To not 'get' anti-perspirants

(129 Posts)
bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 19:19:09

I think this is going to be a controversial one grin

The thought of using an anti-perspirant gives me the creeps. To me, it's like using a product to cut down on your saliva, or other secretions, and it just seems unnatural and wrong. I haven't used it since I was a teenager and got fed up of all the white marks, not to mention the scaremongering about products containing aluminium.

I'm slightly more comfortable with the idea of deodorants but again, I hate the thought of slicking my armpits with a sticky product just to smell a bit more like a toilet freshener. I'm 'lucky' to have the dry earwax gene and everyone I've asked (I did a study as part of this at Uni too) says they can't detect an odour, but I think I'd feel this way even if I did produce BO.

I usually just spritz a bit of perfume and get on with it. To me, sweating is a beneficial thing for the body.

Does anyone else feel the same or am I completely on my own here?

Limara Sun 16-Feb-14 19:21:10

OMG you're SO not alone! Hang on......

Pollydon Sun 16-Feb-14 19:21:46

Its personal preference, I do use it , a strong one ( Mitchum) & would feel strange without it.
But, by your own logic , do you use sanitary wear ?

VoyageDeVerity Sun 16-Feb-14 19:21:50

Honestly? I think it's a bit off....

How does this work in summer for you? I don't think acquaintances would tell you if you smell - maybe ask your family?

harticus Sun 16-Feb-14 19:21:55

No I am with you.
I use Bionsen as a deodorant - and if it is very hot and sweaty I just wash my armpits.

bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 19:23:08

I do use sanitary wear, but that's just like putting a tissue in your armpits isn't it? It's not shoving a chemical up my vag to stop the blood flow.

StickEmUpBigStyle Sun 16-Feb-14 19:24:10

I don't use deodorant in the winter much either I don't like the idea of it.
In the summer though I do think you need a bit of extra help.

Unless of course you have the opportunity to wash a little bit more often in the daytime

bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 19:24:49

I don't really sweat in summer either. If I feel a bit sticky I just have a shower, it's no biggy.

I've asked my family and they don't really sweat much either, nor see much use in deodorants. We must just stink away in ignorant bliss grin

ISeeYouShiverWithAntici Sun 16-Feb-14 19:25:14

I don't like smelling of BO. People smell really quickly and they don't realise. And those around them would rather chew off their own foot than be honest about it, so they go round thinking they don't smell.

without deodorant, by the end of the day, I do not smell fresh. Even though I shower in the morning.

what is the dry earwax gene?

specialsubject Sun 16-Feb-14 19:25:18

plenty of unperfumed ones around, I agree that all fragrance is revolting. That includes your perfume.

but unless you go round naked and wash four times a day, if you do anything at all you'll sweat, and stale sweat smells. So you will smell like a sweaty person who tried to cover it with perfume instead of washing.

when I was at uni, girls wearing smellable perfume were greeted with 'didn't you wash this morning?' It's a line that isn't used enough.

sorry. Please stay downwind of people if you work up any sweat at all and won't use deodorant/antiperspirant.

phantomnamechanger Sun 16-Feb-14 19:27:25

please explain dry ear wax gene confused

Thetallesttower Sun 16-Feb-14 19:28:19

The thing is- you may be someone who doesn't sweat that much I don't but others do. Having said that my husband doesn't wear anti-perspirants either as he doesn't like the idea of them for the reasons you mentioned, but he does shower at least once a day, twice in summer and changes his top several times as well. If he didn't, random strangers would be fainting as he passed.

If you do have the dry earwax gene, then you will genuinely not smell and so do not need an antiperspirant or deodorant. Lucky!

Pollydon Sun 16-Feb-14 19:30:29

Ooh, just looked up the dry earwax gene, and I now understand why the op doesn't need anti perspirant.
I otoh have the sticky earwax ( & smelly sweat) gene blush

What has delays puzzled me is that Men are supposed to sweat more than W

expatinscotland Sun 16-Feb-14 19:35:08

Have you gone through the menopause yet?

Bogeyface Sun 16-Feb-14 19:35:24

Given that you dont need it, I dont see why you are making a big deal out of not using it.

Seems rather pointless to post that you dont need something so dont use it! I dont need a walking stick so I dont use one, should I post about that?

moonsquirters Sun 16-Feb-14 19:36:07

Well if you don't sweat and smell of course you don't need them. My DH is like this.

