to sadly accept that long tunics over jeans are no longer a cool look

(237 Posts)
Summerbreezing Sun 11-May-14 13:08:35

So handy, so comfortable, so versatile, so good at hiding a multitude of sins........ sad

Catnuzzle Sun 11-May-14 13:09:35

Since when, I'm in trouble then....

ThatBloodyWoman Sun 11-May-14 13:10:24

They are if you've got a bum like mine.

MammaTJ Sun 11-May-14 13:10:54

They are the best look when you have a bum like mine.

Bunbaker Sun 11-May-14 13:11:56

Looking cool is dressing for your shape, not being a fashion victim.

Chocotrekkie Sun 11-May-14 13:12:36

I think it is the best look I have.. Unless you count long tunic over thick leggings as a separate thing ?

What are we supposed to be wearing - flowery dresses that I can't get my boobs in with tights thrush and heels no way

Or jeans with a short top which ride up and my manky tummy falls out of

KaFayOLay Sun 11-May-14 13:13:01

Were they ever?

Maybe it's a regional thing, not seen any people wearing that combo where I live.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted Sun 11-May-14 13:13:19

I am the owner of that multitude of sins, have a number of natty tunic-type tops and shall be wearing them again this summer. I'm old enough to not care about whether it's a cool look or not, thank God

rocketjam Sun 11-May-14 13:15:06

Not in my world they are not out of fashion! But I also really love the loose blouses they are everywhere, Next has a really good selection! My problem is my middle and loose blouses really work.

EyelinerQueen Sun 11-May-14 13:15:39

Well I don't think anyone could claim it was ever a "cool" look could they?

It's comfort over style. A lot of people prioritise comfort.

Summerbreezing Sun 11-May-14 13:18:33

Long floaty tunic over skinny jeans finished with clunky flip flops. Seriously cool in an elegant understated way.

Sleepyhoglet Sun 11-May-14 13:23:54

That's white stuff screwed then!

catgirl1976 Sun 11-May-14 13:24:10

Cool no longer matters to me

Covering arse, muffin top and tops of thighs is now top priority when dressing.


I should probably get my flabby arse over to the low carb boot camp threads.

Joules68 Sun 11-May-14 13:24:44

Skinny jeans, yes, but it's the boot cut ones which look odd. Or flared ones

Pipbin Sun 11-May-14 13:27:05

I don't give a rats if it's not 'cool' any more. I shall wear what I like, not what other people like.
Anyway, if it isn't 'cool' then why are places like White Stuff and Seasalt still selling it?

ICanSeeTheSun Sun 11-May-14 13:30:09

At the moment I am sat freezing in a dress and heels, wishing I had a tunic top and leggings with ankle boots.

usuallysuspect Sun 11-May-14 13:30:26

I bought a great Sea Salt tunic thing in the Chazza shop for £3.

I'm going to wear it over Skinny jeans whether it's cool or not.

Lottapianos Sun 11-May-14 13:32:53

Well balls to that. Who cares what's cool? Wear what you like and what you feel good in. I'm wearing a tunic and leggings today - haven't been bothered by the fashion police so far!

They've never been cool here, just always a 'mumsy' look.

Beavie Sun 11-May-14 13:35:09

Sat here wearing a white stuff tunic and leggings.

Maybe it's not cool but my bovvered box is empty I'm afraid.

But sod what's cool. Wear what you want. I know I do!

Why is White Stuff seen as a cool brand confused

FloozeyLoozey Sun 11-May-14 13:36:45

That look has never been cool or in fashion, but it depends whether you give a shit about that or not! At my size (18) everything looks hideous, so I just dress for comfort.

usuallysuspect Sun 11-May-14 13:38:19

I'm nearly 55, I've long since not given a toss about looking cool.

aquashiv Sun 11-May-14 13:38:44

Hell will freeze over before a crop top over camel toe appears on my persons.

Bunbaker Sun 11-May-14 13:43:08

What kind of person really cares about looking "cool" apart from teenagers?

I am 55 and want to look stylish, not "cool".

Joules68 Sun 11-May-14 13:45:31

I'm off to look at white stuff

Caitlin17 Sun 11-May-14 13:47:31

Well who says? It's not a look I'd ever wear as I think jeans are boring and generally do not flatter anyone over 30 and larger than a size 10 but if you like it, it's fine and go for it. It's no-one's business (including mine) but yours.

You'd probably hate my preferred choice of tea-dresses, opaque tights, ballet flats and Brora cardies which is either wildly cool in a Bo-ho chic/Notting Hill/Primsose Hill way or wildly uncool and derided for exactly the same reasons.

MrsDeVere Sun 11-May-14 13:47:33

I am VERY cool.
I love tunics.

reallywittyname Sun 11-May-14 13:47:47

fuck cool

I wear tunic tops and bootcut jeans and scarves and I'm not cool and I don't really care that I'm not cool.

Infinity8 Sun 11-May-14 13:48:25

A lot of what is considered fashionable is hideously ugly, even on the tall, slim, beautiful model. So I can imagine what it will look like on someone like me ( size 16, short arse).

I like skinnies and tunics with boots or ballet flats.

MrsDeVere Sun 11-May-14 13:49:06

Caitlin I LOVE that look but once I hit 45 there was a fine line between looking charmingly boho and like Mrs Marple.

So I cut all my hair off and bleached it.

Solved that issue grin

reallywittyname Sun 11-May-14 13:49:14

Also, someone should tell Joe Browns if tunics and jeans aren't cool any more.

Is Joe Browns cool or not. I wear Joe Browns. Oh god, is it like Jaeger and I just haven't realised?

confused now.

MrsDeVere Sun 11-May-14 13:50:16

I like some Joe Browns stuff but some of their stuff is a bit bemusing.

I can't quite work it out.

HerrenaHarridan Sun 11-May-14 13:51:01

Truly cool people don't have to try and be cool.

You should just do what works for you regardless of trends and you will feel confident, stand out in a positive way and hell maybe some people might even think you're cool grin

MikeLitoris Sun 11-May-14 13:52:04

What exactly is a tunic top? I don't think I've ever seen anyone where what I would call a tunic with jeans. Leggings maybe but not jeans.

reallywittyname Sun 11-May-14 13:52:53

They have nice stuff then the odd OH MY GOD MY EYES piece.

