To think 12 is too young for an all nighter?

(53 Posts)
SpringItOn Thu 01-May-14 18:16:59

DS has just phoned me from the local indoor skate/BMX park. he wants to go to an all nighter, 9pm to 9am for his friends 12th birthday. Sounds like theyve just seen a flyer for it down there but apparently his friends mum has said its ok. AIBU to think 12 is way too young for an all nighter? The staff are lovely and so are the other guys who go, but, I think he's too young and have said no. He'll be completely knackered for days afterwards.

He is not a happy skate boy!

arethereanyleftatall Thu 01-May-14 18:18:49

Do you mean they skate all night?

HeadfirstForTHiddy Thu 01-May-14 18:20:28

I would probably say yes tbh, as a one off.

HeadfirstForTHiddy Thu 01-May-14 18:21:05

He would be on early nights for a week as part of the deal though.

HeadfirstForTHiddy Thu 01-May-14 18:21:53

I can see why you and other parents might not be keen, mind.

SpringBreaker Thu 01-May-14 18:21:59

I would want to know how well supervised it was and the ages of the others there

I have a 12 year old DS and it wouldn't be a straight no. I would want to know who else is going, supervision etc.

Deftones Thu 01-May-14 18:23:45

I'd say yes to it, but then I was a skater and knew many skaters and there were plenty of all nighters

Andrewofgg Thu 01-May-14 18:25:30

On a Thursday night with school the next day? You have got to be boring and say No and mean No.

AlpacaLypse Thu 01-May-14 18:27:28

apparently his friend's mum says it's okay

I'd want to speak to her face to face!

WowOoo Thu 01-May-14 18:28:16

I'd compromise and say he can do a half nighter as long as it was on a Friday and he had the weekend to catch up on sleep.

Or just say no!

cardibach Thu 01-May-14 18:28:22

I'd want more info, but wouldn't say no on the grounds of tiredness. Early nights before and after would sort that. However, it might attract an unsuitable (to mix with 12 year olds) crowd and I'd want to know more about entry policy, supervision and intended participants.

SpringItOn Thu 01-May-14 18:32:54

No, it's on a Saturday night. So mixed responses! Yes they skateboard or BMX all night. He's pleading via text at the moment as there are only limited places. Had a quick word with DH, he's of the same opinion that it's probably aimed at older teens rather than 12 year olds.

LittleprincessinGOLDrocks Thu 01-May-14 18:33:17

It depends what day it is. If it is on a Saturday I would think about it. He could have a lie in on the Saturday till around lunchtime, and then he could go straight to bed on coming home and have a lazy day all sunday and go to bed early. Treat it like a night shift.

Any other day I think it would be a no.

LittleprincessinGOLDrocks Thu 01-May-14 18:35:43

sorry cross posted. I think I would insist on meeting the other childs mum and insuring that there will be adequate supervision. I would also consider me or DH being there to supervise for at least an hour or 2.

I think I would consider it for a 12yo in the school holidays (or possibly the Saturday before a Bank Holiday), but not on a regular Saturday night.

SpringItOn Thu 01-May-14 18:38:35

I'm not too worried about the crowd it will attract, the older skateboarders are always good with the younger ones, it restored my faith in teen boys when my DS was a beginner age 7/8. I think it's more about too much too young. I give him a lot of freedom but if I let him stay out all night, what's he going to want next!?

bigdeal Thu 01-May-14 18:43:29

it would depend on supervision for me , if that was all ok it would be a yes, would rather mine did that than being on the laptop all night .

Is it possible to ring the skate place and ask about it?

I don't think by letting him do this it's too much too soon though, he will have a great time by the sound of it.

littleblackno Thu 01-May-14 18:44:57

I would probably say yes if I was happy with the set up regarding supervision etc. My ds (8) and dd (6) are starting to do things with cubs and beavers, camps etc, they are not technically supposed to be up all night but get very little sleep and are fine after a few early nights. They get a lot out of it and really enjoy it even if they are grumpy the next day.

SpringItOn Thu 01-May-14 18:55:00

Ok maybe IABU then grin

I think littleblackno makes a good point re younger ones being allowed to camp out etc. I'll see what other info I can find out re supervision.

SaucyJack Thu 01-May-14 19:02:26

I reckon all night might be pushing it- but you could arrange to pick him up at 1 or 2?

VivaLeBeaver Thu 01-May-14 19:11:54

Dd's school did a sports all nighter when she was in Year 7. They could sleep in a corner if they got tired. I got a phone call at 1am to come and get her. grin

I'd let him.

pictish Thu 01-May-14 19:13:55

Assuming they will be safe and supervised, I'd say yes. I have a boy of 12 and a half, and he'd love to do something like this.

Preciousbane Thu 01-May-14 19:18:45

Probably fine with further info.

I was shock because I thought an actual all nighter in a disused ex military building where lots of people dropped acid and your friend drives in to a ditch. Well that was the last all nighter I went to anyway.

Fathertedfan Thu 01-May-14 19:26:55

I'd say no. Save this kind of thing for when you're older or you won't have anything to look forward to. But then I'm a miserable old bat as a rule.

