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Ding Ding! We're halfway there on The February Baby Bus 2012.

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BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 04:18:45

good morning my lovelies, as requested, a shiny new thread grin old thread is here

Good luck with scans today, phlossie are you off for yours?

Sugar80 Tue 20-Sep-11 06:47:02

Ooh, hello. Just marking my place really. Nothing to report - no aches or pains, no movement, it's been over a week since I was last sick and the bump hasn't grown since Week 14. However my colleagues have informed me I'm a hormonal bitch troll, so all must be fine smile


phlossie Tue 20-Sep-11 08:10:00

Yes, scan at 11.30am. V excited, v nervous. Hope Jeff (as we're calling him/her) behaves and more importantly has all its organs in the right plan. Ironically I had the best night's sleep yet last night and only woke up once at 6.40am to go to the loo!

Xavielli that thing about your friend being called mum by her dsd made me well up a bit. Also was a bit teary about a Halifax ad yesterday hmm

Welcome to bus number 3 everyone! Half way there!

Fourth thread if I am not mistaken phlossie Our LO is called appleseed from when we first had a scan at 6weeks and they were the size of an apple seed. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a girl and ended up being called apple.

Me and DP have not decided on a name we like hardly at all! Boy we have said winner of F1 season - so more than likely Sebastian. But everything he suggests I hate, and vice versa. We both like Albert though. Girls names I think we have Bella (Annabella) and that's about it!!

Last night was horrendous for me, having a perfectly lovely evening with DP just relaxing, and suddenly BANG indigestion!! I was walking around the house, feeling sick, telling DP what to do as if he did something wrong, like stand in the wrong place - I felt sick -, did not know what I wanted! Horrible, and then it just passed. Stupid baby lol!

Aches and pains still there, just getting along with it now. No blood or anything and it's not getting worse; got a sneaking feeling that they are braxton hicks and will happen all way through.

19+1 Scan in 10 days!!

littlemonkeybix Tue 20-Sep-11 08:45:17

Oooh shiny new thread!!

Well after a week's reprieve, I was awake at 4am on the dot for a wee today hmm

Mild aches in the lower belly for a week or two, and worse when I managed to pull something when I twisted in bed! Sure it was only ligaments, right down the front of my tum sad

Otherwise nothing to report really!

17+3 (although they're saying 16+3) and scan in 27 days... HURRY! (Have actually forgotten about my birthday on same day!!)

melliebobs Tue 20-Sep-11 09:31:14

just marking my place for laters smile

babycarmen Tue 20-Sep-11 09:31:29

Ooh hello :D

Scan tomorrow, cant wait! Im nervous but so excited to see baby again smile Weve been getting loads of kicks and wriggles its lovely, i never get bored of feeling them.

Struggling a lot with SPD but other then that all is good over here smile Starting to get a few odd little bits in. 6 weeks til our 4d and sex scan :D

babycarmen Tue 20-Sep-11 09:33:29

oh 20+1 smile

deardear Tue 20-Sep-11 09:36:17

oooh exciting! have lots of movement and wriggling. still fee nausea (sp) but feel more glowing. next scan 11 october! yikes!

Xavielli Tue 20-Sep-11 09:46:45

Just checking in! Slept well last night and was awoken to the sound of the bigguns singing to the littlun and a very wriggly bean. Lovely start to the day

rnbsmum Tue 20-Sep-11 09:50:13

Oooh lovely, groovy new shiney bus!!!

Good luck today phlossie - looking forward to hearing all about it.

Have a good Tuesday all x


TheWicketKeeperIsDown Tue 20-Sep-11 10:49:23

Good luck to today's scanees. And gonerogue - how dreadful. I'm so sorry.

Things not picking up here with nausea. No more vomiting blood thankfully, bit massively struggling. I have finally admitted defeat and gone off sick.

Someone remind me why I agreed to do this again...


diedandgonetodevon Tue 20-Sep-11 10:50:03

Just marking my place on the new thread.
10 days to go until the next scan!


Well quick update on my phone here, out and about but doesn't stop me being mumsnet addicted! Just sat here wondering why appleseed has decided today of all days would be a great day to play football with my bladder! I am currently 60mins into a 100minute bus journey and have needed the loo for the best part of 20mins with aaaaages to go, wish me luck haha

BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 12:14:26

God I could tell you an awful story about me needing a wee on a bus in Milan but it is shameful!

littlemonkeybix Tue 20-Sep-11 12:30:13

Go on Bill, you can't leave us hanging on that one!!!

BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 13:47:16

Honestly my face is red just thinking about it! Maybe if a couple more ask haha.
On the upside today I've been re-measured for a new bra and I've gone from a 34B to a 34DD! New ones are sooooo much more comfortable and loads more support.

Where is phlossie with a blardy scan update?

PamBeesly Tue 20-Sep-11 13:54:47

Bill we need to hear the story grin

Innocent that pee must have felt great!

Well I feel great, the tiredness and nausea hasn't been around for at least 2 weeks and the itching has stopped a bit and I'm sleeping through the night, I'm so relieved. I am quite sore in the evenings in my abdomen but thats everything stretching, my lower back is also very sore but have been able to manage fine.
I have to make an appointment with my GP for this week (In Ireland we have combined matenity care, you see both your GP and the OBS and MW alternately every six weeks and luckily where I'm booked into they scan you at every OBS appointment, if you have any difficulties in your pregnancy you are seen more often)

I'm still yet to feel any movement but its still early 17+4

Sugarkane Tue 20-Sep-11 14:07:12

gonerogue Your sounding very focused and strong well done and im really sorry your in this situationI hope he is in no pain.

Bill you have to tell.

Good luck all with the scans

diedandgonetodevon Tue 20-Sep-11 14:52:26

Bill, spill that story please. Am stuck at home with a stinking cold and a vommiting small boy so I need some diversion

BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 16:15:25

Ok devon just to cheer you up! I was on a bus from milan to somewhere (can't rememeber, baby brain!) 90 min journey, I'd been drinking gallons of water as I'd been wandering round the Duomo and it was 104 and I was boiling.

I got about an hour into the journey, nearly in tears from the pain in my stomach from holding a wee in, the driver had already said NO way we were stopping as we were late and needed to catch a connection.

I was on the back seat and the people in front of me had fallen asleep so I took off my vest top (it was under a chiffon top) and put it under my skirt, sat on it, and peed all over it. blush it soaked up all my pee and I shoved it in a carrier bag and tied it up. Oh my god the relief was immense.

And now my shame is immense....

diedandgonetodevon Tue 20-Sep-11 16:29:02


littlemonkeybix Tue 20-Sep-11 16:30:37

Excellent bill grin

phlossie Tue 20-Sep-11 16:33:34

Brilliant Bill. And a very apt story, as I nearly wet myself today!

Scan was brilliant. Jeff is lovely. He/she (didn't find out) was an amazing poser, so the sonographer got a brilliant view of everything she needed to check. She commented on it being one of the best babies to scan! Let's hope that's an indication of things to come... I could do with #3 being cooperative. Anyway, I'm a bit buzzing now, and feeling v happy. And I have some lovely pictures.

The funny bit was that I arrived at hospital as they were evacuating because of a fire alarm. It didn't last long, and there were no flames, but it put everything back loads. My scan was at 12.15 instead of 11.30, and I had drunk a pint of water and not peed since 10.30. I was so desperate for a pee that I thought I'd burst the second the sonographer put pressure on my belly, but I managed to hold it in (save a couple of drops, maybe!) until afterwards.


phlossie Tue 20-Sep-11 16:34:59

Ooh, and my placenta's anterior, which explains not feeling the movements so much and why the midwife could only get the placenta sound and my heartbeat at my 16 wk appointment.

littlemonkeybix Tue 20-Sep-11 16:53:14

Good news phlossie grin So pleased for you!!

Crazybit Tue 20-Sep-11 16:53:29

Marking my place!

Phlossie-Glad all is well with Jeff smile

BillC-lol! What a dickhead driver tut.

littlemonkeybix Tue 20-Sep-11 17:20:38

Wee-ish story!! hope this helps your blushes bill

When on holiday with my ex yonks ago, on our bus back to the airport he decided he needed a wee (I had done the mum thing "are you sure you dont need to go" before leaving hotel, he didnt....) so the bus kindly stopped en route at a little service station. He got off, along with about 10 others!!!

he got back on the bus, so did the others... fine.... the bus pulls away from the service station... CRASH! Took the side off an estate car with 5 people in!!

I was ashamed!! Fortunately everyone in both vehicles were fine, but there were a few people looking at those who had got off with glaring eyes!! And my then BF was in for most stares as it was him that made the bus stop!!

We made the airport in just enough time, instead of in plenty of time.... but I was properly blush

Purpletoes Tue 20-Sep-11 17:44:19

just marking my spot. off to Rome for the weekend reading all the wee stories I need to plan my days carefully as bean using bladder as trampoline at moment!

20 weeks tomorrow but scan not till 22 weeks seems ages away lots of wriggles!

Oh bill that story is fantastic, however my face is burning for you. I was expecting a bottle story but that is fantastic!! And yes, that wee was purely fantastic, in Morrison's loos with their lovely blue lighting.

phlossie Does that mean you will need a later scan - I am not 100% sure what an anterior placenta is... Oh and funny you should mention the fire evacuation at the hospital. While I was on said bus journey, I ended up speaking to the mate who was with me about hospital fire evacuations and how they would do it, e.g with ICU, surgery etc. etc. Ended up with a rather long conversation about how they would evacuate moving patients like those in A&E and then they would assess each ward individually as to the distance from the fire. It is a new hospital too so a tall building.

Oooh purpletoes enjoy your holiday!!!
And Ouch monkey, glad everyone was OK, but it wasn't just your BFs fault!!

pinkhollie Tue 20-Sep-11 18:32:22

Gonerogue your coping brilliantly I hope all goes as well as it can do.

bill I loved the story you were very resourceful.

I've been feeling good full of energy in the day but sooooo tired at night. A bit achey round the middle but i'm sure it's all just stretching pains.

I'm v jealous of all the scans ours is 2 weeks yesterday when I'll be 21 weeks exactly.

phlossie Tue 20-Sep-11 19:07:03

Happy holidays purpletoes!

Innocent - anterior placenta just means it's at the front, ie, under my belly button. It's not a problem, so I won't need a scan. It just means that I might not be able to feel Jeff's movements so well because I have an extra cushion between her/him and me.

ZhenXiang Tue 20-Sep-11 19:07:28

Hello everyone, very chatty on this new thread today smile

Bill great story, I have been so desperate before I have peed in between two parked cars in broad daylight (on a quiet street of course).

Innocent - I have anterior placenta too, it just means it is on the front wall of your uterus rather than the back.

Went for 16 week appt today, they didn't check heartbeat just blood pressure etc... Don't have to see midwife until 34 week appointment at the VBAC clinic. Am glad seeing GP is much easier smile

17+1 - two weeks until my scan

Ohh, I get it now, I think I got it mixed up with the one where there placenta is over the cervix - you need a further scan for that don't you? Suppose you will be glad of the extra cushion when LO tries kicking you in the ribs!!

In 10 days I will have seen little one grin Cannot wait!! Feeling lots of lovely little movement, seems to be in a pattern roughly feeling them for 20 mins then a rest of 1 hour and then another 20mins etc. If that makes sense grin

m1nn1em0u5e Tue 20-Sep-11 20:54:25

Oooh just marking my place smile

Gonerogue, so sorry to hear about your Dad, you sound a very strong lady x

Horrendous day in work today, im so tired, off to bed, pregnancy 3rd time around with a husband who works away is tough!....

PDog Tue 20-Sep-11 21:05:57

Hello all, found you on the lovely new thread.

innocent and phlossie glad you both got your work issues sorted.

gonerouge so sorry to hear your news. Having had a close friend go through something similar recently you are very much in my thoughts. Hope you and your family get some precious memories with your dad.

phlossie good news on your scan, hopefully that will put your at rest for awhile at least wink.

bill grin that cheered me up thanks.

I have horrible back ache today, have a bad cough and still haven't felt baby move sad.

louby86 Tue 20-Sep-11 21:21:21

Hello everyone on our new shiny bus!

Lovely news about scans! Struggling to keep up with the thread on my phone, going to have to put a stop to DH taking the laptop to work with him grin

Been really mardy yesterday and today, must have scared DH, he's just booked us a weekend to London next weekend in an attempt to cheer me up, bless him. I've done nothing but apologise to him since I got home from work blush

Emz33 Tue 20-Sep-11 21:53:47

Hello all, marking my spot!
Still haven't felt any movements myself. Well I don't think so anyway. Lots of things going on down there but don't think they are the baby!
Have 20 week scan next thurs, can't wait. I'll be 20 weeks exactly!

BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 22:00:12

Good god this bus is busy! We need one of those bendy ones like they have in manchester and split us into groups grin

Great news phlossie love going for scans.

Thanks to the people who shared their shame with me, I have a huge amount of crap and embarrassing stories, for all occasions.

I feel sick after DD1 made melting middle cookies for me at tea time and I ate too many, then watched the british bake off which just made me feel sicker :-(

Baby is kicking like mad at this time on a night, she just won't lie still, and the other DD's keep calling her by the name we have chosen, but it feels a bit weird, like a bit unlucky? I'm going to ask them to stop calling her by that name and just call her baby for now. Or is that weird on my part? Jesus, I sound like an old woman!

I'm starting to be able to distinguish where certain bits of her are now as well, hard lump on my left lower abs is her bum etc, etc. After the midwife showed me. Hope some of you start getting some big kicks soon!

TheWicketKeeperIsDown Tue 20-Sep-11 22:08:02

I've been getting daily movements for over a week now - more active, but hadn't had any proper KICKS until the other day. It felt like minime took a running jump at me, like Father Ted kicking Bishop Brennan up the erse. I actually shouted "ow!"

PamBeesly Tue 20-Sep-11 22:13:15

TheWicketKeeperIsDown grin at Fr.Ted kicking Bishop Brennan up the arse, I'll have to youtube that now

Thanks for sharing that Bill hahahaha

Has anyone felt a heaviness in their stomach? Mine felt very very heavy today like I was carrying around bricks inside my stomach, just for a few minutes and after a big walk

BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 22:19:53

I had that today pam, after walking to the local shops, it was very uncomfortable by the time I got home, felt like a lead weight in my tummy.

Apart from Pdog, is anyone else in durham/north east? Midwife has been a bit rubbish about telling me about any aqua natal/ yoga type things going on, I really need to start back on some exercise!

MrsHuxtable Tue 20-Sep-11 22:31:11

Hello everyone,
I hope it's ok to rejoin the bus. I was on it when it first started but got too anxious about the whole thing and never posted again.

I'm 19+3 weeks pregnant with my first baby. We had a gender scan a couple of weeks ago which showed that we are, without a doubt, having a girl, just as I always wanted. I had my 20 week scan today, at 11.20 (so at the same time as Phlossie) and all seemed fine so I'm finally ready to relax a bit about this pregnancy and start posting on this bus.

I've been very sick with hyperemesis since 6 weeks, have spent loads of time in hospital with it and have not been back to work ever since as I'm still being sick too much (I work with food).

I don't leave the house a lot because I got fed up of spewing in various public toilets and people looking at me like I'm bulimic and because I have no other children yet, I'm bored out of my mind.

We have decided on a name, well kind of. We know what her nickname will be and we know the middle name but we're still a little unsure about which version of the first name we will pick. I'm very happy to elaborate on the name issue if someone is interested.

Do you all have big bumps yet?

PamBeesly Tue 20-Sep-11 22:33:52

Hi MrsH congratulations on the girl! I think so far girls are the majority on this bus so she wll be in good company.
I feel for you having to go to hospital because of sickness, it must be horrible. I'd say stay at home and relax as mch as you can.
I am 17+4 and I've no discernible bump, I just look fat (even though others say I don't but they are probably just being polite)

BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 22:35:43

Glad to see you are feeling a bit more positive, but crap that you still feeling so sick :-(

We always want to hear names, I'm having a girl as well, but this is my third!

BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 22:37:31

Wish I could get my arse in gear and post a picture of my bump, it's so bloody big and sticky outy, I look like I have a football up my jumper!

MrsHuxtable Tue 20-Sep-11 22:49:15

It's just so draining. It's been 14 weeks now without a nausea / vomit free day. I'm really exited now to hear about other people who are due around the same time as me.

Just to warn you, I'm German (DH is Scottish), so I have gotten a few funny looks from friends here about our name choice grin.

So, Baby Huxtable will be called Frieda (pron. fre-da) for short. Her middle name will be Sophia, after one of my sisters who will also be her godmother. Now, the official first name will either be and I'm not sure if there is a big pronunciation difference for English speakers..

Frederike or

I somehow think that it would be easier to pronounce for English speakers if we use one of the versions ending in -a. My favourite so far is Frederika Sophia, called Frieda. Phew, I hope that makes sense...

MrsHuxtable Tue 20-Sep-11 22:51:22

Also, I'm definitely having a bump now as well. Not massive but it's there alright making it quite uncomfortable to sleep without my lovely dreamgenii pillow..

BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 22:58:42

Frederika is lovely, and sophia was on my list of names, DH wanted sophie, so we had to change it as we couldn't agree on sophia/sophie.

And by a weird coincedence, I'm just this minute reading a book about scottish immigrants who settle in america, and are living near a german settlement in salem, bizzare!

MrsHuxtable Tue 20-Sep-11 23:07:10

Oh, Sophia is a beautiful name. Am a little jealous of my sister tbh..
So what kind of names are you thinking of now? Do you know yet what you're having?

Kayano Tue 20-Sep-11 23:07:41

Here I am!!!! I woke up today numb down my left side sad

Have been sleeping in strange positions still. Left dammit! LEFT!

PamBeesly Tue 20-Sep-11 23:07:51

Frederika is lovely, I've known two, a little girl I taught English to in Italy and she was an angel and a Dutch girl I went to university who was so funny and full of joy, I think its a beautiful name

MrsHuxtable Tue 20-Sep-11 23:17:01

I'm so glad you people think it's a lovely name as I really have my heart set on it but everyone at work was looking at me like I had gone mental and wanted to call her Walburga or some other weird ancient German name...