Otoh by the end of the day even with deodorant I smell. My clothes smell so I can't imagine what it would be like without it.

expatinscotland Sun 16-Feb-14 19:36:13

Exactly, Bogey.

Limara Sun 16-Feb-14 19:37:18

I've been using anti-perspirants for as long as I remember but recently, I've become really concerned about the 'stuff' I'm using and eating. For instance, apparently fluoride in toothpaste isn't good for us. Fluoride is a by-product of fertiliser manufacturing and because they had large quantities to dispose of, they dumped it in the water supply then spun us this story that its good for our teeth!

This got me thinking and started me to mistrust things. If 'they', whoever 'they' are, were prepared to risk my health, then why do I assume aluminium under my armpit is safe? This got me thinking some more and I thought who said that BO is not acceptable? Deodorant manufacturers?

Sure stale BO is pretty horrible but why do I not want to sweat? Sweating is normal. If I can stop the stale BO smell then this is surely better than sticking aluminium under my arms!

Morgause Sun 16-Feb-14 19:37:21

I wonder if the dry earwax gene also means a reduced sense of smell. Sweat more than an hour old stinks.

DoJo Sun 16-Feb-14 19:37:30

If you are lucky enough not to sweat much or suffer from body odour then that's all well and good, but to say that you 'don't get' antiperspirant suggests that you think others who aren't so lucky should also choose not to use it.
I'm guessing that if you did smell, you would appreciate its benefits quickly enough, regardless of whether it felt 'unnatural'. After all, I'm sure you use plenty of other products designed to improve on what nature alone offers, such as toothpaste and shampoo.
As an aside, I would rather someone used antiperspirant or deodorant than perfume - a 'spritz' of perfume is often the most cloyingly noxious smell I will experience all day, whereas it's very unusual to actually be able to smell someone else's deodorant more than a few minutes after application.

Sorry more than Women.

But they use a Deo rather than Anti Perspirant, yet don't smell any more than Women do.

But the men that I know, wash under their arms a couple of times a day, instead.

So I wonder if Anti Perspirants are gimmicks.

They do work, I use Mitchem, but we don't need them.

DisappointedHorse Sun 16-Feb-14 19:37:52

DH has the dry earwax gene! He doesn't wear anti-perspirant or deodorant and never smells. Believe me, I would not tolerate that and I'm always mortified when he tells people that, they must just assume he usually stinks.

I on the other hand am not so lucky. If I forget to put it it on I do smell by lunchtime and I wear clean clothes every day and shower every morning.

So YABU. If you don't need it, fabulous, lucky you but to not 'get' it is rather silly.

moonsquirters Sun 16-Feb-14 19:40:07

Yy disappointedhorse are you me?

moonsquirters Sun 16-Feb-14 19:41:49

Now I've read about the genes perhaps the future would be a pill to switch off my wet earwax gene. I'd definitely try that.

bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 19:42:23

But I "should" be using it according to the advertising industry, because while I don't think it smells, I do sweat.

But I am objecting to using a product that stops my sweating, because I see it as a natural function.

You see it as a natural function largely because you don't smell. If you honked to high heaven then you'd be less keen.

Don't you get visible wet marks on your clothes if you don't use anti-perspirant? I do and I know some of my friends as teenagers used to (I suppose when we were getting to grips with starting to sweat more and managing BO) and one in particular was really self conscious about it.

I'm sure I'm being manipulated to think this but it looks horrible, IMO.

I sweat loads though sad I have to carry around tissues to mop my brow in the summer because otherwise it's running down my face which is disgusting.

My sweat doesn't smell but I still use anti-perspirant because I don't want sweat patches showing on my clothes. I prefer to stay dry.

I should add I do live in a slightly hotter country than the UK and it's normally between 25 and 30 degrees here in the summer. My poor English sweat glands think I'm dying grin

GoingGoingGoth Sun 16-Feb-14 19:46:08

I also have the dry earwax gene, and haven't used deodorant for years. I'm a bit paranoid about it and have asked family and friends if I smell and so far no one has ever said I do. Trust me, if I smelt they would tell me.

I also wash regularly, especially as I like cycle.

You're lucky. They say ladies glow - well I glow fucking buckets.

Thank god for Mitchum! I'd be changing tops every hour. It was the bane of my teenage years <sobs>

Apparently it's got something to do with my super low blood pressure.

