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April 2013- part 3 scan scan scan

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trying2bpos Fri 21-Sep-12 12:16:29

Started a new thread for all us April ladies.

ratbagcatbag Fri 21-Sep-12 12:23:08

Hello, shiny new thread it feels like only about 10 mins ages since I was on the last one smile

With names if DH didn't get a say, a boy would be Chase, but I have worn hm down over the years for him to concede it as a middle name, I love pretty girls names, but we can't really agree, although as I said Lucy seems to be front runner for us.

A few more of us will be going for the suprise then, yey, not just me on my own waiting for the outcome.

I did frighten myself this morning and venture onto some labour info, OMG, I wish I hadn't, I don't have a pain threshold at all, not even a tiny tiny one, I scream or proper cry at everything and I will never ever ever ever get through labour - eeeeeek!!

trying2bpos Fri 21-Sep-12 12:26:48

yay ratbag you found me! Hopefully the others will be along shortly, I completely hadn't realised I was going to be the last to post.

You can and you will get through labour and remember there's lots of different pain relief options.

trying2bpos Fri 21-Sep-12 12:33:58

BTW here is where I found the 1 in 8 for women 40-44 for downs screening (http://www.wolfson.qmul.ac.uk/epm/screening/integrated.html), it is actually the probability of a screen positive result, anyone medical out there that can translate this into risk for me as I assume it isn't the same thing as all their numbers seem very high?

somewherebecomingrain Fri 21-Sep-12 12:41:58

hi trying that must be the likelihood of needing to have a further test eg amnio or cvs. but the chance of actually having a downs baby is much lower. I get it now.

I had my scan today - baby looked good and normal apparently. Nuchal was 1mm - not bad for an old lady mum like me. Can't ask for much better. It was relatively early 11+1 so would likely go up to 1.2 or 1.3 between 11 and 14 weeks.

Am pleased, but have to wait 2 weeks for the bloods so going to go for a private scan next thurs - i just can't wait any more.

re gender i want to know. i really want a girl. but my DP doesn't want to know. never mind we've got 9 weeks to decide.


Missmuffet28 Fri 21-Sep-12 12:43:21

Oh my ladies it's only been a few days since I last caught up on the thread an there's a new one already!! It's taken over an hour to read from where I left off I had to have a little nap in between also shhh....

Yay to all those that have had great scans and hugs to those that are feeling poo at the moment!!

Anyone else have their scan around 11th oct?? I neeeeed a countdown buddy too!! This can't come quick enough! Everyone I talk to I appear un-excited and quite laid back about this whole pregnancy thing but really I'm absolutely bursting inside with excitement!!! I guess I just want to have the good news before I start showing my delight publicly???

I tried travel sick bands for a couple of days they did nothing for me except make me hot cos I had to wear a jumper to hide them!

Last couple of days I have craved chicken tikka slice from the microwave and orange lucozade sport (welcome relief to water to be honest) lol but its varying all of the time! Anyone else get this? Or are you sticking to same craving?

Pink or blue??? Have had convo with dp he say he would like a girl as that's all he knows he already has one I'm not bothered really I have a boy already so would like a girl but on the other hand would like a boy just for dp so that he has one?? Is that mad? My mum desperately wants a grand daughter tho lol!!!

Ooh names well haven't had that convo with dp but I have had it with myself hehe!! For girls I like Imogen, molly, ruby, amber and Brooke and boys I like Oscar, max and Toby at the moment Oscar being my fave but as I haven't spoken to dp I guess I better not get ahead of myself
look forward to hearing about more scans its uplifting to read about them!

birdbrain17 Fri 21-Sep-12 12:49:53

Hiya just checking in to our new thread we need to keep it active so everyone can find us...
Can't believe people are talking about names with DH already I'm still trying to persuade mine that this is a real situation and we're going to have a baby! I also told him off because he said how can he love it before it's born?! Was trying to explain to him that just because it's a wriggling blob on a screen at the moment we can't love it...Anyone else already totally loving their little one?I keep on rubbing my little bump like it knows I love it, so excited I'm much happier now I had a scan this week no tears all week and it's Friday!!!!

ratbagcatbag Fri 21-Sep-12 13:00:11

In fairness birdbrain, I've been hypothetically discussing names with my DH for ten years, when even for six of them I never wanted kids lol, so we may have had a head start smile

aufaniae Fri 21-Sep-12 13:07:27

I asked DS (3.8) what he'd like best if we made him a brother or a sister (haven't actually told him I'm pregnant yet) and he said he'd like a little sister and a big brother!

Not sure he's quite understood how this all works yet ... grin

JessieEssex Fri 21-Sep-12 13:08:51

Just checking in! Whoever mentioned being cold, I'm freezing! I was shivering in front of the telly last night with the heating on full blast and wearing a big jumper. Then woke up in the night because I was too hot...?!

Re pink or blue, I don't think we're going to find out - we didn't for DD, but we might be persuaded otherwise at the last minute! I really want another girl, but I think that it's only because that's I'm used to iyswim. I know I would love a little boy just as much! We have a couple of names that we really like but have a while to think of more yet!


Is anyone suffering with back pain yet? Off and on For the last couple of weeks I've been getting aching pains in my lower back, hips and bum!! I'm hoping its all fairly normal, and just every thing moving around in there, but wondered if anyone else had the same?

Oops, 12+0

trying2bpos Fri 21-Sep-12 13:38:16

aufaniae bless your DS, does he understand that he will be the big brother?

Congrats on the scan and low NT somewhere and thanks for the clarification on the downs stats. Hope the tests go well for you next week. I have my scan at antenatal on Tues so should be able to get the NT result there and then hopefully.

Tricky about wanting to know the sex if DP not on board. I think I would have found out last time but DH didn't want to and I wouldn't feel right finding out with the 2nd when we didn't with the 1st. You could always ask your dentist LOL hmm.

trying2bpos Fri 21-Sep-12 13:39:14

Congrats on reaching the magical 12 weeks today IFAt we cross posted.

Aww thanks trying2bepos, I sent a text to my Mum and best friend this morning (2 of the very few people who know) announcing that I was officially 12 weeks today. Feels like I'm getting birthday greetings or something, with all the congrats smile

Can't wait for scan date!!

Ollibobs Fri 21-Sep-12 15:01:32

Hi everybody,
I've been reading/lurking for a few weeks now and thought I should say hi. <waves shyly>
May I join in?
I'm 9+2 with DC1 after having IVF.
Despite having a few scans already due to the treatment, am still a bundle of nerves until I hit the 12-week mark.
Feeling a fun combination of nausea, exhaustion and constant hunger, but I'm so grateful to be actually pregnant (the infertility/IVF roller coaster was intense), that when I feel normal I start to worry. Sod's Law, I guess.
I must admit though, I'm finding it reassuring reading everyone's posts.

MrsJohnDeere Fri 21-Sep-12 15:03:17

Ifat - congrats n teaching the magical 12 week milestone. Feels like an eternity away for me yet!

Saw GP this morning so am now officially pg. BP too high already, which is a bit of a worry (it is absolutely fine when I'm not pg).

usernamegoeshere Fri 21-Sep-12 15:14:40

welcome ollibobs

Ifat my lower back aches a bit if I am standing still for too long & I am only 10 weeks, but it started aching from before I even knew. Mind you, I get achey lower back each month when due on period too so I guess I am quite prone.


kellestar Fri 21-Sep-12 15:17:32

New scan date arrived this morning for 7pm on the 7th October. Which sounds like ages away, but it's not really. We won't be finding out what sex we are having. Didn't with DD. I have found my list of names from when I had DD, plenty of ideas for girls but boy's names are still hard. We'd only agreed on a girl name once she arrived. I like old fashioned names like Doris [my great gran], Edith and Florence.

MS has been awful today, I've been puking since I got up and haven't stopped all day, I've also developed an evil cough, which isn't helping as the coughing is leading to puking.

MiL came over to help me out and DD has gone home with her, but not before she bent my ear. According to her I need to grow up, MS isn't that bad she's been through it 3 times. I'm not supporting my family by acting this way. DH has enough on his plate with work and I'm just making things worse. I'm also not being fair on DD, I should be playing with her more. I should also be doing the housework. She said this while I was hugging the toilet bowl retching into it. Seriously wanted to tell her to fuck the fuck off, but no-one else to have DD for me, I was puking at the time and I know she doesn't mean it. She has foot in mouth, where she always regrets what she says.

I called DH in tears, and he'll have words with her. A friend has just popped over to rant about her MiL to be and her impending wedding and didn't mind me running off for puking and ranting about MiL [who happens to be BF with her MiL].

Now watching Season 2 of ER with a blanket and hot bot. Sorry for epic post. Will try to read up on this new thread though, it got a but crazy at the end of the last one.

Teapig Fri 21-Sep-12 15:44:12

Welcome to the newbies.

Oh my gosh kellestar, you poor thing. I can't believe you MiL said all that, especially when you had your head down the loo. Take no notice and take it easy.

I'm totally dreading my work trip in a couple weeks. It's very fun travelling on my own and I'm feeling like a right old home body at the moment. It feels like this horrible blot on the horizon at the moment, can't wait to get it over with.

Just polished off a late late lunch of jacket potato, bacon and boursin - yum.

We won't find out which flavour we're having, & if we're anything like whe we had ds and dd we will name the baby in the delivery room. We only had a boys name for ds and a girls name for dd, and even then we weren't sure until I gave birth!!

Teapig Fri 21-Sep-12 15:46:45

Err, that should have been not very fun. Just made myself giggle at the idea that 'it's very fun travelling on my own' - I sound like someone out of Enid Blyton.

trying2bpos Fri 21-Sep-12 15:51:29

oh kelle you poor thing that sounds terrible. Thank god my MIL doesn't live closer as she has habit of saying wrong thing, like ooo were you like that as a child (about DS) because none of my 3 were! Obviously when he's creating a fuss or really just being a one year old!

I also think about myself some of the things your MIL said about you and I haven't even been sick just nauseous and completely exhausted! Just ignore her she's probably happy to have your DD to herself and feeling all superior because she thinks you NEED her! Sometimes it just takes wind out of their sails if you just agree and go oh yes yes I am a bit ...... aren't I! Glad your DH is supportive!

So have I got this straight your MIL is best friends with your friends MIL to be? Spooky!

Good ole George will make you feel better. Enjoy!

trying2bpos Fri 21-Sep-12 15:54:35

bacon and boursin teapig sounds yummy I've got an orange sitting on my desk to look forward to.

I wonder when my next graze box is coming!

LoobyLou33 Fri 21-Sep-12 15:59:47

Hello new thread...we're getting through these fast eh? Welcome olibobs, nice to hear you're pg after ivf

kelle can't believe your MIL! how dare she tell you that stuff? You've been so ill, it's not what you need. RUDE!

I'm always moaning about nausea..sorry!! Just finding it hard to keep on top of this week. Usually I eat and it gets a bit better, but at the mo, I feel rough even while/after eating. Perhaps I'm leaving it too late to munch by which time it's got too bad? Anyone else finding it's bad no matter what?

Mama1980 Fri 21-Sep-12 16:27:52

Marking my place smile

EssexWelsh Fri 21-Sep-12 17:03:50

Me too, marking place before I nap, as my mum coming to visit. Is it wrong to tell DP to keep it down as he is clattering dishes and hoovering while I try to sleep grin

AuntyDiluvian Fri 21-Sep-12 17:06:11

Hi everyone - v jealous of all the scans and 12-week milestones, I'm 8+3 and had my booking-in appointment yesterday. Off for a music festival with friends this weekend and feeling incapable of lying, and they'll definitely notice the lack of booze. I want to tell the people who might have mixed feelings gently rather than blurt it out in a group, but also don't really want to tell anyone yet. Urg!

steph2412 Fri 21-Sep-12 17:12:23

Hi all not posted for ages as been feeling so rough!got scan on 2nd october when i will be 12weeks cant wait it still seems ages away!anyone else feeling emotional ive just found myself crying for no reason?also been shoppin today got some maternity clothes as there was a big sale on in asda so thought i might aswell take advantage!i have also lost 9lbs since finding out but my tum still seems to b sticking out!hope everyone is well :-)

BonaDea Fri 21-Sep-12 17:28:58

Hello new thread! Can't believe we're on mark 3 already...

Pebble2012 Fri 21-Sep-12 17:32:35

Hello...Congrats for all of us smile! My EDD is Mid April. First Baby and we have been trying for a while. My 12 wks scan is due on the 28th. I am very lucky with morning sickness since I do not have any.
I had other issues though so it has not been as relaxing and happy as I thought it will be. I had a dodgy blood test so my entire left arm is bruised. I was looking after my friend`s son...next day my friend rang with concern annoncing that her son has chicken pox... I rushed to the GP for another blood test checking for antibodies...I am waiting for my result.I did have chicken pox when I was 3-4 yrs old so it should be fine..still a worry though.
I am also on a certain medication which I cannot stop taking even through pregnancy.Apparently it is one of the safest of its kind so we are positive however it is always on the back of my mind. Anyway that is enough of worrying..it is a miracle and I cannot wait to walk around with a lovely little bump!

Flosshilde Fri 21-Sep-12 17:35:19

Marking place for later when I will catch up.

ratbagcatbag Fri 21-Sep-12 17:54:03

Grrrr, my appetite has just come back with a vengeance and you lot talking about boursin did it!!! Tea has been a pile of crackers, buttter, cheese spread and boursin, mmmmmm, mmmmm!!

Giddypants Fri 21-Sep-12 17:55:45

Ooooooo shiny new thread, I've spent all day socialising with one friend or another, it's great to have a catch up. And I had a little snuggle with a 13 week old grin

It's very odd this time round, I knew DS was a boy instantly but had a scan to confirm, DH has no idea he was a boy as he wanted a surprise, that was hard to keep quiet! This time I have no vibes either way but DH is convinced its a girl
I don't think we are going to find out this time because I found out last time and I felt like the wind was taken out of my sails a bit IYKWIM but each to their own.

As far as names go(these are not set in stone)
For a girl DH likes Darcy or Lauren, I like Eden or Erin
For a boy we are stumped I quite like Oliver which goes nice with DSs name but then we know many of them

And yes yes yes to feeling cold DH is saying I'm being a soft southerner with my big wolly jumper flease blanket and hot water bottle. (he's too stingy to put the heating on before November) hmm

wishfulthinking1 Fri 21-Sep-12 18:01:38

Hi all-
Still feeling rough, but am on the mend! And it's Friday! Hooray!

11+5 today, scan is now less than a week away! One of my best friends had here little daughter today- so cute! It's also my and dh 2 month wedding anniversary today- so lots to celebrate! Had a phone call from a colleague... asking if I was pg... We're fairly close but I had decided not to tell her until after scan, but she put 2 and 2 together and I didn't want to lie.. Just so hope everything is ok on thursday!

We've not talked names/ gender preferences - we're trying not to get too excited until after scan.... But then I can't imagine we'll talk about much else!


LikeCandy Fri 21-Sep-12 18:20:17

pebble we're scan buddies - only a week to go now! hurry up 28th!!

It's nice to see that other people are thinking about names, DH and I have very different taste so we need to find out b or g or we can start narrowing down ASAP! ratbag I love the name Chase, may or may not have something to do with House MD!!

I got my mat prescription exemption card through the post today, just in time for a dental visit! I can't believe it lasts so long although I am secretly hoping that I'll be expecting number two within the year!

I have an achey back too - just had a bath which didn't help!

So pleased its the weekend - enjoy it everyone!


magictorch Fri 21-Sep-12 18:25:11

Welcome Ollibobs and congrats on being here after IVF. I'm here with DC1 after four rounds of treatment- it's an amazing feeling isn't it?

Kelle I'm staggered at your MIL. I thought mine had some brass neck, but that really takes the biscuit!

Steph yes, can totally relate to the crying. I was eating my rice crispies this morning when some lovely old dears in a care home came on the news and that set me off in floods

We won't be finding out which flavour we're having. DH would be keener on a boy though I think. Sweepstake so far is all for boys, with just my Dad thinking it's a girl. A friend even did a tarot reading and that came up boy.

Names, I've had a girls name picked out for years: Georgia Mary Ann, although I also love Lucy and Imogen.

If we have a boy, DH is insisting we call it after his friend that committed suicide, but I feel terrible as I really don't like the name, it doesn't go with our fathers' names which we want as middle names and I'd rather give them their own name than after something so sad. I want to respect DH though, so it's a bit of a dilemma. He refuses to consider anything else sad


wishfulthinking1 Fri 21-Sep-12 18:52:08

magictorch- that's a hard conversation to have with your dh. Could you compromise and have his friends name as a middle name? It's a lovely way to honour his friend, but it is a bit morbid- especially if it's not something you want to do.

I think I forgot to say, I weighed myself on the Wii the other day- thought it would be fun to track weight gain. Bastard thing says I've lost 3lb (the only time in life I actually want to gain weight!) so, I decided it was broken. Dh weighed himself and it said he'd gained 7lb. So he agreed.... It must be broken!

magictorch Fri 21-Sep-12 19:06:06

I've suggested that wishful but he's not keen. I think it is the morbidness of it all that's giving me the shivers.

Still, it's early days...there's 28 weeks of persuading opportunities left!

somewherebecomingrain Fri 21-Sep-12 19:33:03

god i can't keep up with you young ladies - this thread moves so fast!
kellestar that's just awful. my sympathies. i nearly kill my DP when he tries tentatively to suggest its all in my head and maybe a bit of positive mental attitude is needed. that is an outrage.
ollibob brilliant, welcome, wonderful.

crying - i cried this morning when a woman got faint in the scan reception and someone brought her chair - the humanity got to me! i cry at my son's DVDs.

sickness - blah curse you! yes nothing i do helps. i am having better days but there is very little pleasure in food when everything you eat, even things you've really craved, you loathe for ever after. The exception is nachos.


itsaruddygame Fri 21-Sep-12 19:35:03

Kelle - MIL is outrageous - she is lucky you did not flip out ... I think I would have lost it!

Had my scan today and there is another wiggly April baby on the way! Legs and arms were going as well as some full body waves smile we also heard the heartbeat and the nuchal measurement was 1.2 so feeling much less worried now.

Due date changed to 3rd April and I am now officially 12 weeks and 2 days : )

LoobyLou33 Fri 21-Sep-12 20:03:58

I have been saved by a kedgeree cooked by DH. The first meal I have enjoyed in a month! grin

Oh yes, the emotions...I couldn't watch a paralympics advert or event without crying!

People were posting about dreams...2 nights ago I dreamed I was going to a wedding, but explained to the hosts that as DC2 was due that day, we'd need to make sure there was some mashed potato and carrot available at the reception for him/her as they'd be hungry. I was obviously expecting to give birth at the wedding! NB This is nothing on the sleep-deprivation dreams you will have with a newborn!

10 + 1

Pebble2012 Fri 21-Sep-12 20:24:09

smile LikeCandy keep me posted! I am fighting with my tears every time I think of the scan..even now...hormons I quess...

11 wks: Your baby is now around 4cm(1.6in)long, about the length of your thumb.He or She has 20 tiny tooth buds, as well as toenails and fingernails.Altough we cannot feel it yet the baby is already kicking,streching and moving around. How sweeet..

usernamegoeshere Fri 21-Sep-12 20:42:57

so tired... so, so tired. I'll be off now till Oct 1st I think which is quite good since it means I might be a bit distracted before scan. So I hope everyone has a nice week with more great scans!

angeltattoo Fri 21-Sep-12 21:32:27

Hi all,

Marking my place on our third thread!

magictorch you H sholdn't be refusimg to consider anything else; my husband and I have a rule, if one of us likes/wants something and the other doesn't, we continue to discuss until we reach a compromise that both of us are happy with - that's how a partnership works!

A lot of people, including a friend who visited a psychic, thinks we're having a boy, I started off thinking girl, now I don't know!

We really just want a safe birth and healthy baby, previously we have said that H would love a boy, I would love a girl, but ultimately now we're actually having a baby we will of course love whatever is coming!

And yes to PP, I love the baby already, and my husband turned around earlier this week and said the same thing, so sweet - he's amazing!

Have been very sick today, it's my birthday tomorrow, but no champagne for me!

angeltattoo Fri 21-Sep-12 21:37:57

Sorry magictorch reading that back sounds harsher than I meant it to, it is lovely that your H wants to remeber and honour his friend, but I just meant that you need to be happy too!

We are looking at moving at the moment, every house we look at, H says 'baby in box room, big room for guests', which I think is ridiculous - why would you put your child, who lives in your permanently, in a tiny room, and guests which we will never have, as we are moving to the same town where both our families and all of our friends live in a big room? But like you say, there are many months to work on him!

magictorch Fri 21-Sep-12 21:44:22

Angel no, you didn't come across as harsh, you're quite right. It's just a very emotive subject for him and I do understand where he's coming from. Maybe I'll be persuaded to like the name more...after all it's his baby too smile

He's being very sweet in all other aspects - even bent down to talk to my tummy the other day. I think it's a wee bit early for baby to hear voices yet, but it was very cute to see. Sometimes I wake up and he has his hand resting gently on my tummy grin

Hope all the sicky ladies feel better soon. I've just had terrible headaches and nausea, so feel like I've gotten away with it so far. (That'll jinx it!)

Wow ladies you can chat! grin

Finally got time to catch up with all your news. Welcome and congrats to all the new arrivals!

I've been reading bits here and there but I have had such bad nausea and dizziness, constantly, all day everyday, it's a bit hard to concentrate. I had an early scan last Friday at 8+3 as I had some brown spotting the previous evening and that morning. I wasn't too fussed tbh as had it in last 2 pregnancies but MW wanted me checked out. All was fine smile got a pic of my little gummy bear, that's exactly what it looked like!

Yesterday was a bit of a break through, I felt well for most of the day shock horror! Thought I was finally turning a corner. Until I was woken up at 4.30am this morning with awful stomach pains. Rang NHS direct, made doc appointment, crawled there and got sent to A&E. Now stuck in hospital with suspected appendicitis sad on the plus side they scanned me to rule out anything pregnancy or women related so I saw gummy bear again! Now have to wait until morning to see the surgeon and find out the plan of action. It blooming well hurts!

Well sorry I can't remember names etc, usually I write stuff down as I read it but alas no pen or paper sat here.

Congrats on all the fab scan news though and good luck to you all for the upcoming ones. It's amazing just how much you can see at 12 weeks.

Hope you're all feeling less morning sicky soon. It's just bloody awful isn't it? I don't think people realise just how bad it feels, especially men!

Oops think I just wrote an essay so I'm off to beg for more pain relief so I can attempt sleep. Will check back in soon x


edinfirst Fri 21-Sep-12 23:44:53

Oh notshort what a rollercoaster few days. So glad your gummy bear (cute!) is doing well, but just wanted to say hope you get pain relief/sleep/speedily better in case you can't sleep and check back in. Keep us posted - fx you'll be back on your feet in no time thanks

bunnygirl80 Sat 22-Sep-12 01:43:53

notshort hope you find out what's wrong soon. At least you got to see your little gummy bear a couple of times though

ollibob congrats and welcome

Good to hear of more good scans

As for gender preference, I'm not too bothered at the moment. With DS I really really wanted a girl, I actually cried with disappointment after the scan when he waved his little boy parts at us. Of course, I love him dearly and wouldnt change him for the world now, and can't imagine why I was so set on having a girl. This time I'd sort of like a girl, as I would like to have a DD, but another boy would be way more practical as he can just wear all of DS's hand me downs, and they'll eventually be able to go to the same school (we've already decided we'd prefer single sex school for high school)

Name wise, we used the only boys name we like for DS, so I'm not sure what we'll choose. Thomas and Oliver were back up names for DS, so would probably use one of those.

For a girl I love Catherine, but DS is a William, and I think we'd just be opening ourselves up to people assuming we're royal family obsessed loons grin. I also like Charlotte, but DH doesn't, and Rebecca.

Saw a fb announcement from some of my uni friends yesterday, announcing they're expecting DC2 in April. Now I'm spending my time trying to figure out of any of you are her......

Pontouf Sat 22-Sep-12 08:14:17

NotShort, you poor thing! I hope you had an ok night and get to the bottom of it today.

Welcome to Ollibobs.

Had my scan yesterday, was so amazing to see this tiny baby just kicking away. So weird to see it moving so much when I can't feel anything! DH very nearly missed it though! We had a horrendous night with DS (22mo) on Thursday night, he was up and very distressed for no obvious reason. Think he must have had a bad dream that really upset him and then he got so worked up that he was sick all over his cot (and all his bedding, teddies etc). We just couldn't console him for long and in the end DH ended up taking him downstairs and they both fell asleep in front of a DVD at around 4.30am. I had to leave for work at 7.30 and my scan was at 9.40 at the hospital where I work. The plan was for my Mum to drop DH off at the hospital for the scan (I had our car) bringing DS in the car with her. However DS finally went to sleep in his own bed at 9am so DH walked to the hospital but underestimated how long it would take and missed the first five minutes of the scan! I was almost in tears thinking he was goin to miss it and would be so upset, but the scan lady was a bit stern and scary and wouldn't wait.

Apparently when DH arrived at the scan clinic the receptionist wasn't sure which room I was in so DH had to knock and interrupt two other women's scans before he found me! Anyway everything looks great, got a blurry little photo. Baby looks like a little furry butterbean! They've moved my EDD back though so now due on the 6th instead of the 2nd so just 12 weeks today. Feeling able to start getting excited now. Can't wait to have a tiny baby again!


edinfirst Sat 22-Sep-12 08:19:46

Lol bunny I went to the March thread to try to find the two friends I found out were pregnant but pretty sure they're not there. Once you're here it's hard to imagine that anyone isn't!

Hope we all have a lovely, MS/tiredness/constipation/backache/shivering/ worry/[fill in symptom I've missed here]-free weekend

EssexWelsh Sat 22-Sep-12 08:50:31

Sending you good thoughts notshort, hope you have a better day today.

Missmuffet28 Sat 22-Sep-12 09:24:30

pontouf lovely news on your scan and glad hubby made it!!
Mine is desperate to come to my scan but he has to get the ok from work first it's not until the 11th oct but it is first thing in morning so I haven't got to wait around all day hehe

notshort hope you feel better soon it must be really crappy to have symptoms ontop of symptoms especially in that area I don't think I could cope with that but at least they have checked on your baba (and you got to see it again smile )

I don't know anyone else pregnant except my cousin but she's due in January so I know she isn't here, I'd be interested to see if anyone puts my local hospital up on the stats list tho !! I'm not on it yet just want to get scan out the way first!

SneezySnatcher Sat 22-Sep-12 10:08:30

Marking place so I can catch up!

