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November 2012 - nearly halfway there!

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StuntNun Wed 13-Jun-12 18:50:03
Brockle Wed 13-Jun-12 18:55:35

hello marking my place

eversomuch Wed 13-Jun-12 18:59:17

And the November Stats List (EDD, gender, etc) is here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1485512-November-2012-Stats-List

Marking my place as well!
Been feeling very very tired and faint today, been having a cough for over a week now, so might go to docs tomorrow for a check up...

SwissArmyWife Wed 13-Jun-12 19:10:29

Marking my place smile The last thread went very quickly!

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 13-Jun-12 19:12:46

I'm here too, excited that I can have fish paste and thinking it's a girl as I am a blob, but not going to find out.grin

Xx

Marking my place.

NervousAt20 Wed 13-Jun-12 19:52:25

Marking my place smile

Kyzordz Wed 13-Jun-12 20:00:24

Marking my place smile

WestWinger Wed 13-Jun-12 20:10:26

Hello, shiny new thread! Marking my place.

MissMummy1 Wed 13-Jun-12 20:26:52

marking my place :-) x

ditsygem Wed 13-Jun-12 20:56:59

marking my place!

Sophiathesnowfairy Wed 13-Jun-12 20:58:01

Well I have just painted my toe nails for what might be the very last time, though not impossible, extremely uncomfortable!

daisychain76 Wed 13-Jun-12 21:02:39

Marking my place and now going to have crumpets with jam for tea smile

PS Hope you feel better soon bluetinkerbell.

DonnaDoon Wed 13-Jun-12 21:21:05

Hello and thanks Stuntnun

Cacacaz Wed 13-Jun-12 21:25:20

Marking my place too!

Sophia I cut my toenails today, it was uncomfortable and awkward! Pedicures for the foreseeable future it is wink

tomatoplantproject Wed 13-Jun-12 21:32:02

Marking my place too smile

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 14-Jun-12 07:01:40

Cacacaz I am musing on having Calgel on my toenails for the foreseeable!

Lilliana Thu 14-Jun-12 07:26:13

I'm here! Sophia excuse my ignorance but what is Calgel?

Lane81 Thu 14-Jun-12 07:53:14

Hi all...marking my place...from hospital!I had a cycling accident (someone jumped a red light and knocked me over)We are both fine, but they are keeping me in for obs. One sliver lining is that we had a scan and saw the baby (I'm 18+6 so 20wk not due for another 1.5weeks) again and we +doc think we saw a boy. Though we don't know 100% it has made us even more excited to find out officially!

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 14-Jun-12 12:56:39

Am now thinking I really do have baby brain! I think it is called Calgel, but have just realised that is also the teething gel blush

I mean that gel stuff they out on your toe nails and it stays for weeks and doesn't chip. I have just checked on google and it is called Calgel. Anyway that it what I am going to do.

Tiago Thu 14-Jun-12 13:05:46

Also marking my place. Sorry to hear about your accident Lane. Some drivers just suck. Glad you are both OK.

I have my 20 week scan next tuesday (though I did sneak in a private scan at 18+1 and all looked fine so am reasonably positive that the 20 week will also be OK). We checked the gender and, although the baby was wrigling like made, it looks like we are having a girlsmile

FrancesMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 14-Jun-12 13:58:56

Hi Mumsnetters

One Born Every Minute has is back and looking for mothers-to-be in the Leeds area who are due to give birth, either at Leeds General Infirmary or at their home, between the beginning of August and end of November 2012. Please do have a look at their thread in the media requests section here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/media_nonmember_requests/1494999-One-Born-Every-Minute-are-looking-for-mothers-to-be-hospital-and-home-births-in-Leeds-Aug-Nov-201200

Thank you

FrancesMumsnet

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Evilwater Thu 14-Jun-12 14:03:57

Lane I'm glad your both doing well.

Went into town today to look at prams, it's a toss between the Quinny and the baby jogger.

I'm off to the pool for some exercise, while the tester paints dry.
Evil

Evilwater Thu 14-Jun-12 14:11:19

Forgot to add oyster.
Evil

Ooooh is anyone in the Leeds area? Im not, dont know if Id be brave enough to go on it anyway!

Sophiathesnowfairy Thu 14-Jun-12 15:23:14

Sorry about your accident Lane must have been a real shocker. Make the most of some enforced feet up time!

Would be great in someone on the thread was a OBEM mummy! Unfortunately I am Berkshire.

mrswee Thu 14-Jun-12 15:50:12

I'm not in the leeds area but I would def go on One born if I was! It would be strange but quite amazing too to be able to re watch the birth of your child.

horseylady Thu 14-Jun-12 16:57:54

Another boy smile

DonnaDoon Thu 14-Jun-12 17:04:58

Oh geez thats lovely Horsey...My scan tomorrow Im not finding out but played a little trick on myself and it went like this " Horsey is due the same day as me and I reckon Im gonna have the same as what Horsey has lol" Congratulations x

horseylady Thu 14-Jun-12 17:14:57

Lol we asked if she could see.....was fairly obvious!!!! He kept covering his face though?!!

Side of the football pitch it is!!! (hopefully he'll still like horses!!)

Chunkychicken Thu 14-Jun-12 17:35:31

Marking my place... have had a whinge on previous thread so don't need to here but hope to be able to post more in the near future. Have bought lovely new curtains for DD & master bedroom, looking forward to decorating the nursery too. Just worried that my NT scan results are lost between houses, only had it done 4 wks ago!!! hmm

NervousAt20 Thu 14-Jun-12 18:03:28

shock hope you and little one are both okay lane!

Hope you're ok lane. It's good that they're keeping a close eye on you.

Evilwater - we've gone for the oyster. I love it. We also liked the iCandy strawberry and bugaboo bee but price wise for what you get the oysters fab. I am tempted by the baby jogger city mini at some point (I like the fold). I've tried to tell DH that the BJCM would be better for my mum getting on and off the bus when he has the baby grin

We're popping to mamas and papas tomorrow afternoon as their sale started today.

I'm not far from Leeds, not going to LGi though. Shall I request to go there? grin blush

rowingdowntheriver Thu 14-Jun-12 19:13:42

Gosh lane that is awful. Hope you are ok now.

I wonder what francesmumsnet posted that broke Mumsnet guidelines?!

There is no way on this earth I would appear on OBEM!! I'd love to be one of those beautifully composed, calm and well presented mothers-to-be but I know in fact that when it comes to it I will be a wailing, sweating, grunting mess. No way do I want anyone to see me like that.

Besides imagine of your work colleagues watch it? They might see your fanny blush

eversomuch Thu 14-Jun-12 19:22:17

Congrats on the boy, Horsey. How exciting!

Hope you're ok, Lane. I once got run down by a cyclist while waiting for a bus. So not pleasant, and a million times less so when pg. Congrats on the preview scan results. smile

Tiago Yay for a (tbc) girl! smile

I said to dh I wouldn't care about total strangers watching me but I'd HATE my family and friends and just people who know me seeing me like that. It's not flattering at all, they don't need riser it it's private!

To see*

Brockle Thu 14-Jun-12 19:43:59

Glad you are ok lanealtho I am well impressed with the cycling (and the horseriding horsey.

The boys love Rex in Manchester Museum daisy and i agree thaat the stuffed animals are creepy. Free museums are the best. Still finishing DS2's cake and trifle - yummy!

the little kicks are becoming firmer but still sporadic. Always reassuring to hear them. Exhausted at the mo so using football as an excuse to go to bed at 8.30!

SwissArmyWife Thu 14-Jun-12 19:58:59

Lane I hope you're ok now, what a horrible experience!

Sophia The gel nail varnish is called Shallac aswell, I only know this because a friend of mine is a nail technician though blush

Horsey Congrats on the baby boy! Have we got a stats list for genders yet?!

As for going on OBEM, I wouldn't do it, but fair play to the women that do!

How big is everyone elses bump, by the way?
I saw my mum today and she said I didn't look very big at all, and would have to look twice to even realise I was pregnant if she didn't know.
I personally think i'm huge for 19 weeks!

tomatoplantproject Thu 14-Jun-12 19:59:40

horsey a boy grin

chunky and lane you poor loves. Ignore the fil - just remember how much you love your new home, and grr to the red light jumper. angry

How exciting to maybe have someone on obem. Am not sure if I'd have the guts to do it but think it would be amazing to have it all properly documented. Am in London so it's not even an option for us.

Chunkychicken Thu 14-Jun-12 20:10:03

Sorry Lane didn't read your post until after mine... Good you're ok x

horseylady Thu 14-Jun-12 20:28:25

Lane hope you're ok! Yes exciting bought my first boy outfit lol

Mother very excited!!!! First thing dh said was ' well have to try for a girl next time' erm let's get this one out the way!!!

Evening everyone,

Have been making myself feel better this week by telling myself that technically at 19 weeks I am half way though....only 1 out of my 4 kids has made it past 38 weeks, so it hopefully makes it half way for me smile

Fair play to those who go on OBEM...I am in the 'not in a million years' camp...! I can't imagine anything worse than having to worry about a film crew being there while I was giving birth! Oh and we don't live in Leeds anyway...

Swissarmy I think my bump is getting quite big now...which makes me think it is a boy, as I seemed to be smaller with both my girls! Only another week and and half to find out though (hopefully!)

ValiumQueen Thu 14-Jun-12 20:47:11

Marking spot for later. Gosh we can talk.

Elizadoesdolittle Thu 14-Jun-12 20:49:12

Congrats horsey wow this thread is really filling up with boy bumps!

Evil I have the quinny and whilst I don't hate it I don't love it either and do wish I looked around at more prams before I bought it. I'm seriously thinking of getting a BJCM this time round. Will prob use the quinny whilst baby is still tiny as I have the carry cot and then use the BJCM when baby gets too big for that.

Lane sorry to hear of your accident. Hope you get well looked after in hospital and recover quickly.

Just spent the day with my friend who is going in for her c section on Tuesday. All being well I will visit her next week and meet her baby. So excited.

Off to Scotland tomorrow to stay with some friends who moved there earlier in the year. They are going to have DD for us for a day/night so me and DH will stay in a hotel near by and have a day in the spa being pampered and wined and dined. Ok perhaps not the wined bit but am looking forward to some R&R.

Elizadoesdolittle Thu 14-Jun-12 20:52:11

Oh and when I told my DH about them looking for people for OBEM he said "thank god we are nowhere near Leeds, that's the sort of shit I can see you signing me up for" and he's so right smile

TheDetective Thu 14-Jun-12 20:52:23

Congratulations Horsey and Tiago!

Lane What a twat! So glad you and baby are fine. They are so well protected in there, but doesn't stop you from worrying!

Horsey I'm already harrassing DP for another baby after this one! I have such a large age gap, I would like to have no more than 3.5 years between this time! And that will be it - no more babies for me! I know you can't guarantee that siblings will get on, but I feel so sorry for DS, as he gets so lonely at times. Not when we are home, but when we go out. He has no one to talk to, or play with. He's great at making friends, but I do feel for him, as I was an only child too. Sometimes I wonder if I grew up before my time as I was always with adults!

Chunky Just ignore FIL. Easier said than done. As long as your DH is on your side, just let him deal with it! It's his father after all!

I'm wondering if I've got something brewing. I've got right sided abdo pain, low down near my groin, a pinky/browny discharge which I'm not sure if its discharge or my urine is that colour... think its discharge though. I've got a banging headache which paracetomol and a 4 hour nap didn't cure. And vomiting. Hmmmmm. I thought it might be a UTI, but I've not had one for years after an operation to dilate my urethra as I had them recurrently. And this isn't typical of a UTI for me. No frequency or pain on going for a start. But if someone came to me with the above symptoms, UTI would be my first guess. But I really don't think it is. <shrugs>

Had to give aquanatal a miss tonight, mainly because I was asleep. But also because I felt like shit.

GTbaby Thu 14-Jun-12 20:54:16

hello all.

bought my first baby item today! a "just like daddy" baby grow, to give DH on sunday smile so cute, i loved looking at all the baby clothes, cant wait to start shopping properly.

kirrinIsland Thu 14-Jun-12 21:04:40

Congratulations horsey - another boy! This thread is definitely due some girls.

I had a letter from the hospital today attempting to move my scan back a week. Wasn't having that, I'm all psyched up for next tuesday now, and anyway I have my consultant appointment the following day and that's no good if I haven't had my scan. I managed to get one for the Wednesday instead, which isn't too bad I suppose.

ValiumQueen Thu 14-Jun-12 21:11:15

They put my scan back 3 hours. Not on. Had to rearrange all my clients, as did DH. 3 hours is a long time for a pregnant woman.

WestWinger Thu 14-Jun-12 21:17:41

lane you poor thing. Glad they are keeping a close eye on you both - thank heavens you are are both ok.

Last full day of my holiday tomorrow - do not want to come home!

NervousAt20 Thu 14-Jun-12 21:34:03

Does anyone know what the kiddicare store in Peterborough is ment to be like? Me and DP are planning on going tomorrow after our scan to do some shopping but just read on a thread somewhere that it has everything and then read it has no clothes :-S it's almost an hour and a half drive so don't want to go if there's not much there for us, we have a pram so don't need to look at any even though that seems why everyone goes there but any thoughts?

rowingdowntheriver Thu 14-Jun-12 21:34:46

I'm in London too tomato are you north or south?

LittleLolly Thu 14-Jun-12 21:48:11

horsey congrats, another boy!!! We need some girls on this thread too!

Wow congratulations on all the scan results, great to hear such good news!

Nervous we have some friends who recommended the Kiddicare store for research purposes, being able to go there and pretty much try out all the prams you want, then buying the one of your choice online later. We're planning on going after our 20 week scan in a couple of weeks so it would be great to hear how you get on if you do go. It's about a 90 minute drive from us too!

horseylady Thu 14-Jun-12 21:54:12

Hehehe it does need some pink BUT if I had a girl it wouldn't have been pink and sparkly anyway!!

I bought dh a dad to be card!! It's very cute, along with a name book and a what to expect book. Which I then left in m&s after buying some food. I then had to run back to collect it.

I'm east midlands smile

TheDetective Thu 14-Jun-12 22:05:22

Ditto Horsey, if I had a girl, there would be no pink! Or minimal pink, maybe dark pinks... hmmm.

Our boy has nothing blue either! I'm a sucker for bright colours with white! Even his room is in brights/whites! I looked at a blue blanket the other day, but realised there was no point in getting it, as it won't go with any of his clothes grin I love these from Next www.next.co.uk/x49902s1

I don't have any objection to all the baby blue stuff, had it all with DS1. Just that there is more options now, and I prefer the non blue stuff!

TheDetective Thu 14-Jun-12 22:06:41
Evilwater Thu 14-Jun-12 22:24:44

Eilza- what's a bjcm?

I swam half a mile today, not bad going.

Evil

horseylady Thu 14-Jun-12 22:25:10

They're both lovely smile I don't do White though!!! Far too much dirt enters the house to consider it!!! By the time I've ridden, walked both dogs, dh has bought the bike into the house (and left the majority of it on the kitchen floor) the cats have wondered round and the chickens have wandered in despite not free ranging there's nothing left outside to come in!! So everything downstairs is wipeable. Nothing from the outside is allowed upstairs unless the dogs or cats escape

GTbaby Thu 14-Jun-12 22:28:15

I have a really weird feeling in my neck n chest. Think it might b heart burn. But feels different to what I've had before. Feels higher up sad DH is knocked out asleep after early shift. So no one to ask lol.

Detective I'm the same as you with bright colour. We need gender neutral things but I'm not massively in to white, cream and pastels so I've gone for bright and funky.

Mum bought us these at the weekend

ValiumQueen Thu 14-Jun-12 22:49:45

gt might be an idea to call NHS24 or triage. It may well be nothing to worry about, but you say it is weird. Neck and chest feelings should not be ignored. Better to be safe than sorry. Pregnancy puts a huge pressure on our bodies, so give someone a call please.

MissMummy1 Thu 14-Jun-12 22:51:33

Congrats on the boys! 4 weeks tomorrow until we hopefully find out!

Glad you're okay lane.

Now for a rant. We decided today to put plans to move on hold for another year. As impractical as the apartment is, we love it. Really love it, and even if my bastard landlord put the rent up by £100 a month as they've threatened to, it's still the best we could afford in this area.

That was until tonight... Our new neighbour moved into the flat below us a few weeks ago. Put it this way, the day she moved in she almost crashed into my car driving far too fast round our windy development, forcing me to throw my car into someone else's driveway to avoid her whilst she swore at me out of her window. I assumed she must be a visitor or something as EVERYONE around here is lovely - either dottery old pensioners, or professionals who aren't around during the week. She started really pissing me off when she parked her car everyday over BOTH of my allocated spaces - it's 2 per flat - whilst I was out during the day. The only reason I can think of for her doing this is my spaces are right outside the door, whereas hers are across the courtyard - a whole 10 paces. She smokes in the communal bin store, leaves petty notes about people using her bin (all bins are communal and filled front to back, however she's claimed one and labelled it as hers, wtf?) and I even caught her smoking at the main door, whilst it was wide open - basically filling the whole hallway with her yucky smoke.

But these are just petty things. Bearing in mind the woman has never formally introduced herself to us - she slammed the front door in my face when I tried to strike up a conversation with her - we were woken up this morning to 2 workmen at our door asking for access to our loft (we're in the penthouse) so they could run cables down through our flat into hers for her tv. DH answered - waking him up on his only day off is never a good thing - and basically told them to get lost. Morning sickness has returned with vengeance this morning - just after gloating yesterday that it had gone! - and he knew I wouldn't want strangers in our flat whilst I was throwing my guts up. But here's the clincher, I've just been cornered by this woman who had a complete go at me in the hallway, screaming and ranting that I'd caused her to take a day off work for nothing. etc etc. and she'll be billing me for the wasted engineers time?!

I'm so upset by it. Urghh, why is there any need for people to be rude? All we said was, no this isn't a convenient time and we don't want cables running through our flat! Argh, sorry rant over!!

ValiumQueen Thu 14-Jun-12 22:52:10

fatima those are lovely! I love next clothes, and they wear so well. I have stuff that has done both DDs, and still looks good.

ValiumQueen Thu 14-Jun-12 22:57:02

missmummy a note through the door was all that was needed, asking when would be convenient for you etc. that is what normal people would do. Any bill sent to you would be daft as you did not instruct the workmen. She sounds like a right cow. Just think in a few months time Junior will be disturbing her at nights, so you will get your own back grin

Elizadoesdolittle Thu 14-Jun-12 23:20:52

Evil Baby jogger city mini...which I think was on your list.

MissMummy Good god, what a vile women. No advice I'm afraid but you have my sympathy. Hope she calms down and settles into the neighbourly spirit soon.

