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November 2012 - lots of babies that can't wait for November

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StuntNun Tue 16-Oct-12 18:59:27
ValiumQueen Tue 16-Oct-12 19:04:43


TheDetective Tue 16-Oct-12 19:05:51


ValiumQueen Tue 16-Oct-12 19:18:42

detective have you had one?

TheDetective Tue 16-Oct-12 19:22:40

LMAO! Yeah, 10 years ago grin

I was playing word association! Shiny show! Do you remember this?! It was on when DS was little! He I loved it!

MissMummy1 Tue 16-Oct-12 19:24:45

<promises not to fill this thread up with all my crap chat> grin

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Tue 16-Oct-12 19:26:20

Wow, another new thread! Marking place, going to catch up on today!

ValiumQueen Tue 16-Oct-12 19:38:45

Never heard of shiny show. I was going through my drunken slutty phase then!

DebussyHead Tue 16-Oct-12 20:05:31

Just catching up on last couple of days. Wonder how GT is...

YellowWellies Tue 16-Oct-12 20:55:02

Guarantees filling up this thread with my crap chat (you ladies' are keeping me sane at work...)

ShellyBobbs Tue 16-Oct-12 21:17:54

Detective, Give yourself a shinnnneeeeyyyy! Eeny meany miney mo it's time to play the shiney show. That was one that I could watch, was that 2000 or 2002, can't remember which one of mine used to be glued to it?

ShellyBobbs Tue 16-Oct-12 21:18:59

*You have to pronounce the e in shineeey, it's not a typo smile

TheDetective Tue 16-Oct-12 21:23:44

2002 I believe grin

Well, that is when DS was born anyway!

Wonder what delights are in store this time around wink

ShellyBobbs Tue 16-Oct-12 21:30:39

Yes that's it, my lad was born then. I dread to think! My first was born when Cbeebies started up, now that was murder. I really thought I'd passed all that rubbish, I have felt very smug over the last few years when I couldn't name one character from In the night Garden......

kirrinIsland Tue 16-Oct-12 21:34:14

Marking place

NervousAt20 Tue 16-Oct-12 23:26:01

Marking place

Lilliana Wed 17-Oct-12 07:29:37

Morning everyone - I have managed to sleep the whole night on one side! No waking up to turn myself over due to hurting hips and feel much better. It was Dh who woke me up needing the loo last night grin Maybe the lavender bath before bed is finally helping.

Congratulations GT so glad your little boy is here. No advice re breast feeding but keep on at the mw/hv until you get the support you need.

We are due a month today - where has the time gone?

smile <marking place>

Brockle Wed 17-Oct-12 07:53:12

hello shiny new thread. Mainly lurking at the mo as have nothing positive/constructive to say!

Marking place.

StuntNun Wed 17-Oct-12 08:17:04

Woo the old thread is finished!

Iheartpasties Wed 17-Oct-12 08:19:20

stunt you beat me to the last post!! argh!!!

Where is catbag? how are you getting on my lovely?

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 17-Oct-12 08:26:29

I remember the Shiney Show!!grin

Stunt I had the Bonfire Night/Northern Ireland discussion with DH the other day and though I am sure that Newcastle do something, I might start my own next year, so you can come if you like!

blonderthanred Wed 17-Oct-12 09:04:49

Wow new thread! How many babies do you think it will bring? Will this be the one where I meet mine... Could well be!

Brockle Wed 17-Oct-12 09:05:06

I loved the Shiny Show. DS1 used to walk around the house yelling "shiney!". I love cbeebies, especially Chris and Poy, but then I don't get out much..

Chunkychicken Wed 17-Oct-12 09:09:02

Think bump seems lower today (which means nothing with #2 I know!!) and having LOADS of BH but nothing really painful. Only 35wks so need baby to hold on for another couple of wks at least, especially as I have a wedding a week on Sat and have bought a dress for it!! grin Plus, I went to the hen do a week & a half ago so want to go to the wedding. smile

GT hope you see this!! Congratulations on your baby boy. smile Breastfeeding is tricky at first, but so worth it in the end. My RL friend had inverted nipples & she successfully breastfed so it can be done. Her nipples are not as inverted now either apparently grin but I think she used shields & other latch aids to begin with.

My top tips;
1) get expert help. Phone La Leche League or go to a breastfeeding support group at your local sure start/childrens centre or ask your HV/MW to give you contact details for the breastfeeding support nurse or peer supporter. They can offer specific advice, check the latch etc.
2) drink lots
3) get lots of skin to skin so baby gets used to rooting around for your nipple etc and feels comforted etc
4) your milk can take a few days to come in - 4 days is average, but c-sections & induction can sometimes delay it slightly because your body hasn't had the spontaneous flux of hormones required to get things going. The key to stimulating supply is baby suckling. So get him latched on as often as possible, especially at night, as this is when milk production really gets going. In the meantime, colostrum really is 'liquid gold'.
5) use a good quality nipple cream. Even with a good latch, it can be uncomfortable. Lanisoh is usually recommended, but I like Multi-Mam balm (available in Boots) as its a really easily absorbed gel, made from plant extracts. Provided immediate relief for me when DD was feeding.
6) it is quite tough to start with but it is SO worth it & SO much easier than washing & sterilising 6-8 bottles a day IMO!!! If you want to succeed, you can. There are actually very few woman who can't, its just about getting help when you need it.
7) check out Facebook groups - there is a group local to me that is run by peer supporters & is a fantastic resource.
8) if you really, really can't get on with it (2wks is when it started to get easier for me, but lots say 3wks is a turning point) then formula isn't poison, its just an expensive man-made alternative. Just be content with your choice & it'll be fine.

Sorry if I sound preachy, hope that helps!!! Good luck smile

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 09:10:34

Congrats GT. Can't wait to hear what you call him and read your birth story x

I had the worst night ever. Went to be about half 9 in the spare room. Woke up an hour later with awful braxton hicks, convinced myself I was in labour then spent the rest of the night (I mean literally till 6am) projectile vomiting - tmi? The last time I was that sick all at once with no warning I was a fresher and had drunk an entire bottle of tequila! DH quite freaked out, but has buggered off to work anyway leaving me a bucket and a bottle of water. I feel like shit. At least the bh stopped.... Don't think the pizza was to blame, but it's put me right off having it again! Woe is me... sad

GTbaby Wed 17-Oct-12 09:24:09

Omg. Lady who was on phone at 5am. Followed on by her alarm goin off at 7am when she was in shower. So went off for ages. N now is on phone again. Argh. She has such an annoying voice! Like a little kid. angry

On another angry note. Just asked mw if they have breast feeding support. N have been told no one is currently in post sad. Felt bad for mw as she said she hopes she can help me but is very busy, to pls complain to the hospital, as the more ladies who complain means they might sort it out. Ok so aim for today is lots of skin to skin.

ShellyBobbs Wed 17-Oct-12 09:29:05

Blimey, that's rubbish GT! Next time that woman goes to the toilet, hide her phone and switch it off grrrrrrrrrr, it's so ignorant......

My day of doing 'at least something' may be on the back burner, I feel sick as a pig <knew this would happen, damn me and my big mouth!>

Brockle Wed 17-Oct-12 09:30:32

congratulations GT I am so glad you got there in the end and cannot wait to hear the name you come up with smile I second lots of skin to skin and keep trying. Babies are tend to be sleepy on that first day so today is a good day to persist. Student MW's are often very clued up on BFing if there are any about. They were a godsend with DS1.

Congrats gt on your baby boy!

35 weeks and starting to get veeery fed up. Have my WC jab today aswell.

Iheartpasties Wed 17-Oct-12 09:35:15

mm1 oh no, thats ounds awful, can you have a friend or your mum over to hold your hand today, you need to rest up and relax and try and feel better. being sick all night long sounds awful awful awful. bless you.

gt its sad that they have to ask you to complain. there is good advice on here though smile

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 17-Oct-12 09:36:25

Big hugs gt. Good plan for the day.

And for you mm, hope you feel better later. It must have been the excess of miniature heroes!

And you too Tits another day chilling.

Well I might join you all. A bit of dioreaha this morning, followed by shooting pains in my fanjo and a massive hot flush. Have loads of stuff and feeling a bit OCD, to do but just would like to fall asleep.

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 09:37:29

My mums on holiday. Back tonight. Dh is phoning every hour and I've taken today off work so will just veg and feel sorry for myself. Yuck yuck yuck sad

Congratulations GT smile Would love to see a pic when you are home and settled. Persevere with the bf, I know a lot of people who have struggled with it the first few days but then managed to do it successfully.

DP's day off today so we are both lazing around the house. Need to go food shopping so may venture out in a bit then might go to visit my grandparents this afternoon. Not seen them for a while as I was working up til Friday and then by the time I came home and at weekends I was too knackered to go anywhere. Must make an effort.

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 09:41:21

38 weeks tomorrow!!!! Still feeling fine, in fact feeling less huge, hormonal and pregnant as the days off work progress?! How bizarre?!

In the kitchens today and tonight. Need to swap my blinds. Might Hoover out my car too!! That would be a miracle lol!!

Iheartpasties Wed 17-Oct-12 09:41:50

gosh vomit and diarrhea, pregnancy is ALL GLAMOUR smile smile

SwissArmyWife Wed 17-Oct-12 09:44:27

GT Congratulations on the arrival of your baby boy! Hope you can get the bf established soon.

Well nothing has happened here, did initially think I was having contractions but now realise it must justbe his head engaging, which is a pain as I can barely do anything now, but a relief that he isn't on his way just yet!

Come on catbag it's your turn now!!

StuntNun Wed 17-Oct-12 09:51:58

Pasties ha ha, beat you to it grin

Sophia I'm coming. I'll bring sparklers and toffee apples and treacle toffee (but I'm secretly a bit scared of fireworks.)

GT hopefully you can keep your baby snuggled close to you (if your stitches aren't too sore) and figure it out together. It isn't rocket science, it just takes a bit of practice for both of you. There must be a midwife who can give you a bit of help ffs at least one of them must have breastfed before or been on a training course. You could even ask one of the other women on the ward for advice. But there's loads of stuff in the Internet and ask on MN. Kellymom is a good site too. I was very surprised they had you bottle feeding so soon, they let me have a day of trying to breastfeed DS1 before they started talking about a bottle. They were pissed off when I insisted on expressing and feeding him with a syringe so he wouldn't get nipple confusion! But I have reasons of my own for exclusively breastfeeding so there was no other option for me. Btw I fed DS1 using nipple shields exclusively for four months then supplemented with one bottle of formula a day from four to eight months. So they are an option if you continue to have problems getting the support you need.

I am still grumpy today and fed up with my DS1's misbehaviour, I really think he should know better at nearly ten. I can't go into the details but there was a sudden and unexpected death in the family yesterday and I'm obviously a bit upset. I won't be able to go to the funeral as it would mean a flight or ferry and I'm 37 weeks tomorrow, I can't see the doctor saying I'm fit to fly once he sees my notes, and I wouldn't really want to risk having the baby over in Scotland and having to travel back with a newborn.

So today I'm going to let the nesting run riot and get the house spotless until approximately five seconds after DH/DS1/DS2 walk through the door. I must be having a bad day, I gave the dog and cat a tin of tuna between them for breakfast! But first I'm going to eat my emergency Minstrels supply.

Iheartpasties Wed 17-Oct-12 09:58:59

stunt sorry to hear about a death in the family. so sad.

Minstrels? I would swim back to the uk to get some !!!

Elizadoesdolittle Wed 17-Oct-12 10:02:04

Huge congratulations gt some great advice given re feeding and I just echo others sentiments in that it will get easier so please don't give up. Having said that, if it doesn't work out you're not a failure so don't give yourself a hard time.

Am currently at bluewater enjoying a coffee before I hit the shops. DD is at nursery and my in laws are picking her up so I can shop at my leisurely pace. Need new shoes for bil wedding in a couple of weeks. Figure that since i will look like a blob I may as well have pretty feet!

Iheartpasties Wed 17-Oct-12 10:05:56

oh eliza yes! treat yourself to new shoes, my feet are like big fat pasties atm!! smile

Lane81 Wed 17-Oct-12 10:12:56

Congratulations on your baby boy gt! Hope you manage to start feeding soon, I'm sure all us first-timers will experience problems at first, but hopefully we'll get there-it's good to read about your experience to prepare!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 10:24:50

I'm exhausted now. Grrrr. I will not nap all day again. I need some sleeping pattern back again!

I've just done some hoovering (DP will be pleased!) and had my second breakfast of the day!

I've also cleaned the floor where my darling dog decided to do a great big turd this morning hmm. She really isn't herself at the moment. Between jumping in the shower with me, and getting on the beds when we DP isn't looking, I don't know what has come over her! She must be a little unsettled. I suspect she hasn't been walked enough lately due to various things. I can't take her myself either at the moment due to the stupid foot!!

ComradeJing Wed 17-Oct-12 10:35:30

Marking my place smile

Iheartpasties Wed 17-Oct-12 10:38:41

detective dog turd on the floor, yummo.

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 10:44:06

Get well soon MM that sounds awful sad I hate being sick. Just make sure you keep drinking lots of fluids xxxx

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 10:50:48

detective she probably senses something is going on. My parents dog was extremely sensitive and would be physically unwell if something was impending.

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 10:53:25

I hope nothing is impending! Not til after 28th... <crosses legs and stitches fanjo>

I'm still fighting the urge to go back to bed!!!

eliza I want to go to bluewater it's only a 45min drive from me.
I'm hoping to go there on dec 27th for the sales.

ShellyBobbs Wed 17-Oct-12 11:13:14

(To be muttered in a Boyce voice) Just ordered the old 'Clary Sage'.

Funnily enough I'm 37 weeks on Saturday wink, the pineapple shagging fest starts this weekend!

ShellyBobbs Wed 17-Oct-12 11:13:48

Am also currently bouncing on my ball whilst trying to knit.

PetiteRaleuse Wed 17-Oct-12 11:15:14

Hi everyone, I found out yesterday that my elcs is being brought forward to this Friday! I'll be admitted tomorrow afternoon and hope to be home early next week if all goes to plan. Trying to get my head round packing and spending one last day on my own with dd1..

Hoping the wifi at the hospital works so I can MN when baby asleep etc.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Wed 17-Oct-12 11:17:35

Congrats GT and hope you get some BF support soon.

ShellyBobbs Wed 17-Oct-12 11:18:36

Another Friday baby! Will there be any left for November? Petite I'm well jealous grin

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 11:19:18

Oooh you've just reminded me Shelly for those of us having home births, what 'essentials' do you have!

My list so far is, 3 shower curtains, pack of inco pads, candles, bottled water, bananas, boiled sweets, lavender oil and clary sage oil, oil burner, birthing ball, new bucket, new hose, and a pile of old towels!

I'm hoping I have everything, but sure I've not thought of something! I've not been at a HB for years, so can't remember what else to have that would be useful! Oh, tea and coffee and cake for me the poor midwives who get to rock up at my gaff grin

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 11:20:53

Most of that list is of course only of use if you are having a pool!

I see no need for a bucket and hose otherwise grin well, not unless you are extreme nesting in labour!

