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Due December 2012 - 3rd trimester here we come

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gilsbubbles Mon 10-Sep-12 15:33:07

running out of space as fast as ever... here's a new link

MyDaydream Mon 10-Sep-12 15:56:01

ellie it's your birthday money spend it how you want! I'm asking for a change bag, it's the only baby related item I'm asking for. Although there's every chance baby could come on my birthday, so could still get a baby present!
I got an interview for a job I applied for a month ago! I'm so confused by it now, since a month ago I could still hide the pregnancy I'm now not even sure I have anything interviewy to wear that fits. I'd kinda got into my head that I wasn't going to work between now and baby and I don't know if they'll consider me, or how much I care about it. It would be nice to have some spare cash coming in, my brain can't pinpoint one thing to focus on. I only applied for it to make me feel less guilty about quitting my last job, even though I did that to avoid a disciplinary.

pmgkt I can't believe you've finished! I haven't even started, but have been writing lists!

Pidj I have nowhere near enough for a table, I think I will have to just give them to the clothes bank, it doesn't seem as personal though!

Hope your pain goes soon Stacey I definitely reckon it was all that gardening.

I'm going to get DD a Baby Annabell Boy for Christmas I think, will be nice for her to have her own baby boy to play with! Might add a bit to her Happyand collection too. DP won't be getting anything for his birthday (18th Dec) or Christmas, apart from a son!

ellie we won't get a free place for DD until September next year, but once DC2 is here we will get tax credits again and that will cover her for two mornings a week.

emilyeggs Mon 10-Sep-12 16:19:21

Just marking my spot smile

Barbeasty Mon 10-Sep-12 16:33:01

Daydream why not just go and play it by ear. It's good practice if you decide to go back later, and even if you didn't get/ take it they might keep you in mind for future when you are looking for something.

But I am a serial new job applicant, so I would say that.

HoneyMum21 Mon 10-Sep-12 16:43:24

Checking in on the new thread. So so so tired, was up coughing most of the night but the woman in boots looked very dubious about giving me any kind of medicine. What is ok to have while pregnant?

utopian99 Mon 10-Sep-12 16:50:04

daydream may I ask if you ever thought your employer was deliberately trying to get you to resign because of your pregnancy? Tell me to naff off if that's being nosy, but I suspect it's at the root of what my employer is doing right now and I have genuinely no idea what I could have done apart from getting pregnant, which is creating a bit of stress which can't be great for me or Crumb right now.

hello <waves all around> just checking in, i'm quietly keeping up with everyone's progress but head's too full of other things.
bidding on a wreck this week, fx we get it so we don't have to live on a busy main road for too much longer once LO is out and about

kate2boysandabump Mon 10-Sep-12 17:00:21

Wow! What a busy weekend! The bunks arrived in the week and we planned to make them at the weekend with the intention of ds2 moving in in his own time. However, as dh was putting ds2's washing away, the wardrobe fell apart on him shock So we had to move ds2 in with ds1 this weekend. It was such hard work, building new furniture and moving all his stuff in and we're still not done, ds2's room still has loads of stuff in it, but I did a load more today and it looks a lot better. We need to take out the old furniture and then we have the beginning of a nursery smile I went to bed at half eight last night and fell asleep about 10 minutes later blush

I had appointments at 6 weeks for booking in, 16 weeks, 18 weeks for a home visit, 21 weeks, then this week at 26 weeks, then 30, 34, 36, 38 40 and 41 weeks, although I'm hoping to miss the last 2 grin My midwife handed over my Mat B1 without me asking too.

Pidj Your DN sounds so sweet and there are moments like this as a mom too. I was talking with the ds's about what they thought the baby would be and they're sure it's a boy because they are (good guess boys!) when ds1 pipes up 'you should have married Henry VIII because you've had sons. You would have been a good queen mom' grin

ellie Happy Birthday to you and your dd, have fun spending your voucher.

pmgkt I can't believe you've finished your Christmas shopping shock I've started and I thought that made me super organised, I can see that I was wrong.

minipie Mon 10-Sep-12 17:03:15

Just marking my place before I lose track of this one as well! You ladies chat a lot grin

People keep telling me how huge I am and being surprised I'm not due sooner - I didn't think I'd mind but actually I do, I feel like it's a judgment on my stomach muscles or something! Got asked if I was having twins last week... hmm. I have a growth scan on Thursday, ironically it's to check for slow growth - doesn't seem to be an issue judging by the size of my bump!

Sorry to hear of those with aches and pains and coughs and crappy sleep. Hope this isn't a sign of worse to come... I have been getting a bit of stabby rib pain and have now got a back twinge too so may be joining you on the "old crone" sofa.

utopian sad about your job, what are they doing? They are on very very thin ice if it really is preg related.

Oh also I got more scan appointments though today so 28, 32, 34 & 36 eek! Makes it seems like it's going to go really quickly!

FriendofDorothy Mon 10-Sep-12 17:23:53

Marking my place smile

MyDaydream Mon 10-Sep-12 17:25:49

barbeasty it's a company I used to work summer temp at when I was younger so know they're super flexible and it's quite casual when students are concerned. It'd really help us out though if I got it just in terms of giving us a little breathing space before baby comes.
utopian I do think that, I started with them when I was nearly 12 weeks but wasn't pregnant at interview. I was signed off with stress but offered no help when all I needed was a couple of extra weeks training that they had available to catch up from some pregnancy related absence I had. Id have gone back and stuck it out but they wanted to do me for gross misconduct for being off!
I hope you can stick it out with your employer, I felt a bit lost in my situation and had to go through the motions on spur of the moment when I wasn't in the best place. If id had longer to prepare I'd have faced them.
prunella good luck on getting your wreck. Id love to do that one day.
spotty I was thinking the same the other day, I have appointments at least every 3 weeks now. I'm getting a little bit scared if I think about it too much!
My bed arrived today I no longer have a dining room because it's so huge. I'm starting to doubt our super king decision!

ellliebelle Mon 10-Sep-12 17:28:34

Just wanted to mark my place.

Would love a new hobby like knitting/crochet however im in the process of doing a degree with the ou and not sure i could fit anything else in to my very limited spare time eapecially once baby arrives smile

EggsMichelle Mon 10-Sep-12 17:52:23

Honeymum the best thing for a sore throat is hot honey and lemon, plus you can drink as much as you like (unless you are diabetic!) with paracetamol. Ellie when I did my OU course I never did so much knitting!

PurplePidjin Mon 10-Sep-12 18:10:40

Signing in

I'm unsafe to be out of the house alone sad last week i forgot to buy a parking ticket and got fined, today i left a bag of shopping behind so will have to go back for it in a bit. Such a twat angry

CODwidow Mon 10-Sep-12 18:30:30

Just checking in smile

Barbeasty Mon 10-Sep-12 19:09:15

Daydream then go for it. You have nothing to loose, and could still turn it down if they offer it. And they could have maternity cover interviewed now too!

Honeymum I don't think there's any medicine you can have for a cough- you can't when breast feeding either. But honey is good, as is steam. Hope it gets better soon.

I'm shattered, and listening to DD bumble around her room after I put her to bed early. We went to DH's company summer barbecue on Saturday. It was fab- champagne and a whole sirloin done on the barbecue. But we got back late and then had a busy day yesterday.

I'm starting to really ache on the outside of one hip, normally if I sit badly or just for any length of time. And the bottom of the bump is aching, after throwing DD in the air quite a lot in her swimming lesson yesterday.

Feel really crappy tonight. Heartburn is ridiculous and I've got a headache. Also think I might have some kind of infection down there can't get to doctors until Monday though blush sad

ISpyPlumPie Mon 10-Sep-12 19:44:08

Spotty - can really sympathise with the heartburn. Had it badly with DS, but stupidly thought I'd escaped this time - it came back with a vengance last night though! Trying to avoid Gaviscon as the mw who runs antenatal mentioned overuse can contribute to anaemia. I was anaemic last time and also glugged Gaviscon by the bottle, but to be fair I've never heard this before and my iron level was only just normal at booking in so might have been conincidence. Not sure I'll get through without it anyway- might just have to up spinnach intake at the same time!

Everyone is making me feel very disorganised with all the Christmas shopping. It is something I planned to get sorted but not started yet. DS has decided he'd like a bike from Father Christmas. Tempted to get one, but just worried that there's a lot of time for him to change his mind!

ISpy I'm going to get something stronger when I see the doctor. Gaviscon isn't even lasting two hours! Also I think now is the time to get a bike as it's end of season, I can't imagine it's something he wouldn't want, even if he starts asking for something else he will love it when he sees it smile

pmgkt Mon 10-Sep-12 20:12:38

Marking place

itsMYNutella Mon 10-Sep-12 20:20:49

Hello Ladies, you are all looking lovely. I'm just marking my place <grabs big squishy cushion & makes self comfortable>
Oh and we bought our buggy yesterday grin 2nd hand deal via eBay. Very pleased! Feels like we're getting there with the baby shopping.... Slowly slowly!

Secondsop Mon 10-Sep-12 20:34:52

Hello all. A painful day for me today - woke up feeling a bit of back pain and the day at work didn't help it one bit. Got a back support but it isn't supporting the lower back, which is what hurts. I think it's from sitting on a bench at a lunch yesterday, as I felt very uncomfy by the end of the lunch. Am taking a cushion to work tomorrow to push into my lumbar region.

We went to the shops after work (I thought it might help to walk around - I was wrong!) including our first trip into a baby shop (mamas and papas). Got a bit freaked out - it's a whole world of shopping we know nothing about whatsoever!

EggsMichelle Mon 10-Sep-12 20:35:30

Ispy every child should have a bike even if they dont ask for one, and he will think it's amazing! I've never had heart burn, which it's odd since I have reflux, so there is an obscenely massive bottle of gaviscon sat in my cupboard a friend bought me going free to a good home!

emilyeggs Mon 10-Sep-12 21:16:06

I have not stopped drinking water today and still feel thirsty hmm is this normal?

Bellaboo123 Mon 10-Sep-12 22:18:54

Hi all just marking my place!

Bad nights sleep too aching back and hips!

Haven't been on much lately as busy and having a crap time at work - work with a complete bitch grrrr!

Can't believe we're entering 3rd trimester now!!!

Booked our last holiday before baby is born tonight - gulp! Scary stuff!!! Can anyone recommend travel insurance that covers pregnancy?

HoneyMum21 Mon 10-Sep-12 22:57:58

Someone was saying on here a few weeks ago (sorry, can't remember who) that they thought they had a spot ahem down there but then thought it was a varicose vein... I'm having a similar issue, though not entirely sure what a varicose vein in that area would look like. If anyone would care to share experiences that would be much appreciated...

ISpyPlumPie Mon 10-Sep-12 23:22:25

That's what I was thinking about a bike - it's something he should have anyway, and I'm sure he'll just get caught up in the excitement on Christmas morning. Best start looking.

Eggs - depending on how tonight goes might have to take you up on the offer of Gaviscon. Think part of the problem last night was that I ate later than usual, and pre-DS we did eat our evening meal quite a bit later generally which might be why I suffered more last time. Fingers crossed it is something so easily resolved .....

2blessed Tue 11-Sep-12 04:10:14

I'm up with a heavy cold, back pain and a LO who thinks its party time! can't deal with being sick this week, packing to move into new flat next week. Off to sick sofa for a sob

Honeymum it was me. It's gone now but it looked like a bulging vein blush

I've had a crap nights sleep. Still got a headache and got to go and get dd's genetic test results this morning sad

EggsMichelle Tue 11-Sep-12 06:45:49

Good luck Spotty, is this the big appointment you Had been waiting for? All week my body has been threatening a cold, and I think it has finally arrived this morning, my face feels like it has had slime pumped into it!

Yes it is.

Oh I'm dreading getting a cold, poor you, have to have some vix, honey & lemon and lots of sympathy!

HoneyMum21 Tue 11-Sep-12 07:49:22

Thanks spotty. How long did it last for? Good luck to you and your dd this morning. Will be thinking of you.

It only lasted a few days so not sure if it was that or if it was just all the pressure etc?

knottyhair Tue 11-Sep-12 07:58:30

Thinking of you this morning Spotty. Sorry to those of you suffering this morning. Slept a bit better last night but still woke up about 4 times. Was going to attempt Davina's Pre-natal Workout this morning but my back is still killing me so I'm going to see how it is tomorrow.

ISpyPlumPie Tue 11-Sep-12 08:05:39

Morning everyone.

No heartburn last night so might be something in the not eating late apart from a yogurt before bed theory. Still didn't get a great night's sleep though as DS was unsettled - seems to be getting a cough - and LO also decided to make his/her presence very known (you have my sympathy 2blessed).

Good luck for the appointment Spotty.

gilsbubbles Tue 11-Sep-12 08:06:27

Feeling like the luckiest girl in the world. Little one it's very wriggly, lots of feet and elbows prodding me.
DP proposed and while we were away on a romantic weekend on the north coast, he took me out to pick an engagement ring grin
The next 10 weeks couldn't go fast enough but I'm not wishing them away for a change cause I'm so so happy right now!

CODwidow Tue 11-Sep-12 08:07:41

Ok so I've been reminded how sleepless nights feelsad been up at least 5 times with moving baby/wee/toothache and restless legs not sure how much longer I can keep a sunny smile on my face today. Luckily it's ds's first afternoon at school today so may get some sleep later. smile

I also think I may be lacking in iron as becoming overally tired for over a week now.

emily I am also very thirsty and have been all the way through I think I'll mention it again in 2 weeks when I go back as it seems really excessive.

PurplePidjin Tue 11-Sep-12 08:14:32

Congratulations Gils thanks

knottyhair Tue 11-Sep-12 08:39:43

Lovely news Gils smile!

HoneyMum21 Tue 11-Sep-12 09:26:19

Congratulations gils

emilyeggs Tue 11-Sep-12 09:34:30

Congratulations gils and good luck spotty smile

ISpyPlumPie Tue 11-Sep-12 09:35:21

Congratulations gils - how lovely smile.

EggsMichelle Tue 11-Sep-12 10:39:52

Congratulations Gils!

WeeJo08 Tue 11-Sep-12 10:42:12

Checking in smile

Congratulations Gils thanks What lovely news! Enjoy this time, so special smile

Had more acupuncture yesterday - I do think it's making a bit of a difference, though still sore. Roll on holiday time next week!

Bellaboo It might have been me talking about travel insurance as we're going away. In the end, I remembered that I get free European Ageaes travel insurance with my bank account (Santander) so I called them up to check if I was covered and they said yes, as long as my doctor signed me off to fly (which I would have to do anyway) that they are happy to cover me. That's probably not very helpful, sorry.

We went to look at prams yesterday evening. A friend of a friend is selling a Quinny Buzz with carrycot and footmuff so we wanted to go and see it in the shop, then we'll go and see it "in person" next week. We really liked it grin so fingers crossed the actual one is in good condition. We're buying the car seat separately anyway.

Hope everyone who's poorly/sore is feeling a little bit better today brew

CODwidow Tue 11-Sep-12 10:48:20

Congratulations gils

Stacks Tue 11-Sep-12 10:50:02

Congratulations Gils
Good luck with the appointment Spotty
COD I was meaning to say last week - my brother has ADHD, so I can go over some of the problems he had at school if that'd be useful for you. How's your boy doing this week?

I'm also in the terrible night sleep club, but I've had it for a couple of weeks now. I can sleep from about 11-3am, then I'm awake tossing and turning the rest of the night. My back muscles just can't handle laying down for that long. I've found sitting up in bed, or walking around for 5 minutes to help, then I can get back to sleep for another 30 mins to an hour.

As for appointments, I've had hardly any! I saw my midwife for booking in at 10 weeks, then 16 weeks, 22 weeks, and I'm seeing her again next week at 28 weeks. This is my first baby, and I'm technically high risk/consultant led care (though the consultant has classified me as low risk, she can't 'discharge' me from her care).

Positive on the genetic test. Buggery bugger. Dd doesn't care though and it currently running around using my bra as a shopping basket hmm

Congrats gils how lovely for you, can you get your fiancé to have a word with my dp?!

minipie Tue 11-Sep-12 11:21:17

Congratulations gils! Lovely news smile.

Spotty sad what does that mean? what was the issue they were testing for? (sorry if I have missed earlier posts explaining).

I am grumpy today as my back is playing up, it's ok sitting and lying down but walking hurts on one side. Mum's advice is to ditch the handbag and use a rucksack - I suppose I probably should after all I already look huge and frumpy

Clarella Tue 11-Sep-12 11:22:32

My goodness a new thread already, just checking in and need to read up later!

PurplePidjin Tue 11-Sep-12 11:25:26

<passes homemade fruity flapjacks to sofa for Spotty>

You need a trolley minipie wink

It's a type of muscular dystrophy, I knew she had it but it's more real now. Rubbish.

Clarella Tue 11-Sep-12 11:26:10

Congratulations gils!

Sorry to hear your news spotty, and sorry I too may have missed what that means, big hugs to you xx

PurplePidjin Tue 11-Sep-12 11:27:50


Clarella Tue 11-Sep-12 11:32:52

Oh spotty, does the genetic diagnosis help her management/treatment further or was she already getting support? I hope they've offered you support too. Lots of hugs Xxx

minipie Tue 11-Sep-12 11:38:26

oh spotty sorry to hear that. Big hug.

Well she already has physio so it will just be a case of the paediatrician keeping an eye on her. It's a progressive disease and she won't need any major 'treatment' (surgery) for over a decade hopefully. I just feel bad because it's me that's given it to her and I feel bad for dp! Anyway I want to make myself feel better by buying the pushchair but they're out of stock so can't grin we settled on a Sainsbury's breakfast though!

Secondsop Tue 11-Sep-12 11:58:02

gils, congratulations!

spotty sorry to hear your news. But don't feel bad about the genetic nature of it! Judging by the generous support you give others on this thread, your daughter couldnt have landed in more loving arms.

MyDaydream Tue 11-Sep-12 12:12:18

Gils congratulations!
Sorry to hear about your DD Spotty

Just weed all over my hands getting my sample ready for MW appointment.
Can I ask all you ladies who've moved/will be moving what your doing about your MW? Have you stayed with your current surgery to keep your midwife, or just moved to a more convenient surgery?

HoneyMum21 Tue 11-Sep-12 12:36:45

Sorry to hear the news spotty but like seconds said, try not to feel guilty (I know it's hard). And you really do seem so loving and supportive, your dd couldn't have a better mum

Congratulations gils thanks

And sorry to hear that spotty. It's awful when they're poorly but at least the hospital are aware so age can receive the best care possible!

I'm still not feeling right tbh. Just having a lie down as sitting at my desk is killing me. Doesn't help ds is home from school as something his dad fed him over the weekend has given him an upset tummy and he keeps having 'accidents'. So he's bugging me because he's bored!

LO isn't bothered though and is currently somersaulting which makes me feel incredibly queasy!

Does anybody else get a weird taste in their mouth after they eat? Never had this in pregnancy before but it's awful, not metallic but just bad. And it's after all foods, I have to brush my teeth every time I eat something!

knottyhair Tue 11-Sep-12 13:00:24

Just to echo everyone else Spotty, sorry about your DD but she couldn't have a better mummy xx

CODwidow Tue 11-Sep-12 13:40:26

stacks thanks for asking, he's ok I guess although his problems affect him at school mostly as this is when he is expected to sit still so his teacher probably wouldn't say the same! I find his aggression hard to deal with as it's directed at his brothers if they laugh at him and it can be such a small thing. But his referral was sent off today so hoping to hear from them soon.

Just dropped ds4 off for his first day at schoolsad he was so excited but I still got a little emotional.

knottyhair Tue 11-Sep-12 13:48:57

COD, glad your DS is doing OK and hope that you get the referral back soon. Bet your DS4 is having a great time, but I remember that feeling well, very emotional.
Just had a Mothercare delivery of a top & tail bowl and pk of 3 cuddle & dry towels. Have also started Christmas shopping but only in as far as I've booked tickets for DP & I to see Mark Thomas in October and with dinner beforehand, that's our present to each other smile.

ellliebelle Tue 11-Sep-12 14:39:56

spotty sorry to hearvyour news about dd, try not to feel guilty she is lucky to have a loving anf supportive mummy. Are the odds high that the baby will hwve the same problem?

Congratulations gils sounds like a lovely proposal smile dh and i are going away next weekend without the dd's i know we are already married but i doubt there will be anything romantic planned. He's just not like that (much to my dissapointment) im just looking forward to the break to be honest hoping to stay in the room a whole day and be lazy and order room service smile

It's 50/50 so anyone's guess really! We could have the baby tested before birth but decided not to.

My dp isn't romantic either, I still haven't had a birthday present hmm and he's never cooked a 'proper' meal for me!

Stacey sorry you're feeling rubbish I'm still feeling pretty crappy, nothing specific apart from a headache and just generally yuck!

<off to eat dp's Maltesers>

MyDaydream Tue 11-Sep-12 15:20:52

ellie hope you have a great weekend away, my DP doesn't really do romance but I wouldn't trade him for someone who does!
Had my MW appointment today and everything is fine. She booked me in for a GTT because my BMI was just over the normal/overweight line when I booked in. When it says they take blood for it is it a big vial or just a finger prick?

WeeJo08 Tue 11-Sep-12 15:54:27

Spotty Just saw your news about DD - hope you guys are okay. Like lots of people have said already though, she is loved and looked after amazingly - by the doctors but also (most importantly) by her family

ISpyPlumPie Tue 11-Sep-12 16:03:07

Spotty - sorry to hear your news. Absolutely agree with what everyone else has said about what a great mum your DD has.