MrsHuxtable Tue 20-Sep-11 23:18:25

Anyway, I'm off to sleep now. I have a doctor's appointment early in the morning but I will be back regularly from now on. With all the time that I have...Good night everyone!

BillComptonstrousers Tue 20-Sep-11 23:18:50

We are all up late tonight!

Think we are having lucy or emma, they need to go with the other two fairly boring traditional names!

PamBeesly Tue 20-Sep-11 23:23:29

both are lovely bill, strong and feminine, Emma was a strong queen in the 11th century, nice!

Kayano Tue 20-Sep-11 23:34:28

I have no girls names at all. But I like Lucas or Jenson for a boy grin

DH vetoed my girls name - It was Eden. sad

ZhenXiang Wed 21-Sep-11 00:04:13

Really like Frederika/Frieda and Sophia mrshuxtable sorry you are still feeling so sick.

Oh Kayano I really liked Eden sad

Bill you have good taste, I am a Lucy [biased emoticon], as a name it has always treated me well and means light smile Emma means universal so also a good meaning and know/have known lots of nice Emma's.

I have a big bump, look far more than 17 weeks, have tried sit ups as have a definite gap between my weak abdominal muscles after DD and am a bit worried about it getting worse. Will be re-starting my pregnancy pilates tomorrow in the hope of strengthing my core.

On a plus note have been noticing improvement in pelvic floor and weeing when sneezing since doing exercises at every opportunity smile

Kayano Wed 21-Sep-11 00:22:04

Zhen... Are we supposed to do pelvic floor now?! The only exercise I have done is walk to the kitchen to get more Jaffa cakes blush

Really Need to get proactive about all of this stuff lol.... I booked my NHS anti natal classes but got nothing til December. December!!!! Will be finished work before I get to go

(has booked obscene amount of holidays grin)

ZhenXiang Wed 21-Sep-11 00:44:50

Yes the more pelvic floor you do now, the less weeing yourself in the later stages of pregnancy and after the birth.

Also helps you get back to normal down there faster afterwards which helps your sex life (although you may be so tired feeding newborn that may take a while anyway).

The more exercise you do now the easier the birth generally (strong abs helps with pushing) and recovery, plus you will find it easier to lose baby weight afterwards as you will not have gained so much (breastfeeding really helps lose the weight too).

Crazybit Wed 21-Sep-11 00:52:07

Have posted a pic if my 18 week bump on my profile and finally felt the baby kick me properly just now smile on phone will catch up properly tomorrow.

Xavielli Wed 21-Sep-11 07:22:06

HAHA! wicket That made me giggle no end. One of my teachers at secondary school used to call me Bishop Brennan as it's my surname.

Speaking of names I actually really like Brennan as a first name. Brennan Docherty sounds great but I've got a 'thing' about surnames as first names and don't think I could do it!

Frederika is lovely in any variation and Freida a lovely nickname. If she wanted a change she could always be an Erika too! Lots of options.

Crazybit Wow! You do have a bump! And it's a lovely neat shape. I don't think mine is baby shapes yet as it's only made from chocolate fudge cake!

Xavielli Wed 21-Sep-11 07:23:43

And speaking of pictures I should really put some up to date ones of the urchins on my profile.. The ones on their are nearly a year old now.

TheWicketKeeperIsDown Wed 21-Sep-11 07:26:25

MrsHuxtable, I am delighted to hear that someone else is still really sick! So bored of it now sad

Like Frieda too! TBH, I've been feeling too ill for us to really think about names - I just can't get motivated.

BillComptonstrousers Wed 21-Sep-11 07:37:13

Haha crazy I think we have matching bumps!

For some reason It won't upload a pic onto here, might have to add some of you onto face book if anyone has an account then I get to nosy at all your real pictures grin

Sugar80 Wed 21-Sep-11 07:39:58

I now have bump envy. Mine just looks like I've had a big dinner!

rnbsmum Wed 21-Sep-11 09:26:04

Morning all x MrsHuxtable I love the name "Frieda" and it's the name of a very cool character in Holby!! (I watch waaaaay too much telly blush!) For those of you still feeling crappy and not feeling up to getting out much, have you thought about knitting? I took it up when I was expecting my first DC (DD) in a slightly ironic way just so she could wear something I'd made but I have become soooo into it. There are really cool patterns around (and free ones on ravelry. I'm half way through this for beanie. (It's not my blog incidentally, just nicking the picture!)

DH has now vetoed Iris and we are currently thinking Beatrice. We have a Rosalyn (Rosie) and a William (Billy) so think he has a bit of a Shakespeare thing going on! Good luck all scanees - it's so fantastic to be hearing all the scans stories and that the wee ones are all starting wriggling and kicking.

Xavielli Wed 21-Sep-11 09:45:39

Can't believe I have posted this morning and not said I am 20 weeks today! Poor neglected 4th baby already....

It was busy last night! Some lovely names, I love most of them, can imagine DP hates them. Mind you, DP does like Emma and so do i.

The anxiety about the pregnancy has come back, thank god the MW appointment i got to speak to her about it is tomorrow. So I am not good. Hanging in there though. 19+2, and I thought it got easier after the first 12w sad

littlemonkeybix Wed 21-Sep-11 10:13:31

Morning ladies!

Oh innocent how poo that you've got anxiety sad it's a real bummer! hope you feel better soon!!

Names... boy = Thomas Stanley William Surname (my pick.. therefore I want a boy!) and girl = Lily Anne Surname (his pick... I don't mind, but I must win wink ha)

Still mega tired, but have had a day or two off from it, then get all excited I've turned a corner... then WHAM tireds again!

I have a massive "bump" ie, not gained much weight, but have more front tummy than usual. Been in maternity kecks for weeks as I think things are just shifting round a bit! Flabby - tastic!

Going to book onto the aquanatal for next weeks class... excited!! Got myself a fab tankini for the occasion, lets hope I don't get shy and bottle going!! (has happened plenty before!!)

17+4 (or 16+4 by scan - which I dont believe! I'm too massive!)

Sugar80 Wed 21-Sep-11 12:04:14

Just booked my tour of the maternity department for the end of October! Scan is 2 weeks today so wanted to get it done while I'm there, but they only do the tours on weekends.

Struggling to find any kind of antenatal classes around here. The aquanatal was cancelled due to low attendance apparently, and there's a Pilates centre that might do something, but they haven't responded to my emails (and they look expensive!). NHS antenatal classes aren't until the end of January...

Sugar80 Wed 21-Sep-11 12:04:31

Oh, 17+3

Hello ladies, marking my place. Second 20 week scan tomorrow, bub will hopefully be in a more amenable position this time! Am getting internally pummeled as we speak!


PamBeesly Wed 21-Sep-11 13:41:46

crazybit you look pregnant thats great, I just look fat sad your bump is nice and perfect looking smile

Kayano I loved Eden!

rnbsmum I like Beatrice too, its so pretty

BillComptonstrousers Wed 21-Sep-11 13:52:22

Is anyone else getting palpitations? I just had some irregular heartbeats that have lasted well over a minute, normally just a couple of jumps and then back to normal, but that really freaked me out!

Just trying to calm down now.

PamBeesly Wed 21-Sep-11 13:58:20

I get them from time to time Bill. If you can, lie down on your left hand side and try some deep breathing, don't be overly concerned unless they are happening more frequently than you think is normal or you are uncomfortable

MrsHuxtable Wed 21-Sep-11 14:33:06

Hello again,
what a day I had so far. I was at the doctors to get another sick note and also to get blood taken because so far all the midwives I've seen never managed to get any out of me (bad veins they said). It was for all those bloods they usually do at the booking appointment, so quite a lot. Anyway, after a lot of poking, GP managed to get the blood flowing but when she was halfway done, something weird happened. She said the vein collapsed? But basically blood was running out my arm next to the needle like crazy and it took ages to get it to stop. She then had to get the rest with a syringe from the other arm. I'm glad it's done though!!!

Bill I love the name Lucy. It always reminds me of that Lucy who was on the X-Factor a couple of years ago and I always thought she was beautiful.

Wicket I know what you mean by being delighted someone else is still sick. I feel like a total idiot and like people don't believe me you can still have sickness that bad in your 2nd trimester...

rnbsmum I've actually started to crochet a baby blanket. I'm making granny squares and want to incorporate her name in it as well. Not sure how to attach the squares to each other though.

MrsHuxtable Wed 21-Sep-11 14:35:21

Sugar I share your frustration about lack of ante-natal activities. I'm in a small city in Central Scotland and there is nothing going on for expecting mums. I always thought I'd like to do some aquanatal or pregnancy yoga but nada...

littlemonkeybix Wed 21-Sep-11 15:27:22

Bill I have suffered with palpitations. I spoke to the MW about it last week, and she said it's perfectly normal but if I was worried I could speak to the GP. I had read up on them on the net, so wasn't worried, but they've eased a bit now anyway. I was really suffering at night time, they were keeping me awake. confused

I couldnt even blame caffeine this time!! I have been able to in the past (bad week at work, too much coffee, palpitational Monkey) blush

CoffeeOne Wed 21-Sep-11 16:43:27

Eep, 4 pages to catch up on! Chatty bunch.

Read the last couple of posts, re the ante natal classes my area has aquanatal and pregnancy yoga and they're both during 'normal' working hours angry I'm really miffed as I'd like to go to both but can't as I'm working full time.

Bill - I've been getting palpitations once a day or so, I'm sure it's normal, just have a lie down.


littlemonkeybix Wed 21-Sep-11 16:55:19

I'd like some pregnancy yoga, but there doesn't appear to be any... I am carrying on with my Body Balance which incorporates yoga, pilates and tai chi. Was kind of hoping that mine would end up in work time as I am lucky and would be allowed!! Aqua was , but has been moved!! the slacker in me cried

Is there not a normal yoga class that you can attend where they can accommodate your pregnancy Coffee? That's what my BB teacher is doing.... adapting bits just for me (I feel special!!) Or a DVD??

I have to be honest, I'd have been gutted to totally stop my classes. As much as I dont have the energy yet to do my usual two a week I love my one, and as soon as energy permits, I'm back to two (plus aqua if it's OK next week!! And maybe recommence my weekly swim too!!?)

I may be a fatty, but an active one grin

PS bump is definitely there... just under my flab!!

littlemonkeybix Wed 21-Sep-11 16:55:41

damn... that was meant to be a strikethrough, not an underline!! duh me!

Potol Wed 21-Sep-11 17:00:37

Hello all, my god we all talk a lot don't we?! grin

Anyway, 20 week scan was yesterday. All is well. And we're having a boy! I'm in deep shock. My side of the family has no boys in living memory...! But I also have a low lying placenta or the edge of a placenta- so a scan at 36 weeks to see if I need a C-section.
Sorry for not responding to ppl individually- but fingers crossed that everyone else's scans go well.

m1nn1em0u5e Wed 21-Sep-11 17:14:15

Liking the name Emma, thats my name!...Congratulations on all the good scans, seems to be a lot of girls!..A fellow team blue member Potol!..Been shopping in m&s for baby clothes today, they have got some lovely things in....shame most of what I wanted was out of stock in newborn or 0-3 months....aah well, probably saved dp a fortune!....Still deliberating over prams, such a hard decision to make....We are having the Humphreys corner nursery bedding from Mothercare, its lovely & bright!..sure I felt my little mans bottom or head earlier while I was feeling my bump!..sorry to hear so many of you are still so sickly....I still feel nauseas quite a lot & getting lots of heartburn! The joys hey....

m1nn1em0u5e Wed 21-Sep-11 17:15:40

Oh I forgot, 22 weeks today! smile

babycarmen Wed 21-Sep-11 17:28:49

Scan update! smile

Well the scan was brilliant, baby is perfect and healthy and a little poser, got some gorgeous pics, one looks like its picking its nose (just like daddy, aww ;) ) the hospital dont tell you the sex but im pretty sure its a girl! Just 6 weeks til our sexing scan, i cant wait to go shopping :D So happy and relieved smile

Congratulations to everyone else with the good scans smile what a lovely stage!

Just had a glance over the thread, i found some pregnancy yoga on one of the sky channels, body in balance or something like that, its on quite early but i recorded a few and have been doing that. I miss the gym and with SPD yoga is the only thing i feel comfortable doing.

I had to have a nap when i got home from the scan, DD is so energetic and her attitude is 3 going on 16 hmm I think shes getting a bit fed up of all the baby talk so trying to lay off it a bit around her and concentrate on her birthday in 6 weeks time!


diedandgonetodevon Wed 21-Sep-11 18:34:14

There have been some lovely names mentioned smile. So far think they all sound beautiful- unusual for me as I'm quite hard to please with names, as poor DH knows all too well.

Am really stuggling with a bad cold. Was not able to sleep at all last night as I couldn't breathe and wasn't able to get comfortable. However, on the plus side it meant I discovered that the baby is awake and really active over night.
Have been feeling movements and then definite kicks for a few weeks but had never been able to get my hand in the right place to feel them from outside but as I had a lot of time on my hands last night I just lay there with my hands on my bump until I felt it- was really lovely.

diedandgonetodevon Wed 21-Sep-11 18:35:38

ooh, forgot to add:
19+6 (half way tomorrow- where has all the time gone?!)

QueenFee Wed 21-Sep-11 18:48:38

Gosh you lot can talk!
Will have a read then post later on when I can nick the laptop off dh...

Sugar80 Wed 21-Sep-11 19:06:55

Will look into normal yoga classes I think. I'm in deepest darkest rural Gloucestershire so there's not a great deal about. My other option is to look into lunch hour or pre/post work classes in Bristol... I feel like I should be doing something....

phlossie Wed 21-Sep-11 19:55:16

I do classes with Purely Pregnant in Southville, Sugar. I did prenatal yoga at Yoga West on Gloucester Road with DC1 which starts ar 6.15pm, so maybe good for after work?

Hello Mrs H, welcome back! Feeling much less anxious, thanks. How about you?

Well done on your scans, everyone. A boy, eh, Potol. Boys are lovely. I recommend them! My PFB is a boy, and that was a shock - I couldn't imagine myself with a boy, but he's wonderful.

Sugarkane Wed 21-Sep-11 20:16:22

MrsHuxtable im in Falkirk and there is bugger all here to do in PG.

Bill Ive had them with all my PG if you get worried ask you MW to check your iron levels again as that can really kick them off.

m1nn1em0u5e Mothercare have a sale on at the min might be worth checking if they have the bedding you want on offer.

Great news on the scans everyone.

Well quick update here I feel so bloody stupid ive been really depressed the last week or so and hadnt put two and two together that I needed a B12 injection, had one and im really starting to pick up, why didnt I remember before now??? Anyway hopefully im turning a corner now, must have been low as the nurse who sees me everytime couldnt believe how pale I was and my tongue had been on edge for weeks now.

Have done too much walking today and cant even stand up straight bloody SPD, hope everyone is doing well. Sorry for a long me me post.

Sugar80 Wed 21-Sep-11 20:25:24

phlossie thank you, Southville would be handy for work....

MrsHuxtable Wed 21-Sep-11 20:31:18

Sugarkane I'm in Stirling so we are practically neighbours!!!! smile There really isn't anything here, is there?! I've already wondered if I'm too incompetent to search for activities..

Phlossie Yes, I'm feeling a lot better too. Still having some pains and a weird heavy feeling but I reckon they would have noticed at the scan if the baby was lying too low down or something.

phlossie Wed 21-Sep-11 21:17:02

Sugar80 My class is at 7.15pm on Tuesday night at the Southville Centre, but they also do an earlier class, and I think there are other classes in Southville. Might see you there!

potol I had a low lying placenta at 20weeks with DS, but it had moved by 36weeks (which is when they decided DS was a monster-sized baby. He wasn't. But that's a different story!)

Glad you're feeling a bit better, mrsH!

I've just been oogling new houses. What is it about being pregnant and wanting to move?!

TheWicketKeeperIsDown Wed 21-Sep-11 21:18:22

Yay, more Scots! I'm in Edinburgh (although I'm really a Weegie - just defected here 12 years ago!)

MrsHuxtable Wed 21-Sep-11 21:26:47

I can't believe there are actually people on this bus who live so close to me!!!!

TheWicketKeeperIsDown Wed 21-Sep-11 21:35:26


So you girls will be giving birth in the shiny new hospital at Larbert, then?

MrsHuxtable Wed 21-Sep-11 21:38:47

Larbert is my second choice.
The plan is to travel back home to Germany when I'm 35 weeks. Haven't settled on a hospital there yet as there are at least a dozen great ones near me.
But should I be unfit to travel come January, it will be Larbert for me! Have you heard anything about the new hospital there?

Kayano Wed 21-Sep-11 21:40:47

Anyone in north east? Newcastle? I'm so envy at people living so close together

TheWicketKeeperIsDown Wed 21-Sep-11 21:43:00

I have quite a few colleagues who work there. The chat is that the patient spaces are great, just a lack of office space for consultants! Was supposed to be going to a meeting there there other week for a look round the equivalent department to mine (my hospital are also moving site in a few months, so was particularly interested), but it was cancelled, so haven't seen it with my own eyes.

littlemonkeybix Wed 21-Sep-11 21:51:32

How jealous am I grin You've all got local buddies!! Even on mumsnet local there's nothing but tumbleweeds for me!! Oh, there was an update from Dec 2010 I think!!

Also, can I get some more movements noe please... Surely if you all join up and shout to it, pip will get some feelable wriggles on again?!

Not worried as I'm still only 16/17 +4!!

Off to bobos now, had yet another day of mega tireds... Roll on energy times!! Nanight all x

ZhenXiang Wed 21-Sep-11 22:00:33

Congrats on the scans Potol and babycarmen

diedandgonetodevon - I have a cold too sad. Couldn't sleep lying on side as squashed chest too much and started coughing. Finally at 2am last night I got a heap of pillows propped myself up and fell asleep sitting up. If you nose is really blocked try saline nasal spray, really works and is fine for pregnancy (also good for kids too).

Bill and Coffeeone* - I get palpitations too sometimes when I overdo it, goes when I sit down for a bit.

I got told in early pregnancy that I had a heart murmur, apparently they are quite common in pregnancy due to the increased blood flow through the heart. Had ECG and all was fine, but they can come and go so if you are worried go to GP and get them to listen to you heart. I can still go to gym so long as heart rate doesn't go too high.

