MrsMc there's a new thread lauraloo's msg above yours has the link.

So sorry to hear DH isn't behaving well towards you. He may be stressed but shouldn't humiliate you in public, or fail to help with baby or around the house . Can you talk to him about why he's so down and encourage him to see a doc? Some men find getting used to a new baby more difficult than others - their OH's attention is elsewhere and sometimes they resent it. I hope it's just a phase...

As for your vet, do you think he's just raking in extra cash by keeping pusscat in for so many days? I'm glad you've found a more sympathetic one anyway.

....and that DS is calming down a bit . Maybe he should give his dad a few hints . Take care, and see you on the other thread soon xx

Hey ladies hope everyone is well. Still feeling very down about my pussy cat I hate that she is not here with us and knowing she is at the vet’s awaiting her sentence I have spoken to another vet now who totally understands where we are coming from so if the existing vet won’t agree to put her to sleep tomorrow, he will. I just don’t want her to be in pain from being moved poor DS still has his cough though my loving little boy is coming back slowly and the little monster is on the retreat. Aaliyah still has a stuffy nose and a little cough too I am keeping a very close eye on her.

Sorry this is all me me.. I am really getting worried about DH. I am beginning to wonder if he is depressed. He is behaving so strangely. How do spot the difference between being a bit fed up and being depressed? He isn’t enjoying paternity leave at all this time and is being so cold with us all he uses me bfeeding Aaliyah as an excuse for not really doing anything for her and when I had a friend over today (and a playdate for DS) DH shouted at me twice in front of her, it was really embarrassing.

Will try to catch up though Aaliyah wants attention

here we go new thread

Hope all is going well laura - Look forward to hearing your news xx

Sorry to hear about the sore nips llynnnn. I can totally sympathise - I was the same when BFing DS. DD is awake loads too, she sleeps all afternoon but is awake for a few hours in the night too (which is bloody annoying when I have to get up for DS).

All good here, though knackered!

Who's starting the new thread? I liked the name someone came up with earlier <too lazy to read back emoticon>

evening all

well aromatherapy was great! Thought i would have been kept in tho, having 2-3 contractions every 10 mins but told not to call back hospital until i have 4 contractions every 10 mins lasting 40secs to 1 min or if i cannot handle pain anymore...think i'll be back up there soon as pain is getting too much for me

I hope you other juners are having a good day

Sorry, trespassing again from May 2009 to read Silk's birth story which has made me cry! Well done you!

hi all

just a quickie while Isobel finally sleeps! Has anyone else found that there little one's dont actually sleep much? I'm sure when dd1 was tiny she slept most of the day only really waking for feeds. Isobel seems to be awake most of the day, she tends to nap for a little while (20mins or so) after a feed but then she's awake again until her next one?? in the night she is also awake a lot and takes a lot to get her to settle to sleep.

I feel the pain of all those with sore nipples, I thought i was doing well but the last couple of days they have got raw and really sore i keep lathering on the lansinoh but i dont really think its having any effect. i tried nipple shields yesterday but she couldnt really get the hang of them. bfeeding is no fun!

Laura - hooray! sounds like it is finally happening for you! best of luck and cant
wait to hear more news

Effie - great news that you have Rupert home at last

oh no shes awake again, must dash.

hi to everyone else, i'll try to pop back later

afternoon all

laura, how exciting!!!! Hope this is it now, you're definitely on the home stretch I think augmentation might be the same as induction, most units aren't happy if labour hasn't started within 24 hours of your waters breaking due to the risk of infection, hopefully the aromatherapy will do the trick!

effie, wonderful news, must be lovely to finally have Rupert home

silk, it is normal for some to have pain for the first few sucks, generally if the latch is wrong the pain will last for longer. Plus you get the let down which can be a little painful too. Hopefully the feeding will even out soon and you'll get a bit more time with dd. My dd3 has taken to feeding her dolly while Edward is feeding and then she puts her dolly in his basket.

choccie, yay for Elina getting back to her birth weight Not so sunny here, nice and warm though!

naat, hope you get sorted today and the wait's not too bad!

daisy, good site! My dd3 had mild reflux, no mistaking that though, she used to bring her entire feed up over anyone close, quite spectacularly sometimes Thankfully she's grown out of it now!

ermin and loooouise, lol at fan oven

worriedamy, what a pain, hope you get your internet sorted soon!

MrsMcJnr, hope you got the authorities to agree to register the birth

I'm sure Edward smiled at me this morning although I'm also sure it's too early yet and must have been wind

waves to all

laura that's good news, hope everything progresses soon for you, good luck with it xx

effie how fab that you and Rupert are home, very pleased to hear it.

loouise my friend who came for coffee this morning said both her DC were born 10 days 'late' but she was sure they were just born at the right time, and I feel the same about my 3 day 'late' DD and 10 days 'late' DS. Ovulation, fertilisation etc. can make loads of difference, and there isn't a precise number of days that each baby takes to get ready. I just wish there were some late due dates on this thread!!

silk quite a few of the mums have had awful nipple pain but although it felt a bit odd and tender at first, and they do certainly need to toughen up a bit, I never had it bad. If the MW is sure the latch is good and Eleri is actually drinking plenty that's the main thing but it shouldn't be agony. Hope someone else in similar position can advise.

Sounds like your DD has some adjustments to make - it's a lot to get used to and it's nice that she wants to feed her little sis (toast ! My sister had to watch her 2 LOs like a hawk after she found her newborn DD's mouth full of raisins her big sis had lovingly shared with her .

hello all

Good luck with yr impending birth Laura - hope you enjoy yr aromtherapy treatment.

Still baby swooning here but feeling knackered as haven't really managed more than 3-4 hrs sleep for the last 2 nights. Eleri is doing much better at breastfeeding than her sister did. But now I discovering the joys of nipple agony [contorted face emoticon]

Mw who popped over yesterday said the first few sucks of any feed for the first week will be excruiating as my nipples need to toughen up. Is this right? I just assumed I had the positioning/latch wrong? She said it was just normal.

Dd1 isn't quite so enamoured with her little sis as we hoped. She is fine if anyone else is holding the baby but very wobbly lipped if I am. She's still being nice to her though - tried to feed her toast yesterday morning and brought her a teddy today. Just think she's missing mummy as I'm spending some much time trying to feed. I feel very guilty

Hope the rest of you are doing well

Ermin I don't have a fan oven either...8 days overdue here and just about to set off for my romantic sweep

I'm actually starting to be a bit depressed, which I know is silly, as I'm sure baby will be here by the wkend...

But you Lauraloo, are the star of the moment!!! Good luck honey, how lovely to think that in just 24 hours you'll have your wee prince/princess. Wishing you a fabulous birth xxxx

Hello ladies with babies, hope you're getting some rest and relief from the sore nips/breast feeding problems...
Thinking about all those with DPs/DHs returning to work shortly. You all seem to be doing splendidly, which is giving me great heart!!

Hi All.

Congratulations to Dreamy and Junexxx

Sorry I haven't been on for a few days-- but we were allowed to take Rupert home on Friday and have been having lots of make-up times.

well after thurs night of rooming in-I took Rupert back to the nursery, so I could get some breakfast- bumped into one of the sisters and registrars and they said- I could take him, as I would be doing no different at home than I would be in hospital-- being an ex-SCBU nurse was a bonus for me, as they trust me to phone if any worries.

So now- Hes constantly feeding and sleeping, being very good at night. I do give him a forula feed, last thing at night and that sees him through to about 4ish and gives my nipples a rest.

I have both boys asleep at the mo and enjoying the peace. I've forgotten how tiring night feeds are- but loving it.

Hope you are all well?

Thank-you again for all your support over the last few weeks-- you've all been fab.

I will keep up properly now and looking forward to reading your posts and not just scimming between hosptial visits.

Lots of love xxxxxx

hiya everyone just back from hospital where they checked me over. It was my waters that broke and been told baby should be here by latest this time tomorrow. Going back at 4.30 for aromatherapy treatment. At first there was no pain but now i'm quite sore but nothing i cant handle on my own so never know might just be kept in when i go back. Baby has now engaged so i can give birth at the midwife unit as long as contractions start by 7 tomorrow morning if not i'll need to go to consultant at 8 tomorrow for augmentation (whatever that is lol)

Oh dear - I'm so behind and only have two minutes to quickly see the baby list before off to nursery to pick up dd.

Thinking of you all and hopefully in next day or two shall be back online.

Just quickly - ColicOrReflux - any troubled babies suffering (Doris?), doctors have a habit of saying it is colic when sometimes is reflux. My dd had silent reflux and wasn't diagnosed for a month - here is a website with good info Reflux

laura - sounds a lot like your waters. Good luck.

Sorry had to post that quicker than expected as health nurse arrived. She weighed Elina and she has gained weight She was down nearly 10% of her birth weight on Thursday but her feeding has doubled since then and she is back to birth weight. I am so pleased.

Hi Worriedamy and Bigcar.

Hows it going June?

Lovely hot sunny day here. Going to be a good week. Lets have some more babies!!

Hey Laura - sounds like your waters have gone. My water was straw coloured. KInd of pinky yellow. I took a sample into the hospital with me. Keep us posted on how you get on. Have you called the MW? My waters went at 5am and I had DD by 1.18pm!!! Good Luck.

Naat - hey there how are you keeping? Can't believe you have had to trudge down to London to sort things out. I would not have the energy for any of that. I still feel wrecked and Elina is a week old now.

DH has returned to work today . I miss him so much. He has been so wonderful, spent hours entertaining the boys, taking them out to the zoo etc, fed them every meal all week and cooked all of our meals. I have not had to lift a finger. He even took the kids to school this morning so I could catch up on sleep and my MIL is collecting them later on and taking them back to her house for a play That gives me space to cook dinner and spend time with lo

Had a tougher night last night. Elina took her last feed at 11.30pm and settled ok but after her feed at 4am she would not settle due to wind. She was so upset and we tried everything (not used the infacol yet but reading the pack after this). She finally settled at 6.45am (fifteen minutes before we wake the boys for school) and both dh and I are shattered. She has had another feednow and gone stright back to sleep. I guess it is going to take a little longer for her to sort out her days from her nights

Hi Ermin. Glad to hear you are in good spirits.

Mrsmc - Is the sun shining over there?
How is your cat? Hope things are ok. I am feeling a bit better today in myself. Think I might even go out for a little walk after the Public Health Nurse has visited.

Tee - That bath soak sounded amazing
I remember when I had episiotomy stitches (nothing compared to cs) I bathed 3 times a day in tea tree oil.

Hi Juners!!

Well, down south since yesterday. Now at the embassy in what seems to be the longest wait ever haha.

I've tried to catch up so hopefully I will write a decent post.

Mrsmc, hope dd is better now and that you've found a solution to tia's situation (((hug))) thanks for your advice re nipple shields

Silk, wonderful birth story!! Yay for you!! Can't wait to see some pics.

June, so sorry to hear about calypso's feeding... I really hope you can get all the support you need to help her feed (((hug)))

Tee, we're leaving a small lamp light on, because I feel just the same, that it's too dark and cannot see her

Doris, sorry to hear about dd's colic. Mila showed signs of that on day 3 and infacol has helped wonderfully, thank God. MW suggested not eating anything that would make me windy or fizzy drinks. No idea if that would help, but thought I should tell you. Sorry if you already know this.

Bunny, nipples are healing, thanks to the shields, which were a real godsend. I was crying so badly every time she fed and dreading feeding time so even if it's not the best thing to do, I felt I had to. Feeling guilty as well, though, but I guess we cannot help to feel that way...

Ermin, worried, louise and laura (or maybe not), hope babies come soon!!! We're not leaving you behind, so don't worry!!! We're graduating all together

Ohhh I feel I'm forgetting someone so sorry if I am.

Hope you have a lovely day. Mila wants to feed now so I have to go

(((Waves)))

Oh flash post
Laura, if u think it was ur watersn call MW and let them know asap, as they will tell u how to proceed

Hope this is it for you!!! Sending birthing vibes!! (((Hug)))

Posting from blackb, sorry for the semi text speak.

Will post properly now if possible, at the embassy now!!!

laura call the midwife she might want to check the waters if it did not come out clear.
If you still have the pad you can bring it to her.

fingers crossed it's happening for you :D
My waters leaked as well before I went in labour :D

morning everyone!

tee you're right very quiet...hopefully people are off having babies and i think i might be one of them soon

TMI ALERT earlier this morning i barely made it to the loo so decided to put on a pad. well about 5 mins ago i think my waters went as couldn't control leak and pad is filled now so maybe today is the day but the pad colour isn't clear it is kinda yellowy in colour dont know whether waters should be clear or not any mummies around to advise??
Only thing is i'm not really having any pain just now so kinda confused x

Morning all! 'Fraid not Tee - had some promising cramps last night but they came to nought. A friend just popped in for coffee and we bemoaned the notion of the 'due date' since both of hers were 10 days 'late' but clearly in fine form. Cooking times may vary. Clearly I just don't have a fan oven .

MrsMc has Aaliyah's cold gone yet? Hope your DS is calming down, and that the situation with pusscat is being resolved. x

Very quite around here...is everyone else off having babies?

Sorry folks, not got much time tonight but will catch up tomorrow
Silk – ah congratulations hon on the birth of Eleri
Choccie – hope you are ok hon, sorry to hear about the birthday party and your DS
Bunnymother – lovely name
Bunny & Naat - I know how it feels to have cracked, sore and bleeding nipples with bits missing, that was me with DS, for the first 10 days I cried whilst I fed him and dreaded the next feed. It was excruciating. I started using protectors but to be honest I wish that I hadn’t used them for so long. They totally destroyed his latch and I was never able to give them up again and I found that stressful. This time, I am a bit sore but nothing like as bad and I am trying the tactic of air drying my nipples as much as I can and not using any creams. So far I am getting on better. I have the Medela Swing and thought it was great (not used it yet this time) I hope getting a few feeds off helps you recover quickly so you can ditch the protectors. At the end of the day, your babies are getting a health bonus every feed and you should be proud of your perseverance
Naat – sorry to hear about all the bureaucracy, I can empathise!
Take care everyone

I'm feeling a bit guilty about keeping you mummies on this thread when you should be on antenatal but still no baby here... Lauraloo sounds like you might be on the way, I really hope so. I have those cord around the neck nightmares too - unfortunately shared them with DH who is now terrified it will happen. MWs always check once the head is born, and unwind it straight away, so am trying not to get hung up about it. Equally, waters going doesn't cause distress to baby; will prob make the head go lower naturally. I think we worry as part of displacement.

June hope the milk comes in; I think dealing with post-CS recovery and a baby who's not interested must make everything more tricky. MW doesn't sound v encouraging though - there's a lot of pyschology involved so she should be being a bit more sensitive I reckon. Glad Calypso has had some food and sleep - hope you get some rest too.

bunny I meant to say, Cordelia is a beautiful name

Night all

june the one advantage to having him in SCBU is that I had several days to heal before he came home. So my scar is fine. I had self disolving stitches, so no need to have them out.

My MW advised soaking in a bath for about 20 minutes with 5 drops lavender oil, 5 drops tea tree oil in about 20mls of baby oil. Cleared right up the bits of my scar that were a worry in one soaking.

I am not able to breastfeed. I'm getting nothing no matter what I do. So Adam is on Cow and Gate.

hi everyone, internet has now completely died, so back to using my phone for the net! Still no baby here so looks like I'm going overdue unless he arrives in the next 2 hours! Congrats to everyone who has had their babys- lucky people!! Sorry bit of an impersonal message, but its a bit difficult on my phone to flick through posts!! Keep your chin up lauraloo, I'm sure everything will be fine xx hopefully will have the net back soon, so will be able to do a proper catch up! Stay positive all you ladies in waiting!

see what I miss, typing one handed

june, sending you ((((hugs)))) hopefully she'll be up all night feeding! At least you have a good supportive midwife by the sound of it. Hard and lumpy for a scar is normal

laura, it'll be your turn soon hope all goes well tomorrow

evening all

silk, lovely story, so pleased everything went well!

june, scar care, best to keep clean and dry as possible. Showers are supposed to better than baths, avoid getting too much soap on it and dry well after, hairdrier on a low heat setting does the job nicely as no rubbing is needed. And try to get some air to the scar, especially if you're getting hot and sweaty Wear loose clothing and big knickers to avoid anything rubbing or irritating. Some people recommend arnica for the bruising but haven't used it. Your Calypso is gorgeous, hope you're enjoying all the cuddles. Whatever you do, don't overdo it

Doris, sorry to hear about the colic, that's no fun.

Hope all with sore nips find they heal quickly

Looks like we might be in need of a new thread for the last few ladies Sending you positive labour vibes

Hope everyone's had a good fathers day! I found Edward an I heart my daddy t shirt for today, he looked so cute!

waves to all

june how about Due June 09 - they think it's all over...

or something along those lines x

it's a bit quiet on here now, hopefully some of the ladies in waiting are off giving birth...unfortunately i'm not one of them.

june sorry to read about your BF troubles, hopefully things will get better for you and Calypso x

In laws took me and DH out for a meal tonight (indian) and it was lovely a nice hot curry so here's hoping it will help get things going. For past hour I have been in agony but nothing i cant handle, except constant ache is annoying me lol, but DH is quite concerned so he is trying to get me to go to hospital or call them, think he is worried if waters go and baby not engaged that it may cause distress to baby, also over past hour had even more thick clear discharge and constant feeling like bottom of belly is going to explode...not a good feeling

I have a consultant appointment tomorrow which i am dreading, not slept properly since friday due to what midwifes were telling me, having constant nightmares of waters breaking and cord going round baby's neck so will discuss this anxiety with consultant too as well as the reason why me and 2 brothers were all sections due to mum's small pelvis...never know might book me in for a section although i would like a section for this to be over i would still like to avoid this if i can as i was looking forward to a natural birth.

Sorry for the me me me post xx

we're going to need to think about a new thred title soon, so who's still got the required brain cells for it?

oh Bunny don t eed bad for topping up with formula... Im having big problems with breastfeeding, today i tried squeezing my boobs and nothing came out, the midwife came round and she really wasn't optimistic about my breastfeeding. I will order an electric pump and try and express, in the meantime it's formula for us I cried so much
It was such a relief to see Calypso eat something though I was getting really worried that she just wasn't feeding.

I wrote down every thing she had, breast, top ups etc and we tried feeding her breast and formula with the mw and she wasn't having either. The mw said it wasn't a normla pattern, that she is a fussy eater, not really interested in feeding and with my flat nipples and the aftermath tiredness of the c-section it's just all a bit too much for me.
We're going to weigh her on Tuesday and see how she is going then,

We had plenty of skin to skin contact this afternoon to try and get milk or colostrum or SOMETHING coming ou of my breasts!!!

Tee how is your c-section scar? my belly feels hard and lumpy, the mw is taking the stitches out on tuesday. I guess I wasn't prepared for it so it's all going round and round in my mind. I hope yours was a better experience and you're recovering well!

Hi everybody, sorry I can't cath up more than that, I'm quite tired though I must say it's so much nicer being home :D
Gonna try and get some ZZzzzz while Calyspo will allow me!

take care!

{blush] don't know what happened there

Hi to you all, and congratulations to all the recent arrivals for dreamy june and silk, have been reading and following all the events as they hapen but am rarely allowed time to post! And gorgeous names all!

tee great news that adam is home with you, now the scary reality of checking every five minutes that everything is ok can start

Laura ermin and all the other ladies in waiting, haven't forgotton you and we won't graduate to postnatal without you I was due end of the month last time so when my dates changed this time I switched from the May thread (just so I could be one of the 1st for scans etc) Loads of postive birthing vibes coming your way

ineed dd2 was nearly month before her first bath so no worries (the hospital said it was better not to bath)

Mrsmc really sorry to hear about your cat hope she doesn't suffer anymore...

bunny I got a swing last time and they are fab have just dug it (and the steriliser etc) out of the loft to start expressing some and hopefully give my poor nips a rest, they are feeling a little better with the diclofenac thrush cream and now I've started applying lansinoh to the breast pads before reinserting into my bra (can't put it on ontop of the thrush cream as it doesn't stick!) Also ent outside and exposed myself this afternoon (on the mw recomendations) which seems to have helped as well. Still some pain but mostly first thing in the morning. Oh and those in an doubt IT DOES GET EASIER, HONESTLY !!!!! it's this first bit that sucks

Annabelle has started to have colic now mostly in the evenings which makes for a fun night bless I can see she is in pain but I just can not get her to wind properly after a feed (even with Infacol) I've changed my diet and gone dairy free to see if that helps (DD1 and DH were/ are dairy intolerant with similar symptoms)

LittleS I'm a lot more weepy this time than before with dd1 I had the blues at about day 5 and they lasted minutes ( well not literally but that's all I can remember) This time the smallest thing (or even nothing) sets me off this morning my dgrandma phoned and talked aboiut a cousin of mine who died as a toddler (he had significant health problems) set me off as I jsut thought she was being really insensitive given the problems DD2 faces... probably a bi of an overreaction.

Am going to post now whilst Annabelle is sleeping (thank god, as she's trying to feed for england and I'm trying to space feeds out to help with the colic) and having to referee the other two more than usual as they both 'fight' for attention Forgot how bloody hard thius newborn stage is....

