AIBU to hate hate hate my hairy chin.

(141 Posts)
ihatemyhairychin Wed 29-Jan-14 13:17:05

Namechanged for this as I'm so embarrassed.

OK - so I am nearly 40 years old, female and have facial hair.

It started about 10 years ago - just the odd black hair on my chin, but now there are bloody loads of them in small patches on my chin and underneath. They are thick & black and not like the little bit of fuzz I get on my upper lip. I shave my chin every morning (and sometimes in the evening too). Can't bear to leave it long enough for waxing or threading.

I paid for laser hair removal about 5 years ago and have had a course on the NHS as well, but they don't seem to have worked.

Do I have to deal with this forever? I can only imagine it getting worse as I get older and that is very depressing. Any other hairy folk out there with any advice?

Only1scoop Wed 29-Jan-14 13:21:56

Worth mentioning to your Dr I think. A friend of mine has been prescribed a cream as hers got quite bad. She also had laser years ago and they came back.
I have a few but get them waxed every 3 weeks.
It's so vile isn't it? I used to go to the salon for lovely facials and massage etc....now it's just a quick nip in to get my slug lip etc waxed....hate being past 40 hmm

gamerchick Wed 29-Jan-14 13:23:52

I have 26 hairs at last count growing on my chin.. It gets worse as you get older. A good pair of tweezers can be satisfying.

dozeydoris Wed 29-Jan-14 13:32:49

I had electrolysis. After first treatment thought wow why hadn't I done this before, but in the end it took months. Had a different beautician at one point and she seemed to set higher strength, left red spots where she had treated me, in the end this worked. Would have saved a lot of time and money if I'd had her to start with. So perhaps try stronger zapping.

LoveWine Wed 29-Jan-14 13:44:19

It could be hormonal - I would speak to your GP and get some tests done.

WipsGlitter Wed 29-Jan-14 13:45:49

First stop shaving - you are making it more noticeable. Can you try plucking or waxing instead?

formerbabe Wed 29-Jan-14 13:45:56

Get it threaded...it is not embarrassing. Some women get their whole face (and neck) done.

WipsGlitter Wed 29-Jan-14 13:46:24

Also, you are not alone. strokes beard

fifi669 Wed 29-Jan-14 13:46:31

My GP said they don't test for hormone imbalances anymore. I've been seeing them about this problem on and off for years. I've bought a IPL machine.....

Dingleinthevillage Wed 29-Jan-14 13:48:38

I want a car rear view mirror in my bathroom. Everyone is plucked but I sit in the car, select reverse, look in the mirror & it's sodding Catweazel driving!!!

Whatisaweekend Wed 29-Jan-14 13:49:44

Did you have laser or IPL though? They are different things and, having had both, I found the IPL did naff all but the laser was excellent. Do people do electrolysis anymore? I don't know much about it but thought that was supposed to be pretty permanent?

rubyflipper Wed 29-Jan-14 13:50:59

Stop shaving, for a start. That is making things worse.

I buy Veet wax strips from the supermarket and do my chin once a fortnight.

JackNoneReacher Wed 29-Jan-14 13:57:03

Agree with whatis.

IPL did nothing for me. Laser changed my life. And the good thing is, the darker and thicker the hair, the more effective the laser is.

It does take a little while, and you may need the odd top up appt.

Oh, and I would stop shaving, be that looks awful.

JackNoneReacher Wed 29-Jan-14 13:58:11

If you want to say whereabouts you are I will tell you if the place I went to is nearby. I would recommend them. Or pm me if you like.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Wed 29-Jan-14 14:43:02

IT probably is hormonal but that doesnt mean that its solvable infact makes it worse..there is no magic pill to take to stop it,

i am amazed some of you go this done on the NHS i have always been told no...its not something they do?

what is difference between laser and ipl and how much is laser.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Wed 29-Jan-14 14:44:45

if its hormonal the issues stimulating growth dont away because you have hairs zapped, however you can take the pill diannette or and face cream and so on, but the problem seems to be once you stop taking these, the hair comes back even worse....the face cream is not on the NHS and costs about 60 quid. I couldnt vouch for its usefulness as never got it.

SolomanDaisy Wed 29-Jan-14 14:46:17

I've had the philips lumea for a month and I am making good progress with it.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Wed 29-Jan-14 14:48:11

jack can you tell us how long it took to get rid of yours, and how much and how much hair.....

Socks555 Wed 29-Jan-14 14:48:51

I'm about the same age (she says!) and have a few hairs on my chin and one on my cheek i need to keep plucking. They grow back so quick and I've a few grey ones that are even thicker than the nasty black one.

