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The Broadly Gemini Luxury Bus

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Thundernonk Sat 20-Oct-12 16:57:27

Formally known as EDD late May/Early June etc etc bus, jump on here for tmi, moaning mutual support and free smoothies.

Oooh new Fred. Yay! grin

And HERE is the link to our old Fred. grin

Thundernonk Sat 20-Oct-12 17:30:13


<flumps down on big beanbag and puts a film on, whilst sipping on alcohol free piña colada>

merrygiant Sat 20-Oct-12 17:36:51

Afternoon ladies, I like the shiny new thread/bus. Can we have someone doing nice foot massages on the top floor, perhaps with tinkly music and joss-sticks?

I've just got back from work to the joy of helping OH with his tax return. I think I'm quite disorganised but blimey, he's even worse. And being a technophobe doesn't help when everything is on-bloody-line these days, grrrrr.

Still, only an hour til I can put my feet up infront of Strictly. Anyone else a fan?

Nice to meet you Mrs and Kitty, welcome back from your travels - oh for a holiday somewhere exotic...

Thundernonk Sat 20-Oct-12 17:41:41

Hi merry, wow your Saturday does not sound fun.

Yeah good idea for a whole alternative therapy/ massage part to the bus. I will be watching strictly but not sure I'm exactly a fan more just reluctant to move my arse

I'll be watching the end of it, but only coz merlin is on after.

merrygiant Sat 20-Oct-12 17:44:03

He's the technophobe btw, not me.
Although I think when I first started on mn I may have replied to posters on the wrong thread IYKWIM. Novice.

peardrop2 Sat 20-Oct-12 17:55:14

Hello bus nutters grin wave wave! Hellloooo MrsB...nice to have you on here! I've managed to wean myself off all the other threads now so you crazy bunch are stuck with me :-)

Hi kitty glad to hear you had a nice time! Frus does pregnancy go quicker when you already have dc? It must be nice to have the distraction! I've managed to forget about pregnancy for a whole 8 hours while I had my two best friends for lunch. I made homemade chicken salad and chocolate brownies! I don't how I got through not telling them...I think one has already caught on as I offered appletizer instead of wine :-/ and she was telling us how she knew about another friend who has recently announced...oh well. She did say that she didn't have any ms when she was pregnant so that has made me feel a bit better about myself! I wanted to ask her about other symptoms but I thought that might be a giveaway! Anyway I won't see her until December now which feels like ages away!!

Whoever said they've got the in-laws over good luck! I've got the in laws over next weekend eeeekkkk!!! We don't even have a bed for them to sleep on :-/

peardrop2 Sat 20-Oct-12 17:58:32

Forgot to say I gave everyone PG tips decaf tea...hah hah :-) we've put it all in one jar so there are no suspicions! You really can't tell the difference...well I can't anyway!

Hehe novice. wink I am cream-crackered after walking the dog, <heads to top floor for foot-massage->
Yummy to eat tea without fear of being sick.

Thundernonk Sat 20-Oct-12 18:00:32

Hey pear, good to see you found the new bus, and you're brave enough to face the craziness! Got any brownies left over? Your lunch sounds absolutely amazing!

Not having a spare bed sounds like a great way to discourage in-laws from staying. If that would be a good thing of course...

In laws to stay. Eek. Glad mine live 5 minutes down the road so no chance of staying over. knew it had its benefits

pear I'd like to say it goes quicker, unfortunately it doesn't, and I've still got 32 weeks to go.

peardrop2 Sat 20-Oct-12 18:22:57

Thunder sadly they are bringing their blow up bed :-( They've asked if they can stay in January for a week too. I'm slightly shocked as we've only been married for 6 months...don't really fancy guests in laws for a week!!! Plus it would probably mean they would be here New Years and the week we have the 20 week scan. DH is going to have to say nooooo! His father is a bit controlling though so it's going to be sticky!!!

Thundernonk Sat 20-Oct-12 18:26:55

Do they know your extremely exciting news, pear or are you going to have to try and be subtle on top of it all?

peardrop2 Sat 20-Oct-12 18:31:24

Sadly we're going to have to tell them are extremely exciting news! They retired when we got married weird coincidence and not accidental at all and have been travelling the world since. They're back for next weekend and then we won't see them again until Christmas when all the world will know. I'm a little annoyed that we have to share the news early but I'm also really intrigued to see their reaction because ML hinted last year that they will stop travelling in two years so that we they're available for baby sitting duties. Yep that's right, they think they've got the reins big fat not!! Hah hah hah!

My in laws aren't too bad. As for baby sitting duties I've just palmed dc1 off to them. gonna be hard not telling them until 12wks as I'm so obviously pg, despite tunic tops as waterfall cardies which I wear anyway and I'm sure sil knows, or at least has a suspicion but is too polite to say anything.
pear do you think they'll stop travelling early?

peardrop2 Sat 20-Oct-12 19:31:05

Frus yes I think they will stop travelling abroad and maybe tour UK instead. I'm not close to them at all because they never make any effort. Never had me over for dinner in the 8 years we've been together which I find a bit odd considering my mum has cooked for DH loads. I think my ML thinks I'm going to carry on working and she will be one of those stand in grandmothers...she couldn't me more wrong as I've waited too long for this to rush back to work grin DH is only child so I have absolutely no idea how they will be lol

Only time will tell as they say pear I do hope for your sake that it is barable.

Well it's safe to say that my tablets only work for 24hrs. But a relief to know that I can take another and it all goes away. Must make a note to take them at a certain time.

MrsBri Sat 20-Oct-12 21:31:59

My in laws are hideous...neither they nor any of DH's family came to the wedding.

Sadly, they are 5 mins away, and my parents 3 hours :-/

But, with their other grandchild being born in February - in New Zealand - I'm wondering what reaction our child will get.

I've not spoken to his family since last December and have no intention of ever speaking to the majority of them again either. Fun times ahead. Not.

So, be grateful if you can tolerate your in laws, as you could have mine!!

Thundernonk Sat 20-Oct-12 21:47:01

ARG, two Fred confusion! Nearly replied on t'other one but decided to cut and paste it here even though it refers to conversation on the other one

ARG sorry the sickness is back, frus, not good at all.

My mum's a Gemini twin. The other twins in the generation above weren't though as far as I know.

I still think there's a chance we're all having twins, or at least Geminis. grin

I'm hoping it goes away too thund obviously I can't wait until half term and I can have a proper lion (lie-in). can't do lions if DH goes to work at 7. As DCs are usually up by them. I think someone forgot to tell them what weekends were for.

That'll be interesting to see how they react to a GC they can in theory see regularly.

MrsBri Sat 20-Oct-12 22:18:02

Yeah...especially as I'm not inclined to let them. I think not going to your son's wedding removes your right to have contact with your subsequent GC.

Am I a total bitch?

Fx for lots of lions for you :-)

peardrop2 Sat 20-Oct-12 22:24:31

Gosh Nicola you're totally right...I don't have it as bad as sometimes I think I do :-/ even though there were moments were they acted very badly during our engagement but it could have been worse like your situation.

I can confirm that I'm not having a twin! DH asked the sonographer and she said definitely just the one much to his relief!

Thundernonk Sat 20-Oct-12 22:28:15

WHAT?! Are you saying that DCs don't respect weekend lions? Hang on a cotton picking second here.....

I don't think you sound like a bitch, nic, sounds like there's some horrible situation going on there. Did you invite them to the wedding?

pear, sounds like quite a strange situation with your in-laws too. By the sound of it they will be very pleased with your news then seeing as they seem to be planning their retirement around it!

MrsBri Sat 20-Oct-12 22:29:27

Maybe one of us will have 3 to make up for your 1!!!! (Not me, please!)

I am struggling to even consider seeing his family again. This could get traumatic :-(

peardrop2 Sat 20-Oct-12 22:29:48

Anyone else feeling a little less tired? I don't know whether it was the distraction or the hype of baking but I've not wanted my usual afternoon nap and I'm still up at 10:30pm??! Has tiredness gone? Oooooh and I've noticed the big blue veins around my tummy now, anyone else got them yet? I think my book said something about them arriving because of the blood or oxygen going to baby can't remember exact facts

peardrop2 Sat 20-Oct-12 22:31:00

Thunder who knows! I'll let you know their reaction next weekend ;-)

MrsBri Sat 20-Oct-12 22:31:32

Yes, I invited them for DH's sake, not because I wanted them there. They all declined. As did all his friends (or they ignored the invite) bar 1.


I'm wondering how to train my DC about lions now :-)

Thundernonk Sat 20-Oct-12 22:31:52

I felt a bit less tired yesterday and was over the moon as I thought that was all behind me. Unfortunately it's back with a vengeance today and I feel like shit

MrsBri Sat 20-Oct-12 22:34:21

I'm concerned that my tiredness comes and goes...my boobs, however, have gone from mildly painful when pressed on the outside, to OH MY GOD, GET OFF MY BOOBS! Interesting!

Maybe a reaction to my non-gentle exercise earlier. (DH remains unforgiven, even though the view from behind the waterfall was epic!)

Thundernonk Sat 20-Oct-12 22:37:08

That's what my tiredness did in the early days. And then the goes went. If you see what I mean.

My dog punched me in the nipple earlier. Yes ow.

They do sound like fuckers. Poor DH.

MrsBri Sat 20-Oct-12 22:42:29

I do...I'll 'look forward' to that. I suppose going back to work will be the test.

I hope you punched the dog back?! (Not really, BTW, before I get blacklisted for animal cruelty!)

And I know...I feel so sorry for him. But me and tiny bump are his family now. The rest can FRO.

Jojoba1986 Sun 21-Oct-12 00:51:25

Wow! Multiple busy freds today! You all seem to have gone a bit woo on me! All this talk of star signs & alternative therapies has me wondering if I got on the wrong bus!

Am shattered! Today I: got up, dressed, tidied DS's toys off the living room floor, went back to bed for a nap due to pill-induced sleepiness, woke up to find PILs in living room, had lunch, supervised DH baking from a chair while propping head up, greeted DM, sent PILs off to hotel, gathered party supplies, went to church hall & cooked/decorated, home 2 hours later, had dinner, more cooking, made a playlist, wrote tomorrow's to-do list, put together DS's birthday present & clambered into bed! Phew! Now just have to survive the actual day!

Triumph of the day: eating 2 whole meals that were so large an 8 year old could've managed them.
Failure of the day: wandering round like a zombie not having a clue what was happening! Stupid sleeping anti-nausea pills! sad

At least I'm likely to get more sleep tonight than I did this time last year! awake for nearly 48 hours! wink
That's probably dependant on me getting off MN at some point... Night all!

kittykatskumkwat Sun 21-Oct-12 07:32:47

Yeay a new bus < runs to the top back to grab a seat with the cool kids>
I can't believe you were all up chatting til so late, I've been in bed asleep at 8:30 every night for the past week ( yes even on Holliday blush) couldn't even stay awake for the xfactor but I did get strictly, I am a fan grin and just to feel all smug weighed myself this morning and not one lb weight gain yet even after a weeks all inclusive, how's that! ( smug face)
Pear I don't think having another dc really distracts you although you get less chance for lions and indulging - that's right they don't respect them at the weekends, infact I find mine deliberately likes the play it the other way round and lie in when I have to work but wakes with the larks at the wkend!!
Sorry to hear those that have bad inlaws, my dh mum is lovely and has my dd once a week, I find her invaluable and although you always feel like you trust your parents more and automatically ring them first, my dh has been brought up well and I think one day if you have a boy you will be that mil so try to think that way, Nic yours sound auful though, what kind of parents don't go to their sons wedding whatever their feelings?!? That's dispicable, I certainly wouldn't be in a rush to include them now, after all you extended the olive branch! How horrible for your dh sad

Morning all. I couldn't keep my eyes open to join in with your chat last night.
Can safely say that my anti sickness pills are no longer working. am sat on my bathroom floor with an inability to move. Ugh

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 09:03:39

Morning all. Sorry jojo, my fault. The star sign was an attempt to write late May/early June more succinctly. But I'm up for a good prodding by a masseur any time oo er

Oh fuck dear, frus. Back to the docs for you?

nic I knocked his teeth out. Not really I just yelped understatement which was more surprising and unpleasant than an actual punch.

Well I have been up, cleaned the kitchen and am now back in bed with a decaff tea and MN my book. Ahhh

Cleaned the kitchen? Already! <Bows in awe to wonderthund> i've got so far a putting toast in toaster for dd, and parking arse of sofa. Need to get everyone dressed and collect other child. But can move. I'm so lazy.

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 09:56:58

It's not lazy, lady, it's pg-related mush. And anyway, Sundays are what lazy is for.

