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November 2012 - babies arriving early and impatient mummies-to-be

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StuntNun Tue 09-Oct-12 20:39:33
Catbag Tue 09-Oct-12 21:00:47

Marking my place and acknowledging that patience is not a virtue that I possess grin (typed while bouncing furiously on birthing ball)

ValiumQueen Tue 09-Oct-12 21:12:17


NervousAt20 Tue 09-Oct-12 21:25:11

Marking place even though it seems like I just did this

kirrinIsland Tue 09-Oct-12 21:30:19

Marking place

TheDetective Tue 09-Oct-12 21:40:12

Don't fuck the fanjo Catbag grin

GTbaby Tue 09-Oct-12 21:52:42

I can't keep up. After Sunday ill have no hope of keeping up to date

ShellyBobbs Wed 10-Oct-12 06:25:31

This is the thread where Cat has her babies! grin

ComradeJing Wed 10-Oct-12 06:55:56

Marking my place. I keep meaning to come back to these threads and then I forget and life gets in the way.

Can I just say that moving country when you are 7 months pg is a shit idea?

Hope everyone is well and getting some sleep. I seem to be weeing every 20 minutes or so at night and it's driving me maaaaaaaaaaad.

<marks place>

StuntNun Wed 10-Oct-12 08:17:42

Detective isn't that what got us all into this mess in the first place?

Marking place.

Brockle Wed 10-Oct-12 15:54:14

marking my place

Lane81 Wed 10-Oct-12 17:53:45

Marking place. Where are you moving to comrade?

Marking my place too. Having a reassurance scan and review tomorrow with consultant and here's hoping she signs me back over to midwife-led care so I can have my home birth smile

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Wed 10-Oct-12 20:02:43

Marking place too. Have pointless apt with MW tomorrow to discuss birth plan when consultant decided last week tis a section pour moi.

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 10-Oct-12 21:08:03

Me too marking place. I can't stop weeping either, but the worse thing is when you feel,like you are absolutely bursting and thatwhen you go it will be hose pipe like, but actually all you squeeze out is a drop because the little bugger is squashing your bladder into oblivion and probably having a right old laugh about it.

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 10-Oct-12 21:11:53

I didn't mean weeping obviously I meant weeing why can't this iPad realise that I say what I mean and stop trying to twisted my words around.

The other thread's now full. It lasted 6 days shock gosh we can talk grin

Passmethecrisps Wed 10-Oct-12 21:14:36

I'm another 20 minute wee'r. Sometime the wee is soooo tiny I have actually considered just weeing myself. I know if I tried this it would be a gusher.

Passmethecrisps Wed 10-Oct-12 21:15:23

Good job apple!

Maybe our rate of chatting is directed proportionate to the speed the babies arrive at.

TheDetective Wed 10-Oct-12 21:16:21

I am sore. Tired. Grumpy. Achy. Whingy. Oh, and unreasonable.

But I've got my pool, so that means everything seems better now!!

I've hobbled around all day doing the things that need doing, as today was my last day off before I'm full term grin. I still need... candles, proper coffee, nice biscuits, and some low wattage light bulbs. But I'll send DP for those. I'm done... no more shopping for me for a while!

I think I have a UTI. Got lots of braxton hicks, plus with the sore fanjo, I did a dipstick and I have leuccocytes, protein and blood in urine. Classic signs of a pregnancy UTI those! Have a community midwife appointment tomorrow evening, but think I'll get a GP appt prior and get some antibiotics, last thing I want is to send myself in to labour!

I'm struggling with walking so took some codeine this afternoon and had a nap, and woke up in a worse state! Codeine really does make me feel shite! No more codeine! I'm walking a little easier this evening though, as I topped up with some more paracetomol! I'm a little hesitant about work tomorrow. I'll just have to see how I am in the morning afternoon I guess.

Oh, and I'd like to point out how stupid my DP is sometimes... he decided to have a trial run with the pool, with out reading the instructions. He spent 20 minutes pumping it up by hand (wrongly too!) until he realised there was an electric pump with it. Oh, how I laughed grin

It doesn't matter how many times I tell him to read the instructions.....!!

(Good job I c&p this! Old thread ran out while typing sad )

kirrinIsland Wed 10-Oct-12 21:17:55

grin pass I know just what you mean!

horsey in my experience it's not that hard to lose your temper with chefs at the best of times - I would not want to being to working in restaurant right now, not with my hormonal tendencies to get cross or upset about things that don't matter at all!

Sorry detective blush

YellowWellies Wed 10-Oct-12 21:20:03

Detective grin on your DH's manual administrations to the pool!
sad on the UTI

To the weepy brigade, I'll nominate myself too. Most unlike me, but I had a good sniffle reading some of the birth stories in that Juju whatsit book this afternoon. I feel like I've had a 'girl graft' since becoming preggers... used to be much more stoic

kirrinIsland Wed 10-Oct-12 21:20:49

Feel free to rearrange /delete words from my last post til it makes sense .....

horseylady Wed 10-Oct-12 21:26:13

I lost my temper because he was being a twat, I am tired and he was being horrid.

I told him, in no uncertain terms that this was the case. The owner then came in.

I think they'll tell me not to bother coming back and that's fine! It's the one job I'm struggling to leave so if the decision is taken out my hands then fine!! I'm going to call the owner shortly just to say sorry!!

It's very very rare my temper goes. But my god it's a red mist when it does. Baby now kicking me and had a couple of bh.

Bath time I think!!!!

2 days left at the hospital sad and smile

Passmethecrisps Wed 10-Oct-12 21:38:34

horsey if he was being a twat then it is likely everyone was delighted he was finally told.

horseylady Wed 10-Oct-12 21:46:45

Probably.....the waitresses were smiling!! Decided to call them tomorrow now as I'm shattered!! Plus it's not really that big a deal. He'll be the one with the problem, not me.

I feel fine now, think it was just one comment too many from him and I just felt myself temper go......

Hate it when it happens though!! Dh remembers me walking out on his dad for a similar reason. It is always justified though!!

georgee Wed 10-Oct-12 22:03:52

YW, you talking about Birth Skills reminds me of my labour (just before it all went t*ts up and I had to have an EMCS) - DH keeping presenting me with tennis balls and asking whether I wanted to bounce them together ... and me telling him to F*CK OFF!!!! - I'm sure you'll be better at matching the pain than I was, I don't think I studied the book very well (I certainly don't remember the bits about what if it all goes wrong, I could have done with that ...). [Makes a mental note to read birth books properly in future.]

MissMummy1 Wed 10-Oct-12 22:09:04

Horsey I cometely lost it with the chef at the pub i worked at during my last student summer. He was a twat all summer, hated by everyone and a complete perv. I'm normally quite reserved but he caught me on my period off guard one evening during my last week. The owners took my side, paid me a months wages (they didnt know i was handing my weeks notice in the next day) and I finished there and then. Karma got the bastard as his wife left him a few weeks later and he was sacked about a month after that grin.

YW and others (baby brain forgets who) I havent forgiven him for being a complete dick. Im just tired of shouting at him and will plot my revenge quietly. Apparently he went into work ranting about me keeping him awake and the daddy declhands and skippers gave him a total bollocking for being selfish and asked why I hadn't castrated him. He's been getting grief from them and me all day. Good.

YellowWellies Wed 10-Oct-12 22:10:37

Excellent vocalisation skills georgee Juju would have been proud.

I do like the fact that the book just seeks to empower you and make yourself feel as if you've had a good go - even if you do end up with the whole gamut of interventions. There's no judgment and I liked that. I've no idea how I'm going to cope - I could be diamorphined up to the hilt and in need of an EMCS (and I'm really going to try not to beat myself up if this happens as all four of our sisters' births ended up as EMCS!!!) but I have a bit of confidence at the moment and that is more than I had at the start of pregnancy!

I don't think the stressballs etc are going to work for me but I have a feeling that being talked across a contraction and counted down might help me. I like the idea of using a bridge as a metaphor - am going to use the Forth bridge!

Elizadoesdolittle Wed 10-Oct-12 22:20:04

Marking place....had midwife appt today. Baby still head down and unlikely to move so hopefully will stay that way. Off to bed now, I actually slept from 11pm-6am last night. Can't remember the last time that happened. I'm hoping for more of the same tonight!

TheDetective Wed 10-Oct-12 22:21:32

I am eating a giant box of maltesers. All to myself. Mmmmm.

Everyone DP keeps looking at me. But I'm not sharing grin

horseylady Wed 10-Oct-12 22:24:49

Mm he's a total drama queen and to be honest I know he'll have stayed late (as I was going to call in and speak to the owner but the chef was still there) and will advise them I shouldn't be working as I'm too pregnant. As I said i get on with them and will chat with them tomorrow. I don't actually mind him, he just pushed me tonight slightly too far. So I told him that he was being horrid to everyone. And several other things, most of which questioned his ability as chef, which was uncalled for. He was then very quiet.

As for your dh, I think the changing bag will be nice!!!

I feel very round. My boobs have gone very round?? My bump is very round?? 37 weeks tomorrow and officially full term!!!! Of course I will be late as all the other 1/11 mummies have had their babies or have a date for having them!!

blonderthanred Wed 10-Oct-12 22:26:20

Hello, also bouncing on my birthing ball and marking my place! Just bought a load of oils and stuff for labour and hired a TENS from my midwife so no doubt I will end up with an EMCS...

TheDetective Wed 10-Oct-12 22:29:25

Horsey i'll be late with you! I don't want mine early! The absolute earliest I'd be happy with is 28/10 because that is when my official mat. leave starts! I'd much prefer 6-11th Nov! 6th would be nice smile

DP is convinced I will go early. Sods law dictates, what you want you don't get!!!!

I wanted to be early with DS, and went to 40+13 grin

georgee Wed 10-Oct-12 22:35:01

Absolutely YW, I liked the feeling of control and empowerment too in the book. I do remember doing a lot of bellowing too. In fact my best 'mum' friend, who was a few rooms down from me also in labour (I didn't know this at the time) told me afterwards about this woman making this horrendous noise. I realised it must have been me! blush

But yes if you do end up with the EMCS there'll be a very good reason for it, it won't be because you didn't match the pain properly. For me it was very bad positioning on the part of DD, nothing to be done there. I'm looking forward to having another go at doing it naturally - can't have two babies who want to come out face-first, surely?!

kissyfur Wed 10-Oct-12 22:46:11

Marking my place! Can't believe we've got thru another thread already.

Also think I just reported your second to last message by accident YW!! So sorry I didn't mean to at all, hit the button by accident instead of the next button, stupid small phone screen! So mumsnet if you're reading this please ignore me reporting a post blush blush blush

horseylady Wed 10-Oct-12 22:55:34

Detective we officially start nhs mat leave together then!!!

I'm happy him growing for a bit longer tbh. I need these two weeks holiday to relax and get myself sorted!!! There still seems loads to do and I'm still not quite ready to have a baby yet!!

Chunkychicken Wed 10-Oct-12 23:00:02

Just a brief one from me. I'm very very much hoping baby stays put for the next 3-6wks, as I found out OfSted are in tomorrow and Friday today. Essentially, on 2 of my last 5 days of work, I am required to deliver fantastic lessons, despite being full of cold & nearly 8mths pg. I went into work for over 5hrs (thank god for my lovely DH) despite it being one of my off days. I know of 2 other teachers who have gone into early labour and delivered their boys 7+ wks early as a result of being inspected/OfSted so I am somewhat bothered.... The only things on my side are that I only have 3 lessons in the next 2 days & I'm over 34wks, so if baby did come, chances are they'd do really well. I lose 4wks of my maternity leave if I started it early/tomorrow, so can't afford to do that, and it would look bad for the school too.

So I'll keep everyone up to date if my LO decides to jump the gun. Fingers crossed I actually get to my maternity leave first!!! 5 days and counting....

Good luck to everyone else. Hope (in the nicest possible way) that we don't hear any baby news for another couple of weeks!!

TheDetective Wed 10-Oct-12 23:04:18

I was supposed to start mine a week later sad But we won't get started on that ;)

I want a bit of time to get organised too. Also its half term at the end of October, and it would be lovely to have a few days with DS first, as I can't even remember the last time I had a week off over the school holidays!! Think it was 3 years ago shock

I can't believe I forgot to say this earlier... but I was a little mortified! I lay down in bed this afternoon, and saw a hair sticking up from below the bump. Thinking a stray hair had fell off my head on to my fanjo, I gave it a little tug. Turns out, it wasn't a stray hair at all blush. I really really really need to deal with the jungle that is occurring down there!!

And I definitely did not measure it to find it was over 3 inches long. Oh no grin

Baby has been active today, but not as active as usual. Until now. It is having its usual mosh pit headbanging fest now..... I want to go to bed!

TheDetective Wed 10-Oct-12 23:11:26

I just burped and farted at the same time. I blame baby grin

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Wed 10-Oct-12 23:15:45

Marking spot. Just back form John bishop...was hilarious!

TheDetective Wed 10-Oct-12 23:18:09

Oh I am so envy Izzy

daisychain76 Wed 10-Oct-12 23:25:31

Just marking place. Fed baby so l reckon l might sqeeze in 2 hours sleep before he is up again. Or 2 hours of worrying about not being able to get asleep...

capedcrusader25 Wed 10-Oct-12 23:30:17

Good luck for Ofsted chunky! I think I escaped ours, just. blue I hope your reassurance scan goes well tomorrow smile
I've just had a right baby wobble. This is my first and I've literally no idea what to do with an actual baby! sad
detective's fart/burp (farp?!) made me smile though. And I'm also jelaous of john bishop fun!

TheDetective Wed 10-Oct-12 23:34:46

Reminded me of labour last time... when I pee'd oneself and vomited at the same time. I had a bed pan underneath me, and a vomit bowl in my hand.

Glamerous I am not!

GTbaby Thu 11-Oct-12 00:39:05

Brilliant. Out for nice meal. Was looking forward to a snuggle in bed today.

DH start asking about movement of fraggle. Has it moved. How strong. N made me paranoid I wasn't feelin as much. Fast forward 4 hour. Sat in triage. Extremely grumpy. They r keeping me in over night to monitor. DH has gone home to get me night clothes. I'm so tiered I wana sleep but know I won't be able to sad. This sucks n

Iheartpasties Thu 11-Oct-12 02:38:01

pikz have a look at this – to do with the delivery of the placenta! Before I went to my antenatal classes I didn’t even know you had to deliver the placenta!!!!! midwifethinking.com/?s=placenta

I have just sorted out the hall cupboard, its tidier than the rest of the flat!! Haha. I am thinking about packing my hospital bag, but cant get up off my arse.

GTbaby oh dear, are you ok? I hope you get some sleep.

TiAAAAARGHo Thu 11-Oct-12 03:06:55

Hi all. Marking place while suffering insomnia. If I could only sleep between 2 and 5am...

DebussyHead Thu 11-Oct-12 04:38:28

Another insomniac here. My legs are killing me and I'm starving. Think I'll just get up and have some cereal.

rowingdowntheriver Thu 11-Oct-12 04:45:27

I'm awake too! Am going to catch up on the thread - should help me pass an hour!

NattyCraig Thu 11-Oct-12 04:50:50

Marking place, due 01/11 smile)

izzy I'm very envy I missed out going to Rhod Gilbert earlier in the year when my MS combined with a uti meant I was too ill to go, although I did find out I was pregnant during a weekend in London seeing Jack Whitehall grin can't wait to get back to comedy gigs again!

As for Ferps/barts?! I have had excessive wind which is usually followed by "gosh! Thanks for that baby!" grin down side is DP blames the baby for his too, claiming he's already a little ventriloquist who can "throw his farts!" grin

I was entirely not glamorous in labour, first time my water burst in a gush on the hospital floor which I cried because I thought I had done a wee on my foot, followed by a big poo while pushing. blush

Second time I said "I'm going to be sick!" The midwife told me it was in my head and to calm down or I would be sick so I promptly threw up out the window. blush

Classy laydee am I grin

GT I hope all is well, have some <hugs>

( although, can you imagine 2 heavily pregnant ladies hugging? It would be hilarious! I might have to go find one in RL now to test this theory.smile)

StuntNun Thu 11-Oct-12 06:24:47

Tits I don't think it would work unless you have very long arms lol.

GT I hope everything's alright and you managed to get some sleep.

I definitely never vomited in labour and I don't remember doing a poo either (although it's possible I did and it was whisked away without me knowing) so don't worry first-timers, labour isn't all about the bodily fluids!

DH has finally brought down lots of stuff from the loft now his panic has finally set in at 28 days to go so I have lots of lovely baby stuff to sort through and clean. I found the old bagsling that DS2 had so I'm going to part exchange it for a new Calinbleu wrap seeing as they're now considered unsafe. I can't say I'm surprised as it was never possible to get DS2 into a comfy position in it. Cot should be going up at the weekend and I must really get my bags packed now I'm 36 weeks. I also have to pack bags for my DSs in case they have to stay with their Grampy overnight. It could be really complicated because he lives 30 minutes drive away so I don't know how he'll get them to school on time if he needs to. I have enough problems and it's two minutes drive for me.

Baby was really active for about three hours non-stop yesterday evening. He was either practicing Ju Jitsu or trying to do star jumps. I take it that increased movement is nothing to worry about. I hope this one's not hyperactive like his big brother.

Just marking my place
Good we talk lots grin

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 07:02:51

detceive I dreamt about your pool last night!!!! grin

I am really trying to enjoy these last days, particularly the ones where DS is at nursery and I can pay 50s housewife hmmand just potter about......but.......does anyone else feel that October is dragging by?

Catbag Thu 11-Oct-12 07:07:44

Yes, Sophia, October is dragging. This thread should have been named 'another thread for Catbag to fill up with whinging' lol

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 07:18:32

Welcome natty same due date as me and horsey She will be pleased. I am due a section in 2 weeks, but wonder if boy may be making plans for an earlier escape. Term today!!!

TMI alert! Have had slight blood tinged discharge. I do not think it is my waters as not enough. Deffo not wee (for a change). Nothing jelly like. Just like you get with the tail end of a period. Mostly old blood, but a slight bit of fresh when I went to the loo this morning. Also accompanied by sore BHs and low period type cramps. I am seeing the MW today, but I think I am in denial a bit. That is the trouble with a planned section. You do not really consider what might happen if things kicked off before that date. I do not want things to kick off before that date.

Wow loads to catch up on overnight!

Welcome natty not long for you then!

valium ooh things could be imminent then, I'm guessing if things start before your planned c-sec they'll just do it early?

Not much going on here today, think we're going to take ds swimming this morning.

Dixiebell Thu 11-Oct-12 07:29:22

Ooh valium good luck!

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 07:41:11

No! no! You are not meant to say that! You are meant to say probably a UTI or something! (does not mention back pain or recent bum explosion).

Yes, they would just do the section, but I would need to be well on the way to labour I think.

rowingdowntheriver Thu 11-Oct-12 07:51:58

valium and gt, I hope you are both ok? Good luck valium if it is the start if labour.

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 08:08:50

Good luck vq that unfortunately sounds pretty like IT to me. Let us know how you appointment goes.

Baby brain alert...I have to do a rush job into town today.....I ordered, on next day delivery yesterday, a higher tog sleeping bag, a rucksack and a new top for DS as it is the boys trip to Northern Ireland on Sat and I assume it's a few degrees cooler than the south east (stunt what's the weather doing?) anyway I cooly waltzed out of the website leaving the stuff in my basket and not checking out! I am hoping I can get what I need in the actual shops, I find often these days they don't seem to hold as much stock as the used to they just say "oh you can order it online" grrr

And DH has decided to cramp my style and work from home. Double grrr!! grin

NattyCraig Thu 11-Oct-12 08:23:29

Woken up this morning feeling very dizzy, getting double vision, vomiting loads and having exploding bum (sorry TMI) as well as horrible back pain. Not sure if this is just side effects to having flu jab and whooping cough jab yesterday.