WhoNickedMyName Sun 16-Feb-14 19:47:17

I have the dry earwax gene, I sweat but it doesn't smell at all. I left my gym bag in the car once full of sweaty kit for 2 weeks while we were on holiday, it still smelled of clean washing when I opened it up.

But I totally don't get why you don't get that some people want and need to use antiperspirant or deodorant.

itsbetterthanabox Sun 16-Feb-14 19:47:59

You would definitely feel different if you were a sweaty person and got BO. Wet patches had smelling bad are much worse than using a deoderant.

PlateSpinningAtAllTimes Sun 16-Feb-14 19:48:06

I get what you are saying, op, but it's quite deeply entrenched in our culture that damp patches under the armpits are Not A Good Look. Like hairy armpits on women. And while it would probably be better for us not to do these things, most of just wouldn't be brave enough to take a stand and go against these social norms. All of that is aside from the BO issue. Good for you though, if you are planning on freeing yourself from the chains!

bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 19:48:57

The only time I've had wet patches on my clothes is when I went to Turkey in 40 degree heat, and my boyfriend at the time made us walk 6 miles with no shade!

I get out of breath faster than I sweat, and I'm not excessively unfit. Wondering now if that's a bad thing!

winterhat Sun 16-Feb-14 19:50:48

Your sweat probably does smell like anyone else's, i.e. it turns to BO as soon as anyone's would. You just get used to it and other people aren't going to answer "yes, actually you smell" when you ask them. Or if they often spend time with you then they're used to it as well.

If you don't want to use an aluminium-based product then get an organic one from a health shop.

Brushing your teeth, washing your hair, travelling by car, living in a heated home, taking any medication, wearing shoes and using soap aren't natural. Do you decline to do those too?

Well from the sounds of that, you are unusual! Most people sweat far more easily than that.

othpaste isn't good for us. Fluoride is a by-product of fertiliser manufacturing and because they had large quantities to dispose of, they dumped it in the water supply then spun us this story that its good for our teeth!

That's not true. There is a huge amount of peer reviewed, statistically significant evidence that fluoride is good for teeth

DoJo Sun 16-Feb-14 19:56:21

I don't think all men use deodorant rather than antiperspirant - my husband certainly doesn't!

Redcliff Sun 16-Feb-14 19:57:33

I used to work with a guy who didn't use anti deodorant - I have very little sense of smell so didn't bother me but everyone else really suffered. They did talk to him about it but he wasn't bothered. My sweat really stinks and I would never go without.

HazeltheMcWitch Sun 16-Feb-14 20:02:17

SauceForTheGander - what's that about - ahem - glowing and low bloodpressure? Tell me more!

Signed, a fellow low-blood pressured, Mitchum-using, Glowy Betty.

ComposHat Sun 16-Feb-14 20:02:27

Do you find you get a seat to yourself a lot op? or find you dine alone in the staff canteen?

WhoWasThatMaskedWoman Sun 16-Feb-14 20:03:07

Honestly winterhat, the non-smelly sweat gene is a real thing. You know how young children don't pong under their pits when they run around and get sweaty? Some adults don't either. It's down to whether they express "ATP-binding cassette transporter sub-family C member 11" according to Wikipedia (don't ask me, I skipped O Level biology).

treaclesoda Sun 16-Feb-14 20:06:35

I don't like anti perspirant, don't like how it feels on my skin and I have never found it effective against wet patches anyway. And I don't really like the thought of trying to stop sweat as I think we sweat for a reason.

Deodorant, on the other hand, I couldn't be without. I still remember one occasion, about ten years ago, when I forgot to put my deodorant on before going to work. By the middle ofvthe afternoon I was almost crying with embarrassment because I'm sure I smelt awful, I could smell myself and my gut feeling was that if even I could smell the sweat it must have smelt far worse to everyone else. blush Deodorant is my friend.

bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 20:08:57

I really doubt it was bad, treaclesoda! I had a flatmate who didn't use it, she had a noticeable 'smell' at times (she didn't shave either) but it was almost nice. Musky, if you will.

My DP's smell is delicious. I love it when that shower-gel smell has worn off. It's different from BO...that must be the pheromones coming out.

Bogeyface Sun 16-Feb-14 20:09:38

Ooh, my blood pressure is lowish and I am a stinky minky without my mitchum!!