Loving how you avoided the Miss Marpling by chopping and bleaching, mrsdevere grin

Take it to Style & Beauty, where they give a shit.

I no longer want to have to stress about what is covering my otherwise naked body, to be able to leave the house and live my life.

So a long type top and skinnies, or leggings that I can move in and fairly flat footwear that I can stay on my feet all day in, is my priority.

I spend half my time in Brighton, and half the time in the very rural west of Ireland. I can get away with anything, despite being vaguely potato shaped smile

OnlyLovers Sun 11-May-14 13:57:09

I like long tops with leggings, not jeans. And I'm not a mum. Is that even worse?

Not that I care. grin

alemci Sun 11-May-14 13:57:34

I like the look and they cover your bum. I sometimes wear a tunic dress over narrow trousers to work. I'm not keen on leggings on myself especially in the work place.

I don't care if it isn't 'cool'.

Caitlin17 Sun 11-May-14 13:57:51

MrsDV you sound great. Really on the age thing one thing I really regret is the hideously frumpy, decades too old for me monstrosities I wore to work in my first proper job after for a couple of years after graduating in 1982.

Actually despite what I said about age restrictions on jeans as long as one isn't frightening horses and small children dressing too young for your age is preferable to dressing old.

MrsDeVere Sun 11-May-14 14:04:16

Ahh when you were dressing like Lady Di Caitlin I had a mohawk and was working in a painfully trendy hairdressers in Kensington.


MrsMaturin Sun 11-May-14 14:04:38

I think that

a) It is really depressing to see women describing themselves as looking hideous because they are above a size 12. Fat is NOT hideous. It's just fat. Who says it's hideous?


b) Describing a look as 'mumsy' and therefor BAD is really misogynistic language.

On that basis I will say that I am a size 22 and I wear lots of leggings and tunics in which I look bloody amazing! I am also a mum. Go me! grin

WorraLiberty Sun 11-May-14 14:06:33

Tunics don't look good over anything imo

TheBoysMamma Sun 11-May-14 14:06:45

What is now considered a cool look? Genuinely curious...

Sparklingbrook Sun 11-May-14 14:07:48

i would rather see a long top and jeans than a crop top with see through knicker-showing leggings with camel toe. Call me old fashioned.

Thenapoleonofcrime Sun 11-May-14 14:08:04

Caitlin I LOVE that look but once I hit 45 there was a fine line between looking charmingly boho and like Mrs Marple

I am snorting with laughter at this. It's so true. Many of the looks which are cool such as tweed skirts and boots look 'sexy librarian' when you are younger and just 'librarian' as you get older. Retro is particularly susceptible to this cruel twist.

Thenapoleonofcrime Sun 11-May-14 14:10:53

Who cares what is cool? I still wear a pashmina, oh yes, draped over my flabby bits with some lovely layered stuff. I think it looks fine. I often get complimented on my clothing. I'm not going to be mistaken for a 21 year old, but that's not my aim. My aim is to look like a well-dressed lady of middle-years who might have looked sexy 20 years ago

usuallysuspect Sun 11-May-14 14:11:53

I found an inch long eyebrow hair spouting this morning.

Looking uncool in long tops and jeans is the least of my worries.

BackforGood Sun 11-May-14 14:15:50

Once you get past about 16, does anybody seriously worry about "looking cool" ? Surely you dress to suit your shape, your budget, your lifestyle ?

Sparklingbrook Sun 11-May-14 14:17:45

Ds1 is 14 and has just started going out with his first girlfriend. I feel very uncool. blush

SaucyJack Sun 11-May-14 16:00:52

Joe Browns is not cool, sorry. The clothes are nice enough in themselves, but their whole "lifestyle brand" look is far too contrived to be truly cool IMO. Just look at the names of the outfits- "perfect sitting in a pub garden and pretending you don't have kids" dress "ideal top for first post-divorce date at a vegan restaurant" top yadda yadda yadda.

Which is a shame, because as a thirtysomething mum and former Goth I'm exactly in their target demographic.

knickernicker Sun 11-May-14 16:05:13

Pipbin - I think you answered your own question.

splendide Sun 11-May-14 16:06:56

I'm a fat pregnant short arse and wear nothing but long tops and dresses over maternity jeans in my own time. I'm unrepentant.

At work I wear dresses, tights and boots. Not sure what I'm going to do when it gets a bit warmer sad

Genuinely genuinely though, what should I be wearing? I look disgusting in any trousers where you can actually see the waist band.

MaryWestmacott Sun 11-May-14 16:17:55

Of course it's not a cool look! It was cool for about a month about 5 years ago, and then those of us with non flat tummies and arses noticed that it was a flattering look, so started wearing it, it instantly stopped being cool. White stuff have never been cool - except in a "cool for a 35 year old" sort of way.

But this is fine, it's still a flattering and comfy look, it's a more stylish than tracky bottoms and a baggy t-shirt.

You don't have to be cool. It's ok not to be, sometimes I want to dress up, other times I just want to be comfy and presentable.

smartypants1000 Sun 11-May-14 16:20:40

Are people seriously worried about looking cool? Don't think I've ever been cool. I don't own skinny jeans and never plan to. Wear the clothes you like!

Caitlin17 Sun 11-May-14 16:31:07

I'd never heard of Joe Brown's. The dresses are okish but a bit cheap looking and too short; sort of downmarket Brora or Orla Keily or even Cath Kidston.

Is it the same sort of concept as Jack Wills? I.e taking a look that came naturally to one group of people and putting it all in one place for people who like it but can't be bothered/aren't comfortable trawling around second-hand shops to get it? (Critique of Jack Wills courtesy of my son who passionately hates it for reason stated)

Psycobabble Sun 11-May-14 16:33:17

With skinny jeans of leggings is a good look I think certainly better than flashing half your bits off when you've not the figure for it ... Not referring to the OP just an observation!

SirChenjin Sun 11-May-14 16:35:09

Wear what you like and sod everyone else, is my mantra. Say it loud, say it proud.

