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monkeymamma Mon 12-May-14 22:43:55

Ds (2) will not under any circumstances take any medicines, including Calpol. He currently has a chest infection and is clearly suffering. The gp had prescribed an inhaler (fat chance) and 6 days of antibiotics.
Surprise does not work as he is constantly on the watch for attempts to get it down him. Reason does not work, nor does reminding him that the doctor told him he must take it. Chocolate/bribery doesn't work - he either has no appetite anyway, or just wants the chocolate but no medicine and has a massive screaming hysterical fit if we won't give it to him. Until now we have got by by mixing it in with his favourite drinks but that doesn't work now, he's wised up to it and all it does is make him suspicious of all drinks (therefore risking dehydration). He won't hold the syringe or spoon. If he gets a whiff of me mixing it in with anything he just refuses all food.
We are in despair. Please tell me you have a magic trick that will work...

coffeeinbed Mon 12-May-14 22:45:47

Suppositories.

Fairenuff Mon 12-May-14 22:46:06

What are your usual sanctions when he doesn't do as he is told?

Sirzy Mon 12-May-14 22:46:33

For the inhaler if needs be pin him down and do it no matter what - it's not nice but needs must.

Better, "softer" approaches include letting him play eight eh spacer, decorating the spacer together, giving you some inhaler (pretend obviously)

coffeeinbed Mon 12-May-14 22:47:07

That's fir calpol though.

Not sure about the ABs.

dancemom Mon 12-May-14 22:47:21

Use the inhalor while he is asleep

PetiteRaleuse Mon 12-May-14 22:49:01

You can get paracetamol suppositories but probably not for the other drugs and not for the inhaler. At least try with the paracetamol (I know people are squeamish about that but it is far more effective and one less thing to force into the mouth. Can be done during nappy change and he won't notice)

Littlefish Mon 12-May-14 22:49:53

Dd used to refuse all medicine when she was in pain. We used suppositories occasionally when she was really unwell to get pain killers in to her. Once they had taken effect, she was much more willing to take antibiotics.

gratefulforwhatihavegot Mon 12-May-14 22:50:06

sit him down and pour the calpol and then hold it up and say firmly "this is mummy's and NOT yours" and then pretend to eat it. that makes most children grab whatever you have and try and cram it all in

indigo18 Mon 12-May-14 22:51:19

Does he always get his own way?
Not much help for now, I know, But maybe for the future.

PetiteRaleuse Mon 12-May-14 22:52:05

Agree with fish once pain is no longer a distraction the rest should be easier.

2 people - one to pin him down and the other to squirt the medicine to the side and back of his mouth while he is howling.
Then big massive cuddles, lots of fuss what a big boy he has been and a chocolate button or 5.

IMO and IME it is kinder to swoop in fast and firm and then console than to get everybody distress by trying to reason with a 2 year old.

Huge sympathies - we've given DS2 foul-tasting medicine once a day for 3 years when he was little. He is now 10, appears quite normal, but I am still shaking at the memory.

And yes, Paracetamol suppositories are fab - I have no idea why they are not more popular, I really don't.

IwishIwasmoreorganised Mon 12-May-14 22:53:52

Paracetamol suppositories.

Wrap him in a towel, kneel over him and just get on with the inhaler - they're more effective with deep breaths anyway! (Technique was taught to me by nurses when ds2 had bronchiolitis and was admitted).

Antibiotics are more tricky. Syringe into the back of the cheek with his mouth as shut as you can manage.

Some things just have to be done. Not nice, but for his own good.

Hope he's better soon.

strawberryangel Mon 12-May-14 22:54:27

Exactly what pacific said...just pin him down and force it in. Needs must.

monkeymamma Mon 12-May-14 22:54:58

Thanks, guys.
I've told the gp he won't take meds but she didn't offer me any suppositories for him. To be honest if I can't get it in his mouth I don't know how we'd get them in his bum!
He does like the spacer and we let him play with it tonight so possibly he will let us give him a couple of puffs tomorrow.
It's not taking the antibiotics that worries me the most (and not being able to bring his temp down if it gets really high).
Usual sanction is basically going in his cot if he doesn't do as he's told. It usually works just as a threat (rarely need to follow through) and he is in general very well behaved. But he has a will of iron. In this case he just gets hysterical the minute we mention medicines (or even just think about it - he's very perceptive) and I can't leave him screaming in his cot when he's ill.