PetiteRaleuse Wed 17-Oct-12 11:20:58

Don't be jealous I'm dreading it. No reason to, loved the last section, just stressing out slightly.

Another baby on fri! I want to see pics on the fb group ladies!!

shelley I don't advise shagging a pineapple grin

I've just thought, if I have an induction does that mean I can't have her at the midwife unit? Do I have to be in the main hospital?

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 11:27:38

It depends DH every hospital is different in terms of policy etc, but I'd say it's unlikely. An induction means you become high risk, and most Trusts policy is that you will be advised told to have continuous monitoring in active labour. Most midwifery led units won't have the facility for this. Best to check with them directly though as I say, every unit has their own policy/guidelines.

LittleLolly Wed 17-Oct-12 11:29:19

Congratulations GT, hope the breastfeeding gets easier. Looking forward to the name announcement smile

Wow, nervous and PR two more babies arriving on Friday! You will be having lovely new baby cuddles in 2 days!

Hope you feel better soon MM

stunt hope you are ok, sorry to hear about death in your family.

Well, I am 38+2 now. Blood pressure was fine at midwife appt this week so hopefully last week was just a blip. Fundal height is still measuring above 90th centile (arghh, he's going to be huge!) so midwife said I might be induced at 40+10 rather than 40+12. Sweep at 40 weeks. But let's hope this baby decides to appear on his own tonight if possible. Having lots of BH and head is engaged but I know that means nothing. The anticipation of knowing it could be any moment, any day is so hard!!

LittleLolly Wed 17-Oct-12 11:31:55

DH policy at my hospital is if you are induced with first pessary only and that starts your labour, you can still go on MLU. Anything after that means labour ward.

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 11:40:46

Lolly I'm measuring massive by fundal height but our regular growth scans show that junior is only 50th centile - it could just be fluid or positioning that is making him seem huge? A big bump isn't always a big baby.

shanelle5 Wed 17-Oct-12 11:48:30

Had my acupuncture- it bloody hurt! shock it felt likt electric shocks and as though I had hit my funny bone iykwim.
Anyway, gone now, 2nd session Friday which Im not looking forward to especially as im rather hmm that it works.
detective I dont have anything more than you for my home birth so cant add to your list but can I ask what you will be using the lavender and Clary for? Is it to go in a burner or in the bath? or neither smile
I keep eyeing up my gas and air cannisters nervously...

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 11:50:41

DH I thought you were having a section on Friday? I am getting confused. Must be my age.

Why are they bringing your date forward petite ? I wish they would bring mine forward. Rotten they are admitting you the day before too! Can you not stay home and go in early? I have to be there for 8.30am. 8 more sleeps.

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 11:53:27

Sorry DH getting you mixed up with nervous I think!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 11:55:16

Both Shanelle, although the Lavender is more for both now, as well as labour. Going to use it in the bath for relaxing grin and then burn in labour. Clary sage is for labour, and going to use it on a cloth for sniffing to help contractions if needed!

ShellyBobbs Wed 17-Oct-12 12:03:25

Detective Uuuurrrmmmm, just what got delivered yesterday plus a shower curtain blush. All the towels are old Asda rubbish anyway so not fussed about using any special ones and there is water in the tap grin I'm a massive tea drinker and triple up the usual quantity in labour so that's all I'm bothered about. I'm not into candles or whale music or anything, I just like peace and quiet and a nice cup of tea, that'll do me.

I do intend to buy a pack of Pampers bed mats for the floor, but I bet I don't. I am too laid back for my own liking though, even my eldest offered to pack me an 'emergency transfer bag' as she thinks my Asda carrier bag with a pack of sanitary towels, nipple pads and pack of white knickers is not good enough!

ShellyBobbs Wed 17-Oct-12 12:04:54

Ooohhh and I think I'm a bit too overexcited about my light shades that have just arrived from House of Fraser, they are uber chic and very classy and £25 off each shade was the second true bargain of the year for me.

ShellyBobbs Wed 17-Oct-12 12:06:26

My kids love the lavender now, they have sprinkled it all over their beds grin

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 12:10:16

Not in to whale music either grin but the candles are because I can't stand the bright light of the dining room, and you can guarantee that the bulb in the lamp will blow (and the fuse!) at the worst moment grrrr! So the candles are more for my piece of mind that I don't have to have the big light on!!

I got new towels recently, so just put away the others for labour! And they are purple. Will hide all sins!

I've not got anything packed. DP will be dispatched with instructions should the need arise!

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 12:20:45

shelly what was the first bargain of the year?

Just died of embarrassment. Opened the door thinking it was the postman, to be faced with a doctor (male, young, cute) from work. Really wish I had put a bra on today. At least I was dressed. His wife is due on the same day as me, so I am sure he understands. He was dropping off the contents of my desk and was very apologetic. He said he just 'packed it all'. Sanitary towels, sun glasses, pay slips, the usual shite. Very embarrassing indeed, but sweet of him.

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 12:20:50

I am now going to take a 6 hour shower. Because I can!

Let the grooming commence!

I shall be a prune for the rest of the day!

Chunkychicken Wed 17-Oct-12 12:23:25

Thanks for the HB kit list!! smile Will be ordering my birth pool in a box soon, but have bought some £1 shower curtains already. Haven't bought new towels, but will just use some old dark red bath sheets I think. Could put them in the tumble dryer so they're all soft & fluffy, maybe even time it so they're warm... Not going to bother with burners or candles, but will prob borrow my mum's relaxation CDs for background music, as I don't think I could focus on breathing if I was singing along to Dolly Parton or something. grin

shanelle5 Wed 17-Oct-12 12:32:59

chunky where did you get the £1 shower curtains from please? I need some smile

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 12:33:48

Pound shop!

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 12:34:29

Sounds awesome detective! I might do the same later.

petite I can understand your nerves. Friday is going to be a very exciting and nerve wracking day!

I am still in my jammies - all be it with a jumper over the top. I have never been a jammies all day kind of girl but I wonder if I might manage it today. Yesterday was very weird. I went into town and had such strong Braxton Hicks that I could barely walk. I caught a couple of people giving me concerned looks. I then went to yoga and must have made such a racket plodding up the stairs that the yoga teacher looked really concerned. I had a very lazy evening watching DH put together all the nursery furniture. I went to bed late (for me) but barely slept until about 4. I feel happier in myself today but I think I should take the hint and make the most of the peace I have.

I might go to Aldi later to get dishwasher tablets - we do still have two though so that job could wait until tomorrow grin

As it is raining I feel less weird about just parking my arse and reading my book.

One job I must do is turn off the dashed telly as Loose Women is on and it's like watching my Aunties after too much Chardonnay

daisychain76 Wed 17-Oct-12 12:39:43

Pass come dine with me is on channel 4. Brockle l had a crush on CBeebied Chris for years ~ have since realised it was fairly hopeless!

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 12:44:59

Thanking you daisy! I turned over to a CSI: NY but I am considering treating myself to the Great British Bake Off while bouncing on my ball.

This would mean dislodging the cat though. Hmm

Brockle Wed 17-Oct-12 12:52:30

I can safely say that never entered my head daisy grin although I quite like Sid and I do have a bit of a crush on Rich the drummer from Imagination Movers on Disney Junior. You see this is the reason I should get out more.

I am feeling baby hiccuping around my belly button. Do we think DS3 is up or down??

Oh dear I managed to lay on my bed for '5 minutes' ... I've just woken up! grin

Chunkychicken Wed 17-Oct-12 12:57:34

Indeed VQ/shanelle - Poundland.

Counting the days until maternity leave. 2 days to go!!!

Currently trying to persuade DD to go for a nice early nap so I can tackle the housework without my hard work being destroyed before I've even started...

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 13:02:30

tits sounds much like my 'just 5 minutes more'

Iheartpasties Wed 17-Oct-12 13:03:07

I'm off to bed in 5 mins. Just savoring some peace. DH is in such a grumpy mood and I cant be bothered with him! He's v v v ill with a cold!! men!! Its the same damn cold I had the week before he got it, and he can take as many pills as he wants!! and suck on strepsils etc etc very annoying. You would think he was at deaths door. "I feel worse today" thats what he said when he got home from work. anyway - rant over.

two babies on friday - how exciting!! I'm hoping for a halloween baby FINGERS CROSSED!!

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 13:04:23

Hmm. Just been browsing threads and come across one which asks about brownish green discharge. I have had this in tiny amounts for the last few days and thought nothing of it. Ladies on there reckon it could be meconium.

Off to call maternity triage

Iheartpasties Wed 17-Oct-12 13:08:41

pass! yes you are best to do that! It does sound like meconium. Fingers crossed for you.

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 13:17:06

Called triage. Midwife was very nice but not at all concerned. It is normal white discharge with tiny flecks of brown. She is certain it is old blood. I will wear a pad for the next few days to monitor it. I am sitting here with an alien tummy as limbs get shoved around so it doesn't feel like there is a problem.

Midwife told me that leaking meconium was likely to be in quite high amounts and a dark sludgy brown.

Glad I called though.

Still not moved off the sofa . . . Might force myself to go for a shower.

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 13:18:02

Oh and thanks pasties. You should definitely go to bed now. Man flu I exhausting for all concerned!!

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 13:18:37

Oh heck pass good luck with that x

Your description of 'Loose Women' is the best ever. 'Like my Aunties on too much chardonnay'. grin

It was the moustache cam on This Morning which made me get off my fat arse and turn the TV off and put R4 on. I'm not getting sucked into Come Dine with me Again on 4 as by the time you know it - (as they play them back to back) it's 5pm and I've got nowt done.

Am meant to be 'working from home' but have hoovered, put a wash on, tried to clean the Rayburn soot off everything (those with gas central heating - I envy you!) my feet were black from wandering barefoot on our floorboards in front of the Rayburn blush, tidied up after DH's 'just got in the door will drop everything in my pockets in random piles round the house' and his 'read my post will just leave it here' spots.... Ferrrcrissakes. I'm a slattern about cleanliness but I hate an untidy house. I'm like Jennifer Saunders in ab fab.... 'surfaces darling'!!!!

Lots more babies on the way how exciting. Am convinced that this one (due 19th Nov) will just scrape in and be a December baby. I'll be going mad by then....

I'm still in fluffy jamas

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 13:20:24

Ahhh lovely news Pass. I need to go and have a soak in the bath... but am being so lazy. Done the washing up now too. Just need to prepare tea for later and then I might get on with some tapestry weaving or reading - both hobbies I'll never get a chance for come a month's time...

PetiteRaleuse Wed 17-Oct-12 13:21:29

valium they're bringing it forward as I have a couple of hernias, slightly raised blood pressure and also at yesterday's monitoring my braxtons were measuring every 5 minutes and very strong. Dr thinks I may not last another week ( he does his planned sections on Fridays) and doesn't want to risk an emergency. He has some bad memories of dd1's birth and aftermath from last year so am being treated a little like a china doll this time round smile

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 13:25:54

Oh blimey do I have sympathy with the random piles issue. Wallet gets emptied of receipts and such like and the pile just lies there. It would lie there forever if I didn't periodically try to sort through it.

Must, must have a wash. I smell.

StuntNun Wed 17-Oct-12 13:30:22

YW beg to differ but I have two lovely tapestries I did when DS1 was newborn. It's best to sleep when they sleep but sometimes you can't sleep and it's much better to do something quiet and relaxing than rush round trying to do housework as you need your rest too.

Nesting is going slowly sad downstairs is done but I still have upstairs, ironing and saxophone practice to do before collecting the boys from school at 3.

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 13:32:37

Makes sense petite all the very best.

PetiteRaleuse Wed 17-Oct-12 13:38:59

Thank you smile

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 17-Oct-12 13:39:25

pass keep your eye on that. Although reassuring that LO is wiggling around.

Piles do my head in too. (both kinds ) dH has left a pile of work papers by the toaster. I refuse to move them. I have asked him if they need to be shredded. I will put them in the recycling soon and he will be in trouble for confidentiality, or lack of it.

Have just had a lie down with my hypnobirthing cd and got up feeling rubbish, all lethargic and poo. Want to go back to sleep again. Although it does seem to have alleviated my BH.

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 13:44:37

Woo stunt that's good to hear - I went to a class with my favourite weaver this summer (Joan Baxter) and go to a weaving group every wednesday night with a local weaver Ros Bryant up here (you need indoor hobbies for the horrific winters up here). It's something that really chills me out - though am finding I am sitting further and further away from my frame as the bump grows! Ros is convinced my waters are going to break in her studio but assures me that unlike M&S she doesn't offer vouchers just a mop if that happens!

I had been very sad to mentally write off weaving as a post birth hobby but I'm all inspired now. Ta!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 13:46:35

Random piles.... made me giggle! grin How childish of me!

I was in the shower for an hour....! However, I have some words of wisdom to pass on. Don't try and sit down in the shower when you have not washed off the massage lotion from the night before blush. Pregnant ladies sure can slide around in a rather unlady like fashion!!

Also, if you are intending to defluff, at least have the common sense to not go in blind. Note to self: wear contact lenses next time. Still, the pits and legs are done. Fanjo will have to wait. Am quite hoping that I won't have to repeat the torture that is shaving legs while pregnant for much longer!

I will also share with you something which I am quite sure is peculiar to the pregnant me! Well, I've never had a woman tell me the same, nor did I find this out in my midwifery training as a common pregnancy thing grin. But please enlighten me if others have had the same!

My nipples just rubbed off all the brown skin layer, and are now a lighter shade of brown! Not pre-pregnancy shade, but much lighter than they were! This happened first time around, also after a bath. I know I was over 36 weeks that time too as it happened in my first house, which I only moved in to after that gestation. I can't remember exactly what gestation I was though.

It was as if a rubber had been taken to my nipple, little bits just erased away! I now have lovely shiny new non bumpy nipples! Ta-dah!


YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 13:51:22

Some of the colouration of my nips rubs off after a bath too! I thought I was going mad - again this has only happened when preggo! First time it happened I thought 'you dirty cow how have you managed to get Rayburn soot on your nips!!!' have now realised it is pigmented skin....

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 13:51:40

I really really really want a nap now. But I've got wet hair, and just put my contact lenses in.


TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 13:52:44

YES! Thank you YW! I thought it was just me! Definitely never heard anyone else describe the same before!

I'm rather liking the shiny new ones haha!!!!

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 14:00:49

Just woken up, DH got my mum to phone and check up on me as he apparently doesn't believe me when i say i'm fine hmm. Still feeling shit but touchwood have stopped throwing up now. And I've had some sleep. I'm like a big child, I hate being ill and wish someone would just come and pander to my every demand look after me! sad Ho hum, soak in the bath before I tackle the washing. I vaguely remember crying last night because I was sick on my favourite jammies blush.

How exciting petite - all the best for friday x

I'm really tempted to jump in the shower for a nip scrub now blush I'm slightly envy of your shiny new ones, mine are really dark brown, like chocolate! blush

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 14:01:46

<<wonders how often detective and YW shower>> grin

My nips are so covered in milk, proper crusty like when I shower.

Mine get the very odd drop of milk now and again but apart from that are quite mediocre an boring..