COD - hope you get some support for your DS too.

Stacey - hope you're feeling better soon.

CODwidow Tue 11-Sep-12 16:05:14

spotty sorry to hear your news.

Well I've just been and bought myself some spatone and rearranged my bloods for this week to check my iron as this exhaustion is ridiculous and I can't function like it anymore. Hopefully that's what it is and within a week or so of taking it I'll be back to my normal self a little smile

Thanks everyone. I don't actually feel sad about it, although I'm sure I could manage a sob if I actually started processing it. I'm just going to try and keep her fit and healthy and encourage her to do sport because that's the best treatment for her smile

I feel ridiculously sick though confused

kate2boysandabump Tue 11-Sep-12 17:06:21

Spotty Sorry to hear your news, some days it's really tough being a mom sad Your dd is really lucky that you're the one standing with her supporting her.

Gils Congratulations!!!!

COD I haven't forgotten about you, my post became somewhat epic, so I've PM'd you. Hope that's OK?

I had a blood test today and my arm has swollen up and is killing me. It's our first Beaver meeting tonight though, so I can't even go to bed early. I shouldn't have stayed up to watch the tennis, I'm shattered.

ellliebelle Tue 11-Sep-12 17:19:04

daydream i wouldnt trade my dh either smile

eggs meant to ask what ou course you did?

Tmi but i have had trapped wind all afternoon and im majorly uncomfortable sad

utopian99 Tue 11-Sep-12 17:22:26

Just checking in briefly to say congratulations gils and sorry to hear your news spotty, and reiterate what others have said..

Our first nct group tonight which i am strangely nervous about, but will report back if anyone's interested?

Sorry to whoever asked about work for not replying - as am currently suspended and not been given any concrete reason for a week now I'm cagey about the whole thing..

Clarella Tue 11-Sep-12 17:39:47

Sorry to hear about that Utopian, hope you're ok. Id love to hear as had yet another horror story about nct the other night (though his wife - he's a gp - was quick to point out it was the two day cram it in course so they knew no-one there and didnt really get to know anyone and her husband has a particular hatred of whale and dolphin relaxation music. She also added it depended on the course leader and their classes were by the sea) My mum and sister had nothing but praise for the NCT!

CODwidow Tue 11-Sep-12 17:54:45

Thank you kate I have replied (must warn you it's an essay) grin

pmgkt Tue 11-Sep-12 18:10:37

Ellie I have wind too and a couple of times today I have farted loudly in quiet places but didn't have chance to stop it. I just look around as if it was someone else

Checking in quickl[y.. Had a quick scan through.. Congratulations gils
<hugs> spotty
Have had major farts today blush

Has anyone else's stomach muscles separated yet? It's grossing me out....

itsMYNutella Tue 11-Sep-12 20:06:18

Spotty what happens when they do? I've noticed that in the last couple of weeks (really not sure when it started) mine have been rather useless hmm

Well when you tense, say when sitting from laying, there's a gap between them in a line from the middle of your ribs down to your belly button. Dp didn't believe him until I got him to feel!

itsMYNutella Tue 11-Sep-12 20:30:47

Weird.... Does anyone find out about all this stuff before they get pregnant? I'm guessing they wouldn't. Why, why does pregnancy have to do all this crazy stuff to me?
Things I knew include bump, sore boobs, back pain, leg cramps, skin and hair stuff, baby kicking (since it just made its presence felt grin) and errr childbirth.... But I think that was about it.... Jeeez I think I better go study confused

I never would have imagined all the things pregnancy can do! Errr hairy belly, what's all that about?!

itsMYNutella Tue 11-Sep-12 20:34:27

And OWWW just got a weird tingly pain in my boobs... Sort of from the sides in towards the nipples confused damn over sensitive slightly leaky nipples!

Maybe it's growing pains.... Which reminds me I need a new bra.....

itsMYNutella Tue 11-Sep-12 20:36:45

Yup, I have a hairy belly.... Slightly concerned my face might be hairy too.... But I try not to look too close in the mirror think about it.... So happy I'm blonde!

Bubbless Tue 11-Sep-12 20:40:34

checking in [hi!]

i go away for 2 mins and you guys finish a thread and do 4 pages on a new one?!!?

okay.. new query of the day- ive got thrush, not 'oh, thats a tad itchy' as in [run to the toilet because you want to rip your fanjo off at work' kinda thrush, what can i dooooo :'(

hope everyones doing okay, just checking in before i go to bed!!

Bellaboo123 Tue 11-Sep-12 20:47:20

Spotty hugs to you!
Gils big congrats!
Utopian WTF can they do that???

Just back from pregnancy yoga nice BUT it's not rocking my world am I the only one that thinks this...!

Got a stabbing pain near my belly button - get it quite often ouch anyone else???

27 weeks today gulp!!!

I've had massive farts for weeks - really loud, so unattractive but such a relief blush

itsMYNutella Tue 11-Sep-12 20:55:13

Bubbless I had an attack of similar mega thrush about six weeks ago - Dr prescribed me a weeks supply of tablets (not to be taken by mouth) and cream. But that was here in Germany... Not sure what you would get in the UK. But I highly recommend the Dr!
I was also told to keep using the cream for a week after the symptoms go because it can continue to live down there and then come back when you stop using cream [confued]

MyDaydream Tue 11-Sep-12 21:15:22

Spotty Not sure about the tummy thing, I think it's still all in one piece but will have to investigate when I go to bed. DP finds my hairy belly hilarious, I really wasn't expecting to become so hairy!
I went to find something to wear for my interview tomorrow that maybe didn't make me look as pregnant and ended up in a foul mood when I found out Matalan in my town doesn't stock maternity so couldn't get any bottoms, I had a whole outfit planned on the basis of Matalan stocking maternity. I let my rage out on some wanker who really did deserve it, but probably looked a bit unhinged. Didn't get any clothes, but did find a gorgeous coat in Sainsburys that will probably work not pregnant too so have told myself if I get this job tomorrow I'll buy it.

Bellaboo123 Tue 11-Sep-12 21:18:53

Anyone thinking of having a 4d scan???

HoneyMum21 Tue 11-Sep-12 21:29:33

We're thinking about it Bella - DH is really keen as the time between scan at 20 weeks and actually meeting LO seems so long and i think he feels more involved when he can see baby, if that makes sense. I'm keen too but if DH wasn't so hooked on the idea i'm not sure i'd be bothered.Are you having one?

I would quite like one this time but as I've already had five scans and I've got another four booked I don't think dp will agree grin

Bellaboo123 Tue 11-Sep-12 21:37:03

I'm tempted just thinking my a bonding perspective - its about £95 where we are, it's just justifying the expense!

Would be nice and nows the right time...hmmm so tempting!

PurplePidjin Tue 11-Sep-12 21:39:11

Daydream,if it's Sainsburys just put it on the reward points!

Barbeasty Tue 11-Sep-12 21:46:31

Daydream good luck tomorrow, and hope you get that coat!

Spotty Sorry about your DD.

Gils Congratulations.

COD How high were your iron levels at the start of your pregnancy? I know last time mine started high and as they drop I felt anaemic even though they stayed within "normal" levels. I think the same thing is happening now- despite still taking a daily pregnancy vitamin pill with all the iron I should need.

If you can afford it bella then go for it. I went to a friends and it was amazing.

Anyone else watching One Born and feeling really emotional?! Was sat bouncing on my ball farting away but now feeling a bit sad

spotty with you on the stomach muscle seperation, i've had it since 13 weeks - if i try to sit up using them my belly protrudes like a big triangle between them shock - it's not been so noticeable since LO has got bigger but still freaks me out - the advice is not to use your stomach muscles (though i can only imagine how useless they'll be at getting back into shape after confused, so roll out of bed rather than sit up etc it's very unladylike rolling around like an upturned woodlouse.

bellaboo trying to embrace the pregnancy yoga but it does seem a bit underwhelming i agree

and everyone with the wind issues - oh yes. i'm giving my 90 year old, farts at will, grandmother a run for her money with the regularity and resonance of mine. blush

CODwidow Tue 11-Sep-12 22:07:31

barbeasty I don't actually know what they were I'll check notes in a min to see if she wrote them down. I always become anaemic in pregnancy but thought i'd done enough not too this time. It may just be getting back to the early school days, 4ds's and being 27weeks pregnant but this is extreme tiredness.

cherrypiew3 Tue 11-Sep-12 22:08:22

Hi everyonesmile

Gils congratulations

Spotty sorry to hear your news about your dd.

mydaydream We moved at the start of the year and I was told by the gp that we could not stay at the surgery due to not been in the catchment area any more we moved 10 mins down the roadhmm. Have you checked this they might not give you a choice to stay.

27+1 today and I feel like it is going really slowly anyone else feel like this?

Mummycox Tue 11-Sep-12 22:09:35

Greetings from a very warm Spain. Would love to say im looking forward to coming home, id be lying its been a really lovely holiday.

Anyway...Marking my place ladies, shall catch up properly in next couple of days.

pmgkt Tue 11-Sep-12 22:13:41

I watched one born, I loved watching the normal one when I was pregnant last time. I'm pleased little Freddy made it. But 7 kids, brave woman.

HoneyMum21 Tue 11-Sep-12 22:46:55

Does the regularity/strength of braxton hicks mean anything? I've had then really strong all day today and panicking slightly that it means something is going to happen...

emilyeggs Tue 11-Sep-12 22:59:22

Had my 24 week app with doctor today, all good, heard bubba's hart got my bump measured (27cm) don't know what that means. Have ever so slightly low blood pressure but not concerned. All good really smile hears wishing everyone (including me) a good nights sleep for once

Clarella Tue 11-Sep-12 23:00:26

Potentially stupid question alert - are the tummy muscles supposed to separate, is that what always happens? If not what does happen?

Do all nipples leak during pregnancy? Mine were extremely painful till about 24 weeks and occasionally smell a little dairy like (old dairy blush) but no leaking that I'm aware of. Getting bigger though...

I think I've got a hairy tummy, and now got that very faint line thing but noticed my 'tash' has completely disappeared smile

Clarella Tue 11-Sep-12 23:01:28

And ditto honeymums q too!

EggsMichelle Wed 12-Sep-12 03:50:11

You ladies talk far too much, although it has given me something to ready at this stupid time. No clue why I'm awake, Shrimpy asleep and bladder wasn't full, odd!

Spotty sorry to hear about your DDs result, but at least you were prepared and you sound like you know how you are going to deal with it.

Utopian i recommend you make use of some of that lovely maternity rage and kick your boss in the balls/pubic bone, give them a proper excuse to suspend you!!!

Ellie I did a mentoring in nursing practice degree module, and really enjoyed it! When iv got a few more spare pennies I'm going to look at doing a full degree or masters through OU.

Daydream iv not got my GTT until next Tuesday, but I presume it's a whole vial as the pin prick is not entirely accurate, plus my MW isn't taking any blood at my 28wk scan as she said they will just test the blood they take at the GTT.

Still think constipation is the worse symptom that know one warned me about, but currently the extreme leaky nipples leaving crust in my bra is grossing me out (sorry TMI)

MyDaydream Wed 12-Sep-12 07:05:33

Purple I don't have Sainsburys reward points or I would have.
cherry I was thinking more of lying about moving, but discussed it with the midwife yesterday and she said to get registered now to book my 28 week appointment, but if they can't fit me in then she'll still see me until my new one can, I just need to call her direct.
Mummy very jealous, hope you've had a nice time.
Eggs thank you. We're planning to see if DP needed to come with and hold my hand. I don't give up blood easily, I like a distraction from the digging.
Went to bed feeling really sick, woke up to heartburn. sad

MyDaydream hope your heartburn goes soon, I was kept up with it last night sad

It is normal for stomach muscles to separate in pregnancy, usually in the second half. Mine have been gone for a while but as it's dc2 I suppose it would happen sooner. It's when they down't go back afterwards that it's a problem....

I haven't had any nipple leakage yet and didn't get it last time either, but it is normal for some people.

emily I think they say 1cm for each weeks so you're measuring a few weeks ahead but this isn't an exact science smile

Honey is it just the tightening's you're getting or is it painful? If it's just the tightening's then I wouldn't think it was anything, you could be dehydrated that makes it worse or you could just need to rest! I get days when I have them constantly, it's a pain especially when trying to eat! If they are painful I would go and get it checked as it could well be some kind of UTI or other infection.

I watched OBEM too and I don't think I could cope with twins or anything!

Mummycox envy hope you're enjoying your holiday!

Cherry I'm only 24+6 and yea, it's going sooo slow. I think once you hit 28 weeks it starts to speed up a little bit what with increased appointments (bigger bump wink) etc

Phew that was long..... I'm feeling Christmassy today hmm must be the cold morning SQUEEEEE so excited!

Secondsop Wed 12-Sep-12 07:40:04

Hey ladies, I am really suffering with this hip pain. I can barely move even a few feet between bed and toilet, and even the slightest movement triggers intense pain that makes me shout out. Am trying to get to the doctor today. I've ordered one of those big c-shaped pillows and last night slept with a pillow between my legs and one under my tummy but the pain was still just as bad (even worse) this morning. I can't just stay immobile - what about work? Even if i use crutches i still can't sit in a chair without constant pain. I really hope there's something the doctor can do. If I'm told it's just a normal pregnancy thing that must be endured I will cry (again) because I feel so incapacitated at present.

knottyhair Wed 12-Sep-12 08:13:45

Second, that sounds really horrible & painful, hope you get to see the doctor today.
I think I must be in the minority with the wind thing, I'm normally very windy blush but I've rarely "blown the big brown horn" since being pregnant confused. Also haven't had constipation. Have however got heartburn everytime I eat, whether it's chilli or a banana. Back is hurting this morning - not looking forward to doing a food shop and dragging my old lady shopping trolley back home.

clarella I never had leaky nipples with the other 2 but I have with this one so I assume both having/not having leakage is normal!

And as for BH I think as long as they aren't painful then it's not a worry. Midwife was slightly concerned with me when I was getting them accompanied with back pain but in the end all was fine. Try to drink lots of water and have a relaxing bath, see of they calm down.

Well last night I went to bil and sil's house with children and got home at 9pm as we were helping to decorate with them before a new carpet is put in today. Poor ds was shattered and fell asleep on the way home. I was asleep by half 9! Thankfully slept most the night too! Oh I love to sleep!

I hope everyone has a good day today. Dentist for me later, really don't wanna go!

emilyeggs Wed 12-Sep-12 08:39:13

So sorry to hear your in so much pain seconds, I hope you can get some help with it from the doctor

JoJoB77 Wed 12-Sep-12 09:00:47

Morning smile

Sorry to hear about your DDs results Spotty & also about your job situation Utopian

Re leaky nips, mine didnt leak last time & havent so far this time, suppose thats just normal for me.

I havent noticed my tummy muscles have separated yet, dont remember it happening last time & dont really like the sound of it confused

All good here, am 26+2 today & feeling good after a full nights sleep after the previous unsettled night with DD. I think we will be mostly chilling today. Oh how i love working just the two days grin

I am booked in for a swab at 36 weeks to test for Group B Strep as i had it while pg with DD & had to deliver on consultant ward. If clear this time i can go to the MLU which is literally 10 mins away. Would be much more suitable but am feeling really nervous that if something went wrong ud have to be bluelighted to hosp an hour away confused. Need to keep thinking positive thoughts instead.

Hope ypu get to see your doc today Second & he offers some form of pain relief.

Sorry if ive missed anyone, have a good day all.

JoJoB77 Wed 12-Sep-12 09:02:49

Oops forgot

Gpod luck for today Daydream

Congratulations Gils lovely news!

WeeJo08 Wed 12-Sep-12 10:11:57

Uuuggghhh. So tired. Really didn't sleep well as my back was so sore in bed - how come it is more painful in bed than when I'm doing anything else?? Had to get a few times to wee too and had a really bad dream right before I woke up so that really didn't help.

Had yoga last night which I enjoyed - antenatal aquafit is on tonight but not sure if I'm going to go as I'm out tomorrow night too, so maybe a night in would be better.

Daydream Good luck today!

Seconds I hope you get some relief/useful advice today. My back/hips sound nowhere near as sore as yours and they're making me plenty miserable so can't imagine how you feel sad

Saw the photos from the Strictly launch! So excited about it! It's on on Saturday grin

I'm tired too, will be going to bed with dd shortly, although I haven't been having any luck sleeping at nap time either!

Secondsop let us know what the doctor says, sounds horrible

CODwidow Wed 12-Sep-12 12:29:38

Phew feeling a little better today, had a much better nights sleep last night and dh woke this morning and announced he's going to quit smoking so really hoping he keeps it up. I know he can do it as he did it after our last ds but then started again 2 yrs later due to stress at work and social reasons sad

I also need a swab at 36wks as had strep b in 2nd pregnancy so hoping that'll be clear as I'd really like to go to the birth centre but ours is joined to the hospital.

PurplePidjin Wed 12-Sep-12 12:35:46

Hope they're helpful, Seconds

Just had my 28 week appt - bloods, heart beat (although i have that done weekly because of the syncopation), blood pressure and measuring spot on for dates. Had a lovely and clearly very new student nurse sit in, mw showed us where PidjChick's head is and she was so chuffed to feel it grin I'm now all booked in to antenatal classes too; we get 3 for couples plus a bf session for mums only. With such good provision, i see no need to pay for nct (and have heard they're quite cliquey round here) I've also had a letter saying the hv will be visiting next month <eek> it's all starting to get very real!

PurplePidjin Wed 12-Sep-12 12:42:34

Fwiw, my local birth centre is a good half hour from the hospital by car, more in rush hour. In an ambulance with the blues and twos going it's more like 12 minutes...

JoJoB77 Wed 12-Sep-12 12:50:59

Ah thanks Pidj i now realise that an ambulance journey would probably take not much more than half an hour, which doesnt seem so bad now.

Secondsop Wed 12-Sep-12 13:56:25

Hey y'all, thank you for all your comments. I've been signed off work for a bit as the doctor said it wasn't going to get better any time soon, and he's doing an urgent referral to the physio. He said it's the ligaments etc getting misaligned as everything expands for the baby. He was v good. I'm also having my urine tested to eliminate infection but he doesn't think it's that. I can take paracetamol and deep heat. The baby seems fine, which is the main thing - kicking away.

knottyhair Wed 12-Sep-12 14:26:25

Good news Second, hope the physio appt comes through quickly and you start to feel better.

Sounds like you have a lovely GP seconds hope the rest helps you feel better

MyDaydream Wed 12-Sep-12 14:57:40

Thank you to everyone who's wished me luck. Setting off soon to go hoping my heartburn holds off until I can grab some gaviscon but it's not likely.
Good luck to your DH COD I quit just before I got pregnant and am so thankful ive had baby to think of when it's all been a bit much!
seconds sounds like you've got a brilliant doctor there, hopefully the physio will be as good.

Bubbless Wed 12-Sep-12 15:42:33

nutella you see, its gone today.. but im scared it will come back! so will make sure i make a point of saying something at my 25w appt whcih ive had to book with the doc as the mw is fully booked :/

daydream our matalan stock a very poor selection of maternity clothes, including about 4 teeshirts, one pair of trousers (which are really joggers) and a skirt... thats about it.. if it makes you feel any better!! hope your interview went well?!

i got cramp for the first time in my leg during the night last night, i forgot how horrible it was!

hope everyones doing okay, sorry to hear about your hips seconds sounds horrific sad

utopian99 Wed 12-Sep-12 15:57:49

hi all.. NCT report:
First class good - got to know other people which was less awkward than it could be due to us all being from same area and due at same time, and largely same age, don't know if that's normal? Course leader is very nice, very soft spoken but capable of being useful and informative while also making jokes about the awful bits everyone's afraid of, which helps! She's been a midwife previously, so great to have her on the spot to ask questions. She also let us set our own group agenda a bit, in terms of questions about birth and newborns to cover in the next 7 sessions..This first one mostly covered the stages of labour, variation in what it might feel like (various stages of horrendous, they don't gloss over what happens - GRAPHIC images!)and how long it might take inc placenta delivery and what happens if you end up having to have a c-section for emergencies. Also covered a bit of massage for labour (which was easily my favourite bit, and we were spared the whale music!!)

will report again next week..

EggsMichelle Wed 12-Sep-12 19:22:20

Been sat in A&E since 4.45, DHs knee has given up AGAIN and now waiting for X-ray. Better than last time, early hours or Saturday morning with the drunks and fighters, just lots of little old ladies and business men!

Secondsop Wed 12-Sep-12 20:43:03

eggs that sounds rough - I hope you're not waiting too long!

Oh dear Eggs hope you're not still there!

I'm addicted to mars milkshakes (don't tell my diabetes dr). They're so cold and nice on my heartburn!!

FriendofDorothy Wed 12-Sep-12 21:26:43

I have seriously been to the most bizarre ante-natal class ever. The woman taking it would appear to be a bit of an island treasure, and came out with some classics such as...

“I much prefer pregnant vaginas, they are a magenta pink colour and I had a ball gown that colour once”.

I massively lost the plot at one point, mainly when I caught the eye of this guys sitting the other side of the room. Apparently the classes only get better/worse!

grin Friend that's hilarious! Is it an nhs one?

FriendofDorothy Wed 12-Sep-12 21:29:57

Yeah, well our equivalent of the NHS anyway.

Hopefully you will meet some nice people even if it isn't going to be particularly informative confused

Clarella Wed 12-Sep-12 22:37:06

You had me choking over my Redbush friend grin

Clarella Wed 12-Sep-12 22:37:54

Tea, I don't have a red-bush...

