was priceless as she tried to decide whether it was appropriate to laugh.

And I'm sure for dd1 whenever anyone asked if we knew what i was I said in all seriousness "kittens" . didnt actually know despite asking, as she wasn't being cooperative that day, (neither was the sonographer)

I don't actually care what I'm having any more, also know as not getting hopes up as long as its a baby and healthy. But want to find out in order to prepare (and decide on name).

I think you should tell them it's kittens kitty grin

peardrop2 Mon 26-Nov-12 22:20:17

Sorry to change the subject but did anyone else know that hair cream removal is a no no? I found this out yesterday after applying it weeks ago. Not sure what to use now as I'm not a fan of home waxing. Salon waxing is fine but I'm trying to cut down on luxury salon visits like at the moment :-/

No idea pear not one that I've come across, give me a decent razor any day

peardrop2 Mon 26-Nov-12 22:38:45

Razor would be fine buy always leave a rash on bikini lines blush

Do you wear bikinis in this weather? wink

MrsBri Tue 27-Nov-12 07:05:10

I don't think you're left with many choices, Peardrop. :-/ I just use a razor...and the bikini rash fades quickly for me. Especially if you moisturise after.

Frustrated, nothing wrong with being neat and tidy all year! :-)

Not feeling as pregnant today, but think that's normal into the 11th week. Got the uterus stretching sensation still though. It's so unpleasant! :-/

Tiny bit queasy during breakfast, but hoping I've turned a corner and my breakfast will remain fully within from now on!! :-)

peardrop2 Tue 27-Nov-12 08:58:28

Hah hah yes I wear bikinis all year round shock DH does not appreciate the gorilla look even when preggers grin

Think you're right Mrsb it's a razor or home waxing.

It won't be long now until ms will be a thing of the past for you all soon. Yay! Can't believe your coming into 11 weeks, so exciting to think how far we've all come! I'm looking forward to reaching 4 months! Can't wait to start feeling fluttering to make us feel more pregnant grin

I look like a gorilla again after 4 days so dh used to it blush had a wax last time ( first wax) and I swear it was so bloody painful couldn't do it again so stuck to shaving even as I went into labour as heard they dry shave you!!!
Thanks frus, I think the kittens answer would be funny, I don't mind what it is this time but get anoyed when people tell you with such certainty like they know for definate off a feeling plus like my dsis and mum wanting a boy as she has a ds ( is it wrong that although we'd love a boy especially dh that I'd love a dd so mine can have a sister!)

kittens they definately don't shave you in labour. <rolls eyes> gorilla muff on way in gorilla muff on way out wink I think they've got better things to do than shave gorilla muffs

peardrop2 Tue 27-Nov-12 09:27:22

Crossing legs at the thought of dry shaving!

Jojoba1986 Tue 27-Nov-12 09:33:26

Crossing legs at this whole conversation!

I've tried shaving once or twice but I end up so itchy I can't stand it, no matter how much I moisturise. I used to use the HR cream on my legs but it never seemed to work very well for me & I always ended up shaving afterwards anyway, that was before I started getting what looked like a heat rash whenever I used it. Don't even talk to me about waxing! <Shudder>

I'm only going by what my hospital said although maybe its only if you need stitching wtc but when I went to the antenatel day they made us pick objects out of a bag and see if we knew what they were and what they were for like a ventouse ( funnily they didn't show forceps!!!) and one was a razor and that's what they said they did!!
Needless to say when my waters broke I jumped in the bath and blindly shaved hacked myself!

Jojoba1986 Tue 27-Nov-12 09:37:42

I was stitched after having a bad 2nd degree tear but nobody shaved me! Maybe they do a bit of trimming for c-sections. I'll ask my mum sometime - she's an obstetric theatre nurse so really ought to know such things!

Lorelei353 Tue 27-Nov-12 09:55:05

Congrats on a good scan jojo. So exciting.

I had a fab weekend. I finally got to tell my mum and sister who were over from Dublin for a few days. It was so fun. They were both madly excited although my mum kept crying. Happy tears though.

Tomorrow morning is FINALLY my scan! I'll be 12 + 3. I can't wait. Couldn't sleep last night thinking about it so god knows what I'll be like tonight. Just hope everything's okay!

peardrop2 Tue 27-Nov-12 09:57:14

I'm sure that kitty is right and that some hospitals dry shave in necessary situations and some don't. Not every hospital has the identical procedures on basic matters hence why you hear of friends having different hospital experiences...my guess anyway!

Jojoba1986 Tue 27-Nov-12 10:16:16

What time is your scan Lor? We expect good news by lunchtime at the latest! I know what you mean about not sleeping. The night before my scan I woke up so many times! Last night, however, I only woke up a couple of times just to turn over & went straight back to sleep again. Best night's sleep I've had in ages! Try having a nice relaxing bath & getting to bed a little early so you can give yourself as much time as possible to try to sleep!

Did anyone know there are 3 ways to calculate the length of the trimesters? I just found this website, if anyone's interested. I'm going by gestation dates which gives me 3 days before I'm into the second trimester! Everything will be fine after that. It's absolutely impossible to feel ill during the second trimester. Ignores friend with HG throughout pregnancy grin

Lorelei353 Tue 27-Nov-12 10:28:48

It's at 11.10 so should be in the office and online just after lunch.
Bath sounds like a good plan actually.

peardrop2 Tue 27-Nov-12 14:34:31

Lor how did it go?

How's this for a f'd up pregnancy dream:

So, all of my ex boyfriends were in it and it was set in something like a detective tv show-like "Law and Order" and it was just ridiculous! They were all together, some of them the bad guys and some of them were detectives (who knows what I was doing in the stupid dream). I ended up kissing one of them, there were car chases, LOL it was so crazy! Thank goodness for alarm clocks. Can't stop thinking about it today though....

Lorelei353 Tue 27-Nov-12 15:34:45

It's tomorrow pear.

peardrop2 Tue 27-Nov-12 16:45:01

Oh sorry Lor had a baby brain moment!

MrsBri Wed 28-Nov-12 07:08:47

Morning all :-)

How are we today? I'm a bit more queasy today (after feeling like I was actually going to be sick for most of the night :-/). Ah well, have to cope, ha ha!

Had a rare getting up for a wee too last night. After sleeping better for a couple of nights, I had a shocker last night.

Hope everyone else is better today.

Good luck today Lor :-)

Good luck lor x

peardrop2 Wed 28-Nov-12 10:06:52

Yes good luck Lor again ;-)

Exciting news from my end. We did our usual heartbeat check last night and for the first time we could tell that baby pear was moving about a lot. DH knows the exact spot he normally finds HB, 1inch directly below my belly button but this time when he went there he found the HB and then it would disappear and come back...like it was doing laps :-) Sorry after writing this I realise its not actually very exciting news for anyone except me! Is this what life has come to? Hah hah grin Oh well at least I'm not announcing this on FB!!

Jojoba1986 Wed 28-Nov-12 12:23:37

Awww! Little swimmer! Our Lickle Pickle was moving around so much during the scan. As soon as they started trying to measure her she turned her back to us! She wasn't doing laps though! You must have an especially lively one!