I feel I should perform some amazing nipple based trick now. wink

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 14:07:55

I still don't leak grin but have plenty of colostrum there, if anyone wants it.

Tits you need to live up to your name!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 14:09:41

Mine were like chocolate about an hour ago! Now they are like tea!

Baby is going absolutely nuts. Wonder what it is trying to tell me? My right hip sure is taking a thumping. While its bum pushes out under my ribs. Evil child.

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 14:16:01

I can take a hint VQ am going to have this cuppa in the bath. DH is at work and won't be able to pull me out - hope I don't get stuck... we've got a clawfoot tub and the sides are really high... If you don't hear from me in an hour call the fire brigade grin

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 14:16:35

Oh my word, I just saw a flash, followed by a massive bang! Hello thunderstorm!

Even more reason for a nap?!

WaitingForMe Wed 17-Oct-12 14:37:04

Damnit I want shiny new nipples! Mine are horrifyingly huge and blotchy brown.

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 14:39:42

I have had a reply from the head of midwifery... I had already dealt with the issue last week by talking to a different supervisor of midwives, but I thought I should let you know the response to my stroppy email grin I've c&p'd the important bit! I am now at peace!

"we are fully supportive of your choice for a home-birth which is demonstrated by the fact that xxxxx Maternity services offer a 24 hour home-birth service which is supported by a midwife on-call system. This enables 2 midwives to be on-call between the hours of 5.00pm to 9.00am every night. As with any services, which you and Matron discussed, there may be on the rare occasion situations which may limit that service. That is the Midwives may already be in attendance to another home-birth or due to extra-ordinary circumstances within the Maternity Unit such as the workload exceeds that of the number of Midwives in attendance then the on-call Midwives can be asked to attend the unit. However both these incidents described are rare and to date over the last year there has not been a need to call the on-call Midwives into the unit.

Matron & I did discuss the fact that you found the Midwives and Supervisor of Midwives to be somewhat negative in the manner that they informed you about events and circumstances around planning a home birth. We would like to apologies for this and Matron has offered to discuss the matter with the Supervisor of Midwives and to inform the Community Midwives to be aware of how they communicate information in an appropriate manner so that women feel their choices are being met and supported despite any differences of opinion. I am assured that Matron did try to convey to you that your safety and the safety of your baby is paramount and that any actions, suggestions or advice offered to you is to achieve this goal. We want the best outcome for you and your family and it is a privilege for us to be able to be part of your home birth experience. It is a joyous time and we hope you will now look forward and be excited about the arrival of your new baby which is due any time from now and the next 3 weeks. We do support your choice of a home-birth and value the communications that you have had with us which will help you achieve what you know is best for you."

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 17-Oct-12 14:54:54

Am glad you are at peace detective, and I too am a bit envy of the Shiney nips, and even the milky ones as mine are neither.

Slightly worried about yw getting stuck in the bath, how long has she been in now? 45mins?

Can't eat anything without reflux. Back hurts. Tired. Is it nearly bed time? Can I have this baby now? Have had enough.

ShellyBobbs Wed 17-Oct-12 14:54:55

Ooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Matron! [


ShellyBobbs Wed 17-Oct-12 14:57:21

VQ My first bargain of the year was in Asda a few weeks ago. I bought a baby grow bag and instead of the £12 I was expecting to pay, it went through at £6! I don't usually get bargains so was well chuffed.

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 14:59:00

That is a good response detective. I would be pleased.

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 14:59:51

Oh yes. I remember now shelly I do love a bargain.

Another bloody thread grin

Congratulations GT. Hope the feeding gets easier and can't wait for a name smile

Well I was in a good mood, got home at 1pm full of the joys of spring, had quite a descent nights sleep and works almost done. But my mood has now soured.
Through the post we had a letter from the clinic we had the IVF at saying our free semen storage had expired so we need to pay £360.
Only problem is when we had treatment in March we paid a fee for "semen freezing". So either we've already paid or the original payment is wrong and we're owed that back. Rung up to question it and ended up getting quite annoyed, she said it was for one thing and then said it was for something else and when I kept questioning it and referring to the fees we've got she seemed to change her mind again on what it was for. She's told me to email to query it again and contest it, so I have.

So now i'm annoyed, I had a little cry because I hate getting in to arguments especially when people can't see the point i'm trying to make. Don't know what we'll do about the £360, we can't afford it at the moment and that's our back up sperm for if we need it for when/if we have DC2.

Don't know what to do with the rest of the day now, can't really be arsed to do much

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 15:08:46

Am out of the bath was just enjoying my cuppa and listening to the radio meant to be working from home am safely extracted now!!!

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 15:09:12

Nice one detective. Good response - if a touch tardy.

I am clean and shiny! My nipples are pretty light anyway. Skin does flake off but I will keep a close eye on the colour - don't want little bald boobies.

Sitting on my ball watching the Bake Off final. How exciting! I want the wee jock Doctor to win. Doesn't look like it at the moment though as he has a soggy bottom. Cat is sitting immediately behind me on the sofa whining. Poor pussy.

Weaving sounds lovely. I have no finger-talent at all. Get all you guys with your weaving and saxophoning and stuff. YW have you Ben to Stirling Castle in the last couple of years? They are recreating the original wall hangings. You can go and watch them weave - I love it.

I have eaten a whole pineapple. Well, the bits that didn't end in the bin as it was pretty gnarly.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Wed 17-Oct-12 15:31:11

Feeling like rubbish as been up all night coughing.

Took car in for MOT and when I went to collect it DH has misunderstood the service guy so Honda have replaced 3 tyres rather than the two DH agreed to. So we've had to fork out £330!!!!

Going for a lie down now as DH not in work today so can look after DD.

Still raging over car!!

Can anyone inspire me with something to cook for tea?

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 15:41:49

I think I am cooking risotto with bacon and mushroom.

My arm is so tender after the WC jab earlier sad

Took ds to a group this afternoon and we all did the hokey cokey! Baby has been rather wriggly since then it must have woken her up!

YokoUhOh Wed 17-Oct-12 15:48:30

Congrats everyone on new arrivals and shiny new nipples smile

I was looking for some advice, actually; at 35 weeks, my abdomen is now permanently rock hard. I initially thought that this was Braxton Hicks but I'm starting to wonder if it's impending labour... No other symptoms apart from World's Hardest Belly TM. Any ideas?

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 15:51:58

No ideas I am afraid yoko. Did yellowwellies not have something similar and it was to do with head engagement. Check with her but I think she was given a position to get in to which would relieve the pressure.

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 15:53:10

fatima that is a lot of money. Hope it is their mistake. I am incredibly grateful we did not have to go down that route.

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 17-Oct-12 15:54:05

Glad you are safe and sound yw

YokoUhOh Wed 17-Oct-12 15:57:18

Thanks pmtc, sounds likely, it's definitely worse in some positions than others.

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 15:57:30

My bump nearly always rock hard? Assumed it was normal? You can make out body parts!!

Still not feeling pregnant apart from when he moves? It's really odd? It's like I've completely lost my bump? Everything is easy today! I'm putting it down to a reduction in work hours!! That or he's dropped?!

Pretty sure I'll pay for it tonight!!

Passme I was just thinking I could cook risotto. Do you think I could cook it now and leave it simmering until tea or would I just have to cool it later?

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 16:03:34

I always cook mine immediately before serving. I think there are recipes for oven-baked risotto though which you could do now.

Elizadoesdolittle Wed 17-Oct-12 16:04:55

Back from bluewater having spent far too much money. I went for comfort shoes rather than pretty shoes in the end. Obviously had my practical mum head on!

dh21 I live 15 mins/20 mins top drive from bluewater so find myself there loads. Plus I am going to Darenth Valley hosp so whenever I need to go there (like this morning for blood test) I magically find myself at bluewater after smile although I have to say I don't plan on having too many trips there now before baby is born. Shopping is tiring work! Think it will be all Internet based from now on.

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 16:05:19

Actually, fatima depends what time you want tea. It always takes me not far off an hour to cook it anyway.

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 16:06:27

Am I right to be in a strop? Or am I just ill and hormonal? (sorry, these are rapidly becomming moan-about-missmummy's-dh threads, I do love him really!) He gets a week of leave every 3 weeks atm. So basically, as of 7pm tonight he's off until next Thursday. We usually try and spend lots of quality time together when he's off and he does all the things he can't do when he's afloat. I've already agreed he can go up north on Friday night to move his other landrover (the one he's keeping) so long as he's back in time on Saturday to go to my dad's dinner party. (we stupidly agreed weeks ago we'd go and it means a lot to my dad - apparently - that we're there hmm). This is all fine. But yesterday he announced he was going diving on the west coast on Sunday as he needs 2 more dives for his next qual - 3/4 hour drive away, I'm feeling like crap and not wanting to be left alone and will now have 3 days without my car. I agreed (with a little blackmail that I NEED an expensive changing bag....)

BUT (and this is the bit that's really pissed me off) he's now phoned from work and said he'll be staying over on the west coast and going sailing with an old mate for 2 days so won't be back until Wednesday next week. Meaning he'll be away for his birthday where we had plans to go out, he'll miss antenatal classes and my next mw appointment (which is kinda important because it's to discuss what we're doing if they suspect junior is still breech), and I'll be without my car for nearly a week. And on my own while he's god knows where x-miles off shore.

And as if that's not bad enough, work have refused his leave when his fecking parents are over next weekend because there's noone to cover so it'll be up to me to entertain them. DESPITE me already having plans for the Saturday and a regular tutoring client on the Sunday.

I feel sick and I'm already in a shit mood, but please someone tell me I'm not being unreasonable to be very very pissed off with him right now!?!? Yes he needs a life, and all these things will pay dividends in the end because this dive qual equates to a slight pay rise, and if the sail's successful we'll be able to use the yacht ourselves next season. (and yes I am very envy I can't go to) but he doesn't seem to understand how unfair he's being!! Arghh.

Mega long post. Sorry. Ignore me ranting. I need a cuddle sad.

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 16:09:15

That's 3 or 4 hours, not three quarters of an hour. He might as well be in space...

Nicknamenotavailableeither Wed 17-Oct-12 16:12:12


Can I join the thread? I am due 18/11/12. I've lurked for long enough I think!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 16:18:45

Hell no MM. Does he have a death wish??

Seriously, that's taking the piss rather a lot hmm

I'm on my phone or I'd have more to say on the matter!

On the food subject, DP is getting me veggie hot dogs. I dunno what I want. He text asking what's for tea. My response? Whatever you are buying and cooking. Just feed me! blush

Am too tired to go and shop!!

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 16:18:50

Welcome nickname! I swear I'm not this hormonal and moany in real life grin!! Hope you're having a good pregnancy smile

NervousAt20 Wed 17-Oct-12 16:19:57

petite wow how are you feeling about Friday? Are you all ready? It's very exciting but nerve wracking too isn't it

pass glad triage are happy that its nothing serious but if your still worried then keep calling back, it's best just to get these things checked and it causes no harm

detective it sounds like they will be more supportive of you now and they realize they can't mess you around

fatima try not to let them stress you out, it could be something as simple as a mistake on their database that takes a click of a button to change

Missmummy you are deffinatly NBU he is completely! It's not fair for him to leave you without a car for that long and miss all your appointments, can you not try an compromise with him? failing that hide the car keys and let him make another way there

Had my second steroid jab and my god it was more painful then yesturday, didn't realise until we left that I swore when she put it in blush I had worked myself up into abit of a state anyway as I'm stupidly pathetic when it comes to needles but still I've never done that before

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 16:21:49

horsey he is probably engaged! Yay!

MM you are right to be upset, but it does sound as if there is a bit of logic about the dives. Men tend to do logic. Especially when they are feeling the pressure. Cancel the in laws though! For definate!

Welcome nick is it your first?

blonderthanred Wed 17-Oct-12 16:22:23

MM1 that is truly shit. I think You would not be unreasonable to say you are not happy with that. He should be bending over backwards to make you feel supported and reassured at the moment as well as making sure there is always a plan in case you need to get to hospital in a hurry - even if he is only away for a while.

It's his last birthday pre-baby - he should be spending it with you. And as for not attending AN and mw appts - forget it!

Hello Nickname, welcome!

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 16:23:01

Mm I'd go mental.......ok to the days dive, not to the stay away. No way. Your child could come anytime soon!! Dh had his last planned night out last Friday, but is hoping to go out this Friday and Saturday if all is ok. He said no to the beer festival in Germany this weekend!!

In fact I think I'd be packing his bags. I'm currently not that hormonal either lol!!

eliza no way could I walk round Bluewater atm, def waiting for the after-Xmas sales!

nickname welcome! You're 2 days ahead of me smile

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 16:25:47

Vq would I not feel more pressure on my pelvis? Seriously apart from weeing more than normal I feel the most normal I've felt in weeks!! It was like this yesterday too?! But today even freer. Not seeing mw for another week as she's on holiday!! Oh well I'm happy!!

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 16:27:39

I'm not too bothered about him having the car as I can probably have my mum's for a few days. Or not be such a lazy arse and use the train. The diving and moving of landrover I'd agreed to as they're all practical things and he'd only be away over night. It's the extra days of sailing (which is just a jolly for him that I'd usually be doing to) that I'm really fecked off about. And the fact he's going to be away for so long.

Again, I don't mind the fact that he can't get time off work when his parents are here because he'll be around in the evenings. It's just his attitude that I should cancel my plans (which have been on the calendar for 2 months!) and just take a day off from my work because his parents are fecking lazy incapable of entertaining themselves for a few hours. angry

Moan moan moan. On the plus side I've managed to keep some food down today and my massive bundle of next baby clothes arrived! We now have too many baby clothes - they're being organised in colour as well as size blush.

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 16:31:48

I only felt relief when my first engaged. Besides, you are super-human anyway.

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 17-Oct-12 16:33:32

mm no, I think that's a bit selfish, some of it, as you say, is reasonable, but all the extra sneaky bits tagged on are a little too much I would say.

Welcome nick nothing wrong with a good old lurker.

Please, please can I flop on the sofa and get off the bloody ball?

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 16:42:17

horsey it does sound as if baby is engaged. I have read about lots of ladies who either didn't notice or whose only symptom was the sense of more space.

I am desperately trying to convince myself that baby's head is engaged but as I still have feet in my ribs I think not.


If its a long baby could it be engaged but still have feet in your lungs? Because mines starting to engage and I can feel pressure low down (like the worlds going to fall out of my fanny) and I need to pee more, but then it's still uncomfortable high up mainly when I'm sat on the sofa

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 16:46:43

MM You're being more restrained than me! Is he doing this because he's panicking about the birth and is trying to get you to explode?

Two things about it would have me needing a restraining order: a) you could go into labour any time and the roads from the West Coast to where you are are not quick, often get blocked by snow or landslips and he isn't to know that you won't be one of those women who has quick labours. He could miss it and not be there to support you.

And b) the fact that his last pre-baby birthday is going to be spent with someone else - when you've been making plans for it - what you are about to go through is a massive change for a couple and quality time and celebrating big events together cements you to cope with it IMHO.

