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Christmas Puddings 2012 - one bun has left the oven, who's next?

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PurplePidjInAPointyHat Tue 30-Oct-12 20:40:04

New thread!

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Tue 30-Oct-12 20:43:52

Well done pidj beat me to it!

seconds (I think) I will be going nowhere near my cervix! I'm not going to take anything but I suppose it's different as I know they'll definitely induce me. I hope never to see such a thread, why would anyone do that?

emilyeggs Tue 30-Oct-12 20:46:49

marking my place (hsmile)

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Tue 30-Oct-12 20:50:24

I only just squeaked it in!

Dp has volunteered himself for gardening duties, but the look on his face when i suggested the evening primrose mirrored my own told me everything i need to know. Tbh, shagging releases prostaglandin so I'd rather stick to that if i ever manage to get in the mood, damned insomnia

Secondsop Tue 30-Oct-12 20:52:31

werewolves the lady in question wasn't getting on with it and rather than wait for an appointment, removed it herself. Rather her than me.

I'm being induced too - it does take away the element of surprise and the thought of having to dramatically announce to my husband that I'm in labour, but on the other hand it is nice to know I won't be hanging on over Christmas.

I'm getting lots of rib pressure now. I can see a difference - my bump comes straight out from under my boobs in quite a dramatic fashion.

giggles hurting ribs is one thing but having to make a dash for the loo whilst i cried with mirth wasn't so funny blush

well done sneaking the new thread in pidjin

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Tue 30-Oct-12 20:56:07

Maybe not funny for you wink

2blessed Tue 30-Oct-12 21:02:40

New thread already? Marking my place, now off to bed

CODwidow Tue 30-Oct-12 21:06:08

My friend actually had her dh give her a sweep in all three of her pregnancies and went into labour with all of them! Funny what we're reduced too when we become so uncomfortable!

pmgkt Tue 30-Oct-12 21:13:30

Marking place and going to bet 2 more babies in this thread, still a bit too early and as we all like to talk, and have more time to talk now more are on mat leave, I don't think this will last that long.

Secondsop Tue 30-Oct-12 21:25:00

Oh CODwidow - eek, the thought of a sweep from a trained medical professional is bad enough but my husband can't even hang a picture without hitting his head on the wall.

He also thought the baby would have a massive head-rush from being head down all the time, till I pointed out the baby was suspended in amniotic fluid.

FriendofDorothy Tue 30-Oct-12 21:28:56

Wow, another thread already. We talk too much!

CODwidow Tue 30-Oct-12 21:33:01

I've never been tempted to get dh to do that but am thinking of the epo nr the cervix trick this time round.

Bellaboo123 Tue 30-Oct-12 21:34:53

Just marking my place...

Still laughing from catching up and all the pills up there! grin

pmgkt Tue 30-Oct-12 22:19:25

This is ds2 but was induced with ds1 at 2 weeks overdue. Is any/everyone else having strong flutters right down the bottom. It feels like its so low its below the bikini line level. I'm am reliably informed that I'm not breech anymore plus im getting kicks up by my ribs so what is it? It's not just when I'm sitting or lying but a lot of the day, more so when I walk? Any suggestions.

Mummycox Tue 30-Oct-12 22:22:48

5 weeks to go. Trying not to think about labour or the build up too much.

emilyeggs Tue 30-Oct-12 22:23:41

I have that pmgkt thought it might be hands? Prob not though so not sure hmm

ISpyPumpkinPie Tue 30-Oct-12 22:39:50

Marking my place.

I get loads of random fluttering pmgkt - have pretty well given up trying to work out what LO is up to at any given moment. Sometimes I convince myself they are breech again, but other times I'm sure that there is something v. heavy and head-like pressing down below and the lump at the top seems to be more bum-proportioned! Hoping the mw might be able to shed some light on Thursday.

Hi all, marking my place.

Have missed loads as my lap top has been sick and went to the computer hospital.

Four weeks to go for me! Eek!

Secondsop Tue 30-Oct-12 22:57:45

pmgkt it's not hiccups is it?

Clarella Tue 30-Oct-12 23:12:45

Lol pills! V funny smile

Could be hiccups or a little hand pmgkt? Or twitching muscle?

My sister via text tonight still claims labour 'didn't hurt', 'you ride the contraction waves', she 'quite enjoyed it, esp the endorphins' can't remember the end but was aware of 'this big push' and enjoyed it so much she'd do it again..... and she was induced hmm NOW she tells me, could have had a surrogate!

V much hoping there's genes to play here, all I had to go on before was my mothers diary entry for my birth, triggered by trying to cross pennines in Renault 4 (dad didn't drive) at 38 wks in snow storm, epidural worked on one side, forceps delivery....

Was told today of friend of friend has now had 5 sweeps! A daily sweep ! She's determined not to be induced! Our nct teacher said she'd tried to do it on herself but short arms and big bump scuppered her.

ellliebelle Tue 30-Oct-12 23:13:29

hi everyone and congratulations honey cant believe we have a baby on the thread all ready makes it all seem a bit more real i guess.

we went to Disneyland Paris on Thursday got home yesterday evening and I've spent most of today napping and catching up with all the chat ive missed out on. i was very glad for half term today as the dd's have played lovely and if dd1 had been at school dd2 would have been a handful.

i feel like a terrible mummy though dh bought the baby a present from Disney and it is gender specific (he knows the sex i don't) dd1 was looking for something we got her and found the present so she now also knows the sex......she is only 5 and i now feel she has this horrible burden on her shoulder keeping this a secret from mesad (dh was quite upset with her by all accounts and made it clear she wasn't to tell me) i just don't know how to deal with this sad

with regards to Christmas presents for the baby the dd's are going to get the baby a present and if he/she makes an appearance before Christmas we will save the present for then also dh has bought a few gender specific things that are wrapped so i don't see them so they will prob go under the tree

AlisonDB Tue 30-Oct-12 23:40:33

Grrrrr was having a fab sleep/dream and DS woke with another nightmare....
Now I can't get back to sleep again!
Restless legs, heartburn, and now I can hear him bloody snoring from his room as he insisted on doors being left open!!!

Wow!!! DH giving a sweep?! Mine would run a mile!

Ellie, my DS is 5, him DH and my friend arranged a surprise baby shower for me the other weekend,
DS wasn't supposed to know but overheard them talking,
DH was then forced into telling DS and involving him, So he wouldn't blow the surprise and tell me,
I had no idea of any of it, then the day arrived and everyone turned up, DS was actually thrilled he'd been able to keep it from me, like it had been his and daddy's secret!

Hopefully your DD will also enjoy keeping babys sex a secret with Daddy too.

Had a wonderful compliment from DS just before bedtime.....
He told me I look like Gloria (the hippo) from Madagascar!!!
Aparently not the face just the belly!!
Gee thanks Son!
I was stood in just my bra & pants but still not exactly the look I'm aiming for!

EggsMichelle Wed 31-Oct-12 02:47:14

Been awake with reflux and baby hiccuping, so caught up on the last few days of chattering (I'm very behind!). DH away for work, so watching Mad Men in bed and eating digestives. Managed to put my omeprazole in a box on top of kitchen cupboards that's I can't reach so munching away on Rennes hoping that will stop the sicky burps!

Honey lovely news about moving to the cot, you will have him home in no time. Do you have to go home at night or is there somewhere you can stay? Our hospital has a 'hotel' where husbands can stay with the women if they need to stay in, it's fantastic.

I bought a my first Xmas tree decoration for Shrimpy and niece from Harrods (silly I know!) and getting they costumes for the day, but that's all, next year will be the first good Xmas for them.

I've had a gluey milky discharge since about 28wks, they told me to keep an eye on the colour (green is bad) but the consistence was nothing to worry about.

35wks tomo, I will definitely have a baby in 7wks, that's nerve racking!

And fanjo's full of pills is still making me giggle, you would be a human maraca!!!

Walnut8 Wed 31-Oct-12 02:48:20

Urgh, definite no to DIY sweeps, pills etc up there. I actually really hated perineal massage too (although did it religiously with DD and had a 2nd degree tear anyway) but everything I read tells me I should be doing it again. From my point of view, sweeps are next to useless unless your body is ready for labour. Mine wasn't, I had three sweeps from 40 weeks onwards, and still went 2 weeks over and then was induced. I tried everything, drank so much raspberry leaf tea, did loads of walking, had loads of sex (sorry tmi), hot curries, pineapple, etc etc. At least I'm prepared for it this time - have no doubt I will go to at least 40 weeks.

I can feel baby's head down low. Really really low. Not sure who said it, but I agree I felt nothing like this last time, especially this early on. Muscles down there must be shot! grin

Alison I think that's really cute grin re Gloria. My DD told me with a big grin yesterday that I looked "gorgeous" which made a very shitty day a lot better.

Bellaboo123 Wed 31-Oct-12 03:43:37

pmgkt I'm getting kicks really low down hence why I'm wide awake...I know I'm still breech though. Could the LO have turned back to breech?

HoneyMum21 Wed 31-Oct-12 04:37:36

Hi all. Checking in. Got discharged from hospital last night so is the first night I've not been able to see Dash when I'm awake and it's horrible.

Honey really feel for you, must be very difficult. Have they said when they think he will be allowed home?

It freaks me out having a cervix.

Clarella Wed 31-Oct-12 04:53:26

Oh honey that must be so hard <hugs>
What times are you able to be there?

Clarella Wed 31-Oct-12 05:00:41

Mw seemed to contradict herself today as said they can move round - so breech, though she thought id be staying put - I have a friend who produces babies that spin right up to last minute.

Forward leaning stuff supposed to work - swimming, kneeling etc

Clarella I've seen my mw three times this pg, the last two times she's told me the baby is breech but as I was having scans every two weeks I knew she was head down! This happened last pg and to my sister with he last pg too. I think they quite often mistake the bottom for the head!! Will you get another scan?

utopian99 Wed 31-Oct-12 05:29:34

Oh honey, that's not what you want, even if it is good you being discharged. How long before he can come home?

Am wide awake as can't breathe due to the Slowest Developing Cold in the World. angry LO is awake too and having a very lopsided party in my bump..

Just a nube question, but if sex helps bring on labour, why not now or in the next few weeks? You don't have to stop for a month do you? We were practicing positions for massage in labour in our nct class and one involved having your arms/head in dh's lap, which looked exactly like oral and caused much amusement. We may be having a child, but turns out we still have the mental age of a 14 year old... wink

Marking place smile

knottyhair Wed 31-Oct-12 06:59:52

Honey, thinking of you and hoping you have your gorgeous Dash home with you soon.
My DS came into the bathroom yesterday when I was cleaning my teeth wearing just pants (sorry for that image), gave me a big hug, and said "you look like you're fat now, even though I know you're not". DP "jokingly" said, "yes, she's eaten all the pies" and DS indignantly said "no, she's carrying my BABY SISTER". So I think I'll let him off grin. Happy Halloween everyone!

I've that dusted the whole house and cleaned all the sides in the kitchen confused

That's so sweet knotty!

knottyhair Wed 31-Oct-12 07:30:59

Wow Spotty, I've been up an hour and have managed a coffee and a sausage sandwich! Need to start decorating the house and getting food ready for Halloween party later for 12 kids must be bloody mad.

MaMaPo Wed 31-Oct-12 07:35:07

utopian, I don't think sex is particularly likely to bring on labour - it's just one of those things that, due to confirmation bias, people get quite attached to. 'We had sex, and that night I went into labour!' Yes, but what about the times before that when you didn't? There's some info about prostaglandin effects on the cervix but I think the quantities requires to kickstart things are such that some normal sex is unlikely to help unless your other half is prodigiously productive.

Nice to have a new thread! I saw my doctor yesterday and had my bloods done - no glucose test, thankfully, and everything else is progressing nicely. Then he complimented me on my collagen, noting that I didn't have any stretch marks! hmm Baby is head down (for now) and thumping merrily away...

JoJoB77 Wed 31-Oct-12 09:10:27

Marking my place smile

EggsMichelle Wed 31-Oct-12 09:15:02

I think I have a cold sad reflux gives me a sore throat, but this feels cold like. Need to do a massive supplies shop at tesco (toilet roll!) then off to the mw's. sex has been a sensitive issue in our house for some time, DH is uncomfortable about performing in case Shrimpy starts wiggling around, so I doubt I will able to say "sex brought on labour" sad

Waiting for scan smile

AlisonDB Wed 31-Oct-12 11:49:03

Sex???? What's that????
Can't actually remember the last time I had any,
The last time, we got even remotely frisky, I had to stop twice to run to the bathroom to be sick! (Think that was about week 25,)

Clarella Wed 31-Oct-12 11:53:22

Lol and ditto Alison, wasn't sick just non plussed.

MyDaydream Wed 31-Oct-12 12:02:20

Had a crap nights sleep, DP was snoring then came into the spare room to wake me up several times with banging about. All the grace of a bloody elephant. Then they've started digging up the path outside the house with a big drill. It's all against me sad. I've also started breathing so heavily and it's started to annoy me.
We've occasionally had sex but I don't think it's enjoyable for anyone really, if I ask DP if he enjoyed it he says "I enjoy having sex with you, because I love you" so guessing he's not that bothered it's fairly infrequent.

Walnut8 Wed 31-Oct-12 12:12:59

Honey that would be awful. It sounds like it might not be far off until he's home though?

I agree daydream, definitely not always enjoyable. I am starting to feel like a whale especially at night and that's really not all that sexy. I hate when DH makes jokes that he never gets any though - we try for at least once or twice a week.

Trying to work out whether I dislike first trimester or third trimester more. On the one hand, you can at least move around freely in 1st tri, although I hate the nausea and the secrecy and being constantly on edge that things could go wrong. Am also thinking, wow this could be the last time pregnant for me (we might stop at two) so I should be trying to enjoy it more right??

WeeJo08 Wed 31-Oct-12 12:17:21

Morning everyone! Happy Halloween! grin Had MW appointment this morning and all went well. Measuring spot on, baby's head down, blood pressure and wee both good. She had a feel round and said that she reckons the baby will be "7 8" at birth. Now, when I heard this I thought oh, that'd be okay...but then I called hubby to update him & he took it to mean 7-8 pounds at birth. confused I'm not sure what she meant now! Either is fine of course! I guess 7lbs 8oz would be quite an exact "estimate"!

Spotty Hope scan goes well!

Knotty That is so cute!

Honey That's great that you've been discharged but must be so hard being away from Dash sad I bet he will be discharged in no time though - it sounds like he is doing brilliantly.

Re: sex...we are still about the 3 times a week mark...though it is getting more and more tricky for me to manoeuvre!

AlisonDB Wed 31-Oct-12 12:21:41

No sex is definatly a turn off rather than turn on,
I feel sick, or have heartburn anyway, so would probably end up taking swigs of Gaviscon during it! Lol

Had a big of a Benny Hill moment last night,
I said to DH, I feel really sore and swollen down there will you loll for me?
He looked like he was about to pass out, like I'd said, right the baby is coming and it's you who has to deliver it!
It was too big a wind up to miss so I ended up chasing him round the house wearing just my bra & pants till he locked himself in the bathroom shouting someone help I'm being harassed by a crazy pregnant woman!! Lol

pmgkt Wed 31-Oct-12 13:06:15

Sex once a week, and mornings. In the evenings I just want to sleep and am struggling with heartburn.
Just had mw at 31 +5 as she only works part time. Anyway I asked about the twinges down the bottom. Yes possibly hands as def not breech but as it is head down it could be his head hitting my cervix when I move, especially as its second time around. Now that really could be a turn off for sex if you needed one!

CODwidow Wed 31-Oct-12 13:09:51

34 weeks today smile still feeling pretty good and quite happy that bump was measuring 33 at yesterdays appt as my last baby was 9lb 10 I'm hoping this one will be a little smaller!

We're still at it probably 3 or 4 times a week but i guess over the next few weeks it'll get a bit trickier! Well nesting has set in big time so whole house has been cleaned today just a shame my Hoover decided to protest and has burnt out so have to wait for dh to get home to fix it or might pop to dm and borrow hers.

Hope everyone has a nice Halloween grin

kate2boysandabump Wed 31-Oct-12 13:21:10

You talked up a storm while I was busy!!

Honey Good news that you're home, but sad that you're away from your little one.

I've had hydrotherapy this week for my PGP and it was bliss. Lots of really good exercises in lovely warm water with a really lovely physio. Of course the other lady doing was much thinner and prettier envy

I've had the whooping cough jab today and the nurse who did it said that when she had her third she was a midwife and she got a friend to scan her who told her it was a boy. Turned out to be a girl shock the baby came home from the hospital in a blue sleepsuit as they hadn't got anything else. I wonder if we'll have any scan errors?

Off to the hospital to be fitted for a back brace this afternoon, pregnancy is such a glamourous time...

We're not planning to buy anything for the baby for Christmas, but if he makes a timely appearance we'll probably buy a few keepsake type things. I will not need to buy the baby any gifts MIL will take care of that I'm sure.

I'm starting on the raspberry leaf capsules this Saturday, when I'm 34 weeks and will be trying the the EPO capsules too. I've told dh he may be required to give me a sweep and he said OK. I think he must be pretty game, he gave excellent perineal massages when I was having ds1, he found himself some instructions from the internet and was committed to his task. He said it was the least he could do and I tend to agree wink

Back from scan! Dr said he is 'chubby'! Top end of the scale for head and ab circumference. Weight estimate 4lb10 shock

Another scan in two weeks and will also book induction currently going to be 38 weeks. Bp good still but fortnightly bp and wee from the 14th.

Oh and I have to see anaesthetist in the next few weeks

brooke89 Wed 31-Oct-12 14:16:31

Jealous of everyone still having sex - I think we've had sex 3 times since i've been pregnant sad

Happy Halloween everyone! We celebrated it last weekend so nothing planned for tonight. It was an absolute nightmare trying to find a halloween costume that fit so i painted a pumpkin on my bump which looked quite good haha i've put a picture up if anyone needs costume ideas!

2blessed Wed 31-Oct-12 14:28:07

I still love having sex with DP and its mutual. We have to be more creative but that's ok.
Just had a lovely lunch of beef and mozzarella meatballs with spaghetti - yum! And now I want to sleep...
Can I ask is anyone having a baby shower? My friends have been banging on about it for months and I have finally agreed that they can organise one for me. They all think I'm a bit weird of not relishing the idea of creating a gift list but I have said that I would be happy with vouchers or a book that they enjoyed in childhood or that they enjoy reading with their DC. Think mainly it would be nice to have a bit of social/ladies time before LO arrives... What's everyone else doing?

pmgkt Wed 31-Oct-12 15:10:19

My baby shower consists of a meal out with my 4 other buddies from my last nct group. I am the third to be having number 2 and that is all that we have each done. Chinese. Next Friday so I should hope to make it til then. It my birthday next Monday so dh has booked us a night away without ds1 at a spa hotel. I would really recommend having a night away before your new one arrives. It's not saying goodbye to your old life or anything just I found once the baby is here things are different and you don't want to go away in the same way for a bit.

MyDaydream Wed 31-Oct-12 15:42:24

I'm not doing anything! DP is taking me away somewhere to do something as an early birthday present at the end of the month, night in a hotel, a silly activity and a meal out but that's all he's let slip.

Sex happens rarely, about once a month ATM tbh. I think DH feels slightly deprived but I'm just so huge and uncomfy I'm really not in the mood. Can't wait to get a sex life back again!

Ear seems to be on the mend which is helping. Last day tomorrow then fly home Friday morning. Think I need a holiday to recover from this one, pregnancy makes day trips etc tiring!

Really hope little Dash will be joining you at home very soon honey <hugs>
knotty hope you survive the Halloween party! Good luck! We aren't doing anything.
Everyone is having lots of sex by the sounds of things. Me and DP are just too tired. Great effort ladies! Would rather eat a curry when the time comes to evict babba!
Measuring 37 weeks at now 34 and levels on my 4d scan of fluid were on the high side so got a scan next week. Not engaged in the slightest
Went to buy some EPO from h&b and they nearly refused to sell them to me?! They let me in the end but wrote all over the receipt saying "we highly recommend not to be taken due to pregnancy" but there's threads all saying people are using it so I'm planning on going ahead. Am I silly?

Barbeasty Wed 31-Oct-12 16:01:37

I'm doing nothing, but DH and I are going away for a night for our anniversary in a couple of weeks and MIL will have DD as a "trial run" ready for when I give birth.

I saw the midwife today too. Baby is 3-4 fifths engaged! Head down (obviously) and back in the right place. Bump has gone from 2cm big 6 weeks ago, to 2cm small today. But no worry, as she said it's nothing to do with the size of the baby, but because he's so well engaged. And there I was hoping for a slightly smaller baby this time...

MyDaydream Wed 31-Oct-12 16:16:20

Cookies I bought my raspberry leaf and evening primrose today and nothing was said to me. They probably just want to cover themselves in case you turn back up in a week with a baby and a lawyer threatening to sue.

emilyeggs Wed 31-Oct-12 16:45:21

Was looking for raspberry leaf tea in boots today, didn't look very hard as I didn't find any (may still be mentally scared over the pill popping slot machine image I have). As for sex, well we still at it if not a bit less by one rather annoying thing is, dh won't perform certain acts that I've always rather quite like! He says his head (on his shoulders) will be too close to baby for his liking. I now won't return the favour grin

Chilli for dinner! I've got enough to freeze at least two extra portions too!

AlisonDB Wed 31-Oct-12 17:24:47

I had my baby shower a couple of weeks ago, it was amazing!!
I had no idea it was happening,
I had planned a lazy Sunday snuggled up in the sofa watching movies and eating junk.
The next thing the door bell goes and 15 of my friends where stood there with balloons, presents and food, shouting Surprise!!! (In the pouring rain)
I was speechless, turns out DH, best friend and DS had been planning it for weeks.
They girls came in decorated the living room with Balloons, banners, etc...
Laid out all the food they bought with them and for the next 2 hours we played games, and had a really good laugh!
When it was time for them to leave they sprang to action again cleared the living room tidied the kitchen and left the house cleaner than it had been when they arrived!! Lol
I got really useful gifts too.
A "baby hamper" full of nappies, sudocrem, baby wipes, lotions, bath toys, etc...
A nappy cake made up of nappies and muslin cloths,
A couple of little outfits.
A Bump & Baby photo shoot.

I felt very spoilt! :-)

That sounds amazing Alison what lovely friends smile

AlisonDB Wed 31-Oct-12 18:04:18

It really was so thoughtful and overwhelmingly kind!

emilyeggs Wed 31-Oct-12 18:04:29

DH just answered the front door and heard little kids saying trick or treat! Can't believe I started crying at there little voices!

Trick or treaters stole all my roses angry

Stacks Wed 31-Oct-12 18:13:16

Marking my place. Haven't refreshed phone since 9am this morning, so there are probably thousands of posts I've missed!

To whoever was asking about flutters down low (pmgtk) I read this morning that LO may be sucking their thumbs by now, and if their thumb pops out their mouth, you may feel them moving their head from side to side to find it again grin perhaps feeling like flutters?

emilyeggs Wed 31-Oct-12 18:14:29

Oh no spotty that's terrible! angry

emilyeggs Wed 31-Oct-12 18:16:08

Oh hang on, do you mean roses as on chocolate? Lol I thought you meant they picked your flowers

EggsMichelle Wed 31-Oct-12 18:17:38

I think my DH is scared Shrimpy will grab his penis, or accuse him of emotional harm in later life, so for now I have to put up with him randomly grabbing me, saying very seductive things, then running and hiding!

Baby bath arrived, it's one of those folding ones as we don't have huge amounts of space. A bit fiddly to start with but just needs practice, can't wait to use it!

grin sorry just to clarify my Cadbury's roses grin

EggsMichelle Wed 31-Oct-12 18:21:28

I bought loads of crunchies and milky ways and no one has come, more chocolate for me grin

utopian99 Wed 31-Oct-12 19:22:58

alison how lovely of your friends! I hadn't even thought of it, to be fair - if someone did it as a surprise i would be quite shocked/touched, but not planning anything.

I thought someone had thieved spotty's flowers too, was enraged on your behalf although still sympathize with your chocolates being sacrificed instead!

I have finished tiling the bathroom! (still have to grout it though..)