Clarella Wed 12-Sep-12 22:40:24

Hope alls well eggs, also with you second and they can help you pronto.

Sounds a good class utopian, thanks for the feedback smile

Mine start next week

ISpyPlumPie Wed 12-Sep-12 23:15:28

Sounds like an interesting class Friend - I wonder what insights she'll share with you next time!

Went to a home birth group tonight. Spoke to one of the mws in lots of detail about the 'what ifs' that had been worrying me and feel confident now it is the right choice for us. Think DH found it all v reassuring to esp realising that quite a few of the other dads had anxieties about being in a non-medical setting too. Just need to keep our fingers crossed that this LO is a bit keener to make an entrance than big brother was so don't end up missing out on hb because of another induction....

Re constipation: baked beans definitely cure me blush grin I thought it was a coincidence but it appears not. Taste better than Fybogel too!

PurplePidjin Thu 13-Sep-12 08:03:19

Dried fruit on cereal every morning here wink

Oh pidj much healthier! I don't like milk (unless it's chocolate) so don't really eat cereal. Not very nice dry!

Maximum of 13 weeks lefts eek!!

PurplePidjin Thu 13-Sep-12 08:12:04

Shreddies. Sultanas. Chocolate milk. Yummy! Or pouring yoghurt, like in eastern Europe smile

I use the slow cooker a lot, so generally chuck lentils/tin of mixed beans/chick peas in with whatever's in that!

FriendofDorothy Thu 13-Sep-12 08:45:59

Fybogel has been my saving grace. One sachet of that with breakfast seems to be keeping everything in check.

Queenofsiburbia Thu 13-Sep-12 09:30:58


grin at ball gown coloured vag's & giggling over redbushes... We'll believe you clarella wink

utopian thanks for a description of NCT, mine don't start til October. I hope leader is as sensible as yours & that there's also no whale music! Maybe won't tell DH how graphic it is as he's utterly squeamish (about humans... Happily help a cow or sheep give birth but passes out at his own blood test hmm )

Coming down with a nasty snotty cold from DH (who has tajen every medicine under the sun for it) in time for anniversary / last pre-baby holiday fling in Rome. Pray it's not absolutely sweltering! Although sun will be nice.

Stupid immune system...

Oh, 28 week midwife appointment this week was nice. Baby upside down and getting ready to come out <bites nails nervously emoticon>

gilsbubbles Thu 13-Sep-12 09:40:21

Meltdown before leaving the house this morning cause I couldn't find my trousers....now I'm fighting back the tears with some work issues that I'd normally take in my stride.....booking my space on the sobbing soda for this evening. Bloody hormones sad

Secondsop Thu 13-Sep-12 09:53:24

Morning! I haven't had constipation at all apart from at the very start - feel v fortunate on that front.

The GP rang me this morning, he's been chasing up the physio appointment and said that if I go to the hospital they can fit me for a support belt. I'm very pleased with how he's got onto it.

Clarella Thu 13-Sep-12 10:03:06

Oh dear gils, I made my first pudding in the finally working oven last night, rhubard crumble, save you some with cream. here's hoping hormones doing something useful for baby other than upsetting mummy.

I have a healthy prune addiction but in some circumstances even that doesnt work! Spotty, my aunt and a friend both seemed to watch the same prog earlier in the year which looked at 'things you think are unhealthy but actually aren't' and apparently baked beans on wholemeal toast gives you a complete source of protein and lots of other things too so fart eat away merrily! this soup always seems to really really help me, plus mega yummy with a cream cheese sandwich. (tend to stick to half a can though or its a little explosive!)

And boiled beetroot smile

.... which, as all the athletes swear by beetroot, and bang goes the theory proved did improve stamina, I'm thinking might be good to eat during early labour. I'm such a media sucker. Doubt I'll care/ remember!

Hope all have good days xx

EggsMichelle Thu 13-Sep-12 10:17:05

My breakfast consists of fruit and fibre mixed with coco pops, makes the banana easier to swallow (I hate banana). Anything else and there is no movement at all!

The NCT groups sound too funny for me to take seriously, i will have ignored all the important stuff and still be giggling about that dress, makes me think of Lady GaGa's meat dress!

Back to the fracture clinic with DH this morning, there was too much swelling on the X-ray to see anything but he does have another very fetching pair of crutches. The last pair I had to make cushions on the hand rests to stop him getting blisters!!!

PurplePidjin Thu 13-Sep-12 10:44:15

Michelle, blend a banana into half a pint of milk and add as much hot chocolate powder as you can physically force in wink

Stacks Thu 13-Sep-12 10:54:12

I do a big bowl of fruit and fibre every morning, and not had any trouble with constipation at all. I've been getting indigestion and reflux more and more recently though. I'm hoping it doesn't get too much worse, at least, not too quickly.

Is it really only 13 weeks to go? Also, did I read somewhere it's (now less than) 100 days till Christmas?

Yes grin I love Christmas!! Well I'm 25 weeks today and won't go past 38 weeks grin

Stacks Thu 13-Sep-12 11:15:30

I'm 27 weeks now, so in 13 weeks I'll be 40+1 (by my dates). So I guess it's about 13 weeks for me too.

I'm 26 weeks and on bed rest today sad

Sobbing sofa for me. I had a bleed this morning and as I've been in a lot of pain in bottom of back and bump this week the midwife wants me to rest. If I'm still bleeding this afternoon I'm probably going to have to go in to be checked over. Looked online and tadpole is prob weighing around 1 and 2/3 lbs sad far too small to be coming out just yet!

Sorry to hear that stacey I'm sure it'll be fine just your body telling you to slow down smile if you're worried in the mean time then you can call labour ward

HoneyMum21 Thu 13-Sep-12 11:35:05

Aww stacey hugs and relaxing soothing noises. Take care

WeeJo08 Thu 13-Sep-12 11:42:25

Hope you and tadpole are okay, Stacey - try and take it easy & hopefully it will subside.

Another one for the sobbing sofa here - just finding it so painful in bed and it makes it hard to sleep. Woke up to pee las night and was so sore when I got back into bed & just could not get back to sleep. Tried to stretch a bit and then knocked over my water glass - cue lots of tears and "I just want to sleeeeep" wailing from me. Poor DH - he was very good though.

Less than 13 weeks for me too - was 27 weeks on Monday past - eeeeek! When does third trimester officially start?

Stacks Thu 13-Sep-12 11:55:34

Stacey hope everything is well. Just rest and take care of yourself. I'm sure everything will be fine. If worst case happened, remember they're very good at keeping babies in these days, even if your waters break and labour starts.

I'm also in pain a lot at night. I wake up every time I turn over, in more and more pain each time. I'm lucky that I'm still managing to get an ok number of hours sleep through the night though, even if it is all disturbed. Are you using any kind of support pillows WeeJo?

Also, 3rd trimester apparently officially starts "at the end of your 27th week", which I guess means at 28 weeks. Not sure why they don't just say that.

Secondsop Thu 13-Sep-12 11:55:52

stacey hope you feel better soon. If it's any consolation i've had a couple of little bleeds, probably caused by my low-lying placenta, and the baby's been fine throughout.

weejo have you tried different arrangements of pillows all around you in bed? I've ordered one of those big curved pillows but before it arrives I'm managing on my side with a soft feather pillow to support my bump, a pillow between my knees and a memory foam pillow behind my back. Getting to bed is a bit of a performance but I am finding it helps.

My baby centre email said that the third trimester starts at the beginning of week 28 (so 1 more week for me!) but I've read differing views so I don't think it's an exact science.

WeeJo08 Thu 13-Sep-12 12:12:55

Stacks & Seconds I have a big long Mothercare pillow that I got a few weeks ago but I'm not sure if it actually makes things worse sad I almost don't want to admit that! I am definitely getting sleep, but it's not the type of sleep I'm used to (I'm usually a reeeeally good sleeper) or as much as I'm used to so I feel tired, and all I want to do is go to bed and lie down but that is when I hurt the most. Basically I feel like a big whinge-monster!!

Anyway, things could be a lot worse. I am focusing on my birthday & holiday next week - they are nice things to think about smile Does anone want to see the dress I bought for my birthday dinner? (You know I'm going to show you it anyway smile)


It looks like a really dark navy in the photo but it's actually a lovely royal blue in real life. Might even be adventurous and wear heels!

EggsMichelle Thu 13-Sep-12 12:23:48

Stacey get plenty of rest, it's your body telling you to slow down and make OH do everything for you!

I can taste banana through everything, and it is rancid! I'm not a fussy person, but that makes me heave!!!

28wks today, whoopi!

WeeJo08 Thu 13-Sep-12 12:31:30

Yay Eggs! I am looking forward to the 28 week mark (I'm next Monday)

Meant to ask - did anyone else get their free Bounty "Mum-to-be" pack from Superdrug? I picked it up yesterday and it's a bit pants to be honest! I think I was probably expecting too much from freebies though!!

CODwidow Thu 13-Sep-12 13:12:38

Hope your ok stacey just do as they say and rest, I'm sure everything will be ok.

I'm 27 weeks now too so scary thinking how it's only 13 weeks and the last 13weeks have flown by. My first 3 were all born at 37 weeks so maybe even less!

Dd was born at 36 weeks. If I don't get stupidly ill again I'm torn between waiting as long as I can (which risks my placenta shrivelling and putting baby at risk) or just demanding induction at 37 weeks (which risks longer stay in SCBU). Hmm I know it's not entirely my decision and my body will probably decide before consultant and I get a chance but I would like to have a plan!

Stacks Thu 13-Sep-12 13:40:38

WeeJo what's in the Bounty pack? I've not got any freebies yet... Also, a friend lent me a dream genii pillow, but I find a normal feather pillow better to sleep with. I scrunch it up in the middle to make it a bow shape, then lay so one side is under my bump, the other at my back. Much easier to sleep with than the big elephant trunk thing, as I can turn over without getting tangled up.

A pillow between your legs, from knees to ankle is also supposed to help (specifically not between your thighs like the dream genii does). I find it just falls out when I'm asleep though, and also makes turning over too much hassle.

So, if you have a feather pillow, maybe throw the mothercare one on the floor for a night and give it a go. It definitely helps me to be able to turn over easier; means I don't stay in one position for too long, making the pain worse.

minipie Thu 13-Sep-12 14:19:15

I got my bounty pack at my booking in appointment. It's a bit rubbish IMO - in terms of actual stuff, there is a newborn pampers nappy (one) and a tiny tub of sudocrem. There are also various vouchers, however none are spectacular discounts (more like 50p off here and there) and most of mine seem to expire in October which is rubbish for a December due date! TBH I think the discounts in the "baby events" that most of the supermarkets run are better. They send a lot of junk mail too... which at the moment I don't mind as I like reading preg and baby related stuff but will be a bit of a pain if I'm still getting it in 5 years time...

itsMYNutella Thu 13-Sep-12 14:25:48

Hello all!

Loving the NCT antenatal group stories! Ha ha ha ha to the woman who prefers pregnant vaginas... honestly, she should probably spend more time outside less time looking at fanjos <snigger>

I'm in the same boat as you Weejo I'm missing my deep cosy sleeps and keep waking up, lying in bed awake with a sore back. Going to dig out some spare pillows later and try out Seconds instructions. And that dress looks lovely!
We have a wedding this weekend and I have gone for the rouched(sp)/gathered black dress and purple belt I posted on here a few weeks ago. Just need to figure out tights/leggings and maybe buy some shoes smile

I have had some decent freebies... have collected them all in a bag and not actually used any of them yet confused

Thanks ladies well I had to get kids frOm school but I'm back in bed now (they're really quite self sufficient if allowed the telly on wink)

Just feel shit but not in pain so that's a good sign. And no bleeding since this morning. So fx tadpoles doing ok (if the kicks are anything to go by we're alright). think this is made worse by the fact DH is going away to India next Friday for a week and a half sad

God I need to cheer the hell up!

HoneyMum21 Thu 13-Sep-12 16:45:51

Eeek. We just went and paid and arranged delivery on our pram and furniture for bump (the ICandy ordered in June has finally arrived at the warehouse). Don't think I've ever spent that much money all at once... Gulp. But everything is being delivered next week. So excited.

knottyhair Thu 13-Sep-12 17:00:15

Stacey, hope you feel better soon, sounds scary, hope you get some rest. Honey, how exciting!

kate2boysandabump Thu 13-Sep-12 17:12:02

I've been too busy and/or tired to post but I have been keeping up.

Stacey STAY IN BED!!!! Is there anyone who could take your 2 to school in the morning? It's lucky your 2 are self sufficient, mine are too, currently playing on the wii. Sorry you're feeling sad

second It sounds like your GP is doing a great job for you.

The NCT stories are brill, your 'teacher' is right though Friend, it is a different colour, although I wouldn't have felt the need to compare it to an item of clothing I owned. It's not like I'd be trying to get them to match wink Maybe she was shock

I didn't do NCT, just the NHS ones, so I don't know if they are any good. Looking forward to hearing more stories though smile

I saw the midwife on Wednesday and baby is doing fine and I'm measuring just right for dates. She also referred me for physio, as although my joints are not too bad now, she doesn't want me to wait until it is. So I have an appointment for 2nd October, which I thought was quite quick, especially compared to ds2, but she apologised for the long wait shock

Have had an awful blood test, it was fine when she did it, then it hurt more and more through the day, so I got a nurse friend to look at it and she said the technician had gone through the vein and lots of blood had pooled under the skin. My poor arm is very colourful at the moment.

Barbeasty Thu 13-Sep-12 18:38:30

kate ouch!

stacey can you make the most of it before he goes? Make him do everything so you're well rested.

honey how exciting.

After all that fuss I got home to a phone message saying that our pushchair bits are in and ready to collect. That was 1 week, not 3 months!

I don't want to collect it yet though, because the warranty will rub from when we do.

utopian99 Thu 13-Sep-12 18:40:28

Kate2 poor you, blood test sounds grim. I remember going to give blood once and they nicked the vein on the way out and i ended up dripping blood on the floor, saying 'excuse me, I'm sure it's not supposed to do this?' hmm

On a blood note, is anyone thinking of autologuous blood transfusion - or rather, the collecting just in case? Know there are (admittedly very small) risks from a third party transfusion.. It was in one of the leaflets the MW gave me, which is the only reason i ask..

I'm sure I could get someone to do the school run but I've not had any bleeding this afternoon so fx we're doing ok! Bloody scary though!

all the talk of blood tests going awry is making me feel queasy. Hope the arm improves soon kate

stacey definitely stay in bed now then while you can so that all worries are clear by the time your DH heads off

anyone considering the having the flu vaccine? is it really necessary? has anyone's MW or Dr even mentioned it?

I have the flu jab every year and will do the same this year. Never had any ill effects from it. Never had flu.

Stacey I'm glad the bleeding has stopped, maybe try get the school run covered tomorrow then it's the weekend?

envy at everyone's prams arriving, mine's still out of stock on the website.

Heartburn killing me again even though I glugged Gaviscon only an hour ago sad

NaomiRuth Thu 13-Sep-12 19:02:48

Stacey hope you feel better soon, take it easy.

Also very sore sleeping, dream genie helps but still very achey.

We went to John Lewis and decided to get an iCandy cherry, but we're going to look out for a secondhand one on EBay. Am scouring the listings daily! Very exciting about people with theirs arriving.

We're in the new house now, but it's been an exhausting week unpacking, sorting things and going to work. We can at least start buying nursery things now, although it needs repainting. DH doesn't understand why I want to paint it a neutral colour - it's blue and we're having a girl. I don't want pink but just neutral.

Hope everyone has a good night's sleep tonight.

Spotty I find rennies better than gaviscon tbh, maybe give those a go?

I find Rennies good for indigestion, not tried them for heartburn in a while it's hard to find the sugar free ones though. Wish I could have the yummy fruit flavoured things you can get!

Ooo dunno if mine are sugar free I've just got peppermint tablet things. They don't taste like chalk like gaviscon!

ellliebelle Thu 13-Sep-12 20:29:11

stacey hope you are feeling better definately stay in bed if you can get help with the dc's

I totally empathise with thoughs of you suffering whilst trying to sleep. I am fortunate in that i am getting some sleep albeit disturbed i also wake every time i turn over it takes forever to do and i can feel the back of my pelvis crack 3/4 times every time sad very painful. Also find getting to sleep difficult bump feels heavy like its hanging but also uncomfortable with a pillow under it sad

Has anyone managed to find a maternity coat (prefrebly on the highstreet) thats not rediculously over priced? Im feeling a little desperate with the sudden change in weather. Im a childminder and i walk 3 school runs a day ideally need somethingwith a hood so i dont have to carry a brolly

sadsadsad I've run out of Gaviscon <sob>

knottyhair Thu 13-Sep-12 22:04:44

Oh no Spotty! Is there anywhere around that sells it, a garage or Tesco Express or anything? I must admit, I just buy a bottle everytime I go shopping and have them dotted around the house.

HoneyMum21 Thu 13-Sep-12 22:52:00

i've got this coat it's not a maternity one but the shape of it will accomodate bump for a while (possibly till the end if i'm lucky) and will be good after LO is out and is a very flattering shape!

Secondsop Thu 13-Sep-12 23:26:50

ellie I've got a non-maternity coat that's military-style in shape so roomy around the lower half, and I'm hoping that'll see me through.

Secondsop Thu 13-Sep-12 23:27:51

Can I ask what pattern of movement you're feeling? I used to feel the baby more after I've eaten, but lately he seems to go nuts when I'm hungry and then be much stiller after I've eaten.

PurplePidjin Thu 13-Sep-12 23:31:18

Whenever I'm tired and want to sleep, Seconds - so late night, sparrow fart and mid afternoon if i want forty winks hmm

Nearest shop is twenty minutes away knotty I managed to get to sleep pretty quickly though so wasn't too bad.

second I think mine is the same as you. Can't really notice a pattern tbh but definitely getting more movement and some really big ones last night after them feeling more 'clickey' throughout the day if that makes sense to anyone?!

Six weeks of work after today grin

Secondsop Fri 14-Sep-12 08:58:31

My baby once kicked "downwards", if you get my drift, whilst I was in the middle of an internal exam with speculum in situ. I wasn't massively impressed with that, I must say.

FriendofDorothy Fri 14-Sep-12 09:07:58

I am having one of those mornings when I feel all anxious about everything. Baby was proper wriggling around last night but this morning I am wondering if I have felt any movement. I think I have but not I can't get him to move to reassure me.

Think I will wait a while before phoning midwives or anything though.

Secondsop Fri 14-Sep-12 09:12:21

friendofdorothy is there anything that usually gets the baby going that you can try, to reassure yourself? Eg a cold drink, something sweet, a bit of a prod? Hope all is well.

Queenofsiburbia Fri 14-Sep-12 09:19:21

friend my community midwife said two completely contradictory things to me about movement.
Firstly, they do sleep alot, (babies in tummies, not midwives wink) just like when they are born so there will be times when they seem very still. However, she said if there were worries, if I had really noticed a period of stillness to call the hospital midwives as they do not mind at all and will ask questions to help determine if it's just normal paranoia or anything more.

I am lying in bed feeling shocking with a temperature so will probably be quite active on MN today!

queen I'll be around too as had some pain walking back from them school so 'resting' again so bored

utopian99 Fri 14-Sep-12 09:34:43

spotty also envy about prams are arriving, naomi we're the same as you, have picked what we want from the shop but need to buy on ebay/gumtree and DH has said to wait till late October so we can get the latest version for cheaper as they'llhave been out longer.. arghghgh...

NaomiRuth Fri 14-Sep-12 10:23:23

I'm working at home today, seeing midwife for 25 wk appointment this afternoon. Just had new freezer delivered so now have all our new white goods!

Had a very interesting chat with a friend with a 15 month old this week. She swears by a TENs machine for labour. Thinking of hiring this one.

Does anyone have experience? Should I buy or hire?

Friend hope you get some movement soon. I get days like that too.
Hope those feeling bad are ok and can get some rest.

WeeJo08 Fri 14-Sep-12 10:24:49

It's Friday! Finally! Another really crap night's sleep and I'm so sore this morning. In more good news, I think the pregnancy heartburn has decided to kick in too! MARVELOUS!

Seriously, all I do is moan at the moment! Must snap out of it! Going on holiday next week so shall focus on that!

Honey That coat is really lovely - I might drop hints about it! It looks really comfy but flattering too - a rare combination! I like that it has a hood too because I think struggling with a pram and an umbrella might be tricky!

Stacey and Spotty Think I'm going to buy Rennies AND Gaviscon - do you reckon I can use my maternity exemption card?? <cheapskate face> blush

Queen & Stacey Hope the pain/high temp subsides soon and you feel better in time for the weekend.

knottyhair Fri 14-Sep-12 10:47:04

Naomi, I used a TENS machine with DS. It was brilliant for the final few weeks of pregnancy as well, when I had a lot of backache - I used to have it on every evening whilst watching TV. Certainly really good for early stages of labour for me, although I don't think it would've touched the pain later on, can't really remember all a bit of a blur have blanked it out to limit trauma.

weejo I seriously doubt you'd be able to use your exemption card unless u got them on prescription. The rennies I got were a pack of about 60 for a few quid. I bought them a few weeks ago as I average taking about 2 a day.

Trying not to eat fatty foods late at night helps too or whole big bars of chocolate

WeeJo08 Fri 14-Sep-12 11:28:51

Stacey Yep, you're right - just back from the chemist now and had to pay - HOW OUTRAGEOUS!! grin It was 3 for 2 so got a bottle of Gaviscon and two packets of Rennies and then went to Tescos and got some chocolate to cheer me up blush

FriendofDorothy Fri 14-Sep-12 11:49:53

Hah. Just be grateful you get anything free. I get no free prescriptions, so free dental care and I even have to pay to see the GP. I do miss the good old NHS at times!