Indith Sun 16-Feb-14 20:11:00

You are lucky OP but you need to remember that we all have different lifestyles. It is all very well saying you have a shower if you feel sticky in summer but can a nurse just pop and shower every 3 or 4 hours when on a 12 hour shift? Can a teacher just leave her class because she feels a bit wiffy? Actually a secondary school teacher will get ripped to shreds by a bunch of teenagers if she has BO and sweat patches. Can you imagine sitting next to someone sweaty and stinky in an office? Some of us sweat a lot more than others and some of us have stronger BO than others. Personally I know that I sweat a lot and that I get very stinky without using anything.

Hazel all I know is this ... And I got this from a newspaper article about things that are considered illnesses in different countries (will Google later...)

In Germany very low blood pressure like mine (90/40) is considered to be bad news - rather than something to be pleased about. So they treat it with medication to get it normal levels. They say it causes fainting (yep) and excessive sweating (YES). I've never heard of that link before.

I would go out with spare tops / tissues in my armpits in my youth. My wardrobe is restricted to materials and colours that don't make the problem even more obvious. Even in winter.

YABU OP as you don't get it because you don't sweat.

mistermakersgloopyglue Sun 16-Feb-14 20:18:32

How is dry earwax and sweat related? Anyhow, I don't think ds and I have that gene, I am a right old sweaty Betty and am constantly having to clean out ds's waxy ears! Anti perspirant all the way here!

ouryve Sun 16-Feb-14 20:18:55

DH gets very sweaty and stinky very quickly. He used to hate anti-perspirants, as they made him sore, but, thankfully, now wears an alcohol free roll on and doesn't get the irritation that he used to. And smells better.

Hmm interesting Sauce, I've always had lower than normal blood pressure and all HCPs in the UK were always very pleased but am in Germany now, will be interesting to see if they react differently. I need a new prescription for my pill shortly so will be checked I expect.

MiscellaneousAssortment Sun 16-Feb-14 20:38:14

I think the title and basic idea is misplaced and a bit silly. Basing your argument on the fact that you have a specific gene that means you don't have the same perspiration as others. Then criticising products made for the issue you don't have.

Empathy? Insight? Or just wanted to stir up a debate?

bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 20:41:41

I have a gene which stops it from smelling. Yet the companies still insist I "need" to use a product to stop sweat production altogether.

I've said this three times now!

treaclesoda Sun 16-Feb-14 20:41:53

ooh, I have low blood pressure too, and I also feel that I sweat a lot, but I didn't know there could be a connection. My dh certainly agrees that I sweat far more than him, he used to think I was just being very overly sensitive, a bit obsessive, until I asked him a few times to actually smell the clothes I was putting in the wash that he thought couldn't possibly be dirty. He soon understood!

And I do suffer from fainting especially in the summer hmm

MiscellaneousAssortment Sun 16-Feb-14 20:43:47

Sauce that article is a bit dodgy in terms of actual fact.

"Chronic low blood pressure is said to cause tiredness, giddiness, black-outs, anxiety and sweating. It is known as "constitutional hypotension" in German medical textbooks, but the diagnosis is not well accepted elsewhere."

I'm afraid that low blood pressure is a fact not an opinion. Just as high blood pressure is a fact.

I think you're wrong baker, I don't think these products are aimed at you personally. They're just aimed at people in general. From an extremely quick google it sounds like the "dry earwax gene" is astonishingly rare anyway, so it's a bit like someone with no feet complaining that they see adverts for shoes. The majority of people have feet so it's fair for companies to advertise shoes. No?

bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 20:48:51

I don't think the gene is all that rare. More research is probably needed. I don't have East Asian ancestry (I've studied my origins extensively) so tbf it might be some form of mutation. I've heard of plenty of people in this country who have dry ear wax - sure we're in the minority, but I really think the "need" for anti-perspirant is overegged by the media.

I just find it sad that a natural function is regarded as so disgusting. Fair do's that some people want to disguise the smell, but stigmatising sweat in such a way? ComposHat's post further up is a prime example of how extreme some reactions have become.

WhoWasThatMaskedWoman Sun 16-Feb-14 20:52:13

YY, what Bertie said.

winterhat Sun 16-Feb-14 20:53:01

> Honestly winterhat, the non-smelly sweat gene is a real thing. You know how young children don't pong under their pits when they run around and get sweaty? Some adults don't either. It's down to whether they express "ATP-binding cassette transporter sub-family C member 11"

Ha ha! That's a nice concise name for it, isn't it? grin

Yes, having read through more carefully, I now get the gene thing. I hadn't connected "dry earwax" with not getting BO and wondered why people kept comparing the two!

