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Due in dec 2012 - things that go BUMP in the night!

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WerewolvesDoTheFandango Mon 15-Oct-12 20:10:49

New thread here ladies!

How many threads is this?! Will be time for the baby one soon..... Going soooo slow!

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Mon 15-Oct-12 20:16:41

I know, I'm sure I've been pregnant forever! This is the problem with planned babies, no finding out at 25 weeks and nearly being done!

PurplePidjin Mon 15-Oct-12 20:18:54

6 1/2 weeks to go... It's going to be the longest of my life, isn't it!

I'm counting down to 38 weeks because it makes me feel better grin at least I know I won't go past that!

ellliebelle Mon 15-Oct-12 20:25:10

just marking my place smile

Evening ladies, feels like we're on a proper count down now doesn't it?!

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Mon 15-Oct-12 20:28:42

I'm counting down to 39 when ill be induced but that's still 9 weeks away. The Christmas countdowns are handy though for keeping tabs!

mwahmwah Mon 15-Oct-12 20:29:32

I want chocolate. There's none in this house. Kids are asleep and dh is at work, boo, no nipping out to spar then sad

emilyeggs Mon 15-Oct-12 20:31:08

Reaching over and marking my spot from the sofa

I've had my last real Zumba session sad I've started to ache a lot while doing it and me and my instructor decided that it was time I stopped. sad she has been lovely though and told me if i still wanna go down and wiggle a bit I can but she won't charge me and I have strict instructions on what I can't do!

Thanks for the new thread willyou/werewolf

HoneyMum21 Mon 15-Oct-12 20:33:49

Checking in.

Can't believe how slowly the weeks are going by!

emilyeggs Mon 15-Oct-12 20:39:08

My arm starting to hurt now, if someone passes the sobbing sofa can you leave me some banana bread sad

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Mon 15-Oct-12 20:39:11

Well done you got managing so long Stacey. I gave up at 26weeks as I can't be trusted to take it easy and I had developed a heart problem. I did aquanatal this week and really enjoyed it though! Bit more sedate grin

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Mon 15-Oct-12 20:39:59

got for

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Mon 15-Oct-12 20:42:01

Strokes emily's hair comfortingly. They bloody hurt don't they? I got bugger all sympathy too!

There's a jar of Nutella in my cupboard calling to me but my sugars have been high today and I must resist

pmgkt Mon 15-Oct-12 20:43:43

I've just lost half a tooth. Thank goodness for free dental care when pregnant, already got a cap booked in for after delivery due to xrays, think this could be another!

itsMYNutella Mon 15-Oct-12 20:44:52

Did somebody say Nutella??

<marks place and settles comfortably in to lurking position>

Here emily, I made some banana bread (had a couple of ageing ones hanging around) but it might have some raisins in... hope thats ok too smile

Bellaboo123 Mon 15-Oct-12 20:50:19

Just marking my place - love the title great for hallowe'en.

Urgh it is starting to drag 32 weeks tomorrow...

emily be prepared for dead arm for the next few days and watch how many people touch/you wack it - ouch!!! angry

MyDaydream Mon 15-Oct-12 21:10:50

Nine and a half weeks left here, I get the feeling its going to fly by really. Don't remind me about that when I'm nearly 2 weeks overdue and I'm moaning about how long it's been!
stacey sounds like you have a great instructor and I'm a little in awe you've managed so long, I'd have given up aged ago.

JoJoB77 Mon 15-Oct-12 21:19:45

Evening laydees and thanks for the new thread werewolves.

31 weeks today smile and i agree about it starting to go slow, feels like time is grinding to a halt. Im feeling so uncomfy today too & bump is so tight, its like i have a permanent watermelon shoved up my top. Cant quite believe it can get much bigger in the next 9 weeks, i think my akin will burst confused grin

JoJoB77 Mon 15-Oct-12 21:20:37

Akin??? I meant skin of course grin

I do have a great instructor it helps she has a few pregnant employees so she's used to watching out for us preggo ladies! Well I made it to 31+1 so I haven't done bad I suppose, still feel like sulking.

Right now a question for those of you who have flown in pregnancy, give me your tips please!! I'm totally clueless!

JoJoB77 Mon 15-Oct-12 21:30:29

The only thing i can recommend Stacey is to get up regularly & stretch your legs as it is so cramped on a flight. I also wore a pair of maternity support tights for the flight. Hope you have a lovely time smile

HoneyMum21 Mon 15-Oct-12 21:36:16

i was only about 9 weeks when we flew Stacey so i imagine your experience will be more difficult. But i was recommended flight socks (although i didn't bother - it was a shortish flight) Plenty of water (although that does mean more toilet trips) and dose yourself up with vitamin c/orange juice etc as planes are notorious places for picking up bugs because of the air being filtered round.

Ok so if I start orange juicing myself up now I should have a full tank for next Friday yeah? Lol

Midwife said I need to wear the flight socks and as its 6 hrs I should probably listen! Thankfully it's a daytime flight not night or early morning do I won't be tired let's hope

Now just need to work out where to buy flight socks! Lol

Secondsop Mon 15-Oct-12 22:46:30

Just checking in to the new thread.

emilyeggs Mon 15-Oct-12 23:16:37

Thanks fit bread and sympathy ladies, I've ventured off sofa for a cuddle with dh

Clarella Mon 15-Oct-12 23:39:48

Checking in.

Sorry to hear about your night ellie - a collegues who's autistic son I taught thought the same about mmr, as did many mothers at the time in my school also noticed a change around same time. We both did a very in depth course on autism over a year, essays each month etc. I had to do mmr and had to do quite a,lot of research on it. The Dr in question did very dodgy science and also was trying to sell his own separate vaccines. The media massively latched onto it and especially something Cherie Blair said at the time - leading everyone to think it the reports were bonefide. As pidg said, all the latest research on asd points to how the brain is structured and communicates with each different part, and that this is a genetically based thing. I read a report recently about the worries about the cohort of children least likely to have had mmr are now all freshers and they're warning about the slight potential for a mumps outbreak (didn't mention wc), there's already been increases recently in measles and rubella - much bigger dangers to unborn babies.

It is very hard to know what to.believe in.our very medicalised society (someone asked me at yoga if 'what I was doing was ok' - downward dog on wall - and I worried about starving baby of oxygen causing a problem all way home)
Remember that (as i understand it) the wc vaccine is filtered by the placenta, its your body getting the vaccine and it's the antibodies that are apparently passed on, (- there's diff sorts) and baby would have it at 2 mo anyway.

It sounds like it rings worrying bells for your dp but there must have been a lot of weighing up of the risks to decide to go ahead and vaccinate - and every single gp/medical person I know has had it.

I dunno if any of it helps

Clarella Mon 15-Oct-12 23:40:51

Sorry butter fingers.... but hope you're ok and he's ok soon too xx

Clarella Mon 15-Oct-12 23:41:54

Sorry its Emily..... butter head

Stacey They sell flight socks at boots in all airport terminals, where are you going from? I found the lounge at the airport brilliant for keeping away from crowds and having a relax before the flight, you can get tickets into most I think and they do complementary drinks and some food. There was a cinema room with huge comfy seats at one in gatwick where I watched notting hill. Definitely take water on board with you, buy after security! When I flew BA last pregnancy they got really arsey about me asking for water hmm they were terrible crew though so probably an exception.

strawberry we fly from gatwick, we normally do a lounge anyway to keep the kids contained, it was a lifesaver last time when our flight was delayed by 2 hrs. Food and drink on tap and stuff to entertain them!

I think I'm gunna try and get the socks before we go to the airport though. I can just imagine trying to put them on there! I have enough trouble with normal socks these days! hmm

(oh and obviously I'm not sleeping again! Urgh)

Yup, 3.30 is my wake up time!! For the last two days I've had a nap in the day then slept through and today no nap = no full night sleep. Ah good point about the socks, my bump was much smaller when I flew but now I am having trouble putting anything over my feet too.

I didn't bf dd and keep having dreams about bfing, I'm researching now, last time I was so sure of my decision to ff but I'm really unsure now and a little bit scared if I'm honest!! What if she doesn't get enough milk? What if I get mastitis? Or if we're up all night and I can't function to look after dd1 the next day? Can I just do it for 6 weeks?

JoJoB77 Tue 16-Oct-12 05:28:36

430 wake up time for me too, going to be so tired sitting at my desk later (tired emoticon)

I feel the same re bf strawberry. I tried bf DD but really struggled & ended up ff after a few days. Im thinking i will try again with this one as i may not be as stressed & overwhelmed. But like you im worried about everything already and hiw i will manage with a baby wanting feeding on demand and an 18 month old toddler who doesnt quite understand yet

My mind is racing, no wonder i cant sleep.

Saphiesgirl Tue 16-Oct-12 06:04:42

Hi Emily- just to second what clarella says, about autism. My sister has it so I was incredibly concerned about mmr for ds. Her traits began to show just after jab and we were convinced it was mmr. As mentioned above, the dr was discredited. Autistic traits show up around 13/14 months by coincidence because that's just the developmental stage of child, not mmr. Don't be hard on yourself.

Re bf, you can do it as long or short a time you like. I imagine it'll be easier than ff 2 nd time( once you've mastered it) because you don't need to mess with kettles, steriliser etc. packed lunch is ready to go when you are! Just sort toddler needs before you sit. I'm not under any illusions about my ds causing chaos though! Remember to get help if you need it though- not just midwife- breastfeeding network etc are better trained than standard midwives.

Youll know wee one getting enough if you always feed to demand, plenty of heavy wet nappies and weight gain.

Bf hard in early days, but easier long term. What you feed your baby is important, but your own health and sanity most important- don't let anyone feel bad whatever your choice.

Sorry I didn't mean such an epic post or to seem to rant about bf, just wanted to help.

Hope those awake are back to sleep, Im also struggling with random wake ups, been up since 5.20am, grrr!

Saphiesgirl Tue 16-Oct-12 06:06:18

Sorry, that should read don't let anyone make you feel bad for your choices. We're all trying our best!

Re breast feeding I didn't with dd but in going to give it a go this time. I'm going to try my hardest but if it starts effecting time with dd too much and I'm struggling I'm not going to beat myself up but will continue to express for as lung as possible. I'm hoping u get an easy one though grin I feel really selfish thinking about night time as dd only even woke 10-2-7 from birth blush

JoJoB77 Tue 16-Oct-12 06:42:04

I think im just going to try & see how it goes. I really beat myself up last time for not persevering but i hope i dont put muself under that much pressure this time.

emilyeggs Tue 16-Oct-12 07:06:10

Thanks clarella that's very helpful and kind of you to point out x. Who knows what's best, i can only go by the information given to me at the time. Dh is ok now, he was saying stuff like the government vaccinate the population and hurt a few to save the many but I pointed out its only the valuable who are getting the flu vaccine (free anyway) and not everyone.

Any hoo. On a nicer note, I hope all are well and rested x

emilyeggs Tue 16-Oct-12 07:09:07

Thanks saphie smile your up early! But not as early as others I see! Maybe my well rested comment was a bit premature

pmgkt Tue 16-Oct-12 07:44:28

Spotty I bf'd ds1 and he only woke 10 2 and 7 too so it can happen. I bf till 4 months then introduced extra bottles but not sure I'll last that long this time, as you say balancing existing children and feed times. Luckily ds was quite quick and only took about 5 min longer than a bottle so let's just see what happens.

emilyeggs Tue 16-Oct-12 07:57:14

I just caught a glimpse of myself side onwards in the mirror, I look like the abominable snowman sad

emilyeggs Tue 16-Oct-12 07:58:11

..... in my White fluffy dressing down

FriendofDorothy Tue 16-Oct-12 08:07:29

I am tired today sad

emilyeggs Tue 16-Oct-12 08:27:44

Hear you go friend, biscuit for energy wink

Can you have a nap later friend?

FriendofDorothy Tue 16-Oct-12 08:36:53

I have a really busy day so no nap for me today until I get home from work. I am knackered because I worked all day yesterday, had choir rehearsal, and tomorrow night I have a choir concert and I am also out the other evenings this week. Tonight is my only evening in. After tomorrow I will go on mat leave from choir which will help.

utopian99 Tue 16-Oct-12 09:20:38

I scared myself too Emily by catching a side view in the car door yesterday - now i know why the kitchen delivery man looked so horrified when i tried to help him unload the van... Little mini passed it's MOT first time, no issues, which never happens, so now feel even guiltier about buying a 'family' car to replace it. sad

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Tue 16-Oct-12 09:31:19

Ugh got a man coming from the estate agents today to photograph the house. I have never been less able to be arsed!

As I'm working from home today DP has obviously decided he doesn't have to do any tidying including moving his own bloody tea bags. I don't even drink tea <rage>

EggsMichelle Tue 16-Oct-12 09:42:23

Been up since 4.00 with a party in my womb, which conveniently ended when my alarm went off, devil child! Been out on my own with the dog(across the field so no dragging me on the lead) however he spotted a friend and off he charged, took ages for me to waddle across the field to get him, other owner must have thought I was incompetent (which I suppose I am when it comes to the dog!).

DM has convinced me that terry nappies are the way forward, going to be brave and give them ago, starter kit in tesco is only £27 so thought its was worth a go.

Secondsop Tue 16-Oct-12 09:43:38

Is anyone else going through a phase of just feeling really down? I know the end is in sight but I still have 5 weeks of work left and every day of going to the station is a struggle, I feel like nothing is ready in the house, I never know when I'm next going to have to replan everything for another medical appointment, I have to do my tax return otherwise it'll only be far worse trying to do it when the baby comes, I'm trying to sort out a changeover of tenants in my flat, we need a new front door and a burglar alarm, it's just never ending.

Clarella Tue 16-Oct-12 09:56:42

Glad you're both a bit happier em - I was worrying id gone on a bit and almost regurgitated the essay smile - I've been concerned that women are worrying about the jabs because of all that mmr thing, v glad press haven't mentioned a sniff of any 'doubts' etc. Tbh some of me thinks we are too clean in society (says she who flipped out at dust following bathroom demolishment last night, went to yoga to be cheered up and then felt a bloke accused me of child neglect due to a few lunges and downward dogs - 10 wk pregnant nurse friend repeated exactly what I would have said this time last year - 'bit o dust good for immune system' but somehow it doesn't work at the mo!) .... and all this cleanliness breeds stronger diseases/ allergies etc BUT none of us remember a time when it was both usual for women to both die in childbirth and for many children to die due to illnesses etc - except in 3rd world. Also, knowing that I wasn't immune to slapped cheek was probably more harmful stress wise than the actual risks (though the kids kept getting it at work, never seen it in 11 years)

Ok another essay.... ill stop now. blush

Sorry friend and people so tired, and insomnia ruling, me too - is anyone else sleeping only 4/5 hours in a whole day - I half doze after sleeping this amount of time so usually wake about 3 am - and not really napping, feel tired today but not so tired I can't do stuff? Thinking might need to drop thyroid meds again. At hospital in weds so will see, gonna tackle 'birth plan' now so I can ask them things.

PurplePidjin Tue 16-Oct-12 09:57:55

Michelle, have a look into other reusable options before you commit to terries. Modern cloth nappies are nothing like anything our parents got lumbered with smile

Stacks Tue 16-Oct-12 10:00:42

Wow, 3 pages to catch up on already! Quick post to mark my place, then an epic read back.

EggsMichelle Tue 16-Oct-12 10:11:50

Don't worry Clarella I mentioned the mmr discussion to my husband and he went on a 15min rant about how it was bollucks and how terrible the doctor and media (and more recently the Italian government) were for scare mongering.

EggsMichelle Tue 16-Oct-12 10:14:16

Pidj I did a lot of looking a few months ago at the modern reusables, but they are so stupidly expensive and might not fit Shrimpy, I decided to go for disposables. The draw of terry is they are not a huge financial investment if they don't work out

Checking in! Weighed myself for the first time ages.. I'll tell you now it is not advisable! Far far too many sausage rolls and cake. Hope everyone has a good day smile

Having a grumpy day! I've got a headache, I'm hungry and dd just dribbled all on her hand and wiped it down my face hmm

PurplePidjin Tue 16-Oct-12 10:18:53

I've got all mine preloved, Michelle, much cheaper!

So pleased someone else feels the same as me about bfing jojo and spotty. I know it's a really personal choice but last time it just didn't feel natural to me and this time I have come to terms with it a bit more, I would love to just give birth on my own and try and work it out myself than have a midwife and dh look on while I try as I'm quite introvert.

We just went to have a look at a school for dd and saw a teacher grab a child by the arm, don't think she'll be going there somehow.

Stacks Tue 16-Oct-12 10:48:10

Caught up!

My siblings and I were given the MMR I think, but not the WC jab as children. The doctor scared my mum about some link to epilepsy (which my uncle has) and so took his advice and didn't give us the jab. I remember having WC though, young as I was, and my brothers having it too. Scary time for my Dad (single parent by then) as both my little brothers had serious asthma.

So, I'm all for the WC and flu jabs, though haven't had the WC one yet. Hoping I'll get offered it at my MW appointment on Thurs.

I am so epicly pissed off this morning. I should have had my first NHS antenatal class, but my phone happily reminded me it was "Now" when I was on the bus to work, an hour from home. It's only a 2 hour class, so there was no point turning around to try and get there. I don't know why it's annoyed me so much, but I feel like crying I'm so angry at myself for forgetting. sad

I'm going to use re-usable nappies, but will buy (at least) one pack of disposables to last the first few days/weeks. I just want to know what size bump is going to be before I invest in a set of re-usables. I'll probably then get some second hand ones, or a 'starter kit' from the council with a selection of brands in to see which one fits better. We have a really good local family centre which do nearly new sales, as well as re-usable nappy days to go look at a selection of new ones, and sell pre-loved.

Got my fit to fly letter! Woohoo, can't Imagune going on an aeroplane next week though!

I'm using disposable though did use reusable some of the time with dcs, but I have no tumble dryer now so cba with the effort!

As for bf I really wanna try but seeing as the other 2 have managed perfectly well without it I won't beat myself up about it if I can't. I just don't want the fuss of bottles!

With dd I was adamant I wanted to ff and by the time I got to spend any time with her and bond it was too late to change my mind (or so I thought), so we'll see how it goes this time.

