To really really want my own swimming pool

(80 Posts)
misspoirot Tue 18-Feb-14 20:54:31

No, I probably can't afford it but..... Maybe with some clever financial planning and if we sacrifice holidays, nights out, non-essential clothes, Chinese takeaways and all things frivolous..... It might be possible. Maybe I could start a neighbourhood swimming pool co-op?!

I've always wanted a swimming pool in the garden since I can remember, even better if it came in one of those log cabin type buildings! I just want to wake up and literally take a running jump...!

Does anyone know how much it costs to maintain a pool after the initial outlay of having one built?

Milliways Tue 18-Feb-14 21:07:12

This thread may help? but it is a little old.

YANBU to want one, but the only people I know who have made good use are those with permament covers / log cabin.

One friend left theirs drained as could not afford to keep, and found a dead deer in the bottom, frozen in the trapped rainwater, this winter! sad

Pedallleur Tue 18-Feb-14 21:10:59

Of course you can have one. But can you afford to run the heating/filters and maintain the pool itself? I'm sure you can find out what a small pool would cost to run but how often would you use it?

Sourpickles Tue 18-Feb-14 21:16:36

oh god.. its the first thing I'd buy if I won the lottery. I love to swim but hate public pools!

youbethemummylion Tue 18-Feb-14 21:21:02

An absolute fortune!!! I only know of the gas/electric charges from work but just those are huge then you need all the treatment/maintenance etc. If you can afford it go for it but can you realistically see yourselves never having a takeaway ever again?!

FrimpongDench Tue 18-Feb-14 21:23:56

I'd like a swimming pond, or a lap pool (one with a current) However they are a money pit. And a hedgehog drowned in the water and sucked into the heating element costs a fortune and smells a lot

MooseBeTimeForSnow Tue 18-Feb-14 21:24:14

How about an endless pool where you swim against the current produced? They take up far less space.

This sort of thing?

tolittletoolate Tue 18-Feb-14 21:24:58

I used to work for someone who had a swimming pool in a log cabin in her grounds.
It was amazing and she used to expect me to use it all the time grin

livelablove Tue 18-Feb-14 21:27:34

My gran used to have one of those ones you construct from metal parts, it stands above the ground. It was not that big. Hers was unheated though. I don't like that these days but as a kid we would swim in it when quite cold. You don't need a hut if you are willing to swim only when it is fine enough weather.

I grew up with a pool and I'm sure it was a money pit but it was amazing.

My kids have always grown up with a pool, firstly in Asia and now the US so we swim a lot (literally every day in Asia and now March through October in the US). It's amazing to have kids jump in the pool when they get home rather than switch on the TV.

Running costs in warm countries aren't high - we have an automatic vacuum and we throw in chlorine every week or so. We do have to top up with water every so often.

I don't think I'd have a pool if I lived in the UK though, the season is too short and heating costs would be too high. Would rather spend the money on membership of a decent health club with a good pool.

BikeRunSki Tue 18-Feb-14 21:31:38

Guy at work bought a house with a pool. He wasn't looking for a pool, but the house ticked all the right boxes and was a good price because the builder had gone bust. He said the only expense he didn't account for was the cost of feeding his DC's friends who spent the whole summer round his house!

BrianTheMole Tue 18-Feb-14 21:41:20

I love that endless pool. I didn't know such a thing existed. I could fit one in my garden!!!

Bombaybunty Tue 18-Feb-14 21:46:34

My super rich friend has one. She lives in a huge house and the pool costs more to heat than her house!
Beware!

DoJo Tue 18-Feb-14 21:47:19

God damnit! I had just reconciled myself to the idea that it will be a while before we can have the balcony that we want added to our house, and now an endless pool has to go on the list too! Looks awesome, and big enough for kids to play in too - perfect...

misspoirot Tue 18-Feb-14 21:54:37

Blimey Milliways that sounds like something out of a horror film!

I like the idea of a lap pool and swimming against the current in a smaller pool but there's something about a full size pool that clinches it.

Would love the kids to want to play in the pool rather than stay inside glued to screens. Plus, no having to be all adult and sensible when no strangers are about, can dive bomb till my hearts content!

Maybe I'll do it in stages - build the cabin to house it first, then the actual pool the next year and then live on cabbage soup to maintain it.

Youbethemummylion, you make a good point, not sure I could commit to no Chinese takeaways forever.

Having said that, I do have two scratch cards that have been waiting to be scratched for the last month - I like to make them last!