Clarella Fri 14-Sep-12 12:15:43

<Passes queen a cold flannel and honey and lemon> get well soon chick.

That coat is lovely honey - I'm hoping a similar 'swing' coat I bought a few years ago, at the time thinking ooh look a bump will fit will work, it might be boobage that doesn't fit! Will have to dig out, its definately suddenly autumn.

Another weird blood test result, I was tested again for slapped cheek 5 weeks ago and had the follow up last week; when I went back to school after 20 week quarantine clearance there was a confirmed case and my collegue (in my class/unit) thought her daughter had it and as the hospital midwives confused me about whether it could be an issue past 20 weeks (basically much less chance of mc, but baby could still get sick), it being the last week of term and so would have no idea if any under the weather infectious child might go on to get the rash which diagnoses it and my uncontrollable anxiety which resulted in me ending up in hospital for palpitations (and general hysteria) I just had the test - as much as anything to be able to stop worrying about it. I had the follow up test to see if its incubated in the meantime has come back questionable, so another test in 4 weeks. This time though I am very proud to say I am NOT anxious, probably cos I know baby is bigger and stronger now (i'll be 30 weeks on Monday), plus there's only a 25% chance of it being passed on to him, and they'd be able to monitor him, worse case scenario is a blood transfusion. <stands back to wait for the applause at my calm pragmatism >

And I will be sternly re-reading this aloud to myself on my note pad later on!

Tens machine - my sister swore by it, plus it helps sore backs anyway so good if you're a bit tweaky. She only used that with gas and air in the end.

Happy Friday hope everyone survives and feels better soon xx

clarella well done on your calm approach smile you're right after 20 weeks there is a much reduced risk for baby. All will be fine.

Well I'm majourly bored of laying in bed but have had no more bleeding and no pains today so hopefully I will be back to normal next week! And tadpole has been a real fidget arse today so that's kept me happy.

friend pay to see the gp? Gosh that's rubbish! I'm so thankful for free prescriptions and dental!

cherrypiew3 Fri 14-Sep-12 12:34:17

Queen and Stacey hope you are both feeling better soon.

I am not feeling great myself today have been having what feels like period pains on and off for a few days now, but today I feel sick and very shaky. Have a scan on Monday and mw appointment on Tuesday so hoping they will put my mind at rest.

To make things worst have just got back from picking up my little dogs ashes from the vets and it has started me off all over again.sad

Have a hairdressers appointment this afternoon so going to sit there and enjoy being pampered.

Hope everyone else is feeling ok.

HoneyMum21 Fri 14-Sep-12 13:02:51

MIL countdown minus 4 hours. Dreading it. Dreading her telling me everything im doing wrong/all the horrible stuff that will happen in the first few months/everything she doesn't like about the new house (which will all be my fault)/how I'm looking fat/crowing over the fact thatshr and DH will share a bottle of wine and she knows I would like a glass... I'll stop there.

Hope all those feeling rotten feel better soon. I've got a stinking cold and thought I might get away with having the boots lemon and glycerin medicine as there is nothing actually medicinal in it- just soothes but the lady in boots looked very dubious...

crikey, i think i need wine, certainly brew and biscuit - we've just won the bid on a wreck of a barn in a Cotswolds village on the promise we'd be able to make the exchange quickly and smoothly. Although DH has done property before i'm a novice and seriously daunted and shock - we were the lowest bidder apparently but with the best story (local and expecting). What ridiculous timing, 12 weeks to go.
sorry for the me me me but i'm panicing

FriendofDorothy Fri 14-Sep-12 13:44:50

I share your pain Prunella - we have 10 weeks to get into the wreck of our house.

I bit the bullet and went up to the mat ward just to get checked. She listened for a heart beat and all seemed fine. She has asked me just to keep an eye on things and if he isn't moving more to call then again tonight. She was very nice but I did feel quite stupid to be honest sad

knottyhair Fri 14-Sep-12 13:45:56

Sorry so many are feeling rough, and Cherry, sorry again about your little dog. Have you got any plans for the ashes? Prunella, wow, I think congratulations??!! Brilliant news smile.

knottyhair Fri 14-Sep-12 13:46:51

Friend, glad you got checked out, and don't feel stupid, better safe than sorry.

Bellaboo123 Fri 14-Sep-12 13:52:48

Thank it's Friday...i'm exhausted and ready for bed!
Congrats Prunella and glad all is OK Friend LO does that to me and it makes me sooo para, i went up to EPU once and also felt a bit stupid being there but they were lovely.
Thinking of you Cherry that's so sad
Sorry to all of you feeling poo...i just think i'm generally sleeping badly now and accepting this is going to be the way forward...positive thinking NOT!
Well i've booked my 4D scan and i'm going tomorrow...sooooooooo excited! Will let you all know how it goes.
Roll on 5 o'clock i want to go home!!!

Queenofsiburbia Fri 14-Sep-12 16:12:27

honey I speak on behalf of the thread with angry looks and hands on hips at your MIL, she sounds like a nightmare. We're all behind you if you want to do a sharp retort. Use our combined grumpy hormones!

Some homemade Tomato soup with abit too much chilli to clear my nose <wowser! Reaches for water> is helping me. Decided to stick to 2 paracetemol in morning & 2 before bed.
cherry sad about your little doggie. That bit is very hard. Took me a few years to do anything with my dog's ashes.

Thanks for honey & lemon clarella super impressed with cool calm & collected demeanour. Very pleased your bean is having fun keeping you amused stacey, sounds like rest was essential.

prunella my parents did similar with both if my mothers pregnancies... Worth it in the end but don't be scared if being a complete diva/princess otherwise builders will arrange your living arrangements to save themselves the tiniest bit of hassle!

Mmmmmm new pot of nutella!

MyDaydream Fri 14-Sep-12 16:28:31

Honey I find saying "Oh do fuck off you mad cow" in my head while smiling politely at MIL saves my sanity somewhat.
I'm on countdown to in laws invasion on Sunday (MIL, BIL and SIL), we pick our keys up tomorrow and they're coming over to 'help' pack. If I get to the end of the day without telling someone to fuck off out loud I deserve a medal.
Prunella a glass of wine is definitely deserved, congratulations on your new home!
Friend Glad everything was okay at the hospital, no need to feel stupid when you were concerned. Much better you go and it all turns out okay than not go and there be something wrong.
Queen I'm coming round yours for some of that soup and some Nutella. My pot is nearly done.
Hope everyone who's worried or having pains and problems get some rest this weekend and everything is fine next week. I also hope we all get some decent sleep since we all seem to be struggling.

MaMaPo Fri 14-Sep-12 16:29:56

Hallo, can I jump in? I have been meandering around MN for a little while but haven't properly got stuck in, but then I read WeeJo08's post from this morning and realised that I could have written it myself - beginning to get terrible nights' sleep; pregnancy heartburn just arrived and I hate it already; but luckily off for holiday. Hooray.

Anyway, I live in London and I'm about 27 weeks (though I keep losing count). It's my first pregnancy and I'm enjoying it so far (except for the lack of alcohol - and the heartburn).

So, hi!

Welcome MaMaPo grin

knottyhair Fri 14-Sep-12 17:07:39

Hi Mamapo! Feeling your pain re: heartburn and crappy sleep!

WeeJo08 Fri 14-Sep-12 17:12:09

FFS - just went round to the doctor's to leave in the info for my Fit to Fly certificate (as I was instructed to do by my doctor) and the receptionist says, "Oh, how strange that your doctor asked you to do that, she's off on holiday until the 26th September."


Have left the info anyway and the receptionist says another doctor can do it but it would be just far less stressful if it had gone the way I'd hoped!! Oh well, I shall just be an annoying bitch persistent and call them on the hour, every hour regularly on Monday to remind them about it. grin

MaMaPo Hiya! Seems like we're twins! Whereabouts in London are you?

Prunella Congratulations!! Daunting, I'm sure, but still definitely cause for celebration! smile

Honey & MyDaydream Come on here and swear whenever necessary - we're always happy to help on that front! grin

Queenofsiburbia Fri 14-Sep-12 17:23:26

Hi mamapo. I'm looking forward to a gin & tonic!

Good luck all with in laws!

JoJoB77 Fri 14-Sep-12 17:25:37

Hi all, havent read thru properly so just a quick one..

naomi i used TENS machine while in labour with DD. I put it on, well DH did once contractions had started & i didnt take it off until after i'd delivered! It was a godsend for me, moreso in the early stages but it must have made some difference to the later stages as got by with just gas & air. I borrowed a friends last time, it was a Lloyds pregnancy one. This time ive got the same but 2nd hand off eBay. Would definitely recommend.

Re heartburn... Im getting it more frequently now so i will be getting a prescription from the doc when i see him at 30 weeks. Did it last time so i hope its still possible this time!

Hope all ok & looking forward to the weekend smile

Secondsop Fri 14-Sep-12 17:50:53

Welcome mamapo. I too am in London and 27 weeks.

Honey I don't envy you with the inlaws. My husband's inlaws are perfectly nice but he wants them to fly over for the birth itself, despite my protestations that i'm simply not going to want a set of houseguest's at that time. We'll see.

MyDaydream Fri 14-Sep-12 18:04:33

Welcome Mamapo, have a good holiday.
I'm getting a bit jealous of all these holidays and babymoons, although my DP has booked my birthday surprise which I think is a posh hotel and restaurant trip, so maybe I'll be getting one too, although he's giving nothing away.
WeeJo I feel bad bitching about the in laws because compared to some of the threads on here they're tame. It's just a total opposite up brining, whereas my mum took a step back and let me find my own way and make mistakes from my early teens, MIL is still a helicopter parent! She once came and picked 21year old BIL up from our house at 1am so he didn't have to get the bus the next day. It's a 45 minute drive each way! She then obviously moans they're useless and can't do anything for themselves.
Seconds I'd put my foot down for flying over after the birth, is he wanting them in the room or just in the country? MIL has booked 10 days following my due date off work so she can come over and 'help', it's not happening.

PurplePidjin Fri 14-Sep-12 18:10:16

Hello MaMaPo!

Good luck to all those with new houses i still remember am traumatised by moving into my "project" 7 years ago...

I went to a sling meet today! Was a bit worried it'd be full of tie dye and dreadlock types since it was held at the cafe attached to the Steiner school but it was lovely, and the organiser likes MN on farcebook so that means she's sound, right? grin

That sounds great pidj

This baby is still breech and I wish he would turn because I'm fd up of all the low down bladder kicks grrrrr

ellliebelle Fri 14-Sep-12 18:45:47

Honey i love that coat but well out of my price range sad also im planning that this time next year ill be 2 dress sizes smaller than i was pre pregnancy so hopefully anything i buy this year will definately be too big next year

MyDaydream Fri 14-Sep-12 18:46:31

Pidj Sounds great. I need to go along to a sling meet, I'm so confused by them all and my local one does a fitting and library service for a small fee, I'm going to do that rather than going just on what I'd read.
Spotty I've been getting loads of low down kicks, it shocks me so much because of the shudder that seems to come with it. Although he's a bladder kicker at night and getting closer and closer to my ribs during the day.

PurplePidjin Fri 14-Sep-12 18:54:27

PidjChick is head down, i just get head butted in the bladder instead. Plus kicked in the something that makes me feel all light-headed and wibbly... I don't think there's any escspe tbh

Definitely go and play, Daydream. I got to practise and some advice on making my own mei tei, plus meeting like-minded local mums is a big bonus for inexperienced me!!

utopian99 Fri 14-Sep-12 19:00:24

spotty our NCT woman said she'd heard of woman managing to encourage a breach baby to turn by shining a torch at the base of the bum, or putting a hotwater bottle at the base and bag of frozen peas at the top (?) apparently your LO will want to get their head near the warmth..

welcome mamapo I'm 27 weeks today as well!

jojo and any others who've done it before - how much does it cost to hire a TENS machine and can you do it through your hospital? Are they generally helpful, do you think?

kate2boysandabump Fri 14-Sep-12 19:11:54

mamapo Welcome

stacey and queen Hope you both feel better soon.

Friend I'm glad you got checked out and everything was fine.

A TENS machine was very helpful to me, it was the only thing I had for both deliveries other then gas and air. You can hire them from pharmacies and on mail order. I hired mine from Boots both times and it was about £25, This was 7 years ago though, I haven't looked into it yet.

I'm hoping my winter coat will go over my bump, it's a swing coat so quite roomy at the bottom.

Swimming for me today, with a selection of bald men hmm I hate getting out of the water now my bump is soooo heavy.

Bellaboo123 Fri 14-Sep-12 19:15:33

I think I've developed a craving for sausage rolls - I can't get enough of them and I usually HATE them!!! Anyone else?

Hello newbie - on phone so can't remember name sorry!!!

JoJoB77 Fri 14-Sep-12 19:21:48

utopian sorry havent a clue on how much to hire TENS but the 2nd hand one i boit was a tenner grin

I went swimming today too stacey. i was amazed at how 'unpregnant' i felt whilst in the pool but even more amazed at how heavy my bump was getting out! I must have looked a right 'un lugging myself out of the water, so not ladylike grin

JoJoB77 Fri 14-Sep-12 19:22:20

Sorry meant kate not stacey blush

Just had a really bad stomach with full on stomach cramps sad Eugh fed up today.

I might try a tens this time I think my friend has one I can borrow

WeeJo08 Fri 14-Sep-12 19:28:14

Think I will try using a TENS machine too - luckily a friend of ours just had her wee baby a month ago and she bought hers (she said there wasn't much difference between hiring one and buying one) and she has offered it to me for labour, so I'm chuffed about that. She's also offered birthing ball, Moses basket and other bits too grin All gratefully received! She found the TENS machine really took the edge off the pain....sounds good to me!

utopian99 Fri 14-Sep-12 20:01:04

jojo didn't realise you could buy them so cheap! Are any brands better than others? sounds like a winner..

Welcome mamapo!

Sobbing sofa for me, well after an afternoon pain free I picked dcs up hoping to get back to normal and had horrible pain down the right hand side of the bump (was only out of bed 20 mins) so had to get straight back to bed.

DH has been home since half 4 and has said about 3 sentences to me and tgrown a strop because I've asked him to sort out dinner as I obv need to be in bed if it's best for baby. He's busy fiddling round on his laptop downstairs and wonders why I'm upset when I've been stuck in bed for 3 days!!!! angry sad

FriendofDorothy Fri 14-Sep-12 20:08:10

Heheh my local hospital is on the TV. A new series called "Island Hospital".

Basically we are people spotting!

Secondsop Fri 14-Sep-12 20:42:48

mydaydream DH wants his parents in the country (not in the room. I would ABSOLUTELY do my nut if that were even suggested!). I think he'd like them at the hospital on the basis that they live so far away they're not going to share in as much of the baby growing up. But I think my feelings have to come first at such an important time. I'd like the birth and immediate aftermath to be just me and him and the baby, for us to bond as a new family unit. I don't mind people visiting for a bit after we've had a chance to settle at home but a day visit is a different proposition to a longer-term set of houseguests. My suggestion is that they come over in early Jan, when we've had a couple of weeks of sussing out the baby, and when I will feel slightly less like I've been run over.

There is also a part of me that is a bit proud and doesn't want too many people to see me in the early days while I flounder around beginning to get to grips with motherhood and telling me what I should be doing and how I should be feeling.

JoJoB77 Fri 14-Sep-12 20:51:54

Sorry to hear you're still not feeling too good. Rest is absolutely the only thing you should be doing right now. Shame your DH is in too much of a strop to see that sad hope you feel much better tomoro. smile

utopian i think i might have dropped lucky on the TENS i won on eBay smile

JoJoB77 Fri 14-Sep-12 20:52:43

My first paragraph was to stacey . i really am crap tonight!

HoneyMum21 Fri 14-Sep-12 20:55:06

She's just arrived 4 HOURS LATER THAN SHE SAID. I'm somewhat livid already...

gilsbubbles Sat 15-Sep-12 04:51:53

Been wide awake for an hour, very wriggly little one i making it impossible to get back to sleep. Hope this isnt the start of things to come.

Bellaboo123 Sat 15-Sep-12 05:18:11

Ive been woken by kicks too...feel excited though as 4d scan today

Clarella Sat 15-Sep-12 05:42:55

Channeling your frustration honey, sit tight and rant on here!

Ooh Bella exciting!

Someone asked about patterns of movement - I can now confirm I have a regular as clockwork 5 am party in my womb which then instantly leads to as much as 20 mins of hiccups (him not me). This has been every day for the last 10 days, though I only worked out it was hiccups a couple of days ago. Pretty much wakes me up (if not already awake) every time!

Still feeling guilty about my dinner last night; I inhaled 3 jam donuts barely being aware of what I was doing. Huge effort to stop there, had to double check there had actually been 5 as I only recall scoffing 2. DH was out, I seem to eat healthily when he's about but turn into a monumental pig when he's not! All his fault. There were two left...

gilsbubbles Sat 15-Sep-12 05:58:34

bella I'm very jealous about your scan, id love one, but since we decided not to find out the sex it's not really practical. Just seems like such a long wait from the 20 week scan to december to see them again :-(
My excitement for the day will be ordering the pram and car seat. This will be my first purchase for the baby and our feels like opening the floodgates

Oh Bella can you put a pic up later? The next hospital along from me has a 4d scanner and if you're lucky get it as standard, think they try and do it for first time parents.

I'm feeling better this morning after being pretty ill last night.

Sorry to hear about the ghastly in laws, I'd have just gone to bed by nine o'clock wink

acjfluff Sat 15-Sep-12 08:02:53

Wow 10 pages of new thread since I was

last here!!

Apologies for not reading them through. I hope you're all well.

Clarella how do baby hiccups feel? Is it obvious?

Stacey sorry you're stuck in bed but hope that you're able to be up and about soon (disclaimer- I don't know what's gone on but it sounds rubbish and that you're doing the best for your baby so your DH will have to deal with it)

Tens machine talk is very interesting, does it really help? I'm starting to think about the birth a bit now and don't really want loads of drugs for pain relief if I can help it.

So, this time next Saturday I'll be getting ready for my wedding! I wonder what else can go wrong in 7 days... We've had DJ cancellations (2), bridesmaid dress un-fitting and now my mil to be won't come hmm

All is great with the baby though and I'm determined not to get stressed so he doesn't come out a neurotic, nervous wreck grin

Take care til the next flying visit!

MyDaydream Sat 15-Sep-12 09:03:34

bella have fun today, I'm a bit jealous of the 4d scan we decided against it because we couldn't quite afford it.
acj hope nothing else goes wrong for you and you have a lovely day next weekend.
We're leaving to get our keys in a hour! Had an awful nights sleep and couldn't get bump comfy, then when I did woke up choking for some reason. My chest/throat still hurts this morning.
DP sprung it on me last night that actually SIL is coming over today at the same time as my parents, which I'm not happy about because she'll either sit with a face on all afternoon about not being centre of attention or she'll cause a scene. Luckily I didn't go buy everything for dinner yesterday or he'd have been going hungry to accommodate the extra mouth.

EggsMichelle Sat 15-Sep-12 09:47:16

Had a hectic couple of days, senior manager back at work and piled loads of work on me (better than being bored and enjoy the work, just a shock to my system) and DH laid up resting his knee (would rather he rest it and back in full working order from Tuesday) but my goodness I'm exhausted! Had planned to to have a long sleep in this morning, sadly someone was playing music in their car at 6.30 and I have been awake since. Think its about time I get dressed and crack on with some of this house work before I need another nap!

Had a bit of a window shop for coats, appart from that top shop one I cant find one I like, but can't pay that much (I have far too many coat and DH will not be impressed!) trying to persuad my sister to go halves on one, she will be 20wks when I'm due so she can use it after!

Sorry to hear all the MIL issues, wish you all had one as good as mine, slightly neurotic as she is scared of upsetting me, but that's nothing! I've even booked her in as baby sitter for an evening in February.

Secondsop Sat 15-Sep-12 10:54:06

clarella it was me that asked about movements. I've realised that now the baby is bigger he does seem to move more when he's hungry and then settle down a bit after I eat. What do hiccups feel like?

honey oh dear, I hope the rest of the visit isn't too painful.

As I am virtually bedridden with this back thing my mum is coming tonight to look after me as my husband is going away for work. I haven't watered the garden for ages - she's not going to be happy about that.

gilsbubbles Sat 15-Sep-12 11:43:19

well thats the pram ordered, and my local shop was also doing an offer so I've ordered a pebble and a pearl and saved £100. Figure it can go in the loft till little one grows into it.

EggsMichelle Sat 15-Sep-12 14:03:48

It's quiet today, everyone must be out enjoying the last bits of sunshine! I've taken on the challenge of the house (it's very grubby) and have disinfected all the kitchen surfaces (doors and all) and will be taking on the bathroom when I get off my arse! Keep looking at the spare room and the chaos within, then closing the door again!

Gils what are pebbles and pearls?
Seconds my parents are due back from holiday today, and hoping my mum will come look after me for a couple of days too, not that I need looking after!!!

I'm not enjoying the sun I'm off to the sobbing/angry sofa today sadangry

NaomiRuth Sat 15-Sep-12 14:47:11

acj Hope the wedding preparations are ok and you have a fantastic day next weekend. What an exciting time for you!

Handed back the keys to our rented house this morning, did a full clean and am now exhausted and can't move. Bending down to clean skirting boards gave me sharp pains, so I had to stop. Very frustrating.