Joules68 Sun 11-May-14 16:37:18

Oh my! that white stuff website is awful. And expensive. The tunics looked odd, didn't look much beyond them..

HillyHolbrook Sun 11-May-14 16:41:08

It's never been 'cool' where I am at least. It's definitely considered a mumsy look, but is bloody comfy and flattering for most. It doesn't suit me as I'm big chested, wide hipped and small waisted so I need to wear more fitted things to avoid looking like a box. I wear what suits me and so should everyonegrin Enjoy your tunics for as long as you like!

I work in the fashion industry and I don't wear what's 'trendy.' They haven't fired me yetwink I love fashion but I'm a fan of wearing classic, versatile pieces instead of falling all over what ever print or bizarre cut of skirt is in for this season. It means I look stylish all the time I hope and my wardrobe never goes out of date and never ends up looking frumpy and out of fashion.

SecretWitch Sun 11-May-14 16:43:48

I am 4'11 and not thin. I will wear what flatters me and give two hoots about fashion. I am clean, hair in good shape and put my slap on. I also work for the police department, ain't no one caring about my fashion sense.

EduardoBarcelona Sun 11-May-14 16:44:57

NO NO NO never were cool or flattering

magpiegin Sun 11-May-14 16:45:06

I agree, I have never thought of it as 'cool'. I would say it was what women aged 40+ would wear on the school run. Yes, I know that probably sounds sexist but is what springs to mind.

kippersmum Sun 11-May-14 17:29:25

I am wearing a short dress / long tunic with black leggings today, as I do most days. I have never been cool in my life & at nearly 40 with 2 kids I'm not going to start worrying about it now! smile

I couldn't give a shit what it considered cool or not. I wear what I like and suits me and don't give a toss what other people think.

IdealistAndProudOfIt Sun 11-May-14 17:36:05

Couldn't care less. I like them. I'm wearing them. End of, except when I can't buy what I want any more and have to spend hrs hunting for simplest thing... Grrrr...

I often think of fashion as a bunch of weirdos getting drunk and sniggering to each other round a table about 'hurr hurr hurr... How stupid can we make people look now ' (especially thinking of those stupid 'the skirt-trouser and even more the stupid name!).

LtEveDallas Sun 11-May-14 17:40:14

God I live in tunics/kaftan tops and jeans. In fact I have been bemoaning that my favourite ones are now starting to disintegrate they are that old and well worn (my very fave is the same age as DD - 9 shock)

I'm having a really hard time finding new ones - apparently the best places are Indian tailors selling salwar kameez (sp?). I'm seriously considering buying some and taking them up myself. The colours I've seen are amazing.

AbbeyBartlet Sun 11-May-14 17:42:14

I only bought my first tunic tops a few weeks ago - I wear them over trousers for work. I am not bothered about fashion tbh, I just wear what fits!

noddyholder Sun 11-May-14 17:44:35

I think it's unflattering

Bodicea Sun 11-May-14 17:47:10

I am confused about this look. Never seen any around myself but might be a look I am interested in hoiks down top over mum tum
Can anyone point me in direction of some examples.

Aspiringhuman Sun 11-May-14 17:48:18

I don't care about cool, comfort all the way.

usuallysuspect Sun 11-May-14 17:51:49

Trust me, if you have a muffin top like mine, they are flattering.

hamptoncourt Sun 11-May-14 17:52:13

I still haven't got over the fact we cannot wear tight white t shirts under strappy dresses.......*Time Warp*

RoganJosh Sun 11-May-14 17:54:29

Boadicea, this is the sort of style I would think of when someone says 'tunic'.
Not helping the frumpy worry with a Wallis link.

RoganJosh Sun 11-May-14 17:55:03

Bodicea, even.

JamJimJam Sun 11-May-14 17:56:50

It's a much derided look on MN, but I think it can look really nice if you're bit on the large side.

JamJimJam Sun 11-May-14 17:57:53

God, that Wallis one is gopping.

Rivercam Sun 11-May-14 17:58:02

I love that top!

PuppyMonkey Sun 11-May-14 18:11:23

If you really were cool you wouldn't give a shit.

YeGodsAndLittleFishes Sun 11-May-14 18:13:51

I don't give a shit.

Ergo I am cool.


FishCalledWonder Sun 11-May-14 18:32:45

I think people often say 'cool' but mean 'young'.

Would a 19 year old wear a tunic from White Stuff? No. Doesn't mean it can't look good though.

Describing a look as 'mumsy' and therefor BAD is really misogynistic language

No, it's just the outfit the majority of the school mums around here decide to wear. That's why it's seen as a 'mumsy' outfit. Just because it isn't in fashion doesn't make is misogynistic to say so.

goldencity1 Sun 11-May-14 18:41:18

Who gives a shit about being "cool"?
I wear what I like, and if that is a long top over jeans, so what?

Luckily I am no longer a teenager, so don't worry about what others may think!

Joules68 Sun 11-May-14 18:49:16

I think the tunics are supposed to be longline, so suit slimmer figures better. Nothing worse than seeing a distorted and bunched up top that's fitting badly, it disguises nothing. I think they look ok with leggings tho.

Kaftans are still 'in' aren't they? Think they are quite flattering for most women

usuallysuspect Sun 11-May-14 18:50:03

'In fashion' What does that even mean?

I'm not sure I'm not the best person to speak about fashion to be fair grin

colleysmill Sun 11-May-14 19:01:03

I've found the coolest people tend to wear what they want and feel comfy in. If it suits you and you like it just wear it. Life is too short to spend feeling like you've either raided your teenagers or mothers wardrobe. Find your look and wear it with confidence.

If it helps I still dress a bit like an extra in the Parklife video. I only own trousers that are either boyfriend style or massive flares. I even bought a new bandana this weekend Axl Rose stylee. I care not a jot smile

SirChenjin Sun 11-May-14 19:10:15

I think the fact that 'mumsy' is used (usually in patronising tones) to describe a look rather than what a certain group of women wear is what people often object to. I remember reading one woman (who frequents the Style board) saying that she would "rather be mutton than mumsy" - that, to me, sums up the kind of attitude to 'fashion' (ie the kind of look people slavishly follow regardless of whether or not it's a shit look) that some women on here have - ie, that 'mumsy' is the absolute worst look imaginable hmm.