I know his nickname is Peter Pan but he needs to grow up and stop thinking that his plans are more important than yours. He reminds me of my awful Libra ex! When's his birthday not the 20th? (in which case runnnnnn!!!! I ended up leaving mine when I came back from an MSc week away to find that he had left his (not mine!) 3 year old daughter on her own at home so he could go to the pub - totally selfish and unable to handle responsiblity - I digress.) Apologies to other Librans - but shudder, alarm bells are ringing.

I would make plans for when his family are up - an unexpected client tutoring session? And go and hide out at your Mums. Or my sisters. Or just go shopping. Or hey go for a jolly with pals on a boat?

As for hard bumps - mine is most of the time now (35+3) don't remember who was asking. Apologies for my brain. Apparently junior's big fat ass and it's constant wiggling is irritating my uterus (again). If it's unusual for you (it just seems to be a standard preggo thing for me) or it could be a UTI get it checked out?

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 16:48:31

sophia I am off mine now.

Welcome nick. I think you are safe to come out of hiding.

MM I think he is asking too much. It is not as if you are second trimester - you need to know that he is going to be ready if something happens. In the grand scheme of things it's not a long time for him to change his commitments. It's not the lack of car for me but the being off shore.
Also, why are his parents insisting on coming over? If they are not over often I would write them a list of fab places to visit and send them away each day - Falkland Palace, the Falkirk Wheel, Stirling castle and so on. You haven't been well and they need to accept that.

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 16:53:14

Good idea on the list of fab places to visit - that's more diplomatic. Unless of course they come out with that classic line of 'but we came to see you!'. Wah!!!!

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 16:58:12

Thank you ladies - glad I'm not over-reacting. YW it's the 22nd. I went out with someone in the past who was a million times more selfish than him - he can be very loving and considerate, he's just sometimes a bit naive... He explained a few weeks ago that he's scared he won't be able to do any of these things after junior's here (people keep filling his head full of horror stories) so I can kind of see where he's coming from. I'm completely fine with everything bar the sailing. It's not essential, he spends all fecking week on a boat and it's not going to be cheap. angry. I know I'm usually the high maintenance one who isn't happy unless they're getting their own way, but he really is taking the piss with being away for so long. I don't think he realises how close we are to the end. Pray for shitty weather systems ladies that will mess up his plans!

Fab idea pass - I shall compile a list tonight! I'll be sure to add several places that will keep them away all day!

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 17:01:01

Culross would be nice as well. Anstruther for Fish and chips.

I would go down the line of having work / not having been well and beig under doctor's orders to rest as much as possible. A carefully planned last of places for them to see will seem thoughtful especially if it is presented with a grimace and a heartfelt apology that you won't be able to join them. Even if it only gets them out of the house for a couple of hours it takes the pressure off you. Stop worrying about not being the favourite in-law. None of that matters. You need to put you first because it doesn't sounds as if anyone else is going to.

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 17:07:05

Oh and while I'm on my high horse - I totally understand the fear from people's stories. Of course we all understand that our lives will change and many things will be very different. However, plenty of people manage to live fulfilling lives which allow them to continue their hobbies. I remember going to visit a friend who had 6 week old twins. I was astonished when I walked in as she had been sitting reading a book. I had been so filled with the idea that babies meant no doing anything other than feeding and looking stressed. So much of it will depend on you and your baby.

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 17:09:27

I'm not a favourite either. Though I think between my bil and me, I rank slightly higher. Mainly because I take no messing.

It is hard, dh is out most nights this week again. He'll have to stop soon though!! And one time I'll call him to say it's started and that's it!! Thankfully he is taking each day as it comes now and I'm constantly being asked ' are you about to drop yet?' lol

Peaky1 Wed 17-Oct-12 17:13:32

I can't believe how long that just took me to catch up on the thread!

MM I wouldn't cancel my plans at the weekend but then when I know/think I'm being reasonable I will put my foot down. My DP's family live just over 100 miles away and when he invited anyone up he used to happily carry on with his plans of going to the gym or telling them they can come up at a time when he knows he won't be back from work yet etc, or even off to play a footy match! I just had to point it out to him and then go out myself anyway. Fuck it, leave them on the doorstep to teach a lesson!! <cowbag emoticon>. He doesn't do it now though smile. DEFO wouldn't do it to me when pregnant. I think he realised that it did make him a pretty shitty host as they come all that way to see him!

Anyway MM - you're poorly at the moment, ready to give birth any time and are not a performing seal. I'd cancel them (or if they knew and had any feelings they'd cancel themselves!) Is there anyone you can contact that has more flexible heart strings you could tug on? As for your DH...well he's in the shit really isn't he?! Disclaimer: I know it probably isn't his fault at all about work but surely some compromise can me made?

Detective - I'm planning a home birth and I already have the hospital bags packed just in case and they'll just get unpacked here if this is where the party happens. I just nicked other people's lists that posted them on FB. I do like the idea of an oil burner and I do love aromatherapy. Should get into it really but can never be arsed. I will waddle round to the shops tomorrow to see if I can get my hands on anything. Never heard of Clary Sage oil! I take it that it's one of the forbidden ones that apparently bring on contractions or something. I've only got one shower curtain and gutted that it was £3. The pound shop will be on my route tomorrow! I'm afraid I'm definitely one for the whale music and smelly candles etc grin. In fact, I downloaded a 'Spa Music' album from iTunes today to add to my playlist. Hopefully the midwife won't want to throw my music out into the garden grin.

Peaky1 Wed 17-Oct-12 17:14:34

38 weeks today and due on Halloween shock.

Hope all goes well on Friday Nervous and PR thanks

kirrinIsland Wed 17-Oct-12 17:18:00

GT congratulations smile hope you and your baby boy are doing well.

MM your DH is completely out of order - I am pretty laid back but that really is several a step to far.

I had a MW appointment this morning and the baby is back to back. Hopefully she'll turn round soon. Will my birth ball help with that, does anyone know? She did mention getting down on my hands and knees so I'll be trying that later.

I am 37 weeks today. My plans this evening involve curry and a pineapple.

Peaky1 Wed 17-Oct-12 17:18:17

Aaaah a much more level-headed and reasonable compromise there from Pass!

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 17:20:42

People keeping filling his head about how his life is going to change? No offence, but he's hardly a teenager about to have his adult life and freedom stripped away and miss out on his party years is he? He is late thirties isn't he? Surely being asked to grow up and co-parent and share responsibility for a child he made at nearly 40 isn't too much to ask? You're the young one - you've got much more right to be scared I'd have thought!!!! He might be less selfish than your ex - but he still sounds selfish - sorry.

He's making his thoughts about the importance of the antenatal classes and sharing his birthday with you crystal clear. I hope he reconsiders about the sailing I really do. I can see the justifications for the other stuff though would still question the timing.

I don't think I've ever 'stopped' my DH from doing anything - I've never had to - he's imposed his own travel ban with work for the last two months of pregnancy and if he wants to go and do something on his own, fishing etc - it doesn't bother me at all - he just asks before making plans and makes sure he is in mobile range (reception is bad up here). It's a common courtesy. You don't seem to be an equal partner in this hon.

Sorry and btw feel free to ignore all of the above xxxx

I should stress that I'm not a high maintenance primadonna expecting your DH to perform superhuman feats of caring. Ads always jokes that I'm low maintenance and he'd like to see my high maintenance side in labour (am sure he will).

I'm just very wary of men that talk the talk but can't match their charming words with actions and end up repeatedly letting their ladies down and making the lady feel responsible / to blame or worse unreasonable for expecting them to support them through major stuff like errr, labour and pregnancy (but that's probably my ex issues coming to the fore!!!!) xx

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 17:21:47

Haha Peaky - luckily for him he's not due home for another 2 hours. I might have calmed down by then... His BIL and sister (one of them) are the only people in the family that I like and who have made any effort to get to know me. I might have a moan to them. I should really just man up and put up with them for the few days they'll be here but I'm fed up of always making an effort and it never being appreciated. Urgh. I really am in a strop today!

I think we will be sitting down tonight and having a real heart-to-heart about how much of a prat he's being. I might even direct him to this thread grin

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 17:35:27

Can you assure him that you don't know this mad YellowWellies bird? grin

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 17:55:52

Mm are you sure it's not that they're just an odd family?!

When mil was ill it was horrific. Sil lives a good drive away (about 2hrs) and one example of the many things my fil has done to piss me off included 'everyone' going to see mil in the nursing home on Xmas day. 'everyone' didn't include me. I was expected to stay at home and have Xmas dinner ready for 3pm when 'everyone' would return. Only half of them came back about 2pm my fil and sola out 3.30.

What did I do in the morning? Rode my horse the went to my mums and cried. I can give numberous other examples where myself or bil have been expected to just drop everything and look after things or children while he has 'special time' with his daughter. To the point that I walked out his house just before I lost my temper. Which is rare but I say things which are fairly horrid though truthful.

I've now decided his family just aren't like my family. He has no concept of what classes as socially acceptable behaviour and only views the world through him. He is not aware that people work, have plans/lives/do not want their 30th birthday party ruining interrupting just because he's having a strop. People actually left after he did his piece.

Our relationship is virtually beyond repair. Sadly he's not aware of this, which is probably for the better. Maybe not, perhaps he'd make more of an effort? Perhaps not.

shanelle5 Wed 17-Oct-12 17:59:27

MM if its any compensation/comiseration (not sure what word im looking for) he wont be quite such a selfish twunt as my "OH" (or NOT so "DP") I should put it as he left me 5 weeks ago at 33 weeks updiffed sadsadblush

The levels of selfishness involved for that behaviour are unparalleled I think so all you lovely Mummies whos' DH's etc are being complete idiots and a little bit selfish - and there does seem to be a lot lately, console yourslef that you are not alone facing being a single Mum. I already have 3 DD's at home and finding myself saddled with ALL the housework, washing, shopping and school runs to 3 diff schools (primary, secondary and college) has been a nightmare when so heavily preggo. Im not taking away that your DH is indeed pushing his luck and I too would be mightily pissed off, as would I in all the other scenarios posted about with equally selfish men but just wanted to say, at least he is there, even though it ofetn feels like we would be better off without them TBH!! wink
I was going to post about it for support when it happened as its been horrible but it was when evryone was sharing lovely romantic stories about how they met OH and wedding piccies on the FB group etc. It was such a lovely happy, fluffy post I didnt want to bring it down with my misery but am feeling a bit better now, just going on a day to day basis really and I love having this thread to make me chuckle and take me mind off it.

kissyfur Wed 17-Oct-12 18:03:26

Congratulations GT hope you are having lovely snuggles with your baby boy and that you have had a bit more success with breastfeeding. Off to catch up on the thread now...

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 18:09:00

Oh shanelle that must have been so shitty. Apologies for us lot not helping. Tres shit timing on our part.

It must be so hard but I disagree with your sentiment though (sorry) - deep down I think it's better to be alone than badly accompanied as the old Spanish saying goes (my Spanish has gone too... preferemento solo y malaccompaniados????) it just doesn't feel like it when it first happens. He can be added to the selfish twunt hall of shame. Do you have family nearby to support you? Feel free to have a good moan on here.

Horsey you seem to be able to take a very philosophical view which is commendable, and harsh as this sounds, the old bugger won't last forever bad YW. Some families are just plain odd and don't relate to each other in the way that I just thought was natural. My sister's inlaws are a bit like that. Her DBIL and his wife (well girlfriend but they've been together forever and he'll just never walk her up the aisle - something she is totally passive aggressive about) still haven't met their niece who arrived prematurely and had only 50% odds of survival. It's been 16 months now and they really don't live very far away. They seem to be the middle class / can't deal with emotions / and / or a crisis 'so lets just ignore it' brigade. I think they feel so bad for not being there at the time - they just can't visit.

Ahh.... families....

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 18:10:06

Oh shanelle what an absolute prick. Was it expected? And has he done anything to help since? I don't really know what to say as I've never been in your situation but sending you and your dds lots of hugs and best wishes. I am certain you are doing an amazing job with your daughters.

It really puts into perspective how trivial my moans are. Yes i hate him sometimes not hormone fuelled at all... and i only ever share his negative actions on here but i really am very lucky to have him.

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 18:27:42

MM your moans aren't trivial! It sounds like he's done a right number on you - you're always blaming yourself for him acting like an immature whatsit and not being there!!! Good luck with your heart to heart - I hope you can come to some compromise. xxxxxxxxx

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 18:28:35

Oh shanelle I am so very sorry to hear that. I actually disagree (bravely) slightly with YW as when you have other kids, you really need someone there all the time to help with the practicalities especially in late pregnancy with school runs. Being a single parent with one is a very different prospect to when you have more. Obviously ideally we would all be loved up whilst up-duffed. Please feel free to 'bring the thread down' if you are needing support x

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 18:31:22

MM your moans are important and it is better to air them on here than in RL or with him, as it helps to offload, and helps gain perspective. You are not lucky to have him btw, I never think that is a good attitude to have as it can allow piss taking. The man is always lucky to have the woman. Always grin

Chunkychicken Wed 17-Oct-12 18:31:36

Very quick one as cooking dinner & haven't read pg7...

MM YANBU. Sounds like he's being selfish & thoughtless and trying to enjoy his last few moments of freedom without considering their impact on you.

Eliza didn't realise you were so close to me!! I'm in the Bluewater area & attend Darent. I may now have to give birth there rather than home - will explain more later smile

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 18:41:46

Am not that scary am I?!!! Yes my comment was from someone with jackshit experience of being on my own with kids - so VQ you're quite right to contradict me as I'm talking, potentially, out of my arse. yet again

I too hate the concept of 'I'm lucky to have him' - no you're not. You could go out and (well maybe not at 8 months updiffed) get any bloke you wanted from a pub for a shag. Men - they just don't have that ability. He also gets lover, cook, cleaner, chauffeur, financial advisor, family entertainer, PA / organiser, oh and mother to his baby - and a much younger gorgeous woman - he is lucky to have you. Don't forget it. If he always makes you feel lucky to have him - take a long hard look at your relationship as it could be he's using power games to erode your confidence

Sorry I am sure he has his good points but they had better be pretty immense and he best be hung like a horse to compensate for his thoughtlessness xxxx

kirrinIsland Wed 17-Oct-12 18:47:13

shanelle I'm so sorry, that's awful sad feel free to off load on here whenever you need to, this is a support thread after all....

shanelle5 Wed 17-Oct-12 18:49:31

Thanks ladies. Yes and no to it being expected. There is a bit of history behind it, he has mental health issues a disorder called BPD which is similar-ish to bipolar and I have always been his carer.
Once I got upiffed which was unexpected the roles were reversed due to me suffering depression and horrible morning sickness/exhaustion and sadly he just didnt- or couldnt rise to the occasion finding my being needy and hormonal too much like hard work.
Seemed like he could take but not give support but to be fair, with his background and problems Im not sure how much of this is/was him being an arsehole or just that he mentally hasnt got it to give.
I have been a stroppy, hormonal bitch at times and during our frequent rows, said some pretty mean things of which he cannot forgive he says. He blames it ALL on me (as is normal) saying he jus 2could not put up with me anymore" but although I can hold my hands up and say yes I have been hard to live with this in my eyes does not excuse leaving me at such a vunerable time and in turn, I now cannot forgive HIM for his part in it, and doubt there is anyway back for us. sad
Yes he has been rather helpful, paying his half of the rent and bills etc to the point of being totally skint himself and doing any jobs I have asked of him etc. I see him a couple of times a week and he calls me and txts daily to see how I am. He is trying his best to be there for me whilst not actually being there iyswim and I try to look at those things positively and be grateful that he hasnt fucked off completely but its very hard as I am filled with hurt, anger and bitterness that he has left home.
We argue terribly over the phone if I get into anything emotional or the whys and what ifs of whats happened so I am just reduced to bottling it all up and saying yes im fine and trying to be all positive and cheery so as not to stress myself or baby out. I wasnt sure I wanted him at the birth really but have decided that we were grown up enough to DTD and create this life together we should at least both be there to see him into the world though it does grate a little that he gets to swan in for the nice bit after fecking off for the last few, really tough weeks, then will no doubt leave again after once the novelty of the first few days is over confused

ditsygem Wed 17-Oct-12 18:57:02

Shanelle really sorry, what a complete idiot. As the others have said please feel free to offload on here any time, we are def here to support each other and sometimes its easier to talk to others here then in RL.

