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We found out the sex at 20wk scan last time with DS, and I loved having something new to think about - having a son! This will be our second and last baby so I am hoping for a girl as I would be sad at the idea of never having a daughter. So we'll find out again at the scan as I don't want to be disappointed after the birth.

I've altered my EDD on the list:

Becky7000 15 February #4
Smac 25 February #2
pureeandpearls 26 February #2
Tigresswoods 1 March #2
DrSkid 1 Mar #3
Potpourri 1 March #4
onlyanauntie 1 March #1
369thegoosedrankwine 1 March #2
MissieMoosMummy 1 March #2
cyphercat EDD 2 March #2
Caitni EDD 2 March #1
Horsiemummy 2 March #2
Oscarsmumm 2 March #2
Pipsonhisway 2 March #1
sarahmikeharryandrosie 3 march #3
Donttrythisathome EDD 3 March #1
BlueyDragon 4 March #2
TakeLovingChances 5 March #1
Dalrymps 5 March #2
Dophus 07March #3
Twofalls 7 March #2
Carrie2010 7 March #1
BYM 8 March #2
CAFW 9th March #2
ilgb 9 March #2
Sariska 9 March #2
rebeccacad 9 March #1
wilkos 11 March #2
Lemonadegirl 11 March #2
*itwascertainlyasurprise 11 March #1*
Josie22 12 March #1
Swingsofglory 12 March #2
Iwonka 12 March #1
Scooby26 13 March #1
Vixie123 13 March #1
MrsSnow 13 March #1
Minicooper 14 March #2
slackrunner 14 March #2
Poppyjen 15 March #1
Annamama 15 March #2
Childofthe80s 16 March #1
mmtwgr 16 march #2
Scootergrrrl 17 March (??) #3
Arcadie 17 March #3
SleepWhenImDead 18 March #2
designerbaby 19 March #2
Kay1980 19 March #2
Luckysalem EDD 22 March #2
Veryworriedme 22 March #1
Easydoesit 24 march 2nd
Rindercella EDD 27 March #2
Fleximum EDD 28 March #3

Mrs Snow I am also feeling very lightheaded and weak. My BP is 100/60 which is very low for me so think this may be a contributing factor. Was googling last night and 90/60 or below is considered to be hypotension but as I am normally borderline high my body seems to be struggling a bit to cope with this drop. I am also wondering about my iron levels but my blood tests will show that soon enough. I'm not too keen on taking iron supplements though as I don't want to end up constipated but I really wish I had a bit more energy.
I've been away for 2 weeks staying with my parents which has been bliss. Lots of enthusiastic helpers with DD (16m) and my dog and I've not had to face the supermarket and only occasionally helped out with cooking and dishes so feel like I've had a real rest. Back to reality today though as DH was back to work and none of our toddler groups are on because of the holidays so just me, DD and dog all day long!
I'm definitely not keen on the swine flu vaccination, I'd rather take my chances with the flu than risk my unborn child with an untested vaccine.
We didn't find out the sex with DD but I had a very strong feeling she was a girl all along. This time I'm tempted. DH is desperate for a boy this time and I think he would have time to adjust to another girl given time! I would love another girl!
Interested in any VBAC stories. MW told me that I would have the choice but at my scan yesterday consultant was very much pro VBAC, put that in my notes and rushed me out the door before I had a chance to ask any questions. I was told I'd be under consultant led care again but she has dismissed me back to MW care and I have an appointment for 38 weeks with consultant. DD was a emergency c-section due to failure to progress (head got stuck although I was fully dilated).
My dates have changed again - I'm now into February and have been given EDD of 25th Feb so gained some more days having slipped back from LMP date with the early scans. All very confusing but now gives me a 23 month gap between DD and beanie and that makes me 13 weeks today.
DH told his mother today (last of the rellies to be told!) so I finally feel able to go public in the next few days.
No maternity wear required just yet but I'm definitely getting bigger. I've got a long body so plenty room for bubs to stretch out but jeans are starting to get a bit tight. Didn't get maternity jeans til after 20 weeks with DD.
Right sorry for rambling on been ages since I've posted so lots to say!

Oh dear - DH's cousin in Florida has just set fire to her apartment, it's totally wrecked and turns out she has no insurance, it will cost at least $25,000. Apparently she was making popcorn in the microwave late at night. 400 residents were evacuated between 1-4 am, now they want her out of the building, she is in her 60s (with bleach blonde hair) and has anorexia and lots of other things wrong with her. She has no close relatives and nowhere to stay. Poor woman. My DH will probably have to go over there and help her sort it all out... I hate being left alone with DD for more than a few days, I really admire single mothers!

PotPourri - hope you get better soon, that sounds awful! I didn't know you could break a rib coughing.

Pelvic floor exercises, yes important! But I think they might be even more important after the birth. Sorry for TMI but for a good few months after giving birth to an OP (back to back) baby (which apparently means a bigger head circumference when it passes through the birth canal), I peed my knickers every time I laughed, sneezed, coughed or jumped. Trying out a kids' trampoline was not a good idea! Now I'm 90% back to normal thanks to pelvic floor exercising a few times a day, could probably be 100% if I wasn't so lazy. First timers - don't be too scared or ashamed if this happens to you, it will get better and apparently you can get special help too if needed. Ulrika Johnson (a fellow Swede!) did a newspaper interview about this subject a while ago and she said that apparently lots of women suffer this in silence but shouldn't have to as you can get better. Of course Tena don't want you to know that... Ok, rant over!

Names names names... that's just another reason to find out the sex for us... I'm kinda hoping for a boy this time but we find it hard to come up with a boy's name so if it's another girl we don't have to worry as we have a name already.

Perhaps some hospitals have a policy of not telling because they don't want upset parents complaining if it turns out to be wrong...

Hi all-arcadie u are not the only northerner-im newcastle and going to rvi. Can find out the sex there. Dh did want to but after a chat i think he is happy to wait til dday and have a suprise.that is unless its obvious on the scan.i can see both sides and could be persuaded either way but at the mo think im plumping for a suprise. We are both convinced its a girl but will b happy either way.picking a name we both like has been far too easy-keep trying to think of others in case we regret it but keep coming back 2 same two x

Evening All

I was also induced with DD and although everything that could go wrong went wrong the induction actually worked and put me into labour very quickly for a 1st time. I had the pessary at 01:30AM contractions by 04:00 and my waters had broken by 05:00 it was only after that everything went wrong!. So generally although induction isn't ideal it isn't always as bad as were told.

As for finding out the sex we definitely will we did with DD and i agree it's lovely to be able to say she/he and call them by there name.

I also understand both opinions but I do find it very strange how fiercely some people are against finding out the sex. I remeber feeling quite defensive when I told people I knew I was having a DD. Someone actually said to me "Oh I'd never have found out because I think the only think you should care about is that it is healthy and you should be grateful for whatever you get" . As if we would have minded whichever sex it was.

I have lots of friends who also say that they didn't want to find out so that it made the long labour not so bad as they had another suprise at the end still to come. I completely understand this but for me the shock of having my first baby was suprise enough even though we were trying and had 9 months to prepare!.

DH also said he liked to find out as it helped him to bond with DD when I was pregnant as I think it must be harder for them as they don't have the bumps and kicks etc.

As for names that is also my favourite area of mumsnet too. We have some quite unconventional baby names so they always get vetoed there. I always struggle with boys names, me and DH have never yet agreed on one but we have an unbundance of girls names.

doctorskidaddle I have also been told that 3rd time is a lottery and can go either way. To be honest, it's generally a day out of your life for the most beautiful thing in the world, so I am sure we don't mind really. I just hope this one is smaller. As for finding out the sex, I didn't with my 1st, did with my 2nd and probably will this time, but it is a purely personal decision. I hate it when relatives interfere with things like this.

Mrs Snow - start as soon as you can with pelvic floor exercises before you become a tena lady like me

You need to do them properly though or its ineffective x

potpourrai - is it safe to do pelvic floor exercises before 12 weeks? I've been wanting to start (my mother's horror story of a bladder which never really recovered frightens me too much) but everyone keeps saying wait till I've passed 12 weeks...

Hey Everyone,
So many posts to catch up on!!!

Rubyslippers – I live in Streatham, so would definitely be up for a ‘sarf’ London coffee once my scan is over and done with.

Caitni – The belly bands are fantastic. I bought one on the last visit to a maternity shop. I was pleased that it feels really comfy and seems to have lots of stretch on it for when I really do grow!

DBaby – really sorry to hear about your friend. That’s so sad. I think you just need to give her space and be there on text, so you are still in contact with her and she won’t feel as if you’ve dropped her. No doubt your pregnancy is going to be hard for her but hopefully you can both be there for each other.

I’ve pretty much made the decision that I don’t want to find out the sex of the baby so (poor) DH just has to go along with it. I think if I get to a second or later pregnancy then I’d be tempted…just to be organised but for the first I definitely want the surprise. Its just going to be murder trying to find ‘neutral’ things.

Hope everyone has a great weekend
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Hi everyone Been out of fit this week. DD1 started school on Monday. The cough I have had for weeks on end went into my chest and became a nasty infection. So I am on antibiotics. Then I cracked a rib with coughing, so I am in excruciating agony if I cogh, sneeze, laugh etc. The infection is clearing now, so I hope the rib gets better soon - teh pain is apparently becauseit is all inflamed - and of course I can't take anything bit rubbish paracetamol.

My top tip for all of you is - DO your pelvic floor exercises religiously from now on and forever. Trust me on this one.

Now onto the good news. Had my scan today, and I am apparently 14 weeks + 5 (!!!) So my due date is 14th Feb. Mad pregnancy brain is now thinking - what is wrong. All the others I was told the date was later than my LMP calculation... But the baby was fine (only one! Phew!). Iam most defnately looking fat/pregnant. At my toddlers group this morning everyone commented on how much I am showing. Sigh!

REgarding subseqent labours, I was induced all 3 times and it was easier each time. Midwife also said that third time is a bit like first time, as it can go either way - weird. But I do think that in most cases second time is easier. I freaked out the night I went in to get induced for DD2 and the midwife was really nice saying it was unlikely that I would have such a horrendous time. She was right. Won't quote the timestats etc as most people don't think it is good, but it was a massiveimprovement, so I was happy with that.

becky - how was your 3rd different? Was it different worse or just different different?

db - wow you have even the middle names all decided?! I agree it is lovely to say he or she instead of it

Hi, just checking in and trying to keep up with everyone.

I didn't take much notice of the MW with DC3 when she told me 3rd labours tend to be different as DC1 and DC2 labours were the same just quicker 2nd time. BUT she was right DC3 labour completely different!

I didn't find out the sexes with other pgs so won't this time round but completely understand why people do. IT'S SO TEMPTING!!!

Anyone know if the Whittington will tell you? I really want to know - we found out last time after we had our CVS, and I loved being able to call DD by her name while she was still inside me, and refer to her as 'she' rather than 'it'.

It helped me get over the trauma of what had happened prior to that, I think, and really helped me bond with her.

I'd love to find out this time - DH wants a boy, I'd prefer another little girl, so it makes no odds. Just want a healthy one but I'd love to be able to start calling them 'Amelie Hope' or 'Jacob John' (JJ)...

db
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Drskidaddle no there is no large Asian Community, I wondered if someone might ask that which is why I specified that I would be going to Frimley Park in Surrey.

I really have no idea but I am not questionning it, quite happy to just trundle along knowing I have a baby whatever gender

Tigress - is there big Asian community where you live? I think that may affect hospital policy on disclosing gender. Am a bit of you having the decision taken out of your hands tbh - decision-making has never been my strong point!

caitni - may I assure you that I do not look in ANY way 'fit' - my poor DH is probably just trying to maximise his chances of a Friday night shag

DrSkid I also spend far too much time in the baby names section already (but reckon it'll only get worse as pregnancy progresses ). Shame Cian and Ciaron are out but I love Tadhg . I also love Sean, Declan, Finbarr...I could go on but I won't bore you all

And lucky you looking "fit"! Considering I didn't really look fit before I was pregnant I reckon I'll settle with looking a little less like I've eaten all the pies (and ice cream and dairy milks...).

Hey girls, thought I would throw in my 2 penny-worth on the finding out the gender discussion.

I am led to believe that our hospital has a policy of not telling expectant parents the gender. Not sure why. We are going to *Frimley Park in Surrey*

Anyway, with the decision taken out of our hands I am quite happy that we will just find out at the birth. TBH we tried for so long that just the fact that we are having a baby is enough for me.

However I see all the reasons from below why it would be important, especially if you have another family member who has strong feelings one way or the other as it gives them time to adjust.

I'm quite a gender neutral person anyway and will just buy lots of white clothes and wait for the cute boy/girl outfits to pour in from friends!

One last thought, my friend has been told both times, "We THINK it is a girl...." so even the sonograph people are not 100% right!

Pregnancy, fun, innit?!

He has a Ciaron and a Cian in his family so we can't really use them.. Tadgh (is that the right spelling? like Tiger without the -er) is another possibility that I'm coming round to. I like Fiachra - I hope you end up using it. And ha ha at waiting until March to post in the baby names section - that is where I spend most of my MN time!!

Hope you find some good mat jeans - makes such a difference to feel preg instead of fat! I am in mat only clothes now and I feel a hundred times better DH even said I looked 'fit' this morning, poor deluded soul...

DrSkid Aoife is lovely! Hope your DH changes his mind back soon! Not too sure about his take on Malachy, as I've only ever met Irish Malachys in my time, so reckon he just doesn't like it ...I also like Cillian, but only with the C spelling (as am a bit of a pedant and there's no K in the Irish language!). How about Ciaran or Cian (I love Cian) as alternatives? Oh we'll have fun in the baby names section once we get closer to March . I already love lurking in there and seeing what names people love/hate. PS Fiachra is indeed Irish is pronounced pretty much as it's spelled - Fee-a-kra (am rubbish at phonetic spelling so hope that makes sense!).

Have decided to sneak out of work early this avo and get down to Mamas and Papas for some maternity jeans. My tummy is too big for my regular jeans and am in a pair a size up that make me look proper fat (my ass looks extra massive in these baggy jeans!). Plus I think I need one of those belly bands, to try and make my regular tops last a bit longer. Luckily for me my line manager has bunked off already so I feel like I can take the p!ss slightly

caitni - crossed posts - that is lovely to name him after your dad. I take it Fiachra is an Irish name? How do you pronounce it? We would like to give this one an Irish name as DH is Irish but we can't agree on a name we like. We do both like Aoife for a girl (although DH has recently gone off it ) but for boys we can't agree at all. DH likes Killian but I can't get past the 'Kill' thing. I like Malachy but DH says it's not a proper Irish name and no-one in Ireland would be caught dead naming their child that

Arcadie - I also had a PPH with DD (so have had one delivery without since) and I have been told I can have a HB if I like. Don't know what number mine had though! Does that mean how much blood you lost? I had a transfusion of 2 units so don't think it was too bad - did you have a transfusion?

arcadie - I reckon they don't scan you at 8 weeks because quite a few people miscarry between 8 and 12 weeks but by 12 weeks almost all pregnancies will continue? Therefore saves money and perhaps a little heartache

I am the same with you re VERY SLIGHT preference for a girl and agree that once I have the baby in my arms I will not care if it's a boy or a girl but may be slightly disappointed (for my DD really, not for myself) if I find out it's a boy at the 20 week scan... we'll see

ruby - I second what your friend said although I know it's hard not to worry. I had a few crampy pains with DD which came to nothing.

TLC - I'm sure there are some other N. Ireland mums on this thread or did I imagine that?

DrSkid the boy's name is Richard Fiachra - Richard after my father (who died when I was young) and Fiachra cos I currently love it...but don't love it enough for a first name iykwim . The first name Richard is going to stay but I won't be surprised if the middle name changes a good few times before d-day (and of course would also be thrilled with a daughter!). I have no idea about policy on finding out the sex in Oxford...I've only ever had friends in Scotland say they couldn't find out.

%Arcadie* sorry to hear about your PPH - really hope it doesn't stop you having a HB.

Rubyslippers you're friend is totally right - amazing to think we're all growing little people - but wish it was easier to just relax!

I'd also love a meet-up for the Laaandoners amongst us. I'd even be willing to travel down sarf

I'm in Northern Ireland, very much would love to meet up with other pregnant ladies or other MNers, but as far as I know there aren't any

I'd love to be proved wrong though!

Hi RubY good to have you on board.

Anyone not in London/ South East? Someone must live near Yorkshire. I can't be the only Northern person who's pregnant

Hi everyone

Thanks for lovely welcome messages.
DB & DR I am sorry about your friends. My mum always told me to never be afraid to say something even if it is just "I really don't know what to say but I am thinking of you and if you need anything let me know". Its better than not doing anything at all. You never know who your friend would prefer to be around.

Josie22 - I had pains at 7 weeks and my doctor just wrote me a letter and told me to turn up to the Lanesborough Wing Ground Flr the following morning(by the blood tests). At 8.45am until Midday they do free scans. I had a referal letter but there were also women there who just went of their own accord because they were worried.
I got there at 8am and I was already 4th in the queue but they started at 8.45am and I was out of there by 9.30am feeling very happy and shocked that a heartbeat was visible on the screen.

I have also, just this week - after nothing after the first 6 weeks, started having crampy pains very low down but my friend who is about to have her second said it is incredibly unsurprising when a little person is been built inside you, using your blood, energy, etc. She said to just relax about it unless there was any bleeding or constant pain.

Definitely have a little belly now and all my trousers are just not possible although shift dresses are seeing me through and no-one has commented - well, not to my face!

I am in Furzedown (between Streatham and Tooting) Would love to meet up with anyone from the "Sarf" once my scan is out of the way and I can (fingers crossed) tell the world.

Good luck with all the scans and appointments everyone.

Hey all - just had booking in appointment. (45 minutes late VERY thorough midwife) Will await details of 12 week scan. MW was saying that the most accurate time to date you would be 8 weeks as they can tell to within 48 hours what your EDD should be. why don't they scan you then ? The longer they leave it the more inaccurate it gets as babies grow at different rates.

Not going to have tests. Not going to find out sex. Bit of a purist. But fully understand why other people would want to know. I know that for me i will be slightly disappointed to find out early if it's one particular sex and I know that once I've actually got baby in my arms I won't give a monkeys and will be happy with whatever I've got. I am more tempted this time round to find out to know which way round bedrooms will have to be shuffled but we'll have plenty of time once Tapioca comes out.

Hoping for a homebirth too. Might not get to have one as apparently my PPH (Post partum haemorraghing?) was 600 last time and the cut off is 500. I had no idea I'd bled lots with DD... no one said!

ooh what's the boy's name caitni? - will you share?!

FWIW I have 'known' both times what sex my baby was - I really felt very strongly that I knew and was right both times so your hunch might be correct

Also re finding out the sex, I think they won't tell you in some areas because of the whole terminating girl pregnancies thing. Does anyone know anything about this? We live in Oxford and don't know what the policy is here..

Designerbaby so very sorry to hear about your friend . You too DrSkid . I think keeping in text contact, allowing her to control when to see you/bump, is probably what I would do. It's important to acknowledge it and to let her know you're here but without crowding her...

It's interesting to hear what others are doing about finding out the sex. I've always tried to keep a "if you want to know, then that's great" attitude to friends and family so am a bit to hear people react strongly about it - they need to mind their own business . As this is our first, and we're just so bloody happy to be pregnant after years of ttc then IVF, we're not too bothered about finding out. My DH feels quite strongly that he doesn't want to know, whereas as I'm going to try and avoid finding out but won't mind if I can tell from a scan . For some reason I can keep imagining a boy...for no reason other than I have a boy's name I love but girls' names are currently eluding me!

annamama - we had the same reactions re finding out - a lot of people said, oh I didn't find out because I didn't mind what sex it was' - I used to get quite annoyed thinking well we don't mind either, it is just really exciting to know and if they can tell you, why not find out? It is strange how so many people find it hard to understand a viewpoint which is different from their own.

Not sure if we will find out this time. I suspect we will because DD really wants it to be a girl and I think it would be good for her to have time to adjust to the idea of having a boy if it is a boy. DH wants to find out too so I reckon I will will go along with that.

Loubudd - re labours being different - I saw the mw yesterday and she said that for some reason 3rd labours tend to be really different from previous labours. I was a bit taken aback by this as I had a fantastic labour with DS (2nd baby) and sort of assumed that it would be the same with no. 3. But as you say all this 'advice' needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt!

The whole labour was more difficult 2nd time round, but she caused me no injuries if you know what I mean. I don't believe anything midwives tell me. They told me my son would be an average size baby, and he clearly wasn't. Then they said my daughter would be about 8lbs at a 36 week scan- she wasn't. Then they said, "oh second baby, your labour will be much quicker" - it wasn't. I have come to the conclusion that I think they guess everything, so take it all with a pinch of salt. We all know it's going to come out and how, so I think we should all chill and not worry about it.....hmmm, easier said than done.

