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November 2012 - counting down the weeks

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StuntNun Tue 25-Sep-12 23:33:48
Catbag Wed 26-Sep-12 07:33:44

Ha, marking place! Also, I am counting hours, not weeks. If I have to think about this pregnancy in terms of weeks, I may become hysterical sad

StuntNun Wed 26-Sep-12 07:36:04

Poor Catbag! Do you get random strangers coming up to you asking if it's twins like everyone else does?

ShellyBobbs Wed 26-Sep-12 09:40:14

Hello new thread. Wonder if Evil will give birth during this one?

Marking place. I feel so far behind, evil is 37 weeks?! I'm 32 how is that fair?!

MissMummy1 Wed 26-Sep-12 10:32:01

Marks place - DH21 I'm 31 weeks tomorrow!! sad

NervousAt20 Wed 26-Sep-12 11:16:57

Aw catbag I'm sure you won't have long left

Marking place

missmummy when is your due date?

MissMummy1 Wed 26-Sep-12 12:59:38

29th November. I must be one of the last in the group!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Wed 26-Sep-12 13:51:21

Marking place.

Belgrano Wed 26-Sep-12 14:03:52

Hi ladies, been away for ages but done some lurking. 35+3 now. DC3. Just waiting and counting days! Varicose veins are so painful though so come on d-day!

LittleLolly Wed 26-Sep-12 18:19:26

Marking place. I'm 35+2 now. I'm betting we have a few babies by the end of this thread.... And hope mine is one of them!! grin

33+5 and more than ready to go, although bizarrely 3 people today have commented on how tiny my bump is. hmm I'm not sure if they're being nice or its changed overnight! I was getting nothing but "wow you're huge!" Last week!

DebussyHead Wed 26-Sep-12 20:04:42

Another thread already?! Where have I been?!! Must catch up wink

ValiumQueen Wed 26-Sep-12 20:21:19

Marking. 29 sleeps to go. Wish it was less.

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 26-Sep-12 21:43:30

I'm here 34 weeks today!

blonderthanred Wed 26-Sep-12 21:43:43

Hello new thread.

Counting down is right. Three more days at work, twenty-seven till induction... so much still to do!

YellowWellies Wed 26-Sep-12 22:15:01

I'm here 32+2, and am in two minds wishing for October to fly by because I'm sick of the discomfort now - and also half of me is thinking WTF..... wahhhhhh A BABY I'M NOT READY YET....

So I'm going to try to enjoy the last few weeks of pre baby life as it's never going to be the same again is it?

Kyzordz Wed 26-Sep-12 22:18:38

Marking place, am 33 + 4 and spending alot of time feeling uncomfortable! Would quite like time to fly by but on the other hand I don't feel very ready! Still haven't packed my bag and I haven't sorted out half the things I wanted to have had sorted! I suppose I'd better get cracking with it all

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Wed 26-Sep-12 22:22:07

Marking my spot!

kirrinIsland Wed 26-Sep-12 22:27:16

Marking place.

34 weeks and counting!

Dixiebell Wed 26-Sep-12 22:32:50

Wrt sleeping, DS was in with us for 5/6 months, first in Moses then in cot. But I always took him through to nursery to feed on chair in there, so as not to disturb DH too much. I found that easier as I could switch light on in order to see what I was doing, adjust latch etc, change nappy (at least once!), and stay awake for what could be hour-long feeds. Often DH would get up and do nappy first then leave us to it and go back to sleep, I felt only fair as he had to get up at 6.30 and do commute. That worked best for us and by time we moved him into own room, he wasn't doing middle if night feeds.

I am only just 31 weeks too MM. I haven't bought any new clothes for this one, still need to get baby clothes down from attic!

Dead right to enjoy last few weeks, YW. DS is 2 next week and tonight for the first time ever he was put to bed by someone other than me or DH (Nana!). All went fine! And on Sunday will be our first night away together without him. So yes, make the most of being a couple while you can!

GTbaby Wed 26-Sep-12 22:46:45

Count down at 35 weeks n 2 days. At 37 weeks I'm gona start every "hurry up baby" technique I can find grin. Sick of shooting pains in my pelvis ever time I move when trying to sleep. sad. Don't know how I'll feel when pain is replaced with crying baby lol

kissyfur Wed 26-Sep-12 23:00:09

Marking my place, 32+2 today! Not long now til I get to hold my little one

Iheartpasties Thu 27-Sep-12 04:20:54

Im 34 + 2!!

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 06:58:26

Other thread now full.

daisychain76 Thu 27-Sep-12 06:58:44

Hi all, thanks for the lovely messages. New Ds is called Huey (spent time while being inducrd trying to agree a name, dh liked Hugh but l thought it didn‘t suit a tiny baby/toddler so suddenly Huey came up out of the blue).

He is still neeeding a lot of help breathing, but improving gradually and l think they are going to try him on breast milk today (they give some sort of glucose thro a tube at first). I am expressing every 3 hours and feel a bit like a dairy cow smile

Sat waiting to be reviewed by dr as blood pressure has gone up again ~ think someone messed up and l just disn‘t get any meds to control it rather than a gradual qithdrawal yesterday, but all the. other meds had given me a bad stomach so wasn‘t in a fit state to query it. Hoping today will be less eventful!

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 07:04:32

daisy we are told the BP sorts after delivery, but it does not always happen. Sorry you are still having trouble. Hope you are soon sorted. Huey is very cute, and different too. Will you still have Hugh on the birth certificate? We think we are decided on Grayson. Apparently MIL likes it, so that is ok then hmm so much for not telling anyone, so I told my mum too out of spite grin and she approves. Makes a change as they refused to call DD2 by her name for months.

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 07:06:38

And daisy well done for being a dairy cow. Every little drop will make a difference. Hope it is not long before you can feed him directly, as it is much more fun.

StuntNun Thu 27-Sep-12 07:20:46

YW it will not be the same, it will be better! If you don't have kids already you won't believe how much love you can have for them. There's nothing more beautiful than a sleeping baby, and you end up just gazing at them while they're asleep.

34 weeks today, that's still ages to go isn't it? Baby's clothes are in the washing machine now but he still has nowhere to sleep!

Iheartpasties Thu 27-Sep-12 07:30:27

I leaned over in the shower this morning and was sick, yuck.

daisy lovely to hear an update from you, sorry if you were feeling rough yesterday. Huey is a very cute name, i love it!!!

horseylady Thu 27-Sep-12 07:33:28

Daisy hope things get better!! Lovely to hear from you!!

35 weeks today!!! 11 days left at work. Though my insides feel battered today after he spent all night kicking my insides!!

Iheartpasties Thu 27-Sep-12 07:35:56

and boo to the flooding in the Uk at the moment, sounds awful.

Lilliana Thu 27-Sep-12 07:53:52

Just caught up on the last thread and now late for work! Marking my place and will be back later.

Iheartpasties Thu 27-Sep-12 08:17:37

Dh came back from work early today because I said I was feeling sick. He's good most of the time, he only pisses me off when I am in a mega bad mood, and at the moment this can happen all the time! A big black mood will just descend on me blush.

Anyway I was in a massive strop yesterday and went to bed early and was in a foul mood all day really. Argh. It started because our tenants have spit up for the second time and they are both putting the letting agent in the middle - they both want to keep the house and turf the othe rone out!! yikes. When I was pregnant last time out tenant stopped paying rent and we had to evict her which took ages and ages and we lost about 2 thousand pounds!! argh!!

Lane81 Thu 27-Sep-12 08:39:07

Marking place, went to Cornwall for a week and missed a whole thread! 34 weeks and counting!!!. Congratulations daisy!

kissyfur Thu 27-Sep-12 08:39:17

Morning all

Lovely to hear from you daisy hope you start to feel better soon, love the name Huey smile hope little man continues to improve and you get to feed him directly soon

Sorry to hear you are having tenant troubles pasties and hope you feel better soon

Detective what buggy liner did you get from John Lewis? I still haven't found one. Could do with getting a few more bits sorted out this weekend!

Iheartpasties Thu 27-Sep-12 08:46:23

thanks kissy, just feels good to moan on here and get it off my chest smile

YellowWellies Thu 27-Sep-12 08:48:01

Aw thanks for the reassurance Stunt - good to hear when you hear so many tired and knackered parents going 'bwahahahaha just you wait, it'll all change, bwahahahah' etc

Daisy hope your BP is sorted soon - sounds like little Huey is being a trooper and well done you on expressing. Fingers crossed you'll be home soon as a little family before you know it xxx

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 27-Sep-12 09:01:46

Cute name Daisy.

We're no further forward with names, although DH has come up with his most traditional suggestion yet, "Rufus James". I don't loathe it the way I have loathed most of his other suggestions, so waiting to see if it grows. He has thankfully accepted that if one name is more unusual, the other name should be very traditional, but wants whatever more unusual name we agree on to go first - I of course want the opposite, am trying to persuade him that "Thomas Sebastian" sounds very nice. So more negotiation required...

33+6 today, and 12 days left at work, taking me to 36 weeks. Intending to finalise bag packing shortly, and will do the other bits when am finally on leave. Meeting with consultant next week to finalise birth choice/plan. Am expecting to agree a section at 39 weeks if no spontaneous labour prior to then.

The countdown really is on though!

So pleased to hear little Huey is improving daisy and I hope you start to feel better soon as well.

That sounds tricky pasties. Are there any children involved?

I spoke to DP again last night about sleeping arrangements when the baby is here. He made the suggestion of a sofa bed in the baby's room but then when I said I want him next to me but will take him out of the room as soon as he wakes up he agreed smile I need to get a mattress and bedding for the crib at the weekend then baby shopping will be complete. I need a hospital bag as well and I'm bidding on one on ebay at the moment which will be ok for a changing bag after.

We were laying in bed this morning and DP had his leg resting against my stomach which baby didn't like so he started kicking. DP said he didn't care then two seconds later moved his leg grin That's how soft he is really.

Elizadoesdolittle Thu 27-Sep-12 09:09:23

Nice to hear from you daisy glad all is well with little Huey.

I'm 33+3 today. Whilst I'm pretty much ready for this little one to arrive now I'm in no hurry for them to. In fact I will be happy to go a couple of days over due. I might not feel like that in 6 weeks time though! I'm very lucky in that at the moment apart from a few general discomforts that come with having a huge bump, I'm feeling pretty good.

YellowWellies Thu 27-Sep-12 09:11:54

Madame I LOVE Rufus James - sorry to side with your DH but hey Rufus is one of the oldest names in the English language - so you could argue that your DH is putting the traditional name first? I know a couple of adult Rufus' and they are lovely blokes.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 27-Sep-12 09:19:46

Thanks YW, I know what you mean, and its probably a lot less uncommon than it once was, but am still getting my head around the idea of a name that's not MY first choice iyswim blush - I clearly have a massive sense of entitlement when it comes to naming DC grin

I understand how it could be difficult to name your child something you don't love. I had started to get used to the idea of giving my son a traditional Persian name to please DP and his family but they all preferred the other name I had chosen anyway so that settled it. Luckily it is the one name in the entire world that DP and I both love grin I have no idea what we'll do if we ever have another boy.

Limpit80 Thu 27-Sep-12 09:41:36

Wow! You ladies sure can talk! smile Seems Ive missed a whole thread! I have been reading, but since going back to work, I just need to go to be soo early, so never get round to posting.

Congrats to Daisy - what a lovely name! We are still going back and forth with ideas at the moment, Ive gone off most of the short list, but thinking of Felix for a boy and maybe Cecily for a girl.

Madame - I know exactly what you mean, I cant get used to the idea of not using my first choices, but OH just doesnt like them.

WRT sleeping, we have bought a baby bay from ebay (just remembered I still need to get a matress for it!). Planning to have the baby in with us til he/she outgrows it, and we get round to buying a proper cot! What were people's views on using the pushchair carry cots for naps? My friend has a crib to give us, so we could use that instead, but I dont want to be overloaded with sleeping apparatus if I dont need it!

I only have 11 days left at work, but have been off sick today and yesterday, as I have a terrible cold. I feel so guilty, as I never take time off work, but I just cant function!

StuntNun Thu 27-Sep-12 09:46:57

Madam I love Thomas Sebastian - it's so classy. Not so sure about Rufus James but once they're named you usually couldn't imagine them having any other name. The exception being my cousin Nick-short-for-Raymond because his dad changed his mind after he'd registered the birth! Seriously, how many people do you know who don't suit their name? With so many people choosing what would once have been considered 'weird' names for their kids, there is a gradual change going on in society where eventually noone will blink an eyelid if you tell people your name is Angel or Trilby or Zebedee!

YW I think there's a difference between the day to day struggles if new parents with nappies and feeding and changing your clothes twice a day because baby projectile vomited on you, and the overarching relationship with each child. We all moan about our OHs on here but I guess we really love them despite the snoring/untidiness/irritating parents or we wouldn't stick with them for long. Your love for your child is much stronger than that again. I heard a good quote once, 'I would die for my husband but I would kill for my children', that about sums up the depth of feeling.

MissMummy1 Thu 27-Sep-12 09:56:08

Lovely name Daisy. Glad he's doing well and hope your bp stabilises soon.

YW people are so keen to fill our heads full of horror stories and negatives and tell us 'how hard it will be' or 'enjoy your social life while you still have one'. It angers me so much that people just want to sap any amount of joy from the whole experience that I've started saying to certain people 'If you've got nothing positive to say, say nothing'.

DH ended up staying with his sis and BIL last night. I'm not impressed that he put them out because he was an idiot and drank too much wine and missed his last train. They apparently found his drunken banter quite amusing....

I woke up with the worst heartburn i've ever had in the middle of the night. So much so I felt really sick. Discovering at 2am you have used your last rennies tablet is no fun - I was all set to drive to a 24hr tesco it was so bad!!

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 09:59:19

My hubbies got man flu! I walked in last night after 3 and a half hours of driving round to different clubs, gymnastics etc. and in 5 minutes he told me 3 TIMES that he had a cold (he was sniffling in the shower)! Grrrrrrr envy so I flushed the toilet and put the hot tap on full grin. At 1am I got up to the toilet, I could hear foil being broken, he was taking a paracetamol because he had a sore throat (he had been breathing through his mouth all night) and then used MY WATER to rinse it down with, so I then had a glass full of lurgie germs. Then for the rest of the night all I've heard is 'oh god', 'oh god'! I'll oh god him if he starts that again tonight, I might just tip something down his throat while his gob is open (thinking expandable foam).

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 10:00:16

Daisy Thanks for the update. Hope all goes well today with your beautiful little man and the breast milk and hope your blood pressure comes straight down.

MissMummy1 Thu 27-Sep-12 10:02:33

Shelly I think you have just summed up any man with a slight ailment. Precisely why evolution dictates it's women who go through pregnancy and labour. Men are most definitely the weaker sex!! grin

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 10:05:21

Ohhh MM I have giant swigs of Gaviscon before I lie down, it's awful. My doctor has also prescribed me a humongous bottle that I'm getting today, it works for me and lasts right through the night. 'Tis good stuff!

As for all the bollocks people say about kids being pains - what a load of shit! When mine sleep out, me and hubby just look at each other and say 'is this what it's going to be like when we're older?'. Hence the fact I'm now pregnant again grin. It is hard when they are first born, but that soon pails into insignificance, the love you have for your children is like nothing else on earth.

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 10:06:58

MM But couldn't you just kill them! I'm going to buy a spare quilt today and sleep on the settee, when he asks me why I'm going to tell him it's to save his life grin.

kirrinIsland Thu 27-Sep-12 10:07:13

Lovely name daisy -glad he is doing well. Hope you get your BP sorted soon.

My nesting has finally kicked in! Spent the morning sorting through clothes and will tackle some cleaning as soon as DD goes to sleep.

capedcrusader25 Thu 27-Sep-12 10:23:40

Hi all smile De-lurking after a couple of months but I have been keeping up to date with everyone. I was just so busy going back to work - too busy I think as I then ended up in hospital for a week sad
Congratulations of baby Huey! Such a cute name and I'm so pleased things are on the way up.
33 weeks today, she's breech and isn't showing any signs of moving at all!
Hope everyone is well smile

MissMummy1 Thu 27-Sep-12 10:27:20

Shelly I've been known to go to bed before him when he's 'dying' and leave a spare duvet and pillow outside the door with his pyjamas. They soon get the message! I'm not mean, but when mild hayfever is self-diagnosed as swine flu I have little sympathy!

Thank you for your kind words re kids ruining our lives! I hope we are like that too.

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 10:44:52

Oh shelly that made me laugh so much my bump hurt! And I really needed that as I was in floods of tears when I sat down to read. Thank you thanks

No need to be concerned, just had a difficult morning -DD2 up in night, then up early, DH with a cold so cannot do anything and feels really ill, me needing to get everybody everywhere on time, and then meeting with Head Teacher. Why is it that still at age 43 that is such a terrifying prospect?

Meeting went well. Lad is not statemented as that is not applicable in Scotland, but he does have additional support and is on some 'thing' which is graded 1-3. It was very helpful to talk things through, and I am happy that they are doing their best to safeguard my daughter, and are very clear that if anything else happens, then I will not accept anything less than him being moved to another class. They were most apologetic that he assaulted her when his1:1 person was fetching his bag. She feels awful apparently. The class teacher came to the meeting too which was good. I was glad I did not cry (I tend to when angry - most annoying) but dissolved when I came out.

Going out for a coffee with DH so we can talk, inbetween his jobs.

Am finding it quite hard to breathe, even when sitting, so glad I am off to see MW this pm. It is not the normal fat bird breathlessness, and I suspect there is a bit of anxiety in there. Just want to be sure my wee and BP are fine.

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 10:50:18

Glad it's sorted VQ, you've had a right night of it and then this meeting looming, no wonder your hormones got the better of you! Fingers crossed that nothing else happens with this lad now.

Not another hubby with a cold! Pity we can't ship them all somewhere until the little pets are feeling better envy

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 27-Sep-12 10:57:54

Glad you are feeling supported by the school VQ. And am sure anxiety is v normal (for want of a better word) given what's going on. Good think to get checked out though, especially if you know you're susceptible to pre-eclampsia symptoms towards the end.

Shelly that is so funny - why are they so PATHETIC? DH is beyond pathetic when marginally ill. Whereas I am constantly told to "man up" when I make the slightest reference to pregnancy occasionally having a physical impact. I think because I am a big fat lass who is still in pre-pregnancy clothes and doesnt entirely look pregnant, despite being almost 34 weeks of a robust build and constitution, he forgets that actually, it is somewhat of a physical process for me.

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 10:58:23

Oh yeah, and after all that, this morning he was asking me about the baby's head being so low and causing all the usual pains, pissing, swelling and the rest of it. He said 'can't I massage it back out'! Two guesses what he was wanted to massage it out with ewwwwwww, dream on Adonis, you've got a LONG wait until you get that again my friend!

So moral of the story, man-flu can affect and almost paralyse breathing and can inflict mortal pain when moving head on very soft pillow, can rupture throats and cause snot to burn skin. But 'victim' is 'still up for it'!