Well when I bought my raspberry leaf tablets I had to lie about how many weeks I was! But this time she was a right snotty cow.
Oh what lovely friends Alison. How cute! I would have balled my eyes out. My sister is arranging one next week for me but she had to tell me as she didn't know who I would want to be there. Don't really expect any presents but an excuse to chat and eat cake smile

Haha spotty I think in my pregnant greedy fat state I would be more upset about Cadbury's ones! Yumm chilli. Leftovers welcome
Had several trick or treaters and felt like a very nice mum giving them lots of goodies. grin oh hormones! Felt for the poor parents out in the rain tbh

Made toad in the hole and had apple crumble from waitrose .. aMAZING!

utopian you're tiling your own bathroom?! V impressed.

Secondsop Wed 31-Oct-12 20:35:17

We had quite a few trick or treaters, although fewer than last year (or maybe it just felt that way because we bought enough chocolate to begin with this year rather than me having to make a dash to replenish the stocks).

Had my anaesthetist appointment today (I had a referral to see her because of my high BMI and it's become even more important what with all my other complications). She was really good - I hope she's on duty for my labour. She said that for high blood pressure patients having inductions, she'd recommend an epidural at the same time as the hormone drip starts, to keep pain to a minimum to prevent my blood pressure going up. She asked me about what I'd thought about for labour and I admitted I hadn't really given it much thought as I'd assumed, bein high-risk, that I'd need to go along with whatever the doctors thought necessary and didn't really think I had many options. She emphasised that it remained my choice and that if I didn't want an epidural,
I didn't have to have one. I think I will have one, though, as it does seem to help keep the risks down for me and the baby in our circumstances.

AlisonDB Wed 31-Oct-12 20:39:09

We dont really do Haloween over here, (i kind of miss it, although we are going to a party on Sunday)

No way would i let kids eat my roses!! Lol

There is something called Sint Maarten which is lovely,
Its on November 11th and children go round house to house with paper lanterns singing Sint Maarten songs, and they get sweets for that!
Then early Decemember we have Sinterklaas, which is really the Dutch version of Christmas, there are loads of somgs, traditional sweets and little spiced biscuits called Pepernotten which are yummy!

pmgkt Wed 31-Oct-12 20:41:29

stacks i really like that idea. i was a thumb sucker and ds1 is too.

alison that sounds really sweet, i live 3 hours away from my friends, and dh's friends are not quite the same.

we had no trick or treaters either so sweets for me - shame

ellliebelle Wed 31-Oct-12 21:07:00

2blessed my friends are throwing me a baby shower (although a lot of people cant make it so will be an intimate affair) we are going to a restaurant/beauty salon all in one having mini treatments and afternoon tea and they will organise a few games im sure i haven't done a gift list though just looking forward to cake and pampering with friends smile

CODwidow Wed 31-Oct-12 22:36:45

My sister and mum have arranged for me to have a baby shower on 10/11 only a few people will be there and I've not been asked what I want but have made it clear there should be cake involved!smile

Clarella Wed 31-Oct-12 23:24:26

Lovely to hear about people making things special for others smile these new babies are going to be well loved smile

Because I've been struggling with 'antenatal depression' and both the slapped cheek enforced isolation from work plus the self enforced isolation you put yourself in I think its up to me to suggest any sort of get together but must admit I've not seen certain (childless) friends for so long I'm not sure I can hack it (explanations/questions/stigma). Still struggle with what to say to people plus the 'when do you finish work' q - reminds me of awfulness. Other friends live miles away. School started doing them a few years ago but must admit id always cringed at the thought of that (also marginally superstitious!) and heard too many women worrying/complaining about attending in the past (about 60 staff, all women, many really struggling financially plus some don't get on). The 2 collegues I've been in touch with offered separately but at the time I felt it was too much esp given much of the anxiety was workplace linked - now I'm feeling much better I feel a little sad I haven't/can't enjoy 'normal' stuff like that.

on the up side met all my nct people for lunch (plus second baby!) And then another lady for coffee later I've met through aquanatal. And that's normal stuff smile they were saying how guilty they felt being off - I realised now I'm 'officially' on maternity leave on paper I've lost the horrid guilt I've had for so long :-)

Sorry, a bit me me me, but so few people to express this to!

I do just want this pregnancy to be over soon and baby in my arms so I can get on with the next (much more meaningful) chapter in life. Though would be good to have finished sorting out the bathroom and nursery first!

emilyeggs Thu 01-Nov-12 02:40:33

I've got hear nice and early for the 3am club !

Bellaboo123 Thu 01-Nov-12 03:14:06

emily lol I'm 15 mins late but I made it! Urgh!!! Ooo to sleep through the night again....a girl can dream....

Walnut8 Thu 01-Nov-12 03:54:57

emily your comment about your sex life and not returning the favour made me giggle. Altho there is no way I let DH do anything like that at the moment! Too much ... going on!

clarella don't feel bad about not doing those "normal" things ... a lot of people (like me!!) don't have baby showers or other "normal" things like that due to family and friends living too far away etc. That's why it's so nice to make friends through things like NCT or antenatal classes with other local mums - you're right, the pregnancy bit is just the start of a whole new world.

Am I silly to feel like skipping my 35 week appointment next week, after what happened last week? I have no-one that I can leave DD with, so she is just going to have to come with me and if the consultant is nasty again or DD plays up I feel like I might just have a breakdown!

EggsMichelle Thu 01-Nov-12 05:04:35

Walnut it might be worth double checking the time with them on the morning of the appointment, then if they have made another balls up you are prepared. And tell the consultant to piss off or keep their gob shut!

My sister offered to do me a baby shower, but everyone lives so far away I declined, think I will just make lots of little lunch/coffee dates to keep me busy instead.

Walnut8 Thu 01-Nov-12 05:11:26

Will definitely be double-checking appointment time Eggs ... I was afraid last time if I said anything I would start crying, was already under enough stress trying to keep DD in order.

Lunch/coffee dates are the way to go! If I was pregnant with number one, would also go and get my hair done and maybe go see a movie by myself too. Not much of that to be done afterwards for a while.

EggsMichelle Thu 01-Nov-12 05:43:24

I went to the cinema last week to watch Frankenweenie, and even that short brilliant film couldn't hold my attention! Goodness knows how I will cope with sitting through Breaking Dawn!

Got my friend and her 18month old coming over this afternoon, she has threatened to bring her cleaning stuff!

emilyeggs Thu 01-Nov-12 06:38:44

Ladies! We can now officially say we are having a baby next month! Eek!

MyDaydream Thu 01-Nov-12 07:04:12

I really enjoyed all the trick or treaters last night, although spent most of it feeling a bit guilty because I think a cute little vampire tripped over my pumpkin. They were all so polite though, I kept saying "take a few" and they still carefully picked out one lolly each then said thank you like I'd given the whole bag. Hope my DS is as polite!
emily don't say that! I can cope with 7 weeks but not next month. I could potentially go through to January though, although hopefully not since DP needs to be back at work on the 7th no matter what.

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Thu 01-Nov-12 07:23:55

Emily, it's this month for Clarella and me. Thirty six weeks tomorrow shock

Just realised i need to nc again blush

Clarella Thu 01-Nov-12 07:27:43

I don't think its silly to feel that walnut but its not very fair you do and they made you feel like that - might it be a diff consultant or def the same?

I know what you mean about baby shs, don't think id even want one other than a cake fest to benefit all - any excuse! But still can't handle the social bit on a bigger level. It's more that there are so many things I've not joined in socially/not coped with/ avoided etc for so long, now im a bit better I would probably benefit from it in order to try to feel more normal and reclaim my confidence but am running out of time. (baby in 26 days!) Actually, I think I need to do social things not 'imminent baby related' - my DH and his partner entered a little local architecture competition/exhibition, the preview/winner eve is next weds (after hospital visit which I'm already feeling sick about but nicely sandwiched with a morning sling meet) and I've just realised I am stupidly excited to go as I can be 'normal' (and they will all be totally disinterested in pregnancy chat) Can't wait for life to not be normal ever again for the valid excellent reason of a baby!

Clarella Thu 01-Nov-12 07:29:49

Pidg - nc? I'm confused

Nc= name change smile

Mamas and Papas have at least 10% off everything for four days, their snow globe's are under £10 now

AlisonDB Thu 01-Nov-12 08:01:36

Omg omg omg!!!!
Next Month!!!!!!
OMG!!!!!
Why all of a sudden do I feel in no way ready or prepared?????

Off to the mums and tots group this morning that I now run, i go every week with the kids I mind, really looking forward to it!!

For any first time mums or mums whose families friends live far away I can't tell you how much of a life line these mums & tots groups are...

I started going to this one when my son was 3 wks old, for my benifit not his, that was 5 years ago, I haven't looked back.
I have made some great friends from it,

(obviously it's slightly different for me as a lot of the girls who attend our group are expats like myself and will move at the drop of a hat due to Their DH job.)

But I would definatly recommend looking for your nearest tots group,
sure start or family centre or other group activity with other mums & their kids...

PurplePidjin Thu 01-Nov-12 08:10:32

I'm now back in my normal plumage [wink

itsMYNutella Thu 01-Nov-12 08:10:44

Alison whereabouts are you? Sorry I know you're somewhere Dutch related but I can't remember specifically... I'm in Germany and there is a thread for German speaking (but all welcome) countries if you're interested smile they are really lovely.

Went out for a curry last night, sadly not in the least bit spicy ( sad Germans only like salt - I'm convinced!) but it was very tasty!! So I might have eaten a bit much and then had the loudest (sorry TMI - hope you're not eating your cornflakes) wind all night! I think I could have signalled in ships confused

Loved all the pill talk at the start of the thread, I was on a bus snorting with badly concealed laughter while MNing on my phone grin

Clarella Thu 01-Nov-12 08:12:02

Gotta be grateful for a healthy baby - over it now.

You alright clarella?

I will have my baby in six weeks at the very latest eek!

AlisonDB Thu 01-Nov-12 08:20:33

Nutella,
I'm just south of Amsterdam, in a city called Hilversum,
We have been here 12 years, and kind of view ourselves as lifers even though myself and DH are both English, we just don't feel we want/need to move back to the UK.

gilsbubbles Thu 01-Nov-12 08:43:08

TMI warning....can't remainder who was asking a few days ago about feeling very swollen. I've been suffering for a the last couple of days. Not sure whether it's another charming pregnancy thing or a result of me just finishing a course of antibiotics...think I'll give the midwife a call for advice. Also chatted with DP about maybe starting maternity leave a bit early, had been planning to work till 38 weeks so only 2 more but kids feeling so uncomfortable

gils if you feel the need to stop please stop! You need to look after yourself! smile

Secondsop Thu 01-Nov-12 09:26:02

Morning all. I am 34 weeks today! I feel very fortunate to be sleeping well at present, although getting up is killing me as I am back to feeling very nauseous in the morning. As ill be induced around 38 weeks, my baby may be born THIS MONTH.

2 more weeks of work. Counting down the days...

WeeJo08 Thu 01-Nov-12 09:41:46

Morning all! Eeeek about the next month bit! It was my first thought when I woke up this morning! I'm excited and nervous at the same time! We're heading away tomorrow on our mini babymoon. Going to a nice hotel not far from Bristol, in a place called Chepstow. Looking forward to chilling out, eating loads (no change there then!) and floating in the pool grin Re: baby showers, my best friend has arranged one for me - although I am calling it a non baby shower as I am funny about it too! Basically it is afternoon tea for about 6 of us. My Mum and my best friend are flying over for it, and the rest are friends from here in London. Looking forward to it smile

Alison We used to live in Amsterdam before we moved to London...I really like all the Christmas-y traditions over there too - hard to beat the olieballen whilst falling over ice skating grin

Spotty Thanks for the Mamas & Papas tip - now payday has arrived I might go and get one or two things grin

It's my second to last day today and I can't be bothered to do anything

utopian99 Thu 01-Nov-12 11:31:01

I'd say to those who feel like starting m leave early, if you need to then do. I've been forcibly stopped by probably soon to be ex employer, but it's paradoxically meant i can do more healthy exercise in the day which is helping no end.. (has also meant i have no excuse not to crack on with the diy, dammit!)

My mother's coming up on Tuesday for a couple of days! They live 5 hours away and we get on really well, so am really looking forward to some major nattering..grin

kate2boysandabump Thu 01-Nov-12 11:52:33

I'm not having a baby shower, although there have been offers. I'm too superstitious. So I'm having a get together with friends in the New Year when the baby has been born.

I'm shattered this week, it has been craft week at the boys school, so I've been in to help, but ds1 and his friends are making their project from wood, so I've been sawing and screwing bits together and it is hard work, especially on a smaller then average chair. I was quite glad I had an excuse not to go yesterday blush

My arm hurts from the whooping cough jab and I have a bright red patch just like the flu jab. I don;t feel ill after this one, so that's something.

My baby must be getting bigger and stronger now, in the mornings dh can feel him moving around through the duvet.

brooke89 Thu 01-Nov-12 15:56:39

Just got back from 34 week appt with the midwife and baby is 3/5 engaged! Does that mean I'm likely to go into labor soon? Freaking out!

My best friend organised a baby shower last weekend for me and it was lovely, loads of cake and games like pin the sperm on the egg and guess the baby food which tasted disgusting but I did get a lot of useful presentssmile

It's ok brooke first babies can engage quite early smile

FriendofDorothy Thu 01-Nov-12 16:19:33

My hips and back are so painful today that I am finding walking difficult. I had a TOIL day and loads of stuff to do for the house - I have managed it but it has been a struggle!

brooke89 Thu 01-Nov-12 17:34:44

Thanks spotty - scary stuff still, can't believe how little we've got left, doesn't feel that long ago that everyone had their 12 week scans!

35 weeks and starting to panic a bit that i haven't found THE perfect name options yet (team yellow so must cover both bases). It's always been something really important to me, i presumed by this stage i'd have it sussed but DH keeps throwing spanners in the works by not saying 'yes dear whatever you wish', darn him.
it's such a huge thing in LO's life, i feel very responsible for getting it just right. If it's not just right with 5 weeks to go i'm afraid i might rush into a poor decision. Those of you with DC already - how did you cope with magnitude of the decision? confused

Pru we still didn't have a definite with dd in fact she was called something else until a few weeks before when I had a dream she was called what we chose in the end blush I mentioned it to dp and he liked it but we didn't really discuss it again until she was born and that's what we went with! It will come to you try not to panic smile

Brooke you must be due around my induction date so I can be 'eek!' With you!

Stacks Thu 01-Nov-12 18:15:42

Pru you don't have to name him/her till you register the birth. Could you take a couple of days to get to know your LO before choosing a name? It seems there's some social stigma associated with it, but there shouldn't be - I'd hate to chose a name then not be sure.

We're kind of in that position too, though we know we are team blue. Just got 2 names I can't chose a definite favourite between. Keep jumping from one to the other, then wondering if actually I should go back to the books and choose a new name altogether!

I'm so tired recently, I barely have time for MN. I was checking the time every 5 mins last night, wondering if it was bed time. Started at 8:30, finally had long bath and bed at 9:40. Thing is, I'm still mostly sleeping through the night. Stayed in bed till 7am with only a few short wake-ups through the night to turn over/get comfy.

[I realise I can't complain. So many if you can't sleep!]

Mummycox Thu 01-Nov-12 18:42:02

One week left at work!

How does one register a newborn? Do you have to make an appointment at the registry office or just turn up and what does it cost?

Mummycox you'll get the info at hospital. With mine you make an appointment. The basic birth certificate is free but you have to pay (£5?) for the detailed one, which is the one you have to have for passports etc.

PurplePidjin Thu 01-Nov-12 19:56:03

I wrote my Christmas cards today, ready for birth announcements to go in blush

Very organised pidj! Oh a tip as well phone the tax credits people and get your form for child tax credits so you can fill in as much as you can pre birth. One less thing to think about afterwards. First child anyone earning under £26000 is eligible and second child anyone earning under £32000 not sure about subsequent children....

giraffe213 Thu 01-Nov-12 20:25:53

I did the same pidj, a week or so ago. If the baby comes more or less on time (due 7th) then his/her name can go in, otherwise I'll probably just send them as they are.

kate2boysandabump Thu 01-Nov-12 20:35:57

We have to make an appointment to register births, but I think you have 6 weeks to do it. We also didn't realise they only took cash and were counting out pennies to get the extra certificate blush

PurplePidjin Thu 01-Nov-12 20:47:19

Latest i can possibly go is 13/12. Not sure if I'll sign his name (have done "Dear X, Merry Christmas love Pidj PidjDP x" no "and" but space for it iyswim) then we'll print off a photo with "Pidj and PidjDP would like to announce the safe arrival of PidjChick weighing XlbYoz on Z date at Stupid O'clock in the morning. Mum and baby doing well" underneath, bung one in each envelope and whack 'em in the post quick!

AlisonDB Thu 01-Nov-12 20:57:20

With DS1 we knew from day 1 of finding out we where preg what 1st name we liked, but we argued till the very last minute over his middle name, funny thing I wanted one name DH wanted another,
Thing was the minute he was born and placed in my arms I looked at DH and said he's having the middle name you chose, mine just doesn't suit him!
This time we had DS help us, DH & I had 2 names we liked for 1st name so we let DS decide, then the middle name kind of fell into place once the 1st name was decided!

AlisonDB Thu 01-Nov-12 20:58:43

In Holland Dad has to register the birth within 2 DAYS!!!!
So we can't afford time delays when name choosing! Lol

Secondsop Thu 01-Nov-12 21:38:32

We found a boy's name really easy to settle on, really early on. My husband had been thinking of names before I even got pregnant, it turns out.

ellliebelle Thu 01-Nov-12 22:02:53

we have no names chosen at all not even any that we really like and can agree on smile

MyDaydream Thu 01-Nov-12 23:20:12

Pidj that's so organised of you, my mind wanders occasionally to the thought of cards then away again.
We've had a name for a few months now and if I don't think it fits he'll just have to grow into it since DP hates all the other names I love, everything else we agreed on was more a "well yeah, it'll do" name rather than something we really liked.
I went to bed nearly two hours ago and had to get up again because I was starving and still am after a massive bowl of cereal. Same happened this morning when DP got up at 5.30 for work, but when I made dinner I barely managed half because it filled me up. Am I going to have to start napping before I eat now just to get my stomach ready?

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 00:09:03

pidge it really is organised of you. I am actually deeply in awe of anyone who manages to get their act together to send Christmas cards. I manage it some years, but other years not so much. I wonder if I could combine with birth announcements this year but so many of our relatives are overseas, the last posting dates for those countries will have gone by the time he's born and I've done them. Perhaps I could send happy new year cards with his picture on them.

Picking up on the baby shower discussion, I wasn't going to have one as neither I or anyone I know well is particularly into them, but I'll focus my energies on something to wet the baby's head once he's here. Perhaps a sort of "open house" within strictly defined times, for people to pop over.

On another Christmas note, I'm contemplating putting up my decorations in the last weekend of November. It's insanely early and I'm aware it makes me look like I've got a screw loose - normally I go for the sooner of Advent Sunday or 1 December - but there's a high chance my induction will be booked for the very end of November / early Dec.

MyDaydream Fri 02-Nov-12 00:30:24

I wouldn't imagine it's a problem the last weekend of November, maybe a few people will think it's a bit early but to me one of the really exciting parts of having a baby at this time of year is bringing him home to the house all warm and done up. There are also probably people who already have reindeer on the roof and Santa coming down the chimney, me and my mum always text each other with our first done up house sightings and it's always well before the last weekend of November!
I'm actually really looking forward to Christmas decorating this year, I've not had a tree in three years due to no space where I've been living so really excited about one going up. Get more excited by decorating than I do about Christmas day itself.

pmgkt Fri 02-Nov-12 00:36:24

Can't sleep

utopian99 Fri 02-Nov-12 02:00:36

Neither can i. Just woke up feeling really sick again, last time two weeks ago this heralded a major day of hideousness, really don't want that again. I've had no sleep issues for 32 weeks and the last two have been dreadful.

Hi everyone, I've been lurking for a while but thought I should stop being anti social and say hello.
I'm due 13th Dec (so am 34+1) with my first. I'm going to be a single mum as unfortunately my ex went all weird and left.
At least that means I can use the name I liked that he previously vetoed smile.
Anyway, I hope those of you who are awake right now like me get to sleep eventually and I look forward to chatting to you all. xx

2blessed Fri 02-Nov-12 04:30:23

Welcome dating. That's your ex's loss and i'm sure you will make a great mum!
Can't sleep, nice early night but major tossing and turning.
Had 1st antenatal yesterday and as it was quiet in the home from home birth centre, they snuck in a quick tour. All lovely and it felt reassuring seeing where I will give birth.
Interesting reading thoughts on baby shower. Quite like the idea of "open house" once LO arrives to regulate visitors
Especially as it will be festive season but will feel pressure to do the big catering thing.

pmgkt Fri 02-Nov-12 06:57:35

Well I slept in the end from 3 til 5. What more could you want then 2 hours sleep, and a dh whose response is "why dont you get some sleeping tables" "im pregnant!" To get "well that's that then isn't it" so much sympathy I love it.

pmgkt Fri 02-Nov-12 06:58:32

Welcome dating. The more the merrier on here!

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 07:35:56

<waves to dating> brew

I'm 36 weeks or 9 lunar months today shock 28 days till due date!

I don't normally do cards, but have quite a few distant elderly relatives (geography and actual relativity iyswim!) who need a birth announcement through courtesy. The kind of people I've only met at funerals, weddings and christenings for the last 30 years, so maybe half a dozen times in my life that i actually remember. There are some even more distant ones who will get a "PidjMum and PidjDad are pleased to announce the safe arrival of their first grandchild"! But those will be made and printed after the birth <superstitious>

Mummycox Fri 02-Nov-12 07:52:28

Welcome dating!

Hope those that didn't sleep well have a peaceful day.

Have NCT women's only day today followed by a day of nesting. Ah.

Welcome dating smile

My last day at work today, feel a bit of a fraud as only 32 weeks but never mind I have lots of things to do in the run up to keep me busy!

I was up at three with heartburn and dd was up at 4:30 not impressed. Might have to invest in a gro clock?

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 08:38:08

Hello dating, I think we may have met on another thread a while back - I remember that you have the same due date as me (although I'll have an early induction). Hope all is well.

JoJoB77 Fri 02-Nov-12 08:57:46

Welcome dating

Hope you enjoy your last day today spotty smile

EggsMichelle Fri 02-Nov-12 09:20:05

Hello Dating <big wave>

Been looking at the birth announcement cards you can order, but can't see them arriving in time to put in Xmas cards, so think I will have to use a little creativity and Photoshop and make them myself/get Df to make them.

Someone in the next village has already covered their house in Xmas light decorations, even put a board up with the light switch on date, I don't thing a tree and a couple of lights will be too offensive the end of November!

I'm loving maternity leave, slow and gentle cleaning with lots of knitting, it's amazing!!!

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 09:24:01

eggsmichelle thanks for validating my November decorations!

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 09:29:28

Michelle, ours will just be 1/8 of a piece of printer paper with a few essential details! Nothing flash, or embossed, or expensive grin

Full name
Date
Time
Weight
Mum and baby doing well.

Cut up neatly, shove in envelope, walk to post box!

emilyeggs Fri 02-Nov-12 09:35:01

Welcome dating hope you like to chat as us lot do!

32 week today and I have put some bump pics up I took this morning.
I was in the 3 am club yet again, i'm getting use to it now and don't have to star work tll 12 so had a bit of a lie in

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 10:25:03

Has anyone else got really, really hairy on their legs? I don't normally bother much with legshaving in autumn/winter as I live in knee high boots and am not that hairy normally, but I have just glanced down at my leg and there's a veritable forest. The hair just seems so much LONGER than usual. Just realised that my cleaner must have just seen it and must think I've really let myself go to hell.

I'm hairy everywhere at the moment seconds grin also told dp I needed him to cut my toe nails. He said eugh but agreed to do it grin I might try one last time before I make him do it!

Just had doughnuts with our tea and we're going to get chips from the chip shop for lunch as its my last day and the boss is away its just us ladies in the office!

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 10:48:46

I can still cut my own toenails. It's a bit of a mystery to me as I'm sure I used to struggle with it pre pregnancy! I just sat on the side of the bed and leant downwards with my knees apart.