Oh Retromum, don't get me started on the subject of finding out the sex! It seems to be quite a touchy subject for some reason and I've almost had arguments with people about it... We found out that DD was a DD at 21 weeks, we thought why not if they can see what it is?!, it's exciting to know, and you can raid the charity shops & NCT sales for cute girls clothes... (we did buy the odd overpriced new thing too!). Both before and after the scan, quite a few people almost seemed upset with me, saying "oh why did you want to find out, you're spoiling the surprise" etc. I said I think it's enough a surprise to find out if the baby is healthy and what it looks like. But I can understand if some people don't want to know, for that dramatic "it's a boy/girl!" after birth. What's everyone else going to do?

Josie - I had some cramps on one side after I hade been sitting/lying in a funny position. If it's worse when you've been at work I think it must be just muscles...

DB & Doctor - that's real sad about your friends... Yeah, let her know you're there whenever she wants to talk or see you.

Sariska - Working full time + long commute SUCKS! If you can afford not to go back to work at least for a while, don't do it! I've just given up work due to 12 hour days away from home getting too much, and I love spending more time with my DD and resting a lot. (She goes to nursery 3 mornings a week though which is great for everyone!)

LouBudd - I'm glad you had no problems second time around! Anyone had a MORE difficult birth second or third time around...?

I had a friend who had a miscarriage when I was 7 months pregnant with my 2nd child. I was worried she wouldn't want to see me, but she did. She felt that I was someone she could talk to properly about how she felt. I was really surprised.

Desingnerbaby don't worry about recurring problems this time round. I was paranoid when I had my 2nd because when I had my 1st, I had stitches which had to be operated on again 10 months later (it's called a Fentons). I was so worried that when I gave birth again that the scarring would tear, but I had no problems at all. She was a big baby like her brother as well. He was 10 1/2 lbs and she was 9 1/2.
Who knows what will happen this time. Just remember all births are different.

DB - I am in exactly the same situation - good friend who was due at the same time as me has lost her baby. I have texted her quite a bit as I don't want her to think I'm not there for her but have said that if she can't bear to see me for a while I completely understand. It is an awful situation but I definitely think you should stay in fairly close contact with her and be ready to support her even if she doesn't want to actualy see you (or rather you bump) for the moment.

Congrats to all the scans - it's so exciting we are all nearly at the 12 week mark

Oh, DB, that's such sad news about your friend - but I would definitely contact her. Maybe send a card first? And then call in a few days time? Luckily for me (so far, touch wood etc) I have no experience of miscarriage but I did lose my father very suddenly a few years ago and it was made easier by people acknowledging what had happened, letting me talk about it if I wanted to and not cutting me off for fear of saying the wrong thing or making me feel upset.

Still no tummy size changes here either but I had a think about it and realised that when I was at the same stage of pregnancy two years ago, it was mid-September before I could no longer do up my jeans and mid-October before I really needed to think about maternity clothes. Still, perhaps that means it will be mid-October before I am visibly pregnant and thus have to tell work. I was a bit perturbed to be asked last week by one of the partners how I was settling back in. I said "er....fine, thanks. I've been back for 7 months (visible thought bubble: did you not notice????) and it's like I've never been away". Actually, the bit about it being like I've never been away is not true. It is irrevocably different (because of how I feel, not because of the job) and I'm still not used to it. A hefty commute = long hours out of the house doesn't help am I am already wondering how I will cope going back after #2. DH has already ventured the suggestion that perhaps I shouldn't. Anyway, am about to ramble so will stop now!

DB I'd drop her a text to say you are thinking of her and if she needs anything or a babysitter to let her know. Your right she probably doesn't want to see your growing bump right now but if you don't do anything she may well be upset that you have ignored it and are just getting on with your pregnancy.

It is a very difficult situation but you musn't feel guilty. Everybody is different I know when I had my MC I didn't want to see any bumps and cried walking down the high street when I did but when my friend had an ectopic she rang to ask if she could come round to hold DD.

HI all - going to start today off on a bit of a downer I'm afraid, but need to share. Met up with a friend f mine at the weekend who lives very close to where we are moving to (like 10 minute walk away). We told her our news and she said that hsshe was expecting too an was due the week before me. We both have daughters of a similar age (5 months between them). We were looking forward to being 'bump buddies'

Just got a text this morning to say that they've lost the baby.

She has a history of miscarriages prior to having her little girl but was feeling quite positive about this one after an ectopic scare in the early weeks (they couldn't see a sac early on, apparently, so the docs thought it might have been ectopic, but it wasn't.)

It's really sad. I don't know whether to get in touch or not, I imagine I'd be the last person she wants to see right now, sticky out tum and all.

Feel terrible for her, and somehow guilty. She's had such a rough time.

Anyway sorry for the .

db
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Morning all

I'm going to be at St George's too, mainly because I had no idea which one to pick and this one had a birth centre which I like the idea of. Am Richmond area so another sarf (west)london girl.

Rubyslippers - welcome and congrats! I had no idea about the drop in scans. Am not so much worried as completely unbelieiving of it all and my scan isn't until 13+2 weeks (which feels a very long way off). Do you think if I took myself along they would see me? Do you need to call first?

Mumbot - I would chase up too. I waited two weeks to hear before calling my doctor, only to be told he hadn't faxed my referral!

Is anyone else having any crampy type things. Mine aren't exactly painful but, especially when I am sat at work all day, they are noticeable. Am getting a bit concerned though sure its nothing. Anyone else?

retro- i have had two very quick, fab births, at the alexandra in Redditch,(I work there too as a house keeper in the evenings)so not worried at all, would like a home birth this time round, requested one with dd in feb 2008 but my bp went up so they were very reluctant and i gave in, this time round what will be will be- not gonna get my hopes up and see what happens,

i am going to try to find out the sex- we already have a 4yr old boy and 19mth DD, so will be easier if we knw incase we have to move bedrooms round etc!!!!

a friend of mine found out she is having a little boy due new yrs eve on monday!!!! so very exciting here!!!!

Well done to all those positive scan results in the last few days and to now being on the other side!.

There does seem to be a lot of us from London so a meet up would be nice. SMHR I am originally from Worcestershire and my parents still live there so we go back regularly. I have hear really good things about the hospital and water births there.

DB I'm glad you posted about it feeling like everything was falling out, this happened to me last night at work. I think it's because I stand for 4 hours plus an hour each way. It was just uncomfortable and made me want to put my hand under my bump to support it, which I remember doing last time but not until 36+ weeks! Lets hope this isn't it from now on.

I'm going to be having this one at the PRUH is anyone else going there?

I tried to find the heartbeat today on the doppler, it sort of found something at around 145 but it wasn't strong enough to hear. I think it's a bit early really and I certainly have more padding on me now than I did with DD!

Is anyone else thinking of finding out the sex of there baby?

Mumbot - you gotta chase 'em up to get your scan date! It could be that you've been "lost or forgotten". Happens all the time. Call NOW!

Re London meet, sounds fun, I might be up for that! I live in Kent (used to live in North London), and hopefully moving back to town soon anyway.

My DD was born in Ashford hospital, there was no birth centre there then, but now there is, with 2 pools! So I'll probably start there and if any probs "you just go in the lift up to where the docs are"... sounds fab.

Congrats to everyone who's had a scan recently, I'm still waiting for my NHS scan date, I'm 17 weeks by my LMP (but know I'm only 11 after private scan at 5 weeks), so thought they might get me in asap but no, nothing yet

Hope everyone is starting to feel better, I'm able to eat a few more things but still a bit dizzy and sicky

xx

Hey Ladies, 12 weeks scan done and out of the way!

All passed without controversy, we went in, we saw the baby (hoorah) and then I had bloods taken which I am not very good at and involved me blackmailing DH into taking me to Wagamamas afterwards.

My EDD changed by one day so in the interest of good administration I have updated the list accordingly. 20 weeks scan is booked in and I look forward to moving on.

My tummy has not grown (Like iwonka I am a lady of fluctuating tunny size) so I am not RUSHING out to get maternity stuff but hope I will sooon.

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Good luck to all of those who have their scans coming up, I hope all goes well

Poppyjen - the Barkantine, yes, I know it and think it's utterly fab. DS was almost born there after several hours in the birthing pool. I felt so safe, private and cared-for there, if that makes sense. Sadly, we had to go into the Royal London at transistion as baby had turned OP and my contractions had pretty much stopped in consequence. A drip got things going again enough to enable me to push him out and we hotfooted out of the hospital a few hours later. All our postnatal care came from the Barkantine. Am a bit sad that I no longer live in London so can't go the Barkantine. However have found another birthing centre near me in Hampshire so fingers crossed for a low risk pregnancy! Btw there are a few threads on the Barkantine you might want to check out. I've posted on most of them......

Hi everyone -

Ruby - welcome! I probably do mean Tooting, I just haven't got my Saaarf London geography quite sorted yet, having spent the best part of twelve years adamantly Norf. I've heard pretty good things about St Georges antenatally and for birth, apparently the post-natal care's a bit rubbish, but I think that's the same pretty much everywhere. Good to hear you're having a good time there - that's encouraging.

We're moving to Wimbledon (I feel like SUCH a traitor) well... who knows when? January? Mebbee? It depends on builders/architects/planning permissions/party wall agreements/the position of the moon/the builder's wife's cat's menstrual cycle/who knows what else.

P&P I think a London meet up would be fab... where are you?

Lovely pic SMHR. My 12week/9week one was a bit rubbish - looking forward to my 12week/14 week one for a more flattering one. DH said baby looked like a hamster for which he got an elbow in the gonads.

Anyway, food is served (when not insulting our unborn DH is pretty much a saint) so must dash.

Hugs to all,

db
xx

p.s. Dal 'uterus falling out' isn't actually as painful as it sounds - just that I feel very loose and heavy really low down and I can't think of a better way to discribe it. More duscincerting than anything, but it comes and goes...

Good point!

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Come and join me at the front of the list P&Ps- glad I'm not the only one on the wrong thread!!!

I'm another one in London....we're in Greenwich. I'm thinking about the Barkantine Birth Centre on the Isle of Dogs - has anyone heard anything about this place? It looks lovely

I've got my booking appointment next Monday but this is under the auspices of Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Woolwich as Barkantine don't take over care until 36 weeks (more's the pity...).

hi all, glad to hear the scans are going well,

i have put a pic from my scan on if anyone wants to be nosey!!!!

not in london- i am in worcestershire so the midlands anyone else local?

St Georges? Who else is in London- we could have a meet up!

I had the much-famed 12 week scan today and all is well. Hurrah- have been very stressed the last few days and was convinced it had all gone horribly wrong. They even brought me forward a few days so I'm thirteen weeks tomorrow. Another Feb due date to add to the list.....

Had the same battle to get my booking in that I had with my scan. When I fuinally succeeded in getting through to a midwife, she apologised profusely that my booking in will be late (Tuesday so 13+ weeks) and said that they'd been having a lot of this sort of problem with my doctor's surgery. Hopefully things will run a bit smoother from now on.

Hi to everyone and apologies for self-centred post. It's that kind of week in P&P Mansions.

Hey Everyone,
Mildly annoyed, my midwife has off loaded me to another midwife, meaning I don't get my appointment next week instead I have to wait another week. I realise that isn't too bad but was (in a strange way) looking forward to next week and maybe reaching a milestone. Instead I get to see on the bank holiday...in my house!! Oh well at least I don't need to leave the house as my light headedness has left me quite wobbly!

therubyslippers where abouts do you live, if you are going to St Georges?

Iwonka my stomach just has moments of feeling it has stretched and then feels as if it goes down and then feels as if it grows a bit more!!

So more waiting for me

xx

donttrythisathome, Tigresswoods and Annamama thanks for sharing your experiences/offering support. It certainly helps to know that your tummy will 'fluctuate' in size during your PG. I have been feeling so-so for the last couple of days because of this, and even told my hubby that I wasn't sure if I was pregnant, this despite the growing boobs, constant hunger, etc. This pregnancy thing certainly plays games with your mind. So glad to be able to share my 'dilemmas' with you guys.

Hi everyone

Joining with trepidation but have been reading for a few weeks now and it has made me feel slightly calmer so thought it was about time I dropped in.

I am just over 11 weeks with my scan on Tuesday.
Had ridiculous amount of blood taken a couple of days ago and have first midwife appointment on Sunday so I guess I can't pretend anymore.

Very anxious about scan - don't know why really but I see I am far from alone.

Designerbaby - I see you are moving to St Georges. Do you mean in Tooting? If so, I have to say they have so far given me excellent care and attention. I haven't had to chase for anything. All midwives I have seen so far have been delightful. They do free scans if you are worried - you just turn up for 8am everyday and queue with all the other worried mums to be. Brilliant! Helped me no end at 7 weeks.
I hope it continues that way and that you get the same treatment.

To everyone else - hello! Hope everyone is ok and coping with the endless list of bodily malfunctions we all seem to be suffering. Hopefully I can get to know you all better over the next few months.

Iwonka my stomach goes up and down - wind I would say, or too many cakes and bread....!

Hi iwonka My DH didn't come to the first mid wife appointment and I don't think they generally do. You can if you want obviously. At mine she lowered her voice and said, "as we are on our own, is everything alright at home?"

Also on the tummy thing, I too was feeling a bit "thick" round the waist too last week and this week am back to normal me so I think we have had a similar experience.

Isn't this pregnancy thing weird.

Arcadie- 6hr drive south to kent is to see friends in maidstone and sis in blackheath,london. Got friends in tunbridge too but havent been able to fit them into this trip. Driving down after scan at 9am! X

Glad some of you like my suggestion for a new thread title... Do I look pregnant yet or just fat? Well, my DH actually said last night that I'm starting to look pregnant, that my belly is getting "that shape". Bless him, but I don't know if I agree, it just looks like a jelly belly to me.

When someone starts a new thread, please make the first post small as it shows up at the top of every page!

Lucky you people who've had good scans! Well done! Mine is also 1 Sep. We're bringing DD too, she will be strapped in pushchair with lots of snacks handy...

Mumbot - that's so cool that you've felt your baby move already!

Josie - poor you having to go on the nasty tube. It's horrible even when not pg! Get one of those badges from London Underground where it says "baby on board" or something. And make sure you stand with bad posture pushing out your belly so it looks bigger. When I had to go on the tube last time I was pg I was actually surprised how many people (both men & women) gave up their seat for me. That was a bit later on though.

Doctorskid - "just one baby (phew)"! Haha, yes good comment.

MummyElk - I got curious too and read that thread... OMG, how stupid. You were totally right in what you wrote. If the child wants to climb on the sofa let him fall of a few times!

Dalrymps - Yes a newborn will stay where you leave it! And preferrably not crying... But what about toddler possibly being nasty to newborn? I've read that some people have to put newborn in playpen to protect it from toddler... Oh I hope that won't be necessary.

Iwonka - Try not to worry... About your belly, I think it's a lot to do with what you've eaten etc, as I've read that bowels are very sluggish in pregnancy. Mine gets bigger and smaller too. But if you're really worried about something call your midwife(s), they shouldn't mind!

Seems everyone is in good spirits, despite the MS, bloating etc.

Congrats to those who have made it to 12 weeks, you must be soooo relieved. I am almost there myself. I have my midwife appoint next Wednesday and my first scan on Sept 1.

Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this: my tummy got significantly bigger last week, to the point that I went and got maternity clothes, but it seems to have shrunk this week. Is that normal? I'm slightly worried...

Being PG for the first time is so exciting but there's just so much to get used to and I just don't what to expect, what is normal, what is a good reason for concern and what are the hormones-triggered paranoia??? Please advise.

Some of you mentioned that DH went with you to the midwife appointment, do they have to? Mine is definately coming for the scan but wasn't planning on bringing him to the other...

BTW, great new thread title

Morning All

Congrats to all those who have had there scans and are finished with the horrible first trimester.

I'm really glad your OH made it DTTAH, I would have divorced my DH too if he didn't make it.

I'm glad to hear that you took your DS Dairyimps as we also are going to have to take DD with us and I wasn't sure how they would react.

Well the backache has gone but the rest has stayed and I am constantly uncomfortable. My body doesn't seem to be able to make up it's mind between being constipated and the opposite. I have had terrible IBS ever since DD was born due to CS complications so I'm wondering whether it's all related. I have my booking in appointment on Monday so I will ask the midwife about it then.

Hope everyone else is well and getting past the sickness stage.

Easydoesit – my sister had a really heavy bleed with first baby at around the nine week mark. She had to wait all weekend for a scan (in which time she had convinced herself of the worst due to the heaviness of the bleeding) but it was all fine and she now has a gorgeous and very naughty two year old. They never found out what it was. Bleeding isn’t necessarily a bad sign but it is scary. I would try and speak to a different doctor/midwife if you feel you aren’t getting proper reassurance. Take care of yourself and try not to worry.

Mummy elk - there is an easy way. Click on person's name. It brings up their profile. It will also tell you the last few htreads they posted on. I just picked the most controversial looking one!

arcadie love the fact that you managed to trawl through the threads to find the one i mean! is there some clever mumsnet way of doing that then?! thank you though x

in awe of dairymps's ability to catalogue everyone's movements!! very impressive!

and glad for dttah and her husband's mad dash!

Lying in bed last night after Wee number 3 and did some maths. If I'm 9+3 which the scan said i was..that means I literally conceived the night I had my coil taken out !!!! I was pretty fertile last time but REALLY didn't think lightening strikes twice and all that!
Blimey

Hi everyone-I've been lurking too and keeping up with everyone as best as I can.
I had my 12 week scan today and combined test. Was totally bricking it, but it was all fine. Such a relief and a very cute baby if I do say so myself Very cute crossed legs with toes sticking up in the air.

OH nearly missed it though as he missed a train and had to make a mad dash across London in a taxi. i swear I was just planning on leaving him when he rang to say he had arrived. Very rational me

Hope everyone is feeling well - can't wait for the second trimester!

Ooooh Scooby... Kent? <ears prick up emoticon> whatcha doin in Kent?

Sooo pleased for all of you that have safely arrived at 12 wees and those having had great scan results.

Fab thread suggestion - see we didnt need 100 more posts to think of one - just one clever lady!

Away to pack for a 3 day study trip away- feel like it like a hole in the head!!! Still when I come back it will be only be 3 days til the scan and a to a very long drive down to Kent!

ttfn xx

HA HA HA I just realised that when I posted earlier I wrote I was 'just pooping in' LOL

Back again...

veryworried- How did the scan go?

LouBudd- Glad everything was ok at the scan, here's hoping the next few weeks fly by

DB- How's the strange 'uterus falling out' sensation going today?

mini- Good on you looking in to joining the gym, I can't eve go up and down the stair a few times with out gasping for air like an old lady at the moment!

annamama- I know what you mean about having anew born being a shock after getting used to having a toddler. I'm thinking in some ways it will be eaiser than having a toddler as you can put a newborn in a bouncy seat and they'll still be there 2 minutes later, or will they just be crying at you? Anyway, I was saying to dh the other day that ds has just gotten more and more fun adn more interesting as he's gotten older but I expect all the new babies 'firsts' will be just as exciting. That first smile is magical

Loving the new thread title suggestion

Tigress- Good luck for your scan tomorrow

Scooby- Glad things seem to be getting sorted at work. Still appauled by their attitude though, 'headache'?! . Don't take no shit!

Mumbot- Glad you've got a doppler for reassurance. wish I had one!

MummyElk- How did the scan go?

DB- Glad your mw app went so well and you're feeling well looked after and cared for

MrsSnow- Hope the light headedness wears off soon. Maybe mention it to the mw next week, she might have some helpful tips?

pureeandpearls- I'm sure the scan will be just fine, not at all unusual for symptoms to dissapear at this stage.

Rindacella - Hope your sickness wears off and you feel better soon.

rebeccacad- I understand you feeling worried but my symptoms eased off at about the same stage and I have no bump at all, still scan was totally fine today! Hang in there, you'll be fine!

cyphercat- I think you have descrbed exactly how I feel. I am utterly exhausted and i'm sure at times dh just thinks i'm putting it on or being lazy. As expected this gets me irritated and annoyed, especially with all those hormones! I don't seem to be able to go out walking in the sun for any length of time without getting an awful headache. Here's hoping we all feel a lot better soon!

Takelovingchances- Woo Hoo! Congratualtions on reaching the 12 week mark . Glad your scna went well and your apponitment.