MissMummy1 Thu 14-Jun-12 23:21:37

valium that's our thoughts exactly. Although I doubt she will still be here in 6 months time when her lease ends. And if she's annoying the other neighbours as much as she's upset me, there will be hell to pay! Just puts a bit of a downer on the fact that we've decided to keep this as our home sad

GTbaby Thu 14-Jun-12 23:29:05

vailum thank you for ur concern. But feels a little better now n more like normal heart burn like. Also keep burping. Which is also normal heart burn behaviour for me. blush. Might get up n look for some rennies.

blonderthanred Thu 14-Jun-12 23:46:55

Wow, just catching up with all the posts. Great news horsey, another November boy. I am so excited about my scan on Tues although also nervous too, I'm aware it's an anomaly scan as well as a peek between the legs! We've said we'll find out but not tell anyone as we're really anti-pink/blue and also cos I like the idea of announcing it at the birth, but a) I'm crap at keeping secrets and b) I'm a bit worried it sounds a bit snooty or presumptuous to say that.

Sorry to hear about your accident lane, I feel like everyone's driving has gone crazy since I became pregnant. I guess I'm just noticing it more but today I was cut up by a van at a roundabout, I bipped my horn briefly and then for the next ten miles the van followed me, overtaking and then pulling up next to me, screaming abuse and driving so close and swerving. In a branded company van. In the end I grabbed by phone and took a photo and later emailed the company, but he had intimidated me so much I was scared he would track me down, so I didn't send any identifying details. So scary and such extraordinary behaviour.

Hope everyone else is ok apart from the ms returning to a few of you, how rubbish.

Iheartpasties Fri 15-Jun-12 04:48:09

Hello everyone,

Wow I am so sorry for those of you who have been run over, got awful neighbours, feeling sick, heartburn, awful drivers etc. I'm glad we can all have a collective moan though as I think it helps to get it off your chest.

I'm happy to hear of everyones great scan news. I literally cannot believe I am coming up to the half way point. I sometimes feel like I have so much that I want to try and do before the craziness hits us in Novemeber. And I have dreampt twice now that I am in labour and it all stalls because of my mum being mean to me!! WTF is that all about?

We are in Australia, but me and dh are both from the UK and my mum and dad have said they will come out and help us in Nov, but for some reason I cannot make up my mind about it. I know it will be a big help, but also my mum gets on my nerves so bad I might not enjoy here staying with us!!! so bad of me.

Iheartpasties Fri 15-Jun-12 04:49:00

oh wow, my dd has just done a disgusting dirty nappy, I am gagging. Just thought I'd share that lovely image with you all smile

I'll deck this baby out in enough pink for the rest of you! After having ds and no girls in the family for 11 years I want to get pink!

2 weeks today til my 20 week scan.

NervousAt20 Fri 15-Jun-12 07:10:11

Scan today grin so worried about making sure everything's okay in there and then excited to hopefully find out the sex! It's going to be a long morning for me smile

horseylady Fri 15-Jun-12 07:26:57

Nervous I was the same!!! I just wanted 'all is ok' and that was it. Being able to see his face was lovely though and his little hands and feet!!!

I'm just so happy!!! But would have been just the same with a girl!!!

Lilliana Fri 15-Jun-12 07:41:10

Wow it has taken me ages just to catch up and now I have no time to reply properly.

Hope you are ok Lane, you're braver than me cycling around the roads.

Congrats to those that are having boys/girls, do you think some of the later ones are going to be more girls to even it out?

Eliza your Dh's comment made me laugh, I can imagine my dh saying similar about many things.

So is anyone thinking about the OBEM? I'm in Devon so no way but also don't want the kids at school to see me! I would also be a screaming, sweaty mess rather than composed and gorgeous, not an attractive look.

Sorry to hear about your neighbour MissMummy, you don't need that stress. Hopefully she will be off soon.

Hope everyones scan go well.

GTbaby Fri 15-Jun-12 07:43:50

It's mufti day at school. My maternity jeans keep coming down. So I put on DH belt. And it is to small! My DH is 6foot2 n very cuddly! But his belt wont fit an I wana cry!

nebbo Fri 15-Jun-12 08:00:07

Hi girls, long time no chat.
I hope you are all settling in to pregnancy well.
We have got ourselves caught up in the blitz of getting the house/car etc ready for the new additions!! Expensive times!!!
I have my 20 week scan on Monday and they should be able to say for sure then what we are having. I've had a couple of scans lately and she thinks girls but they've been breech so far so it's been hard to see. Hopefully if they are it will even the sexes up a bit.

Xxxx

Congratulations to the boys/girls!

I am having girls too Nebbo! My OH is so chuffed, it was his first choice all along! Will confirm at the 20 week scan next week.

Have done a bit of shopping and it is all so expensive having to buy two of most things. Luckily friends and family have been very kind and generous with buying us lovely things or handing over things from their babies.

Joined Tamba and it is great, so many helpful twin and triplet (and even some quad) mummies. Have had loads of tips and advice.

I never get time to post on here. But I am starting maternity leave in 8 weeks times so will have much more time on my hands. I am expecting my babies in early October.

Hope everyone is well.

mrswee Fri 15-Jun-12 09:00:55

thedetective Are you feeling ok better? I LOVE that range from next, how nice I like bright colours and my DD was always dress in them. I didn't know next did a unisex range.. I might have to buy some of that now, love the rainbow dungerees!

lane Hope you are ok.

missmummy your new neighbour sounds a like total bitch. How stressful. I'd start complaining to her landlord at what ever she does wrong. She doesn't have to know is came from you directly. She sounds like she's started a war anyway.... if that doesn't work, the next time she goes on holiday, stick a few prawns through her letter box.. by the time she comes back she will be forced to move because of the smell! My Mum's friend did that to the outragous students that lived above her, they really were the worst type not just being students. And it worked! lol

ShellyBobbs Fri 15-Jun-12 10:42:26

Detective, I'm booked in at Tameside, I've been very happy the last few times I've been there, but the MW that delivered my last one was horrendous, panicking, not letting me squat, I HAD to lie on the bed I was told. It was a very straight forward birth as the last 2 were but very quick. She then couldn't find the placenta and really started to panic, another midwife walked in and said 'it's there'. I will refuse her if I see her this time.

Daisychain I might see you in there smile It is the rest of it that's pants, I've got personal experience from last pregnancy, got taken in for the weekend and for the whole time I was there there was poo soaked knickers on the windowsill of the shower and something else, it was still there when I left. Also 95% of the people I work with have been discharged from there and believe me there are some horror stories!

Brockle I love MOSI, but we've not been on the train due to queueing yet. Of course the sewers, mine think it's great!

Kyzordz I'm the same with the pelvis and back on fire. I feel like I can't do anything. I spent 10 MINUTES putting some plants in yesterday and literally couldn't walk for the rest of the night! I've no idea how I'm going to get on at work now if I get a difficult job on that requires a lot of bending and crouching, I just will not be able to do it.

Evil I really miss wine, I didn't really drink that much of it either, I'm more your typical beer drinker blush, white beer is my favourite and I can drink it until it comes out of my ears..........

Rowing Hope your son is feeling better soon, you must be in pieces.

MissMummy Lack of sex doesn't even come into it. I think we might have done it 3 times in 15 weeks! Shagging is the very last thing I want to do at the minute, I've got absolutely NO interest in it at all. Who knows what's going to happen over the months with these hormones, there is always the possibility they'll be fighting us off soon, but in my case I very much doubt it. I also had shit neighbours during my last pregnancy, luckily we sold the house and left them to it, life is too short to fight those kind of battles, the stress just wasn't worth it. The mad bitch used to bang on the walls when my youngest cried in the night, it wasn't until I literally nearly killed her after pinning her up against the wall that she backed down with that little trick, they replaced it with weekly parties that went on to the early hours. Pair of bastards!

Chunky What a horrible, jealous old b****rd! All you can do is to just keep out of his way really. And that's what we are all here for, to listen and empathise with each other so we don't alienate all our RL friends and relative with all our moaning! I don't moan half as much as I used to when pregnant and it's all down to you ladies grin

Lane Glad you are OK.

I just feel like a big round hippo already! I can't bend down properly anymore, I've definitely got the flaming pregnancy woddle to a T, can't paint my toenails at all now and can't defuzz my damned fanny because I can't even see it anymore! What do I do about that then?

My stomach now moves when baba kicks which is nice to see. Feeling very sorry for myself as I am constantly hurting/aching and still have 16 and a half weeks left at work and everyone of those shifts is a double, I'm in all weekend too sad

ShellyBobbs Fri 15-Jun-12 10:42:55

^ How's that for marking your place grin

TheDetective Fri 15-Jun-12 10:46:24

Much better today thank you mrswee! I love the stripy cardi! Gonna get that before it sells out. May also get it in a couple of sizes blush

Must stop eating fruit. I am sat here with nectarine bits between my teeth, and a cocktail stick trying to get them out. It's not working!

I have changed my sleeping habits since being pregnant, and have preferred lying near enough flat on my tummy, with a pillow underneath, and a pillow under my leg. Last night baby was going crazy every time I tried to get in my preferred position! It made me giggle! It was the strongest kicks I've ever had! Real distinct kicks too! Soon as I lay on my back - it stopped! Naughty baby! Think I'm gonna have to sleep on my back grrrr!!

ShellyBobbs Fri 15-Jun-12 10:54:52

I've now got 3 huge pillows propping me up into a near sitting position and one underneath my knees. It is the only position that I can actually sleep in, poor hubby, he must feel like he's sleeping with an 80 odd year old!

daisychain76 Fri 15-Jun-12 11:03:09

Ooh, that's a coincidence, Shelly, sorry you had a bad experience with one MW. My only non-maternity experience there was going in as a day patient for a minor op a couple of years ago. There were loads of us sitting waiting to go to wards watching TV and suddenly, on GMTV, came a report about Tameside having high death rates and bad reports from various regulators. Not something you want to see when you're just about to go under general anaesthetic! (Tho I had no complaints about my treatment).

Don't know if I'm being over-sensitive but I was a bit fed up last night. Went to a governors meeting at DCs school we were all sitting chatting beforehand (including headteacher and local vicar) and one governor (who I only know vaguely) commented that she hadn't realised I was pregnant and asked if it was planned, in front of everyone there! I know there was a discussion about this on a previous thread, but that was the most embarrassed I've been over it.

Oh well, hope everyone has a good day today.

ShellyBobbs Fri 15-Jun-12 11:10:27

That was me with the 'was it planned', my answer to the last ignorant idiot was 'there were no contraceptives used and we were both sober'. Cheeky bitch!

It would be lovely to meet up in Manchester if we can, New Year would be good for the sales grin.

Not the most ideal thing to hear when you're in Tameside, never mind due for an op! I do have to thank them for one thing though, a couple of years ago hubby booked in for the snip and after 1 cancelled appointment and twice turning up at Tameside to find the surgeon wasn't in that day, we decided to leave it. I don't believe in fate but thank goodness I had such a downer on it all and hubby gave in grin

My baby girl is kicking away in there! Always reassuring smile

I've bookmarked two double biggies I found online, both around £170. I think our budget is 200 max, some are crazy prices, I saw a bugaboo double for £1000! I almost fainted!

Haha! I meant buggies grin

mrswee Fri 15-Jun-12 11:36:03

TMI alert

I've just been to the loo and have some brown spotting, it's only brown butu there was a little in the toilet too. I had this with my DD at 13 weeks but I am now 16.5 weeks. I'm guessing it's fine but do you think I should leave work for the day and rest?
I don't have my midwife's phone number on me just now. Do I even need to call her?
I am trying not to worry as it's not very restful! WWYD?

blonderthanred Fri 15-Jun-12 11:48:43

Hope you're ok mrswee. When that happened to me I decided to give it an hour or two and see how things went, but after it continued I rang the doc and went home from work to rest. It stopped the next day though.

daisychain76 Fri 15-Jun-12 11:50:52

Mrswee I know brown spotting is common and sure it will be fine. I would leave work, go home and call your midwife to reassure yourself. The main thing is to look after yourself. Don't worry about worrying (I do that a lot!) it is completely natural.

Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 15-Jun-12 11:51:35

I would Go home and feet up mrswee and if it doesn't stop hone the mw. Usually the brown stuff is just old isn't it and nothing for worrying, but always worth checking.

Thechick Fri 15-Jun-12 11:54:23

I called my midwife when i had brown spotting on Monday, i had an appointment that day anyways and was able to hear the heartbeat. I had the spotting in the morning, but still went into work because i had been off all the previous week and there was an audit i was looking after. She suggested i go to the epu so they could see what was causing it but as it was monday and the epu is always crazy on a monday, i decided not to. Said i would go if it continued which it didnt. The midwife said it was probably old blood from implementation all those weeks ago. I had it at 6 weeks as well. I think if its okay to go home, then go, it wont do any harm and do call the midwife, but i'm sure its nothing, just old blood.

Thechick Fri 15-Jun-12 11:57:04

Should have also said- I wouldnt have gone in, if i hadn't been off!!

DonnaDoon Fri 15-Jun-12 12:21:26

Hi folks just had my 20 wk scan and all was fine with the baby. She asked if I would like to know the sex and Im so proud of myself for not caving in and saying "no thankyou anyway" so Ive really annoyed all friends and family who are dying to know ha ha, they ll just have to wait. Apparantely Ive got a will of iron but there you go.Did get a clear look at its little face though and it looks just like a mixture between my youngest son and daughter when they are asleep so no clues there but am well chuffed.

Thechick Fri 15-Jun-12 12:56:32

Great news on the scan donna. You are a stronger woman than I am. I looked at my diary today and i have 4 and a half weeks before my scan. It feels like forever.

mrswee It's good that it's brown blood and not red. If it is possible for you to go home then do so but I think you'll be fine.

Well done donna It must be so nice to see little one in such detail. You done really well to not find out what it is!

I got a shock this morning when I went to put on a pair of trousers that fit two weeks ago. I could do them up (just) but I couldn't breathe so had to take them off and wear a maternity pair. So even though my bump still isn't very big it is clearly growing so I'm pleased.

I have also noticed in the last week ago or so that my stomach feels a bit heavier. Does that make sense? I really notice it now when I get out of bed or lift myself up from the chair. Hurry up scan! Still 13 days to go. It's nice reading about other peoples though.

horseylady Fri 15-Jun-12 13:18:40

Mrswee I had a tiny amount of brown on tues or wed if I'd not had the scan I'd have called the mw. I didn't relax till I felt him move!!
Well done Donna!! I asked if she could see smile

mrswee Fri 15-Jun-12 14:07:39

I the end I called triage because I couldnt get through to my own midwife. They said go home and rest, put a pad on so i can monitor it, call back if anything changes for the worse.

So I am home in bed now.

It must be the tinest amount because there is nothing much at all now and it's all been brown no red or even pink.
I'm sure it's fine really but always worth resting if they say so.
I said to the midwife at triage that I had had this with my DD at 13 weeks and it was put down to implantation. She said it was a bit late in weeks for that now.
My scan is not until 3 weeks on Monday and the midwife at my 16 week app last monday refused to listen for a heart beat. So I am going to have to wait quite a while now to know it is all ok. Though as I say it's no doubt fine but I would love to know that for sure!

detective buy the cardi in two sizes, you won't regret it!

Thechick Fri 15-Jun-12 14:15:24

mrswee Im not sure if its funny or scary how one midwife says one thing and another says the opposite!! Mine said it was implantation and I would have been 17+1 on Monday.

MissMummy1 Fri 15-Jun-12 15:26:34

Thanks for all your kind words. She really is a pain in the arse. I was too taken aback to say anything last night. Maybe pregnancy has made me less confrontational? A woman clipped my car in the pool car park today (not a mark on either car so wasn't bothered) then had the audacity to jump out of her car when I beeped at her for starting to reverse into me afterwards and starting shouting and swearing standing in the middle of the road!!?!? I must attract nutjobs. In the past I'd have got out of my car and pointed out to her exactly why she was the one in the wrong, but today I locked my doors and drove off around her before reporting her to the police. I've become far too much of a wimp....

Hope all is okay mrswee. I had a slight brownishy discharge when I was about 10 weeks and put it down to old blood. Brown is definitely better than red in all cases as it's dead blood cells as opposed to fresh blood, so if it was anything serious you probably would have known about it days ago. Not much consolation I'm sure but I hope it helps!

On a plus note, I got my uni results back this morning and have passed my degree with a pretty decent mark! So so pleased, I can finally concentrate on the new chapter of my life of motherhood and developing my business without any stress of academia to deal with! DH is taking me out for dinner and mocktails tonight to celebrate - woop woop! I went to attempted to go to an aquanatal class this morning, but my satnav took me to the wrong pool. Probably my fault. Had a nice 40 minute swim though instead so was feeling very chilled pre car-park incident! Still no real feelings of movement, damn those stomach muscles!

horseylady Fri 15-Jun-12 15:33:07

Quick question. On my scan report is says foetal heartbeat not present. This has to be an error would you bother calling them or not? I obv work there and know errors happen but still!!! There is also a sentence which says single live foetus?!

Mrswee fingers crossed all ok.

NervousAt20 Fri 15-Jun-12 15:59:54

Hope your okay mrswee and put your feet up and rest

Jus had our scan and everything with little one is fine and were joining team pink grin can't believe it was convinced it would be a boy but so so happy!

horseylady Fri 15-Jun-12 16:01:51

Congrats nervous!!!!! Brilliant news smile

Congrats Nervous. Another girl finally! We need lots more girls.

kirrinIsland Fri 15-Jun-12 16:22:02

Congratulations nervous - we were definitely due a girl on here smile

And congratulations and well dome on your degree missmummy

Yay nervous glad there's another girl!

Is anyone else feel exhausted? I fell asleep on the sofa earlier (ds played on his own bless him) but I just have NO motivation to do anything.

Elizadoesdolittle Fri 15-Jun-12 17:33:18

Congratulations nervous lovely news.

So I put my maternity jeans on today to try them out for size and they are too big! The round the bump bit is ok, they are over the bump and I can adjust that, but they are hanging off my hips and bum. So it looks like I might need to get some new ones in a smaller size. Bit annoying as I was hoping to get away without spending too much on maternity clothes this time round but I've had my eye on a pair of skinny mat jeans so at least I can justify getting them now!

izzybizzybuzzybees Fri 15-Jun-12 17:40:11

Just popping in to mark my place. Had physio yesterday and have SPD so been fitted for a belt and have a lovely tubigrip for bump, i didnt know they came that big!

mrswee Fri 15-Jun-12 17:44:14

Congratulations missmummy and nervous!
thechick it is a little disconcerting how one midwife will say something and another disagree. I would have been more reassured had she said it sounds like implantation rather saying it probably isn't and offering no other explanation leaving my mind to wander and think about all the other stuff it could possibly be!

We DTD on Saturday and Sunday first and probably the last time this preg now! Poor DH.
Might be a reason for spotting though I guess.

ShellyBobbs Fri 15-Jun-12 17:56:52

Nervous Congratulations, a girl!
MissMummy Well done you!

