To wonder why creosote tans, blinding white teeth, false eyelashes and BIG hair....

(223 Posts)
lazyhound444 Fri 28-Feb-14 14:57:14

became the norm? I appreciate that not all young ladies adopt this look (my own DD being one of them) but I couldn't help feeling a bit confused skiffing through my DS's Instagram last night at the endless duck face pout selfies of young ladies he goes to school with who all look exactly the same because of this current "uniform". It just made me feel a bit depressed. I'm 48 but when I was young we had a bit more diversity and of course we were au naturel. AIBU?

I want to know why you have to have long hair now. All the teen girls on DS1's FB seem to have manes of hair.

sonlypuppyfat Fri 28-Feb-14 15:00:34

This is exactly what I think when I was at school girls at least tried to be individual, not now though bloody sheep all of them. All of them have the birds nest hair and pouty vacant expression.

DomesticDisgrace Fri 28-Feb-14 15:01:19

It's just like anything, it's a "current trend"

sisterofmine Fri 28-Feb-14 15:03:24

i think the superbright tooth veneers a la Britney/Jordan will date very soon. they look so plastic. plus what will they look like when they are wrinkly with teeth like that!!!

bibliomania Fri 28-Feb-14 15:03:57

A bit younger than you, OP, but I remember the bubble perms of my youth.

I agree that the tyranny of a certain look is probably worse now than it was, but I think you'll always have it to a certain extent. Adolescence is a time when you're so unsure of yourself, of course you want to align yourself with a certain accepted look. Probably stating the obvious, but it doesn't mean it's not true.

Why do the do the duck face pout and the 'Peace sign' sideways? What does that mean?

Mintyy Fri 28-Feb-14 15:05:34

It depends on where you live. I see almost none of that round here.

FoxesRevenge Fri 28-Feb-14 15:07:19

I call it the 'porn' look. It's bloody awful.

At DS1's school all the girls out of school you seen fully dressed in jeans and sweatshirts virtually make up free. His school is 12 miles away.

Locally, they tend to be quite made up. V strange.

WorraLiberty Fri 28-Feb-14 15:08:07

Every generation of teenagers think they look the dog's bollocks and the generation above will mostly disagree.

That's life.

I hate to channel my Mum but I am sure 14 year old girls didn't look 25 in my day.

sonlypuppyfat Fri 28-Feb-14 15:09:30

My DD has got long hair but hers is just natural and straight,absolutly bloody beautiful it is too all different shades of blonde.

WowserBowser Fri 28-Feb-14 15:10:58

It's such a boring look. No individuality.

Bunbaker Fri 28-Feb-14 15:13:17

"At DS1's school all the girls out of school you seen fully dressed in jeans and sweatshirts virtually make up free. His school is 12 miles away."

DD is in year 9. Virtually none of the girls in her year would go round looking like that. Most of them wear far too much make up, have the just got out of bed tousled hair look and all their FB photos feature duck pouts.

At lunchtime most of the girls sit with their make up bags and plaster even more make up on their over made up faces.

lazyhound444 Fri 28-Feb-14 15:14:28

Agree that the veneers are probably the biggest problem I have with this current look. They're so false and weird looking.

CaptainHindsight Fri 28-Feb-14 15:15:33

Teenage fashion is always a source of hilarity/despair for grown ups.

When I was a teen we were all emo/scene kids with side fringes and turquoise highlights moaning the the uk didn't have Hot Topic.

I like white teeth though. Nice to see good dental hygiene in yoof.

lazyhound444 Fri 28-Feb-14 15:16:19

Sparklingbrook the peace sign sideways does my head in too. No idea what it means but it looks bloody stupid.

Laquitar Fri 28-Feb-14 15:16:24

The perm wasn't very individual either. Or the blue mascara.

summertimeandthelivingiseasy Fri 28-Feb-14 15:18:23

The painted-on eyebrow look leaves me puzzled confused

lazyhound444 Fri 28-Feb-14 15:18:31

Laquitar. Agreed. I recall this look vividly. Enough to know that nobody suits a bubble perm and electric blue mascara. Thank God there was no social network sites to capture the evidence in those days!

I wondered if it was the 'scissors' sign lazy? confused

I have boy children, so can look at all this with attached bemusement. Until one of these long haired, perma tanned, wow browed lovelies comes to call......

I am hoping more for a jeans and sweatshirt/no make up type for DS1.

DustyBaubles Fri 28-Feb-14 15:21:50

Someone turned up where I work the other day with her hair in one of those weird giant buns, like one of the two drug smugglers a while ago.

Now that is a style I can't figure out at all.

FoxesRevenge Fri 28-Feb-14 15:25:06

Tina from Corrie is a perfect example of this.

I saw them do one of those on the telly Dusty. Under the hair is some sort of spongy mesh thing. confused

AngelaDaviesHair Fri 28-Feb-14 15:33:07

nobody suits a bubble perm and electric blue mascara

I'll have you know I looked magnificent in my Jheri curl perm and blue mascara. Like Steadman and the pouty girl from 5 Star, only better.

Sleepyfergus Fri 28-Feb-14 15:34:44

I work with women (30yo +) like this. Prior to our xmas team lunch, they rushed to the loos and came out with massive hair, heavily mascara laden eyes, bronzed within an inch of their lives and did all the pouty stuff in photos.

I find it a bit weird. They look a bit like plastic wags but would be horrified if anyone said that to them.

lazyhound444 Fri 28-Feb-14 15:35:17

I'm sure you did Angela. However, I have no doubt that you look so much more magnificent without it! smile

Laquitar Fri 28-Feb-14 15:35:21

Ha yes! Imagine if we had facebook those days to post our new perm!

brighteyedbusytailed Fri 28-Feb-14 15:36:20

teenagers have veneers? do they live in chelsea?

Half the teenagers round here have braces. Ruins the pout somewhat. grin

lazyhound444 Fri 28-Feb-14 15:38:51

I started the thread party because of the Instagram photos that had me really hmm but also because my DD was attending a senior school dance a few weeks ago. Her friends came round to get ready and when they left they all looked fabulous and every one was individual and differnet looking. Checking her photos of the event however was just depressing as the rest of the girls there looked like clones. It concerns me that young men find this attractive and are bypassing all these independent thinkers. Maybe I'm reading too much into this! blush

YouTheCat Fri 28-Feb-14 15:41:20

There's a mural painted on an underpass in Sunderland. It depicts people of all colours and even includes a lovely orange one, complete with exposed thong top. grin

Melonbreath Fri 28-Feb-14 15:43:13

My mum has read this over my shoulder. Although she agrees its ridiculous she points out at least they're making an effort with their appearances however misguided.

This is because in my school days my chums and I followed the grunge (what she calls tramp look) look. She doesn't get it was STILL an effort to wear a nirvana t shirt under my dad's old ripped jumpers, panda my eyes and tippex my DMs. My tights didn't artfully ladder themselves, it took ages with a carefully bitten nail. And cost a fortune to replace every time!