Have a lovely last day at work spotty. I'm jealous of your chips and doughnuts.

emilyeggs Fri 02-Nov-12 10:55:01

I heard if your having a boy you get a bit hairier due to extra testosterone hmm not sure if it's true though.

MyDaydream Fri 02-Nov-12 11:21:11

Welcome dating, definitely your exs loss.
I'm not doing birth announcements, I'm relying on word of mouth so I don't have to tell everyone. I've got a list of who's bought us what so far and am going to take some photos of baby with that item and posting them out as thank you cards after the birth.
Spotty enjoy your last day at work, hope your chips and donuts are lovely.
seconds the hair on my legs isn't that bad, I think the hair growth hormones are all getting sucked up by my belly though, which is just getting ridiculous. I'm so glad I'm blonde.
I'm still fine with toe nails, I just sit cross legged and pull the foot up. I'm trying to do them fairly often though so they don't get crazy long and I then realise I can't do them anymore. People aren't allowed to touch my feet, so if I can't do it they just won't get done. I can't put tights on any more though, it crushes bump, and I get out of breath doing it.

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 11:45:56

emilyeggs I am having a boy, so maybe there is some truth in it!

I think I was just as hairy with dd grin

Keep getting a really bad pain below right rib, definitely not baby as he's asleep hmm and lower down. Ouch.

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 12:12:51

Spotty perhaps ring the midwife. Mine always ask me if I've got any pain under my ribs that isn't the baby kicking.

I think that's because it can be a sign of PE but I had bp etc all done on Wednesday

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 12:28:52

I'd ring them anyway if I were you. I have to have my bp checked twice a week.

Stacks Fri 02-Nov-12 13:25:40

I've got 'rib flare' which causes aches which aren't baby. Could it be that? I guess it depends on the type of pain, how painful it is, and how long it lasts...

I find sitting up excessively straight and taking some deep breaths makes me rib pain better. If that works (or maybe a bath?) then it's probably something muscular and not to worry about. My midwife wasn't concerned once she'd decided it was a muscle pain.

gilsbubbles Fri 02-Nov-12 13:52:33

Thanks for all the advice, I've listened and have agreed with work that i'll finish up next week rather than battling on for another 2.
All seems pretty imminent now.... off to an NCT nearly new sale tomorrow to see if we can pick up some of the things that we'd like but arent essential..... Wish me luck, I've heard they can be a bit mental and riot-like

kate2boysandabump Fri 02-Nov-12 14:05:49

Welcome dating

I'm not sending Christmas cards this year, unless lo makes an early December appearance. I don't like the idea of sending them short one name. Thank yous and birth announcements are for the New Year. I sent Thank yous with all the details and a picture of the baby the previous 2 times. However I think the chances of me finding the template on the computer are slim.

I'm sad about my CHristmas tree this year, we've dug our own up for the past 6 years and this year I really don't think I should. Again ds's not impressed. I'm putting up decorations second weekend in December, baby permitting.

I'm also in a quandary about visiting Santa this year. I don't think ds1 still believes, but ds2 still does, so I want him to go, but dread the thought of booking something and then not being able to take him sad Anyone else care to share their Santa plans?

I'm having to keep my leg hair under control because of the hydrotherapy. I try and go over them every other day with the epilator and that seems to do it.

Thanks stacks sounds likely its gone now anyway. I do wonder if its related to my crash as my back is still hurting too.

Kate can't you go to a Santa you don't need to book? Like at a garden centre or shopping centre?

gils get your elbows out wink

On home soil. With tree trunk ankles sad seriously need to put my feet up!

I hope everyone's well!

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 15:57:40

Gah, just thought of a better thread title...

DASHing through the snow...

<fetches coat>

Welcome back stacey get those legs up, and plenty f water to flush through the retention.

Hi dating

I cannot believe you're all discussing Christmas cards, I'm due quite late (22nd, induction ~14th) so I feel like I have loads if time once I start may leave on the 1st. May be kidding myself!

I'm in a foul mood today, the friends I normally go to bonfires with (& have for 5 years) have decided they're taking someone else. So my options are pay £20 to park a car on my own, or walk 2 miles in the complete dark up a dirt track at 8 months pregnant! Now the friend is texting me sad faces as she can't believe I'm not going this year! selfish bitch I'm really angry actually as they only told me they were going when I asked them the plans, even though it turns out they'd invited everyone else. Grr!

pmgkt Fri 02-Nov-12 16:04:14

Emily im afraid its an old wives tale. Ds1 and this boy have both had markedly less hair than normal on legs. Underarms are normal though.

Willyou that's rubbish sad and really unfair of them I expect they just didn't think

EggsMichelle Fri 02-Nov-12 16:50:22

Welcome back Stacey, the weather has behaved to welcome you home!

My friend is driving me crackers with old wives tales, every part of my pregnancy has been "oh that's odd as you are having a boy", I have to remind her every time she is talking poo!

Willyou that does suck, I'm trying to persuade DH to take me to a bonfire tomo, we don't normally go but since I have no social life out side going to a ball pit with friends 18m old, I think I need some adult time out!

emilyeggs Fri 02-Nov-12 17:01:09

Is it also an old wives take about how you carry the baby? I'm upset at people telling me I'm having a boy all the time! (not that I'd mind a boy, just wanted a surprise). I'm told i'm all front and 'neat'. Any of you been told one thing then had the other? I'm at the point where id be surprised if I had a girl now

thanks folks, I know they've not done it out of spite, but it's still shitty. Me n DP are going to try to find a weekend one as he plays footie Mondays

Emily I also think that you carry how you carry, I'm all front and neat (boy) but my mum said she carried exactly the same (2 girls). They have a 50/50 chance of being right I suppose smile

AlisonDB Fri 02-Nov-12 17:17:46

Willyou,
That's rotten of them, but maybe they just didnt think?!

I had something similar a a month or so ago,
A group of my girl friends and i usually go to the cinema yogether whenever the local one has a "Ladies night" (ususlly bubbly and snacks before the film, with comps to win spa vouchers etc)
anyway this particular night they went to the cinema to see a film, without telling me,
When I questioned them about it (in a nice way)
Their answer was "ooh we didn't think you would make it as it was the late showing"
To which I said well next time please ask then I can make my own mind up, they where upset that they had upset me!

emilyeggs Fri 02-Nov-12 17:28:09

Is it also a wives tale about how you carry?

emilyeggs Fri 02-Nov-12 17:29:53

I wanted a surprise but keep getting told I'm having a boy

I carried all out front with dd (think basket ball up the top) and an exactly the same this time expecting a boy smile

emilyeggs Fri 02-Nov-12 17:46:10

Thanks spotty , I don't mind having a boy, just wanted a surprise and think I'll be shocked of I have a girl now

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 17:51:05

emily my mum carried at the front for all 3 of her pregnancies. All girls!

willyou that is really rubbish of your friends. It does sound like they've been thoughtless rather than mean, but I know that doesn't help much.

Just been to my first NCT class. Loads of information - lots to digest. But I didn't enjoy the discussion of perineal stretching sad

EggsMichelle Fri 02-Nov-12 17:52:32

I'm all front, my friend is all over (ended up just looking fat) and both are boys. My SIL was all at the front and she had a girl. Morning sickness is also an OWT.

emily right with you, carrying out front an 'neat' so even strangers are telling me i'm having a boy though i don't know.
i'm also pretty much convinced having been told so often and the clothes are starting to reflect this.
all other old wives tale methods have come back 50/50, inconclusive.

giraffe213 Fri 02-Nov-12 17:55:52

I keep getting told I'm having a boy because I went off sweet food (that's gone out the window now though!) and for a number of other reasons I can't remember. Then a lady I'd only just met had a good feel around the sides of my bump and told me I'm having a girl because she could feel the bump on my sides, even though it wasn't really showing. So many people seem to think I'm having a boy that I'm determined it'll be a girl just to prove them wrong! also because the clothes are so much cuter...
I suspect it is a boy though because at my 20 week scan the sonographer was so very careful not to let me see anything below the waist after finding out I wanted a surprise, that I'm thinking there must have been something really obvious down there that he didn't want me to see!

Evening everyone! Welcome back Stacey How are your ears?

Alison and Willyou That's rubbish, sometimes friends can be over cautious! Last pg I used to get texts at 3am in the morning telling me about parties I should be at and it made me cry because I felt like I was missing out but there was no way I would have gone. This time I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, hot chocolate and bed by 8 for the next 8-9 months for me and then I might venture into an evening social event again.

I was told last time I was having a boy, the mw referred to the baby as a boy before I gave birth...I was very shocked when I found out I had a girl...high on gas and air and I believe I said 'that's nice' when dh told me and then 'WHAT??'. I just sat holding her and staring at her all night. Lovely shock.

Long post, sorry! The health visitor came round today, I felt a bit awkward because she is about 20 I know that's really ageist and I'm only 30 it just felt like I'd been through birth and bringing up dd so I wasn't sure how she could help. She was also asking me questions like 'how did you feel when you found out you were pregnant?' really lightly veiled questions hmm. I'm sure I'm probably being very unreasonable but it did annoy me. She told me of some local groups for after the baby is born so that was helpful as last time I didn't bother but I now see that it is quite important to make friends with babies.

Oooh and my tummy spread out all over and low with dd, I was huge but with this one it's quite neat and out front and I'm having another girl.

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 18:06:21

I'm all in front, 2 scans say boy, have been told both by people!

Every so often (like, 3-4 times in the last couple of hours) i get a painful itchy clenching sensation at the bottom of my bump/pubic bone area. Is he just moving into my bladder/cervix, or is it Braxton Hicks?

I have no idea Pidj I've been getting stabbing pains in my cervix when I walk around but nothing like that as yet.

Mummycox Fri 02-Nov-12 18:25:36

Cracking back ache just under left shoulder blade, any ideas how to shift it? The ball is not helping, nor is the sofa.

All out front and boy. Surely it's more to do with your build than it is baby?

Braxton hicks make my whole bump go hard pidj so I'm not sure. I suppose just keep an eye on it?

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 18:30:57

Same here, Strawberry, this is the same but comfy on the sofa with my feet up. Will watch out for bump hardening - can you just feel it generally, or do you have to put your hand on it to feel it?

MyDaydream Fri 02-Nov-12 18:34:17

My bump is low and at the front and I'm having a boy, I don't get any old wives tales or input from people, mostly people saying "are you happy about it? Did you want a girl?". I never know what to say without sounding rude, I was expecting a girl (no boys on my side of the family) but wanted a healthy baby to put in wellies and take splashing through puddles when it's old enough.
We were talking about our scan with our friends last weekend and they were asking how we know it's a boy or if we just got told. I ended up describing the penis we saw as massive and had to backtrack in case they thought I was doing some weird mummy bragging about the size of my sons penis!

Well I can feel it without touching but I've been getting them since week sixteen and they're pretty frequent and strong. It's different for everyone though. It feels rock hard to touch I reckon I could knock someone out with it wink

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 18:39:39

Not rock hard, but definitely firm. Bit like when he pushes his bum out, but all over iyswim?

Sounds like it to me! They might get stronger over the next few weeks. With dd they were only painful once and I was 1cm dilated after that night so I think if they get painful it means your body is doing more than practising!

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 18:54:33

It's not stop-in-tracks painful, but definitely noticeable. Maybe 2 or 3 on the scale, with 1 being a papercut and 10 being burnt at the stake?

If they get frequent or regular I'll call the ward smile

Ah everything is getting ready! grin

Mummycox Fri 02-Nov-12 19:03:25

Sounds like Braxton hicks to me, have had low ones this week which made me swear out loud in front of a client as baby is right on the nerve. Feel for you pidj.

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 19:07:42

blush Mummycox how did you get out of that one ?!

I'm sitting on the arm chair rocking as my back/hip pain is pretty bad-another form of braxton hicks!

Ooh that sounds interesting pidj obviously you must keep us informed throughout the evening!

I think I had braxton hicks when I had more water as my bump kept going rock hard but no real pain just uncomfortable (actual uncomfortable, not dr 'it's going to hurt like fuck' uncomfortable).

So I've filled a whole suitcase with stuff to take to hospital, so much so that I've still got things to go into it. I think I am going to have to split into a labour bag and an after delivery bag..not feeling very organised right now.

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 19:32:31

4/5 in 3 hours is hardly cause for excitement grin

I've got 2 labour bags, one for me and one for PidjChick. Plus a carrier of food, but that's mostly for dp and the mw, i think!

I have two sections separated by my towel - bottom is toiletries and clean nightie etc that I'll need afterwards, top is stuff for during eg lavender oil, skanky nightie, baby oil (for massage), TENS (if my mate gets it out of her attic!), pads etc

PidjChick has 2 vests, 2 baby grows, 2 hats, a pack of nappies and some cotton wool!

Plan is for dp to call the parents when I'm in the shower, so I'll get mine (just up the road, holders of emergency key) to grab anything i need on the way over smile

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 19:33:58

Oh, and PidjChick's blanket which is currently on our bed so it smells of mummy and daddy...

Aww lovely! So organised too! I'm definitely going to do that with the blanket such a lovely idea. My hip pain has stopped now, reminded me of being in labour with dd eek!

Clarella Fri 02-Nov-12 19:40:56

Could be 'fixing pains' pidg?

PurplePidjin Fri 02-Nov-12 19:50:02

I can't remember where i got the idea, but apparently it helps them settle? I want dp to do skin to skin asap too, but they're big on that kind of stuff round heresmile

What are fixing pains?

Just bought changing bag and bauble grin

I read that too, washed the blanket the other day and suppose I'd better start sleeping with it soon! dd keeps coming into our room in the morning and giving me her blankie or her teddy to sleep with and so I've ended up sleeping with them instead, seems to help me sleep better.

I'm excited by any twinge...it'll get tiring in a couple of weeks!!

EggsMichelle Fri 02-Nov-12 19:59:20

I keep getting pain like a pulled muscle in my groin, doing my head in!

I have one bag with all the baby stuff in, which is also his changing bag. Then my bag has all my pre/post labour stuff plus snacks and drinks for both of us. I consider myself a dab hand at packing, and very chuffed I got everything I need into my little sports holdall. My MW mother was very impressed with the content of my bag (well prepared) and I have you ladies to thank for that!

emilyeggs Fri 02-Nov-12 20:00:51

My bag all packed, just one little wheelie case. Might get the blanket out and sleep with it now smile any one else get a pain the breast bone?

Thanks for the welcome home. My ears a lot better, not 100% but a lot better and didn't cause pain on the flight (although I was still necking paracetamol).

Well we spent 2 hrs this evening in triage having a trace done on tadpole. When we flew out last week s/he went mad on take off and landing (I'm assuming due to pressure change) today however I had some movement on take off and then nothing (that would have been around 6am gmt) so when we got home at 4 I did the cold water/something sweet/lying on my left and got nothing so rang the hospital and was told to go in. Obviously tadpole decided to show mummy to be a liar and was moving around, although it still wasn't our 'normal' movement, but the heartbeat was good and they were happy to send me home. I've got midwives on Monday anyway and they've booked me in for monitoring on tues afternoon but told me to cancel it if movement returns to normal. The midwife was also very unhappy I hadn't had a GTT as my dad is diabetic. But my midwife said I didn't need one so hadn't had one. But I now have strict instructions to make an appointment.

Sorry that turned into a rather long post blush

emilyeggs Fri 02-Nov-12 20:23:16

Glad to hear tadpole ok stacey better to be safe smile glad your ear is also better grin

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 20:51:03

stacey glad that your ear is getting better and that the baby is ok too - it's hard not to worry, isn't it, when the movement is different but mine is just the same and puts on a show whenever the monitors are switched on.

It is surprising that you weren't offered a GTT before if you've got diabetes in your family. It's good that you're now getting one - I hope you don't have it as I am finding it a right nuisance.

AlisonDB Fri 02-Nov-12 20:57:40

Wow Stacy what a week you've had!
Glad your ears are slightly better, you must have been do worried about tadpole made up for you that everything is ok, hopefully now you're back you can relax a bit.

I'm feeling huge, but everyone tells me how neat and small my bump is, I am all out front boobs and bump, from the back I don't look preg at all and haven't really put much weight on anywhere else,
Am expecting boy, and carried DS1 exactly the same way.

Although the pregs couldn't have been more different.
I was convinced with DS1 he was a boy and was right - all the old wives tales came true. (Was addicted to spicy food)
With "Pippi" (named by DS1 whose nn is still Beany)
I was convinced it was a girl, couldn't eat anything savory/spicy/ only sweet foods, fruit, sweet drinks,
Im still having morning sickness at 33 weeks, preg rhinitis, spotty dry skin, all the typical girl signs, but he is very definatly a boy!! We have the scan photo to prove it! Lol

HoneyMum21 Fri 02-Nov-12 21:12:24

Love your suggestion for thread name Pidj maybe we can use it to start the postnatal board?!

Hope everyone is doing well and sorry to those who are suffering.

Dash update - he's doing well, is off the phototherapy completely now smile Today he's managed to have a good go at BF 3 times though is still mainly being tube fed. He cried properly for the first time today too which means he's getting stronger. Still no idea when i'll get to bring him home which is utterly rubbish.

itsMYNutella Fri 02-Nov-12 21:17:08

Fingers crossed that you get to take him home soon Honey! Great to hear he is doing so well!

I still haven't got very far with my hospital bag. Have decided it will be next weeks project to get it packed! smile

ellliebelle Fri 02-Nov-12 21:45:25

honey thats great news and so exciting that you can see him improving smile
kate we have breakfast with santa booked for 16th (due 24th) not sure if im being totally rediculous but planning to be there with or without baby unless im actually in labour smile if i am ill get my mum to take the dd's although will be sad to miss it.

Quick question for those with GD just wondering if you will be accepting/refusing induction and what your thoughts are on it?

AlisonDB Fri 02-Nov-12 22:04:08

Great news about Dash!
He sounds like he's a little champ, hopefully he'll be home soon!
It must have been lovely to hear him cry for the 1st time too.
I love hearing your updates about him! Xx

stacey glad you are back safe and sound smile these babies like the attention I'm sure!

That's lovely honey fingers crossed not too long to wait, sounds like he's making great progress.

Warning TMI moment - lost another quite big blob of what I do think is plug tonight.. Haven't told DP as I think he would vomit. Maybe I've overdone it today? Did build the crib single handed whilst occupying DD and cooking dinner (after cleaning out the rabbit and going to the gym?!)

Oh and Alison I had very much 'typical* girl pregnancy last time but quite a bit different this time and girl again. Although everyone seems to be convinced its going to be a boy in pink floral dresses but after 3 scans I'm forced to believe!

Just wondering what fixing pains are clarella ?! Am I being thick?!

Hope all is ok pidj sounds like that body is getting itself ready for its marathon !

CODwidow Fri 02-Nov-12 22:49:55

Oo cookies how many weeks are you now?

I've spent all last night and today with very strong/uncomfortable sometimes painful bh? Not sure as also have very bad backache like period pain but still only 34+2 so hoping its nothing else just yet. Although did find myself throwing a few bits into a bag earlier as my feeble attempt so far is rubbish! Planning on spending tomorrow afternoon organising it a little better after football and ice skating drop offs grin

Clarella Fri 02-Nov-12 22:55:49

Lovely news honey though frustrating - can't they give you any indication when he may come out?

Glad all is ok Stacey - quite a worry.

Fixing pains - last sun night when I had strange pains and felt odd on the Monday - fluey and out of it - so got checked out for a uti (clear - but didn't want to think it might be anything else!) I told the mw on Tuesday and she said 'fixing pains' - and then told me he was engaged. I'd had odd feelings most of last week, strong pushing down bh, odd toilet stuff and v hormonal, then a very long swim on Sunday afternoon which I think triggered some more movement. The most concerning thing for me at the time was the lower back ache, but the mw said all the extra pressure on the cervix etc as they drop can irritate everything triggering menstrual like cramps and odd pains. I'd not come across it in any books etc.

I felt it similar to uti for me - It is important to check out possible uti as I think Alison said? As it can.trigger early labour, it turns out our early nct baby was likely to have been because of this plus a lot of stress (she was handling a big stressful case in court, went into labour during it)

Definately feeling the difference of an engaged head, especially difficult watching bridesmaids dvd earlier, gave pelvic floor a proper work.out!

Clarella Fri 02-Nov-12 22:58:19

Ooo cod it was just like that but you will be more experienced!

Secondsop Fri 02-Nov-12 23:01:34

ellie I'm happy with an early induction. I understand that there is a risk of the placenta working less well after 38 weeks for GD babies and I don't want to run that risk. especially now that i'm on metformin i understand induction at 38 weeks is even more important to limit the time that excess sugar goes through to the baby. I also have had high blood pressure in the pregnancy so for that reason as well it would be better to induce while the going is good.

COD we have the same due date ! I've been getting a lot more of the pressure and pains but not engaged althoigh I know i prob won't. A lot lot more BHs this time around. Have lost a few quite big snot balls of mucus (gross gross gross) for the past two weeks I really don't think it means anything but it's bloody gross no red/brown/pinkness to it thank goodness

Ellie I'll also be accepting the induction. My blood sugar is very well controlled so no worries about the baby being exposed to excess sugar, but the thought if the placenta failing so close to the end is just too scary for me. It will also probably mean that we'll be out of hospital just before Christmas (all being well) which would be nice smile

Thank you all for being so lovely and welcoming me to the group smile.

Are all of your babies lying the way they should? Mine is currently transverse so he's right under my ribs all the time - I'm wondering if this is why I've got a smallish bump? (I'm sick of people telling me what a 'neat' bump I have).

What stage did you pack your hospital bags? I'm worried I'm going to look like I'm packing for a fortnight holiday in the sun (believe me, I'd much rather go on holiday than to hospital).

Hope you all have a great weekend x

Saphiesgirl Sat 03-Nov-12 00:49:27

Was at mw today for fortnightly bp check. It's been higher than normal but still below limit where they worry. Had per eclampsia last time and they monitoring closely. She said I don't have to, but she encouraged me to be signed off work by dr and got me to make appt for next week- she said ok to cancel if I chose.
Had hoped she'd say similar at start of oct, but now feel surprisingly down as only 2 weeks left at work before mat leave. I feel I'm nearly there but don't want to do anything silly. A aargh! Dh is being very black and white about it all but I think I want to keep working? Sounds silly but classes of teenagers are easier to deal with than my ds(2.8)! At least I can eat lunch and sit in peace for brief periods at school!
Any thoughts? Mw said I don't have to- bp is 138/82 and it's been up and down throughout. I know I'll be able to nap etc once off and no medals for staying on. Thought I'd give it weekend and see how I am on mon- dr appt is wed. Thoughts please?
Baby also seems to be staying breech. Had traumatic labour with ds1 and start Hypnobirthing on wed (NHS). Will be going anyway as I'm trying to get baby to turn. I'm told Hypnobirthing is great and I'm all psyched up now. Despite fear of labour (had PTSD then pnd last time- still have flashbacks!) was keen to try this instead of section but somewhat relieved the choice may be out my hands. I'm 32 and 4 just now.
Sorry for rant, dh trying to help but as I said, I'm surprised by my negative feelings about it now! Am I being silly? Can anyone who had cs last time share any tips etc please? I know it's been discussed but been so focussd in mental prep for vb, I've not really thought about cs!

PurplePidjin Sat 03-Nov-12 06:01:11

Nothing over night so no panic yet here wink

No idea re GD stuff, sorry

Dating, I'm quite small (to the naked eye, mw is satisfied!) just put it down to abs of steel and a body built for babymaking if you get fed up with comments grin

Saphie, i work with teens (just pt youth work at the moment) and leaving them feels like letting them down somehow. I know my bunch would be really upset if i buggered off early, they're almost as excited as i am!!

Secondsop Sat 03-Nov-12 06:05:11

saphiesgirl why don't you do as you suggest and wait till the weekend is out and youve had your bp checked again before making a decision? My bp has been around what yours is now, throughout (well, since they put me on a shed load of medication to keep it down, as it zoomed up to 180/110 at about 16 weeks) so 132/82 is not high for me but I know that these things are relative and depend on the person. Mine went so high that nobody was happy with me walking around with it like that and I was admitted to hospital, but it sounds like your situation is different; the mid wife's advice may be out of an abundance of caution. Did they take more than one reading at your last appointment?

Walnut8 Sat 03-Nov-12 07:32:24

Trying to catch up after a few days without checking!