Innocent glad you are seeing midwife tomorrow, try to think positively x

sugarkane glad you are feeling better, had no idea that low levels of B12 could affect you in that way although I did know a little about pernicious anaemia.

Kayano Wed 21-Sep-11 22:36:48

I wish I could kick baby in the bladder. It's all or nothing! I had to arrange a tech support callback today while I made a mad dash to the loo blush

Oh well, baby saved the customer some £ money lol

Hopefully it will be as considerate on my wallet grin

diedandgonetodevon Wed 21-Sep-11 22:37:39

Thanks for the saline spray tip- will be off to get me one tomorrow morning

BillComptonstrousers Wed 21-Sep-11 22:41:08

Am def going to ring midwife about palpitations as I've been getting quite a few today :-( I know most of the time they are nothing to worry about, but one earlier really scared me.

Great scan news carmen and potol

I'm in Durham Kayano so not too far!

Oh my god mrshuxtable totally mis-read your post and though your second choice name fir the baby was Larbert hahaha

woowa Wed 21-Sep-11 22:42:40

Bloomin consultants. Had scan today (all lovely, didn't want to know boy or girl), and afterwards tried to introduce the subject of the scan date being wrong. Obviously this consultant has had this conversations LOTS of times, but still, she did get a bit too worked up about it. Because we had IVF we know EXACTLY when it was conceived, 16th May. DD1 was conceived on 18th May, and due date was 11th Feb, born on 9th Feb. with this one, conceived only 2 days before (and 2 years later, in case this is confusing!), due date is 31st january, where we would expect 9th feb. Anyway, doc's answer was that conceived embryos can hang around for a WEEK in the uterus without implanting, so that must be what happened with DD, as scans are NEVER wrong. End of conversation. Is anyone on here medical and can tell me she's wrong about how long they can wait before implanting, as it sounds SO unlikely to me.

However, she did sound hopeful that i could have a low-dependency birth despite haemorhage last timesmile So she's not all mad bad.

on other subjects, i'm also Lucy, i think it's a great name. We're also struggling with names, DD's name is really unusual so i feel we need an equally lovely unusual one, but DH vetoes everything i suggest. I did run one VERY unusual one past my sister at the weekend, one that DH does actually like, and she thought it was beautiful, so maybe we'll go with that. If it's a girl...

I am in teesside in the northeast, whoever asked, but it's a world away from Durham, so I can't help with antenatal stuff i'm afraid.

off to sleep now, been a busy day!

20 weeks (or 21 +1 if you're a doctor!)

TheWicketKeeperIsDown Thu 22-Sep-11 09:36:48

woowa, it's a bit out of my area (I tend to stay north of the diaphragm!), but from my memory, I had certainly thought that fertilised eggs could stay in the uterus for a good 5 days or so before implanting. Estimating the date of delivery isn't just about size (although that correlates pretty well in early scans), but also about other features of development. There will always be a degree of variation, and "normal" is counted as 2 weeks before and 2 weeks after the EDD, so there's a good bit of leeway!

Re palpitations (which ARE my area!), they are very common in pregnancy. Pregnant women seem much more aware of the normal extra beats that we all have and even the normal heart rhythm, probably due to the combination of the higher heart rate in pregnancy, and the fact that there's twice as much carrying fluid in the blood stream. If it's just an awareness of a missed beat (extra beats are actually often sensed as a missed beat), or of a single thump or 2, lasting only for a couple of seconds or few seconds we generally don't get concerned about that. Again, if it's repeated awareness of that over a longer period of time (like a thump or 2, then fine for a minute then another thump or 3 or missed beats, repeated like that for half an hour, for instance), that's unlikely to be anything to be concerned about. If you have an unpleasant awareness of your heart beat that is lasting continuously for longer than a few seconds, then it may be worth seeing your GP. Hope that helps.

Sugarkane Thu 22-Sep-11 09:58:07

MrsHuxtable No its not incompetence its just a general lack of activities, although there are loads of groups around here for when baby comes. I'm normally too busy to get to them but really do try honest.

Its Larbert for me, not seen any bad reviews of it yet and every visit I've been to so far has been really good. Ive seen a web tour thingy of the birthing rooms and they look very big, also like how if your complication free they try and keep you in that room instead of sending you to post natal ward and then home. I'm guessing its mostly the same staff as Stirling and had met some lovely people there with DC's (apart from one auxiliary).

BillComptonstrousers Thu 22-Sep-11 10:11:08

Morning wicket The 'fluttering' in my heart that happened yesterday lasted well over 30 seconds, to the point it was really making me feel quite anxious. Even today I it feels like there is something not quite right.

I am prone to panic attacks and anxiety though, and came off a small dose of propanolol when I found out I was pregnant, but have been feeling fine since I stopped taking them. Maybe a quick trip to the docs is in order, I hate feeling like I'm wasting an appointment though!

Oh, midwife appointment today, I hope everything goes ok. I just can't stop this anxiety. I have had a good few days without it, but now it has returned with a vengeance. I can't bond with my bump, I just fear everything, I keep thinking have i imagined that movement? Is there a baby really there? Hopefully MW will manage to calm my anxiety, I don't know how though.

Anyone in West Yorkshire? I think I just need someone out there to see. I am rather lonely where I am but I don't know anyone pregnant around here. Hopefully going to a teen pregnancy group every Tuesday in my town centre, but seeing as I am 20 in 5 weeks I hope they keep me there.

TheWicketKeeperIsDown Thu 22-Sep-11 10:17:48

Bill, I suspect it's all fine and is related to the background of anxiety and not being on the propranolol, but if it was continuous for over 30 seconds, nobody would criticise you for asking your GP about it and I think that would be reasonable.

For the Stirling/Falkirk girls, I've recently had an invitation on Facebook from Stirling ToddlerSense, so there must be Baby Sensory in Stirling for once your LOs are here. Baby Sensory is the only class I did with DD and we both loved it. Totally recommended!

Innocent - hope you feel reassured by today's appointment.

babycarmen Thu 22-Sep-11 11:17:09

Oh loads of Scots, huh? smile Im near(ish) Aberdeen grin

Im so tired today i can barely function. And ive got loads to do today. Siiigh...

Was getting loads of kicks last night and could see my tummy moving :D cute!

Innocent Hope you feel better after your appointment, i was exactly the same with my first pregnancy

phlossie Thu 22-Sep-11 11:55:59

I've heard baby sensory is worth doing, wicket - they do it round here.

Innocent - my scan totally put the anxiety to rest. How long have you got to wait?

I should be doing 5 million things (approx) today, but I'm being so lazy!

woowa - I'm intrigued about your names. I spent a lot of name on the baby names section of Mumsnet last night. We have a couple of names, but haven't talked about them seriously yet. We already have Rufus and Betty (short for Beatrice), and we both like Gabriel and Tabitha, DH likes Hermione, I like Persephone and Finian. It's nice having one of each already because we can test the names on our DCs and if they'd suit DD or DS they'll probably suit DC3!

I have got 8 days to wait until my scan, I will be 20+4 on it. I have being like it for every scan, even when I went to the MW at 16 weeks I was panicking they wouldn't find a heartbeat. It's just scary, and sometimes I see you guys on here and think I'm not getting that, should I be getting that etc. Like i say I keep thinking did I imagine that movement. Fingers crossed eh smile

I have got loads to do today too, well got a wedding flowers appointment after midwife, something to look forward to.

There is a lot of Scots here on this bus!! What were you all doing in May ha!!

littlemonkeybix Thu 22-Sep-11 13:18:09

Quick Q for anyone who may know.... Can I use codlsore cream during PG?

I have a beautiful one developing on my lip, and can feel one brewing up my nostril (TMI SORRY!!)

I'm such a sexy beast - raaar!!

Yeah, you can use it, I had a cold sore in early PG and got some on prescription, just the same stuff as normal.

Remember all the fucking trouble I had with my boss... There is now more, just checked my rota. She has now put me on a day off that i booked! The 30th for my scan!!! Can I ask her to pay me for this time I go for the scan and go in later? fuming is not the word

phlossie Thu 22-Sep-11 13:29:52

I think, legally, your company has to give you time off for referred hospital appointments.

That's the thing I thought I would be nice and book the time off as unpaid and work around it, I am a hourly paid employee. Seen my rota and I have being scheduled to work for the day I booked off for my scan (the 30th). i am sick of the way I have being treated. So I emailed my boss saying that I had booked that day off for the scan, to work on another day, except I have now being rota-d. So i will now be exercising my right to Paid time off for antenatal care, as I am entitled to it and will come in late for this shift.

I am sick of being walked all over and wasn't going to lay down nicely for this one.

littlemonkeybix Thu 22-Sep-11 13:58:37

Aww Innocent you've had a right time of it in work sad

Wish that we could go round and give your boss a stern talking to for you! What a plank!

It would be worth keeping a note of things like this... if she keeps dong things like that, would it be grounds to go for unfair dismissal if you had to leve over it??! I know that's extreme, but I always keep a record of everything untoward after I had a bit of a work drama myself! (bullying boss etc)

Good luck, and chin up chuck!! smile

diedandgonetodevon Thu 22-Sep-11 14:03:57

I think I have bronchitis sad Am sat at home wheezing like a wheezy thing and my inhaler is making not a jot of difference. Waiting for a call back from the doctor. Even the dragon of a receptionist was nice to me as she could hear me gasping down the phone.


PamBeesly Thu 22-Sep-11 15:12:38

Innocent they have to give you the time off for your scan. Its the law, I'd agree with monkey and keep a log of all the incidents at work regarding your pregnancy.
Also I know this sounds really basic but have you tried any breathing exercises to help you with the anxiety? I sometimes feel the weight of the world is on top of me with the stress of work and I need to zone out (and I can't indulge in wine) so I've tried breathing. Also I know a lot of massage in pregnnacy is a no no but could you maybe get your partner to give you a really nice foot rub or head massage just so you can unwind a bit and try to relax? Hopefully after your scan you will feel more assured.
The teen pregnancy group should definitely accomodate you, it would be nice to meet others in the same stages of pregnancy in rela life too.

I'm so jealous of all the scans its still 5 weeks until mine! Lovely to hear of loads of healthy little girls and boys though smile


ZhenXiang Thu 22-Sep-11 16:04:34

diedandgone sad sorry to hear you feel so unwell, if gets really bad while waiting for call back go to A&E, do not take chances especially as you are asthmatic.

Well done for standing your ground Innocent agree with others that you should write it all down (good thing sending by email as that is written proof from your end).

Just got back from my midwife appointment, somewhat reassured that the cramps and stretches and things are normal. Some of my anxiety is normal, well some of my worrying is. But she did say the amount I am is not. She did mention referring me to a listening service as they are there to listen. However because I am considering a home birth, if people get involved such as listening services and then they may refer to doctors and consultants meaning that HB would be out.

She listened to the heartbeat which was reassuring. Took some finding though so she said they are laying right at the back, which i thought they were anyway, or the placenta is at the front which is why it was harder to find (found it straight away at my 16w though) and may be why I am not so sure about some movement. She invited me to come to the weekly midwife drop in as she feels that it would probably relax me about everything, e.g listening to the heartbeat and just to have a chat. This is probably what I will do. Hopefully will be able to start bonding with my bump now.

Might try the breathing exercises, want to try some form of meditation and practice breathing exercises for labour. Hopefully at the teen PG group they might have some advice for stuff like that. Definitely will go though. Wanting to start pilates but at £8 a session, not something I can fully afford. But will wait and see.

Also got the email about my NCT classes and they are £157 (aren't they sneaky though by ADDING the membership to it straight away. You should have the option to put it ON, rather than have to consciously take it off. I know it doesn't take much, but still). Hope may be able to get some of the course fee discounted for low income too. Classes through December and January with the postnatal session in April grin hopefully be able to book my NHS ones after my scan smile

Well lets see what comes from the email I sent her comes to, i have being scheduled the hours so I have to get the hours scheduled paid for whether I work them or not. It is probably just a misunderstanding so I will see what she says when she sends me something back. Good idea about keeping a diary, already jotted some stuff down, so I will just add to that.

Bloody essay right there for you to read! But I am definitely feeling better!

ZhenXiang Thu 22-Sep-11 16:33:33

Sounds like you have good support from your midwife Innocent, weekly drop-in sounds like a good plan.

With regard to Pilates, I didn't do a class with DD, but used this book which is really good and has sections for first, second and third trimester. When you have baby you can use it too to get back into shape in reverse order (3rd, 2nd, 1st trimester exercises). I am using it this time around too in an effort to sort out my abs before VBAC.

ZhenXiang Thu 22-Sep-11 16:34:05

Oops didn't link here.

Gooseysgirl Thu 22-Sep-11 18:05:26

Hi all,
Wow new thread and loads of pages to catch up on since I was last on. Am getting very excited for the 20wk scan now... but still another couple of weeks to go. Can't wait to find out the gender, I'm tormenting DH with the 'names' conversation - he's vetoed nearly all my girls names just to annoy me I think!! We are more or less decided on a boy's name.. Peter Edward after both our dads who passed away a long time ago, Patrick was my dad's first name so that's another contender.
pambeesly come and join us in the Feb club on eumom.ie, they are also a lovely bunch and all based in Ireland (except me!) From what I've read on both forums and from friends in both counttires the ante-natal public care seems to be a lot better in Ireland, with hardly anyone even bothering to go private any more as the care is more or less the same. I had a mad notion for a while to fly home for end of pregnancy once I'm on mat leave and have baby in CUMH but it would have been too messy for DH getting time off and then us getting back to London etc so I saw sense in the end!!! And in all honesty I've no complaints about the care I've had here so far on the NHS - it's been great smile

I'm a sucker for X-factor and heard on the radio that the American version is starting tonight... won't be able to resist the temptation to watch, it's my guilty pleasure grin


PamBeesly Thu 22-Sep-11 18:14:10

Hi goosey welcome and I will have a look at eumom. I got a voucher for a free pack from eumom at my first ante natal appointment but haven't collected it yet. X-Factor USA is on ITV2 and 8p.m (well at least in Ireland thats the time and channel)

TheWicketKeeperIsDown Thu 22-Sep-11 19:10:30

Good grief - if we keep up at this rate, we'll need another thread in about 10 days!

ReadRideABikeSwim Thu 22-Sep-11 20:53:14

the wicket keeper - I am loving your cardiac advice - thankyou. My heart is doing a lot of flipping snd skipping and generally being a wee bit worrying but your words are very reassuring

innocent - poor you - the drop in centre sounds great and ideal to alleviate your anxiety

i am on number 7 baby but am with you on the anxiety ...i am only 17.1 and have no discernable bump and an anterior placenta. I have NO movement but word has started to get about so I am finding it cropping up in conversation which IS lovely BUT i feel a total fraud....like i'm not really .....its awful actually and hard to explain...

I really recommend my doppler but have even started to say to dp - 'did you hear that?' and turning the volume up full for like a five minute listen. I almost have to pinch myself to believe it's real..... I think it is just anxiety .....aaargh.

I have even read Amanda Holden saying she always felt funny about her liitle boy who sadly died....then I think that's me... Sorry to put a downer on this...feeling weepy now so better stop

Sorry not to name check everyone but LOVING all the scan news/names !! smile

m1nn1em0u5e Thu 22-Sep-11 21:23:02

Evening all....just had to let you know about the bargains for sale in Mothercare! They have got a mid season sale....I bought today 12 white vests, 3 newborn sleep suits, a gorgeous shawl & a full price outfit, all for £35.50, then remembered I had a £5 off voucher, so got a big bag full for £30.50!..I practically skipped out!....there are loads of sleep suits/vests for both sexes reduced to half price!


I got these today!..They will be ds first sleepsuits after he is born!....

Sorry for all those feeling anxious, have to say, I felt exactly the same with ds1, I just couldnt see me having a baby....but I did!..& he was perfect smile

m1nn1em0u5e Thu 22-Sep-11 21:26:29

PS 22+1.....always forget to add that bit!....

PS the shawl was reduced from £18 to £5, you can get a boy/girl version!....

deardear Thu 22-Sep-11 21:41:00

evening all. i am paranoid now over my hardly there bump - nearly 19 weeks and hardly showing at all - just my normal belly hanging out. does feel tight when i have trousers on so have started wearing leggings to work as its an office job. baby moving though!

will have a look in mothercare when i take DD 1 into town on sunday. really dont want to start buying stuff till after my 20 week scan but hey ho.

dont think it gets any easier anxiety wise with subsequent babes. i am worse with this one than i was ever with the other two! doesnt help when people comment on how small you are.

have weighed myself tonight as well and have lost 1/2 stone since i got pregnant sad

m1nn1em0u5e Thu 22-Sep-11 21:59:13

deardear, im still not back to my pre pregnant weight, I lost nearly a stone & a half in the first 17 weeks....

deardear Thu 22-Sep-11 22:05:55

Phew - thats alot but does make me feel slightly better. Consultant doesnt help by saying i need extra sxans as i measured small last preg and small baby. Didnt feel small!!

m1nn1em0u5e Thu 22-Sep-11 22:15:11

My friend had no bump whatsoever until around 7 months!..She had a healthy 8lb+ baby! Im sure everything is just fine. I had hyperemesis which was awful, but has luckily calmed right down now. Ooh just think of the extra opportunities to see your lovely baby!...btw my sister-in-law was having fortnightly scans due to a low lying placenta, & they told her 4 weeks before delivering the baby weighed 8lb already!..She panicked & took all her new born clothes back as she was expecting a 10lb er!..He weighed just 7lb!..hence a crazy shopping dash for newborn clothes!

woowa Thu 22-Sep-11 23:07:57

innocent , i don't feel bonded with this bump either, i can't remember when or if i did with DD. I was really disappointed when she was born too as I wanted a boy. However, the love really does come with time, probably different amounts of time for each person. You've got another 5 months with baby inside and a whole lifetime to get to know and love it when it is born. And most of us don't have to battle with the things you're battling with (being young and not knowing other mums, work being awful, money being tight). Do you know if there is a Sure start centre near you? I'm fairly sure they don't do antenatal stuff, but it might be worth getting in touch to see if they can put you in touch with other mums to be - and your teen group will be brilliant for that too. The minute you do have babyyou'll meet LOADS of people - look for church toddler groups, community centre toddler groups, sure start stuff. I hardly knew anyone before I had DD, now I know masses of people!!