The kitchen wasn't too bad really, I just thought I'd do a few bits while the kettle boiled and ended up doing the lot. Got visitors today so it needed doing.

kittykatskumkwat Sun 21-Oct-12 10:11:38

I've agreed to make Sunday dinner for family stupid kitty very dizy everytime I stand up this morning though?!
Sorry frus, how frustrating it must be soo hard with your other dc's aswell sad
Also bows to thunder

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 10:12:38

I bet your dog was very surprised, Thunder! And go you on kitchen cleaning :-)

We haven't quite made it down to breakfast yet. It is served til 10 though (we are am hour behind) so going down shortly.

It's good to see that you think I'm not a bitch re the in laws. Not sure how we will sort stuff later.

Basically, his dad is a bully and his mum does what she is told. She wanted to go but wasn't allowed. His dad is a horrible little man who will not be allowed any unsupervised access to our children, if he has any at all. Cannot stand him.

Anyway...last day in Iceland today :-( Going to wander round mostly and not tire ourselves as we have to go to the airport at 4.30 tomorrow morning! Nasty.

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 11:05:37

Aibu to be given some idea of the time my MIL equiv is turning up to stay?! Annoyed now!

Yanbu thund leave the bastard. grin or go on strike. or conveniently walk the dog for a few hours
Stay? As in stay over? Has she just rucked up and announced she's staying? That's not on.

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 11:11:11

YANBU at all. It is polite to give times so your hosts can be ready.

I agree with Frustrated.

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 11:13:13

And a bit me, me, me...but feeling rather not pregnant today :-(

As much as I love MN for you lot, I've read so much about miscarriage on here too that I think I'm more petrified about it than I would have otherwise been.

I need a slap and a talking to.

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 11:13:22

I am out with the dog now, and I may be some time! No, it was a planned visit, to go to a gig here tonight. Been asking OH all week what time shes arriving (esp as mealtimes have now taken a new very important role), to no avail. Finally got him to ring this morning and no answer. She may have left and be on her way, she may not have. Had invited my mum along to all go out to brunch or lunch or sommat but that can't happen now either. What's wrong with simple communication?!

Rant over.

<all serene and organised vibes omf the day have flown out the window.>

Go out for lunch anyway. (If she turns up when you are out its just tough luck as she could have told you when she would be arriving) am I a bit harsh?

Have a <gentle slap> from me mrsbri, but understandably i think all online chats have negative happenings that maybe one wouldnt come across too much in RL. which i think for a 1st timer can be really worrying. I tend to ostrich myself as I like having people to talk to.

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 11:37:53

Damnit, should've brought wallet! Think maybe I just am a bit ott with wanting to know what's going on, but have learnt from experience not to just sit around waiting for people to show up. Thanks for yanbu, frus

I felt exactly the same nic, and then got philosophical about it all. If its going to happen it will and me worrying about it won't make any difference, or could be bad for me and mean I won't even enjoy the good thing that I've got now.

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 11:43:33

Ahhh...you're both so wise, thank you :-) Bloody daft really, I know.

And bit of a bugger forgetting your wallet, Thunder. Could lose its impact!

But I'm with Frustrated all the way here. Sod her if she's not polite enough to tell you her arrival time.

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 11:47:07

Just found bank card in my pocket, yay! Am going for a coffee and papers moment to get my mojo back. They're both as bad as each other!

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 11:56:15

Hurrah for the bank card! :-)

Yay to coffee thund wish I could have a coffee I'm making do with traditional cola, it has ginger extracts in it, so must be good.

It's not daft mrsbri I find I'm thinking about it whenever I get a cramp, which I didn't in previous pgs (think about it that is), but because I have something to compare it to it is easier to control, Iyswim. am fully aware that I would be a paranoid wreck if it was my 1st pg, as I have anxiety issues at the best of times.

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 12:09:43

I think it's totally understandable too. It's like all the conflicting advice you get on here too, it can do your head in. Luckily the benefits of MN chat outweigh the negatives once you try to file the anxiety side of things. Especially with all the support and wisdom on here.

I think with me for this #1 it just doesn't feel real and I can't imagine having a proper not just bloat bump or a real life healthy baby so it's almost easier to imagine that something's going to go wrong. Now that is daft.

Thank goodness for fresh coffee, home made croissants and dog-friendly bars.

Dog-friendly cafes?

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 14:52:55

It is natural, definitely. I'd be a gibbering wreck without you lot to talk to, I can tell you!

It is all surreal though...married and pregnant in the space of a week. I do wonder when I'll wake up!

Now onto something which has been amazing me: the speed my fingernails are growing at. I had them painted on 11th and there is already a 2-3mm gap at the bottom of each nail! I knew pregnancy was meant to make them grow faster, but that's bonkers!

And - TMI alert - massive glug of CM in my knickers today. Grim! I thought I was building a plug, not spitting it out :-/

mrsbri you are right, I'd be thinking married and pg within weeks was surreal too, but not as surreal as if you'd just started ttc when you got married.

Would love quick growing nails, mine a so brittle at the moment it's unfair.

TMI alert - Building plug yes, also getting rid of unwanted gunk. So loads of cm. vm technically but still normal to have high amounts in pg.

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 18:07:33

Unwanted gunk. Hmmmm

They say ears develop first, I'm wondering of thunderbean doesn't like electric blues as feel slightly crampy at this gig. Hope it's not bad crampy.

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 18:18:41

I have Googled cramping (with everything else) and it's generally considered normal as your uterus is stretching. Are you spotting with it? If not, you should be OK. Fx it stops soon.

And that is true, Frustrated.

I've always had fast-growing nails, but this is crazy. I'll give you some of what I've got going on, if you like?!

Proving a point about DH's mum...she sent 100 quid to his bank account for us to use here. You can bet she didn't tell his dad about that! Gonna be tricky. For her more than us, I think.

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 18:31:54

No spotting or anything like that. Have popped home from gig and it's stopped. Must be an aversion to the music! and I don't blame it

That's very sad about DH's mum. I expect she'll find it very hard to be near this GC and not be close. Makes me feel lucky to have a balanced relationship and stop moaning about it

thund the cramps are most likely because of the extra activity you are doing.

peardrop2 Sun 21-Oct-12 18:45:06

Thund I hope you're ok? I occasionally get crampy...sometimes it turns out to be just wind and I end up feeling silly but mega relieved for overeacting. Lets hope it's just wind for you too!

Nicola I have very strong nails too grin

Omg I've just had a lot of babies in my house for afternoon tea...I was so desperate to say something...damn the 12 ww!!!!

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 18:47:48

Didn't you say you got cramps if you weren't hydrated too, Peardrop? Have you drunk enough today, what with all the goings on, Thunder?

Or maybe it was the bad music!

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 18:48:18

Yeah it's fine, just minor really. I'm not worrying. I quite often get sharp stomach pains after eating and I have the opposite of your constipation issues, pear but they pass pretty quickly too.

Yeah probably the fact that I'm not on the sofa under a duvet. My body has gone into shock!

Ahh were you all baby broody, pear?

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 18:53:08

Ha...the 2WW has nothing on the 12WW, does it?! Even though it is actually an 8WW. Far too long, however it is. I wish I could have found out so much later in a way as then that's so many weeks' worrying you don't do. :-)

There you go, Thunder. You've learned now, and moving from the sofa / duvet is BAD!

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 18:54:46

Oh...and just for public record, my itchy nipples are driving me to distraction! Thank you for listening :-)

. I have the opposite of your constipation issues, pear but they pass pretty quickly too.

Literally thund? grin wink

peardrop2 Sun 21-Oct-12 18:59:26

I think I've overdone today too and not drunk enough water. Yeah Nicola I do get uncomfortable like now if I don't drink enough water.

Thunder they were sharing their horror labour stories :-/ one friend said I went white lol I had to pretend to drink wine aswell...uuurrrrr I so badly just wanted to say I'm having a baby too!!! Next time I see them will be at a baby shower two days before my scan...only the stealing the thunder prospect will help keep me zipped!!

peardrop2 Sun 21-Oct-12 19:00:38

Oooooh I learnt today that big roast dinners at the pub really help with constipation!!! May need this to turn into a weekly habit :-)

peardrop2 Sun 21-Oct-12 19:02:19

I'm wondering if conceive

peardrop2 Sun 21-Oct-12 19:02:32

Plus can be used with a Doppler :-)

I'm not sure your Doppler will have a greater chance of conceiving tbh pear

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 19:10:22

That's interesting to know, Peardrop! Definitely make it a weekly thing.

My initial constipation has been improved by making sure I drink plenty as well as eating more fruit and veg. Seems to be almost back on track.

And that is SO funny, Frustrated! Quick witted tonight, aren't you? :-)

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 19:13:58

Yes frus, literally!

grin <takes a bow>

peardrop2 Sun 21-Oct-12 19:28:44

Hah de ha :-) Found HB again tonight. Have you warn that baby has not played ball for 3 nights so be aware that you won't be able to find a hb every time at this early stage! As long as you know that then it's ok otherwise I would have panicked


kittykatskumkwat Sun 21-Oct-12 20:31:48

Mmmmm crisp toasted sandwich
.......That is all

You toasted the crisps kitty?
Did you have cheese with the crisps or just crisps?

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 21:02:46

If it isn't with cheese it isn't proper! :-)

And a little chopped onion mrs

<dreams of toasted bree and cranberry.>

MrsBri Sun 21-Oct-12 21:14:45

DH just had the most awesome-looking medium rare burger. I can't order stuff like that well done, as it just isn't right, so had to just drool over his.

This pregnancy lark isn't very equal, is it? :-(

Not too bothered about onion in my toastie though!

kittykatskumkwat Sun 21-Oct-12 21:24:34

No it was toast with butter and prawn cocktail crisps folded in half and wolfed down umm ummm
Plain but yummy, I darnt put how many bags of crisps I've eaten blush

I have my meat well done and some at the best of times, I'm such an embarrassment to myself so I'm not doing too badly. who am I kidding?

1 multipack bag of 6 I presume. Am I right? I bet I am. grin

peardrop2 Sun 21-Oct-12 22:05:30

Omg I need to stop shopping for baby shower gifts!! It's becoming a bit like one for me, one for friend, one for me... blush

Thundernonk Sun 21-Oct-12 22:47:38

I reckon it was more like at least two multipacks of 12 bags...

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 05:13:15

Ha ha, Peardrop, that's the way to go! May as well start getting stuff :-)

I'm up hideously early to come back to the UK. Boo!

My breasts have taken on a life of their own since we've been here too. I must be 2 cup sizes bigger already! I won't be able to see my feet soon. Or hide them from the eagle eyed gossips / bitches at work. :-/

kittykatskumkwat Mon 22-Oct-12 06:23:46

Oh the give away boobs wink
I wish I had them stupid small boobs!!angry
it was 5 just the 2 bags blush

peardrop2 Mon 22-Oct-12 06:45:59

I was looking at my pregnant friends boobs yesterday and they were tiny compared to my new set! I've gone up a cup size already. My honeymoon underwear no longer fits :-( Nicola baggy tops from now on to hide boobs and bulging tummy is the only way to go from now on I'm afraid :-/

I've gone for a long jumper with a big thick belt to disguise the bump. Looking good. in that it looks like I have podge rather than pregnant, got to be a good thing.
Never thought I'd see the day when I considered podgy to be a good.

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 08:28:20

Big boobs alongside podge bloat is good I reckon. Long tops strain over boobs and then are tented enough to disguise belly. That's what I'm sticking to anyway. And I'm still cramming the poor pups into my regular size bras...

My poor pups fit nicely into my bras due to my previous refusal to admit my boobage was shrinking

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 08:56:28

Am very tempted by maternity type soft bra for sleeping in due to very sore nipplage and huge boobs mean my head hardly touches pillow now

Don't sleep on your front then thund wink on a serious note; that's seriously sore. What about one of those cage things (like hospitals have) to keep the covers off you?

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 09:09:12

That's your serious note, frus?! Ha! I have an arm cage which protects the sore bounty and accompanied by an aggressive stare keeps OH from even thinking about touching.

Sadly this didnt work with the dog though, that left hook came from nowhere.

Lorelei353 Mon 22-Oct-12 10:07:19

Good morning. Like the new bus - roomy!

Had a pretty quiet weekend and didn't feel too awful for most of it. Went to a close friend's baby shower on Saturday. It was SO hard not reveal my news! All the talk of babies, childbirth, being pregnant... I was trying to ask questions but not reveal much. Got to say though the game where the mum-to-be had to guess what icky, brown, runny food substance was in each of 5 nappies did NOTHING to help my queasies. Bleurgh.

Also had a full-on attack of the weepies with my DH yesterday. Floods of tears over not very much at all. Felt quite silly blush.

Back to Monday morning work sickness now. Not enjoying this so far. How much longer am I going to be sick! I'm only 7 + 1 now. It feels like it could go on forever!

