To consider pressing charges (warning - uncomfortable reading)

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CannotPretendAnymore Sun 23-Mar-14 22:49:25

NC for this post.

Sorry in advance this is so long there's a lot of background to it.
When I was little my stepdad, on very few occasions, touched me and one time tried to get me to perform oral sex on him - I was about 6 (I didn't). I can probably count on the fingers of one hand how many times this happened over the years. Until I was 16 and my brothers moved out so was just me, him and mum.

From then on, until I moved out age 19 (for the record I'd have done it sooner but was in FT education so couldn't afford to) he basically sexually harassed me. He "tried it on" in a physical sense a few times but I ran out the house when he did this.

A few examples of things he'd do (not a pleasant read I must warn you) were -
- He'd stand with his bedroom door ajar when mum wasn't around and would masturbate when I walked past
- When I was in my room he'd "talk dirty" through the walls
- he'd try to get in my room naked when mum was out (I barricaded the door though and made sure these occasions were few and far between, usually I'd just hear the front door go and hear mums car drive away and would panic)
- he offered me money on a few occasions to sleep with him, and once left a note offering £500 in the bathroom (when he knew did be going in for a shower) with a sex toy next to it
- he'd have his dick hanging out if I walked in a room where he was on his own. Once I was watching TV lying on the sofa and snuck in and touched my face with it
- I had a sky box in my room and he used to sneak in when I was out and turn it to the porn channels so porn would be on when I switched the TV on
- perhaps the worst thing he did once was cover his dick in something (I'm guessing Vaseline but honestly dread to think) and pressed it against my bedroom mirror and wrote a message in it (I can't bring myself to type what we wrote)

It went on for 3 years and I kept quiet, basically because I didn't want mum to know what a scumbag she was married to, he'd had countless affairs before, which she'd forgiven him for, but I knew this would send her over the edge. In hindsight I should have gathered evidence - like kept the note and taken pictures of my mirror - but I panicked and my only thought at the time was "get out the house now". He never attacked me but the fear that he would was very real. I was out the house as much as possible.

Anyway when I was 19 and on the brink of moving out, mum put 2 and 2 together after seeing him grab my bum in the kitchen. She confronted him and he confessed to everything. We had a big talk about it, I told her everything except that he abused me as a child - I just couldn't see her hurt any further. She said she'd leave him, move in with me and forget all about him. I was thrilled, but never did, she stayed with him as she was in a low-ish paid job and couldn't support herself financially.

Fast forward 10 years, I am married and have a 10 month old DD of my own. Looking at my DD I couldn't imagine ever allowing that to happen to her. Me and mum haven't spoken about what happened since she decided she was staying with stepdad. It's like it's never happened, and she has tried to push a father/daughter relationship onto me. For example, at my wedding I wanted her to give me away (real dad passed away) but she insisted in front of a family friend that stepdad do it. When I said no she started crying, so I looked like a dick in front of her friend, long story short I basically got guilted into letting him give me away. It ruined my day completely and linking his arm made me feel sick.

Anyway DH and I decided that he'd never meet DD because he simply cannot be trusted. I don't even want him breathing the same air as her. They live abroad so when she was born mum came over and kept banging on about how DDs "grandad" (my stepdad) couldn't wait to meet her. After much soul searching I wrote her a letter telling her that a) he'd never ever meet Dd and b) I am so very hurt about her taking him back and I want to talk about it.

Initially her response was very understanding and she didn't argue or fall out with me like I expected she would. However I got no answers as to why she took him back exactly (it was an email) and a couple of days later I got a phone call to say she was in hospital, she had a huge panic attack because of my letter. So since then I've treaded very carefully about talking about it, she has had heart problems in the past and I don't want to trigger an attack. However it's a slow process and she's clearly upset that I've banned her husband from seeing my daughter. She sort of changes the subject when I bring it up and has mentioned that they are moving closer to his family in another country (I've told her I'm happy to come to her house with DD as long as he isn't there but I've had no invitation).