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 11:00:25

Madam A swift kick in the balls will cure him of that attitude, blame it on the pregnancy hormones grin.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 27-Sep-12 11:00:55

Shelly, even at his most pathetic, my DH still insists (TMI alert) that a blow job is the recommended cure for whatever he is suffering with.

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 11:01:59

Ewwwww, I used to do that years ago when I wanted stuff, but now he can feck off. He's not had one of those for years!

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 11:02:29

Where as I'd rather go for a sex ban!

Iheartpasties Thu 27-Sep-12 11:03:39

I dont think my tenants have kids - that would really be uspsetting (for them all). They did split up a while back and then got back together agaon so this time who knows!!

VQ your meeting with teh HT sounds good. And I hope you LO gets better after a visit with eth doctors.

Men with colds!! wish they could just do it quitely!

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 11:05:39

Right, I'm off to go and buy a guitar and ukulele, see you later ladies grin.

YellowWellies Thu 27-Sep-12 11:10:07

Go VQ awesome news hon!!! And the prize for most random status of the day goes to shelley - ukelele?

Iheartpasties Thu 27-Sep-12 11:17:56

yeah - ukelele??! :S

GTbaby Thu 27-Sep-12 11:47:03

Morning all. Still in bed and can not be bothered to get up blush. Been awake for an hour. Must get up if I want to get my pedicure today! And must get on with my knitting. I'm 5 squares into my 25 square blanket. Started 2 months ago, n with one month left I better get a move on.

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 12:33:16

Having had a lovely coffee with my wonderful DH (Git) I am no longer feeling so happy about the schools response, as it is all about this boy, and not about my daughter. DH rightly says it is all about our daughter. He doesn't care what the plan is to integrate the boy, he wants to know what the plan is to keep our girl safe. He also says that them saying she is being targeted by him as she is so nice and caring is saying it is her fault, and it will not be long before she thinks it is her fault. He is going to email HT over the weekend and we will arrange another meeting. I wish he could have come with me this morning. Feel a bit as if I have been placated and manipulated, but where do you draw the line between trusting the professionals and getting tough?

Off to MW soon. Hopefully I do not have an hours wait like last time. Need to de-fluff first, in case she checks my ankles.

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 12:41:01

About the realities of being a parent -nothing, absolutely nothing can be said to prepare you for just how much you will love this little scrap. It may take a while for that love to happen or grow, but it is the biggest bestest ever love there is. It is so awesome that it is actually quite terrifying, because you will naturally think if I love them this much, how would I ever cope if anything happened to them. You love them so much it hurts, but over time it kinda balances out and is bearable and just 'is', but then something happens to threaten them, illness, injury, etc, and you are right back there. Your life will never be the same, but you would never ever ever swap back, even with the cracked nipples, stretch marks, lack of sleep, lack of money etc.. The love you have for your parents, siblings, partner, pet, is nothing compared to this. Often mums are worried they will not love a second child the same as it is so very strong, but you do, like one candle lighting another, and another. They all glow equally bright. Awesome!

kissyfur Thu 27-Sep-12 13:01:48

Very well put VQ You made me well up a bit there!

Aw VQ that has made me very tearful. I can't imagine what you mean as I am not a mother yet but I feel so much love for my 2 babies that sometimes I feel like my heart will burst. I feel so protective of them and would do anything for them. Scares me to think how much more that love will grow once they are born.

Good luck with sorting out things with your DD. Be strong and don't let them placate you.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 27-Sep-12 13:08:28

Funny you should say that VQ, one of the things that crosses my mind is whether I will ever, ever, be able to love DC2 as much as DD. I'm sure I will, but until he is here, I just cannot imagine how anyone, ever, could be that dear to me.

Just marking my place while I catch the end of the last thread smile

blonderthanred Thu 27-Sep-12 13:14:17

My mum said that - she couldn't imagine how she was going to love a second child as much as she loved me, or how her love was going to 'stretch' round us both, but then she suddenly found she had a whole new amount of love - it was like her heart just expanded. Her friends have now told her how amazing grandmotherhood will be and she can't imagine that either, but she's looking forward to finding out!

kissyfur Thu 27-Sep-12 13:14:38

I feel the same madamgazelle I am sure when I hold this baby in my arms I will feel a big rush of love but right now I can't imagine loving anyone as much as I love my little DD

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 27-Sep-12 13:14:52

In completely unrelated news, am struggling a bit to be a good friend to someone TTC. She has been a friend since we were 11, and has always wanted children. It's not happening for her. Unexplained infertility. In the time she has been trying, I have conceived accidentally with DD and then immediately with DC2. A third friend has just announced her first pregnancy, just a few months after her wedding. Neither of the two of us pregnant ones had burning desires for children when we were younger, just assumed we would want them eventually.

Fairly naturally, our friend has withdrawn a bit from us. She wrote to me to say she feels horrible for doing so at such an important time in my life, and feels like she is being crap, but it is a self preservation thing. I am sad for her, and sad that due to my circumstances I cant be there for her the way I want to be/would normally support her, as she's always been a rock for me. Guess I cant do much than express this, and perhaps occasionally get in touch and not mention pregnancy/DC, and otherwise leave it to her. Anyone else ever been in a similar sort of situation with any bright ideas?

blonderthanred Thu 27-Sep-12 13:36:18

MG, I had problems ttc, although fortunately only a year but I wasn't ovulating during that time so it was a real worry. Anyway having been on some of the support boards on MN, I know for a lot of women it can be particularly difficult to hear about someone else's ease of getting pregnant, even though they know their life isn't perfect either. All I would suggest is doing what you have said, letting them know that you understand why they feel like this and that you will always be there for them and will try to be sensitive about the issue.

The feelings can come in waves, particularly if the person ttc has lots of pg announcements at the same time, so she may find that her feelings lessen or her genuine happiness for you starts to overcome her personal sadness. You don't need to lose touch but they will probably need some space at certain times. It's a good sign that she's faced up to the situation and written to you. Hopefully she will be successful soon and you can all enjoy your families together in the future.

My DP is coming down with the sniffles, poor love hmm he has snored solidly for the past couple of nights!

I had to go into the school today, DS2 is in yr 1 and a group of yr 3 kids have been laughing at him about his stutter, we had almost got it under control but these little darlings have caused it to kick in again. angry I am sooooo not impressed!!!

I am feeling generally ok as far as pregnant ladies go, although I've developed the shakes which is odd, no clue why.?!.

I'm trying to summon the energy to decide what to make for dinner ... I can't say I'm getting far!

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 27-Sep-12 13:54:27

Grrr in the hospital waiting for a growth scan, first one here for this afternoons clinic with earliest appointment but loads of people being called in before me. I have to Go back to work as is my last day! It really is frustrating, they wouldn't like it if I was late.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Thu 27-Sep-12 14:09:55

I've just tried to pack mine and babys bag for the hospital. Tried being the operative word. Mine won't close and baby's is only just shut. I don't feel like o have overpacked but think I may need to minimise and just get DH to bring the rest in once baby is out!

GTbaby Thu 27-Sep-12 14:12:27

Pedicure not as relaxing as I'd wished. Pelvis hurts sad. Oh well, no pain no gain.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 27-Sep-12 14:14:06

Thanks blonderthanred, good to hear from that perspective.

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 27-Sep-12 14:14:21

Of course once I start getting into the thread I get called . Typical. Anyway I saw No Names face!!

She thinks is about 5lbs now, so if we base it on 1/2lb a week that makes it around the 8lb mark at 40 weeks, with any luck, let's hope the head measurement comes back ok.

I now have to hang out in antenatal to see the consultant.

horseylady Thu 27-Sep-12 14:16:23

Madame - I went out recently with a couple who are ttc. Obv they know were pregnant but I felt the female was very off towards me. It took us 4 years to create this little one, but because we never went on about it, I think they feel we've cheated them.

To be fair, I got fed up of hearing people's wonderful news, but hey! Thats life, there will always be things others have that you don't. I'm not convinced removing yourself from people is the way forward as there will be a time (hopefully!) that you will be in that sututation and need people around you who have been through it.

Infertility must be horrendous, ESP if that's all you want from life. We never made it a life goal, we've never really had a life plan as you can guarantee something, somewhere will mess it up.

I'm not really sure how to suggest handling your friend, apart from with sensitivity. Just remember the problem stems from her- not you xx

Finally caught up on the threads.

Consultant and scan appointment went fine yesterday after all. It seems this baby is going to be a bit of a porker shockwink
From the scan and measurements it's currently measuring 4lb 10.5ounce, at 31+5 weeks! Its growing on the 90th percentile so if it carries on the same it's looking at 9lb 5oz at 40weeks! shock
I was thinking it would be a little thing seeing as I haven't put much weight on and my bump, although big, is all on the front with no weight elsewhere. Now it looks like it's going to be a big one grin I'm definitely swaying towards it being a boy.
The consultant said I can go the MLU which is good. They've booked me an appointment for when i'll be 39+5 so induction won't be discussed until then, which is good. I'm hoping the big measurements will mean i'll already have had it by then anyway smile

Had my 31 week midwife appointment last Friday, she looked at my blood results from 28 weeks and my iron was low. Nobody had rung me, the results had just been filed. She's prescribed me iron tablets but I should have been on them 2.5 weeks earlier angry Looked at all the symptoms for iron deficient anaemia and no wonder I've been feeling like absolute crap, it explains the tiredness, weakness, palpitations and lots of other things. Just waiting for them to kick in now so I can feel less dead smile

I went shoppng to Meadowhall with DH and DSis yesterday afternoon, I think that was a mistake. By the time i'd got home my pelvis and pubic bone were hurting so much after being on my feet for so long. I was in agony last night and today i'm not feeling great so I've used a days holiday and spending the day lazing and watching tv.
I've got tomorrow down as holiday but may go in depending on how I feel. I finish 3 weeks today but with days off i've got planned I only have 10 full days and 2 half days to work grin

Oh, huge congratulations to Daisy on the birth of Huey!

I wonder which one of us will be next?

I can't imagine what it must be like to ttc for years and nothing happening. It took us a year to conceive this baby and meanwhile I knew several women who had fallen pregnant by accident and it was heartbreaking. Outwards I would be happy for them and congratulate them but then go home and cry myself to sleep. Thinking about it now I feel quite guilty for moaning about feeling bloated etc when this is what I've wanted for so long and what so many women want but can't have. We need to count our blessings. Just let your friend know you are there for her whenever she feels ready to talk.

So upset this afternoon and trying to hide it at work. I mentioned a while ago about my cousin who has leukaemia. Before he got it he had fallen in with the wrong crowd and got heavily into drugs. There's now reason to suspect that he's using again sad I don't pass any judgement on him because I can't even begin to imagine what he's going through but if it's true then it won't be long before he ends up dead. I don't see how his body can cope with the cancer, chemo and drugs on top of it. Gutted.

I can't imagine what it must be like to ttc for years and nothing happening. It took us a year to conceive this baby and meanwhile I knew several women who had fallen pregnant by accident and it was heartbreaking. Outwards I would be happy for them and congratulate them but then go home and cry myself to sleep. Thinking about it now I feel quite guilty for moaning about feeling bloated etc when this is what I've wanted for so long and what so many women want but can't have. We need to count our blessings. Just let your friend know you are there for her whenever she feels ready to talk.

So upset this afternoon and trying to hide it at work. I mentioned a while ago about my cousin who has leukaemia. Before he got it he had fallen in with the wrong crowd and got heavily into drugs. There's now reason to suspect that he's using again sad I don't pass any judgement on him because I can't even begin to imagine what he's going through but if it's true then it won't be long before he ends up dead. I don't see how his body can cope with the cancer, chemo and drugs on top of it. Gutted.

Dixiebell Thu 27-Sep-12 14:53:31

Izzy, there could be lots of moving around the hospital to different rooms, so def pack another bag to leave in car and get DH to bring it up once you're settled in antenatal ward!

Tits, could shakes be low blood sugar/hunger? Or perhaps low blood pressure? Hope they go away soon, but in meantime have a biscuit biscuit. Also, funny you should mention your DS's stutter, I was going to ask people on here what experience they have of them. My DS is 2 next week, he has been a good speaker since he started, what a year ago? And been talking in very fluent long sentences for the last few months. Just last week, literally overnight, he suddenly started stuttering. DH and I both noticed it separately. It's not lots, but seems to be more so on certain letters at the start of words, so he's saying things like 'mmmmmmmmy tractor' 'i'm going to h h h h hide'. And the other day he literally couldn't get out any words beginning with the sound 'a'. So we were talking about his friend Adam, and he was saying 'I play trucks with um, um um, um' and also i gave him some apple and he could only say 'i like um um um um', then just gave up trying to say it altogether, so the sentence went 'I like um don't I?'. We were walking home from CM at the time of talking about Adam, and he stopped and sort of stood on the spot really trying to get the word out, bending his knees and concentrating really hard. It was sad to watch. Once he got really frustrated and kind of shook his head like he couldn't understand what was happening. So I just wondered if anyone has experience of this, and what sort of age it started? He seems so young, I'm hoping it's just a development thing maybe, his brain is faster than his mouth, but it seems strange that literally the day before he could say all these words no problem.

DS has always had a stammer, he tends to either struggle on the first letter/sound of a word or occasionally he'll elongate the first sound rather than rapid repeat, so rather than "mmmmmmum" we'll get "mhuuuuuum" iyswim?

We've seen a speech therapist and tbh at 2 you won't need to worry at all about that as most children grow out of it quickly. DS's is though to have been brought on by his twunt of a father family issues and the various problem associated, so really any big changes, upset etc.
the key is to ignore it, don't give it a name or try to finish sentences for him, just be patient and let him finish what he is saying.
The other key thing is not to ask questions so he doesn't feel like he's being asked to perform.
Rephrasing things is the best way so rather than - "Hi DS, what did you do at school today?" This becomes "hi DS, Mummy has has such a fun/boring day, I've done x,y,z" this is Supposed to encourage them to volunteer information and to choose to talk rather than feel they have too.

I hope that helps a bit, my DS's was almost gone after a month of doing the above but since going back to school it's really started up again.

Of course if you're still worried you can speak to a hv or a Nursey teacher. smile

Dixiebell Thu 27-Sep-12 15:15:13

Thanks Tits, I think I'll give it a couple of weeks and see what happens, whether it gets any worse. I do ask him lots of questions, thinking it's good to encourage talking, at not yet two he's not really likely to volunteer info like what he's done during the day! But will try and be aware of not doing that too much. Also read to slow down my own speech so will try that too. Hopefully it'll go as suddenly as it came, but it was a bit of a shock when he woke up one day and suddenly couldn't say things he could say easily before! Hoping that the prospect of a new baby is not disturbing him more than we've perceived too, but I really don't think he understands what it means that mummy has a baby in her tummy.

NervousAt20 Thu 27-Sep-12 15:32:04

Very nice to hear from you daisy hope they get your medication under control soon and Hugey is a lovely name

Been into town and feeling abit worse for wear now, haven't felt LO move today so just sitting down with a cold drink and hoping she'll have a wiggle

horseylady Thu 27-Sep-12 16:08:12

Aibu? Theres a leaving do next fri for five members of staff including myself. I work in a supporting department to the main one but get on with all in the bigger department. I asked what was happening about s leaving do as there were several people leaving together and it was agreed to do a big joint one next Friday as it was a hood date for numerous reasons. Now it's a buffet thing where they've had leaving dos before etc. I've not been.

Now a few staff in my department couldn't make that for numerous reasons so I said we'd go for a drink and a quick bit a week Tuesday to get together just in the pub. Straight after work nothing formal just a team outing for me going but coming back? I've kept it to the team I work in as it's small and easy, plus there's the big leaving do for the three who are leaving and the two of us going on mat leave. One of the staff organising it has just a right go at me about having two and reducing numbers? I only did it as some couldnt make the Friday in my team so it seemed fair! Plus we have a lot of new staff on our small team who wouldn't go to the big meal out.

I feel bad that I'm having two leaving dos ESP after asking what the others were planning but my team going out is more important to me than the two departments? I will add that when the others leave they will go after work for a drink which I don't think is any different to what I'm doing IMO!! I just iffy ally termed it a leaving but coming back do..... I don't know what to say!!

I've just been back to bed for an hour! But now I really need to do something, we've got a family party to go to this evening. Going to run a bath and hopefully find some energy from somewhere.

Can anyone recommend anything to give me a boost? A cup of sugary tea? Fruit juice? Dynamite up the bum? I'll try anything wink

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 16:19:34

Ukulele ordered and paid for grin (so is the guitar).

ShellyBobbs Thu 27-Sep-12 16:21:47

Horsey Tell her to keep her trout out and the drinks things is just for friends so obviously she's not invited.

horseylady Thu 27-Sep-12 16:29:21

Shelly smile

NervousAt20 Thu 27-Sep-12 17:19:12

No horsey I don't think it's you BU, take shellys advice grin

TheDetective Thu 27-Sep-12 17:27:29

Horsey, it is your leaving, so it is up to you what you do. Tell her to keep her beak out!

Kissyfur It is this one! The other one was this one, I played around with both, and got the one that would be more useful to me! Both were equally gorgeous! It's just that this one is more suited to the swinging chair/bouncer as you can thread the straps through. The other one is more for the cot/moses basket as no holes for straps, but you could easily do it yourself. I'm not using mine in the pram, maybe the car seat at first, but the liner for the pram is comfy enough! I did try it in the moses basket, and it looks fab too, so best of both worlds!

I'm off to another high school open evening tonight, of my preferred school. Then I have a 10.5 hour night shift straight after... booo!

All I really want to do is sleep! Zzzzz!

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 17:33:16

horsey YANBU. You can do what you want! Not sure how to react to it, but you will be off for a long time so if you piss anyone off, they will forget before you go back.

Well, took DD2 to DR as planned. Infected clitoris (ouch) and possible UTI and/or vaginitis so on antibiotics and urine sample sent off. Doctor asked if there was any chance anyone was doing things to her. I said of course not, then after processing what he had said, asked if he thought that was the case, if there was something in the examination that made him think that. He said no, it was just a possible cause, and that it was highly unlikely to happen in a nursery environment. More likely that she is fiddling, although we have not observed that. I was reassured, but still upset at the thought of someone hurting her.

I told DH and he was so upset, as he says that put him in the frame. I reassured him that I did not think that for a second, but he is still feeling physically sick at the thought of even the remotest possibility of this happening to our baby. (He was abused as a child)

Not the best of days in Valium Palace.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 27-Sep-12 17:37:27

horsey and apple, thanks for sharing your experiences. Will just continue to be as sensitive as I can.

And you're the one leaving, it's up to you. Perhaps just explain its a small team thing planned base team members couldnt make the other one, not a rival do stealing attendees away!

TheDetective Thu 27-Sep-12 17:38:20

I'm just about to strangle the arsehole. If I don't come back, I'm in prison grrrrrrr.