Serious note was that they are seriously sore. Is that not serious enough for you thund?
The cage thing wasn't the serious note. That was an after thought. grin does your dog have a tendency to punch you in the boob?

lore eew why would you want to inspect nappies? You wouldn't do that even when you have a baby. That's purely gross. <vom vom vom>

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 10:52:38

Yes ok that is serious enough frus. I thought the cage was what you meant by serious. He punched me right on the nip over the weekend. Yowsers!

I've never been to a baby shower, but of a new concept to me!

Lorelei353 Mon 22-Oct-12 11:01:44

I'd never been to a baby shower before either but the mum-to-be is Canadian, as is her best friend who organised it. I guess it's a thing there.

peardrop2 Mon 22-Oct-12 11:15:26

Hmm I've been to one a few too many of those 'fashionable' baby showers where you guess the baby food yuk yuk, pin the nappy on the baby and guess how big the bump is :-/ Deffinately don't want one of those parties when it's my turn!

peardrop2 Mon 22-Oct-12 12:01:30

Random question... Is anyone else finding that they can't cross their legs anymore? It's a very odd discovery :-/


Lorelei353 Mon 22-Oct-12 12:06:29

pear that's a new symptom to me! I'm a few weeks behind you though.

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 12:09:35

Why pear, what happens when you try?

Still crossing them here pear but you are a week or 2 ahead of me too. It will get easier again when bump moves upwards.

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 12:54:39

That's an interesting one, Peardrop! I'll wait for that one :-) Only 5+3 here so ages to get there.

I'm liking all your boob hiding hints, BTW! At least they've stopped itching for now, as that was driving me to distraction in bed last night. May go shopping for new tops after seeing the nurse tomorrow afternoon. :-)

Lorelei353 Mon 22-Oct-12 13:01:58

I haven't had itchy boobs mrsbri but they are sore - not too bad thankfully.

Restless legs on the other hand are driving me mental. Could not sleep for them at all last night and trying to avoid taking paracetamol if I can help it. Had to get out of bed at about 3.30am to lie on the floor with my legs up the wall for 10 mins. Only thing that works!

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 13:17:30

I'm restless generally in bed...and since getting one hell of a twinge turning over the other night, it now takes ages as I do it so slowly! :-/

My boobs are only sore if pressed in the wrong place, and so far my nipples aren't sore, just occasionally itchy!

Isn't pregnancy odd?!

Lorelei353 Mon 22-Oct-12 13:29:20

It's really odd. It's taking quite some getting used to! And it's going to keep changing and changing too. Quite the ride we've signed up for!

peardrop2 Mon 22-Oct-12 13:40:24

Lor you said it! Quite the ride!!! When I cross my legs it puts a lot of pressure on my tummy, like I suddenly become very aware of tension down there...so hard to explain! I know where baby is sitting now so maybe because its so low and central that's why I struggle to cross legs. As Frus suggested I guess it will change when baby moves up!

peardrop2 Mon 22-Oct-12 13:41:43

Frus do you know when abouts baby moves up?

fashionvictim Mon 22-Oct-12 13:54:34

Hi everyone!!! <waves like an utter loon> So good to see you all, sorry Ive been AWOL blush

Wow, the bus looks amazing! Nice work smile I'm a Gemini so loving the name - it hadn't occurred to me that's what the star sign will be!

Hi MrsBri congrats and hope you've had an amazing time away!! I get quite painful twinges in the night if I roll over to quick - good to hear it's not just me.

And my nails are so long and strong, it's ridiculous!!

Pear I crossed my legs under my desk the other day and had such a god awful twang in a muscle down there, I actually yelped (always wanted to use that word!) I think everything is stretching and moving about...

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 14:10:41

Good to see you fashion, buddy although finding your talons a bit disconcerting

No idea I'm afraid pear it just needs to pop above your pelvis and it'll be better for crossing legs, not for anything else

Hey Lorelei. Try taking some calcium/magnesium supplements for the restless legs. That and leg cramps are a sign of magnesium deficiency, which is really common in pregnancy. You should be able to find a 2:1 ratio (like 1,000mg calcium/500mg magnesium or something similar) at a vitamin store. Tablets are good, liquid is even better.

Pear The top of the uterus should be peaking above the pubic bone at around 12 weeks (or sooner for moms who've already had babies), and it should start to make it so that you're not peeing as much, as often and you'll start showing smile.

peardrop2 Mon 22-Oct-12 17:01:38

bring great, thanks for letting me know! Two weeks to go then!

Lorelei353 Mon 22-Oct-12 17:14:41

Thanks trumpets. I've always suffered from restless legs, but hormones have always aggravated it. Regular exercise/yoga usually keeps it at bay but I haven't been going as I'm too knackered/the idea of doing it makes me want to hurl.

fashionvictim Mon 22-Oct-12 17:30:55

Ha ha Thunder they are pretty spectacular! Like proper gel tips or something you would pay good money for!

Oh and bit of advice for us 1st timers, I had to see my GP for something non-pregnancy related today and she said I should always come armed with my hand-held notes and a (fresh) urine sample, no matter what. Ooops! Technically I haven't booked in with the midwife but I do have the pack so should've thought about it.

She asked how I was feeling generally and when I told her I felt pretty crap, she actually said ''That's what we like to hear'' !!

I think I like her smile

I so understand where you're coming from, Lor. I tried yoga last week after taking a break and had to just sit in pigeon pose for the rest-felt so sick! Really looking forward to the 2nd tri.

Anyone having crazy cravings for things? I've got plenty of aversions but lately have been wanting to just eat salt and vinegar crisps and jars of pickles (gherkins I believe you call them over there....). Please tell me I'm not the only one....as I'm feeling like a crazy woman over here.

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 17:42:55

Now that's just worried me, fashion, as I'm not feeling too bad really. Tired and unmotivated, with occasional twinges and a cold. But OK, all in all.

I did just refrain from buying more Clearblue conception indicator tests. What will be will be, in the end. I was pregnant and either will have a baby at the end or not. No amount of POAS is going to change what happens. Philosophical now!

ella0 Mon 22-Oct-12 17:49:42

Hello, I'm joining from the previous thread.

fashion I don't get to see a doctor/ midwife until my 12 week scan (they book you in at the same time) and they didn't mention anything about bringing in a urine sample to that (maybe they'll make me do one after the scan).

I'm 7 weeks today and feeling fine, which is slightly worrying. No cravings but I have gone off food; I feel full after a couple of mouthfuls of food, and I've totally gone off certain foods.

fashionvictim Mon 22-Oct-12 17:54:55

Oh no Mrs I'm sorry, I didn't mean to worry you blush
I didn't start feeling rubbish till I was over 6 weeks, so you never know. But then my SIL never felt poorly once with her 2 DC's... so you might be one of the lucky ones smile

<goes and sits back on the old bus>

Jojoba1986 Mon 22-Oct-12 17:56:59

Hello everyone! I'm still recovering from yesterday! Spent from 9-4.30 with a smile plastered on my face while feeling absolutely exhausted. When I was finally at home & got rid of various family members I collapsed in a heap & slept for nearly 5 hours straight! It would have been longer but 'D'H kept pestering me to go downstairs because he thought we should spend time together on DS's birthday. as if a 1yr old knows what a birthday is I completely lost it when he said "I don't understand why you can be doing things all day & then can't even come downstairs." angry He made it sound like I was choosing to be so exhausted I couldn't keep my eyes open! sad

This morning I was hoping to avoid going to the toddler group I help run but our team of 8 was down to 4 so I felt obliged to go! Spent the entire time sitting still & looking zombie-like! People kept commenting & mentioning the p-word but I kept insisting I just hadn't gotten over being 'ill' last week, without specifying the cause of said illness!

Oh well, I've had a long sleep this afternoon & we get to open DS's giant pile of pressies tonight! That'll be fun! smile

fashionvictim Mon 22-Oct-12 18:01:16

Hi ella I think they will assume you'll need a pee after you've drunk loads of water before your scan smile so will probably get you to do a sample there and then. Think my Dr was just trying to make me a bit less of a newbie more prepared for my booking-in next week.

Please don't worry that you feel fine. I shouldn't have said anything. I think the Dr was just trying to reassure me that it's normal to feel dreadful too.

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 18:03:00

nic you have plenty of time to feel crap, so no worrying. <stern face>

fash, armed with fresh urine?! I know about carrying the pack around- is everyone else's huge?! But armed with a pot of your own piss at all times? Crikey.

bringon, I've craved ham sandwiches and tinned tomatoes so far. Now just indiscriminately hungry mostly.

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 18:04:42

Don't worry, fashion, we'd worry either way! And whether you'd said anything or not. :-)

Should I take a sample to my nurse's appt tomorrow, do you think?

nic you have plenty of time to feel crap, so no worrying. <stern face>
Exactly thund. grin nic you can have some of mine. I have plenty. envy <-- my face is this colour.

Never had to carry wee or pregnancy pack around before. confused

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 18:12:52

I wouldn't worry about taking a sample then nic, just from personal experience if they want your pee they'll ask for it, or they'll give you a sterile pot for next time/ to drop in or whatever.

At my gp appt she just did blood pressure and weight. At my mw booking in she took blood and gave me a pot to take a midstream urine sample (NOT a mystery urine sample, as I thought she said) but asked me to do it after bath or shower to avoid any contamination by other bacteria as she put it. She's given me another pot for fmu for my next appt which will be after the scan all being well (wink fash)

fashion you come back here and get back on this bus <frog marches fashion onto luxury bus and covers her in luxury squishy duvet>

Anyone else found that they are standing and walking different?
I'm not entirely sure that because its my 3rd that my body has gone into pregnancy mode very early tell me it's not just me?

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 18:46:26

If standing/walking differently includes the fact that I am mostly sitting or lying, then yes.

Can feel rolls of fat and boobs today. Feel lardy. Yuk.

ella0 Mon 22-Oct-12 18:47:15

Thanks fashion.

So true, MrsBri!

My back has that arch thing going on, especially towards the end of the day.

thund if you're not going to move what do you expect? wink remember to move just enough so you don't get bedsores.
I think I successfully managed to look lardy at work today. grin odd that I'm pleased by that. With dd1 I looked lardy until gone 6 months. I was not pleased then

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 19:09:51

Yeah you may have a point there frus. Lots of food + no movement = getting fat. Simples.

Seriously though I don't think I am walking or standing differently, so maybe it is cos of number 3? I have more crampy feelings today, uterine stretching I expect.

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 19:32:42

Uterine stretching isn't pleasant, is it? I've had the pulling sensation on the right hand side a fair bit today. Especially when I bend down or curl up on the sofa.

I'm not walking funny yet. Give me a few weeks though!

fashionvictim Mon 22-Oct-12 20:06:44

<pokes head out of luxury duvet> thanks Thundercat wink

Don't know what I started with the samples, eek!

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 20:17:39

It was good advice, fash, and we all love talking about weeing in a pot of course.

<tucks fashion back in>

I had enough trouble weeing on a stick, how the hell am I supposed to get it in a diddy pot?

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 20:36:24

How about the mystery wee then? Have a shower, work up enough bladder action to do a big wee, and then wee in a tiny pot, but not the first bit, ohhhh no. This has to be just the middle bit. THE MIDDLE BIT

<laughs hysterically and lies back down>

Is the middle bit the bit where you think "am I still weeing?!" Or is that too late?

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 20:43:04

No, you know you're still weeing because you can feel it on your hand ....if I'm doing it right of course.

Well obviously you know you're still weeing, but it's the huge wee where you just keep on weeing.

Although guaranteed if you need to get it in a pot it dries up an you can't do more than dribble.

Haha yes, Frus walking and just general normal movement seems impossible these days. Laying down and eating doing nothing is way more doable.

Bri probably round ligament pains. They are mighty not fun.

Why not just wee in a cup and then pour it in the pot then burn the cup?

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 20:53:57

I wondered about that with the cup. Or even a funnel. But I wondered if the pot was sterile or something?

Not after you've wee-d in it thund

peardrop2 Mon 22-Oct-12 21:06:17

MrsBri I've not had any ms and I'm 10 weeks tomorrow blush seriously sore boobs though!!

I know it's a save on space and resources to give the teeny tiny little pots, but seriously, how on earth do you wee in them without weeing all over your hand, your leg, the toilet seat, drop the pot in the toilet because it's so tiny....then screw the top back on and give it to someone? Especially when you have a giant bump by the end of the pregnancy and have to somehow aim blindly whilst peering over the top of your bump....hmm.

I remember those days all too well.

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 21:10:26

hmm frus

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 21:17:27

This is why I PIATH (piss in a tealight holder) and pour into a pot. Maybe I should have kept that 'helmet' that Clearblue gave to me to catch my wee! I binned that ASAP though, as there was no chance I was risking splashback from that delight! :-)

If you have psoriasis or eczema then pissing on your hands should help due to the urea content. Every cloud and all that!

Trumpets - round ligament pain? The technical term for the drawing in of breath it causes?! It does concern me, but I suppose if there wasn't growth there wouldn't be pain, no?

