Here is a link to the sparkly new thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/767006-Due-October-2009-Feeling-better-and-feeling-baby

Calypso Sorry you've had to stop cycling, Its a bit of a landmark when pregnancy first stops you from doing something. But WELL DONE for getting this far! Maybe you can do some less stressed cycling at weekends or something.

Re renovation dust, you're prob doing this already but are you sealing the doors to other rooms in the house? Shut the doors and seal round with gaffa tape, I should at least keep the dust to a few rooms. I think you can hire industrial vacuums that constantly suck the air in but I have no idea how much they cost vs how much you're worried. You could always invest in one of those dust masks for yourself whenever you're around the dust.

Ballio, I have days of this, I think its everything stretching and your organs having to move up out of the way. Of course being "regular" can only help make some more room so I'm eating lots of fruit at the mo! I had stabbing pain in the bottom of my ribs, left hand side yesterday. It would come and go but it was really sharp. It's gone today so I'm assuming it was more reorganisation! Hope you're feeling better today.

I love the cooler weather! I'm definitely a winter person, I burn in the sun, get heatstroke in the heat and come out in really itchy rash. JOY! Bring on autumn! I think I need to get more mat clothes, as most of mine are too hot as dd was a january baby and I wore my own clothes for most of the summer I was pg with her. Also keep throwing my bras in the bin with disgust as they are now soooo uncomfortable!

{waves} Hi everyone!

Quick browse through and see there have been some lovely scans and some not so lovely medical staff, bah, what terrible healthcare, hope things improve on that front

Fidelma - such awful news about your friend

KleinMaus We've too have just sanded all our floors and are in the process of renovating our hallway so I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND your concerns regarding dust (am also asthmatic). Our house is 1850s so also concered re lead-based paints etc (and we have lead water pipes which we now run through a lead reduction filter but still weighs on my mind for any very early pg damage ). House has been a building site for over a year though and very much want it to be finished before baby comes.

Don't have any advice as such - we hoover a lot but dust gets EVERYWHERE. Have two other friends who had babies the last 3 weeks also house renovating and their babies seem very healthy

Sad day today - have very reluctantly given up cycling to work as of this morning. Yesterday's cycle home was nothing short of miserable; a gazelle-like racer bike and London traffic do not make for a relaxing communte at 5 months pg. Even had a Braxton-Hicks at Waterloo roundabout - a liability with all that traffic. Was hoping to make it to 7months but will endeavour to walk it instead...

Happy voting / exercising your democratic rights day

Hi all

We have finally fixed our internet so hopefully i can catch up with how everyone is going! (its a lot of reading)

Few aches and pains here, seem to be in agony with possibly trapped wind, its all over my tummy though right up to my ribs, feels like trapped wind but nothing seems to releive it......or maybe its something else, can anyone shed any light? starting to worry myself a bit!

Im also pleased its been a cooler day today, was a big sweaty mess over the hot days

Yay that people like the title!

i like the new thread titile

hope everyone is ok - so pleased it is cooler today ...

x

Can`t believe the incompetence of some of your consultans.

princessmel like the title and definetly need new thread can`t believe its no.4 already.Am completely useless with thinking about a good title myself.

Was suffering really bad with SPD mon and tue felt like an old lady when tried to walk.Pain was going from pelvis all down my right thigh.Think need to go back to physio.Are there any excerises I can do?Feeling better today.
Baby seems to be moving less at moment but did move loads when I had chocolate yesterday. Feel so of you who have heard HB I got a listening device from Mothercare but still haven`t managed to hear the HB. Wish I got a doppler now as mine is rubbish.

Sorry some of you are having rubbish times with consultants etc.
I can't believe how incompetant some of them seem.

WRT the new thread, how about we call it something to do with starting to feel better and starting to feel baby! Like feeling better and feeling baby! Or is that totally rubbish!?

I have been gardening with my dad and dd all afternoon. Feel very pleased with myself

Smallone oh my god!!!!! Did the silly bitch even have the dropler on??? Why do people have to blame everything but themselves. She could of had you in a right panic if you hadnt of known....a hell of a lot more than she did! And MrsKitty....i would of slapped his hand away and told him where to go, bloody people! Having a high BMI isnt a health hazzard to your baby, ive known alot of things to happen to really thin people. Im 3 stone heavier this time round, and so what, a nice wee padded tummy for my baby

Hope everyone else is doing ok

hello everyone.

we need a new thread as this one takes ages to load on my crappy laptop. any ideas?

smallone and mrskitty, how very upsetting. people can be so insensitive sometimes.

MrsKitty , I think you were very restrained not to have said more! I also have the very attractive high bump where my belly flab seems to be underneath, and she asked me to "lift this" so she could scan underneath, twonk, despite the fact that I'm lying there with a tight flat belly button 4 inches higher!...hmm what did she think that was? my lunch? I was too at the time and I hadn't seen what she was writing in my notes but if I see her again I hope I'll give her a piece of my mind! I might ask them to read out what they are writing while I'm there so they can say it to my face.

May I also point out that your growth chart is calibrated on your height and weight so it takes into account your pre-existing shape, that's why they are sent off for individually. If you are unfortunate enough to meet him again you could shame him with his lack of knowledge. That or sympathise with him that he can't hide his faults under his clothes.

Apparently they want high BMIers to meet with the anesthetist so they can assess what size elephant gun they'd need to knock you out. I did point out to my MW that surely if I needed another cs they'd have to give me another spinal (which I had last time with no probs), its not like they can just give me a wooden spoon to bite on can they? She did snort, and agree with me!

smallone Yep, I too have found that "high BMI" is a convenient 'catch all' for several medical professionals shortcomings and or inability/desire to find any other reason.

The worst experience I had last time around was when I went to a consultants appointment late on in PG but saw the anaesthetist instead (not sure why - consultant not available or if it was to discuss options re: pain relief) Anyway he had a woman with him (possibly a student) and he checked for HB then wanted to measure bump (to check growth/expected weight of baby I assume) then (and this is the bit!) he grabbed my flabby bit of tummy waved it about and said to the woman "we can't measure accurately because of all this <<waves flab around>> so it's a bit pointless but we have to do it" Was sooooo upset and in tears for hours ..Then he was the bl**dy anaesthetist for my epidural! I was on copius amounts of gas & air at the time so whispered (probably not very discreetly) to my midwife and anyone else that would listen that I didn't like him and that he was a mean mean man .

I'm at a different hospital this time around (still on consultant care due to BMI) and so far, so good... Hoping I'll avoid any similar situations!

Hopefully this registrar will be the only one with this attitude that you come across during this pregnancy.

Thanks RS too! Too skint for a doula I think, but I'm going to talk to my community MW about my birth plan as the main thing concerning me is the constant monitoring. I think as long as I can remain mobile I'll be fine and I don't want to be strapped down constantly. I managed to say no to alot of things while I was having dd so I think as long as I have the right info before hand I can hold my own.

Thanks HC I think it might have even been a duff doppler coz it picked up nothing, not even my heartbeat! Its a very good job that I was so confident that my baby was ok, coz otherwise she could have got me really panicked. But the fact that I had a high bmi was not dealt with at all during the appt. Hopefully I'll see the actual consultant at my next appt at 36wks and I might get some sense out of him.

thank you for all the birthday wishes - DS is snoring away, exhausted after all the cake eating

Smallone - that is rubbish

when i was PG with DS my sonographer wrote on my notes "difficult scan due to BMI" - she was the only one who ever had any issue finding anything

really sorry you have had a rubbish experience

have you thought of getting a doula? They can really help suport you to get the VBAC

anyhoo - how is everyone doing in the heat? I am wilting ... ankles are so swollen - am sure even my toes are fat

smallone- at your experience. Can't believe this is happening to you as when I had DD2 I was 4 stone overweight and nobody in the medical profession said anything. Infact when I turned up with a baby nobody had known I was PG as I obviously looked just overweight to them. A girl at work was due a month before me and the customer's bought her pressies and I did wonder why they didn't buy me anything being as though I had worked there 19 more years than her. Try and get your VBAC as you will be more than able to deliver this way.

Happy B'Day to ruby's DS.

Hope all OK.

HC
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23 weeks!

Hi all, had consultants appt today and saw his registrar who was rubbish, thick accent and mumbled so I could only understand one word in 5. Basically said I was there because of previous cs and a high bmi, and had I had any thoughts about the delivery of this baby. I said I wanted to try a vbac but if I ended up with another cs then so be it. She gave me some info on vbac and then said she'd listen to the heartbeat.

She then struggled for at least a minute to hear anything on the doppler, not even my heartbeat, but she was putting it really low down, close to my pubic bone and I was thinking, the baby isn't there anymore you twit, its somewhere near my navel. But anyway after a while of letting her panic I told her that the baby was kicking so I knew it was ok. She then looked mightily relieved and said she wanted to scan to check, so we did that, again she struggled to even find the baby but it was there and fine, and off I trotted.

So I read my notes on the way home and the cheeky witch has put in my notes that she was unable to find the babies heartbeat because of my high bmi. Nothing to do with her own incompetence of course. I wonder what her excuse would have been if I hadn't have been overweight. I must back this up with the fact that no-one else has had a problem getting a heartbeat or scan, and I even heard the hb at 16wks. GRR

Yes happy birthday to RS ds

happy birthday to your big boy rubyslippers

Dd and her friend had a fab time! I didn't get wet, some mums were in bikinis! I was really hot so moved into the teeny bit of shade as soon as someone left.

Went to get ds some sandals this afternoon. I can't bear to think of him with hot feet at school. The thought of wearing huge black shoes and socks makes me feel faint. Anyway ds is only allowed closed toe sandals at school and they are really hard to find. Crocs don't count.
Clarks have some but they are about £35 and that is too much. He will only be at school for another month or so, then will only want to wear his crocs.

I got some in Next in the end for £14. They only had one closed toe type. They don't look very 'schooly' but that is tough! If anyone complains I will send in a letter.

I am making a quiche tonight, inspired from another thread. I hope it turns out ok!

Re antenatel classes, we are not doing them. We did them with ds and that's it.

Hi everyone. Glad to hear that it's all going well for you all and that there have been some successful scans. My baby is wriggling around so much now - I think he was inspired by Diversity on Saturday night!! Am definitely going to have give up coffee. Was feeling a bit tired this morning, so stopped off for a Starbucks on the way to work - couldn't finish half of it because s/he started squirming so much. Made me feel a bit guilty - like I'd upset him.......

KleineMaus - how much longer is the DIY going on for? Is there any way you can block off your main living room and keep it dust free for the duration? It certainly sounds as if it would be a hassle to move out, but I can understand why you're concerned. I could reassure you and tell you that it'll be fine, but that's not because I know that for a fact.....

princessmel - at the splashpark. I would just love to be in a lovely outdoor swimming pool just now....... I looked up the class schedule for the local swimming pool the other day but they don't seem to offer anything for mums to be which is a bit disappointing.

Next midwife appointment tomorrow. It's crept up on me - I thought it was ages away when they first made it for me, and now here it is!

Is anyone else doing DIY? I'm not doing it personally, but in the past two weeks dh has sanded floors, painted two bedrooms and is in the process of dismantling the ceiling in the kitchen. Our house is covered in dust. I'm feeling a bit guilty that I haven't just moved out for the sake of ds and this baby's health. The dust isn't bothering me (and I'm asthmatic), but I can't help wondering what might be in the dust from an old building (1890s I think). Basically I'm hoping for people to tell me not to worry about it. I suppose I could have gone to my mum's but it's such a disruption to our routine and I'm editing a book that needs to be finished before the baby arrives and I need to spend a lot of time online for it and my mum only has a clunky, slow landline connection which they have to pay for during the day so I can only use it at night. Am I being selfish?

lovely princessmel

am having a browse now ...

Pic of ASOS sale dress on profile!

Hello

Glad some of you have found some nice things at ASOS. I will try and put a pic of me wearing the dress on my profile.

I am off to the splash park with dd and her friend in a bit. It is not going to be as nice weather wise the rest of the week, so want to make the most of it.

I am feeling more and more slight movements from baby. Very spaced out and iregular though. I did think it would more definate movements by now. Heard the hb again this morning. It is so easy to find now which is great.

Scan on thursday, not long now!

good morning everyone

DS is 3 today <<sob>>

Off to work soon in the blazing sun but may have a look at ASOS first

have good days

x

Pricessmel Just popped on asos and got 2 dresses and a top! Both the dresses i nearly got a few weeks ago but got distracted when it came to the paying part. They have both gone into the 30% off promo so have saved a fair bit so feel really chuffed! Thanks for reminding me!

Kleine i wont be going to the classes this time arround, didn't find them that useful last time as also read up allot and watched a fair bit of birth related programmes before hand.

fidelma Hope it all goes well with your ds.

Think we have a name now but is a secret as i think its a grower. If we tell people now they will ruin it for me. Harder to be rude when it belongs to a baby.

Kleine Maus - I am not planning on going to antenatal class. Was rubbish last time. I had read so much that I felt like I knew more than was told. I think DH liked it though.

Actually will be very difficult for us both to go anyway as we don't have baby sitter on call!

Hi had the consultants appointment and scan and all is well.

A MW spoke to me first and we went through my notes from the last birth in detail (which took ages because I did go through the full monty of childbirth possibilities during the last labour incl forceps, epidural and finally ECS). I had a bit of a blub at the memory of it all and told her my worries and she was very good. She was surprised that no one had gone through it with me before.

My main questions was would I be able to have an epidural again after having such a bad reaction to it last time - apparently my low bp reaction is very common. Another question was, is my pelvis wide enough for the baby to come out (seeing as it didn't make it last time) - again she said it should be ok and that the babies position could be completely different and be able to fit through.

Then saw lovely Registrar who was very reassuring and he said they would keep an eye on me and plan for VBAC. Feel a lot better about the whole thing but will want more info and reassurance before birth.

Interestingly HappyTangerine, my consultant pointed out that I should have the Anti D injection which no one had mentioned before. I have A neg blood type. I think you just have it to make sure you don't form antibodies if the baby has a different blood type to you.

see here

Then had scan and everything is fine there. The scanner checked loads of stuff. We didn't find out the sex. DH thinks a girl and I think a boy.

Twinklegreen and smallone - thanks for the anti-d info. I was a bit when mw started ranting to person on phone!

SIL knows she is A+ but DH has no idea of his blood group - his mum thinks he must be A+ like her and SIL but that isn't always the case is it? My mum and sister are A+ but it looks like I follow my dad-he was O- as well. Anyway, I'm happy to have the anti-d and have resolved to stop listening to my mum(strangely therapeutic - she is STILL saying I'm O+

smallone good luck for tomorrow,I'll check back and see how you've got on.

Boob - hope exam went well

Off into Liverpool tomorrow to get my passport(rush job) and do some clothes shopping while I wait the 4 hours for it.Enjoy the sun everyone -are you all finding that there are loads more butterflies about? They keep dancing around my hedge and divebombing the blackbirds, v funny to watch.

HT I have a feeling my appt tomorrow will be just as fruitful! My friend had to have anti d, as she is rh-, two or three injections I think, one around now, one in labour and one post. It is only a problem if the babies dad is rh+, as the baby could inherit a + blood type from him. Then if your blood and the babys blood mixes at any point then it can spark off some sort of reaction leading to "blue baby" syndrome. The anti d stops it, but I've no idea how!

happytangerine I'm rhesus -ve and have had the anti-d with both mine, it's not really a big deal although it's always made my arm ache for a few days after. I have chosen not to have it in pregnancy this time (unless i have bleeding at any point)but will have it when i've given birth (if baby's blood group is +ve). Do you know what blood type you dp is? If he is also -ve there's no need to have it at all.

Good luck Boob!

I'm glad you are feeling a bit better Flame

I've been getting lots of BH as well-not too comfy!

Fidelma- at your boys tooth-I hope it goes well-dd would not be good in that situation!!

HT-glad it went well-hopefully after next time they'll peel the sticker off!!!!

Feel like I have loads of stuff to sort out before this baby arrives-but I don't know where to start

Glad to hear the weather is here til weds-shame it can't always be here

fidelma I feel so for your friend. It is so hard when we feel so helpless and just want to make things better for our friends. I second the others, do vent here if you need to.

princessmel I am another Asos.com fan, I got a similar blue jersey drape dress from there recently which is so very comfortable. I love it, and wear it with their 3/4 length leggings, which I heartily recommend.

What wonderful weather we have had, such a treat. I splurged on a new summer dress from French Connection and it made me feel really lovely. I justified the cost as I never spend any money on wine or going out any more! Plus it's not maternity (although forgiving) so I can wear it in summers to come.

HC I share your worry re: movement. Sometimes mine doesn’t move all day then – bam in the evening it’s wiggling around all over the place. I wish I could stop obsessing about it. I keep meaning to get a Doppler, but I’d never be off it so am restraining myself.

We went for a picnic yesterday then on to the pub afterwards, and it was really hard trying to make a warm half pint of weak shandy last for two hours while DH and mates got really pissed. I gave up in the end and left them to it. When DH got back – gone 11pm - he was absolutely plastered and insisted on going through girl names for the baby, so I had to humour him until he passed out.

hi just marking again, will catch up next weeks congratulations on all scan news, exam at 2pm and i'm having braxton hicks with the stress i think

Morning all

Saw consultant this morning. he didn't seem to really know why I was there as asthma fine and I was fit and well. BP 132/70-taken by a student on the 4th attempt who couldn't get the cuff on properly and with a midwife in the corner of the room on the phone saying "this patient is Rh- and we've not put her down for Anti-D". So I'm sitting there wondering what the hell anti-d is and why she is shouting on the phone - was expecting my bp to be skiy high after all that!

Apparently, my blood group wasn't tested at booking appt, it was only done when I had my 21wk scan on 17th May so they've only just picked up that I'm O neg. Anti D seems routine here, athough they gave me no info on it, just told me I had to have it.

Heard baby's heartbeat which was lovely . He's been wriggling a lot since Fiday, he must be exhausted. I find it quite ticklish as well which was a bit embarrasing when I laughed out loud in church yesterday

Consultant would be fine with me going back to midwife led care except there is a whacking great red "consultant" sticker on my notes and he couldn't understand why. So I'll see him again at 34 weeks, I live v close to the hospital anyway.

Has anyone here had Anti-D?

Sammysam - weather set to last until at least Wednesday

Flame-glad you feel better

Kleinemaus and Fidelma- hugs for your ds's

Halfmum-good luck for scan

HC-glad you heard hb. He'll probably start giving you whacking great kicks now to reassure you!

Big sunny wave to everyone

Morning ladies

This weather is fab.

fidelma-I too am very sorry about your friend. Glad you had a good day yesterday.

Flame-yay for feeling perkier and love the scan pics.

I only went to AN classes before DD1 was born and shan't bother again as I feel I won't learn anything from them IYKWIM.

Good luck for scans this week. My boy hardly moves now and my bump is very low down so perhaps he has moved. Freaked me out yesterday because despite me prodding him he just wouldn't kick so got the doppler out and heard the HB immediately. Phew!

Big wave!