Giddypants Sat 22-Sep-12 10:36:46

I have my scan this afternoon eeekkk!
Then the NHS one on Wednesday, which DH is unlikely to get to sad so will just go on my own, mum will has to look after DS and scans and things freak her out for some reason.

Hope you feel better soon notshort

Hi all marking my place on the new thread! I've been feing v sorry for myself this week as had norovirus on wed and I think I've recovered from that but it's sent my MS onto a whole new level and I can't do anything I feel so nauseous sad really hoping it'll pass soon as this is horrible. 12 week scan next week, really hope bean's ok and wasn't scared off by thr violent puking this week...

I don't think we'll be finding out the flavour - we didn't last time and it was amazing having the surprise when DD was born.

alwayshopeful13 Sat 22-Sep-12 12:42:22

Hello all, goodness this new thread is already superbusy! Took me a while to track it down and I wondered if we'd gone quiet - should have known better.

Welcome to new ladies and congrats on the all the exciting scans.

We've said we won't find out the gender - I love the idea that it's one of the few things nowadays that can remain a mystery, and I have such lovely memories from when I was a child of my mum going into hospital to have my two younger siblings and the anticipation and then excitement when it was announced what they were (both girls). DH agrees but he reckons in reality because (his words) I'm such a control freak I won't be able to resist finding out. Just makes me more determined to prove him wrong.

On names we have lots of ideas - more consensus on boys names (William, James, Thomas - all quite traditional) than on girls (I love Lauren and Imogen - DH less convinced).

On a separate note - has anyone been offered/advised to have flu jabs yet? When I was pg past time (then mc-ed) it was October when I found out and first thing GP did was stick the jab in my arm. But hasn't been mentioned this time, either by GP or mw at booking appointment last week. Maybe I should just ask....


Just a quick update to let you know I'm waiting to go to theatre to have my appendix removed. Thank you for all the lovely messages.

I'm quite worried about having the general though. Surgeon was very vague about the risks. He said there's "a few percent chance of a MC" but couldn't really tell me how much of a risk. Or just didn't want to angry sad So I'm panicking a bit at the moment.

Have my fingers crossed that gummy bear will be ok and no adverse effects.

aufaniae Sat 22-Sep-12 13:42:03

NotShortImfunSized Got fingers crosses for you today, hope all goes well smile

angeltattoo Sat 22-Sep-12 13:44:50

notshort very best of luck, they'll be extra careful i'm sure, will be thinking if you and wishing you a speedy recovery!

JaquelineHyde Sat 22-Sep-12 13:48:08

NotShort everything is crossed for you, I'm sure that everything will be fine and go smoothly.

Hello everyone, sorry I have been missing for a good few days but I've started back at Uni and the work load is just minumental 4 different modules a week, full days in the classroom so no study time factored in and different things need to be done each week for each module confused

Also our moving day has been put back by 2 weeks so I am sat in a packed up house and nowhere to go! Now moving the weekend of the 6th

Then spent all yesterday evening sat at the hospital until far too late with a friend who's child had had an accident.

Names we have short listed are; Jemima, Harriet, Matilda, Camilla and a few others. Boys - Oscar, Louie, Hugo, Rupert and Benjamin. All very taditional, but that's how I love them grin

10+1 (Hurrah into double figures)

JessieEssex Sat 22-Sep-12 14:18:45

Lots of people liking Imogen for girls - have to say I approve as that's DD's name!
Thinking of you notshort hope all goes well.

aufaniae Sat 22-Sep-12 14:40:43

Yay Jaqueline and alwayshopeful, a quarter of the way there already!

aufaniae Sat 22-Sep-12 14:41:11

(and everyone else at 10 weeks too!)

magictorch Sat 22-Sep-12 15:01:52

Fingers and toes and legs and arms and everything crossed for you notshort

always I'm having the flu jab on Monday. It's a drop in clinic so will take lots of reading materials as I expect there'll be a bit of a wait.

Off to view a house in a bit. Nesting instinct has kicked in early!!!

EssexWelsh Sat 22-Sep-12 15:38:35

notshort best of luck, they will look after you I'm sure! Will be thinking of you

Teapig Sat 22-Sep-12 16:56:47

I have everything crossed for you notshort. I'm sure it will be fine, hope you're home very soon.

Congratulations on your scan Pontouf, that's fantastic news.

LikeCandy Sat 22-Sep-12 16:59:21

Fingers crossed for you notshort - here's hoping you have a speedy recovery!

Giddypants Sat 22-Sep-12 18:03:25

Hope your ok notshort

Had our scan this afternoon, had to empty my bladder 3 times! Took her tome taking all the measurements, my NT is1.5 which she said was good, but waiting for blood results we have a very wiggly baby! They wouldn't stay still long enough! One minute on their back, next on tummy left then right! She said that this is also a good sign

Missmuffet28 Sat 22-Sep-12 18:08:30

Yay on your scan giddy smile

steph2412 Sat 22-Sep-12 19:58:45

Hope your ok notshort so much good news regarding scans cant wait until mine!counting down the days x

Roxoroxy Sat 22-Sep-12 20:14:50

My scan is next Friday and I really can't wait. I want to see with my own eyes that there actually is a baby in there and that it actually has a head, arms, legs and a heart beat.

Other than that, 'hello again' to everyone. I posted in the first thread but I've been out of the loop (and occasionally lurking) since. That's mainly because I've felt so exhausted I simply haven't had the energy even to log and and check my emails when I get home. This morning I woke up and decided that what I most wanted to do with the morning was sleep. Then I got up, had lunch, and decided that I wanted to sleep for the afternoon too...


Thinking of you notshort

Morning ladies!

Op went ok. Very, very sore now and can't really have much in way of pain relief. Being kept topped up with paracetamol!

They said the docs will be around to see me this morning and I should be able to go home but Im not so keen on that idea. It hurts a lot still and my little ones are going to want to jump all over me confused

I'm going to beg for another scan. I've been awake worrying all night whether baby is ok or not. I just want them to do a 2 second check for heartbeat on screen. Do you think that's totally paranoid and I shouldn't bother?? I just don't see how they can have given me all those drugs to knock me out without it affecting someone soooooo teeny!

Sorry for rambling. Thanks again for the thoughts and messages x

Missmuffet28 Sun 23-Sep-12 07:59:38

Really glad all went well you need to tell them exactly how you feel tho if you don't feel ready to go home then tell them! And yes beg beg for another scan I think I would although wouldn't it really hurt??

Well here is a hug and a hope you are right as rain in no time smile

Teapig Sun 23-Sep-12 08:15:51

So pleased the op went well notshort. I agree with missmuffet, if you're not ready to go home tell them. I would insist on a scan just for peace of mind.

LikeCandy Sun 23-Sep-12 08:44:14

Hi notshort - my Mum had an operation under GA when I was in utero (she didn't find out she was pregnant until after) and I'm fine (some might disagree..!) but if I were you I would definitely be trying to get a reassurance scan out of them before they send you home! Feel better soon!

Today I am 12+1, I was in such a bad mood yesterday - I know I should be feeling positive because the risk of m/c is greatly reduced after 12w but as I haven't had my scan yet there's still that worry of an mmc!
I definitely have a small bump, I'm taking that as some reassurance that things are progressing, but I have a feeling I will be a horrible person until Friday afternoon!

Also, who ordered this rain?!

wishfulthinking1 Sun 23-Sep-12 09:35:38

Morning all
- likecandy - I'm exactly the same. Am 12 weeks exactly today and want to get all excited about being in the 2nd trimester, but can't feel that it's 'real' until after scan on Thursday.

notshort - so glad the op went well. I agree with the others, if you're not going to get any rest at home, see if you can stay for another day.

I've given my DH my cold- so he's in a shit mood. Grumpy arse.

Another thing that's pissing me off (pregnancy book did say I could have a short temper right now!) is my friend who rang me on Friday. She asked me outright if I was pregnant, and I didn't lie. She was happy for me and commented that she was sure it'd be ok this time, as I didn't have the stress of the wedding and end of term etc. I think I calmly explained that a) planning the wedding wasn't stressful, b) the end of term wasn't really and c) THE MISCARRIAGE WAS NOT MY FAULT! The baby didn't die because I was 'stressed' it died because of some chromosomal abnormality that was completely out of my control. Just fucked me off- as if the miscarriage could have somehow been prevented- which is bollocks- right?

And...AND... It pissed me off that she asked. I wanted to tell her after the scan- it's my news to tell- not hers to guess at.

we're quite good friends really, so I should get over it, but it did just hack me off!

And, as if that wasn't bad enough- DH and I talked names yesterday, inspired by the thread- and he doesn't like my boy name!! WAIL!! I think we've agreed on a girls name- my choice first name and his late mothers name as a middle name. I've always wanted to name a son after my dad or brother- he says great names for middle names, but not as a first name. Clearly, I just need to get over it- but I've always imagined myself having a boy called Peter, and now I won't sad thanks to my grumpy miserable husband!!

Sorry for the long, ranty me, me, me post. I'm sure when I get Thursdays scan out of the way I'll be sweetness and light again!!

Just thought of something else that pissed me off! We were supposed to be going to a 3rd birthday party today- a friend of dh's son has birthday today- and I was really looking forward to it. They're still very much dh's friends- so I don't know them massively well, but my DH isn't sociable at the best of times, so it's nice to get out and about and do things like this together. But now he's got a cold we're not going. If I knew them better I'd go by myself, but I won't know enough people there to feel confident about it.

And of course, even though it's the same cold I had- his is infinitely worse. Even though I had to go to work and couldn't take any lemsip- and he just has to sit at home and have as much medicine as he wants!

Oh, roll on Thursday!!!.....

EssexWelsh Sun 23-Sep-12 09:52:46

12 weeks today, yea!! Just need this blinking scan on Thursday then I fully intend to enjoy it!

birdbrain17 Sun 23-Sep-12 12:00:44

notshort so glad everything went well, I wouldn't worry so much if the doctors aren't but if you can persuade them to give you another scan why not! I find tears are very persuasive wink

wishful I'm so sorry you sound like your having such a rubbish time of it I was also such a moody git till I'd had my scan poor DH didn't know how to cope we've only been married 8 months and he'd never seen me so bad tempered before! I think your friend was a bit insensitive all that stuff she said to you but people always say stuff without thinking don't let it annoy you! It's sunday go make yourself something nice to eat and sit on the sofa with a good book or some telly things will get better <big hug>

Yay finally reached 12+0, I thought I was there on weds but then I went for my scan and they changed my due date so happy to finally be there grin
Happy Sunday!

Pontouf Sun 23-Sep-12 12:30:29

Hi wishful, yeah people can say incredibly insensitive things when they're just trying to be supportive. I remember being so upset after my first mc - a mmc at ten weeks. A few weeks after I had the d&c my Mum told me that my cousin was pregnant with her first. She said it was only fair that she had a baby before me because she got married before me. My mother is usually incredibly kind, supportive and sensitive but I just blurted out "Well thank God I lost our baby then eh? I'd hate to step out of bloody turn!". Think she was quite shocked at my response but did apologise for being insensitive afterwards.

I'd suggest having a nice warm bath and chilling today. Enjoy the peace and quiet and let your DH fend for himself wink

EmpressMatilda Sun 23-Sep-12 12:58:11

Ah, here you all are [waves]

Sorry some are still feeling rubbish. I am a bit sicky but not too bad. Hang on in there, I think in a few weeks time we should be clear of all this and blooming hmm Can tell I've never been pregnant before can't you?!

Just been packing for my holiday to Crete. No idea what to pack. Summer stuff? Autumn stuff? Maternity stuff? Non-maternity stuff?

Boy/girl -we will find out. No preference as it's our first child and will probably have a second one. Haven't discussed names. I daren't have those conversations until after the 12 week scan.

Scan is Tuesday. Very nervous.

11 + 4

Roxoroxy Sun 23-Sep-12 13:02:30

likecandy, wishful and essexwelsh - sounds like we're all in the same boat. 12 weeks is up but I can't wait for the reassurance of my first scan at the end of next week. Roll on Thursday and Friday and, fingers crossed, being able to tell everyone the good news.

wishful I know exactly what you mean about not wanting people to ask you before you're ready to tell them. I haven't been in touch with a friend of mine since I got pg because I know she would very quickly ask and I don't want her to know before my brother and sister (who I will tell after the scan). Part of me feels bad for not having called, but I also don't want the intrusiveness of a question I'm not ready to answer yet.

toobreathless Sun 23-Sep-12 13:35:11

We are driving back from a wedding & DH is indulging me in my favourite conversation of baby names.

We have some rules:
- nothing 'cutesy'
- nothing in top 100
- probably not beginning in H.
- easy to say & spell

DD is Hazel.
Current ideas are:
Girls- Beatrix, Joy, Verity, Constance (Connie), Helena.
Boys- Clement, Hector, Gray, Emmett, Ernest.

wishful I love Peter.

Nice to see lots of people passing the 12 week mark smile
Looking forward to more good scan news this week coming.

12 + 2

EmpressMatilda Sun 23-Sep-12 16:21:25

toobreathless Helena is one of my favourite names. DH and I are banned from talking names until after the scan but when we do that will be my first suggestion. Also, I know someone who called her daughter Verity and I think it's lovely.

LoobyLou33 Sun 23-Sep-12 17:08:33

OOoh we can't resist talking about names, in an ongoing sort of way. We usually end up with more joke ones than realistic ones!

For a boy, we quite like Byron - like you breathless I prefer slightly unusual over popular. But my sister already gave us a warning talk about boys being teased for funny names. Would Byron be too weird/sissy? be gentle with me if you don't like!

Girl-wise I love pretty names and last time we had Savannah, Sienna and Jasmine on the list. I also like Aurora but it elicited strong reactions from friends - love it or hate it kinda name.

pink sorry you've had norovirus, grim...hope you're recovering now.
tooshort hope you recover well from the op, and that bubs is fine.

10 + 3

Dandelion75 Sun 23-Sep-12 17:20:55

Wow - you've all been busy! Ive been away on holiday for a week and got back last night. It's taken me most of the afternoon to catch up on everyone's news in between catching up on strictly - lovely to hear so many of us have now had 12 week scans smile

I got back from hols really hoping to have a scan appointment waiting in the post, but still nothing has arrived angry Will be 12 weeks gone tomorrow!! Going to get on the phone to the hospital straight away in the morning. I was so hoping to get my scan this coming week so I could feel confident to come clean with friends and colleagues as is getting almost impossible to conceal any longer (still suffering the post-IVF bloat which shows no sign of shifting hmm)

notshort - what a flipping nightmare, poor you. Glad to hear that the op went well, but agree you need to wangle as much rest as you can before going home.

empress - I just got back from Portugal last night, where it was really hot. Managed to get away with loose sundresses and flipflops most days as we weren't doing much, but my god send was a pair of maternity white linen trousers from H&M sale (only maternity garment I have bought so far) which meant I could still wear some of my nice tops that still fit for meals in the evenings. My other best buy was an mosquito repellent called Incognito (you can get it online or in Holland and Barratt) which is one of the very few insect repellents you seem to be able to use when pg. Everyone else in our group of 9 on holiday got bitten to death except me. It's worth being armed with this stuff as apparently mossies particularly love the taste of a pg lady!!

toobreathless - love all the names on your list, esp Verity. We haven't really thought too much about girls names as we have just been convinced since day one that it's a boy. Front runner boys name at the mo is Arthur.....

Looking forward to hearing lots more lovely scan stories this week smile

wishfulthinking1 Sun 23-Sep-12 18:36:18

dandelion- glad you had a fab holiday. I would defo ring the hospital first thing in the morning- try and get an appointment this week.

toobreathless - I know! Peter is such a wonderful, solid name. Don't think it's something my DH will compromise on. He's very happy to have it as a middle name, but doesn't like the idea of grandad and grandchild having the same first name, thinks it'll be confusing - though obviously it wouldn't. But, sigh, it's his child too.... Grumble, grumble, grumble...

To stop myself being such a grump I went to mum and dads for lunch leaving the invalid here. I bought him back some roast beef and he seems a little cheerier!

Only 4 days till scan!

Ooooh- new symptom alert! I read that veins might become more prominent and I just noticed in the shower that I have a really dark vein to the side of my right boob- it's really prominent! Wicked!!


wishfulthinking1 Sun 23-Sep-12 18:41:59

Awwwww... Whilst I've been out DH had downloaded a baby name app for the iPad. I really love him- and having Peter as a middle name is just fine... I'm sure we'll come up with something we both love for a first name xxx (am so grown up now I'm a married lady!!)

birdbrain17 Sun 23-Sep-12 20:36:14

Random question but has everyone who is 12 weeks stopped taking folic acid? I know it won't do harm to have extra just wondering if it's necessary or not....(I only started taking at 6 weeks when I found out)

kellestar Sun 23-Sep-12 20:45:49

toobreathless DD is Beatrice and DH has Hazel on his list. smile

Back to Nausea after Friday's pukefest. DD has a cold so I've been up at odd hours and ate something everytime. So felt better, but literally have to eat constantly. Dreading the scales. sad

Glad to hear so many good scans. And those of you scanning this week, fx.

Family have started guessing as I've been a bit of a recluse lately and not out and about. Most of my family have pets and/or smoke and the strong smells make me retch so I've avoided visits by saying I've got a bad cough that I don't want to pass on to them (did that last year and got flak) and now I have an actual cough I still feel mean using it as an excuse.

MiL did feel awful and called us the next day, I didn't want to speak to her so she apologised to me via DH and also to DH for adding extra stress to his busy schedule. Ah well, it'll suffic until next time. Rural somerset, everyone knows everyone's business. MiL was my dinner lady at school, they also live next door to my gp's.

Jo1984uk Sun 23-Sep-12 21:45:20

Bird brain I am still taking my santogen tablets, I might keep taking them until they are finished.. And until my diet improves a bit. If my child likes KFC I know why! Can't get enough of hang over food still, am still eating fruit though which is good, completely gone off veg apart from cauliflower cheese! Dandelion mite invest in some of that mosquito repellent tomorrow, we go to Mexico on Tuesday and I was panicking a bit about using 50% deet spray everyday. Can't wait to hopefully see my baby tomorrow, will make it so much more real. Am loving all the talk on names, we are really liking zachary for a boy and Sofia or Ashlee for a girl. I also really like the name Kaia, its hawaiian for ocean.

Rivergirly Sun 23-Sep-12 21:45:49

just marking my place. I have my first scan on Wednesday and can't wait - to be reassured everything is ok and finally to reveal to everyone that I am not putting on weight but happily pg!!!

I am only slightly suffering with all day nausea but mostly just soooooo tired - the tiredest, tired person ever. I have 2 ds and dont remember being so tired with them at all. I actually just spent the whole of Saturday afternoon lounging on the sofa and snoozing - i really dont know how I am going to handle full days at work this week!!

And Bird i was also wondering if you just stop Folic Acid at 12 weeks - I can't remember what I did before?!?

And yes I defo want to find out what I am having this time - DP has a daughter and is convinced we're having a boy but I already have 2ds and would prefer a girl - just a little bit of pink around the house to even things up would be nice!


bunnygirl80 Sun 23-Sep-12 22:45:57

birdbrain I kept taking my pg multivitamins the whole way through last time, and continued until DS was about 3 months old. The tablets didn't disagree with me at all, and as I tend towards having low iron levels normally I kept them up in the hope I wouldn't get anaemic. I lost about 700ml of blood giving birth, so was advised to take something with iron in for a few weeks afterwards too. I think I'll just do the same this time. Now I'm 12wks it wouldn't bother me if I missed a few doses here and there.

I hit 12weeks on Saturday, and it's like someone flicked a switch on the nausea. On Friday I felt awful, and was sick 3 times before lunch. Saturday rolled around and I've had only the tiniest wave of mild nausea when I let myself get really hungry. I even had a healthy lunch of tuna salad yesterday, which is the first time I haven't just wanted to eat carbs for weeks.

I've got the morning off work today, and I'm going shopping for some new clothes. My current clothes don't fit, but my old maternity stuff just falls down. I also have no longish tops to conceal the fact my jeans are held together with a hair bobble.

BonaDea Mon 24-Sep-12 08:57:01

Morning all! Great to hear all the lovely scan news, and keeping fx'd for everyone going this week.

We had the formal downs screening results in over the weekend and my risk factor is 1:3600 which feels very reassuring.

It now just seems like an age to wait until the 20 week scan!! Hoping to feel movement at least in the next few weeks, although everything I've read suggests that with a 1st baby, it might be as late as 16-18 weeks. Here's hoping that LO is very advanced for his / her age.

Loving all the names chat, too, ladies!

Mama1980 Mon 24-Sep-12 08:57:55

Morning how is everyone? I've had the weekend from hell (don't ask) but I am feeling better, stitch Wednesday and scan later so smile

miarosemum Mon 24-Sep-12 09:20:50

mama hope you and baby are ok? I have had the worst sleep the last two nights due to an intensely itchy right foot! also cramp in my right leg, feel like I am falling apart lol! have smothered my foot in lanacane powder but not really helping. any advice to get rid of the itch, other foot fine! pharmacist said it might be athletes foot but skin would look cracked and sore but mine does'nt.

miarosemum Mon 24-Sep-12 09:22:08

regarding baby names we like Archie for a boy, and Isabella/Ruby for a girl. its a hard task naming a baby with a name they will have for life!

Mama1980 Mon 24-Sep-12 09:24:24

Hi miarosemum we're ok thanks at least I hope so I always get very nervous before a scan as I'm still bleeding.
Wow itchy foot doesn't sound fun must be driving you mad. Have you tired calamine lotion?

Sorry you've had a rubbish weekend mama

Good luck with your scan later. Do you think they'll let you gone after the stitch this week, even if you're still bleeding? It must be driving you mad stuck there and all the worry too.

I'm still waiting for scan this morning. Was supposed to be at 8.15 but they had 2 emergencies in. Hopefully won't be much longer.

Oh she's just come to tell me it's now 11.15! I'm quite glad. Means I don't have to return to my madhouse quite yet ;)

My MW told me that new guidelines now say pregnant ladies should take their vitamin supplements the whole way through. New one on me, all the other times it was just until 12 weeks but these things are always changing.

miarosemum Mon 24-Sep-12 09:51:03

mama my itchy foot must seem pathetic compared to your situation at the moment wink. yes will stock up on calamine lotion me thinks today, felt like hacking my poor foot off at 4am this morning!! also going to book in with a chiropodist to get rid of all my hard skin that I have accumulated from years of standing on my feet in retail! am sure scan will be fine, is always reassuring to see a happy baby. how far are you now?

BonaDea Mon 24-Sep-12 10:00:57

The advice on folic acid is before conception and for the first 12 weeks.

However, the multivitamins which everyone takes these days are safe (and recommended) to take throughout. They contain folic acid anyway. I plan to keep taking mine...

somewherebecomingrain Mon 24-Sep-12 10:01:50

miarose i love archie, isabella and ruby - they are all on my list - which is meant to be a secret. Except archie cause a friend has an archie. but it would be if i didn't iyswim.


somewherebecomingrain Mon 24-Sep-12 10:02:20

ps i'm not going to use any of them but they are in my top ten

Giddypants Mon 24-Sep-12 10:21:06

Morning ladies, I'm having a miserable Monday, DH informed me yesterday that I looked like I was 5 months gone <thanks> worked a very busy 12 shift yesterday and I'm feeling it today, my back has given up and I'm waddling barely managing to get around and I'm a bit sore uterine area, maybe stretching pains?
To make things worse DS is full of cold, only wants to cuddle, and fart like a trooper!
I'm sorry for moaning, I wish I could shake this mood.


Mama1980 Mon 24-Sep-12 10:24:43

miarosemum I hope the clamine helps, itching is horrible. hope you feel better soon. im 12 1/2 weeks now my due date is the 1st s april but they are aimng to get me to 30 weeks pregnant and then consider delivering. like your names by the way smile my sons best friend is called Ruby.
notshortimfunsized good luck today. I hope they will but depends on scan and my blood results plus how the stitch goes.....you gotta laugh sometimes havent you?!
Thanks all I will update later fingers crossed all is well

Mama1980 Mon 24-Sep-12 10:26:46

giddypants sorry you are having a crap day. Sounds like stretching pains i think but ouch. I hope you can get some rest today and feel better soon, can you distract todler with dvd? x

NobbyD Mon 24-Sep-12 10:43:15

Hi ladies - I've been a bit AWOL of late. Mainly due to feeling so crappy and rubbish all the time and also just never being able to get onto the damn PC, laptop or Ipad at home due to DH hogging it all the time!!! Now at work with no boss looking over me so I'll check in and try to catch up with you all - its been so busy!

I'm now 13 weeks today yay! Had my scan last week and EDD now 2nd April, so no april fools for me. I highly imagine it will be born in March if my last preg is anything to go by. Was lovely to see little Dougal (it's what we've named him/her for the time being - we named DS Nobby when he was the bump hence the mumsnet name so we thought we'd go for a cutesy name again this time around, gives us something to say other than baby/bump etc). Everything looks all ok in there. Got to get my blood results soon by calling up the midwife. I'm not overly concerned about anything though.

Sickness is finally subsiding. Starting to feel normal again. I have even started going running again - used to run quite a bit before got the dreaded ms. Been 3 miles couple times this week so feeling good again smile.

Notice you all talking about names. We have a few on the radar. For a boy we are thinking about Finlay, we haven't really got any others! For a girl it's Holly, Isabel, Molly, Alana. We were trying to keep in an Irish theme as DH is of Irish decent but many of the irish names are just so hard to spell!!!

Will leave it there as I go try catch up on everyone elses posts.

Missmuffet28 Mon 24-Sep-12 10:45:01

morning all sorry to hear some are feeling poo or have had a crappy weekend, chin up smile
im getting fed up of those that know telling me i should be more excited!! i just cant get excited until scan is over with!! im desperate to tell ds but i just want to be sure its ok first that would be heart breaking having to tell him if it wasnt.

i was really cheeky this morning i rang and moved forward my scan appt a week lol so its now the 5th oct instead of the 11th i just couldnt wait that long!! especially as alot of you are having such lovely scan news to share, plus at my booking in appt i told the midwife i wasnt sure on dates it was either 03/07 or the 17/07 (last period) we agreed to put down the latter of the two dates but that would mean i would be approx 12 1/2 weeks on scan date but if my last period was the 3rd july id be more like 14 1/2 weeks which would put me out of the window for the nuchal dating scan so moving back 1 week puts me in window for both dates. does that make sense or am i being a total crazy person!

hope the rest of monday goes great for you all even if it is terribly miserable outside!