Not sure what's supposed to happen with your notes etc, think it differs from area to ares. At my booking in app I had a midwife who is known for being very thorough (she was last time too). She made me aware about all extra tests and said I can decide at the time which one's I want if the need arises. She also mentioned the nuchal (sp?) scan and advised me it is chargeable if I want one and told me when I would have to have one by etc. I got given my 'notes' folder after my scan today. The best thing to do I thin would be to ring and double check if you have any doubts

mumbot- I could have sworn I felt a few movements a few weeks ago but I thought at the time it really was too early and baby would have been too small. I did read that it would have been capable of involuntary movements at that point... Nothing since though and I didn't feel anything till about 16 wks last time.

josie- I know what you mean about feeling in limbo, it's awful when you just want to know everything is ok. I hope time flies by and your scan is here before you know it. Also hope your sickness eases off soon!

DrSkid- Thrilled your scan was fine. Aww at baby sucking it's thumb. Mine was just jerking about

Caitni - LOL at your collegues guessing you were pg from seeing you on MN

Congratulations on reaching the 12 week mark! I'll officially be 12 weeks on sat

SMHaR - Congratulations on getting to 12 weeks!

It's taken me sooo long to write this, bet there will be loads more posts when I post this!

Just checked the thread you meant (yes I'm always this nosey as I find it incredible that Mums can actually be so nasty to each other on MN). You said nothing wrong MummyElk. Silly oversensitive people. you stick with us girl, we'll be nice to you.

ha no it wasn't you! I'm prob over-reacting anyway. i just asked what i thought was a simple question and the next thing i know she's quoting me and saying I called her something I DID NOT! Anyway. enough. it wasn't you easy definitely not

why would anyone flame you?? it wasn't me was it?? if it was i never meant it ha ha!!

sorry just to add i wasn't scaremongering there re the scans - ignore. hope i haven't worried anyone.

hello all
Scan was fine too - I was bang on for the 23rd March so yay me and MY dates not the official LMP stuff!! So it puts me at 9+2 so have to go back in a few weeks. Nice to see the bean in there with a heartbeat and everything!
dairymps Agree re matter of fact sonographers - do they not realise it's a worrying moment for us?!! Honestly. The number of friends I've had who've not had good 12week scans has made me really nervous each time for my scan, and they have absolutely no sympathy!
Hey ho. am feeling slightly hormonal and hmpf anyway, got flamed on another thread by someone completely misunderstanding me . poor me. not good for the hormones! Might just stick with you lovely ladies for the moment in which case!

thanks Arcadie all sorted.

Everyone...has anyone had early bleeding? I'm 9 weeks. need some reassurance as the hospital had none in stock today!!

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Swingsofglory 12 March #2
Iwonka 12 March #1
Scooby26 13 March #1
Vixie123 13 March #1
MrsSnow 13 March #1
Minicooper 14 March #2
slackrunner 14 March #2
Poppyjen 15 March #1
Annamama 15 March #2
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mmtwgr 16 march #2
Scootergrrrl 17 March (??) #3
Arcadie 17 March #3
SleepWhenImDead 18 March #2
designerbaby 19 March #2
Kay1980 19 March #2
Luckysalem EDD 22 March #2
Veryworriedme 22 March #1
Easydoesit 24 march 2nd
Rindercella EDD 27 March #2
Fleximum EDD 28 March #3

hooray I'm on the list!

Just pooping in to let you all know that my scan went fine, sonographer was very matter of fact and we were in and out again in no time so not much of an 'experience'.

Still, she was professional and good at her job, due date was spot on (6th March). I had a tear in my eye when she showed me the screen and I could see all was ok. Dylan sat in his buggy shouting and chewing his toy car (teething). Dh is over the moon, seems more 'real' to him now he's seen the 'evidence'

Back later to catch up properly

I think that's fantastic thread. I second "Do I look pregnant yet or just fat?" or "I'm not fat, I'm pregnant!"

annamama - How about "Do I look pregnant yet or just fat?" fab idea for a thread titleXXX

I too have been lurking!!!! 12 weeks today for me and must admit i feel really good, although tired!!!! Got this week off from work and seem to be doing more than when i am work!!!!lol

good luck with up coming scans ladies xxxxx

Afternoon ladies

I've also not been on in ages - trying to cut down my MNing at work as I told a couple of colleagues about the pregnancy and they were like "well, we had spotted you were on Mumsnet so kind of guessed" . The joys of an open plan office!

It's so lovely to hear of happy scan news - here's to many more

So I've also made it to 12 weeks and am also very relieved and happy about that (am liking your cartwheels in the mind TakeLovingChances ). I've got my booking in app next Sunday, so Designerbaby it's great to hear that the Whittington midwives are so lovely . I'm glad they're giving you the reassurance you need, as it should hopefully carry through when you transfer to St George's and at least helps you to look forward (as much as that's possible ) to birth no 2. I've then got my scan next Tuesday when I'm 13 weeks exactly .

Am looking forward to making it public at work as my tum is definitely growing and am getting sick of trying to hide it! Sucking it in is just not cutting the mustard these days ...

Also it's very comforting to know I'm not the only one doing wicked farts (Minicooper I'm going to knick your "It wasn't me, it was the baby" ) and waking up at odd times. I've also been having vivid nightmare-ish type dreams...I've never really had nightmares and am finding it quite disturbing at times. I reckon it's all my pregnancy anxiety coming out in dream form!

Hope those feeling sick start to feel better soon.

hi everyone - haven't been on in AGES and have been trying to catch up with all the posts but it is too much for my preg head to cope with so will start anew from today.

had my 12 week scan today - just one baby (phew) sucking his/her thumb and looking very cute. The sonographer kept going on about what a lovely baby it was {smile] - I was like, yeah right, bet you say that to all the pg mums!

Great to know all is well though and I can stop trying to hide my bump!

Hope everyone is well (seem to be from my quick scan through recent posts?) and promise to keep up properly from now on [slapped wrist]

Hi,

I did get a blood test at my scan, still have to ring to get results.... I forgot

Cyphercat Maybe midwife does think I'm "young and healthy and having a lovely pregnancy" I am 24 years old Not too much sickness, but VERY tired!

Thanks for comments,

T

Hi all

Haven't been on for awhile so will need to go back and reread at some point but hope everyone is well and progressing happily.

I have my scan booked in 2 and 1/2 weeks time. I wanted to go in earlier as on holiday next week but apparently they don't scan until after 12 weeks because baby isn't big enough to check for things (apparently 11 ½ weeks wont do!). Anyway, trying not to worry about it. Too. Much. Ahhhh

Until I have the scan though I feel like I am in limbo. Bit fed up of trying not to get excited about it in case something goes wrong. My sister said just don’t think about it but it’s easier said then done when you are throwing up all the time – it’s like a constant reminder (not a great one either). Ughh. Please let me stop being/feeling sick soon and let my scan come round really quickly!!! Also being very over emotional and cry every time dh does anything nice for me, like bringing me a glass of water even. Get a grip girl. Also finding that I want to smack people on the tube in particular all the people who bang in to me and in particular my stomach. Makes me feel very vulnerable. Plus wish I looked pg enough to be offered a seat as standing up on a moving tube when its really hot and you have ms isn't fun. Keep on having to get off the tube for a few minutes and then get on the next one.

Gosh...only meant to be a quick post as am work, obviously needed to get things off my chest!

Hope you are all enjoying the sunshine.

TakeLC Congrats on your pregnancy, your 12 week scan was your first major check for abnormalities - but you'll be offered another at 20 weeks and should be offered a blood test at around 16 weeks if you wish to have it

Also, anyone else felt the baby move yet? I've been feeling slight movements since last week, I've heard it is possible this early, it's deffo not wind and feels like the movements I had with DS1 only not as strong.

Still waiting for NHS scan but private one coming up next week.

xx

TAKELOVING - hi. I think you can ask midwife for tests. You can get free NHS test for down syndrome now called combined test. It's not 100 percent accurate, but it gives more accurate result than just a blood test. She should have given you a booklet about all kinds of test you should have but if your midwife is reassuring and quiet then maybe it means that you are young and healthy and having a lovely pregnancy!

Hi!

I've been away for ages, but I have been lurking and reading the posts.

Just wanted to say that I'm pretty much at 12 week date (a day or so to go) so I'm doing cartwheels in my mind! Happy!

I had my '12 week' scan and booking in appt at 10wks+6days and everything is fine and dandy. Baby looking active and getting more baby-shaped than the little blob we saw at 8 weeks!

Midwife was lovely, went through lots of questions, got a good history from me and a bit from DH. Next scan is at 22 weeks Which is sometime late October.

I was thinking though:- I didn't get to see the notes she'd made on me; do I have a right to request these, or is it best to wait until later? Also, she didn't mention any additional tests for abnormalities or anything of the sort. Didn't even mention these to me. So, does this mean that she thinks I'm at such a low risk that it's not needed?

Advice please for a first timer!

T

How about "Do I look pregnant yet or just fat?"

Cyphercat - I want shade, breezy air, good book and snooze too! Hope you get at least some of these...

I'm scared too that something will be wrong at the scan! Mainly Down's since I'm so OLD! (MW kindly said that I'm not old enough to be at highly increased risk though.) But even if you do get an increased risk, that doesn't mean that there will be something wrong, just further tests... Must be very distressing though, I know DB went through that.

DB - I'm sure you'll have a much easier (and natural) birth this time! Good that you're being looked after anyway. I too was in labour for ages, like 3 days, didn't sleep... and DD turned out to be back to back and had to be pulled out with ventouse. It just seems that people have much quicker and easier births after the first time, let's hope so anyway!

Rebecca, good luck with the house! We're going on holiday the day after scan as well, sure we'll be fine.

Rindercella and eveyone who's still sick, hope you feel better soon! Think I'm finally slightly better now, touch wood.

MummyElk and others, yeah of course it feels better knowing others feel crap too!

Not to concern you ladies but we're on nearly 900 messages. That only leaves us 100 left to sort out the new thread title.

hello everyone!!

I have scan next Tuesday and I'm so scared that something might be wrong..but that's just normal. I'm somehow feeling quite low and pathetic about everything as I'm so exhausted, nauseous, bloated, and had cold recently. All I want to do is sit and do nothing. Idea of cleaning makes me want to throw up...taking 2 year old out for a walk makes me sooo exhausted especially in this strong sun. And I'm learning to drive at the moment. I went out driving with DH this morning and just exploded into tears which didn't help either of our confidence.

All I want is shade, breezy air, good book to read, and snooze...is that too much to ask of this real world..???

Hi Everyone

it's been a while since I posted. We've been manic getting our place ready to go on the market. It's been a week of scrubbing, painting, shining, planting, scrubbing again and poor DH has had irrational, tired pregnant woman to deal with on top of that! Yesterday I asked if he'd like to share a pizza with me for dinner or should I put 2 in - he said 2 and I was overcome with affection for him and burst in to tears from which I could not be consoled. Have gone STARK RAVING MENTAL. The next minute am screaming at him for daring to suggest we could buy a less than matching door handle.

Good news is we're nearly there and everywhere looks lovely (why do we want to move again?!), but I can't wait to be able to just come home from work and rest instead of having 5 hours DIY in front of me! Seriously my whole body aches.

Scan next Weds, which I'll be really glad to have over with and know all is well. My symptoms really died down from 9 and a half weeks so even with the 7 week scan I've been really paranoid. Everyone says don'r worry, that happens to lots of people as the hormones gradually ease off from 9-12 weeks, but I can't help worrying! A wriggling baby on the screen should help and really wanted to get a fetal doppler, but making myself wait until after the scan as of course it's hard to hear anything this early and I could just freak myself out more.

I do have a bit of a pot belly now and as I've still not regained any of the weight I lost through MS I think it must be a mini-bump (but am terrified that it's all gone wrong and it's just wind or something). God am neurotic.

We go on hols for 6 days the day after the scan so again, really hoping nothing is wrong as will be really tricky timing - though obvisously bump far more important than holiday!

Enough about me, ramble, ramble...

Hope your place has sold for a huge price Dophus*!

*Designerbaby - glad your midwife was so good. I heard today that an ex-colleague of mine who had nightmare first birth (72 hours, eventual emergency c-section) has just popped her second out in 3 hours with no pain relief - here's hoping for you!

Pureeandpearls - totally with you on the paranoia - but you'll be fine!

Mrssnow - Be warned - I was surprised to spend an hour and a half at first MW appoitnment. they took loads of blood and a urine sample, so as well as form filling there are some little surprises. BUT it was really sueful, we talked about where I'd like to have the baby, all the tests etc and she was lovely. Really keen for me to try a home birth if I want to (not sure yet) even though it's my first.

Good luck with all the scans everyone and here's to everyone joining me on the other side of morning sickness.

x

Hello everyone.

It's been a little while since I last posted, but we're still hanging in there! I am knackered and sick but feel more reassured because of this. It's quite exhausting trying to keep a very active nearly 2 year old entertained though, when all I want to do is crash out. Still, at least I do not work anymore. I remember in my last pregnancy I had a very stressful job, had conference calls all the time & had ms really badly. It was grim!

My booking in appointment is next Thursday and I have a nuchal scan date of 14th September, which feels ages away. I am half considering going for a private scan before then as there looks like a fab clinic not a million miles away. But, I'm not sure if it's a bit of overkill to do that. The good news though is that my health authority no longer charges for the nuchal scan - bonus!

puree, just read your post and I really think you should insist on a booking in appt asap. Good luck with the scan too

I wish everyone well

DB- I want your midwife- twelve weeks and I'm still waiting for a booking in. Scan tomorrow and am not looking forward to it: the fear that it's all gone wrong has kicked in. All symptoms gone overnight so panicking. Did this last time and it turned out alright, so I know I'm being silly- not very good with the irrational part of being pg.

Can I start today again please?

DB How nice to have had such a long chat with your midwife and that they're taking last time into account. OOp North here the recovery time after a CS is no longer 6 weeks - it's "when you feel ready to drive/push buggy etc". But i know what you mean about not voluntarily putting yourself in for major surgery.

Hello Ladies and little bumps,
I hope everyone is getting through the m/s and other ailments. I've been ok but I have been very very lightheaded. I can't do anything for feeling like this. I looked it up in a couple of pregnancy books and google and the general advice is just to lie down... finally found it one book which says to lie with your feet elevated above your head and that should help. Well it did, until I tried to get up to do some things...

I've totally given up on using the tube, every time I get on it I feel as if I need to get off else I'll start throwing up.

I've still got a fortnight till my scan, but I have my midwife appointment next week. Not really sure whats going to happen there. A friend said 'just form filling' great.

DB - glad to hear that they are going to keep an eye on you this time round.

MummyElk - hope you feel better soon

xx

hello lovely ladies...

Just had my booking appointment at the Whittington - the midwife was LOVELY. Went through everything in lots of detail.

In short, because of fairly miserable delivery with DD, I'm getting lots of extra appointments to keep an eye on things this time and discuss my options.

I'm getting a couple of extra appointments to keep a check on my blood sugar in case undiagnosed GD had anything to do with DD being so huge - although midwife suspects strapping 6ft 4" rugby-playing so! Although she did say that even taking that into account, and my going 2 weeks overdue, a lass of 5ft 1" giving birth to a 4.3kg baby was "unusual". .

I'm getting a specific appointment with a consultant to discuss my first birth in detail, possible causes of the problems and the implications it may/may not have for this delivery.

I'll also be getting a couple of extra scans later on to keep an eye on the size of the baby as D-day approaches - "so we know what we're dealing with"!!

But on the upside she did say that with careful monitoring there's no reason to assume that the same will happen again. She said that I didn't have any of the "major" things (like pre-eclampsia or a low-birthweight baby) which means that consultant led-care (i.e. no birth centre or water pools) is a given, although I did have quite a few of the other 'factors' which means it needs thinking about a bit more carefully.

But she said they'd do everything they could to support my decisions about it, and commended my desire to try and go natural second time around. She said that birth experiences can be drastically different – especially between babies 1 and 2.

She said that because of my 3° tear I would be offered an elective caesarian as a matter of course if I wanted it. But I'm not at all keen to go down that route. I couldn't imagine such a long stay in hospital away from my DD, or being unable to pick her up/push a double buggy etc. for 6 weeks...

My mum would probably have to come and stay the whole 6 weeks . I love her dearly, but 6 weeks???

That said, if it came down to a choice between that and another induction, I'm not so sure. I don't think my body likes the prostaglandins... .

So, what with that and my bonus scan in 3 1/2 weeks (for nuchal screening) I'm actually feeling quite looked after, whic is nice. I thought I'd be even more ignored for number 2 than for number 1!

So despite the ANC at the Whit. looking a bit shabby, I'm actually feeling a bit sad that I probably won't be having this baby there... everyone without exception so far has been wonderful and I like their attitude.

Anyway, have written what is probably a very dull novel, so will sign off before I =send you all to sleep.

Sleeeeepppp... mmm... good idea!

Nighty night,
db
xx

p.s Scooby - glad your work is finally at least trying to help. Although "headache"!!!??? What the... !!?? I'd give her a bloody headache... . It's as if you're having this baby just to make her life hard (because it's all about her, evidently...) What a crappy attitude. [Fume] [Fume] on your behalf... I'm suddenly feeling very lucky in my job who have been nothing but suportive and pleased for me - even though it's a difficult time for them.

p.p.s. Arcadie "vulval varices"!? Bloody hell. . Veryworried - lets just hope it's just increased blood supply, eh?

p.p.p.s. Right, really going now... zzzz...

hi all
sorry just caught up on everything - this thread moves fast if you take your eye off it doesn't it!
Glad everyone ok and feeling similarly fat/windy/rubbish - i mean, CLEARLY i'd love you all to be feeling superdooper but the fact that it sounds like you feel v like me does make me feel a bit better
Anyway, dating scan tomorrow - am feeling v nervous about it so fingers crossed. All being well, I think they'll put me back a couple of weeks, so my guess...is for something like the 23rd March...not the 10th march. You heard it here first!

Ah fetal doppler arrived today, we only heard a glimpse of a fluttering heartbeat but that was enough for us xx

Can't wait for 12 week scan next week just to check all is ok.

Good luck everyone xx

Hi all. Its getting exciting now that scan dates are approaching. Ours is next wednesday.

Work has improved slightly - couldnt have got worse! I was told to turn up 10am Monday and see what happened. On arrival I was taken to the boss who preached a bit and then gave me a desk job to cover for someones leave for two weeks whilst she thinks about what to do with me. Ultimately its safe so cant complain. Also found out today another female of my level is pregnant - 6 weeks. Quite amused at the issues that will create next year when we are both off!!!!! That lady already is in a safe job so won't be a 'headache' for my boss as it was put about me. Shame!!!

xx

Veryworriedme The throbbing could well be vulval varices. (ie varicose veins in your fluffy bits) They're not dangerous but they do throb and there's not a lot you can do about them. Sorry. Maybe it's just a tight fitting pair of pants eh?! [brightside]

annamama as I understand it from my extensive reading and googling, all babies develop at a very similar rate up to a point (not sure what that is) but up to 12 weeks they should all be the same.

I too have a long cycle so on Thursday am ready to be told that 12 weeks might not be accurate. Saying that I had an early scan at 7 + 4 and was told, and I quote, "Yewah, that's about right..." by the vague but sexy Dr.

On the NCT side of things I have booked in as I am new to this and only plan on doing it once (DH is older but is his 1st too) so looking forward to making local friends. I'm sure there must be stuff i'll learn from it but will probably go to the NHS ones too although DH works hour and a half from home so if during the week unlikely he will be able to attend.

*Very excited about scan on Thursday*

Was just thinking of how much my 15-month-old DD has learnt in her short life. She just heard an airplane outside and started flapping her arms. And she can say "more strawberries!" Well not exactly like that but I know what she means! Anyway, my point is I think it will be a bit of a shock to have a newborn (if/when I finally get my hands on it!) They are so small and so helpless and they don't "do" much except eat, sleep & have their nappies changed... But it's all worth it for that first smile!

I don't understand how they can tell so exactly by a scan how many weeks you are. Surely some babies are bigger/smaller then others...? Or maybe not at that early stage. Anyway I guess it's better to be told you're earlier than you thought so hopefully you don't have to be induced!

Glad I am not the only one suffering with bad wind

MINICOOPER sounds like my gym. Really expensive to use creche. Never been brave enough with either of mine to use it anyway. I just go in the evening when I am not too sick.

Just reading all the messages about NCT. I did these classes with my 1st child. They were great for meeting people. I met my closest friend at these classes and our boys (born 18 hours apart) are the best of friends. The actual classes were useless and didn't teach me anything, but that could have just been my teacher. Loads of people in my area said the hospital classes were better. So definitely worth it if you want to meet people.

Hello everyone, ages since I posted, but have bben reading up on everyone's progress each night - by the time I've put dd down to sleep I've got about 10mins to mn before starting on dinner - by the time I've read everyone's posts there's no time to post myself!!!

Well, the first trimester is nearing an end, ladies - some of you are there already - I still have 2 long wks to go before my scan and it already feels like I've been pg for EVER!