PlasticLamp Thu 01-May-14 19:29:27

We had 12 hour discos (7pm - 7am) every two years at school. I remember sleeping for a whole day afterwards grin

SpringItOn Thu 01-May-14 19:35:21

grin Hopefully no rave music, whistles or illuminous clothing will be involved precious

Just checked the flyer on their FB page and it does say from 12 years so they must be expecting younger ones too. I predict a sleepless Saturday night may be coming my way next weekend.

VivaLeBeaver Thu 01-May-14 19:48:03

The trick is to put him to bed first thing in the morning then up early afternoon. He'll be tired and grumpy and then have an early night.....hopefully.

Greyhound Thu 01-May-14 19:50:14

Definitely NO from me.

SpringItOn Thu 01-May-14 20:19:57

Looks like he's just shot himself in the foot just as I was coming round to the idea. Just got a text from his friends mum, she hadn't agreed, but had told her son to put his name down but it was not a yes until she had more info and had spoken to other parents.
She was told that the other friend they were with had parents agreement (he didnt) so looks like they were all playing us off. Tut. Nice try.

'Busted!' Came her reply! Yup, well and truly!

So it's a no for this time.

pictish Thu 01-May-14 20:21:24

Fair dos.

Mrsjayy Thu 01-May-14 20:28:39

spak to the its ok his mum said it was ok first then decide what you are going to say I can't say i would be happy with them unsupervised and it might not even be op to under <whatever age> iyswim

Mrsjayy Thu 01-May-14 20:28:52


Mrsjayy Thu 01-May-14 20:29:38

OH i knew i should have read the full thread wel thats him caught then little buggers they do like to chance their arms,

PrincessBabyCat Thu 01-May-14 20:33:03

I give him a lot of freedom but if I let him stay out all night, what's he going to want next!?

If he's generally respectful, this shouldn't be a problem. You know your kid better than us. If you think he'll get into trouble, keep him home. If you know he'll behave and has good friends that stay out of trouble, I don't see the problem.

How is this really any different than a sleep over? Kids stay awake at those all night, and sleep overs have far, far less supervision than a public area. At his age I'd be more worried about him staying at a different parent's house because this is the age that parents start "breaking rules" and allowing their kids to do stuff they shouldn't or they just don't supervise period.

I'd let my kid go, but I'd be setting ground rules (no drinking, sex, drugs, leaving the area, etc..). He has all Sunday to sleep. I wouldn't be giving any sympathy when he was tired Monday and still expect him to get up early, do well in school, and finish hw before going to bed.

Oh let him go. He will be so excited. He can sleep on Sunday.

I loved my parents for letting me do stuff like this. We had a pretty much free reign, and were totally trustworthy because of it.

13lucky Thu 01-May-14 20:57:33

Wow, amazed that the majority would say yes. I must be a right rat bag because I think 12 is way too young for this. But then I don't have a 12 year old at the moment

SpringItOn Thu 01-May-14 21:00:01

Aggghhh monkeyface now I feel bad! Erm I have to ask about your MN nickname......?

SpringItOn Thu 01-May-14 21:03:52

I think it's different to a sleepover princess as he'd be dropping into a bowl on his BMX at 4am grin

My dd is called Grace. We told her that she used to be a monkey, we found her in a tree, shaved her body and kept her. So the nickname MonkeyfaceGrace was born. And its been used ever since grin

Oh let the boy go.

Preciousbane Thu 01-May-14 21:19:28

Ooh very naughty, I can see why all Mums are annoyed.

sassysally Thu 01-May-14 21:19:39

My DD had an allnighter at her gym at 7 years old! There was a quiet area with sleeping bags and crash mats for those that wanted to sleep.The first child was asleep at 3.30 but most stayed awake all night!
It was in the school holidays though

parentalunit Thu 01-May-14 21:27:28

Oh my goodness, no way I would let my children do this! unless the center are prepared to keep him until his sleep pattern returns to normal

HavannaSlife Thu 01-May-14 21:32:53

He's 12 let him if he wants to, we had all night discos at school from age 11.

usualsuspectt Thu 01-May-14 21:36:56

Let him go.

ChippyMinton Thu 01-May-14 21:38:27

I'd want to know who was supervising etc, but would be fine otherwise. DS is the same age and will be out hiking until 4am Saturday, with the Scouts. He will be knackered but will love every minute.

usualsuspectt Thu 01-May-14 21:39:11

I don't think one all nighter will affect his sleep pattern. He's young ,he will be back to normal after Sunday night.

Nocomet Thu 01-May-14 21:43:25

DDs class pulled all nighters in Y6, OK they were in and out if a hot tub (all girls) not BMX riding, but they didn't drown anyone.

SpringItOn Thu 01-May-14 21:43:37

He's not asked about it since he got home. I think his friend must have txt him and told him they've been busted. His friends not allowed to go now anyway for telling porkies.

AwfulMaureen Thu 01-May-14 21:48:51

I would allow that. 12 is big enough to manage.

AwfulMaureen Thu 01-May-14 21:50:13

I just asked DH and he said no. 16 year old lads will be there...taking drugs. shock Speed and the like. OP...he's too young.

PrincessBabyCat Fri 02-May-14 02:28:16

Oh. Just read that he lied. Uh oh.

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