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thought I'd start one off girls (and Salamander!)

Well, I've got my TENS machine and received my pool on Friday. Inflated it last night to test it and is now residing in the nursery ready for when I need it! Have left it inflated to save time, all DH has to do is carry it back downstairs!!! Seeing mw on Wednesday where I will state that I want a home birth. Got lots of questions for her so could do with a 1/2 hour slot instead of 10 mins!! DH wants to come as well but I kinda like seeing her on my own - how does everyone else feel about their partners going with them?

my hubby comes to most i like it that he is so involved my mw really appreciates hearing both sides of our preganacy

Sarahlou - Well done for starting a new thread! I wonder if this will be the last one before all the babies are born??
Salamander comes to all my appointments... I like having him there to remind me of things I wanted to ask and he enjoys hearing Alex's heartbeat etc. We really feel he needs to be involved as its half his responsibility. Just out of curiousity, why would you rather see your MW alone?

Pinktulips - At the baby shower I had at my house the other day there was a friend with a 12 week old baby. He spent time sitting in the bouncy chair we got for our Alex - it is the Mamas & Papas one from the Poppy & Mustard range - it vibrates and he loved it!!!! And he is not normally a baby that like to be set down. I was so pleased it got the seal of approval. I'm sure your baby will love it.

back from hospital baby went mad wen strapped to monitor was there two and a half hours have got to go back tomorrow for a scan thank god everything is ok

booby - glad all is ok.

PT - as a 6lb11 baby myself, (I'm only 5ft 2)I'm hoping that hteory is right!

What a weekend! spent Friday worrying that DH would come out of his anaesthetic ( extreme ,I know ) but all was fine. He was allowed home that evening, has had me fetching and carrying all weekend but seems ok. It's his knee that was 'done', so he has to do exercises etc but cant drive and wont be back at work till at least next week. i have found it stressful but since the original date he was told was the week the baby is due, I have to be grateful!!

hope everyone is ok.

eeny - baby shower sounds great - tell us abuot your presents!!

got to back ospital at 10 30 to see a consultant and have a growth scan to check fluids will fill you all in

hi to the mum of seven and eeny what a wonderful surprise well done salamander

Hope everything goes ok booby - let us know

booby - What is wrong? I must have missed the post when you told us. Whatever it is I hope everything is alright and let us know! Am thinking about you.

Olivo - the shower was great. I got... um... lots of adorable baby clothes!!!! a lovely blanket... a breast pump!!... a baby einstein mozart dvd... some cute little shoes & a little clip on toy...

I felt so lucky!! TOO lucky!

Ok prepare yourself for some unpleasant detail - I just went to the bathroom and there was a lot of blood. Like, period amount. I have had piles in this pregnancy so I am trying not to panic and just be sure it is that but I dont feel I can be sure. I am scared and dont know what to do really. Salamander is at work, if he were home I would have him take me to see the midwife but I dont drive. Baby was moving loads in the night and early morning, actually kept me awake, but he isnt moving now and I dont know if he is just asleep or is having problems. Anyway I am trying to stay calm. Does anyone who has had piles know if this is normal for them?

update - baby has started kicking a lot as per usual and there is no more blood so I am convincing myself it was piles. I just dont have a lot of experience of piles so I dont know if this is normal or not. But at the moment I am trying not to worry.

eeny - hope you are ok. dont have much experience of piles but i agree that the movement is a good thing. maybe phone the midwife and get some phone reassurance?

i'm finding the whole movement thing so worrying - booby, just saw your other thread, now it makes sense, hope everything ok with scan.

baby had a very quiet day on friday and saturday morning then suddenly started whacking me - i think i'd been so busy and running around after dh that i'd missed any movement.it was only once i sat down and relaxed i could feel it properly.

even today, it was going crackers during my staff meeting this morning but i've felt very little since, the odd squirm - i guess they count as a movement though.

Afternoon everyone, hope your all well!

Eeny ring midwife if your still worried chick as although it may be nothing its good to speak to the pro's and get reassurance.

Welcome and Congrats DreamyDopler, wow what a woman! 7 kids? My nan had 9 (would have been 10 but miscarried!) and my other nan had 6! Always thought I'd have big family too but probably started too late in life, hoping to go for 3 (mind you DH reckons we'll stick with 2?!)

Am off to see midwife in a mo! Will ask again what heartrate is and see how big my big baba is since last time. Also going to ask where my bloody bounty pack is? Have been told the midwife is supposed to give you one at your 1st appointment?? Never had one!

Also has anybody applied for the £300 maternity grant? Never heard of it myself but my MIL has given me a number to ring and they ask for your National insurance number and apparnelty every woman is entitled whether working or not? Will let you know as sounds too good to be true?

Did anybody else's baba go kick/roll crazy during the england game yesterday? Felt like it was lying sideways and doing rolls and kicks to my ribs! (DH says its a boy! lol)

34 wks today and feeling it!

Eeny...I have had piles in the past and they have bled especially after "going" but i only had a streak of blood, if you think there was alot then ring MW chick.

Boobylicious...I posted on your original thread, i am glad all went well.

BHM...The maternity grant only applies if you are on income support or high element of tax credits, your income has to be pretty low to get it i think.

I am ok, have got my consultant appointment tomorrow, about the size of baby and fluid levels will let you know how i get on.

xxx

Right, found you all!

How are you all? Anyone feel absolutely knackered but can't sleep? No matter what i try i can't settle and its driving me nuts.
Last day at work on Weds so am at home with ds for a few days til he starts new nursery for two weeks then he breaks up for summer! I'm going to be a wreck...

When do we bloom?? All i know is i'm blooming FAT!

Eeny, just checked your thread, i have severe piles and they can bleed quite a lot but you should call mw to get checked over. If anything to get some cream to shrink them! And if they bleed a fair amount it can help toward anaemia. Which i guess is my prob...

HTH

Eeny - I've just got piles as well (which I'm a bit p*ed off about because I didn't get them with no 1! . Although mine have never bled, sometimes they really hurt and feels like they are falling out (sorry if tmi). Anyway, like everyone else says go get them checked out with mw or doctor if you had a lot of blood.
BHM - would be interested if your info is correct and everyone entitled to it. I have just found out that I will be getting Maternity Grant as I finished work in January but have worked enough to receive it. This will probably be spent on the new arrival or put away for a family holiday next year (unless I see lots of nice things in the sales ).

Thanks everybody for your advice. I had decided not to call the mw but I think I am going to now.

BHM - our boy has kicked loads every football game we've watched!! I dont know if it is Salamander shouting or what!

well I found the MW who said it doesnt sound like piles because I am not in any pain etc. So she wants me to go to the labour ward at the hospital to be checked out. Ironically that is where Salamander is right now as he works there and he has to drive all the way home (30 mins) to pick me up and then drive me back there. I've been told to pack an overnight bag so you may not hear from me til tomorrow but I'll let you know when I get home!! I'm sure its nothing, just a weird thing. I think they are mainly concerned because I am RH neg.

Hope everyone else is having a good day!

Thinking of you eeny - hope everything is ok.

Hope all goes ok Eeny, thinknig of you hun. xxx

good luck eeny - let us know when yu're back.

incidentally, i had blood when i wiped (only on the paper) after going for a poo ( sorry TMI!) - it was a hard lumpy one . my bum didnt and doesnt hurt.is this piles?

Eeny - I hope you're doing okay. I don't think this will be our last thread before all the babies are born. I reckon it'll be nearly 9 weeks till I meet my little one, and we'll have an awful lot to talk about before then!

I heard it was the father's birthweight that was more relevant to baby's weight. Sorry if that turns out to scare anyone!

good luck eeny, hope everythings ok

i'm another that absolutely has to have dp with me at the hospital, gp doesn't bother me this time round coz its easier for him to take dd than us all to traipse down there and if the gp did find something dp is just 2 mins away at the house but i'd hate the thought of them finding anything wrong at the hospital and not having him there for support. plus due to low lying placenta i'm supposed to have an extra scan which he'd want to be there for but they never actually tell me which visit i'll get it on, could be sent for it any time i'm there.

Hi everyone! Hope you are okay eeny xxx

olivo have no idea about piles think they're meant to feel like peas in your bum????? If you don't have those guess that's not it!

I feel like a huge great lardy lump. Seven and a bit weeks to go, we've finally started moving bits around to fit this baby in, hopefulyl in the next day or two ds will move into his new room complete with bed and furniture!! Baby kicks a little but not a lot, I sleep well and mostly don't even get up to pee during the night (compared to 9 or 10 times a night with ds...) but I can't walk, don't know what the baby is pressing on but anything over about half a mile is agony....

PT, not entirely sure, think I was 6lb and dh 7lb.. ds was 7lb 14 lol

hi everyone

re piles they are often itchy and do feel like peas / grapes up your bum. sorry if tmi, but you can normally tell by feeling after you have had a poo ... if there are little bumps there, then you have prob got them. Use ice / piles cream & push them back in .... also cut out tea, coffee, soft drinks & stick to water & lots of fruit so that you keep regular ... sorry again if tmi .... luckily I don't have them so bad this pg but got them v bad last time.

as for brirthweight, I was 9lb, DH 7lbs9, my Dad was 10lb, DS was 10lb5oz. I am 5"4, usually 8 & 3/4 stone. Lord knows what I am now. Last time went up to 14 stone by 40 weeks. Don't bother weighing myself now!!!

Hello all, sorry i haven't been on for a while, wanadoo is crap! Sounds like we are all experiencing the further joys of pregnancy!! Went to hosp last week as had major lower stomach cramps, a show of some description and this happened at about 2 in the morning, DH pissed still from England playing night before so have now barred him from drinking. Nothing came out of the hosp visit just that the hospital very understaffed and i was knackered(although was brill listening to bambino for an hour!) oh and i really needed to get an hospital bag and a bit more organised choice as to what i would take with me! Poor kid wouldn't have had a thing if he had been born!

No piles yet ladies (touch wood) and boobs still not re-inflated! xx

hmmm, don't think it is piles then, no 'peas' or bumps to be felt - phew!might mention at my appt this afternoon.
just heard that the first girl in my antenatal class - i was with the due in july mums, she was due this weekend - has had her baby; makes it all seem so real!

quiet day for my baby today so looking forward to hearing it on the sonic later. doesnt seem to like mornings!

sorry tothear about people having scares - hope everyone is ok x

booby - everything ok yesterday?

Hi! Thanks everyone for your well wishes!

Well it's a good question about whether or not it can be piles if you don't have any pain or any lumpy bits. That is the question we are asking!

Was at the hospital last night til almost midnight and all they could work out was that the blood was coming from my bottom - but I do not have any pain or lumpy bits so it COULD be internal piles, maybe, or it might be something totally different. Either way they probably wont be able to work it out til after the baby is born and hopefully by then it will have resolved itself anyway.

The best bit was they had me strapped up to a fetal monitor for ages and had Salamander weilding the scanner - he loved it!! He had to move it around as Alex moved to follow his heart beat. The midwife said she did believe the thing about heart rate detecting sex - she said a boy at rest would be about 120 and a girl higher... I cant remember what she said a girl would be.

But Alex was about 150-170 most of the time - when Sal or I talked to him it dropped to 130. It was so much fun!! He was really hyper though and kicking loads. I had a clicker I had to click each time I felt him move and I was practically holding it down!

glad everythings ok eeny, lucky you getting to hear him on the monitor for so long, had one on the whole time i was in labour with dd and it was so lovely hearing her heart beating away, well it was until everything went haywire and her heart practically stopped but that a whole other thread!

Afternoon everyone hope your all well!

Sounds like you & Sal had fun with your little Alex last night Eeny? Very !!! Glad to hear your ok and its nothing serious!

Went to midwife yesterday and am sure she measured me wrong? She has measured my fundal height at 36cm and 2 weeks ago it was 32cm? How can that be? She said they need to keep an eye on it as I may be referred to a consultant for a growth scan and if turns out to be big baba I'll be induced earlier than due date!!??? Really dont think she measured me properly though and she couldnt even find where the head was? She was prodding me for ages and still coudlnt tell me baby's position! Started saying that my belly was not all baby as I was a plump lady (Cheeky git!) and then said I must call them if I get dizzy, itchy, sick or really thirsty? Christ was she trying to shit me up or what? I'm not worrying though as havent felt any of the above and think she was over-concerning herself tbh. Heartrate was 140bpm so still could be either boy or girl I think!

Snowboo, I know how your feeling chick, I cant seem to get comfy at night and truning over is a nightmare, getting out of bed is even worse, feel so stiff and achey, my left buttock is killing for some reason not sure if I've pulled a muscle but its making me waddle to the max. Lying on my back with loads of pillows doesnt seem to be working any longer either. felt loads of kicks during the night so looks like baba is getting ready for the real world lol

Thanx for info on Mat grant Pucca, my MIL is adamant that every mother gets it? May just give them a ring to shut her up! lol. Will let you know Sarahlou once I find out!

Olivo, you saying about the girl who's just had her baba, I've been chatting to some other local girls on here for few months now who are at the same hospital as me. One was due in June and other in July, they have both had their babies over the weekend so I'm only one left! Does make it feel real and not too far away! How exciting!

We are having wardrobes delivered, sky installed and picking up our new 'family-saloon' car this week, its all happening! Then all I'll have left to do when I break up is wash the baba stuff and get my hospital bag/birth plan prepared! Anybody else done their birth plan yet? Wasnt going to but may do a simple and basic one for back up!


Crikey its another essay, sorry so long (again!)

PinkTulips - Sounds like your DD's birth was eventful!! Glad it worked out alright!

BHM - That is strange about your MW! I'd be annoyed if mine had said that plump comment. I guess they figure they can say what they want! It is strange that she couldnt find the position though. I wouldnt worry - she sounds a little strange!

I find when I am lying down, sitting up is really hard! You use your tummy muscles for that and they are just too complicated right now.

I am going to try to get my birthing plan written up this week - last MW appointment I asked all the questions I needed answers to so now I just have to write it all down. There is so much to do, I am spending too much time on MN!

Anyone else feeling really low and miserable?

Can't seem to cheer myself up. Poor ds keeps coming over and cuddling me and rubbing my belly, have to keep reassure him he is being an absolute angel today.

Doesn't help when the bloody dog has taken to pooing in the house overnight. Wee i can kind of deal with but this???? Poor dh came down this morning to piles of it (sorry tmi) and when i popped up the shop for yet more disinfectant (at the top of my road i might add) came home to yet more poo! Wouldn't mind but she goes for long walks, has a big garden to play in and is spoilt rotten and this is how she repays me. Anyone want a dog??
Or where can i advertise her? Loathe to take her back to Battersea but i really can't keep her anymore. Its too much with ds and baby on the way.

God, all i seem to do is whinge! Off to pull myself together.

Eeny...So glad all was ok with LO Have been thinking about you and have kept checking to see if there was any news

BHM...It would be fab if we all got the maternity grant, but i am pretty sure it is just for low income unfortunately.

I have been to see consultant today, and felt like a freak show! the MW called in a couple of other MW's and then 2 consultants came in too, to feel my tummy! All saying "she is only 32 weeks", anyway i have a scan booked for 10 am tomorrow so will let you all know how i get on.As i said before i don't think the size really matters as i am having a section anyway, just means i will be like a hippo for another 6/7 weeks lol.I am glad i don't have many newborn clothes anyway, i have bought mostly 0-3 as i was similar with dd, she wasn't in newborn long at all!

Hope all is ok with everyone else?

SnowBoo - I have been feeling really down as well lately, although I have cheered up at times it's been hard getting there. I'm sure it's hormones! Hope you feel better soon. Hope we both do!

Pucca - Thanks so much for checking on us I cant believe they were all making such a fuss about the size of your bump! Let us know how it goes at the scan! How big was your DD when she was born? Sorry I know you've said before but I can't find it.

Snowboo...I know how you feel hun I have just picked myself up, as i was feeling very down last week, and it doesn't help having a LO already to chase around after, oh the joys of the 1st pregnancy when you can rest when you want etc...

I also kinda know how you feel about your dog, when i was 38 weeks pg with my dd my cat ended up with something wrong with her, where poo leaked out of her bum constantly (sorry tmi!) all i did was clean up cat s**t ( which i know you are not suppose to do)i ended up sobbing! especially as it was over xmas and my vet didn't want to know! On my hands and knees scrubbing for like a week! it was vile!I would clean it up, then there would be more yuck! I think the dog will be too much for you to deal with, if it keeps pooing in the house all the time.

Eeny..She was almost 9lb, but they all saying this one gonna be much bigger <<gulp>> lol

Can anyone believe there is a Due in March thread!! Good god, it doesn't seem 2 mins since we were the new thread, scary! lol

Snowboo, I know how you feel as our dog had a booster injection few weeks ago and shat everywhere in the house starting with my feet as I sat on the toilet, it stunk the whole flat out and made me & DH heave, she must've had an upset stomach! As he was cleaning it up she did it in the kitchen and the hallway luckily not ont he carpet! cleaning it up is one thing I hate but the smell is even worse! I couldnt bend down either as my bump just wont allow me to - used half pack of baby wipes then loads of dettol! YUk sorry if tmi everyone! Just can relate to Snow's experience! I could have cried that night.

I think at this stage of pg we all get a bit fed up especially not being able to move around very well and not sleeping is horrid! I just keep counting those weeks down and thinking in 6 weeks time I will be able to breathe again, my ankles will have bones again, and the heartburn will dissapear! Does anybody else tell their bump to stop kicking mommy? I sometimes get bit frustrated when it doesnt stop for an hour solid! Feel guilty afterwards tho !

Eeny, that midwife who made that comment is bigger than me would you believe?? Its just a good job I have got sense of humour and can laugh it off!

Pucca, when my midwife said that to me yest they had the door wide open when measuring my fundal height and another midwife popping in and out, she had got my pants halfway down and anybody could have walked right past! midwifes eh! Dont ya just luv'em!

BHM...pmsl @ you saying shat!! not heard that word for so long, just had a giggle

Pucca I was gonna put the dog splat shat but sounded bit gross! lol.

supposed to be tidying up while dp has taken dd out of my hair for a few mins but can't physically keep bending to pick up bl*dy crayons and pencils, and the tile floor is to hard for my poor swollen legs to crawl around on. grrrr i get so frustrated at this stage.

poor Snow, that dog sounds like a nightmare, our cat was a nuisance when i was pregnant with dd too, he peed on the bed more times than i can count but reserved pooing for the bathmat for some inexplicable reason, idiot thing was damn near evicted! he's been remarkably well behaved since we moved to a bigger apartment and hes not allowed upstairs though... go figure! hope your dog starts to behave himself so you don't have to get rid

Thanks ladies. Feel better knowing i'm not the only one with a PITA pet!

Had a little cry earlier which has helped a little and ds wouldn't let me get him ready for bed, he tried to find everything and made me lay down on the bed so he could look after me.

Dh on the other hand.....is asleep on the sofa after saying he would be up to help 2 hrs ago. Lazy sod.

Hey ho. Well at least its my last day at work tomorrow!!! Yippee! Can't wait to get out of there and take a year off. Will i miss it??? I think not.

Pucca, they keep telling me i'm in for a biggie baby as he is two weeks bigger than his dates. By their record. By mine he is spot on. Why oh why don't midwives listen to the mother???? Good luck with the scan.

Eeny, how are you feeling now? Glad you got yourself checked over. (Says she who is in agony and refuses to call mw!)

hi ya sorry was reallly down yesterday so stayed out the way

scan went well had a very thorough but impersonal sonographer and a random consultant and was left feeling v releived but fed up with there attitude felt i was a time waster think as well was emotional as my dh couldnt get hold of his boss to come with me

apparently according to scan baba isnt that big but consultant agreed with me emasuring 34weeks and im 32 today so who knows

had my first antnatal class today there was 14 women and 4 dads and we get three two and a half hours sessions not very impressed to be honest everything that was stressed deemed to be about saving money for the nhs which made me mad

sal im wondering if this is normal through out the nhs

hope evryone is well glad to know your ok eeny do you feel better for actually being in a labour suite coz i know i do now

by the way sick of footy any one else

Booby - I was sick of football BEFORE it came on the tv!!!
Re antenatal classes - I haven't bothered this time around as it's my second but first time, we decided instead of doing sessions, we would do a full day (my dh works shifts so we couldn't make it every week). I remember it being January/February and in a very cold room. We were shown lots of videos and pictures but didn't cover the actual basics that mums need - ie., breathing, went to pant etc. Felt very let down and that was 3 years ago now! On the actual day, I just listened to my body and this got me through.

to football!! soooooo bored of it!
just had a really embarrassing parents evening at school where the baby decided to leap around loads adn i must have been pulling all sorts of faces at the poor parents - they'll never take me seriously again!!

sorry to hear some of you are having hassles, hope everyone is feeling ok now. went to the docs today and all ok so far, measuring normal too despite all the 'is it imminent?' comments I keep getting!

can't stop eating - chunky kit kat anyone?

Not into chunky kitkats but just scoffed a HUGE bar of Galaxy all by myself!

just starting on the lemonade sparkle ice lollies.....

Ooohhh - I used to love these! Plus Orange Maid ice lollies - lovely and orangy!!!

Pringles will be my downfall.

Morning ladies, hope your all well!

I've just noticed my fingers have slightly swollen aswell as my ankles? All the skin on my hands feels a bit tighter than normal! Weird!
Also got a bit of a rash on top of my bump? Its not itchy or anything and the red spots are under the skin so not too worried! Anybody else got this? Oh and my bump has got mega hairy over the last few weeks - is this a sign of a boy I wonder?

Booby, I'm bit sick of the footy at the moment but as of yesterday we now have Sky so sent DH off to the bedroom for future matches while I'm watching the birthing channels - FANTASTIC!!!

Used to be really into Pringles but they give me heartburn at the moment so chocolate and ice cream and milk are at top of my list at moment...

saltn vinegar discos pringles hula hoops and mc coys i love it gone off sweet stuff completely now

weather is awful and got to go dentist later can you get braces on the nhs my teeth are terrible as a vain teenager i refused them might ask
lol

mr.Freezes... or rather their cheap aldi counterparts! and ice, and hot chocolate, quite often all in the one sitting! just don't seem interested in proper food anymore, was the same towrds the end with dd.

any of the other second and third timers finding themselves comparing symptoms with their other preganacies? i'm constantly saying things like 'well i definitely didn't get this til the last month with dd'. going to drive myself mad! it's not even like i want baby to come early, want to enjoy the last of the time i can spend with just dd and spoil her a little first.

Hi everyone, sorry not been on the computer for a couple of days as it is now up in the attic and although I don't mind climbing the ladder to come up, getting down really freaks me out, so I've not been using the computer as much!
My baby also seems to enjoy the football, but then, so do I! Sounds like I am one of the few August girls who does.
Am not feeling too bad apart from the swollen ankles, feet, legs, hands, face, bottom...did have a craving for fish last week but this week it's ice-cream. Not chocolate or vanilla, things like mint, toffee, or frozen yoghurt!
eeny, glad you are OK and whoever else had a scare, sorry, I can't remember who it was--BHM maybe?
Am now 'working' on my last article before the baby but can't be bothered doing anything so am catching up with mumsnet instead!
Will this be our last thread? It might be mine, what with baby coming 27 July at the latest, and all.

Hi everyone!! Hope you are all doing well. I'm fine - I got a maternity dress we bought off ebay and a P&B mag in the post today so I am pretty happy about that! Haven't tried the dress on yet so I am still nervous it wont fit but I will try it on after I post. Cross your fingers for me!

Booby I'm sorry you've been feeling down. I can relate, really. Ask Sal I have been a nightmare to be around lately. He is in meetings all day so he hasnt read the board about yet but I'm sure he will be on here later. Being in the labour room was nice but didnt help me too much as it isnt where I am booked in to have the baby - it's where I will be sent if there are any complications! So here's hoping I won't be there.

