To dread neighbours' extension

(39 Posts)
partyskirt Fri 22-Aug-14 15:15:52

Neighbours are just starting an extension on their house and moving out for 6 months -- how intrusive/bad will it be, do you think? What hours do builders tend to work? I don't want them messing about with baby wake-up/bedtime. Ugh.

PenisesAreNotPink Fri 22-Aug-14 15:18:04

Well it will mess about with it if your baby sleeps during the day wink

Go out for a buggy walk/drive at nap time?

naturalbaby Fri 22-Aug-14 15:18:36

Yikes! the relentless banging and hammering did my head in. It was only bad in the beginning while they got the steel supports in.

Nancy66 Fri 22-Aug-14 15:23:42

It will be noisy and a complete pain but not much you can do and you really can't expect them to accommodate your baby's nap time.

KatyN Fri 22-Aug-14 15:28:18

Our neighbours had work done and I asked the builders when they stopped for lunch. They had seen that I had a toddler and we worked out that he could go down for a nap while they had lunch. he would then sleep through whatever niose they made while he was asleep. I took them tea and bisuits as a thank you.

I would guess they will work 8 till 4 or there abouts.

RiverTam Fri 22-Aug-14 15:32:25

I'm afraid it was a bit of a nightmare when our old neighbour got his done, and I was working from home and pregnant at the time. And now the news neighbours are getting more work done grrrrrrr.

I would actually see if you can have a word with both neighbours and builders - it's all very well for them, they won't be living with it, but you would hope in the interests of neighbourly relations you could come to some kind of agreement with regard to the baby's naps. Nothing ventured, nothing gained blah blah smile.

RiverTam Fri 22-Aug-14 15:34:15

our were more like 8-6 sad, they were depressingly hardworking Romanians. We did ask them not to start any loud work until after 9, which they did, though as they'd dug a hole on our land without our permission that DH fell into, they bloody well had to do what we wanted shockgrin.

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 22-Aug-14 15:35:52

It will be a pain I'm sure and I doubt the builders will accommodate baby's naps.

Builders round here tend to start at 8am and finish around 5pm mon-fri.

We're going to be having extensive building works done but so have all of our neighbours in the last 3 years so I won't feel bad.

OldBagWantsNewBag Fri 22-Aug-14 15:36:14

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Fudgeface123 Fri 22-Aug-14 15:53:45

I work in construction and we cannot start noisy works before 8.00 a.m. or after 7.00 p.m. Obvs your neighbour's builders will be a small outfit so may not stick to those rules but hopefully they will

partyskirt Sat 23-Aug-14 15:09:08

I have just found out what they're getting --

A) a first floor extension on the back (above the existing ground floor one. They're actually having their extension extended as they already have half a second storey, if you see what I mean).

B) Their basement extended under their front room including a lightwell and window onto/under the street.

AIBU to think that a) will be hassley but b) will be less disruptive? Surely they won't be able to get a digger machine into the house and will have to do it with buckets etc quietly ?

naturalbaby Sun 24-Aug-14 06:22:04

We only had a loft conversion. No diggers. Still did my head in with all the bashing. Just cutting bricks was noisy enough. Sorry!

daisychain01 Sun 24-Aug-14 06:34:31

partyskirt

I have just found out what they're getting Im surprised you only just found out, you should have received the planning application through your door from the council. And if your neighbours were being considerate they could have nipped round with the plans even before the application to explain the work to you (and get you on-side!)

Something to be aware of is the noise of the workmen's radio! Sounds trivial, but in our last house,our neighbours over the road had an extension built and on the days I worked from home I had to put up with their radio full-blast from 8 am until 4pm. I did end up making a formal complaint to my neighbour after putting up with it for a week and they were lovely and responsive, within a day the radio was much quieter. I know workmen love their radio, but they don't think people are around in the day, so put it up to #10 until someone complains!

poohbunny Sun 24-Aug-14 06:55:40

Our neighbours are having an extension built (single story) - I joke that it's the longest building job in history as they have been doing it since March and still aren't finished! They are a small band of builders and they obviously have several jobs on the go as they appear - do a bit - and then disappear for a day or two. They rarely start before 10.00am and are usually gone by 4.00pm. The noise hasn't been too bad but I have found the invasion of our privacy quite annoying - because they are obviously always up a ladder doing the roof, they can see straight into our garden and seem to assume that if we are in ours that we want to engage in constant joking/banter. A quick hello and chat is fine but we also want to feel comfortable going into our garden to do chores / relax without feeling we are being 'observed' all the time.

