Mumsnet Discussions - Due July 2009 - Part 4 - The Third Trimester.

Welcome to the July thread Darlingo - I'm not in your neck of the woods but check out the Mumsnet Local part of the site for Surrey goings-on. Some local sites are better than others. You might have local breastfeeding clubs where there'd be a mix of first-timers and mums with toddlers.

I was measured for nursing bra today in M&S - the lady seemed very well-informed but 'diagnosed' me as a 36F so I just bought one cheap one at that size as that sounds a bit hmm

It'll see me through until my milk comes in and I throw myself on the mercy of the NCT lady.

Mat Pads - I've bought a few packs from Mothercare making sure I pointed out very carefully to DP where they were in the store. I got a few packs of breast pads too, although a note up on the shelf recommended that new mums would need 100 a week shock

so I wondered if anyone had any experience of the washable breast pads so I don't fill up all the landfill in the West Country?!!

Speaking of things nipple-related, my cousin who lives in Norway and has had three babies there told me that Norwegian women use Limpet shells to act as protectors for cracked nipples, apparently they just pop them in their bras.. She said that her hospital had a supply of ready-sterilised ones shock

is she pulling my leg or do I need to get myself down to the nearest rockpool? grin

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And good luck for tomorrow, Christiana , first baby for the thread, how wonderful! Will be thinking of you

Hi, this is my first ever post on Mumsnet so please bare with me! I'm due to have my second child at the begining on July, which shall be baby brother or sister to my daughter who I can't quite believe is nearly 2 and a half years old already - its gone so quickly! I live in Caterham, East Surrey and I wondered whether there were any other local / localish second time mums who fancied meeting up with the new babies - the way I met people the first time round (ante-natal classes / NCT etc) don't seem appropriate this time round! I am keen to ensure that my new baby has a little group of peers, as my daughter has - plus I would really like to meet other second time mums who are socialalbe, like a laugh and perhaps the occasional evening out (in time of course - not with the newbies!) If there are any existing groups I'd appreciate hearing about them too! smile

Good luck for c-section tomorrow christiana smile

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Bras in my limited experience, don't get 'em until your milk comes in, then RUN to the NCT bra woman in your area. My M&S and Mothercare ones were both crap (in that they were unsupportive and fell apart quickly) and badly fitted - both 'trained' fitters completely got my projected size wrong. I'm smallish in the nork department anyway, and didn't go huge, but engorgement for a couple of days was extremely uncomfortable in a badly fitting bra, and I almost snogged the NCT woman onto her sofa when she provided some relief in the form of a decent one. Oh, and they're still in good nick 3 years later (by the time I could have stopped wearing nursing bras cos DD was down to two feeds a day, discovered I was pg and they were the only underwired ones I had!)

NCT also do a very nice, soft, front-fastening sleep bra, which sounds a luxury but was soooo much more comfy than wearing a normal one at night. Easily popped for night feeds, or just pulled down (worked for me anyway, even with modest bazookas).

Maternity pads I seem to remember bleeding tailed off pretty quickly. But again, I guess we're all different. I remember some makes being really crap though - quickly went on to night-time type normal pads with ginormous wings instead

Ladies - how long roughly do we need Maternity Pads specifically as opposed to general sanitary towels? Bizarrely, proper maternity pads are like rocking horse shit in the local supermarkets & chemists round by me - heaven only knows why. So I'm trying to stock up and have enough packs by me to save a special "further-afield" trip out once the baby comes. So far I've got 5 packs, each with 10 towels. Should that be plenty for the really heavy lochia and then do you reckon normal sanitary towels/night time towels would suffice? I'm sort of reckoning 5 packs equals 5 days? Does that sound like a reasonable estimate?
Thanks in advance. smile

Good luck for the babies arriving this week, can't believe it's happening already

I'm also hoping for my 2nd vbac. 1st one with dd2 went very well and last week consultant said the head was well down so hopefully it has stayed there until I go back next Tues.
Had my hair cut and coloured today for the first time since Sept hmm

Lovely and short and easy for the next few months

Hospital bag is 2/3rds packed, just need to think what the dd's will need if they are dropped off somewhere in a hurry. Finally remembered to buy some rasberry leaf tea today, and have had a cup tonight. Luckily I don't mind the taste, one of the few herbal teas I do like

I needed to wear bras and breastfeeding pads to bed for ages, leaked like a tap for a long time hmm

Also got huge when my milk came in, but that did eventually calm down.
Bought dd2's present from baby today, a 'baby' of her own. All the others she plays with are hand me downs from dd1 so thought she would like one that is hers from the start. dd1 will probably get a game for her Nintendo DS and they are both getting big sister t-shirs I've ordered. I do have a 'big sister' book I should start reading to dd2, we had it for dd1 when dd2 was due as well.

Morning everyone
Looks like we are all on nesting mode heading towards the home stretch. I have Milton'd my kitchen sink this morning (why???) and been doing some food for the freezer. My laundry is also up to date.

I had a terrible night and have been awake pretty much since 2am. I feel very anxious and was really thirsty. I hope this doesn't mean baby is making its way towards an appearance. I have my DC's party on Sat! hmm

Christiana hope your not too nervous about tomorrow. Can't wait to find out what you are having. smile

Queenfee I wouldn't worry about potty training until after baby is born. I have heard a lot of children regress when there is a new arrival. As for the contractions I can't believe it! We are due on the same day...hope you go into labour naturally!

Prams we are using our Phil and Teds E3 again as DD has just turned 2 and not really ready to walk everywhere. DS walks or scoots now which is great. We also have a lighter buggy and buggy board for shorter journeys but again this is all stuff we are re using.

Nursing Bras I am using my old ones until I get BF established as I don't want to tempt fate investing in new ones in case it goes all wrong for a 3rd time. I have spent money on getting all my bf remedies ready to go so I can combat any issues asap. I plan on taking it from there.

Wollyjo have a great last day at work. Hope you get treated to some fab leaving present and cake!

justlookatthatbooty - I'm really disorganised but was stressing about the baby coming. Doing those few bits has put my mind at rest and I can relax again. Of course the rest of the house is a slum but at least the baby things are sort of okay. 5 1/2 weeks to go .... seems ages but also really scarily close.

Bras

I got 3 from figleaves online all in the sale. Last time I went for the mothercare cotton ones but hated the shape they gave me and they didn't last very well. (I'm an average size so I reckoned they should have been ok).

Remember that you will need them for night time as well if only to hold your breast pads in, especially at first until you supplies have time to settle down.

If you are anything like me the first time baby sleeps through a night feed (anywhere from 6 weeks to 6 months) you will wake up with norks like leeking cannon balls!

Last day of work today so I'd better get on! baby due in 10 days grin

Morning all!
hunny - the nice lady at Mothercare said their policy for measuring for nursing bra's is anything from 5 weeks before your due date. She said they would do a regular measure (so rib cage and then the fullest part of your bust), and work out the cup size as normal. Then they would take 2 inches off the rib measurement (since that will reduce after baby is born) and also go up one cup size (as your cup will floweth over once your milk comes in). So if I had measured as an actual 40D today, my "nursing bra size" (by Mothercare standards) would be a 38DD. So in theory, with that info we can measure ourselves. In the end I went to a nice old fashioned lingerie shop whilst in Whitby on hols and she measured my ribs and then just eyeballed my boobs and she was spot on - it then cost me £115 in Hotmilk bra's shock

but bugger it - I haven't had any posh undies in ages. I got quite a good shape from them as well, given they're not underwired and I've got a pretty big "shelf".
The Mums on the board will probably be able to tell us better but I imagine that the bosom will initially get ginormous when the milk comes in and then recede slightly and balance out a bit once the supply/demand thing starts getting worked out.

bras I got these lovely ones - have been wearing them for about 6 months now and they are dead comfy (Dh says they are quite sexy for nursing bras too - always an advantage blush

) Bravissimo are great for fitting too. here

prams my DS will be 2 11 months and I have gone for a double on the basis he starts nursery at school so will be knackard when he comes out being one of the babies - it also keeps him strapped in and he can have his afternoon nap in there when i'm out as he is not showing any sign of stopping it yet. I also considered a buggy pod or a strolli rider (different types of buggy board)- you could also put the baby in a sling when needed and DC in the buggy.

I was awake most of last night with really painfull contractions shock

I was just about to ring my mum to come and look after the kids when they started tailing off sad

Hoping they start again tonight and I go into labour naturally then I won't have to have another horrible discussion with my consultant.

mij hope that baby is the right way round x

Hello everyone. Had my lovely pedicure, feel so beautiful now!! hunny I wouldn't worry about minging feet! They have seen it all before and it was so fantastic sitting there for an hour having my feet massaged and pampered!

I had 6 kids for tea tonight and took them for a picnic after school instead of allowing them to trash my house. What a fantastic idea, no mess, they ran off and played and I sat in the sun and enjoyed the peace! Bliss

Andi0 I agree with bonzodoodah I had a buggy board. My ds was 21 months when dd was born and I kept the buggy for a while, but after that progressed to the buggy board and he loved it.

We have been given a quinny buzz by friends for this baby and in my mad nesting I decided that the carry cot mattress as musty and needed to be washed. I did it by hand and the minute it touched the water it absorbed all the bubbles and I spent the best part of 20 mins rinsing it to get them out! Nightmare. In the end I gave up and its now hanging on the line. (I think it will take days to dry! that will teach me to nest too much!)

Anyway off to collapse on the sofa. Have a good evening everyone x

oh my god Bonzo, are you super organised or am I late. We're due about the same time and I haven't even thought about my bag or washing baby clothes etc. Better get on with it. Perhaps I'm far more pregnant than I realise.

Hey Andie0 have you thought about a Buggy_Board for your older child. It fits onto the pushchair and means they can step on and have a rest when they need but walk the rest of the time without a double buggy. You can also keep him on reigns while he's on it so can't bolt.

Well I've packed my bag (mostly) and ironed the baby clothes and bedding ... feeling abit more relaxed now. Good idea to start filling hte freezer with food that can be eaten with one hand - I'd forgotten about that bit!

Hi everyone
I haven't been on for ages either, and must confess I haven't read right back to see what you've all been up to but wanted to say hello. I can't believe we are all still intact - I was sure somebody would have given birth early by now!
Sounds like we're all having the same grumbling aching type issues. I have such an achy back and long to fold myself in half and have a big hard Thai massage. Sadly that will have to wait.
I am getting masses of BH contractions which quite hurt and also the head is 3/5 engaged already and I'm only 35 weeks. Midwife warned me it's likely to be early and fast this time around - yikes!
Gillyan - re. your 'interesting symptom', I have a variation - loads of dirty dreams but don't really fancy sex with my partner. Is that terrible or a normal response due to him having got me in this situation in the first place?? Feel rather guilty about it! Actually the actual act is rather tricky with an enormous bump anyway isn't it? So perhaps that's also why I'm not really up for it in real life.

Hi all!

Sorry haven't posted for ages but have now started leave leading up to my maternity leave so should have a little more time.

My due date has changed to 27th July so there's a few of us on that day now!

Have just started looking at all the baby stuff as DH just got it out the loft - it's really bringing it home that there will be someone along to fill it very soon

Having a dilemma about getting a new pushchair - DS will be 2yr 9 months and is capable of walking long distances if he choses to but ,as toddlers do, sometimes he choses not to

Also I can see him taking advantage of the fact that he will not be harnessed in and going off to investigate things!! Don't want to spend lots of money as the time it will be used is minimal but am beginning to think I really will need one.
Any advice gratefully received!

I have sympathy with all of you who are potty training at the mo. I have to be honest and say I haven't started trying yet as I don't think he's ready but part of me is thinking I should have tried before the baby. I have asked nursery what they think and they said they don't think he's ready either which does make me feel better.

Good luck to all who may get to meet their little bundles this week

Hello

just got bk from consult all is well and heading towards VBAC

He is also head down not breech any more

so happy days.

Love the idea about prezzie for order child will be using that one thanks xx

ActivityApple mmmmm cider ice lollies ...

Mij I totally sympathise with you! DD did that to me at 38 weeks! I went in as I had decreased movements (naturally she went wild as soon as we got into the ante-natal suite), the mw had a good feel and said 'either she has a really boney bum or she gone breech!'. Luckily as we were at the hospital they gave me a quick scan and she did indeed have a very boney bum!

Hobbgoblin step away from the pc now!!! You can have nice white things in oooohhhh 18 years?? wink

*present from DC to DD* DD is getting a bike from baby! We found a really cute 1st stage Thomas the Tank bike (she is obsessed) in the Sainsbury's sale - we just have to put it together and hide it a bit closer to kick off!

JetLi lmao at Ma JetLi - sounds like my MIL! DD still only has a chest of drawers at 2 and a half...what's the point when the clothes are so small!

cooking our freezer is pretty full with stuff now and lots of friends have offered to shop and cook once baby is here - yay! Luckily DH is reasonably talented in the kitchen department so I don't need to worry too much but it is nice to know we can throw a dinner together at a moments notice (all you get with newborns!)...new mum's should practice eating with one hand and you will soon find which foods are and aren't good with a newborn. They have a sixth sense and can hear a knife and fork being used from a mile off!

Saw my midwife today for my 36 weeks check. BP is fab, baby is still head down and I noticed she's written I am 3/5 engaged - eek! That is a bit scary as I thought 2nd+ babies didn't engage until the very end when you go into labour!

She has written in big letters on my notes that I am against induction for the GD because of my experiences last time with DD. She has made me feel much happier about telling the consultants that even if they really want me to have a hospital birth I am going to go into labour spontaneously and when I see her next at 38+5 she will start doing sweeps for me to help things along grin

. I know sweeps can be blooming uncomfortable but I really hope to get things going more naturally than last time!
She also is happy for me to start on the *Raspberry Leaf Tea* this week - just got to buy some capsules now as I can't keep the tea down!

I guess I really really should be packing my bag now!!

Off to sit in the sun instead though wink

we've had no rain here since the weekend despite weather warnings so I am making the most of it!

xxx

I got HotMilk ones from Bloooming Marvellous's big sell off. They were cheap but quite luxe. Had to fit them myself though...

BTW has anybody got any tips re nursing bras? Anywhere better than others? Do I need to go for a proper fitting or just buy a size bigger?

hobgoblin listen to Patchybob and step away from the computer. I've got beautiful white bedding on my bed at the mo (I have a bit of a thing for nice bedding) but I've just washed my old bedding with BROWN sheets to put on post birth.

I'm feeling all inspired to do lots of cooking myself now but I've still got lots of other jobs to do so think it might have to wait till next week.

I'm in so much pain today, my back and hips are really bothering me and I feel like somebody has kicked me between the legs. Didn't sleep too well last night so just rang to try to get some acupuncture but I think I might have left it a bit late to really get the benefit from it.

patchybob enjoy your pedicure. I could do with one myself but cos my feet are so minging I don't like getting them out. Bit of a catch 22 really lol.

jetli do u wanna send your mum round to my house? I've got lots of cupboard clearing to do!
I'm sure my mum thinks that we live out in the sticks or summat. She keeps saying things like 'oh we need to get him some more cot sheets'. Why? when he isn't even going in his cot straight away. And if we find that we need something we only live 10 mins from Manchester/Trafford Centre and 24 hour supermarkets.
I know she's just excited but as long as he's got the things he needs for the first days/weeks that's all I'm bothered about, the rest we just get as and when we need them and we'll prob save money doin it that way too.

Right I'm off to do some more jobs...no rest for the wicked!

hobbgoblin walk away from the computer!! Lovely as they may be, they won't stay lovely for long!

mumofshorite I'm doing the cooking thing too. Trying to think of things to do with the 3lb of mince I bought yesterday!? Have already done meatballs. Lentil soup sounds like a good idea (not with the mince though!)

Going for a pedicure this afternoon, not the best day to indulge myself as dh company have just announced pay cuts. Well best do it before it becomes a reality!

Have a good day everyone. Off to cook all that mince!!

Morning all! And welcome newbies! Just 7 days left at work now, only I'm going to sort of miss it because at least it forces me out of my pit bed in a morning. I'd be languishing until noon watching crappy re-runs of Quincy and Kojak on ITV3 otherwise.
Had a bizarre argument yesterday with Ma JetLi about the baby not having it's own wardrobe - she wants to know where we'll hang all it's clothes. Mad woman, honestly. Since when would you put a babygrow on a bloody coathanger? Now she's on about coming over to mine and "together" we'll go through every wardrobe and kitchen cupboard, clearing, cleaning and chucking stuff out. I don't bloody think so hmm

- obviously I love her to bits but too much fussing stresses me out angry

- I'm 38 FFS!
Good luck to christiana for the section Thursday - will be thinking of you. Don't forget the peppermint tea & windease for afterwards smile

Am enjoying reflexology once a week now. Relaxes me right down so when I get back from a session I sleep for a couple of hours and it's lovely. I really feel for all you ladies with a DC already; it must be so hard to get any proper rest.
Still haven't packed my bag - can't seem to get motivated with it - I'm probably in denial!! I think it's because I'm still working so it doesn't feel too imminent yet. Speaking of which I'd better go and do some work.

ActivityApple, are you going to post pics of your arse? grin

Brave!

Somebody please tell me that going to buy new, crisp White Company bed linen for my bed post birth is a silly idea. Remind me about lochia please and the fact that it is off my budget scale when I have a non-nesting brain...please...someone!

mumofshortie you've inspired me to get cooking - my freezer currently only contains home-made cider lollies blush

Mij that's frustrating, but at least she was honest - my MW was the same and packed me off to a consultant (who really dug her fingers in and found the head at the bottom without the need for a scan)

Welcome along justlookatthatbooty (great name!)

Speaking of booty, my DP took some more 'bump' photos of me last night and my bump/arse are now so big I look like a pea-head.. I'll post them up later here!

Off to ante-natal class now.. have a lovely day ladies

Morning all,

Just a quickie to say thanks to everyone who added me to facebook smile

It's payday for me today so i'm going out now to buy all the bits i'd forgotten to get before now. I've kept telling myself that i've got plenty of time left yet to get stuff but i'm 38 wks tomorrow so don't think i can use that excuse anymore blush

Morning all - just a quick post to reassure those wanting a VBAC that it is possible even for babies with big heads grin

My DS1 was an EMC as he was forehead presenting, back to back and firmly wedged against my pelvic bone. Both DS2&3 were VBACs and both had head sizes 'above average'. Makes me wince saying it wink

. I was told at a growth scan that DS3 was going to be a big baby, but he was born at 40 weeks weighing 7lb 10 - not exactly big! He just had a big head and that is what they measure at the scan. I have already been told this one is big, but decided not to worry about it smile

HI there

I'm new to this thread.... due on 26th July. It's 3.15am and I can't sleep (drank coffee today ooooops)!

Am preparing for VBAC, after EmCSec 16 months ago.

Very ready to stop work now (still got another 10 days or so!) as running around after 16 month old and working is proving a bit much.
Just want to rest.

Will be hanging out here frequently.

Good luck to you all!

x

Sorry everyone, had a quick scan of latest posts but have just come on to have an agggghhhh! moment...

36wk ante-natal check today, and midwife is '50/50' about which up this child is. Last one did this to me too - couldn't tell if lump at top of bump was head or not. Turned out she just had a bony bum wink

but this time they're sending me for a scan. The issue, apparently, is that whatever is pointing down is so low she couldn't compare it with what's at the top, and that she could get a heartbeat in two different places (around my annoyingly-placed anterior placenta). I grateful she was honest and said 'I really don't know', but it's a week to the scan and that seems like a really long time just now!

Hope everyone else is doing OK smile

I got some cooking done today and put some tubs of lentil soup and chilli con carne in the freezer, a total lifesaver the last time otherwise we would've lived off toast & cereal for weeks blush

Krumbockmummy hiya ! I am also due on the 27th July and also determined to go for a vbac, we can do this !