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 19:23:41

shanelle very tricky when there are mental health issues going on. It certainly isn't an excuse for his behaviour, but goes a way to explaining why perhaps. I am glad he is there if only to some extent, and clearly cares about you and your baby. I do hope things do work out for you both, but I guess only time will tell. My brother has Aspergers, and I adore him, but have frequently been known to say I am glad I am his sister and not his partner.

YW I have the utmost respect for you, and it is that respect for you that made me fearful grin

shanelle5 Wed 17-Oct-12 19:34:16

VQ my 9 year old DD has Aspergers so living in a house with 2 very emotionally errrm challenged people has been hard at times. I cope well when not pregnant and hormonal but his inability to be any emotional support has proved to be too much for both of us in recent months but it does colour things yes as its not so clear cut as him being a prize prick!
Where do you draw the line though? I got so down myself that I was headed for a breakdown and was prescribed but didnt take anti depressants during this pregnancy and was looking a good candidate for PND. I think I have to put my own mental health first at this point to be the best and sanest Mummy for the little one, and also of course, put my older children above my relationship as its been hard for them too. sad

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Wed 17-Oct-12 19:36:09

shanelle sorry to hear about what is going on. You sound immensely strong and brave, and far more reasonable than I would be. Although it is his child too, it is your birth, so ok to be selfish about what you need or want, including his attendance or otherwise. Do you have any RL support?

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 19:45:16

shanelle you have to look after yourself in order to look after your babies, all of them. The order of priority has to be mummy, babies, daddy. You are right, it totally blurs the line. It is an impossible situation to make a decision that you feel is 100% right. I do not envy you thanks would it be worth talking to your GP again? Antidepressants are not the magic cure, but can help. Do you have help in RL? There are charities like home start that can help with practical things if you wanted? I wish you had said before x this must have been/ be a heavy cross to bear x

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 17-Oct-12 19:46:56

shannelle that is the shittest? How on earth are you coping? As others have said you know where to come for a moan thanks

Off for my bath try to get rid of all the aches and pains.

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 19:53:20

And madame is totally right. You decide who you want at the birth. Do what you need. Be totally selfish in that respect. Perhaps he would do better looking after the other kids? You know what is best for you. And you can change your mind at any point!

StuntNun Wed 17-Oct-12 19:55:32

Wow Shanelle you've really been through the mill. It's good that your ex-DP wants some involvement in the birth though, it's a good start to his relationship with his child.

SwissArmyWife Wed 17-Oct-12 20:07:49

What's the saying? If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best?

Shanelle Surely, even with an illness similar to bipolar, he could see that it would be a difficult time for both of you? Pregnancy is a trying time for any couple, and to me it seems as though he is running away from the situation instead of trying to get through it.
If you are suffering from depression I would really recommend going back to the doctor and having a chat about it. I did and took the option of medication, which has helped to level me out a bit more and I feel more in control. Don't be afraid to ask someone for a bit of advice, as you need all the support you can get right now. I do hope you're ok and please moan away if you need to, threads like this can really help and there are some very wise and lovely ladies on this one! x

MM Your DP is being an arse, drum it into him that you kind of need him around at the moment, being a ticking preggo-bomb and all.

Honestly, men!!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 20:12:10

Oh Shanelle I wish you had felt able to confide in here sooner sad

I'm so sorry you are going through this. I've been through separation, but with a child, not when pregnant. I don't know how you have gotten through the last few weeks - you are a strong strong woman.

Any man who can walk away from their pregnant partner can't be much of a man. I can show him a little credit in that he hasn't disappeared of the face of the earth, but neither should he have walked away so easily.

Pregnancy is a tough time with the hormones, wanting to feel secure, the changes in your body, and change in your priorities are all difficult - for you, and him. However, he should realise this, and adapt himself, not become Mr Selfish.

I'm of the school of thought that no man is better than a shit man. But I know exactly how it feels when you are on your own, and how damn tough it is to have to do EVERYTHING yourself. It is exhausting. Mentally and physically. Not to mention the whole not having someone to confide in, and share the little things in life that only a partner would care about. My mum thought I was being ridiculous when I said this. But it is true. I used to sit there for hours wishing someone would care enough for me to tell them the mundane shit of my day.

I found talking online was a lifeline though, and although I suspect it may be hard for you to post here, we've all got a past, and have been through many varied life changes, and I suspect there are some wise and supportive people here who are more than willing to listen and talk!

In a nutshell, feel free to talk/rant/whatever here, and know that people care!

shanelle5 Wed 17-Oct-12 20:13:31

There is so much support on here and such lovely ladies. No I don't have much support in RL but that's self inflicted if im honest as i havnt told my family im too embarrased! blush Im not ready for the disappointed tuts and we told you so's that typically come from my lot. I have a few good friends that i could share with now im a bit stronger and had time to get used to it a bit. I just feel like a failure as i was already divorced from my Girls father after 16 years so this was meant to be my new start with THE ONE and now i have to admit that ive mucked it up again sad

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 20:22:57

You haven't mucked it up Shanelle.

Mucking it up would be the man walking away from his pregnant partner!

I think you will find your family much more supportive than you realise.

I see a lot of women, who end up alone either for the duration of pregnancy, or at some point through the pregnancy, and I can count on one hand the number of women who have had little in the way of support around the pregnancy/birth/postnatal period. Families have a way of coming together when it matters most.

georgee Wed 17-Oct-12 20:23:14

Nope, lady, it wasn't you that mucked it up by any stretch. You sound as if you've been supporting him terrifically. He has to take the blame for mucking things up (although he obviously isn't accepting that blame). Poor you. You do sound so strong, big respect to you.

Take care of yourself. You're amazing, remember that.

Cacacaz Wed 17-Oct-12 20:51:27

Shanelle just want to echo what the other ladies have said that you are amazingly brave and strong, please let us all support you when you need a shoulder/ear/rant.

MM your dh is being incredibly selfish, I would go absolutely crazy at my dh if he even suggested a jolly with his mates.

DH my arm is aching too after the whooping cough vaccine.

I had a midwife appointment this morning, baby is one fifth engaged, so heading in the right direction wink I also finally have a physio appointment for Monday afternoon, I was referred over 10 weeks ago angry fil is convinced baby is going to be born on the 22nd, which is the same day as physio. I'm hoping he is right as I'm so over in pain and unable to sleep right now.

kissyfur Wed 17-Oct-12 20:53:08

Finally caught up I think!

missmummy YANBU! I'd be mighty pissed of at DP if said he was going away anywhere at the moment. You need him with you and he should realise that.

Good luck for Friday petit and nervous

shanelle I'm so sorry to hear what your OH has done. You sound like you're being incredibly brave and strong, of course you haven't 'mucked things up' please don't think that ((hugs))

It was my DDs last day at her nursery today and we got a folder to take home with a record of all the goals and milestones with lots of lovely little comments from her key workers on things she had said and done, as well and pictures of her. I cried when I read it! She's growing up so fast. It's my last day of work tomorrow then I'm on maternity leave for a whole year! Yay! smile

Will definitely get my hospital bag packed and the newborn clothes washed next week! blush

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 20:54:01

Shanelle huge hugs!!! I agree with the above comments though. Must be so tough!!

Yw - harsh as it sounds he won't be around for ever and if he continues to boil over the smallest things he'll kill himself. I just feel for dh as his dad will have nothing to do with the baby when he arrives. So essentially the baby will only be bought up knowing my side of the family. Sad but at least he'll have one set of very doting grandparents!! And one very very doting aunt in my sister!!

kissyfur Wed 17-Oct-12 20:57:40

Oh and I had my midwife appointment which all went ok but baby is not at all engaged, but apparently is in a very good position, so the midwife said it was a shame I'm having a c section hmm

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 20:58:07

Have we heard from cat today?

kissyfur Wed 17-Oct-12 21:11:37

No don't think so?! Maybe shes cuddling 2 little bundles? smile

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 21:13:20

I do hope so!

kissyfur Wed 17-Oct-12 21:16:09

Me too!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 21:16:49

I am currently trying to be very tolerant of DP who is sat at the other end of the room on his computer, playing his stupid games, with his stupid mates, on his stupid headphones, making stupid noises.

Wishing I was at work right now!

Can I also share, and hope that I am not alone in feeling this... Last weekend on my very last night shift in work, DP decided to invite his stupid mates over. Now, DP isn't the going out type, so I really shouldn't complain. But I was 37+2, and in work, and I'm feeling a bit protective of the house, given it is where I will hopefully give birth, and has all the things I have bought for this baby. It is my little sanctuary at the moment, and I really don't want anyone to come over blush. I didn't say this to DP, or say he couldn't invite them over, but did point out several things, such as being over 37 weeks, could give birth any time, it was a sunday night, DS in bed upstairs who has to be up for school... etc. He knew I didn't want them to come over, but he did it anyway sad I feel very selfish, but I'd rather he had picked a night when DS was at his dads, and gone out instead.

Guess it doesn't help that all his mates live with their parents, given they are 21-22. So it seems they only ever want to come to my our house. Also, clouding my judgement rather is the fact I don't like them - for no reason other than they are very immature!!

Just snapped at DP to shut up, after listening to 'Matt, Matt, zombie, zombie, you're gonna die, shit shit shit over the sound of the TV....' Narghhhhhhhhhh!!!

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 21:22:26

detective well, as a Cougar I am sure there are benefits wink (not that you are old enough to be a cougar, obviously)

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 21:22:31

Preg related question has anyone else noticed an increase in their appetite?! I can suddenly eat again and feel hungry all the time?!

Guess it's all related to having more space!!

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 21:23:00

Oh and I have an unquenchable thirst too?!

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 21:23:54

Are you eating like a horsey horsey ? That will be the added space and less pressure on your innards. Go get some cookies!

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 21:25:26

Not so much the thirs, although I have just had a wee beer.

Off to bed, sweet dreams all x

ValiumQueen Wed 17-Oct-12 21:25:52

thirst even blush

horseylady Wed 17-Oct-12 21:27:37

Not really as I don't want to shock my body into taking on lots of food!! But I feel really hungrey/thirsty? It's really odd. I think it's because I can now eat!!! I did just eat a twirl. With a glass of milk. Now I want more to drink??!! And eat!?

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 21:28:35

Definitely sounds like baby has moved in to the pelvis Horsey

Enjoy it, you won't get it next time around... this little sod does the can can in and out of mine hmm

Benefits you say VQ.... hmmmmm.... there are one or two grin

At least DP is generally more mature than his mates... I guess most men never grow out of computer games! My mums husband is 55, and still plays his playstation!

I will hope that he grows out of it when I am here anyway!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 21:30:12

I am more hungry in the mornings than the evenings lately! Can take or leave a night time snack, but am raiding the fridge at 4am! I could eat an evening meal for breakfast, and breakfast for an evening meal!

Also went through a very thirsty patch, where it seemed nothing quenched my thirst!

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 21:31:58

horsey me! I realised recently that I was eating when I was actually thirsty. I knew I needed something so would eat fruit but what I really needed was water. Trying to drink water frequently now

shanelle5 Wed 17-Oct-12 21:33:37

Horsey I was going to ask the same thing. I am almost always hungry and eating little and VERY often! Babies are growing maybe? Ive even been going to bed peckish...

kissyfur Wed 17-Oct-12 21:35:03

I find I'm hungry when I wake up in the night, it's v annoying! Having to eat just before bed now

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 21:36:44

I cannot believe what a hard time you have been having shannelle. I am so sorry about the terrible timing as well - it must have felt impossible to say what was going on when we are all sharing smushy stories.

I have no advice at all. I have never been in your shoes. What I hope we can all offer you though is some virtual hand holding.

detective My dad is 58 and still occasionally plays on the Xbox. Men never really grow up.

MissMummy1 Wed 17-Oct-12 21:37:02

For all of dh's flaws, he does not play computer games and hates watching sport!

Talk went well. He accepted it is unreasonable to go sailing as well as everything else. I didn't even need to cry/shout/slam any doors! He's also agreed to organise stuff for his parents to do during the day and I heard him on the phone telling them I need to rest as much as possible so if they aren't going to be helpful then they will need to be prepared to amuse themselves when he's at work.

All in all I think I've drummed it into him he's being a twat! and got my own way. When I said earlier I'm lucky to have him, what I meant is I'm lucky he puts up with all of my strops and dramas without complaint!

Anyone else having vibrating kind of sensations down below?
Had whooping cough jab yesterday and achy arm...

Hand holding here as we'll for everyone going through a tough time

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 21:42:34

YW Was it you who was looking for a cable knit thingy?! I saw this and thought of you! Though I seem to remember you found what you were after in the end... but just in case!

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Wed 17-Oct-12 21:56:49

Popping in so I can keep up.

Sorry to hear of your separation shanelle that must be incredibly difficult for you. We are all here anytime you need to moan.

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 21:58:20

Detective - yip that was me. I got that one after someone else on here recommended it! It arrived last week and I loves it smile

Glad the heart to heart went well MM and I bet you feel empowered that it didn't take a hissy fit to make him see your very sensible point. Tell your DH he's on the scary MN ladies naughty list! Sorry if I'm a bit forthright it's because I know you in real life and know that you're a lovely lass who doesn't deserve to be treated badly.

Shanelle jeez the last five weeks must have been horrific. Didn't you just lose a grandparent too a few months ago? You've had a hell of a time of it this pregnancy. If there is anything you need in real life please shout. Please also feel free to share here - we're all here to support you.

I wonder if catbag is having twin cuddles!? ENVY!

I had a lovely tapestry class this pm and my tutor has given me two projects to be getting on with.... Now will this mean I'll end up with an early baby - or will it give me something to do whilst I wait until December? Ahhh either option would be ok I guess.

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 22:04:39

Glad to hear it YW I've got a little large shopping basket on Gap... But we don't need any more clothes! Really... we don't. But I want them!!

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 22:10:11

Project sounds good yw. I love your general attitude and honesty. I think people on here know that if you say something then you really mean it.