SnowBoo - I feel alright I guess, I am still bleeding (a little bit) and have been since day before yesterday. It might be a fissure and not internal piles and Sal spoke to a woman at his work who had the same thing when she was pregnant and she had to have an operation after the baby was born to fix it. I am really hoping it just resolves itself!!!

I know I have read the whole thread since my last post but I just can't get my head around what I meant to say back to everybody! Sorry I'm not trying to ignore anyone! I feel a bit dazed and confused today tbh so I am not quite with it.

Arabica - I enjoy watching football but we only watch the England matches (we were watching USA too but they are out now) so I haven't had to watch more than a few... And I want frozen yoghurt too!! Do they sell it at Sainsbury's? I havent looked yet but I want to go get some.

eeny as a fellow non worker are you bored and impatient i could climb the walls today please tell me you feel the same

YES booby I am!!!

Firstly I cant wait for the baby to come. Secondly I am bored. I want some company!! Too bad we dont live near each other we could hang out.

i'm going to strangle my landlord one of these days

every few months he rings me and announces i owe him some mad amount of money, then realises he's wrong and pisses off til a few months from now when he'll do the same thing all over.

every time he does this i have to haul out all my receipts and wade through them just to make sure i'm right and it's pissing me off now. he just did it again today and when i told him politely to piss off he's wrong he got all confused and said he'd check again and ring me in a while a monkey could keep accounts better than this man!

he did it the week before xmas last year.. rang and announced we owed him 2500, then wandered up to me outside the apartment after christmas and said 'oh, its alright i found it!', found what? 2500 euros just lying around that he hadn't noticed before!

sorry girls, completely un preg related but i'm in a rage about it and dd, dp, and the cat are all asleep on the couch so have no-one to rant to in rl!

hello ladeez, I'm new to this site but as i'm on fat leave at last probably will be looking in often, I'm expecting my first bambino August 12th, feel like a whale, ankles like ham shanks, a gullet which burns like the fires of hell and generally getting my head around the fact that i need to stop worrying and start getting excited about the most brilliant thing ever!!!

hello bumble! do you know whether your having a boy or girl yet?

No, really want a surprise, although it was a surprise enough getting preggers at 42 and having thrown in the towel long ago!! all my friends are having beaut little girls but hand on heart although the clothes are cute I'm not bothered as long as 'he' is ok...You??

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Purpleturtle ______________ 13/08/06
YellowFeathers ____________ 13/08/06 __ Boy
Lockets ___________________ 14/08/06
Trix1 _____________________ 15/08/06
2labs _____________________ 15/08/06
Sarahlou1uk _______________ 16/08/06 __ Girl
Babylily __________________ 18/08/06 __ Girl
claire7676 ________________ 18/08/06
lunavix ___________________ 19/08/06 __ Girl
Katylou25 _________________ 20/08/06 __ Boy
Pucca _____________________ 20/08/06 __ Boy
Ronniemummy _______________ 21/08/06
hoppybird _________________ 21/08/06
BunnyGirl _________________ 22/08/06
Jayjaybaby ________________ 22/08/06 __ Girl
Eppifany __________________ 23/08/06
Strike1 ___________________ 24/08/06
Olivo _____________________ 24/08/06
yummymummy82 ______________ 24/08/06
Snic ______________________ 26/08/06 __ Girl?
noodlekitkat ______________ 26/08/06
SenoraPostrohe ____________ 28/08/06
micromum __________________ 30/08/06
Micku5 ____________________ 31/08/06 __ Girl
muminaquandry _____________ 01/09/06
eenywifemum and Salamander __ 01/09/06 __ Boy (Alexander)
dreamydowler ______________ ?

47 babies!

hope i haven't missed anyone, did reamydowler give us a due date yet?

have a little girl already and amn't planning on having more so a boy would be nice, and my dad is convinced 'he' is but not overly pushed either way, little girl would be easier as i'd be sorted for clothes!

Rant away Pinky, we all need somewhere to let it all out and MN is the place! He sounds like a right tw@t!! That would do my head in for sure! cant you ignore his calls lol?

I do love watching the footy when its England but my DH insists he has to watch every single match! (yawn!)

34+3

2 weeks left at work

Hiya Bumble welcome to the madness! I'm having a surprise too although swaying towards a boy more than a girl for some reason? As long as its healthy I dont mind what we're having!

Thanks Pinktulips for doing another list! There are so many babies!!! Wow! Also I am really sorry about your landlord. What a stupid man. That must be so frustrating!

Hi Bumble and welcome to the board! Congratulations!

BHM I meant to tell you earlier... I have a very good friend who is also my next door neighbour and landlady! We were out for a coffee yesterday and she said (for the millionth time) that I am a VERY LARGE PERSON. She has said this to me since before I was even pregnant. She is really petite and thin. I am 5'6" and a size 14 so I am not THAT big!! She says things like that to me a lot - she's really lovely but really posh and has no tact. I really wanted to hit her because I am feeling so insecure about how I look and my weight right now. What makes people think they can just say these things??

I am 30 + 5!

PinkTulips - that is QUITE SOME LIST

Hi Bumble, congratulations! 40-something mums rock. Am 44 myself. (but v immature). LOL at your swollen bits--my feet are like sofa cushions!
Eeny, I think they do sell frozen yoghurt at Sainsburys--can you get me some whilst you're there, please! Your neighbour sounds a bit tactless. Am 5ft 7ins and wearing 16-18 maternity clothes so she'd probably think I was some kind of giant freak person.

Hi, sorry to crash like this. I'm due in August too so is it okay if I join your party? I already have a little girl (21 months)and am utterly exhausted! DD woke up screaming last night at 12 and it took me a long, long time to calm her down, somehow the little sweetheart still managed to wake up at 5 this morning though. Anyone else trying to cope with toddler plus bump?

Welcome Bean! Whats your EDD and do you know what your having?

Eeny I'm 5ft 6" and am inbetween a size 16-18, people just think they can say what they like about your weight when your pg but I dont really care just think if roles were reverse I wouldnt dare tell anybody they are plump oir a big girl? I think its rude and especially when they arent skinny themselves, would love to have something to say back to them to see their reaction but just cant be arsed!

Talking about swollen bits...has anybody bits down below seem swollen? Sorry if tmi but I noticed on the toilet earlier that they seem either swollen or enlarged? (very kebab like??)
Not sure if this is normal am i a freak?

Hey Bighotmama! I'm with you on the swollen bits! try this \link{http://www.franklypregnant.com/askarchives.html}
The site calls this oh so pleasant condition 'cheeseburger crotch'! I'm thinking I may start a whole new thread on embarrassing pregnancy problems
BTW EDD 26th

Welcome Bean! I don't have a toddler, this is my first baby, but I sympathise!

Arabica & BHM - thanks for sharing my outrage. She has said things like that to me even before I got pregnant - I love her so much I let her get away with it but it does hurt as I am pretty insecure about that sort of thing.

My cat who is HUGE just spent ages trying to sit on top of my bump while I was sitting on the sofa! Cute!

BHM - meant to say I havent had this (yet) myself but I have heard swollen bits are really normal - if not nice!

ummm so guess that link didn't work, I'll try again.
pregpantsprobs

I have come to the conclusion that people are pretty clueless about your pregnant size (unless of course they are exactly as pregnant as you in which case may have a valid opinion ) I have been told by different people that I look "tiny for this far along" (must be undernorishing the little fella then!) and that I "must be having twins" (just a big fattie then!) These fairly standard quips were said within minutes of each other . I think people just want something to say to you sometimes, though why it can't be 'wow you look really lovely/glowing/sexy etc' who knows!

Oh, and I'm having a little lad this time around.

Well my poor dog is seriously ill. She has had injections and we will have to go back tomrrow morn to see if she has to go into intensive care. So i feel really bad now.

But she still needs to find a new home if she pulls thru. Anyone got a sweet old gran who needs some company??

Oh and hi to beanandboo and bumble!!

Snowboo, really sorry about your dog, i did have my concerns when i read your earlier posts - good luck it sounds like she needs it..
thanks also for the welcomes, i've had such a laugh with eeny's sinister landlady neighbour sketch, what a beaut!! - and the cheesburger crotch, i take it this is a visual reference rather than an odourous one.. (sorry) I was advised ages ago to not be tempted to take a mirror to your bits when preg or just after birth - and so far i have stuck to it. Things down there are just a little 'different' but should spring back afterwards, ( I live in hope )

SnowBoo I am so sorry about your dog! I hope she is alright. If you need to rehome her then you should try posting in Pets, someone there may be able to help. Good luck!

bumble glad you are happy here on August - we can talk for England here!

beanandboo - I have had exactly the same thing, some people think I'm tiny for 33 wks, others insist I am huge...

Snowboo - sorry to hear about your dog, hope she pulls through. Must be stressful for you. Why does she need a new home? If you are def. rehoming her, if you got her from Battersea you might find in your papers that they stipulate you must give her back to them. Otherwise best to rehome through a specialist site like this where you can get help, or another reputable rescue who will be able to homecheck any new owner. General/free ads are not a very safe way to rehome dogs esp if you're not in a position to check people out.

Well, I'm bang on 33 weeks today and seen my mw this afternoon. She says I'm measuring fine but baby is breech and have I considered that if she stays that way, I won't get a home water birth! I said surely she's got plenty of time to turn in 7 weeks!! MW just hummed and said if she hasn't turned by 37 I've to go to hospital and they will try and turn her! Not too keen on that idea! Anyone got any ideas for encouraging baby to head downwards? I can't remember at what stage ds turned but I'm pretty sure it wasn't this early! Do you think she was trying to frighten me as she doesn't fancy the idea of attending a home water birth? DH says take no notice - we'll worry about other options when we are running out of time. A lot can happen in 7 weeks! It just got me so mad as when I have seen her before, she has been pushing me for a home birth!!!!!

Hi ladies,

Big Hot mama, swollen 'front' bottoms are awful. Try to rest with your legs up & try not to strain on the loo. I started taking linseeds everyday, which means hardly any straining. My swollen bits seemed to transfer across (I've suffered with piles throughout this pregnancy) & I ended up with a thrombosed external pile. Absolultely awful -would hate that to happen to anyone else.

On the note of measuring small, I am 34 + 6 & measuring 31/32 cm (baby moved) I'm booked to see the consultant next Thursday. Did have a private scan last Fri which confirmed everything ok, but haven't let on to MW. See what the consultant has to say. I'm 5 ft 3 & weighing 9st 9lb, & I think this baby probably has my genetics. DD takes after her 6ft 3 inch dad & was 7lb 4 oz & born a week early.

sarahlou1uk, have you tried accupuncture ? or else there is a chinese medicine cure where candles are put between your toes...does have a good success rate (!)

I've seen them try to move babies on the TV...wouldn't want to try it myself...you wouldn't prefer a c-section ?

No Mojo - c section would mean me having to stay in the house for 6 weeks as there is no driving allowed which would lead to further complications, ie., taking ds to school (not to mention driving me up the wall!!). Plus the idea of going for a home birth means that I don't have to make arrangements for ds to go and stay elsewhere which I don't think would happen! He would only get upset as my dh works shifts so it's left to me to sort ds out.

accupuncture it is then !

Hi everyone, lots of posts today haven't had the chance to read it all yet, will do in a min

Well i had my scan today and the baby at 32 weeks should weigh about 3.5 - 4 lbs, mine is weighing 6.7lbs already!! So if he carries on track as what he has up to now, they estimate he will be about 10lb 7oz - ish i have to see consultant again on Tues, don't really know why, and will probably have another scan in a couple of weeks to check the weight again.

Oooh snap sarahlou1uk! I'm planning a home birth (my 2nd) possibly in water but not sure about that bit yet! Have you looked at the homebirth reference site, there's a good bit called "you can't have a home birth because..." and then lists useful advice for countering unencouraging medical professionals. I'll post the link if you want. Some midwives are able to try to coax a baby round maybe you could contact you community midwife supervisor for help if your current midwife isn't very supportive?

Just a thought have you tried any optimal positioning techniques. Tend to be used in the last month or so but basically involve spending time on all fours or leaning over a birthing ball etc rather than reclining on the sofa. Not sure how helpful it would be for breech babes though...

Thanks for the websites for doggys. She is a bit better but had to be carried to and from the park today. MIL has her at hers as i can't face another morning of mess. And it was like nothing on this earth!

She's a lovely little dog but very naughty and just doesn't understand she can't wee in the house. So besides her being poorly we come down every morning to some surprise or another. We've had her from 3 months and she is now 3 years. We've tried behaviourists, books, classes and puppy training pads but shes a bit on the stupid side. And my reason for not wanting to take her back to Battersea is the thought of her in a cage scared and alone. Rather try to find a nice older couple thru a friend or recommended website. Oh, and she bosses ds about, sometimes terrorises the poor love!

Eeny, how are you today?

Sarahlou - I hope your baby turns around. Our was breech but when I was in hospital the other night they told me he had turned. Most do so take comfort in that!

Pucca hon I'll be thinking about you and your big baby! Poor thing!

SnowBoo - I'm alright thanks, how are you? The bleeding has slowed down although not stopped altogether. At the moment I am just stressing over how much I have yet to do! I'm about to go on our old thread to read Yellow's birthplan for inspiration in writing mine!

Does anybody else feel tempted to pay privately for Group B Strep? My best friend in America had it (they screen for it routinely over there) and I just know how grateful they were to know. Salamander is pretty adamant he wants me to be tested.

Sarahlou, mine was breech at 32 wks and has now turned (I'm 35wks today), not that it needs to bother as it's going to be an elective C-section, but just so you know you have plenty of time.

Hello beanandboo and welcome, when are you due?

Hi All and welcome to the new members!

I'm still finding it impossible to keep up with what is going on with you all but thought I'd better post an update or it'll be too late!

I'm 35+1 with the twins and all is going well.

Plenty of scans for growth etc, but nothing much to see now that they're getting a bit crowded in there. On the size issue/comments, I'm a big person (6'1" and over 100kg when not pg), and even though I've got twins on the way, I don't really look that big.

So here's me waddling around the office with my (not-as-big-as-you'd-expect) bump, when a colleague says to me (in front of the whole office) "Have you lost weight?" I know what he meant (I am the same weight now as on my MW booking in day), but even I had to LOL it was such a dumb thing to say.

Thankfully I finished work on Friday but getting a bit bothered about the amount of time left (or lack thereof).

Good news at my last scan - the breech twin has turned, so they are both head down and very low (they couldn't even get a head measurement they were too low), so I am pushing for a normal birth (pardon the pun!).

Mine could be here in as little as three weeks, but I do hope they stay in there at least until my mum arrives from Australia (13th July). The hospital did suggest a CS at week 37-38, but I don't want it unless I have to.

I don't know how much say I will have in the end, but I figure if I don't resist they will just do it their way and I'll regret not saying something.

Hi,

I haven't read all the new messages yet, but wanted to post the Birth Plan Salamander and I just wrote.
Your thoughts would be appreciated...

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Birth Plan for Eeny, Husband and Baby
EDD 1st September 2006


• I would like to have a water birth. I would prefer the baby to actually be born in the water.
• I understand that during a water birth gas and air is the only pain relief option for me.
• I am happy for a student midwife to be present during my labour and delivery although I would like a senior midwife experienced in water births to do the actual delivering.
• I would like the option to listen to a CD of my choice if I wish to.
• In the event of the baby being breech and a necessary transfer to St. John’s I would like to deliver him by caesarean with an epidural – not a general anaesthetic if possible.
• I would like to touch the baby’s head as it crowns and if I have a hand mirror to try to see it as well.
• Salamander would like to cut the umbilical cord after it has stopped pulsing.
• I would like to be present at the weighing, cleaning and Agpar of the baby.
• I would like vitamin K to be given to my baby via injection.
• I would appreciate it if a midwife would take a few pictures of me, Salamander and baby after the birth.
• I would prefer not to use Oxytocin unless it is deemed necessary by the midwife.
• I would like for myself and Salamander to be able to see and touch the placenta before it is removed.
• I would appreciate a midwife’s assistance with helping my baby breastfeed immediately after birth.
• I would like to stay with Salamander and the baby overnight at WJC.


I understand that this expresses my wishes for the delivery, and that circumstances could necessitate a change. I feel very confident that the midwives at WJC can advise me if there are any complications that would mean an alteration to this plan. I would like to thank you in advance for helping me, my husband, and baby to have a birth experience that we will remember with happiness and love.

preparingfor2 - I hope you can have the birth you want!! It's great that they are both head down, I heard that with twins it's really common for one to be breech! I forget, do you know the sexes of your babies? I guess you can't know if they are identical or fraternal twins until after they are born?

eeny - I am going for the group b strep test... be interesting to see if my midwife has anything to say about it when I go for my next appt. I've already got the testing kit and my plan is to do it myself at 35 wks and just get the results sent to her.
I like your birth plan - gave me a couple of ideas to put on mine (haven't started yet).

2labs - I am going to talk to my midwife about the group B thing on Tues at my next appointment as I can't make up my mind about whether or not we should do the test. Glad you like the birth plan! I looked at a few to get ideas and they are all so different - like births I guess! Because I am aiming for a water birth there isnt too much to add... you know I am just supposed to get in the pool and push!

PreparingFor2 ____________01/08/06 Twins
Act _____________________ 02/08/06
Arabica __________________02/08/06 c/s booked 27/07/06
Fortnight ________________02/08/06
Freddysays ______________ 02/08/06 Boy
mojomummy _______________ 02/08/06
Boopert _________________ 04/08/06 Boy
Bobley __________________ 05/08/06 Boy
Bighotmama ______________ 07/08/06
PinkTulips ______________ 09/08/06
AGJ _____________________ 10/08/06 Girl
Cheeps __________________ 10/08/06
Burstingbug _____________ 10/08/06 Boy?
Webchick ________________ 11/08/06
Bumble10 ________________ 12/08/06
Melsy ___________________ 12/08/06
Kitegirl ________________ 12/08/06 Boy
BabiesEverywhere ________ 12/08/06
Frodofitz _______________ 12/08/06
aprilgirl _______________ 13/08/06
Purpleturtle ____________ 13/08/06
YellowFeathers __________ 13/08/06 Boy
Lockets _________________ 14/08/06
Trix1 ___________________ 15/08/06
2labs ___________________ 15/08/06
Sarahlou1uk _____________ 16/08/06 Girl
Babylily ________________ 18/08/06 Girl
claire7676 ______________ 18/08/06
lunavix _________________ 19/08/06 Girl
Katylou25 _______________ 20/08/06 Boy
Pucca ___________________ 20/08/06 Boy
Ronniemummy _____________ 21/08/06
hoppybird _______________ 21/08/06
BunnyGirl _______________ 22/08/06
Jayjaybaby ______________ 22/08/06 Girl
Eppifany ________________ 23/08/06
Strike1 _________________ 24/08/06
Olivo ___________________ 24/08/06
yummymummy82 ____________ 24/08/06
Snic ____________________ 26/08/06 Girl?
noodlekitkat ____________ 26/08/06 Boy
beanandboo ______________ 26/08/06 Boy
SenoraPostrohe __________ 28/08/06
micromum ________________ 30/08/06
Micku5 __________________ 31/08/06 Girl
muminaquandry ___________ 01/09/06
eenywifemum and Salamander 01/09/06 Boy (Alexander)
dreamydowler ____________ ?

49 babies due!!!

wow - there are hundreds of us welcome bumble and bean andboo

eeny, i am going to be tested for strep b at 34 weeks - I'm a real anxiety girl so will be one less thing to worry about. loved your birth plan too - it seemed very down to earth, undemanding and clear - I aspire to something similar but need a kick in the pants to get going! think i will do it when i finish work, just too tired for anything at the moment! dh is still off work after his operation, the house is a tip and its too darned hot!! 17 more working days to go.....

Hello everyone, and welcome newbies beanandboo and bumble.

I'm also suffering in the hot weather, like many of you - it's my feet that really swell up - have to wear a EEEE width, and there's not much choice out there, unless you really favour the granny look! Managed to get a pair of reasonable mules, but my ds still calles them 'old lady shoes'. Nothing like a bit of moral support from your nearest and dearest, is there?!

Anyone else got chloasma (pregnancy mask)? I've been using factor 40 and wearing a wide-brimmed hat and it's still getting darker, which is ironic, as I like to stay pale and never sit out in the sun! Only just getting a faint linea nigra, at 32wks+ - appeared way earlier last time.

Been hanging around on the childbirth thread lately to get to grips with choosing between an elective C-section and a VBAC. Have almost convinced myself abour VBAC being the best option for me! May still change my mind though.

eeny - your birthplan looks excellent - some good ideas there. And certainly try and have your own music - the music on the radio going on during my em CS first time round made all the difference to what, up to that point, was quite a scary experience. Fortunately, ds was born, completely coincidentally, to something rather appropriate - 'Children' by Robert Miles. We think of it as his tune now

I've been playing my playlist of tunes I plan to have at the birth over and over recently, as I think it might help with my state of mind, whatever birth I have.

Olivo & Hoppybird - I'm so glad you like my BP! I was freaking out last night about the list of things I have to do in the next few weeks and I thought 'You know what I am just going to get this done so it's one less thing on the list'.

Olivo - 17 more days left - does that feel great or still like too too many?

Hoppy - I havent had chloasma, sorry you have as you like to stay pale! Did you have it in your last pregnancy? I need to complie a CD to listen to in labour... more things to do!

eeny - 17 days feels like way too much! i'm knackered!have to get up at 6.50 but often am awake for 3 or 4 hours during the night so its quite hard going - if one more person tells me 'its preparing you for later....' grrrrrr

I've been thinking about music too - quite bizarrely, twice on the way to the hospital, SImply Red's 'for your babies' has come on, will have to have that I think. dh wants 'the final countdown'

Hoppy - lol at your old lady shoes - i have some too!!

Whereas music would pass me by completely!

Sarahlou, a friend of mine was told at 34 weeks baby was breech, and went for a scan at 36 (I think) to check, at which point they would have attempted to turn before booking a CS. Fortunately, baby turned before that scan, so all is well, and we're just waiting to meet him/her now. (Due next Weds). I know it's stressful, but do try to relax, cos there is still time.

We have finally started the great sort out and there is now room to put a cot in the little bedroom. Haven't actually got a cot, but there's space.

Eeny - didn't have chloasma last time at all. It's not as bad as it could be though, due to staying out of the sun. It shows up as large joined-up freckles - looks like a 'sunglasses' mark around my eyes (like when people tan their faces wearing large sunglasses - pale panda eyes, with tan around them)! Also a large darker patch my forehead, and some patches on my nose. Apparently, it fades about the same rate as a linea nigra (I hope).

My music of choice is mostly Peter Gabriel and REM, and a few others. Still refining the list. Obviously, bump is hearing this all the time (maybe remembering?) so I'm hoping it will have a positive effect on both of us, in the remainder of my pregnancy and during the birth.

My music will pretty much be all Tori Amos! Which he hears all the time anyway... in fact he dances around when I put certain songs on! Unless it is my hopeful imagination. I actually have a Tori poster up in his nursery although it is behind the door so you can't see it when the door is open which it always is. I just like knowing it's there.

Olivo you are a real trooper working as you do! I couldnt do it. It will be so great when you are finished and you can chill out. I am too when people say crap about it being preparation for the baby. IT ISN'T!

Purple glad your friends baby is not breech anymore!

Hoppy - Poor pregnant ladies. We have to deal with a lot dont we. I'm glad it isnt too bad for you but it is a pain isnt it, having one more thing to deal with. I think as most of you know I have had hyperemesis and when I throw up it's awful and I always burst loads of blood vessels in my face so I have these little red dots on me... I am only sick about once a week or so now and they fade after a few days and are pretty easy to cover up but still. I could do without it!