25th June - Christiana - DC #2 - Surprise
28th June - Woollyjo - DC #2 - Having a girl
29th June - JLo2 - DC #4 - Having a boy
1st July - Mrsmope - DC #2 and #3 - Having 1 boy, 1 girl - TWINS
1st July - moodylou - DC#2 - Having a boy
2nd July - Nicky6 - DC #2
2nd July - pop1973
4th July - ActivityApple - first baby - Having a boy
5th July - soozze - DC #2
6th July - xxhunnyxx - first baby - Having a boy
6th July - Quiltedrose - DC #2 - Having a girl
6th July - MrsCrunch - first baby - Having a girl
7th July - Misspaella - DC #3 - Surprise
7th July - QueenFee - DC #3 - Surprise
7th July - thelollipoplady - DC #3 - Having a boy
7th July - Eviebear
8th July - JetLi - first baby
8th July - rubyriley - DC #3 - Having a boy
9th July - LargeGlassofRed - DC #4 AND #5 - Having 2 boys - TWINS
9th July - London11 - DC #2 and #3 - Having 2 boys - TWINS
9th July - Gillyan - DC #2 - Having a girl
9th July - Hobbgoblin - DC #4
9th July - Vanimal - DC #2 - Surprise
10th July - Mij - DC #2 - Surprise
10th July - Newb - first baby - Having a girl
12th July - Jenny79 - first baby - Having a boy
13th July - Scully - DC #3
13th July - pippa251 - first baby
14th July - Dannyg - DC #3 - Having a girl
14th July - slushy06 - DC #2 - Having a girl
15th July - Acceber - Having a girl
15th July - Lydiathetattooedlady - Having a boy
16th July - BeccaBump - DC #2 - Having a boy
16th July - TheNatty - DC #3 - Having a boy
16th July - plot2 - DC #2 - Having a boy
16th July - Lillabet - first baby - Surprise
17th July - Patchybob - DC #3 - Surprise
17th July - Phoenix - DC #2 - Having a boy
17th July - Bozette - DC #2 - Having a girl
17th July - BrumOne - first baby
20th July - Belgrano - DC #2 - Having a boy
20th July - starmucks - DC #2 - Surprise
22nd July - chellebelle - DC#4
23rd July - Andie01 - DC #2
24th July - ilikeyoursleeves - DC #2 - Having a boy
25th July - PrincessButtercup - DC #3 - Having a boy
25th July - BonzoDoodah - DC #2 - Surprise
25th July - Mickeylou - DC #2 - Having a girl
27th July - mumofshortie73 - DC #2 - Surprise
27th July - krumbockmummy - DC#2 - Having a boy
28th July - Cheekycel - Having a girl
31st July - maidinamerica - first baby - Having a girl*

*C - Sections Booked

18th June - Christiana
29th June - Plot2
2nd July - Gillyan
10th July - Phoenix
13th July - Patchybob
13th July - Bozette
14th July - Mickeylou

Hello to all and the new comers

i must add my name to that list keep forgetting its nice to see that some1 is due the same day 27th july.

Been having braxtons for the last few nights and rib is really sore from baby boy using it as a foot stool.

Got consultant 2omz really not looking forward to that, fingers crossed for natural birth this time. Had emer c section with 1st she was face 1st, bk to bk and 22 hours later got stuck. They also split her head with forceps after pushing her bk up. Still feel guilty after 3 yrs every time i look at her scar think this is y i am wanting VBAC.

Just hoping i am doing the right thing by pushing for natural birth so hard ??

Hello all...we it looks like by the end of the week we will have 3 babies what with LGOR and Christina.......how exciting!

MoodyLou going to add you to facebook nowxx

Am totally full of hayfever so feeling really crappy. Am going to take some piriton as I can't cope any more!!

Had one of ds friends for tea tonight who it turns out is the most obnoxious little toad in the history of little boys....I do hope that my dc never behave so badly when they go to others houses. It is such an eye opener!

Sorry to winge...think I need to go to bed!!

Quick new thing to check up on with you all...

I have turned into a grumpy old witch. I am actually feeling very happy and very content, if a little impatient, but keep getting these bursts of irrational grumpiness at fairly random moments throughout the day. I was a little abrupt with a checkout person who was telling me DS couldn't have a Nintendo magazine because it was 15 rating. I hadn't realised but had had 3 BH round supermarket and was having another at the till and thinking just GIVE ME THE MAGAZINE I NEED TO GET HOME, I am over 15 JUST SELL IT TO MEEEEE!!!!

Am also being a little dim, leaving things places in a vacant fashion and foregtting to pick up mobile, then wondering if it is lost in a shop somewhere. hmm

Also had repeat of waking up crying which I had in v. early pregnancy, plus bleeding gums.

We definitely need a witty/clever announcement thread title, I agree.

Belated Happy Birthday Gillyan, hope your little madam is still behaving

Welcome again MrsCrunch (you are already on the list wink

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Good weights for the twins LGOR, good that they are head down too. Not long for you now

Moodylou - I've added you on Facebook too

Hopefully we'll all have nice easy births the way we want them

I'm officially on maternity leave from today after been on leave for 6wks

Can anyone come up with any good thread titles for when the babies start arriving. Think we should have a new thread for that

Welcome MrsCrunch - join the swollen gang.

LargeGlass - head down is a great sign and a really good weight for twins too - good luck!

MumofShortie - I took my nickname from the The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band - a bit of an odd-funny lot from the 60's. (I'd have been Bonzo but someone had taken that name!).
Sounds like you are doing all the right stuff for your natural birth. And how relaxing to have staff who have time for you - lovely. As for me - I know baby size shouldn't make a difference but DD had a really large head (39cm) and never engaged. After a long discussion with the head of VBACs and the consultant we think she just couldn't get into my pelvis - at 38 weeks she was transverse and then turning round and round and round. I had to be admitted and was in hospital for 10 days while they worried about cord prolapse. Eventually DD went head down - but still not really engaged. So they let me home. But when my contractions started at 41 weeks she still hadn't decended into my pelvis. I had SIX DAYS of v v painful contractions (latent phase labour as I didn't dilate) and I finally had to admit that my water birth wasn't coming and had a C-Section. Only then did they find she was brow presenting. but the consultant and VBAC lady say there is probably some combination of headsize and my pelvis that meant she was trying and trying for all that time but just couldn't get down. Hence - a scan at 36 weeks to estimate head size and see if the same thing is going to happen. They said if I go into labour early it may well be go for a VBAC but each day overdue - and the headbones calcify and are less likely to squash down and so natural birth is less and less likey. Phew ... Sorry to rabbit on - but yes - I'd love a natural one but am having to come to terms with the fact that fat-headed babies don't come out that way grin

Had a scan today 37 weeks the boys are both 5lb 9 smile

and head down.
Having a sweep on thursday getting very excited now, Dp on nights all week so pray they don't come in the middle of the night.

Hello all,

I have just moved back to Balham (after 2 years abroad) and am 37 weeks pregnant (due 6th July, having a girl). I have done all my antenatal classes abroad and would like to meet new mums/mums to be in the area. I feel I have missed out a bit on the antenatal class bonding with other mums as I knew I was going to be moving and now I feel a bit out of the loop.

Hi everyone - its just taken me ages to catch up! i'm like gillyan in the sex department too. almost feel sorry for DH cos i'm so huge! he hasnt complained yet tho! grin

i'm also waking up at the crack of dawn every day angry

got very wound up with DH yesterday for doing jobs in the garden - painting back of house etc. i knew i was being an unreasonable so and so when i was having a go at him but at same time really just wanted him to occupy DS for a while as i have the overwhelming urge to do absolutely nothing!! blush

we ended up taking DS to the beach - i was knackered after tackling the sand dunes.

DS is getting a ben10 scooter from the baby. the hospital here lets your own children in during the daytime visiting. i also read you shouldnt be holding the baby when they first come in . i am worried about how he will react to be honest because we are very close and he is a real mummys boy.

glad you had a nice birthday gillyan

christiana very excited for you and a tad envy

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I am having a bad time now. I am swollen everywhere not sure if I should go to the dr as it is so bad everyone is commenting on it.
I was woken at 7 this am by the doorbell. A very kind binman returning my keys which I had left in my car door - with my house keys on too shock

I really want these baby here now so I can go back to being myself sad

keep crying over everything. My stroller (that I keep in the boot of my car)has given up the ghost this morning which means I now have to get another. An expense I could do without at the mo. I have also had to abandon potty training DS as although he was doing really well he suddenly decided yesterday he couldn't be bothered. So back to nappies. sad

My DH said something funny to me the other day (not sure if I told you) he turned round to me and said that he had looked it up on t'internet and it's true that sperm can help prepare for labour - what did he think it was just an excuse or something grin

Hope things going a bit smoother for everyone now

Bonzodoodah i love your name, by the way, makes me think of the doggie from the Singing Kettle !!

I will keep everything crossed for you that your baby is not too big to have naturally, sounds like you want to avoid another c section, as I do too. In my reading up on vbacs, size of the baby theoretically should make no difference to mode of delivery, but I guess hospitals don't like taking any risks
*'Vbac Handbook' (Churchill & Savage)* *'Blooming Birth' (Atkins & Guderian)*

My consultant is keen to see how I get on, as long as baby is well, labour is progressing, cervix is behaving hmm

they will leave me to get on with it, providing me with pain relief as and when I feel I need it.

I do feel bigger at this stage compared to last time (stretched tum muscles lol/baby ROA so bump pointier) but again consultant said all was fine. much more low down pressure too so that lil' head is starting to nudge down on cervix, feels pretty different from last time, yay !

Is great feeling supported by the staff, last time I was at a bigger city hospital where they palmed me off for 3 days (try a warm bath & a paracetamol) and I still ended up with an emcs !! Here i am out in the sticks and they genuinely have the luxury of less patients and more time with you which fills me with much more confidence I can do this ! grin

Gosh hobgoblin - difficult when you're on your own at night with no-one to say it's okay. Hope they are only BH.

All we can post photos in our profiles on here so no need to go to Facebook to do it (unless you want to)... just go to MyMumsnet at the top of the page, log in and then select the Share photos option. It's nice to have a little bit of info in your profile to say where you are and what you are like (if you want to).

mumofshortie I was hoping for a VBAC but this baby looks ike it is going to be big - so unless it arrives early it will probably be another C-S - sob - not what I want - and I've done LOADS of research and spoken to the head of VBACs at the hospital - but have to face reality. Having a scan at 36 weeks (end of june) to estimate baby's size and then look at plan again. How about you?
I read on the June thread - someone actually did have that scar dehescinece - very scary. I know someone has to be that low (one-in -x) statistic - but to read about it brings it home more.

Oh my Gooooooooooooooood! These Braxton Hicks are freaking me out!

I spent last night not daring to move in case my waters went. Was having BH at least every 5 mins, many of them excruciatingly painful. I was on my own at home and was considering calling exdp at 2am I was so convinced something was happening. Since getting up and doing the school run I've only had the odd twinge.

I can't stand weeks of this, it is scary!

Hey Moody - I've added you too!

Just came in for a quick lurk, will be back to update later.

moody just added you on FB x

Morning everyone
Welcome newbies
I have been away so haven't had time to read all posts.

Christiana I can't believe you are going to have your LO this week. So exciting!!

Gillyan happy belated bday and can't believe how cheeky your LO is being about wanting to come out (or not). Not long now and at least you will be considered term in the next few days.

I have had a great long weekend away with DH sans DC's. It was bliss. The hotel was beautiful and right on the coast so there was lots of romantic walks. I even managed to read a whole book.

It now seems a distant memory and we only got back yesterday.

DD turned 2 last week and the tantrums have increased in frequency and DS has had to go back to pull ups at night as we seem to have failed with the night time potty training. I hope I haven't bitten off more than I can chew with a 3rd due soon. hmm

Insomnia I have been waking anytime from 4am too but being originally from the States I use the time to make some calls back home. grin

Have a good morning everyone.

My insomnia is getting worse! asleep at midnight up at 4am... I don't feel that energy filled at all, I've had a nice calm weekend but I think I'm just getting worried/ nervous/ excited about Thursday.

One of the things I worry about is my incredibly light sleeping - I don't know how I'd manage on a ward. I just hope and pray they can give me a single room.

I have tried to arrange constant care from my DH and put in DD to some holiday club activities at her nursery. Also my mother will come over to help. So I should manage after the C section OK, I do hope I recover quickly.

I've been getting big ankles in the evening too.

By the way, when I saw the consultant on Tuesday she took my blood pressure. It's been 100/60 during this pregnancy, even falling to 90/50 during the middle. As I recounted my last birth story it went up to 148/98!!!!! So they realised I don't want a repeat of that event!

moodylou I've just added u on facebook.

I think this nesting instinct is finally kicking in, I've not had a sleep today (v unlike me) and I've been tryin to get to sleep since about 10.30 without success so I've just got myself out of bed to clean!

Hunny that is very cunning and naughty but he deserves it grin

Facebook Can i join those of you on facebook? Don't want to be missing out on any baby photos now do i? smile

If you want to add me then just search for katharine curling (i'm the only one on there!)

Happy Birthday Gillyan smile

Hi hobnob I’ll be keeping ds in nursery 2 days per week – he’s 3 so most of that is free time anyway and I thought he’d miss the time playing with the same age friends. Also I’ll need some sleep when the baby naps!

Lydia sorry to hear about your mum sad

I hope she sees what the boyfriend is really like now.

ilike sounds like a good idea to not be holding the new baby when ds comes in and we have a few present ideas lined up already. I hope your ds’s trial overnight stay goes well so you don’t need to worry on the big day.

Thanks for all the other tips on bringing ds into the hospital, I think it will be better than waiting until we’re home. I’ve been reading him story books that show visiting mummy and the new baby in hospital and I will be in for a day or two so it would be too hard to wait. I’m not sure he’d go for the tshirt though – he’s not so keen to be a ‘big’ anything at the moment and has already started behaving more baby like. He did enjoy picking a teddy though and even got one of his own out earlier to put aside for the baby as well.

I’m still worrying about when they leave though – having to leave but me staying at the hospital with the baby. I think I’ll try and get dp to line up something exciting for them to be going to do. Lol – he’ll probably be much less bothered than me at them leaving in reality!!

gillyan I had that unusual symptom last time, not so much this time though (much to dp’s disappointment !).

moody our hospital lets the mums children in but not visitors children too – hope yours is the same.

Thanks Christiana I’ll look into reflexology. I can’t believe you’ll have your little one in only four days !!! Really looking forward to hearing all about it smile

Patchy the vaseline is a really good idea, I’ll add that to my bag list too.

I had a mother-to-be massage and pedicure today, totally fab ! Still not sorted out names, we get a new short list almost every day blush

I was really looking forward to the cheesecake in the fridge, but now all I want is icecream grin

mind you I don’t think I could have a stock like that hunny, I’d just eat them all at once!!

Hi & welcome vanimal, mumofshortie, starmucks & zorra smile

I must try to post more often and keep them shorter blush

Happy birthday Gillyan. I've had grey hairs since the age of about 25 and now at 33 have forgotten what my natural hair colour was as i have to dye it every 6 weeks or else have hideous amounts of grey roots! Glad you're still hanging on.

hunny i am very jealous of your ice cream stores. We just can't do that in our house as it all gets eaten straight away! I have an addiction to white chocolate magnums.

I'm also worried about how DS, now 21 months is going to react to the new arrival. He's so lovely and such amummys boy and i really hope he's not too jealous and doesn't turn into a monster. I will be getting him a couple of 'my first JCBs' as a present as advised. They keep advertising them inbetween programmeson milkshake and he seems rather interested!

<Waves>
My EDD was a bit confused in my notes so I've been on the August thread, but I'm actually due 27th July. Will keep you posted as to which month Tiny arrives in!

Good luck and happy thoughts to all other July-ers x

FYI everybody on Facebook - I haven't gone or goin to the hospital but I've just hinted on my status that I might be, hoping the message will get back to my ex and make him wonder if I've had the baby without telling him! (he's being a TOTAL cock at the mo, ignoring calls and texts).
Yes I know it's naughty and cunning of me but I haven't actually lied, just hinted!

Glad you've had a good birthday. I was just sayin today I could fancy some black forrest gateux so if you've got some left over feel free to send it my way! lol

I've had a lovely day too today, me n my mum went to Frankie & Benny's for breakfast, I have to say it was the best breakfast I've ever had in all my life! I'd highly recommendd it to everybody. I think I'm gonna take my Dad next week for Father's Day.
And then this afternoon we've just chilled out in the garden catching some rays and payed a little visit to the garden centre, very chilled out and lovely smile

Gillyan Hope you had a good day. I swear I didn't have a grey hair on my head until I had kids (thats what I tell them eveytime I find a new one anyway!) and now I've loads. I pull them out all the time!! One day I'll be bald!! I hope the baby is behaving tonight!

Well I survived the weekend alone with the kids and we had fun, the weather was great so we just mooched around at home. I am with you all on the ice creams....hunny I didn't know about cream egg ice creams......will be going to tesco tomorrow!

Feel huge now, I saw my mum and she kindly suggested that I am bigger this time than with the others. She has no tact though, after I had ds she came to see us in hospital and bearing in mind it was about 12 hours since I had had him said "My god, you still look pregnant" Duh, did she really give birth to me and my brother! hmm

Glad I'm not the only one with grey hairs under 30!

I'm with you guys on the ice-cream/lollies. I cannot stop eating calypos and snickers ice cream!

had a nice Black Forrest Gateux cake for my birthday.

had such a lovely day, had a few visitors and we've sat out all day.

Only had a few BHs today thank god! 17 days to go......Woooo!

Gillyan happy birthday! I'm only 26 and I've got loads of grey hairs, started getting them when I was about 19! I'm quite lucky tho cos I don't get them round my parting so nobody can see them and Nice and Easy tends to work a treat!

I can't believe how naughty your LO is, does she not know it's her mummy's birthday? I'm sure she'll be worth all the hassle when she finally turns up tho smile

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moodylou I'm defo with you with the hunger and the magnums. I was just saying to my mum I could open my freezer up as an ice cream van, I've got such a good selection; magnums, lion ice cream bars, soleros, Fab lollies, milk lollies, strawberry splits, cream egg ice cream and cookie & cream ice cream. I think i could fancy adding some calypos or fruit pastill lollies to my collection too!

Happy birthday Gillyan

I found my first grey hair at 26 and i've got 4 or 5 now that i'm 30 but i just get dh to pull them out so that i can forget about them until they grow back grin

Can't believe your LO is still giving you a hard time. Hopefully the baby will be really good for you once it's been born smile

My appetite has really picked up since i hit 36 weeks which i'm putting down to the baby having a final growth spurt rather than me just being greedy. DH doesn't always seem to believe me when i say that the baby wants a magnum though!

Morning everyone!

I have just found a grey hair!!!!! It is my 27th Birthday!! I am mortified! It was pure white! I just hope it's a one off!

I ended up in hospital AGAIN last night! I was having rrally strong, painlful and regular contractions. The doc came in as I was having one and put her hand on my stomach and shesaid straight away that she thought I was in labour.

Sh escanned me and baby was still breech and in a very akward position. She was talking me through the section as she examined me only to find yet again my cervix was totally closed!! She couldn't believe it.

Only explanation is that my body was trying to turn baby with very strong contractions. They gave me some co-codamo=al and let me go after I begged them, after a few hours of monitoring.

This baby is so naughty!

Having a nice birthday so far, all my friends are at the Download Festival though so it's a quiet one.

Had the new Green Day album of DD and a huge bottle of the new Gucci perfume of DP. Had money and vouchers too so doing well so far!

Hope you are all doing okay, not long now!!!

Yes and I am another example of 'God, I am truly starving, what can I eat NOW ?' grin

Massive meals (despite tummy squished up to my left armpit) interspersed with substantial snackage, is getting ridiculous.

Heartburn seems a constant though weirdly is worse when I haven't eaten anything- what's that all about then ? hmm

Also feeling knackered and heading to bed before 10 most nights.

Nurturing & nesting methinks...

Morning folks

I'm enjoying a bit of quiet while DH takes DD along to DG's- bliss !

Had a lovely afternoon yesterday at a BBQ- new ante natal class pals, is so nice to have met some new people locally who are expecting babies too- mummy friends I met last time at classes are still fab but is a faff to always be heading up to the city to see them.

Typical bloody Scottish weather though, it pissed it down torrentially, was DD bothered though ?! She had a ball running up and down the garden providing the entertainment for everyone grin

Feeling confident about trying for a vbac this time round, baby in solid head-down, back to my tummy position, def dropped in last few days, consultant obs. fully supportive. Lol I did grill him a bit about hospital policy re timings/monitoring ... ! I know what you ladies mean about coping with a toddler after a c section, would be really hard going but as long as we keep popping those pain relief pills and ask for help with everyday stuff, we should be okay, if it comes down to a repeat c section.

Vanimal and Bonzodoodah plus others- Sorry but don't remember if you have chosen elective c sections or are potential vbac'ers like me !

Christina you rock, girl ! so excited that you will be meeting your wee one so soon, that is brilliant !

Eeek Lydia that sounds like early labour to me. No wonder with all those horrible things going on. I hope your Mum is okay and gives the boyfriend the boot (if not get the police involved - I’m sure what’s he’s done can’t be legal.

Welcome mumofshortie and starmucks good to have you on here.

Ilikeyoursleeves - snap! We were worrying about DD and her first night away - we went out last night to see Bill Bailey (FAB!) so she slept at Mum and Dad’s house - her first sleep-over. And a good chance to get a like-in for us!! Is that why I was WIDE awake at 6:45??? Grrrrrrrr. How did your DD do on Friday night?

vanimal - I’m working full time too - will do until 38 weeks. It’s exhausting. We’re keeping DD in nursery full-time until after the birth so she’s not disturbed too much and to avoid hassle when or if I go into labour. But I’m sooooo tired. Last time we could just sleep when we wanted couldn’t we. This time every minute until bed-time is taken up with making the most of DD. We went to a birthday party yesterday and they had a huge climbing frame/treehouse thingie. So of course DD wanted to spend the entire day up the ladder dancing around at the top (and me dancing attendance at the bottom). I was shattered by the end of it.
I’m worried about the CS with DD too. So restricting. Have you gone to Antenatal classes this time? I have just so I can meet local mums with babies the same age. I found it very isolating last time. I found the NCT coffee mornings and met mums from the A/N classes so that really helped.

oops - BonzoDoodah

Hiya BonzyDoodah,

We do have quite similar situations! How are you finding being pg with a toddler running around? I am still working fulltime (so DD is in nursery fulltime), but weekends and evenings with her are such hard work being so big.