Giddypants Mon 24-Sep-12 10:50:03

Thanks mama he's watching Mickey Mouse at the minute and letting me MN rest grin hope your feeling better, any news about going home yet?

Mum is coming over shortly so she will take care of him and I can get my head down for a bit, really bad night sleep kept having weird dreams about detailed scans, then my work colleague turned into a cat confused

HaveALittleFaith Mon 24-Sep-12 11:32:08

Hi all, I lost you! Just catching up now working hard!

I'm 9+3 today, only 3 weeks 2 days til my scan! Still feel shattered but less sickly since I had treatment for the UTI which is a good thing! smile

Mama I really hope it's good news! How's your blood pressure holding now?

missmuffet that makes perfect sense - you have to assume its earlier so they can do an accurate nuchal scan.

I'll post more later when I've caught up.

photochick Mon 24-Sep-12 11:45:58

So good to hear so much lovely scan news! I have to wait another week and I think this is going to be the worst week so far - we just want to be reassured that there is something in there and its all healthy etc!

Still have nausea, extreme tiredness, big sore boobs and now back ache over the weekend. The back ache makes me concerned but feels like its flat accross my back and no other problems or cramping so guessing its just another pregnancy thing!

We have been discussing names but as we had settled on William for a boy about 5 years ago before children were even on the cards my DH now refuses to consider anything else. I would like a couple of spare names just in case I change my mind!

Thinking of you mama and notshort.


Just back from scan, saw a wriggly little baby grin All looks fine. Measuring 10+2 but by dates I'm 9+6 so DD may change at 12wk scan.

Can go home later this afternoon!

Mama1980 Mon 24-Sep-12 12:17:00

Notshortbutfunsized - great news grin so very happy for you x

Missmuffet28 Mon 24-Sep-12 12:39:08

Fantastic news notshort!!!! just make sure you put your feet up when you get home!!

Ollibobs Mon 24-Sep-12 13:02:48

Great to hear everyone's scan news! It must be such a relief to hit the 12-week milestone!
Although, it has occurred to me that I am a bit behind schedule or something as I'm 9+5 and still haven't seen the MW or heard about my scan dates. Is this normal?
This is our first baby, so I really have no idea what's supposed to happen and when.
I have had a scan at seven and eight weeks, then I was discharged from the IVF clinic and told to go to my GP. I saw him at 8+6, dropped off my hospital form and am now just waiting to hear from the MW or about the scan.
Was my when I saw the GP the 'booking-in appointment'? Should I be worried that I will be 10 weeks on Wednesday and haven't heard anything? Shouldn't I have had loads of other tests - bloods etc?
Or is it just me struggling to adjust after the constant monitoring of the IVF clinic?
Also, my GP told me that my dates could change once I have had my scan. How does that work when one has IVF? I know exactly when fertilization occurred, pretty much down to a 12-hour window. So, wouldn't my dates stay the same?
Sorry about so many questions!

Missmuffet28 Mon 24-Sep-12 13:25:42

Ollibobs In my town in Somerset they seem to like to see you between 8-10 weeks not before! I was told i didn't need to see my GP at all, at my booking in appt with midwife they did a load of bloods then they booked scan according to my dates, but that's totally different to my first dc so I really think it depends on your area.
I have no idea about ivf so I can't help you there but I wouldn't imagine your date would change much if what you describe is the case smile

I would give them a ring tho definately can't hurt to find out what's going on can it smile I was also shocked at the lack of interaction you have with anyone medical I don't remember it being like that at all the first time round!

HaveALittleFaith Mon 24-Sep-12 13:39:03

I think it depends on area oli but my GP practice arranged my booking in for me. I'm 9+2 and my scan date came through at the end of last week. I'd ring your GP practice and ask how it works in your area, you may have got missed for the booking. Actually my midwife sent the form off for my scan at my booking in thinking about it.

angeltattoo Mon 24-Sep-12 15:16:59

Miarosemum you might want to ring your midwife re: the itching, 'persistent itching', particularly in hands and feet, may be a sign of obstetric cholestais, i just thought that of it doesn't look like athlete's foot then this might be something to consider.

great news notshort, must be a relief for you.

ollibobs Re: booking in appt, here they see you at ten weeks, I had mine today at 11+6 EDD by LMP (actually I am 10 + 6) by USS date, but my paperwork didn't show this, so they are very busy/behind here! Just ring them, i kept ringing until they gave me a date grin

And if you know when you conceived, your dates probably won't change, really the LMP date is assuming you ovulate at an exact time in your cycle, but if you know when conception took place your dates should be accurate. Like I say, my dates are a week apart, so I obviously ovulated late...

I have had some improvememt in MS, but don't want to speak too soon, and had my booking in appt this morning. I have my maternity notes now, so it feels a bit more real!

Scan should have been this Wed, is now next Thurs due to DH's diary...roll on 4th October!

11 + 0 (ish!)

itsaruddygame Mon 24-Sep-12 15:17:46

Congrats on all the scans everyone - great news funsized after your traumatic few days and good luck for this week Mama1980!

I don't want to give false hope as I know everyone is not this lucky but I am starting to feel human again! Happened as I went over the 12 week mark. Nausea almost completely gone - just get the odd wave if I leave it too long between meals. I had thought I was doomed to 24 hour nausea so hang on in there those with MS there is hope!!!!! grin (12/5)

Mama1980 Mon 24-Sep-12 15:39:19

Thanks so much for the good wishes everyone pleased to say after another scan baby is looking great, got to see lots of wriggling and squirming smile

BonaDea Mon 24-Sep-12 17:29:29

Yay! Great news, Mama That LO of yours is certainly determined to hang on in there...

wishfulthinking1 Mon 24-Sep-12 17:40:11

Hi all
Miarose someone's mentioned it up thread, but my mw said she wanted me to ring if I had itchy hands or feet as it could mean something's up with my liver. Probably nothing, but no harm in checking.

I told my TA today, partly because she's friends with the colleague who asked me on Friday and, even though she promised not say anything, I wanted to be the one to tell her, just in case. Was lovely to tell someone!!

12+1 today!!!!

HaveALittleFaith Mon 24-Sep-12 17:41:08

Wonderful news Mama!

Ollibobs Mon 24-Sep-12 18:11:13

Thanks angeltattoo, HaveALittleFaith and Missmuffet28. Much appreciated. I will chase it up asap. Although, should I call the hospital where I am to have my scan? Or the GP? As I don't know who my MW will be, I guess it is one or the other?

BonaDea Mon 24-Sep-12 18:20:16

Call your GP in the first instance and he / she can refer you on if needed?

HaveALittleFaith Mon 24-Sep-12 18:22:55

I would call your GP practice and ask how it works in your area. It may be they should have booked you in with the MW and the MW sends the forms to the hospital so the hospital may not know! Or it may be they do it all at the hospital. But I think asking your GP practice is the best way to find out.

Bumpincharge Mon 24-Sep-12 18:28:45

Hi Ladies,
I haven't really posted much as I've been very nervous so far, but we had the 12 week scan today and I feel like a weight has been lifted. We have a little wriggly wriggler on our hands!
The hospital was great - turns out you don't want too much in your bladder when you for for a scan, our little one was all cramped in and bent over my bladder so I had to run to the loo during the scan. This should have helped, but the little one did a headstand instead so they couldn't really see much. We sat down for 10 mins to see if the baby would move to a better position, and while it did help a little, all the wriggling meant they couldn't do the nuchal measurement. I don't really mind though as it doesn't make any difference to us. We'll have the Quad test at 16 weeks instead.

Papa Bear has been grinning from ear to ear all afternoon - it's fantastic to see!

Good luck for all the other scans coming up!

steph2412 Mon 24-Sep-12 19:00:39

Hi all so much good scan news i just cant wait until 2nd oct for mine to see if everything is ok then can start to relax!i should be exactly 12weeks at scan and feel like i will be able to tell everybody once ive seen baby on screen. A few family have already guessed!x

LikeCandy Mon 24-Sep-12 19:18:10

Hello all, such good news with everyone's scans!
Hurry up Friday, I'm getting impatient for mine!

I'm still in a terrible mood, I think it's because I don't feel pregnant! No sickness or nausea any more. No sore boobs, they're certainly not any bigger! I thought a had a bit of a bump at the weekend, but I guess it must have been gas because it's not there today!
I'm sorry to be so down but DH thinks I'm being daft worrying, he's so excited for the scan and I am struggling to be anything other than nervous.


wishfulthinking1 Mon 24-Sep-12 19:30:12

likecandy - I'm exactly the same, still, there's not long to wait now!

bumpincharge - glad your scan went well, if a little wriggly!!

somewherebecomingrain Mon 24-Sep-12 19:45:10

itsaruddygame i'm hanging on your every word and its good to have hope! i don't think i'm the sickest person - i have actually probably vomited no more than about 10 times in the whole first trimester - but god it's just so disabling.

great news notshort and mama1980.

I'm trying to eat lots of ginger so eating lots of sushi and have started making teriyaki everything.

I do have moments when i feel great - mentally and physically - and it's simply the absence of nausea.


JessieEssex Mon 24-Sep-12 20:26:25

This is the first day I can say I haven't felt sick in about 8 weeks. Woo-hoo!

Congratulations to everyone having great scans and wishing the time away for those waiting for theirs!


toobreathless Mon 24-Sep-12 21:11:43

Yay for the good day everyone seems to be having smile

Thrilled to hear your scan went well Mama you seem to have a very determined little bean!

Good day too here although two home visits after 6pm meant I got home at 7.30 pm & am shattered.

Nuchal result came through at 1 in 100,000 risk! Didn't even think it went that low although not a great surprise given my NT of 1.2 & age of 28!

toobreathless Mon 24-Sep-12 21:12:37

Ooops 12 + 4,

Jo1984uk Mon 24-Sep-12 23:40:26

Had my scan today too :-) it was amazing, such a perfectly formed little baby. Mine was being a bit stubborn and lazy, had arms stretched above head and kept rolling to the side as nurse tried to measure nuchual fold. Had to jump up and down (after I had emptied bladder luckily) and she kept bouncing the scanner on my belly to try to wake him/ her and get baby to move. They say Aries babies are stubborn, seems like that may be true in my case! She managed it in the end, it came out between 1.5 and 2.. Finally seems real :-) congrats to all those who have had scans and good luck for those who have scans coming up. Exciting times!!

Giddypants Tue 25-Sep-12 09:24:32

Morning ladies, great News on the scans, I have my dating scan tomorrow I was measuring a bit big on my one last week and she would have put me 3 days further along, but I know when I ovulated as I get sharp pains for about 2 hours and we DTD 2 days before that so I'm not sure how I could be 3 days further along? confused

I'm going to start listening to my hypno birthing CDs anyone else going down this line? It kind of helped with DSs birth, tried to keep calm and take my mind away during all the chaos. This time I'm hoping for a much more relaxed delivery, with lots of drugs!

EmpressMatilda Tue 25-Sep-12 10:12:57

Fainted on the train this morning blush . Very embarrassing but I guess it means I am still a pregnant lady and all is progressing as it should! Fingers crossed my scan tonight will confirm this.

itsaruddygame Tue 25-Sep-12 10:31:19

Empress - fainting is no fun but good luck for the scan.

I had a letter through from my blood test yesterday telling me that I am not immune to Rubella despite having had the vaccination. A bit unsettling but trying not to worry to much as it is no longer a common illness. I will be avioding large gatherings of young children though and am trying to keep control of my worrisome thoughts!

The weird thing is I also had german measles as a child so I really don't know what my immune system is playing at!!!! confused

CrackleMauve Tue 25-Sep-12 10:36:05

Hello, good I join please. I am 12+5 and due 3 April. I have been holding off joining as I had some bleeding early on, but had my 12 week scan yesterday and there's definitely a baby in there.

This will be baby number two for me, I have an 18 month old as well.

Good luck to those with scans to come, and Empressmatilda be careful and look after yourself.

CrackleMauve Tue 25-Sep-12 10:36:27

Could I join even, sheesh.

edinfirst Tue 25-Sep-12 10:45:15

Congrats on all the positive scans. Mine is next Thursday, and I think I'm starting to stress about it a bit already. I am usually quite an active/stressy person, but since finding out I was pregnant I've actually been quite zen. As the scan approaches, however, I find that I'm reverting to my usually anxious and slightly irritable self (just as poor DH was really enjoying living with chilled out me!)

giddy I have been thinking about hypnobirthing - I am a bit of a control freak and so getting to a place where I really believe my body is more than capable of giving birth (which I understand to be one aspect of hypnobirthing) sounds like it would help a lot. I haven't looked into it too much (as with all things, putting it off until after my scan next week) but there seem to be a few different popular 'varieties' - which did you do?

Talking of putting things off, I was idly looking at local nurseries in a quiet moment, and came across an article saying that, where we live, it is recommended to start looking seriously while you're pregnant, and have your name down before the baby is born (it actually said at 6 months pregnant, but that was for places starting at 6 months and I'm hoping not to go back to work til 9 or 10). That has mad it all seem very real,and a bit scary!

Last one on my 'to think about after scan' list is NCT classes, which I believe also get booked up really quick. Do any of you second, third... timers have experience of NCT and would you recommend it?

I am really glad that I tried not to worry too much during the first few weeks, as it seems like there will be plenty of things to occupy my brain for the next 7 months!


edinfirst Tue 25-Sep-12 10:46:22

Welcome crackle - we cross posted so I didn't spot you just then. Congrats on your scan, it must be so exciting

CrackleMauve Tue 25-Sep-12 10:58:00

I would recommend NCT for making friends, my course wasn't that great but having people to go for lunch with and ask advice when the babies were small was invaluable. Would also recommend hypnobirthing. I had a natal hypnotherapy CD and the techniques definitely helped me. I want to do a proper hypnobirthing course this time to really get the skills down, especially as I am hoping for a homebirth this time round.

somewherebecomingrain Tue 25-Sep-12 11:10:55

got my combined result. A modest but fairly categorical 1:1300. I had hoped for better but aged 40 it's a good result.

natal hypnobirthing sounds good. I was a bit dismissive of all that, but then my body just wouldn't go into labour. I think making friends with labour is a good idea.


EmpressMatilda Tue 25-Sep-12 12:51:27

dandelion Thanks for the travel tips by the way. Going to have a look for some Incognito this lunch break!

toobreathless Tue 25-Sep-12 13:06:18

somewhere I would be very pleased with that risk at aged 40 (sorry that sounds awful YKWIM!)

crackle welcome! My DD is 17 months so a very similar age gap to you!

Can I be cheeky and ask if anyone is near me in Yorkshire? - I'm in York. We have just moved from Hampshire & I work fulltime & am a bit lonely. Can't believe I'm admitting that! Anyway I don't know anybody up here & if anybody fancied a coffee & baby chat let me know!

BonaDea Tue 25-Sep-12 13:15:38

great scan news everyone - congratulations and keep the good news coming!!

MrsJohnDeere Tue 25-Sep-12 13:21:01

Congrats to all those with good scan news. Mine is still 3.5 weeks away which feels like an eternity!

Had my flu jab today. Got a little freaked out by the nurse who told me that she thought her 2nd child was tricky until she had the 3rd who turned out to be harder than the other two put together! I was banking on #3 being my 'easy' one.

Went delving in the attic yesterday to dig out maternity clothes but it it seems I must have got rid of them all. What a pain!

Teapig Tue 25-Sep-12 17:29:07

Hey ladies, I'm in a bit of quandary. Had my booking in appointment with the MW today which was great, she was very nice and had another MW there helping with all the form filling.

I mentioned I'm away for my 12th week and it came up that I'm flying long-haul. Both MWs were very unsure about that. Short-haul or long-haul after 12 weeks they weren't concerned with but said that long-haul before 12 weeks has a higher rate of mc. I don't want to do anything that puts me at risk or gives me cause to feel the mc was down to something I did, after an mc last pg I am totally paranoid about another one.

They said it depends on how high the plane goes which obviously I won't know and I can just imagine how stressed I'd be the whole time. The trouble is my trip, which is for work, is next week and I have the flights and tons of meetings booked. I don't think the risk is such that they can give me a medical reason not to fly, and I don't want to let work know I'm pg before the 12 week scan, but I feel massively uncomfortable with going. At the same time it doesn't feel like a solid 'I officially can't fly' kind of thing, just a risk but would never forgive myself if something happened.

DH says don't go but I'm not sure what to do. I thought the MWs were going to say it would be fine to fly long-haul and just advise on flight socks or something.

Sorry for the me, me, me post but any advice is very welcome. Going to catch up on everyone's news now.

HaveALittleFaith Tue 25-Sep-12 17:32:19

Can you postpone it teapig? Just for the week? Is it a holiday?

MrsJohnDeere mine is 17th so we can be late to the party scan buddies if you like?

alwayshopeful13 Tue 25-Sep-12 17:33:59

Congrats on all the positive scans and welcome to newbies. Somewhere - fab news about your result. Giddy and edin - I'm also v keen on exploring the whole hypnobirthing thing. I like the sound of its ethos, plus I'm perhaps madly as it will be DC1 considering having a home birth. Midwife got all excited last week when I mooted it. Obv they must have targets or something.

Must confess misery still reigns in always land. The looming cold has now definitely landed so on top of feeling exhausted and relentlessly nauseous, I now feel like my head's about to explode, and I can't sleep properly thanks to being all congested. NICE!! Rubbish not being able to take much - GP even advised against Vicks vaporub and olbas oil, my usual staples for getting through this sort of thing. Earlier musings about getting the flu jab are slightly academic now as GP says I can't have it anyway at the mo as I'm a bit feverish. Grrr.

Sorry for moi moi moi post. I'm a big ball of wallowing self-pity. Trying to drag myself out of it...hopefully some chicken soup will help :-)

Only a week and a bit to 12-week scan. Can't arrive fast enough.

Happy Tuesday all you lovely ladies.


Evening all, have had my booking in today,but have to wait until 16th October for scan. Mw confirmed I am high risk due to the cancer, chemo & surgery and seemed almost amazed that I have managed to conceive so quickly.
Woe was asking about NCT classes, I did them with my first and am still friends with the group and we have all just waved our dc's off to school. I supported two classes once I had him and its like being a mum to talk to and ask advice when you feel a bit silly asking the hv. I am also treasurer for our local branch so you can give and get a lot out.
Am still sick with a vengeance, but ds hasn't been late for school yet, despite me having to leg it up the stairs several times as we are leaving.

somewherebecomingrain Tue 25-Sep-12 17:41:33

thanks guys. touch wood this pregnancy is now on. deep breath!

johndeere i think your nurse is talking more about personality which is a total roll of the dice. there's nothing intrinsically more difficult about number 3. i was number 3 and i was considered the easy one!


alwayshopeful13 Tue 25-Sep-12 17:49:26

teapig of course you should do what you feel most comfortable with and obv how easily you can change your plans (postponing/cancelling) depends partly on the lay of the land with work and how supportive and understanding you reckon they'll be. But all I'd say is allow yourself the possibility in your head that actually if you don't go, and if you have to tell work about pg earlier than you planned, it might not be the end of the world: plans change, people adapt, and generally in my experience (obv haven't had this particular situation but have had something every week - sickness, sudden disappearance due to bleeding/need for urgent scan, cold this week - which has hampered my usual diligence at work), people really are supportive and just deal with it. It's only work! Yeah work is important on a practical level but no doubt your reputation for general amazingness are sufficiently well established that one change of plan (even if it seems significant now) for a VERY good reason isn't going to change all that!

Even a bit of disruption/reorganisation on the work side might be justified if you weigh it up against the strong chance that you'll be fretting constantly if you do go (whatever about any small risk mc-wise of the flight itself.....worry and anxiety not good for the LO).

Sorry for longer-than-necessary words of advice ramblings. Just my thoughts....do feel free to ignore!

CrackleMauve Tue 25-Sep-12 17:58:58

teapig I read a very interesting thread in pregnancy a while ago about flying when pregnant, started by a poster who is a pilot. I've just done a search for it, might have some good advice on it? She makes the point that pilots are allowed to fly pregnant up to 26 weeks.


CrackleMauve Tue 25-Sep-12 18:02:50

But obviously you can only do what you feel comfortable with, it's your body after all.

MrsSimkins Tue 25-Sep-12 18:07:45

teapig I flew to the dominican republic at 6 weeks and home at 8 weeks (9 hours each way) and my gp, midwives and travel advice nurse were all fine about me flying. I wore flight socks and kept moving as much as possible and as far as i'm aware all is still fine (scan tomorrow!) x

Teapig Tue 25-Sep-12 18:25:36

Thanks very much for all the advice, so great to be able to talk on here.

Faith, it's for work and unfortunately the dates can't change as it's timed with a big meeting. I think if it was a holiday I'd cancel more to stop me fretting and have my scan earlier. As it's work I feel difficult about pulling out, though completely agree with always that plans change and work can adapt. Part of me just wants to bow straight out of it to avoid the worry alone. I wouldn't mind coming out to my manager before 12 weeks but there are so many people I'm meant to be meeting I don't know what I'd say to them, I wouldn't want the whole company knowing before 12 weeks.

Thanks for the link crackle, that's a really good thread. Thanks for the reassurance mrs simkins, that makes me feel more assured. My flights will be about 11 hours and I'm trying to figure out whether I'd do anything but worry for those 22 hours. Will mull it over a bit more, thanks for the advice ladies it really helps!

JaquelineHyde Tue 25-Sep-12 18:49:13

Hello ladies just a quick question but when do you think I should tell Uni I'm pg?

I've been umming and ahhing for the past week about it. I'm only 10 weeks now and I'm not telling any family until after the 12 week scan which is next Thursday.

Initially I was planning on waiting a few weeks so I was all settled and had found my place within the group however, there is a lot of assessed group work to be done that involves people relying on me to do things and be places etc etc so I'm wondering if I should come clean now so that things aren't arranged/expected of me that then have to be changed etc. I'm not sure if this will ever happen but I am dreading it happening just once and letting my team down.

Also more practically for now I had to sit for 2 and a half hours today in a seminar feeling like shite. I thought I was going to throw up constantly, the smell of coffee was so strong and I was uncomfortable and in pain. I just wanted to lean back, rub my tummy and comment about how sick I was feeling and I bloody couldn't.

Sorry for the rant/ramble I just not sure what to do!

Caladria Tue 25-Sep-12 19:11:55


I've just come back from the USA (flew at 10/11 weeks) and being neurotic looked into the risks. I couldn't find anything that said there was an increased risk of miscarriage - just that it would be a bugger to have it happen on a plane and that things like morning sickness might be a problem.

LoobyLou33 Tue 25-Sep-12 19:32:40

teapig that's a tough one...I think work would understand especially given the concern has come from your midwives, but perhaps you can get a second opinion. I would put your gut feeling first and not worry about the work aspect (easier said than done I know.) Could you attend the meeting on skype/webcam?

NCT was good for meeting people, although I didn't make life-long mum buddies, but we do meet up from time to time. Bump to Babe type antenatal classes are usually free but I'm not sure people are so committed to those, so you may not end up with a circle of friends from it. But the info is pretty similar, just nct is more pro breast-feeding and natural birthing. Personally I found labour a shock as I bought too heavily into the idea that "we don't use the word Pain, just intense". hmm

I want to check I'm not being too pushy - I had a nurse pregnancy appointment at 8 weeks, and she said the MW would contact me after 10 weeks for the full booking appt. I'm now 10+5 and not heard a thing. I have the MW's number from last time and have been ringing it but no one's picked up (turns out she was on leave til today). So I left a voicemail this evening asking about my booking appointment.

Does that sound like I'm being too fretful or is it reasonable at this stage to expect at least a date for a booking appt if not even the appointment itself?!

Teapig Tue 25-Sep-12 19:42:31

Thanks caladria and looby. I checked the nhs website and they say there is a higher risk of mc in the first trimester with long-haul but if you're prgenancy is looking healthy there's no reason not to go. I've done loads of googling and find some sites that say it's totally safe and some that say it can be high risk. Ho hum, wish it was more clear cut.

Looby I don't think you're being unreasonable. I think booking in appointments usually happen between 8-10 weeks so no harm in following up to get yours fixed up.

steph2412 Tue 25-Sep-12 20:47:18

Hi everyone well i felt really good today walked to town and back and cleaned the whole house thought the ms had cleared up.got to tea time and it was back now i feel awful really tired sick bloated and headache!on a better note 11 weeks today and 1 week until scan fells like forever but trying to keep busy. With regards to flying ive never done long haul but did do 4hour flight with 1st pg and everything was fine i didnt really no any of the risks but felt really well anyway,so suppose it depends how your feeling in your pg.

Doingakatereddy Tue 25-Sep-12 20:59:14

Teapig - You don't mention if youve told anyone at work. Just thinking that it may be a good idea to advise managers before you go so that company travel insurance is checked that you are covered, that they know where your maternity notes are in case of emergency & help you to rest as far as possible. Telling them will necessitate a risk assessment to be completed, but this is often a good thing.

Lastly, if your not going premium economy / first you may wish to request it on health grounds grin

Sorry to be gloomy but travelled loads with work

HaveALittleFaith Tue 25-Sep-12 21:00:36

jacqueline it's a tricky one, if you think that the pregnancy is going to affect your ability to study/work or your attendance if mug be worth telling them. You can be careful about who you tell.

looby I think it's fair enough to ask!

steph get yourself an early night!

I feel rough tonight. After awful constipation I've swung the other way confused I'm not quite sure why. I also found when I <ahem> we t it hurt my kidneys! I'm wondering if I've got anther UTI. I'll have to go to the doctors I think. I've had a bath and washed my hair and I'm snuggled up in bed now.


Caladria Tue 25-Sep-12 21:16:54

Hmmm. The nhs page here doesn't say anything about a higher risk of miscarriage from flying: http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/927.aspx?CategoryID=54&SubCategoryID=133

Same here: http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/travel-pregnant.aspx

Teapig Tue 25-Sep-12 21:35:30

Actually I haven't told anyone at work doing, good point about the travel insurance. I really wanted the 12-week scan first but I might have to let my boss know.

Thanks or the links caladria, I think I completely misread the NHS stuff before. Just focused on the bit that says the risk of miscarriage is higher in the first 3 months and missed the bit before about it being regardless of travel.

I think part of my worry is the possibility of mc while I'm abroad on my own. My trip is during week 11/12, which is when I mc'ed in last pg. I know that doesn't mean a risk this time but it doesn't fill me with confidence at being away at that time. Still the NHS advice makes me feel better, I'm worrying about nout.

aufaniae Tue 25-Sep-12 22:26:50

JaquelineHyde how about going to see Student Services first? They're great at my uni, and they are a confidential service (I assume at yours too?)