Just went to have a look round a gym - haven't joined since I had dd and want to get back into my swimming to get everything back into some semblance of order ready for the marathon that labout is! Having children is soooooo expensive - on top of my gym membership it'd be another fiver to put dd in the creche for an hour. Hmmm - makes it an expensive swim!

Glad to hear everyone is doing so well with the symptoms - pg farts and all! My constant refrain is 'it wasn't me, it was the baby...!'

Hi all, still no posting much cause of the sickness. Had my scan yesterday but they say I am only 10 weeks, not 12. She said I probably had a long cycle. Feel a bit cheated cause I was hoping the sickness would be stopping but looks like there will be a couple more weeks of it. Hope everyone is getting on ok.

veryworriedme - bear in mind that many of us are second timers,so it's all a bit familiar... you should seen the threads I was posting a couple of years ago!

Perfectly natural to be panicky, it's all very strange and there's all sorts of weird sensations that come and go.

Just try and keepo thinking about all the massive changes going on inside to reassure yourself that some twinges are understandable but get reassurance from scans or midwives when you need it – it's partly what they're there for and they won't think you're silly or anything.

And we're always here...

FWIW it feels like my uterus is about to fall out today. Can't explain it any other way. Very odd. But I remember the sensation from last time so... hey ho...

<<<hug>>>

db
xx

Retromum - are you feeling better/managed a poo ?
I am finding this whole thing very difficult. Have had constant pains, twinges and cramps which i am trying to be calm about but now have a whole new pain for the last 2 days which is like a constant throbbing in my (TMI alert)vagina . I could try googling it but i think i might end up on dodgy websites! Anyway i cant stand not knowing and so have booked myself in tomorrow for another expensive scan. I am so impressed with how positive and calm everyone on this thread is being. I really am going to have to get a grip if i am to survive the next half a year or so

annamanna - Sorry to be insensitive but i'm glad i'm not alone with the poor sleeping. It's such a bloody pain! I have totally cut caffiene out of my diet and have a horlicks before bed, oh and we bought a thinner duvet so I don't get too hot, not much else I can do... Hope it settles down soon for both of us.

No 'mystique' left in my marriage at all, that dissapeared a long time ago! My dh is the kind of man who finds farts incredibly amusing though, good job!

Dalrymps - I also sleep badly... I have weird dreams and wake up frequently, often thirsty and/or needing the loo, then it's hard to go back to sleep. Try to go to bed early and read in bed until you feel sleepy... oh I want my bed now... zzz...

DB - on the subject of pregnancy farts etc, haha, yeah the mystique is gone from my marriage too but that's part of why I like it! Bad one tonight in front of TV, DH had to use cushion as gas mask.

Retro, hope you feel better! Go to GP and get your urine tested for infection to rule that out...

Hi ladies,

Retro, I was going to suggest something to do with your kidneys too as pot pouri said. I had pain like that when I had a really bad bout of cystitis, I think it had started to become a kidnet infection, paracetamol did help though as well as antibiotics. Might just be dehydration/constipation as pot pouri said. Try not to worry

Sorry I've fallen behind at the mo, i'm rubbish, have been so tired. I'm finding it really difficult to sleep, I go to bed tired and just lay there and toss and turn. If I do fall asleep I just wake a couple of hours later and have broken sleep till the morning

DB - Thrilled the scan went ok for you, must be a big relief

Got my scan on weds aft eek.

Mrs snow - The lady who guessed how far along you are is obviously cr*p at guessing! Take no notice, silly woman! I had the opposite problem last time, no one noticed I was pg as i was so small!

On the subject of the swine flu jab. I thought it sounded like a simple sollution when I first heard about it. However, since hearing about it not being tested on lo's etc I just can't bring myself to take that risk I don't think. I am asthmatic also so I really wish I could trust the vaccine as it would put my mind at rest but it just not that simple

itwascertainlyasurprise - Welcome . You sound like a very strong determined lady. I hope we can be a good support for you (and you us!) throughout your pg etc

Also welcome to easydoes it and sarahmikeharryandrosie and congratualtions


scooby - How's the work situation?

Hope everyone else is doing ok and those with sickness are starting to feel better.

Sorry I haven't replied to everyone, I'm just too far behind! Must try harder!

Retro. It sounds like dehydration. I get sore kidneys (sore back, comes in waves) when dehydrated. And of course that can cause constipation. I would recommend getting some prune juice, drink loads or it, and lots of over clear liquids - that should get it moving. I also found that the best thing for constipation is a teaspoon of linseeds over your breakfast cereal (get from Holland and Barratt). Much better than manky fibogel - yuk

On the swine flu jab - no way will I or my littlies be having it.

Hi All

I have a very embarrassing question to ask. I have been really uncomfortable for the last 24 hours and I am not sure whether it is because I am mcing or constipation! or trapped wind. I have never suffered from the second 2.

My lower back is incredibly painful especially to stand and it feels like the first stage of contractions that keep coming in waves when you feel you need to poo but it is the pressure of the babies head. Basically I can't poo when I try and I have had some wind but I am not sure whether this is laughable or something sinister.

I asked my mum who didn't think it would be contractions as she said the head wouldn't be big enough yet to feel this kind of pressure but she was unsure as well. I thought I'd ask if anyone else had suffered anything likes this or know what it might be before i take myself to A&E for them to tell me i'm constipated

I'm so sorry I am fully aware that this is TMI but I'd rather ask you rather than a loud of medical staff in hospital!!!.

Well, yes, veryworriedme... but just to reiterate, despite my glass-half-full attitude twards it (which is only really possible with almost 2 years of hindsight!) it actually really wasn't 'normal' at all, and in all probability 99% of labours will probably be better than mine was. Probably because 99% of people would have been smarter than me and accepted the CS on one of the many occassions it was offered.

See, I combine a glass-half-full attitude with a really stupid, and possibly reckless, level of stubborness... Will be working on that a bit over the next 6 months or so...

Annamamma - for got the mention the giant farts. After DH spent several hours mopping up meconium which was running down my legs, I think it's safe to say the mystique has pretty much gone from our marriage, (I don't think it's possible to get it back after something like that TBH) to the point when pregnancy mega-farts don't even really warrant a mention in the designerbaby household anymore...

db
xx

DB is right, try not to worry... but I hate that feeling too, when you feel a bad tummy ache coming on, thinking OH NO! Then if you're lucky you release a big fat pregnancy fart (oops too much info), and feel a lot better.

Ha! db, just saw your post at the top of the page about your 'normal' labour. puts my (probable)indigestion pains in perspective

thank you db - will try to stop worrying so much. it feels like an age until that 12 week scan!

Veryworriedme – 99% sure it is indigestion. I practically lived on Gaviscon (sweeties less pukey than liquid IMHO) first time around and it's just starting to kick in again now... loverly.

Delightfully it seems to be something which kicks in just as the MS starts to abate...

Try not to worry, easier said tha done I know, but you'll feel all sorts of nasty things over the next few months. Try remember that 99% of them are nothing but the by-product of your insides being rather drastically rearranged to accomodate the increasing needs of the other human who has taken up residence.

Oh, and because your body has ceased to give a stuff about you, or your comfort as it is much too busy looking after your baby... . Your body has defected, basically.

Reassuring hugs from over here. You'll get more confident as the weeks go on, promise.

db
xx

hmmm bbq was a lttle tricky. all friends asking whether any luck on TTC and i felt bad about remaining silent. also dh had a few too many and is now being very vocal about how hard it is for him because he wants to be excited but cannot be because i wont let him. i meanwhile am shattered and lying on the sofa with the far too frequent abdominal pains praying it is indigestion

*Mrs Snow* - I've been doing the same as you, reading up on the vaccine, the only evidence I found that's even marginally reassuring is that it's administered as an inactive virus and there's been no evidence of harm with other types of inactive viruses in pregnant women. Even still, it doesn't give me the confidence to take it. They need to be a lot more open with the trial results. Maintaining this cloak of secrecy only makes me feel more unsure about it.

IWCAS - try the sea sickness bands from Boots, it helps me a bit, but I'm also fed up of sicky sickness on a sicky stick

Dreading going to work tomorrow, I look MASSIVE

DB wow to your 1st birth, hope this one is loads easier

IWCAS I know what you mean about feeling sick, of feeling sick and tired. Generally I'm ok, and as yet have not thrown up but do feel very sea sick at times...like today. I've spent the whole day in bed all that sunshine and I'm stuck inside.

I've been reading more and more about the swine flu jab and have to say that on hearing that the trials are to be in Germany does not fill me with confidence. I feel that the distance between us and whoever is on the trials in Germany means that there won't even be a chance that if something goes wrong it would be leaked to the press (thinking like the trials which took place in Middlesex hospital). I don't feel confident in something that has not been tested on pregnant women (and which pregnant woman would take part in a drug test trial?) and the long terms effects seen on their babies.

On a funny note I did brave a pregnancy shop to buy some clothes. As I was paying the woman said ' let me guess how far along you are', reluctantly I said yes...Her guess was 5 months!!!!! I don't look that big, infact had lunch with a friend who is five months and look nothing like her.

Enjoy the sunshine

itwascertainlyasurprise - I know how you're feeling too! In fact I wrote "I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired" on Facebook the other day... cuz I felt sorry for myself, and to see if anyone (who doesn't know I'm pregnant) could work out the hint. One person wrote "for a good reason I hope?!" And that's just it, we have to remember we're not ill, it's not a permanent condition, and it is for a good reason! It shouldn't be too much longer.

Becky - lucky you to not feel sick anymore! My pregnancy book says "By the end of the first trimester your tummy may be starting to swell, but this is more likely to be due to mild bloating and sluggish bowels than to your growing baby." Hmm, ok, whatever...

Well, I feel in the weird limbo bit now. I have finally stopped feeling sick and can make meals without wretching (sorry TMI) but now I don't feel pg at all! I have got a bit of a bigger tummy but I think that is more due to lack of stomach muscles now and bad eating when I was feeling sick. Would like a proper Baby bump now so people don't just think I have let myself go!

itwascertainlyasurprise - i know how you are feeling. all i can say is thank god i skyplussed 15 episodes of gossip girl. about to have boozy bbq with friends (or rather becks non alcoholic larger in my case)to try and pull me out of this bloated grumpy waiting game

Hi

added me too!

Am sick and tired of being sick and tired, have spent two days lying on sofa being bloody miserable. All friends seem to have forgotten that I'm alone and miserable while they're recovering from hangovers and fun nights out. So much for promises of mucho girly lunches, cinema trips and walks! Not that I feel up to doing anything anyway...excuse me while in wallo in self pity...

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In terms of becoming a member of the thread - you just did - welcome .

In terms of being "on the list" ... copy and paste the list into the message box. Find where your Expected Due Date is and slot yourself right in. The #1 #2 numbers refer to what number this baby will be in your family. eg I'm due 17th of march & this baby will be my 3rd.

how do I add myself please?

hope you dont mind i have added myself in
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Carrie2010 7 March #1
BYM 8 March #2
CAFW 9th March #2
ilgb 9 March #2
Sariska 9 March #2
rebeccacad 9 March #1
wilkos 11 March #2
Lemonadegirl 11 March #2
Josie22 12 March #1
Swingsofglory 12 March #2
Iwonka 12 March #1
Scooby26 13 March #1
Vixie123 13 March #1
MrsSnow 13 March #1
Minicooper 14 March #2
slackrunner 14 March #2
Poppyjen 15 March #1
Annamama 15 March #2
Childofthe80s 16 March #1
mmtwgr 16 march #2
Scootergrrrl 17 March (??) #3
Arcadie 17 March #3
SleepWhenImDead 18 March #2
designerbaby 19 March #2
Kay1980 19 March #2
Luckysalem EDD 22 March #2
Veryworriedme 22 March #1
Rindercella EDD 27 March #2
Fleximum EDD 28 March #3

just a word about swine flu...people aren't getting too poorly at the mo but it is expected to peak and affect people much worse come october and through the winter. I'm 8 weeks and a school nurse so petrified of the vaccine (untested on pregnant ladies) but more scared of getting it late on (I'm also asthmatic). The vaccine will have been tested on kids soon so I will be giving it to my toddler to help protect everyone.

Yup me too. The fact that I KNOW which day I conceived and the scan is still saying a week later makes me think that my body just sits on the fertilised egg for a week before doing anything with it- thus guarenteeing a ridiculous length gestation.

That said, I'd probably have let labour naturally last time if it wasn't for the fact that Christmas was very rapidly approaching for my November baby....

Yeah, I'd settle for that Arcadie... which is why I'm so glad about having new dates... and wondering if that was maybe part of the problem last time...

db
xx

Absolutely right db. My plan is to manage to go into labour without requiring drugs this time. 0 for 2 on "going into labour naturally" so far. Not bothered if I get drugs once I'm IN labour mind....

Well the only way is up, right Arcadie?
Scooby that stat is encouraging... think will start to tell in the next week or so.

db
xx

DB

Really pleased that your scan went well. We had to tell really due to problems at work - that was also at 9 weeks. We had a scan the day before which seemed ok. Apparantly if you get a strong heartbeat at 8 weeks + miscarriage rate drops to less than 3%

Do whatever makes you feel comfortable.

x

DB at your previous birth! Kudos to you for ever conisdering going through it again! Hope this one is a healing experience...

Hey all... well phew. First scan over and done with, with minimal trauma... Little funny looking think with stubby bits where it's limbs should be...

However, turns out my cycle is even more wonky than I thought... EDD from last period was 26th February, but from today's scan they've adjusted to 19th March!! (will update list accordingly).

So beany is still teeny tiny and I'm quite relieved as a) it means I'm less likely to be induced (Imagine - from my dates they might have been inducing when I wasn't even really due for another week!) and I'm desperate to avoid that this time, and also, it gives us another few weeks to get settled in our new place before baby arrives.

However, it means another 3 whole weeks (!!) before I pass the magic 12 weeks, and now I'm thinking I'm a big lardy arse for being so fat already.

But more good news, as bub was too small for a nucal translucency test, I get another scan on the 10th September so I get to see beany again!! I expect I'll get all worried again though...

But having seen beany and because everything's looking good I'm considering coming out in the open so I can break out those elasticated waistbands... what do you all think... too soon?

Funny thing happened during the scan - the sonographer asked if it was my first pregnancy, I said no. Then she asked if my first delivery was 'normal' I said, "Um, well, sort of... I went 2 weeks overdue so I had to be induced, the labour took 51 hours, I was on an epidural for 18 hours, then DD passed meconium and had to be delivered by forceps and I ended up with an extended 3rd degree tear and cervical and vaginal lacerations..."

Sonographer replied - "What on earth do you think was 'normal' about that!!??"

Me, "Well I didn't end up having a C-secion...??" . Cue much laughing from sonographer and assistant...

Seems I like to look on the bright side - which is probably a good thing... .

Oh, and I won't be having the swine flu jab, I don't think. FIL is a GP in South Afica and his opinion is that it hasn't been tested enough to know about it's effects on babies in utero. And says whilst unlikely to be any risks (there are none known from other flu vaccines) better safe than sorry. I am also asthmatic (mildly) but think I will take my chances with the flu rather than risk the jab.

Scooby, your work sound RUBBISH! and for you. Hope thwy get it sorted. I'd be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and go in Monday though - it shows good faith on your part...

Anyway, amended list - I think it's the most recent but huge apologies if I've messed it up and missed anyone off...

Becky7000 15 February #4
Tigresswoods 1 March #1
DrSkid 1 Mar #3
Potpourri 1 March #4
onlyanauntie 1 March #1
369thegoosedrankwine 1 March #2
MissieMoosMummy 1 March #2
cyphercat EDD 2 March #2
Caitni EDD 2 March #1
Horsiemummy 2 March #2
Oscarsmumm 2 March #2
pureeandpearls 2 March #2
Pipsonhisway 2 March #1
Donttrythisathome EDD 3 March #1
Smac 4 March #2
BlueyDragon 4 March #2
TakeLovingChances 5 March #1
Dalrymps 5 March #2
Dophus 07March #3
Twofalls 7 March #2
Carrie2010 7 March #1
BYM 8 March #2
CAFW 9th March #2
ilgb 9 March #2
Sariska 9 March #2
rebeccacad 9 March #1
wilkos 11 March #2
Lemonadegirl 11 March #2
Josie22 12 March #1
Swingsofglory 12 March #2
Iwonka 12 March #1
Scooby26 13 March #1
Vixie123 13 March #1
MrsSnow 13 March #1
Minicooper 14 March #2
slackrunner 14 March #2
Poppyjen 15 March #1
Annamama 15 March #2
Childofthe80s 16 March #1
mmtwgr 16 march #2
Scootergrrrl 17 March (??) #3
Arcadie 17 March #3
SleepWhenImDead 18 March #2
designerbaby 19 March #2
Kay1980 19 March #2
Luckysalem EDD 22 March #2
Veryworriedme 22 March #1
Rindercella EDD 27 March #2
Fleximum EDD 28 March #3

Hugs,
db
xx

Hi all,

I have asthma and normally have the flu jab. I have discussed swine flu jab with DH and we are both of the same opinion that it simply has not been tested enough or on pregnant women for my liking and I won't allow me or my unborn child to be guineapigs. I think the risk of the jab is worse than the risk of swine flu - or at least it's the risk I'm gonna take!!

After all the promises from work yesterday I have had a call today from my boss. Upshot has been that his boss was off so no decision has been made. If I just turn up at 10am on Monday.......... More wait and sees. Having been due to start at work at 10pm Monday I have plans for daytime Monday. I don't want to be awkward butI can see me giving up my plans to turn up and either be left in the corner for the day or be told to go back to the job I walked out of on Monday and be no further forward.I'm tempted to stay off monday and see what gets arranged on Monday and go back Tuesday to a firm job???? I kinda of think if I dont go in they have to almost make a decision???

x

Josie

"Have visions of me lying there and the nurse saying "there's no baby and there never was, it must have been all in your head". This despite the constant ms, sore boobs, lack of periods etc.. It just doesn't feel real! "

I know EXACTLY what you mean - no scan til 20 weeks with DS so just spend the whole time convinced that it was all in my head. It got so bad that at 15 weeks (after all ms had subsided but before bump) I jumped on a girl I barely knew who is a midwife and dragged her to the nearest bed, pulled up my top and ORDERED her to feel my tummy and tell me whether it felt like a pregnant ladies. Thankfully she loved her job, was only too pleased to help and told me exactly what I wanted to hear. She's now the godmother of my second child!

You're not a nutter for thinking it - it's perfectly normal.. but keep telling yourself, "Positive test plus no period = baby 99.9% of the time" HTH

I'm trying to keep an open mind about the vaccine. I'd like to read as much as possible about it before I make my mind up. It sounds like there will be a few months yet before it's issued so more time to research and also understand the findings of the clinical trial. Although I appreciate that pregnant women weren't involved in the trial. I have a background in medical science so it interests me for different reasons too.

Didn't get to hear the heart beat at the scan so I've rented a doppler (£9 for a month).

xx

Pureeandpearls brilliant news I'm really pleased you finally got to the bottom of it and don't have long to wait.

About the swine flu jab I am also worried and won't be having it. I had a heated debate with DH yesterday about it where i said so me and my child are basically going to be the governments ginea pig. He told me it had been tested to which I responded so the unborn babies are now children are they so we know there are no long term side effects. That shut him up.

Also I have been outed today when I took DD to playgroup and suddenly felt very sick, ran to the toilet which is in the same room as the play session and when I came out everybody was smiling and laughing at me!!! So much for keeping that secret.

On a positive note i haven't been in the car today and haven't cried yet either!. Have a good afternoon

xxx

Flu vaccine has me very worried. My DD nursery has had several swine flu cases and I'm afraid I kept her away to protect the baby I'm carrying until I get to 12 weeks. But I'm still not sure I want any of us to have the vaccine. What to do?

On a happier note and after days of tears, frustration and mounting phone bills the arses at Harris Birthright have finally given me a nuchal scan date. Next Thursday. Can't wait

[waves to everyone as she heads off to find more food]

Scooby - I love the fact that your boss and the HR person came to you with their tail between their legs, they must have realised how you could throw the book at them, legally, and are trying to accomodate you now. Sounds like you're on the right track, hope you come to an agreement and can work throughout your pregnancy in safety.

MrsSnow - Have just read the news about the vaccine, I too feel like it's more risk to have the vaccine than have the flu... but I might need to read some more to come to a final decision.

Hello again

Josie I am shocked to hear that the company making swine flu vaccination will receive immunity from litigation! Thats awful. If anything that does nothing to quash my fears. I also have asthma and normally receive the flu jab. I've found by having the annual jab I don't get so ill and for so long. I think I might be willing to have a 'normal' flu jab and totally miss the swine flu jab.

I've got about another week in the top I'm wearing today. Even then it was a struggle to get it over my boobs so may go down to Clapham Junction to see if I can find anything in JoJo Maman or Blooming M.