I forgot to post after the list lol

hoppy do you mean the dark patches? I had it on my neck with ds, it looked really really dirty. The terrifying thing was after he was born, it actually scraped off and looked like a dirty sunburn where your skin just comes off. I had the line early too, don't have even the start of one.. yet

I'm not having a birth cd, when I'm in pain I get really crabby and things start irritating me. CDs, clothes, tens... threw them all around in a strop last time!

Do any second time mums feel they aren't doing as much as with their first? With ds, we had all his stuff bought months early, were really enthusiastic about it all, a list of names to take to hospital, suitcase packed by like 30 weeks....
This time, the baby is still missing tons of vital stuff (for example, it's having ds's crib, still haven't got round to buying any bedding for it - even a sheet - and as we sold ds's bedding it literally has nothing lol!) and also we used to talk heaps about what he was like - he used to kick constantly, so we'd say he'd grow up and be a footballer... he loved sex pistols so we'd play him sid vicious this one doesn't kick, doesn't respond to music... it's so strange we're struggling for motivation when this baby was very much planned and ds wasn't!

lunavix I know what you mean about not doing as much with your unborn this time around. I think its partly just having less time to focus on it though last time I could coast at work and spend my time mooning over the possibilities! I think I've also found it a bit harder to bond this time round because I just so preoccupied with the effect a sibling might have on my DD. Do you have this concern?

I wasn't but his behaviour has actually nosedived recently, he's gone from being an angel to a little devil (which I thought was meant to happen after the birth!) So I'm a little worried (as in how much worse it can get!) which is stressful as dh has a rather short fuse so everyone gets tense...

Sorry to hear about your dh's short fuse that must make things harder. A friend of mine's child got a bit 'off' with her prior to birth of number 2 then became an adoring older brother so there is hope! How old is your ds?

Just doing my birth plan now... do you think it's reasonable to put 'I would like to be helped to deliver slowly as the baby crowns so as to minimise tearing. I do not want an episiotomy.' Or is that telling the midwives how to do their job too much?

2labs - I think it is reasonable to put that! I think the midwives would probably do it anyway but it never hurts to point it out in case you get one on the day who doesnt have that as her priority.

I asked my m/w about the birthplan but she is putting it off until I've had my one and only 'active birth' classes, I got forgotten by the NCT and so just having whats on offer from NHS - underwhelming or what. I get the impression that I will not have much say at the end of the day what with my various problems ie Age, being old and being pregnant but old enough to know better......you chicks will want to kill me as well when i have to admit that we're hoping to move house sometime twixt now and due date - 6 weeks...do you think I'm biting off more than i can chew or do you admire my balls???

lunavix - wait till you're on your third! We got rid of everything last summer when we moved, so there's still stuff we need to recover/borrow/maybe even buy . I have no Moses basket bedding and minimal cot bedding, and I just can't quite get bothered enough about that to sort it out. I'm sure I can use pillow cases for sheets in the Moses basket, so I think that'll have to do.

Lunavix - yes, it's dark skin patches. Interesting that yours scraped off afterwards - my skin is certainly different in texture where they appear. LOL @ sex pistols btw - not the usual sort of lullaby. ;)

Oh, we're complete slackers re: preparation - but just as much for my ds as for this one, but it's more to do with being extremely busy and juggling time around more than anything. Have only just sorted out some my ds's old baby clothes - they actually look brand new, which is nice, and I've already got advice from the nappy lady, so I'll shortly be getting a sample order pack to decide which nappies I'll be going with. I'm finding, though, that concentrating on this baby with regards to the way ds will respond to him/her, getting ds involved with feeling bump etc, has really helped in being excited about the birth. Maybe that's a perspective you could try, lunavix?

We're having tremendous problems with finding a boy's name though - have a good list of girl's names.

eeny - glad your hyperemisis is subsiding, but still being sick, even once a week, at this stage is And yes, the little unexpected changes just add to it all. But I think my pregnancy this time round is easier than last time as I don't have to go out to work full time, as I did before. I really feel for all you ladies who still have to go out to work when pregnant, especially in hot weather. (I work from home, and it is a big difference).

bumble - you may well be insane. Welcome aboard! You'll fit right in!

Hi bumble, I went to an 'active birth' day workshop (had to pay not nhs) and it was really good! I guess maybe the 'active birth' term might get bandied about a bit and your one could be very different. But the one I went to went through the whole process with an emphasis on you remaining in control of your birth choices and choosing positions/techniques that felt right. Also had a chance to practise techniques and so on. Hope your class is as good!

ps what lovely enormous balls you have!

You're all a set of superstars - that is coming over loud and clear....and so making me laugh

LOL at the large balls!

speak for yourself Purple

LOL

Purple can speak for me just fine - I am CERTAINLY going insane!!!!

eeny - dont' think I'm being virtuous by still being at work, i'm totally not!! - its just that if I stop before the end of term, i miss out on 7 weeks of normal pay which as you can probably appreciate, we'll need all the more once I'm off and not earning!!

bumble10, now look here! I'm older than you and age has nothing to do with anything, so don't let anybody tell you otherwise. If you've got a medical issue that might be relevant to how and when you give birth that's different--mine's got to be a C/s, for example, because I had problems pushing DS out 5 years ago. But otherwise, how and where you have your baby and the pain relief choices you make, are really an individual thing: everyone's labour feels different. It's a shame you got forgotten by the NCT but there might be other birth classes near you depending where you live--it might be worth starting a thread to see if anyone in your area knows any teachers. Going to have a look round the hospital is helpful, it takes some of the mystique out of things.
BTW I chose a Madonna CD to take to hospital last time but the only noise in our delivery room was me yelling 'Get me an epidural now and make it a double!'
I think we're taking Miles Davis this time around, as he's one of the few musicians both DH and I like.

Oh and bumble, nice balls!

I can speak for Eeny, Olivo - she certainly wouldn't acuse you of being virtuous!
You do what you have to do!

i know! but I feel dreadful that i'm complaining about still being at work when its instigated by money!!

still, gives us something to talk about in my child development lessons

Don't worry Olivo - if Eeny were able to work, she would.
She has not been able to do full time work from VERY early on in the pregnancy, and as her employers will not allow her to do reduced hours, she is forced to stay on Statutory Sick Pay.

Afternoon

Not sure if I said hello to bumble10 beanandboo , but hello (may be again, im so going senile).

All this talk of balls , what with big brothers big mouth whatshisface and ball bags.

Sorry to hear of your worrys with piles or not piles eeny , its all such an anxious time. Really great straight forward bp also , my midwife/ pre birth carer is hopefully going to help with mine next week.

I dont think Ive been on for a few days , have been having some really difficult emotional episodes , my therapy seems to aggravate it all for about 24hrs - 48hrs after and it makes me cry all day. Im getting very very anxious about hospital , labour and after effects. I was also told in a dream over the weekend that a friends fil would die and he died Tuesday morning , so that made me all choked up.

Physio women just discharged me today as there isnt much she can do now being so late in pregnancy, she also said to much manipulation and treatment will affect my central nervous system , so have to wait till 3mths after giving birth and then get another referall. She said to minimise movements that aggravate it all , and get some rest too by laying down when I can LOL , with dd no chance. I have stpopped driving as it just gets me in a state now and bump hits wheel so I can reach pedals , its just a real faff and a drain. Im reliant on family now , which means Im stuck in if no one around. I live on a hill and with y back problem I cant face walking around.

sorry for long one , seem to not be here for days and then I blather on and on.How or whats everyone doing when they feel really touchy and down??? Im either seriously a banshee women or crying and feeling very woe is me.

looks like I've missed some good entertainment!

Olivo you should feel proud of yourself! God knows how much I would have loved having more money during this pregnancy. I just DO NOT have the stamina for it.

Bumble I couldnt face a move right now - but if you think you can & you have good support go for it!! Loony!

Melsy sorry you are struggling! You can ask Sal, I have been VERY emotional, up and down the last month or so. When it's good, it's very good, and when it's bad... it's downright scary! I try to have nice things to do and look forward to but sometimes I just write the day off and say 'You know what I am just going to be down today' because there isnt much you can do about it all the time.

She has, Melsy.

but it's ok - you can't feel guilty for it.

Everyone else should just deal with it.
Creating life ain't easy!

Melsy, sorry to hear things are difficult at the moment. Therapy can sometimes churn things up, and then we have all our hormones making things confused anyway. I'm glad I still have some work to get on with tbh--I'd just be lumbering around wondering what to do with myself otherwise, and getting in a right state!

so its ok to throw things, swear and scream like a loon , dh should just suck it up hey???!!!!. I need him to come on here and be given a talking too.

Hey Melsy! Unless your DH can squeeze a bowling ball out of his arse, he should smile sweetly and say THANK YOU MELSY!

Afternoon everyone, cant keep up with you lot phew! Hope your all swell!

Lol at your comment Arabica - 'make it a double!'

Just finished my birthplan after seeing Eeny's, hope you dont mind tho eeny but I copied and pasted yours and added bits of my own in etc.

Music will be a big thing for me during labour for me as I sing in a rock band and the baby has listened to all types of music whilst me being pg. Baba's fave is 'Bat out of Hell' by Meatloaf! lol. But I love a wide variety of stuff so will do my own cd over next few weeks. (If dh has his way it will be Oasis or The Who)

Hoppy, I've noticed that my freckles have become darker and more prominent dueirng the last few weeks but am liking it so dont think its full pg mask like yours! Hope they dont fall of after the birth?

PMSL at Cheeseburger crotch syndrome!

10 working days left at work - Cum'on! Must admit its getting hard to get out of bed in the mornings and I've got a fan behind me and an air con machine set up - everyones making a right ole fuss! Bless em!

Got lots of girls names but only 1 boys name - why are boys names so hard to find?

Melsy sorry to hear your having a rough time lately, hope things get better for you chick x

pmsl , you sure you weren't a women in a past life Sal, you just seem to get us lot !!!

and yes Im sure my grammer is atrocious !!

LOL Melsy!

Maybe I was!
Who knows!!??

All I know is that you ladies sure put up with a lot of sh&t and... well it's tough!

Eeny, the twins aren't identical (they have their own sacs and placentas), but we decided not to find out the sexes, so could be two the same or one of each. Makes the name problem even greater, but so far we have one boy and one girl name, so hopefully that will be just what we need.

I must admit being a tad of your posts about Alexander - it's like you (and all of us too!) know him as a proper little boy already. It's lovely

BHM - I dont mind at all that you amended the BP - it would look funny if you mentioned someone named Salamander! haha no seriously I'm glad you liked it, I was pleased with it myself although I found I had less to say than I though I would so it stayed pretty simple. And arent you cool, singing for a rock band!!! You know we all want to come see you now!

preparingfor2 - Salamander and I were just sitting here in awe of your twins!! It's such an interesting thing! Good luck thinking of extra names if you need them! I can't wait to find out what you have!! I know what you mean about 'knowing' Alexander... I have a friend knew her baby's sex months before I did and when she talked about 'Freddy' I was because it seemed she knew her baby better than I did mine somehow... But for a lot of people I know they like the anticipation of not knowing! I always wanted to find out the sex though I am so impatient.

Hello!
I know your guys have had a few new crashers recently but I hope there's room for one more! I'm due August 18th, first baby, having a boy. Bumble: We just moved house - it's not too bad. As pregnant lady you get to just point at things and say "Move that. No, not there, there." etc etc

welcome Aussiemama! wow I cant get over how many people are on our board!! we should win an award! are you in australia? is that a dumb question?

Nope, not in Aus (though I doubt that's a stupid question at all). Emigrated to London accidently about 6 and a half years ago. Family still in Oz though. Got my new British driving licence through today though so feeling very British just now....

Hi everyone. First of all, thanks for all the support about my breech dd. I know she has plenty of time to turn (7 weeks), my ds didn't turn until the end. Spoke to my mum to day and apparantly I didn't turn until 39 weeks! Must run in the family! Still bit p*ssed with mw - she can't seem to make her mind up what to recommend.

Eeny - just one thing to consider. If you're planning a water birth in hospital the room where the pool will be will probably not have any electricity (mine didn't with ds - health & safety!). Take a cd player with plenty of batteries! Also, if episiotomy needed - you want to be given local anaethetic in that area! You'll have enough pain without that adding to it!

Welcome to all the new August-to-be mummies! We must now be one if not the largest ante-natal groups on this site!

Hi Aussiemama, welcome and congrats on your impending arrival! Another boy then, have you thought about names?

Nice to hear from you again sarahlou, when did you say you would be seeing your md again?

sorry that should have been mw not md!

beanandboo: Was going to go with something fairly basic as I have had a lifetime of spelling both of my names. His surname is a fairly complicated one so I thought Jack (but then found out it was the most popular name in Britain and thought maybe not...he'll end up being "Jack R" all his school life), Sam, Tom or Joe. Something simple. All ideas gratefully accepted.

PreparingFor2 __________01/08/06 Twins
Act ___________________ 02/08/06
Arabica ________________02/08/06 c/s booked 27/07/06
Fortnight ______________02/08/06
Freddysays ____________ 02/08/06 Boy
mojomummy _____________ 02/08/06
Boopert _______________ 04/08/06 Boy
Bobley ________________ 05/08/06 Boy
Bighotmama ____________ 07/08/06
PinkTulips ____________ 09/08/06
AGJ ___________________ 10/08/06 Girl
Cheeps ________________ 10/08/06
Burstingbug ___________ 10/08/06 Boy?
Webchick ______________ 11/08/06
Bumble10 ______________ 12/08/06
Melsy _________________ 12/08/06
Kitegirl ______________ 12/08/06 Boy
BabiesEverywhere ______ 12/08/06
Frodofitz _____________ 12/08/06
aprilgirl _____________ 13/08/06
Purpleturtle __________ 13/08/06
YellowFeathers ________ 13/08/06 Boy
Lockets _______________ 14/08/06
Trix1 _________________ 15/08/06
2labs _________________ 15/08/06
Sarahlou1uk ___________ 16/08/06 Girl
Babylily ______________ 18/08/06 Girl
claire7676 ____________ 18/08/06
Aussiemama ____________ 18/08/08 Boy
lunavix _______________ 19/08/06 Girl
Katylou25 _____________ 20/08/06 Boy
Pucca _________________ 20/08/06 Boy
Ronniemummy ___________ 21/08/06
hoppybird _____________ 21/08/06
BunnyGirl _____________ 22/08/06
Jayjaybaby ____________ 22/08/06 Girl
Eppifany ______________ 23/08/06
Strike1 _______________ 24/08/06
Olivo _________________ 24/08/06
yummymummy82 __________ 24/08/06
Snic __________________ 26/08/06 Girl?
noodlekitkat __________ 26/08/06 Boy
beanandboo ____________ 26/08/06 Boy
SenoraPostrohe ________ 28/08/06
micromum ______________ 30/08/06
Micku5 ________________ 31/08/06 Girl
muminaquandry _________ 01/09/06
eenywifemum and Salamander 01/09/06 Boy (Alexander)
dreamydowler __________ ?

50 babies due!!!

purpleturtle - pillow cases Perfect! One less thing to buy we're leaning towards buying pink for a girl but are saving this bits till after birth so a pillowcase will do nicely lol

beanandboo - he's 2.2 so only diddy but he's fairly smart if I say so myself lol

hoppybird - I suppose it's concentrating on ds (and the baby) as opposed to just the baby that's making me feel bad lol. Ds just got a whole new bedroom set (bed wardrobe etc) to eventually 'pass' his to the baby... and I can't even get round to buying the baby bedding lol. Poor thing.

bumble - I feel like that sometimes, although YellowFeathers is in the process of moving which is why she isn't online. I'm taking on a new job (promoting and selling cloth nappies) continuing my NVQ, training for another job, plus working full time up until the day the baby is born lol. And then after 2 weeks holiday, I'm back to it all, except kids will be back at school so only around a 20 hour week till October I know I'm nuts lol and I'm too tired to worry!!!

I know you've had some emotional stresses melsy but I wouldn't feel too alone. I sat in ds's new room sobbing yesterday as the wardrobe wouldn't be finished in time for him to sleep in there today.... and I mean proper sobbing. I've been feeling very touchy and tense emotionally for about two weeks now, anything can set me off then I'm down for hours.

Hi ya everyone,

Firstly I am not sure I am permitted to write on this board, as my 9th Aug was brought forward to 2nd Aug ... now brought forward again to 26th July !! So not really an Aug due date anymore ...

Hi Aussiemama, this is my first baby too, mine is a boy, hubby doesnt know, Name will be 'Charlie' Charles Alexander. I am so looking forward to his arrival now.

Its my last day at work tomorrow, my cover started yesterday. They are all taking me to the pub for a lunch, and will be an embarressing presentation about 10ish .... I will have to buy a ton of cakes for everyone too ... guess not much work will be done tomorrow !!!

Hubby going away on Sunday for 2 weeks, so am putting mad springer spaniel in the kennels as I am not really able to walk/exercise her twice a day the great size of me presently.

x x x
Misty

Beanandboo - I see mw again in 2 weeks time when she brings me my home birth kit. She says she'll go through all options then including booking me in (provisionally) to have the dd turned at 37 weeks. Have read somewhere that if you sit slightly leaning forward or straight, that this encourages baba to get into correct position. Might blow up my birthing ball and sit on that for a bit instead of lounging on the sofa

luna and beanaboo, can so relate to not planning for this baby like i did for dd, i had my hospital bag packed and ready in the hall at 27 weeks last time and can't seem to organise it at all this time round!

also really aware of the how it's all going to affect dd, feel guilty that she'll have to share us, terrified she'll feel pushed out and an even crazier part of me doesn't want to have to give up all the time i spend with her. dreading the weeks of establishing breastfeeding as i remember with her i was glued to the couch for weeks on end and i really don't know how i'll be able to take care of dd properly

melsy, does sobbing on dps shoulder because i don't have anything to wear while giving birth sound hormonal and crazy enough for you?

did my birth plan last week but it's not nearly as polite as yours eeny, so annoyed at how certain things were taken out of my control last time i've beeen quite blunt about what i want this time.

hello again misty.. of course you're still an august girl!

I'm another one that can relate to not having much planned for 2nd child. Also, unsure of how ds is going to react when his 'Baby Molly' is here. Have been talking to him, asking him if he is going to help mummy and he says yes. Have bought him a couple of new dvd's which I will say Molly has bought him. Hopefully, all my birth plans will come together and I won't have to disturb him or send him off to his nannan's. Fingers crossed, I will start during the night at home, get in pool, give birth, tidy up and then when he gets up in morning, have a nice surprise for him! Well, that's the plan, but you know what they always say about plans.....

for anyone that's interested, here's some info on optimal positioning. According to a mate, back-to-back labours can be a real pain [insert emoticon for screwed up agonised face] so well worth avoiding if possible!

Evening! Hope you are all well.

Pink I don't blame you if you werent as polite. You have a right to be clear about what you want!

Sarahlou - thanks for pointing that out about the CD player. I hadnt thought of that & I will double check with the MW of Tues. I asked her once before if I could listen to a CD and she said they had a player so I would hope she remembered I was having a waterbirth... And I really hope you get the birth you want!! Although you shouldnt be doing the tidying up afterwards!

Misty of course you can still post on here! Arabica is having her section in July so you arent being expelled!

Thankyou guys for showing me that some of the blues and crying is not all down to me being seen by funny farm people!!.Thankyou for all your words of support to every one who has if I dont mention them. My heads all scrambled right now.

Im alone again today (seems hard to make arrangements or want to be social with anyone but family right now) and dh told me this morning hes going to be home very late tonight due to work.So I have started this morning sobbing and now feel sick with anxiety and feel at a loss and dont quite know what to do with dd and myself today. Im to tired and sore to walk anywere but cant face a day alone. I end up sitting on here for ages and leaving dd to sit in front of cbeebs, which I never used to do. I am being an awful mum right now.

Ptulips , I also have had a cry about not having new nighties for this birth, Im wearing the ones I laboured with dd in right now & when I see myself in the mirror it gives me the shivers. Its like Ive gone back in time 3yrs.

Lunavix, its very upsetting to have something planned and it not work out at the moment isnt it. I so related to your sobbing episode.

Arabica , you are so right this therapy is churning up all sorts. I dont remeber feeling so out of sorts in such a definate way with other therapies Ive done. Im hoping with such a powerful reaction that I will finally heal from things , but when , I dont know.

beanandboo , I had a back to back labour and yes it was very difficult , Im annoyed that I wasnt told prior to labour that dd was , as midwives Ive spoken to about it since , said I could have done things to help move her.

sorry seem to be all me me me , arrrghhhhh.

ooh must say hello to Aussiemum , cant add rudness to the pot now.

melsy really feel for you I am v weepy too and I wasn't at all with no 1 so it has taken me by surprise. Luckily DS is at nursery in the mornings and I have a little work to finish at home so I am able to switch off for a while. Is the weather nice where you are? I always find that going out with a little picnic can change the whole mood of the day (and less tidying up at home!)

Melsy - Sorry you're having a particularly hard time today. I think you're a marvel for even getting on MN with everything that is going on. I can't imagine going through this pg thing with another child already on the scene (finding it a battle just with me!). Thinking of you.

Eeny - they have electricity in the pool room at my hospital, so you might be okay. Not sure if I'll take any music with me. I think it would just annoy me, but could take it anyway I guess.

Welcome to Ausiemama - I'm an Aussie too. From Melbourne (well Geelong actually), been here 5 years, live in N London, 35+3 with twins. How about you?

Didn't realise you were from Geelong, Preparing4two. Have friends (from UK) who moved there a few months ago and are now expecting 1st baby. Small small world.

Have trawled the charity shops near us over the past couple of days, and am now proud owner of one Moses basket sheet! Cost me 50p.

Have decided that the RSPCA do themselves no favours by selling 2nd hand stuff and pet food in the same place. Makes the shop smell funny, and then you transfer that to all the clothes!

Have also bought a nappy bucket.

Yep, born and bred there (all my family is there), but I lived in Melbourne for about 10 years before coming to London. I hope your friends are enjoying it, it really is a nice relaxed place and a great place to bring up kids.

I've been hunting for cot sheets the past couple of days as well, and am having no end of trouble trying to find cotton flat sheets (or any flat sheets for that matter) anywhere. Don't people use them for a top sheet? I'm almost ready to resort to making some up from a single.

got my 100% flat cotton ones from J Lewis & Tesco. Get them cotbed size as you can always fold them & then they will last longer if you go from moses basket to cot to cot bed, as we did (altho I am sure that you could skip the first 2 options!!)

hi ya every one i should be renamed emotional mess oh my god im getting seriously hormonal i just want my baby

we definately decided on charlie-jayne and have told a few people so im being asked how chrlie is now rather than the bump

melsy im glad your working through ive got my next appt week on monday and im freaking coz i feel so bad at the mo i feel like i could run off with someones baby at the mo

my dh has finally felt the baby kick and kick and kick somemore we had orange juice and a cornetto before hand

i cant remember who was saying about optimum postioning but the mw at antenatal class said the scrubbing floor postion helps get baby right way round

hello to the new ones am 32 3 today my dh keeps telling me how many days left he's getting very excited

Thanks muminaquandary. I hadn't tried Tesco so will venture out this afternoon.

Hopefully my mattress will arrive on Monday so I'll be able to get them washed and all set up

preparingfor2: Now, you're not allowed to laugh but I am from Hobart, Tasmania. I always like to add quickly that I was born and spent my first 10 years in South Australia (even though Adelaide doesn't exactly have an amazing reputation for fun and excitment either!). Am now living in South London with an English bloke who has a 7 yr old from a previous relationship so there's no chance of heading home any time soon.