If anyone is buying a baby's first Christmas bauble Mamas and Papas have really lovely ones, I got dd one from there and will be doing the same this year for ds

MyDaydream Tue 16-Oct-12 11:20:08

utopian I survived with both parents and an aunt ferrying me round in minis as the family cars, my dad is a massive mini fan so I'm sure baby will be carried around in minis too! My dad is talking about getting him racing by 5! confused
I'm quite excited to try breast feeding although I'm going to find a group to get some advice before baby comes. I'm putting myself under no pressure and if it doesn't work then I won't force it but I think I'd be more disappointed if I didn't at least give it a go. Maybe a few visitors who've outstayed their welcome will be encouraged to leave if they feel uncomfortable by boob too.
DP wants to go buy his Halloween costume today, it's rainy and windy so I'm letting him sleep as long as he wants so we don't have to go! Maybe ill try and guilt some lunch out of him if he drags me out.

MyDaydream Tue 16-Oct-12 11:21:15

spotty I'd not even thought about a bauble but its such a lovely idea. Thanks for the tip.

CODwidow Tue 16-Oct-12 12:26:06

Hey everyone, not checked in for a while just been so busy with school and Xmas shopping plus getting ready for baby! But 32 weeks tomorrow and time is flying by. I had my jabs yesterday so slighty stiff arms today but not too bad, I did have reservations about having both together if I'm honest but have done lots of reading and I feel it was the right thing for me to do.

gilsbubbles Tue 16-Oct-12 13:21:01

Does anyone have any first-hand recommendations for ru-usable nappies. I've been doing a bit of research but it seems such a personal preference. Thinking of getting a few each of 2 types to try out alongside disposable to see if they suit (both me and little one)

WeeJo08 Tue 16-Oct-12 13:25:37

Hi everyone! Wow! 3 pages already! Slept well last night so feel good. TBH it's DH who's not sleeping so well. Worried about him as we have a lot on our plates over the next few months and he is quite stressed. Wish there was something I could do to help him - think he is also quite run down too.

Stacey Yay about the Fit to Fly certificate! You asked yesterday about tips for flying - I would definitely recommend having a cushion for your lower back as it really helped me on the flights we were on last month. I used a blow up camping one and it was great. I also second the buying water after security - the flight attendants were really nice and did bring water when I asked, BUT you are likely to get warm & thirsty whilst waiting to board and it is quite a while from getting to your seats and the cabin crew being released so it's a bit of a wait for water.

Spotty We saw the Mamas & Papas Christmas baubles last week too - they are so beautiful! Did you see the snow globes too? I loved them as well.

Re: MMR jab - when I was a child I apparently always had one of the three illnesses every time the vaccine time came around so I didn't get it until much older. Although, as a child of the early 80s I don't think the media storm and autism scare had happened yet. I was very poorly with the measles though - I suppose it's always worth noting that each of the illnesses can be very serious for little children. I had it when I was 3 and the doctor reckons that is what caused my short sightedness, as there is no history whatsoever of it in my family.

And lastly re: BF, totally agree with what everyone has been saying - I think the important thing is if Mum & baby are happy & healthy (which means not stressed!) I am going to try and BF but will (try to) not beat myself up if things don't work out.

Wowee - sorry for the epistle!!

Just seen the snow globes online they are lovely! I love over priced Mamas and Papas!

PurplePidjin Tue 16-Oct-12 13:35:18

Gils, I've gone for 2 parters as they're more likely to give a good fit. I've got a huge pile of prefolds and wraps (cotton bottoms), then collected a random selection of fitteds to try along with a few AIOs and pockets. Figure i can use the prefolds as overnight boosters if necessary smile i have friends with dc in reusables, so managed some proper advice rather than the flood you get trying to read forums!

WeeJo08 Tue 16-Oct-12 13:40:02

Me too! We still have £11 left on the Mamas & Papas voucher we used for our sling, so might use it for that and make up the difference. On the other hand, maybe we should use it for the My First Christmas Bauble....

DH fell in love with this too: www.mamasandpapas.com/product-star-pramsuit/s0009761/type-s/ But it is THIRTY FIVE POUNDS!!!

Oh it's very sweet though..... I have got this but I got it for 99p on eBay! I will definitely be getting the Bauble they are really big, and the nicest I've seen. I still have mine from when I was a baby smile

emilyeggs Tue 16-Oct-12 14:02:28

seconds I felt quite down this morning and got a bit teary but not to sure why (dh had resolved our quarrel the night before so wasn't that) might just be hormones. I feel better now after a nap and a pice of chocolate dh bought into me smile

Saphiesgirl Tue 16-Oct-12 14:18:33

I'm just home from shopping and mum bought me that star pram suit as an early baby gift! We got it in fudge type colour as still firmly in team yellow! Really wish I knew so I could prepare if it's a girl! Ds hardly wore snow suits as born in spring and weather gorgeous that year. Won't get away with that this time!!

giraffe213 Tue 16-Oct-12 14:19:12

Hi everyone, I haven't posted for ages but have been keeping up quietly! Moved house a few weeks ago so I was offline quite a bit too.
I'm going to use reusable nappies (bought them already so I'll have to!) and I went for Little Lambs with motherease wraps. I was recommended that combination on the nappy lady website and most reviews said they're bomb proof, the main negative is that they're 'boring' which is fine with me. A friend who used cloth nappies some time ago said Motherease wraps are the best, which seems to be confirmed by most internet reviews.
People generally advise getting just a few of each so you can try them out, which does make sense but I guess I got carried away so I now have a complete stash ready and waiting, unless I need to buy new wraps if the second-hand ones aren't fully waterproof any more. I got most of mine in a massive bundle on gumtree (had to pay about £15 P&P but it was still a bargain) along with a few similar but different from a nearly new sale and some very complicated looking freebie hand-me-downs from a friend.
I think the general consensus is that a 2-part system (separate nappy and separate wrap) is more leakproof but a bit more of a faff, whereas the all-in-ones or pocket nappies are easier to use but more likely to let you down, especially at night time.
Like Stacks I'm planning to use disposables for the first few weeks though! Partly because most of my nappies are really for 10lb and up, but also because I can't imagine doing cloth nappies in the hospital and sending DH home to launder them effectively, if we end up staying in for more than a day.

utopian99 Tue 16-Oct-12 14:38:34

Michelle try emailing the nappy lady, she's really helpful and can tailor advice to your lifestyle i.e. Tumble dryer or not, etc.. We've been looking at little lambs and bumgenius nappies - one of the nct class brought some in last week and i was really impressed!

spotty I saw them in Mamas and Papas yesterday! I want one! But had just purchased a gorgeous overpriced cardi from there so felt I had been extravagant enough!

I've sobbed today, took an hour to calm down. Bloody XH doing things to spite me that have a negative impact on the dcs. I won't go into it here as sure I've bored you lot enough with my whinges. But I think hormones has more than a small part to play in it as usually i would just get angry whereas I am still really upset and wish I didn't have to put up with his rubbish for the next 12 years!

PurplePidjin Tue 16-Oct-12 15:59:18

Stacey, ex-BIL has 15 years and counting, want me to add yours to the list of people requiring castration by rusty garden implement?

Cookies if you buy it online it doesn't count as spending money wink

I've finally hoovered and dusted. Still lots of mess though, it really stresses me out! DP does help out with making a mess but it's ha;f heartedly or things just hidden in a cupboard rather than put away grrrrr

Oh pidj what a very kind offer, I feel I shall have to graciously accept! Lol

Feeling a bit better now as this time there is no negative impact and he's wasted a lot of money on solicitors for no reason! DH has put me straight lol as well as calling him an unhappy cunt

itsMYNutella Tue 16-Oct-12 16:25:15

Stacey and anyone else flying - you can take an empty bottle (any size) through security, as long as there is no liquid inside it it isn't a problem. So if you have a bottle at home and want to take it with you feel free. What I tend to do (depending on airport and what restaurants they have there) is go somewhere like a Pret, buy a sandwich and ask really nicely if they could re-fill my bottle there - restaurants usually have tap water available for their staff and I don't mind tap water at all.

Otherwise the cheapest water at airports is usually the 500 or 750ml "one water" which is often sold at the World Duty Free shopping bit - it raises money for a water charity in Africa I think... but compared to WHsmith and places it (at least used to be when I flew a bit more regularly) is a good deal cheaper.

HTH smile

itsMYNutella Tue 16-Oct-12 16:34:45

Oh as a side note - I only flew often (once or twice a month) because it was the first year DP and I were together (I lived in London and he lived in Nuremberg- since he is German) now we both live in Germany. grin
But it really bugged me paying so much for a bottle of water! I often travelled in the early morning so a good coffee and a big bottle of water were very good at making me feel a bit more awake smile

MaMaPo Tue 16-Oct-12 17:43:25

First day of annual leave today as a process of 'tailing off' towards mat leave (7 weeks to go) and it was completely shit. Some pretty serious and stressful family stuff emerged on the weekend and I've not managed to help one bit despite a lot of time, effort and heartache. Then a visit to my consultant, after which I now feel more confused than ever about birthing options. Then off to get pertussis jab from the GP, who whinged at me because I'd been booked in to see him instead of the nurse ('my time is too valuable to do this!' - his actual words - what a cock). Then trawling round the supermarket, where I started crying because of a really sad podcast I was listening to. Now I'm at home, finishing off a delicious soup I made for a friend who recently had her baby, though I can't go and see her anyway due to aforementioned family stress, so not sure why I'm bothering with it still.

Anyway. A crap, crap, ridiculously shit day. And that's my day off! Luckily I get to go to work tomorrow.

At least I have my lovely husband coming some at some stage to look after me...

Clarella Tue 16-Oct-12 17:46:55

Sorry your x is being an idiot Stacey biscuit and wine in a few months

I need matchsticks for my eyes. Builders going soon then I can un-duct tape the bedroom door and have a nana nap.

Had good chat with one of my range of 'doulas' around me (my best lady) and getting birth plan clear in head (with plan b and c!), main thing is water for me (though know it may not happen and would happily have an epidural if nec!) And I want to be active as poss. Feels like a plan for the log flume so far!

Clarella Tue 16-Oct-12 17:49:42

Ooohh sorry mamapo, what a silly gp too, maybe thimbleful of wine now? Xx

Oh mamapo I can't believe your GP said that! Anything you're particularly confused about with regard to birth plans?

MaMaPo Tue 16-Oct-12 18:07:32

Yes, ridiculous GP. I just stared him down and said 'You need to take it up with your staff.'

Spotty, I'm just struggling a bit with evidence. There's so little out there, and I am very evidence-minded, and due to the dearth of good evidence have been talking to friends and gathering anecdata (which doesn't sit well with me to begin with). I asked him about birthing pools and the Epino after being interested in both, and he was blunt about the Epino having no evidence as to safety, and mentioned concerns about pools being ineffective in reducing tearing and may increase risk of infection. I just felt as though my plans were shrinking, which is a bit of an overstated response. I think I'll email him to ask for references, as I may still opt to have some time in the pool if not the birth itself (if there is evidence of analgesia and reduced labour time). And then my next thing will be to stop thinking about birth plans (about which I have been tremendously relaxed) and start thinking about finding out more about parenting, settling etc.

Bah. In some ways I think it wouldn't have mattered what the doctor had said, I was in a bad mental state and so anything might have been upsetting.

I just ate a whole bag of Jelly Belly beans to make myself feel better (and now feel a bit sick).

Gosh, I can't help you with your questions but if you post in Childbirth I think you would get lots of information to enable you to make an informed decision.

Clarella Tue 16-Oct-12 18:21:42

Mamapo, I like evidence but I also am learning (though have evidence too) that the more you feel in control of choices the better, though as you maybe like evidence to feel in control ... confused - he sounds a bit sniffy and like he just enjoys popping peoples bubbles.

Anecdata but woman I sat next to and never spoken to at yoga last night (but bumps get attention) volunteered entire giving birth experience (bumps trigger that) and said the pool made a huge difference to her labour pain. Would this also help with tearing, simply being more 'relaxed'? plus two other pool fans said same today.

Mws are really pushing pools, why would they if not that great? (sorry if there's something else I've missed about your circumstances)

WeeJo08 Tue 16-Oct-12 18:25:28

Can't believe your doctor said that, Mamapo - what a knob! Hope the family stuff gets sorted soon. brew

Did a bit of shopping after my meeting this evening as was beside Brent Cross. Got new maternity PJs for me from Mothercare - ones with long sleeves smile Also couldn't resist picking up some baby stuff - have any of you heard of "bundlers" - my friend recommended them to me. They're basically like little long night dresses with elasticated bottoms, so their wee feet are covered but then you can just pull them up for middle of the night nappy changes, without bothering with poppers. They can be worn by boys or girls. I got one in John Lewis and a two pack in Mothercare:

www.johnlewis.com/230591844/Product.aspx

I also got these which I know are ridiculously unnecessary & impractical BUT I couldn't resist them blush

www.mothercare.com/Mothercare-Unisex-Reindeer-Baggies/LW2652,default,pd.html?cm_sp=ProductFeatures-_-Category%2520landing-_-Mothercare%2520Unisex%2520Reindeer%2520Baggies

MyDaydream Tue 16-Oct-12 18:34:12

mamapo what an awful doctor you appear to have, can you complain to the practice manager about him saying that to you just so they're aware they've got a complete arsehole on their staff list?
DP has been off work today and got into a super cleaning mode, I've been in bed feeling awful and am dreading going downstairs. All I've heard for the last 2 hours is singing, banging and rustling.
Need to get up and claim the tv for bake off, I think he thinks he's watching the football, but since its his fault we still have no Internet for catch up I think I'm in the right here.

HoneyMum21 Tue 16-Oct-12 18:43:25

Sorry for those of you who've had a difficult day. biscuit

I am utterly exhausted- work from 8-2 then met up with my mum and only just got home. She did buy me a cosy dressing gown for in hospital which was nice of her.

We had antenatal class yesterday and on top of the usual instilling fear in us they did say they fully recommend having a babymoon when out of hospital and not seeing anyone for a few days while we get to know the baby. I've also put a blanket ban on anyone staying with us overnight for the first couple of months. Basically MIL is the only one who would invite herself rather than waiting to see how we're doing and if we can manage people coming to stay so i've put my foot down and said no-one is staying as i can't deal with her telling me what i'm doing wrong and complaining that the baby crying kept her awake.

MaMaPo Tue 16-Oct-12 18:47:58

Clarella, I don't think my consultant is sniffy - I think he's doing his job, which is to keep on top of the literature (and contribute to it), then use it to guide his practice. I'd hate to be thought of as sniffy when I used evidence to make decisions. And of course MWs may be pro-birthing pools, but that doesn't mean they know about the overall risks and benefits of their use (because the research is lacking, not because they're ignorant or anything) and it does mean they rely on anecdata as much as anyone (although with a larger sample size).
Interestingly, he said that his hospital have had to shrink the number of pools on offer as there wasn't a lot of take-up from parents.

Basically, what we need is MORE SCIENCE! smile

Thank god for GBBO tonight. My husband has been reading about the science of baking (why yes we are nerds) and keeps interjecting with comments about the chemistry of eggs when we watch it.

Clarella Tue 16-Oct-12 19:01:51

Sorry Mamapo my sleep deprived brain thought it was the gp saying about pools, if consultant is of the opinion then fair enough! God I really am.struggling!

Most people I meet who aren't keen on pools worry about the poo in the pool.

Clarella Tue 16-Oct-12 19:13:39

As in, I can see how infection can.be a risk potential risk. I'm not sure if id prefer to be on land when final push happens, just for a bit of stability and less slippy and a pile of pillows or bed to grip onto.....

MaMaPo Tue 16-Oct-12 19:17:20

Oh, no worries - I would have definitely been more likely to dismiss the message if it had been my irritable GP who spoke up. As it was, he said 'So, you're pregnant, are you?' while he sat in front of my notes stating 'LMP March 2012; EDD Dec 2012' and with me plus bump filling up the room. Knob.

acjfluff Tue 16-Oct-12 20:09:35

Hello all!

It's been a very long time since I've been on here due to wedding and house move. 2 big ticks, now just need to have a baby! grin

8 weeks to go and I feel just as unprepared as ever.

I hope you're all doing well and are in good health. I'll post properly once our broadband is in (seriously, BT have been rubbish) and try to catch up on what you've been up to then. I think I must've missed a thread or two...

Yay congratulations MRSfluff grin

Mummycox Tue 16-Oct-12 20:38:54

Congratulations Mrsfluff!

Weejo did you hear that if you don't have a John Lewis nearby and you do have a waitrose they'll deliver to the waitrose. Which I thought was a very clever idea - given I live in the middle of nowhere (that has a waitrose). I do love the idea of a Bundler, surely poppers are a faff and a half at 3am?!

Thanks for the thread smile

ellliebelle Tue 16-Oct-12 21:59:36

Congrats fluff smile

Ive just eaten a second tea tonight. Ooops my weight gain has been minimal so far but im guessing it wont stay that way if i continue like this smile

WeeJo08 Tue 16-Oct-12 22:13:09

Mummycox I didn't know that! What a good idea!

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Tue 16-Oct-12 22:39:47

Congrats fluff!

I am deeply uncomfortable tonight, bambino f is trying to burrow his way out through my left side! I keep leaping up yelping while DP looks at me like hmm. He's been raving it up pretty much non-stop for the last 4 hours!

Secondsop Tue 16-Oct-12 23:13:46

Congratulations fluff!

Damn, the child's wardrobe I wanted on eBay is no longer available. Back to looking again... At this rate we'll have nowhere to put the baby's stuff when he arrives.

FriendofDorothy Wed 17-Oct-12 01:00:34

I am wide awake. This is bad. Wednesday is busy!

monsterchild Wed 17-Oct-12 01:03:44

Werewolves I must have your twin child. He is trying to kick his way out through my left ribs, I think. I keep being awakened by him doing jumping jacks or something! It's pretty annoying.

I'm awake, FriendofDorothy, as it's only just 6 pm here.

Urgh awake again. Tomo is busy really need to get my act together and sleep!!!!

