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November 2012 - but that starts on Thursday

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StuntNun Fri 26-Oct-12 17:23:18

Marking my place!

kirrinIsland Fri 26-Oct-12 18:10:42

Marking place

daisychain76 Fri 26-Oct-12 18:22:27

Marking place to give me something to read at the 4am feed smile

Catbag Fri 26-Oct-12 19:27:00

Marking my place too, so I can keep up with all you ladies about to pop!

DebussyHead Fri 26-Oct-12 20:03:43

Marking placegrin

ComradeJing Fri 26-Oct-12 22:00:15

Marking my place smile

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Fri 26-Oct-12 23:12:41

Marking place. Hope my baby comes on this thread! As do loads of us I'm sure!

StuntNun Sat 27-Oct-12 01:01:06

I wonder who will have the first actually in November baby? Who is due on the 1st and still to go?

TiAAAAARGHo Sat 27-Oct-12 06:03:05

Congrats blonder.

Baby Thea decided to join the world at about 2am this morning (I was too out of it to notice the exact time). She's gorgeous, and arrived with only gas and air - in part because by the time I was pleading for an epidural she was almost here anyway! Seriously, I couldn't have coped with those contractions for several more hours, but by then there was only half an hour to go. From start to finish the whole thing was just 11 hours, only 6 ish of which were proper contractions. She was clearly in a hurry to arrive.

She is now snuggled up asleep on my chest and is (naturally) the most gorgeous baby in the world ever. I may of course be biased.

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 06:08:01

tiaargho many congrats. It sounds lovely! I will share this news on the old thread as well - as it still has a few posts left on it smile

Snuggle your beautiful baby and pat yourself on the back, job well done!

Lovely name too smile

TiAAAAARGHo Sat 27-Oct-12 06:14:23

Thanks pasties.

blonderthanred Sat 27-Oct-12 06:17:50

Thanks Tiaaaargho, congratulations to you too. Sounds like a beautiful birth and Thea is a lovely name (Theaaaaargh?!)

capedcrusader25 Sat 27-Oct-12 06:33:00

Congrats blonder and thea grin
I wasn't due until the 15th Nov Stunt - I thought I'd be around until late November hmm
Hope all is well with VQ
I want snow, jealous of those who have it envy

wellieboots Sat 27-Oct-12 06:36:03

Marking place - I'm officially due on Wed, but always suspected this would be a Nov baby - I wanted my baby on the last thread but we talk too much!!

Congrats tiarrrrgghhHO, wonderful news!

capedcrusader25 Sat 27-Oct-12 06:49:00

thea?! I meant tia obviously, I do love the name though smile

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 07:01:25

Moar babies! Congrats tiaaa. Beautiful name.

kissyfur Sat 27-Oct-12 07:15:29

Congrats tiaaaaargo! Beautiful name, can't wait to see pics xx

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 27-Oct-12 07:18:22

Congrats Tia I love that name.

Whoop whoop hosrey keep us updated, sounded like a bit of a cynic you got on the other end of the phone at leat you've touched base with Lanour Ward and are on their radar.

Zzzzz v late night for me last night, nealy midnight. Twice in one week, I think a bit more of a snooze is called for now DH has dealt with DS.

kirrinIsland Sat 27-Oct-12 07:33:19

Congratulations tiaargho lovely name smile

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 27-Oct-12 07:39:03

It's snowing! confused

StuntNun Sat 27-Oct-12 07:53:53

Congratulations Tiago that was a quick(ish) labour from start to finish then.

My DH got back from Scotland at 3 a.m. whereupon I promptly started having contractions for over an hour. I was worried everything was kicking off when we were both sooo tired. But after five contractions everything stopped so I guess it was just a practice run.

Congrats tiaaargho!!

It must be nearly half of us who've had babies now? Please hold out til nov now ladies!

georgee Sat 27-Oct-12 08:44:04

Congratulations tiaaargho! Beautiful name, that one is on our list too! How lovely to have your little one here with you. I'm a bit jealous. It'll be weeks yet for me! I wonder how many more babies we'll have on this thread?

Lane81 Sat 27-Oct-12 10:08:16

Marking place, me too izzy but I think it could still be weeks away!

When are you due lane?

Congrats to blonder and tia smile xx

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 10:49:05

We're still going on the old thread smile

pikz Sat 27-Oct-12 10:55:06

Congratulations tia fantastic news.

I am sure I will still be here for a long while yet sad

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 10:56:21

ok, we're all done on the old thread now smile

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 10:57:50

tits I agree with your dh, your mh should be a priority at the moment. Every midwife is keen to monitor stuff for possible pnd, but why are they ignoring your mh?! It doesnt make sense!

MissMummy1 Sat 27-Oct-12 10:58:35

Congrats tia - we have a family friend called Thea and she is the loveliest woman you could ever meet. Beautiful beautiful name!

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 11:02:28

tits I am beyond furious for you. I just do not get this at all. What do they want you to do? What hospital are you in?

Sorry if this makes no sense - carry over from old thread.

Hello new thread

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 11:05:59

pasties this is my feeling. In the UK abortion is allowed until the very last possible point where the woman's mental health is at significant risk. That's quite correct in my opinion so why in bloody hell is this hospital acting like tits is nothing but a vessel? How far does she need to go before common sense steps in.

Does anyone have any practical experience in dealing with the NHS like this? My fury is not helping.

Peaky1 Sat 27-Oct-12 11:06:27

I'm due on Wednesday! Please oh please can I be next? grin

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 11:11:11

Wouldn't it be great if we could all just take it in turns peaky?

We could have a wall planner type thing and all just politely and calmly book ourselves in.

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 27-Oct-12 11:13:57

tits it might be worth a post on here somewhere in the pregnancy or. Hold birth category abut how to look into the private stuff as there are always threads about comparing private hospitals etc and plenty of people seem to know all about it.

Am having a small, ok probably minute,insight Into your discomfort as think I have developed head engaged end of the pregnancy spd, which happened with DS as well and I am really uncomfortable in any position.

Good on your bag mmgrin

Much love

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 27-Oct-12 11:15:08

*childbirth, not hold birth

Where is detective these days?

And I hope all has gone ok for vq

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 11:23:42

Good point about detective. It has gone a bit quiet hasn't it? Wasn't detective having some twinges? She did have the wedding yesterday - maybe it was super-awesome.

MissMummy1 Sat 27-Oct-12 11:23:48

A wall planner with scheduled times for us all to give birth appeals to my inner control freak grin

MissMummy1 Sat 27-Oct-12 11:28:37

My house is (almost) looking presentable again. God, do anyone else's men just leave things at their backside?! He 'tidied' last night. On closer inspection everything has just been shoved under the coffee table/ in cupboards. And I don't even want to think what he has for his lunch today, but judging by the mess of the kitchen, it's a creation Heston would be proud of! Incredibly peeved that I have to constantly sit down and small jobs that would normally take 5 mins are taking forever!

SwissArmyWife Sat 27-Oct-12 11:49:58

Marking place, goodness me I leave this thread for one night and everyone starts popping! Good luck horsey and congratulations to tia smile

MM Yes my DP "tidies" aswell hmm Don't think he realises that for him to pick up clothes and towels off the floor etc is nothing but for me to do it takes ten times longer!

tits I cannot believe they are sending you home, how many weeks are you now?

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 11:53:37

mm you could colour coordinate it as well.

Natanotherone Sat 27-Oct-12 11:57:29

Marking place smile

Congrats on the new arrivals! I'm due Thursday and have my fingers crossed that something starts to happen soon.


MissMummy1 Sat 27-Oct-12 12:07:20

Pass you're giving me ideas - my laminated cupboard 'maps' have already made dh consider having me assessed!

MissMummy1 Sat 27-Oct-12 12:15:15

I moved the tv myself. It wasnt heavy at all and I'm feeling mighty chuffed with myself that I've managed to set up the new one AND the old one in our bedroom! ignores fact we no longer seem to have sky... grin

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 12:18:28

Detective was in bed. Doing nothing but sleep. Til 40 mins ago.... grin

Attempting to catch up confused...........!!!

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 12:25:22

passme yes yes yes, to what you say regaurding poor tits and the pain she is in and mh etc. i would be in absolute pieces if I was her. I have been in absolute pieces over small things all bloody pregnancy! My midwives have a little questionairre thingy that we have to fill in twice to see if we are coping, ie likey to have pnd. surely they all see good reasonable ways to prevent it, or help lessen it, or something, and leaving someone in agony is not on at all. sorry, rant over. just so upset for all the pgp/spd suffering going on.

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 12:25:46

shite, cant spell for toffee. sorry.

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 12:30:49

Catch up done, i'll just echo what everyone else has said with regards to the congratulations and commiserations for the shit times/DH's etc... god we can chat!!! hmm blush

Had a fantastic sleep - seems I'm not the only one grin feeling great today!

Wedding was ok, well, it was lovely, but I'm not really a wedding type of person. I don't think I'll ever get married. Don't get me wrong, the idea of a fairytale dress really appeals to me. But I'd hate to be the centre of attention, having to spend any all that money to bed stood around all day having to accept compliments don't accept compliments, ever! and make small talk.

God I sound like a freak grin

I do feel slightly sad that I won't have the 'experience' but I could never justify it to myself! The best I'll do is to go abroad and get married. But even that is pushing it!

Sorry - no glam pictures. Despite major hints, not one arsing bastard took a picture of me. Even DP. The Twat! Screw them all!

I ended up with chicken for the meal - for those who remembered me moaning about the fish haha! Food was surprisingly lovely, I'm not one for posh food, but this was really good! Even if the evening food was a hog roast, and when I asked DP to see if there was anything for veggies, he came back saying no. But when I went, I got some veggie stuff hmm. I only asked him to go because I really really didn't want to go in a room where a hog roast was being served... blerghhhhh.

(I'm 39 weeks now - Operation baby eviction commences TODAY! I am now joining the GET THIS DAMN BABY OUT club! It has obliged and stayed put for as long as I wanted needed it too! Very good baby! Maybe it will be even better and arrive tonight.

I got a lot of surprised looks yesterday when I said how long I had left, mmy own Dad was like, where the heck are you hiding it all! None of them saw me in the 'showing' stage of pregnancy last time, my Dad has never seen me pregnant. So I think they were all shocked I wasn't the size of a whale. Even if I do feel like it! I did get a bit bigger by the end of the evening though... all that food grin

Hope everyone is planning lovely weekends not having babies before me you buggers!

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 12:31:05

mm1 one tv each in the bedroom?! And naughty you for moving heavy tv. tut tut.

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 12:31:29

i missed off the grin

I'm at home now, I got evicted as someone was waiting in the corridor for the bed.
They've all said how barbaric it is to leave me in this pain with no option for pain relief but apparently they need to make a decision somewhere along the line and I happen to be the one that is losing out.
PALS aren't open until Monday so they'll be getting a phone call first thing.

At the moment I'm struggling like mad to try and sort help at home for next week with the children.
I'm on the sofa downstairs and I currently have no clue what I'm going to do in regards to using the toilet.
The consultant was my usual consultant but she was unusually unsympathetic and harsh, after the midwife saw me she went off and said the the consultant that this really wasn't on an they "compromised" by booking the first planned induction appointment they have which is in 2 weeks time (I they have a space on the day) with a sweep at the end of next week at home if it will make me feel better.

DP is livid, I'm at the end of my tether well and truly.

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 12:36:51

detective take heart that they were all complinenting you on your bump! Being told you are huge, even when you are huge, is totally rubbish!!

MissMummy1 Sat 27-Oct-12 12:37:27

No pasties - I set the old one up in the bedroom and the new one up downstairs! It really wasn't heavy at all, just bulky and awkward. No doubt I'll get a lecture from him when he gets home about it though. It was bothering me it hadn't been done. If he'd moved it when I asked 2 weeks ago it wouldnt be a problem!

I also managed to set a spare freeview box up to work with my office monitor so we have tv in there now too. This is quite an achievement for a technophob like me!!

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 12:40:24

Excuse the crap typing! blush

Oh, I had my midwife appt yesterday, still measuring huge fine - 38cm yesterday. I'm sure there is no more room to go upwards, so it must be going outwards now! Head was engaged, but I'm sure it is bobbing in and out tbh. Was LOA yesterday, but again, like Stunt it rotates frequently. It seemed to prefer ROA but in the last few days it has been more LOA than ROA. So I'm taking that as a good sign. grin

I was the only one in for an appt yesterday, so we spent 30 minutes gabbing about the state of midwifery! Seems I've found my counterpart! Except she is 30 years older than me. She said she is on call on Thursday, so I'll be trying hard to get this baby out for thursday, if tomorrow fails grin

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 12:42:17

Tits you know the advice I gave you - well, take the same advice, but go to another hospital. Yes, you aren't booked there, but the NHS has a duty for emergency care.

I wouldn't ring, just pick one and go. And explain the situation.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Sat 27-Oct-12 12:42:22

OMG tits I can't believe they are just chucking you out! At least when I was assessed on tues she made it clear that I had a hope of induction next week and that it was just a little too early for me as I wasn't yet 37weeks (one bloody day off!)

I agree that you should try starting a thread asking about private healthcare as someone must know something!

I'm doing ok just now. DD stayed at Granny's last night as DH is working this morning. I had a lie in, interrupted a million times for the loo, and stayed in bed til 12pm! Now contemplating sorting things through but will need DH and possibly to get DD minded. The nursery is still chock full of DDs clothes which need shifted to her new room in order for us to sort babies clothes etc out. Bit of a massive task in all honesty as the nursery has become a dumping ground. I think I will ask MIL if she can have DD for a few hours....wish me luck! It really needs done this weekend especially if I get my way and get induced this week sometime.

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 12:43:15

Oh mm1 i have a heavy bag of dirt/compost on my balcony that needs moving and i asked dh last weekend, now it's taunting me!! must get him to shift it tomorrow, its in the way all the time (now i've noticed it).

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Sat 27-Oct-12 12:46:39

tits when are you due? Is two weeks even before your due date? It all seems so so cruel! I know the pain you are in and I am only coping at home due to downstairs loo and a TON of help from my MIL and mum etc in that I only have about an hour with DD where I am actually alone. I couldn't manage otherwise however they did offer to admit me at least.

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 12:53:57

I'm another one with a DP that gets asked to do a job - and then doesn't do it.

Drives me mad because I ask him, and he says in a minute. Then forgets. So I ask again. In a minute. Then forgets. And we have to go around in this circle until I explode.