Philoslothy Tue 18-Feb-14 21:54:54

We have an indoor and outdoor pool. They do cost a lot to upkeep and I suspect it could put buyers off. However they are constantly used

MidniteScribbler Tue 18-Feb-14 21:58:03

I love my pool, and I know that as DS gets older it's going to be in use constantly. I have solar heating on mine (solar panels on the roof) which heat it, so I don't find the costs too high. I also find having a pool blanket keeps the heat in so it extends the swimming season. I find running my spa (jacuzzi) costs more than the pool.

misspoirot Tue 18-Feb-14 21:59:38

Heating sounds like a costly problem. Maybe I'll go unheated and invest in a wetsuit. Aren't they supposed to keep you quite warm?

The cabin could be western facing with lots of full length glass windows to use the heat from the sun (ha ha yes I know, what sun!)

DoJo Tue 18-Feb-14 22:02:43

misspoirot If you're living on cabbage soup, you could turn your pool into a jacuzzi at no extra cost!

Fannydabbydozey Tue 18-Feb-14 22:02:55

Oh god I'm with you. I'd love a pool. I fantasise about having a pool. I've never had a private pool but when I lived abroad there was one on top of my building (a swim with a view. You could chill at the side with a view of the city) and then in the next apartment, thee was a pool WITH A SWIM UP BAR downstairs next to the beach. Ok they weren't my OWN, but there was rarely any more than a handful of people in them and they have put me off cold miserly public pools for life. I'm a pool snob.
I have the tiniest of gardens and no money so I've made do with an easy set pool big enough to sit in... It's not even close.

misspoirot Tue 18-Feb-14 22:03:30

Philoslothy, indoor and outdoor, I'm positively green with envy! Sounds great x

Philoslothy Tue 18-Feb-14 22:05:58

It was either private school fees or a pool .

Philoslothy Tue 18-Feb-14 22:06:18

That was a joke before I get flamed - well kind of.

AngelinaCongleton Tue 18-Feb-14 22:07:17

Oh philoslothy tell us about your pools and how you use them? That sounds amazing!

AngelinaCongleton Tue 18-Feb-14 22:08:36

Awwww was so sucked in! I'll go to sleep dreaming of having a pool now

misspoirot Tue 18-Feb-14 22:08:42

dojo ha I knew there had to be an upside to living on cabbage soup!

fannydabbydozey pool with a bar.... Never thought of that...

pixiepotter Tue 18-Feb-14 22:09:00

Making a pool is the thing that most detracts value from your property
pulgininorton.com/10-things-that-can-reduce-the-value-of-your-home/

Nicknacky Tue 18-Feb-14 22:09:42

I had one in a wooden outhouse. Cost a fucking fortune so didn't use it apart from the odd party....and oh god, the spiders!!!!

HicDraconis Tue 18-Feb-14 22:11:55

YANBU to want one but I'm not sure I would go for an outside pool in the uk unless you put a greenhouse over it with decent heat pump or solar panels. Indoor, absolutely.

The original plans for our house included an indoor pool - still regretting not building that version although when I costed it out, if we all swam every day for 30 years, it worked out at $90 per swim. Each smile was including the cost of that part of the build though (we still built the lower floor, it's just guest rooms / office / playroom now).

I may still put one in the garden but outdoor swimming in nz is an all season thing!

Philoslothy Tue 18-Feb-14 22:12:02

We don't ever plan on selling our house, it is our forever home that hopefully we be enjoyed by our children and grandchildren for decades to come .

I am sure that it would put off buyers although I am sure there are quite a few things about our house that would put off buyers, but it is our home and not an investment .

If you're in the UK it'll be much more cost effective to join a country club/ luxury health club. I'm often the only person in the pool at mine. I've never seen more than 3 people at a time in there

Philoslothy Tue 18-Feb-14 22:15:30

I do go to the gym because I like classes . However my husband and the children just use the pool and gym at home . With five children and more on the way we save a fair amount of money in fees . Of course it style costs us on top of that .

In the summer the outdoor pool is on constant use, even if each child only brings one friend it is well used.

Philoslothy Tue 18-Feb-14 22:16:00

Of course it still costs is on top of that.

Fannydabbydozey Tue 18-Feb-14 22:16:41

Philiolothy I too am horribly envious. I bet that is just bloody marvelous. I'd rarely be out of them.

misspoirot Tue 18-Feb-14 22:17:02

nicknacky I hate spiders but I also really want a pool so I'm going to pretend I never read that. In my head the sun is shining through my sun heated, cabin housed pool.

pixiepotter that explains why the houses for sale with pools are not as expensive as I would've expected.

capercaillie Tue 18-Feb-14 22:19:52

Alternatively, you could get a wad of cash and burn each note one by one.

