to just want some STRONG DRUGS

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Coldlightofday Fri 07-Feb-14 21:51:07

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LegoCaltrops Fri 07-Feb-14 21:56:39

Any chance your doctors are open on Saturday mornings?

Back2Basics Fri 07-Feb-14 21:58:55

Go to a OOH place tomorrow.

SconeForAStroll Fri 07-Feb-14 22:00:22

Ooh now.

You need diazepam or tramadol, naproxen and co codamol.

Gentle hugs. I had spinal surgery last week.

ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie Fri 07-Feb-14 22:03:38

You poor poor thing. Second the advice to go to an OOH first thing. Cry if you have to.....

Coldlightofday Fri 07-Feb-14 22:03:47

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SconeForAStroll Fri 07-Feb-14 22:06:21

Out of hours - the surgery should have a contact point for when they aren't open but it doesn't need a&e.

SconeForAStroll Fri 07-Feb-14 22:07:24

In the meantime can you alternate ice and heat? Ie bag of peas and water bottle?

euq8820 Fri 07-Feb-14 22:09:18

Pregalbin is the only thing I found any good for a slipped disc, you do need a prescription for it but if your going to wait make sure it's for the right thing! Do take panadol or the co codamol regularly as the build up in your system can help, OTC Ibuprofen might help until you get to the gp. Google mayo clinic back exercises too, sleep with a pillow between your knees and definitely not on your tummy, use hot water bottles too. Hope your feeling better soon (been there and it does get better!)

Back2Basics Fri 07-Feb-14 22:09:34

The hospital by me has a place open 24/7 for things like this when OOH is shut but it's not a&e. Ring your drs surgery and they will have the number on their answer phone MSG or will put the call through.

Coldlightofday Fri 07-Feb-14 22:10:27

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ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie Fri 07-Feb-14 22:11:01

Ours is at the (not very local) hospital, if we ring the GP surgery the recorded message gives the details. Are you able to drive or can someone get you there?

Coldlightofday Fri 07-Feb-14 22:12:12

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SconeForAStroll Fri 07-Feb-14 22:12:47

I would call 111, they should be able to get in touch with ooh for you.

ushiemama Fri 07-Feb-14 22:13:13

My doctor recommended 2 ibuprofen with 2 paracetamol every 4 hours for my back pain. Codeine doesn't agree with me. I found it helpful to do gentle walking, don't sit for too long as your back will seize up.Hope this is helpful, & you get better soon.

Coldlightofday Fri 07-Feb-14 22:13:37

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Sirzy Fri 07-Feb-14 22:13:49

If uou phone your gps number it should put you through/give you the ooh number.

mousmous Fri 07-Feb-14 22:14:37

sometimes they do. sometimes they do phone consultations and can send a prescription to the nearest 24 hour pharmacy.

Coldlightofday Fri 07-Feb-14 22:20:38

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BoffinMum Fri 07-Feb-14 22:21:23

Solpadeine Max is great for this kind of thing. 4 x a day.
You can also take 600 mg ibuprofen 4 times a day, alternating with the above.
Try a warm bath and some very gentle stretches as soon as you feel able. If you mobilise a little it will start to settle.

VodIsGod Fri 07-Feb-14 22:23:02

Do push harder. Crying helps and is often unavoidable as the pain is terrible. Currently suffering myself and I suspect it's disc problems (I had surgery on a ruptured disc 5 years ago). Back then, even before MRI diagnosis I was prescribed variously cocodamol, Tramadol, diazepam, and given physiotherapy sessions at the local hospital.

When I went to docs 2 weeks ago I was checked and prescribed 30mg codeine/500mg paracetamol. Over the counter is 8mg/500mg. And referred for physio.

It's hard, miserable, terribly painful, and appropriate medication will make it just about bearable.

I hope you get what you need.

NearTheWindmill Fri 07-Feb-14 22:25:46

You can buy Volterol over the counter. They come in packs of 6, 25mcg each tab. You can take three in the morning and three in the evening (the packet doesn't say that but my doctor does because he prescribes the 75mcg (might be 75 mg but it's 75 compared to 25 in the OTC packet). You can also take 50mc three times a day. Paracetamol can be taken with them too. Volterol is anti-inflammatory and it's good to take it straight away for that reason.