Had a very busy day yesterday and ended up with strong BH pushing down and could feel Lo's head down low. Lots of mucous too (sorry) ... felt nauseous and worried something was wrong. Went to doctor this morning and had a swab done as some of the discharge was pale yellow/green (yuck, sorry again).

I'm carrying low and apparently all in front and having a girl. DD was spread across and low, like strawberry described.

Welcome dating - I wouldn't worry about packing too much. I'm sure they are used to it. If you can though, perhaps just bring one cabin bag for an overnight stay and labour and then get someone to bring a second bag if you stay longer. Birthing suites often arent very big.

Saphie, I have several friends opting for planned c-sections this time around after a traumatic first birth (both of which ended in emergency c-sections anyway). They sound quite straight-forward ... having said that I don't want to talk you out of a vb ... I think for both friends it came down to the likelihood that they would have another traumatic birth (likely in both cases due to different factors)

Bellaboo123 Sat 03-Nov-12 07:42:02

saphiesgirl i was in a similar situation to u a couple of weeks ago. Doc thought I had early signs of PE, was over doing it at work and baby is breech and causing my chest and rib pain. The talked about signing me off but to be honest I wasn't ready yet. Basically I had 2.5 days plus the weekend and just really took it easy and then went back to work. I've consciously tried to slowdown a bit and I've feeling better. I was climbing the walls those few days I was home. I'm now 34.4w and finish work on 30/11 all going well. My DP was very b&W telling me to sign off etc but only you know how you feel/ if ur ready.

honey great news on dash how are you feeling?

Bellaboo123 Sat 03-Nov-12 07:43:46

Oooh and I hadn't even thought about CS too as was going MW led but I'm now of the opinion if she doesn't turn it'll be what it'll be!

I have feet shaped feet!!!!! Yay! Lol

Tadpole had a fidget this morning, still quite quiet but I suppose I'm 34 weeks tomo so maybe it's just natural s/he slows now?!

It's DHs birthday today and he won't let me out of his sight after yest! Poor thing was quite worried i was fine honest I did not have my bp go from 150/88 when I got there to 115/67 when I'd heard the heartbeat

Then it's ds's birthday tomo although he doesn't get back from his dads until 6pm and no doubt after the jetlag from flying and the weekend with XH he will need to go straight to bed so we're postponing it until mon!

I never knew that they induced GD babies early, you lot teach me new stuff all the time.

Morning ladies, anyone else BOILING? I looked like this -> angry last night! I slept with the window open and when I got up to shit it at 1, DP thought it was time to get up for work. Took me ages to convince him it was 6:30 yet and get him to come back to bed grin

saphie may be spelled wrong have baby brain I agree with seconds I'd go to the appt on Wednesday have your bp checked and decide then with the doctor's help. I know you don't want to let anyone down (I'm the same) but your health and baby's health comes first

I'm off to buy some hospital nighties today! Bought my big black post-birth knickers yesterday in the sainsburys 25% off event. and a sleeping bag and snowman costume

Going to wash all my little bags and my snow suit today, eek can't wait!

emilyeggs Sat 03-Nov-12 09:19:48

willyou hahahaha you got up to shit it? gringringrin

emilyeggs Sat 03-Nov-12 09:22:13

I got some night shirts from primark £4.50 each. Nice and roomy smile

EggsMichelle Sat 03-Nov-12 09:31:20

Walnut do you mind Letting me know your swab results when you get them. I've had yellow/green discharge (looks like urine coloured snot!) for a few weeks now. After initially mentioning it to the midwife (only concerned if it was bright green) she recommended I get the GP to swab it, but typical me I have ignored it hmm

utopian99 Sat 03-Nov-12 09:33:56

willyou your post just made me laugh out loud (assuming it was a typo!)

FriendofDorothy Sat 03-Nov-12 09:43:31

I have had a yellow/green discharge and haven't done anything about it either. blush

I just worry about being seen as an over-anxious first time Mum!

So tired dd had us up loads with a cough, her throat gets really dry and she refuses to drink! Then once she finally slept she was snoring so loud I couldn't sleep hmm I've only just got her dressed and I'm still in my pyjamas. Need to Hoover and do the washing plus should pop to tesco but I just want to sleep!!

Yep typo, I noticed after post but really couldn't be arsed to do anything about it! Although if I did need a poo in the night I'd definitely get up! You take your poos where you can get them at this stage grin

Walnut8 Sat 03-Nov-12 10:32:35

Yep will report when I have results back eggs and friend - it looks like it won't be until Weds though next week! Glad I'm not the only one ... TBH I have had it on and off for most of the pregnancy but every time I get around to thinking I should get that checked, it goes back to normal white.

fandango you certainly do! grin

spotty after three rounds of colds I know that feeling far too well sad Hopefully she has a long nap today and you can have a rest too? Popping to tesco reminds me I really should think about setting up a weekly grocery delivery like I did when DD was young.

She doesn't nap anymore really but hoping for a snuggle on the sofa also think that the housework and tesco can wait for dp grin

Not got anything in for lunch but could rustle up a leek and potato soup or marmite pasta......

Yum I love marmite pasta...nigella's best dish grin

EggsMichelle Sat 03-Nov-12 12:20:51

I'm one of the rare few who really don't know if they love or hate marmite. Wouldn't enjoy just eating it on toast, but is really nice in gravy and sauces.

My mums like that Eggs!

We went for soup in the end and dd is having seconds so good choice. Her cold is getting worse by the minute though poor poppet

brooke89 Sat 03-Nov-12 13:28:51

I have ate so much marmite on toast since being pregnant! Yummmm going to have to make some now!

I went and had a swab about the snot like discharge - hospital said it was a uti and thrush, nice! Quite common apparently in pregnancy, they gave me a course of antibiotics for the uti and a pessary for the thrush. Nightmare with the pessary as kept thinking I was going to poke bean in the head and wasn't putting it in right, 3 prescriptions later and it finally worked haha!

utopian99 Sat 03-Nov-12 13:53:00

I always liked the idea of liking marmite hmm but in reality i definitely don't like it on toast. Do love twiglets though, and make gravy with marmite and redcurrent jelly..

CODwidow Sat 03-Nov-12 14:00:57

cookies if forgotten who it was that shared the date, I've also had some lovely snot like discharge but pains seem to have settled a little and the pressure below has eased a little so glad about that, I'm happy for her to arrive late November so I've had a wordgrin

pmgkt Sat 03-Nov-12 15:13:47

Dating, I just found you on an nct thread, you aren't far from me, I live just outside fareham, and you say southampton area. A special local welcome.

PurplePidjin Sat 03-Nov-12 16:46:47

Pmgkt, I'm also local in that case smile

cherrypiew3 Sat 03-Nov-12 16:53:56

Hi Dating I am 34+5 and dd is transverse at the moment my ribs are taking a battering, I also have a small bump measuring almost 3 weeks behind have been having growth scans all the way through so I know baby is ok. At my mw appointment on Tuesday she did say that one of the reasons bump is small could be due to how dd is lying.

Stacey Hope you enjoyed your holiday.

Honey Glad to hear little Dash is doing well.

Well have brought the last few items for my hospital bag today so just need to pack it all now. Dh is starting to panic that if she does not turn we could have her in 3 weeks and he is starting to panic me.

Well we are meant to be going to fireworks tonight but I think DD is too poorly. She can't stop coughing, runny nose, temp 37.7..... It's the cough I'm more worried about because it means it's all in her chest. She really wants to go though so I don't know what to do! Going to be 6 degrees and we'd be outside for two hours

I seem to have a lot of rage these days, but I'm annoyed yet again! grin

DP has yet again told me that he doesn't want to go to the 1 off baby class I booked us onto next Saturday. He says "Everyone I asked says it's a waste of time and we don't need to bother" I have politely explained that I don't give a fuck what anyone else says and I am well aware that he is just pissed off as he will miss a week of playing Saturday league football. This is the 4th time he has raised it, he even asked me to ring the midwives and ask if they could do one on a weeknight instead so that it wasn't a Saturday! what planet is he on?

I am going to stick a fork in his eye if he so much as mentions not going next week! Or I may cut his cruciate ligaments so he'll never play again! Neither of us have any experience with babies and I really want a tour of the baby suite. It's one day 10-3 FFS! angry angry angry

angry for you WillYou

EggsMichelle Sat 03-Nov-12 17:22:07

Oh don't cut his cruciate, he will be on crutches for months, moan about how much pain he is in, and be completely useless. Will be like looking after two babies. Just kick his knees really hard, he will have recovered in time for the birth.

PurplePidjin Sat 03-Nov-12 17:39:21

WillYou, he should have stated his objections before you booked it. It's too late now!

emilyeggs Sat 03-Nov-12 18:09:53

Sounds like dd is a bit too poorly spotty sad maybe you could buy some fire works for when she's a bit better

Good point eggs duly noted. To be honest pidj he did but as he works 6 days and plays football on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Saturday his available options were thin on the ground! It's the free nhs one so not like you can pick and choose. They do one day each month and that's it!

Sorry to hear about your dd spotty

Well we've stayed in and we're getting an Indian instead grin hopefully will be able to see some out the window as there's a few displays going on tonight. Good idea about getting some sparklers or something. Typically dd is full of beans now! Still coughing though.

emilyeggs Sat 03-Nov-12 18:37:45

Even better spotty it will all be half price tomorrow/Monday grin

EggsMichelle Sat 03-Nov-12 18:43:59

I washed all the baby clothes on a short 30c just to freshen them up, and some red dye from a second hand sock ran on one of his beautiful brand new white sleep suits sad he's not even had a chance to poo in it and stain it himself.

On a plus we are having bonfire food in the comfort of the living room, too cold to go out!

spotty I admire you for even considering going out! I love bonfire night but too heavy, tired and uncomfortable this year. I can see a couple of fireworks but not much from where we are. My mum lives in a place where there are about 15 houses and they do group events like fireworks night so I'll go to that next Saturday night and have some chilli. Will miss the mulled wine though sad

I've done more hospital bag shopping and packing and I think I've gone a bit nuts about it! I've got little plastic wallets with things for labour (flannel, vaseline for lips, relaxing pulse point oil) things for after (pots of salt bath, lavender, maternity pads, pants) things for after bath (arnica, deodorant, little pots with tinted moisturiser, blusher and mascara) hair accessories (dry shampoo, hairbands, clips, serum, brush) a pouch of baby stuff (Vaseline, nappies, milk, muslin) and that's not even the clothes for me or the baby!

I keep feeling like my waters are about to pop!

Secondsop Sat 03-Nov-12 19:49:05

You are all so organised with your hospital bags! At my NCT class yesterday the teacher said to pack the bag with my husband so that he knows where (and what) everything is. Might do it tomorrow. We also really need to construct the wardrobe for the baby's room at some point but we're both dreading that because it seems really complicated and we're bound to get cross and frustrated at each other. .

I feel like the baby may be moving downwards - definitely more pelvic pressure now.

Those of you going out - wrap up warm! It's really cold out. We went to the Aussie Rules game at the oval today and I was very glad of my big coat and scarf.

My hospital bag won't be packed until the day before I go it grin

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Barbeasty Sat 03-Nov-12 20:44:48

My hospital bag will be packed after DH and I go away for our anniversary in a couple of weeks, because I'll be using the same bag!

We're just back from a firework display. Almost the second the fireworks ended, the most monumental hail storm started. I'm dried out now, in my pyjamas with duvet and fire on. Worth going though.

Thanks walnut, that's a great idea re the bag. I'll def do that. I might take an extra bag for drinks and snacks in case I get hungry as where I want to go isn't near any shops (just a pub).

I'm such a lame arse. I can't even get up off the sofa and I'm only 32+2. I don't know what I would do if I had to go to 42 weeks I'm not even sure I'll make 38 tbh. I can't breathe or anything sad

envy at your fire Barbeasty

Hi pmgkt I'm just outside Romsey and new to the area. Nice to meet you smile.
When are you due?

Where are you purple?

Right boob just starting leaking......freaking me out....this didn't happen last time!?!

PurplePidjin Sat 03-Nov-12 21:50:26

South of you and west of pmgkt grin

Get measured for bras in Bradbeers - they're amazing! My mum goes to Lucy, i think, and I'll be getting my nursing bras from her in a few weeks (she reckons you can't be accurate in any way until at least 38 weeks)

Ringwood meet up ahoy - just round the m27 for pmgkt and a pleasant bimble across the forest for us two!

HoneyMum21 Sat 03-Nov-12 22:05:34

And for today's trick... Dash has learnt to grab my nipples and squeeze them when I'm trying to get him to feed... confused

Clarella Sat 03-Nov-12 22:27:09

Aw how lovely honeymum! (if a little eye watering!)

Live labour on the Nov thread confused

purple that sounds like a puzzle! I had to close my eyes then to work out where that might be! Where are you planning on going? Pah? Or new forest bc?

Sleep is eluding me sad

Thankfully tadpoles movements have returned to normal so I'm going to cancel my monitoring for tues morning. Still got to arrange my GTT though.

I think my hospital bag is basically done but I'm going to have to check/repack it as I've forgotten. Lol

Walnut8 Sun 04-Nov-12 05:05:03

Another hot day here today. have just been out for a really nice meal though with my visiting family and a glass of bubbly.

I'm glad movements have returned to normal Stacey!

We had a couple of live labour updates on the last thread I was on for DD, was pretty exciting! Esp the home births.

Way more discharge today. Wish I could get the results a bit earlier!

Honey that's lovely smile must be a good sign of bonding?

We're up for the day now. 4:45 dd announced it was time to get up and half an hour after calpol her temps still up and I'm hungry so here we are!

Walnut8 Sun 04-Nov-12 05:33:23

Oh honey, I missed your last post. Ouch! smile How are you feeling now? Are you managing okay? Are you able to spend most of the day at the hospital?

PurplePidjin Sun 04-Nov-12 07:55:55

He's hungry, Honey, yay!!

Yeah, Burley at PAH then hopefully a few days in Ashurst as it's so much closer to home and family. Are you coming down, or are you Salisbury from there? I have a friend with the same dd as me in Fordingbridge who's coming south... Slingmeet is next Friday, let me know if you want details (it's very practical and not at all tie-dye-hippy-dippy-crazy-lentil-weaving don't worry!)

Mummycox Sun 04-Nov-12 08:46:19

I didn't order snow until after baby came... So why is there snow on my car and ice in puddles?

Had a lovely day yesterday, girlfriends arrived with presents and chocolate and most importantly generally looked after me all day. Very lucky girl I am.

pmgkt Sun 04-Nov-12 08:48:04

Hi dating. I'm due on 28th Dec, but I went over with ds1 by 2 weeks so I'm expecting it to be Jan. Happy for ringwood meet or s/ampton

Those whose babies are transverse do they lay like they're in a hammock or are they facing your back? Like the idea of baby chilling out hammock styleee grin do they try to turn them like with breech babies?

No snow here just a ridiculous amount of rain meaning the roads are flooded, again!

PurplePidjin Sun 04-Nov-12 09:59:22

Ringwood's cheaper for parking any excuse to nosy round the fabric shop

Purple - I was offered Pah / ashurst or Winchester. So chose Pah / ashurst. I'm not keen on Winchester for some unknown reason.

MaMaPo Sun 04-Nov-12 10:58:53

Hallo you chatty bunch!

Honey, grand news about your little one. He sounds delightful. One of our NCT bunch had her little one by CS last week, and they were then back in the hospital for a few days when he was about a week old. Not sure what had happened, but apparently not too serious as they're out and about again.

4 more work weeks for me, though I have about 7 days annual leave to take plus about a day of time off in lieu. So much to handover and nobody to hand it over to! The position has been advertised and so far 2 (!) people with the right qualifications have applied. Very frustrating. I thought the job market was supposed to be tight!

Bit by bit we have started getting ready for this little arrival. I bought some nappies and wipes and things and put them on the bathroom shelf, leading my husband to exclaim 'Holy crap!' when he went in there. By hook or by crook we'll come to terms with the reality of it all fighting all the way.

kate2boysandabump Sun 04-Nov-12 11:30:52

Good news Honey

Glad movements are back to normal Stacey

I hope all the brave souls who ventured out to displays and bonfires had a good time. We stayed home and had some in the garden and had burgers and hot dogs, yummy smile

I've finished getting things for the baby now, we got a cot mattress and linen for the cot and pram yesterday, so now we've got all the essentials. I also talked dh into trying out a Babasling with the weighted doll they had in the shop. He was quite taken with it, so I'm now trawling ebay. Of course I know what he really wants is a big back carrier so he can take the baby on expedition with the Explorers grin

Feeling very tired today as I had a bad nights sleep, still tucked up in bed while dh is doing the domestic thing. He's done homework, has bread proving in the kitchen and is about to start hoovering smile

Secondsop Sun 04-Nov-12 11:50:10

kate your DH is baking the bread? How lovely. My husband has been great through this pregnancy in keeping the house going but most kinds of cooking are beyond him.

We're unpacking, getting ready for ds's birthday (today but he's not back from his dads until 6pm so it's postponed until tomo) I'm bored of cleaning and sorting though. Get so out of breathe. Wish baby would engage so I could breathe but ds didn't until I was in labour so I doubt this one will.

I hope everybody enjoys their fireworks I'm not bothering as the kids are knackered from holiday so need an early bed, esp as we have to take DH to work tomo before school so I have the car to get to my 34 wk midwife appointment.

kate2boysandabump Sun 04-Nov-12 12:06:42

He is making bread! He's a pharmacist, so he sees most cooking and baking as a different kind of chemistry experiment grin

PurplePidjin Sun 04-Nov-12 12:32:51

Kate, there have been some serious concerns about pouch types like babaslings for newborns, i really recommend you go to a sling meet to talk to qualified and experienced sling users who aren't trying to sell you something - ever wondered why there are so many being sold so cheap second hand?! There are some lovely mei tai's around which are like the big framed carriers but snuggly for tinies, would your dh go for that? (mine's sold on them already!) I've got myself a stretchy wrap, just tie on in the morning and pop baby in and out as needed.

I just started putting nappies away now I've sorted storage (shoe thing that hangs in the wardrobe) I have 36 small and 34 large nappies - that's just the prefolds, not the shaped ones! I'll be washing every 3 days to start and every 5-6 from then on gringringrin

There were some concerns over PidjChick's heartbeat, dating, and if he hadn't grown out of it (he has) i would've had to go to Proper Hospital no questions. I really wanted Ashurst, so compromised on Burley because of the faster transfer if there was a problem. They said they'll transfer me to Ashurst for post-natal care, which is what i wanted most, so win win. Might even see you there!

FriendofDorothy Sun 04-Nov-12 12:48:10

The pouch slings are definitely not recommended for newborns. Try something like a Close Sling which gives better support.

I have a close sling and it is lovey, went to a sling library initially wanting a pouch sling but after trying all of them the close was the easiest and felt most comfortable. I was told the pouch slings are fine to use but bag slings which are a lower version of pouch slings are dangerous as the fabric can smother the baby.

EggsMichelle Sun 04-Nov-12 15:52:25

I an struggling to lug his weight around now, I am not looking forward to carrying him more when he is born, so for that reason I am burying my head in the sand about slings/carriers for now. I may think more clearly when my back has had a little relief.

Just put the cotbed together on my own, I love flat pack! And booked tickets to what might be my last gig in a long time, luckily it's an acoustic set so I will be excused for sitting and not moshing!

If dp says 'what is wrong with you' in an arsey tone one more time he's not getting any of the yummy toast I'm making angry (with red cabbage and pigs in blankets and yorkshires) all I did was ask him to get the chicken out the oven and he started huffing and puffing like I'd asked him to catch, kill, pluck and gut the bloody thing!

I think you know what to do spotty - fork in the eye! I was intrigued about the toast with the other stuff until I read chicken and realised it was roast grin

Mmm red cabbage on toast grin

brooke89 Sun 04-Nov-12 17:01:01

Haha I thought how strange about the toast until I read the chicken too!

Feeling very sorry for myself today haven't moved off the sofa sad think I've caught a bug from DP, my belly feels like I've bruised the inside. Damn winter weather!

Anyone else with pins and needles at the top of the bump? Have googled and apparantly it's baby trapping a nerve, bloody annoying though!

Well house is sorted, we have removed the sofa chair from the living room and replaced it with an okra chair so we have more space. I have padded ds's bed with his old quilt (that was too thin) under his mattress topper, to keep him toasty (his room downstairs gets very cold). We have unpacked the suitcases too. I feel like I've run a marathon, I can't wait to feel normal again!

MaMaPo Sun 04-Nov-12 17:22:56

Kate, our husbands sound similar. Mine has just decided to learn to bake, and is on his second sourdough loaf. First thing he does when he gets in of an evening is to go and check on his starter - he's so protective of it! He's not a pharmacist but is fascinated by the chemistry of cooking and baking (as am I). I bought him a big book on food chemistry for Christmas last year and now he pops up with random information on egg proteins and the like! Given I am developing a new interest in sewing it makes for quite a nesty home, and it's good for us both to have a hobby.

Actually, I can hear him watching Great British Bake-Off Masterclass right now!

I bought loads of fabric for a Hugabub-style sling yesterday, so all I need to do is cut it to size, make and add the pocket and I'm all done!

Secondsop Sun 04-Nov-12 17:57:12

eggsmichelle if you love flatpack would you like to come to my house and put together the baby's wardrobe please? smile

Have been having a time finding something to wear in hospital. My mum was going to make me stuff but it wasn't working - she'd chosen the weirdest floral fabric, to begin with, and it made me look like an old lady. So I've ordered a couple of nice t-shirt nightshirts from bonprix in big sizes that should fit over the bump, and will open up the front to put poppers on it for skin-to-skin contact.

Ahh was trying to post for ages on my phone today but my app just wasn't having any of it! Had a little baby shower gathering today was lovely got some lovely things. Full of cake and feel sick! Earlier my post was meant to say can I please invite myself to Ringwood please?!

PurplePidjin Sun 04-Nov-12 19:39:52

Store21, Primark and supermarkets, seconds smile

Cookies, you have pm

MyDaydream Sun 04-Nov-12 19:41:13

Jealous of all of you with cooking other halves, our kitchen is freezing and I really don't want to go make dinner.
Spoke to my mum today and she's ordered our cot, although we have no idea when it's being delivered, hopefully early next week so I can get it up and it'll motivate me to finish off everything else in the babies room. Looking forward to doing some flatpack on my own, got the cot coming and DPs new computer desk needs to go up, I find it really satisfying.

PurplePidjin Sun 04-Nov-12 20:09:13

I got a bargainous moses basket and stand for a fiver this afternoon at a nearly new sale, now need to wash the covers and buy a new mattress. Dp doesn't bake but made curry from scratch yesterday and sweet chilli salmon with mash today. Almost makes up for inflicting Fawlty Towers on me earlier hmm

Dp never cooks. At most he can stick a pizza in. He does, however, wash up and clean the bathroom grin

MyDaydream Sun 04-Nov-12 20:35:50

Pidj that salmon sounds gorgeous.

ellliebelle Sun 04-Nov-12 21:11:53

Right not had chance to catch up but needed a rant/moan/some advice sad

Might seem petty but i have just found out my mum has bought me a really hideous changing bag that she plans to give me at my baby shower on saturday.

I dont know how to respond to her when she gives me it sad i dont want to be ungreatful but it really is horrible and just so not me sad i dont know what she was thinking when she bought it its like she was buying for a stranger not her daughter....argggggg

AlisonDB Sun 04-Nov-12 21:19:31

Ellie, if you cant be tactfully honest with your mum, can't you pretend someone else has bought you a new change bag, and politely ask if hers can be returned in favor of something else?
Many shops provide gift receipts...

ellliebelle Sun 04-Nov-12 21:23:46

alison i had thought of her returning it but also know she has bought me bits for my hospital bag so quite worried she will have taken all packaging off and stuffed it fullbof stuff making it unreturnable sad she has ordered new on ebay today so it wont arrive till at least tues but not sure i feel i can let her know that i know and also thatbi dont like it.

PurplePidjin Sun 04-Nov-12 21:24:03

It was, Daydream!

Such a shame it's too small to fit everything in, ellie, because it's such a generous present. Oh no, what's that, it's the last one in that design? Well, i can either keep it as a spare or how about i take it back to save you the trip and see if there's something similar?
<evil>

ISpyPlumPie Sun 04-Nov-12 22:08:31

Hi everyone,

Just quickly catching up. Have been busy finishing decorating the living room and getting the last couple of baby bits today. Only got my Primark shop for nightwear/big knickers left and then I'm completely sorted. Good job seeing as I'm due a month today shock.