Come on Lor, come back & tell us all about it! grin

Lorelei353 Wed 28-Nov-12 13:46:52

Hi. I'm back! Sorry, went for lunch with DH as we were finished sooner than expected. Thanks for all the good luck messages.

All great. One little heartbeat thumping away. Little one was wriggling every time the poor sonographer wanted to take measurements. I couldn't stop giggling. So weird to see it kicking and moving around and being a proper little baby and thinking 'that's in me!'.

Feel completely elated! grin

merrygiant Wed 28-Nov-12 13:52:06

Yay Lor, so pleased for you and your wriggler. Its wonderful isn't it? Did your dates change much?

It's so great to see so many happy scans on here recently. Well done us!

Does anyone else feel like they're starting to show a small bump? I thought it was just the usual podge that goes if I stand up straight and suck in my abs. But this doesn't suck in anymore?!

Lorelei353 Wed 28-Nov-12 13:55:06

Dates didn't change. She agreed I was probably 12 + 3 which is what I thought I was. She gave an EDD of 9th June, whereas the midwives/GP had said 10th but that's nothing really.

Get to tell my dad and brother tonight (since Mum and Sis found out at the weekend) and my DH's family, then we'll start telling other people in the next few days.

I couldn't stop looking at the pics. Had to leave them at home so I didn't just take them out at my desk!

Lorelei353 Wed 28-Nov-12 14:03:36

Oh, and NOW I can shop for clothes - first on the list, maternity skinny jeans! I hadn't wanted to tempt fate by buying things before now.

Very exciting new Lor! It's crazy how much they are moving around and we can't feel it yet.

Pear if you listen really closely with the doppler, sometimes you can hear little thumps or almost like static sounds and that's the baby kicking at the doppler waves. It's my favorite thing when listening to other mum's babies smile

Hope you're still feeling rested despite the uncomfortable night, Bri. Feeling better today?

Jojoba1986 Wed 28-Nov-12 14:56:30

Yay, Lor congrats! smile

I feel dreadful. I've got a headache, feel breathless & feel really hot! Of course DS has chosen today to play up with throwing his food & banging his tray & just generally being awkward! I've had to pop him back in his cot with a few toys just so I can get some peace! He should be going to sleep soonish but really doesn't seem sleepy at the moment! Hmph. sad I seem to have suddenly reverted to not being able to drink water without feeling sick but I'm forcing myself to because I feel dehydrated, despite actually having drunk more than usual today. I'm definitely having a lie-down-and-cease-to-exist moment! I'll stop whinging now!

Librarina Wed 28-Nov-12 15:02:46

Hello everyone, Lor your scan sounds lovely. I've got mine tomorrow and am a mixture of terrified and excited.

Are you all 'out' with your pregnancies yet? I've told a couple of close friends and my boss, but I made a joke about 'In my condition' at work today and someone asked me what condition that was, and I couldn't keep it in anymore so I imagine it'll start filtering around now.

Lorelei353 Wed 28-Nov-12 15:14:07

I was the same Librarina. I felt quite nervous this morning but felt more excited by the time I got there - seeing all these other couples around being excited and a few coming out and grinning while staring at their photos! I felt quite emotional actually.

I thought I would burst into tears as soon as I saw the little one and a heartbeat but held it together. I had a few tears at the end. My DH struggled ab it though. It was a hot room and I think the relief, and stress release and the reality of it just hit him.

merry I'm huge.
lib all out of the bag here.

Right ladies; where and when do I get a matb1 form?

MrsBri Wed 28-Nov-12 17:54:14

From your midwife, probably after your 20 week scan. :-)

And yay to Lor!! Your DH sounds lovely. :-) So pleased for you.

And even more full of scan envy! 13 days til mine :-(

Peardrop has her next one before I get my first proper one!

Congrats lor, sounds wonderful. If you want to put your scan picture on so we can have a coo!
Good luck tomoz lib, I'm sure it will be great!
Dont worry Nic it will come round soon enough, I'm defo considering a sexing scan in 2 weeks, I'm so impatient too lol
Can't believe 14 wks today!!

MrsBri Wed 28-Nov-12 20:35:33

Ha ha, Kitten :-) I'm really hoping to resist the urge of a sexing scan!

I am considering saying I don't want to be tested for Down's, etc, as I don't think I'd get rid of the baby anyway, so I'm not sure I'd want to know. I'm not sure. Still got a couple of weeks left to discuss it with DH and see what he says.

Cuteness of the day: Ds#2 (2.5 yrs) told me that he has a baby in his tummy and it gets drinks from it's "binkle cord". Made my heart melt! He's so serious about it as well.

Librarina Thu 29-Nov-12 06:40:04

Oh Trumpets that is cute! Cheered me up a treat on this morning that I can't sleep.

Why does insomnia strike on the day I have a lie in?
My lovely boss said I didn't have to go in to work this morning before the scan appt. I think she knows I'd be utterly useless!

Lorelei353 Thu 29-Nov-12 10:08:41

good luck today Librarina. I'm sure you'll get a lovely little heartbeat too.

Thanks everyone for the congrats. Such fun telling people now! Hoping to tell work today if I can get my manager and head of dept. in the same place at the same time.

bring that's SO cute. When my sister was over at the weekend she had her little one with her (2 yrs and 10 months). We didn't really tell her that I was pregnant as we didn't want her going home and telling my Dad or anything, but out of nowhere she told me that she's a big girl and wants to have a baby in her tummy. So cute.

Jojoba1986 Thu 29-Nov-12 13:10:56

Have you had your scan yet Lib?

I love the things kids say! smile

Well, I have a model fetus and placenta complete with umbilical cord (stupid expensive thing I had to buy for school) and the boys play with it and tell me all the parts. Only a midwife's kids I guess...

Sounds frustrating Lib! I hate when that happens. Hopefully you get some great photos from the scan!

Lorelei353 Thu 29-Nov-12 15:03:58

God, I'm such an idiot.

I just told my manager and head of dept. that I'm pregnant and burst into tears before I could get the words out. I'm so embarrassed blush. I'm not feeling very well (rotten headcold) and was nervous about telling them and it all just spilled out through my eyes.

My head of dept. jumped up and gave me a hug and laughed off the tears. He was really lovely about it. My manger just looked at me like I was mental and said 'ok'. Nothing else. He's such a joyless jerk.

MrsBri Thu 29-Nov-12 18:03:32

Oh no, Lor! Ignore him...men are useless!

Awesome toy, trumpets. :-)

Has anyone felt movement yet?
I swear I just felt a flump, I was lying on my belly and had a definate flump in the right area. grin

MrsBri Thu 29-Nov-12 19:47:04

That'll be baby flinging himself around while there's room! :-)

Jojoba1986 Thu 29-Nov-12 19:52:33

Yeah, I've been feeling the occasional flutter for a couple of weeks now. They're getting stronger & more kick like just recently! I was 17 weeks before I felt anything last time!