That's because I've got your share as well as mine pear grin and I am positively green with envy.

thund [innocent emoticon]

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 21:19:06

And don't mention sore boobs...mine are an utter nightmare and seem to be vying to outdo Jordan at her bustiest! I'm only just over 5 weeks, so am extremely concerned when they'll stop expanding.

And, Pear, you should be lucky you don't have itchy nipples, as mine are once again going for it tonight. Arrrghhhhhhhhhh!

If you have psoriasis or eczema then pissing on your hands should help due to the urea content. Every cloud and all that! darn it mrsbri I have eczema on my face, so weeing on my hands isn't going to help. I refuse to consider the possibility (or practicalities) of weeing on my face. Can't bend that far for a start

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 21:23:44

You could use nic's method of PIATH, frus

Thundernonk Mon 22-Oct-12 21:24:18

(or even just a flannel)

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 21:24:51

Golden shower, anyone?!

Had to lower the tone didnt you mrs as if the tone could get much lower

<pisses self laughing>

Night ladies. My exhausted self is begging me for sleep.

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 21:36:15

Ha ha...pot calling kettle, Frustrated (and don't waste that piss!).

Night night. I will be dozing again soon. Stupidly long day today.

Hahah oh my.

Yeah, round ligament pains are usually happen on one side or the other. They tend to happen during sneezing, coughing, rolling over, or actions like getting out of a car, bending over and standing up quickly, etc. As long as the sharp pains aren't constant, there isn't any bleeding, you're not vomiting or having a fever....chances are that they're RLP. So common, and they will probably happen from now until you have the baby.

MrsBri Mon 22-Oct-12 21:54:05

Well, that's something to look forward to! And that's exactly the situations when they happen. Good to know what they are.

Seeing the nurse tomorrow so can hopefully get some reassurance there. Must stop asking Dr Google.

Thank you, trumpet. :-)

peardrop2 Mon 22-Oct-12 22:19:56

Frus I know I know... I feel mean even whispering that I lack ms :-( I'm sorry that it can't be shared out in equal amounts so that everyone only has a little to cope with!

Hah hah your wee conversation just reminded me that I dropped sample in Midwifes toilet and put the wrong lid on the wrong sample (was given two, one had sand to preserve wee and I think I buggered it up by putting the wrong top back on...ooops). Must remember to take wee sample and notes with me on Thursday...so going to forget!!

My pleasure smile I can just be the Gemini Bus Midwife and answer those random q's. <queue starts up to the right>

Haha pear! You are a very lucky lady to have skipped this small curse called morning sickness. I think pregnancy karma is just catching up with me because I was morning sickness-free with my first two! Not even a queasy feeling with those two monsters. This kiddo is either 1. a girl or 2. going to be a sweet little pain in the a**. Enjoy this easy time!

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 02:57:49

bring do you think it's more likely I am having a boy then? Or are you just saying that because you had no ms with your DS so now you think yours might be a girl? I can't wait to find out in January!! I've just discovered that two of my friends who're giving birth in the next few months are not using our preferable names so I'm very happy about that -although we will probably change our minds in 7mths anyway!! Has anyone else decided on names yet? And who's going to find out gender?

10 days

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 02:58:16

Hah hah 10 weeks not days...doh

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 03:30:30

Forgot to say that I had a bit of a drama at work today. My nosey colleague was in the office and my phone was lit up on my desk showing all my baby Apps blush I think she saw!!! Complete nightmare as she has the biggest mouth and will tell everyone! She started to ask me what model my iPhone was which was odd.... Urrrrr such a nightmare as she never ever comes in my office normally :-(

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 03:32:41

I wouldn't normally mind so much but my job is at risk at the moment so I'm worried my boss will find out before I get to tell him. I've just emailed one of those family rights places to find out what people do when they're made redundant before the 25th week.

Peardrop please go back to sleep :-(

Ha, yes pear do go back to sleep! And have a protein snack before you do smile

No clue if it means a boy for you, sorry. I'm just going by my own experiences with the boys and how completely different I feel with this one. Sorry to hear about work stress. Hopefully she keeps her mouth shut and is genuinely interested in your phone and not the apps.

We're starting a list of names and we're not finding out until the birth-which is going to be so hard at the 20 week scan! Must stay strong, must stay strong...

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 07:42:05

In a way you're better protected when pregnant as any redundancy would have to be exceptionally water tight so there was no chance of a discrimination claim. Is it worth getting in there first? Can you tell HR but not your boss?

Good luck with that and the nosey cow anyway. xx

I have no choice but to tell as I can't have any time off for appointments without work approval. So once I have a date for the midwife my boss will need telling. Good job I'm off at the moment to go to see the nurse really.

Working so far from home doesn't help as it limits me to appointments at either end of the working day which could be a pain!

How is your pregnancy seemingly going so fast, Peardrop, and mine so slow?!

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 08:06:40

MrsBri I have the same problem with work and distance... Even worse my MW only sees you on Thursdays...how unpractical is that! I too think it might be safer if I tell the boss sooner rather then later but I still want to wait till 12 weeks. We don't have an HR department sadly. And trust me everyday is dragging :-( especially when I get up for the loo at 3am and then fail to return to sleep!!

bringonthe wow you have will power ;-) I'm sure there will be a few of you who can help each other go past the 20 week mark! Hats off to you!!

Haha I'm not waiting, I will be begging them to tell me.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 08:14:19

God, that's not good. I'm doing ok for night loo visits at the moment, thank god. I'm back at work tomorrow though, so watch it all go to pot from here on in!

Your dates seem to pass fast for me! I'm only at 5+3 and really need some reassurance. Any idea how I can swing an early scan?! Boobs don't hurt as much today, though still itch and are huge. Bit more stretching sensation 'below' too.

Just want to know all is OK really. :-/ Wonder if it's easier when you've done it before?!

And we shall see how awkward my appointments get in due course. Can't be as awkward as yours, I hope!

I would tell your boss though, definitely.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 08:15:43

We want a surprise, we think. See how that goes at the 20 week scan!

Thundernonk Tue 23-Oct-12 08:43:39

....and breathe, nic.... Remember calm thoughts.....

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 08:55:29

I'm not a calm thoughts kind of person, sadly :-( Hate having no control over this.

Maybe I should remove myself from MN where seemingly every third post mentions miscarriage. Not doing me any good at all.

Just want to know all is OK really. :-/ Wonder if it's easier when you've done it before?!. No nic it really isn't any easier. you're just more resigned to the fact that no matter how much you beg them, they won't give you an early scan.

nic come and join me with my head in the sand. I'm not sure if staying away helps since the thought/worry is already there. But you can talk about your worries here.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 09:09:36

Thank you, Frustrated :-) It is nice to have people to talk to, but it feels like I'm surrounded by bad and good! I know I need to try to relax more. I think I'd feel better if I had more symptoms than I do.

Though bearing in mind I'm crying over nothing right now, I am clearly hormonal! First sign of bonkers hormones today, actually. The app does say that I may get more symptoms this week. Think I found out too early!

kittykatskumkwat Tue 23-Oct-12 09:28:34

I'm finding out grin im too impatient, can't be bothered to worry about names until I know if it's for a boy or a girl!
I did a really stupid thing yesterday, had a hpt I hadn't used and thought id use it to see it nice and strong but it was so so faint, swift googles reveal a "hook" effect that means when you are between 7-11 weeks the levels are so high that the test can't read them correctly and you have to dilute wee with water for it to go strong! I have no more though and don't think I should waste any money?! What do you all think? Clearly non of you have been that silly ( and I've had withdrawals from not poas sad) I've had no signs anything untoward has happened so think I'm just going to leave it as the tests don't tell you what's happening anyway do they?!
stupid kitty booked a private scan for sat anyway as should be 9 weeks and wanted to make sure everything looks ok before I go on a friends hen do and have to tell them before my scan, not ideal at all but no way I can go away for the weekend without child on a party bus and get away with a lie ( they know we want another so itd be too obvious) £55 that's pretty good for a weekend aswel isn't it
- oh and pear I had no ma and a girl so you are still non the wiser sex wise wink

Yes nic finding out early is hard, because the first couple of weeks really seem to drag.
And noone (midwives) don't seem like the want to know you until your a good few week gone. It can be a lonely time with noone in RL to talk to.

Thundernonk Tue 23-Oct-12 09:32:37

Oh sorry nic, I figured maybe your philosophical hat from yesterday had slipped off and you just needed a reminder to try to put it on again.

I think we all feel exactly the same, we all want to know all the time what's going on and whether it's going to work out. And sometimes MN doesn't help, other times it can be a great support. The way I see it, the whole of pregnancy and then even more parenthood means having to lose a bit of control- having to do your best in the situations you find yourself in. I'm probably wrong but that's how it feels now and I'm trying to get used to it. Not easy.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 09:35:41

That's why I stopped myself buying a test yesterday, kitty. Think I'll also be paying for a private scan though. All seem to be 99 round here. Need to look harder as can't justify paying that! :-/

We just have to focus on the positives and not the potential negatives, I think. Bloody hard though.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 09:38:22

It's OK, Thunder...I need a bloody slap really!! DH always says I'm too controlling, and he's right.

Definitely feeling hormonal and headachey today, which has to be a good sign. Though my belly looks smaller. Always something to concern myself with. Must stop!

kittykatskumkwat Tue 23-Oct-12 09:46:16

Thanks Nic, plus your poopy seed shouldn't make that much of an impact on your tummy just yet wink
Don't fear, no one could tell I was pregnant last time till 20wks! And I felt good the whole time x

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 09:59:55

That's good to know :-) I'm just being hormonal and stupid! And hungry today!

Time to research scans now.

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 10:42:56

MrsBri I've not had any ms symptoms apart from very bad constipation early on (occasional constipation now but have learned how to manage it a bit better), tiredness, insomnia (at the start), weird dreams, sore boobs, extreme hunger (went two weeks (6-8) of having to have mini cheddars in the middle of the night), very spotty skin and my mum says I look pale thanks mum! The tummy size (for us first time mummies at this early stage is just bloating, it will come and go until our beans move into the tummy region and grow (from 12 weeks). I can't tell you how much I've been freaking out! I was totally freaked out that I had no ms so I haven't enjoyed it at all which is stupid but sods law! So it is safe to say that everything you say and feel is normal! Get a good doppler now and then you will have something to look forward to, it really helps with the worry! :-)

kitty I found a stash of cheapie tests in one of my moving boxes the other day and the result came back in seconds. I've got 8 left now. Do you want me to post one to you? Nicola is right though, sadly it won't tell us anything as the hormone levels stay in the system for a while anyway. How far are you? You could maybe get a doppler?

Lorelei353 Tue 23-Oct-12 10:45:22

Morning all.

MrsBri I was all smug and convinced I was going to avoid ms or other nastiness as I felt great at 5 weeks. Then at 6 weeks to the day the queasies started. Now at 7 + 2 and generally have been bleurgh for a week.

Actually I feel a bit better today. Definitely huge-boobed and hormonal but definitely not as queasy.

I have however just learned a lot about peeing in a cup from catching up on this thread hmm

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 10:46:14

Oh and MrsBri although seeing the scan is amazing the worry for me came back the next day it felt like I was back to square one. Even having 3 scans now hasn't helped my worry. I won't feel better until the 12 week scan when someone tells me that things are developing as they should be. The only thing that has helped me a little is hearing the heartbeat.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 10:56:05

Ah...spottiness has started :-/ Just glad it avoided the wedding!

It is reassuring to hear your (non) symptoms, Lorelei and Peardrop. Maybe a doppler would help once I get to that point! Will look into it on payday (wedding has half-bankrupted me this month!).

I'm sure my nurse will give me a mental slap. She's German and very no nonsense! :-)

I'm sure I'll wish the sickness away if and when it comes, however.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 10:57:09

Oh, and happy to help re peeing in a cup, Lorelei! ;-p

fashionvictim Tue 23-Oct-12 10:59:33

Morning all smile

Mrs Finding out early is rubbish, I'm 9 weeks tomorrow and I've known since I was 3+5 !! It goes soooo slow... FX you don't get MS but if you do I reckon it will be at the 6 wk mark. Up until then I had sore boobs, headaches and was super tired.

I don't think we will find out the sex, although I cant even imagine the 12wk scan, never mind 20wks!

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 11:03:23

So, who has started using stretch mark cream? Any recommendations from all the 2nd/3rd/4th time round mummies?

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 11:09:15

Fashion, I found out at 3+5 too! Awful, isn't it (in the nicest possible way!)?

I am tired, but also don't sleep very well. I can nap in the afternoon if I have time (won't from tomorrow as back at work, boo!) but even if I don't, I struggle to stay asleep at night. Vivid dreams too. Not weird, overly, just vivid.

I can't imagine the 12 week scan either. Seems an age away.

We'll get there!