EggsMichelle Sun 04-Nov-12 22:33:15

Ellie, you have enough time to go buy one or order one before then/pretend you have ordered one, then you can say "oh well, if it's non returnable at least I have a spare" and stick in in the back of a cupboard. My Nan always insisted on buying me things my cousin would like (Chav who wears her skin as clothes, lovely girl though!), my Mum would take one look and return the offending item. She only got the idea when my sister and I started turning up in Dr Martens, hoodies and tattooed (you can imagine her face when I told her we were having a humanist naming ceremony!)

AlisonDB Sun 04-Nov-12 22:42:07

Ellie, how much do you/ will you see your mum once the baby is born?
I had similar with my mum, when I was preg with DS1,

I had been talking about a high chair and saying I wanted one, the next thing is I go to visit my mum (I live in Holland she lives in the UK)
And she proudly presents a high chair to me saying I bought you this, your dad can bring it next time he drives over!!

It was huge and in garish colours and unable to fold,
So after graciously accepting and saying how much I loved it, i flew back to Holland and a few weeks later i lied (through my teeth) and told her a group of friends had bought me one, and much as I loved her high chair "wouldn't it be a brilliant idea to keep 1 in your house mum? That way when we come to stay its one less thing for md to think about?"

Could you say something similar? Ooh mum it's really lovely but, I already have one, can we keep it your house that way when you look after the baby you will always have a fully stocked change bag with you?

Hi Ellie, does your mum know that you know about the bag? If she doesn't know, can't you go out tomorrow and buy one you love? Then when your mum gives you her lovely gift you say how lovely it is but you have already brought one? Or call her tomorrow and tell her how you found the perfect bag whilst out and you can't wait to show her. Then hopefully she'll take back hers and get you something else?

Doh, ignore my message Ellie!!

Ellie I feel your pain, for dd my mum bought us a really cheap buggy (it's just too flimsy and low down she wanted us to use it from six months hmm), a stage 1 car seat (one of those Nania ones I just can't bare to use because it's no stronger than cardboard) and now two second hand booster seats which she can't use for two years and when she goes up to the next seat I'll be getting one with a back and not second hand! I would either go with 'mum, I'm sorry but I really don't like it' or get another one and say someone bought it/gave it to you or you've already got yourself one and if she can't return it then it can be her own one for when she baby sits. I still use mine for dd who is two so she would get plenty of use out of it smile

Oh ellie you have my sympathy I have a feeling I will have the same sorts of problems with mil.

Well I'm thoroughly confused. At triage in Friday they made an appointment for me to go back tomorrow for observations if tadpoles movements hadn't returned to normal. If they were back to normal I should just cancel it. So I go to phone this morning to cancel and I haven't got a number for them, so have to call labour ward. For them to tell me that triage don't do appointments do I couldn't possibly have one hmm. Then I try to phone the number the midwife gave me to arrange my GTT and it doesn't exist confused. The saying 'couldn't arrange a piss up in a brewery' comes to mind tbh. Have asked DH to look into home births today (he's against it because it's 'more dangerous' if things go wrong) and I'll discuss it with the midwife later. Just feel that the hospital are pretty useless tbh.

Stacey that's rubbish hope your mw can sort it out.

I'm having a breakdown trying to get the cover back on my V pillow it's impossible!!

ellliebelle Mon 05-Nov-12 09:59:32

Thanks for all your lovely replies smile i generally feel better about it all this morning had a compleat melt down last night and feel rediculous now smile alison i see my mum at least once a week so wouldnt even be able to pretend im using it smile

Dh knew she was looking at getting me a bag but she showed him a diffrrent one that would have been fine. He is going to email her today ask if she bought the one she suggested and send links to ones i like incase she didnt buy one tgen when she says she has one he is going to tryvgetvher to show him and then suggest he isnt convinced its my kind of thing etc hopefully she will return anf get one of the ones he suggests and if not she is at least forwarned that i might not like it

ellliebelle Mon 05-Nov-12 10:01:52

stacey how horrible that you have lost ypur confidence in the hospital this late on in pregnancy sad i hope you manage to sort things out.

Sorry im rubbish and cant remember whois suffering with gd but those that mentioned the risks of the placenta failing early just wondered where this info had come from?

Ellie I don't know the ins and outs but the placenta tends to mature more quickly in women with diabetes. Mine was failing at 36 weeks with dd and I had good control (also had a scan the day before which was fine) only symptoms was hypos. I think it's something to do with the excess glucose. Also I assume that it's worse for type 1 and people who have gd that have had to go into insulin. Maybe talk to your midwife so you can make an informed decision? I'm sure it's common for women with gd to refuse induction smile also as its not your first (?) maybe sweeps would work rather than full on induction?

Stacey are you with the same hospital you were with for your last births? How were they? I only ask because at my hospital they are the same with appointments and getting through to various wards is impossible but the labour ward was brilliant which is the only reason I've stuck with it!

Just in the waiting room for our last scan. Grumpy and massive.

Out of interest is anyone else going to refuse a sweep?

strawberry they were ok but not great iykwim, but we'll see. As for sweeps I'm gunna do them myself tbh from about 38 weeks. I don't fancy a hcp doing it!

EggsMichelle Mon 05-Nov-12 11:14:10

If someone offered me an induction today I would probably say yes! I'm getting very uncomfortable with the pressure on my cervix and the sheer weight of my bump straining on my skin and muscles, I can't walk around the house without it hurting <grumble grumble>

ellliebelle Mon 05-Nov-12 11:18:13

spotty thanks for the info think i will askbthe consultant on thurs for stats on placenta failing in women without diabeyes and those with and also discuss options for monitoring rather than induction.

Thisbis my last baby and i was rather looking forward to my nice natural homebirth and keep getting quite stressed/upset about the prospect of having to change my plans. Obviously if changing them is the best option then change i will but dont want to just agree to whats suggested cause the consultant says to.

strawb i was goingvto refuse a sweep but inlight of what ive said above may now accept one. Induction really is the last thing i want . Im pretty sure id prefer a c section.

All above being said im not even convinced baby is right way up at the minute so who knows what will happen

ellie I think there is at least one story from a diabetic on homebirth.org

I wasn't sure which way up the baby was but she is head down woo hoo! She is also back to back...ouch...I'm hoping she'll just roll around a bit. Estimated weight right now is 7lbs 2oz!!!! That's bigger than some newborns!!

shock Strawb how many weeks are you?! dd was estimated 7lb born 24 hours later weighing 8lb

ARGH that's quite scary spotty!!!!! I'm 36 weeks today. The consultant told me that full term is considered 38 weeks not 37 too!? Might just start bouncing on the ball more next Monday anyway.

Just off for another hair disaster appointment to correct the orange.

CODwidow Mon 05-Nov-12 13:06:05

Two of my ds's were born at 37 weeks and considered full term? Not sure who else said it but I will also be attempting my own sweeps from 38weeks.
Well finally got round to unpacking and organising my hospital bags I've gone for one for baby and then one for me as I think it'll make it easier for dh tbh. Only ever used one big one before but does get a little confusing.

Almost 35 weeks now and starting to feel it, I've not felt too bad til now but backache is setting in and bump seems to have had a growth spurt recently and expanded massively! But boys are back at school today so a chance to rest grin

I know they only correct their age if they are born before 37 weeks?

I've just ordered a load of containers for batch cooking (£7.20 for 50 on eBay) so once I get those I'm going to have one day a week where I can do stuff like that

JADEmummyof2 Mon 05-Nov-12 13:15:52

hello
Hope you don't mind me joining this thread i'm due on the 8th December.
smile

Hmm my pregnancy email says I'm considered term at the end of this week too....strange. I'm thinking of giving myself a little tan and painting my nails tonight. Maybe if I take as much care of myself as the girl on obem who had the sneeze water birth it might happen to me too!

I'm a bit squeamish to give myself a sweep but I wonder if dh's doo dah would work blush

Welcome jade

strawberry DHs doodah would be perfect, sex is a good way to bring on labour.

PurplePidjin Mon 05-Nov-12 13:28:45

Hello Jade brew

Michelle, SIL gave me an Emma Jane maternity belt - basically a big elastic band that goes under the bump - and it's fab. Might be worth getting one if you can; iirc Emma Jane is the NCT brand. I also find a hot water bottle very useful, have been sleeping with one recently poor dp

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 13:33:59

That's great strawb - is it definitely 38 wks full term? I would prefer that greatly!

Stacey, that is crap and v worrying - can mw help/ sort it out?

Warning: dear diary rant but need to get it off chest - though I'm actually pretty calm about it -
Feeling so much happier and balanced over last few days. Really hoping I don't have to drop thyroid med again as I definately get a 2 week hormonal wobble which makes me think I'm depressed again. Just had a fab counselling session where I didn't cry once (first for me) blood test this morn then hospital on weds - really hope I can do the same there and be chilled, its nicely sandwiched between a sling meet in the morning and an art/architecture exhibition preview in the eve (where DH and his work partner MAY have won a small prize!) So hoping enough distractions.

I'm pretty cross with my pharmacy as i had a long over due bedside table drawer clear out and found the box and leaflet that matched the packet of thryoxine pills I was on in Feb/ march. (which I've obsessively kept hold of just in case) The mrha issued the caution and withdraw on 16 Feb due to concerns about its strength. My box, numbers all matching the affected batches, was issued on the 4th march - and I know id been on that brand in the months before. So I was definately taking pills weaker than.I should have been till about 13 weeks hence the resulting confusion and (on top if the slapped cheek confusion) resulting in my anxiety/depression. Im not totally fuming but fancy logging it with them. I still question if baby was affected in that first trimester due to it (most important time to be well managed) and try and tell my self it was relatively within range, though frustratingly, correct blood tests which would have reassured me I was taking enough were not done, due to the system the lab follows - you have to insist for t4 here. its just that I made one hell of a fuss at the docs about upping my dose on bfp and had so many diff responses including 'she's a fuss pot' - at least I did work hard at being a pain in the bum as my main doc didn't even think underactive thyroid was a problem in pregnancy, so it could have been worse and ended in mc or definately affected baby development. It was only through seeing the note of the British thyroid foundation that I followed it up with gp and pharmacy - they should have contacted me - but was never sure the date they'd issued the pills. Cos I'm feeling ok I can manage it, its the 4.am hormonal wobble that might do for me! Trying to just move on but cover my back if I.need to.

It's now dealing with the view the hospital think I'm barking mad - anyone would have been given the crazy doses of thyroid meds I've been on in last 8 mo plus all the other stresses! Seeing consultant perinatal psychiatrist on thurs to discuss medication post baby incase I wobble but tbh if the thyroid is managed ok I'm pretty confident ill be fine. I guess its all been good intro into being a mum - and good practice for future - and going for gut instincts!

Sorry for the monologue. Just needed to bleurgh!

Was going to say 'im full term today!' But maybe I'm not?!

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 13:36:19

The semen in dhs doodah supposed to help work too btw smile

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 13:38:01

Sorry - that was a massive post feel free to totally ignore!

WeeJo08 Mon 05-Nov-12 13:51:23

Flip me! That took me ages to catch up!

Welcome Dating and Jade! Hope you like to chat! grin

We got back from our little break yesterday. We had a lovely time - lots of yummy food, nice and relaxing and plenty of floating in the pool! We decided to get the coach there and back as there wasn't too much difference with times but bloody hell did my back hurt! It was sort of round my ribs at the back. Also, Shnarf seems to have developed a dislike for anything resting on my bump (or her house, as I suppose she sees it!) and really squirms or kicks if I rest anything there, i.e. if bump touches the table when I'm eating, if I rest a book/magazine there, if I snuggle against a cushion on the sofa. Hmmm...fussy!

Picked up some more baby supplies last week - changing mat (£14 in the Mamas & Papas sale), snowsuit, Moses basket sheets and the M&P 'My First Christmas' snow globe grin It's adorable!

brooke89 Mon 05-Nov-12 14:29:24

Woah Clarella - I would be fuming! Just got off the phone to my doctors now annoyed that they've made me miss 3 days of thyroxine because they've messed up my prescription! Can't believe what happened to you, i definitely think you should log it with them!

Still have this horrible bug and baby is hardly moving compared to normal - is this to be expected if mum is feeling ill would the baby also feel it? Really don't want to call the mw at the hospital as they have this horrible way of making me feel stupid

brooke just call even if they make you feel stupid it's better they make sure baby is ok.

brooke89 Mon 05-Nov-12 14:54:41

Thanks Stacy, going to see the doctor at 4:20 first and then see what he says.

Wish I'd stayed away from google now all that's in my head is placenta abruption ahh!

ellie I would be exactly the same, infect I would still be having a melt down about it now. Blame hormones!

stacey and COD are we allowed to do our own sweep?! Stupid question I'm sure. When I have attempted to poke around for cervix recently following mucus etc I can't even reach (Ido have short fat fingers and was V hard to reach round belly) so DP may be the answer if he's willing?! As much as I wouldn't have a problem with having a sweep (or an induction for that matter) i really wouldn't want my midwife doing it IDK why. Have been upping my bedtime efforts in hope for the semen to start working haha, and so DP doesn't know what I'm up to in a few weeks time when I'm suddenly 'in the mood ' again after all these months!

Last time I didn't know about DIY sweeps.. Has anyone done one before?!

Good luck brooke keep us posted.

strawberry wowsas! They can be a pound out either way ?! Maybe your bun could be next. DD1 was born at 38 weeks and was nearly 8lbs .
Have a growth scan Weds (35 weeks ) will be interested to see what they say weight-wise. 37 weeks is considered term I thought ? I'm confused now ! Also makes me panic my pretty newborn clothes won't last as long!

I'm probably mad but I feel ready now so anytime from 37 weeks is fine by me. I'm organised and impatient!

I'm single, how am I going to get hold of semen / find someone to have sex with me? Lol

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 16:24:42

Brooke - I'm thinking I need to not fume anymore, feel a bit vindicated more than anything - its partly that 'am I being silly ' thing that the medical people make you feel that drove me round the bend literally (now, after all I've experienced and seen others experience here and around me, definately call hospital) however that (prescription) I would be very cross about! Remember it stays in body for around a week and they always say if you miss one dose you can take the next day with your usual one. At this stage baby is making his own thyroxine too.

Strawb - did you loose some plug earlier in week....?! Um, this is starting to look a,little like the November thread ( they're really getting going!)

Oops and belated hi to jade and dating!

Hi Jade and Dating smile

Have hysterical hoovered downstairs, washed up and cleaned down all the sides in the kitchen, am now in a considerable amount of pain. Just need to clean the kitchen floor and fold the sheets and towels and that's my 'chores' for the day done. Easy dinner of left over chicken, rice, peas and salad cream. Yum grin

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 16:32:47

Actually dating I don't know how very medically true it is - so hard to actually test what really kickstarts labour in a 'scientific test conditions way! Our nct woman reckons eating lots of dates works, apparently been doing it for years in the Mediterranean!

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 16:36:59

Although.......

date link

Well, what's the harm, will keep you regular, they're rather yummy and supposed to boost seratonin anyways!

PurplePidjin Mon 05-Nov-12 16:39:38

Apparently there is a miniscule amount of prostaglandin in semen but imo i reckon it's like the "blow jobs cure sore throats" theory - invented by men for their own selfish ends hmm

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 16:40:48

Ooooooo, not many women in study but maybe I will....

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Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 16:43:30

Following the evening primrose/raspberry leaf tea capsules fanjo confusion - ladies, its eating dates, not to be stuck up down there....

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 16:45:14

Probably right pidg!

Surely eating dates might make it more likely that there will be a poo incident during labour?! I think the only thing that works is the nipple tweaking isn't it? Hence me not being allowed, under any circumstances, to start hand expressing before 36 weeks?

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 16:54:46

I thought it was a given that there will be a poo incident during labour spotty!

I gave a pharmacist apoplexy when a bit bunged up and tried to buy some after being told glycerine suppositories were ok by mw and hospital cos she thought they would trigger contractions so could contribute I guess!

It's probably all mostly placebo effect smile (except nipple tweaking if that's what youve been told spotty?!)

I think there was a thread on nipple tweaking not that far back if you have a search!

No poo from me first time round grin not that I saw/smelt/felt anyway! My mum has has five children and said she never pooed, she isn't the sort to be embarrassed either so I think she's telling the truth!

HoneyMum21 Mon 05-Nov-12 17:09:54

No pooing during labour here (bloody well felt like I was going to but the only thing that popped out were piles blush )

grin Honey it does feel like you're going to doesn't it? I remember pushing and thinking 'I don't even care if I poo I'm just going to push!'.

Speak of piles, what cream is everyone going to use post labour? Or are suppositories better? I only had a couple with dd but remember how painful and gross they were!

HoneyMum21 Mon 05-Nov-12 17:22:27

The hospital gave me anusol spotty. Definitely helped. and was free as they gave it

WeeJo08 Mon 05-Nov-12 17:25:02

I leave you lot alone for a few hours & come back to talk of nipple tweaking, dates up fanjos, piles & poos.

Situation normal then!! grin

HoneyMum21 Mon 05-Nov-12 17:26:37

Hehehe WeeJo it does sound a bit mad when you put it all together like that!

Piles after labour? I've been battling mine for weeks sad envy

Well I lost a bit of plug but no blood or anything....I'm thinking I'm safe for a week or so. Dd was 8lb 4oz at 42 weeks so this one really is getting ahead of herself! I blame dh as he and his whole family are huge, you know marshall in how I met your mothers family? Bit like that but more of them.

grin at dates up fanjo!!

HoneyMum21 Mon 05-Nov-12 17:52:31

shock at baby sizes. Dash is just back up to his birth weight and I still keep looking at him and wondering how the hell he came out of me and he was only 4lb 14

Lol you lot are all mad! Well I have my GTT tomo morning now, and as my midwife is useless I have no idea what I need to do to prepare, can u lot help?

FriendofDorothy Mon 05-Nov-12 17:57:24

No food or drink before you go in. Clear fluids only.

They will do your first blood test and then give you a sugary drink and do another blood test a couple of hours later. Hopefully they will give you something to eat once you are all done and dusted!

Honey that's good news smile I always thought that about dd's head as it was 36cm when she was born. What was Dash's? I'm really worried about this one as he's already top of the chart in size, I'm only small!

AlisonDB Mon 05-Nov-12 17:59:10

Clarella, OMG I actually spat my tea out at your not putting Dates up the fanjo comment! &#128514;

HoneyMum21 Mon 05-Nov-12 18:04:38

spotty don't know about head size - they don't seem to do measurements here anymore (some kind of new guidelines that will orob change in 3 days time). I do keep looking at him and trying to work out how he actually fit inside my belly. Although the length of his arms and legs do explain some of the weird lumps ac bumps I could see in my side most of the time!

Aww honey it's giving me warm fuzzys just thinking about him smile hope all is well.

Sorry to those eating dinner .. So ANOTHER big mucusy loss- literally the size of a 50p.. In fact I would say bigger maybe.. No blood or anything still. Should I be concerned? Who was it who mentioned they had had a swab done and were awaiting results?

MaMaPo Mon 05-Nov-12 18:23:19

Gosh, I know that the doctors/midwives are always asking if the baby is active, and to contact them if it's not - but is there such a thing as too active? My bean has been quite active all day, but within normal range, and I just got home, sat down and had a weak hot chocolate and the thing has gone bonkers. My whole belly is shifting and moving, makes me almost seasick to watch it. There have been a couple of jabs in my lower left belly that have made me gasp and jump, and generally it is very uncomfortable! Has anyone else had this experience? I feel bruised from the inside!

Now that I write this the bean seems to have calmed down a bit, but man. I think there might have been some hiccups earlier, so maybe bean is just uncomfortable and is tossing and turning.

Oof.

Thanks friend god knows how I'll get to 10am without eating!!

emilyeggs Mon 05-Nov-12 18:29:40

Ha ha clarella date up the fanjo! grin

PurplePidjin Mon 05-Nov-12 18:29:48

Nipple tweaking stimulates oxytocin production according to my antenatal classes.

I definitely swing between "oh, so tiny" when looking at vaby clothes etc and "holy fuck how does something that big get out of there"

emilyeggs Mon 05-Nov-12 18:34:27

So now we are talking poos pills dates plugs and piles! So funny!

MyDaydream Mon 05-Nov-12 18:36:46

Stacey not eating made me feel really woozy, so if you don't feel well tell them and they'll let you have a lay down. I didn't say anything until the very end but they were lovely and made me wish I'd said something earlier, they were very happy to get me a cup of tea before I left.
I keep holding baby clothes/shoes up to my bump and panicking. I think I was a big-ish baby too so convinced I'm going to have a giant, with massive feet and hands just like daddies!
MaMa I think hot, sweet drinks get them going, isn't that one of the things they suggest if you don't feel movement? Or it's one of the things that gets mine going at least.

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 19:15:44

Good to hear its poss not to poo in labour smile

Such good news about Dash honey! grin

Oo post preg piles I shall be demanding
this as was amazing at dealing with some <issues> caused a few years ago following quite a while not being on right dose of thyroxine for a year resulting in extreme constipation - tend to only use for a couple of days and you're sorted. But I will be checking its ok to bf. Its a clear ointment not horrid white, and has hc plus a mild anesthetic. The anusol hc was actually prescribed to me the other day but decided to stick to the bog standard for now. and actually not needing at mo smile

Had the most ferocious bh coupled with Lo pushing himself under ribs in car earlier I stalled on a roundabout unable to lean forward to do anything - all ok but rather mad - felt like whole body was filled with concrete and then a balloon had been inflated inside me - doubting yoga's gonna be much good tonight but want to give kind lady who gave me a ton of baby stuff a cake to say thanks.

shock and [worry] at sizes....

Secondsop Mon 05-Nov-12 19:34:24

Is anusol really the name of the pile cream? As if it isn't bad enough asking for pile cream, you have to say the word anusol?

EggsMichelle Mon 05-Nov-12 19:35:16

Welcome Jade!

Had my first antenatal class today, all about active labour,made me quite excited about the actual event. They discussed sex during labour, and apparently orgasms are good for labour (that's a one woman job for you Dating, no man required!)

I wonder how many women poo during labour, but it's cleared away and you never no it happened? And are piles to be expected? I've never had them hmm

Seconds it's ok you don't have to ask for it you can just pick it up off the shelf grin

I don't know anyone who didn't get piles put it that way.....

CODwidow Mon 05-Nov-12 19:38:41

I think sex is only good if your already dilating tbh, nipple tweaking is proven to work or get your uterus contracting anyway (as I learnt during my nurses training) but most women find it goes off once they stop tweaking! grin anything that irritates your bowels will cause your uterus to contract also so dates, pineapple, spicy curry or castor oil/laxatives but whether it puts you into labour is another thing! smile

MyDaydream Mon 05-Nov-12 19:43:24

seconds Anusol is the subject of a recurring argument in our house. DP insists it's pronounced Annus-ol and won't back down, whenever it's mentioned one of us (usually me) gets to look a bit smug and say told you so.

I never got piles and I've had 2 babies do far so it's possible. smile

stacey you need to fast for 12 hours before hand so your last meal may be approaching!

Weird day here, I had a never ending thirst this morning - 3.5l in 2.5 hours! Then I walked to the supermarket and got a huge stitch (probably a 6 on the pain scale) which went after a ten minute sit down. Now I've not really felt him move for a while. Going to try my usual fail safe of a hot drink and if that doesn't shift him think I'll ring the maternity unit.

Very envy of any pile free ladies! I've had them since I was 13 and they're only going to get bloody worse! grin

brooke89 Mon 05-Nov-12 19:53:22

All is fine, went docs then to day assesment so embarrassing that as soon as they put the trace on baby would stop moving after me saying I've hardly felt it!

Ooohh my god at piles talk - I never knew that! And dates up there??!!

brooke89 Mon 05-Nov-12 19:53:42

Wouldnt*

It is pronounced an-you-sole is it not? I used to work in a chemist when I was younger and that's how everyone said it!

emilyeggs Mon 05-Nov-12 20:03:32

I'm sure a 'shove it up your arse' joke is in hear somewhere grin

I didn't poo last time!