I've got about 5 and if I've tried leaving them so I can pick them out in one fowl swoop, but the all grow at different times.

Grrr!

CandyKate Wed 29-Jan-14 14:50:28

Does electrolysis work for blonde hairs? I know that IPL and laser don't work for blonde hair.
Waxing/threading leave with me hundreds of spots. I feel like there is no solution at all for me.

AmberLeaf Wed 29-Jan-14 14:52:06

I get a few, not of beardy proportions though, but thick dark and wirey.

I pluck with tweezers and find it very satisfying. its like a ritual grin

Fakebook Wed 29-Jan-14 14:53:30

Stop shaving. It makes the hairs grow back with blunt ends which makes them seem thicker. Go and get them threaded every 4 weeks, or buy some facial wax strips. I like the cheapo ones from Wilko. I've found them much better than the veet ones and obviously cheaper too.

frogslegs35 Wed 29-Jan-14 14:57:21

www.amazon.co.uk/Facial-Remover-Removal-Epilator-Threading/dp/B00ARAAHWO/ref=pd_sim_d_9

Get these, they're way faster than plucking and work very well. Takes a few mins practice to get it right but once you've got it lots of hairs will be plucked at once.

Socks555 Wed 29-Jan-14 14:59:59

Epilator??

OUch! Tried one on my legs, never again.

littlesquid Wed 29-Jan-14 15:00:08

I almost like mine. Plucking is my hobby smile

NewBeginings Wed 29-Jan-14 15:13:19

I too share you're your pain op, in fact I was thinking about starting a thread on this very subject just this morning.
I am actually envious of people who can count their chin hairs, mine are countless, it's like a proper mini beard. I have tried laser but it didn't work. My hairs are half white and half black.
At the moment I pluck but it doesn't seem to be very effective, every time I look in a different mirror I see more hairs, I just never seem to get them all. And I have really noticeable stubble. I hate it so much.
What is this talk of cream? Is there a cream I can use?
I know waxing and threading are supposed to be effective but don't you have to grow the hair out for that? I just couldn't bear letting it grow.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Wed 29-Jan-14 15:16:47

I was also thinking of thread on this.

the cream is vanquin or something like that,but doing research on that and other things I have not heard of it being successul on its own adn also the problem becoming worse after usage stopping its also about 60 quid.

5Foot5 Wed 29-Jan-14 15:22:29

I pluck too but it is painful and the buggers grow back so quickly. Before you know where you are you have got one nearly half an inch long that wasn't there the night before.

Also isn't is just sod's law that this starts to happen just when the old eyesight is deteriorating so I have to use the magnifying side of the mirror and wear my reading glasses before I can see them well enough to pluck, But I know they are there because I can feel them.

What is a philips lumea?

riskit4abiskit Wed 29-Jan-14 16:10:57

I combine epilator with plucking. Also have many many hairs. It takes up so much of my time. Grrrr

CumberCookie Wed 29-Jan-14 17:08:05

It's nowt to do with being 40+, I'm 24 and I've had this problem for ages! It's horrible.

frogslegs35 Wed 29-Jan-14 17:14:43

Regarding the link I posted earlier - it says epilator but it's more like threading. It's a bit more painful than single hair plucking but that's to be expected as it's removing multiple hairs in one shot.

The Vaniqua cream is rubbish - it irritated and discoloured my skin too.

holidaysarenice Wed 29-Jan-14 17:23:57

Agree with being young - what hormonal issues can be at the bottom of it?

sisterofmercy Wed 29-Jan-14 17:29:29

I have to use one of those daylight lamps to see mine because my flat is so dark. I pluck although I am on a hormone implant at the mo' to see if it helps. I have PCOS.

SolomanDaisy Wed 29-Jan-14 17:42:33

Philips lumea is a home ipl system. I've only had it a month, so can't tell how well it works long term, but I already have a lot less hair.

I have a home electrolysis thingy (tweezers on a flex, that are supposed to zap the hair) - I got it about 10 years ago for about €100.

I realised on a sunny day when reversing the car that there was a bearded lady in the driver's seat!

So I dragged it out of the attic and spent an hour that night tweezing and plucking the worst hairs - and none of the big black ones have grown back.