HoneyMum21 Wed 17-Oct-12 04:50:51

Wide awake worrying about bump as I don't think I've felt much movement the past couple of days confused and don't know what to do. DH thinks I'm being paranoid - which I prob am.

Walnut8 Wed 17-Oct-12 05:22:42

Gosh terrible couple of days - DH and DD both sick. Luckily I seem to have avoided it, but have had next to no sleep and am very close to losing it. Seconds (I think it was you), I also get very down from time to time during preg. A bit of a moody mess actually, up and then down, esp without sleep. You seem to have a lot going on too and a lot to deal with with this pregnancy, so take it easy on yourself.
I feel for those on low carb or GD diets as I think without the carb hits I would often be pretty bummed!

Definitely disposables for this girl. Especially as DD is still in nappies most of the time (trying to potty train, but DD isnt at all interested, urgh).

Had an ultrasound this morning and estimated weight at 40 weeks is 8'3 pounds or 3.8 kilos which is a pound bigger than DD but still manageable - not the 10 lb baby I was expecting given my bump size!!! So big sigh of relief.

Congrats Fluff!!

Walnut8 Wed 17-Oct-12 05:29:52

Honeymum, if you are worried, definitely ring your midwife or consultant or the labour ward at the hospital you are booked in at. In my experience they are more than happy to do a quick scan. It's probably nothing, but better to get it checked out. I take it that you've tried drinking a cold drink or some OJ?

Walnut sorry for the illnesses! Dd is nowhere near ready for potty training, which is a shame but I'm just going to wait until she refuses to wear a nappy grin she rarely tells me when she's done a poo!

honey I agree do the whole cold drink thing etc and if still worried get checked out.

I've got to go to the hospital today to see diabetes nurse and specialist mw. Mw didn't want me going more than two weeks without seeing anyone confused so will get to hear the heartbeat

Barbeasty Wed 17-Oct-12 07:59:11

Weejo and delivery to Waitrose is free, however much/ little you order. A great standby if you realise you need the odd thing.

I'm really tired after DD woke at 2 with a bad dream. Took me ages to get back off. And a boring training course today, which I'll probably be late for as I'm on the train. (actually I know I'll be a few minutes late if the train is on time...) But then off to collect my new car this afternoon. Poor DH doesn't understand why I'm not as excited as him. I just want a quicker journey home!

Mamapo- have a look through the NICE documents. There's loads of stuff in there about statistical differences in types of birth. I know there was lots in the c section guidance, but can't remember if it covered water.

Our local consultant unit is looking and putting a pool in one delivery room, in addition to the 2 in the attached mlu, and 2 other mlus in the county each have 2 pools.

PurplePidjin Wed 17-Oct-12 08:12:19

I feel sick sad

The gas people wrote to me a couple of months ago saying the pipes need replacing. Fair enough. Last Wednesday from 8am there were 2 men in hi vis jackets prowling around. Eventually arrived at my door (open to allow carpet fitters access, they originally tried to just walk in but nice carpet man stopped him) mid morning, and high-handedly informed me they would be coming to replace my meter and they needed to look around - said as he walked towards me so i was forced to back off. Discovered that planned place doesn't work for my property. I said i would consider giving permission provided i was informed officially in writing.

Thursday they knocked at 8.30 am (having been prowling around since 8 again) to say they wouldn't be doing as much.

Monday they came back, trailed a nice trippy wire across the terrace and cranked up the generator. At 8am. They started drilling in the walls.
Continued yesterday, they are fitting a new gas pipe externally - it goes across each flat above the front door. It's hideous.

At no point have i (owner) or my mum (joint owner) been informed or consulted. I've seen no ID, nor ny plans, nor been notified of work. Just a slightly intimidating pair peering through my front window from early morning.

Confrontation ahoy, they're not here yet...

<cries>

pidj that sounds awful! I feel for you, not needed now!

Well didn't get much sleep last night, had to get up early to take DH to work, school run in a minute, then off to dentist, then gotta pick DH up after a docs appointment, then school run (x 2 because of after school club). I just want to sleep!!! Lol

PurplePidjin Wed 17-Oct-12 08:29:15

Still not here hmm

It wasn't till i spilled all to dp and my mum last night that i realised I'm not being pg and hormonal! Should have put my foot down earlier angry

Secondsop Wed 17-Oct-12 08:32:07

Oh pidj the gaspipe business sounds awful. I hope it works out ok. The last thing you need at present.

PurplePidjin Wed 17-Oct-12 08:35:32

I just want them to get here now so i can tell them to fuck off (minus the swearing, obviously)

I really thought it was me being hormonal, not them being cunts unreasonable!

EggsMichelle Wed 17-Oct-12 08:38:44

pidj I suggest you arm yourself with an umbrella and refuse to let them past without their ID, then contact the gas board with their name and report them for not having their ID on display.

Got the cot arriving today, and picking up the car seat base this evening, think that's everything bought, iv never been so organised!

DH and DF are sick with a virus, so iv retreated back home to avoid their sickness, they can be ill together.

Post man has just delivered my Tori Amos album, so excited to play Shrimpy magical piano!

FriendofDorothy Wed 17-Oct-12 08:52:03

I have had the most horrendous night's sleep. I had just dropped off when The Mister came to bed and woke me up, then I couldn't go back to sleep. Then my cousin who lives with us scalded her foot at about 1.30am. Poor thing, it must have been really painful but she managed to wake the entire house. Of course it's alright for her - she works part time and can stay in bed. I have a nightmare day to be tired today as I have to see a potentially difficult and violent client for assessment. Bugger, bugger, bugger.

Oh, and I have been sitting here panicking that I can't feel much movement. Winston is probably jusy asleep!

WeeJo08 Wed 17-Oct-12 08:57:01

DH & I are throwing a sickie today [shocked] Both quite rundown & snotty so a rest day is very much appreciated but it still feels very very naughty. Haven't had any sick days before.

Secondsop Wed 17-Oct-12 09:02:30

I'm coming down with something too - it's clearly the season for it! Really don't want to miss any more days of work though because I've missed loads already during the pregnancy.

HoneyMum21 Wed 17-Oct-12 09:19:47

friend I'm in the panicky mode as baby is being quiet too but, as DH keeps reminding me, the more we get stresse out about it, the less likely we are to feel movement (something about tensing muscles). I'm at work at the min but gonna lie down and drink some more orange juice when I get home. If that doesn't work I'll be naughty, bring out the big guns amid try some cold diet coke. If that doesn't work I'll be calling the maternity unit ad panicking at them!

Sorry for all of those feeling ill and sicky today. My chest seems to be getting bad again but nowhere near as bad as it was so as log as I don't cough hard enough to crack another rib I'll be happy!

FriendofDorothy Wed 17-Oct-12 09:26:52

I have to admit that I have been bad and had a diet coke most days for the last week. I am massively craving it. The baby goes nuts for the sugar and the cold

2blessed Wed 17-Oct-12 09:27:54

Weejo I've ordered the mothercare and JL bundlers too, I think they're a fab idea.
Hope everyone starts to feel better soon and sorry to hear about the gaspipe business pidj.
I'm just plodding along really, marking the days until I go off on maternity leave. Not much sleep as usual but I think I'm getting used to it. Have negotiated working from home 2 days a week which is great. Just had porridge with hot buttered white toast and smeared the porridge onto the toast. Tasted sooo good. And that's about it for me... Have a good one everyone

ellliebelle Wed 17-Oct-12 09:30:42

Must have been a night for bad sleep sad i dropped off then dh came to bed and disturbed me sad just after midnight dd came i she had had a bad drea then several times between that and 5.30 i was awake with heartburn/aching back/spd pain sad then dd1 came in at 5 she felt unwellso we let her get in with us. Que dd2 waking up crying for her sister took 20 mins to settle her and she still ended up in with us at 6.30 sad luckily dh gotbup withbthem at 7 and left me in bed till 15 mins ago when he had to go to work. I still feel rubbish though sad

Dp is at work and he's really annoying me still hmm sorry to rant but best I do it here than to him....last night I asked him to get the sausages out the freezer and instead of getting the pack on the top shelf he managed to dig around and find two different types that have been there for too long and get them out instead. I just found his towel on the floor from last night and there was a worm on the kitchen floor :-/ which is his fault because he opened the back door and put his football stuff out (left it all out in the rain haha) and he had toast last night without considering the fact we might need some bread for lunch and he left the marmite and butter out all night which just pisses me off angry

blush

2blessed Wed 17-Oct-12 09:46:42

honeymum I understand where your DH is coming from. I had a meltdown just after I moved last month and ended up going to the hospital as I wasn’t feeling much movement from LO. Thankfully everything is fine but I was stressing myself out so much about it that I probably didn’t help. All easier said than done though I know. Cold water always seems to work for me if I’ve not felt any movement for a while. No chance of that at the moment though, it feels like there is a permanent zumba class going on in my belly! If only I had the energy to join in… grin

MyDaydream Wed 17-Oct-12 10:12:54

Sorry to hear all of you who are ill and struggling to sleep. I've had that feeling in the back of my nose and throat that tells me I'm going to get poorly but it's not progressed yet. To be honest it's been like that for over a week so I'd quite like it to decide whether to flourish into a proper cold or just go away. I hate itchy throat.
pidj good luck in your confrontation.
spotty that sounds like something my DP would do especially butter not back in the fridge, I can completely understand your anger. It's a family trait here though, I'm just crossing my fingers I can instil some common sense into DS when he's older. Whenever DP has the day off he'll spend it in a cleaning up mood that just leaves me with twice as much to do the next day clearing away the mess his cleaning causes. Yesterday he unpacked some boxes, left half the contents on the kitchen counter and the rest went back in the garage. Or should I say the useful stuff went back in the garage the crap went on the counter. He got pissed off when I told him he'd make a fabulous hoarder, but since he still has his first wallet with every bank, ID and loyally card he's ever owned in it and refuses to throw it away because of the sentimental value I don't think he can argue too hard! (Turns out I needed a rant too!) although that didn't annoy me as much as him agreeing to watch football on +1 so I could watch the Bake Off final then him still insisting on watching the will they/won't they play commentary even though he knew within minutes it had been postponed.
I have my 28/31 week midwife appointment and I don't want to go. I'm just feeling lazy.

I'm just in the foulest of moods now! Just found a nappy at the bottom of the stairs that he had thrown down last night! Opened dd's curtains to find her window open even though I specifically asked if he had closed it! Wow MyDaydream would he even notice if you threw it all away when he wasn't looking?! My hospital appointment isn't until 1:30 thinking of popping into Sainsbury's for lunch first with dd seeing as we have no bread....

MyDaydream Wed 17-Oct-12 11:05:22

spotty he gets it out occasionally and looks through it hmm. He's hidden it away in his computer room now I think so I won't find it. I have a ruthless mother when it comes to clearing out who would help me tidy my room with a great system of if I have to think if I need it I probably didn't, and 8 moves in 6 years means I'm fairly streamlined. His mum just kept everything and put it in the loft, she now has 3 DCs crap up there (although 2 are still at home) and keeps getting turned down when she asks if we want something she's found.
"No we don't need DPs pimp hat from Halloween 3 years ago, throw it out"
"Well I'll put it back in the loft just in case"

I thought my appointment was at 11 and its 11.30, I've been here 10 minutes already. I also came with a full bladder so I could give a sample since I forgot to pick a pot up when I made the appointment. Their toilet is out of order sad.

Queenofsiburbia Wed 17-Oct-12 11:11:46

GRRR at high handed bullying gasmen Pidj. You are not being hormonal, I think give them a piece of your mind & suggest legal action if they proceed with ugly pipe work.

I'm slowly recovering from horrendous bout of gastric flu which lasted 48 hours & !!TMI alert!! consisted of at least hourly trips to bathroom, night & day. If anyone else gets it just be aware that it's very contagious & I've been told to avoid hospitals, babies, pregnant women (!) and the elderly for at least 3 days after symptoms go.

Phew, finally off the crackers & water diet now!

Good news, we're moving! grin

MyDaydream Wed 17-Oct-12 12:41:23

queen glad your getting better, that sounds horrendous. Good luck with your move.
Back from the midwife and realised when I left I only have 3 appointments left before my due date an one of those is my 40 week one. Now I'm a bit worried! It was the first time I met my new one since moving and she seems really nice, I was a bit worried about it since the nurse I saw last week was useless and had been expecting the MW to be the same.

PurplePidjin Wed 17-Oct-12 13:17:08

Got back from knitting group and they'd done it anyway. So i rang the board and told them they had 1 hour to get their staff off my property or I'd be calling the police re trespass and criminal damage

<hides behind sobbing sofa>

Bellaboo123 Wed 17-Oct-12 14:04:09

GO pidjin too bloody right!

Can't stop eating today....mmmmmmm food!

Warning I am about to go off on a mega rant and figured this might be the best place to do it....

I FINALLY got to see the specialist mental health MW today - I was referred at my 8 week booking in appointment and I'm 33+3 today... great start.... I arrived on time, despite a shit nights sleep, sciatica and horrid heart burn all night. After 25 minutes of waiting the receptionist tried to find MW - turns out she was at another hospital and thought my appointment was an hour later. Er, no, I spoke to her directly to arrange it!
So she rocks up an hour later, can't find my medical notes, confuses me with another patient, doesn't switch off her mobile phone during the appointment and hands me a box of empty tissues when I'm crying. In the end, we got there and it wasn't too bad. I got some of the reassurance that I needed and a care plan is being put in place for me should I need it after LO is born. BTW, she did apologise for being late.

And you know how when you are really annoyed, other things tick you off too? Whilst I was in the waiting area, another patient turned up to see the same midwife. The gobby receptionist said in a loud voice so everyone could hear, I was also one of the mental health patients and she could go and sit with me! Put the crazy ones in a corner together so they don't infect the normal people! Anyone who says YABU, I will implode!

<and breathe>

Sorry ladies, had to let off steam somewhere blush

PurplePidjin Wed 17-Oct-12 15:17:08

Coffee, major breach of confidentiality - both the directing another patient to you and taking calls during an appointment.

Rockets firmly up arses, meeting with senior engineer tomorrow morning. I will be represented by one extremely pissed off Dad who doesn't like to be fobbed off (ie, what the senior senior engineer i just spoke to tried to do) plus work to be halted in the mean time so no workmen peering in the window or drilling walls at sparrow fart!

I may have laid it on a bit thick about my pregnancy and elderly ndn's mh issues blush

All went well at the hospital had a really good chat with my lovely mw about the birth this time and am hoping it won't be as bad as last time. She also gave me some infor on expressing colostrum and suggested sweeps from 37 weeks in the hope that will make me go into labour 'naturally' avoiding all the nasty hormones etc

My back is so painful I think I might cry sad

cookies what a nightmare! The whole thing sounds awful, I hope you're sitting at home having a nice cup of tea and biscuits!

Good for you pidj you must be royally fed up with all this

EggsMichelle Wed 17-Oct-12 16:04:01

Oh dear Coffee that's appalling practice from the receptionist and nurse, sounds like a challenge to break as many NMC code of conduct points as possible. Perhaps they need to review their position as a CPN if they can't even keep up with their appointments. I suppose the positive that a care plan has been put into place is a bonus, but do you feel supported and that you feel you can approach them when ever you need?

My cot arrived about an hour ago, but need to wait for DH to come home tomo to put it together. Thought I would have take away tonight, but can't decide between kebab or curry?

Bought nipple cream, fun times!

EggsMichelle Wed 17-Oct-12 16:05:10

And well done pidj' you stick that gas board in their place!

utopian99 Wed 17-Oct-12 16:48:29

Bit late off the mark but congratulations
mrsfluff!
Also good luck for tomorrow pidj..

Went to our breastfeeding session with the NCT yesterday and they really emphasized the importance of skin-to-skin, and maybe dh and I are being simples but I would have thought it was a given that that's what you do anyway?

kate2boysandabump Wed 17-Oct-12 17:33:01

Not been able to post much recently real life has got in the way, very busy time here.

Had a mw check up last week and baby all fine, measuring just right and a happy heart beat, but I had ++ for glucose and + for ketones, so have had a flea in my ear from the mw about not looking after myself properly blush

Been to physio this week and I've been referred for hydrotherapy, which sounds very relaxing. SHe also gave me crutches for when I need them and some proper training on how to use them for stairs, seats etc. and referred me to orthotics for a proper back brace so I can continue with the school run a bit longer. She is so much better then the people I had last time. Feel very positive about it all.

I had my flu jab last Friday and it still hurts sad Does anyone else's feel itchy?

Today I bought maternity pads and breast pads, good times! I got them in Boots which are currently buy 1 get 1 half price, so quite a saving and lots of bottles and breast pumps were half price too.

Pidj That's terrible, glad your dad is supporting you.

Congratulations Mrsacjfluff Was wondering if I had missed your wedding
smile

Utopian They mean the baby should be naked, so all its skin is against yours smile At delivery I had both of mine tucked up in my nightie for a good while after they were born. It's a lovely, cuddly, if slightly wet and slippery feeling

Hi Pidj, sounds like people are ticking you off too, hope it gets sorted.

Hello to you too Eggs, I agree with you, its good to have something in place, but it doesn't fill me with confidence. I'd love to make a stinking complaint but with my due date coming up and several appointments between now and then I'm afraid to rock the boat TBH. I shall smoulder and fume in silence angry. Great that your cots arrived BTW, exciting times!

HoneyMum21 Wed 17-Oct-12 18:06:54

Well I'm sitting in maternity assessment as registrar decided I might be going into premature labour so waiting for results of a swab. Fun times.

PurplePidjin Wed 17-Oct-12 18:09:59

First thing i asked when the ectopic heartbeat thing was first discovered was whether it would affect skin to skin blush it's my one definite in the birth plan, though

Dp just got in from work, apparently the workmen are still here because they're taking the pipes down again. I appear to have had an effect shock

Personally, i don't give a stuff hiw many freegolders give what kind of permission. It is not acceptable to send jobsworths workmen to drill holes in and erect industrial-looking pipe work on someone's home angry if dp had been here there would have been actual bloodshed i like my way despite the tears behind the scenes

PurplePidjin Wed 17-Oct-12 18:11:28

<<hugs>> and <<slow roast chicken sandwiches>> Honey. hope it's a false alarm!