Anusol is also very useful to get rid of under eye bags in about 30 seconds... It's what make up artists use on models if they have bags!

Haha lightened my mood guys. Also no pooing last time.. And never had piles?! Wouldn't even know what to look for.
Glad all is ok brooke always safe than sorry!
Lower back ache was bad so had a nice warm bath it seems to have helped a bit thank goodness

Secondsop Mon 05-Nov-12 20:43:45

I am very lucky to have avoided piles, so I don't need to know the correct pronunciation of anusole just yet. I don't understand why it's called something with the word "anus" in it if it's not pronounced that way, unless it's meant to be like an eye-rhyme.

Thanks willyou I had a huge meal at 7.30 but will try and stuff a snack in at 10 or I may not make it back up the hill from the school run tomo!

BH are getting worse and more regular now. Any sort of exercise starts them off which is great as it then makes moving painful!

DH def not swayed at the idea of a home birth so I'll def be going to the birth centre. Hopefully they won't be quite as useless while I'm in labour!

I'm I'm a nice hot bath, it's the only time I feel comfortable, if I v

hmm if I could live in a nice hot bath I would!

EggsMichelle Mon 05-Nov-12 20:54:31

My DH is very sharp tongued and quick witted, and when ever I have had enough of his crap, I tell him to "shove it up his arse". This is very effective as he then gets distracted and starts ranting about my inability to argue properly and I can walk away!!!

Last time I looked I was on maternity leave, today I have completed a child protection assessment, PGD assessment (giving out paracetamol, e45 etc) and filled in DH's job application. That is not what I call being off work!

Secondsop Mon 05-Nov-12 20:56:33

eggsmichelle I have to do my tax return as soon as I start my mat leave sad

cookie if you get them you'll know! They are blood vessels hangong out of you bum succinctly described as "bum grapes" and are itchy and agonising! All you -n-ever wanted to know about piles!

MyDaydream Mon 05-Nov-12 21:11:48

Spotty you've just put a whole new spin on our argument! Which were now having because he's reading over my shoulder!
Cookies the advice I've had (from an over-sharing DP) is that if you've got piles you know about it.

brooke89 Mon 05-Nov-12 21:11:59

Whatever you do don't google image them.....

JoJoB77 Mon 05-Nov-12 21:15:22

I did poo last time blush. I dont remember any of it though, dh informed me (yeah thanks hmm).

I'm still squirming at the diy sweeps discussion up thread... I cant imagine being able to reach up there as it is now but i think i would prefer to do it myself uf i can, although wouldnt really have a clue what i'd be doing!

Glad to hear all is well with Dash honey smile

Hope your hair appointment went well strawberry smile

Welcome jade grin

Well its my last day at work tomorrow for good and im very sad sad ive worked with the same group of people for over 10 years now & made some lifelong friends. I'm ready to finish now tho, its becoming harder to sit bent forward at my desk and i must have yawned about 50 times this afternoon.

Had a few braxton hicks today too but not painful.

Hope everyone is well smile

Bellaboo123 Mon 05-Nov-12 21:16:37

Help please...really dry and itching fango. Any suggestions/ideas what it cld be? Started a couple of hours ago and getting worse...want to rip it out lol!!! blush

Thrush? bella I got it a lot towards the end of my last pregnancy but suffered in silence.. Don't!!

Bellaboo123 Mon 05-Nov-12 21:22:07

Is that what it is I don't think I've ever had it...what can I do to stop it?

giraffe213 Mon 05-Nov-12 21:31:21

Interesting conversations this evening... mmmm dates, I love them anyway so it's a good excuse to eat more. Date flapjacks? I think dates might actually help with not pooing during active labour, rather than making it worse, if they make everything a bit looser so bowels can be emptied during the earlier stages of labour IYSWIM?

MaMaPo, your description of baby jumping around sounds familiar! I nearly asked in my antenatal class if it's possible to have too much movement, when she said baby should move at least 10 times in 24 hours and mine had moved at least 10 times since the class began. I'm thinking it just means baby will be a wrigglebottom like his/her daddy, but it's starting to get a bit painful and I've still got another month to go!

EggsMichelle Mon 05-Nov-12 21:35:36

Brooke I just had to look, some of those are full blown prolapses, another delightful side effect of a VD.

Just had a lot of Ben and Jerry's ice cream and schlur and now Shrimpy is going whappy, too much sugar for my boy!

Natural yoghurt on your fango Bella the best thing is Canestan but you need to get it on prescription while pregnant. Or you could send your DP to tell lies to the pharmacist if he's willing? They won't usually sell it to you while pregnant

PurplePidjin Mon 05-Nov-12 21:38:07

Natural yoghurt on the affected area, and don't use any toiletries in the bath/shower - wash your hair separately if you can (or use baby shampoo, it's milder) put a sanitary pad in place first, it things can get <ahem> messy blush

Get some canestan or vagisil asap, depending on how hard you have to argue with the pharmacist to get it!

Eating natural yoghurt is supposed to be helpful too, to rebalance the bacteria

PurplePidjin Mon 05-Nov-12 21:40:05

Giraffe, i laughed at the midwife when she said 10 in 24h - i get that many before breakfast!

Bellaboo123 Mon 05-Nov-12 21:46:22

Thanks for the tips sending DP off to all night tesco!

X

ISpyPlumPie Mon 05-Nov-12 21:49:09

I'm another one who didn't get piles last time so it isn't inevitable - hope I get away with it again. Also afaik I didn't poo during labour (accept mw may have just dealt with it discretly though) however I did spend what seemed like ages telling everyone in the room that I needed to poo when in fact I need to push a baby out.

Agree that Anusol is a pretty grim name for a product. Vagisil's not much better - suppose they're trying to go for it does what it says on the box, but they didn't think about the poor sods asking for them in the chemist.

Secondsop Mon 05-Nov-12 22:14:32

There's also a tablet called Vagifem sad

emilyeggs Mon 05-Nov-12 22:42:25

Yoghurt on the fanjo....all this healthy food going on/in fanjo some thing good is definitely coming out grin

emilyeggs Mon 05-Nov-12 22:44:57

Isn't anusol pronounced anus-hole?
Mini eggs has been going crazy fir tha last three days! Can't complain though as I'd worry if s/he didn't move fir a few hours!

Clarella Mon 05-Nov-12 23:02:29

Well nice to see the fango conversation is still going strong, with the current ingredients we're almost able to make a date muffin in our - err muffin (ep oil, yoghurt, dates, seasoned with raspberry leaf tea....) ;)

Eating lots of live yoghurt definitely kept / keeps thrush at bay for me when I discovered that trick a couple of years ago but a proper infection prob needs some canesten - never got round to putting the yoghurt down there but apparently very good.

Hi Clarella, there's no way I'm eating dates given how they might make me a bit loose and more likely to poo everywhere in labour. There are dates in sticky toffee pudding so I'll try that instead smile). I think semen contains the prostaglandins that are used to induce you at the hospital. Thank you for the suggestion anyway x

Hi daydream, it is pronounced ann-us-ol.
I used to work for a medical rep company who used to flog it and stuff for scabies sad. Yuck.

2blessed Mon 05-Nov-12 23:40:42

At my antenatal class the midwife advised against anything that would make poo loose during labour. Purely for their own sakes as the more sold the poo, the easier it is for them to get rid of it.
Can't believe I'm still awake!

Getting back to the lovely discussion on piles - someone (I'm really sorry I can't remember who) said they don't know anyone who didn't have them. I don't want to tempt fate but I don't have any issues in that department at the moment. I was wondering if its because my little bugger baby is transverse and tucked right up by my ribs so not pressing on my bowels etc (does that make sense??). Knowing my luck I'll get all the nasty bits right at the last week when I think I've escaped the worst of it (although I do have horrific SPD). X

I would really like to sleep now.

Oh whoever has thrush once it's treated, to keep it at bay you can use lavender and tea tree oil in your bath instead of other products. I've found this helps a lot (had thrush on and off due to lots of antibiotics this pregnancy).

Can I just say I don't ask everyone I know with children if they got piles wink just the ones who have discussed it all got them grin

Mamas & Papas order due today!

Walnut8 Tue 06-Nov-12 06:40:15

I don't think I had piles after DD ... and I'm not sure if I pooed. DH says he didnt see any but the MWs probably got rid of it. I'm not sure how it's possible not to poo TBH?! grin

We have finally set up the cot and change table ... but I'm really unsure what to do about the mattress for the cot and moses. If I'm going to order new ones I really need to do it asap though. Sigh.

I moved last night on the couch and had a gush of fluid which really freaked me out. I think it was just wee though confused as it didn't keep on leaking, like waters ...

Walnut8 Tue 06-Nov-12 06:50:31

Urgh and have my consultant appointment tomorrow. Dreading it. Whoever it was that asked (sorry can't remember), it's the same consultant every time - over here where I live we pay (a lot of money) for a private obstetrician to look after us through the whole pregnancy hmm

Maybe it'll be better this time 'Walnut* I think I didn't poo last time because I'd been that morning and had been sick every half an hour for the whole night before and wasn't allowed anything to eat grin must have been empty!

Queenofsiburbia Tue 06-Nov-12 07:43:25

Hi all,

Cant believe 17 pages shock!!
And grin at the discussions!

Im abit grossed out by the poo situ & it's certainly a factor in my reluctance to be in birth pool at pushing stage (who wants to avoid a floater sailing past at that point?!)

I'm hoping the early stage D&V will clear me out.

I'm amazed by that date study clarella and will be trying it I think. Does it still work if wrapped in bacon I wonder!

I'm going swimming first thing this morning (really wish I could move in to the pool, & the jacuzzi also is heaven!!!) then going to see grumpy mean midwife. Gotta have an awkward conversation to find out if it's her who will come & see me after the birth. I don't want her to sad.

Morning everyone. Well got my GTT this morning. I'm not looking forward to it and I can't see much reason as nothing has shown up in my urine so far. Ho hum the joys of pregnancy.

Well I just hung out my washing with gloves on! Lol it's soooo cold, but at least it's dry and sunny!

FriendofDorothy Tue 06-Nov-12 08:29:52

I quite enjoyed my GTT. It gave me a couple of hours to sit down and relax with my book!

pmgkt Tue 06-Nov-12 08:37:05

If you poo in the pool the scoop it out with a sieve! Nice.

MaMaPo Tue 06-Nov-12 08:38:45

Stacey, are you having the GTT because of your blood results, or something else? I ask because my urine tests have all been clear and I finally got bloods done last week which are also OK, so I am assuming (but don't know for certain) that this means I don't have to go for the GTT.

Giraffe, I'm also wondering if all my manic movement means I am going to have a super excitable child! Will have to plan to swaddle, I think.

Such a glorious lie-in this morning - I have been taking a day of annual leave every week for the last few, but so far it hasn't been even slightly relaxing as I've been up and about at the normal time rushing all over London. By now I've usually already done the chaos of the tube commute and have already got stuck into work, but here I am in bed, about to go and make breakfast. Also got a cuddle from my husband as we woke up. Blissful.

Off for some physio this morning to sort out my hip pain. Hopefully it's a one-session issue...

Stacey you're mad will your washing not freeze?! We have a pretty solid ground frost here!

MamaPo mine goes crazy I think he might be an octopus. Tesco have some swaddle me swaddle blankets for under a fiver (I think it's because the colours aren't so pretty) but usually a three pack is £25 so I think I'll order a couple of those

PurplePidjin Tue 06-Nov-12 09:24:47

dating and cookies did you get the group pm? I'm not sure i did it right! Pmgkt's reply only came to me, perhaps i need to start a thread?

It's nippy down here but no frost smile

EggsMichelle Tue 06-Nov-12 10:48:42

I have spent the morning taxi-ing DH around Nottingham trying to get university people to sign paper work, I have to keep reminding myself there are only 4wks left of this and he is finished, plus he did buy me a big posh coffee, so for that I am greatful! Got some very colourful sleep suits from Saisburys.

mamapo nope not from bloods it was because my dad has type 2 diabeties but they didn't actually book my in earlier for some unknown reason.

Well I'm home having not had the GTT as I'm over 34 wks so I have a blood sugar machine to monitor myself for a week to check out my levels.

spotty the subs out here and we're up to 5 degrees lol, I'll need to warm the washing on radiators later but it should get mainly dry out there!

2blessed Tue 06-Nov-12 11:14:03

spotty thanks for the tip about tesco swaddles, think that's the only thing I don't have.
My LO woke me up with a tea dance this morning as opposed to zumba, was grateful for the change in tempo.

Just wondering, what order do we out the dates, yogurt, evening primrose oil capsules up there?!?

Maybe epo first as it needs to be nearest the cervix, then dates (I'm still unsure on this one), then yoghurt to treat the general area grin

FriendofDorothy Tue 06-Nov-12 11:36:38

I am so not shoving a pile of groceries up my fanjo!

You could whizz up the yoghurt with dates a la Jamie Oliver then it may be more manageable dorothy?

WeeJo08 Tue 06-Nov-12 11:58:52

Fanjo smoothies - the next big thing grin

utopian99 Tue 06-Nov-12 12:45:24

Fanjo smoothies just made me choke on my (fake filthy decaff) coffee!

On another slightly icky note - my nipples work, hurrah! Am simultaneously relieved and slightly grossed out...

EggsMichelle Tue 06-Nov-12 13:01:22

My nipples itch!

Queenofsiburbia Tue 06-Nov-12 13:22:35

<looks at M&S smoothie dubiously & without appetite>

utopian on the last thread I mentioned about my nipps reacting to owls screeching at night confused.
That is both icky and odd.

A friend's were set off every morning by a local cockerel. (note careful use of the full word there ;-)

Mine were set off whilst watching x factor and bouncing on the ball on Saturday night. I had to lie down for a minute it freaked me out hugely, was convinced I wouldn't need breast pads until after having the baby, on the plus side the pads make my boobs look about a size bigger (which I could do with).

PurplePidjin Tue 06-Nov-12 14:50:50

Mine itch, I've got washable breast pads in to protect them blush

Got the cutest outfit for Christmas day in Tesco - grey fleece dungarees with a Rudolph face and antlers on the picket and coordinating red long sleeved body suit. Nice and comfortable for travelling and only a fiver! Can't find it on the website to show you, though. I got 0-3 rather than any smaller, hope it fits confused

Lovely asda man delivered my shopping today. And took it all straight to my kitchen. I thoroughly recommend online shopping. The thought of stepping foot in a supermarket while this big is enough to bring tears to my eyes.

I'm making carrot soup out of my nearly past their best carrots. And I've picked the apples hanging over from next doors tree to make apple crumble later (when I can be arsed). I feel very domesticated!

We only ever online shop given that the nearest big supermarket it 30-40 minutes drive away and it's impossible to budget when I go in there! Also toddlers and food shopping don't match...

I just got my electricity bill (we're all electric here as no mains gas) and we're £266 in credit, is it sad that that makes me so happy?!

Oooo I'd love some apple crumble! We're having (shop bought!) pie and mash for dinner. Not something I would usually eat but it's proper winter comfort food and I still have red cabbage left over yummy!

2blessed Tue 06-Nov-12 15:04:46

I'm with you stacey on the internet shopping. Before pregnancy I would do an internet shop maybe every few months as I don't drive. Now I'm pregnant and living on my own it just makes my life so much easier.

My right nipple tends to burn and get itchy every now and then.

MyDaydream Tue 06-Nov-12 15:32:33

Love shopping online, everything gets brought in for me and I don't have to deal with people who really are old enough to understand shopping! Hated the couple of weeks when we had no Internet for me to do a proper shop.
My nipples feel like they're trying to rip themselves off whenever I get cold. It's so painful, and I feel a bit silly holding onto my tits trying to warm them up!
We're going to a bit of a party tonight but I don't know how lively ill be, I can't wake myself up today. I was supposed to be dying my hair and can't even be bothered doing that.

envy at the delivery driver bringing your shopping in for you! Mine just stand at the door waiting for me to lift it out the crates!

pidj replied to mail.. I have a message from you but no one else?

More mucus today but not as big amount as yesterday. Going to DAU tomorrow so going to ask about it then.

Oh my I thought the dates fanjo thing was a joke shock I was ok with the EPO but ACTUAL food produce?!

I battled Tesco with dd (3) today, live near by so cannot justify online shopping, Was hard! More of a workout than my Aquanatal this morning!
stacey very domesticated indeed <impressed>

EggsMichelle Tue 06-Nov-12 15:47:37

Spotty I'm having pie and mash as well tonight,DH is back to work tonight, and won't be home until Friday evening so having a comfort tea before he leaves. I haven't done Internet shopping in years, but might have to in December just so I don't have to take Shrimpy out in the cold. Pidj my Dsis is bought Shrimpy that outfit for Xmas, can't wait to dress him up, not sure what size she picked though.

Shrimpy was having a very active day, and getting quite uncomfortable, however since doing the hoovering he has settled down, I wonder if it was the hum of the Hoover or me rocking back and forth that settled him?

Cookies I live quite close too but you can get delivery slots for £3 from asda, it's so worth it!

spotty next time ask them to carry it in, most don't mind and can do it a lot quicker than you trying.

Well carrot soup is cooked and ready for dinner (ready for DH to moan that soup is not a meal yadda yadda yadda <yawn>) I'll be eating it for a few days as there's no room in the freezer lol. Got a big joint of brisket to slow cook tomo which should be nice! The apple crumble has yet to happen lol.

I know I should but then they will make muddy foot prints angry I should send them round the back! grin

Eggs it was probably both but most likely the rocking. You know what you're going to be doing for the next six months after the birth don't you wink

I'm so hungry might have to do dinner early.... Have text dp asking him to get some of those hot chocolate sponge puddings mmmm also got my changing bag delivered yay!

Lol spotty well I haven't mopped the floors for a week so I doubt his boots made an impact [slattern emoticon]

Ooo choc pudding!

Clarella Tue 06-Nov-12 17:24:19

I really have to add that the dates are to be eaten.... just in case.....

Not a good day to get new phone and bugger up contacts list - two new baby announcements, worked out who first is but can't for the life of me work out the other ..... was with nct ladies this avo, racking brains and old phone for other one - very rude to say 'congratulations!' - which baby is this? !?

Argh DP bought a chocolate browni pudding not the hot chocolate sponge I asked for, I hate to be ungrateful but I really don't like that brownie thing enough to warrant the extra injection etc sad plus I have a headache

EggsMichelle Tue 06-Nov-12 19:01:04

I suppose I should do more hoovering, a dog and two cats create a lot of fur tumble weeds!

Spotty you can send that brownie my way if you don't want it, I'm finishing off my Ben and Jerry's from last night!

WeeJo08 Tue 06-Nov-12 19:07:12

Stacey I made apple crumble last night & we still have half left over for tonight! Yum! We're also having mash tonight, Spotty, but with sausages and beans grin I love comfort food!

emilyeggs Tue 06-Nov-12 19:31:45

Came home with one swollen ankle (with a sock dent in it) sad didn't sit down at all today apart for about half hour on my lunch. Stupid retail, stupid Estée Lauder, ready to go now sad

FriendofDorothy Tue 06-Nov-12 20:24:21

I am a horrible emotional mess tonight. I am really feeling vulnerable and i think that is because I don't feel like I can make an preparation for the baby. We are still living with my Mum and Dad and I just feel like we have no space to put anything.

I am being completely unreasonable and it is definitely the hormones!

CODwidow Tue 06-Nov-12 20:52:17

Well had a great day Xmas shopping with my sister although 5 hrs trawling shops at 34+6 weeks means slight backache! But still feeling pretty good so making the most of it. Plus I have 4 ds's and this little one to buy for this year so need/want to be organised.
I'm rubbish at online food shopping and always take hours trying to sort out what I need and in what size maybe someone could give me some tips grin
Off for last lot of bloods tomorrow can't believe how quick it's come round and then I have my strep b swab next Tuesday. Ds2 was born at 36+4 so starting to feel that it could be anytime soon.

Secondsop Tue 06-Nov-12 20:53:33

Friendofdorothy I am also feeling really emotional and upset today. Why dont you try what im trying - find something (anything) positive to "rescue the day" (favourite programme, book, snack or loveky cup of tea or chocolate, whatever lifts your spirits at all), then have an early night and hope for better luck tomorrow x

CODwidow Tue 06-Nov-12 20:56:09

fod hopefully it'll pass soon! I felt like that last week as dh works ridiculously long hrs usually 6 days a week and I had a major meltdown about how I'll manage 5dcs and schoolwork. But this week when I look back it was definately hormonal and although it's still a worry I had totally blown it all out of normality!

Bellaboo123 Tue 06-Nov-12 21:08:05

fod hot bath and early night might help...I'm noticing I'm getting more and more hormonal/emotional in these last few weeks.

Currently sitting in bed on MN while DP is downstairs...we're officially not talking! He keeps on at me about cutting down my hours at work, yesterday I decided to bring my ML forward a week but he's still going on at me to do half days etc. I don't feel like I want to, I really enjoy my job and have already made a conscious effort to cut back. I've worked really hard for 15 years to get when I am and if I'm honest it's going to be a huge void when I start ML. I'm feeling ok and the LO is ok so shouldn't he just let me decide as I know how I'm feeling? I know he's only caring but it's suffocating me...anyone else feel the same or am I crazy??? Rant over angry

Oh also am envy of everyone's leaking nipples...mine haven't started working yet.

Sorry for long post!!!

pmgkt Tue 06-Nov-12 21:40:34

bella my dh is the same, and keeps nagging about when i was going to stop. i do a physical job but enjoy it as its the only time i get time away from looking after ds1 (much as i love him its nice to have non baby company). i will be leaving at 36 weeks and am beginning to feel that actually he was right - damn him. i was happy to work a little longer.

Sorry to whinge but I've had a bloody awful day. I went to see my mw who said that although I have perfect blood pressure I have too much protein in my urine so sent off some bloods for pre-eclampsia. It would explain my puffed up face and revolting feet.
When I got home I thought I'd start painting the nursery - just the edges to begin with. I managed to spill a whole huge pot of paint all over the nursery carpet, hall and bathroom. It was a disaster. So I then spent the next hour shampooing the carpet with my little carpet shampooer. Mum then went out and hired a bigger carpet cleaner but I've now shagged my back up again pushing that bloody heavy thing around the house. Unfortunately we can't claim on insurance as we aren't covered for contents cover. Grrrrr. Sorry to vent so much, I just wanted to share my despair.
I hope you are all ok xxx

pmgkt Tue 06-Nov-12 22:41:35

Oh dear dating. Tomorrow will be a new day and let's hope its better

brooke89 Tue 06-Nov-12 23:00:00

Oh no dating sounds a nightmare, early night and hope tomorrow is better for you!

MaMaPo Tue 06-Nov-12 23:21:26

Oh dating, how rubbish. I am with the overly emotional camp today - just lost it in the middle of cooking dinner (poor husband who'd done a 12 hour day came to the rescue) and feeling generally crap about myself. If I'd spilled paint I'd probably be sitting in the middle of it crying, let alone being proactive to clean it up.

I'd better feel better tomorrow - wedding anniversary so we're off for a fancy dinner.

I know it's all hormones but I keep sitting here trying to analyse why I feel so shit about things. My life is great! Bah. Stupid hormones.

Secondsop Wed 07-Nov-12 00:13:34

Oh dating. I would have burst into tears at that, 100%. Hope you (or preferably someone else) manage to get it cleaned up ok.

We're taking the possibly mad decision to redo the bathroom in my first week of maternity leave. I wish it could be done next week while I'm still at work but the man isn't free till the week after. I know it'll be better to do it now than after the baby is here but the prospect is so unappealing. Plus I now have to make a load of decisions about what things to buy. We do sort of need to have it done because at present, the bath shape is such that it's almost impossible to stop water leaking down through the house when we shower, even with an arrangement of shower curtain and sponge, and we've been using it like that for a year and I'm worried that it's causing damage elsewhere.