The dining room light bulb went 3 nights ago when DS was eating. Asked him to change it there and then - the bulbs are sitting in the cupboard - it still hasn't been changed. And it took him 2 months to change the outdoor light bulb - which requires ladders for me, but not for him hmm

It really does take me losing my rag to get stuff done. Rage!

I asked to be admitted mainly for the pain relief but again they are stating no beds anywhere in the hospital.
7th is 2 days before my due date, although if I get no joy today or tomorrow I will be calling every bloody hour if I have too to find out how "busy" the labour ward is as I live about 2 minutes on the same rd as the hospital, I'm not sure what the problem is with them calling me any time day or night and saying they are quieter so I can come in, how do they know there will be emergencies until the 7th? Even then what will they do if they are still booked up? It's bloody politics and guidelines that are causing this madness.

Detective - the only other hospital is in the same trust as us and have already said they're not willing to take me because the local has filtered off all the labouring women to them already but I shall certainly give it a go.

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 12:54:34

I never thought I'd say this, but I can't wait til I have to do everything myself again. Because I know it will get done, and done properly!!!!

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 12:55:59

How far away is the next hospital? www.birthchoicesuk.com

georgee Sat 27-Oct-12 12:57:04

Oh tits that's incredibly rubbish not to be able to help you as you need. Poor you, that's really tough.

I just looked on the stats board and tits is due 17/11, to answer everyone's question! (I should think you've got better stuff to think about!), which makes you, what, 37 weeks today?

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Sat 27-Oct-12 12:58:21

If you stay so close I cannot see why they can't just call when they are a bit quieter. Although I guess part of the problem is induction isn't an exact science as it can take hours into days. Mine was started last time in a sun and then DD wasn't born til the Tues. it's just ridiculous to leave you like this! If you needed an emergency delivery they would need to find space!

georgee Sat 27-Oct-12 12:59:19

Sorry, that meant that tits was probably too distracted at the mo to answer questions, although I had that question myself about her EDD! Came out wrong, that, sorry!

ShellyBobbs Sat 27-Oct-12 13:00:10

Congratulations to all the new mums smile

Horsey sounds like you're in labour and have gone to hospital, lucky you.

Tits I'm absolutely disgusted at the treatment you have received! What a shame it's weekend because I would have just gone straight to the very top complaining today if things were open, it's a disgrace and I would get an email sent round to all papers today to see if they'll take your story up, they love this kind of thing and especially with Cameron 'shaking up the NHS', it may get someone kicked right up the arse!

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 13:00:25

I understand from a logistics point of view Tits as I've been the one working when the wards have been full. You have to prioritise cases in this situation - it is the shit side to the NHS. Doesn't make it right, but the only way to get anywhere is to go higher. On a ward staff basis - they can't change anything.

But if you are prepared to go elsewhere, that is always an option.

The induction process can be a long one, so that is why it has to be managed carefully in terms of timings.

It is difficult when it gets busy - and one minute it can seem calm, then all hell breaks loose.

Why don't you ring the hospital switchboard, and ask for the Supervisor of Midwives on call, and then explain the situation to her, and that you are not happy with your care. There is an SOM on call 24/7.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Sat 27-Oct-12 13:03:37

I never thought of checking that thread georgee blush

ShellyBobbs Sat 27-Oct-12 13:06:21

Tits Tell them about the treatment you have received from start to finish and they wanted you to have homecare, a commode and a f'ing wheelchair!

WaitingForMe Sat 27-Oct-12 13:15:03

Congratulations blonder and TiAAAAARGHo.

One of my clients is a firm of personal injury solicitors and they regularly do cases where individuals have paid privately where the NHS was financially responsible. As far as I understand this is determined by medical need. If you decide to go privately Tits send me a PM and I'll find out what you'd need to do to build a case to get reimbursed.

I shall see who I can call.

I will just point out though that I totally understand ad respect that they are busy, they over worked and don't have the space, but as I pointed out they have have a duty of care to attend to and I'm pretty sure leaving a person in chronic pain, totally immobile with no analgesia is not right, I'm not a wimp by far, I birthed my last baby with no spin relief and smiled and chatted my way through it ffs, I'm not I've exaggerating or making a big deal because I want the induction for any other reason. I have no pun intended bent over backwards to allow them the flexibility of treating me at the same time as treating urgent cases, offering to go to a different hospital or even a general medical ward just so I can at least have the pain relief!
I asked for a sweep today to see if it would do anything before going home but no incase I went into labour and then they'd have to sort out a bed/space.
I have been tolerant and polite (although firm) I have laid it on the line and outlined everything that this is causing including mh issues and the effect it's having on my home life.
At no point have I been a diva and demanded uneccasary care or treatment. I have had 2 quick, straight forward births before, 1 which was induced. I am not unaware of the procedure or risks but a person can only cope with so much pain at any one time and I'm sorry but I reached my limit a long time ago.

Sigh. Rant over. I going to close my eyes for a little while, I've had no sleep, no food and I need to wait for DP to get back from the shop because they also failed to give me my medication this morning. angry

Thanks for being angry on my behalf and giving me lots of advice. I'll update as and when I can, I'm really tired and weary now though.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Sat 27-Oct-12 13:27:40

Oh tits I wish we could help. I know the pain you are in. I hope you can manage to rest a little and maybe get an hour or two of sleep.

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 13:28:16

SOM Tits

Start there.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sat 27-Oct-12 13:30:17

Oh tits am so sorry you are dealing with this. Do wonder whether you need to escalate the issue up the food chain - worth following detective's advice and asking to speak to the Supervisor of Midwives?

A being a bad mummy today. It's cold but sunny here and my last day where it's just me looking after DD. Normally I would take her to the park / feed the ducks / do something but I am too achy and waddle-y and also can't be arsed to leave the house. We're watching movies and endless Peppa Pig. She is also helping me with chores. Hopefully the odd day where I do nothing to really entertain her is ok!

Less than a week to go for me.

DonnaDoon Sat 27-Oct-12 13:32:48

Tits (*Hugs*) Gosh you sound desperate and we are angry on your behalf ...it reminds me of an old lady that I used to visit in a care home ..she phoned the police (seriously) because she was cold and they were too busy to fetch her some extra bedding or a plug in heater...they had repeatedly ignored her requests for these items and when the boys in blue arrived the situation was rectified immediatly...(disclaimer I no way advocate wasting police time) but Tits story reminded me how truly desperate that little old lady was.

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 13:55:25

DS made me my lunch. In the oven. I will make a domesticated man of him one day!

georgee Sat 27-Oct-12 13:59:08

... but MadameGazelleismymum you'll be wanting to watch Peppa, just to catch up with what your mum is doing! (Probably the Bing Bong song - we overdose on Peppa here too!).

Seriously, the odd quiet day doesn't matter at all, particularly as you're due soon! I keep having them and I'm weeks and weeks away ... blush

Tits Are there no other hospitals other than the two in the same trust? You can go to any hospital you want, I could go to Leeds or Manchester or Barnsley if I really wanted.

Congratulations Tiaaaaa!

After my good nights sleep I couldn't get back to sleep when DH went to work at 6:30 so I got up, had breakfast etc then thought fuck that for a Saturday morning so went back to bed to watch tv. Ended up just neon woken up by DH coming home at 1:30 grin
Am starving and craving a subway. Going to shower and make DH take me out. Reflux is still relentless though. Has some back ache and period pains earlier, all seems to be moving in the right direction. Anytime after Friday and im happy

GTbaby Sat 27-Oct-12 14:28:11

Marking spot. Lets see if I can keep up bear

I have had no joy with trying to get hold of the supervisor of midwives, I've been told they will call me back when they can hmm

Portsmouth (St Mary's) is fairly close by as is Princess Anne in Southampton.
How does it work though? If I called the 24hr number at the Portsmouth unit and explained how badly we have been let down by the local and the extent of the issue, are they likely to help or just advise on an apt with them next week if I wanted to move care?

I am also now genuinely concerned about what happens if I go into labour anytime before the induction date if I get no joy elsewhere, if they're full will I be turned away? Surely they must have a contingency plan when they reach capacity?! They have spaces for 9 labouring women in both local units, so if 18 women are in what on earth do they do?

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 15:01:30

Tits My best suggestion would be just to go there, and state you need to be seen. We would have out of area women at triage all the time - people go visit relatives etc, and still need to be seen.

You don't need to be booked there, but obviously it is better, but if you aren't getting any joy from where you are booked, then you can be seen as an emergency elsewhere.

If you were in labour and they had to close, they would direct you to the nearest open unit. There are systems in place for this.

Me too I'm a bit lost!

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 15:05:23

Maybe someone with too much time on their hands should start a daily round up of posts grin

MissMummy1 Sat 27-Oct-12 15:08:05

I've got the heating on full and just had to light the fire. shock It is FREEZING!

kirrinIsland Sat 27-Oct-12 15:10:36

tits this all sounds unbelievable - I can't believe they can send you home when you are so unable to cope sad Time to follow detective's advice I think, at least that is something you can do today rather than waiting for pals on Monday.

madamgazelle we are having a similar day here, except with postman pat. I feel guilty but not enough to stop doing it

Wonder how VQ and horsey are getting on?

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 15:12:25

It is weird. I know it is cold. My feet feel cold.

But I'm still warm! Sat here in pj bottoms and vest top!

Weirdo! DS keeps asking me am I not cold. He is sat here in full pjs, dressing gown, bed socks etc!

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 15:14:11

See it is easy to give advice, because I know what I would do. But for someone to feel confident enough to follow it takes a lot. If I wasn't me, I'd be unsure what the hell to do in Tits situation.

georgee Sat 27-Oct-12 15:16:43

Thanks for the 'It's cold' tip-off everyone! We're not that far from you MM. I don't feel it but I'm about to have a non-pregnant friend come and visit. She'll freeze! I'll put the heating on!

Much better to be preggers in the cold than the hot though I think. I remember being in late pregnancy in summer 2010, it was v v v uncomfortable and itchy and my feet looked like little balloons. Nothing like that this time.

TheDetective Sat 27-Oct-12 15:42:41

Gutted. Twinges that turn in to needing a poo are not my idea of a joke baby...!

MissMummy1 Sat 27-Oct-12 15:48:05

SIL was due here at 2, PIL at 3. No sign of either and SIL just texted saying they're leaving Aberdeen 'soon' (3 hours away on a good run). Unimpressed doesn't cover it! Well seeing they're his relatives, not mine!!

ShellyBobbs Sat 27-Oct-12 16:28:38

Yeah but MM it's less time them mithering you the later they are.

I haven't let dh put the heating on yet grin we've just been to his mums house and it was like a furnace I couldn't breathe and was sitting there sweating.
My parents house on the other hand is a 3 bed semi Victorian draughty house where the only room that's warm is the living room when the wood burner is on.
So we've been brought up in completely different climates and it really shows on days like this!

georgee I was heavily preg in July 2010 and god was I hot. I used to sit at home in just my pants!

ValiumQueen Sat 27-Oct-12 16:47:34

Sorry, posting before catching up...

Well, I have a baby who fits in newborn size clothes! Jacob Ian John was born at 3.38pm on thursday 25th October via C section. He is perfect! Very long, and skinny! Beautiful. Much better looking than the girls were for sure grin. I came home this afternoon, and am sore but happy. He is a natural at feeding, and has kept me awake cluster feeding overnight to increase supply. He has needed a change of clothes on several occasions due to peeing everywhere. Mummy needs to get used to boy babies. I will post when I can, but with three kids now, my life is gonna be hectic! I look forward to reading what you have been up to.

ValiumQueen Sat 27-Oct-12 16:47:58

Oops. Weight was 9lb 1/2oz.

MissMummy1 Sat 27-Oct-12 16:51:06

Congrats vq - lovely name, and a 9lber in newborn clothes?! Fab! Take care lovely xxxx

kirrinIsland Sat 27-Oct-12 16:52:20

Congratulations VQ that's a good weight! Glad to hear you're doing ok. Hope you manage to fit some sleep in somewhere!

Lane81 Sat 27-Oct-12 17:09:23

Congratulations vq enjoy the first few weeks of getting to know him better. Fab name!

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 17:12:02

Awesome VQ that is a brilliant weight. I'll bet you are all aglow

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 17:12:44

And Jacob is a lovely name.

daisychain76 Sat 27-Oct-12 17:13:20

Congrats blonder, Tia and Vq.Love reading all these birth announcements. Hope you get some better care soon tits.

ShellyBobbs Sat 27-Oct-12 17:32:17

Wow, VQ fantastic weight! Not a Grayson then? Lovely name, well done you grin Hope you are feeling OK.

blonderthanred Sat 27-Oct-12 17:45:41

Amazing news, congratulations VQ! Almost exactly a day before mine. Hope you are having a wonderful time getting to know him. I was very proud of myself for telling the Bounty woman we would be using cloth nappies. She looked quite put out!

Congratulations VQ He sounds lovely.

A productive day here. Picked up my travel cot I won on eBay - £10.50 and it looks like new. Bought another changing bag as DP wanted one that's not too girly that he can carry around. All stocked up on maternity towels and breast pads as well. Come on baby, we're ready for you now! smile

StuntNun Sat 27-Oct-12 18:36:26

Congratulations VQ glad to hear your good news.

Sorry everything's so shit for you Tits. My SIL was turned away by Ninewells in Dundee because they had no space (she was in early labour) so she drove up to Perth hospital where they let her in. Also, I was miles away from home today in Bangor today; if I had a problem I would have gone to the nearest hospital not the one I'm booked in for. So there must be possibilities for going elsewhere. Can you get any extra help at home or with the kids? I wish I could come over there and help you out as you're clearly in distress. How can the hospital staff treat you so shabbily?

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 27-Oct-12 18:37:15

Welcome Jacob! Congrats vq you sound full of the newborn happiness is wonderful.

What's it all about. All day achey pelvic area and pubic bone and constant rock hard bump. It is like early contractions but is constant rather than waves. I want to burst into tears constantly and my lower back is sore. sad

Is it just more of the delusional? Or could things be about to kick off? confused

shanelle5 Sat 27-Oct-12 18:42:04

Yay for vq need photo on FB please when you have chance and full birth story grin We just need horsey now, do hope it went ok for her and love to hear all the news and ongoing birth stories even though am very envy

Really want to have my baby but really scared of giving birth. Anyone else feeling the same? Have been doing the hypnobirthing and yoga but still pertrified as it HUUUUUUURRRTTTTTSSSS! I know i know its worth it and its only one day out of your life which leads to lovely newborn snuggles but am a bit of a wuss especially hate the transition part.
Have done it 4 times so people keep saying to me well it cant be that bad if you keep doing it but its not that, just that your brain blocks out the pain very cunningly after so you forget quite how horrid it is. Sorry to any first time Mummies for being insensitive or scaring anyone, just wanted to voice fears and see if any others are feeling same x

StuntNun Sat 27-Oct-12 18:53:56

Shanelle I had an hour of contractions last night, every eight minutes but irregular duration so I knew they weren't going anywhere. But it did make me think "I can't do this again". Silly me, I've managed twice before haven't I? And there will be a gorgeous baby at the end of it.

daisychain76 Sat 27-Oct-12 18:57:08

Shanelle l have felt the same all 3 pregnancies and know l would again if l went for no.4. For me l think it is partly the fact you never know how/when it will happenand no 2 births are the same. As you say tho it is just 1 day (or so) and totally worth it. At least your body knows what its doing and hopefully that will make things quicker and easier.