RunRunRuby Sun 16-Feb-14 20:54:09

How have the companies insisted that you need to use the product? Have they specifically contacted you or put out an ad targeting people with this gene? I assume that people with the gene are in the minority, so most people do need to use a deodorant or anti-perspirant if they want to avoid smelling. There's lots of products out there that I don't need or want but there's adverts for them because lots of people do.

You would 'get' antiperspirant if you had spent a week in Tenerife with a room mate who did not believe in deodorant/antiperspirant and also didn't seem to wash daily, and you were stuck on a coach next to them every single day hmm

I don't really 'get' this thread to be honest.

I don't get it Misc - I didn't read it that low blood pressure was being contested - just that it was a cause of health problems? I'd read the article years ago and haven't recently re read.

I'm not posting that article as anything other than a point of interest to those that sweat a lot and have low blood pressure. I'm not going to defend or qualify as don't care enough

I have low pressure so I know it's a fact of life.

winterhat Sun 16-Feb-14 20:57:45

bakeroony I don't think companies are insisting you need to use their products. They're aiming the ads at the majority of us who don't have the gene you do. Most of us will often see ads that don't apply to us, aimed at people with a different age/gender/income bracket/interests to ourselves.

You do realise that the adverts are aimed at millions of people, not just you, don't you, bakerooney?

Your OP is as daft as complaining that Fixodent want you to buy denture fixative, but you don't have dentures, so you don't need it.

Just ignore the adverts that are irrelevant to,you. Job done.

OneMoreThenNoMore Sun 16-Feb-14 21:06:52

I'm a sweaty Betty too sad

I really do need anti-perspirant and deodorant because if I don't, my clothes get ruined- they become discoloured, and sometimes there's a residual smell even after laundering them. (I'm another one who spent my teenage years only wearing certain fabrics/colours/fit to minimise visible wet patches).

In fact in summer I need to use a super-strong anti-perspirant that I put on overnight and wash off the next day to help minimise it. I also often have to wipe my brow with a tissue, and I've got stinky, sweaty feet too grin

I do shower every day btw.

MomentOfTruth Sun 16-Feb-14 21:08:07

Having lived in a tropical country for years I can tell you that this idea that you smell if you don't use a deodorant is just rubbish.
Seriously, I have never met someone who was smelly apart from one situation: after exercising.

And this was in a place where you could feel the sweat dripping from you from sitting down on a chair! So the sweat wasn't just around the armpits but all over the body.

The issue of having wet armpits is different. It's the sight of it that make people queasy. And i do get that.
But not so many people are affected like this in this country that they would need deodorant (there is actually a name for the condition but I can remember its name). For the rest of us, maybe 95%, this is not necessary.

<holds sweaty hands with fellow betties>

I must be a right stinky bastard because if I didn't use a deodorant I'd be intolerable to be around.

MomentOfTruth Sun 16-Feb-14 21:11:28

there is also another issue. On a very physical level, sweating does have a use and by using antiperspirant we do affect that. One could wonder what could be the consequence of it.

Eg if you were to use an antiperspirant all over your body, you would actually put yourself in a difficult situation as you would struggle to regulate your body temperature (which is done thanks to perspiration)

princessalbert Sun 16-Feb-14 21:11:46

My husband has loads of earwax- but never smells of BO.

I don't have any - and sweat like a trooper. Even the heavy duty men's anti-perspirant doesn't stop me smelling.

CominThroughTheWry Sun 16-Feb-14 21:11:55

I do use anti-perspirant, though I've found lately due to early menopause that it doesn't seem to be working any more. I have to wash and reapply two or three times daily.

I never used to smell. My feet and fanjo are fine, but my armpits? I could weep. sad

Moment are you thinking of goldfinger and covering every pore with gold paint? It doesn't end well.

BlueStones Sun 16-Feb-14 21:16:17

Oh eck. I've known a few people who wouldn't use deodorants or antiperspirants because they were "unnatural". Every one of them stank; I mean, really stank.

alphabook Sun 16-Feb-14 21:17:05

I sweat very heavily, no matter how hot or cold it is, if I didn't use a strong antiperspirant I would smell awful and would be dripping with sweat. Saliva is not comparable - if I had so much saliva that I was constantly dribbling then I'd also want to do something about it.

rockybalboa Sun 16-Feb-14 21:17:14

Good for you not needing it. Some people do. Don't really understand why you felt the need to post.