They should be able to advise you if telling them makes any difference, and they should also know what your rights are (something your tutors may not, especially in regards to placement).

bunnygirl80 Wed 26-Sep-12 02:57:47

teapig I was going to point you in the direction of the thread on flying, but I see somebody's already done it. I think your mw is a bit misinformed, as cabin pressure stays the same whatever altitude you're flying at. I would think the main issue would be, like you said, if you do have a problem and you're all alone overseas. If I were you I would inform work, and see what they would like to do. You definitely need to make sure you're covered by insurance just in case, as the last thing you'd want is to have a huge medical bill to pay.

Sorry to hear lots of us are still feeling so rubbish. Hopefully we'll all turn the corner soon

Had my nuchal scan and bloods today. Baby was extremely uncooperative, and after the sonographer spent ages explaining how she'd take a few nuchal fold measurements, and use the average, it took 40 mins of extremely painful prodding with the probe to get even one. I was on the verge of asking her to stop, and we would just go with what the bloods showed, when she finally managed it. Meant we got to have a good look at the baby wriggling around anyway grin Risk came back as 1:7381, so really good. Got a CD with all the ultrasound images on it, so I'm now the proud owner of pictures of my ovaries and cervix as well as the cute ones of the baby. Not entirely sure what to do with the ones of my insides, maybe I'll frame them and put them on display for visitors!!!

I also elected to another couple of vials of blood taken to participate in some research. They're essentially trying to see if it's possible to isolate enough fetal DNA from a maternal blood sample to be able to give a yes/no answer to whether there's a chromosomal abnormality, without needing to use amnio or CVS.

wishfulthinking1 Wed 26-Sep-12 03:43:32

Insomnia back with a vengeance!

Teapig- much like everyone else has said. My mw said it was fine to go on our honeymoon to Thailand- just check travel insurance and wear flight socks.

As its now 'morning' my scan is officially tomorrow! Roll on!

Any bloat bump I had has disappeared- what do everyone else's tummies look like? I want my bloat bump back!!

EmpressMatilda Wed 26-Sep-12 07:35:01

teapig I am flying to Crete and back in the next couple of weeks. All advice I've taken says it's fine to fly in pregnancy and so are the airport scanners I might have to go through. Not 100% convinced about the second one but not a lot I can do about it!

So... I had my scan last night. For the most part it went really, really well. Baby has a head, arms, legs, and a heartbeat and it was lovely to see it! Also I go my date changed to 5th April so I am actually well past the 12 week marker without realising it! Glad to have made 5 days' progress without trying!

The bad thing is that they couldn't get the NT measurement. Baby was lying on its back and not keen to move despite my rolling onto my side, jiggling about etc. We are joking that we have a very zen baby, chilling with it arms folded! They also couldn't see much because of 'your very gassy tummy' blush though I do have IBS so presumably this is a factor!

Anyway, I have to have the blood test thing at my 16 week appointment instead but I think that's too long to wait. So we are going to have a look today into finding a private clinic that will do another scan and the NT and bloods and give results straight away. I think we're willing to pay for peace of mind at this stage.

JessieEssex Wed 26-Sep-12 11:49:36

Just had my downs risk through and it's 1:1717 which is higher than it was for DD but obviously I'm older this time (35)! I'm v pleased and can relax just a little bit more.
Also, I'm sure I've felt a bit of movement over the last few days. Just tiny twitches but always low in my pelvis. Anyone else?

aufaniae Wed 26-Sep-12 12:41:03

Great to hear about everyone's positive scans and results.

EmpressMatilda in your shoes I would go private - we're pretty skint atm but I would still do it for the peace of mind, and if your risk did turn out to be high it's better to know sooner rather than later.

I'm a bit worried about the combined test.
Our risk last time was 1 in 18. It was a very scary week.

Cadmum Wed 26-Sep-12 13:13:43

Hello everyone. I am in shock! Scan today went beautifully. One tiny,active baby measuring right for dates and everything. Thanks for the hand holding!

The consultant was lovely today; he was thorough; compassionate and patient. My uterus is so tipped back that I needed an internal scan. (At 12 +4!!!) No previa either so even if I do have a mmc, I can avoid the c section with high risk of hysterectomy.

Sorry for me me me ramble. I am posting on my phone.

I forget who mentioned travel to Thailand but I am living in Bangkok and cannot say enough about the healthcare. Sadly, we have used it too frequently including an emergency d&c last January for a miscarriage at 12 weeks...

BonaDea Wed 26-Sep-12 14:57:17

Congratulations cadmum that is fantastic news!

Sorry I haven't caught up on everyone else's posts yet, but hope all scans are going well.

13 + 0

Teapig Wed 26-Sep-12 15:03:57

Hi ladies,

I've decided to go ahead with my work trip but to ask work to move it a little later than planned. I'm hoping to move it to the second trimester which puts it past my miscarriage milestone and past the 12 weeks scan so all being well I should be more relaxed by then. The majority of advice seems to be that it's absolutely fine but I've read about radiation levels carrying a small risk in my first trimester and just don't feel comfortable. I can't imagine how traumatic it would be if I was away alone and something did go wrong. All in all I think I'd feel better in the second trimester as the flight is pretty long haul.

I've got to speak to my manager's manager about it tomorrow (scary!) as manager is away. Just hope he'll understand, this isn't the way I wanted to let work know that I'm pg.

Congrats on your scans cadmum and empress matilda. Empress, I think I would go for a private scan just for peace of mind. Plus you'll get to see your little baby again smile

My scan is booked in for 10th October which feels like forever away. Good to have it booked in though, keeping everything crossed.


steph2412 Wed 26-Sep-12 15:14:56

Teapig i know how you feel my scan in on 2nd oct so a little before you and the waiting is driving me mad!i feel like ive been keeping the secret for ages as i found out at four weeks now 11+1.just cant wait to get things out in the open fx everything ok this time!

somewherebecomingrain Wed 26-Sep-12 15:29:11

cadmum will say it again - wonderful news xxxxx so happy for you

somewherebecomingrain Wed 26-Sep-12 15:31:23

aufaniae good luck - you've been up against it. there's no answer but it is totally random and there is no reason to think you will have the same experience again. How did it turn out last time?

aufaniae Wed 26-Sep-12 15:32:53

Teapig that sounds very sensible. I hope you're able to look forward to the trip now (assuming it'll be at least a little fun between the work?)

steph2412 we've got scans on the same day, and I'm also 11+1!

Cadmum lovely news smile

somewherebecomingrain Wed 26-Sep-12 15:34:42

ps jessieessex re movt yes! i'm 11+6 and i can feel this rushing and popping exactly where the baby should be. i'm trying not to get too carried away tho.

anyone else?

aufaniae Wed 26-Sep-12 15:38:05

somewherebecomingrain last time we had a CVS and got the all clear as a result of that. I've moved my scan appointment to 12 weeks - it was 13+something to give us a better chance of having a CVS if needs be, which has a lower risk of miscarriage than amnio.

The nuchal was fine, it was the bloods that were dodgy.

They ended up finding that I had a notch on the blood flow in my womb (treated with low-dose asprin). Previously I had thought that it was the notch which caused the dodgy blood results, which I found reassuring, but the midwife I spoke to recently seemed to think I've got that bit muddled, so I don't know now.

somewherebecomingrain Wed 26-Sep-12 15:52:56

i find some conversations with the nhs, esp about sensitive stuff like combined test, very unclear. it's hard to get to the bottom of htese things. i don't think it's necessarily isn't true about the notch.

best of luck aufaniae i'm so pleased it turned out well last time and i'm sure it will again this time but totally understand you will be v anxious until you know xxxxxx

steph2412 Wed 26-Sep-12 16:03:17

Brilliant aufaniae someone anxiously waiting for the same day as me!ive sorted the kids play room out in an effort to try and keep busy!dh off work from friday so should be a bit easier after tomorro!just want to know everything is ok un there!

Teapig Wed 26-Sep-12 16:07:43

Has anyone checked out a baby name generator site? I came across this one http://www.babynames.co.uk/Baby_name_generator.htma nd it's given me endless amusement. Yes, I do have too much time on my hands today.

You put in your surname and it suggests names to go with, plus middle names if you'd like them. For boys I got Luca Maximillian and Scott Clay. For girls Elyssa Efa and Tahlia Larna. I think Darwin Evelyn is my favourite, what a combination!

somewherebecomingrain Wed 26-Sep-12 16:51:39

got a really nice one - Karol for a boy! i lurrrve it and i have eastern european roots. but my v english DP will not go for it i know
thanks teapig!

SneezySnatcher Wed 26-Sep-12 16:57:07

Jessie yes! I think I'm feeling something - just tiny prods, very infrequently. I felt DD at 16 weeks and it's common to feel subsequent babies earlier. I'm 12+ 4 and I'd read that it's possible to feel movements in the thirteenth week so I'm hoping I'm not mad!

BonaDea Wed 26-Sep-12 18:26:24

MW told me yesterday that for first babies you often don't feel it until 20-22 weeks, but SURELY, I'm not going to have to wait that long to feel the wriggler?

Any first timers feeling anything?


JessieEssex Wed 26-Sep-12 18:32:13

I think that with DD I felt movement at about 17-18 weeks (can't remember exactly) so this is much earlier, but I'm certainly not as 'taut' in the stomach area as I was then (understatement of the year there...)!

kellestar Wed 26-Sep-12 19:42:36

Hello! Nausea is a little more under control, still the odd puking session here and there, but it's a bit more under control. I've now moved to bottled water, even though the tap water is normally fine it seems to be disagreeing with me atm.

When expecting DD I felt movements at 16 weeks, she used to kick at the edge of my desk which pressed into my abdomen. She was vicious little kicker, even the MW commented at my check up that even she felt movement.

teapig I remember how nerve wracking it is telling your boss. I felt forced to tell mine as she wasn't going to let me have the time off for my scan as it was the deadline for us to make decisions on uni applications. As the hospital where the scan is taking place is a 10 minute drive away, I was back within the hour. Seeing as she was about 7 months gone at the time, I thought she'd be a bit more understanding. I think she was pissed that someone else in the office was expecting. The next day 2 other colleagues came out their scans were after work] and a month after that the last 2 colleagues came out about their pregnancies too. Big fat thunder stealers all of us. smile

Hope it all goes well. My cousin is a steward for BA and she flew through until she was 20 weeks [she was too wide to negotiate the aisles safely, I think she could have gone to 26 weeks though]

LOVING all the scan news. 9th October for mine.

I was at Tesco lunchtime and the council were offering car seat checks. They'd completed over 80 checks this morning and ours was the first one installed correctly. Slightly smug, but also worried about these others with poor fitting seats or not suitable for age group. We went with extended rear facing as DD is 8.1kg at 21 months.

MrsSimkins Wed 26-Sep-12 19:52:07

Had my scan!!!! It was AMAZING! wriggling and waving everywhere. The most amazing day of my life! Dates pushed back a week tho so i'm now due 8th April which makes me 12+2! I'll update on the stats page.
Hope everyones had a great day, I am literally on top of the world after spending the last few weeks convinced there was nothing in there as I have had no symptoms whatsoever! Hope that helps any of you worrying like me! x

Giddypants Wed 26-Sep-12 19:56:29

Evening ladies, had my dating scan this morning they measured a NT of 2.0 on Saturday it was 1.5 don't understand why it has got bigger, in a few days, I suppose it's still under 3.0 I get my blood results tomorrow.
I've also been put forward 4 days however that would be an immaculate conception, as I know when I ovulated and DTD! Ah well, so now I'm technically a march lady EDD now 30/03/2013.

The hypnobirthing CDs I've been using are these www.natalhypnotherapy.co.uk/pregnancyrelaxation.html

EmpressMatilda Wed 26-Sep-12 20:14:39

Glad to hear people's happy scans are continuing smile

Thanks for the advice regarding private scan. They all seem to cost about £200 which is a lot as far as I'm concerned. Found a clinic near where I work that can fit me in on Friday afternoon. Poised to book but when I phoned DH about it he said it's too much money so not to go ahead. He's the one obsessing about having a high Downs risk so I don't really understand. I am waiting for him to get back tonight so we can discuss it. I think I have pretty much made up my mind to go for it anyway. I could always pay for it from my own money rather than joint account but as it's our baby and OUR worry that seems unfair... gosh, this is all sounding bitter and petty. I will stop and have some (decaffeinated) tea and try to chill out!

trying2bpos Wed 26-Sep-12 20:47:42

Wow ladies I've been away for a few days and had about 6 pages to catch up on.
Appendix ops- phew notshort glad you're OK and hope the kids aren't bouncing on you too much.

Congrats mama wonderful that yothe stitur LO is doing so well and hopefully after the stitch they'll let you home.

Great scans everyone and some fantastic downs risk results you must be relieved somewhere

I had my scan and antenatal appt. yesterday, went well baby kicking about and heart beating nicely, NT measurement OK (1.2) is too low bad too?

But they've dated me further along than I thought so 13+1 today so waiting with baited breath for the bloods. Trying not to over think it but if we did have to go for further tests I think I'm going to be quite far along IYKWIM!

trying2bpos Wed 26-Sep-12 20:49:39

Sorry mama laptop doing some weird things.

Might check out the name generator that someone suggested before my dirty habit Dallas starts at 8! I'd forgotten how great JR is, truly evil, but fantastic!

CamelKnees Wed 26-Sep-12 20:50:18

Hi all. Just marking my place on the new thread. Glad to see scans are going well

EssexWelsh Wed 26-Sep-12 20:52:00

My last message didn't post I think/hope. Just said it's the night before my scan, so very nervous, cannot wait to get it done, but also anxious in case we find out that I'm just getting fat rather then got a little baby in there!

trying2bpos Wed 26-Sep-12 20:55:09

Henley Fletcher for a boy
Ivy Queenie for a girl
I particularly like Fletcher, anyone remember porridge?

trying2bpos Wed 26-Sep-12 20:56:10

FX crossed for you essex only a sleep away!

kellestar Wed 26-Sep-12 21:02:45

teapig Colby Denzel was the boys name suggested for us and the girls name is Merryn Wren.

aufaniae Wed 26-Sep-12 21:25:23

I tried the Baby name generator

I got

Declan Archibald
Lennon Orlando

Tallulah Yumiko
Pixie Leticia


Ollibobs Wed 26-Sep-12 22:23:04

I tried the generator... Won't be using that to name our first born...wink Hilarious!

Ulric Amari
Elvis Aston

Bunny Amber-Rose
Ruby-Lou Lynn

steph2412 Wed 26-Sep-12 22:28:00

Some interesting names there!im all snuggled up in bed feeling freezing got a cold and the feeling of ms has just struck again!oh well not long until my scan now so glad its a morning app just want to get it out of the way and see a healthy baby!hope everyone is well

wishfulthinking1 Thu 27-Sep-12 05:21:24

Right everyone! More insomnia but scan day is finally here! There are a few of us today so fx for us all, will check in later. I don't think I've ever felt so apprehensive- i keep weeping- not just crying- a full blown weep!!!



MrsJohnDeere Thu 27-Sep-12 06:09:24

Good luck to all those having scans today.

I tried the baby name generator thing. It came up with ds2's middle name and Sunnie for a girl!

steph2412 Thu 27-Sep-12 07:00:54

Good luck with alk the scans today fx for you all xx

EssexWelsh Thu 27-Sep-12 07:26:43

wishful yea scan buddies and I'm 12+4! Fx, I could hardly sleep too, get a lie in today as morning off and can't sleep-too excited!

toobreathless Thu 27-Sep-12 07:34:38

Good luck wishful & essex !!

edinfirst Thu 27-Sep-12 08:10:53

Good luck ladies! And to my scan buddies (tried to track down your names but just so many messages-IIRC username and at least two others) just a week to go now!

aufaniae Thu 27-Sep-12 08:23:40

Ooh, I dunno Olliebobs Bunny Amber-Rose has a certain ring to it! wink grin

Good luck for your scans everyone smile


alwayshopeful13 Thu 27-Sep-12 08:24:15

Good luck to everyone having scans today-sending v best wishes for you all. Must be so exciting the day has actually arrived. Still a week ish to wait for me and the waiting is RRrrrrubbish!

Will check in later.


Mama1980 Thu 27-Sep-12 08:34:54

Morning all good luck everyone with your scans today. Very happy to log on and hear all the good news smile

Teapig Thu 27-Sep-12 09:08:33

Congratulations on your scans Giddy and Mrs Simkins. Mrs S, your experience makes me feel a tad more relaxed. I've been so paranoid not to have had any symptoms it's great to hear that you had the same and everything is tickety boo.

Olliebobs you should totally use Bunny Amber-Rose if you have girl. If DH and I can't agree on names further down the line I'll threaten him with the baby name generator.

Just told work my reasons for wanting to postpone my trip. Had to tell my manager's boss as she's away but he was lovely, really understanding. Big relief. Now just counting down until scan day on the 10th October.


birdbrain17 Thu 27-Sep-12 09:17:46

teapig just seen your post after being offline for a couple of days so happy for you there's been so much response. I don't really know much about the flying aspect but about telling work I also didn't want to say anything till after the 12 week scan but then when I was 10 weeks there was a case of slap cheek in school so I had to tell my line manager so I could take time off to get tested for immunity. I was really upset at first to have said anything before the scan but it was fine she was really encouraging and it was very reassuring to know that if I really was having a bad day (which I was having quite a lot of) there was someone I could go moan to...
good luck, hope it all works out okay smile

birdbrain17 Thu 27-Sep-12 09:32:01

btw thanks for whoever posted the baby name generator it's giving me lots of entertainment. How funny one of the names it gave me for a boy is DH's middle name and one was my brother in laws name, guess my pil are good at name picking...

BonaDea Thu 27-Sep-12 09:58:46

Good luck for today everyone!!

Feel like the excitement of last week's scan is now wearing off slightly and I am now back on count down mode to 8th November, when I have my 20 week (and the following day when I have my fetal cardiac scan, which I need because of being high risk).

I am also desperately paying attention for signs of movement, but know it is probably way too soon for a 1st baby. Ah well, will keep trying!


itsaruddygame Thu 27-Sep-12 10:46:28

Good luck to all having scans - Wishful I am sure you will be fine!

Anybody bought maternity trousers yet? I carry my weight around the middle anyway and what with a bit of early weight gain and bloating my trousers no longer do up! After buying some bigger normal trousers and them not really looking great (they are baggy everywear else) I have bought a pair from JoJo Maman but they are not quite as smart as I would like for work. Anyone who has been preggo before got any recommendations for smart work wear?

itsaruddygame Thu 27-Sep-12 10:47:27

Forgot to say 13 today. Time is flying!

Giddypants Thu 27-Sep-12 10:59:28

Morning ladies, I just got a phone call from the place where I had the nuchal scan and quad test on Saturday, I've odds of 1:50,000 so really quite happy with that, however I have tested positive for height risk of pre eclampsia, as I had a notch on both uterine arteries, (whatever that means) so they have booked me in for a growth scan in December where they can check my arteries again to see if it has got better or worse.

I will have a chat with the consultant when I eventually get to see him.
Good luck to everyone who has scans today. Can't wait to hear everyone's experiences x

Giddypants Thu 27-Sep-12 10:59:57

Oops forgot 13+5

AuntyDiluvian Thu 27-Sep-12 11:03:09

Whee, got my scan appointment letter yesterday - 17th October, the same day we go on holiday with a bunch of friends. It will be so nice to be able to be up-front with them all and hopefully to share the good news. Of course if it doesn't go well we might not be going, but in that case I suppose it would be a crap week whatever happened...
Very excited by all your scan reports, keep 'em coming please ladies!

EssexWelsh Thu 27-Sep-12 12:04:49

Woo hoo, I'm really pregnant!! And they confirmed me as 7th April, 4 days further along than first thought and only 2 days after my 30th, will be one I won't forget!


steph2412 Thu 27-Sep-12 12:06:44

Any news on scans yet?im 11+2 was sure i felt some movement last night but thought i was imagening it but think ive felt it a couple of times this morning!this is baby number 3 but 4th pg not sure if its possible this early x

steph2412 Thu 27-Sep-12 12:07:52

Brilliant news essexwelsh congrats x

trying2bpos Thu 27-Sep-12 12:09:09

Congrats giddy those are great odds you must be delighted. I am waiting very anxiously at the moment for mine!

Good luck for 17th AuntyD and to all our ladies being scanned today.

itsa I've got some smart work trousers (underbump with expandable sides and stretchy panels) from Debenhams (RedHerring range) and Next. I'm not tall though so have to take them up a bit (the iron on hemming stuff think it's called wonderweb is great stuff). Hope that helps.

Had headache over one eye and one side of head since had antenatal appt (don't think the 3h waiting around helped). Anyone else suffering with headaches and have any advice?

trying2bpos Thu 27-Sep-12 12:11:34

crossed posted essex so congrats that's great news.

BonaDea Thu 27-Sep-12 12:48:28

Congrats Essex!

trying - I've had quite a few headaches which according to the book is quite normal. I've just rested (when not at work), drunk water and for the ones which were really bad taken two paracetemol which are fine after 12 weeks.

itsagame - oh yes, i have some mat trousers already! Some of my work things I have been able to make do with bump bands and hair ties, but jeans I simply couldn't fit in / get comfy! I'm fortunate in that we have a 'smart casual' policy at work, so I can get away with jeans if worn with heels and a shirt. A friend told me that Next is really quite good for work stuff which is affordable but smart - I'm never completely convinced about the quality generally in next, but as it would only be for the next 5 months or so until mat leave starts, I think it is worth a shot...


kellestar Thu 27-Sep-12 13:47:05

itsagame I put on my Maternity yoga pants for the first time this morning. I found Next are good but I fit in an 18 maternity and normally a 22, I am short in the leg so do end up taking up most trousers. I have a pair of underbump jeans as well but they are quite low at the front and back so need to wear Mat tops as the length covers your dignity. I lived in Bloomin Marvellous leggings overbump before the company closed and were bought out by Mothercare. I paid £1 a pair. Supportive and not see through, I am generous of hip and thigh and would normally never be seen in them. I think you can get them in MC now.

Had a good few days but now can't stop puking again. AN clinic tomorrow for monthly check up of thyroid. They want to check for ketones too. Worried a little that they may want to keep me in.

MrsJohnDeere Thu 27-Sep-12 14:12:16

Congrats Essex , glad it went well.

Not impressed with my hospital, and wondering whether to change back to the hospital I had my other Dcs in. confused. They've sent me a booking in appointment today, for 3pm one day next week. I phoned to change it - cant do that time because of school pick up - and they can't give me another one until 2 weeks later (when I'll be 12 weeks). As a result, they say they can't book me in for the 12 week scan until I've been for the booking-in appointment, and realistically I shouldn't expect it before 16 weeks! How on earth am I supposed to wait that long to know everything is ok? That's another 7 weeks!

EmpressMatilda Thu 27-Sep-12 14:12:20

DH and I have decided to have the private scan/tests. I am booked in for tomorrow afternoon. Not looking forward to blood tests and the tummy prodding (I thought it actually hurt quite a lot for my other scan which was a surprise). Am looking forward to seeing baby again though smile.

Regarding mat clothes. I just bought a load off ebay. An entire winter wardrobe for about £80. Includes black trousers for work and quite a few pairs of jeans. Don't need them yet but getting some definite firmness in my tummy now.

Congrats to all those having positive scans. It's a great feeling isn't it?!

EmpressMatilda Thu 27-Sep-12 14:16:46

Oh yes. 12+6.

somewherebecomingrain Thu 27-Sep-12 14:35:48

feeling happy - got my private combined test today, overll result same as NHS but i could see why. Apparently the scan side of things is as good as can be, literally perfect - but the bloods were close to the line. But they stressed the combined result is the one to believe in, and it's good for an old bird like me. also got really great result for other trisomys, far better than during my first PG, which i wasn't expecting at all so feel it was money well spent in reduced anxiety.

also saw my baby for 20 minutes as the scan is so thorough - it looks so like a person, it looks like my DP!


trying2bpos Thu 27-Sep-12 14:50:06

what company did you use for the private scan somewhere and how long did it take for your results to come back from the bloods? Seems like the NHS results were back pretty quick too? Good to know they're very similar. I was very impressed at your low low risk and it gives me hope.

I'm trying not to read too much until I know what my results are.

somewherebecomingrain Thu 27-Sep-12 14:54:43

hi tryingtobepos i used the fetal medical centre. it costs £180. the whole thing takes about an hour and a half.

i ended up calling the midwife to complain about the length of time for the nhs result (i was told 2 weeks which would mean too late for CVS if i'd needed it) and she gave me the number of the lab and the genetic counsellor there.

i am thinking of you - it's the worst time in the PG, the first trimester just before the 12 week scan - when are you expecting to get your results?


ps 12 weeks today

somewherebecomingrain Thu 27-Sep-12 14:55:02

an hour and a half and you get your results there and then

trying2bpos Thu 27-Sep-12 15:24:06

That is brilliant somewhere the private place closest to me is 189 quid and it takes two days from when the lab gets the bloods! The MW at the hospital said they try to get the results to you in 2-3 days if you're high risk, they call or put a note through if they can't get hold of you. Since I had my test done on Tues if I don't hear by tomorrow do you think I'm in the clear?

I know, I thought now I'm 13 w and haven't had any problems I'd be ecstatic but this is a mini cloud hanging over the whole thing! Esp as friends have just posted on fb that they're expecting in April too and since they live in US bet they've had all their test results through. Argh, so hard being in limbo but have to look on bright side and remain hopeful! Got to be in it to win it right!

Thanks for your thoughts they mean a lot.

Giddypants Thu 27-Sep-12 16:18:47

Thanks * trying*, really pleased with the results, but not about the high pre eclampsia risk, I've been looking in to it and the research is if you have a high calcium diet it reduces your risk by 50% so may go down that route.

Have you got your results back yet trying is there anyone you can ring?
I'm really liking oranges, I can't get enough of them, even orange juice!
Oh well vitamin C keep the scurvy at bay!

SneezySnatcher Thu 27-Sep-12 16:25:15

I have these maternity trousers for work classic.next.co.uk/g483176s3#781030g48
They are very comfy and as they have waist-adjusters they are fine for now (tightest setting) but will grow as I do. I got my regilar size 10 and they fit fine on legs etc. My normal clothes are actually ok but maternity ones are soooo comfy!!!

itsaruddygame Thu 27-Sep-12 16:55:24

Thanks everyone for the recommendations - think I will be doing some shopping this weekend grin

SneezySnatcher Thu 27-Sep-12 17:15:46

regular !!!