I reckon I'll end up having a CS again (no idea why, just a feeling), so not sure how I will cope with DD wanting carrying, putting in the bath etc. DH has been great though, so will just have to do these things for me as much as possible.

Looking forward to seeing both DCs together though - have asked DH to video their first meeting

I am based in Birmingham, not that close sadly. Am looking out for mums to hang out with on mat leave though, as I found it pretty boring challenging last time.

How are you finding things?

Hello to the newbies, Christiana I'm a little bit envious that you know that by Friday you'll have your baby in your arms. I hope it all goes well.

Only 2 weeks to go for me and only 3 more days at work (yippee!) spent a large part of last week wondering why I was still there and how I was going to get everything done in time.

Bump just feels huge and baby is uncomfortably active. I'm knackered and not feeling great either.

Whinge Whinge

Hello all, I'm taking a brief break from the challenging task of sitting in the sunshine with my new treats from the library

Lydia so sorry to hear about your Mum, hope she's feeling stronger today, how worrying for you. Hopefully having your support plus the anticipation of a new grandchild is helping her through. Look after yourself, too x

Hello to the new ladies, too. Loads of us due in July - last Autumn must have been a frisky time grin

Sleeves hopefully your DS will see his night away as a big adventure - you might end up being a teeeny bit (secretly) put out by how unfazed he is!

I'm not having a sleep deprivation problem, largely because I've been prescribed co-codamol for the SPD which knocks me out of an evening... I can't help feeling horribly guilty about taking it, even though consultant, GP and midwife have all assured me that it's fine. It can't be great for the baby, and I don't know if I'm being paranoid, but he definitely moves around less when I've taken some - I'm worried that I'm creating a mini opium-junkie in there

<imagines baby reclining in there with smoking jacket and opium pipe>

grin

at your unusual pg symptom, Gillyan, (it sure beats my weirdest one of excess earwax.....) Have you been on the Jackie Collins novels in your confinement?!

Hello everyone, what a dramatic turn this thread has taken recently! Thinking of all of you with positioning/crap consultant/early baby worries.

Return of good weather = great for DD's birthday picnic tomorrow but crap for enormous ankles.

Did NCT sale this morning and got a decent moses basket (didn't have one for DD as was lent one which she then refused to sleep in anyway). If we don't use it it can just go straight back into the next sale smile

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This babe is still moving around a lot. Sure it's still head down but def not engaged cos hiccups moving around!

Sleeping - terrible at the moment, waking up throughout the night even when DD isn't too restless. Had a rubbish evening last night as she woke 3 times before we went to bed, couldn't tell us why, wouldn't let me take her temperature, just grizzling and wanting to be cuddled, poor wee thing. Spent the night in her bed so DP could sleep undisturbed and I'd feel less bad about getting him up early today!

I am with you all on the early morning waking though mostly it's in anticipation of DD1 getting up, usually around 5.30/6 angry

It was an unheard of 8.30 this morning though, hurrah !

Fighting the urge to 'nest' as am getting weary now, essentials like the nursery painted, got moses basket,looked out a few sleepsuits/vests and got a few things together for hospital bag all done.

Now all I need to do is kick DH up the bahookie so the kitchen gets plastered & painted hmm

hobgoblin I've been waking up at about 4am every morning and unable to get back to sleep, I've been putting it down to my body saying ''right baby is due a feed, get up!''. I don't think my body quite realises that baby hasn't been born yet!

hobbgoblin i've been waking at 5am every day for about a week now. Think it might be a nesting thing. I wake up and think about things I've forgotten to do!

Have managed to steer very clear of any floor scrubbing though!
(amybe that's owing to me spending the last 8 weeks on hands and knees trying to make baby turn)

I also am having very vivid dreams. Quite nasty ones. Eugh.

Sorry to hear it's going a bit pear shaped Gillyan, but good that baby is staying in for now!

I have made it down to Hampshire for my nice weekend away and have a Christening to attend today which I'm really looking forward to.

Braxton Hicks are a lessening in intensity but still fairly frequent.

My weirdest pregnancy 'thing' right now is waking really, really early in the morning. My bladder has been very well behaved this pregnancy so it's not needing to go to the loo, it's a weird wakefulness.

Normally if I wake up early I do not actually get up until the latest possible moment under any circumstances but today for example I've been awake since 4.45 in huge and lovely hotel bed with no DC to attend to and I am BORED and want to GET UP!

Anyone else like this? Is it maybe part of the nesting thing? I did scrub floors on hands and knees yesterday. I haven't done that in years!

Hi all and welcome to all the newbies!

lydia I'm so sorry to hear bout ur mom and sorry that ur having such a hard time as well.

gillyan have a fabulous birthday, whatever u decide to do x

Just catching up on everyones posts as I've been out of the loop since wed. One minute I was raving that I was finishing work today, and the next I was freezing, had headache, tingling fingertips. By bout 7 that eve I had raging fever which broke for the first time yesterday. Literally spent the last 2 days sleeping, which hips are now complaining about. Should have prob contacted GP but didn't want to make a fuss in case it turned out to be nothing major. Still have the odd headache now though.

Baby moving loads and uncomfortable most of the time. Have very low down pelvic pain, numb feeling in right bum cheek(?)

To crown it all I missed my own farewell at work today

Hi all and welcome to the new ladies!

I went for a big walk today and have been having quite a few twinges but I think it's baby pressing down on my cervix? I'm feeling a bit worried (ish) about having to leave DS when I go into hospital to have this baby. The plan is for DS to stay overnight at his aunties (DH's sister) seeing as we might be in hospital overnight having baby like last time. DS has never ever stayed away from us and although he has had babysitters he has always been put to bed by one of us and woken up in his own room at home. But this time he'd be put to bed by SIL and wake up there without us and I am feeling sorry for him in case he wakes up all scared! He knows SIL fairly well (sees most weeks) and loves his big cousin so I don't know if these are just my own worries?

Anyhoo I have my work night out for me leaving on the 26th June and DH is also out that night so when we asked for a babysitter SIL offered to do a 'trial run' for DS to stay over at hers. I know it's prob a good idea but I'm not looking forward to it for some reason! I just worry how DS would be if he cries or something or wakes in the morn and mummy or daddy arent there! Any advice from anyone? Or am I being a silly hormonal mummy?

Thanks for the nice welcomes, i can feel less of a fraud now for lurking and join in with the chat! Thanks Phoenix for adding me to the list as well.

Queenfee ta v much for the tip about getting a present from the baby to big sis, she will love that. She has already chosen one for the baby which was easily done.

Two more weeks at nursery then we can enjoy 4 weeks filled with toddler pursuits, if my energy levels do not wane grin

Bump def dropped now- i can breathe ! Now the 'fun' low down pressure is an interesting addition hmm

Good idea to put the booked sections patchy you are so thoughful!

Welcome vanimal and mumofshortie

Re pains lydia It seems that some of us are getting some pains etc, but I would get them checked out on monday if you are still struggling. Sorry to hear about your mum. What a lot of added stress for you xxx

Hunny lol at up all night having sex!!!! In my husbands dreams!!

I have just ordered my 2 dc "I'm the big brother" and "I'm the big sister" t shirts. Got them on ebay in the end as it came up in a google search. They are so cute. Plain pink for her and blue for him wiith a white disk in the middle with the writing in it. They are only 4.99 so quite happy with that! Will give them to them the day before I go in I think. DS will probably think he is far too cool to wear it but dd will love it!!! Couldn't get her one and not him though!

Anyway, going to try to get an early night, starting to dread going to bed as I never know what sort of night it will be....nut I know you are all in the same boat. Hope its good for all of us!

Sorry Starmucks x-posts

25th June - Christiana - DC #2 - Surprise
28th June - Woollyjo - DC #2 - Having a girl
29th June - JLo2 - DC #4 - Having a boy
1st July - Mrsmope - DC #2 and #3 - Having 1 boy, 1 girl - TWINS
1st July - moodylou - DC#2 - Having a boy
2nd July - Nicky6 - DC #2
2nd July - pop1973
4th July - ActivityApple - first baby - Having a boy
5th July - soozze - DC #2
6th July - xxhunnyxx - first baby - Having a boy
6th July - Quiltedrose - DC #2 - Having a girl
6th July - MrsCrunch - first baby - Having a girl
7th July - Misspaella - DC #3 - Surprise
7th July - QueenFee - DC #3 - Surprise
7th July - thelollipoplady - DC #3 - Having a boy
7th July - Eviebear
8th July - JetLi - first baby
8th July - rubyriley - DC #3 - Having a boy
9th July - LargeGlassofRed - DC #4 AND #5 - Having 2 boys - TWINS
9th July - London11 - DC #2 and #3 - Having 2 boys - TWINS
9th July - Gillyan - DC #2 - Having a girl
9th July - Hobbgoblin - DC #4
9th July - Vanimal - DC #2 - Surprise
10th July - Mij - DC #2 - Surprise
10th July - Newb - first baby - Having a girl
12th July - Jenny79 - first baby - Having a boy
13th July - Scully - DC #3
13th July - pippa251 - first baby
14th July - Dannyg - DC #3 - Having a girl
14th July - slushy06 - DC #2 - Having a girl
15th July - Acceber - Having a girl
15th July - Lydiathetattooedlady - Having a boy
16th July - BeccaBump - DC #2 - Having a boy
16th July - TheNatty - DC #3 - Having a boy
16th July - plot2 - DC #2 - Having a boy
16th July - Lillabet - first baby - Surprise
17th July - Patchybob - DC #3 - Surprise
17th July - Phoenix - DC #2 - Having a boy
17th July - Bozette - DC #2 - Having a girl
17th July - BrumOne - first baby
20th July - Belgrano - DC #2 - Having a boy
20th July - starmucks - DC #2 - Surprise
22nd July - chellebelle - DC#4
23rd July - Andie01 - DC #2
24th July - ilikeyoursleeves - DC #2 - Having a boy
25th July - PrincessButtercup - DC #3 - Having a boy
25th July - BonzoDoodah - DC #2 - Surprise
25th July - Mickeylou - DC #2 - Having a girl
27th July - mumofshortie73 - DC #2 - Surprise
28th July - Cheekycel - Having a girl
31st July - maidinamerica - first baby - Having a girl*

*C - Sections Booked

18th June - Christiana
29th June - Plot2
2nd July - Gillyan
10th July - Phoenix
13th July - Patchybob
13th July - Bozette
14th July - Mickeylou

@ Guardian of the list.

Welcome to the thread

25th June - Christiana - DC #2 - Surprise
28th June - Woollyjo - DC #2 - Having a girl
29th June - JLo2 - DC #4 - Having a boy
1st July - Mrsmope - DC #2 and #3 - Having 1 boy, 1 girl - TWINS
1st July - moodylou - DC#2 - Having a boy
2nd July - Nicky6 - DC #2
2nd July - pop1973
4th July - ActivityApple - first baby - Having a boy
5th July - soozze - DC #2
6th July - xxhunnyxx - first baby - Having a boy
6th July - Quiltedrose - DC #2 - Having a girl
6th July - MrsCrunch - first baby - Having a girl
7th July - Misspaella - DC #3 - Surprise
7th July - QueenFee - DC #3 - Surprise
7th July - thelollipoplady - DC #3 - Having a boy
7th July - Eviebear
8th July - JetLi - first baby
8th July - rubyriley - DC #3 - Having a boy
9th July - LargeGlassofRed - DC #4 AND #5 - Having 2 boys - TWINS
9th July - London11 - DC #2 and #3 - Having 2 boys - TWINS
9th July - Gillyan - DC #2 - Having a girl
9th July - Hobbgoblin - DC #4
9th July - Vanimal - DC#2 - Surprise
10th July - Mij - DC #2 - Surprise
10th July - Newb - first baby - Having a girl
12th July - Jenny79 - first baby - Having a boy
13th July - Scully - DC #3
13th July - pippa251 - first baby
14th July - Dannyg - DC #3 - Having a girl
14th July - slushy06 - DC #2 - Having a girl
15th July - Acceber - Having a girl
15th July - Lydiathetattooedlady - Having a boy
16th July - BeccaBump - DC #2 - Having a boy
16th July - TheNatty - DC #3 - Having a boy
16th July - plot2 - DC #2 - Having a boy
16th July - Lillabet - first baby - Surprise
17th July - Patchybob - DC #3 - Surprise
17th July - Phoenix - DC #2 - Having a boy
17th July - Bozette - DC #2 - Having a girl
17th July - BrumOne - first baby
20th July - Belgrano - DC #2 - Having a boy
22nd July - chellebelle - DC#4
23rd July - Andie01 - DC #2
24th July - ilikeyoursleeves - DC #2 - Having a boy
25th July - PrincessButtercup - DC #3 - Having a boy
25th July - BonzoDoodah - DC #2 - Surprise
25th July - Mickeylou - DC #2 - Having a girl
27th July - mumofshortie73 - DC #2 - Surprise
28th July - Cheekycel - Having a girl
31st July - maidinamerica - first baby - Having a girl*

*C - Sections Booked

18th June - Christiana
29th June - Plot2
2nd July - Gillyan
10th July - Phoenix
13th July - Patchybob
13th July - Bozette
14th July - Mickeylou

Hello, can I join too? I am due 20th July, dc2, and no idea if it's a boy or a girl. Have balloned this time round and feeling very sorry for myself.

welcome mumofshortie

lydia So sorry about your Mum that's really hard to deal with, she must feel terrible to do that. Hope she gets through it ok. Re- your symtoms, I've had all of them but then they lead onto regular contractions hence trips to hospital! maybe it's more noticable second time round.

I have an unusual symptom for late pregnancy..I am so horny! I don't know whats up with me!

Well had only a few BHs today and nothing regular so I'm sure thatthe fact baby is now breech is having an effect. I bet I do end up making it to 2nd July now, only 20 days to go! I feel lighter too, baby had dropped a few weeks nack so the heartburn and breathlesness ahd gone anyway but since she's gone breech I feel so much better. her head had been really low and it was painful to walk, Things are perfect now! Breech = deccision definately taken out of my hands re c/s too as not recommended to try and deliver a breech baby with the bad tear I had. maybe it will all go smoothly now and she'll stay put!

It's my birthday on Sunday and I can't plan to do anything as not allowed to leave the house or go anywhere etc. I'm not actually bothered though, I'll be 27 years young!

have a lovely weekend everyone xx

oh and welcome to the new ones! vanimal and mumofshortie I am sure the guardian of the list (phoenix) will be along soon to put you on there!

i have those low down pains too, pains in vagina, and arond hips and lower back... think must just be late pregnancy stuff?

Hi all
Off to my moms this weekend and I could really do with the time out to think about options. I feel so confused. Had very long appointment with Consultant yeaterday ended up in tears she was really trying to push her opinion on me so we ended up with stalemate. Am going back to see her at 38 weeks. (am 36+3 now)
I am having all the same symptons and have also started an intense program of evening primrose oil, sex, walking etc to try and get things ready.
hi newbies*
*siblings last time DD came to see me in hospital with a present for DS and DS had 'brought' a present for DD. Seemed to work ok for us smile

I am really fed up today finding even the most normal thing almost impossible and in the middle of potty training DS and this is causing me problems having to keep going up and down stairs I can feel the SPD returning sad

lydia so sorry to hear about your mum, I know what it's like, my mum has tried/threatened it quite a few times and it's awful. {{{{big hugs}}}} x

I'm also gettin funny symptoms, pubis is very sore, fanjo feels tender too like I was up all night having sex (which I defo haven't!), and I've got a heavy, achey, sore feeling like I'm on my period, but not actually getting cramps or BH.

My cousin's baby was born last night (11 days over due) and I'm so jealous, I'm gonna concentrate on doin some nesting n then I'm gonna work on gettin this baby out of me!

glad im not the only one becca saw my midwife on tues who said with everythings thats happened with my mum/brother/partners redundancy/business closing...the stress could bring on labour early so im panicking a bit and trying to relax but finding it so hard! also nervous that at 34+6 on tues i was measuring just over 39 weeks eek!

Hi there,

is there any room for another one on this massive thread ?!

I have been lurking since the start of it but not got off my backside and actually posted !

My second baby is due to make an appearance around the 27th July, no idea if a girl or boy. My daughter is three and a half, slowly coming round to being a big sis grin

Have really enjoyed reading all your posts and look forward to joining in the banter for the last leg !

Hi Everyone! grin

It's been ages since I popped in here, but since we're all getting so close ( shock

) I thought I'd say hi and wish those of you who are imminent lots of luck!!!! smile

I'm 34 weeks today and this little guy is not in position at all! Anyone else????

I'm with you on those symptoms lydia !

- lots of strong braxtons mainly in the evening but really taking my breath away and having to breathe through some of them!

- period pain low down in between the braxtons (having them now actually!)

- really heavy feeling down below

- generally thinking 'this could be it' about 10 times a day!

and I'm only 35 weeks so trying to hang on a bit longer, seeing my mw on Tuesday so will get her opinion!!!!

ooh two more symptoms
*hot flushes
*my pubic bone is sooooooo sore i cant even manage a delicate ladylike cough with out it killing me!

hi everyone, i broke the computer after my last message whoops i got a telling off! finally fixed agaimn. ive tried to have the usual scan through to get up to speed!
*gillyan&christina) i hope your babies turn in time, gillyan you sound like you've had a very eventful couple of weeks!
phoenix we moved dd in to her own bed, she wasdoing really well but past few days has been getting in to our bed at silly o-clock!
hunny its your baby ulitimately so dont be bullied by ex or anyone else regarding pram, surname etc!
well i am now un-employed, the business closed today! have had a crap week, my mum tried to kill herself as shes not handling the death of my brother or going bankrupt, nob head boyfriend etc! he actually sat there and goaded her in to the overdose and alcohol!
i just wanted to ask you ladies for advise too, ive been having these symptoms for past two days and dont know if i need to speak to midwife or not, its just i never had them with dd and want to make sure everythings ok
*lower back pain coupled with period pain
*strong, but irregular BH where the period pain gets worse
*when having BH i feel like i need to (TMI) open my legs by either squatting or sitting on the loo the pressure down there, between my legs is so strong!
*cramping in the tops of my thighs!
normal or not i have no clue!!
anyway i really hope evryone is ok and looking forward to their soon to be arrivals!
any ideas or is this normal

Hiya vanimal and welcome. My due date is 9th too although I am booked for a c/s on the 2nd! Won't be long now!

scully hello - DD is okay, she got very upset at leaving me in hospital and wanted me to come home. She knows I was in becuase baby sister was trying to get out too early. She kept talking to bump and saying 'stop being naughty baby sister'

I've started to get really upset about Dd though as I never see her. She's still in nursery Mon, Wed and Fri and we're keeping hwe doing that till I recover from c/s then dropping her to the 2nhalf hrs a day for pre-school. The Tues and Thursday I'm having to get people to have her all day as I am not sleeping. I really miss her and I'm convinced she's going to start hating me, then the baby will be here and I just feel really bad on her. people keep telling me she won't rememebr any of it in years to come.

She's started saying she doesn't want to go to nursery and wants to stay at home with me, I thik it's just cos I was in hospital.

Hi vanimal - welcome! My DD will be 2 in early August and I'm due 25th July ... first by CS but hoping to have a VBAC this time (but not looking likely) so looking quite similar. Hope all goes well. Where are you based? I'm in South Manchester.

Hi everyone,
Scully he's in Australia for 2 days, spending most of the time away in Singapore. A very fleeting visit but not the best time to be away!! I'm only 35 weeks so am pretty sure this one wont come while he is away! It is hard coping with the 2 older ones 24/7 though, but they are old enough now to be quite self sufficient. Hooray!

Re other dc coming to the hospital. My ds was 21 months when dd was born and he didn't really have much of a clue to be honest bless him! On the way to the hospital DH stopped to let him choose a teddy to buy her and he still talks about it! He had a broken foot at the time and I could hear him walking down the corridor, clippity clop all the way! Looked out and there he was carrying this enormous teddy! So cute! We had a present from the baby to him. They didn't stay long, but I am gladdh bought him.

This time round they are so aware and are expecting to be collected from school with the news of what it is and bought straight to the hospital!

Backache not so bad today but didn't sleep much last night. Going to have a little sleep before I collect them from school.

Haven't packed my bag yet, keep putting it off for some reason! Will do it next week. One thing I took for both my dc and will do again is some vaseline to smear all over their bottoms for before they do that nasty black first poo! Makes it 10 times easier to get off!!

Hi,

Can I join in? I am 36 weeks pregnant with baby number 2, due on 9th July. I don't know what I am having.

I have a nearly 2yr old daughter, born my C-section, although I am planning on birth via the regular route this time!