DebussyHead Sat 27-Oct-12 19:21:53

Congratulations VQ and all the other new mummies!!

Congratulations vq! He sounds lovely and a v good weight.

Congratulations to all the new mummies! smile I'm hoping to hold out till November... Due date 18th, wouldn't mind baby to come slightly earlier, but would like to get DD1's birthday over with on 31st first smile

I'm scared, my tummy keeps going rock hard and I've got near constant dull period pain.

I knew I shouldn't have tried to see if any colostrum would come out inthe bath. Ow sad

georgee Sat 27-Oct-12 19:46:52

Hurrah for your lovely new boy VQ, he sounds gorgeous and I love his name! You sound very happy. What a brilliant weight!

Another one with tightenings today. Fairly pleased as although it's nowhere near, I know it, I don't remember getting them last time and I hope this means that my body will be a bit better in terms of being geared up. It seemed a bit clueless last time! I would LOVE to go into labour naturally and am always very envy when I hear about waters breaking and plugs being lost! Talking of which, I hope horsey's doing OK!

Doing cheese, bacon and leek pie tonight, dubbed 'shag pie' in my younger days by me and my friends as every time it was dished up, that night was the night! My dad proposed to my mum after eating it too (which was a roundabout way of getting her into bed as they were pretty religious and didn't believe in extra-marital sex - at least that's the impression they've always given us!). However, very much hoping it doesn't work its usual magic tonight - the logistics of it all with the bump, the tightenings, it just seems too much of a faff!! However, if I get to being overdue I'll be dishing it up every night! I'll give the recipe to anyone who wants it wink.

Thoroughly disappointed, seems it was poo related blush although tummy still going hard.

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 20:13:50

Never mind DH. I get wee related tightenings.

Hmm not sure this does feel ever so slightly different...ill see how the evening pans out smile

kirrinIsland Sat 27-Oct-12 20:22:21

shanelle I'm the same. This is my second and I knew I'd be much more nervous this time - there's a kind of blissful ignorance that goes with your first!

DH could just be a warm up? But if you do go into labour I'll be straight in the bath and expressing

Sophie I've been a bit the same today, and I'd love to think things are about to kick off but, in my care at least, it's probably just wishful thinking.

I've been trying to think back to with DD but I honestly can't remember - does the baby go a bit quiet before things start moving?

Passmethecrisps Sat 27-Oct-12 20:33:21

Oooo! Well, Fingers crossed DH.

I am defo going 2 weeks over. Have decided. No arguments. May as well settle myself.

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 27-Oct-12 20:45:29

Had a soak in the bath, which relieved it all for about 10mins and now it has come back with sore lower back, light cramping and tightening in my bump, quite mellow but uncomfortable and definately there.

Peaky1 Sat 27-Oct-12 21:28:14

Bah. I'm feeling nothing other than consta-feckin-pation after not satisfying the urge at an inconvenient moment earlier today. Serves me right but it has made me angry. Eating fruit and had chilli with my dinner. I want a poo or a baby tonight!

DonnaDoon Sat 27-Oct-12 21:29:11

CongratulationsVQ Welcome to the world Jacob xxxx

Peaky1 Sat 27-Oct-12 21:29:27

Oops, can't even spell consti-fecking-pation right. The poo has travelled to my brain!

I've been to the loo (poo!) four times in the last two hours, everytime I go it feels better afterwards then about 10 mins after the pain starts up again and the hard tummy.

I'm in bed now trying to ignore it.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Sat 27-Oct-12 21:36:48

Ooh sound promising sophia! You too DH!

Really?? Argh I'm not ready I'm scared! Would it be a constant pain though?? It's like horrible period pain but not on and off like contractions.

jaylee89 Sat 27-Oct-12 22:34:06

Im having it aswel DH constant period pain feeling and been to toilet 4 times. It isnt nice its bloody annoying.....do not have sex it makes it worse. Hope you feel better

kissyfur Sat 27-Oct-12 22:43:13

Awww huge congrats to VQ so glad to hear all went well! thanks

Sounds like things could be happening for you sophia, DH and jaylee!

Sorry you've been treated so badly Tits I'm shocked that they are just leaving you in so much pain and so immobile too sad sending you a hug.

No signs of anything happening here, bug that's fine. Baby can stay put for a while longer, at least til we get all the all the furniture we order today delivered and put up! I am really hoping that today's trip there will be the last for a long while!

horseylady Sat 27-Oct-12 23:23:25

He's here. I'm fucked.

Both of us shell shocked, but safe!!

Born by foreceps (nearly emcs) at 6.30pm after 4 hours of pushing.

8lbs near enough. May or may not do birth story I need to process it first!

StuntNun Sat 27-Oct-12 23:26:46

Congratulations Horsey! It can take a long time to process a difficult labour but the main thing is that he arrived safe and sound.

kirrinIsland Sat 27-Oct-12 23:33:07

Congratulations horsey Like stunt says, the main thing is that he's safely here and that you are ok.

Peaky1 Sat 27-Oct-12 23:39:42

Congratulations to VQ and Horsey! Glad all are safe and well. I'm finding it astonishing that you were hiding an 8lb-er in there Horsey!

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Sat 27-Oct-12 23:41:33

Congratulations to the new mummies!

kissyfur Sat 27-Oct-12 23:41:38

Congrats horsey! Hope you start to feel better soon. I too am surprised you had an 8lber in there! Well done and enjoy these precious first few days smile

Iheartpasties Sat 27-Oct-12 23:56:21

horsey well done! Also lovely to hear from VQ, Jacob is a lovely name smile

Also very exciting there are lots of early labour signs at the moment!!

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 00:21:56

Congrats VQ and Horsey!! All these well behaved babies arriving early...! Love the name Jacob VQ just love it! I'm not shocked at your 8lber Horsey as I know how well they can hide in there!!!! And he did hide well!

Been out for a lovely meal with my Dad. DP did me proud... Made all the correct noises to keep my dad happy! So as a reward I am going to go near him. Somehow. Some way. Not sure how... But.... Errrrrrm?!

In other pop related news, it's happening here too! I've been for my second poo of the day didn't just admit that and this is not like me! And I get the pains when I need a poo too. Grrrrrrr.

Cacacaz Sun 28-Oct-12 01:09:06

Ahhh lots of lovely babies grin wonderful news, congratulations everyone, I hope you are all enjoying your baby snuggles.

tits I'm totally disgusted with how you have been treated, I really hope someone takes action for you soon

My inlaws are off on holiday for 2 weeks tomorrow am, to Lanzarote, they were hoping baby would arrive before they left but que sera sera. They knew when baby was due before they booked their holiday, in saying that both of my sil never got to 39 weeks with their babies.

georgee Sun 28-Oct-12 01:07:53

Bless you horsey. Don't worry if you don't feel you want to revisit the whole experience with us but we're here if you do. Four hours pushing is a long time, you must be knackered. And sore! Just enjoy your little chap - you're both safe and that's all that matters. Great weight. Hope you get some sleep tonight. x

shanelle5 Sun 28-Oct-12 04:38:05

WONDERFUL news horsey made m (very early) day and brightened up the 4 am sleeplessness, so happy to read your little man is here safe and sound and hugs to you for doing so well in carrying and giving birth to an 8lber- you did fab.
Cant wait to hear more on it (when you are ready), see piccies and hear name. Meanwhile, be good to yoursel, get rest, eat and lots of TLC to you both x

CandyPop Sun 28-Oct-12 04:57:17

Haven't been able to catch up for a few days and I come back to a new thread and 3/4 births!! Congratulations to those who's made it! I am super jealous !!

I reached 37 weeks yesterday! Yay!!! 2 days left of work next week so baby can come anytime after Thursday if she wishes grin. With all these beautiful babies being born I just want mine now!! I havent even contemplating she could be born be overdue... That would potentially mean another 5 weeks!

I'm not sure if if its just wishful thinking and whether they r phantom symptoms but I have period like pains on and off and frequent poo trips inc one just now at 4.30am.

I'm also not sure if I had any braxton hicks.... My tummy does go hard a few times a day but many coincides with when I've just eaten blush. Also my bump is all to the front anyway so very big and tight normally anyway...

Congrats horsey!!

Nothing exciting here I'm afraid, went to bed and laid on my left and the pain just stopped grr! Have been willing it back on but no such luck.

Also ds decided to wake up at 6 which was actually 5 ugh. I feel way too tired today.

Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 28-Oct-12 06:15:09

Am still here. Had a lovely nights sleep and all quiet so far. Which is good as I would really like to hold off till Thurs. I think I need to slow down though.

Congrats horsey good job, can't believe you pushed for so long, you must be exhausted. Take care of yourself. Xx

SwissArmyWife Sun 28-Oct-12 06:16:10

Aw VQ he sounds lovely, congratulations smile

And horsey well done to you, congratulations on your very well hidden little boy!

Makes me wonder what weight mine will be now shock

12 days to go until due date!

Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 28-Oct-12 06:18:49

And at somea point horsey you should chat through your birth with someone and work through your feelings about it, it will help you move on from it. I didn't with DS and have had quite a lot f things to deal with getting ready for this time, so maybe ask for a debrief while you are still in hosp. They may not offer it. Xx

pikz Sun 28-Oct-12 06:29:25

Congrats horsey welcome to the world little man.

Congrats VQ another little man.

Am green with envy....want to meet mine now!

Iheartpasties Sun 28-Oct-12 06:33:17

sohpia very good point, horsey talk as much or as little as you want with the birth. I talked and talked about mine with dh afterwards and it helped. I find myself telling my tale quite a bit now, and actually I am starting to get my head around the idea that I will soon have a new story to tell.

jaylee89 Sun 28-Oct-12 07:30:41

Bloody nothing here either. Didnt get up for a wee all night though i slept right through! But was busting when i did wake.

Going to cinema today to watch paranormal activity so hopefully that will bring something on lol (wishful thinking) 38 weeks today.....COME ON BABY!

HUGE CONGRATULATIONS horsey we are here when you are ready to talk about your birth. So sorry it was tough hope you feel better soon...enjoy your snuggles -hugs-

ShellyBobbs Sun 28-Oct-12 07:40:58

Congratulations Horsey you have done amazing. Hope you can now get plenty of rest as you'll need it. Hugs to you both x

ValiumQueen Sun 28-Oct-12 07:42:15

Congratulations horsey I am sorry it was not the birth you wanted, and my sympathies on the forceps. You have clearly been through the mill, and I hope the newborn snuggles are making up for it. I also second talking about it when you are ready.looking forward to hearing a name.

blonder practically cloth twins! Have you put one on yet?

Also congratulations Tia I have not read the other thread, so apologies if I missed anyone.

AFM, survived the first night at home. Third night with no sleep, but the feeding has payed off as I have milk! One huge boob, and the other is visibly growing. Jacob cannot believe his luck. Sore, swollen from the IV fluids, and getting all the contracting after pains when feeding, but all going well. Been a while since I was pissed on too, so getting used to boy baby.

Jacob was one of the first names I suggested, and was vetoed. The night before baby arrived, DH said 'his name is Jacob'. I said OK. Not quite used to it, as people ask and I go 'umm, Jacob'.

Iheartpasties Sun 28-Oct-12 07:52:24

VQ it's all sounding great!

ValiumQueen Sun 28-Oct-12 08:01:15

DD1 is feeling pushed out again, but DD2 is so in love with her baby brudda, and being so gentle, I am really quite amazed. DH is shattered, and this morning I was feeding Jacob with all three of them snoring away in bed next to me. We got up and slept in DD1s bed for about an hour, and woke up with a basket ball boobie!

I do hope your babies arrive soon as it is much more fun this side, although I had forgotten how hard the first few days are!

Good morning.

We've taken a day out today, no one from anywhere got back to me yesterday.
DP is shattered, I'm exhausted and both the kids are behaving so badly (unsurprising)
The house is beginning to get messy which is setting off my anxiety (very small problem at present I know)
Trying to sort half term care/entertainment is proving fruitless.
So yes, Tomorrow all organisations/places are open. My community midwife (they say) is back, DP has his final allowed day off work.
I'm going to start a thread just to get all this anger and disappointment written down I think.

Congratulations Horsey and anyone else I might of missed. smile

Nothing I don't think happening in the way of labouring by myself here ( although as I told the hospital I can barely distinguish between fetal movement and pain atm regardless of anything being a contraction!)

Passmethecrisps Sun 28-Oct-12 08:50:36

Oh my goodness Horsey! What an amazing weight. Sorry for my total ignorance - how long is typical for pushing? 4 hours sounds like a very long time.

I hope you are getting lots of rest and that Mr Horsey is looking after you.

Great to hear from you VQ. Being baby side does sound much more fun than bump side. You painted a lovely family picture.

Oooh I managed to squeeze colostrum out both sides grin

Chunkychicken Sun 28-Oct-12 09:07:39

congratulations horsey. Lovely news and a great weight.

Went to the wedding yesterday and although DD was a sweetheart really and it was a lovely day, a couple of days without full naps and DD was running about like a mad thing at 8pm when all I wanted to do was relax a bit, so we left at 9. I was so tired I could have cried!! Had backache and BH all the way home. Seems my body likes doing trial-runs in the evening.

Want things to kick off but equally started feeling weepy with the thought of how much it will affect DD. Madness!! Baby will probably take a couple more weeks yet, so will have to make the most of DD while I can.

pass think up to 2hrs pushing is average. Positioning of both baby and mum is key here: if things are taking time, sometimes just letting gravity help speeds things up. I wish I had known that with my DD, as I was laid on my back and despite active labour being really quick, it took a long time to push, so I should have flipped myself onto all fours or something. Won't make that mistake this time!! smile

Good luck Tits hope you get some action on your behalf.

Passmethecrisps Sun 28-Oct-12 09:12:10

Thank you chunky!