I've still got some that I need to zap - I think your hair grows on different cycles and I probably missed these the first time. Don't know if they still make the machine thingy, will have a google and will link if I find it. (it was made by Babyliss and I bought it in Boots)

SassySpice Wed 29-Jan-14 17:50:15

I'm the same. Used to pluck, but always ended up with zits and lumps where I'd pulled the hairs out. Tried threading very recently but that didn't get all the hairs out. I've now taken to shaving the two patches every morning blush

Can't find a link to the unit I have, but the reviews of other tweezer electrolysis are crap! I only did mine a few months ago so will reserve judgement on whether it's permanent or not.

Pigeonhouse Wed 29-Jan-14 18:33:01

Soloman, can you say more about the Phillips Lumea? Is that one of the self-IPL ones? How frequently can you use it?

Oblomov Wed 29-Jan-14 18:34:19

I've been having electrolysis for nearly 20 years.
I have had Laser and IPL. Both useless.
I have had all my hormones tested.
Altleast now it is just about bearable.

Electrolysis is the ONLY permanent solution.
I was told IPL or laser, never claimed to be permanent, only a semi-permanent solution.
Not sure if that is correct. But that is what I was told. And makes sense.

But atleast , for gods sake get a home machine, or do some threading or waxing. Please stop shaving. please.

You'll probably think I am nuts, but I noticed my chin hair had been getting worse since I had DD. I was pretty ill the whole way through pregnancy, couldn't lose weight after, bla bla bla. Eventually twigged that I might be insulin resistant and started eating low carb.

Month or so in I realised my chin hairs had buggered off.

Then had to start working away, diet went to pot(atoes!), chin hair came back

I'm a few weeks in to low carbing again and I would swear on my life they are reducing. My leg hair is growing more slowly too

Just worth a mention, it seems to happen for quite a lot of people especially those with PCOS and insulin resistance

Fakebook Wed 29-Jan-14 18:56:54

I've read some really good reviews about the Philips lumea on the Boots page. It apparently works best with dark hair on light skin. I've been thinking about buying it for a few years but have been pregnant or breastfeeding more or less since 2009 so keep putting it off.

Through 3 full term pregnancies I've found that my body hair stops growing. I normally have to wax/shave/thread regularly (every 2 days or so) but every time I've been pregnant I've gone weeks without having to remove the hair. It generally grows slowly and thinner when I'm pregnant. So for me, I know that it's hormonal.

When I was 19 I was prescribed Dianette for acne, and found that my body hair began to disappear in patches, especially my legs. I never took it again because I was afraid of pumping my body with hormones but it made a good difference.

I'm afraid I shave mine, don't see why being female means I have to spread tons of money, pain and inconvenience on fancy zapping methods.

Like Arne 'they'll be back' I can't be arsed to stress about it.

RunRabbit Wed 29-Jan-14 19:05:42

I saw a woman today with a full on moustache. I was in total awe. I'd never have that kind of courage.

I have PCOS. I don't have the skin colour for laser removal and have to pluck every day. Bloody nightmare. angry

Mimishimi Wed 29-Jan-14 19:10:08

You're not the only one. 37 here and same problem although not beard proportions. Ten or so will sprout up overnight. I've never shaved them because apparently it makes it worse (according to MiL). I do notice a lot more when I eat a lot of carbs too.

missmarplestmarymead Wed 29-Jan-14 19:19:04

Please don't shave.

I have my upper lip waxed regularly because I have to and for the ones that sprout out of my chin, I use a Mr Muscleman tweezers (the yellow one, which I think is designed for ingrowing hair) it is quite satisfying to grab a short little blighter, pull it out and find it is about two feet long.

it may be the only upside but an upside nonetheless. Like others, I use the 10x side of the mirror and daylight, even though this reveals more flaws than I like to see.

Anyway, you're not on your own.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Wed 29-Jan-14 19:39:59

I think your correct I can almost feel them growing if I eat comfort foods....

worth a try, I heard dianette was good but if you can keep it up for life great, if you try it and stop it can make things a whole lot worse..

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Wed 29-Jan-14 19:48:23

its so hard to know what to do, some say no to ipl, or laser or electrolisis...

whats the answer

UsedToBeNDP Wed 29-Jan-14 19:49:33

This is like the sporn thread for me. I get about 6 or 7 re growing in exactly the same places once tweezed, totally bizarre. On the one hand, I'd rather not have whiskers. On the other, they are hugely satisfying to pluck.

Glad it's not just me with the carbs!

GarlicReturns Wed 29-Jan-14 20:10:47

Haven't read the whole thread but YANBU and my sympathy.

Doctor says it's not a medical issue. I did have undiagnosed PCOS for decades, though, so that probably hasn't helped.