Just been to the village fete and bought loads of homemade jam. Yum!

We've got sausage casserole for dinner - yum!

DP has annoyed me today, he usually works Saturdays but said on Wednesday he wasn't working. Yesterday he said he had to do a couple of hours this morning, he left at 7:20. 10 ish he phones to say it's going to take a bit longer but he will be back before 12. 12:20 he phones to say he has about an hours work left but can come home now and do it tomorrow. I tell him to stay because I dd was about to have a nap anyway and she will want to see him tomorrow. 1:20 he comes home. What time are you going to football? I ask, I need to leave at 2 he says shock say I, but kick off isn't until 4:30, apparently they have to be there super early hmm so I get grumpy because his game is the other side of Goodwood and by the time he finishes he will get stuck in all the Revival traffic and be lucky if he gets back to see dd before she's in bed. When dd wakes from her nap she asks where daddy is, she wants a cuddle with daddy etc etc and then starts crying because he's not here ARGH!!!! Excuse lack of punctuation etc I hate stupid football.

ISpyPlumPie Sat 15-Sep-12 16:46:22

Welcome * MamaPo*!

Staey, Queen and anyone elso who's feeling a bit dodgy - hope you are all better soon.

Gils - we had a 4D scan with DS and didn't find the sex, and have just booked to do the same next week for this LO. As long as you tell them at the start that you want a surprise they should stay away from that whole area. Some people thought we were daft paying for it if we weren't finding out, but for us it still felt worthwhile to see the baby in detail and the pictures are lovely keepsakes (had it at 23 weeks with DS and it he still looked v. similar as a newborn). I suppose there's a slight chance he/she might just be lying in a way that makes it completeley obvious straightaway but iirc they did a quick check before showing us anything. Depends how important having a surprise is and perhaps worth checking with them beforhand that they won't spoil it for you.

I'm another who got through last time on TENS/gas and air so would definitely recommend it. I hired it last time - think I got a deal which made it quite a bit cheaper but still wonder if it would have been better to buy one in the long run now I know I'll want to use it again. Oh well.

Just got back from a wedding - it was child free so DS stayed with my parents. Was at a lovely venue so a nice chance for a night away as a couple -think it will be the last for a while! Got loads of "December? really?" and "are you sure it's not twins?" type comments. Think I am starting to look ever-so slightly blimp like, but must admit by about the 5th twin comment I did mutter something to the effect of "well four scans say not!"

ISpy I think people actually forget how people people are supposed to be when they're pregnant and that it just tends to get more ........ compact (?!) as it goes along!

Bellaboo123 Sat 15-Sep-12 17:08:52

waves to all

back from 4 d scan, i think i've uploaded the pics take a look and see what you think! It was a lovely experience and they won't tell you the sex if you don't want to know. My little lady kept putting her hand in front of her face but got some lovely shots and a DVD. The whole experience was fab and i'd recommend it as a bit of a treat.
Posted a pic of my bump to - just wonder how it compares, i'm 27+4 today.
I'm with you on the bending down - i just funny pains or just struggle to bend at all LOL!
I hope everyone is having a lovely weekend.

Wowee Bella!! She is smiling in the bottom one! What a lovely bump, you look very tanned wink

Bellaboo123 Sat 15-Sep-12 17:23:03

Thank you...how cute (proud mum lol)

It's only a bit of fake tan to make me feel a bit more glam!

HoneyMum21 Sat 15-Sep-12 17:28:43

awwww Bella they are so cute. She looks like a real baby! Just shown DH the pics and he's ready to book us in now!

Bellaboo123 Sat 15-Sep-12 18:04:05

Thank you honey my DP was dubious but he got right into it and even had a tear in his eye! wink

NaomiRuth Sat 15-Sep-12 18:07:19

Bella they're amazing, I didn't realise how developed it would look! So gorgeous!

Aw Bella how cute! Am envy at your nice small bump though, I am the size of a hippo!! About double your size and I'm 27 weeks tomo!

Well today I spent the afternoon doing slightly too much walking at Hampton court blush getting back to the car was painful! But after a sit down and a bath I'm feeling ok again and haven't had anymore bleeding so I'm happy!

Secondsop Sat 15-Sep-12 21:26:00

Love the photos bella!

I too am about twice the size of you, bump-wise, at 27 weeks. I am on the larger side to begin with and thought the bump wouldn't be so massive in comparison, but I really am carrying it all in the front.

EggsMichelle Sat 15-Sep-12 21:54:42

Bella it's amazing how well developed they are at that stage, I still imagine mine to look like a lump of dough with legs! Even DH was impressed. Sadly I had a strop in telco over the price of sliced ham, I don't think I will be able to suggest spending that much on a scan!

My bump is also quite a bit bigger at 28+3, but think that's mostly made of food!

Mummycox Sun 16-Sep-12 00:53:01

Greetings all. Have managed to catch up, I think, with all your news and my was there a lot of it.

To those who have had bad times, the good are around the corner.
To those that have had good times, long may they last.

Have ordered our pram and have got DH to agree to the nursery furniture, we have a plan for what to buy when and have started to list out what to get at Christmas so no longer feeling left behind on the organisation front. Have also got 4d scan on Tuesday, 29 weeks. Probably our only chance so we are doing it all.

Have started to see feet/arms/sticky out bits over the last couple of weeks. Very cool.

Do like these threads... Makes me feel I'm not alone in this.

My bump appears bigger at 25+3 but I think that's because it's my second and also I'm pretty short so it's more round 'basket ball' under the top sort of thing!

I woke up early this morning with a sore throat/headache/slightly blocked nose. I'm pretty sure it's just the change in season will be worse when we put the heating on! Love winter though!

emilyeggs Sun 16-Sep-12 07:11:06

bella the pics are amazing! makes you realize its a proper little person inside smile
my bump is about the same as you so makes me feel better after everyone saying how small i am. Still I cant imagine getting much bigger, i'm already quite uncomfortable, especially after eating., its soup all the way now sad

emilyeggs Sun 16-Sep-12 07:20:28

ispy I'm also sick of people passing judgment on bump size! I think spotty is right in saying people just forget. Wish I had a good come back though, instead of just standing there having to justify my size.

I find 'oh it's just because I haven't had a poo in a week' soon shuts them up wink

knottyhair Sun 16-Sep-12 07:39:33

Bella, those pictures are amazing! Your bump looks great too! I've had lots of comments from "you look really neat" to "December! You're quite big though" from the cashier in Waitrose. I know I'm measuring correctly for dates so I just smile and move on smile.
Walked to my mum's yesterday to see my little 15 wk old great niece (gorgeous!) but a 20 min walk took me 40 mins blush and had to keep asking DS to slow down. Also had a bit of pain down one side of the bump when I got there but felt better after a cup of tea, a corned beef baguette & a cuddle with the baby. Got a lift home from my big sister as well.
Hope those of you feeling under the weather start to feel better soon.

knottyhair Sun 16-Sep-12 07:40:06

grin Spotty!

Bellaboo123 Sun 16-Sep-12 07:40:30

Morning all thank ŷou for all the lovely comments. I think thats right people do forgot, yesterday a women's eyes nearly popped out her head at the size of my bump I was close to telling her to F off. Everyone seems to think you're public property! I think the size depends on time of day and what I'm wearing too.

Bellaboo123 Sun 16-Sep-12 07:42:03

I say that too that I'm measuring spot on and it usually shuts them up grrrrr annoying people! angry

I think I must head people off at the pass as when they ask how I am I say huge! Lol then they say how neat my bump is instead lol. I do feel huge though. But I'm a firm believer that your body will do what it needs. I haven't put in anywhere near as much weight as I did with the other 2 so I really don't care! I know I'm never going to be a 'football up the top' kinda gal as its just not what my body does, but I'm as close to it as I can be right now (havent put on too much weight anywhere else) so I couldn't care less of people's shocked looks when I say I'm due in dec!

Well after all that walking yest I had the best nights sleep in the world! It was amazing! I still woke for a wee 3/4 times but had no problems getting back to sleep. And I went to bed at 9 and woke at 7.30 bliss I tell you!

Think I should start organising the nursery today. What with all the drama I now want everything ready just in case LO makes an appearance. I know that baby wouldn't be here/able to use the stuff if he/she turned up soon but I'd be happier in the knowledge that it was all done and ready.

I have just realised I left my washing on the line all night! Bloody baby brain! Oh well it will be 'well aired' won't it?! Lol.

I hope everyone has a good day. Thanks for the well wishes its nice to know people are rooting for us!

PurplePidjin Sun 16-Sep-12 08:21:22

I keep getting told how small my bump is. I've put on 22lb!! shock <waaaaah>

As pidj! I actually have no idea how much I've put on as I don't own scales but I know I have had to buy bigger and bigger maternity clothes this time in firmly staying in 12/14 and most of the weight is def bump!

PurplePidjin Sun 16-Sep-12 08:40:50

I'm in size 12 mat clothes with plenty of room left, my arms are a bit flabby and my face has gone round but i haven't changed shape elsewhere, but 22lb is loads, surely? confused

EggsMichelle Sun 16-Sep-12 08:42:27

Woken up to a very odd smell of burnt food outside (if you have ever burnt a chicken and bacon pasta bake it's that smell) its very confusing and quite unpleasant, do doubt my laundry will smell of that rather than Stacey's fresh air!

I've got the football up the top look going on, and since I was not a very big person, I get a lot of comments (plus I have put on close to 2st all on belly and boobs!)

Got the urge to start decorating today, I can do the bathroom without moving furniture?

I've put on nearly 7lb but I did lose a bit to start with for some unknown reason

Bellaboo123 Sun 16-Sep-12 09:16:08

Last time I weighed I'd put on a stone id but mainly bump and top of arms! Great!

I've decided to wash the new born clothes I've got ready to pack babys bag for hospital!

Secondsop Sun 16-Sep-12 10:59:39

I haven't put on anything BUT! BUT! was very overweight to begin with. I lost 6kilos in the first trimester, and have reclaimed 2.5 of those now. The doctor said that given my starting weight it was ok for me to stay the same weight. I have really been struggling to eat the whole way through.

I haven't been weighed at any midwife appointments apart from at booking.

I expect that I'll start gaining more weight from now on though now the third trimester approaches.

kate2boysandabump Sun 16-Sep-12 12:54:32

Stacey Glad you had a good nights sleep, it's amazing how much better it makes you feel.

People talking about my bump really makes me angry They wouldn't say it if I wasn't pregnant. My 'friend' this week told me I was massive and was going to be huge at the end and really laughed about it, I told her I was measuring exactly right thank you very much. Could really have done without it.

Seconds I'm in the same boat as you, I started out quite heavy and after losing some I'm now the same weight as I was. It's not the first time it's happened to me, with ds1 I ended up lighter after delivery than I was at conception. I only got weighed at booking in too. Anyone else been weighed again? I was never weighed with the other 2.

We have taken all of ds2's things out of his old room and put all the baby's things in. We are now officially calling it the baby's room and yesterday we built the cot, hell of a lot easier than the bunk beds!!!! We finished it and dh said, 'look how small it is' and it really is. So sweet and very exciting grin

Secondsop Sun 16-Sep-12 13:05:04

kate I'm a bit worried that after the birth, when I may well be lighter than pre-pregnancy, people who only really know me post-baby might say things like "I'm sure you'll lose the baby weight soon" sad

The cot we'll be using is one that we all used as babies! My mum has kept it for decades (my eldest sister is 40). It's a nice wooden one with one side that is adjustable. We'll get a new mattress etc for it, of course. The bars used to have coloured giant beads on them but generations of babies have broken them off. The cot also has bite marks on it from when we were teething babies!

It's ok to put the baby straight into the cot (in our bedroom), isn't it? With his feet against the bottom of the cot? Does one really need a Moses basket? I know there'll be an acreage of space behind his head so it'll look a bit funny but is there any harm in it?

Walnut8 Sun 16-Sep-12 13:57:08

There's no harm in it secondsop, but we ended up buying a moses basket after the first week of putting newborn DD feet to foot in the cot, and she slept much better in the moses (more snug and secure I think) and stayed in there for the first 3 months, so worth it for us.

Also, for those having hip and pelvic pain when in bed... I was told in first preg to put a pillow between my knees. I would wake up with terrible pain in my hips and pelvis and often had to take paracetamol. This time around I have bought a second very firm high pillow and drape my arm over it which stops me rolling forward on my pelvis/hips (which is apparently what causes the pain) and it's so much more effective. In fact I tried one night with a pillow between my knees and woke to same intense pain as I remember from last time. So a pillow between the knees/ankles isnt always the best thing, maybe, despite that I know it is often recommended. Hope that helps someone!

I am enormous, have put on loads of weight. I fit into medium size mat clothes, 12-14, but hopefully will not put on much more! I'm not eating huge huge amounts either, so it's a bit disappointing sad

Secondsop Sun 16-Sep-12 14:39:45

Thanks Walnut - we're borrowing from a friend one of those things that look like a duffle bag that the baby sleeps in, that can be carried or put on a pram, and we could perhaps try that if the baby wants to feel a bit more snug. We'll play it by ear - my husband was a baby who didn't like being constrained in bed so we'll see what the baby prefers.

I've got one of those Mum E Pillows for my back/hips and it does seem to be helping although I can't use it all night yet. I still haven't quite got the perfect pillow formation as even with the Mum E I need a little pillow to support my back as well.

PurplePidjin Sun 16-Sep-12 14:46:42

I'm reassured after reading that a person whose bmi is between 20 and 26 should expect to gain 25-35lb during pregnancy. However, baby is 6-7lb, plus a pint and a half of fluid... Where does the rest come from?!

Pillow between the legs twists my hips out of line and leaves me aching, if anyone has a cure for peeing every 2 hours over night, I'm desperate here sad <retires to sofa at thought that this only gets worse>

kate2boysandabump Sun 16-Sep-12 15:28:38

pidj extra blood, placenta, maternal fat stores, milk, bigger boobs. There's loads of extra stuff, it's not all fat.

second fine to use a cot, I slept in my mom's old cot from birth.

PurplePidjin Sun 16-Sep-12 16:57:34

Thanks Kate, no sleep = paranoid Pidjie! Dp's been out all day, came home and pointed out I'm wearing sil's size 8 maternity yoga trousers and a size 12 top that predates my weight gain/loss of the 18 months prior to conception blush

Bubbless Sun 16-Sep-12 17:28:59

hiya all, been soso busy towards the end of this week! looking to buy a second hand tens machine, what brands are good / reccomended?!

works been getting much better, i think everyones understood the other stupid lady whos having an amazing pregnancy jelous, much shouldnt need to sit down quiet as often, and i should be sitting down more!!

painted the babys room all white this weekend (it was florecent purple!!) ready for a colour to go over it next time DH is off of work, however- during the clear up operation our hoover broke... great!

sorry to hear about those feeling / are unwell sad

will try and check in more next week! (oh, and im pretty sure im huge for my dates sad() im the last one due on this threa (2nd jan!) and im bigger than 99% of the scans ive seen of you guys! sad

Just bought the babies Xmas present for this year...and next! hmm lol bargains from Costco that I just couldn't pass up. Also my mum is sorted for Xmas so that's my family done! Yay!

Babies rocking crib is now in our (re-arranged) room, and babies drawers etc have been sorted properly. The hospital bag is almost packed (or would be if I I'd bought it all yet). And when my mums down next week she's decorating it for me smile feeling much more prepared now.

We've got about 250 newborn size 2 nappies (from 6/7 lb) 25 packs of baby wipes. 1000 nappy bags (although have a nappy bin too so will only be used while out/with pooey nappies) enough clothes (if it's a boy, if it's a girl we'll need more outfits). My house looks a bit like a warehouse actually! Lol

I hope everyone has had a good day today!

utopian99 Sun 16-Sep-12 17:33:34

pidj I've gained 18lbs so not a million miles away from you and still in size 10 mat clothes, so i wouldn't worry. Have had all comments right from 'you still look tiny for 6 months' to 'wow you're getting big, if it's not twins you'd better lay off the pies'! angry

A lot of the extra weigt aside from the baby is maternal fat stores which should disappear naturally during breastfeeding I'm told..

Oh Stacey you're putting me to shame!

Do you think Derren Brown would help me have a pain free labour??

spotty I think I've been spurred on by the bleed thinking realistically this little one could come whenever. I'm sure it won't but I tend to be slightly dramatic! grin

As for derren brown, possibly. Apparantly there's a lot to be said for hypnobirthing. I think a lot of it is mind over matter tbh. With dd I was shit scared of it and fought it all the way along and it was horrendous. With ds I was much more laid back and let my body get on with it and it was still painful obv but nowhere near as bad.

Keep an open mind though. Don't think you've failed of you need pain

Well with dd I think it was just such a shock, I was only going in to discuss induction and had her a few hours later hmm I think Derren is the only answer tbh.... wink

I haven't even bought the pushchair yet, or the moses mattress! Also got a tonne of washing to do (baby thing) but figure I can do that once I start maternity leave?

I had a hypnobirthing CD last time but only listened to it once or twice, I just don't think it's me, unfortunately.

Of course u can leave the washing to do on maternity leave! I doubt very much I have finished rearranging and playing with organising the baby clothes. But to have it all a bit more orderly before we decorate is a good start.

(and DH did the moving etc of the heavy stuff so me and mum don't have to next week)

brooke89 Sun 16-Sep-12 18:47:55

Hello everyone haven't been on in months as have been so busy with moving house and sorting out redundancy. Just got back from a week in Corfu and am feeling refreshed!

Hope everyone is having a good pregnancy so far and all is well grin

Ooohh just wrote a massive long 'catch up' post and then I deleted it all. Grr.

In a nutshell - bella WOW pics are AMAZING, so so jealous. Wish I could have one. Your bump is lovely, I think I am bigger but definitely not as nice!!

acj eekk how exciting, really hope eveything does go well.

pidj a few weeks ago I realised I had gained 4lbs in a week and havent weighed myself since-far too terrified. I'm sure you're just over worrying and look great, it doesn't sound too much weight at all- a lot of my weightgain with dd1 was fluid retention that I weed out in the first week or so after labour!

stacey i thought i was organised and you're putting me to shame! I have most things but only 12 packs of wipes and nowhere near enough nappies.

GTT tomorrow, am currently stuffing my face in preparation of my starvation! I eat so much these days I physically don't know how I'm going to cope. I ate such a huge plate mountain of roast dinner earlier so I really should be full blush i did spend all bloody afternoon cooking the damn thing whilst amusing dd so feel i fully deserve it..

Oh and welcome back brooke holiday sounds amazing, glad you had a good time.

Secondsop Sun 16-Sep-12 19:59:44

Hi ladies, I got a leaflet through the door from Argos about a baby event ending 25 Sept - seems pretty good, savings of up to 50% off pushchairs, carseats, furniture, bouncers, toys, clothes, bottles and potties and monitors.

mwahmwah Sun 16-Sep-12 20:34:08

Just checking in, well impressed by the 4d pics posted on someone's profile (can't remember whose tho - duh)...
Bought dh an i-pad today, very excited, he hasn't a clue so I literally can't wait till he comes in from work and sees it sitting there! I just love buying pressies, esp cause poor dh is having a difficult time at work just now and needs an injection of happiness smile

PurplePidjin Sun 16-Sep-12 21:02:36

Thanks, Seconds, just bought £110 worth of car seat for £55! I was going to go for the £40 one due to skintness, your tip means we've got a (hopefully) loads better one for not much more money thanks

emilyeggs Sun 16-Sep-12 21:03:42

Bit worried, baby normally quite active with strong kicks but today the kicks are very soft indeed and sometimes quite a few hours apart! Anyone else had this? Don't want to over react and don't want to google sad

emily I had a day like that, just assumed baby was facing inwards or something smile have a cold drink and lay down for a bit. Have you had a busy day? You may just not have noticed it so much today!

emilyeggs Sun 16-Sep-12 21:21:35

Thanks spotty, not majorly busy but have been out and about. Think I can feel deeper more dull like kicks and further down. Normally they are high near my ribs and to the surface so you could be right.

Secondsop Sun 16-Sep-12 21:24:10

purple glad the tip was of help! I'll prob get a carseat from there too because thats one of the things you're meant to get new isn't it.

emily my baby sometimes has a less kicky day, and sometimes has a day when I'm sure I can feel his head pushing against my tummy so can't feel the kicks as they're presumably facing the other way. But if you're in any doubt at all contact your midwives who will check to make doubly sure everything is fine.

emilyeggs Sun 16-Sep-12 21:32:32

Thanks seconds, I don't have a number for a midwife but I guess I can call anti natal clinic if little one doesn't liven up. Do you all have a midwife assigned to you? I've only seen a midwife twice (once at booking and at 16 weeks) 20 weeks was a scan so no midwife and 24 weeks saw a doctor

Secondsop Sun 16-Sep-12 21:44:01

I don't have a midwife assigned. I've had a few appointments but with the obstetricians because I'm high-risk. The only time i've seen the same midwife multiple times is when I've made appointments to see the midwife who does a clinic at my surgery to get my blood pressure checked.

emilyeggs Sun 16-Sep-12 21:47:26

I don't think any of us see the same midwife, would be nice thought, as it would be nice to see a the same one at the birth.

PurplePidjin Sun 16-Sep-12 22:05:19

Imo, carseat and mattresses must be new (or carseat from exceptionally trust worthy source) everything else can be scrimped on - I've been looking at mei tai patterns all evening, and finally finished my fluffy bear car seat cover too grin

I've had the same team all through - main mw who is lovely, her boss when she was on compassionate leave plus to confirm the ectopic heartbeat, and a couple of students. Main mw will lead at the birth as long as she's on shift, although she strikes me as someone who might just show up anyway! <very very lucky> blush

emilyeggs Mon 17-Sep-12 00:54:42

Look like its going to be a long night of no sleep..........again sad

EggsMichelle Mon 17-Sep-12 01:55:25

I've had a named midwife, however she is on rotation so got a new named midwife, I like knowing who I will see and getting to know them.