Not me sad and have honistly layed still thinking can I?! But no nothing, didnt feel anything last time till 19 wks either so not really too surprised!
Hope lib is ok, hate when it takes a while for people to update I start panicking

Jojoba1986 Thu 29-Nov-12 21:31:18

Me too, kitty, I keep checking to see if she's come back! Do you think one of us should pm her or shall we just wait & see?

peardrop2 Thu 29-Nov-12 21:32:05

I have so much I want to comment on today but I'm really struggling to remember :-/ yay for the happy scan Lor :-)

I woke up this morning with terrible burping like something is stuck in my throat. I had this at the start of the 1st trimester. I don't think it's heartburn although my throat feels a bit burny. trumpets is what I'm describing heartburn? I really hope it goes tomorrow because its a real pain and I've totally lost my appetite!

I think maybe wait till tomorrow Jojo, hopefully she's just been busy celebrating and telling people, hope so, it's so nerve wrecking this growing babies milarkey!
Thank goodness for the weekend tomorrow

Librarina Thu 29-Nov-12 21:59:05

Hi, sorry I'm late - although it's nice having people to worry about me. Scan was lovely, DH & I both welled up! I was glad they were running 30 mins late cos I really didn't need a wee when we got there, but by the time I went in, I got praised for my lovely full bladder!

So, I couldn't really see cos my eyesight isn't great, but DH saw the heartbeat and I def saw a little baby sitting up, and wriggling a bit. Sonographer said it was bonny and doing everything a baby of that gestation should. Dated me as 12.6, so I was only 3 days out, which isn't bad on a 56 day cycle!

Anyway, I've popped the picture up so you can play 'Guess the sex' if you like!

Thanks for the good wishes, I was very very nervous and now I'm very very happy. Just need to tell the parents!

Jojoba1986 Thu 29-Nov-12 22:38:40

Boy. I've decided! grin Glad it all went well. Enjoy telling everyone & don't ever scare us like that again! wink

Could be heartburn pear. People tend to experience it differently. Have you noticed it when you eat certain foods or a lot of water/drinks with meals? I completely agree, it is so NOT fun. Hope it gets better for you! There are great natural soothers called papaya enzymes (probably could find them in Hollands and Barretts or a natural food store) and they're a lot more pregnancy-friendly than things like Tums or Gaviscon. Also keeping in mind which foods tend to trigger it (usually tomatoes or citrus fruits) or positions like laying down after meals tends to make it worse. Hth!

MrsBri Fri 30-Nov-12 06:31:19

Morning all!

Missed all of yesterday evening's chat...I was asleep by 8.20pm. Had about 9 hours overall, which never happens! Nice :-)

Hope your heartburn buggers off, Pear.

Glad everything went ok lib but Jojo is right, don't scare us like that again, clearly we are the first port of call with scan news etc grin
Another tricky photo, I havnt been able to call anyone's and felt for sure as I'm clearly a nub expert now I could!

lib it's a boy, hands behind head.

Librarina Fri 30-Nov-12 09:58:07

I thought it had its little arms behind its head as well! Which is funny becuase I go to sleep on my tummy but wake up on my back with my arms behind my head! I have decided it must be a very chilled little baby.

Does anyone else suddenly feel a lot fonder of their little Bean once they've seen a picture?

Lorelei353 Fri 30-Nov-12 10:36:35

Good morning. Libra congrats on good scan news. I did check for updates last night but was too tired to post (having been to a gig).
I definitely feel different about my little bean having seen it. One of my scan pics is a close up on head and shoulders in side profile and you can just see this perfect little face. I keep thinking about lying there and watching it flip about on screen. It just makes me giggle.

My manager did send me a nice email yesterday afternoon. I think he's just a bit useless in person. I actually reckon he's been planning for this since I got married last year so I don't think it was a shock.

blundercatsHO Fri 30-Nov-12 13:00:24

My cow came today. Damnit sad

(ps new name)

Loving all the healthy scan news x x

peardrop2 Fri 30-Nov-12 15:32:37

I’m enjoying hearing about all your wrigglers. Mine was so chilled…not surprising really as DH is not the active gym bunny (still thinking it is a boy). It’s cute that our bumps are all showing their characters already.

Lorelei how did your dad and bro take your happy news? Bless you about your boss but glad to hear he emailed you in the end, some men find it tricky don't they! I feel like I might do the same (tears that is) on Monday just because it’s such a build up…dreading any emotions coming across even though I don’t care and just want the news out. It’s lovely that you have the support of your head of dept.

Trumpets thanks for the doppler tip! I haven’t noticed little thumps or static sounds yet but I’ll keep an ear out! Hilarious about your sons playing with model fetus...train them young I say! I think you’re right about the heartburn. It’s happening again today and is especially bad when and after eating so it must be heartburn. Thanks for your reassurance and advice. I will check out papaya enzymes because Gaviscon did nothing for me yesterday anyway. Holland and Barratt will know my name soon! Sipping tea seems to help a bit.

Jojo I hope you’re feeling less icky today?

Lib I haven’t told my boss yet. Plan to do that on Monday…eek! Congrats on your happy scan news and another cute baby pic! I’m guessing a girl &#9786; Are you going to find out at 20 weeks?

Frus I thought I felt movement but I think it was in my head :-/ I’m envious that you and Jojo can feel something but they do say it’s quicker when you’ve had previous children so I know I have to be patient on this one.

Mrsb savor every wink in bed wink

OK large update over!

peardrop2 Fri 30-Nov-12 15:33:28

blunder sad but keep it safe as it won't be long wink

Lorelei353 Fri 30-Nov-12 15:37:02

Sorry your cow came blunder. Love the new name wink

pear my dad got all choked up which was so cute. My brother was really cool about it. I mentioned before (probably another thread or two ago) but he and his wife got married a year before us and have been trying for a good while. She had a mc at 6 weeks about a year and a half ago and had to have some cysts removed but since then nothing's happening. I hope she was okay but I left my brother to tell her himself. She did text me to say congrats later. My brother just said he was really happy for us and we have to go ahead with our plans, and not worry about them as their time would come.

Jojoba1986 Fri 30-Nov-12 17:35:40

My hips hurt. Other than that I've been feeling pretty good today! I seem to have developed a habit of getting a migraine in the evenings though so there's still time for it to all go downhill! Wow, I'm a barrel of laughs!

I'm glad your brother is being supportive Lor, it's always a worry when you have to tell someone who might not be thrilled! It's nice that he can actually be happy for you! smile

blundercatsHO Fri 30-Nov-12 17:37:56

Thanks ladies, it's ok really, he's super cute and he's a happy thought for when my time comes.