Cool my arse, who cares. But I really hate the disparaging mumsy comments and would like to punch people who stoop to that. hmm

mellicauli Sun 11-May-14 19:40:07

Cool is just a marketing concept facilitated by young people's lack of self confidence, their obsession for being part of the "pack" and cruelly excluding others for arbitrary reasons.

If you are not young, you don't have to participate if you don't want. Your peer group will like you tunic or not unless your friends are dicks, of course.

Hulababy Sun 11-May-14 19:47:43

I'm 41y. I think my days as "cool" are gone tbh. Instead I wear what I want to and feel happy to do so.

I leave the cool and what's in fashion to my 12y instead.

Bunbaker Sun 11-May-14 19:49:44

Well said mellicauli

Are some adult people so shallow that they judge you for not being cool?

I know teenagers do it all the time, but I am talking about people who have left compulsory education here.

BCBG Sun 11-May-14 19:56:56

Can someone link to floaty tea dresses, then? I fancy trying a boho style and ditching the jeans but I can never find the sort of thing that others wear so well - if it has a pattern I usually look like I'm wearing a curtain! I'm 165cm and size 12 but its being 53 is the problem grin

BCBG Sun 11-May-14 19:57:06


Bodicea Sun 11-May-14 20:31:32

Rogan josh i used to consider myslef pretty "cool" but recently bought two wallis tops!! They are very flattering though!

Summerbreezing Sun 11-May-14 20:42:19

Oh God. I meant to start a light hearted thread about a flattering fashion that I want to cling on to forever and ever. Didn't realise the word 'cool' in the title would rub so many people up the wrong way. No I'm not Edina Monsoon, honestly smile

summersoft Sun 11-May-14 20:45:57

I will keep this look alive, don't have to worry about my fly's coming undone.

grocklebox Sun 11-May-14 20:51:10

Fashion is merely an instrument of control to make women feel ugly, unworthy, and to buy lots if shit they dont need in a vain attempt to feel as if they fit in with whatever bizarre look a couple of male designers and aging stick thin magazine editors have decided is this seasons thing.

Fuck that for a game of soldiers. Buy and wear whatever you like.

alemci Sun 11-May-14 20:54:48

or vpl or my tummy

NickiFury Sun 11-May-14 20:58:12

Only on MN is that not a cool look. I live in West London and all the older teen girls and early twenty something's wear them, usually with ankle boots and messy hair, they look beautiful.

pointythings Sun 11-May-14 21:04:06

So far no-one in RL has ever mistake me for someone who gives a shit about looking cool. Or fashionable. I still get compliments, though.

Caitlin17 Sun 11-May-14 21:09:21

Lovely tea dresses, I have one and it's really wearable and there is always Cath Kidston and Brora.

dementedma Sun 11-May-14 21:15:28

Bloody hell Caitlin the price of those dresses!

Bunbaker Sun 11-May-14 21:25:19

Those prices are eye wateringly high shock

Sparklingbrook Sun 11-May-14 21:27:13

Asda have some nice dresses. blush

usuallysuspect Sun 11-May-14 21:28:45

Those Brora dresses look like the dresses my grandma used to wear.

NickiFury Sun 11-May-14 21:32:24

Asda do some nice pretty stuff but it doesn't wash well, looks like a dish rag after one wear. I know it's cheap but it's pricy if you only get one wear out of it.

Uniqlo does some lovely tops and shorts for summer and the occasional lovely frock, not eyewateringly expensive and lasts!

BreastmilkDoesAFabLatte Sun 11-May-14 21:33:49

Phew, so it's not just me then still doing this. The tunic-over-jeans combo is the only way I've ever found to make myself look remotely proportioned...

pointythings Sun 11-May-14 22:15:57

I have tea dress, it's a M&S from about 1995 that I picked up in a charity shop many years ago. I love it and still wear it to work, it's the ultimate sweltering day in the office garment.

Unfortunately I have not found a tea dress that 1) fits me as well, 2) is of an equally nice fabric and quality and 3) is affordable.

So I make do with long cool linen skirts from Long Tall Sally with whatever comfy tops I have, and sod them.

Ewieindwie1 Sun 11-May-14 22:28:05

Am cuddly and any cropped top is verboten for me. Love my five year old Fat Face tunic and jeans with flat boots. Am comfy, happy and smiley. Fashion police may snigger (but I know they will age too..... Smirks)

Summerbreezing Sun 11-May-14 23:58:34

The price of those tea dresses shock.

Also surprised at the posters insisting that tunics over jeans was never a cool look. I remember a time when loads of edgy teens/early twenties and boho chic types were drifting around in dresses over tight jeans, trousers or leggings. Maybe it depends where you're from.

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 00:04:30

Laughing at the 'I don't care about cool' people vehemently insisting that tunics and dresses over tight trousers was never a cool look. <whisper> It was.

MrsMook Mon 12-May-14 00:13:23

It had better be cool still, my non-maternity/ nursing wardrobe left off there 4 years ago and I'm at the threshold of real clothes again. I discovered my liking for White Stuff at 6m pg when the size of a medium blue whale, and haven't had chance to indulge yet.

PowerPants Mon 12-May-14 01:02:51

I have never heard of Joe Browns......googled...

Is it just me or is this Per Una on steroids?

Caitlin17 Mon 12-May-14 01:10:32

PowerPants that's hideous.

EduardoBarcelona Mon 12-May-14 01:16:33

White stuff. Just dire.

PowerPants Mon 12-May-14 01:28:01

It's quite ....odd....isn't it Caitlin.

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 08:36:13

I don't think women care about cool but can still want to be stylish!

SirChenjin Mon 12-May-14 09:13:14

Roland Mouret is a name that always crops on the Style thread as one that the fashionistas drool over - what do we all think of these babies??!

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 10:34:12

In fairness, there's not caring about cool, and not wanting to be stuck in a time warp. Dresses over trousers haven't reached that point yet; but you do sometimes see people who obviously got comfortable with a certain look years and years ago and haven't updated it at all. It can look a bit strange. I know a woman who still wears jackets with huge shoulder pads and has big hair and hoop earrings. I'm sure she looked bang on trend about 25 years ago, but now it just looks really odd.

