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Using the word "vagina" when you mean "vulva"

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AIBU to think that people should know the difference between these parts of the body and use the correct names? It's not uncommon to hear people use the word vagina (the internal organ) when they clearly mean the vulva (the external parts). For example, "the great wall of vagina" sells a "Vagina Casting Kit", but you're going to be smearing alginate over your vulva not shoving it up your vagina! They also sell "The big coloring book of vaginas", and mention "...From the compact smooth vagina to a coiffed vagina with full lips..." when they mean vulva FFS! It grinds my gears!

Bootycall Mon 13-Jan-14 17:59:31

no life's too short to worry about crap like this.

SoupDragon Mon 13-Jan-14 18:01:08

Just be thankful they aren't calling it a frou frou.

WaffilyVersatile Mon 13-Jan-14 18:04:25

People should know the difference. I would vote for you - burn the ignorant I say

Vagina - every one knows what you mean.
Vulva- only those that have paid attention know what you mean.
Moo Moo - you need help.
Frou Frou - you must be shot

meddie Mon 13-Jan-14 18:08:59

Sugar puff is our preferref terminology. Though it rules out eating a particularly tasty breakfast cereal anymore

mistermakersgloopyglue Mon 13-Jan-14 18:09:00

This seems to be a bone of contention on mumsnet that I really struggle to get worked up about.

Everyone knows what you would mean if you said you had an itchy vagina, it really doesn't matter if you don't use the word vulva (which, by the way is the ugliest words I have ever come across, even just saying it makes me cringe!). Plus I have never heard anyone use the word vulva in real life, vagina, vag or one of the million alternatives always seems to cover it.

Fairylea Mon 13-Jan-14 18:10:26

I literally could not give a flying fuck what people call it as long as they go for regular smears and aren't embarrassed to talk to a gp or medical professional about it.

Honestly I have never heard people get so riled up about this issue anywhere but mumsnet.

GlitzAndGiggles Mon 13-Jan-14 18:11:48

Well don't let it grind your gears

procrastinatingagain Mon 13-Jan-14 18:13:53

It annoys me too op! I am very literal-minded though, so I understand that most people don't bother about it, and I keep quiet in RL.

LEMmingaround Mon 13-Jan-14 18:15:40

dunno - i call it pussy smile

HoratiaDrelincourt Mon 13-Jan-14 18:17:37

You've just taught me the difference, and I have a GCSE in Biology.

That's why I tend to use the word fanny.

stooshe Mon 13-Jan-14 18:18:40

I hate the words "vagina" and "vulva". I wasn't raised as no fool and do know what they both are, though.

fluffyraggies Mon 13-Jan-14 18:21:17

I cant get worked up about it, as such, but it does seem odd to be calling an external bit of your body the specific name for an internal part. And vagina is very specific.

I think the popularity of words like moo moo and flower, etc, is directly because there is no commonly known all encompassing word for a woman's genital area. Other than privates.

Which is what i'd say, i think, 'my privates are itchy', if my vulva was itchy. I wouldn't say my vagina was itchy if it wasn't.

Maybe the word vulva should be dragged into use. It is a real thing, and all women have one.

BrandNewIggi Mon 13-Jan-14 18:22:28

Mister aker if you say you have an itchy vagina to your doctor, when you really mean vulva, how will they know how to treat you?

SilverOldie Mon 13-Jan-14 18:22:30

I don't give a damn what anyone calls it, except for the awful 'front bottom' which I once read on a thread on here.

Bootycall Mon 13-Jan-14 18:23:24

my dm in her 80s refers to it as her 'holiday money' now that is disturbing.

me and dds ( teens) say hoobijiibee. no idea why.

vulva reminds me of Vulcan and dr Spock.

who cares anyway.

meddie Mon 13-Jan-14 18:23:24

Its a bloody ugly word though.

BrandNewIggi Mon 13-Jan-14 18:23:55

I think vagina is perhaps seen as the "important" part, the anti-penis if you like. So for that reason I prefer using vulva. Thank heavens have boys though.