Love all these tales of happy families learnibg yoyr news smile

Hey blund I got my cow yesterday.

pear I thought it was in my head with dd1. Until the day before my 20wk scan and I got a hefty boot.
Dd2 wasn't a kicker, and I rarely felt anything with her, even late on.

sad for thunder, silly cows only good for burgers in my opinion anyway wink
Maybe he is your lucky cow though?!
Jojo you do make me laugh, your like my dsis, she hated every second of pregnancy!
Pear can't believe you've not told your boss yet, are you abit afraid? I hated doing it too
Good news with your bro lor, I definatly think you did it the right way leaving him to pass on to SIL he sounded like he was chuffed for you and they will love your new bean when it arrives

peardrop2 Fri 30-Nov-12 18:25:57

He's very soft isn't he blunder and if you turn him round the other way he's just a cow which is very handy :-)

Lor I do remember you saying that about your brother and SIL. It's so tricky from both sides but I'm glad for your sake that you and your brother have dealt with it in a mature and nicest way possible. Hopefully it won't be long before they share their happy news and then you can have close cousins!

Happy Friday everyone! Apart from the heartburn and ligment pains on the right side I'm feeling cheery and festive tonight.

peardrop2 Fri 30-Nov-12 18:29:56

Kitten I was considering leaving it until January when I'm back after the hols as I only have 2 weeks left now but the chat would go like this (which I don't think is my grandest idea)...'Happy new year, oh and btw I'm buggering off in 12 weeks blush'

Jojoba1986 Fri 30-Nov-12 18:34:25

I don't hate every second, honest! Just every other! I guess I'm struggling because my last pregnancy was so easy & I was assuming this would be the same but I'm rapidly ticking off everything that usually appears on a 'pregnancy symptoms' list! I'm very pleased to be pregnant & I know it's going to be worth it in the end! smile

Don't feel bad jojo I hated my last two, because I was so sick all the time didnt know you could have anti-sickness meds I'm not feeling too bad this time round thanks to meds

Ah Jojo I didn't mean it was a bad thing, don't know if you've seen what to expect but the lady who takes ages to get pregnant has a horrible pregnancy at the same time as her mum in law who has twins and is blooming etc she has a massive rant about how shit it is and by the sounds of yours it's not been great, we all know the end is worth it but doesn't make it pleasent in the meantime if your ill etc!
It bugged my dsis I had an easy time of it though, as much as she loves me I know she wished I could experience abit of her misery! Lol
Pear I think pre new year is better to give them warning even if it was just before you went off, you may have quite a bump by jan lol

Right, so not exactly sure if I should be feeling flattered or really offended:

Met up with a friend and her two DDs (her eldest is in my eldests preschool class). We played a bit and then went to eat. We had the 4 kids on one side of the booth and us two mums on the other. A woman comes up to us and says "Oh my gosh! Are you two nannies? We are looking for a nanny for my three kids and you two look like great nannies! I was going to ask which agency you are from." We both look at her and each other and were like hmm "Nooooo....these are out kids and we don't have nannies". She says "Oh! You look so young, you could be nannies". confused For the record, she looked younger than ME and I'm only 27, and my kids look like little clones of me as do my friend's children look exactly like her! Still shaking my head and just feel so weirded out about the whole thing!

Blending Fri 30-Nov-12 21:47:53

Hi ladies

Jojo your not the only one not enjoying it this time (In fact thats encouraged me to start posting again, as I didnt want to be moaning)

I'm feeling a bit fed up an scared at the moment. I'm roughly the size I was at 5-6 months last time, and I keep worrying about becoming bed bound, I realised that I probably wont be able to drive past 6 months, and I hate the thought of losing my independence. Then I feel guily after everything we've gone through to bloody get here.

I had a an appointment with my haematolgist obstetrican yesterday, and brought up the fact I been breathless when going up the stairs or carrying DD (to the point I had to sit down) and she said" No wonder look at the the size of you! It's probably just the heft!" hmm She then said if I have any problems breathing once I stopped physical activity to go to A&E.

I am completely wiped out.

On the up side I got them to book me another scan for next week grin so I get to see my shrimps for a third time.

Oh and I have 4 whole days to myself now! DH & DD have gone to Holland for his family stuff and I opted out! He's taken her on his own before, and they had a great time, all the in-laws spoilt her rotten. So I can take it easy, just me and the dogs.

Sat here with cheese and crackers...would love a glass of something cold!

Oh Blending I'm so sorry you're having a rough time atm. Being breathless going up the stairs is a normal part of this time of pregnancy! Your blood volume is beginning to build and your blood pressure is beginning to drop as well. Are you able to take regular walks at all? Do you think that continuing to do small bouts of activity will keep you going for the next few months? Even stuff like light prenatal yoga works wonders for building stamina. I'm sorry your OB said that, that's really rude and bad bedside manner!

For what it's worth, I look like I'm 5 months pregnant as well (and I only have ONE in there!) and I'm beginning to be breathless when I carry a child or walk up the stairs (not to mention extremely dizzy when I stand up).

peardrop2 Sat 01-Dec-12 06:12:01

kitten I don't have much of a baby bump hmm its growing though so hopefully by January I'll look less fat and more pregnant smile

trumpets you should be flattered! A bit odd though I agree wink

Ooooo this is my first time using the MN app! Anyone else got it? My first moan is there are not many smiley options! More options please MN!

peardrop2 Sat 01-Dec-12 06:15:35

Urgh why am I awake at this unsociable hour!

I've arranged a festive curry meet up with friends this week (before the heartburn began). What am I going to eat now that won't irritate my heart burn :-( A peppery sausage roll set me off badly yesterday so I don't want to imagine what curry will do. Does anyone know if Korma is safe it to eat? That has to be the safest option right?

Bringon- I'd be flattered, you both obviously looked calm and unflustered like mums and believe me as someone over 30 never object to being told you look young!! wink
Pear I only use the mn app, your right about smileys but so much quicker!!
Korma is fine, I've had it allready and would probably be helpful as has yoghurt or cream in it which is soothing
Blending- thought we hadn't seen you much, there's nothing wrong with feeling abit low at how fast your bodies changing, yours will at double speed but agree I've been getting breathless carrying dd up stairs etc and it's not heft! I've only put on 3lb so he's talking rubish, dont worry about what may happen later down the line driving etc as you may not have to, my friend had twins and I met her at 30 odd wks and she was still driving plus you will have them earlier so it's not the full 9 months, think how envious we all are with our final days when you are cuddling 2 lovely babies allready smile
Well can I have a moan/ panic?! Tmi but went to toilet last night and on wiping there was abit of pinky tinged cm, if I was later I'd say a show, definatly pink although a tiny amount was there when I wiped again but no more through the night or this morning, should I phone mw do you think or just wait and see? I have a wedding today and I'm worrying what if alls not well now all and sundry know I'm pregnant!! Didn't have it with dd till the day I had her and my last 2 pregnancys I've mc? sad

Jojoba1986 Sat 01-Dec-12 08:39:47

I'd give them a quick ring. At least they can reassure you that it's not unusual & you won't spend the whole day worrying! <hugs>

It's got worse sad ii am worrying
I'm going in to see them now but not sure if there's anyone in who can scan so not sure if it'll ease my mind much, still feel like I'm doing something

peardrop2 Sat 01-Dec-12 09:13:02

Kitten you're doing the right thing. I was going to say call before I read your second post. Deep breaths [hug]

Jojoba1986 Sat 01-Dec-12 09:20:09

Try not to stress too much! Ha! Do keep us updated if you can. They will at least be able to look for a heartbeat, even if they can't give you a proper scan. Thinking of you. <hugs>

Blending Sat 01-Dec-12 09:22:24

Kittens is it the epu? you can self refer at ours, so get straight down there. I completely understand your worry with your history (same boat here)

FWIW I had this a few weeks ago and they said my cervix had become irritated by the hormones but everything was fine.