Hope everyone is ok

Hello everyone,

Sariska and Arcadie, thanks for the info on scans. It made me feel a lot better knowing that my scan date is not so unusual. Can't WAIT to have it done though.

I started writing a post yesterday when everything went crazy.

To make a VERY long story short, my neighbor gave the wrong address when installing a new telephone line in her flat, which resulted in MY line was disconnected by mistake. I spent 5 miserable hours!!!! on my mobile with the phone company getting to the bottom of the whole thing, and it is still not resolved. Initially, they were asking me to pay for the re-installation, although it was not my fault and now I have to wait for 3 weeks to get my line back. The whole thing was soooo draining, I am still recovering...

Hopefully, today will be better. Planning on buying some clothes which I can actually fit into.

xoxo

Hello ladies...I just wanted to pop in and wish you all the best...I was on the Due March 2009 thread and now have a fabulous 5 month old son! Hope you all have great pregnancies and easy births!!

Morning all

Caitni - I am loving your blackberry story - sounds very much like something I would do (pg or not!).

Scooby - am so glad that your HR and boss did some grovelling. Was so at how they reacted. I hope it sorts itself out soon as it can't be fun having work mess you around at the moment.

MrsSnow - I am always offered the flu jab as have mild asthma but actually never take it as I don't like the idea of it. Will not be having the swine flu jab as it sounds a huge risk to be honest. I don't like the fact that the government have made the company who produces it exempt from being sued etc for any problems that the vaccine may cause either. It doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

Well still waiting for scan date but its likely to be after my holiday which is a shame as had wanted to make sure all was ok before I went. I wont believe it is actually happening until I see the scan. Have visions of me lying there and the nurse saying "there's no baby and there never was, it must have been all in your head". This despite the constant ms, sore boobs, lack of periods etc.. It just doesn't feel real!

Anyway, so glad its the weekend . Lie in tomorrow!!!! Yipeeeeeeeee

I also have reservations about the swine flu vaccine mrssnow. I think vaccinations are a great idea in principle, and I appreciate that we're all at greater risk because of the immune suppression that's a normal part of pregnant and that swine flu could cause something like premature birth...but..but...I'm not sure if I want me and my unborn child to be a guinea pig for the wider population. Am hoping there's more information/research available before we have to make up our minds!

Hi girls, sorry been awol for a while!

Have v bad pg brain here. Cannot think of normal words to finish sentences, or string coherent thoughts together. Unfortunately, I work in a v academic, sciencey place and so my lack of big appropriate words is becoming very obvious! There are only so many times you can use "thingy" to describe something!

Scan in 2 weeks- so excited!

I'm a nurse and so get offered the normal flu vaccine every year, which I have never had when I've been pregnant. I did get normal flu just after the birth of DC3 in December. It did really knock me for six ( I had never experienced flu before and had no idea it was so bad). But I am a reasonably healthy person and with a couple of weeks bedrest and DH being brilliant and having the other DCs I got over it and managed to do minimal newborn care, ie, feed and nappies.

I know swine flu is not the same as normal flu but I am unsure of having a vaccine when even if I got it I am probably healthy enough to fight back.

Not very helpful, sorry. Just typing my thoughts out loud!

MrsSnow - I agree with you, there is something very iffy about the swine flu vaccination. And most people who get the swine flu don't even get that ill anyway! I will NOT have it while I'm pregnant and I will NOT let DD have it. DH can have it if he wants, he's a grown man and should be ok, can look after the rest of us if we get ill...

Hey Everyone,
Just a quick one today. What does everyone think of the swine flu vacination? I have to admit I'm petrified of it. DH and I have been trying for years and to suddenly get pregnant naturally is amazing. I don't want anything to go wrong. I'm really scared that they haven't tested it enough etc. The government is already admitting that they haven't tested the vaccines on under 3s yet are saying babies should have them. Any thoughts???

Thanks designerbaby - that makes me feel much better

I am so looking forward to having a proper bump I should just enjoy the fact that it's happening sooner than expected

On the subject on maternity togs: I am currently wearing Isabella Oliver maternity leggings - absolutely blissfully comfortable and not too baggy round the middle even though there's clearly room for growth I know that the IO stuff is pricey, but I bought a few things in their sale and they are gorgeous and even look good now with a small bump. I can highly recommend.

I've not worn leggings since the early 90s, but I fear I may be a convert...as long as I wear something sufficiently long and floaty to cover up my not-as-toned-as it-was-in-the-early-90s behind!

Oh, and bugger the books.

'tis my new mantra. .

Poppy, I'm also 5ft 1 - whilst not quite as slim as you even before DD!

However, I looked ENORMOUS with DD from very early on – looked about ready to pop at 6 months. I repeatedly asked the midwife if I was carrying a moster baby, but she repeatedly said no, it's just you're petite and the baby is a normal size so the only way for it to go is out.

DD did turn out to be a bit of a whopper but I think that had more to do with going 2 weeks overdue than anything.

I already look about 5 months gone with this one, but as stomach had never really recovered from DD I guessed it would probably be worse than last time... muscles have realised that resistance is useless and have thrown in the towel early!

So I'd say nothing to worry about - just nowhere else for your bub to go. And although the bean is only small, you still ahve a water-filled balloon, basically, in your uterus, pushing everything else out of the way.

As for accepting it - well, there's not a lot else you can do, is there?

Now is NOT the time for a crash diet... and it wouldn't make any difference anyway!

db
xx

Hello everyone, sorry I've not been very vocal recently....

Just wanted to say that I too have succumbed to the maternity trousers....surely that's just not normal? I am 9+3 weeks (by LMP date, so actually probably a bit less) and even though I still fit into my normal clothes, especially with my work clothes there is a definite bump. Also - can't do the button up on my "fat jeans" - arghh....

Thought I would have at least another 3 or 4 weeks before this happened!

I was wondering, has anyone else noticed a bump this early on? I am only 5'1 and still only 8st2 but now have a definite roundness - if you are petite do you normally show earlier? Sorry to sound panicky, I just feel a bit strange. It's like I don't want to confidently parade my pregnant tum around because all of the books say it's far too early for it to be a bump - feel a bit in limbo.

Also, someone came up to me at work today and said "so, you won't be able to keep THAT a secret for much longer will you" glancing knowingly at my middle. Hrumpf.

Shall I just accept the bump, bloat, baby or whatever?

Any words of advice much appreciated

Thank you for listening to my rant

PJ x

Scooby VBAC is Vaginal Birth After Caesarian Section.

Very pleased to hear that work have stopped being quite such muppets.

What did I say about no preg brain yet - apologies for such appalling spelling above!!

Hi all,

Cheering me up to readyour preg brain stories - have to say I havent had any yet. What is a VBAC? or do I not want to know!!!

I too an now under consuktatnt due to an old back injury and bene given an appointment for end of October!

Work are slowly but surely snivelling back. I'll have to try walking out again! Had a home visit today from my boss and HR woman who were rather sheepish and promised the world. Gone away to see if they can now deliver their promises - lets wait and see!! I work in an organisation that employs 4000 you wouldn't think it would be that hard to accomodate a few little pregnant women out of that many would you (and vastly most are men!!) See what tomorrow brings. I'm not going back next week unless something materialises tomorrow.

Glad to hear everyone is starting t get excited about scans. Im 10 weeks tomorrow so you early bods must be about to hit 12 weeks safely - Congrats for this coming week!!

mumbot, I'm under consultant care too as I had a c-section (DS was breech) last time. I'm not fully sure what that means either, but I think you have at least one appointment with a consultant rather than just being seen by your GP/midwife throughout your pregnancy. I think I get an extra scan in the last trimester to check if this baby is breech too. While we're on the subject, is anyone else going for a VBAC this time round?

Have read some of the pregbrain stories to DH to prove that it's not just me who's a weiner when expecting. He shook his head and said - "You get expensive when you're pregnant. Don't you remember putting your mobile through the wash last time?"

Ahhh now you come to mention it....

Just been for booking in appointment, having to opt for consultant led care what with me having a whopper the 1st time around. Not sure I completely understand what that involves yet.

Preg brain - asked dh if he was hoovering just as he was plugging the hoover in - duh

Big welcome to all the newbies - it's lovely to see more and more women joining us

Loving the pregnancy brain stories - retro what a good samaritan! Last night on the phone to my husband I was ranting about how I'd lost my blackberry as it wasn't in my handbag or lying around anyway...it took me ages to realise I was, er, actually talking to him on my blackberry at the time, hence its "disappearance"

DB good luck for your scan tomorrow - hoping it's a much calmer experience than last time

Retromum - got teary just reading about your lovely man today

preg brain - left the gas flame on the hob overnight two nights this week...and I swear I was checking religiously after the first time...

Excellent preg brain stories. Keep em coming.

Afternoon All

Well I've had a dreadful day so far.

Sickness is in full swing and DD gets upset if I shut the bathroom door on her so I had to leave it open this AM, she decided to wander in whilst i was being sick and told me "oh dear mummy yuck yuck" I was thrilled to say the least then she carried on to tell me to stop it mummy! If only it were that easy.

I then decided to go to Battersea for maternity clothes as I couldn't face it in the end yesterday and they have a jojo maman bebe maternity shop there as well as a baby one.

Well I didn't have any money on me and there was only parking bays. 45 minutes of driving round all the side streets and getting lost and frustrated and then I ended up in a one way street the wrong way without realising. A rubbish lorry tried to tell me with handsignals before getting out and telling me this and that there was currently a policeman behind me watching!. So I decided to try and breath and ask if he knew anywhere I could park for free but instead I burst into tears, cue him getting the policeman who tried to calm me down and DD and then very nicely offered to cycle in front of me to a free car park. Once we got there he then paid for a ticket for me for 2 hours as it was only free for 30 minutes.

Bless him he was the loveliest man and I tried to explain that I don't always cry about not being able to park the car .

Thanks for all the encouragement re BF, yeah it's gotta be easier this time around! DB I'm glad you wrote that you had no problems first time around (lucky you), we don't want the first timers here to be put off... sorry!

Went to park with friend + our DCs. I said "oh I think my belly is getting bigger already!" She said: "I didn't wanna say anything but yeah I've noticed." According to my pregnancy book the uterus is still supposed to be underneath the pubic bone and the baby is very very very small! How is it possible to have a bump already?

Arcadie, hope you find your bag! At least you didn't lose your child!

We have a narrow bridge near where I live with right of way from the other direction... A cyclist was coming towards me in the distance I thought, but suddenly he was right in front of me in the middle of the bridge. He was well pissed off as he had right of way and swore at me. I wanted to say "sorry pregnancy brain" but all I could do was sit there with a stupid face thinking "ehh what happened?".

hello ladies may i join you, my scan revealed that i was 11 weeks yesterday to my due date is 3rd march- (i thought it was 16 feb so will see if date moves again at 20 week scan,)

looking forward to getting to know you all, xxxx

Iwonka With DS my 1st scan was at 20 weeks. With DD it was at 14 weeks. I've only had scans so far with DC3 because of early bleeding. I know it seems a lifetime to wait until 13 weeks but it's very normal.

annamamma BFing 2nd child was IME about 2 billion times earsier than first time round. Less sore, less worried, less vomiting (so probably had latch better and therefore less wind) JUST so much easier.

DB Hope scan all good.

Scooby Miserable GP. You must be SO cross. Hope you stick to your guns and get result you need. Annoying work people.

So what's the most preg-brained thing of foolishness you've all done so far?

Today, I left the DCs change bag on the bus. Complete with lunch, totseat(expensive portable highchair dooberry) 2 cups/bottles and at least 1 WASHABLE nappy (don't care about losing 3 pampers - but the washables are pricey). I am a muppet. Stood at busstop for an hour flagging down the number 6 bus every 10 minutes but to no avail... vanished. Hoping it turns up at the depot tonight. SUCH A PREG BRAIN.....

Hi all, not been on for ages. I'm really suffering with the MS. Also, been on holiday last week too (which was really nice).

I've scanned the messages as best I can, so here goes

Welcome all the newbies
Retromum,Arcadie,Poppyjen,Shyla good news about your scans!
chubby,cheepz,Marmite,MumofAdela,Meita - so for you. Best of luck for the future and big hugs coming from me. Meita, beautiful post. You should write some of it down in a memory book.
Designerbaby - how is your bronchitis/cough? I have had a coough for weeks now. Thought it might be hartburn related as really hacking. I'm getting really worried about my pelvic floor the longer it is going on TMI - sorry
Dophus - did your scan show one or 2 babies in there? I am worried about twins too as I have a big bump too and am sooo much sicker than I was last 3 times. Think I might just faint if it is twins - no scan til next Friday though, when I will be 14 weeks exactly!
Scooby - work situation is a nightmare. Try seeing another doctor for a sick note?? And Saviska's post on page 30 is exactly correct.
Becky - LOL at your point about eating chocolate without having to hide behind the fridge. My cheeky little things now smell it and ask about it (or smack their lips in the case of my DS (age 15 months), so I need to be extra careful!
Annamama - LOL at maternity wear discussion.
Surprise - Good for you - much respect. Strong girl. I second NCT for friends (don't worry too much about some of the 'advice') and try teh local meet ups on mumsnet. It's all about having a support network to bounce ideas off of.

Have still not told work. I don't work near my boss so not seen her for weeks. Seeing her next week when I do a big presentation, adn I am stressing already about how I will hide it. I ran a marathon less than 3 months ago so had a flat as a pancake stomache. Now it is sticking out as far as my (much bigger than normal) boobs!

Got my scan next Friday, so once that is all ok I guess I will just tell her after that. Gonna have to do it some time. It's weird, I find it quite embarassing to tell people - no idea why.

Anyone else have terrible terrible skin? I look like a teenager - so frustrating!

Oh, and Iwonka, I meant to add that IME getting an earlier scan where it's not medically dictated e.g. because of bleeding is normally down to the efficiency and workload of the hospital concerned. (Always assuming that your GP/midwife faxed your details through promptly.)

Good luck for your scan tomorrow, DB. Mine is not for another 2 weeks.... Iwonka, dating scans are normally carried out anywhere between 11 and almost 14 weeks so 13 weeks isn't unusual (even if knowing that doesn't make the waiting easier). It's also within the period of time during which the nuchal fold test can be carried out should you wish.

Re NCT, has anyone done NCT refresher classes? Or is anyone thinking of taking them? I'm thinking about it, mostly because since having DS we've moved and I don't really know anyone with young children yet (and work doesn't make it easy to go along to toddler groups etc).

Am off to Pizza Express for a work lunch tomorrow. Rather dreading it as can't find anything on the menu that a vegetarian who currently hates veggies, garlic and basil can eat. Will it look odd if I stick to coca cola and dough balls without the garlic butter???

Annamama- I too had mastitis and cracked nipples with DC1. I found BFing so painful at first I would dread him waking up but with DC2 and DC3 it was totally different. Only very mild discomfort at first, which soon went. Hope this helps!

Hello everyone!

Haven't been here in a few days, and now so many new posts to catch up on...

It's really sucks that some of you are having problems with your partners, bosses etc. I really sympathize, pregnancy is already a lot to deal with as it is. Hope it all works out for you.

I've been reading a great book "what to expect when you're expecting". Lots of very useful information, which is great, as I will be a first time mom.

I am wondering about the scan thing. Mine is only on Sept 1, and at that time I will be 13 weeks. Is that normal? I've been reading that some of you have had your scans already...did you have to push to have an earlier scan of did the GP suggest it? I can't wait to have mine, so anxious!

I've noticed myself getting hungrier and hungrier, I literally can't leave the house without a HUGE snack in my bag. Always thinking about food. ALWAYS! It's almost paralyzing.

Those experiencing MS, hope it all gets better for you soon. I read that ginger is supposed to help.

All the best,

Annamama - obviously I've only got one DD, so can't give you any personal experience (and anyway didn't have any problems with BFing (luckily). But a friend from antenatal had a helluva time forst time round - littlerally couldn't wera clothes at home for the pain, and really almost gave up on a number of occassions. However, with number 2 she had no problems at all... no pain, no engorgement, no mastitis, no cracked nipples, nothing...

Hope it turns out to be the same for you.

IWCAS - maybe he's just getting over the shock and will surprise you further... Men are weird at the best of times IMHO.'Specially when it comes to babies.

Scan tomorrow. Bricking it...

!£$&**£!@&!!

db
xx

That's good news IWCAS! Despite what's happening with your relationship this baby will still be his flesh and blood, and hopefully he'll be a good dad too! If he wants to come to the scan he is definitely curious which must be a good sign!

sighs My nausea seems to be getting slightly worse, however today I've been ignoring my own advice to eat little and often... will raid fridge in a minute.

Question for those who have had 2+ children and who BF'd: Was it easier the second time?? (I'm hoping so!) I found it very difficult in the beginning, had all the bad stuff - baby not putting on weight, not latching on properly, horribly cracked nipples, mastitis, not knowing how often or how long to feed, etc etc. But after about 6 weeks we finally got the hang of it and I ended up BFing for 7 1/2 months!

Thanks all

Heard lots of good things about NCT so will try and book this week.

Fingers crossed that ex is coming round in very small babysteps...he has decided that he does want to come to scan and promised not to say anything hurtful on the day, a possible spark of maturity?

Scooby, so sorry about your work probs, am barely coping in a desk job so really feel for your extra stress. Don't be bullied, know your rights xx

hello all.

had booking appt with mw today. she gave me a scan date of 4th sept. i will be 11 wks.
really debating about wether to go for a scan this week tho. i have had 2 mmc in the past, the 1st not picked up until 11 wks.
still have strong symptoms so fingers crossed.

glad to hear everyone is doing well, apart from the sickness, sore boobs, expanding waist lines etc!

Mummy||||||Elk?>~_ sounds like you scored!

Scooby- nightmare. Can't offer advice but do offer sympathy.

Retromum- the saga continues. Dr faxed Birthright. Birthright told me they didn't have it. Called Dr who faxed again. Birthright told me they have it but don't take appt over the phone. They will send a letter which will take 5 working days. Off to look at private nuchals as backup.

Hi all
sort of been keeping a low profile but EDD 10th March, DC2, scan next weds so fingers crossed. With you all on the feeling rubbish bit but won't bore you with the details!! v excited and hope my bean's a sticker, too many people know now for it not to get extremely messy if things go awry....

just quickly to say
scooby not sure what you do for work but you should definitely not feel in danger at work, and DEFINITELY not feel unsupported. I can't advise really but just try to sleep on it and see how you feel at the end of the week, and if you think you need more advice, try looking here for ACAS guidelines? but huge sympathy.

SLiD i had my booking app yesterday, complete with bounty bag - not sure I got all that tat last time?!!? I thought I just got the yellow book. Anyway, I went through it and just kept out the vouchers i think might be useful? I' also a bfing, BLWing, semi-cloth nappy user but being slightly lazy realistic I have kept the newborn nappy voucher, if nothing else they'll keep DD happy, she's obsessed with changing the doll's nappy! also got sanatogen vitamin voucher, another bounty bag voucher and a book full of tat vouchers which I'll stick by the loo and read at leisure...

did anyone get anything REALLY interesting? I did a LOT of filing yesterday so perhaps it was just too much more paper on top of everything else!!

hope you all well

Hi all

long story but walked out of work having been told to carry on regardless of fact that my environment is clearly not safe and all other ladies prev in my position were removed. Seconds later was sharply elbowed full force in the stomach by a colleague. Obviously not on purpose but clearly not a safe environment for so many reasons - so I walked out in tears. Went to GP. Told the many tales and upset. Didnt go terribly well. Had hoped for a sick note for two weeks to get me to twelve weeks (never asked for a sick note before!)so that I can calmly and slowly challenge work from a distance without having to worry that the upset will harm my baby. Best I got was 'self certify for a week and speak to your union' Yeah tell me something I dont know but sadly these things tend to grind slowly and a week may not be long enough. GP also insinuated perhaps I was misinterpreting what I was being told and the emails I was sent- clearly thinks I am just being hormonal!! Thankfully the people who have seen the email and know the situation know otherwise. Thankfully DH also works for same employer - he is well aware they are wrong and fully supportive of me. Cried most of the day and it's not hormones - just sheer frustration!!!

Had a quick scan of other messages - welcome to IWCAS - good for you and welcome!! Glad to hear the rest of you are starting to get scan dates and all going well at the mo. Thanks for the words of advice from HR people- I was quite convinced but you start to question things!!

Good luck for a good week for the rest of you. xx

I would also recommend NCT classes- but look into them NOW - they book up very quickly and spaces are limited. Beforehand, I was the most skeptical person about friendship created through it but 7 out of 8 of our group still meet up fortnightly, it's been wonderful.

Also good luck and welcome to mumsnet IWCAS, that kind of fighting spirit will definitely put you in good stead for motherhood!