Am happy to share my experiences, or just whinge about being so enormous now grin

My baby is also head down feet to the right and has been for a while now

Lots of movement still but position doesn't seem to change much.
I had a c/s with dd1 because she was breach, my recovery was fine and although my preference is for a vbac again with dc3, it wouldn't be the end of the world if it was another c/s. Main issues I have with c/s are not being able to lift dd2 or the washing, for example, which although people say just don't do, in reality it isn't always possible to ignore hmm

Also you aren't supposed to drive for 6wks after any major surgery, it's an insurance issue. I don't know about the UK but here you can get a letter from your doctor to confirm you have recovered ok and some insurance companies will accept that.
Good luck for next week Christiana, how exciting, probably our first baby

Your having such a stressful time Gillyan, sounds like you're coping well with it all though. How is dd, understanding much of what is happening?
Did your consultant say they would induce you Phoenix, or just break your water? I've been told that if I go 2 days or more overdue they will induce me, but because of c/s they will not use drugs, but a balloon/catheter which is inflated in the cervix.
Sozze, when dd2 was born, dd1 came up to the hospital twice to see her before we came home. She had a 'big sister' t-shirt on and was very excited (she was 3.5yrs). This time dd1 will be 7 and dd2 3.5yrs and both will have big sister t-shirts to wear as a surprise and I think dh will have trouble keeping them away from the hospital

If you're there for a couple of days and your dc are old enough I think it is nice for them to visit in hospital and see where mummy is etc. Kids are usually really interested in the doctor/nurse side of things, and any gadgets in the room

Wow Patchy, how long is dh in Australia for? Hope your baby behaves whilst he is gone

I'm loving the cooler weather we're having down here now, around 7deg at 6.30am when I get up and highs of around 20deg during the day and sunny. So much nicer than the months of humidity I endured in 1st/2nd trimester shock

Have a nice weekend everyone

Im 36+1 I'll be 37 next thirsday. That'll be a bit too sound won't it. Just dying to getthis pregnancy over with now as sick of all the uncertainty!

They are scanning me again because of the risk of the cord prolapse.

I will be 38+6 next Thursday. How many weeks are you? They try to do turning between 37-38 weeks I think, well that's what they said to me here. As you say no point if you are having a section anyway, so not sure why they would scan you even?

Morning all! What alovely sunny day!

re- Breech - baby was head down, had been for weeks. They scanned me last week when I went in and she wa shead won then too, and all through my notes she has be described as 3/5 engaged so can't believe she's turned now! As soon as the MW said she thought she may be breech it made sense as the nightbefore I had een saying to DP she felt different. I didn't notice her turn but she is SO active and really never keeps still.

I have definately got an irritable uterus so yes anythig like her turning would start contractions off, even when she moves it does.

christiana I'm feelin okay, you? How many weeks will you be when you have your section? Doc told me to go backnext wk ( 18th ) and they'll re-scan me and if she's still brecch they can do the external turning thing but he said as I am booked for a section anyway there's no point, so I wonder if he'll do the section next week?

I think we're all finding it hard to sleep. Magically my DD (who was going through a phase of going to bed at 10pm - lasted 3 weeks!) has been sleeping through now for three nights... But I wake up at 5am precisely.

Ordered black out blinds for nursery AND my room as I'm sure it's light as well as nerves as well as discomfort related...

Morning Ladies
well I'm shattered today - woke about 20 times in the night to either turn over (major undertaking - shift bump, supporting pillow, bedclothes, ... wriggle round to get comfortable etc etc), go to the loo (again?) or leap out of bed with raging leg-cramps. Then to top it all I woke up at 6:30 and just couldn't get back to sleep. How unfair is it?? Bump aches today and I'm sure this one is lying sideways.
Sorry for the moan ... just shattered and aching. Sigh.

Morning, I'm so tired today. Ds has been getting up around 5.30 all week and not going back to sleep in our bed. I went to bed early last night and he was up crying for a few hours with leg ache so it was still after 11 when i got to sleep and 4.50am this morning 'muuuuummy, i'm awake. I want to come in your bed' angry

. Luckily he went back to sleep til 7 but i'm still tired.

At my hospital you can take your own children in but they don't like other visitors children in. We've got ds a Leapster hand held game thing and some games from the baby.

The more i think about my birth options the more i don't know what to do. I just keep thinking if they do break my waters and i don't go into labour then i'll end up with an emerg c-section. Or if they break my waters and i do go into labour and the baby is back to back, like ds was, or if my previous scar ruptures, or if i have a horrific tear because of the size of the baby....Oh i don't know. I'm back at the hospital next week anyway so i guess i could go armed with some questions hmm

Of course if they can't break my waters it doesn't matter anyway because my c-section is booked already and i can still change my mind about induction too. Aaaarrrggghhh

Thanks everyone for your kind wishes. I am really getting quite excited now but also keep thinking of things I haven't done - like order little mattress for the Moses basket and things! How could I have forgotten that!

Also I am now just sooooo excited to find out whether it's a little boy or girl!

Also ordered Bravado nursing bra as they were very good last time, have space to stuff cabbage leaves in them which was my top tip last time for enormous achy boobs. Put them in the fridge and then a leaf per breast - lovely.

Gillyan how are you today?

Sleeves - I ate a whole pizza yesterday too!

Soozze I'm sorry your appointment was so stressful. But the curry/ sex/ and pineapple stuff sounds quite fun! You can try reflexology too..

Useful to hear tips introducing DD to the new baby, I have a few presents for her (including a PINK kids camera so she can take lots of piccies), and some bath toys and a new cuddly toy. I've also bought the baby a present for her to give him/ her if she feels like it.

I think we can bring our little ones in to our hospital. Otherwise I wouldn't see DD for a few days which would be horrid!

Bozette thans for that lovely c section story, I hope it is the same kind of experience for me.

Finally settled on names I think! Such a relief.

My ds will be getting a pressie from the baby too but not sure if that will happen in the hospital though as was told at antenatal class that children aren't allowed to visit due to new hospital policy angry

I'm hoping that they won't be that strict once i'm there though and they'll let ds in for a bit.

sooze I think my DS (21 months at that time) will come to the hospital with DH to meet baby. I have read that it's best for you not to be holding or feeding the baby when your DC comes to see you, but to give DC loads of cuddles and attention then introduce them to baby. Baby will have a fabby pressie for DC too of course!

Wow there's been loads going on here! My laptop died last week so ended up buying a new one so I'm just really getting back online and checking how the July babies are behaving. Best of luck to everyone especially Christina Gillyan & hobgoblin, I wonder who will actually have the first baby? It's very exciting!!!

Well not much exciting from me, I've only got a week left of work and I'm soooooo looking forward to having some chill out time after that. DS will be in nursery 2 days a week until early July then down to 2 mornings so at least I'll get proper rest then although I will prob go into nesting mode. I am going to start packing my bag this weekend too, it all doesn't seem that real yet though!

I'm starving loads too, yesterday I went out for lunch and had a whole pizza, then had loads of cookies in the afternoon OOPS!

Hope everyone is doing OK

wow gillyan, you're certainly being kept on your toes! you're so lucky to live that close to the hospital. Like ruby my baby's been head down feet to the right for ages now, I figured there was no more room to turn.

Today felt like first day of mat leave and I just slept most of it blush

I've been off all week but had ds and still lots to do around the house etc..

becca sorry you're having such a hard time with the consultant. It is hard not feeling like your on a conveyor belt to induction sometimes. I had my appt yesterday and they really pushed for induction (not at 38 just if I hit 40 weeks). The room was really hot and I ended up bursting into tears, not my finest moment. He was really nice about it though. I guess will try all the curry/pineapple/sex stuff over the next few weeks and hope I don't get to 40 weeks.

ruby I didn't mean an outfit for me blush

more for the little one. I'm overthinking it with all the cute babygrows out there. For me it'll be joggers or other maternity wear too

phoenix yep my hairs are growing back way too quickly, they're usually slow too so it's annoying. I'm glad you had a good appt. Does that mean if they can't break your waters they will send you home until the 10th?

krumbockmummy I've been trying to get my baby to kick/nudge dp when he's asleep as thought it'd be funny. She hasn't obliged yet though, I imagine I'll get a similar reaction

lol mij at the peas and torch method.

How are those of you with dc's going to introduce them to the baby? Is it best to do in hospital or wait until you get home?

PS wonder how mavornia is doing?

Also still dithering about childcare during/after ML. Did you keep yours at CM/nursery or have them home with you to save money? Was it ok or would you rather just sleep? Do the DC need some 'normal' time out with the new baby in the house or do they need to spend as much time as possible with them, adjusting?

Hey, good luck Christiana! I have a colleague at work who was thrown off the sofa by her LO turning at the last minute, but a friend whose DS was breech because he had the cord around his neck and she was so glad she hadn't waited for labour. Whatever the outcome, you'll get a gorgeous wee baba soon and it'll all be fairly irrelevant. I had an emergency cs and found recovery a bit difficult, especially with residual SPD, but DD is so worth it all! I got staples in my scar so no nasty micropore to peel off!

Gillyan so sorry you're having a hard time - fingers crossed once LO is out they'll be angelic for you!

LGOR and the other twin mums, I've no idea how you're still standing at this stage! Big fingers crossed for you over the next few weeks!

Really wishing I was having a July baby still - November is so inconvenient work-wise and because all our birthdays are in Nov/Dec, but beggars can't be choosers, eh? Just relish that when you're BF in the middle of the night it's not pitch black and Baltic!

FIngers crossed as ever for you all xxx

Wow! Things are hotting up around here!!

Christiana next week, how exciting! Gillyan hope you're getting plenty of rest and being completely spoiled.

Just want to reassure those booked for c-sections that they are fine! I had one for breech DS. It was very relaxed and calm, no stress and a lovely experience. I stayed in for exactly 48hrs and went home as soon as i was allowed.
The midwives were very helpful with breastfeeding and made sure i was happy before i left.
The most important thing to do is to make sure that you take regular analgesia rather than waiting for pain. I took voltarol and co-dydramol regularly and continued once i was home for a few days. I also got mobile as quickly as possible and within 3 weeks was walking 2 miles and driving again. I was lucky in that i'd managed to stay reasonably fit throughout my pregnancy, which helped i'm sure.
I also reccomend big cheap granny pants from tescos or asda to go over the scar!

Clicking i heard that loads with DS, but have only once or twice this time. I've no idea what it is!!

OMG Gillyan Hope you're ok and just taking each moment, hour, day at a time. My baby's head been down though free, back to the left, feet to the right, for many weeks now and never dreamt that it could turn!! shock

Did you feel it turn? Is that what started off your contractions do you think?

We all have ideals re our birth plans but most important of all is the safety of us and our LOs. I want everyone on the July thread to have happy outcomes regardless of method of delivery.

Am feeling VERY excited at the thought of us popping one at a time. Also confess to a little envy

that might get left behind (as I'm a natural 40wks + 10 gal) and would LOVE to deliver naturally any time after 37 weeks grin

but suspect not gonna happen!!!

hunny If I had a £ for every time someone has said "you're huge" or "are you sure there isn't 2 in there" so rest assured you are not alone. Have also had comments like "it really is just your bump" or "it's all up front nowhere else" Said to midwife today that folk like to comment (and why?) She said that those carrying back to back will naturally have smaller bumps than those whose backs are sticking out the front. Think it's a common complaint by PG mums as midwife seemed familiar with the topic!!

LargeGlassOfRed Don't want to measure my bump but can tell when catch a glimpse in mirror en route to shower that I am officially a weeble wink

And it's gonna be oh so saggy when baby comes out blush

But on the plus side, we can lie on our tummies, hoorah!!!

christiana Can't wait to hear your news!! Good luck!

Hi all, quick update bump has dropped loads so easier to breath but harder to walk, did a belly cast the other day pics on profile, was quite fun dd2 really wants to take it to school grin

Had a really positive meeting with the head of midwifery about my birthplan. She was lovely and very supportive, have compromised on a few things but on the whole she was very supportive of natural birth.
She also rang one of the consultants and got them to agree to give me a sweep at 38 weeks, if I go that long.
I have a scan and consultant appointment on Monday and just praying all goes well.
I have a 50 inch waist now shock

Christina OMG, next week! Hoorah thats fantastic, so exciting. You can be the c section guinea pig and let the rest of us c sectioners know what to take, do etc! (Thats if you don't mind!!)

I hope the rest of you are ok. I have terrible back ache tonight, think I was on my feet too much today. I was at school teaching this morning and the Head teacher is def getting twitchy about me going in to labour! She found me sitting on the floor with a group of children and had a panic, insisting I had a chair and then moved us all into the library so I could have a more comfortable chair. It was so funny as I was actually quite happy on the floor!!

Have a good evening everyonexxxx

gillyan i'm OK with a c section actually - had such a dreadful birth with DD.

I tried everything I could for about 8 weeks to turn the baby and now I've done that I have mentally prepared myself for c section and I am hoping now that this baby is NOT going to turn!

Gillyan what a nightmare! I can't believe she was partly head engaged and then she's just decided to turn herself round! How naughty!

christiana how exciting! Looks like u'll prob be our first Mum! Gosh it's all getting a bit scary that these babies are starting to make appearances!

Just been to a guided birth class and there were quite a few women who are due end of July - August and they're bumps are bigger than mine! I think my bump is just about right, so I wonder why ppl (mainly neighbours) insist on telling me I look like I'm about to pop and get comments like ''well u can't get any bigger'' or ''are u sure there aren't 2 in there?''. I've obviously not abnormally big when women who are due a month later than me or bigger than me!

And my Dad is starting to irritate me cos every single time I speak to him or see him he says ''you're still pregnant then?'' he's been saying it for about 2 months now and it's just not remotely funny anymore! angry

. Sorry I think I'm just gettin tired and irritable today!

Packed mine and baby's bags today so at least I'm one step closer to being ready. Just need to feather my nest now! smile

Wow it's all kicking off isn't it!!

Hope you're ok Gillyan.

midwifes appointment a couple of days ago and head's engaged already! I tried to do a search on archives to find out if that means early labour (as it's my 3rd) but you just get polarised replies - complete ends of the spectrum from 'head was engaged for 7 weeks...' to people who had the baby the next week. I'm 37 weeks on tuesday, so guess that makes things easier, but it doesn't help with the waddling!!

I had an acupuncture session the same day, so maybe it's all linked...

anyone else got that grapefruit between the legs feeling?!

Gillyan -

Scary stuff, bet you don't know if you're coming or going. Hope you're getting plenty of rest

Christiana - Wow, a week to our 1st baby

Well my consultant appointment actually went ok. They aren't going to do a growth scan as they know the baby is big so it's pointless according to them hmm

(measuring 43cm today shock

) So i'll be going in at 38wks where they will do a sweep and see if they can break my waters. If they can they will and see what happens (if no labour then it will be emerg section). If they can't i've got a c section booked for July 10th so i'm quite happy. I wasn't keen on been induced but he explained it all and was very nice. Because of the c-section last time they will not use any prostin it will just all depend on if they can break my waters.

I can't believe how many problems you're having Gillyan! I'll keep my fingers crossed that the baby goes head down before your next scan.

Mine's been head down for about 4 weeks now and then the other night he moved and went transverse. I was not impressed. He's started to move back down again though so i'm hoping he's fully head down again by the time i see the midwife next week.

Christiana I can't believe that you'll have your baby this time next week shock

You'll meet your LO before most on the June thread have met theirs!

Looks like this is it ladies - the babies are coming, ready or (in my case) not [sheer panic emoticon]

bonzo I think baby was traverse yesterday as I explained how my tummy had looked. She is extremely wriggly and the doc said he was worried she would lay across me. She defo was bum down down though so think thats why he let me go. I have read up on cord prolapse - VERY scary. trying not to worry. I think he said the cord has gone under her head from the scan, thats why they are worried. Glad yours turned, maybe mine will too!

christiana Ooooh ow exciting you'll be the firts of us probably! If baby turns before then will you be able to cancel the scetion?

Poor you Gillyan all these things happening. It must be really stressful. Did you get scanned?

I am just back from seeing consultant and have been booked for a c section next Thursday 18th June. Quite amazed. REally REALLY need to pack my bag now!

Eeeeek Gillyan scary stuff. At least the baby is breech and not transvere. My DD was transverse with her feet over my cervix and they wouldn't let me go home (I was in for 10 days before she went head down). They told me that if she was breech or head down - if the waters went the head or bum would block the cervix and prevent a cord prolapse. I don't understand why they are worrying about a breech if that's what they told me. Cord prolapse IS very scary - there was a thread on here about it (thank goodness I only read it after my incident). I'm NOT going to find it for you but maybe you could ask for clarification on the bum thing.

Otherwise you're nearly term so it could be safely any day now. ((((big hug))) and lots of luck and try not to get too stressed about the cord thingie.

Gillyan you are having such a nightmare aren't you, its just one thing after another. Try to stay calm, it all sounds so stressful for you, but you do sound quite calm!

Re hunger, I am finding it really hard to eat very much at the moment, after a few mouthfuls I feel like there is no more room to put any more food. Also get a horrid burning sensation in my throat which puts me off!

DH has gone offf to Australia now so feel quite anxious that it may all kick off while he is away! He is in Singapore for 3 days first so its only 14 hours away!? Anyway hoping for lots of presents on his return!

It looks like we are all reaching the end of our pregnancies, wow, it has gone fast.Just counted and its 32 days until my c section! AARGh! Plan to pack my bag and get organised while DH is away. I made him put up the cot before he went so I can sort the baby's room out. Very exciting.

Anyway, hope that you are all ok and that the babies manage to stay put for a little longer! xxx

BLOODY HELL!!!!!!! Hello everyone

Just got back from seeing the conultant! The baby is now bloody BREECH!!! I can't believe it! He said the concern is now not that she will be prem but as I am 36 wks today and have had all the steroids etc. he said the worry is if my waters go ( which they did with DD ) that the cord may prolapse. He said ususally they would keep me in but as I am so close to the hospital and I seem sensible hmm

I can go home. But he said the minute I have any more tightenings/pain/just a funny feeling I am to go straight in. He said if my waters go to dial 999 and he said it doesn't matter if I have not sorted childcare he said just bring her with me and the midwives would look after her. he's booked e back in to see him next Thursday for another scan to see whats going on.

Can't believe that if she doesn't turn the decision would of been taken out of my hands after all about mode of delivery!

I carried on having tightenings all of yesterday and ended up ringing the mat ward and speaking to a midwife. She agreed that I sounded sensible enough and no need to go in. She just said if I get one pain then go straight up.

I am a bit scared now about my waters going but don't want to be in hospital. I think if the tightenings kick off again ( which they were this morning ) I'll have to go in and maybe stay put.

Just can't believe this is happening!

Not ate them all at once btw

Ah i don't feel so bad for eating all ds' babybels now

Or the 3 slices of ham i ate straight from the packet last night blush

There you go phoenix get to asda and stock up on babybells. if its any consolation though the thorntons toffee has made me feel a bit sick. grin

OCED - i think i have that too! xx

lol bonzo - well eating your leg would certainly solve the cramp problem!! grin

Phoenix I was told by diabetes nurse at the hospital to snack on meat or cheese products if I was really desperate as it doesn't mess your sugars up too badly

Mini sausages and cheddar mmmm!

There's a woman on Jeremy Kyle who claims to have 'Obsessive Compulsive Eating Disorder' I think I might start saying I've got that too. ''I'm not a fat greedy cow, I've got OCED!''.

times i mean, not rimes hmm

With you on the feeling hungry and it makes it 100 rimes worse cos i can't just snack on any old crap from the fridge cos of the GD. I don't think i'm meant to snack full stop but i have to hmm

. No matter how big my meals are i'm starving before the next.

I'm seeing the consultant this afternoon. Good luck to everyone else who is too

Gillyan and hobgoblin hope your LO's are behaving and staying put

lol at Mickylou ... with you on the starving all the blinkin time .... I'd eat my own leg some mornings.

I had the same leg cramps last night/ this morning. I scared the crap out of my hubby by squeaking out loud then doing a sideways commando roll out of bed ... crashing onto the floor and then jumping upright and hopping round the room.

by the way - clicking? thats is weird!! grin

Morning everyone - oh yes i am starving too! (she says as she eats a bag of thorntons special toffee at her desk! blush

)

i feel like this baby is lying across me, whereas DS was all feet poking in my ribs. i have a big space between my boobs and my bump which didnt happen last time until right at the end. mw said its because my abdominal muscles are damaged so my tummy just hasnt got the strength to hold the baby up. cant say as i mind not getting kicked in the ribs tho! really could live without the braxton hicks and frequent head buts to the fango tho!

i woke up last night with the most awful cramp in my calf. ouch - it took ages to go and DH shit himself cos he said i made so much noise he thought i was in labour. grin

honey so glad you are feeling better about it all. like you say its his loss.

i was putting my DS to bed last night and he said "night night my beautiful mummy." why on earth do such gorgeous little things have to turn into men!!! grin

hobgoblin glad to hear baby is staying put for now, looks like it aint gonna be long before somebody pops round here tho!
I didn't realise u were in the same boat as me, aren't men bastards eh? lol. Makes me feel a bit better that I'm not the only one who's been let down, sometimes I feel like ''why do other guys stick by their women? why me?'' but really I know that it's nothin to do with me, it's him who's got the problems and it's him who's gonna miss out on so much.

queenfee I'm no expert since I'm a first timer but the physio at our parent craft classes said rocking ur pelvis against a wall or swivelling on a gym/birthing ball can help baby move down. My baby's head is almost engaged so I've been doin these things to try and get him to move down, I'll let u know if it works.