I swear he deliberately winds me up. I'm now going to have to go to the open evening, starving hungry, and won't have time to eat after, or to get any food to take to work.

Just fucking great. He hasn't bothered to get from the shop what we needed. Lazy fucking inconsiderate twat.

If I wasn't wearing mascara, I'd be crying now. I can't believe he can be such a stupid bastard sometimes.

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 17:49:13

Madam I was told I could not have children at 26 after losing one and getting a nasty infection as there were retained products that were not dealt with appropriately. I could not even sit in a cafe with babies around in the early months, but I made friends with a single mum with a 2yo who I just fell in love with (the kid, not the mum) and that really helped heal the wounds. He was the same age as the one I lost would have been.

I managed to move on with my life, which I guess is different to continually ttc and not succeeding, but remember one time when I saw my cousin and she was heavily pregnant with her second child. Nobody had told me as they did not want to upset me. I was more upset that I had not been told, than the fact she was pregnant.

When I met DH I told him about my inability to have children, and we agreed to apply for IVF if we could, or adopt, or foster if that was not possible. We got on the nest as soon as we were married to start the process, and imagine our shock six weeks later when we had a faint blue line grin

I would encourage you to keep her updated, but let her make the moves. Hopefully soon they will be expecting their own little miracle bundle.

TheDetective Thu 27-Sep-12 17:52:29

Feel like a bitch now sad I just can't believe the only thing I needed him to do he has got so wrong. Going to be late for open evening now as sat in McDonalds I'm so hungry. Don't even want it but can't manage another 16 hours without food.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Thu 27-Sep-12 17:54:25

That must have been tough VQ. More good advice, I didn't/ don't want to patronise my friend by pretending I don't have DD and DC2 is about to arrive, but don't want to rub face in it. A hard line to balance on I think. Am keeping fingers crossed for them so much.

TheDetective Thu 27-Sep-12 17:56:34

Oh VQ that is awful for you and DH sad Im sorry that you've even had to think about such things sad

Kids do manage to do these things though with out any such things occurring. So please don't worry xxx

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 17:59:43

apple sorry to hear about your cousin. It is not surprising that at this difficult time he is going back to drugs, as previously they have been a coping mechanism for him on some level. One thing I have found with my clients is that they can be remarkably resilient, and seemingly beat all the odds. I had one client who continued to inject God knows what throughout her chemo, and has a clear bill of health, cancer-wise anyway. Still using. Amazing. All we can do is hope that he gets through it, and also gets free of drugs again. Hopefully he will engage with his drug workers.

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 18:05:57

Yes detective who knows what she gets up to when we are not looking. I still think the likely culprit is a fibre from her fluffy nappies as they shed a lot initially. Hope you feel a bit better after eating, and hope the open evening and night shift go ok. You are not a bitch x

WaitingForMe Thu 27-Sep-12 18:21:01

Just caught up on the thread and can't remember what any of you said so please just imagine thoughtful responses to your woes, joys and updates.

A parcel arrived for DH this afternoon, it was DSS2s new booster seat. DSS2 was so excited and came to ask if I wanted to see it. Seeing him in his school uniform sitting on it just opened the floodgates. He was 12 months old when I started dating DH, I can't believe he's now four and at school. I remember him learning to talk, now he shares silly-Waiting-is-weird-now-she's-pregnant smiles with DH and pats me on the knee!

Marking my spot...

Don't feel too great, hot and cold flushes on and off... been sleeping a lot this afternoon. Will see how I feel in morning whether to go to doctor or not

Passmethecrisps Thu 27-Sep-12 19:12:11


What a busy day for people!

daisy I hope that your meds get sorted soon. Your wee boy's name is awesome as well - very cool.

horsey YANBU at all. You are entitled to go to drinks with whoever you like whenever you like.

apple I am sorry to hear about your cousin. It must be doubly hard knowing he is so poorly.

Detective enjoy every morsel. You cannot go without food for that long.

VQ I am sorry things have been difficult today. I have been thinking long and hard about your situation and what I would do from the school perspective. The rating from 1-3 sounds like the risk assessment we have for certain children who behave in an aggressive or violent fashion. This will be shared with all the teachers in the school including guidance on how to avoid escalation of such situations.

I can completely understand your husband's worry and frustration with the situation. The boy has 1-1 support and it does sound like it will be 1-1 100% of the time. How would you feel about teaching your daughter to be assertive? I am not saying she isn't already but her sweet nature is likely to make her attractive to children who don't get much kindness so she does need to learn to protect herself in a gentle way. Coaching her in avoiding eye contact, turning her back on him if necessary when she sees him and so on could go some way to breaking the illusion he has that they have some sort of 'relationship'. I really do get why your husband is upset about the focus on the boy but in the end, the processes they have set up for the boy are how they will protect your daughter. I always find these sorts of situations difficult because I cannot talk about what the full plan is for the other child so parents inevitably get left in the dark. I tend to end up talking in code or riddles hoping that they can find enough in what I say to be reassured.

Trusting the school and ensuring that your daughter is safe and supported can be a real balancing act. Go ahead with contacting them again and asking for another meeting being honest about your concerns. Be completely up front about what you expect from them and what you will need to do if they cannot keep your child safe. If you feel the need you could put this in writing and copy it to the head of education. You are not blaming the school by doing this but ensuring that you child stays central to your concerns.

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 19:23:52

Thank you pass that is very helpful. Apparently he does not have 1:1 100% of the time, which is what concerns me. He has 'a great deal of input'. I did feel like they were talking in 'reassuring riddles'. It was tricky at pick-up time as they came out together and he was cuddling her, and they were talking about their 'date' tomorrow. He said 'I am coming to get you **'. I thought DH was gonna thump him! She is still too young to understand I think. We talked about it after, and she said she was just agreeing to it to keep him happy.

Passmethecrisps Thu 27-Sep-12 19:33:47

Hmm. They should not be coming out of school hugging - I could e wrong but it does sound a bit like the school don't quite get it. He must be told not to go near her under any circumstances and prevented from doing so if he tries. Equally, your wee girl needs to trust that it I ok for her to say no but she needs to know that teachers will back her up and that if he gets angry because she has said no that they will protect her.. Maybe that's a start for your next meeting. I am secondary but having given this more thought I also think that the school should enure he is allowed out of lesson slightly earlier than the others this keeping both children apart. Only a minute or so but just enough to create a distance. You can only suggest it and see how they respond. All of this needs to be explained to both children so that they know some action is being taken. The boy must see that his behaviour will not be tolerated and that there will be increasing consequences for him if he does not stop. If they don't do this now, imagine him as a teenager.

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 19:36:35

pass if he were bigger, we would have been onto the police by now. Thank you for that. You have clearly given it thought, and I will also think on what you have said. Much appreciated thanks

Evilwater Thu 27-Sep-12 19:55:23

Wow, page five!

Detective- if I were you I eat what ever you wanted, sod the cost. It's a shame you can't charge it to you H.

dasiy- I'm glad you both are doing fine,

Today I've selpt loads, as I've had a headache most of the day. No visual weirdness. Last night I was going to post but we had a power cut for about an hour.

The midwife said things are fine for 36+ 4. My breathlessness is my body's way of telling me to slow down. It's a shame the world can't slow down too.


Evilwater Thu 27-Sep-12 19:57:32

I'm sorry pass, but I have no words of advice. All I say is you are handling much better than I ever would.

ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 20:10:57

evil I was also at the MW today, and she said the exact same thing about the breathlessness and flashing lights - my body's way of telling me to slow down. She said no housework, and DH is to do all the cooking. I have not told him this. Not sure it would go down too well grin my BP was actually quite low, which is reassuring.

Evilwater Thu 27-Sep-12 20:32:32

VQ if my DP did all the cooking I might not have a house left! Or we would be living on take aways.


ValiumQueen Thu 27-Sep-12 20:39:40

My dad learnt how to boil an egg at 76. My mum is a mug, bless her!

YellowWellies Thu 27-Sep-12 20:55:16

I'm just in from aquanatal. I can't help having giggling fits I nearly drowned myself taking in water and trying not to laugh. There is something innately funny about a pool full of preggo ladies waddling and splashing to music and being thoroughly confused by spatial directions and shouted instructions due to baby brain - I think the collective noun for 'aquanatalers' should be a 'pod'! grin

MissMummy1 Thu 27-Sep-12 21:14:02

YW my DH refers to aquanatal classes as 'hormone soup.' Unfortunately I can't find any anywhere near me that fit around work, but if I did I'd probably end up with the giggles. Relaxation time in yoga is hard enough!

Tesco were sold out of all rennies tablets except the orange ones (blegh) so I bought chewy minty tescos ones instead. YUCK! Not only does it taste disgusting but bits of it are stuck in my back teeth (TMI) and I can't get rid of the ucky yucky taste sad.

horseylady Thu 27-Sep-12 21:55:58

Cheers ladies!!

Vq hope both your daughters are ok

Evil glad mw appointment went well, try to slow down--she says do as I say not as I do--

Detective - you are not a bitch, he should have bought food. He works in a supermarket !! No excuse at work or not at work

Yw - I routinely end up laughing at yoga. Mostly because I'm not a believer in balls of energy and looking like a cat smile

Right tonight I need the baby to not attempt to remove my ribs from my sternum. I like them attached. Tonight we were shown how to swaddle and change nappies. We were also told not to let the baby sleep swaddled. So that answers my swaddle question. I also half know the difference between sheets and blankets. I just thought it was the same product. Evidently not. Grow bags are the way forward!!i

GTbaby Thu 27-Sep-12 22:02:05

had a bit of a splurge in tesco. bought a flake cake for work tomorrow, 3 flake chocolate yoghurts, 4 jam and cream donuts , 2 packets of pastilles, one new dairy milk bubble chocolate, strawberry ice creams , 3 magnums.
( as well as carrots, cheese, ham, bread, cucumber). think im craving sugar?
can i blame the fraggle?

GTbaby Fri 28-Sep-12 00:40:37

Can't sleep. sad. Restless n annoyed.
Worked 3 days this week has helped a little but can't manage much longer at work. Have next week as last week. Prob should finish tomorrow but haven't got all hand over stuff ready. So will b very busy getting it all finished n prepped for me going.

Iheartpasties Fri 28-Sep-12 02:02:45

madamgazelle the situation with your friend must be very hard. I can't imagine what it is like to ttc for ages and not get anywhere, it must be very upsetting and I think it is something that can consume you if you are solely focused on it. I suppose it is good that your friend was able to open up to you and tell you that she is finding it hard - that shows you are pretty good friends.

tits sorry to hear that some kids have been making your LO feel bad about his stutter. I hope it gets resolved and that things calm down. Of course it must make things ten times worse if you have a stutter and them people point it out to you.

I must think about packing a hospital bag - I am in total denial

fatima I hope the iron tablets kick in for you soon.

apple sorry about your cousin

dixie hopefully your LO’s stutter will cure itself.

nervous hope your LO gave you a few kicks and wriggles after you had sat down smile

thedetective I would have blown my top and cried if I had no tea and then had to go to work!! Hope you managed to eat something ok-ish from macca’s.

VQthe infected clitoris sounds painful, bless your dd. I hope it clears up quickly. And the stress at the moment must be quite full on, take care of yourself and if the MW has told you no housework and no cooking you must follow her instructions!!!

bluetinkerbellhow are you feeling now?

evil how is the headache now?

mm arf at ‘hormonal soup’ probably very true!!

gt the food you bought sounds lush, i cant stop eating sugar at the moment!

Catbag Fri 28-Sep-12 04:09:17

Just got up again after going to bed at 11:30. Slept for all of 20 minutes, just after one, during which time I dreamed that I gave birth to one of the twins at DDs' school but the other one wouldn't come out, so I was just wandering around with the boy hours later, fielding questions about why the girl wasn't interested in taking the exit. Weird. I then randomly had some sick swiftly move up my throat which led to an epic coughing fit. DH came to bed at 2, but was still awake at 3:30am because he was really excited about some new computer peripherals that he just bought this evening (he is a programmer). I turned over to tell him that I was going to get up and got treated to a ten minute explanation in the dark of the joys of mechanical keyboards, which is obviously what he'd been laying there thinking about. I'm not sure that I am any more enlightened now than I was before he started speaking, tbh.

Sorry to hear about all the stuff that is going on with you all, both internal and external factors. This is a pretty difficult time for all of us, without all of the extra stuff going on. God knows I am sick to death of a) making involuntary exertion noises when just doing something like sitting down, b) the sound of my own voice complaining about stuff (I must sound like a right bloody whinger) and c) trying to deal with and remember about stuff that is going on, requiring attention and brain power that I do not feel that I have available. I expect that I am not alone with that list. Still, there's some sagacious advice being bandied around this thread- we obviously have power in numbers, lol.

StuntNun Fri 28-Sep-12 06:16:34

I do like a mechanical keyboard though Catbag <confused about tech emoticon>

I'm up early worried about the million things I have to do. Being a SAHM is hard work! It must be the nesting, it took me three days to clear up the boys' room. It's not quite there yet but nearly all reorganised with new storage boxes and some toys moved to the loft/charity shop but don't tell them - I mean who needs three marble runs? I have received financial authorisation from the DH to get them new bedroom furniture and have the tax rebate to pay for it grin What do people think about ikea furniture. I priced up a complete set for them (two ceiling height Billy bookcases, one half-height bookcase, two Malm six-drawer chests, a Malm bedside table and a shelf unit for their launch pads (where their clothes are laid out for the next day) at £297 all in white. That seems like a brilliant price but I'm worried it will all fall apart. I mentioned painting their bunk bed white too to match but neither of them liked that idea. My brother and almost-SIL bought ikea stuff for their new house but I don't have any experience of it, although I do know how much damage kids can do so I don't want to get really expensive stuff at this point. The furniture they have atm was bought six years ago from a charity shop as a temporary measure and it is falling apart so something needs to be done longs to be loaded.

So my house is nearly in order so DH will be able to start searching the loft for baby stuff once my exam is over. I have a consultant appointment today so will hopefully get a scan and find out whether I have been poking baby in the head or the bum. My mum is coming for the weekend tomorrow -- with her suitcase packed with teeny baby clothes apparently--. DH is back from Japan on Sunday. And the kids are off school on Monday. So it's exciting times in the Nun household.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 07:22:56

stunt you have chosen well with Malm and Billie. We have five malm and eight billies in our house, in our bedrooms and study and all look as good as new. If your kids are allowed drinks and snacks in bedroom, it is worth thinking about the glass tops for the drawers. White is so much cheaper too. We dot white for DD1. I can also recommend the Expedia square shelves with the various inserts. We have had some of the stuff for 8 years, and it has coped with moving house and being in storage.

Dixiebell Fri 28-Sep-12 07:25:09

stunt, I think ikea stuff is fine. We have the Malm chest of drawers in our bedroom and they're pretty sturdy. I've just bought these cupboards and drawers in green and blue for DS's new big boy bedroom. Currently have about 30 flat pack boxes waiting to be assembled! DS is using them as a road for his cars at the mo so he's happy!

blonderthanred Fri 28-Sep-12 07:25:53

I have a Billy bookcase I bought in 1998, still going strong. Mind you this is my first DC so I haven't had that factor. But it seems fairly solid. I guess it would be a good idea to make sure they're fixed to the wall or in some way unpulldownable.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 07:27:22

The six drawer malm can fit so much stuff in it. Like a tardis. I have yet to find anything from idea that does not last long (except the biscuits)

horsey I am amazed you did not know the difference between sheets and blankets, but I guess that is an age thing. I got a duvet for my 10 th birthday and felt like royalty as nobody had them. When I was small, we had an outside loo, and no TV, and bathed in a tub in front of the fire too..I feel old!

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 07:29:27

Deffo fix book cases, indeed everything to the wall. They make great climbing frames for toddlers we have found. The malm cope well with stickers being put on and removed, and the odd crayon incident.

horseylady Fri 28-Sep-12 07:30:35

I finish work two weeks today!!!!

I've just read in the paper that whopping cough is making a comeback and from Monday are giving preg women between 28 and 38 weeks a jab. I'm seeing the mw on mon so will ask her about it.
Apparently 9 babies below 8 weeks this year have died from contracting it sad

So I've got to have a flu jab and a whooping cough jab??

Lilliana Fri 28-Sep-12 07:39:33

We have the billy Stuntnun and has lasted many many books and a house move but not got any DC so second the suggestion to attach it to the wall.

Had a terrible nights sleep and feeling rubbish this morning. Poor Dh didn't get much sleep either so not expecting a happy house by the time we both get back from work tonight!

Sorry to hear about different peoples problems, both pg related, Dh related and everything else. Hope it gets sorted. (Sorry was going to reply individually but tired brain is not working) Hope everyone has a good day

Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 28-Sep-12 07:45:23

Ikea stuff is fab if you put it together well and tight. If you don't it will fall to bits as shown in my recent house move! I was gutted, I had a lovely massive chest of drawers that I was to proud to ask DH to put together so did myself, and it collapsed enroute to the new house sad and belittled!!

On a good note I feel all systems go after yesterday's scan and baby being an ok size assuming it's arrival in timely, also it's left occupant anterior which ip am reading is just right.

The consultant wantsto see me at 40. Weeks and my plan is to go in with all my bags and demand to be induced if it hasn't arrived lest it have time to get bigger and have to be brutally ripped from my body in the same way as DS.

blonderthanred Fri 28-Sep-12 07:50:01

DH21, I've just posted about this in Pregnancy, slightly concerned too.

I'm still in bed blush and the kids have to be at school in half an hour, and I still need to do lunch boxes! I've woken up with a monster headache although luckily no vision problems this time.
I'm going to stick some joggers on and a hoodie and run them down there then come home and sleep I think.

I had a momentary OMG IM GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE BIRTH TO THIS BABY SOON moment last night. I knew it would some at some point and I think I'm pretty much over it now. grin

12th Oct is my next scan/consultant apt which is good because apparently both local midwife clinics are fully booked until then hmm

I've been buying Xmas stuff online for the past couple of days, and I got the car fully road leak for another year which is good because I can't see another car happening before baby comes along another DP thing he'll get round too no doubt so I'm going to have to transport 3 children and myself in a 3 door Nissan bloody Micra! We'll look like a clown party turning up everywhere we go!

CandyPop Fri 28-Sep-12 08:09:53

I just read an article on bbc website about whooping cough vaccination to be offered to all pregnant women between 28 to 38 weeks. This is in order to protect the baby from the increasing outbreak of the disease.

Any thoughts ?

Lol candy that's what I just wrote! I'm going to talk to mw about it on mon. I don't want to have injections if I can help it.
Also I've had the jab when I was a baby so why am I not still immune from that??

CandyPop Fri 28-Sep-12 08:24:56

Yeah I'm nervous about taking any kind of injections so want to find out more about it. I'm guessing (only guessing) that like the flu jab, the vaccinations changes from year to year due to to mutation of the strand and so previous vaccinations may not be as affective?!

