To think my neighbour should park in his own space

(68 Posts)
BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 11:34:39

My neighbour has his own disabled parking space marked outside his house. However for large parts of the day he doesn't use it, but leaves his car outwith it, This reduces the space available to non-disabled drivers and makes me wonder why he needs it if he rarely uses it.

There is probably nothing the rest of us can do, but it is very annoying to come home after work and struggle to find somewhere to park.

LucyLasticBand Sun 09-Feb-14 11:36:46

so his car isnt using it? or he is out? and it is empty?

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 11:38:27

He and his wife are in the house most of the day, disabled space empty and their car parked outside somebody else's house.

BelleateSebastian Sun 09-Feb-14 11:39:54

There must be a reason why? surely!

If not he's a selfish entitled bastard ;)

SirChenjin Sun 09-Feb-14 11:42:34

That is weird.

Could you ask him if it would be OK to use the space if his car is parked elsewhere in the street? If not, could you ask him to use his own space and keep the others free for non-disabled drivers?

LucyLasticBand Sun 09-Feb-14 11:44:00

what does the neighbour whose house he parks outside say?

Fairenuff Sun 09-Feb-14 11:45:36

If it's a public road, the space is not just for him, even though the council may have allocated it outside his house. It is for any driver with a disabled badge.

However, if he is not using it, it might be worth getting in touch with the council and asking what their policy is in this situation.

HSMMaCM Sun 09-Feb-14 11:45:47

Does he still have a disabled badge?

RiojaHaze Sun 09-Feb-14 11:46:13

YANBU. Parking spaces on our street are a big moany topic. We have our own drives but there is a part of the street where visitors can park that fits 3 big cars or 4 little cars perfectly.
Perfectly that is, until some people park stupidly so only 1 or 2 cars can fit there.

Maybe he doesn't realise the space is needed? Or maybe he's being kind and thinking he'll leave the space for someone who needs it more than him!

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 11:47:24

It's usually my house he parks outside!

I think he may be doing it in the hope that someone will complain about it to get a reaction. The other neighbours and I have all been subjected to verbal and property abuse by he and his wife and I personally have not spoken to them for over a year.

I'm guessing it's totally deliberate and he's keeping that parking space clear for the neighbour as the paint keeps his clear for him and he can move when the neighbour gets back.

Very neat.

Ah in that case he's just being annoying, why I guess he won't tell you?

SirChenjin Sun 09-Feb-14 11:49:49

In which case I would either park in 'his' space and then turn my doorbell off, or phone the Council for advice depending on how brave or PMT ridden I was feeling

Fairenuff Sun 09-Feb-14 11:51:05

If he is abusive, do not try to speak to him about it. Get in touch with the council and see what they say.

He does have every right to park in front of your house though, so he is doing nothing wrong, it's just inconvenient for you.

mrssmith79 Sun 09-Feb-14 11:52:12

Irritating isn't it? In our terrace of 40 houses, 5 have disabled markings and only one is used for its correct purpose. The others get used as friends and family parking, somewhere to house a fixer upper project (that hasn't left the street in well over a year) and one is left over from a previous homeowner.
Interestingly, when I mentioned this to a friend who works for the council they told me that if the spaces are just white markings on the road with no accompanying sign next to them then they are merely 'courtesy bays' and that it's perfectly legal to park in them. Haven't tried though...our street is quite renowned for its 'mystery' car keyings and wiper / wing mirror rippers...

I'm guessing he's saving the spot for someone else as he knows he will have an available space later. Nothing to stop him doing that, annoying as it may be.

Your only option is to make an alliance with a Blue badge owner and get them to park in the disabled spot every time he does it, though some might see that as a bit OTT, it depends how much it's annoying you. grin

Mia4 Sun 09-Feb-14 11:58:44

I wouldn't park there without a blue badge, you can't be sure that another bb holder won't need it and you can be ticketed and possiblly towed for parking in it. Seeing as he is abusive I expect he would love you to park there so he could report it.