Hi to you all, and congratulations to all the recent arrivals for dreamy june and silk, have been reading and following all the events as they hapen but am rarely allowed time to post! And gorgeous names all!

tee great news that adam is home with you, now the scary reality of checking every five minutes that everything is ok can start

Laura ermin and all the other ladies in waiting, haven't forgotton you and we won't graduate to postnatal without you I was due end of the month last time so when my dates changed this time I switched from the May thread (just so I could be one of the 1st for scans etc) Loads of postive birthing vibes coming your way

ineed dd2 was nearly month before her first bath so no worries (the hospital said it was better not to bath)

Mrsmc really sorry to hear about your cat hope she doesn't suffer anymore...

bunny I got a swing last time and they are fab have just dug it (and the steriliser etc) out of the loft to start expressing some and hopefully give my poor nips a rest, they are feeling a little better with the diclofenac thrush cream and now I've started applying lansinoh to the breast pads before reinserting into my bra (can't put it on ontop of the thrush cream as it doesn't stick!) Also ent outside and exposed myself this afternoon (on the mw recomendations) which seems to have helped as well. Still some pain but mostly first thing in the morning. Oh and those in an doubt IT DOES GET EASIER, HONESTLY !!!!! it's this first bit that sucks

Annabelle has started to have colic now mostly in the evenings which makes for a fun night bless I can see she is in pain but I just can not get her to wind properly after a feed (even with Infacol) I've changed my diet and gone dairy free to see if that helps (DD1 and DH were/ are dairy intolerant with similar symptoms)

LittleS I'm a lot more weepy this time than before with dd1 I had the blues at about day 5 and they lasted minutes ( well not literally but that's all I can remember) This time the smallest thing (or even nothing) sets me off this morning my dgrandma phoned and talked aboiut a cousin of mine who died as a toddler (he had significant health problems) set me off as I jsut thought she was being really insensitive given the problems DD2 faces... probably a bi of an overreaction.

Am going to post now whilst Annabelle is sleeping (thank god, as she's trying to feed for england and I'm trying to space feeds out to help with the colic) and having to referee the other two more than usual as they both 'fight' for attention Forgot how bloody hard thius newborn stage is....

Poor old you bunny - It sounds so much like my experience with DS. You're not a bad mummy for resorting to a top-up. Don't beat yourself up. I completely understand the pain too. I would 'white-out' on it with DS and NO WAY could I hold a conversation other than murmur 'fuck fuck fuck' over and over until it was over. I seriously found it more painful than labour contractions at times. Nipple shields sound like the best bet to give your poor old nips time to recover. It DOES get easier (though had someone said that to me at the time I would have cheerfully killed them) but this time round I've found it so much easier.

I used to beat myself up all the time that it should be easy as everyone else found it so, and that there must be something wrong with me that I couldn't cope with the pain. Once the nips get shredded though (and mine were in a pretty sorry state by the time I gave up and resorted to bottles) it's so hard to recover as they get such a battering each feed. Nipple shields and expressing sound like the best bet to give you a couple of days respite. Also, have you tried putting Lansinoh on before the shower to not let them dry out at all? Sorry if you've tried it, but it helped me.

One thing I found (and DS was forceps too) that a cranial osteopath worked as the forceps had damaged his jaw. Not that this has happened to you, but it might be worth going as they can improve the latch for you sometimes by checking how wide they can open their mouth. We're taking DD next week as she seems to hold onto her burps for hours and has terrible pain so hopefully she'll sort that out (she sorted loads of stuff with DS). Hope it improves soon xx

Well having a good day after a bit more sleep last night. Had some friends over, and now going to bath DD for the first time (in 18 days ) and have some family time.

Love to all you Juners with babies, and even more love and luck to those still waiting xx

Ooops, MrsMcJnr - hope little Aaliyah is feeling better today...

Morning ladies!

Afraid to say I have found some respite in expressing breast milk via my new best friend: Medela Swing breast pump. Its electric, Naat and I can recommend it!

Por old nipples need a break, so hopefully tomorrow will let them near the commandant our darling Delie (what we are calling Cordelia for short), but only once firmly encased in nipple shield. Perhaps I am a wimp, but the pain was so bad I had to try hypnobirthing relaxation techniques and couldn't talk when she was feeding. . That was pre-Medela and am now in the Swing of things - ha ha

Although, am v v v bad mummy, and last night we even gave her 200ml of formula to top her up as she had 6 dirty nappies and wanted to eat for her country and poor old boobs couldn't keep up - the screaming was v upsetting for all. We are back to breast, but has taught me that am not textbook mum, but things happen and we do our best.

God, me me me me! How are you all today?

Help - thank you for more hope that nipples can recover and continue to serve even once injured.

June - your birth story sounds v similar to mine, only we averted C section due to final giant yank from obstetrician whose biceps were apparently bulging . Sounds like you did brilliantly, and hope you are satisfied w your labour.

Silk - goodness me!! So impressed!! Hope you are recovering beautifully and enjoying your little darling.

Delie wants to eat again, and has a zero tolerance policy, but have to run.

Hello all you other lovely Juners!!

Polly had sucked so hard on my nipples they blistered by day 2. then cracked, bled and crusted over. i persevered and they are fine now.

rub breast milk on them after each feed. just as good as lansinoh.

breast milk seems to be good for everything. polly had a bit of an eye infection - crusty yellow etc. put in breast milk (on midwife's advice) and it has now gone. just difficult to aim right so her poor little face was covered in the stuff.

AARGH, just lost a huge post and don't know why

Tee I thought exactly the same when I saw iris's post - thought I'd wandered btwn threads without realising.

June sorry things didn't go according to plan but glad you are home now - and Calypso is gorgeous! I know nothing about electric pumps, but do know that even with inverted/flat nipples, posting the whole lot into baby's mouth is a good approach. The hosp shouldn't have made you do anything with formula - it's just to tick their boxes - hope they haven't caused too much confusion and that you get some rest soon x

silk fab story, I'm hoping for something similar. I'd love my DC to be around while it's happening but we don't have anyone else who can sit with them at short notice - all our friends will be busy with their own DC - and DH is v nervous about what would happen if I needed to transfer to hospital, so at the first signs of labour they'll go to a friend's house up the road, whatever the time of day or night. That's why I'd like to do it in the day - when they're at school would be highly convenient! - so we can all be together as soon as possible.

choccie I've found that the shy kids at parties always respond well to an older child taking them under their wing, and my DD has been vg at getting DS's friends to join in - if the party hostess had had a nice 8 yr old I bet your DS would have been fine. I'm sure he'll settle, bless him. The protocols about at what age DC are left alone at parties vary wildly in any case. Hope he's feeling happier today

Hey looouise, Lauralooo and worriedamy. It's a bind, innit?

iris I thought I was in the wrong thread!!

xposts Iris - of course I remember you. Hope yr imminent arrival goes well x

Morning all

trying for a catch up before my little girls wake

Choc for yr ds - must have been ehartbreaking . We're all upset and he's not ours. Glad you took him out for compensatory chocolate cake.

Loooouise/Ermin/Worried/Laura - am feeling a bit guilty at having deserted you and escaping the departure lounge. Not long for any of you now I think.

Tee - you must be so relieved at having your lovely little boy home. Wrt to lighting we have a bedside lamp with a soft focus candle thing in it - I found it essential last time for nighttime feeds etc.

June - Calypso is beautiful with all that lovely hair. we'll be unlikely to get pictures up anytime soon as we're a bit bloody useless. Mw had to remind Chris to go and find the camera and take a picture!

So much for sleepy newborns. Mw's parting words were 'she'll sleep and sleep for a few days but try not to leave her longer than 6/8 hours without having a feed' She didn't go to sleep until 2am having fed (with varying degrees of success) 5 times since birth.

Just heard a little voice say 'hello mummy motorbike' ?! Got to go

Love to all Juners

<iris sneaks in & hopes nobody minds for a minute>

silkcushion - hi and congratulations!!!! I remember you from the Nov 07 thread and didn't realise you were pregnant too!,obviously goes round with eyes closed > Hope my imminent birth is as lovely as yours was. Eleri is a beautiful name btw and DD sounds like she's going to be a darling with her little sister - take care.

Hi Mummies!!

Well, we are home. We are asleep in our own cot at the moment as we woke up, ate a bit and then decided, ya know what? I'm still sleepy. So rather than go back into our bedroom and put him in his cradle and possibly wake DH, who took care of him last night so I could get some sleep, I put him in his cot. He slept from 12:45 - 4:45...I hope this is typical!! Oh and he really only woke up because Mummy got nervous and took him out of his cradle to see how he was!!

Speaking of that, what is everyone doing about light at night? The only lights in our bedroom are quite bright, but it is very dark in there so I can't really see him. Any bright ideas?

Congratulations to any new mummies that I haven't been able to congratulate yet!

june she's beautiful! Adam was wearing the boy version of that onesie yesterday!!!

laura here's hoping for you! Good luck!

silk that's an amazing story! It must have been wonderful.

june Calypso is gorgeous!!!

I've had more thick discharge today and cramps but not coming to anything...def going to ring hospital if pain wakes me up tonight

Will try and catch up with everyone in the morning but to all of us in waiting i hope something happens over night.

jUne she is absolutely gorgeous, a real beauty. You must be besotted. Congratulations again xx

Wow Silk that is an incredible story, wow, wow, wow!
You must be so proud of yourself! And how lovely that DD bonded like that (love the bit about her pointing at your tummy and saying 'baby'). Honestly, I got goosebumps reading your post! Congratulations and welcome dear Eleri.

My 'contractions' stopped at 5.30pm, with nothing since, so I'd be surprised if I got my solstice baby... Tomorrow I'll be 41 weeks. Humph.

June , welcome home from hospital, hope baby sleeps a little tonight and you get some rest. Sorry your birth didn't quite go to plan, but lucky lucky you to have darling Calypso in your arms. I am trying to take heart from your experience and hoping I'll start spontaneously before I'm induced on Weds....

Choccie sending you hugs and hair strokes...

Bunny I love love love Cordelia

Sending you solidarity Ermitrude, Lauraloo, Worried, can't be long for us now...can it???

Birth Story - the bits you don't know (not much left)

Mw had visited at 10.30 and doen an itnernal. Said I was 4cm and very stretchy cervix with bulging waters. She rang back at 12.15.

Contractions strengthened between 10.30 and 12.15 when she rang but slowed down in frequency to evry 6-8 minutes or so. She arrived back at 12.45.

Dd had been out with dmum for a walk. Had her lunch and went down for nap at 12.30 (like MrsM's ds) Dmum popped out to Tescos. She didn't want to be around and I didn't want her there either.

Just as MW arrived I had a big contraction in the loo after a wee and felt huge amounts of pressure in my rectum (sorry if tmi). We retreated to Dh's guitar room where I had a single duvet doubled up on the floor covered by a tesco 90p value shower curtain and old towels. Laboured for a bit leaning over birthing ball. Only position that seemed bearable. Was using hypnobirthing relaxation techniques throughout.

DH was watching sky sports in the lounge as I'd told him to. Mw said don't worry MrSilk we'll call you when we need to. 2nd mw rang at 1.40 to say she was in the area nad should she come over or go to her next appointment. Mw said 'not needed yet but getting going quite well' That's when I grabeb the enotonx and breathed it in, started to grunt . She spotted something had changed and said 'did that feel pushy?'

Seconds later waters broke spectacularly and head crowned. Talk about a multi tasker - mw rang 2nd mw whilst calling for dh to assist whilst delivering the head. 2nd mw ran through the door whilst body was coming out. Waters going to full delivery - 2 minutes. Even mw was

Had a tear (along the line of last time) but not as bad needed stitching though. They really took time to help with skin to skin and getting Eleri to feed immediately given problems I had with dd1.

DMum walked in from Tesco 5 mins later dh told her 'she'd arrived' and she thought he meant the mw! Dd1 woke up at the same time. Came for cuddle with me whilst mw checked dd2 and was completely perplexed/bewildered. Kept saying baby over and over and patting my tummy and pointing at dsis as if she couldn't work out what the hell had happened whilst she had a nap. She's been a bit clingy to my dmum for the rest of the day but did give her dsis a kiss goodnight and managed to say her name

Thoroughly recommend homebirthing and hypnobirthing if they are yr thing - on other benefit - mw said dd was totally relaxed and unphased throughout labour when she checked her heartbeat - let's hope she's just a chilled out baby who loves to sleep at night [deluded emoticon]

Of to bed now for a few hours kip

Hey!!!

Big sigh of relief here as we're both home after what feels like a lifetime in the hospital.

Labour and birth weren't a positive experience for me because first the contractions "failed to progress" and they gave me the drip, then the baby got stressed with almost every contraction and her heart kept decelarating which is why I hd to have a c-section. I'll write the birth story down when I've had a bit more sleep.

Baby's pattern is that she sleeps all day and cries all night.
Breastfeeding is not established yet and they made me give her a bottle of formula in the hospital because she just wasn't eating enough. I'm going to persevere though and offer her the breast every time she needs a feed.
What baby does is that she gets the breast in her mouth, she'll suck for 30 seconds and then fall asleep or just stay there and not suck.

Any good recommendations for an electric pump? I have a manual one which I use to try and get my "flat" nipples out so she has something to latch onto better. THIS WILL WORK <optimitic emoticon>.

For the ones who had a c-section as well, do you need to do anything special to take care of your scar? I have staples apparently, not that I have looked yet, they didn't have mirrors that low down in the hospital. The doctor who checked me out said they were "ok" and that the midwife would take the staples out on day 5. (Didn't realise we'd still be counting in days after birth...)

ok gotta go fornow

Thanks for your kind words everyone re:DS1. The party did seem very well organised but the problem was that there was only one host looking after about 25 boys (5 and 6 yr olds)and my DS seems to always be the one that is extra sensitive and finds it harder to join in when in larger groups. The mum that organised the party did her best to encourage DS to stay and was very sweet.He needs a warm cheerful bubbly person to help get him in the swing of things and the host was not that person. Never mind.We went out later on this afternoon and bought some chocolate cake to make up for the birthday cake he missed out on

Its funny how since I have had my new baby I am also realising how much I also adore my older kids and that they need me just as much.

Any more babies???

Oh, I forgot!

Ermin, DH looooved your idea of the first bath and we're absolutely doing it! Don't know when, though But soon, hopefully Thanks for your advice, again.

Hi Juners!

Flash post! sorry

Silk, well done you!!! Congratulations on the birth of Eleri!! Can't wait to read your birth story.

Choccie, I can't believe the hosts! I cried when reading your post Poor little lamb your DS, and no wonder you cried!! Hormones or not I'd have cried my eyes out! (((hug)))

Bunny, same problem here. Up to yesterday nipples were OK, then hell broke loose and cracks appeared, then some blood, oh my the tears! I bought some Medela nipple shields today as the pain was just unbearable and I've just tried them and they are heaven!!! Hope they work as well for you Love Cordelia!!

Mrsmc, so sorry to hear about Tia's diagnosis. I can't believe the vet... as some Juners said, he's supposed to give advice, not judge your decision! So so sorry you have to go through this right now (((hug)))

Hello to all Juners! I'm so so sorry I'm not catching up properly, it's just crazy here. Tomorrow we're going to London to start the crazy birth registry/passport process for Mila on Monday. We were shocked to realise that the times for the process have changed now and we have to go 3 times down south in order to do each thing separately!!! I can't belive they make you do this with a newborn, esp. when you don't live in London!! Aaaaaaand breathe... Will try to post from there.

Have a good night all, hope the ones still waiting have their LOs with them soon!!!

(((waves))))

June - my apologies, missed posts - congratulations on the arrival of baby Calypso!! Looking forward to seeing photos!

Choccie - you poor thing, my heart goes out to your little darling boy, no wonder you were sad. I read an article this afternoon that had me in tears, too... Am also feeling v daunted about DH going back to work on Monday. [scared emoticon]

Afternoon ladies!

Another quick post from me!

MrsMcJnr - so sorry to hear about your cat - I empathise - when we lost our cat, we lost a member of our family.

Silk - congratulations on little Eleri - cannot believe you posted, had her, then posted again!! You are an Amazon!

ZoZoCat - thinking of you today - hope your baby arrives v soon!

Tee - wonderful news that Adam is home with you! Terrific!

Well, nipples are beyond sore - cracked, bleeding and missing bits . Despite working on the latch, lathering Lanisoh on after every feed, and airing the poor old nipples. Solution? Have bought nipple shields, and used a breast pump for the last 2 feeds. Just dashed to Boots and upgraded to the Medela Swing for tonight's feeds - wish me luck!! She guzzled in 2 minutes the 60 mls it took me 30 mins to express! Once nipples a little less destroyed, will see how we go w the shields, too. Will keep you posted, and thank you for all the support and advice!

We have decided to call our baby Cordelia, so below is the updated post for the Juner babies!

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Bunnymother - Cordelia 12:03pm on 14 June, 7lb 11oz
chocciedooby - Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
Naat - Mila Maunier weighing 3.255kg and measuring 51cm 14th june 2.53 pm
Daisy- Fraser Alistair was born Monday 15th June 2009 at 10:08pm. A handsome chap, he weighs in at a tidy 7lbs 13.5oz (3.56kg) and is 56cm long.
insywinsyspider - Boy Edward (Bear) 16th June 2009 7am
dreamydowler - Evie Rose born 17th June 4.50pm 8lb 2oz
June2009 - calypso lilly raphaelle 18th June, 7lbs!!
silkcushion - Eleri Isabella born 20th June at 1.52pm 7lb 13.5 oz

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

Tee - fab news, so so pleased for you

Silk - CONGRATULATIONS on the birth of Eleri! beautiful name!

Choccie - sorry to hear you are feeling teary. i am so worried about dd1 feeling upset and pushed out by Isobel's arrival. its only natural, try not to beat yourself up about it, our hormones are still all over the place

Mrsmc - hope Aaliyah is feeling better, how awful for her to be poorly so young

June - congratulations on the birth of Calypso, hope you are both doing really well

Laura - happy due date, cant believe you have made it here, must be frustrating for you. ive thought soooo many times that your baby was coming. hope you dont have too much more of a wait

Hi to everyone else, hope all mummys, babies and mummys-to-be are doing well

silk, huge congratulations and welcome to little Eleri Must have been quite quick in the end?!

tee, wonderful news

choccie, still feeling a little bit blue every now and then, it takes a while for everything to go back to normal! Lack of sleep never helps either. Hope your ds is ok now.

Wow silk, you popped out to have a baby in between posts! . Many congratulations on the birth of Eleri, and well done!

choccie Sounds to me like whoever was running that party wasn't doing it very well - you just don't organise games where some children might be left without a partner . He might already be feeling a little vulnerable - only natural with a new arrival - and the host/s should have been extra careful to involve all the children in the games. I am outraged on your behalf! Whether pregnant (still.. zzzzzzzz) or newly-delivered I think we can all get pretty tearful at the moment. I'm sure he'll cheer up soon.

Choccie - Certainly I am a bit up and down at times! I feel quite teary about your ds's party experience, poor wee lamb! I keep thinking of the things I wanted to try and do while on maternity leave (make extra cash selling stuff on ebay and try and write my novel - cliched!) and wondering when I'll ever feel up to doing any of it!

Congrats to silk on birth of Eleri! Sounds like it went well, can't wait to hear more!

Congratulations silk! What fabulous news xx

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - Mila Maunier weighing 3.255kg and measuring 51cm 14th june 2.53 pm
chocciedooby - Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
Daisy- Fraser Alistair was born Monday 15th June 2009 at 10:08pm. A handsome chap, he weighs in at a tidy 7lbs 13.5oz (3.56kg) and is 56cm long.
insywinsyspider - Boy Edward (Bear) 16th June 2009 7am
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009) (34, 1st one!)
June2009 - calypso lilly raphaelle 18th June, 7lbs!!
dreamydowler - Evie Rose born 17th June 4.50pm 8lb 2oz
silkcushion - Eleri Isabella born 20th June at 1.52pm 7lb 13.5 oz

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

Congratulations Silk. Wonderful news. Another girl to add to our list
Sounds like you had a lovely quick home birth. Well done you.

Tee - how lovely to have your little boy home

Mrsmc - sorry baba has a cold Hope it clears soon.

Bigcar - your little man sounds like a wonderful baby.

Ineed - you are doing great with the bf. I only managed 3 days with DS1 and it put me off for life . Every day that you ladies do is admirable, especially the pain that you go through.

laura - you are on quite a rollercoaster each day. You are going to end up with a very special lo and it will be all so worth it

Any new mummies out there feeling the blues??
It hit me quite badly today. I left the house for the 1st time to take DS1 to a birthday party and when we got there he struggled to join in the party games. All the kids partnered up and he was left walking around looking for someone to partner him. He looked like a little lost lamb and my heart went out to him. He ended up being left out of a few games and no-one really seemed to notice. He didn't want me to leave him and kept coming up to me for a cuddle and asking me not to leave. I had my car parked on double yellows for 30 mins so couldn't stay and in the end had to offer him the choice of staying alone or coming home with me. He came home with me but was very upset He said he was scared at the party etc. I felt so sad for him and got all emotional (far more than I normally would) and I came home and cried for an hour.
I forgot how hormonal I can be after having a child.

oh silk congratulations on the birth of Eleri Isabella!!!!

quick post before I jump in the bath

Eleri Isabella born at 1.52pm 7lb 13.5 oz. we're both fine - 2nd degree tear and a few stitches. catch up later x

Thank you all so much for your empathy with the cat situation it is awful

Silk - way to go! hope things are progressing quickly for you now.