I'm not seeing my midwife for another two weeks so will be interested in why your midwife says next week

blonderthanred Fri 28-Sep-12 08:26:07

I started a thread on the wh cough jab in Pregnancy. It seems even if we are immune, we won't pass that on to the baby so the jab is to boost them until they start to be covered by their own jabs later on. There is quite a good link to the Dept of Health website that someone has posted there.

CandyPop Fri 28-Sep-12 08:26:37

What* rather than why* smile

kissyfur Fri 28-Sep-12 08:32:39

Thanks for the sheepskin liner link detective think I will get one of those too, it looks lovely and cosy, shame they don't do adult size ones wink

We've just got Ikea Malm chests of drawers in white for our room stunt and they seem very sturdy. Although you do have to be careful not to knock them as they mark quite easily, we've got a little dent in one of ours already unfortunately. Would definitely recommend tho!

Oh no not another jab they want us to have!? I had whooping cough as a child, one of my earliest memories is being visited by the doctor at home as I was so poorly sad does that mean I have immunity and won't need the jab do you think? Would happily have the jab if it meant the baby got immunity too. I wonder why it's coming back? They vaccinate kids against it now anyway don't they?

Hope everyone has good days today and those who are feeling worn out get plenty of rest. I've got gymnastics with DD this morning! Should be interesting smile

kissyfur Fri 28-Sep-12 08:34:56

Crossed posts blonder smile you answered my question there, thank you, will ask about getting the jab. Anyone had the flu one yet?

MissMummy1 Fri 28-Sep-12 08:35:23

DH phoned me at half past bloody 6 to tell me about the whooping cough scare because "I thought you'd be awake - you never sleep these days". I'm going to ask mw on tuesday when I ask about flu jab (not got a reminder yet and I get one every year anyway). It sounds horrific the amount of deaths/cases if his waffle was anything to go by. Equally bad is the superbug outbreak on the nicu unit down south, don't know if anyone saw that on the news last night? It's a constant worry isn't it.

My first flat was completely furnished with ikea furniture and bar the sofa (through no fault of its own) it all held up very well. My kitchen's actually from ikea and i'm really pleased with it and I know my dad now swears by ikea stuff as well!

nebbo Fri 28-Sep-12 08:35:41

Hi girls,
I posted in this group earlier in the pregnancy but been a bit slack at keeping up since.
I am in desperate need of some help with names. I am due in November but have been booked in for a c section next week.

The shortlist is: Maria, Isla, Abigail (mostly called Abbi), Elin, Niamh.
I also like: Cleo and Eloise but hubby doesn't.

Opinions greatly appreciated

Yes they vaccinate babies against it but only from eight weeks. All the babies that have died from it this year have been under eight weeks. I'm seeing the mw next friday so will ask her then.

CandyPop Fri 28-Sep-12 08:38:22

the department of health say even if you haven been vaccinated against it before they recommend to have another to boast immunity. The risk is high for newborns as they won't get there first jabs until 8 weeks. By us having it, it says that this will be passed on through the placenta

blonderthanred Fri 28-Sep-12 08:39:59

Kissy I had actual wh cough too, there was a scare with the jab the year I was born (later turned out to be a faulty batch). I would like to know if we are meant to leave a gap between the flu & wh cough jabs or if it doesn't matter if we have them in the same week.

The wh cough one is actually also a combination dip pol tet vaccination as well.

TheDetective Fri 28-Sep-12 08:41:40

Not heard anything about whooping cough - note to self - must keep my ear to the ground for information. We certainly haven't had any info in hospital anyway.

I saw the most perfect birth last night, just thought I would mention it. It was better than text book grin. I want a birth just like she had!

I've calmed down now and apologised to DP for being a stroppy cow, and he has apologised for fucking up smile

Bed time calls.... g'night.

I know of people that have had whooping cough in the last few weeks including little ones so I'm swayed towards getting the vaccine.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Fri 28-Sep-12 08:47:48

nebbo Isla and Abigail are lovely. Sympathy for those without names decided upon as DH and I are struggling to find something mutually agreeable! I have a few weeks to bring him around to my way of thinking I hope!

Interesting about the whooping cough, will ask my MW when I next see her.

horseylady Fri 28-Sep-12 08:55:55

Will ask mw about it wed.

Yeah vq i think I knew blankets are thicker etc. But having only used sheets or a duvet I wasn't sure what you needed or didn't need. Anyway I'm much happier with what we need and how to put the baby to bed. It's been really worrying me the over heating thing, but now I'm much more confident knowing what they should be in and that you can remove layers. I'd bought sheets and cellular blankets - which I knew the difference of!!! It was just normal blankets etc. It's obvious now and I probably did know it was just one of those random things!!

MissMummy1 Fri 28-Sep-12 08:57:10

Nebbo I'm extremely biased and think Isla is a fantastic name!! It was unusual when I was growing up but there's a few of us now and I've taught some lovely Isla's too.

We're sorted for boys. Stuck entirely for girls. DH is adament he likes Katy Rose or Roseanna Kate after our mums but I'm not convinced. He also likes Cally but I went to uni with a ditsy airhead called Cally so the name doesn't have great connotations for me... Any other teachers finding if really hard not to associate names with precocious brats kids you've taught??

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 09:01:19

I also saw the whooping cough info in the paper. I will call the GP today. The daily mail (not that i read it obviously) is blaming immigrants (as usual) who are not vaccinated.

DD2 had another bad night, which meant I had another bad night. Antibiotics are aniseed flavour! Just what a 2yo will go for. Thankfully she has bizarre taste, and asked for more! Hopefully she will nap today, and I will nap too given the chance. I am popped.

blonderthanred Fri 28-Sep-12 09:05:25

VQ Seriously?! They are just turning into a self-parody.

TheDetective Fri 28-Sep-12 09:06:28

I have a dilema. I want some bookends for babys room. Baby doesn't need bookends. We have the expidet shelving thing, which books will go on.

But I want bookends. I don't know why. I just need them!

But which ones will go best in the room?!?!

Lion ones


Rainbow ones

Now, I really am going to sleep grin

TheDetective Fri 28-Sep-12 09:06:48

Dilemma even blush

The lion ones detective smile

Yes I saw that VQ hmm

horseylady Fri 28-Sep-12 09:14:01

The lions are soooooo cute!!!! I might get some...

I want them as well! I would make use of them but where would I put them? Baby's room has got so much in it already.

LittleLolly Fri 28-Sep-12 09:31:16

I had my flu jab yesterday. It's not a live vaccine so can't cause us any problems, and definitely do not want flu!

Whopping cough is most definitely making a huge comeback. I have looked after so many tiny babies recently with it and it is horrendous, they are all in hospital at least a week. I will be getting my vaccine because I don't want this little one getting whopping cough. I would really recommend you all get both jabs!! So says the children's nurse smile

I'm such a saddo. I'm ordering a dishwasher tomorrow and I'm so excited! I've wanted one for aaaaaaggges.

YellowWellies Fri 28-Sep-12 09:43:39

Apple I have dishwasher envy. Fingers crossed our next house will have one - we've not got room here.

I'm going to ask about flu and whooping cough vaccines - thanks for the tips ladies, when I see the mw next week.

StuntNun Fri 28-Sep-12 09:51:51

Nebbo you're having your section next week? Squeee! Do we need to start some kind of birth club thread for those who have had their babies already?

Thanks for the feedback on Ikea, I am reassured. We'll head down there tomorrow and have a look but I'll have to send DH down to actually get the stuff. I assume it's packaged to fit in the car boot? I have a mahoosive car. I feel really ignorant about Ikea but the only one in Northern Ireland opened when I wasn't looking for furniture so I haven't been there much.

I declined the flu vaccine because I've only ever had flu once but now I'm thinking I should have it for the baby's sake if he'll get protection from it too. I'll phone up the doctors on Monday and tell them I've changed my mind and can I have the whooping cough vaccine too.

YellowWellies Fri 28-Sep-12 09:59:06

Stunt Good idea on the birth club. Now go and enjoy Ikea - try the wondrous hot dogs, meatballs and other Swedish snacks in the cafe. Don't worry about the heavy stuff - the shop and huge trolleys are designed to make it easy to shift them around. Be warned though, you may need blinkers - I always come out with much more than planned. I got a lovely stripey blanket for the baby in there (kinda like the M&P gingerbread one) but for a tenner - result!!! They also do growbags and really cool lighting for kiddies rooms.

Nebbo I'm biased (it's my twin's name) but Maria is a lovely name and I know a lovely Isla too grin Good luck with your section!

kissyfur Fri 28-Sep-12 09:59:51

Just phoned to get a flu jab appt and the firs one they had was 24th oct! That seems too long away, I'll be 36 weeks by then hmm

DH emailed me this morning about the whooping cough jab... I know when we still lived in Belgium, they strongly urged both parents and even grandparents and childminders to get the jab, so not to pass it on to children!
I guess I will be having both the flu and whooping cough one then...<rocks in the corner, doesn't like injections>

iheart feeling slightly better, still very tired though! Still having hot and cold moments though. I guess it's just my body saying to take it easy!

With regards to IKEA furniture, almost all ours is IKEA, it's fab! We went on Wednesday to get some stuff, and I was very disappointed that the Trofast storage we had for DD1, was discontinued, so we had to get a smaller one.

VQ Did you see the offer on Little Lambs OSFA ? I couldn't resist and bought some, figured I get £30 from the council so would cover that wink

ShellyBobbs Fri 28-Sep-12 10:13:06

Detective didn't realise he worked in a supermarket! Definitely no excuse, absolutely none whatsoever.....

VQ Your poor girl sad Hope it gets better soon.

Catbag Big LoL at your hubby being kept awake because he's excited about computer stuff grin. I don't get it smile

Stunt The last time I tidied the kids bedrooms for them, I filled 7 bin bags and chucked them in the tip before I got them from school. All my lad was bothered about was a roll of grease-proof paper that he used as tracing paper, I hadn't thrown that either shock.

Also Stunt Ikea furniture has worked well for my kids and that's saying something. I've got loads of different bookcases and various bits and bobs and it's done us well. It's also good to hack which we've (me) have done quite a lot of too. Steer clear of Argos rubbish, now that is a load of crap (the cheaper end anyway).

Nebbo I've got an Erin (not Elin) and a Niamh so am biased! Niamh is 12 and absolutely loves her name and finds the different spellings that people try amusing smile

Kissy Tell them you are pregnant and how many weeks you are, they should squeeze you in before then.

I've already been to the doctors this morning to make an appointment for my vaccination against whooping cough. As LittleLolly says, it's horrendous for small babies and obviously can kill them, there is nothing you can do either once they are born until they are 8 weeks old except look out for symptoms and get to the GP quick (wouldn't want to put my trust in a GP with my newborn to be honest). My brother had it as a baby and I was only 3 but still remember how ill he was and was scared he was going to die! My GP surgery has to ask for permission to give it and I've got the immunity co-ordinator ringing me later. I spoke to the nurse about that and came out having had the flu-jab which she gave me there and then. That's a good result at least.

I've got loads to do today and absolutely NO motivation or energy. Where has my nesting thing gone? It was really bad at the end of the 20's, but since the damn water infection absolutely nada!

Anyway, I'm going to go and eat a pile of tomatoes and mozzarella soaked in olive oil. Yum Yum grin.

Cacacaz Fri 28-Sep-12 10:17:21

I can never catch up properly with this thread, I attempt to at night and then always end up too tired to post.

Congratulations to Daisy on the birth of Huey grin

Seems we all seem to have had stress to deal with right now, hopefully things will change for the better.

Have had lots going on the past few days, feel as if I don't know whether I am coming or going. My sil was admitted to hospital on Wednesday with pre eclampsia, she is very upset/scared/anxious mainly due to the fact it is my nephews 3rd birthday party tomorrow. It has been decided that she needs a c section today, so I have been running around like a headless chicken trying to help organise the party which sil and bil are adamant needs to happen tomorrow. Although I am looking forward to lots of newborn cuddles from my little nephew, once he arrives <selfish emotion>

I had whooping cough in July/August, going to phone the gp next week to check if I should still have the jab. I intend to follow their advice. Sadly one of the deaths of a baby, earlier this year, was a friend of my sisters. He was only 7 weeks old when he died of whooping cough.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 10:35:47

cacacaz is your sister due or will the baby be early? Hope all goes well. Not sure a party the day after a section is a good idea though. DD2 was born by section the day before my birthday, and I had a party in the ward. Not my idea of fun.

blue yes I have seen that. The OSFA do not quite fit all as I bought some for DD2 and at 2.4 they would not go near her. She is not a fattie either. They are lovely nappies, but very similar to Fuzzis, that I have a full set of, and suit my babes better. You will love them, and get good use out of them. Very good price so should get most of outlay back when you resell.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 10:37:24

I am due to have my flu jag 10 days before my section. They only have one clinic.

ShellyBobbs Fri 28-Sep-12 10:41:14

My mum has just phoned me to tell me about the whooping cough, she's just had an email (she works at one of the local GP surgeries). She told me my brother was ill for 18 months after he had it sad

Iheartpasties Fri 28-Sep-12 10:43:36

cacaccaz fingers crossed for your sil, and how sad about teh whooping cough death. so so sad.

Whooping cough made a bit of a come back around our area and I had a jab, so did dh and I got my mum and dad to have a jab too (they were visiting). I will say I had it after dd was born though.

we just had tacos for tea, yummo.

NervousAt20 Fri 28-Sep-12 10:52:20

Haven't had a chance to catch up on the thread yet it moves so fast!

LO wasn't moving a lot yday and after trying all my tricks to get her to wiggle she just wasn't having any of it so we came to the hospital for monitoring and I got admitted early hours this morning, there was a drop in baby's heart beat which they said could of been her moving awayfrom the monitor r tugging her cord and that's what changes the reading but they wanted me to stay in for more monitoring so waiting for a scan at some point today

Cacacaz Fri 28-Sep-12 11:01:17

Valium and Iheart she is 38+2 today, I said all along that a party might not be the best idea, given that her edd was so close to my nephews birthday. She wanted to make it special for him, being the last time he would have a party without having to share sil and bil attention (which I understand) but I have tried to reinforce the fact that he is about to turn 3, so chances are he won't remember this anyway. It's also much more important that his mummy and baby brother are safe.

I also saw the osfa offer on little lambs <very tempted> have you used those Valium?

horseylady Fri 28-Sep-12 11:02:46

Hope all ok nervous!!

Do we need to call the gp then for whooping cough or should we be contacted? Seeing the mw wed but will be 36 weeks then?

Iheartpasties Fri 28-Sep-12 11:04:58

nervous20 i am glad that you have gone to the hosptial. fingers crossed for you.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 11:12:48

Sorry cacacaz I did not realise it was your nephews birthday. I though it was to celebrate the birth blush. I would think he would be upset having a party without mummy there. I have not used the OSFA nappies as they would not fit my daughter. They have been put away for my boy, even though they are pink. I would recommend them though having seen and felt and washed them, but may need something else for night time once baby bigger and weeing more.
they would dry very quickly, but I doubt they would last to potty training unless you have a really skinny child.

THose of you who have had/are having the flu jab, did the midwife tell you to get it or have you just rung your surgeries to say you want it?

My midwife didn't mention it last week but then when I was picking up my prescription I saw the signs in the surgery. Not sure whether to wait for midwife at 34 weeks or just to ring up and get booked in.

Nervous I'm pleased they are taking it seriously and monitoring you. Hope all is ok x

Peaky1 Fri 28-Sep-12 11:27:58

After reading all of this about jabs I've text my midwife but she hasn't got back to me yet. I imagine they'll all have an influx of calls about it this week. I'm just going to call my GP surgery when they start accepting calls in the next ten mins to ask them as I'm 35+3 already. I'll let you know how I get on...

ShellyBobbs Fri 28-Sep-12 11:32:06

Fatima, when I spoke to the practice nurse today about the whooping cough jab, she asked me if anyone especially my midwife (and I've seen LOADS lately) had mentioned about me having the flu jab, she was all hmm when I said nobody had even mentioned it to me. So I'd give your surgery a ring or ring your midwife up even.

Horsey wouldn't hurt to speak to the surgery rather than wait until Wednesday, it has to be done before 38 weeks to give your baby the most protection they are saying. After 38 weeks they will still give it but can't guarantee that your baby will get the full 'hit' of the vaccine, you may have to wait so the sooner the better.

Nervous Good luck with the scan, hope everything with you and baba is OK.

My doctor has just rang (you have heard about the astronomical amount of times he rings me) to see how I am, my thyroid is acting up apparently and he didn't want me to wait to get the standard letter of 'make an appointment to see your GP'. Think I may have the best doctor in the world grin, I sound like some sort of yokel lol.

Peaky1 Fri 28-Sep-12 11:49:48

Just booked my flu jab for Sat 6th Oct at 11:07 hmm. Receptionists at my surgery haven't heard anything about the whooping cough vaccination yet so advised me to wait to hear what the midwife says when she gets chance.

Brockle Fri 28-Sep-12 11:55:24

Just called the community MW's who said they have just received an email in that it will be done through the GP's who should be sending out letters offering the jab. I called the GP's and they knew nothing about it and I haven't been offered the flu jab. I will give it a few days and call them again.

I've booked my flu jab for the 13th oct and will speak to mw on mon about wh cough jab.

Got my next scan in 2 weeks too that's coming round fast!

Peaky1 Fri 28-Sep-12 12:07:19

My midwife has just text me back. I'm the 2nd of her ladies to enquire this morning but they've had no official message as yet in her team. I guess I just wait and see what action occurs as it should spread nationally if DOH are jumping on it.

Peaky1 Fri 28-Sep-12 12:12:48

Oooh and I have to share the fact that I'm ridiculously excited that my Cheeky Wipes have arrived! Very nearly posted a pic on the FB group...fear I need to get a life.

The arrival of the wipes has brought a question to put to you ladies though - when do you think it's best to start using them? I'm very much all for the water and cotton wool for the first 6-8 weeks. The Cheeky Wipes are just terry towelling in water and essential oils but do you agree that I should resist my sad urges and use them after 6-8 weeks? Mind you, I guess terry towelling in the water alone might be handy for particularly messy bums. Any thoughts?

ShellyBobbs Fri 28-Sep-12 12:16:41

Nope, sorry. I'm a chuck us those wipes kinda girl!

YellowWellies Fri 28-Sep-12 12:20:02

Good luck nervous I hope all is ok. My bellydweller was really quiet for a couple of days after my 'rolled over and broke their neck' dream / paranoia on Wednesday and I was just working myself up to go and see the MW (and officially join the 'headless chicken' panic club that I'm sure she's mentally put me in) and I talked myself out of it. Today the wee one has been really active and I'm feeling reassured but you've given me a kick up the arse that even if I feel daft I should go and get checked the next time it happens.

Good luck! xxxx

Peaky I will be using the Cheeky Wipes from the first day smile
They're already in use now for DD1, for messy hands and washes in the morning smile I love them!

horseylady Fri 28-Sep-12 12:25:10

Love the receptionist!!! No official word from the doh she then went on to say 'oh has it been tested, I dont think I'd risk it. What if they've not tested it?'