Several neighbours have outdoor pools. It costs a serious amount of money to keep clean. Apparently, the pools have all overflowed over the last few weeks and are now full of mud etc.

We have a lovely gym 3 minutes drive down the road. I usually get a lane to myself. Someone else looks after it etc.

Electryone Tue 18-Feb-14 22:20:53

I dream about this, but alas I live in Scotland and cant afford it anyway! We make do with holidaying in France every year, somewhere with a private pool - its great!

Fannydabbydozey Tue 18-Feb-14 22:21:51

Misspoirot I know. It was the reason I moved to the complex. Several of my friends already lived there and one let me use her apartment one weekend. In a place where you needed an alcohol license and could normally only get drinks in hotels, the sheer bloody novelty of having a bar that served beer etc next to a pool mere seconds from your home was too much to resist. The second I could move I was in there.
God I'd love a swim now! Followed by a nice chilled beer. Mmmmm.

misspoirot Tue 18-Feb-14 22:24:50

I'm going to head to bed now and dream of my own pool, oh and the inflatables! Would definitely have inflatables!

Fannydabbydozey Tue 18-Feb-14 22:25:30

I do also fantasise about the time when the kids get fed up of the trampoline and I put a hot tub in its place. I dug a hole for the trampoline so it makes sense and I'll never do anything as mad as that again. Took four weeks and the amount of soil was terrifying. Plus I found a lot of bones

How much is a hot tub these days?

misspoirot Tue 18-Feb-14 22:29:27

fannydabbydozey I know I was about to head to bed but first I have to ask, was it one of those giant trampolines? If so, what did you do with all of the soil? Do you have a giant mole hill in your garden now?!

scurryfunge Tue 18-Feb-14 22:30:03

We had an outdoor pool at our last house. It cost us about the same in central heating to heat and then the chemicals to keep it clean. The cost wasn't too bad and it was used frequently. I miss the swimming and parties but don't miss the constant cleaning and maintainance.

Philoslothy Tue 18-Feb-14 22:30:21

You can get a hot tub from about £3k. They cost about £50 a month to run.

scurryfunge Tue 18-Feb-14 22:31:55

Oh, we got rid of the trampoline when DS used it to access the pool!

velvetspoon Tue 18-Feb-14 22:32:24

A house with a pool is something I've always wanted. Despite not being able to swim blush

Where I grew up in Essex, lots of people had pools. But most were tiny, and still took up the entire garden (think average 3 bed suburban semi garden...)

My college friend had a huge pool. But it was unheated, and had to be drained, sealed/repaired and painted every year. I believe it was filled in after they moved.

Philoslothy Tue 18-Feb-14 22:32:25

Ours do that too scurry !

scurryfunge Tue 18-Feb-14 22:41:35

Ha Philoslothy! I still have images if DS bouncing if the trampoline, slam dunking a basket ball and splashing in to the water all within a couple of seconds. (shudders).

scurryfunge Tue 18-Feb-14 22:42:11

*of

whois Tue 18-Feb-14 22:46:59

A friend has an indoor one, but with those fold back door things so one side nearly totally oped out in summer.

I think an indoor one is better for heating costs and you're more likely to use it ( think how much bad weather we get!)

HicDraconis Tue 18-Feb-14 22:49:09

I am moving the trampoline to make way for a hot tub. That was the deal we made when we decided the indoor pool was one step too far - DH promised me I'd have a spa in the garden smile of course now we're pouring a concrete patio for that he's decided he wants a pizza oven there too. Party Central smile

JupiterGentlefly Tue 18-Feb-14 22:57:32

Philoslothy.. Can I be your friend?? I am nice. grin

namelessposter Tue 18-Feb-14 23:05:19

We have one. Heating it cost an. Absolute. Fucking. Fortune. Like, £100 week above normal energy costs. It's currently switched off til may. Lovely when we use it, though!

Felix90 Tue 18-Feb-14 23:06:31

DP's Mum wanted to build a pool on their land at the back of their house. She must have decided against it when she realised they live in the North East and it's about minus 50 degrees for most of the year blush

ISeeYouShiverWithAntici Tue 18-Feb-14 23:11:35

I've got one.

It's about 5 ft deep (but not filled to the very top, obviously.)

and 16ft x 10ft, so not a big one by any means. It's oval so you can get a good swim going.

And although it is an above ground pool, you can sink it and indeed we have, so 2/3 of it is underground.

this one

The pools themselves cost about three thousand.

The cost is in the maintenance.