HC
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Oh Fidelma, poor ds and his tooth, and you of course. My ds has just started having some trouble with one of his knees (I think it has to do with hypermobility) and I've been putting off going to the doctor as I know he'll kick up a huge fuss (you should see his hair - even if we try and cut bits he screams as if we're torturing him - I can't even contemplate taking him to the hairdressers') I'm such a coward. Good luck with it.

Talking of ds, we put him in his big boy bed on Saturday and it's worked a dream - so far. The first night he got out of bed in the middle of the night to get a book, but just took it back to bed with him - we never heard a thing (!)

My sister-in-law was asking me yesterday if I'm going to go to ante-natal classes this time round. I have moved house since the last time so it's a different hospital set-up, but I really can't be bothered. She went three times! Now I feel like maybe I should go. Is anyone else not having a first baby planning to go?

morning all - just a v quick one as am at work

good luck for your scan halfmum and to anyone else having one

enjoy the sun - will be back later
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Just popping in quickly-
Just wanted to say fidelma-make sure you offload on here-what a totally awful situation. Your poor friend-and her dc's

Congratulations for all the scans

Had a lovely weekend-very relaxing-although too many late nights so i'm feeling a bit bleugh now! Have been feeling much more sick since I've been back from hols-I think it might be that now soda water makes me feel sick what the hell can I drink now?!!!

This baby is very active (dd was too) most movements you can see from the outside as well now

Sun is out again today-must make the most of it as it has really improved my mood recently (although my patience and compassion has reduced a lot-poor dd and dp!)
Anyone know how long we have the sun for?

x x x

Thanks for all you support.

I have had a lovely weekend,my sad news made it all the more special.I was God Mum to my friends 4th today and I really enjoyed being in church (we are not church goers)but it was very spiritual.

The fantastic weather,what a joy.Long may it continue.

The children have enjoyed a summer highland fling,water fights,Aunties birthday,games outside oh and more water.Fun fun fun.

Poor DS1 aged 4 in aug has to have a tooth out tomorrow as it is dead!!His baby teeth have very little enamal.Hopefully we will be able to hang on to the rest of his teeth but this one needs to come out.We are going to try and take it out at the dentist with an injection !!!!!! He is very complient and I would rather that he didn't have an anasthetic.However if it is too much rest asure we will stop.

Glad that you are all enjoying the sun.Good luck with the scans this week.
I will let you know if we manage it.Sorry about the spelling.I can't spell for toffee!

FS - glad you are feeling better. The sun is excellent isn't it. None of my summer clothes fit though!

Princess Mel - Just been on Asos and bought a bunch of stuff. Lots of bargain maternity clothes on there. Your dress looks nice too. Thanks for the tip.

20 week scan tomorrow!!!!

Oh Fidelma

I should now have a scan pic on the profile. I am not sure if it is the sun, or the ADs kicking in quickly, but I am feeling just sick atm rather than sick and suicidal

Hello

Sorry about your friend Fidelma

HT great news about your holiday plans

Talking of energy levels, mine seemed to have picked up aswell. I am not so sleepy in the evenings and generally seem perkier. I do need to sit down frequently though.
I feel very heavy down below after standing for a short while. It's not so bad when walking.

I have had a very relaxing day. Spent the morning at home and did some hand washing which needed doing. My friend popped over too with her dd's.

Then I went to the salon with my twin and had a manicure and pedicure. We had some vouchers that we'd been given for our birthdays. I got a my toenails painted blue as the dress I am wearing tonight is blue.
We're going to a school friend's wedding reception. Lovely weather for it.
I'm really looking forward to it as we're going with friends and it's the first time we've been out with them since september. She got pregnant and was too poorly, then I got pregnant!!!

I got my dress from ASOS maternity in the sale. Bargain!
www.asos.com/Asos/Asos-Maternity-Jersey-Drape-Bandeau-Dress/Prod/pgeproduct.aspx?iid=505588&SearchQu ery=blue%20maternity&sh=0&pge=0&pgesize=20&sort=-1&clr=MidnightBlue

I am wearing it with low ish sparkly heels and am adding a similar sparkly broach to the dress. It has a drapey section on the front and it's quite annoying, so I'm pinning it in place.

Hope everyone's well

Fidelma - so sorry about your news - it must be awful for you as well as her.

I am so jealous of all your scans - I am only 18+5 and my scan is still weeks away (but 2 days before i get married so hopefully it will be good news!)

hope you are all enjoying the sunshine

How fantastic is this weather?! Since I started taking Spatone iron scahets, my energy levels have picked up massively and I spent all day yesterday revamping the garden.

Have just booked a 2 week holiday to Sorrento,leaving on Jun 15th. So excited, haven't had a holiday since our honeymoon in 2006. Now need to find big nork holiday wear. Also need to sort out travel insurance now-any recommendations?

I see the consultant at 9.15am Monday-bit nervous and don't know what to expect.

More news from dizzy sister. She dropped her room keys in a field in Poland(was taking the children on some kind of excursion. Hotel wanted to charge her 30eur for each so she went bck to the field to look for them in the rain. Found the keys in the field, got back and realised she'd lost her mobile phone in same field. I give up!

Great scan news from you
LittlePeaand Ballio - congrats on the girls!
Bella-yay, another boy for the team
Hackneybird and Flame - glad scans went well. Mine was a bit uncomfortable, sonographer pushed really hard to measure head and woke the baby up. He's not stopped wriggling since!

Fidelma-thats so sad about your friend, I'm so sorry

morning to all

*fidelam - that is so sad. what an awful thing ... if you need to off load then please do

We are all up and about so already been shopping - am now rushing around to get house sorted

have good days and enjoy this glorious sun

oh fidelma, that is so sad
please offload your thoughts on us.

when things like this happen it really does make you look around and be grateful for what you have.

Sorry not been on much as laptop has been playing up.Have read most news so great to catch up.Good news for all the scans and healthy babes.

I have good energy days and exhausted days.Just eatten a massive steak for tea yum yum.Hopefully it will supply some energy for the weekend.

I have had some very bad news about my 2 friends friend.(I have had dinner and coffee with this woman)Before you read this is a very rare and sad sittuation.She has just had her 4th child,all children now 7 and under and she has been told that her skin cancer has now spread to other parts of her body and she has only months to live.As you can imagen we are all in a complete fog.I had to tell her good friend today.I am supporting the friends while trying to protect myself.I have been a more tolerent mother since I have found out.It puts everything in prospective.Sorry to bring this sad news to you all,but it feels hard for me

On a happy note we have a lovely weekend ahead.Parties and summer fairs and a christening on Sunday.the weather looks great and I am going to enjoy all the people who are around me.

LittleMissBliss-if you send the form off before 25 weeks they will just post it back apparently. My MW gave me the form to fill out and will only stamp her bit when I see her at 28 weeks so it will be ages before I get my money. It will be a last minute pram. Your evenings sound like mine but I just think that it won't last forever.

Flame-glad the scan went OK but not so nice having a rushed one. Jobsworths!

HC
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Devils i really like the jane power twin and had a little push of one and its really smooth and light. I really do like them. Still umming and ahhing as i've read such great reviews about the nipper double.
I think they both fold up pretty much to the same size but the Jane looks easier to fold less stages. I need to wait for my maternity money to arrive so have three weeks to decide.

Has anyone sent off their form yet or even filled one in. Can it only be sent off at 25 weeks or do you receive the money at 25 weeks? I've got buggies on the brain and wont rest until i can get a new one, silly really as it wont be used for a good few months.

Bella congratulations on your boy!

Glad other scans went well. I think they must have re-trained the sonographers because mine was so thorough this time and talked me through everything. Where as last time it was mostly silent and she just did her checks, then told us all was well and the sex. Felt much more involved this time.

Is anyone else really stressed out/hormonal. I have no patience with dp and he says i'm miserable all the time. I don't mean to be but i'm so worn out running after ds during the day trying to keep him busy, happy, clean and fed that by the time he gets home and i've made tea and washed up, i'm exhausted and just want to veg on the sofa or Mumsnet. Not make chit chat. I hate being like this and feel sorry for him but have such little patience at the moment.

Yup, I namechange so often it is best to stick with Flame

Hi flame (do we still call you that?) Yay for your good scan. We don't know the sex either. What a pain about your sonographer. Ours was really friendly but it was so quick - only took 5 or 10 mins.

Well done for you too Bella.

Enjoy the nice weekend weather everyone.

xx

Back from scan - will catch up a bit later (hopefully) and sort out posting pics then.

Lovely clear scan, still just "a baby" as we didn't want to find out. The sonographer was the most miserable one we've ever had though. Very much there to do her job and that was it

Bella - fabulous pictures

my lovely MIL has just told me she has bought me a buggy for DC2 - the one which was on the Apprentice and which i had been lusting after

DS will be 3.6 so am hoping to sling the new baby and not have to buy a double pushchair

LMB i have a jane PT and when i take my son and niece out in it they still chat to each other and sing etc. it's really easy to get around shops and better the push one handed than my single buggy i got a second hand one off ebay for £100. bargain.

great news for all scans - also for scorpio

off to b'ton to visit friends tomorrow, ds staying with nanny. bliss. aibu to still go to bed at 9.30?! will have to save my coffee for the evening!

yay for the sunshine

Bella great about the scan, love the pictures! Cant believe how clear they are, the German ones here in Bielefeld arent so clear or good, but just glad to have them!

HC cant believe you fined! Its different if you just go off & leave your car, but not when you are spending money!! They will get the money any way they can, and they know you cant do a thing about it.

X-posts, Bella-what lovely news and your scan pics are fab. I too couldn't believe the close up of the 4 chambers of the heart. We had the lovliest of the sonographers who explained everything and it was so much better than with DD1 and DD2's scans.

HC
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Good luck with the scan PP-I like that pink dress so shame it is no good!

ruby-hope the SPD is not to bad. Had it with DD2 and not nice is it?

sammysam-hope your sis's SIL doesn't have to have bedrest as it will make her mat leave short the other side.

Sure I read that Scorpio was PG again.

Yesterday DH got a parking fine from B&Q for overstaying. Thing is, we went there on Saturday and browsed for ages as it was lovely and sunny and was looking at furniture and lots of things. Bought a few bits then went into the cafe for about an hour as the girls are slow at eating. Then we called into Halfords who share the same car park to try out bikes for DD1's 6th B'Day in July. So, we probably did exceed the 2 hours but we were in the vicinity and spent money. Have sent an appeal letter in today but have read on another thread about UKPC being bullies keen to send the bailiffs in. DH livid.

Must get some lunch so will check back later for scan news.

Big wave!

HC
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22+3

Its a BOY!!! Scan was great the woman took quite a while to look as baby was in an akward position but you could clearly see its a boy,she didn`t need to tell just let us look.Looking at the heart was amazing you could clearly see all the chambers and the fluid going in and out from them.Never had such a detailed scan before or at least they didn`t take so long so couldn`t see much.

Flame how was your scan?

Has anyone heard from Jeml she didn`t come back after her scan or did I just miss it?

idreamofbeanie mine is a wriggler too and he`s got his legs just above bladder so feel kicks same place as you completely normal.Just hope he will turn head down before the birth.
22 weeks today
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smallone - that is so exciting and scary, I only have 17 weeks left until I'm a mum!

Flame - hope you have a fab scan, are you finding out the sex? It's crap about the dress, I"m a DD cup and I always have that problem.

Ruby - for SPD, take it easy today and enjoy the sunshine.

LMB - my little one is a real wriggler too. The kicks are getting stronger too, I keep jumping when I get an unexpected kick. The movements are still really low down - I feel it most just about the level of my knicker line - is that normal? It's just strange as my bump is def expanding much higher than that.

hellooo ruby !! so excited.. can';t wait to see you in a few weeks.. do you love my new name? have been looking out for peppa pig things for DN.

ooooooooooooooh Flame - let us know how it goes

TBH i find mothercare sizing awful - their bras are terrible IME ... so skimpy and no support

i have about 18.5 weeks to go <<SCREAM>>

Scan this afternoon (TIs Flame)

I have forgotten everything I have just read.

Annoyed with Mothercare. Tried on this dress yesterday (but put the bow at the back), looked lovely apart from it isn't long enough in the nork area so the line that is meant to be under them came about 2/3 down Why can't they make things for bigger norks?

Smallone did you have to say that! It brings it home that we really dont have that long to go when you think about it. But it did make me think of everyone who started out on this thread, and are no-longer with us, i wonder how they are getting on, or if anyone ended up pregnant again.

LMB - my friend who has a double recommended checking the width of the pushchair against the width of a wheelchair. That way you should be able to fit through most doorways as they now have to comply with wheelchair access. Also I used to work in a card shop and the sidebyside always did better than the one in front of the other, unless you're going for the one where the smaller baby is sort of underneath the toddler.

Great scan news, who's left now? Only 20 (or less) weeks and we'll see our babies in person!

fab scan news ladies! I reckon all the shy ones are boys

this weather is glorious but i do find it draining

spent ages last night doing housework - jumped over a step to get to the phone and my pelvis DID NOT like that - SPD definitely starting to grumble

hope everyone has lovely days -

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Morning all,

Glad to hear of more great scan news, and two more girls!

My little boy is such a little wriggler, always on the move it's very odd, can't remember this much constant movement with ds.

decided to get double buggy now so on the hunt for a Jane power twin or a nipper double 360. The Nipper has got lots of really positive reviews and is ment to be really light weight and easy to push. But the Jane is slimmer. Would quite like a side by side so the kids can chat to one another, but just not sure about the width.

breakfast time better be off.

Hi ladies,

FYI taking a toddler to a zoo at 20 weeks pg on a really hot day is not a good idea. Totally worn myself out. Had to have a nap!!!!

Mrs Kitty - annoyed for you at colleague re weight thing. People just seem to be obsessed with other peoples bodies. One of my colleagues was saying the other day how he didn't recognise a certain lady as she had put so much weight on. Er hello, she is pg with twins AND she looks absolutely fine, just has a big bump. Leave the poor girl alone!

Smallone - will let you know what goes on re consultant. I am going to write a list to talk about but its a bit negative towards the hospital staff as they were totally rubbish e.g. will there be more midwives to deal with all the women in labour? possibly not appropriate.

Beanie - I think this is a lesson to us all over how much attention the chaps are paying to our chests i.e. constant observation.

Princess - wierd dream, probably the hormones. I have also had low tolerance today of my DS and his cousins at the zoo, you can imagine the state of the three of them when they had got a bit tired and all wanted a balloon/ice cream etc. Arrrgh

Just a quick catch up!

Congrats on all the scans and all the girls! There must be more than boys again! Maybe all the unknowns are boys to make up for it!

Had a lovely busy day at the park-but am feeling it now. Feel very tired and achey and rubbish now. Just heard that my sis's sil (due july) ended up in hospital overnight as they are worried her pelvis isn't coping with the baby. This might mean bed rest for the rest of the pg. she was really hoping to work for much longer to have more maternity leave with the baby. Am quite shocked as I've just spent a week on holiday with her and she seemed fine-she must've hidden it well. Her mum had the same with one of her 4.

Anyway-i'm rambling-sorry!

Have to call dp in from doing the mini so we can look into trying to build a conservatory to give us more room......

Hello everyone,

Can't recall everyone's individual posts, sorry !

2 more girls, woohoo!

On the subject of boobs, mine are huge!! They are very noticable! I wish they were back to how they were. I want small perky ones Mine are huge, heavy, veiny, mammories.

Great news about the scans Mine is a week today.

I had some really strange dreams last night. I dreamt that at the scan, the pictures were like photographs, rather than normal scan pictures, and they showed that we had been having twins. But they were baby snowmen, complete with sticks for mouths.
But they horrible part was that the girl twin had died, the boy snowman was ok. He was slightly larger and had rosy cheeks.

I can only assume that this is because I was thinking about the scan and that I am thinking this will be a boy. (family is full
of boys)

Earlier when I was reading stories to the dc's I felt my first definate kick! It really made me jump and I shreiked! It felt like I'd been prodded but from the inside out!! Very exciting and funny
I wish the movements would become regular.

The dc's and I have been swimming in my friends gorgeous pool today. It was lovely, especially after I'd had a bit of a grumpy morning. The children have had had friends over all week and the playroom and bedrooms were totally trashed. I was getting really stressed and going on about how they have no respect for their toys etc etc. My tollerence levels are quite low atm!!

Hope you're all ok

Just checking in to say hello and report another scan this morning. We didn't want to know the sex.

I enjoyed the scan, although it was a bit uncomfy as she was pressing quite hard. So lovely to be able see him/her and be reassured that everything is in it's right place.

Well done to you too littlepea!

Hello again ballio.

xx

ballio-so pleased for you.

HC
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Hi all, ive not been on here for AGES, partly because my internet only works when it feels like it.....which isnt very often

Had my scan today....i having a GIRL which is fab as i have a DS, feel a bit bad for him cause he wanted a boy but he will get used to it!!

How lovely littlepea-excellent news.

Just waiting for Willmouses scan at 4-30pm. <drums fingers>

HC
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Hey, just got back from my scan. The doctor took ages and kept leaving the room! Turns out someone was in trouble in the delivery room , but he didnt know how to tell us in English, so he kept getting up & leaving! No sign of downs, and he said it was a very healthy but very big baby girl!!!! ...I thought it was a boy, and i kind of was wanting a boy too , but a big healthy baby girl is great

If only we knew it was given away by our boobs maybe we wouldn't waste all that money on pregnancy tests!

HC lol at the rubber dress!

MrsKitty at what has been said.

Leaving things in places reminds me of an ex colleague who left a rubber dress in Wilkos and had to ring and ask if it was handed in. oh the of it.

Any scans today?

Big wave to all.

HC
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BTW one of the girls told me what he had said - she said she hoped it wouldn't make me uncomfortable but it was so funny and unexpected she had to share!

Morning,

all these stories reminded me that I told most people at work that I was pregnant at 12 weeks but obviously a few people didn't find out. A couple of girls from my office were talking about it at lunch and one of the guys from the office - who is very quiet and lovely - said "oh, I didn't realise she was pregnant but that explains why her breasts have gotten so much bigger recently" . He is the last guy I would have expected to notice or comment. I don't wear tight tops so I didn't think anyone would have noticed.

mrskitty more to the point, who told you this was said? You didn't need to know that did you? If someone told your ds's keyworker you knew she was pg coz her boobs were enormous I'm sure she'd be horrified! But don't worry, we won't talk!

HMHB I've got my consultant appt on tues re emcs and high bmi, so let me know how you get on. Can't see the point re emcs, yes I had a previous cs and I might be at risk of complications in labour, but what can they tell me at 21 weeks? Unless they have a crystal ball! I guess we'll find out next week.

Morning all.

MissKitty he sounds like an arsehole! We had a guy over to do some work, hes been here lots before and he said to me BEFORE I was pregnant "are you pregnant" I said "NO" and instead of being embarrassed and leaving it, he went on to say "really cos it looks like youre in your first trimester"
HT I went to an Erotica exhibition last year (friend had free tickets, dont ask) anyway I bought a beautiful black satin corset, classy not cheap. I left it on a bench and as my train pulled away all I could do was wave goodbye to it, so gutted!