ChristmasYoni Mon 13-Jan-14 18:26:39

Faloolah * smile

Bootycall Mon 13-Jan-14 18:26:47

I like front bottom, it's descriptive. grin

I hate the words "vagina" and "vulva"
I'm not keen either and would only use them if speaking to a doctor where I think it's important to be clear about what part I'm referring to. But if someone is going to use gynaecological terms at least use the right one I say.

roadwalker Mon 13-Jan-14 18:29:46

Ha, my friend (40's) didn't know what she peed out of
I am going for a bladder scan (dreading it) and she thought the camera would go up my vagina!!!
I pointed out that women do not pee out of their vaginas and it was news to her
She blames never having had children

because of MN, in this house its a Fanjo, when I'm with my sister its called a cunt.

steff13 Mon 13-Jan-14 18:32:15

I know the difference, of course, and I use the correct words when I am at the doctor or otherwise involved in a technical sort of conversation. Usually, though, I say hoo-ha.

mistermakersgloopyglue Mon 13-Jan-14 18:34:20

I think if you told a doctor you had an 'itchy Vagina' they would further question you anyway to find out exactly what the issue was. I think most doctors would suspect that you might mean vulva and make sure.

I can categorically say I have never used the term 'vulva' seriously in real life, and nor have I heard anyone else, including doctors, use it.

Mintyy Mon 13-Jan-14 18:35:38

Yes, its one of those things that I find very annoying too. Yanbu.

mistermakersgloopyglue Mon 13-Jan-14 18:35:53

holiday money

Wtf? grin

OneHolyCow Mon 13-Jan-14 18:38:15

I was on another board about dogs and people started talking about their dogs vulvas, you know, when in heat and stuff... I have to stop reading. It just seems ridiculously overmedicalised. Silly. With a gp I might be able to use the correct words with a straight face, otherwise the eyes will roll I'm afraid. I have a cunt in this house, no cutesy words. Very common, I'm sure. grin

OryxCrake Mon 13-Jan-14 18:38:39

If I needed to use correct terminology, I would say vulva. Saying vagina when you mean vulva is like saying toe when you mean foot.

lilyaldrin Mon 13-Jan-14 18:38:42

I do suspect that culturally, the emphasis is put on the vagina because that's the bit that is important to men.

I only have a DS and we say vulva, because that is the bit he is talking about. But I am pregnant and think I am going to have to introduce the idea of a vagina now as he wants to know how the baby is getting out.

lilyaldrin Mon 13-Jan-14 18:42:07

OneHoly - talking about your dog's cunt seems a bit... sexy though confused grin

ShatnersBassoon Mon 13-Jan-14 18:47:24

I don't care. It's like saying testicles when you mean scrotum. Not really worth getting annoyed about in day to day chat.

OneHolyCow Mon 13-Jan-14 18:47:47

Haha, yes true! Oh my god, what to call the dogs lady parts?!

Diamondcassis Mon 13-Jan-14 18:47:54

I'd avoid checking out "the great wall of vagina" if it's that irritating grin

iclaudius Mon 13-Jan-14 18:48:54

Totally agree op
It just sounds ignorant

steff13 Mon 13-Jan-14 18:50:24

I was on another board about dogs and people started talking about their dogs vulvas, you know, when in heat and stuff... I have to stop reading. It just seems ridiculously overmedicalised.

Our dog has what my husband and I refer to as a "faux-gina," although I guess if we're being technical, it's a faux-vulva. She's a very tall dog, and when she sits on her hind legs, you can see this flabby pouch of bare skin low on her belly that folds in in the middle and looks like a vulva.

HoneyDragon Mon 13-Jan-14 18:50:42

I have stubbed my Vulva
I have stubbed my vagina.

Ooooh yes, I see what you mean grin

Crowler Mon 13-Jan-14 18:50:55

I don't use either of these words. Round here it's pee-pee. I have no need for anything else.

HoneyDragon Mon 13-Jan-14 18:51:31

It's rather serendipitous that I have come across this thread after a vulva related thread I've not long done.

HoneyDragon Mon 13-Jan-14 18:52:21

"Crowley"

Is it also a Shag Shag?

Hedgehog80 Mon 13-Jan-14 18:52:25

Dd2 calls hers a front bottom, and has a "side bottom" too as she has to turn to the side to see her bottom!