It is the epu, theyve been really good, I'm thankful I know just to ring them rather then do the advised go to a &e which is definatly not what id do! They are going to scan me thank god but I'm so anxious < fx and hand holding please>

Jojoba1986 Sat 01-Dec-12 10:01:31

<Lots of hand holding!> Fx everything's ok! Let us know when you've had the scan!

peardrop2 Sat 01-Dec-12 10:26:07

Oh what a relief for you that you'll getting a scan. Thinking of you!

Blending Sat 01-Dec-12 10:37:09

<grabs other hand>

I'm glad they are looking after you. A scan is probably the only thing that will put your mind at rest.

I think the epu staff at the Womens Hospital in Liverpool are wonderful. Just knowing they are there helps me relax, as I know they won't treat me as if I am a neurotic pregnant lady!

Blending Sat 01-Dec-12 10:48:48

Oops! Just realised that could sound bad... I meant dismissing genuine concerns, of which they have no specialist knowledge of, thereby putting every random symptom down to the fact you are pregnant, and you just need to go away and rest. Yes I too have had poor experience of A&E.

Any news?

Blending Sat 01-Dec-12 10:50:10

I need to stop digging...the above coment was about my local A&E not the epu... <puts spade away>

< No hands left so rubs back>

Lol at blending, I didn't think anything of the first post!
well breathes again, all looked ok, babys heart still beating away and waving hello, it was in a totally different place this time and upside down, I'm just so relieved!! Don't know what the spotting is about but they couldn't see any sign of something wrong or going wrong so I just have to think positively, it was just such a shock and I'm going to see all my friends today since they found out so I know itl be brought up alot, they are so lovely there! I know what you ment blending, at a&e during my first mc I was left waiting for 3 hours then as I couldn't say how far along I was as had been bf not had periods return she said well are you sure you are pregnant!?horrendous

peardrop2 Sat 01-Dec-12 12:21:49

Yay kitten very happy for you grin

MrsBri Sat 01-Dec-12 12:43:57

Such good news, Kitten :-)

I've got my worst ms so far today, which is typical when we are off to Manchester for the Christmas market and a gig!

Lorelei353 Sat 01-Dec-12 12:56:45

Hi kitten. Only saw all this now but glad it's all ok and you got it checked out.

Jojoba1986 Sat 01-Dec-12 13:42:48

Yay kitty! So pleased everything's ok! You had me worried for just a moment! We've lost quite enough people off our bus. All other beans are to stay put! wink

Blending Sat 01-Dec-12 13:55:34

Great news kitten! Enjoy the wedding.

Oooh Mrs Bri, is it still the German Market in Manchester? I loved that when I worked in the centre, all wrapped up warm, with mulled wine and a good food, buying hand crafted tatt decorations. Hopefully if you've ms now it will have passed by time you get there.

I meant to say trumpets I would most definately take it as a complement! You are obviously doing something right! As for being young, I'd love to be told that alert! old codger knocking on 40

Well at least I appeared calm on the outside...which was so NOT how I was feeling that day. Moody, irritable, and a very grumpy mum in general. Ok. I'll take it as a compliment then smile

So, so happy that everything is okay, Kitty! At least you have your peace of mind and know that baby is doing well. Blending is right, it can be hormones or irritation on the cervix that can cause spotting. You could have your progesterone levels checked by your midwife too, sometimes if there is a dip in progesterone it can cause spotting in pregnancy. If it's low they will have you supplement with progesterone cream or <wispers> injections.

Thank you for all the hand holding!!!
Much apreciated and thanks for the info on progesterone, that's never been mentioned but good to know if I need to ask for it, luckily I've had no more since yesterday morning although I dont think I'll be advancing from the white knickers for a while just as I'd started to relax
Anyway was lovely to see bean again and could enjoy wedding after! My mum was naughty and asked could they see what it was yet but the doctor checking obviously didn't do it often had a look and said well I cant see anything ( neither could I) so possibly girlie but it was abit early to say for sure and they all start off looking that way so still not sure but at 141/2 wks do you think you would see a little pee pee by then?!
The whole saga made me apreciate how much it didn't matter but that I just want to keep it so much x

MrsBri Sun 02-Dec-12 11:27:47

Hi Blending :-)

Yes, it is still there. Was far, FAR too busy to enjoy it though :-/ We ended up going back to our friends' hotel room for drinks and snacks as the centre was hell on earth.

We had told them I was pregnant, as they'd have seen the bump / noticed I wasn't drinking anyway. Which meant that I also got a little nap in before the gig :-) One of our friends is a nurse, and she was making sure I was ok and that I rested before the gig. We have good friends :-)

And the gig was awesome. It was the first time I'd heard One Day Like This since the first dance at our wedding 7 weeks ago. I cried! It was beautiful and epic. I bloody love Elbow!

Just lounging in the hotel til check out at 12. Nice lazy morning. Then we are doing the tree when we get home. Perfect weekend.

Librarina Sun 02-Dec-12 17:16:26

I'm so glad everything's well Kitty, has everyone else has a good weekend?

MrsBri yours sounds lovely, I saw Elbow in 2007 when they played with the Halle and it was one of the most wonderful gigs of my life. They are also dear to my heart because when my Library was threatened with closure, GG stepped in and wrote a searing letter to the papers defending us.

We had a special day yesterday, invited my parents and Mum in law round for dinner, ostensibly because we wouldn't all be together at Christmas, and we gave them each a little book which said 'Grandma (or Granddad) from you to me' and its for each of them to share their family history memories with the little Bean. Cue much tears and hugs and Champagne and it was all rather wonderful! Im so happy it went well as I really wasn't sure, and sometimes you cant tell with my Mum. Exhausted now, all that cooking has broken me, I'm glad there's leftovers for tonight.

Hey mrs and pear lol is looking for you grin

MrsBri Mon 03-Dec-12 07:07:35

Ha! Train victory to me. I'd opened the window on the train for air as it is just too warm.

A girl got on and just slammed it shut. So I reopened it. She went to shut it again til I bollocked her. As soon as I mentioned pregnant she dropped the arsiness though :-)

Can't cope with hot trains.

First time I've used the pregnant card!

Good for you mrs I love the way patience for arseholes goes out the window with pregnancy. grin

MrsBri Mon 03-Dec-12 07:32:59

It's bloody rude to get on and do that anyway!

I haven't even got my coat on. So warm!

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 09:50:13

Go MrsBri wink

Blending Mon 03-Dec-12 15:15:01

Woohoo Mrs Bri! You go! Your weekend sounds amazing too.