HappyTangerine Glad your sis got her bag back - not so glad that you missed out on your sneaky nap though! To be honest I'm more surprised that you got anywhere with the British Transport Police than the fact that someone had handed it in! I've worked with them in previous roles and haven't had the greatest experiences Perhaps that's just round here though...

Idreamofbeanie Congratulations on the house move...Roll on internet access!

halfmumhalfbiscuit LOL at the massive chest! My DS's key worker at nursery told me recently that she's pregnant and I though to myself "I knew it - I thought her boobs had gotten huge!" ...Thankfully managed to restrain myself from making statement out loud

Glad to hear everyone's been having such lovely (and exotic) holidays - keep them coming - I'm living vicariously though you lot!

Found out earlier that a {ahem} colleague (also known as complete t0sser) said to another colleague today "I didn't know MrsKitty was pregnant until she told me last week - I thought she was just putting on more weight" ...Aside from the fact that I told him 8 weeks ago when I also told everyone else - what a bloody cheek!

Anyhoo...rant over!

Hope everyone's keeping well

Hi all

great to catch up with lovely holidays, good scan news and sorry to hear about back aches, MS and troublesome SIL

on the consultant front, I saw mine (back problems) 2 weeks ago. they were runing 1.5 hours late and by the time I got in there, I was in so much pain i promptly burst into tears but she couldnt have been nicer. I have been refered to physio, orthopedic consultant and anaethetist and will see consultant again after my 20 week scan so my advice is, take plenty to read, prepare for a long wait but dont worry.

off to sleep now

Evening.

Hope you are all feeling well.

Bit tired today after work and everyone now staring at my massive chest (previously not massive at all).

My scan is on Monday as is meeting with consultant re ECS last time. Any advice for people who have met consultants well received.

Hi all,

I moved house at the weekend and my phone line hasn't been connected yet so I'm restricted to MNing at work. It's lovely to have more space though.

I am soooo of everyone having lovely hols. We really can't afford to get away this year, especially as DP is still looking for a new job, but it seems ages since we last had a holiday. Camping in Cornwall was fun but it just isn't the same.

Treats - that sounds stressful but fun. Good luck for your performances and for your exam!

HT - your sister was sooo lucky! I am really disorganised and dread doing something similar. Sounds like you had a lovely bank hol weekend.

Flame - sorry you are still suffering with ms .

Hi to everyone else <waves>.

Flame-lovely to hear from you and pleased you have your AD's to help you along but bleugh at the MS.

Treats-are you an opera singer then? How exciting! Good luck with your exam.

HappyTangerine-thank goodness your sis got her rucksack back intact. Think I would have passed out with worry.

Good luck for tomorrows scans. Big wave to all!

HC
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Just putting my head round the door to say hi. Having a really busy week - I'm a member of an opera company and it's our annual production this week and I have one of the main parts. Was a bit anxious that I shouldn't have signed up for it, but have been so fortunate not to suffer any pregnancy side effects, that it really hasn't been a problem. Am wearing some special pregnancy pants under my costume so that the baby doesn't suffer much from his foolish mother's prancing about. Haven't particularly felt him more than normal, so hopefully it's not affecting him.

I also have an accountancy exam in two weeks. I'm planning on winding down for some quiet pregnancy time after that.......

Glad to hear that people are enjoying holidays. for Flame that you're still feeling sickness though.

Arf, just typed loads and lost it.

Thanks for the CP info.

HT - nice to know that the goodies still outnumber the badies eh?

Hi all, hope you had a nice bank holiday. Very busy here with family children's parties (great fun ), seeing the Zutons live in Liverpool (they were brilliant)and my mad gardening fit on Sunday. Kind of overdid it though and was sobbing on the floor on Sun afternoon because my back was hurting so much. That'll teach me! Raining today so I'm going to chill out.

No change in appetite here apart from the endless craving for ice. I'm waiting for my energy levels to kick in, I feel even more tired and dizzy these past 2 weeks and feel my heart racing a lot, v odd.

Was rudely awaken from a sneaky nap on Sat afternoon by a panicky sister. She was in London, on her way to catch a flight abroad to do a weeks teaching. She'd sat down in Paddington station and when she got up and got on the cirle line, she realised her rucksack was missing. She'd forgotten to pick it up and it contained her passport, laptop, camera, full details of her teaching & flight itenary. I liased with British Transport Police as she made her way back there from Victoria. To our amazement, the rucksack had been handed in almost immediately and everything was still there. Can you beleieve how lucky she was? DH and I are still gobsmacked.

hackneybird - good luck for your scan

Sammysam and princessmel, welcome back, glad you had great holidays

KM, lal & anyone I've missed- Loving all the name suggestions

Sugarkane-sisterly jealousy eh? My sis and I are guilty of it and the competitive thing, despite the 11yr age gap. Try not to let hr comments get to you(easier said than done, I know)

Treats - not sure if I got a chance to say this last week, but so glad the scan went well.

theboob good luck with the revision and exam

flame for the MS, hope it goes away again pronto

lal boys names do seem harder don't they? We have plenty of options for girls, but none for a boy. Luca is nice.

flame I really feel for you. I'm struggling with fatigue, but that is nothing compared with terrible sickness. *hugs to you*.

Hey everyone, sorry i havent been on, Euro Disney was great. Did manage to be sick everywhere in the middle of the park lol, never seen so many people run so fast in my life! The baby has been moving arround so much, its been making me sick & feeling really tired again. Have my scan tomorrow, so hope we will find out the sex. Thinking about Dexter for a boy, Faith for a girl, good to know after tomorrow we can give it a name!

Yup in this country

Hi KleinNaus, my cousin (utterly English)called their second son Magnus - like it. Love Astrid (don't know any though).
Can't wait for our vacation - three weeks this year - hurrah! Got a few weeks to go still though......plod...plod...
Got my scan next week though, so the excirement of that kind of breaks it up a bit.

Flame - just out of curiosity are the Astrid and Magnus you know in this country? I'm not sure if they're too 'Scandi' for here.

Scrolling back as far as Monday morning to catch up and reply (am aware I am still a complete flake with this thread )

Very of warm holidays, but prob not Cyprus - found the heat too thick (if that makes sense) when I went there pregnant with DS.

I have silly tan lines. Turns out the hot milk bra gives a hell of a cleavage... so when I am in a normal bra I now have a big white void where I got tanned on Saturday in the other bra

No appetite increase here, dunno how much of that is due to me still not holding much down though Had a full 6 days with no sick last week then it all came back yesterday just in time to make yoga impossible

Kleine - I know someone with an Astrid and a Magnus

LMB - ain't perfect if the place is wrong

Keine - I would have kept the cot as long as humanly possible. Size-wise DS would still fit in one now, but the little git learnt to climb insanely early and was escaping by 15 months I think. We still tried to keep him in it for a while, but it was looking more dangerous so gave up. Poor little thing was small enough to fit on his pillow in the big bed!

Will be keeping our names quiet for a good while yet, what with us having not the teeniest tiniest idea of any for either sex

I like Luca though.

Went to Dr today and now have antidepressants. Feel soooooooo much happier at the concept of an end in sight without having to wait another 20 weeks.

afternoon allxxx haven't been in in a while with one thing and another - so hello!

To keep the holiday feeling going - we're just back from a long weekend in Eurodisney - it was fantastic! DD had a great time - we've promised her we can go back when her DB or DS is her age...

Its lovely to hear about names - in RL we're not sharing any of our suggestions. So far we're thinking of Elena for a girl and Luca for a boy - not so keen on Luca. Why are boys names so hard????

Maybe try dropping the after lunch bottle first, or the one he's least fussed about?

mel he has a bottle after breakfast and lunch and one after his bath. i just wonder whether it'll be harder to get rid of it once the baby is here iykwim. it's so hard to know isn't it?

Morning

Nice names I am keeping mine quite for a bit longer. Not sure why. Just am!
We haven't made any final decisions, just have loads that we like.

ds went in a big boy bed just before dd came, so he was just past 2 years. If she hadn't needed the cot I would have kept him there longer. Dd was nearly 3 I think. They are both in mid size beds now. We'll get them bunkbeds in the summer.

Devils, does he wake in the night asking for more milk? If not there's no rush to lose it yet is there!? Especially if he's just changed beds etc. Just my opinion. I am fairly relaxed about comforters. If he was asking for more milk all night, that would be a different story. Ds had a dummy (only at night) and a grobag till after he was 3. I just kept saying 'one day you'll be too big for these' etc. And one day he said 'I don't need my dummy tonight' and likewise with the grobag.

Good luck with exmas and scans .xx

morning everyone.

ds was great last night, h woke at 3 in the morning and cried for me. i went in and found his cat comforter toy and he went back to sleep. this morning he woke at 5.50 and got out of bed and called from the stairgate so i'm please. not looking forward to putting him to bed when he doesn't want to go (which happens once every few weeks). one day at a time.

next on my list, get rid of his bottle . he only has milk in it but i suppose it's time for it to go.
oh and don't forget potty training in the summer hols! gah. all change, next stop big boysville.

i can't believe he is two next month

i got on the scales this morning and i have put on 16 lbs. AAAHHHHHHH. so many bbqs.

thank god it's half term, have dh at home atm so slept in til 8.30 this morning. now dh has gone back to bed, we may sleep in shifts all day!

sugarkane my sis can be a little jealous sometimes too. not in a horrible way but she said to me the other day that she's arranging her holiday the week after my due date which i was surprised at. it's the typical thing she always does though. she arranged (actually chose) to have her 2nd baby by cs on my 21st birthday, got accidently pg when i got pg 1st time and decided to move house when we bought our first house. i don't think it's a conscious thing though. i do love her to bits but it can be hard sometimes not to feel like she's trying to steal my thunder iykwim. i realise i have made myself sound completely self-centred here!

theboob good luck with your exam.

sugar just ignore your sister, my parents have said similar things about me to my sister.You`ll be fine with 2.I like Alana for a girl.There`s so many nice girls and boys names on here.Dp will only have Nathaniel for a boy he doesn`t seem to like anything else.

I only put DD in proper bed after her third birthday and she was ready then as had no problems with her.She goes to sleep all by herself now been waiting 3 years for that,but still comes in my bed during the night.

Got my scan on Friday finally,seems to have been ages since last one.Baby seems to be moving up a bit and kicking me at sides too.will be interessting to see where its lying on Fri.

Had lovely weekend went to seaside got burnt a bit,specially my feet they are so painful,always forget suncream on there.Glade some of you had lovely holidays lucky you haven`t been away for years we just go to Germany every year to see my family.hoping to go Malta next year DP`s relatives are there.

Its raining today so just staying home chilling out.
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21+4

morning all

a really wet day - traffic was awful getting to work in spite of it being bank holiday

theboob - good luck for your exam

KM - love those names

littlemiss - good luck with the house hunting. When you find the right one you will know but it can be frustrating

devils - did your DS stay in bed?

Hi to everyone else and hope you all have good days

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Good luck theboob-hope all goes well.

SugarKane-jealousy is a terrible thing and has long drawn out consequences. Am to admit when I was much younger and my bro got married I really didn't take to my SIL and then when they announced their 1st pregnancy I was horrible about it. Refused to be called Auntie. They never asked me to be godmother. Fast forward to when I had DD1 my bro rang up to congratulate me and I said ooh, it's Uncle S and he very kindly reminded me of what I said and refuses to be Uncle and Auntie. I am still cut up about it to this day. I hope things work out with sis or everyone will be hurt. However, it is this SIL who was nasty about me wanting a 3rd and especially at my age so they have probably got the own back a tad.

hackney-good luck for your scan. As it is raining today I should be able to sit down a bit more. If the pain is bad now I dread to think what it will be like in another couple of months. Suffered with SPD last time so perhaps it is the start of it again.

DevilsAdvocaat-how did DS get on in his big bed?

Have a lovely day girls.

HC
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22 weeks! (18 to go <eek>)

sugar i'm at your sister, although my friend said similar things when i was TTC about how i would not cope etc, until i pointed out that it was the 23rd dec, and we were running around doing her xmas shopping for her only child , and mine was finished , wraped and food shopping done for my 3 she soon changed her tune, but it did hurt so think your doing well to keep your cool

HC also weeing all the time, hope your out of pain soon, i seem to get a terrible stich whenever i walk
we put ds2 in a bed a few weeks ago and it seems to have gone well, i wanted him well out of his cot to avoid resentment at the baby for stealing his bed

have had a lovely weekend but its time for my head in the books as my human physiology exam is on the 1st june , so i will be missing until the 2nd
good luck with all scans this week x

Sugar- at your sister! What a nasty thing to say! Best to just ignore-but very hard to do! DD has self weaned as well-a couple of months ago-was kind of what I was hoping to happen but was still very weird!

Kleine-I'm glad to hear we're not the only lazy ones!!! DD will be 3 in July and is still in her cot bed.....with the sides on! Partly because of the getting out thing and partly because we're not sure where the bed end of it is in the loft We were going to buy a single bed for her a few at Christmas but then didn't which was very lucky as we wouldn't be able to fit that and the cotbed in her room! I think we'll just buy another junior bed and put her into that and leave the cotbed as it is ready for the baby!

I'm still so tired and there is so much to do! Very of peaches going away for 2 weeks-a week is never long enough!

Good luck for any scans this week! Have a great day ladies x

sugar a bit at your sister, that's so mean of her! You're being very gracious about it, if that was me I'd be really cross and brewing up a right grudge.

I love the names Isla and Iona for girls. I like your tactic of bugging your DH unti,l you get your way - I think I might do that. I did that when we were trying to decide where to get married and I totally got my way. .

HC I did loads if gardening this weekend too. I'm not very good at it though, I neglect it all winter then get all keen as soon as the sun comes out. You sound like you're in a lot of pain though, I hope you can do something for it. I have to wee a lot too. It is very dull.

My scan is on Thursday morning! 'Ticks off days'. We're not going to find out what it is.

Devils, good luck with the big boy bed. Let us know how it goes as I'm waiting for a bed to be delivered for ds. He's almost three, but I've been putting it off because I'm lazy and don't want to have to be running upstairs every five minutes to get him back into bed!

Hi everyone good to hear you've all enjoying the weather, have been for my scan today baby if great, but was a little bugger an wouldnt show a few things so have to go back in 2 weeks (yaaaay extra scan).

Im also eating everything in sight, even got to the stage of sending DP out for maltesers as I saw someone had became a fan of them on facebook and I couldnt get them out of my head.

Has been an up and down week for me really, DD turned one which is great but then she went and self weaned off breastmilk. Think it was a mixture of reduced supply with being preg and also her being too busy to ask, although this is great as I was actualyy planning on weaning her after my holiday next week now I kind of feel like im missing out on something.

Then I was speaking to my sister this week and she said a few nasty things bout how I havent got a clue what being a mom is as Isla has only just turned one, also adding that I wouldnt cope with two etc etc. Now I know I should just ignore her as she is obviously jealous her two sisters are expecting when her H wont have anymore kids but was having a bit of a low day I think. Families who'd have them??

On a lighter note there are some great names on here, I had thought of Iona myself as I love the name but its a bit cliche to have an Isla and Iona where I live. I have now set my heart on Riley for a boy and Alana for a girl, all I need to do now is talk DP into them. He said he wont talk names until im 7 months, not that that makes a difference as I will just do as last time and bug him so much before then that he tells me I can pick any name I want.

Hope that all makes sense have typed in a bit of a hurry sorry.

Can't believe this has dropped off my active threads. Have been busy in the garden due to my nesting instinct cutting in.

Am of all the hols you've all had. Haven't been abroad since 2002 and am desperate for the sun and the atmosphere of the Med.

DD1 has just had Chicken Pox but as I have had it there was nothing to worry about. It is only a problem if you haven't had it and catch it during pregnancy.

Struggling to sleep at night as my pelvis feels like it will collapse when I move and is quite painful. Also need to wee nearly every hour.

Any scans this week?

Big wave!

HC
x

LMB no Point in Picking the Perfect house if it's Position is not Perfect

kleinmaus cool names. i love astrid.

i just put my big boy into a proper bed. his cot is now in the nursery. i cried once i shut the door i blame the hormones. he looks so tiny in it, but he's growing up. haven't heard a peep from him yet so hoping that he'll stay in bed. fingers crossed.

Hello all hope youb all had a glorious bank holiday weekend, what lovely weather.

Sammy and princessmel very of your holidays glad you and the dc's had a lovely time. PMel you look lovely in your pictures!

Glad to hear more scans have gone well and we have some more surprises to look forward too in October.

I'm really hungry at the moment also, def have a sweet cravings and a craving for extra strong mints (had the same with ds). Still tired allot of the time and waiting to start G-L-O-W-I-N-G!

We went to see a house today but a bit disappointing, the long garden was split level so couldn't leave ds to play as the stairs would have been too steep. Also the drive was directly on a mini round-about. There always seems to be a catch when we go and view these paper perfect properties, in person..... think i went a little overboard on the alliteration there ....

well better go and put my feet up all this sun has left me exhausted.

Hello.....I've added some pictures to my profile from the holiday. You can't really see the bump very well in them though.

I am not feeling too hungry at the moment and because of that am trying to eat a bit better. I was eating so much in the beginning!

I am also not buying anything yet. It seems so early. Plus we have so much stuff from the other dc's.
I don't even think we need anything apart from nappies.

My friend has lent us a crib, not sure if it rocks or not!!

Hi all. What beautiful weather!!!
All of the holidays sound perfect, we are going away next Monday for 2 weeks to Gran Canaria, wanted somewhere with guaranteed sun .
Chicken Pox is more worrying at the begining and end of pregnancy I believe.

Im hungry a lot and have the attitude of "cant drink etc so Im not denying myself sweets, crisps, biscuits......." Thats going to blow up in my face!
Ive put on about 7lbs at 18 weeks but I was about a stone over my happy weight to begin with so I look bigger already plus my tummy is huge but a bit wobbly again!
Well off to eat......

I was just about to post about food too. I can't stop eating today, in particular biscuits. Not good. princess and Sam's holidays sound great. I'm off to Orkney in a couple of weeks, not quite the same...

Had my scan last week. All fine thankfully. Don't know the sex, despite dh asking . They won't tell you here. Names-wise thinking of Astrid or Ingrid for a girl and Evan or Magnus for a boy. We have a feeling it might be a boy, although dh has now confessed a wish for a girl. I don't really mind, except that I'm keener on my girls names than my boys ones.

Nice to see you back princess and sam, glad you had a good time. Am v. envious. We have cancelled our trip to Italy in order to save money.

Devil yes I have started eating a lot more all of a sudden, and I have suddenly 'bloomed'. I have finally started to look properly pregnant. I am trying v. hard to snack on fruit and yogurts etc. as I really don't want to pile on excessive weight. Although I had TWO cornettos yesterday. .

oi you lot with your fancy holiday news! we actually don't want to hear where you've been swanning off to ok?! <jealous>

has anyone else noticed a big increase in appetite around the 20 week mark? i am starving. i actually can't believe how pg i look today as well. i seem to have woken up twice the lady that i was when i went to bed last night.

halfway through, woo hoo!

must go an eat something (again).