Anyway to the point of my post - dragging all this up has made me think a lot about what happened and it's been a difficult few months for me, there has been lots of tears and anger. Stepdad is seen as a Demi-god by most people we know, I'm constantly told by other family that after my own dad ran out on us when I was a child that I am "so lucky" that stepdad "took us on " and I surely consider him my real dad? I can't bear the lies anymore and I can't pretend everything is ok. I really want closure on the situation and I don't think I'll get it from my mum. DH thinks I should go to the police and press charges.

So my question is, after so long, and so few actual instances of physical assault, and no evidence other than emails/letters to and from me and mum, AIBU to think about pressing charges? Would it be worth it? Would anything happen? Would it cause more upset than good? He has a son, my stepbrother, who I am very close with, and I wouldn't want to lose him as a result of turning his dad in to the police. Stepbrother has a DD too (who stepdad has met once as a newborn) and I feel I owe it to her too to protect her. Please be brutally honest and tell me if it's not worth it!

CannotPretendAnymore Sun 23-Mar-14 22:56:12

Forgot to say only other bit of evidence I'd have is from my best friend. I told her about the harassment as she confessed that, during a brief spell where she worked for him, he harrassed her in similar ways to. She says she'd be very supportive of me if i pressed charges and would give evidence

CambridgeBlue Sun 23-Mar-14 22:58:06

I have no idea whether you will get anywhere by pressing charges but my instinct is to say you have to try. What you describe is awful and it doesn't seem right it should be swept under the carpet.

I'm so sorry you had to go through this. I had an abusive SF too - nowhere near this level thank God but I sympathise with how it confuses your feelings towards your DM and colours the rest of your life.

Very best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

AwfulMaureen Sun 23-Mar-14 22:58:44

Honestly? You need to call the police and let them know. It's very worth it.

Flossyfloof Sun 23-Mar-14 22:59:24

To be honest, if he lives abroad I am not sure what the chances are of him being brought back here to face charges, particularly since any evidence would be flimsy to say the least.
I think in your position I would try to continue to see my Mum but refuse to discuss him at all. Ever. I think that trying to press charges would be hugely stressful and difficult for you.

TwixTime Sun 23-Mar-14 22:59:55

I am so sorry you grew up not feeling safe in your own home. The betrayal of your mum staying with him also has my heart breaking for you. Sadly it's more common than you'd think and while it's easy to judge her god knows what demons she's fighting hence the panic attacks. I fear her denial will make her ill but it's not your duty to protect her from your abuse.

I can guarantee this predator would behave this way towards other vulnerable people. I plead with you to report him so that he goes on the sex register at least. I think that's what you want to do but are scared. I hope someone can come along with the practicalities of this step. Have you had counselling for this abuse?

Minorchristmascrisis Sun 23-Mar-14 23:01:07

I think if you go to the police, you are very brave and I hope you decide to as he deserves to be punished and be removed as a threat to any other young girls. I can totally understand why you are reluctant though. Are you prepared to potentially lose your mum and step-brother and maybe some other friends and family? If you believe it's worth it then yes, I would go to the police. Good luck and I'm so sorry this happened to you.

fridayfreedom Sun 23-Mar-14 23:04:06

So sorry you had to go through all this. You are doing the right thing for your DD.
I think you need to tell your step-brother and his partner so that they can protect their DD too.

Imsosorryalan Sun 23-Mar-14 23:04:20

I just wanted to say I'm so sorry about what has happened to you. No one, especially a child should have to go through this. You had no one to turn to when you were younger and your mum should feel guilty as hell.
I know you are trying to maintain a relationship with her but I worry for your daughter and I don't think you are losing anything by alienating her. I'm afraid it's very likely he has abused others.

I think you should report him, let the police worry about evidence. There are more lives at stake and even if it comes to nothing, he sure as he'll will know he can't get away with anymore. thanksthanksthanks

doorbellringer Sun 23-Mar-14 23:04:39

Firstly hugs and support to you.
Would you consider sitting step brother down and telling him face to face so he would know what was coming and why you were going to the police. I can't help but feel it's no coincidence he has only allowed access to his own DD once.
I think you will find more people coming out of the woodwork with similar stories, like your friend. Definitely go to the police, your mother made her choice. Time to take back control.