Anyone else starving all the time at the mo? I'm eating far too much at the mo, I'm hungry half an hour after havin a meal, it's rediculous! I'm also really tired, I had a decent sleep last night n then a morning and an afternoon nap today. This aint a pre-labour sign is it? Didn't know whether it's my body's way of storing energy!
Still waiting for the nesting instincts to really kick in tho!

christiana re c sections I have never had one my mother however had an op , 3 c sections and a hysterectomy and has never had any problems. If she was on here she would say to go for it for the simple reason that my brother is midly damaged as a result of a too long labour/stress in labour because he was big and what matters at the end of it all is not how they come but that both the mom and baby are well I suppose. Not wanting to scare anyone but thought it might help put it in perspective x I should go on to say he does lead a normal life and is a qualified accountant so not the end of the world either but it has changed things for him over the years.

Good luck Gillyan and hobgoblin I think by this stage if they want to come they will. I was born at 36 weeks after trying to get out for months weighing a healthy 7lb 13!

Off to sort out a million things for tomorrow, DD has school trip I have consultant appointment and I have to arrange childcare etc for DS oh the joys grin

I am feeling really well again and am glad and everyone is commenting on how well I look smile

Anyone know how to get the baby to engage once it is in the right position? Mine never seem to and I'm sure it helps if they are for a while before IYSWIM

Just had a quick catch up (putting off hoovering the lounge) but GOT to hoover & shower before 6pm!

Wanted to say Gillyan hope you're ok; it gets to the point when you think life has to go on, and to completely rest won't necessarily help anyway. So, guessing your LO will make an appearance before 40 weeks, but just remember EVERY day makes a big difference and, even if she arrives now, she'll be healthy and well, with a little extra help. Que sera sera (sp?) hmm

re actual D day!

hobgoblin Hope your LO holds out for a little longer for you too. I had the mother of all BH yesterday which seemed to last 15 mins solid and, as driving at the time, felt most uncomfortable/painful! Hurt to drive over bumps too and belly tender to touch afterwards. No other symptoms (i.e. discharge) but seems to me that there's a common theme here; that we're all getting very close to having our babies. Yep, at some point our pregnancies ARE going to end!!! grin

Off to hoover..........

I don't hear clicking, but I feel it when this child kind of shoves my ribs and what I'm guessing is a foot pings over them. Ouch!

Activity I did every barmy thing in the book to turn DD - even laid head-down on an ironing board propped on the sofa. Very uncomfortable, even while watching Dr Who... Lets hope your LO stays that way! Mine is still changing position a lot, but seems to remain approximately head down - I can tell because of where the hiccups are resonating!

activity yes I get the clicking! Weird isn't it!

Hi Gillyan - you know your body and if you feel you can stay home and potter and rest then that's great

It must be comforting that you're only 5 mins away, hope you can relax for a bit longer. You too Hobbgoblin, and what a great MW for phoning your ex-DP! Hope you get to go away for your break if you feel you can.

Bonzo I'm with you on feeling bruised, when I saw the consultant this morning she said that mine was the wriggliest baby she'd seen for weeks - he leaps from side to side constantly, it's quite alarming. Plus, I sometimes hear this weird 'clicking' when he moves, anyone else get this..?

The good news is that he's used his enthusiasm for bouncing around to good use and is head down again. Phew. My Power Shower torture must have worked.. I would deffo have got involved in the frozen peas and torch activities had he not - nice idea Mij ! grin

gillyan and hobgoblin keeping everything crossed for both of you. It's such a shite time to be kept awake by anything, just when you need your rest the most!

Because I didn't really notice/accept I was going into labour last time, I'm a bit twitchy that I might do the same thing again, except I know with second ones it's often faster. Have been getting lots of tightenings, BH and period pain cramps too, so keeping my fingers crossed this one isn't in a hurry.

gillyan cross posted with you! Eeek to the contractions. What happens if your cervix is dilating? Are you going to have the baby now or are you going to get more drugs to try adn keep it in for a bit? If you're going to have the baby now anyway - then do as you feel and stay at home til you are ready. Otherwise it may be wise to at least phone the hospital and tell them what's happening. fingers crossed for you.

christiana - some comfort ... although I would never ever chose one the CS wasn't as bad as I' dreaded (after all my reading and NCT classes and longing for a waterbirth). I was very lucky and healed well after the op and was out and about long before a lot of my friends who had a CS the same week. They had infections and other ailments. I did have one trouble - in that I am allergic to micropore tape and the plaster they stick the CS together with has the same glue!!! So I came out in a whole body itching rash for 2 weeks. Hideous! But the CS itself was fine and quite a pleasant experience. DD was born to the sound of Mr Blue Sky by ELO ("hey there pretty face, welcome to the human race..." ). It IS hard the first few days - feeling like you're split open and not being able to stand up and not being able to pick the baby out of the crib until the next day. But overall - after all my fears it really wasn't that bad.
And anyway - after my DD was born and I realised what an enormous head she had - I was really glad that I hadn't had to push her out and then walk like John Wayne for the next year grin

Beccabump - do you know that they can't force you to do anything you don't want medically? They can't "decide" to induce you - you MUST give consent. You can wait until you are 43 weeks if that's what you want. Any medical decisions must be made and agreed with by you and even if the hospital staff completely disagree with you - it is still your right to make those decisions. Even if it will harm the baby - mad I know - but they only have rights on what happens to the baby once it is born - until then it is part of you and you have control. So the key thing to ask, if medical staff want to do something and you don't ... ask ...
What is the risk if I don't do this?
What is the risk if I wait x days or hours or whatever?
How does the risk of doing this compare with the risk of doing nothing?
Sometimes there is no real medical reason to do things at a certain time - they just want to hurry you along, or it is the way things are always done. So for your sanity - ask them why they want to do anything and then make the decision yourself.

My bump feels really hard and little Dumpling is wriggling happily all morning. I think it has bruised me with a knee - feeling very tender in one spot. I spent the weekend in London walking about and meeting people and sightseeing - Waaaaay too much - am shattered and bump-stretched now... Just want to lie down and sleep.

Oh and I noticed a weird thing with my bump yesterday .... as I walk (and look down) the bump sways from side to side!!! It's mad!

Good Luck to Gillyan and hobgoblin with your scares ... fingers crossed they stay in for a while longer!

Hiya

I'm feeling very frustrated!!!! Been up since 5am and having contractions since 6am. They have been coming every 4/5 mins. Started having them last night too and it started the same again with the back ache and period pains and then they were coming every 5 mins but drifted off to 8mins. Fell asleep on the sofa so went up to bed. Had a terrible nights sleep cos of my hips.

I am supposed to phone the hospital at the slightest twinge but I just cannot bare having to go in again. From 6am - 9am they were every 4/5 mins so I tried lying down as this can make them go off, they reduced in frequency but got stronger so at 10.30 I got up. Decided to go and have a shower and wash my hair etc, could still feel them when I was moving about but you just don't concentrate on them as much. They are not painful apart from the odd little twinge, more like period pain/ache.

I am now thinking I'll dry my hair and get dressed and just see how things go, if they get and stronger or come closely together I'll go to hospital to see if I am actually dilating. Do you think I'm being silly not going now?

Having had a baby before I know this is nothing really and it's just my body threatening to go into early labour. I just can't imagine that my cervix is anything but closed as I'm not having any pain. I live 5 mins away from the hospital anyway and I am seeing the consultant tomoorow at 9am for my pre-op assesment for the c/s.

I am just so tired and getting fed up of all these contractions, although they are not painful they are uncomfortable and take my breath away, I'm exhausted.

hobgoblin hope you are okay and glad you are home

Morning everyone

QueenFee and anyone else expecting their 3rd - I heard the opposite; that it was going from 1 to 2 that's the biggest shock, after that it's just another head to count hmm

. Here's hoping!

And yes - it's good to know we have similar info on bfing smile

positioning I've no idea if it made any difference last time, but DP and I spent a couple of highly amusing evenings with a bag of frozen peas and a torch trying to get DD to turn (and she did at some point - no idea if on own accord or not). Allegedly, babe will move towards light and away from cold, so get on all fours, put torch down by pubic bone and peas on top of bump!

MissP a deliberate ankle sprain would have been far too clever a move for the state of my brain right now! I managed to find lots of sitting-down jobs to do, and then spent the night in the spare room so I could get more comfy. Can even walk up stairs this morning so loads better. Situation was so dire last night cos I walked around town for a couple of hours on a sprained ankle, so as soon as I put it up for half an hour it seized up completely. It's the ankle I damaged badly a couple of times when I was a teenage dancer, and is now so loose it just springs back most of the time, so didn't think anything of it. Pain? What pain..?

Hi All

I'm joining the Gillyan camp having just spent the night in hospital.

Had my routine midwife appointment yesterday and had v. high ketones in urine plus small amount of blood so went in again to the day assessment unit. They did a trace and I was having Braxton Hicks every ten minutes with some serious contractions every half hour. Urine sample no. 2 was fine but the contractions not so good so they had me stay the night and be monitored again this morning. Still getting tightenings but cervix is closed so they let me go. Thank goodness!

I'm supposed to be having a weekend away this weekend with exdp but he has gone into panic mode and doesn't want to risk going so I am feeling glum. The midwife thinks I should go because it will be a nice rest. She phoned him and told him to chill out, so he is thinking about it. hmm

Hunny, my advice would be to make the birth certificate thing a personal choice rather than a legal one. Effectively he has PR whatever as he is the father, the new law means this is automatic regardless of your relationship status.

As for the drinking, it seems he is alcohol dependent. Alcoholism is more complex than not being able to get through the day or morning or whatever without a drink. That is the popularised view of alcohol dependency but it has many guises. My exdp has issues with using alcohol as a solution to life stress. He is a professional businessman and is wealthy and successful. However, he has let me and this baby dowm hugely and I feel the same irrational sense of shame about that as you mention. It is very hard to not allow this to grind you down at times, I find.

Anyway, stay positive, you sound very confident and in control so I am sure all will be well for you however things turn out.

Best wishes everyone else too!

Morning all
Mij and Queenfee - thanks for the advice. I have myself armed with remedies in case I have yet another ropey start and I have mentioned checking for tongue tie in bold in my birth plan. Here's hoping this 3rd bf experience is a bit better than my last 2.

Mij is spraining your ankle your cheeky way of literally getting time to put your feet up?! grin

Queenfee we can console each other when our 3rd DC arrives. I still think it won't be much of a difference. I am already swimming in nappies, tantrums and mess.

Christiana do what you feel is best for you. I know plenty of women who have had CS (planned and unplanned) and the recovery has been ok for most. From what I gather, the key is getting help at home for the first few weeks after the procedure especially if you have another DC. Hope you get the consultant on your side.

Jetli your MIL sounds funny. I love the way you are not allowed to have the baby during certain events. It sounds a bit like my MIL, who albeit is lovely (most of the time), was annoyed at me the last time I went into labour as she was waiting for the gas man and we needed her to take DS. I guess you better not get the birth of her grandchild in the way of things. smile

Apple sorry to hear about your pains.

Hi the anyone I have missed.

sorry at everyone's frustrations! What a MIL JetLi!
How are you feeling Gillyan?

Had growth scan yesterday. Baby is BIG. Am very surprised as my DD was only 6.5 pounds at 39 weeks. And this one the head measurement puts him/ her in the 95th centile. Having heard that I refused the ECV and am seeing a consultant tomorrow to book a c section, hopefully for next week. Getting lots of supportive comments from my friends, apart from the ones who are first time pregnant and probably going to NCT classes at the moment, and telling me I MUST NOT HAVE A CSECTION and it will be AGONY afterwards and I won't be able to do ANYTHING. Of course I have no idea how it will be but from what I've read on here it isn't that bad... Reassurance please?

Anyway, there is still a chance the baby will turn just don't know how I'll feel about pushing a BIG HEAD out of my fanjo!

Oh and my MIL rang tonight and said "Have you still not had that baby yet??????" hmm

Crazy bint - I've still another 5 weeks at least and she knows full well what my due date is as she expressly told me not to have the baby that day as it's DP's barmy Aunty's birthday and apparently that would be just unforgiveable of me. I really must get caller ID on this bloody home phone before July, so I can avoid all further nuisance calls.
A swig of Gaviscon anyone?? I must calm down. I must calm down. I must calm down.....

Hi becca - that consultant sounds like a bloody disgrace and wants shooting with shit angry

I've said it before but they're all bloody OBSESSED with this diabetes thing and the 38 week induction lark at the moment. And its so true about the scans being inaccurate. With this attitude from the consultant, what exactly was the point of you "managing" the diabetes so well and working really hard at it, to then be basically told that there's no point in doing so and chances are you'll deliver a large baby anyway? Surely it's the same as saying you might as well have said stuff it to the diet and lived on chips, full-fat coke and strawberry mivvi's for the last 3 months and taken your chances. If you'd have had undiagnosed GD (and I'd have thought this was perfectly possible, even with the perpetual tiddle tests) then you'd be at greater risk of the shoulder dystocia, BUT you would have had no problems having/booking your homebirth - it makes no sense the other way around does it FFS?
Diet-wise at least, yourself and Phoenix have possibly had the healthiest pregnancies out of this whole thread, because of the GD and yet you're both being penalised. It really makes no sense to me
angry

missp I can only echo what Mij has said - exactly what I was thinking. Great to know we are singing off the same hymn sheet so to speak! I would add to get the babies mouth checked ASAP as it tends to be genetic.

Becca I know exactly how you feel. The first consultant I saw was all for ealry induction then this last one just fobbed me off. I have now insisted thanks to my lovely midwife I see the consultant herself and not one of her registrars. Fingers crossed for you (and me!)
Had a bad day today. I fell asleep no less than 3 times on the sofa! Heard DD whispering to DS to stay quiet because mummy was sleeping bless smile

However the rest of the day was full of tears and tantrums and lots of wet clothes so hard work. I did wonder by 8pm tonight how the heck I am going to cope with 3 shock

especially afer all the 3rd time mums in the queue at toddlers were telling me no 3 is the last straw that breaks the camels back shock

oh well too late to change my mind now!
On a more amusing note my DH is suddenly very good at having to work late / having a headache / not coming up to bed wink

interesting when it's on the other foot!

Oh Becca what a stressful situation! Here's hoping u get to see the other consultant next time.

mij sorry about ur ankle

hope ur not in too much pain. what are the chances I hurt my right ankle as well today!? And I don't even know how I managed to do it?! Came back from lunch with a painful ankle.

Gillyan how u doing today?

Phoenix no ur not the only one! DP is driving me crazy, and feel as if I'm the only adult in this relationship

Dunno if it's just the fact that I'll be completely dependent on him financially for the next couple of months, and sometimes or most of the time I'm concerned that we won't cope. He tends to have a bit of the ostrich head in the sand mentality and I just feel stressed by it all arghhh!

Sorry for the me post. Hugs to everyone else xx

becca god you sound very annoyed - with every reason!

How far away from the hospital do you live? If u want a HB badly enough and u are happy then go for it. But I would only say that if you could transfer to hospital easy enough if things went wrong. Mind u I have no experience of shoulder getting stuck, if it happened again would it be safe to transfer to hospital? You should make another appoint with the consultant you like and demans some answers.

And no us preganant women should not go through so much stress getting all sorts of conflicting evidence off loads of different health care professionals.

Hope you're okay.

mij hope your ankle heals

I know this is pathetically trivial in comparison with others' troubles, but I've sprained my bloody ankle so dramatically I'm confined to the sofa and considering sending DP out to a chemist to see if they sell walking sticks so I can get to the sodding loo without needing more paracetemol. What marvelous timing grrr.

becca that sounds very upsetting, sorry to hear that. Some consultants still seem to have that old fashioned god-complex that all male doctors used to come with! And it's your choice, at the end of the day (not saying that you wouldn't take sound medical advice, but still...). Fingers crossed for getting the 'good' one next time.

The only consultant I've had to deal with in either pg didn't even look me in the eye, gave deep sighs all the way through the (3 minute) consultation and had one foot up on the desk throughout. And having been a pretend patient for registrars' exams (used to be an actor - I was resting wink

), I can confirm that lack of people skills is still pretty prevalent among even the most intelligent medics, although I have several mates who are in the profession, who all seem wonderful. Luck (or lack of it) of the draw who you get. Shite, isn't it.

MissP length of first, and any, feed is massively variable between babies. I suspect your DDs tongue tie was at the root of your sore nips problem as 45 mins isn't outside the normal range IME, although long/frequent exposure plus a less than ideal latch (as with TT) would certainly make you more vulnerable. It might help to build your confidence that it will be OK this time, if you can do a bit of revision on what a good latch 'should' feel/look like (or rather what it shouldn't feel like!), and make sure you have that tube of Lansinoh close at hand to fend off any soreness from the very beginning. And have BFC phone numbers in your labour stuff to get immediate help if you feel the latch isn't quite right. My DD used to feed for 45 mins each side until she was way over 6 months - that was normal for her. I know other babes who've only ever fed for 10 minutes either side. BTW, comfort sucking is 'normal' too smile

and of course nipple stimulation helps get your supply established, so longer feeds can be good news too grin

Hi ladies

Totally grrr at the moment after my midwife/scan/diabetes/consultant meeting today angry

.

Midwife - great, bp and wee fine,

Scan - great, all within normal size and placenta high and at the back,

Diabetes - great, all good levels and managing well,

Consultant - aaaargh!!! Didn't even see him, he sent his female colleague instead. Was a different guy to last time and he's basically written in my notes that he doesn't agree with a homebirth because of the possibility of a bigger baby leading to shoulder dystocia (baby getting stuck). He said that although the growth scans are fine they can be inaccurate so I'd be better off in hospital. I have to go back for another growth scan when I am 37+4 (what the hell is the point if he doesn't seem to believe in it anyway shock

???) and he will make a decision then as to whether or not to induce or to go naturally!

I am absolutely fuming as the consultant I saw last time told me that if everything was good this time around there was no reason not to have a homebirth! How can 2 people have such different ideas??

I feel totally let down as I have been trying so hard to get this homebirth, managing the diabetes, managing the SPD, and I still don't know where I'll be having this baby!

If they do decide to induce I may only have 3 days notice of going in as they usually do it at 38 weeks!!!

I am sure pregnant women are not supposed to be going through this sort of stress!!!

I spoke to my mw this afternoon and she has calmed me a bit, she's advised me to find out tomorrow who the consultant is at the next appointment and if it's the guy I saw today to request a different person and preferably the guy I saw last time. The problem is because he's written that he is against homebirth in my notes the mw's hands are tied until someone re-writes that I'm ok to go. I could go into labour at 37 weeks and still have to go to hospital because I haven't seen anyone who can overrule this guy!! If it had been the consultant I'd seen a few weeks ago I'd have taken it better as I'd have know he is pro-homebirth but looking out for my and baby's health. I just feel that this consultant is one of the 'let's make all ladies give birth in stirrups' brigade

I really feel like demanding an elective c-section just so I feel like I have some bit of my pregnancy in my control again!!

Sorry for the rant but I am so fed up now. I was crying coming out of the appointment in frustration.

Hello ladies, just got back from my first NCT class (leaving it a little late, I know..) I was a bit underwhelmed actually, I think I've learned more from Mumsnet! They were a nice bunch of girls though, hopefully we'll stay in touch.

Christiana sorry to hear of your breech worries, mine is keeping me guessing too so I've got an appt with a consultant tomorrow. One of the people at my ante-natal class echoed what Bonzo said - aiming a power shower head to where you think the baby's head is so it will move away from it.. Sorry, I know you're probably trying everything already.

JetLi glad you got the reassurance at the assessment clinic. I spend my time between wishing the baby would stop kicking me in the ribs and then panicking when I haven't felt anything for a bit.

Hunny you're not letting your baby down because of the actions of your ex, I'm sorry that he's giving you such strife, angry

All your baby needs is to be loved and wanted by you, which is clearly true, and if your ex snaps out of it and steps up to the mark then that's a bonus.

Hope my physio appt comes in soon, my SPD is getting quite bad and is making me really quite emotional.

I'm getting worried that it will affect how I can move around in labour, I had my heart set on being as active as possible but I feel so 'trapped' in my achey bones.. Hopefully a bit of gas and air should help me limber up.

Hi all
Just got back from a panic trip to the Feto-maternal Assessment Unit. Movements had deteriorated sharply from Saturday evening onwards. They had gone from B-I-G roll-y sweep-y movements - unmistakeable and visible from the outside - to eventually become more like just the little wee flutterings I had much earlier on. And all my tricks stopped working like icy cold water and ice cream. But all's fine - been on a monitor for a bit and they also did an ultrasound so I finally got to see baby (I never saw a thing at my 20 week scan). All measurements, movements, amnioitic fluid, cord blood flow etc. look spot-on and weight is estimated about 6lb (I know they're inaccurate but that didn't make me wince too much!!). Baby is head down ready to go - little rascal was blowing kisses at us. So I arrived there somewhat stressed with BP of 140/92 and came away somewhat less stressed with BP 110/72. wink

They were really very nice about it all as I was terrified of being thought of as a nuisance. I think my BP had them a bit scared too, since I've averaged 100/60-ish in the rest of pregnancy.