Did go to Aldi. Saves me a job tomorrow. Snapped the handle of my shopping bag though so had to stand repacking in the rain.

A slightly tipsy DH is trying to persuade the cat to yawn so he can take her picture. This involves him yawning and telling her she looks tired.

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 22:11:56

Pass You are making me want to find the nearest cat rescue, and get a shit load of the buggers! I miss my cat! I want a cat! My mum would kill me if I got a cat right now grin

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 22:18:38

Aw! detective you can have a virtual share of my cat. She is from a rescue centre. I am a very bad influence as I would go with you to get a million kitties RIGHT NOW!

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 22:18:44

I wanted to take a barncat kitten or two off of a neighbouring farmers' hands a couple of months ago but DH was uber sensible mentioning the baby and the move, and being careful with money. I still think my logic of 'well our sleep is going to go to shit' anyway was pretty faultless? Pah...

horsey sounds like you is engaged innit!!!?

Aww pass bless you. I know I can be too lairy but I just don't put up with crap now I'm over the hill - I perhaps should remove my feet from my mouth occasionally.

kissyfur Wed 17-Oct-12 22:19:25

Just heard that my sis in law who is due 3 weeks after me has gone into hospital because her waters have broken! She's 32 and a half weeks, please reassure me that baby stands a very good chance!? She has polyhydraminos so was due to be admitted to hospital at 36 weeks, this is all a bit of a shock!

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 22:21:14

In other news. Aldi do delicious tiny icecreams like little magnums. 12 in a box for £1.99! Bargainous and totally delicious. Really useful for my new sweet tooth

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 22:23:43

kissy what a worry! I am not sure about percentages or the condition your SIL has but I am fairly certain that at 32 weeks the baby has a very good chance. I hope others can be more specific

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 22:25:12

Yes Kissy the baby is very developed, although small.

It isn't a definite she will deliver yet, the next 48 hours will give you a better idea of what is happening. A lot of the time the babies hang on for quite a bit longer yet, and she may be able to come home returning for regular checks (usually twice weekly).

But if she delivers, baby will go to SCBU, may possibly need assistance with ventilation (often CPAP at that gestation which is just positive pressure on the lungs and oxygen) a feeding tube as may not have the suckling reflex yet. The majority of issues with that gestation and above are breathing/feeding/jaundice.

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 22:26:16

I just wailed at DP 'I WANT A CAT NOWWWWWW' and he just said, don't you think we should have the baby first grin


TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 22:30:06

Do you think this would be suitable for a wedding confused

I can't find anything I like anywhere, and have a wedding next Friday. I've also got my birthday coming up, so wanted to kill 2 birds in one stone. Assuming I don't have the baby before of course!

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 22:32:27

32 weekers look HUGE in the SCBU - don't worry Kissy he / she stands an amazing chance (I think 29 weekers have a 95% survival rate these days and 30 weeks is considered a huge milestone with even higher odds).

In terms of what to expect, it's likely the wee one could be in the special baby unit for anywhere from a fortnight to a month or maybe even two - it depends on birthweight and condition. Sometimes they are released when they hit a certain weight - usually about 4-5lbs, other times they are in their until their due date - but I am sure he/she will be fine in the end. Just make sure NO ONE who is even the slightest bit ill goes to visit them - as the biggest risk is infection. And make sure that Mum and Dad are Nazis over the alcohol handwash if there are visitors. The baby will probably have to have synergis jags to protect them from colds this winter as they can be serious for prems.

But seriously the SCBU is amazing and a 32 weeker won't be scary for the staff. I put up a blog post the other day from a guy who's 25 weeker just got home from the NICU - so honestly 32 weekers are considered as 'nearly cooked' rather than 'half done' by the unit staff. The baby might have some short term lung issues (as they're not quite finished), and be a bit jaundiced, and will look a bit skinny but all they have really missed in the womb is the last few weeks of putting on fat. It is much more traumatic for the Mums though - early birth can lead to post traumatic stress and visiting your baby in hospital (and going home without them) has got to be horrible. I'm sure your family will all rally round. Does she have any other kids? Sometimes the biggest help can be looking after the older kids so that the new Mum can be at the hospital.

Good luck and lots of love to your family xxxxx

shanelle5 Wed 17-Oct-12 22:32:36

Thankyou all so much, I am truly grateful for the virtual hand holding and support it really is helpful. Wish Id shared earlier now as it was a lot harder a few weeks ago, the amount of times I went to write the post but then just didnt for one reason or another Ive lost count.
Will ,ake full use now Ive spilled, so thankyou again. kissy your little niece/nephew should be just fine, keep us updated and sending lots of luck to your Bro and SIL and of course the little one.
Think I will feel much better once I have my baby boy to snuggle and keep me company at night, I saw a very apt little top in Tesco the other day with the slogan "Mummy's new man" I was very tempted I must say grin

blonderthanred Wed 17-Oct-12 22:33:45

Yy to the appetite question... I am having an extra meal a day at the moment. Just a few rice cakes or a sandwich but I have really noticed an increase in hunger in the last couple of weeks.

MM I'm glad you've spoken to your DH and he has stepped up a bit.

Shanelle I'm really sorry to hear about your partner. Just to say that happened to my mum when she was pg with me and although she had a tough time, I have grown up with such admiration for her strength and determination. She has worked so hard over the years, bringing me up and then my brother and sister from a subsequent marriage which also ended. So I just wanted to say that I know it is a difficult and horrible situation but your baby is going to grow up so proud of you and how dignified you have been in such difficult circumstances.

Chunkychicken Wed 17-Oct-12 22:35:30

I think so Detective but then I got the purple dress with the pink bow from Next for a wedding a wk on Sat.

<hugs> Shanelle sounds like you've been through a lot.

Have found out that its unlikely I'll be able to have a home water birth as the community midwives are not fully trained in water births. I'm going to check with my MW on Tues, but I feel I have to make a choice between home or water birth. It's a tricky choice. sad

Sorry if I missed other posts - skim reading before bed, am v tired.

YellowWellies Wed 17-Oct-12 22:37:27

"Mummy's new man" I love it. You should get that shanelle grin

Nice frock detective I reckon that's fine for a wedding (and very very pretty)

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 22:40:33

Chunky That has given me the rage! Midwives don't need special training for water birth! And if they think they do, they need to get it. Denying you your choice of birth isn't acceptable for this reason.

Seriously, there is no special skill to birth in the water! Scratches head It is easier for the midwife to be honest, as it is completely hands off, and mum reaches down for baby! The only absolute thing they need to know is that if the mum stands above water at any point that the babys head is out, then she must not go back in the water, once the head is out, the air stimulates breathing. There fore baby must be either fully submerged or not at all once the head is crowning.

But that isn't rocket science. There really isn't anything else to it!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 22:41:26

Bodyform clip for those who haven't seen it. I giggled for quite some time after!

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 22:42:39

Yay! I shall get it and hope you can't see my bra above the neckline then! I ended up in a black dress for the wedding I went to in July, with blue accessories. Why is it so hard to find something nice that isn't black?!

kissyfur Wed 17-Oct-12 22:52:18

Thanks so much for your replies everyone esp YW and detective, bit less scared for them now. Fingers crossed baby will stay in there a bit longer.. Will keep you updated

TheDetective Wed 17-Oct-12 22:54:29

Chunky That was the other dress I considered btw, I may still get both and try them on! I was planning on getting some purple tights to go with the black dress though, which swayed me more to that one grin

Passmethecrisps Wed 17-Oct-12 23:06:08

That frock is perfect I reckon detective. I have a wedding in a fortnight when I will be 39 weeks. I am going to be wearing a black frock I bought from New Look and wore to work. I am tarting it up with silver glittery pumps and a silver sequinned shrug both from Next. I would have been cheaper buying a new mat dress but I get new shoes and a cardie I can wear post baby. I feel bad fr spending money we don't have but I am just going to feel so self-conscious. Everyone there will be very chic and glam - lots of London living. I will be ready to pop and wearing and old frock. <missing buying clothes not tent sized face>

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 00:25:07

Am now in bed feeling pissed off because DP was on the stupid game with his stupid headphones all night.

I wouldn't mind the game, it is listening to the incessant shit that gets driveled out of his gob. Grrrr.

He's probably still on it now, oblivious to why I am actually annoyed.

I had to say his name 5 times over to get his attention earlier, and I got back a nastily toned 'what' in response eventually.

Git. I'm glad he has to sleep on the sofa.

He's not normally this annoying - he just plays the game and types usually. I might stomp on the headphones accidently on purpose.... grin

I'm literally weeping here.

Woken up at 12, cannot get back to sleep.

My throat is raw from acid.
DS2 is in the bed with DP because he's had another nightmare.
The fucking cat is running around like a lunatic, if I could catch it the bell from its collar would likely be shoved where the sun doesn't shine by now.

I'm boiling hot but everyone else is really cold.
I'm on the sofa now, not likely to sleep again now.
The arsehole students have decided to start yelling outside the house again and they're lucky I'm so immobile otherwise I would be out there now threatening all sorts of horrible torture.

Please let this all be over soon! sad

I'm meant to be meeting a group of friends for breakfast but come then I'm going to be exhausted and in even more pain than I am now. sadangrysad

GTbaby Thu 18-Oct-12 02:16:19

Hello all. Bored on the ward. The ONLY reason I am still here is because there r not enough staff to discharge me before night shift started. Seriously. 5 of us women all I same situation. DH even bought car seat up. Took bags down. I didn't order dinner as I thought I'd be gone!
N I'm still here angry.
On plus side found a mw who actually gave me 2 mins of her time to advice about breast feeding. Feel a lil happier now. Even managed to get a few drops out manually. Just need to get baby to boob at same time as the drops!
But gave a plan. Sis is going to get me a latch assist n breast pump tomorrow morning.

DH bought me the advent shells today. But can't see how they wud help me feed? Seems more for protection of nipples. Then forming a shape? Oh well. I'm determined this will work. Being at home will help -as I don't need to worry about what other mums r thinking of me while baby screams for 10mins of trying to BF- so looking forward to b discharged tomorrow. If I'm not home by noon will have a hormonal rage. blush

GTbaby Thu 18-Oct-12 02:40:24

N to add to it. Lady on phone has gone. However snoring lady took over. Big loud man type snoring! Just want to sleep. N I'm hungry sad.

LittleLolly Thu 18-Oct-12 04:03:47

Anybody up? I seem to be having contractions. Had 4 in the last hour.

They are really sharp period type pains, very low down and some stabby fanjo pain. But they seem to be lasting ages, like 1-2 minutes, is that normal for contractions?

Google tells me it could be pre-labour or very early labour. Hmmmm.

GTbaby Thu 18-Oct-12 04:13:37

Little! How exciting. How far apart r they? I felt similar in my labour. However didn't feel the full contractions so not sure what it's all like. Call the labour ward n get some advice? Bug hugs

wellieboots Thu 18-Oct-12 04:22:56

I hung around here very early on, then have just been lurking as life was way too busy and I had a few falls that thankfully haven't done any damage to bubs but have given me some back/pelvic issues to deal with as well. So I've been lurking from a distance while you lovely ladies have filled up thread after thread!

Do you mind if I rejoin? DC1, 32, originally from Aberdeen but now living down under in Sydney. Have noticed that a number of you ladies are Scots and that we have a couple of other Aussies also. I am 38 weeks, finished work on Friday so finally have time for mumsnet if you'll have me at this late stage!

Congrats to everyone who has already had their "November" bubs and best wishes to everyone else!

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 04:29:10

littlelolly i'm here but sorry i do not know what contractions feel like!! good luck.

LittleLolly Thu 18-Oct-12 04:29:51

I am timing them on my phone and they have been anything from 8-15 mins apart. I've had 7 since 3am. I felt like I was going to wet myself during the last one!

I thought I would know if I was in labour, but I've got no idea if this is real contractions, BHs, wind or anything!! I feel silly calling the midwives coz I know what they will say... Warm bath and paracetamol!

So I'm just bouncing on my ball and waiting for something to tell me this it definitely it!

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 04:30:58

yey another sydney-sider!!

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 05:06:13

I'm here in a strop thanks to dickhead DP waking me over an hour ago 'going to ved' sounds possible Lolly keep timing them. Mine started like sharp wincy type pains, but people feel them differently and describe them in varying ways. There is no way of knowing if this is it yet or not. I'd advise you to try and get a little sleep if it's not too bad at the minute....

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 05:17:34

littlelolly sounds promising! whats your edd?

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 05:49:22

I'm so fucked off.

Can't believe DP would stay up til nearly 4am, then wake me by going in kitchen/bathroom before he went to bed. He damn well knows if I get woken that is it - up for the night. If he'd gone to bed earlier, I'd probably not have woke up, or at least may of stood a better chance of getting back to sleep!!

I may have just got my own back though, as I have been crashing around the kitchen for the last 45 minutes, having made pasta and cheese, and a hot chocolate. I then went to put the hoover away that he left out, and the dog got frightened and caught her claw on the one body part of me that could really hurt - my sore toe hmm.

Nice to see he cared enough to actually get up when I fell to the floor crying in pain. Not.

Twat. I'll bloody well keep him awake now.

Stupid hormones

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 05:50:04

I feel like putting a disclaimer on all my posts at the minute Warning: Fueled by pregnant hormones.


LittleLolly Thu 18-Oct-12 06:06:48

Well they are every 5 mins now lasting 45 seconds ish. Getting stronger and more painful. Phoned triage who said ring back when they are every 3 mins and keep active. The midwife said she thinks I'm in early labour but this stage can take a long time with first baby.

It feels surreal and I'm not sure I'm ready!!!

wellieboots Thu 18-Oct-12 06:23:40

Ooh, sounds exciting littlelolly! Take care of yourself and let us know how you're getting on

CandyPop Thu 18-Oct-12 06:47:43

Good luck little ! U can do it!!

StuntNun Thu 18-Oct-12 07:03:08

Another 'newbie'! Welcome back WellieBoots.

Sounds like the real thing Little. If they are reasonably regular and increasing in length then that's probably it. The first stage can take a while and the contractions can slow or even stop so get comfy with something to distract you and make sure your phone's charged so you can give us updates!

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 07:03:42

Hope you got some more sleep tits and things look a bit better this morning.

wellies welcome back.

Well, I now have a snoring DH and two snoring kids in with me. Not much room for my bump.

little good luck!

No more sleep sad

Good luck little. X

kissyfur Thu 18-Oct-12 07:35:05

Good luck little and welcome to the 2 newbies smile

Ooh little v exciting! These babies are coming thick and fast now!

Actually had an ok sleep last night, up at 2 and 6 for a wee but that's quite good for me.
Going shopping just me and ds today, prob end up buying useless baby things I don't need but it's hard to resist!

horseylady Thu 18-Oct-12 07:40:50

Tits hugs.

Little good luck!!

Detective - hope dp is awake now!!

Gt - sounds like it's a nightmare!! Hope you get discharged!!

Bump defo moved. I can no longer see my sticky out belly button and my toes are more visible. Dh said it had dropped loads too. Really odd??!! Why don't second babies drop (out of interest)? Everything seems to say you drop two to four weeks before labour!! Which is still 40-42 weeks!!! 38 weeks today!!