I can't believe in urban outfitters you can buy jumpers ready grunged. At £50.

WorraLiberty Fri 28-Feb-14 15:44:31

Yes I think you're reading far too much into it to say you find it 'depressing'.

I just find it mildly amusing...just like my Mum found my teen style mildly amusing and I'm sure my Gran thought the same about hers.

If I got an approving look from my Mum before I went clubbing, I would have been tempted to go and change straight away grin

JammyPodger Fri 28-Feb-14 15:44:44

I don't understand the huge bun on top of head look. Hideous. A few of my friends do it though so can't say anything.

lazyhound444 Fri 28-Feb-14 15:46:13

I'd forgotten about the donut bun look. It's horrific.

CaptainHindsight Fri 28-Feb-14 15:47:26

"If I got an approving look from my Mum before I went clubbing, I would have been tempted to go and change straight away"

Worra grin

I used to put more "modest" tops over my actual outfit before discarding in the back garden after I had left the house.

My DF used to nod approvingly...if only he knew.

AngelaDaviesHair Fri 28-Feb-14 15:48:50

Oh lazy, you silver-tongued charmer, you!

learnasyougo Fri 28-Feb-14 15:51:54

it will date. just as perms, flicked hair date those who were teens in the 80s or 70s. the conformism is nothing new, nor is it worse now than when you were young, just that back then you were 'in it' and could see the diversity among your peers that you can't see new as an outsider. There are still a variety 'types' out there, each with their own uniform, and a few individuals here and there who don't conform. shall be ever thus.

Burma Fri 28-Feb-14 15:52:52

Oh it is our job as 48 year olds to be horrified by teens - they wouldn't be happy if we weren't outraged would they grin!

I was an avid Siouxie and The Banshees devotee and my parents' thought I'd turned into satan back when I was 16 and here I am now listening to The Archers and baking cakes for tea so I don't worry overly.

Burma Fri 28-Feb-14 15:53:55

Yes and had a perm too with a ghastly fringe and blue eyeliner! Thank god there was no FB back then...

TheBookofRuth Fri 28-Feb-14 15:56:00

I was just thinking this morning that young women do strange things to their eyebrows these days, having passed several in half an hour with very thick, dark, heavily penciled ones. Then I remembered that in my teens and early 20s I and all my friends plucked ours to oblivion, so was hardly in a position to criticise.

Virtually no brows, lashings of thick black mascara and piles and piles of loose face powder (constantly reapplied as no one would be seen dead with even a hint of a shiny t-zone). No blusher and either clear lip gloss or very dark purpley lipstick. Hair was either very long and very straight, or very short - a few of us, me included, had a pixie cut a la Winona Ryder.

We must have looked as odd to grown women as young girls do to me now, but none of us would've considered doing anything differently.

lazyhound444 Fri 28-Feb-14 15:57:00

Ladies, you've made me feel so much better. Love the different perspectives and the realisiation that it twas ever thus. Thanks!

babyheaves Fri 28-Feb-14 15:57:37

I'm sure that the cottage loaf giant hair but will date soon, but it amuses me.

No one looks good with painted of eyebrows. Ever.

lazyhound444 Fri 28-Feb-14 15:58:48

...oh and I had the Annie Lennox/Winona crop going on. Thought I was the mutt's nuts but photographic evidence may challenge this assertion.

ChubbyKitty Fri 28-Feb-14 15:58:59

Captain we must be around the same age! Sometimes I still rock the emo fringe and gunshot wound back-combed monstrosity although it's a sensible shade of blonde now grin

Still have the holes for my snakebites too. I was clearly epic, because my lip rings were rainbow metal. wink

I hope this orange duck thing passes soon. I get some right funny looks when I'm out and about for not partaking.

LadyBeagleEyes Fri 28-Feb-14 15:59:22

It's not just teens though is it. It's the TOWIE look which so many women follow like sheep.

TheBookofRuth Fri 28-Feb-14 16:00:13

Ha, Melonbreath - I had to hide my carefully distressed DMs from my grandad, because every time he saw them he'd take them away and polish them to a gleaming shine! "They're good boots, them", he'd say. "Last you years if you look after them."

At the time it infuriated me. Remembering it now brings a tear to my eye to think of him lovingly cleaning and polishing them for me.

TheZeeTeam Fri 28-Feb-14 16:02:30

Are teenagers in Britain getting veneers?!! Why?!! Why not just get good braces and a good oral hygienist?!!

Sightoabloodyscream Fri 28-Feb-14 16:05:51

It's the fake eyelashes that get me. For me, false eyelashes are for a special occasion. Last weekend we so some so long, thick and stiff that evn dh noticed - and he never notices women's makeup. He was fascinated.

We call it the Scouse look round here: Orange skin, v blonde hair, scousebrows and fake lashes.

I wear the big bun thng - but not scraped back. I kind of pin non-straightened hair around and in it to make a sort of messy bun. Am eternally jealous of kids these days who had hair straighteners before the age of 25, though. Oh how different my teenage years would have been!

CaptainHindsight Fri 28-Feb-14 16:05:58

Kitty grin My DH had snakebites when I met him. I thought they were so cool.

We invented the selfie! Looking away from the camera all moody and emotional. Stripy neon socks with battered converse and cartoon tee-shirts.


ButternutSquish Fri 28-Feb-14 16:08:37

I asked a friend about the sideways peace sign, and apparently it's something about copying the Japanese that do this in all their photos....who knew!?

Sightoabloodyscream Fri 28-Feb-14 16:11:08

Bookofruth yes! I was a proper grown up before I started using blusher; it had been that instilled into me that blusher just wasn't to be worn! I was amazed at the difference it made - and by the difference wearing a lipstick that actually suited me made.

I definitely look better (if more knackered) in my 30s than in my late teens/early twenties.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe Fri 28-Feb-14 16:13:57

I think that 'sideways V' thing is from 'Pulp Fiction' (Mia Wallace). They think it looks cool so they do it.

Burma Fri 28-Feb-14 16:14:55

I tell you what does make me sad though and that is younger children covered in make-up, straightening their hair and wearing inappropriate clothing.

A friend of mine put up some pictures of her daughter on FB the other day, the girl is stunning but was dolled up to the nines and she is only 11 years old, now that definitely makes me shake my head sad.

juneau Fri 28-Feb-14 16:15:12

YANBU OP. I live next door to a secondary school so I get to see the parade twice a day - huge dark hair dos, orange skin, fake lashes, tons of make-up, pale lips and brainless, pouting expression, and very short skirt (regardless of body shape). I call it the TOWIE effect.

CalamitouslyWrong Fri 28-Feb-14 16:16:01

We've got a wall of student photos in our office. c. 80% of the girls are doing the duck face thing. It looks really strange. It's the photos taken for their student card, which will have been taken in the middle of the library with a large queue behind them. I'm not sure how they managed it actually. I just look confused in my staff photo.

