To think this mother is taking the proverbial?

(93 Posts)
adsy Mon 17-Mar-14 17:05:16

on a childcare site


About Me

Dedicated Mother of 3 and business professional requiring domestic support my working week can be anything from 9am – 17:30 or on occasions 20:00pm. Essentially supports within in these hours are crucial, along with household support so I am able to have quality time outside of work with the kids.
Personally we are a fun, loving family who enjoy having a laugh and good fun.

My Requirements

Registered Childminder Live In Nanny
Live Out Nanny After School Nanny
Au Pair

Hours Required
Monday – Fridays 14: 30 /15:00 – 19:30
Saturdays 10: 00 – 15:00 pm (possible evenings/ night childcare services)
Sundays (occasional) possibly evenings/ nights childcare services
Most school holidays the ideal candidate will not be required to work, however when required to do so the childcare service will be needed on a full-time basis.
Duties:
1. Childcare services
2. Preparing evening meals and Afro-Caribbean cuisines
3. Laundry – washing and ironing
4. General maintenance of the house keeping the house clean and tidy at all times
5. Weekly spring clean of entire 4/5 bedroom house
Provided:
- Modern en-suite accommodation (for free)
- Evening meal inclusive
- Weekly rate of £45 per week

Requirements:
- Natural home-maker
- Enhanced CRB certificate
- Food hygiene certificate
- Childcare qualification
- Ofsted Registered
- Minimum of 2 years Childcare experience
- Good time management skills

Really? £45 per week. is that acceptable?!!

adsy Mon 17-Mar-14 17:06:15

Oh, just notice it includes accommodation. Is that the going rate for an au pair type job then, though this seems more than most au pairs do ime.

5madthings Mon 17-Mar-14 17:07:51

Yanbu that is outrageous!

oldgrandmama Mon 17-Mar-14 17:08:23

Ha ha, surely a wind-up? WEEKLY SPRING CLEAN? Do me a favour, it's totally ridiculous even for a spoof ad!

RhondaJean Mon 17-Mar-14 17:09:18

Maybe theres a zero missing?

usualsuspectt Mon 17-Mar-14 17:10:20

Have they misses a 2 off?

CountessOfRule Mon 17-Mar-14 17:10:37

I think it's too many hours for an au pair - with the "spring" clean (I assume that's thorough clean, not just pushing the hoover occasionally, but not bleaching skirting boards either) it's pretty much full time.

I used to have a live-in job on terrible money, but there's only so much you can give as perks in lieu of pay. From memory at the time it couldn't take you lower than 80p/h under minimum wage.

So I think either it isn't an au pair job or it isn't legal pay.

CountessOfRule Mon 17-Mar-14 17:11:05

Bollocks. It isn't an au pair job and it doesn't pay enough.

usualsuspectt Mon 17-Mar-14 17:11:22

I think they have made mistake with the figure.

YouTheCat Mon 17-Mar-14 17:11:27

Even with the accommodation £45 a week is taking the piss.

CountessOfRule Mon 17-Mar-14 17:12:21

Did sums. It's minimum 30h/w so £5/h under minimum wage.

NurseyWursey Mon 17-Mar-14 17:12:44

What?!! Surely this isn't real. Please someone get in touch with them ha

�45 a week?

Surely no one will work that amount for that, even with accommodation. That's less than an au pair would get.

Bornin1984 Mon 17-Mar-14 17:13:35

doesn't want much for 45 quid does she

adsy Mon 17-Mar-14 17:14:19

And she wants qualified childcarer with Ofsted registration. Cheeky mare.
Shall we all apply and try to haggle the wages up to £46?
What do we all reckon the proper going rate should be? I'd say at least £250 per week if she wants qualified etc. Bear in mind this is the North West so not mega wages.

Ludways Mon 17-Mar-14 17:14:40

Dear me, that's appalling!

If someone is willing to do that they can come and work for me!!!

Bornin1984 Mon 17-Mar-14 17:15:28

Would an au pair be registered with offsted?

One thinks she won't have many applicants and will have to reconsider

usualsuspectt Mon 17-Mar-14 17:15:41

I think it should say £245

MamaPain Mon 17-Mar-14 17:15:47

Agree outrageous but can I pick up on the other point of what an earth if Afro-Caribbean cuisine?