Does anyone know anything about Goole? Just seen an interesting looking job advertised there for DH.

21 weeks roughly. ANd totally exhausted today, overdid it physically and DD hasn'tnappedand isnow struggling to sleep. Lady in Morrissons tonight told me i looked exhausted. SO itmust be true. SO, i should be asleep...

littlemonkeybix Thu 22-Sep-11 23:28:11

Hi ladies, I've not bonded with my -flabby- bump... And still feel like a massive lying fraud!

I've put on some pounds, but not loads, and not up to my top weight of a few years back... So just feeling fat, not pregnant!! I forget a LOT that I'm pg!!

Got some movements today again, but its a couple of pokes, then nothing for a few days. So not feeling it there either.

Hoping that changes over the next few weeks, brain is definitely not absorbing this as fact!!

Anyway, hope we all have a sleep filled comfy night, and a perky lovely day tomorrow x

QueenFee Thu 22-Sep-11 23:43:15

I'm struggling to keep up with this thread!
Loads to say but instead i'm sharing the story of this little miracle baby

If you google her there are pics of her now on the web. Amazing. Thats how big our babies are!

Rollersara Fri 23-Sep-11 07:13:02

Yes, I still feel fat rather than pg, and yesterday a work colleague told me she hadn't realised (I'm 20 weeks!) so must still just look like I ate all the pies!

Not felt any movement yet either, but had a scan yesterday and definitely a wriggler in there!

PDog Fri 23-Sep-11 08:10:08

Wow do we need a new thread yet? wink. Can't remember everything that has been said so sorry if I miss you but here goes.

crazybit I have bump envy. I have a work function next week and really want to look pregnant rather than fat.

kayano I am in Durham so not too far. bill there is an aqua natal class on a wednesday pm at freemans quay I think. Not sure about yoga but I saw an advert in sainsburys for parent and baby yoga and wondered if you could go to that while pregnant. Is on a Friday though I think when I am at work so didn't take any details. And there is an nct nearly new sale at new college durham in October.

phlossie we must have similar taste as I love all your names especially Persephone and Tabitha but DH has said no to both and Rufus! angry We just can't agree although he said he didn't mind Juno for a girl so I am hoping to convince him as I love it.

innocent and anyone else feeling anxious, keeping a pregnancy journal might help. I have just dug mine out from last time and started writing in it. It really helped to write things down and reading back has been good too as I had forgotten a lot of how I felt and it is similar to how I feel now so has reassured me. Have scared myself a bit reading the early days with DD though smile.

Got to go to work now sad.

PDog Fri 23-Sep-11 08:10:59

Sorry forgot to say congrats on all the scans and


Kayano Fri 23-Sep-11 09:30:28

It's really upsetting me that every single anti natal swimming session I come across is between 9 and 5 on a weekday angry

It's so rubbish!!! I need to go to work!

Hi all, congrats on scans, and on reaching the halfway mark!

I have bump envy for all the teeny bumps, woman in Tesco asked when I was due yesterday, cos I was tired looking, she thought I was due next week! I am massive, lol. Was same for dd2.

Had second 20 week scan yesterday, baby was still hiding his face, so I had to go away, walk about, jiggle a bit and drink a bottle of lucozade for the sugar. It did work, but I felt like a complete plonker, jiggling my massive tummy in the middle of the car park!

We have names sorted, although fighting about which way round they'll be, either Thomas Alexander or Alexander Thomas! Dh wants it one way, I want the other.

Hello fellow Scots too! Am over towards the west, wee village in renfrewshire.

QueenFee Fri 23-Sep-11 10:13:11

I'm in north wales just outside Chester so it would appear i'm miles away from anyone!
Whether I look fat or pregnant depends very much on what I wear... must try and make an effort!
I've put on my 1st stone. I usually gain about 3. I am sure most of that is my boobs they are huge!

littlemonkeybix Fri 23-Sep-11 10:44:31

Hey QueenFee you're possibly the closest to me. I seem to be in a black hole!! I'm just over the water and up the coast in Merseyside.

There's already been chuckles with me and some colleagues that I look like I have been on a pie binge wink Fortunately it is only on the tum, my face has remained the same, therefore it's all for the pregnancy and not because of the scoffs!!

littlemonkeybix Fri 23-Sep-11 10:45:08

oh and 16+6/17+6

PamBeesly Fri 23-Sep-11 13:07:02

I had my GP check up today, I heard the heartbeat on the doppler and everything seems fine.
For those who can't make it to antenatal yoga, there are some excellent videos on youtube just to get you started, I've started doing breathing and relaxation and some gentle yoga via my PC

18 weeks smile

phlossie Fri 23-Sep-11 17:42:29

PDog - I totally love Juno, but it has been vetoed by DH! I'd quite like it if bump was a girl because I prefer my girl names, and DD is more bothered than DH. Plus I'm close to my sister, and would like DD to have that too. On the other hand, after my scan I had a real 'I want a baby boy' pang.

For those who are feeling anxious - it doesn't lessen with each baby, it gets worse. And as woowa very wisely says, you don't always bond with your bump or even have love at first sight with your baby - I didn't with DS straight away - I think I was too bowled over by the process of giving birth. And he was a bit freaky-looking. But I can't express how much I adore him now. As for that Amanda Holden thing - she may have always felt something was wrong, but lots of women feel that and have healthy babies, it was just extremely sad that she was one of the few that didn't. Remember that people who lose babies and have sad or shocking stories (even if they turn out happily) get more media time than those who have straight forward pregnancies and healthy, full-term babies. Besides, I think that these feelings of anxiousness are to make us super-alert to what's going on inside us so we don't miss anything important. And that carries on into parenthood. I once rushed my dd to A&E because I thought she was having trouble breathing. By the time we got there she was fine, but I was a blubbering wreck and when I apologised for being insane, the lovely triage nurse said that mothers had to be over-alert in order to look out for their babies' health. I've never forgotten that.

Phew. Essay over. I'm very smile today. It's my birthday today and I'm wearing a fantastic pair of dungarees that I got on ebay! DH got me an amazing camera, and he's getting a take-away cooking me a meal tonight, then we're going to have a bath together and he's promised me a massage!

phlossie Fri 23-Sep-11 17:45:07

19+5 (and 32 today!)

PDog Fri 23-Sep-11 18:04:46

Happy birthday phlossie sounds like you have a lovely evening planned.

louby86 Fri 23-Sep-11 18:29:49

happy birthday phlossie grin

babycarmen Fri 23-Sep-11 19:23:24

Happy Birthday Phlossie, have a lovely evening grin

I am so unbelievably tired. Baby keeps me up all night kicking and wriggling. Im so glad its the weekend. Hopefully DD is going to my mums to stay tomorrow night so il get a bit of peace and quiet!.

I have some mississippi mud pie in the fridge.. Its getting demolished as soon as DD is in bed :D

Oh and still waiting for my physio appointment. And still in agony sad


deardear Fri 23-Sep-11 20:52:24

Happy birthday phlossie! Have a lovely evening

diedandgonetodevon Fri 23-Sep-11 21:50:04

Happy Birthday Phlossie!

I was right about the bronchitis. GP called me back yesterday and had me go in imediately without an appointment. Narrowly managed to avoid being shipped off to hospital on the spot, mostly because I had DS with me and DH was over an hour away at work, but am under strict instructions that I have to call an ambulance if I start to wheeze again.
Have a big stack of antibiotics, inhalers and steriods to try and clear it quickly so am sitting very quietly and taking my pills like a good girl.

Xavielli Fri 23-Sep-11 21:59:44

Happy Birthday Phlossie!! Hope you've had a wonderful day!!

I second (or maybe third) all that has been said about bump bonding! I certainly have never made the connection between bump and baby in terms of feelings until very late in my pregnancies and with DD not at all! Even after she was here it seems that everything up until she was 6months was a blur, it was as if bonding had been put on hold whilst I dealt with having two under 18 months. Even after that it was slow going as I had PND, but it all works out in the end and it cripples me to even think about thinking about her not being here!

I know it's easy with hindsight to say 'don't worry about it, it will come' but I truly believe if you tried not to put so much pressure on yourself to feel what you think you should and just go with the flow. Of course being a public commodity as soon as you fall preg doesn't help, everyone feels they have the right to comment and want to know 'Oooo, are you excited?' (No, most of the time I am just bloody terrified!) 'Aren't you a bit young?' '*4*!? You are going to have FOUR children' (Um yes... and they all only have one head so could you stop looking at me as though I have two!). Only YOU know how you will feel in pregnancy, as helpful as talking to other people who have been/are going through things at the same time as you, we will all be feeling different things. This thread is a good illustration of that, how many different degrees of sickness/cramping/tiredness/anxiety are there between just us lot? It's all pretty normal! And all you want in pregnancy is ''normal''!

DS2 had a Orthoptic appointment today as he has a Ptosis, he was very brave! He had to have eye drops and a vision test and he didn't cry or complain which the Dr said was very rare for an 11month old [Proud Mummy] grin and his vision is perfectly fine so will just be monitored every 6 months.

Been having lots of thumps low down today and my bump has pretty much disappeared so I guess titch has had a good old wriggle around to my back and is concentrating on working those limbs!

20+2 - 5 days til scan!

Xavielli Fri 23-Sep-11 22:02:13

X-post Devon - That sounds really nasty! I hope you feel better asap and your various pharmaceuticals kick in right away.

ZhenXiang Fri 23-Sep-11 22:19:12

Happy birthday Phlossie smile

diedandgonetodevon I am glad you are getting the treatment you needed, I was a bit worried about you after you described your wheezing.

melliebobs Sat 24-Sep-11 20:35:27

Wow so much to read through! And here's the first post for Saturday. Today has been the first weekend in 2 months DH hasn't been stuck in Pips room prepping or decorating so went for a meander in town. I did the inevitable bra fitting and shopping. Was allready to have an arguement over maternity/underwire ones (i was just in one of them moods!) but that wasn't required as at 18+6 i STILL don't look pregnant!) The whole experience was like getting a new pair of shoes and asking if it was OK to wear it home cos my old ones were SO ill fitting in comparison! lol

Also had a look at the baby clothes in H&M. DH fell in love with a t-shirt and HAD to get it. Baby pip is now the proud owner of an AC/DC shirt! If we have a boy and call him Dexter DH has said he also has to get this shirt so they can match as AC are his initials and DC will be pips! lol Loser!

QueenFee Sat 24-Sep-11 21:15:51

Mellie love the ac/dc link!

Xavelli please why do people think it's mad to have 4! I get those looks comments all the time.

Littlemonkey yay a fellow northerner!

woowa Sat 24-Sep-11 21:47:32

You all must be out havingfun, hardly any posts today!

melliebobs Sat 24-Sep-11 22:36:11

lol queenfee he only noticed this when he got home and sat down looking at it! i haven't even had one yet, but me and dh want a big family and have always said 4, but like i say, not even had this one yet!

Also whilst out and about i have had a major strop and issue with Boots. Joined Boots parenting club, got the 1st lot of vouchers and realised they needed to be used by 31st October so went to use them today. Absolute JOKE!!!!

Stretch mark oil voucher was for 500ml, they only stock 250ml.
Voucher for free Avent baby Bottle or Breast guards - They don't stock either. Asked if i could order it to collect. They said they can't do that on this offer. Oh and you can't order it online either.
Voucher for £1.50 off Shampoo. Couldn't use cos the head and shoulders was in a 3 for 2 offer and you cant use the voucher in conjunction with any other offer. Well i don't want 3 bottles of shampoo. I want ONE and i want my £1.50 off!!!

Whats the point in sending stuff if i can't bloomin use it. Where i live there are 3 Boots as well and the one i was in was the main HUGE town center one! I did get my 2nd Bounty pack though. Alot more bountyfull compared to the 1st one!

littlemonkeybix Sun 25-Sep-11 07:59:18

Ooh, might have to venture forth for my 2nd bounty pack now you've said that!

queenfee hooray for (far apart) northerners!!

I am currently in bed, having a "lie in" - NOT!! Woke up about an hour ago, with mild but very intrusive hip pains sad

Its not just ligments either, its like I can feel it rigt through the joint sad have put cushion there but still feeling it. I goot similar yest, but today's worse

I guess I'll sit still a lot today, and have a soak in the bath later... Undigging this!!


ZhenXiang Sun 25-Sep-11 10:13:53

littlemonkey if you are now sleeping on your side this is quite common, could be a bit of sciatica (caused by pressure on the sciatic nerve).

When sleeping on your side are you putting a pillow between your knees to keep your hips in line, if not this can help a lot. Also put one between your ankles if it is really bad.

Also at this stage you can swap sides from left to right while in bed giving each hip a break.

Sitting down for a long period of time is not the best thing if it is sciatica, it will put more pressure on the nerve.

Stretching and moving around improves it. Try some of the stretches here there are also other videos on youtube if you search under sciatica exercises.

Do not lift anything heavy and bend knees if you do have to lift. Try not to lift and twist in same motion. Bend down to pick things up using your knees not from waist.

Hope you feel better soon.

littlemonkeybix Sun 25-Sep-11 12:37:46

Thanks Zhen, I am using between the knees, will try ankles too! It doesn't feel like sciatica, its tjust the hips and it feels like the joint and muscles, rather than nerve.
I'm good with lifting etc (getting better too as was feeling abdomen stretch pains recently) Also, been switching sides (and waking DP in process!) Lots, but I think that's why I'm hurting so much on both sides.
I might sleep on the couch tonight, as I get propped up nice and comfy smile and get the TV all night!! grin
I'll have a look at those stretches later on my pc, currently on phone! I do yoga, and yoga based classes, so possibly similar stretches anyway. I'm quite a bendy betty!! My instructor was laughing at how bendy I still am, and still one of the only ones in class making a few of the poses properly (star pose, bird pose, swan pose and butterfly pose!)

Anyway, today is going to be the Grand Prix, yummy tea, bath, dvd and relaxing!! Ahhhh!

Hope everyone has a fab day!!

littlemonkeybix Sun 25-Sep-11 12:44:53

Oh, and making my pear and almond cake!! Yum!! I love our pear trees!!

ZhenXiang Sun 25-Sep-11 12:56:01

littlemonkey yes that doesn't sound like sciatica, when I was pregnant the last time I bought a thick mattress pad to put on my side of the bed to help cushion my hips.

They do get sore, there were nights I was grateful for my bladder waking me so often, so that I could get up and move around a bit otherwise I would get dead legs and painful hips!

Enjoy your cake, sounds yummy smile

Hello everyone - have been lurking for a while and not posted...in fact haven't even properly lurked because it seems I have about 10 pages of the last thread to catch up on. Three cheers for half way through and all the lovely scan news. Mine's not til 11 October so a little while to wait yet.

Right - that's the place marked and a bit of a wave at everyone - off to get the shopping and housework done...

19+1 or 2 I think

Sugar80 Sun 25-Sep-11 13:15:34

Horrible and rainy here today so I've been having a sort out. I've packed up any clothes I can't fit into and they won't be seeing daylight again until at least March (or Jan 2013 in the case of work clothes - woooo!!). Then I've gone through some baby stuff that lovely friends have given me, and started putting it away in the chest of drawers all ready! As a confirmed non-broody person, even I'm getting a bit excited about the teeny tiny clothes!!

Sugar80 Sun 25-Sep-11 13:15:53

Keep forgetting, 18 weeks today.

melliebobs Sun 25-Sep-11 15:08:35

sugar I'm the same with the clothes. The few we have are in our bottom of out chest of drawers. Every once in a while I get them all out. Have an awww and fold um up and put them back!

CoffeeOne Sun 25-Sep-11 17:26:37

mellie - we bought our little one an 'AB/CD' baby grow in the style of AC/DC haha! RE Boots, did you go to the one in the centre of Preston?! You must have had a bad day, I got the free bottle and I used the shampoo voucher on Pantene even though it was in 3 for 2! Try again with a different cashier!

welcome hermione!


gonerogue Sun 25-Sep-11 18:01:49

Hi Girls,

Just back online after a hectic time since my last post. Haven't read the whole of the new thread yet ut will catch up asap.

Unfortunately my lovely Dad passed away on Thursday morning. We have had a hectic few days and buried him yesterday so today is the first day I've had a chance to sit down really. Had my in laws over for the funeral as well so extra stress with them staying.

We were told on Tuesday that he had a couple of days left so we all spent time with him and he was himself up to the last - joking with the nurses and slagging us all off. He was moved to a hospice room so we were able to have 2 or 3 of us with him at all times.

It's s still a bit surreal but I'm ok for now - I think organising things over the last few days has been keeipng me going so am now taking a week off work as have loads of holidays left and I need to just relax and unwind. Porr bump probably doesn't know what's going on.

Will be back to post personals soon. Thank you to all of you for your messages and thoughts.

So sorry gonerogue, thinking if you. xx

ZhenXiang Sun 25-Sep-11 18:25:54

Gonerogue so sorry to hear that you dad has passed, I am glad you all managed to spend so much time with him.

Take it easy on yourself, now that the funeral is over it will all start to hit, it does feel unreal for a while. My DH lost his mum at the end of July and still has days when he can't believe she is gone and it all hits him again. If he could say one thing to you it would be that it gets easier with time.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family at this difficult time x

Welcome hermione, don't worry too much about catching up we are so chatty on here you will be there forever. Is this your first bump?

Sugar I had to put away my clothes a month ago as bump was already too big to squash into most of my clothes. I admit it did feel good packing away work clothes although as I am still working I have some maternity work clothes too.

Just waiting for dinner to finish cooking, soooo hungry. We have been out in the park all afternoon with DD. Had a great time kicking a football and running up and down hills smile

I am finding it harder now to lift her in and out of the swings, as I have to hold her away from my body which is not so good for my back.

I am reducing lifting as much as possible, but we live 3 floors up with no lift so when DH is not around I have to lug the buggy up the stairs, plus sometimes carry DD when she has fallen asleep. Bit worried about what I will do if I end up having another CS, will have to cross that bridge when we come to it.