I'm not sure me and my friends looked any more diverse when we were teenagers though. Different to what current fashion is, but we call owned the same pair of Adidas trainers and carpenter jeans with flares.

morethanpotatoprints Fri 28-Feb-14 16:16:20

We call them oompah lumpas round here.

All orange skin, scraped back hair.

I am so glad that my dd has decided to be an individual, she is only 10 but doesn't follow the crowd with her behaviour or look.
I'd like to think I had some part in it as I was never a sheep either and as a family we lead an unconventional lifestyle.
But the confidence to be able to be like this obviously comes from her.

The bun on the head thing is no worse than the giant pineapple on our heads we wore in the 80's.

Scrunchie - check

Back of head really tight with hair on a ponytail at the very top - check

Diana eyeliner and mascara - check

Sun In 'highlights' - check

Neon - I once went out the house in an acid yellow shirt, acid orange coat, and a red beret shock

AngelaDaviesHair Fri 28-Feb-14 16:18:55

Frosted pink lipstick and rara skirts anyone? Pixie boots?

My sister did the full Disco New Romantic fusion with head band, purple ruffled shirt, purple pedal pushers, gold shoes and -piece de resistance-gold lipstick! No pictures of that, sadly.

And I remember school friends taking hours over dying just the right blond patch in their giant quiffs/flick fringes. Not to mention agonising over whether it was ok to fancy a boy who was a-whisper it-^casual^.

We all looked utterly vile, in style terms, but also beautiful, because we were young. 'Twas ever thus.

sweetkitty Fri 28-Feb-14 16:24:05

My 20 year old niece is a TOWIE wannabe, nearly white blonde hair with to her waist with extensions showing, half a tonne of make up, fake eyelashes, orange skin including stained handshmm

Her latest thing is she's getting a boob job for her 21st shock now every time I see her she's spilling out of tops, she's not a skinny girl probably about a 14 but apparently her boons are fake and not nice so she's getting real fake ones instead.

I wonder what the next trend will be?

LolaDontCryOnDogTails Fri 28-Feb-14 16:25:09

Never fails to make me laugh how many mumsnetters kids are the individual, forward thinking ones ��

I want one of you to admit to having a back combed made up daughter.

Or realise that your kid looks Exactly like their mates do.

Go on just one........

Sparklysilversequins Fri 28-Feb-14 16:26:03

I remember sailing down the stairs with bleached back combed to within an inch of its life blonde hair (see Madonna circa 1987) artfully ripped jeans (one across the knee, one across the arse cheek and one across my hip) and mascara and eye liner so heavy I could hardly hold my head up. My Dad looked at me like shock then turned to face the TV silently having obviously been warned by my Mum to say nothing! grin

I think the girls today look rather stunning for the most part, we didn't, we just thought we did.

Sparklysilversequins Fri 28-Feb-14 16:26:49

I always think that too Lola, no sheep kids on MN wink

AngelaDaviesHair Fri 28-Feb-14 16:27:15

My Dd is only tiny. She is middle-class scruff from Central Casting though. I admit it.

CalamitouslyWrong Fri 28-Feb-14 16:27:16

My teenager (a boy) doesn't look in any way fashionable. But I'd imagine he looks quite a lot like his (similarly) unfashionable mates. I think he's hoping the grunge look will come back in.

Bunbaker Fri 28-Feb-14 16:32:03

DD isn't at all "cool". She never will be. She is too much of an introvert. She isn't geeky, but she doesn't fit in the the "goldfish army" as she and her friends used to call them because she doesn't look the part.

She is interested in clothes but as a late developer she doesn't do the tight fitting tops, crop tops etc. She is very slim and looks great in skinny jeans though, but just wears a loose fitting T-shirt with them.

She does wear make up but looks like she isn't. She hates the fake look as much as I do. Interestingly most of the over made up girls have mothers who also wear heavy make up so perhaps they take their cue from their mums.

morethanpotatoprints Fri 28-Feb-14 16:34:01


What's wrong with being individual, not everyone wants to follow everyone else and enjoys being different.

Anonymai Fri 28-Feb-14 16:35:44

It's just a trend. When I'd just left college it was emo that was the big thing. Black hair, shitty extensions with colour streaks in, lip rings, chest pieces on the older ones. This trend just gets more exposure because of t'internet.

maggiemight Fri 28-Feb-14 16:35:55

OMG the white teeth on tv is just ridiculous.

If you look at someone you look at their eyes, the window of their soul, but not if they've got blinding tombstones for teeth.

So you glance at the face and instead of your brain doing it's usual 'I like' or 'what are they saying' it says 'OMG what's that' then you have to disengage from the teeth and tell yourself to listen to what they are saying. Madness.

sweetkitty Fri 28-Feb-14 16:37:07

DD1 is only 9 but I can tell she's already coveting DNieces "look"
DD2 is a tomboy and has her own style already

DD3 is only 5 grin

figgypuddings Fri 28-Feb-14 16:38:56

Young men these days seem to favour that caught-in-a-wind-tunnel look where the hair is swept forward unnaturally. <gimmer>

It's the fashion.
In my day it was Madonna circa Like A Virgin look. For 3 years I couldn't get a brush through my hair. The half a can of Elnett won every time.
My make up was blue eyeliner & mascara, pink and gold eyeshadow and the obligatory twilight teaser.
Bless them, they are beautiful to their peers which is all they need to be.
Good luck to them I say smile

NewtRipley Fri 28-Feb-14 16:39:52

I think the look is porny and that's what's upsetting about it. I think that there have always been tribes of teen girls but it's the genesis of this look that's the problem.

I used to wear fishnets, short short skirts/shorts crop tops with net vest. All that was missing was the whip and subscription to Teen Dom Weekly.
I used to hang out on street corners too grin
Nowadays, I look like every other mid 40s woman nice and safe in Boden White Stuff.

YouTheCat Fri 28-Feb-14 16:46:14

It's the beards that get me. So many young lads with god awful beards that make them look like Edward VII. grin

What makes me sad is a bunch of year 1s I was talking to this week. I happened to say there was nothing wrong with being different and they all exclaimed in horror at the thought. sad

usualsuspect33 Fri 28-Feb-14 16:52:25

Teenagers always have a tribe.

Even the ones who think they look 'different'

YouTheCat Fri 28-Feb-14 16:53:57

Not all teens have a tribe.

usualsuspect33 Fri 28-Feb-14 16:55:37

Yeah they do.

Goths and emos and geeks and hipsters.

It was ever thus.

Anonymai Fri 28-Feb-14 16:56:35

Even the ones who make a point about not caring care. That's their tribe.

My friend says her teen DD calls the girls described as 'plastics'.

Sidge Fri 28-Feb-14 16:57:33

It's the HD eyebrows that make me go hmm

They're like deeply stained slugs perched above one's eye.

The only thing that should be seen in HD is Bradley Cooper.

YouTheCat Fri 28-Feb-14 16:59:34

But what if you don't belong to one of those groups? My dd never has. She's just herself, wears what she wants to, sometimes wears make up. Her friends are pretty much the same. They all shop at different places and none of them seem to copy any specific 'look'.