Right, horses, work, horses, buy pacapod (second hand!!)

Lilliana Thu 18-Oct-12 07:41:42

Shanelle I'm so sorry to hear what you have been going through and that you didn't post here due to our reminising moment. Please offload here as much as you feel will help. I am sure that things will work out one way or another but what rubbish timing. thanks Take care

YW your project is making me want to do something. Maybe I will have a look for something to make when I finally start mat leave.

Chunky how can they do home births and water births but not home water births confused How stupid. If you really want the pool at home I would push for it.

Ooh, sound exciting Little good luck

Not slept well and we have LSA interviews today so have 2 extra LSAs in my room and 2 members of SLT in observing them! There is no room as there is and am also going to feel 'observed' even if they are focusing on what the LSAs are doing sad Oh well only 1 week left until mat leave.

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 08:22:43

Awwww poo shock

I'm having 'uncomfy' tightenings every 7 minutes. Bump goes hard and back aches.

Crap crap crap, this wasn't part of the plan. Am hoping they go off... I wanted another week please! Am 37+5 today so will just have to wait and see.

Can talk through them but they are definitely uncomfy.

On the plus side DP is now up. Well if you count snoring next to me hmm

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 08:28:07

I am not laughing, honest detective <<snorts coffee all over iPad>>

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 08:31:12

Fatima wow having to deal with that IVF clinic charge thingy doesn’t sound like fun. I do admire the ladies who do IVF I’m sure it must be a very stressful and difficult thing to go through.

So much happened over night (for me) on this thread I will need to go back and read it all again I think!

I have just been crying because we got a letter through to say we have to stop hanging laundry outside the front door. We live in a flat in a block, and we are two flights up so for me it has been much much easier to do this than to carry laundry down and take dd down with me to hang it out/stop her from running off into the road etc etc I hate renting - you have to folow someone else's rules!! argh! Also our play group is stopping and I am very sad about it, I made some good friends there. DH kept me up most of the night snoring so I know I am just over-tired and not thinking straight. Oh and one of my best friends is moving away in the new year (sob).

I just want to have this baby now and have something 'real' to focus on, so i can stop being all inside my own stupid head.

((hugs)) to everyone who wants one, and to those who are having contractions!!

kirrinIsland Thu 18-Oct-12 08:31:13

Ooh little sounds like this might be it! Maybe try and get soome rest til in gets going properly.

tits hope you manage to get some rest soon.

GT hope you get home soon. It must be doubly annoying to have to stay an extra night for that reason!

Welcome back wellies

I heard DD stirring this morning, went in to check on her and found her, still asleep, right underneath her bed! I had to haul her out by her feet. Took her in with me though so managed to keep her dozing til about 7 so not too bad. We're just watching postman pat again and then off the the supermarket - my exciting life!!

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 08:34:00

Baaaaaaaah <grump>

Why does nothing ever go the way I want it! Last time around I'd of killed to labour at this gestation. Grrrr!

The last one was more uncomfy. I'm hoping I just need a poo to be honest!!!

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 08:34:36

Sorry you did not sleep tits. What does your day hold for you? Chocolate and rest, I hope.

DH has the day off, so is taking DD1 out for a special daddy daughter day which will likely end up costing a lot. DD2 at nursery all day, so I plan to be in bed for some of it.

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 08:34:51

VQ what happened with your contractions? Do you think they were 'practice' ones?

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 08:35:27

Most likely a poo detective

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 08:36:35

She gave them to me Pasties grin

I really am gonna kill the snoring bastard in a minute....

kirrinIsland Thu 18-Oct-12 08:36:58

Cross post detective - I know you'd like some extra time, but I will happily swap places with you!

pasties one of our playgroups stopped and we just carried on meeting at the same time each week so we could stay in touch. It's actually nicer as it's a smaller group, but we do have to be inventive as to what we do to keep it interesting for the kids - often just rounds each others houses, but sometimes park or soft play. No advice on the laundry I'm afraid, unless you can put some of those ceiling wires in the bathroom or somewhere?

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 08:37:15

pasties I have no idea. Still happening occasionally, but nothing regular. A week today the little fella will be evicted anyway. Would prefer if it was sooner, as I am very uncomfy.

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 08:37:30

Yes. A poo. smile I hope!

Happy Detective!

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 08:38:06

Poo pains (snort) detective? They could be!! Little baby poo...aww... yuck, sorry grin

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 08:41:12

<Boak> I have horrible images now!!

Still going at 6 mins apart lasting 50 seconds. According to my App grin damn it.

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 08:41:36

pasties sorry missed your post. How about getting a heated airer for indoors. Lakeland sell them over here, but they are likely to sell similar things there. They cost pennies to heat, and would not need heating at all in the summer. Could you even put an airer on a balcony?

I'm meeting some friends for breakfast then I'll probably sleep.

I'm wondering if I can ask Santa wry nicely to trade any gifts for the arrival of the boy now? grin

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 08:44:08

Breakfast with friends sounds nice, and then rest with a full belly. Good luck with negotiating with Santa x

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 08:47:16

Turns out the less eager you are for labour to start, the more eager it is to appear.

Try that Tits!!

kirrinIsland Thu 18-Oct-12 09:04:52

If that's true detective then I want it on record that I am in no hurry for labour to start and I will happily wait til 42 weeks <<crosses fingers behind back>>

Brockle Thu 18-Oct-12 09:05:36

Well you did say you were bored detective grin

Good luck little

I can tell you lot are going to depress me by all having babies early! Joking aside, the best of luck to everyone over the next 48 hours.

Alamaya Thu 18-Oct-12 09:13:55

Sorry i dont get on here much. Tbh i find the amount of posts on my return overwhelming every time lol.

37 weeks today and this baby needs out now. lol. Im so over pregnancy i want my squishy little man now :P

georgee Thu 18-Oct-12 09:17:10

Ooh good luck little ... Detective, hoping it's a false alarm? If anyone would know, though, you would! Sorry to hear about your rubbish night Tits. Pasties, I second that Lakeland thing. We have a line and can't use it most of the time because of the weather. I do lots of hanging clothes on clothes horses!

Not much going on here. 34 wk GP appt yesterday, apparently there is a bit of protein in my urine which they say might be a brewing UTI? Results on Monday of that one.

MIL here today and has taken DD out so I can have a lovely shower, feed next door's cats (which I'm quite enjoying for those cat-fanciers - DH would never let us have any but I used to be a vet assistant after school and we always had animals at home - this takes me right back) and do some work trying not to be distracted by this thread which I look at every five minutes.

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 09:25:58

kirrin yes you are sensible, I know I can still see the nice mums from the play-group and their LO’s but for some reason I was listing everything that is ‘changing’ at the moment and it made me all wobbly! And yes good suggestion for the laundry – there must be some sort of bathroom rig-up we could figure out. I think I just feel like a kid who has been told off and want to stamp my feet about it!!

valium oh dear it’s hard being uncomfy, but I am so happy you get to meet your little boy soon! And I do have an airer on the balcony, but I don’t like to put hand washed stuff on there as it drips down on to the downstairs neighbour’s balcony (and when upstairs does it to me it’s very annoying) so I thought I was being thoughtful (if that makes sense).

Aw ladies you are all most kind saying nice things to me about my stupid laundry – I feel a right Dilbert moaning about it really when others have serious things on their minds (apologies if anyone has Dilbert on their names list!!) smile

NervousAt20 Thu 18-Oct-12 09:29:39

Welcome nickname this is a very chatty thread!

Oh shanelle sounds like you've been having an awful time, I hope you have lots of support in RL and were always here to offer it too

detective I think that dress would be fine for a wedding and a birthday

Welcome back wellie this is a fast moving thread so will keep you on your toes grin

Wow little how are you doing? Sounds like things could be heading in the right direction

dective how are you feeling?

pasties hugs if you need one!!!

Sitting in the hair dressers is not comfortable! Im so grateful I manage to get an appointment at such a short time though. Everything at home is nearly sorted for little ones arrival just have some more washing to do, up clothes away and tidy round the house then hopefully can relax for abit with DP. Can't believe my baby should be here tomorrow!!! I have a scan today to check fluid levels today so hopefully there still good, I will be devastated if they want me to stay in for monitoring r anything today even though I would I'd like one last night in my bed

I've read somewhere that when you have a section it can take longer for your milk to come in, any ideas on this ladies? I'm wondering if I should take a carton or 2 of milk just to be safe?

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 09:32:12

Still going. Ow. Feck.

Poo didn't work.

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 09:33:46

nervous! Its so exciting hearing about your baby arriving tomorrow!! Enjoy your hair cut smile

NervousAt20 Thu 18-Oct-12 09:35:08

Thank you pasties still in shock about it myself grin I was convinced I would have a 42 week belly dweller

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 09:38:13

did you do a poo detective? or did it not want to come out? Maybe you will be the next to pop! very excited for you, is your dp awake yet? Did your son get off to school yet?

LittleLolly Thu 18-Oct-12 09:41:27

I'm still at home, they spaced out again to 8 minutes apart but are back at 4-5 mins apart now and I'm starting to find the pain quite hard to cope with. But don't want to turn up at triage and be sent home so going to keep going here as long as I can. In between contractions I feel ok.

Elizadoesdolittle Thu 18-Oct-12 09:45:25

chunkychicken we could well pass each other in the delivery suite then! I was ruled out for a home birth straight away due to having a 3rd degree tear with DD. I'm after a water birth this time too if I have time. Hope you at least get that bit of your birth

nervous all the best for tomorrow. Will be thinking of you.

gt sorry to hear you've been kept in for such a silly reason. Hope you get home soon. It's so much easier to figure things out when you're in your own environment without annoying ward mates!

And to those that are in early labour, good luck and this is going to sound a bit peculiar but enjoy. I never really experienced early labour signs and would have liked to so I could have been more prepared. Having said that i will probably end up with a horrendously long labour this time round! None the less its all exciting times smile

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 09:45:51

littlelolly bless you, if you feel its getting too much for you, you can try a warm bath, or a shower pointed on your back, or sit on a chair that is around the wrong way and rest your arms on the back of the chair, and rest your forehead on your arms, use books to lift your feet up to a comfy height, if your dh/dp is to hand he can give you a very very light and gentle massage (although they say dont actually massage just sort of stroke over your partner with finger tips). a head massage is also supposed to be nice.

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 09:48:05

eliza i didnt have any early labour either, its so exciting to hear about other peoples experiences.

StuntNun Thu 18-Oct-12 09:54:53

Horsey this is my understanding and may not be totally 100% scientifically accurate. When you have your first baby your uterus is shaped like an upside-down pear. As your baby reaches full term the head (usually, sometimes the bottom) goes down into the pelvis (engages) because the baby is running out of space. The baby's head doesn't go into the pelvis before this because there are ligaments around that area of the pelvis that loosen and stretch in late pregnancy. Engaging is often called lightening, as you've experienced, because you suddenly get a bit more breathing room and your stomach isn't so squashed.

When it's a subsequent baby your uterus has already stretched and will be rounder in shape so (1) there's more room for baby to move around in a sphere than in a pear-shape, and (2) if your baby's head does go into the pelvis there's more room around the head so baby can just move up and out again.

Passmethecrisps Thu 18-Oct-12 09:58:55

I can't believe there is so much activity on this thread - birthing activity I mean. I sometimes imagine us all in one room and it makes me giggle. That one ranting, that one having contractions, someone over there crying, someone else chasing a mental cat and so on. Noone else understands us like we understand us!

little and detective how exciting! Mind you, I know detective, that you were crossing your legs so fingers crossed for you that this is just a wee practice. I have a friend who was told to 'get in the bath with a nice glass of wine' by her midwife when she went into early labour. Sounds like a plan.

I do have a question about timing contractions. I have heard that the very early ones are irregular so you should not get too worked up but still time them. How can you do much else if you are timing contractions? If they get to every 4 minutes or so surely you are just sitting there with your watch. Also, do they speed up if you go to sleep? If you advised to try to sleep what if they become much closer together and you end up much further on that you would really have wanted?

These are stupid questions, I know. I am a bit freaked out though by knowing when things are actually kicking off. A lady at my yoga group went into labour so quickly that she gave birth before an ambulance could get to her. She described her husband as 'catching' the baby when it came out. Now, as effortless and tempting as that sounds I am not sure it is a very good idea

StuntNun Thu 18-Oct-12 10:03:23

Sorry Nervous I missed your post. It may take longer for your milk to come in after a section (although it didn't with mine) but you will still be producing colostrum which is very high calorie and will keep baby happy and well fed. I found with my two that I had a few mls of colostrum for the first few days then I suddenly had loads of milk and my breasts were quite 'full' (i.e. HUGE), then it settled down. New baby's stomachs are the size of a marble and won't stretch so it doesn't take much to fill them up and they feed frequently. After a couple/few days their tummies are bigger and stretchy so they can take more milk and go longer between feeds.

Lol pass would be hilarious if we were all in the same room together!

Good luck to those having contractions, may even get two babies in one day!

horseylady Thu 18-Oct-12 10:16:58

Stunt - that would make sense. I only see the uterus when were planning cancer treatments. As you say it's pear shaped (upside down) but obv the stretch is greater if you have subsequent pregnancies. I was thinking that the sheep and pigs show more in later pregnancies, well we say drop more but it's a different type of dropping. They actually show more, I guess like humans can.

Good luck if you are in labour guys!! My mat leave doesn't start till the 27th but I think I'll be about week late. With absolutely no scientific knowledge behind it what so ever!!

Bought the pacapod!! Think I paid slightly over the odds for it, but actually would have paid a lot more on eBay so maybe not??!! Anyway I'm happy!!

georgee Thu 18-Oct-12 10:20:49

About the room idea, in theory it does seem strange the idea of us all together in this, a bunch of random women from all over the place, but it's really valuable. DH and I were lucky enough to go out for high tea at a hotel in Gullane in East Lothian yesterday as a final little date (voucher had been a 40th birthday present from November last year and I thought we ought to use it while we had the chance) and I ended up chatting to him about stuff on the thread (not the gory stuff, just where people where and what their situations were, latest news). I think he thinks I'm a bit mad spending so much time in cyberspace with a bunch of other women I will probably never meet but it's so important isn't it, the feeling of all going through it together. smile

YellowWellies Thu 18-Oct-12 10:20:53

Oh Detective and Lolly - lots of luck to you ladies. It sounds like this could be it. On the 'if you don't want it to happen early, it will' logic - my one won't turn up til Christmas Eve at this rate sad.

Nervous lots of luck for your scan today and section tomo. My sis had two sections and both times her milk (well colostrum) came in straight away - don't worry Junior only needs colostrum.

GT hope you're home safe!

newbies hello and welcome / back - we do blether a lot on here so sorry for the fast pace.

Kirrin any news from your SIL?

YellowWellies Thu 18-Oct-12 10:22:44

Georgee my DH thinks it's great and always asks me 'how the girls?' are. I half reckon he'd like to get an account himself as I'm picking up so much wisdom and amusement from you guys!

