To choose a detached house a mile's walk from the station instead of a semi near station?(95 Posts)
We are buying a house and feel we have finally had some luck after our previous purchase fell through. We have found a gorgeous detached house that's within our budget in a perfectly acceptable though less posh area than where we were originally planning to buy.
The house we now want is a mile from the station and I commute by train every day. No DCs to worry about but we are oop North (still in England though) so there will be plenty of rain, cold days etc. I have to dress fairly professionally at work so naice trousers and shoes with a button down shirt kind of thing. I plan to wear walkng shoes and leave my work shoes at work to change into while I get there. And will wear waterproof overtrousers and a raincoat with a good on rainy days.
DH uses the car and parking may be an issue as the new house is four doors down from a park with playing fields that's also popular with dog walkers. A few times we have been by the house and the drive has been blocked by another car and the street is choka with dog walkers cars. But I figure thats DH's problem as the one who will be driving to work .
Do these sound like reasonable compromises for a house that would otherwise be out of our reach price wise or is the walking in the rain, parking, and kids and dogwalkers constantly passing by going to do my head in?
I'd go with the detatched house too, most certainly. A bike will get you to the station sharpish.
I walk a mile to the station at the start and end of every day. I quite like it, I much prefer it to driving. Get yourself decent weatherproof clothes and you will be fine. I'd go for it!
A mile is an easy enough walk for most people, and the exercise will keep you fit.
Think I'd actually prefer to walk.
2 miles a day will keep you nice and fit.
Sorry, I do wonder if the weather will defeat you if You need to be very smart and if it can be very wet. I guess see how it goes.
Go for the detached house.
I commute by train daily. Although I'm a 6 min walk from the station my end, at the other it is a mile to my work. It goes really quickly, keeps me fit and the fresh air wakes me up in the morning. I used to cycle it, but found it was too quick!
Proper warm and waterproof coat is essential. Some days I wear waterproof trousers & wellies too.
Personally I'd rather have a smaller house in a better area than a bigger house in a worse area. Having said that a mile is nothing and as long you have the right clothes you'll be fine...what's that quote about "there's no such thing as bad weather, just the wrong clothes"?
I think any longer than 10-15 min walk is too far for us. We couldn't walk a mile in that time so only look for houses .5 miles from the station. However, if you are happy to do it then go for it. We'd compromise on the Semi tho as walking in the rain and then sitting on a train and getting to work damp and sweaty for months on end is utterly miserable (we have done it which is why we wouldn't again).
The station thing wouldn't bother me but I agree that I'd go for the better area over the bigger house, if it were my decision.
if you are able-bodied and without toddlers you should be able to walk a flattish mile in 15 mins without getting sweaty. As you note, wear sensible clothing and keep the other stuff at the office.
you'll keep fit too.
OH walks over a mile to the station every day, which is why he is trim and fit despite being old and crumpled. Decent clothing and footwear.
Thanks, all. Getting fit sounds very appealing - hadn't realised a walk rather than a run or something would have that effect so I'm pleased about that. Plus being in a desk job I do think I need to be more active. Any specific recommendations on rainwear would be brilliant, too!
Would the semi necessarily be smaller than the detached? I would definitely prefer a semi or slightly smaller house in a better area.
You don't say whether you intend to have children in the future. A mile to the station doesn't sound far but it could be a pain if you have children to drop off at nursery etc. Also consider whether the detached house is in catchment for good schools etc.
A mile is close. Most can walk that in 15 mins, especially if everyday
Go for it. You might even get your own dog one day.......
The walk wouldn't put me off but the parking would.
would choose the detached house! it's healthy to walk a mile anyway ;)
The mile walk to the station wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
You say it's in a less posh area. The only thing I'd look into is the catchment for schools as you may find this accounts for the price difference.
Personally, I much prefer living in a detached house (or bungalow in our case). I'm very sensitive to noise and have always found semi-detached properties and flats stressful to live in. Now we have children I really value a detached property as you don't have to worry about babies crying/early rising toddlers etc annoying the neighbours.
Sounds great, I'd go for it.
A mile walk is nothing, even in wet weather.