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 28-Feb-14 16:59:54

I used to fashion sort of forward-poking quiff, and spraaaaaaaaayy it to death sorry ozone layer. Mousse was involved also. The look I was aiming for was baseball cap bit/visor, but made of hair. SO did most fo my friends.

There were other tribes, of course. Goths, metallers, the geeky ones. People are inherently tribal, aren't they? Even the non-conformists.

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 28-Feb-14 17:00:39

Ah, very slow cross post re tribes.

Why don't teens have as bad acne as my lot did? What has changed?

Tribes of my youth.

Disco chick - see previous personal description, especially twilight teaser, that was essential.
Goth chick - purple/black crimped hair, black, black, black everything a la Siouxie
Sporty chick - Sensible hair and Adidas.
Post punk chick - Think Annie Lennox/Chrissie Hynd
Yah chick - Headbands, pearls and Barbour. Channeling young Princess Di.

Anonymai Fri 28-Feb-14 17:01:45

That's a tribe in itself you. The non conformists.

Also New Romantic Chick. I prefer not to remember THAT phase confused

KarinMurphy Fri 28-Feb-14 17:06:12

My older son has this horrible swept forward hair and nasty beard thing going on. His girlfriend seems to like it though.

The younger one, who's 17, is distinctly odd. He's got very long ringlets and dresses in a mix of steampunk and early 60's psychedelic. Velvet jackets, flowing coats, frilly shirts, long boots, that kind of thing. He has Aspergers and is wildly camp so can carry it off.

squoosh Fri 28-Feb-14 17:06:30

When someone goes for the hair extension, lash extension, nail extension look it's hard to tell what age they are, most of them don't look like teens.

In general, no matter what tribe they belong to, teens these days do seem to have a much more high maintenance look. The 90s was much more lo fi.

Ludways Fri 28-Feb-14 17:06:54

It's the duckpout thing that makes me laugh, what the absolute fk do they think they look like? My 80's photos make my kids laugh like drains, wait till they have kids of their own and how they'll cringe at old photos.
My dd is 8, I'm hoping this stupid look is out before she gets to teenager.
I particularly like it when a 40+ woman does the duckpout, I'm 40+ so I can say that! lol

squoosh Fri 28-Feb-14 17:08:11

My friends and I all wore Levi 501s, Levi hoodies with Adidas gazelle trainers. Makeup consisted of Body shop face base and body shop kiwi lip balm.

AngelaDaviesHair Fri 28-Feb-14 17:08:20

I was modelling myself on Pauline Black from The Selecter for quite a while.

Karin, he sounds fantastic. I love that fashion. If I were a teen I'd be aspiring to that. Sadly DS is Jack Wills dudehmm

MalcolmTuckersMistress Fri 28-Feb-14 17:09:02

I think they all look like Boy George!

Ludways Fri 28-Feb-14 17:09:10

Incidentally my step dd isn't like this, she's more of a rock chick and laughs at the back combed hair, tangoed thing. Mind you, she must go through an eyeliner every 3 days!

Squoosh, in the 80s, getting ready to go out could take 3 hrs start to finish. You could have peeled the slap straight off my face. Hair alone took 90 mins.
Then there was outfit selection...

Pigsmummy Fri 28-Feb-14 17:12:41

All the girls here look like Billy offa Eastenders granddaughter. We had shocking wind recently and I think it might have been them all collectively blinking that caused it.

usualsuspect33 Fri 28-Feb-14 17:12:46

I belonged to the Hippy tribe, I was all loon pants and cheesecloth. With black kohl around my eyes. Stinking of patchouli.

The other tribes were , Grebos and Townies.

DuckworthLewis Fri 28-Feb-14 17:12:58

The vacant expression and peace sign is part of the (IMO disturbing) Kawaii trend from Japan.

I hate it tbh, it is perilously close to the sexualisation of very young girls.

MrsBungle Fri 28-Feb-14 17:12:58

Just the fashion. I love looking back at my old photos. I was in the time of 90's ladette. There are many pics of me wearing very little at raves. Many pictures of me in cargo pants drinking cans of Stella. I look like a right nob in all of them.

Usual grin

LolaDontCryOnDogTails Fri 28-Feb-14 17:14:34

It's fine to be individual, except they probably aren't that individual.
Just makes me laugh how many on here have these individual, confident and unique children on here.

I think because my mum will still tell you how I 'had my own style' but I just looked like the group I wanted to look like, still not though is it wink

My Favourite part of shopping is watching all of your kids trying so hard to be individual that they end up looking the same.
Mine are babies, but one day they will do it too.

Totally digging the 'tribes' description

CaptainHindsight Fri 28-Feb-14 17:14:58

Stinking of patchouli.

Yeah, yeah.

Not weed at all.....wink

LolaDontCryOnDogTails Fri 28-Feb-14 17:16:45

Poorly written post there ��
Boobing the baby, make out what you can because I will not re-write it.

harriet247 Fri 28-Feb-14 17:16:47

Ohhh this thread is about me preens
Well im a hairdresser so maybe makes a differebce but i like how i look, i know dd will probably howl when she sees how i dressed in photos when shes older but i just see it as looking how i like, i love pin up girl style so extensions for my hair and eyelashes are a bit of a necessity, same for kitten nails and a bit of a glow.
Just a shame that others turn their noses up because i would never do the same, i think the freedom to look how you want is one of the best things about being a woman and its fun to dress up and express yourself.
I was the same 10 years ago but sporting bright pink hair and goth clothes and shite loads of kohl. Just all part of the fun of being!

squoosh Fri 28-Feb-14 17:17:03

KatieScarlett I wholeheartedly approve of such dedication to your look!

Anonymai Fri 28-Feb-14 17:19:53

I didn't have a look <sobs> too poor so automatically was jeans and t shirt girl. I coveted the girls with the punk and goth clothes though :')

Harriet, you go girl!!!

Fashion is fabulous, I'm all nostalgic -except for the New Romantic one
Sorting out your aspirational look was great fun when you could wear anything and still look fresh and young.
Now it's all "will this hide my muffin top?" and "will it go in the machine?"

LadyBeagleEyes Fri 28-Feb-14 17:22:52

I was another of the loonpants and cheesecloth generation. I also had an afghan coat.

fluffyraggies Fri 28-Feb-14 17:23:24

Skirt up round my arse, torn fish nets, tons of eye make up and, on special occasions, my similarly dressed best mate and i would get on the London Underground actually chained together at the hip.

However, despite all this i dont think our look was ever 'porny'. Titilating to some, definitely, but not porn inspired. Like the orange tan, tits out and false lash phenomenon feels.

grin Squoosh

The best part of going out to the dancing used to be the party we had getting ready.

6 teenage girls in various stages of readiness, discarding outfits, critiquing eyeshadow combo, spraying toxic levels of Impulse body spray (because we secretly hoped a handsome chap would give us flowers in the street), listening to U2 and drinking a cocktail from a soda stream bottle, filched from your Dads drink cabinet.