Bunny - lovely to have you back

Just a quick post from me, hope to be back later. Poor Aaliyah has caught DS's cold and is snuffling away like a hedgehog, I feel awful for her I have propped her up in her basket and have some saline nose drops on hand if I need them but I feel so sorry for her, she is so little

Ooh silk, good luck, that all sounds great! Remember to breathe through as much as possible - if your face and muscles hunching up too much it can be because you're fighting the pain rather than 'riding' through it and it can get v tiring. Poor DHs can't do much about it; I think it's the worst bit for them. Hope to hear news soon xx

Quick message...Adam is across the room from me in his grandmother's arms. HE'S HOME!

just a quickie, good luck Silk!! hope evrything goes really well for you!

morning all

dreamy, huge congratulations and welcome to little Evie

june, huge congratulations to you too and welcome to little Calypso Sorry to heat you ended up with a cs, make sure you some BIG knickers

tee and effie, hope your little men are on their way home

lllynn, sorry you are having problems hope everything is back in full working order soon! Enjoy your cuddles with Isobel

silk, hope all goes well with you, won't be long now and you'll be holding your lo!

MrsMcJnr, sorry to hear about your poor cat hopefully the painkillers they have her on mean she isn't suffering.

laura, sorry you had a crap appointment, keep in touch with the hospital if you are at all unhappy.

I hadn't realised we had so many more girls than boys so far! Thanks for posting that.

Edward is doing really well, still sleeping well at night, usually only gets up once He's definitely awake more now, pulls some wondeful faces! He definitely knows when he's with his mummy now too. I finally got round to ordering myself some decent nursing bras, sooo much more comfortable now!

Just in case I don't get on here tomorrow, happy fathers day to all the new daddys

waves to all

Latest update mw just left. She has gone to the hospital to pick up oxygen and entonox cylinders and plans to come back between midday and one.

She did an exam - I'm 4cm and she's convinced it's all progressing well. So am I. Contractions are far stronger since she did the internal - having to really focus on getting through them now. Dh keeps saying 'are you ok?' whilst my face is screwed up in pain/concentration. feel like telling him to piss off sort of need to be left to my own devices during labour I think

Hopefully should be posting later with birht news

Bunny - sorry to hear about your sore boobs. I thoroughly recommend Lansinoh and the pads too as they don't 'stick' to your nips if you know what I mean. It does get easier (about 10 days of religious lathering of cream after every feed - don't forget or you'll suffer for it).

Agree with Ermin about the latch. I think MrsMc posted ages ago about squeezing your boob flat and 'posting' it into LO's mouth. I've been doing that and I have much more success than not. Don't forget that 'let-down' can also be a bit sore and that it might be this hurting too. Mine feels like burning prickles behind my nipples (both at the same time, regardless of which side I'm feeding on). At first I was gently pulling her off and starting again, tho it was the let-down not a bad latch that was hurting.

I had a horrendous time with DS and gave up after 10 days, I'm 17 days in with DD and it's going okay. I do wake her up sometimes for a feed if my boobs are a bit space-hopper-ish and need draining. She's more than happy to oblige most of the time!

Horrendous night last night. She screamed from 12 til 4am with trapped wind. Infacol didn't seem to even work. Off to cranial osteopath next week. Not having another night like that again!

goodness me why did that post twice lol

morning all

ermin happy due date along with me here's hoping something starts soon with us.

silk here's hoping this is it good luck hon and keep us posted if you can

bunny sorry to hear your having a hard time BF baby, like others have said why not try some nipple cream for after feeds (first timer here so no idea what i'd do too lol )

tee hopefully you're home with baby Adam enjoying all the hugs you can get xx

Well today is my due date and thro the night had some minor cramps compared to what i was having earlier in the night, and a lot of pressure on my pelvic area (maybe thats babe trying to make the Great Escape) This morning had more thick clear discarge when i went to the loo now feel really nausious (sp?) need to go shopping so hopefully the exercise will help. i think if the pains come back on strong today i'll be heading to labour ward at consultant hospital MIL is on call now as her and DH are now off for hols waiting on baby to arrive

morning all

ermin happy due date along with me here's hoping something starts soon with us.

silk here's hoping this is it good luck hon and keep us posted if you can

bunny sorry to hear your having a hard time BF baby, like others have said why not try some nipple cream for after feeds (first timer here so no idea what i'd do too lol )

tee hopefully you're home with baby Adam enjoying all the hugs you can get xx

Well today is my due date and thro the night had some minor cramps compared to what i was having earlier in the night, and a lot of pressure on my pelvic area (maybe thats babe trying to make the Great Escape) This morning had more thick clear discarge when i went to the loo now feel really nausious (sp?) need to go shopping so hopefully the exercise will help. i think if the pains come back on strong today i'll be heading to labour ward at consultant hospital MIL is on call now as her and DH are now off for hols waiting on baby to arrive

Didn't read this page!

Bunny congratulations, phew that she's not called Richinda

Re: feeding - I just went on demand, never tried to do it at certain times and tbh mine never really kept very regular hours until a few months in. It's only if you/ medics are worried about her not having enough that you'd need to wake her, normally there's no need.

Sorry to hear you've got sore nips. , Try to get all the nipple and most of the aureole in her mouth - you should be able to see the top of your aureole - and check the little muscle by her ear to see she's swallowing. (you can gently press the top of her jaw on either side of her face - by the ears - to make her open wide if she doesn't do it automatically. Do it on yourself first to see what I mean). Rub your milk in to the area after each feed, or use cream - everyone seems to recommend Lansinoh. If problems persist do call and NCT or LLL or other b/feeding counsellor who can give you personalised help.

Looouise what a shame, still, all these pre-labour signs mean you're gearing up to it. Cleaning the floors just gave me backache...

Tee hope you're coming home today with baby A

Silk hope this is it for you, though our dwindling band of ladies in waiting is making me impatient! Today is 40 wks by my dates (ie LMP) so I keep reminding myself of that. Even so, and despite not feeling in the mood at all, I've told DH he must do his conjugal duties tonight in case that helps . He didn't look too nervous, poor deprived chap.

Ineed antibiotics give me thrus too but I had a UTI a few months back and made sure I ate 2 probiotic yoghurts a day whilst taking the antibiotics and had no thrush at all. You can get tablets too. Because the antis destroy lots of the 'good' bacteria, the pros can help replace them.

Naat Our babies' early baths were always with us. One of us would get in the warm bath and the other would be there to hand baby in and take out. Because you can hold them close, which is reassuring, they took to the water very easily. Of course it is a 2-person job so not always practical but we found it a good way of starting off - easy to handle and wash the babe when you're in there too.

Zozo hope everything's going well for you today

Looouise, how are you doing?

Still here, my 'contractions' did a runner, no symptoms since, so don't worry worried, I'm probably on the homestretch til July too!

Silk - go girl go! Sorry you haven't had much sleep, but wishing you a splendid birth, keep breathing! Hope DS settles down and (ahem) the bowels perform soon...

Lauraloo - you have my sympathy. How awful to have all this pain yet be told that you're no closer. I agree with Silk keep calling the labour ward and if you something doesn't feel right, insist that they see you.

Zozo good luck! Sounds like you'll get your solstice baby!

Bunny lovely to hear your news and how besotted you are...ah. Richinda isn't the craziest name I've read on MN!
But look forward to hearing the real one when it's ready

Poor, poor you MrsMcJnr, I feel terribly sorry for you. Decisions such as these are the hardest things when you have much loved pets; your vet should have been more supportive.

Hello Ermitrude, how's that floor cleaning coming on?

good luck silk!

@ thinking Richinda was yr daughter's name Bunny sorry

Update here - called mw at 7.30 for a chat. She suggested I had a bath and rang back at 8.30. Contractions have gathered in strength since about 6ish. Now have to stop what I'm doing to breathe through them.

New on call mw has just rung and she'll pop round at 10am to have a look and see what's going on.

Will probably update later

morning ladies!!

its been ages! 1 handed reply as babe in arms. name not quite decided - we have one, but just trying it out furst. richinda is just friends being funy by merging our names.

v v v quick post from me - was discharged from hosp wed lunch (forceps = baby jaundice), so been enjoying being at home w baby and dh. we are both ab besotted w her - she is heavenly.

only prob is feeding - nipples are hammered (bleeding) despite working v hard on good latch. f bf wasn't meant to be best for her, would give it away. the pain!! will persist.

so, am i meant to wake her for feeds or go demand feeding? seems she wont eat unless she wants to. example - this is still the 5:30am feed and she wont wake or eat anymore...

so tired, back to bed, but missing you lovely juners and looking forward to poting again. v excited congrats to all us new mothers - such a wonderful month!!

Morning all. Think today might be the day Well hopeful anyway.

Bit of a shocker of a night. Dd awake from 2 til 3 - dh slept through - but I'd started having pains from about 1.30. Think they are pretty early contractions. Haven't gone away - every 12-15 minutes since. Not yet strengthening in intensity or length. The only strange thing is they are in the lower half of my bump only and I can't remember if that's normal. Have been trying to sleep/rest in between but not been easy.

Bit concerned about the fact I ate a curry last night. Mid way through dh joked that it would start labour and that I'd been bound to poo myself given the ususal laxative effects of our local takeaway. Now am desperate to evacuate my bowels!!! (sorry for tmi)

Laura - I think if you are in any doubts always ring the hospital/labour ward. They are happy to talk to people and are used to first time mums ringing up lots in the last few days. good luck

Will post later

evening all

mrsmcjnr so sorry to hear aboout Tia, I am a cat person and when i had to put the cat i had for 16 years to sleep it was the hardest thing to do...my cat was heamoraging (sp?) but i was heartbroken as i had the cat since i was 1.

Thanks everyone for your input about my consultant appointment on monday. All night I have been in agony, bump very sore and a constant period cramp at times making me double over dont think i'll sleep tonight dont know whether to call consultant ward in Paisley (25mins drive away) if pain persists

Worried - it does appear that mws all over the country work differently. I'm now being seen weekly for bp checks and urine etc. Saw a stand in mw yesterday (mine was off seeing Take That) and she told me to book again for Tues (40+4) to see reg mw and ask for a sweep. Could be cos I'm hoping for a hb which wouldn't be allowed if I went too far over.

My mw works from the GP surgery so I can ring them to book appointment. Can you do the same for end of next week and ask for a sweep if you want one?

MrsM - awful news about Tia Perhaps Spanish vets have different ideas about euthanasia. Your decision seems perfectly understandable to me given how old she is and her state of health (quite aside from the cost)

Zozokat - good luck for tomorrow's induction. Maybe as you're in pre labour they'll just need to break yr waters.

Ow I dont really know what I want to be honest, just suppose I'm a bit suprised that I wont be seen until 40+10, I guess I was expecting to be seen a bit sooner. Its like everyone else seems to have sweep dates, checks at 41 weeks etc, and I guess I was expecting the same? I dont want an induction because I want a pool birth and the midwife said today that as soon as they start the induction, they wont let me in the pool I suppose I just want my end date to be a bit nearer!

MrsMc I'd have thought a vet's job is to explain all the options and give his/her advice about which is/are the most viable. And for a 12 yr old cat with other injuries, I can imagine many of them advising putting her to sleep, to avoid further trauma.. I can't see our vet suggesting no treatment as an option . Awful situation for you and DH to think through but try not to be too wracked with guilt either; you have to think about the whole situation, including money, your DC and how easy post-op nursing care would be for you, and therefore what's best for everyone. Poor old pusscat - but she's already had a good innings, as they say, and you don't want her to suffer.

zozokat What a pain, are they worried about eclampsia? But as you say, things are starting off on their own so hopefully the induction will go smoothly. I really hope so - good luck, and how lovely to know you'll be holding your baby tomorrow

worriedamy on the list your due date is 21 June - is that right? In my area, you have a MW appt at 41 wks to check urine and blood pressure and to be offered a membrane sweep to see if that gets things moving. That's the point at which you get an induction date towards the end of the following week. Maybe that's what's going to happen at your 1 July appt?
There's not really much more anyone can do except wait, as long as you're feeling LO move and your stats are good. There's no need for internals before your due date, and the fundal measurement of 35 is no big deal - baby is probably lower down. Also it's hard to be precise about engagement but the fact your baby is engaged is the important thing. In all likelihood you'll give birth between now and 5 July anyway. But you could always ask them to move the 1 Jul appt a few days earlier with a view to having a sweep?

Oh Mrsmc this is so sad . Sounds like yourself and DH have thought things through and decided it best to be kind to Tia and not put her through any more pain. Then the bloody vet makes the decision even more difficult for you. I don't know what else to say but that if you have made your decision they should respect it...

Sorry to hear about those of you that have had disappointing MW appointments today.

Laura - it really sounded like you were on your way. I really hope you get some sound advice from the consultant on Monday. Its horrible not knowing what is going on but you will have that baby soon enough 1 way or another.

oh no mrsmcjnr, your poor cat

Choccie – you didn’t offend me hon it’s just my hormones working overtime. We have to put our birth registration application before a judge, crazy!

Poor you Laura, not what you were wanting to hear at all. I hope all becomes clearer when you see the consultant.

Zozokat – hope you beat that induction and if not, I hope you have a really positive experience and we look forward to your news.

Silkcushion, Ermintrude and Worriedamy – sending labour vibes

The milk guzzler is calling me, have a good night everyone

Cat update This morning the vet told us that Tia was up to the op but it would be 1100 euros plus there would be recuperation time and all the risks operations and anaesthetics entail. Ian and I felt really torn, Tia is 12 years old, has snapped her Achilles in both back legs, is overweight and we are not insured here (she is too old for cover) plus we have the two children to look after and it would be hard to look after an immobile cat too plus she may go and do something like this again. Those are all scenarios based on if the surgery went well. If we were in the UK, insured we’d not have to weigh it all up but frankly it is a lot of money and we cannot afford it. So we decided that we would have to have her put to sleep . The vet wouldn’t hear of it and told Ian that they would treat her for 5 days with pain killers and see if she could learn to hobble on 3 legs, if she can they expect us to bring her home like that. Ian and I are horrified, the thought of knowing your pet has broken bones and not fixing them seems incredibly cruel. So we are stuck in this horrible place with the vet thinking we don’t care enough about Tia to foot the bill. Really horrible.

Hello everyone- back into the world of internet again after it went down again yesterdat ...

Fingers crossed looouise-- hope things are picking up steam for you!!

Congrats to Dreamy, and to June- how interesting that your baby was 7lb, and not as big as predicted. Very annoying that they can change all what you had hoped for on an obviously inaccurate presumption!! But all that must seem like ages ago to you now?!

MrsMcJnr-- your poor little cat ow, that makes me so sad poor little thing hope he gets better soon

zozokat-- hopefully your induction will go very smoothly, and this time tomorrow you may have your little baby in your arms!! At least you know you haven't got to wait too long?

lauraloo-- you must be so frustrated I'm sure if they find that the small pelvis thing (excuse my ignorance!!) is inherited in you that at least you will have a date for a caesarean that you can aim towards and it takes away the hooooooorible uncertainty of waiting!?!?

I went to visit the midwife today, rather disheartened tbh She measured me, and I am only measuring 35 weeks... only one week more than I was two weeks ago, but she didn't think this was anything to worry about. But was disheartened as the next time I am going to see anyone (in the day unit at the hospital) is the 1st of July so if I don't go in to labour, it will be another two weeks before anyone has a look at me. Then the day unit will assess me and probably book me in for an induction 4 days after that... the 5th of July. JULY!! Grrrr, July is friging ages away I had always been building my hopes up to have this baby in June, and now the possibility of it being July, oh it seems so far away I don't think I can go that long without sleep, I'll go mad!! But I was suprised that no-one is going to see me for another two weeks- is this normal?? I have never had a internal, never even had one suggested. No mention of a sweep at all in the two weeks for going into the day unit. Not even a check up in the mean time. All you ladies seem to be really clued up on how 'ready' for labour you are... the midwife today couldn't even tell me how engaged he was, just that he was! Just a bit worried?? Ow, I just want it to happen now... (self pitying wimper)

Hi all

just a quick update from me as i've been away i still need to read up on the thread!

June and Dreamy, congratulations on the arrival of your little ones Calypso and Evie!! hope you're all doing very well!

Looooouise sounds like good progress, fingers crossed for you! (Also hoping for a solstice baby -- for silly reasons really -- but still hoping

Silk, Worriedamy and Ermintrude hope you're hanging in there!

Lauraloo so sorry to hear this -- seems so last-minute too, how disheartening

Here's my latest update: had a sweep yesterday (at the lovely, calm Birth Centre where I was registered) and was up most of the night with lots of irregular but painful contractions/show etc. -- but had to go the dreaded antenatal clinic this morning due to high blood pressure and irregular blood test…

So, even though I'm in pre-labour now, I'm scheduled to go in for an induction tomorrow morning so no lovely birth centre experience for me either. Hopefully the induction won't be too grim since I'm already 'on my way' so to speak. Bye for now everyone!!

lauraloo sorry to hear that. The wonderfully named 'android pelvis' can be inherited - it's all about the size of the pelvic opening and nothing to do with 'childbearing hips' at all. Mention it to the MW and consultant, definitely, because they should be able to assess your pelvic opening, even scan if necessary - and of course you can then voice your concerns and discuss CS at the same time. Meanwhile, remember that babies can engage late on and the fact it was 3/5 before is still promising. Lack of cervical effacement just means you're not ready for labour yet, nothing to do with the engagement.

My MW was v nice on the phone when we provisionally booked me a sweep on Weds, when I'll be a week overdue. She said after 2 spontaneous labours it's v unlikely I'll need an induction. Hope she wasn't just being nice . Floor cleaning hasn't done anything yet!

Oh Laura, so sorry to hear that. I second silk in asking the consultant on Monday so as to know what to expect and therefore, prepare yourself. (((hug)))

Laura - what a nightmare. you must be totally pissed off. Definitely ask consultant on Monday about the possibilities of a cs so you can be fully prepared. This all seems a bit ott doesn't it? You're not due until tomorrow and I thought it was possible for babies to engage really late on. Although I suppose if your pelvis is too small it would be best to know in advance and have a cs rather than have a prolonged and difficult labour ending in an emcs.

afternoon all - no baby here and doesn't look like there will be one for a while yet

Went to midwife and was seen by a midwife who is a family friend. I described what happened yesterday wrt my show and she advised it most def was my show and as i had been having a lot of pain she decided to do a sweep. She started to do it and she said she couldn;t even reach the neck of the womb so labour hadn't started. she then palpated me and told me that after 1 month of being told baby was 3 5ths engaged that baby was high and free so now i have a consultant appointment on monday afternoon and i have been moved from low risk to high risk so no birth in the midwife unit for me now. If baby's head isn't engaged on monday they wont do anymore sweeps and they can't risk induction.

Just found out today from my mum that myself and my two older brothers were section babies as her pelvis was too small for the baby to pass thro, with my oldest brother she was in established labour for 12 hours with his head not engaging before they did a section on her it was after the birth they found she had a small pelvis, could this be hereditory? Should I bring up the subject of a section with the consultant on monday....also I am highly tempted just to ask for a section, if i were to do this how likely would it be that i could have a section??

Sorry for the me post - just very disheartened by today after all the pain i had last night/this morning i thought everything was going to 'kick off'

Laura - how did it go at the mw? Or can't you answer cos yr in the labour ward now?

MrsM - what on earth are you going to do? 1100 euros is a fortune

Oh Mrsmc what a predicament with your cat. I really feel for you having to deal with all of this on top of 2 little ones. e1100 sounds a lot of money but I know at the same time that its hard to put a price on pets that you love.I hope things work out for you. (((hugs))).

So sorry about the joke about the Spanish authorities. I really didn't mean to upset you and totally understand how frustrating it all is. Try not to worry though, I am sure it will all settle down soon. Has anyone been able to give you advice on how to get Aaliyahs birth registered? Have you got to have the tests done?

SOOO tired, Aaliyah fed every 2 hours through the night for an hour I guess the heat will be making her thirstier too.

A weird thing and I wonder if any of you 2nd and subsequent Mums are noticing this, not only do my boobs leak when they “hear” DD cry but also when DS does very leaky lady!

Oh Laura sounds really promising the day DS was born my contractions started in the night like yours and I had a consultant’s appointment at 12 and I saw that as a great aim to go and see her and see how I was progressing (I was doing well 4cms at midday – DS was born at 5pm) hope it works that way for you too, everything crossed.

June – congratulations hon!! Fabulous news, welcome to Mummyhood Calypso was 7lbs hey? What did that BC know!

Littlesarah – twice nightly feeds would be great what an academic day, enjoy and good luck

Choccie – don’t joke I was crying last night because I was worried someone would try and take my baby away hormones hey?

Dreamy – yay! many congratulations on the birth of Evie Rose a blonde hey?

Ohh Loouise sounding hopeful!

Hey ladies in waiting – hope you are all ok hope we hear from the other girls on the list who have been absent for a while, especially StrawberrySam would be so relieved to hear of the safe arrival of her baby.

Update on my cat – surgery is going to cost 1100 euros – gulp don’t have it but will need to try and find it. They want us to call around and see if we can find a vet who will do it cheaper but my cat is so old, so fat and has had previous leg injuries, trying hard to assess all aspects with my head all hormonal

Oh! Laura and Loouise, hope this is it for you girls!!!

Hi Juners!

Quick post just to say

Congratulations June!!! So happy for you that you have your baby Calypso in your arms now!!! Hope to hear from you soon.

Congratulations Dreamy!! Wow, that was a quick one As choccie said, hope you managed to get a bed

Thank you Ermin Mrsmc and LittleS for your advice re.expressing. Good that you told me, I would have got a bit carried away by it otherwise Mila had no painful wind incident during the night, she managed to pass some wind while DH was trying to burp her so phew! Let's hope this goes on...