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Thu 18-Oct-12 10:27:23

Seems like there may be another few babies on the way!

I've been up all night coughing with this chest infection again so now DD is at nursery I'm away back to bed for a few hours.

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 10:27:40

My dh doesnt seem to get the thread at all. But he doesnt know funny it is most days!! ha!

StuntNun Thu 18-Oct-12 10:37:25

Horsey thanks for the comparison to sheep and pigs. That made my day! grin

Georgee it's great in the sense that we're all in it together pregnancy-wise but it's also great for the random stuff we get on here: kitten adoption, new furniture, landlord rants, misbehaving older DC. It's been an education, I have learned two new words: fanjo and vagine.

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 10:43:02

There is an advert on tv over here for a sports fan website thingy it is called Fango, and it makes me crack up every single time!!

georgee Thu 18-Oct-12 10:49:33

Stuntnun grin. Always useful to discover new words for that area I think, I've been at a loss as to what to call it with DD. At the moment she thinks boys have 'tails' and girls have 'bottoms'. Really not ideal, I'm trying to move onto pee-pee with boys but still am unsure how to refer to our lady parts when talking to a 2 year old!

And of course my early query on maternal hairiness/baby's gender was answered, I think by you actually, thanks!

Lane81 Thu 18-Oct-12 10:52:00

little and detective how exciting! Keep us posted and hope you meet your babies soon. Is that 4 potential graduates by the end of this week? Wow, the other thread will soon be bigger than this one! (I can't look at it, it will just make me impatient!)

wellieboots Thu 18-Oct-12 11:09:02

Can't believe how many babies seem to be on their way over the next couple of days! Good luck ladies! I'm officially due 31 Oct but no sign of anything other than the odd BH and some intermittent period type pain.

detective it really sounds like you need this to be a false alarm, so I hope it is! littlelolly hope you are doing ok and to the ladies with CS tomorrow, all the very best - it looks like there will be a lot of non-November babies on this thread!

pasties - yes, the fango thing makes me chuckle every time it comes on the tv! smile


MissMummy1 Thu 18-Oct-12 11:13:45

Exciting stuff little and potentially detective!!

Feeling a million times better this morning. Him indoors now on leave so has made me pancakes this morning we can overlook the fact he forgot the eggs so they were minging. About to go for a shower while he knocks up another bach. I told him last night you ladies all think he's being a twat too, and despite the eyerolling I think it struck a chord. He's been wonderman this morning! Even offered to drive me to work tonight and wait in the car for 3 hours while I'm teaching!

Re all of us in the same room, I'd be the stroppy hormonal one in the corner. blush

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 11:23:13

wellieboots dh tells me its gunna be mega hot tomorrow. I'm not lookimg forward to it! I am a mega grump in the heat atm.

Panckes without the egg?! isnt that wallpaper paste!! ;)

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 18-Oct-12 11:24:20

How's it going detective and lolly? Thinking of you today.

horsey I think my uterus is shaped more like an orange and there is nowehere to engage!! It just tumbles around any which way. I have days where I feel thoroughly engaged and days when I don't although the bump has most obviously moved south.

Feel better today than yesterday, I think that at about 5am the baby flipped back to LOA, am sending lots of prayers it now stays there. It did mean I was up from 5 though.


I think that DH has finally engaged with the fact I am having a baby. I sent him his birthplan and said in the title, he needed to read it In The event of anything happening or at least by 7th Nov. Anyway, a normal evening ensued. This morning I took him to work and he actually struck up a conversation about the birth! I was gobsmacked and went into hyper babble a little.

That and the flipping baby makes for a very happy snow fairy!

On internal relations mm I am so pleased you had a productive conversation with your DH

Loving the room analogy. I am finding this group brilliant, supportive through the ups and the downs, somewhere I can say what I think and there is always someone in our room on the dull maternity leave days that we all know we should be appreciating!!

Also...sorry am going on a bit detective that dress is lovely you will look ga in it and I bet you will be able to eBay it easily as well. smile


blonderthanred Thu 18-Oct-12 11:38:28

Pasties I love it when things from MN make you crack up IRL. I recently saw someone with a flash car and personalised number plate including the initials FMU. I thought, he's never looked on the Conception boards at MN!

I have my sweep at 4pm. My friend said hers put her into labour the next day so I have convinced myself this is IT - in reality they will probably have a little poke and say I'm not ready yet.

Bit worried about the baby's position as it seems to have moved but I can't work out what is where - it either has 2 bottoms or a really fat knee. Or else it's turned transverse, really hope not!

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 11:44:52

I'm just so jealous, I want to be in labour now envy Good luck to all you labouring women, I'll be thinking of you.

Hubby has phoned work and said he's having today and tomorrow off because he's worried about me and all the pain I'm in (just the usual), he has completely convinced himself that I'll be having it this weekend (I reckon about 2.5 weeks myself) and so has everything worked out. He is currently emptying our bedroom, cleaning it and re-arranging it, he keeps coming downstairs to stroke my arms confused.

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 11:46:10

Oh yes! Number plates always seem to be MN related! I see so many!

Good luck with your sweep. Are you feeling calm about it? Apart from not knowing what position the baby is in.

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 11:46:40

MM pancakes with no egg sounds pretty grim! Nice thought though.

nervous my milk came in sooner after a section than after my first delivery. As said upthread, colostrum will be there, so no need to take milk. Much better for baby to be on boobie all the time.

alamaya welcome. You have come at a busy time!

AFM, a couple of pretty strong contractions again, but just fizzle out. Grr!

detective I think you are bluffing about not wanting baby to arrive yet. I remember you were planning to express from 37 weeks. Seems to be working good luck honey, and you must have a live birth thread!!!

StuntNun Thu 18-Oct-12 11:52:17

Georgee go old fashioned and call them the 'front bottom'! My mum always referred to anything in the 'nether regions' by the correct anatomical terms. It's easy to say penis or bottom with boys but I don't know how she managed to say vagina to a young girl!

Off topic a bit but my dog won't stop farting. It's driving me round the bend. They're horrible stinky ones where you have to leave the room. I've ordered a different dog food for her but that will take a while to kick in.

I'm a little concerned that baby has moved position. Previously he was head down with his bum in the top-middle of my bump which seemed like a pretty good way to be. Now I don't know what he's doing in there. I almost wish I could look inside and see where he is.

georgee Thu 18-Oct-12 11:54:20

... yes detective if in fact you could set up some sort of webcam contraption and then talk us through the birth in a midwife-stylee, I think that would be very educational and beneficial for us ladies who are preparing for birth. wink

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 11:56:46

I found out about my 'front bottom flatulence', it's all the bouncing on my ball with open legs. I stood up last night and out ripped a cracker, right in front of hubby blush

My crochet needles have just arrived, off to youtube now to find out how to do it grin

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 11:58:48

shelly bless your husband stroking your arm! is it annoying!!? smile

georgee Thu 18-Oct-12 11:59:29

Yes good thinking Stunt, front bottom is as good as anything isn't it.

Farting dogs - we used to have one who ran away from herself every time it happened. Although obviously the fart would linger where she had been ...

Don't know about everyone else (while we're on the subject) but I've been producing some killer ones lately. Perhaps if I perfected a fast running away technique myself people might not realise they're coming from me? Although the fact that it would be more of a fast waddle would probably give me away as the culprit. In the (approximate) words of 'What to Expect when you're Expecting' (the book) - 'No-one does gas like a pregnant lady'. I read that when I was expecting my first and it stuck in my head!

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 12:02:04

Front bottom works for me. I do not think little girls need to know too much information too early. I call boy bits willies, and say they are little hosepipes for boys. DD1 is 6 and I am wondering when I need to tell her more detail. I was 9 when I started menstruating, and thought I was dying as had not been told a thing.

blonderthanred Thu 18-Oct-12 12:03:49

Yes Stunt that's where mine was, now it's really confusing. Bump is quite hard so maybe that's just hiding it.

Pasties I am well nervous but mostly in denial. Got very jittery grumpy last night and shouted at DH when he asked if it was about dinner or something. So the denial is probably preferable. Have everything packed just in case.

I always find smears hurt and they have to use the smaller speculum so I am not convinced that the sweep is going to be much fun. DH and I have been doing perineal massage and I am really sensitive down there atm (sorry TMI).

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 12:06:21

The trick Georgee is to know when you've stopped and then get away as fast as you can, I'd still be doing it and running away, plus it would be one of those arse stingers too that burn and really, really stink! Mine set off braxton hicks they are that bad blush

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 12:12:08

blonder Detective had some good tips for a sweep/internal earlier on one of the threads - something about pillow under hips. Gosh cant quite remember - sorry.

shelly crocheting rocks! I love it!!! There are some lovely blogs around for inspiration smile

I managed about 15 mins on the sewing machine today. I will try and do more on saturday while dd is off with dh swimming.

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 12:12:17

VQ My 8 year old told me the other day that she,

'bet all girls were glad they had a front bum and not a urrrrmmmm, what are those things called that boys have?'


'yes, willies. Because if you were weeing and someone came in, you can see a boy's willy but you can't see a girls bum because we sit down to wee.'

She is the absolute queen of random comments. This mornings random one was,

'how long can you do an e for?'

'what do you mean an e?'

'you know, the letter e. How long can you do one for? I can do one for ages and ages because it starts my name.' (Erin)

blonderthanred Thu 18-Oct-12 12:14:38

Yes I made notes! Apparently I should make fists with my hands and stick them under my bottom to tilt me into the right position.

And I know I need to relaaaaax.... Trying to think calm hypno/yoga thoughts.

georgee Thu 18-Oct-12 12:15:50

Shelly grin. Braxton hicks in yourself or others? If your 'gas' had those sort of magical properties for other ladies it might be quite handy for those wanting to get things moving if we were all in that room together. Or maybe you could bottle it and sell it on eBay.

Shocker at 9 VQ! Thanks for the front bottom advice everyone! smile

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 12:20:27

Georgee wouldn't really want to sell it on ebay, it could be used as a weapon of mass destruction, grin bloody hell, I'd have Blair on my doorstep with a noose!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 18-Oct-12 12:21:38

Front bottom here too, but when DD is older we will use the correct terms. Probably will use willy for the boy, but when DSD was quite little she referred to Daddy as having a "sausage bottom" so that kind of goes in our household too.

Have just had an epic meltdown at DH over the DIY he keeps promising to do and never does. Now I am on mat leave am so much more aware of the state of the house. After wrestling the gloss paint and paintbrush from me, he has sent DD and I to bed for a nap. And promised to do some of the chores this weekend. Hormones + nagging = the promise of what I want.

Think we're almost there on names too. Either Thomas Hugo or Jack Rufus. Massive relief, especially as at one time DH was quite seriously advocating Cosmo Danger. Apologies if either of these are on anyone's list, but so not to my taste!

georgee Thu 18-Oct-12 12:25:57

MadamGazelle ... but then he could say 'Danger is my middle name' ...

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 18-Oct-12 12:27:47

Yes, DH thinks that is genius. I actually despair sometimes...

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 12:28:27

Lol grin

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 12:31:57

Firmly in denial still.


Please stop! Am sending DP out for 'supplies' soon.

Tis all in my back. Grrrr.

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 12:34:03

detective dont fight it, your body knows what its doing. go with it smile

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 12:35:37

The good thing is it could fix your fanjo Detective

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 12:36:13

Are you filling up your pool?

georgee Thu 18-Oct-12 12:38:53

Really sorry this isn't going to plan detective. Thinking of you and will stop being flip about internet videos etc and do something useful. Like some work. Take care and just see how it goes with an open mind. As pasties says, best not to fight it if it's really going to happen today!

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 12:38:54

True... It could also dastardly mangle said fanjo grin

I just want to go to Ikea sad DP said no...

No pool filling because I'm hoping it will just stop. I did manage an hours sleep but they woke me up. Pool not to be filled til later. I'm probably in for the long haul whenever it happens anyway.

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 12:39:52

I was in denial for 12 hours with DS so this could go on for some time yet grin

Iheartpasties Thu 18-Oct-12 12:41:32

Well good night y'all, I will check in the morning and maybe there will have been a baby or two born. Good luck for tomorrow ladies (who are being induced/swept/c-sectioned etc).

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 12:47:54

You might not have 12 hours Detective. I had 4 with my second (from start to finish).

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 12:48:26

Night Pasties

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 12:51:28

Been going on for 5 hours already but not changed much other than being a little more uncomfortable than at the start.

Because I've got a 10 year gap and haven't had a vaginal birth, long labour much more likely unfortunately!

blonderthanred Thu 18-Oct-12 12:51:36

Thanks Pasties, night.

ShellyBobbs Thu 18-Oct-12 12:59:49

Oh right, well at least get your candles lit and burners going. Am actually going to look at burners tonight on ebay because of you grin

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 18-Oct-12 13:05:33

shelly I always run away after a fart! Or waddle! Though like you I have done a couple of uncontrolable ones in front of DH. The mortification. Also, I have the pre fart Braxton Hicks! Sometimes it fools me into thinking it really is it. It no, is a fart brewing.

detective where are you? Too quiet. Or is it part of your getting out and about plan?

blonder good luck with your sweep, worked for me twice! Same day. mwuuhhhahahahahaha.

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 18-Oct-12 13:06:35

Oh, there you are I think my refresh page is a bit shite.

YellowWellies Thu 18-Oct-12 13:07:10

You ladies have made me laugh this morning. Arse stingers - my DH will love that term. I think I'm just going to use the term 'bits' when junior is young if a girl and willy if a boy - and then progress onto medical terms when about five or six. I think that's what my Mum used. I remember having a drunken conversation with pals as an adult about the terms their Mums used and some were HILARIOUS - twinkle, foofoo etc (one pal just could NOT sing 'twinkle, twinkle little star' with a straight face). I'm almost tempted to use the term 'fanjo' or 'vagine' though.... grin

So the Hotel Chocolat christmas catalog has just arrived this morning. It is in the excited and sweaty hand of this fat preggo bird. That's not a dangerous combination is it?

blonderthanred Thu 18-Oct-12 13:08:48

Thanks Sophia... <faints>

ValiumQueen Thu 18-Oct-12 13:09:39

detective I think it will take some time, but if it is gonna happen, it is gonna happen. Do not fight it, do your hypnobirthing stuff and chill! If the pains go then great, but if they don't, you need to look after yourself and your baby. DP is right to say no to ikea.

YellowWellies Thu 18-Oct-12 13:14:24

I wonder if Ikea give you vouchers if your waters break in store? M&S do...

<<sets cat amongst pigeons>> wink

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 13:18:44

Fuck it I'm off to M&S then... It's right next to Ikea grin

Trying to relax but getting wound up because surely I of all proletariat should know if this is it or not!! Frustrating myself!

TheDetective Thu 18-Oct-12 13:19:19

WTF?! That should clearly say people hmm

Wanna swap places detective? wink

Seriously though, good luck if this is it, and to everyone else who is either starting or waiting for sweeps or having their final day before c-sections smile

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 18-Oct-12 13:23:17

My girls used to call a penis a "boys" which I quite liked. Am not sure about Willy as DS is Willie.

But we just called the girls their bottom.

Am actually going out this afternoon!