Bambino29 Thu 27-Sep-12 18:03:34

Hi everyone,

Room for one more?!

I'm due with my first on April 23rd. Been a bit of a whirlwind as conceived on my wedding night in July, having convinced myself it would take months! Had a few wobbles along the way, including a small subchorionic bleed which had me convinced I was miscarrying. All fine however and now massively excited about my scan on Oct 11th! Reading all of your comments about your scans is making me even more excited (as well as rather daunted!).

Congratulations to everyone who's had a positive scan.


Ollibobs Thu 27-Sep-12 19:28:07

Welcome Bambino29!
Well, I'm now 10+1 and still no news on booking in appointment or scan. Have called everyone all over hell and creation and still nothing. Left message on the answer phone at the community midwife's and despite the message saying they will call me back in less than 24 hours, they haven't.
At this rate I am going to march in there and chain myself to the ultrasound machine until someone scans me!

Ollibobs Thu 27-Sep-12 19:29:00

Bambino29 what a wedding present that was! grin

wishfulthinking1 Thu 27-Sep-12 20:43:20

Hi all- great news on the scans all round!
Mine was fab- baby is perfect- I am finally letting myself believe it! It was all wriggly with little arms and legs- isn't it amazing? We told my folks tonight- and they are so thrilled!

bambino our baby was conceived two weeks before on our wedding night in July too!!

Sonographer put me at 12+4- which is exactly what I thought- she said that almost never happens clearly she didn't know about the phone apps I was using and the shag-on-demand plan with dh!!

I'm just so so happy! Looking forward now to plenty of baby talk that I can join in with without any negative thoughts! Brilliant!!

beebopper Thu 27-Sep-12 21:12:41

Hello all,
May I join too? grin I am due on April 29th. So I'm 9 weeks and 4 days. I've been so nauseous for the last three weeks and am just praying it gets better. I had an early pregnancy scan and I swear baby was waving at us! My husband is convinced its a girl! Hahaha. I'm really worried about my food intake- I can literally only stomach dry toast and yoghurt. I end up throwing up everything else! sad
Any advice anyone? Or just some reassurance? So happy I found this thread! smile

Mama1980 Thu 27-Sep-12 21:41:52

So happy for everyone with all the great scan news smile
and beebopper welcome and congrats! If its any help I haven't eaten more than a few mouthfuls of anything in weeks and babe is looking great. Drs assure me a woman's body compensates.
I have my stitch put in tomorrow they had to postpone as my bp dipped again. Will feel a lot better once its in. Also saw the physio who decided I need a more extensive nerve function test as my right leg is completely useless at the moment. It seems a never ending round of dr s and test right now.... I do look pregnant which is lovely though, there's a definite bump.

angeltattoo Thu 27-Sep-12 22:00:39

Great scan news everyone, and welcome newcomers!

I swear i felt the baby move a few times earlier today; obviously could have been muscular, but I know I felt it eactly where baby is (from earlier scans). First baby, does that sound crazy?

Still MS here, bluergh, just want my scan now so I know my EDD for sure, still a week to wait! And then I can tell people, seems like it's been ages now....

And i have a definite bump, am surprised as I am tubby, but I am sure it's definitely a bump and bloating anyone else?

11+ 3 ish...(12+3 from LMP)

bunnygirl80 Thu 27-Sep-12 22:26:35

Yay for more good scan news!

Ive been out and bought some maternity jeans and some work trousers. My normal clothes still fit, but they're very tight. Tried a size 12 in normal clothes and that's still way too big, so I've gone down the maternity clothes route. The weathers warming up nicely here too, so I've also got a few non-maternity wrap dresses which should last me a while.

I've been feeling definite baby movements for the last few days. At first I was unsure if it was wind, but now there's definite flutters happening.

somewherebecomingrain Fri 28-Sep-12 08:11:56

I'm off shopping for may clothes today. As someone with narrow
Hips I pop out by 12 weeks. Even more so second time round. V excited. Have lost my old stash of mat clothes cause in storage and not visible
And dp would rather I buy new than dig about in there which would take all day.

Feeling pleased to have made it to this stage. But still sick.

Bunny girl you sound enviably slim! I am now at a stage where I can really spare energy for weight issue so you'll all be hearing more from me. I put on 4 stone last time but only ever lost 2 - this time I'd like to put on no more that 1.5 stone but am already half way there so not too hopeful.

bunnygirl esp if not your first but even if it is I'm sure you are feeling movement. I feel same way. What else could it be - its where the baby is and you don't feel anything like it when not

I find pg onerous but I do like the movements.

trying I'm thinking of you remember the odds are overwhelmingly on your favour. There's a lovely thread exclusively for us older mums you should visit I'll post like late when not on my phone xxxx

bunnygirl80 Fri 28-Sep-12 08:40:52

somewhere I gained 27kg when I was pg with DS (no idea what that it is stone). I was just incredibly lucky that for me breast feeding a very very greedy baby meant I lost it all and more by the time he was 3 months old. Just hopeful that the same thing happens this time.

I was feeling DS at 14 weeks, even with an anterior placenta, so I'm not surprised I'm feeling this one already. Especially the way it was wriggling around when I had my scan on Weds

Caladria Fri 28-Sep-12 10:26:36

Scan! 12.5 and everything looks fine. Nuchal fold 1.4 and wriggly baby. I still don't believe I'm pregnant. Have been very lucky and had almost no symptoms apart from a bit of tiredness, so all seems unreal. Good luck to all of you still due a scan.

Teapig Fri 28-Sep-12 11:38:52

Congrats Caladria and everyone with great scan news! So good to hear. I've been symptom-free apart from a bit of tiredness so gives me encouragement that hopefully everything will be ok.

Welcome and congrats to the newbies.

I'm trying to hold out on buying maternity clothes until my scan but my skinny jeans are quite uncomfortable now, very tempted to invest in some comfy jeans.

itsaruddygame Fri 28-Sep-12 11:48:51

Congrats on all the scans ladies! Wishful - glad all OK and that you can relax a bit now!

A few people have mentioned being older ..... I am 38 (will be 39 by next April) and this is my first. If its not rude to ask (feel free to ignore me!) how old are we all and is it 1st 2nd etc? smile

Giddypants Fri 28-Sep-12 13:02:11

itsa I'm 31 this is my second and probably last I had DS when I was 27 and relatively fit and healthy, things still went tits up with him, and now he had a life long disability, I suppose sometimes you can take all the precautions eat healthy and life still throws you a curve ball.

Wow, huge congrats on all the FAB scan news, makes it all the more real when you've seen an actual person in there wiggling about! grin

Welcome to all the new additions to April and congratulations to you all!

Is it just me or have the last few weeks flown by? One minute I was POAS the next I'm 10+6 shock

I'm feeling so much better now. Can finally move about without being in agony. Still quite sore but on the whole not too bad. On the downside this blooming all day sickness and dizziness is back with a vengeance, grrrrrr. Not even actually being sick just the constant nausea.

I had my booking 2 weeks ago, was supposed to have my booking bloods done last Friday but what with being whipped off to hospital I didn't quite get around to it. So went this morning, I'm starting to resemble a pin cushion!

She also rang hospital about my 12wk scan as I've not heard anything. All the other scans I have had have put me 3 days ahead of LMP date, so she hurried them up and my scan is on Mon 8th. Not long to go. I was quite shocked! A bit nervous but all other scans have looked fine so am hopeful all is well.

Itsa I'm 31 and this is number 6 shock I know, I know. Was a shock to me too! I was well and truly over the whole having babies thing. All mine are finally out of nappies and pretty much all sleeping through apart from odd night time scares etc so I can't say I'm exactly looking forward to the baby stage again. As lovely as they are.

Mam Good luck with the stitch today, hope all goes well for you. It's great that you've had positive scans everytime, with a very happy and robust little one in there! smile

edinfirst Fri 28-Sep-12 14:04:16

Maybe we could add ages to our stats thread? It already has whether DC1, 2 etc, and I think some of us have put up which hospital we are booked into - I find it pretty handy to be able to check whose roughly same stage as me, and age etc would be good too. Just an idea

CrackleMauve Fri 28-Sep-12 14:24:41

Excellent news about all the scans.

On weight, so far I am 10lbs lighter than when I got pregnant, I get sickness quite badly. As I am also overweight losing some to start with is not really a bad thing. I can spare it.

Last time I think I ended up about half a stone over my starting weight, but I lost to start with and then gained towards the end. It didn't seem to do my daughter any harm, so I'm not worrying too much this time.

HaveALittleFaith Fri 28-Sep-12 14:46:04

Hello all, congratulations on the positive scan news smile

I'm 31 and expecting DC1. I wanted our first DC by the time I was 30 but life doesn't always work out like that!

I've weight too crackle, not as much as you! But about 4lb. It's weird because in some ways I'm eating more crap <stuffs more galaxy in to mouth> but I find I'm full quicker. Sometimes the sickness just puts me off. I have a smaller breakfast too because it means it's less likely to um, return!

I've found the last couple of weeks have gone quicker but I'm still waiting to get to that scan date! But today is a milestone smile


birdbrain17 Fri 28-Sep-12 14:53:12

Lovely to hear all the great scan news.
I thought I was starting to feel better know but then threw up loads yesterday (first time I actually threw up before that it was just feeling nauseous) and today I'm still feeling awful, and to make it worse I know it might sound funny that I didn't learn to drive as a teenager but just never got round to it so wanted to pass and get it out the way and I failed!!!! I'm in a really grumpy mood now not even because I did anything dangerous..but because I was driving too carefully have you ever heard anything so stupid, I thought they would want more careful drivers around!! Sorry need to let off steam on here or poor DH will get it all instead. I just want to go to bed and cry sad (sympathy please)

essex we have the same due date, so happy your scan was good after your sleepless worrying!

p.s Welcome to the newbies on the thread

birdbrain17 Fri 28-Sep-12 14:53:39

oops forgot 12+5

Teapig Fri 28-Sep-12 15:12:29

I'm 32 and this will hopefully be DC1. Faith, like you I wanted to have DC1 at 30 especially as DH is a bit older than me but realised you can't plan these things.

I daren't go near the scales. I have definitely gained weight and am going to have to stop stuffing my face.

Damn that stupid driving examiner birdbrain, how can you possibly fail for being careful? Hope you can take another test soon, sure you will pass before long. I still haven't learnt, really must get round to it one day.

EmpressMatilda Fri 28-Sep-12 16:04:52

I am 33, will be 34 by April. This is first pregnancy. Like some of the others on here I wanted kids before I was 30 but I hadn't met the right potential dad! DH is 38, not sure what impact that has on baby health.

I am currently waiting in a rather nice private clinic for my scan. Never been non-NHS before. Is a whole other world!

Hoping baby will be more lively this time and they'll be able to get full NT results.

LikeCandy Fri 28-Sep-12 16:32:14

Hello Ladies,
I had my scan today, baby has the right number of arms and legs and a big old head! I was so relieved to see that all was well that I had a good cry!
Nuchal measurement 1.2mm, 14 day wait for DS screening blood test results.
I have an anterior placenta (googled it, apparently it's likely to move between now and 20w anyway!)
I'm apparently 13+2 which gives me an EDD of 3rd April!

Hope everyone else receiving news today is as pleased smile

itsaruddygame Fri 28-Sep-12 16:55:40

LikeCandy - we are the same (13.2) so due on same day!

Thanks for sharing re: the ages. I defo feel like an old fogey now. I had always said I wanted children before 35 but it has not quite worked out like that!

Giddy sorry to hear that your son has had some difficulties - I hope that he is OK and feeling good at the moment.

Funsized - at least we all know who to ask advice from! You must be an expert by now. A couple of girls at work have 4 each and seem to have it down pat now so I am happy to have a few people to ask who know what they are doing as I certainly wont!! grin

itsa I think in all my pregs and babies that I've covered most things! I just wish they'd stop changing rules ie tests/weaning etc. Although at the end of the day a baby is a baby and comes with no rules and it's own ideas grin

Quite an adventure whether it's number 1 or number 6!

Babies I'm good at, 11 year olds on the other hand.....If anyone would like to do a swap after the birth feel free to let me know wink

Giddypants Fri 28-Sep-12 17:51:01

Thanks itsa he's a typical 4 year old in every respect except he has physical difficulties he's well in himself and gets himself understood one way or the other, he is loved to pieces by his family and very charming to people he meets when he was a baby he would flutter his eyes at the ladies grin
Sometimes you just have to play the hand you've been delt.

birdbrain I feel your pain when I was 18 I was failed for going too slow when it was snowing! I later found out that they have to fail so many people a month to meet targets, I'm still bitter about it now considering I got 100% in my theory test (was dead easy then) and I drove my mum everywhere to get experience and I had to pay the £38 out of my wages! angry

MrsJohnDeere Fri 28-Sep-12 17:58:16

Itsaruddygame - you're not an old fogey! I'll probably be 41 by the time this one is born (my birthday is around the same time as my EDD)...

Mama1980 Fri 28-Sep-12 18:10:52

So happy to hear more good scan news smile
Stitch put in today but still can't go home as bleeding very heavily again. Also managed to actually throw up in a nurse today as I couldn't move to sit up blush apologised profusely!
I'm 31 I have dd 14 and ds 4 but my dd is my goddaughter who I have had custody of for years by sgo so this is only my second pregnancy-and it's a pretty safe bet that it will also be my last!

Mama1980 Fri 28-Sep-12 18:11:32

On a nurse obviously have also lost the ability to type apparently! grin

steph2412 Fri 28-Sep-12 18:17:29

Oh mama your not having much luck hope you are able to go home soon!so glad everyone is having good scans hope i am posting good news after mine on tues!just wish it would hurry up so i could relax a little and start to try and enjoy preg!

EmpressMatilda Fri 28-Sep-12 19:40:19

Scan all done and dusted. Nuchal was 1.3mm. Combined with bloods that came out as a combined risk of 1:5219. Baby was more lively today and seemed to be waving at me saying "hi mum, I'm here, it's all cool, stop worrying!"

I practically danced the whole way home. If anyone else ever finds themselves in my situation I totally recommend just paying the money and getting it done. I'll wince when I see the bank statement but boy do I feel happy right now!

What also made me very happy (and this will show my vanity now) was that they weighed me and it seems that despite giving up the gym and switching from veggie soups and salads to pasties and sausage rolls I am exactly the same weight as I was 3 months ago! grin

I appreciate there are other people on this thread with more things to concern them than how much weight they have put on! With that in mind I am so chuffed that despite various setbacks and problems we all have healthy babies on the way! I enjoy reading through the posts every day as the numbers of people getting through their scans, out of morning sickness and into the second trimester increases!

EmpressMatilda Fri 28-Sep-12 19:50:20

kellestar I just updated the stats thread with my new EDD and realised we might be giving birth at the same hospital. I haven't decided between RUH and my local birthing centre yet but it may end up being RUH (may end up being out of my hands...). I am due almost same day as you too!

HaveALittleFaith Fri 28-Sep-12 20:21:55

Oh dear Mama! I had a patient vomit on me once confused fortunately ? it was just my hand...I'm sure she understands! At least the stitch is in now and your one step closer to home!

kellestar Fri 28-Sep-12 20:28:46

empressmatilda we do have close dates. I live within a snowballs throw of Paulton Birthing Centre and it's lovely, but had a lovely birth at RUH led by MW's (high BMI) the aftercare was awful though. Have chosen to go there again, in case I want the pain relief. Had an epidural with DD.

Glad your scan went well and you got the results.

I had a good AN clinic visit, normal birth as Thyroid levels are fine. Tis only my high BMI that classes me as high risk now. And they managed to hit the vein in my arm first time! Woohoo. Still have a bruise on the back of my hand from booking in 3 weeks ago.

trying2bpos Fri 28-Sep-12 21:27:26

Evening ladies. Glad to hear everyones doing OK and some more great scans and blood results. Still not heard about mine yet so hoping no news is good news. I might call the MW on Monday and see if I can get the results from someone as I strongly believe my headache is a tension headache caused by stress, my shoulder are practically up by my ears at the moment!

Thanks somewhere I really appreciate your support and I did come across the older ladies thread the other day so will bob back on there when I get a minute.

itsa I'm 41 will more than likely be 42 when DC2 born. 3 mcs put paid to babies before 40!

Glad the stitch went OK mama and hope you can go home soon I bet the kids are missing you like crazy.

aufaniae Fri 28-Sep-12 22:07:21

Mama I'm sorry you're still in the hospital, I hope you and bump manage to escape soon. I wouldn't normally talk about other threads here, but this is funny, hope it might make you smile smile

M&S website error

EssexWelsh Sat 29-Sep-12 05:34:54

* aufaniae* brilliant on m&s keeping an eye out for any reviews!

Can't sleep, went to a gig last night in Angel, was exhausted by end, my rock and roll days are really over wink

birdbrain hello baby buddy! Totally sucks about driving test, but all the cool kids fail first time, just phone and get a cancellation straight away, that's what did when I didn't pass first time grin

So told my closer colleagues at work which was very exciting, loving the reactions, but had an overwhelming response of shock and far to many replies of 'is DP happy?' like even if he wasn't I'd say?! And also 'ah are you hoping he'll ask you to marry you now'! Has really annoyed me, as it came from sooooo many people I started to question myself! Yes DP is very happy, the pregnancy was planned and maybe we'll marry in the future but we decided we wanted children, not wait 2 years to plan an expensive party first!!! Plus 2 colleagues, 1 I like, 1 is a vile interfering busybody who actually shouldn't be allowed near children, just ask me outright if I was pg, just by the size of me sad really am ballooning in size, only 5'3" and normally size 12 and already 8lbs heavier-arghhhhhhh!

Rant over, back to sleep me thinks-thanks ladies grin

LikeCandy Sat 29-Sep-12 06:54:29

So my DH has told everyone in the world, I wanted to keep it quiet but no such luck! I'm half expecting to see a billboard in the city centre or a double page spread in the broadsheets..! It's so wonderful that he's excited - I can't be too upset!!
Essex most people's first reaction has been disbelief for us, it's hard not to be offended by that. (Really? Are you sure? Is this planned?) How rude!

Oh and my notes now say 'low BMI' - I was 52kg y'day which puts me 2 kg up on the midwifes 50kg at 9weeks. If its something they're concerned about why don't they just say 'try and eat more?'

Enjoy the weekend all smile

SneezySnatcher Sat 29-Sep-12 07:18:35

Hi all. Just a quick one. Managed to find the baby's heartbeat on a Doppler yesterday (just a cheap one that DSis gave to me). It was very reassuring as I feel in limbo between 12 week scan and 16 week appointment!

BTW - I've just turned 29. Was 26 when I had DD.

Roxoroxy Sat 29-Sep-12 08:39:13

Scan yesterday morning. All well. Hugh sigh of relief to see a real baby in there with four limbs and a heartbeat. I think I'll settle down and stop worrying for a bit now. I found myself singing as I walked down the street afterwards.

Off on holiday today with family and will announce the news to my bro and sis with the photos. Just hoping I can save it til we get there rather than break the news in the airport!

Congrats to everyone else who's had good scans.

12+6 (the scan said two days more but I prefer my numbers!)

Dandelion75 Sat 29-Sep-12 09:31:35

Hi ladies. Not managed to get on here this week - all I have managed is to get myself to work and back then come home and crash out. Hoping the uber-tiredness might be on its way out now as we head for 13 weeks.

Lovely to hear so many great scan stories smile I had to phone on Monday (12weeks) as still had no appointment. One person I spoke to was really stroppy ("why would you expect an appointment already? Don't you realise we do them up to 14+1?) In the end found someone helpful who booked me in for Tues (13+1) thankfully.

Can't. Flipping. Wait.grin

Is there anyone else who has opted not to have the nuchal test? Seems like nealy everyone is having them which has surprised me. We wouldnt 'take action' if we knew our LO had Downs and after 4 years of TTC and 2 x IVF, and at age 37 this is probably the only pregnancy we will ever have - so there seems no point in having the test for us. Anyone else in the same boat? Pleased to say my MW seemed fine with this approach (I have read other threads where MW's have implied women are being irresponsible for turning down the test shock

Roxo - congrats on the scan! we went away with my family last week and ended up telling my DB, DS, SiL and BiL at the airport. Mainly because my mum kept whispering 'when are you going to tell them!!' at me really loudly! It worked out well, and my Dad insisted on buying champagne on the plane for us all and telling all the stewardesses that he was going to be a Grandad grin

sneezy - great you found him on the Doppler! Can you tell me which brand it was? The cheap ones get mixed reviews but sounds like yours really works! Thinking about getting one for reassurance between appointments.

Have lovely Saturdays everyone x

HaveALittleFaith Sat 29-Sep-12 09:59:19

Dandelion I know what you mean. We have decided to have the nuchal tests and bloods but I would be very loathe to act on them. DH doesn't want to talk about it until/unless it indicates its a risk. I just kind of think it would mean we were better informed.

CrackleMauve Sat 29-Sep-12 10:06:25

We had the tests more to be informed and prepared more than because I think I would necessarily do something with the result. At least if it came back with markers for Downs. There are other things they can pick up then like Edwards Syndrome and that has very different implications for the baby's survival which we'd need to consider.

EssexWelsh Sat 29-Sep-12 10:25:34

Can I ask mama and anyone else who may need a stitch, I had a cone biopsy 2 years ago and was told I'd need to stitch, have a colposcopy next Friday as there was a concern there was more cervical changes, my MW said to ask then, but what is the normal procedure for getting it done, who does it and where and...does it hurt?

SneezySnatcher Sat 29-Sep-12 14:13:56

Dandelion it was just an Angelsounds one - not digital or anything but it worked well. I found the heartbeat after only a minute or so, but I would have tried not to worry if I hadn't found it as I know it's not easy. There's no mistaking it's the baby though - if my heart beat that quickly I'd worry I was ill!

Another here who isn't having the nuchal/blood test (although sonographer did still check the fold and said it was fine - she said she had to look). Didn't have the tests for DD either. The only person I know whose child has Downs was given a very, very low risk and, unfortunately, she was that one in a few thousand. Like you, we wouldn't 'take action' anyway, although it might be comforting to be "prepared" if there were any issues.

MrsJohnDeere Sat 29-Sep-12 16:29:37

I will be having the Nuchal test. Partly my age, and partly because the local hospital won't give me a 12 week scan until 16 weeks.confused. No way could I hold out that long without knowing everything is ok.

I seem to have ballooned overnight. I'm still only 9+3 but now have a very pronounced bump, and my boobs seem to have grown lots in just 24 hours. Can't imagine I'm going to be able to keep this under wraps for another 3 weeks. I may have to buy some maternity jeans earlier than I planned, as I have almost nothing to wear. I've got 2 pairs of jeans that still fit well and I've gone and torn a hole in one of them today.angry

I have been deliberately wearing baggy jumpers when out and about, but today I was pottering in the garden just wearing a t-shirt because I didn't expect to see anyone. Then my neighbour knocked at the door and ao forgot to throw another layer on. I suspect it will be all round school by Monday morning!

steph2412 Sat 29-Sep-12 16:53:09

How is everyone today?i feel so tired i cant explain it as had an early night ans slept well.ive got no energy and feel drained!roll on tuesday for my scan fingers crossed for a healthy baby x

HaveALittleFaith Sat 29-Sep-12 17:49:11

I've been shopping today and got measured for a new bra. Despite a lack of weight gain I have already gone up a back and cup size! I wasn't small to short with hmm got a couple of plain but functional bras and a gorgeous gilet.

magictorch Sat 29-Sep-12 19:45:46

Dandelion DH and I have a similar view. We'd have the test simply to be forewarned, but after 7 years TTC and finally successful on 4th fertility treatment means that we're so happy to finally be expecting that we think we could cope with Downs, especially knowing/having worked with Downs people.

Essex really interested that you've been told you have to have a stitch as I've had cone biopsies and a colposcopy. Think I'll check with MW for reassurance.

Loving all the happy scan stories.
Wishing the days away to scan on Wednesday now!


Mama1980 Sun 30-Sep-12 08:16:55

Morning all
Essex: according to th info I was given a cervical stitch is usually done between 12-14 weeks when there is a weak cervix and risk of miscarriage or preterm labour. I was given it due to the fact my cervix is slightly open and otherwise of is very high risk. They can either put in a permanent stitch which will need a c section (I have this) or a temporary one which they usually take out mid way through the third trimester. I had mine done by a dr under regional anaesthetic often dr said they use a general but my bp is too low for that. I also had a nurse holding my hand. I couldn't feel anything but afterwards it was uncomfortable. You have to stay still and they observe you in case the stitch has done anything odd-risks are few I believe. Another woman i talked too was allowed home a few hours later but had to rest for several days. Tbh I found it pretty painless and nothing like I was worried about iyswim. Hope any of that helps? smile

Mama1980 Sun 30-Sep-12 08:23:38

Oh and they literally suture together either side of your cervix. But as I said less awful than it sounds!

HaveALittleFaith Sun 30-Sep-12 08:41:08

Morning all! How are you Mama? Any closer to escaping?!

We have a lazy day planned, might take a trip to the coast smile
10+2 (17 days til scan!)

steph2412 Sun 30-Sep-12 08:58:41

Morning all 2 days until scan yippee!were having a lazy day today to im hoping if i do nothing today i can blitz house tomorro when dh back at work and kids back at school so i wont be worrying to much on my own!need to keep busy sure i wont sleep tomorro night!mama hope you are ok i had to have some treatment on my cervix for abnormal cells wondering if i to may need a stitch?x

birdbrain17 Sun 30-Sep-12 10:41:43

Well giddy it wasn't snowing but it was a road that made an S look like a straight line and it's £62 nowdays! I decided he failed me because he was some grumpy middle aged man who was jealous of my wedding ring and little bump I bet he has no girlfriend or something and taking it out on people like me...

JessieEssex Sun 30-Sep-12 13:28:27

Hi all - bit worried, wonder if anyone can help.
I've just got back from a weekend away to a letter from the hospital saying:

'Following your recent blood tests we have noted that one of your hormone levels is a little lower than we would typically expect and for that reason I would like to invite you to attend for a scan at around 28 weeks and consultation to discuss this further. A low level of hormone is sometimes associated with smaller babies, so we take this precaution of offering you extra surveillance during the pregnancy to monitor this; there is no cause for alarm.'

Of course Dr Google came out and now I'm boggled by all the possibilities. I can ring the midwife tomorrow for more information but I'm panicking already.

I've already had my Down's risk factor back (low at 1:1717) but I'm confused by what this could mean.