Hi christiana - my pal had acupuncture as well as moxibustion to try and turn her little girl. They did the acupuncture where they insert the needles and then use a machine to apply electricity to them to make it even more powerful - not sure what the proper name for it is though, and I remember she said it wasn't pleasant. Sadly it didn't work for her but we think she needed more sessions, and it was over Christmas/New Year so impossible to get enough appointments in with all the holidays. She binned the ECV idea - first (and last) baby after 6 goes at IVF and two miscarriages - she just wanted her out so opted for the CS. She was a very good advert for CS - no complications or anything and she was up and about and back to normal very quickly. The only thing that bothered her was the longer stay in hosp. but even that wasn't so bad as the CS ladies get private rooms/bathrooms locally. I have asked her recently if she knows why her DD was breech - I wasn't sure if when they'd gone in for the section, they'd found the cord around her neck or something, but she said there was no particular reason that they told her about.

{{{{hugs}}}} for you hunny - the limit for registering the birth is 42 days. Have you got lots of back-up plans in case he lets you down for the birth or afterwards? If you like, give me his name and address and I'll go round and give him a very large slap angry

Hi Gillyan - hope your feet are well and truly up and you're resting lots.

Going to pack my bag tonight I think. Scared myself silly today, so I really ought to grow up and get my shit act together now and behave like there actually is a baby coming, instead of swanning about like I'll be preggers forever.

Hope the scan goes well becca and I hope you and hubby are having much bedroom fun Queenfee wink

- DP recoils in horror when I mention the "S" word in our house. Will have to model the new Hotmilk lingerie at the weekend and see if I can't entice him into ripping it off me!! grin

Christiana try putting a cold shower onto the top of your tummy. It helped turn my DD as she didn't like the cold feeling and moved away from it.

Prams - tricky business isn't it. People seem to get very precious. We visited my DH's friends whe I was preg last time. The woman gushed that they had a lovely pram system and how great it was and how much we'd like it - it was perfect for us - got the leaflet out to show us and said how much she liked it and how wonderful it was. Said she'd kept it safely tucked away as she couldn't bear just anyone to have it .... I was thinking well it looks okay but it's bigger than I'd want ... but you know ... if they're offering it and I don't have one ... anyway she went on about it and then said " yes we didn't want just anyone to have it - we wanted to sell it to someone we liked" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [psycho emoticon]
ermmmmmmmmmmm - we politely declined.

on names - I'm married but kept my own name so DD has my surname as a middle name. I wanted her to have my name somewhere but not double-barrelled. My sister wasn't married and gave her childern the father's surnme - but then they split up very acromoniously. She had to put up with the children having his name and being called Mrs twat Ex at School etc. The children finally asked if they could change their names to hers!

Christiana, I had ecv with dd1 7yrs ago, at Chelsea & Westminster. She didn't turn and I ended up with a c/s but I am glad I tried. For me it was uncomfortable but not painful.
Sorry, 10pm here so will write more tomorrow, time for bed

Hello to all

i hated the hot weather! glad its cooled down

Hospital bag is packed, only have to put a few snacks in.

Got another scan and consult app next wk, so fingers are crossed he is in the correct position for birth. other wise its a c-section which i really dont wont again.

hubby woke me up over the weekend and pushed me over saying he counldnt sleep because he was being kicked in the bk. cheeky

Thanks mickylou, I'm supposed to be seeing him later so I might try and talk to him about it all.
I think I'm gonna put off registering the birth for a while so I can see how he is and whether he shows any signs of change. Who knows this baby might be the making of it (well I can live in hope!).
I just feel such a loser that I'm havin a baby with someone like this and what makes it worse is that it was planned, I feel like all this is my fault and like I've let my baby down sad

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Just seen the mw and all is good, bp is good and baby's head is making it's way down, not quite engaged but it's getting there smile

Christiana sorry to hear that the baby is breech. Hopefully you will get it sorted one way or another. At least you know now, before going into labour. I have 2 friends who went into labour naturally and it was not until they went in to give birth that they found out their babies were breech. Last min CS done for both of them. Let us know what you decided. Oh and if you find another way of having a baby that does not incl natural birth or CS let me know. The less painful it is the better....here's wishing. grin

Gillyan I really thought you would have been posting a birth announcement. This baby has really kept you on your toes! Hope you are well.

Hunny sorry to hear about your bf troubles. I really don't know what to say.

Breastfeeding q for Queenfee / Mij
How long should a baby bf for straight from birth? I only ask as DS didn't bf straight from birth due to complications and DD did BUT she did for over 45min (is that normal or was there some comfort sucking going on?). DD had a undetected tongue tie and by feeding for so long in addition to her tt my nipples were ravaged from the start. I really want my 3rd bf experience to get off to the right start. Any advice welcome.

Hope everyone is ok on this grim day.

Hiya Hunny sorry i didnt answer you yesterday.

if you dont put him on the birth certificate and he applies to the court for a PR order he wouldnt need to prove he was the biological dad. he would only have to do this if you tell the court there is some doubt about paternity. since there isnt that would mean you would be fibbing to the court. shock

if there was some doubt about paternity and you raised it the court can order you to submit to a DNA test.

if you do decide to put him on the certificate he will get PR so you will need to think seriously about applying for a Residence Order.

re the drinking - i have personal experience of dealing with an alcoholic (who is thank god now recovered and in AA). your ex hasnt sunk to the depths that my loved one did but it certainly sounds as though he has the beginnings of a problem. this person was always a bottle of wine a night type person but nobody realised there was anything wrong with that until it had got completely out of control.

about your ex's friend - i may be wrong but alot of alcoholics dont die from liver related illness but from accidents caused by being drunk like falling down stairs or from catching pneumonia and not having the strength to fight it.

to be honest having seen what alcohol can do i am absolutely terrified of the stuff!!! i know what its like to want to just shake someone and make them stop what they are doing but nobody can stop your ex drinking except himself. its only then that he might find he actually cant stop and will have to get some help.

i know it sounds callous but just make sure you put yourself and your little one first and dont let his problems spoil even one second of being a mum!! [lots of hugs]

queenfee thank you for telling me that. I am in this sily situation where I don't want a c section, I don't want ECV and I had such a horrid birth last time that I don't want natural birth! Is there another way?!

christiana My friend had this at 36 weeks with her 4th. She said the Dr had to stop half way through and get her breath as apparently it is hard work. She did say however it didn't hurt her, the baby moved and was born naturally a couple of weeks later.

I have been given an appointment for thursday as the only other appointment with the consultant was July so a bit late then!
Kepp your fingers crossed for me ladies grin

Kids know how to stress you out don't they and these little nippers arn't even born yet! grin

Hope all the babies who need to move do so for you and those who need to stay right where they are do so too!

TMI but my DH is now probably the happiest man in the world as I have insited we have sex as often as poss (no I can't be bothered but if it helps with induction/birth I will do anything blush

) I have also started taking evening primrose oil amongst other things. Now I really sound desperate!

thank you

I just really want to have a decision now so I can actually plan - although judging from the last few days feelings it may be sooner than later, had period type aches, lots of bh's, slightly upset tummy...general feeling of foreboding!!

good luck to you becca

ah so you have a stubborn one in there christiana!! hope all goes well tomorrow - I've got my growth scan and hopefully a decision re. homebirth vs section!

gas and air!? bl**dy hell! thanks for your feedback

christiana Hope baby shifts for you! My friend had the turning thing done, she needed gas and air and baby didn't move. She chose a section in the end and all was well. Good look!

becca i've been doing that every day for about 7 weeks now... AND moxibustion... AND swimming and diving down into the swimming pool... this baby's a little maggie thatcher (the lady's not for turning!)

christiana have you tried kneeling with your head resting below your bump so your bum is in the air? you sort of let your bump hang down - we are taught it at pregnancy yoga as a good position for turning baby....also, avoid sitting leaning back, try straddling a narrow (dining) chair leaning slightly forwards

Hi, baby is confirmed breech. Going back tomorrow for ANOTHER scan to see if ECV is a possibility. Has anyone here had it? (manual turning of baby). I am not hugely keen on it buthappy to listen to anyone's advice.

hunny sorry you have so much to deal with with your ex! Sending lots of brightness and strength.

mickylou re the drink - he doesnt drink every single day, but most. If he hasn't got any money during the week he'll often just stay in and not touch any drink but if he has money he'll usually go and get some cider and sit in and drink or go to a mate's house and drink with them. It scares me sometimes cos it's like he just CAN'T stop, like he's a man possesed! There's been times when we've gone to bed and he's got up and gone downstairs to finish the booze cos he can't sleep knowing that there's drink to be drank.
And as far as the word 'alcoholic' is concerned, I think he thinks that by saying he's an alcoholic it diminshes some of his responsibility to knock it on the head. Kinda like 'well I'm an alcoholic so it's not my fault I'm like this'.
It makes it even more frustrating that one of his friends died only 6 months ago and it was partly due to him drinking way too much, admittedly it wasn't directly linked but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have died if he didn't drink so much (IYKWIM?). But he doesn't see the link between the drink and his death.

Thanks mickey for clarification.

Gillyan v envy

about your night's sleep. Although can hardly begrudge you it considering what you've been through recently wink

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bugger bugger bugger getting sod-all work done here (and not just mumsnet's fault - just can't get my brain into gear).

mickylou thanks for the advice, very useful. Just one question tho, if I didn't put him on the birth cirtificate and he decided to apply for PR, wouldn't he have to prove that he is the father and wouldn't I be able to refuse a DNA test?

thats alot of SATC gillyan - you will be calling baby Carrie, Charlotte, Miranda or Samantha!! grin

great that you got a good nights sleep - hope its the same tonight.

Thanks again for your lovely messages, I will definately keep you all posted.

queenfee hope you are okay?

honey I didn't put 'his' name on the birth cert, as you know I had DD on my own. It scares me to think they can apply for PR anyway though, good job mickey is here with all the advice.

I slept from 11.30 - 8.30!!!!!!!!! I woke up about 10 times for a wee and to change sides but went straight back to sleep. It would be amazing but my hips are paying for it today. I must of been totally shattered to sleep through the pain in them!

I've not even got dressed yet, I've watched about 10 episodes of SATC and thought to myself I should really go and have a shower and get dressed now.

Hiya Mij - when you are married the dad automatically gets PR as soon as baby is born.

if you arent married its the act of him turning up to the register office and going on the certificate that confers PR. eg - if honey decides to put her ex on the bc he will have to go with her to the register office. the registrar here wont put an unmarried dads name on the birth certificate without him being present and therefore consenting. after all, you could tell them anybody is the dad if he didnt have to be there! grin

if dad isnt on the birth certificate he can get PR either by consent (mum signing a PR agreement) or by applying to the court.

hope thats a bit clearer. smile

Gillyan - Glad your little girl is staying where she is for now. Make sure you don't move a muscle and get dp to do everything for you

Hunny - It has to be your choice but how he has behaved through your pg i would be reluctant to put his name on the birth certificate. You know better than anyone {{hugs}} Love Joseph Adam

Mickeylou - Love Poppy Grace too. Hope your 3wks at work go quickly

Hope all the babies that need to move do move.

Is anyone finding their dh/dp more and more irritating by the second or is it just me?

Also is anyone else finding their hairs growing back at warp speed. My legs, arm pits etc. seem to need doing every other day (if i could be bothered to that is) This happened in my last pg too hmm

Gillyan Gosh, poor you!! All that contracting and your cervix still closed; glad that baby is hanging on as sure every day will make a big difference. Glad also you have your birth plan sorted. I knew of someone (a few yrs ago) who had too much amniotic fluid, looked full term at 26 weeks and they desperately filled her with drugs to delay the birth and steroids to develop the baby's lungs. Her fluid didn't increase and she eventually went to full term! So, it's amazing how things can turn out ok in the end. And your baby is 35 weeks which is a little early but not massively (and heading towards 36 weeks) My first DS was born at 37 weeks, 7.5lbs and was popped into special care just for a couple of days as struggled to maintain his body temp & couldn't suck so was tube fed. Think no suck reflex fairly standard for slightly early babies but no great problem and doesn't last long. You're due the day after me I think and it's getting SO close now smile

Keep us posted?

Soozze I was going to wear jogging bottoms and a loose top as no doubt will have a large jelly belly even though will feel intoxicatingly slim in comparison grin

And to be able to put my own socks/own shoes on.........ah, bliss!!

mickyLou I know it wasn't me who brought it up, but can I just pick your brains then, about why my DP has to be physically present for the registration of birth if he'd get PR anyway? I was under the impression he wouldn't get full PR if he wasn't there in person..?

Hi honey - i practice family law.

if you name your ex on the birth certificate you will automatically give him parental responsibility, which gives him the right to be consulted on all the big decisions like religion, education, medical treatment etc. it will also mean that if he decides to turn up at nursery in the middle of the day and take your little one the nursery will not be able to stop him. sad

if however you dont put him on the certificate he can always apply to the court for a Parental Responsibility Order (which he is likely to get) and he can ask for a declaration of parentage so he can get the birth re registered with his name on the certificate.

my advice would be to register him as the dad - thereby giving him PR. he will get it anyway so why put yourself through unecessary stress of the court application.

i would personally only put your surname and if Joseph wants to change it later in life you can do it for him before he is 18 or he can do it himself after. i have seen lots of mothers who have given their children double barrell or the dads surnames only to regret it when they disappear out of the child's life. the child is then stuck with a surname that means nothing to them as you wont be able to change it without your ex's consent.

re the booze - it certainly sounds like he has a problem - he may not need to start drinking as soon as he gets up every morning but if he cant stop himself drinking at some point every day he needs to get some help. i am suprised he is using the term alcoholic tho. in my experience alcoholics are very reluctant to admit thats what they are until they have hit rock bottom and have no other choice.

if he keeps drinking i would refuse unsupervised contact and insist on you or soemone you trust being there. i definately wouldnt allow overnight stays until he can show he can stay sober whilst the baby is with him.

talk to your solicitor about getting a Residence order, this will prevent him removing the baby from your care/nursery without your consent.

sorry for the sermon!!!! grin

Loving poppy grace and joseph adam x Must be a nightmare with surnames - my maiden namewas Willetts and wouldn't have been good hyphenated with anything! I would however get your name in there somewhere as a friend of mines kids has her dps surname and she wishes she had her surname in there too now.

I had a really good appointment with my midwife this am. Ended up crying my eyes out re my consultants approach and the midwife was really sympathetic and has arranged for me to see their superior. Bless her. She knows me quite well and said I am usually quite laid back so for me to do that I must be worried. I didn't realise it was worrying me that much till I spoke to her about it so fingers crossed for induction at 39 weeks as originally planned.

Thanks mij. My mum knows a solicitor who deals with family law so she's gonna speak to them for advice. I just dont know if I could deal with the grief I'd get off him if I don't put him on the birth cirtificate, he'd go MAD!

hunny it might be worth posting on the legal bit of the forums. My DP had to come with me to register DD in order to have his name on the birth certificate, as we're not married, and we both wanted him to have full parental rights in the event I step under the proverbial bus. But as you're not with your DS's Dad, you may wish to think about other legal guardians (and make a will!) if you don't trust your ex. I think you can put his name on the birth certificate without conferring full parental rights, but that's where you need proper legal advice. smile

mij i don't like hyphonated names either, if me n my ex were still together I'd happily let baby have his surname but since it's me who's bringing him up it doesn't seem quite right. But I think if I gave baby my surname he'd grow up hating it cos I know that boys often worship their Dads.

I have even been debating over whether to put my ex on the birth cirtificate, I know this makes me sound like a real bitch but i have my reasons. I spoke to him on Saturday and he was drunk (as per usual) and I said that he needs to start stayin sober in case I go in to labour, he said that he can't cos he's an alcoholic! Yes he has a drink problem but he isn't actually an alcoholic, he can function without it, he doesn't drink in the morning so he doesnt actually physically need it. But if its in front of him he has to drink it and once he starts he can't stop. He's been sayin all thru the pregnancy that he's just gettin it out of his system whilst he can and he'd stop when baby is nearly here. But now he says he can't and wont. I'm now really worried that he will carry on once baby is here n if that is the case I don't want to put my baby at risk or for my son to grow up thinking that it's an acceptable way to be. If he was still drinkin I'd like to be able to stop him seein our son but if his name is on the birth cirtificate it's virtually impossible cos he'd obviously have legal rights to see him. I don't know what to do sad

Gillyan thank you for keeping us all on the edge of our seats! Hope all stays well and baby inside for just a bit longer.

I am feeling like this one won't be hanging around either, and DD was 6 days early. I know there's no evidence for trends in having early vs. late (and I've scoured the internet for data on that) despite the anecdotal evidence but I just have this gut feeling it's not going to go the distance <cut to 5 weeks time: Mij is climbing the walls and still pg...>

hunny surnames are a bugger. I wasn't wild about hyphonating but we were both adamant that DD should have the other one's surname, and as DP's surname name is also a girls name mine had to go first with a hyphon to avoid confusion. My feeling was that I wanted both names to avoid misunderstandings at school/passport control/whatever. Although I do get fed up with being called Mrs Myname-Hisname, cos I'm neither a Mrs nor hyphonated myself. No easy way around it.

DDs birthday bash this weekend. 'Twas supposed to be a small, chilled out affair but somehow the guest list is up to 24 (only 10 kids though - DD likes her grown-up friends hmm

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Good that you're home Gillyan, hopefully baby won't arrive too early

I'm 35wks tomorrow, hard to believe that it could happen pretty much anytime now. It was a long weekend here and we got loads done at home, finally the cot is up, the mattresses ordered, found the cosey toes and pouch after much searching in the garage. & we have another play area in the garage now for the dd's so they don't have to be in the lounge the whole time, or their room. Thought that would be useful when dc3 arrives

Have a consultant appt tomorrow morning, hopefully will tell me baby is head down and behaving

God I'm lovin bein on maternity leave, however I'm finding it really hard to get motivated to do stuff cos I'm thinking ''oh well I can do that anytime'' so I've done absolutely no housework all weekend blush

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Today I'm gonna have a good clean up, do some washing and go to the nursery shop to pay some money off the account. And my ex has said he's gonna come round tomos so we can pick the cot up and build it grin

. I wont hold my breath tho, he's not the most reliable of people lol.

mickylou yeah I've been racking my brain about the pram lady and come to the following conclusion...her parents are millionaires and her n her husband now have a nice house etc (but not really rich) but I think she thinks she's a cut above everybody else and likes to think she's got this perfect life etc and prob expected me to want everything she has and so was gutted when this young single mum turned down something she was offering cos it shattered her illusions. Also there's prob an element of jealousy cos she wants lots of babies but her husband only wants one. I've decided I'm just gonna forget about it cos at the end of the day it's his family and since we're not together anymore it's not really my problem.

Poppy Grace is lovely btw, I think I've decided on Joseph Adam now. Now I've just gotta decide on the surname, Hilton (mine), Whittaker (his), Hilton-Whittaker or Whittaker-Hilton?

Right I'm gonna give myself a kick up the backside and get some bloody housework done now!

Its so nice reading all the threads- I'm 35 weeks today - v. uncomfortable with heart burn / morning sickness / back ache- but hopefully not long to go

However she is my first so i'll probably go over knowing my luck!

Queenfee we camped near Bala beside the lake (great for fires on the beach on rainy days)we take canoes and wet suits (not that mine fits) so as we are in the water anyway the rain makes no odds. The lake is deep and v cold but the kids don't seem to notice/mind. I think its called lakeside but not certain. Only other facilities are a small loo/shower block.

Hi everyone - wow Gillian what a lot of excitement youre having. seems like your little girl is intent on being quite a handful!! take care. x

hunny - dont worry about the lady and the pram. cant personally understand why she would be upset.if she wants rid of the pram surely she can donate it to a charity shop? i think part of the fun on being pregnant is picking your new pram for your new baby!! i didnt need one as DS' is still in good nick but i just couldnt resist blush

. i have a mamas and papas jewel this time which is somehow still in the box. last time i made DH put it up weeks early so i could keep admiring it. grin

i havent packed my bag yet but have two carrier bags in the bedroom which are rapidly filling up - one for me and one for baby. just need to transfer them into the big bag.

DS will still be in nursery on the day i have section. i dont think i am going to tell him as i dont want him worrying. he comes out at lunch time so hopefully baby will be out by then and DH can break the news and bring him to see me. those of you with older dcs - how did your firstborns react when baby actually arrived?

i am feeling much better now, but lots of braxton Hicks and low shooting pains. 3 more weeks at work - hope it goes quickly!!

we are still debating over names - DH seems set on Poppy Grace

Gillyan glad ur home and baby is behaving itself.

I've had a weird coupla days. Started with period like cramps on sat eve, then yesterday a funny tummy with constant trips to the loo. Last nite I had back pain all in the left side and couldn't sleep till 4 this morning. Now I just have a general feeling of not feeling great. Have doctors app in half an hour.
Hope everyone is having a better time than me!

Does anyone know if you get a locker in hospital for your valuables?
Also can you take a cool box in?

Gillyan and Queen Fee - hope the little ones do as they are told and stay in for a little longer.

We are all getting to pretty decent milestones; I was born at 36 weeks and weighed 6lbs 12.