Liberina that sounds a lovely way to tell them. Mine have known from the start as they knew we were going through IVF, so I could hardly say we'll let you know in 8 weeks!

As for me a chilled out weekend with just the dogs, and I'm looking forward to DD & DH coming home tomorrow night.

A silly driver rolled into the back of my car earlier, whilst I was stationary at the lights. She burst into hysterical tears when I got out and saw my obvious pregnancy, and I spent 5 minutes calming her down. There doesn't appear to be any damage to the car. She had a toddler in the back screaming, and looked completely harrased. I took her details in case I found any problems later...she said I could have sent you into labour, so I told her I only look that big as its twins...Cue hysterical crying again! I promised to call her later to let her know I'm ok.

It wasn't a really big knock to the car, in fact I thought I'd stalled and bunny hopped, but now I'm paranoid about the slight lower back pain I'm having and wondering if I should get it checked out? There wouldn't be anything they could do anyway is there? I've no cramps, just a few strange niggles in my tummy.

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 15:26:23

Blending in a way it is kind of nice to hear that someone was so sorry and caring for you but obviously very rubbish that it happened to you! If I was you I would get checked out. The medical advice is to get checked out if you've been involved in any type of accident so for peace of mind it would be a good thing to do.

Lib I'm super envious of your lovely sharing story with your grandparents smile They sound really sweet. Lovely for you to have that support.

I woke up with tummy pains this morning hmm I think it's because I was sleeping on my front. They've been niggling me all day which is super annoying. Probably just bowel issues again but it does make me feel terribly paranoid! I didn't use the Doppler last night but I made DH check this morning before we left for work. I really wish I could just relax a little bit more!

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 15:31:22

Lib obviously I meant grandparents to be wink

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 15:43:12

Meanwhile my list of what is setting off heartburn is growing shock

Tomatoe soup
Chocolate mini rolls
Chocolate biscuits
Mango chutney
Peppery sausage rolls
Anything spicey in general

Blending Mon 03-Dec-12 15:51:55

Off to the EPU I go...called them and said to come in.

It's more just in case and to reassure me I think.

I'll update later x

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 15:58:19

Well done. Hope they're nice to you smile

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 16:44:57

Ahh Prince William and Kate are expecting...thought that would happen this month after the picture of them toasting with water

Ha ha pear I was just comming on to say the same, saw a pic of her last week and thought she had a definate tiny bump! Bet she would be on our bus date wise!

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:18:14

Hmm I'm intrigued to see when she is due. Some people are saying she's 12 weeks but I haven't seen any article mentioning dates. Must be June but I guess it could be May.

Jojobells1986 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:20:04

I'm hoping she has hers early or I have mine really late. I refuse to let my child grow up with the same name as a royal baby born about the same time! Poor child would forever be explaining that they weren't named after the royal because they were born first! I'd seriously consider changing my child's name if that happened! blush

Jojobells1986 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:20:56

She's not 12 weeks yet, they had to tell everyone because she's been admitted to hosp for hg!

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:22:03

JoJo are you going for something very traditional then?

Lorelei353 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:22:16

Sounds like it's pretty early days for her. Feel bad for her. We're all so nervous in those first 12 weeks. Being this sick and then having to tell the world must be awful.

I reckon she might just be on our Gemini bus but could be the next one.

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:24:05

You really think she's that early? With all that money you would think you would be able to buy hospital privacy

Lorelei353 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:29:44

Well the BBC are quoting the statment saying she's definitely less than 12 weeks. Also this bit:

^"As the pregnancy is in its very early stages, Her Royal Highness is expected to stay in hospital for several days and will require a period of rest thereafter," it added.

St James's Palace refused to be drawn on when the royal couple became aware of the pregnancy, only saying "recently".^


Lorelei353 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:30:11

Italics fail blush

Jojobells1986 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:30:29

We like Elizabeth... Not exactly without royal connotations! It's a family name which is why we chose it. If it's a boy it'll probably be something more unusual. DH chose a boring traditional name for DS so we agreed I'd get to choose the next name! I like Levi, but it's taking a little while to talk DH round to that one!

Jojobells1986 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:33:39

I reckon she didn't know she was pregnant & thought she had food poisoning until she got to hospital! That would explain why they're saying it's very early!

OhThePlacesYoullGo Mon 03-Dec-12 17:58:08

Hi. Jojoba1986 suggested I join this thread. It seems that I am pregnant and due around June 5th. Have just been referred to obstetrician, so I guess I'll find out more soon.

MrsBri Mon 03-Dec-12 18:03:12

Hi Oh :-)

And I think a bit less than 12 weeks. Poor girl having the whole world know :-( I do like William and Kate though, it has to be said. Our names are quite traditional, so we may have the same issue, Jojo!

How are you feeling, Blending? Not nice to be bumped, even if only a touch. What did the EPU say?

Hello places <waves> welcome to the luxury bus. 13weeks or there abouts?

Jojobells1986 Mon 03-Dec-12 18:07:51

Hi Oh! <waves> Have you had a scan now? You're due the day after me! How exciting! Are you letting yourself feel the excitement yet? smile

OhThePlacesYoullGo Mon 03-Dec-12 18:13:37

I'm trying. And I am happy, just really scared still. No scan yet, saw my specialist after work today and he ordered bloods and referred me to obstetrician. Am seeing the GP tomorrow. Will they do a scan then? How does it work?

Jojobells1986 Mon 03-Dec-12 18:23:33

The GP won't do the scan but will put you in contact with a midwife. It'll either be the midwife or the GP who refers you to your local hospital for a scan. I imagine they're likely to get you a scan asap, given that you're not entirely sure how far along you are. They'll want to know when the first day of your last period was so you might want to figure that out, if you don't already know.

OhThePlacesYoullGo Mon 03-Dec-12 18:31:31

Thanks, so I'll be seeing specialist, obstetrician and midwife? That's a lot of people. Specialist said they would have to do scans to check for structural anomalies, which is a bit scary. I hope I didn't hurt this baby.

Jojobells1986 Mon 03-Dec-12 18:42:17

People have been successfully having babies for millenia without knowing all the things we know now. It's more likely that a baby will be fine than not. The human race would die out if it wasn't! Try not to worry too much!

Pear re: your heartburn...have you tried eating some raw almonds (thoroughly chewed) or having a small amount of yogurt or a small glass of milk when you're feeling it coming on? Sometimes these work for heartburn too.

Welcome Places. Love the name. It's one of my favorite books. It would be pretty hard to hurt your baby! They are so well protected and are growing beautifully to have made it this far. Having scans are always totally up to the parents because we really don't know what the effects are on the fetus. So keep that in mind if you're feeling a bit off about having one. I always say that you should consider how you would react and feel if there was bad news that came up. Do you think you would consider terminating the pregnancy if there were structural anomalies? Do you feel like you would keep the baby but it would make you feel very worried for the rest of your pregnancy or would you be okay with more invasive testing? Do you feel like you could be okay with knowing and possibly finding parent and family groups in your area and make the best of it? Every woman reacts really differently to this type of news and you should think about how you would deal with good or bad news. My guess is that they are ordering the scan so that they can date the pregnancy based on the baby's size.