There is regional African cuisine, same for the Caribbean. Anyone I know from either of these regions, DH would specify e.g. I want Jamaican food, not Afro-Caribbean.

Really strange phrase IMO.

Bornin1984 Mon 17-Mar-14 17:16:31

And only the evening meal inclusive!!!! Where's the money to buy rest of meals???

AlpacaLypse Mon 17-Mar-14 17:16:34

Is this the same demented loon mother woman whose previous au pair we talked out of the job and the house a couple of months ago? It's that £45 a week for not far off full time hours and including a lot of skivvying which rings bells.

adsy Mon 17-Mar-14 17:17:36

Oooh yes. I think it is. I assume her previous slave has left!

NinjaBunny Mon 17-Mar-14 17:18:46

Fuck!

Sounds like you'd be working from dawn to dusk.

House tidy at all times? With 3 children?

confused

Could she be from another planet??

Whoknowswhocares Mon 17-Mar-14 17:19:07

So she wants to pay way less than Job Seekers allowance for someone qualified and with at least 2 years experience??????

2 possibilities. Typo or deranged madwoman.

adsy Mon 17-Mar-14 17:19:50

Shall I message her and ask if it's a typo?

usualsuspectt Mon 17-Mar-14 17:20:42

Yes, message her.

fideline Mon 17-Mar-14 17:21:01

It might be the woman who posted on here, who was very keen to emphasis the 'free water' she provided as a perk for her 'nanny'

notapizzaeater Mon 17-Mar-14 17:21:42

Really ? Wonder if she's wondering why she's not got many applicants

fideline Mon 17-Mar-14 17:21:51

oops sorry, screen froze

fideline Mon 17-Mar-14 17:22:11

*emphasise

Bornin1984 Mon 17-Mar-14 17:22:36

Oooooooh i remember free water-gate!!!

adsy Mon 17-Mar-14 17:25:50

OK, sent her this

HI Antoinette.
I think you have made a typo as you have put £45 for the week and you might wonder why you get no replies!!

let's see if she replies.
Surely must be a mistake but if it's the same woman as last time that was the genuine wage!

Nanny0gg Mon 17-Mar-14 17:29:24

So she wants a full-time nanny, a full time housekeeper/cook/cleaner and possible chauffer depending on the children's needs?

With being on-call at possible short notice by the look of it.

She's 'avin a larf...

ThePinkOcelot Mon 17-Mar-14 17:44:31

That is a bloody ridiculous. Stick a brush up your arse and sweep the floor as you go along!!

bootsycollins Mon 17-Mar-14 17:49:48

I've never said this but shamelessly marking my place grin

PedantMarina Mon 17-Mar-14 17:52:21

Yeah, I want to see what happens....

Cat98 Mon 17-Mar-14 17:53:21

Me too bootsy. Bloody hell! How cheeky.

Bornin1984 Mon 17-Mar-14 17:53:59

Should we apply? Im in the north west

HemlockStarglimmer Mon 17-Mar-14 17:54:17

She wants a 'mother's help' or possibly a housekeeper who just happens to be a qualified nanny.

And I really hope £45 per week is a typo!

adsy Mon 17-Mar-14 17:55:50

No reply yet.
While we're waiting, tell me about you worst paid / crappy jobs

bloob Mon 17-Mar-14 17:56:04

It's very low, but it does say not required in the holidays but I assume the pay / board etc continues? Which means its not as bad...

Could be clutching at straws here!!

Bornin1984 Mon 17-Mar-14 17:57:32

Could u imagine ...... Free water and evening meal...... Does that mean ur so busy u won't have time for breakast or lunch

I was paid a similar sum as an au pair, although for fewer hours and I had no qualifications.

To be fair this was in 1991

Callani Mon 17-Mar-14 17:58:10

Let us know what she says OP!

It's a very low wage for all that work. I reckon she's going to reply that it's the right amount

Oh and the family I worked for's neighbours thought Madame was taking the piss. TWENTY THREE YEARS AGO!

expatinscotland Mon 17-Mar-14 18:00:39

Below min wage. Should be illegal.

ONE meal?! And you have another £45/week to feed yourself, excluding clothing and transport should you want to go anywhere.

Electryone Mon 17-Mar-14 18:02:26

I to think shes going to reply all shocked "of course thats the wage I mean".

Pheonixisrising Mon 17-Mar-14 18:03:44

this should be interesting ......................