Chottie Fri 28-Feb-14 17:26:30

BookofRuth - that is such a lovely memory of your grandad smile My dad used to polish all our shoes to a gleaming shine too.

usualsuspect33 Fri 28-Feb-14 17:27:17

I had an afghan coat. Was lovely until it got wet then even the patchouli couldn't disguise the smell.

Chottie Fri 28-Feb-14 17:29:16

I was a flower child of the 70s all cheesecloth, Biba and Kensington Market. I wore Mary Quant and Biba make-up and a wanted to look like the girl in the Biba poster.....

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 28-Feb-14 17:31:08

In a highly individual manner, my friends and I planned a trend of a dark/light lip - we did brown EYEliner blended into concealer (Hide the Blemish, natch) in the centre. Our teenage worlds were made when Our Trend swept our town and became The Thing, adopted by the vast majority of local female youths.

It may be relevant to point out that our town was tiny, so really this meant just a few other people copying us.

TheBookofRuth Fri 28-Feb-14 17:31:30

Thank you Chottie, he was a lovely man. I miss him and my grandma every day.

KatieScarlett, I used to wear The Body Shop's Dewberry perfume in my early teens. To make sure I was wearing enough (!!), I would get a friend to stand in the next room, start spraying, and not stop till she could smell it in there!

Lagoonablue Fri 28-Feb-14 17:33:50

I was kind of post punk indie kid and wore second hand stuff. Long overcoats and DMs, listening to the smiths. The I discovered rave and it was all trainers, t shirts, coloured jeans, skimpy dresses etc. my hair was a disaster all the time though. Too curly to be cool, no matter what era I was in.

There aren't enough tribes now imo. Kids are too label conscious too.

MrsFlorrick Fri 28-Feb-14 17:43:21

In my day (gimmer), it was either bubble perm, blue mascara/eyeshadow and frosted pink rimmel lipstick dressed in Levi's jeans. And pref converse.

or the "Robert Smith from The Cure" look which was jean (pref ripped and black and slightly turned up), pointy black shoes, back combed dyed black hair, shirt (loose unbuttoned with a tank top under Neath) and the obligatory red lipstick.

I did perm/blue mascara thing from age 12 until 15 when I did the "Robert Smith from The Cure". Dyed my hair black (it went green and purple a couple of times) and adopted a suitably sullen attitude to go with the dark goth look and heavy makeup.

Disclaimer. I'm forrin likes and this was how it was "done" in continental Europe in the 80s.

WallyBantersJunkBox Fri 28-Feb-14 17:43:32

I remember in 1983 a rule went into the School book - no tails.

Every single girl "on trend" and quite a few boys sporting short hair (long or curly on top) with a tail at the side, or the middle of the neck. Sometime dyed, sometimes plaited.

The headmistress started patrolling the corridors with her scissors.

It was the same time as people were taking in their school skirts so tightly they could barely walk, and wearing with oversized jumpers and cardigans, ankle socks and slip on shoes.

I look in it now as "the Rita and Sue" era.

squoosh Fri 28-Feb-14 17:49:21

Did you ummm, do a lot of babysitting Wally?

FrigginRexManningDay Fri 28-Feb-14 17:54:04

Theres 8 teenage girls in my kitchen at the moment.4 with the big hair, tanned, magic marker eyebrows. 2 with half shaved heads, lots of mascara (including dd) and two with ponytails, au natural.

Its just fashion a nd style. They will cringe in 10 years time. But I take big hair over pants around the knees on boys. Now that I don't understand.

Burma Fri 28-Feb-14 17:57:31

I want an afghan coat hrumph. If I had been a child of the sixties I would have embraced it to the full! I did do all that wonderful nineties grunge thing and I was in my 20's then so no excuse that I was a teen grin!

WallyBantersJunkBox Fri 28-Feb-14 18:05:28

Luckily no Squoosh!

The large brows are called "Scouse-brows" aren't they? After the tv program "Desperate Scousewives"

Yes the sideways peace sign is the Japanese trend.

Duck face won't's filtered down to the "ordinary" folk now so will fizzle eventually.

The next photo pose to make it big will be the crouching over tiny waist grip.

<<wishes she didn't work in Fashion sometimes>>

bottlenecker Fri 28-Feb-14 19:31:11

I think the sideways V is from the Japanese manga cute street fashion

TetrisBlock Fri 28-Feb-14 19:45:24

I think teenagers now look far more individual than in my day. It's all geek glasses and men's shirts and trainers with dresses around here. Much more stylish than I was at that age. The girls either have perfect, full-coverage make up ( I can't do mine like that aged 30!) or wear none at all. Definitely no fake tan though.

truelymadlysleepy Fri 28-Feb-14 19:53:08

Don't for IG is strongly edited by my DC anyway to show them in the err, best possible light.

BankWadger Fri 28-Feb-14 20:42:57

As bad as it looks you do have to admit it is better than the white lead paint look and massive wigs that were fashionable a few hundred years ago.

CerealMom Fri 28-Feb-14 21:04:19

In my mid teens I had the 'Dedrie Barlow' long perm and glasses look. Paired with clothes (like my glasses) chosen from Tammy Girl by my DM.

Those were tough years.

nf1morethanjustlumpsandbumps Fri 28-Feb-14 21:06:45

It's the eyebrows for me the thick caterpillar ones. That look like they've been drawn on with a sharpie

KonkeyDong Fri 28-Feb-14 21:32:43

We were served by a waitress who had the bleach blonde big bun hair, spouse brow thing going on.

DH was muttering about not being able to understand her expression cos of the brow / purple blusher going on. He also asked why it looked like she had Ewan the sheep pinned on her head. I couldn't stop laughing.

KonkeyDong Fri 28-Feb-14 21:33:10

^Scousebrow not spouse brow.

TheArticFunky Fri 28-Feb-14 21:37:28

I do think some teenagers are stunning these days and I can't work
that one out. When I was a teen we were all fairly average looking a few had the pretty girl next door look but nobody was a supermodel . When I see photos of my friends daughters on facebook they are all model material and some of them are incredibly beautiful in a natural way.

Are people evolving to become more attractive?

squoosh Fri 28-Feb-14 21:41:28

Konkey this ----> hmm is a 'spouse brow'.

KonkeyDong Fri 28-Feb-14 21:45:06

Arf squoosh grin

WallyBantersJunkBox Fri 28-Feb-14 21:52:57

Artic I know what you mean - glossy hair, fantastic skin, perky cleavage. My nieces friends Facebook pics..shock

I showed DH a pic of her and her friends. Innocent photo of them sat round a table in a Pizza restaurant....with their boobs half hanging out of tiny vests. He couldn't look, got really embarrassed. grin

I think teens are more aware of diet - our school canteen served burger and chips or hotdog and chips everyday. hmm
We didn't drink water all day.
Make up was lanolin fueled cheap crap.
Conditioner wasn't really commonly used.
Decent quality fashion is so much cheaper these days
Hair products are in abundance and more advanced
No straighteners
Hair dye jobs were really unnatural and damaging, as were perms
No one used moisturizer when I was in school
No one got waxed

I agree with pp saying the sideways peace and big eyes look has come from Japan, though I bet most teen girls don't realise.