The OP didn't say the other house was in a better area, she said this one is in a less posh area and those are two different things.
well i must confess i don't know exactly what a mile is. But when dh and i were looking at houses a lot said the journey to the station was .7 miles. So we walked it and still weren't there after 20 mins. We are both fit and i walk very fast and have a long stride (dh is a bit of an ambler tho) and it wasn't possible for me. I suspect the measurements may have been taken as the crow flies tho so navigating streets and crossing big roads probably added distance.
Can you get a slightly earlier train and then get changed at work?
Theoretically I'd have no problem with a mile walk. But as well as looking smart, I have to lug laptop as well, and that makes a huge difference to what I'm willing to consider.
I think that regularly having your drive blocked by other people's cars would soon prove to be very annoying indeed.
I certainly wouldn't want to walk a mile in all weathers to the station so wouldn't consider a house so far away no matter how nice unless I planned to buy a car to drive to the station. A mile's walk in wet weather is nothing. It is to some folk. Me!
Personally, I'd take the house in the better area unless I'd totally fallen in love with the house...it's nice to walk but I don't think I'd like to have to do it everyday when it's freezing and pouring down and I'd just done my hair. But that's just me, some people like going out in all weather's.
The parking thing would annoy me too, even though you don't drive to work, at some point would you not want to drive somewhere and you're blocked in?
Also you don't have children at the moment but are you planning any for the future? What is easy now definitely won't be easy when you have a couple of children in tow.
I walk or bus everywhere as I don't drive and a mile is nothing, I walk nearly three miles to work most days as a way of keeping fit and that includes carrying a laptop in a rucksack. It's fantastic for fitness. I've even walked into work in snow when the buses stopped - it's all about the right clothes/shoes, I've got a good waterproof pair of walking shoes and I can't believe what a difference they make to walking. (By the way my dd can easily walk a mile and has been able to since she was quite young, no car means having to walk)
I'm struggling to think how a mile (or seven tenths of a mile) could be a problem.
I wouldn't use this as a deciding factor.
I have Merrell Ellenwood coat, and whilst expensive, is really smart for work, waterproof with a decent hood.
I would love a walk as part of getting to work, but only if not having to lug a laptop or files.
A mile? One mile? A single mile?
How is that even an issue if it's the house you love? A mile is a mere hop skip and a jump.
My 9 year old & 3 year old walk a mile uphill to school / nursery every morning. Takes 20 mins at most.
I wouldn't discount a house because its a mile from the station in the slightest.
Upgrade if possible to a mac air as laptop so you have Hal the weight to carry
A mile is a hop, a skip and a jump.
But maybe a bit more in smart work clothes and smart work hair in the pouring rain?
I wall three miles to work everyday, admittedly I'm not wearing heels and a power suit but during the really crappy weather I often change shoes/trousers once I get to the office.
I've done the same. A mile or so walk to the station so we can have a slightly bigger, detached house. I too have to dress smartly for work as do most of the people I see on my commute. Definitely invest in some decent waterproofs, coat etc. you can change very quickly at work. Some people take waterproof trousers off on the train (with trousers on underneath of course).
The big thing for me is having a detached house and no sharing of walls with neighbours. Absolute bliss. Go for it.
It's not the walk. It's the clothes. Which is why I suggested getting changed at work.
The OP says And will wear waterproof overtrousers and a raincoat with a good on rainy days.
I'm honestly shocked at the amount of people who think walking a mile to the station is such a big deal.
Do your kids feel the same way about walking?
We moved last year and instead of a central London bus ride to work (and a bus stop a hop skip and jump from my front door) I am now a mile or so from a mainline station. After a few weeks of walking each way (which I did find tiring, although some of that was also getting used to the commute/longer days out of the house) I invested in a bike . I keep smart shoes at work, and cycle in trainers. I lock my helmet up with my bike instead of carrying it on the train/tube. I don't cycle fast enough to work up a sweat or need to change
There are some mornings when I wish it was closer and resent having to do it (e.g. when I'm leaving in the dark and cold and rain wearing over-trousers and a waterproof jacket), but I promised myself that I would make my bike pay for itself in saved car park fees
I'm afraid I don't really do "smart work hair" as my hair always looks a mess walk or no walk . I would consider changing at work but that seems a bit of a faff carrying my clothes, trying to to get them wrinkled and making sure not to forget anything.