Barbeasty Wed 17-Oct-12 18:12:45

Oh Honey, good luck and hope everything's ok.

Keep us updated Honey there's lots they can do now if it is PL smile hopefully it's just a urine infection!

EggsMichelle Wed 17-Oct-12 18:48:31

Good luck Honey, keep us posted on your progress.

Cookie if you are not confident with the nurse, you need to call the team manager and ask to see someone else next time, it's not a difficult procedure, there will be other CPNs available and it is clearly stipulated within your rights as a client to have a choice of who you see. All thought I am ward based, it is the same rules that apply within community teams, mental health care does not work unless there is mutual trust.

Secondsop Wed 17-Oct-12 18:55:45

honey hope all is ok.

coffee that's absolutely awful about the receptionist - I would definitely complain. How dare she (a) reveal that you are one of the mental health patients and (b) direct the other patient to sit with you. I must say I react badly generally to having to talk to other people in such situations which is one reason I'm so grateful for this group - I hate the chatting to other women at the antenatal clinic and my heart sank when the diabetic nurse told me that everyone there chatted in the waiting room about their blood sugar levels, food, etc. And that's just me being a bit unsociable and disliking talking about personal matters in public - it's nothing like as serious as your situation.

MaMaPo Wed 17-Oct-12 18:58:00

Gosh, honey, best of luck.

Pertussis jab site not too achy today despite sleeping on it all night - and also had the return of crazy pregnancy dreams! I'm sure my good friend who is an excellent, highly qualified lawyer hasn't decided to retrain as a doctor.

Barbeasty, thanks for the tip about NICE guidelines - can't believe I forgot to look out for them. If anyone's interested, they're easy to read and you might find them helpful. www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/pdf/IPCNICEGuidance.pdf

As I googled 'NICE childbirth' (asking for trouble, really) I found this link: www.makeupandbeautyblog.com/beauty-tips/how-to-look-great-during-childbirth/ So - anyone else concerned about their postpartum photo and going to plan their makeup so they can look their best?

Just now I had my first proper painful kick, that made me say 'OW' and quickly rub the spot hard to move the offending limb out of the way. The baby seems intent on fidgeting itself into all the uncomfortable positions today...

Oh I'm on the weird pregnancy dreams too. Mainly dp leaving/hating/cheating and also lots about my ex blush which I hate (the dreams not my ex)

Not that I love him still or anything it was years ago! It's just you know how it is with exes!!

Bellaboo123 Wed 17-Oct-12 19:30:34

honey fingers and legs crosse for you - keep us posted!!!

Nipple cream - should I start using it soon? I'm sure I read it somewhere but may be imagining it (baby brain)!

MaMaPo Wed 17-Oct-12 19:31:02

Spotty, I have dreams about my husband being difficult or unreliable - in one he couldn't tell me how my labour had been (I'd been out of it) as he had been at the pub; in another he cheerfully informed me he'd decided to take up smoking 2 months before becoming a father. And he was so proud of his decision!

HoneyMum21 Wed 17-Oct-12 19:35:53

Got to stay in for steroid injections as swab came back with potential of going into labour soon. They're not sure- prob nothing to worry about but that doesn't really stop me being terrified

How many weeks are you Honey? Hopefully it is nothing like you say but whatever the outcome you're in the best place and they seem to be looking after you I can't do the flowers so have a bear

MaMaPo that's hilarious! The human mind is a strange thing!

HoneyMum21 Wed 17-Oct-12 19:52:38

32+4 spotty

I know some twins born at 32 weeks and they were home in a month. Only one needed oxygen for a few days smile

Bellaboo123 Wed 17-Oct-12 20:05:31

honey thinking of you I'm sure it's just a precaution but you're in the best place

utopian99 Wed 17-Oct-12 20:08:11

Oh honey crossing everything for you... Do you have anyone with you to talk to/keep you distracted as much as possible?

mwahmwah Wed 17-Oct-12 20:22:42

Thinking of u honey x

Mummycox Wed 17-Oct-12 20:28:09

Hope you and baby are ok honey

pidj go get 'em

Got a growth scan tomorrow - with the horrible woman who did my laparoscopy... Dreading it. Update tomorrow night.

Secondsop Wed 17-Oct-12 20:32:21

honey one of my friends had her baby at 32 weeks and the baby was in hospital for a couple of weeks only and was breathing by herself from the start. Everything is in your favour x

Re the dreams mamapo my husband dreamt that I gave birth in the kitchen. But happily he also dreamt that he cleaned up the kitchen afterwards.

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Wed 17-Oct-12 20:33:05

Thinking of you honey fingers crossed it's a false alarm

Nothing much to report here other than a visit to my friend and her 4 day old baby boy. Lots of lovely cuddles and he got hiccups while I was holding him. Which probably wasn't fun for him but ever so cute to watch. He looked cross!

ISpyPlumPie Wed 17-Oct-12 20:35:04

Hi everyone,

Was completely rubbish at keeping up with the last thread, but determined to do better this time! Only 7 weeks till due date now -eek! Starting to feel more organised though. Nursery is pretty well sorted and have got most things from the list. Also managed to get a few bargains (including a sling) at a Nearly New Sale at the weekend, so feel a little more justified in making any last-minute splurges.

Honey - good luck, keeping my fingers crossed for you too.

Pidge - hope you get it sorted, sounds like a nightmare. I have sent British Gas away with a flea in their ear on more than one occassion for turning up at completely inconvenient times without any notice to try and change the meter(after failing to turn up at all on the day DH took off work specifically for the purpose) but at least we didn't have all the faff of drilling outside etc. to deal with too.

Coffee - agree with everyone else that it is an outrageous breach of confidentiality. I'd be mightly pissed off too. Glad you managed to get a plan sorted eventually though.

emilyeggs Wed 17-Oct-12 20:35:51

Keeping everything crossed for you honey, I'm sure all will be fine. Can't remember who asked but my flu/wc jabs itch a bit and are a bit red. The nurse said that might happen also re nipple cream, start using it a few months before birth to prepare, got mine today, might let dh apply it if he's lucky grin

MyDaydream Wed 17-Oct-12 20:59:40

honey everything crossed for you, hope your okay and they manage to keep baby in a little longer.
pidj sounds like you won, congrats!
I keep having dreams about big parties with a lot of old friends who turned their back on me when I split with my ex. They always seem like good parties, but I never know what I'm doing there and know its not right.

honey when I had my bleed at 27 weeks a very dear friend calmed me down about premature labour. One of her twins was on NICU/NNU for a long time due to health problems. She told me that in their terms babies from 28 weeks onwards have a good outlook. So at 32 weeks your baby will be ok. Especially as they've caught it now and you are getting the steroid injections. My fingers are crossed for you.

well today has been a better day than yesterday so that's a good thing at least. Feel like I'm getting more uncomfy by the minute though. I can't wait to just be comfy!

PurplePidjin Wed 17-Oct-12 21:33:31

I know a lad born at 29 weeks, he's now a strapping 17yo with a phenomenal talent for the guitar and a string of As at GCSE/AS Level...

cherrypiew3 Wed 17-Oct-12 21:37:16

Honey hope you are ok.

Coffee agree with everyone else I would not be happy, hope you are feeling a bit more relaxed now.

Had flu and wc jabs today, flu arm is fine but wc arm is hurting a bit.

Hope you're ok Honey and they get those steroids in you quick sharp. Dh was born at 32 weeks and he's massive now!!

I am concerned about postpartum photos especially as i've had a recent hair disaster, first of all I looked like cruella de vil and now I look like I've got dark brown/red/black hair with blonde starting from halfway down. Its not a good look for me but I'm having it sorted hopefully very very soon. I just used a brush and a bit of bronzer last time before the pics (after the immediately after birth crazy eyed gas and air pictures that I think most people have) but 4 years later I may have to use a bit of tinted moisturiser and some pink blusher!

WeeJo08 Wed 17-Oct-12 21:54:07

Hope you're okay, Honey. As everyone has said, you're in the right place.

Queenofsiburbia Wed 17-Oct-12 23:32:26

Loads of luck honey. We're all thinking of you, and keeping everything crossed.
Keep us up to date brew biscuit

Mummycox Thu 18-Oct-12 00:15:27

Can't sleep. Horrible indigestion and really thirsty. Water making indigestion worse. Very tired.

monsterchild Thu 18-Oct-12 00:30:20

It's a horrible cycle, isn't it, Mummycox? Sometimes I wake up and I don't even know why, then can't sleep. It's horrible!

Mummycox Thu 18-Oct-12 00:33:17

It's vile... I can feel him squirming, which is lovely, but know that if he doesn't stop soon I'll be awake for hours more as it takes so long for it to go. Mother natures way of getting you ready I guess.

monsterchild Thu 18-Oct-12 00:55:09

Try sleeping with your head ans shoulders higher than your chest/abdomen. That has helped me some.

And I think they tell you not to drink during the third trimester because the liver can't detox AND take a beating at the same time!

I've had a crappy nights sleep too. Dd was being a pain and my arm, for some weird reason, is really painful and achy sad

Walnut8 Thu 18-Oct-12 06:31:16

Feeling fluey and awful, just lay down for a nap while DD is sleeping and my phone started ringing. urgh. Also burst into tears at my DD's gym class this morning as she was being such a brat and I couldn't deal with it. So embarrassing. Does anyone else have a 2 yr old? I hope you are coping better than me.

Honey, I hope you are okay. At my hospital they will only take babies born from 32 weeks onwards as they don't have the facilities for younger, so I'm guessing that they are a bit more robust by that stage. Thinking of you though. What made you go to the hospital? Sorry if you have already said and I've missed it along the way.

Walnut8 Thu 18-Oct-12 06:32:17

Spotty, sorry to hear about your bad sleep and sore arm and to everyone else with problems sleeping sad

I have a two year old Walnut (btw where are you?) she goes from lovely to horrible in 0 seconds. Yesterday we got caught in a torrential downpour, I had a really heavy bag and she divided she didn't want to walk so just sat on the floor, we didn't even have costs on! I've just found a local soft play which I'm going to take her to next week, stop me feeling so guilty wink there really isn't anything to do with her round here!

EggsMichelle Thu 18-Oct-12 07:32:20

Bella I went too boots to buy nipple cream for my hospital bag, send discovered there were so many different types I came away with a before and after birth cream, thought i might as well prep them now.

My mum and aunt were born at 32wks (twins) and apart from my mum being a short arse 5ft there is definitely nothing wrong with them!!! And that was in the 50s.

I thought I was looking forward to the toddler stage, but all this tantrum talk is making me panic. Has anyone read this? It's very amusing.

HoneyMum21 Thu 18-Oct-12 07:36:09

Morning all. Thanks so much for all your well wishes and thoughts. Just wanted to update you- cant quite remember what I said yesterday so sorry if I repeat myself. Came over to the hospital because of reduced movement which all turned out fine but they were worried at the regularity of braxton hicks and how hard my belly was so did a swab test which came back positive of the potential of going into labour so gave a steroid injection straight away just in case and have kept me in till at least tonight when I get dose number 2. They've also givens some big red pills which are supposed to stop any hormones which are trying to get me onto labour. Apart from a crap nights sleep that's all there is to report. Thanks again so much for your support xx

It's ok Eggs for everything ghastly they do they do one hundred funny/cute/impressive things in return apart from dd who kept me up just the night angry wink

So glad things are looking ok Honey hope you have lots of trashy magazines to read.

Speaking of braxton hicks I can't even get dd a drink without my stomach going rock hard, walking into another room/out to the car/up the stairs anything that isn't sitting causes it. It's so uncomfortable and seems a bit much so early on. Mentioned it to mw yesterday, although down played it a bit, and she said I just have to take it easy but I already am! Anyone else got them like this?

honey at least They're on top of it. Huge love being sent to you and your bump.

Well last nights sleep was almost non existent and today is the kids harvest festival and my XH will be there angry really don't wanna see him! But thankfully I will be there early from dropping the kids off so will make sure I get a seat. After his behaviour recently I'll be fucked if I'm having him sit next to me!!!

utopian99 Thu 18-Oct-12 08:43:23

honey sounds like you're in a good place, being kept an eye on, at least..

Had a dream last night that it looked like i was going early, and dh decided we should walk through really crowded streets to the hospital! (only 10 mins drive in real life, but would still rather not walk...)

2blessed Thu 18-Oct-12 08:54:18

honey that must be reasuusing that you're being monitored. YOu're in the right place, just try adn relax now.

Went to bed before 9 last night and up at 3.30. Got a really busy day at work today and I can already feel my eyelids drooping!

spotty my belly feels hard/tight nearly all of the time but with no pain. Am I Hicks-ing?

spotty I got that when I was around 27 weeks - 30 weeks, I have no idea why but not getting it at all now and I am resting a lot more.

Totally fallen out with dh, not really over much just the fact that he hasn't once instigated a conversation about the baby/labour/how many weeks I am. Whenever he gets dd ready for nursery he puts her in something ridiculous and I have to re-dress her. He weed on the floor a little bit when going to the toilet in the middle of the night twice this week. He didn't actually do anything about it either. He has been cooking for me and dd and putting her to bed every night (although doesn't give her a bath unless I tell him to). He also seems moody a lot and is constantly on his phone for work, he's working loads from home at the moment and I feel like I've got no space in my own house. I'm at a really low point now and questioning what I'm doing here at all.

JoJoB77 Thu 18-Oct-12 09:28:20

Hope everything is ok honey and baby stays put for a little while longer smile

Sorry to hear you are feeling down strawberry sad. I hope things improve as you dont need to be feeling this way.

I cant remember who asked but i have an 18 month old. Shes on the go all the time & has never been the best sleeper, always early rises but as spotty says they do some hugely funny things that makes me immediately forget about all the slightly horrid sides smile

spotty my tummy seems to be hard more often than not but without pain. It feels so tight sometimes its like my skin will burst.

Ah well less than 9 weeks to go till due date.

Walnut8 Thu 18-Oct-12 09:55:13

spotty, I'm in australia hence the time difference! Good to know that I'm not the only one with a tantrum'ing 2 yr old. I can usually deal with it (it's not that bad, honest Eggs) except that it has been such a rough week, with illness and lack of sleep. And yes, constant BH from late afternoon onwards. Much more than I remember from last time.

Strawberry, some of that sounds a lot like my DH, especially the clueless workaholic bit. At least he's cooking for you grin. To be fair, I think they go through their own hormonal thing, when we are pregnant. How was he with the last pregnancy?

Went to a "refresher" antenatal class at the hospital last night, for those who have had one already. Spent the whole first hour thinking, there is NO WAY I can do that again. Ha. Interestingly, I did an NCT course the first time though, and I have to say this one was way a bit more practical. They were honest about the fact that walking epidurals are a safety issue and generally not allowed (the NCT teacher said that I could have an epidural and still be mobile for labour and then I was very disappointed when forced to lie on my back). No birthing pools or candles avail in the hospital for the same reason.

Walnut8 Thu 18-Oct-12 09:58:29

oh and honey, so glad everything is okay!!!

Barbeasty Thu 18-Oct-12 10:46:59

Walnut I've got a 2 year old. We went out for lunch on Monday and she threw the mother of all tantrums. It lasted about 40 minutes and then a switch flicked and she was charming and perfect. We popped to the same place last night with DH and the barmaid was the same one, who said to DD "ah, are you in a better mood today". I was very blush although they couldn't have been nicer.

Honey - glad you're ok. A friend had the same thing a few weeks ago and everything was stopped and seems to be going to term now (fingers crossed!)

Well I managed not to kill my XH. Aren't I a good girl?!

Vege pizza for lunch, yum!

MyDaydream Thu 18-Oct-12 11:40:41

honey sounds like your being taken care of. A friend of mine showed signs of early labour and she went full term with her baby with help from the hospital. Good luck, hope your managing to get some sleep.
stacey well done on not killing XH. Enjoy your pizza, I'm debating pizza or eggs for lunch and just can't decide.
I'm really looking forward to the toddler stage, I'm terrified of baby but toddlers seem a bit harder to break.
Is anyone else short of breath? I can't go up and down my stairs without needing to really catch my breath at the other end, I feel so unfit. Last night DP had to stay up with me because I was breathless it just felt like everything was pushing down on my lungs and it was so uncomfortable, he was a bit worried but didn't know what to do.

mydaydream you will soon learn babies are pretty hard to break and bounce well grin

I've been much more breathless in the last few weeks, baby is definately encroaching on my lung capacity!

Hi everyone, hope we're all well. I've not long been up blush like so may of you, am not sleeping great so am taking sleep wherever/whenever I can find it!

Thanks for your replies yesterday, am feeling much calmer and more rational today. But the silly staff at the ANC really do need a refresher in professionalism...

MyDaydream Thu 18-Oct-12 12:19:57

coffee don't feel bad about not being up long. I'm lounging in bed still because its more comfortable than the sofa! DP is a noisy fidget arse sleeper so I get my best sleep once he's left for work already!
stacey my step dad gave me the babies bounce advice! I think there'll be a few days where we treat him like an antique vase before we relax a little.

FriendofDorothy Thu 18-Oct-12 12:35:16

I am so envious of everyone who is able to stay in bed at the moment! sad

My boss is such a wanker only one more day of him and he's on holiday until I leave. He speaks to people (me) like crap and I'm so fed up of it. Twat. angry

PurplePidjin Thu 18-Oct-12 13:00:07

FoD, getting up in the morning beats trying to manage on one 16k income, believe me!

FriendofDorothy Thu 18-Oct-12 13:02:00

I am not saying that it is better one way or the other or ideal PurplePidgin. I am just knackered and still struggling to work full time and I would like to sleep at the moment!

PurplePidjin Thu 18-Oct-12 13:14:34

I was made redundant shortly before i got my (unexpected) bfp. Between December 2011 and July 2012, dp and i were made redundant/had contracts terminated 5 times. I would love to have a job to get up for, not working makes me itch and every essential item of baby stuff has to be weighed up and sourced cheaply second hand. The grass isn't any greener over here, I have the same lack of sleep you do just for different reasons wink

FriendofDorothy Thu 18-Oct-12 13:17:01

Fair enough. I am just bitter and twisted today so ignore me!

kate2boysandabump Thu 18-Oct-12 13:23:54

Honey Glad things are looking up for you ad your baby. I had a similar experience with ds2. The steroid injections hurt like hell, but worth it. I went to nearly full term with him, but if it does happen, I know 2 very sturdy and healthy 27 weekers.