Whoops!

Princessmel-just copy and paste and add yourself in-can't miss you off the list !

Have a great day everyone!

Hi all

Got back from Cyprus late last night-am knackered! Had a fantastic time-as did dd! They were having a heat wave-was in the early 30's every day! Didn't seem as hot as there was a lovely breeze! DD swam all day every day-not sure how she'll cope with the boredom of being back home! She had 9 women paying her constant attention whilst being outside and in the pool/sea-she was a very very happy bunny!
Glad to be back to see dp but wish we were still there!
Tis raining here this morning -I hope it cheers up soon!

Have tried to catch up on the thread! My prediction was correct-it was a week of boys! Looks quite even now! Congratulations on all the scans!

Baby has become very good at reassuring me-whenever I think I haven't felt anything for a while there is a load of movement! Tis VERY active at the moment-may be liking the rain!

Can't believe the amount of washing and stuff I need to sort out!

I'm in the leaving buying stuff for a while camp-don't really need to buy much but do at some point need to get all dd's stuff down and sort it through and wash it-will leave that for a while! Might get my sis in to help-she likes organising things!!!!

I hope everyone is well x x x

Hi all

Got back from Cyprus late last night-am knackered! Had a fantastic time-as did dd! They were having a heat wave-was in the early 30's every day! Didn't seem as hot as there was a lovely breeze! DD swam all day every day-not sure how she'll cope with the boredom of being back home! She had 9 women paying her constant attention whilst being outside and in the pool/sea-she was a very very happy bunny!
Glad to be back to see dp but wish we were still there!
Tis raining here this morning -I hope it cheers up soon!

Have tried to catch up on the thread! My prediction was correct-it was a week of boys! Looks quite even now! Congratulations on all the scans!

Baby has become very good at reassuring me-whenever I think I haven't felt anything for a while there is a load of movement! Tis VERY active at the moment-may be liking the rain!

Can't believe the amount of washing and stuff I need to sort out!

I'm in the leaving buying stuff for a while camp-don't really need to buy much but do at some point need to get all dd's stuff down and sort it through and wash it-will leave that for a while! Might get my sis in to help-she likes organising things!!!!

I hope everyone is well x x x

ooh mel am of your hols - sounds like great fun

yesterday was so hot - spent the day outdoors which was nice - cracked open the factor 50 ...

hope everyone is doing ok in the heat - today is a lot cooler

x

Oh and my scan date is June 4th

I am not on the list of important dates sob

Hi everyone
Got back from Mallorca yesterday so haven't read all the posts yet. I will catch up after this.

We went with dh's family (15 of us in total) and stayed in a villa. It was lovely but the whole of them can be very loud altogether!

We were so lucky and had fantastic weather. It was late 20's every day. I was worried as it's not high season yet.
Kids had an amazing time and were in the pool and sea loads I did lots of lying down and reading and taking photos. I'll put some on my profile.

Heard the HB the morning we left England and then again this morning when we got home. Was a relief to hear it again. I know I had no need to worry but I was a bit worried about the flight and the sun etc.

I hope everyone's ok.

hi all

glorious weekend so far - managed a BBQ yesterday and lots of time outside

we are off to a posho garden centre later whcih has a mini railway and loads of animals so DS will love it

smallone - have no idea re CP but have a feeling you may be right, You can always call NHS Direct

anyone elses toddler a terror for kicking ATM?? DS caught me right in the tummy today - not sure what it is but he is 90% angel and 10% devil ...

cloud not cload!

Morning all, well its a gorgeous day here, thankyou MrsKitty! Woke up to a bright blue sky with one tiny white fluffy cload in the middle. Lovely! DH is working today but off sun, mon, tue, so hopefully we'll get to do something productive this weekend!

I'm not craving anything yet, in fact I'm still struggling to find anything I want to eat! Jordans strawberry crisp is the only cereal I can tolerate and I have to eat that before I've woken up properly and have time to think about it! Other than than, I've cooked tea a few times this week and then not eaten it myself! Still, I've got plenty of reserves to sustain baby! I think I've discovered why a bit of a fuss has been made of my weight this time, when I was having my scan there was a poster at the hosp about BMI in pregnancy and how certain hospitals were monitoring pg women this year to see their BMI vs the outcomes of their pregnancy.

Glad its not just me with the MIL thing, I don't know what it is, she's perfectly capable of looking after dd, its just that my parenting style is the same as my mums. And my mum knows when to make herself scarce!

Does anyone know anything about chicken pox? Friends DS has it and was wondering if its worth taking DD round to catch it. I've definitely had it myself and seem to remember its only a prob in pregnancy at the beginning and the end.

Meant to say 25 wk check-up for 15th JUNE. One day,I will post on this thread without making typos...

MrsKitty and DevilsAdvocaat - congrats on the scans!

MeHimCatBob- it was me who was asking about pins and needles in the arm. Thanks for the tip, I'll make it my mission to find that splint this weekend.

rubyslippers - I'm craving ice, all the time.

Had lovely afternoon shopping with mother in law, sister in law and my neice. Shattered now tho! My 25 wk check-up has been booked for the 15th Jan. Tis our mission to find a new sofa and somewhere to go on holiday this weekend, we're hoping to go mid June for 2 weeks. Sorrento/Amalfi is winning so far, if we can get a good last minute deal.

Echoing hackneybird's best wishes for the bank holiday weekend, hope we all get some decent weather!

Have a nice bank holiday weekend everyone. x

LOL @ "we're having a baby"

so pleased it is all ok

thanks ruby i'm back now!

scan went well although little monkey was lying on it's front so she had to scan the heart through the spine which took a while but was also quite painful as she really pushed the thing into me to get the right angle. however, all for a good cause. we're having a baby apparently we didn't find out the sex! first time dh has seen this little one on tv so was nice to do that together.

i am hungry a lot of the time but don't fancy anything i can think of to eat. not really thinking about choc or cakes like i did with ds. mostly wanting toast or sandwiches. mmm. i may have a pre-dinner snack!

i am so hormonal. keep getting really annoyed with people and really snappy. also finding it hard to let things go in my head. it's like permenant pmt. hopefully i'll get it in check soon.

just checking in to see Devils scan news

HC glad your DD is ok

anyone else's cravings kicking in? I have such a sweet tooth at the moment and i can eat for Britain - my appetite is through the roof

Morning ladies

MrsKitty-good news about your scan. Shame it was rushed though, they should be longer than that.

rubyslippers-DD is fine today but big scabs on her cheek and under her nose. Hope DS is OK.

DevilsAdvocaat-good luck for today. I watched the program last night and was amazed at the 21 week bit as I am 21 weeks so can't believe my boy looks like that. DH worked with a lad whose girlfriend had TTTS but she sadly lost one after an emerg C-Section and they scanned her every week but didn't operate.

Lol-when I was expecting DD1 my MIL mentioned to DH about being at the birth. Luckily he was in agreement with me. Noooooooooooooooooooo! Half expected her to barge in though.

We had horrendous hailstones yesterday and today doesn't look much better so cleaning inside methinks.

Big wave!

HC
x

21+3

yay for all the scans and the shy babies LOL!

we were getting quite even with the boys and girls ...

so, lovely weekend beckons - lots of time in the garden i think

HC - how is your DD today? Must have been a day for accidents as DS fell off the see saw at nursery and has a big bruise/lump on his forehead

lovely days to all

x

morning everyone

good scan news everyone. sorry to hear of your Anterior placenta MrsKitty, hopefully it'll move. what happens if it doesn't?

i have all unisex stuff from ds too but having looked through it, a lot of the clothes won't be suitable for an october baby. ds was june. babygros and vests are fine but most of te little outfits are sort sleeves and legs. we'll see though as i may be able to get some long sleeved vests to go underneath.

knitting! yes i knew i was forgetting something! will investigate. although i'm hesitant to start another project as i am currently making a rug for the newbie but it's taking ages. mind you, the cross stitch i did for ds wasn't finished and framed beofre he was 1 so i suppose it doesn't matter really!

i have my scan today, can't wait. had a really cool dream last night that i had a window in my stomach which i could see the baby through. it had a vest and hat on lol. i think it was after watching that program 'emergency in the womb'. did anyone see it? about identical twins who share a blood supply. one twin gets massive with loads of am fluid around it, the other is smaller and not thriving. they would both die without this treatment where the doc inserts a tube inbetween the two babies, sticks a laser with a camera down there and uses the laser to quaterise the blood vessels that link the two babies together. you could see the image of the babies in the womb and their little feet and hands. the woman was about 20 weeks too so it was interesting to see what our little ones look like at this stage. they also had to remove four litres of am fluid from one woman at this stage . it was amazing.

scan at 13.30, will check in after

Hi All

Had my scan today! All fine, although have Anterior placenta (which is why I've not been feeling much movement) and is partly covering my cervix so have to go back for another scan at 32 weeks to see if it's moved. Didn't find out the sex as we'd decided not to (Although if she'd asked I might not have had the willpower to say no!)

Scan pics were a bit rubbish & blurry, and she only took about 15-20 mins, but baby is OK and that's what matters.

treats your friends "DP" sounds like an arse - what a thing to say to her!

DevilsA you're very brave doing your bathroom at this stage - haven't got any experience, but i'm a bit of a chicken when it comes to house renovations!

SassJ Delphi is a FABULOUS name - not heard it before, but think it's beautiful!

Possible names here at the moment are Eliza for a girl and George or Elliot for a boy (although I got 2 baby names books from the library this afternoon and I'm not afraid to use them! )

No talk of bank holiday weekend please I'm on night shift all weekend from tonight through to Wednesday night so will have no weekend to speak of! (And those of you in Wales & West Country can thank me for the change in the weather - it always turns sunny when I'm on nights! )

Hope everyone's doing well...I'm feeling so relieved now that the scan has come back OK - feel like I can start really enjoying things now!

Hi all

am so jealous to hear about your scans - its lovely but mind isnt til 25 June which seems such a long way off still! We also havent done anything about names apart from DP sugesting every member of Liverpool FC

not sure who was asking about pins and needles in their arm at night - I've had this since i got preganant and the concencious seems to be carpal tunnel syndrom (apparently). Wearing a splint at night is supposed to help (according to the physio but am still waiting for mine). Am now kitted out in a giant tubi-grip to wear from my bra line to below my hips to try and improve my back - just when I felt completly unsexy anyway....

take care all and back soon

Thanks HT, and thanks Hackneybird for that thread link. It's all incredibly confusing, will just sit tight and see how I feel nearer the time.

Smallone - the thought of having my MIL around while I'm in labour has sent chills down my spine....would rather take the girls to hospital with me.

Can't remember anything else I was going to say as the builders have had a jackhammer going all afternoon as they're demolishing our conservatory. We're currently converting the whole ground floor - not as bad as it sounds as kitchen etc is currently on first floor...but still doing my head in! The only plus side is that the weather's nice so it looks a bit like a diet code advert out there.

OMG the idea of ANYONE except my DH being around me whilst labouring sounds horrific. Yes you stick to your guns Smallone.

Oooh knitting! I've made a cute little cardigan already and am in the middle of a blanket. I like to get a few rows done each day - v. relaxing. Got a busy few weeks ahead of me, but plan to put my feet up and relax for the rest of the pregnancy after that, so am hoping to get loads more done! Never know what size to do though - not a problem with the blanket, obv! - don't want to do newborn size in case it turns out to be a big baby, but would like it to have something that I made to wear home from the hospital.

smallone - I think you should stick to your guns about having your mum look after DD. I can understand why your DH is upset, but the prospect of having MIL present while I'm labouring would clinch it for me. I wouldn't tell your DH that it's because you don't think your MIL cares for your DD as well as yours does.

Treats glad all was well with your scan, when I was buying bits and pieces for DD I made a list which I shared with DH, which I don't think he was very interested in and then just bought things on my own and showed him. Got around having to argue about stuff.

Although DH is currently in a bit of a miff coz he's just asked me who is going to have dd when I'm in labour and I said my friend who lives locally will have her straight off and then my M+D who live about 3 hours away will come down to pick her up from my friends. So now he's in a (little) strop because I haven't considered his mum and dad. Is this unreasonable of me?

My main reason is I would completely relax about my mum having her whereas MIL does tend to hype dd up, stuggles to get her to sleep and keeps trying to feed her chocolate. But I can back this up with the fact that my parents are retired and fairly well off so could afford to stay in a hotel while they were here, and DH's parents work and would have to stay at our house.

I had a ridiculously long first stage last time so it is likely that I'll want to offload dd much earlier than I go into hosp and I don't want my MIL around while I'm labouring!

Hi Treats, glad all went ok with your scan. I go past the big M&P every day as I work round the corner. Haven't really worked up the courage to go in yet. A colleague of mine who is due at end of July has bought lots and lots of stuff from there, all matching bedding etc.

I know what you mean about DH, mine is being a bit of a pain. I think the reason we've hardly discussed anything is because when we do, we have a row! Glad I'm not the only one who hasn't really started preparing. I've been doing a lot of reading though, I am clueless about babies.

smallone I like the idea of having a deep clean. We seriously need to declutter, particularly as we have a fairly small flat. I may also do some knitting! I really fancied it the other day, but don't like to get too far ahead of myself, just in case.

HC I like your hospital bag idea. 30 weeks doesn't seem that far away all of a sudden. Eek!

Afternoon ladies

Treats-sorry your scan was such a worrying time for you but so pleased all is well. Sadly men have no idea when discussing baby things. The crib I bought off my school friend can either rock or stay still.

I have decided that when I get to 30 weeks and can count the weeks to go on my hands I will pack a bag so will need a bag of nappies, vests and sleepsuits and a hat as forgot last time and was frowned at. Was the end of June so thought I wouldn't need one. Will need to dig my big nighties out and a dressing gown. I also like to have a new pair of slippers.

I like Joseph but am still set on having Matthew with John (DH's dads name) as the middle name. Also like Adam. For a girl I like Chloe, Charlotte, Lottie and Lucy but will never need to choose one now.

Better get on as was in the middle of emptying my pots when nursery phoned to say DD2 had fallen and grazed everywhere and had a nosebleed. So had to rush and get her. Doh, it's pouring with rain now. Ironing then I suppose.

Anyone done the sheets of toilet paper measurement round your bump-did this on my last AN thread.

Love to all.

HC
x

21+2

Oooh - meant to say that Joseph is my second favourite. If DH doesn't go for Alexander and I don't come round to Felix (his choice) then we might opt for Joseph as a compromise choice.

Hi there. Had the scan on Tuesday afternoon and everything was fine. I really didn't feel 'ready' for it, and DH said he could tell I was nervous going in, because I was holding his hand so tightly. But everything's fine. All the bits are in the right place and developing well. Was a bit disappointed that we didn't get a good view of the whole baby - s/he's a bit too big for a single view now, and it was just a mass of swirling images. But at one point, we could distinctly see the hand moving towards the face - the midwife said it was scratching its nose!

So yes - still s/he. We didn't find out the sex. We'd decided we didn't want to know anyway, but they didn't actually offer to tell us. There was no mention of it at all. I guess it's partly because the patient population at St T's is very ethnically mixed, so they probably have a policy about not telling people the sex - some cultures have preferences for boys, etc.

DH and I went to Mamas and Papas in Oxford Street afterwards to celebrate. I was determined that we were finally going to buy something for the baby. But we ended up having a big row over whether we wanted a static moses basket stand or one that rocks. DH was really keen on the rocking one, but I'm worried that it won't be stable enough. After that, we couldn't even agree to buy a pack of plain white newborn babygros! The whole baby thing is definitely bringing out DH's stubborn side.... I'm worried that we'll argue ourselves into not buying anything until after the baby's here!

My choices for names (so far) are Iris and Alexander with either of my parents' names as a middle name. DH doesn't agree though.....

HT mine used to take ages to load but DH has just wiped our comp of all the rubbish it'd accumulated and now its really fast!

Not bought anything new yet, am waiting til much later on, prob about 30wks before I get my baby stuff back from my mums (very kindly storing it in their loft) Most of dds early stuff was unisex so unless its gone grotty in storage, I'm hoping to get away without buying anything til after the baby is born.

Will prob get the knitting needles out at some point tho! I've started nesting tho, and have decided to do a deep clean of the house spending one week on each room, cleaning, sorting and hopefully getting rid of a lot of stuff to make room for the new baby.

Might redecorate DD's room as it'll prob be the last chance to do it for ages and we need to move her out of her cot into a bed.

I am very minimalistic tho, eg never had a changing mat for dd, just used old towels, and instead of a baby bath we used to bath her in a plastic crate! She did have a moses basket tho (£8 from charity shop) didn't make her sleep in a drawer!

We've done zilch either so far, am under strict orders from my superstitious mum not to buy anything until I've passed at least the 6 month mark.

peachespaige forgot to say yesterday that so glad everything was well and you got to hear the heartbeat. My internet supplier swapped over halfway through the day so I couldn't get back on for ages.

Couple of questions:
Dods anyone else find that this page takes ages to load?

And-am I the only person who is getting pins and needles in the arm? Its the left arm with me, worse at night but I also get it in the day. I've broken both wrists twice back in the days when I used to rock climb-am wondering if digging out my old splint may help.

Have a great day all

any more scans this week?

We've done nothing either! Apart from names, but that was kind of an accident because my cousin picked my first choice girl's name.
We're going to Greece for 3 weeks in mid-June, and have decided that we'll start shopping / setting up the nursery and so on when we get back in mid-July - I'll be about 27 weeks by then, so plenty of time!
Lameez - it's our first too! and definitely a blessing.
Feeling lots more gurgly somersaults this week. Love it!
Looking forward to the long weekend so I can spend more time with my lovely husband - really hoping it's sunny!

HB sorry to hear about your MC

we have done nothing - we are going to buy a new mattress for the cot and moses basket

have bought one pack of babygros (unisex) and that is it

maybe i should do a bit more?!

HC I often do a 'cull' on FB. I keep getting friends requests from people I went to school with - and there's a reason we're no longer in touch!

You are all so organised re: names and planning bedrooms for new babies and things, DH and I have planned and done nothing, except for two conversations about names. I think after my mc last year we are still too afraid. Perhaps after the scan next week. And I still feel like we have so much time, although the weeks now seem to go by faster and faster.

wibbly what a time you've been having, I am so pleased everything is going well now. It's worth looking for past GBS threads. There is an active thread happening right now which you may find useful, it's here. However, it is all very confusing.

Afternoon all. Baby woke me up at 4.20am and I went for a drive, wistfully looking at all the houses I fancied that were waaaay out of our price range. Thought about going to the M & S Penny Bazaar but couldn't face the queues so went back to sleep once he'd stopped kicking so hard. We're not telling anyone IRL that we know the sex and its so hard not to say "he" when we talk about the baby!

LittleMissBliss(yay, another boy!),fidelma*,*smallone and wibblydibs - congrats on the scans, great news

Any news from Treats*?

*smallone 2 hours . My bladder would not have lasted. Our scan pic isn't that great either, my mum got her copy in the post today and is a bit concerned as she can see no legs!

wibblydibs what a worrying time you've had, so glad scan was ok. I don't knoe anything about streB I'm afraid although have spotted a few threads on mumsnet. Hope the MS calms down.