It must be very weird thinking about the impact on your first born - we are distracte enough by the impact on the cat! Hopefuly you will have a lovely week or two to have lots of DD time.

I don't think ds will be in the slightest bit bothered/ interested in the baby but will prob be out out that he won't have my constant attention but he's v good at entertaining himself.

We got the Moses basket down from the loft, just aswell because it needed a wash! Looks really strange seeing it next to the bed again.

MissMummy1 Sun 28-Oct-12 09:26:30

Congrats horsey!! Hope the newbie snuggles are totally making up for everything. Can't wait to see pics and hear a name xxxx

In laws eventually turned up 3.5 hours late yesterday. No apology whatsoever. Had a lovely meal out last night but then this morning after dh had gone to work they announced they were going out for breakfast and 'could I stay and look after the dog' ?! I just can't get over how rude they are! Or am I missing something? They've totally overtaken the house too, but my main gripe there actually is an unreasonable control freak lack of organisation thing! Arghhh! Repeat, it's only a few days....

Passmethecrisps Sun 28-Oct-12 09:36:26

Oh MM so much for plans for them to entertain themselves - sounds like they are all over it! Cheeky swines.

Woke myself up snoring this morning. Still feel pretty dozy whereas DH is actually bouncing around tigger stylee.

Iheartpasties Sun 28-Oct-12 10:07:01

It is nearly November! Horay!

WaitingForMe Sun 28-Oct-12 10:19:41

Wow at the audacity of them MM shock

Congratulations VQ and horsey. Still seems unreal I'll have one myself soon.

Lilliana Sun 28-Oct-12 10:30:09

Big congratulations to VQ, Horsey and Tia

Finally managed to catch up, I'm hoping I'll do better when I'm on mat leave!

I'm pretty sure I will be overdue so settled in for a few weeks yet; I hope some other people will still be around!

Is there a stats list for people who have had babies/not yet had babies around anywhere?

Iheartpasties Sun 28-Oct-12 11:05:11

My husband normally cycles into work coz it is only down the road, but tomorrow he is going to take the car! It's so he can head home asap when he gets 'the' phone call! Seems a bit surreal to be honest!

wellieboots Sun 28-Oct-12 11:37:31

Congrats horsey, even if it wasn't the birth that you wanted, you have done it! Your little boy is here safely and that is the only thing that matters. Try and see if you can get a debrief either while you're still in hospital or later on, if you think that would help you to process it.

Congrats vq, family life sounds amazing and I love the name.

How many more babies before we get to November?!

And tits I really hope you get some answers on Monday, we are all so angry about the way you've been treated

ShellyBobbs Sun 28-Oct-12 11:56:41

Lovely to hear from you VQ, glad everything is well grin

I'm covered from head to toe in Sudocreme! This itchy rash won't be soothed with calomine.

I'm losing a lot of mucus, a lot thicker than it has been. Pleeeeease let something be happening (but not til wed!)

mrswee Sun 28-Oct-12 12:20:22

turn my head for a day or two and so many babies get born!
congratulations all of you!

horsey your short and blunt post makes me think of the birth of my DD 3 years ago, that is exactly how I felt and we had a forcepts fully preped up in theatre because it was almost a very last min emergancy CS.
I hope you recover quickly. Try taking Arnica if you aren't already. x

Chunkychicken Sun 28-Oct-12 12:21:31

Oh wow, DH that does sound like things gearing up!! 37wks on Wed? I have had a lot of discharge/mucus too, which is disconcerting to say the least, but nothing like a show/mucus plug.

DD has just told me she wants baby here now. Very hard trying to explain to her that I don't get a say in that...grin

YellowWellies Sun 28-Oct-12 12:52:58

Horsey you total legend. If you've not already got get Mr Horsey out to get distilled witch hazel bp. Pop a cap full on yer maternity pad - tis a god send for stitches. Also make friends with a bidet. TMI alert but I do a happy wiggle bordering on the orgasmic when I put on a fresh pad!

All good here, peedie (orcadian for little) man is doing so well. We're ramming him full of my expressed milk and he's working on his tan to beat the jaundice. No transfusions up here. He's been on the breast (and got a tidal wave poor wee guy!) and we should be trying full on Bfing tomo if his levels stay down. Can't be out of the light too long just yet. He's lying next to me and is squeaking and wriggling in his sleep.

The care up here is mindblowing DH slept in with us last night - am feeling v lucky. Tits get yer self up here ASAP

VQ your wee man sounds perfect. Well done hen x x

Awesome news from Tia (thea was on our girl list!) and Blonder. Good luck to everyone. Life on the other side is amazing!

ShellyBobbs Sun 28-Oct-12 13:07:34

Good to hear from you YW, so glad things are progressing nicely with your little man grin

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 13:09:29

Another good nights sleep here blush I am getting much better at getting myself back to sleep grin Had no idea what time it was when I decided to get up though... was it 10? Or 11? Or 12... it was one of them anyway!!

Planning a chill out day, doing as little as possible! My Dad bought me Raclette cheese back from Switzerland, so that is tea sorted grin. Been craving it for a looooooooooooooong time! I love it! For those who don't know, its a Swiss cheese, and you do it with boiled new potatoes, pickles, and black pepper, the cheese gets melted under a grill on the table, and you pour it over. It is lush! And I don't really like cheese dishes usually! First time I had it I was 13, and had a proper 13 year old teenage strop I DON'T EVEN LIKE CHEESE! Not sure how they got me to try it, but I've never looked back! You can put other things with it, DP has his with ham, he rolls the potatoes, pickles and cheese in to a slice of ham!

Is it wrong to want my tea now?!

Oh, and here is a question for you from DS. He wants to know of any movies which aren't comedy, and don't have smoochy romantic stuff in it! He reckons every film has boring romantic bits in! I must admit to be scratching my head! I can only suggest horrors, which I won't be suggesting to him ha! Please give me ideas to throw back at him grin

StuntNun Sun 28-Oct-12 13:17:29

Detective Die Hard is an action film with no romantic bits in it. Also Aliens is sci-if but he might be a bit young for that! The Incredible Hulk has minimal romance as Bruce Banner's girlfriend has a new beau in it. Ghostbusters doesn't really have romance but could be considered a comedy. Jaws doesn't have much in the way of romance either.

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 13:25:02

Ah hah... off to make him eat his words wink cheers stunt!

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 13:28:00

OH FGS! He said all those have romance in, except he hasn't seen Aliens or Die Hard!

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 13:40:52

Has anyone else still not turned the heating on blush? I fear DP and DS may be turning to ice poles, while I'm still sat here in pj bottoms and vest tops! I even slept without covers on last night!

I just keep telling them to layer up grin I usually have the heating on year round!

Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 28-Oct-12 13:50:04

I am cold!! Despite the extra layer! I think is because I always seem to be tired, I have been snuggled up on the sofa in a blanket AND we have the heating on!

None of the war films DH watches have romance or humour and that is why I leave him to it!

DH Huzzah for mucus!

SwissArmyWife Sun 28-Oct-12 14:01:20

I have a question for you ladies -

Do any of you have "the purple line" yet?
It's a line that moves up from the anus to the top of the buttocks during labour and apparently once it reaches the top you are fully dilated. (For anyone who didn't know)

However I have one and it's already at the top so this is clearly rubbish! Anybody know why mine might be visible already (pressure from baby?) Despite the fact I am obviously not in labour let alone fully dilated!

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 14:04:43

Um, no I don't have one according to DP as I can't see my butt and no I don't know why you would have one when not in labour! I'll have a google grin

I won't ask how you noticed it grin

I'm just a sweaty monster then Sophia! I can clearly feel its cold, but am much more comfortable being cold!

horseylady Sun 28-Oct-12 14:09:57

2 hours normal. He was back to back twisted head, cord round neck and stuck! I started to panic plus I was exhausted from pushing.

Started off fab in pool though with no pain relief. Then had gas and air over transition then nothing in pushing.

Then after 3 hours I said I couldn't carry on, baby made no progression so went from midwife to consultant. He was fab, he was truly wonderful but I struggled with the internal exam (no pain relief!!) so I was taken to theatre. Spinal then he could do the internal and see where he was lying and decide between suction or c section. He then said forceps was the only option of assisted delivery and only if I could push well enough and secondly if he could lock the forceps on. Thankfully I could push, he got the forceps on, baby came out!! Obviously both of us shell shocked, battered and bruised but my plan was always keep us both safe.

He's worth every second of yesterday (most of which I don't actually remember!). He's lovely his bruises are fading he just needs to eat!!! Expressed some into a cup just so hes eaten now they hope he will get established he's just sleeping lots. Plus hes still under 3 hourly observations for the peaditrician as he was making funny noises post birth. He's stopped now but still full of mucus etc.

Thechick Sun 28-Oct-12 14:25:21

It's so exciting that more babies are being born. My LO is 3 weeks old today. Cannot believe how quickly the time is going. Looking forward to seeing you all on the post natal thread.

StuntNun Sun 28-Oct-12 14:38:22

Wow Horsey it sounds like you both did really well with all those hardships. I hope you're recovering well. I'm sure baby's head is a bit sore but he'll get better fast. Is your DH looking after you both?

Chunkychicken Sun 28-Oct-12 15:33:37

Well done Horsey - yet another example of why its called 'labour' huh? I'm sure the pain/discomfort/memories etc will fade in the next day or few. Enjoy your little man.

Have had a visit from a MW with the home birth kit, so as of tomorrow (assuming antibodies blood test comes back normal) its all go for Operation Home Delivery wink. Did get the car,seat out today, check for stress/wear & tear issues & wash the covers, so if we need to go to hospital, we should be able to bring baby home in a nice clean seat at least.

WaitingForMe Sun 28-Oct-12 15:36:28

Regarding witch hazel am I looking for a pure oil I dilute or a particular product?

MissMummy1 Sun 28-Oct-12 16:28:33

Shit I fell asleep all afternoon blush. Inlaws nowhere to be seen - cars are there so they won't be far unfortunately - me and the dog are snoozing. How is it possible to be this tired after an extra hours sleep?!

DH has suggested a massive chinese take away tonight for the 7 of us. He won't be ashore till near enough 8pm though so I might just be antisocial and opt for a bowl of cereal. Heartburn central here atm!!

Gosh horsey sounds rough - well done you though! My birth plan says strictly no drugs but I'm not half as strong as you by the sounds of it so imagine that will quickly change!!

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 16:46:12

I just want to give you a big hug Horsey you did a fantastic job, keeping you and baby safe!

MM I've been contemplating a nap all afternoon blush but been trying to resist as baby has been quiet so waiting for him to wake up. Seems he likes evenings at the minute! He was quiet in the day yesterday until evening too! I want a nap though <stamps feet>.

I don't think I am going to get my wish of a baby today sad Oh well, thursday is the next date I quite like!

horsey what an ordeal! Glad you and baby are doing well now smile

chunky I'm 37 weeks on Tues but would rather she waited til wed because then it'll have been 2 weeks since the WC jab, plus I want to carve pumpkins with ds!

Fwiw, I have no purple line smile

ValiumQueen Sun 28-Oct-12 17:12:44

Not nice horsey sounds as if you did remarkably well, and was very brave. I hope all your wounds heal in time x

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 17:16:34

I'm having a hard enough time reaching to wipe, let alone see purple lines blush

YellowWellies Sun 28-Oct-12 17:49:27

Waiting its not the essential oil it's a first aid kit rather than an aromatherapy product. It comes in glass bottles and looks like water. Ask in boots pharmacy section for distilled witch hazel bp. I loves it.

Horsey it sounds like you did an amazing job of a difficult presentation. Back to back is a bitch! We is the hardcore ladies on this thread.

Im just back from an hr break on the outside (we went to lidl for cake!!) its so good to be back with Jonas smile

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sun 28-Oct-12 17:51:57

Congrats horsey and hope you are both recovering from your ordeal. Sounds like you were very brave indeed. Enjoy the snuggles.

Good to hear from you VQ and hope the post-section recovery goes well.

Tits how are you doing?

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 17:52:46

I feel like I am rattling around an empty house in here today!

It is quieter than usual shock

YellowWellies Sun 28-Oct-12 17:53:58

I only got the purple line in labour - it did indeed emerge txixt my butt cheeks when I was fully dilated. The midwives looked out for it.

MM1 sounds ideal - house guests you don't see! Why inflict themselves if they're going to go AWOL and dump the dog on you?! Hope you have a lovely Chinese x

MissMummy1 Sun 28-Oct-12 18:06:57

The dog is lovely. She's welcome back anytime grin !

I'm still around. I've been working out solutions for the up coming week.

DP has taken the boys out to dinner to keep as much normality as possible in place as we always have a Sunday dinner out.

He is going to do all the phoning tomorrow and play advocate, we think if it comes from him to say he is concerned about my MH and the effect it's having on the family and he can vouch for the massive impact this is having on out lives we might shift someone.
So on the agenda for people to contact first thing tomorrow is,

Community midwife - I needed to talk to her today anyway but we want her to come to the house and see the issues and get a trace of baby at the same time since the scan was never done and I'm still unsure about what is/isn't fetal movement because of the pain.

Supervisor/head if midwives in our local hospital or the trust - DP is great on the phone and I'm confident he will get to at least talk to him/her where as I get fobbed off as an emotional wreck.

PALS - we're both certain regardless of outcome and the when and where's this needs a hefty complaint, I never want anyone to go through this at all.

We have DS1's community care nurse coming over anyway to do some regular stuff with him and to flush his portacath, their whole team is amazing so I'm going to call ahead in the morning to make them aware of what's going on to maybe get some extra support for the boys, they're scheduled to be out with the team on Tuesday for the day anyway but they might be able to offer something else in the way of help.

I've contacted our usual babysitter and she is happy to come and take the kids out for walks or to the park or somewhere just out for fresh air and excessive for an hour or 2 on wed/thu/fri.

I've obviously not moved today, DP has been running himself into the ground doing everything and still working at the same time, I'm quite worried about him commuting 2-3 hrs from Tuesday onwards at 5am whilst exhausted tbh.
BIL will be staying with us from Wed onwards to help with the kids breakfast/lunch/dinner.

All I need now is someone to help with cleaning/laundry but that is at present proving fruitless. Hopefully tomorrow might get some results with everything back to weekday opening.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sun 28-Oct-12 18:28:21

Tits hopefully having a plan of action for tomorrow is making you feel a bit better. Really hope something comes of your (very justified) complaints.