Sophia hope you manage to get the things you need


Catbag Thu 11-Oct-12 08:24:23

VQ Shit! Forgot to issue a cease and desist on C-sections! Stop looking for loopholes!

daisychain76 Thu 11-Oct-12 09:01:13

Hope you are ok vq, gt and natty. Was up at 2, 5 and 7 this am so feel like l am having the ‘proper‘ mummy experience now smile

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 09:12:43


Hope poorly peeps feel better soon. natty you shouldn't really have any side effects. Make sure you check in with a midwife if you don't feel better soon.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 09:18:12

natty that does not sound like it is anything to do with the jabs. They are not live vaccines so cannot give you lurgy, and sore arm is hopefully all you would feel. I encourage you to call triage or dr just to be on the safe side.

Not sure what to think about how I feel. Had a couple of contractions that felt like I was a tube of toothpaste being squeezed from down below to about belly button, but not sustained. Glad I am seeing MW. Gonna check bags and car seat just in case.

StuntNun Thu 11-Oct-12 09:20:40

Sophia it was 2 degrees at 7 a.m. yesterday. It's a bit warmer today but that's because it's lashing down. So not too bad really grin we're not quite into hats/scarf/gloves weather yet.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 09:24:57

The lowest temp we have had near Stirling is 1 degree at 8 am. It is over 10 this morning due to the rain. I hate scraping the car.

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 09:30:03

Yep. Drizzlesome this morning.

I am getting very fed up of weeing all the time. Last night I ended up weeing standing up. How can I possibly have fluid retention??

Welcome natty

Izzy and Tits I love John Bishop and Rhod Gilbert. Would love to go and see them.

Baby was quite quiet yesterday but is making up for it this morning. Sure I've got little feet in my ribs.

Iheartpasties Thu 11-Oct-12 09:36:21

vq!!!! oooow.

NervousAt20 Thu 11-Oct-12 09:47:30

Good luck today at your reviews blue hope you can have your home birth

Hope everything okay GT and you managed to get some sleep

I agree that october is dragging too

valium what time do you have your MW app? Sounds like things could be happening grin

Hope your okay too natty

Have a fair bit if housework to do today, joy and think I might start washing LO clothes I was going to wait until next week when ill be over 37 w but getting worried as alot of ladies are going early

blonderthanred Thu 11-Oct-12 09:53:17

Wow 'citin VQ!

Today I am wearing socks for the first time since May. I think it might be Autumn.

Iheartpasties Thu 11-Oct-12 09:54:14

how many babies will be born to this thread? I think we get through a thread per 4 days so maybe one baby!?

Iheartpasties Thu 11-Oct-12 09:58:17

We just had take away pizza for tea! you guys r to blame.

ShellyBobbs Thu 11-Oct-12 09:58:56

GT Hope everything is OK

VQ Oooohhhh, aren't you the bugger that told us to stop until Cat gives birth you naughty naughty girl grin

As for counting and juggling tennis balls in labour!! If ANYONE even makes a sound when I'm having a contraction, touches me or even looks at me, I will floor them! ONCE with my first my hubby said, 'are you having a contraction?', he learnt after that to just stay quiet and stay away from me smile I would just happily go into a room on my own and give birth, I really would prefer to do that and just give someone a shout if I thought I needed help.

I've got a really bad headache in my right eye and am completely knackered despite 7.5 hours totally uninterrupted sleep last night. I think I'm going to go back to bed for a bit and try and shift it.

Just had another massive bowl of porridge, baby must have definitely moved right down because my belly will fit loads of porridge in now, which I am very happy about grin

Oh and I've still only put on 8lb, so like you Detective my weight has not changed for months either, looks like I'm going to end this pregnancy weighing 10st 12lb! Very strange.....

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Thu 11-Oct-12 09:59:56

Hiya, John Bishop was amazing. All staff couldn't have been more helpful to the heavily pregnant lady on crutches, so so helpful.

My DD is away overnight at Granny's but I'm up instead of lying in cos I stupidly forgot she wouldn't be here this morning and when health visitor called to see if she could come meet me today I said yes. She is not here yet, with two mins to go, and my tummy feels like a bum explosion is on the way....this could be interesting as no doubt when I go to loo she will arrive at door!! Argh!

I have midwife this afternoon as well. Fun fun fun!

I've put on 2 stone already, am now 10st and reckon it'll go up even more.

Swimmings off as ds has a cold so we're going out for lunch then prob spend all afternoon indoors as its going to rain, fun fun.

I'm going to start washing baby clothes next week and think about packing my hosp bag.

MissMummy1 Thu 11-Oct-12 10:09:47

Crap sleep last night. Made a point of keeping dh awake instead of my usual tiptoeing around him so he now KNOWS I don't do it intentionally! All of yesterday's lectures must have paid off because he didn't moan once grin. Slept for a few hours this morning so not feeling too grumpy. I'm waiting for loads of deliveries today from ebay etc - kinda expected most of them on monday but had no sign of postie for 2 days grr!!

I'm finding october is going very quickly but then I've made a point of making plans for every few days and every weekend and I'm trying to work as much as possible and see lots of people while I still can. November on the other hand will probably now drag. And if this baby has inherited the stubborn gene, the first 2 weeks of december will drag too!

VQ that sounds like the start of something to me! not that I would know! Glad you've got mw today. Keep us posted!!

GT hope all was okay xx

Daisy how exciting!! I was up at those times - and every hour in between too - so a teeny bit jealous you had a baby to keep you company! Fc you're home soon x

Iheartpasties Thu 11-Oct-12 10:12:50

izzy ha! I bet she turns up just as you sit down to relieve yourself!!

StuntNun Thu 11-Oct-12 10:27:03

According to the BabyCentre pregnancy weight gain estimator www.babycentre.co.uk/tools/weightgain/ I should expect to gain 25-35 lb during pregnancy. I'm currently on 24 lb weight gain with four weeks to go so I'm pretty happy that I'll be towards the lower end of that predicted weight gain, especially as my stomach is pretty squished at the minute.

Sainsburys have just delivered so that's my week's grocery shopping done. That counts as housework right? I did have to put it away.

Legs crossed VQ and hang on for your CS!

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Thu 11-Oct-12 10:40:02

iheart you were pretty close with your prediction! Will spare the details but just lucky she wasn't a minute earlier!

SwissArmyWife Thu 11-Oct-12 10:51:14

stunt that definitely counts as housework. Putting my shopping away wears me out!

VQ oooh typical eh? Let's hope he stays put until your section!

TMI -- anyone else have piles? I've got two of the buggers. Never had them before so a bit of a shock, any advice on keeping them at bay? Or does it mean baby is lower down now and they won't go away until i've given birth?!

DonnaDoon Thu 11-Oct-12 10:53:50

Hi guys Thankyou for all your lovely messages just skimmed through quick but will catch up properley later.....home today I would have been 37wks today....no special reason she came early....although I must admit that I do not put my feet up in pregnancy....anyway Illl update about the birth later....but baby is fine,feeding very well and Ive called her Darcey ( DarceyDoon LOL )

Iheartpasties Thu 11-Oct-12 10:54:15

I've got a beauty of a pile! I wack loads of cream on when I remember but honestly I dont think they go until after the birth.

izzy arf!!

And daisy its so exciting getting your updates, really lovely. best wishes to you and your new little one!

GTbaby Thu 11-Oct-12 10:58:40

Hello. Extremely tired. Started of falling asleep in a 4 bed room. Has 2 join. Had 1 leave. Then another join. So lots of lights on and off n noise.
They have checked heart beat again n say its good. But I'm so paranoid movement is less. A can feel him. But not as strong belly moving type kicks like before.

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 10:58:59

Would lots of fibre and fluid help the piles? Or are pregnancy piles different.

How lovely that you are getting home Donna.

Is there any truth that your baby is likely to come earlier if you got early movements? I am sure I read somewhere that there is a correlation. I think it is just wishful thinking as I got movements from 16 weeks. I will regret wishing this time away.

Are the exploding bottoms pregnancy related? Should I prepare for that?

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 11:00:31

Poor you GT. Fingers crossed all is well and you can get home and get some proper rest.

kirrinIsland Thu 11-Oct-12 11:08:31

Great that your heading home donna and Darcey is a lovely name smile

GT hope you are managing to get some sleep.

VQ keep us posted, sounds like things might be happening......

I have also put on just shy of 2 stone (half a stone more than last time already) but I don't seem to have put any on in the last few weeks -I thought this was the bit when we were supposed to pile it on? Not that I'm complaining mind!

Iheartpasties Thu 11-Oct-12 11:22:17

donnadoon lovely to hear from you - I cross posted with you (sorry!) love the name, one of my mums favorites.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 11:27:57

Explosive bums can indicate labour is looming, but does not mean it will happen imminently.

Appt 1pm. Have been scrubbing with bleach. DH thinks he should call NHS24 as I am clearly unwell. Cheeky bugger.

Car seat fits. Good.

Will let you know if anything exciting happens. After my initial abject fear, I am feeling a bit more philosophical about things. If he turns up early, there is nothing I can do about it. The fear is all to do with control. After my first birth experience I feel the need to be in control. Perhaps I have something to learn from this.

Iheartpasties Thu 11-Oct-12 11:28:39

My BIL has just been chatting with me via FB chat, I hardly ever in my life have chatted with him, but he was telling me he has uploaded some videos of him singing and playing the guitar and that he is going to do an open mike night at his local pub. Now I cannot bring myself to watch the videos as I just know they will be totally cringe-y smile

NervousAt20 Thu 11-Oct-12 11:42:19

Great to hear your going home today donna look forward to hearing your story when your up to it and have time grin

GT glad everything seems okay with baby, hopefully your home soon so can get some proper rest

I had something else to write but can't think for the life of me confused

WaitingForMe Thu 11-Oct-12 11:43:33

I've not been weighing myself as I'm sure I'm piling it on now [bush]

WaitingForMe Thu 11-Oct-12 11:44:21

blush even.

Iheartpasties Thu 11-Oct-12 11:46:45

No way am I weighing myself, no way!!

NervousAt20 Thu 11-Oct-12 11:55:45

I haven't either, I stopped around 23/24w I think when I hit a stone

horseylady Thu 11-Oct-12 12:14:43

Made the departments day by bringing in 100 samosas.


Wiggly baby today!! My mood is better (thankfully!!) but still think I could be pushed.

Donna lovely to hear from you!!

Afternoon everyone.

I've managed to avoid piles this time <touches wood manically>
As for weight, the midwife always weighs me and gives me the leaflet for the local maternity slimming group but actually she said I've not done too badly at all considering I was tiny before I fell preggers and my mobility is so restricted I can't exactly walk or swim or anything to keep fit, combined with the savage sickness that I still get every other day/night meaning I can only eat mainly carbs a bigger gain was always going to happen.

Luckily, I find loosing weight quite easy, keeping it off is a challenge but I'll tackle that at a later date.

I've just got rid of the last lot of clutter from the house, I'm done now, fully done! Got a couple of extra packs of maternity pads and breast pads for good measure. I'm not buying any more baby stuff at all now.

ComradeJing Thu 11-Oct-12 12:37:58

If I do the same as I did with DD I'll be back to my 16w weight (ie at my lightest from all the spewing and morning sickness) the day after I give birth but then will gain around 10 kg over the next 8 months as lack of sleep and crap diet slowly kills me.

Bloody sodding fire alarm went off today and I had to carry 22month dd (12kg++) down 23 flights of stairs. I was seriously concerned I was going to give birth then and there when I got to the bottom.

NervousAt20 Thu 11-Oct-12 12:41:57

horsey you would have made my day with 1 samosa, during this pregnancy I can't get enough of them with thick cut tomatoes. I never really liked either before hand though

MissMummy1 Thu 11-Oct-12 12:47:29

Unimpressed. Waiting for 8 parcels from eBay and one from Amazon. All ordered last week (Wednesday to Friday - can you tell I had an invoice paid last week?!). Postie's just been - first time this week - and brought ruddy junk mail. My theory they keep all my parcels and deliver them in one go is being proven right now... Wouldn't normally mind but a few bits and pieces are dh's birthday presents and I want them to come before he goes onto leave and is moping around the house all day while I'm at work. Grr.

Lovely to hear from you and lovely name donna - I know an adorable little Darcey!

I had put on about 3st last time I stood on the scales shock - avoiding them at all costs now!!!

MissMummy1 Thu 11-Oct-12 12:48:40

and a huge bargainous bundle of maternity/breastfeeding tops that might just end in our divorce if he finds I've bought more clothes grin

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 12:51:05

comrade23? That's ridiculous.

I never had piles until I gave birth to DS they have been a pain this pregancy.

I have a constant period pain, just constant, it really is uncomfortable. I want to cry. I daren't cry because DH is here and he will say I shouldn't drive to Brum to pick up the girls tomorrow but I am desperate to see them as the have been with their dad for two weeks and I miss them. I also don't want him to think he might might to cancel NOrthern Irelnad as if he doesn't go DS won't see his nanny till chrimbo and DH has lots of house meetings to have.

Maybe I will go and hide.

stunt thanks for the weather report! I have packed for DS accordingly, though I have put a hat in as Nanny's generally think grandsons should have one more layer on than is required in reality. I don't want her to think I don't take care of her boys properly.

Had my consultant appointment this morning with scan and review, scan was all fine, baby measuring perfect for gestation 34+4 weeks (even with my small bump wink ) Sonographer still couldn't be 100% sure of girl, although she said she saw something that looked like girly bits...
Saw registrar afterwards, think my consultant was busy. He hadn't bothered reading my notes so was a bit insensitive... hmm But most importantly, I was released to midwife led care and got the go ahead for a home birth smile very very pleased!
Now still trying to sort out the silly whooping cough vaccine with my doctor's surgery... Apparently I could have had it on Monday with my flu jab... That's not what the nurse said that actually gave me the jab... ah well, they're ringing me back about it...

LittleLolly Thu 11-Oct-12 13:07:14

donna I love the name Darcey, very pretty. Glad you are getting to go home. I'm looking forward to hearing some birth stories when you ladies have time!

I went to an active birth class yesterday, bought some nursing bras, put the bedside crib up and am now completely ready for this baby to arrive. So I am sure it will be another 4 weeks!!

When do they induce you? Is it 42 weeks or less?

horseylady Thu 11-Oct-12 13:16:49

Work has just given me loads of presents and flowers!! I've done well not to cry!!

StuntNun Thu 11-Oct-12 13:24:55

Lolly I think it's usually ten days over unless there's a compelling reason but it probably depends on your consultant (and space at the hospital as well).

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 13:38:17

Quick update- MW thinks early labour, but equally boy may settle down and wait two weeks. I need to go in if waters break, or if I start getting regular contractions 30 minutes apart or less. They would then just section me as soon as there was a free theatre. Happy with that.

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 13:43:04

Oo * vq* you may be next!

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 13:47:03

I am doing my best not to, honest. GT will be next, then Catbag should be!!! What are you doing woman? I so feel for you, with two little cherubs on board x

NervousAt20 Thu 11-Oct-12 13:47:25

Oo exciting valium how are you feeling?

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 13:52:57

Varies on hospital policy Lolly if it is just for being 'overdue' then some hospitals go with T+10, some T+12 and some T+14. Your community midwife will know if you ask her.

I think I have woke on the wrong side of the bed today!! Started off great - I managed a full nights sleep, minus waking a few times, but was actually able to go straight back asleep. I didn't get up to wee once grin so when I finally surfaced at 11am, I had managed 11 hours without a wee! Woohoo!

It all went down hill after that though sad DP had promised me that this morning after taking DS to school he would clean up and make sure the house was presentable, as I have a midwife coming this afternoon. Also I start nights tonight so didn't want to be up too early doing it all myself and thus be knackered for work tonight.

DP has as far as I can see done very little in the way of cleaning up. He did the one thing I asked him to do this morning, but nothing that I asked him to do last night before I went to bed. Even the big pot of soup I made yesterday, and left for him to decant in to tubs once it had cooled was still left in the same pot, on top of the cooker angry. Complete waste - it had milk in it as it was a chowder.

And I know exactly what he was doing this morning, he was playing computer games. I'm seriously annoyed, but if I start having a go it is only going to make me feel worse (and it shouldn't require me having a hissy fit for him to do it!). I'm breaking my back carrying on working full time, and he is still working part time, is not pregnant, and is not reliably doing what needs to be done! He pulls his finger out and does it, but then lapses back to sloth mode for a couple of days.

I am also sat here, in a thin dressing gown, pouring in sweat. The heating is not on. URGHHHHHH. I might have to have a cold shower in a minute!

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 13:53:53

VQ grin

It's all I'm saying...!

blonderthanred Thu 11-Oct-12 13:58:39

Oh wow VQ that's exciting. Keep us updated.

I've just been to Babies R Us to buy something bargainous that I'd seen online, except then I bought loads of other stuff. Most of it was already on the list so it's not a huge problem but I was quite shock when the total came up.

Got lots of Amazon and other parcels arriving, including DH's birthday present hurrah - his birthday was the same day as my original due date but will now fall a couple of weeks after the birth. Glad to have that organised.

Oh and the mw just popped round with the TENS machine she is lending me. The house is a tip: mostly it's bags of baby stuff but also we have 2 double mattresses in the hallway that we need to dispose of - classy.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 14:00:03

Thank you for that detective.

lol Id be dying to get the baby out vq I wish I could have her now!

Had a v greasy fry up for lunch which has flushed out my system wink belly goes hard alot nowadays, Ive been having BHs since about 20 weeks but seems to be more frequent now.

My lovely bag from Asos should be coming either today or tomorrow, cant wait grin

GTbaby Thu 11-Oct-12 14:42:43

Still waiting for dr. They r monitoring me again. Baby sleeping. So drank cold water. MW thinks they will induce earlier, but they have 3 women waiting already so not likely to b today. Hope they let me go home sad I wana NEED to have my eye brows done! N I didn't buy nursing bras. Spent spare time yesterday buying a camcorder! Put together the crib together. N then went out for anniversary meal.

So bored sad can't concentrate to read

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 14:44:20

Oh for actual fucks sake! It really only could happen to me....!!

Was expecting community midwife between 4-5pm as agreed because of the night shifts. Sat here as described above, in a thin dressing gown, sweating ones bollocks off. (If one had bollocks). Unshowered, unbrushed hair... not even brushed teeth yet! When there was a knock at the door.

Yup, midwife there. Let her in, and run up the stairs to throw clothes on, when my laptop starts belting out 'POUR SOME SUGAR ON MEEEEEEEEEEEEE' bit o' Def Leopard while I'm hopping around with one foot in a pair of leggings.

Then the dog started barking, and knocked the ironing board over in the kitchen.

I'm still running around trying to put clothes on, and the midwife is calling up the stairs asking if I'm ok!! ARRRGHHHHHH!

Anyway, check was fine. Baby has had a growth spurt grin and has gone from 32cm last week to 35cm this week grin

Hahahahahahahaha (if I don't laugh I'd cry!)

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 14:44:26

Hope you get to go home gt

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 14:45:17

VQ, it will be fine. I am sure he is just giving you the run around smile

Hows things now?!

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 14:46:32

Oh, and forgot to add, head is fixed at brim of pelvis. smile Explains the pain! Birthing bastard ball did the job clearly!

Elizadoesdolittle Thu 11-Oct-12 14:46:42

Glad you are home donna things always seem much better and easier when you're in your own environment.

I'm just back from having my wc jab and she did flu at same time. I can cancel my flu jab appointment which is handy. Went for a second viewing on a house and I think we may put an offer in. Going to be quite a cheeky one so I don't think it will be accepted but its a start.

Am very tired now so once I've done a few household chores I think I'll put cbeebies on for DD and have a rest.

Good luck vq but if you aren't ready for baby to come yet I hope it stays put for a bit longer.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 15:06:29

I am ok now thank you ladies. Feeling a bit more accepting of things. Still getting pains but at top of bump now and back is a bit better now. What will be will be. I would like it if he came early tbh but he will come when he is ready, or in 14 sleeps.

detective you made me laugh. It could only happen to you!