The other thing I find really helpful during an acute phase is heated back pads - the sort that you buy in a cardboard box from Boots, packs of two and strap them round your waist.

Unfortunately the volterol and the heated pads are expensive. I think six volterol over the counter are about £7 and that's only one day's worth.

I too would recommend you get yourself to out of hours or your local a&e. My Dr prescribed the volterol because the physio at my local hospital phoned and told him to.

The other thing, if you have the cash is to get yourself to physio sharpish so it can be worked on at the early stage to get everthing out of spasm and to help prevent aching muscles as well as the structural pain.

Poor you - it's unspeakably miserable but I do find the really painful barely able to walk bit tends to ease after about three days.

ushiemama Fri 07-Feb-14 22:27:06

You really are upset, frustrated & angry,this is not helping the pain... so forget the wine, have a hot milky drink & try to get some sleep, hopefully you'll feel better in the morning.Night night.

ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie Fri 07-Feb-14 22:33:14

I can't think of anything worse than being in pain like that. I had labyrinthitis a while back, not painful but I couldn't stand or move without vomiting and falling over. I managed to get my GP on the phone and he offered to drop the prescription round in person (luckily DH left work early to get it). Am quite shocked your GP dealt with this so casually.

BoffinMum Fri 07-Feb-14 22:33:23

Have thought some more about the OOH issue and possible lack of chemists. I think if I was at home with a sleeping toddler I would alternate 600mg ibuprofen (probably 3 of the tablets in a normal pack, check the label) with 500mg paracetemol (2 tablets usually) on a four hourly basis after a hot bath and a nice cup of cocoa. Veerry gently yoga postures on all fours will start to loosen it off, as will pose of a child.

If you have silky pjs, wear them in bed in case it all seizes up in bed while you try to turn over. Silky pjs will help a lot.

If you are in an urban area that does private OOH services, a Voltarol injection would work wonders, if someone was prepared to a house call. But it will cost you.

BoffinMum Fri 07-Feb-14 22:35:19

Also on pain management courses they recommend relaxation exercises, for example the kind you download onto an iPhone of whatever.

livelablove Fri 07-Feb-14 22:39:00

I got a visit when my back went, but it was so bad I just could not walk. I rang 111 at about 10pm as pain was becoming unbearable. They connected me with a doctor and this doctor arranged a locum to visit but no-one came and had to ring 111 again. Eventually a doctor arrived at about 5am. This doctor gave me an injection but it only helped a bit, still couldn't get up. Dh had to go and fetch my prescription from the chemist next day also, so I did not get anything but the injection right away.

CocoCha Fri 07-Feb-14 22:39:31

Double your codeine by taking 2 neurofen plus with 2 cocodamol.

Vintagecakeisstillnice Fri 07-Feb-14 23:05:06

Ha ha ha OTC for a ruptured disc, he's fucking taking the piss. I'm awaiting surgery and was discharged fron the hospital on morphine…

I appreciate with a small child you at not want to be on something that heavy but you also need to be able to function.

Tramadol is good as is any of the anti-inflammatories (always take with food).

You need to insist on better pain control.

BooSurprise Sat 08-Feb-14 07:39:05

Completely agree you need better pain control than you currently have, and this can be sorted via 111 and the OOH GP service, however that works in your area. Please do not try to self medicate by taking extra doses of OTC medications that others have suggested.
All medications have side effects and are only suitable to be sold OTC in lower doses, for many reasons. Unless someone knows your medical history then going on random advice from the internet can be quite dangerous.
For example NSAID can trigger asthma attacks and higher dose volterol (diclonfenac) can give you stomach ulcers, that is why medications are prescribed by those who can discuss your history or examine you.
The OOH service should have provision for a home visit if you can't get to the centre, even if this is a nurse practitioner, who could also prescribe some appropriate pain relief.

Vintagecakeisstillnice Sat 08-Feb-14 09:41:45

How are you doing this am?