Preciousbane Sun 23-Mar-14 23:09:45

My stepfather was abusive, happily he died when I was 13.
I am very unsure about prosecution and hopefully someone with actual knowledge of the law will come along. Maybe speak to a survivors of child sex abuse charity or rape crisis, rape crisis gave me some help many years ago.

You are doing exactly the right thing by never ever letting him meet your DD. Do not ever doubt yourself. If your Mother wants to be offended then let her be and do not let her health make you feel guilty.

I actually find my Mothers denial a worse betrayal, I have had some counselling to help me. Maybe consider that. I found the birth of my dc actually triggered memories, apparently that is quite a common reaction when you become a parent yourself.

I wish you and your little family the very best.

throwinshapes Sun 23-Mar-14 23:12:56

Oh Christ. Just awful.
I would suggest that you make the allegation. At least you would feel that you are taking some form of control if the (dreadful) situation.
Like previous posters have said, not sure how easy it would be for cps to prosecute if he's abroad.
Do it anyway. Big hugs to you.

KurriKurri Sun 23-Mar-14 23:13:33

You can contact the police and ask them for advice, I have found them to be very helpful in my situation (which is not the same as yours, but involved an event from the past of a sexual nature). They said they would support me if I decided to press charges and it didn't matter how much time had passed.

They also put me in touch with a civilian support place where they help people come to decisions about such matters (but I needed to have that referral from the police to contact them) They talked through everything with me so I was able to reach my decision.

You were abused and had no choice in what happened to you, now you do have a choice in how you react and that is empowering.
As well as your concern for other children this disgusting man may come into contact with, you need to act in your own best interests to help you get some kind of closure to these awful events, at least explore your options - whatever you decide to do you won't have to make final decisions on the spot - you will be given help and advice every step of the way. It sounds as if you have a good partner to support you through this.

I'm so sorry this has happened to you thanks

Preciousbane Sun 23-Mar-14 23:13:56

To add regarding your stepbrother, you have to tell him because if anything happened to his DD you would feel dreadful. You give him the information, he then as the parent decides what to do. You will have done your best to protect her.

PigletJohn Sun 23-Mar-14 23:15:48

I am sure a police complaint is the essential first step. From what I hear abusers make a habit of it and you may not be the only one.

I had an uncle who one of my friends said had touched him as a child. It was not taken seriously until someone else said, oh yes, he tried it with me, but I said no and he stopped.

Somebody should have made a complaint.

LetTheRiverAnswer Sun 23-Mar-14 23:21:09

I have no idea what the chances of him being prosecuted for his offences against you would be, but at the very least if you go to the police, he's name would be on file. It seems very likely he would have abused others, so there may well be more evidence than yours alone.
It would also give a clear message to him and your mother that you will not be guilted or persuaded to allow him to have any contact with your dd, which may be something they try to grind you down on.
Its a terrible thing to have gone through and its a horrible decision to have to make now, I feel for you.

minouminou Sun 23-Mar-14 23:21:25

Did these offences happen in the UK or overseas, and where, if overseas, was it?

Where are they now?

ChrisMooseAlbanians Sun 23-Mar-14 23:28:10

Please do report it. I agree that it may be difficult to bring charges against him, but if he abused you, and harassed your best friend, who else has he done this too?

And please, please tell your stepbrother. Please protect your niece.

TwixTime Sun 23-Mar-14 23:28:17

Op I hope you are ok- bringing all this up must feel very raw and the lengths your own mum has went to trying to make you feel as though it wasn't as big a deal as it was must feel even harder when you have strangers (myself included) telling you to go to the police.

While I feel you should go to the police don't for one second take on board any of the guilt for this disgusting mans actions. He may have abused others but that is his responsibility, his actions, not whether you reported him or not. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say although I'm sure someone else would be able to say it more eloquently.

steff13 Sun 23-Mar-14 23:28:36

I think you should alert the police, so at least he can be on their radar, but is there a statute of limitations on what happened to you?