I just laughed, smiled to myself and said I'd speak to mw wed lol!! Think I'll end up missing out. It'll take weeks to sort it!!

I've had 4 emails today (I get weekly updates on what baby is up too etc) that have all stated that reduced movements are to be expected from now on! shock that's awful advice and I thought very out dated. Anyway nervous I hope all is well with yourself and LO.

I have had several similar ones tits. My baby is more active now than ever!

Dixiebell Fri 28-Sep-12 13:06:01

Nebbo, love Niamh (although there is the spelling/pronunciation issue!), and Elin. Both unusual. Like Isla too although know a few babies with it.

Peaky1 Fri 28-Sep-12 13:12:49

Horsey - What do you reckon are the time scales for surgery's getting the vaccine and clinics getting set up? I think I'd like to be vaccinated but I'm only a day apart from you on pregnancy. Thinking on it, if it can be done then I'm sure they'll prioritise those who are cutting it fine.

As for baby movements, mine feel bigger and more obvious now. I don't get many of the twitchy kicks anymore but more movements that make me pull a face as it feels really weird! When it kicks off (pardon the pun) I tend to just sit and watch now. It cracks me up!

Just been going through babies clothes and we've only got 3 long sleeved vests in newborn/first size. All the others are in 0-3months. Do you think I should get another pack or two of newborn? Or will 0-3 be ok? Seeing as this baby is predicted to be a 9lber will it even fit in the first size, although I suppose it could be born at 37-39 weeks and be smaller.

Arghh sorry for all the questions grin

horseylady Fri 28-Sep-12 13:21:48

Well if the doh has releasednkthing official yet to health professionals I would imagine it'll take 2 weeks or so. That takes me to 37 weeks!!

I guess those closet will get vaccinated first....will see

Does anyone else get annoyed by some of the emails?!
I've just got on from mothercare saying congratulations you are now in week 32 except I'm not, I'm 32 weeks today which means I'm starting week 33!! I got one from cow and gate last Friday saying week 32 so at least that's correct but then in a few hours ill get one from pampers saying "pregnancy preview: week 32". Well it's not a preview is it since I've already finished week 32.

Pointless rant of the day but it's been annoying me for weeks now

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 13:43:02

I went to the GP this morning and the receptionist looked at me like I was stupid when I mentioned whooping cough vaccine. They have heard nothing. Different in England she said. So much for national health service. I will ask a the MW next week. My practice only has one flu jab clinic 10 days before my due date. I might get in touch with occ health to see if I could get both sooner via them.

peaky you simply MUST use the wipes as soon as the meconium is passed. It is THE LAW so long as you can cope with the washing. I personally do not like cotton wool, but similarly would not use wipes on a newborn. I clearly need some cheeky wipes, or get my finger out and make some. I would however just use water for the first few days.

fatima as you are pg, you should automatically be called as are in a high risk group. I would call them and ask.

Hope all is well nervous thinking of you honey x

ShellyBobbs Fri 28-Sep-12 13:49:19

Some are getting the vaccinations in on Tuesday Peaky, have a read of the pregnancy thread. It really is a serious illness and if baby gets it they could well end up in hospital in an incubator, it may be a bit of scare mongering at the moment but is it worth the risk? Baby will be sick inbetween bouts of severe coughing and will have a blue tinge due to lack of oxygen if they get it. A mum has just told her story of it with her newborn and how (surprise, surprise) it went undiagnosed for 2 weeks. Her's lost a lot of weight and couldn't keep feeds down.

That is disgusting advise Horsey, it's routinely used in America for pregnant women and other countries. I'm giving my surgery 1 week then I'm going to start hassling my PCT as there is NO WAY I'm putting my baby at risk!

Peaky1 Fri 28-Sep-12 13:52:33

Lol VQ I must have missed that law. It's probably cheaper to make your own as I forked out about £50 for my set but, just like with nappies, they're there to last you and save you money eventually. I liked the whole cost and environment-saving side of it but also the fact that there are plastic boxes and bags etc for ease of storage. I'm sure you would come up with something just as useful Blue Peter style!

I skipped over most of the nappy chat in earlier months as I got so lost on the different types that my brain would shut down. I'm now considering getting myself started with disposables and when I'm a bit more confident with it all then look to reusable nappies. I guess I need to get my butt on nappy threads.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 13:54:21

horsey I would actually report her for that. But I am a bitch. But seriously, that could result in a death potentially if you were to listen to her. She is not medically trained and should not be voicing an opinion on something she knows fuck all about. Highly unprofessional.

ShellyBobbs Fri 28-Sep-12 13:56:24

It really is, I was shock when I read that.

Peaky1 Fri 28-Sep-12 13:57:07

Shelley I totally agree as a paeds health prof myself but I'm just trying not to have my very first parental flap. I'll be on to the surgery first thing next week as there isn't likely to be any changes today re: clinic set ups if my surgery haven't had anything official yet. Plus I have my MW appointment on Thursday and a home visit to assess my inflatable birth pool at some point in the week too. I'm hoping our MWs will be able to administer it as well as the GPs as they're bound to get hammered for appointments.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 14:00:45

peaky I would advise you to have a read if you are bored, but not to put another pressure on yourself. Both mine will be in disposables until I am recovered from the section, as having a newborn is hard enough without adding more pressure. It is worth waiting until baby is here to see what suits him/her. The eBay cheapies (Alva baby 3) are very good value, and funky, but resale may be poor. There are so many to choose from, so it can be a bit baffling, and IS ADDICTIVE.

Peaky1 Fri 28-Sep-12 14:04:17

Haha I bet it is! It was the £30 offer mentioned earlier that got me thinking about it again. I guess until the baby has them on it's pretty difficult to tell what will suit. I need to research trials maybe and have the info ready for when I need it as I'll probably be a bit busy by then!

Dixiebell Fri 28-Sep-12 15:04:23

Okay so DH has suddenly thrown Zane into the mix as a baby name. I kind of like the sound iyswim, but not sure about the connotations...is it a bit, ooh look at us how zany are we? And One Direction ish...?! Views?

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Fri 28-Sep-12 15:12:34

I've just logged into my NHS mail and there was a core brief stating that pregnant woman will be offered the vaccination against whopping cough to protect unborn babies. Vaccination programme in Scotland will start in October and run for 6 months. So looks like the midwives etc will only just be being informed of this in Scotland. May explain lack of knowledge at present.

YellowWellies Fri 28-Sep-12 15:13:17

Sorry Dixie this is just my opinion but I think it'll date really badly and be of an era / celebrity. I.e. all the poor Jades out there just make me think of Jade Goody, Jordans of Jordan etc and all make me feel really sorry for them as they have a name with duff connotations that was cool for a brief period. IMHO Zane is trying to be too cool - imagine an 80 year old called Zane? Or a barrister? I can't... But I get what you mean about the phonetics - I like the sound of it.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 15:39:08

I like Zane, but it is a bit too cool, like YW says, and very One Direction.

I am awaiting a call from Occ health. They have the vaccine, so just waiting on an appointment hopefully. No doubt I will have a fight though, like I did with the SF vaccine. Thanks for that info izzy

WaitingForMe Fri 28-Sep-12 15:45:35

I'm glad my dad insisted on Alexa rather than Alexis and only then as a middle name only. I was an early 80s baby and DM loved Dynasty.

horseylady Fri 28-Sep-12 15:51:23

Ah occy health?! Can we get it through them or are you talking flu? To be honest, my surgery is bloody awful!! I see little point in complaining now....

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 16:00:56

horsey I am talking flu vaccine and whooping cough. Worth a try. They may say no. They have been vaccinating staff in high risk areas already, and my work is classed as high risk, so as I am not technically on mat leave yet... There are very few perks with working with the NHS so if there is a possibility of one, I will take it.

Peaky1 Fri 28-Sep-12 16:22:39

Good shout with Occy Health. If I get nowhere with GP next week then I'll turn to them (or maybe just hassle them both at the same time)

horseylady Fri 28-Sep-12 16:23:44

Yeah I always get flu through work, but they don't tend to start vaccines till nov!!

kissyfur Fri 28-Sep-12 16:39:07

Managed to get a flu jab appt on the 10th october now instead of 24th, gonna ring midwife about the whooping cough one now. No doubt nothing will have been sorted out yet, shouldn't they already have stocks of this vaccine as its one they give to school children?!

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 16:54:21

DD got hit again today, on the head, in class, while the teacher was holding the boys hand!!! Livid does not describe adequately how I feel about this. No note or communication from school either. I will explore over the weekend to make sure it did really happen but initial feeling is she is telling the truth. Again they came out together, but DD was doing a fine job of ignoring him and walking zig zag with him following. DH will hit the roof. She mentioned it like it was such a normal thing too.

Oh no VQ sad I would be demanding the boy is moved class immediately. They are obviously not handling it as they should. Your poor DD.

YellowWellies Fri 28-Sep-12 17:32:51

I agree with apple VQ time to go batshit, you've tried to be reasonable and go along with the school and his parents.

His parents might not worry about violence against themselves from him (more fool them), or god forbid try to curb his behaviour, but he can't go through life like this damaging other folks' lives. It isn't fair. Imagine, as I think it was Detective said upthread how he's going to be as a teenager if he doesn't get taught to temper his actions now. Also as you say - your daughter doesn't need to associate being kind to people = attracting negative attention and violence - that's a horrible lesson for her to learn.

It's obvious he has problems but if he is going to be in mainstream school then political correctness shouldn't be at the price of other kid's safety. Time to go full on mumpy I reckon.

Eegad has pregnancy made me go all Daily Mail?

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 17:41:16

I think DD might be having a day off on Monday until this is sorted. I need to be absolutely sure she is not fabricating, and the school had promised they would contact me before I collected her if anything else happened so I did not doubt her. The last thing she wants is mummy not believing her, but this is serious shit now.

Thank you for your support and advice - I know this is not really the place for this, but as I said before I would not be brave enough for an AIBU and I would hate for his mum to see this, as she might be a regular. I do feel for her, and am all for inclusion, but perhaps this little fella is not actually able to be in mainstream. I know she fought tooth and nail to get him in, and had to agree to him being held back a year also.

VQ that is awful, the school really need to step up and sort this once and for all. Your DD is handling it fabulously but it's sad that she's having too. angry on behalf of all of you.

I'm in a pissy moo again, DP hasn't materialised from work tonight so far, no message to say he's going to be late, it's not a huge problem but I really don't see it's a big deal to fire off a text so I know what's going on, I could of had plans, been still poorly or I could be worrying he's had an accident or something.
I know he'll be here soon and I hate him
Coming into me in a foul mood everyday because he never 'gets' it.

I have both kids to sort for bed, I have cooked dinner, cleaned the whole house again. Man do I hate being a sahm sometimes especially when I get zilch in the way of recognition ever. hmm <sigh> sorry I'm always fed up and whinging on here, this is getting tedious now.

blush he's jus called to say he was in a minor accident in the car and was with the police, not his fault and no one is hurt. Now I just feel bad for moaning blush

The main thing is he's alright tits. Don't be hard on yourself - you weren't to know.

Passmethecrisps Fri 28-Sep-12 18:53:09

Oh no tits

horsey wat do you mean they don't sleep swaddled? Is that not the point of swaddling? I have a swaddlepod. Will it sleep in that? Oh noes. . .

I am sorry more has happened vq. I think yw's way of putting it - time to go batshit - is pretty much on the money. You should have received a call - it's the least they should have done. Call them on Monday morning explaining that your daughter has complained of being hit again. The lack of a call suggests that there is a failing somewhere in their plan and until they can fix it your daughter will be off school. I think a change of class is in order and a meeting with the head again.

Who mentioned Abigail and Isla? Lovely, lovely names. Gorgeous.

I finally got my boots changing bag today. Hooray! I also went to primark to buy a nightshirt to give birth in, a pair of jammies for afterward and a dressing gown (mine currently only just fits and has been rendered indecent due to kitty claws)

I had my 34 week appointment today. No mention of whooping cough vaccination. I forgot to ask. I will be 37 weeks next appointment so I will still be in time to get it. Or do you think I should call in and book it separately? I should get flu as well as I am asthmatic. Not that I had it last year mind you.

TheDetective Fri 28-Sep-12 18:59:32

Tits I was nodding with sympathy about the not wanting to be in a pissy mood when they get home, because they are being inconsiderate idiots.

Then I read your next post, and giggled like mad. Not at the accident, your poor DP - but just at sods law! It'd be the kinda thing I'd post lol!

Hope all is ok, and at least now you have your answer ;)

VQ I can't believe the school did not contact you at this latest incident, particularly because it was witnessed by a member of staff. This is negligent on their behalf. I know you have been emailing to keep record of all conversations - but it may be worth cc'ing the LEA or similar, and letting the school know that you are no longer satisfied with their handling of the situation. Your daughter is being assulted regularly, and they are unable to cope with this. It isn't acceptable, particularly after you met with the head earlier in the week.

I've woke up from a fantastic sleep, slept all day with no waking. I eventually woke up this evening giggling! I was having a very amusing dream! This is unheard of for me - I tend to have strange unsettling dreams! I don't remember ever having a 'nice' dream tbh! So that was a welcome bonus! I'm telling you - nights is the way forward! Bed to myself is just pure bliss!

Does anyone else find that when they wake up, and get out of bed, their legs are unable to hold up properly without pain?! My legs seem to take a further 5 minutes to wake up than the rest of me! I hobble from the bed to the bathroom and back again every day! Irritating!

My friend who works for a private scanning company has arranged a presentation scan for me on sunday afternoon, so we can finally get an answer on what this baby is up to inside, and I can start doing things to get him to shift if he is indeed breech.

TheDetective Fri 28-Sep-12 19:02:31

Pass With swaddling, it is ok to settle them if you are supervising baby, as in baby is in your arms, or in front of you, and you are watching over him/her. But if you are going to sleep, or out of the room, I'd personally unwrap baby. Once baby is settled, unwrap and cover with blankets as usual.

This is what I will be doing...

Passmethecrisps Fri 28-Sep-12 19:06:52

I see detective. Why is that? Is it due to overheating?

I just bought more little lambs nappies. Offer of 8 osfa for £32. That's all the nappies I'll be getting I think.

Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 28-Sep-12 19:18:33

Saw the midwife today and she too said she had had no directive as yet to offer it.

It worries me though. I am, not anti vaccine by any means but how do we know it is safe?

I'm getting some strong Braxton Hicks today. Has taken my breath away a few times.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 19:33:50

Just sent a batshit email. Feel better for it. I said I was emailing now, as I need her to get a feel of how I am feeling, and while the details are fresh in my mind. After further discussion with DD, there is no doubt she is telling the truth, and I am most angry that I had to do this! Poor scrap. With a member of staff witnessing it, there should be no need to question her, just support her with how she feels. DH will send a considered response over the weekend. He is very eloquent and will research various things before writing. I have said she will not be in school until he is moved, and there is a clear safety plan in place to ensued this NEVER happens again. No more Mrs nice parent!

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 19:34:54

sophia have a read of the thread in pregnancy about it. Hopefully that will reassure you.

Good on you VQ it needed to be done. There has been far too much focus on this boy and not your DD. She needs to protected from this and so far the school haven't managed it so now you have to step in.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 19:48:36

It has been all about the boy apple. Well now it is about my girl. I do not give a stuff about the plan for the boy and his rights to integrate, I care about the plan for my girl and her right to be safe.

ShellyBobbs Fri 28-Sep-12 19:53:28

VQ Yep, let rip now and don't take ANY shit! You've played it their way and it didn't work, now to do it your way. Tough on his parents, it's not your problem what they have been through, as I said before I would have gone ape from the very beginning so you've done well and kept your dignity and can throw it back in their faces that you've done it way..........

Brockle Fri 28-Sep-12 19:56:09

I couldn't agree with you more VQ your DD is your priority and what they are doing is just not good enough. Time to get tough. Really admire your DD though. You must be so proud at how she is handling it.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 19:58:00

Thank you thanks

Evilwater Fri 28-Sep-12 20:16:00

VQ- I don't know how you have handled it so well. I would have gone mental, and so would DP.

As for you other ladies having trouble with your other halfs, I do feel for you. Mine says the odd comment, but as I'm getting bigger he's helping more.

Last night I joined the tena lady section of the group. Did a bit of food shopping, watched some tv on the I pad, which I'm running out of things to watch.
No headache today, but I've taken it every easy today.

Hope things get better soon for you all. Also we are using disposables, it would be only me sorting out the nappies, and I'm not going to do that Espally in winter.

Evilwater Fri 28-Sep-12 20:19:56

Also to the lady that hates the e-mails, I hate them too.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 20:44:17

DH (bravely) thinks my email came over as emotional and angry. I wanted it to! I have told him he can do all the talking from herein, as I have managed it thus far. This is not me responding angrily to him, just stating a fact that I have taken it as far as I can in my delicate condition, and we need to bring in the heavy guns. He is very eloquent, and comes over extremely well in such situations as he is calm and confident, but wraps people up in their own words. One of the many reasons I love him so. We will send DD to school as usual on Monday, but ensure we have a clear plan in place before the end of the session or she will not be going back. And breathe...

Passmethecrisps Fri 28-Sep-12 20:58:22

Emotional and angry is not necessarily a bad thing. The school do need to see how much of an impact this situation is having. However, I also think it is a good thing that your DH steps in. I really hope you get some resolution soon.

I thought I had a bit of a melt down at work yesterday - spent the whole rest of the day feeling really out of sorts. Convinced myself that I had overreacted and felt dreadful about it. However, today I get more info, discover that my gut was right after all and a colleague who witnessed the interaction assured me that he thought I was 'amazingly calm and collected'. Strange because in my head I actually stamp my foot in annoyance.

Anyway, one week left of work so if anyone is upset they have 8 months to get over it

Evilwater Fri 28-Sep-12 20:59:31

Pass- sounds great.

Passmethecrisps Fri 28-Sep-12 21:10:39

evil I love how you sign off all of your posts. Makes me smile

Evilwater Fri 28-Sep-12 21:16:36

I'm glad I can put a smile on someone's face.

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 21:20:11

evil often makes me smile. I think she is fab smile

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 21:21:20

shock you are scaring me now evil. <<whimpers>>

Evilwater Fri 28-Sep-12 21:22:18

I like all you guys too.

Evilwater Fri 28-Sep-12 21:24:49

Oh, I have not been told anything about jabs for me. Should I be worried?
I'm seeing my GP in on Thursday, should I ask about them?
(That's not really, unless you piss her off)

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 21:24:53


ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 21:26:21

I would encourage anyone who has not heard about the jags to be proactive as we do not have long before these bumps are no longer bumps.

Evilwater Fri 28-Sep-12 21:31:25

Jagsgrin grin

Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 28-Sep-12 21:33:45

Vq always useful to have an eleoquant DH. I nope you get all thi sorted out next week.thanks

I have read to whooping cough thread which is quite interesting actually and everyone seems to be desperate to get to the front of the queue. I have also dropped a note to a couple of my American friends to see what they say.