Crikey MrsWee The only time I ever DTD 2 days on the run is if I've been drinking all weekend grin I don't think I'll ever do it twice a WEEK ever again at this rate.

DH I'm bloody knackered too! It's a weird tiredness, it's in my eyes and I know if I go to bed I will just sleep and sleep rather than just laze around the house.

I've painted the back garden fence today and done a bit of shopping as well as general house work. A weekend of double shifts to look forward too now, don't know how long I can keep them up for now though.

Evilwater Fri 15-Jun-12 18:00:58

Congratulations, miss and nervous.

Today I picked up my mat b1 form as I have to get it in by the next two weeks with it all filled out, and dates settled for mat leave.
I have also been back into town, ( when living in devon it's a pain) to look at prams again. I now have three prams that I like. In my search none of them have been perfect, it's a bit like looking for a house all over again.

1. Oyster
2. Mamas and papas sola
3. Baby jogger city mini.

I'd love the uppababy, but it's way too expensive.

I'm 22 weeks now and the baby kicks everyday, no pattern yet.

Tomorrow I'm off to Avebury to see some friends, it's about a 3 hour drive (another not so nice thing about living in Devon)

Mrswee, I hope everything is ok.
Evil.

mrswee Fri 15-Jun-12 18:23:18

lol shellybobbs that's DH's quota for the rest of this year I think.
The most naughty thing I'll be doing in bed for the rest of this year is resting while eating a Magnum ice cream like I am just now!

ShellyBobbs Fri 15-Jun-12 18:30:03

I've even taken to pretending to be asleep when he comes up after I've sneeked to bed. Never thought I'd do that grin

MissMummy1 Fri 15-Jun-12 18:35:54

OMG ShellyBobbs I do that to!!! I'm just not in the mood for it AT ALL. Have dtd once or twice in the past month and I've just not enjoyed it. I feel awful for making him suffer, but hey ho, sure he'll get over it!

izzybizzybuzzybees Fri 15-Jun-12 18:52:32

evil have you had a look at the mutsy EVO or uppababy cruz. We loved the vista but its too expensive and these too look great and less money!

I went off sex when I first found out I was pregnant because I just felt like crap and partly because I was worried about hurting the baby before 12 weeks. Silly I know. But the last couple of weeks I have wanted it loads more than usual blush I may go the other way again though when I get a massive bump.

Congratulations on your degree missmummy, what's your business going to do?

And another girl, finally! That's great Nervous. Did you get to Peterborough in the end?

I'm not feeling at all pregnant today, just fat. Can't wait to feel some movement or make it to my 20 week scan (18 days to go) so I know everything's ok. Is there ever a point when we stop worrying?

mrswee Fri 15-Jun-12 19:15:18

Haha I've totally managed to start a conversation about sex!
applepie I was the same as you, it changed this weekend and I really wanted to.
The start of SPD has put me off a bit though and now this spotting.. I'll probably not bother again for a while. sad

misslaughalot I was wondering that too. I don't think we will. I have worried about this baby every day since I got two lines on the pregnancy test and probably will for the rest of my life.

MissMummy1 Fri 15-Jun-12 19:30:43

misslaughalot my degree was in teaching. I've been a freelance tutor the whole way through and have now worked out that I am earning twice what I would teaching part time, for a lot less hours, effort and responsibility! So have deferred my probation year for a few years to concentrate on developing the business as a back up in case I can't get full time work afterwards (there's virtually no teaching posts up here in Scotland...). Oh and I got pregnant 5 months before I was due to start it - oops!

nebbo Fri 15-Jun-12 19:57:26

That's so exciting gardenpixes I've only been thinking that they are girls since she said, its will be very wierd for them to be boys now but we will know on monday!!

Can I ask, what are you getting in terms of movements? On my scans the one on my right they call twin 1, she has been transverse and then breech and I seem to get the majority of movements on that side. Twin 2 has been breech for the last 2 scans and I hardly ever feel anything on that side, I'm wondering if its because twin 2 is probably still breech? I say movements, they are still flutters really and not at all regular. I will get a load of activity then nothing for a few days or a week. It's starting to get a bit more regular now though. I'm not worried, just curious.

I think I'm resigned to a life of worry apple, although hopefully I'm hiding it well!

missmummy that's really interesting. I'm a former primary school teacher, left in 2007 because I had no life other than teaching, and 4 months later met my DP and look at us now! I'd go back to it if it was just about working with the children each day (and if we had another government who wasn't insistent on taking our school system back to the 1900s). I never tried tutoring but can imagine its the best bits of teaching without the school! Good luck with it all!

Nebbo I had flutters very early on. They have now become slightly firmer kicks. I never know for sure which twin it is as they are so close together (more on the right hand side). My guess is twin 1 kicks and moves more. Both were transverse at 17 week scan but I have a feeling twin 2 is now breach which is why I get less movement higher up. I maybe completely wrong though. I would have days of no movement but for the last week I have been having kicks everyday now. When I wake up every morning I have a weird big bulge above my belly button that I presume is a head?? It is weird and surprising that my uterus has grown so much.

YellowWellies Fri 15-Jun-12 20:46:00

Good lord ladies - can we natter! I'm busy for a few days and we're onto a new thread and I've ten pages to catch up on between threads. Hope everyone is doing well. Great news for all of those with gender scans and Lane I hope you are recovering well - that must have been v scary - I cycle up here in Orkney but in most of the UK I find drivers are too unused to dealing with cyclists to dare peddle around. We just don't look out for bikes in this country, bar in Oxford or Cambridge where they're a way of life. If it's any compensation, my sister cycled ten miles every day to work until she was 7 months preggers and it totally cured her SPD.

We had our 16 week appointment (at 17 weeks) yesterday and got to hear the heartbeat - it was between 148 and 153 bpm - so no clues on the gender there. It didn't sound like a train or a horse. Hmmmm. The midwife thought it was relatively fast - so perhaps a girl? Was v funny as I've been feeling kicks for a wee while, or certainly fluttery movements - which my DH hasn't managed to feel yet. Well the bump managed to kick the doppler and we all heard the kick like the boom of a gun smile so he believes me now. As for the sex thing. We're the opposite. DH has decided he finds preggers ladies v sexy and I'm finding him v sexy at the mo too! (Always handy) Tis marvellous. Don't feel preggers and don't have to worry about contraception. My only rule is not on the morning of a midwife appointment just in case they have a look see!!! Am loving having my energy back and really making the most of going for walks etc. The bump is definitely here - a lady in Tesco thought I was due next month (cheeky moo!) but I had just pigged out on fish and chips. Ahem. Anyway lots of love to everyone

daisychain76 Fri 15-Jun-12 20:58:17

Lovely news nervous and congrats missmummy

I have just spent ages going through all the names on the Pampers baby name finder and am still stuck! There's one girl's name I completely love, goes well with DDs name, etc (even tho I'm not finding out, sure its a girl) but DH has gone from saying its a possibility to saying he doesn't like it at all. Thing is, I am convinced it is the right name. Have said he can choose a boys name and I'II choose for a girl, but he is convinced its a girl too so is having none of it. I may have to be sneaky and keep bringing up other names I know he'll hate until he comes round to the one I want.

StuntNun Fri 15-Jun-12 21:19:13

Bad news for you first-timers, the worrying never stops! I'm sure even when they're grown up I'll be worrying that they're working too hard or not eating right or driving too fast!

YellowWellies Fri 15-Jun-12 21:23:15

See my DH is like that with my favourite boys name - Gabriel - he just doesn't like it. Pah I reckon I might have to let him have his way on it as I don't want to force it on him. Also by being 'reasonable' he might let me have my way on the girl's name (and I think it's a girl!), I don't know why but I have stronger feelings on picking a girl's name rather than a boys. I might suggest I pick the girl he picks the boy. I'll just have to develop a strong fake belief that I'm having a boy. My favourite girl's name is an old Swedish one Lillemor (pronounced lillamo) and I've loved it since I was a kid.... Am also liking Beatrice, Tabitha, Pela (short for Pelagia which was my Polish nan's name) Marlinna (which combines my sister and late Mum's names) and other odd ones.

Oh big congrats MissMummy on your degree btw - cracking news. And you did the right thing on the flat and the silly moo downstairs wanting that wiring done - you should (if there's a next time) just say, "sorry we're tenants, we'll have to check with the landlord before giving you permission to make any changes to our flat" (I also wonder if her landlord knows she's doing it?) It's a good catch all excuse to stop them hassling you. Does she know you're pregnant? If so, pfffft bad karma to her....

I've got 4 names on my girl list so far, dh doesn't have any that he really likes. Trouble is I love them all and want to use all of them! Poor child!

LittleLolly Fri 15-Jun-12 21:50:01

To those of you who have had already had babies, please can you advise me on where sells the best baby sheets for Moses basket and cot bed. I've been looking at mothercare and mamas and papas. Also, should I buy jersey sheets or flannelette? I'm fussy about sheets and want really soft, cosy, comfy ones! Some of the sheets I've seen (matalan) didn't feel soft at all.

Also, muslin squares... They are available everywhere at massively different prices! Is there a difference in quality or are they all the same once they have sick on?!

Thanks! smile

Yellow I love Swedish names! On my list for a girl is Lotta or Erin, for a boy not sure yet... we had Noah on our list last year, but not so sure about it anymore...

NervousAt20 Fri 15-Jun-12 21:51:15

Thank you ladies grin we've had a really nice day got some cute girlie things and it makes my whole pregnancy seem/feel more real like omg in actually going to have a daughter! smile

misslaughalot yeh we did make it over then and it was along dive which lots of traffic so we actually only got just over an hour then but tbh we wouldn't have needed much longer, we got quite a few bits but it looks absolutly huge but hardly any of it is for shopping/showrooms, I think it would be an amazing place to go of you were unsure about what pram and nursey things you would like as it had a floor dedicated to each but for all the other bits I was abit disappointed as there was hardly any clothes to look at but there's a nice shopping mall across from it which was nice to walk round next and mother care smile

Congratulations missmummy smile

YellowWellies Fri 15-Jun-12 21:56:54

Wooo Lotta is lovely but it doesn't go with our surname - Payne! Grrr... so awkward. I'm joking that it's going to be Wayne or Elaine Payne...

It is lovely smile DD1 has already decided that if it's a girl, it will be named Lotta smile bless her!
We do have the added difficulty of the name has to be pronounced the same in English as in Dutch, which is not easy...

Chunkychicken Fri 15-Jun-12 22:02:55

LittleLolly try Asda. Really cheap & reasonable quality, do blue, pink & cream/white options on bedding & muslins, do you can stock up without breaking the bank smile

Sorry, preg brain means I've lost track, but a big CONGRATULATIONS to those with good scans and degrees and so on...grin

Thank you everyone for the support. Trying to be far more philosophical and think 'fuck him, at my DH isn't a dick much'. grin

Feeling proper kicks from baby tonight, as had DD sat on my lap drying her hair. Baby always seems to kick when his/her big sister is having a cuddle/close. It's lovely. Feeling s/he might be pink favoured today though, as I'm starting to feel much more like I did with DD - tempting fate now but I might actually be blooming!! Clear skin, bright eyes, glossy, full hair, firm bump, full boobs, no MS, more energy. Def got my sweet tooth back too, which is how I felt with DD... We'll have to wait & see though.

Passmethecrisps Fri 15-Jun-12 22:14:01

Lots of blethering! all good.

Got my letter today with my blood test results. Apparently I have a 1 in 9624 chance of having a baby with downs. Spina bifida is also marked as beig highly unlikely. All good news.

I am impressed by everyone's organisation looking at Moses baskets and so on. We haven't looked at anything like that. I think I am still in denial that I will have an actual baby. Need to pop to stirling pram centre to have a wee look. We did have a play in John Lewis and were keen on the Uppababy Vista.

Movements have been getting stronger and more noticeable when I am doing other things. Very weird sensation trying to teach with something wiggling about inside you!

Has anyone else already noticed it being uncomfortable sleeping? I try to lie on my left but I feel my bump drags if that makes any sense? It's like he tucks himself away on the right so feels heavy when i lie on my left. So I end up semi on my front but I swear I can feel him wiggling around - in my head it seems like he is trying to get away because he is squished. Then i wake up in the middle of the night on my back with the cat purring contentedly on my bump. Anyone using a pillow yet? Seems so early but last night was pretty awful.

Any nice plans for the weekend?

mrswee Fri 15-Jun-12 22:17:58

littlelolly John lewis was great for moses basket/crib sheets and plain cot sheets, they have a basic range so not at all expensive. Ikea was great for cot sheets. Both pure cotton stretch with elastic so stay on great.

Still spotting not lots but still happening, I'll call back tomorrow if it hasnt stopped. I thought it had stopped so now feeling a bit down that it hasn't. Slept a lot this afternoon so I'm not sure I'll get to sleep for a while tonight!

YellowWellies Fri 15-Jun-12 22:19:06

Sleep at night is the bane of my life at the mo - sleep in the morning is a different matter. Have had to put a pillow under one knee and sleep on my tummy with my leg out to one side. The pillow stops bump getting squished. Just can't sleep on my side... need a full body pillow thingy

Evilwater Fri 15-Jun-12 22:20:33

I've just won a mamas and papas pram with car seat for free, for £145. The pram has got the carry cot.

Evil

Passmethecrisps Fri 15-Jun-12 22:24:23

Nice one evil!

yellow might have to try the pillow tonight. I know what you mean about night time vs day time sleep. Nap during the day? No problem - asleep in minutes. Night time? Hours of tossing and turning.

MissMummy1 Fri 15-Jun-12 22:24:30

Thanks YellowWellies! I know for a fact my landlady would have had a fit at the thought of ripping walls apart and the floor up to run a cable through the flat, so I think we made the right decision! No idea if she knows or not, to be honest she must be bloody blind and/or ignorant (probably the latter) not to notice!! We did have a slight chuckle on our way home from dinner tonight at the recent addition of a 'one-for-all' aerial (the flat square box thingy you connect to your freeview to make it work - we have them for all our tvs) sitting at her living room window. A little point proving exercise on her point? I found it amusing anyway.

I love John Lewis but we don't have one in our town yet. They are now building one which should be open before Christmas.

passmethecrisps I have used a pillow a couple of times because I like to sleep on my side but my stomach feels quite heavy and uncomfortable when I lay like that.

We have agreed on a name if we have a girl. DP wants Persian names because that's where he's from so we will use Kimiya if it's a girl. Possibly Cyrus for a boy but there are a couple of other possibilities as well. Why are boys names so much harder to choose? There are none I really love. I like Gabriel YellowWellies smile

MissMummy1 Fri 15-Jun-12 22:24:56

Also thank you all for the congrats - can't tell you how much of a weight off my mind it is knowing it's all done and dusted!!

Passmethecrisps Fri 15-Jun-12 22:25:54

Oh, and mrs wee I hope the spotting stops soon - must be concerning. If I nap for half an hour during the day I may as well forget sleeping at night. How does that make sense?

Oh wow Evil how did you win it?

MissMummy1 Fri 15-Jun-12 22:27:56

apple I know what you mean, it's much harder choosing boys names. I kinda liked Angus as a middle name - it was my beloved late grandfather's name and snigger junior was made in Angus just before we move back to Fife! DH's Irish and having none of my Scottish suggestions. Hmmph

Passmethecrisps Fri 15-Jun-12 22:32:25

Congrats missmummy1 - Job well done! Tutoring sounds like a great idea.

apple I love your names - it's nice to have names which link to heritage. I know exactly what you mean about boy's names. I was getting quite upset at the thought of having a boy because I just didn't love any name. I love the girl's name we have picked so this was making me very anxious. Then one day a name just came to me. I said it to DH and he just replies with "oh well, sounds like we have a boy's name". Now that we have it I feel completely happy with either sex - I almost wish we were having two so we could use both I love them so much!

Evilwater Fri 15-Jun-12 22:36:17

Apple and pass it a second hand one. My chap does loads on eBay and so he won it for me. I have to pick it up, but for that price it's a steal.

Those that are having trouble sleeping, need to roll on onto the left side. This moves the baby off the one of the major blood vessels.

Apart from my chaps snoring I've slept very well, making sure I keep to the left.
Evil

Mine came from ebay as well evil. It's £375 in Mama's and Papa's but I only paid £140 including delivery because it's an ex display one. It got delivered on wednesday and it is immaculate, I'm so pleased with it.

rowingdowntheriver Fri 15-Jun-12 22:46:32

littlelolly just saw your post about Muslins - my tip would be to get large ones as you can use them for anything such as blankets, boob covers when feeding, sun shades. There is a brand called anaise anaise (I think) that does really big ones but it is quite expensive. You can get similar cheaper ones from amazon.

John Lewis does really soft Muslins.

I am a big fan of muslins, I still use then for ds and he's nearly two. They're great for wiping noses and food down the chin!

Dh and I will go to babies r us/ mothercare and have a good look at double buggies. There are two I like but one is 170 and the other is about 220 and they're almost identical except colour but we'll have to have a good look at them. I'll be getting one where the baby lies flat at the back and ds sits upright in front, I'll need it for about a year so will get good use out of it.

mrswee Sat 16-Jun-12 08:05:53

Agh. Woken up with really sore backache and stomach. Like a cramp that doesn't come and go. Spoke to triage and they said take paracetomol and if it's not gone in an hour call back. Well it didn't go so they've told me to go up there. sad
Trying to be positive. Anyone else who's said they had spotting recently also have cramping?
Not sure if I can feel movement or not. I have felt some but I am also windy!
Oh well we will soon see.

NervousAt20 Sat 16-Jun-12 08:18:32

Good luck mrswee im sure things will be fine but best to be checked! Fingers crosse for you x

Thechick Sat 16-Jun-12 08:57:46

mrswee good luck for today. Like nervous said, I'm sure it'll be fine. I haven't congratulated you on your girl nervous. Do you all think that going forward we are going to get a block of girls to even things out.

I'm another one who is so uncomfortable sleeping. I have been for a while. I went to ikea about 6 weeks ago to get extra pillows/cushions. Bought a really good firm cushion I put behind my back but I still can't sleep on my left, I find it so uncomfortable. So I kind of sleep a bit upright on my back even though back sleeping isn't recommended when we get to heavy.

YellowWellies Sat 16-Jun-12 09:07:27

Good luck mrswee. Am sure all will be ok hon and getting checked out is the best thing to do. I'd still be going nuts though. My fingers and toes are crossed for you. Kinda puts my worries into perspective (fell asleep without letting the cat in and now he seems to have disappeared somewhere into the Orkney rural wilderness sad )

SwissArmyWife Sat 16-Jun-12 09:13:10

Morning all, this thread doesn't half move quickly!

I have been moping around because I have awful toothache caused by a bloody wisdom tooth, I can't even chew food at the moment, so I had yoghurt for breakfast. Depressing!
Not to mention the hip pain, heart burn and generally feeling tired a lot. I've also been feeling very sicky the last couple of days so feeling pretty sorry for myself!