LongTimeLurking Sat 08-Feb-14 11:21:10

You could try and get some Nurofen Plus (ibuprofen + 15mg Codeine) OTC to take on top of your OTC co-codamol. This would give you a double dose of codeine to keep you going until you can see the doctor.

LongTimeLurking Sat 08-Feb-14 11:23:15

OTC pain killers for a ruptured disc is taking the piss. Even a regular back strain can be so painful and require strong pain killers for a couple of weeks until it settles.

Whatfun Sat 08-Feb-14 11:30:03

I have 2 blown discs so I do empathise. It is excruciating. I am working my way up the painkillers. I am currently on morphine patches. They are stating to work- a bit
I also tried Gabapentin but that sent me completely bonkers. I went to see my Gp whilst on maximum dose. I couldn't get any words out so I just giggled.
I went to see a spinal physio on Thursday. She was absolutely fantastic. She said to use ice packs when it's bad.
I hope your heals very quickly.

How are you doing today?

Vintagecakeisstillnice Sat 08-Feb-14 11:51:27

Gabapentine did nothing for me pain wise but was a bugger to come off. However one of my friends swears by it.

Different strokes etc. . .

I cycle ice packs you can buy reusable ones very cheaply on eBay/ net and disposable ones. I have a few at work for bad days. They're not cheap, but bloody worth it. Bit like these

Personally I think the biggest issue with back pain is unless you've had it bad and for a length of time it's easy to underestimate how debilitating it is. After all most of us have a twinge now and then.
And it's hidden. Yes I look fine, clean, dressed nice, bit of make up.

But it's taken me 5hours to get to this point, having a shower (can't have a bath, wouldn't be able to get up/out) but just standing in the shower means lying down for an hour afterwards. . .

And on a good day, when you can get out of the house you can bet a million that you'll bump in to your most judgy cat bummed face 'friend'. The fact that 20 minutes in Tesco will leave me struggling for the next two days is ignored.

Sorry this has become a bit of a personal vent here blush.

Anyway hope you're feeling better.

livelablove Sat 08-Feb-14 12:16:50

Gabapentin is more helpful for nerve pain, like sciatica or damaged nerve. Another thing is Amytriptaline that will help with muscle spasms but it is also very strong and some people can't take it.

There is a thread on general health topic called the back story where people with back problems can chat. All levels of back problems welcome, but most are pretty serious.

plutarch14 Sat 08-Feb-14 12:19:52

Get soluble co-codamol. It goes into your bloodstream quicker than the tablets [voice of experience]
Can get otc.

Coldlightofday Sat 08-Feb-14 12:27:34

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livelablove Sat 08-Feb-14 12:31:12

That's good cold are you sure you can't afford a taxi? Good luck and I hope they give you a lot of drugs!

Coldlightofday Sat 08-Feb-14 12:38:56

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livelablove Sat 08-Feb-14 12:48:30

Haha probably in too much pain to think. I know they are expensive but I think it would be worth it.

ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie Sat 08-Feb-14 16:02:05

vintage I'm sorry that's happened to you (I mean people being disbelieving), that's really rough. I've never had bad back pain but it sounds like the sort of thing that you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy.

ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie Sat 08-Feb-14 16:03:01

Good luck OP, let us know how you get on.

StarJumpAlertTakeCover Sat 08-Feb-14 16:24:42

Wow Boffin that's way too much ibuprofen. It's very easy to over do it with this kind of pain and when mixing different drugs.

Vintagecakeisstillnice Sat 08-Feb-14 16:45:53

Thanks Shred.

It's just if you whinge you're being a drama lama, if you try to be upbeat, well you can't really be that bad.

Buggered either way.

And to put my feminist hat on women are expected to soldier on more so if you have kids.

Anyway OP any joy?

Coldlightofday Sat 08-Feb-14 17:33:09

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NearTheWindmill Sat 08-Feb-14 17:38:49

Oh love

ValenciaOrange Sat 08-Feb-14 17:46:23

Have you tried Paramol. Its paracetamol and dihydro-codeine. The pharmacist told me it is the strongest OTC painkiller available.