NunsArePeopleTooDougal Mon 17-Mar-14 18:09:36

So thirty hours a week for £45, that's £1.50 an hour. Even with the board and one (one!) meal, that's still about £5 below minimum wage. I'm not sure how she can justify that, but she'll probably try to...

OscarWinningActress Mon 17-Mar-14 18:14:07

I'm a SAHM...this sounds alarmingly like my life grin. She would need to marry someone that's happy to do all that for love, not hire someone confused.

Innermagic Mon 17-Mar-14 18:17:33

I wo

MamaPain Mon 17-Mar-14 18:30:39

Ask her to define Afro-Caribbean food as well!

Bornin1984 Mon 17-Mar-14 22:00:56

Any update?

whattoWHO Mon 17-Mar-14 22:07:22

I wonder if the school holidays will be paid?

CannyBagOfTudor Mon 17-Mar-14 22:11:12

A similarish story, though not quite the sanme...

When I was 18 years old (1996) with no childcare experience at all I answered an advert for a cleaner.

The lady on the phone said she'd already found a cleaner but thought I sounded ever so nice and would I like to do some babysitting and light cleaning day to day.

Most of the time this involved playing with the baby and doing things like folding her husband's clothes (which he left in a pile on the floor) and taking him cups of tea in bed hmm

She wanted to go on a business trip to Germany with her DH so gave me £100 to look after her 8 month old baby for a week.

So I - a random 18 year old with no childcare experience, no qualifications, and no CRB (ok, no convictions, but she had no way of knowing that) - was left in charge of her house and her 8 month old.

I was already living in a house I was paying rent on, so there was no big plus to a weeks rent-free living.

VoyageDeVerity Mon 17-Mar-14 22:13:42

She wants a slave

NurseyWursey Mon 17-Mar-14 22:13:45

It's a shame because someone might actually go for this because they're desperate.

Redcliff Mon 17-Mar-14 22:22:46

This seems very odd - would love to get a service like this for £45 s week but would never be such a knob to post an ad like this .

elliebe13 Mon 17-Mar-14 22:29:50

The fact that I could afford to pay somebody £45 a week to do all that and I myself am on minimum wage says enough!!!

Ohwhatfuckeryisthis Mon 17-Mar-14 22:39:55

I thought it was for four separate jobs! Even at £245 a week for all that shite I'd be a bit confused. When, pray tell does she have this quality family time as she seems to be working and/or having the lucky applicant do everything?

sparechange Tue 18-Mar-14 12:26:13

I wonder if she's up for the 'I'm the most evil slave owning cunt in the world' award hmm

I have all kinds of hate for that particular brand of evil

TillyTellTale Tue 18-Mar-14 13:00:25

is that an old ad? I'm sure I recognise it.

TillyTellTale Tue 18-Mar-14 13:01:10

Strike that, I do. Sparechange linked to the last thread.

zirca Tue 18-Mar-14 13:03:56

I thought the going rate was £100 per week + accommodation and food for an au pair? And an au pair wouldn't have all those qualifications...

rollonthesummer Tue 18-Mar-14 13:09:31

Erm, have you seen this thread from 2011?www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1192279-To-think-this-is-slave-labour/AllOnOnePage V strange

That's odd??

pizzachickenhotforyou Tue 18-Mar-14 13:17:17

The doles 57 a week & housing benefit might cover your accommodation!
Plus that's a lot of work! It'd be completely different to looking after your own house/kids as she probably runs a white glove along the surfaces.
£45!! You only get your evening meal too so it'll not go far at all.

adsy Tue 18-Mar-14 13:26:33

Odd. I wonder if her last slave left and she just reposted her old ad?
Maybe she,s been using the same ad for 30 years and that explains the pay offer!

PedantMarina Tue 18-Mar-14 13:54:01

Surely she'd be advertising in guineas then?

Or shillings, given what a tightwad she seems...

kerala Tue 18-Mar-14 14:03:26

My word. I got £30 per day for childcare as an unqualified 18 year old in 1996! That said it was 3 kids (6,4 and1) who lived in the middle of nowhere strictly no tv. My instructions were 9 hours of "creative play" <shudders at the horrific memories triggered> . This experience very nearly put me off having kids of my own. The eldest now in prison for drug dealing (and they were a naice middle class hippyish family)

How odd, word for word!