The sleeping thing is also quite uncomfortable for me, because of my hips playing up. The only position that relieves it is lying on my back but it makes me dizzy after a couple of minutes. DP has been replaced with a pillow.

mrswee Good luck for today, I really hope you and baby are fine smile

mrswee Sat 16-Jun-12 09:32:47

Thanks everyone . Just waiting at triage now. I wouldn't have even called them had I not had cramping.. But it's freaked me out. I just expected to be better today.
yellowellies is the weather as bad as everywhere else? The cat has probably found somewhere to shelter for the night. They are very cunning.. Well mine are a bit stupid but cunning with it! I bet you cat returns hungry and surprisingly dry very soon!

horseylady Sat 16-Jun-12 09:35:30

Hope all ok mrs wee. Were off to London today smile

Thechick Sat 16-Jun-12 09:55:13

I live in London. What are you doing in London today?

YellowWellies Sat 16-Jun-12 10:05:10

Nope we've had a sunny week whilst it appears that the south of England has been looking after our normally shit weather for us.... am just worried as there are lots of nesting seabirds (great skuas - nasty buggers) in the fields around us at the moment and they dive bomb anything that goes near sad anyway good luck mrswee and thanks for your lovely words xxx

Brockle Sat 16-Jun-12 10:11:08

I hope you are ok mrswee. I had bleeding at 16 weeks with DS1 and all was fine but it does put the fear of god into you.

I may be the only person here who kind of dreads naming babies. Husband is muslim and the kids are muslim too so we choose muslim names. Prob is that I am hard to please. I need a name that is easy to pronouce here and that I like. DH has always wanted prophet names for boys and we picked two nice ones for the DS's but struggling with a potential DS3. Girls are easier by far but I think fate will produce a gorgeous DS3 so name negotiations will ensue!

Thought the hip pain was easing or that I was managing it better but going downstairs yesterday was agony and DH ended up driving me to work so that I didn't struggle with the train. Ugh!

what is everyone doing today?

TheDetective Sat 16-Jun-12 10:20:56

Hope you are now being seen MrsWee. Sounds like all should be fine. I had similar the other day, but it just stopped of its own accord. Brown loss is much better than fresh red smile

Another one with trouble sleeping. My body clock is completely screwed. It really is. I need 4 hours of sleep, 4 hours of wake, 4 hours of sleep... etc. I'm struggling. I can sleep, but I wake then get tired really quickly in the day, so end up falling back asleep, then not sleeping long enough at night. A vicious circle. It may be trying to prepare me for this baby. I suspect... hmm

I have 4 pillows, and a very comfy mattress! DP is down to 2 pillows grin

Oh, and can I have a little celebration! 20 weeks today. YIPPEEEEE!! It is all going so very quickly!

Hope things are ok mrswee

We've just been to sainsburys to do our food shop for the week and it came to £100! I promised dh I wouldn't set foot in a supermarket all week.

Thechick Sat 16-Jun-12 10:51:27

I'm going to check out an nct nearly new sale. I haven't been to one before. We aren't going to buy anything just yet, just want to see what it's like.

mrswee Sat 16-Jun-12 10:53:14

I'm waiting at triage to see a doctor now I've already seen a midwife who found the heartbeat and a good kick to the Doppler. Very happy, first time we've heard it! Sounded not as fast as my DD.. Wondering if it's a boy then hmm.
Feeling a lot less worried now of course.
I guess the doctor will check about the bleeding.
Thanks for all your good wishes. I'll let you know what happens.
Think we spend about £20 keeping dd happy already.., new pens, magazines food ect!

YellowWellies Sat 16-Jun-12 10:59:42

Wahey great news on the heartbeat and the doppler kick! That's cheered me up whilst I mope about our mog

Passmethecrisps Sat 16-Jun-12 11:19:45

Hooray for mrswee. That must have been a massive relief.

Have you been out with the Go Cat yellowwellies? When I was growing up in the country we would shake the box and the cat would come running from wherever she had holed up. She would occassionally go missing for weeks at a time. Once she came back massive. My dad said she had plonked herself outside a rabbit warren an picked off the wee ones as they came out. Poor bunnies!

mrswee Sat 16-Jun-12 11:20:44

yellow if your mog is anything like mine it will be away sulking at you! Hope it returns soon!

ShellyBobbs Sat 16-Jun-12 12:23:06

Bluetinkerbell Erin is my youngest daughters name, never has a child suited her name as much as she does, probably because it's all you hear when she is about. She has absolutely NO fear of anything and so if you look up, you'll see Erin who will have managed to have found something to climb!

MissMummy My bump is called Angus, joking I said to hubby that now it's stuck we'll have to have it as a middle name, now I think we will actually will. ^Erin doesn't like it and shed a few tear the other day because she said we can't call it a 'silly name', bless, you don't hear of many Angus's.

I just feel massively pregnant now, my skin is already really stretched at the top of my abdomen and my HUGE uniform that I was embarrassed to wear 2 weeks ago has only got a little bit of room, I'd say about an inch before I go skulking into the office for an upgrade sad Even worse, one of my maternity tops won't fit my massive boobs in now, blimey I still have another 20ish weeks to go yet. I am still getting the 'are you positive there wasn't 2 in there' from family but no, I made her check 3 times smile

Had to crouch down at work today, to get up I had to get on my hands and knees and climb up a stool. It's not good shock

ShellyBobbs Sat 16-Jun-12 12:23:46

MrsWee All sounds good, probably a little infection of some kind, I had this with my first.

YellowWellies Sat 16-Jun-12 13:10:05

No sign of the cat yet, but our feral barn cat neighbour seems to have left us a teeny kitten.... oh dear

ShellyBobbs Sat 16-Jun-12 13:29:29

Bless, is it old enough to be apart from it's mum? Hope yours turns up soon.

Just bought a maternity belt off ebay, so will let you all know if it does much. Was in shock as to having to buy the large size but it went on how round you were, I got a tape measure and was extremely shocked to find that I was exactly a meter from my belly button round shock

StuntNun Sat 16-Jun-12 13:38:48

Great news MrsWee I hope you get the all clear soon.

Brockle what Muslim names have you picked out? My granddad was Sheikh but everyone called him Joe which I don't know how you get from Sheikh. What about Imran or Rahman or Nizam?

I'm laid up in bed for two days after my steroid injections yesterday so I'm hoping this will sort out my bad back. Otherwise I don't think I'll be able to keep working full time with the level of pain that I've been having so 8 don't know what I would do then.

Iheartpasties Sat 16-Jun-12 13:39:49

mrswee phew I am relieved for you.

Sophiathesnowfairy Sat 16-Jun-12 14:18:32

mrswee hope everything is ok, great news about the heart beat etc.

Am having feet up time with DDs while DS sleeps, only now don't want to get up from my place on the sofa. I haven't told DDs about the baby yet I wanted to wait till after the 20 week scan, as I don't seem to relax unil after that, but one of them announced I was huge this morning so maybe they have sussed it.

I will probably spend the next our days getting nervous about My scan n Thurs.

eversomuch Sat 16-Jun-12 15:04:37

mrswee Hope everything turned out to be fine. Yay for heartbeat and kicks!

stuntnun Hope your back is feeling better soon. I've got a history of back problems, so I know how debilitating it can be.

Had my 20-week scan yesterday. Everything was fine, except that the abdominal circumference was measuring quite large. Could be nothing, or could be an indication of gestational diabetes. Going back in four weeks for another scan and if the measurements still look suspicious, will get the gestational diabetes blood test. Fx it was just an anomaly. This little guy is always throwing surprises my way -- perhaps my body's way of telling me it's time to be done with this reproduction thing!

Was quite stressed out after the scan because the doctor was very reluctant to discuss what the measurements might indicate. Went back after lunch and spoke with another doctor who explained things much better and put my mind at ease.

DS was very wriggly through the scan and we definitely got a good glimpse of his boy parts, so time to start getting rid of DD's lovely clothes to make room for his.

How's everyone doing on names? We're finding boys' names SO hard and not really agreeing on much yet. DH doesn't help by suggesting a lot of ridiculous names as jokes.

georgee Sat 16-Jun-12 15:29:55

Thank goodness for this morning's reassurance mrswee, was hoping all was well and wondering how you were getting on.

Hope all is well with the new scan eversomuch, thank goodness for that second doctor. It would have been stressful to be hanging there for four weeks wondering what it was all about with no explanation whatever. I expect it's just a blip though and all will be within normal bounds next time. Hurrah for it being a boy! We're in the process of putting the house on the market and would dearly love to know if I can get rid of all those bags and bags of girls' clothes but DH doesn't want to find out this time so they're just going to have to take up space until November!

Have had the odd little kick this week. Very different from DD - there was that sort of bubbling sensation low down with her for ages. With this one there's been a set of internal nudges now and then, quite a bit higher up. I think s/he is standing on his/her head!

Horrible day here in Edinburgh, it was foul yesterday too. Hope everyone else is having better weather!

georgee Sat 16-Jun-12 16:09:16

... and in response to those questions I can remember being discussed recently:

We're getting a second hand Phil & Ted's from my BIL and SIL, no idea what they're like but it's free so we'll start with that and see!

We're DTD about once every two/three weeks ATM, not a brilliant record. I'm having the weirdest sex dreams though - one last week involved John Craven! Yuck!

I'm also wee-ing myself a bit with coughs and sneezes (and have a cold at the moment so this is fairly frequent). I too usually have a bladder of iron (in fact I've had to get help when I was younger for not being able to 'let go' enough to pee in public!) so it's very disconcerting.

We have plenty of boys' names but very few girls'. With DD we had no end of trouble settling on one so who knows what will happen if we get another DD -she'll probably be one of those ones that's not named for weeks!

kirrinIsland Sat 16-Jun-12 16:19:03

Yay for the heartbeat mrswee - hope all is well.

brockle I have the same issue. DP is Muslim so we're going CPR Muslim names. I could name a girl no problem but we're struggling to find any boys names that we both like. I'll find out on Wednesday whether that's going to be a problem!

Oooh Georgee John Craven bought me lunch once, he's very nice but I'm wondering what your dream involved?!?!

georgee Sat 16-Jun-12 17:31:31

Oh well, erm, the dream was that I was expected to give him a - you know - a bit of attention downstairs. Luckily I don't think it got to that point before I woke up in a sweat thinking 'Oh thank God I don't have to give John Craven a BJ ...'

Not sure where it came from but when my sister was in 6th form our school was in Countryfile and there was this sequence where he was talking to the kids and then stepped forward and said 'Hello, welcome to Countryfile' ... anyway, my sister was in the group he was talking to and said to him (as they had to be looking like they were chatting) 'What shall we talk about?' and he said 'Let's talk about sex!' So then there was this shot of this group of 18-year-olds open mouthed behind him while he stepped forward and said 'Welcome to Countryfile'.

But that was 20 years ago! My sister's now 38! Amazing what your pregnant brain drags up and turns into fodder for alarming sex dreams ... hoping I'm not the only one here ... (probably am, oh dear oh dear)!

Brockle Sat 16-Jun-12 17:53:53

Nice to know there are people in the same boat kirrin! Girl names are easy but finding it tough with boys. We have a Mahmood and a Zakarya. Moody gets frustrated that people don't sound the h in his name but his nickname is Moody or Moods anyway. Zakarya is Zak or Zakkie. stunt the only boys name we can both agree on is Yousef. We like Jenna, Halima, Mariyah and the boys like Jamilah for girls but sure it will be a Yousef tho unless we can find another one we can agreed on!!

Lane81 Sat 16-Jun-12 18:14:23

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and best wishes, you are all lovely. Completely recovered now.

Congratulations miss mummy on degree result-that's brilliant news!

Great hearing about what everyone has bought. It's giving me some great tips!

mrswee Sat 16-Jun-12 18:32:14

Thanks again for all your messages.
Doctor had a look said cervix is nice and closed and blood is def old. She was happy for me to go home which is all good
Cramp pain had subsided a bit when I saw her but is as bad as ever now I'm home. I've had a bath and more paracetomol but neither has helped. I'd like to know what is causing it and I don't really know what to do. It's just constently there. DH has arranged for DD to go to a friend for the night in case we has to go back to triage. I've called triage to let them know about the constant cramp. They are busy so will call back.
They checked for a uti but no other infection. It did seem at the time things were clearing.
I had a headache when I woke up. It's the only thing the paracetomol worked on!

Spinity Sat 16-Jun-12 18:42:00

Can I join please?? Currently 18 weeks pg, due on the 17th nov and we will be having a surprise in terms of gender. Already have a little girl.

Nearly half way there and I am enormous smile

Lilliana Sat 16-Jun-12 19:15:17

Hi Spinity you are duw the same day as me! There is a link to a stats list somewhere near the beginning that you can add yourself to.

Glad Lane and Mrswee are both ok, hope the cramping eases soon.

We like lots of girls names, but only really agreed on 1 boys name, we have at least one option for each which is good I guess.

No sex dreams here (wouldn't mind a couple but not about JC please) and the odd dreams I was having seem to have gone, maybe I'm just too tired to dream now!

Can't believe we are nearly half way there, it has gone so fast.

mrswee That's good that the cervix was still closed but a bit worrying about the cramps. I hope they ease off for you soon.

Welcome Spinity and congratulations.

I just got back from visiting my auntie's baby boy. He is beautiful. He had loads and loads of tiny little curls on his head and chubby little cheeks. I could have held him all day. Made me even more excited about mine!

LittleLolly Sat 16-Jun-12 19:45:41

Ladies who live in the North West/ Manchester area.... I went to a fab shop today called Lester's Nursery World, it's in Cheetham Hill in Manchester. It's the only place that seems to do a package on the iCandy.. I got 10% off everything which was a saving of over £100! So the iCandy Peach2 is ordered for this little man, very excited.

I also got the changing bag I've been admiring... It's a pink lining Yummy Mummy bag with blue butterflies on it, I love it! The bag was £15 cheaper than everywhere else too.

And after all that shopping I came home and had a snooze on the sofa while DH made tea... Ahhh I love being pregnant grin

LittleLolly Sat 16-Jun-12 19:47:08

mrswee hope you feel better soon. It's hard to know what is normal pregnancy aches and pains and what is worrying isn't it. At least you know baby is safely shut away in there and still kicking happily!

DebussyHead Sat 16-Jun-12 20:02:06

Ooh a new thread already! Marking my place.

ShellyBobbs Sat 16-Jun-12 20:15:06

Hope it clears up soon MrsWee

Might have a gander in there LittleLolly, sounds good.

georgee Sat 16-Jun-12 20:20:48

Sorry to hear about your cramps mrswee. Hopefully just your womb concentrating on expanding to make room for that kicking baby - worth just getting them to check it again though. I hope they've phoned you back by now and that you're well on your way to getting some advice.

Welcome Spinity!

kirrinIsland Sat 16-Jun-12 20:21:13

brockle zakarya is lovely and would be on my list if we didn't already have one in the family!

Welcome spinity

WestWinger Sat 16-Jun-12 20:31:51

Welcome spinity!

I am now back from hols. Great to be back online properly at last. Picked up my doggy from his holiday home today - so pleased to see him - he was quite ill while we were away and what with the damn pregnancy hormones I spent a few days in floods of tears. Anyway, he is back to his usual self now, i.e. asleep.

Lovely to read all your news about the girls and boys. It is going to be such an exciting few weeks.

Hope you have a good night mrswee and that the cramps ease soon.

On the getting to sleep thing, I am fine bump-wise - I just shove a thin pillow under the bump and between my knees and I'm fine. I read somewhere that, near term, sleeping on your left encourages baby to be in a good position for birth so have adopted that to get myself in the habit. The problem I have is my arms - what do you do with them?!? If only they could be detached for the night. I get terrible pins and needles whatever position I lie in. Stops me from sleeping properly. Grrrr.

Anyway, takeaway has just arrived smile. Will get up to date and catch up in a bit.

WestWinger Sat 16-Jun-12 20:42:47

Errr - ignore what I said about sleeping on your left - it is best to sleep on your left but not for the reason I gave...... Not sure where I got that from...... blush Maybe I am thinking about birthing balls. Maybe I should quit while I am not ahead......

Passmethecrisps Sat 16-Jun-12 21:12:18

Welcome spinity!

westwinger I heard that too. Don't know where.

I wouldn't mind so much if I has already been a back-sleeper. I have always slept on my side but now that this would be a good idea suddenly I feel uncomfortable.

NervousAt20 Sat 16-Jun-12 22:01:42

Welcome spinity smile

mrswee I hope they call you back soon and the cramps start up ease off, if they don't ring you then keep phoning them!

The football has taken over the Telly! The england games interest me not like I no the rules just the teams and when a goal happens but the rest angry there's nothing on

ValiumQueen Sat 16-Jun-12 22:05:40

Sleeping on left means baby is not on any major blood vessels, which is why you have a section tilted to the left.

DD1 had a fab party, but I am shattered, and DD2 has only just gone to sleep.

NervousAt20 Sat 16-Jun-12 22:08:18

Also can't remember who said sorry blush about was going to look at prams in mothercare and toys r us and I have vouchers for both places, the mother care one is £20 off any pushchair when spend £250 or more and has a code do can be used online and the toys r us one is £10 off when spend over £100 off anything in store, also have one to save £15 when spend £135 on any car seat/infant carrier and that can be used in conjunction with buying the infant carrier base.

Not sure if they'll be of use to anyone but I won't use them so if they are any use then better to save something rather then nothing but thought I'd offer smile

NervousAt20 Sat 16-Jun-12 22:09:49

The car seat one is for mother care not toys r us

TheDetective Sat 16-Jun-12 22:14:12

WW It is to relieve pressure on the main valve (vena cava) to the heart, which lies slightly to the right. Lying on your left stops your uterus putting pressure on the valve and increases blood (oxygen) supply to the baby. Try telling that to my body. I can't lie on the left. DP sleeps to my left. I freak out if he so much as breathes on me. If I have to smell his night breath, I'd die. If I sleep on my side, its my right side. Or prop a pillow under my right side to tilt me to the left - does the same job as sleeping on the left really.

MrsWee Hope all is settling down for you.

TheDetective is sulking. Again. DP insisted on making tea, then undercooked my pasta. I hate undercooked pasta. There is nothing else in for tea. I'm starving now sad

In other news! Took DS for his haircut today, amongst other things. It really needed doing, couldn't get an appointment at the usual place, so as we were going to town, decided to pop to a few salons. The only one with an appointment said they charge adult prices for children on a weekend! I said ok, well just tell me the price. £15 for a dry cut. Felt like weeping, but agreed. He sits in the chair, and I get a picture out of him to show how I wanted it. It is kinda surfer style, longish, the back of it is just below his collar, which is too long for him. She starts getting him ready for the cut, then says they can only take an inch off for the £15! WTF?!! It needed an inch at the back, but the top layers needed 2 inches to make them in the layered style they should be in. The top grows quicker than the rest. I practically dragged him out the chair! £15 for an inch off, which would not be in the style it should be in, and would need doing in a week again! I growled at them to go and rip someone else off, and stalked out! blush

Was that my pregnancy hormones on overload again??? grin

They definitely were when we went to the cinema and watched Men in Black 3. And I cried. Dear me! My eyeliner was half way down my face.