SassJ - I love Delphi, haven't heard it before. I have quite a few Greek friends and know a Tula, Ariadne and Despina amongst them

Hi everyone...

Not been on for a while, but have been keeping up with all the news. We had our 20 week scan yesterday and everything seems to be just fine - we didn't find out the sex, although DD1 asked! I need a surprise at the end of pregnancy and childbirth - it helps get me through!

Have been lying low as had some bleeding at about 14 weeks and have been just holding my breath for the scan. So pleased all is well - am feeling lots of movement as well so that helps. Also been told that I'm carrying Group B Streptococcus which I'm getting conflicting information about...anyone know anything about it? And MS is still hanging around, my iron levels are low and my SPD is a nightmare already! I feel old...

Sorry...very me, me, me - maybe I should go back to lurking!

Hi all,
Scan was fine yesterday but it took FOREVER! Don't know if the woman was new but she was certainly overcautious. With DD it took about 20mins but this time took 2hrs! Its 30 mins to and from the hosp so all in all it took all afternoon. Very glad I managed to get dd to a friends as I was planning on taking her with us, and that would have been a nightmare!

The problems were in checking babys heart and the placenta. She looked at the heart for ages, then gave up and did the rest, then went back to the heart, by this time I was asking what exactly she was looking for as I could clearly see the 4 chambers of the heart pumping away the first time, but she just said she wanted to rule out heart defects. So anyway she was tipping the table this way and that way and sending me off to have a drink and walk around, then she was happy with the heart and said she had to find my birth canal on the scan so she could check my placenta wasn't covering it. Cue more turning me upside down to scan, then she decided my bladder needed to be fuller so sent me off again to drink a pint of water. Meanwhile she started scanning someone else who she also had "trouble" with so by the time I got in there my bladder was bigger than my head and I thought if she pressed too hard I might wet myself! But anyway she decided placenta was all fine and she gave us a rubbish still as a pic to take home, baby looks like skeletor! I know I would be very grateful if any of this had led to discovering a defect but I was very close to just saying "stuff it" and leaving!

Morning Everyone

fidelma Ahhh all the miss haps, I’m sorry, you must have been so mad, but I’m glade all went well with the scan, when ever I read everyone’s comments on the scans I get so excited and impatient for my turn

LittleMissBliss Congratulations on the results, a boy that’s well sweet…

Sassj It feels like we’re sort of in the same boat, my mother in-law had 5 sons, no daughters, and they all very keen on me having a boy, to put it in her exact words (I’d much prefer boys as I don’t really know to much about girls) it hurt a little as I am looking forward to having a girl, but needless to say what ever the results it will still be a blessing as its only my first. Good luck with the scan, ill be watching for your results in 2 weeks.

HC and peachesI am really looking forward to them entertaining each other, DP and his brother have a two year gap. They got on really well as kids but fought allot too. Very excited now!

Its all about names now! looking forward to the new arrival, think we'll get a few new bits but will be much cheaper this time.
Told dp that we don't have to move now as they can share a room. Which I'd prefer. But a bigger garden is still important to us so we'll see.

I also really like the name Delphi! Tis lovely!

Seems Joseph is a popular choice amoungst us!
I have always loved it and it's great that its a family name too!

Halfmum hope you feel better soon, i think you should take a day off work and put your feet up!

Morning all.
Well We heard a lovely heart beat!!!!! Although ds2 talked loudly all the way through it "is it my turn mum, all finished yet" etc.
Also felt some prods yesterday too, to be honest I think I felt movements a week ago just needed to confirm thats what they were.
I love Delphi. My friends dp is Greek and they have a boy Sava and girl Anatacia but pronounced Annasasia.
My ds2 middle name is Joseph.
Its lovely to have 2 of the same sex close together imo, my boys are 2years 11days apart and play great super hero games, share a room, get up to mischieve etc.
Sorry to hear about food poisoning, lots of fluids.

congrats on the scan news to littlemissbliss and fidelma*

*halfmum - hope you feel on better this morning

i have finally given up and am in maternity clothes now - bump seems to have sprouted in the last few days

felt loads of movement last night which was nice

hope everyone is doing well - bank holiday weekend looks like it may be sunny so will be out in the garden i think (loads to do)

have good days all

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congratulations on the scan news
LMB my boys are so close it really is lovely and something i'm looking forward to seeing with DD and this little girl

also love the name Joseph (it's ds2 name!)and also all other names, we had Benjamin if i was having a boy

Sorry I mean littlemissbliss not HC

Great scan news everyone.HCit will be amazing having 2 boys.But for your info we tried the timming method with pregnancy number 3 as we had 2 girls.Not that we minded just that we thought that we would give it a go and hey presto a boy.I have one friend who did it 4 times and got the required result every time Girl boy girl boy.It may just be good luck but it was also fun!!!yes the cold and wet in Scotland must make us a bit mad. as our mate at the garage said today when he found out that i was having a 4th."HAVEN'T YOU GOT A TELLY"it did make me laugh.sleep tight Fid x

LittleMissBliss-I know the feeling when I found out DD2 was a girl but it lasted all of a week and to have not got her would be just terrible.

HalfMum-your baby should be just fine as they cope with the terrible MS that some people suffer for 9 months.

Just had a cleanup of my Facebook 'friends' so deleted over 60 as sick of having friends I don't actually know. Feel cleansed now.

HC
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oh dear. just had a bout of food poisoning. Hope baby is ok. Feel a bit stupid really as it was something I cooked - lentil soup of all things.

I am feeling better and can keep fluids down. Might have the day off work tomorrow if I am still feeling rough.

beanie - I like Erin

As for those having boys - its great!

Hi,

congratulations on all the great scans . Fidelma - not surprised you were but I'm glad you got there in the end!

DP and I are finding it really difficult to agree on a name. We both like Caitlin or Erin for now but it changes daily. Plus my niece's name is Kayla and I'm not sure if that's too close to Caitlin - what do you all think?

SassJ - I'm not sure which I prefer, they are both lovely. I'd never heard Delphi before - is it quite common in Greece? - but the more I think about it the more I like it.

After not feeling any movements up to about 20 weeks the baby now seems to be constantly dancing about - I feel her kicking and wriggling really regularly now every day. It's lovely but she seems to be active all day and night - I hope she learns to sleep before she is born!

HC I was a bit disappointed to find out it was a boy, but i am now really excited after having a good think about it, boys are lovely if a little energetic!

Hopefully they will be best friends as the age gap is just under two years. I am really looking forward to seeing my little boy! And lord knows we'll save so much money on clothes, i would have been a nutter if it had been a girl!!

Ah, Fidelma - so glad you had such a great scan. Husbands can be totally infuriating, can't they?!
Can't wait for my scan, 2 weeks and 2 days away still and feel a bit like I'm in limbo before I know everything looks OK and what flavour we're having.
Know I shouldn't, but I'm hoping for a boy really because I know it will make my in-laws really happy - they're Greek and it will mean a lot to them to have a Grandson to carry the family name (my SiL had twin girls). I have a strong feeling it's a girl though, so they might be a bit disapointed, although they'd never say or show it - bless 'em. I'm more concerned about all of the bits being in the right places to be honest.
Don't have any choice on the name if it is a boy, will be named after it's Paternal Grandad (or 'Papu'), and I was going to go for Evelyn Flora if it's a girl, after both of my Grandma's. I was always going to do that, decided on it years ago. Only problem is that my cousin and his girlfriend have just had a little girl (and they were so sure it was a boy!) and called it Evie Florence - How bloody anoying is that?! Florence is our Grandmother, but Lord only knows where they got Evelyn from - arghh! Anyway, I guess (looking on the bright side) it gives me a chance to have a play with other names - what do you think of Delphi Christina, or Ariadne Christina? I like both, DH prefers Ariadne....

Congrats on todays scans girls. LittleMissBliss-he will be lovely and his big brother will adore him.

HappyTangerine-I now buy 2 cucumber plants as after the first 2 cucumbers they die off before they have chance to grow. At least I get 4 cucumbers this way.

Looking forward to more scan news.

HC
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Hi all,

Just a quick post as i have to get ds's dinner ready.

Scan went really well and got lots of pictures, hands, legs, feet, profile and portrait, eight in total much better than last time!

So we are having a little boy! Hopefully i will get a little girl one day... but had a feeling that it would be a boy in the end as boys run in dps family.

Names i like are,

Joseph (dp's grandad)
Lucas
Dylan

But who knows at this stage, it took us ages to agree on Jacob for ds!

DH was working on the computer.I wanted to leave early so as to enjoy the whole experience.Left with no time to spare (20 week scan)Hit a pot hole 5 miles from home and 7 miles from hospital.The alloy broke DH now has to change tyre!!!!I am fumming at the road side.Ring hospital to tell them that we are on the way.They were very nice and I calmed down.DH managed to change tyre and we were off.My bladder now feeling fit to burst like the tyre!!!!Lovely MW takes us for the scan.She was amazing.She spent 40 mins going through everything.Telling us what she was doing and that everything was normal.Baby yawned and she replayed it in slow motion.We don't know what it is.I also had to empty my bladder as it was squashing the baby.Lovely to see.The best scan I have ever had.Good luck to the rest of you.Ithink my names are Connor or Iona.

Just popping in to try and catch up with everyone's news before heading off to my scan this afternoon!

Still haven't decided whether to ask about the sex...probably won't decide till I ge there, only to find out baby is in wrong position anyway!

So much happening with everyone!

We had Zane all lined up for a boy ...... no clue which direction to go in now we know we're having a girl - thank goodness there's plenty of time to work something out!

So, Zane is up for grabs if anyone wants it!!!

hackney bird i wouldn't worry about work friends. a very close friend might put me off but if you don't draw the line somewhere, there'll be no names left!

Oooh DA - just saw your message. We had our bathroom done about two months ago. It took about a fortnight all told, so you might have to be prepared to make alternative shower arrangements. The only other tip I would give is to get one company in to do all the work (plumbing, tiling, etc.). If you try and co-ordinate it all yourself, it'll be a nightmare.

Really glad we got it done though. I feel a lot better about bringing baby into it.

Congrats on the scan cookie*!

*Bella my nana was called Lillian May. It's a nice name, very feminine.

Humphrey, pleased to hear you finally found your skirt for summer! At a bargain price too.

lameez I'm also not telling anyone what names we choose. I might discuss it on here but not in RL. Although I'm totally stuck for boys names at the moment. I quite like Milo, although I know someone else with that name for their child. She's just someone I know through work rather than a friend though. What's the etiquette on that sort of thing?

Had a message from hospital yesterday rescheduling my scan to this afternoon!! It's not that much earlier than it would have been - only two days - but I feel all unprepared for it. I hate the way they call it an 'anomaly scan' - I feel like I shall be coming out with a list of all the things that are wrong with it! Obviously I feel more apprehensive because of the gastroschisis diagnosis at the last scan (which fortunately turned out to be nothing). Keep your fingers crossed for me everyone.

We've decided not to find out the sex, although if ours turns out to be an exhibitionist, then that will be that. I'll report back if we find out accidentally. .

BellaCullen I have the same concern as you - it feels really low down. I'll ask the sonographer this afternoon and see what they say.

I tried to call my friend last night to see how she is, but she didn't answer and hasn't returned my call. . I'm supposed to be seeing her tomorrow so will keep my scan photo well hidden.

peachespaige good luck at the doctors

HC if you find the secret to growing cucumbers please, please let me know - I managed to kill every sincle one of mine last year.(sob). And the courgettes

Lameez - memners of my faily looked at me like I was a loon when I mentioned the names we liked as well. I picked a few choice ones that I knew they would hate [evil grin icon], added in James Tiberius Kirk as they know I'm a bit of a Trekkie and hey presto - they suddenly LOVED the original choices and we haven't heard a peep out of them since

hello everybody!

yay for boys! starting to even up now

have had hectic few days, trying to take it easy now as am working tomorrow and thursday and we have a busy weekend again.

does anyone else long for a weekend where they do nothing?!

we've decided to re-do our bathroom too. hopefully before the new baby comes. hope it isn't too stressful. anyone got any experience? tips to share?

some lovely names floating around on this thread.

Morning Everyone

Treat - I’m really sorry to hear about your friend, that is so sad; I hope she will be ok.

Congratulations to everyone on the scan results, it’s almost even now….

HumphreysCorner Good luck with the pot plants, I am completely useless at growing stuff

I think all the names are really sweet, I am thinking I will hold back the name I was thinking for both a boy and a girl, as when I mentioned it to most members of my family they all looked at me like I was crazy or something, what nice is that DH is supportive and likes the name.

I hope everyone has a wonderful day

Morning all. Im off to the doctors around 11am and hoping she'll have a listen for the heart beat.
Great names. We had Gabriel on our list but a friend called her ds it so we've sadly taken it off.
My friend had a baby girl named Molly yesterday!!! We also had that name for one of my other pregnancies but its very popular round here so we removed that one too!
I like Lila, which is why I've picked Delilah as a middle name after Annie (DP Granny that died ), I also had a friend that died named Lila
Boys are lovely (Ive got 2), full of energy and life.
Well wish me luck for today.x

Good luck for todays scans.

HappyTangerine and CookieMonster-yay for the boys.

Treats-that is the saddest thing I have heard in a long time. She should leave him and may be more successful conceiving with someone more human. and

Bought a denim skirt off Ebay for £12-49 inc P&P and it is immaculate and fits like a dream so now have a skirt for summer even thought it is blue denim.

Off to the garden centre today to get some things for my pots and hanging baskets. One of my cucumber plants has pegged it so need to replace that.

Love to all!

HC
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21 weeks!

congratulations on all the scan and little boys!
good luck for scans today

love all the names and the name eva , but not for me as it's my surname

will check back later for scan news

Good luck for tomorrow fidelma Hope baby is co-operative so you can get a good look

We only really had one boy's name that we both loved from day 1 so am pretty sure we're going to go with that - Gabriel. Our surname ends in el as well but the two strangely work together.It would have been Sophia if a girl.

Bella and fidelma - love the names

evening all congrats on all the scans and to all the boys.I've got my scan tomorrow.They don't tell you what flavour,but I am hoping/not hoping for a wee look!!!
I am feeling more movement today.20 weeks tomorrow.I will be glad to see that everything is OK.

I love the names.Freddie and poppy and another ie endding would be great the names have to go together(well for a few years anyway!!)DH and I don't really agree on many names which is quite hard.Ava , Eva and Evie are all lovely.

lovely names Bella

My baby is laying awkwardly with its' spine pressing against my tummy which is why they took ages to scan me

just like DS - awkward <<sigh>>

CookieMonster1,HappyTangerine,KKKaty congratulations on your scans and for having boys.So its 5-4,boys really caught up now wondering what the next scan will reveal.Mine is next week friday so still a while.

Treats feel so sorry for you friend and what an a* her DH is.

Feeling a bit worried about where baby is lying,seems really low it always kicks right above my bladder.Anyone else baby lying low?

twinklegreen I like Emilia its lovely name.We`ve got Nathaniel for a boy and Lilly-Mae for a girl.I like lots of other girl names can discuss with DP when we know the sex.

Congrats to everyone who's had scans, looks like it's going to be a week for the boys! things seem to be evening up a bit.

I am scheduled in for my scan on 1st June and trip to consultants.

Feeling really tired today.

Treats - sorry to hear about your friend. how crappy of her DP!

Hello everyone.

Had my 20 week scan last week and it's a boy. So I think that makes 5 girls, 3 boys so far looking at the dates list.

Happy news!

kkaty and tangerine - let's hear it for the boys!!!

So funny about curiosity getting the better - me and DH had a wobble at our scan last week but baby had its legs frimly shut

treats - how awful for your friend - he sounds like a git

hope everyone else is ok - just realised we have a long weekend coming up with the bank holiday

actually feeling a bit daft - been really sore since my scan last week. The scan took ages and they were fairly rough ... do you think i should call MW or is that just silly

ooh, forgot to say welcome to the newbies , big wave

Had scan,there was a gynae clinic on at the same time so we were 40 mins late going in. Had loads of missed calls from family by the time we came out. Anyway...

Curiosity did get the better of me - so much so that when the sonographer turned the scan around, it was the first thing I asked!

Everything fine and we are having a... BOY! . So our instincts were right. He was wriggling about so much that the scan pic isn't that great but he gave us a little wave and did some busy kicks before helpfully showing us his bits!

KKKaty - congratulations . We're slowly catching up with the girls

smallone and LittleMissBliss - good luck for tomorrow

HC glad you had a good time at the caravan, I did wonder with all the mad weather we had over the weekend. Hope your DD isn't too ill with the chicken pox.

Treats I so feel for your friend, her DP sounds horrible

OMG Treats I feel so for your friend. Her DP sounds like a class A b***d.

A dear friend of mine is having trouble conceiving also and it is really upsetting for them. I was dreading breaking my news to her, but she was good about it.

Hi everyone.

Can't remember who was asking whether £50 a day was good value for a nursery in Central london, but I can tell you that our local nursery in Battersea is £69 a day - so think you're on a winner there!

Loving the names that people are choosing! KKKaty - congrats on having a boy.

MHCB - pleased to hear that your back pain is easing. I know you went private in the end but it's good that your consultant was able to sort out all those NHS appointments for you.

Had an absolutely horrible day yesterday. I have a very good friend who has recently been for her third course of IVF, and I've been really praying that it works for her this time. Found out yesterday that, not only has it not worked, but that her not-so-DP is now saying he'll leave her if she can't have his baby. It's his "human right" to have a child apparently . I could feel my bump pressing up between us as I hugged her (couldn't think of anything to say) and felt absolutely awful. It just makes me feel so to think that DH and I are so happy and looking forward to the birth of our baby - which just seems such a simple thing - but for other people it's so hard........

Oh, must have jinxed DH's puter too.

Hurrah Katy- that is 2 of us having boys now.

Lameez-sorry about the MS returning.

twinklegreen-it is fine to have a similar ending name.

HappyTangerine-of course you want to know the sex. Good Luck!

smallone and LittleMissBliss-good luck for your scans tomorrow.

Lol-we went on a caravan site with electricity so I could use my GHDs. DD1 cam down with Chicken Pox so was poorly all weekend and it rained but we did have a nice time.

Hope all OK.

HC
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20+6

Hurrah Katy- that is 2 of us having boys now.

Lameez-sorry about the MS returning.

twinklegreen-it is fine to have a similar ending name.

HappyTangerine-of course you want to know the sex. Good Luck!

smallone and LittleMissBliss-good luck for your scans tomorrow.

Lol-we went on a caravan site with electricity so I could use my GHDs. DD1 cam down with Chicken Pox so was poorly all weekend and it rained but we did have a nice time.

Hope all OK.

HC
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20+6

Congratulations katy!!! Boys are lovely!

OOh shopping can't wait....

Congrats Katy, about time we had a boy or two on the list.

You must be very relieved.

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Hello all!