CoffeeOne Sun 25-Sep-11 18:27:29

so sorry gonerogue, take care of yourself x

PamBeesly Sun 25-Sep-11 18:56:17

gonerogue sorry to hear your dad passed, glad that he was in good spirits before he died, always nice to know he was himself right to the end. Take care of yourself now x

QueenFee Sun 25-Sep-11 19:16:46

So sorry gonerogue x

Its a lovely day here and we went out to friends for a lovely roast followed by a stroll along the river smile fabulous

I have definately got twinges of spd starting again but am being really carefull as I cant afford a trip to the osteopath sad

Looking forward to this week scan on wed and consultant on friday!

phlossie Sun 25-Sep-11 19:53:05

That's very sad, gonerogue. No matter what anyone tells you, I think there's always a little part of you that never stops hoping for a miracle right until the end. My very close cousins lost their mum, my aunt, in May, and the sadness (and sometimes anger) comes in waves. I think you just have to ride them.

Thanks for my birthday wishes, everyone. It's been a good one! We also went for a roast with friends today, queenfee! Yum!

Yeah, my pelvis is clunking a lot too. I had quite a lot of pelvic pain at this stage with DD, but it eased off.

People think I'm mental for having 3, let alone 4!

diedandgonetodevon Sun 25-Sep-11 20:00:15

I'm so sorry Gonerogue sad be gentle on yourself x

Xavielli Sun 25-Sep-11 20:14:37

Sorry gonerogue. My thoughts are with you x

louby86 Sun 25-Sep-11 20:24:27

Sorry to hear your sad news gonerogue Thinking of you x

claricestar Sun 25-Sep-11 20:32:22

thinking of you gonerogue x

littlemonkeybix Sun 25-Sep-11 20:32:27

gonerogue there's not much really to say except I hope you keep yourself well. So sorry your Dad passed away. As someone said before, there's some comfort to be had that he stayed perky til the last smile

I've had a total relax today, so much so, I didn't make my cake!! But I am going to a bbq next week that my friend is hosting... So I'm taking said cake there grin

We've got my parents dog for the next fortnight, going to be fun!! Looking forward to having a furry hot water bottle at my beck and call!!

melliebobs Sun 25-Sep-11 20:44:22

i'm sorry to here that gonerogue. Thinking of you and your family x

yerr coffee i went to the one in town centre. Thought i'd have more luck there than at Deepdale or Capital Centre! tbh i wasn't overly bothered with any of it, it was more the fact i couldn't that wound me up more! lol

rnbsmum Sun 25-Sep-11 21:04:35

So sorry to hear about your Dad gonerogue. thinking of you x

m1nn1em0u5e Sun 25-Sep-11 21:29:55

So sorry Gonerogue you are in my thoughts x

Crazybit Sun 25-Sep-11 22:26:02

Aw Gonerogue-So sorry sad Please look after yourself smile

woowa Sun 25-Sep-11 23:21:38

Zhen, i find lifting DD onto hip at side works ok, then puttting her in sideways. It isn't foolproof as this can involve twisting, so be careful of your back. Hope you don't have to have a CS. (hope none of us HAVE to have one).

I've decided to stick with the hospital dating, so am now back to 31st Jan and 21+5. Thank you (was it wicket) for confirming what the consultant said was true, though it pains me to say it!! Obviously I'll not be joining the January thread at this point!!

Sorry about your dad gonerogue, out of all the hard things that can happen in life, it's the hardest I can imagine, especially when pregnant too.

Played the guitar at youth group this evening, standing up, and bump is now officially in the way! I have to put guitar to one side, very funny, and considerably different to play like that. I'm getting bigger much quicker than last time, so all these changes happening much faster!!

Have had a cheeky red wine and cheese after our VERY long day - DH was taking an 8am service and youth group finished at 10pm, so sure baby won't mind a bit of cheese and wine (a VERY small glass!)

So now i'm extra sleepy



So sorry to hear of your loss gonerogue. It cannot be an easy time for you, at least he had you there until the end, and could be himself. Do try to relax.

Trying to catch up for the weekend, being working grin so have not had chance.

I have that hip pain, can't remember who said about the pain, but I had similar before PG too, so I don't think it is related for me at all. My pain is shooting pains running through the hip and also if I sit down for too long or sat funny, when I stand up it hurts and I set (if you know what I mean). I can't walk properly for a good 5 minutes, it takes some walking off. all that may help you is just try regularly moving, and sit up in bed with LOADS of pillows under you, totally take the pressure off your hips.

Been feeling bigger and bigger as the days go on. I will be putting a picture of my 20 week today bump on when I can figure out how to get it off my blackberry. Got a proper bump now grin

Feeling lots of lovely movement. Not a massive amount of kicks but they move a hell of a lot, like they can't get comfy, bless 'em. I can feel them turning, moving, stretching... Cutest thing ever - I woke up yesterday morning at 5am, my bump rested on a small pillow - my bump was all left with the baby 'laying' on the pillow!!! Was surreal really, I felt and I felt a back. Loved it!!! Other day at work I had a little bum sticking out of my side next to my belly button too! However when they kick, I bloody know about it!! At work yesterday my friend put her hand on my bump when I said they were awake and she said 'Was that them?' (It was) and she leaped back going 'Arghhh!' She felt baby through my belly! grin She said it was strange ha!

Quick question for you all. Where is your bump? Are you carrying all over as in put weight on everywhere...? Or quite a wide bump? Or got a neat little bump at the front? Mines quite neat at the front with no weight anywhere else whatsoever

phlossie Mon 26-Sep-11 09:50:57

Lucky you, innocent! I have a very neat bump out front... but I also have a fat arse! Definitely the 16 side of size 14 around the bum instead of the 12-14 that I was before. It's funny because before babies I carried any extra weight in my thighs and bum, then when pregnant I get a big bum but my thighs stay the same, the after pregnancy my bum goes flat and my thighs and belly take the extra weight. I'm definitely a different shape than I was before having babies.

Jeff's quite wriggly. I have days where I don't feel him/her much, and then I have wriggly days. But not many kicks - certainly nothing you could feel from the outside. But then my placenta's in the way.

grin at your guitar, woowa. My friend's baby fell asleep on me yesterday, and I had the whole dilemma about where to hold her - down low, or balance her on top of my bump?!

Got a bump picture up now smile I just had to, looks small on picture compared to real life though ha!

I always carried weight on my stomach but during first trimester it all dropped off! And now I carry a little on my stomach but I think I have gained a big bum now grin i think! still in 10-12 clothes (maternity clothes) whereas before i was 12-14 more 14.

ZhenXiang Mon 26-Sep-11 11:19:23

Thanks Woowa for the swing tip, will try that today smile

Innocent your hip pain does sound like sciatica, I had it with last pregnancy and for a while afterwards if I over did lifting or carrying. Luckily it hasn't started up yet so cross fingers it will hold off a bit longer.

Sorry if I have completely missed this before didn't join thread until quite late, but are you expecting twins?

My bump is at the front, haven't started the expansion elsewhere yet as still going gym and doing lots of walking. I am feeling lots of wriggles and kicks, DH says he can also feel kicks now at side of bump and lower down when I am lying on my side at night.

PDog Mon 26-Sep-11 12:03:10

So sorry to hear your news gonerogue my thoughts are with you and your family.

Zhen No, only the one. I was convinced at first that there was two, but after scans they said only one. There is something still inside me that is saying that I am still having twins, like a baby hidden behind baby on the scan. I always refer to the child as 'they/them'. They are not an IT, and they are not a he/she yet IYSWIM

I have only just got a bigger bump in the last week , as they were playing in my back until last week. I am probably just carrying a lot of fluid though.

phlossie Mon 26-Sep-11 12:42:01

Nice bump, innocent! Also liking the star tat!

littlemonkeybix Mon 26-Sep-11 13:28:26

impressive bump there innocent - I now officially have bump envy!! wink

Mine's just looking flabby and pathetic... but quite pronounced! My mum even told me to stop sticking my tum out for effect the other day!! I actually told her to Eff Off!! grin She was laughing when I showed her the full extent of how big I look while sucking in!!

Saying that, DP agrees with me that it looks like my face has thinned!! I know I am a size 20, but I've always been broad... bit of a sporty youth! So I didn't look a size 20... more a 16/18. But I look FAT with this tum at the min... but the scales only say I've put on about 6lb. I think it's because I have no appetite in the evening!!

Squiglettsmummy2bx Mon 26-Sep-11 13:40:49

Haven't been on the bus for ages so jumping on board now, 20 week scan on Wednesday & I am sooooo excited grin as are my kids who are insisting they cone too & so it will be a family affair. Bump is huge, loads of wiggles & feeling ok.
Hope everyones bumps are cooking nicely x

Sugar80 Mon 26-Sep-11 13:44:17

Gonerogue I'm so sorry to hear your news.

My bump's going wide sad I wanted a nice, neat, all in front bump but it ain't happening... I'm not over eating, do loads of walking, and still getting out riding at least three times a week. I've only put on 3lbs in total (lost 3lbs in first trimester, so 6lbs in the last 4/5 weeks) so it must be the baby spreading out!!

Still no movement. Reckon I've just got a lazy one!


Kayano Mon 26-Sep-11 16:45:00

Had some proper lovely kicks last night and today at work. I'm turning into one of those mothers to be that I hate, seeming to talk of nothing else or think of nothing else and I have an urge to post every single thing on Facebook!

I'm resisting but I did wonder if complaining about needing the loo due to baby was an appropriate status update lol grin

I'm not thinking about babies for the rest of the night and instead going to watch some brilliant old films... Such as flight of the Navigator grin

I need a life!

melliebobs Mon 26-Sep-11 19:15:04

Omg had the most stressful 3 hours! angry Bloody car insurance nightmares (quoted £5000 to put my husband on my policy) and my 10 min journey home took 40 mins!!!!!! More car insurance crap to deal with when I got home. angry Just been for a 45 min walk to calm down. And now I'm sat down and slowly starting to settle pip is going bloomin mental! So that's put a smile back on my face! smile

4 more sleeps till we see pip again

babycarmen Mon 26-Sep-11 20:27:46

Innocent Your bump sounds a lot like mine smile He/she is a little wriggler!! Can see my belly move when it kicks too, so cute. Its also all at the front, very neat and no weight anywhere else (apart from the bra area!!!)

Stressful day today and my head hurts everytime i bend over sad Dont know why.

21 weeks today!

Xavielli Mon 26-Sep-11 20:48:01

Lovely bump innocent! Mine is just flab at the moment and I look like i'm carrying a full term baby in each arse cheek. I'm not one of these people who do pregnancy gracefully, I inflate like a bouncy castle. I also have 3 different sets of stretch marks on my run from each pregnancy, can't wait to see how this one leaves it's mark

20+5 - 2 sleeps til scan!!!

Xavielli Mon 26-Sep-11 20:49:29

*tum not run- damn you auto correct!

woowa Mon 26-Sep-11 21:26:34

my bump is out the front again, nice bump shape, my body is SOOmuch nicer pregnant!! I miss the bump when it's gone.

DD kept me up most of midnight -4am teething (i think) last night (but fortunately then slept til 8), and then didn't nap (teeth!), so am completely exhausted, and broke my record and fell asleep at 6.15pm!! I think if i'd been in bed rather than sofa, and if i hadn't locked DH out, i'd still be asleep. I need a BREAK! oh, and i can't have one... AH, love being a mummy most of the time but days like today make me want a few days off! HOW will i survive with 2!!



Crazybit Mon 26-Sep-11 21:38:59

Mellie-that's steep!
Squiggles-dD wants to come but she's going to be at school so it's a nono.
Innocent-impressive for number one!
Woowa-Hope DD feels better soon and you get some sleep smile

I've put another pic of my bump on the profile, it grows loads week by week!

Emz33 Mon 26-Sep-11 22:07:28

Being a bit stupid I'm sure, but where do I go to see all these bump pictures?

19 + 4, scan in three days. Can't wait!

Crazybit Mon 26-Sep-11 22:26:15

Emz-Click on the name of the persons profile then on that persons photos. smile

QueenFee Mon 26-Sep-11 22:58:34

Loving the bump pics!
I've popped a (terrible) pic on my profile in honour of being nearly 20 weeks. Have just stumbled accross a just about to pop pic from last pregnancy, very funny. It may be on my profile too!

Scan on wednesday whoohoo!

Off to bed now so tired still.

Kayano Tue 27-Sep-11 00:53:21

It's hammer time

actually does the mc hammer dance

Super awake.
Super getting internally booted

le sigh
my whole body clock is totally messed up angry

Squiglettsmummy2bx Tue 27-Sep-11 05:54:17

My body clock is mental too! I have been awake since 5am even though I don't need to get up until 7.15. My flat is quite small & if I start pottering around my kids will wake up so I'm just laying here rubbing my bump, which is also fast asleep!

Squiglettsmummy2bx Tue 27-Sep-11 06:01:12

Crazybit my 2 should be at school Wednesday but as my 8yr old dd has been telling my mum that I may not be able to fit 3 children in my heart & as she is the oldest it will be her that goes I am trying to include them as much as possible & as she wants to come to the scan I will bunk them off (naughty me!) so they can come. She is a bit of a drama queen & is comparing my love for them with hers for her build a bears & says when she gets a new one she doesn't love the old ones so much! sad

madeindevon2 Tue 27-Sep-11 09:22:20

is anyone suffering with headaches? I'm not dehydrated. Just niggling head aches...

madeindevon2 Tue 27-Sep-11 09:22:45

Oops sry I'm 19+3

phlossie Tue 27-Sep-11 09:38:49

I was, madeindevon, but they've stopped. Mine were tension headaches up the back of my neck, and I have added an extra pillow which seems to have helped. Just watch out for the pre-eclampsia symptoms, otherwise my midwife said that I should just take parecetemol.

This is very corny, squiglettsmummy, but it worked on my DCs - I told them that as the baby grows inside me, it grows its own love inside my heart, which keeps on growing. I said that I don't love it now as much as I love them, but I will when it arrives, but because it makes its own love, I won't love them any less!

Gah! Teething! That's the biggest design fault with babies! Teething is miserable. Big sympathy to you, woowa. I'm going to enjoy having older children this time rather than two little ones. It is mental, there's no two ways about it. But my two (19mnths apart) are very close now, which is lovely.

Kayano - I now have U Can't Touch This stuck in my head!

Stop. Hammer time.


phlossie Tue 27-Sep-11 09:40:18

Oh and Xavielli - a baby in each arse cheek? I'm feeling that! That's exactly what I keep saying!

Crazybit Tue 27-Sep-11 10:20:19

Squiglets-My dd is also a drama queen (aged 11) and I let her go to the 12 week one as OH was away, but he gets back this weekend just in time for scan and she's already had 2 days of ill this term so an reluctant to have her come.

Phlossie-That's a sweet idea, will do that smile

MadeinD-Yup, tension headaches I think. Last time I lived on co-codomol as they wouldn't go away sad

Kayano-I was rudely awaken at 4 am by dd, then couldn't get back to sleep. Crap isn't it.


Crazybit That is one hell of a bump!! Lovely though. Loving ALL of the bump pictures!

I know exactly what you all mean about body clocks. In the first trimester I was up throughout the night needing the loo. I had a brief respite of sleeping through and now I wake up at 3ish for a while and 5ish for about an hour too. And at 5 I am kept awake by baby wriggling! It's lovely though, just spend some time stroking them. I have to say DP is loving the bump as well, which is really sweet too.

Aww bless her Squigletts I don't know how to approach that really. I think what phlossie says would work. I have only got 2.5 DSD, so she doesn't grasp that yet. But she is being really good about it all. She comes up to me, lifts my top up and strokes my tummy going 'baby'. Then she will say either 'shhhh, baby sleeping' OR 'baby hiding!!' It is the sweetest cutest thing ever!

MadeinD I get the occasional headaches too, I just take paracetamol and get on with it, I don't know how bad yours are. I figure I have being getting mine when I sleep too much though.


lilyrose123 Tue 27-Sep-11 12:12:47

hi all
i thought i was doing well keeping on track of the conversations until i realised that there were 9 pages on a new thread LOL
thought it had gone unusually quiet! LOL
still being sick here and just about had enough now sad
sickness isnt as bad, but food aversions and nausea is worse, although i have managed to put on 2lb out of the stone i lost
got scan next week, a week today infact!
I echo some of your feelings....I feel fat rather than pregnant
although 2 A&E nurses have commented on how they can tell i have lost weight and what is my diet?? LOL
getting ready to be bridesmaid on saturday lucky for me its a flowling dress!

madeindevon i keep getting headaches mostly put down to dehydration, although today was different, only taking paracetamol stinks!

Phlossie Hi! glad scan went well xxx

can't really say i'm feeling movements.....hoping it will start soon!


PDog Tue 27-Sep-11 13:08:38

I have serious bump envy now. I look like I have 2 bumps - 1 above my belly button and the other below smile. Have put a lot of weight on my hips too so am also sporting an impressive muffin top.

I am sufferin from headaches too but down to not drinking enough I think.

It is DH's birthday today and he is off work so having a nice family day. Going to take DD to the park when she wakes up and then to the pub for tea.

Sorry you are still feeling rubbish lily, hope it improves for you soon.

Squiglettsmummy2bx Tue 27-Sep-11 16:58:08

Phlossie I love that idea & will be trying it on dd tonight. We are all very excited about the scan tomorrow & my 6yr old ds is taking bets on squigletts gender smile

Ooo new emote thanks just having a nosy on thread and saw this smile

Stop. Hammer time.


On a great note as well, I have 32 hours at work this week and 43 next week grin Happy happy girl here


Kayano Tue 27-Sep-11 19:21:22

Yet innocent, glad they got their act together.


I just need to get through tomorrow and then have a half day on Thursday for my scan grin

I'm so excited. I'm going with my husband and mum. It's our first baby and her first grandchild.
Because I'm adopted my mum has never been to a scan and I think she will really like to see the baby. I think it'll be really special and I hope bump doesn't cross their legs!

woowa Tue 27-Sep-11 20:10:00

Hooray! Saw my kidney doc today (a new one) and he said there's nothing really wrong, and to go away and only see my GP every year about my (inherited) kidney prob. As far as he's concerned I'm a LOW RISK pregnancy and i can just get on with life. The first sensible consultant i've seen!! Does this mean I can tell me OBS consultant she's mad and I don't need to see her any more??!!

Lots of wriggling today and also aching. Probably from picking apples on elderly neighbours trees. WARNING if you do the same, protect your nose from falling apples. OUCH.