Pleasetryan0ther Mon 13-Jan-14 18:52:41

grin at "holiday money"!

Only1scoop Mon 13-Jan-14 18:52:42

Just don't like the anatomically correct word though.... Do sore bottoms have to become 'sore anus'?

Crowler Mon 13-Jan-14 18:53:03

It could be a shag-shag on occasion, but more often not. :-)

steff13 Mon 13-Jan-14 18:54:00

My niece called it "front butt," when she was little. She came up with it on her own.

When our boys were little, we taught them vulva, because we wanted them to know the correct names for things. Plus, vagina is really hard for a little kid to say.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Everyone, boys and girls, have 'bits' here, which is a perfectly adequate catch-all term. If I was going to the GP I would be more specific. But, tbh, I was never taught the difference at school so I see no reason why I'd know the difference.

Crowler Mon 13-Jan-14 18:54:38

I like "front butt".

hootloop Mon 13-Jan-14 18:56:33

It amazes me people are bothered by this, I rarely have cause to refer to it at all. In fact I have never needed to refer to my vulva at all although once had internal itching caused by thrush and called it internal itching and pointed to my lap when I saw the doctor.

My DD says her 'wee bum' as opposed to her 'poo bum' words she gave them independently.

FortyDoorsToNowhere Mon 13-Jan-14 18:56:40

I really don't care.

Dd calls her genitals her daisy ( she thought of it herself)

But how many people know the every part of the body, without googling would you know what the uvula is.

Hedgehog80 Mon 13-Jan-14 18:56:42

My DM tried to teach us the correct names for parts of our bodies and would test us to see if we have remembered.i will never forget her frustration when I remembered it all wrong I thought the correct name for knee was pastie, penis was Venus and vagina was ventriloquist! Alli could remember was it started with a 'v' I think I was about six at the time.

Crowler Mon 13-Jan-14 18:57:50

My DD says her 'wee bum' as opposed to her 'poo bum' words she gave them independently.

So many alternatives to my boring old pee-pee. Thanks everyone. I love wee bum.

BananaNotPeelingWell Mon 13-Jan-14 18:59:37

I feel a resounding biscuit on this. Only on mn have I seen this as an issue, never in rl. I cant imagine any doctor is going to make you do 100 lines 'I must not confuse my vagina and vulva' hmm It's like going to the doctor and complaining of a sore arm when to be specific you might mean your elbow. I think I have more of a problem with 'the big coloring book of vaginas'.confused

Mintyy Mon 13-Jan-14 18:59:47

Oh they're just not getting it op, are they?

Its not about what you call it, its getting it right if you are going to use the anatomical terminology.

FortyDoorsToNowhere Mon 13-Jan-14 19:03:44

I'm curious on how the op knows of vulva casting kit smile

It's simply the company using vagina as that what it's commonly know as. The company is a business and can't really be precious of being too PC.

kilmuir Mon 13-Jan-14 19:06:58

Why not use the right word, we need some education

OneHolyCow Mon 13-Jan-14 19:17:25

'We' don't need no education!
hmm

MeepMeepVrooooom Mon 13-Jan-14 19:20:56

There was a thread exactly the same as this a couple of weeks ago. Wasn't aware people were so concerned with what others call there lady parts.

It is mine so I will call it whatever I want.

What exactly were you looking for when you stumbled across a "vagina casting kit" and "The big colouring book of vaginas"?

natwebb79 Mon 13-Jan-14 19:29:32

I think we do all 'get it' mintyy. We just couldn't give a shiny shite. grin

Crowler Mon 13-Jan-14 19:30:10

I think we do all 'get it' mintyy. We just couldn't give a shiny shite.

That's right.

Only1scoop Mon 13-Jan-14 19:32:32

....it's not a shiny shite....it's a shiny excreta if you please confused

BananaNotPeelingWell Mon 13-Jan-14 19:34:45

grin

MeepMeepVrooooom Mon 13-Jan-14 19:39:00

I think we all get it Minty, we just don't give a rat's ass buttocks

WitchWay Mon 13-Jan-14 19:39:05

The uvula is the clacker

Mintyy Mon 13-Jan-14 19:43:00

How odd to post on a thread you don't give a shiney shite about.