Thechick Sun 28-Oct-12 18:42:55

Looks like we crossed posts horsey congrats on he newborn, it sounds like you really went through it. Both my babies were back to back. my first ended in emcs and second he was early so had my vbac. It's 'funny' if thats the correct word, how you don't really remember it. I think it's because I was so sleep deprived. I had to ask dh to clarify the events of the night. Hope you are doing okay.

kirrinIsland Sun 28-Oct-12 18:55:12

Sounds like you did really well horsey

Dispite a few promising hopeful twinges this morning, nothing is happening here. I'm literally praying for twinges now.

MM AWOL in laws are the best sort!

Never heard of the purple line and definitely not capable of checking if I have one!

ValiumQueen Sun 28-Oct-12 18:59:27

detective you probably have a brown line then grin

Elizadoesdolittle Sun 28-Oct-12 19:00:47

Just quickly marking my place and saying huge congratulations to vq and horsey. I will go back through the thread and read your posts properly later.

Had a fab time at wedding. Was a long day though and did lots of dancing so am really shattered. Will get DD off to bed and then catch up with all the news.

Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 28-Oct-12 19:24:03

swissi have the purple line!

Peaky1 Sun 28-Oct-12 19:33:55

Lines on bums? Wtf? Lol! That's a new one in me.

Cheers for the witch hazel explanation. I'll have a look when I'm at the shops tomorrow.

Today has been nice. Just been busy with cleaning and errands during the day, had friends round, DP cooked dinner and now relaxing in front of the telly! Boring update I guess but I've got a relaxed fuzzy feeling tonight (esp as DP had allowed me to watch the crap that I like and he doesn't on tv e.g my recording of last week's strictly!) Mind you I've got to endure x-factor later for him so its all give n take I guess!

kirrin I've been egging on every tiny twinge too and I'm not even 37 weeks yet and would really rather she stayed put for at least another week but I'm so fed up of being preg now I want to meet my little lady!

The thought of you all examining your bum has made me chuckle. smile

SwissArmyWife Sun 28-Oct-12 19:45:07

Haha, I had to have a look after reading about it, wasn't difficult to do but then I've got a big mirror in my bathroom lol. blush

Hmmm I wonder why it's there then, I do only have 12 days to go so I'll have to put my patient hat on for the time being.

Chunkychicken Sun 28-Oct-12 20:04:50

I think the only way I could see any arse-feature, let alone a line betwixt my cheeks, is by asking DH to view and the romance has gone as it is, let aloe with anal perusals!! wink

I only had my WC jab on Friday and I asked about the 2wk thing, DH, as obviously with all the twinges and baby starting to engage, I'm concerned I won't make it that far; she said that any antibodies made would protect me and stop me passing it on. hmm I really wish they had made it a bit more of a priority, like they did with my flu jab, as I'm worried that, being #2 with a toddler sibling will mean s/he come into contact with more bugs than DD did at the same age.

WaitingForMe Sun 28-Oct-12 20:13:26

Thanks for the explanation YW.

I don't imagine I have a purple line above my arse as DH helped me with my moisturiser this morning and he's somewhat disconcertingly fascinated by changes in my body. Examining the giant pores under my nipples was not a high point in my life. Anyway, I'm sure he'd have commented if he'd seen something new hmm

Passmethecrisps Sun 28-Oct-12 20:22:18

Hia. horsey you are a total and utter champion.

Erm, I don't get this purple line thing. obviously I wandered off upstairs to check out my arse. I have a big reddish, purpley line which is surely where my big old cheeks are squashed together. How can anyone see between their cheeks? What kind of line are we actually look for here? Do I dare google?

I bought some Witch Hazel yesterday in boots. I read about putting some on a pad and putting the pad in the fridge before using. Seemed like a good idea.

Passmethecrisps Sun 28-Oct-12 20:24:20

Oh, and we went to see Skyfall. It was extra-awesome. I am sooooooooooo thirsty though. DH ended up buying two mahooooosive cups of juice and we finished both.

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 20:30:54

Oh fuck sticks sad I've got myself worked right up in to a frenzy. Baby just won't move. I've tried it all. There were some movements earlier but very gentle ones. Im going to ring to be seen now as I'm just sat here panicking nothing new there. I was hopeful that it just means I'm close to labour but the movements were definitely less than usual yesterday although there was a busier spell in the evening.

DP will have to stay at home with DS as no one to babysit. I'm worried that something will happen and I'll be on my own.

I need to get a grip here. <slaps self> I'll update later. Very very poor signal at hospital. Don't be surprised to not hear anything for a few hours. Hope I'll be laughing at my stupid self later!

Passmethecrisps Sun 28-Oct-12 20:34:29

detective get yourself for a check up - you know that as soon as they strap you up baby will have a good old wiggle.

Good luck and check in when you can.

Peaky1 Sun 28-Oct-12 20:35:58

Hope everything goes ok Detective and that you're laughing at yourself very shortly.

Pass I'm half tempted to google but I don't want to look at women's bumholes!!!! Hopefully there is just a niiiice tasteful (!) diagram somewhere confused

Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 28-Oct-12 20:36:53

Good luck detective

I had a right old stupid panic earlier, I got stuck, stationary, on m25 about three cars behind an accident with lots of ambulances, I was envisaging it being one of those that takes hours to clear and I suddenly thought, what if my waters go, I sat in the car and started to cry. I wanted to go home and I was stuck! It was a horrible feeling.

Anyway 'twas obviously only a bump as 10 minutes later I was on my merry way feeling stupid!

Labour is out of bounds now till Thurs afternoon whilst I spend quality holiday time with my girls. grin

Passmethecrisps Sun 28-Oct-12 20:44:42

peaky I did google. Not really any the wiser to be frank. My wobbly bottom always has a line I am sure - it's where the cheeks have to lean against each other. I think I am more likely to start labour by straining round with my bottom in the air!

That sounds horrid sophia! I am glad you were zooming on your way again very quickly

chunky let's hope you're LO holds on so you make the anti bodies, they are a bit silly assuming all preg wil go to at least 40 weeks. This thread alone proves that's v much not the case!

detective hope all is ok with you and bubba smile

Lane81 Sun 28-Oct-12 21:37:32

Huge congrats horsey I hope the memories start to fade and you are enjoying the first few days with your son.

Is there a stats list for who is left/who has had their baby? It feels like there can't be many left! So many October babies!

Dixiebell Sun 28-Oct-12 21:47:44

Why don't we update the stats list here: http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1485512-November-2012-Stats-List
With actual births; name, date, sex, weight?

Dixiebell Sun 28-Oct-12 21:48:35
kirrinIsland Sun 28-Oct-12 21:55:14

Hope everything is ok detective

Not sure I really want to be looking at my bum in the mirror!

I had some really strong Braxton Hicks earlier. I started to think perhaps something was happening and panicked because I haven't finished packing my hospital bag yet but they have since eased off. Must get my bag ready tomorrow though.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Sun 28-Oct-12 22:14:32

Hope youre getting checked out now detective and that baby is happily wriggling around.

I'm just home after being taken for dinner by mum and dad. I had 3 courses and it was fab! I enjoyed it all yet could happily eat again.

Going to sort my bags out tomorrow in the hope we get a go ahead for induction at clinic and daycare in tues. I had originally packed a baby bag and a hospital bag but I think I'll change to a kind of induction /labour bag and a separate bag with extras for staying longer or something. It's kind of hard to figure what's best as last time I was induced on the Sun and had baby Tues am but stayed in til Thurs night so if same will need more clothes etc for me as well as baby! Hmmmmm any thoughts???

StuntNun Sun 28-Oct-12 22:20:35

Detective my baby has been the same today: a few little gentle movements but not much going on. I had a big glass of cold water and that prompted a bit of wriggling but no kicks. Maybe he's having a quiet day.

MissMummy1 Sun 28-Oct-12 22:25:40

Must be a quiet baby day all round as mine's been quite subdued today too!

YellowWellies Sun 28-Oct-12 22:28:53

Stunt and Detective - looking back the only vague hint of labour I had in the 24 hrs before was baby being a lot stiller. He wasn't engaged, I didn't feel odd or hormonal or anything different. Only Jonas was a bit quieter - clearly the ''youre about to go into labour" memo was only sent to him!

Peaky - Witch hazel

YellowWellies Sun 28-Oct-12 22:31:33

Woo MM1 cross post! You too eh? I wonder who'll be next!!

GTbaby Sun 28-Oct-12 22:48:21

225 posts to catch up on!
Saw on FB horsey n blonder have popped. Welcome to the gang!

I had a fab day. We celebrated 13 day of our son being here! I didn't even know its something we celebrate in my culture. Lol mil told us about it Friday ( which caused slight issues with DH) but anyway. We had all the women in the family over to see the little one and had some yummy food n caught up with everyone.

Right. Better get reading to catch up!

Iheartpasties Sun 28-Oct-12 23:20:10

gtbaby that sounds really nice! It's great to celebrate the arrival of your baby as much as possible!!

shelly your ichiness sounds awful, really rotten luck, is it the same thing that gt had though? I've seen black tar soap mentioned, it releives the itchiness, i read it on a thread on mn somewhere.

I've just had breakfast and put a load in the wash. I bought new sheets, but have got two fitted sheets and no flat ones, whoops. I'll have a look online to see if i can order some, you need flat sheets to sleep under over here. I am going to order a few christmas pressies for dd today, and must get a birthday pressie for my nephew ordered.

ShellyBobbs Sun 28-Oct-12 23:20:30

Horsey Glad you are both OK after that awful experience, you must have been so frightened!

Detective I had 2 very quiet days and today was the third - until tonight and baby has gone mad! I didn't worry though because although it was very, very slow, there was movement, but no kicking. Lots of kicking tonight and plenty of pressure pain. Hope everything is alright with you and baby.

Right, I'm off to look at my arse then grin

ShellyBobbs Sun 28-Oct-12 23:22:18

Pasties I don't think it is, the doctor doesn't seem worried so I'm just staying slathered in Sudocreme - my bloods all came back clear.

Iheartpasties Sun 28-Oct-12 23:47:07

oh good - shelly smile well apart from the itchiness which must be a bitch.

TheDetective Sun 28-Oct-12 23:57:46

Bollocks. Been admitted. CTG wasn't great. Have movements now, better than I was having but CTG was crap. Heart rate is 160-170. Am now on the ward, CTG being repeated in 2 hours. BH's regular and were showing up on trace.

Concerned about growth again, so having a scan in the morning (hopefully) and another CTG. Can go home if CTG becomes normal.

Basically, there could be something going on. Or could be nothing.

Had a VE, cervix favourable multips os, for anyone who doesn't know what that is, basically a baggy sack lmao! It's opened and shorter because I've had a baby before. If needed my waters could be broken. So I'm taking that as good. Except head is high still so not so good.

Oh and DP forgot to change the bulb in his headlight so he is now fannying around trying to get home and back here with stuff for overnight. Maybe now he will learn his lesson and not leave things hmm

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 00:38:23

And now baby Detective is back to his usual cervix grabby, bum shoving, hip crushing self. And has been for the last 30 minutes.

You little devil child!


I think he thinks he is being funny.....!!

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 00:45:03

Forgot to say we found a babysitter in the end as I was being a wimp and didn't want to go in on my own!

Good job really!

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 01:01:56

Oh lord the shame! DP brought my stuff shoved in to an asda carrier bag.


We have lots of fucking bags! What is wrong with him!!!

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 01:05:05

No contact lenses, no toothbrush or toothpaste, no towel, no deodorant.

Note to self: pack a hospital bag just in case.... Grrrr!

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 02:00:42

Detective, phew I am glad he is wriggling again. Big relief. Will you be able to get any sleep, hope so.

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 02:24:41

Thanks pasties! Ive just had the repeat CTG, and it was text book! Baseline now 120-130! Lovely accelerations, good variability, no decelerations! Naughty baby indeed!

BHs still regular and a little twingy at times... Hmmmm. If anything happens I'll be running out of here back home! blush Quite the opposite to what most other people would be doing!!!!

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 02:51:45

more good news!! awesome!

StuntNun Mon 29-Oct-12 04:02:28

Glad to hear everything's okay with you and baby Detective. I hope you get home before the lady in the next bed complains about your lack of toothpaste/deodorant lol. Maybe we should add pen and paper to our hospital bag lists for writing down important bits of info for OHs. My big worry is that I'll have to stay in hospital longer than planned and if my DH has to bring in more clothes I'll end up with nothing wearable and no knickers.

What the hell kind of time is this? I can't sleep and don't even feel tired. I'm tempted to try and do some clearing up as DH and the kids have comprehensively wrecked the place over the weekend. I stayed up till 1 a.m. Friday night to get the place all spic and span, bathrooms cleaned, ironing all done etc. The reasoning being that if I did go into labour then everything would be ready here and there would be room for my mum's air bed. The kids have just made their usual mess but DH has brought loads of things down from the loft so there are bags and boxes and random bits like clothes and toys lying all over the study which my mum will need to use when she comes over when I go into labour. Somehow I can't see myself having the energy to tidy all that up while I'm having contractions. The worst thing is he brought down all this random stuff but he still couldn't find the cot bedding angry This baby is due in ten days and we still don't have ANY baby towels, gro-bags, sheets or blankets for him. I can't afford to buy new bedding when we already have a complete set just cos dickhead DH has left it to the last minute to look it (and even then only because I went up there myself to find it). I really thought by this stage I would be winding down and enjoying my last couple of weeks with my older boys before the baby arrives. Instead I'm stressed out an frantically trying to get everything sorted.

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 05:09:54

Oh stunt try not to stress too much about bedding and towels (although I completely sympathise with you, and totally understand how you feel about it). Don;t do too much on these last few days before the new one arrives!

I am sitting down now for a rest, I've not even done much today but my back kills.

Have such crap nights nowadays, up three or four times for a wee, bump really hurts if I try to turn over.

Sooo want this baby out now!

detective glad to hear your LO was just being a pickle!

Sophiathesnowfairy Mon 29-Oct-12 07:18:18

I was up too everyone buti couldn't be bothered to reach down for my iPad. I wish I had now.

detective that is good news I bet you were feeling a tad stressed about it all.

Today is operation exhaust three children so I can get my feet up at some point so we are off collecting convers and pine cones.


MissMummy1 Mon 29-Oct-12 07:42:22

Glad all is well detective.

I've worked out that lying on my right side is making me feel/be sick. Could it be the way junior's lying? My hips are now very crunchy and sore from being on my left all night :-(

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 07:44:15

The baby is doing some really good wriggling. I am trying to savor it! I know after DD was born sometimes I wish I could put her back inside!

Sophiathesnowfairy Mon 29-Oct-12 07:46:53

I remember feeling like that too pasties

The weirdest thing about having a baby you still expect to feel kicks and obv there aren't any!