Had my booking appointment today. Has anyone got a bounty pack or lloyd's pregnancy gift pack? I normally hate this kind of direct marketing towards mums and have never really used any 'baby products' (breastfed, BLWed, cloth nappied my first DS), I'm not sure whether it's of any use - can anyone tell me what you got in yours?!

Good luck IWCAS - I second the comments about ante natal classes, try to pick classes that run for a series of sessions rather than one big intense session, you make closer friends that way.

MrsSnow - I've been shopping on-line as I cant'bearsed am too busy to get to the shops, ebay is great for maternity bargains too

Bring on the fat pants

Scooby Finally got round to reading back on your posts. OH MY WORD - your Boss YOUR BOSS!!! [fume]

Hope GP was more than just sympathetic, but was sympathetic with a doctor's note.

IWCAS I would second DBs NCT advice. Even if you are a resolute anti-whale-song-give-me-the-epidural-at-6-months-pregnant type it's absolutely the friends you make there that are the really important part. How many people do you know who when asked "how did you guys and your kids get to be chums" would say - "we met when we were pregnant together"

So Arcadie - were you in the NCT then...?

urm nope but my friend was .....

Hey Everyone,
Gosh I haven't posted for a few days and there are SO many posts to catch up on. I've been ok the past couple of days, this morning I felt really crap though and spent all day lying on the sofa as that was the only way I felt as if I wasn't going to throw up.

I really am not in the mood for maternity shopping just yet. I went a few weeks ago for maternity bras. I found mothercare a bit too much to deal with. But then found Jojo Maman Bebe which was actually quite low key and the things looked a lot nicer. I just want to get past the scan and then maybe embrace maternity clothing. Until then my clothing options are fast running out! I have a total of about 4 tops I can wear. I almost feel as if I need to donate all my clothes to charity or something.

Welcome to all the newbies. IWCAS well done for sticking to your guns. It sounds like you will be a fantastic mum.

Big hugs to anyone who's journey has ended.

IWCAS - welcome heartily. You're clearly going to be an amazing mum with such determination... so, congratulations!

Especially in your situation (although actually to ALL forst time mums regardless of circumstances) can I recommend NCT antenatal classes? Not so much for the teaching, but for the friendships you'll make. My class has become like family, and we've really got each other through all the ups and down of motherhood.

If you don't have the support of your partner then this might be especially worthwhile... it's good to have people to talk to who aren't your mum sometimes! (Even if only to moan about your Mum's well-meaning meddling!).

All of you trying to keep a show-home whle trying to sell, I feel your pain (especially if you have a toddler in the house) and wish you a speedy sale. It's a right pain in the arse...

LOve to everyone else too - hope people are gradually stopping the puking!

db
xx

IWCAS Blimey lady - good on you for putting a brave face and and getting on with life. Hope we can be of help and support over the next few months.

Hi all

Am due in March and have scan next week, very very excited! This is my first pregnancy and whilst the circumstances are particularly crappy (on the pill, broke up with my partner four weeks before finding out, he has turned into someone I don't recognise with his demands for terminations and wishes for m/c...not to mention I work in politics and have spent two years preparing for a general election that I'm not going to take part in!)I know I'm meant to be a mom.

I'm 30 and live in birmingham, and am the first of my friends to have children so am delighted I've found mumsnet as it is quite lonely at the mo. Thank god for my mom!

Hope you're all doing well despite the overwhelming sickness, agonising boobs and complete exhaustion

Walked out of work at lunchtime-enroute 2 gp hopin shes sympathetic!

Thanks Annamamma - I think thats the solution. At the weekend I ate constantly and didn't even throw up once on Sunday but when I'm at work I definitely don't eat as much. Think will make some huge light healthy snacks tonight for tomorrow...if I can face getting in the kitchen that is. Also loving the 2nd breakfast idea!

Thanks for the tights tips - will try m and s on way home as I pass near one.

Mumbot - thanks for the shopping tips - I think I need training in all this - I had no idea that either of those shops sold maternity clothes so much to learn!

Josie M and S do have mat tights.

Oh no, poor Josie! Are you trying to eat little and often...? It does sort of help I think. Breakfast, 2nd breakfast, early lunch, snack, another snack, dinner, snack, etc...

Hi Josie22 - funnily enough I was thinking the same thing (about tights not throwing up at work - although I'm almost there)

Saw some on jojomamambebe as I was admiring their work wardrobe

http://www.jojomamanbebe.co.uk/search.php?action=search&super=0010BRN00001~0020BRN00003~ 0110CAT00029&branch=&wcategory=CAT00029&catdesc=Underwear&treecode=TRE00009&r=1

Bought some grey elasticated waist trousers for work from mothercare, feels like I can breathe again!

xxxxxx

Ughh just throw up at work which is just so horrible (share a loo with two male colleagues!). Roll on 12 weeks and the end (fingers squeezed tightly crossed) of ms.

On the maternity clothes front - think I need some maternity tights - the ones I have on today feel like they are cutting me in half (expanding belly rather than baby methinks). Does anyone know where I can get some - M and S maybe??

Hope everyone else is feeling ok.

Rebecca - that was our weekend! DH shifting durniture and toys into a friends garage and me painting anything that didn't move.

I barely recognise the place. It's amazing how quick it falls apart. We vowed not to let the new place slip or become cluttered. It was worth it though - it looks really nice at the moment.

Good luck.

One of the hardest decisions was which estage agent. We had four valuations that differed 150k between highest and lowest - wtf!

Of course we went with the highest but hoping that wasn't a bad decision.

Pureeandpearls I called my doctors this am who chased it for me and it turns out that it was lost in the post but i have been given the date which is the 7th sept. Apparently that has happened quite a lot recently due to the postal strikes. Hope this helps you.

Dophus - we're having ours valued next week so have a mega weekend on DIY to get it ready ahead of us! We've seen a place we want around the corner so fingers crossed we can sell ours in time. Good luck with the photos and the viewings!

Wecome newbies lovely to see were still growing!

Thanks Pureeandpearls, I think we should both definitely chase it as my friend who is due 2 weeks after me already has her nuchal scan date for Kings.

Right I'm off to call the doctors and to be sick! Followed by a trip into town to find some clothes that fit!.

by the way, I'm finding my bras very uncomfortable...I haven't stretched in that area so oh why oh why??

I feel better now...it's nice to have all of your support and that you all are getting tummy as well!! I swear the belly grows from morning till night. I'm going to H&M maternity to get some top!!

Evening ladies,

Not posted for a while as have been falling asleep on sofa as soon as DS has gone to bed so have been catching up on all the posts

Glad sickness is getting better for the majority

Scooby- I work in HR in RL, they have to keep your job open for you, if some reason that it is not then you should be offered a job on the same level and not a demotion. Some companies do not abide by this and take the chance that a fuss will not be made by the employee.

The company I work for are not best pleased that I am expecting. The MD has been saying in front of people, " he knows what I ahve been up to" As though I am supposed to laugh

Am bloating too and look quite pregnant after about lunchtime, clothes are getting tight and am going to have to start looking at maternity stuff too.

Welcome Cyphercat and Annamama

I'm wearing maternity trousers and my most baggy trackie bottoms. I have actually lost about 4/5 lbs through my limited morning sickness diet but seem to have gotten bigger round my tummy. Having said that it's not like a bump bigger, just seems like i'm bigger round that general area so that my jeans feel too tight and uncomfortable. I can't remember when my proper bump started to show last time but it was small and compact so hope it's the same this time cause I escaped with one stretch mark

LOL annamama!

Retro- after an hour on the phone with doctor's surgery, who asked about six times 'how many weeks pregnant are you?', they said they would investigate and call me back. Subsequently said they had faxed my details to Harris Birthright and gave me their number to call to make an appt, which I will do in the morning. Reading between the lines, I reckon they forgot aout me. Will keep you posted about scan-gate!!

Conversation over dinner with DH:

Me: Some women on that mumsnet thread are already in their maternity clothes, but I don't need that just yet!

DH: Do those shorts still fit ok then?

(I lift up shirt to reveal buddha-belly busting out over suddenly very tight looking shorts)

DH: Very nice... Are you sure about not needing the maternity clothes?

Designerbaby- I lost the weight very quickly with DC2 and DC3. I think you are right, you are so busy with the older kid(s)that you don't sit down much or snack etc. Whereas when DC1 was a baby it was wall to wall Jeremy Kyle and huge bars of chocolate that I could eat without having to hide behind the fridge door!

Hi all, I haven't been on here for so long cause I have been vomiting morning, noon and night. So I am trying to read back to find out what is happening to everyone. I will be 12 weeks on Monday and have my scan then as well. Got my SIL hen night at the weekend which will be great, having to watch everyone get more and more drunk while I sip on my coke. Oh well, at least I won't have the hangover the next day. I hope everyone is getting on ok and not feeling too unwell.

Welcome all the newbies! How exciting!

scooby I'm at your boss for you. Mine came out with some rather inappropriate comments, like "how long are you taking off?" Let me see, I'm 6 weeks pregnant, I DON'T KNOW YET! Anyway, having reacted rather poorly at the start she has now calmed down and even phoned me to see how the booking in appointment went today. Fortunately I'm desk based so my worst risk is sitting a bit wonky or cricking my neck during one of my sneaky toilet sleeps.

mumbot the midwife today had a crack at getting a heartbeat but said it was very early at 10 weeks. Bizarrely we couldn't hear a thing, but the doppler was picking up something doing 170ish bpm and it wasn't me! So I'll just have to wait until next Friday for the scan.

Midwife was lovely - homed straight in on the important things (possible PND last time and lack of support contributing to failure to bf) and didn't worry too much about the unimportant (DH confessing his 25-30 unit a week alcohol habit!). Well, it's unimportant in that he doesn't have a drink problem and doesn't endanger anyone else. It gives him a beer belly. Midwife also had a good feel and said she doesn't think there's twins, thank God! My mum is one of non-identical twins so there's quite a risk there.

Big sympathy for those with horrid morning sickness/aches and pains/gone off chocolate/horrid bosses. Looking forward to some more cheery scan news!

Welcome cyphercat and annamama... It's so exciting to to have some more new people - congratulation to you both!

Cypher - if it's any consolation I'm the size of a house.

I'm consoling myself by the fact that my friends who have more than 1 DC say that it's after number 2 that you really lose weight - you barely have time to eat whilst breatsfeeding your newborn and chasing after your toddler.

So maybe I won't take those size 10s to the charity shop just yet then...

Feeling a bit more human today - still coughing but not so wiped out and my hip is healing nicely...

Hows everyone else doing?

db
xx

Sorry you're feeling lousy cypher - cheer up - it'll be the piles next!

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...oops sorry slow brain at the moment. I don't want to be fat already........I feel fat and bloateddddddddddddddd

Tsk tsk tsk I think you mean:



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I'm a late joiner too! I didn't show last time until about 20 weeks, and I'm only about 11weeks and have a bump!! yikes.... hello everybody

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Hi! A late joiner here... I've been trying not to obsess about early pregnancy, so it didn't even occur to me to go on mumsnet until now. Well I was obsessing anyway I have to admit but I feel like I'm more getting used to the idea of just chilling and waiting now... Still early days.

I'm due 15 March according to own calculation taking into account slightly longer cycle. My LMP was really 5 June but since I know my cycle is at least 3 days longer than "normal", I told the midwife LMP was 8 June and that my cycle is normal. Thought that should be easier than keep explaining about longer cycle... clever me eh?

It's my second, have a DD 15 months.

Just spent HOURS reading all posts here. So sorry for those who had MC. It's been good in a way to read about sad events also so that you're prepared should it happen to you, and you know that other people have gone through it...

We've been extremely lucky with TTC, got pregnant 2 weeks after stopping the pill both times! Therefore I feel now that my luck can't possibly last and that something will go wrong. I'm on the older side (36) so am of course worrying about the nuchal/dating scan... Booked for 1 Sep.

I know it's been said before but if you don't get scan date, chase chase chase!

Seems like most people are feeling tired and nauseous, add me to the list... I feel so sorry for those of you that have to work, I did in my first pregnancy, had 2 hour commute (door to door) each way. We were selling our house to move closer to London, but sale kept falling through and I'm now a full time slummy mummy since about a month, as I decided enough was enough and quit work (for now).

Scooby, that's disgusting about your work, I'm thinking "sue their asses"! discrimination! and sell your story to a sunday paper!

I'm adding myself to the list...

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Daly - so with you on the insomnia. Last night I woke at 3.15 - I finally dozed off at 5.45, by then the boys were already stirring. DH took them out to leave me to doze but they really don't understand and kept coming in to show me things.

Really rstruggling today at work as I can hardly string a sentence together.

I was in maternity clothese abotu 3 weeks ago - I don't think ~I've got any bigger. Fortunately I'm unmistakenly pregnant. As Retro says - since the baby is only 20 mm - what's the rest of it (she says shoving another sweetie in her mouth).

Rebecca had the photos taken today so we're hoping that the first person throguh the door will love it and offer our ridiculously high asking price. Never know eh? How long has yours been on the market? Are you staying local? Is there much available in your area?

Awoke this morning to sound of DS singing Bob the Builder at 6am. Lovely.

Just a quick question, did anyone get to hear the heartbeat at their booking in appointment?

I know some midwives refuse to do it until 16 weeks, just wondered if anyone had managed it?

xx

Scooby - Once your employer has been notified in writing of your pregnancy it has an obligation to do all that is reasonable to remove or prevent exposure to any significant risk that has been found (risk(s) would generally be identified through an occupational risk assessment - have you had one/asked for one?). If a risk is found to exist, unless it can be avoided through other action, your employer must temporarily alter your working conditions or hours of work, if this is reasonable and would avoid the risk. If your employer cannot reasonably alter your working hours or conditions, it should try to find you suitable alternative employment and if it genuinely cannot do this, it has an obligation to suspend you on full pay. You might find it helpful to look at the Health and Safety Executive's guidance for pregnant women:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/mothers/index.htm As far as returning to the same job goes, you have thr right to return to the exact same position if you return during or at the end of your Ordinary Maternity Leave - currently 9 months. If you return during or after Additional Maternity Leave (the last 3 months of the 12 months you are allowed to take) the employer's duty is to find you a comparable (i.e. same status, pay & benefits) position. Generally, this is the same job but it is not necessarily so. Hope this is helpful.

No weight gain issues here, which brings its own concerns. Normal jeans slipping off so am starting to query whether there really is a growing baby in there. Can't remember when I started thickening round the middle last time but I'm sure I was at least having to breathe in to do up some pairs of trousers. Midwife at booking appt yesterday didn't seem to think it was an issue and I'm now desperate for the scan to confirm everything is OK.

Still really tired here too. And not helped by a toddler who thinks that anywhere between 4am and 5.30am is the ideal time to start the day. I am practically suicidal at that time in the morning. Just off to see if I can buy gro-anywhere blinds to add to the blackout blinds and blackout lined curtains we already have in his room. Grrrr.

Greetings!

I get my first proper scan tomorrow evening I am a mad mix of nerves and excitement. I will be 11 weeks on Thursday.

After the scan DH and I plan to tell everyone who doesn't already know.... so far we've told a few select people in RL.

My new main symptom is being soooooooo tired after doing very little work. Yesterday in work I went on a long walk with someone I work with. I have walked this dozens of times before with little effort. Yesterday, though I was sweating like mad and basically had to lie down on her living room floor after it. I was almost falling asleep driving home from work!

I'm glad to read that other women here are in their maternity clothes already. I don't have any maternity clothes yet (I'm not sure when to start shopping for them). I haven't put on much weight, most of my clothes still fit me fine. But I just feel a bit bloated all over. My tummy looks bloated, but even my face feels swollen, but I don't know if I look this way to other people. A few people have said that I'm looking well and have lost weight.... these are all people who don't know I'm pregnant. I'm thinking that they're just trying to be polite, rather than saying, TLC you look like a dog!

Hi All

Pureeandpearls I'm really glad to hear that as I am 9 weeks and was starting to worry about not having a nuchal scan date. We also get sent to Kings and I'm sure last time I had my date by now and my scan was at 12+3. I'll see what you get told today and then start chasing it myaself!.

I am also in maternity clothes my stomach is huge and I can't lie on my stomach at night which is really frustrating especially when the CRL measured yesterday at 20.3mm!. Whats the rest of my stomach so full of then?!. I didn't try mamas and papas last time, would you recommend them then? I had lots of topshop and I have just been looking at ASOS as they have a collection now.

Scooby I was discussing your work situation with my DH last night, can you tell I have an issue with this now! But I am sure there is a legal requirement that if it is feasable for the pregnant woman to perform her duties during the daytime rather than nights then this must be put in place. Even my old job recognised this so they fired me!.

Anyway I'm off secret shopping today with DD, lets hope she behaves!.

Hi all, sorry haven't posted for ages, been reading though...

Great news Arcadie and Retromum

DB - Fingers crossed for you that all goes smoothly with the house. Sorry you feel so rotten, hope you're ok after your fall. You really are in the wars atm...

My ms has been wearing off over the last week, am so relieved. Still getting occasional sickness/ingigestion/headache/trapped wind/random ailments.

The lastest seems to be insomnia . I sleep fine most of the night then wake a few hours before the alarma and just toss and tuen unable to get back to sleep . I then get annoyed at dh snoring and start nudging him to make it stop, poor soul...

Hope everyone is doing ok and starting to feel better.

Scan a week tomorrow, am excited but also nervous as i'm just scared they'll be something wrong, no reason to think so but i'll feel better when it's over (if all ok).

Gosh, lots of posting today and some really good news from Retromum and Arcadie

I am seeing my GP for the first time tomorrow and I am hoping that I am going to be able to persuade her to get me an early scan. Offically I think I am now 7+3, but my cycle is quite long and also my last AF was 2 wks late. Obviously because we were TTC I tested. I thought there was a really faint blue line on the first test, tested again a couple of days later & got a BFN. 'AF' came a few days later, but it was very light & not the usual. we shall see. I think it's just wishful thinking that I am actually much further ahead than I think I am!

At the weekend my nearly 2 year old DD kindly told MIL that Mummy has a baby in my tummy!! We were going to tell her that day anyway, but DD took the decision out of our hands!

I cannot believe that the bloody pregnancy hormones have put me off chocolate! A good friend brought me a huge piece of gorgeous chocolate cake from a very posh wedding where she works (it was about 8 inches high & filled with ganache, strawberries, cream, etc). I had to throw it away whilst holding my nose

good luck with that Fleximum. Currently finding Peartiser a good thing.

Rebeccacad- I was in maternity clothes at ten weeks last time too- you are clearly very lucky

SleepwhenImdead- I second Mamas and Papas. I bought a few bits there last time and they lasted really well, unlike Mothercare which were rubbish. And Vertbaudet.

I've finally found something I can drink that actually tastes nice. I'd gone off tea, water and juice but lemon Fanta is the best thing ever! I'm going to bulk buy a load tomorrow. Now I just have to find work clothes that fit.

I put away all my normal clothes today and gave in to the maternity clothes. They are so comfy. I will have to go and buy some more as these are a few I got at the carboot last weekend. I was daft enough to throw all mine out about a month before the BFP!

Had a pain low down, slightly to the left all day. Anyone else get these aches and pains? I can't remember whether it means I should be worried.

First day in maternity work trousers tomorrow - I couldn't even get a finger in-between the waistband and myself last week! Here's hoping they are not obviously maternity wear! BTW I found mamas and papas range much nicer than H&M, New Look and Red Herring (Debenhams)- more expensive, though The grey cords should see me right through til March though.

Dophus - with you on the house front. We're doing the same and it's a nightmare trying to look for a new place, get the old one ready to sell etc.

Hope your nausea is on its way out and will try not to miss mine for its reassurance purposes.

Caitni - thanks, that cheered me up. Delighted all well with yours and hoping that means the same for me as can't really afford a private scan this month (she says while checking her online balance quickly just in case!)

Not having too much of a wardrobe crisis yet - it's my first after all - but have a pot belly I can't suck in!

Hi all-

back from holiday and can TOTALLY sympathise with wardrobe crisis. Even though I took my larger clothes, by the time we got back none of them fit so made DH get all my maternity stuff down from the loft yesterday. I'd forgotten how comfy (though not attractive) it is!

Also having similar issues getting a scan- our PCT sends us to Kings for a nuchal, but have heard nothing and when I spoke with the durgery to chase it the woman told me 'it's far too early'. I am 11 weeks tomorrow and you can only get a nuchal up to a certain time (13 weeks) so pretty pissed off. Will be trying them again tomorrow.

[waves to everyone and dashes off to find more food]

Rebecca - your post give me reassurance that the end is in sight! I am 10 wks and possibly feel a little better on the nasusea front today. The tiredness is still debilitating though

Especially hard as we have spent the last 3 days intensively sorting the house out ready to put on the market next week.

If it's been this hard to sort out a littel - god knows what moving is going ot be like! Dreading the thought of maintaining a show home for the next few weeks/months.