Are you planning on staying here permenately (sorry, my spelling seems to have got worse with pregnancy - and I'm a teacher! It's humiliating to have your spelling corrected by a 5 yr old let me tell you!)?

ive seen cot sheets in ethel austin as well preparing for 2 we got ours from babie r us and mothercare

glad to see you back i hope your ok and getting over your loss of your dad

ive seen cot sheets in ethel austin as well preparing for 2 we got ours from babie r us and mothercare

glad to see you back i hope your ok and getting over your loss of your dad

prep42 - boots has flat sheets and they were on 3 for 2 not sure if still are but might be worth a try.

melsy, sorry to hear you're still feeling crappy. i have total respect for everyone who is coping with pregnancy while looking after other dcs.

finding it really hard to manage with the heat, and its forecast 32 for the weekend and next week - aaagh!

oh, and welcome aussiemama

ive started a thread in pregnancy re my hormonal worries so i dont start boring you all with my problems but if you are starting to feel abit wobbly or have any ideas with coping please add your thoughts id be most grateful

I've got an injury! collecting ds from nursery I wasn't paying attention to the fact he'd stopped to open a door and I kind of kicked the back of his shoe with my sandalled foot. It lifted the nail of my big toe, and now it hurts. Dh went all squeamish about having to deal with the blood - it's a bit tricky for me to reach, lol, and ds wasn't very impressed either.

Oh well, another excuse to sit with my feet up.

Yuk, you poor thing, purpleturtle, that sounds horrible.
I'm not weepy but I sure am hot, hot, hot. Meant to be working but just can't be arsed.

poor purple! definitely an excuse to do nothing for the day

this day is going so bl*dy slowly i'm going to snap soon! dd is screaming to go out and play now but i so can't cope with waddling around after her with all the creepy foreign neighbours staring at me, can't wait to move from here.

p42, mothercare have cotten flat sheets from what i remember

Sadly, I seem to be making a speedy recovery. Have used it as an excuse not to accompany dd to another hideous soft-play party. She has gone with a friend and her mum, which is a first, so I hope she'll be all right. But quite frankly, so long as nobody treads on my bandaged toe, I reckon it'll be all right. Till the nail drops off altogether...

Hi everybody, hope all is well. There is loads on here as always!!

I am feeling really really huge right now and actually went out today and got another mat. top as I have very little to wear. Also really struggling in the heat!

Booby I am sorry you are feeling bad. I will check out your thread. I have been going through the same thing & I posted about it a while ago in pregnancy but I have to say I didnt get many responses - I hope yours is going well.

purple sorry about your toe!! Something like that happened to me once before... well not nearly as bad, my fingernail which was long, flipped back and I still feel sick to my stomach when I think of it. Nail stuff really hurts.

I'm sure I've missed loads of stuff!

off to my cousins wedding today and im already sweltering appaerently there is air con or im coming away early

have done my hair and now sat in front of a fan as im melting so going to have to take make up repair kit with me which i hate doing

thought iwas going tinto labour again last night was crippled in pain as we walked round asda my hubby is convinced im going to go into labour just as england start playing lol

speak to you all tomorrow and enjoy the sun

Booby - have a nice day. I've got a wedding to go to in 2 weeks time, an all day one. Don't think I'll make it all day though.

It always cheers me up to come on here and know am not the only huge, ungainly, exhausted, pregnant woman in Britain! Yesterday I was getting a bit paranoid re lack of movement but I think baby just found the Italy v Ukraine game a little tedious. S/he perked up for Big Bro!
I can't face going top the pub to watch England so have told DH he can go--I'm going to be in the park at a kids' party and will listen on the radio

did someboy mention hormones? ..... just spent all morning from when dd woke at 6.30 til she went down for her nap at 11.30 sobbing. can't seem to deal with anything at the minute, so sore and tired and the thought of having a tiny screaming baby needing attention 24/7 just makes me cry. weird when i think back to this stage with dd i was praying for her to be born, this time i'm willing him to stay put in the hope i'll get some rest before he's born.

think i'll go stuff my face with chocolate and watch crappy sat tv while she's down, times like this i'd kill for a cigarette!

have fun at the wedding booby, hope you find a nice comfy seat right under the a/c

Morning

awwww pink tulips ((((((((hugs))))))))),yuck isnt it this feeling. Ive been seeing people smooking and thought mmmmmmmm , I gave up nearly 4 yrs ago , but the smell sometimes has made me want one too and normally think YUCK YUCK YUCK!!!

Ive had a right barny wth dh this morning,Ive now been crying non stop for the week. It just sucks this feeling. Glad we can all come on here and metaphorically hold each others hands. Ive even upset everyone on a chat forum I go to for my spiritual side of life. They are sick to death of hearing about it all, over and over this week , I am so , and I pay to be a member there ,but feel I cant go on right now.

Booby have a good day today , did you read our replies on your thread. Prolly havent got time to look today, so hope you have some relief in escape today xx.

Arabica , Im so glad its not just me having a list like that, so glad to know we are not alone in all this feeling. Im getting to the banging fists on sofa stage , as just cant get comfy.

smoooking !!!

Just realised , your all probably sick of me carrying on every day too .

don't be silly melsy, we all come on here to moan and complain. it's the one place we can do so without people rolling their eyes at us and getting annoyed. and lord knows you've been having a rough ride recently so whinge to your hearts contents sweetie

Thank you pt ,I really appreciate you saying that. Im getting paranoid to boot. My therapy deffo has amplified old feelings.

Whats you all up to today ? gotta find a way of chilling out somehow sometime, hope dd will watch footy with daddy PLEEEEEEEAAASE. I need a cool bed , nice chill music and my book.

Otherwise I think me and you PT can have a right crying fest together.

Hi everyone IM due my baby girl on the 30th August which right now seems a life time away My sister is due any day now and Im beginning to wish I didnt have the whole of the hot summer with the children off school to go.Ive been feeling really emotional lately too just need to be loved and kissed and cuddled but OH always seems too tired too busy or too grumpy. Have been trying to get house cleaned and decorated but my swollen ankles and bump keep getting in the way really wish I could afford a holiday. Anyway back to the chores hope everyone is well

you must be exhausted with all those kids to run around after dreamy. are some of them old enough to mind the younger ones while you put your feet up? either that or get some shild labour going and have them do the cleaning for their pocket money

cry fest sounds good right now melsy, calmer at the minute as dd is still asleep but i know it'll be 10 after she wakes before i'm having a nervous breakdown again. just keep thinking 'how am i supposed to do this with a newborn?'. maybe it's just that dd was such a difficult baby for so long that has me so nervous.

hi dreamydowler , have we met before? Or am I going to embaress myself as you are already on here ??!!!

How old are your lo's?

Welcome to the hormone horror corner !!!

aaarrgghhh! dd is awake and has spent the last 10 mins repeatedly showing me a paticular tile on the kitchen floor as if it's the most important thing in the world and getting cross when i don't understand what she's showing me! i've a good mind to head back to bed!

Misty10 _____________ 26/07/06 Boy
PreparingFor2 _______ 01/08/06 Twins
Act _________________ 02/08/06
Arabica _____________ 02/08/06 c/s booked 27/07/06
Fortnight ___________ 02/08/06
Freddysays __________ 02/08/06 Boy
mojomummy ___________ 02/08/06
Boopert _____________ 04/08/06 Boy
Bobley ______________ 05/08/06 Boy
Bighotmama __________ 07/08/06
PinkTulips __________ 09/08/06
AGJ _________________ 10/08/06 Girl
Cheeps ______________ 10/08/06
Burstingbug _________ 10/08/06 Boy?
Webchick ____________ 11/08/06
Bumble10 ____________ 12/08/06
Melsy _______________ 12/08/06
Kitegirl ____________ 12/08/06 Boy
BabiesEverywhere ____ 12/08/06
Frodofitz ___________ 12/08/06
aprilgirl ___________ 13/08/06
Purpleturtle ________ 13/08/06
YellowFeathers ______ 13/08/06 Boy
Lockets _____________ 14/08/06
Trix1 _______________ 15/08/06
2labs _______________ 15/08/06
Sarahlou1uk _________ 16/08/06 Girl
Babylily ____________ 18/08/06 Girl
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Katylou25 ___________ 20/08/06 Boy
Pucca _______________ 20/08/06 Boy
Ronniemummy _________ 21/08/06
hoppybird ___________ 21/08/06
BunnyGirl ___________ 22/08/06
Jayjaybaby __________ 22/08/06 Girl
Eppifany ____________ 23/08/06
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noodlekitkat ________ 26/08/06 Boy
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eenywifemum and Salamander 01/09/06 Boy (Alexander)

51 babies due!

Sweating my arse off today, listening to dh and pil swear at tv at argentinian ref!

have anaemia (docs found out at 28 weeks apparently but decided not to tell me. Only found out as I asked after practically fainting walking the 10 mins to surgery!) also have thrush (URGH. Have never had this before and it's GROSS) and the hayfever is still running high.

Dh still hasn't finished ds's wardrobe, although he has buggered up a shelf. Feeling pretty shitted off all round really!

Luna - I'd be SO annoyed with your docs if I were you!! You should KNOW that so you can help make it better! God that is so unfair. I get so angry when medical 'professionals' let us down.

Melsy dont worry about coming on here and talking about how you feel, we all do! It's ok!

Arabica - you are SO not the only ungainly pregnant woman! Take comfort in that. Salamander keeps trying to get me to stay home when we go out food shopping as I slow him down... but as I am home every day I usually want to go just to get out of the house.

Booby - how was the wedding? Hope you stayed cool.

I was sick last night and feel really nauseous today so I am not happy about that. Tomorrow and Monday Sal and I are going to be really busy as Monday is his BIRTHDAY!! He doesnt know what we are doing though, it's a surprise.

Hope everyone is keeping well!

meant to say - I had to buy a new bra yesterday so rather than waste money on a maternity bra I got a nursing bra. I was a 36C/D before I got pregnant - this bra is a 40E!! What the hell happened??? I know your ribcage expands when you are pregnant but THAT MUCH?? I'm not huge or anything, I am still wearing size 12-16 maternity clothes... Cant believe that. E!

eeny, i wasa 34c before dd, and now a 38d is too tight, i'm too stubborn to go any higher though, just wander a round without one

Am dreading to think what size I am going to be, my nursing bra was a J cup with DS! Am wearing a too-tight 38DD at the moment (was 36D before). Going to get fitted a few days before my C-section.
It's bloody hot, innit? I'm indoors, 'working'. Can't concentrate. At least it's too hot even for me to stuff face with chocolate today! Fancy an ice-cream but don't fancy walking to shops to buy one. And a Pimms, and yes (can't remember who said it) I've been craving cigarettes too! Even though I am asthmatic and gave up smoking years ago. Just the idea of it is nice.

i've got a bottle of róse that somebody gave me while bf-ing that i was saving for when i finished (ha-ha, jokes on me!). it's sitting on the shelf taunting me. i see it everytime i go to the fridge but dp doesn't drink so if i open the damn thing i'll end up going through it all and i don't think that would be a wise move!

spent all last night and today fighting with dp, slept in dd's room and sobbed for most of the day. think i'd kill someone for that cigarette by now! not even sure what we were fighting about... my preg hormones and him having just given up fags had a bit of a collision

arabica, that J cup must be impressive to behold! i think mine are huge when they're a DD when my milk comes in. that said they went so rock solid and i felt so thin after losing the bump i was walking around feeling like a barbie doll for weeks!

I bought myself a couple of little bottles of M&S Cava the other week, they're the kind supermodels have at fashion shows with a straw. Thoroughly recommended!

OOh Id love a rose champers right now ,might help me write my birth plan thoughts , as need them for my meeting with midwwife vulnrable mummy carer person. Im getting nervous , as she may have got hold of my notes from last time now.

Pink Tulips are we living the same life , dh and I also barnied all yesterday morning , so I locked myself in bathroom to cry down phone to sister. I wont say what its all about on here. Hes just not being to supportive , especially with everything Im going through.I hope he doesnt see this , hell probably get upset Im saying so on here , as some MNers know me.

eeny poor you hun being sick , I must say one look at all the food brought back from shopping had me running to the loo.

Luna , how ridic about them not telling you of the anemia , have they put you on tablets ? Just eatn LOADS of fruit , IM so bunged up otherwise.

Booby how was the wedding ? Hows the horror hormones ? Is it reaching crescendos like alot of us it seems ?

Arabica , listen to us previous , puffing, boozy birds !!!

I think the babies droppped even more overnight , as my mum said its sloping more at the top and I cant seem to put my legs together, feels like baby is sitting right on my lap. Brought on nasty sciatica pain this morning.

OMYGAWD is this heat making everyone feel like theyve gone into slow motion ? Make it stop !!!!!!All I can do to cool down is flannel myself with water and stand starkers in front of our huge fan in the bedroom !!!!!!

melsy, i got one of those little hand held fans in the pound shop the other day, dead handy for slouching on the couch in the evening. your dh sounds like my dp... he's actually used the excuse 'i forget your pregnant' on several occasions after picking a fight when i've been a bit snappy! how he can forget with the size of me i don't know! he's pissing meoff now though as i'd really like to get some rest before the baby comes and he's just not helping out as much as he should be,

i've seen the add for the cava on tv arabica, with the rasberry and pomegranate thrown in... mmmmmmmmmmm. might treat myself this week

I feel for you, as my DH is only now being helpful (smug emoticon). He's not been provoking arguments, but he has been in a bit of denial about the baby due to its potential problems, taking the view that we don't know anything yet so why worry, when I am reassured by knowing all that could possibly go wrong, whilst at the same time taking less of an interest in talking to the bump and feeling for kicks, etc, than he did when pg with DS. But on Fri he came home with a little toy for it and this evening he has dug out a couple of baby things--a bouncy chair and one of those inflatable nest things--from the hall cupboard.

hi ya all

wedding was faberooney had three glasees of wine over eight hours didnt get home til half eleven even had a dance was fabulous

hormone wise im all over the place today feel really ggoey and lovey over my dh bless him weve cuddled up on the sofa alll eveniing and its been fab

dont even start me on fags i so want onnnnnnnneeeee pleaseeeeeeeeeeee but i will not poison my baby no i wont

my waist is 53'' round and my chest is 51'' round and my 36jj bra is definatley too small but gonna hang on for two more weeks

thnks to all who left me a message on my THREad it was much appreciated but felt too emotional to post

Morning all,

Wasn't the temp a killer last night? Bought a fan yesterday but couldn't be bothered to assemble it. Number one job for today.

Using the heat as motivation for the piles of baby washing I need to do - got a load of nappies on as we speak.

Sympathise with those of you with DH/DP tensions. Saturday had to drive 5.5 hours each way to collect our new (twin-friendly) car (bought off ebay). Since DH had to get back for a work commitment we "didn't have time" to stop for lunch or anything but the odd loo break. Honest mistake in working out how long it would all take, but was I by the time we got home? I went straight for the chinese home delivery menu

Aussiemama - Hobart, hey? Very nice part of the world, Tassie, but a bit different to London life! I'm well-entrenched here too now. I bet, like me, you never imagined having kids anywhere but Aus - still can't quite believe it. My DH is Aussie (married before we came to UK), so once the twins get here, we might find our priorities change and we want to head back. Nice to have another Aussie on here .

im sleeping with a cold flannel on bump and forehaead very nice

filling my pool as we speak gonna wallow all day

so will be moaning im sunburnt tomorrow

we have told everyone baby's name now so she is offically charlie-jayne or cj from now on

i have no patience sp? at all

feeling delirously happy again today weird or what

morning! anyone not melted yet? was 28 dgrees in my room when I got into work at 7.45! , doesnt bode well for the rest of the day!! am currently revelling in an IT lesson in an air conditioned room - bliss at 16 degrees!
my dh finally came into his own last night (after my stropping that there were 2 of us not handling this pregnancy very well, on saturday) by getting ice packs for my feet and propping open doors and windows at quarter to two this morning!! glad he's not the only dp being un-understanding at times!

booby - your wedding sounded good!

how is everyone else this morning?

Aussiemum, I don't believe I've said hello and welcome. Have never been to Hobart but I did live in Sydney for a couple of years. Back home in UK now--I miss those beaches and lovely coffee bars.
Warning, whingey rant/moan alert!
Wish I was in a pool! Am in my office/sauna trying to finish bloody feature which is neverending. Downstairs are two carpet fitters and I am having nightmares that they are going to fit the wrong carpet and I won't notice because my brain is elsewhere (last week our bathroom mirror arrived and I was so shocked by seeing my reflection that I didn't notice it was all wonky and not what we had ordered!)
I'm definitely having some pg related body-image issues. A friend took a pic of all the pg mums with kids in reception class and I was shocked when I saw how huge I looked. I seem to have grown an extra face never mind an extra chin! And I've got the world's biggest bum...moan moan moan...

Arabica - I know what you mean about the image thing - I'm none too impressed with what looks back at me from the mirror!
as for pregnancy 'mush brain', i tried to put the milk away in the downstairs loo the other day - what is going on?!?!

awwwwwwwwww Arabica , we are all in right ole state !!!! big (((((((((HUGS)))))))). Hope the day doesnt stay this way for you , did you read about my trick with being starkers , get wet and stand in front of fan ??? supose you cant do that with carpet fitters around lol.

Glad the wedding was good booby , glad your having an up day. Remember how that feels for a bad day.

Mad week ensews (sp?), appts appts and more appts , Im going a bit nuts with it all, as dd going to nursury is a chance for me to relax ha ha , but thought it more sensible to do all appts when shes there.

Found out last night that a close family friends husband died yesterday morning, its so weird to think hes gone. Ive also got a jewish wake tonighrt for my other friend father. Its been so weird the last 10 days , so many sad things. I must find some positive and joyous things. With all my worries about birth , ive forgotten to get excited about having a new little person.

oh , midwife carer just called to cancel my appt today , her secretary says they have to work on wards today, as its sooo soo busy ??!!! Very worrying that its soo busy there. hmmmmm I hope they dont turn me away in 5wks time eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

lol Olivo milk in loo NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!!

Also have lardy bum thigh paranoia about my image, doesnt even matter if dh shouts that I "look fine" . Just dont believe him.

Sorry to hear about your bereavements Melsy & thanks for the good wishes. Are the Jewish family having the formal mourning procedure (called 'shiva')? Cos if so it'll be more like a prayer meeting than a wake, just to warn you in case you haven't been to one before.

Morning fellow fatties, I am too feeling rather whale-like and finding it hard to keep up with anybody walking with me, having to tell them to slow down as my bump weighs too heavy and have noticed the baby has started kicking me really hard when I walk which feels mad.

I know what you mean PT/Melsy about craving a ciggy, I used to smoke menthol when out drinking and at the pub on Saturday watching I saw a box of Menthols on the table and did imagine hvaing one as even the smell was nice . But I quickly snapped myself out of it and took a sip of my cold pint of Magners cider - has anyone else tried this drink yet? Its absolutley beaut in this weather - loads of ice and so refreshing.


I managed to waddle round birmingham bullring for 2 hours yesterday morning with sister in tow carrying all my shopping bless her! Bought a few more mat clobber as all i want to wear at the moment is tent-like-no-bra-nonsense dresses. got fe bits for baba from M&P's - bouncy chair, nursery stuff etc. My sister took me to Pumpkin Patch which have the most gorgeous little outfits for baba's, was coo-ing over the whole shop, bet they thought I was mad! Still have no nursing bra's yet - where's best place to get them? My boobs havent got any bigger but my back seems to be getting wider - bra size now 40d and feeling bit tight. Booby feel for you with your size JJ's hun!

Have got 8 days left at work now, driving to work is doing my head in, there seems to be so many prats on the road it makes you feel so vulnerable.

Bought a mini aqua fan from Superdrug yesterday it sprays water aswell as keeps you fannied! Hoping to pack it in my hospital bag!

Did anybody else's DH get really upset and cry at the results on Saturday? Mine was sobbing for hours and nothing I did or said would help! Kept thinking 'Hang on! Its only football - I'm meant to be the hormonal one here - have you any idea what its like being this big, not drinking, not smoking, sweating like a biyatch, wearing tents, elephant ankles and stinging heartburn etc etc!' Some men just dont know they're born sometimes!

Arabica me is jewish girl!! , just come and look at all the gefilte fish , herring and smoke salmon in the fridge !!!! Im just worried that Ill start right balling during the prayers, its all a bit emotional this week, my sense of humour seems inappropriate really , but it seems to be helping me not go mad today!!

Now I have to find something appropriate for wearing near a rabbi, as its so hot and all my maternity is strappy, the only correct stuff I have is long sleeve , which is far too much in this heat ???????

Bhm your post made me larf !!!"sweating like a biyatch".

Melsy glad I made you smile chick , keep ya chin up and hope the prayers go ok x

hi ya my lovely friend has just gone home with her 15month lil boy hes such a sweetie i feel like an evil monster as he screamed all the way thru his hair cut

my friend had a c section and she was saying she recovered really quick and would definatley have another one

must say the more i think about it the more appealing its sounds i would have a definate date would be able to have sex with no problems after [ihave a very high sex drive and i think it will very hard for me after] sorry if tmi must say would love to know from the mums that have had one arabica ? etc

was nice to have a chat with someone in rl for a change

melsy cant you take a thin wrap to put round shoulders

glad you humor is working melsy

hears to all the working mums nearly finishing not be long now arabica has only got 20 odd days left now how exciting

Well, after dropping off ds at nursery this morning, I decided to go clothes shopping at our shopping centre as I have got 2 weddings to go to - one in 2 weeks time and one at the end of August. I'll probably still have a jelly belly for the second one so whatever I get will do for both. Went in Mothercare, H&M, Marks, etc and saw nothing suitable. Then decided to go into Evans and got two tops! All I need now is some nice shoes and a matching bag and perhaps a hat! (but I'm not really a hat person). Think I might need a new black bra as well - my bras still fit me but I've had this one over 2 years and it's getting a bit yucky looking. This heat is really getting to me at the minute. Thought I'd be ok at the centre but this is the week that they decide to install new air conditioning so the old one has been turned off! Nice . Anyway, ds was picked up at nursery by his nannan and when I got to their house, was told that they had lost his sunhat at school (the school not his nannan!) Wouldn't normally mind but that was the only one that covered his ears and back of the neck up and had his name wrote in it! I've now got to go out this afternoon and get him another one!

Sorry for the moan - how is everyone doing?

sarah lou hugs babe last you need

i had a feather thing in my hair was quite fetching cost 12 quid from next

Hope you find something rabbi-suitable, Melsy. Smoked salmon and gefilte fish, mmm...but my top favourite is chopped herring, oy vey it's gorgeous! I'm lucky cos I live near some good delis; Stamford Hill, up the road from me, is home to the Lubavitch community and they do great food (their dress sense isn't so great, however). I describe myself as a secular Jew, which basically means I do bagels but don't do bibles, brisses or barmitzvahs!

Afternoon all, totally with everyone with this ridiculous weather, i'm currently munching my way through a box of 40 scooby doo ice pops (£1 from Asda!)and contemplating braving the outdoors to fill the car for stuff for dump!! Managed to finish work 2 weeks early and not having to start maternity early, how cool is that! Insisted that if i was going to have to start mat early (been off sick for 6 weeks-depression) then i would go back to work and screw up thier plans to cover me considering not one person has contacted me from hr or management in all the time i've been off! Do i sound really ungrateful?? Oh well this cookie is starting to toughen back up!
Hope everyone is ok
xx

BHM, your poor hubby! Doesn't he realise we never win on penalties? They don't know they're born, do they. My DH was upset about an insect bite. You'd think it was a bloody cobra that had attacked him--his right ankle was slightly swollen whereas mine are now 11 inches wide--next to it DH's looked like a chopstick.

sarah lou I just bought a lovely outfit from New Look of all places for a wedding intwo weeks....

White lineny trousers (REALLY COMFY) they also come in 3/4 but my ankles too big lol. Plus a very long strappy top in green and white pattern with sequins, it ties under boobs so you look pg not fat!