ICanSeeTheSun Sun 23-Mar-14 23:33:33

www.rapecrisis.org.uk/childsexualabuse2.php

Talk with rape crisis first, they can help you in the best way to make reporting easier.

Good luck in what you decide.

minouminou Sun 23-Mar-14 23:35:19

Do it for you, primarily.
If he's brought to book for abusing other people, if others come forward, and if he's prevented from doing it to anyone in the future, that's brilliant, but these other aspects are not in your control.

Pre-warn your StDB that it's coming. You're not letting DD anywhere near him anyway, so she's ok.

This all rings so many bells.

theeternalstudent Sun 23-Mar-14 23:39:21

I'm so sorry that this happened to you and that your mum has decided to stay with this man. Like others have said, the chances are that he has done this to other young girls. What if your step-brothers have daughters??? Now, it's not your job to keep them safe, however by sharing your story you may help to prevent someone else from coming to harm as well as get some justice for the way you were treated.

The different country thing is a bit of a complication and I'm not sure how you would go about dealing with this. Can I suggest talking to someone like the NSPCC if you don't want to go to the police? I'm sure they can talk you through your different options.

LondonNinja Sun 23-Mar-14 23:47:21

First, don't minimise these awful, awful experiences. It might have been 'a few' times, but you lived in fear for years. And once is too often.

Your mum is upset because her daughter won't expose her baby to a child abuser ?? I am astounded. I'm so angry about this, OP. Where is her loyalty to you?

You are playing the role of protecting - your mum, the abusive SD, your own child - but who protects you?

The trouble is, it sounds as though your mum won't ever understand why you can't just, er, put sexual abuse behind you. Her reactions are likely to invoke guilt in you, I'd wager.

Speak to one of the organisations mentioned. Another is HAVOCA (can't link but do Google it; it's for survivors of abuse).

I feel for you. It's dreadful you are left with this fallout. You must do what makes you feel comfortable. You are the one living this.

LondonNinja Sun 23-Mar-14 23:50:25

You lived with this for THIRTEEN years. This is really awful, OP. I just want you to realise that his actions and the threat of more, are a big deal. These are not 'only' anything. The man is beyond disgusting.

Famzilla Mon 24-Mar-14 00:21:34

I'm so sorry for what has happened to you. You must tell your step brother firstly, that little girl needs protecting. Have you had any counselling?

Morloth Mon 24-Mar-14 01:18:49

Do it, if only for your niece's sake.

Your DD is safe because you know, she isn't because her dad doesn't.

Your Mum has made her choice unfortunately, she is already lost.

OP I am so sorry to hear what you went through, and are still going through. Only you can devide whether reporting him is the best thing foryou because it is you who has to relay this distressing information to others. I am glad you have a friend as both witness and support if you do.
What he did was absolutely abhorrent and you have dine the right thing in shielding your DD from him.

TestingTestingWonTooFree Mon 24-Mar-14 06:45:11

I agree you should report this to the police. It might be helpful to take notes with you, particularly of details (eg incident A was Christmas 1996 when I was aged X).

Your mum has completely failed you. She will not protect your niece.

OhMerGerd Mon 24-Mar-14 07:23:18

I understand how hard it is especially as you'll be worried about triggering a serious health reaction in your mum but for the sake of the next generation of girls in your family (and goodness knows how many more outside of it) you need to let people know about this man.

I'd start with your brother. It's best he hears it from you and face to face if possible. Think back to moments that can corroborate your story ... Like 'when mum briefly moved out in 2001' or ' remember the fuss about your dad giving me away' ... Then go on to explain you have been coerced by mum and his dad into keeping the secret but as you will never let his dad near your dd and you love him and neice you felt you had to tell him so he can protect his child. Explain you know it will be a shock to him but that now you have told him he can take whatever action he feels is best, but that you will have a clear conscience on that score. He might think you're trying to break the family so I'd be clear to him that you don't expect him to say or do anything on your behalf and that you're not suggesting he stop seeing his dad just be sure to never leave his dd alone with him.

