To wonder why CBeebies etc don't broadcast through the night

(49 Posts)
DoJo Tue 18-Mar-14 18:48:20

Just that really - surely it would make sense for all the parents who are up with teething, ill or just restless little ones to have age-appropriate TV to watch so that they can be distracted from whatever ails them.

My son is ill atm and I am more than likely to be up with him in the night, when we will have a wonderful selection of airport programmes and 20 minute long adverts - never thought I would long for Mr Maker or In the Night Garden, but sometimes they are just what you need...

SageMist Tue 18-Mar-14 18:51:49

It's because cbbc and cbeebies are actually the same digital channels as BBC three and BBC four. So they can't be on at the same time.

Thetallesttower Tue 18-Mar-14 18:52:54

I didn't know that, I always wondered why CBBC stopped at 7pm when many children up to age 10 or so are still awake.

BrianButterfield Tue 18-Mar-14 18:53:56

That's what iPlayer is for!

Kif Tue 18-Mar-14 18:54:38

Iplayer has all the mister maker you could want!

Don't mess with the sacred bedtime hour!

pussycatdoll Tue 18-Mar-14 18:55:00

It's because the BBC wants to control us & tell us when to put our kids to bed

LittleprincessinGOLDrocks Tue 18-Mar-14 18:55:09

I guess there are a few reasons. The first been they have the bedtime hour slot, which I have heard a few parents use it as part of their bedtime routine (not tried it myself though).
The second being the fact they use a lot of presenters, so they would either need to swap to back to back shows (repeats so they don't mess other schedualing) or get a full cast and crew to work the night shift.
Viewing figures between 7pm and 5am are likely to be low compared to daytime figures.
It is handy to be able to switch to CBeebies and show reluctant children that it is so late TV has gone to bed!
Also having the TV on can be too much stimulation when you are trying to settle a child.

But YWNBU to sky plus / BT vision or record a few of these shows to have on hand for such events.

normaleggy Tue 18-Mar-14 18:55:49


KatAndKit Tue 18-Mar-14 18:56:04

If you have sky plus or virgin just record some favourites. We have 20 Mr tumbles and 17 baby Jakes and a couple of itng ready for sickness emergencies.

LittleprincessinGOLDrocks Tue 18-Mar-14 18:56:22

Did not know that sagemist as my BT vision has them on very different channels.

KatAndKit Tue 18-Mar-14 18:57:40

And yes it is very handy having beebies end at 7. They all go to bed in that little song at the end so it is a nice start to bedtime routine.

youbethemummylion Tue 18-Mar-14 18:58:20

To bore the kids back to sleep after their calpol etc has been given?! I have never thought of letting them watch TV in the middle if the night just gave medicine/cuddles/back to bed or in with us if absolutely necessary.

HadABadDay2014 Tue 18-Mar-14 19:00:30

Don't mess around with the bedtime hour, my sister would never get DN to sleep. He watches 1 hour of tv a day and that's the bedtime hour.

whois Tue 18-Mar-14 19:09:43

Cos most kids are meant to be in bed???

Get yourself a DVD or record something, or iplayer something.

WandaDoff Tue 18-Mar-14 19:11:31

Disney Junior keeps going til at least midnight.

Threetofour Tue 18-Mar-14 19:13:59

Why the hell would you put any ill/teething kid in front of the tv at night??

EeeIcouldCrushAGrape Tue 18-Mar-14 19:17:22


This! grin
Cbeebies having a cut off time of 7pm was great - they used to do the bedtime story and song the song and say "night, night, see you tomorrow morning" and the little angels knew it must be bedtime as Cbeebies said so. smile
How the heck would they know or believe you if the blasted thing played all through the night?! grin

EeeIcouldCrushAGrape Tue 18-Mar-14 19:18:00

sing the song not song the song hmm

hazeyjane Tue 18-Mar-14 19:21:22

DVDs, iplayer, sky plus, other channels (Little Bear was always middle of the night last resort for dd's). I don't think cbeebies really need to be on overnight.

threetofour because sometimes it is a good way of distracting an ill child.

LetZygonsbeZygons Tue 18-Mar-14 19:22:19

that's why we have sky.
nothing appropriate apart from top gear on in early evenings, so Dc can watch Disney or something until her bedtime at 8-8.30, she winds down with the tv after dinner (and I can mn then!grin.