I wax the fuckers. Still have to tweeze a dozen out every day, though.

As part of my feministy getting to know my own body project, I have let them all hang out a few times. The main point of this was to force myself to get used to it - it's highly unlikely the whole world is fixating on my unconventionally hairy bits, and I needed to get over it. It's helped a lot, actually, as I will never be completely free of lightning-growth chin fronds, so I don't angst about them any more - just try and keep them reasonably suppressed.

If anybody stares at them, they deserve a knee in the nads grin male or female!

ExcuseMeButtingIn Wed 29-Jan-14 20:10:52

Can i just say that the contraption that Frogslegs linked to earlier is absolutely bloody amazing! I would have a full on beard if I left my chin to its own devices, and plucking it takes an age. I bought one of those on a punt a couple of years ago after someone else linked to one on here and its fab! It does take a bit of getting used to, but I wouldn't say it hurts anymore than plucking (though tbf I think I have killed any pain receptors in my chin after plucking for years.)

Seriously its worth a shot and its considerably cheaper than even a decent pair of tweezers

EndoplasmicReticulum Wed 29-Jan-14 20:43:58

I bought one of those epilator stick thingies last week as saw them on here, it's been really good for moustache and beard, I used to wax my moustache but this hurts much less than that.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Wed 29-Jan-14 21:02:12

frogslegs I looked at that link and thought you plicked them with the pink part and thought how can that be...blush.

my worry with something like that, is that normal light hairs will get caught in it, then stimultae them to grow more thickly also.

ihatemyhairychin Wed 29-Jan-14 21:26:59

Thanks for all that - think I'll have a bash with one of those stick epilator thingies (cheers Frogslegs!)

I used to pluck them, but I got convinced that the more I plucked, the more stimulation the area was getting and the more hairs that grew! Also, it took bloody ages.

Might ask for a Philips Lumea for my 40th. Woopdedoo.

HeadfirstThroughTheTimeVortex Wed 29-Jan-14 21:48:12

I get a lot of upper lip hairs and I use an epi-stick.

They are about £2-£3 on amazon, so not expensive. It took me a few minutes and a youtube video to figure out how to use the thing but they are very easy to use. They get every last hair.

HeadfirstThroughTheTimeVortex Wed 29-Jan-14 21:50:08

rain I've been using one for about a year and although it does pull out light hairs I've not noticed any new black hairs.

SolomanDaisy Wed 29-Jan-14 22:16:27

You use the lumea every two weeks for the first two months and then every month after that. I've used it on my face three times now, as I've been doing it slightly more often than recommended. You have to shave before you use it, I normally have my face threaded so I don't like the finish as much at the minute. After 2 - 3 times on different body parts, I'd say I have about 50 per cent less hair. I'm very happy with it so far.

Fakebook Wed 29-Jan-14 22:18:29

SolomonDaisy, what colour is your hair and skin?

Dingleinthevillage Wed 29-Jan-14 22:18:55

Can anyone tell me why they show up more in my rear view mirror than my bathroom mirror?

Fakebook Wed 29-Jan-14 22:25:28

Sorry SolomonDaisy, that sounded rude. Is your skin tone light with dark hair? Are you using the higher setting? I've read that it works better with dark hair. Is this true?

Whizbang Wed 29-Jan-14 22:50:49

Electrolysis!! Works for blondes and brunettes alike, and unlike shaving and plucking, discourages the hair growth...they gradually become thinner and finer and then pretty much stop growing as long as you persevere.

As others have said, shaving is really not helping, and will make it worse. Actually plucking has the same effect over time - encourages growth of more, stronger and thicker hairs.

As you can tell, I've experimented with the solutions (not shaving though!). I'm 38 and first noticed it a few years ago. Attacked with tweezers, but found it was making it worse. It was my lovely mum who tipped me off about electrolysis. I went for 4 sessions - 1 every couple of months, and it made an enormous difference. Costs about £20 for a 15 min session which is all you need. Now I only have to go every six months or so - they are much slower growing and really fine. That's unless I sabotage myself and pluck in the meantime (it's like a guilty pleasure!)...but if I do it's really noticeable that the hair grows back thicker.

You can lick it - just takes a bit of patience, but you really must stop shaving I'm afraid. Best of luck!

SolomanDaisy Wed 29-Jan-14 22:54:46

I do have fairly light skin. My hair is a mix of light brown to black and the lumea seems to be working on both. I use it on level 5 everywhere except my face, for which I use level 4.