If you plan to tell the police or your plan is to not stay silent with people outside the family when they ask why you don't go round etc ... Make sure you tell your brother what you plan to do. Even if he disagrees with you the fact you have had the courage to tell him face to face which will count for something when it calms down later. Then do it. Don't wait for them to start telling the world their version.

Your brother may have had an inkling that something like this was behind your reluctance to be more active with family or at least wondered about things in the past that didn't seem quite right. You never know his wife/ partner might have mentioned odd behaviour that they've laughed off as accidental but now they will see it for what it is. And he could be a big support.

He may be shocked and angry but he will want to find out from parents. They may deny it all, though it does sound as if your mother might at least give him the nod to keep an eye out for his dd, especially if you tell him to ask her about when she briefly left step father and his admission at the time.

Either way once you've told him. You will feel braver about telling others be it the police or those who think this man is a 'Demi god'. Always keep it factual. 'He sexually abused me from age x to y. Mum left him briefly because of it but went back to him. I didn't tell because they begged me not too but I became worried about my dd and neice so I am not keeping the secret anymore'. That's all anybody else apart from police or counsellor needs to know.

Get help from counselling groups mentioned by other posters.

Abusers don't think their victims are brave enough to out them. Your step dad will use your mothers health as a threat to keep you silent. I'd say your mums heart problems probably stem from living with such an awful man for years (who knows what he puts her through) and the guilt of knowing her daughter has been abused.
You'll be lightening her load too in long run.

I've not been in this situation but that's how I'd handle it if I was.

RahRahRasputin Mon 24-Mar-14 07:46:49

If it's something you want to follow up, the police will hopefully have someone who can advise you.

I'm so sorry this has happened to you, what a disgusting excuse for a human being. And I'm sorry too that your mum has not stood up for you, either then or now.

Did you see your mum when she was in hospital? How does anyone know it was linked to the letter, does that mean step dad has seen it? It all seems a bit convenient, that you sent her a letter that meant she had to face up to her failings as a mother and then suddenly there's a reason why you can't talk about it.

Could you perhaps tell your step brother and his partner together? I suspect he probably still sexually harasses people so he may even have done something to her when they visited.

flowers I hope you find the course of action that is best for you and your family (by which I mean your husband and daughter)

deakymom Mon 24-Mar-14 08:08:21

its the least you can do i did it on behalf of my daughter and although nothing really happened it did mean that when she went to a solicitor demanding access to my daughter (not my son just my daughter) the solicitor told her he would not be allowed to see her so she dropped the case and doesn't see her at all

you have to protect your child xx

CannotPretendAnymore Tue 25-Mar-14 21:59:59

Thank you everyone for your responses, it's actually very comforting to hear that people agree I've been through something horrible after having it played down so much!

All your info was really useful, I am going to talk to rape crisis first to discuss my experience and my options, I have never had counselling so going to my GP on Thursday to ask for this as I think it will help. And i will be pressing charges. It's a huge thing, it could mean I have to stand up in court and have my name in the paper, and have everyone know what happened, but I know I need to remember that I've done nothing wrong.

But before any of that I'm talking to my brother and telling him everything. His LG is nearly 2 and has only met stepdad once when she was a few weeks old, and my brother and his GF have not been to visit them since (I do find this a bit odd and wonder if maybe his girlfriend had an incling as she was apparently very frosty with stepdad the whole visit). It will be harder to do that than any of it I think but my brother is understanding and I think he will believe me, especially when he was a daughter that he adores and would protect with his life.

Thank you again everyone, I will keep everybody updated as to how it goes, wish me luck smile thanks

TwixTime Tue 25-Mar-14 22:05:26

I know this might sound a bit twee coming from a stranger but I feel very proud of you. Good luck and take care flowers

theeternalstudent Tue 25-Mar-14 22:06:25

Good luck cannot I hope you get the support you need to take this further. flowers

chipshop Tue 25-Mar-14 22:16:01

What happened to you is beyond belief, I'm so sorry.