Spotty Do you feel better for the rant? grin Only one more day to go.

Stacey Congrats on not killing xh!

I feel very tired at the moment, I'm not sleeping too badly, but everything feels like an effort. I'm waiting for the nesting to kick in so I can get some stuff done, but it feels like it's never going to happen. I've forced myself to the shops today to get more things off the baby list at the Boots baby event. So now I have a breast pump, lanisoh and bepanthen all at a third off, with extra points too. Now I just need to find the energy to put them away blush

The boys are away at grandparents next week, hopefully my nesting will coincide with the peace and quiet.

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Thu 18-Oct-12 13:26:04

Daydream I've found that when the pressure on my lungs gets really bad and I'm struggling to breathe, I can move the baby off them by shifting onto my hands amd knees for a bit. This tends to move him around and I can breathe much better afteerwards. I woke up in a panic a couple of times the other night as I just couldn't get my breath and this was the only thing that helped.

Glad to hear you're being looked after honey

Getting very uncomfortable sat at a desk all day now. 26 more days to work! Wahoo!

mwahmwah Thu 18-Oct-12 13:26:20

I'm just back from hospital with ds, who's two, and was finally getting his bloods done to check for chromosome abnormalities and underactive thyroid. Bursting with pride as he was an absolute superstar, didn't even wince when the needle went in and happily sat and watched the blood drain from his ickle little body. the doc do her stuff. The worries just don't stop with kids, u think once they're born all your fears cease, but actually I think its worse when you have a proper real-live child that you would do anything to protect. They're just so precious.

JoJoB77 Thu 18-Oct-12 13:33:00

Just watched a news clip on the conjoined twins successfully separated, Ruby and Rosie, 11 weeks old now, made me cry!

Lovely news to hear, makes a change from all the bad stuff going on.

PurplePidjin Thu 18-Oct-12 13:36:23

Me too, FoD, backache and gas twats and starting the day at 5.30 for absolutely no reason! It's not up to me to express an opinion but it's very hard, knowing how much dp hates his shitty job, to hear or read conversations about this new pram or that new cot, each of which costs the equivalent of a month's wages for us. (not just here) I'm using cloth nappies out of necessity, for example <retreats back to safe space behind sobbing sofa>

2blessed Thu 18-Oct-12 14:15:47

daydream I’m regularly short of breath. Talking on the phone, walking up stairs, walking anywhere…
Will try the on all fours trick

No kate I don't! He lied rally talks to people like they're at school when in fact I have done all I'm supposed to and he's just assuming I haven't. He's got someone to cover my ML but I didn't know until they turned up this morning asking what to do?! Then he moaned about what I was telling them! Er it's my job I know what I do!! Three hours and ill be on my way home....

mwah that's so lovely I have been wondering about your ds what a brave boy smile

Oh yes I'm out of breath too especially if I lay down I can't breathe even in the bath confused

Oh mwah it's awful to see them at hospital even for tests and stuff but kids are amazingly resilient! Dd never kicked up a fuss about blood tests etc and she's normally the biggest cry baby going! Big hugs to your special little boy!

Well I've typed and got DH to print my birth plan. And will be going over the hospital bag again in the next few days. Need to get around to putting drinks in the freezer etc (although I can almost guarantee that I will forget to take them with me!).

FriendofDorothy Thu 18-Oct-12 15:20:04

I haven't had too much problems breathing, the only time I notice it is when I am singing with choir. There is definitely less luncg capacity there!

MyDaydream Thu 18-Oct-12 16:07:54

Thanks for the all fours tip, I'll give it a go next time I'm suffering. It really amuses DP when I've eaten too much and I alternate between rocking on all fours and standing up circling my hips in a figure of 8 to get things moving and make some room.

kate2boysandabump Thu 18-Oct-12 16:12:56

spotty sorry the rant didn't make you feel better, he sounds like a right star. Am I right in thinking you aren't going back after the baby?

pidj all babies really need are somewhere to sleep, something to eat, a clean nun and a way to get about. Everything else is a choice and one of those things can be free. The only thing our baby has had new, we didn't pay for!

mwah what a brave boy! Hope all turns out well.

Do you think the all fours trick is ok anywhere? School run, sainsbury's, shopping centre...? The possibilities are endless!

MyDaydream Thu 18-Oct-12 16:17:43

kate I've not been on all 4s in the supermarket but have bent over the trolley/shelves while DP rubs my back because I was in so much pain!

kate2boysandabump Thu 18-Oct-12 16:27:57

Oh dear daydream poor you! A friend kindly pointed out I was panting yesterday, I think I'm beginning to sound like my dogs...

kate grinlove that a 'clean nun' is one of your baby essentials, that's made my day.

Oh yes all babies need a clean nun wink

Nope I'm not going back mwahaha that'll learn him wink

When I'm walking I ten to kind or carry/lift my bump with my arms because it's so heavy I must look like a right weirdo!

Mummycox Thu 18-Oct-12 16:41:25

What a day you've all had. Sending hugs, biscuit and tea.

I've come back from growth scan - the upshot: I'm a tubby short arse and he's a normal sized baby smile

Going to try and sleep now.

EggsMichelle Thu 18-Oct-12 17:33:44

My bump hurts when I walk, feels like its going to tear off! And I have a foot under my rib, little git!

Knitting continues, I am on a blanket now, I knew building my wool stash and not giving in to my DHs demands to declutter would come in handy eventually!

kate2boysandabump Thu 18-Oct-12 17:33:59

Oops blush

Meant bum, sorry.

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Thu 18-Oct-12 18:37:29

Kate my boss came into the office the other day to find me lying on the floor with my laptop as the rib pain is so bad I can't bear sitting up anymore! I have no shame! I have also don't daydream's doubled over the trolley thing, that was morning sickness though, when I stood up I threw up!

feeling slightly better about life now. DH realises he has been a total dick which is good. He was good last pg but it's different when there are no dc's as all he had to worry about was me and I had nothing to worry about other than how big my waddle was getting! It is possible I'm slightly hormonal.

Where is Honey? How are you getting on?

Exercise ball is helping me when I'm without breath but I have to get up in bed and go onto all fours sometimes too, dh woke up and though it was his lucky day...dream on baby!

pidj With dd we honestly had absolutely nothing and we lived in a very small flat and made do with seconds and anything we could scrape together (dh had his contract cancelled when I was pregnant then too), we were so happy...money and the ability to buy stuff means nothing really it's just an easy conversation to have with people. You can at least make things, I can make bugger all!

itsMYNutella Thu 18-Oct-12 19:29:52

I'm going to have to send the nun I got back, I demand a clean one! <stands ground and sends DP off into the night>

EggsMichelle Thu 18-Oct-12 19:46:31

A dirty nun sounds like an Ann summers costume, or from a prepay tv channel!

Is there something wrong with my phone or has no one posted since half seven last night?! Everyone ok?!

Saphiesgirl Fri 19-Oct-12 06:45:38

Was wondering the same thing!

Had wc and flu jabs yesterday, sore arms! Doesn't seem as bad as the swine flu jab so far ( I get pregnant at the wrong times!). Anyone suggest how long pain lasted for them please? Am really struggling with spd- need to go back for crutches and generally feeling sorry for myself today!

Hope everyone doing ok

MaMaPo Fri 19-Oct-12 06:47:10

Too busy baking then sleeping. I fancied a biscuit (or 2) with a cup of tea last night, and baking st 9.30pm seemed a better idea than getting dressed again and walking 40 seconds to the off license.

Thank Christ it's Friday. Unbelievably stressful at work at the moment.

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Fri 19-Oct-12 07:13:02

Thursday night is my work night, Spotty smile

HoneyMum21 Fri 19-Oct-12 07:20:20

Morning all. Just checking in quickly. Still in hospital. Possibly started having contractions yesterday but they seem to have settled down (hopefully). Steroid injections all done so hoping to get home today if all stays well. Thanks again for all your support

Lots of live and support coming your way honey

God I dont wanna do the school run this morning! yawn

EggsMichelle Fri 19-Oct-12 07:39:38

And I thought I had killed the conversation!!!

Honey lots of positivity and if we could a lot of real baked goods would come your way!

I had a sob last night, realisation kicked in how close I am to having a little responsibility to care for and went into full blown panic mode. And I had my first labour dream, I appeared to be on a plane!

cashmere Fri 19-Oct-12 07:42:35

Just checking in- don't think I've been on here since about 16 weeks!
Baby due 2nd Dec so only 6 and a bit weeks to go.
Can't wait to stop work in 2 weeks so can focus on baby stuff. This baby can't come early as have too much to do!
I've booked for a homebirth- anyone else?

Clarella Fri 19-Oct-12 07:44:46

Morning honeymum - thinking of you loads and fingers crossed you get to go home later smile

A little positive story - member of our nct class went into labour at work on Monday and had her baby that evening at 32 weeks, baby boy is in a cot having her expressed milk, all well and 4lb 6 - they were supposed to be our last couple! So definitely possible to be completely fine (but maybe no more work!)

knottyhair Fri 19-Oct-12 08:10:52

Thinking of you honey. Lovely story Clarella smile. One of my friends had her son at 31 weeks (she had a car crash and he was in distress so they got him out via EMCS), and he's now a very lively gymnastic loving nearly 6 year old.

Thinking of you honey smile hope you're feeling more confident and relaxed

A few people have said I've suddenly got big, certainly feels it!

Happy Friday everyone third to last Friday at work grin

emilyeggs Fri 19-Oct-12 08:44:04

Just woke up! Had mammoth ,slightly broken sleep.... Feel like I've just come out of a coma now (fuzzy head). I always sleep better in the mornings, night time is my enemy. Glad your doing ok honey and sending hugs. Hope all else are well.

Re Flu/wc jabs, I had mine Monday and they seem to be ok now, only a bit itchy now and then. The nurse said the wc jab is the same one they give babies sad I don't want my little one being hurt but know its for the best

emilyeggs Fri 19-Oct-12 08:44:28

Ps 30wks today grin

Clarella Fri 19-Oct-12 08:46:45

I've been spurred into action following several pieces of early baby news this week, regarding 'getting sorted' - upstairs is now the building work zone, bathroom knocked through and waiting to be plastered, as well as nursery, aiming all to be done in 2 weeks (fingers crossed we can also try and afford a few carpeted rooms) when ill be 37 wks - possibly before - but the thought of bringing baby home to this....! So contingency plans for living downstairs with baby if nec being employed. Haven't even bought nappies yet hmm

DH on stag do this weekend so going to blitz it all and put everything into organised boxes. He said he didn't want to go, I don't want him to either but he does need some lads time. Me: 'what if I go into labour?!' - him: 'dont do it just to spite me....!'

Saphiesgirl Fri 19-Oct-12 08:48:28

Glad you're ok honey, take care

ellliebelle Fri 19-Oct-12 08:55:21

Honey fingera crossed for baby staying put a few more weeks at least. I keep joking about wanting my baby now but in pretty sure if things started happening id be rather scared.

Cashmere im bookedbin for a homebirth smile i havr a homebirth grouo to go to this aft which im hoping will answer any questions i have.

Im supposed to be working today but had a text saying my mindees are unwell (is it wrong that in slightly pleased confused)

ellliebelle Fri 19-Oct-12 08:56:59

Clarella my dh has his works christmas do on december 15th (due on 24th) he is convinced im going to go into labour on 14th/15th just to spite him smile

Pleased they got the steroids in honey and hope those contractions stay away for a bit longer!!

Thinking of you honeymum everything crossed and hoping you get to come home soon.

Mums at the school said I had grown loads in a week spotty I really am stretching out too! Babbas must be growing! Anyone else really itchy ALLLL over?!

Last day at work today!! I don't feel ready to leave?! As much as I've been willing for this day to come it seems like it's such a long time till baby is here, but the next few weeks are annual leave booked in for DDs half term so not like ill be putting my feet up!!

kate2boysandabump Fri 19-Oct-12 09:44:12

Honey Glad everything is looking good for you and your baby, you're in the right place.

Cookies Enjoy your last day at work smile

Spotty Is today your last day with your nightmare boss? Are you tempted to give it to him straight?

emily I was reassured when I had my flu jab, I had it from the nurse that does the baby imms. She didn't hurt me, so she mustn't have hurt my babies either smile

My bump slipped off its support pillow in the night and it was so sore this morning, all that weight hanging down sad

I have checked my message today, never posting from my phone again grin

Yep he's in holiday after today grin although he's being nice today hmm

cookies I'm not itchy yet but know it'll come. Slather some body butter on it!

cherrypiew3 Fri 19-Oct-12 10:06:44

Honey Glad everything is looking better hope you can get home today.

cookies have a good last day.

Quick question had wc and flu jab on wednesday, arms have been a bit sore. All day yesterday flu jab arm was fine I have been awake on and off all night with my arm hurting. Got up this morning and my arm is very red swollen and hot. I have had flu jab every year and never had this reaction is this a normal thing to happen?

WeeJo08 Fri 19-Oct-12 10:11:01

Happy Friday everyone! 4 weeks today until I finish - it can't come soon enough!! Even though I think I am relatively mobile, everything just seems such a massive effort!! Didn't post yesterday but meant to tell you guys, we ordered our Moses basket smile My MiL had given us some vouchers for John Lewis and DH found a fantastic deal on a Moses basket from there - £70 reduced down to £30 grin Here's the link: www.johnlewis.com/231088567/Product.aspx

We are following advice on here and getting it delivered to a nearby Waitrose for free, so thank you for the tip! As you can see, it is most DEFINITELY not neutral, so we are putting great faith in our sonographer!!! We also got a little gro-bag too, we hope to use it straight away but obviously depends on what size baby is! www.johnlewis.com/354035/Product.aspx

Honey Gad you are doing well and you have got the steroids. Friends of ours had their baby boy early (just shy of 34 weeks I think) - he was 4lbs 5oz when born and they were both let home last night! smile They were in hospital for just 11 days, which I think is great and very reassuring.

Just wanted to ask you guys about two things (two very silly things) - I don't know if you have seen on the Pregnancy thread the question about first babies being late and also the correlation between when the baby comes and when your Mum's first baby came? I was wondering if those of you who already have kids were late/early/on time with your first and whether this matched your Mum? Also, and this is VERY VERY silly, have you heard the theory about more babies being born on the full moon? blush Please don't throw me off the thread sad

Urgh having to tidy my house as landlord is coming over this afternoon to try and fix the light in my bathroom, which isn't a bad thing as if it gets fixed I can stop bathing in the dark lol. But the tidying is making me feel sick, I can't bend down without pain/thinking I'm going to puke! Oh the joys!

Hehe weejo my mum had me 2weeks early and my babies were both born 9days early. I'm hoping this one follows suit. But I'm not sure it's an accurate portrayal tbh. As for full moons, no idea tbh. My dcs managed to not be quite as satanic as they could. Dd was due on Halloween and came 22nd oct and ds was due on fri the 13th but came on the 4th! Lol

MyDaydream Fri 19-Oct-12 11:15:30

honey hope you manage to get home soon.
stacey don't over do it, I got a productive mood on yesterday and attacked our spare room and I'm so uncomfortable today. I don't want to do anything but have to go into town.
I've started looking at nurseries for DS for when I go back to work, he's not here yet and us talking about morning sickness and not being able to wait for the first scan seems like last month now I'm having to think about him being 8 months old! I get the feeling the one I've fallen in love with will be prohibitively expensive and ill go into a big sulk.

Morning everyone,

What are we all up to? I'm finishing making my BIL's wedding invitations whilst watching BBCs Pride & Prejudice ... love it!

I washed all my LOs new clothes this morning and they are hanging up to dry ... made me realise, there's actually going to a baby in the house soon!

Cashmere, my due date is also 2nd December! But I'm not having a homebirth, midwife unit for me.

I'm writing my birthplan too - am going to stick it on the Pregnancy forum if anyone fancies giving me some opionions? TIA

mwahmwah Fri 19-Oct-12 11:39:30

I am sick to death of racing heartbeat. Pulse is ridiculously high, midwife unconcerned cause it's the sane with each pregnancy and i've had the heart checks before. It's just horrible tho, makes me feel sick and faint. Not nice sad roll on 10 weeks time when all will be back to normal (ish)!

We're going out for lunch as its the last time my boss will see me. Yum! Still don't like him wink

I get the heart racing too it's awful.

I'm going to go through my birth plan with consultant and specialist mw at 34 weeks mine will be a bit different to others though.... My advice would be to make sure your birth partner knows exactly what you want (obv it'll all be written down too) because you really will forget that you wanted to be mobile and wanted a ball etc etc

WeeJo08 Fri 19-Oct-12 12:05:05

Coffee Just had a read of your birth plan and it looks very similar to what I'm thinking...I just wasn't sure how to go about starting it!

mwah my racing heart is brought on by dehydration. Have you been drinking enough?

Well I've done some bits and bobs, the house is looking a lot better but I'm so tired. I've done some ironing too but it brought on braxton hicks so I'm now sitting down with some lunch.

MyDaydream Fri 19-Oct-12 12:19:14

coffee very similar to the ideas I've got in my head for my birth plan. I really just want to be left alone to get on with it as much as possible.
I keep mentioning to DP it might be nice if he gets some skin to skin cuddles in those first few hours too but he doesn't see the point because apparently he made the baby so he already has a bond with him. Although getting him to talk about labour and those first few days is like pulling teeth.

Clarella Fri 19-Oct-12 13:43:39

Nct friend who popped on Monday at 32 weeks (in her work clothes!) said main thing that got her through in that slightly unprepared state was the tens, gas n air and a 'very hard lower back massage' if it helps anyone.

I looked at the nhs plan u can fill in to print off looked useful. Where is yours coffee? I think I'm being dozy.