Sagemist is correct, they appear as separate channels but are part of the same transmission.

The BBC recently announced plans to axe BBC 3 and extend CBBC's hours. I think CBeebies would be better because toddlers have better excuses for being up at 3AM than older children.

80sMum Tue 18-Mar-14 19:29:33

You think you don't have enough TV? When mine were little, children's TV was only on for a few hours a day - and all TV closed down at 11.30pm!

littleducks Tue 18-Mar-14 19:34:40


I used to record bedtime hour and put it on the next day an hour early, when dh worked abroad!

LetZygonsbeZygons Tue 18-Mar-14 19:39:00

80smum but back then evening tv was more family friendly wasn't it?

im from the days of playschool at 3 to magic roundabout at 5.40 and I remember we could sit and watch stuff after as a family.

LetZygonsbeZygons Tue 18-Mar-14 19:39:42

I don't think OP is saying it has to be on ALL night, just a couple of hours more till maybe 8-8.30 at LEAST.

ikeaismylocal Tue 18-Mar-14 19:41:24

I don't think children need to watch tv in the middle of the night, in my experience once we leave the bedroom children think it is morning. Tv would just make the situation worse.

When I can't sleep I don't get up and watch tv, I wouldn't want my kids to learn to do it.

CrohnicallyChanging Tue 18-Mar-14 19:44:06

Even my 17 month old daughter knows that after the goodnight song, cbeebies finishes and so it's bedtime. And she doesn't even watch it every night, maybe once or twice a week.

On a different note, you know how the first 20 minutes or so of the bedtime hour can change, but then it's always In The Night Garden? Apparently cbeebies tried to change ITNG too, but lots of angry parents wrote in and complained because their little darlings refused to believe it was bedtime as ITNG hadn't been on!

Lemonsole Tue 18-Mar-14 19:44:55

Recording the bedtime song is a great way to convince your toddler that it's bedtime at 6:15. Sometimes, needs must.

Threetofour Tue 18-Mar-14 19:45:51

Ikea that's exactly what I think.... I have 4 who have all had bouts of illness and it has never even occurred to me to put on the telly in the middle of the night

hazeyjane Tue 18-Mar-14 19:47:20

80smum but back then evening tv was more family friendly wasn't it?

Ooh I don't know I have clear memories of sitting on the sofa with my mum and dad watching The Sweeney when I was little and my asthma was bad!

daisy0chain Tue 18-Mar-14 19:49:57

I really don't think popping a kid in front of the TV at 2am when they are up teething is going to be the best way to get them to settle back down again. In fact, I think it would have the exact opposite affect.

daisy0chain Tue 18-Mar-14 19:50:15


LetZygonsbeZygons Tue 18-Mar-14 19:51:04

I remember variety shows like generation game, muppets, the monkees, happy days, type things.

DR who , Morecambe and wise etc etc.

I do remember mum with Corrie on but then the scandal was Deirdre barlows affair with mike and that was all, not like these days where eveyones at it (>puts half moon glasses back up nose and gets knitting needles out!)<

hazeyjane Tue 18-Mar-14 19:52:49

I sometimes watch TV in the night if I can't sleep or am ill, and have had times with all 3 dcs when they have watched TV in the night, it's never been a nightmare to get them back to bed afterwards, and it's not become an issue. Different strokes for different folks.

Monetbyhimself Tue 18-Mar-14 19:54:21

If a child is well enough to watch TV in the middle ofvthe night, then they're well enough to be asleep.

( it makes sense in my head at least [grin ] )

FlumpieWumpie Tue 18-Mar-14 20:00:32

The reason it finishes then is because it's bedtime!
I find it even more interesting that Cbeebies starts earlier than CBBC (thus assuming that slightly older children sleep longer - NO!).
Apparently (and according to a friend who is a teacher), even children in Year 3 (age 7-8) should be in bed latest 7.30pm.
Don't let them watch TV in the night. Put them to back to bed/sleep or read to them. (I'd have a quick whisky if couldn't get back to sleep/or in pain, but you can't give them that!).

Artandco Tue 18-Mar-14 20:02:22

I must be very mean. I wouldn't even let mine watch tv in the day when sick let alone at night. IMO if they are sick they need bed. So they get tucked into bed/ on sofa with duvet and book or two like they would before bed. And then they sleep. If they aren't that ill in the day they would just play like usual.