Hope everyone else has had a nice day - my first saturday off in 7 weeks! It was nice to be off for just part of a weekend! Back to work tomorrow, on sodding nights!! My own fault, I'm doing extra shifts to bump up my pay, to put away for mat. leave sad

YellowWellies Sat 16-Jun-12 22:29:54

Oh dear my hormones are in action too, I had a weep when I went to the loo earlier and our absentee pusscat wasn't there to come in and watch me / miaow at me as he normally does. He normally follows me like a shadow and it doesn't feel right going for a wee without him (yes I know this is weird blush but I reckon it will stand me in good stead for the lack of privacy toddlers bring to bodily functions).

Thankfully we have found our furry pervert terrified in the next door landowner's plantation - think he must have been mobbed by the oystercatchers and skuas and run for cover in the night and then not dared to make a break for home. DH grabbed him, notwithstanding flying panicked claws and walked him in a deathgrip across the fields and home. DH is now officially my hero. And we've just turned his epic haul of mackerel into rollmops which I've been craving - can I eat them?

The only downside is that Momma barncat came to rescue her last wee kitten so I've not lucked out and ended up with two kitties.... must work on DH to let me have a kitten (perhaps as insurance in case the furry pervert goes AWOL again?) :D

Anyhoo have totally forgotten all day that I am updiffed having been climbing over fences and scrambling into old barns to find our sodding ingrate cat. Which actually was quiet a nice feeling!

GTbaby Sun 17-Jun-12 00:28:20

Passmethecrisps i have the same problem, have always slept on my side, never on my back, but now just cant get comfy. i keep waking up on my back and having to turn my self over. my arms are getting in the way, always getting pins and neddles sad sucks.

although i dont seem to get dizy on my back, so maybe it doesn't matter?

blonderthanred Sun 17-Jun-12 00:34:52

Great news mrswee.

The lying-on-left thing is interesting, I had read about it encouraging the baby into the right position later on too, as well as the valve thing. And I'm totally with you on DH's night breath (my DH not yours...), I also get pins & needles from lying on side.

Was considering one of those Dream Genii pillows, has anyone else used them? The Amazon reviews seem good but it's a lot of money. I'm only 5'3 and the negative reviews are mostly from tall people.

nervous I think it wa who said I'd be going to those stores. I won't be spending over £250 though I hope! But poss might spend over 100 in toys r us a we might get the pushchair from there.

Happy fathers day to all your partners who have dcs and happy fathers day to be to all those that are preg for the first time!

Also it's my 1 year wedding anniversary today! The weather is def nicer today than it was a year ago!

Was me*

WestWinger Sun 17-Jun-12 08:06:10

DH Happy Anniversary!

SwissArmyWife Sun 17-Jun-12 08:31:16

DH Happy anniversary to you and your DH grin Doing anything nice for it?

Detective Wow, £15 is a complete rip off! I think i'd do the same even if I wasn't pregnant!

Yellow Glad your cat was found! And yes you're right, you lose all privacy when you have a toddler!

Happy fathers day to all your partners smile

Iheartpasties Sun 17-Jun-12 09:01:09

15 quid for a dry hair cut for a child! That is absolutely rediculous!! Good on ya for storming out, they need to learn that they are charging way too much. What a con!!

We went to the zoo today and it was loverly.

NervousAt20 Sun 17-Jun-12 09:13:08

Happy AnniversaryDH smile if any of them can be of use just let me know

Happy Fathers Day to Daddy's and Daddy's-to-be

TheDetective Sun 17-Jun-12 09:33:59

Damn it. Wrote a big long message. MN deleted it. Arse.

Worst thing is, I can't even remember what I wrote.

<gives up>

StuntNun Sun 17-Jun-12 10:10:21

Where has my bump gone? It was there yesterday but now I just look fat again. I weighed myself and I haven't lost weight but I look all deflated. VERY WEIRD, I can only assume baby has snuggled into a different position.

Tiago Sun 17-Jun-12 10:13:48

Stunt - I too have a magical disappearing/reappearing bump. I think it is every thim the baby decides to head back down into my pelvis. Must be warmer there...

Tiago Sun 17-Jun-12 10:15:41

blonder I have the summer infant pillow and am quite tall (5'8"). Well worth getting - i'd developed a total inability to sleep until I did.

TheDetective Sun 17-Jun-12 10:30:37

I palpate my bump, and up until the day before yesterday, I haven't felt any 'fetal parts' thanks to the flab hmm. However the night before last I managed to find the back. Its on my left. Its always on my left when I feel movements too. I think baby prefers my left side! Shall have to ask which way it is lying at my scan on thursday!

Have a little feel of your bump. One side may feel hard, and one might feel softer. I showed my DP the difference, and he agreed that one side is firm, like a rock, and the other is soft and squidgy. grin

And yes, the position will alter the shape and firmness of the bump!

Passmethecrisps Sun 17-Jun-12 10:44:36

Hooray for the returned kitty yellowwellies! Out cat likes to visit us in the bathroom too. If you are there long enough she tries to get on your knee. Like you say, good practice for the future.

My bump comes and goes as well. I think it likes the pelvis area most because that' where it always seems to be. If that's indicative of it liking sleep then that's great!

Lying in bed last night I could feel it kicking from the outside. Put DH's hand on but he couldn't feel anything. He needs to press a bit harder but doesn't like to. Some were getting really strong so I don't think it will be too long before he will be able to feel without pressing.

Happy anniversary DH! By the tome we get to our first anniversary we will have a 3 month old. No romantic break for us then!

blonderthanred Sun 17-Jun-12 10:44:55

Thank you Tiago.

I've was having a good feel of my bump last night during a big kicking session - as was DH although he didn't feel anything - and it definitely felt bigger/firmer one side than the other, which I thought might be the head? Not sure quite how it works though.

Passmethecrisps Sun 17-Jun-12 10:46:38

Last night I was getting quite hard kicks on my right at the same time as light flutters on my right. They were down in my pelvis. Maybe he was lying flat and waving his arms and legs about.

TheDetective Sun 17-Jun-12 11:09:53

Mine makes me laugh, as I wonder what exactly he is doing in there! Strange little creature!

I have 4 bathroom visitors in my house. It's no wonder I get stressed and can't bloody poo! Between DP, DS, the dog who puts her head between my legs and tries to force her head down the bowl and the cat. I'm screwed!

Glad the pervert has returned YW

And congratulations DH Hope you have something nice planned!

I did type all this in my earlier post before it was deleted grrr....

I've got no roof left in my mouth. The nectarines and cherries have burnt it off. Ouch.

Thanks ladies. We're going to my parents a bit later for a roast lunch then onto fils as its fathers day too of course!

nervous the £10 off at toys r us would come in handy if you don't mind smile let me know what you need me to do.

Oh bugger.
I've just done 1.5hours of cleaning and sorting out things for tip/charity shop and now my pelvis is bloody killing sad

I wanted to get lots sorted today but I've done one room and I'm in agony!

Feeling a bit sorry for myself, I can't spend the next 5 months not doing anything, the house will be a shit hole

Sorry for the self pity post

ShellyBobbs Sun 17-Jun-12 12:22:36

OMG Detective I had to try REALLY hard not to cry at Men in Black 3 as well, I couldn't speak for a few minutes, I think my eldest daughter (12) was holding back a few tears too, but she's a massive softie smile

Just on a break from work, have to be honest it's not been that busy this weekend so am just nipping to IKEA to have a look at cots (actually hubby has told me this is what we are doing, he's still like a big kid about this baby).

I'm absolutely knackered in the day, but at night I'm sleeping like a log which is something I never do? I'm well propped up with pillows into an almost sitting position and have a pillow under my knees, sooooo comfy, no wafts of night breath coming anywhere near me and no sweaty spooning as I'm to high above him smile

ShellyBobbs Sun 17-Jun-12 12:24:32

Oh and can't wait until tomorrow. All kids back at school, I'll be home for about 9.10am after the school run and back in bed at 9.11am until at least 2pm, I need a really good catch up and I don't care...............

Thechick Sun 17-Jun-12 12:26:55

Looks like there's a couple newlyish-weds on here. We celebrate one year in Aug. can't believe how fast the time has gone.

A few people have been posting about deflated bumps, I was going to post about the same thing. The past two days it's seemed smaller, but it is very reassuring that im not the only one.

TheDetective Sun 17-Jun-12 12:37:39

Shelly Thought it was just me who did that!! All other people I know seem to have 'too much stuff to do' to even sit down in the day! Sometimes I'm just so exhausted though, stress from work and shift work just means I'm constantly tired. I used to love coming home from the school run, and going to McDonalds for breakfast, and tucking myself back in bed with the food, and a hot chocolate, and drifting off to sleep! Now I can't stand McDonalds, and I can't get back to sleep so early in the day. Siiiiiiiiiiigh.

And when the baby comes, there will be no chance of resurrecting this habit! ARGHHHHH!

I just ate a full tube of pringles. When I say just. It was at 10am. Not even an hour after breakfast. That's baaaaaad! Bad baby ;)

I want another tube now. blush

ShellyBobbs Sun 17-Jun-12 12:54:36

I bought some squirty cream and the 'posh' flavoured hot chocolate ready for tomorrow, I've even got my favourite pj's washed and smelling lovely, bought a hot water bottle for the groin strain and have left the last couple of chapters of my current book unread on the kindle, just incase my eyes need a bit of a push to old sleepy land. I just feel like I need a good old rest, as well as working my job, I'm running a business with my friend and looking after these 3 little tinkers, tomorrow I'm sleeping grin

I'm still eating fried egg butties that are a bit runny, I know I shouldn't but I just can't help myself.....

Cacacaz Sun 17-Jun-12 13:11:39

Happy anniversary DH

We celebrate our 1st wedding anniversary in July, where does the time go! We went to the travel agents yesterday to look at city breaks an left an hour later, having booked 3 nights to Paris grin we will be there for our wedding anniversary.

I have my scan tomorrow at 15.30, no plans to find out the sex, although I may crumble blush

Yellow I'm glad your cat is back safe and sound

Re pillows I bought the dream genii last weekend, as my back and bump were starting to ache. It has helped immensely, so far, I have been much more comfortable and slept better.

YellowWellies Sun 17-Jun-12 13:31:01

I was going to buy the dream genii but was struggling to justify the price when we've so much else to buy and a house move to fund, but huzaaahhhh for Lidl they are selling full body pillows for £9.99 (washable cover, very comfy) and yes that's under £10. Brilliant, am well chuffed and slept so well last night what with that and a knackered puss cat asleep and purring at the foot of the bed. Lidl only tend to have these offers on for a week so if you want one - hurry.

There's a thread in pregnancy about starting mat leave. What's everyone here thinking of doing?

blonderthanred Sun 17-Jun-12 13:52:59

DH, DBro and DBro's friend (who all live here) have gone to the cricket and I have the house to myself for the first time in MONTHS. Bliss. Just lying here still in my PJs (no shame) watching my bump move. Amazing.

Thanks for the advice on sleep pillows. Re. mat leave, I'm thinking mid-Oct, three weeks before EDD.

MissMummy1 Sun 17-Jun-12 14:17:46

Gah my body clock's wrecked. Didn't sleep at all last night, must have dosed off about 7ish when DH left for work (I vaguely remember telling him to just take the car instead of me driving him...) and have just woken up. Still knackered. Productive day so far? Not. As we're both self employed I plan to work as long as possible and then hopefully as my work dies down over Christmas take a few months off before working around dh's week on/week off. In theory...

Passmethecrisps Sun 17-Jun-12 14:49:37

YW you are a genius. I just told DH about the Lidl pillows and he wants to go and get one this afternoon. Certainly worth trying.

Just about to tuck in to Sunday roast. Back on the Becks Blue which is nice - haven't been able to drink it since 8 weeks

Maybe the shrinking bumps are more to do with the fact we're all (mostly) pass the sickness stage and as the bumps are growing and the food is on a more even level?! Maybe I'm talking rubbish ha!

Had a v busy day seeing 3 sets of parents, chilling on the sofa now. I can't get in the kitchen because dh has just cleaned the floor so that's one way of not eating too much!

ShellyBobbs Sun 17-Jun-12 18:14:10

Well went to IKEA, but have to say when I looked at the cots I was like 'this is boring, that one will do', then shuffled round the rest of the place. I was just too tired and I'd rather just go on my own. Once I've had my 20 week scan I think my head will be round buying things and I'll just go and blitz the shops on the next pay day.

Hubby's just said he'll 'give me a good rafting' to help me sleep, I told him I think I'm the only one that is sleeping at night lately (and I don't feel like a good rafting sad)

WestWinger Sun 17-Jun-12 18:42:49

shelly your DH knows how to romance a lady, doesn't he?!?! smile

I'm not buying anything until after my scan (Weds) and even then am hoping to hold off for the sales.

DH21 your hubby does housework?? Please, please tell me your secret! As I'm a SAHM, everything in the house (except the bins) is classed as 'my' job. I'm a lucky girl, eh?

westwinger I'm a sahm mum too but I've managed to delegate the bins, kitchen floor and both bathrooms to dh!
Although I have had to keep reminding him for the past month few weeks to do the kitchen floor.

YellowWellies Sun 17-Jun-12 20:59:00

Right Mums and Mums to be - have just (literally in the last hour) developed some large red weals on my bump and sides - they are itchy. Do I need a docs appointment - have done the worst thing possible and asked Mr Google and am trying not to think of the conditions with such a rash that lead to maternal and fetal death or the ones that will make me itch for the next five months. Did anyone else get a rash on their bump? There are no obvious things like changes to washing powder or food allergies..... Arse I knew this second trimester was going too well!

Sophiathesnowfairy Sun 17-Jun-12 21:03:12

Sounds very strange, could you not phone the 24 hour NHS thingy line? Could it be stretchy skin itching as you bump gets bigger? Aa

Call nhs direct or the hospital. I'd def get them checked out, they might be nothing but as everyone says its better to be safe than sorry.
Let us know how you get on.

WestWinger Sun 17-Jun-12 21:18:11

YW that does sound odd. The suddenness with which they've appeared would make me think an allergy of some kind - I am no medical expert BTW. Do they hurt, or just itchy? Both sides? I'd guess it is nothing too serious but suggest you get checked out anyway, if only to try to relieve your discomfort.

I'll have a flick through my pregnancy books to see if they mention anything similar.

StuntNun Sun 17-Jun-12 21:26:27

YW have you got any hydrocortisone cream to help sooth the wheals?

WestWinger Mon 18-Jun-12 06:47:26

YW how are they this morning?

Passmethecrisps Mon 18-Jun-12 07:17:24

YW I would be pretty certain that you have been bitten by mites when you were out hunting for the kitty. However, if you can access a GP I would see one today.

Lilliana Mon 18-Jun-12 07:22:23

YW how is the bump this morning?

Been reading through but already forgotten most of what I have read - really need to work on my memory.

Spent most of yesterday in my PJ's, twas lovely!

Had lots of cramps at the bottom of the bump yesterday and this morning. Assuming it is everything stretching but hope it eases off soon.

To thoes that are looking at/have bought the vista can I ask where you got it and how much you have found it for? We're trawling the internet as not many baby shops around here and think £610 is the best price we've found so far (inc car seat), anyone know if we can beat that?

SwissArmyWife Mon 18-Jun-12 08:06:48

YW Sounds like bites of some kind, or possibly heat rash.
I hope all is ok!

Lilliana Found this: Ebay page

It's £350 buy it now and you could get the car seat seperately, still saving money! Looks like a good deal to me, if that's the one you're looking for. Plus you could always arrange a courier for it.

DD and I just had pancakes for brekkie as there is no bread for toast. Definitely a blessing in disguise grin

Anybody else feeling really drained lately? I feel so heavy and lazy most of the day, unless I have an afternoon nap. I'd quite like to be able to zoom around getting all the housework done like I used to instead of it looking like a tip because I feel like i'm stuck to the sofa!
I feel bad because DP does everything when he isn't at work blush
Well, apart from cook.. I don't let him near the cooker grin

Iheartpasties Mon 18-Jun-12 09:34:56

Hi Ladies,

YW how are the bites/bumps?

Well I'm to see the midwife for the 2nd time on weds. I should think it will be a quick in and then out type of appointment.

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 09:42:21

Morning!! Yw I've got red lines on my sides. Assuming the start of stretch marks? Or where my clothes are rubbing as my skin.

Had a brilliant day in London Saturday, managed to finally compete on Sunday and had a really good day out too!!! Won my classes which was just great!! Took the dads out for fathers day, dh loved his card, so all was good!!

Now in work ;/ and it's going to get busy!

mrswee Mon 18-Jun-12 09:59:04

YW I had a similar thing at the begining and stupidly googled, turned out to be non of those things and I am not sure what it was, doctor accussed my cats of having fleas and gave me some lyclear which I didn't use after another google session put me off. I used this spray by nelsons on each bite/bump to stop it itching and they went away within a week. Also bought cats new collars and got DH to do a flea treatment but they weren't itching and saw no other eveidence.
glad the moggy returned, he won't be doing that again in a hurry

www.nelsonsnaturalworld.com/en-gb/uk/our-brands/nelsons-skin-range/pyrethrum-spray/

mrswee Mon 18-Jun-12 10:09:34

So an update.
I have had a hard weekend. been in and out of hospital 3 times including a saturday night stay.
I have unexplained abdominal pain. They really have no idea why but I keep getting episodes of terrible pain, yesterday was so bad the only pain I have had like it was when I was in labor with my DD except this lasted 4 hours, not coming and going with contractions, just there the whole time. They have given me dyhydrocodein which has worked but didn't yesterday. The pain just subsided by it's self and I was ok when a doctor could finally see me.
I have had all manner of tests. Baby is fine, cervix still closed. They just don't know but say that at this stage they are happy with the baby and see the pregnancy as doing fine. Which is a relief.
I am off work all week and we will see after that. It's possible I have been doing too much, had a very busy physical week this week. So shellybobbs rest, don't end up like me!!

I have a scan today at 11.50 for my own reassurence. They don't think it will show up anything bad but let me have it after I have such a scary weekend. So fingers crossed I get to see a happy little baby again today!

I was planning to start my mat leave on my birthday the 9th of Nov. But it might be earlier. I hope all will go back to normal and I can start then because I probably can't take as long off this time as we are much more pushed for money these days. bah.

mrswee sorry to hear you are having a rough time. I hope you start to feel better soon.

Have they ruled out gall stones or have you been scanned for them? I know a lot of women who suddenly develop gall stones during pregnancy. I have gall stones and it is awful. So painful. I have never given birth but some women say it is more painful than childbirth! Luckily for me I haven't had an attack since I was around 8 weeks pregnant.