Vintagecakeisstillnice Sat 08-Feb-14 18:11:13

Oh sweetheart, I know it doesn't help but sorry.
Is there anyone who can help?

Sadly I think this is going to have to be a pester thing.
Please if you can go back again. Use non emotional phrases. Don't be brave, most of us try to be.

TMI alert what got it through to my GP was stating that (a) even though I had the urge to poo sitting von the loo for any time at all was too painful. (B) And the same went for sex the libido was still there(occasionally ) but no position was possible. Saying it really hurts doesn't help. You need to say I can not do…
Sit on loo
Pick up little one
Stand long enough to fry an egg/ boil pasta etc.

Yes drug seekers use back pain as it's hard to prove/ disprove but that doesn't mean they have the right to treat all as drug seekers.

Push back.

Whatfun Sat 08-Feb-14 18:25:27

I had this with medical professional not understanding how bloody painful it is.
I went to see Consultant and told him in no uncertain terms how painful it was. I said it was up there with childbirth. I told him I couldn't walk for more than 2 minutes without my back going into spasm. He told me to go for a long walk to keep my weight down.

Caboodle Sat 08-Feb-14 19:56:04

That is ridiculous and makes me want to swear on your behalf. Fuck it - go to a+e (awaits shock / horror response from mnetters).

livelablove Sat 08-Feb-14 20:04:12

My only reason for not going to A&E is the difficulty and discomfort, but you really need to see a better doctor. If you have been diagnosed with a ruptured disc then I can't see the problem with giving you appropriate drugs.

WelshMoth Sat 08-Feb-14 20:12:33

That's pretty shoddy pain management by your GP - at the very least you should be having a ste 2 opioid like those mentioned above (Co-cod, tramadol etc).

Do you have any elderly relatives, neighbours, friends that you could ask?
Co-codamol is cheap as chips and was at one point (not so sure now) prescribed quite freely to the elderly. Chances are, you may know someone with a supply. You'll need at least a 30/500 because OTC stuff isn't any stronger than 8/500.

OOH is out of hours. Ring your normal surgery to get a OOH number. See them tomorrow.

Omfg sad what a wanker of a GP

Please, get to your own GP immediately on Monday. Alternatively, and I wouldn't normally say this, get to A&E. It may not be an accident bu it is an emergency

Coldlightofday Sat 08-Feb-14 20:22:23

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BoffinMum Sat 08-Feb-14 20:30:04

No StarJump, that's the maximum dose (see patient information leaflet). It's also prescribed to reduce menstrual flow at this dose. The tablets that are sold OTC are usually 200mg and you normally take 2 of them, but it is OK to take 3 unless you have a stomach ulcer or similar problem (in fact if you have stomach problems then ibuprofen and aspirin are a bad idea anyway).

livelablove Sat 08-Feb-14 20:50:55

Yes it is terrible. I am surprised he would diagnose a ruptured disc then tell you get OTC meds. I was given 60mg codiene for my sciatica with 500mg naproxen twice a day. Also i had diazapam at first. And they gave me a months supply in one prescription. I am sure you should get something similar.

Coldlightofday Sat 08-Feb-14 20:57:26

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livelablove Sat 08-Feb-14 21:14:52

Yes it is rubbish. How are you doing now?

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WelshMaenad Sat 08-Feb-14 22:24:22

You poor thing. I have suffered with intermittent back pain but luckily have brilliant GP surgery staff who will get my dr to sign prescriptions for a selection if pain meds without an appoibtnent if I have a flare up.

I had rheumatic fever last year accompanied by horrendous joint pain and I found a combination of co codamol and naproxen really good. My combo was prescribed do obviously stronger but you can buy Naproxen over the counter branded as feminax ultra.

StarJumpAlertTakeCover Sun 09-Feb-14 00:09:08

Boffin! Max dose of ibuprofen is 400 mgs no less than 4 hourly, no more than three doses (1.2g) in 24 hours. By your reckoning she would be having 3.6g! shock shock shock

SpinDoctorofAethelred Sun 09-Feb-14 01:15:54

4x 600mg is 2400mg. Which is the maximum ibuprofen dose according to this sheet.