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 10:40:50

I hate the assumption that as you get older you shouldn't give a damn what you look like and somehow are superior if you don't. You can be intelligent and not shallow and still look good and care about it!

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 10:47:32

I agree Noddy. If people want to schlep around in comfy clothes and ignore fashion that's fair enough (do it myself sometimes when I can't be arsed). But what's a bit irritating on this thread is the people trying to disguise that as 'I'm too stylish to care if I look stylish.'

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 10:54:02

I often slob about at home but I don't think people who still love fashion etc are shallow or somehow deluding themselves re age etc. Someone up thread said 'I know they will age too' which has nothing to do with it ime.

Sparklingbrook Mon 12-May-14 10:56:43

They are all, without exception vile Sir. I have S&B hidden. Thank goodness. grin

grocklebox Mon 12-May-14 10:57:11

You can intelligent and not care either....and why assume that because people dont care about fashion tnat they dont care what they look like? Or if they dont care what they look like, why assume they are making any comment about what you choose to wear or not?

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 10:59:56

I know but I am referring to this thread not life in general. I do hate tunics over leggings though have never seen it look good except maybe on helena christensen I know I would look terrible in them! I don't agree with this 'covering sins' though think its negative

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 11:03:38

Yes, but you can also care about looking fairly up to date without being some shallow fashion victim. But some people on this thread don't seem to get that either and think they hold some kind of higher moral ground because they're not the least bit interested in what's fashionable. There's just been a few (and only a few) smuggish, self righteous posts on here that I found a bit grating.

Anyways, as OP said, it was just a light hearted thread (or was meant to be).
There is always that glorious moment when you and fashion seem to sync perfectly and it's always a bit sad when it's over.

Bunbaker Mon 12-May-14 11:04:41

"I don't agree with this 'covering sins' though think its negative"

I think there is a justifiable reason to dress for your shape though. For example I look awful in skinny jeans, but have a pair of very flattering slim straight Levi's. I can't wear tube/bodycon dresses as I am too pear shaped, but a skater style looks fine on me.

Sparklingbrook Mon 12-May-14 11:05:33

I find exposing all my 'sins' more negative TBH.

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 11:05:46

I think I like fashion because I like change but at 48 I am certainly not a slave to it! I try and make the best of myself because it makes me feel good not because I feel pressure.

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 11:07:10

I don't see anything negative about 'covering your sins'. It just means dressing in a way that highlights your better features and hides the ones you feel less comfortable about. Nothing wrong with that.

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 11:07:14

I don't consider my body in terms of sin thats probably it! I am aware people are probably looking at me thinking maybe I should but that is something I don't really think about. I have just never seen a tunic over trousers look good but maybe I am thinking of a different look

BaconSarniePlease Mon 12-May-14 11:10:38

I wear what suits me shape and my face and I think I look great. Sometimes that means dresses, sometimes jeans and (shock horror) tunic tops.

I think there should be more tunic tops in the world. There's far too much camel toe and belly shelf on show these days.

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 11:11:11

I think it was a very nice look when done properly. It could look quite floaty and bohemian and has been one of the nicer fashions of latter years. Obviously, when it became very popular, it often got put together quite badly or was worn by people it just didn't suit - but it could look lovely sometimes.

grocklebox Mon 12-May-14 11:11:46

Some bits of us need covering. Trust me, you wouldnt want to see my torso, it would put you off your lunch. And your dinner and your breakfast.

Daisy, youre reading in a lot of stuff that isnt really there. Are you a bit sensitive to percieved criticism in this area?

Burmahere Mon 12-May-14 11:14:35

I would like to be cool though or trendy or whatever. Why shouldn't I be just because I'm in my 40's? I love clothes and take care with the way I look.

These threads always irritate me because there will be 6 pages of people saying such and such isn't 'cool' but no clue as to what actually is!

Any idea what we should be wearing at the moment?

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 11:16:57

Could you explain Grockle. As far as I'm aware I've just said that a small number of posters have been a bit irritating with their condescending posts about 'it's not cool to want to be cool.

SirChenjin Mon 12-May-14 11:17:22

You should be wearing whatever the hell you like smile

Bunbaker Mon 12-May-14 11:17:28

"Any idea what we should be wearing at the moment?"

I don't like to be told what I should be wearing. I tend to look at what is around and buy what suits me and not what doesn't. I want to look stylish not "cool".

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 11:19:32

I think the trick is to have a broad idea of what's fashionable but know how to adapt it to suit your age and figure. I mean, if you've great legs but you're 50, thigh high skirts aren't a good idea - but above the knee would still look good.

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 11:22:12

I wear what suits me and don't think too much about age. If I really love something and I am not supermodel looking in it I still will try and find a version that does suit! I like simple basic shapes always have and still wear shorts in summer and bikinis etc as my legs are ok. I wouldn't wear short tops but I never did I think fashion is fun and I enjoy the whole thing though If I didn't i would think sod it too much hard work

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 11:24:56

I suppose we're all different, but I think age has to come into it a bit. There are things that teenagers and twenty somethings can get away with simply because they're young. But what can look a bit quirky and fun on them, could look silly on someone older.

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 11:26:20

I think its a gradual thing though you know yourself. I am not a rules person though.

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 11:32:05

That's very true. I have to admit I look at young people today and sigh with envy. I was a teen in the 80s when we all dressed like Princess Di or a pirate smile

Hulababy I completely and absolutely disagree and I find that attitude v depressing. I think that from 40+ you are better placed than ever to look cool because (ideally) you know what suits you and what you can afford. You are less likely to have your head turned by the latest unflattering craze (because you know what you look awful in). Your weight is also less likely to be fluctuating with pregnancies/bf-ing etc, so you can probably spend a bit more on a good jacket without wondering if it will still fit in 6 months.

Some of the most stylish celebs, for example, are 40+ (Victoria Beckham springs to my lazy, uncaffeinated mind).

"Cool" does not mean looking 19, it means looking stylish, relaxed and nominally aware of current fashion. Or Tilda Swinton (53). One or the other. smile

Nancy66 Mon 12-May-14 11:36:52

I think one of the things Trinny and whatsher name got right was saying that covering a big bum with a long top will only make it look even bigger.