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 15:09:22

Have you taken some analgesia? Make sure DH is running around after you. Rest woman!

Mmm, and yes, can only happen to me hmm. Today can only get better? Right? RIGHT?!!!

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 15:30:43

Glad you are feeling ok VQ.

detective that mental image really made me laugh.

I feel completely wabbit today. Don't know what's wrong with me.

Flowers and pressies are lovely horsey

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 15:35:13

Wabbit?? confused What is this!

I've just recalled someone had a dream about my birth pool last night... off to see who is was.... and sorry!!!!!

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 15:37:45

Sophia It was you!! Haha!! I do apologise - I hope it wasn't a strange dream (stranger than dreaming about a birth pool anyway!)

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 15:50:33

Wabbit is a word for a bit lacking in energy and a touch fed up. Generally a bit meh.

It's a word used in parts on Scotland.

Currently watching Flash Forward on Love Film

Brockle Thu 11-Oct-12 16:04:06

Fingers crossed your DS decides to stay put for a while VQ but at least you have a bit of a warning that he may decide to pop out a bit early.

I think you have described me perfectly pass as that is exactly how I feel. Spent the afternoon snoozing whilst watching X men. Michael Fassbender and James McAvoy in the same movie is film heaven for the Brockle.

MW and consultant can't decide whether DS3 is breach or not. Hopefully should have an anwer at 36 weeks. Until then I shall be bouncing on the gym ball and trying some spinning babies techniques just in case smile

horseylady Thu 11-Oct-12 16:04:15

Detective - you could have been chain smoking....

Yes very lovely!! I feel very lucky!! Will take a photo I think!!

TiAAAAARGHo Thu 11-Oct-12 16:07:07

Ooooooo VQ! smile

Excitement for me today is that my TENS machine arrived grin. I might test it a bit on DH...

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 16:11:34

detective it was me! Was a weird night confused

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 16:12:44

I dunno, might have been a nicer site than me sweating past myself avec tits hanging out hmm grin

I now have another reason to moan at DP. Due to his procrastination his car insurance has gone up by £76 for the year because he didn't take it out last week when I told him to do it... He still hasnt done it, I just did it for him because it is due on Tuesday....

MissMummy1 Thu 11-Oct-12 16:17:37

Left my phone and laptop upstairs in my office. Totally forgot I was bidding on some lovely bundles of next baby clothes, got distracted and was outbid by 50p on each one. Arghh! So annoyed with myself!!

Ucky yucky pissy rainy day here. Trying to summon the energy to go and get ready for meeting a client this evening. Totally cba. Might suggest skyping from now on (although I'd probably still have to get out of my jammies!) I'm doing 3 hrs a week tutoring now and down to 5 hrs contact time with my other clients and the rest of the time I can get away with nesting and timewasting working from home, so I really have nothing to complain about sad.

MissMummy1 Thu 11-Oct-12 16:21:56

Detective men are useless! I am now in control of all paperworky adminy things relating to the cars/house as he is a nightmare for putting it off and costing us money. and I'm an over-organised control freak. Car insurance and tax up on the landrover at the end of the month and mot expires next month so his only responsibility is to get it sold/scrapped. He's had since august. No doubt I will end up having to deal with that too! Damned if we're forking out any money to keep it - right now I would PAY someone to take it away!!!

NervousAt20 Thu 11-Oct-12 16:44:54

Popped to tesco and there's a Halloween display with a real coffin in it shock I think it's terrible to have in the middle of tesco

GTbaby Thu 11-Oct-12 16:57:47

Just had a growth scan. All good. 7.5lbs! That's a big baby for 37 weeks. blush being sent home but need daily monitoring. Least I can go home n have a nice shower. Ill have to do my own eye brows sad. N legs will have to stay hairy without a wax. But my bits hurt to much for that!

ShellyBobbs Thu 11-Oct-12 17:03:53

Lovely to hear from you Donna

I'm hoping to go for eyebrow/ bikini wax at about 37/ 38 weeks. Really hope I make it I haven't seen my lady bits in months, caught sight in the mirror earlier while wearing pants and could see way too much hair for my liking!

kirrinIsland Thu 11-Oct-12 17:17:13

I've got an eyebrow wax, eyelash tint and haircut booked for 38 weeks. I know I should also have a bikini wax but I am a wuss and I'm not sure I can face it.

GT that is anreally good weight for 37 weeks. Glad you're being allowed home - enjoy your shower!

nervous I agree, there is something very wrong about that sad

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 17:22:21

I don't think I could ever allow wax down there... I by down there, I mean anywhere! Big wimp!

I'll just veet, soon as my nights are over and done!

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 17:23:02

DS isn't talking to me hmm because he got 6/20 in his spellings. And I dared to ask him why....

I think the hormones are catching!

Ins trained beauty therapist and even I don't allow wax near my bits, I've seen things go very wrong during bikini waxing <shudder>

horseylady Thu 11-Oct-12 17:37:16

Is everyone waxing?!!! I've never had bikini wax before!! Should I have one??!! Going to get hair done next week I think. I can still shave (ish) that area!! Would they find it odd to do a pregnant lady?! I realise how odd this sounds lol but is it the done thing!!

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 17:43:13

I have booked in in for bikini and full leg wax at 38 1/2 weeks. If only to stop feeling lazy about not doing it while I wait for the hair to grow long enough.

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 17:48:54

I'm either trimming or veeting. Only because I used to work with one of the community midwives grin and knowing my luck, she'll be the one who comes out when I'm in labour!

Anyway, i'll deal with it on tuesday, and inspect what needs fixing!

I do have a good veet twice a year usually, and trim in between, but after having my pubes pulled this afternoon, I definitely don't want a repeat of that.... I forgot to mention that bit, didn't I?!

LittleLolly Thu 11-Oct-12 17:51:04

I usually wax every 4-6 weeks. Went from 20 to 35 weeks with nothing and then she had a forest to deal with, oops. Booked in again at 39 weeks. He will probably come the day before! I usually have a Brazilian but just having a 'neaten around the edges' as cant face the pain!

I'm fairly sure the midwives and doctors could not care less about our fanjo hair... Maybe they would raise their eyebrows at a vajazzle though! Haha

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 17:54:50

I am sure they get a lot of pregnant ladies getting waxes. I am sure a lot of ladies only have it done when pg, as at other times they can manage to keep things tidy themselves.

MissMummy1 Thu 11-Oct-12 17:55:27

I'm debating booking a wax about 38 weeks. Going to get my hair and toenails done that week so might as well spoil (if you can call it that?!) myself!

horseylady Thu 11-Oct-12 17:56:57

Oh ok perhaps I'll book in then? Shaved it last night so will need to go end of next week then?!

It's very traumatic all of this!!

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 17:58:42

I can't remember noticing what the picture frame looks like grin.

Except one time.

But we won't go there!

But it really doesn't matter! It is only for my benefit I am sorting the jungle out!

We used to get a lot of pregnant ladies booking in for a leg/bikini wax and a pedicure at about 38 weeks. I am a wave a razor in the general area type of lady myself although I'd get shot in the salon if I said that but in my defence, I have sensitive skin beyond anything you can imagine so waxing is a no no for me.
I'm sure midwives don't carry around a spread sheet or hold a "lady garden of the week" awards ceremony so I'm not too bothered about a bit of untidiness down there. grin

Cacacaz Thu 11-Oct-12 18:03:08

I have been a lazy git today, still sitting in my pjs, didn't get up until after 11am! In saying that I have defrosted the freezer, so that is one more job ticked off my to do list and there is now plenty room for me to stock up with food. Tomorrow I am planning on cleaning the windows inside.

Our pram arrived yesterday, I couldn't wait for Dh to come home from work so built it and pushed it around the house for a good half hour I absolutely love it.

Donna Darcey is a gorgeous name

Gt I, glad you are able to get home for a few days before your induction

VQ take it easy for the time being

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 18:06:50

My poor midwife will be lucky if I have trimmed toenails!

I have never had a wax other than my eyebrows. I will shave my legs as normal. I never touch fanjo hair - never have.

My goodness what a lazy day! I had a nap earlier for about 40 minutes then fell asleep again watching ghost busters. I do feel a bit better now. DH is now cooking tea which I said I would make. Mind you I think I might take over in a minute.

Got my hospital bag packed today. I needed to use the free boots bag for baby things as there isn't enough room in the one I have. For a person who is hoping to be home within hours I am certainly taking plenty.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 18:07:06

'spread sheet' <<snigger>>

I am not taking it easy. I am carrying on as usual. My toilets are so clean you could eat a dominos off them.

Cacacaz Thu 11-Oct-12 18:07:13

Oh almost forgot, I get my vagine waxed but the therapist that does mine uses hot wax rather than strips -- there is no way anyone would get near me with strip wax, its far too painful-- seriously ladies hot wax is the way forward!

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 18:08:17

They will probably call me Rapunzel on the post natal ward.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 18:09:07

'vagine' is that the French spelling or something?

StuntNun Thu 11-Oct-12 18:13:27

I must be really weird as my pubic area is entirely 'au naturel'. I tried Veet on my legs once but it didn't do anything at all apart from make my skin a bit red so I never used it again. I fear pain too much for a wax of any part of my body. My leg hair has been growing so slowly that one shave a week is keeping my pins in order; oxters (or armpits if you're a sassenach) are done daily. I'm not a very hairy person generally so I tend to leave my eyebrows alone as well. Oh well the midwife will just have to put up with it. I'm sure try see all sorts with piercings, tattoos, the works.

I have had an awful time with the kids today. The little bastards angels got 'lost' in the toy aisle of Tescos and I was wandering around the shop in increasing pelvic pain (damn trolley) looking and calling for them. I had to get them paged by customer services in the end. Anyway after a case of the screaming heeby jeebies I am in bed trying to relax while DH makes his famous 'call to the Chinese takeaway' for dinner. Can barbecue spare ribs cure all ills? And why oh why did I think it would be a good idea to have another little horror angel? Seriously my DS1 is nine going in four, he can be a right handful. DS2 is an adorable well-behaved little darling (most of the time).

Sorry about the whingey post. It was a rough day today between the kids, Braxton Hicks and the ol' pelvis. Chinese takeaway and a bath might do the trick. Wish I could have a bottle glass of wine as well.

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 18:16:17

Well, VQ you and me both. I'm certainly not starting beauty treatments now when I have never had them.

I might get my eyebrows waxed but that will be it. I feel very slutty in comparison to all you chic ladies! Having said that I was wondering bout packing a mascara as I am rarely seen without it.

I am actually due a hair cut the same week of my due date. I don't know wether to move it forward or back. Maybe an appointment a couple of weeks after the baby is born would make me feel nice.

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 18:17:56

To be honest, midwives are just grateful that you've had a wash. At some point in the last year grin

horseylady Thu 11-Oct-12 18:18:15

Oh maybe I'll just leave it then? I do feel quite traumatised at the thought of being waxed. My legs hurt enough!!

Stunt sorry you've had a bad day sad hopefully BBQ ribs will help!!!

Right need to get ready for last nct class.

Oh I spoke to the chef, said sorry for losing my temper (which I am) he was fine. It's very wet here today!!

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 18:22:58

Sounds rubbish stunt. Spare ribs should surely go some way to helping. I would also be having a wee wine as well. What chat have you given your eldest? Is there a reason for the misbehaviour - sorry if you have mentioned already. Either way, I hope you can chill this evening.

georgee Thu 11-Oct-12 18:29:45

Another au naturel one here. Might use some nail scissors to get rid of the worst (that's the stuff you could comb!) at the front (if I can pull it outwards and get a pair of scissors behind it) but then again I might not. Five days ago my hair 'product' ran out. I've half-heartedly tried to get some more but TBH I'm quite liking the unstructured look (I'm talking about my head hair now BTW!). Although DH came from work the other day and called me 'Shaun Ryder'. Hm.

Limpit80 Thu 11-Oct-12 18:32:39

Oh my gosh! Another new thread! I cant keep up! Congrats to those who have their little ones already - so exciting!

I cant imagine anything worse than getting waxed at the moment, I cant even see my lady parts, so the hair is probably ridiculously long. Will defo dust off the bikini trimmers before the big day!

Have had a really disappointing day. OH and I took the afternoon off work to attend an NHS antenatal class and it was so terrible, Im not going back for the next 2 sessions as its a complete waste of time. The midwife was rude and uninterested and didnt even smile for the first half an hour. She arrived late, didnt apologise, sat there in silence for 5 mins and then said 'should I get started or wait for more people to turn up? (there were 2 couples and 1 lady by herself). I said 'how many more are we waiting for?' and she said: 'I dont know'! When she finally got started,she basically read through the session notes and after half an hour (the session was supposed to be 2)said, 'well have we covered everything or is there anything else you want to know?' ! The whole session was terrible, she spent most of it sighing with her face in her hands and asking vague questions to the room without actually addressing anyone. TBH the whole thing has put me off having the baby in that hospital. Was perfectly happy to before.

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 18:32:47

tits don't be giving detective ideas for running lad garden of the week comps!

Yes def opt for hot wax it's much less painful, also give it a trim with nail scissors before you go, short hair is a lot less painful to be ripped out than long hair!

I'll go at 37ish weeks as ds came early I don't want to take any chances, ill prob be late now and still have too much growth!

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 18:35:05

Obviously I meant lady.

kissyfur Thu 11-Oct-12 18:36:22

Evening ladies,

Sounds like its been an eventful day!? How you feeling vq?

I've been to the day unit today as baby wasn't moving at all this morning, typically started moving as soon as I got in the car to the hospital, but they monitored baby for 45 mins and everything was fine, did give me abit of a scare tho! Also at 34+3 I'm measuring 37, think this baby is going to be a whopper!

Don't think I could handle the pain of a bikini wax whilst pg! Do need to do something about my lady garden tho as its starting to resemble a jungle! Can't see past the bump tho unfortunately.

I've got permission from little who lost little Daisy back in June, to share the good news that she's expecting a sibling for Daisy in June next year. smile

kissyfur Thu 11-Oct-12 18:43:58

Aww that's lovely news tink big congratulations to little x

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 18:45:26

Awwww, such lovely news! Congratulations Little smile

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 18:51:04

Oh good x I think of little Daisy often. do pass on our congratulations and well wishes x

YellowWellies Thu 11-Oct-12 19:16:47

VQ and Pass I'm another CBA... I might wave a razor in the general direction but m'eh call me existentialist but I figure if I can't see the hair then it's not actually there grin. I think given we've got pretty good odds of shitting ourselves during labour - fanjo fluff is the least of my worries.

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 19:17:10

Aw tink that is fantastic news for them. I too, often think about little Daisy.

YellowWellies Thu 11-Oct-12 19:20:54

Oh tink that's such lovely news. Pass on lots of love to little

Oh VQ <<big national lottery hand>> 'it could be YOU next' eh? Come on team Catbag!!!!

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 19:22:27

Ah yellow you are a lady after my own heart.

Congrats to little fab news!

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 19:32:20

I'm off to get ready for work.

My last 4 shifts til next April.

I still don't wanna go though! It's dark outside!!!!

rowingdowntheriver Thu 11-Oct-12 19:33:00

Ah, congratulations little.

Talking about waxing, I don't normally bother but feel a bit more comfortable with tidy lady bits when there will be a few people rooting around down there.

I booked in for a full leg and bikini wax last week but they couldn't do my legs as my hair wasn't long enough so I've to go back next week. My hair has been growing so slowly since I got upduffed.

My bikini line on the other hand was a different matter. They had to get the scissors out to give it a pre-wax trim blush.

TheDetective Thu 11-Oct-12 19:36:35

Oh bollocks, just realised I'm on labour ward tonight. Not ideal, as walking is a bit, um, sore still. I could do with being somewhere not too high risk! D'oh!

Oh well!

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 19:37:11

Hello VQ are you out there? Are you ok?

kirrinIsland Thu 11-Oct-12 19:37:19

Congratulations to little - that's great news smile

I tried trimming with nail scissors the other day, with only a mirror as my guide, and I have to say, it was slightly scary! I couldn't quite coordinate the mirror image and got a bit worried i'd cut more than just hair so I abandoned my attempts and will crack open the veet a bit nearer to d-day!

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 19:37:57

Oh, I see you.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 19:54:47

<<slight paranoia that sophia can see me>>

StuntNun Thu 11-Oct-12 19:58:42

Great news about Little that was fast work to get preggers so quickly.

Pass my (head) hair has got noticeably thicker so I'm going to wait until after the birth to get it cut to make me feel better when all the extra hair starts coming out again.

We had duck and pancakes instead of spare ribs and the boys went crazy for them. We'll have to get two lots next time. I feel very indulgent for having a takeaway on a school night! The pork chops can go in the freezer. grin

My DS1 has ADHD and Aspergers which is why he gives me all the trouble. If this next one has ADHD as well I'm going to ask for a refund! wink It's a 1 in 4 chance of ADHD, 1 in 5 of autism but there's no point fretting about it, just have to wait and see. At least if we have another child with special needs we know what we're doing this time. DS1 was diagnosed with ADHD at 5 and Aspergers at 8. Before the diagnosis we thought all kids were like that, the inlaws assumed it was because we were bad parents! Once you have a diagnosis it shines a light on the past and you realise how much behaviour was due to the disorder. For example DS1 couldn't stand to be pushed around in the pushchair and would cry the whole time he was in it. Now we know he was crying because he wasn't getting enough stimulation but at the time it drove me round the bend.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 20:01:16

Perhaps it is a 'north of the border' thing, due to it being colder?

I am sure detective is right that they are just grateful if it is clean <<considers purple rinse and curlers>>

I am doing fine tonight. Half a dozen gripping-the-nearest-thing-to-stay-upright contractions, but nothing sustained. One thing I am not worried about is things developing fast, as my cervix don't open for no bugger!

Car seat ready, Moses basket ready, both bags packed, showered and hair wash had, blow job given (pretty spectacular one too I must say) so having a low alcohol beer, and chocolate, whilst watching series 5 of Dexter (hence BJ). Good times!

Aww Tinks Congrats to Little on the fab news thanks

WRT waxing, I might give the long bits a trim but that's the most effort i'm making.

DH is watching Friends and it's pissing me off. It's the one where Rachel goes in to labour and it's just annoying. They snog and her water breaks so they just get up and go straight to hospital, no contractions nothing. She doesn't even have a wet skirt and she doesn't change her skirt or pants. Then when they get to hospital (in 7 minutes!!) all the gang arrive, she's had like what two contractions and they're all there at the hospital confused
Just been ranting away to DH, i'm guessing he thinks i'm mad although he did comment on her remarkably dry tight skirt, probably just to placate me grin

i've had another day of being uncomfortable at work but only 5 more to go, and they involve a 11am, a 11:30am, a 1pm and 2 3pm finishes so not too bad really

ShellyBobbs Thu 11-Oct-12 20:12:40

Have you gone mad VQ? Blow job whilst having contractions?! Can't remember the last time I wanted anything that bad grin

VQ i'm admiring the effort with the blow job!!
Unless you're meaning a hairdryer 'blow job' after the hair wash, then i'm slightly less impressed grin

ShellyBobbs Thu 11-Oct-12 20:13:54

Wonderful news for Little I am very pleased and wish her all the luck in the world, she certainly deserves it! For you little, congratulations thanks

YellowWellies Thu 11-Oct-12 20:21:27

VQ DH now thinks that spectacular oral sex is an essential part of early labour... his eyes nearly popped out at that post shock

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 20:22:29

No, I do mean BJ of the intimate kind shock grin I now have a very happy husband. He is likely to be on bread and water for some time.

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 20:24:15

It was pretty spectacular! We rarely have a day off together without the weans.

Is it his birthday?! confusedgrin

YellowWellies Thu 11-Oct-12 20:24:49

btw VQ lots and lots of luck to you if things do happen before your scheduled section. You'll be amazing hen!!!