Re inhaler: yy to letting him play with it and the spacer. Put stickers on together, get teddy and dad and any random visitor to pretend-use the inhaler. Keep going - DS2 started asking for his inhaler within having tried it a couple of times.

Asleep is also good (or actually better): there is some evidence that giving an inhaler to a screaming child does not work as well as when they are calm. No shit, Sherlock! But - I still figured that big indrawn breath at the end of a wail must get some of the medicine down.

Good grief, I love the older, more sensible child!
V best of luck, really thanks

Chocolate/bribery doesn't work - he either has no appetite anyway, or just wants the chocolate but no medicine and has a massive screaming hysterical fit if we won't give it to him. Just finished DD on a week long course of antibiotics. I used to put the chocolate button on the table and she would only get it if she opened wide. Broken record, "you can have the button, open wide, you can have the button, open wide"

Apparently squirting medicine into their cheek makes them less able to spit it out. Quite honestly I'd do the pin down and squirt approach. With the inhaler, it'll be no use giving him that by force, as they won't breathe the meds in sufficiently if they're crying (dd2 is under a paediatrician for occasional wheezing, and he said so often inhalers are given wrong, and there's absolutely no benefit in that instance). Really hope he feels better soon anyway, one way or another!

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Mon 12-May-14 22:57:33

Yep pin-down I'm afraid. Focus on how important it is for him to have them, then lots of comfort afterwards.

Lweji Mon 12-May-14 22:58:25

It broke my heart, but I had to force DS to do his inhaler.
The best is to seat him on your lap, lay him on his back holding his arms and his head back and just apply the inhaler.
I used to sing in a soothing voice while he was crying, or talking calmly to him.
It's best than to have to go to hospital.

The same goes for liquid medicine.

Sirzy Mon 12-May-14 22:58:39

Nuzzle - when they are screaming they take deep breaths so will get plenty as long as the mask is firmly on their face.

Gumps Mon 12-May-14 22:59:23

Been there and it's a nightmare. What absolute rubbish people saying it's a behavioural issue. I can convince my older 2 dcs to take meds but my dd2 will kick scream hit and normally she is an angel.
I agree with the two person pin and squirt method. Hideous but has to be done. However the revolting bright pink Peppa pig mini yogurts from asda also worked a treat. Obviously the sugar and colouring content is so high it can mask the taste of antibiotic! She had also never had them before so didn't have a taste reference point.
Good luck.

Cross posts with most people above, sorry! Slow typing!

Fairenuff Mon 12-May-14 23:00:19

I think you could put him in his cot as long as you stand over him to monitor him. Once he learns that refusing medicine means going in the cot, he will be much more likely to take it.

Also you can tell him he can come out to have medicine first and then play. If he doesn't agree, he stays there.

I know you say he is stubborn but if you stick to it he will give in eventually. It's worth one or two big battles to get the message into him that medicine is not optional.

Footle Mon 12-May-14 23:00:48

You can certainly get antibiotic suppositories in France - ask a pharmacist about getting them in UK if gp is no help.

kinsorange Mon 12-May-14 23:01:57

Go back and see a different GP in the morning if you dont have any luck.

Nocomet Mon 12-May-14 23:02:23

Will he eat the tiny peti flo (sp) fromage frais?

I very much doubt you'd taste strawberry calpol in a strawberry one of those. (Nasty antibiotics you might, still, but DDs friend who has to take drugs every day of her life used this trick in reception)

I agree if you can get a full dose of calpol in him and wait about an hour so it's at maximum effectiveness he may be massively more cooperative.