SirChenjin Mon 12-May-14 11:50:25

Not necessarily Nancy - depends on the top and what you're wearing on the bottom. Skin tight jeans and a short fitted top on someone like me with a more generous shaped bottom (ahem) doesn't make my bum look smaller, whereas a pair of straighter legged trousers and a longer length top does.

Vintagejazz Mon 12-May-14 11:56:37

I too am very loth to let that fashion go. I have long slim legs but a flabby stomach so it suits me down to the ground. Shit, will have to find something else to help me avoid dieting flatter my figure.

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 12:43:02

I agree with notyou you can be old and cool and young and uncool. Being stylish stays with you i think I know lots of older women who because they look after themselves and have more money plus know what suits them look amazing

CheerfulYank Mon 12-May-14 12:49:00

I'm scared of leggings. I just need to take the plunge.

OnlyLovers Mon 12-May-14 12:51:31

Oh, Yak, there's nothing to be scared of. They're MARVELLOUS, honest. Try a pair and see the light <<come with us, come with us>> grin

Seriously, they're fab. You can't feel that you're wearing them they're that comfortable, they accommodate big arses/post-lunch or post-child stomachs, they come in lovely lovely colours (check out American Apparel) ...

Just make sure you wear them with a top that covers your arse, mmm-kay?

OnlyLovers Mon 12-May-14 12:51:42

Yank, not Yak!

CheerfulYank Mon 12-May-14 12:57:21

I really should try, I just always feel too...large! I don't know. Everyone I know swears by them. I really need to break out of my jeans/long sleeved tee or cardigan/converse rut.

kentishgirl Mon 12-May-14 12:58:57

I recently went out in a dress I wear as a tunic, over leggings, and I definitely got a couple of funny looks. I wore it last year without that reaction. I don't think there was anything else 'odd' about me.

ouryve Mon 12-May-14 13:02:17

Why do you give a shit?

jeanmiguelfangio Mon 12-May-14 13:02:18

What?? Oh crap thats my go to look. Sod this, ive been uncool forever, nothing is going to change now
also leggings are my friend, not the cheap see through jobbies but good thick covering ones.
kentish I am currently wearing that combo but have yet to leave the house lazy should I prepare for the worst?

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 13:05:42

If I wear leggings or stretchy things too much it makes me a bit complacent about my weight proper clothes that 'fit' let me know when I have been overdoing the wine and chips!

EduardoBarcelona Mon 12-May-14 13:07:04

so agree with noddy.
in the hey day of Jeggings I heard that advice from Nod, put on my topshop baxters and.. ( well I couldn't put on my baxters ) for I was a fat old biffa

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 13:17:41

I think proper jeans and trousers are way more flattering on lumps and bumps too I admit not as comfy but when i see my 19 yr old son's gfs in leggings with little top and trainers and everything where it should be I think I look better in structure!

Vintagejazz Mon 12-May-14 13:28:35

Well I know tunics and leggings aren't the height of fashion anymore but they're still a pretty normal everyday outfit that you see on the street. Why on earth would anyone get funny looks for wearing them. Are you sure your tunic wasn't caught up in your knickers or you hadn't accidentally gone out with your shower cap still on Kentish?

I'm currently wearing a Red Dwarf 'Smeg Head' tee and leggings. SO COOL MUCH FASHION

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 13:31:34


jeanmiguelfangio Mon 12-May-14 13:33:01

Slowly pulls shower cap off head- damn the fashion conscious

kentishgirl Mon 12-May-14 13:54:48

I happen to have a lovely bright pink with flowers on Gok Wan shower cap that looks like part of an Edwardian ladies bathing suit, and I don't think I left it on.

Oh thought I looked a funny too, in that slight mouth twitch, 'no you wear whatever you like, love' way.


He said it was because my leggings were too short, cropped ones just below the knee instead of full length. Does that make a difference?

I originally wanted to wear it over shorts but it was longer than the shorts and it just made me look really fat.

I don't like wearing dresses on their own. They are nearly all see-through in the wrong light, and I'm not a ladylike thing who can remember to sit elegantly with my legs together.

Rosa Mon 12-May-14 13:57:45

sitting here in jeans and fat face tunic ..Oh bugger never mind

NickiFury Mon 12-May-14 15:28:14

You got funny looks for wearing a tunic with leggings?

hmm Really?

Bunbaker Mon 12-May-14 16:00:19

"They are nearly all see-through in the wrong light,"

So you wear an underskirt or waist slip or whatever you call them these days.

NickiFury Mon 12-May-14 16:45:19

So what "should" we all be wearing this season then? Has that already been answered?

SirChenjin Mon 12-May-14 16:47:04

Yeah - I answered it upthread. 'Whatever the hell you like' is what you 'should' be wearing grin grin

usualnamechanger Mon 12-May-14 17:21:38

They were never cool for the short woman.

Pipbin Mon 12-May-14 17:49:46

I'm 5ft 3 and I wear leggings and I give not a shit.

Pipbin Mon 12-May-14 17:51:00

Anyway, everything looks shit when you are dumpy. Just wear actual clothes not a onesie and it's fine.

Daisymasie Mon 12-May-14 17:51:11

They're great for this inbetweeny time of year when it's too warm for tights but you're not feeling brave and tanned enough to bare your legs.

Bunbaker Mon 12-May-14 17:57:03

It hasn't been too warm for tights yet where I live.

Aeroflotgirl Mon 12-May-14 18:28:50

So what, don't be a sheep have your own style. If they look good on you, wear then. Much better than trying to squeeze into skinny jeans and muffin top bursting out (my experience)

SirChenjin Mon 12-May-14 19:12:51

Or the ubiquitous Kate Moss (ie skinny jeans, ankles boots, slouchy top) look....why this woman is held up as a 'style icon' is beyond me.

noddyholder Mon 12-May-14 19:32:36

I love her she is 40 and looks stylish

SirChenjin Mon 12-May-14 21:56:26

But she looks like every other 'style icon' - the messy hair, skinny jeans, high heeled ankle boots, slouchy top. It's a ubiquitous look, hardly a style icon.