Had quite a,lot of sobbing yesterday following consultant appt on weds, they won't let me go to lovely mw led unit due to my previous slapped cheek/crazy thyroid/work stressed induced anxiety despite no issues re thyroid now as they want to keep an eye on me post birth. I'm so.much happier and less anxious - no more than any other pregnant woman! - made me quite frustrated cos I don't feel it was 'my fault' - ffs, even the thyroxine I was on turned out to be faulty at 13 weeks, which was half the problem as no one knew about it. Hence trying to stabilise it ever since, which causes side effects of .... anxiety. I'm over it now smile

But after recent sudden baby events, I'm just going to do my plan as best as poss, including pool if possible, (there are 2 in doctor led bit but depends 'if they can spare the staff, so agree to a student and you might get one') plans b and c as equally doable and plan d (surprise 'let's freak daddy on stag do in London' baby) to just go with the flow! (i know which mates are free this wkend!)

kate2boysandabump Fri 19-Oct-12 13:47:31

Sorry Cherrypie Me and my mum don't fit your theory my brother was 3 weeks early and my ds1 was 9 days late and I was 14 days late and my ds2 was 1 day early. She only had the 2 of us, so I guess I'm on my own this time.

Enjoy your lunch Spotty I hope your boss paid and you ordered something expensive wink

I saw my medical student again today, he wants to know all about my physio and pelvic pain. He's very keen, but totally clueless. Although he was a bit more with it than last time I saw him. He's a bit of an 'aww bless'.

Clarella Fri 19-Oct-12 13:48:47

Ps, my school got outstanding in surprise ofsted yesterday, but as its changed its very based on pupil progress, they chose 2 of my very autistic darlings from last year and compared progress Sept to Sept (and went and chatted to them bless! To test sp and language judgements) so not feeling so bad n guilty about not being there as all my hard work from Sept till May counted for a lot ( believe me! A year ago the inspector would have been whacked) <proud>

itsMYNutella Fri 19-Oct-12 14:40:14

Clarella You should be proud! It is so lovely to have any reward when teaching and what you do certainly sounds like hard work so you should have a full chart of shiny gold stars; and a badge <pins shiny star badge onto Clarella>

Honey thinking of you and hope you and LO are well and that LO can stay put a bit longer!! FX

I saw my family at the weekend (it was pretty much my last chance to fly) and my eldest Bro - who has two kids- asked about my birthplan... it's very vague with the main theme being "see what happens" but I've just realised I'm going to have to translate it into German confused oh crumbs! I better get on and write it so DP and my midwife can help me!!

Thanks for your comments on my birth plan ladies. I'm going to make a few small ammendments.

Spotty and Daydream - I'm going to go through it tonight with my DH who is very good at making himself heard so I know he'll be a great support and advocate for me. Fortunately, we have very similar views on how we would like the birth to be.

Clarella I put my plan on the pregnancy talk board. I didn't fancy filling out a 'form' from a website, it didn't feel personal enough.

TBH, I think the 'Lets see what happens' appraoch isn't too bad to have, or rather just keeping an open mind. That said, I really, really don't want forceps or ventouse [shudders] but we'll see what the midwives say....

I think the most important thing is knowledge. It's a scary thing and the unknown makes it worse so I think you're taking the best approach smile

Tbh I don't think I'd consent to forceps again and if it looks as though things aren't progressing I would definitely rather a CS if possible.

EggsMichelle Fri 19-Oct-12 16:11:06

I'm planning on taking the "go with the flow" birth plan approach, I have no idea what to expect and what will be best for me and the baby, and since I spend my days expecting patients to do as I tell them to, I suppose I will fit nicely into the role of being told what to do!

Secondsop Fri 19-Oct-12 16:39:39

Gosh, birthplan, I haven't given barely any thought to mine. I start NCT antenatal classes in a couple of weeks - will they give me information about the options?

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PurplePidjInAPointyHat Fri 19-Oct-12 16:41:26

weejo I was born a few days early, and my DD (going to have to start getting used to DD1 soon!) was born at 38+5 . Following my scan last week this DD is on course to be born on the 6th despite EDD the 12th. And based on the weight estimates will be 8lb something!

We shall see! Never heard about full moons though sorry!

Thanks guys feels great to be off, i must admit I do feel a bit guilty about being off already, I feel like pregnant women make it a competition to see who can work the longest sort of thing and I feel like people are thinking I'm lazy or something .. blush

cookies I'm finishing at 32 weeks grin did you go into labour naturally with your dd?

My pushchair is due to be delivered Monday so excited!!

I've already got dd's Christmas presents but have just seen a wooden toy kitchen in the sale at Asda for £35..... She would love it I'm very tempted.....

Clarella Fri 19-Oct-12 18:24:20

I agree about that competition thing and think it very damaging in many ways - Congrats cookies!

Wow pidg, that is quite something, had no idea they did that.

Yes secondsop, I've found it really useful for all that. Second what spotty says, with anything knowledge is power! On that note just got 'stand and deliver' (1p on amazon!) on a recommendation and really liking dipping into random birth stories from everything from cs to premature births, water, etc and everything in between - think going to be quite helpful for both birth plan ideas but also just to read about range of ways it can all turn out as well as lots on 'getting things started' deffo a good recommendation. Forceps bit is bit I'm not sure of myself - I think ill have to put myself in hands of docs in that case as to what is recommended. Trying to decide if this perinneal massage business worth trying?

Nct teacher had us in stitches (lol) last night when discussing sweeps, as a doula she'd tried to do a sweep on herself with baby no 2 but 'short arms and short fingers scuppered all her attempts' - she backed it up with - 'and why not, its mine afterall, better I do it than some doctor!'

Thanks nutella, I've spent 6 months beating myself up for letting down the school in run up to ofsted (ive quite an intricate role in.the place) and those 2 particular children so its nice to hear. I share the badge with my amazing collegue and friend, who took up the baton with that class in June/july after a miserable time with a supply (who had all the courses / qualifications on paper but not the aptitude on the ground often the way ;) ) and continued and built on all the strategies smile . Apparently a particular child has come on so well that he actually swore the other day (barely used to talk) and then trotted out a full sentence apology! v impressed, he wasn't 'commenting' when I had him grin

Ah spotty I'm 32 weeks now, I am feeling pretty mahooosive tbh. If I had an office job I enjoyed I would have stuck it out for longer.

Yeh I did I went into labour 38+4 and denied it to myself all day long as I didn't want to make a fuss over nothing!

I have an office job and could physically manage a good few weeks more I reckon, I just can't be bothered grin I only do two days and on a Friday evening I'm exhausted. Also I want to be able to get al excited over Christmas!

That must have been a shock as everyone assumes first baby's are always late!

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Fri 19-Oct-12 18:43:40

34 today and going to 38 - but my job involves sitting on my arse chatting to teenagers and drinking tea for 4 hours a week. It's hardly demanding would have been off with something by now if still working in care

WeeJo08 Fri 19-Oct-12 18:57:31

I agree with the whole maternity leave competition - I also feel that although I would like to finish a little earlier I would receive negative comments as I work in an office of men (am engineer) and have already had some quite frankly appallingly un-PC comments! I'm finishing at 37 weeks and have one week of annual leave, then maternity leave starts at 38 weeks. Conversely I have had comments from ladies of my Mum's generation who think I am mad for continuing to 37 weeks and think it is far too late! Can't win! (though it feels nicer when someone comments in that way, I admit!)

Clarella Well done on the ofsted comments! My Mum was a teacher, then principal in special education for 38 years and the inspections never got any easier or less stressful in all that time!

Honey How are things today?

monsterchild Fri 19-Oct-12 19:13:46

I wish I got mat leave like you do in the UK. I'm working as late as possible because I think it's better to get my 8-10 weeks in AFTER kid is born rather than before!

Oh monster I really feel for you! It's a pretty crappy system for you over there, maybe you should move to Sweden?!

monsterchild Fri 19-Oct-12 19:19:43

I have considered that! But not sure if my skills would be needed. No one seems to want more lawyers! grin

EggsMichelle Fri 19-Oct-12 19:58:25

I finish on Wednesday, day before 34wks. I saved up my annual leave to go early. Iv been stuck in an office since 5wks and hate it, I get back ache at my desk, I have very little to do and can't wait to get back to the ward.

I'm having an early night, my belly and back hurt, I'm exhausted and have been crying about jack shit all day. I give up!

mwahmwah Fri 19-Oct-12 19:58:49

Where are you monster? You've probably said but i've missed it!
I've got 4 weeks work, then 1 week hols then maybe 2 weeks wind-down work till I finish, which'll make me between 37-38 weeks when I finish. Problem is, my boss is off week after me in November and i'd like to work the final week before I finish up with her. Weird I know but we get on quite well and I feel I owe it to her to do a proper robust handover. She's ridiculously disorganised and i'm quite anal so we kinda fit together and she'll need a good handover before I finish!!!

cashmere Fri 19-Oct-12 20:01:17

Elliebelle nice to know there's another person going for a homebirth- what are your reasons. Are you getting pethidine. I didn't last time and don't really fancy it but wondering if I should have just in case.

cookies nice to share a due date. I've been really well but have struggled this last couple of weeks. Just really tired and breathless.

I think 32 weeks would have been the ideal time to stop work for me. I'm not sure how much mat leave I can afford though so I'm starting mat leave at 38 weeks and using annual leave for 2 weeks before that.

Would hate to work later as think you need the time to physically and psychologically prepare. No way I'd keep going up to due date.

monsterchild Fri 19-Oct-12 20:15:54

I'm in the US, but I work at a small agency so the federal leave rules don't apply to us. Boo!

ISpyPlumPie Fri 19-Oct-12 20:21:17

Cashmere and Elliebelle - I'm booked for a homebirth too. Although I didn't have a bad time in hospital last time, it's more a positve choice about the benefits of being in my own environment, being sure of having a pool etc.

The mw is doing my home visit on 1st Nov to check whether we need to move anything round. She said we'll also discuss pain relief. My plan at the moment is TENS until I get in the water. Am also doing hypnobirthing classes. Think I'd like gas & air to be on stand-by too. Can get a prescription for meptid (sp?) Don't think I will though as I don't like the idea of anything where there's no going back if it doesn't agree with me. They said at the talk I went to that they prefer not to use pethadine for home births, but might be different policies in different areas.

Honey - sounds like they've taken good care of you. Hope LO stays put for now.

Clarella - congrats on the Ofsted report. Sounds like you've done a fantastic job.

Weejo - I was 5 days late and DB was 3 days late so some family history of going overdue, however DS took it to a whole new level by being 13 days late. Hoping this DC decides to buck the trend. Have also heard the full moon thing, but don't know if there's any evidence.

Clarella Fri 19-Oct-12 21:50:11

Omg felt quite a,tingling in my nipples and I'm really leaking colostrum - that's ok right?!

That is rubbish monster, you poor thing sad

Thanks for the ofsted comments, but I need to add, not been at work since 9 weeks, apart from one week at 21 ..... did work from home for a bit but only the paper work bits! Just proud of those boys smile

Just coming back to this book, its great for both extra thoughtful labour and hospital bag tips plus has example birth plans etc. I'm also liking reading the birth stories, kind of nice to hear the range of things/ options etc from individual perspectives.

Secondsop Fri 19-Oct-12 23:06:03

I'm 32 weeks and am planning to stop at 36, taking a week or so of annual leave before mat leave kicks in. I am feeling pretty tired but am glad to be managing at the moment especially given a pregnancy that's been full of various stages of being unwell. It's good for me to try to keep a bit active because of the gestational diabetes.

I am getting almost comically large though, especially as I'm very front-carrying. It's at the stage of strangers commenting.

clarella I've had some quite strong nipple twinges and been leaking a bit for yonks but doesn't sound as heavy as yours. Eeek!

second I had a 'don't worry I'm a trained midwife' from 2 different people in 1 week, I was 25 weeks at the time!!! I describe my current state as having swallowed a baby hippo! grin

Most uncomfy today. Baby has moved higher and I can't shift it. Eating dinner was uncomfy! Right time to get some sleep!

Clarella Fri 19-Oct-12 23:37:42

I shouldn't worry about that right?! It's neon yellow - the things you learn as a first timer!

Had very loose bowels today and bump rock hard, 35 on Monday...... hmm grin lol I'm sure its all tickety boo!

Bit worried about honeymum hoping all ok Xox

Bellaboo123 Sat 20-Oct-12 04:28:08

Wide awake can't sleep grrrr!

Mentioned to DP that we need to look at our birth plan and he was like whets that? I obviously explained and he said well the plan is just to have the baby isn't it - MEN!!! He's be the first to complain if he didn't like something that was done!

I'm working up to 38 and 3 then I've got a week annual leave.

I asked my mum tonight if my brother and I were late/early. Apparently both only 2/3 days late so here's hoping.

Bellaboo123 Sat 20-Oct-12 04:34:01

Oooh and my pregnancy app (guru.- not!) recommended starting raspberry leaf tea now to condition the uterus for labour - I'm 32w 4d anyone started / has experience of this?

Bella I'm not the font of all knowledge but I was pretty sure raspberry leaf tea was not recommended before about 36 weeks. So worth checking out before you drink any.

Awake! Gah!

Eugh dd's had us up since half four.

clarella all sounds normal grin

I'm so hungry I'm going to have to get up sad

Saphiesgirl Sat 20-Oct-12 06:51:53

Morning, ds 2.7 just slept till 6.00! Second time ever - woo hoo! I've ordered one that sleeps this time! He's now snuggled in bed beside me dozing, hope he can keep it up. Got 4 weeks of work left (31 wks on mon) and don't know how I'll make it. Need crutches for spd and not sleeping due to back pain etc, grrr.

Honey- how you doing?

Clarella- great news!

Re birth plans. The idea of going with the flow is very wise- drs/ mws do this everyday so be prepared to do as told BUT, if something feels very wrong, be clear! Ds was back to back and mw insisted I lie on back. It was indescribable and has done permanent damage to my pelvis- spd in extreme! I couldn't move or speak and mw and dh rolled me over against wishes. He's been well warned this time!! (no one knew ds back to back because super fast labour meant she'd not examined me in a while as she didn't think I was ready to push yet!)

Bella I drank raspberry tea last time and had a very short pushing stage, not sure if it's related but worth a try? They did say you could drink it from 32 or 34 weeks then but since I think the recommendation has changed.

No one has mentioned for me to do a birth plan, I wonder if its because it's my 2nd. I think it helped last time so might just write it for myself.

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Sat 20-Oct-12 08:05:52

I know you're supposed to count 10 kicks a day, is it normal to have them all in one go? It's like he's banging on the door to be let out hmm

I haven't written a birth plan yet, but have talked to dp about what we do/don't want to happen. Neither of us feels like we know enough to do anything other than see when we get there - although he's keener on the medical stuff while i want to try the pool/breathing/moving/aromatherapy stuff for as long as i can - but I'm fairly confident he'll be fighting my corner when it comes to it. I've also had excellent care from the mw team so can trust them. Says a lot for continuity, which i think most people don't get? <counts blessings>

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sat 20-Oct-12 08:20:29

Morning all!

Eek clarella that makes it all seem a bit real! But you are almost 4 weeks ahead of me, so I have a little time yet!

My birth plan plan has gone out if the window as I'll now be induced. My current birth plan is "I'll have what pain relief I need, as and when I need it." I have also told DP no epidural unless I'm climbing the bloody walls!
He's mean so I know he won't give in no matter how much I beg

Off to the Trafford centre today to look at the lovely clothes I can't wear envy 31 weeks today!

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sat 20-Oct-12 08:22:11

Ps pidj I've presumed thats fine. at some points baby fandango wriggles nonstop for 3-4 hours. Think I've got myself a non sleeper!

JoJoB77 Sat 20-Oct-12 08:22:31

Morning all

I'm currently waking at 3am on the dot every night, usually needing a wee, sometimes not. Its so annoying as it takes ages to drop off again. Luckily DD slept until 6am so i managed a bit more kip.

Re birth plan, i havent done one but thinking about last time i may make a few notes of what i don't want. My DD was back to back too and the midwives wanted me on my back too, it was agony when i think back so if this one were to be in the same position i'd insist i was on all fours or something, anything but on my back. Im up for any type of painkillers grin although i managed with tens and gas & air last time so will just take it as it comes.

32 weeks on monday.

Hope honey is ok...

werewolves hope you don't mind but my advice would be to discuss what methods of induction they ate going to use and in what order etc then you can do a bit if research so you know what to expect. A lot of hospitals, for example, will recommend an epidural before putting in the devil hormone drip and I think some use that quite quickly whereas others might use it as a last resort. Also maybe ask if they will do continual monitoring or if you can have intermittent. I found that monitor really uncomfortable! Some hospitals have mobile ones do you're not 'tied down'.

pidj sounds like a good plan to me!

Is anyone using a tens? What's the cheapest way to do it?

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sat 20-Oct-12 08:34:25

Ooh I didn't know there were options spotty everyone I know who's been induced has been really pessimistic and says you'll be continually monitored, have to stay in bed, have to labour on your back, etc. I have a huge thing about epidurals and if I can possibly get away with it I really don't want one.

I'll discuss it with the obstetrician at 34 week diabetes clinic then. The last 2 times I've been they've rushed me out as fast as they an but I'll have to speak up and stay put until they answer me!

Clarella Sat 20-Oct-12 08:34:38

Someone said u can hire tens much cheaper from a Lloyd pharmacy than boots or mothercare but I couldn't find one. In.the end I've got a pack from boots, think mother c cheaper but I happened to get one of those 'extra points' vouchers on top of baby club points so sort of worked out tiny bit cheaper.

Another thing u can ask for is s very new thing where they inject small blisters/bubbles of water beneath the skin in lower back, supposed to work same way as tens but u can go in pool with them - anesthetist at nct class told us about it, and one woman said her friend found it helpful. Can't remember what called and only been at our huge hospital since last year.

Oh Clarella someone on one of the earlier threads mentioned that, whoever lives in Sweden? We have a Lloyd and boots so I might look into it smile

If I don't get ill this time they're going to start sweeps from 37 weeks, then it'll be pessaries then hopefully ARM as last resort as I don't want the synto drip. I wasn't allowed off the bed last time but after speaking with mw she said its because I was so ill so I suppose they were doing what was best....

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Sat 20-Oct-12 08:47:51

Tesco TENS hire is £27.50 and available from my local one (not very big but has pharmacy)

Thanks pidj

this is quite funny don't know if it's going round here anyway

JoJoB77 Sat 20-Oct-12 08:50:11

I got my tens from ebay, 2nd hand but only used once. Its a lloyds pregnancy one.