Contact the council and explain the situation but given how dithering they can be I suspect there's not much that will happen. Your best bet is to ignore him and his attempts to wind up and log all abusive and antisocial behaviour with 101, your local safer neighbor police and the council.

It's shit having a neighbor from he'll, I highly suspect he is trying to annoy you all if he has form for it and in that situation he's just waiting for a reaction and a chance to yell abuse and also play the victim.

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 12:27:31

Thanks for all suggestions. I'll contact the council tomorrow.

We have had the community warden round regarding their previous abuse. Those particular incidents stopped afterwards. but I think they are just the sort of people who have to have something to complain about.

FrysChocolateCream Sun 09-Feb-14 13:14:44

Pity you can't ask him directly what he is doing,

Disabled bays outside houses aren't legally binding. They rely on other people to be courteous. You are not breaking the law if you park there. As he is being discourteous I would be tempted ..........

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 14:09:33

There is a plaque on the wall that says only disabled badge holders can park there.

I am sorely tempted to do something but
A don't want to give him the satisfaction of knowing that it's annoying me
B don't want any retaliation/damage to my car.

They are very sneaky and do things that are within the law and don't get caught, but we know it's them who's doing it, if you see what I mean.

Do you have any friends with blue badges who could come for a long visit, park in 'his' spot and see what happens?

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 14:24:53

Sadly I don't. That idea had occurred to me. They could have left their car there while they went on a 2 week holiday abroad!

MrsKoala Sun 09-Feb-14 14:32:51

We had a neighbour who used to do this and it drove my dad mad. He eventually called the council to be told it was perfectly allowed. The neighbour left it free for visits from his daughter. If he went out and came back and it was the only space available (ie after 5pm) he would park there, but the moment someone else moved (usually at 7am) he would then move his car outside their house. The whole family had 3 cars on a tight road and would use the space as a 'place holder' till anyone else moved. Then their 3 cars would be outside 3 other houses and the disabled space outside his house empty. Nothing you can do about it tho.

CaptainTripps Sun 09-Feb-14 14:53:03

What an absolute git, OP.

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 15:52:54

He is indeed. They are a retired pair who came up here cos of cheap house prices and were fine when I moved in. Since then they have complained about every member of my family seemingly doing this to annoy them, which in fact are just part of everyday life.

However I have every single incident recorded. Sad I know.

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 15:53:33

doing things - sorry

tripecity Sun 09-Feb-14 16:37:13

wait - so if a disabled bay has no sign on the pavement then anyone can park there?

(I am talking about parallel parking on a residential road and the sign I am on about it is the metal disabled sign on a little pole)

Anyone know? I cant find anything on google about it

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 17:04:40

YANBU re: him being an abusive git but he has a right to park wherever he wants, even if he just 'feels like it'. You don't own the bit of road directly outside your house.

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 17:05:40

BTW even if it's not illegal to park in a disabled bay without a blue badge, it's still a shitty, immoral thing to do.

Janek Sun 09-Feb-14 17:08:44

mrssmith we had a disabled bay on our street, first the woman died, then the man died, then the family parked their mopeds there while they did up the house, then they sold it and some new people moved in. I rang the council and asked for it to be removed as i knew full well that it's rightful owner was no longer with us, also the new occupiers couldn't park in front of their own house, due to the disabled bay their house owned!

The council wrote back and said they'd remove it and sure enough they did.

And we all lived happily ever after.

fridayfreedom Sun 09-Feb-14 17:21:04

I have helped people get disabled parking spaces outside their house as part of my work. You have to really justify why they need to be able to park so close.
If he's not using it all the time then he clearly doesn't need it. Ask the council to investigate and suggest that they remove it if he isn't using it. They should be removed when the person it is for dies or moves etc but families don't always tell the council and keep using it.
Take photos as evidence.

glammanana Sun 09-Feb-14 17:27:13

If he is caperable of walking from another parking space outside someelses home he has no need for disabled parking outside his own home I would certainly photograph the empty space and also where he has parked his car.

glammanana Sun 09-Feb-14 17:28:17

^^ spelling sorry should read someone elses ( fat finger syndrom)

IAmOptimusPrime Sun 09-Feb-14 17:32:06

Take a photo every day of the empty space, try and get his car in the picture too.