As well as this am wondering about a colleague, that I sit next too, who has had a cough since July! It says that often adults don't get the whoop but a persistent lingering cough. So, if she has got it then I must be super dooper immune because alltough I did get a cold in the summer hols it went away. She is still coughing and has been back to the drs three times. I might mention it when it when I see her on mon.

Sorry if this is tmi but my diarrhoea is getting worse. I went to the toilet just now and it flushed out of me like water. This has been going on for more than a week now. Am I worrying about nothing or do you think I should mention it?

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 21:42:55

They call injections jags in Scotland. Honest. I am trying to sound Scottish. I go for my messages, and my DD takes a play piece to school.

Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 28-Sep-12 21:44:28

What are messages? And hat an earth s a play piece?

ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 21:44:45

apple it is worth getting it checked out as you are at risk of getting dehydrated, which is not good for you or baby. Hope you get lumps soon.

Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 28-Sep-12 21:46:22

I think you shoul mention it apple though I do notice when preggo you are either one extreme or the other. I alternate between mild constipation and going all the time. Best to mention anything out of then ordinary I feel.


ValiumQueen Fri 28-Sep-12 21:47:34

Of course, I should say 'we call injections jags' grin

Messages is shopping, and play piece is snack for play time. A piece is a sandwich. When I first moved up here I was puzzled that my clients were forever going to the post office.

horseylady Fri 28-Sep-12 22:13:52

Pass what detective said.

Vq I think an email is fine. I usually write, store, calm down and check!! Plus with an email you can save a copy!

Apple - worth getting checked. Have to say I have to total opposite problem!! I can't remember who else is suffering.

Evil I'm checking when I see mw. Will see what she says!!

kissyfur Fri 28-Sep-12 22:19:20

Hope the school really do take action to protect your DD next week VQ. She sounds like a lovely lass, hope this doesn't affect her too much.

Urgh, I feel rotten tonight - feel a bit sick and have got heartburn but also still feel hungry?!? V weird! Am so bored too, DP has gone out to his mates after only getting in from work at about 7. Feel like I hardly see him these days. sad

Catbag Fri 28-Sep-12 22:35:17

Thanks for the translation VQ- I too had no idea what that meant! Just for the record, I think you've been more than reasonable up to this point, but it's definitely time to pull out the big guns. It sounds a little like the school is floundering and I don't think it would hurt to push them in the right direction, even if that means getting emotional at them. Hopefully DH will be able to help guide this too.

CandyPop Fri 28-Sep-12 22:48:48

kissy heartburn is such a pain. I find swigging gaviscon really helps smile

Ok rant: why do ppl especially strangers like to comment on how big I am?! It's really peeving me off now. I've had this week 'Are u sure ur not carrying twins ? You r huge!' WELL NO IM NOT..... I got measured a week ago the exact size I'm meant to be thank u very much!' soooo annoying. Another girl from ante natal class gets the opposite and get comments on how small her bump is. Why do ppl think this is ok?! It's kinda implying that our babies are too big or not growing properly?! It's soo rude ESP when ppl don't really know how big someone should be! I am gonna flip on the next person that comments on my size!!!!! angry

MissMummy1 Fri 28-Sep-12 22:56:35

Candy 5 different people have commented on how small I am today - including the chemist who apparently didn't even realise I'm pregnant hmm - it's driving me mad too.

Currently propped up in bed with worst heartburn ever. Even the yucky tesco tablets aren't curing it. I'm really breathless as well it's horrible. Dh's phone dropped out of signal but he's coming home early tomorrow a day early from diving as I've been sooo exhausted the past few days and ms has returned with avengence. Juniors had a quiet day too, but every time i've gone to phone mw i've been kicked so just keeping an eye on it. Uhhh wish the next 8/9 weeks would hurry up so i could stop worrying and find something elee to be paranoid about.

Sorry for the me me me post. Feeling shit.

VQ hope it's resolved asap. I'm famous for sending fiery emails in fits of rage. Not always the best tact but sometimes needs to be done.

Cacacaz Fri 28-Sep-12 23:04:53

I have a new nephew, born late this afternoon grin haven't been able to visit yet. Mum and baby doing well despite the fact sil blood pressure is still quite high. He weighed 5lb 12oz and is utterly gorgeous, he doesn't have a name yet.

Valium how terrible for your daughter, you have had some wonderful advice here from everyone. You have handled this situation very calmly indeed, huge fact that your email tonight reinforces how you feel should speak volumes to the staff. Your post about jags, messages and play piece made me lol. We do have some sayings that confuse people, my favourite has to be "up the stair".

One week left at work before maternity leave grin and after a 13 hour day, it can't come quick enough. Today was the first day that I have really struggled sad.

I can't remember who it was that said being a teacher has given many names negative connotations. I have this problem too, having worked with children for the last 12 years, and have ruled out many names.

MissMummy1 Fri 28-Sep-12 23:12:46

Congrats on your new nephew cacacaz. Hope SIL' b.p. stabilises soon. It was me who said about name connotations. It's really making choosing one tough. Dh doesn't understand...

Cacacaz Fri 28-Sep-12 23:46:54

MissMummy my dh doesn't understand either, I have vetoed so many of his suggestions because of this. Between that and many of the names I like already being used by friends, we have a very small list of possible names!

Having lots of tightenings right now, they are very uncomfortable gong to attempt to use my heat pad in the hope that it will ease the discomfort. I am tired beyond words and really want to sleep now sad

Iheartpasties Sat 29-Sep-12 00:15:52

VQ your poor little dd, they MUST be sent out of class separately, her being harassed is so upsetting. Bless her little heart. And yes – avoid AIBU as they can kick off for no apparent reason!! Really he is one year stronger than your dd too which isn’t fair.

tits oh dear – that made me chuckle! Moan moan, stupid dh, and then ‘oh no’ he was in a accident! TYPICAL!! (sods law)

cacacaz congrats to your SIL!

Just had breakfast, it's overcast today so I'm not sure what our plans are. I had a shit nights sleep - probably because it was ridiculously hot! It got boiling hot and over cast yeterday and then we had lightening, and some rain, I had hope it would all clear away for today, but not so far.

DH has monday off work this week, its a public holiday.

StuntNun Sat 29-Sep-12 00:27:14

Your poor DD is having a tough time VQ it's not fair on her that the school are not taking this seriously enough. Are any other children being harassed too? I don't think you should worry about the boy's mother, it's not like you're demanding he be removed from the school, you just want your daughter to be safe. At least she seems to be taking it in her stride but the problem needs to be resolved before it goes any further as the longer it goes on, the harder it will be to sort out.

I had a scan today and baby is measuring spot on for my dates. The registrar was a bit useless, she couldn't tell me if the baby was back to back or back to my front (this was while she was scanning) and seemed to think I should have another section even though DS2 was delivered normally rather than a sunroof job. She also said I should go into hospital as soon as I went into labour and not to wait for established labour. Err can't see the midwives going for that one somehow.

Can't believe I've missed out on the whole Ikea thing. I'm looking forward to going shopping tomorrow.

God I'm so frustrated I could cry. I just want to snuggle up in bed and sleep.
But my back aches, my pelvis hurts, my left hip is killing and I've got killer heartburn. That's before contending with the huge bump sadsmile

So I'm now up and sat on the sofa watching tv and feeling very sorry for myself

Fatima I'm on the sofa too! I was asleep until 2am when DP got into bed and woke me up, then promptly started snoring again!
I was watching this weeks Great British Bakeoff and its made me want buns. hmm

As soon as the kids wake up I plan to go get back into bed while he sorts them out grin

Oooh buns sound good grin
I'm surprisingly awake, I've been watching reruns of how I met your mother. DH will be due to get up shortly so ill try go back to bed then and use the whole bed to get comfy

I build whole bests of pillows and duvets when DP isn't in the bed, I've always done it, even as a kid. It's marvellous to be just so comfy. smile

nests .... Silly autocorrect!

rowingdowntheriver Sat 29-Sep-12 05:57:00

Ooh, I'm awake too and it seems like I've got company?! Will catch up on the thread now.

rowingdowntheriver Sat 29-Sep-12 06:30:11

I am really bad at remembering who has written what (despite having only just read the thread!).

Thanks for the info about the whooping cough jab, I'm going to call my midwife about it on Monday to see if I can get it. I got my flu jab on Thurs - just asked my Dr for it when I was in seeing her with DS (who has got tonsilitis and an ear infection sad).

Re the wet wipe convo earlier, I started off using water and cotton wool with Ds but found it a pain as bits of cotton wool kept sticking to his bum and, I think, irritating it. I found some disposable water wipes online which I used for a few months. You can get them from ocado or Amazon and I think I'll use the same this time round.

Boring tax update alert: Many of you may already know this but I've only just found our that child benefit entitlement is changing from Jan 13. Basically if either you of your partner earn more than £60k you will not get any benefit (well actually you can but it will get taken back from the highest earner through their tax code at the end of the tax year). If the highest earner earns between £50k and £60k then you will only be entitled to part of the benefit. Thought I'd share in case it affects you and you need to plan for it.

Iheartpasties Sat 29-Sep-12 06:54:53

I have just been sewing with the sewing machine, but now I'm putting my feet up as my back is aching.

ValiumQueen Sat 29-Sep-12 07:30:06

rowing I wish we earned enough to be affected by the child benefit changes! We can only dream of earning that much grin

Thank you for all your kind words. stunt last year the boy became fixated on another little girl. They could not tell me who it was or what happened. The first week of class her best friend had a broken arm with just a back slab and bandage while the swelling went down, and he stabbed his pencil into her sore arm repeatedly. She was so upset she would not go back to school. I only found out about it this week from her dad.

ValiumQueen Sat 29-Sep-12 07:41:17

I am sorry that so many of you young things are feeling so shattered, although I do find it slightly reassuring that it is not just my age. missmummy I do hope your breathlessness has eased. If not, I would encourage you to get it checked out.

tits hope your DH is ok. Do not feel bad. You did not know. I remember many years ago, my ex had just been thrown out by me for cheating on me with my 'friend' and I said to my mates at work 'I wish he would just do me a favour and die' (not nice, granted, but deserved) and then a phone call came through to say he had been in a high speed crash. He was ok but his beloved car was a right-off. I felt awful, and have never said anything like that again, just in case!

Elizadoesdolittle Sat 29-Sep-12 08:16:08

Morning all, feeling knackered this morning. I was out for a friends birthday last night and got home just before midnight. But instead of just going straight to bed I stayed up with DH watching the Ryder cup. Then I was up with heartburn during the night and then awake at some silly hour. Still I am off for a spa day/night with the girls a bit later so looking forward to some relaxing time.

I can't believe it's nearly October. We will be able to say our baby's are due next month, and some of you will be able able to say this month. Eeeek....exciting stuff smile

horseylady Sat 29-Sep-12 08:30:47

Any news from nervous? Just wondered who shed got on yesterday?

MissMummy1 Sat 29-Sep-12 08:54:16

TMI had a lot of extra discharge. Clear with no blood but added to the quiet day yesterday and breathlessness last night they want me to go in and get checked out. Will update later

Lane81 Sat 29-Sep-12 08:55:56

I'm so sorry to hear about your DD VQ. I think you and your DH are handling it really well, and lots of good advice on here. Just wanted to chip it with my support really.

I'm with those annoyed by comments on size, I'm in the 'you're so small, how can you be 34 weeks etc' until yesterday when everyone was exclaiming how much I had popped in a slightly knowing way. Just don't comment, my body isn't up for constant public debate!

Lane81 Sat 29-Sep-12 08:56:33

Hope all is ok missmummy

StuntNun Sat 29-Sep-12 09:19:14

Rowing I recommend cotton wool pads because they don't leave annoying bits of fluff behind.

With regard to the child benefit, if you or your partner earn above the cut off of £50k then one option is to put extra into your pension to bring the salary below the cut off. Obviously you have to be earning just the right amount that you can afford to put extra into your pension without disadvantaging yourself but I'm sure some people would be able to do that. It's a ludicrous system where a family with one person earning 60k loses the benefit but a family with two people earning 50k each gets to keep it. That's Britain for you, working hard to ensure the system is fundamentally unfair.

Brockle Sat 29-Sep-12 09:25:38

Hope everything is ok MM and nervous. Have a stinky cold and want to go back to bed already but DH has agreed to help dig a drainage ditch at the football pitch that is used by DS1's kiddie football club (fool) so may have to be a veg day on the sofa and hope the kids are angels smile.

Got my iron results back and at 28 weeks it was 11.6. Same as with DS1 but I dropped quite a bit with him and was anaemic by the end. I think I may ask for a re-test at 34 weeks just to see if there is a drop. Really want a water birth so need to up the steak, spinach and iron tablets I think!

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 29-Sep-12 09:39:50

missmummy/ nervous hope all goes well today. Keep us up to date.

Right stupid question time, I know this is DC 4 but in my defence all pregnancies are different and all of them throw up new thoughts and experiences.

Ok so baby has dropped and is super low today, but the head is not engaged. confusedThen on Thurs the sonographer said the head was sort of cocked to one side and looking up. Surely that is uncomfortable? Is it going to come out a bit twisted. YW I know you have been investigating the belly mapping thing, does that sort of position appear?

It couldn't damage itself by being like that could it?blush

Ok I will go back to being a normal intelligent woman now and go and clean the bathroom.

My iron results were 10.8 at 28 weeks and despite previously being prescribed iron tablets they didn't give me any more. Stupidly I forgot to ask. Seeing mw next Friday so will ask about the tablets and being retested. She said 10.8 is still within the normal range but it has dropped a lot from what it was hence I will be feeling very tired.

Iheartpasties Sat 29-Sep-12 10:13:14

Fingers crossed for nervous & mm1 keep us updated please smile

We are slowly slowly getting this flat organised, I feel we are going in the right direction, sometimes I need to focus on that and try not to stress over the small things smile Today we bought a hammer and some fixtures so I can put up some pictures in DD's room, fingers crossed it'll look good when we're done. We went to a massive stationary store today and it was amazing, good job DH was there to reign me in - every isle had stuff on it i would have been happy to buy, stuff you never knew you wanted until you saw it!!

ValiumQueen Sat 29-Sep-12 11:02:54

sophia I am sure your baby will be fine. They are not subject to the same gravity as us as they are in water, and have super soft padding, plus their bones and muscles are super flexible. If uncomfy baby would be perfectly able to move, and when you lay down that would be even easier. First babies engage fairly early, but subsequent ones will not do so until the onset of labour, although they may bob in and out of your pelvis. When I was unloading the washer yesterday, I wondered if I could snap the babys neck by accident. This is my third. I know that is daft. I just think it is natures way of reminding us that the time is getting near.

MissMummy1 Sat 29-Sep-12 11:10:03

All is fine. Thanks for your kind words. Mws were lovely and reassured me I was NOT overreacting. Typically as soon as they stuck me on monitors junior started moving. Been told to take it easy and keep an eye on discharge but lots of extra clear discharge is normal in 3rd trimester. Feel a bit stupid now but a lot less stressed so wasn't a complete waste of time!

Nervous hope you got some good news too xx

Iheartpasties Sat 29-Sep-12 11:19:25

mm1 good news, awesome, you absolutely did the right thing in getting checked.

ValiumQueen Sat 29-Sep-12 11:38:08

Good news MM don't feel silly. You did the right thing. Hope you do rest and soon feel better x

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 29-Sep-12 11:46:42

missmummy that's good news now get busy with some resting!

kirrinIsland Sat 29-Sep-12 11:48:28

MM and nervous hope you are both ok.

I did my last day at work yesterday - what a relief!

Today will involve mooching around not doing too much and hoping my back and pelvis stop aching!

MM Glad it's good news!

I finally went to bed again about 6am when DH got up for work. Managed to get some one and off sleep although I kept waking with a painful hip and having to try find a comfier position. Am I really going to have another 8 weeks of this? sadangrygrin

My iron level was 9.9 when I finally got the results through so I was put on iron tablets straight away. Although with it taking nearly 3 weeks to get the results i'm guessing it probably fell lower in that time.

We've got no plans this weekend, we might pop to Ikea tomorrow but today we're sorting the house out once DH gets home. I made myself a spreadsheet of what needs doing to the house before I'm due so each weekend we have a different room to tackle, today's job is our bedroom <geek>

Is anyone planning on keeping baby names secret until it's born? MIL was questioning us last night, we haven't discussed it much anyway because I want to wait to make a final decision, but I really wanted to say stop asking because we're not going to be telling. I just know that if we mention some of the names we like there'll be some negative comment so i'd rather just wait until we're fully decided

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 29-Sep-12 12:30:52

I would keep it to yourself fatima

Iheartpasties Sat 29-Sep-12 12:31:55

fatima yes we will keep queit once we have chosen our name/s i hate hearing negative comments about names so i dont tell anyone what we've decided on. With dd my 'best' friend fell out with me because we 'stole' her name, she was pregnant with a boy and she had told me this and told me it would be her last baby - we had a girl!?? argh!! We are still not friends, i made lots of effort and now just feel totally fed up with it! stupid fucking cow!!!!!!!!! confused

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 29-Sep-12 12:34:40

kirrin I think you are due the same day as me,7. Nov? I left on Thurs so knowing you have left appeases me that I left at te right time.

Awful BH today. Either that or I haveeten something.


blonderthanred Sat 29-Sep-12 12:38:55

Yep, keeping baby names and baby sex a secret until the birth. I've just told everyone we have 2 names for each sex and we'll see what it looks like when it comes out!

Most people have guessed the sex correctly though which is annoying as I'll have lots of smug friends after the birth. No-one's guessed the name though!

fatima we have chosen a name but will be keeping it secret. My mum and brother kept going on and on about names so in the end I told them we've got one sorted but won't be telling anyone until he's here. DP's family do know the name but they are in Iran so it was his way of trying to make them feel involved in some way.

I always think people are far less rude about names once baby is here and it is certain.

Argh bad back ache radiating down my legs like mad.
I have had a particularly stressful morning.

Hibernating seems good now!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sat 29-Sep-12 13:03:03

Had a less than auspicious start to the day when I puked more violently than have in an age. DH had already left for work so I had DD patting my leg a I heaved, before she wandered off to look after her babies. Then we went for a walk because I didn't want to spend the only day where it is just the two of us lazing on the sofa, and she was a proper monster about being in her reins and wanted me to carry her. She's sleeping now and I am fighting the urge to snooze too as if I do I will feel worse when I wake up.

In the last couple of days my pelvis and hips have started to really feel the weight of the baby, and I have developed a sort of lumbering waddle. A good look.

apple That's what I think, if we say some names now we might get negative comments but if we announce it with a cute little baby then people aren't going to say it's a horrible name. Not that we've picked some ridiculously eccentric name, we haven't even picked one yet smile

Tits I sympathise with the back ache sad
My lower back, pelvis, fanjo bone and hips are hurting and it radiates down my leg. Keep getting frustrated but i'm sure it'll be worth it.

kirrinIsland Sat 29-Sep-12 13:15:18

Sophie yes I am due on the 7th - I think I have definitely timed finishing work right, I am more than ready and the long drive was getting a bit much.