The pump on ours needs replacing and the pipes. The pump alone is going to be about £700.

The pool chemicals you need are a pain in the arse. You need chlorine and ph balancer (+ and - ) and algaecide, and of course you have to have the test strips and test the water daily to make sure it's ok.

Then you have to heat the pool. Because even in summer in this country you cannot go in if it's not been heated. You'll freeze your watsits off.

An electric heater will bankrupt you, so you're best off going for solar panels or pods.
like these

And then you have to clean the pool, because the chemicals will ensure it doesn't go green and slimy, but you still have to get in there and clean it out. So you'll need a skimmer and ideally some sort of bottom feeder grin

You'll need a pool cover. And a winter cover. And every year you'll need to winterize your pool with a shedload of chemicals.

I haven't actually ever added up what it costs every year. I think I'm scared to grin

Fannydabbydozey Tue 18-Feb-14 23:13:26

Misspoirot the trampoline is a tiny eight foot job. I managed to fob off a lot of the soil to various neighbours. One filled two raised beds with our soil. I mistakenly thought it would be a weekend job. I'm an idiot.

HadABadDay2014 Tue 18-Feb-14 23:21:57

Yanbu, if only to look at the pool boy lol.

Nocomet Tue 18-Feb-14 23:27:15

We have run a big enough to swim in easy set one, It's great, but I'm married to a chemist.

We also have a big garden we are happy to half cover in cheap and cheerful solar panels.

Oh and cold water fish for DDs. There is no point in having a pool if you have DCs who aren't prepared to use it on cooler days.

Helpyourself Tue 18-Feb-14 23:37:24

We had one in Australia. I would kill for one now. I'm reading Barracuda which is horrid btw but the swimming descriptions are making me feel quite homesick and desperate to be able to swim easily.
I think what I'd like most of all is to live within easy walking distance of a warm sea or failing that The Serpentine in Hyde Park.

ManifestoMT Tue 18-Feb-14 23:57:18

This is what you want ( without the cheesy music)

m.youtube.com/watch?v=5L8aMI2dwf4

When I win the lottery ............

Vingtdeux22 Wed 19-Feb-14 09:32:58

We decided to purchase an above ground pool to see how we managed with a pool prior to making a decision about having an in-ground pool. We have a south facing garden in Southern England and use an electric and a solar heater as well as a solar cover. It isn't going to be the same as a pool with expensive heating but we like it and use it. My husband's brother in law claims that it is too cold for him and won't use it but most visitors have been happy using it from April/May to September/October. Sometimes the water temperature is warmer than the outside air temperature. Looking after it is fairly straightforward but if the chemistry goes wrong then it is messy and unusable for several days but this has only happened twice. It's great fun on sunny days but less so when overcast. I suppose the message is, that if you want a pool and will use it, go for it but be prepared for it being colder than hotel or villa pools in the Med or California.

tolittletoolate Wed 19-Feb-14 12:18:02

my mum has an outdoor pool but she lives abroad so it doesn't need heating. A pool man comes every week to clean it and test the chemical levels.
We went out there last summer and it was bliss. My 2 yr old dd learnt to swim in there and 10 yr old dd spent the whole time throwing things in there and diving down to get them.

CMOTDibbler Wed 19-Feb-14 12:25:00

I've been going to a swim coach recently, and he has an endless pool in the garage. I have never coveted anything so much - just set the speed and swim, no turning or avoiding anyone else

EduCated Wed 19-Feb-14 12:45:30

I really want one of those natural looking swimming ponds <sigh>

I don't even have a garden, so it's hugely wishful thinking.

kaizen Wed 19-Feb-14 12:54:08

I swim in an endless pool but it does get a bit boring even for a lesson, as there's noone else to watch and literally no changing scenery, except looking at yourself in the mirror on the bottom. I'd like one in the garden though, with a spa-bit seperately at the end so i could climb into there for a beer after a swim.

My friend saw a film with a woman swimming in an endless pool in her basement, and a murderer came in and put the lid on grin

Artandco Wed 19-Feb-14 12:55:00

Help- the serpentine is freezing all year! Even in summer. We have no pool but have a sauna and jacuzzi in a building on our roof terrace ( London, so no actual garden). They. Are great as use all year around as inside ( the jacuzzi part has glass wall door things so can be opened in summer)

I think I need a built in pizza oven next smile. I love the idea of sunken trampoline also if we had a garden

LifeisFuckingGreat Wed 19-Feb-14 13:01:48

I have an outdoor unheated pool and a hot tub. We use the hot tub in the winter and the pool in the summer. I guess we get about 3-4 months use out of the pool max (we don't live in the UK).
Even unheated it's a costly luxury. Don't get me wrong I love swimming in it and I love sitting beside it eating my lunch but now I've had it for a couple of years I could live without it. Friends and family from the UK love it because to them our house is like a holiday villa.
I would love one of those exercise pools with an end jacuzzi but I think getting the temperature right would be impossible - too hot to exercise in too cold to relax in.