OneMoreThenNoMore Sun 16-Feb-14 21:18:45

Moment, for me it's not so much the sight of sweat patches that bothers me any more (that was my main concern as a teen though); it's how it feels to have wet patches- I find it really unpleasant and uncomfortable.

I do sweat a lot though, and not just when I'm exercising, so I accept it's not such an issue for people who sweat "normally".

<wipes sweat off hand before joining Sauce>

MomentOfTruth Sun 16-Feb-14 21:20:24

No I am thinking of a daft moment in my youth when I used some antiperspirant wipes and 'cleaned myself with that. Thinking that it would be good as they would give me a nice smell too (we were doing so wild camping and there was no showers).
I ended up really uncomfortable, getting too hot etc...

You must be part of a lucky minority.

I used to have to do 8 pallet deliveries up two flights of stairs and then carry on my shift serving customers on the shop floor. For the sake of customers and colleagues I need deodorants and anti perspirants!

Anti perspirant adverts are aimed at people who DO sweat. You don't. Just ignore. Make a cup of tea or something...

MomentOfTruth Sun 16-Feb-14 21:21:48

And yes I am asking all of you how do you think people in tropical countries are doing. Are they all extremely smelly? because clearly they will have being sweaty all over the body, not just armpits.

In reality, no they aren't all extremely smelly. So why the need in the UK?

exexpat Sun 16-Feb-14 21:25:57

Moment - people in tropical countries may well have the genes to be less sweaty, unlike people in the UK. See earlier reference to 'dry earwax gene' - the same gene seems to make you sweat less and have dry earwax; it's the prevalent version in Japan, for example. But I think most Europeans produce sticky earwax and more sweat.

It makes sense as a natural adaptation to hot climates, in the same way as having pale skin and blue eyes is an adaption to less sunny regions.

For those of you with heavy perspiration problems, it's called hyperhidrosis and there are antiperspirants available on prescription that can help.

<outs self as a fellow sufferer>

bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 21:32:02

I don't think they do, exexpat - it tends to be wholly absent in African countries, and only prevalent in North Asian areas, becoming rarer and rarer towards the West.

MomentOfTruth Sun 16-Feb-14 21:32:54

Hold on the people I was living with were not all 'native' Quite a few were expats with the same 'genes'.
And they didn't have any more problem.

bakeroony Sun 16-Feb-14 21:33:04

And the gene doesn't make you less sweaty, it just allows odorless sweat. It would be a good thing to be sweaty in hot climates - would cool you down.

Tapirs - don't they sting? I used something once that felt awful.

MomentOfTruth Sun 16-Feb-14 21:34:25

And YY I agree some people do have some issue with perspiration. it's a medical condition and a very different issue that what the OP is talking about.

Omfg, I've just read about the dry ear wax gene thing and realised this is me! I very rarely sweat and when I do I don't get bo at all. I use maybe 1 small can of deodorant a year, and thats only for horse shows (riding horse while wearing wool jacket in height of summer = guaranteed sweat)
I've always wondered why I don't get Bo (and always considered myself incredibly lucky!)
Now I know. Dry ear wax, who would have thought it.

OneMoreThenNoMore Sun 16-Feb-14 21:38:04

Sauce- I use Triple Dry, and it doesn't sting. You can get it over the counter; it costs about £6. smile

I also tried Driclor, which was very effective, but it stung and made my armpits really red and sore.

Yes it was driclor that hurt!

Thanks for the tip!


thenightsky Sun 16-Feb-14 21:40:03

God I'd love that gene. envy

I've had to give up my beloved jive/latin/salsa dancing as I'm so distressed by the sweat the runs down my temples, drips off my nose and makes my hair so wet I look like I've been swimming sad

not to mention the rivers running down my spine and soaking my clothes.

HazeltheMcWitch Sun 16-Feb-14 21:40:18

OOh, Gander - thanks for posting that link, interesting!

<Waves at fellow Betties, but keeps arms quite firmly clamped to my sides as I am experimenting with no deo/AP and it's not going so well>

OneMoreThenNoMore Sun 16-Feb-14 21:41:35


JackNoneReacher Sun 16-Feb-14 21:44:47

This is one of those stealth boast OP's.

"I don't sweat or smell, don't need deodorant therefore what is wrong with those of you who do you dirty stinking mingers ?"