Hello to all lovely Juners! Will try and catch up properly soon (((waves)))

Congratulations Dreamy on the safe arrival of Evie Rose (just in the nick of time by the sound of things)! Glad she's being surrounded by so much sibling love! Hope they're helping out lots and you're getting plenty of rest xx

June - absolutely delighted for you, well done, and welcome to Calypso Lilly. Looking forward to hearing more details, so pleased you went into spontaneous labour xxx

Lauraloo let us know how you get on with midwife, it does sound promising. Wishing you luck and love xx

I have had some developments, though loathed to think I'm actually getting started...woke up at 5 with mild-to-moderate waves of period pain (ha, sounds like the weather forecast), seemed to be about 5 mins apart. I took some paracetamol as was desperate to sleep more to save energy...they kicked in a bit more sporadically at 11am, but not with the same regularity. And no sightings of any show though I'm really hoping for a solstice baby, but it could be another week of nonsense, recalling Daisy's experience...

Ermitrude, Silk, Worried and Zozo hope you're all busy and not getting too pissed off

I wouldn't say all of them are getting stronger but there are the odd ones that kinda take my breath away and make me feel like i need the loo but the regularity i had earlier is kinda gone now i just hope i see a helpful midwife today who will examine me

how are those contractions going Laura? Are they getting stronger?

silk I thought insy had her baby as i remember the Bear nickname hopefully I have done this right now - note to self do not try and update things in the middle of a contraction lol

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - Mila Maunier weighing 3.255kg and measuring 51cm 14th june 2.53 pm
chocciedooby - Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
Daisy- Fraser Alistair was born Monday 15th June 2009 at 10:08pm. A handsome chap, he weighs in at a tidy 7lbs 13.5oz (3.56kg) and is 56cm long.
insywinsyspider - Boy Edward (Bear) 16th June 2009 7am
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009) (34, 1st one!)
June2009 - calypso lilly raphaelle 18th June, 7lbs!!
dreamydowler - Evie Rose born 17th June 4.50pm 8lb 2oz

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
silkcushion - 19th June (34, dd 17m)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

Laura something's gone wrong with the list cos Insy had her little Bear earlier this week.

It was added to the list early and now has gone. I've tried to change it but am so completely useless I buggered the whole thing up and gave up.

Are you able to do it? Inbetween your contractions I mean

Ask the mw to have a look at midday as it sounds like labour has started - you might be like I was first time round and have yr baby on it's due date

Dreamy great news, congratulations - I love Evie Rose; am v impressed with the names on this thread. Sounds like you got to the hospital just in time - phew!

So far 7 boys to 13 girls!

Congratulations Dreamy. Love the name. Very pretty. Hope you managed to deliver on a delivery bed!

Stepping into tee's and daisy's shoes here - here's hoping i've done this right

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - Mila Maunier weighing 3.255kg and measuring 51cm 14th june 2.53 pm
chocciedooby - Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
Daisy- Fraser Alistair was born Monday 15th June 2009 at 10:08pm. A handsome chap, he weighs in at a tidy 7lbs 13.5oz (3.56kg) and is 56cm long.
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009) (34, 1st one!)
June2009 - calypso lilly raphaelle 18th June, 7lbs!! (7th June (32, 1st baby) DH guess 5th June, my guess 14th June)
dreamydowler - Evie Rose born 17th June 4.50pm 8lb 2oz

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
insywinsyspider - 18th June (28 ds1 3,ds2 18mo) my guess 21st June
silkcushion - 19th June (34, dd 17m)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

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Congratulations Dreamy and welcome to Evie Rose (agree another lovely name) Sounds like you made it to hospital in the nick of time

You lot are little monkeys! Hardly a word on the thread all day yesterday until I go to bed early and you all come out chattering

MrsM - terrible news about Tia hope it goes ok at the vets today. Flipping Spanish authorities eh?

June - congratulations and hello to little Calypso (very exotic name)

Laura - definitely sounds promising this morning.

Thinking Dreamy must have produced baby number 8 by now as we've not heard from her.

Erm - it'll just be the two of us left soon

Well yesterday's waddling and spicy curry did nothing. I have been struck down with apathy now. Have considered another walk or maybe a swim. But so far can't even be bothered to put the washing on!!

Need a virtual kick up the arse please.

oh dreamy congratulations and hello to baby Evie Rose - what is it with all these beautiful names we juners are picking Hope mum and baby are doing well xx

good morning ladies Havent had time to catch up but just wanted to let you know that Evie Rose was born 20 minutes after arriving at hospital on wednesday 17th at 4 50 pm She weighed 8lb 2 oz has lots of blonde hair and is feeding well. She is of course totally gorgeous and her brothers and sisters are all totally in love with her xxxx
congratulations to anyone else that has delivered in my absence and good luck to everyone still waiting xx

oh june what a lovely name and congratulations on the birth of Calypso bet you'll be happy it's all over now

Well pains have calmed a bit, was able to get back to sleep at 7.30 but up every 15mins again but i really needed to try and sleep, at the worst of the pains during the night they were coming every 5-10 mins and lasting for about 30 secs the pain was both period type cramp and a very sore pain at the top of the bump like a severe tightening. Had a bit more discharge there when i went to loo so hopefully midwife can advise what is happening...think it is time to put hospital bags in car so whereever i am i will always have the bags with me

Congratulations June Well done girl. You must be over the moon. Can't wait to hear your details. Hope you are getting some rest now.

Laura - How are the pains? I really do think you will have your baby in the next 24 hours. Let us know how you get on at the MWs.

Tee - Great that Adam had a breast feed. Really hope you get him home tomorrow.

Mrsmc - Hope you have a better day today. Any news on the cat? Have the authorities found the parents of that baby girl yet that was born in your apartment?! .

Congrats to June, llynnn and Choccie*!

*Choccie - Great birth story! Well done lady!

llynnn - I hope you get your ability to wee back soon !

MrsMcJnr - Ugh what a dreadful day you had! I can't believe they won't register Aaliyah! Bastards.

Naat - I really feel you with the huge rock hard breasts! I was exactly the same and also expressed a little, ermin is right though, don't over do it! It does calm down in a day or two. I had forgotten and got very concerned but it is far better now. Although they still get pretty hard... I have no good advice about wind I'm afraid, but I can say that everything about babies is a phase, absolutely everything!

It looks like Alex is now a twice a night waker which is nice. About 3/4am and then 6.30am... just about manageable. And the latch is much improved, still stings at first but pretty comfortable now.

Right, off to dd's 'graduation' from nursery... then later should get final uni results... ahhhh!

Will hopfully do a proper catch-up this weekend.

June many congratulations and what a wonderful name. Welcome to little Calypso and look forward to hearing all about it once you've had time to rest and get some sleep

Lauraloo still sounding promising. If the contractions are painful - not agonising, but to the extent that you need to stop and 'breathe through' them - then that's a good sign. I'm definitely going to clean the bathroom and toilet floors today.

Naat It's great that your milk's coming in - maybe the change will help Mila's wind. One tiny word of warning: don't express too much at first, because it's sending your breasts a message that you need more milk, and until your supply has settled there is a risk that you might get too engorged. Get Mila to feed as much as she can and you'll produce the right amount for her. Once the pair of you have got that sorted it's easier to assess how much expressing you need to do depending on whether you're building up a freezer-full or just planning on DH giving her the odd bottle at some point.

Tee so glad Adam took to the breast

Congratulations june!

I think this list is up to date now...but I could be wrong.

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - Mila Maunier weighing 3.255kg and measuring 51cm 14th june 2.53 pm
chocciedooby - Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
Daisy- Fraser Alistair was born Monday 15th June 2009 at 10:08pm. A handsome chap, he weighs in at a tidy 7lbs 13.5oz (3.56kg) and is 56cm long.
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009) (34, 1st one!)
June2009 - calypso lilly raphaelle 18th June, 7lbs!! (7th June (32, 1st baby) DH guess 5th June, my guess 14th June)

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
daisy5 - 6th June (42, dd) guess Friday 29th May
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
dreamydowler - 16th June
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
insywinsyspider - 18th June (28 ds1 3,ds2 18mo) my guess 21st June
silkcushion - 19th June (34, dd 17m)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

hey! Little calypso lilly raphaelle was born yesterday i had a caesarian after a bit of a long labour ... Almost 24 hours. Story will come when i figured out how to connect my laptop! Will be in hospital for a few days... Absolutely ecstatic . Oh and my big baby is just 7 pounds !!!

tee unfortunately i'm still at home starting to time contractions and hoping it's not just intense BH

I meant to say yesterday i'm glad that Adam is feeding better now and hopefully will be home with you and DH soon x

laura sounds like you are on your way! Maybe even having the baby right now! Good luck, mummy.

morning juners hope you have all had a good nights sleep unlike yours truely here

Finally for to sleep at 1 only to be woken at 4.45 with really painful period pains. Still got the pains and they are coming every so often so i suppose i better start timing them . I have a midwife appointment at 12 so hopefully i can hold off until i see her but after so many false alarms i'm worried that this could be another one do you think if i tell midwife i had a show yesterday she will examine me to see if I have started to at least dilate?

I really hope that no news from june is good news and she is holding her LO in her arms, after the bother she has had she deserves this

Naat – lovely to hear from you well done again! It’s best just to think from feed to feed the pattern seems to change everyday in the early weeks. I really feel for you on the crying, my DS was like that, it was awful and exhausting, we started on infacol and that made quite a difference. That and walking around with him upright massaging his back.

Wow Choccie that was some sleep your LO let you have lovely to read your birth story, I know what you mean about the pushing stage, you finally get to do something that helps the pain congratulations again on your surprise girl when Aaliyah was born and DH and I were sitting there in the bathroom with her, it was about 5 mins before he sat up and said “we’d better check she is a girl after that friend of yours on MN” so I checked and sure enough she was I passed a huge clot with DS, think it was part of the membranes as they were ragged and this time I bleed heavily for the first 5 days (dripping all over the floor when I stood up – sorry if TMI) they had to change my bed completely in hospital twice due to the blood but here I am day 9 and I seem to have stopped bleeding completely with DS I am sure it was weeks?

Go June go June !

Tee – great news on Adam taking the bottle hope you get him home tomorrow!

Silkcushion – hope you enjoyed that walk down memory lane

Worriedamy – NO hon, don’t read that scary stuff before bed!! Read the fun stuff and think about the smell of your baby’s hair and the expressions on his/her little face and how much he/she will adore you those things are so much nicer.

Hey Ermintrude and Looouise and Laura – hope you are hanging in there and not getting too fed up! Remember I did a big scrub of the house the day before Aaliyah arrived

Zozokat – can’t believe some of those comments!

Llynnn – congratulations on little Isobel, what a positive induction story, should make all those worrying about it feel better sorry about the bladder issues though, you poor thing

Ineedmore – poor you try to get as much rest as you can, your body needs some time to recoup.

Thanks for all your lovely, supportive messages

Hi Juners!

Thanks to all who gave me some advice re. Mila's problem with wind. I'm putting it all into practice as of now! I know it's not what people call colic itself as they tend to happen at the same time and last hours on end, and this is not Mila's case, but well, it's definitely trapped wind. This afternoon she had no problem passing it and did it but then in the evening we had another 15min session of pain until one came out. I'm hoping she doesn't have one during the night

Today I tried some milk expressing as my boobs were HUGE and rock hard... I expressed 70ml in 30 mins! So I guess that's the milk coming I was literally dripping while massaging them to make them a bit softer so I thought expressing a bit was the way to go...

Catching up now.

mrsmc, so so sorry to hear about your cat. It brought tears to my eyes as I can imagine how you feel! We have a cat in Arg. and leaving her there was the hardest thing, even though she's with a friend of ours. I can't believe the daftness of the Spaniards re. the baby's registration. Unbelievable, really. I'm so angry for you, hope they come into senses and register her soon.

Choccie, great birth story!! You must be so proud of yourself! You should be Well done you! Elina is a lovely name

Laura, yay on the show! Hope things get kicking soon!!

June, I'm having everything crossed here for no news to be great news and that you already have LO in your arms!

Loouise, I know what you mean, the last days seem endless! And it seems like everything you do ends up in you thinking about the baby and labour Hope things kick in soon

Ineed, so sorry to hear about the pain and the infection. Hope those antibiotics work soon.

Silk, hoping the curry does the trick for you tonight I asked the MW today when she came and she told me not to eat any more dried apricots (I was eating 4 dried ones a day to help with n° 2, as I was terrified of going to the toilet after the tear) She also suggested a warm bath (but I haven't given Mila her first one yet) so let's see, for the moment I'm following the Juners' advice.

Llynn, hi! Congratulations on the birth of Isobel, she's gorgeous!!!

Hello to all the rest of the Juners!!! sending birthing vibes to all of those still waiting!

Hey all

Sorry I've not been around. Obviously doing a lot of running back and forth to the hospital! Adam took his first proper breast feed tonight, so he'll be home before long!

I hope everyone is doing well. Congratulations to anyone I missed who might have given birth over the last few days!

Get cracking to the rest of you...especially erm...::flees::

Hey choccie - nope, this LO is still cooking. I'm actually not too bothered since I know I'm on the home run and the other two were late (and by the date of my last period the due date is actually 20th; they changed it at the 12 wk scan). I'm not getting much done though - was about to scrub floors and then found one of the cats had left bits of bird on the kitchen lino and once I'd cleaned that up I felt a bit sick so used that as an excuse to do very little.

MrsMc if they thought it might not be your baby shouldn't they be interested in finding out whose it actually is? . What tosh! So sorry about your cat. If it's a complex injury which might involve a lot of surgery then it's not just a question of money but of what it's worth putting a pet through. I don't mean to sound callous - when our cat nearly lost her eye I was in bits and cried at the vets - but sometimes that's what the decision comes down to. Also, cats can manage on 3 legs... Really hope they can fix her though, and that you have a better day with DS tomorrow.

Hey lauraloo and silk

Mrsmc - at the Spanish registry system. What a bloody palava now....I hope you manage to get things sorted.

Sorry to hear about your poor cat I would be really upset about that. I hope you get a good outcome at the vets tomorrow.

DS will be ok. He is just maybe kicking off for a little attention. The same thing has been happening here and it is hard but a little bit of time each day set aside for just mummy and ds will work wonders. I am also making sure that I am not always seen to be holding baby in arms as I know DS2 is getting a wee bit jealous.

Laura - sounds like you will have your baby very soon. That was definately your show earlier. Maybe you will go to bed tonight and be woken by things starting to kick off? Thats what happened with my dc2. I had no pains before bed and woke at 1am with one big pain and knew that was it. Good Luck!

Ineed - so sorry to hear about your infection. I hope they get things sorted out for you. Our bodies have to cope with soooo much.

Silk - won't be long for you either.Hang in there. You will soon have your lo.

Ermin - I'm thinking of you as you were my due date buddy Did you go scrub the floor? Thanks for your words re: blood loss etc. When I went to the toilet in the hospital and "delivered" "something" into the loo I was bleeding so much that I had to keep wiping with paper and the toilet was stuffed so I didn't see what had actually fallen out. Probably a good thing really. I will never know. I have not had anything like that since, no major clots or anything just lots of red dripping blood (sorry tmi).Thinking back I was the same with other 2 dcs so will just keep an eye on things for now.

Many Congratulations Lynnn on the birth of Isobel Thanks for your birth story.
Sorry to hear about the bladder problems. We woman really are troupers with what we have to deal with eh!

Naat - sorry to hear about your los pains I know how heartbreaking it can be. Hope you get it sorted soon.

Loooouise - Looking forward to hearing news from you. Glad you liked my birth story. Just remember - Keep an open mind to labour. Everyone is different, every pregnancy, every labour. I was adamant that I was to get the epidural and made it my dhs one job on the day. He did his job and the dr arrived to administer the drug. I didn't need it. I did not EVER believe I could deliver a child into this world without the "big injection". I have a low pain threshold, am screamish at the best of times etc etc but when it came down to it I could not ignore what my body was telling me to do and it was completely natural to go with it.
Who knows, maybe if I dilated more slowly I would have had the jab again and then would have ended up in labour far longer. And I would never have got to experience child birth other than on my back! Good Luck.

mrsmcjnr sorry to hear about your rubbish day and that your DS is acting up just now, maybe behaving like this for attention after arrival of DD. So to hear about your cat esp when you need to decide what to do about op as it is going to be expensive...and the spanish registery system must be full of idiots for not registering the birth, i mean it wasn't your fault you didn't give birth at the hospital, hopefully they will see sense and have the birth registered asap xx

MrsMcJnr to read about your totally shitty day, particularly about your darling cat. You poor, poor thing. I wish I could offer you some advice, but the Spanish civil registry system sounds like lunacy.
You don't need all this right now. ((Sending hugs and hair strokes))
xx

Tricky day today my DS is really playing up, slapping me, kicking me, constantly screeching, very trying and tiring, I want my fun little boy back I don’t think he is feeling great but maybe part of this is a reaction to Aaliyah, makes me sad also my cat Tia who I have had for 12 years managed to escape the patio last night. She is a housecat so knows nothing of traffic etc. Anyway, I had a bad night wondering where she was and worrying about her and this morning I searched the grounds for her and put up a missing notice, within an hour a guy came to the door saying he’d seen her downstairs, she must have been hit by a car as her leg is broken in 2 places and she may have internal injuries. It must have happened after I’d looked for her. She is at the vet’s tonight and is stable but tomorrow we have to assess things and decide if she is up to a long and difficult op to mend her leg. The awful thing is that money also comes into it, we were insured in the UK but not here and the costs are already over 100 euros and we have been told the surgery will be very expensive on top of that, the Civil Registry refused to register Aaliyah’s birth today arguing that because she wasn’t born in the hospital they did not know for sure she was mine I argued that the ambulance men cut her cord and assisted me with the placenta and could vouch for that but they wouldn’t have it, my application has to go before a judge and they may want a proof of maternity test, can you believe this country??

Sorry to share all that how are you all? Any more babies?

evening all

ineed sorry to hear about the infection and hope the antibiotics work for you x

silk it has been pretty quiet here today, hope other juners are in the process of giving birth

Well since having my show all the cramping and twinges i've had over the weeks have faded...I was hoping they would have got worse only thing that has been happening is i need to wee a lot more than usual, at least 5 toilet trips in an hour...really hope something starts soon

Ineed - I'm really sorry to hear this hope the antibiotics kick in quickly.

Thread is quiet today. I expect everyone else is having babies [self pitying emoticon] I've just been to a local pub with dh and dd for his birthday and eaten a fairly hot thai green curry! Can't face sex so will just have that as today's effort to get my sticky baby out.

Well, to top everything off, I've now got a secondary infection in my womb (happened with DS too, though that time I ended up back in hospital on IV antibiotics for two days).

Felt rough as arses this morning with dragging pains in my stomach, a temp and my bleeding started again last night (had stopped to almost nothing for about a week.

Saw a lovely doctor (another one - seems doctor evil is a one off!) who prescribed me two lots of antibiotics. So looks like I can look forward to some more thrush in a couple of weeks..... isn't childbirth great!?!

Will try to catch up now!

Laura - sounds like a show to me too! not that i ever had one! hope this is finally it for you!

Naat - congratulations on the birth of Mila (beautiful name) dd1 had trouble with wind, i found gently rubbing her stomach in a clockwise way helped a little or when she is lying on her back make bicycle movements with her legs in the air iyswim! hope that helps!

Daisy - congratulations on the birth of Fraser, another gorgeous name! Hope you are both doing well

Insy - congratulations of the birth of Edward! great news!

Tee - really pleased to hear Adam is doing well, hope you have him home now

Bunnymother - congratulations on the birth of your daughter (do you have a name yet?) the pictures are just adorable

Nemo - congratulations on the birth of Charlotte Isabel!

Choccie - great birth story and congratulations on the birth of Elina (lovely name!), pleased you had such a good experience. not sure about the bleeding, mine was really heavy for the first few days but has already slowed down to a normal period amount. Great news about the good nights sleep too, long may it continue! Isobel seems to think that from 10pm-4am its feeding time and feeds constantly

June - hope from the lack of posts that you are meeting your little one now!
Loouise - the overdue hours are VERY hard to fill! i was 11days late in the end and it does drag! i just kept myself busy and did all the things i wouldnt beable to do now baby is here (met friends for lunch, watched old/cheesy films etc!) hope ity happens for you soon

Mrsmcjnr - your pictures are gorgeous! such beautiful children. lol at the stupid things people say when u r heavily pregnant!

doris - hope your dd2 is ok and its not chicken pox

Effie - hope the rooming in goes well and you get Rupert home asap

Ineed - hope you are feeling better now and the cream/tablet are helping

Hi to everyone I've missed and sorry if I've got anyhting wrong, all those still waiting I hope it happens really soon and you can enjoy cuddles with your little bundles. I was 11 days overdue and it DID happen so dont lose faith!!

Laura - does sound like another show which is promising. I had one a week before, then more on the day when labour started. MW doesn't need to know but tis a good sign.

Naat - sorry to hear yr lo is having probs with wind. Ask the MW when she next visits or have you got a hv you can ring?

Llynn - congratulations on the birth of Isobel. Nightmare about the weeing problems though (never heard of that before with a vaginal birth) Hope things improve soon

Ermin - I too am going stir crazy. MW appt went well ie bp is fine, lo is engaged still, heartbeat good etc. MW suggested sweep next Tuesday at 40 + 4.

Distraction techniques? I have been excellent at this for the last 4 weeks since finishing work. Write a to do list for the week/day and plough through it. However, have pretty much run out of things to do and motivation in the last few days. Jsut picked up a chick lit book to read (recommend mind numbing activities) and have started watching a load of crap on Sky (not usually a big tv watcher). Dd is still in nursery everyday as we decided to not disrupt her routine but I am dropping her much alter and picking her up earlier so that make the time to fill shorter

Hello to everyone else

thanks ermin wonder if bending over the bath scrubbing it helped bring on the show lol going to try and keep active and hopefully something will happen

I really hope that no news from june is good news would be great if she could avoid the dreaded induction!