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 07:59:31

I sort of felt 'phantom' kicks for quite a while after! very strange!!

Lane81 Mon 29-Oct-12 08:08:18

I have the thing where I feel sick/throw up whenever I lie on my right side-it's so weird/frustrating! Spent an hour throwing up last night!

Chunkychicken Mon 29-Oct-12 08:19:27

Glad everything has settled down Detective.

Can totally sympathise Stunt. Although I have had to bug DH to get things SORTED NOW and almost held a gun to his head at times, I do have the Moses basket & bedding sorted at least. If you do need to buy more bedding, can you go to Asda? The bedding is pretty good quality and not expensive. Having said that, I bought 2 John Lewis fitted sheets to fit the mattress for £12 (which I thought was a tad pricey) but they are lovely. However Asda ones did the job for DD!!

You should see our nursery though. Bare walls, no radiator, bare new plaster on the ceiling that needs special paint, bare skirting board where DH burnt back the old paint yesterday. Only a little further to go...hmm

As for baby movements, although I've had lots of wriggling this morning, I get far fewer kicks now, its all stretches and twitches, sometimes hiccups. Far fewer definite kicks/taps. I do get a bit concerned because it seemed that baby was fidgety in the morning, quieter afternoon, then really active in the evening. Now it seems baby is very active first thing and just shuffling around throughout the day, and sometimes a bit more active in the evening (but then I also get BH in the evening, so maybe that disguises movement??). I guess there's just less room so kicks aren't as easy? If baby just respond after a cold drink, prodding, light, lying down etc then I'll worry...

DD and I are going to wander the 5mins,walk to the local little library this morning, just to get us both out of the house for some fresh air.

StuntNun Mon 29-Oct-12 08:34:11

Sophia taking your kids to collect convers makes you sound like a regular Fagin grin

Chicken I have two Moses baskets sheets from John Lewis and they have stayed lovely and soft so maybe worth the price tag. The rest of the bedding I had have came from a market stall ten years ago and has done two children already.

Pasties thanks for putting it in perspective, it is a bit silly to be worrying about cot bedding. I think it's because the whole clearing out the loft argument has been going on for six years that it takes on an even greater significance, i.e. if we had only done it before now we wouldn't be in this literal mess. He has brought loads of stuff down and turned the immaculate house into a bomb site again. Now I have to fret about my mum having nowhere to sleep.

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 08:41:56

stunt I know I would be wound up in your situation, especially beacuse you didnt want the mess and un-organisation to happen, but try not to dwell on it! Men are such wierd creatures, its like they will do something we have asked but only in a crap-way or way after we wanted it done.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Mon 29-Oct-12 08:43:50

Morning all! Quite a dramatic evening for us last night, but nowt to do with baby grin

DD had a cold and raspy breathing all day y'day. She seemed fine though, eating and drinking ok and went to bed nicely. Then monster new sofas delivered at 10pm, which took the two removal men and DH an hour to get in the house as they were so ma-hoo-sive, and the front door somehow got removed in the process. Our lounge is now full of sofa. They are lush and so comfy though, and the big arm chair will be perfect for supporting bfing (I had to do it rugby ball style with DD).

However, after that all finished DD woke up coughing, puking flem and really really rasping and distressed. NHS direct called the out of ours dr for us, who sent us up to our walk in centre at the hospital. By the time we got there, DD was smiling and waving and saying hello and vastly improved (typical). However, lovely dr gave her steroids as she has croup apparently. Poor DD. She's fine this morning though. But a bit scary. This is the first time (21 months) she has had more than a sniffle.

Comedy moment when the dr asked if there was anything else so I thought I would mention I was pregnant in case it was relevant/an issue. The dr asked how far along. Marvellous. At 38 weeks with a potential 9/10lber according to scans, I still dont look discernably pregnant. And that's not a compliment.

Anyhoo, late night and bad sleep as I had DD in with me means today I shall mostly be sat on my new sofa demanding DH bring me nice things to eat.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Mon 29-Oct-12 08:44:05

Whoa, essay blush

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 08:56:46

I'm feeling all hot and flustered. Hormones are driving me mad! I want to go home. I hate hospitals!!!!!

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 08:58:15

madam That must have been pretty scary. I hate it when dd is ill! Your sofas sound lush!!

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 08:59:24

when will you get to go home detective?

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 09:01:27

After a scan. Hopefully this afternoon. I'll discharge myself if the scan isn't done by tea time. CTGs are ok and baby is active. So that is fine by me!

georgee Mon 29-Oct-12 09:10:37

Sorry you're in the hozza detective. Hoping you'll be able to go home soon, baby sounds absolutely fine anyway! I seem to remember having no toothbrush for about five days when I was in after my EMCS last time blush.

Worrying business MadamGazelle with your DD. Glad she's better today. Our DD was bad with a cold last night and up a couple of times but nothing worthy of NHS Direct. At this late stage of things you just feel you need to be conserving sleep if you can so when the older DC is sleep-depriving you, I for one get a bit panicked! Hope you get to lounge a lot on your lovely new sofas today.

DH was somewhat limited by a bad back this weekend so the car seat remains in the garage and the bath and pram in the loft. I really want to get everything out by the end of this week, then I feel I can relax a bit (yeah, right!).

No visits from MIL this week and I don't have any other childcare so facing 5 days straight with just me and DD - this wouldn't be a problem in normal circumstances but I just don't feel up to lots of entertaining and trips out. DD keeps going 'Mummy tired', poor thing. Hope it's not too boring for her! Library's a good idea chunky - we'll have to take the car but that's an hour or two killed.

The community midwife called first thing and is heading to my house before clinic this morning. She didn't sound uber pleased to be told the score, she'd been given a brief "call this lady and arrange a sweep for sometime in the next 2 weeks"
Terrible nights sleep here up all night, dropped off at about 5am then woke with cracking headache.

The only thing I've got planned today is the mw at lunchtime. So I'll either take ds out for a walk before or after depending on my energy levels!

At least baby is moving around now detective, that's good news.

I'm waiting for my Tesco shopping to arrive so that's my excuse for having Quality Street for breakfast. Later my nana and auntie are coming round to see baby's nursery. Then going in town to buy some dark nighties from
Primark so I can finish my hospital bag.

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 09:42:30

Oh lord! This baby is trying to burst out of my stomach! yikes.

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 09:43:33

I'd love a big tin of quality street - yum yum yum.

ShellyBobbs Mon 29-Oct-12 09:45:35

Glad all is well Detective you must have been so worried! I have had my first nights proper sleep in months and months, I can't believe it. Also despite eye rolling from the midwife, seems as though Sudocreme is the magic cream I thought it was. 1 day of proper slapping it on and the itch has all but disappeared, still very rashy though.

StuntNun Mon 29-Oct-12 09:47:21

Georgee I'm the last person to advise on DHs and lofts but our car seat had somehow gone quite mouldy (don't see how as it wasn't put away damp and nothing else up there is mouldy) so had to be taken outside to remove the covers for extensive washing. Maybe you could mention this in passing to your DH to get him moving.

I'm still feeling down so I'm taking the boys to get new shoes (conditional on them having gone up a size) and trousers (they have both shot up since the end of summer) and will treat myself to a Subway big beef melt while out. They're so yummy, basically a cheeseburger but with as much salad in as you want. I love salad but can't be arsed with it at home as the menfolk won't eat much so that will be a nice treat for me.

ShellyBobbs Mon 29-Oct-12 09:47:27

Tits Hope you get some joy today!

georgee Mon 29-Oct-12 09:51:21

Stunt thanks for the advice. Mould would be entirely possible, the amount of time that seat has been hanging around in semi-damp places. Plus, I just had to say 'Whooarrrrr!!!' for the Subway sandwich, sounds DELICIOUS ...

Crossing fingers once more for you Tits

ShellyBobbs Mon 29-Oct-12 09:52:51

Stunt Get something nice for yourself. You really need to look after yourself and not get so wound up after the time you have just had. If the very worst happens, your hubby will be running around like a blue arsed fly and your baby may have to use one of your towels and sheets for a few days, it won't notice or care Stunt. Your hubby however will be at your disposal for months and months and will have a life time of shame to live down!

ShellyBobbs Mon 29-Oct-12 09:54:34

Right, I'd better get my arse out of bed!

stunt that subway sandwich sounds sooo good, I haven't had a subway in yonks.

Iheartpasties Mon 29-Oct-12 10:09:57

Just had a crunchie! yum.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Mon 29-Oct-12 10:19:23

Glad to hear that baby seems a bit happier detective

Good luck with midwife and all the phoning tits

As for me I'm ok. Pelvis getting worse which I didnt think was possible but that's prob due to the slip last week and now weight of baby pressing down where it's already grinding. Can't see how the pain will just go after baby is born, especially as I'm hyper mobile and wanting to breastfeed so relaxin will hang about longer! I've stupidly pinned all my hopes on this daycare assessment tomorrow which is followed by antenatal clinic. Hoping that even if they won't induce me over next few days that at least they will give me a date which for my MH would be better. Something to work towards almost.

Subway sounds fab! If only they delivered. Our tesco shop came yesterday but I ordered random crap snacky things rather than food! Dextrose tablets for labour anyone!?!

Peaky1 Mon 29-Oct-12 10:23:58

Is DP nesting a sign of labour? He has just decided to defrost the freezer (something we've put off for an embarrassing length of time and defo something I would be doing, not him.) It's got to the point where I can't open most of the drawers in there shock. Aaah I've got a diamond there...and I hope I'm right about the nesting!

Today I'm going to the local shopping centre to meet NCT ladies for coffee and caaaaaake, buying witch hazel while I'm there and treating my car to a mini valet as it's a total shit heap at the min. I've not cleaned it once since I got pregnant and I used to be very particular about cleaning my car. It's quite sad how excited I am at the thought of having a sparkling car by the afternoon!

I am also still pondering and researching next car options. My lease car goes back mid December. I think buying brand-new on finance plans might be a bit too much for me but what are people's thoughts on hire purchase VS bank loan to buy a 2nd hand car?

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 10:27:34

I need a rant! Poor DP is going to have to listen to my rant when I get out of here!

I am not here to discuss my plans for labour. So kindly fuck off and leave me alone. All I wanted to know was that my baby was okay. And he is. So GRRRRRR off.

I'm just glad the cervix grabbing has resumed with gusto.

Peaky1 Mon 29-Oct-12 10:30:57

Tits I think you need to go and take Detective's place at her hospital! Just get yourself out of there as soon as you can. Surely they understand your birth plan?

kissyfur Mon 29-Oct-12 10:31:14

Hello all

stunt again I sympathise with you re: lofts and house being a tip. Sounds like you really need some 'me' time and a treat today. DP spent all of yesterday putting together our new ikea wardrobes which were unexpectedly delivered yesterday instead of today! He had help from my sis and bro in law and it took them til gone 11 last night! Needless to say as the bedroom had to be completely cleared everything is in a total mess! Also had to sleep on a mattress on the floor last night as we didn't manage to get the new bed put together, which was interesting when i needed to get up for the loo in the night.

Had to get up at about 6 this morning due to the awful hand and arm numbness, it's soo painful till the blood come back! Really tired and my cough is lingering.

Thankfully my mum us coming over to help in a bit.

Sorry for the moan! I know in the grand scheme of things I've had thing easy blush. Just 2 and a half weeks to go for me til c section date, can't wait now smile

Good luck for today Tits hope you have some success

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 10:31:24

Shelly Sudacrem has worked a treat under my itchy tit grin it hasn't gone but there is no itch!

Tits update ASAP please!!!!

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 10:35:20

Peaky has a point... Here have my bed gladly grin

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 10:53:30

Morning. Why have I woken up crabbit? I woke at 7:30 after the usual 5 or so wee trips. Just sitting on my backside but I feel I need a nap. That's pathetic.

Still desperately thirsty. Dry mouth and dry lips. Meh

Community midwife came out.

She's referred me back to day assessment with the on call consultant (not sure who it is) and CTG because I can't distinguish what is baby moving or not because of the pain.
I have to go at 1.30 with a view to hopefully moving induction forward or getting some adequate pain relief or at least a plan of action, midwife agrees that current plan is not at all acceptable but her hands are tied in regards to actually having the authority to do anything.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Mon 29-Oct-12 11:15:35

Tits that sounds encouraging in that someone is actually agreeing with you and trying to change the plan. Hope this helps your state of mind too? Let us know how you get on later. Fingers crossed for some good news for you.

apple amazing breakfast. I now need some Quality Street.

kissy good news about furniture!

kirrinIsland Mon 29-Oct-12 11:19:57

tits hopefully things will start to get better for you now.

detective glad all is well with baby, hopefully you'll get out soon.

stunt enjoy your sandwich smile

I'm supposed to be meeting a friend for lunch over an hour away, but I've cried off because I am pathetic I'm very achy and sore today and frankly, I just can't face it. DD has nursery later so I have a list of jobs to get through and then I'm going back to bed for a bit.

Oooh Stunt I had a big beef melt on Saturday (and a tuna one) It was scrummy!

I had another poo night's sleep, slept from 11pm til 12:45am and got up for gaviscon, couldn't get back to sleep so ended up downstairs watching tv at 2. Went back to bed and got some sleep at 5:30am.

Only 4 more days until i'm 37 weeks grin

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Mon 29-Oct-12 11:31:42

tits that sounds promising. As you know my consultant is against inductions in the most part yet the in call consultant was willing to induce me had I been over 37 weeks ( I was 36+6). It's unfair that depending on who you see depends on the outcome but I hope that consultat today is more sympathetic towards you and even if they cannot offer induction they can sort out some form of pain relief. I am on dihydracodeine and paracetamol yet I don't feel it's making much difference and like you am scared to take meds in case of withdrawal for baby. However I don't have as rough a time at home as you as we have downstairs loo, electric recliners and I only have one child who my family and nursery have been helping out with. I couldnt cope with what you are. Please do let us know how things go later on.

Yes they keep bringing up how I coped in this situation when pregnant with DS2, I have explained that back the I had my bedroom/bathroom/toilet and kitchen all downstairs, I was also living with my mother and only had 1 DC to look after, very different from now.

The thing with the pain relief that has truly angered and upset me was the fact that every single doctor said unconditionally Tramadol was NOT to be used at this stage of pregnancy, even my usual consultant, then after me saying that if I was bring sent home I needed something (allergic to all forms if codine) she just shrugged and said to take the risk with codine and hope baby doesn't come for a couple more weeks! I was shock and very angry that the information I've received has been so vastly different.
They will only offer Tramadol or paracetamol at home, Oramorph apparently isn't allowed to be given in an out patient setting (even though I spent a year on it last year at home but appreciate pregnancy changes things) but I WILL NOT allow my baby to go through a drug withdrawal process in his first few days of life, having fostered babies in similar position I know how horrid this is to watch let alone to actually go through for the baby!