YABU - for not having the imagination to realise that some people sweat and smell and for boring us all with how dry and odourless you are. Lucky you, well done.

Reminds me of those threads where the OP doesn't understand why some women wax. Then delights in telling us about her perfect, neat, triangular lady garden and soft, blond leg hairs.


Ahhh, that moment when you're out and you realise you've got massive sweat rings forming and you spend the rest of the evening trying not to move your upper arms and reveal your huge patches. You only move arms from the elbow down.

I'm bloody well hairy too.

<missing link>

HappyCria Sun 16-Feb-14 21:54:52

SauceForTheGander that's really interesting about low blood pressure and sweating. I had people at work laughing about the people that would use 48 hour anti persperiants and how horrible they must be to not wash every day. I was too blush to mention that I needed that type just to get through an 8hour working day.

Once when I was at the G.Ps they mentioned that if I was in Germany I would be treated for my low blood pressure because it is so low I asked why I wasn't here and she said that the drugs can increase your chances of having a heart attack so weighing up the risks they would never treat low blood pressure here.

They just leave you to suffer instead hmm

BlueStones Sun 16-Feb-14 21:55:37

Moment, underarm sweat is different to general sweat so the tropical countries reference is not comparable. Underarm sweat is apocrine. Body sweat is eccrine and does not develop odour.

HazeltheMcWitch Sun 16-Feb-14 22:01:16

^I'm bloody well hairy too.

<missing link>^

Me too! Yay, me.

HazeltheMcWitch Sun 16-Feb-14 22:01:34

And I cannot do italics either!

Happy interesting that you've had that conversation with your GP. My blood pressure gets commented on too but as a compliment.

I've can be really anxious too .

Hazel - my mumsnet twin

JackNoneReacher Sun 16-Feb-14 22:06:34

Hazel and Sauce are you both saying you are both sweaty and hairy?!

Can I join your club? grin

Waves <revealing hirsute, glowing armpit>

HazeltheMcWitch Sun 16-Feb-14 22:08:46

Welcomes fellow hairy sweaters wine

Is this a quiche?

<faints thanks to low blood pressure and being in a mumsnet quiche>

JackNoneReacher Sun 16-Feb-14 22:15:32

waves back <wearing another black top, no sweat patches visible here>

apologies for hairy, sweaty hijack grin

thenightsky Sun 16-Feb-14 22:16:35

*This is one of those stealth boast OP's.

"I don't sweat or smell, don't need deodorant therefore what is wrong with those of you who do you dirty stinking mingers ?"

YABU - for not having the imagination to realise that some people sweat and smell and for boring us all with how dry and odourless you are. Lucky you, well done.

Reminds me of those threads where the OP doesn't understand why some women wax. Then delights in telling us about her perfect, neat, triangular lady garden and soft, blond leg hairs*

^ this ^

Dubjackeen Sun 16-Feb-14 22:22:44

Another sweaty Betty here waving her deodorised armpit decorously.

I know someone who doesn't sweat. His nickname is the lizard

diddl Sun 16-Feb-14 22:29:46

I've got dry earwax but am sweaty!

LongTailedTit Sun 16-Feb-14 22:38:26

OP - please can I ask, do you not notice when other people have proper sour nasty BO? Surely you can recognise that it's unpleasant? Because if all I produced was wetness and a bit of a natural musky odour I'd bin my antiperspirants and be as happy as Larry.
However, before DC, I'd shower before work, apply antiperspirant or deodorant, dress in freshly washed clothes, and then head to work. By the time I got to the office an hour later, I stank. Often had to wash my armpits again and put another clean top on, and repeat as necessary.
Really very unpleasant.
Fortunately I seem to be less stinky these days as a SAHM and only have that grim stench occasionally in summer. BO seems to be linked to my stress levels, and I get especially stinky in situations like flights and commuting.
Oh how I'd love your non-stinky gene! <actually jealous>

I really don't get the point of this thread. Advertising tells me I need to wear foundation, however I don't like it and don't believe I'm in need of it so I don't. Other women want to or need to, hence the product existing.

As a side note, a Japanese ex boyfriend had a cool earwax thingy, apparently the normal tool over there - a small wooden stick with a scoop shaped end like a miniature boat oar (4" or so long), and a fluffy thing on the other end. He explained that Japanese tend to have dry earwax, so they use the scoopy end to remove it and the fluffy end to sweep the crumbs out! grin

steff13 Sun 16-Feb-14 22:40:19

I have dry ear wax, but I have stinky pits without antipersperant/deodorant.