At night a sick child here gets water and brought into our bed. Up to actually be sick then back in bed with us and water. Temp taken and calpol given if needed

Mine would be ill daily for unlimited tv and treats

ouryve Tue 18-Mar-14 20:06:25

CBBC is only being extended by an hour. The proposal is for BBC1+1 to broadcast after 8pm.

Laughing at the idea of my year 3 boy being in bed by 7:30pm at the latest. He's already up at 5am, most days, as it is.

FlumpieWumpie Tue 18-Mar-14 20:14:29

ouryve... They are all different! It's the amount of sleep they are supposed to need, but again, I think (as adults) all different. We need lots here! My Year 3 boy is in bath/shower by 6.40pm. Reading school book to one of us by 7.10pm. In his bed and reading to himself (whatever he wants) by 7.40pm. Lights out latest 8pm. He usually wakes about 6.45/7pm. Which is perfect (though sometimes 5.30am if excited about the coming day!). Not so perfect IMO.

ouryve Tue 18-Mar-14 20:19:22

He has ASD, so we are slightly grateful for the fact that he does usually manage a 9 hour unbroken night. It's not great, but it could be a lot worse!

CrohnicallyChanging Tue 18-Mar-14 20:20:06

Ouryve, not sure if it applies to older children but I know toddler DD will be up early when she's actually overtired. If she hasn't had enough sleep in the previous 24 hours she will often wake around 6 instead of between 7 and 8. So it might be worth trying an earlier bedtime for him.

But I agree children are all different and if that sleep pattern works for both of you then keep with it!

CrohnicallyChanging Tue 18-Mar-14 20:20:47

X post, just read that he has ASD, they often do seem to need less sleep than NT children!

GiveTwoSheets Tue 18-Mar-14 20:24:01

I wish it ended earlier it does my nut in. I count down the seconds til i see that goodnight green screen.

DoJo Tue 18-Mar-14 20:27:40

Maybe it's because mine doesn't watch the 'bed time hour' so bedtime is just when we say it is. I do understand that people use it as a part of their routine, but assumed that they just switched it off rather than having to prove that the TV had gone to bed by demonstrating the lack of programming (might try this myself though, so that's good to know).
Having suffered with reflux and a run of bad coughs, both of which were improved by being upright, I have often brought my son downstairs in the night to make a nest on the sofa and prop him up so we can both get some sleep. If he's coughed so much he's thrown up and had to have a shower, or had reflux which has had him writhing in pain, then he's awake and in need of soothing regardless of whether he might be tired, so a bit of distraction with something is a godsend and it helps me go to sleep to have something to distract me from whatever position I find myself in once he's asleep.
iPlayer doesn't do it for me, as sod's law says the programme will finish just as one of us drifting, and the fact it suddenly stops is often enough to halt the process and ping him (although more often me) awake again. He cannot sleep in our bed (aside from the needing to be upright) - not sure why, as he used to, but now just writhes around and keeps us all awake, so downstairs on the sofa it is.
Looks like I'm in the minority though, so I suppose we will have to watch another few episodes of 'Nothing to Declare' tonight if he's up. He never wants to watch TV in the night, or even go downstairs when he isn't ill though, so hopefully we haven't ruined his life by doing it thus far...grin

hazeyjane Tue 18-Mar-14 20:33:37

DoJo - have spent many many nights sat up with ds propped up with reflux, you have my sympathy. It is grim. Would a dvd work - we had nights where Despicable Me seemed to be on a loop!

Kif Tue 18-Mar-14 21:09:51

Yuh - me too. I got through two seasons of west wing like that. Mister Maker is strictly for daytime. Post 7pm is grownup covered in sick eating dinner with one hand pacing the floor with whingey baby time.

hazeyjane Tue 18-Mar-14 21:17:24

Unfortunately nearly 4 year old ds not so keen on The West Wing!

Pobblewhohasnotoes Tue 18-Mar-14 21:23:16

Because of bed time hour! Then it's bath and bed. Just put something on catch up.

whitepuddingsupper Tue 18-Mar-14 21:27:54

If a child is well enough to watch TV in the middle ofvthe night, then they're well enough to be asleep

DVDs were a lifesaver when my toddler last had a D&V bug that started in the middle of the night, by the time she was cleaned up she was wide awake and sticking a film on calmed her down and eventually she dozed back off on the couch.

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