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 11:10:09

I do have headaches almost every day and sore boobs (not as sore today). And MASSIVE boobs too, ha ha!

merrygiant Tue 23-Oct-12 11:10:10

Morning everyone, welcome to the new faces!

You lot had a right old giggle yesterday then, sorry I missed the joys of PIATH and other containers. I have eczema too but I'm not even gonna go there!

MrsBri I felt exactly like you at your stage, you feel calm one minute and then the swells of panic overwhelm you: and its all so out of your control. Glad to see you're researching early scans cos each area has different policies and you may live somewhere that will offer early scans on the NHS in some circumstances. And its worth remembering that noone can actually check if you tell them you have pain wink

I had a scan at 6/7weeks and although I know that anything can happen between now and my next scan, it has really helped me to calm down. It is SUCH a long wait to see all is well at 10-12 weeks.

My current symptoms:
continuing madly itchy nipples (they are so sore now)
irrational crying/crazy mood swings
ravenous hunger
low level constant nausea

I'm off today and plan to: watch alot of telly, eat alot of crap, maybe do some chores (the other two come first)

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 11:13:09

Hi merry, thank you.

I'll just see what the nurse says later. I have had pain, so that wouldn't be a lie. Though it's only on and off, not constant. I'll be as honest as possible and just see what she thinks is best for me.

If I don't get an early NHS scan, I'll then look to pay for one, I reckon.

It's so good to know I'm 'normal' with how I feel.

The itchy nipples are appalling, aren't they? At least mine aren't constant.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 11:15:51

Hmmm...self referral to early pregnancy unit: www.southportandormskirk.nhs.uk/depts_wards_clinics/epau.asp


Lorelei353 Tue 23-Oct-12 11:35:27

It feels like ages until my gp appt (1st Nov) and who knows when my scan will be after that. I'm resisting early scans and things as I'm trying to be calm about the whole thing. I actually thought I'd be more neurotic about it all but I'm trying to just let my body do its thing and I'll just carry on with the schedule the docs give me.
We'll see how long this zen approach lasts grin

fashionvictim Tue 23-Oct-12 11:54:29

Oh yeah Mrs forgot to say I haven't slept through the night once since being pg, and not always because I'm dying for a pee either. I used to be able to sleep through anything. Not anymore! I never usually dream much so the weird dreams really freaked me out at first!!

I think Thunder found out really early too if I'm not mistaken... the boobs were a dead giveaway for a lot of us!

Lor I am trying the Zen approach too, my DH asked if I wanted to get an early scan but I said we should wait for the 12wks!! I surprised myself when I said that!

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 11:54:31

I flip between calm and panicky! :-) Split personality.

I've just had a thought in the shower...they'd want to know as early as possible if it's twins, wouldn't they?

I'm at risk if twins because: a) I'm over 35, b) I'm taller than average and c) they run in the family, and none of my cousins have had them and I'm statistically therefore more likely to be the 'winner'!

I'm also feeling that strange tugging / pulling sensation on both sides, which is interesting.

Definitely mention that one :-)

May be my ticket to an early scan.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 11:57:36

The boobs are special indeed.

I just 'knew' I was pregnant. Not being able to face alcohol at 3+4 assisted that thought. With my new boobs!

And thund made me and my boobs run up and down stairs. grin

Personally I don't think stretch mark cream makes any difference whatsoever

fashionvictim Tue 23-Oct-12 12:56:47

Ha ha frus I remember that!! Wasn't there are conversation about throwing jars at them to see if they hurt?! Imagine doing that now - OUCH!! grin

Yeah stretch marks tend to be hereditary (boo). You can use things like bio oil, or coconut oil to keep the skin supple, but sometimes they just happen. Another huge aspect of keeping the skin healthy and stretchy (and avoiding tears down there during delivery) is diet. We've had some amazingly healthy first time moms without a stretch mark or a skid mark after the fact.

Yes to the sore boobs!
Also, the days are kind of developing a pattern now, 2 sick days, 1 day off (just ravenous instead), repeat. Of course I just worry through the day off that my symptoms are going away in stead of relish in the fact that I'm not green all day. Oiy.

yes fash there was jar throwing too. Luckily my boobs don't hurt too often these days. But i think they've done all the growing they're going to do for now.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 14:09:26

If anybody fancies seeing our Iceland photos, send me your Facebook name and I'll add you. You can't add me as only friends of friends can do that! :-)

Lorelei353 Tue 23-Oct-12 14:57:49

I'm having a total dilemma.

One of my close friends moved to Portugal last year so I only see her when she pops back to work every few months. She's back this weekend and big night out is planned with all my best friends.

I thought I could go and get around the not drinking by claiming to have had a migraine earlier in the day as that's genuinely happened to me before and I don't drink if I've had one as it can make them worse.
However, I'm too tired! I don't want to go out late for a big night. I want to stay at home on the couch. Waaaahhhh!!! sad

What to do....

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 15:08:07

Can you ask her if you can see her earlier? Still use the migraine as the reason, but say sleep will make you feel better, so it would help to see her in the afternoon.

Is that possible?

Lorelei353 Tue 23-Oct-12 15:13:24

Unfortunately not. Another friend is giving a talk that afternoon at a big event and she's going to that.

I might just push people to meet early-ish, like 8, then turn up for a bit to say hello but plead migraine and go home at 10.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 15:25:58

Bugger...hopefully the early start will work then. :-)

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 15:37:24

MrsB have you seen the nurse yet?

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 16:19:41

Walking home now. Nothing exciting, just waiting for midwife appt. On a Monday afternoon. Useful.

kittykatskumkwat Tue 23-Oct-12 16:27:54

Thanks pear for the offer, I was abit worried by what you said so as I was at a home and bargins earlier bought some 79p cheepies and did one test with wee then added 2 times the same amount of water to the wee and did another and the test diluted with water is 3 times as strong as the first so must be I have too much hormone like that hook effect said, very strange but just a warning if anyone else finds a stray test!!

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 17:30:42

kitty I don't quite understand your theory but I'm glad you've found a solution to your problem.

Oh how I wish stretch marks were hereditary! My mum has had lots of children with not one mark and I've had 0 children but got a couple when loosing 2 stones a couple of years ago around the love handle area! My mothers skin is very different to mine so I've had to learn the hard way. I've recently brought some Moma Mia tummy rub as that brand has been highly recommended to me. I'm not such a fan of Bio Oil...it didn't help me before and it's very greasy.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 17:33:39

I have stretch marks at the base of my back from growing too fast!

I'll moisturise my bump, but what will be will be. As with the entire pregnancy thing.

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 17:38:12

MrsBri I do hope my moisturiser helps otherwise I'm going to turn into a atlas :-)

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 17:52:14

Could be interesting! I'm sure your DH will love you anyway! :-)

Even though I have no idea if it works or not, I really like Mum to Be from Sanctuary (Boots). The smell is amazing and it still brings me right back to the day I was in labor with #1, and it's super moisturising, but not greasy. Lovely stuff.

kittykatskumkwat Tue 23-Oct-12 18:04:13

Sorry pear, basically because after your over 8 wks your hcg is in the thousands of thousands ( the tests pick up 25) it confuses the tests to not know how to deal with the result, if you dilute the wee with water thereby reducing the concentration, the test can read it. Strange but true aparently, I only know because of dr google!!
I think stretch marks are just in your make up but as me my sis or mum havnt had any but me and sis used bio oil last time and I will again

Moisturise your boobs too. Stretch marks on them just isn't fun. to illustrate I was a 34b before dd1, a week after she was born and a few days after my milk came in, I was a 36e. (They didn't stay that big thank god) but huge increase in short space of time = stretch marks on boobs

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 18:58:13

That means touching my boobs...ooh :-/ I think DH may like that job though!

Safer to do it yourself mrs that was only 1 person gets hurt wink

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 19:38:53

Awww...poor DH! :-)

kittykatskumkwat Tue 23-Oct-12 20:06:50

grin at frus
Well I didnt get stretch marks on my boobs but that may be because I went from a 34c to ........ Wait for it a 34d!!!! Maybe for a day they were abit bigger but I don't remember being that blown away piddley boobs

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 20:08:16

I started as 34DD...god knows where I'll finish!

8pm is an acceptable bed time isn't it? <snuggles under dovet>

TMI alert.
Eew. Just had very random ms. No warning or anything. it better stop that right now as I have work tomorrow.

kitty mine clearly did the growing they were supposed to do in puberty. grin stayed 34dd until after dd2 when they deflated to 34d. but have been slowly decreasing in recent years, so i'm happy to be back to filling bra cups.

MrsBri Tue 23-Oct-12 21:06:46

Mine are getting more sore by the hour :-(

And I have to go to work tomorrow. Really not looking forward to that one!

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 21:16:37

Since we're all sharing cup sizes I started this journey as 32C and I reckon I must be 32D by now! The only bra I can now wear is my wedding strapless bra but with straps as that was slightly big for me on the day anyway. Nice to get lots of use out of the expensive ridiculously expensive bra anyway!

Kitty ahh I see...how bizarre!

Frus thanks for the books and cream tip!

bringon that sounds like a nice make. I might ask for some of those sanctuary maternity products for Xmas as they're not too pricey!

Night night ladies!

peardrop2 Tue 23-Oct-12 21:17:42

book = boobs

I have boobie stretch marks as well. With DS1 I went from a 34B to a 34DD-which was completely shocking! They completely shrunk down to an A after DS2 was done breastfeeding....very pleased to actually have boobs again. smile

Lorelei353 Tue 23-Oct-12 21:54:39

I'm a 32e to start with! Hope they don't get too big. They feel swollen now but I'm still fitting into my normal bras (for now)

peardrop2 Wed 24-Oct-12 03:13:38

OMG I'm awake again at 3am!!!!!! How on earth am I going to keep up a full time job with this sleeping pattern! I've got to get up at 6am...this is not fun :-(


pear I hope you got back to sleep again.

I seem to be starting this day the same as yesterday's ended: knackered.

MrsBri Wed 24-Oct-12 06:34:00

Poor Pear :-(

I slept badly after about the same time, but wasn't awake for the wholw time, just on and off.

Back at work today :-(

peardrop2 Wed 24-Oct-12 09:16:48

Managed to get back to sleep at 5am for an hour. Could be worse I suppose. Good luck getting through the day tired ladies ;-)

Ow ow ow I've got a headache sad

merrygiant Wed 24-Oct-12 12:16:49

This sleep thing is really annoying! I was up at 4am, getting really frustrated with myself. Luckily I didn't have to get up for work this morning.

And I've been having mega-vivid dreams too, some are so WEIRD! I think its a combination of cutting out the alcohol and quitting smoking, plus the over-active imagination that comes with prospective parenthood.

My boobs are pretty much the same size as before (too small for my liking!). In my last (failed) pregnancy, they got massive really quickly, so I'm taking this as a good sign that this time things are different. Tender nips though, ouch!

Lorelei353 Wed 24-Oct-12 12:43:15

Ooh, Halloween smileys!


fashionvictim Wed 24-Oct-12 12:43:30

Hi Ladies! Big old snooze fest here too, I couldn't sleep at all, think I nodded off about 4am and I had to be up at 7 sad

I'm a 34D/32DD and I have definitely gone up, going to wait to get them measured though. A friend of mine went from a B to an F!!

Oooh, Halloween smileys grin



fashionvictim Wed 24-Oct-12 14:57:54

Ha ha! Just realised Lor and I posted the same thing, at the same time! wink

So... the midwife in me is coming out again (sorry, it's just a way of life these days, I can't help it grin).... the waking up at 3 or 4 is your body's way of teling you that you have low blood sugar, even if you don't actually feel hungry. Try having a snack right before bed, and then having something next to your bed that you can just have a few bites of can really help. I am totally in the waking at 3 am boat and having a few bites of a cereal and fruit bar knocks me out again. Plus then I feel a little better and a little less nauseous in the morning since my blood sugars aren't so low.

MrsBri Wed 24-Oct-12 16:11:15

That's interesting to know.

I have kind of a dead knee that keeps me awake. I cannot get my legs comfy. Is this the calcium and magnesium (?) thing you mentioned?

And my headaches. Are they low blood sugar?

Crampy today. Internal bubbles and feel like someone is sitting on my bladder.

Weird being back at work the first time since finding out.

Oh...and burping for England!

Lorelei353 Wed 24-Oct-12 16:15:47

trumpets it's so handy having you around!

I'm waking at about 3am dying to pee every night but while I'm up I'll have a ginger nut biscuit and a small glass of milk. Stops me feeling sick getting back into bed. I'd read in one of the books about the low blood sugar thing at night and how a midnight snack helps.

Not much is helping the morning-time need to eat though. Just can't function until I've had some cereal. Even got up relatively early at the weekend because I needed to eat (cream cracker in bed just didn't work).

How was your 1st day back mrs?

I have had a headache all day, drinking lots of water, and eating, and nothing is helping it. I may well have another early night. Is it too early to put the kids to bed so I can go to sleep too?