PS: Hmm, maybe I should scrub that bathroom floor after all....

lauraloo yep, that's your show, and a lot of mucus plug too by the sound of it. Yum! .

Now, with my second labour I lost my plug at 12 noon, called my DH at 2.30pm and plopped DS out at 5.30, just in time for the MWs to catch him. But some people can have a big show days before contractions start. So unless your waters break or your contractions really get going you don't have to call labour ward or MWs - but if you're uncertain just do it, they won't mind - and they'll advise.

Good luck, it's all on the move!

hiya well not sure if things are moving on for me but i think so...TMI ALERT

Just went to toilet for a wee and when i wiped there was a lot (i mean a LOT) of thick clear discharge like someone had sneezed badly. When I wiped again there was a big dollop of discharge which is unmistakably brown in colour could this be my show?? i know i thought i had my show weeks ago but the amount of discharge then was tiny in comparison to what I have just had...could some of the mummies help with this?! I know midwifes need to know when waters break but do i need to let them know about the show??

Good to hear your story lynnn and very pleased to hear little Isobel is doing well. Tough luck with your bladder problems though . Hope that's sorted and you can wee normally again soon!

Naat Does Mila's tummy feel very hard when she's crying, and does she draw up her knees towards her tummy? Those can be signs of colic, which can give LOs a lot of pain. It's most common for colic sufferers to have one bout, usually early evening time, but they don't always follow the same pattern. There are things like Gripe Water which pharmacists can give you but it's not usually a good idea to give newborns anything apart from milk. If she's well winded it could just be her digestive system getting into the swing of things, especially dealing with milk coming in..? But if it persists MW/HV should advise. I know lots of people who swear by cranial therapy although I've never used it. Hope she settles soon, and try not to get too upset by the crying - sometimes they can make a heck of a noise which is more protest than pain.

lauraloo I meant to clean bathroom and toilet but have somehow managed not to bother . I'm so lazy, even though I'm feeling stir-crazy.

No sign of June - must be good news, I hope.

lynnnn congrats on baby isobel and thank you for sharing your induction/birth story shame you were in hospital for a few days but at least your home now and glad to hear baby is doing well

worriedamy I'm in Scotland and nowhere near London but I am hoping to get down for the meet-up depending on train/flight prices

Well just spent about 40 mins cleaning bathroom which is surprising because it is so small lol think i'll go for a walk today and try and get baby out...been having niggly pains and cramps again so hopfully cleaning/walking will help

Any news on june yet?!?!?!

hi all

I'm finally out of hospital and can make an attempt to catch up!

My beuatiful baby girl, Isobel, was born on saturday morning at 00:16, weighing 8lb 10oz. she looks just like her dad and has lots of lovely auburn hair!

I went in to be induced on friday morning were they tried a pessary at 11am, by 6pm nothing had happened so they then checked i was 3cm dialated so they broke my waters. My 7pm i was having full on contractions every 5mins, it happened so quickly! My 10pm I had been using my tens machine and the gas and air and was the contractions were coming every couple of minutes and were really strong. the midwife checked me and i was fully dilated!! she gave me some pethedine for the pain (which really worked!!) and i started pushing. this seemed to last forever and as i had to have the monitor on (prev csection!) couldnt really move much, but finally my little girl was born just after midnight. I had torn a little so have a few stitches but they arent giving me any problems at all.

The reason I have been in hospital all week though is that I cant wee!! just before i was going to be discharged at saturday lunchtime i realised i hadnt been to the loo. I mentioned it to the midwife who said i would have to keep trying before i could go, by 4pm still nothing and my stomach hurt so much as my bladder was so full. they had to put in a catheter to drain the water (there was almost 3litres drained !!) but i still couldnt go, they they kept me in with a catheter for 24hours then a further 36hours to rest the bladder, which still hasnt worked. they finally let me out yesterday but i have a catheter in now for 2 weeks. I have to go back to the ward on 1st july to have it removed and hopefully things will be normal again. Its just awful, i feel like an old lady with a bag strapped to my leg and dont feel like i want visitors or to go out anywhere. i cant wait until this part of it is over

Isobel is doing really well though, just had her weighed again and she has only lost 40grams, she is feeding well, even though it is constant!! but she is beautiful, settled and content. dd1 seems to have taken to her welll so far too and wants to help out and cuddle her all the time (hope it stays that way!)

Anyway, sorry for boring you all. i'll have a read back now to catch up with all your news. Hope everyone is well x

Hello!

I need the help of experienced and wise Juners, ladies

Mila is feeding quite well, I can't complain, nipples are tender but she has been good and not cracked them or hurt them badly

She burps after feeding, so no problems there.

However, she has a very hard time passing wind. She's getting the usual (according to the MW) "runny gas" or "gas with a gift" but she spends a long time trying to pass it and cries desperately. She has about 3 or 4 of those episodes a day and her voice is so hoarse now because of them and how she cries.

I'm not going to go into how bad that makes me feel and how much I want to cry every time it happens, as I know it's the hormones and bla... but

can anyone give me any tips to help her through this? Has anyone had a similar experience?

Thanks lovely Juners!

I'm up in the North West, so no where near London unfortunately.

oops sorry meant to say Ineed yes i'm in London. definitely up for meet-up though we'll be away for most of September (have planned a long 'meet the baby' road trip around the east coast of Canada/US to see the relatives!)

June how exciting, good luck!!! and how fab if you have avoided the induction!!

MrsMcJnr wow can't believe some of the lines you've gotten -- 'is the baby still alive' ??? At 7 months when I ran into a colleague at a conference and he blurted out 'is it twins?' almost immediately (so i must have looked enormous? or was he presuming IVF due to my age? either way, ouch). My mum was also asked point-blank by one of our neighbours, 'is the baby in-vitro?' -- i was 36 at the time. also ouch!

So great to read your birth story choccie, last minute avoidance of epidural, very well done!! and she sounds like an angel!

Silk, good luck with mw appointment! off to mine v soon…

Worriedamy i got my DH a cute little father's day card from the baby, but he accidentally unearthed it while looking for something on my desk the other night.

loooouise among other things i'm hanging out a bit too much on MN, twitter and facebook

Fingers crossed to all of us ladies in waiting, and hope the new mums are doing well!

loooouise-- its hard trying to picture how something will pan out when you have NO idea isn't it!! I haven't got a clue... never really had period pains so haven't got a clue what contractions will feel like if/ when they start happening!! Got my hopes up a bit last night when I was getting those shooting pains but with BH at the same time... but looks like I had just overdone it cleaning the bathroom and doing a tidgy bit of ironing.

Morning ladies! Still here

June I have got everything crossed for you, I wish you a great delivery so much, you've been so brave and put up with so much rubbish, you deserve this!! Looking forward to hearing happy news soon xxx

Naat lovely update, human milk machine!

Choccie that's fab story, again, I can't reiterate how useful it is for us first timers to hear your stories. I think waiting for this baby has to be one of the most surreal experiences of my life....my brain won't let me concentrate on a novel or film, I'm just constantly trying to imagine the labour, which is of course, unimaginable. I'm so glad this was your 'best' delivery and still love the twist at the end!

Tee and Effie, sending you solstice wishes that you have your babies home for the longest day this weekend, and the strength to manage the disappointment if not....must be so hard for you ladies xx

Ermintrude, Zozo, Worried, Silk and all others in the antechamber of anticipation, hi to you! Anybody any suggestions for filling the overdue hours? I have The Wire, an overwritten novel to read, may be tempted by a manicure, but am really at a loss now! I'm started to take baby's non arrival quite personally!

June, how fab, hope those cx keep coming. And the very fact you're getting symptoms means that even if you do end up with induction it sounds as though your body is getting ready which would make everything happen more smoothly (I was talking to a mum who'd had 2 inductions at 12 or 13 days post due-date and both had been good manageable labours with no intervention, so it can be done). But fingers crossed for you doing it before they get to you

choccie great birth story, sounds like you came over all Amazonian . If you'd had the epidural you could have been there for hours more. but you listened to your body and pushed. And another surprise girl!

Did the 'flesh' look like pale raggedy membranes? Sounds like bits of placenta - with my DD the MW warned me I'd get some and I had to save it for the visiting MW to look at - lucky lady. If you get any more (you might have to pee into a bucket or hold a pad of toilet paper ready to catch anything) save it to show MW just to be sure.

I bled quite heavily after both births for days and the lochia continued for about 3-4 weeks but v light at the end.

Naat lovely to hear from you; Mila sounds like a champion feeder already

silk hope your appt goes well this aft.

Have lovely days all xx

Hi everyone!! Thanks for all your messages- you are a supportive lot aint you!!!

Woo June thats good news if things are getting going for you!! Hope everything is going okay for you... will be interesting to see how big your LO actually is!!

What are you ladies in waiting doing about Father's Day??? With being due on Sunday, I don't know whether to get DP something, or whether it would be tempting fate??? It would be nice for the baby to arrive in time for Father's Day... but I can't see it happening at the moment!! Any ideas??

Had zero sleep last night, my mind was going crazy about all the different scenarios which may happen over the next few days... maybe reading birth stories last thing before going to bed isn't the best thing to do in the world!! Also, reading the page about episotomies and tears in my pregnancy book probably wasn't a good idea either!!

oh and ermintrude... sorry, forgot what a tetchy lot you fogies can be

Tee - great news about Adam I can totally understand why you want him home asap.

June - fab news about yr contractions - you must be so relieved. let's hope you've got yr lo by tonight

Choccie - lovely birth story. No wonder you wanted an epidural after all that work and only a few cms dilated! Isn't it funny how yr body can just suddenly get on with it though? Amazed at how well yr little girl slept last night (surely you can't be that lucky) As for bleeding last time - iirc I bled the whole time I was in hospital (4 days cos dd had jaundice) and definitely had some BIG blood clots that made me worry they were bits of placenta. Think it all started to die down a bit like a light period after that for a while. Hth

Naat - I am amazed at yr ability to post like that when you've been a feeding machine for days. Make sure yr getting enough rest. I know the thread's addictive but not more important than sleep surely?

No news/signs here. Dh's birthday today so he actually went to work late (8am) and spent some time opening cards/presents with me and dd this morning which was lovely. He says he'll be home early tonight so we can take dd for a walk before bedtime. It was his suggestion - take the same route we did on the night before I went into labour with dd. We walked to what will be her primary school and dh talked to her through my tummy telling her how fab the world was and what she could see/do if she came out - very silly. But I went into labour the next morning. Even less likely this will work tonight as tomorrow is my due date. I think the odds of having 2 dcs on their due date would be about 0.25%

Off to see the mw now - catch you later

choccie Great story!

Well, Adam took a bottle this morning, so he can come home in about 24 hours!!! Big debate at my house today as to whether they will release him on Saturday/the weekend if they don't release him tomorrow! I now effie is going to do 2 nights rooming in with Rupert, but unless they insist, I want to bring Adam straight home.

Congrats to all the new mummies and the rest of you get to it!!

Can anyone tell me how long they bled for after delivery? Sorry tmi. .

When I was in hospital I was having horrendous afterpains (baby no.3 eh!) every 10 mins for 8 hours and no pain killers. BP sky high so on meds for that.

I took a trip to the toilet and had the urge to bear down (again) and out came 2 "huge" pieces of flesh. (hope I'm not making anyone ill). I was convinced I had delivered some leftover placenta and told the midwives. They wanted to see what I had depositied but I had flushed it away. It was too big for clots. I am talking the size of a fist! I am still bleeding quite a bit at home but feel ok. Just wondered if anyone was the same.

Good Luck June. Hope things are moving on for you Can't wait to hear.

Hiya Naat Sounds like you are coping really well with your lo

Hello to everyone else. I feel a little bit more like myself today but still very tired. Had lots of visitors and its all been a bit of a blur.

Somebody pinch me.......DD slept from 12.50am to 7am this morning!!!! I kept waking to check on her and was so tempted to wake her for a feed but we spent so much time yesterday trying to feed when she didn't want it so decided to let her sleep. I woke her at 7am and she took 80mls of formula She is such a calm and settled baby I cannot believe it. Its such early days yet but what a great start!!!

Just a quick run down of my birth story for anyone that may be interested: - (ok maybe not so quick).

Saturday evening - No signs of baby coming at all. Had no pineapple, no sex, no curry....woke at 5am Sunday morning for a trip to the toilet and before I could pee I felt a trickle that I guessed could be my waters breaking. I was not convinced so stayed on the toilet for a while just to be sure and then crept downstairs for a jar to put a sample of the waters into for the hosital. It was pink straw coloured so I knew things were on their way I woke DH and we took our time packing the car before waking the kids.I was having no pains at this point, just very minor period cramp.

We dropped kids to MILs at 6am and made our way to the hospital where I was admitted and sent directly to a delivery room.I was not in active labour but my BP was sky high once again (always happens when body starts pre-labour). We were monitored for an hour and moved to a pre-labour suite. Contractions started at 7am and were coming every 5 minutes. I used a gym ball which I found was great for getting through the pains. I also did some walking around and had to keep going to the toilet. Over a period of 5 hours I was getting regular painful ctxs but after 2 examinations I was still not dilating. I began to feel this was going to be a long day (like my 1st labour). I asked to be examined again at 12 noon and I was finally .5cm!! Because I was in such distress with the pain I was moved to a delivery room and when examined again was 3cm I "begged" for the epidural and started on gas and air. The anaesthetist arrived but as he was prepping me I had an unbelievable urge to push. The midwife asked me what I wanted to do and I said "Push". The epidural was cancelled, I was 8cms and 10cm soon after. I pushed in a squatting position until babys head was out. During this time I must mention that I was squeezing the dear life out of dhs fingers.

Once the head was out I got up onto the bed on all fours and pushed out the rest It was the most amazing birth experience I have had of all 3. I am amazed that I did it without pain relief, and was amazed how once I had reached the pushing stage the pain seemed to subside. The gas and air was simply a distraction, did not make me feel woosy or drunk etc. Labour was hard but quick. Established labour was 53 mins!

Our new baby was placed underneath me and the midwife kept saying "Look what you have". I was speechless and kind of frantically looking for the willy. The mid wife had to tell me that she was a girl and DH and I have been in shock ever since. We were all set to have a "Harry"

June fingers super crossed for you!!! Sending you loads of birthing vibes!!!

xxx

june hopefully this is it for you and like daisy you can avoid your induction please keep us posted and sending birthing vibes to you xxx

Good Luck June!!!!!!!

hey, so... been having my first proper contractions every 3 minutes since 3am :D
Hoping this is it and that it's not going to stop.
Called the labour ward who said by the sound of my voice to call back around 8am...
Fingers crossed for me ladies.

mrsmc LOL @ “I have never seen anyone so massive”. I showed my bump to my little bro on the webcam and he said "WOW, can you still get through doors???"

Naat It's good to hear from you, I hope the feeding calms down a bit for you :D How are you finding it?

Sorry I'm not catching up properly, I have been reading the posts but I'm really caught up in my own little world trying to come to terms with Friday's induction.

Thank you all for your kind messages of support! I feel a bit pathetic at times getting all anxious like that, I know millions of women around the world give birth all the time and I should really get a grip and be strong.

I'm trying to focus on this overwhelming feeling of happiness people talk about when the baby will finally be in my arms and hold on to that thought whenever I feel anxious about it all.

It's really nice to hear the new mums birth stories and what you are going through with the newborns, I am really quite excited about meeting my little one hopefully this weekend.

Has anyone else here been induced? I can't remember!

Hi lovely Juners!!!

I know this morning DH updated you on the birth of Mila, up to this afternoon I had been a human milk dispenser, believe me!

Mila was eating every single hour for 15 or 20 minutes and oh my I was constantly on call Now, I don't know if it's because the milk is about to come down, she last fed at 5.30, then had a nap for an hour and a half, got up, fed for 10 and back asleep How can they change patterns so quickly? Or maybe it's just a one off? Oh the uncertainty

She's doing fine, mum and dad are so inexperienced that granny is being a great help, I don't know how I'd manage without both of them here. The only thing is that she's having some trouble passing gas and cries and that breaks my heart, esp. as she cries until getting all red and now her voice is so hoarse because of last night's crying session

I've tried to catch up but could only get two pages back So so sorry if I get some things wrong when posting now.

Ermin, happy due date, really hope things get going soon for you I'm sure there's some sort of amnesia for mums to go through labour more than once

June, your SIL is just too much, girl. for you. You're right about BCs in general, they have sooooo many little things that can rule us out. I'm so sorry they've been like this with you, sweetie. (((hug)))

Dreamy, hope this is it!!! Birthing vibes your way.

Zozocat, welcome back! Hope things kick in soon!

Loouise, how are you up here? Could you solve the issue with baby father's sisters?

Tee, Adam is gorgeous! So glad he's getting better.

Daisy, YAY on avoiding induction!!! your baby is ace!

Laura, hope things kick in soon for you, a month with a 3/5 engaged baby! You're a saint!

Worriedamy, believe me, it's shocking to see a baby in your arms and realise it's yours!!

Ineed, awful doctor, so sorry you had to go through that! Glad today's doctor was much better. Hope Emily's nose clears soon.

Silk, Hi! Distraction is a good method. Your baking skills are brilliant! Yum!!

Insy, congratulations! What a wonderful birth!

Bigcar, DD sounds lovely Wonderful that LO is more awake now

Mrsmc, your LOs are lovely!!! MWs said to me at the BC up to 8 paracetamol a day are allowed and OK.

LittleS, I must say, I had your labour story in mind at times during labour to give me strength and think it might not be too long for LO to arrive

Hello to all the rest of the Juners.

I've taken so long to finish this post as I've been on and off feeding Mila and doing things I'm sure I'll have lost many things and maybe some more will have popped by now

So sorry ladies, will try better tomorrow.

(((waves)))

Just a quick goodnight post from me.

Sorry to hear some of you new mummies are feeling exhausted/emotional/sore - puts in to perspective the frustrations of just waiting for these little monkeys to come out.

Going to try and get a decent night's sleep tonight - keep meaning to go to bed earlier and then reading loads of mn threads!!!

Hey ladies thanks for the compliments on my babies, I look at them both often now and wonder how I got so lucky

Littlesarah – LOL about the sick, it’ll all come back to you (literally ) I keep trying to wind Aaliyah but she doesn’t seem to need it sometimes a smile creeps across her face and I think “yup, wind” but then my efforts come to nothing and she falls back to sleep! Her feeds and sleeps are getting longer so I got a bit more sleep last night would have got more if I hadn’t been up with DS at 4am.

Ermintrude – happy due date! am feeling a lot happier today would be even happier if DH hadn’t come in from wetting the baby’s head at 2am and broken the toilet though

Laura – how about putting the pineapple in a smoothie to mask the texture? Those pains are normally the cervix preparing I think, not a nice feeling, I so hope it happens for you soon

Ah Help – I know how you feel. Post about Infacol here, we worshipped the stuff with DS, called it his “starter” as he had to have it at every feed, he was a nightmare for colic. I have stocked up again but so far I haven’t needed it.

Tee – yay! A weekend home coming! Great news just a thought, are you using a collector on the other breast when pumping from one? I always leak and it really boosts the collection volume if you catch the overspill, I got 3ozs this morning. Great to hear of the positive changes in Adam

Naat – congratulations both to you and your DH. Lovely name and what a good weight Mila was! But hey what a lot of hard work you had to put in though! Phew! That cervix of yours certainly took it’s time dilating for you like you, I have found the “throne” the most comfortable place to be in the final stage of labour, I literally had to pull myself off it and onto all 4’s this time as there was a very real possibility that that was where my DD would have ended up being born!

Hey there Silkcushion you are always cooking yummy things

Ineed – so glad you got a good result at the drs this time, hope it clears up soon

Worriedamy hey you, don’t feel like that those of us who have done it before want to help those of you who haven’t and those of you who haven’t had a baby before are helping each other too by confiding how you feel so do stick around I look at my DD, now a week old and think I recognise shapes she makes with her body from when she was inside me, it is an odd concept though! We moved to Spain when my DS was 4 months old and I’ve met all my friends here through him

Zozokat – welcome back hope your baby makes an appearance for you soon!

Bigcar – yup DS seems massive, especially when he wanted to be cuddled for 1 ½ hr last night poor mite is feeling full of the cold I can’t believe Edward is 3 weeks old, Aaliyah is a week old already and I can’t believe how the time has flown – I want it to slow down, she is such a delicious newborn

Daisy fabulous work you! Beating the induction, way to go! Little Fraser (well actually he was really quite long wasn’t he? ) sounds great and I am really delighted for you. Hope DD is reacting well to her little bro

June – love the annoying tips what planet is your SIL on?? My personal favourites and I swear they are true are:
“I have never seen anyone so massive”
“Are you sure the baby is alive in there?”
“You’re overdue? So you could have it here this minute?”
Am really feeling for you over the shadows cast over the birth by the bc, I hope you can find some peace of mind before your baby comes. Anything we can do? Want to compare measurements with us? Remember that my baby was meant to be massive, too big for my pelvis blah blah and it was nonsense.

Looouise – LOL hope you are enjoying the clary sage baths

Dreamy – we are all rooting for you come on Dreamy’s Baby!!!

Choccie – hang in there hon, it’ll get easier you know it will

Effie – so hope you get your little man home at the weekend, everything crossed x

Doris – hope it isn’t chicken pox hon.

Come on babies

Evening all.

I am exhausted so just wanted to say YAYA effie for rooming in!