IAmOptimusPrime Sun 09-Feb-14 17:32:35

X post!

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 18:06:28

"If he is caperable of walking from another parking space outside someelses home he has no need for disabled parking outside his own home I would certainly photograph the empty space and also where he has parked his car."

What a load of tripe!

Fairenuff Sun 09-Feb-14 18:12:49

Not really candy because if he needed the space for his disability, he would be using it. He doesn't use it, so he doesn't need it.

Blu Sun 09-Feb-14 18:13:50

tripecity if it has what they call a kerbside notice - which could be on a pole, or on a wall on the pavement or railings etc -a blue and white metal plate saying Blue Badge holders, then the bay is legally enforeceable.

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 18:18:44

Maybe he got the space when the street was really busy and he couldn't get a space? Seems a bit bonkers for people to assume he doesn't need it when it's really hard to get a disabled badge, he'll have been assessed by professions with his medical history.

WestieMamma Sun 09-Feb-14 18:48:07

There may be a perfectly valid reason for this. The badge is for the person not the car. Maybe someone else is using his car when he's not in it?

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 19:24:21

candy I realise that people can park anywhere. The point I am making is - Why does he not use his own designated disabled space and leave the rest of the area for those of us who need to park.

Westie - nobody else is using his car, The car sits outside my house with the disabled space empty while he and his wife sit indoors all day.

I feel he is doing to be deliberately awkward (as I have mentioned their abuse earlier) and is waiting for someone to object, so that he can cause more bother. That's the kind of people they are unfortunately

IamInvisible Sun 09-Feb-14 19:29:34

With respect, unless you have seen the photo on the back of the badge you don't know who it is for. It can not be used if that person is not in the car when the car is parked.

redbinneo Sun 09-Feb-14 19:32:01

Candy
I doubt if the professions have his medical history, did you mean profesionals?

redbinneo Sun 09-Feb-14 19:32:42

Or even professionals.

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 19:35:28

I know the badge is for him because (back in the days when they spoke to me), his wife told me and that the council were coming that afternoon to paint his disabled parking space. He is the only person who drives the car as she can't drive

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 19:41:21

red Well, quite clearly it was a typo, my point stands though.

CuttingOutTheCrap Sun 09-Feb-14 19:42:21

Is it 'his' space, installed and intended for his use, or just a disabled space that he sometimes parks in because he has a badge?

Perhaps he's leaving the space free for someone else to use when there's another space free that he's happy to use? Maybe someone else (his wife?) is driving alone when its not parked in the space?

Squeakygate Sun 09-Feb-14 19:48:29

It's obviously sothey can get a good view when they twitch their curtains! A great big van parked in front of their house would block their view.

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 19:51:29

Unless you live in specific London boroughs, disabled spaces are NOT personal spaces, they are for anyone with a disabled badge. So, he's not avoiding using 'his' space, he is using the road freely as anyone is allowed to do.

Pilgit Sun 09-Feb-14 20:04:07

My old next door neighbour got one painted in. She really couldn't walk that far so it was a godsend for her. Although she was an absolute cow! She always used it and had to go through quite a few hoops to get it. If there is no real need then the council may remove it.

IamInvisible Sun 09-Feb-14 20:08:26

Maybe he doesn't qualify for a badge any longer. Or maybe, as he pays his road tax, he is parking where he bloody well likes as he is allowed to, within the law!

Viviennemary Sun 09-Feb-14 20:09:56

Is this car parking space he has painted out official or has he just done it himself. If he has I would ring the council. He doesn't own the road.

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 21:05:44

The disabled markings were painted by council workmen, at his request as he obviously felt he needed it. I can't see the point or need of him having the bloody thing if he rarely uses it.