JessieEssex Sun 30-Sep-12 13:30:32

ps the hormone was Papp-A

aufaniae Sun 30-Sep-12 13:35:03

JessieEssex, purely anecdotal, but perhaps a tiny bit reassuring? They were worried about DS being small at some points in my pregnancy (due to a notch on the blood flow in the womb). He was 9lb 4oz at birth (ouch!!)

I remember how worrying those times were, sending you unmumsnetty ((((((((hugs)))))))))

Have they said which hormone?

aufaniae Sun 30-Sep-12 13:36:17

Oh, cross threads! Hope someone here knows about Papp-A.

Have you posted a thread about it in pregnancy? The collective wisdom of mumsnet is almost boundless, as I'm sure you know smile

JessieEssex Sun 30-Sep-12 16:40:24

Thanks for replying aufanaie - I feel like it's two steps forward and one step back in this pregnancy - after a previous mc I have been so nervous and had finally started to chill out, and now this! All I have googled read seems to say that I shouldn't worry. I'm going to call the midwife in the morning to talk about it, and also post on the pregnancy board as you suggest.

kellestar Sun 30-Sep-12 17:06:57

jessieessex I have no idea about the hormone papp-a, might be worth starting another thread. I had extra scans from 28 weeks as DD was small for dates. She was 40+6 and was 5lb 13oz so not tiny, they predicted a 6lb baby. I had scans every 4 weeks. I had just been diagnosed with hyperthyroidism when I fell pg with DD and was taking something to lower my levels and it may have caused DD to be small. Saying that both me and DH were 6lb dead on. The extra scans were great, we had one at 28 weeks and 36 weeks. She is still on the same centile 0.04th as she was at all the scans. She is fine other than just moving into 9-12 month clothes. Hope you get some re-assurance soon.

I went to a lovely wedding yesterday evening and me and DD had a fab time and left DH as home [he hates big social gatherings where he doesn't know anyone]. The food was divine and they had dandelion and burdock as a soft drink, it was lovely. Found out the bride's sister is due end of march, her DD is a little bit younger than mine.

mama glad to hear you are recovering, hope you go home soon.

alwayshopeful13 Sun 30-Sep-12 17:09:55

Happy Sunday all. Thread's been busy. I'm wiped out on the couch with unrelenting nausea and v tired as usual, so apols for not name checking on everyone's news. Sounds like it's been a busy few days for us lot. Jessie re your letter, of course you're going to fret but try not to overly - as the letter indicates there's probably nothing to worry about and it's good you'll get a bit more attention for the LO, no? Thinking of you over the next few days...

On my own countdown to scan this coming Friday. Constant nausea feels like reassurance that all is well but we still won't believe it til we see it. Next few days are going to feel SO long!!! As have the last 7 weeks or so. And if everything is ok, the next immediate focus will be praying the nausea and general state of feeling utterly rubbish with no energy ends soon. Pg is hard!!

Lots of Sunday good wishes to everyone for the week ahead.

11+2 (oh, ref earlier comments everyone's age....I'm 33).

Dysgu Sun 30-Sep-12 17:36:00

Hi All, I have not been around for a while - I had my booking in just over a fortnight ago and, whilst the MW was lovely, all the stuff she had to say about the additional risks due to my age got me all worried so I have spent the past fortnight with my head buried in the sand grin

However, whilst I am still much more worried about this PG than my previous two, I have pretty much reached the stage where I am resigned to recognising that there is nothing I can do if anything goes wrong and we will simply have to deal with it if it does.

I KNOW there is no other reason for anything going wrong apart from my age (I am 40 next month and I know there are ladies on this thread older) but I now have an appointment to see the consultant on the 23rd - although that is mainly die to 2 previous pre-term arrivals. My scan is on the 16th (which I am hoping is a good omen as it is my dad's bday) and I am just trying to get on with things.

I seem to have had almost ongoing flare ups too - I have psoriatic arthristis which usually gets better during PG so the fact that I have been suffering the pain and (possibly additional exhaustion - that bit is hard to tell!) makes me worry more about DC3.

Still - here is a question...
What are people calling their bumps, if anything yet? DC1 was known as Stanley (after someone joked about using it as a name - and I quite liked it!) and DC2 was known as Bit-B (for Baby In The Belly).

Hope all is well with everyone else and I am now planning to keep up to date here.

toobreathless Sun 30-Sep-12 18:02:56

I am 28 years old & will be 29 when the baby arrives, this is DC2, I was 27 when DD arrived.

At times I feel do young then I remember that there are Ladies ten years younger than me having babies! I think part of it is that my profession has one of the highest rates of IVF & people tend to have babies later

Dandelion we opted out of Screening for DD as we wouldn't have done anything with an abnormal result. It is difficult thought as they also test for Edwards & Patel's syndromes which are usually fatal around the time of birth or in early infant hood. They are rarer though than Down's Syndrome.

We opted in this time & my result came back at 1 in 100,000. Which I was certain was wrong after reading others results here. I thought they might have misplaced a zero so I rang them (neurotic!) but it is correct. We only opted in as we have DD to think about, no other reason.

Will check in again later with more name checking!

steph2412 Sun 30-Sep-12 19:17:44

Hi jessie i dont have any advice but i would try not to worry if there was a serious problem they would want to see you straight away.try not to worry i know easier said than done x

Missmuffet28 Sun 30-Sep-12 22:56:53

Hi all see this thread has been really busy again!!
Mama glad to see your nearly there now smile
Jessie again I have no advice for you but I'm sure a chat with the midwife will make you feel tons better!
Alwayshopeful I'm counting down with you mine is on fri too!!!
toobreathless I'm in exactly the same age boat as you will be not long 29 when this one comes

I'm going for the screening, dp and I don't know what we'd do if results came back not good we both have said we would discuss it if we had to cross that bridge

My cousin told me in confidence tonight that she is having a girl and she's calling her Ruby so guess I better cross ruby off my short list hehe! She has until January to change her mind so won't discard it completely, I won't be mentioning it was on my short list I think that'd be unfair somehow.
My nausea seems to have gone from all day to just evenings at the mo which is a pain I'd rather eat it over in the morning but it usually hits when I'm cooking my troop tea then I don't want to eat making it worst sad

Well take care all will check in again soon smile

Missmuffet28 Sun 30-Sep-12 22:58:51

Get it over not eat it over!!
Doh got eating on the brain!!

Mama1980 Mon 01-Oct-12 08:13:41

Morning all hope everyone is well?
Waiting to see the dr this morning to discuss going home so please keep all fingers and toes crossed everyone! smile

Dandelion75 Mon 01-Oct-12 08:47:31

Morning all

Thanks for all the replies on nuchal testing. There is a thread running on the tests forum on the same topic if anyone is still undecided.

Anyone got their scan today? I'm hoping to read lots of great scan stories to keep me going until we finally get ours tomorrow! It's felt like waiting a lifetime.

I've done something I never, ever do today and called work to say I'm going to take a day reading mumnsnet and online shopping working at home. Just woke up feeling really uncomfortable - like all my insides are just all pressing on each other. Anyone else had that at 13 weeks? Im working on the assumption that i have just slept a bit funny...... The other issue is that I literally have nothing whatsoever I can wear for work without a) cutting myself in half or b) looking obviously pregnant. Tried to get dressed for work, and just gave up grin

Have agreed with DP that if scan all goes ok tomorrow will go out and buy some maternity trousers for work after the scan - and then I can actually go to work on Weds!

Good luck today mama - hope you finally get home x

dysgu - embarrassed to admit that so far we are calling our LO 'Lesley'. Bit of a family joke. Best not to ask.....grin

Can't remember who asked about ages, but I'm turning 37 this week and DP is the same age.

13 weeks today grin

somewherebecomingrain Mon 01-Oct-12 08:53:44

jessieessex my papp-a is a bit low too so i googled it. it can be associated with smaller babies but often isn't. that's all i know.

we're calling our bump 'Buzz'. There's a good reason for this but i don't want to give it away.


steph2412 Mon 01-Oct-12 09:03:42

Hi dandellon my scan is tomorro aswell the waiting is the worst i have a morning app so im glad!hope everything goes well mama got everything crossed!hope everyone is feeling well x

Giddypants Mon 01-Oct-12 09:46:28

Morning ladies, mama hope the end is in site and you get home soon, fingers x
Was working yesterday, and I'm a bit doubled over in pain today, I don't think I'll be working much longer at this rate back again tomorrow just hope it's not as mad!
aufaniae what does a notch mean? I have one on my uterine arteries which means I'm at high risk of developing pre-eclampsia but I don't know what it actually means need to talk to the consultant I had googled that a high calcium and vitamin C diet can reduce the risk of pre eclampsia by 50% anyone else heard that?

We are calling bump 'sprout' because of the bad wind I've been gettingblush

leluella Mon 01-Oct-12 09:55:00

Hey Dandelion, I have my scan today and am 12+5. It was supposed to be last week but I was on hold so this is the first day they could do it.
Quite nervous for the nuchal results as I am 35 but fingers crossed everything would be OK.
I am also struggling with clothes for work....especially after a week of holiday eating and currently have about 2 outfits that fit comfortably. Also couldn't get into skinny jeans yesterday.

Good luck for your scan tomorrow and everyone else with scans today/tomorrow.

leluella Mon 01-Oct-12 09:56:21

...that was meant to say I was on holiday, not on hold!

JessieEssex Mon 01-Oct-12 10:07:23

I just spoke to the midwife at the hospital about my low Papp-A levels, and she said that it's nothing to worry about and not to panic. She said that they will do an extra growth scan at 28 weeks because the baby could be small, but that more often than not, there will be no cause for concern or further monitoring. She said that I should just think of it as an extra chance to see the baby!
Feel soooo much better. Good luck to all the scan ladies today.

leluella good luck at your scan today! Enjoy seeing your little one.

Mama I have everything crossed for you, hope they let you out soon good luck!

I'm still feeling sick. All my jeans are having to be worn undone now although I refuse to buy anything maternity until at least 4 months. Ha!
I wouldn't mind if it were a baby bump but it's all bloating. Baby is still hidden behind pubic bone!
I've been calling this one gummy bear since the scan I had at 8wks as that is exactly what she looks like. And I've also decided its a girl grin I'm always wrong though so its bound to be a boy. But can't keep saying it!

Hope you all have a good day.

Jessie that's fab news. It's horrible when they tell you there's something different from "normal" and you can't help but worry. I had something similar once with antibodies. Never did get to the bottom of it!

Glad you're feeling more relaxed now.

MrsJohnDeere Mon 01-Oct-12 11:02:28

Jessie - what a relief for you.

Giddy - never heard that but it sounds interesting. I had Pre-eclampsia in both previous pregnancies so am assuming I'll get it this time. I will make a point of asking the consultant about diet etc.

aufaniae Mon 01-Oct-12 11:25:12

Giddypants I had a notch on the bloodflow from one of the arteries into the womb. I think they picked up there was a problem from my bloods, and then confirmed the notch via dopler scan.

DS and I were treated for it simply by me taking low-dose aspirin for the rest of the pregnancy. I had a few extra scans.

DS was 9lb 4oz at birth so not certainly not small! (Unless he was meant to be an 11lber, perhaps?!)

I have asked if I should be taking aspiring again this pregnancy and so far have had conflicting answers. My Dr seemed the most convincing, she said that a notch isn't considered a problem anyway until after a certain time (was it 16 weeks?) and that currently the placenta is massive compared to the baby so not to worry right now. Once the scan's out of the way I'll pursue it again I think.

Morning all, can't remember enough to name check but glad scans are going well.
Mine is not til the 16th when I'll be 12+6, the week after I think I might go and live at the hospital because I have my maternity consultant on 22nd, my oncology bloods on 23rd, then my oncology follow up on 24th. Poor dd will be spending a lot of time playing on my iPad while I talk to all the medical pro's. luckily she is really good having spent a lot of time at the hospital with me last year when I was having bloods and lines changed for chemo.
Re ages, I was 28 when I had ds, turned 30 while I was pg with dd and will be 33 on Wednesday so consider myself average age, & dh is the same, but the majority of our uni and school friends only have 1 or none so we seem to have started early.
I must be mad because I am looking after not only my 2 year old today, but also a friends, and with this crappy weather all my plans for feeding ducks have been scuppered. Was going to do some baking, but distinct lack of eggs, so they are content in the playroom trashing it from the sounds of it!!
We are off to Disneyland Paris tomorrow as a celebrtion not only of my birthdays but also as it is a year since chemo started.

Dandelion75 Mon 01-Oct-12 11:51:28

Just wondered - those of you who work and have not yet 'revealed' your pregnancy to work colleagues, are you planning to do so right after your 12 week scans?

My scan is tomorrow, and I'm already seriously struggling to hide my massive girth grin. Is it too soon to reveal all at 13 weeks.....?

MichaelFinnegansWhiskers Mon 01-Oct-12 12:13:59

Hello! I've come very late (11 weeks today!) but please may I join you? I have a lot of catching up to do...

Wearing my maternity jeans for the first time today. With dd, now 19 months, i don't think i even bought any maternity wear until about 15 weeks. Haven't told anyone yet, but will be amazed if anyone is surprised! Planning to tell people soon after the scan though, dandelion, yes.

jessie - glad the midwife was reassuring. I had a low Papp-a with dd, and it was all fine apart from scaring myself silly with googling! I had the extra scan, which was nice, and then she was a perfectly average weight when she was born.

photochick Mon 01-Oct-12 12:39:20

Scan later today. Fingers tightly crossed all ok.
Told my cousin at the weekend as she had the same obstetrician as I will have. This is the first person outside the immediate family I have told and she was so excited and pleased for us. It was lovely!
Not intending to tell anyone else till after at least 12 weeks. Plus have my appraisal at work coming up. Want that out the way before I announce as want the focus on what I have achieved this year not what they are going to do when I go off next year!
10 + 3 (31)

Giddypants Mon 01-Oct-12 12:51:22

That's interesting aufaniae I wonder if that's what happened with DS (placenta gave up) he was 4lb 7oz at 37 weeks
I hope it can be sorted by some aspirin, one this is for sure I'm not going to be fobbed of with 'it'll be ok' this time!

Giddypants Mon 01-Oct-12 12:52:09

Oh and we're they bothered about increased risk of bleeding, or did they stop the aspirin a few days before you we're due?

aufaniae Mon 01-Oct-12 13:08:10

I don't remember. It does ring a vague bell, I think perhaps I did stop it sometime before my due date.

Sorry to be vague!

They were worried about DS being too big and too small! (I forget where the too big worry came from now). At one point, they had me booked in for one scan to check he wasn't too small, and another separate scan a few days later to check he wasn't too big!

I phoned them up and said "you know, about these scan dates, I've got a great idea ... " grin

aufaniae Mon 01-Oct-12 13:08:42

I think you're right to try to make sure you're not fobbed off.

Giddypants Mon 01-Oct-12 16:42:53

Thanks for the info I will go in with a load of information, and probably my mum grin I'm a push over really but she stands no shit lol.

Hi ladies, back from our campervan trip in France and Spain. Can't believe how much this new thread has sped up again, will read properly on way home tonight. smile

The trip was great, the nausea wasn't too bad apart from the first ferry journey and some of the longer drives on winding roads, but overall it was way better than being in the office and dwelling on feeling starving or sick.

It also helped to be able to constantly nibble on endless fresh french baguettes - yum!

I'm 10+3 today and the time has flown, so surprised to be in double digits already. Reassurance scan this Sat before before proper dating scan on 16th.

MichaelFinnegansWhiskers Mon 01-Oct-12 18:30:56

Can I just ask, has anyone else developed spots? I seem to have greasy teenage skin again - I don't remember THIS from last time!

Mmmm baguettes ... is it dinner time yet?

angeltattoo Mon 01-Oct-12 18:36:37

Someone at work asked me today if I was, I said yes, but scan not until Thursday, hopefully they will keep it quiet. If scan is ok, I will probably tell everyone on Friday or Monday...also, I was properly showing today so it may not be much of a surprise.

Right, brace yourselves for a moan ladies...I have just collasped into a flood of tears in my kitchen, wailing 'I just want to drink something!!!', not I'm not a raging alcholic, but I have had worse MS day yet here, I have been sick 6 times, cannot keep fluids down, let alone food...sob. I got to work 3 hours after I woke up, and was violently sick there, too. Also just thrown up a drink of water at home sad

My husband is away so I am feeling throughtly sorry for myself and moaning on here.

Please tell me that this peak will ease off tomorrow soon and I may feel human again?

My scan is Thrsday (cannot wait!), had my mum on the phone at the weekend asking if she can tell people, I told her not until after the scan and I say so, although I don't trust her to have listened! My brother has also told me she's been buying things like crazy, when I asked her not to until after the 20 week scan...hmmmmm.

Sorry for the me, me, me.

12 + 0 (ish - TBC on Thursday!)

Teapig Mon 01-Oct-12 18:55:39

Looking forward to hearing how the latest scans have gone, great to see there are more tommorrow.

Really pleased you got reassurance Jessie. Why do these letters always come at the weekend when you have to wait to speak to the mid-wife? Great news that it's nothing to worry about but an extra chance to see your little one.

I have everything crossed for you mama, hope you're home very soon.

I've had a few cramps today which I'm trying not to worry about. I made a cake on Sunday and stupidly tucked into a load of the cake mix until DH pointed out it had raw eggs in. I feel stupid and dreadful after being so careful to avoid under cooked eggs.

A massive week and two days to go before I have my scan. Keep the good scan news coming.

Teapig Mon 01-Oct-12 19:03:22

Sorry to hear you've had so much sickness angel. It's even worse when you feel rubbish and OH isn't there. Hoping it lifts v soon x

HaveALittleFaith Mon 01-Oct-12 19:04:40

teapig are you 17th too? We can be scan buddies then! Seems like forever away...

I'm glad you're reassured Jessie, what a horrible wait it must have been.

Hope they're willing to boot you soon Mama!

I am feeling very emotional at the moment. I'm about to change jobs at work (been seconded for two years) and going back on shifts sad not really looking forward to that. I threw a major wobbley yesterday!


MrsJohnDeere Mon 01-Oct-12 19:06:04

Yes, greasy skin and 3 spots here. Like I would get before my period came. Also don't remember this happening before.

aufaniae Mon 01-Oct-12 19:06:52

steph and anyone else scanning tomorrow, hope all goes well smile

SneezySnatcher Mon 01-Oct-12 19:36:57

angel is it worth going to see the doc? DSIL has been like you (sick at work, throwing up liquid) and ended up in hospital last week on a drip. It's surprising how easy it is to get dehydrated. She's now been given some meds that dissolve in your mouth and they have really helped.

And whoever asked - pretty spotty here too (mostly on chin). Glamorous!

Wow - after a weeks holiday it's taking me an age to catch up with you all. So glad to hear about the many lovely scans. Mines tomorrow, and I'm dreading it, really don't want to hear any bad news. Especially after my scan at 8 weeks knowing that there was a little person in there. It's not until lunchtime, so I'll have all morning to fret about it.

Oops 13+3

angeltattoo Mon 01-Oct-12 20:27:47

Thanks sneezy , if it doesn't improve I will go to the Dr, i don't mind not eating, but not drinking is bad.

I have lots of painful spots too, and a coldsore, so i also look lovely! smile

CrackleMauve Mon 01-Oct-12 20:46:29

Sorry the sickness is so bad angeltatoo. Do go to the docs if you continue not to be able to keep fluids down. They can prescribe you drugs to help. I've been having acupuncture this time round which has helped keep my sickness reduced, although not eliminated it completely.

kellestar Mon 01-Oct-12 20:48:57

teapig if they are lion stamped eggs you are fine, those hens have been vaccinated against salmonella and the other bugs. Most free range eggs are fine, but I'm not taking the chance and DH gets to eat the one egg we get from our 4 hens and I buy lion stamped eggs from the supermarket.

angel it really is vile. today I've been throwing up nothing, just retching and nothing to come up. I feel so crappy afterwards, 4 pukes today and DH was grumpy that I hadn't got to the supermarket, yet managed to bake a pineapple upside down cake [me and DD scoffed a quarter of it before he got home smile] Just keep trying little bits. Speak to your midwife if you feel a bit lethargic as that's a sign of dehydration, it's worse in pregnancy as it eats your muscle [rather than fat] to give you energy. I've been dropping in a weekly pee sample to check for ketones, which is evidence you are dehydrated. I know a few people admitted and put on a drip, they'll also look at medication to ease the puking. There are quite a range out there.

I was really spotty and greasy, but it seems to be clearing up and I've got a little bit of a healthy glow. My hair looks dull though.

Good luck for all those scanning tomorrow. Mine is next tuesday, 9th October.

Umm 11+1

Teapig Mon 01-Oct-12 20:52:49

Faith my scan is on the 10th, just over a week to go. I managed to bring it forward from the 12th but have now realised it's going to be tough to get time off work in the 10th. Oh well I cannot wait a minute longer than I have to so work will have to manage. Hope the 17th flies round for you.

Teapig Mon 01-Oct-12 20:55:12

Thanks kellestar, they were lion stamped so feel much better.

enjay0811 Mon 01-Oct-12 23:20:57

Hi all, been keeping upto date on the goin ons here but not posted for a while! Just checking in today as had my scan atlast and there is def 1 little wriggly baby in there grin they were trying out a new machine so took ages with the scan but only Dh cld see most of it, I was very jealous just glad all is ok! Due date changed slightly to 19th April now so 11+4.

Can't remember names sorry but catching up on the gossip...can't decide on names at all but dd who is 5 keeps suggesting some bless her. Have 2 dd's so resigning myself to the fact that this is prob a girl too which wld b lovely but kind of hoping for a boy - am I allowed to admit that?!

Re telling people - I actually told work colleagues just over a wk ago long story but surprisingly most said, oh thought so! and were.nt very shocked at all! Esp those of you who have expending baby bumps bloating belly's like me or have stopped drinkin tea, they are an observent lot!

Spots - not too bad but very blotchy. With bags under my eyes like suitcases too, not feelin the most attractive atm! Did defuzz my legs and lady bits this mornin while I can still see em so made me feel bit better smile

Sickness has worn off a lot now but tiredness killing me. Fell asleep at 9.30 on the sofa and just dragged myself upto bed to catch up on MN so off to sleep now.

And I'm 31 and Dh is 35. 26 when I had dd1 and 28 with dd2. Will b 32 when dc3 arrives.

Glad everyone else is having fab scan news. Good luck to those getting them soon! ....now, the count down to the anomoly scan starts!

bunnygirl80 Tue 02-Oct-12 00:48:29

I've been trying to keep up with the thread, but every time I attempt to post it just disappears confused

angel if you're struggling to even keep fluids down then you should go to the doctors. They will be able to give you something to help stop the vomiting.

Good luck to all those with scans coming up

We went to look at double buggies yesterday, although wont be buying for a few months. DH basically refused to have an opinion or push any of them round the shop, then we ended up rowing about his lack of enthusiasm, and I'm no closer to making a decision than before we went. Grrrrr

steph2412 Tue 02-Oct-12 07:07:38

Morning all good luck to everyone having scans today its finally arrived and now i am petrified!got everything x for a healthy baby. got my app at 11 so not to long to wait x

Missmuffet28 Tue 02-Oct-12 07:58:40

Good luck steph and other scan ladies!!!
Will be checking in for lots of scan stories later!
I only have 3 more days to wait until mine I'm getting nervous already! I'm also afraid I might drink too much water and they'll press too hard and make me wee lol is that possible?!!

alwayshopeful13 Tue 02-Oct-12 08:24:33

Good luck steph and anyone else with scans today-will be thinking of you and sending lots of good wishes.

missmuffet fab to have a scan buddy for Friday. The days are going SO slowly aren't they?!

Missmuffet28 Tue 02-Oct-12 08:30:20

Definately!! Just want it to be my turn now! It seems like forever ago I poas but I bet this week alone is gonna feel like an eternity!!

Mama1980 Tue 02-Oct-12 08:30:39

Good luck today Steph and everyone else smile
Good and bad news here, the good is I can go home tomorrow so long as I come to get scanned every week and don't move! The bad is latest scan showed a possible notch in blood flow and that bones have moved so because I've never been more than 26 weeks pregnant they may have to deliver then sad 13 weeks now but there's nothing more they can do I just have to wait and see how my body holds up. Very very scared suddenly.
Sorry don't mean to cast a shadow here- am so very happy to hear all the good news scan stories.

leluella Tue 02-Oct-12 08:53:46

Well my scan went really well yesterday. It was amazing to see that there is actually a baby in there. Baby was having a snooze so the sonographer had to prod around to wake her up and she had a little stretch and wriggle. The position was really good to get the NT measurements which were 1.3mm which I understand is good and the nasal bone was prominent which was another good sign. Just waiting on the blood results which I probably won't get until next Monday so still holding off telling anyone the news until then.

Good luck to everyone with scans today.

Missmuffet28 Tue 02-Oct-12 09:06:09

mama well I will have my everything crossed for you just try and stay positive x

itsaruddygame Tue 02-Oct-12 10:02:59

Mama - really feel for you - it must be such a worry for you. I hope you feel a bit better when you get home and have your family around you. Everything crossed for you that they can keep that little bean in there baking away for as long as possible.

toobreathless Tue 02-Oct-12 13:36:17

Yay for more good scans leluella

Mama one day at a time! Baby has done so well so far & it sounds like you are getting excellent care. Remember, for today you are pregnant & hopefully tomorrow will take care of itself. These threads are here for the good & the bad times. Although it would be lovely to all have water births on our due date, with easy newborns & no feeding problems lets be honest it's not going to happen! There will be ups & downs. So never feel bad about posting here.

BonaDea Tue 02-Oct-12 14:08:00

Just popping in to say to everyone.

Mama that is so tough, but all you can do is take one week at a time, look after yourself, let the doctors do their job and stay positive.

Everyone else- happy happy scan news, I'm delighted for you all.

I've been getting some funny looks at work today as I'm wearing quite a tight fitting top and it is pretty obvious I'm not the same shape as I used to be! I'm 'out' now, but just been telling people as I've been chatting to them (rather than making some sort of big announcement - embarrassing) so there are definitely some people who must be wondering whether to say something to me!


steph2412 Tue 02-Oct-12 14:10:28

Hi all good scan here baby was bouncing around so took a little longer to to measurements but i am so happy and due date stays the same so 12weeks today x

photochick Tue 02-Oct-12 14:26:37

mama and angel make sure you look after yourselves x

Good news on the scans. I had mine yesterday. There is a wriggling bean in there! All good and dates are spot on. I got a fit of the giggles watching it and got told off for moving grin.

angel also have a mum madly buying stuff. I say thank you and then it goes in a box in the spare room for now. FIL also asking last night when they can tell people I was quite firm and said I was waiting till after 12wks, its not much longer!!


toobreathless Tue 02-Oct-12 14:29:09

Yay steph

13 + 4

Brilliant news on all the good scans grin Can't wait for mine now. Only 6 more days!