As for Adam, main line is out of his belly button, he's on full feeds through is tube, no fever and no longer on O2. All that's left is to get him to take a bottle/breast and he can come home!

Good luck with the rooming Effie when we came to take dd2 home I remember the feeling of absolute dread that something would go tits up, but it was ok if a little scary.

ineed glad you had a decent dr this time, mine are still sore but have the mw back tomorrow. I'm wondering if my postioning at night is not great as it feels worse in the morning so tonight (if I can manage it) i'm going to come downstairs to my 'normal' chair to see if that helps.

Chocci hope you get dome sleep soon x

Ermin LOL at your playground conversation. being overdue is no fun

and june to hear about your difficult appt, don't ersign yourself completely just yet our bodies are odd things and it may surprise you yet! (on the other hand start making some mental plans in case of cs too)

zozokat and worriedamy (((waves)))

I've had a reasonble day still knackered and still not done the pre-school run yet (I promsed myself I would do it this week before dh goes back to work). Annabelle is doing well and passed her hearing check today.

However got all emotional this evening as I changed dd2 I noticed some red spots which look like the start of chicken pox. she was due a full review with the CF team tomorrow so that will have to be cancelled and she has had a cough for the last god knows how long which we wanted to discuss. So ontop of the fact that she may struggle anyway dealing with it, I really would like Annabelle to avoid getting it so young (small miniscule positive note d, dd1 and I have all had it already)

ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!

Anyway enough of me I hear the call of the sofa good luck to all you due ladies ( dreamy may have her LO by now )xx

Hi All.

Congrats to Naat insy Choccie and Daisy sorry if I've forgotten anyone xxxx

Tee I sniff a hat that Rupert wore-- the lovely--not - yellow one and thats meant to help!!! But its comforting if it doesn't. I know you can store it in the fridge for 48hours and 3 months in the freezer.

Hows everyone else doing???????

I'm a bit fed up today-- I should be happy, as Rupert might be coming home on Saturday-- but can't help think- somethings going to stop it happening!! But I won't bore you with it all. Just hormonal and tearful. I'm rooming in ( where I stay overnight) tomorrow and friday and fingers crossed for saturday xx

DH is feeding me chocolate and making me tea-- which helps xxlol xx

Hope you are all well xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hello everyone. So sorry have not been posting.

I feel awful but just don't seem to have the time for anything at the moment. This is day3 for me and my breasts are engorged and painful and I am having huge hormonal swings/baby blues.

Elina is doing great but is very mucousy so not keeping much food down and is in quite some discomfort.She is sleeping so much and we are finding it a challenge to wake her for her feeds. Last night was our 1st night home and she was awake for most of it. She is still so young so things will change in time.

Congrats to Daisy.Well done!

Typing this with 1 hand as Elina is propped up in my other preparing to wretch.

Had 5 hrs sleep since delivery on Sunday so shattered. Will be back when can function.....come on you due ladies. Can t wait to hear your news.

Well the doctor I saw was fab. She said she wouldn't prescribe flucanozole for breast thrush as she wasn't happy to prescribe something that wasn't licensed for BF mums, but as I was presenting symptoms of vaginal thrush (sorry for TMI) then she'd prescribe me the oral tablet, two doses over a week. It wasn't 'til I got home and looked at the prescription I saw it was the stuff I needed. I thought she was doing a bit of 'nudge nudge wink wink' but was too dazed to work out what she was saying! I have Daktarin cream at home anyway so I'll start putting that on my nipples, so it's just the oral gel for Emily if she starts showing symptoms and you can get that over the counter. She was so much nicer than the last doctor I saw and chatted to me for a good 5 mins after the appointment about the 3D scan cock up (she was 23 weeks pregnant herself) and DS's health.

So hopefully, the tablet, the cream, some heavy duty pro-biotic from the health food shop and maybe the gel for her (though she's got no symptoms of thrush, so don't want her to have it if she doesn't need it). It also comes through in breast milk so she'll be getting it that way too.

I feel so much better just having spoken to her. Phew!

Well it's my 32nd birthday on Friday and methinks it'll be a bit of a write-off this year! Going out with a friend in the morning for a coffee as we'll drop the toddlers off at a church group that babysit for you while you go off and shop! It'll be quite civilised (well as civilised as can be with a 5 month old and a newborn).... then it's a nice meal in the evening with DH before I scuttle off to bed at 9pm so I can get some sleep in.....

Once I've cracked the thrush, I'm going to start trying to express some milk so DH can do a feed in the evening to give me a bit of a window for sleep.....

Hello to zozocat and worriedamy - this thread is a life-saver! Where are you both based? I think there's a few of us based in and around London. There was talk of us all meeting up around September time (which will be weird!) when we feel a bit more confident with the bubs.... Don't worry about being young or a first-timer. I've blinking-well forgotten everything from last time anyway, so will be asking questions myself from time to time. We're all different ages here anyway, and from different backgrounds with a whole range of experience. My mum was 23 when she had me and it's lovely that she's still young enough to enjoy life and her grandchildren.

WRT to taking baby to places, my mate took her 6 month old to Glastonbury and camped and everything! They have brilliant facilities for babies, I think it's lovely! He did have to wear ear protectors though!

Emily's nose seems a bit better today, though she still snuffles through her feed. I BF in front of FIL today. I think he felt a little awkward, but he soon got over it. I guess the key to feeling more confident BF in public is to just get on and do it!

Anyway off to bath DS. I only realised earlier that we haven't bathed Emily yet..... I remember dying to bath DS after his cord dropped off.... I just haven't got round to it with her

Hey am back and the news is that my cervix is not co-operatng.
Realistically looking at induction Friday, not fun .
The mw said the baby is "big" from the measurement they take with their little tape measure on the tummy. that's why I can't have it there, in case it's too big and gets stuck.
I don't think that measurement is very acurate especially since the sonographer mentionned there was a lot of fluid in there but hey what can I say.
with the baby only 3/5th engaged the situation is that we won't know until my contractions are started whether the baby is too big or not. If she is then they'll advise on a (emergency) c-section. (not sure whether I want to do some reading about it or not :S).
So that's it really, very little chance of me going spontaneously in labour since she couldn't do the sweep properly.
Off to get something to eat!

zozokat here's a typical playground conversation from today:

Everyone: Ooh, isn't it your due date today, haven't you had it?

Me: Damn, I knew there was something I was supposed to be doing.

. It's going to get very boring in the next week or two.

silk lol @ your reflexologist. Having seen how James Herriot delivered calves I'm relieved for you that she didn't have a go

worriedamy ahem, being 42, like me and my DH, your DP is a mere lad, not a fogey. You can go off people, you know .
Re the 'gala day' - teeny babies are very portable and as long as you don't take them anywhere too noisy/hot/cold etc. they can be carried along with you everywhere. I bet your colleagues would love to meet your LO too.

Worriedamy, echo what others have said about the NCT! You can join their groups even if you haven't paid for classes or joined up. I haven't had the experience of playgroups yet, but also recommend investigating the Mumsnet Meet-ups threads and Local sections. Depending on where you live, you might already find a thread or you could start one. When I joined MN in January, finding local people was a priority for me (I'm an expat living in London so no big family network nearby etc.) and it worked our really well, met some lovely local mums-to-be including bunnymother (can't wait to hear an update from her!!) so definitely recommend giving it a try

Loooouise it is crap being overdue isn't it!! are you getting loads of 'is the baby here yet' emails? i have my facebook status set to a daily 'still waiting' type message to stem the questions as it is getting depressing.

Silkcushion hope the reflexology gets things going

June have i understood correctly you can't use your BC due to baby's size?? hope they can give you some straight answers about that. (And good luck with 2nd sweep. got my 2nd tomorrow at 11am … )

Worried - the great news is there is a secret society of mummies that I knew nothing about before having dd 18 months ago.

Although I'm older than you I knew no one locally with children as I'd been doing the whole career thing. I was dreading my maternity leave stuck in the house with only a tiny baby for company and no family locally either.

However, there are loads of places to go. NCT post natal meeting groups which you can drop into and churches are a fantastic source of community support. Local health visitors ran drop in centres at the local sure start place. You suddenly realise there are loads of other mums just like you not knowing who to turn to. I met a huge variety of people, all ages, all walks of life and all very friendly.

I think it's worth looking them up now and waddling along even before you have the baby. I went to the NCT bf group beforehand and after even though bf went horribly wrong. They were still very welcoming (was expecting to be lynched once I swapped to bottlefeeding).

Reflexology update - no dramatic bursting of waters thank goodness Although when I told the therapist she said wouldn't have phased her as she used to be a farmer and ahs delivered lots of calves/lambs

Dh's birthday tomorrow so we'll see if he gets a surprise present.

June - ime birthing centres are almost always looking for reasons to not allow you to birth there. I had dd on a labour ward (none of my birth plan happened as I expected really) but it was still a good experience. Hope this afternoon's appointment goes well. Sorry yr going through such a tough time

Worried I think it's rather lovely you're starting so young, and in fact I envy you. I wanted to ttc when I was 24 and was living with a wonderful man, whom eventually I had to leave when he told me he would never want kids. How I wished I'd just got pregnant....10 years later, he's single and depressed and I've got all the challenges of single motherhood ahead of me (my baby conceived after ONE episode with an old friend from uni, who will be involved, but lives abroad...)
I know plenty of people who take their kids to festivals, as Ermin says. It's all going to be lovely for you. Plus my mum had me at 23, and I love having such a pretty, young mum, who at 56, is now able to give me full support and enjoy her grandmotherhood.

HI Zozo, hope you're bearing up...I'm overdue too, it's crap

lauraloo what a great outcome for you, you must be so happy!!

Thanks ermintrude, I'm sure you are right and it will all seem very natural to me when I have a little baby to look after... at the mo it all seems a bit 'AHHH'!! 12 months ago I was acting like a d'head every Wednesday night round town in fancy dress and wondering what to wear to Graduation!! Don't get me wrong- baby was planned and v v v much wanted, and to be honest we knew we couldn't really wait too long after I graduated with DP being an old fogey and all that but I think its all dawning on me a bit!!

Good idea about the baby and toddler groups... will have a look if there is a breastfeeding group or something that I could go to?? The avergae age of people in the street around here seems about 102, so was wondering where I would meet new people! I have moved in with DP, and didn't start of on a good footing as I parked in someone elses parking space a few times, and was left a friendly little post-it on my car advising me not to do it again!! All very stuck in there ways around here!!

Got a 'Gala Day' to go to on the 2nd August, its a work thing and I would really like to show my face. What do you new mummies think?? Would it be too soon, with it only being 6 weeks away?! Would it be unfair of me to take the baby with me if I went? Would it be a bit much for him?! I really don't know!!

worriedamy i think i'm one of the relatively younger mums-to-be on this thread (25) and I TTC since the age of 22 but i had a lot of problems and funnily enough this time last year I was told off my consultant and GP that I would never have children, and I was about to be put on waiting list for IVF when this miracle happened for me and my lovely DH, totally surprising GP and consultants

Like ermin said there are a lot of support groups you should check GP surgeries, NCT websites etc for any groups in your area...and mumsnet is always here...don't know how i would have got thro last 9 months without the lovely people i have 'met' on this website - esp thro my miscarrige scare everyone i have been in contact with here have been very helpful and supportive...esp if all you want to do is have a rant

worriedamy There's a real spread of ages on this thread - I'm one of the two oldest at 42 - and nobody would say there's an ideal age for everybody to breed; we all find our own way through it. When you're my age your LO may have left for college and you can be going to festivals every other week .

Nothing helps you make friends more easily in a new place than having a baby - all towns and cities have playgroups and mother and baby activities so it's worth checking local newspapers and freebie magazines for details. Lots of church halls have baby and toddler groups which are not just for churchgoers. Have you done an antenatal class? That's always a good source of new friends who'll be in the same position as you, and the NCT run post-natal ones too. Your GP surgery should also have info about resources for new mums, and you'll meet lots when you take baby to clinic.

And Mumsnet is a great place to get advice about all sorts of things so feel free to rant and moan on here.

Got to get DS from school now. You've got all of it to come..

June-- I dont know how you are coping beong overdue like you are and then having your plans changed like they have been it must be very frustrating for you! I wrote my birth plan out for the millionth time the other day, but can't help feel its a bit idealistic and not going to be at all like that!

I know what you mean about the 'tips'... however the only tip I seem to get is have sex, and I think poor DP is feeling a bit worn out now!!

I have plenty of support from DP, mum, sister, and family and friends but it still doesn't really feel real. DP is quite a lot older than me (23 and 42!!) and I think he is a bit worried about how he is going to cope when the baby arrives too. He has a son already, but he was born at 27+5 and it was all very different, as I'm sure you can imagine! So I dont think he is really sure how to cope with a moaning, immobile pregnant woman, and spends quite a lot of the time looking at me worriedly (a real word?!) every time I have a twinge. He is very supportive and tries to be as involved as poss though, so I'm not complaining!! I have just moved 50 miles away from all my family and friends though, to an area where I don't know anyone, so I am starting to get very worried about how I am going to cope afterwards. My mum manages to get up to see me once a week, and is very excited about her first grandchild. My sister is also very excited about becoming an aunty, but she has just started uni, so I think it all seems like a totally different world to her. Most of my friends are either still at uni or just starting proper jobs, so I feel like a bit of an odd one out I still get all the invites to festivals etc, and makes me a bit sad when I have to say no as my life is changing away from that carefree world now They all mean well, but any conversations about being pregnant turn into an interigation and inevitably end in a conversation about how they could never imagine being pregnant or going through labour and I can't help but feel like they all think I am a bit weird for wanting to have a baby so young (I dont think I am that young!!). So, just generally feeling a bit bleugh and sorry for myself as you can see, and really wish I had found this thread a lot earlier so I could have had some reassurance throughout the pregnancy!!
Anyway... sorry for the moan!!!

lauraloo09-- congrats on getting a good nights sleep, I think I may have forgotten what one of those was like! I was sat in the kitchen at 3am this morning with the dog looking at me rather confused as to why I was sat in the kitchen with her in the dark! I'm sure I will get more sleep when the baby actually arrives!!

zozokat-- I have a great big thick book about pregnancy which I have been reading rather a lot recently!!

Congrats Daisy! Great name and you avoided induction! Hope the early days go well and you can tell us more when you are up to it..!

Insy - congrats to you too! Great news!

Naat - Sounds like you were an absolute warrior throughout labour, congratulations again! I know what it is like to be feedin constantly, you just try and rest as much as you can inbetween!

Thanks for reassurance about throwing up, it was extra helpful as he did so again this morning, copiously! He doesn't seem bothered at all by it ermin so I'm sure you're right. Health visitor was round and she gave me some winding tips, but Alex may just be like your Emily ineed, he may be a bit of a puker!

Oh, also the HV said that sometimes at about 4-6 weeks breastfed babies can start holding onto their poo for days... ie only pooing every few days, but as long as they are happy not to worry! I don't think that happened with dd! Anyway, strange but interesting I though....

Tee - Great news about Adam! Home time soon!

Zozo - Welcome back! I hope things kick off soon for you, waiting is nightmarish!

Welcome worriedamy!

Sorry to see that you guys have not followed my pattern silk and ermin... oops! Still, give it another 24 hours...

Right, lovely friend has just picked up dd so I am going to put my feet up for a bit.Dh is already asleep on the sofa!

laura 3/5th for a month and I thought I was doing all right then.
louise yup, got a second sweep this afternoon at 3pm.

I've not been sleeping well at all, I've been emotional and worried about exactly what the risk is that the birth centre will not take that I can't deliver there anymore. I've not had any explanation on what having a "big" baby (if she is even big that is) means in terms of birth and feel like the last 6 months of "preparing" have been totally wasted.
Dh will bring it up after the sweep this afternoon so I can get my head round what kind of birth I should be expecting since allthe "nice" choices have gone out the window.

Daisy, congratulations!! and so good to hear he's healthy and not 'overdue looking' and no induction! fabulous and hope your early days go well…

June, Worriedamy I have also just invested in some baby books (better late than never) got 'what to expect' UK edition hoping it will give me a good general guide. Of course it will arrive next week when (crossed fingers) I won't have time to read anything

June i agree with you about these labour-inducing suggestions from everyone -- and i've gotten really sick of curry and other hot foods (weird as i normally love hot food but force-feeding is not helping!) -- um, jumping up and down, really?? that doesn't sound very safe (i assume we're supposed to hold the bump?)

Lauraloo I've also been 3/5 engaged for over a month -- maybe it feels like 'burrowing' but no downward movement is actually happening

Obviously i've joined in again during a very exciting time, hope all new mums and babies are doing well catch up again later!

Gosh lots of posts

Congratulations Daisy and hello to Little Fraser

Dreamy - blimey you've been contracting for 2 days now - so much for the theory that the more babies you have the quicker it is.

Looouise/June/Zozo - it's really not that long since I was a first time mum and I remember it all feeling completely surreal. It is impossible to imagine having an actual baby. It's also very hard to focus on anything other than the impending birth and how that will go. But as the other mummies on here have shown as soon as yr lo is out nothing else matters. In the last week before I had dd I was utterly convinced labour was starting everyday. We're so immobile and fed up it's natural to obsess about every bit of discomfort or a twinge.

I am trying desperately hard to not think anything might be happening and to distract myself.

Ermin - thanks for the reflexology story. She's coming to my house at 1.30pm so maybe I'll get the towels out rather than flood the lounge floor. Can't remember whether I said but did this last time. Same lady, she rang me back last night at 9pm and asked whether it worked with dd. But how can you tell? I might have been going into labour anyway. Of course if I have this baby tonight you'll all be looking up reflexologists in the morning

Hello to all the mummies - hope you have lovely days with yr babies

I've just baked some blueberry cookies - wish I could share them round (just what you need whilst trapped bfeeding) and it would save me eating them all

hi everyone wow so many new babies congratulations to all our new mummies. Ive just got back from the hospital. Ive been getting really strong contractions every 10 minutes today and was given an internal examination this morning and found to be around 2-3 cm dilated so have come home again to labour some more at home. Im hoping they will pick up but could be in for a long painful day and night. Will try to keep updating throughout the day hood luck to everyone else still waiting to pop

Triple congratulations! Much popping of champagne corks to you busy ladies.

Hooray Daisy!!! Congratulations and hello darling Fraser. I'm so so so happy that you avoided the horrid induction, you were so patient waiting so long. I hope you're cuddling and enjoying the love.

Insy salutes to you and kisses for your little Bear - I can see Bear sticking for life! (But Edward is lovely too!) Hope you're getting some rest now, your birth sounds heroic.

Naat, I think it's lovely your DH brought Mila into the world. No, darling you brought her in, but it's lovely he caught her and said hello! Well done for battling on so long and congratulations on a little girl and a lovely name.

Ermintrude still here , basically symptomless. Happy due date to you!

June thinking of you too - do you have another sweep today?

Laura - my 'friends' have come back for a visit, so it now looks like I'm going to have all sorts of havoc in the front and back bedroom too! OOOOOh, they hurt.

Silk hope you're bearing up....

Ladies with babies pls wait for us! It's really great hearing about your early days, so don't go off on another thread just yet. Plus I think I'm going to be last and will have no one to announce too [selfish emoticon]

Off for another friggin' clary sage bath...

Congratulations daisy and welcome Fraser! Love the name...its my surname.

daisy, huge congratulations and welcome to baby Fraser Glad you beat the induction deadline!

morning all - got a really good nights sleep last night only up twice and finally woke up at 11.10!!!!

june I have been 3/5th engaged for over a month now so i'm hoping the pains i got last night was baby borrowing down more - I am a bit crampy this morning, maybe if i do housework it will help lol Somehow SIL's suggestion of jumping up and down doesn't really work lol

daisy congratulations on the birth of Fraser Alistair and happy you avoided the induction hope you and baby are keeping well

tee glad to hear Adam is doing much better and that he could be home for the weekend

mrnaat thank you for posting the birth story and what a lovely name you both chose for your baby

mrsmcjnr the photos of your children are lovely!

June welcome to Fraser and well done you for beating that induction deadline! Hope you can get some rest now and we'll hear more from you soon.

the dwindling ladies in waiting bit of the list is getting a bit depressing, but there's still lots of june to go [brave smile emoticon]

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - Mila Maunier weighing 3.255kg and measuring 51cm 14th june 2.53 pm
chocciedooby - Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
Daisy- Fraser Alistair was born Monday 15th June 2009 at 10:08pm. A handsome chap, he weighs in at a tidy 7lbs 13.5oz (3.56kg) and is 56cm long.
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009) (34, 1st one!)

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
daisy5 - 6th June (42, dd) guess Friday 29th May
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
June2009 - 7th June (32, 1st baby) DH guess 5th June, my guess 14th June
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
dreamydowler - 16th June
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
insywinsyspider - 18th June (28 ds1 3,ds2 18mo) my guess 21st June
silkcushion - 19th June (34, dd 17m)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

Daisy WOW, congrats, so happy for you that you avoided induction (and very much hoping that same happens to me ;)
The sonographer told me there was plenty of fluid in there too.
Loving the names you chose as well :D
I can't remember whether Monday was a good day for you with your dh's schedule.
Take care of yourself, get some rest and we'll be waiting for your story when you're ready :D

hey worried I'm in the same boat, first timer and sometimes can't quite beleive that there's a baby to keep inside my belly!
I think it doesn't matter how much we prepare for it, it'll still be a shock when we hold the baby in our arms for the first time :D

Have you got family with you like a partner/husband, mum or a sister or a friend who can help you with the newborn or a book to read on how to look after a baby?
I've been reading "what to expect" and the "baby whisperer" which has step by step info on things like how to bathe the baby, change a nappy etc. louise said she found some good videos on youtube as well.

tee thrilled that Adam could be back this weekend, Effie said Rupert might be back this weekend too :D

Daisy how it it going, is the induction today?