Any response yet OP?

merrymouse Tue 18-Mar-14 14:20:37

I was paid 500 francs a week (so roughly £50) in Paris as an au pair in 1994.

Odd that the ad is the same.

HemlockStarglimmer Tue 18-Mar-14 14:52:38

When I was 17 I had a summer job as a waitress (140 miles away from my home). Free board and lodging for six weeks and 64p an hour for waitressing.

One day the owner asked me to babysit her eight year old for the afternoon/evening until her older son got home. So I did. I was paid a £1. Not £1 per hour but £1 for seven hours.

Even for 1979 that was miserly.

YouTheCat Tue 18-Mar-14 15:08:59

Kerala, they should have let the poor sods watch some tv maybe they wouldn't have turned to drugs. grin

adsy Tue 18-Mar-14 16:09:03

sorry all, she's not even opened my message yet

I wonder if she works in education if she doesn't need holiday cover? Or maybe she has another slave for that?

CloverHeart Tue 18-Mar-14 16:32:47

Well what a miserable job that sounds. I wouldn't even do it for £250 a week, sounds like a fucking nightmare

kerala Tue 18-Mar-14 18:45:41

They weren't allowed sugar either just quinoa and broccoli. It's a cautionary tale honestly - obligatory creative play + no sugar or wheat + no tv + isolated country living equals your kid turning to drugs as soon as they are able

YouTheCat Tue 18-Mar-14 19:08:59

Nightmare.

I was brought up on sugar and white bread, with plenty of tv and creative play only when I was feeling creative. I haven't turned to drugs. grin

Chippednailvarnish Tue 18-Mar-14 19:15:06

I remember a thread similar to this not too long ago. There were a number of people claiming that it was acceptable as a live in position doesn't have to pay minimum wage. And my personal favourite "it would suit an immigrant".

Then the person who posted the advert started posting and eventually the thread was deleted.

There are some total bastards out there, I find some peoples attitudes very depressing.

eddielizzard Tue 18-Mar-14 19:20:17

sorry but that's shocking. i really hope no-one applies.

Roshbegosh Tue 18-Mar-14 19:25:03

Maybe there is someone out there willing to be exploited so cruelly, but I hope not. It is depressing that people can be so barbaric.

wowfudge Tue 18-Mar-14 19:25:16

Apart from the outrageousness of it - do you think the Afro-Caribbean cuisine thing is a way of trying to get someone Afro-Caribbean without stating that outright in the ad, which is likely to be illegal? I'm not sure about the anti-discrimination laws on working in someone's home.

oldgrandmama Tue 18-Mar-14 20:33:21

Wonder what her last slave died of????

VeryStressedMum Tue 18-Mar-14 20:44:02

What is the going rate for an aupair? Do you count in the accommodation cost ie the room with ensuite would cost roughly 100 per week do they are in effect earning 145? And what do aupairs do? Not that I'm looking to hire one or become one, just interested.

YouTheCat Tue 18-Mar-14 21:12:54

Even if it was £145 a week it'd still be less than minimum wage.

sleeperinsouthlondon Tue 18-Mar-14 21:15:15

Wow I have seen plenty of childcare adverts (employer and jobseeker) specifiying 'muslim' recently. maybe there is an exemption for domicillary childcare?

bochead Tue 18-Mar-14 21:35:24

Afro-Caribbean cooking?

I think that was a blatent attempt to lure an newly arrived & desperate illegal immigrant into her nefarious employ without raising the alarm with the authorities. (non-white and from a non-EU country makes them just that bit more vulnerable to outright exploitation by the unscrupulous!)

Either that or she's a lovely, scatty, sleep deprived sweety who meant £450 really, but simply forgot to proofread her ad, and would love to try some of that rice dish she had on hols last year, but can't remember the name of to google the recipe.

tillyann2013 Tue 18-Mar-14 21:52:47

Afro Caribbean ? Weird

sleeperinsouthlondon Tue 18-Mar-14 22:07:47

Boc More likely that the family is of AC origin, isn't it?

TwittyMcTwitterson Tue 18-Mar-14 22:27:11

The woman isn't even sure how many bedrooms she has.

It's entirely plausible she missed a digit on the wage... wink

gringringrin

Pooka Tue 18-Mar-14 22:35:53

Do you thunk this is like a sting operation? A trap for unwary people desperate enough to work like a slave because there's no other option. Turns out to be a front for some body like the home office?

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