The girls there go to special booths called purikura where they can have their selfies taken, are auto-photoshopped to be slimmer/air brushed/eyes made bigger, and then personalise them with horrifying amounts of sparkles/love hearts/glowing text. The peace symbol thing is obligatory.

So, count your lucky stars we don't have this here. grin

Shoopshoop2 Fri 28-Feb-14 22:46:09

Off to open one tomorrow berry wink

ChubbyKitty Sat 01-Mar-14 01:43:54

Captain I remember doing my make up like Alex from A Clockwork Orange and wearing a bowler hat and looking away from the camera like I was deep in philosophical thought. blush

I was such a twat. Also didn't selfies use to be myspace poses? Or was that just us?grin

SnowBells Sat 01-Mar-14 01:50:11

They probably idolize some people in the media (TOWIE and soap stars... hint hint). Someone should point out to them that these are Z-list celebs, and the real deal never wear that much make up and are often au natural...

Theodorous Sat 01-Mar-14 07:21:39

Nice to see so much mocking and judging. Funny how on MN certain types of people are fair game to be laughed at but not others. Anyone rich, preened or Muslim is fair game. Anything else and a ridiculous disproportionate amount of offence is taken. If the waitress had fitted into the MN ideal laughing at her would have been frowned upon.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 01-Mar-14 07:33:35

The only issue I would have with the look you describe OP is that it's high maintenance.
I was a teen in the late 80s so I have my own shocking photo evidence. grin
But compared with other "looks" The TOWIE look is expensive: hair extensions,fake tan, dental veneers, false nails/ lashes all cost quite a bit so are out of the reach of many ppl.
It also saddens me a little that young women prioritise spending on that she very often they don't have a lot of money, or certain,y claim to not have a lot, what with requiring benefits. (ime)
But as a look. It's just. Aloof I guess. We all have preferences don't we.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 01-Mar-14 07:34:17

A look.Not Aloof

"Funny how on MN certain types of people are fair game to be laughed at but not others. Anyone rich, preened or Muslim is fair game. "

I've never seen that on MN.

It's the TOWIE look that gets the piss taken out of it, or wearing Uggs, or most WC "fashion", which I see a lot of being in Liverpool.

I'm glad this thread has gone the way it has, usually it gets very insulting, as though, Teens/Women who like these looks/trends are of less intelligence or morally inferior.

Following a look, doesn't make you a "type", a few months later and you can have a completely different "look".

That is the best bit of fashion, it's changeable (except for some plastic surgery and tattoos).

Philoslothy Sat 01-Mar-14 08:14:45

I have a daughter who is cultivating this look . Back combs her hair, eyeliner , buys this white paint for her teeth, no fake tan yet but there is time. She is also averagely intelligent and attends a secondary modern .

I love her to bits, I suspect she is every MNers nightmare.

AndyWarholsBanana Sat 01-Mar-14 08:16:44

I found a photo of me in my 1st year at uni (1987) after my friend and I had stumbled across a salon doing 2 perms for a fiver. I looked like Leo Sayer blush Our 2 male flat mates would follow us round singing "Yoooooo make me feel like dancin". We didn't find it amusing.

Ihavemyownname Sat 01-Mar-14 08:16:47

I do not get the look either and im only 21.
I see it a waste of time and money then once the look is established the wasted time to manetaine the look for the rest of the day/evening. Its sad really becusae some are naturally very pretty and the fact that some think they have to look like this this to feel equal amounguest there peer's is really sad

Lj8893 Sat 01-Mar-14 08:17:42

I do the bun thing, but in a messier way. My mum (in her 50s) always tells me how much it suits me and wishes I would wear my hair like it more often, so its not just a teen thing!
I also have fake nails but that's because mine are ruined by biting them.
I occasionally wear false eyelashes and very occasionally wear fake tan.

I wish I could afford veneers!!

Lj8893 Sat 01-Mar-14 08:18:19

Oh and I pencil in my eyebrows!!

Philoslothy Sat 01-Mar-14 08:20:00

I sure that teenagers don't have veneers.

My dd attempts the eyebrow thing, although we are quite strict about wearing makeup so it is a look just for her bedroom and the 758 photos she takes of herself everyday .

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 01-Mar-14 08:21:32

I think we're fooling ourselves if we believe that teems today are more susceptible to peer pressure and fashion tends than we were tbh.

nkf Sat 01-Mar-14 08:24:13

Have teenagers ever cared about individuality? Don't they want to look like part of a group? Different groups but still in groups. That look makes them look older which is probably what they like.

DarlingGrace Sat 01-Mar-14 08:33:32

It depends where you live, and minute differences locally as to roads and schools which have the more wealthy parents, therefore the professionally achieved look - salon dyed or home dyed? Eyelash extensions or off the market self glue on? parlour spray or home tan with orange palms?

if you gave me two girls side by side attempting to look like this, I could tell you which one comes from Bromley and which one from Bexleyheath.

Every era has 'a look' - mine is 80's rimmel make up ....'shade/shap/shimmer' trio blusher, black cherry/heather shimmer lipstick, blue eyeliner. Ghastly, but we were gorgeous!

ithaka Sat 01-Mar-14 08:38:24

My teenage DD looks lovely (she wears skinny coloured jeans, bright pink DMs, leather jacket, beanie hat - so cute).

My nephew, who is the same age, is gorgeous, but he does do that ridiculous trousers round his ankles with practically his entire boxers showing. His wee bro does it too. I send all my time itching to hoik their trousers up.

So this is not a girl thing - girls are not inherently sillier than boys, all teens like to follow a trend. I am just lucky my girl doesn't want to look like a 'plastic' (that is the term used here for the TOWIE style girls). The crowd she hangs with is quite arty, designery, so that is more her look (she does have geek glasses, but she is shortsighted)

Cringechilli Sat 01-Mar-14 08:46:08

It's kind of funny taking about teens wearing the stuff as eachother when most of the mums at the school gate wear a "uniform" = skinny jeans, boots, puffy coat!

Philoslothy Sat 01-Mar-14 08:50:52

I'd be more bothered about my daughter calling other girls plastic than a bit of back combing.

nkf Sat 01-Mar-14 08:52:09

What do the glam girls call the scruffy girls. Didn't Liz Hurley call the rest of us, "civilians?"

Why is it ok to denigrate young women by calling them names like plastic?
Why is it MN top trumps to stealth boast about how individual their DD is, when they are anything but.
Bitchy, judgemental and nastiness is ok as long as it is about young women. Nice.

'I think the look is porny and that's what's upsetting about it. I think that there have always been tribes of teen girls but it's the genesis of this look that's the problem.'

I agree with this ^ entirely.