Summerbreezing Mon 12-May-14 22:08:34

I think style is more about how you wear a look, than what you're wearing. Some people look fantastic in chain store clothes, others look very ordinary in expensive designer gear.

ThornOfCamorr Mon 12-May-14 22:16:58

After having three children if I can get out of the door looking vaguely normal then it's a good day.

ThornOfCamorr Mon 12-May-14 22:20:18

I am not at all sure about Kate Moss, nothing she wears would look right on me at 5' 2" I have a terrible problem with leg lengths and waists. A tunic a la hobbit style and leggings would suit me and be very comfy.

amothersplaceisinthewrong Mon 12-May-14 22:21:30

Long tunic over cropped skinnies looks Ok - Long tunic with bootcut jeans is all wrong - proportion, proportion, proportion.

CrystalSkulls Mon 12-May-14 22:25:27

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ThornOfCamorr Mon 12-May-14 22:28:36

God I love cardigans.

ColdTeaAgain Mon 12-May-14 22:36:46

Shorter tunics I wear with jeans, longer ones I wear with leggings or bare legs in summer -stubble length permitting--

Care if it's fashionable or not? No.

Preciousbane Mon 12-May-14 22:37:37

I own this rather bizarre tunic top, that isn't me btw.

ColdTeaAgain Mon 12-May-14 22:38:28

Care that every time I try to do a strikeout, I do it wrong? No. yes

ThornOfCamorr Mon 12-May-14 22:39:49

I like that top!

Preciousbane Mon 12-May-14 22:41:07

Thorn the back of the tunic has the back view of the cats on it.

Fishandjam Mon 12-May-14 22:44:32

I have a fabulous Dotty P tunic I got off eBay. It's bottle green with psychedelic owls on it. Do I look weird in it when I wear it? Probably. How much of a shit do I give? About 2 microns.

Sometimes I even wear it over flares.

ThornOfCamorr Mon 12-May-14 23:38:54

It's great preciousbane grin

kentishgirl Tue 13-May-14 07:44:37

I am going to hit this Indian clothes shop. Some amazing things and so cheap!

flattering 3 piece set for work for £14 =

loving this tunic - not 'cool' but who cares?

kentishgirl Tue 13-May-14 07:45:27
Fishandjam Tue 13-May-14 09:24:06

Ooh, I love it Kentish! I have a couple of kameez that I bought when I worked in Bangalore, and I think they look fine over leggings or skinnies. Maybe not "cool", but I'm happy with them.

Burmahere Tue 13-May-14 11:41:32

Why are people (on here) so often proud of looking shit? Don't understand why you would feel that way? I'm not talking about worrying what other people think of you but odd not to take some care over your appearance? Why give up or did you always feel that way?

Love the idea of psychedelic owls!! grin

grocklebox Tue 13-May-14 11:43:46

Did you mean to sound so rude?

UriGeller Tue 13-May-14 11:50:09

Can someone post a picture of a typical tunic please?

I'm wearing a variety of "frocks" over skinny jeans at the mo, I hate my pale legs, now I'm a bit confused that they might be a bit tunicky.

LaQueenOfTheMay Tue 13-May-14 11:56:02

Slim fit jeans and a tunic are a sillouhette which works well for me - my shoulders and boobs are good, so I like a scoop neck or a slash neck tunic...but my tummy (2 c-sections in one year) has to be disguised at all costs, so...

I collect tunics from White Stuff, and The White Company - and I live and die in Next Slim Fit jeans, because they're more flattering than skinny-fit, on me.

I couldn't care less whether I look fashionable - have a friend, who is still very fashion conscious, and to be frank she usually looks like she got dressed in the dark.

Aspiringhuman Tue 13-May-14 11:56:57

burma I'm not proud of looking shit I'm ashamed of it but I look shit whatever I wear do better to be comfortable and look shit than uncomfortable and still look shit. I've always felt this way, I've had my ugliness and horribleness made clear to me from an early age so may as well accept it. I do care about being clean and not smelly though.

SirChenjin Tue 13-May-14 11:57:26

Why are people (on here) so often proud of looking shit

Why, because it sends people like you into a spin of course. Most satisfying.

grocklebox Tue 13-May-14 12:01:31
LtEveDallas Tue 13-May-14 12:26:34

I think they look good with wide leg linen trousers in the summer too. When I lived in Cyprus I pretty much lived in that style - chuck a V necked cotton or linen tunic over the top of my swimsuit during the day, and team it up with a pair of cream/white linen trousers in the evening. Much less hassle than a sarong, and much more flattering.

SirChenjin Tue 13-May-14 12:38:04

White wide leg linen trousers AND tunics??! Are you trying to give the fashionistas collective heart attacks? grin that's my summer outfit

BomChickaMeowMeow Tue 13-May-14 12:40:18

It seems to me more about loose blouses with jeans rather than longer tunics this year, but really, just wear what suits you. Sod fashion.

LaQueenOfTheMay Tue 13-May-14 17:53:51

I can only work the tunic and wide leg trouser look, if I'm wearing some seriously high wedges - thereby conveying the illusion that I'm much taller and more willowy, than I actually am.

alemci Tue 13-May-14 17:54:50

isn't looking s**t subjective and a matter of opinion.

LtEveDallas Tue 13-May-14 18:20:38

Ah yes LeQueen, I resemble that remark grin

LaQueenOfTheMay Tue 13-May-14 19:16:32

Oh, yes <cough> me too, me too <cough>

MyrtleDove Tue 13-May-14 19:35:43

There is a huge difference between not being fashion-conscious and 'looking shit', and also a huge difference between 'looking shit' and 'not giving a shit'.

I like fashion and appreciate it as an artform. I am also plus-size so unless I spent ££££ and time on sewing my own (fabric is NOT cheap), a lot of what is available to me is expensive polyester tents, horrid sublimation prints and sludgy colours. I do my best to not look shit (according to me) and to enjoy fashion as much as I can. I don't give a toss if others don't like my outfit though, or consider it not fashionable enough.

Also, do people really hate white, wide-legged linen trousers?? shock They are so practical in hot weather!