Mama Yayyyyyyy for going home!! It must be quite a relief. Not so great on the other front. But at least they will be extremely well prepared and know there is a possibility you will deliver early and they can help baby out as much as possible before hand with steroids etc. Everyday is another day of growing stronger and healthier smile Have absolutely everything crossed that your strong little bean stays put as long as it possibly can x


angeltattoo Tue 02-Oct-12 15:14:33

Hi all,

Have managed to keep fluids and some food down today, feeling much better an I hope it stays that way.

Great to hear good scan news, i am getting nervous now for Thursday.

mama great to hear your good news, as for the not so good...each day is a day closer, we are all thinking of you

somewherebecomingrain Tue 02-Oct-12 15:35:39

mama you are so brave - they will take excellent care of you and be so careful and i am praying for you and your lovely baby to have an easy ride.

i was sick today - 12+5. confused.

wonderful about everyone's scans. good luck to those with scans coming up xxx

steph2412 Tue 02-Oct-12 15:43:10

How have everyone elses scans gone today?im so happy x

aufaniae Tue 02-Oct-12 15:50:59

Feeling a bit deflated. Nuchal was 2.5 which a quick google tells me is not in the danger zone, but that there may be concerns at 2.6 or above. A bit close for comfort if you ask me.

Of course the result comes from the bloods too, but it was the bloods which gave us the high result last time. The nuchal was small last time. So I'm a bit worried it's going to be high risk again, seeing as I'm older too. (Risk was 1 in 17 last time),

They couldn't tell me when I'll get the results at the hospital. So I rang the midwives and they said they weren't sure, possibly at my 16 week check hmm that's too late to have the option of CVS. She took my details and said she'd get the antenstal results coordinator to call me back tomorrow to see if I can get them sooner.

At my last hospital we got the results within days. Surely they don't make everyone wait 3.5 weeks or so as standard?!! That makes no sense.

It was lovely to see the baby, but I'm going tl be a bundle of nerves till I get the results, and then I'm expecting there's a good chance we'll have to go for a CVS.

steph2412 Tue 02-Oct-12 16:08:50

Hi aufaniae mine was 1.2 but the midwife said if the bloods came bk as high risk i would get a phonecall within the next 7 days so id keep pushing them hope your ok sending hugs x

Mama1980 Tue 02-Oct-12 16:16:13

Thanks so much everyone. I have just had another scan the last for a week and babe is wriggling away, given the circumstances they said if I want they'll try to see the sex as early as possible for me which is exciting-had a bit of a cry but generally feeling better and can't wait to get home to my children.

Dandelion75 Tue 02-Oct-12 16:29:12

Another great scan over here too! LO was dancing all over the place and lots of waving arms and legs. Got brilliant pics too. Very exciting and also now VERY REAL! I'm definitely pregnant! It's not just from all the Frazzles and lemon drizzle cake I've been scoffing grin

Only debate now is on dates. Our IVF clinic had due date as 6th April, MW made it 8th April and scan moved it to 4th April confused. Not sure why its so confusing - thanks to IVF I know not just the date, but also the time that LO was conceived smile. This means I am somewhere between 13+5 and 13+1 - but I'm liking 13+5 the most wink

aufaniae - they can't possibly leave you to wait that long for your NT results. I would definitely push for results sooner - as you said, what's the point of giving you the NT is they make you wait so long for the results that its too late for CVS? Hope you get this sorted soon and get a good result x

13+5 (or +3 or +1 - god only knows!)

Cadmum Tue 02-Oct-12 16:31:45

Thinking of you aufaniae. I hope you have reassuring results soon. Isn't it amazing how something so amazing can be so worrying?!? Stay away from Dr. Google! I am happy to hold your hand until you get the blood results and beyond. Did they look for other soft markers?

Sorry that things are still challenging mama1980. I hope the predictions are pessimistic and that baby stays put as long as possible. You are an amazingly brave mum.

Hello to everyone else. I am off to bed. 10:30 here already...

leluella Tue 02-Oct-12 16:57:16

aufaniae - when I asked when I would find out the blood test results the midwife said they'd call me within 7 days if there was a problem. I was a bit suprised by this as I would like to know the actual risk that they have calculated for peace of mind regardless if there is a problem or not so she said I could call up ante-natal and find out if I do not hear from them in 7 days. You also never know if someone has forgotten to call you about something or to send a letter..there seems to be so many oversights and silly mistakes that its always worth following up yourself. My GP even forgot to put my blood type on my notes for the clinic so had to have another blood test..annoying!

somewherebecomingrain Tue 02-Oct-12 16:59:36

aufaniae good luck. 2.5 is definitely not bad. My first child was great bloods but bad scan (no nasal bone). this one was good scan but bad bloods. have you thought of getting a private scan? they will look at more markers and tell you much quicker. if you are near london i recommend the Fetal Medical Centre. 16 weeks is just not ok i don't think. you're in my thoughts.

somewherebecomingrain Tue 02-Oct-12 17:00:51

oh yes and for my nhs scan this time i called up the midwife, explained my wish to find out the combined result asap, and she gave me a direct line to the lab. i called up and got the result on the spot.

Bambino29 Tue 02-Oct-12 18:24:04

Ollibobs - have you managed to get a scan sorted yet? How frustrating that it's taken so long. Im' finding it hard enough waiting for mine a week on Thursday (I'll be 12 + 2)!

Wishfull - congratulations on your wedding baby! Although it definitely happened a little quicker than we were prepared for, there is something a bit romantic about it!

9 days to go until scan - can't WAIT, mainly as am desperate to start telling people. Am such a bad liar and pretty atrocious morning (and evening) sickness is turning me into an antisocial hermit - will be nice to have a proper excuse!

Hope everyone's doing really well. Xx

LoobyLou33 Tue 02-Oct-12 18:26:54

Hi everyone, good news about all the lovely scans. I remember last time being surprised how active the little bean was - almost somersaulting! Can't wait to see this one. Is the scan the first time you get to hear the heartbeat? Sure I got to hear it earlier last time...

Ollibobs any luck getting a booking? I had to chase chase chase to get mine, finally had it on Sat at 11 +2, but assured the scan would get booked in soon.

dandelion, with DS1 we didn't bother with nuchal / blood test as we wouldnt' have taken action, nor risked amniocentisis, since the mc risk is 1/100. This time I think I might get the combined test as if the risk is high I feel it would help to prepare mentally. But I don't know if it would just lead to unnecessary worry....?

Anyone else struggling to sleep? My nose is SO stuffed up, not from colds just from pregnancy! It means I often wake 4 times a night and don't seem to sleep deeply. I should go to the GP and see if I can get anything to take that's safe for baby.


Bambino29 Tue 02-Oct-12 18:28:36

P.S. thinking of you aufaniae and mama. x

toobreathless Tue 02-Oct-12 18:52:14

leluella you really should be given your result which means told the actual 'odds' as well as low/high risk. What I suspect your midwife means is that if there is a problem she will ring you in a week if not you should recieve a letter within 2 weeks.

SneezySnatcher Tue 02-Oct-12 20:44:43

I'm very happy. I've been craving Brie and Camembert but obviously we can't have it. The NHS site said it's ok as long as it's thoroughly cooked so I bunged a box of Camembert in the oven until it was like lava (and it burned my mouth) and had it with toasted crusty bread and red onion marmalade - gorgeous!

Scan went well, and happy to say little baby is growing well. I have now been dated at 14+1 when I was previously 13+4 and due date is now April the 1st ( was a bit concerned that she was going to give me a march date, as didn't want to have to leave the thread and join the march lot sad

NT measured at 1.8 which they were pleased with, although the sonographer said that baby measured at the very top end of when the can do the NT measurement, so we were lucky. Just waiting for my bloods to come back.

Have now made it official with friends and family, so the whole day has been overwhelming. Have now got a banging head with it all and desperate for my bed!

Ooh baked Camembert and crusty bread......... <drools>

HaveALittleFaith Tue 02-Oct-12 21:29:51

Oh if I'm so glad it's all good news for you (after what you went through last time!).

I've been lurking and keeping an eye on the news rolling in but just waiting for my scan (two weeks tomorrow since I'm latter end of the month!). I'm officially on holiday now though so I can chill out a bit smile


Ollibobs Tue 02-Oct-12 22:16:09

Sounds like it has been a good week for scans! Glad to hear everyone is hearing (and seeing) great news!

Thanks for asking for an update LoobyLou33 and Bambino29. I have actually just come in and got my letter for my scan/booking in appointment.

My booking in appointment (this Friday) and - get this - my scan date is scheduled for OCTOBER 31st!! When I will be 14+6!! That is way too late, right?

I was perfectly clear on the form when fertilization occurred (had IVF so we know the exact day) so its not like there is a change that I've miscalculated my days... So the hospital should know they are offering me a scan date that is too late.

AIBU to demand that I get the scan within the time frame that allows me to have my Nuchal test? From what I gather, this means that I will be too far along for a CVS should we want it after we get the results back... I don't want to be denied the access to the testing that is available.

I am not going to lie, I am furious. Apologies for being all me, me, me but I have had to fight to get the scan even sorted and now they are booking me in so late. 14+6! Argh!

Can they even do that?

Ollibobs Tue 02-Oct-12 22:17:36

Opps! I'm 10+6...

Ollibobs Tue 02-Oct-12 22:20:38

Also Dandelion75, how could your dates be changing? I thought with IVF (which I just had too) that as you know pretty much the 12-hour period when the eggs fertilize that your EDD was basically written in stone... Did your MW elaborate on how this was possible? I just don't get it... confused

Teapig Tue 02-Oct-12 22:36:56

Thinking of you mama and aufaniae x

Ollibobs I can't believe they have booked you in that late, how completely ridicolous. I'm sure they will change it when you speak to them but how frustrating.

Sneezy I am salivating over the thought of baked camembert, is it really true it's allowed? I am beside myself with excitement!

Just seen a facebook announcement for an early April baby, ooh could it be one of you lovely ladies?

11+0 feels like a milestone

usernamegoeshere Tue 02-Oct-12 22:41:55

This thread has been super busy in my absence - congratulations on all the good news & Mama, I think you are being very brave, am sure will be fine.

I have scan tomorrow, its a private one as I wasn't able to find a time with NHS where they were free + I was in the country till end of Oct. I haven't really been thinking about pregnancy much recently, I don't feel like I am... & am expecting to be told I had a missed miscarriage. Sorry if it sounds negative, but I just don't feel pregnant now so mentally preparing for that tomorrow. I feel a bit guilty as my best friend is coming with me, & she is super excited too.

I did use an iPhone Doppler app, but that was just for fun/curiosity, I'm a bit of a sceptic. I found the heartbeat in 2 different places, so I think it just picks up random background noises & makes them sound like heartbeats!!

12+0 today!

bunnygirl80 Tue 02-Oct-12 22:42:30

ollibobs if I were you I'd kick up an almighty fuss over your scan date. I'd ask to speak to the supervisor of midwives and the head of the scanning department, and if they don't sort it, I'd complain.

As for dandelions edd changing, I was told measurements from scans are only accurate to within 5 days at this stage. My obstetrician doesn't worry about changing the date, unless there's more than a 5 day difference between what scan says and what we thought. A measurement error of even a fraction of a millimeter will change the date, or dandelion could just be growing a bigger than average baby grin. I suppose the issue is whether you accept the revised edd, or insist on going with when you know conception occurred.

aufaniae Tue 02-Oct-12 22:43:25

Ollibobs could you try ringing the hospital to see if you could get the date changed?

My scan date was later than I was comfortable with, and I managed to get it changed by calling the sonography department direct (the number was on the scan letter).

Failing that, is private an option? IIRC 14+6 is too late for a reliable nuchal measurement, isn't it?

aufaniae Tue 02-Oct-12 22:44:39

Cross posts!

I agree with bunnygirl, time to kick up an almighty fuss! We're all behind you smile

aufaniae Tue 02-Oct-12 23:08:02

steph I expect you're right, they'll probably contact me if something's wrong. I think perhaps the people I spoke to today just didn't really know when/how the results are sent.

somewherebecomingrain thanks, that's reassuring smile

Can't afford a private scan unfortunately just got to wait it out, but I'll be on the phone to them to try to get the results asap!

Cadmum The sonographer was quite cagey I thought, I have no idea if that was just what she's like or if she was avoiding the subject for a reason <paranoid>
I did say I was worried about the results and she just said I'd have to wait for the results after the blood test. She didn't volunteer the information on the nuchal measurement, I saw it on the form she wrote to be sent off with the bloods. She said nothing about the nasal bone, I'm kicking myself that I forgot to ask. A completely different experience to my last scan, where they told me the nuchal measurement and pointed out the nasal bone. I've been trying to see it on the scan pictures but don't really know what it should look like!

leluella good advice, thanks smile

Thanks people for well wishes, and putting up with my worries, I am probably just being a worrywart. Just want to get this bit over with.

MrsJohnDeere Wed 03-Oct-12 06:30:33

Ollibobs - same here with scan dates. Having my booking in at 12 weeks and was told they'll do the scan 3-4 weeks after that! No free appointments or some such!

I've booked one privately instead.

SneezySnatcher Wed 03-Oct-12 07:43:51

Teapig yes it's true! As long as the 'bad' cheeses are heated to steaming all the way through they are fine. I cooked it for longer than I usually would, so it was bubbling hot.
I just can't believe I went nine months without it last time! I'm tempted to have another today!

"Thorough cooking should kill any bacteria, so it should be safe to eat cooked soft cheeses or dishes that contain them, such as baked brie or deep-fried camembert. Hard blue cheeses such as stilton are safe to eat without cooking." (from NHS site)

somewherebecomingrain Wed 03-Oct-12 08:31:33

omg baked camembert - i'm there.
french stick, red onion relish... mmmm.

good luck aufaniae there are so many women who go through this worry for nothing

shomes Wed 03-Oct-12 08:40:05

Hello all thanks for the link to new thread! Can almost not believe its 14 weeks on friday!!

Are any of you second time mums feeling movement yet at 14 weeks?

Mama1980 Wed 03-Oct-12 08:45:01

Morning all good luck everyone for scans and test results -sorry cant see everyone's names on iPad.
I will be 14 weeks on Friday and have been feeling something, not strong enough to be certain movement but kind of like a popping sensation. I also have a definite bump now which is lovely.
Will hopefully be updating from my own sofa later - am in my wheelchair already awaiting my brothers to come get me- I haven't told my dd I will be home when she gets back from school I can't wait to see her face grin

HaveALittleFaith Wed 03-Oct-12 09:06:04

Oh wonderful Mama! What a brilliant surprise for her grin

Giddypants Wed 03-Oct-12 09:13:37

Good news about going home mama bet you can't wait, just take it easy!

aufaniae I know it's difficult but try not to worry, I was told that the measurement was 3.0 before they would consider it a problem, but push for the blood results.

My back is playing up again, my left leg is numb, I hope it wears off soon, DS has an appointment at 1 I can't go in hobbling like the hunch-back of Norte damme! grin

As of yesterday I've been feeling a few flutters, more today but I was running around at work yesterday so didn't really get chance to sit and listen.
I think I felt DS at around 14 weeks which by my dates I am 14 weeks today, (14+4 by scan) need to ring today to book my 20 week scan, a girl at work has just had hers it looks amazing!
Had a quick chat with an obs dr who popped on yesterday and asked her about the notch, she said its not really anything to worry about and i will be monitored much more anyway, so trying to put my mind at rest and chill a little bit.

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 09:33:13

Yay mama fantastic you're going home smile

JessieEssex Wed 03-Oct-12 10:20:56

Aaaarrrrgh I'm feeling so sick today - how is that possible? I've been fine for about 10 days and it's back. Grrrrrrr.

But on the plus side, I'm definitely feeling movement, it's lovely. Just a couple of twitches a day, but there's no mistaking it. I think I first felt DD at about 18 weeks, but everyone says you feel it earlier the second time.

Great news that you're off home mama


JessieEssex Wed 03-Oct-12 10:22:27

Oooo! Just as I pressed 'post message', I felt a little thump. 'Oi, are you talking about me?!' grin

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 10:46:38

Jessie, that's lovely smile

itsaruddygame Wed 03-Oct-12 10:49:45

Fingers crossed for you Aufaniae. I am getting quite stressed now about my blood test results because they are taking so bloody long. I spoke to the midwife on Monday and nothing was showing on her system yet - she said to call back Thurs. In the meantime I have called the hospital to chase the lab but they wont respond to patients. No midwives available on Wednesdays at the centre I go to and the GP is bloody useless and have said they can't chase them only the Midwife. It has been almost 2 weeks now and I really want to now what the risk is! At 14 weeks I am starting to feel like getting a result is taking forever. Rant over. blush

steph2412 Wed 03-Oct-12 11:16:34

Itsaruddygame the mw told me yesterday if the results were high risk i would get a phone call within 7 days but if it was low risk i would receive a letter but that takes 2 to 3 weeks.hope that helps x

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 11:27:34

itsaruddygame thanks smile

Do you have a number for the team of midwives at the hospital, rather than the centre? Might they be open today? (I've found the number for mine on my folder). I rang them yesterday and they are putting me in contact with the one person who co-ordinates the ante-natal results at the hospital. I'm assuming she gets access to them before the MWs and could call the lab on my behalf - I wonder if they do the same at yours?

I agree that no news is probably good news, and hope that's some comfort, although I know in your position I would be going spare! That really is a long time to wait.

Fingers crossed for you too.

miarosemum Wed 03-Oct-12 12:39:35

Mama. Great news, your dd will be so excited...am also drooling at the thought of baked Camembert and crusty bread yum!! Had my NT scan today as was too early for measurement at my scan 2 weeks ago, measurement was 1.6mm within normal range and am 13+2 today! Also baby had grown 2 cm which is amazing in 2 weeks, now just the wait to 20 week scan!!

steph2412 Wed 03-Oct-12 13:35:31

Yay so much good scan news i hope thecwait to 20week scan doesnt drag so much!

Cadmum Wed 03-Oct-12 14:52:32

aufaniae I am sorry that the sonographer was not very communicative. I am not sure what to encourage you to do. A nuchal translucency measuring less than 3mm is not considered high risk here. Try not to worry but DO make a few phone calls to chase the results.

Great news mama. I hope your dd is thrilled!

Hello everyone else. Sorry for being brief. Hectic day!

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 14:58:37

It's not so much the 2.5 that's worrying me (although a smaller measurement would have been reassuring) it's more that we got a 1 in 17 risk last time, and I'm nearly 4 years older now, so I'm kind of expecting a high risk again this time and just want the result so we can get on with further testing if that's what we need to do.

I find it hard not to worry about this kind of stuff, even though I'm pretty laid back usually. Sorry you lovely lot for me inflicting my worries on you!

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 15:00:54

Mmmmm baked Camembert btw!

Might have some with a thimble full of red wine.


itsaruddygame Wed 03-Oct-12 15:57:12

I finally managed to get mine over the phone and I am low risk - phew. Compared to some of the results I have seen on here the odds are not that amazing (1 - 950 and I am 38) but I think they are low enough not to feel that I have to take further action. Also my nuchal was small 1.2 (which I know they take into account) so am trying to focus on that!

All the best with your result Aufaniae - I hope they hurry up for you and that all is well.

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 16:03:10

1 in 950 is amazing for our age itsaruddygame, you should be very pleased with yourself and your little bump smile

The average risk at 40 is 1 in 100 I think.

Went to see introduce myself to my local midwife this afternoon. She was nice smile

Steph you were right, she confirmed that if there is a problem I can expect to hear within 4-5 working days. Otherwise it's a letter in 2-3 weeks. But she gave me the details of the person to bug if I haven't heard anything in a week, and feel I need to know, so I'm pleased with that. Will stop going on about it now!

BonaDea Wed 03-Oct-12 17:12:04

My hospital do 1-2 working days if there is a problem and 4-5 working days if not. Starting to feel quite lucky about that.

I do think it's appalling to keep people waiting longer. The tests are quick to do, so presumably it's the admin that takes the time?

somewherebecomingrain Wed 03-Oct-12 17:20:03

aufaniae you're not going on about it at all - that's what these threads are for.
well done itsaruddygame those are great result.
any news from usernamegoeshere?
hi mama hope you are bearing up.

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 17:32:04

My old hospital did that too. I suspect the wait here is because they don't do the testing here.

When I had DS, the inner-city hospital we were at was a large teaching hospital and they got the results from their own labs onsite.

For the one I'm at now, they need to send the results off to London, and then wait for them to come back, so it takes more time.

magictorch Wed 03-Oct-12 17:46:51

Hello, haven't been on for a while and it's great to see all your news.

Mama amazing news for you, what a lovely surprise for your daughter.

Ollibobs I had my scan today and they changed my dates too, even though I'm IVF.

Really noticed the difference being back in NHS care today after having had private IVF. Completely unfriendly and joyless in scanning department almost to the point of rudeness. Still got a great pic of baby and all is well, which is the main thing. Saw little hands and feet and it was wonderful as I'd convinced myself if had all gone wrong, even though 8 week scan was perfect.

They said I couldn't have nuchal scan as midwife had put that I'd declined it. I hadn't, what I'd said was that we didn't want an amniocentesis. Never mind, what will be will be I guess.

Very jealous of those if you feeling movement already and salivating at thought of baked Camembert. I shall hotfoot if to Sainsbury''s with glee!

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 17:52:03

Thanks Somewherebecomingrain smile

I'm coming to squat your due date btw - SneezySnatcher and EssexWelsh you too!

They changed my EDD at the scan.


JaquelineHyde Wed 03-Oct-12 17:57:37

Hello everyone,

How are you all? Mama so glad to hear you are home, take things easy though.

Aufaniae try not to worry too much about the tests, I'm sure everything will be fine.

I have my scan tomorrow and I'm really scared about it. I'm not feeling pg at all anymore and have had very painful cramping on and off for a week now sad No bleeding which is a good thing but I'm feeling quite anxious.

Aufaniae can I ask if you needed a full bladder for your scan? Everything appears to have changed since my last baby and I've been told that some hospitals like you to have a full bladder and others don't confused

JaquelineHyde Wed 03-Oct-12 17:58:18

Ooop I forgot...


Ollibobs Wed 03-Oct-12 18:22:07

Hallelujah! I've got my scan date!

So, I didn't sleep all night as I was so geared up for a day of relentless arguing about scan appointment. While it wasn't exactly easy, we got there in the end. Called the ultrasound department and after several hours of going back and forth, we settled on a next Friday. I will be 12+2, so that works for me.

The problem was exacerbated by the EDD debate as they said I must go by LMP (which would have put me further along) but as I'd had an NHS scan at seven weeks, the sonographer went with those dates (the IVF dates - ahem)

So it's all sorted. Thanks everyone for the support, it made me feel more confident knowing I was not being unreasonable!

Roll on October 12th! grin

usernamegoeshere Wed 03-Oct-12 18:22:17

So apparently the pregnancy isn't a figment of my imagination and there is a very definite baby looking thing in there! Was fast asleep in a ball so I had to be painfully poked & prodded for a while but once it was awake started doing lil starjumps & bouncing around.

157bpm, so according to the old wives should be a girl, though my friend thought it looked "boyish"

I hope your scan goes well tomorrow Jaqueline I don't feel pregnant anymore either, I think its quite normal.

Aufaniae, I hope you get your results back soon so can have mind at rest again, must be horrible to be so worried, although I think no news is usually supposed to be a good thing.

My dates were almost correct, am 12+2.

Ollibobs Wed 03-Oct-12 18:27:44

magictorch I've also found it quite the contrast going from the IVF clinic to the NHS ante-natal care. After months of such close monitoring, this whole not seeing anyone until 11/12 weeks has been a shock. My clinic did warn me of that though...

Although, saying that, the women at the EPU were really lovely.

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 18:36:22

hiya Jaqueline. Not sure if I can answer that reliably, but I'll try!

I asked if I'd need to have a full bladder as I had to call them anyway (I had to phone the day before to ask what time as I'd totally forgotten blush)

I was told that some sonographers like you to have a full bladder, some don't (I always thought it was down to the type of scan machine, not the sonographer - but perhaps I'm wrong hmm) So, she said to turn up with a full bladder but maybe go to the loo if the sonographer asked me too.

I absently mindedly went to the toilet not very long before we were dure to leave for the scan. So I downed loads of water, hoping to refill my bladder! When I got there I don't think much of it had got to my bladder.

The sonographer didn't mention bladders at all. About 10 minutes after the scan I was desperate for a pee!

We got seen really quickly. Worth mentioning perhaps the form they give you with scan results e.g. nuchal measurement & length of baby, they take off you a few minutes later when they take blood (they get sent off together) so if you want to read it, do it there and then. I would have studied it harder (or perhaps taken a pic) if I'd realised it was about to disappear!

Good luck, I hope all goes well smile

kellestar Wed 03-Oct-12 19:10:38

jaqueline it's best to go with a full bladder, it can help lift the baby up to make the scan easier, I carry a bit of flab cuddle down there.

They may ask you to release a bit of your bladder [it is agony to stop mid pee if your bladder is busting] as it can also pin the baby in one position and not allow them to get into a better position for the nuchal check.

I agree with taking a note of the results quickly before they go out your hands.

Our hospital text you the results! last time they called you if there was high risk and sent you a letter in the post a couple of weeks later if you were low risk. Now it's 2-3 days for high risk, a week for low risk.

Teapig Wed 03-Oct-12 19:22:21

Sneezy, hallelujah for your baked camembert discovery! Had a shit day at work so I will be gorging on bubbling liquid cheese tonight.

Mama so pleased your out of hospital! I bet your family are thrilled. Take it easy x

Yay for the great scan news! username I'm not feeling pg at the moment so your experience gives me hope my scan reveal a real little baby and not one made of cake and wotsits.

7 days (or 168 hours) to go until my scan, not that I'm counting.

Teapig Wed 03-Oct-12 19:28:03

username what does 157bpm mean? Haven't heard of that old wives' tail.

usernamegoeshere Wed 03-Oct-12 19:30:38

Its the heart rate. Apparently over under 140 bpm is a boy & over is a girl, but in fairness the heart rate generally matches dates rather than the sex, I'm all about those old wives though.

Dandelion75 Wed 03-Oct-12 19:42:39

Yay - more great scan news! So lovely to hear!