Arabica, he was crying before the penalties had even started lol? Whats that all about? he was so sure we were gonna win the world cup this year! Dream on! Lol at your DH insect bite upset! They would never be able to cope with what we are about to go through would they?

Sarahlou have you tried debenhams? Saw some lovely things you can stick in your hair perfect for weddings and wont mess your hair up like hats do. Hope you find something nice soon hun.

Frodo you lucky girl finishing 2 weeks earlier bet your relieved. At the end fo the day your just another number to them and they couldnt even be bothered to ring and see how you were? Typical! Good on yer I say! Hope your feeling better x

Luna did you get them from normal section of New Look or were they mat wear? I looked in there yesterday and couldnt find any mat wear althought I'm sure they were having a new range fo maternity gear earlier this year? Ended up buying from Asda and H&M in the end!

My dress is very damp after sitting on my ass all day long and swaeting me cobs off! Have a fan blowing behind me but its not doing me any favours! Feel the need to go jump in a canal or something daft?

BHM - mat section of new look, a new one opened locally. Limited choice but these two lits are lovely.

Luna & BHM - went in New Look but they only do maternity upto size 18 - I'm more of a 20! Anyway, will go to Debenhams probably tomorrow and see what they have got in the hair department. Currently munching my way through a box of sun lollies while ds is asleep on the sofa. Will probably have to go to tesco when he wakes up 'cause I haven't left any for him!

all this talk of lollies makes me NEED a lemonade sparkle or three......

Hello all,

I thanked god for this site this morning when I couldn't get my (38 E) bra on this morning... Having read that everyone else is also expanding around the ribcage meant that I was able to laugh rather than cry...and just grab another one!

My work have installed an air conditioning unit in my classroom but it doesn't seem to be doing much conditioning yet. I keep catching the kids standing in front of it and I'm like "Oi! Who's pregnant here? Move!"

preparingfor2: You're spot on when you say I never thought I'd be having children here. When I first came over I was all "Who would have children in this dirty horrible city?" Now I'm addicted to London and I can't remember why I didn't think it would be good for kids. It's taking me a while to get used to the idea that my baby will be English though. At least your partners Aussie so your two will be pretty much Australian!

Talking of big boobs - I have just spent the good part of 2 hours searching online for a black soft cup bra in size 42G that I need for a wedding in 2 weeks time. Could I find one? - yes, if I wanted to fork out £39 plus £5 p&p! . Can't wear underwired one and don't feel ready to wear nursing one yet but may have to! All the others tend to be white or skin tone. Think I might stay at home instead!

just spent the last few hours on the beach and had a swim inthe freezing atlantic water.... fabulous! feel so much cheerier now

feel like such a bad mommy at the moment though, keep sneaking treats during the day and dd invariably catches me and i have to give her some... felt awful today when i noticed she's getting fairly chubby round the middle i can manage without everything but the ice lollies but we go through a fair few of them every day, esp in this heat, anyone know of any tasty suger free ice lollies i could switch to?

Hi all, how are we doing?

Haven't been about as i've now given up work and sods law, my feet have given up so i'm dropping ds off at nursery, coming home, bathing my elephant-like ankles then hoofing back to school. Then i sit down and sleep.

Have got everything clean and ready apart from my hosp bag. Shocking as i've been packing it since 28 weeks and now at 35+4!!!!

Well off to eat some cucumber and put my leggies up!

Take care everyone x

Pink, i always make my own for ds. Just put a tiny amount of apple juice in with water and he loves it. Thinks its a treat. And i feel less guilty in the process.

P tulips , sainsburys do these smoothy things in soft tubes in the yogurt section (4-5 in pack I think?), I put them in the freezer , theyre just pureeed fruits I think.

Morning everyone!

All this talk of ice lollies is making me dribble onto my desk! Doesnt feel as hot as yesterday in the office - I am coping today! yesterday was just a killer - couldnt concentrate on anything except MN'ing lol!

I weighed myself this morning and ohmygod I'm piling on weight like there's no tomorrow and I'm not overeating either which is just crazy! DH keeps laughing saying its going to be 10lber like the midwife said! I'm in denial - must be water retention lol

7 more get-ups to go till I break up from work

I feel sick today, i think it's nerves for my scan tomorrow. Just hoping I can get my work out of the way, it's going so slow...
wish it was this time next week, with cooler weather, my scan over with, a firm date for the c/s and absolutely no work to do.

best of luck arabica xxxx

oh you do make me lol bhm , you have such a great sense of humour !! Just what I need today , as have therapy after lunch YUCK. I dont know how I eat on Tuesdays.

Glad the days to not working are coming soon bhm , youll be on here all day!!!

pink , your dip in the ocean sounds fab right now , Im very ous !!

Last night was ok at the Shiva , everyone was saying I looked good ,even though I was trussed up like a turkey with my strap belt belly thing, I have to wear layers to hide it all. Was sad to see his pictures all over the place and she had the kitchen table set for one for her supper after the service was done. Was quite poignent. I have the next shiva tommorow , but going during the day , as cant face another evening of prayers.

dd is sitting in front of cbeebs far to much these days ,its been on since 8:30 , Im either on here or doing minimal housework. Although she does come and sit with me doing coluring and stickers at intermittant episodes. Oh and I do get hugs thrown in!!!

Got to get her ready for nursury now , bless me mum coming to take her for me. I do need to do something for all my family helping out half the week.

aww Arabica missed your post there , with me (yuchning) on!!!I know of the anxiety you feel , although for different reasons. I keep trying to use distraction techniques, but not many sitting in the same room every day. What time is the scan ? Whose going with you ?

Thanks. Glad shiva not too ghastly. Scan is at 9.40am and DH coming with me, hopefully not in denial mode. Afterwards we get a tour of the neonatal ward just in case baby needs special care. I'm looking forward to that as it'll make me feel less anxious if s/he needs to be there.

Hi everyone, isn't this heat crappy for us lot?! I just feel like wallowing in a cool bath but have dd to entertain so not very likely lol.

Have been to see the consultant this morning, nothing will change, i will still have section @ 39 weeks even though baby is BIG, tummy is measuring 41 weeks (sob sob)and i feel like my whole under carriage is gonna fall out lol. I really wish this stuffy weather would just p**s right off

Baby is just pushing his bum up now, not much kicking as such, poor lamb! all squished lol, been having loads of braxton hicks too.

Arabica...Hope your scan is ok, thinknig of you xxx

LOL undercarriage falling out. Thought that was just me! Sometimes it feels as if the baby is trying to navigate a 3-point turn with its bottom, but it gets disillusioned and gives up. Bit like me when I was learning to drive (only managed 15 lessons).

Melsy, I wont be able to come on everyday when I break up as dont have a pc at home but my parents do and they live 5 mins away so will get my fix somehow!

Arabica I hope everything goes ok at the scan x x

Pucca, am with you on the weather, I'm praying for snow, hail and rain at the moment..anything but this sticky hot sweaty sunshine! Never hated it so much! Have you got a date for you C/S yet?

BHM...No they won't give me a date yet, don't see the prob myself, i asked today if they could give me my proper date because DH is a manager of sorts and needs to organise all his workload for when he is off on paternity, but they said it likely to be 14th Aug and will give me actual date in 2 weeks...grrr!! lol.

Hello Everybody!! Wow I knew with missing a day on here there would be loads to catch up on!

Arabica - Am thinking of you with your scan. Look forward to hearing how it goes!

Booby - Glad you are feeling happier - the ups and downs are bizarre arent they? of your pool!

Pucca - Wish they would give you a date!! That would be so much more convienent!

I know there must be three million other things I meant to say, sorry for forgetting it all but my brain is fried and I just cant sort it all out.

We had a busy weekend doing fun things for Salamanders birthday - it was great but almost all outdoors and walking and it all got too much for me. I was suffering really badly so today I am just staying in and relaxing... although I dont know if you can call it that since I still have housework to do, a MW appt this morning and parentcraft class tonight... so I am getting really upset and stressed because there is always so much to do. I never feel like I have got even half of it done and I can just relax and its been like this for weeks and weeks. I need a break badly, or a servant!

Hope everybody is staying as cool as possible - this heat is EVIL for us heavily pregnant women!

I cleaned the fridge yesterday, as it was an excuse to stand somewhere cool!

In general I'm not doing too badly though. I always hate the heat, so this doesn't seem worse than usual at the moment.

I've taken my back support off for the last couple of days, because I think that the limp I've developed after mangling my toe is enough to deal with. My back needs to be able to compensate for that, and it couldn't when it was all strapped up. And it's a bit itchy in the heat.

arabica, hope the scan goes ok sweetie, i'll be thinking of you.

just been in town buying dd and baby their presents from each other. got a cute little bear for dd to give baby and dd picked an activity table thing that'll drive me up the wall that she'll get when the baby comes. starting to feel sorted now as i managed to get a sling for cheap on e-bay and theres not really much else we need except bits and bobs that i can send dp out for if i need to. bit of an anti-climax though as i've been running around like a headless chicken for so long i don't really know what to do now that i'm somewhat organised!

got my scan tomorrow to check whether placenta has moved so fingers crossed it has and i won't need a cs as the mere thought of it makes me cry.

melsy, hope therapy goes well and doesn't leave you in to much of a mess this week

Pucca thats rubbish aint it, especially if your dh needs to arrange stuff around it? Hope you get your date soon so you can get yourself prep'd.

Eeny go put your feet in a bowl of cold water - I'm at work and have just been told to go sit in kitchen with my feet in the bowl lol! was soooo refreshing and has cooled me down loads! Housework can wait cant it?

I cooked chicken fajitas last night and felt like I'd done a 2 hour workout the sweat was dripping off me and my back was aching, am officially off cooking duty until after the birth and DH said he'll do it from now on bless him! Really dont know how he puts up with me at the moment as was moaning about the heat all through the night and that the fan in our room was hitting him more than me bla bla bla I must have woken him up 5 or 6 times with my constant winging and this morning he got up as if nothing had happened and even washed up before work saying nothing! I'm resemble godzilla during the night and he is taking all the flack! Am feeling bit guilty today!

Thanks for the thoughts BHM, needed to finish work and although supposed to be taking it easy have tried for last 2 days to clear the shed and now i'm just giving up...seriously now is the time to acknowledge that i'm not superwoman and i CAN'T do everything still whilst pregnant!

Does anyone know how much Argos are charging for fans? Got a voucher so want to spend on me and can't afford anyhting cash wise at the mo....went on to on-line banking and it really is ridic how much this baby thing costs, there are loads of tranactions for Boots, superdrug, mothercare etc and i complain that we are skint!

I know this is really pathertic but phoned dh about an hour ago as i have found 2 suspicious looking marks on my belly, think they are stretch marks and although i know i am lucky only to have 2 i am absolutely gutted as i thought i'd gotten away with it! Very upset about this so don't mock too much!

Don't worry about your mood BHM last week i was that pissed off with people taking me for a mug that i ended up pinning my sister up against the wall with a view to knocking her sodding head off-she is satan's child in disguise and i've been the only person left who would put up with her...but no more! Actually helped the depression some what too as i felt it's the most assertive and confident i have felt for a long time and now i don['t have to put up with her and her evil ways!!!! I know that sounds quite mean but my therapist agreed too so i can't have been totally in the wrong!
xx

Just thought I'd add a quick message to tell you all something that made me laugh today at work (Yr 1 class in a Primary school).

We were reading a poem all about love and I said,
"What's adore?"
Child: "Something you open."

Frodo, we bought a tower fan from asda which swivels and its fab, bought it for £30 so not sure if you want to spend that much! We take it everywhere with us lol, bit like a pet ha! It comes to bed with us at night and even into front room to watch tv with us and its light to carry.
Re stretchmarks, I am checking myself for them as we speak as been too lucky so far not to have any, my stomach is going bit blotchy in places and I am preparing myself for them to appear in the next few weeks, slapping on the cream good and proper! if they come they come and at least there's a beautiful story behind them.

Aussiemama, lol at that comment - kids do say the funniest things- so innocent bless!

Hopefully going to pick up our new car - aircon at last yeah!

hello everyone!
arabica, hope yuor scan has gone ok.
melsy, hope you are ok after your appt.

had to share this one with you all - just got stuck in my cardoor in the supermarket car park
parked in a space next to a wall,very pleased with myself as it was close to the doors etc tried to get out sideways,couldnt and then got stuck frontwards - i was mortified but at elast provided some entertainment for a man waiting to be picked up !! I'm on strike with shopping
from now on!!

Hi All,

Hope everyone is well? Have been away from the chat for a few months. Just got back from Paris where I spent the weekend hiding under trees.

So Hot!! May start doing toilet paper measuring to my ankles?!

xxxNKK

Cheers BHM think i've got about £30 in vouchers so will have to beg if any more!
Alas the stretchmarks were scratches! Been looking at them all afternoon but looking like they are disappearing....phew! Good reminder to keep on with the potions though!
Olivo can totally sympathise, had the same experience but had to then clamber into the passenger side to get out and found myself in a compromising situation with the gear stick!!!!!

frodo - found one for you at Argos!
try this

I have learned that lesson Olivo, and I always choose an end space now so that I can definitely get out/in the car!

Olivo you poor thing!! Have you recovered from your unfortunate incident?

Purple - I couldnt wear one of those braces right now! i can barely bring myself to get dressed!

Pink - good luck with your scan! Hope your placenta is behaving itself!

BHM - Sal is good to me like your husband. I have a fan I take from room to room with me, and one that is always on my bedside table so at night there are two fans pointed at the bed. Poor Sal says he gets totally blown away but he knows I couldnt cope without it! I'm so you are getting a car with a/c!

Frodo - glad they werent stretch marks! Let us know when you have got your fan!

Aussimama - that's cute! Kids are so much fun when they arent being little tyrants!

Phew! Wow I was determined to remember all the things I was thinking of saying while I was reading all the posts.

Had our first parentcraft class tonight - it was good. I know this might sound foolish but I am not really scared of a 'normal' labour. I am TERRIFIED of any complications. Just wish I could fast forward a few weeks!

Morning all....I've been putting off posting anything for a while cos all i want to do is winge. One last winge then i will promise to be positive. ANKLES!!! Got in the bath last night and tried to kneel - OMG it was like when you try to make balloon models - my limbs so engorged it was not possible. My skin is like sausage skin with all the meat sizzling and swelling inside - what can i do???? burst into tears like a big wuss thats what.
Anyway scan tomorrow...do you think they'll try to imprison me at the hospital because of my ankes/feet. Somebody should apprehend me - its criminal. Should be a tad cooler today - all enjoy .x

Morning everyone hope your all ok

Lol at Olivo's incident on the car park, I've done that too, its so embarassing isnt it? My parking has gone awol noe and have decided to start parking over the lines so nobody can get near me lol, I do it while nobody is looking though .

Know what you mean Eeny about being scared of complications more than normal birth itself as our bodies cope with labour but we tend to panic at the mention of any complication dont we? I know I'll cry if they say baby is stuck or in distress and then go into panic mode and think the worst?

Lol Bumble at sausage skin! Good to know we are all feeling similar then as my skin feels like its gonna split on my legs and feet...but mine look more like uncooked sausages - white n pasty with hint of pink! mmmm

Managed to have a decent kip last night we put the fan on a stool at end of the bed so can feel the full force and also slept with wet cold flannel on my pillow - worked a treat! (Saw the tips on GMTV yest morn lol!)

hi ya not gonna say much so hear goes

had a lovely day with dh yesterday and had second parentcraft class which was much better

have booked to see mw tomorrow so i can discuss my hormones as they have taken over

glad evereyone is ok

booby hope your hormones calm down - if your MW gives you any advice please pass it on to me!

bumble - sorry about the ankles!! you made me laugh with your description though.

BHM - the problem is I am planning on giving birth in a MW unit, not a hospital. So if anything goes wrong mid-labour it will mean an ambulance journey. I am really scared about this and am having trouble coping with the idea. I wish someone could just reassure me there will be no complications.

It rained here for like 3 mins - hard but then it stopped. I want A LOT more, I want it to rain all day, for the rest of the week for that matter so it cools down.

Eeny, only advice I've been given is to keep as mobile as possible and walk around as this gets baby into best position and also try to relax, not sure if I'll be doing either tbh. I definatley dont want to have epidural as I think this may lead to intervention which could cause the complications but at the end of the day everybody's birth experience is going to be totally different and we've just got to go with the flow I suppose. Let nature take its course and pray! I'm not allowing myself to worry about the birth as I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. I'm sure you will be in good hands and if you need that trip to hopsital it will only be for the benefit of you and little Alex.
Sorry I think I rambled far too much then oops!

Booby glad your 2nd class was better! Hope you are more positive now.

No rain this way

o no, i don't want rain! if it's hot i can go to the beach and swim, but when it rains i'm stuck in the house and it's still all hot and muggy... ick!

had hosp app this morning, long tedious and once again no proper answers to anything! i might have an infection of some kind as there were leucocytes(sp?) in my urine, they're doing more tests to find out. placenta has moved thank god and baby is well down but we didn't get to see anything on the screen as it was one of those little portable scanners and the screen was small and filthy and the room was too bright so didn't get the look we were hoping for . differant doctor this time and he also made a very random comment on baby's size 'he's a fine size' (fine in ireland often being used to mean big) but didn't say what size that was. last time from 30+ weeks i had somene tell me roughly what size dd was everytime i went in. especially when my dates could be miles out i'd like some indication of how big he is as it might mean he'll be a bit early!

anyway, moan over... how is everyone? booby, sorry your still feeling hormonal pet, hope things get better soon.

how did your therapy go yesterday melsy? and arabicas scan?

nice to know other people are having trouble getting into cars, it's people parking next to us so that i can't get past the mirrors that drives me up the wall, one of our neighbours keeps doing it and i have to walk the long way round the back of the car everytime... v. embarrassing!

glad your placenta has moved PT.

Arabica, how has your scan gone?

Feel very dizzy and tired if I walk over half a mile. Feel like an OAP.

know what you mean luna, decided to stroll with dd from hospital to the landlords office to pay the rent after my appointment, it's only 1/4 mile away and i almost collapsed before i got there! although dd wanting to be carried most of the way didn't help!

Luna, I cant even walk around asda for 5 minutes without getting backache and feeling like I need to sit down! My right ankle looks like its swallowed a golf ball and it is achey today! Didnt think it would come to this!

Take my hat off to any of you lot who are coping with a toddler too! PT how did you manage to carry your DD all that way? A carrier bag of strawbs n cream was bad enough for me lol! Nice to know your baba is well head down and placenta moved out the way, bet your glad!

BHM, carry a while, let her walk for a while, carry a while, let her walk a while... we don't get there fast but we get there

HI everyone!

booby - sorry you're feeling so hormonal - hope your mw gives you some good advice.
glad I'm not the only one struggling to stagger around at the mo - had to very patiently explain to some students why i wouldnt be able to do the school's 10 mile sponsored walk next week

another embarrassing episode at the supermarket today - parked the car well away from any walls and other cars but nearly fell into the freezer leaning over to reach for something where has my brain gone? I'm going to have to employ a personal shopper or something - cant humiliate my self any more

we had big rain overnight so its nice and cool - well, 24 - today even work is bearable!!

glad to hear your placentas moved pt

its rained all day hear weve had thunder and lightening and everything

i must say im shocked my elective c section thread has made it to the home page lots of good advice from both sides along the lines of vag births are normal you'll be fine or ihad an horrendous birth c sections are fab and much better

ive almost 99% sure the only way ill get my hormones and feelings under control will be to arrange a c section i then have a definate day to focus on and no what ifs to stay up worrying about

much of my fear im sure is from the fact im under the perinnatal mental health team and if i go there on monday in the state im in i just know they will want me in hospital for obs after ive had baby they will want me to go on antinatal depressants which means i cant breast feed i just need to sort my head out

sorry to burden you all

booby - sorry to hear you are so worried. havent seen your thread but will look in a sec. remember we are here if you need to sound off/ rant/ panic etc
take care x

thanks olivio i feel that random its hard to explain must say tho my dh is being fabulous very very understanding

Olivio...Sorry but PMSL @ you nearly falling in the freezer (i know how you feel lol)

PT...I know how you are feeling too with the coping with the toddler, my dd is 2.6YO and she fell asleep on the sofa last night (the heat and bouncing on a bouncy castle for 2 hrs lol) and ended up carrying her up to bed, almost killed me!! 2 and a half stone in weight and terrace stairs - not a good combination

Boobylicious...I can't imagine how you are feeling what is it about having a vaginal birth that is worrying you? I am fretting about having a elective section, even more so after reading that thread about the mother who had a section with twins who collapsed and died on the ward.

If you want someone to offload to or just chat to email me on foy465@blueyonder.co.uk I am a good listener and it may help to have someone neutral to rant and chat to.

Booby - will check out your other thread. Can you explain what exactly you are afraid of? Is it the unpredictability?

Olivo you and shopping just dont mix at the moment!

Pink glad your placenta has moved!

I cant work out exactly what it means when someone on MN says 'parp'

I gather it is sort of derogatory but other than that?? anybody care to explain?

Evening all hope your all ok, just sat in front of window on pc-only time i get when dh isn't here-waiting for him to return from his first driving lesson!!!! I'm like an anxious mother waiting to see how her little boy got on with his first day at school....i'm pathetic!
Booby-sorry your all over the shop at the mo, i'm on fluoxetine at the min and G.P has said he will change my meds about 2 weeks before due date so i can start on anti depressants that will also allow me to breasfeed. Can't remember what they are called but i'll keep you posted!

Eeny i haven't a bloomin clue what half the abbreviations on this thing mean, i like to just make my own up..

Anyone else keep getting stuck in the bath? Keep finding myself in a half sitting half lying down position and then that's it! I can't move...have to then lay down flat and roll on to my side...not very clever with a deep bath, i'm going to chuffing drown one of these days!

Still not got a fan because been lugging loads of shite to the tip again i've filled around 30 sacks of soil today and now achy and knackered!

Many posters have particular 'pet hates' or 'hobbyhorses' - subjects guaranteed to wind them up. Only example I can think of is hunkermunker and breastfeeding - if anyone has an encounter with an HV who doesn't support breastfeeding well, for example, and they post about it, then Hunkermunker is liable to go off on one. In this instance, she can employ the use of 'parp' to alert us all to the fact that things are about to get heated. Does that help?

It made a first appearance a few months ago. I think it was Cod's idea. I'll go and see if I can find the original thread...

Typical - no-one's posted on the thread for 3 hours, and then I cross posts! Can't find the original parp thread, but it's been in use since before Oct 05 apparently. Which is longer than I realised.

ok my main reason of anxiousness that ive amnaged to identify is ........

control

if my mw was in the room when i gace birth i feel i would be confident to tackle anythign as she is on my level and very understanding
other wise the very thought of getting to hospital not being able to use pool means active birth using pethidine and gas and air or epidural stuck on a bed and then episotomy and either forceps or ventouse

i just dont want all the what ifs im sturggling coping with the very idea if you see what i mean and fact icould be in pai for such a long time is scaring the shit out of me and makes me feel very vunerable

i beleive if i can negoiate a c section i will have a day and a time to focus on then all i worry about is looking after baby

my family are very supportive apart from my mother who thinks im being LAZY and doesnt understand

i feel i will lose it if i have a bad experience and with me being under the perinatal health team they will fill me full of drugs and i will be a numb mummy which i dont want id like to go into this feeling empowered and in control
not thr nervous scared anxious wet mess ive turned into who i must say i dont recognise

sorry if ive gone on maybe this explains how feel

sorry to be a downer

Have you seen the MW today, or is that tomorrow?

no its tomorrow as she is only at the surgery one afternoon a week and i never can get hold of her any other time and its only a 20 min appt

booby please dont worry about being a downer! Really we all care about you and want to be here for you. I can understand how you can feel that way. I dont think its lazy at all I think it's scared. Have you decided you def. want a c-section, and if so are they willing to give you one electively? Is there any way of getting your MW to promise to be there and/or hiring your own pool to be used at home or in the hosp?