Worst headache ever. No paracetamol as usual becatse dp has taken it all and not replaced it angrysad

2blessed Wed 07-Nov-12 03:04:03

Sorry to hear about your headache spotty
I'm heading back to bed after waking up at 12. Think my heating/hot water isnt working, for last 3 hours ive been trying to run a bath but water isnt getting hot enough. I want to cry sad

That's rubbish it's pretty cold tonight too. Do found some paracetamol it has yet to kick in though. I'm on mn trying to distract me from feeling sick. Dp now worried about PE as this was part of it last time I think it's the maltesers I ate before bed

Walnut8 Wed 07-Nov-12 04:36:18

Oh no spotty, I hope you are okay and it's just the maltesers! sad

Sorry to everyone who has had a crap day. Sounds like there are a lot of you sad datingthedevil poor you, I agree with whoever said they would still be sitting in it crying! I hope it gets cleaned up as painlessly as possible (and hopefully by someone else!)

Our place here is a pigsty after finally unpacking and putting together the last of the newborn equipment. I feel like I have no room to move anymore and it's getting on my nerves. There are packing boxes everywhere, which is fine as I know they will eventually go, but the rest of our furniture has also had to be squashed up to fit things in and I hate it. I keep tripping over everything! Have to wait until Sunday to try to reconfigure things too, as we have a wedding all day and night saturday (can't wait ... urgh).

BTW got my results back today (greenish discharge) and turns out to be thrush and also showed positive for group B strep, which I don't like the sound of but is apparently fairly common. I have to go into hospital for a swab though if I get another gush of fluid like the other night, just in case it is waters ...

Walnut8 Wed 07-Nov-12 06:15:49

Have just been reading up on group B strep etc. Does anyone have any experience of this? Just wondering what happens during labour, eg how long will I be on a drip for antiBs - will I be hooked up for the whole labour or just for a dose?

Headache went in the end phew! Sorry walnut I don't know anything about it confused

Also dating hope your results are clear for PE are you swollen everywhere even in the morning?

Oh it sounds like we are all having a shitty time. My sugar levels were up last night. The diabetic midwife said we want them under 6 before meals and under 8 an hour later. Mine were 6.7 before dinner (homemade carrot soup and bread) and 9.3 after. But she did tell me not to change my diet yet. On the plus side if I do have GD then she said I def won't go over 40 weeks. Every cloud and all that confused

I hope everyone's day gets better. I've got dentist today to try and sort out my tooth after the abscess, oh my life is full of joy! Lol

Oh Stacey that is high, when do you go back? Make sure you tell the dentist too as high sugar levels can effect healing time/infection rates etc. I would also avoid sugary foods until you have spoken to someone (I know she said not to change your diet but you don't want it to go really high)

AlisonDB Wed 07-Nov-12 08:06:13

Dating, hope you get that sorted.

Well another night another nightmare!!

My poor DS who is 5 has been waking the past week every night with bad dreams, he gets so upset and frustrated as he can't remember anything about them once he is awake, he seems happy enough through the day and is do excited at the thought of baby coming, so I'm not quite sure what is causing them?!

My DH has been banished to the spare room (on the 2nd floor) so he isn't hearing DS crying, I am,
Anyway last night DS was so upset and I was so tired that he ended up sleeping in with me, (which was lovely actually) he fell asleep with his hand on bump and if I heard him making noises I could (in my sleep) make sssshhing noises or stroke his hair etc... So we both slept well from around 1am.

Now DH is in a bit of a nark with me, (cos he hates the spare bed) and is like "well if he can sleep next to you why can't I?"

Grrrrrrrrr!!!
Just not to sure what to do now, (my DS is a typical give him an inch and he'll take a mile kind of boy)
I don't want to get him used to sharing mums bed, but the thought of me abandoning him to just get on with his bad dreams makes me feel horrid!

Oh the joys!
Hope everyone has a better day today
Xx

Alison I think it's more important you reassure your ds at the moment rather than your dp wink I'm sure he is really excited about the baby but he is still quite young and might subconsciously be having trouble processing things.

JoJoB77 Wed 07-Nov-12 08:21:33

Morning all smile

Havent caught up properly so apologies if i miss anything.

walnut i tested positive for strep b with DD. i had iv antibiotics during labour which was a dose every 4 hours. I was free to move about between doses & it didnt affect me in anyway. I'm having a swab next tuesday to see if i'm positive this time around too.

I've had lower back ache & pressure pains low down at the front since yesterday. Was do uncomfortable last night sad i have midwife check this morning so will see what she says.

Oh spotty is it that bad?! Well I've got her mobile number and she's on duty today and tomo so I'll see how my levels are today and ring tomo if they stay high.

alison I think helping your ds through this is important tell your DH that youve sent him away so he's not disturbed by ds not because you don't want him next to you. I think your ds may be having problems with it. My dcs are so excited but because I'm so uncomfy and moody they're finding it hard to cope. Give him lots of reassurance and cuddles (i get the feeling I'm teaching you to suck eggs!) lol

Clarella Wed 07-Nov-12 08:31:38

Oh dear everyone seems to be having a yucky time sad hope you're ok spotty.

I do sympathise fod, it's really hard not having your own space in order to have all the control over making the space for your babe as you would like it as well as for you two. And dating what an awful paint situation, that would be horrid when not pregnant. Has it come out?

Don't know much about due strep b thing walnut - they should be able to help you at the hospital though? Do we need to request strep b test or is it offered? Hope you get sorted out soon. And totally sympathise on the falling over boxes/power tools/bags of plaster; this baby will be conditioned to be a free runner when it comes out.

After 2 full nights of sleep I was awake from 2 right through to 6 (mulling over consultant appt this avo n getting stressed - I think my thyroid levels are finally ok at tsh 0.2 from <0.05, t4 15.3 worried they won't) when we all had to get up incase the builders remember/bother to come (didn't last week ) but nice to think our Chinese dragon babies will also be born under Obama!

Sling meet this morn to keep me from murdering a builder ....

Alison, your Dh needs to remember how many actual kids there are / will be in your household. Serve him alphabet spaghetti for tea.

JoJo maybe baby is engaging?!

Stacey my post meal readings have to be below 7.8. Anything above 8 I consider high and anything in double figures I consider unacceptable (doesn't mean I don't get them though!). Yes I would see what your pre and post lunch time ones are. Have you done a pre breakfast one? (I may have missed that)

WeeJo08 Wed 07-Nov-12 08:51:21

Morning everyone! Sorry to hear of emotional-ness/painting disasters/sore backs/DCs with bad dreams sad Hope things improve today.

DH and I are both working from home today. We have arranged to do this each Wednesday until due date (so only twice for me as I finish for ML next Friday). Primarily it's because we have our antenatal classes from today. After all the hassle with MW availability it seems to be settled that they will squash everything into 2 sessions. Looking forward to it smile

Are Group B strep tests offered where you guys are? I thought they weren't standard?

spotty they only gave me 20 needles and 20 strips so she said to only test breakfast and dinner yest, then lunch and bedtime today and so on. I think it's because they're not sure if I have it or not. Right I'll see what happens at lunchtime and go from there. Thanks for the help I'm so lost with all this. Are you diet/tablets/insulin regulated? Have they told you you'll be induced? Sorry for asking I'm sure you've mentioned before but my brain is mush!

I'm insulin but I've been diabetic for thirteen years grin they won't 'let me' go over 38 weeks but I think with gestational diabetes it's different and dependent on whether you're on medication or not. Tbh I didn't think you would have it either with the only risk factor being your dad! They will probably give you a growth scan pretty soon now I would have thought.

They woman said if we can control it with diet (if I have it of course) then they won't let me go over 40 wks. If I have to have any medication then it will be 38 wks. I'm 34+3 now! <gulp> growth scan sounds good though! Lol oh the joys. Right off to the dentist! What a fun packed day!

WeeJo08 Wed 07-Nov-12 09:05:28

Sorry for posting again so quickly but have a quick question. My ankles were quite swollen last night but I put it down to walking around yesterday - here still swollen this morning and that was first thing when I got out of bed. Is this normal?

WeeJo I always think if they're down in the morning then it's fine so if they're not I would give the mw a ring

FriendofDorothy Wed 07-Nov-12 09:15:26

Group B strep is offered as standard where I am. I have a midwife appointmetn in 2 weeks when I will be 36 weeks pregnant and they do it then.

emilyeggs Wed 07-Nov-12 09:16:40

wejo I'm also worried, I had one foot more swollen that the other last night and it still looks puffy to me this morning! It's not massive but I can tell as I know my own feet

I'm with spotty if they go down overnight I think it's fine if not ring the midwife. Esp if you have a headache or anything too.

EggsMichelle Wed 07-Nov-12 09:29:46

Oh dear, yesterday was not a good day, hope everyone has a better day today. I must finish one of my big jobs today, I've been off work for 2wks and only done one of my big nesting jobs (oops) so today I will finish knitting my niece's blanket.

DH is away until Friday, so I have three days of guilt free pj days and being as lazy as possible!

Walnut8 Wed 07-Nov-12 09:31:09

Hope the dentist goes okay stacey.

Thanks for that jojo! Do they just hook you up to an IV for a few minutes for the ABs or is it an hour or so? I was imagining I might have to have a drip in from the minute my waters broke!

I was told that my doctor does a strep test anyway at 37 weeks. Also told that up to 40% of women have it (symptomless) so pretty common and will need antibiotics once labour starts but just to protect the baby, doesn't cause any problems with the mother herself. I do remember when I had DD (in London) I requested a test from my MW as my friend tested positive when pregnant and was talking about it (should have listened more carefully!). It wasnt standard. It came back clear though so I didn't have anything further.

I had a swollen foot last time and the MW kept a close eye on it but it was just an old injury swelling I think.

ISpyPlumPie Wed 07-Nov-12 10:05:06

Morning everyone,

Sorry to hear that so many of you had a bad time yesterday. Hope today is a better one.

Just waiting in for the mw at the mo - she's doing my home birth assessment visit. Think it's just to check there's enough space/access to power points etc but didn't stop me doing frantic cleaning anyway. Also need to check with her I've gathered all the bits and pieces I need, as well as asking whether they can lend me a pool. If not, think this afternoon will be spent frantically trying to arrange one - still can't get my head round the fact that from Tue next week I'm considered 'term' from a hb pov so need to have everything sorted.

Exciting ISpy!

Right top tip ladies laying in a dentist chair for 25 minutes is likely to make you faint!

Oh yes, I was sick when I last did that pregnant with dd! Poor dentist had to hold my hair back! Your dentist really should have known that Stacey and done it sitting up hmm

He did it sitting up after I fainted, with a pillow behind my head and a fan on me, then wouldn't let me leave for about 20 mins. I've had the dizzy horrible stuff a lot through this pregnancy, hot sweaty, have to sit down right then (in the middle of shopping malls/in the woods while dog walking. That wouldn't be to do with blood sugar would it? Never thought of it before but my brain is adding 2 and 2 and probably getting 5.

That could well be a sign of your sugar level going too low it's different for everyone but I get hot/sweaty/irritable/dizzy.

My belly button is really sore and also feels bruised sad

And what exactly have you been doing to your belly button? Lol is baby kicking round there?

I get a bruised feeling after my funny pins and needles at the top of bump, but that's apparantly baby laying on a nerve. hmm

EggsMichelle Wed 07-Nov-12 11:28:10

I think I'll stay away from the dentist for now, wait until the Shrimp is not squashing my veins! I have a bruised feeling belly button too, it's hideous and covered in stretch marks, I blame my silly piercing.

JoJoB77 Wed 07-Nov-12 11:37:14

walnut i think it did take half hour/an hour or so to have each dose smile

Well i'm back from midwife and i have traces of leuc and blood confused. That could explain my pains as baby is still free from my pelvis although is head down. Ive just bought some cranberry juice so going to drink loads of it today in the hope if helps flush any baddies out and then see what sample cones back with.

Hope everyone has better days today smile

ISpyPlumPie Wed 07-Nov-12 11:47:34

That sounds traumatic Stacey - hope you have a well-earned rest this afternoon.

MW has just left. Everything is fine - head is quite far down (brim rather than engaged though) so not imagining the pressure I've been feeling. All looking good for a hb if LO hangs on until Tuesday.

Oh ispy that sounds good! Glad you should be getting the birth you want. I'm heading to bed for the afternoon! smile

Walnut8 Wed 07-Nov-12 12:18:54

Thanks for that JoJo. Did you have to go into hospital for the ABs as soon as you started getting contractions? Am slightly worried about being a couple of hours away from hospital at a wedding this weekend (staying the night at the hotel) but will only be 36 weeks so unlikely anything will happen. BTW loads and loads of water supposed to be just as good as flushing out UTIs. Hope all okay though.

Hope you have a good rest stacey.

Eggs I have an old navel piercing and its all red and stretched and awful! Stretch marks this time around have been generally much much worse than with DD though. Oh well, what can you do. Many worse things could happen!

great news Ispy.

Great news ISpy

I feel ill today, really tired and sick with added heartburn sad I think my belly button is sore where the skin that is usually tucked away is rubbing on my tops and stuff, not sure about the bruised feeling but it's mainly around old stretchmarks which are/were quite bad where my belly button was pierced!

EggsMichelle Wed 07-Nov-12 12:42:07

Everyone warned against getting tattoos on the belly, but no one warned me about the navel piercing, I don't think I would have had it done off I had known the mess it would make. Oh well, if I ever have a daughter I can warn her!

ISpy you will have to keep your legs firmly clamped together until Tuesday.

It's OK Eggs it doesn't look so bad after, mine has closed up now anyway and I still wore a bikini on holiday grin

HoneyMum21 Wed 07-Nov-12 12:49:09

Dash is coming home today smile sorry, will catch up on all the reading later but am so excited!

WOW!!! He must be doing really well Honey! So pleased for you, it's the best feeling ever smile

PurplePidjin Wed 07-Nov-12 12:57:46

Hurrah!

JoJoB77 Wed 07-Nov-12 12:58:40

Fantastic news honey, i can only imagine how excited you must be!

walnut no i didnt go straight to hospital, they wanted me to stay at home until they got more regular/stronger. Perhaps because it was my first and they thought i would have lots of time, i'm not sure. In the end we made our way to the hospital (an hour away) when i could bear no more, was 4cm dilated on arrival and they started antibs then.

I'm sure you will be fine for the wedding although it doesnt stop you worrying. Hope you have a lovely day smile

pmgkt Wed 07-Nov-12 13:00:42

Ah how lovely, and that is really quick. Well done. I bet it doesn't feel real.

gilsbubbles Wed 07-Nov-12 13:04:42

honey so happy for you and dash, you must be do exited

Yey so happy for you honey enjoy your cuddles in the comfort of home, must be sooo lovely. He must be doing great smile

emilyeggs Wed 07-Nov-12 13:07:14

Hip hip hooray honey! That's great news grin

Equimum Wed 07-Nov-12 13:09:43

Honey That's fantastic news - so pleased for you all.

EggsMichelle Wed 07-Nov-12 13:26:35

Whoopi Honey, welcome home Dash!

Woohoo well done baby Dash !!!

ISpyPlumPie Wed 07-Nov-12 13:42:59

Wonderful news Honey - well done Dash!

CODwidow Wed 07-Nov-12 13:44:52

I will be swabbed for strep b as had it with ds2 he was taken to scbu and given antibiotics after he was born. I didn't know I had it so this time I'll be tested. But saying that I have no idea how the antibiotics work except they have to be given in labour. Only problem I have is ds4 was born within 40 mins of arriving at hospital so I'll wait for results and deal with it then.

CODwidow Wed 07-Nov-12 13:45:13

Ooo and congrats * honey*

itsMYNutella Wed 07-Nov-12 14:33:01

Congratulations Honey that is fantastic news!! So pleased for you both smile

They do a swab here as routine for Strep B and something else at my next appointment.
Apparently baby isn't quite as big as it should be confused trouble is the Dr sent DP out of the room for my "exam" so we are both not quite sure we've understood how much of a problem it might be; or of course might not be - bloomin translating while preggo is not easy!!

itsMYNutella Wed 07-Nov-12 14:46:59

Just to clarify - single sex showers!!! Not mixed showers. Although mixed sauna hmm is ok .... Mind you I don't wear my contacts or glasses while in the sauna grin I only put my glasses on at the sauna when walking around - looking people in the eye only - or reading...

knottyhair Wed 07-Nov-12 14:50:34

Hi everyone! I don't post very often on here but I do lurk a lot! Just wanted to send massive congratulations to Honey and baby Dash - great news. Also, with regard to the Strep b swabs, there was an article in Prima Baby a couple of months ago about this, recommending that you buy a test for £35 (there are various places to get them from - I've ordered mine from www.medisave.co.uk). The article basically said that they are not offered routinely by the NHS but even when they are, they usually use a High Vaginal Swab (HVS) which is less reliable than the Enriched Culture Medium (ECM) method which is the one you buy. Apparently the HVS can give a false negative. The test from Medisave is free with free postage, but you pay £35 to the lab when you send it off for processing. Apparently it needs to be done between 35-37 weeks. Just wanted to draw your attention to this so we can all make an informed decision.

nutella I think you're confused grin blame baby brain!

Secondsop Wed 07-Nov-12 14:51:52

Great news Honey!

stacey I have GD; it was diet controlled for a couple of weeks but I'm now gradually building up the metformin dose as diet control didn't enable me to eat enough food - eg I lost 5lb in one week which the diabetic nurse agreed was suboptimal when 33 weeks pregnant! I'm now finding metformin does help me eat a bit more, and I'm a lot less frustrated with it than I was when first diagnosed.

When I was diet controlled I was told that I definitely wouldn't go over my due date and that I would probably be induced at around 38 weeks but may be able to run on a bit longer if everything was going brilliantly. Now that I'm on metformin I've been told that I'll almost certainly be induced at/by 38 weeks. Which I am all for! Better out than in.

itsMYNutella Wed 07-Nov-12 14:56:55

Ha ha ha ha Fantastic cross thread post smile

Whoops! That'll teach me to join in the discussion - with fellow expats in Germany- about going to the Sauna! blush

MyDaydream Wed 07-Nov-12 14:57:23

I went through a phase a few weeks back where I was convinced the skin where my belly button used to be pierced was going to rip it hurt so much. I really wish I'd listened to my mum and step sister when they told me not to get it done!
honey that's great news about dash, he must be doing so well.
Had my MW appointment and she's booked my next one at the hospital for me to see the birth centre and write/go through my birth plan. It's all very scary how close its getting now. One of our friends who's a holiday rep came back from her summer job Monday and went to her winter job today, she didn't even know I was pregnant and when we see her next I'll have a squishy little baby tagging on. We went to a get together to catch up last night and so many people were saying "if we don't see you before, good luck" to me when I left.
Going to ikea with my mum tonight and very excited (love Ikea), been looking online at what I want today for baby. We're putting his cot up and I'm sorting out his room on Sunday, DP is sorting out his computer room, its been in boxes since we moved I think he's getting withdrawal symptoms and I'm happy to do babies room alone if it means I can send him away while I was crap TV on a night.
I'm 34 weeks tomorrow am I right in thinking that's the time to start the raspberry leaf capsules? And starting on one a day building up to 6 a day eventually?

Clarella Wed 07-Nov-12 15:31:45

Wonderful news honey!!!!!'' grin

Survived my first sling meet; they were lovely and promised not to 'lick the new pregnant mommas!'

Now waiting for consultant appt steeling self - thinking going to be yet another new person to try to explain stuff to ......

I've never heard of being swabbed for strep b?! confused I feel so stupid. Should your MW mention it? Mine hasn't even mentioned flu or WC jab?!

Moan alert- lower back is really hurting <cry> <pathetic emotion>

ellliebelle Wed 07-Nov-12 16:53:21

( honey great news about dash bet your sooo pleased.
ispy glad your homebirth seems to be going to plan i really would like one and have been feeling quite down about it since finding out i have gd and then saw midwife today and babyvis also breech.sad im only 33 weeks so not too much to worry about i guess.

With gd i have managed to keep my levels pretty good last 3 days an di uavent felt hungry but saw midwife today and i had ketones in my urine not really sure what this means but guessing its not good. Obe good thing was that im measuring spot on so no signs of big baby at thr minute

ellie I always have ketones in my first morning sample but never if I do it later. They never mention it confused

Evening!

Congratulations Honey hope you're home having lovely cuddles and watching Dash in his new home.

Loved the sauna interjection nutella, do they wear costumes or is it a full nude mixed sauna?

Sorry everyone is having a bit of a bad time of it. I have been googling strep b too as I had some green discharge early on in pregnancy but not since then. How do they know you have strep b after the baby is born if they haven't checked you before COD?

I was a bit silly when I was 18 and decided I was never going to have a baby so may aswell get what one would call a 'tramp stamp' on my tummy. It has been stretched twice now so really looking forward to seeing how it looks after this baby...might have it lasered off I think.

ISpyPlumPie Wed 07-Nov-12 18:23:37

Ellie - sad that things are sounding difficult atm. Think at 33 weeks there is plenty of time for the baby to turn - did some reading up as LO was breech at 30 weeks. Seemed that 36 weeks was the point at which it might become an issue, and this was backed up by mw I spoke to (who also said quite a few babies still turn on their own after this too).

Don't know anything about the GD side of things but sounds like they're monitoring it closely. Will keep my fingers crossed that you are able to have the birth you want.

PurplePidjin Wed 07-Nov-12 18:29:38

My ink's on my hip more than my tummy so hasn't suffered too badly yet. I have some funky tiger stripes under my belly button though hmm <raaaaaaaaah>

pidj my sisters are an inch wide and four inches long. I. Shit. You. Not. Really do look like tiger stripes I really feel for her, still not faded after two years either

I had some of those last time pidj just waiting for some more to appear! Mine went down to silver and almost invisible so not too bothered about that.

FYI hope my tramp stamp comment wasn't offensive as I love tattoos (dh has a few lovely ones) but mine really is a tramp stamp blush

PurplePidjin Wed 07-Nov-12 18:45:22

I thought a tramp stamp was on the lower back, only visible when bending over in low cut jeans?

I'm surprisingly unphased by my stripes having asked dp if he'd noticed them and he said "oh, yeah, them". I'm trying to think of them of as badge of honour...

brooke89 Wed 07-Nov-12 18:56:07

Aww that's lovely honey hope your having lots of cuddles with dash at home.

WHY did I do a roast on a Wednesday? Mountain of dishes to get through sad

I googled it and you're right! Woo hoo I don't have a tramp stamp...still v dodgy though.

AlisonDB Wed 07-Nov-12 19:11:15

Yipppppeeeeeeeee!!!! Congratulations Honey, well done little Dash, that is amazing news! X

PurplePidjin Wed 07-Nov-12 19:17:37

Brooke, roasts are only worth it if you have a dishwasher!

AlisonDB Wed 07-Nov-12 19:20:55

Just had my 1st cup of Raspberry leaf tea, I like the taste so I really don't mind drinking it, and I bought super strength EPO capsules to start taking from 37 weeks!

Quite jealous of those who know they are being induced or having scheduled C sections!
I really don't want to go over my due date have had a slightly rotten preg, (nothing life threatening) but just not easy like DS1 was....
And we have been in a stupid referral system since week 21. Due to soft marker that showed up on the scan. Which is adding to my stress.

I am going to try to demand an induction on the basis of this referral but not sure what my chances are going to be.
i get switched to consultant care at wk 36, so I'll find out then!

EggsMichelle Wed 07-Nov-12 19:32:28

I have a tramp stamp confused but would by very funny if that stretched, it's sheet music so would just slow the song down!

I'm also jealous of the planned births, in too impatient and excited to meet him, I don't want to wait!

Nutella I thought it was my baby brain getting confused about showers and saunas, I was wondering if it was in the hospital!

There is a brilliant thread over on childbirth about the embaressing things that have happened in birth (lots of poo talk), as my biggest fear is runny poo all over the midwife, it has settled my anxiety a lot (and made me chuckle loads!)

MyDaydream Wed 07-Nov-12 20:31:37

I'm still stretch mark free although pleanty of time yet. I have them on my boobs and thighs from teenage growth spurts so expect them at some point.
I'm currently wedged in the back of my mums car with DPs new ikea desk. On leaving the warehouse the guy said they never go in the backs of cars and we were just about to return it when my mum did some rearranging and just got it in. DP has already been informed he owes us big time when we get in! Got some lovely bits for the baby too, although the curtains I wanted are sold out.

emilyeggs Wed 07-Nov-12 20:37:06

don't think my body is made for babies, feel like i don't have enough air in my lungs

I have a scan tomorrow to see if my placenta has moved up (it was only borderline low lying so not really worried) so I get to see mini eggs one last time grin DH has been really quiet work wise this last week and a bit (self employed) but the one morning I want him he's busy angry so I'm going on my own sad. Never mind, I'll get him back by finding out the sex grin only kidding.