Not slept yet, had the shit kicked out of me for the past few hours (you can see him moving under my skin). I've had a big bowl of cereal and hopping that will settle him down a bit, but I'm not particularly tired either, very odd!

Thanks for the Argos warning, the cot I've had my eye on is from there, I will have a browse of the website and fingers crossed I'll grab a bargain

Morning everyone. Sorry to hear of ahit sleeping. I'm still having to put a fan on my feet which combats my restless legs. I'm 95% sure it's psychological but I still have to do it or I can't settle! and then leave it on all night or I can't re-settle

As for midwives I doubt I'll see the same one at all throughout this pregnancy I never did with the others and for this 1 my booking in was at the local hospital. Then 16 weeks was at the children's centre. I only have midwives at 28, 34, 38 and 41 weeks (obv assuming I get that far) so very few appointments. I get 1 doctors appointment at 36 weeks too I think.

FriendofDorothy Mon 17-Sep-12 07:59:51

I slept badly last night and my back is really, really sore sad

emilyeggs Mon 17-Sep-12 08:28:40

I ended up on the sofa and was still clock watching sad

Sorry you all had a bad nights sleep. Dd came in at 5:10am then had a full on tantrum when I put her back to bed <sigh> Then when we all got up dp acted like a grumpy teenager (as he always does in the morning) FGS grow up you're a grown man, you have to get up in the morning!!!!!! angry

Friend have you tried a wheat bag or similar on your back?

PurplePidjin Mon 17-Sep-12 08:34:49

I have had one acceptable night's sleep all pregnancy. I current,y sleep almost exactly like a baby - in max 2 hour bursts. I'm getting fuck all except crochet done because i have no energy. And it's not going to get better, at least for a decade or so sad

Clarella Mon 17-Sep-12 08:43:32

morning, I too was sofa surfing from 4 - regular as clockwork seems to be when I wake, if I'm lucky I nap between 6-7 but for those 2 hours I'm super wide awake. Yoga woman said our brains are 'preparing' ..... confused

FriendofDorothy Mon 17-Sep-12 08:45:46

My wheat bag and I are permenantly attached I think. I am just really stiff at the moment. I am due to start ante-natal yoga a week on Saturday and I am waiting for physio so hopefully both of those things will help.

Secondsop Mon 17-Sep-12 09:03:21

Friendofdorothy I too am waiting for a physio although my back does seem to have got a fair bit better after a few days of bedrest.

Sorry to hear about all the bad sleep. Another one here sad

pmgkt Mon 17-Sep-12 09:11:44

I slept well last night. Think it was s combination of staying up to watch Downton and I have done my tax return and maternity allowance form also done last night. That is a relief.

knottyhair Mon 17-Sep-12 09:47:37

I went off to sleep no probs at about 10.30, up at midnight for a wee like a mule's, then slept on and off until 5, up for another wee then up with the 6am alarm. Not too bad in the grand scheme of things I guess but DP is at home today laying our lovely new hardwood floor which means lots of hammering and sawing so no nana nap sad. But hopefully a nice new floor!

Stacks Mon 17-Sep-12 12:00:08

Happy Monday everyone. Just spent a while catching up with all the weekend talk. Sorry to those having a hard time, I hope DH/P's start behaving better, that aches and pains go away, and sleep comes for all!

I've not had any comments on my bump at all, and still think it's quite small. I measured right for dates at my last check up, but will get measured again at 28w appointment (on Thurs).

WeeJo08 Mon 17-Sep-12 13:14:22

Hi everyone! Don't think I've posted since the end of last week. Had the best weekend EVER! We were meeting a friend and her boyfriend for lunch at a pub in Hammersmith on Saturday afternoon - instead when we got there I was totally gobsmacked to see lots of my friends...my DH had planned a surprise birthday party for me!! grin shock I was totally blown away by it all - I never suspected it in a million years and can't believe he went to all the trouble of doing such a thing for me. He is amazing smile

On Sunday he was doing a triathlon so we were up in Eton Dorney for that - he did fantastically well and I was so proud of him - took loads of photos grin That's the second time this year that he has done something like that and Shnarf (our name for bump) has kind of been there too to cheer him on! Although, at the last one (marathon in Paris) we didn't know I was pregnant!

Bella The scan pics are AMAZING! The detail is fantastic and your wee baby looks so...baby-like! That's probably a silly thing to say blush Looks well worth it to me! Is the DVD good as well? Is someone else having one soon too? Or did I imagine that?!

Sorry for all the sleep difficulties - I actually have slept well the last three nights....fingers crossed it continues! Had more acupuncture today so quite sore though.

What is a wheat bag?

Also, for those on the lookout for car seats - the Maxi Cosi Cabrio-something is on offer in Mothercare for £99 I think (or at least it was last week.)

Sorry for mammoth post!

Stacks Mon 17-Sep-12 13:49:17

I meant to say, I put up a picture of my bump on my profile, in case anyone wants to compare.

WeeJo Belated happy birthday, and well done to your DH for organising a surprise party for you. There's no way my DH would ever be bothered manage to do that.

utopian99 Mon 17-Sep-12 15:59:38

Happy late birthday weejo, sounds like a great one!

Question - I'm going to a spa for a hen do this Saturday and want to check what's safe. I know it's not great to overheat the crumb, but is say 5 minutes in a jacuzzi or steam room safe if i then go in the cooler pool, or should i stay out of the hot parts altogether?

WeeJo08 Mon 17-Sep-12 16:04:48

utopian I'd also be interested in the answer to this! We go away on holiday this week and the hotel has a hot tub/jacuzzi thingy and I usually spend most mornings some time in there. I was wondering if I could also have a quick dip in it. (I genuinely mean 3-4 mins, not the usual hour!)

Bellaboo123 Mon 17-Sep-12 16:23:43

my back/hips are killing me today too - ouch! Moody cow today because of it.

Stacks your bump is lovely - so cute.

Utopian i went to a spa last month and i was told categorically to stay out of the steam, sauna and jacuzzi. I settled with wallowing in the pool instead.
Also they won't give you a lot of treatments, i was lucky the spa i was at did some pregnancy orientated ones. I went for things like body scrubs, facial, head and shoulder massage etc.

I'm off on hols in a couple of weeks and wonder if I should be covering up the bump in the sun...? Is that right??? Very confused! Any help appreciated...thanks

minipie Mon 17-Sep-12 16:37:56

Stacks your bump looks a lot like mine (the top profile photo, not the stripey top photos, I assume they are from an earlier stage?) However I have had LOTS of comments about how big I am hmm. I am small though, 5'3, perhaps if you are taller yours is more in proportion and so draws less comments? I was bang on average measurements at 28 week appointment.

I have also been having a hip/back pain, on the left hand side - it comes and goes and is really starting to make me fed up sad. If anyone finds a cure please let me know!

Spas - the main thing is that your own body temp doesn't get too hot - personally I think jacuzzis are fine but would stay away from saunas or steam rooms as even 5 minutes in there can really cook you. Massage is ok as long as the person uses plain oil (some aromatherapy oils are a bad idea when preg) and knows what they are doing re preggo ladies. Everything else is fine I think...

Stacks Mon 17-Sep-12 16:40:33

The things I've found out from reading all sorts of places... I can't back any of it up with medical knowledge though!

Regarding hot tubs, steam rooms etc - be careful. Generally you want to avoid anything that makes your skin go red (including hot baths at home). The problem is your core temperature raising, so take plenty of breaks in a cooler area. It is up to you if you want to go in them really, just be sensible. I also think the biggest risk is earlier in pregnancy.

The sun - your skin is more sensitive to the sun just now, and you may find if you sun bathe you'll get patches of highly pigmented skin - sometimes these won't go after delivery, but mostly they do. You can also get irregular tanning and blotchy skin. It's advised to use strong sun protection in pregnancy, but again it's up to you.

Stacks Mon 17-Sep-12 16:44:35

Mini I'm shorter than most people I know, but not short short... I can never remember my height! Maybe 5'6? I think it depends on the clothes you wear really, I'm still wearing my waterproof coat from pre-pg, and it sort of makes a tent over the bump so you can't tell I'm pg at all (and hence no-one giving me a seat on the bus!), but other tops really seem to show it off. The striped blue top photos are from 17w, and the bump is lots smaller smile

HoneyMum21 Mon 17-Sep-12 18:04:37

Jealous of all of you with lovely bumps. I feel like i resemble a beached whale- DH says not and that i'm very neat, but he has a tendency to say things to make me happy!

Well, MIL left yesterday and i'm recovering. After arriving 4 and a half hours after she said she would(we didnt get to have tea till after half 9) the first thing she said when i had a cup of tea (earl grey, bought specially as she whines about anything else) ready waiting for her was '(tut) your mug is chipped. We told her we'd ordered the pram, but we weren't going to tell her that my mum had paid for it as we didn't want her to feel obliged to help out with a similar amount, but she kept questioning how we could afford it and then started on with 'you should of waited,i'm sure DH's grandparents wanted to buy the pram' (which had never been mentioned before) so we told her my mum had helped out and that we'd used vouchers we got for our wedding for the furniture.
We went into town on saturday,she'd asked us what we needed for the baby and we'd told her the things we hadn't got yet. She insisted on buying us a pack of rainbox muslins in john lewis (£28 for7) which are gorgeous, but not exactly a necessity and that money couldhave covered loads of babygros or plain muslins. Not wanting to seem ungrateful,they are lovely,but she only wants to help out with special things which will be noticed, rather than the everyday stuff that we actually need. We had to stop her spending £18 on a single sleepsuit in Jojo.
She did then get sozzled on most of a bottle of wine on saturday night (i had a very small glass and was given dissaproving looks),which madeher slightly easier to deal with but did mean she made even more inappropriate comments. Ugghhh.

Sorry for epic post.

Lovely bump Stacks!

What a nightmare Honey at least she is gone now and you have some lovely muslins grin

WeeJo a wheat bag is a, errr, bag of wheat that you can put in the microwave, much like a hot water bottle but with wheat! Your DH sounds amazing! envy still not got a birthday present from dp

HoneyMum21 Mon 17-Sep-12 18:30:04

She's coming back 'at least once' before the baby arrives and then plans to be here 'at least once a month'. angry she doesn't wait to be invited, she announces when she's coming and gets upset when we can't rearrange our work schedules around her. angry

PurplePidjin Mon 17-Sep-12 18:30:56

Honey, can you flog the muslins and buy a shedload of plain ones plus some Dylon? wink

HoneyMum21 Mon 17-Sep-12 18:31:42

hehehehe Pidj - what a good idea!

Secondsop Mon 17-Sep-12 18:32:54

What is this thing about coloured muslins? Are they particularly desirable? Why?

HoneyMum21 Mon 17-Sep-12 18:33:54

ooh, also,if anyone needs a laugh there's a great thread on here at the moment (lt's in 'chat' and also on the righthand side of the page in 'discussions of the day' about faulty babies... it's had me giggling for quite some time!

I like pretty muslins blush but Asda and Sainsbury's do nice ones for the same price as white ones!

HoneyMum21 Mon 17-Sep-12 18:35:33

Seconds - they are really nice and fun... just hideously overpriced for something which is going to be puked and pooed on and no better actual muslins than the ones you can get in big packs for under a tenner!

ellliebelle Mon 17-Sep-12 18:36:49

Honey i have seen those muslins and desperately want them but can not justify spending that much money on them sad weejo spunds like a lovely surprise party ive had a lovely relaxing 2 nights away with dh for my birthday this weekend. Did some shoppingbon sat got a maternity coat smile thenbto betty's tea rooms for an over priced bun and hotchocolate smile checked into our hotel then out for a nice meal then only got outvof bed on sunday for breakfast then back to bed for a couple of hours followed by lovely long soaknin the bath and massage from dh out for roast dinner and back to bed. Really missed the dd's but dh and i both said we need weekends like that more often smile not convinced it will happen witb 3 dc's smile

PurplePidjin Mon 17-Sep-12 18:37:00

I'm shock that anyone thinks £28 for dusters to wipe up puke is anything other than a complete rip off. I'd have taken the sleepsuit, though, Jojo has excellent resale value used!

JL will do store credit at least, surely, so you can go back in the sale?

ellliebelle Mon 17-Sep-12 18:41:54

Second [[ http://m.johnlewis.com/mt/www.johnlewis.com/231412326/Product.aspx pretty muslins]] cant remember who said itvbut have to agree that sainsburys do some really nice bright coloured patterned ones but gender specific so i will have to wait sad

ellliebelle Mon 17-Sep-12 18:42:33

Oopps [[ http://m.johnlewis.com/mt/www.johnlewis.com/231412326/Product.aspx pretty muslins]]

ellliebelle Mon 17-Sep-12 18:42:56

Arghhh i can never get links to work sad

ellliebelle Mon 17-Sep-12 18:57:11

Thanks spotty smile

minipie Mon 17-Sep-12 18:58:31

Oh how funny that you are all talking about those muslins! I have been looking at them today online, I really quite want some blush (I am a sucker for brightly coloured things). Wouldn't ordinarily spend that much BUT I was given a gift today from JL and am not very keen on it so thought I might swap for something else from JL. (is that evil?? the giver will never know). So in effect they'd be mostly free.

Off to look at the Asda and Sainsbury ones now.

minipie Mon 17-Sep-12 19:01:45

Ok am I being dumb? Can't find muslins on Asda or Sainsbo website...

HoneyMum21 Mon 17-Sep-12 19:04:33

me neither mini

Secondsop Mon 17-Sep-12 19:08:01

£28.95 for 7? reels in shock

ellliebelle Mon 17-Sep-12 19:10:19
ellliebelle Mon 17-Sep-12 19:10:43

Yay i managed a link

minipie Mon 17-Sep-12 19:14:25

Ah they're in George, that must be why I couldn't find.

Secondsop Mon 17-Sep-12 19:22:00

How many muslins does one need?

Can you buy muslin by the yard and hem up little squares?

HoneyMum21 Mon 17-Sep-12 19:23:35

My friend who can sew bought packs of the giant muslins from ikea and then cut them into quarters and hemmed them. I, however, am incapable of sewing so won't be doing this but thought i'd pass on the tip!

Oh yes if you're crafty, like pidj wink, then that can be done! Sainsburys don't have stuff online really but have loads in store they do some lovely bits especially good when then do their 25% off

minipie Mon 17-Sep-12 19:33:20

I'm sure you can Second if you can be arsed

emilyeggs Mon 17-Sep-12 19:40:06

Ha ha! I use to work in Space NK and to think women would come in and buy a pack of three muslin clothes from Eve Lom to wash there face with! And they were plain white and cost a fortune! grin

ISpyPlumPie Mon 17-Sep-12 19:43:56

Bella - those scan pics are fantastic. We're going on Sunday, getting really excited esp. about how DS reacts!

Honey - sounds like a long weekend!!

Weejo - how fab is your DH?! Have vaguely thought about doing something similar for DH's 40th (not for a couple of years yet though!) however chances of neither DC letting something slip by then would probably be minimal grin.

Bump pics are interesting too. Think mine looks a tad bigger, but not ridiculously so and would def agree that being short makes it more pronoucned. Am going to keep Spotty's response in mind for any further comments though.

Went to see the mw for bloods today. It nearly got missed as the mw I saw last time completely forgot and it was only reading on here about people having them at 28 weeks that made me check the appointment planner thing in my notes so thanks everyone[smile. Fingers crossed I won't need iron tablets this time.....

Hello everyone! I have been missing from this thread for a while because I got a bit dragged down with life and after being diagnosed with polyhydramnios (too much fluid around the baby) I admit I actively avoided thinking and talking too much about the pregnancy so subconsciously banned myself. Sorry for that!

Really pleased to see you're all getting on well and I'm going to rejoin if that's ok with you lot? My polyh has stayed the same and I'm having scans every two weeks now, it doesn't look like there's anything wrong with the baby but we won't know until she comes out and that's what I'm most worried about. I will upload a bump pic soon to show you!

So I've ebayed enough to buy my stokke, that took some serious ebaying. Moving on to the cotbed now smile I got a gorgeous moses basket in the mamas and papas sale a few weeks ago and have the carseat already as the dr seems to think she will come early, he has told me to have steroid injections to mature her lungs..eek. I mentioned making it to 40 weeks and he laughed at me and said there is no way you are getting to 40 weeks even if we have to induce you...more eek. I can't believe I'm in the last trimester.

emilyeggs Mon 17-Sep-12 19:58:57

Welcome back strawberry good to have you back and good to hear your feeling more positive.

PurplePidjin Mon 17-Sep-12 19:59:04


You'd get about 6 per m of fabric (45x45cm before hemming) then just tuck the edges over twice and stitch. Dylon is easy, just need a massive bucket!

Welcome back, Strawberry smile

Bellaboo123 Mon 17-Sep-12 20:25:07

Welcome back strawberry

Yay Strawb is back I was going to interrogate you on another thread wink

I know this sounds crazy but the last few days I haven't had any heartburn but dp (who never gets it) has?! confused not that I'm complaining grin weird though...

so relieved to see brook and strawberry back <waves>, i'd been concerned we'd not seen you both in an age.
happy belated birthdays weejo and ellie
lovely seeing everyone's bumps coming along nicely, i'm reluctant to take a pic of mine at the moment as it's almost always lopsided, i think i've got a back or a bum leaning against the right side of my belly! meanwhile something is regularly laying into my bladder, just in the last couple of days the toilet trips have become tiresomely regular and sudden.
pidjin i admire your home made muslins plan, even though i sew for a living and it'd be really easy to do, they're so cheap to buy that i can't bring myself to put in the effort blush, i am reprimanding myself already for my poor attitude but i'm going to put the time into clothes for LO instead

Secondsop Mon 17-Sep-12 21:00:37

If I do "make" my own muslins, I wasn't going to do a proper hem. I was just going to do a zigzag over the edges.

I originally had plans to make clothes for my baby, but I'm not really very confident at making trousers for boys, although i'd have no problems making little t-shirts. It would have been easier if I was having a girl because then I could have run up little skirts and dresses easily.

PurplePidjin Mon 17-Sep-12 21:17:25

Prunella, I'm envy although if i sewed for a living i doubt I'd want to do more at home!

Trousers are easy, loads of tutorials out there - think it's Made By Rae i use?

<ponders funky tie dye muslins>

<looks in despair at half finished dungarees and growing pile of crochet projects>

utopian99 Mon 17-Sep-12 21:35:09

strawberry good to meet another stokke fan!! We're eyeing them to buy (via ebay,) and i love them.. What's yours like?

Would love to get better at sewing - used to do loads of alterations/customising in uni, but not much from scratch. My mum always made us fantastic stuff, i worry I'll never live up to that though.. sad

cherrypiew3 Mon 17-Sep-12 21:38:46

Welcome back Strawberry

Weejo How lovely of your dh and happy belated birthday.

Sorry to hear that so many of you are not sleeping well.

Went for a scan today and so far she is growing well. We took dd (10) with us and she was over the moon to see her little sister wriggling about on the screen.

blush thanks! Hello smile smile

utopian it's mainly because we're both so tall it seems like the best pram for us and dd can ride on the buggy board without hitting her head on anything. We're getting the purple xplory with carrycot and I have the izisleep carseat too mainly because it lies back so the baby can stay in there for as long as needed. I am trying to get everything I can for the baby so that she is as comfortable as possibly (even though she'll probably hate most of it). I really want to get the sheepskin liner and winter kit but think I'll wait until closer to the time/after she's born. What are you going to get?

I also managed to book in at a sling library last week which was an experience. I have decided to get a caboo and dh wants a maitai (sp?). It was actually v attractive watching him try on the slings, is that odd?

Clarella Mon 17-Sep-12 23:42:34

Welcome back strawb! Glad to hear you are feeling more positive.

I'm gearing up to getting the sewing machine out in a week or two after more house diy - not really got the space and other more important things to sort first, but I hope to manage it. I want to make a mobile with 3d fabric somethings, not sure what yet, possibly birds (and some Xmas decoration presents at same time). Note the word 'want' not 'will' though!

I'm definately getting brighter and fitter again after some thyroid wobbling and tweaking. Can't believe a managed a handstand against the wall at yoga, not attempted nor felt able to do since 20 weeks. And I really enjoyed being upside down! (probably confused Lo who I think is mostly head down now!)

Has anyone heard of or done 'active birth' classes? Everyone keeps raving about a teacher who does it up here and I initially thought it was a funky name for the hospital antenatal classes and then someone mentioned a book on it too. Do you need to do the course or could get lots from the book?

Impressed you managed to get DH to sling library strawb, let alone even consider a meitai (sp?!?) My DH needs it to look very manly and is only interested in something engineered like a baby bjorn, unless the,pattern had something architectural on it eg the shard (there's a business for one of you!)

Fingers crossed we all sleep tonight! X

Secondsop Tue 18-Sep-12 00:38:54

clarella I love the idea of your mobile. I keep meaning to make Christmas presents with the sewing machine and i have lots of bits of Christmas fabric that thus far has been used only for bunting - maybe this year is the year I should do it given that I'll be broke what with the baby and with hosting Christmas, and given that I won't really be up for going anywhere in the evenings as the third trimester progresses so I should have some time!