Well, we've just been for my 20 week scan, and despite me being convinced for some reason that we were having a girl, we're not - we're having a boy!! I really didn't mind either way, but I'm glad I found out so I've got time to get my head around the fact that it's not a girl! DH is really chuffed although he didn't mind either way either. The scan went really well, all the bits are in the right place and working fine, so that's a relief too.

And now we can shop!!!! Hurrah. All in all, a very good day.

Sorry for the mix up i meant Twinkle ....

Forgive silly me... im at work and doing two things at once...

Hi Everyone

I hope you all had a wonderful weekend, i slept the whole weekend it was so relaxing i cant wait for this bank holiday so i can sleep somemore, i know it all sounds so boring but thats the thing i love the most at the moment.

My MS is back for real now, its so annoying i cant eat anything and im so tinny.... I was realy hoping i would gain some weight as iv always weight an average of between 45 - 47 kgs...

My little cherub has been moving loads but its mainly in the morning and the late afternoon it has a little routine now its so sweet, there are just light thumps but i guess i feel it more as im so skinny.... Everyone still thinks its too soon as im only 16+2

Good Luck to all scans coming up, Hackneybird my scan in only on the 19th of June, im well of everyone...

Oh and i think the name Ava is so sweet i love it.... Here's hoping you friend has a boy...awwww

Oh no Twinkle, how annoying that a friend might go for Ava. Some friends of mine in the past have unwittingly chosen names that were on my list. I've always kept this list very quiet though so they don't know that.

We're going to keep completely silent about the names we choose, for all the usual reasons. Don't want people making faces at us when we tell them what we are considering!

HT Good luck with your scan! Go on find out....

Hi all, just a quickie.
THANKYOU all for your lovely reassurances regarding movements. Im al ot calmer about it today

I really hope all the scans go well today.
Mine is in 4 weeks but we are on holiday for 2 of them so thats not so bad.
My boys are Malachi (malakee) and Flynn and if this baby is a girl we like Annie-Delilah!
My boys names are Cassius (Cas) or Rowan....
Who knows.
Must dash to get ds2

hackneybird Eva was my dh Grandmothers name I like Ava too, only problem is one of my best friends is going to have Ava if she has a girl and is due a few weeks before me , so i'll have to hope she has a boy!!

Morning all,
Thought I'd put down a few things about movement that I've gleaned. It seems that the obstetric profession agree that you shouldn't expect daily movement till 25-28wks, that previous c-sections or other gyne surgery can kill some of the nerves so you feel less, and the position of the baby and the placenta can affect things. If the placenta is lower on the front wall where you feel early movements, this will dull the sensation, and if the baby is kicking/punching towards your back you are less likely to feel it.

Also personally I can only feel kicks when sitting down and when I'm not doing anything else so if you're busy rushing around alot you're less likely to notice it.

I hope that puts some minds at rest.

Got my scan tomorrow, not going to find out sex. Just want to make sure its not twins, coz my first scan was so fast I don't think she can have checked properly!

V. of all the scans, I have to wait until 28th May! That's a week on Thursday. An age away.

Twinkle, you should call no.3 whatever you want regardless of the ending! although I can see how you'd worry about it sounding a touch twee. I see you like the name Eva, that's on my list too. Eva or Ava, I like them both. Although I am having very strong boy sensations, so I should start thinking about boy's names too.

you better make your mind up HT!

Hi all, Scan at 2.40 today so nervous and excited at same time. Hoping that the medication I am taking for the chest & sinus infection isn't going to skew my blood tests.

Still not sure if we want to find out the sex

Morning all,

25 hours untill my scan........not that i'm counting or anything..!

Not sure about names as yet going to make a shortlist when i know the sex..in 25 hours .

20 weeks today. Can't believe i'm halfway already!

Hope you have a great holidays sammysam and littlepea.

Hope you enjoyed your weekend away HC.

Please try not to worry about movement, I don't think you should be feeling lots if any movement at this stage. Just a bonus if you can. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the baby if you can't. I know it's easier said than done.

Morning all

Hope everyone's had a good weekend. I've just started to think about names too, I have a question for everyone... My DC's are Poppy and Freddie, do you think I could go for another name ending in ie/y (I'm liking Amelie, Tilly) or should I choose something with a different ending (I'm liking Eva or Emilia)? What do you think would sound the best?

Is there any more scans today??

supercherry have added your details to the dates list.

welcome newbies!

the movement thing is such a worry, i remember being concerned last time, esp as the baby gets bigger and doesn't move around as much.

this weekend my hormone have been running wild. has not been very enjoyable, i hope i stop feeling so up and down soon. it's the halfway point for me this week and my scan is on friday so i feel like i have something to look forward to.

i had a course all day saturday and had to sit on a very hard chair all day. i had a numb bum by the end! which is surpriing considering the padding

how is everyone doing with names? we have some but i keep changng my mind completely. i think we have a boy's name sorted but girls are harder imo.

we ate some radishes from the garden at the weekend too! i can't believe i actually grew something now i'm really excited about the rest of the crop.

hc how was the caravan trip? did you survive without your straighteners?!

Am back from the caravan so quick hello and just to say that Willmouse due 17-10 has no movements whatsoever with her baby (No3) so she went on Friday and the MW found the HB. So it is possible not to feel anything yet.

Hi Supercherry-you are most welcome.

Big wave!

HC
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20+5

Hello,

I joined this thread a while back, but have never contributed. I have been constantly stalking you all though!!

I am really thinking of peachespaige at the moment. Peaches, I am also pregnant with number 3 - 17+3 weeks - and I too haven't felt any movement. I had felt my other two long before this time, especially no.2 - boy - who, like yours, was really active.

I have put on a lot of weight since my previous pregnancies and have thought that my extra bulk is the reason I can't feel the baby.

I'm quite relaxed about things at the moment, but my husband and dad are getting a little alarmed. I bet we'll be complaining about are wriggly babies keeping us awake before long!

All the best for Wednesday.

Hi

Peaches I hadn't realised quite how different different pregnancies are. This one #2 is SOOO active so it's only now I realise that DS was really inactive as I barely felt him much at all. It seems that so long as they are self consistent it isn't so much of a worry.

MHCB I don't know if it's worth checking out but I was speaking to a GP friend recently (rather than my own GP) and apparently the only issue with ibuprofen is in the last trimester. I've been lucky so far in that my back has only given me occasional twinges but if it did get really bad again I think I would be asking very specifically whether I could take it.

MeHim - sounds like you did the right thing with the physio. Its amazing when you can walk again after feeling so bad.

When my back has been bad having a rest on the sofa with cushions and hot water bottle has worked or lying down with knees up to press lower back into bed/floor.

I've had a few days at work where by 4pm want to cry as back hurting so bad.

Got my scan date at last. It is on same day as consultant appointment. Consultant first then scan.

Anyone know what to talk about at the consultant appointment, mine is cos had EC last time.

morning all. Hope you're all having a great weekend?

Saw my consultant on Thursday (appointment was only 1.5 hours late) and promptly burst into tears as my back was so painful. She has referred me to the orthopedic consultant, anaethetist and specialist physio unit to try and sort things out but it potentially another 2 weeks before i get to see the physio so bit the bullet and went to see my usual (private) physio on Friday and am so happy that i did as today i can actually stand up straight and walk without my back giving out which is sooo nice. Apart from hot packs, can anyone recommend anything to relieve the back ache? Does anyone know if its safe to use things like tiger balm or deep heat?

enough moaning, off to the sunshine

Morning all. Sory for the me, me, me posts of late, just a bit worried.
For all of you lucky enough to be going away have a wonderful time rain or shine!!
Ive decided to book a Drs appointment for Wednesday and see what she thinks about the non movement.
Sammysam could the cramps be stretching of the Uterus, it can be quite painful, stops me in my tracks.
I have been experiencing a sort of tightening/ pushing on the left side of my tummy. I seem to remember the same feeling with my boys when they were bigger and used to roll over, Who knows.
Have a good day all.

Thank you for welcomes, hope I haven't messed up list. I have a 15mth old DS already. Not sure if I want to know the sex this time round. Really can't decide. I won't know my 2nd scan date until I have spoken to the consultant at the hospital about the last birth. Not sure if I want to go for a caesarean this time round. As you can see I'm very indecisive.

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11/10/09 KKKKaty #1 20 week scan 18th May
01/10/09 icantbelieveitsnotbitter #2 12 week scan 25 March. 4-weekly scans thereafter ! EPU scan 22/4 then another 31/5. Expecting/hoping to find out it's a boy but we'll see !!
12/10/09 littlepea72
12/10/09 Sparklytwinkletoes #2 scan 31st March
12/10/09 betterthanlife #2 scan 31st March
16/10/09 tjtheminx #2
16/10/09 Flamesparrow #3 -
17/10/09 Wiilmouse #3
17/10/09 smallone #2
17/10/09 HalfMumHalfBiscuit #2
22/10/09 MrsHappy #2
23/10/09 JellytotZ
25/10/09 Lal123 #2 12 week scan 28th April (2 weeks late!!!)
26/10/09 spongebrainbigpants #2
29/10/09 peachespaige #3
29/10/09 stroopwafel #2 12 week scan 14th April
29/10/09 Supercherry #1, don't have date yet for 2nd scan.
30/10/09 Koumak #2
30/10/09 MeHimCatBlob #1

Hello Supercherry

Welcome to the October thread (although as you will see from the Thread List

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=2290&threadid=723618&o=1242482534985#15452777

Some of us are due in September )

If you like, you can also pop the number of DC you currently have (if any!), your 20wk scan date, and if / when you know the gender of your baby. As you can see we're currently 6 girls to 1 boy .

Supercherry welcome. You could probably go on both threads!

Not sure where the full list is. Might be on a different thread. I am sure one of the lovely ladies on here will enlighten us...

Hello Everyone,

Can I join you? I was on the November thread but found out at my 12wk scan that I'm actually due on the 29th October.

Is there a list of everyone on here somewhere- I can't seem to find it?

Thank you x

We are off to Euro Disney!! Hooray!! See you all next week...be good!!! xxx

Calypso -£50 per day seems a lot especially for a university nursery. Mine is £30/day but we live in the middle of nowhere in wales so quite different price range. I am sure someone else will be along to tell you some different costs.

My DS loves his nursery. It is small, 10 or so children. Good age range in the carers which means you've got some energetic young girls, nice mummy types and a granny aged nursery worker which works really well.

I'd check out what they do for a day plan and what they feed them. Make sure they don't get left watching tv too often.

I booked DS in whilst I was pregnant to secure a place.

I didn't do this (wish I had) but it might be good for you to pick a place near the school you want them to go to so they can pick up and drop off after school so you can still go to work. I am having problems arranging wrap around childcare at the moment.

Good luck at the school reunion.

Hello all!
ooh some nice holidays (or not littlepea if your DS doesn't perk up ), wouldn't mind getting away.

Supposed to be going to a 'primary school reunion' tomorrow, but transpires that out of about 45, only 2 of my friends that I still see fairly regularly are going, heh. I hope there are some suprise visits, otherwise waste of time going back to my old city...

HalfMumHalfBiscuit I know exactly what you mean about the fretting of non-movement. I've been feeling baby move quite a lot recently, but today nothing. Had to spend some time trying to relocate the doppler and relieved to hear a HB of c150bpm which I think is ok? So perhaps she was just having a day off! Pretty scary though

There was talk of nursery visiting which prompted me to PANIC that I haven't even thought about logistics of childcare. My university has a small nursery which charges £50 a day - is that about average? It's in central London, but then I live in central London so could be normal for locality? How does one pick a good nursery? What kind of things would you look for as important? It would only be for 1-2 days a week but I want it to be as nice as we can (barely) afford!

Have a nice weekend!
x

20+3

Hey Everyone

Just writing now as im going to Euro Disney tomorrow morning until Thursday. Well, i hope we are going. DS is ill, took him to the doctors and he has more spots on his tonsils & also some bug. Went to drive him home & he has been sick all over the car & himself....3 times! We are going to check what he is like tomorrow morning, and if he is still bad then we will cancel. Just phoned the in-laws to tell them, as they are flying out tomorrow, just incase. Dont think a 6 hr car drive would be good with a sick child. It means losing out on the money, but hey, he is more important. Why does things always happen at the last minute? Its for his 5th birthday too....

Oh well....i hope everyone is ok. Im finding it hard also finding something to eat. I make it then dont want it.....

Sammysam have a great holiday!!!

Hi all.
Ive felt much sicker this pregnancy, I didnt at all with my boys.....not another girl surely?
Im going out tonight with dp for a friends birthday, its in a club! Not really too excited about it.
There is so much going on this year by way of celebrations, weddings, birthdays (30ths), hen nights all of which Ill be pregnant for. Thats the only thing, to get these beautiful babies we have to be pregnant!
Still no movements and Ill be 17 weeks on Monday. Im wondering if there is something wrong with bean, too worried to go to doctors. I have to wait until the Antenatal Clinic on Wednesday anyway.
Well thats all for now.

Afternoon ladies

sammysam-sorry you feel so rough. Hope you have a great time in Cyprus-it is years since I have been.

Any scans today?

Just packing a few bits for our weekend jaunt in the caravan (in the rain).

Have a good weekend!

HC
x

Morning!

Poor us! We all sound like we are having struggles! I wish I wasn't still feeling so sick. There is NOTHING I want to eat or drink at the moment but I am really hungry and thirsty....

Congrats on the scans!

Have a very busy day ahead-DD and I fly to Cyprus very early sunday morning for my sisters hen do. I have not packed yet and we are heading up to my dsis's early in the morning I don't even know if any of my summer clothes will fit!!! I'm not at all ready!!! Need to get euros sorted, pick up hen t-shirts, phone bank.....the list is endless!!! All with DD trying to help me ARGH!

First off to swimming-and I really can't be arsed to do anything-feeling really sick today

I hope everyone has a good day today x x x

(I have trouble keeping up with this thread day to day let alone after a week!!!)

Hi All

We hHad our anomoly scan today. All is well as far as they can tell. So good news. No we didn't find out the gender. When I asked how bit it was she said Barbie/Action man sized which was so much easier to relate to than x cm!

Bit of a shock when we realised that next time we see the baby it will no longer be via a scan. OMG how the hell am I going to deal with a new born all over again?

The house seems to be moving well, the surveys etc are all on track and the solicitor seems to be on the ball which is good. We hope to exchange in early JUne and complete in early July.

Visited the doctor again and he's not keen to "treat" me as such for any depression but is keen that I don't get any worse. Advised me to take some time off work but I had to say it isn't possible until July. I have to go back in a few weeks so that he can check on me. I hate being so out of control of my emotions.

Oh well, roll on July. When I will either have made my target and get a bonus in September (basically my maternity pay) or I won't and we'll just have to cope - new mortgage and all, not ideal but hey ho!

Thanks for lovely messages. Feeling a lot better today. Managed to get away with having the afternoon off work by saying I'd rather not talk about it....and no one noticed I'd got my mum to call in sick for me. I had to though as was so upset, crying and stuff, they'd have all been really worried.

Todays complaint is back ache and weariness at work by 4pm. Am now on sofa with laptop and duvet (and DS who is watching Ice Age).

Hope you feel better Happy and all those with our lovely pg symptoms, aches pains and hormones.

Still craving pineapple, marshmallows and cheese and pickle sandwiches.

I am 18 weeks but not had notice of next scan yet... impatient!

Hi all
Fairly quick post as have to take evil antibiotics in a mo which will render me useless. Husband dragged me to doctors this morning-turns out my stuffy nose/feeling of being hit in nose with a football is actually acute sinusitis and I have a chest infection to go with it. The only antibiotic I can take gives me terrible stomach cramps and nausea so its going to be a fun 7 days! I was so upset when she prescribed them that I burst into tears in the car, I really really hate these tablets but at least they won't affect baby.Pain has been worse than the infected wisdom tooth I had so looking forward to feeling better by next week.

(says quietly) I think we're going to find out the sex next Monday

Fidelma-congrats on the blood test result

Devils-so glad you are feeling better

HalfMum-sorry you had such a scare. I feel baby move on and off and stress if I don't. Find lying gently on my tummy usually does it, along with eating ice lollies(but not at same time

BellaCullen - how odd, I'm thinking about the next baby as well. Told DH last night and he looked at me like I was a bit mental. He'll be relieved to hear its hormones!

Cravings - yes, I am craving ice, big time.

Big hug to everyone feeling rotten x

Congratulations on all the good scans and can`t believe how many girls we have now.Am so jealous off you alreday having had scan I still have to wait 2 weeks am so impatient.If baby has legs crossed thinking of having 3D scan am so desperate to know the sex.Think its a boy but secretely hoping its a girl.I love all the clothes you can get and am complete girly girl love buying dolls and other girly toys.Will obviously be happy with boy too and ds is desperate for a brother and we always have next time.Already thinking about next baby its definitely hormones was like this with dd until she was 4 months old and the broodiness went.

Anyone got any cravings?Had cravings for tomatoe salad in last 2 weeks not sure whether its the tomatoes or the vinegar.Its obviously something body needs so I`1l just eat what it wants.Haven`t put any weight on yet either am sure that day will come and then it won`t stop.

Seen the physio this week for my SPD which was good she gave me whole list of things not to do like vaccuming and pushing trolleys.It was really good and make sure I bend down right and sit properly.

DevilsAdvocaat sorry you`re having a bad day don`t worry its definitely hormones and we all have days like that.I was shouting and ranting at kids mon as they were just driving me mad put them to bed at 6.30pm just to get some peace and quiet.

Flamesparrow glad you`re having a good week and you`ve got such a nice friend.

fidelma how annoying they won`t tell you the sex good luck with you`re scan next week.Would love to bank the cord blood just don`t have the money for it.

Sorry its such a long post about me me me.
20 weeks tomorrow x

hellooo

yes i'm feeling perky today. just got back from work and scoffed some chocolate which helps! feeling pretty tired but at least it didn't rain whilst i was walking to work.

at those who haven't gained weight yet. your time wil come

fid we didn't bank cord blood last time and will not be doing it this time either. what happens when they do it though?

i have no strong feelings as to what i am having! can't wait to meet him or her though. it is FAR too early to be getting impatient <smacks own hand>.

hi everyone

We are deffo due some boys! Am CONVINCED i am having a boy - the scan pictures look the spitting image of DS and he is lying awkwardly (just like DS)

Fidelma - have not really heard much about the blood bank thing ... what is the benefit?

Smallone - am ROFL @ the 7 dwarves! I have been sleepy, sicky and grumpy (poor DH)

Devils - are you feeling perkier today?

I am so tired - had such a hectic week at work. Have a late meeting tonight <<yawn>>

Love to everyone - have good days one and all

Hi everyone

How exciting to hear about all the girls. And names already as well! My scan is this time next week, but I think DH and I have definitely decided that we don't want to know. If the sonographer asks, though, I bet it will be a case of N.....Yes!

Not feeling the baby as much today or yesterday, so am relieved to hear the feedback about not being able to feel it really consistently until about 25 weeks. Trying not to worry......

Morning ladies

For some reason MN won't load on my laptop so having to use the proper computer which is a pain.

There must be some more boys soon I reckon, who is finding out next?