Had some lovely parcels waiting for me, I won £125 of Mamas and Papas nursing jamas, tops and robe on Ebay for £25 from a lady who wore them twice before giving up on BFing. Who on earth would pay £125?!!!! Well am glad someone did, despite my fluffy bits and potential for bowel accidents in labour - at least I'll have some posh jammies to change into when I feel like a car wreck after and attempt to face visitors. wink

blonderthanred Thu 11-Oct-12 20:25:03

I saw the news about Little, so lovely to read. Wishing her lots of love.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 11-Oct-12 20:28:42

<roars at VQ's casual mention of blow job in list of things done>

Congrats to little

Good day today, MW apt was actually helpful blush that I had said it would be pointless as section had been agreed. Loads of info about what will happen and reassurance about how different it will be to my EMCS. Also possible I will only have to spend one night in hospital - trying not to cling to that too much.

Last day at work tomorrow. Mixed emotions.

And grooming - am so au naturel that if I ever shave my legs DH asks who I'm trying to pull! I do just about manage to keep my armpits shaved, but legs and fanjo are pretty much left alone. Fortunately am not too hairy, but <snigger> at idea of midwife compiled spreadsheet on grooming. I'd get a very low score!

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 20:29:11

Lol vq, luckily I didn't see that!

I having been substituting DTD for that, makes me feel justified in withholding!

If I am trying to make the baby flip rfrom ROA to LOA ( it was LOAand it flipped last week the bugger) do I have to sit on/bend over the ball ALL the time? It is quite tiring.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 11-Oct-12 20:31:20

Now feeling like the pity shags I've been throwing DH's way this pregnancy are a bit below par. Perhaps a little more effort could be made.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Thu 11-Oct-12 20:36:09

Will go catch up soon but just popping in to say Just escaped from hospital. Baby hadn't been moving as much as normal and HB was high so referred up for monitoring. 3 hours later we escaped only after me ending up with an ECG as my heartrate was up at 125. Babys heartrate has come down and the ctg is ok so we were allowed to leave and call if any problems. My only concern is why is my heartrate up and as movements still less how do I know when to call??

YellowWellies Thu 11-Oct-12 20:36:36

Sophia make sure you're sleeping on your left side - that's about the most effective way of getting them into the right position. It might not happen though. This wee one alternates between ROA and LOA and sitting right in the middle. MW doesn't seem concerned as they can move from ROA to LOA themselves even to quite a late stage unlike say, moving from breech which becomes more tricksy from 34 weeks onwards - I think. Detective would know - please clarify if I'm talking shite.

blonderthanred Thu 11-Oct-12 20:38:22

I had a vague go with the razor in the shower the other morning. I am not a waxer but try to keep things tidy and I feel a bit wildernessy at the moment.

Ashamed to admit it is some time since I have had carnal knowledge of my husband (despite feeling quite up for it, I just kept panicking something would go wrong or I'd have a bleed). I told him we have to start having sex in advance of the induction to get the hormones going, I just hope we haven't forgotten how!

YellowWellies Thu 11-Oct-12 20:41:05

I'm shattered and off to bed in my new posh PJs <<twirls like the hippopotomousse hippos from the 80s TV ad...>> sod birthing books I have a good Scandinavian crime novel to try to read whilst I have a semblance of IQ / any spare time. lets not mention the fact that I've read the entire Jo Nesbo series out of order due to brain damage from pregnancy so it's not entirely making sense as I'm reading the first book third whoopsy!!!

Night night lovelies. May the sandman come and kick the preggo insomnia fairy in the nutsack and may we all sleep. Now other than catbag can we all try not to have any babies until tomorrow? xxx

I'm thinking the same as YW. Mine seems to flip from ROA to LOA daily

I shall admit now to never having given DP a BJ blush we'd only known each other a couple of months when I fell pregnant blush and I have no wish to do it while I'm carrying the squidgelet. We were having regular sex until about a month ago when it stopped because I'm in so much pain in my vagine and DP is <ehem> somewhat blessed in that area anyway so doing it now may actually put me off for life! grin

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 11-Oct-12 20:49:03

Thank yw. I shall try to sty on my left tonight I tend to flip too!

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 20:49:48

Not his birthday. He bought me a Dexter DVD. I love Dexter and was thinking about Dexter

ValiumQueen Thu 11-Oct-12 20:51:53

Another vagine what is a vagine ?

I remember an amusing thread about a vagine where some one had typoed, will see if I can find it

I remember that thread too, was hilarious!

here Typo combined with name changed fail

YellowWellies Thu 11-Oct-12 21:09:19

Well Fatima if pissing myself laughing at that thread doesn't bring on prem labour I have no idea what will!!! <<wipes eyes>> DH is now slightly shocked about how coarse we preggo ladies can be! (but pissed himself too)

I've just lol'd at "My minge resembles David Bellamy shouting "WOW""

Passmethecrisps Thu 11-Oct-12 21:37:32


Yellow the books were actually translated out of order anyway so nae worries. I am on the Redeemer havig started on Nemesis then on to Devil Star. I think The Bat is actually the first but has only just been translated.

All I read anymore is crime fiction. The next Ian Rankin is published the day after my due date - not sure if that is perfect timing or horrendous

MissMummy1 Thu 11-Oct-12 21:44:20

YW I think you outbid me on the m&p jammies <glares> very jealous - they looked lovely and I'm sure you look gorgeous in them!

I've made up for my outbidded next baby clothes by buying several a couple of bundles of neutral outfits and sleepsuits. Safe to say we need no more newborn or 0-3month baby clothes!!!

Lovely clients tonight. They gave me cake and offered to baby sit when I go back to work for them a couple of hours a week in January. I like them grin.

Lovely news about little - so happy for her!

So so pleased for little smile I can't even begin to imagine what she has been through. Wishing her a healthy pregnancy.

VQ It has been so long I don't think my DP even remembers what a BJ is.

Izzy Sounds very scary, hope you are ok x

Madam it's also my last day at work tomorrow and I have mixed emotions like you. Don't think I'll miss the job itself but will miss some of my colleagues and the structure it gives me. I like routine. I think my team are going out to lunch and they've got me a present but don't know what. I hope they don't give it to me in front of the whole office, I hate things like that.

I was coming home from Sainsburys tonight after getting some cakes and snacks for tomorrow when this arsehole in a transit van was practically on my bumper behind me. I was doing the speed limit and he was so close to me I was scared he was going to hit me. He was flashing his lights, gesturing at me and going mental. I got home and was really shaken up by it. Called the police and reported him but apparently they only pay a visit to people in circumstances like this when there are two independent witnesses as they just don't have the resources to respond to them all.

I called my mum and she was furious. She left a message for the police sergeant to call her back which he did. She had to play on the fact that I'm 8 months pregnant and very upset and they agreed to send someone round to speak to him tonight. I am genuinely concerned the knob will cause an accident. I see bad drivers every single day but this is the first time I've ever reported anyone. Hopefully he will get a shock when he has a knock on the door and will think twice next time.

GTbaby Thu 11-Oct-12 23:34:42

Apple bad drivers can really cause serious accidents. I'm shocked at how stupid ppl can be sometimes!

Something I learnt in my small stay at hospital... Pillow is essential not a 'would like' product.

Also take distractions with That reqyire no brain power. My kindle was no good as I couldn't concentrate sad.

And finally for all u who have salon appointments at 38 weeks. Keep tweezers with u to sort out brows at very least just in case. All I kept thinking at hospital was my first pics with baby would b ugly due to over growth. I mean the leg wax etc is a want. But neat brows is a must!

Having some nice uncomfortable kicks ATM grin have missed them and won't b telling him to stop being naughty in there any more. grin

Izzy I have same concerns as u. Reduced movements have been checked n so how can u tell if something is wrong now. I've been going with time between movement. Even small movements. N wen it is hitting an hour since last movement I have a cold drink or lay on left side (which is when my fraggle is most envyactive) Keep in mind I've only been doing this since I got bk from hospital at 5 ish. I'm sure it would b hard to maintain over a few days. I'm also sitting in positions were I know he moves more (with legs up on sofa so tummy is slightly squashed blush). Anyway. I'm sure ull notice an increase in movement soon.

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 01:35:36

I am so so so so so uncomfortable.

Why the frig am I even in here. I dont think I can do this.

Head of midwifery coming in in a minute to work with me... That'll be interesting. I'm not sure the last time she worked on the wards shock

I just want to go home sad

Iheartpasties Fri 12-Oct-12 03:19:29

comradeJing hi, I think I saw from a different thread that you are also Down Under smile I’m in Manly.

bluetinkerbell lovely news that you can have your home birth, I am quite jealous of the home birth ladies as that is not offered over here (unless you have a private midwife, and I can’t justify the money really). My first was an un-planned home birth though so that was pretty special.

I woke with a start last night and jumped up and out of bed because I had sick coming up my throat, nice that DH didn’t even wake up. He gets on my wick. He didn’t even wake up when I was in labour last time even though I got in and out of bed at a least 5 times – ignoramus.

A real coffin in tesco?? WTAF?

I’m glad you got to go home GTbaby and your baby sounds like it is really good size, great!

Things going wrong during a bikini wax tits? <<shudder>>

georgee my dh would have had a smack if he called me shaun ryder!!
Cheeky git!!

limpit80 your antenatal class sounded crap, can you complain to someone?

Lovely news for little (made me a bit teary).

izzy fingers crossed for you – you are not making a nuisance of yourself if you ring a midwife just remember that, everyone will be happy to give you the all clear rather than let you worry over something.

pikz Fri 12-Oct-12 05:11:18

Insomnia getting to me now...would just like a full nights sleep. Worried about making mistakes at work as so tired sad roll on this time next week! Am definitely ready to finish now.

Wooo last Friday at work!! And I'm only working 7ish till 11 then midwife

Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 12-Oct-12 06:37:31

Morning all. Really gt you think the pillow is worth it. I can't remember from last time. Maybe I will leave one in the car and if I am going to be in for a stay like with DS as DH to bring it in.

Hoping you are doing okvq

mm yw I Have to say, IMO M & P nightwear is the best, I had some with DD1 and I have bought a nightie this time in the sale. I feel lush in mine.

apple I would be a mess if that happened to me. Big up your mum. I nope you feel ok about it today.


Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 12-Oct-12 06:38:10

Have a great last day fatima

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 06:58:41

Have a great last day fatima!

I am wide awake this morning (probs because I slept for more than 3 hrs last night!) so took dh to work even though i don't need the car and today should have been my lie in. All the roads here are badly flooded it's horrible. Debating whether or not a trip to IKEA is worth it or not?

I think junior's established a pattern. Freak mummy out by not moving all day then at bedtime or the sound of daddy's voice, go mental! Hopefully not a sign of things to come!!

Detective hope your night got a little easier and you get lots of sleep today xxx I've never done nights but my partner does night rotations offshore and I know how knackered they make him!

ComradeJing Fri 12-Oct-12 07:09:32

Iheartpasties I thought you would have been on the October PN thread for some reason but yes I remember we're due at similar times and in Sydney!

We're living in Millers Point at the moment but going into auction TOMORROW for a house in Penshurst. I bloody love it so fingers crossed. Settlement would be in 6 weeks so a week after my due date. Can't say DH & I do anything by halves... hmm

On another note I'm increasingly sore and worried that I should ask DH to come home. He's in Western Aus at the moment so a good 4 hour flight away plus time difference. Fire alarm yesterday and I had to walk down 23 flights of stairs with DD on my hip. Bump is moving weirdly and my lower back is sore and I hurt everywhere. Not sure if it's just muscle aches or that the "stress" has pushed my body a bit.

StuntNun Fri 12-Oct-12 07:13:44

MM does your OH have a deep voice? Maybe baby can hear that more clearly and responds to it?

I have to see the midwife today for my 36wk appointment today. I take it she'll want to see me at 38wks as well? Then I have my two vaccinations late afternoon hides and runs away from the scary needles.

Tomorrow we have to take DS2 to his climbing lesson at 9 am, then swimming lessons for both DSs. I don't even remember Saturday morning lie ins anymore. sad but then they are both going to a party in the afternoon so DH and I are going to Ikea to get their bedroom furniture and to Lakeland to buy a do-it-yourself sausage making kit! I'm going to make pork and Stilton sausages for us and pork and pancetta sausages for the kids. Yum! Then we have dinner at Pizza Express with DH's brother's ex-fiancée and her DH and two DDs. Now that's a complicated relationship! It's a shame they split up, she would have been a brilliant SIL, but they had a disasterous breakup.

So a busy couple of days for me. There's also an Autumnfest on on Sunday but after yesterday's trip to Tesco I don't think I can handle it.

I wonder if there'll be any more babies today? Legs crossed everyone.

Iheartpasties Fri 12-Oct-12 07:15:49

mm1 yuck to the flooding, only go out in the car if it is safe!!

comrade when is your dh due home? the aches and pains sound awful. I find if I have to carry dd (18 months) I have to carry her like she is a log, with my arm around her middle but with her lying down!? she hates it!!

Iheartpasties Fri 12-Oct-12 07:18:46

sausage making! woh! I love master chef Australia and they always have a massive disaster making sausages!! smile

I didn't take a pillow with ds (didn't think about it) could have done with it tbh, I had to sleep with the top end of the bed upright as it was easier to feed him that way and only had one thin hosp pillow. But tbh with all the noise of the ward and ds crying to be fed at 3am I got NO sleep that night (and every night thereafter til this day) grin

I'm keeping on top of my eyebrows now, they are so big and bushy if I leave them (inherited from my dad, thanks!) so they don't look too bad.

I was awake from half 3 onwards last night don't know how long for. Couldn't get comfy, needed the loo, strange dreams these days and a friggin blocked nose.

horseylady Fri 12-Oct-12 07:22:09

Last day at work sad

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 07:27:04

I am not surprised you hurt CJ. A pg woman should not have to do that, although down stairs is preferable to up them.

I slept really well. No more pains since 6pm last night. No more blood or mucous. It was very strange waking up with the Moses basket next to the bed!

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 07:32:08

I think it was madam who was hoping for a 1 night stay post ELCS. I honestly think that would be pushing it. I fully understand the desire to be home, but I went home after two nights and that was plenty soon enough. I was the only mum who went home after two nights, and that was because of how distressed DD1 was.. The other mums stayed another night and thought I was mad.

Lilliana Fri 12-Oct-12 07:41:26

Oh no Chunky, I'm hoping they stay away for the next 2 weeks as we are due them too. Hope it went well and you haven't got too stressed and have been looking after yourself.

WRT waxing, never again. I had my legs done as a trial before my wedding (thank god I did) every pore blistered and every time my trousers brushed against them they broke. It was agony for weeks; I have never been tempted again (and am so thankful I started on my legs and not my fanjo!)

Not seen my fanjo for a month so god knows what it looks like but tbh I don't do much apart from wave a razor in its general direction occasionally so guess I will join Pass VQ* Stunt and others in the wilderness ladygarden club!

Detective I am now intrigued about the memerable 'picture frame'!

OMG VQ please keep things like that to yourself you will give my Dh ideas!

So pleased for Little, Congratulations if you are around!

DH gave me my christmas present last night, a really nice camera with fancy lenses and the like - think our baby is going to be well photographed! Been playing around with it but with all the rain and flooding there's not alot to look at atm!

Brockle Fri 12-Oct-12 07:52:24

That is wonderful news little. It has given me a huge smile this morning.

I am only at page 8 of this thread but would like to show delayed admiration for VQ 's BJ skills in the face of early labour. My DH will not be so lucky.

MW and consultant now can't decide if baby is up or down. Apparently his bottom and head feel very similar grin They will have another go at 36 weeks in two weeks. The kids are now calling him super agent baby. They obv watch too much phineas and ferb.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Fri 12-Oct-12 08:29:44

Yes that was me VQ - I was quite shocked when the MW mentioned that 1 night might be possible, but I was home after two nights after cat 1 EMCS under GA and felt physically ok, and emotionally and mentally it was a huge improvement going home.

Am presuming that if the ELCS is early in the morning, goes well and my recovery is as smooth as it was for the EMCS (or hopefully better), I could be home the next afternoon. I wouldnt go if I didnt feel up to it, but will have DH and my Mum at home to look after us, and will be MUCH happier at home. So if it is possible, I imagine I'll take it.

Enjoy your last day apple. I'm exactly like you, its mainly the routine and sociability of work that I like so much, but I do like my work and clients too. Am going out for an all you can eat chinese buffet at lunchtime, having already had pizza hut with my team this week <fatty emoticon>. Despite my pleas I also suspect I will not dodge a whole-office public humiliation presentation. Its very kind of people, but monumentally embarassing. Still, a shed load of actual work to get through first...

horseylady Fri 12-Oct-12 08:38:10

Madame mine was yesterday!! I went bright red!! Still so kind of people!!

Right must not cry!!

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 08:57:26



Lane81 Fri 12-Oct-12 09:08:58

I'm another one who has my last day of work today, feels especially weird as have been made redundant so have no job to come back to. I do really love my job, so it's a sad day, but also very excited about what lies ahead.

36 weeks today! Convinced I'll go all the way to 42 and have to be induced! I'll be going crazy with 6 weeks off!

horseylady Fri 12-Oct-12 09:29:08

Lane that's how I feel too!!!!

Next week quite busy, then mums off the week after, sister the week after that, then due date week then who knows!!!

will miss work, got a couple of shifts at the pub though and plan to do lots of walking, some riding and lots of cleaning!! House looks like a bomb site we've just not been home this week!!

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 09:44:52

Ewww housework. That's what I've got planned for today. First job, shampoo downstairs carpet.....

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 09:51:37

Don't over-do it shelly. That sounds like a tiring job.

Today I am catching up with washing, and also washing the newborn nappies and the gro bags. Whilst chasing after a 2yo. Should be fun.

StuntNun Fri 12-Oct-12 09:54:29

After walking the boys to school (an epic 2/3rds of a mile) I sat down for 'just five minutes of OBEM before I start the ironing' and the shopping channel is telling me I have to buy an X5 steam cleaner. Okay it looks great on the ad but does it really work? I seem to remember folks in here talking about steam cleaners, does anyone have this steam cleaner or similar? I've all but given up on the grout in my bathroom and don't even ask about the oven. I should just sign up for Which? and find out for myself I suppose. I like the idea of cleaning without chemicals as well since I have sensitive skin. Oh well, on to the ironing then...

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 10:01:26

Morning. Good luck to all those of you having your last days of work today. My first week has for very quickly if that reassures you (I have to admit having checked my work email several times hhought - even though it is a holiday and noone is there!) I do worry about havig another 5 weeks of this though.

I am off to stay with my parents for a night. Mostly just because my dad keeps saying "have you ever stayed the night in our new house? There's a whole spare room you know?" And this might be the last chance without a baby. It does also give DH some time alone to get on with the decorating which needs done. It's something to do beyond what I achieved yesterday - lying around and sleeping.

I am amazed that I slept at all last night considering I had two naps during the day. I have only recently woken up so I reckon I must have needed it. I am really glad I'm not working anymore though as my sleeping patterns are not really conducive.

Oh and apple good on you for reporting that driver. I reported someone for driving, at speed, over a zebra crossing which was covered in children on their way to school. Despite the fact that it was witnessed by at least two other cars I was the only one to report it. They did go and see the driver though. If more people took responsibility the roads would be safer.

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 10:03:10

Is it a green and white one stunt ? If so I bought one new on ebay and couldn't live without it! It's got attachments to clean everything (windows, wooden floors, carpets, worktops, bathroom tiles, shower etc). It really is as fab as it looks on the adverts - and a bit of shopping around bought mine for £40!

NervousAt20 Fri 12-Oct-12 10:19:32

Congratulations to little it's brilliant news and wishing you all the best through your pregnancy xx

With waxing/shaving I hvent saw my lady bits for a long time but will attempt to do something with them before D-day. Have my hair booked in next week, it's long over due but something I keep putting off

Damn can't remember what else.....