CuttingOutTheCrap Sun 09-Feb-14 21:06:06

oops, xpost re the wife driving. Although regardless of the wife saying the Council were coming to paint 'his' space, it's likely to be simply a disabled badge one, for him or anyone else with a badge (likely one they asked for though!)

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 21:11:00

They are such a pain in the arse of a couple I've decided just to contact the council although I'm sure they'll say there's nothing they can do.

Yet another downside of having these lovely people living next to me!

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 21:12:05

It doesn't matter who requested it, it's not his space. Neither is the space outside of your house. Tough shit.

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 21:13:10

Thanks for your support candy

I have never claimed that is was

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 21:14:01

Sorry but what support do you want?

Fairenuff Sun 09-Feb-14 21:16:59

Seems a bit bonkers for people to assume he doesn't need it when it's really hard to get a disabled badge

No candy people are assuming he doesn't need it because he doesn't use it. If he needed it, he would use it.

He doesn't have to park there but he requested the space to be reserved, which the council agreed to and painted it in for him and now he's not using it.

Therefore, OP I think there is a good chance that the council will revoke the space.

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 21:24:04

But a disabled space is never for one person, regardless of who requests it.

Also, the OP does not own the space outside of her house.

2 simple facts.

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 21:25:13

BTW I recently moved house with only on street parking. A neighbour has a disabled bay near her house. We share it, so thus, neither of us need it all of the time, so should it be removed?

BabyMummy29 Sun 09-Feb-14 21:25:23

Fairenuff exactly the point I was trying to get across.

Glad some people could understand it.

Fairenuff Sun 09-Feb-14 21:35:47

candy we all know that it's not just for him but it was specifically put there because he requested it and now he doesn't use it. If he hadn't asked for it in the first place, it wouldn't be there and anyone could park on that part of the road.

We also all know that OP does not own a space in the road. That is not what we are discussing. We are talking about the fact that he requested a disabled space to be marked outside his house and then he didn't use it.

BTW I recently moved house with only on street parking. A neighbour has a disabled bay near her house. We share it, so thus, neither of us need it all of the time, so should it be removed?

I don't understand what you mean about this. The space is designed to be used by drivers with a badge and that is what you are doing isn't it. Why would you want it removed?

If no-one was using it, like on this thread, then it should be removed.

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 09-Feb-14 21:51:33

Maybe he doesn't have the badge anymore though?

SirChenjin Sun 09-Feb-14 22:06:31

In which case - the OP should phone the Council and find out what the procedure is. Bottom line is - if he's got a blue badge and he's asked for a space outside his house then he should do the decent and neighbourly thing and bloody well use it - not keep it for his pals whilst using spaces which are required by other people.

deakymom Sun 09-Feb-14 22:24:45

my friend had a disabled parking space put outside his house he needed it because he could not walk far and he lived on a road without off road parking (victorian terrace) he used it and left his car there when it was not in use which is the purpose of having the thing in the first place

according to the regulations it would be issued if the disabled person owns/drives the car and is resident at the address it cant be used for carers or visitors but anyone else with a blue badge can use them

so he should use it not to do so is a bit on the petty side and a waste of money you don't pay for it the council does its for your use and anyone else with a blue badge but if all he is doing is sitting in his house it should be there not wasted he is baiting the OP good job he didnt try it on my husband he threatened to put a nail in the tyre of the nasty person who parked (deliberately) in front of our house when we were picking our son up from hospital who had just got over bronchiolitis (the bloke took his car off his driveway and parked slap bang in the middle of our house which fits two cars he then went back inside his house) trouble is my husband would have done it to

HSMMaCM Sun 09-Feb-14 23:02:39

My mum has a badge, do you want me to send her round to park outside his house?

BabyMummy29 Mon 10-Feb-14 07:55:02

LOL MSM that's a plan.

And he does still have the badge, as it sits on the dashboard of his car while it's parked in the non-disabled area of the street

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