I have to go for a growth scan today as my growth has tapered a bit. I will be 35 weeks on Wednesday.

This is also my last week in work - yippee! Although now I have to think about the fact I am having a baby, not just finishing work for a year shock

Gillyan best of luck! Thinking of you.

Got my scan at 11am to find out whether this baby really is breech... If so then will discuss options I guess.

I woke up at 5am and have been up since then fiddling about round the house. And have a funny tummy - keep running to loo - and massive nesting instinct and my boobs have been leaking! I think things are REALLY dawning on me that I'm soon to have a little baby...

Though saying that the baby will probably turn and I'll be moaning on here in 4 weeks time that the baby is late!

Gillyan glad the baby is waiting a while and that you’ve sorted out the type of birth you want. I hope you manage to rest now until the delivery day!

hunny I’ve been shopping today too and oohing at all the tiny babies 

Has everyone got a coming home/first outfit? I was looking for one today but just couldn’t decide what to buy. I want something lovely but also very comfy.

I’m missing last week’s sun too, it’s been a rainy weekend here and looks set to rain all week 

It does suddenly feel like it’s all going to happen soon but I’m not ready!!! Part of me thinks it’ll happen early and part of me hopes for later so I have longer to get everything ready. This is the worst bit I think, it could be a whole 5-6 week period of thinking ‘any minute now’. It must be nice to have an actual date booked 

gillyan glad its hanging in there. I know the feeling when I was being monitored I was contracting on wed night and part of me was relieved the baby was coming and another was scared as hell. I burst into tears when DH came home on thur eve as I had had these crampy feelings all day and was feeling a bit what if the baby does come early and it's all my fault if it's poorly because it would be prem. Got over that now and have to say as I am nearly 36 weeks feeling a bit more get it out of here grin

I worked it out in the small hours that its about 35 days shock

not long then!
hunny I hope things go the way you want x I love the Icandy - I looked at the pear for my DCs.
wooley Jealous of your camping. We were supposed to be going but DH never bothered to bok any time off work sad

Where di you go in Wales? Was it a nice site - maybe we can get away at the end of the summer when bubs is a bit bigger.

We're just back from a very wet camping weekend in Wales but we enjoyed it anyway, just need to dry the tent.

Queenfee I hope you are recovered from your fall

Gillyan I hope all is going smoothly and you are getting the rest you need.

I turned 37 weeks today and moved the moses basket and stand into our room and have started talking to dd (2.5) that baby sister will be ready to come out soon. She offered to help squeeze her out!

I have a feeling these next few weeks are going to be very long .....

Thanku all for the lovely messages! I might still be the first to pop as my section is booked for 2nd July, thats 24 days away!!!! OMG

I've had a nice 90 min sleep on the sofa and DP has cooked tea and I've just had a bath and I've only had a few tightenings so fingers crossed she will stay put for a bit.

I was starting to wish I would go into labour but thinking about it she is in the best place for now, she would be 5 weeks early still. I really haven't got that big a bump and the MWs don't think I am going to have a big baby, DD was 7.5 at 37 wks so it's likely she will be on the smaller side.

We should start placing imaginary bets on wether I will make it to the 2nd or not...

It's a good job all my super organisation paid off! I must of known subconciuosly that this would happen as I had just done my bags and we had sorted everything out ( rememeber the excessive ironing of baby clothes?) maybe I was nesting!

Gosh I just popped on expecting to see a birth anouncement and get the opposite. Glad to hear u r well Gillyan, as exciting as it was to thik we were getting our first arrival your little princess is in the best place.

I've just seen the most gooorrrgeous baby in Mothercare, he's 2 weeks old and was born 5&1/2 weeks premature weighing 6lb 13! He was due on 28th June so it was weird to see him and know my baby would look similar.

Been and got final things for my hospital bag today eg maternity pads, PJ's, knickers etc. Thank god for Primark!

Gillyan take it easy!!!!!! I hope your LO stays put just a bit longer to be fully baked

I am so tired today, we had friends visit over the weekend and they have brought us their old changing table/chest of drawers and their old cot - just need a new mattress now!

I have been through the clothes again and am starting to wash the newborn/0-3 stuff now. Also the bedding for the moses basket. Still need to pick up quite a bit more in the way of clothes for baby but will wait to see what size we are looking at on Tuesday at the growth scan.

I am getting loads of strong BH's now and also on and off period type pain - public consensus is I am not going to make it to due date but I want to hang on a bit longer as I am only 34+3!

Realised this week that I can watch Big Brother and it will not have finished before baby is here - totally freaked me out!

Off to eat something now - no idea what - but we must have something

xxx

Glad you're safely back at home Gillyan and that baby is staying put for a little while longer. Lots of rest and absolutely no housework grin

Oh Gillyan.. What a nightmare for you. Put your feet up and take their advice to do nothing. Lots of hugs to you xxx

Oh I forgot, when i went in Wed they picked up a UTI which could of set the contractions off again even though I was on medication to supress them. I am now not on them anymore and am just on anti-biotics, I also then develeoped laryngitis and lost my voice totally and have an upper respiritory virus so coughing A LOT!

I am a total train wreck!

Hellooooooo, sorry to disappoint but I came home this morning with baby still safely ticked inside my tum!

The contractions were coming evry 3 mins last night for over 4 hours and the doc came to examine me. My cervix was closed though and he said it was my body trying to go into labour but obviuosly without dilateing it wasn't established labour.

I had t=some co-codamol at midnight and managed to drop off to sleep for a bit at 2 am. They had faded again when I woke up. I went on the monitor and wasn't having them again so I finally got to come home!

If I feel a twinge I am supposed to go staright back in becuase the baby will still be premature now but I think I will wait longer mext time to see for certain, I am only 5 mins from the hospital.

have been instructed to do nothing at all and if they start again to try lying down and if they don't stop I'll go back in!

It has been quite good being in hopsital as I have had ample oppurtunity to speak to lots of MW's and DOCS and I have FINALLY!!!!!!!!!decided on their advice to have the section, tquite a few of them think that my tear last time sounds like it was just becuase of the way my tussue is and they said even if I have a smaller baby i.e. she comes early it won;'t make much differnece. The deciding factors for them was when they learned DD was 7.5 and that I began tearing before her head crowned etc.

So thats it, I am defo having the section!

The midwives have said they can tell I will be the sort of person who will be home in 2 days and I'll be up and about ASAP, they pointed out if I tear again it would be much longer recovery!

Babies head still not engaged but I get VERY twingy if I walk even a short distance so I have to do nothing! Otherwise I am going to end up in and out of hopsital stopping and starting!

Hope you are all well, I really will try to read up everything Ihave missed but I can't sit at the comp too long and I can't read MN properly on my phone.

xxxx

Lots of luck and virtual hugs Gillyan

This is making it all seem very real. How exciting and scarey all at once. My consultant suggested to me on Friday that he wouldn't want me to go very overdue, so it looks like in 3-4 weeks time I will definitely have my new baby, if not before grin

I'm now 37 weeks so it could be any time shock

I really must make a few notes on my birth plan and make a decision on a name...

Wow, our first baby, good luck Gillyan

Wow hope all goes well Gillyan x x

OMG, just come over all goose pimply! Wow I can't believe the first baby! I hope that all is well and that the baby is ok (And you of course Gillyan!!) Looks like I will be checking mumsnet all day!!! xxx

I've suspected Gillyan was havin her LO, been checking on facebook and seen she's not updated.
Wow it's just made me cry a little! I can't wait to see the pics smile

Oh wow, hope she's ok, thank you for letting us know

Hi all, this is GILLYAN's partner, she's asked me to inform you all that she ended up back in hospital on weds. She has been having contractions on and off since then and is currently having stronger ones(sat night!), so looks like we're on the final straight! So so excited! I will try and keep you all up to date if i can!
Speak soon!x

Glad to hear I'm not the only one queenfee i dont think there's anythin wrong but didnt know whether i should go n pack my bag just in case?
I hope u r right about magical baby healing powers, that's why i kinda want baby to come sooner rather than later, hoping all the probs at the mo will be magically resolved once everyone lays their eyes on my gorgeous little boy. But maybe I'm just livin in a fantasy land.
I've ordered an Icandy Apple, I love it grin

No I have that really low down crampy feeling. In fact I have started a thread about it as I hadn't had before.
Sorry about the pram thing but if it makes you feel any better my MIL didn't speak to me or DH for 3 years because I said I didn't feel welcome at her house. (I wasn't being unreasonable either I wasn't allowed to shower and was shouted at for being there...) Some people just take things to heart I wouldn't worry she will come round when she sees the baby, babies have a magic way of healing upsets like that.
On a brighter note, what gorgeous pram have you ordered? (I am totally love buying my pram each time it's such a treat!)

Thanks for all your nice comments everyone. I feel ok except for these twinges. Hoping that just means baby will come a week early grin

BTW does anybody else keep gettin twinges really low down? It feels like I'm about to get my period n also feel sicky like I do just before my period starts. Not sure if baby is maybe working his way down and putting pressure on my cervix?

Hi all. I've just spoken to my ex n now I'm a little upset n pissed off. Apparently I had his SIL in tears the other week cos I declined her pram. I could understand it if I was rude about it but my ex had already said that I had really set my heart on a pram but we said we might as well look at hers whilst we were there. I looked at it and said it was lovely but I have really fallen in love with the pram I have seen and I've had a deposit on it since I was 4 months pregnant and that if I hadn't have already ordered my pram I would have loved hers etc. She said she understood and left it at that.
The truth is that the pram was crap but I certainly didn't let her know I thought that. Maybe I'm just a really crap liar but I don't see how I could have been any more polite about it.
I really didn't mean to upset her and I'm upset that I have but I'm also a bit pissed off that ppl can be sooooooooo sensitive cos I know that I really didn't do or say anythin rude.

Hi all, argh my laptop is dying! I am currently on DH's but mine fell off the sofa the other day and now half the screen doesn't work! It would be £120 to fix it (at least) plus my battery needs to be replaced too so I think I will have to buy a new one ARGHHHHHH! So I might not be on for a wee while til I get one, going to have a peek at some tomorrow I think and take my good friend Mr Credit Card with me.

Better start thinking about packing my hospital bag too, that's me 33 weeks but I have a feeling I'll be early again with this one!

Very behind, but quickly

queenfee glad you bounced well down the stairs ;-) seriously, hope it didn't give you too much of a scare
bags well didn't get a chance to pack much cos DP had to do it while I was in labour and then went back for stuff we'd forgotten afterwards, but what I wouldn't have done without:
Tea tree oil and salt (to put in the bath even if you don't have stitches, can be healing/soothing)
Your own pillow/towels (don't underestimate how shite NHS ones can be, and how important something like a nice pillow is when you haven't slept for 36 hours...)
Cash for bedside phone/tv/whatever
Comfy clothes that aren't PJs
What I didn't need:
Any toiletries for the baby - didn't use them for months - still hardly use them on DD and she's nearly 3. Almost everything comes off with just warm water and cotton wool smile

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fat ankles blimey my feet blew up so much in the hot weather I could only get flip flops on. Much relieved to see they're not so bad this morning when I needed something vaguely waterproof on my feet!

midwives anyone else's just a little too laid back? I think it's something to do with this being my second and planning a home birth, but they're chilled to the point of disinterest, and dammit I want some attention!

Feeling stupidly proud of myself cos I shortened a curtain. Now have to do the matching one and make a new one from the left-overs. Parents were up during the week helping to put up curtain rails and blackout blinds for DD, which was brilliant, but has been so successful that her light is casting new shadows and she's properly, genuinely freaked out. I thought it was just bedtime prevarication at first, but no, she was really quite frightened. Part of me was sympathetic (I used to lie in terror thinking the 'faces' in the wallpaper pattern were going to come to life) and part of me was screaming 'oh bloody hell, it's not real and why NOW of all times to develop fears!'

Afternoon all hope everyone is enjoying the weekend so far, this month seems to be be a real rollercoaster for some so far shock

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Saw midwife yesterday who thinks baby is still breech haved to go back 19th of june so she can check again, if no change then will be refered for scan and possible c section sad

. Sieatica really playing up today too. oh get this last night i took 3 bags of decent things to local charity shop only to then see a pikey turn up in a van a take the lot!! angry

that is sooo not right!!!. x x

Hi everyone

Wow Christiana, less than 2wks, that makes it all seem real shock

Hope baby turns for you, although a c/s isn't the end of the world.
Hope you're ok after your fall Queenfee.
I started packing my bag this morning, done about half of it, mostly baby things at this stage, as most of things for me I'm still wearing so can't pack them yet hmm

Cleared out dd2's room today and put the cot up and in there, and ordered the moses basket and cot mattresses so feeling more organised

My back isn't happy with all the things I've been doing today, hopefully will be ok for tomorrow as we want to take the dd's here dd2 will love seeing Dora and best of all it's free

Morning
Queenfee hope are you are ok from your fall!

Stuff for bags
I also take with me antibacterial wipes to wipe down shower/loo if you are sharing with others in the postnatel ward. A bit neurotic, I know, but I found them handy.

Paper knickers are also good. I wore them post birth and would just bin them after use.

And definitely towels. I don't even think they had spare adult towels for us where I gave birth the last 2 times.

Is anyone else sad the sun is gone? sad

Queenfee glad you’re okay after the fall. Can you ask to see a different consultant? Sounds like you have reason to ask if three(!) midwives disagreed with this one.

Plot2 hope your scan went well. After reading your post I’ve also booked a pedicure for next week

*Hospital bags* I forgot food/snacks last time and by the time I was up in the ward it was 11pm and I was starving! I think I’ll borrow your list too Phoenix

towels are a good idea. At antenatal they mentioned taking your own pillow for the same reasons. Maybe flip flops if too hot for slippers? I really do plan to do my hospital bag tomorrow… well at least start it!

I'd rather have my own huge bath towels

i just can't bring myself to do it becca

do you really need to take TOWELS? and things like that?

do I really have to pack my bag....? (sulky emote)

Hi London11

Yes i remembered about lip balm and its in my bag

Phoenix, just to add to your list, I'd recommend lipsil/some sort of lip stuff!! I found this so useful.

Hi everyone, I haven't posted for sooo long, apologies for not replying to anyone personally.

I have finally finished work and I'm looking forward to some rest! I am desperate to 'nest' so think I will start tidying and sorting baby things this weekend. We have been trying to sell our house but no luck so far so babies will definately be coming home here now.

I could possibly have babies in just 20 days as we have a potential c-section date of 25th June. Both babies are growing well and I feel like an elephant - I can't sleep and have been boiling hot this week. I have got a consultant appt next week so hopefully I will know the plan for certain then.

I have managed to pack a bag for hospital...just want to get some sweeties to put in then I'll be good to go!

Saw mw again today she is very sure baby is breech but I have a scan on Monday. So if I have a c section then I will have my baby in less than two weeks. My goodness.

I guess I better pack a bag - still haven't...

phoenix I would start just on breastfeeding to make sure supply is established

Thanks for the list Phoenix; I'm going to be very lazy and just copy yours! smile

Queenfee I think I left my message after reading the last page (brain completely gone!)so hadn't read about your fall but do hope you're ok and it's amazing how resilient our bumps are isn't it.

SO pleased the weather's cooler; nice to see blue skies but how hot did we feel!? (moan, moan, moan wink

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LargeGlassofRed Can't believe you're allowed to go to 40 weeks with twins!! I'm showing my ignorance but I thought multiple births tended to deliver earlier than that. You must feel humungous as I'm like a hippo, just carrying 1!! Well, feel as though my body's "normal" with a large bowling ball stuffed down my t shirt.

Gillyan Have you been & had your baby on the quiet........ If not, good luck to you <big virtual hug> and let us know how you are/post a piccie of your LO when you're able to?

I've just more or less packed my hospital bag. 6wks today is my due date

Has anyone mix fed (breast and formula) their other babies? How do you do it? What times are best for breast and when for formula? I'm only wanting to do it for a few weeks before moving fully onto formula.

Hi everyone!

Hospital bags, yes! Er, must pack, even though not planning a hospital birth. I have carrier bags full of baby clothes and breast pads, etc. strewn all round the house!

Hope Gillyan is okay as we've not heard for a bit...

Patchy, the BP was fine after I got it checked today. Thanks for posting on my other thread. I have ketones in my urine for the second time so I need to keep an eye on what I eat and try and not overdo things, apparently.

I'm sooooooooo tired and have last minute heartburn which is stopping me sleeping.

I too expect there will be some announcements soon! Is all very exciting.

queenfee, sorry to here about your fall, I'm glad your ok.
patchpob hope the car's ok.
I'm pretty organised now have my bags packed even found a t shirt for dp to wear afterwards 'I'm the daddy' grin

I bought him a fathers day card too from the bump smile

I really hope i've had them by then though.
I asked the midwife on thursday when I could have a sweap? she said oh not till 40+3 , I asked if they could do it earlier for twins? and she said 'oh no we can't do it before then' hmm

I have a consultant appointment on the 15th so will ask then.
Hope everyone else is ok? how are the other twin mummies feeling?

Also meant to say hope you're ok after your fall Queenfee and angry

at consultant for you.

This is the list i have got for my hospital bag.

Light dressing gown
Big knickers
Socks
Slippers
2x Nighties
Maternity pads
Breast pads
Towels (for me and baby)
Hair bobble
Toothbrush/Toothpaste
Hair brush
Shampoo/Conditioner
Deodrant
Shower gel
Camera
Mobile phone
Ipod
Nursing bra
V-pillow
Arnica
Juice
Magazine/book
Chocolate
Going home clothes

For baby
4x sleepsuits
4x vests
Cardigan
Hat
Scratch mitts
Going home outfit
Blanket
Muslins/bibs
Dummies
Cotton wool
Baby lotion
Nappies

Enjoy your last day at work hunny

Thanks ilys my list of things to pack was pretty much the same so it's good to know I'm on the right lines.

Hope you're ok after your fall queenfee sorry to hear you've had a bit of a nightmare with the midwives and consultants.

ruby I can't believe you've still been riding up until now. I've been waddling for months but maybe that's cos I've been a lazy cow and done virtually no physical exercise for the last 8 months lol.

It's my last day at work today and the girls have bought me a HUGE bunch of flowers, I'm really touched cos I really didn't expect anythin, I thought I only got a present when baby is born. grin

MW has just delivered my home birth kit (think yellow swing bin full of stuff). All seems very real now!

Gillyan Hope you are ok today and WOW what a shock it must have been for you. I've had lots of BH too and also had a couple of period type aches below bump just on one side. No other symptoms though, but your experience makes me think that you just never know. Sure your baby will be just fine and I'm very excited for you!! grin

I don't think I've said, but I finally stopped riding my old horse (but don't tell her I called her old). Ria's 23 and I've had her since she was 6. My midwife said if I've always ridden, then to carry on for as long as I felt comfortable, as long as I just plod about, then it's good exercise for me. I've even trained her to take me back to the mounting block at end of ride so can step onto it and push myself off. Anyway, time has flown by and now in my 36th week, get a stitch type pain under my bump, which no longer eases, and the front of the saddle rubs on my bump. No longer pleasurable, possibly not for Ria either blush

though I have tried to keep her active with gentle exercise as I feel this is good for general well being. Next time I get on, I'll be a recovering 3rd time mum!! Maybe bit sore in the undercarriage department smile

Feeling all our births are approaching ever faster and can't wait to hear all the good news! Good luck to everyone and OMG, MUST get my bag organised!! shock

Hi
sorry I can't now remember all the things I wanted to reply to but will do my best!
hosptial bag I was very glad I had already got mine packed last night when I fell down the stairs shock

Don't really know how it happened but it's left me all battered and bruised today sad

Went in to be checked over last night and all seems ok.
I was checked again this am as I had my consultant appointment over which I am still angry

When I was in last night no fewer than 4 midwives said I was measuring 37/38 weeks. However the consultant this am said oh no you are fine for your dates shock

. She also tried to argue that with DS I only had a second degree tear - yeah right whatever. Thats prob just written in my notes as I was stiched on the ward and you are supposed to got to theatre for 3rds. The best I have got out of her is to give me sweeps from 39 weeks and not to let me go over so have an induction for 10th july booked (3 days over). I was not happy this morning! I need to have a think and see if I am happy about this or not as my head is buzzing now. On the bright side no more than 37 days till I have this baby grin

activity thanks for the advice re swelling
cars I am annoyed that my car took one look at the heat and the air con stopped working!

lydia I have this reaction to loads of tablets. I found it is ok if I take them immidiately after food. Otherwise I am sick within minutes of taking them.

breastfeeding anyone who is intersted in breastfeeding there is a nice new DVD out about it. It is available free from your midwife and is called bump to breastfeeding. There is a link to the internet version here
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Sorry it's so long tonight!

Hunny I have a list somewhere for what I took in last time but TBH if your mum is near the hospital and if you have visitors you don't need to worry about forgetting anything. eg, my DS was tiny so didn't fit the nappies or clothes I'd brought in but MIL went out and got us tiny baby clothes.

I'd say take things like nappies, maybe a wee bottle of baby shampoo (your baby might not even get a bath though if you are out quickly), don't think you'd need sudocrem (I only use it if there is a rash), also I didn't use wipes on DS for ages cos they have really sensitive skin, water and cotton wool is the best (hospital may have this). Take some huge sanitary pads although my hospital provided these too, it's prob worth checking out what the hospital have so you don't need to take things in unecessarily.