Going to watch Downton now and do some baby knitting. Happy days!

babycarmen Tue 27-Sep-11 20:10:43

Great news about work innocent smile

Ive got physio on Thursday, finally, for my SPD. Im pretty much housebound right now. Doubt they will do anything but il feel better after a moan i guess.
I phoned to make my appointment this morning and the receptionist was like "Can you make it here in 15 minutes? Weve had a cancellation." Errm no, i live at the other side of town, i dont drive and im not even dressed yet, nevermind the fact it takes me 10 minutes just to get up the stairs, but thanks!!

It got me thinking, i dont actually know how im going to get to the hospital when im in labour.. Luckily i live in town, but its right at the other end, im thinking taxi?? We dont own a car, and if a friend etc isnt available. I didnt have to worry about that with DD as we had a car at the time and i ended up getting induced early anyway.

I put one of my scan pics on my profile, will take a bump picture up tomorrow when i can be bothered taking one haha...

Lovely to hear about all the lovely scans!


Crazybit Tue 27-Sep-11 20:34:12

Woowa-Good news from consultantBabyC-Apparantly physio can work wonders so hopefully it will be helpful. Lovely picture smile Just seen your hometown when looking at your pic, myfriend is from there but she has moved now. Probably massive though grin

Innocent-great news about work, don't you overdo it though smile

Woowa-Good news from consultant and yes it does wink

Kayano-That is lovely, I really hope your baby plays ball..can you get a picture of you and your mum at the hospital? could be a lovely memory to put in a frame for hersmile

Lilly-Sorry you're feeling so rubbish still sad

PDog-Hope you have a had a lovely day and tea smile

I had a random walk in session with an holistic therepist this afternoon as I struggle with my neck a lot from a whiplash injury a year ago-she said she has realigned me, that my posture is rubbish etc. Not sure if it'sdone much good really, wasn't really sure about her, I did fall asleep after tea though so guess she has done something..

Xavielli Tue 27-Sep-11 22:11:24

Woowa - great news! I have my first ever consultant app after my scan tomorrow and hoping not to have to see him too often.

Innocent - great news about work!

20+6 - scan at 9.40am tomorrow. Starting to get a bit nervous, things like this don't get any easier, no matter how many times you've done it before!

melliebobs Tue 27-Sep-11 22:25:19

Eeek loads to catch up on from just today and I'm on my mobile which makes it hard work. Good luck to all those with scans coming up! And whoever asked about the headaches I've been getting them towards the end of the day and it's not dehydration or anything. But after 2 paracetamol and it not going away u just got to grin n bear it which is a pain in the bum sad

Had a dodgy day today. Washed up last nights pots this morning and had a right puking episode in the kitchen sink. Dog went mental cos he was like 'what's going on!?' but I've pulled a muscle in my tummy and getting the worst stabbing pain behind my bellybutton. Strange! Lol pips been gettin a bit more vigourus. Felt more than the odd bubble popping this evening. More like they were swimming and headbutting against my tummy. Fool! Ah well evening all grin

Squiglettsmummy2bx Wed 28-Sep-11 04:59:43

Awake at silly o clock again & sooooo excited about my scan that I will probably stay awake.
Glad everyones scans & appointments are going well & good luck to those with things coming up. Sorry I can't do more personals but on my phone as our modem has died & i can't remember anything.
Going to lay here wondering pink or blue smile hope we get to see smile

melliebobs Wed 28-Sep-11 07:47:30

Good luck for later squiglett smile I'm guessing blue. Been loads of pinks on here!

phlossie Wed 28-Sep-11 08:00:08

Good luck with your scans squigglettsmummy and Xavielli. We definitely need a couple more for the blue team! I'm guessing boy for you both!

Is everyone updating the stats thread (wherever it is!) with boy, girl or surprise?

I just exploded porridge all over the brand new microwave. Oops!

babycarmen Wed 28-Sep-11 08:37:30

Arrrgh not sure whats going on with the stats page, i think people may be copying older posts and its knocking people off and changing dates back (and in my case knocking dates off completely lol?) Would be nice to update with gender, shall we start again??

Thanks Crazy! :D I hope they do something even if its just showing me how to help myself a bit.

Im so hungry, all i want to do is eat and sleep just now haha. DP told me last night he would like another DC after this one. Hmm, you can tell its not men who do the hard work huh? Most of my friends have 3 DCs and they all say how the 3rd pregnancy/labour was the worst and i admit it puts me off, especially when im struggling so much with this one so far, although im sure plenty of people have easy 3rd pregnancys! Anyway have other stuff to get past first, so DP can keep dreaming for a while haha grin

Im so paranoid i wont be able to get pregnant again after this one because im getting a colopscopy (sp?) once ive had the baby to see how bad my 'abnormal cells' are from my smear (got results like a week after i found out i was pregnant :/) and im probably worrying more then i should about it.

Ok babble over, im off to raid the cupboards :D

melliebobs Wed 28-Sep-11 09:03:16

phlossie lol i do that all the time. But when i went shoppin i couldnt remember if we had any porridge left so Today im on a pot porridge that you add water too. Not the best sad eugh Im sure in a hour ill be starving again!

Toodays my birthday too!!!!!! Can't eat too much cos going out for what should be a yummie meal this evening smile

Sugar80 Wed 28-Sep-11 09:52:01

Happy birthday melliebobs and good luck to those having scans! Mine's a week today (9.15 - I'll have had it by now!) - can't wait!

Home today as I've got the lurgy. Well, sore throat, headache and generally acheyness and lethargy. Paracetamol's not touching it, so I'm aiming for a quiet day watching TV and cwtching up with the dogs. I might even venture out into the sunshine with a magazine later...

Good luck with the scan today squigletts. I think a new stats pages should be started, I would do it but I'm on my phone. Just build it up from the beginning again.

Happy birthday mellie!! Hope you enjoy your day!

Just had the biggest breakfast ever, which included 3 of my 5 a day as well grin working today so I will be shattered tonight, but I gotta bring in the pennies. DP starts his new job next week, when we get the keys to our new house smile plenty of chance to nest grin

Enjoy the weather and your day everybody

mummymccar Wed 28-Sep-11 10:16:19

Wow - you ladies talk a lot! It has taken me hours to catch up!

Happy Birthday Melliebobs! Hope that you have a lovely day filled with lots of cake.

Gonerogue, I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. Thinking of you.

Innocent, Glad that your work seems to be getting their act together a bit more. Hope that you start to feel better about the anxiety soon.

Devon, I hope that you are recovering well.

Woowa Hope that DD feels better soon.

BabyCarmen Hope that your physio helps.

Bill, How are your palpitations now?

Congratulations on the boy and girl scans - fantastic news! Sorry to hear that some of you are still feeling sick. Fantastic bump pictures everyone, I'll try to get one up too when I'm not on my phone!

Feeling much better here - off the Cyclizine finally! Getting a nice, big, tidy round bump with no extra weight on. Apparently that may mean I'm having a girl? Our scan isn't until next week and I'm not sure that we want to find out but I'm not sure we'll have much control over it if baby wants us to know! Had my 17 week midwife appointment last week and midwife couldn't find the heartbeat for a very long time. We were starting to get worried when she suddenly found it. Baby wasn't too happy about being found though and gave the Doppler a few kicks for good measure. My cat cane and snuggled up to bump yesterday and put her paw down on the bump just where baby was - baby gave her a good warning kick which terrified the poor cat! She won't snuggle with bump anymore.

Had a bit of a hormonal day yesterday where everything just got on top of me and I spent the entire day crying. I've never cried so much in my life! Face and head feel awful today. My parents split up a couple of weeks ago which wasn't unexpected, but my parents aren't adjusting as well as we'd hoped, particularly my mum. My sister appears to think it is all about her though and has been ordering my parents to stay together for the sake of her birthday in December. She also hasn't phoned my dad at all to see how he is, and when I phoned to ask if she was ok she diverted all 5 calls and told my mum that she didn't want to speak to me because she was sure I only wanted to talk about our parents and she didn't want to. That's find but the 5th call was actually about my appointment at the midwife. I sent her a message but she hasn't bothered getting in contact so I'm going to leave it. Sisters, eh?!

Plus, I've been going out a bit more which has been great except for the fact that I keep encountering that breed of nab that thinks it is funny to tell a pregnant woman that they look fat. Nice.
Sorry for the moan!

On a lighter note, has anyone been using bio-oil? Expensive but it seems to really be working - my bump doesn't feel anywhere near as tight as it did a week ago before I was using it. Highly recommend!

Has anyone else signed up to the mothercare parenting nights? We've got tickets for next week and it looks great. Loving all of the cute clothes in there too - can't wait until after 20 week scan when we are going to buy things! A lovely mumsnetter gave us her unneeded pram too which was fab - a Bertie bidwell(sp?) that is very old fashioned and gorgeous! Not ideal for public transport but perfect for walks around the park.

Sorry for the essay and for any missed spelling mistakes/odd words (autocorrect!)


mummymccar Wed 28-Sep-11 10:17:53

P.S. Good luck with the scans everyone!

mummymccar Wed 28-Sep-11 10:20:20

From my last post - find sound be 'fine' and nab should be 'man'!

CoffeeOne Wed 28-Sep-11 10:23:37

Just a quick one....

PDog - my bump looks just like that too! Hopefully it will get rounder and cuter soon!

Happy birthday Mellie!

Good luck for your scan today squiglett smile

mummymc (and everyone) - bio oil is half price at the mo in Lloyds Pharmacy! I'm also going to the mothercare evening next week, will hopefully try out some nice prams.

19+4 (scan on Friday wooooo!)

Squiglettsmummy2bx Wed 28-Sep-11 10:35:23

Just a quickie to say cheeky baby is breech with umbilical cord between legs so still no idea whether pink or blue!
Hope everyone is enjoying the beautiful weather grin

Xavielli Wed 28-Sep-11 10:46:10

Scan was wonderful!! Lovely wriggly perfect baby! Has it's legs crossed though! This is the first time I haven't known and I'm not quite sure what to make of it

littlemonkeybix Wed 28-Sep-11 10:52:42

Happy birthday melliebobs - stuff yer face and enjoy it !! YAY!

WARNING I'm feeling quite the moaner today..

Rant mode on I "joked" about my training request not being approved.. said I presumed it hadn't considering the course in Manchester starts today and I'm not there. I then found out, the person responsible for the whole site's training requests hasnt sent them in yet!?!?!

She's on my team... and clearly is spending too much time thinking we all don't know she's shagging another manager in the room... who has a long term partner. Do your work love, you're getting boring now... and it's now directly affected ME!

There are no more courses available over the next 12 months (oh yay!) and my role is being dissolved when I go off on maternity leave. I am only on a secondment, so my "real" job is still waiting for me... but it means that my job prospects else where are now lessened. I was hoping to move jobs once we'd settled with the kiddy ... if only she bothered to do her JOB!! She's 2 grades above me by the way, so clearly I am not important!


rant mode off

Plus, trying to stave off "worried mode" as I felt early movements, and they were approx every 2 days... all little pushes around the abdomen - felt LOVELY... but I haven't felt anything since my 16 week appointment 2 weeks ago sad I am HOPING it's a placenta thing?? But would I know that from my 12 week scan??!! they never said anything.

Sorry.... today's clearly not started well (sore hips again), and now I am full moanywhinge.... feel free to ignore!


#slinks off to sulk in the corner#

littlemonkeybix Wed 28-Sep-11 10:54:41

Xavielli and Squiglet GREAT to hear your scan news grin

I can't wait for mine.... but have to!! EEEEEEE grin

CoffeeOne Wed 28-Sep-11 10:57:09

Oooh Squiglett and Xav, two cheeky babies! grin

littlemonkey - what a cowbag angry I hope you got her told?! Try not to worry about movements, it's still early and your little one will be kicking away in no time smile

littlemonkeybix Wed 28-Sep-11 11:04:44

Thanks Coffee

I emailed my manager (who's also her manager) as it was through him (and his predecessor) that we have been trying to get me on this course since FEBRUARY! I just told him whatI got told by her... so not sensationalising or anything. [sly emoticon]

there's a few of us been peeved at her recently as she's really letting it slip.... but this just got right under my skin (understandably)

Anyway.... cos it's new and I want to use it thanks to cheer up anyone who wants cheering!! wink

mummymccar Wed 28-Sep-11 11:47:00

Congratulations on little wriggly babies Xav and Squiglett!
Coffee - thanks for the tip! Boots have it on offer too but only a third off I think - shall be stocking up at Lloyds now! Really looking forward to the mothercare event - sounds like it'll be great from what I've heard so far.
Littlemonkey - that manager sounds rubbish! You should put a complaint in about that, especially since it will have ramifications for you. WRT the movement - don't worry too much, the wriggly ga are coming and going here too, they'll get stronger soon. Mine were really weak up until only a couple of days ago and are still not strong enough for DP to feel. Baby may just be hiding at the moment. Do you have a Doppler?

deardear Wed 28-Sep-11 12:02:21

i have bump envy sad lovely catching up for 10 mins and seeing everyones bumps - will have to work out how to put mine up. I am 19+4 and still in my size 12 jeans and trousers sad

called in to doctors yesterday to see if MW had any slots as getting lots of pain on my RH side doesnt feel ligaments but she says it is. more like cyst pain. have my scan in 2 weeks time so will get them to have a look.

we have decided i think to find out what we are having. i just feel the need to be organised.

baby is active - not big kicks - more like fingers tickling inside but nice anyhow.

gonerogue sorry to hear about your dad passing and hope you are ok and make sure you take things steady - these things take a couple of weeks to catch up with us but when they do they do big time.

littlemonkeybix Wed 28-Sep-11 12:26:57

mummy no I don't have a doppler, but I was going to speak to my nursey friend on Thursday, to see if her stethoscope would work?! My 16 week appointment MW didnt listen for pip as they don't in our area. Usual line of if they can't, they don't want the mother worrying... which I understand.

I think I'll text nursey now wink

deardear I'll swap your size 12 jeans for my flabby mess wink I manouvred it last night, and could see full bump... but when I let go, it hides amongst my flabby folds - hahah!

Crazybit Wed 28-Sep-11 12:34:27

On phone so will reply properly later just wanted to say congrats on the scans and babyc I had a colposcopy just before I got preg with this one smile all fine, not impressed with the third pregnancy being harder though sad

littlemonkeybix Wed 28-Sep-11 13:47:12

I've stopped feeling sulky now (hooray for egg custards!) and also my nursey friend didn't think her stethoscope would work, but we're gonna try for a listen anyway!!

Hope everyone has the sun shining on them!! I went for a walk to the local village from work at lunchtime.... LOVELY! plus I have a window seat! YAY!

QueenFee Wed 28-Sep-11 13:51:24

Babycarmen my 2nd pregnancy was my most difficult my 3rd and so far 4th have been much easier.
Yesterday was the 1st time a stranger asked me when I was due so I must finally look pregnant not just a chubster!
Had my scan this morning it was really clear. Baby was lying face down accross my hips!
All appeared to be well though so i'm happy!

melliebobs Wed 28-Sep-11 15:48:55

Xavielli and Squiglet how frustrating not being able to find out whether they are pinks or blues (that's if you were wanting to find out). I always say if you can't find out cos they have their legs crossed of chord covering the vital parts its a girl. Only a lad would lie there with their legs spread!

deardear i'll join you with the bump envy. 19+3 today and still in me normal jeans. All those years of teaching core stability must have paid off. As under neath the few layers of flab theres abs strong as steal that pip is struggling t o break through. Do notice it when i'm lead on my front though, not as comfortable as it was!

melliebobs Wed 28-Sep-11 16:25:19

www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/lookinggood/beauty/realvsyummy/ this popped up on my babycentre app the other day and made me chuckle

Squiglettsmummy2bx Wed 28-Sep-11 17:04:05

Mellie I did want to know as my pram choices are very gender based but am now swaying between a private scan & a surprise. I have a car seat & sling & will be in hospital for a couple of days as I'm having a c-section so sure I could send someone to go & get the right one for me if I wait & see. Hmmmmm what to do? Xavelli, what are you going to do?
Im laughing reading about all the flat bellies as mine is huge & I've been told not long now so many times I just smile & nod now rather than say no February actually. Us just lost 10 stone when I started ttc & am now 7 stone up with the stress of trying, the pregnancy & being a piggy blush I know I can lose it though so will worry about that some other day smile

phlossie Wed 28-Sep-11 17:07:04

Well, I have normal jeans envy!

Happy birthday, melliebobs!

I'm going to start a new stats thread. Everyone make sure you copy the one above you and paste it so we don't lose anyone. I'll do it now and then put in a link.

melliebobs Wed 28-Sep-11 17:11:05

oh no squiglett .... So how are your pram choices very gender based?! Which ones are you looking at. I've got a scan on friday, if we can't find out we are getting a scan more than likely with babybond had some good reports about them

phlossie Wed 28-Sep-11 17:12:41

shiny new stats thread

Update your stats everyone!

Squiglettsmummy2bx Wed 28-Sep-11 17:58:02

Mellie for a girl I have picked a pink silver cross surf & for a boy the icandy peach in sweet pea so need to know really. I've looked at babybond too, really can't decide what to do now. Im a really annoying super organised person so waiting to buy my pram after the birth goes very much against the grain blush

Sugar80 Wed 28-Sep-11 18:02:00

Stats updated!

Feeling a bit better now, think I'd just got a bit run down. DP has just pointed out my fat belly and asked if it was meant to have rolls... nice.

Still no movement

melliebobs Wed 28-Sep-11 18:18:24

I know squiglett cos with iCandy it's not as if you can just walk into the shop and buy it. Well not round here anyway they just have display ones and will order it. I'm looking at iCandy peach jogger in red or black so boy or girl it will look all cool n comfy in it's new wheels!