Your name wouldn't be "in the paper" btw, anyone who reports a sexual offence immediately has anonymity for life, so nothing to worry about there.

LondonNinja Tue 25-Mar-14 22:55:39

Bloody well done! You're so brave and wonderful.

You'll have lifelong anonymity so no one will know who you are from the court case.

Be proud of yourself. And good luck with the counselling and coming to terms with it all. It's a rough road but you're heading in the right direction.

WilsonFrickett Tue 25-Mar-14 23:07:31

Well done. You are taking control back and that is amazing. May I tactfully suggest, given your update, that you tell both your brother and your SIL? It does sound like she is on to him, but just in case DB minimises it I think it will help protect your niece if her mum knows too.

You are being bloody brilliant op.

Viviennemary Tue 25-Mar-14 23:13:41

If it was me I'd have absolutely nothing to do with my Mum or StepDad and certainly wouldn't even consider letting them near my children. I think you should go and have some counselling about this and then see if you can make a decision on whether to take steps towards a prosecution.

It's quite shocking that you are being the one made to feel in the wrong.

Viviennemary Tue 25-Mar-14 23:14:52

Sorry didn't see your update.

Bemused33 Tue 25-Mar-14 23:48:13

Well done

BratinghamPalace Wed 26-Mar-14 02:59:11

How full of courage you are. How lucky your dd is. You were not. Stop thinking of your mum as a "mum" and start thinking of and treating her like a troubled woman. You cannot fix her or your past but you can own your future. Good luck.

AveryJessup Wed 26-Mar-14 03:20:40

Your mother is toxic. To have minimized your stepfather's abuse like that is a form of abuse in itself. She emotionally neglected you by staying with him and refusing to support you. It doesn't matter that she was financially dependent on him - most mothers would rather go without than put up with their daughter being abused and treated like sex object by a filthy old pervert. Making you accept him walking you down the aisle is just awful. You've been gaslighted your whole life so I think counseling will be great to help you see the truth on what happened.

You should definitely press charges and talk to your step brother and SIL. Often having your first child is a trigger for your own childhood issues to come back up to the surface after years of denial or trying to move on. As you say, it's when you look at your own child and realize how wrong your parents' behavior was.

Good luck and stay strong! Glad to hear you have a supportive DH and hopefully step brother too.

Ilikepancakes Wed 26-Mar-14 22:38:35

I think you should go to the police, there isn't much evidence but you have to try. He could abuse other girls in the future and you step-niece could be at risk. You are right to keep him away from your daughter. As far as your mum goes just invite her to visit alone and offer to visit her when he isn't around and leave it up to her. Let her know you would be there for her if she wanted to leave him for good.

Ilikepancakes Wed 26-Mar-14 22:40:07

Just saw your update. Well done smile

summerbreezer Wed 26-Mar-14 22:52:16

Hi Cannot - just to let you know, as a complainant in a sex case you will have anonymity for life. So your name will never be in the paper if you decide to press charges and have to give evidence. Good luck.

stopprojecting Thu 27-Mar-14 09:31:58

It sounds like your brother and SIL have the measure of this man.

Your mother has really let you down. She's not only selfish enough to stay with someone who has hurt you, but then has a health drama when you don't go along with what she wants. People like her just want an easy life and for everyone else to fit in with their deluded way of thinking, but you are doing the right thing by seeking help and assistance.

Let her perform as much as she wants and be aware that it's all coming from a place of selfishness, and isn't your problem. Good luck. I'm really sorry this has happened and in awe of your bravery and courage to face it.

Jux Thu 27-Mar-14 11:32:46

Well done. All good decisions. I too think your brother's gf has a pretty good idea of what her fil is like; I wonder if it's worth having a sounding-out type chat with her before talking to your brother?

I dp think that if anyone - anyone at all - says anything about your step dad, that you should respond truthfully. "Hmmm, no he was an awful sd, always trying it on. I had to barricade my bedroom door when mum was out" and so on. Tell the truth, you have done nothing wrong.

Good luck at the GP.

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