Purple thanks for explaining the parp thing! It's a maze sometimes as Frodo seems to agree!

Found it - that's tomorrow.

You do seem to be worrying about things that might not happen, but we all know that they do happen for some women, so it's natural to worry about the what ifs.

I think if your midwife supports a request for a CS then you should just go for it. It's great that your family are being supportive. FWIW, I don't think opting for CS is being lazy - I think it might make afterwards harder work because the recovery is longer. But that's me. Your mother will cope. Once she sees her grandchild she won't care how it came out.

I do feel quite limited in advice-giving though, and you have to talk everything through properly with the MW. Do you have stuff written down so you don't forget to discuss it tomorrow?

there will be no named mw and i cant have a home birth as im under consultant led care


btw hope im not scaring anyone on here

Booby - from what I have read on your other thread and what you have put today, IMO you would be better off booking a cs. I don't say this lightly, but as you say, control is what you need and if the factors aren't in place, you will only panic more. Yes, the recovery rate is slower than a vaginal delivery but if it will mean that you can 'relax' and get on with enjoying your new baby, then go for it! Don't worry what other people say - it's your choice.

Hi everyone! Gosh its busy on here....

Right, anyone else getting period like pains? They are coming when i have a BH but very painful. Feel really hormonal and keep panicking when dh goes off to work every morning, when i walk i have to stop as it feels like somethings gonna give and i feel sicky with it. Don't remember any of this from ds's birth but i have actually forgotten everything about it.

And i have fat elephant-like ankles!

Oh has anyone heard from Arabica? I know she was having her scan today and wondered how she got on....

PT, what did they say about the leucocytes? I had them last visit but all they said was to drink water....

Hope everyone else is doing ok in this heat.

SnowBoo, I'm having period pains with my cramps and I assume these are Bracken Hicks, as my mum always had painful ones too.

Snow, nurse said it could be sign of infection and made me give another sterile urine sample to be sent to lab. doctor said it's probably nothing, happens to loads of pregnant women, drink loads of water. so no help there then! will check on google as it's annoying me now

olivo, pmsl at your supermarket difficulties!

Snow, just found this - 'Leucocytes are white cells and these are usually seen in the urine as a response to an infection. Other findings that might suggest infection are blood in the urine or protein. Leucocytes may be present in the urine as a result of vaginal infection or bladder inflammation, and often no cause is found. It is normal for a sample to be sent to the laboratory to look for infection in this situation, but if the test has come back negative there is no reason to be concerned. Urinary infection is common in pregnancy as a result of the effects of the pregnancy hormones relaxin and progesterone. Both of these cause relaxation of the smooth muscle in the urinary tract so that the tract dilates. This effect makes infection much more common than usual. If you have symptoms of urinary infection, such as frequency of passing urine, or pain or stinging when you pass urine, or vaginal symptoms such as itching or heavy discharge, you should let your GP know, so that you can be examined and investigated if necessary. Your GP or midwife will test your urine again anyway when you are next seen. If you are well at the present time there is no need to worry'

Hello all.
Am pleased to report a v positive hospital visit for once. Baby still has far too much fluid, but the good news is the head circumference hasn't increased. There is therefore no need for an early delivery and I can go ahead with 27 July. They also think it less likely now that the baby will need a shunt. However, have been told that fluid levels and head circumference can increase in last 2 or 3 weeks. They will whisk baby off to special care v quick after the birth for a thorough going-over but I will be able to hold him/her and say hello provided its breathing is OK!
Really pleased, plus my consultant says he thinks this may well be just one of those cases where there is v close monitoring after the birth but no developmental delay ever detected. Even better news--no more scans! I don't need to return to the fetal medicine dept unless it's to show them the baby!
If we are having big sausage legs competition, btw, mine are defo a prize-winning super-salami. They don't even bother to go down at night any more!

excellant news arabica!

Awww thank god Arabica , everything goes ok now , but still sending positive and heaing vibes. xxx

Morning all

WINGE WARNING, WINGE WARNING , WINGE WARNING , WINGE WARNING !!!!!

Have got up in a really bad bad mood , not helped or even started by the fact that dd started crying in winge mode at 7am. Shes now in the most horrid way and wont stop asking for HER telly ,and throwing herself on sofa in a temper. I just dont want her google eyed at it all day. It could also be that it looks like a really grey stagnant day. OOOH am I cheering anyone up yet ???!!!

I also spent the night tossing and turning in much the same way as Booby , so I know how you feel hun , I really do. I just couldnt face the prospect of a cs. Im really not the best to talk about these things, considering my past experiences.

How do I lift this dark mood today Im so zonked and achey, my feet and ankles have also swollen up really bad and they hurt and are itchy.It seems that we are having the same symptoms alot of us,so mut be a beyond 34+ weeks thing but Im still worried about it.

oh and Ive just relented and put cbeebes on , what a rubbish mum Im being right now , as must try and do online shopping before all the delivery slots get booked. I really have left it late this week.

see I warned you !!! This poor me feeling is really tiresome for me , let alone others. I was doing so well the last year , now Im just miserable.

Arabica - excellent news!! So pleased for you.

Booby - have had a good look at your thread, and I have to say it has become a bit more about the pro-vaginal delivery people vs the pro c-section people. Just remember that this birth is about YOU, your baby & your husband, and your mental health is an absolute priority. I am so pleased you have a supportive DH, it can make all the difference. For what it's worth, if you have his support (and maybe the support of another non-judgemental family member?) whatever you choose to do will work out just fine. Hang on in there & take strength from whatever you need to.

really glad it was good news Arabica.

melsy, sorry for your crap day - i'm worried about the swelling thing too, its my hands mostly, i'm only 33 weeks today - my doctor said that if you're the kind of person whose feet swell on a flight, not to worry too much but to keep an eye on it but I'm still scared they'll find something in my wee or my blood to suggest otherwise. 2nd anti-d next thurs so i guess they'll do more bloods.

yuo'll be pleased to hear I havent been to the supermarket today - dh is reluctant to let me go agian on my own after my recent escapades - for once, i think he might be right....

should I be having BH by now? not sure if i have had any - have had what feels like a stitch a few times - is that it? its usually when i walk too far or too quickly though.

Hi Everyone hope your all well

Olivo I havent had any BH's yet, if I had I havent noticed them? And I'm nearly 36 weeks. My bump still looks very high and getting loads of kicks to the ribs and something like a bum sticks out a lot at top of my bump so I think baby is still head down thank god!

Arabica, great news on your scan hun, so happy that you will get to hold him first too, bet your feeling more positive now x

Sorry your having a crappy day again Melsy and stop putting yourself down chick! Bet your a fab mom, you cant be expected to do everything while your feeling like shite and heavily pregnant and looking after a little one. Hope your day gets better x

Booby I cant really give you any advice on what your going through but try to stay positive, you seem to focusing on a lot of negative's at the moment. You may go on to have a fantastic birth experience and wonder what you were worrying about? If you want to go for an elective CS then you go girl, dont let anybody else put you off what you want to do as its your body at the end of the day and nobody should presure into doing something your not comfortable with.

Loving my new car - feels like I'm driving a bus lol (switched from Ford Ka to a renault Scenic).

Is anybody experiencing pain in between their chest if you lie on your back for a while and try to get up?? Only happens if I'm slouched on settee in a sitting far back position or lying on my back? Its been happening for the last few weeks just hope its nowt serious!

thank you all for your postive comments they are on what i was asking about my mental health not my choice and my thread has turned into vaginal birth is best and that was not the issue
yet again

but thatnk you all arabica im so glad things are looking up at mw later so should be able to make my mind up on a plan of action to avoid meds so wish me luck

good luck booby hope it's useful xxxx

Arabica I'm so happy for you that you had such good news!!! You deserve getting some of that! Will your DH be able to enjoy the rest of this pregnancy more? Was he with you at the scan?

BHM I havent experienced the pain you described although if I am lying back I find it nigh on impossible to get up again! But I should think we are all like that these days!

Olivo - I have had a few BH but that's it.

I am now having to sleep sitting up which I am a little bitter about. My heartburn when I lay down is SO bad I can not bear it. I keep gaviscon by the bed and drink it all night but lately it isnt even taking the edge off in the middle of the night so I have to fall asleep propped up on loads of pillows. I just think it's ridiculous!

Great News Arabica!!!!

Am enjoying my pregnancy today for the first time in 36 weeks! Well, except for the swollen legs/face/arse/ankles/boobs, that is.
Melsy, I'm going to put my therapist-in-training hat on here. I think pregnancy really throws up a lot of emotional stuff (especially when there are absolutely bucket-loads of hormones around as there are for all of us right now) and it sounds like there is lots going on for you about being a competent mother. You don't have to be perfect, you know....just 'good enough'. There's nothing wrong with a bit of CBeebies (or hell, a whole week of it) when the weather's overcast and unpredictable, you're havily pg and just can't do the more hands-on things. Take it from a fellow neurotic Jewish girl. You're doing just fine!

Well done Arabica, I'm so pleased for you!

Booby, the thought of a CS terrifies me, but I think it's what's right for you. You need to think what's best for you - if you can't eliminate your anxiety now, you'll be at real risk for severe PND after....

Eeny - this might sound silly, but have you tried those soft mint rennies? They do more for me than gaviscon. Other than that, if you are scoffing fruit or fruit juice or similar before bed might not be helping too.

olivo - it sounds just like stitch tbh. I never had braxton hicks with first pg, but have had one or two severe ones this time where I thought I was in actual labour. Water makes it worse for some reason.

melsy - sorry you are having a rough morning. My ds's behaviour has gone skewif - everything's 'mine' he demands tv food toys and its driving me nuts. On the upside, today is my last day minding my two under-5s, which I'm somewhat sad about as I've had them for ages now, but I'm looking forward to a little bit more peace. Although panicking about money......

Trying to get hold of as many baby hangers as I can. Bought all ds's clothes when he was born (well before) in Next sale, and they come with the hangers attached. Haven't been to next sale yet obviously (I'd imagine it's soon???) but as I've been given tons and bought lots off some friends with girls I have no hangers as I can't find what I did with ds's! Plus I guess whatever I buy will need to stay on the hanger....

Eeny, yes DH came too & was v relieved and happy. One of the doctors was from Cairo and asked if we'd been there. I said I hadn't but my DH had spent a lot of time in the Nile (denial)!!!! LOL It's the way I tell 'em.
Afterwards I think we were both a bit shocked. We were going to go for lunch together and then we both had the same thought--because we have been so scared we haven't bought the baby anything. So off to Ikea for chest of drawers, a comfy chair for me to sit on and bf, and, er, a few packets of smoked salmon.

Oh sorry Melsy, I also meant to add that your LO will have picked up on the fact that family life is going to change--they might be too young to understand exactly how, but they do sure as hell get it that something's up! Most of my friends' older children became extra challenging in the final weeks of their pregnancies. Even my DS who is pretty laid-back, has thrown some wobblies. Although he did enjoy his trip to ikea yesterday. He said to me this morning, 'I love you even more than ikea mummy!'

LOL @ Arabica (De Nile!)

can't find booby's thread - can anyone do me a link please?

Hi Booby... I started reading your thread but stopped because as you said it was turning into a vaginal v/s cs thread.

As you know this is my second baby and I am having an elective c-section. I did not have a good birth experience with dd and after 26 odd hours labour, a failed ventouse, followed by a complicated emergency c-section i was exhausted and felt awful for the first few days and could barely get out of bed, let alone hold the baby or breastfeed her.

The consultant came to see me afterwards and said any future babies I had would HAVE to be delivered by c-section and to be honest even if he hadn't said that I would have opted for one next time round.

Everyone's body is different and my sister who screams blue murder at a splinter in her finger was able to deliver vaginally with only gas and air whereas my other sister and I had really bad births and both of us had to have c-sections.

At the end of the day you have to do what you feel is right for you and your baby and your health afterwards and sod everyone else it's not them going through it.

Have already told Booby about this in the Men's Segregation area, but I should have posted here ages ago!

i'm sure Eeny has informed everyone but here goes:

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Sorry i've been absent - main reasons are busy-ness!
I haven't had time to fully put a worthy message together which the August thread deserves.
There is so much going on there that I feel I would be missing a very important bit of info, so I leave Eeny to make sense of it all!
And she seems to do that very well!!

Blood group - yes finally finally I have a result - A+. so Eeny and I are same group but opposites as far as Rhesus goes.
which is quite sweet really - the whole opposites attract business, but it means that little Alex could well be a different group to her so we will have Anti-D at the ready...

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There we go - sorry for the lack of postings!!

Salamander

thread here

Arabica - LOL at the 'I love you even more than Ikea Mummy' I CAN NOT WAIT to have our Alex so I can hopefully hear some gems like that! I am so glad you and your DH were able to enjoy the baby coming!

I started a thread in childbirth that I'd love your opinions on but I dont think I can link to it. Salamander can you please do it for me? Thanks honey.

Luna - thanks for reccommending those! I have to go out today so I will see if there are any in the chemists - ANYTHING is worth a try! The heartburn usually isnt too bad until I lie down but in the middle of the night it gets agonising. Gosh sorry I sound like a drama queen! haha

oooops sorry being broken record guys,I know Im not going down a good road, its like an anxious, wingy, negative spiral , as keep apologising for behaviour mind set etc.Im not the best preggy person at all. Although it doesnt help that immediate family stuff is quite highly charged right now on top of dealing with my own household & crazy life of hospital & looney bin appointments!! Just need to wave my arms and have a good screamy shouty rant and then be able to go to bed and not talk to anyone all day !!!! NO CHANCE.

Thank you for your post Arabica , your last bit made me rofl. You girls have a great sense of humour , its a real tonic reading posts!!!

Anyone feel sick and losing appetite alot ? Im having to convince myself I need to eat.

For Eenywifemum's thread click HERE

No Melsy I most definitely have NOT lost my appetite, I just ate a whole family bag of ikea crisps, and 3 peaches!

Arabica, so glad you have had good news at last! About time. Now enjoy the remainder of your pg!

PT, thanks for that, will toddle off and get my water from the fridge. Needs to be ice cold before i can drink it these days!

Well looking thru my pg books so far i'm having all the symptoms of the run up to labour and thinking about it this is how i felt b4 i had ds2 two years ago....ANd i can now officially cry at ANYthing. Ds has started a new nursery which he loves but it's left me feeling really upset that my baby is growing up. He says 'oh, you crying again mummy? Don't worry, i'm here....'

So who knows, maybe i'll post soon with some news....

<<wanders off to eat more pineapple and turmeric>>>>

Melsy, i've got loss of appetite and feel really vommy most days now. Then all of a sudden piggsy-ness kicks in and i eat for England....

gawd theres me typing away , and all these posts have popped up.

Eeny Im on ranitadine 150mg , as acid is also very nasty. My gp prescribed it, but gaviscon do an over the counter lower dosage version.

Will also look for your thread eeny

lol you lot are quick today.

Will click link now eeny !

snowboo I must admit I read your thread and thought hmmmm is she in early labour. Im not normally scare mongerer). You know you have to eat like 7 pineapples or something to get the amount of enzyme needed to bring on labour !!! OUch like pure acid cocktail. My appetites like yours to snowboo , feel deathly sick and food makes me think UUUGHHHH and then a few hrs later I could eat my whole nosh box and fruit box all in one sitting.

Oh cant be very helpful eeny , never been on mw led unit and not able to this time. I hope you get some good advice and any worrys & concerns can be relieved a little. xx

Think i should maybe call my MW and see what she says.

Panicking as ds has started a new nursery but problem is i'm the only one who knows where it is!! Dh is on jury service so can't get hold of him, my emergency contacts seem to have vanished and MIL thinks Wimble-bloody-don is more important. Can't miss the game for anyone! So baby is only allowed to arrive over a weekend. Oh, and dh is on yet another stag do next weekend, thankfully only an hour or so away but sods law baby will want to arrive at night when dh is too p*ed to drive home.

Argggghhhhhh! Panic, panic, panic!!!

Ok, feel better now

ok posting again, now I do look like a proper looney chatting with meeself now wiht 4 posts in a row!!!

Snowboo whats your due date, cant find you on the due list ???? Im going to be thinking/worrying about you rest of the day now !!!!

Come sit here with me snowboo and lets do some relaxation breathing !!!!!

SnowBoo! I don't know what to say, except good luck...wonder what the mw is going to say. Keep us posted!

Its under Boopert. 4th August.But he is two weeks bigger by their records, by mine he is due on the 19th July! Have had this argument with them from 8 weeks but sonographer is adamant she is right even thou her colleague agrees with my dates. So a bit stressed as it could be sooner and i have to get my cervical stitch removed before anything happens! Or else its gonna hurt (i think. Logical side says if somethings sewn together and you stretch it....)

Right, lets do the breathing exercises. Haven't ever had classes so will try and remember from 3 years ago.

Melsy, it's 4 August I think, SnowBoo was originally Boopert, iirc?
Ooooooooooooh could we get our first birth, that would be so wonderful.

x-posts!

breath in and blow out as much of diaphram as poss , take in good glowing vibes ( I visualise sparkly golden clean air), breath out and deflate whatever you got blown out, letting out all nasties (I visualise a grey mass of something)!!!

See? Hormonal wreck! Welling up that someone remembers my old screen name....

So if he is early do i get kicked out of Aug thread into July????

Please let me stay! Its nice in here. Do poke my head into July but didn't have the same feel to it....

Am going for a short nap b4 picking ds up at 3pm then will call MW to see what she thinks!

Catch up later xxx!

hey long time since i logged on and there is just so much to catch up on, well i have one day left at work then thats me done for there year i just cant wait!!!!
olivio i am getting the same pains as you are describing, if i walk too quickly or too far i get like a deep stitch in my left hand side of my tummy just across from my belly button ( although it doesnt look much like a belly button these days)
Had a panic on this week on sat i went to a wedding and while getting out of the car i slammed my door on my bump, honest the pain so i was worried sick as i thought the baby wasnt kicking so phones midwife who assued me it takes more than that to hurt baby! but im left a massive bruise on my belly!!!! and a happil kicking baby!!
im still not very big at all dont look 35 weeks at all but apparenty measuring spot on for my weeks!! so not going to worry everyone keep saying well its less to loose when you have the baby.. but i have serious bump envy i want a big bump!!!
has any one packe there bag or could we compile a list of whats needed as i havent got a clue!!!
any help would be greatly appriechated!!!
keep well every one xxxx

SbowBoo I am thinking about you!! Hope all is going well. You know now if you go quiet & stop posting we are all going to be thinking you've gone and had your baby on us!! Of course you can stay in the August thread!! We are all a pretty good team I think.

Gosh, lots of posts since I started typing this!

Arabica – that’s good news about your scan, and that you’re enjoying your pregnancy. And it’s good you know in advance about special care. The staff at the SCBU where my ds was were totally the best and helped to make his stay there as nice as they possibly could. Hopefully, your baby won’t have to stay there too long. One piece of advice – stock up on hand cream, as you have to wash and spray on alcohol on your hands every time you go in or go out of SCBU, even popping out for a while and then back (and obviously when you change nappies). The alcohol made my hands red raw very quickly.

Eeny and BHM – yes, I remember the indigestion/ having to sleep sitting up from last time. None this time (yet), but it’s good to get out of the habit of slouching on sofas/lying on your back to help with fetal positioning, and to ease the strain on your blood vessels.

Booby – hope everything goes well with your mw - shame that thread’s has now descended into a bit of a VB vs. CS argument.

As far as I’m concerned (and as I said on the CS thread) I’ve finally decided to go for a VBAC after loads of thought. If it works out, I’ll be ecstatic – if it ends in another CS, then so be it – if it’s not meant to be then that’s just how I’ll accept it – as long as baby is healthy at the end of it, that’s what matters most. I’ll just worry about it if and when it happens, and make contingency plans. But I’m feeling extremely positive about it, and the obstetrician I saw yesterday told us a very positive VBAC story - his wife had one – so that makes me very hopeful and confident in the care I’ll be receiving. However, I’ve been booked in for a growth scan in 2 weeks time (I’m 33 weeks now) - my ds arrived at 35 weeks, so getting past that stage will be a bit of a milestone for me.

Just managed to catch up with everyone else's news... and there's alot

Aprilgirl, I've had my list ready and got DH to pack my bags for me as I wasn't feeling too well yesterday and after my appt with the consultant i think I will be having this baby soon even though I am not due until 31th Aug.

If you want to know what to pack let me know and I can start off the list.

I am currently measuring 36 weeks even though I am only actually 32 weeks and I am going for a growth scan tomorrow. Even the consultant was surprised at my size and has said that I will be having a c-s @ 38 weeks (it was 39 intially). She's also said I am not to labour because of my previous c-s and should I start getting any signs of labour to get myself to the hospital. Needless to say DH is craping himself

I forgot to say - I tried to get those Rennies chewables from the chemist but they didnt have any Will look for them the next time I can get myself to another shop!

I've compiled a list of things to pack based on P&B mag and a previous thread on MN - do a search on 'labour bag', I think that is how I found it. This weekend Sal and I are going on a shopping mission to make sure we have everything and I will pack it all up then. I'm 32 wks tomorrow but I like to be prepared!

Hi ladies, all coping ok in this weather ?

Juat had another scan as measuring small. baby is fine , around the middle centile (not sure what that is) but is around 5.5lbs - with 4 weeks to go, that sounds just fine to me.

Bloods came back low - 10, so have been prescribed iron tablets - ferrous gluconate to prevent me getting constipated.

Well have been working on my list for hospital bag and is something like this:-

Preg notes & birthplan
2 nightshirts
3 pairs of knickers
Pck of desposable pants
Pck of Maternity towels
Bath Towel & Flannel
Dressing gown
Breast pads/Nipple cream
Flip flops & slippers
Facial Spray
Mini fan
Comfy tracky bottoms
Vest / t-shirt
Nursing bra
Tens machine
Camera
Toilety bag with toiletries
Lip balm/hairbands/clips
Pack of newborn nappies
3 baby sleepsuits
3 baby body-suits
Hat & scratch mitts
Baby shawl/blanket
Coming home outfit for baba
Cotton wool
Nappy cream & wipes

Thats about it - if anybody can suggest anything else much appreciated!

BHM - what about a list of people & their phone numbers who you will want to call? snacks (I'm going to get those things - dont know what they are called but they give you energy? I think you suck on them... ooer! Salamander knows what I mean, this is one case where I have to plead being foreign), I've heard a black bin liner is good for carrying home soiled items, and pen and paper because in case you have to jot something down to ask the MW when you have baby brain.

Thanks for reminding me about nipple cream!

GLUCOSE TABLETS

Thanks Sal

AND BHM - I dont know about you but I am packing chocolate!! And LUXURY chocolate at that!

Good thinking Eeny - bottled water and energy bar of some sort! Good idea about bag for soiled goods lol! . I'm quite sad as I know all my close family and friends number's off by heart so wouldnt need a list!

BHM that's not sad! it's sweet!

SH*T! I'm now down to my last pair of flip flops which fit me - bought several pairs over the last few months and the ones that I have on today are hurting now! even the tops of my feet seem to be risingwith the heat aswell as the ankles!

Where can you buy a good pair of flip-flops?

Sal, I got a lovely pair of cream terry towelling slippers but in shape of flip flops so not hot on ya feet from Next - ideal for walking round hospital in. Mega comfy and washable too. (I'm now having visions of me having to wear these to my best mate's 30th Birthday party tomorrow with my maternity dress - what a sight! )

Eeny crossed posts earlier - wont chocolate melt in your bag in those heated wards? Might pack a mini fridge lol - can you imagine their faces ha!

Thanks BHM for the footwear advice!!!

The Chocolate temperature issue needs to be resolved now...

Sal you might want a pair yourself when you see how comfy they are - I've caught my Dh wearing mine when I've been out ha!