Maybe worth mentioning to the hospital next time you are there?

SwissArmyWife Mon 18-Jun-12 12:18:42

mrswee it sounds like you have had an awful time of it - i'm so sorry to hear. Thank god the baby is ok though, and I hope your scan went well.
I think you should take as much time off as you can get away with, it sounds like you need to do some serious resting up!

mrswee Mon 18-Jun-12 12:38:29

Hi again
Just had the scan and baby was fine. Sonographer said the pregnancy looked fine and no cysts or anything like that.
I have asked about gallbladder and kidney stones. They said there would have been indicators in my bloods if OT was a problem like that.
So far today I just have a really sore back, which was part of the pain yesterday but not all of it.
I've probably done my back in sitting for hours on end on these mean unforgiving chairs they have at the hospital!

georgee Mon 18-Jun-12 12:52:06

So glad all well with the baby mrswee, you must have been pretty concerned. Glad you've had a thorough checking over too, that is a reassurance.

Not the same really at all but with my last pregnancy I had a lot of cramps in my first trimester, this time much more in my second. Yesterday they were as strong as they ever have been (though nowhere near yours) and we're at the same stage of course. Maybe it's something to do with second pregnancies. Hope the pain continues to improve.

Cross fingers this is just one of those weird things associated with this stage and that it will be a distant memory by the time you come to take mat leave.

YW hope all improving with your skin. I've heard (not sure where from) you can develop allergies in pregnancy to things that never bothered you before. Might be something to consider. Although it would probably help if I had more evidence for that than something I remember hearing!

DonnaDoon Mon 18-Jun-12 12:54:40

Glad youve been given the all clear MrsWee. From what youve described it sounds like youve had ' rooming in' which is what I had a few weeks ago...perhaps babys had a growth spurt and all your pain is from everything getting shoved over to make room for him/her. When I had it I literally thought I was in labour too...and yes it is time to start slowing down and put your feet up...you must listen to your body x

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 13:35:30

Mrswee glad the baby is fine and everything appears normal? I've not really got anything to add other than muscles ripping? That's agony? Anyway rest up and take it easy!!

WestWinger Mon 18-Jun-12 14:09:11

mrswee so pleased all is ok. Make sure you do rest and take extra care of yourself.

mrswee sounds painful, glad it all seems to be ok now. Rest as much as you can!

Cacacaz Mon 18-Jun-12 16:13:35

mrswee I'm glad all is okay with baby, can't even begin to imagine the worry and stress you have been under.

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 16:25:59

Is anyone buying nappies yet? Just wondering when to start!!

kirrinIsland Mon 18-Jun-12 16:34:36

mrswee glad the baby is ok. Make sure you rest up and take it easy.

horsey I bought nappies every other week or so from about 20 weeks with DD, put them in a cupboard and promptly forgot all about them. I did remember in time to use some of them but I still have 5 packets that will do for this ine when it arrives!

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 16:50:45

Ok brill. They just had offers on, wasn't sure how many is too many and how many they use? Would you just buy new born size? Or some bigger too?

horsey my dad has bought me two big boxes of huggies newborn nappies which I have worked out should be enough for the first month. I plan on buying more in the next size up as well.

Lilliana Mon 18-Jun-12 17:03:21

I have got some nappies that I had vouchers for to make sure I used them before they expired, none that I've paid for though!

Thanks for the link Swiss have watched it so I can show DH when he gets home. Also had to say mmmmm pancakes, I've eaten a few batches since getting pg and love them.

I think I've felt kicks today grin was getting abit worried but assembly must have been boring for baby as he/she started kicking away!

Glad all is ok with baby Mrswee and hope you feel better soon too.

ValiumQueen Mon 18-Jun-12 17:09:46

I used washables for my first two, but am treating myself to disposables for this one. Washables are very cute, but give them a huge bum, so little clothes do not fit well IMO. Nappies are always on sale somewhere, and I can recommend Aldi ones for quality and price.

Nearly bought a vintage silver cross pram today, in grey jumbo cord. I did not, as I could not get the image of a soaking wet cold DD2 sitting on top of it. Have pretty much decided on a Phil and Teds.

Scan tomorrow, gulp!

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 17:13:22

Apple how many is that? Yes collecting vouchers!!

Vallium looking at reusables, how many of those do you need? Thought I'd use disposables for when we went out/away etc and prob for first few days!! Do they cause much extra washing? Sorry if I'm sounding totally dumb but I literally have no idea how many nappies a baby cab get through in a day?!!

StuntNun Mon 18-Jun-12 17:25:34

Horsey over ten a day in the first few days down to a minimum of about four when they're on solids and approaching potty training.

Do they really get through 10 a day? I think I said I had a months worth based on using about 6 a day? Oh I might have to rethink then. I am pretty clueless though.

Thechick Mon 18-Jun-12 17:29:39

mrswee sorry about your awful weekend, glad its better now.

horseylady I honestly haven't even thought about nappies. Im 18 weeks so Im not sure how ahead you guys are. We havent even decided if we are going to use disposables. Not sure if Im being too laid back about all of this baby malarky??

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 17:34:54

Vallium also good luck for the scan!!! Are you finding out the sex?!!

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 17:38:43

Chick 21 weeks!! To be honest I was in sainsburys, they'd got an offer on and I thought is it too soon? I decided yes but am now changing my mind if they get through 10(?!) a day!!!!! I also need to work out the sizes too. Right an hour for my next supermarket trip!!

shanelle5 Mon 18-Jun-12 17:49:21

On the subject of nappies, im going for reusables again, mostly on a cost front they are SOOOOO much cheaper and I happen to love the big bum squidgy look too smile although the tots bots all in ones are now so small they are no bigger so they have improved a lot. My delivery came today of 8 fluffy, soft, white, yummy bamboo nappies which cost £38.00. I will make it up to 20 before babies born, spending around £100-£150 and the average cst of disposables over a 2 year period is over £1000 shock And thats without even mentioning the cost to the environment.
Im just tight and also a bit of a hippy mum, not for everyone but just thought as it was mentioned, if anyone is interested or wants any advice, happy to give it. Hope I dont sound like a condesending old bat! Ill get off my soapbox now blush On a different topic, my stomach muscles keep doing that ripping thing, its bloody agony! Ive been sneezing a lot and however I hold mself, most times I get it. I went to aqua natal last Friday and struggled through the class, Its starting to pee me off but I guess after 5 pregnancies my poor "muscles" are quite f*** wink

ShellyBobbs Mon 18-Jun-12 17:54:22

Horsey as a rule, change them about every 3 hours.

MrsWee It sounds awful everything you've been through this weekend, hope you are feeling much better and your mind is at peace that everything is OK with the baby. I'll take your advise and not do so much, it has to be your body telling you. Stay in bed as much as you can.

YW You can become allergic to loads of ordinary stuff all the way through pregnancy due to surging hormones. Don't know if it was here but there was a discussion about not being allowed false eyelashes in salons due to risks of allergies to the glue. It could even be the material of your clothes that have suddenly thrown up an allergy, sounds like it's quite concentrated around your midrift so have you got new knickers, pants etc.?

Well didn't get my lazy day, it was just too nice but I do have a new bag and purse to show for missing a bit of kip. Also have some new business cards and leaflets that are very swanky that we picked up today smile

How much weight are you all putting on? I put 5lb on last week! Can't even blame it on crap food because I'm still on my health binge.

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 17:56:40

Shanelle I'm defo interested!!!!

ShellyBobbs Mon 18-Jun-12 18:02:20

Horsey Forgot to add, I'm going to start stocking up on the first 3 sizes as soon as I've had the scan. If everything goes OK with the scan then there will be no stopping me baby shopping.

Also I've bought my lot all their school uniforms for September, how good am I, after July's wage goes on baby stuff I'm getting my xmas shopping done while I'm still getting a full wage. Managed to secure myself a moses basket for free today smile

NervousAt20 Mon 18-Jun-12 18:23:31

Good luck with your scan to tomorrow valium will you be finding out the sex?

DH I've had a look at the voucher and there's no online code and it has a barcode for the shop, not sure if scanning it then emailing would work or to post?

With nappies I picked up the started box from
Asda which you get a voucher for when you join there mother and baby club and have picked up a pack of newborns that we're on offer

Since I found out I was preg I've gained 7 pounds

shanelle5 Mon 18-Jun-12 18:29:19

Horsey, inbox me with any questions and ill be happy to help. Meanwhile, these are the ones I use www.littlelambnappies.com
or these ones really are as easy and slim as disposables. The initial outlay seems a lot but they are birth to potty so you save at least £800 over the 2 years even with washing costs.
www.totsbots.com/products/range/easyfit/

nervous does it have an expiry date because we wouldn't be buying it til the last min so we can save up the amount.

ValiumQueen Mon 18-Jun-12 18:46:48

I used fuzzibunz and probably will again after your comments shannelle as I did like the squidgy bum. I would use dispos if out and about. I found mine weed so much. I had twelve and washed each day. I will look at totsbots again. I thought they were really bulky, but that was 6 years ago.

My trust do not disclose gender so I will be looking for boy bits. I think it is a boy. Another scan at 34 weeks so am thinking about not paying for a private scan. We are thinking of Silas for a boy. Thoughts please...

NervousAt20 Mon 18-Jun-12 18:50:23

The expiry is 31 Aug DH

Off to watch men and black tonight :-)!!

shanelle5 Mon 18-Jun-12 18:55:37

Valium, I like Silas. Its different without being weird and it reads as it sounds iyswim. does it go with your sirname?

blonderthanred Mon 18-Jun-12 19:09:04

I'm thinking of reusables so that's really interesting Shanelle. I was looking at the Pop-Ins, anyone any experience of them? We saw a demo at the baby show and it was about £170 for a box of 20 including night-time inserts and some freebies like a nappy bin, liners etc.

Lovely bright colours too. White looks so beautiful but I'm sure after a few washes it might not! We'll probably use some disposables too for travelling etc.

So nervous for my scan tomorrow. Please let everything be ok!

Passmethecrisps Mon 18-Jun-12 19:14:37

I am really interested in the reusable nappies business. Is 20 enough? So they fit right up to potty training? I said to a frown recently that we were thinking about reusables. His repsonse . . . "oh aye. I remember thinking they would be a good idea". Read in the news that several councils in Scotland and trialling a nappy recycling scheme - separate bin with weekly pick ups. Would certainly make using both more manageable.

mrswee your weekend sound awful. Keep resting - sounds like nature
Is telling you to chill.

Passmethecrisps Mon 18-Jun-12 19:15:49

Good luck with the scans tomorrow blonder and valium

SwissArmyWife Mon 18-Jun-12 19:22:45

I used reusables for a little while with DD, the little lamb ones, bamboo and organic cotton. They have their good and bad points.

I think for me I was just too tired (and lazy) to use them in the end, DD was very high maintenance (still is!) and I just couldn't be bothered with them grin

But I definitely agree they save a lot of money in the long run and are much better for the environment. smile

Good luck with the scans tomorrow, and valium, Silas is a lovely name imo smile

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 19:25:06

What about if lo goes to nursery? Would they use these or is it disposables only? Guess I could ask. Erm put on about 1kg I think. Have a feeling im about to rapidly grow!! Baby kicking away wanting more space having to wear looser fitting clothes now as it dislikes buttons lol.

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 19:27:08

We looked at silas but discounted it due to our surname. Luke or caleb are currently on our list!!

TheDetective Mon 18-Jun-12 19:30:10

I remember with DS, 10 years ago, the nurseries around where we lived refused to use reusables, and insisted on having disposables. Anyone else ever had this?

Wasn't a problem for us, as we used disposables, mum used to get us a big box every month, from costco I think it was.

For us, we need the ease of disposables, as we don't have the drying space for anything really. It isn't a practical thing for us.

We will be getting the ones from kiddicare, 240 nappies for £20, which will last us a month. We will start off with pampers though for the newborn size, as I have consistently found these better for newborn sizes than other brands. Less leakage!!

I have 2 packs of 27 already, and plan to get 2-3 more. The first size are usually fine for about a month. I will get 2 boxes in size 3 too.

Don't do what I saw someone do the other week - put a size 4 on a newborn. I'm not sure what that mother was thinking! It was a 6lb baby for goodness sake! It leaked everywhere, right over ME!!

TheDetective Mon 18-Jun-12 19:30:54

Cross post there Horsey!!

ShellyBobbs Mon 18-Jun-12 19:34:26

Detective A 6 lb baby, yes please smile

Sophiathesnowfairy Mon 18-Jun-12 19:42:17

Good luck to all the scans tomorrow.

Please could I have one of those 6 lb babies too? Preferably with a smallish head.

I am defo using disposables. I have enough washing as it is thank you. However you have all got me thinking I should start slipping them I into the trolley every couple of weeks.

MrsWee what an exhausting weekend you have had emotionally and physically. Make the most of your week at home.

I am getting nervous about my scan on Thursday. I worry that I have had my share with three healthy babies. This is probably a completely ridiculous worry but there it is. I could cry actually and would just like to get it over with.

I was only 6lbs when I was born so hoping I will have a similar size baby. Please don't let it be a whopper!

I was only 6lbs when I was born so hoping I will have a similar size baby. Please don't let it be a whopper!

Bloody mobile double posting. I'm in the middle of switching my broadband provider to help cut costs before baby arrives so can't go on the laptop today. I miss my laptop.

Bloody mobile double posting. I'm in the middle of switching my broadband provider to help cut costs before baby arrives so can't go on the laptop today. I miss my laptop.

YellowWellies Mon 18-Jun-12 19:56:45

Well helpful elderly bloke locum doc didn't even examine me and sent me off with a pat on the head as a silly paranoid woman. He plain refused to admit that there are any conditions in pregancy that can cause a rash (he hadn't heard of any of the six on the NHS website) and told me to use anthisan.... facepalm. Is there any wonder that anyone with half a brain cell after receiving a diagnosis by telepathy and indifference like that would consider consulting Mr Google.

Mrswee sounds like you've had a hideous weekend sad - hope you feel better soon and whatever it is disappears as quickly as it arrived with no damage done.

YellowWellies Mon 18-Jun-12 20:00:23

Did anyone read this article? www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/jun/16/breasts-breastfeeding-milk-florence-williams
Fascinating reading but worrying in places that our damage to the environment is now being passed onto our young by a toxic load carried within our bodies and breast milk. Despite this I'm going to try - you look at the wonders in it and there is no way we're smart enough to recreate this in dehydrated cows milk dust! But it is making me think twice about extended breast feeding which I had wanted to do.... what are other folks plans? Or is that a taboo topic?

I still haven't felt any movement sad well I don't think I have. I sometimes think I've felt something but then I might have imagined it. I've got an anterior placenta so that could be the issue. What are your movements like? I'm quite big so I'd have thought is be feeling something soon.

Been out looking for cars this evening. We want something cheaper and maybe smaller but has to fit an Oyster in the boot. We keep getting distracted by brand new cars though grin

daisychain76 Mon 18-Jun-12 20:17:48

That must be so irritating YW and quite worrying if a doc is that ignorant those conditions. mrswee I hope you are having a better time now.

I am very interested in using reusable nappies this time, but my head starts spinning as soon as they are discussed, as there just seems so many options. I basically want the simplest possible, with the least amount of fiddling around putting bits together, if anyone has any recommendations.

I am going to work literally up til labour starts. I do one job for 6.5 hours per week so not entitled to maternity pay, so only taking my 4 weeks of annual holiday as leave from that. Will take three months from my other job and about the same from my phd, I think. As I work from home, this makes it a bit easier (I hope). Unless I win the lottery, in which case I will ditch them all for a couple of years!

StuntNun Mon 18-Jun-12 20:48:55

ApplePie just to clarify they only need 10 nappies in the first week or so when they're feeding all the time. If you breastfeed then they usually poo within a few minutes of being fed because breastmilk is digested so quickly. If you formula feed then it takes a bit longer but they are fuller for longer so they don't need to be fed as often. The nappies aren't bad at all when they're getting milk, it's just when you start them on solids that the bad smells start!

kirrinIsland Mon 18-Jun-12 20:55:05

Silas is a great name Valium unusual without being wacky - love it smile

Good luck to everyone with scans tomorrow - there's quite a few of you if memory serves?! not me though, mine's now on Wed, but I haven't updated the stats list

blonderthanred Mon 18-Jun-12 20:56:31

That's so crap YW. How dare they not take you seriously.

I am sure it is none of the bad things but pregnancy itching and allergies still interferes with your life and needs to be taken seriously.

I always thought I would formula feed as my mum did with me and it didn't do me any harm. But I would consider breastfeeding even if only to start with and will definitely look into it more before I make a decision. Gosh there are so many things to think about when you have a baby. I never realised. We are also considering changing our car (though DP doesn't know it yet) because we only have a little Renault Megane and I'm worrying it will be a bit on the small side with a Labrador and a baby.

I always thought I would formula feed as my mum did with me and it didn't do me any harm. But I would consider breastfeeding even if only to start with and will definitely look into it more before I make a decision. Gosh there are so many things to think about when you have a baby. I never realised. We are also considering changing our car (though DP doesn't know it yet) because we only have a little Renault Megane and I'm worrying it will be a bit on the small side with a Labrador and a baby.

Little9 Mon 18-Jun-12 21:06:45

Hello all. Sorry, had a very sad weekend and haven't caught up with thread so no idea what is happening with everyone. Hope everyone has had and will have good news at their scans.

Unfortunately, my waters broke on Friday at 20+1 weeks. I gave birth to a beautiful baby girl yesterday evening, who unfortunately did not get to take her first breath - we named her Daisy.

I am ok as can be in the situation, and am very lucky to have such a supportive husband and friends and family.

I hope you all go on to have wonderful and successful pregnancies. I hope to be back on here soon with good news, fc, as we will be trying again! Hopefully third time lucky. Thank you for all your support and advice over the last few months.

Take care and rather than say goodbye, I shall say speak to you later and good luck.

MissMummy1 Mon 18-Jun-12 21:11:02

We were set on reusables until my DH's pain in the arse know-it-all-sister darling SIL pointed out we have next to no drying space and they're a nightmare to launder. (She also told us she hated all of our potential name choices because they were, and I quote, "too Scottish" - hello where does she think we live?! DH may be norn irish but I'm a Scot!!!)

I've had a look at the kiddicare nappies as well detective. Are they the ones you can trade unopened ones for a bigger size? £20 for a month's supply sounds ideal if they're as good as the reviews would have us belief. Anyone else got any experience of this???

YW your locum sounds as useless as my midwife!! Has it cleared up at all? Saw a few people had suggested they might be bites, was wondering that myself. A possibility maybe? Hope it clears up soon. xx Also re breastfeeding article, did your lovely sister post it on fb recently? I'm sure I read it somewhere the other night! I'd heard of these risks of toxins passing onto baby from us during a case study in 2nd year uni. Perhaps naively, I plan to BF for 6 months then switch to bottle/solids. In theory...