MrsBri Wed 24-Oct-12 17:36:36

Chaos first day back, as always...all the shit stored up for me :-/

My headache has been almost permanent today, but I'm a bugger for headaches anyway, so not a surprise I have them almost daily now.

Not really any sickness yet, thank god, and not hugely tired (or no more than usual, but I'm always knackered by now!).

Will have to see about bed snacks. Not sure I'm quite at that stage. :-)

I think it is amazing how symptoms vary person to person though!

I'm not sure how long I can hide pregnancy though as I've changed when I eat my fruit during the day and am drinking fruit tea instead of normal. Give away signs!

ella0 Wed 24-Oct-12 17:37:00

Thanks bringon, I've been waking up really early too, so hopefully that will help.

I might have twigged if I'd been feeling sick, but I haven't had any nausea so far (apart from when faced with foods I've gone off).

For years I've had to eat within 1/2 hr or so of waking up otherwise I get nausea and sometimes I'm actually sick. Therefore, I thought I would get terrible morning sickness but I'm no different to normal during pregnancy.

ella0 I can't eat unless I've been up for at least 2 hours. Or I am sick. And that was pre-pregnancy. Same now unsurprisingly. Not been any sicker in the morning than any other time of day.

ella0 Wed 24-Oct-12 18:00:21

Isn't is interesting how we're all so different.

That's what I was thinking ella we're all pregnant, but our symptoms are all different. And even those with the same symptoms are different.

MrsBri Wed 24-Oct-12 18:06:17

I'm like you, Ella, hunger makes me nauseous, though not physically sick. I have to eat soon after waking too.

Hunger increasing today. Had a banana mud morning and,starving by 12. Then another banana just before 4 and ravenous now! Interesting...I'd hoped my banana plan would work better than that!

ella0 Wed 24-Oct-12 18:15:57

I've been trying to eat a piece of cheese (for protein) every couple of hrs in work without anyone noticing! Luckily it's one of the few things I can still face.

I still don't have much of an appetite (unlike pre-pregnancy!). I'm forcing myself to eat regularly for the sake of the baby. I'm ok with fruit, but I couldn't eat the wrap I'd taken in for lunch.

peardrop2 Wed 24-Oct-12 21:13:06

Will cheese wotsits do? I might go and make myself a snack now. I'm hungry after dinner...how is that possible!!

MrsBri Wed 24-Oct-12 22:30:54

My hunger has faded now. Maybe all the cola bottles I ate while dinner was cooking. :-)

Tummy ache a bit...slight constipation not assisting.

Cheese wotsits sound good though!

Jojoba1986 Wed 24-Oct-12 23:52:32

I'm so jealous of all the things you're all eating! My current diet consists of a choc milkshake for breakfast, a few sips of 7up & a kitkat during the day & picking at bits of whatever my DH cooks in the evening! I have no energy to find food for myself during the day. I get dizzy & faint enough just finding lunch for DS!

I'm miserable & beginning to get concerned that my depression is coming back. Seeing midwife on Monday so hopefully we can get something sorted then! smile

Yeah, Bri the cal/mag will definitely help with the restless legs (and the constipation you speak of!). Taking a hot epsom salt bath right before bed can help sometimes too. But if it's every night-then taking it internally might be more beneficial.

Headaches can be a sign of low blood sugars or dehydration. Sometimes it's just hormones too. I had a horrific one yesterday and refused to budge no matter what I did. Epsom salt bath and early bed seemed to work as it's gone today.

It is crazy how different everyone is in pregnancy! I always marvel on that fact during prenatal visits with mamas.

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 07:03:25

Thank you, trumpets :-) I'll look into buying some cal / mag tablets, I think. Anything to help!

Can't have a bath, sadly, as there isn't one in the flat, so that rules that out!

Are you a community midwife or a hospital based one doing community? My best friend is a midwife and one of only 2 people I've told. I get nice and sane advice from her :-)

I think going back to work may have alleviated the constipation. I eat more fruit and drink more water at work, which helps! Seems to have, um, moved things along somewhat!! My legs weren't as bad last night either.

Fx we all avoid headaches today :-) I calculated I drank 4 litres of fluid yesterday. Is that OK or should it be more?

kittykatskumkwat Thu 25-Oct-12 07:23:34

I'm finding I can't eat as much in portions but first thing in the morning I am ravenous and can hardly wait to eat breckie at 7!
I felt crappy and a bad mother yesterday as my patience is just worn thin, I seem to have snapped at dd alot recently when I've never lost my temper before she is being a shit though I don't know if it's tiredness or hormones but I'm tired of it now, really need to make an effort not to be like this as she doesn't deserve it sad

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 07:33:25

Awww, kitty, I'm sure you're not being as bad as you think. I hope you start to feel better soon.

peardrop2 Thu 25-Oct-12 08:01:54

Horrah I only got up once at 1:30am and managed to go back to sleep. I actually feel more human today TG!!

JoJo I hope you get the support you need from your midwife. In the meantime you can moan here as much as you like if it helps :-)

kitty I'm sure DD is just testing your patience more then ever because she can sense that your armour is a little weak :-) Don't worry you'll get through it! 12 weeks is at the end of the tunnel or whenever we're meant to be feeling less tired etc grin

MrsBri super envy of your water intake!! I can only drink 5 glasses at work otherwise I'm in the loo more then at my desk :-) I really need to up my intake of fruit this week because I am really struggling again!

I have my second mw appt today. Please please please let the nurse take two sets of blood without any issues!! FX!!!!


kittykatskumkwat Thu 25-Oct-12 08:21:08

Thanks pear and Nic, I have been short with her but she's so headstrong at the minute it frustrating and at 13 months you can't reason with them or explain, it's the food that's doing my head in, she'll love fish one day the next she spitting it out pretending to vomit and throwing it on the floor, it was rasberrys last night so I showed her her petit filou ( her dream food) and wouldn't let her have it till she ate a raspberry ( another food she likes but not yesterday) this resulted in screams until I refused to let her have it, battle of wills after I felt really bad but I'm so tired and hate this new scream she's developed!
Hope the midwife app goes well pear and the blood is quick and painless!
Last time my tiredness lasted till atleast 20wks, going worse after the first tri, I remember because I was working shifts and had to ask to finish at 8 and start earlier as I couldn't go til 10 then drive home etc sad

peardrop2 Thu 25-Oct-12 08:28:22

Oh kitty you shatter my first time pregnancy dreams grin I am gullible and believe very much hope that the 2nd trimester brings lots of good things including sleep, clear skin, less constipation and a shiney full head of hair...oh and a cute neat bump! Something tells me I'm in for a shock

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 08:30:12

Good luck today, Peardrop...I swear your dates move faster than mine though.

Crampy all day yesterday. No cramps today. Both worry me! My MW friend is currently being supportive but stern via text, which I need :-)

I don't do too bad with fluid intake. Forgot my fruit tea bag today though. Boo!

peardrop2 Thu 25-Oct-12 08:42:35

Thanks ladies!

MrsBri I feel like you've suddenly skipped ahead as I swear it was only yesterday that you because preggers! You're 5+ already!

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 08:47:34

I'm 5+5 today...found out 2 weeks ago! Not going fast for me. As yours isn't for you!

kittykatskumkwat Thu 25-Oct-12 09:05:07

Pear don't worry on the whole the second tri is the best, at 20 wks I was sleeping well, looked good had lovely thick hair etc, it's definatly a good time it's just more like mid way through then 13wks wink

kittykatskumkwat Thu 25-Oct-12 09:07:26

Oh but you may get some unwelcome surprises such as weeing a little if you sneeze etc, I though it was childbirth that did things like that but no it was pregnancy, shocked to say the least!

Start on your pelvic floor exercises now mrsbri

Lorelei353 Thu 25-Oct-12 10:00:39

Oh god. The dreaded headcold is hitting me. I can feel it. It's been working my way around my office and this morning I had a sore throat and a bit of a cold.

Mad thing is, with the general queasiness and the fact that I didn't sleep well last night, I'm finding it hard to tell what's wrong with me. Just feel shit. Gonna be a long day at work (if i last - I might go home sick later).

I've generally not been as nauseous the last few days but tiredness is worse. My DH thinks I'm mental but it's hard to explain how that fatigue wall just hits you!

I'm like you pear. I need to believe that at 12-13 weeks all this will just magically go away! smile. Hope your appt. goes well. Can't wait for my first (this day next week).

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 12:13:33

Oh god...my cramps are back again :-( Nobody told me it was permanently like being about to come on! My midwife friend had reassured me though, thank god. Knicker watch continues!

No headache though, yet.

How did it go, Pear?

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 12:15:33

Fx you feel better soon too, Lorilei.

Lorelei353 Thu 25-Oct-12 12:33:07

Thanks bri. Think I'm going to go home from work actually. I don't want to be loading up on paracetamol, which is what I'd usually do if I feel unwell.

I'm sure the cramps are nothing. As your friend says, it's normal. I feel occasional tugging pains and cramps but nothing's come of it. Also got it last night in bed turning over so I've joined that club now too!

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 12:47:32

Ooh...careful as you go turning over. It's a bugger when that gets you. I moved my feet under my desk yesterday and it got me then. :-/

I only seem to cramp at work. Could my chair / posture cause that do you think?

I'm a community midwife, Bri. In the states there are CPMs who do homebirth or birth center births and then CNMs who practice in the hospital. I'm studying to be a CPM smile

4 litres is great! Keep up the hydration.

Cramps are a good thing, means everything is stretching and growing! As long as they aren't super painful and aren't accompanied with bleeding you are good to grow!

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 16:55:16

Good luck :-) Fantastic vocation.

And not REALLY painful. Uncomfortable, yes...mild period pain type. And no bleeding. Very farty / burpy / hiccuppy still too. So lady like!

peardrop2 Thu 25-Oct-12 18:00:25

How's everyone doing this afternoon/evening?

I had my nurse and midwife appointment at lunchtime. The nurse was so lovely about my bloods. She got me to lie down and took two lots within seconds and had no problems! She did say that she used a fine needle though as my veins are thin but she didn't have any trouble at all. I had a lovely chat with her and she even told me about a good local breastfeeding cafe so it was worth seeing her just for that even though the thought of whipping my boobs out in public scares the life out of me. Sadly I can't say the same about my midwife. I'm not fond of her at all :-/ She didn't even ask me how I was feeling today and I had to keep telling her things on my own accord. I really wanted some help with the constipation and all she suggested was to go and see my doctor. I'm totally baffled as I thought she would be the one helping me with this. Anyway I won't be seeing her again until December so that's quite a while away. Apparently my bloods go off the hospital and then that helps them decide the risk of Down syndrome along with that neck measurement thingy. I'll be told the odds at the scan which I'm pleased about as I thought they sent out a letter with the results.

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 18:10:17

Hmmm...not my kind of bedside manner. Did she feel very dismissive? Not what you want :-/

At least the blood taking went well.

Good about the results being at the scan too. Though that's kind of nerve wracking as well.

You'll be at 12 weeks before you know it :-)

peardrop2 Thu 25-Oct-12 18:34:32

Very dismissive! Not personal at all :-/ Oh I hope the next two weeks go quicker. My mum did the wedding ring trick with my hair last night...we think it was going side to side meaning a boy lol All a bit of a laugh really!

hmm that is a shame pear IMO midwives are supposed to be lovely. And any failings in bedside manner are just not on.

So sorry to hear about your midwife experience, Pear. That's just rude. Are there any other midwives working in that office that you could go see?

Glad to hear that the blood draw was drama free for you smile I always feel horrible when I have to stick someone more than once!

Got to have a little baby fix today. I went to go visit one of my doula clients who had her baby in July. She asked like 3 times if I was going to have anymore kids so I had to tell her, it was so cool getting to tell a doula client! I can't wait to start feeling this little one move, it'll all start feeling so much more real.

peardrop2 Thu 25-Oct-12 22:22:52

Aww thanks ladies I thought it was a bit weird to have a low key experience with no questions! I have recently moved 15-20 from my current GP so I am now thinking of moving to my local GP that is a 5 min walk so I could actually push the pram to appts which would be v handy! I really like my current GP but now that I'm not very happy with the midwife it might be the best option for me to move and its probably safer/easier to be closer anyway when baby arrives!

MrsBri Thu 25-Oct-12 23:25:16

That's probably a very good plan, Pear.

Finally made it to bed after dozing on the sofa since 9. Productive evening!

Morning ladies.

MrsBri Fri 26-Oct-12 07:15:32

Morning Frustrated. :-) How are you?

I'm trapped on a train at Southport station due to a stuck train in front. It's thrilling! Moving soon though, apparently.