JapaneseMargaret Tue 13-May-14 19:43:53

I don't think tunics and jeans do necessarily hide a multitude of sins. At all. I think they do a great job of accentuating apple shapes.

grocklebox Tue 13-May-14 19:46:07

but they can work wonders on a muffin top if you get the right ones.

ElkTheory Tue 13-May-14 19:48:38

Tunics look utterly ridiculous on me so I avoid them. But surely people should wear what they like and feel comfortable wearing. I happen to think that leggings and skinny jeans look unflattering on about 95% of the people who wear them. But why should anyone care about my opinion? Wear what you like! Down with the fashion police! (Shall we start a movement?)

SirChenjin Tue 13-May-14 20:23:58

Count me in Elk!

<waves placard, burns bra (nervously, as things aren't quite what they once were)>

Fishandjam Tue 13-May-14 21:09:44

@myrtledove "I do my best to not look shit (according to me) and to enjoy fashion as much as I can. I don't give a toss if others don't like my outfit though, or consider it not fashionable enough."


Burmahere Tue 13-May-14 21:11:45

I'm not in a spin and didn't mean to come across as rude. Agree with MyrtleDove that there is a huge difference (and that is what I was trying to say) with beating your own drum and having an individual look, not caring whether others approve or not as opposed to genuinely not giving a hoot as to what you look like and not making any effort whatsoever? It's written on this thread by a couple of posters so gave rise to my curiosity. Didn't appear to sound grumpy sorry!

Rivercam Wed 14-May-14 08:27:00

I saw bootcut jeans being referred to as 'retro' recently. I haven't stopped wearing them, as they suit my pear shaped figure.

I think to be stylish/fashionable, you have to find clothes that suit your body. I had no idea until Suzanne and Trinny taught what shapes suit my pear shaped figure and although I still get it wrong sometimes, I'm a much more savvy dresser than I used to be. Some people can naturally determine what clothes suit them, I had to learn ( in my 20/30s).

Bambambini Wed 14-May-14 11:28:48

Will if tunics etc are out that's me fucked! Was always partial to tea dresses though.

NickiFury Wed 14-May-14 15:34:39

I would love to know where all these MN fashionistas live. I'm waiting for dd at her West London primary surrounded by tunics, leggings and jeans and some of them look lovely.

Vintagejazz Wed 14-May-14 15:49:12

I know Nicki, it can look great on some people. Surprised at the posters on here who swear it was 'never a cool look'. It mightn't be high fashion any more but it can still look stylish and elegantly casual when done well.

SirChenjin Wed 14-May-14 17:52:54

The one who "would rather be mutton than mumsy" lives in Paris. She posts regularly to inform us Brits how shit we dress.

NickiFury Wed 14-May-14 21:22:47

I'm quite fascinated by this thread. I was shopping today and kept my eyes open for tunics and they're everywhere. Why is everyone selling them if we shouldn't be wearing them? Uniqlo (a shop I find is usually pretty on trend) has them, river island - more like oversized T-shirts but still styled with leggings. Walking round Westfield - London, girls and women wearing dresses and tunics and long t-shirts and leggings everywhere.

So come on, step up and tell us what we are supposed to be wearing!

FindoGask Wed 14-May-14 21:31:19

I don't own a single tunic. I have my own style which is neither cool nor fashion-oriented, and briefly it comprises

1) jeans - skinny or wide-cut; or, tailored trousers, very occasionally a mini skirt
2) long sleeve shirts or t-shirts or jersey tops, or long knitted jumpers
3) converse or boots or flip-flops or ballet flats, depending on occasion

no jewellery, little to no make-up, very cropped greying hair.

I listened to a Woman's Hour episode recently which talked about how some women dress expressively, and some women have a uniform - I definitely fit into the uniform category. I feel comfortable like this, in the sense that I feel most like myself. I'm in my mid-thirties, I look my age, and I think I'll keep looking my age as I get older. And that's fine by me!

Caitlin17 Thu 15-May-14 01:19:37

I definitely have a uniform. For work very tailored but unconventional jackets and skirts from a Dutch designer not stocked in UK, a French designer available on a limited basis and a few handmade (not by me) jackets. For out of work 40s and 50s style dresses.

I've never owned a tunic (I'm not even sure what that is) nor leggings. I don't own trousers of any sort, nor jeans,nor trainers, crocs, converse etc nor anything made of sweatshirt material.

GoshAnneGorilla Thu 15-May-14 01:49:52


Caitlin, you could have just spared us the descriptions and just written "I am considerably richer than you", but that wouldn't have been so amusing.

I am in the tea dress/opaques/flats/cardigan group.

Am 5ft and an apple and tunics look like hell on me.

Never managed to work out what to put on feet with leggings and jeans are no longer my friend now that I have breached size 14 :-D

SirChenjin Thu 15-May-14 07:32:35

grin Gosh

EduardoBarcelona Thu 15-May-14 07:34:52

tea deress= vile cheap polysteter

JapaneseMargaret Thu 15-May-14 10:38:52

This thread. grin

Solo Thu 15-May-14 11:47:26

I like tea dresses and mine aren't cheap polyester!

Fishandjam Thu 15-May-14 11:55:28

Caitlin, your post is on purpose, yes? grin

TheOriginalSteamingNit Thu 15-May-14 18:09:06

Tea dresses don't have to be made out of polyester! Cheap or otherwise!

Caitlin17 Thu 15-May-14 21:12:18

I don't think I have anything made of polyester. Tea dresses are usually silk, viscose, cotton or cotton jersey. Viscose is an odd one; I can't decide if it is man made or not. It is from a natural fibre but seems to involve more processes than silk or wool.

Aspiringhuman Thu 15-May-14 22:06:16

I'm sure I've seen cotton tea dresses.

Fishandjam Fri 16-May-14 14:20:53

A tea dress would make me look like I shopped at Eastex or Windsmoor. Frumptastic!

SirChenjin Fri 16-May-14 16:25:21

Tea dresses have the same effect on me Fish - I could get away with them in my younger days. Mid forties and I just look like a middle aged wifie in a floral frock - which is what I am, I guess grin

annjjcook Sat 24-May-14 17:31:15

really, no longer cool? long as I am comfortable and clean I am past caring

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