Retromum,Arcadie and Caitni - congrats on your scan news!

And thanks to all that have confirmed that I'm not going mad and my employer has been a little rotten so far to say the least. You do start to wonder if you are being unreasonable!

Retromum and Arcadie hurrah for your good scans!! Really really happy to hear good news for you both

Rebecca I so understand your paranoia but it sounds like everything is fine. I also had a scan at 7 weeks and was reassured by it. But by 9 weeks my own symptoms of tiredness and nausea (very mild) lifted and I of course panicked. But after a private scan last Saturday (at 10+4) seeing all was well has made this pregnancy seem much more real. Hang on in there xx

Tigress and glad to hear you got your scan date too (finally!). Only a week to go

MrsSnow Wardrobe crisis sounds awful! I've got two skirts and a pair of jeans that are a size up from my normal one and they've been my lifeline (even if colleagues are probably wondering why I wear the same outfits over and over and over...). Starting to struggle on tops now but am going to try and hold off on buying maternity stuff until the shops have more than just t-shirts and vests in them.

DB that must have been so stressful with your DD. Thank god you're forewarned this time. The bronchitis sounds awful - have you tried inhaling olbus oil over a basin of steaming water? It's a pain when most medicines are off limits (I had friday off with a sore throat, which has developed into a horrible head cold, and am missing lemsip!) but the last time I had bronchitis the steaming basin of water helped a bit.

Cannot be bothered with work. Am finding it hard to breathe (snot monster here) and reckon people are wondering if I have the dreaded swine flu! Thank god I don't but just wish I could crawl under a duvet anyway

Congrats Arcadie, that's great news. You must be so happy and relieved x

When I had my first early scan I should have been 11 weeks by dates and measured 5.3! Looking forward to my dating scan with NHS.

I've also booked a private nuchal translucency scan for 12 weeks.

Hi everyone

I've been following but not posting for a while - really glad so many people are progressing well (scans are so exciting)!

Quick question as am being neurotic! Am now 10 weeks, had a scan at 7+1 which showed heartbeat and all well. Was feeling a bit naseous from about 5+5 weeks and just not keen on eating until early last week and since then been feeling much better.

Really occasional nausea a couple of times of the last few days but noticeably have been actually able to eat a proper meal. I still have large, veiny boons (they are slightly sore but no less than they've been since the beginning) and a bit knackered (not too bad, but it hasn't been throughout).

Just getting worried that the sickness shouldn't be easing up yet and that maybe somehting is wrong? I did tell midwife that had been feeling a bit better and she didn't say anything to suggest that was a problem, but since I had an early bleed am totally neurotic - especially as it's my first time.

Is this normal, should I be worried and ask for another scan or wait my 2 weeks out patiently.

Thanks!

Well people.... one scan later and I can report..... that I'll be sticking around here for a bit longer yet!!! One happy heartbeaty little arcadieling (formally known as Tapioca in our house)Thanks for bearing with me on the longest fortnight of my life. DB - they measured him/her at 7 weeks whereas by my dates I'm nearly 9. Ho hummmm.

HI all, I'm off work today as the bronchitis doesn't seemt o be abating and I'm coughing so hard I keep throwing up. Lovely.

To top it all off I managed to fall down the stairs this morning - luckily I landed on my (well padded) bum but have jarred myself quite badly, and sinec we have sisal flooring (which is a bit like a cheese grater in texture) I have taken all the skin off my left hip and elbow. No damage to the baby, but everything aches now. Bloody pregnancy clumnsiness. I did a similar thing last time.

So I confess I'm feeling a bit sorry for myself today!

Mrs Snow - I'm not that concerned about the birth itself (yet) - largely because I know from experience the rotten ones tend to qork out in the end - more the headache of transfering hospitals possibly under a month before my due date... Not only the prospect of giving birth in an unfamiliar place, but also the administrative nightmare I'm predicting it will cause. But Wimbledon to Archway really isn't sensible to contemplate.

Caitni - I also think it's pretty that the NHS don't take your cycle length into account - it actually may have been at the root of much of the trauma with DD - because they thought they were looking at a 13 week old, when actually (due to my cycle being REALLY long then) she was actually only 10 1/2 weeks. It CAN cause a lot of problems.

Scooby, I'm also really shocked at the attitude of your work. I'd have a really good swot up on their policies so you really know the score, ditto what Caitni said about the employment section on here, but it might also be worth a word with citizens advice if you really don't get anywhere...

Mrs Snow - I hate this bit of pregnancy, personally. You feel lousy but you can't tell anyone, you're eating all the time to stave off MS and people just think you're a bit of a greedy porker. I can't wait ot be able to tell people in a "See! I'm not FAT, I'm PREGNANT!!" kind of way. Especially to the two girls next to me who sit behind an invisible "wall of weightwatchers"... grrr...

That said, I was wearing an empire-line (i.e. under the bust) type blouse on the tube last week, and someone actually offered me their seat! I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing... I'm not THAT big surely? The seat was most welcome though... .

Mrs Snow - I'm also scraping the bottom of the laundry basket barrel for clothes and hoping that I can last out until the weather turns and I can buy warmer stuff which will last...

Hope everyone's bearing up. Bring on the blooming bliss of the second trimester.

I'm off to try and soothe my sore self with a bath.

db
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Hi all

Sorry I haven't posted in a while but i have been following it, well I had another scan today and saw a baby with arms and legs dancing around and a heart rate of 167 and I'm 9 weeks today so the doctor said there is only a 5% chance of miscarriage for me at this stage and only 3% for everyone who hasn't been bleeding, so that's reassuring for us all. I'm still going to wait until my 12 week scan to add myself to the list though.

Scooby I'm really sorry to hear about your work although I know from experience what it can be like. I also used to work in an all male enviroment and with DD I was sacked for being pregnant!!!. That's illegal I hear you cry as did I but they told me there was no job I could do safely in there company and they didn't want to have to get the extra insurance and off I was booted from 8 weeks pregnant!. I only told them that early as i had to have lots of scans with DD.

Also unfortunately I think Mrs Snow is right I think they have to keep a position open for you for a year but it doesn't have to be the same one. One of the girls from my NCT group is in the police force and she had to go back into a different division to the one she left.

I too seem to have bloated overnight. Last week someone I vaguely know came up to my and said OMG your pregnant to which I replied no just fat!.

OMG Scooby this is my worse nightmare, suddenly waking up to find that no clothes fit!

Panic over on the scan front, I called the Antenatal place myself this morning and was told they had "just" arranged the appointment and it is next week when I will actually be 12 weeks, hoorah! nothing like leaving it to the last minute, eh?

BTW, had booking in appointment at about 6 or 7 weeks so it is not like they only just heard of me! tut tut tut, when I am in charge of the universe etc.....

Hey Everyone

Scooby I'm so shocked at the attitudes of your bosses. I'm sure it is against EU regulations regarding pregnant women. Definitely something to look into. Yes being pregnant would change the nature of things at the moment, but when you come back you won't be pregnant so will still be able to do the same job. I've got to say though, some women don't make things easier for other women .

I had a total wardrobe crisis this morning, I could only fit into a handful of clothes most of which were dirty. I even got stuck in a few . My stomach has grown about 8cm in diameter!!!! I'm really not ready to announce this to the world but I am looking like an ice cream addict!

Just realised I didn't include myself on the list when I joined (doh!).

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Morning ladies

Scooby at your post - on so many levels! How can your line manager's boss be insisting you stay in your post, including nights, when the company policy is that it's not suitable for pregnant women? How can your other colleague sent such a bloody rude email? So much for you getting to share the happy news with people . I'm glad to hear you're ready for a fight! Not sure about your HR advisor's advice - I had thought they needed to keep your job open for up to a year, but I'm not sure if that means the same job or an equivalent job within the organisation (any HR experts on here who know?). May be worth posting in the employment section or the general pregnancy area to see what mumsnet experts say...and stay away from the swine flu patients!

Arcadie good luck for your scan - hoping you get a lovely view of babyarcadie

Tigresswoods woo hoo for 11 weeks! I'm 11 weeks tomorrow and every night I fall asleep thinking "another day closer to the second trimester"...I think it's odd that you don't have your booking app and scan details yet. I know you chased it last week but if I were you I'd chase it again, if necessary persuading your midwife to give you the hospital number directly so you can chase them up. Being "in the system" is slightly fobbing you off IMHO as by now you should really know...

MrsSnow I've not suddenly ballooned but my tummy is much bigger – cue much sucking in when I'm standing up! - and I think a bump is becoming more obvious when I catch site of myself in shop windows etc. I'm looking forward to having a proper bump though...and not just feeling like I look like I live on ice cream.

DB lucky you having a scan this Friday! I don't have mine until 2 weeks tomorrow when I'll be 13 weeks exactly...my booking in app is also in just under two weeks (on a Sunday, which is quite handy). How odd that you have your scan first - it also amazes me that they can't just take cycle lengths into account when calculating dates. I'm glad you know about the ins and outs of your own cycle, as I hate to think of how stressful it must be for women who don't know and worry their baby isn't developing properly. Especially after the stress you had with the scan for your DD around this time. ps I think the not thinking about it is the only best approach to the move - things will work out!

Hope everyone suffering from MS and all the other symptoms of early pregnancy are coping.

I’ve also updated the list as it still had Meita, who sadly had to leave us – hope anyone who hasn’t added themselves yet feels ready to add themselves soon

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Hi all
Had an eventful weekend at work. Having paid for an early scan last week to ensure all was right before my next night shifts next week we had decided to tell work this friday- thus leaving it as long as possible before nights to tell the world. Sadly my 'clients'who leave alot to be desired in the cleanliness/violence/niceness stakes have taken this weekend to also have swine flu. Thus I made the decision to tell work. My immediate boss was very nice and made the sensible decision to remove me from my post - which our work policy dictates. He was also more than agreeable to my request to no longer worker nights. Then the 'big boss' found out. SHE yes SHE has decided that my work environent is perfectly suitable for pregnant women up to and including the final month. Not only is this plainly stupid and dangerous it completely breaches all my employers policies that state otherwise. She also thinks nightshift is fine. Feel a battle coming on!! I then got an email from someone else who arranges our shifts addressed to me and others saying ' congratulations to vicky, but oh what a headache for the rest of us!!'

I feel so supported!! My HR advisor then decided to tell me that if I do get removed from my post (inevitable)it will be filled by someone else and on my return to work in a years time I will be posted elsewhere, not back to my current role. I'm sure thats not supposed to happen either!!!!

Hope you all get a better response whan you break your news. I keep trying to remind myself that I work in a very very male environment and perhaps this female boss and female HR advisor are a sudo males!!

Morning - sickness and tiredness coming in waves now. Can't wait for booking in appointment later this week when I'll be 10+1

Hope everyone else is OK x

Morning ladies,

Sorry for long time no post, been on holiday to my parents and wasn't expecting that they'd have broken their internet connection .

So I'm off to EPADS with my pot of wee to get my long awaited 2nd scan. Here's hoping.....

TigressWoods I'd go see my GP, an get him to chase it up. The nurse at my GP's 'forgot' to send through my referal to hospital to have a breast lump removed last year. I didn't chase it up for 2 months thinking I was in the system. At the very least he'll be able to refer you for an emergency scan.

Good to hear I'm not the only one with an overnight growth spurt though

Designerbaby I don't think you are alone in not wanting to think about the birth!

Hope everyone else is hanging in there if not ok

MrsSnow weird about the growth spurt but I feel the same! We went for a lovely chinese on Saturday night and I felt like I had a bit of a tummy on me following that. Thing is, it was still there all day yesterday. Now I am SURE that people can see it although probably I am the only one. Oh, and DH!

So I am 11 weeks today and due on 1/3/2010 so I am right at the front of our little group and yet I am still waiting for my 12 weeks scan letter.

Maybe it will come today?

(Before anyone suggests it, I did chase it up last week to just be told, "You're in the ssytem")

Caitni, I;ve got my 12 week scan on Friday and booking on the 18th so we'll have to compare notes! (my due date is aclculated taking my stupidly long cycle into account, but the GP/hospital doesn't so their scan date is based on last AF.

Bets are on for "oooh the baby is measuring a bit small for 12 weeks..." "well that's because it's only 11 weeks..." coversations that will ensue and hope it doesn't createas many problems as last time...

The Homerton was great last time, but getting there is a real pain from where we are.

Anyway, if all goes to plan I hpe to actually give birth at St. Georges in Wimbledon... no idea how that's going to work out... . It's another part of my life that I'm NOT thinking about too much for fear of going insane...

db
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Hello ladies,

I've added myself to the list. Hope everyone had a great weekend!

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Hey everyone,
Heres a strange one, has anyone had an overnight growth spurt???

I wore a top yesterday it fell straight down, this morning I put it on before breakfast and my stomach is protruding!!! I'm really shocked.

Hope everyone is ok, I had great day yesterday but feeling very sick today...

Evening ladies

I've not posted in ages - been busy and had some weekends away - but I'm sorry to see those who've had to leave us. Meita your lovely post brought tears to my eyes...but also lovely to see some more ladies joining us - welcome and congratulations on your BFPs

I also had a choice of 4 hospitals - Homerton, UCH, Whittington and Royal Free - and I didn't have a clue (only moved to North London in Jan!). DesignerBaby I've also chosen the Whit, so glad to see I'm in good company already . Was tempted by the Royal Free, as it's been tarted up quite a bit, but the Whit is our closest and a friend had a good experience there. Have my booking in app two weeks tomorrow so will see what it's like!

We actually had another scan today...for no reason other than my own piece of mind...And it was amazing! Baby has grown so much since our 7 week scan and measuring bang on for 10weeks+4days. Little arms and legs waving away and heart thrumping away. Incredible . Makes it feel a lot more real. Last night I also cooked the first meal in weeks that didn't repulse me so am hoping the nausea is easing off [fingers crossed]

Hope everyone else is having a great weekend

Becky - that's amazing - I was born and brought up in Catfield - which you probably don't know, but it's a tiny little village between Stalham and Potter Heigham – that's proper local! We're up there quite a bit ot visti my mum, and to get out of London...

I've been to the new N&N - very smart... quite different from the old one – I used to go to school just down the road from there.

Shyla, I am mostly coping by not thinking too much about what life is going to be like in a rented flat, a fairly sizeable build, work part time, look after DD and be pregnant at the same time... Really, NOT thinking about it... aaaaaarghh!!!!!

Trying to just look at the end game which will be 5 lovely bedrooms, a big kitchen/diner famly room and a separate lounge with NO TOYS IN IT. Oh and a 70ft garden where DD can run off all her excess energy... And doing it this way is the only way we'd ever be able to afford it.

Short term pain, long term gain. But if any of you notice any signs that I'm having a nervous breakdown, perhaps you'd let me know so I can check myself in somewhere nice and quiet and padded.

Shyla, I'm getting lots of bruises, but I think that's cause pregnancy makes me super clumsy.

Love to all - hope you're ok and m aking the most of the sun today!

db
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hello all. am quite jealous of those who get to chose their hospitals. i'm in south wales and have the choice of hospital or home. hospital was fine when i had dc's but the rooms are super small and i really love to roam around in labour. i think they are building a new birthing unit, but god knows if it will be finished by march. have been up there sooo many times this past year and it doesnt look like they have done a thing to it!

ms is quite ramdom at the moment. i seem to go from being so sick that i can hardly lift my head off the pillow, to have loads of energy and going on mad cleaning sprees!

glad everyone else seems ok.

designerbaby good luck with the house. don't know how you are managing that. i am all over the place trying to work out who will have what bedroom when this baby arrives. i have an 8yr old boy and a 5yr old girl, and a 3 bed house. one of them is goin to end up sharing with the baby.

also wanted to ask, is anyone else having a problem with bruising? i seem to be getting big black bruises from nowhere. i have asked my gp but he just advised to ask my consultant when i see him at the end of the month. just wondered if might be something to do with taking aspirin?

sorry for the long post!

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Designer- we are near wroxham. The other 3 were born at the N&N as will this on but there is a new N&N now, the old one is now flats. I work at the new hospital so I am biased but it's lovely and the staff are amazing!

Hello Ladies!

I guess I am quite late to join as I'm at 9 weeks already. Just found out about this site not long ago. It's so great to read about other people's experiences cause you learn so much.

I guess like most of you, I am also nervous until I reach 12 weeks. Thankfully I haven't been experiencing much of MS. I am mostly just tired and SUPER hungry. I feel like I could eat the fridge and everything inside it.

How do I add myself to the list? I am due March 12 and this will be my first.

childofthe80s I'm in north London too - just out of interest, would you mind saying which hospital you went for in the end? Last time I ended up at the Homerton in Hackney (long story), but this time have plumped for the Whittington as it's more convenient - have been there for other things but don't know much (anything!) about the antenatal/post natal/birth facilities...

Becky - I'm an original Norfolk girl! Grew up in the middle of the broads. Where are you? I was born at the N&N... but imagine things have changed a bit since then. Or are you James Paget-ing?

db
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I live in Norfolk and we don't get a choice of birth places beyond hospital or home. We are lucky though because our local hospital is a big teaching hospital and it was brilliant when I had DCs.

For people who are going out and don't want people to know they are not drinking, I discovered tonight (by accident) that red grape juice looks just like wine! I poured mine into a wine glass to try and kid myself whilst DH drank the real stuff!

good luck with the house db!

Yes, I live in London hence big choice of hospitals - tbh, only 3 of them were really realistic ones (other 3 in random outer north london suburbia) so fingers crossed I have gone with a good'un. It looks as though several of the ones in North London have been tarted up lately which is good news anyway. DH and I are both a bit scared of hospitals anyway so am trying to look on the bright side...

I'd post it you TLC, but I fear it may melt in transit.

Anyway, I'm hoping it's only a temporary abberation...

designerbaby I'll have that Flake if you don't want it!

I live in NI, it's quite small. I chose the hospital because a) it's closest to my home, b) because my DH used to work there. I'm a first timer, so no real idea about which maternity hospital is best, but I like the sound of my one from talking to friends and other people who've had a baby there.

I had a little visit to it at 8 weeks when DH scanned me on the sly..... he knows the staff there, and had rung in advance to tell them to expect us.

All seems good.

I get my 12 week scan next week (from mw) when I'll technically only be 10+6. I can't wait to get it!

HI all, sorry for miserable post yesterday - was feeling v. sorry for myself, and have no right to. Coughing a bit less today (I think) so hopefully the antibiotics are kicking in.

And we had some good news re: our property sale/purchase nigthmare - looks like our new buyers have had their mortgage approved and the valuation is ok, so we may have exchange on both next week.... unbelievable! Just got to get all the work done on the new place so we can move in before this baby arrives... well, maybe not all of it, but it would be quite nice to have a roof, some heating, possibly a couple of plug sockets that aren't wired for 2-pin plugs and, oh, I dunno, maybe a sink or something...

Only 2 downsides to report today - one is that I think I've pulled a muscle in my tummy from coughing, and, even worse than that - I've GONE OFF CHOCOLATE!? How the hell can that have happened? There's a flake in the fridge and I can't face it...

Still maybe it's a good thing - DD was 9lbs 8oz and I reckon at least 50% of that was pain au chocolat...

Oh, and don't panic too much about your hospital choice - you can change if you're not happy. Aftre our first choice of hospital wanted to terminate DD at 12 weeks we changed... it was relatively easy to do. So you're not necessarily stuck with your choice if you really decide you don't like it.

And yes, in London you do generally have the option of more than one hospital, due to the number of people crammed into a rtealtively small geographica area. But many of them are a bit grim and even the best ones are pretty over-stretched IMHO. It's not such a good deal really.

The first one we went to last time looked like something out of Iran in the 70s - both inside and out. There was no door between the waiting room and the scan room, just a half length curtain - which was great when you're having an internal... and it wasn't big enough to have a full length bed so your legs hung off the end. All in all in was a really TERRIFIC experience!

I feel massive already. Want to get the scan out of the way so I can start telling people and stop trying (and failing) to suck in my enormous tum.

Boobs are huge and hurt like all hell too. Must buy new bras, but am trying to hold out because I know from experience they're going to get a LOT bigger yet. Last time bought at 12 weeks because I didn't see HOW they could possibly get bigger - suffice to say they were redundant by 18 weeks...

db of the enormous norks and tum...
xx

On past experience, giving birth where you work usually gets you a side room and a lot of nervous doctors and midwives. My drips all got put in by the registrar as the midwife was too nervous and I got a consultant to see me in labour and as my anaesthetist for my section as the usual junior doctor had trained with my husband. I'm going to make sure they are aware that I work there during my antenatal care this time as last time it got a bit embarassing for everyone having to explain every time that I was a little more informed than the average pregnant woman.