Sirzy, I agree that makes sense, but the paediatrician we see has published loads of papers on respiratory problems in children, and he said when they cry, it's a long out breath and a short in breath, so not great. Dd2 was a baby at the time though, so maybe it's different in older children. As others have said, they must breathe in something. Fortunately she's got so used to having one now, she rarely fights it, but I can appreciate most children not wanting a spacer on their face!

Jollyphonics Mon 12-May-14 23:03:22

If he's got a temp then don't waste time with calpol, go for nurofen instead, much better at bringing temps down. I'd just hold him down and squirt it into cheek, then reward him with chocolate.

LuisSuarezTeeth Mon 12-May-14 23:04:00

To be honest, he's obviously going to know what you're trying to do, however you do it. Break the cycle by getting someone else involved, then step back in.

Sirzy Mon 12-May-14 23:05:50

It may not be ideal but it works better than not giving it. The respiratory nurses have given inhaler to DS with me that way many times when he was little - we just counted even slower than normal to make sure he got it all. Thankfully now he is older he happily takes it with no fuss. (Good job considering the amount he has!)

CrystalSkulls Mon 12-May-14 23:06:14

pin and squirt is the only way... ds is food phobic and has been since very small, thankfully he's a fairly healthy boy, but the couple of times he has had to have medicine before i could use bribery/explaining about making him feel better, i had to pin him and syringe into his cheek and then offer a swift biscuit and lots of cuddles.

RainbowSpiral Mon 12-May-14 23:06:17

Inhaler, use the spacer with mask while he is sleeping.

Medicines - mix (whilst he is not looking) with a small drink of a forbidden and irresistible sweet drink, e.g. Ribena. Give this treat drink before water so he is thirsty.

Nanny0gg Mon 12-May-14 23:06:31

Either mix it in 'magic' yoghurt (only thing that worked with my very food sensitive DGC) or pin down and squirt to the back of the throat with the syringe (that worked with the DGC that could tolerate the taste).

I do think he's too young to reason with, so it's either disguise it or force it I'm afraid.

Chocolate afterwards is still okay though!

Bardette Mon 12-May-14 23:08:14

Get a blanket or large towel, wrap it tight around him, including arms, and lay him on the sofa. Squidge his little cheeks together, put syringe of calpol in his mouth and squirt into his cheek. Hold his cheeks for a couple of seconds till he swallows then unwrap him, give him a big hug and a chocolate button and send him off to play.
When ds1 needed antibiotics me and dh got this down to a 5 second operation, including eye drops!

PetiteRaleuse Mon 12-May-14 23:08:54

Depends on the antibiotic footle

fair i think associating his bed with punishment and nasty medecine at this age would be counterproductive.

Spurtle Mon 12-May-14 23:09:55

Boots sell paracetamol suppositories. They're £20 for ten doses though!

PetiteRaleuse Mon 12-May-14 23:10:47

How much?? They are 2€50 ish here for 10.

He might be too old for this but for small children blowing on their face can make them swallow. This needs to be used in conjunction with the 'pin and squirt' technique above! Best of luck. Been there, it's awful.

WilsonFrickett Mon 12-May-14 23:12:07

You can get suppositories on the nhs but they're far more expensive than, say, calpol so gps are reluctant to prescribe them. I have an italian friend who basically sweeps in and demands them for her DCs. They are common in Europe and so much easier to get tinies to take. So stand firm - that said, I don't think you get ABs in suppository form.

Lovelydiscusfish Mon 12-May-14 23:12:21

Have you tried emotional blackmail? "It makes mummy SAD when you won't do this" etc. I know it's not terribly ethical, but I use this to get dd (just 2), to take essential medicine, hold my hand near roads etc. makes me sound a bit of a shit, doesn't it?

monkeymamma Mon 12-May-14 23:21:17

Oh god, thanks for all the replies, some very useful stuff here. And the empathising also helps! :-) re pinning down, he is just so so strong (also am 10wks up the duff so trying to avoid full on wrestling...). And so hysterical.
Gumps may have given me an idea as he does have a weakness for those vile jelly-and-yoghurt pots which are just the same colour as his antibiotics. Will give that a go. And the side of the cheek technique. And blowing on his face!
Lovelydiscus I'm by no means above emotional blackmail (whatever works!!) I'll try that one too.

pianodoodle Mon 12-May-14 23:31:29

Mine always wants to do whatever the latest cute book character is doing.