Ummm, clothes for you and baby, for you take 2 nighties (one to give birth in and one for after), I got cheapo ones from Primark with front buttons for BFing, they were fab! Also get some cheap big pants, don't buy crappy paper disposables! Take some day clothes for you (comfy things like joggy bottoms etc). Baby will need a few vests and babygros and if you like a nice going home outfit. I took some paper and pen and wrote down my experience of labour, you quickly forget the details and it's funny reading back now. Um what else... some boiled sweets to suck through labour, lip balm as gas and air can make your lips a bit dry (although I didn't find this), hairbands to tie hair back, some nice toiletries, can't think what else really but will let you know once I find my list!

I've not even started getting things for my bag so better get a move on! BTW I also took my ipod and mags but I didn't use either of them, too busy having a baby!

Oh and most importantly- your camera!!!!! (amke sure it's charged)

The midwife told me we don't need to take bath stuff etc cos they have it all there. I might just double check with her. I'm actually really lucky cos my mum only lives a 5 min walk from the hospital so if there's anythin I need she can always go to Mothercare/Asda etc and bring it to me smile

I remember taking some things in that i got in the Bounty pack that you get after the birth. eg. Baby bath stuff, sudocrem, wipes. The only thing with that is you can't guarentee what will be in your Bounty pack hmm

hospital bags - has anyone got any tips of what to pack? anythiin u couldn't have managed without or things u packed but wish u hadn't bothered?

I know ilike i saw that, scary. It was a 3d/4d scan too shock

Bozette - Yay for c-section date.

Patchy - I hate cars, hope it's not expensive.

Was just having a nosy at the June thread and there's been a little girl born who they thought was a boy at the scan ie they had seen a willy and everything! shock

(obviously wasn't a willy then LOL)

Haven't posted for a while as still working full time and feeling quite knackered. 2 weeks and counting!!

Gillyan fingers (and legs!) crossed for you.

MrsCrunch hello,I used to live v.close to balham, am a bit further out now. Its a great place to live, very cool. Its very close to wandsworth common/clapham common and area which is babyville and there are lots of lovely places to go.

*washing clothes* i have to admit that before DS 1 was born i washed everything, new or second hand with non-biological detergent and sensitive fabric conditioner and continued doing that for about 4 months!!! I think that i'll still wash everythingbut not separately, and largely to help me mentally prepare as it all looks so cute and tiny!!

I got adate for my c-section today!! Monday 13th July!! Makes it all very real somehow.

Well I saw the midwife, all geared up for the abuse and it was a different one who was very nice and said that I was doing the right thing!! Only prob is I now have to wait 2 weeks to explain to the other midwife!! Anyway like you said soozee I may never see her again!

This baby is also posterior, which did make me feel slightly better about the c section decision!

Had a nightmare with my car today. Its been making a strange noise for days and after I came out of the midwife appt it was much worse.Got the dc from school and dropped into the garage down the road. The mechanic took it for a spin and told me not to drive it as there is something really wrong with it! DH away and now car less. Joy! Have had to organise friends to take the dc to school tomorrow and don't know when I will get it back sad

Sounds expensive!

Hopefully will have good news tomorrow xx

Gillyan - Hope you're doing ok, keep us posted.

Soozzee - Glad the potty training went sort of ok. Hope it gets better once he is better. My ds keeps saying he wants Noah to stay in my belly too if we tell him off about something. They'll get over it, they have to

Welcome to the thread MrsCrunch

. I'm not near London either sorry.

Leg cramps - I got them terribly with ds but this time not so much fingers crossed. It's the worst pain ever.

Lydia -

for computer been fixed

Hospital bag - I know i suggested having 2 bags but can someone help me as to what goes in the labour bag for either a natural birth or a c section as i don't know which i'll be having yet.

I've probably forgot loads of stuff i wanted to say blush

hi everyone, computer is hopefully finally fixed! trying to catch up with everyones news...
GILLYAN hope you're ok, must be very scary time, keep us posted on how you're doing!
hello mrscrunch also nowhere near you but wanted to say hi!
legcramps definately getting those its awful and makes me cry out in bed, much to dps astonsihment!
hospitalbag have mine sort of packed, went to manc for the weekend last week and dp insisted on me taking it just in case!
babynames we thought we'd settled on miles, but after dd let it out the bag and people sarted commenting(mostly good!) we have completely gone off it and baby is currently and will remain nameless! dd has the nickname ned for him as we wanted her to 'bond' with him by giving him a name whilst in tummy, but we are starting to call him ned and think this will end up sticking!
im now 34+ something...im still measuring big about 37 weeks now, but baby is not big and not carrying excess waters but am still
huge! it feels like the top of my abdoman, below my ribs is ripping open, im in agony...my midwife knows how uncomfortable i am she's so lovely, do you think it'd be wroth me asking her on tues if they'd consider giving me a sweep at 38 weeks?
also is anyone taking PREGADAY i was given this by midwife as am anaemic but it was making me vomit 40 mins after taking it has anyone else had a reaction to it?
will be able to keep up properly now (hopefully!) with everyones news!

Hello and welcome MrsCrunch - I don't know Balham I'm afraid but I second the suggestion to look at the MN local groups, they arrange local meet-ups. Bet there's loads going on near you, it's a bit of a 'nappy valley' down there isn't it!

Sleeves that' a lovely story about your fertility group ladies.

I have all the 'ingredients' for my hospital bag now. My sister thought it looked like an awful lot and that I'd probably be out in six hours with a baby and a dozen uneaten flapjacks grin

ilike the leg cramps are awful. milky drinks before bed are supposed to help. any excuse for a hot chocolate

Gillyan you're amazing being so calm, i hope all is going well for you today and the baby stays put for a while longer

I don't have a hospital bag packed either yikes. I hadn't thought of 37 weeks as being term - that's only next weekend!

patchybob I wouldn't worry about what your rude midwife thinks, you won't see her at the birth and maybe not again anyway.

phoenix the running out of nappies went quite well for around 4 days. well i say 'quite well' because ds would wear the pants happily but he still didn't see the need to go to the toilet though ! Anyway then he got sick and had a fever for a couple of days so we stopped. I'm hoping to have the energy to start up again this weekend. Trouble is i'm worried I'm wasting my time as I've heard they regress once a baby arrives. He's already curling up in my arms and literally going 'goo goo, ga, ga'. hmmm. he's also announced he'd like the baby to stay in my tummy, not quite sure what to say/do on that.

Hi *Mrs Crunch*, I'm not near you either but wanted to say hi too

Welcome MrsCrunch, I'm in Scotland so can't help you out with what's on in your area! Hope your move goes well.

I'm skiving off at home- had a midwife appt at 2pm and just stayed at home afterwards to 'work' (well, I do live 40 minutes drive from work). The appt went well I think, the midwife showed me how to feel the babys head and bum! I thought the big hard bit on my RHS was the bum but I'd never felt his head, it was quite exciting! I also got to hear his heartbeat which was lovely. They detected leucocytes (sp?) in my urine (high white blood cell count I think) so they are sending it off to the lab in case I have a UTI or something. I feel fine though and no bladder probs other than baby pressing on my bladder. Has anyone else ever had this result from their pee test?

I heard amazing news yesterday, there is a group of women I have met via my fertility problems, 7 of us who meet up every few months or so. We were all needing IVF and the likes and some of the women had failed treatment after failed treatment, it was really heartbreaking. When we all met we had no babies and now between us we have 6 babies and there are 3 current pregnancies! The 2 women who had the toughest time getting PG are now both safely into their pregnancies so I am well chuffed! Just goes to show eh?

Thanks Quiltedrose gonna do some research on that quickly

Cheekycel Yes if you look at the back of the pack, Pregnacare only contains 50% of the RDA of magnesium and that is the non-pregnancy amount - pregnant women need slightly more. As you can see from this link the RDA is 360mg. It was just something the midwife suggested to me as when you get severe pre-eclampsia they give you a huge dose of magnesium to bring your BP down - so intuitively it suggests that it might be some help. My dietitian friend insists that if you eat healthily you don't need a magnesium supplement, but I don't want to take the chance plus am eating lots of rubbish (today have just eaten plain bread and now some cheesecake grin

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Potassium is also supposed to help, so lots of bananas and dried apricots grin

Check first though if you are on any medication for BP as it can amplify its effect.

I had my BP taken by the midwife an hour ago and it was 136/82 and this time around in my last pregnancy I was hospitalised as it was 200/120 shock

That's not necessarily all down to magnesium but maybe it's helped, who knows?

Speaking of midwife appts have told midwife about my Monday night false labour and upset tummy and she has given me a fortnight...erk!

Gillyan shock

!! I'm due the day before you and I'm nowhere near ready so it's scary to think it could happen already. Hope everything goes ok over the next few days, looks like we'll be having some birth announcements pretty soon then.

Welcome mrscrunch smile

I'm so tired today, I woke up at 5.30am and couldn't get back to sleep. Thank God tomorrow is my last day in work, I can't wait grin

Hello everyone. Hope you are all well and enjoying this slightly cooler weather!

I slept like a baby last night having had 2 awful nights in a row and I was feeling crappy. Today I feel fab!!! Long may it last!

Seeing the midwife later and I am dreading it as I haven't seen her since the consultant ok'd the c section. Last time i saw her she made me feel like a major loser for even considering it, so I am scared to tell her!! How silly of me really!

Gillyan hope you are hanging on in there. Welcome MrsCrunch

Welcome MrsCrunch! Im in Norbury so not too far from you. Due with my first on 10 July.

Thanks for the BP info Quiltedrose. Im already taking Pregnacare which contains magnesium. Should I take an extra supplement?

Gillyan hope all is well with you ((hugsssss))

Here's wishing a lovely day to all, and sorry i havent commented on everything blush

ive already lost track of who said what!

Hi Mrs Crunch! I don't live anywhere near London so can't help with the antenatal qu's - have you tried the Mumsnet Local boards? But wanted to say hello and welcome :-)

moodylou get that bag packed! grin

I sometimes think we put it off a bit because having a packed bag sat in the hall makes it all seem too real. (I haven't finished packing mine either blush

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Gillyan if you're around how are you today?

fanjo pains is prob pelvic joints stretching in preparation for having a head stuffed through them grin

Personally think it's the worst bit of all, makes it soooo hard to get in and out of bed!

Welcome MrsCrunch smile

Hope all goes well with the move smile

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Sorry I am nowhere near Balham so can't help although I am sure some of the more experienced MNers will be able to point you in the right direction grin

Gillyan shock

about the contractions etc, good for you being so cool, calm and collected about it grin

I know I wouldn't be the same!!!

Sitting in the office in a positively cool 19 degrees; after the 28 and 30 of the previous 2 days it is positively bliss-full!! grin

We have interviewed for my maternity cover and it looks like we'll be getting someone for my last week in work so I can hand over grin

- only got 9 full days left [dancing smiley] grin

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Oh well, better get back to work and sort out all the stuff I need to for my cover coming in smile

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Hope everyone has a good day grin

hello everyone,

I am new to mumsnet, going to be a first time mum (due 6th July) to a baby girl and will be moving to back to balham next week after 2 years abroad. yes, I am mad enough to move 5 weeks before my due date but so far I have been blessed with a very easy pregnancy and everything seems to be going according to plan... I would love to meet new mums to be as I have done all my antenatal stuff away from Balham and feel a bit out of the loop. also, can someone recommend a good antenatal yoga class? Thanks a lot!

It's getting scary now - i'll be classed as full term in a week and i still haven't finished packing my hospital bags even though i started doing it about 6 weeks ago!

Woollyjo I get shooting pains down the front of my left thigh and the doctor said it's SPD. Does it get worse when you're standing still?

Hope you're okay Gillyan. It certainly sounds like they've done the best thing for you and baby. I had a very similar experience with DS2 who threatened to come at 35 weeks. He eventually managed to hang on another fortnight so wasn't even classed as premature when he arrived. He was such a little skinny thing, but made up for it by eating like a horse and became a very chubby baby eventually! He's now a healthy and not at all chubby 8 year old grin

ilys I get a lot of leg cramps at night, but now manage to wake myself up just as they are starting. I know it's painful, but you really need to flex your foot to stretch the calf muscles (bring your toes up towards your shin). I promise you it works and stops the cramping. It goes against what your leg is doing and needs a deep breath as it's hard to do, but it really is the only way. I can now stop the cramp setting in by doing it quickly, but if you're too late for that it still helps hugely.

Wow Gillyan, how calm are you given you've been having contractions! I hope baby stays put for a while longer and you aren't feeling too uncomfortable.

Leg cramps, OUCH!!! I've had a few now during the night, another one being last night, and man are they sore or are they sore? I had these last time too, does anyone know how to make them less likely or what to do when they strike?

Shooting fanjo pains I'm having them too! I walked down to collect DS from nursery today and I had to stop 3 times cos of these pains, ouch! I think it's baby kicking me but I did start to think, yikes things could be happening here! I'm only 32+5 so I hope not.

christiana I am intruiged. What is your DH's name??! Vesuvius? I can't think of any more volcanoes!!!

baby in room I had DS in with us for 5 months, I wanted to be close to him and I think he benefited from being close to us too. The cot death recommendations freaked me out too so I tried to have him in with us for at least 6 months as per recommendations.

Gorgeous bump pictures BeccaBump and Phoenix - makes me feel better even though mine is covered in stretch marks. But it is big - but seeing your two it's just what it should be I suppose.

Quilted - I iron the baby clothes because I don't use fabric conditioner or a tumble drier (I'm alergic to fabric conditioner and don't ahve a drier) - so the clothes are quite hard and creased if I don't. Otherwise I wouldn't dream of it grin

- should rename myself as House_Slut grin

Activity sometimes there are chemical fabric finishes on the cloth the clothes are made of. I like to wash it off before putting it next to a new-born's skin. But it is not essential. Do what you have time to do.

Just a quick post....Gillyan hope you are ok!?!

take care gillyan!!!

i now think i have piles. oh the glamour. sad

also, i really feel like this baby is pushing down on my cervix - i feel very uncomfortable down there and keep getting shooting pains. does anybody know what happens if you go into labour before your section date? do you still get to have a section?

Thanks all for your kind messages

quilted Hello - glad to hear your Lo was okay. I have already been round the SCBU unit so feel quite calm, I am really amazed at how calm I have been actually, there's nothing anyone can do so I'm just going with the flow.

I had been having some very painful twinges for a few days, like baby was bouncing on my cervix, and I have been having VERY strong BH's for weeks now, but very irregular ones. I was just sat down when all of a sudden I felt 2 period like pains go across the bottom of my tum, then I started getting very strong BHs and then my back ached like with a period. I stood up and just wanted to rock my hips and I felt pressure down there and also like I needed to do a poo too, which I didn't. definately felt very odd and knew it was more than BHs but I still stuck it our 2 n half hrs before ringing hospital as I was convinced they would stop the minute I got there. I tried all sorts of different positions too as BH are supposed to ease off if you move whereas proper contractions can get worse. The latter was true for me so thought I best ring the hopsital.

I slept really well last nigt in bed, woke up about 6 times but got sleep, and I have had 3 hrs this morning on the sofa. I got a total of 4 hrs sleep in hospital over 2 nights!!!!!!!!

Will keep u all updtaed anyway.

I hope you are all okay, not had time yet to read through everything I have missed

Bonzo

at ironing baby clothes grin

Gillyan every day inside is a bonus - let's hope those tablets work! DD1 was born at 36+4 and had a week in SCBU because she was small (5 1/2lbs) as I had high BP. And you know some babies just do come early! I was born at 35 weeks and I've turned out a bit of a freak OK smile

SCBU is not as scary as you think, although it's not what you'd choose, it's almost as if your body does not let you panic. Could I suggest asking if you could go and have a look round SCBU? Just an idea but it helped me - once I saw how calm and organised it was and that you are quite well supported as a parent I felt a whole lot better the prospect. Good luck, will be thinking of you and keeping my legs fingers crossed grin

Early labour had really bad upset tummy since the weekend, which can sometimes be 'a sign' (although it could be related to the fact that we had bbq's sat and sun) and spent most of last night on all fours on the bedroom floor because the baby feels like it's trying to push it's way out! Not to mention the BH's... This being my 2nd, feels very much to me like mine is planning to come out sooner rather than later too. Had acupuncture this morning and the acupuncturist (who is also a midwife) has told me to take things reaaalllly easy at home (not so easy with a 3 year old) and try and keep the baby in there until 36 weeks or else I'd be for the steroid injections too. It could just pass - hope it does. I'd love to hit 37 weeks!

cheekycel I had high BP last time round, this time around the MW suggested I take a magnesium supplement (I am taking 250mg) as it can help keep a lid on high BP - it seems to be working for me as BP hasn't been an issue this time - just worth thinking about maybe?

Really glad the weather has cooled down. Feel a bit mean praying for rain grin

but bring on the sun in August I say (sorry to the August girls!)

Activity - I didn't bother washing any new clothes last time but i have this time and the only reason for that is i had all the new and second hand stuff in a box all together so thought it would be better to wash the lot.

I've just added some bump pics to my profile. I didn't realise how big it was shock

Just had first appt with the MW at my new practice and really liked her

baby isn't breech anymore and all is well. She's going to refer me to physio for the SPD though.

They don't do hospital visits here but she's lent me a DVD of a tour of the facilities at my new hospital. What a good idea!

QueenFee I asked about the swelling, she said nothing to worry about unless I swell up suddenly "like the Michelin Man" especially if there's a headache too. Apparently lots of her her pg ladies are suffering with swelling because of the heat. She recommended feet in a washing up bowl of cold water and also running cold water over the pulse points on the wrists for a couple of minutes.

Woolyjo Niamh is a beautiful name for a summer baby.

Daft first-timer question of the day.. do I need to pre-wash all my new baby clothes as well as the second-hand ones I've been lent?

Ooh Gillyan what a roller coaster for you!

You and I are due on the same day! I've had a lot of contractions and started getting regular ones after doing some heavy lifting I shouldn't have. Mine have settled now and am just getting the odd ,take your breath away BH, thankfully. I hope you are managing to stay calm and that your baby can hold on just a teensy bit longer.

Sorry all for not keeping up with this thread too well. I never get chance to sit and read the messages for long enough as I have to fight for laptop with my 3 DC a lot of the time!

Getting very excited now as not long til the 37 week landmark!

Despite being very uncomfy, have loved the sunny weather too...want more!

thanks chellebelle I'll have a look there.

EEEk Gillyan I hope the tablets keep working and little one stays inside a bit longer! Fingers crossed for you!

ActivityApple - remember your mum's experience is soooo long out of date. And anyway ... why the heck would you want to get out of bed to BF and wake yourself up (and possibl your hubby) when you can just bring little one into bed, feed them and then put them back and all of you go to sleep? Anything else seems like madness to me. (Alos I'd get your hands in really cold water with lots of washing up liquid and get those rings off as soon as you can - morning is best).

Gillyan Hope you are ok and trying to get some rest! Just to let you know my sister was delivered at 36 weeks with no complications and no need for SCBU (she was 6 and a half pound!!) and she turned 27 today - eek! I am keeping everything crossed for baby cooking a bit longer and a happy delivery!

My bump is so heavy today, I really don't know how I am supposed to fit any more baby in there?? I have posted my bump pic on my profile - scary bikini shot too!

nesting anyone else started yet? I have scared myself with how much I have done today hmm

Going to lie down now - can't cope with the humidity and heat!!!

xxx

I think little'un will be Niamh or Hannah with Hope and Anne (her great grandmas' names) as middle names. I love Elsie but DH hates it. DD1 is Mae Rachel Edith, again middle names are the other great-grandmas.

Anyone else getting shooting pains down the front of their thighs? they really hurt, wondering if baby has moved south as I'm 36+ weeks now.

gillyan Hope you are ok, I just want to make it to 37 weeks and then I will be more than happy to have this baby!

Thanks guys, I am surprisingly calm actually, I am due my tablets at 9pm, now basically and I have already felt 2 contractions ( well tightenings now rather than harsher ones' I was getting ) so better go get my tablets. Can't see them stopping without the tabs though!

X-posted with you Gillyan, good for you for being so calm!

I'm attempting to get on with the to-do list. So far I've pre-washed all my reusable nappies and baby clothes are next in the machine.. Been a bit too knackered to do a real blitz after unpacking the new house and all this heat, I do one thing and I'm pooped!

QueenFee I'll be asking my MW tomorrow about swelling, my hands have got so swollen that I can't make a proper fist anymore.

Thanks everyone for the advice on having the Moses basket in the same room, I'm glad the consensus is positive. My Mum keeps giving me lots of well-meaning advice about how DP's going to need his sleep hmm

and how I shouldn't disturb him by bf'ing in bed shock

We're set on the name Sidney now, and we've even started calling the bump by his proper name now. Which feels nice but kinda weird!

Thanks for the best wishes Hobnob and good luck with the scan.

I might have a peek at the June thread too, I was originally a June 28th EDD so it might scare the bejesus out of me if the later ones start popping soon. <deep breaths>

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