StuntNun Fri 12-Oct-12 10:19:48

Great news MM it looks good on the advert but you can't tell how faked that is. I've been thinking about getting one for a while but if I'm going to be home all the time I may as well get some proper cleaning done rather than relying on emergency 'someone's coming to visit blitzes'. I started using the Flylady.net system a few months ago and it's working really well but it's having the right tools to clean as well. I finally got a decent vacuum cleaner last month which is making life easier.

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 10:25:08

Sophia they are lovely I agree - couldn't justify the £125 price tag new though even though they are the first maternity nightwear that makes me feel vaguely attractive (sorry for outbidding you MM1!). And of course there should be a price premium for allowing me to fit into a size 10 trouser at the present moment! I think I'll be living in them until and after the birth to be honest, must remember to add them to the note for DH of things to run around and get and add to the hospital bag, will also add my pillow - ta GT for that tip.

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 10:27:51

I was really sceptical at first as well stunt but it does make cleaning so easy! I was utterly disgusted the first time I used it on my - what I thought were - brilliant white bathroom tiles! And the best bit is you can guarantee everything is perfectly sanitised and clean without using chemicals. I especially like mine for the stainless steel surface around the kitchen sink and the top of our range cooker. (and the fact I'm a lazy arse and it makes cleaning jobs that would normally take ages and lots of effort so quick and easy!)

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 10:29:34

YW I am currently sporting DH's 'attractive' large man jammies. They are uber comfy though and they have pockets! I think I'll keep them...

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 10:51:39

I love DH's man jammies! They've been living in my chest of drawers since I was about 16 weeks. Poor man there'll be a fight for them once I'm no longer preggers.... grin

kirrinIsland Fri 12-Oct-12 11:05:22

I've got a steam cleaner too stunt it's great smile Makes everything very easy!

Iheartpasties Fri 12-Oct-12 11:37:37

I was thinking of gettinga steam cleaner/mop thingy. It's so hard to decide which one to get, some have great reviews mixed in with terrible ones!!

VQ So everything seems to have quietened down a bit for you? It's so exciting hearing about contractions and early labour etc. I've got my fingers crossed for catbag though, I am well impressed with those twins staying power!

Sorry to hear of floods in the UK, it's not too good.

I have given the spare room a big blitz this afternoon, it's all clean and spic and span and the cupboard is all sorted. feels great. Mum and dad will stay in there for a few weeks when they visit and then it will eventually be a bedroom for either dd or this new one, depends what happens (how long new baby is in our room). I washed the windows, on the inside and took down the fly screen and stepped off the chair with it but caught my bum and it really hurt and then i shouted at dh, because it was his fault ????!! dont ask me how, but he said he wasnt a mind reader!! which of course he isnt but it would be handy sometimes if he was!!! hahaha. I am waiting on some stuff from ebay to arrive, but its coming from china so i got funny emails today telling me they had been dispatched - but the english used was a bit mangled, but quite funny. I ordered a whole heap of storage type thingies so the insides of my cupboards will be all in order forverer! yey. <saddo>

Elizadoesdolittle Fri 12-Oct-12 11:47:33

I've been thinking about getting a steam cleaner for ages too. I think I'll get one soon. I mainly want it for my wooden floors, am very bored of mopping them. I've already put a slow cooker down on my birthday wish list. Perhaps I'll add a steam mop to it. What an exciting birthday smile

StuntNun Fri 12-Oct-12 12:03:38

Pasties I was looking at reviews on Amazon and it was amazing how many people complained that steam cleaning left everything wet! After they had filled the thing with water too, what did they thing steam was made of exactly. I think I will get one because with being home all day I'm noticing how dirty the floors are getting, especially with the boys running in and out and the dog and cat shedding everywhere. It won't be long before there's a baby crawling around putting everything into his mouth. I plan to enjoy this last winter of the open fire before we have to put that big ugly fire guard back up. sad Btw MM thanks for that eBay tip, the X5 cleaner I was admiring this morning is about £25 cheaper from there.

Need opinions, my bag has been dispatched and I've been tracking it, at 9:45 am it said 'courier received' do you think that means its being delivered today?

Brockle Fri 12-Oct-12 12:39:02

Maybe but usually the courier delievers the day after they receive it. You never know your luck smile

Crib bedding is in the washing machine, car seat, crib and moses basket are out of the loft for cleaning. Six weeks to go and everything feels more real now smile

Iheartpasties Fri 12-Oct-12 12:56:17

stuntnun yes!! the amazon reviews can be quite funny, like people complaining because you have to sweep the floor before using the steam mop, and like you say complaining because it leave the floor wet. I think some poeple are waka-doodle (sorry just watched big bang theory) and some of the biggest moaners are probably writting the most reviews.

I had been looking at a steam mop with fab reviews but it was $200, and I just couldnt decide if the reviews even seem real!! there was one review left every single day, seemed a bit fake.

Woo hoo! FINALLY ordered our nursery furniture today, after Tesco blocked my credit card when I tried to do it online last night. Had to call the fraud investigation team, and explain that we're expecting a baby next month so, yes, that's why our credit card spending has risen in the last couple of months (even though we pay it off in full each time)!

Anyway, we went for this one from Next and I love it!

Congratulations to Little, what fantastic news!

Apple I'm very glad you reported that driver, and that the police were going to visit him. There are too many aggressive drivers around who seem to forget they're in control of a very dangerous vehicle with their attitude, well done you!

Iheartpasties Fri 12-Oct-12 13:15:39

misslaugh lovely nursery furniture!!!!

Had my 34 week midwife appointment, baby is still big and starting to get it's head engaged. Hence things being a bit more uncomfortable.
She's said I can go to the birth centre closest to us! This one's 20 mins away and is attached to a hospital but only midwife led. The other one is at the hospital 40 mins away where they also have a NICU etc.
She says to go visit and see what I think and if I want to go there she'll book an appointment with the consultant to ok it.

I hadn't though of going there as I didn't think I would be allowed but i'd like to so now i'm a bit excited. Only drawback is i'm worried about wanting an epidural, if I wanted one there i'd have to be transferred to the other hospital which probably means they'll try encourage me that I don't want. I'm hoping to cope with G&A, TENs and birth pool but at the bigger hospital the back up of an epidural is more accessible.
These are my options if anyone is interested? Is anybody planning on having an epidural or having it as a back up?

StuntNun Fri 12-Oct-12 13:49:27

Pasties the Reevoo website is quite good because they tell you which reviewers have made a purchase.

kirrinIsland Fri 12-Oct-12 14:05:03

Fatima as I spend the latter part of my last labour wishing I had had the epidural I definitely intend to at least have the option this time!

Oooh I really want the bag to come todayyy! I'm staying in all afternoon anyway just in case.

horseylady Fri 12-Oct-12 14:34:45

Last day done!!!! Only shed a couple of a tears!! Am pleased with myself!!

Right with dogs, off to do horse then work at the pub!! Dh at a beer festival on his 'last piss up' bless him!! Pretty certain he'll be out next Friday night too!!

kissyfur Fri 12-Oct-12 14:40:46

Is it a changing bag you've got coming from asos dh21? Which one is it?

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 14:45:08

Fatima I'm going to be birthing somewhere where the nearest epidural is 150 miles and an air ambulance trip away. It would be nice to know I could have one but equally in some ways - knowing that I can't and will just have to cope is quite empowering. I can be a bit of a wuss and panic early, so it is going to force me to (wo)man up I guess. There is no way the NHS will airlift me south just because I want an epidural. Gulp.... I have to decide by 37 weeks, and if I do want one they'll ship me south to Aberdeen then and I'll have to wait for labour down there. I really don't fancy potentially up to a month in the Orkney Mum's dorm down there so am going to chance it without epidural. If it helps no one I know (from south) birthed with one so it's not totally dark ages to do it without x

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 14:55:43

If you are induced, access to an epidural is a must if the drip is used IMO as the contractions are pretty brutal and you have not had a chance to work up to it. If you start naturally, then there are other effective pain relief options available. Epidurals are good, but can lead to other interventions sometimes. I would see how you go.

YW that is a hard decision for a first time mum to make, but you are made of tough stuff, and it sounds as if you will have very good midwife support there.

kissy well it's a bag I'm planning to use as a changing bag! It's this one

Hope that link works I'm on my phone so it's the mobile site.

kissyfur Fri 12-Oct-12 15:10:15

Very nice too smile hope it arrives today for you

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 15:15:14

If I end up being induced they'll ship me down to Aberdeen at 10 days overdue anyway so I could yet end up giving birth in a baby factory with an epidural. If that happens I'm going to be sanguine - there's no sense railing against something you can't change. Deep down I would just love to do it up here as the hospital just feels so homely and cosy and I know all of the midwives (who themselves have to be totally on the ball with active and natural birth given the limited painkilling options for ladies up here).

Nice bag DH

georgee Fri 12-Oct-12 15:20:03

YW big respect to you for not having the epidural as a back up. I agree, I think psychologically it will push you to deal with it all with your own resources. Do you get diamorphine in Orkney if things get a bit hot? I had it after my induction just started things off far too quickly as VQ describes (no gap at all between contractions) and it really helped for hours although it made me talk rubbish about my hair changing colour and wanting to talk to Sarah Brown (who was PM's wife at the time). I did end up with the epidural but that was pretty late on in the process and wasn't essential for me (in terms of pain) by then. Although it was useful when it was decided that I should then have an EMCS because they didn't need to add much more then in terms of anaesthetic! My friend who was induced at the same time (pessary induction) didn't have an epidural, in fact very few women in the groups I know had one.

georgee Fri 12-Oct-12 15:21:57

Ah YW, just saw your note about induction. Sounds like a plan. Fingers crossed you won't need it, I like the sound of your hospital too and I'm sure they'd love to have a customer, they'll spoil you rotten!

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 15:31:25

Georgee Sarah (and Gordon) Brown now live in my village. We get 24hr police surveillance so are officially living in the safest town in Scotland! Crime rates here are non existant. (Shame my car insurance went up £40 when we moved here though...)

I took today off to do my accounts. So far though I've managed to take my gran out for lunch (good deed of the day?), make my second batch of marshmallow fudge this week I 'lost' the first one blush and am now cooking a massive pot of chilli for tea. Must stop procrastinating....

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 15:32:49

Yip we can get diamorphine though it sounds more trippy than painkilling! I think DH might piss himself at me on that....

Yay my bag has arrived! Teeny bit smaller than I thought it'd be but still gorge grin

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 15:58:30

Trippy is good! My clients often say how good their births were grin

mcsquared Fri 12-Oct-12 17:21:25

Hello everyone! I probably posted two threads ago as things have been moving so quick! Looks like everyone is prepared/preparing for labour (if not having babies already).

My friend had her little girl at 28 weeks a couple of weeks ago. Mum and baby both doing well. Doing what I can to help, e.g. Lifts to hospital on my days off, just wish I could do more!

I feel quite prepared and excited about baby's arrival now. I had a week of brown discharge which was nothing to worry about in the end, probably just me over exerting myself, but for a moment I was quite scared and in a way that was positive because it made me realise that I really do care about this baby. Also had the baby shower which was lovely. Was so nice to see my friends and I haven't felt so happy and relaxed for a while.

For some reason I have a feeling he's going to show a bit early! I'm hoping for overdue though so I don't lose my annual leave as maternity leave starts on due date. Also MIL is on holiday from the 6th and I'm due on the 12th, so the later the baby is, the less holiday she'll have left and the more alone time I can have with baby. I'll be OK while husband is at home with me on paternity leave but frightened of feeling vulnerable and being left alone with her when I won't have the energy to deal with the extra stress. Also can imagine just wanting to be in a state of disarray and want to do that with some privacy and dignity!

Has anyone been to the NHS parent craft classes? Had my first one today and although it was good, didn't tell me anything I hadn't already read! I think the feeding one next week will probably be more beneficial as I have quite a few questions.

Hope everyone is well, might not catch you ladies until the next thread! Though will try and make more of an effort when on leave next week!

Back from the hospital, scan is showing little one is slap bang on the middle line if the growth chart so no worries there.
I've been given the nod to take Tramadol for the SPD for 3 weeks when needed then to stop otherwise baby could suffer withdrawals.

Consultant said its going to have to be a labour ward birth rather than birthing suite, there is just took my risk factors to consider but I'm ok with that, as long as he arrives safe and unharmed I'm happy. She also said the first sign of anything at all I get my bum to hospital, no waiting for contractions to be a certain time/length.

Again it's better to be safe and close to the professionals if needed than not.

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 17:34:23

Lovely to hear from you mcsquared. I have an NHS parentcraft class on Monday. Not expecting much from it. I completely understand where you're coming from re inlaws. Mine have announced a 5 day visit at the end of October (when DH's offshore so it will be up to me to entertain them, arghh?!) and have made it clear they plan to fly over "as soon as" junior's born. As lovely as they are I don't think I can cope with them staying with us. I constantly feel like they're judging my ability to run a house when they're here and they do nothing for themselves and just don't seem to have any concept of anyone's needs other than their own (their last impromptu visit was the weekend before we moved house, grr). I'm not favourite offspring-in-law as it is though(they've only acknowledged I even exist since I got preggers!) so don't know how to go about telling them to feck off and book into a hotel if they must descend upon us with their carnage. Fact is, I don't want any overnight visitors for a good while after our baby's born so we can attempt to settle into some kind of normality. (My parents of course are welcome anytime, but then they're resourceful, useful souls who both live within a half hour drive....and don't care that I haven't emptied the dishwasher for 3 days or have run out of milkshock)

horseylady Fri 12-Oct-12 17:38:58

Mm i wish my mil was alive so I wouldn't have to deal with fil alone lol!!! Your parents sound like mine (though mum would prob tut at the dishwasher then sort it!!)

Tits good news re the baby!!

Mcsqaured lovely to hear from you too!!

I'm shattered. Think I've been dreading the last few days and now they're over I'm just so sleepy!!! Hardly slept this week and now don't want to go to job 2, I just want to sleep for about 3 weeks!!!

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 17:40:25

I wish my throbbing vagina would go the hell away grrrrr.

I'm getting grumpier and grumpier and more hormonal as the minutes pass today sad

I'm hot, achy, tired, damp, and damn uncomfortable. The only comfortable position (as far as the baby is concerned anyway) is lying down. If I am not lying down I get a lot of objection sad And even lying down isn't all that comfy!

I thought my waters might have started leaking last night, had to put a pad on in the end as kept getting small gushes. Quite sure it was wee hmm in the end as it coincided with thumps from bambino. Glamerous, no?

I'm waiting for DP to bring my my dinner in bed this evening grin why make ones self uncomfortable on the sofa?!

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 17:43:29

Had a lovely productive day today. Have shampoo'd carpets, wiped down all woodwork including the front door inside and out, got rid of all the cobwebs around the shelter over the front door, washed windows inside and out and been shopping (well intended to then had my dinner in Morrisons cafe instead) then collected kids. So glad I've moved my fat arse at last grin

Hubby doesn't know what I have planned for him tomorrow (moving bedroom round and decorating), a BJ would do it but I think I'll just play the damsel in distress instead <shudders at the thought of willies>.

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 17:46:03

I thought the same this morning Detective, I was nattering away at school when all of a sudden it was all damp. Was just wee. Thank goodness for extra long panty liners that are specially made for 'all kinds of fluids' grin

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 17:46:31

I just ordered my evening meal via facebook grin

Can now hear DP in the kitchen, and DS just bought me a drink.

Ahhhhh. smile

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Fri 12-Oct-12 17:49:26

End of a long last day, but got just about everything done I wanted to. Lovely gossipy lunch with work-chums, and then was very touched by a massive presentation done by the chairman of the firm, no less, who said some lovely things about me and made me go BRIGHT red. Nice presents too - as this is second baby got quite a bit of stuff for me <selfish emoticon>. My direct boss even cut through his massive hangover called from a conference to tell me to enjoy my last day and not get worked up about leaving things perfect.

About to log off and pop my out of office on. Weird. Next chapter officially starting.

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 17:51:52

Hello. Chilling at my parental's watching pointless while poor DH is at home alone left with the decorating.

CandyPop Fri 12-Oct-12 17:54:45

mcsquared I went to parentcraft this week. We're doing nct classes too. Nct classes are longer so we got more time to ask questions etc. parentcraft was like the summary class for the nct one. Like u said, didn't reveal much more than what we already know.

We've picked up our carseat today and had the base fitted . Seems all to real having a car seat at the back of the car! We also finally got a confirmation that our iCandy will be delivered 1st week of nov. doesn't leave us much time but at least it's before the due date and we have absolute certainty rather than an estimate now.

Had midwife appointment and all is good, she measures bang on 35 weeks ( so two fingers to those who keep saying how huge I am.. One of my pet hates!) her head is also low towards the pelvic bone. She's not quite at optimum position but not back to back either so I have time to work on that!

detective I have similar problem, not quite weeing but with wetness. All of this week I had copious discharge (sorry tmi) . All started off on Sunday when I found a teaspoon worth of snot like stuff in my pants blush ... Ah the glamour of it all!!

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 18:29:04

As we cannot decide what to call the boy, we said we would call it the same name as the new baby in 'good luck Charlie' if it is a boy. They called him Toby. That was ok we thought. Middle names Wan Kenobi! I swear I nearly passed out laughing!

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 18:37:39

My nephew is called Toby - it's a really cute name for a wee one.

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 18:42:41

We just cannot agree, and it is driving me potty! We agreed so easily about the girls. Girls are so much easier to name!

Two separate people today were shocked I still had 5 weeks to go and both said I looked ready to pop..really?? I'm measuring bigger this time round but assume it was because she's my second.
Hopefully it means ill pop early grin

Keep getting sharp jabs to my nether regions which could mean she's worming her way down there. The scan on mon will reveal where she is, can't wait!

LittleLolly Fri 12-Oct-12 18:54:11

candy I have been having loads of discharge too, it has made me wonder if my waters were trickling a few times! Ahh the glamour of pregnancy.

Is it really bad that I'm having frozen Hollands pie, chips and onion rings for tea? Sometimes a junk tea is the only thing that will do!

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 18:57:24

Valium I always thought girls names would be easier but we agreed on 3 poss boys names (a fav and two 'just in case he doesn't look like a -' backups) but have NO set girls names. Everytime I think we've agreed on one he goes off it.

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 19:04:37

Woo DH I've got another scan next week as well. I hope it shows that my cervix is shortening (whereas at the others I wanted to see no sign of the hatch being opened). Can't wait to see the not so wee one and how engaged they are. When the sonographer offered us a 36 week scan that seemed like forever away and right at the end of pregnancy - eeek and now we're here.

georgee Fri 12-Oct-12 19:07:54

MM1 I agree, we've found girls so much harder. Boys are easy for us, we've got that sorted. We think if it's a girl we're just going to have to choose a name we both love but which is really popular (I was trying to avoid popular) - Lily. Always loved it. The only other one we both quite like is Eva - also popular. Mind you, we're James for a boy which is also v popular, partic in Scotland (3rd!). Never mind, we've got a fairly unusual surname so there won't be many on earth with the full name!

Just cooking a curry. Feel so unlike eating curry however - much prefer the pie and chips option LittleLolly!

Madam nice that they got presents for you as well. Luckily I was spared a massive presentation, it was kept between my department although it is an open plan office but at least I didn't have everyone crowded around me. I did have the directors come and speak to me during the day though to wish me luck and ask if I could put the baby on hold for six months grin

We went out for lunch as well to a posh restaurant and they gave me a changing bag and lovely Fisher Price rainforest play mat. Must have spent quite a bit. It's nice to feel appreciated sometimes isn't it?

Not sure how I feel at the moment. I think I'll miss it but at the same time I'm getting bloody tired now and I've got so much to sort out around the house before baby arrives.

Oh and apparently I make pregnancy look easy the way I haven't complained about anything. They haven't seen my mumsnet posts then grin

yw I know I remember when they said I needed extra scans at 28, 32 and 36 weeks and even the 28w one seemed really far off and now that's a distant memory!