We have fallen in love with the house. It's strange as it had been on the market over a year and the vendor dropped the price twice. I think it didn't sell as the rightmove photos were awful and dark and didn't even show or mention the best features of the house (original Victorian features)! But now I keep wondering why no one else wanted the house and its probably the parking issue.
Anyway I do have a bike so that could work I stead of walking but even though the street is supposedly a suggested cycle route it's busy with no cycle lane or anything. Will give it a go though and see.
Thanks again, all, seems that the are some positives to the walk at least. I think there will be compromises with any house but as we are quite noise sensitive detached is a huge bonus.
The OP didn't say the other house was in a better area, she said this one is in a less posh area and those are two different things
Indeed...still worth checking the school catchment areas though, don't you think?
Isn't a mile about 15 minutes average? So the difference would only be about seven.
And you get 30 mins of exercise built in to your day?
I checked the catchment for secondaries and the local school has apparently just gone from ofsted good to excellent! We don't have or plan to have DCs but that should help with resale value I suppose. I also found out there is a new development going in on the other side of the fields. It's massive with 700 new homes! But at least that should maybe bring some amenities like bus services and shops across the playing fields and I don't think it will make parking worse.
Oh God if you've the chance of a detached house go for it! The walk will be fine - I walk 1.5 miles each way to the station for work and I miss the walk if I don't do it, even tho sometimes it's hard if the weather is rough. Do kit yourself out with a decent coat and boots for winter walks, though. Also recommend gloves, umbrella, iPod, small backpack.
To us it also depends on how long the train journey is and how long you walk the other side. An extra 20 min walk on an hours train ride and then 10 mins walk the other side makes a long commute. 20 min walk and a 6 min train ride, not so much.
It's about a 35 minute train ride each way but I don't mind that, I just read on the train. And hardly any walk the other end to get to work- maybe about a minute.
I walk two miles most days, a mile would be 15 minutes for me and I am always amazed at how people think it is far.
Preciousbane I'm with you on the amazement - I walk to school with 2 DCs in tow, it's a mile each way, up a steep hill. It takes 20 minutes dead on to get there, less than 15 minutes to get back. DS has been doing the walk twice daily since he was 3 in all weathers, and all other parents of children in his class seem to view us as the local nutters for doing so.
I'd definitely go for the house OP - I'd love to have a detached! You have to show us a link now ;)
I walk to the station that is a mile down the road every day. Takes me 11 mins max.
Two miles a day is nothing! First world problem....
Could your husband drive you to the station if it's pouring with rain? Could he pick you up if you were knackered?
I'd rather have a house in a nicer area, though, tbh.
Clean black wool trousers in your work drawer, go with everything and solve the problem of getting wet/waterproofs! Or a bike?
I'm just trying to fathom when it got to this stage?
I mean to the stage where people genuinely wouldn't walk just a mile in the rain?
It must have been from the 80s onwards I guess? I think before that, 2 car families were not that common.
Does it have off street parking for at least one car would be my big thing.
Okay i have done some investigation into what a mile is and i am concluding the estate agents were lying ( who knew??) when they said places were .7 miles from the station. I apparently have no problem walking a mile or more, as after some research i realise i used to walk (from Euston to the Strand twice a day which is apparently) 1.9miles in 25 mins. So no i change my earlier post to, no a mile isn't that far
I'm also surprised at people that would worry about walking a mile whatever the weather, good coat and shoes are all you need. 15 minutes of exercise. My mother is a trim 8st 4lbs and has been for years as she probably walks at least 2 miles a day. She's never jogged or gone to the gym but the regular walking and of course watching what she eats to an extent has kept her fit and slim. Go for the detached if it's long term. People parking in front of your drive could be stressful.
A mile is nothing, if you've no health problems. Less than 20 mins walk.
I currently live about a 30 minute walk from work (around 3 miles). Decent pair of boots to see you through the winter, and a reasonably sensible coat and you'll be absolutely fine. I've only ever needed to change at work when it's been snowing, or absolutely tipping it down with rain.
The short walk is a good thing, OP, if that house is definitely what you want. I know lots of people regularly getting off trains and buses a stop or two early in order to build a walk into their working day.