Fatima I would definitely not tell people the name - some bugger will always spoil it for you, whereas once baby is here they will just say it's nice whether they like it or not! I have no qualms about telling people we won't be saying beforehand either, most people understand, and the ones that don't will just have to get over it!

I've sent DP and the kids out to fetch me McDonalds blush
I can't walk at all, when I was awake in the night, I felt something snap just above my pubic line (hard to explain) I got a reall bad cramp, then this savage hip/pelvic/back pain ever since. Little one us still quite happily wriggling around in there though, I've had no discharge or anything so I'm sure it's all muscular but either way I'm not confident in going far today, the pain is reaching my knees. hmm

Oh Tits that sounds awful! Can't you soak in a warm bath to take some weight off your back/hips? Or have you got a birth ball to sit on?

I came upstairs with the intentions of starting on the bedroom, I have some how ended up in bed checking on holiday prices grin

Ohh I could get my ball blown up, I've been looking for a good excuse! smile
No bath though only a shower, I'll get DP to commence blowing when he gets in! grin

I think he just wanted to do cinema tonight so at least it's sedate and I can fall asleep

YellowWellies Sat 29-Sep-12 15:23:55

I've got my ball blown up and bounce away when watching tv Tits I highly recommend it even when I see my arse reflected in the window it looks like a hippos - when I get up from the couch I'm like an old woman with sore hips and pelvis but I feel fine after a good bounce.

MM1 am so glad you're fine hon - and also wonderful that DH is coming home early. Good man. I've had similar symptoms actually - the clear discharge (which was great last night when I farted and thanks to the discharge, it sounded like I'd 'sharted' grin DH nearly wet himself, sigh the mystique has gone hasn't it now, I'll never be able to deny that I fart, snore or burp thanks to pregnancy!!!!) and some really quiet days movement wise. I'm going to mention it to the MW when I see her next week. Junior seems to be really active when DH and I are having a good natter or setting the world to rights listening to the radio - oh dear have we created another ranter???

I checked out the growth charts the sonographer filled in last week from our growth scan and woohoo it looks as though junior is going to be 7.5 - 8lb if they continue on this trajectory (so either a smallish boy or a biggish girl) - am feeling much more confident that I can birth one that size. I have been terrified of having a whopper.

Sophia it sounds like your wee one is either transverse or maybe left occipital posterior (or possibly others, let me know which side they are on and whether the MW said they were posterior or anterior) - they'll be totally fine in this position at this stage but would likely move before the birth. My wee one isn't engaged yet either but is down really low. I've noticed my bump change shape quite markedly...

YellowWellies Sat 29-Sep-12 15:24:18

No news from nervous yet? sad that's making me nervous!

Hmm.. She was waiting to have a scan yesterday. I hope everything is alright.

I hope nervous and bump are ok, hopefully resting all nice and healthy wherever they are.

My ball has a hole sad I'll need to hunt a new one.

jaylee89 Sat 29-Sep-12 16:00:29

hello ladies. well monday was an eventful night for me and DH baby decided she wanted to make a early appearance so had to have steriods and a drip inserted into my arm to stop my contractions and thank the lord it worked. was on labour ward for 48 hours and finally came home yesterday. still having some tightenings but hopefully she will stay put for a while yet!

been having alot of my show come away lately again so hopeing it isnt going to kick off again.

hope everone is well....and congratulations daisy i hope your little man is home safe and sound soon. xxx

Oh that reminds me. I need to get a yoga mat for my first antenatal class on Monday. I've left it late so it will have to be tesco or argos.

Took the dog to be groomed earlier. He's now in the garden barking at a balloon which floated over the fence because he's scared of it. Daft thing grin Dishwasher ordered. DP is doing overtime until 7 then we might go out for a nice meal. I fancy an Indian I think.

ValiumQueen Sat 29-Sep-12 16:19:52

Gosh jaylee glad they managed to halt things. Naughty baby!

Nervous about nervous too. Hope all is well x

I had a dishwasher once. Pointless as I used to wash up before I put stuff in as I did not want it to get dirty. Silly valium.

I feel like poo today. Went back to bed for a couple of hours this morning which is unheard of. Feel a bit better for it. DD2 is not wanting to wear her nappy and wants to sit on her potty. I cannot cope with potty training her so near to delivery. I just cannot. She has seemed ten foot tall today, but after a drive in the car she has finally fallen asleep. Sitting in car with her while DH and DD1 go food shopping.

YellowWellies Sat 29-Sep-12 16:23:05

Wow jaylee how far along are you? You'd mentioned having a bit of the mucus plug coming away before hadn't you? Gawd that must have been terrifying. Well great news you've had the steroids and had the full 48 hours for them to work, as now the wee one's lungs will be so much healthier and stronger if they do insist on making early travel plans. Are you set on names just in case? Did the docs give you any advice on stuff to do / avoid to prevent prem labour? (speaking as someone who's been having contractions / irritable uterus for the last trimester, or so it feels, and is still a bit scared of prem labour).

Oh and row thanks for the tip on child benefit - sods law the very first time in my life I'd actually be in line for receiving benefits rather than just paying a shed load of tax, and lo and behold I don't think we'll be getting anything - DH earns mid £50s k? So would that be tapered or no child benefit?

... I just hope this one stays put until their due date so I can at least claim MA. If they turn up early I won't have done enough freelancing in this tax year. Arse....

Glad the drip done its job jaylee. Must have been a worrying time.

Oh YW now you're scaring me about birthing this huge baby!
If it carries in at the same centile growth it's looking like 9lb-9lb 5oz shock It's got to be a boy at that weight surely?! If I put on 0.5lb a week from now it's still looking at a late 8lber! I'm hoping it's an over-estimate.

How scary Jaylee Glad you've had the steroids and things look to have stopped for now. Fingers crossed it waits a bit longer.

We've finally finished the nursery. We're still waiting on the lampshade but I'll rant about that later. Going to put some pictures up I the fb group

jaylee89 Sat 29-Sep-12 16:41:00

ive been told not to do anything to vigorous. im 34 weeks tomorrow.
had big bit of mucus plug come away on monday then 5 hours later started having painful contractions every 6 mins apart mother and DH marched me to labour ward and it was a bit of a blur from there to be honest was very rushed and scary. been having period pains all morning and yet again more mucus plug and havent done anything inpractical. i just hope nothing kicks off this evening i want her to be as healthy as possible before she makes her entrance.
YW if you just dont feel right and feel like soemthing is wrong please ring the LW as they said to me they want people to come in to be checked even if nothing is wrong and dont ever want people to feel like they are nagging (as this is what i thought i would be doing if i rang) im glad mother pushed me to ring them otherwise god knows what could have happened.

YellowWellies Sat 29-Sep-12 16:51:59

Don't worry Jaylee I've been getting extra 4 weekly scans since I was 28 weeks to make sure the hatch is still closed! Baby is quieter but still moving lots - if I lie still I tend to feel ten movements in less than 15 minutes - but they are just more bum shuffles, the odd leg stretch and ticklish finger wiggles now rather than the big kicks of a fortnight ago.

Fatima don't worry - I was only stressing due to family history of big nigh on ten pounder+ babas who like to lie transverse during labour. My DH's Dad was 13lb - so I was very relieved to hear we don't seem to be following that trend.... 9lber much more common these days.

Tiago Sat 29-Sep-12 16:54:20

MM1 is is always always always worth getting these things checked. Don't feel silly.

daisy congratulations on your little boy.

tits and fatima I can join you in the severely pained club. DH actually got kicked out of bed and sent to the spare room last night because I now need the whole bed on which to build my pillow fort. I keep just trying to remember there's only 5 weeks to go (while hoping she can't wait beyond bother two...)

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 29-Sep-12 16:59:03

yw yes, go and get a check from your lurvely Orkeny midwives if things are not as normal. Midwife and scan says the baby is Left Occupant Anterior, so that can only be good, right?

YellowWellies Sat 29-Sep-12 17:33:52

Yes that's the best / one of the best positions for baby to be in! Awesome grin. Don't worry will do - don't feel that anything is wrong, am just noticing their movements change as the room lessens I think. Still getting lots of movement

kirrinIsland Sat 29-Sep-12 17:48:58

Glad all is well jaylee make sure you take it easy.

nervous it seems we are all thinking of you and hoping to hear from you soon. Xx

MissMummy1 Sat 29-Sep-12 17:52:12

How scary jaylee. Fc little one stays put for a while longer!

I am so glad I went in this morning. Although thankfully it was nothing serious it has been the massive wake up call that I need to slow down. Had a lovely afternoon chilling with my mum and now home to find my handsome man is finally home and has hoovered the whole house and is tidying the garage - result!

I'm meant to be going round to a friends for dinner and mocktails tonight. Still unsure on whether to cancel or not, but she's only a 15min drive away and I'm sure she wont mind me leaving early and after this morning's dramas I have done NOTHING

Passmethecrisps Sat 29-Sep-12 18:02:14

Cripes jaylee that sounds really scary. It is amazing what can be done though isn't it? Fingers crossed your wee one stays put for another wee while.

I am glad you got checked out MM. Take it easy.

Sorry to hear people are not feeling well. I think we all just need to accept that these next few weeks are going to be tough.

My DH is away on a stag do this weekend so I am all on my lonesome. Done some tidying, napping and telly watching. Neighbour has just popped round to ask if we need a cot/Moses basket/ pram etc! I wish I had spoken to her months ago! She is from a family of girls so I assumed that they would be sharing things but apparently they are all done. I don't know her very well so it was lovely of her to ask. There are wee bits and pieces we need so maybe I could relieve them of things.

I had thought about sorting out baby clothes this weekend. When I put them away I didn't know there was a difference between newborn and 0 to 3 so I just shoved everything in together. I need to have an audit really. It might make more sense to wait until the nursery is ready. Hmm.

Dh has had to go out for an emergency kfc, our oven broke while cooking dinner so had to throw away a whole meal which was such a waste.
It's heating up but not fully, bloody thing it's the second time it's broke since we lived here.

ShellyBobbs Sat 29-Sep-12 18:07:50

MM Glad to hear all is OK. I just can't be arsed doing anything at all, never mind putting on slap at night to go out grin

Jaylee Phew! Everyday counts now, so if your little girl does decide to put in an appearance at least she will be well looked after in hospital, we're in the 'safe' zone now. Glad they were able to stop it though, hope you're OK.

Nervous thinking of you, hope everything is OK.

Another exhausting day of doing nowt. Managed to bag up some crap from the kids room, made the youngest cry doing it and stuck about 5 loads in the washer and hung it out. Am very achy, sore and tender today, also have 5 7-8 year old giggling girls doing gymnastics in my front room smile

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sat 29-Sep-12 18:13:13

Glad to hear baby appears to be staying put Jaylee.

We've had a better afternoon, had a nap despite my intentions then had cuddles with DD. We've also done some colouring and cooking this arvo, trying to spend some nice time with DD while I can before am stuck on sofa with newborn!

About to FaceTime my extended family which is always nice - my parents live 300 miles away and my sisters visiting them - would have liked to have trekked up there too but it's MIL's 70th birthday tomorrow and so couldn't have done both. Still, a video call is the next best thing!

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 29-Sep-12 18:42:52

Am actually beginning to worry about nervous

kissyfur Sat 29-Sep-12 18:43:47

Me too sophia

ShellyBobbs Sat 29-Sep-12 19:15:09

Hopefully she's just resting.

TheDetective Sat 29-Sep-12 19:34:23

I just had a massive realisation this morning. I am 35 weeks. In 2 weeks, I could have a baby.


I'm not ready.

Right, all of you who are further on and far more organised than me. I've started to write a hospital bag list, could you look over it and suggest any additions and whether you think i'll have enough of what's listed.

I will hopefully be going to the birth centre where you tend to be out within a day so i'm hoping my stay won't be too long. If I stay longer i'm intending on having another bag in the car that DH can bring in.

My lists so far....

Labour bag
Maternity notes
Baby notebook
5 x Knickers
20 x Maternity pads
2 x Maternity mats
2 x pj bottoms
1 x pj vest top
1 x pj top
1 x big tshirt (Andrews)
Superdry Trackies
T shirt
Nursing bras
Dressing gown
Breast pads
Flip flops

Wash Bag
Shower gel
Tooth paste
Lip balm
Hair grips
Wet wipes

Babies bag
10 x Nappies
Small pack Wipes
Cotton Wool balls
2 x vests
2 x babygrow
Romper suit (going home)
2 x hats
Scratch mitts
Cellular Blanket
2 x Cardigans
1 x Muslin

DHs bag
Straws/sports bottle
iPhone charger

Overnight bag - keep in car
1 x pj bottoms
1 x pj vest top
1 x big t shirt
Trackie bottoms
2 x T shirts
5 x knickers
2 x vests
2 x babygrows
Cellular Blanket
1 pack nappies
1 pack Maternity pads
1 x muslin
Change of clothes for Andrew
Ugg boots

Car seat and mamas and papas blanket - keep in car

TheDetective Sat 29-Sep-12 19:37:43

Jaylee, good to hear baby is staying put for now! Irritable uterus is very very common, and baby is a good weight/gestation now, so if she did come early, she would need some special care, but not the intensive care of earlier gestations.

Hope Nervous is getting on ok, although I do know what the NHS cogs are like, so she could just be waiting for scan/doctor to review etc.

Fatima Your nursery is gorgeous! I love it! I'd happily sleep in there grin

rowingdowntheriver Sat 29-Sep-12 19:37:47

yellowellies, yep child benefit will be tapered above £50k as you lose 1% of the benefit for every £100 you or your partner earn over £50k. You can actually claim the benefit and get it paid but it will then be deducted from your DH through tax at the end of the tax year. An easier alternative is to elect to take the benefit but have it unpaid. Then, at the end of the tax year, if for whatever reason your DH does not go over the threshold you can ask for it to be paid to you in a single lump sum.

rowingdowntheriver Sat 29-Sep-12 19:38:44

nervous, hope you are ok. jaylee, glad you have been checked and are ok. Fc the baby stays put for a little while longer.

rowingdowntheriver Sat 29-Sep-12 19:41:05

fatima add jelly babies (great energy boost for when you are in labour!) and batiste dry shampoo to your list!

ShellyBobbs Sat 29-Sep-12 19:41:06

Here's a random post. I was queueing up in the garage yesterday having bought some petrol, my eyes were wandering about behind the counter and I looked at the price of fags over £8 a packet!! OMFG!! shock

Random post over.

Thanks Detective grin I love your stripey wall, I wanted to do something like that originally but it was too much effort with the wonky olden day walls so we went for lime green instead. I'm tempted to get a camp bed put up in there wink

Rowing I've got a mini dry shampoo so will add that as well as jelly babies. We're going to try keep a permanently stocked snacks and sweets cupboard so we can grab things from there, all though i'll probably eat it all and restock it 10 times over grin

shelly I know! I'm so glad I gave up smoking when I got preg with this one. Dh still smokes (not in the house may I add) and it just seems like money down the drain now.

fatima your list is great, mine is nowhere near that good <takes notes>

Passmethecrisps Sat 29-Sep-12 19:54:13

Really shelley? How can anyone afford that? I thought my boozing was expensive! Pre-pregnancy obviously.

I have just done my clothing audit and this is what we have:
13 vests
6 sleepsuits
3 jackets/snowsuits

0-3 months
9 vests
16 sleepsuits
1 snowsuit
2 nighties

Numerous Cardigans/hats etc

We need to get more sleepsuits for newborn I think.

I think I missed what was happening with nervous. I hope she and bump are well though.

I need DH to come back from stag do with our only case before I can pack my bag. Our hospital has an M&S so DH can do emergency runs for Percy Pigs.

Tomorrow, when I make the bed I am going to put a pad underneath my side. That will be my nod towards organisation and acceptance that I will actually be having a small person really pretty soon.

Passmethecrisps Sat 29-Sep-12 20:02:06

And fatima that list looks great. I hope you don't mind that I have pinched it for inspiration.

Cat, bump and I are now watching a film. Cat is pleased. Bump is oblivious.

YellowWellies Sat 29-Sep-12 20:13:29

DH has just built the travel system - am dead excited and surprised at how easy it is to take apart / add the carrycot / take off the carseat... even I can do it and I'm totally cack-handed.

Eeek still no news from nervous sad?

No Pass pinch away smile
I'm an avid list maker, helps me feel organised even if i'm not.
I'm jealous of the hospital M&S. We went on the hospital tour on Monday and I noticed there's an ice cream vending machine in the main entrance, DH is under strict instructions to buy me a twister ice lolly once the baby is here smile

Shelly I know what you mean about the cost. DH smokes although he has cut down and is hoping to quit. He smokes a cheaper brand but it's still £6.50ish for 20! But Regal etc are more around the £8 mark shock If he ever moans about me wanting to buy something, I always retort with the fact that I don't spend £25-30 a week on fags grin Normally shuts him up

LittleLolly Sat 29-Sep-12 20:48:38

fatima your list looks very similar to mine! I do like a good list. I was going to leave the baby's blanket in the car too, but then I thought if it is a freezing cold November day the blanket might get really cold before I cover baby with it? Or am I over thinking things?!

LittleLolly Sat 29-Sep-12 20:49:14

Gosh I hope nervous and baby are ok, and she posts soon

I hadn't thought of that Lolly. But it should warm up pretty quickly when DH brings it in with the car seat. Might be a complete PFB and make DH sit and warm the car up before coming back in to get us grin

YellowWellies Sat 29-Sep-12 21:16:55

I shouldn't worry too much about the car temperature - we'll be returning to a house with solid fuel heating that will take a couple of hours to get warm after DH lays the fire in the Rayburn - and we live off the Northern coast of Scotland!!!! Poor PFB YW....

ValiumQueen Sat 29-Sep-12 21:23:07

DD2 is unwell. On antibiotics since yesterday am for suspected UTI following seeing Dr about her sore patch on her bot, I was not convinced, but knew there was an infection. Awaiting urine test results. She had been fine, no temp, her usual self, just sore bot only bothering her at nappy changes or following a wee.

Today she had a low grade temp on waking, and has been a little swine all day. She had a nap about 4pm, and was clingy and tearful on waking, which she can be sometimes. Temp a bit higher, so we decided to give her some meds with her tea. She did not eat much, but enough to get meds down her. Threw up tea and fluids at 8pm. Lunch had passed through. Temp spiked when vomiting, but has since gone down to normal. A side effect of Trimethoprim can be high temp and mouth ulcers, which can be very serious. Tiny sore patch on tongue, and temp no higher that 38.1, and normal now so not overly concerned. Her breathing is good and steady.

She did look rather listless after vomiting, but managed a smile before falling asleep. Has had diarrhoea, so back in disposables (I am not stupid!) and this will make it easier to monitor output. I will call NHS24 overnight if she is worse, and deffo in the morning to see if she should continue to have antibiotics.

This parenting lark can be bloody hard work sometimes.