SamHamwidge Thu 30-Jan-14 00:55:36

I shave mine. I gave up fighting the buggers and have 0% pain threshold. Shave and it's over and done with in 2.seconds. if I start looking like George Michael circa Faith I'll rethink but it works for me now.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Thu 30-Jan-14 09:57:23

those with hair growth do you feel self conscious in brightly lit places like super markets..and in summer..

good point about getting them all..with that little cintraption

JackNoneReacher Thu 30-Jan-14 12:15:53

rainrain I had about 8 laser sessions at 3 week intervals.

I had loads of hair, if I hadn't have waxed/plucked it would have been a beard.

I could see the difference after about 3 sessions.

Now I have a top up about once a year.

I used to hate overly lit places and felt really self conscious in sunlight. I hadn't realised how much it was affecting my life. I'm so much more confident now.

The downside is that the hairs have to be there in order to be lasered. So the more you can leave to grow to be lasered the better. I didn't do very well at this and I think I probably needed more treatments as a result.

QOD Thu 30-Jan-14 12:22:51
QOD Thu 30-Jan-14 12:25:27

And my lovely mum, knowing how much I hate hate hate my hair got me this for Xmas

www.boots.com/en/Philips-Lumea-Precision-Plus-SC2003-IPL-Hair-Reduction-System-with-Facial-Attachment_1274664/

I've only used it 3 times so far (use it every 2 weeks initially) and it's deffo cut down on the re growth.

I 3rd or 4th what the others say, don't shave!! The instructions on the lumea do say to but no way a, I doing my face.
I shave legs, pits and bikini amd then use, then use the facial one with hair present, I then pluck what's visible and it's certainly less prolific

NewBeginings Thu 30-Jan-14 16:11:10

QOD what do you think of the vaniqua? Is it any good?

riskit4abiskit Thu 30-Jan-14 22:52:45

That lumea thing is four hundred pounds.

Have ordered an epistick instead.

Caitlin17 Thu 30-Jan-14 23:06:08

The epilator stick works well. I've seen them for sale in various European countries but never in shops here.

katese11 Fri 31-Jan-14 00:06:03

YANBU... bloody P C O S angry

WandaGreunda Fri 31-Jan-14 01:54:59

Just de-lurking to say that I have lots of hairs all over my chin and neck. Look like Chewbacca's sister in fact! grin

But we're all normal. I'm a nurse and most women I've looked after have had exactly the same trouble.....seen quite a few beards after ladies have been in bed and tweezer-less for 2 weeks. And that includes women in their 20s. Very few women don't have facial hair it seems. Maybe we should all let it grow like Catweezle? grin

QOD Fri 31-Jan-14 05:05:19

I can't stop using the vaniqa, I don't know anyone if it does any good!! Just twice a day, part of the routine sad

TheNaughtySausage Fri 31-Jan-14 10:04:26

Ditto with the carb-beard here. I think it's something to do with insulin affecting levels of testosterone.

oldgrandmama Fri 31-Jan-14 10:07:10

I'm wondering if it could be hormonal, too? Have you spoken to your GP?

Fakebook Fri 31-Jan-14 11:27:58

I'm intrigued by the carbohydrates affecting hair growth theory. I just googled and found this article. Apparently spearmint tea is also helpful in combatting unwanted hair. I'm going to try it and see if it makes a difference.

GarlicReturns Fri 31-Jan-14 13:15:11

We're all normal. I'm a nurse and most women I've looked after have had exactly the same trouble.....seen quite a few beards after ladies have been in bed and tweezer-less for 2 weeks. And that includes women in their 20s. Very few women don't have facial hair it seems.

thanks thanks thanks

Thank you for this, Wanda!

Must admit I didn't have any beardy chin hairs until my early thirties, though I had a lot of blonde fuzz. It's carried on getting worse - or, I should say, more pronounced - and I've slowly come to realise it is actually normal. It's one of those female features that are always airbrushed out (in RL and certainly in photos!) Result: we think we're abnormal because we rarely see it on other women.

The PCOS may have made mine coarser and blacker than a more girly woman's chin hairs - but hers would be longer and waftier wink

CrabbyWinterBottom Fri 31-Jan-14 13:41:44

I treated myself to one of these IPL devices on Amazon's black friday deals. I got it for £114. I've found it very effective on facial hair so far, I'm thrilled to say.

uneedme Fri 31-Jan-14 13:50:17

Anyone know the name if the cream u get on percsription. I got one beginning with v but never persevered with it

SoleSource Fri 31-Jan-14 13:54:28

Inspired by this thread I have just booked a waxing appointment for 2.30pm today - PCOS cannot be treated by Electrolysis apparently but waxing helps. I went to a salon and was turned away as the hair was too thick...I shall l report back later today. PCOS here too.