Am goggle eyed at your handstand in yoga. Don't think I've done one since I was 10 years old, never mind 20 weeks pregnant!

Anyone else reaching the point where the baby seems to be moving loads? I can't sleep from the kicking.

Straw I've got to Caboo I'm excited to use it, it looks extra cosy for the winter.

Glad you're feeling better Clarella smile

I'm going to Ikea tonight going to start my Christmas shopping grin Kilner jars and presents for dd are on my list!

ellliebelle Tue 18-Sep-12 07:48:29

One of my close friends had her baby last night smile im very jealous. She had strong every 3 minute contractions on sat night so wentvin but was only 1-2 cm and waters intactvso sent home. Everything quietened down over night so sunday morning she altetnated between walking/resting she had a couple of episodes of regular contractions but not enough to make her go to hospital. Then her waters went last night at 11.45 got to hospital at 12.50 to be told she was still only 4 cm then he was born at 1.45 smile hope i have a labour like that

Welcome back strawberrywell after a good day yest I can barely walk today I'm so tired so back to bed for me!

Clarella Tue 18-Sep-12 09:08:20

Second, I emphasise I want to make it, dunno if will ever get to it! No one was more surprised than me about the handstands but given I'm a human weeble now I suppose gravity did all the work.

On that note I am extremely cross with my body, my bottom in particular. I have suspected for some time that it's jealous of growing bump and has been in competition with it. Just compared the two and bum gone up another inch but bump still 4 inches less than it, if my 'extra 0.5lb' a week is all for bum its a greedy sod and what's the point? Surely it can let me be an apple rather than the pear I always am. Then makes me worry baby not getting heavier.... or, have just thought, could my pelvis have widened yet? Legs looking stumpy too <pout>

Liking the look of caboo! - going to have to try a sling meet methinks.

Ahh lovely ellie!

Yet another woman raving about 'active birth classes' they do at the hospital here last night. I've missed the boat plus it clashes with my normal yoga which I absolutely refuse to give up, has anyone done/ got a book/ recommend a book? There seem to be a few. Anyone only used the book? From what little I know it sounds up my street, just wondering if I can get the basics from the book via library?

FriendofDorothy Tue 18-Sep-12 09:20:45

I have one of [[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Close-Parent-Ltd-CLBC180-Charcoal/dp/B0013NDZGY these] slings which a friend has given me. It looks super comfy and she used it all the time with her third child.

FriendofDorothy Tue 18-Sep-12 09:21:27

hmm try again.. here

spotty & Clarella definitely looks cosy and feels really secure on. I've read its not as good for older babies but I want to mainly use it for taking dd into pre-school and not having to lug the carseat as we have to park a 5 minute walk away. I think it might also be useful for around the house...and I have wistful images of us all walking through the Christmas Market near us me with baby in caboo and dh holding dd's hand, ahhhh....silly pre-birth daydreams where I forget how exhausted and grumpy I'll be.

PurplePidjin Tue 18-Sep-12 09:45:04

I'll probably go for a stretchy wrap to start (not sure on brands!) but dp wants a soft structured with clips not ties in non-flowery-tinkly-kitschy-twee fabric. Actually, that sums up both of our taste! But if he's going to take PidjChick off for a long walk in the Forest, he needs fast easy access for nappy changes. I have ideas involving shower curtains and pockets, too...

Whereas I'll need something cosy for around the house/popping out for a pint of milk etc where lugging the buggy up and down stairs would just be a complete pain smile

FriendofDorothy Tue 18-Sep-12 09:50:57

Pidj - have a look at the Close wraps. Definitely flowery or too girly and lovely and soft. Might be a good one to start with whilst the baby is little.

FriendofDorothy Tue 18-Sep-12 09:51:18

Not too flowery or girly I mean!

PurplePidjin Tue 18-Sep-12 10:21:38

I think I'm ok, because i can buy/hire through the lovely sling library. Dp is the tricky one! I need to stay in for a delivery today, might ditch other projects and have a go at making...

I'm sitting eating a packet couple of Jaffa Cakes

gilsbubbles Tue 18-Sep-12 10:30:11

I've been doing a pilates class for pregnancy which is brilliant. The instructor recommends a book on active birth, in fact she had I've which gets passed round when ladies are close to their due date. I bought a copy for myself from amazon...is a bit 1970s but really interesting and has given me some great input to my birth plan. If there was a class here id be keen on going. Book author is janet balaskas

HoneyMum21 Tue 18-Sep-12 10:59:14

We've got the baby bjorn (cheap off eBay smile ) for out and about and I want a cosy fabric one for around the house. Seen some good ones on ebay (from a company rather than individual seller) for about £20 which are a definite maybe. On phone at the min but will post a link later.

PurplePidjin Tue 18-Sep-12 11:23:48

Iirc, BabyBjorn are cheap second hand because they don't hold the baby in a very comfortable position...

here there was a thread on here yesterday talking about it, I think someone said they knew some physios that went away and researched it but couldn't come up with any evidence against them. I don't think it's any different from using a door bouncer/jumperoo etc but probably wouldn't use one for a newborn, personally, as I think they look more cosy in a stretchy wrap/carrier.

HoneyMum21 Tue 18-Sep-12 11:57:20

The baby bjorn we got cheap was one that had been a spare at the grandparents house. Everyone I spoke to who has had a baby bjorn -including a physiotherapist (and the people who own the 2nd hand kids shop in my town) all rave about th and wouldn't have been without them and have said the babies are always happy in them too.

That being said - I do agree spotty that they don't look as snuggly for newborns!

minipie Tue 18-Sep-12 12:08:06

It's the forward facing position in a baby bjorn that is supposed to be not great for their hips (as their legs dangle straight rather than being in a "sitting" position). If you only use it facing towards you it shouldn't be an issue. And personally I think forward facing as long as the baby is a bit older and as long as it's only occasional is probably fine too <no medical qualification disclaimer>

Heard a horror birth story from a friend who gave birth last week sad

Oh no minipie hope everything is OK with your friend now

minipie Tue 18-Sep-12 12:22:20

Yeah she's ok - now back at home and recovering and with her adorable daughter. Just a bit scary for me those of us still to go through it!

ellliebelle Tue 18-Sep-12 12:25:11

O no mini just rwad my friends birth story earlier in thread and convince yourself all births are like that smile im starting aquanatal tonight hope its good and hope it might ease some of the spd aches and pains also starting nct relax stretch breath on thurs so will see what thats all about smile

knottyhair Tue 18-Sep-12 12:32:09

We had a Baby Bjorn for DS and it was brilliant, and I've bought another one (secondhand but hardly used) for Rosa. Can't remember how old he was when I first put him in it but he loved it and was very comfy.

minipie Tue 18-Sep-12 13:01:28

was that the friend who gave birth in 5 minutes or something ridiculous? yup I want one of those please smile

utopian99 Tue 18-Sep-12 13:21:18

strawberry we'd love a purple one too, i also love the orange you got the v2 in, but they don't do the v3 in it. Given we're going the ebay route I'd be okay with a red or green one too. We have the maxi-cosi car seat already as I'd read so many good reviews, but know they do an adaptor. In your opinions in the carry cot essential as i thought the v3 seat unit also goes flat for new borns?

Went to the MW this morning to check that the stress work have put me under with their bizarre behaviour hasn't affected The Crumb, but he seems okay, which is a weight off my mind..
Given i have extra time at the moment am spending it painting literally the whole of a house we bought to rent out (has had to be entirely replastered). Looks like I've been walking through a blizzard, I'm that covered in paint!

Glad everything's OK utopian smile

I'm waiting for an electrician eugh. Be here between 1 and 5 apparently hmm

Glad little one is ok utopian. I'm going in this afternoon to have my bloods taken a bit late and a check up, was just having a walk in town thinking I shouldn't be in so much pain walking.

I don't think the carrycot is necessary at all I just can't help myself smile

Good thing about the maxi cosi seats is they are so much lighter than stokke one which is bloody heavy.

Bubbless Tue 18-Sep-12 16:18:52

i think i want a sling thats all fabric-y, but im kinda worried bubba will roll out?!?!

stacks your bump looks rather.. pert?! mine seems to be maybe a bit smaller but sagging?! (i kid you not, i typed that then got an almighty kick from bump ;) )

strawberry look at the silver lining, very jelous of you getting a scan every 2 weeks and getting to meet baby bean sooner!! but hope your okay smile

spotty its also man timings, so he could come any time in the next 5 days ;)

He came! but couldn't do the job as he didn't have the right tools hmm

I've put up my 25 week bump photo smile

knottyhair Tue 18-Sep-12 16:46:24

Lovely bump Spotty smile!

Thanks knotty I'm not that yellow it's just the flash hmm at least you can't see my fur wink

WeeJo08 Tue 18-Sep-12 17:10:52

I have my Fit to Fly letter!! Wooooooo!!!

Secondsop Tue 18-Sep-12 17:37:57

Lovely neat bump spotty, and are you completely devoid of stretchmarks?!

Good work on the fit to fly letter weejo - you're a braver woman than me as I can't imagine wanting to fly at this stage!

Yay WeeJo!

No I'm not I still have ones from last time but they're still white/silver at the moment. They didn't appear until I was about 34 weeks though!

Secondsop Tue 18-Sep-12 17:45:39

My sister told me that one of her friends had no stretch marks until she actually commenced labour , at which point they appeared from nowhere.

Yeah sometimes they don't appear until afterwards!!

Secondsop Tue 18-Sep-12 17:53:16

Afterwards? sad

On another note, I've developed what I can only describe as an occasional solitary hiccup.

EggsMichelle Tue 18-Sep-12 17:55:37

Welcome back Strawberry, keep up the positive mind!

I'm quite behind as usual with the forum reading, I've been engrossed in knitting! I have bought a pack of plain muslins off eBay and dylon dye, ready to get creative! I hate that white cloths go grey so bright coloured ones should look nice for longer.

I found this on a random google search make your own mei tai and have big plans to getting the sewing machine out for this project. Also want to make a new cover for the Moses basket, it's very flouncy and frilly at the moment!

Had my GTT this morning, far too much lucozade and needles, even for my high needle tolerance, if I have not heard anything by tomorrow afternoon then I'm all clear, whoopi!

11 weeks to go and must get into action, need to decorate three rooms, knit two jumpers and two blankets, I'm panicking!

EggsMichelle Tue 18-Sep-12 17:56:41

I don't have stretch marks yet, but my belly is covered on thread veins, gross!

Oh I get those massive random hiccups too!

PurplePidjin Tue 18-Sep-12 18:07:55


I'm halfway through my version of this one for dp. One shoulder clip, denim straps, upholstery weight velvet front, fleece lined. I'll pop a pic up when I'm done if you like?

No stretch marks yet, but yes to the random hiccy burp things - can be quite painful

MyDaydream Tue 18-Sep-12 18:30:14

I've barely had chance to lurk over the last few days, not even been busy really but everything is taking so long because my back and bump hurt. I've now put my back out opening the dishwasher so I'm sofa bound. I was meant to be staying at my mums tomorrow so I could avoid MIL and go to Ikea on Thursday so hopefully it's a bit better tomorrow.
Bella the 4d photos look amazing. Looking at everyones bump pictures everyone seems bumpier than me, although it's probably just my imagination.
Welcome back Strawberry.
No stretch marks here yet, although talking to my mum she never got any with me so I'm hoping we have amazing genes and I won't get any!

Bellaboo123 Tue 18-Sep-12 18:36:43

spotty lovely bump!
Lower back is aching today just tried a bath to ease it but hasn't done a thing...any other recommendations welcome.
weejo yay on the fit to fly - I'm off at the end of the month so will ask midwife for one on Friday when I see her.
28 weeks today OMG!!! I remember us all saying we couldn't wait to get to 12 weeks...how time flies!!!

Secondsop Tue 18-Sep-12 18:43:18

I'm glad the random solitary hiccups appear to be entirely normal!

JoJoB77 Tue 18-Sep-12 18:43:21

Hi all

Hope everyone is well smile

I managed to get all the way thru last pregnancy without a single stretchmark, then two appeared after i'd had her hmm so i'm fully expecting the same to happen again. Just hope its not much more than two grin

Well DD had a sickness bug which she has passed onto me sad Had a vile day of it yesterday but think im starting to feel a bit better now. I still cant face any food but need to try & eat something later.

Baby has been moving/kicking as normal so i am hoping he or she hasnt been affected by it all confused. I spoke to mw this morning & she just advised calling gp as there was nothing they could do. Fair enough but no rrassurance or anything sad

Tomoro will be a better day, repeat until believe....grin

HoneyMum21 Tue 18-Sep-12 18:55:35

MW for me tomorrow for bloods and first measurement. (she wouldn't measure me last time at 24+3 because guidelines say to start measuring at 25...!)

Gonna ask her about movement too- getting strong movements fairly regularly now but still not convinved i'm feeling actual kicks. It more like a wriggling baby than a kicky one.

Still got a stinking cold too and very chesty cough so feeling sorry for myself.

honey as long as baby is moving I think actual kicks don't really matter. I get less kicks now baby is growing but more movement iykwim. But if you're worried def check with mw.

My next appointment is next Monday at 28 weeks eeek I can't believe we're only 3 months away. Daily it goes so slowly but looking back its gone really quick! Lol

How close to flying do I need to get my fit to fly letter? I'll be 32 weeks when we fly (26th oct) but have no appointments booked after Monday. I assume I can't get 1 at Monday's appointment for then can I?

Have spent today in bed as I felt knackered this morning. So ATM I can manage 2 days of activity in one hit then I need to rest hmm

I also get the random hiccup, I think it's wind related hmm

Mummycox Tue 18-Sep-12 19:32:03

Had our 4d scan, amazing experience. He was kicking away then blew us a kiss, turned over and went to sleep. shall attempt to put photos on profile.

28 week appointment tomorrow, at 29 weeks... :-s

Can I just direct you all to a thread over here

Very worthy cause for a lovely little girl who was born at 27 weeks. If we can all just donate £1 that'll help them on their way to her operation.

Sorry for hijack!

spotty your bump is lovely! How is everyone not covered in stretchmarks, very envy And also very hmm at the useless male!

honey good luck at MW tomorrow, got mine too. At my 24 week they said they didn't measure at 24 weeks but I made her! ha. Was measuring 27 I think so it will be interesting to see what she says tomorrow.

good luck eggs though sure it's all good.. I had mine yestrday and haven't heard anything today so think I'm al good. It was horrible, starving hungry to the extent of feeling really queezy- then another lady continuously projectile vomited all over the waiting room- the smell was awful, as much as I felt really sorry for her, the rest of us had to leave the room!

Great British Bake Off now... Mmmmm .. making me want cake EVEN more than usual!!

minipie Tue 18-Sep-12 20:27:38

shock at stretchmarks appearing during or even after labour... nooooo!

I don't have any yet <touches wood>. My mum didn't get any despite putting on half her own body weight, and I am a similar size and shape and have similar skin, so hoping I will avoid them.

I had my GTT the week before last (due to PCOS) - all clear hooray! The test is not much fun, I don't have a needle phobia but I found it quite hard to drink all that fizz quickly on an empty stomach. Not surprised someone vomited Cookies. Good luck eggs!

I do have low iron though so am having to guzzle Spatone. but at least I'm allowed something sweet to take the taste away grin

Clarella you were asking about books on active birth, I have seen this one recommended on another thread. I'm reading Maggie Howell's book on natal hypnotherapy, it's not about active birth exactly but has quite a lot of similar stuff in it I think (basically all about following your instincts)

Had mw appointment and she measured my bump at just below 50th centile which is very confusing with regards to all the extra water and big baby!?!? Hopefully that means come next Monday everything will be back to normal!

I loved my hypnotherapy cd for getting ready for the birth and going to start listening to it again soon, I've completed my labour playlist for ipod too which is looking lovely smile last time I listened to it lots before I went into labour then when I was in labour it was a big comfort because it was familiar. I'm thinking of taking dd's favourite bear in with me but slightly worried they might think I'm a bit crazy clutching a teddy in labour.

Really want to see the pics of your mei-tai when it's done pidj it sounds very fancy. Dh will happily wear pink and lilac (he is 6"4 and built like a rugby player so gets away with it...come to think of it that may be why I'm having a big baby with lots of water) so he is happy with what I pick which is quite a relief as I do have a tendency towards princessy colours!

I'm with you on the day on/day off Stacey today was rather productive but I know tomorrow I'll be knackered.

CODwidow Tue 18-Sep-12 22:08:44

Evening everyone smile Glad I'm not the only one having the random hiccup here and there. After being quite still all day bump has decided to wake up just as I've got into bed, she is always quite active in the evenings which is the same as my last ds was. It was great when he was small as the pattern stayed and he'd feed all evening then sleep well through the night so hopefully this means only good things grin

Mw appt in a week when I'll be 1 day off 29wks very scary that then I'll be heading into the 30 week appts when things really do seem to become real.

I'm making the most of things at the mo as bump is rapidly getting to the stage of limited movement and struggled to put my own socks on today but I know soon I won't actually get them on at all!

PurplePidjin Tue 18-Sep-12 22:16:44

Strawberry, it's very simple and plain! Going to take it to the next sling meet and see if i can test it with the weighted dolly

30 weeks on Friday shock

NaomiRuth Tue 18-Sep-12 22:42:42

Clarella I also have the Janet Balaskas book on active birth, plus one by her on preparing for birth with yoga. It sounds very sensible, all about using the optimum positions during labour for using gravity and for best position of the pelvis. Obviously some people aren't able to move around so it depends on how things are going, but makes a very strong case for it. I've been doing some yoga at home and hoping to adopt this (all being well). But obviously I've no experience!

Feeling slightly guilty though as haven't had nearly enough time to do all these grand plans for yoga etc... and wondering how on earth to find the time... If only I could stop work now!

Has anyone got any good recommendations of maternity pyjamas that will also be good for breastfeeding?

Hope everyone has a good night's sleep.

utopian99 Wed 19-Sep-12 01:12:24

Am tired from 5 hours of painting but DH is away on business so can't be bothered to go to bed alone. sad lurking watching late night repeats of grand designs with the kittens instead, and finding the Small One's kicking strangely comforting..

Have donated on your link stacey, do hope they hit their target asap, very easy to worry about similar things, given Crumb is 27+4.

strawberry have bought the Mongan method hypno book/cd, but not started practising yet.. Did it help you last time? We did pain relief methods in our NCT class today, but only epidural/diamorphine/pethidine/entonox and water births - hypnosis is next week... Currently liking the sound of hypno + entonox + acupuncture and try to avoid the others (unless it all gets too hardcore in the heat of things!) They've said i might not be able to have an epi anyway, due to spinal problems..

I went to Ikea last night to have officially started my Christmas shopping! Got dd a children's table and chairs (been looking for one for ages) for £17, a load of kilner jars and a few other bits and bobs. Very excited.

AND I just bought some boots from Dorothy Perkins, 20% off today and I had a £20 gift card grin

FriendofDorothy Wed 19-Sep-12 07:53:50

GTT testing this morning. I am bloody starving!

Clarella Wed 19-Sep-12 08:10:06

Morning! Limited sleep again but feel ok so far... best thing is bump v active, I'd been a bit worried as I'd felt so little for 2 days. I think it must be how they lie honey, small wriggles is all I felt . Sometimes DH feels a kick that I don't.

Hope you feel better soon jojo and honey. Anyone thinking about flu jab this year as its been a ridiculous year for lots of viruses etc?

Hope all ok utopian and you're not too stressed thanks

Thanks for the active birth book recommendations, another close friend described the classes the woman runs in more detail, she's an ex primary school teacher now dance/active birth/yoga/nct teacher and the classes sound like music and movement. (Good but can get from books) I'm feeling confident enough in my yoga now to work out some routines at home mixed in with some Capoeira stuff which is mostly squatting to off key tuneless songs in Brazilian about sailors and fish. Again, note 'work out' rather than 'do'! maybe writing it here will force me to fulfil my intentions! But I reckon those books will help, get good reviews on Amazon. Tbh a bit of squatting/horse pose is probably a good idea to strengthen legs? Have also decided to hire a tens from boots. (yup, being 30 weeks is making me panic focus a little more!)

Gritting teeth for both consultant and several builders today, mammoth cooking session too as Mil and Fil coming to stay for 5 nights to help us paint/strip lots of stuff.

Clarella Wed 19-Sep-12 08:13:15

Not gritting teeth at m/fil though, they're lovely.

knottyhair Wed 19-Sep-12 08:15:08

Good luck to all those with GTTs and MW appts today. Jojo, that sounds horrible, hope you feel better today and manage to eat something.

Stretch marks wise, I was another one who thought I'd got away with it with DS, nothing all the way through pregnancy (Mum was the same so I felt very smug & sure) then about 3 arrived after I gave birth. Nothing so far this time but only 26 wks so relatively early days.

I too am having trouble getting my socks & shoes on blush.

I have stretch marks, my dsis and mum didn't get any so I must have got the bad stretchy genes from my Dad's side! Mine are mostly silver now from last time but I'm sure in a few weeks I'll have some more to join them!

Ooh spotty are you pickling?

utopian I'm not sure of the name as it's on my itunes now and is just called 'birthing hypnotherapy' it was in a white case with pink writing on. I definitely found it helped me, I was really in the zone when giving birth and felt really calm, hopefully it'll be exactly the same this time! I had gas and air and pethidine and they both helped although my last lot of pethidine was given about 20 mins before she came out (they didn't realise how quickly I was dilating) she was fine but I was a bit out of it.