Fingers crossed I get something sorted soon.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Mon 29-Oct-12 12:06:11

It is odd re the oramorph. I was told by one GP that if the codeine didn't work then she would prescribe me morphine. Yet when I returned for appointment to discuss the GP that I saw that day wouldn't even consider it, he insisted that he couldn't prescribe it in an outpatient setting and said that I could have dihydracodeine and paracetamol so codyrdramol or be admitted. One rule for one and a different for the other it seems. Again the same with those two consultants I have encountered.

I understand your thinking regarding withdrawals, that is another of my concerns with the dihydracodeine but no one has actually mentioned it being a problem?!?

Chunkychicken Mon 29-Oct-12 12:28:57

I really hope u get some action on your behalf today Tits. It seems barbaric to me to let someone suffer in agony because its a problem due to pregnancy. If only bloody men had babies....

Loving the libary walking distance from us. Close enough for DD to easily walk, lots of books for DD to choose from and they rent DVDs. So I have 'He's just not that into you' to watch during nap time grin

capedcrusader25 Mon 29-Oct-12 13:08:00

Hi all, just to let you know Baby Caped was born this morning at 9:35am weighing 7lb 3oz (for 3 weeks early not a bad weight!). Had a c-section due to breech and lack of fluid. We're both great, she's beautiful and I can't wait to be properly up and about!

SwissArmyWife Mon 29-Oct-12 13:10:44

Ha! If men had babies we'd be extinct in no time!
My DP was complaining about a spot he found on one of his balls the other day. I nearly laughed in his face.
I do love him, honest

Oh tits all the best for today, I really hope they can sort something out for you.

Has anyone else been a massive grump recently? I can't seem to shake this short temper, it's horrible. I just want to crawl in to bed and not have to move until the baby arrives! It must be hormones as I'm usually rather calm.

This thread is so quiet now isn't it!

SwissArmyWife Mon 29-Oct-12 13:12:07

caped! Congratulations! Great weight for three weeks early, hope you are both doing well smile

Chunkychicken Mon 29-Oct-12 13:25:15

Congratulations Caped. All the best.

kirrinIsland Mon 29-Oct-12 13:28:50

Congratulations caped great weight - more than DD was at term! Hope you are both doing well smile

georgee Mon 29-Oct-12 13:36:54

Fab news caped and yes, what a fab weight! Congratulations!

Congrats caped! Did you go into spontaneous labour or was it a planned c sec?

Mw said baby's head is engaged which is unusual for a second preg but I'm not complaining! BHs have got a lot stronger too, nothing for two weeks now when I see the consultant again to discuss birth options.

Catbag Mon 29-Oct-12 14:05:23

Congratulations caped! Fantastic weight- does she have a name yet?

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 14:12:20

hooray caped. brilliant news!

StuntNun Mon 29-Oct-12 14:20:58

Congratulations Caped can't wait to hear the name when you've decided.

Big beef melt lived up to expectations grin but DS1 is being a right little sh1t today and DS2 ain't much better. So much for a nice half-term with the boys angry

Chunkychicken Mon 29-Oct-12 14:45:26

Just had a phonecall from the MW tat came to us yesterday to deliver the home delivery pack. She is concerned about the "steady drop" in my platelets and has made me an appointment with the consultant tomorrow. She says that she just wants the consultant to 'clear me' for the HB. It was a bad line so I didn't ask any questions, but my usual MW led me to believe that the levels were within a normal range and my platelets started out low anyway. Clearly, platelets are essential for clotting but I don't understand why they would be dropping. I also don't see what a consultant can say about it - either they're low enough to need treatment or they're not??!! Obviously I understand that being less able to clot myself might present a greater danger at home than in hospital but if they're that bad, surely the MW should be able to judge that. So much for a nice, straight forward, calm delivery this time around!!! sad

Elizadoesdolittle Mon 29-Oct-12 15:11:01

Yay congratulations caped. Enjoy your newborn snuggles.

Can't believe how many of these supposedly November babies are being born in October. I'm 38 weeks today. Ideally this baby needs to stay out for another week as DH can't get out of going to work this week. But in reality I'm ready and willing for it to come anytime. I'll have plenty of other people around to help me.

Can't remember who said about being grumpy but that's me all over. And I had a good nights sleep and a lay in this morning so really don't have any excuse. DD is still recovering from the tiring weekend so is bring grumpy and wingey which isn't helping. I've stuck peppa pig on and come upstairs for a 15 mins lay down. I don't normally just leave her to it but I feel today that I need to for my sanity's sake. We did spend the morning in the park with my friend and her daughter who is the same age as my DD. she is due the day before me too so we both had a moan about the general state of being heavily pregnant. Although after reading what some of you are going through, especially tits I really have no right to complain.

I've been admitted for morphine, it's apparently only my consultant that can make the call to move the induction and shockingly hmm she is away until Wed earliest but at least it will be more comfortable.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Mon 29-Oct-12 15:34:28

Oh tits that's ridiculous surely any consultant could make that decision! At least the morphine may provide some relief of the pain, even if it takes a little of it I know that would make you feel a bit better. How long do they plan on keeping you in??

The consultant on call 'isn't willing to go above the senior consultant at this point' I was told, she however offered the choice of an emergency appointment on Wed with my consultant and to go home as I am or if the midwife felt it needed they could at this point offer admission back to the ward with morphine which will force a twice daily consultant review. I read this as passing the buck to the next on call consultant but at least I can have a slight let up of the pain. I'm not sure how long they'll let me stay here I'd they'll keep me until Wed then make me see my consultant who doesn't care or if they'll see the fact that its got to this level and just do the induction sooner.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Mon 29-Oct-12 16:10:12

I don't know what to say tits. Hopefully they keep you in and on morphine until someone gets their act together and induces you. If you are taking up a bed then I see no reason for them not to be inducing you as you will still be on the ward until 4-5cm dilated anyway surely? That way baby arrives and even if pain doesn't go straight away you have the option if restarting the tramadol.

It's such a nightmare and is making me really concerned that I've gotten my hopes up about my daycare and antenatal appointments tomorrow and that I too am going to end up in the same situation with my own consultant refusing yet others saying they would induce.

Chunkychicken Mon 29-Oct-12 16:13:54

At least you'll get some pain relief and hopefully a more sympathetic consultant at the next assessment Tits.

My back aches despite laying comfortably on my sofa. I am desperately trying not to read anything into it, given the homebirth issue is a bit up in the air!!! Contrary baby...

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 16:14:11

tits every day brings a different story! I so hope that the morphing gives you some relief and that you can get an answer soon.

I am just having a wee seat, cup of tea and a Crunchie. Who is it keeps mentioning eating crunchies? Whoever it is - you sparked a craving!

I popped wandelled up the the shops for some sausages for tea and found myself Braxton hixing all the way around. I noticed a lady standing with twin girls, a baby of about 12 months and the lady was 7 months pregnant (I am not just amazing at guessing - she very loudly told a member of staff that her due date was 9 weeks today. Anyway, once she had said this she mentioned that her next baby was another girl. The member of staff exclaimed "oh no!" Really? "Oh no" is that okay to say to people? I actually spun round to look because I was so cross. The pregnant lady looked fine with it but I was bloody furious.


Funny how quiet this thread has become. I wonder how many more we will need before we are all done?

I've eaten two crunchies since reading about it on here, I seem to crave them now too!!

I've just been to collect my mamas and papas baby swing I bought off my local Facebook selling site, got it for £30! Going to give it a wash in the washing machine but only because I'm picky and want it to smell like our laundry detergent!
Been having strong BHs on and off all afternoon, 37 weeks tomorrow you can come whenever you like little bubba!

Lane81 Mon 29-Oct-12 16:24:44

Congratulations Caped!

I too have been eating lots of crunchies since someone mentioned them on here!

Chunkychicken Mon 29-Oct-12 16:25:13

That's terrible Pass. I can't imagine feeling anything but love for my 2nd baby, girl or boy, despite having a DD already and if anyone suggested otherwise, I would be furious too!!

It is VERY quiet. Hope Detective managed to leave the hospital ok...

kissyfur Mon 29-Oct-12 16:27:26

I just had a crunchie too! But it was only a fun size one and now I want more smile

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 16:34:22

Good chunky I am glad it wasn't just me. It seemed very strange in front of all these lovely children.

My Crunchie was delicious. I now feel a bit sicky though. Need to start preparing tea and the thought is making me squeamish.

Maybe I should actually do some things so I can write about them and be interesting.

Today my diary would read:
7:30 woke up to Dh emptying dishwasher
7:55 gave up trying to sleep and had coffee in bed with DH
10:00 actually got arse out of bed having been playing with phone and listening to the radio.
11:45 had an hour nap
1pm had lunch
3pm wandelled to supermarket
4:30 recounted day thus far

Christ on a bike I have to achieve more than this. The irritating thing is I haven't enjoyed lying about doing naff all. I feel grumpy and on the wage of weepy again. Can't be arsed with 3 more weeks of this. I need to sort myself out and actually enjoy lying around doing naff all - plenty of people would eat my fingers to be doing naff all.

Where is MM today? I think we should have a daily register. I forget who is still pregnant - feels like we are in the minority!

pikz Mon 29-Oct-12 16:41:25

I feel that way too pass. I think I might be one of the few in for the long haul!

Congrats capers and I hope tits and detective are getting the care they need.
Been Xmas shopping most of day people seem to think I'm crackers doing it 3 weeks from due date but I need to stay active or I'm goings go insane.

kirrinIsland Mon 29-Oct-12 16:47:33

That's a horrid thing to say pass I would have been cross too. I am delighted to be having another girl.

mm has been quiet today hasn't she? I think we have reached the stage where no- one can have a few hours away from the computer without the rest of us assuming they're in labour!!

I too am achy and weepy today, and for no real reason. I don't feel like I've achieved anything today, despite DD being in nursery. I know I've got a good excuse to laze around but there are some things that need to be done before the baby arrives or they won't get done at all!

Oh, and I now really fancy a chrunchie thanks to you lot - despite eating my own considerable body weight in sugar over the last couple of days. Sugar cravings are a sure sign of impending labour right? Right?

WaitingForMe Mon 29-Oct-12 16:53:15

I'm feeling fed up today Pass. I'm only 37+4 but literally can't do anything and feel utterly drained. Sat on the sofa watching TV and feeling my brain cells melt. I feel trapped in the house as PGP limits how much I can walk without pain and I don't want to drive as BHs are so sudden and painful. I can't wait for DH to get home but don't want to be needy as soon as he gets through the door.

I really can't see how a newborn could be tougher than this. I already barely sleep and PGP is meant to go away after birth so I could walk into town with the pram.

It seems like everyone else has their baby sad

And this is why I hadn't posted.

Does anyone know (although an entirely unimportant question at this point) when being induced is it essential to break waters? If they could get me into labour with a sweep and just the gel and drip would they be willing? The only 1 thing I didn't want for labour was my waters broken, obviously in my current position if its a deal breaker then of course they can do what they want or need to but I'm not sure if there are rules that need I be followed?

shanelle5 Mon 29-Oct-12 16:55:22

Im still here! (MN being my lifeline atm blush
MW appointment went well - am due wednesday. Measuring 38 cm which is odd as I feel H-U-G-E but BP, wee and HB were all fine and he is only 2/5 palpable so head nicely down.
Other than the position of bubba which is back to back I was happy with how it went, she is booked in to come over again next week Wednesday at 41 weeks to do first sweep confused and talk induction already! She said they only like to leave you 12 das over which isnt much, I argued that I would be happy to leave it 14 as is standard but we shall see. Just a rambly nothing muc post really, but wanted to say Hi and that I am here snooping reading posts (congrats to caped and hope the morphine helps tits

shanelle5 Mon 29-Oct-12 17:00:38

Apologies for the awful spelling/gramma, I am literate really! blush
Dont know the answer to that tits, when I was induced with DD 3 I had my waters broken first then a drip after a few hours.
Hopefully detective will come along soon to advise and keep us all entertained

kissyfur Mon 29-Oct-12 17:04:15

Oh congrats caped! glad you are enjoying newborn snuggles grin hope you feel more mobile soon

My living room is spotless! I'm easily pleased smile Hopefully it will stay this way for a while. Yesterdat we cleared out all the kitchen cupboards and gave them a proper cleaning. Ultimate nesting. Plan is to do the bedroom tomorrow and the bathroom re-siliconing at the weekend then the house is ready for baby.

The toilet was making some horrible noises this lunchtime, I was seriously scared, thought it was going to explode. Turns out there's been a water leak up the road as there's now a hole in the road. Fair enough but we haven't been informed. The cold water is coming out white and the toilet makes a horrible noise when flushed and refills with brown water. I'm now trying not to use any water in case it runs out.

Congratulations Caped thanks

Hope the morphine helps tits

Does anyone know anything about suitcases? MIL has asked for a light weight one for christmas so i've been googling and think she has slightly high expectations of how light weight you can get for a reasonable price smile

<sigh> how is this possible? I had a urine sample dipsticked at home at 10am with a trace of protein, just done one now on the ward and it is brimming with erm well everything they dipstick for hmm

<drug trolley is here now so I'll probably snooze in a little morphine bubble for a whole€

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 17:12:09

Hmm sorry tits I have no idea about that. Somebody should blow the detective whistle. She would know.

The moods must be hormonal - ya reckon? Tomorrow I reckon I will feel fine.

I have parenting class tonight - "feeding options"

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 17:20:43

shanelle I admire you saying you don't mind leaving it. My goodness I reckon if a midwife called me now and said "how d'ya fancy popping it out now?" I would waddle there as fast as my wee legs could carry me. I am 39 weeks this week.

Patience, passme, patience.

Sorry, fatima I know nothing about suitcases either. If anyone would like advice on Stropping around and making flapjack then I am your woman!

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Mon 29-Oct-12 17:23:50

tits I have no idea about why urine would change so quickly unless maybe first test was past expiry date or something.

Wrt the induction query I'm not sure either. When I was induced with DD I had 3 pessaries, then they ruptured membranes and hooked me to drip at the same time. Looking back this seems unnecessary as the ruptured membranes should surely have hurried things anyway and I don't think there was a need to start drip asap. Is there a reason you would rather membranes kept in tact? <nosy>

Pass Mmmm flapjack, I was tempted to make some today. What recipe do you use?