£5 neck £5 chin £5 upper lip

poorincashrichinlove Fri 31-Jan-14 13:55:10

Haven't heard about the carbs before. Worth a try...

JackNoneReacher Fri 31-Jan-14 13:59:20

sole no. PCOS can't be 'treated' nor can the growth of new hair be stopped, but laser will permanently reduce the growth of unwanted hair. If the hair is thick and dark it is should respond well.

Waxing obviously removes the hair which is helpful but it is only temporary.

The place I had the laser offers a reduction for PCOS sufferers.

Mumtorobbie Fri 31-Jan-14 14:03:47

There may be something in the carb thing.

I've been low carbing since may but put on a few pounds over xmas. I've noticed a definite increase in my chin hairs but its only just clicked reading this thread.

GarlicReturns Fri 31-Jan-14 14:39:52

You got a good price there, Sole. Hope she's doing a nice job for you smile

Fakebook Fri 31-Jan-14 14:56:45

I've recently wondered if facial and unwanted body hair may be a new thing? My mum never had it and had an absolute hair free body, with soft arms and legs and she had a pretty clean, fresh food diet. The carb thing seems to make more and more sense. I've also heard that fluoride in toothpaste may play a part in facial hair too. I don't know how true that is though.

TarteAuxRiz Fri 31-Jan-14 14:59:36

I have a great device...not sure what it's called but it's like a long spring with plastic bobbles on each end and it kind of mass tweezers your chin. It's bloody brilliant! I'm rushing out now but will try and link to it tonight!

SoleSource Fri 31-Jan-14 20:25:33

Jack thank you for you response, I have had laser treatment but it wasn't effective. I have often wondered if the machine was crap or not. I will PM you Jack

The price was very reasonable Garlic. I also had eyebrow waxing and a tint. The Beautician forgot to charge me I have realised. She only charged me for the waxing.

I need to go back and pay tomorrow don't I?

She waxed the majority of my hairs but needed to pluck too. The sot fluffy hairs are still there as they were too short to wax. I can still feel a few prickles.

I had plucked hundreds ,blush. of hairs before I went today. I'm the Yeti sad

I hate hairs!

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Fri 31-Jan-14 21:56:17

mum you said you noticed an increase, did you mean decrease?

Thanks for the article Fakbook...it also mentions saw pemento, whatever that is?

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Fri 31-Jan-14 21:57:29

tarte i think someone has already linked to this thing you speak of.....looks good.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Fri 31-Jan-14 21:58:19

fluoride in toothpaste?

Also metal cans food is stored in, like soups I have heard has gender bending chemicals.

Rainrain I'm thinking she means she noticed an increase over Christmas when she stopped low carbing?

JackNoneReacher Sat 01-Feb-14 00:24:44

Don't think it's new fakebook. My grandma used to talk about the bearded lady at the circus... (that would be me without laser) but maybe all the refined sugar has made it worse.

I'd have a beard without the tweezers too, Jack. It's qute satisfying, plucking, but I'd rather not have to, obviously. Strangely the plucking is completely pain-free for me.

Dalaimama Sat 01-Feb-14 01:02:00

I always pluck - have about 8 hairs. I can squeeze the little root out too when the black dot appears.(gross I know sorry!) i have a few blonde hairs too but am afraid to pluck in case they grow back black - is this true?

Secondly is electrolysis really permanent? My mum has been having it for 30 years on her chin. Surely this means it is not permanent? My frends are having it 15 or more years - always having to pop back to be zapped. I'd rather pluck than spend money on years of electrolysis.

Mumtorobbie Sat 01-Feb-14 08:06:00

Sorry, yes I did mean that when I low carved I saw a definite decrease in my facial hair.

I also tried the Philips Lumea and wasn't that impressed. In fact I ended up selling it on eBay.

It was good on leg hair but totally ineffective on facial hair probably because mine is a result of PCOS.

Mumtorobbie Sat 01-Feb-14 08:08:05

Low carbed even!

fifi669 Sat 01-Feb-14 09:16:14

I've just read up about the spearmint tea and it really is recommended. Might have to stock up

RainYourRottingMyDhaliaBulbs Sat 01-Feb-14 13:37:05

so...spearmint tea, saw pimento and low carbing for us PCOS ladies!