HAHAAHAH BHM
i might just do that!

well BHM I was thinking of keeping the choc in the fridge til the last minute... but you are right it might melt when I get there... but I dont think I can do without it. May have to bring it with this thing I keep in the freezer that makes a wine bottle cool in 5 mins??

I worked out there would be things I couldnt pack til the last minuted because I use them every day. So I am making a list of those things, and keeping it by the door so it can all be grabbed quickly as we race out. There shouldnt be many.

Those flip slippers sounds good!!

well BHM I was thinking of keeping the choc in the fridge til the last minute... but you are right it might melt when I get there... but I dont think I can do without it. May have to bring it with this thing I keep in the freezer that makes a wine bottle cool in 5 mins??

I worked out there would be things I couldnt pack til the last minuted because I use them every day. So I am making a list of those things, and keeping it by the door so it can all be grabbed quickly as we race out. There shouldnt be many.

Those flip slippers sounds good!!

Just a tiny detail - but make sure you've got plenty of pads and disp knickers if you're planning on using them (which I do, cos you can take the whole lot off and bin it, and start again every time. Sorry if TMI ). You probably want at least a couple of packs of each in your bag.

BHM - have you considered that for various reasons your dp might be making phone calls? Mine wouldn't have a clue about phone numbers, or priority in that instance!

Have had another massage this pm, and got midwife to check baby's positon, which is now head down, probably floating in and out of pelvis. Had been worrying that it was still lying across the way, and my homebirth was going to go out the window.

Eeny, while she was massaging me the mw mentioned that about 50% of 1st time mums attempting homebirth end up transferring to hospital. Usually, because 1st labour takes so long, and mum gets tired and wants more pain relief. Occasionally there are complicating factors too, of course, but as somebody has told you somewhere (here? or on your other thread?) the need to go in is usually identified in good time and without panic. How all that relates to the situation in a birth centre like yours I have no idea! Do they have more heavy duty pain relief there than you can have at home?

So sorry for the length of this post. Will shut up now. Was actually trying to find out how Booby went this afternoon.

Re the hospital bag, I would take more changes of clothes for yourself and baby and an extra bra, in case you need a C-section & have to stay in. When I had DS I kept having to send DH home for more stuff and I really would rather have kept him in the hospital with me as the time really dragged.
I took lots of bottles of water with me as it's just so bloody hot in hospital and bf makes me swig gallons at a time.

Purple I think the most pain relief I can get there is pethidine but NOT if I am still planning a water birth. In water it's just gas & air.

Forgot who said about drinking water and it has to be icecold - and this goes for my labour bag too - I've got bottles of evian (75cl with a red sippy top) in the freezer. I have four currently (I drink all plus some each day) they defrost beautifully during the day in this weather to drink and you'll cry if like with my labour with ds the ice machine is on the blink... I keep refilling mine with tap water but the lids only last about 2 weeks before snapping. They're a perfect size shape and defrost better than reusable bottles.

Plus you can then use them as iceblocks in a cool bag for keeping other things cold.. such as chocolate And don't forget you can freeze chocolate (what we did in australia!) it's just as nice and still defrosts.

Oh BHM - I really would not bother with disposable pants. They are tight itchy and so uncomfortable. It's cheaper to get a size up from Tescos in a cotton 7 pack!

hi ya
im not mad im not mad im not mad

right now ive got that out of my system mw nikki was fab she laughed with me as i cried and assured me meds are not a big deal and not nessecary yet!!!!!!! but is fine about me wanting a csection and is putting me in contact with my coonsultant asap
what im sufering with is exreme anxiety and she thinks it will be more dangerous to labour with it than have a c section and was inceribly understanding

glad evry one is ok

i feel so much better for being taken seriously

thank you all for your concern and support

yo ho ho a c section for me

well done to the booby!

good news booby, glad your getting what you want and have such a helpful mw

Snow, you're freaking me out now as i'm also measuring ahead and convinced my scan dates are wrong and keep comparing this preg to last time and remembering feeling like this right before birth so will be watching with interest to see if you pop! (bought myself pineapple juice today in aldi ). coincidentally, can't remember who asked but the lack of appetite thing was one of the symptoms i got the week before going into labour!

does eveyone else with older kids have childcare sorted.. because i really don't and am completely panicing. my mother has offered to drive down and mind her but she lives 1.5-2 hours away and can be less than helpful at times so not happy relying on her completely. problem is dd isn't used to being left with anyone so we don't really have anyone else... at the moment it's looking like a definite possibility that dp could miss the birth and i'm seriously stressing.

booby well done!! I am really happy for you - you sound very relieved!

luna - that is so funny Sal and I do the same thing AND with the same evian bottle that you described!! I HAVE to have water ice cold and we keep it in the freezer too, plus loads in the fridge!

Morning everyone, its my last Friday at work for a long time now and it feels great!!!

Booby glad your getting your C-sect chick, you seem happy & more positive about things now!

Thanks for advice ladies on hospital bag do's n dont's! Have adjusted my list now in case of C/sect and extra non-itchy pants! What fab idea about freezing chocolate and water! Never would have thought of that! Was thinking of getting a mini cooler bag from Woolworths to keep em cool too. Purple, I hadnt even give DH's friends and family a thought re phone numbers - how awful of me? Will get onto that one straight away!

Hope everyone else is ok and thank god the weather seems to be cooling down x

Booby, am so, so pleased for you. It's great to be listened to and taken seriously. If your consultant agrees to the section it might be that I am out of hospital before you go for your op so if you want to know I will be able to tell you all about what to expect--am sure there are bits I have forgotten from last time.

Pervy me doesn't like ice-cold water! However when labouring with DS the only thing that brought any relief before I gratefully received my epidural needle, was a cold pack--someone had bought it for DH years before as a joke present and it's like a medium hot-water bottle with the words 'hangover cure' in big letters on the front!! We filled it with ice-cubes on the way to hosp. I don't think they had anything as sophisticated as an ice-machine at our hospital. I also hated the itchy paper pants. I've bought big comedy old lady high-waist pants from Primark--they need to be high enough to cover the C-section scar. They didn't have 1 size up left so bought size 20!!!!! I don't think DH will ever fancy me again.
I'm off to hospital again today--another anti-D injection & a meeting with the obs/gynae consultant to finalise arrangements for the birth, I might meet the neurologist as well to hear about the post-birth investigations.
Right essay over it's time to put feet up before getting bus to hospital.
Phwooar, Nadal is playing today--his face isn't so great but what a bod.

OK, forget sctions v vag births, neurologists etc..here's the really important issue of the day Am going to have my first ever bikini wax, eeeeek! When's the best day to have that--should I wait until day before section? I have quite sensitive skin and sometimes when I get my eyebrows done it's itchy afterwards. I'm not very hairy and the only time I've ever even had a shave was before my first section and it itched like a bitch!

Arabica

Delighted to see you here, have been afraid to ask, as your were posting as Arabica as opposed to DecafArabica.

IYKWIM

LGJ wanders off fully aware that she now looks like a stalker.

no idea re the bikini wax arabica, wouldn't have the guts myself, i'm a shaver, prefer the itch to some teenager in a white coat chewing gum and slowly torturing my most intimite areas!

forgot to say last night about hospital bag, pack some calendula cream for cuts or tears as it works wonders. and don't forget your going home cloths as asking dh/p to bring you in stuff is a huge no-no, dp brought me such bad cloths last time i had to wear my maternity pants home and they were too loose and kept trying to fall down!

I dropped the decaf--needed to be at my full strength to deal with the trials of being pg!!
Have you got any bikini wax advice for me?

PT Luckily I have a mature, non gum-chewing beautician or my bits would be staying firmly in their size 20 grannypants.

Arabica, I have occasional bikini waxes and find it best to have it done 2 days before event. Sometimes bits of wax are hard to shift at first and end up sticking to your pants. Also I find my waxed area often bleeds a little and feels tender for the 1st day or so

morning all. having a shocking day and have already been in tears twice - not good in a busy secondary school i can assure you!have only felt the baby move once this morning so am furiously eating cereal bars in an attempt to wake it up - mind you, it probably thinks its in trouble and doesnt dare move as I'v been shouting so much.

am fed up of people telling me 'it looks like it'll arrive early' and 'you'll never make it throught he last two weeks of term' - i wish they'd all just sod off and leave me to it, rather than saying that and still giving me extra work to sort out.

OMG, i'm ranting sorry - much easier to sound off anonymously. meant to be going out to celebrate our second wedding anniverasry tonight but it doesnt look like I'll be a bundle of laughs... dh must be fed up of me.

olivo, it's frustrating when people say that stuff isn't it? my dp and family keep doing it to me....'i can't imagine you've got a month left' and 'i'm sure that baby is coming in the next week'. they mean well and dp is just trying to make me feel better as he knows how much agony i'm in but it just winds me up as it makes the last stretch seem even longer. try and ignore them (impossible i know) and have a really lovely night with dh tonight. i'm sure he doesn't mind your mood one bit, he'd have to be blind not to understand how exhausting and stressful all this is for you and would probably give anything to be able to cheer you up at the moment.

I feel doubly bad as dh is just starting to get excited about it all ( I never thought he'd admit to it!) and I'm putting a dampner on it all by getting stressy. he's just emailed me to say the pushchair and car seat etc have arrived - when i told a colleague, all i got was ' oh, so you're well equipped for an early arrival then?
have to confess though, i cant wait to get home and unpack them [ wink]

I'M BACK!


I've missed you all soooooo much, lol!

I'm going to try and catch up but knowing how you lot gab on it may take a while

Hope your all ok.

Yay! We've missed you. Am off to read the morning's posts now.

YAY! was wondering how you were getting on babe

how was the move? is the new house fantastic? have you met your new mw's yet?

Hi everyone

Welcome back YF!! Hope the move wasn't too bad?

I had a pretty scary night last night see here...

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Booby, I'm so glad you saw a reasonable MW. Hope the consultant is just as co-operative. Oooh, just think, you'll be another one with the luxury of being able to plan ahead! Every so often I have to remind myself that there's no guarantee my baby will turn up on 27 August - in fact, it could turn up almost a month before if it wanted to freak me out. I just can't imagine not going 2 weeks over.

Hi!! YF welcome back!!!! It's great to see you!

Pucca I just started reading your other thread - I like how right away you get asked why you are having an elective section! I'm sorry but that is just not the time!

Eeny...I know lol, thought it was just me being touchy must admit did get my back up a little pmsl

how are you feeling now pucca? if your still sore do go see you mw just to be on the safe side.

no it was NOT you being touchy!! I was annoyed as soon as I saw that. And then she said that thing about how horrible it was for her friend. I'm sorry what a bitchy thing to say in that situation. Wish I'd been up I like to think I would have NOT been a pain to talk to! How are you feeling now? What is your assessment now? Do you think it was BH?

Yellow how was the move? How is the house?? Do tell!

Olivo I am so sorry you are having a rough day! I would feel frustrated about all that too. AND I was very similar on Sal's bday last weekend, and felt really bad about it. It's hard to be super woman! I'm sure your DH will understand! Anyway when you get home and look at your new baby things I bet it will perk you right up!

Sorry for so many posts! haha

Arabica meant to say I agree with BHM about the timing of the wax!! The last thing you want is sore waxed bits while you have sore c-section bits!! Do it a few days before!

10 more minutes of work left yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lucky you aprilgirl, how you going to celebrate?

dp is taking me for a meal tonight to celebrate.... also lunching with the girls this after.......excited at the thought...... well this is me closing down my p.c.... speak soon xxx

have fun

Not caught up yet!

The actual move went quite smoothly considering we hadn't exchanged until the removal van was loaded!
Its just a bit weird moving somewhere new where I don't know anyone. Keep feeling really anxious.

Have seen a MW although not my own. She wanted to take blood so I had to politely tell her where to stick her needle!
The stupid hospital are insisting I go for an appt next tues because of my duplex kidney. I did explain that it hasn't caused me any problems and I've already been discharged from shared care at Barnsley but apparently I'm "High Risk", WTF??
Also go for a ward tour a week on sunday.

Awww Pucca hun , what a anxious night. How you feeling today ? Have you phoned mw ?

Yer that comment about ecs was like , errrrrr not appropriate. And who was going on about terrible pain after ???????????????????? again sooooooo appropriate.

Awww YELOOOOOOW hiya , hows the house , how was the actual move ? You online from your new home?

Yep
at home.
Got free orange wireless broadband


Promise I'll read everything and acknowledge everyone in a bit, lol!

pity we weren't up pucca and we could have told her to shove off! she sounded like she's have started a lecture on vag is best if you didn't have a valid reason... cow!

ooh Yellow so if you have broadband at home are you back for good and not just at a net cafe! Sorry your new hosp. seems to be a tad on the annoying side! Hope it settles down soon.

aprilgirl - congrats!!

hi yellow!
how's it going?

feeling a bit better now, have had another good bawl - lucky i have some supportive colleagues here!

back in a bit to catch up on everyone's comings and goings

Arabica - I just went for a "dry run" IYSWIM of getting my bits waxed before my c-s. SEnsitive skin hurts more in the following 24 hrs, plus the heat can make it worse. Otherwise the wax in itself was fine, not as painful as I thought it would be - any hairy bits over the bump are stretched quite taut and the lower bits at the top of the pubic bone are still quite easy to get to .... so will report back when I think the skin has calmed down, that is probthe best benchmark.

Hello everyone else & sorry if TMI re my Brazilian!!!!!!

ROFL, dp has just walked in from dentist after yet more fillings, one side of his face is numbed up and he can't move it so when he tries to smile he looks like elvis! am in tears laughing at him.

at least you've only got 2 weeks left olivo, then super long mat leave

I give up with the catching up

Its all getting close now isn't it!

Is anyone rock set on names now?
Have started with SPD which is quite painful. Worse when I'm in bed and I have to turn over. Sometimes have to hold my bits too which is really pleasant to witness!

After discussions with dh, he decided that the TENS machine was no use with dd so have decided not to bother but go for a water birth, although my new hospital is only a 5 bed labour ward there may be a fight for the pool!

Congrats to those finishing work. Its such a relief isnt it?

Also glad to hear you've got some great MW support booby. They sound fab!

My MW have offered to stick me on a breastfeeding course if I want but I'm not sure if I'll be able to get to them so we'll see about that one.

Just wanted to share this.

Went to B&Q the other day to eye up some garden furniture and was helped by a lovely lady.
She immeadiatly spoe to dd and said "Your mummys having a little boy isn't she" No.1
Then she said
"Your due next month aren't you?"
No.2
and then said to dd
"I think your 2.5 years old"
No.3!

She then finished off all her weirdy speel with "Btw your going to have that baby at the begining of August, he won't arive on the 13th"




B&Q lady is my new best friend.

wierd!

hope for your sake she's right

yellow! bizarre!

PT - you're a meany, laughing at your dp

am feeling a bit better now - and only 1 hour to go till the weekend!

only fair i get my fun... he's pissed off to bed now so won't see him for the afternoon.

I've got an Elvis cassette of dh's that he plays to annoy me.
I'd be happy to post it to you

Hiya Yellow! How you doing? Nice to have you back seems like you been gone forever! Hope everything went smoothly with the move.

Pucca hope you ok now chick, bet you were so worried. Let us know what MW says if you are gonna call her. Had a mad thought that we were gonna have baby No.1 for a second lol!

Olivo, its ok to blart hun, last night I'm not sure why I just felt an sudden urge build up inside me to to sob, my fat feet were the biggest yet and I couldnt get comfy on the settee and felt like I couldnt breathe. I want my baba out now as I know its only going to get worse over next few weeks! Mind you, not being at work will be a blessing, 4 more get ups and I break up! Yeah!

oh good god i think dd's teething really not in the mood to cope with the hysterics right now.

aarrgghhh!

oh good luck pink - doesnt sound like fun!

I'm sad as I just finished the chocolate truffles I bought yesterday. I feel so bleak, like I really dont know how I can cope without thousands more.

What do you use for it Pinky?
I can highly recommend Anbesol if you don't already use it and Ice blocks!


I've been thinking about holding a little get together for us all after the babies arrive. I know we're all over the place but out of interest who would be up for it? I was thinking of doing it at our house, so North Yorkshire.

Sorry i disapeared, went for a lie down

Pmsl @ all your comments though, made me smile must admit it was not exactly the time or place to be going on about sections, thats why my reply to her was a little short.

Still do feel a little sore, but baby moving fine, it was just really really weird and i really thought it was proper labour for a while and started to panic, not phoned MW didn't see much point really, anyway thanks everyone and hope you all ok?

Booby...Forgot to put, i am glad you are feeling a little more reassured and that you got a lovely understanding MW to talk to about it, as everyone else has said the way your baby comes in to the world is not important and your decision as long as you are happy, and happy mum = happy baby, xxx

All this talk of having a wax job is making me wince lol, i will be a chicken and go for a old fashioned shave myself before my section too scared to get my "bits" waxed lol.

Have you got a small bump Pucca because I can't see my bits anymore.

I'll be suprised if the MW's will see the baby come out. Its like a Jungle down there!

Unless dh wants to do it which I doubt very much.

Still catching up lol....i agree with the anbesol for teething! fab stuff and doesn't slide off the gums like teething gels do, just make sure if you go to chemist you ask for anbesol and not anusol lol don't understand how 2 names for such different things can be so alike.

we start with teetha and cammomile drops and work our way up to neurofen if it gets to the mindless screaming stage. never heard of anbesol, is it a gel?

love the idea of meetup but highly unlikely i'd be able to travel over to england anyone fancy an irish holiday?

YF...No my bump is huge lol, but a mirror in the bath should help don't care if it not neat as long as it not bushy

Feahters, can't see my bits to shave either but i do it by feel and get dp to inspect after, he doesn't complain

PT...anbesol is a liquid and is great, great for mouth ulcers too, numbs and soothes.

Anbesol is a liquid and comes in a small glass bottle. Just dab it on your finger and ut it on. Its great for ulcers too.

I'd love to come to Ireland. I've never been but always wanted too.

once we move to a decent sized house (hopefully soon) you'll be more than welcome Feathers

anbesol sounds brilliant, must check with chemists and see if they have it. she's taken to biting my finger now when i try to rub the teetha on her gums

Awwww
teething sucks.

You can get it on prescription. Its quite expensive for what you actually get. The bottles only about 4cm tall and it costs about £4 but it is magic stuff.

love to meet up , not sure I could get all the way to yorkshire , big woos on motorways , Watford is about as far as I can go!!!! Dh misery guts not into MN meet ups so no chance of persauding him to drive.

Talking of dh Im still recovering from huge huge argy last night , and hardly slept. It was all over problems with dinner and I ended up sobbing & sobbing for 3 hrs. Lets say I didnt eat till 11 , when he made me scrambled egg in a right huff. I then was in bad pain in my back and belly all night as I got myself so upset and distraught. I seem to be very close to panic attacks with dh , he seems to be a major trigger right now (although managed not to go full into one , so I am controlling them to a point). Hes being so stupid and unsupportive.Even with my sobbing and sobbing, he was still being awful and hurtful , not right at my stage or condition. I dont normally speak about dh on mn , feel funny now. Been wanting to say something all day , but felt like I was betraying him . He has apologised this morning and phoned me when he got to work, but Im sooo zombied from it today. IM just so upset that he could be so nasty , when he knows Im having therapy and panicky about hospital. Its making all thge more fearful that I dont have his support. Thankgawd my mum will be a birthing partner to. Does anyone else get pain in belly if you get tense and upset??

sorry completely sidlened everyone today.

How old is lo pink ? or have I asked before ? Camomila powders are very good if they get seriously grumpy and fractious. Not heard of anbesol, will have to try and remeber that for a few months from now.

sorry your dh is being an ass melsy, they can be such idiots at times can't they?

she's 17 months.

Do you think he's having trouble coping with you feeling the way you do?

My anxiety has been shocking since we've moved. Dh was supposed to be doing a course away from home this week so I was going to stay with MIL however it got cancelled and we found out 2 days ago they've rescheduled it for the begining of August. I went barmy as he said he wanted to go and get it done and I thought it was totally stupid time to be away. Needless to say he lost it and he did actually say that he can't cope with me having these panicy do's. He finds it hard.
For some reason I think some men do have troube with things like this. The not knowing how to react or go on without upsetting you etc.

Hope that makes sense.

Yes totally get that yellow, I think that a lot fo men (not all) find deep emotions really hard to undertstand. DH has said he cant handle it. When I say I want sympathy or empathy , he genuinly doesnt know what thats about , how it looks, how he should behave. I never know what to do. Very hard to teach somoene compassion when its an alien concept. Is there a course they can go on !!!!

So is he stll going ? Far to near to due date me thinks. Or is it not that far away ? Seems unfair to leave you overnight.

Pink , Its those darn molars hey,you can never tell how theyre gonna react with it.

For me just a cuddle and reassurance works a treat. Dh has this remarkable way of thinking though which annoys me.
When I was struggling when I had dd and I came home with a tub of pills from the Dr's he gave me a good talking too and I felt sooo much better. I told him this and he said that if I was ever struggling during the day, just to call him for a chat to cheer myself up.

If he could just do that again!

He's not going now, I did have a big strop about it though
I know its all based on what if's but for some reason "what if's" become a reality far too often in my life, lol!

Thats it though , what we need in terms of compassion isnt alot , just a "sorry you feel yuck" or as you said a cuddle and some "Im here for you". Or in my case lastnight "okay so we cant cook what we planned(dh does ALL the cooking all the time, its his hobbie) , lets see what else we can do". Rather than banging everything on the table and stropping of that dinner wasnt ready for him when he got in late and I didnt know were he was anyway and had only just got home myself from a rather unsual delicate family matter at my mums.

yerr yellow its a kinda big "what if" isnt it , was that your negoiating stance, hed be heartbroken to miss something if he was stuck on a motorway somewere.

Thats exactly what I'd said to him.
In years to come when people ask or you think about our kids you'll be able to say "Oh I missed my ds's birth because I was on a course"
How sad.

I wouldn't mind but he can go again in November and it means he doesn't have to stay over for that one as it isn't as far. He just doesn't want to do it then because he doesn't know anyone on that course!

some men are such little boys hey !!!

I think I also threw in "Oh, I am sorry I would like you to be at the birth of our son. I apologise for any inconvienience this may cause"
In a sarcy tone.

lol I say the same types of things too. It really riles him.

It makes me feel better.


God
must decide what to have for tea. Its great having MN back but the time goes nowhere!

God must decide Yellow?
Surely you have the deciding vote as mummy!

Yellow - I can vouch that I (as a man) do have trouble knowing how to deal with various emotional situations - but your DH is off his trolley for contemplating being away at such a critical time.

Course, or birth... course, or birth...

Thats made me lol!

In fact pmsl now

God must decide

lol


It would be good if he did otherwise I fear it will be jam sandwiches or something equally crap.

You should have just left it at
"Your dh is off his trolley"

LOL Yellow!!!

oh, and don't knock jam sarnies - Eeny eats bucket loads of PB&Js (Peanut Butter & Jellys)!

oooh pb , havent had that for 8mths now.

Bork at jam sandwiches. DD can have them. I have cold leftovers of chinese takeaway from last night.
Might start a thread to check its ok to eat

YellowFeathers - I think it's your fault! this thread has gone into warp speed today

Good to have you back.

Melsy - do you think your dh could do with some support himself? I am not defending his bad behaviour in any way, but I am thinking it must be quite hard for him at the moment too.

Just had a call from a friend to say she had a baby girl last night, just one day overdue. And everyone thought it would be a boy!

How lovely for your friend

Oh, and meant to say, I'd be up for a meet-up in Yorkshire .

aww purple , great news about your friend.

I think your right Purple, its just hard with him ,as he wont really talk about it all properly, he has said once hes worried about things after babes comes, like how I will be on a day to day basis. May be hes traumatised by it all too. A little niggle always tells me you get back what you put in, but its hard isnt it when in the thick of physical and emotional pain.