Sorry missed blendings post, just caughts pears as I was going to quickly update the same thing, hope your ok, it sounds like it would be fine but glad your getting the reasurance check!
Hi oh, did you not know you were pregnant then? Bit confused

OhThePlacesYoullGo Mon 03-Dec-12 20:06:56

Sorry, no I guess I didn't really know. Had a terrible last few days when I realised that I definitely am pregnant and only told my boyfriend last night. So today made appointment with GP for tomorrow and saw my neurologist who kindly saw me after work (as we work in the same department). I have epilepsy and should have taken 5mg of folic acid well before conception to help avoid neural tube defects which are more likely because of the medication I take. We did not plan this pregnancy and it has come as massive shock, so am still getting my head around the idea.

What alot you've had to take in!! Well it sounds like your in good hands, I know alot of people who have found out late, a friend of mine was 17wks when she found out, had not been taking any frolic etc and was on meds for diabetes, I know it's not the same thing but it was fine for her and she'd been drinking etc etc fx you will get good news

OhThePlacesYoullGo Mon 03-Dec-12 20:45:29

My boyfriend is still at lecture; just want him to come home as I have a ridiculous amount of stuff going around my head and nobody to talk to about it.

Blending Mon 03-Dec-12 20:53:31

Evening, just got back and everything is fine, nice long closed cervix, couldn't scan me this evening so I have to go back tomorrow for a reassurence scan. I have my NT scan on Wednesday so I'll see them twice in 24 hours, all being well. Dsis came as DH still in the Netherlands.

Quite a long wait at EPU as 2 ladies were brought in who were very ill, so obviously got priority, but they put us in a nice private room whilst we waited so we could sit on the couch and not the hard plastic chairs, very considerate of my backpain.

They've given me codine for the pain, as the paracetamol wasn't working. The lovely dr said if I take 2 at bedtime they will knock me out slightly so I can sleep better.

Welcome Oh!

I need food! Catch up with more later x

peardrop2 Mon 03-Dec-12 21:45:15

Blending wonderful that you have been seen and reassured grin

Lorelei353 Tue 04-Dec-12 10:07:33

Blending glad to hear you're getting some reassurance.

Welcome places. Love the name too. A great book! Hope you're doing okay. Your GP will be able to talk you through everything today and answer all your question. You'll feel much calmer after a chat with them I'm sure. Your scan will probably be booked in pretty quickly and you'll feel much better after that.

Is anyone else still getting twingy pains? Yesterday on and off and a lot last night I was getting achy twinges on my lower right side of my abdomen - very low, like level with my hip bone almost. I was getting pain there a while back but it had gone away. More growing pains? My DH was quite concerned but it's not sharp and I've no bleeding or anything so I didn't want to overreact. He did put my feet up, put a blanket over me and brought my ginger nuts and milk though. Bless him.

MrsBri Tue 04-Dec-12 10:39:31

Lorelei, I get that achey kind of sensation / discomfort quite often. And have from the beginning.

I've started to worry if I don't have it!

Blending Tue 04-Dec-12 11:08:09

Lorelei, I'd say perfectly normal too, I've all kinds of niggles and jiggles which are par for the course. Doesn't stop me thinking Hmmm.....

As for me I had my first proper lie-in since I can remember. I actually stayed in bed until 10.00 (I don't work Tuesdays) Then when I awoke I had to shoot downstairs to let the poor doggies out! blush they were nearly crossing their paws.

So off to my scan this afternoon, my brother is coming as my sister has an important meeting an hour before, so I'm dragging the whole family into this palava. I'm not expecting anything bad, just reassurence, but still dont want to alone just in case. I asked my Mum if she'd like to come but her dentures are being repaired and she wont leave the house gummy! As for my Dad you'd have thought I'd asked if he wanted to see my fanjo!

Can't wait until DD & DH come home tonight. Missing them so so much, I just want to be cuddled by them both.

Lorelei353 Tue 04-Dec-12 11:13:01

Thanks for the reassurance ladies.

Blending Good luck today. A lie-in sounds very promising indeed. I'm sure all will be fine. grin

Librarina Tue 04-Dec-12 12:35:22

I knew we'd be all a-flutter about the latest Gemini baby (not you Places, although welcome to the thread, congratulations and I hope everything goes very well.... the good thing about finding out late is that you're over the early-days hump of nausea/aches/not being able to do anything and straight into the 2nd Tri fun of blooming, growing and smugly patting your tummy)

Blending crash sounds scary but I am pleased for your nice closed cervix! The only time I've ever bumped into someone, the lady was so nice I sat by the road and cried!

Peardrop I hear what you say about not being able to relax into it. I think for me the whole thing has been so abstract that I wasn't really able to believe it was true until I saw the little wriggly bean on the screen. I eat plain yoghurt on rice when I have heartburn. In fact you'd be amazed at the things I can put plain yoghurt on.

Off for lunch now. I want a smoked salmon sandwich, I hope that's allowed!

OhThePlacesYoullGo Tue 04-Dec-12 12:49:39

Librarina, I am still sick pretty much everyday. My boyfriend said that apparently this can actually last throughout the entire pregnancy. Not an appealing thought. I am also constantly tired, though this may be related to the fact that I am often up studying until the middle of the night.

I looked at some of the pictures you guys put up. That is so weird, I mean it's a real baby already isn't it.

FrustratedSycamoreSnowflake Tue 04-Dec-12 13:43:15

Hey lib smoked salmon is on the can have list. Yay.
places it shouldnt last all pregnancy. and should hopefully decrease as you head into the 2nd trimester. Isn't it fab that they are all fully formed with fingers and toes (although still growing lots of technical details as it were)
lorelei I associate the twingy pains with bump growth. But I am getting the sharp twinges when I stand up/move too quickly.

Have I been productive on my day off I hear you ask, ha, yeah right , just woken up from a lovely nap, and off to friends for coffee and a natter. grin

Strangely bubs is awake, just been lying here and getting odd but definate feelings, that must be bubs doing somersaults. It feels strange to feel recognise them so early on.

Jojobells1986 Tue 04-Dec-12 14:10:31

Even more weird than it being a proper baby is that, at 14 weeks today, my baby can now wee inside me. Think about that for a minute! grin

Lorelei353 Tue 04-Dec-12 14:36:24

Oh my god jojo you just made me laugh out loud at my desk. That's hilarious. I didn't know that! But then I'm 13 + 2 so haven't read the 14 weeks stuff yet. That's just too funny grin.

places don't let your boyfriend scare you. Nausea that lasts longer than the first trimester isn't very common. It should ease soon. And the fatigue is totally normal at this stage. If you'd joined us earlier on you'd have seen this place was a ghost town after 9.30 as we were all asleep. smile It is weird that they're real babies already. I had my scan last week and couldn't believe that I could see a perfect little face.