The last few weeks drag so much

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 19:15:11

The feckers at my work didn't even get me a card!

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 19:16:57

sad feeling jealous of all you ladies having leaving lunches/dos, getting presents etc sad

I'm getting a big fat nothing. If anyone does send a card etc it will be after the birth.

Also nothing still forthcoming from parents or family in the way of a gift for baby or hand me downs.

Good job baby has me, DP and DS really!!! No one else really cares....

Woe is me grin

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 19:18:02

Me and Shelly are clearly in the same bastard employers camp!

Phew, thought it was just me!!

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 19:20:37

Haha, we certainly are. Bitches are us!

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 19:21:12

Those who are feeling odd about finishing work, you are now entering 'the baby bubble'. A wonderful, fairly short lived period of your life, when the baby is your world, and the memories of work and normal life fade into insignificance, but come back the second your Mat Leave ends. It is a wonderful time when the clock doesn't really matter (unless you have the sodding school run) and time kinda stays still. Enjoy it, as it is over too fast, and you will remember it with fondness in years to come smile

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 19:22:17

I got sodding flowers. Big bunch, but I fecking hate flowers!

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 19:29:25

I'll have your flowers! I like flowers!

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 19:35:45

Long dead grin But that is the point! They are dead when they are given to you. Not keen on dead things. My wedding bouquet cost £5.50. Just one (dead) red rose.

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 19:37:28

I like the name Angel. Would he have the snot kicked out of him on a daily basis?

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 19:37:37

They look pwetty on my table though....! grin

Dead things aren't all bad?!

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Fri 12-Oct-12 19:38:23

I got nothing from work either and don't expect to even after baby arrives. When I had my first they had a baby shower for me, as they do for everyone having babies, yet this time nothing, and in fact a friend who used to work with me arranged a big 'friends' one so I had one in the end. I expected a few girls from work to make the effort and come as a sign was out in dept but no one did!

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 19:38:28


On an hourly basis, not daily!

Some twat is letting off fireworks hmm already.

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 19:42:17

Thank you for your honesty detective grin

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 19:44:52

You are welcome wink

My child is never going to be named. It will be known forever more as 'Baby'

kirrinIsland Fri 12-Oct-12 19:47:49

candypop I've been having that too blush been a couple of weeks now.

For those that are on to number 3 (or more) how similar to your first labour was your second? I have this silly idea in my head that it going to be exactly the same - waters won't break, they'll do that in the hospital; all over in one day and home next morning, etc etc. I might be in for a bit of a shock!!

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 19:49:58

I said to hubby last night that maybe this baby was a bit thick (was shining a torch on my stomach but absolutely no reaction, it doesn't to loud sounds either - stubborn thing), he didn't like me saying that and went all defensive grin

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 19:55:10

Kirrin A lot quicker and less 'ring of fire' because you absolutely PUSH as hard and as fast as you can through it (my second had a BIG head too).

3rd labour - even quicker, only just made it, this is the only one where my waters actually went on their own. With the first they suggested breaking them to quicken labour and the second I asked them to as I could feel a vague need to push but as soon as they broke them out he came smile

I am one of the few who loves the labour and birth bit and am really looking forward to it, I think a lot of it is mind over matter and knowing what you are in for really helps.

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 19:56:05

My baby is a total pain in the ass, literally

It hates my work clothes. Do you think I could get away with wearing maternity leggings with my scrub top tonight?!! I was in so much pain from the movements last night and it was moving because of my sodding scrub pants which are too tight. They are the biggest size we have too!! It is the lack of elasticity to be honest!!

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 19:57:06

With the second I was home within hours, I asked to stay overnight with the 3rd just to get 1 night on my own with her and this one is being born at home because I just can't be arsed with the ferrying about before hand. Plus I don't think I'd make it, just so much easier to stay here in my own little warren.

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 19:58:10

Yes, balls to them Detective get your leggings on!

jaylee89 Fri 12-Oct-12 19:59:42

had 36 weeks midwife appointment today and baby is 2/5th engaged (i thought second babies dont engage till labour) also MW thinks she will be around 7lb.4oz when born so in her words were "you will push that out easily" shock is she saying i have a fat fanjo???? lmao. cheeky bitch

she was very lovely though and explained everything throughtly to me to help with spd!

have treated myself to a birth ball today and i must admit it is very comfortable and i do enjoy bouncing on it but jeeeze it brings on some cracking BH. anyone else found this???

hope your feeling better VQ welldone for the spectacular BJ last night lol will not be telling DH about this grin

wondering whether to get takeaway or not hmmmmmmm,

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 20:03:15

How can people afford a month's worth of fireworks? I just don't get it.

I have an arse in my ribs. I thought it was passed that. Top of my bump has a patch which feels red raw. I keep looking to see the damage but there is nothing there.

Sorry VQ I would love to tell you that having the name Angel would not be remotely problematic. Sadly I fear this is not the case.

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 20:10:31

Leggings are the way to go detective

I was wondering how much relationship there is between the births had by mum and mil and the birth you are likely to have? I know obviously that medical intervention has changed but is there any correlation between, say, your mum giving birth early and whether you will give birth early? Does that make any sense at all whatsoever?

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 20:11:44

pass yeah, that name is gone. The sore patch at the top of your bump will likely stretch before long. Unfortunately. I remember that pain well. With this one, my patch is just above my belly button.


ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 20:13:27

AFAIK the best indicator of your birthing experience is how your mum and sisters got on. But that is tenuous.

I don't know Pass but it would be interesting to know. Both me and my brother were 2 days late and I would be pleased with that.

TheDetective Fri 12-Oct-12 20:19:50

Mum - bang on EDD.

Me T+13.


VQ Ezra?

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 20:20:01

VQ oh crap my twin sisters' two births were in her words 'utter clusterfucks' and 'ended up with either her or her baby in intensive care'. We don't have an intensive care up here <<puts fingers in ears and sings 'lalalalalala'>>

My Mum had identical twins 6 weeks early but managed a natural birth (in the days when a vaginal birth of a breech wasn't considered a radioactive event!) but me and my sis were only 4lbers and this bub is already fatter than that.

Oh shite...

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 20:20:42

Thanks VQ. I keep moisturising the patch but it feels really red and sore. I keep expecting a stretch mark - sounds like I will get one soon enough.

Ok - my mum had three of us. First was a total trauma but arrived on his due date. I was 2 days early and my wee sister was 2 days late. My MIL had three all of whom were early. My wee sister is officially due two weeks after me but keeps measuring much bigger so we will have I wait and see whether her birth experience and mine have any relationship. She is physically very different to me so is it quite likely to be different anyway?

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 20:23:53

Ok. Let's go with the theory that our mother's and sister's birthing experiences will be good indicators only if they had good ones.

VQ I have never met an Erazmus. This is usually a good thing.

First - induced at 6pm bang on EDD for pre eclampsia and me crying to the obs because I'd been in for 8 out of 10 months contractions started at 11pm, waters broken at about 9am, epidural and all the gas and air given shortly after, slept until 4pm where DS was out within 3 pushes and a 4th degree tear.

Second - in hospital at 36+6 with reaction to painkillers due to SPD, was ready to go home when I realised every 2 minutes I was jumping off the bed because I couldn't physically sit down, realised it was contractions, examined there and then, 8cm dilated. Whisked up to labour ward, walked around for 20 minutes, got on the bed to be examined, waters broke. 2 pushes DS2 arrived, not a scratch on me. grin

No idea with mum's we were all c-sections because she was too tiny to contemplate a vaginal birth. (4ft 10, size 2 feet!)

Eldest sister. 1 induced, blood pressure issues at 39 weeks, 2nd born in the toilet at home after 2 noticeable contractions at 39 weeks, 3rd born in hospital corridor after an hours labour at 39 weeks.

Sister 2, both babies born after 3 days labour at 41 weeks, both forceps births.

All very different grin

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 20:38:42

I did say the link was tenuous.

I do like Ezra. Have considered that. Have considered every bloody name there is!

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 20:43:12

I did a summer's digging with an archaeology Professor called Ezra back in my undergraduate yoof. Nice guy!

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 20:44:03

What about Gabriel?

YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 20:45:40

I love that name - still being considered as a middle name by us.... gorgeous gorgeous name. Gabe is such a nice nickname too.

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 20:49:04

DH likes Gabriel. I cannot imagine shouting it in soft play. He also likes Raphael. I have similar feelings towards that name.

horseylady Fri 12-Oct-12 20:50:28

I know an Ezra lovely chap!!!!

Not angel though vq poor child!! I would call mine emille but dh hates it sad

Nan two weeks late with all three, mother bang on with me early with sis.

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 20:52:44

VQ I am currently dredging through the entire school roll by memory for you.

I know a lady called Angel, please don't call him that VQ!

I like Gabriel (nn Gabe) and Ezra, also like Sebastian. smile

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 20:59:31


YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 21:03:08

VQ am not sure how you can imagine yelling 'Angel' at soft play but not Raphael or Gabriel? (given they're both angelic names too and also much more yellable!)

kirrinIsland Fri 12-Oct-12 21:04:26

Thanks Shelley I like the idea of it being quicker! And tits apart from the spd part, your second one sounds pretty good!

Gabriel is a lovely name smile

My mum had us (twins) 2 weeks early and both 4lbers so I don't think I can compare to that, and DD was 5days early and just shy of 7lb - I don't know if the fact that she was early means this one will be too but I certainly hope so!!

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 21:07:40

You are right as always YW grin

pass I like Samuel, but it is popular non? We were gonna call the girls Solomon had they not been girls. Still like Solomon, but DH has gone off it.

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 21:14:07

I suppose all I am going on is the fashion from 11 to 18 years ago. I think Sam is popular but Samuel maybe not so.

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 21:15:40

<mentally racks brain for nice boys' names of kids I've taught>

Please avoid Hayden, Jayden and Kayden (shudders at memory of triplets last year called this).

How about Ruaridh? (pr roo-a-ree) Or I know lots of lovely wee boys called Scott! Callum/Calum? A friend's just had a boy and called him Murray. Alexander? Ewan?

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 21:17:58

Bit of a Scottish theme there!!

I also taught an adorable 6 year old called Dubhgall (pr Dougal) last year!

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 21:18:14


Definitely have never taught any boys with these names

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 21:19:47

Hayden, Jayden, and kayden? No!

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 21:22:06

I love Gideon, but DH has said no. Perhaps I should just divorce him grin. I love Gideon very much!

I love,


This little one has so far been a Stefan, Jeremy, Jonah and a James before we decided. smile

ValiumQueen Fri 12-Oct-12 21:26:05

I love Saul and Hamish, but DH has said no. There is a pattern emerging. We considered Jonah too.

We could not call him Rory, as DH already thinks he is following the life of 'simple rules' and he would die young... Bless him.

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 21:32:14

pass seriously! They were horrible little shits 'delightful children'.

I have an uncle hamish, but he's a complete creep so that's sort of put me off the name. I also know a westie dog called Hamish...

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 21:35:38

That shouldn't be allowed.


I had a hamster called Sydney.

One of the kids at school suggested Rupert.

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 21:37:07

I knew someone whose siblings were called Miles and Jiles. He was Iain. When he had kids he had three boys - Miles, Jiles and Rory. I'll bet Rory was chuffed

MissMummy1 Fri 12-Oct-12 21:37:17

I have an ex called Finlay. Dickhead of a guy. Nice name though, if a little too common in these parts now? Personally I prefer the spelling Findley.

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 21:44:51

I was going to say I prefer Findlay.

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 21:47:18

Gideon? Don't you remember that kids program years ago with the duck with the long neck?

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 21:49:49

linkey to Gideon Showing my age, it's a 70's kids TV show blush

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 21:50:06

yes yes yes!! Years ago I was the only one who had ever heard of that programme. I used to search online and couldn't find any mention. Eventually I emailed channel 4 and someone emailed me back saying I hadn't imagined it. It was sort of bible stories.

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 21:51:06

Shelly, you are the only other person I have ever come across who also saw it. I honestly thought I had made it up.

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 21:51:48

I only remember it because I used to feel really sorry for it lol.

ShellyBobbs Fri 12-Oct-12 21:52:37

But for that reason alone I could never name a child of mine Gideon, just because of that duck grin

Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 12-Oct-12 21:53:49

Murray is great, as is Hamish, love it!

Long drive today time for sleeping.


YellowWellies Fri 12-Oct-12 22:00:09

Hmmm Gideon - the opening syllable sounds too much like Git for me. If you liked Jonah - how about Jonas? (Can have either a hard or a soft J at the start) it's on our list (sssssh don't tell DH I'm sharing it!). I love Hamish but had a second cousin who committed suicide with that name and it just has sad memories in our family sadly. Findley is nice. How about some cool Orcadian names if you want something leftfield - Magnus (often shortened to Mags)? Thorfinn? Torleif? Leif?

ComradeJing Fri 12-Oct-12 22:46:37

I need a name that goes with DDs Seraphina

I'm in serious love with Harrison Edward Surname or Edward Percy Surname or (personal favourite, I give not a shit if people hate it) Rufus Edward Surname. Edward and Percy are both family names.

I'm having a lot of painless branston hicks - bump keeps getting very tight.

Dixiebell Fri 12-Oct-12 22:47:22

I asked DS tonight what we should call the new baby when he arrives. He said "erm....Jess the Cat". grin

kirrinIsland Fri 12-Oct-12 22:55:48

VQ Solomon was top of my list for boys names, but DP wouldn't hear of it. If it turns out the sonographer was wrong and this baby is actually a boy then I'm hoping the power of surprise will help me get my way with that one!

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Fri 12-Oct-12 23:05:04

I'm looking for advice from detective really... Or anyone more in the know than me. As I said yesterday I was up at hospital being monitored for 3 hours due to reduced movements. They told me to call back if any concerns but my question is this, baby is still not as active as his/her 'normal' in that it's moving but not what I'm used to. Do i just assume this is baby's new 'normal'? Does that even make sense?.

shanelle5 Fri 12-Oct-12 23:12:20

This is a great website for those stuck with names
No good with links sorry blush
It has some really good suggestions but mostly I liked the way they are grouped together, ie literary names, names from history, greek names, cool names and if you like** then you ill love * etc.
Our little man has been Gabriel William since the day the weestick showed up 2 lines and weve not deviated from it at all. My only worry is that both my teenage Girls hate it and said independently that he will get teased. Apparently both have Gabriel's at their school/college and they get a lot of "gay" name calling sad I did wobble on it and wonder if we are out of touch as we are oldies (40) and if it were maybe a little feminine, but all the adult comments, including all on here have always been so positive that Im just ignoring the DD's. Besides if you could hear some of their alternatives you'd shudder. (Hunter, Riley, various chav names!!)

shanelle5 Fri 12-Oct-12 23:12:50

Oh I DID manage a link smile

Passmethecrisps Fri 12-Oct-12 23:19:05

Shanelle, the thing is that by the time he gets to the age where children think to be unkind over such things, who knows what the in thing to be bullied for will be. I know a Gabriel and I have never known him to have an issue. Commenting on things being 'gay' is already passé and will certainly be no issue in 13 years time

shanelle5 Fri 12-Oct-12 23:34:01

Thanks pass
We already shorten it to Gabe but my thoughts are that kids will be mean about just about anything, if its not their name its big nose/ears, too short/tall, fat/thin, pretty/ugly etc etc. Your right though, it used to be a good tease calling someone Gay but these days its fading fast and in the future it wont even be an insult, just another "norm" so good point, thankyou smile

blonderthanred Fri 12-Oct-12 23:37:12

Jing I love Harrison and Rufus. I am quite a fan of surnamey names. But VQ never mind ducks, surely Gideon is out because of our beloved Chancellor Osborne?

Whoever said about birthing balls causing BH, I found that the first few times but now not so much, I think the right muscles have got used to it. Which I hope is good!

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 01:18:19

When we had a quite lovely mums group session after dd was about 10 weeks old (we have arranged mums groups over here and they are fab) our HV asked us for tips that we had be given that we would like to share. I shared one from my mum and it made the whole room go mushy so thought I’d share it here. Mum said that often night feeds are the most magical time because it is just you and your new baby and instead of always feeling fed up at being woken up you should enjoy those magic little moments. No one to interrupt your special time together to just gaze into each others eyes. Awww.

Think we're finally sorted on first and middle names now, first name is slightly unusual and middle name is more 'normal' it's a name I've always liked, looking forward to announcing it!

StuntNun Sat 13-Oct-12 07:47:05

I'm not keen on our name James Andrew as I think it's nice but a bit dull plus we have a really common surname so it certainly won't stand out. DH wants to nickname him Jimmy (he loves Jimmy Page and Jimi Hendrix). I prefer Jay or Jazz (initials JAS) for a nickname so we'll see what sticks. But in the end I chose the names for DS1 and DS2 (with DH's consent eventually of course) so it's his turn and he is definite about James.

I'm not in favour of unusual names because of the endless comments I get. Even 'Oh that's a lovely name' gets wearing after the first fifteen years. I've had 'You sound like a film star', 'Bow to the princess', 'Why did your parents call you that?', 'Do you siblings have unusual names too?', all sorts. Now when people ask me I tell them Aurora means 'pretentious middle-class parents'. I suppose I like my name but just not the fact that everyone comments on it. No-one is going to say 'James, what a lovely name, my brother's name is James' are they? BUT times are changing now. With playgrounds full of Jaxons, Angels and Ronaldos I'm sure an unusual name will be much more accepted by their generation and won't necessarily be used for teasing. Actually I was never teased about my name, nobody could really come up with anything! Kia-ora was the worst I got but seeing as the line is 'We all adore a Kia-ora' it wasn't rich pickings for the bullies.

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 07:49:13

shelly I remember that show, and I just love the name even more, but DH says no.

pasties I totally agree about night feeds. I have fond memories with my first, and the night feeds are even more important with subsequent babies, as during the day there is always someone else after your attention.

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 07:53:13

I would rather my child was picked on for their name than their build, glasses etc. kids will always find something.

Well, as for me, DH went to get the paper, I felt the urge to push, he came home to see me on the floor with baby, then I woke up. Bugger.

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 07:57:22

My dd had her first ever swim lesson today, she is 18 months so went in with my dh, and one of the other dads there is miguel maestre, he is a tv chef over here smile i was mildly excited!

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 08:00:30

vq you had me going then!!

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 08:13:29

pasties it had me going too!

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 08:21:13

dreaming about actually pushing is quite full on!!! scary!

Peaky1 Sat 13-Oct-12 08:21:41

It's all a matter of opinion isn't it? My baby will be called James and I have always absolutely loved that name. It's my Dad's middle name (who always wanted a boy and ended up with 3 girls, lol) and it's my great uncle's name who is buried in Normandy after dying fighting in the war. I think it's a good strong name that you can do a lot with for nicknames if you/he wanted and can't really take the piss out of it.

Times change and as do classroom registers (how many Ethel's, Mavis', Doris' etc did you have in your class?!). Some names stick around, some don't and some make come-backs. I'm not one for fashions and fads so I just say go with what you like and what you think they may like too! I'm just lucky I knew what name I wanted years ago. Girls names, however....

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 08:22:01

but exciting too!

MissMummy1 Sat 13-Oct-12 08:27:54

I have my flu and whooping cough jabs this morning. Only took one arsey phonecall to get it sorted (after waiting 10 days for them to phone me back...)

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 08:34:36

yey mm1

TheDetective Sat 13-Oct-12 08:41:54

Izzy if it isn't normal for you, then ring up and get seen. I wouldn't hesitate, I'm not a believer in 10 movements or count the kicks. I believe that we know our babies well enough to recognise when something isn't normal for them.

It probably isn't anything at all, but without a check over, you won't know and will sit worrying.


TheDetective Sat 13-Oct-12 08:45:18

The leggings did the trick. Back to full mobility!