So glad your scan sorted ollibobs - what a massive relief! I completely agree with you and magictorch - going from IVF in a private clinic to NHS care is a real shock to the system. I've got used to getting (and to be fair, paying a fortune for wink) endless appointments and loads of support on the end of the phone to answer every tiny question you might have, and squeals of joy from the nurses when i got a BFP! Sonographer yesterday did seem pretty disinterested - but to be fair, if she came to see me at my work I might well seem exactly the same!

Thanks for the replies re changes in EDD after IVF. I will talk to my MW about it but the surly sonographer didn't even mention at the scan that she had changed my EDD and I just noticed it afterwards on my notes! I think I will stick to my MW date for my own plans, mat leave etc

jacqueline - I was told you needed a full bladder, and the same was true of all external scans throughout my IVF. My IVF clinic told me that the LO is sat behind the bladder and they get a clearer picture through liquid - so a full bladder is best.

My god, I NEED some Camembert gaving read this thread. No chance to get any tonight, but tomorrow will be Camembert night in the dandelion household! Thanks for the discovery sneezy - you have made my day grin

JaquelineHyde Wed 03-Oct-12 19:55:38

Thank you everyone for the advice, full bladder it is then.

I shall remember to have a look at the notes before I do bloods but I have an appointment with my consultant as well straight after the scan so I shall ask for clarity if I'm not sure.

I've lost 6lb since my booking in appointment so I'm hoping this impresses my consultant and he backs off lecturing me on a healthy diet smile

Bambino29 Wed 03-Oct-12 20:25:50

Ollibobs - great news! That's the day after my scan (I'll also be 12 + 2 for mine). Massively exciting. Know so many people who have had to fight for prompt pre-natal care here. Glad you rang them.

aufaniae Wed 03-Oct-12 20:37:00

At my old hospital they told me I didn't need to have a full bladder as they had new equipment which didn't require it.

Which is why I was surprised when they told me at my current hospital that it depends on the sonographer, as I thought it depended on the age of the technology.

One of these professionals has told me a story which isn't quite right. No idea which one though!

Ollibobs Wed 03-Oct-12 20:46:25

Just looked at my scan booklet and it says "a full bladder is not required as an internal scan can be offered for a clearer image".

I figure, when in doubt, go with a full bladder as you can always wee. It's more difficult to have to try to fill it up on demand. wink

HaveALittleFaith Wed 03-Oct-12 20:58:01

My scan letter says to drink 1.5 pints of water at least an hour before the appointment, presumably so your bladder is full enough.

Mama Wonderful to hear you're home! smile

Congratulations to all with good scan news. aufainie hope you hear soon.

CrackleMauve Wed 03-Oct-12 21:46:03

Congratulations to everyone with successful scans and hooray for Mama coming home. Will be keeping everything crossed that you get that baby as cooked as possible before it arrives.

Not much to report here. 14 weeks now, still sick, not as tired as before though. Occasionally I have thought I can maybe feel movement but I think it's mostly wind and stretching!

bunnygirl80 Wed 03-Oct-12 23:54:19

shomes I've been feeling movement since I hit 13 weeks. I felt DS pretty early on too, and that was with an anterior placenta. Leaves me feeling slightly worried as to how much of a battering I'm going to take this time without the placenta in front to protect me grin

I was given very specific instructions re full bladder for my scan. I was told to empty my bladder one hour before, then drink 500ml of non-fizzy fluid. I think it just lifts the baby up a bit so they can get a really clear view. My obstetrician scans me at every antenatal appointment, and she doesn't require a full bladder, but she only checks baby's heart rate and size, rather than taking detailed measurements.

Congrats on getting home mama. Hope your dd was delighted to see you

Missmuffet28 Thu 04-Oct-12 08:05:49

Argh sneezed in bed this morning and it felt like someone stabbed me in the abdomen! What was that about?! So painful! I'm gonna be frightened to sneeze again now!

Congrats to all that had great scans yesterday and good luck to anyone having one today
27hrs until mine eeek!!! I'm a bag of nerves already!

somewherebecomingrain Thu 04-Oct-12 08:39:48

great news usernamegoeshere so pleased.
i am feeling sick again so slightly envy of those having less symptoms.

13 w

Mama1980 Thu 04-Oct-12 08:50:47

Morning all. Writing this from my sofa/bed grin how is everyone? Good luck for anyone who has a scan.
Dd and ds were thrilled, dd bless her heart at the very cool of age of 14 started sobbing as soon as she saw me. My brother s and sister are taking it in turns stopping by so I'm in strict orders not to move. The dog has taken up position by my feet and isn't moving.....wow it's good to be home. The nurse is coming by later to do a quick bp check then its back to the hospital next Wednesday for another scan. I'm off now to play with ds and his Lego grin

JaquelineHyde Thu 04-Oct-12 09:49:31

Aaaah Mama that sounds wonderful...you just made me cry, your daughter sobbing is what really broke me grin So glad you are home and being looked after.

4hrs until my scan and I am so, so scared. I'm really looking forward to being able to be excited about being pg and tell everyone etc.

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 12:50:23

Mama lovely to hear you're home smile

jaqueline keeping my fingers crossed for you. Have a lovely time seeing your baby smile

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 13:03:05

Got my results, they rang today. The risk is 1 in 120. The hormone which concerned them is low Papp-A. (0.47).

It's considered high risk, but nowhere near as high as I had been worrying about (I was bracing myself for something like 1 in 5) seeing as last time round the risk was 1:17. 

They say the risk of CVS is 1 in 100 miscarry. However last time I had a CVS and I remember the consultant who performed it said the risk was actually much lower,like 1:200 and I think she implied it depends on the skill of the person doing it, so don't know what to believe. She was very experienced, maybe she was just trying to reassure me?

Last time the decision to have a CVS was easy given the high odds. This time not so easy, it's a horrible game of numbers.

I asked if the sonographer had seen a nasal bone, and the midwife said she hadn't said either way on the notes. She's going to book me in for a scan for the nasal bone and other indicators of chromosomal abnormalities in the next couple of days, with a consultant, so i'm pleased about that, as it'll give us more info.

birdbrain17 Thu 04-Oct-12 13:04:36

Hi so nice to hear all the great news from everyone, I've just been lurking around reading but not had much to add. I need some reassurance though at the moment, I went to the toilet before and to my absolute shock and horror there was blood on the toilet paper, it was a bright red colour and after a bit of investigation (not trying to be too visual here) I'm pretty sure it was from the back not the front. I haven't had any cramping (I think what I have is just stretching pains) but Dr. Google wasn't very helpful couldn't get a clear answer has anyone else had this?should I be on the way to the Dr or Hospital I don't want to worry my DH or Mum by asking so please help me quickly!!!!

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 13:11:56

Do you mean it's coming from you bum?

Aren't piles more common in pregnancy, do they bleed?

I'm stabbing in the dark mind. If it is you bum, I reckon calling NHS direct or your own dr would be a good idea, just to be on the safe side, although it could well be nothing serious.

If I've misunderstood and it's not your bum, I reckon you should ring your midwife, or the team at the hospital, again to be on the safe side.

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 13:12:28

*your, not you!

Bumpincharge Thu 04-Oct-12 13:12:31

Hi birdbrain,
I've had bleeding and spotting from the front for most of the pregnancy so far, but no cramping. The midwife advised that I might be one of those who get's this, but to call if I need.
Bleeding from the back is more likely from a small tear that can happen after a stubborn movement - liquid and fibre are the best ways to prevent this.

If you are worried give your midwife a call and have a chat.

Good luck


hi birdbrain sorry to hear you had some bleeding. i'd give your midwife a call or ring gp ad ask for a callback. you need a professional opinion.

i really hope it's nothing serious. take care of you and keep us posted. hugs.

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 13:21:59

Got another scan on Monday. They're going to check for nasal bone, look at the heart and also something like the tricuspid (my predictive spelling knows the word so I think that must be right!)

HaveALittleFaith Thu 04-Oct-12 13:45:52

birdbrain I've had that twice. Definitely rear end and I think it was because I'd been very constipated. The two episodes were separate occasions and it settled down when I got on top of my constipation - likely causes are either piles or a small anal fissure. I would just talk to your midwife for reassurance but it should settle down.

aufaniae I hope Monday clears everything up for you.

Only 13 days til my scan now!


trying2bpos Thu 04-Oct-12 13:49:48

Hi everyone, not made it on for a while as been a hectic week.
After my flu jab on monday spent afternoon in A&E with DS due to a mystery 'non-blanching' rash on his hand. 3 doctors stripping him and taking temp etc later I got them to let me go home. Still none the wiser but has not bothered him in the slightest. I was worried we end up catching something more serious in the hospital tbh hmm.

Congrats to everyone on their great scan news and good luck to all of you who have them coming up exciting times.

mama thrilled to hear you're home, you've coped amazingly well everything crossed for you now.

aufaniae that is really tough as so close to the cut off for being low risk. I think the person who did your CVS last time is right from what I've heard it is worth asking what the hospitals stats are on mc following CVS. I believe the tricuspid is a valve in the heart. FX for Mon, keep us posted how far along will you be then? Will they do the NT again?

I gave in and rang the MW yesterday for my Downs screening results as although I figured no news is good news I was also a bit worried that I'd just been forgotten especially as my MW only works part-time. It's come back low risk which is a massive relief but I've not been given any levels of anything. I assume if any of the hormones were out either way they'd have let me know?
Got home to the letter on the mat but didn't say anything other than low risk and reiterating that it is only risk and not definitive!

birdbrain I also think you should get the bleeding checked out but in my experience MC has always come with cramping so I hope that is somewhat reassuring. Sorry I can't remember but have you had your scan yet?

angeltattoo Thu 04-Oct-12 13:52:59

Hi all,

Will catch up later but just wanted to say my scan was amazing, we got a wave and a back flip!

Nuchal was 1.4, so am relieved. Also brought me forward, so EDD now 12th!

12 + 6!

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 13:58:10

trying I'll be 13+4 on Monday. They didn't mention measuring the nuchal again, but I'll ask them if they will, thanks for that, I wouldn't have thought of it I don't think.

The cut off for low risk is 150, so it's on the lower-end of high-risk. Certainly lower risk than I'd been imagining anyway.

I keep feeling a funny pain / discomfort inside, as if the baby has enormous nails which it's digging in / running down my insides! (Of course it hasn't in reality!)

Has anyone else felt this?

edinfirst Thu 04-Oct-12 14:02:44

birdbrain I'd say piles too, but if you are concerned deffo call the midwife-one thing I've learned from MN threads is that no matter how much you worry about asking, MWs would always rather you did and never think it was a stupid question as they understand how anxious a time this can be.

I had my scan this morning too and all good-two arms, two (long!) legs and a tiny heartbeat, what more could I ask for at this stage. To add to the full/empty bladder debate, I had drunk just over the 1l recommended and was busting by the time I got there. Jokingly mentioned it to the sonographer who did a first scan then sent me away to empty it-while I was away she told DH it was "astronomically full"!?! After that she scanned a bit more and to the untrained eye there was no difference, she also took some of the measurements then so it must have been ok for her too. Anyway, moral of the story is that if you have any distance to travel to your scan I'd recommend drinking on the way there rather than having it all at home then being uncomfy-I wasn't the only one in the waiting room who was looking longingly at the toilets!

Cadmum Thu 04-Oct-12 14:13:00

aufaniae I am sorry that your results are worrying. 1 in 120 is much better than 1 in 17... What a relief that you are being offered another scan to look for other soft markers. Forgive me for having missed this part but may I ask the results of your CVS last time?

birdbrain17 Thu 04-Oct-12 14:20:19

Thanks everyone I've been trying to get through to the midwife for reassurance but she's busy with someone so will call me back. trying I have had my scan and all looked fine then. I had just been to the toilet when I saw the blood, I think I'm slightly constipated so just made me bleed a bit....
I guess everything is more worrying first time round!

Cadmum Thu 04-Oct-12 14:21:27

Nuchal translucency measurements are reliably measured up to 13 weeks + 6 days so maybe it is worth asking to have it done again?

BonaDea Thu 04-Oct-12 14:29:28

aufaniae - it is a very tough decision and perhaps some of the decision making depends on what you might do if you get a bad CVS result. If you would carry on with the pregnancy in any event, perhaps not worth it.

However, 1:120 is still pretty low risk although and as someone once mentioned to me, imagine a large room with 120 cots in it - only one of those babies would be affected. It starts to sounds much lower risk, well under 1% chance (and well over 99% chance that you are not affected).

Hopefully the scan on Monday will clear things up for you.

LoobyLou33 Thu 04-Oct-12 14:52:01

Sorry this is a me post...

I'm a little bit confused about the combined test - do they have to take a separate set of bloods from the first set they take?

Today I went to the MW for my first blood test, and ended up going to hospital because she didn't have any luck. Eugh. Remember why I hate blood tests - awkward veins! Was relieved it went OK and I wasn't sick.

Anyway, then I phoned to try and change my scan time and they said something about needing to be able to take more blood for the combined test. I quickly said I'd ditch the nuchal and blood test in that case, after today's palava!

Rather annoyed though - seems the fact that my booking was pretty late has resulted in delaying the scan, as they couldn't find a single alternative appointment next week (I'm working on Friday afternoon when it was scheduled), so it'll be Tues 16th when I'll be almost 14 weeks. I really want to hear a heartbeat and see a bubba now!

Makes me wonder where I'd be if I hadn't relentlessly chased up the midwife. Honestly - if my surgery's MW is on holiday, you'd expect them to pass on cases to another MW in the team wouldn't you?!

12 weeks (I'm 35, for the stats!)

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 14:58:10

cadmum, as DP reminded me yesterday while looking at DS, the outcome was good last time. The CVS result was clear and we have a lovely little boy.

I know this is a contentious issue and some people may think badly of me, but if the result was bad, I would consider termination as an option. It would be something DP and I would have to think very carefully about before making a decision. I don't know what we'd choose as we haven't had to go down that road. However, I'm certainly not of the opinion that I would carry on with the pregnancy in any event.

I'm genuinely sorry if that offends people, I really don't mean to, and I know it's such a difficult and sensitive subject. However I've decided not to hide the fact that we'd consider a termination as I feel it shouldn't be brushed under the carpet - many people must have to go through horrible decisions like that.

I suspect the low Papp-A may be to do with the notch on the blood flow on my artery I had last time, rather than a chromosomal abnormality, and I want to investigate this option also, the hospital aresn't offering me a Doppler scan atm, but I'm going to bring it up with the consultant and see what they say.

I actually feel less worried than I did before the results as I was expecting worse news. I now feel I'm on a fact-finding mission, these next few days, and we're not going to evern try to make any decisions at all until after the scan.

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 15:00:26

* LoobyLou33* they take new bloods after the scan.

Are you deciding not to have the combined test?

Cadmum Thu 04-Oct-12 15:01:13

LoobyLou In my experience, they do need to draw more blood for the nuchal test. You could go for the scan and then decide to forgo the blood work if you are satisfied by the scan. No tests are mandatory.

It sounds as though you are having a rough time with everything antenatal. Maybe it is because you will have an effortless birth in exchange?

Cadmum Thu 04-Oct-12 15:08:21

aufaniae it sounds like you are on the right track with another scan. Fact finding is best when you have facts. I am slightly surprised that they did not check for soft markers at your first scan. I have never had that experience and I have never had a scare like you have.

I am glad you feel reassured. Here (in Thailand) I was told that anything less than 1 in 200 is considered high risk. I wonder if that is because patients pay for testing here?

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 15:19:51

Cadmum "Fact finding is best when you have facts." Indeed!

The sonographer was cagey (no idea if I should be paranoid about that or if she's like that with everyone!). I told her my concerns but she just said we'd have to wait for the results.

Very different experience to my first scan with DS (different hospital) where they volunteered the information that they could see the nasal bone, and that the nuchal measurement was good, without me asking them.

The sonographer on Monday will be a consultant, and the midwife gave me the impression she would be happy to answer lots of quesitons and go over everything in some detail with me, so I hope that's true.

I expect you're right about Thailand <cynical> wink. My American friends have also had a very different experience (more scans & appointments) because, we suspect, it's a paid-for service.

kellestar Thu 04-Oct-12 15:33:17

LoobyLou my MW at my booking in had real issues drawing blood from me and tried both inner elbows, wrists and the back of each hand and eventually drew blood from the back of my right hand, I was bruised for 2 weeks. I usually ask to see the phlebotomist at the GP's rather than the MW as they listen when I say fine needles and that my veins jump.

I had a check up at the AN clinic last week, a nurse take the bloods, fine needle, made the insert quick and caught the vein first time. It was a relief to have them taken so easily. You can ask for bloods to be referred to the phlebotomist to take them instead.

trying2bpos Thu 04-Oct-12 15:34:04

Just to add my bit to the full bladder comments, I read a pint is all that's needed (~1/2 litre) but I really think it depends upon your bladder (you know it best). For all of my scans of which over the years there have been a few I never drink this at home as I just need to go to the loo as soon as I get to the hospital and I usually drink a couple of the little cups full of water (ones they provide in the hospital by watercooler) or a small bottle of water and have never had a problem, if you know you won't have a problem holding a full bladder then go for it but you deffo don't need to drink a litre that is just torture and remember they are going to be pressing on there too with the probe, ouch ouch ouch!

loobylou the bloods need to be taken same day as the NT. It's always puzzled me that some women have bloods done at the booking appt taken by the MW, I never have and wondered why, I think it depends upon where you live. It seems a bit daft to have to have more done at the antenatal/scan appt (esp if you have poor veins), why not just get them done all together which is what they do here I guess it may save time at the hospital. Having said that I had to have extra taken as I have hypothroidism and it literally took 2min to take all of them. I feel for you but not sure you should rule out combined test (if you wanted it) just because of the extra bloods? Remember the people at the hospital who take your bloods will be doing it all day every day and in my experience (I have very small veins that get even smaller at the sight of a needle!) are really quick and very good.

cadmum when I was pg with my son about 2y ago it was 1:200 too! So I think it has only just changed to less than 150 recently.

aufanaie I admire your honesty and courage. I'm sure you will do what is right for you and your family if it comes to it.

itsaruddygame Thu 04-Oct-12 15:53:04

Congrats on all the good scan news.

Good luck with the scan Aufanaie I really hope that they are able to offer some reassurance. I think it is a tough choice with the CVS and it is hard to say what I would do with those odds - it is a really tough call. Hopefully the scan will help make it a bit easier to decide and the input from the consultant should be useful.

I had a day yesterday where I think I could feel some movement - almost a popping sensations and a bit of discomfort from time to time. I guess it is everything down there stretching. I have to say that I can't wait to have a bump - I just look like I have eaten too many pies at the momen! smile

14 weeks and 1 day!

BonaDea Thu 04-Oct-12 17:15:21

itsaruddy am trying to 'listen' for movement but haven't truthfully detected anything yet. can't wait til it starts though. I have been feeling a little 'nervous' from time to time like i have butterflies in my stomach, but not sure that is a typical movement feeling and so will assume it's not movement!

snap - desperate to have a proper bump too - definitely look like i've been eating waaaay to many pies here smile

14 +1

somewherebecomingrain Thu 04-Oct-12 17:16:39

hey aufaniae that is good news, it is streets away from 1 in 17, and must be a relief. I am crossing fingers and toes for you that you get further good news on Monday.


HiHowAreYou Thu 04-Oct-12 18:00:39

Just briefly checking in again to say hello.

Some of you have been having such a rollercoaster of events!

Good to see so many nice scan stories and pleased to read that everyone who was in hospital is back home again. smile

Oh, and welcome to the new people!

birdbrain17 Thu 04-Oct-12 19:07:24

Just to update I spoke to the midwife and she said bleeding from your bottom is quite normal caused by constipation and nothing to worry about! Such a relief I can't even describe my feelings when I saw blood.
About having a bump versus fat I have a little bump already (although my tummy was definitely never flat) and my MIL said to me today "it's funny how your getting big so quickly" I don't know whether I should be insulted or not, my SIL is also PG but she's 5 months so has a nice proper bump already

shomes Thu 04-Oct-12 20:41:12

Hello all
Starting to worry when the blood results from unchallenged scan will come back, had scan last Friday so I'm assuming I would have heard if anything serious, was 13 weeks at scan and had nt at 2.3 so hoping all is normal. Guess just paranoid after mc/blighted ovum in jan. still can't quite believe there is a baby in there!

Now onto get rid of this stinky cold and I may feel better.

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 22:15:23

birdbrain glad you're feeling reassured smile

shomes why not ring your midwife / the midwife team at the hospital if the wait is doing your head in. I did and they were really nice to me and gave me the name of the results coordinator to harrass call if the wait got too much. (She beat me to it in the end as my results were not the best.)

MrsSimkins Thu 04-Oct-12 22:21:57

Hey Ladies,
Just had my downs risk results through (by poat a week after scan) and I'm very lucky that we are 1 in 2603! Though DH looked dissapointed and said he'd hoped we'd be 1 in 100,000 - bless his optomism.
Aufaniae - I totally admire your honesty on a subject many would hide away from saying how they really feel. Good luck with whatever tests come next and fingers crossed things turned out well.
Congrats on all the lovely scan news everyone it really does put a smile on my face reading these every day. I feel like times dragging again now as I can't wait to see LO again at 20 weeks!


aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 22:31:52

somewherebecomingrain yes it is a relief compared to what I was bracing myself for smile I'm much less worried than I was before I got the result.

I'm leaning towards suspecting it's probably the same thing as last time (the notch on the bloodflow from the artery) as they sent me for a doppler after the CVS came back clear with DS. It was because of the hormone being low, it must have been Papp-A last time too after all, although I will see if I can check. Frustratingly no one I've spoken to seems to recognise my description of being offered an early doppler and being prescribed low-dose aspirin. The best I've had is the midwife today saying "yes, we do them at 24 weeks"

If this is the same problem again, I want to start taking low-dose aspirin as soon as I need to, as the risks IIRC are a small baby or failing placenta (leading to mc in the 2nd / 3rd trimester). Google tells me that other risks include thrombosis and pre-eclampsia (aspirin would help with the first but not the second). If there's a real chance of IUGR (poor growth) I don't want to wait till 24 weeks if there's something I can do about it now. I took low-dose aspirin last time and the result was a lovely healthy baby, so you can see why I'm tempted to take it again!

I'm going to talk to the consultant on Monday about it. If they don't agree to try to check if there's a notch again, then I'm going to change my question to "is there any reason why I shouldn't just take low-dose aspirin anyway?"

EssexWelsh Thu 04-Oct-12 22:36:37

Marking my place while I catch up! Latest I've been up for a week compared to my normal 7.30 bed time!!

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 22:47:21

MrsSimkins great result smile

Thanks to you and everyone else for the kind words.

Right, am going to stop going on about myself (sorry!) and go and do something more useful instead ...

BonaDea the first time round, I found when the movements started they were a bit like like butterflies smile Or kind of like a little bit of wind - tiny "flips", sort-of (hope that makes some kind of sense!)

aufaniae Thu 04-Oct-12 22:49:29

*I should have said aspirin might help with the first (thrombosis) but I don't know about the other (pre-eclampsia)

(Just in case I'm spreading mis-information there blush)

JaquelineHyde Thu 04-Oct-12 23:38:34

Evening ladies, had my scan and unfortunately it's not all plain sailing for me.

Firstly they couldn't get a good enough normal scan so had to go internal, not nice but I'm fine with it.

Then the sonographer said that the baby wasn't staying still enough in the right position for her to get the measurement at the back of the neck sad she said everything else looked ok the baby had grown ok and that was that.

However, I then had my consultant appointment and he pointed out that there were a few issues with the scan firstly there is a cyst on the umbilical cord. He said that he had had a good look and he was happy that all of the needed vessels etc had been established so it wasn't an immediate risk but we would have another look at the next scan.

He then said the baby was showing an enlarged bowel. He did explain this could just be because the baby needed to wee but again this would be looked at in a further scan incase there are complications.

He then explained because they couldn't get the nuchal measurement I could have a quad test instead which is a straight blood test and very accurate. However, they only do this between 14-18 weeks (ish) as any earlier is pointless as the results are so inaccurate.

We discussed problems in my previousl pg and he has decided we will do lab tests on my week every month from 20weeks and I will have further scans at 20 weeks, 28 weeks, 32 weeks and 36 weeks.

He also said not to be suprised if I get a letter in 2 weeks asking me to come for another immediate scan to check on the abnormalities they found. He said this could happen as they have a fortnightly team meeting and it may be decided at that to scan me earlier that 20 weeks.

I'm a bit fed up. Very happy that the baby is growing well and over the moon that my consultant is quite possibly the nicest man on earth but I just wanted a straight forward, boring pg.

I've come to terms with not having a downs risk result and may not even bother getting the blood test as thinking about it it makes no fucking difference to me any way. I wouldn't change anything, I would have the baby and love the baby full stop. Also I don't want to ruin my pg by having a high risk, worrying sick about it and all for nothing because most high risks are inaccurate.

The rest I'm worried about and feeling horrible for. Sorry to bring the mood of the thread down sad

edinfirst Fri 05-Oct-12 00:06:58

Jacqueline didn't want to read and run.

Really sorry to hear that today hasn't been easy for you. I can't offer any advice or experience on the medical side, I hope others can. It sounds like your situation is similar to many others though, in that the uncertainty is the really difficult thing. I know that it's sooooo much easier said than done, but try to hold onto the fact that there is still every chance all the things you could worry about will turn out fine in the end. It sounds like your consultant is terrific and you are going to get fantastic care, and that's important too. I will have everything crossed for you over the next few weeks-we're all here for you so keep us informed (and rant/moan anytime - as a colleague of mine said today, some days you just want to kick something, and it seems to me this is a great place for that)

bunnygirl80 Fri 05-Oct-12 04:00:14

jaqueline sorry your scan has left you more worries than answers. It must be hard when they give you a list of things which could be problems, but the could also be completely fine. Hopefully you'll get another scan soon to help shed some light on things

aufaniae hope your next scan makes your decision about cvs a bit easier. Re the low dose aspirin, if I were you I might be inclined to just take it anyway. Also, one of the ladies from my antenatal thread with DS is pg with her DC2 and she's been advised to take low dose aspirin this time as she developed preeclampsia in her first pg, so I assume it may lower the risk.

shomes Fri 05-Oct-12 07:22:39

jacqueline really sorry to hear about your dificult time at your scan, i was petrified they would find something at mine and had totally convinced myself that i wasn't really pregnant at all. I think its oyur body and minds way of coping after either loss or stress in previous pregnancies. I'm keeping all fingers and toes crossed for you for next time.

I will try and wait it out til next week for blood results, just can't wait til end of oct when we can hopefully hear the heartbeat.