Fatima I too haven't felt any definite movements yet sad Keep trying to convince myself every flutter is something but no real kicks. I also have an anterior uterus - ie tilts back into my spine - so maybe that has something to do with it?

Mrswee glad everything seems to be okay. Must have been bliddy terrifying! Rest up and hope you feel better soon!

MissMummy1 Mon 18-Jun-12 21:17:28

little9 I am so sorry - can't imagine what you're going through. sad Take care and all the very best xxxx

Oh little that is heartbreaking. I'm so sorry sad Glad to hear you have lots of support. Take care of yourself and I hope to read some good news from you soon xx

Oh little that is heartbreaking. I'm so sorry sad Glad to hear you have lots of support. Take care of yourself and I hope to read some good news from you soon xx

horseylady Mon 18-Jun-12 21:26:42

So sorry little. I hope you're ok. Take care.

Sophiathesnowfairy Mon 18-Jun-12 21:30:19

little9 what sad news. Take care and take lots of time to nuture yourself.

kirrinIsland Mon 18-Jun-12 21:30:54

little I'm so sorry sad What an awful thing to happen. Thinking of you and your family. Take care of yourself xxx

Kyzordz Mon 18-Jun-12 21:31:02

So sorry Little sad can't imagine what you're going through, glad you have lots of support, take care xx

WestWinger Mon 18-Jun-12 21:31:15

little I am so sorry to hear such sad news. Wish you all the best and look forward to hearing from you again soon. xxxx

blonderthanred Mon 18-Jun-12 21:33:05

I'm so, so sorry little.

little that is such sad news. I wish you all the best. Look after yourself xx

Chunkychicken Mon 18-Jun-12 21:38:10

So, so sorry Little. Wishing you all the best for a longer pregnancy next time, take care of yourself xx

PetiteRaleuse Mon 18-Jun-12 21:47:13

little9 i am so sorry to read your news sad

Little9 So sorry for your news, sending my love to you and your family at this sad time. Daisy is a beautiful name, I'm sure she was beautiful too xxx

Oh little9 I am so so sorry... I know so very well what you are going through... It will be my DD2's first heavenly birthday this Wednesday... I lost her at 20+4 weeks last year. We discovered she had died at my 20 week scan. If you'd like to talk to someone about it, please do pm me! x

Cacacaz Mon 18-Jun-12 22:05:38

little9 I am so sorry to hear about your beautiful baby girl, please know that I am thinking about you and your family. Daisy is such a pretty name too, rest in peace baby Daisy xx

NervousAt20 Mon 18-Jun-12 22:12:41

little9 I am so so sorry! My thoughts are with you and your family and I hope you have lots f care and support to get through this time! Take care x x x

ValiumQueen Mon 18-Jun-12 22:28:10

So sorry little9. Daisy is a beautiful name, and I was so touched by your comments x

YellowWellies Mon 18-Jun-12 23:06:21

Oh little9 I'm so so sorry. I can't imagine what you're going through. Sending lots of love to you and yours - jeez don't know what to say. xxxxx

shanelle5 Mon 18-Jun-12 23:07:42

Little, there are no adequate words but (((((((( HUGS)))))))))) an prayers to you and your DH. xxx

daisychain76 Mon 18-Jun-12 23:07:56

Such sad news little9, take care x

little I'm so sorry to hear that, I can't imagine what you've been through. Please take care of yourself (((hugs)))

Thechick Tue 19-Jun-12 07:05:07

little I am so sorry to hear your news. Your positive attitude is amazing. Please do take good care of yourself. xx

georgee Tue 19-Jun-12 07:08:16

Oh little9, how very sad. Am so sorry and am thinking of you. Take care. xx

PetiteRaleuse Tue 19-Jun-12 07:42:51

It somehow didn't feel right to write this yesterday but yesterday morning I had my scan and ti was confirmed that I'm expecting DD2. I had started feeling her move around about two weeks before and felt her regularly for about a week. And then nothing for days on end, so by the time yesterday came round I was very worried but she was fine. Dr can't understand how I wasn't able to feel her - maybe she's kicking on scar tissue?

Have a week off work this week and feeling the urge to nest - de-clutter, clean etc. This urge only happens during pregnancy and since this is the last baby I had better make the most of it.

My next scan, and that horrible sugar test thing, will be in August. Would usually be before but my Dr is going on holiday the selfish lucky man.

ShellyBobbs Tue 19-Jun-12 08:06:52

Oh Little so sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you and your family.

eversomuch Tue 19-Jun-12 08:10:29

So very sorry to hear your news, Little9. Am very moved and impressed by your positive attitude, despite such a devastating loss, and I hope you are indeed back soon. Thinking of you.

eversomuch Tue 19-Jun-12 08:12:41

Congratulations on another girl, Petite. Great news. Enjoy your week off nesting!

SwissArmyWife Tue 19-Jun-12 08:13:17

little I am so sorry for what you've been through. Sleep well little Daisy x x x
I wish you all the best for the future and of course will keep an eye out for any good news you may have. Biggest of hugs to you x

stabiliser15 Tue 19-Jun-12 09:26:25

little9, so sorry to hear your news. Thinking of you and your family.

StuntNun Tue 19-Jun-12 09:35:33

Little9 so sorry to hear your sad news about your baby. Please look after yourself and get support. Mumsnet is great for that as so many of us have had losses and know what you're going through. I hope you will feel able to keep an eye on us even though it will make you sad I think it helps to cope with your loss. I think a miscarriage has the same effect as losing a child, you will always carry thoughts of your Daisy in your heart. Good luck to you in these next few difficult weeks.

ditsygem Tue 19-Jun-12 10:09:58

So sorry Little9 that is heartbreaking news. Know that we are all thinking of you. xxx

LittleLolly Tue 19-Jun-12 10:23:35

So sorry little. I can't imagine how you must feel. Daisy is a beautiful name for your little girl. Take care of yourself xxxx

Gosh little I don't know what to say. Your optimism is amazing. I wish you and your family all the best for the future, looking forward to seeing your name on future threads with good news before too long x

Iheartpasties Tue 19-Jun-12 12:02:29

sad news little9 (((hugs)))

Lane81 Tue 19-Jun-12 14:24:31

Such sad news little9, take of yourself.

TheDetective Tue 19-Jun-12 14:32:25

Oh Little I am so sorry to hear such awful news. You are so brave to come back here and talk about your beautiful daughter, Daisy, with us.

It is just heartbreaking to hear, I can not imagine what you and your husband must be going through. You are a strong woman.

Wishing you the very best for your future, and please do keep coming back to share any future news you have, or just for support. And I second what Stunt said about MN, there are boards which will give you the space to talk about what you need to, and provide you with much needed support.

Detective x

DonnaDoon Tue 19-Jun-12 14:39:26

Little I am so sorry for you and your husband...sending lots of love and thoughts to you and beautiful baby Daisy x

ValiumQueen Tue 19-Jun-12 15:14:41

Scan went well. All seems fine. Baby was awkward with positioning so took some time. I did ask if she had an opinion on colour schemes but she said she was not allowed to say. Will book gender scan for next few weeks.

Congrats petite and glad your scan went well valium. My trust does tell you the gender but I have known two people recently that have had babies and they haven't been able to tell them because of baby's position.

I asked DP if we would wait until November if they can't tell us but he said no, we will book a private scan. We just want a healthy baby but think it's much more practical to know if it's a girl or boy. Also I hate saying 'it' all the time. I want to know if it's a he or she.

shanelle5 Tue 19-Jun-12 15:38:37

Im very excited for my scan tomorrow, though after such sad news here esterday, it feels wrong to say so. Still thinking of little.....
Really hoping to find out the gender, keep reminding myself its not the sole purpose of the scan and that I get to see that bub is healthy above all else but with 4 children already all of the same sex, its hard to think about much else!

ValiumQueen Tue 19-Jun-12 16:28:07

I feel the same too Shanelle, about Little. I think we will hold our little ones that bit more closer because of such losses. I have a RL friend who was due at the same time as me, and she lost her little one at 10 weeks. When I had my bleed at 18 weeks I naturally feared the worse, and that was so upsetting. Prayers for all our little ones, but especially for Little9 , her husband, and dear little Daisy x

I need to know the gender too, so if it is another girl I can grieve the son I will never have. I can imagine the feelings are even stronger with 4 already. Perhaps you will have a few more babies, but I know this is my last. My finger is poised to book a scan for Sunday...

Congrats on the scan valium smile

apple I still say 'it' even though I know its a girl! It seems so strange saying 'her' though as we have ds Im so used to saying 'him'!

My mum had recurrent miscarriages after she had me hence why there is a gap of 8 years between me and my brother. So I never take it for granted that everything will be ok. I’ve always said I won’t completely believe it until I hold my baby in my arms. At the moment I see every week as a milestone.

I was just feeling my bump and prodded a bit too hard (ouch!) but I'm sure I felt the baby, hard lump over to the right.

You can't hurt it by prodding too hard can you? confused

blonderthanred Tue 19-Jun-12 18:04:07

Have you felt how hard the sonographers dig in DH?!

Brockle Tue 19-Jun-12 18:34:31

Sorry you lot gab too much I am only at page 13 but just had to say how sorry I am Little. Daisy is a gorgeous name and I don't know what else to say I am just so sorry and wish you the very best for the future.

Brockle Tue 19-Jun-12 18:40:20

I agree apple, I have two DC's but I still strike each week as a safe one. I breath a little easier at 24 weeks, a little easier at 28 and relax a lot at 34/35. Life is too precious to be complacent.

yellow I did not read the guardian article (about to) but breastfed both mine until they were a year old. When I went back to work I did a mixture of breast and formula. DS1 weaned himself really but DS2 had to be dissuaded. Its bloody hardwork at first but I think it benefitted them. They have cast iron stomachs and I think we have only had one ear infection between them. Was good for weightloss too. I will step down from my soap box now. smile

Passmethecrisps Tue 19-Jun-12 19:14:49

What sad news little. Sage reminder really that we should be repeating the mantra of early days -"today I am pregnant and I will enjoy it"

Sports day today in the unexpected sunshine! Lovely to get some vitimin D. I took it easy for a change and sat down - even the short bursts of hauling equipment about have left me a bit achy.

Little9 Tue 19-Jun-12 19:30:07

Thanks for all your messages and comments. I shall certainly be spying on you all and keeping everything crossed for you.

Please do not feel bad about celebrating your good news. Hearing others good news makes it a little easier, knowing that no-one is having to go through this awful event.

Today, you are all pregnant.... so bl**dy well enjoy it!!!! grin

P.S. (My husband is currently terrorising the cats and dogs with the remote control helicopter I bought him for his birthday last week. What was I thinking??)

horseylady Tue 19-Jun-12 19:45:29

Little ((hugs)) you sound so positive. My friend sounds similar to you, she lost her little boy at 28 weeks last year and is due this winter. She's so positive about everything it's wonderful. I wished last night I could hug my little one, but just hugged the bump instead. I wish you all the best for the future I really do.

Vallium glad all was ok, shanelle good luck!

I can't remember who posted the bf article but it's worth considering that all the toxins in the environment and ingested by yourself will be passed onto the baby while your pregnant, there will be no additional ones so to speak while breastfeedinh that they won't already be exposed to (alcohol maybe?) so don't let things like that put you off. I will try to bf if it doesn't work, then I'll have to use formula.

blonderthanred Tue 19-Jun-12 20:27:26

Little, that's the most beautiful sentiment and it has moved me a great deal. Like the others I am holding my bump that little bit tighter today. I told DH what had happened as he saw I was upset and he has shed a tear too. I wish you every joy for the future. xx

MrsSkinnyLegs Tue 19-Jun-12 20:41:51

little my heart goes out to you, I'm sorry that Daisy could only stay awhile. Our family was in a similar position to yours a couple of years ago and whilst it was a horrid time, we found great solace in appreciating the little time we spent with our baby before wishing him on his way. Good luck and all the best for the future. xxx

GTbaby Tue 19-Jun-12 20:46:34

hiya,

Just wondering about private 3D scans... anyone had one is london? what prices are they?

i missed the group on offer, as i didn't think DH wanted it, but now he has changed his mind...

Chunkychicken Tue 19-Jun-12 21:56:28

Little I am in awe of your positivity.

I am a HUGE breastfeeding advocate. Think it was totally worth doing with DD, despite the first few problematic weeks, and will do it for #2 if possible. There are masses of benefits to it, for both Mum & baby and it is definitely worth at least trying I think. If it doesn't work out, formula is adequate to meet baby's needs BUT it so much more expensive & time-consuming in comparison. There are always scare stories & to be honest, how can formula be toxin free given its made up with the same water we drink...??!! Plus, breastmilk is free. grin

ValiumQueen Tue 19-Jun-12 22:01:25

I loved breastfeeding! We did a lot of camping when DD2 was small, and it was so easy just flopping a bap out whenever she was hungry.

ValiumQueen Tue 19-Jun-12 22:03:33

Scan in stirling is 80 quid. Just 3D. No doubt more expensive in London. I miss London. Used to live in Brixton. When I first moved I could not sleep as it was too quiet.

GTbaby Tue 19-Jun-12 22:46:17

The group on "offer" was £90! So hate to think what full price offer is. I think DH just wants another chance to see the tackle ! It's one of the reasons he won't let me tell ppl in rl. Cos he thinks "what if it was wrong".

Culturally there is a pressure for us to have a boy. Which upsets me. N I know it sounds silly. But I wanted a girl, but always thought if I did "ppl" will not b as happy. Which upset me cos I would love to have a girl.

Now I know I'm having a boy, the pressure is off I guess. But really it's made me realise, I just want a healthy baby. Funny how the "community" can put so much pressure on u sad with something like this. N I know ppl will say F them lol. N I think the same thing sometimes. But it's hard when ur amongst these ppl. Spesh as I live with PIL.

Ok that's a very random rant from me! blush guess I need to vent today.

Dixiebell Tue 19-Jun-12 22:49:45

I loved breastfeeding too first time round. Ended up doing it until ds was about 14 months when he sort of weaned himself. It took a few days to get going but once we both had the hang of it, it is so much more convenient than bottle! And just a lovely bonding experience. And ds didn't have a single cold or sniffle until after his first birthday. Just one bit of experience, I didn't realise that it could be so difficult to get him to drink milk from a bottle once he was used to bfing. At about 5 months i was a bridesmaid and wanted him to have bottle for the day to make things easier. About 6 weeks before we tried to get him used to drinking from it but he flat out refused! Even tho was breast milk. We tried loads but was no go. So gave up in end and he never did take bottle, went straight to beaker later on. Was pretty stressful at the time and I vowed that next time I'd introduce bottle for occasional feeds (pumped milk) from about a month, once bfing established. That way daddy also gets a go!

YellowWellies Tue 19-Jun-12 23:27:59

little you rock my dear. Your philosophical attitude and calm strength are amazing. I have no doubt of the pain you are suffering, but also no doubt that good things come to those who wait and those, like you with so much love and kindness to give. Take care xxx

On the breastfeeding debate, here's a fascinating rebuttal to the Guardian piece www.analyticalarmadillo.co.uk/2012/06/toxins-in-breastmilk-guardian.html?m=1 am a bit cross at the Guardian for scaremongering! (humans bioaccumulate toxins but guess what - so do cows and the crap is all in cows milk too, why did my fecktarded brain not figure out that simple logic! blush)

YellowWellies Tue 19-Jun-12 23:53:55

Can I suggest in case anyone else needs a little fun and laughter - I've just read this and cried, bellylaughed (and weeed - damnit) jezebel.com/5919206/cosmos-44-most-ridiculous-sex-tips - the bellydweller must have thought they were on a spacehopper I was shaking and roaring so much!

yellowwellies I've just read that article on your fb link, it's hilarious! I want to read his bad men sex tips now!

I bf ds til he was 15 months but after about a year I was fed up with it because I wanted my body back to start making baby number 2. I didn't have periods at all for the whole time I was bfing.

Also if anyone still wants to join the fb group you can now search for it. It's called Nov 12 Babies and you need to request to join. If you do can you still pm me your real name on here just so I know who's asking to be added, thanks!

Brockle Wed 20-Jun-12 07:34:25

GT I know where you are coming from. My husbands family just assumed we wanted a boy first and were obviously happier when they fiound out DS1 was a boy. Coming from a family of girls and having a Dad who only wanted girls we found it rather strange. I once spoke to my SILs mother in law and when I told her I was one of two girls she acted like there had been a tragedy in my family. My Dad was very amused! Healthy babies are what we want (and boys are excellent cuddlers!)

I wasglad I continued to BF until a year but I was glad to stop when I did. It is nice to get your body back but the BF bond is lovely too. Hope it works with DC3. I hate the media in relation to breastfeeding because there is no middle ground. It is either bad for baby or it is the only way to feed baby. No wonder women feel like failures if they formula feed and feel like social lepers if they BF in a public place. We do not give ourselves a break.

georgee Wed 20-Jun-12 07:39:11

Loved the sex tips (and couldn't help thinking 'thank goodness I'm past all that 'trying to impress some' shenanigans when you might actually consider stuff like this! I've got a terrible sense of co-ordination though so would probably end up doing the fella an injury, specially with those early ones).

Another breastfeeding advocate here. Free, sterile and portable. Brilliant when travelling, or out and about, don't have to think about preparing anything. I could never work out what to do with bottles (though like Dixie I probably should have tried earlier with bottles of expressed milk because she never took bottles either then, at any point!).

MrsSkinnyLegs Wed 20-Jun-12 08:12:44

Hello hello, can I join in? I'm due in November too : )

SwissArmyWife Wed 20-Jun-12 08:47:09

I'm definitely on the "breast is best" team, as it's natural and good for mother and baby in many ways. I was devastated when I had DD though as I was determined to breastfeed, only to be told she couldn't suck properly and wasn't getting enough. I then expressed as much as I could and gave it to her in bottles, and she still found it difficult. I had to use fast flow teats just so she got enough, and in the end switched to formula as my supply decreased. I felt so guilty and even tried to bring my supply back up and tried to get her to take to the breast again after she had got the hang of sucking properly - but as it goes, she was used to the bottle by then. sad
Still, i'll be trying again with this one as every baby is different!
I'm lucky too as DD has never been ill, and i'm rather proud of that, and just goes to show you can still have a healthy baby who is FF smile

(I've always been a bit of a health snob with her food though, no jars or anything, I wasn't even keen on rusks because I hadn't made them myself blush Still, she now chooses veg over chips any day so I guess my snobbery paid off. Maybe I was making up for the fact I didn't BF)

But women should not be judged for doing either, and FF has it's benefits, like handing the baby over to someone else for feeds while you get some much needed rest, and the Fuller For Longer trick so they sleep better wink

Sorry for rambling! Hope everyone is well today smile

SwissArmyWife Wed 20-Jun-12 08:48:34

P.S. Hello MrsSkinnyLegs, congratulations on your pregnancy! When are you due? We'll add you to the stats list smile

georgee Wed 20-Jun-12 09:10:26

Swiss I was FF back in the 70s as was my sister, BF doesn't work out for everyone and there's no rhyme or reason to it. I'm certainly not taking it for granted that it will work again.