I had ARM, then hormone drip, eventually ending up with a ventouse delivery. Im really hoping it will be different this time...

Queenofsiburbia Sat 20-Oct-12 08:56:47

Good morning everyone

Good to know about the Lloyds tens machines. How long in advance does one hire them from? (I'm assuming you don't collect them on the day!)

Pidj, last night the pumpkin (apparently they are small pumpkin sized now, ironically!) was also banging on actual exit area. Preeettty uncomfortable!

I heard about this blistering thing, I think on another thread, but it sounds super sadistic to me. The logic seemed to be along lines of if 'I slap you on the face you won't notice your agonising broken leg as much'!!! Seems like labour will be bad enough already TBH confused

I'm interested why a few people very anti epidural? Of the friends I know who've had them, said they were a huge help so I wondered about other experiences. I'm quite keen I think!

Queen I think it's because it can increase the chance of instrumental delivery/CS because you don't push effectively, you can't keep mobile, which obviously helps with labour, and you can't get up and about for a little while after. Not that it stopped me begging for one last time! wasn't allowed one though and still ended up with forceps

Oh they send the tens out three weeks before your due date smile

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sat 20-Oct-12 09:15:15

queen all of spotty's reasons plus I have the heebie jeebies about a needle going into my spine blush I also have a lot of lower back problems and although the risk of lasting effects is small I really couldn't cope with anymore back pain.

Is there a different type of tense chine for pregnancy? I have a Lloyd one for back pain but am unsure if there's more than one type.

Queenofsiburbia Sat 20-Oct-12 09:42:26

Thank you spotty & werewolves.
Annoying how everything seems to have a downside. At some point I'm going to steel myself to discover about forceps. From everyone's reaction on here I'm guessing it ain't good news. Gulp.

Good to know about tens machine!

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sat 20-Oct-12 09:54:03

I'm kind of expecting forceps queen as everyone in my family has had them with every baby they've had. I think the best way is to prepare for the worst case scenario and take it as it comes smile that's all we can do anyway

werewolves inductions aren't all bad, mine was brilliant but I only needed the first pessary and 3 hours later I was in established labour..gave birth upright and monitored on and off.

I didn't use tens, has anyone used them before and found it useful? I imagine they're like those slender tone machines which make your muscles twitch?

kate2boysandabump Sat 20-Oct-12 10:23:38

Queen What Spotty said and I'll want to come home asap to my other children, you need to stay in for a bit longer if you have an epidural.

Bella There are different strengths of raspberry leaf tea and I think the weakest is ok from 32 weeks. Check the boxes as there are capsules too. Be warned though, it tastes horrid!!

Typically, DH is away for the weekend and I've had a terrible nights sleep sad At least the boys made their own breakfast. I also realised that I can't stay in bed and not have anything to eat. Has made me feel most peculiar!! Ds1 has brought me some toast and juice in bed, I'm a very lucky mommy. I think it was in part to make up for him knocking over the ironing board hmm

I can't think about my birth plan yet, I think because what I want this. I get to the hospital, the mw says you're 9cm, get changed, start pushing, baby born, all fine. Unrealistic? Me? Although I was 8cm when I got the the hospital last time, so maybe it's not to far fetched.

kate2boysandabump Sat 20-Oct-12 10:25:24

I've used TENS twice and I'm sure it allowed me to stay at home longer then if I hadn't had it. Will be using one again, if I remember to order one, I have real motivational issues blush

utopian99 Sat 20-Oct-12 10:28:15

Have bought an Elle tens machine as reviews were good and i had enough vouchers to buy for £10 from amazon. Now wondering if lloyds are better as you've all mentioned them. I was thinking better to buy as this is our first, plus i have 3 friends due after me so i can work as an informal/free rental service!

Hmm....maybe I will re-think my no tens then, I would happily have your last birth kate smile

For anyone using re-usable nappies they are on sale at zulily today, not sure if these are the right ones as I don't know much about them but I do know you can get an extra 15% off with a mumsnet code!

pmgkt Sat 20-Oct-12 11:14:25

i had tens in the first part of an induced labour last time, and it was great to distract you from the pain. you have just reminded me to book in a rental. there are companies that hire them locally which are cheaper than the main pharmacies. your local nct group will have details i'm sure. i was induced with 2 pesseries then a drip. i was told i would be allowed stand up in the room but due to constant monitoring it would be limited. however the student midwife struggled to find a vein and so i ended up with things in each arms and drips on each side so couldnt move, they had to unplug everything just so i could go to the loo.

Same here pmgkt but they wouldn't let me go to the loo..... I'm sure dp lived holding the bed pan whilst I squatted over it trying to wee between contractions blush

Clarella Sat 20-Oct-12 11:17:48

I wasnt told Lloyds were better, just cheaper, so don't know - apparently v like the slender tone thing but may go higher? DH tried it in boost first go and was really put off it, a good thing considering boys like to put it on their arms and make their hand twitch....

Dunno about others but the boots one I've got has a dvd, its elle I think. Need to post off for it mind!

MaMaPo Sat 20-Oct-12 12:34:55

Queen, I am also surprised at the anti-epidural sense I get in the UK. I just asked a good friend who has had 2 babies, and she said that her learning experience after the first is - do whatever is necessary to keep you going, and given that parenting happens for the next 18 years minimum, don't use up all your energy on the birth. For her, that meant accepting the epidural, which meant that she wasn't completely exhausted by the end of the birth and felt much more about to cope with the next days and weeks. With her first she just kept going with gas and air etc, and could barely function afterwards she was so tired.

My birth plan: get it out, please. Use as few medications/interventions as possible, but I'd rather have a healthy baby and a not-too-exhausted set of parents than a 'perfect' birth.

Queenofsiburbia Sat 20-Oct-12 13:01:02

I'm with you mamapo!
I don't know a single person who has ever gone to their DM and said either, you ruined my life with your birth choices or, Thank god you didn't have a c-section etc, I could never forgive you if you hadn't had a 'natural' birth!

Not expecting my children to be interested or in fact anything other than totally grossed out by the whole subject !

clarella yep if I squeeze or even press on either nipple I get a fair amount of neon yellow colostrum! DP was HORRIFIED!!

bella I'll admit I've started on raspberry leaf tea already, did it from about this stage last time too. I have capsules as the tea sounds vile and I take a lower dose and will increase in later weeks. The ones I have say not to take in first 30 weeks but I think the guy in H&B said 34 or 36 weeks? I chose to ignore! (No judging please) just read the packet. You need it to build up in your system so it is necessary to take it a bit in advance.

I have a fear of forceps it's the only thing I would say I didn't want.. And pethadine is a questionable one for me. Made DD really sleepy for her first few days and then screamed the house down when it wore off. I have no issues with having an epidural i guess if it will help me- there's one of those guilt things attached to it in my opinion- like you're a worse mother if you have one! Utter rubbish bollocks you have to do what's right for you when you're screaming, tired and in a hell of a lot of pain.

Clarella Sat 20-Oct-12 14:17:36

I would absolutely have an epidural if I felt I needed it (as I say plans 'a' through to about 'g' so far!)

Need to remind my self at what point you can ask and at what point its too late... any one know?

Pethadine worries me mainly as I don't think id like it cos codine and benylin make me feel rather yucky

You have to be over 3cm to have one and I think they won't let you if you're more than 8cm? But probably depends on how long you've been going etc? I thoroughly believe if they had let me have an epidural it may have made the whole experience better for me and maybe I would be able to look back and not cry think of it has a happy day rather than the worst day of my life....

I wasn't offered pethedine but had diamorphine. I had my last dose probably an hour before dd was born and her apgar scores were 8&9 so it didn't effect her it did space me out though...

kate2boysandabump Sat 20-Oct-12 14:37:59

I'm not anti-epidural, I just don't want one for myself. My mom had one both times and i'm sure she thinks i'm a bit mad.

spotty really hoping it's better for you this time. My second was loads better. You, your dh and the bedpan is quite an image

blush he couldn't understand why I wouldn't let him help me to the loo after I had had dd grin I had to explain that what happens in labour stays there and never gets revisited or brought up again!

I'm not anti epidural but will try and cope without one if I can. I had dd with just g+a then with ds I wanted something 'more' so I had pethidine but he was out within 10 minutes so it didn't affect him, I was rather sleepy in the bath after though grin

Having some painful braxton hicks today. Every half hour or so. This baby best stay put until at least the 5th nov!!

I hope honey is ok.

MaMaPo Sat 20-Oct-12 15:14:42

Interestingly, I had heard nothing but bad experiences with pethidine, but another friend said she had it and said it was completely wonderful - 'first bit of the labour I enjoyed', she said. Immediate relief, and she met her lovely daughter soon afterwards.

One of my regrets was that I was really out of it and following haemorrhage (spelling?!!) after and surgery/ blood transfusions etc i really did miss the first day or two as well, and this time I want to not be drowsy etc. I know how you feel spotty I am a bit apprehensive and prey things are a bit more straight forward! I have no memories sad

I had a friend who really liked her pethidine but ill deffo be voting no this time! I'm really all for the birthing pool but only a couple of rooms have one in our hospital sad

And spotty I really am chuckling to myself from visions of you hovering grin

<scratch scratch itch itch> ahh feck off!! angry

cashmere Sat 20-Oct-12 16:16:43

I bought this tens last time.
www.birthease.co.uk/birthease_shop/Neurotrac-TENs-Machine-Buy.shtml
It cost £42 so was the cheapest I could find but I really liked it. Just had to buy new pads for it this time.

HoneyMum21 Sat 20-Oct-12 17:29:18

Hello all. Finally home from hospital on strict instruction to go back if the pains get worse. Still wanting to finish my last couple of weeks at work but DH is def against the idea so am gonna see how I am after a decent night's sleep. Thank you for all your messages and thoughts over the past few days.

Random question- has anyone else found their vision going weird in pregnancy - especially when I'm tired one of my eyes is getting kind of gluey and a bit blurry but from a sticky way rather than an neurological one if that makes any sense!

Welcome back honey grin dry eyes are common in pregnancy and you can get drops from the chemist. I'm inclined to agree with your dh on this one!

Bellaboo123 Sat 20-Oct-12 17:53:52

Welcome back honey glad you're feeling better, take it easy and see how you feel.

I'm whacked went out shopping this afternoon and was talking on my phone as walking and DP made me stop as he said I was heavy breathing down the phone!

Thanks for the tips on raspberry leaf - think I'm going to try and get the capsules.

AIBU to expect to be able to contact dp at all times ATM? Being 30 weeks pregnant and all? He is meant to finish work at five, told me he was only working down the road, yet isn't back yet. I phoned a couple of times just after five and he didn't answer angry way too afraid of AIBU I don't think I am though?!

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sat 20-Oct-12 17:58:37

Hi honey glad to hear you're doing better. I'm with your DH too, take it very easy.

As I said, if I need it I'll take the epidural but if I can manage without I'd like to do that. I don't think oneupmanship comes into it as what happens in the delivery suite stays in the delivery suite if DP values his balls

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sat 20-Oct-12 18:01:53

I'm the same spotty, my DP text me the other day to let me know the engine had exploded in his works van, on a 4 lane viaduct on the M6! He then didn't pick up his phone for 2 hours. I was convinced I was raising this baby alone! Hormonal and unreasonable, maybe. Completely allowed as we're pregnant, absolutely!

MyDaydream Sat 20-Oct-12 18:20:52

I'm not against epidural, it's not in my plans since I want to birth at the local MLU rather than further away hospital. If I'm transferred to the hospital I'll take anything they recommend since something will be wrong that needs fixing.
I'm a bit scared of all painkillers at the minute since everything I read about them says its like being a bit drunk and I hate being drunk, really don't want that in labour. But go to hospital late, hopefully waterbirth, hopefully they won't fawn over me too much and just guide me to getting on with it and hopefully it won't last too long!
I'm in so much pain today. My bump is hard and its uncomfortable to stand/walk/lay/sit unless I'm really leaning forward and then my back starts to hurt. My lower bump is rock hard and if I have a braxton then my whole bump hardens. It's uncomfortable (read: really fucking painful) and I don't know if it warrants calling someone because other than monitor me and give me some paracetamol I can't see what could be done. I just want a moan.

That's rubbish MyDaydream you're right though they will tell you to take some paracetamol and try to rest! If they get more frequent/painful then you need to call someone

DP is home now, apparently he couldn't hear his phone as he was on the dumper truck hmm

£22.95 for that Elle Tens machine on eBay for 7 weeks hire with free delivery, I think I read you can't use them before 36 weeks though, although hopefully that won't matter!

Great to hear from you honey glad you're home and everything is ok. I think he might just be right make sure you get lots of rest and make him do lots for you. I'm thinking numerous cups of tea/biscuits in front of a good box set.

spotty all rational thinking goes out the window during pregnancy and the crazy hormones take over. Completely normal. DP still isn't home. Chocolate and Saturday night tv for me!
Sounds good for the tens machine, I've never thought about using one...

Mummycox Sat 20-Oct-12 19:38:51

Welcome home honey

Spotty what is it with Saturdays and DH? wink

Pram arrived today.

MyDaydream Sat 20-Oct-12 19:50:44

I always go by the theory if I'm annoyed at DP I'm not being unreasonable. Most of our disagreements could be avoided with a little forward planning and motivation on his part!
I got my Maternity allowance confirmation back today, very happy it's come through just in time since the company DP uses to sort his wages out cocked up for the second month in a row. So crap at paying him, so good at taking their cut of his wage for their 'services'. Thinking of getting him to call up and say I'm dealing with it all now so they can explain to angry hormonal pregnant lady why she can't finish her baby shopping yet again.
Also started looking at cars since I have my driving test next week and I can't fail. Ill try bribery if it comes to that but I want to be allowed to drive!

Oooo what did you go for Mummycox? Mine's arriving Monday!

He's forgiven now because he's gone out to buy me cake!

I'm struggling to breathe atm and sitting here groaning/moaning so he probably just wanted to get away quick!

Oh Good Luck MyDaydream! I will have everything crossed for you!

emilyeggs Sat 20-Oct-12 20:21:09

Welcome back honey plenty of r&r for you biscuit

Little one hardly moved today other than a few kicks this morning before work. Just had to run a bit for a bus and thought that might wake him/her up but no sad

emily cold drink, preferably sugary of caffeine fuelled and a lay down with your hand resting on your bump, you're bound to get booted!

2blessed Sat 20-Oct-12 20:30:08

Welcome back honey, make sure you take it easy.
Ive had a glorious day, picked up pramsuit for LO then came home and went straight to bed for 5 hours - bliss! Just had dinner, will have cream slice in front of x factor then off to bed. Most relaxed I've felt in ages.
After catching up on posts, I'm considering a tens machine am such a wuss with pain and needles, even though you don't see epidural going in.

emilyeggs Sat 20-Oct-12 20:31:37

Thanks spotty will try that when I get in. Told dh and ha says baby probably asleep. Always makes me feel like I'm over reacting

kate2boysandabump Sat 20-Oct-12 20:39:05

Welcome home Honey I think your dh is right plenty of rest after this. Changes to your eyes are quite common in pregnancy, my eyes have changed shape and I need to be fitted for new contact lenses.

MyDaydream How long did it take for your maternity allowance confirmation to come? I've filled in the form, just waiting for the paper work to go in it, if payroll get their arses in gear hmm

Spotty Not unreasonable at all, good job he's going for cake wink

MyDaydream Sat 20-Oct-12 21:05:51

honey I think you should take the time now to relax and put work out of your mind. My focus has changed in pregnancy it takes me a while now if things are far away, keep thinking of new glasses but they'll probably have to wait.
kate I think I sent it two weeks ago, three maximum. It was faster than I was expecting and should get my first payment in 5-10 days according to the letter. Just check it when you get the confirmation, I asked for mine to start next month but they've started me in September, it works out better for us as it turns out but best to make sure it's all right.
I'm bored, DP is making me watch The Avengers, I don't like superheroes and I don't really like films. I also let him pick the cake for tonight and I didn't like that either.

emilyeggs Sat 20-Oct-12 22:24:06

Little sters moving again grin

Glad there's movement emily I wish tadpole would stop trying to somersault! It's not comfy!

Had a gorgeous curry for dinner. Yummy!

giraffe213 Sat 20-Oct-12 22:49:48

Glad to hear it emily. Mine has days of moving less, especially if I feel tired myself, but always seems to reassure with a major wriggle just when I'm starting to worry properly.

Whoever was asking about the WC jab, I think my arm was sore for about 3 days afterwards! Had it on Tuesday and this is the first day I haven't really noticed it - it still hurts a bit if I press it.

Does anyone here watch Downton Abbey? (surely...) Since last week I've been freaking out a bit about pre-eclampsia - always been a bit of a hypochondriac, my feet have been getting swollen for weeks now (the midwife isn't bothered and cheerfully said it'll probably get worse!), and this week I've got a cold, so yes, I do have a bit of a headache, when I think about it... how bad does it have to be? I'm guessing a proper headache that doesn't go away with paracetamol.

Secondsop Sun 21-Oct-12 00:37:52

Hello all. honey glad to hear you're feeling better - I too am inclined to agree with your husband about you stopping work sooner rather than later.

I'm finding the discussions about birth plans, pain relief, TENS, pethadine etc to be really useful, hearing all your different viewpoints. I had pethadine after an operation years ago and I have to say I bloody loved it at the time, but it did space me out and I'm not sure i want to be so spaced out in labour. I remember going to the loo during that hospital stay and catching sight of my enormous, druggy eyes in the mirror, which scared me a bit.

Today has been good - picked up baby stuff including pushchair and carseat of reliable provenance from a friend, then a family dinner (curry) after which my blood sugars were excellent (stuck to a half portion of rice but plenty of curry) although I was sad to miss out on the chocolate cake afterwards.

Secondsop Sun 21-Oct-12 00:38:44

I also managed to freak out my sister by showing her the baby's highly visible movements - he put on quite a show.