Even if you are not able bodied, you can get a scooter or if with toddlers buggyboard if they still do them, it doesn't sound that far. I would go for the detached house in your situation.
A mile is obviously nothing of a walk to anyone in good health. But if you need to be very smart for work you do have to plan a bit. Particularly if you have a smart going to work hairstyle.
I second Holidaysarefab with the store a change if clothes at work just incase.
I have been splashed by a car and been soaked through to the skin before. I was seen hugging a radiator for 39 minutes in the hope my pants dried before my class turned up.
I live a mile from the station, on mat leave now but at no point in commuting in the last 4 years have I needed to change at work! You need flat boots for winter, flat shoes for summer, a coat that's knee length and an umbrella. I do the walk to the station in 15 minutes, less if I'm running late.
I'm a little shocked people would drive a mile regularly. I guess I've been a commuter for too long that anything below 30 minutes walk seems just normal walking distance!
I love walking, so it wouldn't bother me in terms of distance, and I too have that Merrell coat and it's great. The only thing that might put me off, is walking alone, in the dark, every evening in the winter. But then I have become a bit of a wuss since I left the city several years ago. I definitely prefer cycling if I go out in the evening.
And FWIW, I would always choose location over house.
I'd go with the detached house and the walk. 2 miles a day is enough to keep you fit and the walk home will clear your head after a busy day.
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Help, god no! sorry that was meant to say about 2 miles, not 3! I am a speedy walker, but not that speedy
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I walk 1.3m to nursery, pushing a double buggy with 2yo twins in, more than my own body weight, then another 0.5m to the station to get to work, every day, whatever the weather. Have to wear very smart clothes to work too. Unless there is a physical reason then 1 mile shouldn't cause a problem.
I've managed to walk at just under 8kph (about 5mph?) on a treadmill, but only for a few minutes, before it felt like my legs would fly off.
Do you expect to move house again in next 10 years or so or do you expect to be in this house for many many years?
Best advice we were given when we had two houses to choose from was to go with the one in the better location. We knew we would be in the house less than 10 years. In our case we went for a smaller semi detached over a much larger detached house.
I think it seems fine, and actually the walk to work is great to clear your head, do some thinking and enjoy the fresh air and exercise.
I've done it before and used to keep a jersey dress, tights and shoes (and a few toiletries) at work so that on the odd occasions when I got there wet/sweaty I knew I could change quickly.
I used to walk about 2.5 miles every morning - I could do it in less time than it took to catch the bus on a wet morning. You need good shoes.
A mile is nothing for the average adult. Don't do it in your work shoes, but mainly because you'll knacker them more quickly. Pair of trainers or flat shoes, sorted.
Make up bag / hair brush or whatever's needed for a quick touch up in the office if your work requires you to be very well groomed. In City of London I even had some colleagues (with horrific commutes) who had straighteners in their drawers although I think that's maybe taking it to extremes.
I'd always go for a detached house unless the semi is very large and the living areas aren't near the common wall.
Tbh I'd be more worried about the parking and the potential for dogs hit from what you describe in your OP.
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Yes, for the avoidance of doubt, no-one is hitting dogs! I live in an area popular with dog walkers and dogshit is an issue
I can't believe healthy able bodied adults are baulking at walking a mile. I would be embarrassed to admit that on a public forum.
I'd really value a detached house over a semi, put it down as a massive + point. That's what would sway me.
I walked about that distance to my train for work for 5 years. Trainers in summer, boots in winter, umbrella, waterproof coat and trousers, and I used to keep a spare pair of socks and tights at work cos there is nothing worse than wet feet if you step in a huge puddle. Makeup got done on the train.
I quickly put on weight when I moved, because I wasn't getting that exercise automatically built into my day. Occasionally it was a pain due to rain or snow, but usually I just enjoyed the me time.
I don't have any problem walking a mile, to clarify. I just finished couch to 5k in fact so can even run 5 kilometres which is about 3 miles. It's more the walking in the pouring rain and wind and sleet in business clothes. However thanks to all the tips I'll be keeping spare shoes and trousers at work, wearing proper walking shoes, etc. I'm quite looking forward to it now in a way. I thought I would have to keep running to get and stay fit but if just the walk will do it I'm all for it.