Clawdy Mon 13-Jan-14 19:43:09

Crotch is the best word. Sensible and pretty accurate.

Fairylea Mon 13-Jan-14 19:43:20

I get it too. I couldn't give a mouses vulva either.

(Do they even HAVE vulvas?!)

pigletmania Mon 13-Jan-14 19:44:12

Oh dear oh dear we can't have that can we!

PrimalLass Mon 13-Jan-14 19:44:17

Not this again ...

steff13 Mon 13-Jan-14 19:44:54

The uvula is the clacker

NO, it's the hangy-down thing at the back of your throat. ;)

gimcrack Mon 13-Jan-14 19:46:00

Mulvas, surely, Fairylea

bellablot Mon 13-Jan-14 19:50:17

Boring! Why didn't you just search this topic instead of posting new and why the hell are people replying with the same answers!? Get a grip mumsnet and change the fecking subject!

Only1scoop Mon 13-Jan-14 19:51:09

Gimcrack grin

NewtRipley Mon 13-Jan-14 19:56:28

I agree with the OP and Mintty

It's like a bloke telling a doctor his testicles hurt when he mean his penis.

NewtRipley Mon 13-Jan-14 19:57:22

This is the first time I have posted on this topic and I'm not sure why people who care so little are getting annoyed. I'm not annoyed, just interested

Fairylea Mon 13-Jan-14 20:02:29

smile @ "mulvas"

mrscog Mon 13-Jan-14 20:03:36

YANBU - and it's not like saying 'sore arm but specifically mean sore elbow' - in fact, that's the opposite, it's like saying you have a sore throat when you actually have a sore lip.

pobblebop Mon 13-Jan-14 20:04:25

What about calling it our "cute under navel tunnel" or something else for short?

"Oh they're just not getting it op, are they? Its not about what you call it, its getting it right if you are going to use the anatomical terminology"
^This. I don't use those phrases in everyday use (I have a "fanjo" FWIW) but I've often read (on MN) people saying "vagina" when they are clearly talking about their "vulva". It's just wrong and a different part of their anatomyconfused. I don't care what nic-names people call theirs, I just wonder why so many people use the wrong gynae word entirely when they are using gynae names.

"What exactly were you looking for when you stumbled across a "vagina casting kit" and "The big colouring book of vaginas"?"
I was curious and had a look on "The Great Wall of Vagina" website. I had no idea they had a shop! grin I'm rather interested in body casting anyway and wouldn't mind that kit wink I just have no intention of making a cast of my "vagina"hmm

I might buy myself the Cunt Coloring Book though because it would be more interesting than colouring vaginas!

pigletmania Mon 13-Jan-14 20:05:53

Ooh wee bum I love it0. Hey it's wee bum everybody, that will give the pearl clutches something to faint over grin

pobblebop Mon 13-Jan-14 20:15:38

On a more serious note I am with you. I'm fed up with people mislabelling my lady bits. Don't we teach biology in schools any more or has it been replaced by something PC but useless?

A used copy of the Cunt Colouring Book is £338. Why?

ApplesinmyPocket Mon 13-Jan-14 22:54:13

"cute under navel tunnel" grin V good, pobblebop

Tweasels Mon 13-Jan-14 23:10:13

The words vulva and labia make me smirk. I've only ever seen them used in these horrific erotic novels that me and my friend found in her mum's cupboard when we were about 15.

"Susan could feel her vulva getting warm at the thought of Derek parting her labia and sliding his member into her velvet pouch"

For that reason, I cannot possibly use those words.

Fanny here, the word Vulva doesn't trip of my tongue very easily. It's not a warm word, fanny is warm.

StrawberryMoose Mon 13-Jan-14 23:17:59

The only time I have heard the word vulva used in rl is when my lovely gran was trying to tell us about the new car my auntie had bought.

'Oh you know, it's one of those estate cars, a Vulva I think.'

Cue much sniggering. smile

LabradorMama Mon 13-Jan-14 23:18:16

I call mine Margaret but after the previous post I may rename it My Velvet Pouch.

MomsStiffler Mon 13-Jan-14 23:22:57

Whooooooooo Caresssssssssssss ??????????