Laura I've been getting this kind of pain but assumed it's the baby's head making its way down? The mw wrote in my notes she's 3/5 engaged now.

ermin Happy due date! I'm 41+3 and still not having proper contractions or significant labour signs either, I am pulling my hair out.

I'm getting slightly irritated by non-pregnant folks who come up with "tips" on how to bring labour on. If I had a pound everytime I'd be rich :S
- "have a curry, she'll definitely come out then". "nooo, but have a HOT one, it works I swear".
- "have plenty of sex"
- "eat pineapple"
- "just think about something else" (??)
- "book expensive tickets to somewhere"
- "go for a long walk"
To prize for the most ridiculous one has got to go to Sil: "Try to jump up and down" (she tells me this everytime she sees me)...

After a few false starts, Fraser Alistair was born Monday 15th June 2009 at 10:08pm. A handsome chap, he weighs in at a tidy 7lbs 13.5oz (3.56kg) and is 56cm long.

....I made it to the hospital 12 hours before due to be induced so cut it fine!! Fraser not at all overdue looking - covered in vernix. not a big baby either as predicted - i just had lots of waters.

Wow girls - so much action in the past few days. Congrats to everyone - naat, insy, bunny, nemo, lynnn & choccie.

Only had 9 hours sleep over past 3 nights and Fraser dozing off now in my arms so will pop off to catch up on some zzzz's and come back later to catch up with all the news properly and tell my little story.

worriedamy first-time labour is always a weird one - it would be a bit odd if you weren't at least slightly nervous about it, really. But I'm sure it helps to read all the different birth stories and how they don't always go to plan - and how overjoyed everyone is, however their baby arrived in the end .

zozokat welcome back. I'm due today but no signs of anything, and I'm grumpy enough not being late at all, so do sympathise with you. My DS was 10 days late and I was very fed up indeed.

The shooting pains could be baby burrowing down and getting ready, or ligament pains, also caused by baby weight. Your uterus will be preparing itself for the big moment all the time.

morning all

congratulations to naat, bunny, choccie and insy

tee, your little Adam is gorgeous, good to hear he's doing well and may be home soon Hope the expressing is going well now.

MrsMcJnr, your two are rather lovely too Does your ds suddenly seem to be huge now your dd has arrived?

doris, nothing wrong with dummies didn't a recent study show they could help to prevent sids? Two of mine had dummies and I thought they were great, why have an upset baby when you don't need to be!

ineed, hope you have much better luck at the doctors today and manage that doze in the sun, sounds heavenly

ermin, happy dday! hopefully not long for you now

june, you have my sympathy, my first 4 dcs were all late, between 8 days and 3 weeks, the memory of that time fades very quickly when you have your lo to cuddle

littlesarah, like ermin, my dd1 also used to throw up after every feed, however well she'd been winded. Hopefully it'll just be a one off for you!

dreamy, how exciting, hope to hear baby news from you soon!

laura and silk, sending positive labour vibes your way

Edward seems to be awake more during the day now which is nice, 3 weeks old tomorrow and people are already saying he's changing! One of the mums at school bought her new twins up to school on monday, they are a week younger than Edward but he looks about 6 months older, they were tiny! Dd3 keeps telling me when Edward is crying (even though he's next to me in his moses basket) she's not happy if he's crying and tells me to pick him up, it's so sweet Will try to put some more photos on later.

waves to all

hi everyone,

mind if I (re) join this thread??

I posted a few messages on earlier due-in-June threads a few months ago. I had a rather late and scrambly start at maternity leave (combo of freelance and part-time work, messy!)

Anyway, I was due last Friday 12th and still waiting * sigh *

Oh and i'm also getting those sharp pains, lauraloo and worriedamy -- unbelievable! Also my first one so always wondering if its normal!!

off to do a bit of waddling walking and keep things moving …

lauraloo- I know what you mean about those sharp shooting pains, feels like the baby is scrapin his nails down the front of my bits, raaaather painful! I do feel a bit redundant on this thread as most of you ladies have either given birth or have done it before, and all have lots of very helpful advise for eachother, whereas I still cant quite imagine this little belly I've got has got a full grown baby in it and it will be coming out soon! I just cant imagine it! Readin the wonderful birth stories helps, but I still cant help feeling its still something that happens to other people and not me! If that makes sense!

Naat, you're a star, well done for managing such a long labour so brilliantly - hope you're able to snuggle up with little Mila and recuperate. And you'll pop the next one out in half the time . Oops, is that your DH fainting clean away? .
Oh, and I had a tiny tear both times and they healed quickly without stitches and were then no problem.

lauraloo and silk I share your concerns! My due date today and no show or contractions or anything. Must remember that 20% of babies are born between wks 41 and 42 and that the due date is a pretty moveable feast. Can't wait to see this LO though, and can't think about anything else, or do much else since I'm so mahoosive. A friend had reflexology at 10 days overdue and her waters broke all over the therapist's floor

Ineed you make sure you get an answer and some help from the doc today. Cry if necessary . Hope Emily's wee nose clears soon.

Where's that Looouise??

Hi to everyone else /waves forlornly

Congratulations Naat and Mr Naat! Great name!

Congratulations to Insy too!!

Tee - loved your videos of Adam - what a cutie! Hope you get to take him home soon.

LittleSarah - I'm the same. Emily seems to hold onto her wind and I think I've got it all out, give her a feed and then she chucks up everywhere. I've forgotten everything!

Help - you sound so happy to be a mummy! Fabulous!

MrsMcJnr - Your DC are gorgeous!

Well had a bit of a unsettled night as Emily's nose is still blocked so she finds it difficult to feed. She asleep now, I just wish I could join her but DS is putting a stop to that! It's so much harder with two!

Got the docs later so I'm armed with info Doris - I'm determined to come out with some kind of diagnosis! I'm going to ring the BF counsellor to get them to ring, if I get no joy.

Looks like it might be a nice day, weather-wise. Hopefully DS can kick about in the garden and I can doze on a lounger with Emily....

Positive labour vibes for all you ladies in waiting!

Thanks for the birth story Mr Nat. Sounds like she did extremely well. I remember the absolute sheer fatigue and exhaustion of my first labour well (but none of the pain). Mila is a lovely name.

Tee - fantastic news re Adam - hope he's home soon. And hope you are feeling better today - make sure you're taking care of yourself

Thanks Mr Nat! Give her our love!! Beautiful name.

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - Mila Maunier weighing 3.255kg and measuring 51cm 14th june baby 2.53 pm
chocciedooby Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009 (34, 1st one!)

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
daisy5 - 6th June (42, dd) guess Friday 29th May
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
June2009 - 7th June (32, 1st baby) DH guess 5th June, my guess 14th June
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
dreamydowler - 16th June
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
insywinsyspider - 18th June (28 ds1 3,ds2 18mo) my guess 21st June
silkcushion - 19th June (34, dd 17m)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

Hello Juners
Naat's DH here. She has a little mite that won't stop feeding, so I'm posting on her behalf. She promises to catch up as soon as she can.

Thank you for all the sweet messages, she was very happy to receive them.

It all started Saturday night at 12:04 AM when she woke up with strong ctx and after timming only 4 of them she decided to call the BC. They were lasting 1 min or more and 1 min or less apart.

They told us to go and when we got there they checked us in gave us a room with a pool, and did all the paperwork. When they examined her, however, she was only 3cm dialated.

3rd stretch and sweep of the fortnight and after 1 hr she was 4cm so they started filling the pool. She went in at around 4AM, posted on here and started working through labour. Se was quite in control using HB techniques, but at 8AM when they checked her again she was only 5cm dialated.

They offered us to break her waters in order to speed up the process and we doubted a lot as we wanted things to happen naturally, but the fact that it had been so many hs and that at this pace they could be many more made us go for it at 9AM.

After that things started moving a lot quicker, ctx were much stronger, but still Nat remained quite in control. At 1PM, however, after being in the pool for 9hs and feeling quite exhausted due to the high temp of the water and labour itself Nat started losing it a bit, she got teary and looked completely exhausted. She came out of the pool and tried different positions but she was already too tired and nothing was comfortable for her except for the toilet. So there she went and after her the 2 MWs and myself. She sat on the toilet for a while and then decided to stand up and have me as support to enter the final stage.

After a couple of hrs and having been labouring for 15, Mila's head finally appeared, then's when Nat's mum took over my position of holding her so that I could go to the front and deliver our baby with the aid of the MWs.

At 2.53pm Mila Maunier finally arrived, weighing 3.255kg and measuring 51cm. Nat started bleeding quite heavily (now sitting on a birthing stool) so MWs gave her the shot for the 3rd stage, which was perfectly understandable and we thanked them for it. The placenta came out about 5 mins later, one of the MWs showed it to us and explained us everything about it and we were in awe, of course. Nat had a 2nd degree tear but as it was not a bad one they allowed her to "heal by itself" and not have stitches (she has a needle fobia).

Mum and baby are great, baby is on a mission to feed, which is why it's been so hard for Nat to come and post. She'll give you all more details once she can log on.

Again, thanks for all the messages you sent to her and congratulations to all the new mums that have had their babies these last few days as well.

Nat's DH

Morning all!

I don't think we have one yet, help. There was some discussion about starting one, but I think it was decided to wait until everyone gave birth?

I just spoke to hospital. Adam is off his Oxygen and is doing really well. I am hopeful he'll be home this weekend!!

Do we have a post natal thread yet? Or shall I post my questions about infacol here?

I love my little Polly so much. I can't quite believe it.

evening all hope you all had a lovely day

mrsmcjnr your DC's are lovely baby is just absolutely gorgeous!

insy congrats on baby Edward and love the nickname Bear

silk I am also starting to worry i'll be the last juner to pop just trying to decide what else i can do to get things going...thing is MW tells me to eat fresh pinapple but although i like the take of pineapple I cannot stand the texture of it in my mouth lol

Well tonight i have had some clear discharge like a sneeze but no big 'blob' or blood tinge to it so assuming it is just normal discharge. Sorry for TMI but just back from loo and was almost doubled over due to a sharp 'stabbing' pain in my ladygarden area and keep getting these pains. As a first timer not sure if this is normal or means anything can anyone advise?

evening all

Insy - congratulations on yr little Bear glad you had him today after me accidentally announcing a birth yesterday. Another excellent hb story - feeling very ready to give it a go myself now

MrsM yr dcs are beautiful. Thanks for the response about the mucous plug.

Hello to everyone else

Booked a reflexology session for tomorrow lunchtime in a desperate bid to get thing going at least by my due date - starting to worry that I'll be the last of us left to go

Insy many congratulations on the birth of your little Teddy Bear . And well done for not pushing - I keep having dreams in which the MW tells me not to and I can't stop myself! Hope you get some lovely bonding days to come. I went to a bbq on Sunday and the family there had 3 sons - 9, 7 and 5 - and they were gorgeous together, like puppies . Their mum felt exactly like you at the birth of #3 but now can't imagine it any other way.

MrsMc They're both gorgeous - doesn't baby A look teeny in the double buggy! Sorry you're having a stressful time - hope some of it is the hormones and that you'll be able to chill soon. You still managed to respond nicely to everyone so I think your functioning standards are extremely high!

Tee I don't even remember guidelines about where to store milk . I tended to freeze mine anyway. Can't imagine it coming to any harm by being next to a jar of pesto or a packet of cheese.

LittleS my DD threw up after every feed whether or not she was winded. Some of them just do, and unless he's bothered by it you probably don't need to be.

My due date tomorrow. And most of you have already delivered . At least I can be officially grumpy now . Night all.

MrsMcJnr - Gorgeous wee girl you have there, and boy! I hope you get a good night's sleep.

I have so forgotten everything about looking after babies! Alex threw up hugely at dh's gramp's this evening and it totally freaked me. Then his granny said maybe he hadn't been hungry after all and it was just wind hence why he threw up... this never occurred to me! Now I am going to be worriedly winding him every half hour!

Mrsmc tee's right they're both gorgeous!!!!

Tee- I just had a look at Kellymom.com they suggest that keeping it at the back away from the door should be ok. Think if they're hospital guidelines they may be being overcautious given that they have really prem etc babies, sorry I'm not any more help

Right off for more feed

(ineed have started treatment and feeling better already stand your ground tomorrow!!! and good luck )

June – I think you should bring it up with the birth centre and challenge them, maybe after the baby arrives unless you still really want to have the baby there? As you say, nothing miraculous has happened and it is so unfair to uproot your plans at such an emotional time. I take pregnacare throughout pregnancy and breastfeeding and also B12 when breastfeeding, it is meant to really help you stay fit.

Dreamy – hope it all happens soon thinking of you!

Littlesarah – glad to hear the latch has improved, I hate it when they faff like that, my nipples are sore still and the initial catch is quite sore so I m always keen to get that part over and done with so hate it when she comes on and off but generally she is a much better feeder than DS was and I am so thankful! Also the dreaded colic he had seems to have stayed away, for now. Hope you had fun tonight, don’t overdo it.

Yay Choccie many congratulations on a lovely baby girl, a great weight and a lovely name! dying to hear more when you can xx

Doris – thanks for that, it was really interesting. Wow, that was a marathon feeding session! My DS has a dummy and it was a godsend with him, wonder if DD will need one too. Great news on her weight, I am going to take Aaliyah to the Pharmacy to be weighed tomorrow as they have a machine – no one wants to see us again until she is 4 weeks old but I need to know that she is putting on weight. If you find the milk storing guidelines could you post them? I need a refresher course too

Silkcushion – I always thought my labour would begin with a show too and I got a little the night before but it could have been due to sex, who knows, all I know is that I didn’t see much at all until 10 mins before DD arrived and then I definitely saw the plug!

Tee – Adam is so beautiful take care of yourself now; he is going to need a fighting fit Mama when he gets home. Don’t store the milk next to anything strong smelling in the fridge

Naat – thinking of you and hoping all is going well with your baby girl

Insy – lovely news and a million congratulations on the safe arrival of Bear (love the name) you take it easy

Right, Aaliyah has been feeding on and off since 8pm so I think I am now safe to go for a shower before bed.. 30C in here, so hot! The neighbour has just cranked up the volume on his music; I hope we are not in for one of those nights!

Yup, doris Great minds!!

LOL tee x posted great minds and all that!!

Was just going to remind myself of Breastmilk guidelines, have read some updated ones recently so will see if I can find them.

mrsmcJ she's beautiful! Sorry you are having such a hard time.

Congrats insy!!

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - 14th june baby 2.53 pm
chocciedooby Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009 (34, 1st one!)
insywinsyspider - Boy Edward (Bear) 16th June 2009 7am (18th June (28 ds1 3,ds2 18mo) my guess 21st June)

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
daisy5 - 6th June (42, dd) guess Friday 29th May
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
June2009 - 7th June (32, 1st baby) DH guess 5th June, my guess 14th June
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
dreamydowler - 16th June
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
silkcushion - 19th June (34, dd 17m)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

Congratulations Insy!!!!!

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - 14th june baby 2.53 pm
chocciedooby Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009 (34, 1st one!)
insywinsyspider - Edward (Bear) on 16th June 7am(28 ds1 3,ds2 18mo)

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
daisy5 - 6th June (42, dd) guess Friday 29th May
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
June2009 - 7th June (32, 1st baby) DH guess 5th June, my guess 14th June
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
dreamydowler - 16th June
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
silkcushion - 19th June (34, dd 17m)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

Photos on my profile

Been a bit tearful today I’m not feeling great, DS isn’t feeling great and has been a nightmare today, wailing, doing lots of naughty things, I feel like I have told him off all day and then got so upset because all the fun stuff I usually do with him like swimming and soft play are being done by DH and I am getting the hard hours like when DH had his Spanish lesson for an hour and I had to keep him away and quiet DH went to work this afternoon my Mum took DS to her house but still didn’t get any sleep as Aaliyah decided it was time for a mega feed, hope that bodes well for tonight.

Can anyone remind me what dosages of Arnica 200 and B12 we are supposed to be taking for them to be beneficial? Have totally forgotten

hello all - very quick update then off to bed, had another baby boy at 7am at home, had contractions 10-15mins apart all yesterday, took some paracetamol and went to bed, 2.30am v strong contractions woke me up, 6 mins apart, stood up at 3am and waters broke (a first for me!) back to back contractions then and babe arrived just after 7am - I fought the pushing stage , I panicked some what, so think it took a bit longer, he came out with the cord wrapped around his neck 3 times - didn't help I heard MW swear lots when his head came out and then kept saying 'don't push, don't push' he was little blue but doing ok now, had natural 3rd stage so think that prob helped him

His offical name is Edward but we're calling him Bear, he's gorgeous and his big brothers are thrilled, I'm a little sad I'll never have my daugther - looks like I'm just built to have boys but never doing labour again, definitely hanging up my baby booties now!

checking out for a while as think the boys will keep me v v busy but will be hopefully logging if for final baby arrivals and will check out post natal thread - do we have one yet?

I keep forgetting to ask...does anyone know why the guidelines for storing breast milk in the fridge says to not put it near any other food? My fridge isn't that big!!

June ta for Naat news, glad all is well.

I never took supplements, but then I never take them for anything. If you're having a healthy diet with plenty of carbs for energy and fresh fruit and veg I don't feel there's any need. But some people swear by them.

dreamy sounds very promising - good luck! xx

Another quick one, got text back from naat
she's doing fine and will log on as soon as she can to tell us about her baby girl :D

Quick question to breastfeeding mummies, do you take any vitamins supplements like sanatogen etc after birth?

June cheers for texting

It is totally exhausting being overdue, I never got that far previously and so it was a whole new experience, however you do forget very very quickly as mummy hormones take over....

Dreamy- very exciting just settle in and breathe throgh them, we may get some good news tomorrow

Tee- glad to hear about your milk, take it easy and don't ex[pect too much from yourself (if you take the pressure away it gets ALOT easier!!

Annabelle slept most of this afternoon (hence the mad posting splurge ) Am waiting to commence the feeding marathon

Aww Tee how cute is he, loving the videos :D You get yourself some rest! Take care.

I sent a text to naat, will let you know if she replies back. She did a quick post on Sunday here, I assume she's busy with motherhood :D

Been feeling really up and down and teary all day, being overdue is really mentally draining.
It's all part of the process isn't it; by Friday I'll be so fed up and depressed about it all that I'll be glad I'm being induced. I've got the sweep to "look forward to" tomorrow.

Hi Ive just had a bloody show and have been having mild contractions since this time yesterday. they are very irregular though but Im hoping there is no turning back now. Ive got the hospital tomorrow morning so am going to see if they will assess if Im dilating and take it from there.

Congratulations to all the new mommies!!

The good news is my milk seems to be coming in! I actually have about 1ml that he will get for sure tomorrow and will pump a few more times before I can go see him and hopefully will have more.

I totally overdid it today and feel too drained and sore to go see him tonight. Just rang the hospital and he's doing well. I do feel a bit guilty, of course, but I am trying to take advantage of him being in the best hands to get some rest and heal!

There is one pic of him on my profile, and tons more here: Adam and some video on YouTube.

Congrats Choccie and hello to Elina

MrsM I think it's lovely of you new mummies to hang around waiting for us to catch you up. Goodness only knows when we'll all pop. Not many left on the still expecting list (esp once Dreamy really gets going)

Tee - excellent birth story thanks for that.

Lawn mowed - had to take lots of breaks though as it's pretty hot here today.

Question about bloody shows - last time I had one a week beforehand and then some more two days before and on the day itself. Does that always happen? Or have any of you gone into spontaneous labour without that as a symptoms first? (guess I'm feeling a bit peeved that I've not had it yet)

Huge Congratulations to NEMO CHOCCI BUNNYMOTHER loads more gorgeous names (aren't we all clevel

Positive getting home vibes to Adam and Rupert xxxx

Has anyone heard from Naat there's been nothing since Sat and she was expecting to escape from hospital the next day.... beginning to get a bit worried about her (have checked FB and nothing..)

Thanks for all the birthday messages, nice to know I share it with at least 2 of our LO's

Mrsmcjnr- hope you're feeling better soon, take it easy lady, you try to do TOO MUCH!!!

I'm so far behind on all the 'stuff' i haven't got a hope in hell of catching up so am probably going to start again from now.

Annabelle is behaving well today after a marathon seesion yesterday evening 5pm on and off the (sore) boobs untill 11.45!!!!! I was knackered and she was getting tummy ache from taking too much !, It's taken till lunchtime today to get back on track and at 5 this morning I resorted to a dummy to try and help settle her but it worked!!

She has however managed to get past her birh weight and is now 8lbs 3oz Yeah!!!

That's all I can remember for now xxx

sorry that wasn't very clear it's from breastfeeding network on analgesics and bf'ing

Mrsmc

my favourite site atm hope this helps

Congrats Choccie!!! :D

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - 14th june baby 2.53 pm
chocciedooby Elina 13.18pm on 14th June 8lbs 4ozs
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009 (34, 1st one!)