2blessed Sun 21-Oct-12 04:49:13

Oh well, me and LO are awake, the partying in my belly has started smile
giraffe ive not watched downton since season 1, planning to watch the box sets on mat leave.
second what pushchair did u get? Love showing/watching the bump move and people's reactions...

2blessed Sun 21-Oct-12 04:51:31

Oh well, me and LO are awake, the partying in my belly has started smile
giraffe ive not watched downton since season 1, planning to watch the box sets on mat leave. Kinda got the gist of last week's episode though.
second what pushchair did u get? Love showing/watching the bump move and people's reactions...

2blessed Sun 21-Oct-12 04:52:19

Ooops double post, sorry

giraffe when I had pre-eclampsia it wasn't a headache it was a migraine. I was being sick every half an hour all night and had the spots in my vision. My hands, feet and face were all swollen. I've also been getting swollen feet for ages now but as long as they're normal by the morning it's fine, with PE they don't go down smile

utopian99 Sun 21-Oct-12 09:04:55

Have been awake in chunks all night as DH has a food bug from what i suspect was the burger last night. He's not doing well (we've both been hospitalised for gastro in the past, so am keeping an eagle eye out for it getting much worse, but so far not, thank heavens..)

I've been a bit dissmissive about all the pg food rules, although have stuck to them, so now quite glad I did. Crumb is frisking about in worry too.. sad

EggsMichelle Sun 21-Oct-12 09:50:45

My DH has had a virus for the last few days, resulting in multiple toilet trips in the middle of the night and snoring, driving me mad.

Slept with a pillow under my bump for the first time last night, although my hip seemed to be sore from the position, I did manage to get back off to sleep each time I woke up so that's a bonus. Using an old feather pillow in the hope that it will be easier to mould around the bump.

Dong what Sunday mornings were made for, watching Hollyoaks omnibus!

MaMaPo Sun 21-Oct-12 10:11:15

Morning all! After an unbelievable almost-unbroken 10 hours sleep the other night, last night I was back to frequent trips to the loo because of thirst, and I kept waking up lying on my back with a sore back. I think I'm coming down with a cold, so feeling tip top all round.

Hmm - yet another weekend of getting absolutely nothing baby-related done. We really must pull our fingers out. So far this baby has odds and ends to wear (nowhere near enough - a couple of bits and pieces the right size from anywhere from newborn to 1 year old), nowhere to sleep, no way to be transported, and I have nothing for the hospital. On the other hand, we have a delicious lemon tart to take to our friends' place for Sunday lunch, and two lovely Christmas puddings boiling on the stove. You can see where our priorities are!

Honey, very glad to hear you're back home! Take it easy.

At 32 weeks starting to feel more and more uncomfortable, even in the bump isn't that huge. I am wishing it were bigger, as perhaps my stomach and lungs could get a look in. It is reliably taking me 2-3 times as long to finish my dinner compared to my husband, as I need so many rest periods. He keeps looking at me with a mixture of humour and sympathy and reassuring me that it's not a sprint. Still, finishing my meal while it's still warm would be nice!

JoJoB77 Sun 21-Oct-12 10:18:44

Gah, evil heartburn has definitely made its appearance sad

EggsMichelle Sun 21-Oct-12 10:55:40

I have stretch marks on my belly button!!!

Secondsop Sun 21-Oct-12 11:45:04

2blessed it's a quinny buzz frame plus car seat that clips on; she couldn't find the actual chair bit though so I'm hoping I can buy one from somewhere. I guess I can wheel the baby around in the car seat for a while though can't I? That is the point of the ones that slot into pushchair frames isn't it, so that you don't have to transfer the baby from one seat to another?

Eggs if you have a pillow under your bump I think you're meant to put one between your legs/knees too, that should help your hip?

Dp has been ill the past few days too with really bad stomach cramps but nothings come of it. He's still been working and they've been doing something with drains/sewage (no protective clothing) hmm so it's probably that.

We went swimming my hips hurt now didn't even do any actual swimming. The pool seemed so cold dd shivered the whole time

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Sun 21-Oct-12 12:07:01

Mama, just grab a couple of packs of vests and sleep suits the next time you're in the supermarket, add in some hats and a coat if you spot them. Then, you'll need a car seat (Argos) and a pushchair (ditto).

Arrange a day out in town with dp/mum/sister/broody mate to get a moses basket, couple of flat sheets and cotton blankets, and anything else that's actually essential (couple of bottles just in case, for example). Everything else goes on the Christmas Wish List for someone else to organise grin

Secondsop Sun 21-Oct-12 12:17:54

mama I was panicking a week or so ago about having nothing for the baby and then I read what someone on here (can't remember who I'm afraid) said which was that all the baby really needs at the start is something to wear, something to cover his bottom, a means of getting him home from the hospital, and somewhere to sleep. If you're not breastfeeding add something to eat to that list. The rest can be gathered together afterwards.

emilyeggs Sun 21-Oct-12 12:51:28

seconds I was told in shop it's ok for baby to be pushed in car seat on frame as long as its not for more than two hours, something to do with there backs. I ended up getting a 0-4 car seat for dh's car and the oyster carry cot so he/she can lie flat (plus I don't drive so won't be doing much transferring, just fighting with public transport) grin

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Sun 21-Oct-12 13:29:42

Oh yeah, nappies and cotton wool - again, just chuck some in the trolley grin

MyDaydream Sun 21-Oct-12 13:51:30

pidj you make it sound so easy. I keep going down the baby aisle planning to get nappies, cotton wool, wipes but can't choose a brand so walk off dejected thinking I don't belong there yet!

emilyeggs Sun 21-Oct-12 14:13:48

Need to rant angry AIBU? I just asked dh ( might drop the d hear) if he would read my birth plan, he looked at me holding it and said in a bored voice "not really" angry I'm so upset sad all made worse by the fact he already pissed me off this morning because I fed the cat too early and we are "trying to get him into a routine" ha! Good luck with that! (I fed him at 4am so he wouldn't wake everyone up with his meowing). Because that upset me and dh carried on as normal a was told I was just grumpy! Well I've walked out now and left him with his kids (feels like they matter and my one dosen't as, as he puts it, he/she is not in this world yet) sadangrysadangry

Mummycox Sun 21-Oct-12 15:08:27

Oh Emily he's being harsh. Have some you time and let things cool off.

Spotty we went for overpriced but very nice mamas and papas zoom gotten in the sale; after months of searching took DH into a local shop and told him to choose, which he did in 3 mins. hmm

Am feeling smug as have gone from not being ready to being almost finished, in three weeks. Just got bottles to get now, just in case.

Dear friend who now has two DCs has suggested getting a box of formula in and taking to hospital with you, as hospital may not have the type that you wanted to use, should feeding not go to plan immediately. Apparently saving lots of tears.

Happy Sunday.

I would disagree with getting a box of formula. Feeding can be quite hard in those first few days and your milk won't even have come in by the time you leave the hospital. My hospital has SMA boo hiss aptimil and cow & gate I think.

Sorry your dh is being an arse Emily sad

I've just had an hours nap which was lovely smile

mydaydream just get supermarket brand everything! just as good. Although I've had some bad experiences with Tesco nappies so if i can afford it i do buy pampers nappies (although in bulk/on offer to Make them good value) Don't panic, people will be asking 'can I get you anythin?' Once you have the baby. And like pidj said - Christmas list for the less urgent things. But if you do really want to get lots of bits in then I would have a brain storm and write a good old list smile I do LOVE a list. I've written FAR too many!
Sorry to hear of crappy DPs, I think our secret is the fact he's been out at work all weekend! Have a good rant and treat yourself to cake/chocolate.
Awful day today, DD is in 'awful 3 year old' mood today, had screams and stares all the way round the supermarket and then the washing liquid dropped on the ground, split, and went everywhere. Including me. I don't know how I haven't cried!

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Sun 21-Oct-12 15:29:25

I have a couple of packs of pampers due to vouchers, otherwise cheap as possible - they're only going to get shat on! A lot of my friends knit (so presents aren't terribly spontaneous, I've got an idea of what's coming due to people checking I'm ok with handmade) and can guarantee you'll be inundated with outfits, toys, nappy cakes etc.

Ps my philosophy is: if you're given a present, say thank you it's lovely. If it's vile, put it at the back of the cupboard ready for that first bout of d+v blush

Can someone please make me a roast???!

I found tesco nappies were good for dd although the Pampers ones are pretty cheap to start with anyway. Now she's bigger we buy the Pampers Simply Dry which are just their value range and cheaper than standard Tesco ones.

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Sun 21-Oct-12 15:54:14

I got the smallest pack of nb pampers in Boots to get the free change bag!

Secondsop Sun 21-Oct-12 16:12:50

Oh emilyeggs that sounds tough re your husband. It sounds a bit like he isn't really clocking that although it's not his first baby, it IS your first and that you need him to be as emotionally involved. Hope it improves - could you emphasise with him the importance of him being familiar with your birth plan because you're going to need him to be prepared to be your advocate for you in labour? . And as an owner of a cat, i know full well that there's no way to stop them meowing at 4am if that's what they want to do. In the same way that there is no way to stop my cat bashing at the bedroom door if we try to shut him out of it at night, or insisting on sleeping on my sofa blanket instead of his own.

Thanks for your tip about the pushchairs / carseats. I've just won the quinny buzz carrycot on eBay for £21 - am over the moon. I can drive, technically, but have barely done so for literally 15 years so if I'm taking him out by myself it's public transport all the way until I can get my driving skills and confidence back.

For whoever was asking about nappies - someone on another thread recommended Aldi nappies so I've bought some of them and will give them a go - as pidg says, they are indeed only going to get shat on!

emilyeggs Sun 21-Oct-12 16:30:20

I've calmed down now, he enticed me home with a roast dinner. I don't think he means to upset me, he admits himself he's not very involved untill the baby arrives, that's just him and was the same with his two. He said he'll be excited when I go into labour and he is a good dad so I'm sure will find a balance. It's a combination of me being sensitive and him not so much

emilyeggs Sun 21-Oct-12 16:31:05

Ps great news about the bargain carry cot seconds grin

If anyone has a Costco neat and a card/friend with a card. The pampers and Huggins work out cheap there. Also wipes. We got 18 panels of johnsons wipes from there for £11 on a multibuy offer. Also got 1000 nappy bags for around £5. Obviously you need some storage though!

Well today I have sorted a lot of stuff for our holiday, but I can't fully pack as I don't have enough pants! Lol but we've got the suitcases out and stuff too so that's nearly organised! 5 sleeps! Eeek! <excited>

It's dd's 8th birthday tomo! (I honestly can't work out how she got so old so fast!!) so I've got her presents out of the loft and bought her a cake. Thankfully she's at school all day so I don't have to try and do birthday entertainment. Then we've got mil coming over to do presents so the evening is pretty full!

DH has been jet washing the wooden decking today as I nearly went arse over tit getting the washing in the other day because it was soooo slippery! I have to make it up to him later though as normally that stuffs my job because he's got a bad back, so he's in pain now!

2blessed Sun 21-Oct-12 16:36:31

seconds quinny was my 2nd choice, my friend had her baby last year and was happy with it.
mummycox my DP threatened me with taking charge of pushchair buying when I was doing my usual weighing up of choices -dithering- and it would have taken him all of 3 minutes also!
emily hope a bit of space has made yoi feel better, this is my dc1 and dp's dc4 and there have been times when I've felt he's not as excited as me. Then last week when we were chatting about first few days after lo arrives and I saw the cutest smile on his face. He's excited, just showing it differently...

Secondsop Sun 21-Oct-12 16:49:30

Re wipes, a couple of weeks ago mothercare had "buy 1 get 2 free" (yes I did get the numbers the right way round) - not sure if it's still on.

I like Boots and Tesco wipes because they have a hard top and are easier to get out one handed!

Mummycox Sun 21-Oct-12 17:43:30

Spotty Now I'm just confused about milk. I shall ask the hospital what they have when we have a tour in a couple of weeks. Obvs going to do my best but have an innate fear of not being able to feed at all.

There's not much between them to be honest. But if the midwives think your baby needs supplementing more medical reasons I'm pretty sure they'll supply it for you. If not your dh can pop to the shop and get some ready made cartons smile in fact you could just get some of them anyway they're not expensive and a couple of them won't take up much room

Secondsop Sun 21-Oct-12 18:27:02

I'm taking a couple of cartons of ready made milk along with the disposable teats in to hospital with me just in case. I think my hospital supplies formula if (and only if) you can't breastfeed for medical reasons.

We really need to put together the baby's wardrobe so that we can start storing his things - everything's all over the house at the moment. My husband is truly useless at such things though and gets all flustered, so I'm going to have to take the lead with it. We had a houseguest for several months this year (about which, don't get me started) but his major, major redeeming feature was that he was an absolute ninja with flat pack construction.

emilyeggs Sun 21-Oct-12 18:35:01

Just blubbed at Dumbo sad the scene with his mother

Poor dd has a temperature. Stupid teeth sad she's been so good all day though you wouldn't know she's poorly!

Hospitals could well be different but when I chose to abandon the breast feeding plan they had little bottles of SMA, Aptamil and Cow and Gate which they happily let me use for feeds. The nice assistant even gave me a few to take home for the first day as I had nothing by way of steriliser, bottles or formula as I had been set on bf.

I used to find the tesco nappies would leak at night thus resulting in wee covered sheets and a damp baby sad also had more poo explosions in public, on average. At times I would buy a small pack of pampers and a big pack of supermarket brand and kept the pampers for night and outings! But there is absolutely nothing wrong with non branded nappies.

My god I'm going to lose the plot today! Vry much faced with 'how am I going to cope?!' Syndrome today!

Great news on carry cot!! smile

I think it's another one of those things that depends on the shape of your baby. My sisters dd leaks all the time even through cloth whereas dd never has.

That's what they fm gave us for dd, we used Aptimil

Dp is folding the towels, I want to do them all again hmm

spotty I get like that when DH hangs washing lol

Argh does he do it all randomly; things inside out, socks not in pairs etc?!

Yep and, and, and he doesn't shake or straighten things so they're all creased and some may be 4/6 layers thick where they're pegged!

How he thinks it will ever dry I don't know!! Lol

MyDaydream Sun 21-Oct-12 20:02:50

DP isn't allowed to do washing anymore. He hangs everything folded in half to save space but doesn't get that's why everything takes days to dry and smells funny. But he doesn't like my standard of washing up or cleaning windows so it all works out.

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Sun 21-Oct-12 20:05:41

Dp is fab at laundry - but hangs stuff crumpled on the airer and moans it takes forever to dry hmm

We did it together today and i went round him straightening it all blush

Cot up, washed baby clothes in drawers, curtains hung... It's all starting to come together <eep>

Hmm we need to send them to some kind of boot camp! Dp has a habit of hiding things in cupboards too hmm

Exciting pidj grin

As of 31st October I have fortnightly scans so know it'll go really quick from then!

Bellaboo123 Sun 21-Oct-12 20:17:47

I'm another one who recommends Costco - really good value.

Feeing really ill - awful headache, lights making it worse, body aches, feet are burning, eyes hurt - just generally feeling sorry for myself sad

Bella you can take co-codamol if paracetamol hasn't worked (as long as you've left adequate time between). Hope you feel better

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sun 21-Oct-12 20:23:25

My DP pegs trousers by the knees and then wonders why I repaeg them. Have you ever tried ironing peg marks out of work trousers, especially when they are non-iron. Ditto peg nipples in tops!

Bellaboo123 Sun 21-Oct-12 20:30:23

Thanks spotty I might try that -I'm sure I've got some

My DP is the same if he hangs washing out its a mess and takes ages to dry unless I straighten it all up!

Yep a definite trend. DP layers things about 4 items thick, doesn't shake out sleeves etc and everything smells. And if he ever puts it away it takes me months to find anything again as he puts things in the nost ridiculous of places...hmm

EggsMichelle Sun 21-Oct-12 20:36:52

My DH insists on tumble drying everything (will get it out the washer before I can hang it) then leaves it in the tumbly too long and moans that it needs extreme ironing after (I refuse to iron his clothes if he has tumbled them!)

Made DH shave my legs (was resembling a bear) feel a lot cooler now on my legs, very lovely feeling!

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sun 21-Oct-12 20:37:01

Oops just had chippy tea which has shot my blood sugars straight to 9.0 eek! I'm going to get told off on Wednesday at diabetes clinic blush it was worth it

Mine was 10 after dinner grin don't be surprised if it goes a bit higher still as your body takes longer to absorb fatty things. Don't panic about it though its only one reading smile

WerewolvesDoTheFandango Sun 21-Oct-12 20:48:54

Haha I feel so naughty. I so deserve a high reading, I had pudding, chips, mushy peas and gravy. Back on the salmon and rice this week to prove I can be good. Suppose it's been 3 weeks now so not surprising they're starting to get worse. I haven't seen a dietician yet, that's only on Friday.

pmgkt Sun 21-Oct-12 20:57:04

I think there is a lot said for the shape of baby/nappies. I don't get on with pampers at all, wouldn't get them if they were free, huggies newborn were lovely but size 3 upwards only if they are cheap. I love Asda or Tesco, and they are cheap.

giraffe213 Sun 21-Oct-12 21:41:25

So true about DP/DH's and laundry... you all could be describing my own! And I rarely iron so it has to be hung flat, not just thrown on there.

Like Pidgin I bought Pampers so I could get the free changing bag - I haven't bought any Huggies because they haven't given me any vouchers! I heard Lidl nappies are also good, but I'm not planning to buy any more until after the birth as baby will be in cloth as soon as he/she is big enough.

Definately a trend for DH/DPs then. Lol

At least they have their good points!

A friend brought more baby stuff round for me today. Play mat with arch, bumbo, door bouncer, walker, and 3-12 month boys clothes. Let's hope bump is a boy I'll never have to buy clothes again! Lol

With the other dcs I used tesco own brand nappies they were great. This time I've got both huggies and pampers from Costco when they were cheap, so I'll work out which fit best. I was given tiny baby nappies by a friend, up to 5lb, I keep looking at them and going 'awwww' as they look like dollies nappies.

PurplePidjInAPointyHat Sun 21-Oct-12 21:45:42

Same here, giraffe, i just need to get through the meconium first!

I made the mw laugh pointing out the baby will be in cloth while I'm in sposies wink