Have been to the MW this morning and she moaned because she thinks they should have done BP yesterday so that I wouldn't have to disturb see her. She gave me blood forms for the 28 week blood tests and a maternity grant form to fill in and get her to sign at 28 weeks when I next see her. She did say that although I get lots of movement now, between 20 and 25 weeks I may not feel much but 25 weeks onwards I should feel movement every day and if not to ring the team at the hospital.

Sorry there are no personal replies, hopefully DH can sort my laptop but it won't be until next week so have to rely on using his computer and he hogs it in the evening. Going away in the caravan for the weekend and I believe rain is expected. <sigh>

Hope all those feeling low perk up, panic ye not about weight. My nausea has returned this week so putting it down to a growth spurt.

Big wave!

HC
x

20+2

Morning all,
I hope everyone is having a good day. I've definitely hit the mood swing stage, am very weepy. Told dh I was feeling weepy last night and then proved it by bursting into tears when he questioned the fact that I'd bought spanish strawberries (only usually buy uk produce). Then I started laughing hysterically and said it must be like living with the seven dwarves. So far we've had horny, sleepy, grumpy and weepy!

Sorry you got yourself in a state HM, my MW has told me once you're over 16wks you can call a maternity unit direct if you can't get hold of your midwife. You don't need a referal from a GP etc. Good to know so you don't have to be passed from pillar to post! I had to call them in my last pg at 34 weeks coz I was having constant BH contractions that were really uncomfortable, I was fine until they told me to come straight into the EPAU, then I burst into tears coz I thought that meant there was something wrong and I wasn't just imagining it! It turned out dd was engaged and the bh were forcing her down into my pelvis, hence the pain.

MHCB, I've only just started gaining and I'm 18wks, something to be celebrated rather than worried about I reckon, it'll go on in the end.

Great news with all the scans.We must all be having boys as so many girls!!!

I finally got my blood test results and I am low risk for downs etc.I cried with relief.

I have an itchy rash on my arms and legs.I must call the MW tomorrow.I am also getting stressed about lack of movement,although I am now lying on my tummy and I can feel little flutters.
Scan on Tuesday for me.They won't tell us the sex.

Is anyone going to bank the cord blood? we did last time and will do it again this time.We used smart cells.
night night Fid x

mehimcatblob I have only just started to put weight on in the last few days and I'm 20+ weeks now, with my son I didn't put anything on until 27 weeks and he was 10lb 6oz at birth! So I wouldn't worry about it too much

HI all, just catching up.

been a busy week - had my unofficial hen weekend with my best mate last weekend which was lovely - nothing major as she has a 15 month old and I'm permanently tired but lovely all the same.

today we had 4 estate agents round to value my house so will put on market this week (I envy whoever said they've just had a offer accepted although after a long time of looking!). We accepted an offer on my partners house a few weeks ago so hopefully we can move before the baby arrives.

does anyone else have chronic back pains? I'm off to the consultant tomorrow as i have a history of slipped discs but things have been so bad over the last couple of weeks at times I can barely stand up - ho hum

Am a little worried seeing all the posts about weight gain as I'm 16+3 weeks and still haven't gained anything at all - is that normal? I havent had bad ms so can't put it down to that! something to ask the consultant tomorrow i guess

have a good day all and will catch up again soon

wow to all the girls!
we'd better try and balance it out eh?!

thanks for all your messages, gonna go to bed now and try to get out of the opposite side tomorrow iykwim.

halfmum lol. you got your mum to call in for you, you'll never live that one down. seriously though, i'd have done the same thing, hope you feel better tomorrow. i bet the minute you're dropping off to sleep the lo will give you a massive kick

hc congrats on your scan.

theboob beautiful name

Evening all!

Congrats on all the scans and all the girls!!!! Think it must be more than 4 girls now? Maybe we should add to our list?

Flame-I'm glad you have had a much better week and bless your friend for making you a skirt!!!

DA-I'm feeling very like you-have been for a while. I'm very grumpy and can't stop it-feel very sorry for dd but less so for dp as he is being a grumpy bugger as well-making me worse!!!

Feel very sick today-it's really getting me down and i'm also worried how i'll be on holiday....just hope I can find something I can eat....

I have NO motivation to do anthing at the moment-and have so much to do -hopefully i'll be better tomorrow!

Night all x x x

Oh dear stressed myself out today and the dear old NHS didn't help.

Fretted cos have been feeling baby move alot then in the last two days I haven't really felt anything.

I called the surgery where my midwife is and she is on leave so they advised me to call my drs surgery.

My surgery is closed on weds afternoon and they advised me to call alternative surgery or A&E. There was no answer at alternative surgery number they gave me and A&E in the local town is for minor injuries only and they told me to call larger hospital maternity ward.

The maternity ward told me to call Gyne ward who cut me off. I then re called and was put through to lovely midwife who said that everything is fine and sometimes this happens until 20-28 weeks pg when you feel movement more constantly.

After all that lot was I'd got myselft into a right state and was really upset and couldn't go back to work as was upset and didn't want to ring them. I actually (the shame) got my mum to call work to say I wouldn't be back.

Chilled out on the sofa and calmed down this afternoon. Watched trash film until DH/DS came home.

What a day. Worried myself silly for no reason.

congrats on three happy scans

I see that people are starting to add their baby's gender to the important dates thread - I'm also starting to lose count for the number of girlies we're having!

Devil Gah, I'm sorry you're having such a bummer of a day. I know I've been there and its pretty horrid, I really hope that some energy and enthusiasm will spring forth from somewhere very soon X

Oops, crossed post theboob - congratulations!. Lovely name as well.

I'm losing count now- is that 4 girls and 1 boy we have so far?

rubyslippers HC and twinklegreen - congrats on the scans

DevilsAdvocaat - you've already had an exam this week haven't you as well as the wedding to go to. You're probaby a bit wiped out by it all, I don't blame you for feeling a bit down! Hope things pick up for you in the next few days.

My scan is on Monday and like last time, I am v nervous. Hope I get a more communicative midwife & sonographer this time.

Bunged up nose sufferers - try Sterimar sea salt nasal solution spray - seems to be giving me some relief and is safe to use in pregnancy. Sinuses block again quite quickly but that half hr when I can breathe properly is bliss!

Will check back lataer for news of theboob

hello all

scan went well but took a long time, baby was in a strange position and checking the heart took forever, but all is well and we are having a baby............................

GIRL!!!!!!!!!!! grin]
i will now have 2 of each and we are going to call her Maddison Rose

congratulations on all the good scan news, and devil i hope your feeling better soon x

Ooh, congrats on the scans. Had my 20 week scan today and everything looks fine-he was waving like mad.

Must get tea, will check back later for news fron theboob.

Big wave!

HC
x

Flame my eyes are watering at the thought of that home birth! ...lol. Really glad you are feeling better this week, hope its the start of better times

Devil...I think alot of us are going through the same things. One minute i want food, make it & then dont eat it. Gave up smoking 5 years ago, but im craving the smoke smell! And nights times are a zzzzzzzzzzzz for me lol.... Give it another few weeks, we will be bouncing arround!

Well done on the scans for everyone who had them! Isnt it just the way, when you want to know the sex...the wee monkey hides its stuff lol....

Hope you had a good scan Boob! x

Congratulations on the scan new!
The girls are def out numbering the boys.

flame glad to hear that you are having a positive week. What a lovely friend you have

Devil Sorry to hear you aren't feeling your best hopefully you'll have a better few days. Glad you managed to enjoy the wedding in the end.

Awww DA <unMN hug>

Littlepea - the 12lber was a home birth!

I am having ups and downs. this is the best week in ages depression-wise

Oooh went to see my mate on Monday and she had made me a maternity skirt

Getting quite of all the scans now

WARNING: SELF PITYING RANT FOLLOWS

gah. i'm feeling miserable.
i don't remember feeling this uncomfortable and tired last time. i also already have heart burn, what's that all about then? i had it much later last time. i feel like i need a night out on the tiles and the fact that i can't do that is making me feel really rubbish. i went to a wedding on saturday and it was hard. everyone was drinking and smoking (i gave up years ago but for some reason was craving one). i just couldn't enjoy myself. the fact that i spent a few hours not enjoying myself made me feel like a complete loser as well, i mean it's not like i need alcohol to have fun. i think just knowing i couldn't made it seem worse. however, in the end i had a great time and danced all night.

today, it feels like, has gone on forever. i can't think of anything i want to eat but am starving all the time. then when i make a meal, i can barely eat it without feeling massively bloated.

i'm annoyed at myself mostly because i know that this part of pg is the easiest by far and i should enjoy it. i can't help feeling so impatient already and my usual sunny disposition is failing me. snapped at dh yesterday and ended up spending the evening by myself again even though i just wanted to snuggle on the sofa with him. seem to get tired at 8pm and can't help but want to go to bed.

i'm working tomorrow and friday and have a course all day saturday and I CAN'T BE BOTHERED.

on the flipside, ds has been a little treasure today and i just can't believe that in 23 weeks i'll have another.

i think my hormones are really all over the place today. keep almost crying at stupid things.

congrats on all the cool scan news everyone, who is next then? mine is a week friday.

Hi everyone, sorry not posted for ages. Have been checking every now and again and am pleased to hear everyone's news, glad to hear your scan went well ruby sorry LO did not co-operate! Seems to be alot of girl babies lately. I had my scan today and am also having a girl, which is what I wanted so I'm really pleased. Not that it really mattered as I have one of each already! Everything else fine as well which is a relief.

Sorry not to reply to lot's of other posts, have only checked the last two pages and it all seems to be scan news. Anyway, I'll try to be a bit better at posting now, I'm just so busy at the moment, we're in the process of having plans drawn up for a new house we're building which seems to take up alot of time, also dd may need to have an operation so we've been to and fro to the hospital with her (she's going for a CAT scan this week sometime) and it's breastfeeding awareness week so as I run a breastfeeding organisation we're doing various events around York and trying to organise the Press to cover it. BTW if anyone fancies popping down to the Slug and Lettuce in York on Friday @ 10am they are giving breastfeeding mums a free tea or coffee, and they'll also be lots of people down there giving out bf information. Anyway, so sorry for the long post!! I'll be checking back for more scan news soon

ha ! unlike my two DCs, ruby, who flashed it at any opportunity... can't wait to meet my lovely niece/nephew

<<exited auntie emoticon>>

LOL Ruby - a friend of mine had warned me that she was asked to stand in the corner and dance to get the baby to move then she had to lie on the bed and bounce like you. I wasn't looking forward to that but the bean behaved like a pro - bless her. On her tummy at first so they got all the spine and head measurements then turned over and lay back legs akimbo while they checked the rest of the organs and the sex.

well the last one was a suprise!

i had to bounce my bum on the bed to try and move the baby - so dignified

Congratulations on a great scan Ruby and an easy decision on whether or not to find out the sex. Mini-ruby obviously wants to surprise you!

So, had the scan baby very awkward - took 20 minutes for them to get all stuff they needed

not even a glimpse willies or other bits - baby had legs together very tightly (when they weren't over its head

we are really thrilled as everything looks very healthy and as it should - can't ask for more than that

good luck to everyone else

Rubyslippers* - thanks for the advise iv had my 12 week scan already i guess im just a bit anxious to get to that scan date and find out if my cherub is doing ok....

Good luck to you and Boob
x

rubyslippers & boob

Good luck and enjoy the scans!
x

lameez - the 19th June is around 5 weeks away so you would be 20 + weeks?

have you had your 12 week scan?

where we are you have to book your 20 week scan after you have had the 12 week one

if in doubt about the procedure then call your MW

Morning Darlings x

i was wondering, my next scan is only on the 19th of June, im 15+4, am i lost .

Im so excited for you all to be having your second scan's best of luck....

I did the chinees gender calander and it says im having a girl....

A confussed Lameez

morning lovelies

hope everyone is ok - good luck boob

my scan is also today and am now wobbling big time about whether to find out or not - will see how we go

Morning all!

Sounds like we have a few babies between us that like to keep us on our toes!!
I still can't get those images and panic out of my head-really must stop it NOW!

God-some of these weights DD was 8lbs 14 which was big enough! Quite glad it is another girl as hopefully that'll keep the weight down a bit at least that is what i'm trying to tell myself!!!!

I'm still getting a few pains-so have just assumed it all must be normal stretching etc-would be nice not to have it though!

Good luck for the scan today boob

Have a lovely day everyone-we're off to see Boogie Beebies at the theatre at lunchtime-should be interesting!!!!

Just checking in,

Boob good luck for the scan tomorrow!

LittlePea sorry you had such a scare, glad everything is okay. Twins would have been a right shock!

The idea of having a big baby alarms me- my sister was around 13lb 9 when she was born - 2 weeks overdue and without aid of a c-section. (There's an 11yr gap btwn us so I remember this well). My mum was 38 at the time and lost a lot of blood, not good as she is v anaemic anyway. My sister went straight into the next size up of babygrows, she was v long!

TheBoob - good luck for tomorrow

peachespaige - try not to worry, I didn't feel much at 16 weeks either and then suddenly I startd getting flutterings. They're more like little flips now.

Have had a real nothing day- was sick again and have rotten headache. Didn't feel baby move for most of the day and got a bit worried unti I ate an ice lolly and it suddenly woke up. I do miss my nose though. Best thing I've found to help the congestion is to leave the shower running for a bit and go stand in the bathroom. Terrible waste of water I know but at least I can breathe properly for a bit.

Hi all. Congrats on the scans. We arent going to find out the sex. I have 2 boys already and would be happy enough with a third, bit bored of blue though.....

I have an awful blocked nose and nose bleeds. I had this with my pther pregnancies too. I still havent really felt the baby move yet (Im 16 weeks), so Im a bit worried, felt ds2 earlier than this.....

Well thats all to report for now.xx

Must ask my MIL if she has a picture of my FIL when he was born, then i will post it on here, bet he must of looked like a 3 month old!

I know that i wouldnt have a baby anywhere near 14lb, thank god! If i did then i would faint on the spot lol. My FIL was telling me earlier that his mother had 10 off them, all between 11lb & 14lb! That woman must of been made of steel. I can feel were the baby is sitting, it does feel like a mild pain, slightly to the side, so if i bend over it hurts, im hoping that it moves over soon . Also glad that im not the only one with these pains, it makes me feel more normal.

Well done Flame to your friend, 12lb...did she do it without having a c-section?

SassJ...wonder if we will go on the same day?

Theboob...enjoy your scan tomorrow, are you finding out the sex??

Im off to lie down now, feeling very tired & very sick, but my mind is relaxed! Hope everyone is feeling well

congratulations on the scans.......girls how lovely

sorry about all recent scares, my little bean decided to scare me by not moving for a day and a night.......very active today thank god

have my scan tomorrow and i really cant wait,but that time of concentration from the sonographer i will have my heart in my mouth , will report back tomorrow what we are having as soon as i get back

Hey LittlePea, sorry you had a scare yesterday, but like Mrs Kitty says, try not to worry too much.
I'm due the same day as you and I've been getting dreadful back pain and tummy twinges over the past week or so. I've just started to feel the baby doing somersaults this week and I'm 5'9" and a pre-preg size 16, so not surprised that you at 5'1" are feeling it (and seeing it!) more keenly. I'm guessing that much of the discomfort is because the abdominal muscles part around now (causes the linea nigra in some of us). Plus as MrsK said, everything is moving and stretching now because those babies are turning into little people so fast!
Hope you're feeling OK - and hey, enjoy that you've had extra tests/scan and everything looks OK!

littlepea Don't panic too much about the estimated weight of the baby from a scan - I was scanned 24hrs before I gave birth to DS and they said he'd be "11 1/2 lbs at least" - he was 9lb 6oz (which is quite big enough, thanks very much, but some way off their prediction a day previous! )

I've had quite similar sounding pains to what you've described a couple of times over the past few weeks - I just put them down to uterus stretching/baby shifting - they've disappeared now. Scan next week so will mention it then.

Ouch at 14lb! I thought my mate's 12lber was huge

14lbs holy moly!
ds was 8lbs 13 oz and was so long!
i bet a 14lb baby looks like it's a few months old.

Litlepea 14LB ....... OMG!!!! That is HUGE! DD was 6lb 13oz and that was big enough - less than half the weight of your DH's father!

At least everything is OK, but you might get really uncomfortable towards the end if the baby really is going to be that big.

Oh god have i gotten it right...14 pounds, is that written as 14lb?? Well you all know what i mean! LOL....

Hello....

Great news on the scans....little girls!!!

Had a bit of a scare yesterday, i was having back pain with sharpe pains in my tummy, then left with a sore feeling on the right side of tummy. I seen my MW today & had to go get some tests done. They had a good feel of my tummy & said that i was to high & big for the due date i had, so they said that it was either: Im further on that we thought, big baby or twins that had been missed! Scans say that im still due on the 12th Oct, only 1 baby to be seen, so they all think im having a very big baby!!! This scares me as DH's Father was a big 14lbs! Im only 5 ft 1, so they are going to keep an eye on me. They could see the ripples on my tummy when the baby moved. What i have been feeling is the baby moving and curling up....Im feeling the baby move so much now, which is great, but im a bit shocked at what has happened today. Must admit, I am glad its not twins!

sammysam thanks for posting on the slapped cheeck thread

HappyTangerine my nose is exactly the same. very frustrating needing to blow my nose ALL the time!

My mind has gone blank to everybody's news. Sorry!

Lovely too see the sex's of all the babies
We are going to have to wait 24 + more weeks to find out what we're having!! I keep swinging back and forth between thinking it's a girl or a boy.
I think it is most likely to be a boy though. There are so many boys in my family and on dh's side of the family. dd was the first girl born in my family since I was born!!

Oh wow, what super scan news from you all. How worrying for you sammysam

So am I the only one having a boy so far-am sure all that will change very soon.

So who is having a scan today?

Picked up my swinging crib from my school mum friend last night and am cooing over in unable to believe there will ever be a baby in it.

Will check back later for scan news.

HC
x

Flame-ooh, just realised you got your scan date through, excellent

Idreamofbeanie and SammySam - congrats on the scans and your little girls

CalypsoFlame - yay for Star Trekand sci fi nerds. Um, I'm another one not that keen on make-up-I have foundation and lipstick but thats pretty much it. Me and mascara don't get on, I always end up looking like a a)smudged eyed goth or b)panda!

Idreamofbeanie - Glad you're feeling better now the shock has worn off. I also completely understand where you are coming from,have been secretly hoping for a boy as am a complete tomboy. I spent most of my childhood either playing football or rock climbing, dolls were not my favourite thing! I was 11 when my sister was born and had great fun indtroducing her to my tomboy activities although she is definately more girly than me now!

Sammysam - so sorry you had such a scare.

SassJ - aw, congrats to your sister. I am dreaming/praying of a short labour, esp as moth of my mum's were 36 to 48 hours. I think ante-natal classes are going to scare the hell out of me.Told my mum last night that I was hoping/praying for a 4-6hr labour in a positive thinking way and she broke into hysterical laughter.I'm scared now.