As for dog poo, yes I think it will be an issue but mostly will I hope be confined to the park rather than the pavement outside of ours. On the plus side I do like dogs but can't have one as DH is allergic so it will be at least nice to see them playing in the park. I think the poo won't bother me too much as I'll just have to be careful where I step!
I think the biggest issue will be car parking. Eventually we may be able to remove part of the wall in front of the house and ask the council to extend the dropped kerb so we could have a drive with space for two cars. Also we could ask the council to paint a white line by the dropped kerb we already do have (parking space space for one car) to try to get people to stop parking there. Or maybe one they see someone is using that drive they'll stop doing it anyway - fingers crossed.
We all value different things when it comes to houses (e.g. I wouldn't care whether it is detached or not and would rather live close to the station, good schools etc). Ultimately you should make a list of what's important to you in order of priority and go for the house which most suits your needs within your budget.
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I would take a minute to seriously consider this before you buy.
The walk is not a problem. But if your DH needs to get to work and someone is ambling up to take a leisurely dog walk by parking across your drive from 7.30 - 9.00 several mornings a week then you are quickly going to see this as a disadvantage.
Read a few parking threads on here to get a sense of how infuriating all this can be...
New house is an 18min brisk walk to station. And I am looking forward to this being a regular part of my life. Used to walk lots before passing driving test and was very very fit. Less so now I am wedded to my car. It helps that the walk is through beautiful rural aspects!
Funnily enough I chose unique house in less posh village over generic house nearer station in neighbouring posher village.
Can you not ask the current owners why people park across the drive? Do the current owners not have a car or somethign?
Anyway if that started happening I would :
a. Put notes on windsceen requesting that it not happen again
b. Put up a big sign saying DRIVEWAY IN USE PLEASE DO NOT OBSTRUCT
c. If necessary take reg numbers and report.
You will not get significantly wetter on a 1 mile walk than you would on a half mile (or third, or quarter) one.
Plenty of people coming and going during the day should deter burglars in the area, too.
The parking thing will drive you demented. We had a garage and a car parking space at our old house with a dropped kerb. People parked in front of it all the time- despite there being lots of other spaces. They didn't care if there was a car there or not. They just didn't notice. Once you're blocked in that's it you are stuck. Reporting it doesn't mean the person comes back any quicker. You would need to park the car for work on the street at night to make sure you get out. If we were going on holiday or anywhere important we would parkone of the cars on the street to be sure we couldn't get blocked in.
Good point about not getting significantly wetter,amiciss.
The current owner parks on the pavement outside the house - her car has been there every time she's been home and we've driven by (god I sound like a creepy stalker or something . But she's a teacher and gets home earlier than DH so will have more of a chance to "stake out" her spot.
Next door has a works van and they tend to park very close to but not quite on the dropped kerb outside the house. Then a dog walker (I assume) is often blocking the drive between the works van and the current owners car. I think it will be up to DH to decide whether to park in the drive and risk getting blocked in or on the street/pavement if he can get a space. He thinks the current owner probably doesn't park in the drive as its narrow and she has difficulty getting past the works van but I suspect it might be through fear of getting blocked in. Although perhaps she has told the dog walkers they can block the drive as she doesn't use it.
My weirdly obsessive mind has clearly now decided to focus itself on the parking rather than the walking- apologies for boring you all with this!
A 15-min mile is quite fast, but 18 mins is easily do-able.
if you wear trousers with heels at work and walking shoes on the journey surely your work trousers will be too long for flat shoes and will trail on the ground?
Snog Just tuck them under, or into boots.
a Bike or even one of those geeky looking adult scooters - I covet them but can't scoot with three unruly boys.
We did a similar thing, although it's a thirty five min walk, and I didn't have to do it every day. Have not regretted it for one min. It's not as posh as the other areas we looked at but it's next to a posher area which we can easily walk to and buying a detached house is one of the best things we've ever done. Granted, we are super sensitive to noise and like our privacy!
A mile is easily doable. Just to give you some reference I do a 1.5 mile walk with two young kids in 30 mins. They are on scooters so I walk quickly as they fly! But that's only 20 min for a mile and it's easy.
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