Passmethecrisps Sat 29-Sep-12 21:26:58

Oh VQ that sounds awful. Poor wee soul sounds like she is really suffering. I hope she gets better very soon

ValiumQueen Sat 29-Sep-12 21:35:18

Thank you. I want to sleep on her floor tonight, but DH says I cannot. I coped fine at 24 weeks with a broken leg, so figure I will be fine tonight. I would not sleep anyway if I were in our bed. He says she can sleep in with us, but I would be concerned if she were to overheat, and I do not want her being sick in our bed. Easier to wash her bedding. Need to set up a sick bay in one of their bedrooms I think, with two proper beds. I cannot sleep in her bed as it is a toddler bed.

Evilwater Sat 29-Sep-12 21:35:40

To the lady about the benifts - I'd love to even dream, of having anywhere that amount of money.
DH21- hope your oven gets sorted soon.
Fatima - that's loads more stuff than I have packed. confused
Jaylee- I'm glad everything is ok.
lolly - I've put a blanket in my bag, just incase it turns colder.

Today I've done a lot compared to the week, done food shopping for me, and nan. Then got lunch for my parents and sister. After that my sister took me out to get shrubs for the garden, as we walk down to the patio so we needed something to make the area safer.

I then planted them, in the flower bed where my cat goes. sad my MIL told me as I planted half of them. FFS angry
Finally I get to sit down and my cat sits on my bump, when DP turns up and picks her off me and says "you can catch stuff of the cat!" angry

My sister questions me on what type of nursey learning I would like, I have NO idea. Then she goes on about how my DP dosn't like our child to have loads of toys. I agree with him, but he HAD to go on about how he didn't even have shoes. She thinks he might be over controlling. Then it was about how I don't have a great releasonship with my MIL. All I said to her was, "I'm tired of trying"


Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 29-Sep-12 21:37:59

Your poor girls vq. I too would be dubious about the antibiotics, some just don't suit everyone.

Evilwater Sat 29-Sep-12 21:38:33

VQ- I hope she gets better soon.

kissyfur Sat 29-Sep-12 21:49:12

Hope your DD2 improves soon VQ poor thing. Hope tonight isn't too uncomfy for you and that you get some sleep

I hope she improves soon VQ. I would want to be sleeping close to her tonight too.

Just got home from a lovely meal with DP. I'm so full I can't move off the sofa. We went to a local Indian and the jalfrezi made my eyes water but it was very nice at the same time.

DP has to be up early for work but I'm too full to sleep at the moment.

kirrinIsland Sat 29-Sep-12 22:33:00

Hope she feels better soon VQ

MissMummy1 Sun 30-Sep-12 00:21:33

Just home. Knackered but lovely chilled evening. One of my friend's friends is a midwife and another is also preggers so it was a very chilled night. Bit concerned that DH is nowhere to be seen. There's a strange collection of musical instruments appeared in my lounge though and the car's still there so he must be on foot. Very confused confused ......

VQ hope your poor daughter is better soon xxx

GTbaby Sun 30-Sep-12 00:35:39

What a lazy day! Went to temple this am. Sitting on floor did my hips no good! 15mins n I was agony. But had 2nds of dessert in the dinning hall. Yum.
Came home n hip wouldn't stop hurting so came to bed to catch up on thread. Fell asleep. Woke at 7. Made dinner. N that's my day.

DH is starting to panic a little. As my bags not totally packed. So off we go to shops tomorrow to try buy last few bits. Think I'll get measured in MnS for bra. But order online. I'm quite big so need support, which is hard with no wire! Must start researching mat bras.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Sun 30-Sep-12 00:40:04

The best bras I ever bought for nursing were in debenhams. Miriam Stoppard ones, so supportive and I was wearing a 36FF. They do a non nursing version too GTbaby. I'd avoid M&S measuring at all costs!

Evilwater Sun 30-Sep-12 04:13:26

I'm still awake, with my right hip in pain. Grr....
I'd like some sleep now, please.

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 04:14:15

Thank you for your kind wishes ladies. It really does help x Her temp was down to normal by 9pm so I put her to bed in her room, but set up the cot mattress on the floor just in case. I checked on her each time I was up to the loo, as did DH, and she was fine until 3am. Slight temp, so I stayed in with her. Still not asleep by 3.45 so we came down and are now watching Peppa Pig and drinking juice. She seems pretty good. It is funny how yesterday she seemed like she was 10ft tall, but when poorly they seems so very small. She has not passed urine, which is not surprising. We will go to OOH this morning.

I hope to go back to bed when DH surfaces, but I did get a fairly good night sleep all things considered.

As new parents, you will have NHS24 on speed dial, and intimate knowledge of the Peppa Pig family. You will get stupidly excited when there is a new episode.

nervous I have a sneaky suspicion you may have graduated. I hope not, but if you have, I hope you are both doing ok x

MM naughty DH for going out and not telling you where. Hope he has come back safely, apologetic, and bearing gifts.

GT where I used to work, we were given hospitality free of charge by the local Temple for all our training, and we would be fed too. Training was extremely well attended because the food was out of this world! Nom Nom! I don't envy you the sitting on the floor though. Ouch.

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 04:16:59

Sorry you are awake evil I do hope you get some rest soon. Have you got a memory foam mattress or topper? I swear by mine. Even if you only had pennies for a single topper, it may be worth a try. I have had only the odd night disturbed by pain. It is usually DH, kids or my bladder. Or my sodding leg!

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 04:19:55

I know Home Bargains have singles for about £20.

Evilwater Sun 30-Sep-12 04:22:51

VQ- I have memory foam mattress. However the pain is keeping me up, that and the snoring. I'm also very glad your DD is doing well.

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 04:32:38

Snoring is no good! At least the pain will go when the baby comes, and you are very near your date. I had very bad hip pain with DD2 and even after having a section I was in less pain after than before, plus you can take Brufen for it once baby is out. Is there any way the snorer would be able to sleep elsewhere? You need the memory foam, but not the snoring! I find pointy elbows well placed to be quite effective when snoring is unbearable, then pretend to be asleep thus not being blamed.

Evilwater Sun 30-Sep-12 04:36:31

He will stop, but it was mainly the hip pain. I've drank some milk and I'm feeling a lot better. I think yesterday had a lot to with why I'm up now.

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 04:43:50

Yes. Not a good day for you - overdid it a bit, and family being difficult if I recall. Rest today if you can, and be unsociable if you can. And cuddle your cat as much as you damn well please!

I completely missed nervous going quiet. What was the last thing she said does anyone know? Did she go into hosp for any reason?

We're going round my parents house for roast dinner later as they're off on hols for 10 days to sunny Spain (not jel at all!)

Think ds is under the weather too he just constantly moans unless watching cbeebies either that or he's teething its hard to tell sometimes.

GT I'd recommend debenhams like Izzy. In fact I've got the Miriam Stoppard maternity bras and they're v supportive. My boobs aren't huge but are a large cup size with a small back size so I struggle in a lot of shops.
I'd also avoid M&S. There was a huge thread in style and beauty on bra size recently (not just maternity/nursing) and a lot of people have been measured completely worn by M&S.

Evil I sympathise with the hip pain and snoring. I ended up on the sofa again. I don't understand how a man can snore or breathe so loudly and not annoy himself like he annoys me angry
The sofa was comfier for my hips, lots of pillows to pad me, but not as comfortable for my lower back

TheDetective Sun 30-Sep-12 08:02:20

I was at the birth of a 36 week baby last night. It is getting scarier ladies... they are like proper newborns inside us now!!

I don't know why I am surprised. I guess it just doesn't seem real to me yet??!

Driving home this morning, I came across a man riding a bicycle down the motorway. What a total idiot! He just cycled across a slip lane without even looking! I had to pull over once off motorway and report it to police, it was so dangerous. Not even a helmet on!

I had a cheeky wee scan last night by one of our doctors, just to check the position for me! I was just chatting about it, and she offered to check - how lovely! And we have success! Head is down! He's ROT, which means his back is on the right, and he is looking directly sideways. He also had his hand by his face - which he has done on every scan! Guess he likes his hand! He isn't in the pelvis yet, so I have to work on some optimal positioning, but at least he's headed in the right direction grin


Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 30-Sep-12 08:09:09

I too would stay away from M & S, as the measuring is completely arse about tit and they have their own sizing regime so people keep going back and the bras are horrid. The best place I was ever measured was John Lewis adn I haven't looked back. And....I too would jump on the Miriam Stoppard bandwagon, I have had one over the last two pregnancies and I love it. (but not as much as my HotMilk but they are a bit pricey)

Off to see a friend from my antenatal course the first time round, 8years ago, today and hit Bicester Village for a Bit of Chrimbo shopping and lunch, sadly excited!


Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 30-Sep-12 08:10:20

And * detective* so the 36 weekend, was all ok, are they pretty much developed enough by then?

Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 30-Sep-12 08:10:47

That was meant to say weeker

TheDetective Sun 30-Sep-12 08:15:04

Yes, all was ok when I left. They do need extra close monitoring though, particularly with feeding and blood glucose levels. Also they often have breathing issues - but generally other than that, they are fine.

TheDetective Sun 30-Sep-12 08:16:04

Any feeding/respiritory issues usually resolve themselves with in a few days though.

horseylady Sun 30-Sep-12 09:20:14

I was so busy yesterday! Got in from job 2 at 1am dh had been out drinking and kept coughing sad then hiccoughing. So barely any sleep for me sad at job 2 shortly and really don't want to go!!

Vq hope your lo is better

JAylee very scary!!

Evil hope your pain subsides!!

Iheartpasties Sun 30-Sep-12 09:54:46

jaylee wow, that must have been really scary!

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 10:06:32

Dr agrees likely reaction to antibiotic, so now on another. Still low grade fever, but much better now. Kids eh! Who'd have 'em!

NervousAt20 Sun 30-Sep-12 10:19:12

Morning all, thankyou for all your thoughts, thankfully everything is okay they gave me lots of monitoring and I had a scan and baby's heart beat stayed nice and regular which was a massive release, she still wasn't keen on moving much and just refused in the scan but there happy that all is well smile the little mite has changed positions though and is now breech, she was head down and she's back to back aswell so I have to go back to the hospital in 2 weeks for another scan and a antenatal clinic to see if she's moved around. Glad everything's okay missmummy

Going back to catch up on the thread

Iheartpasties Sun 30-Sep-12 10:29:31

nervous glad all is good for you - a shame she is breech though!

horseylady Sun 30-Sep-12 10:39:41

Nervous - pleased all is ok!!! Apart from breach but she might turn!! Must be a relief for you

Passmethecrisps Sun 30-Sep-12 10:42:10

Great news nervous! I am very pleased everything is ok.

Similarly vq it must be a relief to have her on the mend a bit.

Passmethecrisps Sun 30-Sep-12 10:44:46

Oh and horsey is it possible for you to take it easy at work? I sympathise with the hiccuping DH. My DH can snore so loudly he waked himself up. He does respond well to a wee poke in the ribs though.

NervousAt20 Sun 30-Sep-12 10:52:00

Just caught up on the thread, sorry to have left you ladies worrying, I completely crashed yesturday and just slept on the sofa and feel much better for it but thank you all for thinking of us it's lovely of you

jaylee hope your okay and LO stays put. Get lots of rest too

I swear we will all be grey and aged an extra 10years with worry and stress over these LO before they even arrive

VQ your poor DD, sounds like she's having such a tough time at the moment with school and now she's ill. I really hope you get somewhere with the school first an they put some proper care in place to protect your DD and that she feels better soon

So pleased you and baby are ok nervous. You had me worried for a while.

It looks like I may have a wedding to plan smile I have been with DP for nine years now and we have been engaged for most of that. Do we get a prize for longest engagement? Next year we will have been together for ten years and with the little one on the way he wants to make everything official. Finally.

Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 30-Sep-12 11:22:44

Phew nervous welcome back glad everything is ok.

vq hope things look better with the new antibiotic.

Just lunching DS then off for my ladies lunch in Biscester! grin

kirrinIsland Sun 30-Sep-12 11:26:16

Great to hear from you nervous - glad all is well.

Iheartpasties Sun 30-Sep-12 11:37:33

apple CONGRATS!!!!

Passmethecrisps Sun 30-Sep-12 11:54:58

Hooray apple! We were together 10 years and had a 6 month engagement. Wedding planning is great fun. Enjoy!

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 11:56:21

I still have 5 little girls in my house. It's all wearing a bit thin now. Roll on 3pm when the last one goes home blush

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 11:59:05

Apple congrats!

I'm not one of those women who enjoyed planning my wedding, I didn't even bother with invites, just told everyone to tell everyone to come to the reception (we got married in Cornwall with a very small group of people). Thankfully that was nearly 12 years ago now. As presents we got people to organise and chip into the buffet, DJ and room hire, we didn't have to organise anything at all. Suited me down to the ground grin.

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 11:59:48

Hence to say, the reception was back up here where we live, not in Cornwall smile

Evilwater Sun 30-Sep-12 12:07:21

apple- yay! I hope you enjoy your wedding plans.
shelly - not long to go, just three hours.

I had a rotten night, and I'm pissed of with my sister. She gave her look! WTF! And I'm pissed at me to for not yelling at her, but we were in a cafe.
I'm tired and angry, I'm too tired to yell, and to angry to sleep.

Well I'll try and get some rest. So much for resting.....

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 12:09:41

Free Tena lady samples here freebies

Thought it may be fitting for us at this time in our pregnancy, although some of us won't be receiving them until after the birth as they take up to 28 days smile

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 12:10:11

2 hrs 50 Evil grin

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 12:35:04

Good news nervous thankfully it is a different DD who is ill, so they are sharing the troubles. Little one is doing very well today, and loves the new antibiotics. Strange child.

And congratulations apple I loved planning my wedding, and even made my own dress. My mum did not even see it before the day, and she said I looked like a whore. I said to her that was just the reaction I wanted! Seriously, it was grin

kissyfur Sun 30-Sep-12 12:54:24

Glad to hear all is well nervous

Congrats apple! DP and I have been together 13 and a half years, got engaged in 2008, so you beat us on length of engagement grin Hopefully I'll be planning a wedding next year too, so far every time I've started thinking about it, a baby has come along instead and we've had to put plans on hold.

We have been together a long time but have had plenty of ups and downs like everyone I suppose. A year ago we were going through the most difficult time and came very close to splitting. I would never have believed at the time that a year later I would be close to having our first baby and planning a wedding. Funny how quickly things can change isn't it?

It will be a very small wedding with the minimum of fuss. Neither of us are the partying type and we are both private people who don't like a lot of attention.

shock grin VQ you do make me laugh!

kirrinIsland Sun 30-Sep-12 13:14:22

Congratulations apple smile

nervous glad everything is ok, little pickle being breech though! Hope she starts moving around a bit more.

apple congrats! Great fun planning a wedding.

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 13:43:15

New weird craving alert!!!

Am I wrong to want to eat the liquid soap? It's lovely limey scent and I really, really want to eat it!

Hubby has just been out and bought me a huge bag of chocolate limes, they seem to be keeping it at bay for now, but what about the middle of the night? I nearly had a taste in the early hours today. Am I strong enough?.........

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 13:44:17

And I really need a poo but it's rabbit droppings today. And I'll have to wash my hands with the soap..........

Iheartpasties Sun 30-Sep-12 13:45:13

We ordered our car seat/capsule thingy yesterday and bought a pram today (well its from ebay so just fingers crossed its nice when we go and pick it up!!). Then thats it - all shopping done and dusted! yikes.

Bought snacks for my hospital bag today as well! Just got to find the actual bag, its gotta be under a bed or in a cupboard somewhere!!

Iheartpasties Sun 30-Sep-12 13:49:51

shelly the soap will taste of soap and not of limes!!!! hahaha, yucksville.

We have spent a lovely sunny day spring cleaning, so boring. But I am so glad its been done. Poor dh! But it's done and roll on public holiday tomorrow so we can do something nice hopefully.

Upstairs have just had some noisy sex, bluergh, and next door are having a party. Joy!!

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 13:58:51

shelly yuk! Perhaps a mental health assessment is called for! grin. Please resist the urge as it would taste horrible, and not be good for you or baby.

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 14:02:29

I met DH 10 years ago next June. Took him 8 months to propose, and we married 16 months later. DD1 was born a week before our first wedding anniversary. We are very old though, so did not have time to hang around.

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 14:08:08

Hehe, I know in my head that it will just be soapy, but it's like I've got to prove that to my tongue grin

I was 'just good friends' with my hubby for 5 years, then we got really drunk one night and I ended up back at his, I never went home again. Six months later he proposed, 2 years after that I got an engagement ring, then a year later we got married. We are still best mates and a bit yukky too, must be really to be still having babies after all this time grin.

Iheartpasties Sun 30-Sep-12 14:08:20

my friend had her baby a few weeks ago and we got to meet her for thr first time on thursday - i think she was 2 weeks old and only just weighed the same as my dd did at birth, she was literally tiny and gorgeous. She looked like she would break!!! awwwwww.

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 14:21:05

shelly I like the 'never went home again' grin

Sometimes I have the urge to put my hand in a liquidiser just to see what would happen. I do not own a liquidiser. It is a mad mad thought. I think I prefer the soap idea.

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 14:26:25

VQ I've always wanted to eat an eyeball because I want to crush it with my teeth and hear a massive 'pop'! I'm also a veggie grin. I think I prefer the soap too!

ValiumQueen Sun 30-Sep-12 14:31:52

shelly that is gross! grin our minds are fascinating. Some more than others possibly.

shelly reminds me of when I moved in with DP although we had been together about 18 months I think. I said to him one day that I didn't want to go home and he said 'don't go home then' so I didn't.

In April it will be ten years but I'll still only be 26 hence we have never been in a rush to have babies and get married. We knew we would get there one day though and have discussed both things pretty much since day one.

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 14:47:41

I was 25 when I had our first, it's a perfect age.

Don't think I'd stretch to a blender though grin

Passmethecrisps Sun 30-Sep-12 14:58:56

When I was a child I once licked one of my dad's steradent tablets thinking it would be minty deliciousness. It wasn't and I had instant diarrhoea. Could solve the poo problem . . .

My DH and I met at 17 at uni. We were friends until we were 21 when I went to visit him in London. I was very stressed about making sure I took a sleeping bag so as no to give the wrong impression. My best friend said "a sleeping bag? Darling don't even take pyjamas". She told this story in her speech as my best woman and informed everyone that the jammies came home unused. Not sure what the parents thought but I suppose they can't complain - together nearly 12 years so we can't have gone far wrong.

We knew we wanted to start trying for a baby pretty quickly after getting married but for some reason both of us were convinced it would take months. I had it sort of scheduled for about now. One honeymoon pregnancy later, I am just pleased all those years of frantic contraception use was worth our while!

Weddings are like babies I reckon. Everyone will tell you how it should be done but, in the end, it's all about you and your wee family and nothing else matters

ShellyBobbs Sun 30-Sep-12 15:24:26

I've now had a giant poo smile will keep the steradent in mind though....