Re. the specific works you have listed - I believe basement work can be very noisy and disruptive to neighbours - a lot of properties in London are having this done and if you Google 'Basement construction impact on neighbours' you can find plenty of information on this - mainly relating to the London Boroughs.

The impact on you will entirely depend on what style of house you are in though - are you in a terrace and right up next to your neighbour, semi detatched etc.

I would have a chat to your neighbour - ask them how long the works will go on for - what time the builders will be on site etc. Simply by asking them some simple questions may prompt them into thinking a bit more about the impact the works will have on those around them and being a bit more considerate.

Like others have suggested go onto your Council's planning website too to see the specific details of the work.

coffeeinbed Sun 24-Aug-14 07:15:17

Sorry to add to your woes but they won't be able to finish in 6 months.
If will be longer than that.
A basement and a new extension - that's a lot of work.

Flipflops7 Sun 24-Aug-14 10:49:14

You need to check the plans and get information about how the party wall is affected. I would recommend getting your own surveyor for this, not relying on the neighbours', who will be acting for their interests. Be prepared for loud noise and possible damp problems (we had this from neighbours' foundations, they weren't doing a basement. It was a bad time of year though, so if yours start soon you may escape damp). When they move back in it should improve as the work always speeds up when owners are around. You can also ask for later start times, particularly on Saturdays.

ForalltheSaints Sun 24-Aug-14 12:03:01

It was ordained by God it seems that builders and anyone involved in construction starts at around 8am and finishes about 4pm, however convenient or otherwise it is to those around them.

WooWooOwl Sun 24-Aug-14 12:30:49

My neighbours have recently had an extension like the 'a' you describe, it was fine. They were a bit noisy sometimes, but not enough to be intrusive.

Occasionally their builders would be able to see into our bedroom because of where they were having to work, but that's what curtains are for.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett Sun 24-Aug-14 12:53:18

A basement extension involves a lot of digging and noise. Our neighbour had one done and it was hellish. Sorry.

partyskirt Sun 24-Aug-14 13:13:32

But Lonny how did they make so much noise? These are tiny terraced houses, and they're having under their front room basement extended. Will they take all the floor up inside the room and put a truck in there?

partyskirt Sun 24-Aug-14 13:14:17

We don't own the house, only renting -- and only recently moved in (nobody told us about this).

partyskirt Sun 24-Aug-14 13:14:44

How long did it take Lonny?

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett Sun 24-Aug-14 13:21:19

I don't know how they did it, sorry blush. Th worst bit was knocking through the external stone walls to put the windows in, that took about a week total, was extremely noisy and covered everything in my house with an inch of dust.

They obviously won't put a truck in but they'll use hand diggers I guess? A truck would be better because it's quicker...

partyskirt Sun 24-Aug-14 13:39:37

Oh yes, the 'lightwell' - bastards!

partyskirt Sun 24-Aug-14 13:39:53

How long did the whole thing take?

Tallalime Sun 24-Aug-14 13:48:13

6 months seems an awful long time. My IL's have just converted two old buildings into houses in that time.

We're allowing 6 months to do the renivations on our new house (which involves reconfiguring the entire interior, taking down walls, putting up walls, new kitchen & bathrooms, new roof and chimney relined, rebuilding the fireplace - which holds up the ceiling).