First midnight snack required last night. DH goes out on a Thursday night and when he got back we chatted for a bit. Then I couldn't settle to sleep. But a slice of toast and mug of fruit tea later = sleep. Lovely stuff. This may be the sign of things to come. :-)

Stuck train sounds a bit boring mrs but could possibly be more exciting than my day. i'm stuck in work for a thoroughly exciting training day. Oh joy of joys. However there is free food, so I may have to go and investigate. I shall follow my superhero super-smelling nose...

On the plus side I don't have to wear work clothes so am very comfortable.

Lorelei353 Fri 26-Oct-12 10:18:25

I think I'd prefer to be in work today than be feeling how I'm feeling. Bleurgh. Went home at lunch yesterday and feel pretty miserable today. No way I was going to work, especially since I'm trying not to take paracetamol unless I have to (I don't have a temperature or anything - just feel miserable/headcoldy).

I just really don't want to get worse. I haven't had my flu jab yet (hoping to get it at my GP appt. next Thurs) so taking it massively easy now.

Seems like I was worrying about the night out with my friends needlessly. The way I feel, I won't be going now anyway. sad

On the plus side, my nausea has really eased off in the last few days. Not gone completely but an awful lot better.

peardrop2 Fri 26-Oct-12 14:04:33

I would really like the next 3.5 hrs to go a little quicker!!!!!

MrsBri Fri 26-Oct-12 17:34:19

I'm so glad today is done with!

It's all very quiet on here recently...where's everyone gone? :-(

Lorelei353 Fri 26-Oct-12 17:50:28

Really quiet today bri. I've spent the day on the couch watching rubbish telly and sniffling.

How was everyone else's day?

It's been a bit "meh". I'm freaking myself out as I've been feeling completely fine today, which is a first in like 3 weeks and shame on me...have been searching Dr. Google for disappearing pregnancy symptoms. Bad idea.

So hard to not be anxious about this. It's frustrating that I trust so many other women's bodies to grow a healthy baby and to give birth the way nature intended and then I can't even have faith in my own uterus. sad

MrsBri Fri 26-Oct-12 18:31:05

Still feeling crap, Lorelei? :-( Fx you feel better soon.

Trumpets, it's only natural and I'm constantly scaring myself. Big un MN hugs to us all.

Right, up at 12:30 am my time eating yogurt and hoping that everyone is doing well. It's been very slow around here today!

kittykatskumkwat Sat 27-Oct-12 07:55:50

Rubish night for me, dd really bad teething even though she usually brilliant her big teeth are comming through top and bottom so I sent dh in with gel, he couldnt do it on his own apparently as he needed his phone in one hand! This is at midnight and I'm knackered! I go in, he's failed to notice her bed is soacked she's been sick etc, he is f in useless, we're not talking now! Happy weekend sad

MrsBri Sat 27-Oct-12 09:04:07

Bloody men, kitty. Hope everyone is feeling better today in your house.

I'm feeling very un pregnant right now. Apart from the sore boobs. Though the cramps I have tend to start when I've been up a while.

Have been feeling bloody hungry for hours though.

Can I fast forward to when I have a bump please?!

Morning. Ugh. Can I go back to bed please?

How is everybody today?

MrsBri Sat 27-Oct-12 17:16:02

Not too bad...still not feeling as pregnant, but there you go. Wondering if morning sickness is on the way now I'm at 6 weeks.
Went out for lunch, which was nice. Just watching TV under a blanket at the moment. Nice!

How are you feeling now, Frustrated?

Should have just stayed in bed this morning because it's been one of those days. I got bitten by a donkey and my youngest lay down in a pig pen. grin only in my world. Not feeling very pg today either. except for the gagging

MrsBri Sat 27-Oct-12 19:13:30

Bitten by a donkey? Not many people can say that!

Evil donkey it was too.

MrsBri Sat 27-Oct-12 19:28:53

Clearly, if it bit you!

I was only making a fuss of it. And the sod bit me. None of the other animals bit me. It obviously didnt like me.

MrsBri Sat 27-Oct-12 20:24:41

Then it's an ass. Ha ha! ;-p

Haha funny wink

Lorelei353 Sat 27-Oct-12 21:00:09

I've a friend who was attacked by a donkey once. It sounds funny but it was terrifying at the time. He was really going for her.

My head cold has really come out now but I feel better overall thankfully. The queasiness has stayed at lower levels too. My list of aversions is growing which is funny - yoghurt, apples, mangoes, dried fruit... Ugh.

Lore Yesterday I would have scoffed at the idea of someone being attacked by a donkey. Now I can quite well believe it.

Your food aversions sound good though lore I seem to have drink aversions. Tea, coffee, cola, squash, dr pepper, are all on my list. Currently okay with milk, rice milk, flat lemonade and water.

Lorelei353 Sat 27-Oct-12 21:24:43

Drink aversions is tough. At least there's plenty more I can eat. Mostly I want salty carbs

Salty carbs sounds good actually. Almost makes me feel hungry.

I usually live on caffeinated drinks. It's a nightmare, I've given up the high caffeine ones, which would be bareable if I could have the odd cola or coffee. It's just not fair. <sob sob> [pity party emoticon] grin but it must be for a reason. Maybe I need the calcium?

MrsBri Sat 27-Oct-12 21:42:07

I don't think I have aversions or cravings. I'm the most non-pregnant pregnant person ever!

Just wait mrs you'll soon hit the aversions. Then you'll feel --> envy (bleugh)

MrsBri Sat 27-Oct-12 22:02:20

I actually want some more symptoms like that! I'll feel more pregnant then :-)

Jojoba1986 Sun 28-Oct-12 00:00:50

I have aversions too... I can no longer have: all food, most drinks!

I manage one small meal a day now that I'm on drugs & can usually drink hot chocolate. I've also found that ice cold water with a frozen lemon wedge in is vaguely bearable if I drink it really quickly & lie down after! I seem to be awake when I should be sleeping & asleep about 14 hours during the day. Fed up of this now! DH took DS to a farm for the first time today. I feel like I'm missing out on so much at the moment! <Sigh> 4 weeks until I make a miraculous recovery & will be able enjoy the rest of the pregnancy!

Had a very long midwifery conference today that was agony. The meeting was a "potluck" (where everyone brings a dish to share for lunch) and the smells from random foods cooking in slow cookers was making me feel sososososo positively GREEN all day. The fun part was that I was sitting next to my midwife who saw me trying to keep my composure and she was very sweet and gave me back rubs. I love her.

The one drink that sounds fabulous all the time is sparking water. Love it. It could be the only thing I drink all day and I could be perfectly happy.

I ran into a fellow student midwife who is 13 weeks and she is measuring at 20 weeks. She said she started feeling flutters at 9 weeks and she's convinced it's twins! shock. She's also on her 3rd pregnancy (her boys are the exact same ages as mine) and this one was a total surprise. Imagine having twins! Oh my. She's having a scan next week to find out.

kittykatskumkwat Sun 28-Oct-12 07:06:19

Morning ladies, well I have a poorly dd, had my private scan yesterday and she threw up all over herself on the way! We had to go back home and dh look after her as I went on my own as it was too late to cancel, luckily it included a DVD so dh did get to see it anyway, lovely little 9 wk bean with heartbeat that did a little wiggle jiggle which the scan lady said was a really good sigh as it means the brains developing like it should and that the moving was what she saw as a better sign then hb?! Anyway was good poor dd not great So a poorly bubs to look after, I have had food aversions but it changes everyday, what I crave one day I think urg no the next!!
Don't worry about not feeling pregnant Nic, I think the main early pregnancy symptom until after 6wks is just hunger and paranoia!!
Sorry to hear about your donkey attack frus, that sounds really scarey and nasty!

Thundernonk Sun 28-Oct-12 08:45:10

Hi all. Thought I'd better poke my head onto the bus as MN forgot its a thread I'm on...

Hope everyone's ok with the food and drink aversions, tiredness, nausea, poorly children, not feeling pregnant enough and donkey bites x

MrsBri Sun 28-Oct-12 09:23:37

Poor you, trumpets, sounds like an uncomfortable day. Measuring 20 weeks at 13?! Let's hope it is only 2!

And poor you too, kitty, with your poorly DD, but yay for the wriggly bean scan! Hunger and paranoia sound about right, it has to be said.

I've still got cramping and I now have low back ache too. And some nausea, but nowhere near throwing up and seemingly linked to when I'm hungry.

And hi Thunder. Nice to see you...come back soon for a proper visit. Are you OK?

kittykatskumkwat Sun 28-Oct-12 09:32:43

Hi thunder (waves) yes I think that all sounds right Nic, I definatly had lower back ache first time, not had as many twinges this time but I presume that's because I've allready damaged by body beyond repair wink

MrsBri Sun 28-Oct-12 09:38:53

Ha ha, kitty, good to know that my body will break even more than it already is!

Do you think 9 weeks is a better scan time? I was thinking of going at 8 for mine. Impatient!

I have low back ache too mrs my back is dodgy anyway, so I'm hoping its not a sign of things to come, I can't be dealing with sciatica again. am getting cramps on and off, the stretchy ones, although I'm surprised there's any stretching left to do.

kittykatskumkwat Sun 28-Oct-12 10:01:29

Not sure Nic, you will be able to see a hb from 7 weeks definatly anyway so its whatever you like, obviously the longer you wait the more you see but if your like me you'll probably too impatient, I had one at 10wks with dd and it was double the size of 9 again and you could see even more

Thundernonk Sun 28-Oct-12 10:01:37

Yeah I'm fine thanks, up and down but waiting it out. Talking about symptoms doesn't really help me, so I'll just sit quietly at the back for a while.

<grabs bean bag, duvet, puppy and DVD>

MrsBri Sun 28-Oct-12 10:26:11

I'm glad you're OK, Thunder, I was concerned about you when you went missing.

My back is shot too, it has to be said, as are my knees. So I could be a total wreck come 40 weeks!

Think I'll stick to the 8 week plan if I can get an appointment then. I get paid on 6th, so will book it then.

Kind of exciting now!

I'm idly looking at other flats as we only have 2 bedrooms and no garden. 2 would be fine if we had somewhere else to dry washing, so we'll see what's around. Not that I feel like packing / moving, but it would be a good idea!

Lorelei353 Sun 28-Oct-12 11:32:51

Good morning. Feeling a bit low and totally fed up today. Getting bored of endless battle to fight off queasiness and cold seems to be worse again today. Annoyed with just feeling useless, having DH running around after me, feeling rubbish and missing out on fun things. I know I could be a lot worse (jojo I don't know how you're coping) but just having a 'poor me' day sad

Lorelei353 Sun 28-Oct-12 11:34:16

Good morning. Feeling a bit low and totally fed up today. Getting bored of endless battle to fight off queasiness and cold seems to be worse again today. Annoyed with just feeling useless, having DH running around after me, feeling rubbish and missing out on fun things. I know I could be a lot worse (jojo I don't know how you're coping) but just having a 'poor me' day sad

Lorelei353 Sun 28-Oct-12 11:35:05

Sorry. Double post because I got a message to say site was offline the first time. I really am useless today! hmm

peardrop2 Sun 28-Oct-12 16:20:01

Omg omg omg the in laws are about to arrive from the airport...eek! I've run around like a looney shopping for breakfast bits and making up the blow up bed, not too comfy to make them want to stay!! I have no idea how they will react to news today...eeeek wish me luck! I'm now going to catch up with everyone's news!!

Thundernonk Sun 28-Oct-12 16:24:59

Good luck pear! Let us know how it goes....soon!

peardrop2 Sun 28-Oct-12 16:27:48

Lor poor you :-( Give yourself a pat on the back for getting through a low day...I have them too so I think it's normal. I've not been I'll yet but it must be horrible with pregnancy so lots of sympathy going your way!

kitty yay for your scan news! Sorry you had to go solo but lovely that you have a DVD to show for it and I'm sure you've been smiling lots today to get you through looking after DD etc. hope she's feeling better!

Thunder glad to hear from you. Sometimes it is healthy to take a break from MN and it does get a bit much but hopefully we can still support you when you need it again!

Nicola has the cramping lessened? Exciting that you're browsing a possible move! Will you stick to the same area?

Hope everyone else is ok an wrapped up warm?

I'm really struggling with constipation this weekend so I've stocked up on raisins, dried apricots, grapes, figs and sunflower seeds...I'm ready to fight back this week :-) Although I have just demolished a cadburys nut bar to prepare for the inlaws arrival blush

peardrop2 Sun 28-Oct-12 16:30:48

Thanks Thunder I'll be sure to report back ;-) I told one of my sisters yesterday and she was really shocked. I was quite worried at first from her reaction but hopefully she will be ok. She said congrats but didn't ask me anything about my pregnancy and I didn't push it. She doesn't have a boyfriend yet but is 34 so I think it's hard to see her little sister move on.

MrsBri Sun 28-Oct-12 16:42:16

Hi Peardrop. Good luck with the in laws :-) And the constipation! Report back when the deed is done and tell us about the reaction.