No stripes hear yet

brooke89 Wed 07-Nov-12 20:45:57

Purple - what makes it worse is its broken lol

Jealous of people with dates too! Is anyone else due on the 13th MW said i wont be induced exactly 12 days after as its Christmas Day and staffing levels will be down so will have to wait till 27th if I am late. Is it bad for the baby if its left that late?

Fabulous news Honey. I'm so happy for you xxx grin

emilyeggs Wed 07-Nov-12 22:08:59

DH has just told me after this baby (my first) we are not having any more as he doesn't want anything distracting from his two from his ex. I wish now this pregnancy was made to feel more special as its going to be my only one. Feel sorry for mini eggs not having the same relationship that I've had with my brother and sister and seeing how DH's children are together sad

Hi Brooke, I'm due on the 13th and have been told the 12 day thing too. I've asked if they will induce early or after Xmas. I've been told it will depend on how busy they are and rotas etc. So sod us eh?!

Hi Emily, my baby's dad (who is no longer involved) already had two from his previous marriage. He made me feel like he'd been there, done it all before so didn't seem that interested. He also made the whole thing seem not at all special or important. It's my first too so I was over the moon with excitement and desperately wanted him to share my joy. Don't let him make you think your pregnancy or baby isn't a wonderful thing x

emilyeggs Wed 07-Nov-12 22:26:39

thanks dating he also said he feels bad it didn't work out with her for the sake of the kids, I get that but don't really need to hear it! Don't know how he thought it would make me feel

Secondsop Wed 07-Nov-12 22:29:48

brooke I'm due on the 13th but will be induced early because of gestational diabetes, so haven't needed to have the conversation about the Christmas period.

emily re your husband and future pregnancies: do you get any say in the matter?! You could just as easily make the argument that you want at least the same number that he had with his ex, given that yours is the live relationship that he is living in now after all, because his having 1 more child from the previous relationship is affecting the family unit that you are creating as you're not getting the chance to create the sibling relationships that you enjoyed and that his other children enjoyed.

emilyeggs Wed 07-Nov-12 22:41:45

His words were that he's not going to tip toe round the matter and put his foot down and say and he only want one more. He said he only had his dd because he didn't want ds to be an only child!

Emily & seconds - it just makes me think that your baby isn't as important as his first two. Like yours is a second class citizen? I'm sorry if I'm sounding a bit mean!

CODwidow Wed 07-Nov-12 23:23:47

strawberry when ds was born he wouldn't feed as he was so sleepy and then his hands and feet turned blue so he was taken to scbu and had bloods taken. The bloods came back showing strep b so he was given antibiotics for 4 days.

Secondsop Thu 08-Nov-12 00:24:56

emily right now he should be focussing on you and the baby and on this new chapter in your future together, and don't let him forget that! This is precisely NOT the time for him to start voicing his sadness and regret at his previous relationship failing. Perhaps you need to talk to him about putting those things aside at least for now, and supporting you and really focussing on this special time for you both together. It sounds a bit like he sees the baby as an addition to 2 children he already has (his role in all 3 children has after all been the same) whereas for you it is a completely new world of motherhood and the creation of your new family unit as well as the growing of a blended family; perhaps he just isn't seeing how different it is for you and needs a reminder.

emily your dp is bring a twat. Sorry if that's harsh! But to bring this subject up with any heavily pregnant woman is ridiculous to say the least!

I am on the other side of it. I have 2 dcs from my previous marriage (why does that make me sounds so old?! Lol I'm 25!!!) and I've told DH that this is his only baby. But that's not because my other 2 are any better/different. It's because I don't cope we'll with pregnancy and I can't stand the thought of another 9 months like this. But our dynamic is different as obv my dcs live with us 12/14 days so it'll just be that we have 3 children.

Was any of this discussed before the pregnancy? It seems strange that he's just decided to 'not tip toe around it' at this stage tbh.

Well as fior me, amazingly I'm awake, again! I went to Zumba today, my instructor is letting me come for free but I've had to slow it right down and sit out if I need to. It was quiet novel to leave without feeling like a massive sweat ball! Lol it was good to get up and do something though, I'm so uncomfy sat/laying down most the time! In the morning I'm off to a local university hospital to take part in some research to do with pregnancy and then babies development. When tadpole is 3 months they'll do a brain scan thingy. I don't really understand what it's for but it sounded quite cool lol. Also I might as well help out if I can. Must get some sleep though!

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 01:03:53

Thanks * seconds* in going to try and reminder some of the things you've said and talk to him. Good points.

I'm on the sofa now and can't sleep sad

Insomnia sucks doesn't it?

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 01:26:34

Yep

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 01:28:25

I also can't keep still because of restless leg even though in tired sad

Stupid question but what is restless legs? My backside is pulsating with pain due to SPD so I'm wide awake

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 01:39:40

It's where you get the urge to move and only moving relieves it. It comes back as soon as I stop moving. I heard someone call it restless leg syndrome but thought they had made it up till I googled it.

That sounds awful. Can you do anything for it?

2blessed Thu 08-Nov-12 02:42:56

I'm up too!
Great news about dash honey, you must be so relieved and excited.
Well tonight I did my first perineal massage, ive not laughed so much in ages. Found it really difficult to reach - on my back legs akimbo, one leg up on the bath. Dp walked in whilst I was doing it and held my legs up for me. I guess it will get better.
Went to see my gp today and got antibiotics for my lingering cough and steiroids for my eczema flare up.

2blessed Thu 08-Nov-12 02:47:11

ellie I'm also 33 weeks with a breech baby, mw not worried at this at this stage. I keep reading about this spinning baby's website so may well have a look.

Walnut8 Thu 08-Nov-12 04:13:25

COD that sounds awful! Even if I don't like the idea of antiBs during labour, at least I know about the group B strep! Thanks once again for the info too jojo.

My stretch marks with DD didnt turn up until I was 40 weeks. Then they came with a vengeance. Nothing like the 1 inch wide ones though strawb wow!!! Your poor sis. Still, they didnt ever fade completely (went silver but not enough for me to be comfortable in a bikini even when tummy was back to ok condition. Shrug). My DH, bless him, says they are battle scars. I know this baby is lying a different way to DD, because the stretch marks this time are all around my belly button - she's def lying all out in front (last time I had them across and around my hips).

BTW those talking about being induced at 40 + 12 days ... my DD was born at 40 + 15 days and was completely healthy, placenta only just starting to get a bit old and tired. They kept scanning me to make sure all okay, but I refused induction until then (ie when I was entirely fed up with it all).

Worried about wedding this weekend and about leaving DD with my inlaws over night (first time!!). Why did I let DH talk me into it????? And emily, I completely agree with everyone else, what shit timing from your partner. Having said that, my cousin's DH was married before with 3 kids and she had to talk him into having one with her and now they have two together (he has 5 in total), so you never know. Def not the right time to have it out though. Bloody hell!

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 04:40:13

Just had the earliest breakfast ever, got bored of waiting for morning. I'll be knackered for my scan (may fall asleep on couch as she's doing it)

Bellaboo123 Thu 08-Nov-12 04:44:11

emily that was crap timing from your DP...hope you're ok.

ellie I'm also breech and have been since about 29 weeks - I'm now 35w. Debating ECV - not sure if I want it as heard it can be quite unsuccessful and painful...

honey fab new on Dash can imagine its so special to have him home with you!

Grrrr wide awake...angry

Walnut8 Thu 08-Nov-12 06:17:40

ECV Bellaboo - is that where they try to turn the baby?

Bellaboo123 Thu 08-Nov-12 07:03:24

walnut yes get me sounding all technical with the lingo...!

Bella I think there are lots of old threads in childbirth about ECVs if you do an advanced search.

Dd has gone to MIL's today and I'm going to a friends to make chilli jam, going to go back to bed first though grin need to tidy up first though how can someone so small make such a mess?!

Sorry your dp is being such an arse emily

Ooo and hoping Dash's first night in his new home went well smile

utopian99 Thu 08-Nov-12 08:09:00

honey how lovely about Dash! Am getting quite impatient to meet the crumb now..

On a different note, how do you do perineal massage? Had a go but can't help thinking i was doing it wrong as no idea how what i was doing would make a difference!

Clarella Thu 08-Nov-12 08:29:25

Sorry to bob on -do you think that if they want to keep me in for 3 - 5 days for 'head stuff' post birth that I will be put on / can request a single room if available? Ironically I think I'd stand a better chance mentally all round if was being treated as a normal case now but given the thyroid/stress/slapped cheek/constant hospital appts induced anxiety I agree there could be more wobbles than 'normal ' but the social stigma pressure of being on a ward with other women for head stuff is a sure fire way to make me embarrassed and anxious. If everything goes well physically I don't want to be in that place longer than nec. On sobbing sofa now, trying to be quiet as poss as pils are helping paint
Bathroom and seeing psychiatrist later to find out if I can take beta blockers when bf but feel like I have to be totally composed - it's the system making me ill !

Clarella I don't really know the answers to your questions but I know you can request a single room where I am and it costs £40. The mw said if there were any high priority cases or women who needed rather than wanted the room I wouldn't be allowed it which is fine by me. I would say if you feel that it would have a negative affect on you then you would be in the need it category and I hope they will get you one x good luck later.

COD that sounds quite scary, did they know it was strep b straight away?

Emily I wonder whether he is starting to feel overwhelmed just before the baby comes? I know its not acceptable and he should be supporting you and not saying silly things but as he knows what is about to happen he might be worrying and it's coming out the wrong way?

My cervix is burning, I don't remember this last time!

PurplePidjin Thu 08-Nov-12 08:43:31

Clarella, I'll be taking the opportunity of a few days on the local MLU and afaik that's pretty standard round here - nothing to do with "head stuff" wink Can you rationalise it as Postnatal care?

Clarella there are private rooms at my hospital too £50. I got mine for free last time because dd wasn't with me. I don't think they would keep you in for longer because of that unless they were particularly worried about you. I suppose it's hard for you to know how you will feel until after though but I should think the daily home visits from mw would be enough for them to support you and arrange extra help if needed?

FriendofDorothy Thu 08-Nov-12 08:53:27

Clarella Why are they likely to keep you on the ward for 'head stuff'?

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 09:54:27

Just back from my scan to check placenta. That's ok but baby measuring rather large, already over 5lb (I'm only 32+6). I have to go back two hours after my lunch for a glucose blood test sad. Also the baby is still back to back which is why I have been very uncomfortable.

brooke89 Thu 08-Nov-12 09:59:23

Dating- at least it's not just my hospital being rubbish down here.fingers crossed we're early so we don't have to worry about that'

It'll be ok emily smile my last weight was 4lb13 and that was 31+6. Can you see on the paperwork whereabouts the abdominal measurement is in comparison with the head/legs/weight?

Stacks Thu 08-Nov-12 10:31:22

Morning everyone. I've been lurking so long you've all dropped off my threads list, so it's time to make a post!

Honey so glad Dash is home with you now. Hope you have a wonderful first day with him.

Clarella I'm sure there will be a room for you if they keep you in longer. Speak to your midwife to see what the options are maybe, or call your local unit to ask?

emily I've not read back far enough to have read your post - but I hope things get better soon.

Sorry for those who still can't sleep. It's not much comfort to be told it's "good practice" for the baby being here.. I feel very lucky to still be mostly sleeping through the night, though I'm waking up at least 10 times to turn over due to hip and back pain, I'm at least getting back to sleep quickly after.

I've only caught up on this page so far, quite busy with work as I've not got long to go now. Last day is next Friday, and there's no replacement for me yet, so I have to write everything down rather than train a new person. It's surprisingly time consuming on top of doing my work!

2blessed Thu 08-Nov-12 10:32:32

utopian Best to do after you've had a bath or shower. You need to be in a comfortable position to do the massage - lying on your back or perhaps one foot on the bath. You should use an oil, I think they recommend olive or sweet almond (don't quote me! I bought a 'special' expensive one at a baby show. I'm such a pushover!) and at first you gently massage the area between vagina and anus for a couple of minutes. Then you insert fingers or thumbs about 1/2 cm into your vagina and and gently rub kind of pulling towards your anus. This is from memory of the instructions I used last night. Anyone else give any clearer/more acurate instructions?
I found it quite awkward to do but hoping it will get easier.

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 10:39:19

spotty it says the HC is encroaching the 95th centile and AC is over 95th centile. Is that it?

I expect all hospitals do the plotting differently but to me, although he/she (?) is big the AC is not out of proportion with the HC which is something which can cause complications with diabetes if that makes sense? Gestational diabetes or not sounds like they're just on the big side

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 10:56:33

So you mean if they were very different that's more likely to be GD? Also will it matter what I eat for lung before blood test? Thanks spotty smile

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 11:02:02

Oops I meant lunch blush

If they were very different it's more likely to be a complication from GD but I don't know enough to say anymore or whether or not you have it. I think you should just eat what you would normally eat if you have got it it won't make much difference at this stage. Remember you're quite far gone, nearly at the end so if you have got it it won't be for long!

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 11:32:29

Do you think it's something I could have avoided? I did get a bit of a sweet tooth during pregnancy, never had one before and was never bothered with sweet things until pregnant (not that I've eaten tons) I haven't put on any weight other than my neat bump confused

Secondsop Thu 08-Nov-12 11:39:11

emily no, although there are risk factors for getting it such as diabetes in the family and raised BMI, GD comes about through the hormones produced by the placenta making us more insulin resistant as the pregnancy progresses so it's nothing you've done, it's just one of those things.

Walnut8 Thu 08-Nov-12 11:57:53

2blessed/utopian, the instructions I had involved a lot less "massage" and a lot more stretching from memory (re perineal massage) ... I got DH to do it. I should really look it up and start again, although currently treating thrush so not likely for the next week or so hmm

Clarella, if you were asked to stay longer for mental health reasons, I'd imagine you'd just be put in with other women in a post labour ward? Many women stay on for a variety of reasons, including those that have had a csection or whose babies need supervision. I'd say most hospitals wouldn't have the space to keep you there for more than a few days however unless there was a high risk to you or baby?

stacks no replacement yet??

Clarella Thu 08-Nov-12 12:35:05

Thanks for views, .mw thinks total nonsense and they'll want me out pdq and then she will .br visiting, perinatal counsellor has called this doc I'm about to see to tell him to call hospital to say no need. I think the consultant thanks I can't cope with pain and lack of control - I keep trying to tell her about my grumbling appendix my mum thought was wind (was an infected nearby gland but flared frequently when a teenager) martial arts training and working with very physically challenging children not to mention riding and being thrown any number of times cos I was a bit 'gung ho'. I'm not even on anti depressants ffs .

WeeJo08 Thu 08-Nov-12 13:51:29

Honey That's fab about Dash getting home! So happy for you smile Hope you're getting lots of at-home snuggles with him.

Emily Hope you're okay.

Stacks I finish next Friday too at 36+4...I think you're due the day before me? I'm due on the 10th.

TMI alert right do since coming home at 12.30 I have vomited twice and had awful diahrea (sp?) and my cervix has come forwards (I can now reach it, couldn't yest) is this things starting? I would be very happy if it was!

Queenofsiburbia Thu 08-Nov-12 14:41:44

stacey call hospital midwife about this.
I had similar a few weeks ago & 3am panic that it was indeed labour (stomach cramps where so strong & regular, I was able to time them!!)
Anyway they told me to stay away but keep in touch over phone.
They were right I had 48hr D&V bug (sweeping the nation apparently)so would not have been popular in a hospital!!

Was a shocker though, I couldn't eat or drink, not even water for 36 hrs, then just water.

Hope it's a bug & it goes very soon but do let them know just in case!

No stomach cramps although plenty of BH. And I've eaten since (a piece of dry bread) with no vomitting. Was very uncomfy so came for a bath but gotta get dcs in half hour so should prob get out! Lol

stacey do you have a ball to rock on? Mine has been helping me, along with baths. Not so relaxing once you've collected dcs though.

I had dioreah (spl!) last night followed by feeling v nauseous for several hours. Freaked me out as v similar before labour last time, and been emptying bowels lots which has not been the case for 8 months!! is your cervix noticbly moved did you say? Any mucus or slight bleeding ?

Yeah cervix is now within reach which it hasnt been for ages. No bleeding and only snot like mucus when I wipe. But not loads iykwim.

Well the school run was pure hell, I feel like death atm. Having a lay down now. God knows what's going on! Lol

Stacks Thu 08-Nov-12 15:53:52

WeeJo yup, due on the 9th. Have you also got suddenly exhausted? I'm regretting decision to work next week, but it's an extra week of pay.. just have to keep telling myself that.
Also, if my handover documents aren't up to scratch, what are they actually going to be able to do about it!? I'm off forever a year, and I'll just change my mobile number if they bother me! You can't get fired while on ML can you?

Stacey it could very well be things starting, but unless you're pre-37w I probably wouldn't bother calling the MW. Just see how the next few hours/days go. Though, my MW hasn't really been particularly friendly, so I'm not sure I'd ever consider calling her... I'll just phone the MLU direct when I think I'm in labour.

I'm only 34+4 but I won't be calling anyone until I know. There's no pains or anything ATM so I'll just put it down to normal pregnancy shitness.

WeeJo08 Thu 08-Nov-12 16:28:59

Stacks Yes! The thought of next week just makes me want to curl up in a ball (if I could!) I am taking the first week off as annual leave, do ML starts officially at 38 weeks to try & boost the finances!! My work also have a good (new) system where instead of accruing annual leave to use up at the end I get paid for it (and any bank hols) each month. I'm also totally "meh" about handover - I just want to say "Figure it out! I had to!!" Though that might bd hormones screaming talking!

EggsMichelle Thu 08-Nov-12 16:45:50

I'm 36wks today, and I'm fed up! Went out for lunch with DMIL and DSIL who I love to bits, but trying to keep up with them whilst they walk normally and I waddle is so uncomfortable. I'm now crashed out on my DMs sofa recovering and enjoying the revolting reflux!

MyDaydream Thu 08-Nov-12 16:50:36

I'm exhausted without going out to work, all I've achieved from my day is doing a load of washing! Slept really badly last night due to an ill advised pint of juice right before bed.
Can I ask a possibly stupid question to you ladies who've done this before? Do they cut the cord before or after you deliver the placenta? And can I cut it myself if DP doesn't want to?

emily it's absolutely nothing you have or haven't done, let us know how you get on smile

Stacey Hope you're feeling better? How are your sugar levels? Being ill can really effect them...

I made Nigella's Chilli Jam today as part of my 'homemade Christmas' it was really easy and looks yummy!

Eggs hope you don't ache too much tomorrow! I'm feeling surprisingly well today, can breath and walk etc, I'm sure it won't last more than a day though.... maybe have a day of rest tomorrow?

I got my appointment through too see the anaesthetist I don't see why he can't just see me when I'm at the antenatal clinic because now I have to see him on the monday, go in tuesday for special diabetic retinopathy screening and the wednesday for dd t get her casts fitted, bearing in mind it's 30-40 minutes drive and £1.60 an hour to park it's going to cost me a fortune angry

Also has anyone else been getting weirdly obsessed with smells? with dd I loved the smell of shower gels/shampoo etc but this time I can't get enough of bleach/vinegar/general cleaning stuff blush

EggsMichelle Thu 08-Nov-12 16:56:59

And YouTube have a good massage video (fake vagina!)

MyDaydream google delayed cord clamping. Providing all is well either of you can request to cut the cord smile

EggsMichelle Thu 08-Nov-12 17:04:49

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=DK2P8Ziqc6Y&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDK2P8Ziqc6Y&gl=GB

EggsMichelle Thu 08-Nov-12 17:06:29

Hmm my link won't work, that's annoying!

spotty I love the smell of washing, I love filling my house with freshly washed stuff everywhere smile

stacey when I saw the doc on DAU the other day I told him about my mucus, back pains/period pains and about loose bowels he didn't seem fussed at all (think I was 34+5 then?!) he said to phone up if I was getting contractions or waters but only been BHs. Knowing my luck I've still got yonks left!

Have you done your birth plan yet mydaydream ? Are you planning on having the injection? Some people like to put off cutting the cord until it has stopped pulsing it means baby is still getting benefits. I wasn't bothered I think mine was cut right away and I had the injection just after. (You're too obsessed with your new bundle /exhausted in my opinion to know much else!)

Eggs you have to put [[ then your link ]] no spaces!

Congrats honey glad everything's going well.

Insomnia is killing me off at the minute, mainly lurking no energy to post!

MyDaydream Thu 08-Nov-12 17:19:14

Spotty thanks, I've been reading up on delayed clamping and am going down that route.
Cookies I'm making birth plan notes now, my next antenatal appointment is at the birth centre but want to have as much down before I go so it can be discussed, rather than writing it from scratch. I think I want the injection as you say just to get it over with.
I'm trying to get DP involved with labour but he just won't talk about it, he's coming to my next appointment but whenever I mention things to get him involved (cutting cord, early skin to skin) he just says he doesn't see the point because he's already got a bond with the baby because he made him. I'm trying not to force it, and know he might come round when baby is here but I don't want him to feel like a spare wheel with no involvement other than water/lip balm provider.

EggsMichelle Thu 08-Nov-12 17:25:43

perineal massage

Thanks Fandango
I want to donate the placenta to research, but don't think nottingham do it sad I know Leicester do.

ellliebelle Thu 08-Nov-12 17:30:58

Well ive been to diabetic clinic today 3 hours in a hospital with an under the weather 3 year old is not fun sad since getting home i think i may have d&v bug sad no vommiting yet but bad stomach pains and feeling quite sicknif i drink/eat sad

Diabetic doctor was great happy with my levels happy with my diet and wants to see me in 3 weeks. Obs consultant was horrible sad out lined an 'action plan' which looks like a standard one they give to gd patients. Didnt explain why anything on the plan was there and didnt want to discuss my birth options other than what was on the 'plan' so now i feel stressed out and unwell sad dh wont be home till gone 8 anf the poor dd's are stuck infront of the tv sad

spotty no idea as today is a breakfast/dinner testing day hmm and wasn't sick till lunchtime. I'm in bed feeling frankly awful. Kids are creating havoc downstairs but I really don't care right now tbh! I want another bath but our majorly shit boiler that the LL keeps 'fixing' but it still bangs like its going to blow up and turns itself off randomly boiler turned off earlier so no hot water for at least an hour! Urgh!

From the sounds of it perineal massage is something the dp / dh would like to do?!

I think I've got myself into a bad sleep pattern now. Going to sleep between 2 and 3am, waking around 9 but getting up at 12ish, then get up, have a shower, take a nap as too tired to do anything then get up again for dinner at 7ish. I figure a bad sleeping pattern doesn't matter as baby will just shake it all up when he comes.

argh my back is killing me now, what with the stinging cervix, shooting pains when I'm walking and back pain I really hope labour isn't too far away...I could do with it pretty soon actually! Ellie and Stacey hope you're ok, don't worry about dd's in front of tv, needs must and you have to look after yourself!

ellliebelle Thu 08-Nov-12 19:05:31

self indulgent moan alert sad im laidbon the sofa feeling sorry for myself i have read to the dd's and now they have taken themselves off to bed they are only 3 and 5 i feel so guilty for not going to tuck them in but feel so sick i cant get up sad

emilyeggs Thu 08-Nov-12 19:12:47

Sound like lots of us are having shit days sad hope tomorrow is better for all of us.

I have to call ante natal clinic in four days for the results. I've since found out from my sister that mum had all of us over 8lb, my sister's were 8lb to 9lb 7 so maybe it's not GD, just big baby. Good job I only bought 10 basic sleep suits in newborn size!

strawberry it does sound like things are on their way, keep us updated smile exciting.
Yesterday I was the closest I've been to thinking things are on the move but today bugger all by way of signs.
ellie do not worry! The tv has been my best friend since being prg - do feel like a useless mum sometimes but we have to do what we can to survive! There has been many times I've just zonked on the sofa-I would be right now but It's too uncomfortable these days

FriendofDorothy Thu 08-Nov-12 20:12:03

I am bloody knackered today and have had a really sore throat. I told my boss that I don't want to come to work tomorrow. I will either take the day off as time owing or sick leave depending on how I feel.

I have just been to help my Mum put my niece and nephew to bed. They both had the most amazing meltdowns!