Very impressed with your solids regime. I was jar queen with DD (I still do the odd one). And she loves chips, pizza, icecream. Anything she shouldn't have in fact!

Welcome MrsSkinnyLegs. smile and envy (the envy emoticon is for if you actually do have skinny legs).

StuntNun Wed 20-Jun-12 09:11:02

Swiss I can't believe you felt guilty when it sounds like you did everything possible to do the best for your baby. Not being able to bf is upsetting but you sound like a superb mother.

Dixie my DS2 was the same and never took a bottle, he had to go straight to an open cup. DS1 loved his bottle from the word go, my boobs were definitely the least preferred option. With this baby I'm going to try the bottles that are designed to be used alongside bfing.

NervousAt20 Wed 20-Jun-12 09:11:48

Welcome MrsSkinnyLegs when are you due?

I'm planning on breastfeeding well trying to after reading loads of info I'm well aware that it isn't always possible but also hoping to express as much as i can around a month old because I want DP to be able to be involved with feelings and have that bonding too and always it will be coming up to Christmas and I'm just not confident to breastfeed in a huge public place like that which will be very very busy

Congrats for all the good results on scans yday smile

Is anyone struggling to sleep on their left? I can sleep on any side but my L so trying to get into the habit and it's just not working angry its driving me mad being so restless all night

Welcome MrsSkinnyLegs, good to see more November babies on the way!

So my hayfever means I'm a constant sneezing machine at the moment, which isn't usually a problem, but last night I was lying in bed (on my left like a good girl) and I sneezed. WOW it was painful, I thought my stomach was coming apart! It was a distinct line of pain right across my belly. My poor DP didn't know what to do! Is this just my stomach muscles moving/changing?

Also, and TMI alert, but is anyone else's belly button becoming the most unholy disgustingly filthy place on the face of the planet. I shower each morning, but by the evening it's truly gross in there (and itchy) blush. Someone please tell me i'm not the only one!

Brockle Wed 20-Jun-12 09:39:35

I must admit nervous with DS2 he was very clingy to me and I think having DH involved in the feeds would have helped. Expressing and getting DP involved is a great idea.

My SIL had the same problems with her DS as you did with DD swiss and she felt guilty too but she has a wonderful healthy fantastic DS. Doing what is best for your DC's is the most important thing and it takes more guts to change tack and do what is right than persist with something that isn't working.

Had the chance to work today and build up some more flexi but my hips are not letting me sad Roll on my physio appointment on the 5th July

Anyone looked at changing bags yet?

The person that has asked to join the fb group can you pm me on here please just do I know it's you and not a random person!

I'm sure it's all fine but I really don't want to accept someone who hasn't mentioned it here first, thanks smile

stabiliser15 Wed 20-Jun-12 10:15:44

I am hoping to BF this baby too - had a bit of a tough time with DD (which I now think was a combination of cracked, sore nipples and massive overanxiety on my part about it all). I ended up mixed feeding after 3 weeks at the suggestion of the HV, which made me feel rubbish and sad and guilty and relieved all at once. BUT, it ultimately saved BF'ing for me - I managed to carry on part BF'ing until 20 weeks ish and if I hadnt mixed fed I would have been forced to abandon BF'ing a lot sooner as DD stopped putting on weight when I did EBF.

While I know there are issues associated with it (breast refusal, milk supply reduced etc), mixed feeding worked really well for us, DH was involved, I got some rest, and DD got some BM too. She didnt care whether she was given bottle, breast or nipple shields, she coped fine with them all and it meant that when I returned to work when she was 5 months old, she was already perfectly happy with a bottle.

Am hoping BF goes well this time but I plan to introduce bottles and probably topping up with formula reasonably soon in, for the reasons above and because I will be back to work in the same timescale and dont want to be BF'ing more than first/last thing by that point - admire people who do manage to express etc at work, but it isnt practical for me.

PetiteRaleuse Wed 20-Jun-12 10:18:56

I started off bf'ing with DD1 and have to admit I hated it. I am very bad with milk in general - can't handle it and spilt milk makes me nauseous - I actually chuck out sponges I have used to wipe up milk. So I mixed with ff the first few weeks and then had to go to hospital for a couple of weeks for another problem, so wasn't able to bf at all (or see DD, which was tough as she was only a couple of weeks old when I went in).

This time I will do the same (except for the scary hospital trip). I will ensure she gets the colostrum, and then once my milk comes in I will mix feed until I just can't hack it anymore.

I didn't expect to hate bf'ing - didn't realise my milk phobia would apply to me - and until I tried it was absolutely going to exclusively breast feed. I found expressing easier, so will maybe keep that up for longer.

I didn't feel guilty about the switch, though it was incredible how judgey some people (ie my mum) became about it -it caused some real rows with people in RL.

I think everyone does what is best for them. No-one wants to harm their baby but a happy medium has to be found.

There's a facebook group??

I am having trouble sleeping on my left - normally I sleep on my back but that is no longer very comfortable, so am switching from left to right and back again right through the night apparently. DH not amused.

horseylady Wed 20-Jun-12 10:25:42

I keep going all light headed :/ very odd. Will try drinking more but not really hungry sad happened last night so I went to bed.

I would like to bf, but accept that it may not be possible so will see what happens!!

Welcome missskinney!!

And to the person asking about changing bags? What do you need those for?!! Nappies etc when you go out? Sorry very thick question there's all sorts of things I've no idea about. I still need to brave pram shopping!!

I can only sleep on my left or belly. Any reason you want to sleep on your left?

shanelle5 Wed 20-Jun-12 10:27:04

I just tried reading through the sex tips link - I say try as no word of a lie, I only managed to get to no 19 and had to stop and bookmark it for later as I was laughing so much I started choking and felt like I was going to wee myself at the same time it was just too funny I couldnt cope! I think id got to the rhinestones and ketchup on the breasts part and that was me done. Huge LOL

horseylady Wed 20-Jun-12 10:27:12

I keep going all light headed :/ very odd. Will try drinking more but not really hungry sad happened last night so I went to bed.

I would like to bf, but accept that it may not be possible so will see what happens!!

Welcome missskinney!!

And to the person asking about changing bags? What do you need those for?!! Nappies etc when you go out? Sorry very thick question there's all sorts of things I've no idea about. I still need to brave pram shopping!!

I can only sleep on my left or belly. Any reason you want to sleep on your left?

ShellyBobbs Wed 20-Jun-12 10:29:19

Breast fed my 3 for a year each, but my lad was a greedy little thing so from 6 months I had to put a formula feed in the mix, there is still no filling him now he's 10. Like everyone else, the girls wouldn't entertain a bottle or dummy and went straight onto beakers. I wasn't bothered about other people, I used to just wap them out where ever we were, I got a few tuts but nobody ever dared say anything to me, I even wrote to my local MP when I had my first (12 years ago) to ask him to bring up a question in parliament about why there wasn't a clear law about a nursing mother being asked to leave cafe's etc. when in Scotland it was. Thankfully they've seen the light now.

I've now got my maternity belt FANTASTIC! If you suffer from back ache then I would highly recommend you to get one, I've also not had as many aches and pains in the old groin area since wearing it. I got mine off ebay from this seller here fast delivery and it's really high quality, I got this one because it all fastens on the side rather than the top where the bulk would show (by the way, I don't know the seller, just my recommendation).

Almost caught up on my sleep now, had a bit of a kip yesterday but mother phoning woke me up, first phone call off her in a year and only to check if I can still take her to hospital angry!

eversomuch Wed 20-Jun-12 10:31:05

DD is 15 months old and still BFing. I'm really happy we've been able to do it. I wanted to, but was aware that many women have difficulty. We had a few nursing strikes last year, which were very stressful, and then for a while, she'd only take breastmilk in bottles, so I was pumping endlessly (or so it seemed!), but by 8 months or so, she went back to the boob exclusively and now doesn't know what to do with a bottle.

I had hoped to BF for the first year, but we're both happy carrying on for now and DH is nothing but supportive, so I don't plan to stop. I guess I'm being a little bit lazy and just hoping she'll wean herself without my having to do much work, LOL. But I won't be surprised if I end up tandem feeding. Should probably read up in that sometime. smile

A friend of mine was devastated when she couldn't BF, but her LO is now 4yo and healthy and happy, and my friend now says she couldn't care less that she had to FF. So don't be too hard on yourself if BF doesn't work out.

ShellyBobbs Wed 20-Jun-12 10:33:29

Horsey nappies, cream, wipes, bottle of water/baby juice, calpol, formula milk and bottle with water, travel changing mat, bonjela, dummies, rattles etc. This is all just off the top of my head and this is the BARE MINIMUM ie. nipping to the shop shock

Regarding your lighthead smile how is your blood pressure? Mine is always really low when pregnant, it might be that.

horsey the babycentre app told me today that low blood pressure is common in the 2nd tri which can make you feel dizzy/ light headed.

I get it pretty much everyday too esp when I stand up too quickly.

ShellyBobbs Wed 20-Jun-12 10:40:34

Forgot to say aswell, yesterday morning I was sat on the side of the bed just getting up and this little baba kicked me so hard in the bladder that some wee came out grin, honestly it was so hard! I'm feeling it all the time now, even this morning in the car, The Charlatans turned up very loud and driving over the many speed bump and it was still kicking away.

ShellyBobbs Wed 20-Jun-12 10:41:07

bumps, we have many more than just one......

horseylady Wed 20-Jun-12 10:58:04

Yes it's really low again around 77/45 just got the nurse to measure it. Little man kicking away though!

Erm ok re: all the stuff!! How much does a small person need?!! Lol yes I can see why a separate bag is needed. Will add to list!

DonnaDoon Wed 20-Jun-12 11:24:26

Horsey lady just incase you did nt know there is a threrad in pregnancy about horseriding while pregnant. Just saw it and thought of you...that is all smile

Free anti- wrinkle cream if anyone is interested.

Not saying you all need it! Just thought as its free why not lol, Ive entered it and Im only 22!

here

I think I felt baby kick yesterday for the first time but can't be sure. Nothing yet today though.

Thechick Wed 20-Jun-12 12:04:58

Im very very pro breastfeeding, but i'm also very pro doing whats best for you and your baby, if ff suits you and your baby then so be it. I was pretty confident bf ds1 in public and I think its really sad that some women feel they need to go into toilets because of other peoples attitudes. I breastfed ds1 for about 18 months and i'm going back to work this time after 9 months so we'll see how it goes.

ShellyBobbs That sounds like a lot of stuff, lol

blonderthanred Wed 20-Jun-12 12:13:18

Oh, that was a bit scary.

Just had this weird sensation like I had pinged the waistband of my leggings, a pain right in the middle of my bump and then suddenly more pain in the front and upper bit of my bump. Nothing like the lower bump pain I've had which I know is ligaments stretching and is usually momentary if I get up suddenly or sneeze! Had to breathe through the pain and couldn't stand up as it hurt, so I kind of leaned back in my chair as far as poss to get my body in a straight line.

Colleague (IT guy in his 20s) was rather alarmed and got me some water and I've since managed to stand and was much better once I could walk around.

Just had my scan yesterday which was great so I'm hoping the baby is fine, maybe it's just that my bump is starting to expand upwards? Or could be a BH which made my tummy muscles contract as well - I haven't had one of these before and this is my first DC so I have no idea what they're meant to feel like. I had my yoga class last night so it might be that, but it was all across the middle rather than a pulled muscle.

Anyone else had anything like this?

horseylady Wed 20-Jun-12 12:32:56

I get an electric shock sensation when the baby kicks something. I assume he taps a nerve. Doesn't hurt just feels odd. Had a couple of uncomfortable moments but nothing really painful.

I've got no idea what bh feel like or contractions but I hope you're on.

ValiumQueen Wed 20-Jun-12 12:43:18

A change of clean clothes at least plus all those things previously mentioned need to go with baby whenever you pop out. If you are staying overnight you will be lucky to fit anything for you in the boot.

I started expressing when babies were about two weeks old. Just taking off a bit before they fed, and then after. The bits I collected would then be given by DH in a bottle early evening when they tend to cluster feed. Babies had no trouble swapping from teat to nip. Never took a dummy though.

TheDetective Wed 20-Jun-12 12:52:32

I can't wait to breastfeed, because of all the benefits for me and baba but more because I'm looking forward to getting the boys out in public, and having a good ole' slanging match with anyone who dares to object grin

Arguementative bitch, moi? Never! Not yet met a midwife who wasn't a bit bolshy!

Me and DP went to watch Rock of Ages last night, and loved every second! I sang my way through it all! I am so glad we weren't sat near anyone!!! I'm thinking of going to see it as a musical now! Currently downloading the soundtrack!! Anyone else seen it?

While we were waiting for the film to start DP told me he was browsing mumsnet earlier on his lunch hour, and we had a good chinwag about all the ridiculous threads we had read such as calling out your sisters pet name at the height of climaxing lmao! So, be careful, I suspect DP may start posting soon ha!!

Off to work now! Scan tomorrow! Yippeee!

PetiteRaleuse Wed 20-Jun-12 13:01:33

I had three weeks of regular and strong (according to the fetal mnoitor) braxton hicks last year before DD1 was induced. They weren't painful, just felt like my belly was tightening. Sometimes i'd feel a little out of breath. They would go when I lay down.

When they turned to real contractions after induction they felt like heavy, dull, period pains, getting progressively worse until I got to hospital and was epiduraled up to my eyeballs smile (the norm here). Once I was on the epidural they went back to feeling like braxtons IYSWIM.

What you felt blonderthanred doesn't sound like how BH felt to me but I guess it doesn't mean that they aren't. Just before my scan on Monday I had something which felt like you are describing and the scan showed the baby was turning and had flipped into transverse position - my abdomen was quite hard for about 20 minutes and walking to the OB GYN was quite painful. She flipped round to another position during the scan and I haven't felt it again since.

ditsygem Wed 20-Jun-12 13:09:14

Just back from my 20 week scan - I'm having a little boy! and everything looks good and healthy so I'm happy.
I was expecting it to be a boy as the sonographer at 12 weeks suggested boy based on the nub theory, at the time I was a little dissapointed as had always imagined a little girl, but since then I have had time to get used to it so I am actually excited now to have a gorgeous little boy all of my own. smile
All of his measurements were in the 95th percentile - eek! he is a big boy! She even checked my dates were right as he is really big!
The sonographer didn't seem keen to tell me the sex. She didn't ask if we wanted to know and it was only when she wiped the gel off my tummy at the end that I realised she wasn't giving us the option so I asked and she seemed really put out by it - but she did tell us, so I can't complain too much!

horseylady Wed 20-Jun-12 14:00:12

Ah congrats!!! Mine had a big belly lol!!!

Would you (any if you!) consider applying for a job. ESP if that job meant you could work three days a week and not take a salary drop but be working an hour commute from home?

PetiteRaleuse Wed 20-Jun-12 14:21:12

Yes. I would apply for that - I would love to go back to work part time after this one is born, and already have an hour's commute. As it is I won't be able to afford full time childcare so may be a SAHM for a while. Still working out the options, including changing career path completely and trying to find a way of working fom home.

Apply !

horseylady Wed 20-Jun-12 14:25:40

Well I was thinking of coming back full time here initially then drop to three or four days depending on money. But childcare is so pricey what I'd worked out to work wasn't worth it. I'm only 15mins from work ATM.

But this job has come up an hour away, similar job to mine but more management, would mean I could happily go back three days a week, no salary drop but childcare plus spend two days at home with lo. I've been put off applying there before just because of the five day commute but three days (should they agree) would be do able? I might not have enough experience though.....

StuntNun Wed 20-Jun-12 15:42:39

I've had a sharp tummy pain as well a couple of times Blonder, it felt like my abdominal muscles were tearing apart but stopped after a minute. I put it down to something stretching internally but then I'll have internal scarring and possibly adhesions from my section.

Congrats on the boy ditsy!

Congratulations ditsy smile

Pretty sure I can feel baby moving again today. Can anyone explain what it feels like?

WestWinger Wed 20-Jun-12 16:33:49

Hello all! Congratulations ditsygem on your little boy.

Had my scan today I'm having a boy too. A little brother for DD!

He was quite naughty though and would not get in position for them to take measurements. The sonographer had me in there four times, bless him. I spent most of the day at the hospital and the measurements are not perfect, but couldn't fault his efforts! I have to say (and I know areas vary wildly) but the NHS near me is just brilliant. The service, the care and most of all the staff - they are all lovely and friendly and do try their best to help as much as they can.

Horsey - mine has a big tummy too!

I have sharp pains - almost have to hold on to my tummy as it feels like it's going to rip in two.....

So tired now - why is it so exhausting just waiting around???!!

NervousAt20 Wed 20-Jun-12 16:38:33

Congratulations ditsy grin

WestWinger Wed 20-Jun-12 16:42:23

applepie they vary for me, sometimes like I am being tapped gently from the inside, sometimes just a sudden 'pop' or 'wobble' and sometimes a definite kick.

If you think you can feel them, then I am sure that you can feel baby moving. If you get one and then gently poke where the feeling came from, baby may 'poke' you back - always a fun game!

daisychain76 Wed 20-Jun-12 16:42:26

Congrats ditsy and westwinger.

horsey I worked 3 days a week after having DS and found it a good balance. What I would say, is check that its not the sort of job where in reality you will be on call 5 days a week anyway (mine ended up like that meaning I was taking phone calls/doing work while looking after DS so I left).

Thechick Wed 20-Jun-12 16:48:50

Congrats ditsy and WestWingersuch good news.

apple I think ive just started feeling kicks too. It feels different to ds, but that was 13 yrs ago but with ds they were more like wind to begin with and these are like tiny pokes, quite low down and quite quick. I notice after the fact and they dont seem to have a pattern. They have been happening for 3 or 4 days now at different times of the day.

blonderthanred Wed 20-Jun-12 16:50:03

Thank you for the feedback, I've had no pain since then and felt a couple of kicks so hopefully all ok.

Congrats Ditzy and West!

ShellyBobbs Wed 20-Jun-12 16:53:29

Another boy! How many is that now?

ShellyBobbs Wed 20-Jun-12 16:53:47

Oh and congratulations to you both of course.

Congrats westwinger!

Can't wait to see my girl again next fri it's not too long now. Just really hope everything is ok, still quite worried.

Congrats west. Perhaps when we update the stats list again we can put on there whether it's a boy or girl? Or yellow for those not finding out.

My bump seems to have appeared overnight! 19 weeks friday so about bloody time. My mum said I was fat yesterday which I objected to but apparently I'm being oversensitive. As someone who has to work hard to maintain a healthy weight and lacks self confidence perhaps I am.

I keep forgetting we have a separate stats thread. Ignore what I said.

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