Hi Fleximum - yes I live in London and got a choice of four hospitals. In a way it's harder to choose as (being first timer) I don't have a clue what to look out for/ask about. I choose my top choice because it has a birth centre attached which I like the sound of but it was pretty much guess work. Will it be good for you knowing people who work there - would hope you get extra special treatment!!
Am also with you on the ms - sounds like you suffered badly previously. Fingers crossed it clears up soon for you.

Swings - am with you on the boobs - mine have hardly changed size which I had been hoping they would but they are so sore.

Very interesting to hear how different things are in different parts of the country. Do all the people who seem to have a big choice of hospitals live in London? Here in the South West there isn't really any choice, perhaps because it's so spread out here.I keep meaning to ring up to book in with the midwife but I haven't got round to it yet. I should get a move on as to get a 12 week scan you have to not know your dates or pay for it! It's going to be a little strange as I'll deliver in the hospital I work in unless we have moved by then. Not a particularly nice unit but at least it is a tertiary referral centre so there should be someone around who has seen a baby before if anything goes wrong.
At the moment I'm just hoping this pregnancy is a little different to the first 2 and my MS (which has now kicked in with a vengance) settles before the end of the second trimester.
Hope everyone else is starting to feel a little better now.

Hi all,

Haven't been around for a while but have been intermittently following the thread. Very sorry for those who have had bad news and fingers crossed for next time for you.

Symptoms wise - I have good and bad days. No actual puking but some days do feel quite sick and behave a bit like picky toddler suddenly not wanting to eat whatever I have cooked/ordered. Suspect this is quite irritating for DH...I get stretchy pains too when I sneeze or yawn. Haven't put on any weight yet and in fact have lost a bit. Am not too worried about it as had a very overdoing-it month with lots of weddings and parties before we got pregnant so I think I'm just getting back to normal! Exercise wise I am doing swimming as I don't like getting too hot at the moment. It works for me although it is a bit boring.

I got my nhs card within a couple of weeks. No scan/appointment yet as I spent a little while dithering about where to go (they gave me a choice of 6...!) before inevitably plumping for the nearest. Going to look round at the weekend so hopefully I wont be put off!

Have a happy healthy weekend all.

I've updated the list with myself too.

VeryworriedMe - don't worry about the MW looking at you funny - mine looked at me funny when I asked if I was a bit past it at 34 last time round. She assured me that it was absolutely not an issue - I'm sure it's not that different at 37. I have a friend who had her first at 40 so you're not too old at all!

I am feeling a bit sad as my (small anyway) boobs haven't grown yet AT ALL. My regular bras are starting to dig in, so my chest size is expanding but when I tried to get a maternity bra i couldn't find one to fit as they have all got much bigger cup sizes. The nice woman in M&S advised me to come back in a week or two when I might have had a 'spurt'. Not literally I hope - could be embarrassing.

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Caitni EDD 2 March #1
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Oscarsmumm EDD 2 March #2
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Lemonadegirl EDD 11 March #2
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Vixie123 13 March #1
Minicooper 14 March #2
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Meita 15th March #1
Poppyjen 15th March #1
Childofthe80s 16 March #1
mmtwgr 16 march #2
Scootergrrrl 17 March (??) #3
Arcadie 17 March #3
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Kay1980 19 March #2
Luckysalem EDD 22 March #2
Veryworriedme 22 March #1
Rindercella EDD 27 March #2
Fleximum EDD 28 March #3

Hello all

Feeling a bit fed up today. Still have terribe all day sickness. Bad in mornings, worse in evenings. Still tired and going to bed at 9pm. Still waking up in the night to pee (around 2am and 5am too Tigresswood!). Still feel like boobs have been in a twenty round boxing fight. Ouch!

Really cross at doctors as phoned in my hospital choices 2 weeks ago. Called yesterday as thought I should have heard by now but apparently my doctor hadn't faxed them and to top it all off he's on holiday . So goodness knows when my scan will be. Had a bit of a cry to my sis about it (hormone related I hope) as am actually on holiday at 12 week point so was really hoping to get scan in before I go, that way, if it's bad then I can use holiday to work through it all rather than come back to the news. I may end up going private which would be so annoying as as not much money at the moment (holiday is visiting family in spain so not costing us more than flights really). Grrr so annoyed.

Hope everyone else is well.

Hi Everyone,
I got my scan date through pretty much straight away (2 weeks after I saw the nurse at the GP). My scan date is in the 12th week. I was quite worried as the nurse did mention it could be 15 weeks !!!

My midwife rang and booked me in for when I'm 11 weeks, seems I'm on my own until then. As this is number 1 its a bit scary as there is so much food we shouldn't be eating etc...

My maternity exemption also finally came through last week but now trying to get a refund on a pre paid prescription card so no doubt that will take ages.

SleepwhenI'mdead - yeah I've been putting on weight, I haven't been eating much as initially I found it really hard to eat breakfast or dinner, although I am eating now. My boobs have grown so am assuming that some weight but be there! I also put on about 6 inches on belly, which means I can't wear anything slightly higher. Low cut jeans are a god send. Any top too long and I look very pregnant and I don't want random people to know at the moment.

Hope everyone with ms starts to feel better soon. Big hugs to the people who've lost their bean.

Love

MrsSnow

Well girls, I did call my midwife who checked about my scandate only to be told in no uncertain terms by the helpful hospital people, "She's in the system"

Great. At least I know.

Have to sam MN is great for making you feel totally normal, I too am getting the weird pain if I cough or sneeze suddenly. Also have only told one friend about pregnancy and so haven't got a lot of people to talk to about aches and pains. love it on here! Now you all mention it, I am REALLY thirsty, especially when I wake up which is, 2pm and 5am generally.

One thing I have not got is the insesant need to visit the loo, I don't think I am going any more than usual and am quite pleased for it to stay that way.

Am a bit obsessed about reading how big the baby is now in all the books. Weirdly they all tell you slightly different sizes but I do love reading it all the same.

Can't believe am 10 and a half weeks, 12 weeks is just aound the corner

Rindercella - thanks you for that! it is difficult because all my friends have had their children and when i went for my scan and said it would be my first they looked at me in surprise as if i should really have got round to this earlier. "i was trying!" i wanted to say!
I am most annoyed that 5 weeks of not eating half a pound of brie and drinking my usual bottle of merlot a night has not resulted in the weight dropping off me. anyone got any ideas on how i can safely lose that flabby belly so it may be replace with a compact bump? sit ups are a no no apparantly and i can do anything that involves jumping up and down because my boobs feel like they might detach they are so heavy.

Has anyone else put on weight yet? I have put on half a stone in 4 weeks and I need to go into maternity trousers asap! I managed to hardly put anything on last pregnancy so I hope I can do it again this time. Perhaps it's a second-timer thing.

Updating the list with myself:

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Tigresswoods 1 March #1
DrSkid 1 Mar #3
Potpourri 1 March #4
onlyanauntie 1 March #1
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MissieMoosMummy 1 March #2
Caitni EDD 2 March #1
Horsiemummy EDD 2 March #2
Oscarsmumm EDD 2 March #2
pureeandpearls EDD 2 March #2
Donttrythisathome EDD 3 March #1
designerbaby EDD 3 March #2
Smac EDD 4 March #2
BlueyDragon EDD 4 March #2
TakeLovingChances EDD 5 March #1
Dalrymps EDD 5 March #2
Dophus EDD 07March #3
Twofalls EDD 7 March #2
Carrie2010 EDD 7 March #1
BYM EDD 8 March #2
CAFW EDD 9th March #2
ilgb EDD 9 March #2
Sariska 9 March #2
rebeccacad 9 March #1
wilkos EDD 11 March #2
Lemonadegirl EDD 11 March #2
Josie22 EDD 12 March #1
Scooby26 13 March #1
Vixie123 13 March #1
Minicooper 14 March #2
slackrunner 14th March #2
Meita 15th March #1
Poppyjen 15th March #1
Childofthe80s 16 March #1
mmtwgr 16 march #2
Scootergrrrl 17 March (??) #3
Arcadie 17 March #3
SleepWhenImDead 18 March #2
Kay1980 19 March #2
Luckysalem EDD 22 March #2
Veryworriedme 22 March #1
Rindercella EDD 27 March #2
Fleximum EDD 28 March #3

shyla, good news on the scan! And the metallic taste thing is not unusual - it was how I knew I was pg both times, although for me it's gone away now. I sympathise on the eating front, too, as I'm troughing for England here!

tigresswoods the only reason we were looking at hospitals now is because where we are your booking in takes place at the hospital where you want to give birth. I wouldn't go anywhere near our "local" hospital i.e. the one the community midwives and GP are attached to as a) it's further away than the other two "out of area" options and b) when we looked round it last time it was filthy. So we just went to check out that there weren't festoons of cobwebs hanging from the ceiling at this place. I should add that it's only the maternity unit I won't go near at the local hospital and their paediatric A&E is marvellous!

Can't wait for the 12 week scan as my symptoms are coming in waves rather than being constant, so I just want to know everything's OK. And I want to know if there's more than one in there - it can't be right to have a bump NOW!

veryworriedme I was 37 when I had DD and I am now 39, so you're not so very old (or maybe I am actually really, really old and just not feel it!)

shyla brilliant news about the scan. Am really pleased for you.

thanks veryworriedme still a little shocked at seeing the lo on the scan

just hoping this bleeding/spotting rubbish stops soon. i wont might finally relax a bit then!

still keeping off the list. i will add myself if i ever get past 9 weeks.

does anyone else has this constant horrid metal taste in their mouth? its driving me nuts!! cant enjoy any food.

oh, and joy of joys the only food that can settle my stomache at the mo? mince beef and onion pies. i am going to be massive. have has 4 in the last 2 days

hope everyone else is enjoying thing abit more than me, lol.
xx

old, childless and dim

think i might have just worked out what the #2 and #3's are all about! looks like i am the only beginner!

I have added myself to what I think is the most up to date list. Wasnt sure what the protocol was on adding others... Had a scan yesterday at the same time as my first scan when I miscarried (7 weeks 2 days)and this time it was a whole huge 4 mm bigger than last time so that was good.However i am now worrying about the fact that the constant pain in my abdomen has gone (previously i was worrying about it being there)and that not as tired as before. Is there anyone else who is as ancient as me(37) and going through this for the first time?

Shyla - really glad to hear your news!

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Arcadie 17 March #3
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Daly sounds like stretching pain to me. Mines when I cough sneeze etc.

I have had an ectpic the pain was intense (i.e. screaming); intermittent but hours rather thatn on movement. The area was extremely tender and very low down. I must have been about 8-10 weeks.

I was quite a mess

Thanks designerbaby and sorry to hear you're unwell - that sucks esp with ms

I'm also very hot and thirsty - taking off layers, then putting them back on again - also if I have hot food it makes me feel like I'm having hot flushes! Not that I can eat much at the minute tho

Good luck for your scan - stay positive x

Mumbot, I got my scan date abd booking appointment through at the same time - and my booking appointment is 4 days AFTER my scan, weirdly.

If you've not heard anything I reckon there's no harm in calling up to chase. Things often fall through the cracks IME. No-one will be annoyed at you for it, I've generallt found the people manning the phones at the antenatal clinics (and I've used 3 different ones) to be very helpful and accommodating. And they're used to dealing with anxious pregnant women!

HTH

db
xx

Hi all, sorry not to have posted for a while, but was on holiday, and now have come down with bronchitis so feeling pretty rubbish, what with that, MS and total exhaustion.

So sorry to see that so many have had to leave the thread, it's just horrible, and quite sobering for the rest of us.

I haven't really wanted to post much, as, for some reason, I'm not feeling so confident about things. I think it has something to do with all the trauma surrounding our 12 week scan with DD. The prospect of having our scan on the 14th is filling me with dread rather than excitement - I'm convinced something will be wrong even though I've no reason to.

But hey, maybe I'm just ill and grumpy...

On the upside my wind problems seem to have abated, which makes me far more pleasant to be around!

My boobs are enormous and painful, which strangely, gives me comfort and confidence!? Aren't pregnant women perverse?

But goodness me, SOOOOOOOOO tired. Not helped by waking up coughing, and then having to go to the loo, get a drink, blah blah... I'd forgotten about the pregnancy nocturnal shenanigans.

Anyone else generally very hot and thirsty? I've just downed 2 pints of water and I'm still gasping.

Hi everyone - did you get your scan date when you went to your booking appointment with mw? Or did you have to book in at hosp? Guess it varies by area. x

Urgh. MS has fully kicked in now.

I always felt a bit out-of-sorts, but for the past few days I've been boking my ring up I'm always sick at night though! Only been sick once in the morning. Don't know what the craic is with that.

Feel sick now, but most likely my body will hold on till bedtime when I'll be bent over the toilet

The joys.

Actually I do think it's worth a phone call to check your scan date TigressWoods. I wouldn't worry about being 'one of those women' too much. I was actually told to call the antenatal clinic if I hadn't heard anything by now, so I did only to be told that they didn't have me on the system and that they'd never received the fax from my GP surgery which they needed...

Obviously I've spoken to the GP surgery who claim they did send the fax through etc but are now sending it again. So good job I checked really.

Welcome MrsSnow and SleepWhenImDead and congratulations on your BFP's

I meant to put that my scan is on 19th aug not the 10th! That would be early!

Sleepwhenimdead - Are you a bon jovi fan? Just wondered from your name...

Bellas - Great news

$th day of my ms being a little better, hope the trend carries on... Still a lot of foods I can't stomach but getting more of a break from the nausea and it's not quite as intense. 10 wks tomorrow, the past week has flown by!

I keep noticing that pain on the right now i've mentioned it, it hurts if I blow my nose whilst standing up today... You ladies think thats ok? I'm guessing if it was ectopic I would know by now anyway being this far along?

Hi blueydragon love your funny story about visiting the hospital and all the goings on. One question though, is it a bit early to be doing this?

Still waiting on scan letter and don't want to be one of those women who hassles the mw for a date, sure it will turn up....

Welcome sleepwhenimdead and great news - bellasyummymummy.

I too had early scan today. Saw the 'splodge' on the screen (really can't make out much more!) and confirmed spot on for 12th March. Heartbeat of 179 seemed strong and noisy when played by the sonographer! And much to my DH's relief there is only one in there!
Just 3 weeks to go!

hello ladies! just to say I'm still here though still being tentative about posting lots and getting too involved atm incase i have to leave, though lots of PMA so hopefully I wont be going anywhere! I had a scan today and baby measured 9+3 so a day ahead of my calculations, so really pleased but still unable to completely relax (what IS my problem???). Hope everyone is well, and think I will become an 'official' member after I've reached the landmark 12 weeks...! not too long to go thank goodness!!

Can I join you as well? Have namechanged as RL friends on MN don't know I'm pg yet! My edd is 18th. Was a bit of a surprise as was using Persona for contraception and there was about a week between the deed and ovulation! So this baby is quite a determined one already.

Feeling so nauseous - haven't been sick yet but it's becoming constant and not stopped by eating. I'm so tired - not helped by 19 MO DS waking in the night for hours and/or waking early - and I'm meaning 4am early. Argh.

Anyone else quite intimidated by having number 2? I shouldn't be already trying to work out how to do bath/bed with 2 by myself but it's hard not to anticipate these kind of issues!

Hi Ladies,
Do you mind if I join you? My expected due date is 13/03/2010.

I've got my first midwife appointment in about 3 weeks I don't know why I thought it would be sooner, and my scan booked for the 1st September.

So far I haven't been sick, just feeling queezy, and very exhausted.

Has it sunk into everyone yet?

morning all

Shyla - glad your scan went well.

Scooby - am at your midwife. What a stupid thing to say. Not everyone get ms. It doesn't mean anything. Just ignore her and be pleased that you aren't feeling sick.

Nothing much to report here. Still feel sick and throwing up. Yuck. Am hoping it will go soon. Tiredness is overwhelming, went to bed at 9.30pm yesterday and still felt utterly exhausted this morning. Have even started going to the park in my lunch hour to get 20 mins kip! Having the odd twinge - more wierd than painful though so am trying not to be alarmed. Haven't heard from hospital yet about scans etc. so think will phone to check it all out. Also, could someone let me know what a booking in appointment is please? Am newbie so have no idea what I am meant to be doing!

Hi ladies,

shyla01 - So glad the scan went ok and everything is fine

Had my booking in app on mon. Went fine, as we live in a small town the mw just looked in an appointment book and gave me my scan date and time there and then! 10th Aug at 2.30pm eek. I filled in the prescription exemption form at the app too so should get that through at some point. Although, the midwife did say I can start claiming free prescriptions straight away so those of you who haven't recieved it yet I would just tell the chemist you have one on the way and tick the relevant box...

Sickness has gotten a little better the past 3 days, still get really nauseous if i'm hungry but I can see light at the end of the tunnel.

Midwife weighed me too, have a bmi of 28 apparently which puts me in the 'overweight' category

hello all. just to let you know that i had the scan and everything was fine.

very happy today! very shocked, but happy.

thank you all for your kind messages anyway.

x

Had booking appt today.mwife asked how i woz feeling-on replying than im not 2 bad or feel sick much she made concerned noises as if me feelin ok but tired woz clearly a sign of all not being good.on checking that at least my boobs still ached-at least thats a gud sign -woz her reply! these reasuring comments from a 40 sumthing childless spinster! Ive felt sick since she left!

So sorry to hear of all those who've left already - fingers crossed for you all next time round.

On the positive side, it's good to see lots of new people.

Tired and tired and tired. Wake up feeling fine, shattered by 9 a.m. Eating constantly - I swear all my work colleagues have worked it out already as none of them took the mick when I spent a work drinks do on orange juice (believe me, this is unusual) - and then still feeling sick by the time I get home. I think the tiredness makes it worse. Which is why I'm going to bed now.

Went to look round the hospital we wanted to book in at. There were about 30 very pregnant mums plus their other halves milling around in the corridor outside the delivery suite whilst the woman who was showing us round went to see if it was OK for us to come in. As we waited a girl ( about 20 ish) clearly in advanced first stage labour came walking very slowly toward the delivery suite from the other direction. Poor thing, she was in tears and being confronted with 60 odd people, of whom at least half were now panicking looking at her in pain, was probably not helping. At which point our tour guide pops her head back out and cheerily says to us "You can come in now!". This was met with stunned silence until a little voice pipes up "I think this lady needs to get in there more than we do." Sighs of relief all round, not least from the poor girl in labour. Well, I thought it was quite funny but then I have a warped sense of humour.

MW appointment next Tuesday, scan the following Friday. It's all going so fast and yet so very slowly. Have a good week everyone!

Hi swingsofglory I have not had my 12 weeks scan letter yet (am 10weeks) but had my booking in really ewarly at 6 or 7 weeks. God my NHS card last week as a result of booking in app. REALLY want the 12 week scan date so can start planning when to tell family. They live quite far away and feel might be best to tell my Dad he will be a Grandad for the first time in person rather than over the phone. However, don't want to plan to go and see him until have had scan as would only have to make journey again.

Also feel like shouldn't tell ANYONE until have told him.

Hmmm - thanks for replies, I think I will chase both, it's only a couple of phone calls after all. I filled in a form at the booking appointment with the MW for the maternity exception card about three weeks ago, so I think I should have seen it by now. I just seem to remember it turning up quite quickly last time round...no such luck this time.

Swings of Glory - I had my booking in appt today. Mwife says scan date should be posted in around ten days and be for 12 weeks. (8.5 today) I have my exemption card - came through about a week after I posted it.

swingsofglory I got a letter from hospital where I plan to have baby (and where MW is based) about a week after I went to GP to register myself as preg. My scan is next week at 11 wks pg.

Also, I went to GP clinic and asked for one of those maternity exception cards things to fill in. I think it takes a few weeks to process, then is posted to your home.

T

Peace has been restored with the help of CBeebies! I don't have a dishwasher, but no washing machine or CBeebies- that's taking things too far! I would have hit the gin big time by now!

Hi all,

Just wondering - has anyone had their maternity exception card or their 12wk scan date through yet? Not a sniff of mine and I'm wondering whether I should chase them up.

shyla01, best of luck today. My fingers are crossed for you.

Becky, wow! I am seriously impressed. It'll be wonderful that they are so close in age and will be able to keep themselves entertained as years go on. My DH is the eldest of 5, with 5 years and 2 months between him and the youngest! I never know how his mother managed it - no washing machine, no dishwasher, no Ceebeebies! But she did and they are all really close & great friends.

He will be fine, maybe just a bit of jealousy at first but they soon adapt.

Must go, all hell has just broken loose!

Lovely that they are all so close. I'm worried about how DS2 will adapt - he's in the midst of the terrible 2s.

I think once you have done 1-2, 2-3 is relatively easy. My youngest is good and has learnt to wait for things! My eldest was only 3 in May amd DD is 2 in september so they entertain each other quite a lot (between fighting!). Thought I would use the summer usefully and potty train