You know what I don't get? Coconut water. It doesn't really have the same texture as water, it sort of has a flavor but not really, it's weird.

Goofymum Mon 17-Feb-14 00:29:04

Surely the majority of people need at least deodorant. I don't understand what the OP doesn't 'get' about something the majority of people use. Am sure the OP would feel differently if they stunk of BO few hours after a shower. They would reach for the unnatural roll on.

ComposHat Mon 17-Feb-14 00:37:28

*just find it sad that a natural function is regarded as so disgusting. Fair do's that some people want to disguise the smell, but stigmatising sweat in such a way? ComposHat's post further up is a prime example of how extreme some reactions have become.

No it is not extreme to objecting to reeky bastards honking the place out because they think they don't smell (usually they are just used to the smell of their own stale sweat) or because of some vague hippy dippy bullshit about 'y'know we are meant to smell this way maaan.'

Either way it is the height of rudeness and no different to deliberately farting in a lift.

I agree Compo

jellyandcake Mon 17-Feb-14 06:50:41

Interested in the low blood pressure thing - I have low blood pressure when pregnant and at the moment, my deodorant is not getting me through the day! By lunchtime I am desperately paranoid about this. Am also very anxious (not just about being stinky, but in general). Not sure a super-strong extra-chemicals type of AP would be a good idea during pregnancy, but it's definitely something that bothers me a lot. Sweating may well be a natural function but right now it makes me uncomfortable and I don't like it. It doesn't smell nice to me and I can't get away from myself! Or shower in the middle of my working day!

There are plenty of adverts aimed at people who are not me though, for lifestyles I will never adopt and I just tend to ignore them rather than thinking the advertisers are shouting at me personally!

VoyageDeVerity Mon 17-Feb-14 08:09:25

I am shocked no one has mentioned what ones eats and how it affects body smell. After a dance class at the gym I go to there is a smell of food in the room, that's the only way to describe it.

Drinking lots of water and eating plain, non spicy food will affect the way your sweat smells!
I find the way I smell after a boozy night out is awful but normall my sweat doesn't smell as I have quite a bland diet.

whois Mon 17-Feb-14 08:22:22

If you wear loose fitting tops, and you don't really sweat much then you can probably get away with it.

I need to wear anti persperant or I smell by lunchtime otherwise!

Trills Mon 17-Feb-14 08:35:58

I love SDTG

Your OP is as daft as complaining that Fixodent want you to buy denture fixative, but you don't have dentures, so you don't need it.


hackmum Mon 17-Feb-14 08:38:19

How long have human beings been using deodorant? 70 or 80 years? Difficult to say in that case that we "need" deodorant. There are smells all around us, and we just get used to them. When I was a child lots of people stank of cigarette smoke but hardly anyone seemed to mind.

I use deodorant but every time I spray it on I think I'm being foolish. It's just that advertisers have managed to instill in us a fear of smelling sweaty.

Didn't they put onions in their pits in Tudor times? Yum.

Trills Mon 17-Feb-14 08:44:34

That's one of the reasons why people who are nostalgic about the past are idiots not thinking things through - everything would have SMELLED.

ComposHat Mon 17-Feb-14 09:41:21

hack we have only had antibiotics for 60 years, oral contraceptives for 50, and a minimum wage for less than 20. Our flat didn't have an indoor bathroom until the 1980s.

Whilst socety functioned without these things for100s of years and we don't 'need' them, but I am glad I live in a society with them rather than one without them. Likewise antiperspirant.

Suzannewithaplan Mon 17-Feb-14 10:59:32

I have low blood pressure, I sweat very little and rarely smell of BO.
My earwax seems to be dry.
I don't faint but am prone to postural hypotension.

takingthathometomomma Mon 17-Feb-14 11:02:55

If you genuinely don't smell I don't see why it would be a problem. Nothing worse than being shoved up next to someone on the tube who's anti-anti-perspirants though...

PoirotsMoustache Tue 18-Feb-14 18:39:00

I wish my work colleague would wear deodorant at the very least, if not anti-perspirant. He does smell quite a bit of strong BO, despite being a clean guy who showers daily. He also eats a lot of strong-smelling food, which makes it more pungent

I don't really smell very much unless I'm extra hot or have been more active than usual. But I still wear anti-perspirant because I don't want to risk offending the noses of those I spend time with.

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