Shame your sister seemed a bit luke warm about your news, but you could be right about the age thing hitting home a touch.

I am still cramping on and off, but not as much as before, thankfully. My back ache is taking precedence today! Bit queasy too, but that's reduced a bit in the last hour or so.

Yeah, we will stay around Southport. See what's around for the next few months. No immediate hurry as such. Get 12 weeks out of the way first, maybe.

Sorry some people are ill and down. Fx everyone feels better soon.

kittykatskumkwat Sun 28-Oct-12 16:45:30

Ohhh good luck pear, I'm sure hey will be thrilled! grin

peardrop2 Sun 28-Oct-12 17:57:09

So DH broke the news over tea! MIL is smiling like a Cheshire Cat and FIL says he doesn't want to be called Grandad. So all in all it didn't go too bad! MIL says she has no ms so maybe this baby has more of my DH genes? Hmm I wonder! I still really think its a boy!!

Thundernonk Sun 28-Oct-12 18:02:59

Ahh well done you two. Lovely news! Good responses too as I know you didn't quite know what to expect!

MrsBri Sun 28-Oct-12 18:06:55

Ah, that's great, Peardrop :-) Excellent news!

So excited for you pear! So exciting telling people smile

merrygiant Sun 28-Oct-12 18:39:04

Hiya guys, long time no post. Hope you've all been keeping well, I see there's been a few complaints and downsides-to-pregnancy but hopefully soon we will start to feel brighter and lighter (around the belly area, cos I've been feelign really bloated) who am I trying to kid, things are only gonna get worse waist-wise
Happily I've just finished another set of nights and don't have to do any more for at least two weeks. And I wasn't working during the clocks going back which is great cos its always so demoralising, when two becomes one!
No new symptoms to speak of this end, but I have had pear's pleasure of sharing the news. My mum and SD came down for a few hours on their way south on Friday and we told them. DM was very excited, but trying not to go over-the-top after last times disappointment. She says she has bought wool and is itching to get started but has been holding off until our 12w scan confirms all is well.

MrsBri Mon 29-Oct-12 07:06:13

Exciting being able to tell people, Merry. How on earth do you cope with nights while pregnant? Sounds really hard.

We aren't telling our parents until after the 12 week scan. Partly because some of his family would delight in me losing a baby, so I'm not putting myself in that position.

Boo to it being Monday again :-( Hurrah that I have Friday off though!

How is everyone today?

peardrop2 Mon 29-Oct-12 09:26:24

merry lovely that you also got to share your happy news. We only told my in laws because they're off travelling Europe again tomorrow so we won't see them until Christmas. We didn't think it was fair to tell them last and we didn't want to share the news over the phone as its their 1st grandchild. Feels more real now that they know!

I'm feeling really bloated today. I was really uncomfortable in the night so I am guessing things might be shifting around or it is constipation related -again!!

MrsBri Mon 29-Oct-12 10:02:44

I'm sharing your digestion woes, Peardrop...seriously trapped wind and constipation here too. :-/ I feel your pain.

Also fighting vomit. Weird kind of nausea. Not overwhelming, but quite insistent!

peardrop2 Mon 29-Oct-12 10:06:05

Oh no MrsBri!!! It's really unpleasant isn't it! I'm falling asleep and its 10am...this is not good! How I'm going to make it to 5:30pm is behond me!

I hope some of you are experiencing better things!

kittykatskumkwat Mon 29-Oct-12 10:25:37

Nope I still have that same well described sicky feeling Nic, not terrible but insistent all day, I've also got lots of spots on my forehead sad I'm thinking boy

MrsBri Mon 29-Oct-12 10:49:34

The only thing I like about nausea / constipation is they show we have the right hormones rattling round!

Weirdly not too tired yet. See how that goes!

peardrop2 Mon 29-Oct-12 11:23:10

Has anyone joined parenting group at Boots.com? I've been waiting ages for my pack with vouchers!

Morning. I'm having a CBA day today. Although I have played with dd and jelly and cream in a tub on the bathroom floor. Hoping dd will be calmer today because of it. I doubt it Finally had a letter from the council, and have some financial assistance with the rent. Yay.

Not been to boots.com yet pear

Must dig out the bumpf that the midwives sent prior to my appointment on Thursday. Now where exactly did I shove it in my last attempt to tidy?

9 weeks today.

Town in a bit to see what else I can get to play with dd with. and some candles for our pumpkins

Thundernonk Mon 29-Oct-12 12:07:51

Can I come and play with your dd today frus?

You certainly can thund she's currently in her buggy in the middle of town screaming and stripping and throwing items of clothing.

Thundernonk Mon 29-Oct-12 14:12:09

Oh dear, not good. The jelly sounded more fun...

Well tomorrow i'm pouring crispy cerials into a tub to sit her in, if you want to come for that? grin
I have loads more jelly made up, I could post it to you? <sniggers at thought of jelly in an envelope>

Bri exciting news that you're finally experiencing the nausea you've been waiting for wink. I think you've described it quite well. Mine has slightly changed so that I feel good from around 12-3 during the day. Anytime outside of those times I'm feeling absolutely horrible. Roll on 13 weeks when hopefully this is gone.

8 weeks today. Time is going slowly, but kind of crazy that I've known about the pregnancy for a full month now!

No new news really. Made up announcements to send out for Thanksgiving so that people will know. I figure since it's #3, it might just be more fun for people to find out through the mail smile. Is anyone announcing on Facebook? I kind of thinking of never putting it up there.....

MrsBri Mon 29-Oct-12 18:22:14

Kind of exciting. Not as bad as I thought it would be, but still time! It's the taste in my mouth driving me mad currently!

Lovely idea re Thanksgiving announcements :-) We may do the same at Christmas. Though I was half considering Facebook for a one off announcement to tell our friends all over the country / world, but then not again.

Is anyone else, who is between finding out and first scan finding it hard to believe? I'm just expecting to be told I got it wrong and it is a mistake! :-/

kittykatskumkwat Mon 29-Oct-12 20:04:57

Nic I was convinced when I was preggers with dd there was nothing in there! I think it goes through more people minds then not!
Midwife app for me tomorrow atlast, only 9 and a half weeks to get to first app shock
At some point I will get round to pm you my fb details, I want to see your photies, I love a good wedding me smile I didn't do the fb announcement last time and won't again although I did a birth announcement, some people hadn't known I was pregnant ha ha I just prefer to keep it to myself but dh did do one

MrsBri Mon 29-Oct-12 20:53:39

Awww, kitty, I'm glad you understand me and I'm not a total nut job! :-) Well, probably not!!

Hope your appointment goes well tomorrow. How exciting. Not heard about mine yet. Would hope to hear soon as I was referred a week ago tomorrow.

I need to change my name at the GP's this week, so may chase it up if I don't hear come Friday.

The sole reason I'll probably do an announcement is because of how widely spread our friends are. Just convenient!

I'll add you as soon as you PM me :-)

MrsBri Tue 30-Oct-12 07:04:13

Morning all! Hope everyone slept better than I did :-/

But so far the queasiness hasn't struck. Yet! See what happens now I'm on the train!

Anyone up to anything exciting today? Just dull old work for me.

Though the irritating gossiping bitch announced to my manager yesterday that she thinks I'm pregnant. Apparently I looked like I was heading to the loo to be sick...I only wanted a wee!

Really annoyed as she tore strips off someone for speculating about her friend, now she's doing the same to me. Hypocrite central. She's so thick she won't even link the two things though.

I don't want work to know until I've signed my training contract, so I really do not need gossip flying about. :-/

Rant over, sorry.

Thundernonk Tue 30-Oct-12 07:39:32

Hey nic. WTF about this gossip?! Who does that? Sounds like a spoilt child rather than an adult! I'm really shocked that soneone would do something like that. I hope your manager hit her in the face with a stapler

Jojoba1986 Tue 30-Oct-12 08:01:11

Morning everyone! I'm actually awake & feeling good! First time in at least 3 weeks! grin I haven't stood up yet so things could still go pear shaped!

Nic I also have people gossiping about me. At least 2 people came up to me within 24 hours to comment on the fact that I've been MIA due to illness & 'we were beginning to think you were pregnant'! I felt like telling them that if I was & wanted them to know then I would have told them & until the point that I decided to tell them it was none of their business! angry I settled for 'Oh, did you?' accompanied by a little laugh!

I saw both my GP & midwife yesterday! GP gave me some different tablets that should help with the dizziness, not that I've taken any yet! Midwife was covering sickness & couldn't do my BP due to a missing stethoscope & couldn't get any blood out of me because I was too dehydrated! I now have a nice hole in each arm & orders to get the nurse at the GP to poke more holes in me! sad

First day home alone with DS since Thursday & he's decided he only wants 1 sleep a day since then! Not sure how well I'm going to cope. We're discussing the idea of me & DS going to stay with my parents for a little while. Hopefully it won't come to that! smile

MrsBri Tue 30-Oct-12 08:25:43

Honestly, Thunder, she's the biggest, nastiest bitch / gossip going. I can't stand her.

My manager told her I was just coming down with a bug.

I'm quite pissed off though. Must keep calm thoughts!

Thundernonk Tue 30-Oct-12 09:19:28

Why is she doing it, just to stir up trouble? It must be obvious to everyone else that she acts like a child and they should never believe her?

MrsBri Tue 30-Oct-12 10:06:34

Because she has to be involved in and know everything.

She has some weird obsession about pregnancy and bangs on about it like she's an expert. She's never been pregnant.

And she's a bully as well as a bitch.

But lovely to those who matter who appear blind to her actual hideousness! :-/

Thundernonk Tue 30-Oct-12 10:17:15

It's very strange. She must be very insecure. Want me to have a word? I'd be intrigued to hear what she has to say for herself!

MrsBri Tue 30-Oct-12 11:20:16

Ooh...that would be ace! I have to bite my tongue as I have to work with her!

Thundernonk Tue 30-Oct-12 11:36:50

How do you think she'd react if someone at work took her to one side and kindly asked why she said things like that? Comments like hers fill me with horror- she has no idea what's going on in your life, you may have just found out you have fertility problems, you may have had a mc, you may have all sorts going on, and comments like that, borne out of her own problems, could cause so much upset and hurt. do you think she has any idea?

MrsBri Tue 30-Oct-12 11:52:47

She is thick, a gossip, a bitch and a bully. She hasn't got a clue.

Honestly, she is awful.

Do you have an iPhone? Perhaps you could ask Siri where to bury her body?
Seriously, I think she is being a bitch, is it a case of your job or hers? I don't get why she'd run straight to your boss, rather than just blab to other people in the office.
Why do there have to be such awful people in the world?

Haha Frus! where to bury her body seriously had me cracking up.

Bri I'm sorry you're having to deal with idiots like that on a daily basis. I guess I don't know the details of your job but I can't imagine pregnancy making a huge dent on your position there. Plus you haven't confirmed it with your manager so she really does not have a case against you at all. Kill her with kindness and just act like she has nothing on you (because she doesn't). Maybe she's jealous that you're getting to experience a pregnancy? If she's talking about it all the time, she's probably pining after the experience and wanting to have a baby herself!

On another note: I feel like such a witch today. So moody and everything is getting to me. Just the fact that my DH jumped in the shower before I got a chance to and then used the clean towel that I had grabbed for myself made my blood boil. angry Oiy, I just feel like a monster right now!

MrsBri Tue 30-Oct-12 15:53:44

She feels threatened by anyone who is good at their job. I am not a threat as I'm going to be a trainee solicitor in January, and she's a Legal Assistant.

She always tries to make others look bad and her look good. No such thing as team work here.

Ah well, just have to plod on!

And that's pregnancy for you, trumpets. I'm known as crampy and grumpy in our house.

And please somebody give me a constipation cure. Feel so backed up (TMI!).

Orange juice, and lots of it.

Failing that, prunes, dried apricots, baked beans, corn, any thing that is high in fibre.

Thundernonk Tue 30-Oct-12 16:11:18


MrsBri Tue 30-Oct-12 16:31:11

I may eat / drink them all. It hurts...I'm sure it's that as it is too high up to be baby pain!

Thundernonk Tue 30-Oct-12 16:35:05

I've had digestive problems on and off- stomach pain etc etc.

MrsBri Tue 30-Oct-12 17:03:27

Unpleasant, eh? :-(

Thundernonk Tue 30-Oct-12 17:09:58

Yeah most things thus far have been unpleasant! Just trying to think of bigger picture and not dwell on that side of things!

mrs you could casually say "you must work really hard because that can't come naturally" and when she asks what just add "your talent for bitching" smile sweetly and walk away. grin

thund how many liquorice dib dabs should I eat?

Thundernonk Tue 30-Oct-12 17:42:33

Ha! Love it, frus!

Can't stand liquorice myself, but I reckon you might want to go for some of the real stuff rather than the dip daps. If you do go for the latter however, I'll have some of the sherbet for you.