LADIES IN WAITING
SweetBroody - 29th May (27, 1st one)
Leaky - 4th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
daisy5 - 6th June (42, dd) guess Friday 29th May
DreamyDorrie - 7th June (30, dd 2)
June2009 - 7th June (32, 1st baby) DH guess 5th June, my guess 14th June
Ebeson-8th June (DC No.6!)
Roseability - 11th June (DS 3yr)
tibsy - 13th June
Loooouise - 14th June (1st baby)
dreamydowler - 16th June
ermintrude13 - 17th June (42, dd10 ds6)
insywinsyspider - 18th June (28 ds1 3,ds2 18mo) my guess 21st June
silkcushion - 19th June (34, dd 17m)
lauraloo09 - due 20th June (1st child) 18th June (DH guess) 10th June (my guess)
worriedamy - due 21st June first-timer - boy
StrawberrySam - 23rd June (27, first-timer)

Yay choccie! Well done, and congratulations on the birth of little Elina. Sounds like you did really well and she's a good weight. Look forward to hearing the story soon

Hey everyone .

So sorry have not been on. Its been a whirlwind and I am the happiest mama alive .

Haven't been able to catch up on posts yet but just to let you know that my waters had broken on Sunday at 5am!!! Will give full birth story later for anyone thats interested.

Gave birth to beautiful Baby Girl , named Elina at 13.18pm on Sunday 14th June. Weighed 8lbs 4ozs. Had a completely natural birth with just gas and air! I am so proud of myself for that and still in stunned shock for having had a girl.

More later xxx

Thanks hon, head hurts

MrsMc the NHS site says that, provided the baby is full-term and healthy, paracetamol is the preferred painkiller to take while b/f although Nurofen is also considered safe. But they don't give amounts so I guess the normal dosages apply. Very little goes into your milk and no ill effects have been noted so as long as you're not overdoing it - or taking them for days on end - it should be fine. LLL also says that most medication taken by the mother has little or no effect on the baby - the body 'screens' most harmful effects. If in doubt maybe alternate paracetamol/nurofen? But if you need continued pain relief talk to the doc.

quick question how much paracetemol can i safely take breastfeeding? thanks

Good luck dreamy!

Thanks to bunny's dh for birth story, sounds like she did wonderfully!

MrsMcJnr - v tired here too, for some reason, just as Alex's latch has improved hugely he now seems reluctant to use it. Last night he kept whinging and snuffling around the breast but took an age to get him to feed, not what you need!

Right, I would catch up more but need to change this wee man before going to hearing appointment.

Got dinner at dh's gramp's house tonight, I think I will be aiming to be home by 9pm (we are going for six so shouldn't be too hard!).... so I can veg out.

Hi all still here and still getting pains about every 15-20 minutes. Im not going to even consider going in until they are a lot closer together and stronger. I think these are just moving her into the correct position and then hopefuly they will pick up pace

ineed found this yestreday it may be useful to print out a copy before your appt tomorrow thrush info from bfn

Yey, I finally have the internet back so I can read mumsnet properly instead of off my phone! Never thought to have a look for mumsnet groups or anything on Facebook- does the June thread have a group?!?!

Don't leave us yet mrsmc and other mummies - unless you want to talk in great and gruesome details about nappies .

You can see baby Adam on Tee's MN profile looking rather philosophical and very cute.

June no harm in asking them to be precise about their concerns, they should have done so in the first place.

Is everyone else off birthing or feeding babies? Sigh.

hey mrsmc I really like that mummies are posting here, it's easier to keep up and saves the faffing around or looking for the other thread :D
There's a picture of Adam on Tee's site. If you look on the left and go to "June", click on "I'm home".

Today I can't help but getting wound up by the birth centre saying they wouldn't deliver my baby anymore, wondering whether to bring it up after the sweep tomorrow to see who made the decision and why exactly, it's not like the baby has suddenly doubled in size overnight. They have been feeling ym tummy every week for the past month or so.
I don't feel too good and I can't tell if it's the lack of sleep, or worrying about induction or what (in any case it's probably not labour).

Morning ladies just out of interest is it ok for us Mummies to carry on posting with you Mummies to be rather than move to a Post Natal thread? I want to stay here with you until all the regulars have popped and we can all move together

Littlesarah – it’s just so hard to prioritise sleep at 7pm though when you are used to having the evening as your only window to get things done isn’t it? We must though. I have just got up today, have a migraine and feel awful, I guess it is all catching up; I need to be nicer to myself.

Bunnymother and father – wonderful birth story – well the ending was fabulous – you poor things having to go through all that!! Made me cry reading it actually. Many, many congratulations

Tee – I have heard that Weleda nursing tea is good but I have no personal experience. I’d recommend expressing after a hot shower and preferably thinking about Adam at the time, that was when I got the most out. Hang in there hon, he’ll be home with you soon xx Loved your birth story wonderfully written. Sorry about the bruises, I am being silly about the one I have on my hand from the syntometerine but it hurts like hell. I bet Adam is a cutie

Dreamy – yay!!! Can’t wait for news x

Ineed – sorry to hear that on top of the suspected thrush Emily is having breathing probs too, you must be shattered, hope you enjoyed DS’s sortie!

It won’t be long Looouise

Silkcushion – mowing the lawn is bound to bring the baby on!

Ermintrude – promise to post photos, I am a FBphobe too.

Laura – happy anniversary for yesterday you’ll be glad in years to come that that day is still your own

Hey Doris

Am still here and nothing has changed, I'm not even having contractions or anything so I'm not holding my breath.
I booked for a second sweep tomorrow and hoping this will help...
Had a long walk, LOADS of pineapple and been bouncing on my gym ball to no avail.
Baby's stubborn comfy

Hi all,

Will pop back later and post more but just wantyed to answer Tee

How have you been instructed to express???

When DD2 was bil by mouth, I was advised to have a photo of her very nearby and keep looking at it and thinking of her to help stimulate the let down, then iwas told to do 5 min pumping one side then five the other then 4min each side then 3min then 2 and 1 each side. Before this i hadn't been pumping for anywhere near long enough to start stimulating my supply (and atm don't expect gallons initally I was just getting 10-20ml even with this regime) but with all the pumping your body will recognise the need to produce more milk. Oh and also pumping at least every 4 hours overnight and 3 hours during the day.

If you've been told all this already am very sorry, but maybe someone else will find it useful Good luck and hand in there Tee, as I said to effie there is nothing harder, once you're through this you'lll be able to cope with anything!

morning all

tee glad to hear your home and that Adam is doing better, the photos on fb are lovely! Can't wait to hear birth story And great tip about the hoover can't wait to try that one

bunny congratulations and i hope you and babybunny are well x

ineed sorry to hear you had terrible time at doctors did you make another appointment to see female doctor? Sorry to hear Emily has a stuffy nose

silk remember to take it easy today if you are going to mow the lawn nothing too hard now

looouise glad to hear your feeling more happy today, and you never know might tempt baby to make an appearance

dreamy hopefully this is the start of something for you please keep us posted and sending positive labour vibes

No news from daisy or june? Think it was daisy's induction date today unless she was successful yesterday changing it to Thursday.

Yesterday was DH and I's second anniversary so decided to go for a nice meal and it was great! Had a lot of irregular cramps and contractions but never came to anything but hopefully this is the start of something for me, would love to go before saturday

Mum is off work again today so taking her into town shopping - she is wanting to start buying things for SIL's new baby due in october...sounds silly but sometimes i still feel low at brother and SIL having their 4th so soon after my baby, i mean my baby isn't even here yet and sometimes i feel people are forgetting her already as they go shopping and buying things for brother's baby, when people (except in laws) haven't helped me as much buying things like clothes etc...maybe i'm just being hormonal which is a great possibility

Have a lovely day juner's i'll be back on later hoepfully to hear of new births

x posts again

Loooouise - glad to see you've morphed into a little ray of sunshine overnight (not easy is it?)

Tee - great news about Adam - sounds like he's doing well

Mr Bunny - very good effort at writing the birth story. Sounds pretty exhausting I hope Bunnymother and bunnybaby are recovering well. Seems like I got the name thing wrong as well I promise I'm not making it up people were referring to the new baby by name on fb. (not to self - don't look at fb again)

Dreamy - good luck for today - hope it's all kicking off

Ermin - everything settled down for me a bti overnight (back to sitting in the I'm not giving birth corner) how about you?

Ineed - take that offer and get some zzzzs

Tee - I think trying to catch up on 5 days missed posts would be impossible. Let's hear the birth story instead Love to little Adam.

Think I'll mow the lawn today (front garden looks like a jungle)

Bunny, I loved, loved, loved your birth story, many congratulations on bringing out your baby girl into the world through what sounds like sheer will and determination!!
Your DH is a star too! Well done, can't wait to hear the name and hope you're not too battered in the 'zone'. Lots of love.

Tee, looking forward to your stories too, hope dear Adam is good and happy - no milk advice from useless first timer here I'm afraid! LOL at the hoover advice. I reckon it applies to laundry baskets as well.

Dreamy thinking of you and wishing you a beautiful birth.

Silk your facebook misadventure made me laugh and laugh and laugh. hahahah! This could be a great new hoax, faux birth announcements!

FBers - I'm with Ermin on this, pls post pix on here too!

Oh June and Daisy, where art thou both?? ((raises eyebrows quizzically))

I am not so today, I probably scared baby off! I'm hoping my new sunny nature might tempt baby to come out today

First Adam update...he's breathing 22% oxygen as of about 7:45 this morning. Normal air is 21% so he's getting there!

ermintrude I am currently borrowing an electric pump from the hospital. I tried using the hand pump I bought but it wasn't getting anything at all. There are so few drips at the moment that they aren't even gathering anywhere for me to bring them with me. But I am hopeful this will change soon!

effie great news about Rupert! I hope he's home very soon.

Ineed sorry Emily isn't feeling well. And how horrible about your pain. Stupid doctors...

I'm about to post what we call 'the money shot' of Adam on my profile!!

Congratulations bunnymother and thanks to your efficient DH! It does indeed sound like a heroic morning, bet you're glad that's over and your little girl is out safe and sound .

Tee are you happy with the pump you're usuing? My sis, like you, had to express before establishing b/feeding and found the electric ones at the hospital much better for her than the hand pump she was used to. I've asked her what she did and she said 'took ages'. I have heard about fennel and other things that can help supply but she had no other tips except try to relax, keep trying, and most importantly know that even the little drops you get are valuable to the babe - the nurses encouraged her to bring them every tiny bit to feed down her baby's tube which made her feel 'useful' - and are telling your body to produce more. Tiny babies only drink tiny amounts of colostrum to begin with but it's all good stuff.

Love the MIL tip - trouble is, my MIL is one of those women who 'doesn't like to interfere'. I sometimes think if one of my DC were choking in front of her she'd hold back .

Ineed sorry little Emily is bunged up, hope you get answers about your pain soon.

dreamy fingers crossed this is It!

effie glad to hear Rupert is doing well and b/feeding, hope he's home very very soon.

silk lol at your Columbo act . I'd love to see piccies of everyone's LOs but draw the line at joining FB so hope people will post one or two on MN if they have a moment [pleading hopefully emoticon].

Congrats to Mr and Mrs bunnymother. I did smile at the 'salad servers' reference as I remember them wielding them in front of us at the ante-natal class and thinking the same thing. Also being concerned at the sheer size of them. When they took them out ready to get DS out, I just thought - just hurry up and stick them up there and get this baby out!

Thanks to you all WRT the evil doctor I saw yesterday. Still in pain and had another night of no sleep. Emily's nose it blocked so it's using saline and an aspirator before every feed so she has a chance of breathing during the feed. Sorry to hear you're also in pain Doris. It's obviously more common than the nasty GP thinks....

My lovely friend just text to ask if DS wanted to come over and play this morning so I can come home and hopefully sleep a bit!

Good luck dreamy!!

Morning ladies. Well Ive been having lots of irregular contractions since about tea time yesterday so lets hope something is definitely going to happen today as its babys due date. I do feel like baby has dropped and seems to have shifted into a more central position. All my washing is done so Im going to make sure kitchen living room and bathrooms are spotless shop for last minute fridge necessities iron the kids school and visiting clothes for the rest of the week and hope like hell that kicks more regular contractions off. will post later with any more news

Tee

Fennel tea is recommended. Not too bad to drink but add lots of honey. My milk has been slow but I could feel the difference once I started drinking this stuff. I drink at least 4 mugs a day.

And LOTS of water.

My sister in law would swear by fish pie.

I just got this great tip from my Aunt:

"Okay, so you hear a car stopping outside your house. You glance out the window and see it's your mother-in-law arriving unexpectedly, and the house is a mess. So here's what you do: Run and get your vacuum cleaner out and park it in the middle of the living room. No need to turn it on. When she comes in and sees it, she'll assume you were in the process of cleaning up. If she's a really fantastic mother-in-law, she might even say, "Here, let me help you with that" and "Hoover" (as they say in Ireland) your house for you."

I thought some of you could use the advice!!

Thanks Mr Bunnymother! What a story! And congratulations!

As for me, I am working on writing the whole birth story ladies and, I have to admit, giving up on trying to catch up on 5 days missed around here!

Congratulations to all the new mommies!!!!

Anyone have any tips/wife's tales/whatever for bringing milk on? I'm getting drips, but not enough to put in a bottle and take up to my son!!

ladies! Bunnymother DH here.

Baby girl 3.5kg (7pounds 11) born Sunday 12.04pm. Baby (no name just yet..) and Bunnymother are well.

and in more detail (at request of bunnymother): went into labor Sunday morning 2.30am... contractions about 10 min apart. Contractions 5 minutes apart at 3.30am. UCH advised to wait till 3 minutes apart till leaving home. 6.30 am contractions 3 minutes apart... arrived UCH 7.15am... birthing centre... already 7cm dilated. Not quite the plan! Meconium at about 7.30 meant transfer to labour ward with simulaneous request for epidural. Plan now totally out the window. Shift change meant nothing much happened for 45 minutes!!! (later found out anesthetist didnt get epidural reqeust till 8.15am... he arrived within 5 minutes and completed within 30 minutes). False alarm on baby heart beat drop at 8.30 - 8.45... alarms everywhere.. 10 people rushed in. Doctor in charge excellent... said false alarm. Now 10cm dilated. So Epidural finally 8.45am (even with the 10cm dilate....admitted they wouldnt normally do this... but bunnymother in big pain... and baby was transverse). Pushing hard from 9am. 10am baby still hadnt turned. Transfer to theatre to try the "suction cap". Suction cap got baby to turn... but still couldnt push out. 11ish... epidural top up. Salad servers then came out (biggest ones you ever saw) with prep for ceasar if neccesary. 11.55 all hope on salad servers given up and about to go to ceasar. Bunnymother... "roll drums" says "give me one more go!"... doctor says "ok, but then we go ceasar!".... 12.04pm chuba successfully out! bit bruised and battered but gorgeous! Mum upgraded from hero to superhero!

Hopefully out of hospital tomorrow... another story... nowhere near as action packed... will leave for bunnymother...

MrsMcJnr - What a rough night you had! You did well to get up with ds and host a BBQ, amazingly well!

I would love to go to bed now but I am waiting for Alexander to wake up for last feed before bed, and I'm just hoping it's a big one. My cousin said she had her best night's sleep when she did as we all apparently should and went to bed about 7pm! I guess I could do that one night... hmmm.

Hey Effie, glad Rupert is doing so well! Fantastic news, and still breastfeeding, even better!

Silk and ermin - I'm hoping things are starting up for you ladies!

Right wee man is crying so it looks like I can head to bed, feed and then hope for a good night's sleep!

Nemo – many congratulations on Charlotte sorry that there have been some scary moments.

Doris – sorry I missed that it was your birthday yesterday, hope you had a good one!

Bigcar – sounds like feeding is going really well those pooey and wet nappies are really reassuring aren’t they? I need to try to get Aaliyah to cluster her feeds earlier but I guess it might be down to the heat.

Silkcushion – how are the feet?

Ineedmore – I haven’t done a public feed yet but I did hate doing them with DS. That special area sounds great and I like your Balamory game, might have to introduce it to my DS sorry to hear about the thrush and it certainly sounds like it is, what a tosser that Dr was hope you get someone decent to talk to soon. That is one reason I am glad I avoided the antibiotics at the hospital (though poor DD didn’t and I hate the little bruise on her hand it reminds me that I should have gone through that for her ) I know what you mean about the pre-prepared food, it really helps.

June – poor you you must be really fed up with the Birth Centre remember that my baby was meant to be enormous, too big for my pelvis etc etc and she was 3.870kgs not the 4 or 4.5kgs predicted.

Daisy – they weren’t mean or anything in the hospital, just very medical sorry to hear about your DP’s attitude, I really am, sending you a huge hug.

Littlesarah – I know what you mean, bed becomes a place of temptation rather than a sanctuary when you are up all the time in the night. Well done on the saved milk, I haven’t started but should as I am wasting so much at the mo.

Insy – sorry I wasn’t around to hold your hand hon, so hope you have your lovely babe in arms soon

Welcome Worried

Tee – glad to hear Adam is much better welcome home!

Congrats Bunnymother what an unusual name

Congrats Naat & Llynn – can’t wait to hear all about it!

Must go to bed, so sorry for my disjointed post

Effie very pleased to hear yr news re Rupert. I'm sure you'll fight convince them to let you bring him home soon

It must be Choccie not Insy - but let's wait for someone else to verify before we update the list

Hi All

RE Facebook-- Its great having you all on there and I can sort of work out who's who-- but some I can't - its good fun guessing xxxx lol x

all you have to do now Worried is join us on facebook and then I can incorrectly announce to the thread that you've given birth

yey I'm on the list! I feel proper involved!

Insy - I'm so sorry. Got over excited about the Bunny news and got totally confused. There is a Juner on my facebook with the initals MC and today someone posted on their wall saying congrats on getting yr little girl finally. No other notification of birth or anything on there. I thought it was you. I'll hang up my columbo raincoat now then - sorry.

Borrie - congratulations - good to ehar yr getting over the baby blues thing

This afternoon/evening I have felt a definite change in something. Really crampy period type pains interspersed with some sharp shooting pains in my fanjo and large dollop of uncomfortable backache. Maybe possibly means we're limbering up for the big event in the next few days.

June - fb - clearly I ahven't got a clue who's on there. But I don't think I have you. My intials are VW (I'm on Naat's and Tee's and LittleS and Ineed's and others who I'm now not sure who they are). Bunny's intials are BT (pretty blonde girl) and she'll be on theirs as well as mine

Where are the pictures of Adam?

Hi All.

Massive congrats to Nemo Snow and Naat--Hope you are having fab new mummy moments xx

Hi Worried
Welcome Home and back Tee and MrsMc

Hows Adam doing Tee? Hope the nurses and Drs are treating you all nicely. I know how you are feeling at the moment, I'm sending lots of hugs your way xxxx

I love all the birthing stories- xxx

well Rupert has had another great day- he's been put on 4hourly/ demand feeds and breastfeeding really well. I'm allowing bottle feeds when I'm not there, because he wants to suck and gets stressed and that causes him to recess more.

He is now on 8hourly oromorph ( but not withdrawing anymore) and that should stop on wednesday.

So once he's off that, demand feeding and gaining weight- he will come home. He's doing all three- but drs need evidence. All the nursing staff are being my advocats, as they know he will be safe with me, and I know what I'm doing and we are willing to bring him back for blood tests- so fingers crossed xxx

Its even made me think about returning to nursing- but rather that had happened without a poorly boy xx

Good luck to all the Juners still to pop and congratulations to all the new mummies xxxx

Love you all xxxxxx
ps anymore facebookers-- I'm steph timms- bristol network xx

Pics of Rupert are up on FB xx

Hi All

Still lots of pressure down below - every time I stand up it takes a while to be able to walk without it really hurting, which is a bit of a bind. But no signs of contractions or shows or anything. How are you doing choccie, my fellow due-dater?

insy oops, false alarm . Good luck with the curry and everything.

Borriebear many congratulations on the birth of baby Jasper!

MrsMc if there were lots of clots it could suggest some retained placenta but just one or two shouldn't be a problem

Am going to bed to take the weight off my bump . night night

hi mrsmcj I think the clot thing is fine, I remember having clots about size of 50p with both mine and MW not being concerned, think if they are any bigger you should get it checked out, hope you're resting now x

thanks june - I ended up in both lists on your post so editted it again

BABIES HERE!!
Bigcar - Edward, born 28th May 2009, 3:30pm, 9lb 8 oz!! (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8,dd3 2, due 1st June) csection
Effie - Rupert Edward, born 1st June 2009, 2:23am, 7lb 1oz (3rd child, due 28 June)
Ineed - Emily Rose, born 3rd June 2009, 7.34pm, 8lb, 30z (31, DS 2.5, due 5 June)
Blueberrysorbet - daughter born 4th June (ds, due 3rd June) csection
Borriebear Jasper born 4th June 8 pounds 3 oz
LittleSarah - Alexander, born 6th June 2009, 2.46am, 7Ib 5oz (26, dd 4, due 6th June) homebirth -2 hours!
DorisIsAPinkDragon - Annabelle Rose, born 6th June, 2.24pm, 8lb 1.5 oz (32, dd1 3yrs, DD2 1yr, due 2nd June)
helpivegottogivebirth - Polly Diana, born 8th June, 8.50pm, 6lbs 9oz (30, 1st one, due 6th June)
MrsMcJnr - Aaliyah Rosemary born 10th June, 11.12am 8lbs 9oz (35, ds 1yr, due 4th June) unplanned home birth
Tee2072 - Adam Jacob Fraser, born 11th June, 10.30am, 8lbs 10oz (40, 1st baby, due 26 June)
Snowwombat - Baby boy born 3:01am saturday 13th, 7lb 11oz, 54cm long
Nemoandthefishes - Charlotte Isabel Saturday 13th 7.50pm 7lb14ozs
llynnnn - Isobel arrived 13.06.09 AM
Naat - 14th june baby 2.53 pm
bunnymother - GIRL Richinda (was due 5th June 2009 (34, 1st one!)

LADIES IN WAITING
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