Apart from the ever pained fanjo. Getting worried now!! Pain killers don't help sad I've had a good look and prod underneath but there is nothing unusual. I just don't know what I've done!! I've wracked my brain to come up with a diagnosis but got nothing at all!

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 08:52:11

detective a broken fanko, oh no - not good. izzy the detectives advice sounds spot on smile no one will be annoyed with you if you need more scans or checks.

Passmethecrisps Sat 13-Oct-12 09:12:40

Morning. No sleep. Arse biscuits.

StuntNun Sat 13-Oct-12 09:22:28

Peaky to be honest it's not the name so much as the popularity that I'm not keen on. I know so many people called James. Anyway it's DH's middle name and a traditional family name for the clan as well and it's already decided and agreed by both parties although my mum HATES it for some reason. I think she thinks it's narcissitic (sp?) because it's DH's name. I'm not having any name debate this time, I want to register the birth in the hospital for a change. My DS1's name was decided before he was even conceived but my mum put a spanner in the works in the hospital by insisting that he should have George in his name after my late grandfather. I liked my grandad okay, but not so much that I wanted to name my child after him. Also I didn't want DS1 to have four names becuase DH and I only have three names and I would be jealous. Also my other grandfather's name was Sheikh and that name would result in teasing in this country plus it seems nearly everyone in my family is called Sheikh. Then DS2 was called Voldemort for the first six weeks because we couldn't agree on a name. So my main criteria for names this time is that they will be decided in advance!

I'm having fun today: after six days of BH I have had what I think is a bloody show (pink mucous after no bleeding at all in pregnancy), period pain, backache and I feel like puking grin. I know nothing might come of all this for a while but it certainly feels like things are going in the right direction. Baby moved downwards a few inches a couple of days ago so we'll see how things go. I had my whooping cough vaccine yesterday so let's hope baby James will hang on for another couple of weeks at least. It would also be really handy if he could wait until my inlaws are back from holiday on Saturday! I'm only 36+2 so I was thinking I'd have a little while to wait. Am going to pack my hospital bag today so I'll be ready (although DH swears he would be able to tell the difference between panty liners and maternity pads - can't remember who said they had that problem!)

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 09:28:35

stunt!! very exciting! I never had a bloody show or lost my mucus plug with dd.

Names are so difficult especially when family members stick their oars in!!

kirrinIsland Sat 13-Oct-12 09:33:01

stunt ooh could be you next smile (sorry catbag )

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 09:39:38

or will vq be next. Do you think you are still in early labour vq? <nosey>

SwissArmyWife Sat 13-Oct-12 09:52:57

detective are you sure it's not just pressure from baby? I'm feeling a lot of pains down there too so I can sympathise.
I especially cringe when baby stretches out and I feel like my waters are going to break!

As for unusual names, I am rather guilty of using them! My DD is Fushia, (my favourite flower) changed the spelling so it didn't have the c in it, just in case! Her middle name is Lilly, which isn't so unusual but I've never had a bad comment about her name.
However with this one, his middle name will be James as it runs in both mine and DP's family as middle names , and DP is in fact a James. smile
I have a feeling people will be shocked he has such a 'normal' middle name to be honest!

SwissArmyWife Sat 13-Oct-12 09:54:45

Oooh stunt definitely sounds like your body is getting ready, bit could be a while yet!

Exciting stunt!

Had my flu jab this morning, all fine don't even have a sore arm.

Still no more news about WC jab though, seeing mw on mon so will ask her about it.

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 10:37:43

Well, very little happening with me. I think it was just a false alarm, but you never know.

Benedict? Called Ben as a NN. May be a bit much with having a Billie too? When we realised, it just made us want it a bit more grin. It makes a change to almost agree.

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 10:38:36

It means blessed, which is apt considering my advanced years, and the fact it is a boy after two (very wonderful) girls.

georgee Sat 13-Oct-12 10:47:39

Oooh yes, Benedict is a beautiful name. Nice long, nice short, and meaningful as you say.

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 10:49:26

Thank you georgee I was a fan of battle star galactica in my youff grin

MissMummy1 Sat 13-Oct-12 11:04:41

I have a client called benedict. Known as Ben. He's such a lovely guy!

Lane81 Sat 13-Oct-12 11:11:58

Left work yesterday and feeling a bit strange today, it all seems real now! Everyone was so lovely, they each knitted a square of a blanket and put them all together to make a lovely yellow blanket, it's beautiful!plus some treats for me. Felt very lucky!

Not to mention the v fine Benedict Cumberbatch wink

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 11:18:23

Morning lovelies!

VQ I've got a good pal called Benedict - fab name. Swiss, Stunt, Peaky of all of the traditional names I like James the best. I know so many nice Jims and Jamies. It's fab.

I think we're sorted on first names for pink or blue and just have second names to play around with. Both of our chosen first names are pretty unusual (One Swedish, one Norwegian) but can be easily pronounced by English language speakers and shortened to English sounding names if wanted. Middle names in our families are usually used to commemorate a relative so we're still deciding on that.

We've also just heard that DH's cousin and his girlfriend are expecting in April so junior will have another 'sort of' cousin to mob around with. They are only early 20s and the baby was totally unplanned so are a bit in shock but both work with primary school kids - and are so natural with wee ones - they are going to be fantastic.

I've been having back ache and period pain (just gently) every night. But nowt more dramatic.

I love my DH. What do you want for breakfast DW he asks as he hands me my cuppa in bed, jam roly-poly and custard blush says I. Preggo lady asks, preggo lady gets. Am very lucky.

He even jumped me this morning so am in very fine fettle. I think as we get closer to the 36 week cut off (which is the date I'd be allowed to birth up here on the island, any earlier and I'd be helicoptered south) he's relaxing. Lets see if the prostaglandins work some magic. Am so fecking sick of feeling like a dugong when I try to turn over in bed. 35 weeks on Monday whoop!!!!

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 11:32:03

That is lovely lane as it took effort, not just putting their hand in their pocket.

You are a very lucky lady YW

Off to google benedict cumberbatch as I am very old and clearly out of touch.

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 11:39:57

Woo VQ he's posh totty... slightly odd looking but tres endearing. I would! grin sadly in my current state he'd outrun me with ease.

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 11:40:02

fuck - i want some bloody jan rolly polly and custard! I dont even know if you can get ot over here - no way would i be able to make it from stratch!!

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 11:40:46

Benedict is a lovely name

StuntNun Sat 13-Oct-12 11:44:21

Speaking of Benedict Cumberbatch, and therefore Sherlock Holmes, has anyone else seen the trailer for Elementary on Sky Atlantic starting in the 23rd? It's an American version starring Johnny Lee Miller as an American Sherlock Holmes and Lucy Liu as Dr Watson. A weird way to mix things up but could be interesting if they use the original stories as their basis rather than it just being some kind of spin off rip off idea.

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 13-Oct-12 11:46:35

Don't speak too soon DH I had mine on the Friday afternoon and was skipping around on Saturday saying to DH "I don't know what everyone is going on about I eel nothing" then Sat night cam up in massive red lumps and Sunday, Monday super sore.

Beginning of my girls weekend! Boys deposited at Heathrow. Is very quiet here! Except for the moment the girls had a mad moment with the birthing ball, screaming it's great without William here! Poor old DS.

I will miss them.hmm

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 11:47:34

So Benedict seems to have the thumbs up then.... Thank you for your input. Mr Cumberband looks a bit too posh for my liking. A bit of dirt, crew cut and stubble, possibly. I am still in love with Indiana Jones.

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 13-Oct-12 11:50:27

Benedict s defo a thumbs up. DD2 was Gabriel Benedict but she was a she so got the Violet Forence instead.

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 12:00:32

ooow love Violet! cute.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sat 13-Oct-12 12:00:47

Morning all! Stunt sounds like things are happening perhaps!

Lane I know how you feel. Will feel stranger on Monday when I dont get up and go to work. DH wants me to turn off my blackberry but that may be a step too far for me just now.

We have lovely sunshine today so lots of washing done, walk to the shops with DD who is getting quite well behaved on her reins, then we have made an apple cake!

On the name front, I think, I hope, I have persuaded DH to go for a "normal" first name, and have agreed to a quirky/unusual middle name. Now just to agree on what those two are. We're still ages away from actual agreement, but to have some agreed parameters in place feels like a bit achievement!

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 12:05:28

Violet is mega cute. Had this been a girl, she would have likely been Hope.

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 12:09:57

aww Hope, I love that as well.

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 12:12:41

Hope is one of my favourites too - but it just doesn't work with our surname. Curses.

Who suggested the nameberry website? It's awesome thank you so much and apologies for my dreadful short term memory xxx

sophia nooo don't say that! At least it wasn't next weekend when I've got my baby shower and a christening. Going to be knackered!

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 12:14:11

Bollocks I have a tomato stain on my top, I seem to drop food all over myself every time i eat. Argh. Fingers crossed it will magically come out in the wash smile

ComradeJing Sat 13-Oct-12 12:22:33

Had a rather exciting day here. Got our house at auction and then took DD to the botanical gardens to celebrate. My totally painless BH then became rather uncomfortable, slightly painful and very regular. I was totally freaking out. Seems to have quietened down now but I'm keeping my legs crossed just in case.

Little9 Sat 13-Oct-12 12:26:46

Hello ladies. I hope you don't mind me threadcrashing briefly. Just wanted to personally thank you for all your congratulations and best wishes. It's early days (only 4+2- can't believe I'm here again - already started the perpetual knicker checking and off chocolate - damn it!!). We were on a mission Stunt!!! Anything to stop me franticly decorating, although at least my house looks fresh!! grin

Anyway, I will leave you all to your babies and bumbs - haven't read back so don't know who has had what, when or still to come. I see you can all still talk/type for England ;)

Take care ladies, and good luck!

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 12:29:01

Yip sorry DH my WC jag was fine for about 24 hours and is still slightly tender to the touch 1.5 weeks later. Got a call from the surgery to drop in for my flu jag on Tuesday - no appointment needed. I feel like retorting 'there now that wasn't so hard was it?'.... grin

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 12:31:25

comrade congrats on getting a house! what was the auction like? scary?!

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 12:32:15

Yeah Little!!!!! Lots and lots of love to you, your DH and your bellydweller. We're all knicker checking too - but now for different reasons. It's very odd to want to see something in yer kecks.... but I'd love to see my mucus plug right now (well maybe not right now, as DH has gone fishing). Good luck hon - keep us updated xxxxx

daisychain76 Sat 13-Oct-12 12:33:36

Morning, love the name Violet. If I‘d had a girl it would have been Eliza. Well, baby came home yesterday and it is great. Both older Dcs seem fairly smitten which is a relief as apparently dds 1st reaction when he was born was ‘buut what am l going to tell my friends, we wanted a girl‘. Main issue now is to do some emergency trouser shopping -stupidly never occurred to me that below the bump stuff would be sore after a c section (on that note, whoever recommended big granny pants is a life saver!)

daisychain76 Sat 13-Oct-12 12:34:00

Morning, love the name Violet. If I‘d had a girl it would have been Eliza. Well, baby came home yesterday and it is great. Both older Dcs seem fairly smitten which is a relief as apparently dds 1st reaction when he was born was ‘buut what am l going to tell my friends, we wanted a girl‘. Main issue now is to do some emergency trouser shopping -stupidly never occurred to me that below the bump stuff would be sore after a c section (on that note, whoever recommended big granny pants is a life saver!)

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 12:34:28

Little9 you are not thread crashing. You are always welcome here x so very happy for you and I wish you an extremely boring dull pregnancy x

jing buying a house at auction. How very exciting! Never been brave enough for that.

daisychain76 Sat 13-Oct-12 12:35:05

Oops, double post ~ stupid phone!

Lane81 Sat 13-Oct-12 12:37:02

Benedict is a lovely name, it's definitely be in my list if I was having a boy.

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 12:41:04

So having a Billie and a Ben is not too cruel then? Billie is a Wilhelmina, which helps possibly?

GTbaby Sat 13-Oct-12 12:45:33

In for my daily monitoring. They got me in a labour room today as triage is full. Weird being in here. Not cosy at all. I'm now classed as high risk. So a little scary.
This time tomorrow ill b here to have the baby!

Ps. I so badly want a jam rollypolly, just told hubby we have to go tesco on way home. grin.

blonderthanred Sat 13-Oct-12 12:45:49

We're all delighted for you Little. Lots of love.

Iheartpasties Sat 13-Oct-12 12:48:59

gtbaby ((hugs)) i hope all goes well today. Enjoy your jam rollypolly (im vvvv jealous)

VQ are you thinking about Bill and Ben the flower pot men?

Congrats little fab news! I wish your pregnancy well and can't wait to hear from you when he/ she is here!

I quite like the name Dougie for a boy, not that we're having one and dh prob wouldn't like it anyway!

Baby has just perked up finally after having a v quiet afternoon/ eve/ night/ morning I was starting to worry but she's just had a wiggle around.

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 12:58:19

pasties. I am. I am old.

GT hoping you are soon in post-natal having lots of lovely newborn snuggles x

ComradeJing Sat 13-Oct-12 12:59:38

little Best wishes for your pregnancy. As VQ says, here's to an easy and boring one!

Iheartp I didn't go! DH is in WA and I couldn't face a toddler, being pg and an auction so we got a pro bidder in who spoke to DH on the phone during the auction. HUNDREDS of people turned up to watch, 10 registered bidders including 2 pros (ours and another one) and one lady who walked through the house during the pre auction inspection and decided to buy it on the spot. The only people who ACTUALLY bid was our bidder, the other pro bidder and that lady.

DH got interviewed by the SMH via phone and it will all be in the paper tomorrow. shock We really just bought it cos it was a lovely home - had no idea of the level of interest!

ComradeJing Sat 13-Oct-12 13:00:22

Goodluck GT!

Night all... way past my bedtime now!

daisychain76 Sat 13-Oct-12 14:12:53

Gt good luck for tomorrow. Lovely to think you‘ll be cuddling your little one soon and all the stress will be a distant memory. Random thing but if you are not keen on internals/they are trting to break your waters don‘t forget to ask for gas and air. It makes all the difference.

Many congrats little9 that is great news.

horseylady Sat 13-Oct-12 14:58:09

My big horse is called hope. Or monster, or moose. A lot depends on how she's behaving!! Then again all my pets have human names. Apart from fat cat!!

I really like Benedict!!

Congrats little really pleased for you! Here's to a boring pregnancy!!

Right I've just agreed to work tonight, now I've sat down everything hurts!! Bloody typical!! Think I'll go for a quick ride and then have a bath.

Good luck tomorrow gt as well!!

Good luck GT just think of the end result and how amazing it will be to hold your baby in your arms. So jealous!

How lovely to have him home daisy

Evilwater Sat 13-Oct-12 15:18:58

little huge congrats. I hope it's a long and boring pregnancy for you.

I can't believe it's been a week with nicky. We have had our first outing today, to his great grandma, he was asleep the whole time. She was very thrilled, and he looked super cute. I have pic somewhere.

I'm expressing in to a bottle and that's going fab. He is taking it all down, and his weight is now 6 pounds. DP bought a dummy, as he has started to cry for comfort.

Any one got any opinions on dummies?

horseylady Sat 13-Oct-12 15:30:46

Evil ive read about them, research by the companies shows it reduces SIDS by 0.01% than those who don't use them.

I don't plan on using one in the early days as I plan on breast feeding and don't want confusion nor to tire the baby by him suckling constantly. However, my thoughts were if he started thumb or finger sucking, to replace that with a dummy, as a dummy is better than fingers!! I don't yet have a baby though lol!!

Really pleased things are going well for you! Great to hear he's growing and eating well!! How are you feeling?

georgee Sat 13-Oct-12 15:33:37

Hi Evil, sounds blissful with little Nick, so pleased for you.

With dummies I'm of the philosophy 'whatever gets you through.' DD is a thumb sucker but I will have a dummy on standby for DC2. The only disadvantage with them is that if they're sleeping with them and they fall out they sometimes wake up and cry for you to put them back in, which can be a pain. Obviously you don't get that problem with thumbs! Although our problem now is that DD has a permanent callous on the top of her thumb because she sucks it so much. And I don't have any idea if/when she'll stop. Her father still sucks his thumb when he thinks I'm not looking.

Evilwater Sat 13-Oct-12 15:36:44

At the moment, tired. I'm waiting for him to settle, but it will probably take a few hours, at which point ill need to feed him again. confused

He keeps trying to eat/ suck his arm and hands after I've feed him, I'm not sure what it means.

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 15:56:02

If any hormonal ladies would like a good wibble - have a read of this amazing blog My Amazing Maisie it details the struggle of a wee lass called Maisie born at only 25 weeks back in May - she has just gone home from the NICU! (The same hospital my wee niece was at). For anyone who wonders why I rant about our media's trivialising the difficulty of having a prem (Eastenders grrrrr), and for all of us to be thankful that our wee ones have held on so far into the third trimester - have a read of Maisie's heartwarming blog (by her very devoted Daddy) and be thankful for modern medicine.

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 16:00:01

Evil I've got some dummies hidden away in a drawer just in case Junior needs them. It's one of those things I think that you think you won't use, but when you're pulling your hair out in the middle of the night - it's worth a try. None of our four nieces and nephews were big fans of them - but I'd give them a shot if needed. As horsey says better than sucking thumbs as they're easier to wean off accidentally lose

Evil my sis said to mention about a low dose of calpol to the health visitor (it's not recommended for such a young baby) but sometimes giving a tiny dose to a baby that's had ventouse or forceps can really help with their latch if it's a head ache that's bothering him.

Well done on having your first day out!!!!

kirrinIsland Sat 13-Oct-12 16:00:47

Lovely to hear from you little congratulations once again, and here's wishing you a straightforward pregnancy

congrats on the house comrade smile

evil glad you're getting on well, and I agree with georgee on the whatever gets through philosophy. DD has a dummy and it was a life saver in the early days - saved my sanity as before I gave it to her I was the dummy. Will try not to with this one, but if she needs to she needs to. And it is probably easier to get rid of a dummy than a thumb, although I am still getting up at least once a night to put it back in for her and she 20 months! Guess there is no right answer - just whatever works for you.

VQ Benedict is lovely, and Billie and Ben is fine too - it's only us oldies that will think of flowerpot men grin

Evil sounds like you're doing a fab job with Nicky! smile I also have dummies of both shape tucked away and will happily use them if needed, I never needed one with DS1 and although I tried giving one to DS2 he wouldn't take it at all, so don't sweat it, whatever makes life easier for you all.

I have a whole carrier bag of junk food that I'm munching, I finally slept all night with 1 tramadol, I do feel guilty taking it knowing baby will get some but the pain got the best of me and bring reduced to sobbing continually was not nice for anyone.
It won't be something regularly done though I just needed to sleep and the relief. It has left me feeling a bit weak and woozy today though but baby is very active and seems quite happy in there. smile

I'm having Chinese for dinner tonight round my mums, sooooo can't wait grin

Wow evil a week already, that's gone quick!

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 16:23:43

Woo tits dummies of 'both shapes' - I didn't know there was more than one shape!? blush What's the difference? I've just got some bog standard ones from Boots

tits it sounds like you are taking the right approach. Don't feel guilty - you're taking this on docs orders and don't forget when you are unmedicated your stress hormones will also be discernible to baby so it's not a black and white case of good vs bad. A good nights sleep sounds like it has done you both good.xxxx

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 16:25:08

DH Chinese on the island is minging. I am officially very envy. Enjoy! It's our fish and chip night, we've got a DVD and I might even have a cheeky glass of wine I reckon.

Also.... I've not got out of my jammies all day blush

By both shapes I mean the cherry soothers and the flat teat ones. Only because my nieces and nephews all had dummies and some would only take one variety and some the other.

Thanks, I'm using my sensible head about it, the dr wouldn't have prescribed it if it was going to harm little one and my other children don't need to see their mom weeping in pain so we're all much happier today, DP is happier too because he's not seen me sleep so peacefully in months. smile it's amazing what a decent rest can do.