It's probably a silly thing Izzy but when I was induced with DS1 I coped fine until they broke my waters then suddenly the contractions were unbearable very quickly.
When I had DS2 I laboured spontaneously and made a point of saying that at no point should they break my waters, I felt next to nothing at all for the whole first stage, then when I had to start pushing and the waters went by themselves again the pain was suddenly unbearable so I've got it into my head that ruptured membranes = more pain! Since I labour quickly anyway I wonder if it will be necessary to do this time.

I'll have that flapjack recipe too please! Just spent the past 45 mins making shepherds pie, it's finishing off in the oven now can't wait to eat it.

Can really feel her head low down now, still getting BHs a lot but mainly when I'm sitting around doing nothing!

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Mon 29-Oct-12 17:57:04

Ah I see, makes sense I suppose. It's the drip that scares me about induction as I equate that to the pain ramping up, they kept turning the bloody thing up and I don't think it was necessary to turn it up. I had a quick labour too, from breaking waters to birth was 5 hours and I had no distinguishable gap between them which made timing gas and air difficult. My DH would watch the monitor and tell me when to use it and he would press boost on my tens at same time smile I couldn't have managed without him.

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 18:07:00

The flap jack recipe I used was from BBC Good Food - apricot and pecan. I changed it though. I make double (put most in the freezer) and swapped the pecans for mixed nuts, seeds and berries from Aldi. Makes it more like meausli bars. Om nom

MissMummy1 Mon 29-Oct-12 18:09:10

Fear not ladies, I'm still pregnant!

Had a busy day. Decided my inlaws aren't all bad. They've chilled out greatly since they got here and spending time with them has helped me learn a lot about some of DH's 'erratic behaviour'. They're also bloody excellent at amusing themselves and their desire to eat out lots is allowing me to indulge in lots of calories and lovely food!! (Breastfeeding reserves...)

Their dog is lovely too. I want to keep her. She's a tiny little collie. Looks like a fox, size of a young puppy but she turned 1 last week. She's just the most adorable little thing!! I'm now broody for another puppy, although having spet the past few months being sensible and telling DH to wait till next Summer, I really must heed my own advice.

Last ante-natal class this afternoon. A woman who we'd been quite friendly with the whole way through's waters broke on her way to the class! She's due 3 days after me shock!!

Congrats to caped - saw the photo on fb, she's beautiful!!

FC drugs make things easier for you tits - the treatment you have received so far has been nothing short of abysmal. I'm another one very angry on your behalf!

MissMummy1 Mon 29-Oct-12 18:09:58

Oh and MIL has bought us a Medala (sp?) electric breast pump. grin

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 18:10:35

Tonight at the parenting class I am going to ask the following:

What the difference is between ventouse and forceps?
How they actually induce labour? At what stage do they induce? Can they do it without breaking waters?
Em, what else was I wondering about?

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 18:12:32

Hia mm I was starting to wonder if you had gone into in-law induced labour!

Puppy sounds adorable.

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 18:13:35

And from what I know ( which is shite all) the Medela Swing is the Mercedes of breast pumpage.

MissMummy1 Mon 29-Oct-12 18:14:51

Haha pass - it was a close call over the weekend. My control freak stress levels were through the roof! I packed them off into Edinburgh for the day today. In small doses they are lovely, if a little full on!

Will try and post a pic of pup in fb group. I'm more of a gun-dog girl personally, but she is beautiful!

ShellyBobbs Mon 29-Oct-12 18:20:53

Congratulations Caped Another little baby!

Tits At least you're in drug heaven, it's one less thing to worry about, let that keep you going until Wednesday and we'll all keep our fingers crossed for you.

Just looked at my arse, what's the line in-between bum cheeks all about? Mine goes right up the crack from top to bottom, does that mean I'm in full labour then grin

Hope everyone is keeping OK, I had the rat bag moods last week, but am feeling much better today.

Congrats caped She looks beautiful smile

Yes it does feel like the pregnant ladies are in the minority now. Every time I check the thread another one of you has popped. I'll probably be the last one standing.

MM I want another puppy as well. Apart from the sofa eating incident my Lab has really calmed down a lot in the last few months and I think it would be nice for him to have a little friend. Like you we have been talking about getting another maybe next summer. Let's get baby here first then see how things are. DP wants a Jack Russell or a Spaniel.

Now off out for my antenatal class. Final one next week!

Passmethecrisps Mon 29-Oct-12 18:47:04

shelly I couldn't work out this line malarkey either. I have a line where my cheeks rub together because I have a childbearing arse!

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 19:04:16

Detective Entertainment Service, at your, um service Shanelle grin

Eeeeeh. Home sweet home. All fine except I'm quite sure my BP is somewhere in the heavens scan was fine, I am growing an APPROPRIATE sized baby! As the sonographer pointed out grin. Est. weight 6lb11 (3kg) today, and I am 39+2. So that is FINE! I feel more positive now to be honest, as I feel that I am growing a baby that I have a good chance of giving birth to, as opposed to DS who for whatever reason was an almighty struggle. CTG's were all perfect today. So grin. Movements completely back to normal, so I'm quite sure yesterday was 'one of those things'.

I was home hours ago btw, I have just been sleeping, due to only getting 2 hours last night! Sorry grin

Tits Induction process goes something like this - assess cervix using something called a Bishops Score. The higher the number the better the chance of successful induction, and the type of induction agent used will depend on the score (and the protocol at the hospital). Typically a Bishops Score of 6-7 or under would require an induction agent, ie: gel or pessary. Above that then it is possible to break waters usually. The main aim of the gel/pessary is to get the cervix to either labour itself, or be ripe enough to break waters and then use the hormone drip should the breaking of membranes not be enough to get labour going. Usual procedure is to wait for 2 hours after breaking waters before starting hormone drip if regular contractions don't commence.

So, in answer to your question - it is quite possible that the only way to induce your labour would be to break your waters. It is potentially dangerous and not usual practice to use the drip without waters being broken. Occasionally you think you have broken the waters and then put the drip up to find later down the line that the membranes are still present around babies head. This isn't ideal though, and at the point you realised this, you would need to break them.

It sounds as if your ideal induction would be a Bishops Score of 5/6, have a gel or pessary, which encourages contractions and makes your dilate, and then spontaneously rupture your membranes as you are pushing! It could go that way - some times they do! But there is no guarantee as it all depends on your cervix! Basically, you are much more likely to need them broken in an induction process. You are right in saying that after having them broken the pain is more intense - the head is no longer cushioned against the cervix, thus the pain feels increased. However it has been proven in research to speed up labour - so pain for longer vs. increased intensity in pain but shorter labour.

Disclaimer: I'm tired, so some of this may not make sense! And I have baby brain!

blonderthanred Mon 29-Oct-12 19:05:30

For my induction last week I specified in my Birth Preferences that I didn't want my waters broken artificially if the pessaries etc were working. I think once they break the waters they add the drip in to reduce chance of infection, although you can ask them to give it a chance to work alone, I think I would have had an hour or so after the waters.

It turned out to be a moot point as the pessaries etc didn't even bring my cervix forward enough to try and break the waters. But you can certainly request that at each stage you are given the chance to progress further naturally.

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 19:07:34

Tits Some times it is just the sample - I had a UTI, I felt I had one - did a dipstick, all the indicators were there. But then the next day the sample I did for the midwife showed nothing. She sent the sample off any way as I was symptomatic. And it came back with a confirmed UTI.

I did my own dipstick when she went, and there wasn't anything in it either!

I can't explain!

Although did the midwife this morning use the full dipstick, or just one which looks for protein and glucose?

Peaky1 Mon 29-Oct-12 19:12:32

Pass and Shelly I just found this website that seemed to explain quite a few things about measuring labour including the purple butt line! The way I understand it now is that maybe the purple line is a lot thicker in labour, perhaps.


blonderthanred Mon 29-Oct-12 19:14:21

Detective put it much better!

Also congratulations Caped on your lovely new baby. I'm sure you will soon be back on your feet but make sure you take care of yourself too so you can enjoy it all the more (I am trying to follow this advice myself!)

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 19:16:23

Congratulations Caped she is gorgeous!! smile

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 19:19:00

I have the death farts blush OMG, its horrific! The dog ran away! She loves the smell of shit grin.

<Retreats to corner of room>

I want a puppy too grin Next door but one has two gorgeous dogs that I love to go out and see, our back gardens join on so they come for a stroke. I'll pop a pic on the FB group

kirrinIsland Mon 29-Oct-12 19:31:50

tits I agree about the waters thing. Mine were broken in hospital and the pain levels went through the roof immediately.

MM glad to see you're still with us!

Any one broody for a puppy - I have a cocker spaniel you can have! She'll wake you up at 6 whining for food, thieves anything she can lay her paws on and is spectacularly good at barking at nothing. Apart from that, she's great! I love her really

georgee Mon 29-Oct-12 19:39:57

Well Detective you simply can't have your baby any time soon because what would we do without you on the thread? I was induced last time and may be again and it's so good to hear a bit of professional expertise on the matter! So glad all is well. Seriously, do go into labour when you want. smile

My farts are also deathly today - more sulphur/eggy than anything. Another reason to feel sorry for DD, having to put up with that all day! We did make it to Asda though and she quite enjoyed that and I enjoyed filling my basket with filthy food such as cheese puffs.

Going back a few pages - flabbergasted at that girl/boy conversation you heard today Pass. Why do people feel they can make such comments? Makes my blood boil.

Right, chips for tea and West Wing box set! smile

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 19:44:27

Yes, eggy farts is what I have sad The shame!!

I'll still be hanging round like a bad eggy fart smell, so don't worry! I'm not planning on leaving the house for a couple of days after, I have my baby moon planned! And I know I will end up on MN while feeding, etc!!

I wouldn't say expertise, more observational lol grin

georgee Mon 29-Oct-12 19:51:46

Hurrah for that Detective (the hanging around. The farts not so much).

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 19:54:02

Baked potatoes for me again! I'm having 2 this time as I requested when DP went to the shop earlier - one just wasn't enough last time! DP is having the grand total of 0. Because he bought a bag of baked potatoes (we never buy bags of them, always loose ones to get the biggest ones!) which contained precisely 2 regular sized spuds, and a whole load of tiny ones. So I am having 2 averaged sized spuds hmm DS having 2 tiny ones, and DP is having 'something else'.

Seriously dunno why he got them, I looked in despair at the bag wondering how I was meant to make tea out of them! I mean fair enough if the baked potatoes were to go along side something else substantial. But they aren't! The potatoes are the kind of size you would peel for some mash! Maybe I'll be nice and make him some mash and cheesy beans.... hmm.

I feel bad now though blush. DP has finally got round to having his headlight bulb changed after last nights fiasco, and managed to change the living room and dining room light bulb at the first request today! We have progress! Maybe I should let him have a potato! But I don't want to share!!!!!

I am letting him back in bed again tonight grin. Is it wrong that I really don't want to have sex?! DP said if it was Robert Pattinson, I would - but it isn't true! I don't want sex with anyone! The thought makes me feel queasy! I contemplated getting him to provide a sample and turkey basting it up there, while sniffing clary sage and bouncing on the ball grin. Seems the next best thing, no?!

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Mon 29-Oct-12 20:15:51

The induction process you describe is exactly what I thought was meant to happen detective yet I was out on drip immediately post waters being ruptured sad annoying!

Still hoping for an induction date tomorrow. Going to be massively gutted if I'm left another week in limbo.

<sigh> morphine is not all its cracked up to be, but the pain is at least slightly numbed, I've just watched the lady opposite be brought in, given the gel and told it will be at least 4 hrs until anything even begins to happen, within 2 hrs she's been whipped back to labour ward with really strong contractions, brings back memories of DS1's birth!

I have had savage wind since being pregnant, luckily DP isn't at all precious about these things otherwise I think we'd have been over before we properly began!

I stocked the freezer up with £1 mcCain microwave jackets with the last shop so I can see them all at home living off spuds with beans and cheese for a few days, there might be a token cucumber on the side to appease me should I ask grin

I'm going to have to do something amazing for DP after all this, he's been a star... My ex (boys dad) would have fallen apart now and walked out claiming the stress was too much (reason 1,0000546 he is an ex)

I'm really hoping to make the most of Netflix in here, anyone got any recommendations for a good box set?

MissMummy1 Mon 29-Oct-12 20:21:08

Detective I've felt that way for the last 8 months. Now I REALLY want it! And he doesn't.... sad Might just jump him tonight seeing as he has no choice but to share a bed with me when we have visitors (a rare novelty sleeping in the same room let alone bed!) grin

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 20:22:35

Sometimes that can be the case. It depends on the Registrar making the decision re: management.

Often in cases where the drip is started straight away it is because of other concerns. Ie: CTG trace not brilliant/concerns with fetal or maternal obs, cervix very unfavourable and ARM only just achieved. Or anticipating that ARM alone isn't going to achieve much, and to wait to start the drip would prolong the process.

Have to say most times you wait, maybe 10% of times you start the drip after the ARM, usually for the above reasons, and at direction of the Reg! You can always decline of course grin

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 20:27:14

MM I have a very willing participant here - free to good any home grin

Does anyone else's baby camp out so far to one side that it makes their bump look odd, mine bump is almost flat (non existent) on the left but jutted out dramatically on the right, always has been, none of this beautiful rounded bumpiness for me, I wonder if my left side is substandard to this little one? grin

Sophiathesnowfairy Mon 29-Oct-12 20:45:34

Knackered after long walk in woods, kids did me proud stunt, and an afternoon filled with craft, a toddler bunching off the walls and a mummy that just want to lie on the sofa!

As far as my purple line is concerned I am fully dilatedconfused

I am ignoring anything that feels like a contraction. But am so busy this week anyway I do 't think I notice it till bedtime. Now there's loads!

Sophiathesnowfairy Mon 29-Oct-12 20:46:44

Mine does that tits, then it goes all wobbly and the baby disappears out of sight!

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 20:55:11

Stick a fork in me, I'm done! Oh god I can't move I am so stuffed with spuds grin

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 21:17:41

OH GOD! I'm breathing through my BH's because I am so full they hurt hahahaha!!!

Self inflicted pain! D'oh!

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 21:19:21

You buggers are killing me with the animal pictures!


MissMummy1 Mon 29-Oct-12 21:22:49

You can have Bailey. Him and DH have a love-hate relationship: the dog adores making his life hell him whilst he can't stand the dog! Namely because or an incident involving a cup of coffee and a brand new laptop last year!!

TheDetective Mon 29-Oct-12 21:25:06