At the last (girls) school I worked at they weren't allowed to wear makeup. Most of them didn't and were fine with it but one girl came up with the cunning plan of shaving off her eyebrows so she'd HAVE to draw them back in, figuring that black scores brows were less offensive than no brows. She was so unimpressed when that girl from Educating Yorkshire shaved hers (similar dyed black hair too) and she had to put up with people telling her how similar they were for weeks and weeks!

daisychain01 Sat 01-Mar-14 09:10:15

Youth is wasted on the young! Under 25s can get away with all that, and now the age of the Selfie (which is a sign of the me me me era we live in) means we are regaled with streams of images on a minute by minute basis.

Social media, instant fame (with zero talent) and cheap technology really doesnt help!

I suppose the big power suits complete with massive shoulder pads, Farrah Fawcette tousled hair / Pammy Ewing dowey eyed look and girls with lips like an oil slick from JR Ewing's oil well are equally as mock-worthy....

CheerfulYank Sat 01-Mar-14 09:10:44

I agree, 'twas ever thus.

I wore very little makeup, had turquoise stripe in hair, Cranberries tshirt, knicked my Dad's work shirts, ripped jeans, converse.

Just a fashion smile

daisychain01 Sat 01-Mar-14 09:14:28

And just to show a good balanced argument, WHY oh WHY does every lad under the age of 20 need to blow dry their hair forward a la Harry Styles so it looks like they have come out of a wind tunnel backwards, OR spike their hair up Bart Simpson like .. to go to school?

spanky2 Sat 01-Mar-14 09:20:37

I was a goth then grunge. I had to hide my dms too to stop my dad polishing them! I don't get the painted on eyebrow either.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 01-Mar-14 09:29:20

Its my belief that some ppl dislike this look in young women because it's very sexual. Mocking the girls results from insecurity and a fear about their DPs responses to them IMO.

badtime Sat 01-Mar-14 09:30:21

I've forgotten who was wondering about why the young girls look so beautiful.

The reason they look so beautiful to you is because you are old.

Teenage you and your friends probably appeared more beautiful to the older generation than you ever realised.

spanky2 Sat 01-Mar-14 09:31:02

It is true about school mum uniform. There are two distinct groups at ds2's school. Step ford wives wear leggings long socks boots/jeans and boots, quilt style coat, natural hair and invisible make up and and air of self satisfaction. Rough mums( that is really what the step ford wives call them!) wear skinny jeans, ugg boots, super dry coats, bleached hair and heavy make up.
I think fashion defines social and age groups. We are pack animals and seek out our group.

badtime Sat 01-Mar-14 09:33:03

TheRealAmanda, that may be the case for a few people, but I don't think so generally. I think this is just another case of older people not understanding 'the youth of today'.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 01-Mar-14 09:35:41

And it's all been said before.
Did anyone's parents ever complain that they wore too little/ subtle make up?

But the extreme combover thing was always an odd look. hmm

I accept that in the 80s I probably looked a bit of a state, and thought I looked the dog's doodahs. But I never-

Looked ten years older than I am
Looked Orange
Had awful eyebrows
Had 'toilet bowl white' teeth
Pouted like a duck in front of a dirty mirror with clutter in the background for a picture to be shown to millions.

Progress eh?

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 01-Mar-14 09:36:36

Yy I agree badtime

I think it is convenient memory loss regarding ones own teen fashion mishaps, mixed in with snobbism. Which is an unfortunate look on any adult woman.

usualsuspect33 Sat 01-Mar-14 09:41:04

If the technology to take selfies etc had been around back in the day we would have all used it.

Oh god yes. Selfies in my day consisted of endless Photo Me booth snaps kept like a pack of cards in my purse to show to anyone who stood still long enough grin

Do you think usual. grin I would like to think then that I would have removed the pile of dirty underwear in the background and Windolened the mirror beforehand.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 01-Mar-14 09:49:07

It's just got more sophisticated, the technology and the products.
And it's not just teens. Plenty of adult women spend plenty of money on tanning and nails and hair.
And Botox
I think other decade's looks we're more disposable ian way.
Whereas I can't imagine a return to a time when ppl (well, women) aren't expected to enhance their appearance. I don't think there'll be a revival of a truly ungroomed or natural look because there's no money to be mad from it. In failing high streets butchers and free grocers have closed down and betting shops and nail bars and spray-tan shops are everywhere.
Long hair, suntan, white teeth have always been desirable in western women. Now we sadly have the technology to achieve it en masse.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 01-Mar-14 09:49:51

Katie grin

usualsuspect33 Sat 01-Mar-14 09:52:33

I would love to have seen the selfies on FB from the 70s/80s/90s

MorningTimes Sat 01-Mar-14 09:55:58

Actually Theodesauras, when I read the post about the DH being rude to the waitress, I thought "What a twat". But with a wife who "couldn't stop laughing" they are probably suited to each other. I don't think that is anything to do with mumsnet, that's just twattish behaviour.

CrabbySpringyBottom Sat 01-Mar-14 09:59:39

Morning where does it say that Konky's DP was rude to the waitress? confused She said that he was muttering to her about the waitress. Are people not allowed to have a giggle with each other at restaurants any more then? hmm

Giggle away, but know that you are the twat, not the poor waitress.

MorningTimes Sat 01-Mar-14 10:03:32

Oh, I am sorry, I just re-read it. I read it as if the DH asked the waitress why he had a sheep pinned on her head. As I'm sure you'll agree, that would have been quite rude, especially with his wife then laughing uncontrollably.

If he was just muttering to his wife, then that obviously makes a big difference! I will read more carefully in future blush

mrsjay Sat 01-Mar-14 10:05:31

I just think god it must take them ages to get ready in the morning , meh it is a fashion now one my own dds are into but I had a bubble perm that was sky high and my make up was perfect at 16 now i am a slob grin

Latara Sat 01-Mar-14 10:11:12

My Mum wants to do my long hair up into the currant bun look, I'm scared she will turn up at mine with one of those mesh rings soon...

I have a doughnut. It's tiny and facilitates a perfect low chignon.

My dd1 was recently bullied as she "looks weird" and doesn't dress "like normal people" she is 12 and they only ever see her in school uniform but she likes to dress in a rockabilly fashion like us and all our family friends when she is out of school. It was totally her choice of how she dresses and she chooses her clothes and I was so proud of her for standing up and saying that she'd rather be different rather than following the towie/faux hunting set that the kids seem to favour around here.

I just know that if my hair was long enough for a doughnut I would just make a hash if it. One gust of wind and I would be walking down the street hair flying with mesh foam thing in full view.

Dawndonnaagain Sat 01-Mar-14 10:20:57

I have 17 year old twin dds. They're both into the lazy natural look. One of the things we find very funny though is the racist comments that dd1 gets (she is olive skinned due to Spanish background), they'll call her names to do with her colour and then turn up at the school prom ten shades darker! Most odd.

Latara Sat 01-Mar-14 10:21:37

I might just let her try the doughnut look on my hair once, I just can't believe the doughnut ring won't show because I have fine hair.