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 16:35:03

I'll have to go and see which ones I've got - ta for the tip tits.

yw ill have some on your behalf then! Enjoy your fish and chips smile

TheDetective Sat 13-Oct-12 18:01:45

I am making DP his own birth plan of things he must do when I am in early labour.

None of this hand holding back rubbing crap, he has to hoover the living room, wash the dishes and check we have cake/tea bags/milk grin Oh, and he has to make sure he has had a shower, and I've remembered to shave my legs and pits!! I do have to come up with a safe word for him to use though, as per my hypnobirthing. It's just that every word seems to conjure up the wrong kind of images. Or if I find a good word, I get the giggles when DP says it coz it sounds kinda funny in his accent!

I am absolutely convinced this will be a night time labour, but I don't know why? When ever I think about things, I think about being in the dark with candles on, DS asleep upstairs. I have a feeling I will have a baby in the small hours! Probably completely wrong!!!!

2 down....2 to go! 37 weeks today smile

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 18:12:28

I'm convinced mine will start at nighttime too - I suppose statistically most do - but DH is convinced it'll start whilst he's at work. The upside of me potentially being in hospital for six days means I'll have lots of time to issue orders for cleaning the house after ready for our return, he can live like a slattern whilst I'm not there grin

TheDetective Sat 13-Oct-12 18:26:39

Do you know I realised I have no way of contacting DP at work!!

I have never rang him at work, and I know they don't accept personal calls! In fact, I'm not sure how I would get through?!

I probably should have thought of this before today!!!!!

Duuuuuh! Last time it started when ex DP was in work, and I rang up, and he shit a brick haha!!

I have decided that needing a clean home is a definite downside to a home birth!! Not that you need it to be clean, but when you have a bit of OCD about people coming in to your house when it is anything less than spotless, it's kinda a pain!

Crispy duck pancakes, chicken in black bean sauce, chicken chow mein, chicken satay mmmmm ill be the size of a hippo in about 45mins!

If mine starts when DP is at work I'm likely to be going it alone. sad

We have the dilemma of it likely to be quick if the last one is anything to go by. If I call him at work and get through, it will take him 2 hrs minimum to get here, but I know if I phone him he will drive like a lunatic to get here, however much he promises not too I know he will out of excitement/panic.
So if things suddenly happen quickly do I call him knowing he is risking himself/others by driving like a madman and risking his licence.
Or do I not call him and instead call my sisters or MIL and have him miss the birth of his first child?
He isn't even sure which he'd prefer and I'm not either. Obviously I want him there but I know I'll worry if he's driving at stupid speeds to reach me.

He's all cuddly when I'm in pain, I really don't like it, I'm trying to drum into him that I know he wants to take the pain away and protect me but really him bring in the room is enough. I get panicky and claustrophobic when people touch me if I'm in a lot of pain.

TheDetective Sat 13-Oct-12 18:41:27

Me too Tits. I don't want to be touched, or talked to really. I'm a bit noisy when I'm in pain, but that is my coping mechanism. I hate it when anyone starts asking me if I'm ok, can I do anything to help etc.

Mardy cow!

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 18:45:03

Well, I thought things had settled, but took DD1 to a party in the next town and went shopping. Just wandering around at my leisure, but had the oddest pains and thought the world was gonna fall out of my fanjo. Eased up now I am home. Am tempted to do the whole shagging the pineapple thing just to get it started as the stop and start feeling is driving me potty. Grr!

SwissArmyWife Sat 13-Oct-12 18:48:47

Well, think mine may have already started, as i'm pretty certain i've been having contractions since about 2 this afternoon (while walking around shopping - typical - although I did get some boots from debenhams that were reduced from £75 to £22)
Anyway they've not really been predictable so i'm not too worried, I didn't have any from about 4 to 6ish, and they're very short, i'm hoping it's just the baby pushing his head down really hard but it feels the same as it did when my labour started with DD so who knows!!
Will see how things go tonight/tomorrow! DP has been rushing around packing things - and thankfully suggested getting the carseat out of the wardrobe as that hadn't even crossed my mind, whoops! I have shoved a big bar of chocolate in to my hospital bag in preparation. grin

horseylady Sat 13-Oct-12 18:48:53

Vq when I was riding I had the sane feeling!! Very very odd. Stopped now.

SwissArmyWife Sat 13-Oct-12 18:49:33

VQ sorry for xpost! Having the same feelings here -gulp-

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 13-Oct-12 18:49:56

Pleased things seem to be settling down for you evil and you have managed to get out.

I have managed three children without dummies. Never missed them, never had to wean them off them so woudn't know. Don't actually have major opinion either way but I know I would be a bit irritated if I kept having to get up in the night to reunite child with said dummy. A friend of mine recommends This thing, I think called slumber bear, which has the dummy in one hand so it is easy to find from JoJo to help minimise this.

Had a bit of a shock today, me and girls were walking down the platform of the station and someone came up behind us and leant over DD2 grabbing her then falling on the floorshock. My first thought was someone was trying to steal her, then I worried they were having a full on collapse and tbh I was more worried about the impact on DD2 than the woman. Anyway the silly woman was looking up at the signs and not watching who she was falling over. DD2 was ok about the whole thing but I was really shaken up. Then I started worrying if the shock could have an effect on the baby but it booted me all the way home so think it's ok.

Girls night in, Strictly Come Dancing, hot chocolate and cookies. In pjs grin

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 18:52:09

swiss Nothing like a contraction or two to help with the packing and preparation! Good you got your boots!

horsey I can only imagine what it would feel like to be on a horse! You do amaze me!

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 18:57:24

sophia not nice, especially on a platform! I hope you gave her a piece of your mind! I hate it how some people just do not see kids. I had a couple of folk almost fall over the pushchair today.

Has anyone had problems with zebra crossings? I seem to be invisible, even though I am huge. Even when I am right by the crossing and clearly planning to cross, cars just blast by, even with a pushchair. I guess they think (correctly) that I am slow at moving.

SwissArmyWife Sat 13-Oct-12 19:04:17

Definitely VQ , he's been in a panic all day, at this rate i'll be the one telling him to bloody breathe!

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 13-Oct-12 19:19:17

vq Do they sell maternity high vis? I bet horseyhas some.

YellowWellies Sat 13-Oct-12 19:36:22

Swiss gosh good luck - you too VQ.

Actually swiss speaking about popping some chocolate into her hospital bag reminds me - we're allowed to eat whilst in labour (I know some hospitals frown on it), and ok I know I might not fancy anything but can anyone recommend good snacks for your hospital bag to keep both my and DH's energy levels up?

So it's GT's turn tomorrow. Who will be next I wonder? Not much happening here but only 35 weeks.

Day 1 after finishing work and the nesting has begun. I want the whole house sparkling from top to bottom and I'm tackling it one room at a time. Today I've done most of the kitchen and been testing out the dishwasher so it's been on about 4 times already, I've been shoving everything in it grin

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sat 13-Oct-12 19:43:14

apple me too! DD and I spring cleaned our wardrobes this afternoon. Will tackle some serious cleaning when DD at nursery next week.

Good to hear from you evil. After saying I would never use dummies, DD still obsessed with hers at 20 months. She was a very sucky baby. I go with whatever works.

swiss and vq how exciting!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sat 13-Oct-12 19:44:33

Oh, and DH knows that not only must I come home to a pristine house, but my bed must be made with clean sheets.

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 19:46:23

sophia do you mean high visibility jacket things? If so I bet horsey still fits in her regular ones. I shouldn't need a high vis jacket in daylight though, surely.

Talking of fitting in regular stuff, my two pairs of matching pjs still fit me, even around the tum and boobs. And the trousers I am wearing to go into hospital and come home are my pre pg ones, admittedly stretchy. Still less than 1/4 st weight gain. I am pleased. Who would have thought having a baby would have kick-started my weight loss?

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 19:47:32

Neither of mine would accept a dummy. I have a finger sucker and a thumb sucker. I wonder what boy will suck?

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sat 13-Oct-12 19:52:05

vq that's good. I am also atill in pre-preg trousers. Am pretty sure will have lost weight overall after delivery, but that's not greatly impressive given my starting weight. The main thing for me will be not to wallop if back on after birth, like I did with DD. must be the only person who loses weight when preg, and puts it on when breastfeeding blush

blonderthanred Sat 13-Oct-12 19:58:16

I'd heard that dummies are recommended to reduce SIDS - I think they encourage the baby to breathe through its nose? I've bought a couple of TT Closer to Nature ones but am also keen not to interfere with establishing breastfeeding so will wait a while.

My sister threw me a baby tea party this afternoon, I said I didn't want a shower as I didn't want people to feel they had to bring presents, so instead people brought songs for me to listen to in hospital. DSis is a great party organiser so we had lots of games and a lovely tea. I feel very lucky (also exhausted).

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 13-Oct-12 20:02:02

Will be thinking of you tomorrow GT

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 20:07:03

Me too madame.

I fit in my pre-pregnancy jeans but they dig in around the waist so I wear maternity ones because they're more comfy. They still fit perfectly on the legs though so that's good.

kissyfur Sat 13-Oct-12 20:17:53

Good luck to GT, VQ and swiss ! Exciting smile

Lane81 Sat 13-Oct-12 20:18:47

Gosh swiss we're due the same day! (I think), I'm totally not prepared for early labour! Though I am sure I will be late.

Good luck to both you and VQ hope you are holding your little ones soon!

ValiumQueen Sat 13-Oct-12 20:37:07

Wow apple jeans are impressive!

I really do not know if anything is actually happening. I wish I could pee on a stick and it tell me when it is kicking off.

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 13-Oct-12 20:44:55

How frustrating vq and swiss. Try and relax and not think about it, time for a wine perhaps? Keep the updates flowing!

SwissArmyWife Sat 13-Oct-12 21:14:50

Same here VQ it is a pain (literally) I would just like to either be in labour or not!!
Well no contractions since I last posted, now sitting in bed and baby is really pushing down (which hurts) and wriggling a lot, has been very active all day actually which is a little unusual, he usually wakes up at night.
I don't want to give birth yet, I haven't made it to 37 weeks which means I wouldn't be able to go to the mwu sad

lane I do believe we're due on the same day, 9th Nov??

GT all the best for your induction tomorrow, Hoping things go smoothly for you smile

I think I was cursed by a sales assistant today. She took one look at me and said "gosh you've not got long left have you?" I replied, "no, four weeks" she then laughed and said "oh you don't look like you'll make it that far! My son was born three weeks early"
Cheers for that then!!

SwissArmyWife Sat 13-Oct-12 21:16:12

Sorry - MWLU even!

Passmethecrisps Sat 13-Oct-12 21:56:21


How lovely to hear from little!

evil congrats on your first outing - how exciting!

I'm a do what you need to do kinda gal when it comes to dummies. Someone have us 6 of them so we are well prepared.

Got back from parents - DH is totally knackered from trying to decorate the whole house. I am knackered from being up for a wee every single hour.

I am incredibly impressed by those who can fit in their pre-pregnancy jeans. I haven't tried but I know my bum and thighs have got chunky as I can see it. That's where I carry more weight anyway so it would make sense.

stunt sorry, you mentioned your wee boy the other day after I asked and I didn't respond. I am hugely sympathetic to the change a diagnosis can make. Suddenly things make sense and you can stop blaming yourself. I am endlessly frustrated by the bad press parents can get for 'wanting a label'. What parents need is reassurance and support - if a diagnosis gets this then so be it.

swiss you as well?! All this action is super exciting!

I will be thinking of you GT. You are so close

Elizadoesdolittle Sat 13-Oct-12 22:06:38

If this baby turns out to be a boy it will more than likely have James as a middle name. No real reason, I think it just flows well between the first name and our surname. There are no family names I like apart from my DH's but he doesn't want his name to be our (potential) DS's middle name. He thinks its a bit attention seeking, I think he's being daft!

Can't recall the posters name who said about the night feeds but thank you! I have to say I had been sort of dreading them this time round as I can't rest during the day like I did with DD. But it's so true in that its a special time and will be my chance to spend time alone with DC2 so I shall view it like that from now on and actually look forward to it. Remind me of that when I'm pulling my hair out at 4am due to constant feeding grin

StuntNun Sat 13-Oct-12 22:08:43

Thanks Pass when DS1 was referred for autism assessment I asked the educational therapist what advantage there would be to having a diagnosis and she said they have specific techniques and programs that they would use to help him overcome the difficulties he was experiencing. It also gives the school something they can understand.

Evil before I had children I had a very low opinion of dummies. But when DS1 was born he was always unsettled until you put your little finger in his mouth to suck. He couldn't find his own thumb. Once he was given a dummy he was much happier. Now we know he requires more sensory stimulation than most because of his ADHD, indeed he still always has something in his mouth now age 9. It wasn't too hard to wean him off the dummies, it just requires a good plan and a lot of willpower. DS2 on the other hand, he sucked his middle two fingers from day one and wasn't remotely interested in the dummy. Every child is different, you just play it by ear.

Evilwater Sat 13-Oct-12 22:21:58

It's sounds like thier might be some more babies on the way! I can't wait to hear from you all.

Thanks for the info about the dummies.
We are getting the medulla swing electric pump as my wrists are getting knackered, It should arrive on Tuesday.

Tomorrows plan, out for a walk around the park. If the weather holds.

jenbird Sat 13-Oct-12 22:28:44

Wow this thread goes so fast.... so a blanket congratulations to all those who have good news and good luck to those whose news is imminent.

I am only 34+4 but I am so fidgety today. The baby has been doing proper somersaults all day, I have had bump ache, back ache and fanjo pain. The thought of another 5 weeks of this is driving me nuts. My waters have always gone as a warning sign so I am not worried that it will happen soon. Not ready for a baby yet, haven't got anything ready and have a decorator, builder and plumber coming next week to sort the house out so can't have baby for another few weeks at least!

On labour starting times - is it more likely to happen at nighttime?? I hope so as my hb works a good hour away and I am slightly worried that if it starts in the day we won't make it to the hospital which is also a 45 min drive away as I have fast labours. Waters went at 18 00, 02 00 and 04 00 with previous dc's.

We have boys names sorted but no girls names. vq love the name benedict. Love Violet too but we have a friend with a violet so it's no.

Anyway back to crap Saturday night TV. We are considering watching the Total Wipeout we had recorded for ds. It must be bad!

horseylady Sun 14-Oct-12 00:01:11

Nature makes it more likely for you to start in the evening as you relax and feel safer. Sheep, horses, pigs, cattle etc are more likely to start then too.

Yes hi viz still fits but it was massive to start with lol!! I'm huge!! My bump literally doubles in size daily although I couldn't keep my maternity jeans up today and had to resort to a belt!! which is odd as last week although big weren't falling down.

Am shattered, just finished work.... Off to bed night!!

GTbaby Sun 14-Oct-12 00:48:19

Safe to say I'm bricking it blush. Can't sleep. Dreading internal exams. So thanks for tip on gas n air, blush to I can't remember who. Dreading it all tbh. DH telling me it will b ok is not really helping. Well I don't know what would help. Just feel so out of control. Just wana stay in bed n hide sad.

I know I'll have my baby soon. But I can't really see past the birth at the minute.

Iheartpasties Sun 14-Oct-12 01:51:20

gtbaby oh bless you. Dont stress too much. Good luck.

Good luck to everyone who is having labour pains, I'm a bit jealous, I'm ready to have this baby now. And I'm in the same camp as a few others as I'm not too sure what will happen if it all kicks off during the day with regards to DH getting home etc. I'm hoping for a lovely early morning labour, not the middle of the night though (can you hear me baby?!!!). You can never picture how it will happen or when though so I must learn to stop focusing on it so much.

DonnaDoon Sun 14-Oct-12 05:24:18

So pleased to hear about Little another one here that still thinks of Daisy x
I have graduated to the other thread with Evil and cant wait to see more of you there soon...I will continue to read this thread tho....But just wanted to say to all of you especially VQ Detective Stunt and many others lol THANKYOU FOR A WONDERFUL JOURNEY...I m so happy with my lot ( and emotional ) and I wish you all the greatest love and luck in the world...PS I Still dont want talk about the birth yet because it wasnt the one I wanted but my daughter is here safe and well and Im grateful for that xxx

Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 14-Oct-12 07:20:05

gt keep remembering is just a day or so, really try to relax and hit that gas and air. Don't be worried about asking for more ain relief just do want you need to be comfy and feel safe.

You will be brilliant and we're all routing for you


kirrinIsland Sun 14-Oct-12 07:27:50

Good luck GT I can imagine you are nervous, but try and focus on the baby at the end of it; and your nerves will probably subside once everything gets going and you have something to concentrate on.

And good luck to those of you with early signs - hope it either settles down or starts properly!

I'm off oop north today - 300 miles from home. I'm taking my notes and a token baby gro just in case. more of a tempting fate thing than a belief anything will actually happen - if I have them with me I won't need them, right?!

Good luck gt will be thinking of you today, can't wait to hear news.

georgee Sun 14-Oct-12 07:50:53

Best of luck GT, I'll be thinking of you too! x

ValiumQueen Sun 14-Oct-12 08:03:40

donna I too did not have the births I wanted, but I could not wish for two more wonderful children. The birth is just baby exiting your body. I wish I had realised that sooner. It is important to process what happened and acknowledge that it has affected you deeply, but it is also important to see the beautiful baby in front of you x I do hope you heal physically mentally and emotionally very soon x hugs x it has been a pleasure travelling with you to thus far, but we have a long journey ahead of us too!

GT you are in my thoughts my dear. Wishing you all the very best to you and DH x

ValiumQueen Sun 14-Oct-12 08:04:27

Safe journey kirrin

blonderthanred Sun 14-Oct-12 08:29:09

Good luck GT!

StuntNun Sun 14-Oct-12 08:31:05

YW for snacks for labour

Apple if I have a small dishwasher load, e.g. I wash the pet food bowls separately to our dishes, then I put the oven shelves in on top. It softens that black crud that attaches to them over time and makes them easier to keep clean.

Evil the Medela Swing is supposed to be really good, it should make things much easier for you. There are support threads on MN for pumping mummies which would be helpful on how to keep up your supply, what times of day to pump, etc.

Donna sorry to hear your baby's birth went a bit differently than planned. Make sure you work through it as you don't want to end up traumatised by it. In the end though, the birth is only the start of your baby's life and it will soon be overshadowed by the joys, the ups and downs, the victories, and the growing love in your family that follows.

Thechick Sun 14-Oct-12 08:34:13

Hello all. I keep popping in and out of the thread to see how everyone is doing. We are both fine. Baby Holden is still in the scbu but hopefully will be home this week. He's not feeding well, but his blood sugar is where it should be and he was a little jaundiced. But he was born at 34 weeks so to be expected. im having a few issues producing milk. pumping every three hours, which is no fun. We finally bought stuff and had it delivered yesterday which is quite exciting, the baby has a place to sleep when he comes home. Donna looks like we had our babies on the same day, I'm really sorry that you feel the way that you do. If its any consolation, my first birth didn't go according to plan, not that i really had one, but this one, I knew what to expect and got my vbac, yay!! I will write my birth story on the other thread. I really want to get it down before I forget. I feel like I'm forgetting things already and it was only a week ago. Will put it on post natal in a couple of days. Hope all is well with everyone.

StuntNun Sun 14-Oct-12 08:39:02

Sorry YW missed a bit, I'm not trying to keep you in suspense! I have bottled water with a sports top and a big Burger King straw as well, Lucozade, soft sweets (you don't get much time to eat between contractions so you need something you can eat quickly), Tracker bars, Peperamis in case I need protein, sherbet lemons for DH. It's a bit random as I only wanted things that didn't need to be kept cool as if they were in the fridge I would forget them. Hopefully I won't need much except the drinks as this is my third but if I am kept in for any length of time before or after the birth then at least I'll be able to supplement the meagre hospital food. Apparently your OH isn't allowed to bring in fish and chips or a pizza for you.