I have tried so many times today to catch up and post but there is so much on here and I keep getting interrupted!

RIGHT -

phew!

God we can talk a lot!

Yellow I second what Sal said - you are right to make your DH stay home at that time. Even if you didn't go into labour it just isnt worth the risk and you might need him for OTHER things! Also I would have to talk to Sal about the meet-up but I would LOVE to meet all of you!! We are in the southeast so Yorkshire would be a big trek for us but not necessarily impossible. Would depend on if we could afford it really! But you can count us interested!

Melsy I'm sorry your DH hasnt been as supportive as he could be. I agree with Purple that maybe he is struggling a lot as well but it is hard for you. I wish you the best of luck! Wish there was something I could do. Dont feel like you are betraying him though... I know what you mean, I would probably feel the same way, but overall it is better that you get it all out than keep it locked in and it cause the two of you problems.

Pink I dont want to be cheeky but also we have always wanted to go to Ireland!! We wouldnt invite ourselves as houseguests but if we ever make it over there it would lovely to meet you! That goes for you too Olivo!

Pucca glad you are feeling better!

I am still sleeping sitting up to avoid heartburn agony... fun! This weekend is our dedicated shopping weekend for everything we need for labor bag but dont have yet! YAY!!

We need to pick a day for baby shopping too.

I've found all dds old baby things and have managed to salvage some white baby grows but nothing that will last too long.
Having said that we don't need too much.


Forgot to mention earlier, dd has had her pre-school place confirmed and she starts on the 11th Sept for 2 mornings a week and then up to 4 We're going to go down for a session next week to see what its like.

Also poor you eeny with the heartburn.

Do you know whats causing it?
There was a point when brushing my teeth set it off so I had to stop brushing them when I went to bed. Mouthwash was another culprit.

eeny did you see my post about ranitadine ??????

Yellow that will be good for your DD to have something new & fun to do after the baby arrives.

Would you believe I am already booking a place for Alex in the nursery school I want?? They are already taking bookings for his age! Weird. It's right up the road from us and as we are in a small village the next closest ones are a drive away AND I know someone who used to work at the next closest one and she said the owner is really mean to the children - would you believe if they wet their pants she makes them sit in the middle of the room in soiled clothes as punishment!!! I would NEVER let Alex go there so i am securing his place in the good one now!

I dont know what is causing it - I only drink water so it isnt like a fruit juice thing - Melsy I DID see your post and I actually meant to ask you, is that a prescription thing? And is it liquid like gaviscon? And safe to take while pregnant? Sorry to bombard you with questions!

Sal is home from work now so I am going to go catch up with him but I will be on again later tonight! Everyone enjoy your Friday evening!

eeny I get 150mg on prescription as a pill, had it prescribed with dd too, its meant to be a very old fashoned remedy. This one is 24hr acting, you take one every night at bedtime. Its been the best thing , as cant do gaviscon liquid, makes me retch. The only thing is that its so bad now (the acid)that it doesnt seem to last for 24hrs , or its that Ive taken it for to long.

There is also an over counter version by makers of gaviscon. Thats only 75mg and that lasts 12hrs

There are some threads on it.

Melsy, I don't think you need to feel that you ought to be supporting your dh - you're really not in a place to do it. I was thinking more along the lines of professional help tbh - like your GP, or a counsellor. Somebody who will have seen what he's going through and might be able to help. I know a lot of blokes don't like to own up to a problem, but I'm sure there are plenty out there who are glad they did, or who wish they had. (IYSWIM)

god, turned off pc as dd was throwing a right fit and come back and theres about 50 posts! can't keep up with ye!

eeny, you and sal would be more than welcome to visit, be so cool for alex and my lo to meet!

feeling really crampy today, not sure if it's just stress and tiredness or should i be running out and buying the last things i need for the labour bag.

Feathers, what age is your dd? trying to decide what age we should think about sending dd to montessori but can't decide. that playschool you mentioned eeny does sound horrific! how could anyone send their lo's there?

melsy my dp is usually just like yours, completely non-understanding of how i'm feeling and why i'm so hormonal but for some reason he's been really sweet the last few days, giving me lie ins 'because you deserve one sweetie' and helping out, and am i grateful? no, i'm suspicious he's up to something/wants something!

No didn't see your thread. Tbh its very rare I get it now and if I do I can pin point it to something I've eaten or drunk.

Eeny, how annoying if your not having anything to cause it.

According to the last GP I saw back at the old house, she said she didn't see anything wrong with taking normal over the counter stuff when pg! I wanted something for my upset stomach for weeks and every MW and gp said not to take anything for it. This Gp told me to take Immodium and it wouldn't be a problem (note, at this point I was checking for some kind of NHS badge or ID to make sure she was a Dr!)

Pinky, she'll be 3 in October. She could start now but they said to go for Sept when all the newbies start.


So cute thinking about them making little friends
It doesn't suprise me Eeny about you having to get Alex's name down now, especially if your in a village.

eeny, keep forgetting about your heartburn question... do you drink tea? because i had very bad heartburn with dd but as soon as i started to get it this time i switched to drinking hot chocolate after about 5/6 in the evening and i haven't had any heartburn since.

Melsy I will ask my Dr about that heartburn medicine it sounds good! I hate going to the Dr's but I will have to if it stays like this a few more days.

Pink I do drink tea! And I never would have thought that could be the culprit! I have a cup in the morning and a cup at 6 (Sal and I have tea every day at 6, how stable is that?!? haha) I will see if cutting the evening cup out will help! And we'd love to visit!! How great is it that we all have babies the same age - ok I KNOW that is pointing out the obvious but who cares! And please, if anyone fancies a trip to our neck of the woods please speak up!

Thanks for not thinking I am mad for securing Alex's nursery place - I was worried if I told anybody they would think I was being a VERY neurotic Mummy but its either book the place or send him somewhere HORRIBLE which I wouldnt do anyway!

Eeny - I had to apply for a nursery place in february for this little one - a yuear and a few mon ths before i need it but its so popular that i was advised to do it. i'd just had my 12 week scan! About a month later we were offered a place and had to put down a £500 deposit! really happy to have it though.
had a lovely evening last night, went to the hotel where we had our wedding reception for dinner - they were quite entertained to see me sporting a large bump 2 years on!

one last thing, our pram arrived yesterday but dh has heard of some superstition about not keeping a pram in the house till the baby is born? has anyone elese? i'm so excited and want to set it up and have a play - i dont want it to sit in the PIL's garage. what do you wise women think?

Morning all.
Won't be on today but I just wanted to get a general opinion from you guys.

I passed out again this morning and once again I feel like crap. Every time I see the Dr and MW's they say I'm fine everything is fine but I know it isn't. Its like banging my head against a brick wall. Dh will get in to trouble at work if I keep calling him and I've no one else really to rely on to help me out when I need it.
I'm so fed up with it and the only light I can see at the end of the tunnel is when this baby arrives and my body starts to try and get back to normal.
So I'm thinking of asking about an induction at 37 weeks to end this hell. I have no idea if they will entertain this and if they can/will do it. I know C-Sections they will do but again not sure under these circumstances.

I've bawled my eyes out on the phone to dh this morning and told him and he thinks I'd be silly to do it but I really have had enough.

What do you all think? I would really appreciate some honest answers and I wanted to ask you guys rather than start a thread on it and leave it open for all to answer. At least here we kind of know each others circumstances and we're all in the same boat IYSWIM.

My auntie is making an hour journey to come and stay with me today so I won't be back on but will be back tomorrow.


Sorry for the rant and whining but tbh this is the only place I can do it where people will actually listen and not think I'm a raving looney.

Hope your all ok.
xx

YF - I'm no medical expert but I would say there is something definately going on here if you keep passing out! Have you had the blood tests to see if you are lacking iron or anemic (sp?)? I can understand you wanting an elective at 37 weeks if this keeps happening to you. Just keep in mind that soon you will have a lovely baby to hold in your arms and that all your pain and discomfort will have been worth it (not to mention the sleepless nights, etc! ). You know where we are if you need us. Hope other mns have got more useful info for you. All I can do is send lots of hugs and love your way.

Sorry, I misread your post, you don't want elective, you want induction !

Feathers, as far as i know they can only induce you if your cervix is ripe and ready for labour so unless you're really lucky and your body is ready for labour anyway it wouldn't work.

i'd march myself down to the maternity unit and refuse to leave until they give you a reasonable explanaton for why you keep blacking out. loosing conciousness is quite serious and their blasé attitude is highly unprofessional. you have a young child to look after ffs, you can't keep up like this!

in the meantime be gulping your rasberry leaf, curry and pineapple and dab everything with clary sage oil... you might convince baby to come early of his own accord

Aw yellow, sorry to hear this- wish i still lived up north - i would have come and kept you company. you really do need to get your best assertive head on and tell them you want some answers - maybe they will realise how much its stressing you if you did talk to them about an early induction, but as PT says, if your body isnt ready, it wont work. would you consider an elective c-section if they offered it?

in the meantime, take care of yourself and dont feel bad about asking people to come and spend time with you.

BHM - to go back to your list, having used yours as a basis for my own - you have no towel on there for your baby, and you've only listed one for yourself. I would take 2 (burgundy!)for me, and I'm getting a little snuggly one for the baby.

Don't bother taking nappy cream or baby wipes in, as the midwives will have you using just cotton wool and water anyway. Having said that, when dd was born the MW did ask if we'd got any baby bath with us (which we hadn't) but that might have been because she came out covered in meconium and that wasn't going to shift in plain water!

The other thing I've added to your list is a book. Only because I didn't sleep when in with dd, and might want something to pass the time. That might not be your thing, though.

Yellow I'm worried about you - I agree that you need to be very very assertive and get some sort of better explanation for why you are passing out. It is not normal... I mean if it were we'd all be doing it! Keep us informed of what is going on, I just really hope you get some help - REAL help!

Olivo - I'm in a panic now, re the nursery booking, I was phoning up Monday (last week when I phoned there was no answer) to book Alex in... I hope they dont ask for £500 to hold the place, I dont have it!! I've never heard that superstition about the pram, neither has Sal. Tell your DH not to worry my friend had hers in her house a few months before her baby was born and he's perfect!

I had a big cry last night... Which I wanted to talk to you girls about but I hope you dont take it the wrong way! You know I am American, I've been here over 5 years since Sal and I got married. Sometimes I really struggle - its hard thinking my baby will think of me as a different nationality to him, I get really lonely for my friends at home, and basically what set me off last night was hearing someone on t.v. say some bad things about all Americans. I hear that stuff all the time and it is really hard not to be hurt by it. It just makes me feel like no matter how long I am here I wont be really accepted. Equally though - I dont think I would feel at home in America anymore. I'm sort of... neither American or European but a little of both. So wherever I go I am foriegn! It isnt helped by the fact that we havent been able to afford a trip home in 3 years and who knows when we next will so I just feel all... I dont know! Awkward! Ugh. Thanks for letting me rant. Sal is lovely and helpful but I wanted some other people's opinions as well I guess.

eeny, join the club.. i was born in holland and have dutch nationality but have lived in ireland since i was 8. over here i'm foreign and in holland i'm foreign so i know exactly how you feel. it's an awkward feeling isn't it?

as for the pram superstition... dp's dad instilled the same superstition in him but about all the baby stuff, when i was pregnant with dd his plan was to go out while i was in the hospital and buy stuff as it's bad luck to have stuff for the baby before its born apparently. as you can imagine i put my foot down on that one but the buggy, car seat and crib had to live at my parents when i was pregnant and they brought them down while i was in hospital. i still managed to fill the house with babyclothes though . since seeing the chaos after dd was born (we couldn't figure out how to put the buggy together, or put the car seat in the car on way home from hospital!) he's conceded that we'll be much better prepared for this baby!

Pink I didnt know that you werent born and bred Irish. I have to say, thanks for telling me, I know there are a lot of other people in this situation but it does help to hear about it. It's just sad sometimes thinking that no one really views me as 'one of them'. I guess what upset me last night was thinking when Alex gets a little older and he hears people say bad things about Americans will he be upset that he thinks they are talking about his Mummy? Ugh. Sorry!

You have a lot of patience putting up with that superstition!! I am so super organised I have had every baby thing in its right place for months! Superstition or no superstition! Still it's cute that some of these men are bothering about it, shows they care.

Pink just put 2 & 2 together about your name! Tulips!! Which are by the way one of my very favorite flowers!

hi ya wow what a lot of posts yellow feathers hi

im up for a meet up any where we're in nottingham and have a huge garden so maybe we could do a 1st bday meet upat ours %mins from j25 m1!!!!!!!!

must say im not allowed our pram in the house big susperstition i thought everybody it obviously more of a northern thing

eeny dont be silly you know none of us will judge you maybe the aussie mums will be able to shed some light on how your feeling

must say can understand with useless dh mine is great when im being emotional useless when he is stressed and tired takes it out on me not nice doesnt ever make me a cup of tea either

thank you for your thoughs all of you im kinda of mad though as my mental health team have postponed me again so not going monday now but have got mw and anti d thurs then off to see consultant re my c section so lots of fun next week

and for all you second time round c sections what clothes did you take for baby and you in hospital

Eeny - didnt mean to panic you re nursery - the other two i looked at were asking for £40 or £80 to keep the place. this one is so expensive because the demand for it is massively high - it is for teachers and people in education so only open in term time - i know several people who have been turned down whose babies are due around the same time as ours. was gobsmacked at the deposit but desperate to keep the place.I'm sure yours wont be so hefty.

Hi all, just checking in. Still getting lots of pain and very uncomfortable now. Saw MIL's lodger who is a nurse and she has reckoned by the end of next week i'll have another boy to contend with! Ds is very excited about it all. So i have spent the whole day (and i mean the WHOLE day) packing my bag, baby bag and ds's bag and still haven't finished.

Hiya Yellow! Good to have you back....

Hope everyone else is fine, will catch up tomorrow if i can sit for more than 5 mins at comp.

Snow xx

Eeny - those type of people are a minority. I don't think your lo will have any problems with his mum being american. He'll probably think you're related to some famous movie star that's on the tv because you sound like them! To be honest, one of my best friends is Irish and although there is still a slight twang in her voice, she has lost most of her Irish accent. It's only when she comes back from visiting her family in Ireland that I notice a difference! I think you're worrying about nothing IMO but feel free to seek support from all of us mn's .

PS - I've never heard of that pram superstition and I'm up north (Sheffield)!

I've heard of that superstition, although we kept the pram in our house with ds and he was obviously fine. MIL also said we weren't allowed to put cot up etc etc - I did query about rich people who have a nursery We've stuck the crib up this time (shhh don't tell mil) but I've compromised by not putting any bedding in it so it's not 'ready'. Not that we have any bedding! And the buggy we're not even sure is definately ordered...argh.. so no chance of that being here!

YF - that's really worrying Get it sorted hun.

snowboo - how exciting! I keep dreaming mine is coming early and I wake up in a panic...

Olivo dont worry about panicking me! I'm sure it will be alright. I'll let you know though when the place gets booked!

It's funny me & Sal never heard of that superstition til it was mentioned here today but it seems pretty common!

Thanks sarahlou & booby & all for your support - It's nice just getting it off my chest & having some reassurance.

Hello all,
eeny: I have been thinking loads about my baby being a different nationality to me - my answer has been to buy a load of babygros with an aussie flag on them...I'll force him to share my nationality! I was also chatting to a mum at the school where I work who is white but married to an afro caribbean bloke so her children are mixed race and don't look much like her. She was saying how frustrating it was to have people assume you adopted your children when you're so proud that you gave birth to them.... Think that must be worse...

Can anyone help? I have the worlds most hideous stretch marks which didn't bother me before but recently they have started to itch like mad. I've been using cocoa butter religiously but it is not doing anything for the itching and it's driving me insane!!!

Hi everyone.
Thanks for all the replies. I never thought about the cervix being ripe for induction, you never know though, all these BH's might be doing something and B&Q lady might be right

I've got an appt with the consultant on Tuesday morning and then the MW on Wednesday so I'll have a good chat with them and see what they say.

I have to be honest though and say that I think alot of it is anxiety based and panicking because I know there is no one around anymore. I've spoke to my mum today as her and my dad came back of their holidays last night and I feel a bit better now I know they're back.

I'll shut up now


Aussiemama, I've been getting alot of itching around my belly button. I have been lucky and I've only ended up getting 2 stretch marks which look like scars but thats where the itching is coming from I think. I haven't used anything on them either.


As for supestition, thats definatly gone out of the window here! The babys room is full to busting and we haven't even bought anything.

Todays task, internet shopping and dh has kindly left me his credit card

cocoa butter is rubbish. Used it religiously with ds and still got covered in stretch marks.

What you need is this pot of stuff from waitrose (may have it in boots too) I can't remember what it's called it's a small pot about 8cm across, maybe slightly less high (it's round) with creamy stuff in it, white lid with clear sides iirc, pink label but with handwritingy type print???? It's about £6 perhaps, but absolutely fab, all my friends swear by it and it stopped me getting anymore. It smells a bit urgh though. They also do a body bar in lush that smells the same for 'elasticky skin' (it's not marketed as stretch mark stuff) it's soap shaped, whitey cream coloued, and on the top has three holes and a lump? The cream is better but this is pretty good too.

I'm getting really homesick for Australia.. I don't know if it's so much Oz though, or if it's just I'm so tired of the UK. I never thought I'd bring one child up here not to mention two!

luna, snap on the not putting bedding in the cot so it's not really set up for baby, haven't raised it up to top height yet either as depending on when baby makes an appearance we might have guests before then and need to use it for dd (her room has a big double bed in it so she's evicted when we have guests).

Snow, i'm getting really excited for you now! looks like you'll definitely be the first one from this thread to have your little boy can't wait to see your birth announcment!

eeny, i grew up with parents of differant nationalities.. in holland my mother was the foreign lady and here my dad is still the foreign one. it's never bothered me, i've always been proud of having parents more interesting than the other kids and i'm sure alex will be exactly the same

How are you Snow? Was thinking about you last night and how excited you must be!

Yellow I'm glad you are seeing someone soon, I really hope you get some help when you see the consultant - even if it is treating your anxiety and not a physical problem, whatever works! Have fun with your credit card!

Thanks very much everyone for your comforting words about the whole nationality ussue. It really does help me to talk to you about it and hear these reassurances. I know there are millions of harder problems in life & this is just something I have to deal with. Just gets me down sometimes.

Got a new white mat. top today to wear with a skirt my best friend sent me from the US to a baby dedication this Sunday - I love the outfit and am so excited about getting dressed up!!!

Re stretch marks. I got plenty first time around with ds when I used cocoa butter. This time I have bought a cream from the Boots Meditterranean pregnancy range - can't remember the name but it has olive oil in it. Not got any stretch marks so far with this one! I'll have a look when I next go upstairs and post the name on (bit knackered at the mo so having a sit down!). Anyway, it's in a pot/tub and doesn't smell that bad! Goes on lovely and smooth and isn't greasy!

Crikey SnowBoo!
I missed your post.
Whats been happening and when is your actual due date?
I'm so jealous!!!


Can someone fill me in in case SnowBoo's gone off and had her baby

Hello all, sorry I have not posted in so long. Ive been on holiday and really busy at work. I am due to finish next week. I started a thread on Friday as I thought I had the 'show' and ive had period type pains over the weekend. The same as when I had ds a few years ago. Last time I had no idea I was in early labour and thought it was constipation pains. Ive been catching up with you all it looks like Snow boo could be first - wishing you all the best.

Oh wow Trix!
Have you contacted your MW?

How exciting

Hi Yellow, No I havent do you think I should? I think I could have at least a couple of weeks to go yet. Im just keeping an eye out for any other signs. My ds was born at 37 weeks though. Im seeing the mw on Wed pm, will mention it then unless it really starts to happen before then!

I probably would just so I would know what to do. Especially if your ds was early too.

They may say just wait and see although at the same time prepare yourself for them saying come in to be monitored and checked out.


Can you two send me some labour vibes please. I'm 35 weeks today, I wouldn't mind going in to labour!

For all my talk I could go over, I hope not though. Have you been drinking raspberry tea and eating pineapples?

No should I?

I didn't think you were supposed to be drinking it until 37 weeks and I'd heard it tastes like pond water?

Having said that I'd eat the dirty white mushy scum thats coming out of the brick fireplace if it brought on labour atm!


Its just dawning on me now that we only have a few weeks to go!

Where is Arabica? Is she ok?

On my box from Holland & Barrets it says to take from 35 weeks but Ive seen in my pregnancy magazines that you can take it from 32 weeks. Ive only started drinking it since yesterday - I quite like the taste of.

Oh well I'm off to get some then!

God if only I'd have known.

Might even let dh have a treat tonight or every night from now on

ha ha yellow.

is this your first baby?

No its my second.

(its Nbg!)

oh hello nbg

whats your due date? where you early/on time/late with your first?

About the raspberry leaf tea, i drank loads of the stuff from 35 weeks with my dd, i went a week over due date! and i forced myself to drink the stuff, but if you like it thats ok just don't be surprised if zilch happens. .

A day out around town shopping is what got me going first time around, waters went that night

I'm due 13/8 and I was 4 days over with dd.

well im bloody knackered went to good ol skegness today and have a fab time waleked along the front played in the arcades had some chips by the clock tower and donuts by the shore and walked [well waddled] around the town then went to mil and played with the push chair and car seat and rain cover oh the fun i mean we had a practice run of putting them up and down and on and in the car

its been really nice

very exciting all these mummys maybe going into labour ooohhh just think we'll al be mummies soon is anyone still kinda of scared

hey to trix glad your back and thank god the last bloody game of the world cup is on

trix, if you don't like the taste of the tea why don't you buy the tablets? 32 weeks is when i heard to start taking it too and on the tub it says they're safe from 28 weeks.

having another fit of nesting this evening which is all very well but my back is suffering with alll the cleaning and moving stuff around!

Hi everyone and welcome back YF! I am fine and my last 2 hospital visits have been positive. I am to have a C-section on 27 July and have been warned that if I go into labour before that they will still advise a C-section because the baby will be going to special care and they need to have the special care team ready. Have told bump v sternly not to come out until the hospital is ready!
Part of me would like to deliver baby asap as I am just so uncomfortable with the swollen feet and legs. There's nothing wrong with me (no protein in urine, normal BP) it's just really, really sore and there is nothing that makes a difference.
Hoping everyone OK and had a good weekend in the cooler weather! My neighbour is 37wks and about 2-3 weeks ago she was convinced her labour was starting as she had an experience that sounded identical to pucca's. The next morning she was OK. I would have panicked if it was me. I've never had a BH contraction so I would have been sure it was the real thing!

ooh I need to get some raspberry leaf tea/or tablets!!! I can take them now! (33 weeks Friday which you can tell I am pleased about)
Pink do you like the taste of the tea? I hear such awful, then great things about it!

Arabica I do hope your baby behaves and waits til the 27th I have a feeling it will.

I also had a fit of nesting this weekend - was very disapointed that we couldnt go out labour bag shopping as we didnt have enough money to buy that stuff AND the top I needed to get - and I did need the top to wear to a baby dedication this Sunday. So labour bag shopping has to wait til payday at the end of July - cutting it a bit fine for me, I like to be organised well in advance. Instead of doing that I just sorted out loads of other stuff that needed doing - was up til 1:30 last night cleaning and organising. I could have kept going for hours but I knew I should stop. Have more to do today! Pregnancy CAN be very productive!

i was like that on saturday eeny had finished cleaning the house by 12 and had a lie down and slept for two hours

i think im addicted to orange juice and ice i cant stop drinking it must say its making me very regular and costing me a fortune in ice cube bags

i have a four foot high ironing pile and i cant be ar$ed to do it im sure its gonna topple over and bury me