Probably should be careful with it though. Reading instructions isn't the same as advice from someone qualified.

SpinDoctorofAethelred Sun 09-Feb-14 01:17:11
bbcessex Sun 09-Feb-14 01:19:12

I don't know how the GP.diagnosed a ruptured disc? I had to have an MRI to.diagnose mine.. sounds like your GP is a bit lax

Either way, even.if its a bulging disc (which it may be) it is very, very painful and debilitating, so I sympathise hugely.

Tramadol, combined with paracetamol and ibuprofen. Was the only thing.that only touched my pain before surgery... Iost nearly 2 stone in.1 month from not being able or move ..or sleep..

Speak to the pharmacist about the best OTC combos you can take, and if necessary, go to A & E.. it is bloody awful pain..worse than.labour for me. So very good luckxxc

SpinDoctorofAethelred Sun 09-Feb-14 01:22:18

<very gentle hugs for OP>

I had something probably far less painful recently and 400mg ibuprofen didn't touch it. 600mg did. But in the interests of full disclosure, my vomit did turn slightly pink after a couple of days, and the nurse told me to stick to cocodamol from then on, in case it was stomach bleeding.

Whathaveiforgottentoday Sun 09-Feb-14 02:14:35

Mucdh sympathy and hope you get prescribed something stronger soon. I heard someone once describe prescribing paracetomol for a herniated disc as about as much good as a plaster on a broken leg.
I'd personally recommend diazapan for short term relief as its calms down the muscles pretty quickly. I took naproxen and Co-codomal 30/500 at maximum dosages to keep the pain at a manageable level. DH took tramodol for his back but I didn't personally get on with them.
However, I did notice the side effects of the drugs long term and would look to alternatives if it ever gets as bad again (my back was operated on and has been a lot better since).

BoffinMum Sun 09-Feb-14 08:07:16

Patient Information Sheets are the way forward if ever in doubt about maximum dosage.

The 600mg ibuprofen tablets are pink, and are available on prescription only. You can only take one of them at a time.

StarJumpAlertTakeCover Sun 09-Feb-14 21:16:48
I am qualified. And this is the OTC dose unless you have a prescription. And I wouldn't take more than this without a consultation and a PPI such as omeprazole and lansoprazole. The data sheet added earlier on the was out of date. And the NHS website only stated they existed, which we know they do, but not safe doseage.
Scares me on here how people advise without qualification and knowledge or if they have them and still advise I'm gobsmacked. Sorry.

NearTheWindmill Sun 09-Feb-14 21:27:05

starjump. it is a concern but don't you think it would be avoided if people got good and up to date advice from the professionals in the first place?

mycupoffucksrunnethempty Sun 09-Feb-14 21:30:57

Where in the country are you ? Perhaps someone could lend you some codeine or tramadol- usual precautions of course.

BoffinMum Sun 09-Feb-14 22:18:44

That's a NHS direct fact sheet you linked to. It is not the official Patient Information Leaflet produced by the manufacturer, Dalkeith Laboratories, which by law must appear in every box.

Patient Information Leaflet

BoffinMum Sun 09-Feb-14 22:21:25

I would add that I question the value of taking something like Omeprazole if the OP is only going to be on 600mg ibuprofen until Monday. It is not usually prescribed for short term use. If you were qualified you would know this.

schlurplethepurple Sun 09-Feb-14 22:31:54

Are you qualified boffinmum?

Taking max strength ibuprofen even in the short term could cause a touch of gastritis (especially with alcohol as the OP said she was having earlier on in the thread) so a low dose PPI wouldn't be totally wrong, especially as most people with common sense would realise even if the OP was given a different medication on monday ( such as high strength co-codamol or tramadol) it would make sense to continue with an anti inflammatory too. Gastritis etc is also a side effect of tramadol so a low dose PPI could again be a reasonable suggestion if that were to be prescribed.

OP, I suggest a short course of diazepam, stick with the 30/500 co-codamol and an anti inflammatory like ibuprofen or naproxen. Keep moving about as much as you can bear. It will take some time to improve even with these remedies but at least it should be reasonably bearable. Good luck.