LifeisFuckingGreat Wed 19-Feb-14 13:04:31

Bloody hell, that hidden pool is lush

difficultpickle Wed 19-Feb-14 13:04:52

CMOT I was all excited about the thought of an endless pool until I read your post about having swimming lessons in a garage. It sounds like a big bath rather than a pool!

Costacoffeeplease Wed 19-Feb-14 13:13:13

I always wanted to have a private pool, and never ever imagined I would, so we had a hot tub, which we loved - but 11 years ago we moved to Portugal so now have a 8x4 m kidney shaped pool in the garden. I swim most days March/April - Sept/Oct, it isn't heated, but I actually prefer colder water so as long as it's about 21 degrees I'll go in (it's currently 10 degrees!!). I do think that, as with a lot of things, you take it for granted when it's there all the time, and there are days when I don't bother, then feel guilty when I only have to step outside......... It doesn't cost much to maintain, I check the levels and chuck some clorine in when it needs it, and DH does the cleaning/hoovering, and I would certainly miss it if we didn't have it - especially midnight swims to cool down before bed, in high summer

HomeIsWhereTheGinIs Wed 19-Feb-14 13:17:22

YANBU. I started a thread a while back when I was still in shock about finding out what is left to leak out of nappies. Gross.

I would suggest a pool building with sliding glass walls so that you can open it when it's sunny?

Laquitar Wed 19-Feb-14 13:25:48

Philoslothy
I ' dying to see your house.Please post some pictures, not just the pool. All the rooms. Pleeeaase?

whatsthatcomingoverthehill Wed 19-Feb-14 13:26:54

Pool porn

From what I've heard in the UK an outdoor pool can really knock value off your house. For an indoor pool you'd probably get back what you put in (build cost, not maintenance), but they cost an awful lot in the first place.

CMOTDibbler Wed 19-Feb-14 13:32:14

Difficultpickle - no, its not exactly a glamourous setting, but having done this, I'd never pay for swimming lessons in any other setting. The closeness and mirrors mean there is no hiding any element of your stroke from the coach

misspoirot Wed 19-Feb-14 14:44:46

vingtdeux22 that's a great idea, I'm going to give serious thought to getting an above ground pool and see how we get on with that first.

Plus I won a fiver on my scratch card this morning so the pool fund is off to a flying start!

Degustibusnonestdisputandem Wed 19-Feb-14 15:22:43

A pool in the UK would definitely be a lottery-win job for us! We do hope to build a pool when we eventually build in (southern, so not always very warm) Oz though smile

BonaDea Wed 19-Feb-14 15:33:59

My dad and his wife have a pool in the basement. He is constantly complaining about the costs but it is such a lovely thing to have.

ManifestoMT Wed 19-Feb-14 15:52:59

That hidden pool is spectacular though isn't it. Sooo cool.

lateSeptember1964 Wed 19-Feb-14 15:57:04

We are currently looking at the possibility of an Endless pool being installed in our double garage. We intend to convert the garage so it can accommodate the largest pool. The people at Endless Pools have given me a local contact. This all hinges on us getting planning permission to build a double garage on land at the front of the house. We intend to get a planning application in by Easter but I'm scared of telling the neighbours. Sometimes I change my mind and think is it worth it but I know we will use it. The endless pool is cheaper and easier to run. Whenever There's a design programme on TV they usually go with an endless pool.

Booboostoo Wed 19-Feb-14 16:31:39

We used to have an Endless Pool. OH convinced me it was a cheap way of having a pool you could swim in...then went overboard and built a conservatory for it, with underfloor heating, sunk it in the ground and lined it with (gorgeous) marble tiles! It was very beautiful but in the end he never bothered swimming in it either. However the house did sell on the day it went on the market to the first person who saw it so you never know.

Now we live in the south of France where we have a very cheap, above ground pool - a lot safer for children and dogs. It's quite warm here, but we still need to heat it a bit and use it April to October, in the summer every evening after work which is really nice.

Fannydabbydozey Wed 19-Feb-14 22:26:58

Oh that pool porn was incredible. Pool porn combined with property porn.

Even my son was going on about pools today.

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