Any book/tv programme where someone he likes has to go to the doctor might help smile

BobPatandIgglePiggle Mon 12-May-14 23:34:03

Sanctions he's only 2!

Pin down / pretending it's ours here. Amazing how much strength toddlers have when they don't want to do something (still traumatised from toddler haircut from hell last week)

BobPatandIgglePiggle Mon 12-May-14 23:36:33

Sorry - meant 'sanctions' in a query way - I wouldn't give sanctions to a little 2 year old for not taking meds! Ludicrous!

defineme Mon 12-May-14 23:39:14

Re him being strong. Firstly you need to be confident-I'm guessing you weigh significantly more than him so it's impossible that you can't over power him. I had to sit on my dc to cut their toenails(gently). Or I found strapped in a car seat was better. Removing splinters involved towels being wrapped very tightly and then just taking calmly over the screaming!

Any chance he'll listen to reason? I know it definitely won't work for all but, with a similar issue here around the 18 month stage we gave up on the pinning method and basically explained that the medicine was required for them to feel better so were they going to be all grown up and take it?

Took nearly an hour the first time (and several spilled doses) but worked and took about five minutes persuasion after that, (always followed by lots of praise and small treat). The other thing we did was to put the dose in one of those small measuring cups and let small child self-administer as they were being 'grown-up'.

With the spacer - we had success with getting them to play the trumpet.

WillGardnersNose Mon 12-May-14 23:46:29

Spoonfull of Golden Syrup

parentalunit Mon 12-May-14 23:51:26

For the space inhaler, we had a similar problem. We started using it as a toy, by putting it up to my face and making funny noises into it. The child caught on, and became less resistant although he still doesn't love it

MaidOfStars Mon 12-May-14 23:56:13

I'm gonna go with: pin him down. You're the grown up.

DoJo Mon 12-May-14 23:58:20

My GP recommended a complete blank face for the pin and squirt technique and it was actually much easier. As she said - the whole time I was trying to comfort him and saying 'I know you don't like it' etc was just confusing him, so to just be really matter of fact and don't say anything until afterwards.

We had to give my son a few sets of meds of varying vileness, but he got used to taking them all without fuss after a couple of days of just using a really no nonsense approach to the whole process.

With inhalers it was the same. We held it on his face while he cried, but gave him lots of praise afterwards even if he had been struggling and trying to push it away. We did big, exaggerated breaths with him and tried to distract him even if he wasn't paying attention. Then, after a few days, he just got over it all at once and now he loves doing it. If he's having an off day and argues with any of the above, we just say 'do you want to do it now, or after teeth/a drink/nappy change', so he has a choice, and then he thinks he's calling the shots and is happy to take it (usually!).

I know it feels awful when you are pinning them down, and in some ways it's also a bit heartbreaking when they get to the point where they open their mouths when they see you wielding a syringe, but it's all for the greater good and it's much better than the alternatives.

IAmTheGodOfTitsAndWine Tue 13-May-14 00:05:22

DoJo makes a really good point - we learned to do the blank face ourselves (DS is on the spectrum) as pinning him down at the same time as saying 'It's ok, it's ok' really confused and distressed him, because to him it was NOT ok and it made it much worse.

Now, if we need to pin him for anything, usually cutting his nails, we do it as quickly and calmly as possible and don't interact with him while we're doing it. Lots of cuddles after, though.

MooseyMouse Tue 13-May-14 05:00:58

You have my complete sympathy. We used suppositories for paracetamol (which are WAY cheaper in France so ask anyone going to pick some up for you).

We occasionally had success by mixing meds with Coke and getting them to sip it through a straw.

One bit of decent advice was, if you've got to pin him down, squirt the syringe of meds towards the inside of their cheek rather that towards the back of their mouth (they're less likely to feel like they're choking).