DevilsAdvocaat - you will have donen far better than you expected. Good luck with the results [fingers crossed icon]

Go up feeling great desoite being unable to breathe out of my nose(3 weeks and counting - I MISS my nose and sense of smell ). Did two lots of washing by 8am. Was about to go swimming and them morning sickness came back with a vengeance. Am hoping its a one off.

Looking forward to more scan news

Hi all,

thanks again for not making me feel crazy yesterday . After a goods nights sleep I feel much happier this morning and realised I wasn't actually worried about the baby being a girl just a bit overwhelmed. Between the scans and checks, seeing the new house we are moving to and visiting our works nursery, yesterday was a busy day - no wonder I felt a bit anxious. Especially after seeing the nursery - they invited me to visit when I joined the waiting list but I had no idea what to look for or what I should ask. I think that's what brought on the new mum panic and made me feel I have no clue what I am doing. I woke up this morning with a big smile on my face and feeling really excited about meeting my little girl in a few months !

Congratulations sammysam!

LMB - it takes me forever to put my face on as I have so little practice but when this little bean wants to learn I'll send her over to you .

Devil - fingers crossed your exam went better than you felt. When do you get the results?

Flame - yah for scan date

SassJ - congrats on your new baby niece. The time till your scan will fly by - I found it dragged until the 12 week scan but went really fast to this one.

yay for sammysam's girl!

dh felt baby move at the weekend, i can see my tummy flicker when i get a big kick now too.

feeling tired, had my bsl exam last night and they put me second to last to go in. it was about 9 o'clock and my brain had completely switched off. felt like i didn't do as good as i could have but fingers crossed i passed.

idob when your baby gets here you won't be able to imagine having anything else! they just fit in with you, i promise

IDOB they could be braxton hicks. I've had them in my lower back. But only when i've been standing for a long time, like at work this weekend just gone!

Not own make up! I can't leave the house without my 'face' on! I look ill!

SassJ Congratulations to your sister! It will be lovely having children the same age.
My sisters are 7&9 years younger than me, so by the time they have children mine could be teens!

Thanks Calypso and LMB, I sure everything will be great when she arrives and, as you say, she doesn't have to be dressed in pink frilly dresses (thank god!). I just feel a little guilty I'm not more excited she's a girl.

Calypso - glad I'm not the only girl with very very limited make up! I have a foundation and one mascara to my name.

Quick question. I keep feeling twinges in my lower tummy - like little muscle spasms. Is that the baby? It's in the right place and I feel it a lot in the evening and when I'm in the bath. It's getting more frequent and does feel like little kicks and wriggles but it's not like the 'bubbles' people describe.

.............another girl ! Tis what everyone thought! We are not telling a soul though! DD was already convinced/wishing for a girl so she 'knows'!
Very happy to be having another girl, a boy would've been nice and different but it will be lovely to have 'my girls'!!!

I'm not a girly girl either-you just make encourage them to be like you!!!!

Congratulations Idream! Lots of girls on this thread now-next week must be turn for the boys!!

Very tired now-off to bed! Sorry if I've missed anything-will check in the morning!

Night all!

yay for good scans

Got my date through today - 29th May. DH is pleased because it is a day when he gets to skive of work for the scan (Thursday afternoons he gets off so he wasn't wanting that!)

Evenin' all!
Haven't posted for ages, but managed to keep up with everyone's news each day.
Very jealous of all the 20 week scans already happening. Am 18 weeks today, and my scan isn't for another 3 1/2 weeks - not sure I can contain my excitement that long, but guess I'll just have to!
Think I've felt the odd flutter these past couple of days - lovely feeling, and can't believe it's anything other than the baby.

Boobs have gone up from a 34E to a 36F, and although I don't mind the viens ('cause I know they'll go again), I'm not keen on the obvious stretching going on. Will they ever 'bounce' (sorry....) back?
Getting a headache that lasts 1 to 2 days every fortnight, but not too worried. Guess it's all the extra blood rushing around, much like all the bunged up noses that many of you seem to have. Aparently nose bleeds are quite common too at this stage, and am glad I don't have those.
That's about it from me really. Generally feeling very well, and really looking forward to the third trimester, shopping for all the new baby stuff (when we know what we're having). Even quite looking forward to the birth (someone remind me of that after the event!!).

My sister had her second today - little girl, Olivia (ahh). Contractions started at 11pm last night, she went to the hospital at 7.30am this morning and little Olivia popped out with 4 pushes at 9am this morning - how great is that?!

Ooh, long post, sorry.....
Big kiss to everyone and glad we're all going through the same stuff at roughly the same time, really helps doesn't it?!

Evening ladies.

So Sam....?!?!?!
Sorry you had a bit of a scare at the scan, glad its fine now though.

idreamofbeanie I COMPLETELY know how you feel. I was secretly wishing quite hard for a boy and had scan results its a girl. I'm sure that I'll love her to bits, but being a total computer / sci-fi nerd who likes nothing more than a good cross-country run through bogs, I'm slightly concerned if I have a really girly-girl... I mean I don't even own any make-up
I'm sure that there will be a million and one things that we'll enjoy together, but its been a bit tricky when people have asked and I've looked less than completely delighted when I say its a girl. Bad mummy already

She's kicking quite hard though (I can even see it, heh, bumping out of lower tummy!) so I think she'll be a good ultra trail runner

Unrelated: Star Trek at the IMAX wins at life

IDOFB Congratulations on your girl! I'll swap if i'm having a boy. To be honest i've got my heart set on a little girl, i've got two dresses already fgs. So if next Tuesday i find out i'm having a boy then i'll most likely feel like you are now. I love ds to bits and boys are fab, so much fun. But i have alaways seen myself having a little girl also. I think we will stop at two, as i want to do my teacher training when this LO is one and ds is at nursery.

Anyway you will get your head arround it and there is no need for your girl to be a all girly. I've got a friend who never dresses her girl in dresses or frills because its not her style. Her dd is gorgeous and it's refreshing to see a girl not head to toe in pink. Most Children want to be their parents anyway so i'm sure she'll enjoy what you enjoy too!

Come on Sammysam, don't keep us in suspense. Sorry you had such a stressful scan.

Girl sammy sam!?????

Hi everyone!

Princessmel-I have tried to answer the parvo questions-am very tired and to be honest don't know that much-ICBINB would be able to answer much better......

Almost had a heart attack at the scan......she started the scan and after a pause said 'have you felt any movements?' then around 30seconds of me not breathing (and it turns out her as well) when she looked around-no movement from baby and she couldn't see a heartbeat-I was about to pass out!!! Anyway then baby moved! All is ok-everything fine but GOOD GOD I was so scared!!!!
Have 8 lovely photos! Baby spent alot of time playing with its feet-very funny to watch! Saw a different consultant and will be having a scan every 4wks from now to keep an eye for any parvovirus complications-although all looks ok at the moment.

I'm really having trouble getting that episode out of my head now though. I really wish we had just gone in 1min later so I hadn't seen that. It is all I can think about and just wish I could get it out of my head

Anyway we were given an 85% chance of having a ..............

Hi all,

had my scan this afternoon and it was fantastic . The baby was swallowing fluid, sucking it's thumb and bouncing around all over the place. Everything looked good and is the right size which is a relief. Then she peeked between beans legs and she is 90% sure we are having

A GIRL!!! (as predicted by both of the gender site things).

I am a bit ashamed to admit I'm not as excited about that as I should be . I not disappointed at all but I am a tomboy and also have much more experience looking after little boys. I'm def better at the loud boisterous games - I play rugby, don't own a dress and refused to play with dolls as a child. I already love this little girl I just feel a bit less confident about being a mum to a wee girl than to a little boy. Mad I know ! Has anyone else ever felt like this?

Sorry for me me me post . Bit of a one track mind this evening.

I can join the 'big veiny boobs' club too. Don't mind having big norks but so not into the veins. Yuk. Not so sore anymore but still very sensitive nipples. There was a chilly wind today....ouch.

Have no idea about weight, I don't own scales, so I'll be intrigued to see how much I have or haven't gained when I go to my 20 week appt, which isn't till 28th May 'impatient emoticon'. I have been trying to eat well, although all these lovely cupcakes keep leaping onto my plate in the afternoons! Where do they come from I wonder.

The chinese chart says I am having a boy, so we will just have to wait and see. I think I'd like a boy.

sam I let my passport run out and totally forgot about it, only realised about three days before I was due to go on a mate's hen to Paris, when her very efficient bridesmaid sent a schedule round saying 'don't forget your passport!'. I had to leg it to the office in Victoria and pay through the nose for new one via the express service.

fidelma I get headaches too, so I take one paracetamol which always seems to help. Apart from that not too many nasty sideffects thankfully. Although I can't stay up much past 10.30pm.

treats isn't it lovely feeling the baby move. I keep getting all sorts of flicking and tickling sensations. I had a lot this moring during a meeting and it was hard to concentrate.

i also checked in for scan news

treats - how lovely to feel the baby move

Hi everyone.

Re: boobs. Mine grew a lot in the first few weeks, but have remained constant. They were SOOOO sore to begin with but are less so now. Do find that I get the occasional pain every now and then. I bought some special pregnancy bras and that helps a bit (although they're REALLY ugly) but I hate that I can't wear underwires any more.

RE: weight gain. Totally sympathise with everyone who's worrying about this. I've been weighing myself about once a week since about 10 weeks and think I'm staying within the limits so far. Trouble is, I don't think it's an exact science - some people will put on loads in one go and then nothing more, and others will put it on steadily as they go. It's no good telling me to eat a balanced diet with plenty of fruit and vegetables and not to worry (I do all of those things) - I get so hungry at lunchtimes I could eat my desk........

Think it's rubbish that people are being treated badly because of their weight . I can see that - statistically - there might be increased risks, but every patient should be treated as an individual, so if your pregnancy is proceeding normally, with no high blood pressure or whatever, then why should people continue to make an issue about it? Plenty of skinny people get pre-eclampsia. Having a general about pregnancy bossiness........

I've felt the baby move!! I didn't realise that's what I was feeling at first, but now I realise what it is. S/he's particularly active in the afternoons - it had a good squirm about just after lunch earlier. Feeling much better now. Hope everyone else is OK.

Any scan news!?.................

duh link

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/753962-Pregnant-but-toddler-has-slap-cheek-anyone-else-had-this?msgid =15401191

Those of you who have had experience with slapped cheek please can you advise this poster?

I spotted her thread earlier.

Thanks

smallone-have to agree. Ignore them. I'm 5ft and was 4 stone overweight last pregnancy but everything went smoothly. They might have had to prod deeper to find the heartbeat but so what!

I have a headache today and yesterday and am eating like a horse so piling on the pounds.

Don't know what my boobs measure as I'm normally 32D but am bursting out happy in my 34DD. Whoops! Have some bigger bras from last time so may have to dig them out. Incidently, as I didn't BF DD1 my boobs weren't much bigger when having DD2 (I was just bigger) but after BF DD2 my boobs do seem lots bigger this time. Never leaked milk first or last time so do you think it is likely I might this time and if so when?

Still waiting for my linea nigra line on my tummy-had one with both pregnancies.

Can't wait to hear news of scans and what the sex is.

Big wave to all!

HC
x

19+6

Good luck with scans today everyone

Sammysam - I think we'r going to find out the sex as well, I really don't think I can go another 20 weeks not knowing. Heck, I even read the end of a book after the first chapter-can't see me waiting for this suprise!

Smallone - Ignore the comments, you're an individual, not a statistic. My cousin was overwight and told all sorts of scare stories by midwives and consultant-she went on to have a great labour. Her v slim sister was not so lucky and had a horrendous time, baby was in SCBU for a while. You just need to keep as healthy as possible and a positive mental attitude.

Smallone please dont get upset about what people say or think, they arent worth the efford! Im 3 stone heavier this pregnancy than my first one and some people ( In-laws ) like to let me know. As long as we feel good in ourselves, then to hell with them. Honestly, your either to big or to small, there is no winning.

Ive just had 2 breakfasts again! Man I'm always hungry now....dreaming about pea & ham soup! lol....

Hi all,

fidelma I often get headaches, especially in the evening or at night. I have been taking paracetamol becauses if I don't, they don't go by themselves and just get worse.

I seem to be very tetchy at the moment and getting angry over little things. I was having major mood swings on saturday night. I was in the bath and one minute I was going on about how awful I looked , to dh. My huge, veiny boobs, fat (imo)arms and legs, yuk face etc. Then the next second I was laughing at how funny his hands looked! . I was nearly crying with laughter! Def hormones!!!
I snapped at the kids this morning too before school

Still no movements from baby.

Morning all,

ronniemummy I'm just hacked off that I'm treated like some sort of heffer that needs the fireservice to remove the side of my house to get to the labour ward! I'm half a stone heavier than with dd and no-one said anything about my weight then. Now its all, "we might need you to come in early to have an epidural put in just in case we can't get it in easily" - even though they managed fine for my em cs last time while I was having the mother of all contractions! grr.

My friends baby is doing really well, Mum has come home from the hosp and baby is expected to be in for a couple of months until she can feed on her own. But otherwise it sounds promising.

As for leaking, I'm ok so far, got piles tho JOY! Good idea about checking for infection, otherwise its squeeze, squeeze, squeeze about 500 times a day!

Morning everyone!!

Glad im not the only one with the leaking problems lol..thank god its only ever been in the house.

Ive been feeling sick today, with mild cramps & sore back. But the baby has been kicking the insides out of me & the bladder this weekend, so no wonder! Ive got MW appointment tomorrow so will ask then too. Ive also been getting bad headaches.

The last pregnancy i had, my boobs started at a D cup....I went up to an E cup & never went back down again! Really afraid at what im going to be this time round....going to breastfeed to see if that will make them disappear again!

Good luck with your scan today Sammysam, and dont feel bad about wanting to know the sex, its only normal really. I couldnt go for the next 20 weeks not knowing.

I cant remember anything else i wanted to say! Oh dear lol....

Good luck with all the scans today!

19 weeks today! Off to see the midwife at 10.15. Have a good day all!

Hi everyone!

So much to read!

Can't remember much except for the general gist!
Last time I don't think my boobs really changed at all-only a bit when my milk came in and they have stayed that size through 2.9yrs breastfeeding. They feel much fuller now and very tender (didn't get that last time) so maybe they will increase a bit this time? I was quite glad last time that they didn't-really doesn't sound very nice!

I think I put on around 2-2.5 stone last time-which I didn't think was too bad-dd was almost 9lbs. I weighed more to start with last time. Even though I have been far more ill this time I think I have put on quite a bit already maybe about 10lbs I wasn't too worried as last time I lost nearly all the weight in the first week and then a further stone and a half after that-which stayed off. This time I feel like i'm putting on more plus I'm a bridesmaid 6-8wks after dc2 is born so i'm quite worried

I still feel guilty about wanting to try and find out the sex at our scan today! I'm almost hoping that baby won't let them
I'm getting very excited about it! 3.45 today!

Had a major panic last night as DP thought my passport might have run out so went to find it and couldn't find it anywhere!!!! Found it a couple of hours later!!! Phew! Less than a week til holiday! Bought dd a trunki on sat-she LOVES it!

Flame it is really good to see you again

Feeling very sick still-great! Had a major headache all weekend-still there a bit today. Really hurts when I move

Congrats on the scans and genders! I did the 2nd predictor and it said girl for dd. It says girl for this baby if I put september but if I put october (which I think is more likely) it says boy Will have to see later!

Sorry for all the stuff I've forgotten!

Have a great day-good luck to others with scans today!

x x x

morning - been away for the weekend so need to mark this page to come back to later

hope everyone is ok and those with scans today "good luck"

mine is on Wednesday - can't believe it has gone so quickly

have good days and will be back later
x

I really must check spelling

morning all,
I have the leaking problem too but only if I am dying for the loo and cough etc

my boobs have grown out of control also , from a 34DD to a 36F at the moment, they just look stupid on my frame with lots of stares and comments from people, DH also loves them but same as you fidelma is warned to leave them bee

Flame glad your feeling better now
LMB your prediction chart got everyone I have ever known right, and sat like a mad women saying wow for a long time testing people

HC your chart got all mine wrong and predicted a boy this time.......scan on wednesday so soon find out (I hope!!!!)

20 weeks today and i feel this pregnancy is going really fast, cant belive i'm halfway there and after the scan i can buy things
good luck for scan's today ,have a fab day!

I'm having pelvic floor leakage when I am sick too Never had a problem before, was oddly proud of my sturdy pelvic floor

I've enjoyed catching up with you all.It sounds like we are all facing the same issues.Big boobs, weight gain,what sex is the baby.I often have a headache does anyone eles have this?

We visited great grandma this weekend.I took sandwiches otherwise she says to the children eat your cake and then you can have some shortbread,finnish that and I will give you sweeties!!!!

Then we went to mothercare.I bought babygrows and vests.I think this baby will live in babygrows and wee hand knitted cardies (thanks to Auntie)

I was at a concert last night.The next one is in Dec but I realised that I wouldn't be going as there will be a small baby at home.Then I thought about Christmas.I think I will need to shop this summer!!!

Hiya, just resting after a busy day - it feels like a Saturday. Bank holiday weeks always throw me out off kilter. Almost got whacked in the stomach by an idiot woman doing back stroke in a busy swimming pool-she didn't look where she was going. I only avoided her by pushing off for a length myself so she just nicked my elbow instead-then said I'd kicked her! What is it about certain people in pools? Its like they get lane rage. I love swimming but I'm v protective of bump these days-got kicked hard in the stomach in Dec by another lane rage swimmer-lifeguards saw it and went mad with her.Same JJB health club as well.

Both gender predictors say I'm having a BOY -thats kind of our gut feeling as well. My mum doesn't particularly like any of the names we are considering and so rings me every day with suggestions. Ha- may have found a way to stop it though- mentioned we were thinking of James T Kirk. Suddenly she doesn't think our chosen names aren't so bad

Calypso-congrats on finding out that you're having a girl

Flame Glad ypu're feeling a bit better today. My norks are huge now- were a happy 36/38D and now something like 42E. They feel like huge aliens strapped to the front of my chest. I am trying to go braless with a vest top as much as possible, simply because they hurt soo much. DH likes them but not fond of the "don't you dare touch them" scary looks from me!

LittlePea - yes, I have the same problem to a degree-lovely isn't it! I did go to the doctor when it was particularly bad and he ran a test-it came back positive for a uti. By the time the midwives redid the test the week after, it was fine again so didn't need antibiotics. Maybe something to bear in mind tho, esp if you get any pain with it.

Hi Smallone- wth my first had had a BMI of 36 and had numerous pointless meetings at the BMI clinic to check blood pressure and urine but this time BMI is the same I only seem to be having extra scans later on. I had a normal delivery without any extra assistance. So don't worry too much. I put on about 2 and a half stone with first- which was more down to a perchant for Pick n Mix- which i haven't eaten since!!! This time I have started at a similar weight as with first but so far have not put on a pound have had some nauseousness but not as bad as with DD1- but I guess I have not been eating choc like I normally do!!!
I am hoping to keep weight gain to a minimum this time and have joined a gym for a low impact programme devised by a Pre natal specialist.

Am 16 weeks today so a little behind everyone else!