I'm doing:

Spiced apple chutney
Chilli jam
Jumbleberry jam
Body scrub
Layered brownie mix


HoneyMum21 Wed 19-Sep-12 08:41:13

Oooh Spotty jumbleberry jam sounds interesting. (I'm a sucker for a good name for something- there's a shop near me that does traffic jam which is layered strawberry, apricot and gooseberry!) I wish I was a domestic goddess. I am considering making Christmas cakes to take to relatives this year but doubt I'll get round to it!

I am far from a domestic goddess! Luckily my friend is a great cook and we are doing it together!

That all sounds lovely!!!!

If you need a Christmas cake recommendation Nigella's christmas cake with prunes and chocolate is beautiful, you can't taste the prunes (but the side effects to them may be useful to us around Christmas time). I bloody love Christmas recipes.

Had to get up early to take DH to work this morning sad I am not feeling it tbh, I'm knackered and it's not even 9am yet!!

I had an awful nights sleep to was just sooo uncomfy and so thirsty (which obv led to 7-8 bathroom trips during the 6hrs I slept)

Had a stranger touch my bump today angry well I kinda know who she is (nutter mother of a child in ds's class) but I don't even know her name. Apparantly it's ok to touch a random woman's stomach and ask when it's due and what number baby it is hmm the look on my face made her stop pretty sharp ish tbh!

HoneyMum21 Wed 19-Sep-12 09:00:46

Ooh stacey I would probably have belted her the mood I'm in at the moment. DH told his mum on no account to try to touch the bump and that was the first thing she did when she arrived anyway- she's lucky I was too shocked to take a swing! (I'm not usually a violent person...!)

PurplePidjin Wed 19-Sep-12 09:03:49

I've only had friends touch mine, and kind of an extension of a normal hug - a brief pat/stroke to say hi to the baby seems ok to me. Some total random poking and prodding would endanger lives angry I'm not surprised you wanted to thump her, Stacey!

My step mum touched my bump and mil. I hate it. But I hate all touchy feely things I'm just one of those people grin

Hope all tests etc go well today.

I have to go and get petrol (20 minutes is the closest one and can't go on the way to work tomorrow because there isn't one angry)

minipie Wed 19-Sep-12 09:22:27

I think I'm unusual but I don't really mind people touching my bump, even if they are people I don't know well... I agree it's rude though if they don't ask first but I still don't really care. I was fascinated by bumps before I was pg and so I can understand the urge!

Mini I normally don't mind even dcs teachers have had a feel but I think lack of sleep swayed my judgement and the fact that I have never had the bump touched by a stranger before! It did make me slightly stabby!

Does anyone fancy sorting my mountain of clean washing out? I really cba!

HoneyMum21 Wed 19-Sep-12 09:37:20

The concept of being 'slightly stabby' just made me laugh and choke on my tea!

PurplePidjin Wed 19-Sep-12 09:42:27

Pic of mei tai now on profile

WeeJo08 Wed 19-Sep-12 09:43:54

Morning! 28 week MW appointment today - think I get bloods taken, can't remember what for though. We fly home today - we're there until Saturday then fly off to Spain for a week. Fingers crossed no probs at the airport with my Fit to Fly letter! I have also printed off all the info from their website plus the response we got from their Customer Service telling us that they DON'T require a certificate - want to cover all bases!!

Re: bump touching, I'm not a massive fan either...saw on another thread someone has a t-shirt saying, "If you're not the man who put it in there, or the person who's going to take it out, don't f**king touch it!" Which I found very funny but perhaps not suitable for all occasions!!

Spotty What is the brownie layer mix? And how do you make your chilli jam?

Good luck to everyone with appointments today.

Clarella Wed 19-Sep-12 09:46:30

Gah! Cross with DH for forgetting to lock back door and social skill-less electrican wandered in as I was waddling naked to bathroom - luckily didn't see me but gave me a fright. He's the one who ripped up the ancient carpet and underlay in the study/ store room polluting covering pram, computers and work in ancient gritty dust. He's supposed to have turned up the last 5 days giving fore warning on the phone but apparently had lost my number. Today is the day I've gotta cook a zillion things (plus I'm out of practice) and he's in the kitchen grrr. Well he will have to put up with woman's hour at full blast, lets hope they discuss hormones, nesting and some gore about prolapses or something. I'm going to put an out of order sign on the loo upstairs too, the down stairs one is fine and I don't want anyone up stairs anymore! <is this the rage?!>

Family and close friends are more than welcome to have a feel (as I do like to touch other bumps ) .. Strangers NO! angry

brownie mix

chilli jam

Just how casual can one go to the evening do of a wedding? We've got one on Friday and, tbh, I just want to wear a stretchy cotton top/dress with leggings a boots confused I hate dressing up when I'me not pregnant and I really don't want to be feeling all uncomfortable in a maxi dress!

and boots*

Sounds good to me spotty! I think dressing up rules differ when you're pregnant anyway wink

Honey sorry for making you choke! It's a great expression I've picked up from mn! grin

Good luck for all appointments today!

Clarella Wed 19-Sep-12 10:00:53

I feel distinctly stabby. Shame I've got to chop a lot if veg in the same vicinity as stabby instigator.<Hitchcock violins>

HoneyMum21 Wed 19-Sep-12 12:13:28

Just seen midwife. Usual one was on holiday so had a lovely lovely stand in - it makes such a difference having a nice one who answered questions without making me feel stupid or like I was wasting time. Measuring pretty much spot once dates. Trainee tried to do bloods but missed the vein so feel like a pin cushion now!

Secondsop Wed 19-Sep-12 12:18:03

honeymum I have very small deep veins so whenever someone who is not used to taking blood is about to do it, I always say "I've got difficult veins - don't feel you have to keep trying if you'd rather I went to phlebotomy instead" to try to reassure them that it's me not them,
and also to try to minimise the scratching around! When I went for my last scan the sonographer asked if he could take blood for a research study, and I was fine with it but warned them about my veins, and he took one look at my arms and said "let's not bother"!

pmgkt Wed 19-Sep-12 12:23:34

25 week mw appointment today, waste of time really but ds likes to hear the heartbeat so that is worth it. She is referring me to vbac nurse to plan out my vbac given I had a long induced labour last time so will be a bit more informed of worst case situation.

EggsMichelle Wed 19-Sep-12 12:28:44

Well it's good timing I have just baked brownies, so all you "stabby" ladies can relax and indulge in chocolate. Got my 28wk appointment then making banana loaf, I hate bananas but froze loads DH hadn't eaten and colleagues need treats at work tomo!

I would not appreciate a strange touching my belly, that's as bad as ass and boob grabbing grin

MyDaydream Wed 19-Sep-12 12:37:07

spotty jealous of you going to Ikea, I was meant to be going tomorrow but don't think my back will be better so my mum is bringing her adorable dog over for cuddles to cheer me up instead! Spotty can you wear a stretchy, comfy dress to the wedding but dress it up with jewellery?
Purple I love the sling, will be very cute with baby in it. How long did it take you would you say? Just as an aside I always think of you having purple dreads when I read your posts.
Clarella could you email womans hour to suggest a discussion? When I was in school we went on a trip where Germaine Greer did a talk which mostly consisted of period and menopause talk, which she started just as one of the other guys in my class started eating his lunch, I can still see his face now!
DP told his mum not to touch me and she hasn't so far. I've been keeping more than arms reach away from her at all times though just in case. She does keep doing this annoying thing of saying something to twang on DPs heart strings so he relays it to me expecting it to play on my compassionate side. So she'll say "oh, I want to come over more often but don't want to feel like I'm intruding." She's tried it to my face a few times but I don't pander to her so she's stopped.

MyDaydream I really don't have anything 'dressy' maternity or otherwise I'm more a jeans person grin it's just making me dread going it's ridiculous!

Secondsop Wed 19-Sep-12 12:44:48

Spotty your wedding outfit sounds very nice especially as it is the evening do and not the "formal" part of the day. Perhaps dress it up with some sparkly jewellery if you feel too casual? I do think that, to an extent, all bets are off when one is pregnant anyway, clothes-wise - if it were my wedding I certainly wouldn't expect pregnant folk to get something that they would have hardly any other occasion for wearing.

I don't even know the people whose wedding it is really <humph>


PurplePidjin Wed 19-Sep-12 12:48:48

A cautiously optimistic appointment this morning - PidjChick has gone from having an extra beat on every heartbeat to only some of them. Mw reckons he's growing out of it grin

Consultant and anti-d jab next week, how much exactly does it hurt? <wibble>

Phillips Avent Due Date Club sent me a free bottle, hurrah!

Secondsop Wed 19-Sep-12 12:53:12

spotty my oldest friend (who was not pregnant at the time) wore to my wedding metallic silver leggings and a long sleeveless top. I must confess I did for a moment think "hmm, that's rather casual" but the thought was almost instantly replaced by "ah, what the heck, it's nice that she wore something that she was comfortable in and had a cracking time".

Secondsop Wed 19-Sep-12 12:54:14

Great (cautiously optimistic) news purple

PurplePidjin Wed 19-Sep-12 13:06:47

Daydream, maybe 3-4 hours at a gentle bimble, the worst part was turning the straps the right way round! Basically, i had a 32mm strap buckle (clippy thing like on a rucksack) and made 2 50" long straps (denim weight fabric) plus 1 9". Cut a rectangle 14x15" from outer (upholstery weight) and inner (fleece or nice cotton) fabric. Double the short strap and thread the female side of the clip on, sew very firmly to the wrong side of the outer a good inch from the edge at a 45* angle. Sew one end of each long strap to each bottom corner, so they head off round your waist. Thread the strap opposite the short strap onto the male bit of clip, put it on so it crosses your back, adjust to fit loosely. Bring the loose strap up and over (so there's an x on your shoulder blades) and pin. Sew on firmly at a 45* angle to the corner. Place fleece and outer right sides together. Sew together, leaving gaps where the straps are (keep them inside) and a big gap for turning. Turn right side out, top stitch. Try on again, take the fixed strap in at centre back so carrier is snug for a newborn - you can unpick this later when baby grows. Or, use two clips at the top (i would have done this if I'd been able to get hold of another clip immediately!)

Dp has dreads, I'm a bit more conventional wink

Spotty are you near enough to borrow my Isabella Oliver frock? Was lent to me and is a plain black wrap style. Would be fab with boots and coloured tights.

Oh that's so kind pidj but unfortunately not and I'm working the next two days!

Bellaboo123 Wed 19-Sep-12 13:27:28

eggs do you have a receipe for the banana loaf...i've really been fancying some for weeks now!!!
Purple my anti-d is next week too...have heard vary degrees of pain levels...eeek trying not to think about it!

MyDaydream Wed 19-Sep-12 13:31:26

Purple Thanks, it all looks very confusing but I'm sure if I write it down in a way my brain can handle I'll cope, did you post a link to the instructions a while back? 3-4 hours is probably all day to me, but I really want to start using my sewing machine more often.

pidj mei-tai looking good, wish I was as handy as you are!!

One of my friends wore a sarong as a skirt and a t-shirt to my wedding, I remember her dancing around the dancefloor with a string of children following her like the pied piper. I thought it was quite brilliant, your outfit sounds much more appropriate though!

PurplePidjin Wed 19-Sep-12 13:56:12

It'll make more sense as you do it, ime. I need to physically do stuff like this in order to understand it. Yes, i posted a link, but my way is the simplified version grin

3-4 hours is a rough estimate of how long i actually worked on it, i tend to sew in between pottering around iyswim

Clarella Wed 19-Sep-12 14:00:25

Quick pop on b4 appt, good news purple, a cautious relief smile

Bella, Google 'guardian best banana bread' by felicity cloake (? Sp) she's tried a few and that was what she decided was best smile

minipie Wed 19-Sep-12 14:03:29

Impressed with all the baking and mei tai making! I am working long hours at the moment sad so can only really manage work and mumsnetting

Anyone else getting hiccups? I think I've just started getting them, or rather the bean has - a kind of rhythmic "flick...flick...flick" down near my bikini line. Hope that means she is head down grin confused?

Hurray for Pidjchick's heartbeat sorting itself and hope all GTT results are ok.

Spotty I think jersey dress and boots is fine tbh esp if pregnant. I'd prob do tights rather than leggings to make it a little smarter, and add snazzy belt/jewellery/make up/fancy hair do to glam it up!

I have a hen do on Saturday - been really looking forward to it but now I don't want to go as my back still hurts sad.

kate2boysandabump Wed 19-Sep-12 14:38:18

Hello all, been busy the past few days, so have just caught up on things.

Welcome back Strawberry smile

Pidg That's great news, maybe it will all be resolved by delivery smile Your carrier looks great, if only I could find the time to sit down at the sewing machine sad

Spotty wear whatever you're comfortable in, it's only one night. I might be using some of your recommended recipes for Christmas. They can be made ages in advance, so I could do them soon.

Second I have veins just like you, I always give people fair warning that it's a fair skill getting blood out of me. I once had to have a neonatal needle blush

I'm actually feeling quite well, my back is feeling OK and apart from getting breathless a bit more easily, I feel not too bad. I'm even managing to walk the school run morning and afternoon, it does give me stitch sometimes though.

I had to fix one a ds2's drawers this morning, I now have no more nails in my hair angry I've left it to dry so I can brush it out, it looks awful.

The ds's have the optician this afternoon, I had to spend most of the walk to school explaining, in fairly simple terms the genetic ins and outs of why he's colour blind. It made me sad this week, when we walked through the park he couldn't make out that the leaves were changing colour, it all looks yellow to him already!!

I discovered something that makes my baby move this week, he likes Florence and the Machine grin

MyDaydream Wed 19-Sep-12 15:03:26

Purple totally missed that babies heartbeat is getting more regular that's great. Things tend to click into place when I do it too, too many words start to confuse me when really I need instructions for 3 year olds.
I'm being confused by curtains and blinds, how do people ever choose?! Need bedroom and living room, I can't choose and I need them for Saturday.

ISpyPlumPie Wed 19-Sep-12 15:03:54

Hi everyone.

Not having a great day - took car for MOT and it needs £360 worth of work doing to it to pass! Now stuck in town all afternoon while they sort it too.

Know that it has to be done, and that having a safe car should be top of list of priorties but can't help thinking about all the baby stuff we could have got for £360. Never mind!

Bellaboo123 Wed 19-Sep-12 15:20:20

thanks Clarella you know what i'll be making this weekend!

Clarella Wed 19-Sep-12 15:23:13

Still at hosp, quick post, did I dream it or did someone recommend the nigella prune and Choc Xmas cake .... if they did double recommend, plus imagine all the anitoxidants in it, practically going to be a multivitamin at Xmas! I recently had a Yotam Ottelenghi receipe Choc and prune cake which was gorgeous. Positively 2 of your 5 a day!

Clarella Wed 19-Sep-12 15:24:44

My god my spelling is getting atrocious

Mummycox Wed 19-Sep-12 15:25:45

29 week appointment (missed 28 week) was fine, measuring 29 weeks and heartbeat all normal.

Got anti d next week too pidj gulp

working from home this afternoon (and conveniently having washing machine fixed)

Please excuse my ignorance what is a mei tai?

PurplePidjin Wed 19-Sep-12 15:50:31

A type of sling for carrying babies smile

FriendofDorothy Wed 19-Sep-12 16:05:55

GTT results all fine smile

EggsMichelle Wed 19-Sep-12 16:08:02

Bella mine is a Mary Berry recipe, not tried it yet though but finger crossed its edible! Pidj you sling is brilliant, it's spurred me on to make mine, I have loads of old men's jeans I have held onto to make stuff with, this good be a good use of the material! And glad to here the heart beat is better, he must be fixing his own heart!

Seen the midwife, apparently green discharge without itching is not something I should be ignoring (oops) so have to monitor it (very gross). On the plus side my GTT is clear, I can carry on eating my tasty treats!

PurplePidjin Wed 19-Sep-12 16:17:07

Make sure you're really confident in the strength of the fabric, Michelle, especially if you reuse seams smile

Hurrah at all the clear tests grin

MyDaydream Wed 19-Sep-12 16:22:22

ISpy that really sucks about the car, stuff like that always comes at the wrong time, but safety for your baby is more important. Baby won't really care about anything but cuddles and milk for a while.
I think baby sleeps like my DP does. If he's having a nap I end up with a bum really pushed into my side so there's just a hard lump sticking out. DP sleeps with his bum pushed really far out too so I can't wait to see DP and DS taking a nap together when he's a bit older. Can anyone tell me what hiccups feel like, I've been getting little ripples every couple of seconds that lasts for about a minute or so, do you think that could be it?

MyDaydream Wed 19-Sep-12 16:26:27

Friend and eggs (and anyone else who's had one) did you get your GTT results on the day or did you have to wait? I'm between GPs surgeries and worried I'm not going to get to see a MW until at least 31 weeks now since my old midwife has told me antenatal at the hospital should deal with my until my new MW will, but I don't think antenatal will since every reasonable request I've presented them with so far has been met with huffing and being treated like I'm a massive inconvenience.

FriendofDorothy Wed 19-Sep-12 16:53:41

I had my first blood test at 9am, the second one at 11am and the results at about 4ish.

Good news on all the test results smile I'm doing sausage and bean casserole for dinner yummy

Clarella Wed 19-Sep-12 17:04:38

More good news here, slapped cheek results were a mess up at the lab, which I would have been able to tell on Friday if id remembered the difference between IgG and IgM antibodies as definately clear of any recent infection, for some reason they couldn't work out if I was immune or not - but I'm definately not so no need to retest smile not sure why doc put me down for a retest as he should have been able to work that out too.

Plus cleared up some questions over thyroid stuff plus they were happy to let me decide about dropping meds again so I opted for a semi drop so its not such a dip, but she said I didn't have to. She was extremely lovely actually and even offered another scan, although not strictly necessary she thought it was helpful. I initially said I feel a bit greedy and don't want to be (any more of a) drain on nhs resources, plus it might worry me more (!) but she basically said sod that and booked me on Friday. Apparently they do do extra late scans in some nhs trusts for Hypothyroidism but it's not strictly necessary. (it is for other thyroid types plus if id had a particular thyroid antibody, which I didn't smile )

How cute mydaydream (baby bum sticking out!) Hiccups feel like a little regular pulse at first, quite close together, I thought it was my own pulse I could feel a few weeks ago until I read about it. This morning they were stronger and less pulse like, more like proper hiccups.

Loving the mei tai pidg and all the mei tai plans!

minipie Wed 19-Sep-12 17:17:43

Yay, glad you got an extra scan Clarella. I wouldn't feel bad about being a drain on resources, they wouldn't offer it if they thought it was truly pointless and in many countries they do later scans as standard anyway.

Yay for GTT results too. MyDaydream I got a call with my results the day after the test.

Boo to car costs ISpy. Hopefully it means next year's service will be cheaper... ?

Re anti D - I had anti D last week, it didn't hurt, I did feel it a bit going in (it's not a pin prick and the dose is quite large) but it wasn't painful exactly, just noticeable. And no pain afterwards.

utopian99 Wed 19-Sep-12 17:28:23

I feel your pain ispy, our car keeps requiring extra work, and i keep thinking that's the last of it. DH is on the warpath for a new second hand car with proper rear doors and boot space, so it may have to go.. I shall miss it, glitches and all!

On another note, I've got through 10 litres of trade white emulsion in three days, am covered in blisters, and have at least another 10-20litres to go. [weeps silently...] making a difference though!

Yey pidj that's great news. And you really are a sewing pro! Great news on midwives and GTTs everyone too. All good here as well, GT all good, iron levels are same as at booking too which I wasn't expecting (as I gave up taking Pregnacare at about 13 weeks and have had issues previous pregnancy!) Measuring 30 weeks (now 28) but MW wasn't bothered, everyone else seems to be measuring spot on though??

O and to whoever asked the hospital told me they would phone the following day if there were any issues with results..
And pidj had my Anti D today and it does still as it goes in but isn't that bad and doesn't hurt after. And I'm a bit of a baby about these things!

Stacks Wed 19-Sep-12 18:00:56

Eggs hmm, I've had some greenish discharge too. Did she say what she thought it was? I've got my MW appointment tomorrow, so was going to mention it to her then, but any info I can get would be useful.

Honey I seem to remember we're due at the same time? I've also not had many kicks from bump recently. Everything feels more like jabbing elbows and knees in to maneuver around, if that makes any sense? He moves all the time, but just not in the same way he used to. I did have a strange dream the other night that he was having a temper-tantrum in my stomach, and the midwife sent me for a scan when I showed her my very mobile bump bouncing around! I think he must have been moving lots while I was sleeping, which is reassuring in a way, even if it did lead to strange dreams (my bump became see-through, so I could see him kicking up a fuss and crying in there. I then had to hold him, but on my tummy as he was still attached by the cord...)

EggsMichelle Wed 19-Sep-12 19:20:39

Stacks she said green discharge could be merconium, and if I had more and a vivid green i needed to call to hospital ASAP. So wearing panty liners to monitor the situation.

HoneyMum21 Wed 19-Sep-12 19:27:15

Thanks stacks - i checked with the midwife today and she said as long as we're getting at least 10 distinct movements of any sort over the course of the day then that's fine. DH did say just before the alarms went yesterday morning when i was still sleeping he put his hand on bump and was getting lots of wriggles and kicks smile

Talking of weird dreams i had one last night where a barman stole my Garbage band hoody (currently one of my favourite things as it goes over everything!) - i've spent all day really annoyed with dream-barman!

Glad other mw appts went well and great news on the various test results smile yay for seeing LO an extra time Clarella

The sling i mentioned yesterday is here

We went to mothercare and matalan today (they're both out at the same retail park) and got towels and flannels and stuff for bump and then some cheap newborn sleepsuits smile