Squiglettsmummy2bx Wed 28-Sep-11 18:38:11

Sugar did you bash your dp? Lol. They say the perfect things don't they?
Mellie I like the surf in red but my best friend has a red phil n teds & another friend who's baby is due December has a red pram & we tend to walk about together as our sons are in the same class so I didn't want us to be the red buggy brigade, lol. You are right about the iCandy, it's one I would need to order. So many decisions hey?
Has everyone got names? I'm set for a girl but have no idea for a boy x

ZhenXiang Wed 28-Sep-11 19:05:17

Hello everyone, what a lovely day smile We have been in the park today, playing in the sandpit and enjoying the sunshine.

woowa - glad to hear about the consultant signing you off smile

babycarmen - I hope the physio can help with SPD. When I was pregnant with DD we had no transport so I asked the local cab firm and they were fine to take me in. As it was I needed to go in during rush hour/school run so no cabs available, ended up in an ambulance (we were worried about calling 999, but the paramedics said it was fine to call them).

Happy birthday melliebobs thanks, hope you enjoy your meal this evening.

InnocentRedhead glad to hear that work are giving you the hours now, good luck for the house move.

Xavielli and Squiglet glad the babies are doing well smile, can't wait formy scan next Tuesday. Shame that you couldn't find out the sex, hope my one behaves although it was very stubborn during the first scan so we shall see!

Glad baby looked well Queenfee smile

littlemonkeybix how frustrating about training angry, glad you emailed her manager and the egg custards made you feel better smile

Sorry to hear about your pains deardear hope it is ligament pain and it goes soon. I have been getting pain not from ligaments, but from the scar tissue stretching around my CS scar sad

mummymccar glad you are feeling better. Sorry to hear about your parents, what a shame your sister can't be a bit more grown up about it all.

Sugar glad you are feeling a bit better. DH sure does know how to make ya feel better doesn't he hmm

Thanks for the new stats thread Phlossie thanks

Xavielli Wed 28-Sep-11 20:43:11

Squiglett, seriously considering a gender scan! Been driving me nuts all day. We don't have much money or space so would like to know whether it's worth storing DS2's clothes or if I'd be better off selling them to buy girl stuff. This is the only one who has been shy, driving me nuts already. Lol

Happy Birthday Mellie!

Went to the local carvery for lunch today, was lovely! Also found out a good friend who had a miscarriage in late July is pregnant again! Lovely day all round

woowa Wed 28-Sep-11 20:45:57

Thanks also for the new thread, nice to be organised about something!

I've been feeling REALLY swollen today, down below (been on and off for a few weeks but today was the worst), bumped into a retired MW friend who said it could be varicose veins, but it could be something worse (like a cyst!) so i must be checked asap. boo hiss. Anyone else experienced anything like this? I'm not seeing my MW for another 3 weeks, am seeing consultant at hospital next week, but don't usually see a MW at hospital, think i might request to see one as i don't love my GP or consultant enough to get my bits out for them!! Hoping its ONLY varicose veins, which is awful enough!

No names here at all, DH said he won't talk about it before december as he'll only change his mind if we decide now. Fair enough. I've got NO idea really though and think this might be chosen after birth so we don't waste too much time picking one we won't use for the other sex!!

right, to downton catch up!

PDog Wed 28-Sep-11 21:01:17

Evening all

Good news on the scans even if some babies were being a bit shy and hiding their bits.

monkey that is really not on, has she apologised to you at all? Glad you are feeling better now though.

Mellie happy birthday to you! Hope you are having a lovely night.

That doesn't sound very nice zhen hope it is not too painful.

I still have back pain. Went to see doctor, she said it was probably down to some bone that I can't remember the name of moving. It should resolve itself but she will refer me for physio if it is not better in a week or so. I am supposed to rest, not lift or carry and not sit for too long - bit hard with a 21mo and a part time desk job hmm.

PDog Wed 28-Sep-11 21:12:16

X posts (slow typist).

Ooh woowa that doesn't sound pleasant either way. I have felt more tender down there at times but it hasn't lasted for long periods. There is always a midwife present when I see my consultant at the hospital to do blood pressure, heartbeat etc so would have thought there would be someone to ask. Sounds like you should get it check ASAP.

On my phone and there is a lot to do personals on so I will do tomorrow when I'm not on my phone.

Pushchair/pram wise, we have already bought ours Mothercare curv, got the pushchair with detatchable carseat, got is for 160 reduced from 240 and with money being tight you know. I would love a icandy orsomething like that though sad starting to think am I doing the right thing, hopefullyit will pass and it is just me suffering with the fear again. Hormonal day though and just being really stressed. Crying now just talking about it.

Night all, will be on tomorrow x

PamBeesly Wed 28-Sep-11 22:20:40

Innocent hope you feel a bit better in the morning. I'm getting a Silver Cross 3D Coco Classic and its €300 which is about €260 there is no way I could afford an iCandy either, the one I looked at was €1099, and I prefer mine anyway grin (sorry iCandy mothers smile ) My mother has bought a cot for me, with mattress for €100 so we're picking up bargains as we see them, your baby will be so loved and well looked after so it doesn't matter what she/he has, babies just usually want cuddles and clean bums.

Happy Birthday Mellie have some birthday thanks

Still no movement yet, even though I did feel something pressing down on my bladder then I thought I felt a flutter but only for about 3 seconds.

Everyone who has posted a pic has lovely bumps...mine is just a flabby tummy with no shape but I'll get there smile


PamBeesly Wed 28-Sep-11 22:21:31

Innocent I meant €300 is about £260! (and hoping it goes down in price in the sale)

QueenFee Wed 28-Sep-11 22:56:32

Woowa my ladybits always swell a lot in pregnancy. Not sure if thats what you mean however if it is it does make for good sex blush

<scurries off embarrassed>

Kayano Thu 29-Sep-11 07:33:24

SCAN DAY!!!! grin

Wooooo I am crazy excited. DH is ready to go, I am nearly ready and going to pick my mum up on the way grin

BillComptonstrousers Thu 29-Sep-11 07:43:43

Good luck Kayano

And updates ASAP please! From your phone, in the hospital canteen!

phlossie Thu 29-Sep-11 08:05:45

I'm really off sex. I dream about it and want it then, but when it comes down to it I don't really want to. It's a bit rubbish, really. It's partly because I had a tiny bleed last time we did it. The movements I'm feeling are weird because I have an anterior placenta. I think Jeff hides behind it, so I don't feel it so much, but I get lots of very internal flutterings and using my bladder as a punch bag! Good luck today, Kayano!

littlemonkeybix Thu 29-Sep-11 08:10:27

Awww kayano have a fab day grin hope your mum has the best time too!!

Update on training, my boss spoke to me about getting on to another course. I said there weren't any other than further afield, mainly London... He said look anyway and try to push for overnight approval grin

So I looked, and there is ONE other than london (too far personally) which is Birmingham. Also I have a pal in B'ham so we could meet of an evening gringrin

Application form amended, sent back to shaggy woman and copied in our boss... I will chase her up FREQUENTLY!

I have a good case as my role is being dissolved, I'm currently building up to an exit strategy, and this would be ideal to ensure wherever this part of my job goes can be smoothly taken over. My "real" job is secure for now so I'm not out of a job after mat. leave.

Hope we're all set for a good day smile I feel rather chipper, but exhausted! Mum's dog was playing up ALL night! But I went to 1st aquanatal class and met a handful of new people, one who is due within a week of me... Wonder if Michelle's on here!!?


littlemonkeybix Thu 29-Sep-11 08:12:08

PS will update stats at work... Difficult on phone wink

littlemonkeybix Thu 29-Sep-11 08:20:58

X posts there phlossie I'm totally off it too. Fortunately, the idea of it while I'm carrying pip totally weirds DP out heeheehee!

TMI time - I had a dream, and woke up ready to go wink so managed to persuade DP to get on the case... But as I "got there" my muscles all over went into odd spasms... Including my FACE shock

I then collapsed into fits of giggles as my face continued to grimace and contort!! That kind of sealed it... It weirds him out AND my face flips out grin DP put off!!

melliebobs Thu 29-Sep-11 09:18:46

Thanks for all the birthday messages guys smile Had a great day and a lovely meal last night and DH allowed me to have a small pinot grigot rose. MMmmmmmm looking forward to my xmas meal wine now! lol

Good luck kayano updates as soon as you know!

notcitrus Thu 29-Sep-11 09:39:16

Hello again - haven't been here for a few weeks.
Now 19wks, and a couple weeks ago got signed off for 8 weeks having previously been signed off for three, managed 6 days of work and collapsed again.
After more blood tests than I'd ever heard of, it seems that I'm having an officially crap pregnancy but Squirmlet is just fine. So I just have to lie down and rest most of the day - basically get A to nursery, come home with lots of sit-downs, go to bed, pick A up, that's about it. But at least I'm now feeling up to that, or other pottering about when MrNC can collect A.

On the plus side, the enforced rest means my SPD has faded a lot, and being over 18 weeks I'm finally allowed decent amounts of codiene so I can sleep which is helping a lot.

I don't get my anomaly scan for another couple weeks, though the 13wk one showed that a couple worst-case scenarios that family members had won't be the case for me. But I've suddenly become superstitious and am too scared to go to the NCT sale near me (wonderful range of bargains being in a posh area!) as it's before the scan. Tell me I'm being daft? I'm a hugely rational person who gets into arguments about risk levels on MN!

Hoping to find out the sex - as last time we have a girl name chosen, but not a boy, but as this is likely to be my last pregnancy (see above, plus taking forever to conceive), I predict I'll be gutted if little girlname is never going to exist - and nearly as upset if little possible-boyname isn't! I was bad enough last time, went for a cry in Woolworths until I persuaded myself that avoiding all the pink tat would be a good thing!

Enough rambling - is anyone else here in/near London?

Kayano Thu 29-Sep-11 10:14:41

I'm playing for TEAM PINK!!!
I'm so excited but slightly gutted as DH now completely vetoed the name Eden and is pushing for Sophie, which is too popular IMO lol

Everythin looks totally healthy and good and I got an extra long scan because they were training a new sonographer! grin

Over the moon!

Kayano Thu 29-Sep-11 10:17:05

Oh and the sonographer was super nice and the room was massive so she even let my Dad in the room. It was a family event lol... Mum dad, DH and me. I was expecting the sonographer to say is this a pfb? Lol grin

melliebobs Thu 29-Sep-11 10:32:09

congratulations kayano another pink in the thread! We need some boys to even it all up! As if DH has vetoed Eden, that's a lovely name!

littlemonkeybix Thu 29-Sep-11 10:41:09

Further training update... (sorry I apear to be hogging the thread at the moment!!)

I had a confirmation email that my form has been sent to the relevant people for authorising now.... looks like a nod to the boss worked [smug emoticon]

Fingers crossed I get approval for my overnighter in B'ham!! (then fingers crossed I pass the darned thing!!)

phlossie Thu 29-Sep-11 10:41:34

whoop whoop Kayano! Another girly! This is getting to be a bit of a pink bus - unless the shy babies are boys... So glad your scan went well. Hope your mum and dad enjoyed it too!

grin grin at your facial spasms, littlemonkeybix!

Sorry your pg is so crap notcitrus - though I'm a bit envy at all the enforced rest! Glad your SPD is easing off a bit.

I'm going to plant bulbs in the garden with DD now. She's home from pre-school today and the weather is amazing - is it where you are?

Remember to update your stats if you haven't already.
New stats thread here

littlemonkeybix Thu 29-Sep-11 10:42:36

Kayano excellent news... and for your dad too grin bonus!

and another pinky hey... I kind of want to find out what I'm having now... but really we want the surprise

littlemonkeybix Thu 29-Sep-11 10:44:27

Phlossie, Merseyside is overcast... but still warm... so flipflops in the office it is then grin

on that note I MUST do some flipping work <procrastinating face still firmly ON>

stats updated wink

spookshowangellovesit Thu 29-Sep-11 11:13:14

hello, have just been pointed here as i tried to make my very own feb club but apparently that is a no no grin
i am 19 week an have my scan on wednesday. all is good so far looking forward to it as will defo hopefully find out the sex.

babycarmen Thu 29-Sep-11 11:16:59

Kayano excellent news! Congrats on your baby girl :D We got an extra long scan for the same reason, was lovely!
So jealous of you all who get the option to find out the sex at 20 weeks. Our hospital wont allow it so we have to wait for our 4d scan (just less then 5 weeks to go!) Im so excited to find out so i can be organised, DD was a surprise which was nice too. Already convinced this one is a girl anyway!

Well, we had sex last night, for the first time in ages and my back is now officially broken! Thanks SPD! Although i think it was lifting DD out the bath last night that did it :/ I was awake the whole night and broke down in tears at 5 am and got up. DP has taken the day off work to help me (even though i said not to) and i have physio today so will let you all know how i get on there! I can barely walk this is a nightmare sad

WeLoveHaribo Thu 29-Sep-11 11:20:39

Hi new to this thread.
Baby No2 due 12th Feb. Not felt any movements and have teeny bump so was really looking forward to my scan (yesterday)
All is just fine, my placenta is also anterior which explains lack of movement too. Look forward to catching up on these threads.. Ive got some reading to do!!!!!
20+4 with yellow bump!

spookshowangellovesit Thu 29-Sep-11 11:24:19

hi welove i am new too this is my 4th. did you find out the sex?

WeLoveHaribo Thu 29-Sep-11 11:29:03

No surprise for me smile My husband wanted to find out for practical reasons!! But i didnt! We already have a 2yr old boy.
When you due? You had scan? What you got already? xx

spookshowangellovesit Thu 29-Sep-11 11:39:16

am due on the 21st, my scan is on wed. i'm with your hubby there i have to know otherwise my brain gets all fried with the possibilities grin paid for a private scan last time.
2 girls and a boy 11, 8 and 4.
i am sitting waiting very impatiently to see it me and dp are going to be moving next weekend. land lord is messing us around. wanted 6 months rent in advance. we said no so now we have to wait and so if they say no or yes. it all very tense hmm

deardear Thu 29-Sep-11 12:16:38

wow 6 months rent in advance! thats alot. i know most ask for one or two months but 6 months is a lot to find!

I want to know this time. I didnt find out with the DD's but as there is near 12 year age gap I want to be organised.

Got mine on 11 october and cant wait! I will be so dissappointed if they cant tell me what it is. Will definately book a 4D then so I can find out.

I had a norty dream last night, woke up and thought you know what, i am so comfy can i really be bothered and went back to sleep!

I had swelling in the nether regions with my last one. really painful and was told they were varicose veins

Lovely and warm here - i work part time so come 2pm I am off and sitting in the garden for a bit with some lunch smile

phlossie Thu 29-Sep-11 12:23:48

Hello you two newbies and welcome. This is a very chatty bus!

We have a stats thread here for you to add your important details.

Ooh babyC I can really sympathise about your back - I'm prone to a bad back, and have completely put it out a couple of times. Hope you can take some painkillers and take it easy.

melliebobs Thu 29-Sep-11 16:12:34

Welcome newcomers! This afternoon I have (according to some) committed an ultimate pregnancy sin. Had my hair cut and coloured. But not just coloured caked in bleach and toners so it's now nice n silvery blonde. Love leaving the hairdressers and being able to feel the wind on the back of my neck! Yey for short hair!

Going out for another meal tonight with DH then off to see Dave Gorman! Excited. Then no doubt a night of no sleep. Cos. Scan day tomorrow! 9am get in and now hes passed DH can chauffeur me there while I neck water!

louby86 Thu 29-Sep-11 16:35:34

Hello everyone! Wow! I've got loads of catching up to do, better dig the laptop out and hide away reading for a little while before I can come back and post to people!

Hello to the new people grin

SnoozingCyborg Thu 29-Sep-11 18:25:49

Hello hello, I popped my head up on one of the original early early babybus threads back in - jeez - June? July? Due 13 Feb. 2nd scan tomorrow! Time flies when you're sleeping through the first trimester. It's my first time everyone, so I'd be terrified if the pregnancy hormones weren't keeping me so docile. Like that great Preggo-Yoga pose on that Tara Lee DVD: The Cow, symbolising strength and docility. Great.

Will find out the sex, but mostly looking forward to making sure all the limbs and organs are in the right place...

P.S. If zitty with grey bags under eyes counts as a 'glow', I'm practically a supernova.

Squiglettsmummy2bx Thu 29-Sep-11 18:32:36

Well I have booked a gender scan for Sunday, I will never have £1000 for a pram again & want to get the one inject my heart set on so need to know colours (daft I know blush)
Snoozing, goodluck for your scan. Your glow sounds like mine.
Mellie your hair sounds lovely, I want to dye mine but it flares my excema up.
Kayano glad your scan went well grin

Xavielli Thu 29-Sep-11 18:37:06

Congrats on the girl kayano!

Feeling really low today. Think all the excitement of scan and lunch date yesterday has left me nothing in the forseeable future to look forward to. If I'd have found out the sex I could have been drooling over baby clothes lol. DP also had a job interview yesterday and hasn't heard back yet and it's getting to both of us.

I'm sure things will l

Xavielli Thu 29-Sep-11 18:39:34

Congrats on the girl kayano!

Feeling really low today. Think all the excitement of scan and lunch date yesterday has left me nothing in the forseeable future to look forward to. If I'd have found out the sex I could have been drooling over baby clothes lol. DP also had a job interview yesterday and hasn't heard back yet and it's getting to both of us.

I'm sure things will look better in the morning - no real problems but hormones make everything seem like the end of the world


Xavielli Thu 29-Sep-11 18:40:19

Ugh, stupid phone! Sorry for double post.

m1nn1em0u5e Thu 29-Sep-11 19:08:59

Evening all....feel really erghhh tonight, so hot & bothered & tired & achey....im lay in a dark room with a big glass of ice & cold water trying to shake this feeling off....DH is bathing the children, so I can hear the chaos & water splashing from here....nice cool bath & an early night for me....think I will crawl into work tomorrow if I still feel like this :/ 23+1

m1nn1em0u5e Thu 29-Sep-11 19:10:32

Xavielli....Thats a shame they couldnt see the sex of the baby....we had to go back for a 2nd time as the little monkey was all scrunched up....he is definitely all boy though!....lol

Xavielli Thu 29-Sep-11 20:05:01

How much are you paying for the gender scans ladies? Not sure I can justify the expense.

Kayano Thu 29-Sep-11 20:20:49

Me and DH said if we couldn't find out this scan we wouldn't pay for an additional scan. Too poor lol. All my money is goin on the iCandy Strawberry! Lol blush

Squiglettsmummy2bx Thu 29-Sep-11 20:33:39

Mine is £79 & they will keep doing them until I get an answer, lol. A lot of money but my mum has given me money for my pram & I have most other stuff from my older DCs so I don't have much to buy myself.