LEMmingaround Sat 01-Feb-14 14:03:07

Thankyou for this thread - i sometimes feel like a bearded freak blushsad I am really self concious about it - i made the mistake of shaving both my chin and upper lip so use more razors than dp now sad Then its like bum fluff on the rest of my face - and i get tricked too, one mirror doesn't show and i don't think it looks that bad but then i look in the bathroom mirror or a mirror in a pub/resturant and i look unclean sad It really affects my non-existent confidence and i feel that other people judge me on it.

I have tried those wax strips but i need loads, yet the wax strips for legs specify not to use on face, i did try some once, they were £1 at the chemist on some sort of clearance and i nearly ripped the side of my face off so i don't know if it was becaue they were old or because you genuinely shouln;t use on your face but those strips are shit. i did manage with a product from veet - some wax in a little tube that you heat in a cup of hot water, then use the little strips they give you - those are too small so i use pages from magazines hmm works just as well. But they seem to have stopped making it.

I hate hate hate it

fifi669 Sat 01-Feb-14 14:22:13

I always use the legs ones then chop them to size. I haven't had an problems. A lot cheaper that way too.

LEMmingaround Sat 01-Feb-14 14:27:26

Thats good to know fifi - perhaps i just bought a duff pack - what make do you use?

Only1scoop Sat 01-Feb-14 14:30:57

So chuffed....posted on this thread the other day.
I now see I'm not the only bearded lady sporting a Marcel Marceau that I have to get sorted grin

smugmumofboys Sat 01-Feb-14 14:32:26

I'm 45 and was a bit like you a few years ago. I've been having electrolysis and, although it takes ages, it has worked. I now only have a few diehard whiskers left.

Fakebook Sat 01-Feb-14 21:18:58

You can buy Saw Palmetto from Holland and Barratt. Not recommended for women breastfeeding though. Dammit.

I'm 31 and have been prescribed the vanquia cream, it's ok but has given my terrible hard headless boils sad

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Sat 01-Feb-14 21:42:48

when you say prescribed vaniquia do you mean you got it on the NHS theportlypinup

saw pimento , that cold be due to never been tested...

QOD Sat 01-Feb-14 21:57:27

I get it on prescription and have done for the 7 odd years

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Sat 01-Feb-14 21:58:40

really I was told under no circs would the nhs prescribe it?

QOD Sat 01-Feb-14 21:58:56

Blardy hell someone is selling a tube for £50 on eBay

Considering growing my beard back!

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Sat 01-Feb-14 21:59:09

ood does it work?

QOD Sat 01-Feb-14 22:00:13

The honest truth? I don't frigging know BUT I won't stop using it!

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Sat 01-Feb-14 22:02:31

well yes, I have been told to expect to pay at least 60 pounds for it from chemist.

did your doc just do it for you was there a fight ?

but do you get any hairs do you have to pluck?

QOD Sat 01-Feb-14 23:17:29

I have lots of hairs I pluck, lots and lots, I do it every other day BUT since I got the lumea, only every 4 days so that's slowing it down.

It was my the nurse practitioner at the GPs who wrote the prescription, it's been on repeat ever since.

I have a hell of a lot of medication on repeat so I doubt they even notice the 1 tube every 2 months.

No one has ever questioned it, I asked recently if there was something else I could try out an the GP said there was nothing else, but again, even when I said I didn't know if it was doing any good any more, didn't mention stopping it.

QOD Sat 01-Feb-14 23:19:45

This is interesting, seems it slows growth as opposed to stops

mm.wirral.nhs.uk/document_uploads/shared-care/eflornithineinfemalehirsutismfinal1107.pdf

foreverondiet Sun 02-Feb-14 07:33:15

If it's hormonal a change in diet would help. Look up paleo diet or even just low gi unprocessed diet if you can't do paleo. Are you overweight? Again weight loss can help.

I have ipl machine (homedics) it does work just takes a while (now 18 months for me)...

I got mine free on the NHS (I have an exemption card from tax credits) I had an appointment to discuss the hair growth and acne and this was the first thing he offered, I didn't realise it was so expensive until I read this thread. It's reminded me that I need to go back for a follow up appointment.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK Sun 02-Feb-14 10:40:59

I am staggered that some of you are getting this on nhs.

I really got the impression that it used to be given but was now a banned substance due to its cost. maybe you were lucky and got in before the ban.

I was un lucky in that all the time I have managed to pluck up courage to go to docs to talk about this, and nothing was done to help me over the years, indeed some docs have been quite nasty about it.