Lorelei353 Tue 04-Dec-12 15:12:39

Just got an email confirming the details of a Christmas 'lunch' I'm going to tomorrow. I say 'lunch' because we're apparently leaving the office at 11, to meet a colleague in a pub for a drink at 11.30 before heading to the venue. We're not expected back to the office at all in the afternoon.

It's a big industry thing and not strictly related to my role but a director invited me to it this year. Typical. The one year I get to go I can't drink! I'll sit and watch everyone else get completely pissed! It'll be good fun anyway but typical timing. grin

peardrop2 Tue 04-Dec-12 15:28:19

Thanks for all your heartburn tips ladies! trumpets the almonds and milk seem to help! The yoghurt not so much but I think it was too thick to swallow easily.

peardrop2 Tue 04-Dec-12 15:29:17

Sorry forgot to say welcome ohtheplaces

Lor Sod's law smile

peardrop2 Tue 04-Dec-12 15:38:46

Is anyone else struggling to bend over? I'm not big at all so I don't get why this seems like a big task!

Blending Tue 04-Dec-12 16:13:09

Saw the little wrigglers! Only briefly but 2 hearts pumping nice and fast!

My brother was sat in the corner grinning away. The sonographer had difficulty in getting measurements,due to the postions and they are measuring 12+3 (59.7mm) and 12+6 (65.8mm) but I'm not too concerned in the difference, I should be 12+1 and know may exact dates as its IVF.

It took her forever to get the measurements as they were in the way of each other, so I'm allowing a margin of error.

I did get a photo but you can see nothing at all, not even a vague outline.
During the scan one of them you could see clearly waving its little arms!

Oh and I get to do it all over again tomorrow for the NT scan!

Lorelei353 Tue 04-Dec-12 16:44:42

blending that's great! So pleased for you. Sounds like they're curled up together all cosy smile

MrsBri Tue 04-Dec-12 17:50:12

Awww, Blending, that's so lovely :-) It's great they have company!

Wooo! Yay! So glad you found something that works, pear.

Also fabulous news on the healthy little ones, Blending! Speaking of twins I saw this link on Twins in the womb It's so cool to see them in action together!

Yeay for the cuddlers!! X

peardrop2 Tue 04-Dec-12 21:22:16

Aww blending how cute! Will you find out the genders?

Jojobells1986 Wed 05-Dec-12 00:04:09

Glad they look healthy blending! smile

Ohtheplaces, how did your GP appointment go? Hope you got some of your questions answered!

peardrop2 Wed 05-Dec-12 12:58:33

Hi ladies, just been for my 16 week scan at the hospital. More happy scan news from me as baby pear is doing well and growing as expected. The specialist had a good look at the heart, spine and brain and all looks good so far smile My next scan is on 2nd January so I'm going to try my best to sit back and relax until then.

peardrop2 Wed 05-Dec-12 13:01:33

Oh I wanted to say that baby is still very chilled out and doesn't like to move about much. Every time she gave it a prod it kept putting its hands and arms over its face as if to say go away! It was very sweet to watch and almost got my waterworks going!

MrsBri Wed 05-Dec-12 13:17:36

Awww...so sweet :-)

peardrop2 Wed 05-Dec-12 13:43:11

Also I have a low lying placenta. Does anyone knows what that means? She said it might change.

Ahh pear how sweet!! Did you not find out what baby pear is?
A low lying placenta can mean it grows where your cervix is and if it doesnt move can mean you will have to have a c section as it can be covering the exit path, I think it's quite common to move though aswell x

Jojobells1986 Wed 05-Dec-12 14:22:42

I had a low placenta at 20 weeks last time but it had shifted out the way by 36 weeks. It's probably not a problem - they'd probably have told you if it was actually covering the cervix. I love the thought of the baby covering its face when poked! So cute! smile

peardrop2 Wed 05-Dec-12 14:38:47

DH covers his face all the time when he's is despair so it did make me smile! DR Google pretty much said the same thing as you ladies RE low lying placenta so I guess we will just wait and see. I'm really not that big though so I'm sure there is lots of growth coming my way to push it out the way. They can't be for sure on sex yet so she said its best to wait for the 20 week scan before making guesses. I thought that would happen! Luckily I only have a short wait!

Ohhh they are soo anoying, if it wasn't obvious at 16wks why can you pay to find out at 16?! Grrr they even had a go for me at 14 but that was a doctor not the usual ones, still like you said not long to wait and and the suspence and guessing is exciting! X

Blending Wed 05-Dec-12 20:34:35

That sounds like a lovely scan Pear, how sweet!

The low lying placenta moving was explained to me when I has DD. If you drew an x on a part filled balloon, then blew it up full the x would end up futher away from the opening bit. Obviously if it was too low it wouldn't move far but in most cases it moves away from the cervix enough not to cause problems.

NT scan today, and again one was a real wriggler, bopping about, the other moved if prodded but was much more chilled. The fold measurements were nice and low, and I gave blood, which means I'll get the results next week, but really pleased with today, so not too worried.

DH is being an argumentive arse. I had hoped he would have came back from the trip relaxed, but if anything he is more tightly coiled up than before.

Ooh, bummer on the partner front. Hope he gets it sorted! No matter how hard I try, DH's mood always gets to me and then I feel grouchy. It's not fun to be around them when that's the case.

I was going to do the same explanation as Blending on the low-lying placenta. The vast majority of them do grow out of the way and do not pose a risk at all. If you haven't had any spotting or bleeding so far in pregnancy, it's pretty minimal risk that sex would harm the placenta. Especially if they just called it low-lying instead of marginal previa.

Feeling the baby every so often...really ready to start feeling it more though! Also had this ridiculously painful episode with the abdominal muscles last night. Couldn't even breathe as it felt so painful! Have any of you 2nd, 3rd time mums had this yet?

Librarina Thu 06-Dec-12 10:19:12

Hello everyone. Lovely to hear your scan news Blending, are you going to put up a pic for us to coo over?

Trumpets I'm quite jealous of your being able to feel the baby, I'm still not entirely convinced there's one in there, despite me having an increasaingly crumpled picture to look at... I'm fairly low-key on the symptons and def can't feel anything.

I'm taking Bean to a gig this weekend which I've been looking forward to for ages (Pulp...In Sheffield.... Yay!) but now i'm worried I'll be too tired, too cold and not able to dance. Bri You've been out gigging when PG haven't you? How did you find it?

Lorelei353 Thu 06-Dec-12 10:47:41

I've been to a few gigs Libra and have found the energy. I worried I would be too tired but I had a good meal before I went and kept bottle of water in hand and was fine. Someone like Pulp will keep your energy levels up!

MrsBri Thu 06-Dec-12 11:19:51

I couldn't go as mental at Muse as I would normally, Elbow are more chilled, so that was better. :-)

Pulp will be fine as it isn't a raucous gig from them!

I'm the same lib, 15 wks, no feeling at all and all symptoms have gone and no where neer as tired now, can stay up till 10ish which was usual for me before, my boobs are bigger and according to dh I'm more unreasonable whatever wink

peardrop2 Thu 06-Dec-12 14:21:28

16 weeks and no feeling here too :-/ Come on babies jump around! grin