It's really difficult but, in our case, they grew out of it aged around five and will now take meds. Ignore anyone who make comments about how you just have to "make them take it" - they have no idea!!!

sashh Tue 13-May-14 06:08:50

Have you got a spacer for the inhaler? Completely pointless getting a small child to take an inhaler without. Adults struggle. Hell I sometimes get it wrong and I used to teach people how to take them as part of my job

If you have could you make some sort of game? Hold your breath, breathe in the inhaler, hold your breath again get a smartie or two.

YY to the suppositories if you can get them, if not then the GP can give them as an injection but you probably want to avoid that.

Does ds have a favorite uncle/aunt/older child/adult he adores other than you and dh? This person might be able to get meds down him as a special favour or as a 'look I have to take a nasty med can you do the same as me?'

Lweji Tue 13-May-14 07:51:58

As far as I know, inhalers for young children are automatically prescribed with inhalers.

Lweji Tue 13-May-14 07:52:13

Sorry, with spacers.

HortenMarket Tue 13-May-14 08:04:27

There is an antibiotic called azithromycin which only needs to be given once a day for three days. GPs don't normally want to prescribe it because it is more expensive than others. Ear Nose and Throat specialists do use it a lot. You still have to give it orally but at least its once a day as opposed 3 to 4!

We had this prescribed when we had a similar situation as yours. If you keep failing with the current antibiotics you could go and ask for this one. Really depends on how sympathetic your GP is.

Fairenuff Tue 13-May-14 08:13:26

fair i think associating his bed with punishment and nasty medecine at this age would be counterproductive

I agree. That's why I asked OP what was her usual sanction (or response if some posters prefer that word) to her ds not doing as he was told. OP said she put him in his cot.

MistyMeena Tue 13-May-14 08:38:50

Pin down and syringe in cheek, job done. I regularly did this with my son when on antibiotics.

lougle Tue 13-May-14 08:43:50

Antibiotic liquids are vile! It really is as simple as pin and squirt.

DoJo Tue 13-May-14 08:43:52

It's really difficult but, in our case, they grew out of it aged around five and will now take meds. Ignore anyone who make comments about how you just have to "make them take it" - they have no idea!!!

But sometimes you do just have to make them, unless you are prepared to risk them being ill for longer, getting worse or needing further treatment. IMO it is easier to instil the idea of medicine being non-negotiable when you are still easily able to overpower them, so toddler age is ideal. Once they realise that it is happening whether they co-operate or not, it should be easier, but you can't not give prescribed meds because a 2 year old might be unhappy about it.

ImNotAFlower Tue 13-May-14 08:55:41

I have been known to put medicine on ice cream as a "sauce"- you may need a big tub for six days worth though wink. Hope he is feeling better soon.

Gremlingirl Tue 13-May-14 09:08:41

The pinning down is easier if you lay them down on their back with their head in your lap, between your legs and use one of your legs to hold their arms and upper body down, meaning you have full use of both your arms for the squirting. Mine are often so amused by the upside down ness of your face, especially if you pull funny faces at them, that they laugh and I can squirt the meds in then.

DragonMamma Tue 13-May-14 09:15:52

We are another pin down and squirt, if all else fails. I do what PP said and hold their head between my knees and use one free arm to stop them wriggling. Then lots of praise and a couple of sweets afterwards.

They are now 6 and 3 and take meds no problem, as long as they get a sweet afterwards to get rid of the taste

People saying 'does he always get his own way' obviously have no idea what it is like to have a child refuse medicine.

DS1 would never take medicine as he's severely autistic. Unless it was pink. He also wouldn't eat very much. Nor would he have x rays - as for pin him down and do it - the hospital tried that with x-rays and medicine and gave up.

DS3 is NT but has a phobia I guess about medicines. He will take tablets now he is older but will not take liquid medicines & never would. I have forced it down him only for it to come up with the rest of his stomach contents all over me 2 seconds later.