I only got mine about 5-6 weeks ago?

QOD Sun 02-Feb-14 20:51:25

And I'm on free prescriptions with medical exemption so don't even pay the £7 odd

Fakebook Wed 05-Feb-14 13:16:31

I received my epistick today (I ordered it after reading this thread). I've been threading for years and thought nothing could be better but I've been converted. I can't believe how effortlessly the hair comes out...and it doesn't even hurt. Really impressed.

SoleSource Wed 05-Feb-14 13:35:35

I cancelled my facial hair waxing today. The hair has come back and I now have a five o'clock shadow but it isn't enough to be waxed yet....

Covering it with make -up until my new appointment that I made today for 12pm on Tuesday.

Sick of looking like a man grin sad

JackNoneReacher Wed 05-Feb-14 14:06:37

Sole its not come back, its 'fresh' iyswim. All of the hairs we grow aren't there at once. This is why it takes several treatments of the laser to get rid. You have to catch all the hairs in the growth cycle. Only a small percentage of potential hairs are present at any one time.

SoleSource Wed 05-Feb-14 14:13:30

Oh yeah Jack thank you. I haven't thought of it that way. Can laser work for PCOS? sad

JackNoneReacher Wed 05-Feb-14 14:18:01

Yes. The clinic I went to used to offer a reduction for PCOS.

Of course it wont change the underlying problem with your ovaries but it will remove permanently reduce the hair.

I think some people have an initial course then go back every year (or similar) if they get new hair because of their condition, or just as they've got older.

SugarplumKate Wed 05-Feb-14 14:20:11

Laser treatment changed my life - I've had 2 courses both bought as groupon deals.

RainYourRottingMyDhaliaBulbs Wed 05-Feb-14 14:34:36

Sugar do you have PCOS
Jack is your clinic nationwide can we have a name?

JackNoneReacher Wed 05-Feb-14 14:41:26

sugar mine too. I'm a new person.

RainYourRottingMyDhaliaBulbs Wed 05-Feb-14 14:44:49

and the laser is just - laser not this ipl or whatever ...

riskit4abiskit Wed 05-Feb-14 15:44:58

I also received my epistick but im not sure if im doing it wrong. I need to get at the neck hairs under the jawline!

Read a lot of Amazon reviews. Spent two hours trying different methods to no avail.

Any tips anyone?

IWillKillHisXbox Wed 05-Feb-14 15:48:13

Gosh I must be one of the odd few who plucks their chin before 40 years of age. It started afew years ago but every week I see more...

SugarplumKate Wed 05-Feb-14 15:50:10

Yes, I have PCOS (and think I would have always been hairy anyway, due to pale skin and dark hair). I really feel for you, it is so demoralising. Don't forget laser treatment needs a top up after a couple of years. Maybe try a different sort of laser? It is the one and only thing that has made a difference for me xx

Fakebook Wed 05-Feb-14 16:49:27

Riskit, try laying the spring part flat under the chin and then just bending and twisting the two ends. So you'll have a half a rectangle shaped epistick, if that makes sense?

SoleSource Wed 05-Feb-14 17:15:30

Doesn't the Epistick really hurt? <wimp>

Fakebook Wed 05-Feb-14 18:01:12

I suppose if you're used to waxing and threading then it doesn't hurt that much Sole. I've only used it for a few mins to test out and I found twisting it really rapidly using the same technique as threading was less painful than doing it slowly.

SoleSource Wed 05-Feb-14 18:17:30

I shall buy one Fakebook thank you for your advice. smile

frogslegs35 Wed 05-Feb-14 20:44:18

Riskit
I push the epistick, while bent, against the growth of the hair to catch it in the coil. It doesn't seem to catch it on my neck if I do it in the direction the hair is growing.
Hope that makes sense.

Sole
I'd agree with Fake - it hurts no more than plucking really, maybe a tiny bit more but you're pulling multiple hairs instead of individual ones so that makes it better and less painful in the long run.
YY also to the quicker you ping it off the less it hurts.

I also got my epistick today and cannot get it to work sad

Fakebook Wed 05-Feb-14 21:08:25

Wheredo, if you look on YouTube they have loads of videos showing you how to work it. In a nutshell you just bend it into an upside down U shape and put it against your skin and twist both ends whilst gently pushing the coil part upwards. Where are you trying to remove hair from? Could you practise on your leg first?

I never thought of that! Thanks Fakebook smile

Omfg, the pain !!

Fakebook Wed 05-Feb-14 22:38:49

No pain, no gain!

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