StarJumpAlertTakeCover Sun 09-Feb-14 22:32:17

Rubbish. Standard to protect from a gastric bleed. And often taken short term orally and even given IV to protect the gastric lining. Gracious me this is ridiculous.

Boffinmum I'm sorry but that advice is potentially very, very dangerous shock

If you are prescribed and are taking non steroidal anti inflammatory drugs then it is standard to have gastric protection. Even if it is short term.

Note: I am not qualified, but I have taken enough NSAIDs over the years to know this is fact (obviously unless there is a contraindication that says you shouldn't)

WelshMaenad Sun 09-Feb-14 23:13:57

Anyway - OP, any update? How are you feeling flower?

Piscivorus Sun 09-Feb-14 23:35:09

I went to a training event recently where I'm sure they said gastric bleeds are far more likely to happen in the first couple of weeks of treatment with NSAIDs than at any other time so this is the time a PPI is more needed than at any other time.

I'm sorry you are in pain OP but it would be irresponsible to suggest you took any more than the recommended OTC dose of an anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen along with the Co-Codamol prescribed. Your GP has given you crap advice but adding a bleeding ulcer to the pain is not the best way to go forward.

Unfortunately walk-in centres deal regularly with people trying to get codeine containing painkillers inappropriately and that does affect people like yourself who are in real need.

livelablove Mon 10-Feb-14 01:02:11

Its terrible that someone is left in severe pain for two days on the off chance that they are trying to get codeine inappropriately. They should have taken the chance and given her enough to keep her comfortable until she can see her GP. Even if someone was trying to get codeine this way it would only be a small amount if they gave her a short course to last until she can see the GP. They could certainly have added an anti inflammatory without worrying about that issue.

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ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie Mon 10-Feb-14 15:31:04

How did you get on OP?

Meerkatwhiskers Mon 10-Feb-14 16:06:19

I'm almost qualified and agree that a ppi should be given with high dose NSAID's as a precautionary measure. If you were an inpatient and were being given 400mg ibuprofen you would be given omeprazole automatically where I work. Ps our 400mg ibuprofen are also pink and there are all kinds off suppliers so that statement is bollocks too.

I'm not yet qualified and even if I was would not comment on dosages on over the counter medication, unless the poster was taking more than the recommended dosage of paracetamol a day (which is actually a drug you really need to be careful with) or they were thinking of following someone's ridiculous advice on ibuprofen consumption.

Go back to your gp and get them to look into pain relief again. I had sacroiliitis and took a while to get the right pain relief (naproxen was my friend!) which took a consultant to prescribe too.

livelablove Mon 10-Feb-14 18:47:11

Hope you got something to help you a bit more today coldlight. It sounds hopeful that you are more mobile than last time. It will still take a while to recover but being able to do physio exercises will help you recover more quickly. Did you get referred to a physio? If not I think you should be, my physio team is one where you get the number from the g.p then call yourself and they decide whether you need to see someone (probably) or just give you exercises.

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livelablove Mon 10-Feb-14 20:12:43

Hooray! That's great. Yes go to physio. They can give you massage and things as well as exercises. And good to revise your exercises and be sure you are doing them correctly.

NearTheWindmill Mon 10-Feb-14 20:25:28

Am so pleased.

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PavlovtheCat Mon 10-Feb-14 20:33:58

I just knew when I read the title it was going to be your back! Bad backs definitely have a tendancy to make people need strong painkillers!

I am so sorry you have been left in pain for so long, but glad you finally have a doc who has a clue. I hope it feels better soon and you don't have significant long term pain from it. disc problems are horrendous.

I spoke to OOH the first time my back 'went', diagnosed at that time as 'mechanical pain/muscular' over the phone! I was given 30/500. Next time, spoke to different doc, was given 30mg codeine straight, told to take 2 x 30, with paracetamol seperately, AND some 2mg diazepam. it's so inconsistent. Both times were over the phone. The second time helped more, as the diazepam sorted out the muscle spasms quicker.