ZhenXiang Thu 29-Sep-11 21:40:05

Welcome newbies smile and congrats Kayano on your pink bub thanks

woowa Thu 29-Sep-11 21:43:07

ha ha on sex with swollen lady bits queenfee, can't imagine anything worse when this swelling happens. Not that I feel like sex anyway. I'm a crap wife! INterestingly, i've been really active today and the bits have been back to normal, more or less, so i'm thinking that the extra sitting around isn't good for me and I need to keep doing stuff. How tedious!!

It's been BOILING in teesside today, and northumberland which is where we went on DHs day off. Alnwick gardens, reccommend to anyone with toddlers! So nice to have a bit of lovely weather for a change!

Xavielli, know how you feel about waiting. DH got an application in last week, closing date was friday, and we still haven't heard if he's even got an interview. I think we both think that everyday now they'll be a letter saying no (as we assume they'd have called up pretty quiclkly if he'd been shortlisted), but no letter ever arrives. Sigh. ANother application will be in tomorrow somewhere else, got 7 months now til we have to leave this job and the tied house!!

innocent, honestly, get as much second hand stuff as possible and spend as little as possible on new things, most stuff you'll barely use, and i've learnt as we've gone along what's useful and what's not, and so much baby stuff is a total waste of money. Your baby needs you, your time and your love, everything else is optional (apart from nappies!!)

night all!


Sugarkane Thu 29-Sep-11 22:20:32

innocent Hope your ok today money is tight here at the min and I also have times of wondering what the hell we are doing but then I remember as mentioned above as long as you have love boobies/bottles and nappies the baby will be just fine. I look at it like this you never know what is around the corner, if you push for your dreams they will come in the end (ever hopeful me grin).

Welcome the returners and newbies.

Im just plodding along some days are good and I have loads of energy and low level pain with SPD others are a nightmare, just wish I could take something on these days paracetamol just will not touch it. sad

My dog was scanned with 5 puppies yesterday, god I feel sorry for her, she wont leave my side I think she knows we are in the same boat.

melliebobs Fri 30-Sep-11 07:46:02

1 hr 45 to go. I'm a bag of nerves and have to supervise dh down the motorway to the hospital. I'll be a wreck by the time I get there

Aww what a lovely dog sugarkane! Bless her. What is the gestation period of a dog? Feel a little better today about money, sat down with DP and we just talked everything over, the only stuff we have bought new is cotbed, pushchair/carseat and breastpump, all of it on sale anyway! Everything else being bought for us or second hand from ebay! Oh and the probable thousand nappies we have already bought, they are fine up to size 3 already!!

Scan day today, a little nervous, me and DP have decided to find out, names are stressing us both out so we have decided to find out now. DP wanted to know anyway! I know I'm another pink though! Got work straight after my scan aswell!!

Xavielli Fri 30-Sep-11 08:18:19

Good luck on the scans ladies! Hope your bumps are more cooperative than my little monkey lol

melliebobs Fri 30-Sep-11 08:30:06

1 hr 45?! I can't tell time when I wrote that. 30 mins and BUSTING for the toilet. Every time it bloomin moves its reeeeally uncomfortable. Argh

babycarmen Fri 30-Sep-11 08:44:03

Xavielli were paying £115 for ours but thats including the 4d scan, Its £95 for the gender scan alone!

Well physio was ok.. I wanted to punch the poor lady half way through. My pelvis is not aligned and my right hip is higher then my left, so she had to try and pull it back into place. I cried like a baby the whole way through i was so sore and it was roasting in there! And theyve given me crutches. Yay! sad My back feels a lot better today though so i think the procedure worked a bit. Ive to go back on Monday.

DP was a saint yesterday, i dont know how he puts up with me! DDs reply (shes nearly 4) to me having crutches was "Can i have pink ones mummy?!" :D

Sugarkane Fri 30-Sep-11 09:32:57

Innocent only 63 days and not long left for her now.

How come everyone but me has been told to drink loads for 20 week scan ive been told I dont need to??? Good luck with the scans im very envy.

Babycarmen Great news about the physio, might push me to book mine now as ive been holding off because they were useless last time.

Ive had my appointment to have my wisdoms out, then they called me to make it earlier as they had a cancellation. I cant bloody wait to get rid of the pain, although my letter says something about possible xrays? Im not allowed them am I? I think its just a standard letter. Oh well they know im PG so will just keep reminding them just in case.

phlossie Fri 30-Sep-11 09:35:51

That's very sweet about your dog, sugarkane! When are her pups due? I have an image of you doing labour breathing together. Can you imagine carrying 5? The mind boggles!

Glad you got to see the physio, babycarmen you poor thing! Some people (me) get a bit achy and call it SPD - but yours is the real thing.

I woke up this morning and made a weasel out of an old sock before breakfast. As you do.

DH and I went out for dinner last night, which was lovely.

Another weirdo scorching day today!

CoffeeOne Fri 30-Sep-11 09:46:30


Good luck to others also scanning today, eee! thanks

Xavielli Fri 30-Sep-11 09:56:22

Lol mellie! I hope you went for a wee as you don't need a full bladder for the anomaly scan!

CoffeeOne Fri 30-Sep-11 10:00:16

Really Xav? My appointment letter told me I need to! <currently chugging water>

Sugarkane Fri 30-Sep-11 10:07:32

Coffee Ive also been told no need with all 3, but better be safe than sorry and drink some anyway as your letter says to.

Bubble is due on the 27th October, so I will be able to give her and the pups my full attention when the time comes, although DP is very good and is more relaxed than me come birth time, so no doubt he will take over that part and I will just be on poo picking up duty. hmm

CoffeeOne Fri 30-Sep-11 10:19:24

Maybe it's mine and Mellie's area? We're under the same NHS. I'll just drink a bit haha.

So cute about your pups Sugar, are you keeping any?

melliebobs Fri 30-Sep-11 10:20:18

Good luck for later Coffee

Well i'm done. And (drumroll please) ...................... I'm on .......... Team Purple [hmmm] the little sod was going mental all jiggy on the car on the way there (and is now btw) but as soon as i was on that bed they decided sleepy time. Great for the sonographer to get all the measurements, but like it's mother it was asleep just like me. Hand above/just on their face, there little legs out strait and crossed at their ankles. Bless her the lady doing the scan really tried her best. She tilted the bed so my head was almost on the floor and my legs were in the air. She got me to lie on my left and had a look. Then back on my back. Then got me to lie on my right to have a look. Then back on my back to have a look. And then she said 'oooh it's moved', me and dh get all excited only to be told they'd tucked their legs under their bum as if they were kneeling down. Pip is officially grounded! lol not that it was going anywhere for a while!

So there we go. At my hospital they've just put scan photos up to £4 EACH but the lady said just get the one token and she gave us 4 photos so that's pretty good smile But aaaaaaargh the little tinker!

spookshowangellovesit Fri 30-Sep-11 10:49:31

how annoying i would have to pay for one then i need to know the sex. but glad all is well and healthy.

melliebobs Fri 30-Sep-11 10:54:49

im kinda in 2 minds about it now. From the start I always said i wanted a suprise but DH had kind of talked me round. Also i've seen the cutest winter boy clothes in Tesco and wanted to go get some! We were talking of maybe having a 4D scan because it's our first but not sure yet

Sugarkane Fri 30-Sep-11 10:57:59

Awww mellie will you have a gender scan or has baby decided for you that
the gender is going to be a surprise? They wont tell you at my hospital and cant afford a private scan so its lucky we didnt want to find out. grin

Coffee I really want to because they are both excellent breed standard, fingers crossed their puppies will be the same but I dont think I will be able to cope with 3 DC 3 dogs and a puppy, never say never though I will prob fall in love with them all.

littlemonkeybix Fri 30-Sep-11 11:23:00

ooooh scan news from everyone is making me sooo jealous!! grin Congratulations all thanks

I got my nursey friend to get her steth out last night... we heard my bowels (lovely hmm) and more of the same... and then, we heard some swooshy noise that sounded very much like pip having a swim grin

I wasn't expecting to hear pip's heartbeat, but I wanted to see what we could hear. As it was the swooshy swimmy noises were enough to make me feel happy!

Now... how can I hurry this time lark along to Oct 17th !!??! I WANT MY SCAN!! wink

littlemonkeybix Fri 30-Sep-11 11:24:30

Sorry forgot to WHOOP WHOOP at the puppy news too! what breed do you have sugar?

Sugarkane Fri 30-Sep-11 11:50:37

She is a beautiful bichon frise. Oh im getting excited now grin

littlemonkeybix Fri 30-Sep-11 12:03:56

I love dogs... definitely a dog person (plus allergic to cats)

DP is a cat man... result is... We have no pets! (I will win him round one day... I will have a dog again!)

PamBeesly Fri 30-Sep-11 12:31:00

Aww I love all the scan news! like you monkey I can't wait for my scan, its not until the 26th!!

Does anyone know if honey is safe to take during pregnancy? I googled but got lots of conflicting info. I have a really bad head cold and my throat is so sore. I was going to make hot lemon and honey but now I'm not sure.

Mellie you have a shy baby, protecting their modesty already grin

19 weekssmile

PamBeesly Fri 30-Sep-11 12:32:15

5 pups SugarKane how exciting! I wonder if female dogs feel the same labour and birthing pains.

Xavielli Fri 30-Sep-11 13:12:55

definitely dont need a full bladder... the only reason you do for the 12 week scan is to puysh the baby up over your pubic bone so they can see it smile

diedandgonetodevon Fri 30-Sep-11 13:39:41

Well I'm back from my scan- baby is a little devil and curled in a tight ball really high up and right against the placenta so there was no way the sonographer could tell the sex. On the plus side it also meant she only managed about half the scan so we are going back next week for a second go. If peanut isn't playing ball this time we will just have to book a private scan and they can bloody well scan me until we get an answer. For some reason this time I simply have to know...unreasonable possibly, but true.

More positively my meeting with the consultant about delivery options went really well. We are lucky that our NHS trust does not, in their words, 'bully you' about trying for a VBAC. It is left up to you to decide entirely so am feeling nice and reassured that I can have my ELCS if I want it.

littlemonkeybix Fri 30-Sep-11 13:48:41

drama alert I had a walk out to the village at lunch... as I got back to my desk, there were ambulance crew wheeling one of the team leaders past in a wheelchair!! She's similar age to me, but looked dreadful.

Just had the story filtering through, poor sod had a fit, and collapsed, smacking her head on the way down!!! shock

Hoping it's just the heat pushed her over the edge, she's been on medication for teeth troubles... hopefuly nothing more serious.

It's left everyone feeling a little odd!!

devon good news you get a 2nd go at your scan wink Good luck for a show off pip next time round!!

I am wearing over bump jeans today.... I am regretting that decision hot hot HOT

phlossie Fri 30-Sep-11 13:52:37

Well the mean people at my hospital make you have a full bladder, and as the fire alarm was going off when we arrived and everyone had just been evacuated my scan was 45 minutes late. I actually thought I was going to explode!

Fab news that all is good on team purple. But what's with all these shy babies?!

My baby's having a quiet couple of days hiding out behind my placenta where I can't feel him/her move. I'm looking forward to when he/she's too big to hide.

A friend cam round today who's due 5 days before me. I am so so so much bigger than her. Especially my arse. It's so depressingly huge.

littlemonkeybix I have the most RUBBISH baby listening thing ever. Summer Heart to Heart is what it's called (don't buy). It's a good job it was only a fiver. I can hear rumbling noises, but I put it on my thigh and could hear the same noises! I can just about make out my own heart if I put it on my chest!

littlemonkeybix Fri 30-Sep-11 14:44:38

training update (sorry I appear to be on thread hog again!!)

I have just had word that my training has been approved!! So I'll be in Birmingham at the end of Oct, beginning of Nov!! 3 day course.... I'd better pass the exam now!! HA!

On a funny note, the girl responsible for sending the approvals off, forgot to send her own!! Karma, anyone?!

Oh Phlossie how poo.... making you wait with a massive bladder! I had that at 12week scan, an hour late... and I was desperate to go from before I got through the door of the hosp!! it was PAINFUL! I nearly didn't make it to the loo afterwards... a kind nurse saw me waiting (there was a QUEUE) and directed me to the mens grin

Fortunately, they have made no water mention for 20week scan (YAY) so I wont be in the same position! (PHEW)

MrsHuxtable Fri 30-Sep-11 15:41:09

Good afternoon Ladies,
not been on here for ages again and it just took me a couple of hours to catch up with all the messages.

I'm loving all the nice bump pictures. Have to take one myself soon as well. I'm really surprised how many shy babies we have on this bus not wanting to show their bits. grin

I've been hiding in my bed mostly for the last week. Am really feeling down. I know this is silly but DH had to go to Cardiff for 2 weeks and because all food smells are still making me vomit, it's been really shit to make kind of healthy food for myself that doesn't smell. I really didn't appreciate how much he's been pondering to me. One more week to go and he'll be back.

I've been feeling so lonely, it's getting ridiculous. Just me and my cat, because I'm still off sick and don't really leave the house. Just saw on facebook this morning that my cousins friend is pregnant again - at the same time as 7!!!!!! of her friends. She really deserves it as her DH1 has been terribly ill over last couple of years but I have to admit that I'm really jealous. I have noone in real live who's pregnant as well or has a baby. There is a girl at my work that's pregnant as well but we don't really get on. Not since I fell pregnant anyway. We were fine before but I've been having problems with my boss due to my pregnancy and ever since that happened she's being all weird to me.

Sorry if this reads like a massive rant btw. I hope you're all doing well and Good Luck for those scans today!!

MrsHuxtable Fri 30-Sep-11 15:57:44

Also I have uploaded the scan picture.


phlossie Fri 30-Sep-11 16:13:08

Where do you live, MrsH? You could try mumsnet local... Have you signed up for any antenatal groups? I did NHS and NCT antenatal groups and met really nice people - I still see about 7 of them, and I'm really close to 3 of them and that's six years later. Going through all the pregnancy/new baby stuff is very bonding. Plus I have a fab group of mum friends from DS's school and a few good friends from DD's pre-school. It's probably a bit early for groups, though you could try yoga or something, but don't fret - you will meet lots of lovely people. I was like you, I had no friends who had babies at the same time as me when I had my 1st.

Today I met up with the one person I know who's having a baby at the same time as me - her 2nd. She lives a little way away, so we'll see how that goes, but I will be joining every post-natal and baby massage group going once bub arrives just to make friends.

DD's birthday party tomorrow and I have a cake to bake.

Glad your training's sorted, littlemonkeybix.

babycarmen Fri 30-Sep-11 17:00:51

Phlossie I have the Summer heart thingy aswell and agree it is rubbish! Would totally advise people NOT to buy it! I did have a shot of my friends angelsounds monitor though which was quite good, we heard the heartbeat at 17 weeks.

Lots of shy babies!! I cannot wait for our gender scan, 4 weeks and 4 days..not that im counting...

My DD got her nursery school pic back today, and they managed to get her to smile grin (big achievement) proud mummy...!


Have just read through whole thread to catch up and now I need a nice glass of wine! Some lovely news and some sad news too...

Can't remember whether I posted about the scan last week - it was a check to make sure cervix is long enough/not funnelling or dilating unexpectedly after colposcopy & loop excision a few years ago. Sorry if TMI. Anyway - evverything is fine and I got to see Bert wiggling away again! Proper 20wk scan not for a couple more weeks yet though - at 21+6!! Not intending to find out whether "he" is pink or blue (he is a "he" purely for ease of reference - feels much better than calling him "it") I don't think.

I thought I was feeling wind bubbles blush in my lower tum but am pretty convinced now that it's wiggling. Comes and goes so I have periods of smiling to myself and periods of panicking that I can't feel any movement.

Definitely looking bumpy now - will post a pic at some point. A couple of people have commented on how big I am while someone else said I had a tiny neat bump. Do people just make stuff up for something to say?

And joy of joys I got some money off/ectra points vouchers in tesco last week. One for 5p off per litre of fuel - lovely. And the other one? 250 extra points for buying TAMPAX. Flippin great. From the same shopping trip where I bought preggy vits, maternity pads and 3 boxes of ice pops. Every little helps, though, eh?

End of essay.

20 weeks today!

*extra not ectra

good grief and everything not evverything. maybe I should've had that wine!

Just wrote an extremely long post, and I mean massive, and the network crashed! extremely pissed off now! Arrrggghhhh

I am on team BLUE though and it was bloody obvious haha! Takes after his Daddy (the sonographer blushed at that one!) Have to go back next week as he was not laying right for her to get the spinal measurement, so get to see him again, taking my mum this time! And I have an anterior placenta

Back to my original dates now so I am a week less than I though 20th Feb now!

Also spent £36 on 250+ nappies today haha!

Will be back when I finish work

PamBeesly Fri 30-Sep-11 21:30:52

Yeah Innocent a little boy!

MrsH there are no MN'ers in my area and I know no one close by who is pregnant so this thread has been excellent!

Still feeling very flu-ish and had a lot of vomitting, just ate some toast so I hope I keep that down, and I really hope I can sleep tonight.

QueenFee Fri 30-Sep-11 22:00:51

Went to the circus yesterday smile whilst sitting cuddling ds1 I thought ge elbowed me however it turned out to be the baby! I jumped out of my skin, up to now I have only had rumbling kicks.
Had my consultant appointment today where I gave them more blood. He wants to see me again at 28 weeks. I am also having anti d at 28 weeks so I asked for the appointments to be combined. Man it took them half an hour to sort it. The hospital is half an hour away or I would have given up rant rant rant

woowa Fri 30-Sep-11 23:20:15

Honey - completely fine to eat pregnant, never read one single piece of advice against it. You should't give it to children under 12 months, so maybe that's where the confusion comes from.

Baby wriggling like a wriggly thing tonight. Crazy! LOTS of braxton Hicks today, once or twice a little achey, but the pain has gone now, so end of panic about extremely prem labour. Guess the old uterus is having alittle practice and gettiung back into shape to push. I'll have to look up when to start on the raspberry lead tea to help tone the uterus! (probably old wives tale, but you never know!!)

v busy day, v tired now


Sugar80 Sat 01-Oct-11 07:11:15

Up nice and early as