Sympathies OP. Both ds1 and ds3 are much better now they're older, although ds1 cannot swallow tablets (and can't be taught to) so we get everything in liquid form for him (or capsules which we mix in juice).

I just tended not to give them anything. Most medicines for minor illnesses aren't absolutely necessary. If a medicine was absolutely essential then I would talk to the doctor about the different forms it was available in and try the one I thought we had some chance with. Sometimes GP's are reluctant to prescribe a different form than usual because they're more expensive.

Pin and squirt worked a bit wth ds1 although he was very good at not swallowing, never with ds3, as soon as it hit his stomach - hello dinner on my lap....

SleepRefugee Tue 13-May-14 09:20:38

My DD was dreadful in this regard until she was about 2 1/2. No amount of bribery worked, she disliked yogurt, custard and chocolate (yes, really), and would rarely finish a drink given to her, so "hiding" liquid medicine was not an option.

We resorted to paracetamol suppositories when she was very little (had to purchase - expensive! - as GP wouldn't prescribe).

She had terrible teething trouble, so it was a bit of a nightmare!

What worked for her other than suppositories was orange-flavoured Ibuprofen mixed with a little bit of mango smoothie or similar and given to her as a "special treat" on a spoon, as it didn't alter the taste so much.

On a few occasions, we had to just pin her down and squirt meds into her cheeks, followed by lots of cuddles.

She takes meds without a fightnow at 3 1/2!

PinkSquash Tue 13-May-14 09:27:00

We had to pin and squirt antibiotics for DS2 when ge was a baby, horrible but necessary. DH hated doing it but I was the evil practical one and u had to get on with it. He refused all medicine until recently at almost 2.5yrs and he takes it well.

Antibiotics are vile and I had it made worse as he had penicillin that I'm allergic to. Made it fun when he spat it out.

BitOutOfPractice Tue 13-May-14 09:27:42

Hello op. No more advice to give but just wanted to say I hope your ds is better soon

MrsWedgeAntilles Tue 13-May-14 09:35:48

We've been here. Its horrible but you just have to make him. DS has been using nebs and inhalers on and off since he was 18 months old and we've had one situation where it was life and death that he took the neb.
I hated forcing him to take them but it helped that I knew first hand what could happen if he didn't. Swaddling him in a big bath towel and holding him like a rugby ball really helped as well.

I second letting him play with the spacer and the syringe - we went through a phase where the spacer was a light saber and my little padawan would only take liquid via the oral syringe smile

Good luck, this too shall pass.

Bardette Tue 13-May-14 09:45:28

Just a quick point on the pin and squirt method, make sure his head is tipped forward, chin on chest, not tilted back, to reduce chance of choking.

Damnautocorrect Tue 13-May-14 09:48:01

Mine was the same, I tried pin and squirt he'd throw it up. Honestly there was no way at all, gp said force him which then led to him throwing it up and refusal of even calpol. I hid it in strong drinks (not ideal with anti b's I know). But I figured something was better than nothing. I did have to get the orange one (penicillin??) swapped for amoxicillin though after much huffing from the gp about forcing him.
But thankfully it passed at 4!

monkeymamma Tue 13-May-14 19:47:31

Thanks again for all the suggestions and support! Ds is so much better today (the antibiotics work so amazingly fast!) and we've got almost all of today's doses down him. I figure when it's a liquid suspension there must be some leeway in dosage/allowance for spilling etc. I managed to surprise him this morning while he was watching peppa pig. Dh managed miraculously to smuggle his 2nd dose in via undiluted apple juice at lunchtime. We've just tried the same technique with his 3rd dose for today and only managed half :-( hopefully we can get all 3 doses down him tomorrow. I'll be on my own tomorrow so pinning him down won't be an option. He's very big (99th c at birth) and although I am heavier than him I don't think I'm stronger! And he's really really fast and slippery (think bathing a cat), I've tried to imagine some of the pinning down techniques here but just don't think it would work. My legs wouldn't be strong enough to hold him down!

horten last time he was sick we were prescribed azithrymicin and it was AMaZING (ds and I are both penicillin allergic and react to erithymicyin so gp has to find alternatives). However gp (different one) last night wouldn't prescribe it in spite of me begging her. She said not suitable as it's antiviral but I bet is cos it's expensive and our antibiotic allergies are a pita.

dojo and IAm I'm practicing my blank face for tomorrow :-)

Thanks again so much for the help and fingers crossed we get through the next fourteen doses...