Cries of 'Oi your doughnut's showing' Latara. blush

mrsjay Sat 01-Mar-14 10:24:29

oh is that donut hair do done with a ring thing me and and dd didnt know how it stayed up

I have loads of hair Sparkling, the teeny doughnut tames it into sleek perfection, and only 99p in Primani too smile

SofaCanary Sat 01-Mar-14 10:25:11

'...and facilitates a perfect low chignon'

I don't know why but this made me roar with laughter! grin
Am v tempted to change name to 'Chignon Faciliator'

I love a spot of word wankery, me confused

SofaCanary Sat 01-Mar-14 10:33:00

And very amusing it is too grin

I slept for over 9 hours last night so I'm in a bit of a daft mood, take no notice blush

CheapBread Sat 01-Mar-14 10:34:36

I call that messy piled on top of head with bun 'the Princess Anne'. She's been rocking it for YEARS.

But yeah, those kids' bed sheets and clothes must be filthy with all that tan/make up.

mrsjay Sat 01-Mar-14 10:40:34

my friends dd has been sporting fake tan for years the dd had her own towels and bedsheets that were a lovely creasote colour my friend was fed up of her other towels getting filthy , I like the bun it is neat and not all over the place like the pineapple

HoneyDragon Sat 01-Mar-14 10:42:46

Perms are cool.

I see a lot more Mums of my age group rocking the creosote, big hair, big lashes white teeth look, round here than the kids though. They don't do the peace sign on FB, just the selfies and the trout pout.

"Whereas I can't imagine a return to a time when ppl (well, women) aren't expected to enhance their appearance"

Every culture has messed around with themselves, whether it's heavy eyeliner, Egyptian style, or a bone/claw inserted somewhere, or just body painting, changing our look is something that we have always done.

There is no individual look, Lady GaGa comes close occasionally, but even my Gothic DD relies on those gone before her for inspiration, in the same way my Spray Tanned other DD's do.

Regardless of what you wear, you then look to join your respective tribe at times, Festivals, Concerts, Science Fiction Conventions etc.

We all fit in, or stand out somewhere.

LordPalmerston Sat 01-Mar-14 10:44:48

look at women in the 70s = all the same too

PLus ca change

"But yeah, those kids' bed sheets and clothes must be filthy with all that tan/make up."

It's the clothes that I found the most frustrating, they would have to be binned.

It was the one aspect that made my middle DD rethink her colours, or both her and what she was wearing.

I'm glad that she didn't go down the heavy subbed use that I did in the 80's/90's though.

mrsjay Sat 01-Mar-14 10:47:35

*Regardless of what you wear, you then look to join your respective tribe at times, Festivals, Concerts, Science Fiction Conventions etc.

We all fit in, or stand out somewhere.*

^ ^ that

every single teenager has their own style and group of friends

nkf Sat 01-Mar-14 10:48:24

I wouldn't mind glittering white teeth. How do you get that look?

mrsjay Sat 01-Mar-14 10:49:51

it can be veneers or tooth whitening I would love nice white teeth it costs a fortune though

Crest whitening strips from eBay work for me. Not Ross Geller glow in the dark white but clean and fresh looking.

nkf Sat 01-Mar-14 10:55:11

Do they have to be from Ebay?

mrsjay Sat 01-Mar-14 10:56:45

oh hehe @ Ross Geller glow that was funny,

I have discoloured teeth due to illness and medicine when i was younger so i don't think those strips would work

No grin
That's just the cheapo way I get mine. I'm a recently reformed smoker and love my shiny clean gnashers.

mrsjay Sat 01-Mar-14 11:01:44

I am using arm and hammer bicarb toothpaste atm and my teeth are clean and feel great just the colour is blush

MadIsTheNewNormal Sat 01-Mar-14 11:03:48

I agree. They all look like 45 year old drag queens. Whereas if they toned it down a bit on the fake tan and the ridiculous eyebrows they'd look exactly like what they are - fresh faced lovely looking young women. I'm not against full make-up at all, but it's supposed to make you look better, not worse. confused

The strips really do whiten your teeth in quite a different way from bicarb pastes, etc.
I've had to stop recently as I was teetering on visible from space territory...
That was after only about 10 days use smile

mrsjay Sat 01-Mar-14 11:05:25

I might try them I can only wish for folk to see my teeth from space grin

CrabbySpringyBottom Sat 01-Mar-14 11:15:59

Morning yes to ask the waitress if she had a sheep on her head would have been unforgivably rude and cruel!

ithaka Sat 01-Mar-14 12:22:36

I am surprised some people are taking this thread so seriously and are getting all hoiky bosomed about young girls naming another group 'plastics'. There have always been names for the tribes you don't admire - it was the 'blue eye liner brigade' in my day.

I think this is just light hearted fun, poking fun at the youth of today and their different styles.

Plus ca change, plus ca meme chose & all that.

I think the 'plastics' label was more descriptive. Fake tan, fake nails, fake eyelashes. Nothing's real is it?

I love Snog, Marry, Avoid on BBC3. They strip off all the make up and fakery and uncover the natural beauty. It's so nice.

truelymadlysleepy Sat 01-Mar-14 12:35:17

You looking at me ithaka? I rocked the blue eyeliner, frosted pink lipstick & pie frost collar Diana look blush

ithaka Sat 01-Mar-14 12:38:23

truely yes - it was you! You were the blue eye liner brigade! I,of course, was so original in my DMs, kohl eyeliner, ripped tartan shirt and one massive earring. I did not look exactly like Bananarama, not at all.

At least the blue mascara was applied to our own eyelashes. grin

silvermantella Sat 01-Mar-14 15:30:39

chubbykitty the difference between selfies and myspace poses were that we didn't have snazzy phones with front-facing cameras, so you had to hold your camera high and as far away as possible (hard if you have t-rex arms like me!) and then pout.

Also have flash on full blast so you looked suitably pale and interesing with no nose if you went too far iirc

ChubbyKitty Sat 01-Mar-14 22:57:55

Ah true silver. Between the ages of 13-18 I don't remember having any nose at all. But i always managed to spend a lot of time complaining it was too big...

NationMcKinley Sun 02-Mar-14 19:27:03

I was a Goth in my yoof but was totally crap at it. I had the black / tie dyed tasseled skirts, long split ended purple hair, black nail polish, dark red lipstick, loads of black eyeliner etc but try as I might I always preferred Bananarama to The Cure and was too bloody cheerful and fond of carbs to really nail that tortured artistic look grin

mrsjay Mon 03-Mar-14 09:31:01

t was the 'blue eye liner brigade' in my day.

and what was wrong with our blue eyeliner and heather shimmer eyshadow grin the girls in one of my dds year called themselves the plastics they seemed to like the label and took it in good humour

abitsc Mon 03-Mar-14 09:38:28

That's what porn dolls look like, that's a thing kids are getting exposed to now apparently, be it directly through unfettered web access or indirectly through pop music and disney princesses that turn into s********s.

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