Bootycall Mon 13-Jan-14 23:32:12

right I am going to ask my dm tomorrow why she says 'holiday money' for her hoo har.

i hope childhood holiday memories won't be ruined. grin

Tweasels Mon 13-Jan-14 23:33:57

At work, I once accompanied a young woman to see her GP to help her get support for a certain issue. Got the referral we needed but when the Dr asked if there was anything else he could help with, she asked if he could give her any cream for her itchy "Tom n Danny". Cue blank face from GP for her to make clear "You know...me fanny...me Tom n Danny grin

trufflesnuffler Mon 13-Jan-14 23:42:27

it's called Pingu in our house

BillyBanter Mon 13-Jan-14 23:43:25

Velvet pouch has reminded me of otter's pocket which I rather like.

Perhaps we should just say inner cunt and outer cunt.

BillyBanter Mon 13-Jan-14 23:44:07

it's called Pingu in our house

What do you call Pingu in your house?

trufflesnuffler Mon 13-Jan-14 23:46:28

All of it... we don't seperate it into different birds. It's all Pingu.

'Wipe your Pingu' to the kids

'Eat my Pingu' to the husband.

peggyundercrackers Mon 13-Jan-14 23:58:23

Lol @ eat my pingu... If I said that he would think I've lost the plot!

peggyundercrackers Tue 14-Jan-14 00:02:22

Words I've heard it called in our family include foof, flangina, cookie, la la, hoof & fanny.

Mine's called my flat hamster. Though understandably we haven't taught that to DD.

RhondaJean Tue 14-Jan-14 00:36:31

Bootycall! You mean mr Spock, dr Spock is the Childcare expert from the 80s.

<fumes>

angry

<takes pedantic on the pedantic thread to a new level>

SoupDragon Tue 14-Jan-14 08:10:28

"You know...me fanny...me Tom n Danny"

Oh dear - I know someone with sons called Tom and Daniel...

NewtRipley Tue 14-Jan-14 08:16:14

I think there's a point here about squueamishness about female sexuality.

Of course we don't have to use anatomical terminology - men don't use the term penis all the time. Of course you can call yours

But it's a bit sad that some people don't even know those "secret inside parts" even have a name.

NewtRipley Tue 14-Jan-14 08:16:46

Sorry, missed out a bit :

"Of course you can call yours whatever you want"

Ledkr Tue 14-Jan-14 08:17:39

You mean you don't go to the drs and just lower your eyes whilst whispering "downstairs, you know dr"

Are you lot mad? grin

SoupDragon Tue 14-Jan-14 08:57:31

But it's a bit sad that some people don't even know those "secret inside parts" even have a name.

You're wrong though - it's the visible outside parts that people don't know have a specific name. People are using vagina to describe inside and out as one entity.

TimeToPassGo Tue 14-Jan-14 11:03:13

I have decided henceforth that I shall use the Scrubs inspired term 'bejingo'. It has a pleasingly musical sound.

TimeToPassGo Tue 14-Jan-14 11:05:06

Velvet pouch? I think that would be more of an aspirational term for my bejingo.

Crowler Tue 14-Jan-14 11:18:04

You mean you don't go to the drs and just lower your eyes whilst whispering "downstairs, you know dr"

Oh my god, this is so funny, thank you.

notso Tue 14-Jan-14 12:21:39

I just don't think there is a massive need to be so anatomically correct, even at the Doctors.
I've never heard of anyone who's gone to the Doctor with itching 'down below' and come away with athletes foot cream.
I don't know the names of loads of body parts, before Wayne Rooney we all just had broken toes!

MoominIsGoingToBeAMumWaitWHAT Tue 14-Jan-14 12:28:36

It's a cave of wonders. Accessed by crossing the magic carpet.

I like my bits to be Disneyfied.

StarShank Tue 14-Jan-14 12:52:40

I like VEJINGO, like scrubs but with more vag.

NewtRipley Tue 14-Jan-14 16:31:29

Soup, yes,, you're right. The point i was trying to make (badly) is that different bits have different names and woman don't even know what different bits of their genitalia are called.

Birdinthebush Tue 14-Jan-14 22:50:10

Reminds me when a friends DC was looking at his neighbours new car and said he had a shiny new vulva

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