PavlovtheCat Mon 10-Feb-14 20:38:18

and also, re omeprazole etc, I was on NSAID for 6 months or so before a pharmacist friend questioned why I had not been prescribed it. So, it is certainly not standard practice to get it prescribed for short term NSAID prescriptions, whether or not it should be. I had to ask my GP for it, and he seemed surprised I had asked, but didn't disagree that I should have it, and since then (a long time) he always asks me if I need more, and does blood test from time to time to check kidney function (only have one) and whatever else needs checking.

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livelablove Mon 10-Feb-14 20:49:03

Hi Pavlov <waves> that's what I thought when I saw the thread title too, i bet it's a back problem.

ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie Mon 10-Feb-14 20:52:08

Glad things are on their way to improving OP smile

PavlovtheCat Mon 10-Feb-14 20:53:00

<live> we need to poach cold over to our thread grin

I didn't even speak to them. There was another time I phoned OOH and asked for diazepam. It was a Sunday, and he gave me a lecture about how often people use diazepam to 'come down' on a sunday and it was not usual to give them out via OOH. However, we then had a chat about the exact issues with my back and he had the same problem, same disc! so he gave me 4 to last me til I saw my GP. I am clearly just a good blagger grin

PavlovtheCat Mon 10-Feb-14 20:54:24

I didn't even see them, only spoke to them that should have said. If they hadn't spoken to me, but prescribed, that would be awesome!

PavlovtheCat Mon 10-Feb-14 20:56:37

the reason I think we knew live is that 1) back problems usually mean high level painkillers are needed and 2) the medical professionals and others tend to minimise the level of pain experienced and thus don't prescribe the right drugs unless you appear weeping in a heap on the floor of their surgery.

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PavlovtheCat Mon 10-Feb-14 21:10:40

grin you must try harder - You were not dramatic enough. It's not enough to BE in pain, you have to have an oscar for showing it in the Correct Manner and to someone who gives a shit

livelablove Mon 10-Feb-14 21:12:43

The first GP I spoke to was very dismissive even though I couldn't get out of bed. He did prescribe me some codeine at least though.
Cold you should come on the back pain chat thread as Pavlov all kinds of back pain welcome. Its quite busy I think as there are quite a few sufferers on here and we spend a lot of time lying down resting our backs. Thank god for this smartphone so I can chat while lying down.

NearTheWindmill Mon 10-Feb-14 21:21:36

I'm glad you have some relief now. Sends virtual pearls and twinset across internet.

Tries to find inner rock chick but just can't do it grin.

Hello Pavlov. How's the neck bearing up?

Back pain is an utter bastard - absolutely debilitating. Mine has never been the same since a posterior birth.

The position where there is the least pressure in the disks is lying on your back with your legs up with your hips and knees at 90 degrees. So lie on floor with legs up on a coffee table or similar.

Coldlightofday Mon 10-Feb-14 21:36:00

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NearTheWindmill Mon 10-Feb-14 21:37:13

LOL smile

livelablove Mon 10-Feb-14 22:13:07


Don't forget your court shoes grin

Vintagecakeisstillnice Tue 11-Feb-14 19:56:11

So glad to hear your feeling a bit better and getting some decent pain control!

Push for the physio, and a scan/ MRI.

I was tempted to cancel my last scan as I was having a good week, showed some serious changes that meant a big change in my management. Not trying to scaremonger but in the same way you can get used to pain killers you can learn to minimise pain.

I'm bladdering on arent I?

pure dihydrocodeine is your friend (but if you start seeing things coming through the skirting board stop taking them for a bit)

- been through discetomy and fusion C5/C6 for exploded disc and cracked vertebrae

Coldlightofday Tue 11-Feb-14 22:37:16

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NearTheWindmill Tue 11-Feb-14 22:44:06

I think you need to get back to the doctors. Hope you get on OK.

livelablove Tue 11-Feb-14 22:59:02

Sorry to hear that, it does sound horrible. Yes do go back to doc if your symptoms change or worsen. I know they said next week but that is if the pain is under control with your pain meds.

PavlovtheCat Tue 11-Feb-14 23:54:54

cold don't lurk. And get your feet off the coffee table <stern voice>

<passes heat pack> you need one of these.

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