I'm not sure how they're making a small extension and adding to the basement stretch out that long shock The basement part will be very noisy.

partyskirt Sun 24-Aug-14 14:01:15

Talla thanks for this, all I know is that the neighbours have moved out for 6 months. Hopefully it will take less time and they'll spend the last few months doing soundless decorating and picking up all the voodoo dolls I've made of them out of their garden

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett Sun 24-Aug-14 14:30:31

Neighbours took around 6 months but they were skint and did a lot of the internal work themselves. Cue many, many conversations about how it wasn't acceptable for them to start attaching the kitchen units to the party wall with ds bedroom when thy got home from work at 7pm!

My eon extension was 12 weeks start to finish, we stayed in the house and I work from home! It wasn't the funnest time but it was ok. Some days are noisy jobs (we had a thick concrete apron that needed dug out), some days are quiet (insulating and felt roofing).

partyskirt Sun 24-Aug-14 14:34:34

Oh my life Lonny - you must hate their guts. May you be free of building work for the foreseeable future!

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett Sun 24-Aug-14 14:39:58

They were awful! We lived in a courtyard at the time, they managed to upset every single person there. Actually my top tip would be to make sure you have a phone number for them and to not let things fester. There was nearly a punch-up between extending neighbour and another neighbour over dug-up cobbles, access and fish tanks! But they were both massively PA and it all kicked off over long email chains. Just call and deal with stuff on the spot, it makes life easier in the long run.

My own builders were lovely, incredibly polite and respectful. I heard their apprentice swear once (they didn't know I was within earshot) and the dressing down he got from his supervisor was something else.

partyskirt Sun 24-Aug-14 14:44:18

Wow well I have my fingers crossed these builders will be well-behaved. I hope the fish tank didn't get smashed! I already hate our neighbours so will have no qualms about complaining. I have actually emailed the contact person whose name is in the online planning archive to ask about how long it will take, which side of the house they will work on first (front or back), and what working hours the builders will have. Both me and DH hate things like this and it can majorly spiral us into despair, so I'm determined to be the calm and optimistic one. Just trying to work out what the damage will be myself. DH is more of a wade in and complain type.

tittifilarious Sun 24-Aug-14 16:11:12

Our single story extension plus some conversion work to old kitchen (digging up old tiled floor, damp proofing & turning into downstairs bathroom) took 7 weeks start to finish. Builders worked from 8am to about 4-5pm (winter so didn't do much external stuff when sun was going down). The boss was a proper old school slave driver though and often they would only have half an hour for lunch.

There were about 3 days when no work at all took place as they were waiting for the windows to be delivered. The plasterer came for about 3 days and turned up at 7am (with our consent).

Finney2 Sun 24-Aug-14 16:22:22

First floor extension should be fine, unless they need to reinforce foundations under the existing building.

Basement could potentially be a nightmare. Think breakers, mini-diggers etc. It depends on how much they have to excavate. It can be pretty noisy.

The good thing is that once e she'll is up it will be less invasive noise (hammering, light drilling etc) so shouldn't be too bad.

I'd ask them not to start using breakers until 9am if they could, but they don't have to comply.

You do get used to the noise as long as it's not too loud. Things like cement mixers just blend into the background after a week or two.

Flipflops7 Sun 24-Aug-14 19:07:47

Glad you are renting, that should mitigate the emotional side a lot.

partyskirt Sun 24-Aug-14 20:00:50

It is quite a small area they need to excavate -- I reckon maybe 4 x 5 meters. (x 6 foot depth)

coffeeinbed Sun 24-Aug-14 20:06:34

Basement conversions are incredibly anti-social.
Noise, vibrations, mud and dust everywhere.
And for what?

A damp little dark boxy room.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett Sun 24-Aug-14 20:42:01

Totally agree coffee NDN spent 6 months converting one really lovely flat into one small flat plus two hideous bedroom in the basement flats, which he's as yet been unable to sell. Greedy, inconsiderate fecker got his...

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett Sun 24-Aug-14 20:46:44

Omg, actually just googled my old street and both basement conversions are up for sale still. We left the street 3 years ago shock. Oh karma, you are a bitch aren't you?

Beastofburden Sun 24-Aug-14 20:49:10

I would ask for a rent rebate. The ll should have told you.

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