Glad to hear he's getting better and you've found a way to get his medicine in to him.

Just for the record, no antibiotic is antiviral. Azithromycin, like Erythromycin and Clarithromycin, works for most bog-standard bacteria and some atypical ones which can cause nasty pneumonias etc. Much as the twice daily dosing and short 3 days course are very convenient, it should really be reserved for serious/life-threatening infections.

listsandbudgets Tue 13-May-14 21:43:31

My friend's dd was like this. She used to get round it by mixing the calpol with a fruit yogurt. Not sure if that helps you but maybe worth a try?

listsandbudgets Tue 13-May-14 21:47:21

Oh sorry just seen your last post. Glad you got them into him.

My ds is very strong too. I really worry about hurting him sometimes as he struggles so strongly to stop me doing things that he does not want but need doing - eg changing his nappy, fastening safety straps on pram and car seat. You have my sympathy

sharonthewaspandthewineywall Tue 13-May-14 21:54:50

Poor lad! What child (or adult?) doesn't like calpol!!!!shock

BelleOfTheBoys Tue 13-May-14 21:58:42

Ds1 was a meds refuser. I had to get very creative.

Antibiotics were magic glow in the dark medicine, full of magic lights. The inhaler was filled up with teeny tiny soldiers with swords to fight away the germs in his chest. Obvs, they needed the glow in the dark medicine to light the way. He had to swallow the medicine first so it wasn't dark, then the soldiers could fly in and fight the germs away.

Ds1 is OBSESSED with swords and this worked a treat. I had to do lots of drawing on the chalkboard of his chest, and the scary-looking germs. Then we squirted the inhaler at them shouting 'kapow' etc., then DS1 rubbed them out with a chalk sword. When he takes the medicine now we all yell 'kapow' and pretend to have swords.

He is now so happy to take medicine, vitamins etc that I have to hide them all very very carefully and he will occasionally claim to be poorly, and when refused medicine can be heard muttering 'kapow' to himself ever so slightly sadly.

I've created a monster.

Key to all of this was I didn't tell him directly about any of the germs or soldiers. I just made sure to explain it all very carefully to Daddy when DS was in earshot

Hopefully I haven't scarred him for life. We did a similar thing to get him to clean his teeth - the toothbrush is the Sword of Spikes and we Go Hunting For Teefy Monsters twice a day. grin

BelleOfTheBoys Tue 13-May-14 22:00:46

Also: a friend who uses inhalers daily said she puts the spacer mask over their faces while they are sucking on a dummy? They are much calmer and they tend to be taking longer breaths in? If you use them, could this help - I think I've seen medicine dummies too?

Cyclebump Tue 13-May-14 22:02:59

DS had croup at 2, we pinned him down to use the inhaler. It was the only way. Waited for the end of the scream and used the pump as he gasped.

I felt like a horrible mother and there were cuddles and tears on both sides but the alternative was him going to hospital if it had it worse.

Hedgehog80 Tue 13-May-14 22:10:03

If he needs medicine you will have to get it into him. Even if it means wrapping in a towel to keep him still whilst somebody else prises his mouth open and syringes it in. We had to do this when ds1 was little being careful he didn't choke ( he did a little the first couple of times). Its not nice but its just for a few days.

MrsDiesel Tue 13-May-14 22:24:29

Glad you've had some success. We use the pin and squirt method too. I usually sit ds on my lap with one arm around me and hold the other arm with one hanx. Use the other hand to squirt the pre loaded syringe in.

I have always tipped them back a bit then to make them swallow but reading this thread seems that is a choke hazard?! I won't do it that way again!

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